While the move to reactivate the KL-Singapore high-speed rail (HSR) continues, another such project might overtake its development and become the first HSR route in the country, Sin Chew Daily reports.
Plans are apparently underway to implement an Ipoh-Kuala Lumpur HSR, with the project awaiting federal government finalisation, according to Perak infrastructure, energy, water and public transportation committee chairman Datuk Seri Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin.
He told the news publication that the state government had received a proposal from a conglomerate in China about the rail project, which would cut down travelling time between the two cities to around 40 minutes instead of the two-and-a-half to three hours presently by road travel.
Trains on the HSR route will be capable of running up to 280 km/h, double that of the present KTM electric train service (ETS), which runs trains at speeds of up to 140 km/h and takes two hours and 38 minutes to get from Ipoh to KL.
However, the project – which will be privately funded – will need to secure approval from the transport ministry and consent from the Selangor government before a feasibility study can be conducted, given that the rail line will have to travel through Selangor to KL. Nizar said he is hopeful that the project can start within the tenure of the unity government, with completion slated for 2028.
In recent times, rail service has become the major mode of public transport in Perak, with the Ipoh train station having emerged as the second busiest in the country after KL Sentral. According to the news report, more than 2.14 million passengers travelled by rail to Perak last year.
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The KL Sentral to KLIA1-express takes 28 minutes roughly 60km distance (travels at speed 160km/hr) while KL Sentral to Ipoh is 210km in 40 minutes so that is like 3.5x distance for roughly the same time which means the train will travel up to 500km/hr YES give me that fantasy.
First I need to fact check you on this.
1) KLIA Express non-stop service 28 minutes for 57km rail journey in max 160km/h, mostly 152-155km/h in standard gauge railway.
2) KL Sentral to Ipoh by KTM ETS service with 207km , max 140km/h on meter gauge railway roughly 2 hours 34 minutes for Platinum service (which is the fastest).
3）Proposal for KL-Ipoh HSR proposed speed is 280km/h with 40 minutes journey, so the dedicated track according to V = S/T formula , it needs to be at least 187km.
So , where is the 500km/h calculation comes from ?
Unless you talking about using Maglev.
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tu la… bob tak baca buku. matematik pun koyak.
lagi lagi cakap ayam.
mathematic bodoh. By average high speed rail travel 300km/h +/-. Take Indon’s Bandung HSR to compare with operating speed of 350km/h, thats 5.8km coverage per minute, given 40mins can cover 232km, KL – Ipoh dah sampai la bodoh
You sound stupid bro. Lol. You think train that is capable of max speed travels at that max speed at al the way and come to a sudden stop at each station? Hahahahaha. You think no in between stations before final destinations? hahahahahah. Go back to school la. Your IQ too low. Orang bodoh always think they are smart. Hahahahaha
HSR is way more energy efficient plus time efficient compares to aviation transportation and not subjected to highway congestion or traffic jam.
Semenanjung Malaysia nie…bukan negara besar sangat nak ada banyak sangat rail transport dari KL ke Ipoh…. membazir tanah sahaja ….
Projects have to be created to fulfil the developers’ greed.
The developers within a 5 km radius of every station must contribute towards the station’s cost and the cost of acquiring land from the kampung folks along the line. This is because they will benefit from the HSR project and may use it to increase their prices.
Masalahnye demand ade. Cube tgk kat China negara sebesar alam tu, buat track panjang2 sekali train kosong je memanjang. Sebenarnye negara besar la x ptt buat HSR. HSR ni patutnye untuk short distance, kalau long distance mmg akan heavy losses kaw2. Tengok la train ke Ipoh asyik2 hbs je. Kalau x nk buat airport at least bg la kami HSR. Ipoh dah berdekad susah nk naik sbb investors rase ralat nk invest kat Ipoh. Bayangkan kalau u investor luar negara. Lets say nk dtg Ipoh nk tgk site atau nk dtg meeting. First kena naik flight dulu ke KL, lps tu naik KLIA express turun KL sentral lps tu naik lagi ETS dekat 3 jam ke Ipoh. Foreign investor mane je nk invest kat Ipoh? So hari tu MB dah propose airport nampak gayanye mcm Ministry of Transport x nak bagi. Kalau x nak bg airport pun at least bagi la HSR ni. Not fair dah berdekad government neglect Perak punya infrastructure.
Dulu PLUS pun orang kata membazir selepas 30 tahun, kalau tak ada ko pun rasa nak mati lalu jalan lama. Porahh… otak penuh ulat
In my opinion, better propose for all HSR to be able to transport cars and bikes, just like the rail linking from the UK to France. People still want to be able to roam around by using their vehicles, hence the reason behind why people travel on highways. Imagine if a family of 6, how on earth are they going to move around freely in Ipoh? Use grab when staying there? I believe people would love to have this kind of concept, less risk on the highway.
You are right. Closest we can have now is a car ferry from Port Klang to Penang Island.
But tickets from KL to Ipoh is always sold out. I just went back to Ipoh last week the weekend ticket are already sold out 4 days prior to my booking. I have to take a leave on Friday and went back Thursday night and even then when I booked it the ticket is already 90% booked. When u said people still prefers to use highways. Maybe you are right but at the same time there is no need to bring bicycles to Ipoh since demand is already overwhelming without bicycles. Ipoh doesnt have enough cycle lanes to begin with so how do u expect people to move around Ipoh using bicycle.
“Imagine if a family of 6, how on earth are they going to move around freely in Ipoh”
And how do u expect a family of 6 to roam around Ipoh freely using bicycle? It is quite a silly suggestion to be honest lol.
I think it would be much better if the Ipoh State/Local government to improve and provide their public transportation there . e.g more buses
Like free GO bus in KL
In order to have KL-IPOH HSR function properly , first , Ipoh need to revolutionize their local public transportation system and then integrate with HSR. As it is very high popularity among travellers for KL-IPOH route, technically need a new dedicated track for this. Most importantly, EIA report need to evaluate whether it is good enough to build nearby Ipoh KTM station for komuter and ETS service for regional travel, as well as link with local bus / taxi transportation. It can be serve as Phase 1 of the HSR northern line before Phase 2 Ipoh-Padang Besar-Bangkok Line. This is very long term plan for high speed travel. Perak state government shows highly supportive statement on such project and we will see how it goes.
Dulu Najib sudah plan, tapi dia kasi buang. Tiba2 mau bina semula. tapi kalini privately-fund plak. jangan kerajaan letak klausa konsesi macam PLUS dan highway2 lain sudahla ya.. bila rugi je, kerajaan kena bayar pada comp private tu. mana boleh! Najib ada, dia beli PLUS guna Khazanah dan EPF. senang cerita
Such a waste. We knew damn well our country actually doesn’t need HSR to begin with. These are all planned by china to conquer Malaysia in one final day. China doesn’t have the luxury of their own raw materials and oil. So they are willing to invest in these kind of things because they know we and other neighbouring countries can’t pay them back except Singapore which is the west ‘hub’.
Yes correct with china The Belt and Road Initiative (BRI)
You think all the people in our government are stupid, not educated and don’t know how to calculate. You sound like a US “debt trap” propagandist?
Time to bring in the Shinkansen.
SHINKANSEN slower than commercially operated HSR actually
Always new contract to build this, build that. Land acquisition, cutting down forest, demolishing limestone hills…so wasteful. The technology exists to run higher speed trains on our existing tracks…like the x2000 from Sweden – purpose built to run on existing curvy rail network. Our country’s transportation has been run by a revolving bunch of halfwits for more than half a century. They could have upgraded to standard gauge when the double-tracking started all those years ago. But no, kept the metre gauge and painted us into a corner with upgrade options. Public accountability is still a shamefully absent concept in our politicians.
What’s the point? The reason going to Singapore in the first place is to attract Singaporean companies to set up base in KL to take advantage of our cheap labor. There’s nothing in Ipoh that KL doesn’t have and vice versa. It makes much more sense to build hsr to Penang but both makes less sense than building hsr to Singapore.
To bring development to Ipoh and in general Perak. Make a lot of sense to people from Ipoh.
To develop Perak, that’s the point. It will boost investment and tourism from local and foreign. There is lower cost local labour force in Perak, unlike KL mostly dependent on Bangla. This will help poverty elevation. It’s a project initiated by Perak goverment and it is privately funded, not using your money. If Penang can get privately funded hsr project, no one is stopping them. What is your issue?
Why not penang to Kl? Make more sense
Confirmed Can, but Phase by Phase
Just like how we have existing trains has reached penang
Unless u thinking bypass Perak can go cheaper with your sense.
Yes, make more sense but award it to Japanese rail contractor. Japan is our Asian sifu of railway lines development and management.
We already have a good hiway system connecting the 2 cities making travels convenient. I would rather channel the funds to totally solve our water woes plaguing us year in and out. Which other major city in the world has water cuts on the regular? The weather is getting more erratic n with rising temperatures, our water supply may suffer even more. Water disruptions disrupt lives.
Instead of spending so much on new track (std gauge) and rolling stock for HSR, why not just get more trainsets and run on the existing meter gauge tracks and increase frequency of service. In the short term, that works better for KTM. If the HSR is built, it’ll cannibalize KTMB’s ridership.
IF it is an extension of the KL-SG HSR and extend it all the way to Butterworth. I think this corridor can support HSR. But then, KTMB passenger service will die. Unless they run a regional train kind of service with more stops and slower speed.
Your point about adding more rolling stock for KTMB is possible, the fact is that ETS is earning more than Komuter service. However, given the biggest problem right now is that the fund to allocate for extra ETS is under way for extra 10 set, but mainly place for southern line and some for the full line. Also , we need to look at another problem, Ipoh is second most popular station after KL Sentral, KTMB / RAC unable to spend more on Komuter service , ETS Service also comes to a bottleneck , hence why Perak state government welcomed for a “private-funding initiative” of HSR project. Yes, adding on more rolling stock will significantly help KTMB on operate such route , but the proposed HSR is just given another option for people using high speed travel, While ETS / Komuter only serve as limited express / regional travel. Perak state government knows clearly on this, if KTMB doesn’t do anything about this, given how much rolling stock / maintenance , if service doesn’t improve, there are always another option, such as bus / HSR / taxi or e.t.c. The bigger picture is you can have an option of travel slowly to enjoy the scenery , but there is another option for those who don’t want waste their travel time just to get to a destination while losing half day but unable to enjoy the rest of the destination ,which losing quite an amount of time, hence high speed travel is born this way.
I would like to have at least 3 lanes highway from Slim River till Penang. No need HSR.. environmental damage.
Weird suggestion! 3 lanes highway means 2 lanes up and single lane down or vice versa? Ppl build 4 lanes or 6 lanes or 8 lanes never odd number lanes of highway!
The guys managing the highways are sleeping. Early 2000 already took 8-10 hours to return from penang. Just the juru toll alone took a long time. Until now cannot solve the problem. 20 years later it’s worse as after juru toll, you are stuck in batu kawan merging into highway jam. That is probably why anwar scared to contest his own kampung during election as he knows he will lose.the people in prai knows he dunno what is happening on the ground.
In johore, the sultan had to request for highway widening. The politicians and local councillors and highway managers all sleeping.
make it 4, please.
40 minutes Ipoh kl is even faster than my work travel klang kl that takes about 1 hour.
Back to demand this days. How come gov promote ppl to use public transport such as speed train if operating always delay?
500 kph is too high for hsr in Malaysia cannot compete with Japan or France which had better facility
Absolutely a No! Not with any mainland China CCP-connected conglomerate entity. Whatever the various comments here Msia should bear in mind what has happened in some African nations when China gets given mega infrastructure development projects – they are saddled with heavy debts. Sri Langka seaport an eg. Indonesia’s Jokowi probably regretting now with its Jkt-Bandung hsr. More than 60% of China’s construction projects suffered from ‘tofu dreg’ syndrome. Unoccupied high-rise bldgs forced to be demolished due to shody corner-cutting scandals. They involved well-known developers. Just compare the MRT route frm Putra Heights to BJ stadium awarded to a China-based co. The most basic cheap looking rail coach interior deprived of any comfort seating. Try it. A China-construct Ipoh-Kl hsr? FGS! Think then rethink 1000x!
Here we go, a Sleepy Joe propagandist
Finally something promising. Efficient connectivity is the KEY for development and economic success. We badly need HSR or bullet train. Every festive season road is jammed and takes hours to move a few km. Malu siot. But please can we get a faster train than 280km/H?? Indonesia already using 350km/H train. Why use slower onnes? Don’t only conect to Ipoh la. Connect all states please. All can maju together
Purpose of HSR daily commute btwn KUL/IPH/TGG/ KBR vv to resolve road congestion + housing + B40 issues in Klang valley. Like shinkasen in Japan , folks commute from homes in other prefectures to work in TYO.
Build HSR for daily commute btwn KUL/IPH/TGG/KBR vv to resolve road congestions/ housing + B40 issues in Klang valley. Like shinkasen in Japan, folks commute from homes in other prefectures to work in TYO
Malaysia is going to bankrupt, why spend money on HSR? 2 hrs drive is just nice.
You think all the people in our government are stupid, not educated and don’t know how to calculate. You sound like a US “debt trap” propagandist?