Proton’s motorsports division Race Rally Research launched the commemorative special edition duo of the Proton Waja MME Edition and Proton GEN.2 MME Edition yesterday evening at The Curve, Mutiara Damansara. 200 Wajas and 200 GEN.2s will be built to celebrate Protons R3 Amprex team emerging victorious as Overall champions and Class O champions completing 279 laps in a specially-built Lotus Exige 300RR. They had the two cars on display as well as some other R3 track cars, so here are some photos for the benefit of those that were not there. Photos and more details on the two cars after the jump. Enlarged photos of all the photos in this post can be viewed by clicking on it.
This is the special edition Proton Waja MME Edition, available only in Deep Burgundy with a manual transmission. There are a couple of aesthetic as well as performance changes to the car over the standard Proton Waja.
The Proton Waja MME Edition recives a new bumper and grille design. The grille has been redesigned to sport a rounder Wau shape instead of the boxy design that the normal Waja sports. How well this curvy design is executed on the predominantly boxy Waja is up to personal preference I suppose.
Another view of the grille and bumper from the front.
Mesh grille for the nose as well as the bumper vents.
New projector headlamps for the Proton Waja. It comes with a Dark Titanium colour scheme and the Waja has Xenon HID lamps, the first on a national production vehicle.
Not much changes to the interior except for an R3 gear knob and R3 floor mats. The new CD player with bluetooth and MP3 support is integrated well into the dash design.
This is the CD player which supports MP3 as well as BlueTooth connection. The text above the LCD display proudly says “Ready for BlueTooth.”
No discernable changes to the meter panel.
This is the R3 gearknob supplied for both cars. Comes with black and red trim with the R3 logo on top of it.
Yes, unfortunately the Waja MME sports the new facelifted thermometer crop circle design as well as the oddly placed WAJA letters above the numper plate.
The R3 Performance Exhaust System ends with a nice mufler tip. The muffler tip with R3 engraved on it is oval shaped on the Proton Waja MME, instead of round-shaped on the GEN.2 MME.
The same alloy wheel design can be found on both the Proton Waja MME and the Proton GEN.2 MME. The 7-spoke, 16×6.5 inch wheels shroud some nice R3 Performance Slotted brake discs on all four wheels. The alloy wheels are wrapped with Continental SportContact-1 tyres in 195/50/R16 size.
That’s it for the Proton Waja MME Edition, now let’s have a look at the Proton GEN.2 MME Edition.
This is the Proton GEN.2 MME Edition, along with two lovely ladies. They’re holding the bundled Apple iPod Nano 1GB.
A sportier bumper with the GEN.2 MME Edition. Some of you might recognise this from the KLIMS 2006 exhibition. Strangely, the GEN.2 MME on display did not feature Dark Titanium headlamps, instead it was equipped with the standard Proton GEN.2 headlamps. But you can have a look at how Dark Titanium GEN.2 headlamps look like on Proton’s race-equipped GEN.2 later in this post.
This is the rear view of the Proton GEN.2 MME Edition.
A closer look at the R3 muffler tip. Unlike the Waja MME’s oval tailpipe, the GEN.2 MME’s tailpipe is circular shaped. It has the letters R3 engraved on the top.
Interior of the Proton GEN.2 MME Edition. Like the Proton Waja MME, it sports special R3 floor mats and the red and black gearknob.
Engine bay for the Proton GEN.2 MME Edition. Here you can see the two-point strut bar included with the car, as well as the red alloy CamPro engine cover.
Here’s some random photos of cars displayed at the launch. This race-built GEN.2 has Dark Titanium headlamps.
This is the 1.6 litre R3-prepared Proton Satria used in the recent R3 MME06 Driver Selection Program.
This is a race-prepared Proton Satria R3. The 1.8 litre DOHC 4G93P engine in this baby makes 180.7bhp at 6,500rpm and an enormous 200Nm of torque at 5,500rpm. More on this car later.
Race Rally Research will only be making 5 cars a day to ensure production is up to quality control standards. 200 cars each with a total of 400 cars will be available, with each of them coming with a unique serial number. Credits to Suanie and her funky twisty camwhore camera. That’s about it for now. The Proton Waja MME 1.6 manual costs RM66,671.03 while the Proton GEN.2 MME 1.6 manual costs RM59,789.81. For other details please check my previous post, Proton Waja MME and Proton GEN.2 MME.
Just interested in the girls… not the cars. :)
acbc :
typical msian!
i expect RWD, twin tail pipe and rear air diffuser!
btw…where they put waja's front signal?
The only thing worth noting is the nice burgundy black color of the Waja. Proton try to choke me to death? Performance floor mats? lol~ Imagine BMW M Kitted 5 series to only come with a 'special' gearknob and floor mat….. wtf…. not even a change to a sportier steering for the Gen2….. and again, 16" on Waja is not "sporty" enough…. at least a 17" Rays engineering would look good. (perhaps a replica lar proton….)
should wipe off the WAJA 4 letters….it looks lame…..the tail light is arguably ok only.
ya la…
where's the front signal ehh?
the would be waja R3 owner should immediately change the rear lights to further "enchance" the rear ;)
I'll have the original Waja please, tq.
Gen.2 MME is really cool.
And yes, the Waja MME won't pass PUSPAKOM requirement because Proton swallowed the front signals. lol.
The waja’s front signal lights is at the bumper. Look closely, you can see clearly on the third picture. (Proton Waja Photos)
You mean at the bottom down there??? Waa.. then no more foglight?
Niiice… ^_^
No wonder its cheap. Nothing much changed. I would get a regular Waja then modify.
The Waja looked nice. from yesterdays pictures. But now when I look at it properly, it is so plain and bare. Look at those tiny signals…
Why didn't they remove the ugly thermometer. Previous lights are better than this.
The Waja so call "Special Edition" price at RM66,671.03 compare to standard RM56,108.55. It is a different of RM10,562.48. Paul mentioned the only items from R3 are gear knob and floor mats plus R3 imprint on exhaust pipe. Are these items are the only outcome of their Research? Look at cosmetic change to front and special color scheme with gear knob and floor mats, do they cost a whopping RM 10K ++?
How about the exhaust pipe, do the JPJ will approve them if the sound generated is nuisance to public?
Congratulation and good luck to Proton for making good money from this "Special Edition" tag? If good response from "damn blind buyers", then can increase the volume, including utilize 2005 model to clear stock.
mystvearn said – Why didn’t they remove the ugly thermometer. Previous lights are better than this.
Aiya, to diffentiate them from 2005 model mah, ………
OtakOtak: Did you read my post? They've added HID lights, a bodykit, better disc brakes, and better tyres. The exhaust system is a whole new system, not just a pretty muffler tip and that together with the spark plugs provide for an 8hp dyno-proven increase. And you don't know how the new exhaust system sounds like, how do you know if it's a nuisance?
Paul noted your comments! How about power window? Is it not mentioned by you is means not change and is it same with my 2003 Waja? So will fail within a year for "Limited Edition"?
No, R3 did not develop or install R3 Performance Power Windows as I don't think it's in their scope. We can assume it's the same as the normal Proton Waja's.
dammit, the waja looked tons better in the previous post….. sad case
please….R3 version super duper power window is not available in the MME version…..nice bodykit for Waja and Gen 2 MME..But i would like to see Satria Neo steering wheel to replace gen2's one which i think is the best design ever…just my humble opinion…
Looks so AH BENG! Yuks!
the cd player look kinda cheap ^^; not-quite-fit the ipod (look)
Looks half-hearted, these MME cars. Funny how they can design n fit a sporty bodykit on the Waja and still make it look boring. Just my opinion.
I did wish proton has a public forum for us to give our VALUBLE COMMENTS! Well if they dont hv power windows, how ar we going to wind down the windows????? use hands, press and slide it down. >.
Same bad-natured comments were said when R3 launched the Satria R3, but look now: it remained limited, it wasn't old stock (double-stitch welded bodyshells), it drives real fast and corners hard, and is now very desireable. These MME cars are definitely different, and for the price, they're ok: I was at the Curve today and saw them in the flesh, they're pretty impressive. Heck I'd pay that money for the MME Editions rather than the Accent RXS5 or something! I am a Waja owner, and some of the R3 parts interest me.. at least I know I get quality and warranty.
And how can we compare it to M5s and stuff.. the M5 is a great car, but I know you guys still can't afford it, so what's your point here??
As it's a Proton's product(very sensitive issue,ISA must start to act against people who degrades it…just kidding)…i dare not to make any comment.
Just watch the ladies will do..they look pretty…;)
………. LOL…. waja… LOL waja.. LOL…..(rolling on the floor) …LOL
come on!!!! just look at the interior… does not even compliment the exterior..
just the obvoius stuff.. gear knob and mat… my little cousin did that on this waja too.. but he got a better player.. with USB connection! cool eh… bluetooth… what the hack for?? like iam gonna connect my phone tru it and talk to the radio??? ipoD.. better invest that money into my sound system.. ipods are for chicks/ faggots .. i dont have to say! The changes to the meter panel are the same. the steering wheel also.. why cant they chnage it to a sporty one with some buttons on it. This shows how much they have done… so called research! R3?? just a BS line to con malaysians! the meter have not changed at all. cut cost as usual! lol..
On the other hand,i kinda like the gen2.Its compliments the current sporty looks with the Xtra bodykit and minor changes to the interior.. iam sure they will see more of the Gen2 R3on the road compared to waja!
overall i think the best R3 model so far is the satria R3.. they have put more time and money than those 2 new ones.. so my story is.. buy the old satria R3… worth it!
Not bad… and pls don't mention the RSX5… damn Ah Beng cars by Ah Beng company. Did ya check out their booth during KLIMS '06 recently? :(
I prefer the Waja (nice bodykit) and the Gen2 girls, looks cute…..
haha… the chick next to the waja… deserve some credit.. she had the.. u know what to stand there man!!!
the chicks next to gen2.. simply.. stunning..
with that price should include a leather bound steering wheel and gear knob. give a bit better seats. do away with the mats. the air intake grills at front of engine should be high quality plastic dark in color instead of a cheap wire fence like to distinguish it as a original tuner sportskit if they want to market under R3.
the increased exhaust system and sparkplugs are a plus though it wont be felt much.
yea the gen2 girls do look good.
my funky twisty camwhore camera is even better
i like d waja front bumper…looks good…btw…dun hv feeling to own one…
NICE chicks……………… again P1 prove themself doing a lot of things by doing nothing at all; i guess that is what P1 is great at……NOTHING……….
IMHO, Proton is pushing its cars towards the segment of the market where all the Ah Bengs are.
Everything either has a 'sports' theme or a 'racing' theme. But then again, it's R3 we're talking about, and it stands for Race, Rally and Research.
That Waja MME front bumper looks really mean – large air intakes as if to cool down some radiator behind those mesh. Got side-bumper air-vent also!! Well, I see this kinda bumper alot in Evos.
Are there ABS and Airbags for the MME models?
R3 may be hitting the bullseye with the first two R's, now onto the third R. How about Researching the interior, the mechanisms, electronics and quality.
I'd rather be paying for the quality than sideskirts and R3 muffler tips or discs. HID is nice, but expensive to replace. My Waja's ABS warning light always comes on after about 5-10 minutes of driving together with the handbrake-light, and nobody at Proton could tell me what's wrong and how to rectify it – been like that for months, went to Mutiara D'sara as well as Glenmarie. Not to mention rattling noises from the undercarriage, etc.
We want functionality, and practicality (I'm tired of repeating the word 'quality'). The bumper's mesh grille aren't functional – there is no large radiator that needs cooling. The skirts aren't functional, they're merely for aesthetics. The gearknob's definitely for aesthetics (remember, R3 is making money ya). The R3 engraved muffler – I have no comment except to say that it should be offered as an optional thing. And everything costs about RM10K extra.
With the rolling out of Waja MME, are they targeting a 'niche market' (again) like the case of Satria Neo? Because you see, not everybody likes those mean looks (mis-)matched with puny wheels.
The MME cars are mostly cosmetic upgrades, if anything. Except probably the R3 brakes (wonder how much different in terms of performance compared to non-R3 braking system), the R3 exhaust system (again, I'm skeptical about its difference from the original non-R3 system. Less pollution ah?), and HID lights because they really do improve night visibility.
By the way, those lights at the bumper of the Waja MME look like foglights to me.
I hope my comments sound more constructive than bashing.
if only this malaysian car company can make these cars as one of the main product in their production line and not limit them to just 200. this is the example of a nice and sell-able and export-able car. proton… proton… in countries in the whole world, thier production car is that good, but proton is limiting them to 200. silly proton.
Looks-wise, the Waja is ok. The new grille design is a little off though. If driven behind, it looks as if it is smiling which at some level disturbs me. Plus the grille looks like one giant heart so when someone in it feels like racing illegally and tailgates you, just remember that its his best and "closest" way of saying I HEART YOU ( or is it "Im a numbskull")
The Gen-2 overall has the best exterior design. I adore the bumper design. It looks very nice and contoured. Seems like this time, R3 has outdone themselves. Sorry folks, not really a big fan of R3 kits especially the Savvy kit.
One thing though. I couldn't help but notice the vent on the sides of the Waja and Gen2 bumpers resembling the R-34 GT-R. IMHO, it is a blatant ripoff of a truly great car that actually had a real purpose for the vent design and not just for showcase.
Final review
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Waja – Rm 66k. Sorry folks, would rather buy the normal Rm56k Waja and a Evo4/5/6 halfcut and install the engine, brakes and everything. Would turn out alot better. No offense ;)
Gen-2 – This is ok in my books. Considering the high-line standard manual transmission is Rm 56k and this MME version is Rm59k, this is actually worthy of purchasing. Plus the bumper looks ALOT better than the estranged one found on the Waja. Lets hope they never continue with that horrendous bumper, otherwise all the Wajas would be smiling and hearting everybody across Malaysian soil. Echhh
Aiya, R3 try to create market excitement about Proton car! Look like desperate attempt and the dust will settle down after a few week. R3 on Satria because the styling also done by Lotus and this is nich market section target at "young, professional & trendy". I don't think pakcik/makcik car like Waja and Gen-2 can create similar excitement!
Now I know why they choose the thermometer tailgate. The new HID projector headlamp of the WAJA looks exactly the same. They just do the continuity of the design. Still it looks horrible. i wonder why the don't just move the nose on the WAJA. Just make it the same as as the GEN-2 grille. Just look at othe marque, their grille is their identity.
Now I know why they choose the thermometer tailgate. The new HID projector headlamp of the WAJA looks exactly the same as the thermometer.(look at the photo closely). They just do the continuity of the design. Still it looks horrible. i wonder why the don't just move the nose on the WAJA. Just make it the same as as the GEN-2 grille. Just look at othe marque, their grille is their identity.
nice!!!!
agreed that the interior still doesnt make it stand out as a limited 200 pcs production model. could have easily made the entire dashboard black n carbon inserts here n there. even a black gen2 seat in the waja would look good.
but gotta understand, these arent R3 editions, these are MME edition. so im guessing they r leaving the good bits to the R3 editions. probably MME editions are the teaser models :P
the thermometer lights are alright… but the W-A-J-A wording is just plain unnescessary.
altruis said,
August 5, 2006 @ 9:16 pm
You mean at the bottom down there??? Waa.. then no more foglight?
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Yup.. no more foglight for Waja. Same with Gen. 2. Gen. 2 also don't have foglight.
I read at R3's website, they said Gen. 2 R3 foglight were removed for weight reduction. Not sure how much weight are reduced though.
kai_grandmaster said,
August 6, 2006 @ 11:13 am
if only this malaysian car company can make these cars as one of the main product in their production line and not limit them to just 200. this is the example of a nice and sell-able and export-able car. proton… proton… in countries in the whole world, thier production car is that good, but proton is limiting them to 200. silly proton.
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are you kidding me? doesnt even come close to exportable. you could export it, but dont think they are going to be fooled by a facelifted 'Asia's BMW',……expect it to sit thier in the car yards rusting away until a grandma rocks up and wanted an alternative to a body kitted up hyundai excel. they are problably better off with the hyundai anyway. you get tons of cheap spare parts.
Asia's answer to BMW, never fails to make me cringe everytime. and also that one, your first lotus!.
why don't P1 just modify the engine and give it a 200 hp increase and I'll be satisfied.
nice!!!!!
sell accord….can buy both for them???
haiya…to many "The point of no return Mandarin TV Series" type of comments…
anyway, Proton should install Airbag into their R3 series.
zie said,
August 6, 2006 @ 10:06 pm
why don’t P1 just modify the engine and give it a 200 hp increase and I’ll be satisfied
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And how much would you be willing to pay to for that???
desperate move to clear the old stocks…
told you before, dont wait or you will get frustrated.
Cant you guys see , even the GEN2 ON DISPLAY doesnt come with the new headlamps.if you are rich 10k is nothing but rich and smart people sure will use if for something else.not for some extra plug and play items.For 66k can get good second hand civic and drive for next 10 years..just..make sure it does not GET STOLEN.
zie said,
August 6, 2006 @ 10:06 pm
why don’t P1 just modify the engine and give it a 200 hp increase and I’ll be satisfied.
it is not good to drive a Proton with 200 horses…it is not safe…
Quite agreed with that. The new MME model owner just check the new car registration car whether is "make in 2006" or "UBAH SUAI 2006". B4 u know that, u have 2 pay 4 it in order 2 know. Please update on this issue if any of new owners of MME, post in this blog of cos thank u.
mycar_stolen said,
August 7, 2006 @ 9:20 am
desperate move to clear the old stocks…
where are the indicator lights in front of the waja??
Honestly I think the Waja product has already passed it sell-by date (around 4 years) and i can see that there is less new Waja's being bought these days (no hard numbers). Therefore in view of the decline is interest in Waja, Proton is now is making a very vague attempt to try and revive the interest but my opinion is that it has not lit enough people's fire.
I would suggest to Proton that, instead of souping up an inherently flawed (just look the door handle design and you would know what i mean) design, they should move the game forward and enhance the product like how the other Japanese car makers are doing it e.g. Honda Civic constantly reinventing itself, or facelits (proper ones and not just change of headlamps with after market part, it is just not enough).
Satria Neo is a good example of the direction that Proton should take Waja to, albeit that they still made fundamental flawless (the headroom is unforgivable). I can see all the money (for Waja) being put to better use and developing the product and bettering it. Yet, all they did is souped up something which anyone else on the street with a Waja and a dollop of cash can do. Is this all our National car maker, something we are suppose to take pride of, can do?
Nothing against Wajas (I drive one) but i would change to another marque when and if i get the chance.
haha… yalor… besides i find the lights at the bumper there seem to be foglights… if those 'foglights' are the signal lights, then the car really lacks of foglights! kinda bad design here… if i own this car, i will immediately change tat audio system… looks sucks.. even with watever i-Pod stuff with it… it juz… yuckssss!
Proton still has a long way to go before being world class. Just look at fuel consumption compared to a volvo.
1.6 auto satria neo 110 horsepower Versus Volvo c70 220 horsepower
Satria Neo 1.6auto 6.9 liter per 100 km and Volvo C70 = 7 liter per 100km.
Both the fuel consumption is about the same but volvo is double the horsepower and not mentioning volvo c70 is much heavier.
Also now talking about acceleration.
Satria neo 1.6 auto and manual.
0-100km takes 11.5 for the manual and for the auto 13.7 seconds
that's about 19% difference
for volvo C70 (220hp)
0-100km/h for manual is 7.6 seconds and for the auto is from 0-100km/h which 8 seconds which translates to 5.2% difference in speed. Proton has a long way to go
http://www.satrianeo.com.my/showroom/satrianeo-fe…
This is the performance of the Volvo C 70
http://www.volvocars.com/models/c70/techSpec.htm
oh..my god,proton always let us no surprise…disgusting….
r dey selling da parts seperately ?
btw , i like da equipments , dey r nice .
szw – maybe you can buy the R3 gear knob and floor mat as a souvenir!
yup, that would make your car go fast and corner like a lotus
satrialover, try driving a volvo around KL town all day, and you will understand the meaning of the word, "real world performance".
those fuel figures only work on the highway, with no traffic to slow you down.
hikaru, in all fairness to R3, i think they have a different agenda, and development schedule as compared to the regular protons on sale. they do not design or build the cars, but take whats available in the proton stable.
Satrialover if you test drive a Volvo I'm afraid that later you have to change your ID Volvotruelover.
When you able to buy a C70 never cross your mind on FC issue. neither is it Volvo C70 or Honda C70 :-) :-)
I am saving up my money for a volvo sports car. I am currently driving my 1996 1.6 auto Junk Proton Satria car. Someone make the cars expensive. So I have to get the junk satria. Though it is a junk but it is still nice to drive a junk. I love junks :-)
Hmmmm…..the R3 designed front grill for the WAJA MME looks out of place. It doesn't blend well with the headlights and the front bumper at all. Other than that it looks decent. BTW the R3 muffler tip on the WAJA MME looks alot like the one found in the R3 Savvy sports muffler as well. I should know as I've installed the R3 Savvy sports muffler for my Savvy.:-P
ckengyo said,
August 7, 2006 @ 11:25 am
Quite agreed with that. The new MME model owner just check the new car registration car whether is “make in 2006″ or “UBAH SUAI 2006″. B4 u know that, u have 2 pay 4 it in order 2 know. Please update on this issue if any of new owners of MME, post in this blog of cos thank u.
mycar_stolen said,
August 7, 2006 @ 9:20 am
desperate move to clear the old stocks
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I would think a BRAND NEW Variant recently launched would be made out of NEW cars but you two seem to think you know better… incredible what kinda conspiracy theory crops up
2 year ago when R3 came out with the Satria R3, some fools were screaming"old stock" .fools like our two friends here.
But I have several friends who drive Satria R3 and when they took delivery, checked the chassis and documents, they were fresh as a freshly baked apple pie.
So please leave all this dumb " OLD Stock" proclaimations aside and discuss about the cars and their looks and/or equipment.
It's satrting to get tiresome.
Paul Tan,
I apologise but I really can't abide IDIOTS. Especially on a Informative Automobile oriented blog such as yours.
Guys, let's think logically here. The Waja Campro is relatively new in the market, how can it be a few years old stock? Don't tell me they took the old Mitsu-engined Wajas, ripped out the block and throw aside and put a Campro in?
superman said,
August 8, 2006 @ 4:19 pm
But I have several friends who drive Satria R3 and when they took delivery, checked the chassis and documents, they were fresh as a freshly baked apple pie.
your friends…your very3 smart friend(buy Proton almost RM80K/USD20K) will never tell any bad things about their super duper over priced expensive local made malaysian specs satria. they wont, they already paid hefty sums sure everything they informs will support their purchase.
So mr superman as you are one no .0001 fan of "center of excellence PROTON" :-) WHERE IS ACTUALLY THE CAMPRO ENGINE MANUFACTURING PLANT? the originality of CAMPRO?
Paul Tan said,
August 8, 2006 @ 6:29 pm
Guys, let’s think logically here. The Waja Campro is relatively new in the market, how can it be a few years old stock? Don’t tell me they took the old Mitsu-engined Wajas, ripped out the block and throw aside and put a Campro in?
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paul,
while there is no evidence to support that, we can assume it is so. the factories produce so much to keep above the required quota and where does the stock go? especially now that nobody in the world wants new proton cars (let alone the 10-20 year old model protons). whats gonna happen to all that stockpile we see in the yards. there is not only a few of those stockyards of new 'old' protons sitting around in kl and surrounding areas, there is alot more in other parts of the country.
these body kits and mme editions are just for them to fiddle around with clear excess inventory. knowing full well the public would buy it as we saw with the proton saga and those iswara cosmetic 'updates'.
common la guys..i'm sick reading all of your comments which 'kutuk abis-abisan' proton tu.proton is our national car what…we should be proud of it..at least proton hve come out wit the idea of the amazing R3.what bout perodua?????hahahahahaha!!!!the new waja,it's cool.the new zerokits also marvelous maa…to all that kutuk2 proton,what car do u drive huh???go proton n R3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and plz stop saying bout that "old stock" stuff la…
to mycar_stolen,
go to google,and search 4 it la…
6 year-old kid can do maa…
campro 1.6 is a lot better(damn powerful,juz like 1.8,i've tried da waja campro) than the 1.6 mitsu engine..
waja R3 should hve bigger spoiler la..juz like evo6 @ evo 8..baru match!
FYI!!!!!!!!!!!!
read this n stop making foolish guesses on campro:
SPESEL 2 mycar_stolen!
Developed in partnership with Lotus Engineering, this engine grants PROTON complete vehicle design independence. Its breakthrough engine technology produces low fuel consumption, yet gives rapid, high power response, and can even be produced to run on alternative fuels.
Its represents true world class powertrain engineering, and a revolutionary step forward in engine manufacture, with low toxic emissions, low noise levels and above all, highly economical maintenance of long service intervals.
The Campro engine utilizes two ingenious technologies to give high power and rapid response, whilst maintaining low fuel consumption. Cam Profile Switching and Variable Intake Manifold technology.
Together, these technologies give the best if both worlds, essentially combining the best characteristics of two different engines in one compact package. The usual reduction in peak torque caused by High Lift cams is corrected by the Long Runner. The short runner works with the high lift cams to re-tune the engine and generate more power at high speed.
PUAS ATI?
raverus said:
NICE chicks……………… again P1 prove themself doing a lot of things by doing nothing at all; i guess that is what P1 is great at……NOTHING……….
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what r u talking bout?from a car which use mitsu engines to self-made engines.that is what u call NOTHING??
btw paul,may i know is da perdana replacement model is coming soon?
why can't people kutuk proton. Someone indirectly forced us to buy Proton. I won't say who. But u know who lah.
Dear matmoto_5125,
thank you for your info on CAMPRO what I want to know where is this so called PROTON own engine is manufactured? and why it has a lots of CHINA made parts in it?who knows this please answer? Proton people always avoid this q?
and to SUPERMAN…if you think ckengyo and mycar_stolen are couple of idiots..I tell you what is idiots…
if you are driving of Proton because of you dont have other choice then it is ok..because you wil switch to other makes as the time come.but if you supporting the make because you are driving one of their car also ok…but when you call other people idiots because they are commenting on mind torture, total bullying cmpany like Proton that a TRUELY IDIOT.
I just trying to set the yet to buy a car visitor to not buy a Proton..I want they use their hard earn money on what their like.
satrialover,r u really a SATRIA LOVER?
mycar_stolen,nowadays it seems 2 be all the stuff dat we consume are made in china.y?coz to reduce da cost laa…made in china doesn't really mean dat it is low in quality.take a look at ur@ur fren nike,puma,adidas stuff,r they made in US?no,they'rfrom thai,indonesia,phillipine..same goes wit proton.the battery in waja campro is made in phillipine maa..but it is high in quality.y?coz da batt got TUV quality approval..think globalization laa..
matmoto_5125
errr..if you talking about globalisation and quality ..hello? so dont buy Proton la..this not a global brand and will not be one…tell you what why you want to waste your money on an unknown brand..global market(Proton truely a jaguh kampung only sell in Msia, crazy la).I share you my experience
my friends not msian from all over the world hardly believe there is a MSIAN CAR..they argued with me likes "I thought it a japanese, a mitsu????" I show them wira photo.thye travel around the world Proton is not exist, not in the list not a car make at all.but all of them will shocked like hell when I told them a "regular sedan, 1.5 liter sohc, price about USD 13500" malaysian make/brand sell in their own country price of even the rich Abramovich wont buy one for the CHELSEA ball picker. go on la support this brand..later your granddaughter will curse you into hell.
mycar_stolen,my grandaughter won't curse me into hell la..she is a gud girl maa..lol..i think dat story took place long time ago.show ur fren waja,gen2,savvy or neo pics la,dat r true proton made car.
btw,proton is not too bad la..from mitsu engine to self-made campro :)
matmoto_5125; self-made campro – piston Made in Australia!
Is that Campro engine with 1.3L and 1.5L is so great achievement. This is totally katak kampung di bawah tempurung view. In you want to think globalization, even Lexus with 5.0L as post by Paul, if the Japs have same mentality like you, then they need to be 3 or 4 time "prouder" than you if this level is measured "proportionate" to engine cc?
Talk about globalization, if Campro engine throw into world class technological hubs like Toyota City, Silicon Valley, German's Merc, VW, Audi and Beemer factory. For them, the only place for this engine is "REJECT FACTORY"!
Bring back "Joe Ooi", let him with critical "hardtalk" broaden this kampong boy narrow mind!
I like satria. But I hate that interior and the milo tin and the interior, seats can all cabut when the car gets old :-( My next car will definitely not be a proton.
how do you know it will be in reject factory?tested ka?
so satrialover,what car do u get in mind now?
Joe Ooi,OtakOtak calls u.
I have Volvo in mind as my next car :-)
if you ask me, proton did a good job designing the car, no doubt about it especially satria and the satria neo. But when come to interior and quality it's not good.
matmoto_5125 – definitely Campro will be in "Reject Factory" for world class player. You can test yourself? How do this small engine fit into "ultimate driving machine" like Beemer 3, 5 or 7 series. Even this engine doesn't meet BMW 1 series requirement. How about A, B, C, E & S-Class of Merc! Same to Audi A6, Lexus, etc??? Do you think the Campro can run this big car ah, try take merc S-Class kereta potong and fit in the Campro, then you know what happen. By mass car world class standard, any engine with above 2.4L then only can claim the best with desirable Horse Power.
Talk about 1.3L and 1.6L, if really Campro good, then on global outlook, P1 should set a target of at least sell one million car per annum and "attack" market like Japan, Korea, Europe, USA, China, India, etc just like Kia or Hyundai to bring in Yen, Won, Euro, USD, Yuan, Rupee to enrich this Bolehland. The jargon for world class player with global view is "ATTACK" world market to enrich homeland, not kampong player expected "PROTECTION" at home turf at all cost, make the rakyat become "poorer and uglier".
Don't always expected and tell rakyat to be patriotic on a "condition" to support P1 at all cost. If P1 truely a national project and want rakyat to be proud of what they do, then the true patriotic for P1 is has to protect the rakyat by say (like China market) sell Savvy at RM 25K, Satria Neo at RM 30K, Waja at 35K, Perdana at RM 70K, etc. Go to global market and so that P1 is world class player, not telling rakyat that P1 is Jaguh Kampong which need to be protected by rakyat.
volvo s40 best.. :)
true,when it come 2 da interior,proton has failed.the interior of savvy,new saga,gen2 n even the neo is damn hard like rock maa..mybe strategy 2 cut cost.but dont do this to consumer,they put da soft interior only to higher class segment,like waja n perdana.(wira is fortunate 2 hve soft interior)…even avanza is hard like rock..cut cost maa…
all new proton's meter cluster r like lotus europa,i think..
best in class maa in sedan 2.0L n below..u want to hve a race between waja campro wit galardo damn not fair la..try with vios,sure campro is better. ;)
paul,i hope proton ppl see this blog,they can sure improve a lot by taking note of all da comments.
satrialover,try consider BMW.M5 ka..the stndard 5series would also be nice..
proton is now in da move to discard all the japanese car iras2..
the new waja tail lamp is closely like ford mondeo's..closely la…n the new headlight juz follow the tail light design..
otakotak said-matmoto_5125; self-made campro – piston Made in Australia!
when i mentioned self-made,dat means proton owns dat engine n they build it.the made-in-where is not da issue..think deeper..
otak otak ni kurang otak la…you think Honda engine has all made in japan parts inside ka? balik tanam jagung la lu. Ha ha ha.
The most ah beng is the Accent with scissor doors. Why dont you kutuk on the cars too?
I forgot, its not a Proton.
Anyway, I drove a Waja the other day, a plain stupid looking 1.6 with the unpowerful Campro engine. And then came along this Hyundai Accent with a HUGE GT wing on the boot, trying to overtake me.
I lifted off the accelerator and allowed him to overtake. Fine, rally-bred car I said, must give way la.
Then came a nice sweeping turn and the bugger slowed down. I said what the F laaa….I took the corner in fifth gear with one hand picking my nose, overtook the bugger and sped off.
Accent cannot take corner meh? I thought rally bred car, not Proton some more, so should be faster and better la. If cannot take corner, then I rather stick to a Proton lah. Power window failure can kowtim. My Elise oso wind down window and leaks, never mind, as long as can take corners.
And again I forgot, Malaysians prefer fast-looking cars as they have driving skills of a kindergarten kid.
But to be fair, Proton's power window SUCKS big time.
yep,u r right chrisbangle,otakotak is kureng la..lol..gud example la,not all honda parts r from japan maa..even merc now is being built in pekan phg..kui kui..some m'sian consider only the outer side of da car..accent is rally bred??but always at da bottom of da rank..
ya, i remember one publication kutuk the hyundai wingdoor cars. it was in NST. was it CBT ah? no la, dont think they have such a good sense of humour and i think they jaga advertisers. think maybe it was the main paper.
wingdoors…try to be faked lamboghini ka..
Dear Chris Bangle,
Please do not compare Proton with other makes..please please please.
They are continental cars, they are Japanese and Proton in different group.Dont compare Proton with other makes as the roots of all the problems come from Proton. Even the "Oldman" admitted that he regret to start the Proton project. Proton is symbol of FAILURE,DESPERATION and FRUSTRATION.
if the price is good(reasonable), good quality people dont care what is the brand.but Proton power window failed as soon as you try to wave your hand to the salesguy for the delivery still within the PROTON showroom compound.PROTON buy one car free 1000 problems.
chrisbangle said,
August 11, 2006 @ 2:28 pm
otak otak ni kurang otak la…you think Honda engine has all made in japan parts inside ka? balik tanam jagung la lu. Ha ha ha.
have you working in ASSB (toyota assembler in Shah Alam)? dont say you have..because from your explaination, you never been working for both Proton & Other. dont say it continental because the assembler is malaysian…most of them is kelantanis…dont say it 100% quality checking…it just 60% quality checking in factory for assembly…
I think you guys are not complaining hard enough. And I stand corrected, the Accent, in its stock guise, is a sissy car, just like the Myvi. Kereta ahso pergi pasar.
Proton rules!*
By the way, name me one local publication that will critisize a car sold in Malaysia. NST main paper?
Who reads NST?
*As long as it belongs to the G.
i dun know..anyone?
so what you're saying is… if a tree falls on a mime in a forest and nobody else is around, did it really happen?
if nobody reads NST, then lord help all those motoring magazines with one-twentieth the circulation.
mybe..lol…
I still prefer the volvo c70 though :-)
I still prefer the volvo c70 as safety is the top of my agenda when buying a car.
oo..dat car also good..when u get it,install supercharger n da GT wing.giler gempak r. :)
chrisbangle said, August 11, 2006 @ 2:28 pm
"otak otak ni kurang otak la…you think Honda engine has all made in japan parts inside ka? balik tanam jagung la lu. Ha ha ha."
chrisbangle, you misquote me. My statement to matmoto means his claimed of Campro is made in malaysia is not a big deal! Don't expect all Malaysian have to be proud of what the P1 is able to do! I even can let you know (or you already know) that Honda Accord manufacture in USA is "100%" made in USA, including the Honda "H" badge. That why I still maintain nothing for Malaysian to be proud of 1.3 and 1.5L Campro engine, as the world market is flooded with all kind of engine 2.4L and above!
matmoto – you said not fair to compare with different class of engine. Then for ever you Kampung Jaguh unable to learn and upgrade your self to global player. If Campro is freak 1.3L and 1.5L engine, then they have to come out with big cc engine to compete. If you don't want to benchmark with world best, forever you are Kampong Jaguh!
Remember, compare with the like of Vios doesn't make P1 any improvement as Vios is "local best" produce by Toyota specifically for ASEAN market like our Bolehland and selling at more than RM 70K. If no NAP and operate under free market. Toyota don't need to sell Vios in our country with this price and will sell "world best" car like Toyota Camry 2.4L at around RM 70K as in the USA!
I think OtakOtak is Joe Ooi.
matmoto – you said not fair to compare with different class of engine. Then for ever you Kampung Jaguh unable to learn and upgrade your self to global player. If Campro is freak 1.3L and 1.5L engine, then they have to come out with big cc engine to compete. If you don’t want to benchmark with world best, forever you are Kampong Jaguh!
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aiyo..campro is very new to da market,it is an achievement to hve an engine..what?u mean they can develope an engine in juz a night??R&D should take couple of years maa..campro was introduced to us in 2004,n now is juz 2006,juz wait,then only proton will come out with bigger-cc campro.they r sure dont want to stick to dat 1.3 n 1.6 engine logicaly.
i said TEST DA POWER WIT VIOS la..!!coz u'r saying campro is not powerful enuf in its segment..
did you already test it among them…??i already test it…n campro got the standard compared to the other…
OK noted your comment, what you and I talking is in "different frequency". You make an objective comparison for engine performance with same segment (similar cc) and I talk about how to be world class player!
But I never said "Campro is not powerful enuf in its segment" as mentioned by you. What I say is by world class player perspective, Campro is not good enough to compete in world market and nothing for us to be proud of. Hope my clarification "clear the dust".
From biz perspective, the main KPI is sales/turnover and from marketing point of view, the car shall look in totality, e.g. the styling, shape, functionality, comfort, quality, design, etc, etc. A success car shall be able to penetrate world market, not like P1 basically limited to our country. If what P1 claimed in front of us this and that is good , then export the car, prove the point by "attack/conquer" the world market.. Get in the foreign currency to enrich us, rather than suck every ringgit possible from local rakyat to "support" it existence.
Look at historical on politic, Roman, Ottoman, China, British and now American Empayar existence is because they are able to conquer and colonise other, protect and enrich their empayar/people. Do this empayar existence is out of their people protect the empayar? Same to P1, want to be dominant player, then must have the capacity to "attack/conquer", if always ask rakyat to protect it, then forever jaguh kampong – "telor sebiji riuh satu kampong"! P1 never learn from history!
between I don't really like to alter cars unless I really have to :-) I have not altered my satria though.
i booked Gen2 MME model d!..now waiting for the allocation..but not sure whether can get it before national day..for me Waja MME look lil bit odd but Gen2 MME is cool…performance wise, i do not really know as i never had a proton car before (must try it! hehe)..but for an aesthetically, yes! sporty body kit! that matters for me :P
guys, dont compare malaysian car and foreign car too much la…honda, toyota and all that car manifacturers were already established when our Tun gave an idea of a national car 20+ years ago…so, give proton some more time..maybe another 10 to 20 years we can have our own 100% self made engine, parts etc..all made in malaysia..but im sure myself and most of u, if we can afford and hv extra money to buy more expensive and quality car..GO AHEAD..which is definitely better than proton! no doubt and no point to argue bout it!
for those who felt its not worth to buy national car, where is more expensive and low quality (compare to other country's national car) yes, it's true, our cost of living in malaysia is high..so just go and find other country that suits u and buy their national car..
proud to be malaysian!
satu hasil kerja yang teliti yang dilakukan oleh pihak R3 dalam melonjakkan jenama proton ke persada antarabangsa.saya telah menaiktaraf waja saya menjadi waja R3 di proton motorsport shah alam.apa yang ingin dikatakan di sini ialah perbezaan yang ketara dapat dirasakan berbanding waja std.apa yang perlu ialah pihak R3 perlu mempromosi jenama ini sehingga ke peringkat yang tertinggi agar jenama ini dikenalai oleh seluruh rakyat malaysia dan menjadi satu kebanggaan kepada pemilik kenderaan proton.R3 boleh….
why dont u support malaysia car…i dont know what u looking at…if malaysia not producing a car..everybody shouting loud outside…if we develop a car, no body support..