Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak has revealed that Proton Holdings Bhd will work with Chinese carmaker Geely Automobile Holdings to expand the former’s market in China, reports Bernama.
He said the national carmaker and Geely are now in the discussion stage after signing an agreement of interest on April 22, witnessed by former PM and now Proton chairman Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad.
“The areas of the cooperation explored include vehicle design, sourcing, manufacturing, marketing, import and distribution for ASEAN and the China market,” Najib told Malaysian reporters in Beijing.
Geely KC Concept from the 2013 Shanghai Motor Show
He added that if Proton and Geely were to seal the agreement, the Malaysian carmaker would produce cars based on the design of Geely’s models.
Najib said that in the two-way meeting between himself and Chinese Premier Li Keqiang earlier this afternoon, he had asked for cooperation and support from the Chinese government on the cooperation between Proton and Geely.
Geely develops, manufactures and sells cars under the Geely, Gleagle, Englon and Emgrand brands in China. It bought Volvo from Ford in 2010. As of April 4, 2013, the company’s total market capitalisation was US$3.9 billion (RM12.5 billion).
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take care your mouth
Aiya, end up Proton still rebadging other people car?
So what is different with Perodua?
However, rebadged Volvo will be welcomed by local market. Volvo and Geely models are generally better looking that the Preve/Suprima S.
For build quality and resale value, Toyota/Perodua still the best.
First and foremost why is the PM announcing for Proton? Isn’t it in private hands? Or was is a crony sandiwara to bluff to the people it is in private hands. Where is the CEO of Proton? Don’t he have any balls to make this announcement?
Where is Syed Mokhtar? Ultimately he owns Proton. Why isn’t he announcing? Who is the boss now Najib or Syed Mokhtar. It looks like Syed Mokhtar is Najib’s real boss.
Please lah Proton CEO and Syed Mokhtar. Please have some balls.
And what happened to all the pondans that always posts in all the comments section of every Proton section that Proton is in private hands and they get no help by the government. Now, the pondans all keep quiet. Always the pondans come in to defend Proton saying that Proton too pay taxes, Proton are in private hands and they get no government help.
So, why is the Government of Malaysia announcing for Proton?
Bullshit to the public that Proton is in private hands but every year Proton sucks tax payers money like crazy.
Najib should instead tell the people why he has not given the 30% price reduction he promised the Rakyat of Malaysia before the election. Najib promised every voter that if people voted BN in, he promised with all his heart that he will match PKR’s offer to reduce car prices by 30%. He said we could trust BN as BN always kept to their word and has never cheated the public. This Najib cannot do but he has time to announce for Proton like a lapdog. Very evident Syed Mokhtar is the big boss of Proton.
You know why Proton is losing money?
It is because their workers are all lazy, like to sleep, 7 times a day minum teh and makan kuih lapis in the kantin and all they think about is kahwin empat.
How to do QC when the QC officer makan kuih lapis and minum teh in the kantin 7 times a day?
The workers don’t want to work hard because they know even their children can get free scholarship just goyang kaki with no merit.
This behaviour will sure irritate the Geely workers and we will see this partnership break up not very long.
Preve.suprima S got 5 star Australasian NCAP (not Asean). P2 has achieved such standard?
agree..always watch out your mouth and hand during writing and talking…
This venture sure to fail. Very simple. No need logic. The reasoning is this. One country, people are so hard working and the other country, people achieve with no merit and always wanting a tongkat and handouts. Complete opposites.
After a while the Chinese in China will get fed up with the lazy attitude of their Malaysian partners who strongly believe in the Tongkat and a free ride in life and free shares and percentage of the joint venture company.
This clearly can be seen by the work attitude of both countries.
China workers:
“We must work hard. We must focus and achieve success with every sweat. All task must be accomplied on time and we strive to have only 30 minutes lunch break. We must make our country proud and the only remuneration we should get must be accompanied with customer satisfaction and global achievement of our company’s products. We must always strive and work hard”
Malaysia Proton Workers:
“Rilaks lah bang. Buat apa nak keje kuat. Jom mari lepak. Nanti boleh buat keje ni. Boss tak ada karang, jom lepak, boleh tido. Eh, tengok awek cun tu, bezz lah kalau dapat kongkek dalam bilik stor Proton. Jom jom meh pegi minum teh dan kuih lapis”
Why proton dun get much benefits from youngman. Is it because they are lazy?
Now I realized that a lot of malaysian are no educated, shame
Uneducated comment
How China’s cheating culture?
Once heard on BFM,
even Malaysian Chinese afraid of the China’s cheating and plagiarism and copycat culture.
Don’t even trust to set up factory in China.
They are too profit-minded, nothing else matter.
They even harvest featus and human organ.
They really hardworking, but really without sense of human
scdr,
fyi.. youngman did sell a lot of proton gen2 and persona in china (rebadge of course) and the figures are somewhere around 180,000. small figures compare to that huge china market but big numbers for proton.
OMG…Shame on u VS – poor mouth. lol.
What car are you using?
VS only rides kapchai, he never has any car becoz he cannot afford it, tat’s why butthurt
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Then what is the relation between geeky, potong and youngman?
Manufacture only important components here, and let China do the rest. Lower labor = cheaper price. Even Apple has their products assembled in China. It doesn’t matter where, as long as the quality control is stringent, the end product should be good.
Silap-silap krovendor (crony + vendor) yang sekarang pun outsource ke China.
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Proton = Kereta Komunis??
Nooooo!!! Send me to hospital now, my stomach cannot stop laughing!!!
i continue.. hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha
PROTON???? PEMALAS SEMUA NI…….
Take that haters, Proton going to collaboration with Geely for Volvo cars.
Drive-E engine, plss potong..
Haha.. Potong die hard fans always can find a reason to praise potong.. :)
However, it already mentioned potong may going to produce the cars on geely’s models but not Volvo models..
well a good turnover.
China nowadays cannot be consider of producing low quality product
Original Apple Iphone also made in China.
For me its a good decision,
cheaper production car,parts.
quality ? china made Volvo in good quality
Collaboration with china gonna help
I don’t see how it will work in terms of manufacturing, but knowledge sharing may be possible.
Both brands want to expand their markets and improve their brand image, but them leveraging on each other? I can’t wrap my head around it.
But most importantly, Proton bashers will read this as Proton = China car after this.
China cars are better quality after all, look at GreatWall which is the top seller for pick up truck in Australia.
Let Geely buy over Proton, maybe Malaysian will have more faith on Proton?
let geely buy over proton, then close it down and that it. end of proton, sounds like a plan.
Mungkin awak tak baca Proton dah jual melebihi 200000 Gen2 & Persona di China menerusi Youngman Auto China. Jika kita baik sangka tentu kita beri fair comment kan?
Habislah Proton… Quality already sub par & now plans to partner an automotive company from China without proven quality control..
last time with Mitsubishi,current with Honda,and now Geely?! I wonder what happen to the Proton R&D department?!
For good design and development, the treatment for R&D staff is special.
The kuih lapis for R&D department tea time is specially prepared by Micilin chef which cost RM180 per piece. The teh tarik use tea leaf from Himalaya tea plant cost RM 175 per cup.
Top quality nutrition for top quality design. Fair right?
The kuih is halal or not?
By the way Proton is gonna end up as ‘Jack of All Trade’
Who’s care?
No matter the cars sell well or not, the employees still will get the bonus.. That’s the “hak istimewa” for the potong employees. Others cannot challenge and even talk about it, or else u go out from this country.. lol
Lots of racists and bigoted statements expressed here. I’m so sad. The future is not looking very good for Malaysia.
Every places have those kind of hak istimewa. If not proton can go to sell cars in china without those xollaboration.
Please grow up kid.
Potong where got R&D, they can’t even design a simple reverse sensor.
THey dun make cars? Then who makes preve, exora, etc. Geely issit.
lol
preve was designed by italdesign.
saga blm by LG. exora also outsourced to a korean company. same goes to persona rear end.
The R&D department of Proton is not bad after all. Due to their extensive research on windows electrical motors, they have perfected the motor design and thus able to give lifetime warranty for the power windows.
Oh gosh, the rain of hate is going to begin on this page soon. Wasn’t expecting this tie up but if they produce safe affordable cars for the masses then it should be good.
I guess we have to now look to the chinese for transfer of technology. Have we moved in reverse? Because if my memory serves me right they only started really making cars that were usable about 10 years ago.
2030 we will probably working with Timor Leste for transfer of technology. Not hating it but sad and happy to know this but overall in WTF mode.
Proton v40?
THose spare parts are going to be very expensive. Just ask any Volvo owners, an original battery for Volvo costing RM 800.
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10.5 km/L for my 1.3 saga, FC car par with my sister accord 2.0. How can we love proton?
LOL If you want to cheat please be logical, where got 10.5km.l for 2.0l in city. That number only can get if on highway.
In city of course Vios too only get 11km.l.
In city:
New Vios is 15.5km/L.
Old Vios = 15km/L
Avanza and Alza 1.5 can do 12km/L.
Hmmm you sure? My Vios average is around 11-12 km/l city driving. At first i thought its just me but i confirmed it with several other friends with Vios and also Paultan Driven episode 1 also confirmed it.
So i highly doubt you can get 15km/l unless its pure highway driving. A check in Fuelly.com also confirms the average consumption is around 11-12km/l. So not sure what are you smoking on and getting 15km/l in purely city driving in start stop traffic conditoins.
I would have taught the Vios/City would be able to give better mileage than that based on the response my vios/City friends give about fc. Thanks for the real world info man. It’s around the manual Campros for real world. They average between 11/12 KM for mixed driving.
The new City gets 13-14 km/l in pure city driving and 18 km/l highway.
Looks like the ancient engine of the Vios and transmission is showing itself to be very inefficient.
UMW better buck up and bring in new engines for the next Vios model.
He’s absolutely no idea about 2.0 and above for city fuel consumption. They meant for fat salary ppl.
I assume you had not heard of BFM radio station, check out the breakfast grill podcast of CEO of proton edar Hisham bin Othman. If you are too lazy to find it here is the link http://www.bfm.my/proton-edar-hisham-othman.html . Start listening after 14:40 Their Margins is very thin and sales is very thin, therefore it isn’t a real sustainable way to push the car forward in terms on r&d. If you are aware about business rationalisation, RM401m isn’t even halfway there, TVC itself would already burned RM120m, there’s still traditional media, digital media & roadshows.
IMO only option for them is collaboration with other car makers in hopes that they will transfer older technology to them. Or they can increase their profit margin to a more sustainable way to promote r&d and with that stronger technological expand and strengthen their offshore markets.
But when Preve was introduced, it’s not well accepted (chk wikipedia under ‘reception’) 41k global sales which equates to very poor profit margins (toyota in 2013 sold 150k in Malaysia alone), which means it will take a while to break-even their investment capital. So technically they are stuck with nowhere else to go; price wise-subpar product, high ceiling with low margin, cant afford r&d or technology purchase. Only option out for Proton now is collaboration.
Seriously, if you read up with their earning reports, with or without cronyism, I’m actually surprised they actually lasted till now.
And u really believe what it says???
learn more about proton “past history” 30 years industry and still losing money ever year???
Look outside window u see ever parking and there is proton car… We do support them for 30 years but “the management” let us down…
@Fast5
Few things;
1) No, I do not believe what it says. And I agree that the management did let us down.
2) I specifically said ‘with or without cronyism’, If you need an explanation to what that means. Take the earning reports, and assuming their ‘Crony’ mark up their products by 100%, the cash flow is still much lower than other carmakers for a sustainable R&D program.
3) Proton had highly credible competitors way before its inception, while the market is relatively small, they only outsold their competitor because they cater for the budget bracket, which had and will always be bigger than the executive & premium market. Problem is, margin is far smaller and Malaysia doesn’t have the necessary volume to give Proton & Perodua an opportunity for adequate cash flow for R&D.
4) I’m saying that given all the above and it still survived is a remarkable feat.
5) In my opinion, they do not have the luxury of an option to do R&D. And their only option to sustain is for collaborations.
6) Basically they are trying to wipe their ass without the aid from khazanah nasional with the very least of surviving past the current global economic state.
@possible
Now I understand your ideal… thx for reply…
Patriotik boleh masuk bakul sampah bai. Walaupun aku sokong penubuhan Proton, tapi aku takkan sokong Proton semata-mata patriotik. Biar Proton hidup sebab engineering dan kemampuan, bukan patriotik mebuta tuli.
Blame lagikah rakyat tak cinta negara?
Tujuan utama potong ialah rakyat boleh beli kereta dengan harga yang rendah.
Sekarang apa rakyat dapat?
Lack of vision and serious lack of determination….. Just need to rely on non misan for white labeling?
Geely acquired Volvo recently and developing cross-platform cars.
This move, may have good coming in terms of economic of scale of parts sharing, since the chinese automakers also employs parts from world reknown brands such as Bosch and many other in auto industry if not more, as much as other automakers in europe. even BMW and Merc gearboxes are made in china, so does your iPhones and Sony Xperias.
So, China is not a country we should be seeing with one eye.
Just Proton has to be sure not to be conned again by likeness of those businessman took advantage of them before (Youngman).
Well… Geely Panda is cute… why not bring it here.
What the hell. Mahathir is really the worst thing that could happen to Proton. They were already on the right track, producing decent cars that just need a bit of tweaking, like better QC. And now downgrade to rebadging again?! Some more Chinese cars? (And I highly doubt that Volvo models are meant).
Politics in Malaysia is hilarious. On one hand they told the Chinese born in Malaysia to get out of the country, on another hand they are courting mainland Chinese. Amusing.
it is because the local chinese ‘assembled in Malaysia’ is worst lor. Just like proton. thats why they collaborate with original chinese. not chinese ‘made in malaysia’. lol
Want to ask about it? I think it’s not a rocket science to know why it happens.
So how about you? You are even worse…rag head kutu robbery
Ford and Volvo will drop price and value. Looking forward for Proton Focus
“The areas of the cooperation explored include vehicle design, sourcing, manufacturing, marketing, import and distribution for ASEAN and the China market,”
Proton worshippers (the optimist)will say that we will get Volvo based protons
Proton bashers (the pessimist) will say we will get china quality proton
I (the realist) say we will get almost nothing out of it.
From my point of perspective , the Chinese market(as surveyed conducted) dosent want Chinese quality car. And as the Chinese citizen gets more and more affluent, they crave for stuff more materialistic, German brands are the most sought after, moving as far as they can from the stereotypically made-in-china quality. In fact it is believed that china has one of the most materialistic mind set in the world. So why oh why would they want to buy a car design, engineered by a small, almost obscure ASEAN country that is made-in-china? With quality almost unnoticebly better given the rise of some of their car quality. And if they want to be patriotic(or can’t afford a German car) they will buy a Chinese car…..or the dominating GM and Volkswagen.
And likewise, if we were to get a geely engineered and design vehicle (And bear in mind this is no Volvo), will the Malaysian public buy it? A car engineered and develope by the mainlanders and built in Malaysia? I supposed it could as they will just appeal to the government to discontinue the EEV progrme(due next year) and remap the NAP to Mahathir style. Cheaper pricing of the already dirt cheap Chinese car is hard to ignore. And the Japanese and Koreans cars have us by our throat, newly arrived Ford, PSA and VW are sagging candy in front of is as well. The stigma of Chinese cars are still strong.
But none of that matters, as we are talking about proton, like all of its JV-programmed of recent times, it hardly gains momentum before it all falls out. The DE-based electric Persona…….the recent Mitsubishi JV …the Italdesign EMAS……..and more recently Honda which now seems awfully quiet ever since Mr ex-chairman came crashing the party with the announcement that made soichiro roll in his grave.
The problem is that I don’t see results from proton. They are abit like the recent Hollywood blockbuster….giving us epic trailer before coming out of the cinema feeling ‘meh’ it not up to expectation.
geely has economies of scale but what they do not have is decent design. like it or not, proton can do way better than what geely is designing for their cars now. and i think this is what proton could contribute to them. they on the other hand can contribute tech transfer… of volvo. who knows? it could happen. plus with their huge production, costs could potentially come down.
Wau, good twist ya..
Now is potong giving a helping hand to geely to produce more “good design” cars ya… lol
And geely need good design from potong instead of Volvo design team???
@ Guilt79
WTH r u talking abt? Geely bought Volvo from Ford thus Ford is not in the picture…Proton Focus?! Seriously, school holiday is it?
except drivetrain, geely own DSI which supply ford, chrysler, geely & ssangyong. Possibly proton & lotus in the future?
Haha…
Proton is someone’s pride and it is not for sales. Else it had been merged with VW long long long long time ago.
For some to live rich, every Malaysian has to die poor.
Proton won’t die before Malaysian economy die.
DSI is hardly the leader in engineering is it? Went bankrupt because their largest customer went bankrupt. And that largest customer was..err..Ssangyong.
Even a “jaguh kampung” like Proton can produce better cars than Geely can, just take a look at their website and compare the Exora, Suprima and Saga to their cars. If anything Geely should learn from Proton engineers on how to make better cars.
Volvo? That V40 is using a 10-year old Ford C1 platform that nobody else uses. Heck Mazda stopped using it 2 generations ago.
What the hell is Proton (more importantly DRB) doing? GSC was delayed for 2 years (definitely huge increase in development budget to change platform from Mitsu to Proton’s own). Family-Y engine development abandoned. Lotus went from 2015 Porsche challenger to pure financial leach.
DSZ must be laughing somewhere, leaving a sinking ship early. All his work unravelling and crumbling slowly. I do have respect for our former PM for what he has done, but common sense dictates that no company would appoint an 88-year-old to be it’s leader and hope to be successful in such a competitive industry.
Inspira PROTON also we called it as collaboration and work together right? LoL!
Two of the least attractive brands collaborate to make a car. I can’t wait to see what abomination they will come up with.
If they play it right, as in Proton does the exterior design, so far it seems to be their only proven forte. Volvo, Lotus & DSI does the chassis, and Geely does the manufacturing, sth good may possibly come out of this collaboration.
Dont syok sendiri la. Design macam sial self praising somemore.
Omg, last time kawin Youngman, now scandal with Geli-man
China or not, this could give Proton access to Volvo’s tech.
Give nasa tech to proton also they dunno what to do ler.
They will get 40 engineers to “sleep” with it
You h’got the point!!!
Potong already have the great knowledge on chassis and handling (from lotus), then the power train (previously from Mitsubishi and lately bought a lot petronas f1 engines and gearbox)..
But don’t know how to apply make them just sit inside the deep shxt!
Proton learns handling from lotus. If not proton cars are sampan like japs lor. Proton bashers only know to bash, see pictures dun know what they see.
lololololllllll
They did not learnt. It was lotus that apply it for them. We dont expect a company that cant even get power win & electrical circuit right to work things like handling.
The testers now are mostly local engineers, not mat salleh from Lotus. They learn from them.
Ya .. spin… just like your master. Testers? Local?
And why on earth Geli-man would want to let Boleh-man get his Volvo bini tech for free?? They r not stupid too
Only memorandum of interest… Not even intent. Like this also wanna make noise.. Running out of stories and time proton…. U are a generation of pain and failure. Just close down, better gor everybody.
Why pm is announcing? Proton still a glc meh?
Proton is joining the geely family.. LOL.. maybe they want to share the Lotus technology..?
ok guys, i’ve read thru the colaboration between Volvo and geely… its just like Proton and Lotus(yah i know proton bought lotus so don’t go bitching about that i’m wrong or what)… geely is just getting some of the technology from volvo..that’s pretty much it, soo technology volvo, quality macam mana? don’t jump into conclusions that we are rebadging volvo cars! Eh brother, Geely pun tarak rebadge kereta Volvo lagi apa lu mau bising. So yeah you Proton fans out there just wait and see don’t assume.. As for haters keep hating..hope Proton gets it in their numb skulls to start building better cars. Peace!
volvo had given her full design for XC90 to geely. so most probably collaboration between geely and volvo very strong compared to proton and lotus, just knowledge sharing. in fact volvo also had agreed that they will share their knowledge with geely and again it similar with collaboration made between ssangyong and mercs. imagine proton can develop tech based on lotus, proton and volvo, perhaps it will give more values to proton’s customers. or i just day-dreaming.
@torque
Sorry. Misread. When wanted to edit was too late. :P
I am speechless. It is so malu to hear that proton is working with geely moving forward. Aren’t they ashamed of this? I was once proud that proton wss working with mitsu 2 decades ago. But hearing them stepping backwords is really bad. Sungguh malu.
What to be proud of? Mitsu is the worst auto brand in japan.
Any other Japs brands also sucky. Almost every year got massive recalls.
No. Jap brand not sucky. Only Proton.
Proton n Geely, probably going no where. Just some discussion.
Proton need Geely more than vice versa. but Neither China nor Malaysian ppl wan China or Malaysia car, so what to do? Dono.
So some discussion.
Fking stupid, got VW to work with, don’t want. Last year just announce tie up with Honda, then no further news d. What sort of management is this, utterly pathetic at the expense of Rakyat’s money
This is called Merry Go Round The Bush
Its one of the very few news where u feel going outside under the moon and scream to the lord ‘wwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhyyyyyyy ‘ all nite long….
>>we know 1 thing for sure that proton’s design is waaaaayyy better than geely’s..
1 thing for sure proton days are numbered.
So easy to die meh? When on ‘Life Support’ mode, Proton can live longer than you all.
Is that the best Proton can do?…Againn???…Pooorahh
What happened to the Proton & Hawtai agreement ? Oh well. I don’t particularly like Geely, but their Emgrand division is worthy of praise.
It’s still too soon to judge this unexpected move. I just hope the gains are mutual for both Proton and Geely.
Proton, please just rebadge Japanese car. It is a proven and viable concept. You used to do it and it was profitable. Perodua is doing it, and it’s very successful. Proton problem started when it started to develop it own car.
Please. Just rebadge.
Rebadge? Then how to “mencipta nama”?
The words like “persada dunia” , “anak tempatan” & “mencungkil bakat” are very important to them you know?
Also rebadge cannot go europe for 1 months to test car.
Cungkil bakat konon. Cungkil gigi adalah.
As if you don’t cungkil gigi unless you use polident.
Bwahahahahahahahah
Rebadging can only compete in Malaysia. Perodua isn’t going anywhere well with their Myvi’s. Yea they sell a bit here and there but can’t sustain just by becoming jaguh kampung and selling a few units overseas
They know they have reached the market saturation and they need to go global. otherwise they will just bleed to death in the end.
MAS is on the verge of Bankruptcy and here we have
another one in the making.
Hopefully KKM does not do any DNA test on future
Proton models cause obviously “it” will be found…
Just like Proton, MAS will not be allowed to go bankrupt. They will secretly pump in lots and lots of sweet juice to both companies.
hahahaha,.. geeeliiii,… geeliiiiii, haha hihi huu huuu ,.. ambik kooo ,,lagi tak daa classsss, cikgu pon malu nak pakai proton…
Takde class yea, name me under 100k Japan car that can do more than 205Nm torque?
power saja lebih,.. feel bo liau…proton tetap proton,.. pakai 5 tahun mcm kereta lusuh…
why cant proton work with Honda, At least perodua is Toyota, Proton is Honda lah, rebadge and stop the sales of honda.
Mitsubishi also jadi lah,
else Subaru impreza to replace inspira, sell at 90K why not?
Why must go China and kacau the zen there.
Because Honda don’t want to supply platforms and engines?
Show me one company in the world that gets engines from Honda (cars or motorcycles)?
To Bodek Chinamen. Now Ah Tee ‘kepala Pening’ lah.
Those upper management mostly appointed, that’s what they discuss in meeting. (U get what I mean) beside those r speechless cause whatever u suggest is rejected due to not benefit to appointed pocket. So..is been going on year by year n til now stil continuing. Not a qualifier but have decision decided. .can u imagine that!
Anyway. .all the best PROTON
The first Proton with them will be called the Proton Giggle….
Oh no!!
Oh no!!
In other word, also helping Proton to expand in China under Geely Brand,What I mean is the market in China are far bigger compare to Malaysia. As a company, they could not survive in Malaysia Market.
Frankly, I don’t think this tie-up will be a wise move. Just hope that Proton won’t get conned in the long term. I believe even if Geely will sell Proton models in the future, they will definitely rebadge them instead of using the Proton badge. If like this, Proton can never carve a name out for itself in China. Eventually, it will only benefit Geely with more models to offer to the Chinese market without their need to incur designing and prototyping costs.
Which is true, conman or productive?
All the big bosses in proton actually dunno how to do business.. never learn from other successful car companies.. sort of like SYOK SENDIRI only.. everyday make the rakyat so kecewa n agry.. come out with new model also takes so long.. gsc also from last year testing testing n testing.. talk BIG but action so SLOW.. rakyat fed up already..
tech transfer?
nope….
last 6 mnth,an matrade officer did bring this matter up when we are having a conversation.only now it come true but only an interest.
they are shifting to china to take advantage of the super low labour and manufacturing cost.
All my butt & bart fan go quiet…
Thumbs up guys.. well said.. no need comment dy. .
Enjoy reading. ..
Hahaha.. laughing too. .
Of course you laugh a lot because a loser laughs a lot until left far behind like a proud rabbit.
Loser.
Finally there u are.. I hope you enjoy read all comments above.. I no need to add..
You are the looser. . How much u earn anyway? Mind to share?..
Haha.. low life.. Puiih.
You are the proud man here, claimed got 2 cars, 2 houses etc. Low life? Even if I’m much richer than you and most people here, why should I be proud and showing off like you? Only loser claims he wins but in reality he loses.
P1=making lost, no bonuses, no sales, discontinued model, no support service, no resale value = looser.. who the looser. Oh must be u.. driving or work in proton..
I don’t talk kork.. or baseless claim. . Few of my friends here know me personally. . Unfortunately. . You are not.
Definitely. . You’re the poor guy.. work harder la.. or else you wouldn’t buy a proton too. .
P1 day are numbered. . Just wait..
Let me correct you abit.. I ve three cars.. two myvis & vios… .two of them loan & problem free..
Going for fourth. No rush.. Following news here.. Nissan Note is coming.
Not bragging. . But you ve no idea what kind of people driving a Myvi or old Nissan Sunny.. or a Kancil.. put that on your mind & compare with your pathetic life. . Suit become my butt followers. .
now his bragging about his imaginary friends.. i think we’ve had enough already..
hey paul tan… do something..
What now? Whining? Can’t take it? Want to cry like a girl dy? Crying looser..
Cowards.. never ve proper username. . Here is motorhead. . Always the samw.
wahh.. more arrogant than before..
this motordead had some smoke i think..
why only enjoy reading those comments..?? u dont have any idea to bash proton anymore..but depending on others like sam loo and the gang or u are juz a scared looser..
yang banyaknya.. orang yang berko-kok, buatnya sikit, canangnya lebih..
Ko tatang P1 tu bodo.. dah terang lagi bersuluh x feasible. . Ko tggu jelah…
Sikit lg kena jual. (Dah kena jual kat Drb pon)..
Suka ati aku la nak komen ape.. smartfon aku ni bukan datuk ko yg punya..
*motorhead
hey.. motorbart
atleast pay attention to his lies..
u see.. when u get it wrong ..he’ll be bragging about those lies again..,are we’ve had enough..?
You talking to yourself?
Hey motorbutt,
Let him syiok sendili with his imaginary friends, cars and properties.
I am not surprise if after this he said he has 9 or 10 cars and 10 houses because he can imagine anything he wants..but in reality he is a loser.
no whining..i still can take ur lies but not sure about others…
nvm la.. bring in everything u got..
Yg teramat penting adalah tindakan.. bukan penipuan yg hanya sekadar berlegar di fikiran..
Nak tipu mendanya. Baik aku kata ada lima keta 4 rumah.. bodoh la kau ni. Aku siap betulkan ko lg.
Fact is higher grade ppl not affected by motorhead only you. Simple.. because they ve more.. & normally ppl earn more than 6K won’t drive a proton.. none of my colleagues (same salary) drive a proton..
Definitely. . You are lower grade.. only lower grade envy higher grade..
Common sense. .
Whaever you say. If like that i also can say i drive a merc and have 7 houses. Pics please or you are dreaming kid. Oh now is holidays, no wonder naughty kids are around.
While Lotus can use Toyota Engine.
Why not Proton-Honda collaboration’s giving us Honda Engine?
OK with the tie-up with Geely but reading between the lines stated Proton has lost its direction.
They went global in looking for partner:
1. Mitsubishi: Japan (Saga, Wira, Inspira)
2. Citroen: France (Tiara)
3. Renault: France (Savvy)
4. Proton own: (Waja, Exora, Preve, Suprima S)
4. Honda: Japan (Perdana)
5. Geely: China
Maybe my list not accurate as I lost counts as well.
Mahathir say collarate with Japanese car makers
Najib say collaborate with this Chinese car .
Cqn you two agree first before you two opening your mouths? Oh I forget. You two don’t agree on the things
Even with the help of local newspaper and localised car magazines ( suddenly test drive on OLD model Preve and Persona) oso cannot sell…latest June Auticar Asean said the Supima shape ” beatiful and internationally recognised or something similiar, me laughed until saliva spit out
Noone gives a damn whether you laugh or not
‘and sells cars under the Geely, Gleagle, Englon and Emgrand brands in China’
There are rumors that they also want to launch the ‘Flance’ and ‘Glermany’ brands soon to compete with european brands.
anyone frequent KTV for china PRCs
Interesting. .. Geely is founded back in 1986 , completely private owned by an individual with limited fund and has been very successful today.
Proton founded couple of years earlier was completely gov owned with lots of fund supported by mitsubishi,backed by 20+millions malaysian with ridiculous protection policies and yet….. we are getting help from geely.
Apa proton lagi mau… or in a way… apa dr. M lagi mau.
It is the right decision to work with the Chinese. Look east now means looking towards China, Taiwan and Korea. Japan is on the decline.
Unlike in the past, with the available knowledge and technology, the learning curve now is very steep. For once Proton made the right decision.
Proton with Japanese DNA – Proton Inspira.
RM78k 1.8L.
Reliable yet powerful C-Segment.
still fail to compete with Japanese B-Segmnet or even Hyundai Elantra Kia Cerato.
Seems there is no hope for Proton even Proton come with Honda Engine.
Correct you abit.. not Japanese DNA.. it is a Japanese. . It is a Lancer. Proton just change the front bumper & adjust the suspension abit. Inside all Mitsu’s. REBADGE. some rebadge butt or barthurt will go nuts.. P1 rebadge xpa.. P2 x boleh. Their level of mentality.
No coincident that when Xi Jinping became China’s top man, Geely president Li Shufu got a 20bil RMB loan from the govt.
Geely is just as protected in China as Proton is in Malaysia. This is nothing new. Despite the good sales of the Emgrand and Geely Panda, in terms of quality and value they are nowhere near the offerings from the various JV companies (VW, Ford et al).
Regardless if Proton is smart, it should be gunning for thw CMA platform which is co developed with Volvo. There’s no plan for right hand drive yet, and this should be a good area where Proton can contribute.
If Proton is serious, planning should be for the long term. If it expects easy money by rebadging or trying to sell Proton models via Geely dealerships in China, tak payah buang masa la.
Getting gov loan is no issue as long as showing results and pay back loan.
Proton instead is requesting for grant and that is free money from tax payer to help them to get syiok sendiri. That’s not right no matter how we see it.
While geely quality is doubtful buy they still deliver results. From biz point of view, they are increasingly able throw away their tongkat and start running.
Our beloved proton is asking for bigger, stronger and gold plated tongkat.
IMHO,
what proton should really do is just make us of whatever resources readily available to them.
for example, proton owns the rights to Waja. why not,
use waja body shell but use new front and rear end designs? designs that will also meet NCAP requirement. new doors. new cabin interior – dashbaord, door trims, seats etc
just like what proton did with the campro engine. revised it to be better.
make the waja unrecognisable this time around. make it a 5 star car. same goes to gen2, satria neo and savvy.
but please recycle all these models only once. and hope to succeed. once proton has all the money, they can look at making an all new car from scratch once again.
Hyundai used to do major major facelift before changing new platform.
Cheap move but u know what it works and at least that what brought them to where they are today.
No need to be utimate car but reliable car. Unfortunately, proton can’t even do the basic right.
What’s more talk big. 30 years and still day dreaming. Now, asking help from geely and basically a younger company that proton. Shameful man..
Watch out.Protong is getting pretty panicky.
What to do? Every other car manufacturer or distributor is ANNOUNCING NEW MODEL LAUNCHING in 2014.
This national desperado ,may perhaps REBADGE the Geely in Malaysia boleh Land instead.
MMC cannot be forever losing money,can they?
Myvi XT is not new model, they recycle old rims.
For some reason, najib is trying to avoid paying proton further under dr.m.
Instead proton panic, najib is panicking. .. if he pay proton, the nation will crucified him. If he don’t pay proton, dr. M will crush his balls (if he has any).
A lot of racism statement inside here….. grow up maggot… keyboard warrior is for nerd with small penis
Sorry.
Never another proton for me, my family and friends.
Proton don’t have a choice but to JV with Geely, which i think is the best way going forward…both want to sell their car to ASEAN regions. Proton have to accept it’s too small to compete and Geely needs Proton’s factory why not ?
Getting better design from china, our design team will tambah Bodykit smoke lamp etc they’re only good at this. Also if they let us copy a $100k salon will anyone of you guys buy a proton at $100k? Proton need to show they can produce quality cars to change people’s perception. I read proton perfected the power window motor. Wow. It took them almost 20yrs to perfect the motor. There is nothing wrong with the motor! Is the plastic subframe quality! Same with the cheap Aircond vents that deform. Is the plastics! Not the design. Visor with cheaply printed warning stickers. Who is the qc head. He should be sacked. All proton did was replace the said parts. Ini lah. Jv my foot. Change your team. Wait… Impossible to change. The culture can’t be changed. Then, good luck with the future!
eaww.. geli lah
Proton Cadbury. Got pork DNA inside.
Posting on Proton will have 200-400 comments. Impressive. Guys, whoever you are, you’ve done a great job.
On a different tone, ‘collaboration’ is easier say than done. I still want to stick to my theory – Proton changes hands too many and loses consistency in direction.
Instead of focusing on developing new models which costs hundred of millions, Proton should pause, think and rectify their mistakes/ weaknesses. What is wrong with having a few models but they are good and well accepted models? This is way cheaper than developing new models.
Everytime post on P1 issues there ll be hundreds of comments. . 99% of them unfortunately are curses..
Sad but true.. Metallica…
Hahaha. .
Proton can join venture with any car company BUT it boils down to working attitude and the cronies that are running the company, till they sought that out we will be talking about the same issue in the next coming years……
malaysian is finally bow to the chinese… indirectly agree chinese auto maker is progress ahead than p1.
Kalau tak puas hati.. balik cina la…
Sekarang proton nak kawin cina.
Kalau tak puas hati.. balik cina la…
Sekarang proton nak kawin cina. Munkin nak balik cina
Kalau tak puas hati.. balik cina la…
Sekarang proton nak kawin cina. Mungkin nak balik cina eh