Reader Fahmil spotted the elusive “Waja Lancer” soon to be launched out in the open near Masjid Kapitan Keling in Penang last Friday, along with an Exora ‘escort’.
It was actually raining, and Fahmil was so excited that he jumped out of his car and snapped the new Waja in the rain!
The new Waja is essentially a badge engineered Mitsubishi Lancer and this particular car clearly already has the Proton nose applied on it as the front end is completely taped up.
You can see some horizontal bars on the front grille like the ones found on the Persona and the Exora though, so the family resemblance is definitely there.
Look after the jump for the rest of the photos.
GALLERY: New Proton Waja replacement based on Mitsubishi Lancer
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GALLERY: Proton Exora ‘escort’ for the Waja replacement
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Oh dear, the price of Lancer will drop…
definitely since they gonna price this at 70k to 80k+…..
dun ever thing Proton will re badge it for less than 80K…
for 80-90K, sure you can get a 1.8… 2.0cvt should be ~90K-100K.. it shall be grateful if the price around ~90K.. as a partner with mitsu do you thing they willing to kill the CBU Lancer??
unless mitsu left pocket out and right hand pocket in…then it make sense mitsu will granted the CKD for protom.. win win business partner..
I willing to choose Sentra, Honda City or Livina rather than 80-90k Waja Replacement with 1.8-2.0. I think it’s worst for my money in order getting a quality car.. do u agree?
It might be less than 75k for new Waja.. if that Waja’s price going up to 80k-90k, it doesn’t make sense. Proton cekik darah…M’sian gov has not imposed 300% tax on Proton la… Just my cent.
better buy honda civic 2.0…..just 100k only…but the engine n body very good
u jealous???? proton the best
it will be ard 80k-90k….
but their took our exora n pesona for sale in japan.. fare n square ..
is it..??i support proton forever…
Coming in 1.8(M) – 75K
1.8(A) – 79K
2.0(A) CVT – 90K++
drop kaw kaw liao, all hard earn money will gone……………..
or once, i hope proton will use their own brain and develop something on their own… It has been 25 years and they still copying others. Kia, even though many of us look down on it, has leaped many years forward than proton. they are younger than proton. forte was chosen as the best sedan in US. i was happy when they came out with exora, something that they developed on their own but now…. hopeless. because of this, we have to buy good quality cars for very expensive price just to save proton. I bet, most of the fatal accidents involves malaysia car. you are more likely to die if you are driving proton and involved in accident. prove me wrong. phew…stil struggling with power window!!!
Hi Sattian. You are 10000% correct!
You hv so many talented people… engineers. But still depends on Japan. Funny.
another one people who didn’t use the brain when say something!!
it’s true if u say there are so many talented people in Malaysia. But, can u say how many automotive engineer in Malaysia? the only true automotive engineer who can design and develop a car are at Proton. but the number of them so small. at other car manufacturing company like perodua, naza , nissan, they are not automotive engineer, but only production/manufacturing engineer who not have capability to design and produce a car. i’m the one people in automotive field know what the exact happen in automotive field.
we not depend on japannese, but the rebadge only as a marketing strategic done by proton and mitshubishi.
i owned honda civic 1.8 (new) then sold and now owned new accord.. i thought being supreme brand , the car is good, but no. its the worst car ever. 1st the brake.. is very substandard, power stering noisy, handling also noisy. i’m so upset but now cannot sell it cause rugi banyak so pakai je lah. befor these two i ade persona. handling dan senyap is better than honda.
so guys really some proton models is indeed good. just that of course previous history leave the stigma…
Ashley: how’s the civic?, i’m planning to buy a 1.6 one.
now im using my old saga, which because of low cc can’t overtake smoothly..
Who ever use his brain then buy a proton car will be the most stupid buyer. You are getting low quality car, old fashion design car or even most unwanted car in this world. You know why I said so…bcos after 25 years , PROTON never change their concept of design , more on ‘ciplak’ing model. So stupid……
I think you’re forgetting the Waja, which was, partially helped by Mitsubishi as they borrowed their engine.
Nevertheless I think it’s easy to snipe at Proton because of their past with substandard parts. But I have some faith in the national car maker in making an effort to develop cars. If you look at the Gen 2, it was horrible from the design and ergonomics. But when the Persona came out, a lot of the complaints were fixed and minor redesign of parts and interior made the car much better.
If you have not taken a test drive in their Satria and Persona, I think you are missing out alot because these 2 cars, on the very least, have serious handling capabilities.
Many people or proton-bashers as I like to call them, love criticizing Proton as they had a horrible history in reliability. I think most Proton faithful would tell you the cars now are much better than what was produced 10 years ago.
Sure, we pay more for foreign made/badged cars, and it’s a government policy to do such a thing to protect proton. You could call me a nationalist, but not many nations can say that they have their own car industry, yet alone a national car. I know I’m gonna get flamed for this, but what other country, other than the 1st world countries, such as Germany and Japan, have a proper national car? Even Germans have bad things to say about their own car makers. Toyota ain’t that fantastic either. A lot of people say that if Toyota were to price their car in a free, open environment, it could easily rival Proton. True, but have you considered the price of ownership of a Toyota? At the end of the day, owning a Toyota isn’t cheaper than a Proton. Sure, if all parts were made to last, and Proton is trying their best, it’s easy to see that owning a Proton isn’t too bad and is cheaper to own than a Toyota. Of course, I’m saying all this, as my family and I own Toyota’s and a Proton. It’s always easy to criticize. At least with Proton, the change is noticeable, albeit can be slow.
Just because they choose to rebadge a Lancer wouldn’t mean that they have no idea or “no brains” as you put it. I’m not ‘protecting’ Proton from critical, constructive comments, but your comments are just spiteful. Not constructive at all. In any case, Proton is trying to fill a market gap just as they see fit, and probably mean that they need to do it fast. At least they took effort in putting in a new model rather than continue with the Waja. The previous lifespan of Proton models were more than 10 years before, and now at least they took initiative.
That said, has it occured to you that Mitsubishi is well known for their chassis design? Imagine they take that, and ‘blend’ it with a handling of a Lotus? In my opinion, it’s going to be an exciting car to look forward to. They’re attempting to make a fabulously popular car, better. I don’t know about you, but that sounds exciting.
Not to mention, since the Waja Replacement Model is sharing the same platform as the current Mitsubishi, that would also mean modding the car would be easier, since aftermarket parts of the Mitsubishi are so easily available.
The more I talk about it, the more excited I am about it. I don’t know about you, sour grape.
to have a national car at the expense of the citizen?? i dont think so… the money can be used wisely in other developments to improve our poor quality public transport services
I don’t like the idea of re-badging proton with japanese made. IMHO, proton design chasis were more superior than japs. Try honda civic and you will know why (albeit the engine performance).
what a whole lot of rubbish, I thought I was reading Proton’s paid-editorial in Utusan Malaysia’s website! Are you expecting a ‘brownie point’ from Proton for this? Sheesh.
Well.. the collaboration is part of proton efforts of cost control. Proton, for the past 3 – 4 years has been reorganizing its product lines in order to have greater cost efficiency. One of its efforts are to have collaboration with Mistubishi for its waja/perdana replacement model. By doing this, Proton can tackle the 1.8 – 2.0 liter market segment and at the same time put in more effort in developing its saga/persona/exora platforms (note.. not models.. but platforms).
Developing cars from scratch is not cheap (installing the turbo module onto the current campro engine cost Proton RM80 mil by the way… so you can imagine how much is needed to develop a waja or perdana-like model). And having too many platforms to develop at the same time would complicate matters further at the expense of quality.
analyzer…be cool. I bought an Exora and happy with it and I still keep my Honda Civics-FD and 2nd Generation. As for me my Exora,Civic FD and Civic 2nd Gen each come with its on character. I drive more my Exora lately than my Civic FD….i m proud and happy. I waited years for a real Proton and now i got one—>my Exora
i Agreeeeeeeeeeddddd 1000000%..
i can wait for the real evolution for Lancer GT… with a lotus handling! WOW!
tired la to explain to guys like this..
this is not ONLY copying, they have reach an agreement where mitsubishi use exora platform while proton given rights to rebagde this lancer.
again with power window. compare to KIA with serius engine (Naza Ria) and gearbox (Spectra) problem
agreed..
some ppl just leave a comment without using their head..
in +ve way, proton provides solution to buy ‘lancer’
yeah
go go proton
Agree with you…why does KIA becomes KIA as we know right now??..because they received support from their own local people eventhough the car was worse. But through the support from their government and people, KIA becomes KIA that we know of today because the koreans worshipped them…ive drove lots of proton cars from the first generations of until the latest models…ive felt improvement…lots of improvements…you can call me stupid or idiot but if you wanted me to choose between honda civics, accords, persona and gen-2, i will personally choose persona or gen-2…dont kept looking at the flaws but look at the improvement…dont expect a 25 years old car company with their own local people condemning them can emerge to be like toyota or honda…and lets not forget that toyota and honda also got some quality isues but people doesnt talk about them much because they are honda or toyota…
Also, KIA has been around waaay longer than Proton, what are you talking about? Proton rebadged cars for the first half of their life and are only NOW making their own cars for the past 12 years or so. KIA as a car company started in 1974. So check your history first.
yes certainly a great setback. Proton has started well ‘by doing their own’ with Neo, Persona and Exora. These models reflect Proton’s originality that were developed on its own resources. I bought the Exora after years of waiting for a ‘real’ Proton and I am happy with it. But with this WajaLancer Proton is no different from Perodua- patch and paste. Regret that Proton top management has decided to reverse the gear. …
sattian…..!!!!
i think u r among the people who didn’t understand what mean of calobration. For youe information, proton and mitshubishi have done an agrement which misbshi give lancer to proton and they get pesona for exchange. the rebadge model is one of marketing strategy. don say proton copying mitshubishi car, because they not copy, but rebadge the car..
we should proud wif proton because proton is the only company in Malaysia which design and produce its own car based on previous model like pesorna, gen2 waja satri nea blm and ezora. why u not condem preodua who copy toyota passo? why should proton to be blame. use ur brain bro..
i’m proud wif proton. to design a car not an easy task. a car have more than half millian part. every part must be design properly to produce it. can u do? in malaysia, we still didn’t have enought automotive enggineer, not as others field. the problem is automotive field not a luxury field to be join. not as oil n gas. so many graduate from automotive field didn’t continue thier way in automotive field.
Dude, please go for English classes, your grammar and spelling is quite Embarrassing. I would be personally humiliated if i were to dish someone but sound like a fool.
forget about grammar or proper english, he’s not writing for PHD in English literature here. he’s just trying to make a point,no matter how oblivious that may be
ill be more humiliated to have such rude manner such as yours abc, shame on you!
no matter how it been explain, i love it…dont get embarrassing to be here in malaysia..if you dont support malaysia…abc..which country did you from..??
Shame on you abc. We are not here to learn grammar. Shove an English dictionary up your butt ! Tq Sir.
Totally 100% agreed with u bro
…..most of the fatal accidents involves malaysia car. Still remember what happen to Princess Diana in Merz? Plz wake up, give a fair comment.
is a Volvo, I think~
fatal accidents involves malaysia car because it happen in MALAYSIA la ngok.. nobody talk about britain, china, alaska, peru…
Most accident happened involves car made in Malaysia because the number of Malaysian made cars on the road is relatively higher than foreign brands. We cannot blame this to the quality of Proton because there is no direct link to road accidents and Proton’s quality. Just my 2 cents.
to songorgon, i think proton must have their own automotive engineer. but they lack of ideas. i think they hired pekerja yang kurang kreativiti untuk design bentuk kereta yang canggih, elegen , garang mcm honda dan mitsubishi. why spain can produce great car seperti SEAT yang dapat masuk WTCC skrg…. why? kereta SEAT juga nampak canggih dan garang. padahal SEAT baru jer kita kenal….why proton can be like that. build a canggih car dengan engine yang besar. i think ada mamat yang dapat reka engin sendiri satu ketika dahulu. engin model E101 kalau tak silap i. mana perginya mereka skrg…why proton tak encourage them…. senyap sepi skrg engin tu…. kalau tak silap i persona yang keluar tu pun hasil rekaan kumpulan engineer proton yang terdiri daripada ramai perempuan daripada lelaki. bukan nak lemahkan perempuan, tapi u know what i mean.. lelaki yang banyak pakai kereta kan. when persona was lunch dulu, i ingat ia akan nampak lebih garang….padahal yang keluar, kereta yang lebih panjang sedikit daripada gen2……alahai….. keep going proton…..bina kereta guna acuan kita sendiri….modified jer persona dan waja tu jadi lebih canggih dan garang….perbaiki kelemahan yang terdahulu…belajar dari kesilapan….don’t busy nak ambik desing orang lain…buktikan yang malaysia boleh……kita join mitsubishi dulu cuma nak belajar dia punya teknologi…so skrg why takder kekuatan lagi selepas dah 25 years….?
Betul…!!!! 3000x
betul….100000x
SEAT guna platform volkswagen, SEAT pun macam Proton jugak, bagde engineering, tengok SEAT Alhambra, share platform dengan FORD Galaxy/Volkwagen Sharan
wahh bernass…….NISSAN….still my fav and i do drive nissan too….my 10 years old nissan are btter than saga blm…y i say that coz my wife has 1 n she like my car btter that her’s more smooth nice conering and speed? of course NISSAN…erk sorie…
Even to built a software from scratch to meet the people needs is really hard to do and takes million of ringgit just for the R&D. Inikan pulak sebuah kereta.Juz my 2 cent…
i dont think so.
Malaysia probably has very good and creative engineers. I think Proton might under contract with Mitsubishi that unable them to propose their own model.
Who knows?
Exora.. copy from Mitsubishi Grandis
i beg to differ. with 2.0 engines and some extra toys compare to Proton’s line up of a 1.6 and a 1.8, the demand for mitsu is likely going to be reasonable. still above 90K la, definitely.
If I’m a current Lancer owner, I’d jump off the building right now.
4 years down the road, people will just conclude that my Lancer is a Proton.
current waja cosr 65K so the new one if can be like with price tag for this car from 65-70K using their 1.6 campro cps model M-line 16″rim. H-line with leather seat and full dual airbag, ebd and gps, 17″rim might be cost near to 85-90k ^^ or might be add modded r3 ekzos system (fuyoh~!) and some carbon fibre add another 10k (sport version) with 18″rim ^^
tats right… u can do nth n most of the ppl will change the proton badge to Mistubishi…
yeah rite.. and most people change perodua badge to Toyota / Daihatsu badge.
I owned 1 too.. don’t be in this segment if you have no brains… focus on malaysian market.. do not spoil others.. we already pay high tax to save proton! see what happened to perodua nautica (=toyota rush), I never see nautica on the road. Do you think japan selling proton exora (CBU)? I hope this car fail! I also think, those proton buyer will change everything on the same day they receive the car… many ah-beng shops.
no need to beg differ la, they using same engine 2.0, haha.
This is so stupid…I tot proton no more copycat…
and guys who bought Lancer sure shock, coz Proton Lancer also can join their Lancer Club… hahahahahaha
aril ni mesti minat nak pakai lancer nih…tapi tak kesampaian…..kesian……
Either Lancer price will drop or Proton price go up? I don’t think any will happen…like Wira & Lancer…no different. But I’m glad Proton bringing another quality Mitsubishi product to Malaysian. But one thing I hope is they use Campro engine, not Mitsubishi…if use Mitsubishi we’ll see a new generation of “Wira Evo” causing more accidents & deaths on our roads.
Complain, Complain, Complain…. what else can you all do.
If you think designing is easy, then design one.
If you think it is easy to built and build one.
What on earth came out perfect?
Nothing perfect and definitely not even us. So… why complaining.
If you want it, you buy it but if you don’t just, shut the hell up!
For those who has problem with Proton, tell it to Proton.
We should proud of our product.
And for Proton, I think they listening! To me, you and all of us!
They have their goals.
Imagine that EVO were firstly and originally made by Proton, what do you think?
I’ll be proud!
Even Toyota have problem, so do Honda, and many others.
But they change. Why don’t we accept changes.
Rebadged? No problem!
As long as Proton want to here what people going to say about their weaknesses,
learn and built something new.
Everything starts from somewhere.
We start from here.
just price it right & bank interest should be same as Original Lancer? NATIONAL CAR LOAN INTEREST ALWAYS HIGH!!!
so wok..
what do u expect from comment column here???
lyrics from Celine Dion songs?.. cake recipe?.. Manchester game schedule?..
erotic story?…
dia tak expect apa2…cuma dia mau lani orang semua berhenti dok buat komen2 ni semua…dan beli proton sebab dia pun buka satu cawangan dok juai reta proton ni…tu yg dok rasa mcm geram sangat ni ..awat la depa2 ni semua dok complain pasai proton ni…in future kalu nak malaysian branded cars,make by malaysian people,built in malaysian soil,used malaysian source…1st nak habaq bagi..produce la anak2 malaysian yg cerdik pandai,genius,berwibawa,intergreti,budi pekerti,berhemah tinggi…asyik dok kempen mari membaca…mari bersenam…mari mengamalkan gaya hidup sihat…mri itu mari ini tapi tak pernah ada kempen nak membina satu bengkel mari berinovasi…bengkel pembangunan otomotif rekaan dlm semua segi tak kira mekanikal,kejuruteraan mahupun reka bentuk…yg dok ada hanya untuk budak2 sekolah saja,itu pun pasai nak masuk pertandingan…banyak pomen2 kat malaysia yg boleh modified jadi mcm2…belambak kat jln raya,hari2 boleh tengok mcm reka bentuk…yg penting kalu nak semua boleh jadi nak habaq bagi…hangpa pernah tengok waja ada sayap mcm ‘lambogini’ ada kuasa Vtec tapi bukan enjin v tec…bunyi mcm ferrari tapi WAJAri…haaaa…hangpa tak pernah tengok lagi ni…hangpa mai penang mcm2 ada…suma tak boleh terbang lagi je..klau boleh terbang tak la aku..tapi dlm usaha nak buat mcm back to the future punya kereta…la ni kereta terbang dah ada hangpa jgn tak tau…
wok y r u mad? tis is forum we share…not private room 3 or 4 people only can hear…if u cannot tahan with people say y dx u just read bur dx write…u think proton listen to wat we said? among all the model proton has come aout of 100% how many are real image of us? not copy mtshubihi? 80% u know it self wok…that the fact here stop copy others look….create new car design…not copy other that wat all tis forumer wan…yes i also proud of proton but i hate it when they copy others design..that all…look at wv u just see the car u know it wv just a glimps of look at it…but when u see at wiralution..u need to see twice so then u know it wira or a real lancer..its image dude image…just like u want to smoke a cigaratte…u buy rokok ERA for rm2.50 and put it on a DUNHILL box…act u smoke a nice expensive one but actually its a fake!!
For those who think they were good enough and had enough to buy any other car then buy it. I have no offense and will not feel offened about it. In fact I feel proud because you had what you need and I’m proud of what Malaysia had eventhough some of us don’t appreciate it.
Lately I heard 1 bad news and 3 good new. The bad news is “The recall”. If they don’t bother about the quality of their car why should they call for it back. You know how much they spend to do that. Million. Yes. Million ladies and gentlemen. Hmmm… seems to me the bad news has become a good news since they heard people comment and of cause complain. the second one and whicheverybody already know about it and many of you don’t feel proud of it is that still the car that you who don’t like it so called waja replacement model still coming up wether you like it or not. And the third one is Proton Emas. They going to proceed to do the mass production it. Isn’t something overthere.
We may have good designers but to realy put one so called “Car” on the road is not cheap. It need time, efford and lot of money. To do a crash test alone need million. You want to drive just any car wether you know it safe for you, your family and others life? You know how did european car got their name from? From all the hard ship they have done throughout all these year. Since 1885 and that is more then hundred year before. Even long before you and I were born. Proton were founded in 1983 and that ladies and gentlemen were hundred years later.
We as Malaysiand should be greatful cause it’s not easy to built a car. It not DIY shop where you can just walk in and choose any of the part and just stick it together. It’s the technologies and those come with a lot of money, effort and time consuming. What I may think at the moment was done by Proton now is to bring these technologies from outside to invest in Malaysia and slowly we learn these technologies and we produce our own.
So… I still thinking that our Proton still new in this business and need a lot of effort. And by the way, don’t you think other Asian country don’t jealous at us? Yes they do and yet, we as the citizen and the owner of our car don’t proud of our own car.
Kalau tak dapat gading bertuah, tanduk pun masih berguna juga.
did u all notice when Proton launch a new model the price of the car sure Heboh one coz it aint cheap for the rakyat to embrace.we r paying today price n yesterday technology.i got bitten when i buy my first waja now even the use car dealer also TAK NAK!
Lancer owners will definitely ‘BANG BALLS”!!!!
Even i can be more creative than that!!! No harm sharing the same body or chasis, but put in some effort to make significant changes lah…. Proton is not NAZA!! They are expected to do better than just re-badging!! What are the designers in the R&D doing? Hatching eggs? What a let down!!!
try do your own concept car……
how much cost for developt this car? 1bilion? or 2? just developt front n rear bumper hehhee
atlasst! affordable car, i salute proton strategy to boost their sale…but..and as usual…our malaysian evo fanatic wil replace the proton badge and replace it with mitsu emblem..thats why we heard name like waja evo..wira evo..saga fiore..but worst is to install AWD system to the new waja..ouchh…
No LCD screen 2DIN like EX version… oh my…
It already confirm that the body, engine & gearbox will be using Mitsubishi lancer. So the full spec 2.0L would be the same wif CVT!
I highly doubt that they would come out with full spec 2.0 because of the proton clause of having max 1.6L. I heard that they will be introducing 1.8L soon into their line but i’m not too sure about that.
I think most prob this waja variant would be the 1.5 mivec engine that they have in singapore.
Then again I have no resource to back me up. Just speculating.
http://oneshift.com.sg/pdb/car_photos.php?pid=1292
Perdana’s a 2 liter. And Waja once had a 1.8 sourced from Renault.
sure will be cost down version.. 1.3 and a.6 i bet
if it’s 1.5, it’s really underpowered because of its heavy chasis.
They still using the original mitsubishi engines 1.8L and 2.0L MIVEC.Do you think Mitsubishi is too stupid to let Proton to drop the image of Mitsubishi globally by using Campro engine.This is totally a rebadging model.Just like KIA Forte, Kia Picanto, Kia Carens and so many Kia rebadging by NAZA. Just forget about any other things.Just imagine when Naza sell Kia (NAZA)Forte 2.0L for RM 92k, I’m sure Proton will sell this Mitsubishi (Proton)Lancer 2.0GT around that price too.This is the name of the game from Proton and Mitsubishi.It’s very clear.
Waja Chancellor is also a 2.0L. we also have 1.8L satria GTi and 1.8L Proton Wira
nobody ever buy the chancellor… i think, it was damn expensive, >RM120k
Then where is the P1’s campro gonna be?
i think campro should not even be in the picture.
proton already have a very good selling sedan using campro 1.6 – the persona.
putting 1.6 campro in this lancer body would not only result in underpower but also affect the persona market.
therefore, i think they will go with the bigger capacity mitsubishi engines.
after all, persona and waja are not supposed to be too close to each other in terms of class. this is so that proton can take advantage of wider market range.
oh my goodness!!!!
i never expect they really come out with this replacement.
i thought they would use a previous generation lancer!!!
this lancer was launched 3 years ago. an all new lancer is not far away. this lancer is almost in its ‘previous’ generation… ha ha
this be great….a cheap lancer…huhuhuhu….come on P1, how bout re-badge more mtsu model, …cfirm ppl will start buying/have more confident wt a mitsu re-badge + u’ll save development cost…forget self develop platform, in todays mkt…platform sharing will reduce cost!
The current Lancer was called 2008 Lancer, just Malaysia launch earlier with limited units in 2007. Where got 3 years old?
finally….
this rebadged thing will definately work for PROTON… and proud of it…
Back to SQUARE ONE!
you hav to admit it that some top brands also do this rebadge thing.
The previous formula works for P1 in the past, and even for current P2 cars. If square one works, why change something that is not broken?
If square one is OK with P1, why invest so much money in R & D.
agreed…if u don’t have econ of scales…why waste $$ on R&D
its a win2 situation. P1 got to rebadge Lancer and Mitsui can use Exora platform.
…this is awful and rather disappointing, the WAJA is suppose to be the 1st all proton designed car and they should keep it that way… they shouldn’t take the easy way out and just re-badged the Lancer. They are eating their own words.. sigh!
Nope, the Waja platform was source from the Volvo s40 and Mitsubishi Carisma. The easy way is the only way, Petronas cannot provide blank cheques anymore for funding frivolous projects.
I’ve said many, many times. This is NOT BACK TO SQUARE ONE! Because in addition to this car, they have their own Persona R coming out in 2012. This car caters to a niche market, and so rightly they decided to focus on their best selling cars. So many car makers are also doing this.
this car cater to niche market? are u on drug?
I think it’s called a Proton Evolah, a re-badge Lotus Evora and it’s going for like RM500,000 (Special Edition), so all you plebeians need not apply.
Proton announced that they only expected limited demands on this model, not niche market?????
limited demand= niche market?
limited demand because they cannot fight with those big player at that price range!! hahahaah
I thought the world was suppose to end in 2012? Only then will Proton design, build, make its own cars? Die la like that. Hhahahaha.
a japanese wearing batik and u r proud of it. Are you proud of the japanese or the batik?
I dun care abt this proud thingy…as long as its cheaper than the non-rebadge lancer, good quality & affordable …i’m happy…
I agree with you on affordable part but good quality??? Let’s wait and see….
Proud of it? hahah…what is proud of re-badge and stealing all those R&D fund.
a circumsised japanese car and become a malaysian car… ha ha ha… whatever it is, consumer loves cheap and quality products.
Nice one. hope the price and spec is reasonable.
hope the RRP will be around 70 – 85 depend on the accessories.
wow law
Paul, recently someone told me that Lancer is now meant for Perdana replacement and Proton is currently doing some re-segmentation of their cars….
There will be no more Waja lines in the future (Waja CPS is the last) and Persona will take over Waja segment since they are overlapping…
The Lancer will not feature steering paddle shift from what i heard and will have the same engine and transmission as the current Lancer in the market… Proton only do bumper and front grill modifications (as verified in the snapshots)…
Can you verify this information…?
If I can still remember, the Perdana will get a replacement model of a Galant. Which is actually Loooooooooooong overdue.
Yup agree. Perdana was mentioned long time ago to be replaced by some Galant model but during recent tt session, a ‘friend’ mentioned Proton opted to do some re-org resulting Lancer will replace Perdana instead and Persona will takeover Waja lines… I’m not sure how true this piece of info (its a teh tarik topic) but it does sound logical…. and the launch is around the corner…
why dont replace with mazda3 or camry? looks better~
mazda3 looks —> maybe
camry looks —> i doubt
good point bro, but when considering the perdana is usually provided as an official ride for high ranking ‘goverment officials’ i doubt the lancer platform can deliver an executive look and seriousness to cater for the perdana line. A galant model wuld be best suited for the job imho. but hey, who knows, if the gov officials decided to mod their ride to evo 10s and come to parliment in such style wuld be great yeah?. LoL.
rebatch lexus lo, executive right? or range rover or mercedes, they are buying it, with or without proton :)
once they said was Passat ler
Nope, its certainly not just cosmestic.
i’ve seen the snapshot of the interior…and yes..there will be a paddle shift as i saw it…
According to a ‘good friend’ at the company, Waja will exist only that they will re-segment it to a 1.8 and 2.0 market. It will now compete with Civic and Altis. Perdana replacement model (PRM) will have a minimum 2400 cc engine and compete with the likes of accord and Camry. PRM was supposed to be a rebadged VW model but since that didnt materialize when the talks ended, it now will either be a SAIC model or Mitsubishi model.
Actually, I had found somewhere in the internet an interior spyshot of this waja lancer and there is a paddle shifter.
Waja replacement is Civic category whereas Persona is Vios/City category. The new Perdana will be much bigger and compete in Camry/ Accord segment.
Lancer / Waja / Civic / Gen2 / Persona = Compact Class
Vios/ City / Saga = Sub-Compact Class
Perdana / Camry / Accord = Mid-size Class
Hmmm…. I wonder how Lancer can fit in as Perdana replacement…
dun forget savvy hahahaha :P
IMHO, WajaCPS has some points in his post. the Lancer’s wheelbase at 2,635mm is exactly the same dimension as Perdana V6 while the new Galant’s wheelbase is even longer at 2,750mm.
not much to be confused there, its just time has changed.
This is not going to be good news for “Real” Mitsubishi Lancer owner…
there will be more waja lancer make over after this time > to be real mitsui lancer hahaha
i can imagine the aftermarket bodykit shops and accessories dealers already busy whipping up EVo X inspired designs for this babe.. kachingg.. $$$$
don’t think it’s necessary leh
just put the original lancer bodykits also can already
hehe
agreed! first i thought i will never able to get the mitsu one…
but this…. i think i’m possible to get one soon! =D alrite!
working hard and get some money….then u can have real mitsubishi cars and not the ciplak cars.
pity to the original lancer buyers..
pity???for what?
hahaha…
mamat ni mesti tengah jealous tngk org lain yang naik real lancer nih….tu la …dulu org suruh belajar rajin2, u main-main….skrg org yang belajar hard dulu boleh pakai kereta yang bagus, u jealous kat dia org pula…..kesiannyer…..senang duhulu susah kemudian….adios
Nice, wished they changed the rear lights to something a little more conventional or LEDs. Plus, the Rim’s gotta go.
The rims are the FIRST thing to go. Hihihi…
Wonder what will happen to those owner who bought the real lancer @ 100K++. Soon or later our road will flood with this ah beng’s lancer.
More interesting:
more EVO X (convert) will flood the road =D
Hahaha !!! Nicely spoken !!!
Hahaha.. nice one…
Wonder what is the engine size? 1.8 or 2 litre?
will have 1.8 and 2.0 variant..both have different spec
it was expected to be a low spec 1.6 (using Proton’s own campro SP4H) and a high spec 1.8 sourced from mitsu.
price wise…. surly more expensive than waja/persona but in order to attract sales from chevy cruze and naza forte, should be lower. i estimate to be in the region of 70-85K.
Maybe 1.5 mivec.
http://oneshift.com.sg/pdb/car_photos.php?pid=1292
at least now.. the wajarian won’t need to heavily modify the waja to looks like lancer
me like…lol
It’s just a rebadged Mitsubishi Lancer with Proton grille in front. Other than that, it looks exactly the same as Lancer. Even the rear lights are the same. No big deal. Nothing to shout about. No originality. I think the price may be around RM78,000 to RM80,000 for 1.8L variant. From what I know, WRM will be produced in 1.8L and 2.0L variants. The present Mitsubishi Lancer is already 4 years old and Proton only rebadges this model now. It looks like Proton has gone back to rebadging Mitsubishi cars after such a long time. I don’t think this car can sell in big numbers because it is produced in 1.8L and 2.0L variants.
On the contrary, I think this Proton model will sell like hot cakes.
There are many drivers out there who love to own a Mitsubishi Lancer but cannot afford the price tag. This model will fulfill the dreams of many Malaysians.
no problem to own rebadged Lancer….but Proton, pls maintain exact same or better dashboard quality feel, body metal…….
basically a cbu lancer lah , kan! lol! cheapskate!
I believe the price should be below RM70K or maximum RM75K.If above that,I don’t think people would go for it as Honda City would be a better choice. You may say that the CC is different but we want reliability.
Honda City is better than Lancer????? are you serious?
proton waja better than honda city?! you cannot be serious!
i dun want to say u are nuts…
there is no way Proton can sell a rebadge lancer below 70k, not even the 1.8L variant with those lousy rims.
and Honda City better than Lancer??? you must be living in different planet.
Honda City is not that reliable and maintenance cost can be as high as Honda Civic’s.
afterall, since this Lancer will be a Proton car, the maintenance cost should be lower than the award winning yet cut-throat Kah Motor Honda after sales service.
then there will be lots of new proton ‘WRM lancer look alike’ owners gonna rebadge their cars into mitsubishi lancer…haha…
i Like!
yeah, it will certainly fulfill the hope of making Malaysia a high-income nation – driving a fake, low-spec, low everything Lancer. lol.
next project, Proton should re-badge Merc, then Jaguar and for Perdana, re-badge Rolls Royce…high income nation, here we come, in our fake-rebadge cars brought to you by Potong. lol
i guess , when time past…you wil swallow ur words :-D
If it is a replacement for Perdana (Paul please check on this) then the car will definitely replace if not all government cars fleet.
In term of pricing, well its a CKD versus CBU i think…
sorry man …i think malaysian road will flooded with “EVO 10” after this “COPY” launched….
Not sell in big numbers??
I seriously don’t think so..
Most of middle income group who can’t afford ori Mitsu Lancer have been waiting so long for this.. For sure this is going to be a ‘phenomenon’ just like P2 introduce Myvi to the market.. still remember?
How much will it be?
The grille looks like a ‘smiley’ face instead of Lancer’s usual ‘angry shark’ grille. Can’t wait to see the real one. A bit disappointing to see that Proton choose 16 inch rims instead of 17″.
Just my 2 sen.
hmm.. they don’t want the customer complaining the price for 17″ tyres price. with this rim, the customer can decide to upgrade it to the larger size. i think that is not the main issue.. =D
The price gap 16″ and 17″ is not as big as before, thanks to the popularity of 17″
yup rite.. but for family person, the RM50 diff for each tyres is a lot for them. btw, the cheapest price for 17″ tyre is around RM220 each (indonesia made), correct me if i wrong.
it maybe 16″ but it has 5 nuts..
and many many more nuts around here…in form of proton basher…
walauweh….directly can convert to evo10 after came out the dealership……hehehe
good opportunity for u to contribute to JPJ :-D
aiya…just change the bumper only alredi look like EVO 10… i dunt think it is related to JPJ issue isn’t it?
Its ok to change the bumper but once u’ve changed the badge from proton to mitsubishi, then it would cost u a problem… I’ve been summoned once because of using toyota badge on my myvi before but the officer said that it would cost me problem since u r paying for the insurance for the car..
Let say if u involved in an accident, the other parties claimed that they hit a mitsubishi’s car.. In their report claimed that its a mitsu, u cant claim insurance since ur car was insured under proton’s
name…so, u pay insurance for nothing… ( because some guys out there if they know u drive a proton but they still want make a report that u drove a mitsu based on ur badge,becoz they know u cant claim insurance by doing dat- busuk hati punya org)
Just share here though.. ;)
niceeeee……….
cant wait to have this….wanna replace my Persona with this…..cooollllll
hahah, i’m soooo excited
really looking forward for this.
but I hope they do a HUGE change at least to the body kit cause from this picture its still looks like lancer. make it look special.
Nice…
Back to the rebadging business!
What say u, Dr M?
Yes, following the likes of Peugeot and Citroen and many other established car manufacturer…
I’ve said many, many times. This is NOT A STEP BACK! Because in addition to this car, they have their own Persona R coming out in 2012. This car caters to a niche market, and so rightly they decided to focus on their best selling cars. So many car makers are also doing this.
Why can’t you dumb bashers get that through your thick skulls?!
who wants your persona R?
what is R?
Golf R = 4 wheel drive, turbo, 250++HP.
your persona R got wat? bodykit? why keep talking R ?
It’s so much fun looking at these Proton apologist get frustrated and kick up a rant.
biasa la these bashers… they know nuts about developing cars.. persona r cud be a persona with the turbo charged campro.. who knows?
cant wait for the persona replacement model… i heard that it looks rather interesting…
Once this car is on the road I forsee plenty Evo 10 lookalikes. Just like in the Wira days with plenty Evo 1-2-3 look-a-likes.
But seriosly Proton does need a larger sedan to replace the 10 year old Waja. Badge engineered or not, I believe Proton’s trademark suspension & handling will be evident
No changes at all except for the badge? That’s like zero development cost!
Kasi tukar la sikit Proton, lampu depan dan belakang..
If they tukar the lampu, people will tukar back to the “original” (read: Lancer) punya.
The whole idea is to let people drive a Lancer at more affordable price …. (while making good money of course).
;-)
but i guess a littile change on the rear lamp should be done so that Proton ade la skit ciri tersendiri…
just my seposen.
maybe u need to test drive it first..maybe they re-engineered the suspension system too..
impossible. if they do that, might as well put their own engine in, and make another car.
you really think proton engineered the suspension and handling? they all out source to lotus, ali baba style. they outsource only, very difficult? just like how they build a house, set up a company, build a bridge. Just out source, and they shake their leg
they put proton identity infront….
Development doesn’t mean everything new…. localisation of the parts also need development in order to meet the standard of actual part from Japan…
lu ingat perodua bagus sangat kah?
From the looks of it… size wise… it seems the new Waja is competing with Persona in the same segment… is it wise?
Have you ever see the new Lancer stood side by side with Persona? That Lancer is huge! Even in Japan, they have to call it Galant as it move a class above the previous Lancer, sizewise.
why bother if it is wise or not… competition will benefit consumer, that’s you.!
“Paul, recently someone told me that Lancer is now meant for Perdana replacement and Proton is currently doing some re-segmentation of their cars….
There will be no more Waja lines in the future (Waja CPS is the last) and Persona will take over Waja segment since they are overlapping…”…quote from other reader
due to huge masking I couldn’t comment so much on the looks, but I heard that it has hand pedal shifters for both 1.8 & 2.0 model…
that’s sold me – esp. for Waja replacement model…
way 2 go P1…
So after designing n making car on their own , dare i say it , getting good at that too. Proton now decide to jump backward by making an exact copy of others? What is this? i know it would be a “wajalancer” but this is in yer face copying!! Why cant they just use the platform n design proton own “wajalancer” ?
hahaha… it will the same bro.. if they are change 50% from the current design, the people will change it back to the current lancer look.. so no point you can call it wajalancer if you can’t conver it to lancer.. just my POV.. =P
Copying is what Chinese car makers are doing. Proton is re-badging and that is a totally different business. Furthermore, if you care to read Paultan blog at all, there was a post about platform sharing between Proton and Mitsubishi. So, maybe Mitsubishi is going to re-batch some Proton cars. New Saga or Exora, perhaps.
Mitsubishi doesn’t need any crappy cars from Proton. It will do more harm than good if they rebadge a Proton. Shit design/ shit quality. Suspension/ handling, nothing to shout about.
“Proton signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with Mitsubishi in late 2008 to rebadge Mitsubishi’s existing Lancer platform as a replacement for Proton’s Waja model. In return, Mitsubishi would rebadge Proton’s Persona and Exora models to as Mitsubishi to be marketed in certain countries. The earlier agreement would also see Proton and Mitsubishi jointly developed a small hatchback, likely a replacement for Proton’s Savvy model after this year.”
http://www.theborneopost.com/?p=22430
Go read it you dumb basher!
Oh look it’s the Proton Propaganda Machine again!
Maybe they want to save cost on design.
Sure, u supply them with RM 1 billion for the development of so called ‘wajalancer’
i tell u lil bit ..why…. the cost of stamping machine itself almost the same as their profit…. so this is cheapest way… no need RnD…no tooling Development…Easy Maintenance…
alahai lu ni…
citroen pon ade rebadge, Peugeot pon same…
subaru pon same, nissan pon same…
nk ckp make sure u have d knowledge…
ni tak, pasal proton rebadge je, sume org kutuk…
otak sempit!!
kalau rebadge aje, tak payah have car industry! so why the need to protect proton?! liberalise the market lah!
If takde car industry.. mcmana nak rebadge.. bodo betul
Many semua org kutuk? Ko tak tengok banyak yang cakap bes kerr? Tak berotak lagi buta…
Lets hope the quality also resembles Mitsubishi. And I suggest if it’s >95% same with Mits car, why don offer user to use their logo/badge. If Proton is to use their very own brand they must at least put in some modification to show some re-engineering (besides Lotus Handling), as to give it an identity. Else, I think it’s very reasonable to use Mits Logo.
so it will becoming the same issue as with (Naza) Kia Forte’s owners switching NAZA emblem to KIA. My friend who just bought a NAZA FORTE purchased a KIA emblem from the net. So in this case i forsee front grille for lancer is lucrative business… ha…ha…
hemm……..proton really knows how to excite people…….
yeah!!! me excited toooo..
it is as exciting watching paint dry. sigh another rebadge.
you think your Myvi is not a rebadged?
my myvi comes out of a japanese run assembly line and not a half arse product from tg malim. if proton is so great, then the govt should charge full excise duty on all protons since it is so hard for cash!
japanese run?
eh .. sorry to say…. it’s not toyota japan whose controling perodua..it’s UMW toyota.. so it’s tanjung malim style
it seem u have been fool by the p2.. did you know, if they buy the tooling from japan and make the part here.. it will be cost down and maybe your myvi is about rm 30k… hahaha.. whay a pity~
owh yeah.. me oso so Xcited.. nasib baik dah ada duit down payment kereta.. this is called berkat kesabaran…. a gift from god to one who waited so long for a new car hahaha… tapi budjet dalam 70-80 je.. if more than that.. ayak. beli vios je lah..
after 25 years, proton goes back to its roots…
And pity to those hard-core Proton ‘lovers’ who bash Perodua ‘kaw-kaw’ for being a ‘rebadging’ kind of manufacturer when Proton is now going back to their ‘roots’ that took them to where they are now!!!!
How ironic! So how to degrade Perodua now?…
produa rebadge daihatsu, proton rebadge mitsu.. different class. hahaha
Can. because unlike Perodua, Proton have the Persona R waiting in the wings to be released. It’s NOT a rebadge. Unlike Perodua who doesn’t even have own car to make. Master of bumper changing only!
what is Persona R?….u r dreaming its goin to be like Civic Type R? Golf R, Skyline GTR?…..the most they goin to do is change bumper and change lights…n maybe put in their overhyped turboengine which gonna guzzle fuel the same as MaCamPro….
Tak habis2 lagi ke dengan Persona R hang nie..aiyo
This is a uneducated basher that i have found in paultan. Since when proton said that they want to produce persona type R?? they just call the persona REPLACEMENT and not yet named it by the comercial name… i think it is easier to talk with 10 years old kid.
This is an uneducated basher that i have found in paultan. Since when proton said that they want to produce persona type R?? they just call the persona REPLACEMENT and not yet named it by the comercial name… i think it is easier to talk with 10 years old kid.
you must be really dumb… proton is exchanging platforms with mitsu. not like perodua that got nothing at all and just rebadging.
2 thumbs up for wajalancer!!
Even though I’m a P1 basher, the sense of patriotism inside me tells me that this car isn’t something to be proud of. It does not qualify as Malaysian made, period.
we do not owe a socalled national carmaker any obligation to buy them out of a sense of patriotism. it doesnt excuse them from making half ass product and expect us to buy them.
Who cares.We only care our dream car where ever it comes from.
wonder how current lancer owner gonna feel when this car being launch..
why cant proton proton produce their own design?
i thought with the born of waja in 2000,they gonna make all design themselves..
great job fahmil n paul for posting this… i was hoping proton would change the headlight and taillamp like what they did with wira so that it doesnt resemble lancer too much… i like the lancers headlamp and taillight but, wouldnt it be nice if proton could come up with something nicer? but i guess it’s all about cost saving?
yeah…. i did hope they can change it… at least there is difference between Mitsu Lancer and the gonna-be-new Proton Lancer.
-sigh-
but who cares? lancer GT affordable price is on its way :)
LOL! Malaysian Wajalution wet dream answered!
soon to be Proton Wajavo X
paul, could you ask theo to photoshop the taped up area? im sure he could come up with something…
yey! he’s done it on the new topic!
nice car..but copycat same like perodua
The Proton Waja was supposed to be our first national car designed independently by our engineers. So what happened to these creative engineers??? Have they run out of ideas???
Nope it is not about ideas or creativity… its more about economic of scale and above all cost…
Those are just BS to make u feel good in buying Potong.
They run away… Join other companies…
Now P1 do not have many… so cut segmen maaaa…
half own car half rebadge (esp with 1.8 engine n above) more economical…
Anyway the most profitable partiest all this while is the bank…
Min investment cost, just spare some money, people lend… kutip interest… bla bla blaa…
Umm the previous waja was also rebadged from mitsu lancer… i think the first all proton design would be Gen2/Savvy/Satria Neo
i dun think the first gen Waja should be called a “rebadge”, as the look was locally designed. Rebadge should be like this time, almost everything is the same with the “original”, especially the look.
reassigned to rebadge biz.. designing bumper and spoiler..
last but not least, sticking the proton thunder cat badge.
I am certain owners of the current Mitsubishi Lancer is going to lose a fair bit of their car value if Proton sells it below the RM90K threshold.
ganti bumper evo now u have a ori mitsu
copycat
who??
PERODUA???
at lease P1 did produce its own cars (gen2, neo, savvy, exora, persona..etc)
and soon will produce a new model too (Persona replacement, EMAS, etc)..WHAT?? DONT YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT??? Prfthhhhh….
rebatch 1model is not like the end of the world laa..
P2 – rebatch forever.. and all the P2 gays proud of it… ptuiii..
P2 rather copy from a successful company, than create your own failure.
well, i know you from kampung petani to japan, so you still have your kampung thinking, hahahaha.
muka tebal, rather fail, than learn from the giant. Failure for the rest of your life!!!
saw a red lancer hatcback or the lancer SUV last sat nite a penang too. the name and logo were tapped.
another cheap re-badge or could be the cheapest re-badge? anyway.. its good for us.. good car, lower price.. proton get to keep the employee.. keep up the “good” work
Nice!! Yup, i agree that the front grill will be same design as persona’s grill.
Any red colour Waja…this is what we are waiting for….nice..
yellow also will be nice =)
Hmm. they left it there while they went for nasi kandar? Looks intentional.
Interior still looks the same. hopefully they don’t change a lot, As we know proton ain’t too brilliant in interior design.
the biggest con for malaysian yet again. change the front grill. there you have it! malaysian car. 25 years and this is the best trick in Protons books..
depressing
its like you dont read international news at all…
manufacturers rebadge models all the time… even in this case P1 only rebadge 1 model… other models still represent P1 self style & quality whether good or bad… Unless every model from P1 is rebadged version (like P2) then maybe it is a con…
This is actually very good… Malaysians can now have Lancer with cheaper price… dont you think?
I think I have to agree with you thought I am against the ideal of rebadging.
yeah.. and the p2 put the price sky high… and what we all said, it is local design ma.. it is reasonable price.. hahaha.. and thanks to proton because after rebadging the mitsubishi, they put the price lower and can be afford by local.. hahaha
P2 put price skyhigh? the saga blm is 40k, and last time it was 20k only.
persona is wat? 60k? that is affordable? hahahhahah
proton lover like you must go and book this lancer…..IF you can afford it. lol.
eh
viva 1.0 45 k not overprice ah?
what a good comparison.. and MYvi always mark up 2k each facelift.. haha
this is ali baba carmaking at its finest ma! we calima the credit for being a carmaker but subcon to the japs ma! proton bulleh!
we don’t opposed the ‘rebadge’ work on any model. it’s just the fact that we are kinda ashamed of what we have gone through for 25 years, the end product is like ‘that’. how long do we need to take to ACTUALLY design/make a car as good/beautiful as this lancer? do we really need to do ‘rebadging’? are we not smart/competent enough to do this?
IMHO, this is how proton wants to make big bucks in shorter time. buy a blueprint/die, change front and back bumper, minimize safety features, use cheaper steel/alum, bulk orders on engines parts, assemble, put a badge, then sell. of course this car make a good fortune, weighted from the legacy of the original family!
p/s:wondering where the h*ll is our engineers..
you are right.. how bout ford/mazda? fiesta and mazda2 are 2 different car rite?
other car maker should be a lot shame more..they hav more history than proton
P1 are failure. unless you all own mazda and ford car before, otherwise, you must let us bash P1, becos i have 2 more P1 car at home, so i can bash it!!!!!
Its front grille should retain as much as possible the original Lancer front grille because typical Proton nose is ugly. If the car is priced fairly(below 80K), it will definitely be a hit on the road. I guess those Mitsubishi Lancer owners will be worrying on the resale value of their cars now.
why is the exora escort taped up?
I hope the safety features are the same. This will be a MyVi killer if is has all the international safety features.
myvi killer?
are you saying that a 3-series is competing with S-class?
I am saying that a proton saga (no safety features) competing with Honda City (With safety features). not 3-series (with safety features) vs S-Class (with safety features + and unnecessary stuff like LCD, GPS, 7.1 stereo system)
I believe most people don’t need a luxury car. All proton needs to do is give the people a quality car with all the necessary safety features. If the price tag is 10K more than a MyVi, I believe most people will be more than happy to pay for it.
You can’t buy life with money. Safety feature is very important. Leaving AP and the high car price aside, RM15k additional stretched over a period of 7 years is not really a big amount.
old saga or new saga blm? r u sure?
true..true..all proton need to do is manufacture a good quality product on par with other international car manufacturer if not better.i’m not asking for a superb performance engine.just a nice…not half baked quality car.. :)
Bro, it is two different car segment…
rims is fugly >_<
maybe for 1.8 version (like lancer gs)
proton know malaysians taste..
politically its a bad move for proton to rebadge a mitsubishi.
the whole reason for proton to exist is for malaysian to build up enough expertise to engineer our own cars.
but now, people will point a finger at the proton waja/lancer and say that after 25 years,
we are still back to using other ppl cars.
Re-badging is now the current practise for many car manufacturer now. Yes after 25 years Proton should have enough expertise, but my friend, the number one thing people tend to overlook is the amount of money involved when creating or developing a new model…. Most manufacturer now is looking for ways to reduce the cost of producing a new car and Proton is following the trend….
If the trend is going backward like you say it is then check some of re-badging from another manufacturers that happened in recent years…
1. Nissan Cherry – Alfa Romeo Arna
2. SEAT Exeo – Audi A4
3. Renault Logan – Dacia Logan
4. Kia Towny/Towner – Daihatsu Hijet
5. Mazda B-Series – Ford Ranger
6. Holden Jackaroo – Isuzu Trooper
7. Inokom Atos – Hyundai Atos
8. Citroen C-ZERO / Peugeot iOn – Mitsubishi i
9. Toyota Voltz / Matrix – Pontiac Vibe
10. Nissan Kubistar – Renault Kangoo Express
11. Nissan Platina – Renault Clio Symbol
12. Saab 9-2X – Subaru Impreza
13. Maruti Swift – Suzuki Swift
14. Fiat Sedici – Suzuki SX4
15. Citroen C1 / Peugeot 107 – Toyota Aygo
16. Aston Martin Cygnet – Toyota iQ
and many more will come in future….
So, big manufacture like Citroen and Peugeot are going backward by re-badging?
How about other local manufacturer like Naza and Perodua?
those cars are gone through ‘re-engineering’ with a lot of changes made to keep it away from its original look/design. but this lancer, almost nothing we’re made to make it look different. an ah tiong custom bumper is also able to make those bumper.
How do you know??re-engineering????haha…u r so funny…
proton re-engineered the badge. which many new waja owners will swap back to mitsu.
wat is redesign?????wat????????they all design wat??tell me…???which car u mean re-engineering??funny..y ppl try to tunjuk pndai instead duno anything..u never see the car then smply comment…haha..they all do same like p1 and p2 la..think laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…………..
ur head la…ah tiong wer got gud mold bumper..and cheap material…
last saga generation is from lancer correct me if mistake…i don see it look so similar….even exora mule look same with other mpv but come with diff design
You’re an Idiot and people like you makes Malaysia today = ZERO INNOVATION.
Look at your listing, most of these Car manufacturer have come a long way in terms of innovation and recognition and they have built great cars in the pass.
In terms of costing in designing a new car for new segment, which they don’t have, they are sharing others platform in terms by exchanging technologies to improve market share. What did PROTON ever achieve in its pass 25 years? One thing for sure spending tax payers money…if you have read earlier this year, the government has given them few billion this year for R&D funds and this is what they come out with “RE-BADGING”? if you’re not educated enough please look up definition for R&D and know that the fact that RE-BADGING is not in the R&D category.
u la no head..no inovation konon..R&D sure include rebadge ma..u totally not skolah tinggi..without R&D how u gona think re-design new bumper?mold?joint?weld?qa/qc?setup supplier?test?generate & impliment sop?put standard?material?machining?all plan 1st then only do…u la not educated..
AND HOW DO YOU KNOW GOVERNMENT GV MONEY (R&D) FOR THIS CAR???maybe for EMAS ma…its like u really pay tax je…100k per year u paid ur tax?all country same like us ma…the problem is malaysian not contribute to their own brand..n p1 oso produce not a gud car..both were wrong..let them restart la..Nssn oso drop last time…renault buy kot..maybe renalut 60 nissan 40..
You can’t read? They’re coming out with the Persona R that’s Giugiaro designed in 2012. Plus Phoenix Project engine coming out, Lotus side coming out with new Esprit. Those ARE R&D! Don’t be an idiot. If every damn car they make have to be developed from scratch then you’ll cry out yelling because they spend money. Now do this also yelling. Hello, Waja replacement is in a niche segmentlah, why do we need to spend so much to develop a car that’s not the biggest seller in the market? That’s why Proton’s focusing on Exora, Saga & Persona. Better off making your moneymaker better. That’s why other car makers are also practicing rebadging, and no, none of them INNOVATED the cars THEY REBADGE!
Go read more before bashing. Got facts, then talk. If not, then don’t talk!
AGree with Tiadaid!!!Gud !
latest news from insider, they cancelled Persona R and Emas. They want to put all the effort into making sure this Lancer will achieve like Wira, and further to improve all existing model, future model are now in discussion with Mitsu. VW still reluctant to talk about passat, will keep on trying
wasting my time speaking to monkeys…
Dear Tiadaid,
Lotus is Lotus and Proton is Proton, both company keeps their books separately books. Are you talking about Proton or Lotus here? that you can’ even get it straight? i’m guessing the last statement you wrote is for you to understand.
25 YEARS alredi lor, how many more years to go before they take their mouth out of mother’s breast?
one more..
BMX – BMW…hahaha
..dont get angry aaah!
Hey, You’re good.
16 models thats all ? total there are more than 3500 cars sold in UK alone TODAY! This is call INSIGNIFICANT and NO IMPACT in statistical term.
GO AND READ MORE BOOKS little brother !
yup all these proton fanboys should just go to the japanese embassy to get their honourary citizenships! haha!
don’t worry proton > better you duplicate well established mitsui car rather than make tin milo car.
Malaysian people gey more safety
Waaaaaaa….then all the mitsubishi lancer owner will be regretting for buying the car….whats the point of buying a mitsubishi if theres another cheaper replication……….damn saddening……
Not really. I din regret buying my Lancer. It’s a superb car and it’s CBU. I don’t have any prob with the power window….
wahh you alreadi knew this car will have power window failure? do you have Paul the Octopus DNA inside you?
Lawak laaa, just to say about power windows.
yeah….us the average income worker will finally can get a lancer!
yeah… finally we can mod a lancer !
wont care about imitation, but this one should be top of sale for proton for coming future, congrate proton!!! :P
cannot wait for launching date..
sorila Proton u made it best car worst…
Sharviin Sasasey -Mit Lancer/Evo owner???hahahaha
Nice pix. Good job fami. What about pix of the exora “escort”???
Is it true…… nasib baik saya x beli lancer GT ari tu… mmg sebijik.. jatuh harga & exclucivity lancer lepas waja (Impian) ni kuar… lepas ni byk la evo x kat msia ni…
IMHO, it depends on the individual itself…if you are a-brand-kind-of-person..you would go for branded car…if you are a-performances-kind-of-person..you would go to look for a car performance..if you are a-reasonable-kind-of-person…you would think before you buy a car…would it be worth buying a skyhigh price car than buying an affordable price car that have approximately the same spec?
it is just an opinion….
wajalution..
oh my god … proton = mitsubishi ??? Msia = Japan????
what a shame!!
oh my god … perodua = toyota/daihatsu ??? Msia = Japan????
what a shame??
first said want quality car like japan.. now got japan car.. said shame…
dont give what u want.. u craved for it… give it to you.. u said shame….
make it your mind ladies.. hoping Zaff1984 is not ladies lah.. wakakakaka
budak mentah bagi comment.. like this lah…
I
am happy if mlysia = jpn..rite? don u
yup
The back and side profile looks good – similar
to the Mazda tail lights but the front looks very old fashioned.
Hope that it also comes with a Mitsu engine variant as
we are sick and tired of the same old 1.6 CraProS.
After 25 years, this is what Proton can do? I don’t mind if it is 25 years ago…
Have checked what other manufacturer is doing now? Re-badging dude…
Come on la bro! Dont get too emo..
Exora, Saga. Pesona, Gen 2, PROTON EMAS u tak nampak ke..
other hav 60-100 yrs still rebadging…shame more on them
same as lancer. copy bulat2. body kit shop can make money with this to convert to evo.huhu
R3 Waja lah..why Evo10?
Wah…… the new Wajalution looks quite good from the outside. Too bad cant see the insides well
lets share views now….
Cant wait !!
Exactly the same design as Mit. Lancer. Wow… Sure consider to buy one!
This is Mr Burns n y arent u working on the plant????u want Homer to do it???
what do you mean by Mr.Burns? That is his assistant laa.. Smithers.
pls come early…pls..pls…
Uh …. sounds like asking for prema….
Er… nevermind … ;-)
Great shots, but a pitiful sight. After 25 years in existance we still have to rely on a rebadge car as a mainstream model. Proton should look towards Hyundai Kia as an example, 4 th biggest car company in the world after 35 years of existance. Hope this will be fitted with the CFE turbo with the ZF CVT and paddle shifts.
1st encounter !! Not to worry about outlooks, I’m sure Proton has its engineering mods applied on the cars.
cheers
exsaga likes this.
Ok, hope the price will not sky high…
change bumper, change boot bonnet, change rims & add a spoiler…whualaa… Mitsubishi Lancer GT!!!
Why stop at GT …. go all the way to Evo ;-)
I think most prefered EVO X!!
Nice…hope price below RM80K
what a “superb job” by malaysian car maker! wooot3 o_O
totally hopes that they’re not only replacing the front and end bumper
if yes,i prefer to go to the original lancer
From 1st Saga then Wira then to self design models then back to this concept again, only Proton knows whats best for Malaysian
Is this the real next gen waja???
Where is the originality??
biar betul? very poor to buyer mitsubishi lancer :(
There is no signal indicator at side mirror??
not to worry bro, can get it from accessory shop
even EVO X front bumper huhuhu
nice….any price guess from you paul?
Cool~~~ might consider this car ^^
after buy can change the proton logo to become mitsubishi
the true wajalution
Thanks to that guy who snapped the pictures and to you too Paul. Great updates. That’s why ur blog been the top of lists. Anyway, wanna ask you Paul, is the current Mitsu Lancer weren’t selling well here in Malaysia? ‘Cause the badging is TOO similar too the current Lancer unlike the Wira in which the headlights were totally different in design and the whole body (though) have same chassis) has its own characters. Unlike this one.
2nd) Any news on the new mule model like this post?
http://paultan.org/2010/07/20/new-proton-prototype-mule-spotted-what-could-it-be/
I’m very interested. A very different design.
yeah…i’m not that eager for the waja replacement actually…more eager to know what’s the new model…been searching everywhere in the internet for any news or other spyshots about that new model…
ahaa..one more thing..i totally agree with you about the design is sooo verrrryy similar to the mitsu jerung…proton should done a lil bit tweaking i think…
Local product….but unavailable spare part…it very shame….proton already 25 years…but when order spare part….need to wait 2 or 3 weeks…when it arrived that not for my car although the part number correct… maybe discovery channel need to made special episode for proton = how they do it…
this is the true story for GEN2 CPS owner…
sorry because out of topic comment…..
kat kedai spare part luar banyak brg la bro.. jgn depend dgn SC saja…
your arse talk with no proof..
like a dog yelling at the wall..
OK FINE…I CAN SHOW YOU THE PROOF…ADA BRANI…PLEASE NO PROTON I CARE REPRESENTATIVE…THEY ARE USELESS…BUT IF I YOU SHOW THE PROOF…IT STILL USELESS BECAUSE YOU CAN’T DO ANYTHING…
YOU ARE NOT DATUK SYED ZAINAL…
I’ve to agree with you……..even for Wira parts also they can silap baca…..poor Proton Edar Service personel…..kerja but not 100% knowledgeable…..
go an work there lah….
I wonder what the current owners of Lancer would feel like when they see a cheaper Lancer with a Proton badge on it running around…hmmm…
I’m sure 99% of the owners of the new Proton Waja will rip off the Proton badge and stick the Mitsu logo on….we already see it happening anyway in the current Proton line up…
I DONT THINK CURRENT LANCER GT OWNERS WILL BE WORRIED….NO MATTER HW U MOD, U CAN NEVER MATCH MITSU’S TECH AND LOOKS…..AH BENG LANCER WILL ALWAYS BE AH BENG LANCER AND WE WILL CONTINUE LAUGHING AT THEM THE SAME AS WE LAUGH AT CURRENT WAJALUTION FOOLS….
john doe you talk what mitsu tech?
this car will have same engine and same gearbox
what tech are you talking? wiper? radio? ahahahha
Dude your ‘CAPS LOCK’ key seems to be stuck…
Totally Agree~
dude why laugh.. its their car… let them mod it..
let the modding scene blossom…
without it …its a boring drive along the way…
they hav gut to express them self… with what they hav…
so how bout u?
laughing keyboard hero?
Now a very cheap Lancer at Waja price, hehehe
OMG…poor lancer….shouldn’t be this way to end production…pity the real Mitsubishi Lancer.
First!..vrooom…
LOL…seriously bad news for all current mitsu lancer owner…ppl will think u r actually driving a WAJA..LOL
more ‘evo 10’ on our road soon too…LOL
haha, you are right
i’ve heard the selling price of this will be at 80,000+
cool
really ???….at that price segment…many other options to consider:- Kia Forte, Madza2
Nice
cant wait to see what engine they will put on it
they will use Mitsu for sure, then all those Campro investment also throw into tong sampah. It just show the company has no future. Just rebadge, please open the market, since there is no more national car.
nice….now waiting for the 2.0 specs and price….hopefully it retains all lancer goodies
No.1…!! Wajadua, Proton Evora (Evo + Exora)……Proton Satu (1Malaysia)^^
so whats the predicted price range?
Looking forward to more Mitsu based models coming our way.
Proton – please consider a JV wit Misubishi. Lots to gain and nothing to lose
except your bosses pride & ego but moving forward Proton will be on a firmer footing.
PM already mentioned abt maximising Proton’s spare capacity so this seems
like the best time. Proton can maintain their 1.6 engine but could source Mitsu’s
1.8 & 2.0 engines for its bigger models.
Good luck proton!!
is that exora turbo? can’t wait for it.
Make sure you have an angrier face on the exora turbo
hermm…
i guess they have gone back to its core roots when proton first started up…take a good car…rebadge and call it a PROTON…. 25 years + and going back to square one…way to goooo
//CaM.ShafT
at first, I was reluctant to reply, but you’re using camshaft as your nick, so I guess I should tell you so that you’d have more knowledge about automotive industry rather than just some engine parts. Otherwise, people might think you’re just some mechanic who own a workshop under a cherry tree.
Proton spent about RM1 billion to develop Waja, and to develop Waja replacement would be very costly affair to Proton, again. The market is so small which is why I think a lot of Waja being made into taxis and police patrol cars. That’s why they’re swapping model with Mitsubishi, Mitsu take Exora to sell in 3rd countries and Proton take Lancer to replace Waja. And if you think rebadging is unacceptable or you’re not satisfy with my answer, try ask Peugeot/Citroen (a company with more than 100 years of experience) why they rebadged Mitsubishi models too…
Similarly…was reluctant to challenge your opinion.Though there are only limited amount of truth in ur statement
1. I do agree that Peugeot/Citroen have a pack agreement to share cross platform and engineering to say. But please look at the models which are…as you were to put it “cut/paste” jobs. I can say for certain, you DO NOT see a copy and paste job for the mainstream models (e.g. 308, 208 and so on). They may “Share” the same platform but entirely everything else is different. they don’t even look the same at all..and since u so seem to know so much knowledge about the automotive world…can you say that the driving dynamics are the same?
So if you’re saying that there’s nothing wrong than copy and paste, tell me why bother having Proton “a so-called national car maker” when there are a NUMBER of local companies rebadging cars? example…Inokom for Hyundai, Naza for Peugeot and Kia and of course Perodua for Daihatsu?
And for your comment that Peugeot/Citroen rebadges Mitsubishi…for the simple reason is that they do not have the technology or know-how to begin with. But look at this car. It doesn’t run on nuclear power…nor does it run on EV…nor those it run on hydrogen…its a normal ordinary CAR.
2. A billion dollars to develop one car? Am curious and truly looking forward for you to provide me the facts and figures… Personally i worked with Proton KEY suppliers and the way Proton works with…i can say, 1 billion ringgit to develop one car is really…a long throw…Prolly the one billion ringgit well i could prolly say…yeah..by buying off design schematics and jus rebadge with the tiger’s head…
Proton has made some good cars. Gen 2, persona was all hits. Even the satria and the new saga. Looks good drives fair..I can’t stand the plastic inside but i like it in general. Won’t get one but i don’t have a grudge against it. But…this is dissappointing…with all its current good run….they decided to fall back and rebadge a lancer…
everyone has its right to his own opinion. for me…Proton and this car…is jus a thumbs down.
//CaM.ShafT
You don’t understand that this car is for a niche market. This is not mainstream model, because if you look at sales figures Waja’s sales are dwarfed by Saga & Persona. Makes sense for them to spend money on the big sellers. Case in point is the Persona R. They didn’t rebadge that model. It’s just one model. ONE! You bashers yell when they spend money to develop cars, now they spend less to rebadge car still you yell.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t!
LOL…ur comments…herm…how should i say… hilarious…the waja being a niche market? hermm please enlighten me on which market segment? presume that u can’t even answer your question.
Jus because sales figures are low = niche model…ermm…so are you saying that the Proton WAJA is as niche as a bugatti veyron or a Lamborghini Supperlegera LP640-2…or a Ferrari 599x? Sales figures does not translate into which market it goes into and im sure u’re WELL aware of that…a peugeot bicycle sales figure also low…are they for niche market?
And where on earth are you going with your Persona R argument? is jus a concept drawing…its not even a PROTOTYPE…geez…and as you said…its only ONE…for 25 years+ they can only come out with ONE model?
Spend more money to develop what cars? Cars which don’t have airbags, EBD, traction control, cheap plastics, thin wire windows, ECU that fries easily? or spend money to develop cars for export market with ALL these features as STANDARD PLUS EXTRA and the Malaysian people have to bear for the cost to subsidies these market??
In case you haven’t heard…PROTON proudly advertised itself back in 1995 as “Asia’s answer to BMW”….that was in 1995…..and where is PROTON in the Australian market now?
Lets look at stats given the so called claim:
YE2000 – 2742 cars
YE2001 – 1705 cars
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YE2008 (Dec) – 334
YE2009 (Jan) – 222
i Await your reply =)
//CaM.ShafT
yup, that’s what I read long time ago, it was RM1bil to develop waja, RM500mil for Gen2 and down to RM100mil for Persona. For me, the reason for this rebadge is simple… they only want a car for small market (Malaysia), and to develop a new one would be very pricey. how many Lancer could be sold here in a year? 10,000? 20,000? redesign would require new machines and new tools for production. does it make sense to invest another RM50-100mil just for this niche market?
Peugeot/Citroen would definitely do much more to differentiate their products because their market is much bigger (worldwide) and the sales would justify their investments.
dear MoFaz…
I comfirm that PROTON cars are crap…..try owning one…then you’ll know what i mean….
@cam.shaft
First, you talk about Gen 2, Persona, Satria Neo, Saga and you say they’re all good cars and then when someone brings up the Persona R, you say that Proton has only developed ONE car in 25 years? Lol. Your math sux bro.
Proton actually has 3 new cars coming out in the years to come, Persona R, Proton Emas and the joint-development of a car with Mitsubishi.
So that’s 7 new cars in 25 years (actually 12 years because they were rebarding Mitsu before then). Not bad. :)
CaM.ShafT, you works Proton KEY suppliers …?? I bet it’s the power window suppliers..no wonder got so much problem…
no lah, he make key fro proton cars only. he dunno anything else.
its really a lancer..hehe..ha..malaysian..go buys a evo x bodykits..lala~
nice!
This is infact the 9th gen of the mitsubishi lancer. But i not so optimistic with its 1.8cc engine unless direct injection is used. Sat in a 2.0cc with CVT and i can sense the car is alittle underpowered.
Yes.My fren’s 2.0 is underpowerd.it looks heavy n feels heavy.quite a guzzler
1.8 later tuned by R3 … best ! but sacrifice FC.
Yup..proven on dyno graph, the 2.0 is underpowered, thanks to the CVT gearbox..
There’s quite a lot of complain about CVT here in Paul Tan’s. ;-)
Is it really true that its power delivery really poor or just perceived as (because it smoothens out power delivery)?
Anybofy can point out to data available on the net to verify/confirm/deny this?
Just curious. :D
Ow crap. *anybody*, not anybofy…. :(
to answer your question, watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg_3FSY5gyo
Lancer GT 2.0 accelerating 0-100kmh in about 8 seconds.
current perdana with 2.0 and 4 speed auto does that in 13 seconds.
ppl that say the lancer with cvt is underpower think they are too smart . think they can feel everything…how dumb!!!
king..have you looks at the dynograph on aftermarket tuners? Yup the horsepower at the flywheel is tremendously good, but how the power transferred on the road? Have you ever think why GTR, Golf GTi are using dual clutch and DSG gearbox? Coz it’s transfer the power via CLUTCH, not by belt. The feeling is just a feeling, but what’s the reality? You’re also comparing CVT to Auto, have you ever comparing it to Perdana with manual tranny?
King,
thanks for the link.
Not bad…. not bad at all. Even for somebody who drive like an uncle like me :D
switch back to 15″ wheels and the power will be just fine. 18″ is just too heavy unsprung weight that makes the car’s overall dynamic affected. except in looks department.
Haha! i knew it!
Yes… finally.
i hope it will come with paddle shift…then lets become evo wannabe…hahaha
What is the point? Can’t you just assemble and sell Lancer instead of changing a bit here and there and sell as Waja? I bet the changed parts are lesser quality yet over-price too…
hehehe…..pasni ramai beli..pastu tukar lambang mitsubishi balik….mcm zaman wira dulu2….
Boo
Saya sudah order dua tahun lepas. Sampai sekarang tak sampai lagi. Dia orang suruh naik BLM saga dulu. Lepas dua tahun dia boleh jadi Lancer.
Finally..
I wonder will it be the exact size with the current Lancer GT on the road now.
i heard the engine is 4B11…it means Proton will use the Mitsubishi 2.0 engine?
was spotted in KLIA and now the blog has been removed which posted the pictures. looks like it’s a 2.0 Waja!, the door VIN plate states engine is 4b11 and CVT transmission also
Engine and transmission should be the same… not sure about the paddle shift… i personally think paddle shift will be available in higher spec mitsubishi model not in Proton to differentiate the market for both brand…
OMG this is so exciting! The end is nigh, all you Lancer owners!
Can anyone estimate the price and when it will launch. Many thanks!
I really think 80k++ for basic 1.8l model to 98k++ for 2.0l model. This is to avoid Proton’s product competing each others in term of price just like what Myvi did to Viva and Alza did to myvi because little price differential between products.