Following the announcement that Proton will be building a new range of engines to replace its current crop, the national carmaker has provided some details of its new powerplants, which is a joint effort with UK-based engine developer, Ricardo.
Firstly, a short recap on the list of all the petrol engines that Proton is currently developing:
- 1.0 litre three-cylinder VVT (Variable Valve Timing)
- 1.2 litre three-cylinder VVT
- 1.3 litre four-cylinder GDI (gasoline direct injection)
- 1.3 litre four-cylinder TGDI (turbocharged gasoline direct injection)
- 1.5 litre four-cylinder GDI
- 1.5 litre four-cylinder TGDI
As you can tell, that is quite a number of engines that will go into Protons of the future, and its announcement marks a historic event in Proton’s path to achieve the next level of competitiveness.
According to Abdul Rashid Musa, Proton’s chief technical officer, over 200 engineers were involved in the new engines’ development, including those from Proton themselves. He said that the engines will also undergo a comprehensive round of testing at Lotus and Ricardo, vendors for calibration and local Proton engineers.
Collectively, the engines will be tested at 25 dyno test centres, encompassing around 250,000 hours of testing. That roughly translates to 4.8 million km on the road, to ensure the engine are stressed to their limits. The engine development project has a capital expenditure amounting to RM600 million alone.
From the six engines presented, the 1.5 litre TGDI is stated as the most powerful of the bunch, with around 180 hp and 250 Nm on tap. No numbers were provided for the other engines presented, although they are claimed to offer 20% higher performance compared to previous Proton engines.
Alternatively, we were told that the engines require at least RON95 fuel to function, and will be paired with a new torque converter CVT transmission as well. Proton say that the new transmission (said to be from Jatco) will be more efficient than what is currently offered, and they are in the final process of packaging the powertrains for future models.
Both the GDI and TGDI engines are said to have a modular architecture, consisting of a cast iron block. “The engines have a modular design, so we can chop off one cylinder (from the four-cylinder engine) to make it a three-cylinder engine,” said Proton CEO Datuk Abdul Harith Abdullah.
Proton is currently in the midst of optimising its current facilities, so the new engine family will stick to a cast iron block. “When the time is right, we will introduce a new aluminium block, which will reduce the weight of the engine,” said Proton vehicle development and engineering head, Amrizal Abd Majid.
“As it is, the new family already utilises aluminium cylinder heads,” he added. Harith chimed in, saying that it is normal to pay a little bit more for new tech, but Proton will continue to manage its costs to stay very competitive in the market.
The Euro 6C-compliant engines are said to feature a belt-driven starter generator, start/stop functionality, integrated exhaust manifold, Dual VVT and a timing chain. They’re said to have longer service intervals too. On the efficiency side of things, Proton is targeting a CO2 emissions level below 99 g/km. For the 1.0 litre, a fuel economy rating of 5.0 litres/100 km was cited, with 4.0 litres/100 km on the cards with some add-on tech.
This is certainly an exciting time for Proton as its upcoming engine line-up will find its way into its new models. However, don’t expect that to happen anytime soon, as the engine’s development will only make its way to Malaysia in September 2016. Therefore, end application of the new engines are said to include end-2017 Proton models.
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I believe it when i see it… But the future looks bright for a new satria with 180hp
Hope they introduce new Putra with 180hp as well.
Kesian Tun… bosan… kena duduk dengar semua ni .. umur 80+++
he’s a man who love knowledges..not a typical Malaysian politician..have some respect to him bro
Year 2016 new version of Sendiri Cakap Sendiri Syok. Just another fuel hunger, no power and break down often engines. Pity the people who kena conned in the future. Proton is most reliable when the part isn’t from proton. Wira’s Mitsubishi engine is the best history.
Bright future, good move, let’s hope, move forward.
Macai too lazy typing new phrase again.
I want to see Iriz with 180 hp and 6 MT.
180hp then use crap CVT gearbox on it
*breathing intensifies*
Greatest discovery since man landed on the Moon.
Greatest way to show own stupidity
Congratulations, Good for Proton, hope with this new engine, the car can be market to a country with strict regulation. I also hope the exterior design language could change to consumer satisfaction in the future. One word for Proton “Quality” meet this and u could go far.
Still hoping for Proton.
Please proton, don’t left out good ol’ manual transmission too.
Getrag 6-speed manual hnnngh
As for auto, Jatco should provide satisfying experience for normal people
Finally Proton addresses the elephant in the room, iriz’s single archille’s heel : a competent powertrain that’s fuel efficient and easy to utilize.
Cuz campro was too rev happy, n punch cvt too pundee to use, only manual suits it n for people that wanna drive quick, to hell with fc.
This time around, the GDI/TGDI + Jatco cvt/getrag 6sp mt have the potential of a competent powertrain against the likes of Conti’s latest n finest.
You think people will “shut up and give you their hard earned money” on your junk?
Sooo..where proton basher now..
They will come out in full force when Proton’s sales drop further in 2016.
where is the video for that PC. can i have a look???
why is the 1.0 and 1.2 litre engines not turbocharged? Is it a mistake or is it meant for a kancil?
I am more concerned on the 3 cylinder part rather than turbocharged or not. At least a 4 cylinder for a proper car. 3 cylinder engine characteristics just vibrates too much.
Proton may use asymmetric flywheel just like Ford’s 3-cyl Ecoboost. Runs as smooth as a 4-cyl.
New engines more shit. Please potong for the sake of 32 million people just close shop.
Can I ask ur boss to oso kolos shop due to massive losses caused by his unproductive worker not doing his job but trolling PT?
Shut ur mouth John …
Jeles lah tu….
Dear Proton,
why dont you install some of the new engine into some of the Protons i have at homw.I promise to do the test for you foc,but u have to bear the fuel cost lh.Can ar?
I dont like proton…
But for this time i want to say is well done proton.
Keep improve and move forward.
Well done, keep hoping, move forward. Lazy macai recycling same phrase again.
Wonder what happened to proton hybrid engine . remember in 2012 proton develop hybrid using govement fund rm100 million. that was a good time
U R right. The range extender electric vehicle saga and Exora (REEV).
It won awards in the london-brighton race.
Ever wonder why not produced? Too much saving on petrol.
Petronas and government not ready to loose revenue.
The concept is similar to Vauxhall ampera and Chevrolet volt, better savings than Prius.
money gone to Frazer nash and flushed in toilet….
Syabas Proton! Iron block at first also no problem. Berat tak apa, its better for managing temperature and damping vibrations. No mean feat developing own engine.and something Malaysia has to be proud of. Building own cars, not a just sweatshop of foreign auto companies.
Some pipu say 300,000 monkeys are better than 1,000 engineers
Some John said.. shut ur mouth better then talk kok like chicken
Tu hah. Jeles lah tu….
Wonder where Proton get big funds so suddenly? Is it from bank loans, sukuk bonds or land mortgage?
i do think their cost building 6 engines with RM600 million is rather small
Apa barang cast iron block…. sekarang da tahun 2016 la…
i need a new car this year, how???
hopefully they will changed their mind to use aluminium block for the new engine. otherwise quite hard to have good fc… (don’t tell me they want to follow vw in dieselgate)
Do it well and
please: No Delay.
Wow… Recardo.. Thats a big name in racing engines… They are a specialist n it takes balls for them to go mainstream n volume brand…
Exciting… Bt hopefully a new initiative will take place for brand new interiors, fit and finish, materials used n so on…
I can see PUTRA or NEO with 180hp cruising on our hiway ….shut up and take ma money
I can see tow trucks waiting by the highways.
I can see owners transplanting Mitsubishi engines once the Proton one conks out.
I can see how gullible people are, only looking at numbers and history teaches them nothing.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles.
I can see policeman only busy makan duit kopi
Now get back and do your job properly. So many kes ragut and rompak nowadays!!
maruah melayu mana??….why relying on Lotus and Ricardo and the mat salleh??
Then you posted comments by your home made device? Where is your maruah?
baru keluar dari gua ke bro??
Dah zaman google dan wiki kenapa masih lagi cetek pengetahuan? Ricardo perunding dan penasihat automotive tersohor. Malahan Ferrari dan McLaren menggunakan khidmat mereka. Kalau bodoh jangan pulak sombong. Pilih satu saja, jangan tamak.
Thats plain dumb comment when we own Lotus and have advantages of working with experienced partners to access tech.
in a global world theres no need for patriotism. in the end is about saleability and how it can contribute to our economy. being too patriotic what make proton as it is.
For those in the know the campro was also designed by Ricardo , lotus had no involvement
Yes Toyota involved as Lotus engine supplier so they don’t bother whatever crap from Campro.
At last Proton listen to Paultan readers . They are dumping the timing belt campro engines. They are also going to use Jatco torque converter cvt.That is the way to progress. Their sales will improve with these new range of engines. Future looks bright 2017 onwards. Hope they test these engines properly before production.
Timing chain? I thought they have been poking fun at timing chain all these while. Makan ludah sendiri.
I think that u r eating your own puke…
Depends on design team. No right no wrong. 2015 Engine of the Year oso is timing belt. U say leh?
Ford 1.0l Ecoboost engine is also using timing belt and never needed replacement.
Your views are dogmatic as it is lame and irrelevant.
All gasoline engine, then how are you going to export your cars to Europe without a frugal diesel engine ? Is it for local use only ?
Time to revisit Proton cars soon!! Hopefully they can get the local vendors to also improve their technology..
Pokpek2..ckp gempak psl engine br tp xde plan utk hybrid atau full electric ke? Nk kena tinggal di belakang oleh other competitors in term of technology? Iriz hybrid/electric langsung xnmpk bayang..
Kalo ade jual mcm ko nk bli.. bile p1 launch ko kondem benda lain plak.. tak nk bli baik duduk diam2 je la bai..
Ms awal mmg ada minat nk beli iriz.. Pergi test drive tp at the end disappointed sb produk mcm half-baked.. Noisy cvt, small speedometer rs mcm pkai swimming goggles, lack of soft touch materials etc..initial impression always counts so at the end angkat mazda3 la.. Kalau iriz launched with hybrid/full electric and proton do address these concerns I’d buy it in a heartbeat.
then kereta apa u beli..? axia..? pasal itu saja kereta bileh lepas loan
Mazda3 la tauke..kasi baca btul2.
Mazda 3? Sempit, tak selesa, absorber dan drive shaft bunyi bising macam tikus.
Air-con tak sejuk, indah khabar dari rupa. Harapkan rupa, tapi tak ada keselesaan langsung.
Erti kata lain, memang tiada kereta yang sangat sempurna.
Honda
“The 1.5 litre turbocharged unit, meanwhile, puts out 174 hp at 5,500 rpm and 220 Nm of torque from 1,800 to 5,000 rpm”
Proton
“the 1.5 litre TGDI is stated as the most powerful of the bunch, with around 180 hp and 250 Nm on tap”
On paper. But for the actual will be much more to go.
IT WILL NEVER WORK. as long as DRB is in charge… this looks like family Y engines during DSSZ which was cancelled by drb upon take over. whatever they do proton is proton… drb is the problem.
this engine program was paid and done at least 6 years ago during DSSZ time. drb cancelled it and since they have nothing else to come up an no OEM is willing to sell them engines they want to revive it in order to suck money from MITI. it will not happen. the tech used is outdated already. even if they put ferrari engines in their cars Proton will always be proton it is people perception as they know their money goes t cronies and wasted. proton needs to be sold to a professional OEM and re invent itself but NOT UNDER DRB Cartel…
Mati lagilah Proton. Sekarang dgn lotus buat engine high rpm utk kereta penumpang. masalahnya ialah engine lebih panas & makan petrol. Sekarang dgn hard core mc laren direct injection adakah kesan panas & minum petrol berganda. (masih peminat proton).
Banyak betul hati org yg busuk mcm bankai komen kat sini….dah la komen mcm cibai….kalau suruh buat kereta mesti jadi kereta cibai punya….ni kata malaysia nak maju kalau perangai mcm cibai….puiiiiii….
no aluminium engine please……………all new cars are lights and lost it luxury driving quality due to the need to make cars light for better fuel consumptions. even honda accord feels terrible to drive. my 10 years old accord drives nicer than the current one.