Legal to carry a baby on a motorcycle in Malaysia? We ask the traffic police and here’s the reply

Legal to carry a baby on a motorcycle in Malaysia? We ask the traffic police and here’s the reply

We have all seen it, a motorcycle on Malaysian roads riding along, dad on the handlebars, mum sitting pillion. And then you realise mum is carrying a babe in arms, or there is a child sandwiched in between mum and dad.

Sometimes, there’s more, one child sitting behind mum, another perched in front of dad and hanging on to the handlebars. We wondered what Malaysian law and road rules have to say about this and asked our source in the police Traffic Enforcement and Investigation Department (JSPT).

“The law is clear here, Abang, a motorcycle is registered to only carry two passengers, and there should only be a maximum of two passengers,” says our source. “More so, it is dangerous for children to be riding in such a manner, whether they are wearing helmets or not. It is simply not safe,” he adds.

Noting that carrying infants and/or children together with two adults is something commonly seen on Malaysian roads, our JSPT source said there are times the force needs to be pragmatic. “Abang, yes, I know, we see this and it is against the law, but how strict should we be? If we do 100% enforcement the public will say police are heartless and without compassion, if we let it go then people will say we are not doing our jobs.”

In any case, says our source, safety is the primary consideration. “We cannot be everywhere all the time. When we see a situation like this we usually take the soft approach and offer advice first,” he says.

Our friend in the force hopes riders, and drivers, in Malaysia will practice more responsibility on the road when it comes to safety and courtesy. “We all need to use the road, Abang, and our job is to make sure it is safe for everyone to do so. If something is not safe, like taking your child on a motorcycle, try and look for alternatives first, don’t do it just because you feel there is no other option,” advises our source.

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Comments

  • Ben Yap on Oct 23, 2023 at 3:13 pm

    this is a norm for the B40. they can only afford a motorbike and they have to bring their kid along with their wife. the kid is innocent as he/she cannot choose their parents. it is the parents fault that they cannot afford to provide basic safety to their kids and yet they want to make babies.

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    • Squid on Oct 23, 2023 at 3:54 pm

      Can’t really blame them. The many years of ‘Education’ since Merdeka has brought us to this point.

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      • Alfonso Romeo bin Kelembai on Oct 23, 2023 at 6:36 pm

        Ini semua salah orang yang mulakan import kapcai dulu. Siapa ke nama tauke tu?

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        • Muddin on Oct 23, 2023 at 10:31 pm

          Lebai lenjan alfad mewah. Walaun perah kapcai buruk.. PAS 7tahun hutang tak bayar. takbirr

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      • Do first think later on Oct 23, 2023 at 8:48 pm

        Or the lack of education?

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        • Ctesiphon Eden destroyed on Oct 24, 2023 at 1:56 pm

          Supposed educating moral civic-minded but Emphasis too much on spiritual doctrine?

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    • Ahlokekor in Dreamland on Oct 23, 2023 at 4:57 pm

      Have u seen 4 on a bike to sekolah,no helmets?Just pathetic…they think their heads r made of iron..not realising just a fraction harder than water melon.

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      • Ayam titanium on Oct 23, 2023 at 5:36 pm

        Jangan lupa hari jumaat ye…kita semua kebal superman. Kete langgar kita kete yg remuk

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        • Stupid Ayam on Oct 23, 2023 at 8:28 pm

          Ya betul bang…kete rosak teruk tapi watermelon juga hancur.

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    • Eat, sleep, breed, repeat on Oct 23, 2023 at 5:32 pm

      That’s all we do

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    • Mopiko on Oct 23, 2023 at 5:41 pm

      Nyamuk gigit gatal sapu mopiko. Tempat lain gatal tolong sapu mopiko jugak ye

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    • Apa boleh buat? on Oct 23, 2023 at 5:54 pm

      Tak reti kira ovulation, tak boleh pakai raincoat

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    • Darwin theory on Oct 23, 2023 at 7:11 pm

      Evolution didn’t remove the basic primal instinct to breed carelessly

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    • Kimochi on Oct 23, 2023 at 7:45 pm

      Masa buat tu sodap tak pikir benda lain

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    • hazri on Oct 23, 2023 at 11:23 pm

      yes you right. i see b40 parent only have motorbike, and some of them have basic car like axia but have 5-7 kids. very easy to make the baby. they say anak2 ini rezeki. and i see m40-t20 have big suv and mpv car but have no kids. they wanna kids, spend all the money for fertility treatment, and some of them succeed to get 1-2 kids and some of them still have no kids even till 40-45 years old. they say nak dapatkan anak ini ujian. everyone chapter is not same, but at least ask yourself first, you want to be a responsible parent or a proud parent with many kids? as far as i met with someone with a lot of sibling, majority they are not happy with their parent. i dont wanna elaborate, you can understand why.

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    • Climate Not Changing on Nov 16, 2023 at 7:57 am

      Hi there loud minority. Sorry to hear you are so threatened. I’ma go prosper and make more babies now.

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  • Worthless anak, macam nyawa bukan nyawa

    Then when car drive too close them, these “hero dad” stare cock at u

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    • Hero dad on Oct 23, 2023 at 7:13 pm

      Apa tengok2?! Tak suka boleh balik (insert country name)!

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  • EV Car Mafia on Oct 23, 2023 at 3:25 pm

    A soft approach for a start is good. but recording the offense and follow-up is necessary. Each time a motorcyclist is spotted, the warning given to the offender should be recorded based on his license number/records. He/she should be sent for community services for the first 2 times and eventually fined. Depending on the recurrence of the same offence the person’s license/road tax/insurance should be stopped from renewal. This also puts enforcement officers in a good spot of not being heartless. Everyone has no smartphone and apps. these offenses captured by the enforcement officers should be pushed into the JPJ/Police apps aided with videos on the dangers and the details of the corresponding law. They should start with metro cities and then push their way to the smaller towns and villages.

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    • Beranak pinak sampai 20 ekoq sumbat 1 kete on Oct 23, 2023 at 5:44 pm

      Same reason gomen can’t enforce child seats

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  • Entah le on Oct 23, 2023 at 3:57 pm

    Kne wajibkan ade keta bru kwen ke cmne ni. Mcm wajib amek HIV test. But msukkan skali kne ade keta…

    Ye tahu, nnti ade la kata x mmpu dll. Abes tu, da jd makruh da kalo tahu x mampu kan?

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    • Siapa cakap xde kete xleh kawin on Oct 23, 2023 at 7:19 pm

      Zaman atok nenek kita dorang naik besikal naik bas ok je. Siap beranak 30 ekoq

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      • hazri on Oct 23, 2023 at 11:29 pm

        memang la ok dah zaman tu berapa kerat mampu pakai kereta? aku cukup takleh brain dengan org duk bekap guna zaman atok nenek moyang ni. jenis org nak compare epal dgn durian.

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        • loklak on Oct 24, 2023 at 2:13 pm

          zaman sekarang ada bas mrt lrt brt ktm ets bts blackpink, semua taknak naik

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      • Mindset dlu kala da x relevan. on Oct 24, 2023 at 10:06 am

        Ko cita zaman dahulu kala. Da x relevan le. Skrg ni lain. Islam ajar da kan benda jd MAKRUH kalo x mampu. X fhm lg ke.

        Nk menyusahkan diri buat ape? Pstu nk harap pelbagai bantuan mcm dia lah terpaling susah nk hidup.

        Susah itu PILIHAN. Da ko pilih, ko hadap je lah.

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    • hazri on Oct 23, 2023 at 11:14 pm

      orang ada kereta alphard pun, bila balik kampung elok je naik motor dengan anak bini jalan2 tak pakai helmet. kampung i mean, not in hulu sana but kampung in selangor kl.

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      • Sigh... on Oct 24, 2023 at 10:09 am

        Itu pilihan dia. Yg penting bkn miskin tegar yg hari2 nk hadap. So should be nak kahwin statement bank kne la sepadan.

        X kesian bwk anak kecik siap pakej kne ujan jln jauh?

        Org lain tgk kesian, tp mak bapak yg beranak kan tu xde nk kesian kan pun.

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  • Any offense that compromise safety whether of their own or to others should be promptly dealt with. It’s evidently clear that soft approach is not working. The statement “If we do 100% enforcement the public will say police are heartless ……” is completely laughable. Can we practice the same approach with other offenses ? The answer is clear.

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    • Cermin gelap 100%, ekzos perang on Oct 23, 2023 at 5:39 pm

      Ye la kita pun mau leniency. Jangan la heartless sangat abam pulis abam jpj

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  • t333son on Oct 23, 2023 at 4:58 pm

    All of us here who hv the means and time to comment on this issue are most probably car owners. We are fortunate enough to have a choice of the means of transportation and the safety features they afford.

    I think many who ride with children sandwiched between 2 adults do so because they are less well off economically. Sometimes it is a necessity rather than choice

    Let’s hope that their future will improve to the point they can afford a safer means of transportation and they remain safe on the road

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    • Ben Yap on Oct 23, 2023 at 5:10 pm

      They can choose not to have kids if they are poor or even better still don’t get married. already poor but still add more problems.

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      • Kerajaan Robinhood on Oct 23, 2023 at 5:40 pm

        Apedehal…take from T20 feed B40

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      • Casino royale on Oct 23, 2023 at 7:08 pm

        Try the rope treatment as seen in the movie. Daniel Craig swears by it. Helps with the itch.

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      • Tah pape tah on Oct 24, 2023 at 10:13 am

        Btol Ben Yap. But mentaliti org ni susah btol. Last2 kata takdir. Pala bana le takdir. Da dia pilih jalan tu spe suruh. Da tahu susah bangang beranak pinak. Pstu merengek nak bantuan sana sini.

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    • Agreed man. My heart breaks everytime i see a kid hugging his dad/mom from behind everytime i go to and from work on my bike. Meanwhile other commenters here just keep on bashing about them.

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    • There is a reason why the tag line “Safety First” was created. It’s seems that you are prioritizing “Affordability First”

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      • Propagation maksima on Oct 23, 2023 at 8:55 pm

        Rubber helmets are both affordable (cheap even) and safe yet not the first priorities. We like it raw

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      • Dureks on Oct 24, 2023 at 3:48 am

        Quite affordable to raise this bunch. Survives on canned sardines & gomen handouts. Hardy species and multiply fast

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  • Safety First or? on Oct 23, 2023 at 5:12 pm

    I recently witnessed a dad on motorcycle with a young child (probably standard 1) clinging onto her dad on a motorcycle. The saddest thing was that the child doesn’t have any grip as she could not hug around her dad given her small frame. The other was that she didn’t have a helmet on her little head. And dad was cutting in and out of traffic.

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  • headyou on Oct 23, 2023 at 7:18 pm

    Don’t be such and arrogant person. Some of us are less fortunate than others. Just pray for their safety.

    Today some of us are in good well being, got car, achieved many things in live. But we never know what future lies ahead for all of us. So stay humble, be considerate.

    Just remember two wrongs don’t make a right.

    And for the motorcyclist, if you happen to read this, try to be safe as possible on the road. Protect your self as well as your kids and wife.

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  • Some of the offending motorcyclists are poor, but I also met some who I knew own large cars but still rides this way, especially for school runs. IMHO, a lot of road users in Malaysia are generally ill-behaved, regardless of their socioeconomic status.

    In an ideal world, I would like to remove all the 2-wheeled vehicles on public roads, including leisure-type rides, superbikes, cafe riders, etc. The risk is just not worth it.

    I also prefer not to drive at all, so I can spend time doing other stuff. But that is just me.

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  • Lance Chau on Oct 23, 2023 at 9:44 pm

    When one know is wrong and yet still do it? What/where went wrong? Education? Yet, are we subsidizing the exam to take B2/P-Hailing license. Generally not co-related but you get the picture.

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  • x city on Oct 24, 2023 at 12:02 am

    kadang2 tu kesian tgk nasib diaorg mcm tu, bukan diaorg nak tetapi keadaan memaksa. Dah ler sekarang semuanya mahal. mungkin belum rezeki diaorg utk beli kereta.

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    • Ben Yap on Oct 24, 2023 at 11:26 am

      pergilah sambung belajar sampai dapat degree atau masters. ini pergi buat grab pastu tunggu bantuan kerajaan. sampai mati pun golongan B40 la tu.

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    • hazri on Oct 24, 2023 at 3:53 pm

      tak mampu beli kereta walaupun 2nd hand yang harga bawah 10k, 5k, tapi mampu buat anak sampai 5,7 orang?

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      • Pancot je on Oct 24, 2023 at 8:29 pm

        Sebab beli raincoat pun x mampu. Pull out game pun lemah. Ape bulih buat?

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  • Betul kalau dari segi udg2 salah bwk bertiga tapi ayat ko tu jgn blagak, jgn sombong sgt, mentang2 la ko org berharta. Ntah2 ko pun pernah bawak bertiga mcm ni

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    • Human centipede on wheels on Oct 24, 2023 at 8:30 pm

      Kita pernah bawak berlima. Kamu?

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    • Dah tau salah apa lagi nak cakap ? on Oct 25, 2023 at 11:17 am

      Dari segi undang dah salah suruh orang jangan sombong ? Otak u tinggal dalam mangkuk atau dalam tahi ?

      Ada kereta ialah sombong ? Mantap la u ni

      Jenis orang macam u memang miskin sepanjang umur je

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  • Laugh on Oct 24, 2023 at 10:25 am

    Apa susah?

    Implementlah new law…
    Extra tax on cars and T20s then give cash to the so called B40 to buy car.

    Tapi problem is the B40s will use the money for other things and then continue breeding even more cause they have nothing better to do and the more they breed, the more pity they get, the more benefits they get.

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    • Sounds like our aedes mosquito problem. Should we just fumigate these pests?

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      • Laugh on Oct 26, 2023 at 8:28 am

        Just close a blind eye and keep going lah.
        When opportunity comes, leave the country for a better one.

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  • UNFAIR leniency on Oct 24, 2023 at 10:37 am

    leniency because these offenders are almost 90% a certain race. This is racial biased. I have seen people getting jailed for stealing a load of bread because his family was starving. Where was that so-called leniency???

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