RENDERING: Lancer-based Proton Waja replacement model

RENDERING: Lancer-based Proton Waja replacement model

As per some of your requests, Theophilus Chin has whipped up some artist renderings of what a new Lancer-based Proton Waja Replacement Model could look like, based on the disguised car we saw earlier today. Please remember the image above is just a rendering based on the disguised car and is not representative of any product Proton might launch in the future. Look after the jump for another front three quarter view. You can click any of the two renderings in this post for a larger view.

RENDERING: Lancer-based Proton Waja replacement model

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Comments

  • waklanproton on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    phewwittt!!!

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    • t_chin_lousy on Aug 02, 2010 at 6:03 pm

      this rendering is nothing good. why waste time on this?

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      • theophulus_chin_lousy on Aug 02, 2010 at 11:24 pm

        i dont like your work. find some useful hobby

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        • your_a_dumbass_basher on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:22 am

          you don’t like theo’s work or you just don’t like him?

          His hobby seems more useful and helpful to all of us car lovers and car buyers than whatever your wanking-as-a-hobby is.

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        • Dude, Theo’s work is AWESOME. Eventhough he sucks, he still does better job then you right?

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      • exlive3 on Aug 03, 2010 at 5:07 pm

        theo works are great….most of his rendering are the same as the actual car…keep up the good work theo….

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        • lancer_lousy on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:50 pm

          if same as actual car, then why render? wat are u talking about? are you high?

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    • FAReast on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:14 pm

      ok la, i guess…
      i like the new Lancer GT in red with the “blacken” centre style better!

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    • Alifz on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:18 am

      Yeah..If the product is exactly like this for sure I’ll change my current Waja :-)

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    • jackey on Aug 05, 2010 at 10:16 am

      close your eyes for 0.5 min… thinking about SAVVY……and thinking driving at U.K……not jalan kampung…………..savvy my first louts

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  • yeah2…im the first

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    • Kambing Gurun on Aug 02, 2010 at 7:02 pm

      Yay! I’m not the first!

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      • Jason on Aug 03, 2010 at 3:49 pm

        Waja was claimed to be Proton’s first ground up car. Sadly they did not keep that tradition. Instead they went back to their old ways of “Copy and Paste”.

        What are you doing after 25 years???
        There are no shortage of talented designers in Msia HELLO!

        :(

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        • Icecold on Aug 03, 2010 at 6:19 pm

          HELLOOO! I think you better do a little soul searching b4 coming with such a comment. Just drive around town and count how many cars are re-badged model. Let it be the Korean model or the European model. It’s nothing new, around the world those mega car manufacturer who have been establishing their brand and business for decades are also doing the same thing. With the current global economic situation it’s one of the sensible thing to do to generate revenue, while they focus on other development.

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          • torque on Aug 05, 2010 at 10:00 am

            Excuse me Icecold…I agreed with u that there is a rebadge model around us but what Jason trying to stress out is for 25 years, they still rebadging?!! Come on…tell me if the new Sonata, Tuscon even Naza decided not to rebadge anymore Peugeot with Naza name (well, we got Forte rite?). U could said that even Aston rebadging their Cygnet from Toyota iQ but that is purely a side (fun) project for them…not a profit mass production rebadging.

            U also mention about the European rebadging but which one? VW is a giant company now n as far i see VW ONLY sharing platform and tech among it’s cars company, certainly not rebadging! I don’t see any resemblance among the Touareg, Q7 and the Cayenne…oh, how about Skoda Yeti? Is it a rebadging?

            My point is Proton ain’t doing NOTHING wrong rebadging the Lancer to a Waja, I’m not saying that but Mr. Jason do have a point that we have so many, many talented Malaysian especially in mechanical engineering and designing…why not FULLY utilised them? Pls, Proton could actually buy the platform and mechanical from Mitsu but at least inject some Malaysian design to it. 25 years doing what…

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          • Proton Sucks! on Aug 12, 2010 at 6:45 am

            Copy and paste..that’s all they know..i think their “CTRL” , “C” and “P” button faded edi..press too many times..lol!

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          • MoFaz on Aug 14, 2010 at 3:56 am

            u’re more sucks la..
            since when ‘paste’ is ctrl+P? it’s ctrl+V la, dumbass!

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          • someone LOL on Aug 31, 2010 at 2:41 pm

            failure brain… i think he never use ctrl+v… then claim paste is ctrl+p,,

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        • pathetic proton on Sep 04, 2010 at 12:50 am

          yeah totally agree with u jason proton is so pathetic always leaching on others nobody wants to work with them go back to mitsu & spoil their market again just right after mitsubishi motors make a come back in m’sia & here comes the leach spoil their market again. The best part is proton still can claim that the handling is from lotus. Come on look at it its a direct copy of the lancer nothing lotus here!

          I wonder what would happen to the value of the lancers for those who own them & will mitsubishi find the exit door out of the country after proton launches this model?

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    • MoFaz on Aug 02, 2010 at 7:25 pm

      wow.. the lowest rating ever.

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    • Cidu Man on Aug 02, 2010 at 9:15 pm

      Maybe the lowest rating ever in world ( more global maaa!)

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    • mfahd on Aug 02, 2010 at 11:42 pm

      i really hate this kind of comment
      not related with the news at all!!
      perhaps viewer should ‘dislike’ it as many as they can on this type of comment
      this is blog ma,so you should post ur opinion here!!

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      • waterman on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:19 pm

        so.. paul has the rating system to disable those “i’m first!!!” comment, the problem is..
        the “Hidden due to lowcomment rating. Click here to see.” has some magics to trick us to click and see what is actually inside. damn~!

        especially the “CLICK HERE TO SEE!!” damn you!

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  • Ha Gnih on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    I’d buy this replacement model anytime, provided they don’t try to beat The Original Mitsu Lancer in terms of pricing.

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    • Facebook_User on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:49 pm

      Dude,regardless of the so called competition,they mutually gain in terms of revenue

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    • it will always be cheaper than the original.. look at naza and perodua “rebadges”…

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      • quattro on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:02 am

        go go proton > even other car makar did rebadge….to get the volume and economic scale………..

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  • evo 10.5.
    WOOT!!!
    Poor lancer buyers

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    • veryone is cheering, why u complaining… u must be current lancer owner.. sorry for u.

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      • nah, i drive a golf.
        not dissing lancer owners, just pity that their cars will soon lose value. Just cant imagine if i brought a lancer, after a few months the market flooded with protons that look like my car.

        chill bro

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        • wat happen if VW joint venture wit proton occur…proton golf come out..u must be soo…sad

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          • sun-sun on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:12 pm

            last time proton al-d joint with VW but with failure product SAVVY..

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          • Tiadaid on Aug 03, 2010 at 4:54 pm

            Proton never JV with VW! Savvy had a Renault-sourced engine from the Clio! And Savvy a failed product? Only in the eyes of superficial Malaysians.

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          • SquarePetrolHead on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:22 pm

            sun-sun… who say Savvy is a failed product? wah… hou sai lei aaa… Savvy is selling better especially after the facelift and better marketing by Proton… Nice car to drive and economical. It’s a hit in Thailand didnt you know that?

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          • I will be happy if cheaper Proton VW came out!!! ha ha ha Must Buy!!

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        • wuttaheck on Aug 03, 2010 at 4:44 pm

          after they launch this, it will be the best time to shop for 2nd hand lancer! woho0o0o0o0o!!

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          • R u saying Proton design so poor? until u need to buy 2nd hand lancer then convert it back to Ori Lancer?

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  • MoFaz on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    wahhh, very easy to convert that Waja back to Lancer.

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    • paragon on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:24 pm

      i would love to see that..really.
      hopefully the first reader to spot it can take photos and ask paul to publish here.
      then again, how would one tell a proton-covert-lancer from an original lancer?
      this is going to be very interesting!

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  • senzu bean on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    Quite nice.
    Thx Theo

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  • cool!!!

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  • bboyahman on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    most probably……outlook is like tis …..

    Wajulation…!!!!!

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  • nabill on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    its kinda wrong both ‘lancers’ be marketed in the same market……like eating into each others sales….anway the waja should come with a std 16 rims and not those big 18 found on the 2.0 lancer….

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    • SquarePetrolHead on Aug 03, 2010 at 5:44 pm

      I venture to say that nabill is a lancer owner… i can almost feel the disappointment in his post…

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      • ex-civic on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:45 am

        Just sold my civic 2.0…really disappointed with RM128k car.
        Is not a reliable car, nice to see but not so nice to drive.
        Just got my engine overhauled (drive it for 2 yrs)

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  • cicak on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Nice!!

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  • i ithink it looks nice..not bad at all

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  • 4agze on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    nice..share the same look with lancer EX
    but the proton dna is still there with the chrome garnish and blade type bumper air intake

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  • terubok masin on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    why from side view it seem like doesn’t matching with the car

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  • haha..almost..almost..good job..

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    • BTW..i still waiting for the next exora..Paul..any news about the exora mule??..

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      • lightning mcqueen on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:00 pm

        exora for major change no mule needed. If they want to make a totally new model then mule is needed.

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  • Cucukman on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    Huh..the front bumper design look like not pedestrian friendly..anyway good try..

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    • taboogen on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:24 am

      do the orignal lancer pedestrian friendly…. engineer mit ker mamat nie

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      • nazri on Aug 03, 2010 at 2:20 pm

        huhu.. dont langgar ppl dah la.. no need friendly ke no friendly ke.. janji ada orang melintas kita hati2

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  • hazri99 on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    hahaha.. nice look…

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  • SquarePetrolHead on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    Walao eee… a bit disappointed. I had hoped that Proton would take the pragmatic approach and used the Taiwan-spec Lancer as the template… If Theo’s rendering is accurate then the nose is a little disappointing for a new gen Waja… Lets hope the real thing is a lot better.

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    • HirumaKecil on Aug 02, 2010 at 8:20 pm

      wutta heck… taiwan lancer better than this??? convert at ah beng la..

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      • SquarePetrolHead on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:16 am

        HirumaKecil… have you seen the Taiwan spec Lancer??? Please check it out before you shoot your mouth off… IMHO the Taiwan spec Lancer would have been a better evolution in terms of external styling on the current Waja. Addditionally it looks more executive and family oriented than the JDM Lancer Fortis…

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      • U pay the $$$? No extra $$$ how?

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  • wah. cun-cun.

    specification not out yet huh?

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  • Farid on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    Wow! Very ‘GARANG’ look!!

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  • Nama saya Amad on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    more like a bull @ kerbau now. :D

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    • lightning mcqueen on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:02 pm

      prancing bull?

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    • SquarePetrolHead on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:18 am

      Ya laaa… Proton seems to be going for the Bull/Kerbau look basing on Theo’s rendering rather than a sleek executive sedan…

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  • Kevin Lee on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    the bottom looks like a gen 2 :(

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  • Alanore Chong on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    Inverted trapezium??? this is what Mit tried to avoid, its look too close to Audi…

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  • ong chin aun on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    What are the Spec. 1.8 or 2.0 litre ? when Will it be launch? Just like the lancer no much changed esp. the back boot and lighting.

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  • elite on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    i can already think of business opportunity to sell mitsubishi badges..

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    • highway04 on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:53 am

      lolzzzz…. ya rite

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    • Eyesore on Aug 04, 2010 at 2:56 pm

      Except… it has been done for quite sometime….. you know Proton has rebadged Mitsu a lot time previously….

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  • rickyll on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    Well done. Theophilus Chin has certainly done a good rendering. I think Proton should consider offering a position in the design department for Theophilus.

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  • AripSon on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    Good!
    After this there’ll be a lot more EvoX wannabeez!
    abih lar highway eagle…! ;p

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    • Arthur on Aug 02, 2010 at 8:27 pm

      Ah, that remain me, the said “highway eagle” that skidded “into” a highway drain not so long ago…

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    • wuttaheck on Aug 03, 2010 at 4:46 pm

      or, maybe we cant differentiate them anymore!

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  • ray_jay on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    LOL… again, Wajalution community rejoiced! Your wet dream have been answered!! :))

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  • sirlirkuv3 on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    jerung malaya

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  • trav_da_man on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    Looks bolder with the proton tiger symbol. All its needed is a suitable powerful engine and transmission to move this heavy chasis.

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  • HirumaKecil on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    Walaweh.. macho dowh…

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  • rexis on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    Why the car looks more solid after Chin’s touch up?

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  • I hate Proton Driver but luv proton car on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    I’m first

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  • Syadib on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    Good! very good design!

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  • I hate Proton Driver but luv proton car on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    look like Audi.. front view

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  • Supertram on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    remind me of the S40 , which is not bad at all

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  • niceeeee

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  • xavier lert on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    oh yea!!!…… ini mesti laris macam kari puff jual depan masjid jamek LRT

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  • Trider on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    not bad, superb PS skill
    but the front grill look ugly…. =.=||

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    • kazos on Aug 22, 2010 at 11:34 pm

      ambil theo kerja di proton design. sgt berbakat.org mcm ni la kita nak cari. Proton kena buat iklan jawatan kosong. mesti ramai nak apply

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  • andymervingeorge on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    Abit boxy but I think many EVO wannabes cant wait to get their hands on this one! It should have 15″ rims besides the 18″ ones in the Lancer GT. Good job there, Theo :D

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  • Toon899 on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    1st…..not very convincing….I still prefer Taiwan Lancer

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    • SquarePetrolHead on Aug 03, 2010 at 4:16 pm

      Toon899.. looks like only u n me like the Taiwan version here… = =” All others “Ah Beng / Mat Potong” -wannabes… (lols… no offece meant; just in this case)… Wan garang look only… = =+ Tara style lansung…

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  • Please let the price be resonable and good quality and of course powerful. With this, the sales will be WOOT

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  • Vincent on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    oh, A piece of shit…sai

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  • the 1st one is very neat.they should’ve atleast redesigned the headlamp and tail lamp though

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  • boyxinan on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    Great, Nice render

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  • kuntakinte on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    What can I say but the current Lancer owners are fcuked!!!

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    • pity the current Lancer owner.

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      • haha Lancer owner cannot show off their expensive cars anymore. Just buy this car and put Mitsu badge

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        • ayamxxx on Aug 02, 2010 at 9:24 pm

          Rase cam x lawa proton lancer ni. Nape x tiru lancer evo nyer body?

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    • my friend owns a lancer GT. when he read this news he was so f**ked up. he said he will sell the GT and buy scirocco. poor lancer…

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  • Mr.Konoha on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Wow!!!

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  • Yanagisawa on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Wah, im feel sorry with my 2 weeks old NHC..huhu

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  • Muffler on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    WOW!!!! Nice…

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  • jolly_idiot on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    OMG. the worse disaster to Lancer owner!

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    • hahaaha yeah u absolutely rite last time the old model waja was a nightmare for evo lancer 7,8,9 now it time for mit lancer haahahaha……..

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      • lightning mcqueen on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:10 pm

        who says? Even those japs will be happier… They just sell the ckd part without liability to public. The rest ie warranty p1 will absorb. Hopefully this time not like perdana case.

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  • Juragan Ketam on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Dear Proton,

    Please make tuil signal sebelah kanan this time laaa…pleaseee….

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    • petrol gila on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:48 pm

      Agreed..its difficult to change gear and to turn the signal on in the same time!!! Dangerous too…Some more, we are right hand side drive, not left…

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      • Yoshi on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:18 pm

        dats y they put it at the left side… so u wont switch the signal and change gear at the same time… switch the signal first.

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        • lightning mcqueen on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:15 pm

          ok what? Left hand side will ensure your right hand always on thw wheel. U use only left hand to do others, anyhow if u use auto, what the fuss? You do not need to change gaer what?

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        • inderaloka on Aug 05, 2010 at 7:34 pm

          You are correct, Yoshi! Very clever!

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      • Izhar on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:39 pm

        agreed…..

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      • Juragan Ketam on Aug 03, 2010 at 4:44 pm

        The problem is when we drive other car with tuil signal on the right after drive proton we get confused….always set wiper on instead of giving signal…that’s why…

        proton, please tuil signal on the right side…

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        • watatau on Aug 07, 2010 at 10:08 pm

          well.. most conti cars have it on the left.. i dont hear any complaints there

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    • Francis on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:52 pm

      Paul,

      Can ask Theophilus Chin to render…maybe Persona Side Mirror and Persona CPS bumper with this Lancer wannabe headlight?

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    • SquarePetrolHead on Aug 03, 2010 at 4:18 pm

      Tapi taulah Proton nih.. nak bagi kete nih “Continental feel” lah… mana tau masih kat kiri… aku rasa gitu lah

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  • Yanagisawa on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    im feel sorry with my 2 weeks old NHC.

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  • CopyCat on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    P1..this the best you can do..better copy the whole car then put the ‘Zebra’ emblem.

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    • ahmad on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:35 pm

      what u want to say to P2 for copying passo????

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      • Nutty Dad on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:04 pm

        P2 is a Toyota company!! P2, Toyota punya. Jadi, anak tak payah “copy’ dari bapak.
        Apa yg bapak punya, anak pun boleh pakai la.
        Tapi…..
        P1 sudah lama bercerai dgn bini no.1 Mitsubishi & masih single. Sekarang bersama2 semula.
        Jadi Lancer tiruan ini seperti anak luar nikah hasil ‘cinta’ dua kekasih lama ini^^

        Waja Binilama!!

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        • Nutty Dad on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:07 pm

          Waja LN (Luah Nikah)
          Waja LT (Lancer Tiruan)
          Waja GL (Girlfriend Lama)…^^

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        • Nakal on Aug 02, 2010 at 6:20 pm

          Conclusion – P2 anak yang daif, dari lahir sampai sekarang cuma tahu rebadge je.
          Toyota pula – Bapak yang kedekut dan tak mahu anaknya berkembang maju sampai bila-bila pun. Keluarga bahagia. End.

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        • autojohndoe on Aug 02, 2010 at 7:39 pm

          i pity perodua engineers…

          they work and manufacture the car… but it is Toyota that get the appreciation…

          What is your feeling when you make something, but no one see you as if you are not exist at all…

          the worst is… at your own place…

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          • Katak on Aug 02, 2010 at 9:41 pm

            I am sure most Perodua employees (those u mentioned engineers too) are much more happy than me & you with those fat bonuses from the day Myvi was on sale ^^
            Maybe P1 engineers are those who complaining here…:P

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        • ahmad on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:25 am

          dorang kan ada perjanjian…then mitsu nak keta dia dikeluarkan…tu bukan copy bang…tu namanye ‘kerjasama’ atau pun pertukaran idea…kalau duk ikut kata toyota jek…ape kebaikan pada teknologi automotif kat malaysia? nothing….

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        • who's dat gal on Aug 03, 2010 at 3:29 pm

          well, let us see when the car comes out? i am sure deep inside ur heart u will also wish u would change your current car with the proton lancer.. u bet! hehe

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        • Hope P2 introduce Perodua Alphard, Perodua Caldina, Perodua Camry, Perodua Altis, Perodua Estima..

          How about Perodua Dugong??No need la..hahahaha

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    • saki77 on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:50 pm

      There are agreements between Mitsu and Proton…look for it…and also this is only a temporary solution for Waja….

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      • temporary… will stuck for sale in the P1 showroom for the next 10 years perhaps…?

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  • That is nice! i will buy it if the price is right!

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    • Price below 70K is ok la! Because national car need a lot of money to maintain after 3 years,agree?

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      • lightning mcqueen on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:18 pm

        alfa is even worse la dude esp twinspark.

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      • lightning mcqueen on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:21 pm

        name me one car that u donot have to do major sevice? Honda pun quote 2k for timing belt change etc every 3 years…. Do ur homework dude.

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      • casey_c on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:28 am

        Proton and Perodua spare parts are still cheaper compared to Korean cars.

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  • Goniothalamus on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    look more meaners!!!

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  • karpal sinking on Aug 02, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    looks good

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  • chuakz on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    paul…isnt the new cayenne and new XJ launched already? no article?

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  • BMALOI on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    Cool, thanks for your effort, but lancer’s design still better. I am sure ppl will opt for changing it’s bumper after they got the car from proton.

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  • lil bit volvo’ish

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  • abcde12345 on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    wowwwwwwwwwwwww

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  • alldisc on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    nicely done Paul & Theo. If only Proton could have done a little bit more change… the side mirrors and headlamp design….. and voila – unrecognisable already. otherwise, still has strong lancer image.

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  • wow..looks a bit like volvo…

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  • SwiftMatrix on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Nothing to shout about his car, though it may be great for “Lancer Evo” wannabe….

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    • 350z Owner on Aug 02, 2010 at 5:33 pm

      Nice one! After this new model roll out,there will be million more of ‘Evo 10’ wanna be on the road… Haiya…When lar those ‘wannabe’ driver want to be proud of what they can afford.

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  • khairuddin on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    wah cantik..klu murah leh la angkat 1..

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  • eadgez on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    ouuuuuch! the grille.. im so not into this Waja. waiyo.

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  • longtimereader on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    the front end looks awkward..

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  • WAH!!!! SHIOK !!

    now i get to modify it to a EVO X

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  • Georgie on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    This guy is good man. Great work theophilus!
    However, the original lancer wasn’t the best looking car in its segment after all. :/
    Okay next, rebrand latest generation Colts into new Savvy!

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    • that seems liek a veeery logical choice…P1 think tanks, are reading these ?

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    • Johnny on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:32 pm

      yeah, after that make the evo x into our next GTI or putra.. hehehe

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      • SquarePetrolHead on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:51 pm

        Following on from Ayz comment… YES… and we have the ALL NEW SATRIA & SATRIA GTi… no more Neo this Neo that…

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  • if this is the real waja, then a lot of ppl will buy, but the price??????

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  • t6amaki on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Wonderful , rebadge is mean like this, juz refer to peugeot and citroen which share same platform with Mitsubishi juz alter the design minor with their own design language without overdone. i’m loving it if equip wit GEMA engin >o<

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  • Wajalancer on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    If the new Waja is to look like this, the Mitsu Lancer owners can breathe a sign of relief.. coz their additional 30k+ gives them a better nose…..

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    • barium on Aug 02, 2010 at 5:31 pm

      and with additional few thousand RM, this wajalancer also can go for the same look ;)

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  • @@”‘ OMG~ izzit imported unit and rebagde only? just like Perodua Nutica / Rush ??

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    • but i think they will not do a silly mistake like P2.. they will put the price bellow 90K.. not like nautica, P2 have put a sky high price compare to the rush.. what a c-ly.. haha

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  • rear light on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    front looks a bit like of Volvo, which is I cannot decide if it is good or not…

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  • protondesignerwannabe on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    http://www.rainbowmotorsport.com/wp-content/uploads/wpsc/product_images/DSC01523%20(Medium).jpg

    malas dah nak cakap.

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    • gempak la

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    • wow….but this is the modified original lancer rite? I dunt think it is a spyshot from factory….as there is TIEN emblem there… (except if mention Proton, then thats it)

      anyway im very happy if this spyshot shows it is using lancer rear lamp, but when launch, suddenly a different rear lamp, best thing..this new LED lamp!!

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      • protondesignerwannabe on Aug 02, 2010 at 7:09 pm

        bukan proton punya. proton nak kasi murah itu pasal semua low spec.

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    • Supertram on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:33 pm

      That’s an aftermarket tail LED lamp for curent Lancer, why dont u post the eagle eyes for Lancer too

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      • protondesignerwannabe on Aug 02, 2010 at 7:23 pm

        nah. wanna eagle eye ait.
        http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2227/861/30565430044_large.jpg
        http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2227/861/30565430043_large.jpg
        http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2227/861/30565430049_large.jpg

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    • cairell on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:01 pm

      nice led rear!

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  • front bumper look…. weird…

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  • that was quick! lol…. dont quite like the second angle… kinda looks like a warthog..lol… front angle is nice though… good job theo!

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  • Bryan on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Can I ask, When It will arrived in Malaysia and what is the Price??

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    • Bro, the car already in Malaysia.. the price? just wait lor…

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  • megan on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    this is nice.. !!!! superb!

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  • Zahar Zain on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Theo, always admired your work……Proton should employ you……

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  • raja hakim on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    wah…. lawa gak… if this were the real car… nice work theopilus

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  • yup…front angle(1st pic) is nice…

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  • archer on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    its almost like volvo laa….hahah

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  • thank u very much paul and theo….

    now just waiting for the specs and price list before checking my wallet and ready to call for booking!

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  • maxchock on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    my god, so anyone will go and buy a Lancer GT now?? coz the LanJa GT is coming out.. LOL~~~

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  • JonLing on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    Theophilus is a genius, this rendering looks amazing, despite the rather-too-square-ish nose. Anyway, this car is gonna sell like hot cakes, especially amongst youngsters. I have met many of my frens express interest in buying Lancer GT, but due to its price, they didn’t buy it. So i think this car has huge potential. Wish that its handling would be much, much better than the “original”, and hope that lotus can change the rather dead-sound of the engine too.

    For me though, I would keep waiting for the new Persona. Designed by Italdesign is somewhat a “quality assurance” for me in terms of look department.

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  • Aghast on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Wow, after 25 year anniversary, what do we have? Another home grown, Malaysian designed and built NEW MODEL. Must have spent many many millions on R & D, extensive testing on the durability of the bumpers & badges.
    Great decision, this is of course much better than VW, dont think the germans would let you just change the badge laa…
    Only pity there are no Scorpene cars, that would fit the bill.

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    • frossonice on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:11 pm

      It’s a re-badged. It won’t cost hundred of millions to do it unless they’re stupid. It is better to re-badge than to pour billions to design a whole new car that sell less than 2k a month.

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      • After 25 years in operation, a rebadge is all they can come up with?

        If joint development is an acceptable effort in keeping costs to a minimal.

        All i can say is “Pathetic”

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        • takhabis2 on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:10 am

          its temporary replacement laa bodoh!

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          • Oh I see….. so this is a common thing among car manufacturers laaaa…. rebadge from a 3 year old model from other company and declare as a temporary replacement…..

            Pemalas jugak yea, these car designers and engineers…. any opening for me in your company? i.e. Proton

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    • corolla_KE70 on Aug 02, 2010 at 5:43 pm

      whoa.. just by looking to this rendering, this guy can come out with those facts.. genius !!

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  • pultat on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    I can hear Civic owners laffing out real loud now…

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  • Tiadaid on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    Kinda looks like a Chrysler 300

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    • SquarePetrolHead on Aug 03, 2010 at 4:22 pm

      The front design too fussy la from the rendering….

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  • Amiran on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    My opinion is that, this is a dangerous strategy played by Proton for taking 100% Lancer minus fr&rr bumper with Proton’s logo.

    So seems like Proton is making their ‘Jaguh Kampung’ remarks more obvious, because this car should’ve not gone out for oversea market. If it do (by Mitsi consent), who want to buy a Lancer with Proton badge anyway?

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    • nazri on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:16 pm

      why dangerous Amiran.. ?

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    • JACK HAMMER on Aug 02, 2010 at 5:09 pm

      PERODUA FOREVER BE A JAGUH KAMPUNG..
      bcoz ALL PERODUA CARS, i mean “ALL” should not going out oversea market too..

      like who wanna buy a passo with a PERODUA badge..
      or a move with a PERODUA badge..
      or a mira with a PERODUA badge
      or a sette with a PERODUA badge
      or a rush with a PERODUA badge

      cmon… prfthhhh..

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      • Dewata on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:25 pm

        Perodua MyVi got sell in UK dude…

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        • JACK HAMMER on Aug 04, 2010 at 1:32 am

          myvi?? UK? prfthhhhh…

          So is PROTON…. DUDE…

          old iswara sold in UK long time ago..
          old satria sold in UK long time ago..
          old wira sold in UK long time ago..
          waja sell in UK..
          gen2 sell in UK..
          persona sell in UK..
          neo sell in UK..
          savvy sell in UK..

          and DUDE…
          PROTON CARS also sell in brunei, indonesia, singapore, thailand, nepal. sri lanka, bangladesh, taiwan, pakistan, turkey, cyprus, iran, kuwait, qatar,saudi arabia, bahrain, UAE, iraq, syria, oman, egypt, mauritius, south africa and australia..

          PERODUA???? prfthhhh..

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    • rear light on Aug 02, 2010 at 5:33 pm

      iswara, wira, arena, gen2, saga blm, arena, kelisa etc have been sold at oversea market..so what is your concern anyway?even arena has been rebadged by mitsu…

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    • Amiran on Aug 02, 2010 at 11:10 pm

      Good argument guys…
      Perodua’s cars are based on Daihatsu which is ultimately Toyota’s. So whatever sold being it Toyota ka, Daihatsu ka, Perodua ka, all will be pouring in Toyota’s pocket! Of course la M’sian pocketed from it lil bit. Of course I dont have the figure who get most, but guess it’s Toyota.

      So same to Mitsi in this case. Lancer belongs to them. I guess whatever number Proton got to sell this car, ultimately its Mitsi that profitted most. Its their chassis, their g/box, their engine, and you know what, even the sheet metal is theirs (I mean come fr Japan). And for Proton, as long as their sale dont surpass the amortisation volume, they are not going to bag any profit fr this car (this is what I guess happened to Perdana). And… if ultimately Proton surpass this volume, what tangible benefit will Proton get fr this other than a bit of profit? Technology? Expertise?

      And Mitsi gets more mileage for their tested technology, components and volume for their factories in Japan.
      Guys… do you know car components made in Japan are almost entirely cheaper than made in M’sia. We all know that their costs are generally more expensive. But they have very-very big volume to spread, unlike ours. And this is what Korean are benefiting now…

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  • ong chin aun on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    It looks very big car! Is it aerodynamic enough ? Suggest why not redesign the front part esp. the grill.

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  • KeretaKebal on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    hiyooo still mau condemn Proton ker? Myvi tuh ape cerita..copy and paste jugak…alza,viva,nautica..tak ada org bising pon…

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    • bukan copy paste kawan,tapi rebadge

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    • inderaloka on Aug 05, 2010 at 7:39 pm

      Perodua dah sah-sah ada share dengan Toyota. Apa aku kisah kalau dia rebadge model-model ‘ayah’ dia si Toyota tu. Kalau ikutkan, Perodua tak layak dapat status kereta nasional. Proton 100% syarikat kereta nasional. Dah 25 tahun, patut ada identiti sendiri, bukan still nak copy dan rebadge jer…

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  • redfueler on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    err???

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  • scanzew on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    sorry to say!!! it such a weird design……

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    • corolla_KE70 on Aug 02, 2010 at 5:46 pm

      it’s a rendering, not the final output.. BELAJAR BACA BETUL-BETUL, then you can put in a good comments..

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  • please less than 70k,
    but what engine gonna power this waja evo? cps 1.6?
    or even better the cps 1.6 turbo?
    wow… magnificient,,

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    • shahmetal on Aug 02, 2010 at 6:32 pm

      it would be between RM70k – RM80k.. just like old Waja pricing. And the engine would be mivec. no CAMPRO.

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  • samat on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    One word for the front = UGLY !!

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    • KeretaKebal on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:53 pm

      haiyoo ..thisrendering is not officially by proton lol

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      • dreamer on Aug 02, 2010 at 8:21 pm

        it may be worse from proton’s work……..

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        • Rambo Ramsey on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:33 am

          It might be better

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        • SquarePetrolHead on Aug 03, 2010 at 4:47 pm

          dreamer… ini rendering je dari foto2 yg ambik oleh orang… jgn maki usaha org untuk blog ini… kurang sopan tau tak?!

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  • kaminski on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    Great rendering and so quick!

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  • Paul, the sharing on facebook feature on your blog is still a bit cacat. the picture turned out to be the celcom blue bear instead.

    Hope you can improve on this aspect.

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  • disappointed on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    i think it should b like lancer fortis…. so disappointed…..

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  • ji kao on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    Walaupon ianya imitasi, aku tak peduli, kerana aku rasa model replacement ni mmg bole jual, inilah yg rakyat msia mahukan. Kalo kita tgk dijalanraya pon, mmg kebanyakkan rakyat msia yg mempunyai waja mmg mengimpikan memiliki sebuah lancer, tu yg byk convert bodikit, mane2 yg tak mampu pon paling kurang akan letak badge mitsu ganti emblem proton. Aku cuma harap proton r&d abis gila pon kasi tune sket la lampu tuh, skang zaman LED, so dpt la guna influence LED kt front+rear light.
    Tp secara jujur, aku lebih mengharapkan proton keluarkan model based on neo, sebab pada perkiraan aku neo mmg ade potensi utk dimajukan, cuma masalahnya neo hanya ade 2 pintu, kalo model neo ini proton dpt develop jadi mcm panamera [Porsche] yg jadi 4 pintu, aku rasa bole hit kt market. Keter 2 pintu kt msia dah masuk market sejuk, tu yg susah nak blah tuh. Tp aku tak tau lah, maybe lebih mudah jual keter yg rebadged dr develop keter yg kita design sendiri. Or maybe r&d proton ade keje lain yg lebih penting or r&d proton mmg dah takde idea. So itu pendapat aku la.
    Ape2pon mmg aku rasa model nih mmg akan hit kt market, so kedai2 potong akan lebih dikunjungi oleh car enthusiast for looking the evo lancer part. Maybe ramai yg kata proton malas, no originality, back to zero, bla bla bla, but for me business is always business, your money, your choice… aku harap proton akan lebih byk bawak model2 rebadge, dan kalo dpt tukar luar je, interior just follow the current one, tapi ade sket pertanyaan; model nih utk replacement waja or perdana? Coz kalo replacement waja mcm besar jek aku tgk, but kalo perdana tuh mmg molek la… ?

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    • IsmetUlamRaja on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:15 pm

      you’re right…business always need to come first.
      Actually wajalution ni bukan replacement waja or perdana,this model just to fill the gap until the new model keluar (Persona R). And i can guarantee you,Persona R is really has it WOW factor! :)

      erm..Proton currently lebih expert to excite people..ahaa! in business marketing,that is good! AND THANKS to PAUL’s blog..ahakss…

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    • dari ape yg aku tahu.. yg nie mmng utk replacement waja.. dan skarang saiz kete proton tgah cube meet euro pnye saiz.. so rasa nye persona replacemnt pon akan besar jugak dari saiz sedia ada… harap2 proton dapat bg satu kejutan utk model persona replacement.. perah lagi idea!!

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    • zarreta on Aug 03, 2010 at 2:36 pm

      if proton make neo as 5 door hatchback..confirm myvi bungkus.

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      • Hiro Nakamura on Aug 12, 2010 at 5:36 pm

        Don’t know the cost of a suicide door for development. However, if it was thought in advance it would’ve been good. Don’t need Neo. If Saga launched during Myvi launching, Myvi also bungkus..

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  • azrai on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    Somehow it look like a Volvo.

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  • gangully on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    looks very much like a tiger now :)

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  • akupunya on Aug 02, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    cun!! but it’s nt original from proton..huhu..

    good luck proton…

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  • so ugly la!!! If it is price rm7x,xxx, I will rather buy kia forte since both of them is in the same segment…

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    • corolla_KE70 on Aug 02, 2010 at 5:48 pm

      you go buy whatever you want.. nobody begs you to buy this..

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    • ae101rulez on Aug 02, 2010 at 7:44 pm

      hehe..if you buy forte, you forgo the choice of transplanting evo x engine inside wor..hehehe..which is better choice..

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    • akupunya on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:32 am

      gebang je lebih..dari beli sporte..better beli waja baru ni sbb second value lagi tinggi dari forte tu..

      apa2pun, review lancer ni mmg tak tinggi. diroang kata bising kuat..

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  • anyway, here’s my take on the proton waja if i were to mod it as soon as i get one lol.
    http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs266.snc4/39656_458563182315_778977315_6299842_2402040_n.jpg

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  • PutraMalaya on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    nice job malaysian proton..wooot3 o_O

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  • guys….
    korang perasan x ada something kat atas bumbung…..
    i dont know what is that…sun roof or moon roof….

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  • Firza on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    aiyo theo……proton certainly should employ u bro……..you’ve done a great job here……

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    • leonardo on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:34 am

      Sorry to bust your bubble, but it takes more than just photoshop skills to be a car designer. You need to understand packaging, pedestrian safety, future automotive legislations, engine cooling, target cost, materials, crash tests, etc. You also need to have CAD skills to make the B class surfaces. All these you can pick up in transport design class. All the best!

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      • Firza on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:21 am

        yup….most agree with u leonardo…………if theo came from industrial design basis, he should know all this and looking at his creativity rendering all his work, i think it looks promising……..

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  • umno juara tipu rakyat on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    so now proton becoming like pero2???…i have no complains but to those die hard proton fans u cant eksen anymore coz proton do rebadge too!..juz like pero2..wakakakaka

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    • PakAbu on Aug 02, 2010 at 8:10 pm

      Rebadge TOO vs rebadge ONLY big difference ooo…
      Either way I don’t care. ;)

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  • rizal on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    hmmm……better mitsu compare to design. How about equitment? hopefully proton not reduce anything….heheheh, because rumours said this car will sell RM 80K? So, should be better right?

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  • Somehow I think Theo’s rendering is going to be better than the actual car design.
    Think he should go work for them :)

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  • altimate on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    IMO, looks good from the front. BUT not from sideways.. I’m not criticising you Theo, bcos Lancer has that ugly nose too, it’s by design lol

    good thing abt it though, it’d be spacious and i always liked lancer’s neat interior, perfect for family looking for mid-size sedan with smaller cc.. assuming that it’ll be 1.6

    proton, please price it right .. how much do you guys reckon this would go on sale ??

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  • Nice! Theophilus.

    I think your front grill & bumper design will be far more better looking than the actual Proton ones.

    If those so called Design Engineers @ P1 knows how to design.. they won’t not op to re-badge the Lancer already. muahaha!

    Just my 2 sens lah.. not to offend anyone.. err.. freedom of speech?

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    • autojohndoe on Aug 02, 2010 at 11:04 pm

      chop shop is easy than engineering… no offense Mr Theo Chin…

      Why dont you try design something beautiful on paper…

      then, try materialize it…

      let see if it is as beautiful as your design…

      then, you will understand the difference between design and manufacturing…

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  • budin on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    previous waja already use projector as a headlamp, and HID on cps models… why not this rebadge mitsubishi – proton models using projector headlamp too instead of normal reflector.. as we can see on taiwan lancer fortis and imported evo 10…? for 1.8 projector using normal halogen and for 2.0 projector using HID….

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  • azrai on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    !.8l & 2.ol engine specsheet:-

    4B10
    Specifications
    —————
    Engine type Inline 4 cylinder DOHC 16v, MIVEC
    Displacement 1.8 L (1798 cc)
    Bore 86 mm
    Stroke 77.4 mm
    Compression ratio 10.5:1
    Fuel system ECI multiple

    Peak power 105 kW (143 PS) at 6000 rpm
    Peak torque 177 N·m (130 ft·lbf) at 4250 rpm

    4B11
    Specifications
    —————
    Engine type Inline 4 cylinder DOHC 16v, MIVEC
    Displacement 2.0 L (1998 cc)
    Bore 86 mm
    Stroke 86 mm
    Compression ratio 10:1
    Fuel system ECI multiple

    Peak power 108-114 kW (147-155 PS) at 6000 rpm
    Peak torque 198 N·m (146 ft·lbf) at 4250 rpm

    Characteristics
    —————
    The engines’s bore and stroke both measure 86.0 mm, which engineers refer to as square. According to Mitsubishi, the new cylinder dimensions contribute to a free-revving character (6,500 rpm redline, 8000 rpm final), linear power delivery and wide torque curve. Mitsubishi used a timing chain instead of a belt for better reliability, iridium spark plugs to lower emissions and to help extend major service intervals for lower cost of ownership. To reduce weight, Mitsubishi used a plastic cam cover and intake manifold and double-layer stainless steel exhaust manifold. The exhaust manifold has a rear location on the transverse engine, compared to the front location for the previous engine, yielding important benefits such as better emissions performance. To lower vibration, Mitsubishi used a 4-point inertial axis system with cylindrical hydraulic engine mounts on the left and right sides. A lightweight, high-rigidity squeeze-cast aluminium bracket on the right side mount (engine side) lowers engine noise under acceleration. A lightweight, high-rigidity steel plate bracket on the left side mount (transmission side) lowers gear noise. A custom-tuned insulator was developed for the front and rear mounts to help control both idle vibration and acceleration shoc

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    • bobdbilder on Aug 02, 2010 at 6:08 pm

      Doesn’t mean a thing to me if its mated to the rubber band CVT transmission. Wait till we get weight figures and 0 to 100km/h timings. Then we’ll see. If it is as sluggish as the current Lancer, I’ll forget about it and stick with the Neo CPS.

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    • slumber on Aug 02, 2010 at 6:58 pm

      Mitsubishi 4B11 bore x stroke is the same as the Hyundai Theta II 2.0, difference in tuning in the Theta II makes it produce 165PS and 200Nm at the same revs. So this engine should be ‘tunable’ to produce higher output. Just my opinion.

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    • WhiteFox on Aug 02, 2010 at 11:40 pm

      For ur info high chance that this is mostly come with gema engine although there are same model but there don’t have “MIVEC”

      Mivec is Mitsubishi technology it will no let go that easy.

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  • assnwar on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    gonna own it ..cant wait la..

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  • hubcap on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    the front looks like tractor!

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  • Azfar on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    Looks ok…. thought it would be a lancer fortis

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  • plotong on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    pity those current lancer owner. the value of the car will drop just like kia carninval rebadge to naza ria

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  • manGuy on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Here come Proton Lancar… hehehe

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  • yang suka kereta on Aug 02, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    wah2….kalau sama harga ngan cruze tamau bali…but it looks nice with the wing grill….

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  • a highly possible mod that pple would opt for.
    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6298911&id=778977315&ref=notif&notif_t=photo_comment#!/photo.php?pid=6300368&id=778977315

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  • Gajen on Aug 02, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    the front should have a one big grille rather than splitting into 2…nice

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  • azfar on Aug 02, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    Looks like the sketch for the “Peraduan Namakan Proton Sedan”.

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  • Azfar on Aug 02, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    Not bad looking… looks like the sketch from the “peraduan namakan proton sedan”. Kinda hoped it is from lancer fortis though.

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  • pumpkin on Aug 02, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    i believe most of waja fans not really care hw the front bumper look like, coz after this their ll convert to Mitsu lancer look…..

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  • MINI FREAK! on Aug 02, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    no offence, but it looks better than the Lancer.

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  • barium on Aug 02, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    its ok if u dont like the cosmetic changes from the original lancer, there’s always aftermarket choices :)

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  • adoyai on Aug 02, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    hahaha a wet dream come true to some of us,
    and a horrible nightmare to original lancer owners..

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  • why can’t proton design their own car. i mean.. seriously .. dun tell me proton holdings have not even a single person in their company to say : hey, we are bigger in sales compared to Mitsubishi.. time for us to beat them..

    dont you proton holdings think that as a driver, we don’t want a car to be similar lookings to a lancer yet less powerful and equipped ?????????????

    came on… 25 years man!!! and you are still buying design… seriously ?????????

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    • Proton is a very small company… if you compare with toyota… for sure they lose….. 5 million car a year (err is it true?? or more than that??) compared to 200 thousand car a year… plus with many people condemn them.. even malaysian themselves did say bad about them… 25 years but have a very small number of rnd engineer..PLUS without any joint venture development… it’s very hard laa to catch up with them… but they are on the right way…. so much improvement in this last 3 years…

      i think that this is something that they want to fill up before the lunching of 2012 new persona R… gud luck proton…

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    • mr. wiseGuy on Aug 02, 2010 at 6:26 pm

      demmit..cant agree more !!
      aiyaa proton2

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    • nebula87 on Aug 02, 2010 at 6:29 pm

      noob ar…try 2 c others 1st la..not only proton is copying others…

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    • shahmetal on Aug 02, 2010 at 6:37 pm

      proton is not buying this design.. ini kerjasama proton – mitsubishi. if this model is successful, mitsu will stop the lancer and shift the production to proton. dats y almost 100% its mitsu product. come on guys, it’s what malaysian want. cheap lancer. we still got persona, gen2, and exora to be proud of. just one model would not hurt our pride.

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    • infinity on Aug 02, 2010 at 6:50 pm

      do we need to go through this over and over again??

      this is a very common practice among car manufacturers..need example? i think there’s some comment up there about this rebadging exercise among other manufacturers.

      it is not that proton rebadge everything..u still have persona, gen2, saga, savvy, satria neo and perhaps, Emas..these are all designed and developed by proton.

      please wake up and don’t bash for the sake of bashing…

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      • Tiadaid on Aug 02, 2010 at 7:42 pm

        Forget it. You can raise the same issue over and over and over again and yet those bashers still give you the thumbs down. Let them be with their close mindedness! If they can’t think, so be it!

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    • Elvis on Aug 02, 2010 at 7:21 pm

      Bro, proton DID try to design on they own. You forgot Waja, Savvy, Exora, Gen2 , BML etc? Aiyah, so young, so forgetful oledi? Somemore, tonggeng problem bro! Its better to have little pride than bigger lose of face. Proton almost bankrupt twice! You still forget about this episodes? Pleaselah, no shame on rebadge, Malaysia oledi 80% drop on FDI, STILL wanna show PRIDE? Proton will bungkus in few years time if continue on their own. R &D not cheap, and volume of sells no big (ehem, only malaysians buy Proton okay). Think business sense not pride sense

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      • LauCN on Aug 02, 2010 at 9:02 pm

        where the money gov took away from us on the local car tax? still no money for R&D after scrapping M’sian for 25 years? only blind people cant see such crystal clear truth

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        • Tiadaid on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:49 am

          I don’t know bout others, but I know YOU are blind. Saga EV, Exora Hybrid, EMAS, Persona R. Those aren’t the fruits of R&D? Crystal clear truth my arse!

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          • watatau on Aug 07, 2010 at 10:20 pm

            i agree with you… some of the things proton are doing now is better than some car manufacturers that has been in the game longer

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      • autojohndoe on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:56 pm

        when is the news of Proton were about to bankrupt?

        any link?

        paper excerpt?

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        • Elvis on Aug 03, 2010 at 2:38 pm

          OMG, you such ignorant dude. YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT PROTON FACING BANKRUPTANCY? Dont you know during financial crisis 1998 gomen have to bail out proton? Similar exercise in 1996 where gomen used our money EPF to save Proton?

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          • Elvis on Aug 03, 2010 at 5:44 pm

            Sori, not 1996 but 2006

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          • Tiadaid on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:17 pm

            That’s in 2006. It’s not like they’re still going bankrupt. Similarlah GM and Chrysler in 2008, 2010 they recovering. Now with Persona, Exora & Saga making money for them.

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      • autojohndoe on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:58 pm

        and, Only malaysian buy proton?

        hahaha… you must be never read paper…

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        • Elvis on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:50 pm

          Since you are so smart, tell us, how many Proton cars sold to NON MALAYSIANS? EXCLUDING THOSE BOUGHT BY MALAYSIA GOMEN OVERSEAS

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          • no name on Aug 04, 2010 at 12:19 am

            lot of proton sold in Iran ( i saw 3 Gen-2 near bomb blast place in iran when the news show at TV3..).. also in turkey, australia (mostly Arena at their sub-urban).. also somewhere at africa at east europe..

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    • SquarePetrolHead on Aug 03, 2010 at 4:54 pm

      Ala this noob really noob… i ask you la… which car company today not borrowing platform? Car business is a business must have business case… in this case I agree that Proton use an exisiting model with mild changes (just wish they used Taiwan Lancer as base… that another story)… you how much $$$ to re-design the whole car if still use the Lancer chasis?? This is more economical and the right way to go… Proton is not in too good shape financially too.. just recovering

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    • aremee on Sep 27, 2010 at 9:54 pm

      1 malaysia bro…support the brand of your country…if not move 2 singapore.tq.

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  • Elvis on Aug 02, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    Hope the real thing will be as good looking! I am all for rebadge, so will wait and see how the replacement feedbacks from buyers. I suspect initially batch will be CBU to test market before fully produced here but then again i am just assuming here. Somemore Proton lancer is using untested GEMA engine, may face some problems here and there. But then again, what do i know, wait and see from feedbacks.

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    • slumber on Aug 02, 2010 at 6:55 pm

      Untested GEMA engine? It is a global engine, so the quality should be there.

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      • Elvis on Aug 02, 2010 at 9:52 pm

        Untested by Proton was what i meant.

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        • autojohndoe on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:55 pm

          even you say that… it will not cover the stupidity…

          GEMA is tested by Hyundai, GM and MMC…

          then, installed into current Lancer…

          the same GEMA engine goes to this car…

          So, which part of “untested” do you mean not done by Proton?

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    • nazri on Aug 02, 2010 at 7:39 pm

      Elvis.. what gema untested? where u get fact??
      issit gema is sharing engine between mitsu, hyundai and GM..??

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    • autojohndoe on Aug 02, 2010 at 7:46 pm

      GEMA is developed by Hyundai, MMC and GM…

      all three has the same engine but different Cyl Head i think…

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    • Katak on Aug 02, 2010 at 9:44 pm

      What he want to say is….Proton may just use the GEMA engine without doing much testing. He just a worry M’sian car buyer ^^
      Start booking now b4 it’s even confirmed!!!!! Yeah^^

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      • slumber on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:00 pm

        So, tell me, how good will Proton’s testing be? Rivals those of Hyundai, GM, MMC?

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  • Not bad… if only Proton were to adopt TC’s renderings…

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  • anti proton on Aug 02, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    ya proton should wake up man!!!!25years of making car but still use copy and re badge
    what a shame =.=

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    • no name on Aug 04, 2010 at 12:05 am

      what about citroen and pegeuot that rebadge Mitsu Outlander??
      that also a big Shame..!!!

      c’mon laaa.. cant u read??

      REBADGE is more saving that build a total new car..

      Aston Martin also rebadge Toyota’s iQ, Subaru rebadge Toyota’s Passo??

      i hope u can give brilliant explaination on this situation..

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      • aremee on Sep 27, 2010 at 9:56 pm

        agreed with u man….that guy doesnt know anything about cars…..

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  • this sucks for lancer owner

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    • learner on Aug 02, 2010 at 7:07 pm

      no, this news is great for them, now they can go to any spareparts shop and asking, ‘tokey, bagi saya waja baru munya oil dan air filter…’. now easy to get cheap parts and soon under tree mechanics will be familiar with the engine, so easy to troubleshoot also. while they still be proud of the ori mitsu quality.

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  • silver on Aug 02, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    good!

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  • omg….i’m so goin to buy it….wonder hw much it cost?….

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  • They know they are going to use the Lancer body. Hence, the minimal disguise. But I believe it is a business decision by Proton, probably these Waja variant aren’t selling that well, so might as well focus their resources on cars that are selling well.

    I’m guessing, in terms of market placement, on how it compares with the Japs and the Koreans-

    Persona – Vios, City
    Waja – Corolla, Civic, Elantra
    Perdana – Camry, Accord, Sonata
    Exora – Wish, Grand Livina

    Proton definitely need a global car – a car with a global presence – like the Camry. I think that’s the way forward. Maybe their resources is limiting them. But hey! Again, it’s a business decision to make, sell the land in Shah Alam and relocate the operation in Tanjung Malim, probably gamble the new earned money to research on a much proper model – a model that actually sells.

    Sometimes, you have to put aside sentiments to move forward.

    After all, we all love Proton, don’t we? Politics aside, we all want Proton, which is our national pride to succeed much like Petronas did.

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    • zaff1984 on Aug 02, 2010 at 7:24 pm

      errr…. Wish..? i dont think so… if Avanza yes.

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      • Tiadaid on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:45 am

        Do you know they benchmarked the Exora to Wish. Alza’s in similar category to Avanza, but Exora’s in Wish category

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    • inderaloka on Aug 02, 2010 at 8:09 pm

      Yes, put politics aside. It kills creativity.

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    • pacifictuna on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:58 pm

      politicians don’t drive…….. they only talk.

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  • slumber on Aug 02, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    I’m worried in the end WE the consumers ended up paying more! Proton has developed their own IAFM / CPS engine and this time adding up GEMA engine to their line-up seems a step backwards to offer the mass market a reasonably priced local made car! Talk about how much resources they need to spend to manage so many parts!

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  • baik tukar design lampu belakang tu……buruk…*0*

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  • waklanproton on Aug 02, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    slot market model for 1.8 & 2.0. Persona total replace 2012. Perdana coming 2011. Proton Emas 2012. Saga fl 2011. Exora Lpt 2011. Hemm..still argue proton xbuat keje?

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    • autojohndoe on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:52 pm

      this ppl… ckap mcm mne pn.. xnk dgr… konon mcm bgus…

      why dont this ppl design a car… a proper car… a single seater frame car also OK…

      with engineering calculation….

      let see if you can pass the STATIC test of the car…

      then you will start to appreciate Mechanical Automotive Engineering… Not ah beng workshop!

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    • acerman on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:55 am

      Those bashers are too LAZY to read about. That’s why.

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  • wootie wootie on Aug 02, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    malaysia always boleh wert :D wajalution 10 :O

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  • mirror mirror on Aug 02, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    Waja sounds like a better name, Lancer sounds like ‘lazy snake’ in Chinese.

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  • usually i support proton, but this time, i have something to say.. rebadging by just doing minimal change will take proton same as perodua.. why must do the rebadging?? come on la proton?? is Gen2 and Exora only u can design since Waja roll out in 2000?? i dont mention persona bcoz it same as Gen2.. also EMAS bcoz it design by Italdesign.. mybe can save budget, but what i know proton have fund about 2 billion.. why cannot do R&D and design their own car..

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    • no name on Aug 04, 2010 at 12:00 am

      pegueot and citroen also rebadge maa.. see previous post, they rebadging Mitsu Outlander.. there also Subaru buying Passo platform and turn into their own Passo.. and also Aston martin rebadging iQ as present for Aston buyers..

      nowday rebadging is save cos for manufacturers especially small one like Proton.. by rebadging also, the company can earn income..

      Why people bashing says Proton stupid and what-so-ever if they rebadge other car as Proton but not bashing Pegueot, Citroen, Subaru, Aston Martin, and Maybach for rebadging????

      can someone give me answer??
      brilliant answer, not stupid answer by otak udang basher..

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  • next up….waja evo..

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  • jaguarXJ on Aug 02, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    for some reason,it looks like a dodge

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  • this is not good…. this will limit the creativity of our nation’s car designing and modeling… malaysian cars need to strive for their own image and not to imitate other people’s work… it’s a good marketing strategy, but in terms of creativity and the willingness to strive for innovation, i would say no to this proton lancer…

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    • sucks on Aug 02, 2010 at 9:00 pm

      Mate,
      Not imitate, it’s a re-badge job.
      Imitate means u copy design your own.
      Our P1 is not capable of doing that. They tried design their own model previously.. but they ended up re-badging.

      Maybe they need another 25 years of protection from the Gomen to grow up?

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      • PM said we need to move from medium income to high income. Designing cars are the high income jobs that we shd be going after. I hope this rebadging thing is just a ‘fill-in-gap’ job as mentioned above by someone. We shd go back to designing our own cars.

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  • LauCN on Aug 02, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    i bet Proton will do what they are pro – ruin the good thing
    ruin the engine, ruin the interior & exterior design, ruin the safety, ruin the features, ruin the price, and eventually, screwed up Malaysian.
    25 years Proton been good at ruin things, 2010 won’t be the exception, not even Mitsubishi offered such good platform, architecture & engineering.
    shame on you, Proton.

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    • sattian on Aug 02, 2010 at 8:53 pm

      for once, i hope proton will use their own brain and develop something on their own… It has been 25 years and they still copying others. Kia, even though many of us look down on it, has leaped many years forward than proton. they are younger than proton. forte was chosen as the best sedan in US. i was happy when they came out with exora, something that they developed on their own but now…. hopeless. because of this, we have to buy good quality cars for very expensive price just to save proton. I bet, most of the fatal accidents involves malaysia car. you are more likely to die if you are driving proton and involved in accident. prove me wrong. phew…stil struggling with power window!!!

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      • autojohndoe on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:41 pm

        bro… read Kia history la… they formed in 1970s…

        are you 2nd SY0H or what?

        talking about power windows…

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      • pacifictuna on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:51 pm

        it’s a strategic partnership. imagine the cost of developing a car from ground up. and proton knew that a waja designed in house wouldn’t be viable since proton’s own performance in the segment wasn’t good enough. they just try to streamline production and focuses more of its resources on better performing area. waja replacement and perdana replacement will most likely be a rebagde while you can look forward to the new persona replacement or exora derivatives if you are looking for more originality.

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      • acerman on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:53 am

        KIAs model lineup was not design by Koreans recently. They were designed by foreigners. Get the facts right bro.
        Get it here:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Schreyer

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  • sucks on Aug 02, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    They will ruin the quality of the Lancer for sure.
    I’m worry about the quality of the local parts supplied by the sub-con.
    Which most of them dun manufacture locally but to source from China and repack it as local.

    Hope we never have the following prob on the new waja again..
    1) Power window switch or motor failure.
    2) Flooding at the rear boot.
    3) Aquarium rear lamp
    etc etc

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    • now i wan to rosak my power window so that i can use power window prob in my comment argument

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    • nazri on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:10 am

      me too… i want aquarium rear lamp pleaseee..
      after 2 years headlamp and rear lamp no aquarium..

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    • Joeyzizul78 on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:13 am

      My lovely 17 years old wira 1.6 xli never had that problem since the 1st day until now…

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  • takkan proton nak buat cop sahaja.. so I think better got NAZA=KIA

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  • Touge-G on Aug 02, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Yezzaa! More Wajalution Upcoming to be chase

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  • bayern on Aug 02, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    for some reason i think original lancer are far more better than this. if lancer price drop i think more people would buy mitsu lancer. :)

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    • ViosUser on Aug 03, 2010 at 3:23 am

      Mitsu already make big bucks from the licensing, no point hard selling their own Lancer anymore. Who get cheated ? Original Lancer owners !!!

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  • hahahaha on Aug 02, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    ceduk mitsu…. apa barang…….????

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    • acerman on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:51 am

      Not ceduk. Rebadge. Did u know that Mitsu is interested to rebadge the Exora.
      Oh ye…. u don’t know that…hahaha…obvious..

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      • takhabis2 on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:32 am

        hahaha…serius?? maknanya exora memang bagus kan? belum tengok exora FL with turbo lagi…phew!!

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  • montana on Aug 02, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    1 think proton lancer got is MANUAL transmission
    hehehe sure mitsu owner will buy proton waja hafkat!

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  • dils5109 on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    you know what guys, i think is really cool to drive this car… it has a padle shift on stereng, like F1 cars.. it’s really berbaloy to have one..

    Good job proton.

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    • T Turbo on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:57 pm

      Dun even think about it. I heard that its powered by the lousy campro 1.6 engine n the awful old gear box.

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      • takhabis2 on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:37 am

        where u heard about it? proton insider? hey, think first before u say anything laa…budus!

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      • corolla_KE70 on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:26 pm

        owhhh, you’ve heard… thats an interesting fact…

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  • Proton got to make the nose rounder like what they did to wira and belakang tukar sikitlah,looks a bit like alfa lah..sigh

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  • At the end of the day…..naza, perodua, inokom and… proton design emblem, wheel cap and bumper only. so sad………….

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  • lemmey on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    Dear Proton,

    dont forget to copy the power window design from mitsu as well.

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  • ZeZoRro on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    whatever people say, malaysian cars become increasing on the road. hope the price slightly different from old waja’s. better get this than current lancer in term of pricing.this imitate design is better than proton own lousy designer.(look at Juwara).

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    • tokan on Aug 04, 2010 at 2:52 pm

      fyi, proton juara is a rebadge from mitsubishi town box. read more please….

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  • JAYMEN on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    I feel its shows how backwords our country is, cant design their own car. Korean can doit, WHY MALAYSIA CANT?

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    • autojohndoe on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:37 pm

      have you been to korea?

      if you been there… you will find lots of rebadge car…

      Like Daewoo did, Renualt-SAmsung did…

      even their Equus L300 looks like a Merc from rear…

      and, it is not we CANT design our car…

      1. design, testing, prototype will enquire development cost…
      2. then, to manufacture also require another cost…

      so, by rebadging, cost is reduced by minimizing #1.

      everybody can do design… but., can they manufacture it succesfully?

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      • JAYMEN on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:52 pm

        I agree with you rebadge is cheaper, But our nation deserve the best! Trust me Mitsubushi is gone come out with a better design to move foward, Leaving us behind with the old model to cherish with.

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        • JAYMEN on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:53 pm

          People are still paying more for japanese car rather then buying a PROTON, anyaway!

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          • corolla_KE70 on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:31 pm

            ift hey want to pay for japanese, let them be. proton are not begging them to buy thier products anyway..

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          • Tiadaid on Aug 03, 2010 at 4:41 pm

            Yeah, they pay more for con job by Japanese

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    • that korean effort for almost 50yrs…malaysian maker half of that…n hyundai hav a lot of money coz hyundai group has divest investment in textile, heavy industry, merchant shipping, department store, banking etc …proton merely a car n bicycle manafacturer..that one we cannot compete

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    • nazri on Aug 02, 2010 at 11:47 pm

      daewoo rebadge GM cars

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    • acerman on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:49 am

      Anyway, KIAs model lineup was not design by Koreans recently. They were designed by foreigners. Get the facts right bro.
      Get it here:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Schreyer

      Even if see the ads of KIA Forte’, it was designed by foreigners and NOT Koreans.
      We should be proud, at least we Malaysian are able to come out with our own designs though some of them are not good looking but we don’t depend much on foreigners.

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      • JAYMEN on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:20 am

        well even if he is a foreigner, its still a korean car, Not PETER SHREYER FORTE, right? I knew the facts about two years ago. While patiently waiting to be on our shores. TO NAZA a JOB well done. Bring good quality and design cars, For average people to buy. Rather then buying a junk. Well NAZA is doing a better REBADGE job then Proton.

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        • acerman on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:00 am

          Than why did u wrote “Korean can doit”…?? U said KOREAN….not FOREIGNERS….
          What say u?

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        • Tiadaid on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:49 pm

          Then by your definition WE HAVE DONE IT. Gen-2, Exora, Saga, Savvy, Persona, all designed by MALAYSIANS!

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      • balloon on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:14 pm

        Dear ACERMAN … please grow up and look at the big picture ! which is more important .To have a beautiful design and produce a beautiful and proper car or fully built and design by a malysian but not up to standard and UGLY!

        Now we have to prove to the world we are a proper car manufacture and can build quality cars and not just aim for a MALAYSIAN CAR ! This is a company and they have to sustain itself. No point talking about MALAYSIAN CAR … it should be a world car or else it will not self sustain by just selling in malaysia ! GET IT AND PLEASE GROW UP OK

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    • takhabis2 on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:42 am

      its temporary replacement to fillt he gap la…new car is coming in 2 years time! sabar k??

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  • Theophilus Chin on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Thanks guys for the compliments.

    I am wondering, will Proton give a sneak-peak during 31 August.

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  • feisal on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    Volvoish..

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    • suparman on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:07 am

      exactly my thoughts as well.

      compare it with this front view of a Volvo….

      http://www.gotbroken.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/2007-volvo-s60-t5-front-view-588×441.jpg

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  • waimak on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    a friend’s friend told me p1 got the deal way better than the current lancer, wats the point selling an old car, but wat it is we hv to wait he said..i like the nose job, kind of menjadi.. i hope its as quiet as the existing lancer..

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  • waimak on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    funny, when proton rebadge the whole nation curse, when peugeot rebadge ‘ion’ nobody cares.. malaysian!

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  • anaconda on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    I believe the lancer wont so loose out on the resell value….lancer still lancer…waja still waja…. just a small thought …any chance this waja replacement model is “shrunk” version of lancer which is available in UK market…??

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  • autojohndoe on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    some ppl here talking about proton to be a true business entity….

    when they do this… ppl said proton is stupid… if like that… is Perodua any better?

    this is for easy money… not much development cost… but fast cashflow can be generated…

    later after that, further car engineering and development will be easier.. coz got a bundle of cash…

    simple business sense also cant see… short sighted or what?

    thats why la Malaysian very slow to developed.. because most malaysian has short vision…

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  • ichukky on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    WAJALANCER 1.8 and 2.0cc with MIVEC engine. Price could be 80K to 100k. that mean my WAJA CPS 1.6 price will not drop badly! yeehaa!!

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  • still better than China brand car.
    If you ever see China brand BYD….depan exactly like Altis belakang like City (macam kereta potong)
    This car still ok lah, depan belakang also like lancer….haha

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  • proton waja badge has other sibling other than lancer…dodge avenger sedan (JS) n chrysler sebling (JS)..same GS platform but with some modification on the platform

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  • Remove Proton logo will look better

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  • ManualHead on Aug 02, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    Hope there will be manual version ……

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  • azmanaw on Aug 02, 2010 at 11:12 pm

    proton susah nak jual kete mahal.
    design boleh, jual belum tentu lagi.
    better buat strategi ni. capture tuk market 80k punyer. ni strategi jangka pendek.
    Jangka panjang yg smart tu.

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  • I have a question:
    Since this Waja replacement is a rebadge Lancer, where will Proton put the signal lever and lamp switch? On the right side of the steering (like the ori lancer) or left side of the steering (like what Proton have been practicing nowadays)?

    I personally prefer them to be on the right side – especially for manual transmission version (if they made them)

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  • speed7791 on Aug 02, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    lancer gt bodykits will be selling like hotcakes! thats for sure!!!

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  • Septzz on Aug 02, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    whoa! what’s on the roof? sunroof maybe?
    oh, wait! just a rendering….sigh…

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  • KCivic on Aug 02, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    every dick in town will be driving the Waja-Lousy-Copycat. Dont hope to buy one at rm70k for 2.0L Mivec engine. Wait long long. Probably the gen-2 or waja Cum-pro engine. This is ridiculous. Mitsubishi stupid to allow this. I have an idea, the replacement model, for Gen2 maybe us Ford Focus body, and for Tiara replacement, why dont try using VW golf gti, that will be the saddest day in Prooton-Boleh-Copy days.. This is so sad, no creativity and originality at all, shud sack the whole Proton R&D and design team. I really pity The original Lancer owners. To replace the Perdana, why dont use the Ford Mondeo body. Proton boleh!!!!! I will not even look at those who drive the Lancer-copy cat car owners. what a disgrace!!!!!

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    • bedos on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:57 am

      tak payahla tengok…dorang pun taknak tengok kau…

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    • Seriously on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:29 am

      Oh ye of little knowledge…

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    • Idiot.

      Just one rebadge after a few cars such as Persona, Satria Neo, Savvy and Others isn’t enough to make it a disgrace.

      It is a collaboration between Proton and Mitsubishi, we get to rebadge Lancer – they get to rebadge our Exora & Persona. I believe other readers has shared some light into this matter as well as into the aspects of its benefits to Proton and also to Mitsubishi.

      By the way, what car are you driving? A HONDA from the 80’s ?

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      • corolla_KE70 on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:43 pm

        i think he ride HONDA C70… thats why he cant even look at any other people driving cars, no matter how cheap the car is..

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      • senzu bean on Aug 03, 2010 at 5:01 pm

        I think he afraid his Civic ‘makan asap’ this Waja-Lancer lol

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    • takhabis2 on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:09 pm

      bangang!

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    • haha.. butt-hurt lancer owner

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  • KCivic on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:08 am

    latest news! Proton giving away free Rolex Watches for first 100 buyers of new Waja replacement…but Rolexes from Chinatown….to suit the mentality of new owners…

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    • molala on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:16 pm

      what is wrong with you?

      rebadge is not a bad thing at all. it save cost as well. even aston martin rebadge toyota iq. Same like other makers.We take daihatsu boon/sirion as ex, single model later rebadge by toyota (passo), subaru(justy) and perodua(myvi). care to explain?

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      • corolla_KE70 on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:45 pm

        relax bro, this is just a kid who need some attention… maybe in class nobody ever knew his presence..

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  • golfgti 8870 on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:13 am

    I hope they wont slot in a campro in that chasis…

    well done proton..another china manufacturer in the making…

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  • 2kereta on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:25 am

    believe me, people will buy this car, if the price is 30k cheaper.

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  • BAWANG on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:38 am

    makes lancer owner suffer…..hahaha…hope new waja can beat kia forte spec..

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  • Upon launching of the car, Proton will announced that this is the result of our Proton Engineers and the Mitsu engineers. where Proton team contribute the design of the
    front grill and bumper.

    This is not a re-badged car. This is the result of both parties working together!!!

    Proton Boleh!!!!!

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    • corolla_KE70 on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:47 pm

      wow.. another tukang nujum who can predicts what proton will announce in their marketing speech.. another human with octopus dna maybe…

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  • sawisimen on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:54 am

    aik…. lain je design proton ni. model ni mungkin model gantian perdana yang di import dari jepun khas untuk kegunaan pegawai kerajaan yang di maksudkan oleh syed zainal dalam akhbar BHauto minggu lepas. U all boleh check dalam akhbar tu. apa yg dimaklum dr kwn2 sy di proton modelnya lain dari ni. design lagi cantik dan lain dari yang lain. enjin 1.8 cps.

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    • this is not a real one.. just an impression by Theophilus Chin..

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  • why complain.
    now everyone can drive an evo x at a fraction of the cost.
    syabas proton. the end result should be a vehicle that is of good value for money, of good build quality and something that excites the market.
    there is no shame in rebadging so long as it translates into a model that will deliver the bottomline and profits for proton.
    The introduction of such a model as an interim and immediate response to market demands, will even buy the proton engineers/designers a bit more time (perhaps 3-4 years) before the introduction of the next fully-malaysian designed vehicle/engine.
    just be extra careful of the cvt transmission option as cvt is not really known for its reliability and durability.
    syabas.

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    • SquarePetrolHead on Aug 07, 2010 at 9:08 pm

      … unless its a Nissan CVT… i hear their version is super realiable… so much so they give 5 years warranty on it alone… Lotus also have CVT but we never hear Proton even trying to tap the tech to use with the Camp-X-Pro Engine. I tell you all if Proton had the balls to jump into that tech, we Malaysians will be enjoying our New Sagas alot more…

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  • JEPower on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:05 am

    Based on Jaydee Power 2010 quality survey report, proton quality level already very closed to p2 quality level. Both are worst than industrial average level.

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  • ah keong on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:23 am

    Ah Keong here ar,
    me leh pretty sure when ppl get the new car straight away go to sunway change evo x body kit lo.. y not leh proton make their own style face lips haa??

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  • 1Malaysia on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:34 am

    Good Copy cat…….but how’s the quality???????

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  • change the rear lamp please…

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  • Farfromhome on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:45 am

    I feel proud of Malaysia each time I see Left hand drive Gen 2, Persona, Waja, Wira, Kancil, Kalisa in Egypt. Malaysia brand automobile and electronic have good reputation here. Gen 2 is one of their favorite. There is nothing wrong rebadge other car to save cost, while the life span of a new car model is short.
    Unfortunately, the numbers of Malaysian cars are not growing over the years. The market is flooded with more ‘futuristic’ design Korean and Chinese cars. Locals are saying that Malaysian cars are costly to maintain, the out dated model should be one of those.

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    • losaa on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:30 am

      wat so proud? if you see the car in USA la, proud. See in those Ulu ulu place, means the car is for cheapo

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  • uncle seanny on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:56 am

    I think this car may not come cheap…….
    1. to protect the interest of Mitsu Lancer buyer in M’sia
    2. to protect the Mitsu brand itself in M’sia
    3. Price should be in the region of RM80k ++
    4. P1 can fill up the market of cheap car with their persona & saga
    5. no point selling it at RM50k – 60k to dilute the sale of its persona.

    My 2 cent opinion lol

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    • definately! agree~~~

      it will sell just like Perodua Nutica / Toyota rush in m’sia market…..

      If not everyone go to buy Proton Cheap Lancer and modify/rebadge to Mit’s Lancer….den how?? @_@”

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    • uncle seanny on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:27 pm

      1. another logic (strategy) in rebadging this lancer I “THINK” is to level up their WAJA sense of appeal
      2. the waja is suppose to be a Corolla, Civic beater, but the current spec & the pricing making it sort like a Vios, City beater.
      3. with this rebadging it can create an impression that the appeal of “WAJA” is as good as a Corolla, Civic.
      4. when the REAL Waja is introduce, then P1 can sell it at a price slightly lower with other competitor.
      5. IF NOW P1 INTRODUCE A REAL “original” WAJA…….will you buy it at RM80K++ even though it is as good as a corolla, civic? when even their RM70k++ Exora (a bigger car) is not selling like a hot cake……..

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  • ViosUser on Aug 03, 2010 at 3:18 am

    Repost :

    To design a totally new model Proton have to spend at least RM 1 billion. Proton cash flow in very bad now at rebadge is the only way to survive.
    Proton make a smart move this time because this car is going to make a hit. Anyway in long run……Proton is lost!

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    • corolla_KE70 on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:49 pm

      walawehhh this guys can predict proton’s future, not even by reading their financial report… he is more genius that Carlos Ghosn !!!

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  • very nice car…

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  • thumb down if you agree with me on Aug 03, 2010 at 7:22 am

    oo please come with all time 4wd system…so I can convert it and look like geniune Evo 10

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  • Prof. Ir. Tan Sri Dato' Sri. Dr. Ar. Ali Bin Abu on Aug 03, 2010 at 7:45 am

    Honestly, i think Proton and Mitsubishi both in win-win situation…

    Proton get:
    – proton got Lancer model, can replace a model without R&D cost that usually cost about hundred million RM.
    – at the same time, proton can gain some profit if the lancer re-badge model sold very well, like what proton Wira have done previously.
    – Persona and Exora user should be proud when Mitsubishi launch our model as their re-badge model later. There will be so many accesories that can be add into local Exora and Persona… maybe they can slot-in Mitsubishi engine too..

    Mitsu get:
    – Exora and Persona. maybe a major facelift like Europestar done to Gen-2..but still ok.. Mitsu also no need to spend much in R&D..
    – Mitsu can sell their space parts in malaysia very well…like previous wira..
    – Mitsu also can get TUNED their Lancer handling with LOTUS expertise, the lancer handling will be so much better than previous one..

    So, both parties will definitely gain an advantages in Mitsu-Proton collaboration…
    And for sure..Malaysian got LANCER with Malaysian Price…

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    • Neutral on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:33 am

      lets just cross our finger 1st before saying it is a mutual benefits !!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Feel Cheated on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:55 am

      Yes you are right ! and THE ONLY LOSERS ARE CURRENT LANCER USERS !
      They should group themselves and SUE PROTON in the consumer tribunal court !

      A cousin bought an apartment in Kepong, after one year the developer decrese the price for other units because the sales was bad. My cousin and other early birds sue the developer for manipulating housing price AND THEY WON !

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      • tokan on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:26 am

        hahahaha….very funny. They should sue Mitsubishi, not Proton.

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      • molala on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:20 pm

        how can you sue proton when they have agreement with mitsu?

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      • nazri on Aug 03, 2010 at 2:44 pm

        no need to sue la.. mitsu owner also lega oil filter, service car now cheaper. mechanic (SC or kedai biasa) pun banyak sbb bila proton buat sure diorang rajin kaji

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    • nighttrain on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:08 am

      Agreed. Mitsu will rebadge Exora and Persona in South American market. It shows that Mitsu trust Proton as a good manufacturer too. This car will be low volume, going at RM80-85K. Just like the rare Nautica. I guess they’re hoping people complaint a lot about the price too.
      Anyway, good render, Theo. Now if you could produce a hand drawn fully modded version the way Chip Foose does it..

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    • losaa on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:26 am

      why dont we just remove proton, and open up the market, and proton start making cars for mitsu.

      So consumer gets

      — a varieties of cars at global market price.
      — proton engineer can work as mitsubishi engineer.
      –no waste of tax money on so called R&D
      –ppl getting safer car for their money.

      Can we do that? this is win win win. not taxing our citizen, and once in a while rebatch a car for a little cheaper price, and tell us this is 3 win condition. You know what Ir means?? smart x?

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      • tokan on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:22 am

        oo..yeah???then if MItsu closed their operation in Malaysia (it’s posibble), what will happen to the workers? makan pasir kah?

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      • MoFaz on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:28 pm

        if japanese & koreans have similar thinking like you, do you think we could have Honda, Toyota, Hyundai & Kia now?
        no need to develop car la … simply rebadge GM & Chrysler

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      • nazri on Aug 03, 2010 at 2:14 pm

        its like closing shop and then let foreign ppl work for us.. do u hv money to paythem? its cheap maybe but the money once give to workers they will transfer to their own country. lama2 u abis wang utk bayar them then how your economy??
        better we buy own product even it design/platform sharing/rebadge. at least not all money goes to their country.

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      • Enginya on Aug 04, 2010 at 4:23 am

        What will happen if the G still maintaining the price or inrease the fuel price?

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    • ViosUser on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:24 pm

      You mention :

      “Persona and Exora user should be proud when Mitsubishi launch our model as their re-badge model later”

      Really !?? How much Proton have to pay Mitsubishi to place a Mitsubishi logo on the Persona and Exora ?

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      • nazri on Aug 03, 2010 at 2:15 pm

        really la mr ViosUser.. u live where maa.. dont read paultan blog or newspaper ke?

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        • ViosUser on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:25 pm

          ya can u please tell me the answer ? How much Proton have to pay Mitsubishi to place a Mitsubishi logo on the Persona and Exora ?

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          • Tiadaid on Aug 04, 2010 at 9:42 am

            They exchange the Lancer for Exora & Persona. Read more!

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    • inderaloka on Aug 05, 2010 at 7:47 pm

      Pecah perut aku gelak tengok nama mamat ni… memang kelakar. Sorry bro, bukan gelak ejek tapi memang lucu. ‘IR’ tu aku tau la maksud dia ingénieur (abbreviation for the title of Engineer), tapi ‘AR’ tu pangkat untuk apa plak ek? Peace…

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  • edperdana on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:18 am

    Xcellent Theo..would move the numberplate to the left and make the ‘mouth’ bigger in front ..more grrr..!: )

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  • Neutral on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:29 am

    Good news to all AH BENG out there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice design simple because a re-badge of LANCER nothing to shout about, just wait and see the quality of the car and the engine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • azrai on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:31 am

    Damn TV3. They took theo’s rendering and ‘erasing’ all those credits to him. paul, need to do something on this matter. Plagirism cannot be tolerate.

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    • TheophilusChin on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:20 am

      They did? *sigh*

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    • nighttrain on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:27 am

      can anyone post the news clip? saman dia Theo!

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    • rickyll on Aug 03, 2010 at 4:23 pm

      Come on TV3, please respect other’s effort and have the courtesy to give credit where it is due. Be a responsible corperate citizen.

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    • neveraproton on Aug 03, 2010 at 7:03 pm

      Biasa la TV3. Cut and paste. Head of News pun lebih kurang je.

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    • inderaloka on Aug 05, 2010 at 7:51 pm

      Saman je TV3 suku tu Theo. Aku memang dah lama tak tengok TV3 suku especially Buletin Utama.

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  • azrai on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:33 am

    This new Waja’s part will be localised. This mean local vendor manufactured all the parts. Mitsu then will use this Proton to export to other ASEAn country. So for our economy it is a good bargain.

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  • alf147 on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:45 am

    the actual unit of the waja replacement model is almost like this….saw one red color with proton emblem previously.with the price,it shud be a hot cake sale and heard comes for two variants of engine..1.8 n 2.0.

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  • siksa on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:14 am

    the nose need to be change,so it doesn’t look much like the LancerGT.

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  • Ahmad on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:22 am

    If proton can make wagon from this model. That would be different!

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  • car-I-want on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:26 am

    to proton: please sell it under 70k.. with turbocharger technology..please2~~~

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    • molala on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:22 pm

      in your dream. lol

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    • keyboard.rosak on Aug 03, 2010 at 5:52 pm

      even normal lancer only got NA (4B11) engine,
      only EVO got the 4B11T engine.

      u think mitsu gonna give proton the turbo engine?

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  • ahmadzaki on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:31 am

    who cares is proton? as long as i am driving mit lancer… just like inception but this is real.

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  • littlebeetle on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:32 am

    it’s the same method they have been using all these years.
    Copy………and do a cosmetic change and they call themselves maker

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  • aliff effendi on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:32 am

    klu waja rupe lagu ni la,bkn kato molek,mmg mengancam la……

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  • pelams on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:44 am

    hope no more window power problem..

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  • mobil on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:48 am

    Looks like proton waja is a mixture of designs from Lancer / Volvo……….proton no engineer to design own car? However, the looks is one issue, how about the quality later?

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    • you can complaint but cant read the title? it’s rendering from theo.

      RENDERING
      RENDERING
      RENDERING

      i hope you read what i typed.

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      • mobil on Aug 04, 2010 at 11:06 am

        Please read properly, I’m NOT complaining. Pls read the earlier article as well with the picture taken in Penang regarding the waja replacement base on Lancer. Of course your artcle is RENDERING. The earlier article PICTURE is taken from REAL car. I just gave my comment after reading both articles. Pls see the issue holistically and not just confine to these article only.

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  • next days
    many evo on the road!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Civic EK on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:45 am

    i might think of buying when it come out, or might be waiting for d new persona? or i just wait for d new honda! :D

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  • rodimus on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:49 am

    Hope that P1 can maintain the good quality of the car n won’t cut the specs too far…..

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  • sahimi on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:01 am

    cantik kete ni..kalau betul la ini rupanya waja baru, memang sold out la.

    tapi,,,,,bila la proton nak belajar berdikari?slogan je berani berubah..tapi masih duduk di takuk lama…masih perlukan bimbingan, sokongan kerajaan& kompeni lain..ntah bila la proton nak berada sebaris toyota dan honda…

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    • corolla_KE70 on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:53 pm

      macam mana anda tahu proton msih di takuk lama? sebab masih jual saga/isware base fiore? model – model baru tu apa dia? macam mana proton nak maju kalau kebanyakan rakyat malaysia pemikiran macam saudara…

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      • cikugunya on Aug 04, 2010 at 9:51 am

        model baru proton, kualiti dia sepadan ke dngan harga?kenapa jual kat luar negra, kuiliti tiptop tp dlm negra kualiti teruk tapi harga mahal..proton hidup arini pon sbb rakyat mesia ni terpaksa beli,,tu je kete baru yg murah dan sesuai.

        cuba tengok dr segi kualiti..

        model2 baru?kenapa perlu copy kompeni lain punya???tak pandai nak design sendiri?takde keyakinan?

        proton mundur bukan sebb pemikiran rakyat mesia..mereka sendiri yang taknak berubah…dok harap kerajaan backup je …kalau tak backup dah lama bangkrap..

        jual kereta yang tak berkualiti pada rakyat mesia..baru beli ini rosak itu punah..masih berlaku..cek la dlm forum yang guna kete proton..

        tak caya pegi la mintak keje proton..tau la suasana dlm tu mcmane..kompem tak lama keje kat sana, nak berenti..pegi dulu mintak keje baru tau..

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        • corolla_KE70 on Aug 04, 2010 at 1:48 pm

          bunyi bercakap macam awak ni kerja kat proton? awak dah tau situasi kat sana? so sekarang ni dah resign dan jadi cikgu ke?

          rakyat terpaksa beli? kenapa tak tanya perodua? juga jual kereta murah dan ber”kualiti” chasis nya. bila eksiden, tengok keadaan macam mana?

          hanya model ni saja proton joint venture dgn mitsu setelah lama design kereta sendiri, kenapa nak bising? model lain proton design, tak puji lansung? chasis myvi diguna pakai oleh daihatsu, toyota dan subaru, kenapa tak bising?

          kerajaan backup? kenapa tak tanya raja AP? itu lagi senang, tunggu saja kereta kat pelabuhan, tak perlu RnD, buka kilang utk pasang saja..

          isu kereta rosak, tu isu lapuk. ferrari 458 italia pun dah dua biji terbakar, punca mechanical failure yg sama, tak ada bunyi pun customer bising? kereta toyota pun buat hal, kenapa rakyat jepun tak bising?

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  • matthew on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:03 am

    buy Proton better i save money to buy Korea or Japan Car …….
    Proton car always got problem , Service Centre poor service

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    • corolla_KE70 on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:55 pm

      yeahh.. you go buy that… nobody ask you to buy proton..

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    • turbonatics on Aug 03, 2010 at 2:56 pm

      bro…even toyota recall their car bcouse of its mech faulty..shame of you la my friend

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    • quattro on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:06 pm

      yes it true > proton shoud copy cat how honda 3s served their cutomer. during waiting time to service & after service > proton mgmt please “turun padang ” and visit how proton 3s operate then compare it with honda or toyota as a reference.

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  • pk252 on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:14 am

    main fatal point of proton was their QC and poor SC service. basically i feel comfortable with proton design but not their plastic material uses.

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    • molala on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:46 pm

      true, i like proton design. but not material quality. sometimes I feel old wira interior is much better than proton current model.

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      • protonplsmaju on Aug 03, 2010 at 6:45 pm

        that you’ll need to blame their vendor…the claimed to be the best ‘APM’…..stupid APM…..we have cheap proton parts because of you…..and ppl scold proton for your cheap parts……compare benz and beemer of imported and locally assembled….or others….we have cheaper quality parts because of these stupid vendors……
        and now the gov decided to let them earn more….

        stupid APM….

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        • corolla_KE70 on Aug 04, 2010 at 1:53 pm

          you were right bro, mostly problem are caused by vendors, own by datuks that is the cronies..

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  • techboy_88 on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:18 am

    why proton should rebadge a car that is currently sold in msia as mitsubishi lancer? not enough money to hire a designer for the Waja model? proton claimed they have achieved financial gains, which means they should have enough money for thier R&D and car designing. proton, why don’t you employ our local uni graduates to design cars for you?

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    • JAYMEN on Aug 03, 2010 at 5:43 pm

      Yes i agree, Bro is showing the whole world we are not capable. We have the best people with the best engineers waiting to be picked in our country. I just that proton are not looking at them.

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      • Enginya on Aug 04, 2010 at 4:10 am

        Our enginya has no know-how, how to get know-how?, hire jap 1 people equal hire 10 local enginya.

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    • Vader on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:04 pm

      Why not, because naza was sucessful with naza ria, P 206 and now forte. So, have to follow the underdogs. Money for R&D, i dont think so cos all year round sponsor here sponsor there and sponsor u konw who…..

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  • shawn on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:24 am

    i dont like this as proton just copy and paste the body and design of new lancer, what i can say its suck

    why i need spend rm80-90k just for a proton car that i know the quality is not good as i used and drive my waja, since 2002, the parts definitely will come from the low material, and from local vendor and then will get copy and paste also from Taiwan or China, and at the end you will always change your spare parts.

    I am driving lancer GT also, instead of spending rm80-90k for below 2.0 liter engine, its better for me to spend for Lancer GT or EX rather spending rm90k for new proton “Lancer”, its not worth for the money, go and get Honda City, its better..

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  • Just Me on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:36 am

    COPY & PASTE no identity of Proton. Better buy other car not proton cause of material quality. With the price of new Waja u can buy other car with good quality and performance

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  • lemmey on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:39 am

    lancer owners must be careful otherwise their sport rim, bumper, grille will be stolen by new waja owner’s lancer-wannabe..

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    • nazri on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:01 pm

      JGN tuduh owner la bro.. ini tak baik.. owner waja ntah2 lagi banyak gaji dari yg pakai lancer cuma dia low profile je

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  • I’ll buy one.

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  • arsenaleleven on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:42 am

    aku nk angkat sebijik since hage juz RM69,548.00 utk
    “PROTON NEW WAJALANCER 1.8AT B-LINE SOLID IVORY WHITE”

    vios skrg pon dh 7rat byr bln2..kalu konpom amek
    waja nih dh dkt seriban stgh..pergh..jgn myk naik
    smpai 2hengget lebeh segelen sudah..sempit le
    aku gamaknye..

    kalu aku ode awal taun dpn busuk2 pon capgohmeh ph pat kot..

    tp kalu informer aku bgtau myk naik smpai 3hengget mmg nk kene angkat
    “PERODUA MYVI DAZZZLIN PINK KALER UNLIMITLESS EDITION”
    pon xpe..xdpt lancerwajakaka pinkymyvi pon begune ape..

    kire ok ape p1 edar ltk RM69k je..takat enjin 1.8 bkn bley titik
    “TOYOTA VIOS 1.5E” aku skrg nih pon..tp bley ar bini aku wat
    pegi pasa..hntr anak gi taska..ulg alik selangor-muar..

    kire xdehal ar..almost setarap dan vios le..honda city
    pasnih konpom bungkus..gulong kapet le..
    not bad ar new waja nih coz takat replace bumper dpn blkg..
    side mirror persona elegance..tail lite led..
    full body skirtin..rim 18″..spoiler gaban..
    nappa leather seat..sunroof..hud fiber..
    abs 6bijik..ebd..ba..tinted 99%..

    wa caya sama lu la p1..jom geng pakat ramai2
    angkat sebijik sorg 1..pinkymyvi kite wat 2nd car..
    konpom cun..taun 2011 p1 new wajalancer 1.8
    akan jadik latest kete bohjan mengreplacekn tmpt satria gti
    utk mengorat para2 bohsia malaysia dlm kehidupan yg penoh warnawarni inih..

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    • sun-sun on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:15 pm

      hahahha.. i like..

      tp lu masyuk blehla..

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    • MoFaz on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:25 pm

      apakebendekomerepeknih?

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    • montana on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:47 pm

      mende lu merepek ni labu

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    • hey! what are you talking about man? What is this language? Why you always talk about p1? wht is it? what i now it is internet provider p1 wimax! nothing with cars!

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      • p1 p2 on Aug 03, 2010 at 2:20 pm

        ko mmg sengal geng

        p1 = proton
        p2 = produa

        sume org pon tau ma even bdk kecik

        ko cam kurg cerdik bab automotive ni

        mayb ko baru nk follow coz baru je dgr2 cite new wajalancer nih

        ko bdk baru blaja ko dh slh aku ajakn

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        • hey what are you talking man? what is sengal? I’m from New Zealand you know New Zealand mannnn

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          • UZAIR on Aug 05, 2010 at 2:05 pm

            yeah right…. new zealand my ass… u should be ashame of yourself. i have new zealand friend and his english is not like urs at all. this section is for those who want to give comment about cars. ITS NOT AN ENGLISH CLASS!!

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          • Then i will say i m from Russia? u know where is Russia? ;p

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          • Kepala boot oh hang New Zeland! Pay-luck! We’re talking about cars and nothing has got to do with that P1 Wimax thing. If you truly are from New Zealand Old Tree, how could you know about P1 Wimax?? Wimax is fully Malaysian company. I don’t think there is P1 in New Zealand!! And New Zealanders do not speak like you with that ‘maannn maannnn’ language thingy Pay-luck! Boot Oh! New Zealand konon! Poooodaaahhhh!! Ingat orang mangkok sangat ka??

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      • nazri on Aug 03, 2010 at 2:46 pm

        wah dah kawin pun nk men bohsia ke bro..
        insaf2la

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    • Bro..mn dpt harge???
      x kn B-LINE je kot..yg len2 bagitau la jgk..

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    • corolla_KE70 on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:58 pm

      pergi balik belajar bahasa malaysia betul betul.. tak mahu tulis proper bahasa, WROTE IN ENGLISH !!!

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    • turbonatics on Aug 03, 2010 at 2:54 pm

      bro…ko rakyat negara mane? cakap tu biar berakal la,npk educated sket…cakap takde hala tuju…bohsia la,ape la…ntah2 ko tu dlu bohjan kot..sokonglah sket,at least proton dah ada kemajuan…dok bangga sangat ngan toyota ko tu…jom try kat sepang ngn aku kalau berani..kalau tak mampu,cakap je la…jangan nak tunjuk “pandai” sangat dalam ni…memalukan…stupid basher

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  • ABTguy on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:48 am

    I think the design is ok, coz it’s easy to swap the front bumper to Lancer one :D

    Ha Ha

    But if Proton is asking for a price that is too near Vios/M2/Fiesta level, better loan more to buy the non-national brand to have peace of mind lah.

    Proton is notorious for poor quality, if the MD wants to revive this, ditch the whole purchasing team and existing suppliers !

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  • Laughter the best medicine on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    They are so happy now, later they will cry….

    http://www.mitsubishi-mloc.com/html/committee.html

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  • The Unicons on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    Well ABTguy, hot topics… Toyota recalled 13th times in 2010….for its poor quality!

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  • cIT.... on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    Once i was kaw-kaw banned by p1 fans coz I support for P2 effort giving people want they want (affordable car with low maintainance).. P1 banned me tell tat P2 copy cat la, no R&D la… Now P1 do it with Lancer and those jerk tat banned me sooo pround with this car…

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    • SquarePetrolHead on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:27 pm

      Errrr… who are you that P1 should even be bothered to have banned you? Perasan sagat lah budak nih… >.<

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    • turbonetics on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:10 pm

      brother…cakap pakai akal…tak reti cakap omputih,cakap BAHASA sudah…ko ada nampak kereta rekabentuk “original” perodua tak?smua copy paste aka photoshoppe!

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  • pro-TAN on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    This is a good move!

    Even if rebadge, you must be smart to get the right car for rebadge!

    For proton to get the lancer for rebadge is better than getting other model that is less popular n attractive.

    I believe this car will sell alot. Don’t care if it rebadge s**t or what as long as the price is right, it will sell. Couple with option of extended warranty to 5 years this will be hot like ‘pisang goreng panas’!

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    • SquarePetrolHead on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:25 pm

      But one thing I as a Proton supporter n a taxpayer, I was @#$^$ confused & angry when Proton first introduced the Wira based on the Lancer. The original Saga was a Lancer (Fiore, but a Lancer nonetheless), so they should have used the Wira-Lancer for the replacement Saga back then. Now, what irks me a little is that they are now using the new Lancer for another model range, the Waja. It sucks a little if you ask me as there does not seem to be any continuity in the product development. No rationality in terms of the generation-tree.

      By the looks of it the one any only TRUE Malaysian auto product may well be the Gen-2/Persona line. As someone said somewhere in the comments, lets hope the new Persona from ItalDesign will be really something to shout about.

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  • Machoman on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    This is how proton create their revenue to spend for their R&D..

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  • The Unicons on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    Proton also have quality issues… name one manufacturer come out with perfect (100%) car. The answer is NONE.

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    • nabill on Aug 03, 2010 at 2:41 pm

      kinda agree , as long as it has a interior with a proper fit and finish and decend quality , it will be reflected in the sales…..

      mechanically should be proven since mitsubishi been using the 1.8 and 2.0 mivec engine few yrs already….

      plz proton , since this model u havent done much to produce , concentrate on the interior quality abit , otherwise local vendors will get cursed 24/7

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      • alvinwwq on Aug 04, 2010 at 7:39 am

        ‘that you’ll need to blame their vendor…the claimed to be the best ‘APM’…..stupid APM…..we have cheap proton parts because of you…..and ppl scold proton for your cheap parts……compare benz and beemer of imported and locally assembled….or others….we have cheaper quality parts because of these stupid vendors……
        and now the gov decided to let them earn more….

        stupid APM….’

        taken from post above….
        we should curse them la….proton design it but producing it?those dude la…..they see only $$$..see no quality…

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        • myhumble view on Aug 14, 2010 at 12:05 pm

          yeah .. ur right.. proton vendor s??k, .. they don’t want to improve themselves.. They keep on supplying low quality material.. i don’t like proton interior quality.. but i do like their design.. please proton… change ur vendor..

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  • atifjeelan on Aug 03, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    what happen to the lancer fortis?

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  • i thought proton will use the taiwan based lancer body line…

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  • dpt gak la rakyat biase kat msia rase pakai lancer wannabe walaupun brand proton…xkan nak pakai lancer gt pakai gune duit pencen kot…nak tggu turun duti import pon x guna duti eksais pulak naik

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  • myfuad on Aug 03, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    i hope proton more creative…walaupun guna lancer punya…tapi rupanya mesti tidak mengambar kan lancer…

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  • bapak on Aug 03, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    kalo betul kete ni pkai 4B10 MIVEC, aku nk tgk dak2 SC proton counter bile ader problem ngan kete nie… kalo stakat teknologi n ilmu cincai2 je..lupe kan la

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    • nazri on Aug 03, 2010 at 6:52 pm

      blh blaja .. kalau tak pakai enjin tu takde la nk explore..

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      • bapak on Aug 04, 2010 at 2:15 pm

        kalo power window nye hal pun take ages to solve..ni kan mende len..BOLEH land..boleh..boleh..boleh blah

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  • orengkelat on Aug 03, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Aris anuar ada lagi tak kat Proton………..

    Lama tak jupo……demo ?

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  • arulkay on Aug 03, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    i donno but this photoshop pic look weird to me……..juz waiting the real model…..hope it look much batter from this pic…..amin….

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  • amirad on Aug 03, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    Ditch the floating horizontal grill. Instead, put vertical grille right down to the bumper lower air scoop. Now, its an Audi wannabe.

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  • babyboy on Aug 03, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    now can call wajavo..

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  • Ah Peng on Aug 03, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    Hello Theo,

    How is the back look like? Don’t give it a name like “Waja Gen-2” then people get confused, is it a Waja of a Gen-2… :P

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  • bystander on Aug 03, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    this post is about the rendering, only 1 mistakes, the rims on the disguised car is much smaller, i think the final product will look very much the same, good job!

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  • What the F with you guys (F ing bashers!) The reason why they re badge because they just want to replace the ugly current waja models with a far way better looking replacement model…and since most of the ah beng transform their car to mitsu wanna be..Proton trade EXORA and PERSONA with mitsu..and in return mitsu give proton, Lancer…This is Bussiness, so why waste their money on the very niche market car segment,Its a smart move indeed…at the same time proton engineers can concentrate more on the other models which needs R&D on which YOU BASHERS dont know a thing and keep saying “donno how to make own ca ater 25 years?r” We have SAGA,PERSONA,EXORA and others that proton develop …so WHAT The F? …this is all bussiness, Other car manufacturers do JV and share platforms and even rebadge from others…proton is the only one left out before this because so little JV,share platforms or rebagde…so proton is currently taking a really startegic step ..they hav big plans..trust me…proton have all the big boys to share with,lotus new management line up…this must be good…just believe in our countrymen! DSZ is a good leader..GO PROTON!

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    • ViosUser on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:12 pm

      Counting the number of ‘F’ in your paragraph I can conclude that you are an uncivilised loser. No matter how ‘basher’ we are you are more moron than us.

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      • Tiadaid on Aug 04, 2010 at 7:56 am

        Nope, you bashers are close minded moron. He’s got a point but bashers often ignore them.

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      • corolla_KE70 on Aug 04, 2010 at 2:06 pm

        rather that using your time to count his F word, better to use that time to work and earn more money, after all you a buying rather expensive cars than us average joe… so you need to pay more what… !!

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      • u bark like a dog…but only using vios…still a cheap japaneze crap and plastics and look like dugong…haha

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    • quattro on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:46 pm

      hope proton MD read and understand the vision of malaysian. to have better quality and more safer car develop by proton whether rebadge or brand new.
      really hope to have proton golf 1.4 tdi sooner or later. make a satria a good competitor to myviii…..

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  • toyxiscute on Aug 03, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    kereta buatan malaysia no more…

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  • freddo on Aug 03, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    great!!!!!!!!!

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  • not bad..

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  • StigFan on Aug 03, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Why people bising2 when Proton rebadged Lancer…Peugeot n Citroen also rebadged Mitsubishi Outlander. It’s all about partnership and changing of idea. It doesn’t mean that Proton just simply copy the whole thing and just did a minor change. See those link below about the partnership between Mitsubishi and Peugeot/Citroen

    http://paultan.org/2010/06/06/psa-peugeot-citroen-may-rebadge-new-mitsubishi-1-0l-to-1-3l-compact-car/

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  • samsul112 on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Like it or not, this car will be big a hit in the local market if its gonna be priced at 80k.

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  • balloon on Aug 03, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    Now i think we should all think of a GOOD NAME for this car and maybe we can WIN one instead of BUY one !

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  • tis car got turbo or not??
    huahua..

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  • pemangkin on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    wit the prize below rm55k incuding insurans..plus start/stop ignition, abs/ebd/ shiftronic/ 17 inch alloy/ 2.0 neo engine(which beat a chopper) wit VVTc / full leather seat / V-kool tinted / tune by lotus / sunroof / gps/ DVd player/ I will buy ..

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  • LoveMalaysia on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    Peugeot, Citroen or other rebadge same quality after but our rebadge these things cut that things cut finally left basic……somemore the price not cheap.

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  • In Case anyone forget, our Gen 2 is now a rebadged “Young Man” in china

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    • kodok on Aug 04, 2010 at 9:22 am

      ya lor… no coverage about that nowadays… how much do Proton gain from that…
      maybe they should produce documentary for 25th anniversary about Proton car outside Malaysia.

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  • pros_di on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    huhuh this is great if this is what it looks like then i am getting one for my self
    i hear the price starts only rm 80k so not bad for a 2.0

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  • TV3 unprofesional on Aug 03, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    i cant believe tv3 news just ripped of the pictures from paultan.org without even crediting it to the site. That is so unprofessional.
    And im sure that it is even illegal!!!!!!! since paul’s site and pictures are copyrighted

    http://www.tv3.com.my/Shows/EpHighlight.aspx?MasterID=190%20&ShowID=231&&MenuID=2&SubMenuID=1&TemplateID=1&EpID=35535&VideoID=54209

    watch after 19 mins 31 seconds

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    • TheophilusChin on Aug 04, 2010 at 3:21 pm

      Thanks pal. *sigh*

      Last time The Star “took” my Saga teksi picture, now TV3 pulak!

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    • act, to add to the list, not only The Star or TV3.
      In Malay papers, Wikipedia is widely use to define things.
      Scarily unprofessionals!

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  • Suggest that Proton shoud just start the rebranding exercise for the whole range of vehicle and become a CKD assembler. That will make cars affordable.

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  • sranua on Aug 04, 2010 at 8:14 am

    I believe every reason for proton to use Lancer as one ofs products line up is purely on business and its got nothing to do with national sentiments or shown its incapable of producing a real Malaysian design. The Savvy, Saga, Gen 2, Persona and Exora is their trademark of Malaysia Boleh.
    But on how and why few readers can’t understand this in term of business matter, I guess they love or hate Proton beyond the rational minds or simply to say ‘ pure basher’..so its got nothing to do with this type of consumer thinking, IQ or their buying power. So let it be.

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  • shawn on Aug 04, 2010 at 9:09 am

    i dun even care what proton wanna do, but please come with their own ideas, new waja following with lancer design and body just a strategy to sell their cars in 2011, with the price rm80-90k above and with the interest rate 4.x% above, we could buy a better and more quality cars, mazda, honda, nissan, toyota..as what i can see their target to youngsters,

    lancer gt from japan originally price rm38k and after the tax the price is rm124k ( included road tax), and please compared the price that proton will sell for the new waja lancer, is it worth fr the money?, plus its just a technology wanna be lancerian.

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  • keretapi on Aug 04, 2010 at 10:15 am

    Good job proton. However, why not make new model, i means fresh design. Proton have a lot of designers, what are they doing? if proton designer unable just hire other designer such as Proton Emas or Chip Foose etc. just ask them draw on paper (with royalty) and let realized it!!! Damn!

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  • bolehlah on Aug 04, 2010 at 10:40 am

    and finally, the term WAJALUTION can make a little more sense rather than being an embarrasment =)

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  • oldwira on Aug 04, 2010 at 10:44 am

    toyota, honda are quality cars……. crappsss!!!! facts prove to me nothing special about these junks

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  • izack04 on Aug 04, 2010 at 11:04 am

    Macam macam kutukan yang saya baca dalam forum ini, secara halus mahupun terang terangan. Pada pendapat saya, rekabentuk baru waja ini menarik hati, garang dan pasti mudah untuk dijual.

    Namun apa yang saya kesalkan, kenapa perlu pakai rekabentuk orang lain, kenapa tidak pakai basis yang telah ada seperti persona? Saya lihat ramai yang membeli persona kerana rekabentuk yang baik, adakah designer kita tak kompeten?

    Kenapa pula pihak mitsubishi dapat 2 kereta untuk di”rebadge”kan?Bukan 1 on 1 basis…

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    • MoFaz on Aug 06, 2010 at 12:07 am

      tak ada salahnya bagi 2 model pada mitsu. target proton ialah untuk membawa persona & exora ke negara amerika selatan, seperti brazil, argentina, mexico dan lain lain. kalau proton nak bukak sales & marketing kat sana, mkn byk masa & banyak kos. Mitsubishi dah lama bertapak di sana. jadi, kalau 2 model ni di rebadge sebagai mitsu dan laris, proton akan mampu memperoleh “economy of scale” yang sangat diperlukan.
      kalau lah aku ni bos mitsubishi, for sure aku akan pilih model yg laris utk direbadge. buat apa ambik model yg susah nak jual… nnt kedua-dua proton & mitsu sama2 rugi je.

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    • devil on Aug 20, 2010 at 10:02 pm

      ini salah satu taktikal bisnes la bro… bape byk da designer kite bikin kete bro..jualan mcm pisang goreng panas lagik…ade la taktik proton nak buat tu.. MD proton bukan budak sekolah darjah 1 yg berfikiran mcm ko tu.. keke… kalau tak hebat, takde la dia jadi MD..

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  • Uncommon Sense on Aug 04, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    RM80K for a Proton…nope. A good 2nd-hand 2006 Altis still a great value for money.

    Below RM70K car budget, you can waste it all worth any junk crap. But above RM70K-RM80K sorry lah you all STUPID FOOLS still cannot see other better car brands to choose from.

    Put this in your head–>Wasting RM80K for a Proton? Are you stupid or what.

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    • Untitled on Aug 04, 2010 at 4:06 pm

      Whatever other choose to buy it’s their consumer right, calling others STUPID FOOLS is utterly rude. Crap or not, after it’s release then we can all compare and comment, unless you are a seer, else you don’t have the power to predict the future accurately. So for instance, you know honda city is from melacca, n yet it priced in the range of a vios from thai, still u buy it, are u stupid? How about, most of us know a vios in langkawi is around 45k~60k, still lots of us still get a vios at 70k~90k, are we stupid?

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      • not stupid, is just do we have a choice?

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        • devil on Aug 20, 2010 at 10:06 pm

          as a conclusion, u r stupid lol~ go buy motorcycle la..

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          • shaera on Apr 28, 2011 at 12:38 am

            visible from body paint seem to look soft, but I saw the name ‘Waja’ seems to mean hard or brave, if I am not wrong :) . and it seems I have one more look hard.

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    • damn basher…

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    • corolla_KE70 on Aug 06, 2010 at 4:20 pm

      anybody buying any car is not stupid, either its toyota, honda, proton or perodua. the one that is STUPID are you, came out from nowhere and start labeling other people.

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  • omg!…everything can happen here in BolehLand…pity on proton….no more idea, no more R&D…just copy n paste…tadaaaa….here u got waja lancer below70k=(

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    • hero86 on Aug 06, 2010 at 10:20 pm

      u can say that again.. but think about it.. if no R&D then how can there be satria neo, saga, persona and exora??? even u say it just copy paste (ctrl+c –> ctrl+v), then how on earth did mitsu have to agree in the first place unless they do think our persona and exora is worth of change..

      i know p1 need more to improve.. she is far behind then other manufacture car.. maybe will take couple of decades more.. but im sure under DSZ, she will grow larger, bigger, and stronger..

      PROUD TO BE PERSONARIAN..

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  • rudduan on Aug 04, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    what about the engine??? are the new waja still use the campro engine or they just use the mitsu engine??? is campro engine hope it is strong enough to pull this kind of ‘new jacket’…..i mean the cars’ body

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  • Untitled on Aug 04, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    Lancer GT from Jap is 38k? If you get it from jap, made in jap ofcause its around there, how about logistic cost? Logistic insurance cost? 38k? If any Malaysians can actually calculate the total ownership cost comparison of jap vs malaysia(eg. annual road tax, insurance, petrol, servicing), then we can talk, else stfu.

    @pemangkin, 55k for all tat? even in langkawi, u can get VIOS ONLY! Malaysia is doomed with bunch of dreamers

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  • The Unicons on Aug 04, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    To Uncommon Sense.

    Proton re-badge Mitsubishi Lancer. Mitsubishi re-badge Proton Persona and Exora as Mitsubishi brand name in some of its markets.

    Common sense…. good business strategy by both parties!!!

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  • muuse on Aug 04, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    whats wrong with the grill!! omg.. proton designer sucks!! y dont they just stick a badge instead of putting that stupid flooting grill? and those stupid straight line girll look so paria… arghhhh!! a nice car turn out uglier then a monkey armpit!! STUPID PROTONNNNNNNNNNNN

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  • hatisakit on Aug 04, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    bodoh la ko ni Uncommon Sense,ko ingat ko tu sapa dah la duduk malaysia tapi belagak macam bagus,sekurang-kurangnye proton boleh buat keta ko boleh buat ape besarkan telor boleh la ko,bengong.

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    • jackey on Aug 05, 2010 at 10:18 am

      close your eyes for 0.5 min… thinking about SAVVY……and thinking driving at U.K……not jalan kampung…………..savvy my first louts

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  • oh no. on Aug 04, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    i forsee more Lala ah beng cars now!

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  • malaysia boleh on Aug 04, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    GO PROTON!!!
    GO MITSU!!!
    hahaha…no need to fight for small pieces of story here.
    Sharing idea & copy with modifying are part of business.

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  • huiyoo on Aug 04, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    its time to change my persona!!

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  • wtf, another junk car to be launch ??????

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    • MLOC-ian on Aug 05, 2010 at 3:25 pm

      yeah, agree…..dont waste time on this “under-educated” basher!

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  • Every time I look at this picture, makes me want to buy it.

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  • tonik on Aug 05, 2010 at 2:43 am

    now ” no more” lancer salesman arrogant…i think ha ha…sure can test drive in anytime..

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  • loollool on Aug 05, 2010 at 3:28 am

    I like waja much better than Gen2… since both are the raw design from proton , why proton now wanna use a mitsubishi to replace Waja?

    can;t it just redesign??

    and i dun understand..since we have Waja, then why later come out a Gen2??
    wat was their intension ?

    can someone tell me??

    waja looks classy and handsome than Gen2!!

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    • PakAbu on Aug 05, 2010 at 4:00 pm

      Read laa…. sudah discuss like nak mampus in this blog’s comments…
      :roll:

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      • MoFaz on Aug 05, 2010 at 11:54 pm

        byk sgt dia nak kena baca kot.. nak baca yg mana satu pun dia tatau. 50% asyik ngutuk je pun.

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  • jackey on Aug 05, 2010 at 9:56 am

    proton top 10 cars
    1. waja – good in handling
    2.savvy – good in handling
    3.GTi – good in handling
    4.saga blm – good in handling
    5.exora – space
    6.new persona – handling
    7.saga aeroback – speeding on that time
    8.juara – design if you know about minimalis design ( designer collection )
    9. tiara – handling
    10. proton saga – till now seen on the road

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  • razzack04 on Aug 05, 2010 at 10:59 am

    We’re getting close to Ramadan (Bulan Puasa). One makcik cannot make 20 kuih to sell at her stall… too much time required and no economic of scale. So, this makcik will make 5 kuih.. another makcik make 5.. and so on. So all these makciks gain economic of scale. Instead of making 20 types X 20 pcs each for total of 400 kuihs. Each makcik can now produce 5 types X 80 pcs each for total of 400 kuihs. They then sell each other kuihs at different location. Sometimes… some makcik just produce and some makcik just sell.

    Proton produced Saga, Exora, Persona…. now they re-badge Lancer….
    Holden… like Vauxhall.. like Opel … from GM
    Perodua… from Daihatsu
    Skoda… Seat… from Volkswagen

    Proton not so bad.. compromise, design some, re-badge also, company still Malaysian. Lotus also under Proton. So… good job Lotus/Proton on Evora.. Elise.

    Perodua even worse… rebadge Daihatsu, never have original design, Nautika also from Indonesia.

    NAZA…. Inokom…. malas cakap la.

    Skoda.. Seat… Vauxhall.. Holden.. Opel.. Rover.. Saab.. Volvo next to follow?? All losers.. use design from parent company, lose ownership to foreign carmakers.

    Don’t worry Proton.. you’re not the best…. and you’re not the worst. Keep on improving. When I was small people always say “Kereta Jepun pakai tin Milo”, now everybody wants to buy Japanese cars. Same like Kia Sephia… kena kutuk also. Now lots of Kia Forte on the road.

    Malaysians.. biasa la, mesti mau kutuk.

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  • Paul,
    can you try to add extra feature for people to click “like” or “dislike” just like fb… some of the people dont like to comment much, but still enjoying to the pic and article

    cheers

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    • Paul Tan on Aug 05, 2010 at 11:16 am

      There is this feature, a like button just below the article. Can u see it?

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      • SquarePetrolHead on Aug 07, 2010 at 9:14 pm

        But Paul you notice o not ppl can click the like or dislike as many times as they want whenever they re-visit the site?

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  • ji kao on Aug 05, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    Best baca komen org psl topic ni, mmg hangat ni, then aku just nak tambah kasi panas lagi… :)

    Org kata rebadged buat proton hilang identity, kill creativity, back to zero and bla bla bla… org kata lagi tak bangga langsung dgn proton yg just mampu utk rebadged keter, compare try to design+create itself… but soalan aku senang je, adakah ‘pride’ can give us profit? Ade penah sesape tanya org yg penah beli keter; bro beli keter pasal ianya buatan Malaysia? Pasal kita design sendiri body keter nih? Keter proton nih cantik compare others? Support local product? Sebab patriotic? Bla bla bla…???

    Public seharusnya maklum and should learn from Hyundai+kia masa memula dorang nak established dlm sector automotive, they do rebadged their model from other car manufacturer. Even other car manufacturer also doing the same and this is because a simple reason “PROFIT MAKING”. As I write before this, business is always business…

    Rumors said that Proton bg persona sama exora for exchange mitsu will give us lancer to rebadged, my question here why not bg mitsu savvy and gen2, since both sales quite not so good? Then we will see how mitsu can tune it, give that model some kick start by redesign several part of it. I believe if we give mitsu a neo, sure mitsu will make it 5 door hatchback.

    In near future I hope mitsu also can give us an airtrek to rebadged, coz I think proton should consider make a SUV, coz market for SUV now in msia nampak mcm open, competitor terdekat (perodua la, sape lagi!) just ade nautica yg salenya tak baper blah… so masanya telah tiba untuk bersaing dlm arena SUV. Kalo sedan dah byk sgt compete ngan persona, even waja pon compete sama market ngan persona, tu psl proton kene study balik market kt msia nih.

    p/s Aku rasa ramai yg komen tak setuju nih tak ramai yg pakai proton, then guna keter T+H brand… so aku tak kesah, your money, your choice… :P

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    • mitsu ka? on Aug 06, 2010 at 12:05 am

      huh? mitsu? org jepun ni memang terkenal ngn kedekut ilmu… do you think P1 will get any benefit from this rebadge of mitsubishi lancer? naahhhh… absolutely nothing….

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    • bonceng on Aug 06, 2010 at 3:17 pm

      ramai yang komplaint proton kerana mereka pakai proton..yang owner pakai T/H brand aku rasa diaorang tak ambil kesah pun..

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  • udasalleh on Aug 05, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    I would rather see Proton concentrate first in producing a new perdana which design has been 15 years on the road albeit with minor cosmetic changes. I think this would be a better undertaking. We’re gonna see soon a lot of aging perdanas of govt agencies needing to replace them.

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    • MoFaz on Aug 05, 2010 at 11:46 pm

      it’s not economically viable to develop Perdana. market size is very small, or niche. should just rebadge suitable model from other manufacturer, until Proton could grab bigger market, for export maybe.

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  • apooo samy on Aug 05, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    hope proton will do better bodykit and look garang and faster compare to ori lancer gt…

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  • pedagangIT on Aug 05, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    smart this car… i like :)

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  • Ordinary-Man on Aug 05, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    No body force u to buy this car la.. dude..
    U like it, u buy it
    U don like it, just leave it.. ok?
    Got money buy whatever car u like,
    no money diam diam coz u wont afford to buy.. juz look on proton saga, viva enuf..
    Haiz.. Why comment too much on that?
    If u really wan proton to change, take out money and buy whole proton share and u become CEO and decision making on ur call..
    No money? juz diam diam..

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  • izack04 on Aug 06, 2010 at 8:39 am

    trading exora n persona to lancer…..2:1
    If the rebadge profits proton, they will boost up the production of proton cars such as bodypart n frame like what they do to us in the begining of time like saga, wira, satria…..then its OK
    But they will outdo us again as u see when we design wira, they copy Malaysian team design and redesign to make what u see in Evo2…this story is based from email from x-proton design team on the net
    They copy, modify n call them their so call CAR then everybody convert into their car
    After that say this proton persona is lousy, compare to “mitsu persona” like heaven, way better than proton
    See what proton did, this is lousy, this is granny design, this body is tin milo, proton designer no taste, bla bla bla
    Kesian again…..All just like bashing easy to say, hard to implement

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  • Uncommon Sense on Aug 06, 2010 at 9:46 am

    What is a value for money means? Or worth? –> LIFETIME WARRANTY

    Lifetime warranty for all new Vauxhalls
    Vauxhall shocks the car industry with news that all models now come with a lifetime warranty
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7928311/Lifetime-warranty-for-all-new-Vauxhalls.html

    That’s what Proton must do also – offer LIFETIME WARRANTY. Then no worry if a Proton worth RM80K for any crap reasons, Proton must replace all the crappy parts for FREE, no question asked, for as long it can be FOREVER.

    ” Proton re-badge Mitsubishi Lancer. Mitsubishi re-badge Proton Persona and Exora as Mitsubishi brand name in some of its markets.”

    How about fugly SAVVY? Send this crap to Mitsu rebadge also lah. At least recoup the sunken cost / ‘balik modal’ instead of write-off as junk inventories to balance Proton account. What, Proton still ashamed with fugly SAVVY? Ha,ha…that’s why fugly SAVVY left out from 25th special edition line-up, eh!

    http://www.topgear.com/uk/proton/savvy
    £7,120 – £7,820
    Truly awful, but we are grateful to Proton for reminding us of how good every other small car on sale in the UK is. We suggest you try buying one of those instead.

    5/20 Cool – It’s a toss up between Perodua and Proton as to which is the least cool car brand in the world. Either way you’re on a hiding to nothing with the Savvy. Silly name, even sillier looks.

    8/20 Quality – The Savvy is budget even by Proton’s standards, and the terrible mish-mash of design ideas and cheap plastics is flung together without much though. The steering wheel, for instance, is so crudely moulded that it actually hurts to hold for any length of time.

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    • MoFaz on Aug 06, 2010 at 12:10 pm

      suka hati ko lah nak kata apa pun.
      u only like to see the bad side and never appreciate the good one in life. that’s why u always have negative impression on everything no matter how good they have become. that’s why, truly, u have no common sense.
      well, good luck enjoying your life, my fren.

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    • The Unicons on Aug 08, 2010 at 12:02 pm

      To Uncommon Sense.

      Hey Brother, now we are talking about Saga, Persona and Exora. The three hot models with less problems from DSZ management teams! You still back to the past and talk about Savvy (from Top Gear) which came out from Tengku Mahaleel management?

      I also disagree with him when he said “Waja is the answer of BMW Asia” – something like that.

      DSZ management teams learned about Proton old management mistakes. With his management, don’t you know Proton is getting better? Domestic and export markets also increase. Explore new markets such as China, just to name one. Looking for bigger markets and ways to improve the selling volume and many others.

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  • Mr. Proton on Aug 06, 2010 at 12:00 pm

    u all know wat? spotted Proton Saga Facelift at Elite Highway 2 nights ago.. i saw some changes at the taillamps and head lamp. new meter combi… i was driving at high speed and slow down when this 2 covered white n black beside me.. i think it will be launched befor end of year..

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    • The Unicons on Aug 08, 2010 at 12:03 pm

      Heard it will launched sometime during Hari Raya Aidilfitri.

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  • harga 70-80K ok dah…kene plak interest rate 4.1% lemah lutut plak…

    pakai iswara 1.3 lagi la gamaknya

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  • RenwoRecnaL on Aug 06, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    Nice Rendering Theo….at least you got something to share la. Almost real. The best photoshop waja’s in the net till now

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  • actually u can get a Mitsubishi Lancer for RM60k++ without tax. Because of Msia Tax you can get a Proton Waja Lancer for RM60k++. MALAYSIA BOLEH!

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    • harharhar on Aug 08, 2010 at 12:39 pm

      go get it !

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      • sun-sun on Aug 12, 2010 at 3:51 pm

        yelaaa go n get it, if no tax how can gvrnment give subsidi petrol, gula, ubat2 n all those education to u!! ALSO BCG..

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  • Dissapointed_Guy on Aug 07, 2010 at 12:30 am

    I think this car will be the same like all previous proton’s car…..only able to sell locally, which is nothing to be pround. Have you ever ask your self??? WHY untill today after 25 years developed car, our car still not able to sell oversea market especially europian & other Asian country? I leave it to you.

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    • F1Pundit.com on Aug 09, 2010 at 11:01 am

      Dissapointed Dude….waja to iran, gen-2 to china, thailand, persona to asean region,dude! read up all previous paultan.org article and cheer yourself up!

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    • sun-sun on Aug 12, 2010 at 3:53 pm

      some poeple a BIT SLOW.. DUNNO y???
      :)

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  • Hi all of you…

    Don’t just comment and ‘kondem’…
    It’s not easy to design and make a car…
    You should proud that we as Malaysian have our own car
    Copy and paste was the condition from the origin model car to our national car maker before directly sell to all of you out there

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    • fibua on Aug 09, 2010 at 1:55 pm

      Yes.. i’m very proud because we have specialist in copy n paste…

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  • yup i agree with u..do you think that open a car manufacterer company and can easily enter the world market in short time of period? Ford took 100 year to be the world leading car manufacturer..toyota goes the same after 80 year then they can lead the industry..Proton just reach 1/4 it life cycle..they are still learning and growing..give them time and when there mature..they will show that they are among the best car manufacterer in the world…if u want to compare with korean industry..hyundai and kia are sharing their facilities..compare to proton , they have all the facilities that a car manufacturer needed..including thier RnD that is R3…proton also had enter the Asian Pasific International rally championship ( AIRC) and join the F1 with Lotus . search for yourselft if there are other car manufacturer that is 25 year old!! that had been in into this area of motorsport..

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    • NazzProton on Aug 10, 2010 at 1:57 pm

      Im WORKING WITH PROTON and im agree with you..

      hey you people please tell me:

      1. WHY WAJA REPLACEMENT ARE REBADGE MODEL FROM MITSUBISHI??
      – Mitsubishi was still own 15% of Proton shared.. Currently the last mitsubishi model in proton is PERDANA. Now PERDANA also was end of production, so now there’s no Mitsubishi cars in proton, at all. So, Proton & Mitsubihi are agree to rebaged LANCER for Proton model and EXORA for Mitsubishi model. Fair enough…

      2. HOW MANY COUNTRY IN THIS WORLD ARE REALLY MAKING CARS??
      – theres about 200 country in the world but only less than 10 country are making car (R&D), and 1 of them is Malaysia, PROTON.

      3. DID U KNOW WHY VOLKSWAGEN LAST YEAR INTRESTED TO BUY 51% OF PROTON SHARE, AND WHY PROTON REFUSE IT??
      – 1st, Proton own 51% of previous british best car maker, LOTUS.
      – 2nd, Proton have the best car factory and facility in south east asia & asia.

      4. Thanks to PROTON, today LOTUS are still known and survived, unlike other british car maker such as TVR, MORGAN, NOBLE and many more that probably u never heard before…

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      • sun-sun on Aug 12, 2010 at 3:55 pm

        keep supporting our local cars… thnx 4 defend our proton..

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    • F1 kia? F1 hyundai????

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  • syahmi on Aug 07, 2010 at 11:41 am

    baru gempak!!! klau tkar interior coklat.. best skit kan?

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  • GoProton on Aug 07, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    Even though this is a rebaged model, DO NOT underestimate it. I can say that it can be different in terms of ride and handling even the look is just similar to Lancer. Well, I am pretty sure that Proton will enhance the ride and handling of this rebadged Lancer with their very own Lotus Ride and Handling. And I am sure the handling will never be the same as the Lancer. I bet this Proton Lancer handles better than current Lancer 1.8.

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    • Ya ya ya~ Lotus ride & with 1.8 or 2.0 CPS engine~ or even1.8L supercharged Toyota engine in the lotus~ 0~100km under 5s?

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  • aku noob on Aug 07, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    what ever it is…this car can kill city, vios, altis, lancer and civic sales…due to its low price..why u want to buy rm80k vios if u can get a lancer gt class car at the same price tag…who really care abou name?? most of ppl care about low price, size n performance….hahahah cool proton :-D

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    • F1Pundit.com on Aug 09, 2010 at 10:50 am

      agree…bro,u forgot the other “predators”….naza kia forte kill those japs at the moments hehe…

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      • MoFaz on Aug 10, 2010 at 2:39 pm

        the moment we see waja lancer, nobody would consider about buying forte anymore.. haha, japs win again?

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    • john doe on Aug 12, 2010 at 2:02 pm

      only 1st 300 is rebadged….next batch will look the same but with proton ‘kampung class’ quality…lets see hw many still sells after tht…even lancer gt is nt selling well although its a CBU from japan,

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  • SquarePetrolHead on Aug 07, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    Theophilus… got a suggestion for you. I was looking at the photos a little closer. I venture to say that the grill on the WALANCER has a bit of a slope to it, rather than straight block as you rendered… wanna try another rendering based on this bit of input?

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  • i want to sell my lancer GT

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    • F1Pundit.com on Aug 09, 2010 at 10:48 am

      2007 Lancer GT currently selling 93k, hope it will drop further when this rebadge version price confirm! haha…

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  • U all Stupid on Aug 08, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    U all very stupid.Another way kasih org makan your money.

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  • U all Stupid on Aug 08, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Open car market, more car manufacturer open kilang here….so you have more jobs, bukan sekadar spm main pasanag pasanag saja.

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  • busybody on Aug 08, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    75K sure hotcake..

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  • razzy on Aug 09, 2010 at 8:05 am

    now..all we gonna have a car dat look same with the car that we all dream…LANCER!!! We all like lancer…and NOW! we all can buy this car, who care about, design, R&D laa…Rebadge laa…Mitsubishi share laa…this laa…that laa…Ada MONEY, then buy Lancer Evo X, kurang money..Buy this new waja…SIMPLE AS THAT

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    • fibua on Aug 09, 2010 at 1:33 pm

      poor proton….people excited about this new waja because they want mitsu lancer DNA, not because of the Proton brand.. at the end of the day, mitsu still the winner..

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    • fibua on Aug 09, 2010 at 1:57 pm

      poor proton….people excited about this new waja because they want mitsu lancer, not because of the Proton brand.. at the end of the day, mitsu still the winner

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  • Yea, i see too many haters over here. There’s no problem with criticism, just make sure that you spend your valuable time to criticise wisely. In this case of another Proton’s brand, the question is simple, it’s either you are willing to cash your money for this car or not. If any of you guys simply want to fire proton for ‘copy and paste’ business, I suggest you do some research and read about Proton’s whole activity in car producing and development business. In 25 years with so many achievements in research and development programme, not to consider with production of some legendary car models, i simply didn’t see wise reason to be a hater. Yup, it is always easy to compare one brand with another, just remember those brands that you are comparing with were in the business for many years ahead of Proton, and they definitely not becoming top car makers in short time, so be smart guys :)

    Like i said, in the end the question is wether you are willing to pay for this car or not. For me, i will not buy this Waja, but im not a hater and deep in my heart, i know one day in near future Proton will be able to produce a brilliant and gorgeous car which i will buy as a proud Malaysian.

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    • NazzProton on Aug 10, 2010 at 2:05 pm

      Im WORKING WITH PROTON and im agree with you..

      hey you people please tell me:

      1. WHY WAJA REPLACEMENT ARE REBADGE MODEL FROM MITSUBISHI??
      – Mitsubishi was still own 15% of Proton shared.. Currently the last mitsubishi model in proton is PERDANA. Now PERDANA also was end of production, so now there’s no Mitsubishi cars in proton, at all. So, Proton & Mitsubihi are agree to rebaged LANCER for Proton model and EXORA for Mitsubishi model. Fair enough…

      2. HOW MANY COUNTRY IN THIS WORLD ARE REALLY MAKING CARS??
      – theres about 200 country in the world but only less than 10 country are making car (R&D), and 1 of them is Malaysia, PROTON.

      3. DID U KNOW WHY VOLKSWAGEN LAST YEAR INTRESTED TO BUY 51% OF PROTON SHARE, AND WHY PROTON REFUSE IT??
      – 1st, Proton own 51% of previous british best car maker, LOTUS.
      – 2nd, Proton have the best car factory and facility in south east asia & asia.

      4. Thanks to PROTON, today LOTUS are still known and survived, unlike other british car maker such as TVR, MORGAN, NOBLE and many more that probably u never heard before…

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      • borres on Aug 11, 2010 at 4:06 pm

        then explain to me. this morning just went to mitsubishi car show room and i asked the seller bout the lancer. he said it will not stop production. later on I asked him again bout the proton lancer one. he said yes it will be based but just the chasis,
        the engine proton will be using campro 1.8, gear of 1.4 automatic transmission. and the interrior will be totally different from the lancer. and the price will be 85k to 90k ,
        so care to explain more nazzproton.?

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        • hvannees on Aug 21, 2010 at 3:19 pm

          u is being ‘kencing kaw kaw’ by the mitsubishi salesman haha

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      • ProtonInsider on Aug 11, 2010 at 9:44 pm

        NazzProton,

        What are you talking about? I am so sure about your bluff working with Proton. We own 100 percent of Lotus Cars Limited stake that we bought in 1994 from Bugatti. Who told you about that 51 percent thing? Shame on you! Do not cheat if you got wrong information. And don’t think you’re clever enough with your ‘lack of cheating homework.’

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      • waimak on Aug 12, 2010 at 1:26 pm

        Whoever repsented proton here you better be right because if it’s illegal to make wrong representation..

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  • Opppss….the ori one still better~

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  • pls la.. on Aug 10, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    soon tis car will crowded everywhere in Malaysia’s rood. jz like the proton wira.
    and “OUR BEST FREN” will driving tis car like a Evolution.
    the WIRA+LUTION can be the best example.

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  • Will proton put out exora with 2.4 dohc mivec engine that is same can b found in mitsubishi grandis? honestly proton exora really underpower especially with full passenger in. With big body but small engine 1.6… very less power to weight ratio, fuel consumption real high, plus now fuel price r high, n might go higher again kot. exora body almost as big as grandis, why la proton put small engine in o? hurmmm… hopefully proton can consider this “underpower” problem of exora from time to time. even if 1.6 turbo i dont think can save fuel la, power mmg ade, but if wif full passenger n u press minyak hbs, tak lama minyak pun low. hehehe!

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    • since when if u tekan minyak the fuel increases?…

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      • honestly strating to pick up time, especially gear 1 2 3… but top gear for long distance journey ok la ada save sikit. tiem full passenger tu rasa tau minyak turun 1 bar if jln around city.

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  • if really hav exora 2.4 doch n hopefully wif mivec… even do the price 90K n above… i think i surely take 2.4 than 1.6 again next time. hehehe! trade in my 1.6. but im sure the price will b around 90K n above one. :p

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  • My observations:

    What’s wrong with rebadging? Someone said, after 25 years Proton is going backward because of this rebadged Waja … Will he ask the same question to Mitsubishi? After 100 of years, Mitsubishi is going backward by rebadging Ixora….. ???

    The people who hate this coming rebadged-Lancer Waja are currently driving VIOS, CITY, LATIO, FORTE, CIVIC, ALTIS and the like so-called ‘aritficial-premium’ cars. Soon they will be drooling to get the New Waja….

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    • fibua on Aug 12, 2010 at 1:38 am

      nothing wrong with rebadging.. I feel proud when people support Proton, but like i said before people only want lancer DNA, not Proton.. Soon you will see a lot of this new waja with mitsu logo, sticker & bodykit just like what we can see now on saga,wira & waja, no more Proton logo… hmmmmmm.. which one we support? Proton or Mitsu?

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    • James on Aug 12, 2010 at 3:41 pm

      i seriously do feel those bashing proton just want to justify their pricier ‘artificial-premium’ car purchase.. :P

      sometimes i feel many malaysian dunno our country status in this world.. with the currency exchange and all etc.. want hire a consultant from overseas also cost a bomb already.. =.=

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  • davion on Aug 11, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    To me this looks decent, not great but way better than average. The nose has some similarity to an Audi (reminds me of my old B8). However if you are paying attention you might find a tiny bit of Dodge Charger in there.

    This will sell well I think provided the price is right and it doesn’t lack a steering wheel ;)

    As for current Lancer owners, if you know cars then you know you can’t compare a real Lancer to a rebadged one. There is going to be differences in build quality and parts. Thats not to say you are going to get a junk either. Proton has improved in recent years.. and in the current economic climate a rebadged Lancer is probably a good short term solution to bring in the revenue.

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  • ProtonInsider on Aug 11, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    I am here to be a little bit on your face to tell you the truth; about the things that you’re complaining and commenting about. But there are only few that I can tell. Of course this Lancer is a rebadged model. Some other car companies are also rebadging other company’s car, so what’s the hitch? We have been designing our own car since ten years ago starting from Waja, Gen.2, Savvy, Satria Neo, Persona, Saga and Exora…

    We design them ourselves. More than five models! And yet people are telling that we’re not doing our job? Peugeot rebadged Mitsubihsi’s i-Miev. Are they not doing their job? We’re doing our job here to provide Malaysians with another options in car selections. Who cares if the model has been around for years?? But there are the bright side of it. Those who are thinking fourth-dimensionally would see this as something bad.

    But in automobile world, there is nothing wrong about rebadging. In fact, it is in the agreement already. We, Proton have agreed to let Mitsubishi rebadge our very own Persona and Exora as their car. So, will Mitsubishi Motors be claimed as not doing their job for rebadging our cars Persona and Exora?

    We got so many benefits from this co-operation and we see this collaboration as a good way in cost-savings and at the same time providing better cars for Malaysians. We are better than last ten years fellow friends! We’ve moved on! And now there are a lot more to come from the Proton line-up. Just wait and see. We’re doing our job right here.

    Regarding the topic, I am here to tell you that this model will be launced in October. And it is confirmed! Media representatives will be invited for special test drive this October a day after the launching. Few info about this model, which I need to say this in discrete–it will be offered with two engine variant; 1.8 and 2.0. And yes, it is Mitsubishi’s 4B10 and 4B11 GEMA engine. No Proton engine will be used for this model.

    And we also get Mitsubishi’s INVECS-III transmission for both variants. That 4B10 is normally aspirated. For those who wanted to have some kick, you can choose the 2.0 line-up because it is 4B11T. YES! I repeat the 2.0 model is a turbocharged model. Of course there are few minor tune-ups done by us–provided the chasis tuning–tuned with Lotus Ride and Handling (handling is better than that Mitsu Lancer).

    Lastly, the price. Price wise, it is below 100K. Even for the 2.0 model. It will not reach 100K. And there are no Base Line model. The lowest is Medium Line. Price starts from 7X,XXX and above. So, that’s all that I can say. If there is anything new, I’ll post it right here. And no more arguing!

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    • bem69 on Aug 12, 2010 at 9:38 am

      2.0T Waja? Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t 4B11T the engine in the EVO 10?

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    • mufasa on Aug 12, 2010 at 10:36 am

      bukan saya bang,,dia orang..

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    • KELAPABALI on Aug 12, 2010 at 11:39 am

      hahahaha 4B11T engine selling below 100K………Mega Sale…

      we call it EVOJA …..JAEVO…..hikhikhik…

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    • waimak on Aug 12, 2010 at 1:34 pm

      Wow, info even before lauching ceremony revealed..

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    • James on Aug 12, 2010 at 5:00 pm

      can place order already anot :P

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    • carsut on Aug 13, 2010 at 11:09 am

      4B11T = Inline 4 cylinder DOHC 16v, Turbo MIVEC, originally buil for EVO!!!

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    • bonceng on Aug 13, 2010 at 11:57 am

      good news..i already places a booking on vios but cancelled due to some problems.
      maybe get this if the said spec..

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    • bonceng on Aug 13, 2010 at 11:57 am

      good news..i already places a booking on vios but cancelled due to some problems.
      maybe get this if the said spec. true..

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    • acerman on Sep 03, 2010 at 10:55 pm

      Good explanation. At least we all get the picture or at least some of it. Is there any other juicy features that Proton might offer, perhaps like the one that is integrated in the Exora?
      One more thing, does INVECTS-III comes with CVT? If its not sure bashers will say the transmission was outdated. Please clarify this.

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  • Scott on Aug 12, 2010 at 1:01 am

    This is GREAT.. We malaysian have a new car called LANJA..
    I’m proud to be a MALAYSIAN!!!

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  • Uncommon Sense on Aug 12, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    NazzProton says:
    “1. WHY WAJA REPLACEMENT ARE REBADGE MODEL FROM MITSUBISHI??
    – Mitsubishi was still own 15% of Proton shared.. Currently the last mitsubishi model in proton is PERDANA. Now PERDANA also was end of production, so now there’s no Mitsubishi cars in proton, at all. So, Proton & Mitsubihi are agree to rebaged LANCER for Proton model and EXORA for Mitsubishi model. Fair enough…”

    Iye?? Suruh lah Mitsubishi jual SAVVY kat Latin America. Buatlah special edition SAVVY Maradona Edition – Fugly, Short and Crazy.

    “2. HOW MANY COUNTRY IN THIS WORLD ARE REALLY MAKING CARS??
    – theres about 200 country in the world but only less than 10 country are making car (R&D), and 1 of them is Malaysia, PROTON.”

    Yes Proton in our country making cars, but keep on making fugly crazy stupid overpriced cars over and over again. (Einstein once said: ‘Doing the same thing over and over again only to expect different result is INSANITY’)

    “3. DID U KNOW WHY VOLKSWAGEN LAST YEAR INTRESTED TO BUY 51% OF PROTON SHARE, AND WHY PROTON REFUSE IT??”

    Sebab Proton nie berlagak BODOH SOMBONG.

    “4. Thanks to PROTON, today LOTUS are still known and survived, unlike other british car maker such as TVR, MORGAN, NOBLE and many more that probably u never heard before…”

    Lagi-lagi berlagak BODOH SOMBONG.

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    • haha, another hater. “Yes Proton in our country making cars, but keep on making fugly crazy stupid overpriced cars over and over again. (Einstein once said: ‘Doing the s same thing over and over again only to expect different result is INSANITY’) ”

      Dude, maybe you are one hell of a rich businessman, that’s why you are so allergy with that so called ‘fugly crazy stupid overpriced cars’ from proton, which are priced just nice for average buyers in malaysia (unless you are driving P2 la bro :) ). I think you failed to understand the whole concept la bro, like i said before 25 years and you are expecting proton to deliver something that suits your ‘high taste’. come on la bro, even Honda, several days ago if you read news they are recalling back thousands of Accord, Civic and Element from US market due to some defect that can cause accident! and the fact that they have been founded since 1948 still doesnt rule them out from making faulty mistakes.

      And yea bro, open your eyes, see around you, and count : how many fugly crazy stupid overpriced cars around you? oh, when you finish counting, feel free to write it here k :)

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      • KELAPABALI on Aug 13, 2010 at 10:12 am

        done counting

        Wira = 10
        Waja = 5
        Wira Lancer = 10,000
        Wira Evo = 20,000
        Waja GSR = 30,000
        Waja Evo = 100,000

        wahhhh many protong wanabeee

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      • Do not compare Proton with Japanese cars as the latter has been around for a long time.

        Just take Korean cars for comparison since both are of similar age (Hyundai 1975 & Proton 1983).

        Just do a logical extrapolation, do you think in another eight years time, Proton could achieve where Hyundai is today. For instance:
        1) The world’s largest automaker by profit
        2) The world’s fourth largest automaker by units sold
        3) The world’s fastest growing automaker

        So this issue here is not who makes Fugly (Funny+Ugly) cars but who can make Fugly cars but yet remain competitive!

        Proton has it all wrong though, if one scrutinizes its business model and all the way down to its designing stage. From day one till today, Proton has failed in every aspect in term of reinventing itself! It should have long failed if its not the Gov policy to shiled them of from the big boys!

        This is my say, “Doing the same thing over and over again only to expect different result is not mere INSANITY but STUPIDITY!!!!”

        From that you can’t blame it on the consumers to hate Proton but the company itself, Period!

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    • acerman on Sep 03, 2010 at 10:43 pm

      Another “Nujum Pak Belalang” in the making…

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  • Insyder on Aug 12, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    Fellow Malaysians. Make sure when this car launches, GRAB IT!!. There’ll be 2 phases. For phase 1, only 10-15% parts are localized (one of the unfortunate ones is that butt ugly front bumper, which fortunately exchangeable at a kedai potong near you) and I don’t know how long Proton will continue to import parts before starting phase 2, so book yours now!!

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  • Malaysian on Aug 13, 2010 at 1:13 am

    I’ll just wait and see.

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  • i already ask the mitsubishi sales man. they say the new waja engine is not same as currently lancer engine. they said,if all the things are same as mitsubishi lancer,then who’s gonna buy lancer anymore??

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    • carsut on Aug 13, 2010 at 11:33 am

      car salesman!! only few of them know abt cars, the rest only go for money.. I dont trust their words.. my 2 cent..

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    • That salesman’ view is right … BUT from Mitsubishi’s point of view, selling 100,000/year Lancer-Waja is extremely more profitable than selling 20000/year Lancer!!!!! Can that salesman sell 20000 lancer/ year? So who care if people don’t buy Lancer or that salesman close shops… Rebadging business is more profitable…. This is business

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  • KELAPABALI on Aug 13, 2010 at 8:26 am

    Einstein once said: ‘Doing the same thing over and over again only to expect different result is INSANITY’

    100% = Protong

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  • proton on Aug 13, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    guys!! u all should watch this video clips.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OzSUq_nvHk&feature=related

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  • bonceng on Aug 14, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    why comment from protoninsider has been removed..

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    • bonceng on Aug 14, 2010 at 1:52 pm

      sory berukband problem, too slow loading..the comment still there

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  • mitsubishi-supporter on Aug 15, 2010 at 1:54 am

    i hate Mitsubishi motors!! i juz bought a lancer for rm124k.. now the new waja (rm85k)is same as my lancer even though the same engine 4B11! Really not fare for lancer user! how come they can let proton use the lancer model as the new waja? at least use the Fortis design as malaysia dun have this model.. if the new waja came out is really same as my lancer,i will sell my lancer to change TOYOTA or HONDA. And will not buy any Mitsubishi product! tat for sure!!!! All the lancer user do u agree what i said? hope MITSUBISHI MOTORS are listening!!

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    • Don’t hate Mitsubishi. They are here to make money. However, the playing field is ain’t level here in Bolehland. Thus, to continue to be competitive, Mitsubishi has no choice but submit to the policy here.

      Should we embrace AFTA100%, do you still think Mitsubishi needs DRB-Hicom? Of course not since Lancer cars world be on par with Waja & Exora in term of pricing!

      “if one continues to swim within a caged up sharks infested sea, One day, he may not know how to outswim them and he may either die in the cage or been eaten up alive once the cage is openned up!”

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    • Lancer GT Owner on Aug 15, 2010 at 6:02 pm

      i also own a mitsubishi lancer gt.. a bit upset when proton decided to rebadge lancer model.. afraid the resale value will drop + loosing our exclusivity to drive mitsubishi car..but then, it is good in another point of view since i am planning to use my lancer for the next 5-7 years.. if this project really comes true, i am sure existing lancer owner will enjoy cheaper spare parts fr mitsubishi/proton and at the same will still enjoying 2 years free maintainance fr. Mitsubishi Malaysia + better quality of CBU model fr Japan instead of CKD waja lancer.. Maybe it’s true that waja lancer will use 80-90% original mitsubishi parts, but the workmnship questions everything whether the QC will be the same as Mitisubishi Japan’s QC..just look at Honda.. i heard a lot a complaints on their quality standard for CKD model as compared to CBU model..rattling sound everywhere after few years driving the car + some other minor problems; just for example.. of course there are not much of major problems..we can hardly heard problems from the toyota model sold in Malaysia..maybe their QC is better + some of their models are CBU imported fr Thailand..

      So, PROTON..please listen.. increase your QC standard in order to become a succesfull car maker in the world.. no point selling thousands of cars every year where in the end more than 50% if the buyer are not satisfied with your products..yes, you can gain a lot of profits by selling more cars, but your name + status will never be as great as germany car maker..NEVER!!! you can rebadge as many models as you want, BUT PLEASE INCREASE YOUR QC STANDARD..we malaysian deserved to own a better quality car.. don’t think malaysia will accept all your products.. most of us decided to own a national car because of nothing else; we need a car, we can’t afford to buy expensive imported car so we have no choice, we buy a low quality national car..dont treat us as lowest human class in the world.. we should always learn fr Japan & Korea where their own people will enjoy better specs for their domestic market.. that’s why our grey importers imported a lot of cars fr. Japan, their Japan Domestic Market (JDM).. why? because they have better specs, better quality + some of the models are only sold in Japan and not meant for other countries..exclusive for Japanese..

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      • sun-sun on Aug 16, 2010 at 7:56 am

        betul!! upgrade ur QC first, PROTON..
        we malaysian deserved to own a better quality car..

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      • KELAPABALI on Aug 17, 2010 at 11:07 am

        100% correct

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      • Butthurt on Aug 18, 2010 at 3:02 am

        The resale value will definetly drop, just depending on how much badly it’s gonna drop. Just like the Swift, the CBU owners got a shock of thier life when it was CKD and the price difference was kind of huge (in terms of percentage). I saw an owner trying to sell off his CBU unit badly, but no takers in ZTH. I’m sure a lot of u guys would have spotted that if you frequent the site. The owner kept bumping the thread for like, 6 months? Pity the dude.

        Who does this kind of policy anyways? Only see this kinda stuff happens here.

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  • kamal on Aug 15, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    lepas ni makan asap la civic , altis kena tapau dgn lancer waja, nasib baik type r je yg bley makan, lol

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  • HirumaKecil on Aug 16, 2010 at 2:33 pm

    Jom ramai2 beli Peugeot… 308,407….. Mantap wooo…. Long life Lion…..

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  • khairuddin on Aug 16, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    thanks for insider for that info. FC lancer ni ok tak ek? klu ok sure will buy one..will trade in saga blm..waa bravo proton. cancel niat nk beli forte. will go for waja lancer..Best car win..haha

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    • borres on Aug 16, 2010 at 5:23 pm

      last time asked the mitsubishi salesman, it’s fc is lower than myvi.

      if it’s true then this is really an eye opener.

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      • in ur dream FC lower…

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      • khairuddin on Aug 17, 2010 at 8:47 am

        really? wow..exited..

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      • KELAPABALI on Aug 17, 2010 at 11:11 am

        hahaha…

        4B11 engine FC lower then MyViii engine…..
        hahahahhahaaa go to school bro….learn more sains math and perdagangan (salesman Chapter)

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      • EVOXXX on Aug 17, 2010 at 9:17 pm

        i think he’s referring to myvi 2.0.. hahaha

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        • khairuddin on Aug 18, 2010 at 9:04 am

          woih..klu xbetoi pun ckp lek lok xleh? bulan posa ni kot..ish2..ingt semua org reti ka pasai reta. klu salah bgtau. jgn dok kondem org xtentu pasai..isk2..

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      • FC better than Lambo or ferrari or Buggati I agree lah~

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      • S.Roma on Aug 31, 2010 at 10:25 am

        FC Lower?

        U ask the salesman, for 1 litre of Ron 97, how much Km it can go?

        I bet that the salesman cant answer la…

        Or, u ask “100 KM for how much litre?”…

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  • ProtonInsider on Aug 16, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    I agree with Lancer GT Owner. Last few years, I do admit that we, Proton are sucks in terms of quality. But we’re doing better now. We’re better than before. In fact, far much better from few years back. If you come to our plant either in Tanjung Malim or Shah Alam you’ll see ‘Quality First’ banner being put everywhere around the plant, reflecting our high commitment in improving the build quality.

    In fact, it has been part of Proton Policy since 2005. And I am sure you can now admit that built quality problems suffered by Proton last time has been minimised drastically. Of course, we are looking at this issue seriously and we are not going to let Proton to deliver crap (or maybe scrap cars) for Malaysian.

    As part of Proton, I am telling fellow Malaysians right here that, we are now doing our job right. The most important thing is that, to produce a car that meets the world’s standard quality in terms of build quality. And I am here agreeing the fact that there’s no use to make a car which looks good but quality wise, terrible! Thanks for the advise and positive views from fellow Malaysians right here. :-)

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    • KELAPABALI on Aug 17, 2010 at 10:54 am

      …we are now doing our job right. The most important thing is that, to copy cat car that meets the world’s standard quality in terms of build quality…

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      • KELAPKUNDUR on Aug 17, 2010 at 11:15 am

        PROTON SAGA KEBANGAAN MALAYSIA

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      • KELAPABALI PELAQ on Aug 17, 2010 at 7:31 pm

        Pala boot-oh hang. Takde kerja membodohkan diri. Macam pay-luck. Tapi memang aku dok tengok komen hang semua menyampuk-nyampuk ajuk cakap orang. This is a real example of a fool fooling other people around with their foolish attitude. So annoying.

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        • KELAPA AHBENG on Aug 18, 2010 at 10:38 am

          Who is Fooling u around !!!!!

          Why do we bash proton? Because we’re forced to buy junk when we could have gotten a much better car with that amount of money, if not for the existence of that monolithic corruption machine.

          What choices do the average malaysian has? To buy a crappy proton and shut up about it because if you voice out your concern, there will be ignorant people like people in this forum that tells you “well, why complain when you’re driving one”?. Any workable logic will tell you that if a person is satisfied with driving a proton, he/she will NOT have any excuse to complain about it.

          Truth is, we’ve lived through at least 25 years frustrated about this company that seemingly forces us to buy its junk with our hard earned money, and live through the countless nightmares of its failing parts and lack of safety systems, THEN come back and laugh at us with all this “daring to dare” and “asia’s BMW” crap?

          Tell me, how can we NOT bash it when it is so outrageously arrogant?

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        • MANGGA on Aug 19, 2010 at 11:07 am

          Ngucap …… bulan pose nie ko guna perkataan tak elok…perkataan mengambarkan peribadi……

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    • beetlecup on Sep 06, 2010 at 10:26 pm

      ProtonInsider, I’ve been driving 2 Proton cars for more than ten years because there weren’t many affordable options for me then. My experience with Proton cars has been a nightmare. I believe this is what the majority of us Malaysians has been experiencing. You cannot blame us for not having faith in Proton and its product. Your customers are your living advertisement. 25 years of pent up frustration… I guest so… However, I seriously hope what you say is true. Good luck Proton!

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  • Butthurt on Aug 18, 2010 at 2:55 am

    Well, the mitsu buyers got screwed nicely. Could have imagined how furious I am if I owned a lancer. And if this news is true, there will be no more potential buyers for mitsu anymore.

    I wonder how much price drop we are looking at for the lancer (GT). Good lord.

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  • KELAPAPELAQ on Aug 18, 2010 at 9:18 am

    Satu lagi sifat yang perlu kita hindari ialah sering mencari kesilapan orang tapi lupa kepada kelemahan sendiri. Orang lain semua tak betul dia aje yang betul. Memang setiap insan tak lekang daripada kesilapan sama ada sengaja atau tidak tapi bagi kita yang bersaudara kritikan dan teguran hendaklah dgn cara yg baik bukan beremosi.

    tuk orang yang tengah marah…..

    MARAH satu daripada sifat tercela (mazmumah) yang dibenci Allah s.w.t dan Rasulullah s.a.w. Perasaan marah yang gagal dikawal sebenarnya boleh menimbulkan sifat keji lain seperti dendam, dengki, sombong dan angkuh.

    Gagal mengawal emosi atau cepat naik angin biasanya berlaku ketika seseorang itu hilang pertimbangan

    Ketika dalam keadaan marah, manusia sebenarnya dikuasai syaitan yang akhirnya akan berlaku suasana tegang seperti kawan bertengkar sesama kawan atau anak mengherdik ibu bapanya.

    Puasa la mungkin dapat mengurangkan amarahmu….

    Amin

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  • Joshua Chan on Aug 18, 2010 at 10:14 am

    Malaysia proton pergi buat laut la
    hanyer tau copy
    idea sendiri tak ada
    damn!
    Invest duit bnyk bnyk, akhir dapat result yg copy!
    ini ke yg di maksud cangkil dan baru?

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    • buat laut?
      buat lauk?
      buang laut?

      just guessing actual possible sentence that you’ve typed.
      hehe…

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  • I feel sad for those that can’t afford a better car, but still have to squeeze their own saving for problematic cars.

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  • BINGBING on Aug 18, 2010 at 10:52 am

    i like this part…

    in fact, it take you 25 years to earn the fame and respect from people, but it only take you 1 month to spoilt your image with poor product…

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  • Its part of business… useless to talk bout frame and respect nowadays coz whatever Proton produce.. people like u will still bashing Proton. Go Proton!

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  • Ape yang saya dgr dari Mitsubishi Motors Corp, MMC, keta proton yang baru ni totally different with lancer gt. engine use still CPS. 1.8 CPS. that all…. no 2.0. and will be launch next year..not this year.. that confirm!!

    Takkan MMC nak bagi engin 4B11 free mcm tu je…..jgn mimpi la proton.. MMC pun nak cari makan gak.. dulu boleh la MMC bagi semua..sbb proton xde ape2, masa tu malaysia mewah di bawah Tun Mahathir, (buktinya tgk saja dividen ASB = tinggi) that why zaman dia byk projek mega, termasuklah projek proton…byak yang dilaburkan oleh malaysia untuk dapatkan teknologi MMC termasuk engin sbb masa tu proton start from zero tp skrg tidak lagi coz proton dah ada kepakaran sampai dah bleh buat engin sendiri yakni Campro…so, i 100% pasti yg proton akan pakai engin ni…demi menjaga maruah mereka, sebab big boos dia ckp nak ikut hyundai…hyundai macam proton la di korea..

    Tp skrg dah 25thn, proton dah maju skit demi skit melalui keuntungan hasil penjualan model2 yg xberkualiti sebelum ini, dan proton juga dah menjadi salah satu pesaing mereka(MMC)….jadi pertukaran model antara MMC dan proton bukan lagi mcm dahulu, kali ini hanya untuk share and learn each technology…not copy phase any more… that why byk perjanjian proton dgn syarikat kenderaan lain tak berjaya kerana proton nak copy and phase terus… Volkvegen pun xnak macam tu.. kalau proton nak tolong pasang kenderaan diaorg, maybe ramai yang nak..hehehehe

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    • salesman spotted lol blah la salesman kencing lebih

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      • hai,,bunyi mcm bawa kereta proton je.. hehehe

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        • Roger on Aug 23, 2010 at 1:49 am

          zack… ko tu yg merapu tah pape… ilmu cetek.. x payah nak melalut.. by the way.. lu umur brp tahun ni.. belaja dah abis belum? hahaha

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    • hang melaka on Aug 19, 2010 at 10:19 am

      hello bro, u sure ke akan pakai campro? hehehe! dia org guna enjin MMC la, dah siap beberapa unit dah kat kilang proton tu sebagai unit cubaan. 1.8 mmg genti ada. 2.0 masih dlm proses perbincangan, dgr2 nya akan ada 2.0 gt malaysia version. tp tak pasti la pasal mivec dia MMC bg ke tak, maybe just 2.0 doch je. org MMC dari jepun puas dah kluar masuk meeting room dia org nak bincang pasal ni. bkn ape sya leh tau bro, anak buah saya bekerja kat kilang proton tu sendiri, tp dia bahagian projek proton saba BLM, so bahagian replacement waja ni dia tak pasti, to yg pasti nya proton mmg guna enjin MMC. mmg dah ada beberapa unit kat situ yg proton buat. dgr cite dr dlm, proton dah kalah teruk oleh perodua, proton byk komplen, dah tak mampu sgt dah nak tahan komplen, so dia org plan nak guna balit tech MMC. Waja replacement la bermula nya lg kisah Proton-MMC, mengimbas kisah lama proton-mmc masa dulu. hehehe! dulu time proton masih ngn mmc mane da byk komplen mcm sekarang, dulu saga, iswara, wira, satria, putra mana da byk komplen mcm waja, gen2, n persona.

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      • masa saga lama, wira,waja n gen2 lagi byk komplen la bro dari masa proton keluar persona n exora….skrg rasanya kualiti proton dh improve skt….cuma persepsi org yang masih xberubah terhadap kualiti proton..

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    • mosar on Aug 19, 2010 at 2:21 pm

      how would they fit in a campro engine? there not even campro 1.8 ever available…come on lar, atleast give some hard fact…did u know how the 4b11 engine is oriented on the lancer engine bay? its inversed orientation, exhaust extractor on the back side instead of the front like on the campro engine..this is not something that u can easily change…

      since when mmc giving it out for “free”? proton pay for it..with money..with model/platform exchange..nak speculate pun, please make sense rather then random statement..and yes, i would agree with the other – salesman talking style –

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      • Maybe u get a “Supercharged 1.8L toyota Celica” from the Lotus Exge S…. ;p

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      • KELAPABALI on Aug 19, 2010 at 3:28 pm

        1.8 compro engine do exist since 2008….check it Bro

        http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y…an&pg=mh_10.htm

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        • mosar on Aug 20, 2010 at 9:20 pm

          thats just a mistake posted by utusan’s journalist…proton themselves never admitted the existence of campro 1.8..if u follow the development of campro engine from the beginning (since it was called SENG – Small Engine, google it up), the whole engine infrastructure only was for 1.3 & 1.6..nothing more..the cylinder sleeve, water jacket, etc already at the maximum, not possible to bore the cylinder width any bigger then 1.6..

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  • khairuddin on Aug 19, 2010 at 9:28 am

    copy is not bad at all.byk projek2 bangunan2 kat m’sia copy dr luar. klu xde idea sndiri why not copy then adunkan dgn acuan sndiri..mcm xbiasa..itulah Malaysia. we are still developing country. not yet develop mcm Jepun, US, UK. not even at par with Singapore.. we are moving towards that. so nk maju, kena lah tiru org yg dh maju..btul tak?

    SELAMAT MENYAMBUT KEMERDEKAAN MALAYSIA YG KE-53..Proud to be Malaysian!

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  • hang melaka on Aug 19, 2010 at 10:24 am

    Kemungkinan proton akan guna enjin MMC dlm gen2 n persona masa akan datang. Kita tunggu dan lihat. Khabar nya Exora juga, mungkin akan guna enjin grandis. Buat masa ni angin2 je la k, so kita just wanit n see la. :)

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  • SABAHAN on Aug 19, 2010 at 10:37 am

    tutup ja proton!sa pun enda tau apa kah identiti krita proton nih…cth kita amik Gen 2.skali tinguk mmg enda tau apa punya krita nih..then bila masuk dalamnya kualiti perkakasannya randah.1 tahun ja semua uda pudar!then talk about handling…these is the worst handling yet in the market!.dari segi suspention…aiyah 6 bulan confirm ada bunyi dan ada licking….dats why krita proton sikarang murah dan sanggup diaorg kasi full loan.tapi awas….pas beli menyesal beb!bagus lagi NAZA punya krita.perodua sikarang ok uda sa tinguk cthnya model myvi…atleas tu krita buli tahan sehingga 5 tahun lah.tapi kalu proton 6 bulan ja!

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    • aku tak faham apa ko cakap.

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      • same…. apa dia cakap?

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      • Dia ckp pasal kereta proton lah…krita=kereta, tinguk=tengok, randah=rendah, enda =tak, yf len dia comment pesal bahagian dalaman Gen 2 yg setahun dah pudar….

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  • SABAHAN on Aug 19, 2010 at 10:47 am

    I think everybody know that we are paying our car more expensive than its quality especially proton and perodua (although my first car is kancil hehe). When I’m in UK, I did saw some proton car too, I am wondering too because only a car that pass side, top (rolling), in front and from back crash test can be sold in UK. Rumors say that it is of different quality, it contain large portion of Mitsubishi part and much harder body, not like the one we got in M’sia, what a ****? We ourselves get the poorest quality because there is no rule of side and top crash in M’sia. Not only that the quality of proton car is not properly checked, it reported that new proton car has at least 37 defects!! honestly that almost nothing we can expect from proton car. I think proton should be closed if they could not give us (M’sian) a good car at price of comparable imported car (without tax). What for we are proctecting Proton when it couldn’t live up to our expectation. In UK, a fine new Mercs and BMW is just 15k to 20k pound. I mean the car price is equal to it quality, not like us in Malaysia, we are paying too much tax to get the imported car because of Proton, at the same time Proton car is not worthy at all considering it quality.

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    • Couldn’t agree more with you my fren.. Proton should not exist in the first place. By now most of us can use lancer evo ori

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  • A' Kow Kow on Aug 19, 2010 at 10:55 am

    I am simply disgusted by the problems about the so called national car, I hav bought three -Saga ,Wira, Waja and hoping each time they can improve. But nuthing really turn up, just to get more problems too. I bought these three cars cos they are cheeper than the Nissan or Toyota, and I got no other choices . Now I hav booked a Myvi and keeping mah fingers crossed

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    • Accord on Aug 19, 2010 at 1:36 pm

      gOOD Luck with your Myvi..

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      • my 4 years old myvi got a lot of sound from the dash board!!! my few months old Alza got sound from front left suspension & rear bonnet!!! Sad!!!!

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  • There is no point debating the quality and price of the fruits as long as the root is rotten.

    Proton will never be a quality car for the price we pay because:

    1. It’s government owned/linked.

    2. It competes based on protection and privileges.

    Until these two fundaments are removed, Proton will never perform.

    It’s as simple as that.

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    • Upin Brilliant on Aug 20, 2010 at 5:55 am

      This fact is definitely undeniable. That’s why our Prime Minister says that Proton will not be able to compete competitively even for years to come because he knew this. Upin, you’re brilliant!

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  • babon on Aug 19, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    aku x marah ngn proton…aku marah ngn kerajaan malaysia bolehland

    sbb polisi kerajaan la aku kene ‘hadap’ kete proton sampai mampus!
    menteri2 kabinet dapur ngn org atasan sume mewah ‘lanyak’ keta import

    rakyat hanye layak bwk kete utang 9-15 taun pastu keta tu wasiat kat anak cucu cicit

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  • kualiti..kualiti..kualiti. kereta belum keluar lagi la bai. gelabah btol.

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  • greasemonkey on Aug 19, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    like it, will buy if look like lancer.

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  • izack04 on Aug 20, 2010 at 9:24 am

    Saya lihat ramai yang suka kereta waja ini yang bercirikan lancer….Atau ramai yang mahukan Lancer yang berharga waja….betul ke?

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  • CICAK KUBING on Aug 20, 2010 at 10:27 am

    Proton’s Power

    All Proton car owners will proudly tell you their car’s air-condition system is the best unlike any other(well only just for a while~). Their car quality must be the worst special among any car around the world to gain more popularity.

    Unique assembly loops exposed between parts to gain more fresh air into your car.
    Cheap and fragile plastic components to ensure that the owners always replace new parts to service their car.

    No anti-rust coat on body – the iron oxide makes the car look even more beautiful than it is.

    Special noise effect over the car nothing more exhilarating than hearing the car engines beat the audio system to it.

    Problematic engine and gearbox system giving the car more power and performance.
    Funny electronic system where the ECU(Electronic Control Unit) in the car will make the driver always in a happy mood even when they are crying.

    Super hard and noisy suspension system giving their car the best suspension setting.
    Inaccurate speedometer which gives drivers the feeling they are driving very fast and furious.

    Power window failure is must to make sure all their car is an original and the trademark for Proton car.

    Chassis inspired by washing machine this make Proton car safer under a collision.
    Spontaneous Combustion stops car theifs( probably blind and deaf)unless you are in the car (you must be blind)

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    • waklanproton on Aug 20, 2010 at 12:23 pm

      huh…desperate salesman ke?

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      • KELAPABALI on Aug 20, 2010 at 3:21 pm

        bang pakai proton lagi ke….

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        • waklanproton on Aug 21, 2010 at 9:39 am

          saya pakai saga LMST satu naza citra satu perodua viva satu….
          incoming mungkin trade in citra amik Exora LPT.
          ok?

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    • cicak….very sarcartic comments….mind sharing what car your drive….then let other people write similar comments about your car, ok?

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    • Kelakau Bonar on Aug 21, 2010 at 10:19 pm

      Kelakau la komen kau nih! Kau ni amik Literature Critique ke masa kat universiti dulu? Review kau bagos dan mantop. Ada penyesuaian dengan keadaan dan ciri semasa yang boleh kita kait rapatkan dengan kereta Proton. (dulu la, sekarang dah kurang kot)…

      But to tell you the truth, I was laughing to death reading your splendid comment right here. :D Anyway, I am not on anyone’s side… I can say that there’s nothing wrong to rebadge. I can say that this is one of my cup of tea. But the thing is that ‘how far the quality really up to the expectation?’ Is it enough to put the ‘Quality First’ banner around the plant whereas the worker would not consider doing their job right?

      Quality wise–who should be responsible for this? THE PRODUCT itself or THE WORKERS who are largely in-charge of building the car from a slice of iron into a complete built car? Hmm…
      ProtonInsider, you dare to say something?

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    • undai on Aug 28, 2010 at 4:48 am

      very desperate until copied and paste writing from other site
      veru funny basher doubtful if he had a proton

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    • JerryTan on Sep 02, 2010 at 10:46 pm

      agreed….my brother P. Exora ABS faulty. the car just few months old. have been waiting 3 weeks for the spare part to arrived, and now still waiting.

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  • MISTAKE on Aug 20, 2010 at 10:34 am

    “Car for Malaysia market no need any quality lah, because like or not they also force to buy our car punya!”

    The Proton theory

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  • DARK VADER on Aug 20, 2010 at 11:08 am

    Proton Research & Development used Microsoft Paint to design all their models or rebadge a car from another car manufacturer. This will improve the image of the Proton to tell people that they are still up to date.

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  • nighttrain on Aug 20, 2010 at 11:28 am

    Car tax alone averages at RM3b annually… that’s money to run the country, if it doesnt go to someone’s pocket. Being able to use that kind of cash for our children’s education and rural development is a good thing, innit? If they cut the tax to let’s say RM1b, how are you going to cover the other RM2b? Multinationals are already being taxed to the max, and for sure you can’t burden SMEs. Fuel? If they lift the subsidy, that only covers a few hundred million. Well, any comments? Mind you, personally, I’m 100% for actual global prices and level playing field. But how are we going to cover the tax losses? Consider our children’s education…

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    • KIRAKIRA on Aug 20, 2010 at 3:01 pm

      Bro take it from oil sub…..40bil a year……

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    • SURTI on Aug 20, 2010 at 3:18 pm

      “”What the hell !!! Are you stupid ???!!! Why should we produce high quality cars? Malaysian still will buy our car one, even though our great Proton cars are no quality (not low quality) because our car is the cheapest in Malaysia. We just need to produce low quality cars for Malaysian is enough lah, why waste money on doing QC and R&D?” ”

      oh ya that RM1bil can come from Proton R&D…..so we can use it for other good purpose

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      • Surti Board-oh on Aug 21, 2010 at 10:36 pm

        What kind of opinion is this Board-oh? Proton still hire TUV Pfaltz as their quality endoser. Apa punya munk-cook! Kalau betul la tak berkualiti sangat kereta mereka ni, baik mereka shut down terus kilang buat kereta. Buat benda lain lagi bagus. Keropok ikan ke… Kain batik ke… Orang tak payah complaint pasal quality. At the very least, quality wise will still be at least 52% paling busuk. Kalau betul kereta mereka ni takde kualiti langsung, belum sempat keluar kilang tayar dah tercabut, pintu dah terkeluar, enjin jatuh and so on…

        Munk-cook are-yon! Board-oh! Komen ikut emosi. Bukan ikut logik. Eeeee…. Board-oh! Board-oh! Board-oh! Board-oh!

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    • MoFaz on Aug 21, 2010 at 3:46 am

      oil subsidy, energy (electricity) subsidy, food subsidy, education subsidy, health subsidy….
      lot’s of people want the car price to be on par with international price, but can they accept if all the subsidies above removed to be on par with international price too?

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  • a disgrace for all lancer owners out there…sigh…

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  • kalau proton nak jimat kos lagi, mereka mungkin akan pakai enjin ni..

    1.8X (F4P)

    * 4-speed AT
    * DOHC 16-valve inline-4 cylinder F4P
    o MPI Fuel System
    o Max output : 116 hp (87 kW) @ 5750 rpm
    o Max torque : 165 N·m (122 lb·ft) @ 3750 rpm
    o Max speed : 186 km/h (116 mph)

    2.0 V6 (Waja Chancellor)

    * 4-speed AT
    * DOHC 24-valve V6 6A12 engine
    o MPI Fuel System
    o Max output : 148 hp (110 kW) @ 6750 rpm
    o Max torque : 179 N·m (132 lb·ft) @ 4000 rpm
    o Max speed : 205 km/h (127 mph)

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    • Zack Mangyun on Aug 21, 2010 at 10:28 pm

      Zack, ape punye review daa ko bagi…

      Aku rase body Lancar ni pun dah dekat 1.3 tonne. 1.8 dengan 116bhp mana larat nak tarik bai. Displacement memang 1.8. Tapi Power to Weight ration tu tak munasarawak la… Takleh-takleh…

      Enjin V6 tu dah outdated la bro… Kedarah minyak kuat… Jadi junk ja… Tarak sapa mau dah. Secara logiknya, Proton mungkin boleh jimat kos, tapi untuk long run, quality, performance dengan maintenance wise, semua enjin ni memang takleh contribute profit untuk Proton. Lagi melingkup ada… Orang yang pakai enjin ni pun lagi lingkup tak larat nak buang duit repair sana sini…

      Yang dah konpom lani, enjin 1.8 4B10… Tu memang konpom. Cuma 4B11 ni… Si ProtonInsider tu kata 4B11T. Macam tak logik… Yang aku dengar 4B11 sahaja 4B11T mustahil…

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      • mosar on Aug 22, 2010 at 11:29 pm

        as much as i want it to be true (4B11T), but honestly, i don’t think so..4B10 & 4B11 only i guess…if 4B11T, comes with SST gearbox, 4WD and <RM100K (as is in Lancer Ralliart), it gonna be mind blowing..(i will be 1st person to go to the nearest Proton Showroom)..but still..too good to be true….however, i'm glad if Proton would surprise us all..

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      • sori2..baru dpt info dari org proton.. engin mitsubishi 1.6 and 1.8…
        bentuk tak macam lancer.. bentuk di upgrade dan diubahsuai sikit2 dari model waja sebelum ni.. diaorg kata nampak mcm kereta mewah skit.. harga blum confirm lagi.. TQ

        p/s: so boleh beli lancer gt la.. hehehe…

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    • If 4 speed auto keep it to urself…

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  • JerryTan on Aug 21, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    if i buy this car, there are few things i will do
    1) buy a Lancer front bumper
    2) buy a Lancer rear bumper
    3) remove the Proton & Waja logo (place Mitsubishi & Lancer emblem)

    done….. i got myself a lancer. who cares about PROTON?

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  • ORG ASLI on Aug 23, 2010 at 11:40 am

    Proton is also well known for spreading rumors, hoaxes, bias and bullshit about their upcoming car which handle better than Porsche 911 & faster than Nissan Skyline GTR 35 in Autobahn. Proton once have asked Kleemann to supply a Supercharger for their Satria Neo in 2005 but there is no official update until today. Later, they asked ATOM to help develop a more powerful Campro engine to them. Proton announced a partnership with VW without the agreement from VW. They have even decided the name for the partnership,Voltron. Pathetic, but again, Malaysia Boleh

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  • AIMAN on Aug 23, 2010 at 3:19 pm

    Nilah golongan Yg bagi Komen Kat Sini – ur SPot

    Yang Cooment +Ve
    1. Pemilik WIRA WAJA yang suka sgt kat Mitsubishi….slalu lawat kedai abeng / keta ptg mod supaya jadik mcm Evo ke Lancer ke…..
    2. Pekerja Proton….kena la sokong….tempat mencari sesuap nasik….

    Yang Comment -Ve
    1. Pemilik Toyota…Honda …Kia ….takut tak bole nak besaing ngan keta rebage
    2. Pemilik Lancer ….. kesian dia…

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    • kamal on Aug 27, 2010 at 5:36 am

      tak cukup tu, meh sini aku tambah:

      1. pemilik merc, bmw tp masih simpan proton sbb tau proton cars are not a joke
      2. org patriotik
      3. stupid bashers yg mmg suka bash , saja2 bash asalkan hati puas
      4. mekanik , jurutera berpengalaman yg tak keja kat proton pun tp tau pros and cons proton sbb dah test berlambak jenis keta
      5. student
      6. kids yg tak grow up sampai bila2

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  • JerryTan on Aug 24, 2010 at 12:16 am

    with this Lancer Waja launch, i think this would be a great hits, cause this is a Mitsubishi base car. why? local car company with their previous lazy design, low rent plastics interior & it’s unwilling engine……and they are those who don’t have passion to drive or have no enjoyment in life. this guys are actually big companies which just want to make bigger profits by selling cars.

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  • izack04 on Aug 25, 2010 at 10:39 am

    It would be the same as any proton-mitsu colaboration cars, proton would die their own plastic panel, dashboard everything accept chasis, and engine(maybe if not using cps campro)
    This would be the same as wira, iswara, satria…..

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    • Regarding the plastic used, compared to Waja, I think numbers of Japanese car also using lousy plastic, example : City, Altis, Hilux even Mitsubishi Grandis, I tried all this car lately, all using hard plastic for dashboard. And people paying premium for those car and drive happily, when they got hard plastic from Proton, they will complain (be prepare the Waja Lancer will use hard plastic as well)

      If only compare the material used, I think even Waja year 2002 model is better (Not sure on 2010 CPS model) Purely on plastic material used, not on technology. Correct me if I am wrong.

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  • myhumble view on Aug 25, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    Dear proton..
    Please show to them that they all wrong..
    Prove that you are worthy..
    Improve your self..
    Please take it seriously..
    No more hard plastic interior, get a new interior design..
    Don’t think about profit..
    Think about people
    Sell the best quality car ever..
    Profit will comes later once quality is there
    We are going to support u i u are willing to improve yourself
    Make ur self independent
    Don’t rely on government
    Please listen to the people voice
    We are not here to condemn u
    We are here to push u until u can stand up with pride
    Proton should be on par with Japanese makers like Toyota and Honda
    We are going to love u proton as long as u r going to improve urself
    And one more thing, please keep ur technology up to date..
    ABS,EBD,VSA,VSC,Traction control, Diesel engine, 1.8.2.0.2.4cc CPS engine must be there..
    Hybrid car…etc

    Wish u luck proton..
    Remember, people always look an eye on u..
    Don’t make them feel disappointed with u..

    Adioss…

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  • Someswiftdude on Aug 26, 2010 at 12:11 am

    It looks good. But I still hope it looks MOAR different than the original Lancer/Evo X.

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  • local on Aug 26, 2010 at 9:24 am

    this model very nice n beautiful.. i like it… Merdaka!!!!

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  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51EqGlM4-y8

    look at this video clay model car is new waja model…

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  • lancerFTW on Aug 26, 2010 at 10:02 am

    “model gantian Waja itu mengekalkan 95 peratus reka bentuk luaran dan dalaman Lancer Fortis, tetapi menampilkan perbezaan ketara bahagian luaran.”

    “Model gantian waja itu dijangka ditawarkan pada harga sekitar RM75,000 (bagi versi 1.8 liter manual); RM80,000 (bagi 1.8 liter auto) dan hampir RM100,000 untuk 2.0 liter.
    Ketika ini, model sedia ada Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0 GT yang diimport sepenuhnya (CBU) dari Jepun, dijual pada harga atas jalan tanpa insurans pada RM120,598.10 seunit.”

    wah!? duit raya najib bagi boleh la topup duit muka keta..haha

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  • PROTON?
    NEVER LEARN, NEVER GROW, NEVER GIVE UP TO BE A LOSER.
    As Malaysian, We have to get used to it, after 25 years of business, it will continue the same old practice in the next 25 years. Accept it or not it’s up to you.

    There are still people buying the cars, because they are forced to do that. Putting aside with the National Car Policy, we can hardly see proton car on the road, because everyone can afford japanese/european marques.

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    • JerryTan on Aug 26, 2010 at 9:53 pm

      you are right… japanese car are not expensive. tax makes it expensive

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      • without proton also government will tax other cars to get revenue……so still you guys cannot afford your dream japanese cars

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        • JerryTan on Aug 29, 2010 at 4:10 pm

          wrong…. Japanese car even though with government tax is doesn’t cost a bomb. i could see many Malaysian driving them. they are just over priced because of the taxes.

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    • inderaloka on Aug 29, 2010 at 7:08 pm

      I totally agree with you.

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  • ameer_kml on Aug 26, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    setuju ngan lancer FTW, dah reconfirm ngan proton dealer…engine 1.8 4B10 manual dlm rm75k…boleyla : )

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  • bayern on Aug 31, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    i confused it is fortis or lancer gt? i really like fortis is look more executive. but other way nice job protob, let make Honda and Toyota owner eat dust or tepuk dahi.

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  • bayern on Aug 31, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    i confused it is fortis or lancer gt? i really like fortis is look more executive. nice job proton, let make Honda and Toyota owner eat dust or tepuk dahi. Thumbs up proton

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  • abdullah hukum on Sep 02, 2010 at 3:37 am

    After 25 years and P1 still rebadging a Mitsu ??
    Now that is what we call progress !!! Msia boleh… !!!

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    • Malim Deman on Sep 03, 2010 at 2:19 am

      Bro…
      Hari tu masa proton lancarkan Exora semua komen apa lah proton buat MPV yg tak bagus…

      Bila produa rebandding toyota.. semua puji bagus…. Terbaikkkkkkkkk

      Tapi kali ni…. proton buat yg sama masih tak kena…. he he he…

      Ini lah masalah org malaya…..

      Buat design sendiri salah.. gunakan base mit pun tak kena juga…

      Mungkin kita ni kena buat sendiri kereta untuk pakai sendiri…. he he he…

      Kalau kat spore…. ada juga modem ni yg cuma gunakan 1.5cc… tak pula diorg komen….

      Ada satu lagi akan dilancarkan pada hujung tahun ni… saga facelift……

      nanti ada pulak yg akan komen…. alahhhhhh proton itu jer lahyg dia boeh buat…

      semua tu biasa kita dengar….

      sedangkan kita tak pernah peke dengan perubahan… cthnya toyota sendiri buat kereta dah berpuluh tahun…. tapi banyak juga kenderaan yg ditarikbalik sbb masalah yg serius.. takpula org cakap….

      Sebab org malaya ni bukan peka tapi pekak dengan kemajuan…..

      kalau org malaya ni betul2 peka… kita akan risau sbb toyota buat kereta sampai ada kemalangan dan terpaksa ditarik balik dari pasaran….

      model tahun 2008 pun ada yg ditarik balik….. cubalah kita semak dan baca berita luar dari lingkungan kita….

      kalau kita ke korea… rasanya kebanyakkan org gunakan kereta korea sbb diorg mempunya semangat kekitaan dan menyokong produk diorg….

      jadi renung2kan lah

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  • Rebadging no problem but make sure the quality is there like Citroen Peugeot. The price range from RM75K to RM80K a bit ridiculous. Lancer Mitsubishi engine selling RM120K with crazy tax. Local car RM80K??

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    • mufasa on Sep 03, 2010 at 12:19 pm

      85-75 is expensive if we do basic matematik calculation…. it should be at about 60K,,,,but i believe the main reason P1 do rebadging is to get some cash for next development car,,, Plus 85-75 price will not much interrupt other car sales and resale value for Kia,Hyundai,Mazda, car as customer, of course i not agreed with this P1 lancer price …. but from business point of view, P1 will do that, coz if P1 rugi , lagi teruk people blame them..,,, so better squeeze people but gain some profit :P

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  • Seriously, we (Malaysians) need to change the way we think, our perception and our mentality to move forward. Look things positively.. improve them… and move on. If you look things negatively, .. condemn them … we will be here forever. If you think that you can contribute, then contribute otherwise support them by not bashing them.

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    • condemn them as a full support so that they all can improve in the next future..

      hope they can take negative as positive point of view..

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  • Already came out at TV tonite lah, it is almost similar to above rendered pix… red coloured.
    who cares what badge or rebadge .. to me it is A good bargain .. u got mitsu engine with lotus handling , and proton price…. kudos to proton .. this rebadge thing should have been practised since 1985 … prev mx too proud on stupid model ?? arena ?/? juwara … Good proton present mx .. good saga model, persona, MPV model and now a mid-upper sedan model … now go for a model to challenge Accord or Camry .. then proton will definitely make money .. and customers will definitely smile ….

    guessed price 70K-85K

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  • just watched tv3 midnite news. they confirmed its same like mitsubishi lancer – not all, but includes some lotus technology. will be launched early october. =) front grill not really like the pic on top shows.

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  • lancer gt owner now will be crazy…sooo…poor.

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  • Ya, saw it too during buletin utama and there was red proton lancer uncovered. Now they are producing the units for showroom and launching is in early October. Anyone has the link to TV3 buletin utama?

    P1 is ahead of P2 for the facelift Myvi this time which is planned in Nov.

    Well done P1 you are on track to be a market leader again in 2011.

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  • Adijeragat on Sep 04, 2010 at 11:55 am

    I support u MalimDeman
    3/9/2010 at 2:19am

    Bukan sahaja Toyota malah Honda & Mitsubishi dulu pun pernah kena tarik balik…. semua pun senyap sahaja….. ha ada juga Honda Civic baru dan Toyota Vios baru yang saya nampak tersadai tepi jalan, senang ginilah tutup je kilang Proton bukak Kilang kereta jenama Ah Guan ke Kok Meng ke Poh Kong ke yang x ada kena mengena dengan kerajaan langsung, garenti kalau mutu lagi teruk daripada proton pun x kan ada orang bising, malah akan sokong pulak…. biasalah dah mindset macam tu….. :

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    • Waja Espada #2 on Sep 06, 2010 at 1:37 pm

      setuju sangat…klu kita buat, macam-macam mulut dok pot pet padahal yang pot pet tu klu buat bagus camne pun, bukan nak sokong sangat pun.. beli jugak yang luar. dah ada duit tak kan nak beli local punya..puak ni memang jenis tak nak sokong orang lain punya..tambah tambah current gomen..sendiri paham-paham la..

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  • lepas beli kereta waja baru ni, ramai2 kite pergi Rainbow Kepong. Tukar semua sampai jadi Evo X. hehehehe..

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  • Thank u proton…Proton memahami hati rakyat Malaysia yang xmampu… Cara PM sekarang.. (” , )

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  • Link to TV3 buletin utama 3 september 2010

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTbyrksiwx8

    Almost similar wit the above rendered picture…

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  • protonz on Sep 04, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    scrap azlano from design dept!

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  • Protonians on Sep 05, 2010 at 1:30 am

    Proton is OK
    what do u expect from that price range?

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  • this is a very nice car , but wonder why proton haven’t manufactured a single engine

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  • Sesungguhnya saya bangga malaysia mampu melahirkan proton cuma yang saya kesalkan, kerana hendak melindungi proton kita terpaksa membayar hanga yang tinggi untuk memiliki kereta yang berkualiti.

    fikir-fikirkan lah….semua orang ada hak untuk memilih yang terbaik untuk dirinya tetapi kita tida mempunyai hak ini

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    • Waja Espada #2 on Sep 06, 2010 at 1:44 pm

      Yup..harap-harap pengorbanan orang M’sia yang selama ini dok sokong n sanggup kelentong hati supaya guna proton akan terbalas melalui product yang lebih baik & strategi perniagaan yang mapan.
      Risau gak aku sebab current business trend ialah produce a lot to reduce cost. for export purpose, produce inside that country b’coz like M’sia, others pun restricted dia punya price. If local assembled/produce in their country, the tax is lower. But proton still send CBU unit, so mahal dari competitor di sana.
      Kilang di Tjng Malim capable of max output yang tinggi but not even half is occupied. So, wastage la jugak tu..

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  • LEBAIKUDOS on Sep 06, 2010 at 9:10 am

    Setelah 25 tahun kita memberikan sokongan untuk melindungi proton dengan dasar automatif yang agak membebankan pembeli kerana harga kenderaan yang ditawarkan (selain proton) agak tinggi. Rasanya sudah tiba masanya pembeli diberi peluang untuk memilih kenderaan yang diingini pada kadar harga yang lebih adil. kita yakin selama 25 tahun ini, proton semakin dewasa dan rasanya sudah mampu bersaing…….

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  • NANGNAK on Sep 06, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    Apapun yang menang dalam situasi ni adalah Mitsubishi, orang akan beli rebadge waja sebab percaya pada brand mitsubihi bukan sebab proton.

    Kenapa kita nak tipu diri kata waja rebadge tu kita punya sedangkan kita tau kita cuma lekat badge kat keta mitsu tu je !!!

    where is our pride

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  • CUPANG on Sep 06, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Abang Zaki kita suka sangat …. nie mesti dah lama ngidam keta GT, ko suka p1 ke mitsu. mesti slalu jmpa ah beng mod p1 dia jadik evo hahahaha

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  • real LANCER owner on Sep 06, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    Well,i a bit upset when i known this.,but on the other point of think,i am happy coz alot of people are actually like LANCER..is only they can’t afford to buy! So,this is a good news for those guyz who like real LANCER but can’t afford to buy! So,the NEW WAJA is the best choice for u guyz…
    BUT,think carefully.. is it PROTON!! not MITSUBISHI! it is only the out looks almost same as lancer but the QUALITY is not that same! Some stupid says,(Haha,below 100k can get LANCER quality!)DREAMS!! do u think u pay less than 100k can get a 100% same MATERIAL,ENGINES & QUALITY with LANCER? ya,i know our taxes are high! but NO…u can’t! get the same,that for sure! but out looks u can! So,for any LANCER owner here,i would like to say..dun be so upset about it… we are paying for the QUALITY! and we r using the real LANCER..not the FAKE 1!! So..when we saw the FAKE 1 on the road..juz chase him kao kao!! let those NEW WAJA owner know what is the different between a WAJA and LANCER! At last i want to tell those want to but local product PROTON WAJA.. don’t dream u are buying a LANCER! u r only buying a RM8?k PROTON WAJA! not 123K MITSUBISHI LANCER! no matter how u change the out looks.. your steering weel & engines logo is PROTON! this u can’t change! People just go see your steering then will know yours is a PROTON! That’s it.

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    • IX35 Driver on Sep 06, 2010 at 6:42 pm

      Noted on your concern and frustration

      I reckon with the recent JV and lesser tax and duty imposed, the car would be able par at the lower pricing and being equiped with the similar gadgets curently being enjoy by Mit. Lancer owners.

      It is a win win thing for proton and mit and to a certain extent the total majority ppl who cant afford a original mit.

      IMHO, i do not think proton is in a position/level to manufacture certain components of it since the JV was a very last minute approach. To some point, it wold be a direct copy and rebadge kind of thing.

      What to do!, Msia Boleh is a very general statement/tag line and it did not specify whether it is for the positive or negative side of it….so for this case is Msia Boleh Copy lor and Msian Boleh Beli lor ;)

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      • IX35 Driver on Sep 06, 2010 at 6:50 pm

        Furthermore, I heard many current lancer owners have traded in their cars for something else.

        So better opt into a Mit ASX or something else if i were you, as there will come a time when Evo X wannabees would out numbered the current lancer and forth coming Waja.

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    • Lee HG on Sep 17, 2010 at 4:04 pm

      if waja replacement sales at RM80K, proton make a lot of money. I drive lancer , the price at ex wrok Japan only RM36k, (somemore is 2.0 l) if local manufacture is should be less 36K. coz Japan worker high paid.
      Qbjective : proton Share will be up…..

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    • different approach on Oct 09, 2010 at 12:50 pm

      haha..poor old lancer onwer..come on la bro..its like you eat MCD in malaysia..MACfood supply the meat..same taste ma…like in US..new waja..CKD!!only malaysian pasang..engine, body parts all from japan..they design the process..documents all from japan..standard spec..testing..same like in japan..cuma buat di malaysia..rileks bro..dont regret!

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  • BADGE on Sep 07, 2010 at 8:51 am

    Sebenarnya kat p1 department R&D ni tak wujud yang wujud hanya pembuat badge proton. ( nak tepek kat keta lain buat jadi p1 ).

    pls la proton comeout with ur own idea !!!!

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    • mr.proton on Sep 18, 2010 at 6:54 pm

      wat the hell with this statement..? bila proton buat design sendiri gen2, neo etc pegi kutuk.. pastu bila rebadge marah plak.. apa da……. nanti bila design persona r 2012 pun kau kutuk gak.. cut the crap man..

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      • Paejal on Sep 24, 2010 at 12:27 pm

        Bro…admit the fact…dah design tak lawa macam gen2 & persona…lepas tu copycat kereta org lain…
        mana org tak kutuk…
        but admit i fact…Satria Neo memang cantek!

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  • AzarKK on Sep 07, 2010 at 9:12 am

    Kalau setakat nak tukar badge keta lain baik tak payah upah pekerja kat R&D upah ah beng lagi bagus sebab dia lagi tau mana keta cantik yang boleh direbadge dan bole buat utg banyak.

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  • RamaDhanIlham on Sep 07, 2010 at 9:24 am

    orang yang suka meniru mempunyai kualiti kerja yang rendah dan dia sudah pasti tidak faham apa yang dilakukannya.

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  • Keta2hand on Sep 07, 2010 at 9:30 am

    offer 2nd hand Lancer GT/GTS
    or only RM90k.
    under warranty
    no need mod (p1 ned mod)
    careful owner
    low milage
    many colour available
    2007 – 2010

    why buy copy when u can afford to get ori

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  • sukasuka on Sep 07, 2010 at 10:01 am

    Sketsa 3 sekawan

    Wira : aku la evo berasal dari keta potong

    Waja : aku lagi evo tengok buntut aku dah tak de lambing & enjin aku dapat kat keta potong evo 9 punya enjin evo

    Wira : iskhh iskhhh evonya kau tapik ko takde rim evo 3 aku ada hahahah

    Wajalancer : aku lagi evo kopi terus lancer anak evo….hehehe

    Waja : kalau tengok rupa ko nie sebijik macam evo tapi pasal ada lambang kuching kat badan kau.

    Wira : hahaha sama macam kita gak hahahahah…ops jangan gelak ada yang perti kita lerr….oiiii awak nie sape

    Evo : aku la p1 heh

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  • losantara on Sep 08, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    A very strange senario is going to happen to current Lancer owner who buy their car on loan. Their car price is going to drop drastically after the launch of WAJA. Making them not possible to sell their car,,,,,because they need to pay more to top up with the outstanding loan they owe the bank. This is called NEGATIVE EQUITY. This situation happen in Hong Kong properties a few years back.

    Example:

    Mr Mit bought a Lancer with 7 years 80% loan 2 years back (loan amount RM 96000) He still owe the bank RM 83k today. After WAJA launch assuming at 70k, and his 2 YEARS OLD Lancer price drop to 60k, means he has to pay 23k to the bank when he wanna sell his old Lancer. Madness !

    I welcome all comment and my figures are ready to be corrected.

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    • shawn on Sep 21, 2010 at 2:23 pm

      why should i sell my car?, and comparing my lancer with new Waja Lancer?, does not make sense at all, what im thinking is, the body is same but the performance is different,
      The marketing of Proton is because of body as its exactly same with lancer or Evo, and they thinking it will be a good selling of the year in proton, people will buy because of its a lancer or evo’s body, i dun care at all, u drive and u know which one is better..

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    • Zidane on Oct 01, 2010 at 11:45 am

      Proton
      Mitsubshi

      I’ll go for Mitsubishi or other thn Proton

      Reason – already have proton previously and it is very disappointed with d qulaity & Service

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  • CopyCat on Sep 09, 2010 at 2:19 am

    YES..finally after long waiting…I hope Jeremy Clarkson will review to the world this new Waja Lancer what happen to Proton after 25 years of what they call Pride, Passion & Progress.

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  • brostar on Sep 13, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    Hope this new waja are low fuel consumption car

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  • silvers81 on Sep 14, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    perodua n proton dua2 sama je.suka tiru org lain.body sama tapi tukar logo n harga murah.sok2 kompom kena komplen dgn clarkson dlm top gear.haha..

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  • heard from proton salesman,proton will produce first 1000 unit with mmc engine,while other with new campro 1.8 & 2.0 cc engine…..

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  • zaharin on Sep 16, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    Lancer tak bleh buat sedan.. tak lawa. Tak guna kalo bli kete ni.. nnti yg bli tu akan tukarkan semua kepada model asal iaitu evo

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  • zaharin on Sep 16, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    Lancer tak bleh buat sedan.. tak lawa. Tak guna kalo bli kete ni.. nnti yg bli tu akan tukarkan semua kepada model asal iaitu lancer

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  • gerald on Sep 24, 2010 at 12:10 am

    when is the exact date for this car to launch?

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  • salam kedah on Sep 26, 2010 at 10:56 am

    bila model ini boleh keluar ke pasaran m’sia tak sabar nak tunggu…..kalau boleh percepatkan lah sikit..PROTON BESTTTTTTTTT……………..

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  • ENJUT on Sep 27, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    say NO to COPY.. mine is ORI

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  • guest on Sep 30, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    A lot of people talking this subject since 2009, finally some news was released at TV3. I have met some proton staff…here is some news provide from them.

    1) This car not call “Waja Lancer”, to be decided soon.
    2) 2-engine will be launch – 1.8L & 2.0L.
    3) Price 75k up (1.8L), 90k up (2.0L)
    4) Front & back bumper change to local
    5) Deskboard minor change
    6) sport rim & types change to local
    7) seat change to local
    8) No bodykit
    9) Launch on december 2010, can start booking now
    10) over all 90% import
    11) The look similar like Paultan.org artwork

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    • Correction

      Price for 1.8L up to 85K and 2.0L 95K

      cant wait to c this thundercat on d road

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      • Guest on Oct 01, 2010 at 6:31 pm

        If the price for 2.0L is 95k, it not consider good buy. Please look at it.

        1) Change Local Types & Rims (Save around RM2k++)
        2) Change front & back bumper (Save around RM1K++)
        3) Change seat to local (Save around RM4k++)
        4) Without bodykit (Save around RM1K++)
        5) Others changes (Save around RM2k++)

        Total save around 10k. If add back to launch price 95k + 10k = 105k

        If almost near to Mitsubshi ori price (120k). Better i full import from Japan.

        One thing want to rectify here…lauching is in November 2010.

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  • car survey of the year on Oct 08, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    I just make a count for u guys who want to pucharse a new waja.

    Mitsubishi lancer 2.0 (MIVEC & CVT Gearbox)
    Price RM124.000
    downpayment RM12’400
    balance RM111’600 X 3.3% = RM3682.8 X 9 = RM33’145.2 + RM111’600 = RM144’745.2 } 108 = RM1340 per month

    Honda Civic 1.8 (i VTEC)
    Price RM113’000
    downpayment RM11’300
    balance RM101’700 X 3.3% = RM3356.1 X 9 = RM30’204.5 + RM101’700 = 131’904.5 } 108 = RM1221 per month

    Proton waja 1.8 or 2.0 (Campro & rojak gearbox)
    Price RM85’000
    downpayment RM8’500
    balance RM76’500 X 4.3%(Proton or Perodua interest rate is higher than others)=RM3289.5 X 9 = RM29’605.5 + RM76’500 =RM106’105.5 } 108 =RM982

    MITSUBISHI LANCER (Downpayment different RM3900 & everymonth different RM358)

    HONDA CIVIC (Downpayment different RM2800 & everymonth different RM239
    )

    U pay almost RM1000 per month do u still want to drive a PROTON (Local pruduct + lousy quality + low second hand value)
    If u still prefer the WAJA then just go ahead but u will regret as the price u pay.
    (Ya,its a LANCER looks but no matter how u change the bumber or logo it is still a PROTON WAJA) Good lucks proton supporter.

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    • CAR SURVEY OF THE YEAR??? U R THE REAL LOCAL PRODUCT BASHER OF THE CENTURY…

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  • different approach on Oct 09, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    waja lancer..ok la..2.0cvt-85k
    its CKD, most parts from Japan..MMC personnel audit all the processes(from body assembly, painting & trim/final in Proton’s MVF plant..where they will make Lancer(MVF also produce Exora). They need to comply with MMC standard/spec. This was difference, 1st time of CKD, no stamping(although perdana also like that but lancer only 10% localisation)
    Evo10 body..nice!with all the reinforcement..500kg..almost same weight of BIW with MPV(exora). Mivec engine..same interior..who want the look of ori lancer..can change bumper..its simply lancer..but org malaysia yg pasang..engine pon datang sebijik, just sub-assembly..

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    • shaera on Apr 28, 2011 at 12:45 am

      visible from body paint seem to look soft, but I saw the name ‘Waja’ seems to mean hard or brave, if I am not wrong:). and it seems I have one more look hard.

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