Unlike most other car manufacturers who usually procure hybrid and electric drive components from third party manufacturers (Tesla is one company that acts as a supplier), Volkswagen intends to produce all of its hybrid components excluding battery cells on its own, so that the company can master the technology and increase chances for a competitive edge.
A concept hybrid Volkswagen was unveiled earlier this year based on the Mark 5 Volkswagen Golf. It featured a combination of an electric motor backed by lithium ion batteries as the main method of propulsion, assisted by either a TSI petrol engine or a TDI diesel engine whenever needed. According to Volkswagen, a 100km test journey from Potsdam to Berlin took only 8kWh of electricity and 2.5 litres of fuel.
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Yeah… thats how every other car manufacturers should try to go for…. They have to come up with their very own ideas in every aspects…. Volkswagen is now actually growing quite fast in the automobil industry without people realising it they are doin so… Bravo Volkswagen !!!!
ya.. more and more the hybrid car or alternative instead of petrol…
More and more Hybrid/ Electric car, probably I’ll get free petrol when I finish financing my car?^^
Isnt that sometimes ago VW wanted to partnership with Proton? oops..
Can someone give me a good business decision that those GLC made that bring value to the country and the public welfare? btw, how many GLC is making money? without the funding from Petronas, EPF?
Proton should change name to Potong (all the rakyat’s head for money), they just dont have a view of the future. I would rather they be so agressive to new area like Tesla (I think anytime Proton is richer than Tesla), and speaking of that, Lotus does supply some platform to other electric car company when reading from the net, and termedas Britain’s Lotus.
pippen said,
November 2, 2008 @ 4:21 pm
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as some user used to like to point out that i always point out mistakes in others postings.. and here i am again doing it..
btw, how many GLC is making money?
well.. proton is making money for one based on facts of course. (http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/10/11/business/2251152&sec=business)
I would rather they be so agressive to new area like Tesla (I think anytime Proton is richer than Tesla),
>Lotus supplies platforms and expertise to Tesla > Lotus owned by Proton.
Xx- Ferrari -xX said,
November 2, 2008 @ 11:14 am
Yeah… thats how every other car manufacturers should try to go for…. They have to come up with their very own ideas in every aspects…. Volkswagen is now actually growing quite fast in the automobil industry without people realising it they are doin so… Bravo Volkswagen !!!!
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err.. actually, VW is already a mega automotive company already, and has been for many many years. i dont think they actually qualify as a “growing” company. they have under their belts, skoda, seat, lambo, audi under the PAG group. if that aint big enough, i dont know what.. and even more surprising, Porsche owns the majority stake in VW. when you’re that big, and with so much money.. you can afford to do many things that a smaller company cant.
interestingly enough, if anyone here remembers the claim by nissan (tan chong) on the fuel consumption of the livina 1.8A during a contest they held…56.5831km/l, which roughly means, for a 100km journey, it will better this VW hybrid by a huge margin. The VW hybrid did 100km using 2.5 litres of fuel, and the livina will do 140km with the same amount of fuel.
the fact for Potong making not a lose in the report (u really think they are doing good from the news?):
1. unopen and unfair competition in the market for 20years of import car rules that force normal people like us to have no choice.
2. please look into the report that consist a so-called R&D fund to bail out…with still doing another model of SAGA, what R&D i wonder? Savvy again??
In a few years, I am quite sure that VW will become the outright leader in hybrid technology. No other car company, not even Toyota has the engineering depth that VW has. Honda may come close but it’s small compared with the VW behemoth. As for the Livina achieving those FC figures, those were achieved using almost every trick in the hyper-milling book as since it was a competition. Car manufacturers when posting FC numbers will be reporting those using normal driving techniques.
i believe tehy can do it, they got the resources, they will get the expertise.
then commercialise it. yeah, cheap electric vehicles for all.
Proton only owns Lotus..but didnt learn anything from lotus i think..only know copy paste..
chun, on another thought, how about a hybrid drive mounted on grand livina that will automatically mimic the “every trick in the hyper-milling book”? Just a thought, like rather then use human to push it our from carpark, we use electric. Think about it.
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What VW wants to master, Proton wants to buy, sigh.
pippen said,
November 2, 2008 @ 5:57 pm
the fact for Potong making not a lose in the report (u really think they are doing good from the news?):
1. unopen and unfair competition in the market for 20years of import car rules that force normal people like us to have no choice.
2. please look into the report that consist a so-called R&D fund to bail out…with still doing another model of SAGA, what R&D i wonder? Savvy again??
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i’ve only stated the facts, and you are looking at things simplistically. if you actually know proton’s recent history, you will know that your point 1 is not so right anymore. likewise point 2 if you actually knew what an R&D grant is(not fund).
1.there are many choices on the market today(korean, perodua, chinese, vios J, city). proton at 30+% marketshare shows they are no longer like how they use to be.. 70% in the past. because of all this liberalisation in the last 3-4 years.. they not only lost 40% of marketshare(which is a HUGE number in any biz) they had hundreds of millions of losses.
by changin management in 2006, having a totally different product strategy, and now focusing on the export market.. they have paid off all debts, and made money now. people are buying cars again from them, quality although not fantastic has also improved (hopefully continue to improve). likewise, they are exporting more than they ever did before. these are significant changes.. more so than what proton did in the last 5 years before 2006.
2. the R&D grant is available to all automotive companies in malaysia(honda, toyota, perodua..etc. included), as long as you meet a certain criteria in R&D investment in Malaysia. Proton spend over RM600 million on R&d in that period, and got a RM190+ million grant from the govt. why do they need a bailout when they spend 600mil? grants are also given out by any govt in the world to boost certain industries of sectors.. in malaysia, biotech, IT etc.. all get grants.
but all that changed anyways, as their previous quarter profit did not include any grants.. only profit from car sales.
so please look into the facts properly before you ask others.
well, with all the investment and all proton produces are those lousy overpriced cars.
If Proton so hebat, just fight fair & square. No need protection right? Say so much for what… Later sure ppl say Potong very new so need protection, since you can buy Lotus which is quite some time & famous in UK dont tell me you cant do better then others which dont have any backing from the G?
Anyway VW is a very advance company & i support what their doing. Even cutting emission especially the blue motion diesel received a lot of good comments (even civic hybrid loss to it if you read some autocar report a few months back). If VW really master it, those other manufacturer will have to cut price and consumer will happy haha…
Problem is you still need fossil fuel to generate the power, so not really solving the problem
anybody heard about the car that runs on air, it was on Yahoo! yesterday
1. where did the 600million goes to? savvy? saga v2? new MPV? i think other company can come out something better. It all mis-managed fund since like or dont like, all nation were ‘force to buy’ without much choice. I can buy a honda civic with waja price! now u want to drive a civic or waja? then the logic is i will buy waja with lower price, then can use the money in somewhere else so other industries is benefits, and the economy is better. 7 years loan in a car is a joke in other countries! and thats for some people making $$ out of us
2. if so good in business, why tortue the rakyat by selling higher price even than UK? thats a big joke.
3. if anyone still remember many years ago we need to buy a 2nd hand Potong with even a higher price than new car and need to pay undertable money era…thats sick history.
Discover Channels has a “FutureCar” episode talks about all the electic, air, hydrogen, biofuel car.
i find it impossible that a car like the livina can do better than 2.5litre/100km. unless u were rolling down a hill.
btw….proton and export market dont rhyme. thats just a load of bull to trick u all that they are doing pretty well. just because they state so and so in the newspapers doesnt mean that it is an actual fact. all they can do is state that they shipped it to some third or fourth world country of which there is no way for the public to verify it was actually shipped and sold to the public in those countries. and you could problably guess that most citizens in these countries cant even afford to buy cars. even if they could do you think they would buy a proton.
VW dont need anything fancy. just price thier golfs closer to the civic and corolla. if they can…