Proton Exora: Malaysia’s first MPV from RM69,998!
After a long long wait, Malaysians finally have a decently sized MPV at a decent price to choose from. The new Proton Exora is here and two variants will be available at launch time – a 1.6 liter automatic high-line and a 1.6 liter automatic medium-line, priced at RM75,998.00 and RM69,998.00 respectively OTR with insurance. Head on after the jump for the full scoop on the Exora.
Dimensions, Power, Weight – Technical Data
Firstly I think I have to address the actual dimensions of the car, because when you buy an MPV what you are looking for is essentially a big box to fit your family in. There has been some revision to the data that Proton provided us during the prototype test drive (particularly the weight, which is now heavier – 1422kg for M-Line and 1442kg for H-Line). Here are the final specs of the Exora in comparison to its competitors.
| Exora | Livina 1.6 | Avanza 1.5 | Rondo | Innova | |
| Kerb Weight | 1,422kg | 1,245kg | 1,120kg | 1,563kg | 1,575kg |
| Length | 4,592mm | 4,420mm | 4,150mm | 4,545mm | 4,580mm |
| Width | 1,809mm | 1,690mm | 1,630mm | 1,800mm | 1,770mm |
| Height | 1,691mm | 1,590mm | 1,695mm | 1,650mm | 1,755mm |
| Wheelbase | 2,730mm | 2,600mm | 2,655mm | 2,700mm | 2,750mm |
| Track (F) | 1,542mm | 1,470mm | 1,415mm | 1,573mm | 1,510mm |
| Track (R) | 1,530mm | 1,475mm | 1,425mm | 1,569mm | 1,510mm |
| Fuel Tank | 55L | 52L | 45L | 55L | 55L |
| Power (hp) | 125hp | 104hp | 108hp | 142hp | 134hp |
| Torque (Nm) | 150Nm | 150Nm | 141Nm | 189Nm | 182Nm |
| kg/Nm | 9.48 | 8.3 | 7.94 | 8.27 | 8.65 |
The power figures above are quoted in horsepower, which has been converted from most of the “PS” measurements that Japanese companies use. As you can see the weight is now heavier, which would throw off all our previous calculations on the Exora’s power to weight ratio.
The Exora’s 125 horsepower has to pull 1422kg of weight now which means 11.376kg per horsepower, which is actually one of the better performing numbers among its competitors unfortunately the amount of weight that each Newton Meter has to pull is one of the worst. It’s the amount of torque and the torque curve that matters when it comes to pulling a lot of weight.
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Design
Design is subjective but I personally feel the Proton Exora is quite pleasant to the eyes. I don’t quite like the chrome strip at the rear but it doesn’t hamper the vehicle’s functions as an MPV. The brake lights are LEDs but the signal lamps use conventional bulbs. The radio uses a bee-sting antenna mounted at the front.
The M-Line model lacks foglamps, the chrome on the rear strip and the pieces of trim on the front grille, and it also lacks the black-out stickers on the B-pillar and C-pillar. I feel the Exora looks better with the blackout pillars (though when I did my own little survey one colleague thought the opposite was better and another was neutral about it) but it should be easy for you to place your own stickers.
Both the M-Line and H-Line models use the same 15 inch wheels. These are wrapped with either Goodyear Assurance or Silverstone Kruizer tyres in 195/65R15 size, apparently they are the same for both M-Line or H-Line and which tyres you get depends on luck as different batches will be fitted with either one.
New Proton Exora Platform
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The first sketch for the Exora has been in existence for a long time, even in the 90s. The styling was finally fixed sometime in August/September 2007. After that, it took another 18 months of development after the styling fix to reach mass production, which had been ready since March 2009. Production trial 1 had actually started end last year, while production trial 2 lasted the second half of February. Production started sometime mid-March until now.
The new Proton Exora sits on a platform that was developed by Proton engineers with the help of their engineering consultancy partner LG CNS. LG CNS also assisted Proton with the development of the Savvy platform, which was later revised to become the Saga platform.
It has a MacPherson strut layout at the front and a torsion beam at the rear, with the spare tyre stored underneath the vehicle body. It’s interesting to note that this chassis also has a multi-link variant ready. You know how the Wish had both a multi-link setup and a torsion beam version offered? Well, the Exora has the potential for that too. It will be easy to add a multi-link setup at the rear to make way for all-wheel drive in case it is needed in Eastern European countries or something.
In terms of ability to fit a wide range of engines, the Proton Exora’s platform was designed to take anything from a 1.3 liter inline-4 to a 60 degree V6 in its engine bay. An engine as big as a 2.5 liter V6 would be no problem for the chassis to fit, but for now the only engine that’s going to be fitted to it in production is the 1.6 liter Campro CPS.
The Campro CPS engine produces 125 horsepower (127 PS) at 6,500rpm and 150Nm of torque at 4,500rpm. The gear ratios are the same as the Waja CPS but the final drive has been modified from 4.406 in the auto and 4.312 in the manual to 4.625 for both the auto and manual. In the auto model, the Exora cruises at 2,400rpm for 80km/h and 3,000rpm for 110km/h (approximation from looking at the meter panel). It has been rated to consume 9.2 liters per 100km on the combined cycle and 7.2 liters at 90km/h constant. The following are the Exora’s gear ratios:
| A/T | M/T | |
| 1st | 2.842 | 3.583 |
| 2nd | 1.529 | 1.947 |
| 3rd | 1.000 | 1.379 |
| 4th | 0.712 | 1.03 |
| 5th | 0.767 | |
| Reverse | A/T | 3.363 |
| Final Drive | 4.625 | 4.625 |
Because this is their first ever MPV and does not carry over any existing large vehicle platform, Proton has had the luck of being able to develop a monocoque MPV in this segment without having the restrictions of modifying an existing car to do it.
Proton decided that the development process had to start from the inside out. This is why the MPV manages to be spacious without growing into a large sized behemoth. The seat, hip points, interior height and etc were all determined first, only then are the other parts of the chassis and body designed around it, including the exterior design of the car. The designers had to work within these restrictions and I must commend them on doing a great job in making the MPV look pleasant to the eyes.
Based on CAE data, the Proton Exora has a torsion rigidity of 16,683 Nm/degree based on lab tests, and a bending rigidity of 18,823 Nm/mm based on lab tests. Proton claims the Exora was designed to achieve a 4-star rating in Euro NCAP crash tests and it has passed an Euro NCAP equivalent test at a private testing facility in Spain. Actual Euro NCAP testing has not been done yet but as the test specs were the same the Exora should be able to gain a 4 star result in real Euro NCAP testing as well. But for now there is no official test yet so you won’t find the Exora on the Euro NCAP website.
For the first time in a Proton, the Proton Exora uses front impact sensors as part of the airbag activation system. Previously the airbags are only activated via data from an accelerometer. Here are two crash test videos for you to see.
Proton Exora Crash Test – 35km/h Front Crash Front View
Proton Exora Crash Test – 56km/h 40% Offset Side View
Proton Exora Crash Test – Roll-over
And here are two charts with the international crash tests that the Exora complies with. P0 is an early prototype and P1 is a later prototype that is similar to the production version, so that is why you see some tests that the P0 does not pass but the P1 passes later.
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Proton and LG engineers have added a few new features that while are common practice for car manufacturers these days, are new for Proton cars. First we’ll have a look at the Front End Module. It is essentially a single module for the front end of the car that is made of a combination of composite resin/high grade plastic and metal in certain areas to reinforce it. It serves as the front end structure as well as integrates the heat and fluid system mounts, bumper mounts and lighting system mounts.
The benefits for a front end module according to Proton are weight reduction (it weighs 5kg versus 6.5kg for a regular module), higher control of quality (single supplier), lower cost, ease of assembly (from 40 process down to 2 process), and provides a better finetuning ability for the crumple zone. It only uses 5 parts instead of 12 major parts of a conventional module.
Next is the hydroformed front subframe, which essentially carries the engine. Hydroforming is a process which shapes the front subframe using water pressure. Water pressure shapes tubes by expanding them from the inside in a closed forming die. It improves strength and rigidity, reduces weight (by 12% in this case), consolidates the stamping process, and most importantly involves much less welding points (eliminates weld flanges) for a stronger overall construction. Die costs are down 60%, product costs down 20% and weight down 30%.
Proton Exora Body Control Module
We’ve already covered the Body Control Module based on our findings during the prototype test drive a few weeks ago. The Body Control Module is actually supplied by Continental AG (Siemens VDO unit).
Here is a video I managed to record of Proton’s network training manager describing some of the safety and BCM features of the new Proton Exora.
VIDEO: Proton Exora BCM Features (Partial) Demonstration
- A battery saver for room lamps, luggage and key ring illumination. These turn off after 30 seconds to ensure they do not make your battery flat if for some reason they are left in a situation where they are on all the time.
- Follow-me-home headlamps stay on for a certain period of time to help light up your walkway when you park and want to enter your house.
- The battery level for the remote key is indicated on the car’s instrument panel briefly when you turn the ignition on. The remote key has a range of 20 meters.
- The remote control will not work if your front door is not closed. The vehicle will also remind you if you activate a remote command if the rear door is not closed.
- There is a door open indicator on the instrument panel that indicates exactly which door, engine bay hood or rear hatch is not closed.
- There is a door opening warning when you reach a speed of 7km/h if any doors are open.
- Tap feature for the signal indicator stalk. This is similiar to alot of modern cars – you just have to tap the indicator stalk (not press fully) for the signal to flash 3 times to indicate a lane change and stop automatically, no need to press fully to turn on and reach for it again to deactivate it.
- Dim-in and dim-out feature for the interior room lamps – Proton says this is better for the eyes at night and it also adds a certain touch of class. The interior room lamps turn off automatically after you lock the car, or they also stay on for 30 seconds and then fade out in 2.8 seconds. When you unlock the car, the room light fade-in in 3.4 seconds.
- Front and rear wiper washer drip wiping – automatically wipe to remove excess water. What happens is when you operate the front washer, it will wipe 4 times and then pause for 5 seconds and then wipe one more time, to remove all the excess water effectively. This is because some of the washer liquid from the top of the windscreen will slowly drip down after the initial wiping, so the last wipe completely removes the washer water.
- Programmable front wiper interval. This can be anything from 1 seconds to 25 seconds. The default is 4 seconds. This is how you program it – you put it into INT and then back to off. Then you wait for the duration you want and turn switch it to INT again. The time duration you waited will become the new interval, up to a max of 25 seconds.
- The rear wiper turns on automatically when you engage reverse gear if your front wipers are on.
- If in SLOW mode, the front wiper changes mode to INT mode when you bring the MPV to a complete stop, let’s say in a traffic jam in the rain.
- The remote unlocks the drivers door only if pushed once – probably push twice to unlock all doors. Apparently you are able to configure this to unlock all doors at once by default.
- There is an alarm activation history kept but I am not sure how to access it, perhaps only at the service center.
- The doors will lock automatically once you reach a speed of 20km/h.
- The doors will unlock automatically once you remove the key from the key barrel.
- All doors unlock automatically upon a crash via a signal coming from the airbag control unit.
- If you perform any sudden braking at speeds of at least 96km/h, the hazard lights will flash automatically.
M-Line and H-Line Differences
The basic features of the car itself is the same between the M-Line and H-Line. They are the same even down to the safety features (dual airbags and ABS), alloy wheel design, brake types (front disc rear drum), seat configuration ability, electric wing mirrors, interior trim and even the tyres. Proton has only kept the creature comforts and minor styling differences for the H-Line.
The Proton Exora H-Line adds cruise control, the LCD screen with DVD player, leather seats, and slightly different trim on the outside – chrome for the grille and rear, as well as blacked out B and C pillars using some convincing black stickers. It’s good to know that the Bluetooth hands-free and audio streaming functionality of the 2-DIN head unit has been retained in the M-Line. If you notice, the leather seats in the H-Line version have a combination material – there is a suede-like material at the sides, which according to Proton was intentionally left there so that the leather would be allowed to expand and contract in a certain way under the hot Malaysian climate and thus reduce the chances of them cracking.
There are still no ISOFIX points and there is only a lap belt for the middle seat in the second row instead of a full 3-point seatbelt. The seat and seatbelt anchorage points are said to be 30% better than regulation minimum requirements, and the steering wheel impact energy absorption is 35% better than regulation requirements.
Another feature of the H-Line is a touch screen portable GPS device which according to them uses an Atmel chipset. This is the same one as offered in the Persona SE. Locking speed was pretty fast. You can download new maps from the internet or at Proton Edar, and updates are free, but I didn’t manage to find out how many updates have there been so far and how frequent the updates are. I would have much preferred a Garmin-based solution.
The Exora’s Interior
The interior quality was typically Proton. There were some uneven gaps between the plastic parts of the dash but hopefully these will be ironed out as the assembly plant gets better at assembling the new model, same goes for the parts suppliers. The gap between the headlining and the front windscreen was quite alarming though, and apparently this was because of the need to wire the DVD player.
The plastics are not soft touch but the designers have picked textures in order to avoid that bare cheap plastic look. The textures were picked based on observations that the designers made while visiting the past few international motorshows. A total of 3 different types of plastic texture are used throughout the car. The upper dash and lower sections (glove box and below) of the dash have a different texture (Organic pattern) than the middle dash are which uses a pattern Proton calls “Orga-Geo”.
As previously mentioned the air conditioning was superb, thanks to the use of two blowers, one for the front and the other for the rear rows. There are air conditioning vents for all 3 rows, with the vents for the 2nd and 3rd row located above the windows. All three rows are comfortable, and a person of 182cm tall like me can fit into the third row nicely with my knee only barely touching the second row. Of course the second row has to be angled slightly more upright than usual for that to happen. Another point to consider is the third row is quite wide, two big sized guys can actually fit without their shoulders touching each other.
The second row and third row have backseat angle adjustment ability, so while you cannot slide them back and forth to vary space between the rows, if a compromise must be done it can be via the backrest angle. The second row will be able to sit more upright for the back row to have more legroom. The third row also varies in angle to create more luggage space in the rear. Speaking of luggage space, here is a video that Proton produced to train its salesmen on the luggage space of the Exora. Bear in mind what you see is with the third row angled rather straight, not the maximum lean angle.
Proton Exora – Luggage Space comparison with Avanza and Grand Livina
The H-Line models DVD player is a separate unit that is not integrated with the in-car entertainment system. It allows you to stream the audio from the DVD to the head unit installed up front via FM transmission, or the kids up back can actually plug in headphones to the DVD player via the two headphone jacks provided. If you want more I suppose you will have to buy headphone splitters.
A Short Drive Around Cyberjaya
We had another short drive around Cyberjaya where the media drive was held and this time I noticed that the Exora was a little more bouncy that usual. I asked the engineers whether there were any differences between the prototype specifications and the production car that we drove and they said yes, it is possible that the suspension was softer due to a wider distance of manufacturing tolerance especially during initial production. Our car also only had 5 people in it, and there might also have been tyre pressure issues.
Still, the Exora remained a pleasant vehicle to drive. It was comfortable and the excellent air conditioning continued to perform its duties well. The minor road deformities that you can see around are handled well by the suspension, but as I mentioned earlier the suspension felt a little softer so there was a little extra bounce than normal after negotiating speed bumps.
The Exora is a big comfortable box for its dimensions and would suit most of the requirements of the Malaysian MPV buyer. If you want to read more about how the Exora drives I suggest you check out my previous test drive story. We will try to get another Exora out ASAP for a proper real life test over a few days, perhaps some of you can join me on the ride?
Anyway here is a full high resolution gallery of the Exora, both inside and outside. Be back soon with even more on the Proton Exora, stay tuned! I am just really glad that finally Malaysians are able to buy a decently sized MPV for under RM70k, even if its just RM2 under RM70K!
Proton Exora 1.6L A/T M-Line Metallic – RM69,998.00
Proton Exora 1.6L A/T M-Line Solid – RM69,548.00
Proton Exora 1.6L A/T H-Line Metallic – RM75,998.00
Proton Exora 1.6L A/T H-Line Solid – RM75,548.00
VIDEO: Proton Exora 60 second TVC – English
VIDEO: Proton Exora 60 second TVC – Bahasa Melayu
April 15, 2009 @ 10:35 pm
i wait for this since 10 pm ,nice…
April 15, 2009 @ 10:37 pm
Nice!
April 15, 2009 @ 10:37 pm
sweet!
April 15, 2009 @ 10:37 pm
Kudos for proton. Their basic B-line will make other competitors headache with this pricing behavior.
April 15, 2009 @ 10:37 pm
wow
April 15, 2009 @ 10:37 pm
first!
nice car
April 15, 2009 @ 10:38 pm
Kudos. Make sure ya B-line below RM63k!
April 15, 2009 @ 10:38 pm
wow good
April 15, 2009 @ 10:38 pm
first i guess
nice mpv overall
April 15, 2009 @ 10:38 pm
yeah first!
April 15, 2009 @ 10:39 pm
1ST..THINK..
April 15, 2009 @ 10:39 pm
First! wow! not bad for the design and the price.But the name…should have a better name instead of Exora.Thanks Paul for the great info!
April 15, 2009 @ 10:40 pm
Yeah aku pertama bagi komen, memang menawan Exora ni
April 15, 2009 @ 10:40 pm
i’m first….
April 15, 2009 @ 10:40 pm
nice….
April 15, 2009 @ 10:40 pm
weee!!!! launch ceremony a bit boring.. DSZ saved the day.
April 15, 2009 @ 10:42 pm
Nice one Proton!! Keep up the good work!! We’ll look about the comments after people had start riding this ride… Good luck and again good work!!
April 15, 2009 @ 10:42 pm
1st….wow
April 15, 2009 @ 10:43 pm
Hi!! just watch the launching and it was great!! Awsome! Congratz to P1, personally there are some differences between this final product with previous teaser/spyshot etc ~ maybe it just me. The front bumper, the propotion of the tyre and the swipe of black colour around the side windows from front to the back ( like wish ) ~~ wow.. speechless
April 15, 2009 @ 10:43 pm
First……
April 15, 2009 @ 10:43 pm
nice….any body wanna buy my old mpv
April 15, 2009 @ 10:43 pm
Nice to see..nice to hold…
April 15, 2009 @ 10:44 pm
P1 exora finally unveiled.. bravo proton.!
April 15, 2009 @ 10:44 pm
Thumb Up to Proton!
April 15, 2009 @ 10:44 pm
can this mpv will compete with perodua mpv? i dont think so.
April 15, 2009 @ 10:44 pm
Well done Proton!!! Its a start.Overall its a good ,competitive product.
April 15, 2009 @ 10:45 pm
Congrate Proton , Well done !!!
April 15, 2009 @ 10:45 pm
BRAVO BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!
April 15, 2009 @ 10:45 pm
…the headlights from new jazz…the grill from usdm accord……
rear also from another MPV, but cant recall which model……
overall ugly. bad performance.
another model to potong malaysian citizens.
hopefully they potong enough off the lower class citizens and stop asking for goverment protection, so that all of us can finally own nice cars that we deserve.
April 15, 2009 @ 10:45 pm
Nice one from Proton..gonna sell like hot cakes!!
April 15, 2009 @ 10:45 pm
Nice MPV! 1st to comment!
April 15, 2009 @ 10:46 pm
Am I first…? Nice car!
April 15, 2009 @ 10:47 pm
first
April 15, 2009 @ 10:48 pm
Nice MPV, beautifully design. Congratulation Proton.
April 15, 2009 @ 10:48 pm
cant wait to test drive it.
April 15, 2009 @ 10:48 pm
Not bad! Well done, Proton!
April 15, 2009 @ 10:49 pm
That lady on Dato’ Zainal’s presentation was my college mate. Bangga giler wa…Hidup Engine!!!
April 15, 2009 @ 10:49 pm
hoyeahoyeah..congratz proton..such a great success
April 15, 2009 @ 10:49 pm
waa…dunno what to say..-.-”
April 15, 2009 @ 10:50 pm
I am the first to comments. Really nice. Good work Proton
April 15, 2009 @ 10:51 pm
impressive
pretty good features.proton is definitely improving.i’d get one
April 15, 2009 @ 10:51 pm
1st!!!
nice
April 15, 2009 @ 10:52 pm
me 1st..hehehe…nice mpv
April 15, 2009 @ 10:52 pm
1st comment.. amazing…
April 15, 2009 @ 10:53 pm
lol i like the teh tarik hook pic hahaha
April 15, 2009 @ 10:53 pm
BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO !!!! Proton Exora…. very 1st MPV of Malaysia
April 15, 2009 @ 10:54 pm
first…
April 15, 2009 @ 10:55 pm
wow..
thats alot of information there paul.
I wonder when i’ll read ‘em all
Great post.
And the Exora 1st impression is very well pleasant.
April 15, 2009 @ 10:55 pm
i m a first…………………………
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS for exora!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:04 pm
CONGRATS to all protonian .
Moga Exora akan melangkah jauh ke serata benua , membawa cita rakyat Malaysia .
April 15, 2009 @ 11:04 pm
Hahahahah…..
Nice car. I will buy one !
April 15, 2009 @ 11:04 pm
well done proton !!
thumbs up !!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:04 pm
Yup, everything seems perfect. But the achilles heel on this car is the 1.6L engine power/torque : weight ratio…
Why Proton dont want to take the 2.0L V6 found in Perdana & Chansellor to put on it and make it H-line? Since the engine bay can support until 2.5L V6, should be no problem right?!? Pricing can be adjusted, if price around RM80k for a 2.0L V6 (with extra safety features like VSC or TRC), 1.6L from RM70-75k i think this marketing strategy can work!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:05 pm
amazing!!!!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:05 pm
…nampak cantik dari hadapan tapi rekabentuk bahagian belakang agak kurang menarik..
ruang dalam yang luas tetapi rekabentuknya dengan ketinggian 1691mm menyebabkan ia nampak kurang sporty tidak seperti Toyota Wish maupun Naza Citra yang mempunyai ketinggian yang lebih rendah..
..keseluruhannya OK..
April 15, 2009 @ 11:05 pm
hoyeahoyeah..congratz protonians…cool MPV with no way of rebadgement of SETTE can beat em
April 15, 2009 @ 11:13 pm
The price is quite reasonable.
April 15, 2009 @ 11:13 pm
1st??
my dream car has arrive…
April 15, 2009 @ 11:14 pm
nice…gud job proton..bravo
April 15, 2009 @ 11:14 pm
Tahniah kepada PROTON….cuma bentuk depan agak agresif sikit…tapi lama – lama nampak okje. Anyway good job PROTON!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:15 pm
looks promising.will visit proton showroom soon
April 15, 2009 @ 11:16 pm
very nice design except for the tail…quite hideous~
i watched the launching at danga bay..
i am very proud of proton~!
good job!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:16 pm
interesting to see the possible variant to the basic platform. good effort from proton. at 69K it will kill avanza. P2 will have to come up with a compelling price for their upcoming mpv to compete
April 15, 2009 @ 11:16 pm
First to comment… Cool report and hope there will be more photos of this MPV coming up soon…
April 15, 2009 @ 11:18 pm
Hahaahahah
Nice car!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:20 pm
may be this is my 3rd car after having 3rd child
April 15, 2009 @ 11:21 pm
Kudos to Proton! You are taking us all to another level! Keep up the good work!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:22 pm
1stt!!..Nice…
April 15, 2009 @ 11:23 pm
Finally launched, will go to the showroom to see it!!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:24 pm
first! decent looking car
April 15, 2009 @ 11:24 pm
look good but duno the quality
April 15, 2009 @ 11:26 pm
a bit disappointed for the enginne and dash board
April 15, 2009 @ 11:26 pm
Nice car with nice price… wow!!!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:26 pm
best ever from proton……great!!!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:26 pm
wah bangga seh malaysia mampu keluarkan kereta cam noh…
as one of proton’s car owners…what all can say is EXCELLENT!!!!!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:27 pm
good job Proton !!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:28 pm
is there any comparison with chery eastar….seems like ….a bit DNA from Eastar ……well…..you all decide la….
April 15, 2009 @ 11:28 pm
Best cheap MPV ever! So convenient for big families who are moderately rich and poor. What a great MPV!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:29 pm
What a weird kinda photo, Teh tarik? Still not fully developed locally, another Korean product.
April 15, 2009 @ 11:29 pm
Bigger engine bay!? How about Perdana V6 engine or Campro CPS with turbo?
April 15, 2009 @ 11:35 pm
lol..there is way too many people think they are the first to comment.
April 15, 2009 @ 11:35 pm
hopefully there would be a 1.8 soon, price a little on the high side..should be below 60k…
April 15, 2009 @ 11:36 pm
If previously you think 1380KG was heavy. Think again. Its now 1422KG for M-Line and 1442KG for H-Line. To put into perspective, Grand Livina 1.6 only 1245KG.
April 15, 2009 @ 11:36 pm
not bad…but the grill same as persona..btw paul…new persona coming out ah?….means waja gonna phase out??
April 15, 2009 @ 11:36 pm
the design so so oni la…
look like the “body” too big and the “leg” tayar too small, tak padan.
Euro style design “maybe the casis is from euro?”
the spec is good but most pll 1st impression is “design”.
and the “design” is the key to attract pll to buy.
seem like proton did’t learn more from savvy and tiara.
April 15, 2009 @ 11:36 pm
I see the next proton perdana…….
April 15, 2009 @ 11:37 pm
What the heck with this “FIRST” thing? Are you guy so desperate to get attention?
Nice MPV tho..
April 15, 2009 @ 11:38 pm
design is simple yet still stylish. The thing that amaze me most is the BCM features. nevertheless I think proton is doing the great job.
April 15, 2009 @ 11:39 pm
semua nak jadi 1st haha!!
well overall ok for this mpv..
hope can sell outside from this region!!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:40 pm
I’m confused as to how you can all be “frist”.
Anyway, the car looks good. Hopefully they can keep the pricing low when they bring it to Thailand. Bye bye Avanza.
April 15, 2009 @ 11:41 pm
first…. y all want be first..
yes this my first comment in PT since i read this blog in 2005
April 15, 2009 @ 11:42 pm
Kudos to Proton for this Exora!
It sounds like it’s an excellent vehicle. Juz the torque of the engine is a disappoint (or maybe the gearbox’s sluggish if it’s the same unit in the Gen2 CPS)..
Kinda regret in getting my Gen2 now~
Maybe an upgrade in the next 5 years for me?
Will be checking it out tomoro @ COE since getting my car serviced there! ^^
April 15, 2009 @ 11:42 pm
bravo!! Proton. Baravo.. am I the first?
April 15, 2009 @ 11:43 pm
take a look at the passeneger car on the platform sharing picture. Perdana replacement model?? coool
April 15, 2009 @ 11:44 pm
wow..too worth spending time following for this exora article
..good job proton ..keep moving
April 15, 2009 @ 11:46 pm
There always will be a -ve respond in ANYTHING Proton do these days… but all i can say is, for a car maker that established less than 30 years… Exora is an achievement that i’m proud off!
Those whom complaining about (potential) lack of power from 1.6 Campro CPS… give Proton a chance. There will be an upgrade & update. That’s make a sense in a business term.
Those of you who kept on complaining, aware that Proton is business organization that provides more than 10,000 people jobs, right?
April 15, 2009 @ 11:47 pm
all nice but underpowered and fuel guzzler!!! I see many proton staff commenting…job well done!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:47 pm
“rakyat malaysia inginkan kenderaan yg mmpunyai performance like european cars, styling like japanese cars, dan harga malaysia.” -DSZ (during the launching presentation)
i think this mpv has full fill the requirements.
btw, i think the front grill has made proton founded their identity:]
April 15, 2009 @ 11:48 pm
nice MPV for family car, affortable, safety, more space, i wonder the FC ? can wait to test drive
April 15, 2009 @ 11:49 pm
Man, 1.4k hits in this site.
This exora threat is so crazy…
Lol.. im tired with the first thingy, first here first there very funny lor
Im also cant enter this site b4, server prob hehe my pc have fever lah
Congratulation to Proton, make sure no1 quality even with the cheapest price, hehe DSZ said Malaysian always want the cheapest and he also mention the famous p1 prob, power window plus we can c some vid ads lol really funny. PM also ketuk2 the Exora hahaha.
Proton Exora : Anda pasti terpegun.
April 15, 2009 @ 11:50 pm
correct me if I’m wrong….. the tag line should be “EXORA keriangan keluarga’..but since when it’s change to ‘EXORA you’ll be amazed”???
April 15, 2009 @ 11:51 pm
If previously you think 1380KG was heavy (Exora rumored weight). Think again. Its now 1422KG for M-Line and 1442KG for H-Line. To put into perspective, Grand Livina 1.6 only 1245KG. Hell, even Grand Livina 1.8 is only 1280KG.
April 15, 2009 @ 11:52 pm
nice detailed report. hopefully you can get a full euroNCAP report though. that would be a nice touch.
cant wait to go and get a test drive
is it just me or does the front pic kinda looks like the previous generation honda city
April 15, 2009 @ 11:52 pm
Somehow this is clearly a winner. The rear actually looked sexy with the lines. Else it will look like Innova. Now I have difficulty to decide on my next car change… DSZ totally kicked off a good show, with his aspirations I hope fellow Malaysian will support our product. Like DSZ mentioned earlier on, “Malaysians generally like European engine, Japanese design with Malaysian price” I think it’s more like China’s price. No car manufacturer succeeded at their first try, so do justice for our new baby, yah!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:52 pm
Proton MD is great during presentation…World Class like Steve Jobs hehehhe
So funny during the famous power windows problem video.
April 15, 2009 @ 11:52 pm
So many first commenter losers for this posts. Get a life. I think this mpv is a great accomplishment and hopefully the production version meets expectations. With this price, the cherry mpv would have a harder time selling. Same goes to avanza as well.
April 15, 2009 @ 11:52 pm
Nice looking gear!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:53 pm
stylish, i like.
April 15, 2009 @ 11:53 pm
Being a 3 times Proton car owner….l can see it’s the best car released from Proton. Btw I had just grab a Wish last november…..I will wait for the 2nd Exora production…hmm maybe with an improve 2.0 litre version will move 7 pax with ease. Salute to the Malaysian!
April 15, 2009 @ 11:53 pm
wow.. the only thread with the most “i`m first” thing ~ this exora really give an impact
April 15, 2009 @ 11:54 pm
Car is nice, but when u go 2 service center, Alamak!!! Poor response and service!!!!! Damn it…..
April 15, 2009 @ 11:56 pm
Campro is ultimate drinking machine! Furthermore,1.6L pulling 1,422kg body.
April 15, 2009 @ 11:57 pm
[quote comment="230136"]correct me if I’m wrong….. the tag line should be “EXORA keriangan keluarga’..but since when it’s change to ‘EXORA you’ll be amazed”???[/quote]
yeah me too haha..
what’s up with that?
April 15, 2009 @ 11:58 pm
Didn’t like the rear lamp, ugly.( not my taste ) May be Exora 2 they can change the rear lamp. Overall it’s ok. Good job Proton. Still waiting for a manual version.( for sure RM4000 less, should be RM 65000)
April 15, 2009 @ 11:58 pm
for the first mpv.. that is great job.. syabas proton..
April 15, 2009 @ 11:59 pm
This is the best scoop, ever, Paul – right on the dot upon launch. But are you sure there’s gonna be MT models? Both M- and H-lines only offer AT. Even Proton’s online booking only offer 4 AT choices.
April 15, 2009 @ 11:59 pm
[quote comment="230141"]Proton MD is great during presentation…World Class like Steve Jobs hehehhe
So funny during the famous power windows problem video.[/quote]
Agree. He is A LOT better than Nazmi (current chairman) when he was the MD.
April 15, 2009 @ 11:59 pm
[quote comment="230141"]Proton MD is great during presentation…World Class like Steve Jobs hehehhe
So funny during the famous power windows problem video.[/quote]
yeah he was great! I’m impressed
April 16, 2009 @ 12:01 am
I dun think exora will beat produo mpv[base on prvios produo mpv thread]..
just like how savvy beat myvi..it fail..no matter how great their marketing have done. they seem like forgot the product talk for themself.
and i think the satrio neo are the best product since the proton wira era..
the rest are so so only.
proton should look forward ahead from competitor and the next green car will be proton good move. but need to be price competitive la if wanna be success.
April 16, 2009 @ 12:01 am
at least I can see 10-15 ppl claimed they’re the first person to post a comment. immaturity to the max.
neway, kudos to proton.
April 16, 2009 @ 12:01 am
I LIKE THE HOOK FOR THE “TEH TARIK” MALAYSIA ADER KELASS MAN!! HEHEHEH
April 16, 2009 @ 12:03 am
good job proton.
April 16, 2009 @ 12:05 am
from the front look , its like a sporty car, a sedan…proton next car should come like this with a futuristic and appealing design like honda..
anyway, this exora is surly good in many ways…hope proton will become a better car manufacturer and able to beat the others…hate to read ugly remarks and comments from Jeremy Clarkson and Top Gear website…
April 16, 2009 @ 12:06 am
Sure, a lot of complain about underpower. Better wait for Perodua MPV or engine upgrade to 1.8 first.
April 16, 2009 @ 12:06 am
went to the showroom…i had to see the butt myself. i was initially put off by the rear design surfaced on the net but…actually in flesh it didnt look that bad. indeed this mpv is humongous it felt really big. the head clearance is impressive
i have nothing but praise for this mpv but as someone rightly put, it Achilles heel is indeed the 1.6 engine and with official kerb weight of over1400 i’m skeptical of it pulling power i told the sa about my concern an rewarded with a test drive up bukit langat in 5 days time…
April 16, 2009 @ 12:08 am
if u guys notice, the rear’s wiper is not centered. kinda ugly in my point of view.
April 16, 2009 @ 12:08 am
like the last picture..teh tarik tu penting woo..
April 16, 2009 @ 12:09 am
Great stuff there Paul..very comprehensive and informative review on Exora….Kudos
April 16, 2009 @ 12:10 am
Yeah right… the only reason people buy this MPV is because the other brands are having their taxes cruelly high. I wonder if this were a fair market, I bet any Proton will bungkus. And Proton is talking about helping their own Malaysians…
April 16, 2009 @ 12:11 am
soo bigg.. yet so balance.. good2 proton.
April 16, 2009 @ 12:11 am
nice mpv!!!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:11 am
Tahniah PROTON!! as malaysian we should be proud of it!!
those yg keep complaining n condeming, sure u all not really truely malaysian…better all of u guys perform new team, n make ur own car, kasi tgk sket hasil nye mcm mane…
April 16, 2009 @ 12:11 am
lol the demo on the luggage space is funny, it looks like the size of my naza ria space. with the seat upright of course..
its the same size as annova, that is a big car..
if people can drive a 1.3 avanza, 1.6 exora should be no prob
heck even perodua mpv will be powered by a 1.5
this is perfect for normal people and the general public, the rest can go suck an egg or get an alphard.
April 16, 2009 @ 12:13 am
whats the fuel consumption compared to its competitors?
funny, so many ppl claimed to be 1st lolz
April 16, 2009 @ 12:16 am
whoa, pretty impresseddd!!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:17 am
[quote comment="230166"]Yeah right… the only reason people buy this MPV is because the other brands are having their taxes cruelly high. I wonder if this were a fair market, I bet any Proton will bungkus. And Proton is talking about helping their own Malaysians…[/quote]
I agree with you Steve, if only Honda Stream had no tax that high…
April 16, 2009 @ 12:17 am
Look better than i think…
April 16, 2009 @ 12:18 am
Korang komen berebut cakap 1st tengok..aku lg le 1st tengok, kat supernau pukul 8pm dah di pamerkan untuk umum..
April 16, 2009 @ 12:18 am
TAHNIAH PROTON. YOUR NEW BABY REALLY NICE. MALAYSIA FIRST MPV. VERY PROUD OF IT…..nice to see tun mahathir during launching.
April 16, 2009 @ 12:19 am
the car alarm system so complicated…make me pening…need a long time to used to it…
April 16, 2009 @ 12:20 am
[quote comment="230163"]if u guys notice, the rear’s wiper is not centered. kinda ugly in my point of view.[/quote]
Agree with you. Placing it like on the VW Golf is more like it.
April 16, 2009 @ 12:20 am
i saw sat and oogled our new MPV, i am really glad that Proton finally
done us proud. this is really a good product and i see than it has a certain presence.
anyway really glad that malaysians will get a good bargain.
now we set our sights on a 1.8 Mivec -Wajalution!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:21 am
SECOND!
Front headlamps looks like old Accord & front bumper looks so Civic. Copy here, copy there! Overall still alright BUT what about power?? Enuf??
April 16, 2009 @ 12:22 am
Hoohoo,if I thought the prototype was fugly,this is just horrendous.
Goodluck to Proton in these trying times!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:22 am
[quote comment="230170"]lol the demo on the luggage space is funny, it looks like the size of my naza ria space. with the seat upright of course..
its the same size as annova, that is a big car..
if people can drive a 1.3 avanza, 1.6 exora should be no prob
heck even perodua mpv will be powered by a 1.5
this is perfect for normal people and the general public, the rest can go suck an egg or get an alphard.[/quote]
Have you compared the weight?
April 16, 2009 @ 12:26 am
Good Job to you Proton Team!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:26 am
very nice ..thank
April 16, 2009 @ 12:26 am
wats wif all these 1st to comment ?
very nice MPV , but dat packet of drink spoil the broucher…
make it look so cheap
April 16, 2009 @ 12:27 am
like it……
can wait 2 go 2 the showroom….
April 16, 2009 @ 12:27 am
guys… at the end of the show.. there’s a black exora with bodykit.. anyone saw it?
April 16, 2009 @ 12:28 am
Congatulations Proton! Good effort!
With nice exterior design, comfortable tailored interior, combined with BCM which provide solution on simple & small thing and also uncompromize safety even with low price.
Worth to buy, value for money! Two thumbs up for this Malaysian MPV!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:29 am
damn, the car is beautiful even tho it came out late hehehe, Great work Proton!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:33 am
good presentation…welcome EXORA……dont forget to booked
April 16, 2009 @ 12:34 am
WOW! Congratulations to Proton for their achievement!! Nice new features really worth it for RM70k..
Did anyone notice the SECOND LAST PICTURE FROM BOTTOM? It showed a hook to hook bagged teh-tariks. THAT’S THE MALAYSIAN WAY!!! XD
That’s something us Malaysians can be proud of!!!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:37 am
Happy birthday, Exora! Best wishes for Proton.
April 16, 2009 @ 12:39 am
This forum looks bombarded with proton marketing ppl???
April 16, 2009 @ 12:40 am
nice review!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:45 am
Now wait for P2 MPV….overall not bad, just the engine, 1.6 not enuf for 1400kg++ car lar… unless it has turbo/kompressor
April 16, 2009 @ 12:45 am
I love the cruise control knob……normally found in premium model only.
The teh tarek hook makes it more Malaysian……..
How about a double deck MPV on the next drawing board…..pls put in your comment.
April 16, 2009 @ 12:46 am
love the seats n steering wheel!
haizzz, wish those seats can fit in my satria..
April 16, 2009 @ 12:47 am
hope it will spawn to new breed taxi with better security to driver and comfort to passenger and more room to passenger luggage …
cheers
April 16, 2009 @ 12:49 am
referring to Chips from motortrader, Proton spend RM450 million for R&D and No less than 32 vehicles were crashed, nine of them cost a million ringgit each while the other 23 cost between RM200,000 and RM500,000 each.
So buyer cuma perlu bayar RM70 K utk EXora ni rasanya amat berbaloilah.
April 16, 2009 @ 12:50 am
must buy
April 16, 2009 @ 12:50 am
Nice car with superb design,bravo job from Proton & Sheikh Zainal team this time,congrats!!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:50 am
Very good looking! anterior also exterior and i’am sure this will be a great model by proton! i hope proton will produce MPV with 1.8L or 2.0L next year. Syabas Proton. I proud to buy Malaysian product!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:51 am
Congratz to Proton.
Either Exora is better or worse than other competitors it dont bother me so much bcoz i feel proud that malaysian can built their own MPV. It is not difficult like rocket science but still not a lot of hard work and know how.
By the way, i hope Proton already counter measure their quality issues which i think more important than their wide space and powerful CPS.
Anyway, congratz!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:51 am
good job proton…!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:52 am
Congratz to Proton.
Either Exora is better or worse than other competitors it dont bother me so much bcoz i feel proud that malaysian can built their own MPV. It is not difficult like rocket science but still need a lot of hard work and know how.
By the way, i hope Proton already counter measure their quality issues which i think more important than their wide space and powerful CPS.
Can’t wait to ride Exora.
Anyway, congratz!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:54 am
say goodbye to grand livina, avanza.
those two models will defintely be affected by this newcomer.
really surprising, the price and stuff offered.
but quality wise, lets see how it holds up.
April 16, 2009 @ 12:55 am
[quote comment="230141"]Proton MD is great during presentation…World Class like Steve Jobs hehehhe
So funny during the famous power windows problem video.[/quote]
HAHAHA!! I noticed even Najib fell asleep during Datuk Nadzmi’s speech lol!! But when it’s DSZ’s turn, I salute him man!! He knows his stuff well, he knows how to show appreciation for the people behind the making of Exora, he talks abt how there was once proton is associated more with p/w problem than anything else, excellent English spoken fast, clear n precise. He definitely knows how to make a grand apprearance. Absolutely brilliant. All hail DSZ!! All hail Proton!! All hail Exora!!
I lol-ed when he talked abt Msians like to complaint etc, definitely sounds familiar in this blog, right, fellow TJCC-ers?
Most importantly, he made a very big reference to Chips Yap n his ‘teh tarik’ hook, ahahaha!! At last, Proton have teh tarik/char kuey teow hook!! HOOORAYY!!!!!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:56 am
all p2 salesman die already..
April 16, 2009 @ 12:56 am
Alhamdulillah… finally the new baby born officially.
Salam..
April 16, 2009 @ 12:58 am
can sumone please explain to me what is final drive ratio? i undrstand the other gear ratios, but not the final drive. thanx
April 16, 2009 @ 1:09 am
Dont compare with avanza.
i’m totally hate it..
avanza is nothing…
bravo proton.
I will booked it tomorrow.
April 16, 2009 @ 1:12 am
Yeah ziewa.. I also saw it at the end of the show. A black coloured Exora with bodykit and also may be 16″ or 17″ rims fitted. The rims lokks different from H line and M line.
Salam..
April 16, 2009 @ 1:14 am
oh thank god. the knobs at the center console is placed for normal human usage!
April 16, 2009 @ 1:17 am
errmmm 75k,wirh 1.6 campro cps,better smash for grandlivina or cherry 2.4 maybe citra rondo 1.8….but then congratulation malaysian people
April 16, 2009 @ 1:23 am
I agreed with him..
Malaysian always asking for this only when come to cars..
European tech, Japanese style, Cheaper price..
hahahaha..
The presentation by the CEO was great eventhough ada tersekat-sekat..
weee….
April 16, 2009 @ 1:23 am
great effort!
April 16, 2009 @ 1:26 am
the third row seats are completely useless.
April 16, 2009 @ 1:26 am
[quote comment="230166"]Yeah right… the only reason people buy this MPV is because the other brands are having their taxes cruelly high. I wonder if this were a fair market, I bet any Proton will bungkus. And Proton is talking about helping their own Malaysians…[/quote]
there’s nothing we can do about the taxes..
god damn u guys have thick skull
April 16, 2009 @ 1:28 am
This one doesn’t impress me, seriously..just another crappy model from Protong deemed god send by gullible Malaysian public! Save all your ahhhs and oohhs to the day when IT really deliver on world class product.
April 16, 2009 @ 1:31 am
i’ve never seen anyhting as ugly as this. Please stop buying cars like this. its awful.
April 16, 2009 @ 1:49 am
Dear Paul? i just come back from Proton showroom(around 12am) the Exora really built in good quality and can fit 7 adult easily.
But i don’t agree the title for this article Proton Exora: Malaysian’s First MPV.
Everyone know that the Malaysian’s First MPV is Proton Juara, i think you need to study before you post the title.
April 16, 2009 @ 2:02 am
gud luck proton
thank you basher… the more you all bash the more improvement from proton.
in this economy crisis, we hope proton can do well for local market and export market.
we can rule the macro and micro economy. Pitty on Singapore now, their economy defisit to 9%. great depresion now. i hope Proton will more succeed as the our money will circulate among us. we shud reduce buying imported cars so that we will not suffer a great depresion like our neihbour do.
April 16, 2009 @ 2:02 am
close shop better !
April 16, 2009 @ 2:09 am
Liang: FYI the Juara is a Mitsubishi van.
April 16, 2009 @ 2:12 am
Is it coincidental that the popular new cars from Proton (maybe Pesona but definitely the new Saga and Exora) all were designed and released after Tengku Mahaleel’s departure from the company? Was TM really that bad ie. not listening to buying public? It seems as if Proton today is listening to what their customers want, hence the decent cars that they make today.
My wish for Proton
- get rid of crony companies and improve QC
- tie up with another automotive company and grow outside Malaysia
April 16, 2009 @ 2:13 am
Ha ha ha nak tergelak baca komen I’m first, I’m second. Isk Ishk standard budak darjah 1 jer.
Anystupidcommentbyfetusway, Congratulations to Proton! Nice presentations and good song choice too. Good looking MPV, but too bad it’s quite heavy to match it’s power.
So, bagilah peluang kepada guinea-guinea pig menjadi bahan test dahulu kepada masalah-masalah yang bakal dihadapi sehinggalah ianya menjadi ok.
Good luck.
April 16, 2009 @ 2:29 am
anyone snap any pics of Exora Prime? do share with us..
April 16, 2009 @ 2:31 am
Nice one proton… Looking forward to hear a more powerful engine for this car… I’m going to the nearest showroom to see the car tomorrow… Hopefully can test drive it..
April 16, 2009 @ 2:32 am
Very very nice design for MPV with that price. I think its very affordable. For those who want to wait for for P2 MPV, just forget it. The P2 MPV will be high in price (remember P2 Nautica 1.5L, its a failure) between rm80-95k with cramp space on the 3rd row and very small luggage area. This exora is very practical as a family mover. Good job proton. Go for more better products with Malaysian price. Your new tag proton, Proton… Good product at Malaysian price. LOL.
April 16, 2009 @ 2:41 am
[quote comment="230245"]Dear Paul? i just come back from Proton showroom(around 12am) the Exora really built in good quality and can fit 7 adult easily.
But i don’t agree the title for this article Proton Exora: Malaysian’s First MPV.
Everyone know that the Malaysian’s First MPV is Proton Juara, i think you need to study before you post the title.[/quote]
the juara was a commercial vehicle….much like the rusa(by p2)it’s not classified as an mpv.
April 16, 2009 @ 2:47 am
[quote comment="230254"]Is it coincidental that the popular new cars from Proton (maybe Pesona but definitely the new Saga and Exora) all were designed and released after Tengku Mahaleel’s departure from the company? Was TM really that bad ie. not listening to buying public? It seems as if Proton today is listening to what their customers want, hence the decent cars that they make today.
My wish for Proton
- get rid of crony companies and improve QC
- tie up with another automotive company and grow outside Malaysia[/quote]hey’its unfair to come up with such a statement….mahaleel single handedly transformed proton form a ‘tukang tukar badge’ like p2 into a full fledge automaker..he made the right step by funding for RnD…the mpv project was started during his era…so did many other projects…such as the gen2…WAJA…even the persona prototype was out during TM’s era…
April 16, 2009 @ 2:54 am
the shape is still not growing on me yet.. looks p2-ish..
but then i’m very proud of it..
the pic of that teh tarik really cracks me up at 3am in the morning .. yeah.
April 16, 2009 @ 2:57 am
i’ll have a rondo instead
April 16, 2009 @ 3:03 am
Just like DSZ and others has said……..rather than “cakap lebat”, Better those who complained about underpower thingy to TEST DRIVE that mpv itself and compare it with its rival.
Selain dari power to weight ratio
Performance kete ni combination of all parts;
Kalo kete tu power tp berat = Lembab
Kalo kete tu x berapa kuat, tp tune kat gearing and weight rendah = optimized performance.
But i do believe that this mpv is optimized to the best interest of the general public.
just my few cents.
April 16, 2009 @ 3:13 am
From themalaysianinsider:
“Malaysians want European technology, Japanese design but Malaysian prices,” Syed Zainal quipped.
This is really the malaysian mentallity! Thank you for noticing it. And good luck achieving all 3. This shows SZ knows what people want and not just go about building stuff people don’t need.
BTW, people still want a 2.0L engine in the exora!
April 16, 2009 @ 3:39 am
can the mpv moves (crawls) after fully loaded at final weight of 2 tons? I believe the engine is still running with timing belt
April 16, 2009 @ 5:06 am
If the test drive/FC is okay, then easier for Proton to move forward to ASEAN market first (Indonesia, Vietnam, the Philippines), then Taiwan, South Africa, Egypt or even India.
But, again Proton inevitably need more potent engine to address certain markets. For such amenities throw in Exora, this mpv pretty good for a fleet operator.
April 16, 2009 @ 5:06 am
Exora come with ABS with EBD + Back up EBD (BEBD) ?? Brake – Front – Ventilated Disk / Rear – Drum??
Paul Please advise.
Thank you.
April 16, 2009 @ 5:34 am
‘Tuan, aku ada di sini!’…hahaha, so funny when the presenter mentioned it. But why the horn doesn’t suit the car, I mean the sound. It’s like a hunk with a boy voice. Maybe it’s because of the noise pollution thingy, so proton makes the horn sounds softly?
April 16, 2009 @ 5:40 am
congratulation proton!!!
April 16, 2009 @ 5:42 am
Feel like crying…why? Got my 114K Honda Civic about a month ago…wish I can turn back time…and just get this H Line Proton MPV…much cheaper, look handsome and with “playground” for my kids…Congrat Proton…
April 16, 2009 @ 5:46 am
Congrat. proton 4 the lunching this Lady Exora….. im proud 2 u proton,
i think i knew why proton not lunch the manual 4 this exora hehe…..it all about marketing hehe !
p/s: if u giv a chance to choose to buy this Lady Exora or upcoming produa MPV which 1 u choose…..with same price tag plus it manual hehe??????
April 16, 2009 @ 5:49 am
Long live Proton!!!
Very nice MPV!!
Malaysian MPV from Malaysian for Malaysian, EXORA!!
April 16, 2009 @ 5:52 am
good effort proton, keep it up!
cheers!
April 16, 2009 @ 6:24 am
Paul could you do me a favor? If you could put pictures that uneven gap between plastic parts. As I’m not in bolehland to see it myself. Thanks!
Nice comprehensive reviews btw.
April 16, 2009 @ 6:31 am
Very creative n innovative. Malaysian taste. Value for money. Malaysian MPV. I ve 3 cars but i ll consider to ve exora. I am confident this MPV sure can sell here and abroad. Congrat P1!
April 16, 2009 @ 6:41 am
Excellent job by PROTON!!
its fee great to see a Malaysian MPV.
and very proud to say that my fiancee is one of the hardworking proton team memer…
April 16, 2009 @ 7:19 am
nothing to shout ,,,,! average and seems cincai in certain area..
RM 70,000 is expensive , will trap the poor and low end middle class into trouble – in debt !!
beware .. with trouble 1.6 waja engine
April 16, 2009 @ 7:38 am
mpv terbaik….harga terbaik..tahniah proton.
April 16, 2009 @ 7:48 am
proton products always problem , better wait for imported model from produa….sure excellent like myvi
April 16, 2009 @ 7:49 am
produa MPV based on toyota , sure quality one maaa like myvii
April 16, 2009 @ 7:56 am
dont complain bout taxes…
itu cara kita nak jaga produk kita,
itu cara kita nak jaga ekonomi kita utk jangka masa panjang,
kalau semua org mampu beli honda, toyota n bla bla…ke mana circulation duit kita? jgn compare strategi malaysia dgn negara maju…
See..tengah ekonomi gawat pun kita mampu launch malaysian’s MPV,
rakyat malaysia masih mampu beli keta…
while rakyat negara maju tgh semput2 kena buang keje…
I LOVE MALAYSIA..
CONGRAT PROTON!
April 16, 2009 @ 8:05 am
So the hype and the waiting have ended. it’s finally here. There’s some interesting fact here i like to share with you especially what was mention during the launch.
The Exora name:-
1. The winner come with a tag line of ‘keriangan Keluarga’ so where is it? The tagline now is ‘Anda pasti tergezut’ (Terpegun actually.
2. Those at TV1 pronounce it as Accsora instead of Exora (something sound like exhaust). Hmm… Wrong pronouncation or Bahasa Baku?
The MD:-
1. Wow, the presentation look like a launch for I-Pod. kudos to this. the way he present he really know what it is all about. this mean he follow through all the design to manufacturing process.
2. For the first time the ‘behind the curtain’ people have their say. All the team members involved. this is good. We can also see Azlano.
3. He has been in proton for 3 years, and it is translated into 3 new best selling model. Thank god his contract extended.
4. The video from the launch suggest proton done an extensive research and market survey. this is good. Even the infamous power window failure in Proton’s car synically put into their mind. good job.
5. It’s an international Product. Another good point.
6. They come with the final product in 18 months. Wow. A lot of savings here just never jeopardise safety aspects.
7. Proton slowly has the old face but with Toyota/Perodua heart in it. Why? Syed Zainal said they do extensive market survey and research. They come out with the right product for the right market.
The price:-
1. It’s competitive. I hope it will long last. I wonder when will Toyota and Nissan cut their MPV’s price soon.
2. The competitive price also mean Waja will be defunct sooner than we think.
Kudos to them. Just make sure not to be arrogant after this just like before. Just like what Najib said, failure is not an option for proton. Still, wait in coming 2 years these 1st batch will be recalled.
Even big companies do this.
April 16, 2009 @ 8:09 am
in summary…it’s a POOR MAN MPV
April 16, 2009 @ 8:20 am
[quote comment="230235"]I agreed with him..
Malaysian always asking for this only when come to cars..
European tech, Japanese style, Cheaper price..
hahahaha..
The presentation by the CEO was great eventhough ada tersekat-sekat..
weee….[/quote]
Yeah, this one got me laughing..Malaysian Price! Lol
April 16, 2009 @ 8:25 am
[quote comment="230309"]Congrat. proton 4 the lunching this Lady Exora….. im proud 2 u proton,
i think i knew why proton not lunch the manual 4 this exora hehe…..it all about marketing hehe !
p/s: if u giv a chance to choose to buy this Lady Exora or upcoming produa MPV which 1 u choose…..with same price tag plus it manual hehe??????[/quote]
still have to wait that P2 mpv, but from this first look at exora, can i expect better looking local-brand MPV?
April 16, 2009 @ 8:25 am
[quote comment="230261"][quote comment="230245"]Dear Paul? i just come back from Proton showroom(around 12am) the Exora really built in good quality and can fit 7 adult easily.
But i don’t agree the title for this article Proton Exora: Malaysian’s First MPV.
Everyone know that the Malaysian’s First MPV is Proton Juara, i think you need to study before you post the title.[/quote]
the juara was a commercial vehicle….much like the rusa(by p2)it’s not classified as an mpv.[/quote]
The Juara is a rebadge of the Mitsu Town Box. But Exora is design and Manufactured by Proton/ Malaysians. Proud to be Malaysian.
April 16, 2009 @ 8:29 am
Aduh, aduh , aduh BAGUS BANGAT PROTON kapan mau sampai keBogor Pak?
April 16, 2009 @ 8:39 am
I would like to say …TAHNIAH ….
Soon I’m looking for this MPV after I settle down my finance crisis
Guys, don’t wait ….let’s go to PROTON showroom today …be a witness and start put your Downpayment ….
Congratulation PROTON
April 16, 2009 @ 8:39 am
how about the fuel consumption? comment plz
April 16, 2009 @ 8:40 am
[quote comment="230166"]Yeah right… the only reason people buy this MPV is because the other brands are having their taxes cruelly high. I wonder if this were a fair market, I bet any Proton will bungkus. And Proton is talking about helping their own Malaysians…[/quote]
steve, u really think if proton ceased to exist you will get a new honda stream at RM30k OTR in this country? wake up dude! they will tax u regardless there is proton or not!
and i wonder why ppl complain its a 1.6? its 125hp, thats good enough for me. why go for 2.0 which suck up your petrol, pay more road tax and pay more for the car just for an increase of 10-20hp? malaysians want a practical car. if u want power, dont get an MPV. get ferrari instead.
April 16, 2009 @ 8:41 am
big CONGRATULATION to DSZ and P1 team!!!!
April 16, 2009 @ 8:47 am
Thanks Paul for your brilliant info about Exora.
April 16, 2009 @ 8:48 am
anyone who own avanza 1.5…
have anythiing to say??
April 16, 2009 @ 8:49 am
Do you know what is power/torque : weight ratio?
Math calculation is always right, if it is underpower. The FC would not be great also.. Have u heard before that 1.6L Wira FC is better than 1.5L/1.3L wira? Coz it is also due to the power/torque : weight ratio… Proton MPV need at least a turbo 1.6L engine or a 2.0L to move it, from my personal view…
April 16, 2009 @ 8:51 am
Well done proton,something to be proud as a Malaysian.Affordable and elegance,has it’s own style and another challenge for other international models.
Keep it up.Malaysia Boleh!!!!
April 16, 2009 @ 8:52 am
hahaha. the teh tarik ikat tepi hook is class. well done proton on the first mpv.
April 16, 2009 @ 8:56 am
Nice MPV
April 16, 2009 @ 9:00 am
V6 us nice but wouldn’t be economical… (fuel wise) after petrol naik, car value will crash..
April 16, 2009 @ 9:12 am
wow… tapi macam mitsubishi grandis laa pulak..
April 16, 2009 @ 9:32 am
aku tak akan tertipu dgn proton lagi…hahahah tarak kualiti
April 16, 2009 @ 9:34 am
[quote comment="230061"]…the headlights from new jazz…the grill from usdm accord……
rear also from another MPV, but cant recall which model……
overall ugly. bad performance.
another model to potong malaysian citizens.
hopefully they potong enough off the lower class citizens and stop asking for goverment protection, so that all of us can finally own nice cars that we deserve.[/quote]
This is the kind of people who only knows how to ‘condem’ people!
If you are a Malaysian, then u should be ashamed of yourself!!
If we don’t support ourself, who do you think would??!
‘potong’ ‘potong’ ‘potong’
‘potong’ your dick and feed it to the dog la like that!!! Even the dog wouldn’t want it! Haha!!
April 16, 2009 @ 9:34 am
persona saya belum sampai dua tahun dah mula ada problem..so i hope exora tak macam tu..one more thing bila complaint, ayat power yang keluar “biasa le
encik, proton”…anyway tahniah proton..
April 16, 2009 @ 9:48 am
Lowering tax for foreign cars will help malaysians? Help what? Help YOU to buy cheap?
We have been too self-centered for so long. Want to know what actually helping malaysians? buy own products helps local business creation helps local skill/tech development helps domestic job creation helps more money circulated domestically helps growth consumer industry helps …… and so forth. Lu pikir la sendiri.
Do you think buying foreigns will have the full chain like above? Do you think money won’t flow out of the country and enrich all those japanese, koreans, indons and mat sallehs if we buy kias, hondas, avanzas and the like?
That’s why foreign co are taxed heavily simply the protect the abundant derivative opportunities of the locals. Any wise leader will think of this.
Get wise. Get real.
April 16, 2009 @ 9:49 am
i really like its meter display.
Wow! there are many place to put your belonging…
What i really like is this statement “Proton claims the Exora was designed to achieve a 4-star rating in Euro NCAP crash tests and it has passed an Euro NCAP equivalent test at a private testing facility in Spain. Actual Euro NCAP testing has not been done yet but as the test specs were the same the Exora should be able to gain a 4 star result in real Euro NCAP testing as well”
I like a statement which is clear and honest.
April 16, 2009 @ 9:53 am
With the torque of 150Nm, I do not think Exora has power to move 1,422kg body. Even I also feel that 1.6 Grand Livina is abit under power with 4 or 5 people in the car.
April 16, 2009 @ 9:53 am
Just good OOL design. Overall design wise, its 5 to 10 yrs old oready!!!
April 16, 2009 @ 9:53 am
What da’ heck with this FIRST thing?!! Bloody so yesterday…get a life and don’t waste ppl’s time scrolling reading that silly FIRST thing!!!!
Good job Proton! It may not be a great MPV but a very well decent effort by all of you. Love the teh tarik hook at the front, the vacuum socket at the rear, the top dvd player with usb connector, the GPS system, the TNG personal slot…oh ya, let’s not forget…the importance of glove box (
hehehe)! Still, agree with the rest that this Exora archilles heel is it’s weight and the torque thats got a hard time doing it’s job! Oh ya, the steering looks need to be improve…still thinks it’s ugly but better than previous thou…since most of the time your hand are the one that’s gonna stick to it the whole time. Yeah, I’m heading to Proton showroom this weekend….cheers everyone!
April 16, 2009 @ 9:53 am
Looks like Toyota Wish gaining some weight after a few years.
April 16, 2009 @ 9:57 am
i,m the first….cool stuff and bravo for those 250 engineers…
April 16, 2009 @ 10:04 am
Comparing exora with others may not bring out the best in exora.ask najib to use it as his official car.why use others when proton can be the best.
April 16, 2009 @ 10:05 am
This car is underpower. avanza 1.5 is better deal.
April 16, 2009 @ 10:19 am
why ooo why there’s no manual??…better performance with manual…and the engine at least 1.8…1.6 cps wayyyyyy underpower
April 16, 2009 @ 10:22 am
Great job to Proton for continue evaluating… this elementary model price would help lots of Malaysian that can not afford multiple vehicles at home, an opportunity to have a proper size MPV.
April 16, 2009 @ 10:23 am
I like it. Paul, banding dengan gaya antara old Stream & Wish, mana yang lebih bagus. Ciri yang disediakan aku tengok lebih bagus sebab ianya lebih bercirikan malaysia. Betul gak cakap DSZ yang Malaysian nak yang macam Eropah, bentuk macam Jepun tapi nak harga murah (Malaysian). Teh Tarik/Char kuey teow Hook tu yang menarik. Sebab kengkadang tak tau nak gantung kat mana kalau beli bungkus kalau dah ramai dalam kereta. Kawan aku kat Singapore sanggup naik Danga Bay semata nak tekngok Exora. Dia kata dalam luas. Tempat duduk selesa dan betul posture. Paling dia bengang sebab ada teh tarik hook yang MPV lain tak ada (idaman dia). Dia bawak 6 orang lagi member nak try duduk kat dalam. Respond, senang nak masuk, selesa, luas kat tempat duduk belakang. Impress lagi ada aircond blower untuk setiap row belakang. Jalan jauh sampai perlis pun dia nak pakai Exora nie. Sayang dia kata, dia dah beli Freed, kalau tak nak gak sambar exora nie. Beli kat malaysia, pakai kat s’pore. Jimat, murah. Dia ada kata yang Exora ni ada sikit macam Stream 1.7 (old model) tapi lagi selesa. Overall OK, cuma rim tu bukan yang dia suka tapi masalah kecik je sbb banyak rim sport jual kat luar. boleh tukar.
Read more: “Proton Exora: Malaysia’s first MPV from RM69,998!” – http://paultan.org/archives/2009/04/15/proton-exora-malaysias-first-mpv-from-rm69998/#ixzz0ChxOWcJj&A
April 16, 2009 @ 10:24 am
[quote comment="230249"]close shop better ![/quote]
LOL… You are very funny…
April 16, 2009 @ 10:24 am
I bet you P2 MPV will be damn ugly and high FC like the Myvi 1.3A
April 16, 2009 @ 10:27 am
totally inspired by toyota wish.. mostly the interior design. anyway good job proton.
April 16, 2009 @ 10:27 am
Very Nice Congrats Proton. For those who post -ve remark u guys only know who to complain what so great about foreign cars – i hav a Merc C200 & BMW E46 also got problem and quality issues. I bet you P2 MPV will be damn ugly and high FC like the Myvi 1.3A
April 16, 2009 @ 10:29 am
Nanti beli… convert engine to V8 beemer atau V10 ferrari. tak pun masuk enjin boxer subaru . convert to rear wheel drive. boleeey drift wa cakap lu… anyway… for an mpv… nak bawa orang. bukan nak gi racing…
April 16, 2009 @ 10:33 am
[quote comment="230428"]This car is underpower. avanza 1.5 is better deal.[/quote]
Desprete Toyota salesman. Lot’s of avanza booking cancel. Avanza, reduce the price & then the stupid toyota supporters will buy again. LOL.
April 16, 2009 @ 10:37 am
congrats proton…
thanks for this beautiful lady exora..
great mpv for malaysian
not suitable for ‘europe malaysian’ or ‘japan malaysian’ as for them..proton never ever deliver good product.
let us malaysian support malaysia product.
April 16, 2009 @ 10:41 am
what can I say is this MPV is so simple in design but practical in usage.
with the price level, proton provides exora with the best acessories and spesifications.
mana boleh dapat kereta macam ini dengan harga yg sangat rendah.
even, the toyota or honda yg harga mahal pun tk dapat offer accesories and spec macam exora.
apa2 pun, berbaloi untuk dibeli.
tapi, i tak mempunyai keinginan untuk membelinya kerana for me, exora tak mampu nak tanding estima or stream dari segi design. design depan tak ubah macam gen2, dan belakang agak kosong.
bolehlah Proton…
April 16, 2009 @ 10:41 am
The Fuel Consumption isn’t sound promising for us, 9.2 L per 100km is way too high!
But since now the fuel is so inexpensive, then~~~
WAIT, we need to save our mother earth resources before the fuel on the earth is being expense of by all of us.
April 16, 2009 @ 10:43 am
[quote comment="230061"]…the headlights from new jazz…the grill from usdm accord……
rear also from another MPV, but cant recall which model……
overall ugly. bad performance.
another model to potong malaysian citizens.
hopefully they potong enough off the lower class citizens and stop asking for goverment protection, so that all of us can finally own nice cars that we deserve.[/quote]
U can go buy ur deserved car.. as long u can afford . . no need to bash anything . . . dont like it, than leave it.. that s ur money . . u decide it . .
April 16, 2009 @ 10:52 am
congrulation proton…
April 16, 2009 @ 11:07 am
Horsepower is not really important in an MPV I reckon. What’s more important is the torque. Some have argued that Proton needs to turbocharge the engine but this may not be the solution, as it increases fuel consumption.
What they need to do is source a diesel engine asap , maybe from Renault. (say, the 1.9l used in the Scenic. It’s got only 118bhp, but a massive 221lb of torque)
April 16, 2009 @ 11:08 am
Good luck PROTON.
Kawe dah tengok kat showroom.
Pado kawe its quick nice( because this is the Malaysia First MPV).
Compare to others MPV..mantop..
April 16, 2009 @ 11:15 am
Nice job proton………
Bintang baru dalam keluarga proton….
Semoga terus bersinar……..
Belajar dari suka duka kisah silam…proton kini mencipta sejarah baru….
Semoga terus maju….
Tahniah Proton
April 16, 2009 @ 11:18 am
CONGRATS PROTON!!!!
I’watched the launching on TV and also saw the M-Line black colour Exora live.
IMHO Exora design, gadgets, accessories are good and value for money.
As I already own a MPV, I didn’t book. But I would if I haven’t got one.
The issue is maybe the 1.6 engine. But one should test drive 1st to confirm its capability (as an MPV & people/family mover).
All the best and please take care on after sales service and built quality.
April 16, 2009 @ 11:23 am
waaa…..
congratulation proton..
smart gile….
berbaloi dgn harga….
April 16, 2009 @ 11:23 am
Look like proton indeed put in lots of effort to come out with Exora. A lot of nice thingy and useful features, even got cruise control (in higher version though). Good job!!
Nice photos…but took me several time to actually see all photos.. always database error.
April 16, 2009 @ 11:30 am
1st impression:
1) Look not too bad. Although not a looker like Caldina or Stream, at least not the usual Proton-ugly like Juara, Arena, Savvy, Gen2 and all the other eyesore Proton inflict on us over the years. As in, you wouldn’t felt embarrass driving this.
2) Surely badly underpower for such a big car.
3) Pricing is ok for market, but only because of Tax. Still, I don’t feel many buyer in this environment (but same for all brands la, Jap or Conti).
4) Seating position for 3rd row of seat look very uncomfortable from Paul’s picture. Look at the man’s legs.
5) Perodua MPV should still thrash this Exora kau kau provided Perodua marketing and management give it right pricing, features and didn’t made any big mistakes.
April 16, 2009 @ 11:34 am
WOW. I have to get EXORA, insha Allah. It is marvelous. I cant wait to book for one.
Proton has made Malaysians and Muslims proud.
Keep up with the good work!!! More grease to your elbow!!!
Ali Salman, PhD
UKM
April 16, 2009 @ 11:37 am
Congratulations to China factory for supplying the BCM to Proton ! Well done Proton !
April 16, 2009 @ 11:37 am
[quote comment="230413"]Lowering tax for foreign cars will help malaysians? Help what? Help YOU to buy cheap?
We have been too self-centered for so long. Want to know what actually helping malaysians? buy own products helps local business creation helps local skill/tech development helps domestic job creation helps more money circulated domestically helps growth consumer industry helps …… and so forth. Lu pikir la sendiri.
Do you think buying foreigns will have the full chain like above? Do you think money won’t flow out of the country and enrich all those japanese, koreans, indons and mat sallehs if we buy kias, hondas, avanzas and the like?
That’s why foreign co are taxed heavily simply the protect the abundant derivative opportunities of the locals. Any wise leader will think of this.
Get wise. Get real.[/quote]
A foolish perspective only looking at it from a simplistic point of view.
1st) This argument is only valid if Potong is similar or close to foreign makes in quality. Is it, even after 20 years? You know the answer.
2nd) If not being similar in quality and still forcing Malaysian to purchase the car, you are putting Malaysian life at stake.
3rd) The so-call tax we paid to G for buying Japanese car, where does it go? Inside their pocket? Considering: the road tax we paid is not cheap, and almost anywhere we drive on the road also need to paid toll?
What a joke. Don’t bring your UMNO values here, its not appreciate.
April 16, 2009 @ 11:40 am
gud job proton!
even in the 3rd row.., bole duduk selesa tuu..
aksesori semua mantapp
April 16, 2009 @ 11:42 am
[quote comment="230200"]This forum looks bombarded with proton marketing ppl???[/quote]
….and Toyota too…
April 16, 2009 @ 11:47 am
[quote comment="230438"][quote comment="230249"]close shop better ![/quote]
LOL… You are very funny…[/quote]
are u a Malaysian and patriotic? why Malaysians now like to complain unnecessary? hmmm…
April 16, 2009 @ 11:48 am
How’s Exora perform compare to Toyota Unser?
April 16, 2009 @ 11:57 am
Is that grey paint job the same as the persona SE grey? cause those look sexy
also is the leather seats the same as the Persona SE? black with whitish stitching?
April 16, 2009 @ 12:02 pm
Congratulations to a China factory for supplying the BCM to Proton ! Congratulations Proton !
April 16, 2009 @ 12:06 pm
watever u’ll say…..me congrat proton coz its not easy to develop ur own car instead p2 juz replace the facelift hehe
April 16, 2009 @ 12:10 pm
Proton Exora has kick Avanza, Grand Livina, even Naza Ria and Innova asss..and for Chery eastar? sorry bro u r not qualified in this league haha!!
Good job there Proton…proud to own it next year…had to demolished 2nd hand 2003 Odyssey RA3 from my MPV wish list eventhough it price around RM80K something and had more power than Exora (and so i had to change my fast n furious driving style habit).If they upgrade the engine to 1.8 than i think all its rival can meniaga tempat lain lah ha?!!
P/S : Dream of Stream
April 16, 2009 @ 12:17 pm
Nicely done Proton! looks like the engineers and designers are finally working as a team again to produce good cars. We’ve seen a good revamped Saga and now Exora. They paid attention to small intricate details such as having many compartments, bag holder, TouchNGo card compartment, etc., which is definitely a good thing. Since MPVs’ are designed mainly as family cars and majority of the customers are mothers, these designs certainly appeal to them. Looks like they’ve done their homework.
Had some initial reservations over their capabilities of producing a good MPV, but on first impression seems like they have done the job well. Way to go Proton!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:18 pm
ask the malaysia goverment to use Exora as their official car… then malaysia car market will be better then bungkus….. hehe……
my opinion: lower the tax lar. since it is malaysia buat.. what so high tax n price?
if can be lower it then i can guarantee im fully support malaysia product…… NICE!!!!!!!
April 16, 2009 @ 12:39 pm
aiyoyoyo amma…
we have high tax for the car because we got low taxes for everything else….
if they lower the tax for the car, they will increase the taxes for something else..
u never gonna get low taxes for everything u know..
welcome to the real world (except brunei)
April 16, 2009 @ 12:42 pm
Looks like a job well done by Proton, though there are still rooms for improvement. Congratulation!
However I would still go for a Rondo due to my belief that it is still better value for money…
April 16, 2009 @ 12:45 pm
[quote comment="230487"][quote comment="230438"][quote comment="230249"]close shop better ![/quote]
LOL… You are very funny…[/quote]
are u a Malaysian and patriotic? why Malaysians now like to complain unnecessary? hmmm…[/quote]
Malaysian u know… they have this mentality that every japan product is better than malaysian product.. n they like to complain about everything.. n they like sensation stories…
how the hell u got ur phd with that english ?
April 16, 2009 @ 12:52 pm
Congratulation to all protonian. Nice job. Dream to have one……
April 16, 2009 @ 12:52 pm
[quote comment="230481"][quote comment="230413"]Lowering tax for foreign cars will help malaysians? Help what? Help YOU to buy cheap?
We have been too self-centered for so long. Want to know what actually helping malaysians? buy own products helps local business creation helps local skill/tech development helps domestic job creation helps more money circulated domestically helps growth consumer industry helps …… and so forth. Lu pikir la sendiri.
Do you think buying foreigns will have the full chain like above? Do you think money won’t flow out of the country and enrich all those japanese, koreans, indons and mat sallehs if we buy kias, hondas, avanzas and the like?
That’s why foreign co are taxed heavily simply the protect the abundant derivative opportunities of the locals. Any wise leader will think of this.
Get wise. Get real.[/quote]
A foolish perspective only looking at it from a simplistic point of view.
1st) This argument is only valid if Potong is similar or close to foreign makes in quality. Is it, even after 20 years? You know the answer.
2nd) If not being similar in quality and still forcing Malaysian to purchase the car, you are putting Malaysian life at stake.
3rd) The so-call tax we paid to G for buying Japanese car, where does it go? Inside their pocket? Considering: the road tax we paid is not cheap, and almost anywhere we drive on the road also need to paid toll?
What a joke. Don’t bring your UMNO values here, its not appreciate.[/quote]
I don’t remember mentioning any local brands here, neither proton nor perodua.
You are the living example of self-centered being with short sighted lazy mind.
You want all taxes you paid must be converted into benefits you yourself must have, and not others. All you want to believe that all money goes into the pocket of govt and never comes out. If money never comes out, our country dah lama bankrap. IMF would be already at our doorstep. Bro, you need to have at least a decent idea of how an insurance company works before you can take it at a greater height.
btw, me never an UMNO member and never thought to be one. But your spell on the road tax, make me wonder whether your have succumbed to the UMNO values of bangsa subsidi.
Get nice.
April 16, 2009 @ 12:58 pm
Proton really did it right this time. Can’t wait to go to the show room.
April 16, 2009 @ 1:05 pm
congrat to all malaysian!
i ve been dreaming of “our” pride mpv since year 2000 and this is the moment we’ve been waiting for since.
hope all the feature kickin’ or par with others.
quality is what we expect most…
April 16, 2009 @ 1:13 pm
not a bad car…but still come to one question… do we really need PROTON??… if other cars are free from taxes… i don’t mind ‘it’ to be there… but if imported cars are still expensives due to taxes…. sry la proton..u are too much protected… u will never be competitive enough…
April 16, 2009 @ 1:16 pm
nice mpv……my choice to replace my old civic eg. saw it eye to eye..design is good interior and exterior. nice job proton. only not sure about on the road performance, in the showroom performance really ok.
April 16, 2009 @ 1:16 pm
tahniah Proton
& juga team work Exora
atas usaha keras anda merealisasikan
mpv pertama buatan malaysia!
i will go to showroom today
and look in front my eyes
rather than give komen membabi buta
without getting actual fact!
pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton
ada buat ke crash test ke tidak
sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu
tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata
klu avanza,livina takdak pulak
terhegeh2 nk tanya ada crash test ke tak
hmmm~
April 16, 2009 @ 1:22 pm
[quote comment="230536"]not a bad car…but still come to one question… do we really need PROTON??… if other cars are free from taxes… i don’t mind ‘it’ to be there… but if imported cars are still expensives due to taxes…. sry la proton..u are too much protected… u will never be competitive enough…[/quote]
Oh grow up please. If we are willingly to pay 30% to 45% for our income-tax like other developed country than we can imagine to have less taxes for cars..
April 16, 2009 @ 1:29 pm
Menawan. Boleh bersaing dengan MPV lain. Patut dah lama keluar MPV
April 16, 2009 @ 1:33 pm
proton hv no QC… wat the hell la this company,japanese car better..
berat la weih this MPV,bole daki bukit ker.
April 16, 2009 @ 1:37 pm
Why is lap belt only installed for the middle passenger in the second roll seat ? Lab belt can cause serious abdomen injury. 460, you mentioned that there is 3 point safety belt for it earlier on. And, you mentioned that all the seat belts are pretensioner and load limiter equipped. Where ? Only the front seats are equipped with it.
April 16, 2009 @ 1:46 pm
[quote comment="230512"]aiyoyoyo amma…
we have high tax for the car because we got low taxes for everything else….
if they lower the tax for the car, they will increase the taxes for something else..
u never gonna get low taxes for everything u know..
welcome to the real world (except brunei)[/quote]
what taxes are gonna be LOW????????? lower the car tax even can help proton also!!!! dont worry about other foreign car to be lower. If not…… SURE kalah teruk…….
April 16, 2009 @ 1:46 pm
Well done proton….nice car….this weekend will go to showroom
April 16, 2009 @ 1:46 pm
the rear wipers should have been integrated into the rear windscreen, ala wish.
April 16, 2009 @ 1:48 pm
[quote comment="230245"]Dear Paul? i just come back from Proton showroom(around 12am) the Exora really built in good quality and can fit 7 adult easily.
But i don’t agree the title for this article Proton Exora: Malaysian’s First MPV.
Everyone know that the Malaysian’s First MPV is Proton Juara, i think you need to study before you post the title.[/quote]
Haiya….The tag Malaysian’s First MPV meant it’s design and own by Proton.Juara was just a rebadge!
I think YOU need to study before you post.Don’t easily point your fingers without knowledge bro…even monkeys can do that
April 16, 2009 @ 1:52 pm
Proton? Of course will never again! Why? Lu fikirla sendiri.. Adiosss
April 16, 2009 @ 1:58 pm
Good work PROTON.
Eventhough I work with the 2nd national car maker,
I feel proud myself seeing my fierce competitor are
up and ready for the next challenges ahead.
May this will lead to a healthy competition.
Let us be the best automotive industry in the world.
April 16, 2009 @ 2:01 pm
tahniah kpd proton krn dpt mengeluarkan sebuah mpv yang begitu menawan dan cantik.diharap dpt menjaga kualiti supaya boleh bersaing dgn model lain. sya dh book hari nie rm1k. boleh dpt dlm bulan 8 atau 9 thn nie.
April 16, 2009 @ 2:04 pm
i thought the tag-line was “Keriangan Keluarga”? whatever… very nice mpv, interior was better than what i’ve expected.. now need for a TD
April 16, 2009 @ 2:07 pm
How come so many jokers think they’re first? Will we see an end to this childish nonsense?…
April 16, 2009 @ 2:19 pm
Mantop..mantop..
April 16, 2009 @ 2:25 pm
Good Job Proton!
Sekali lagi Proton mula melangkah ke arah pengeluar kenderaan yang berdaya saing. Tahniah kepada warga Proton. Walaupun pelbagai komen positif dan negatif yang diterima, namun, ambillah komen tersebut sebagai input dalam memajukan lagi industri automotif Malaysia. Kepada semua warga Malaysia, usahlah hanya panda memberikan komen, bagilah cadangan juga….dalam erti kata lain, komen yang membina.
Semoga Proton terus mempertingkatkan kualiti produk-produknya di masa akan datang!
April 16, 2009 @ 2:26 pm
congratulation…..
NEVER TO LATE….
saya akan beli sebab ada pengantung tehtarik…
April 16, 2009 @ 2:29 pm
Daniel,
You seem to have a major deep seated hatred towards proton. Whats with it man!
April 16, 2009 @ 2:35 pm
Tahniah keluarga terbaru proton. Aku dah guna dua jenis MPV buatan Korea dan Jepun. Lepas ni boleh beli Malaysian Made pula. Utk makluman semua, MPV luar negeri pun ada masalah juga. Tapi oleh kerana buatan luar negeri tiada pun org kita termasuk pak dan mak menteri heboh mcm dahulu tu.
April 16, 2009 @ 2:35 pm
[quote comment="230166"]Yeah right… the only reason people buy this MPV is because the other brands are having their taxes cruelly high. I wonder if this were a fair market, I bet any Proton will bungkus. And Proton is talking about helping their own Malaysians…[/quote]
Sad to read malaysians banging down their own brand.
April 16, 2009 @ 2:36 pm
just back from coe. the car was really amazing. well, at least for a proton. DSZ was there. he explained to me abit about the front composite frame thing. i think i even got more excited meeting him and talked to him personally LOL!
April 16, 2009 @ 2:36 pm
[quote comment="230525"]
I don’t remember mentioning any local brands here, neither proton nor perodua.
You are the living example of self-centered being with short sighted lazy mind.
You want all taxes you paid must be converted into benefits you yourself must have, and not others. All you want to believe that all money goes into the pocket of govt and never comes out. If money never comes out, our country dah lama bankrap. IMF would be already at our doorstep. Bro, you need to have at least a decent idea of how an insurance company works before you can take it at a greater height.
btw, me never an UMNO member and never thought to be one. But your spell on the road tax, make me wonder whether your have succumbed to the UMNO values of bangsa subsidi.
Get nice.[/quote]
Err………….its actually benefits NO ONE else have. Except for benefits to a few cronies and some workers in Potong factories. Not to mention high tax helps to enrich even few more cronies with AP system.
I think when you complain self-centered and lazy mind you actually talking about the supporter of our “national” car, who is actually the one self center and lazy.
Self-center: Not willing for G to remove high taxes on imported car as this will impact their business.
Lazy: Not willing to improve themself and their company so that even if G remove tax system, their company could still compete.
So 26 million Malaysian need to be burden with keeping this few thousand people with jobs. Such a shame.
April 16, 2009 @ 2:38 pm
[quote comment="230166"]Yeah right… the only reason people buy this MPV is because the other brands are having their taxes cruelly high. I wonder if this were a fair market, I bet any Proton will bungkus. And Proton is talking about helping their own Malaysians…[/quote]
As a foreigner, I find it amazing to read malaysians bashing their own brand. Proton may not be prefect but it is your brand man!!
April 16, 2009 @ 2:40 pm
semalam aku g tengok dkt show room..
design ok utk first mpv..
gear box auto masih pakai mitsubishi..
pace luas & selesa..
bravo to proton!!!
April 16, 2009 @ 2:43 pm
just came back frm the showroom.
Not yet available for test drive so it’s difficult to judge the power of the car.
I guess it will be abit underpowered.
But still, i tried all 3 rows of seats, all very comfortable. I’m 1.78m tall.
Interior very well designed, switches have abit of feel to them compared to persona.
Sometimes, i read all the comments frm bashers, i feel really sad.
Not all of us are well off to get whatever cars we want. If i can afford it, i will most prolly juz keep quiet instead of complaining about other cars.
It’s like complaining about other ppls wife not being beautiful or sexy enough. Hey, if we all have a choice, we all want supermodels as a wife and driving around in a ferrari. But how many of us have?
Nobody is pointing a gun at our heads forcing us to take a bank loan to buy a proton. Hell some can’t even get a loan approved for a proton!!
Bottom line is this, everyone have their own budgets for tranport, some can afford foreign makes and some could not. There’s no need to come in here and tell everone how lousy proton is just to make ppl who own a proton feel bad. I love my proton, but an honest opinion, i hate the service centre staffs!!
I myself currently drive a persona, it’s a good car. Not great in anyway but good. Upgraded frm my 8 year old iswara. hehehe
Maybe one day i can afford other cars but hey, iswara -> persona already considered an upgrade rite?
Congrats to proton!!
April 16, 2009 @ 2:59 pm
aih… Dah kuar pun nak gaduh pasal Tax plak. Oklah. Kalau tax dah turun, agak2 harga proton turun tak ?. Sure turun punya. Kereta import korang kena kira gak kos pengangkutan nak masuk sini. Duti export negara diaorang campur duti import malaysia campur kos angkut naik kapal tolak kos kurangkan kualiti sebanyak 20% ke 30%. Hah dapat harga pun. Korang ingat duit minyak kapal tu free ke. Duti export diaorang tak kena ke ?. Harga kat langkawi tu korang tak payah kira OK. kalau korang tau keadaan kereta kat langkawi tu mau korang tak nak beli punya. Korang kira sikit ok. Honda stream kuar. Saiz lebih kurang sama, aircond cuma ada kat 3rd seat aje. Harga waktu tu berapa ?. Harga Exora skarang dah campur tax gak tau. Kalau dikurangkan tax untuk semua kenderaan, still exora masih murah. Mungkin boleh dapat dlm RM60k untuk H-line. Sekarang fikir, beli barang sendiri dan buat ekonomi negara bergerak ke atau duit keluar dan kita tengok negara lain kaya. Thailand skarang bergolak. Industri kenderaan mereka juga teruk sebab rakyat kuar tunjuk perasaan tak nak keje. Sekurangnya Tax yang kerajaan dapat tu korang boleh pakai contoh jalan raya. Kembangkan ekonomi dengan rangsangan kewangan untuk peniaga, banyak lagi. Proton dah buat perubahan dibawah bimbingan DSZ. DSZ pun perihatin gak dgn masalah yang lepas2. Semalam dia pun dah janji untuk improve kualiti (virus power window ?). Proton masih muda, banyak kena belajar lagi. Tak macam GM yang dah berpuluh tahun pengalaman (otai tapi degil). Proton banyak lagi ruang untuk pergi jauh. Sekurangnya industri dari negara kita yang size tanah nak macam jepun tu boleh jadi salah satu pesaing industry kenderaan besar dunia. sapa tau. (Dah minyak nak abis, Kata diaorang lah).
April 16, 2009 @ 3:08 pm
aih… Dah kuar pun nak gaduh pasal Tax plak. Oklah. Kalau tax dah turun, agak2 harga proton turun tak ?. Sure turun punya. Kereta import korang kena kira gak kos pengangkutan nak masuk sini. Duti export negara diaorang campur duti import malaysia campur kos angkut naik kapal tolak kos kurangkan kualiti sebanyak 20% ke 30%. Hah dapat harga pun. Korang ingat duit minyak kapal tu free ke. Duti export diaorang tak kena ke ?. Harga kat langkawi tu korang tak payah kira OK. kalau korang tau keadaan kereta kat langkawi tu mau korang tak nak beli punya. Korang kira sikit ok. Honda stream kuar. Saiz lebih kurang sama, aircond cuma ada kat 3rd seat aje. Harga waktu tu berapa ?. Harga Exora skarang dah campur tax gak tau. Kalau dikurangkan tax untuk semua kenderaan, still exora masih murah. Mungkin boleh dapat dlm RM60k untuk H-line. Sekarang fikir, beli barang sendiri dan buat ekonomi negara bergerak ke atau duit keluar dan kita tengok negara lain kaya. Thailand skarang bergolak. Industri kenderaan mereka juga teruk sebab rakyat kuar tunjuk perasaan tak nak keje. Sekurangnya Tax yang kerajaan dapat tu korang boleh pakai contoh jalan raya. Kembangkan ekonomi dengan rangsangan kewangan untuk peniaga, banyak lagi. Proton dah buat perubahan dibawah bimbingan DSZ. DSZ pun perihatin gak dgn masalah yang lepas2. Semalam dia pun dah janji untuk improve kualiti (virus power window ?). Proton masih muda, banyak kena belajar lagi. Tak macam GM yang dah berpuluh tahun pengalaman (otai tapi degil). Proton banyak lagi ruang untuk pergi jauh. Sekurangnya industri dari negara kita yang size tanah nak macam jepun tu boleh jadi salah satu pesaing industry kenderaan besar dunia. sapa tau. (Dah minyak nak abis, Kata diaorang lah).
April 16, 2009 @ 3:12 pm
2nd row seats get too much space. shud give more space to 3rd row!
April 16, 2009 @ 3:45 pm
[quote comment="230538"]tahniah Proton
& juga team work Exora
atas usaha keras anda merealisasikan
mpv pertama buatan malaysia!
i will go to showroom today
and look in front my eyes
rather than give komen membabi buta
without getting actual fact!
Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.
Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m’jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~
pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton
ada buat ke crash test ke tidak
sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu
tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata
klu avanza,livina takdak pulak
terhegeh2 nk tanya ada crash test ke tak
hmmm~[/quote]
April 16, 2009 @ 3:46 pm
[quote comment="230538"]tahniah Proton
& juga team work Exora
atas usaha keras anda merealisasikan
mpv pertama buatan malaysia!
i will go to showroom today
and look in front my eyes
rather than give komen membabi buta
without getting actual fact!
klu avanza,livina takdak pulak
terhegeh2 nk tanya ada crash test ke tak
hmmm~[/quote]
Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.
Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m’jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~
pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton
ada buat ke crash test ke tidak
sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu
tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata
April 16, 2009 @ 3:52 pm
went just now to the proton showroom jln ampang.
exterior looks ok.
interior looks ok.
it looks much way better in flesh rather than pics!
driving position, i like.
simple dashboard, i can tolerate.
overall finishing, ok. i can spot 3 different textures involved.
proton should look into these not-so-ok pts.:
1. interior. the panel in the dashbrd near the triangular window in front, that looks flimsy.
2. interior. the spacing (gap) between the steering column & dashbrd can be seen when the steering is tilted to the lowest position.
3. exterior. the gap at the plastic at the lower position of windshield can be noticed.
when can i drive one?
April 16, 2009 @ 3:58 pm
[quote comment="230590"]Err………….its actually benefits NO ONE else have. Except for benefits to a few cronies and some workers in Potong factories. Not to mention high tax helps to enrich even few more cronies with AP system.
I think when you complain self-centered and lazy mind you actually talking about the supporter of our “national” car, who is actually the one self center and lazy.
Self-center: Not willing for G to remove high taxes on imported car as this will impact their business.
Lazy: Not willing to improve themself and their company so that even if G remove tax system, their company could still compete.
So 26 million Malaysian need to be burden with keeping this few thousand people with jobs. Such a shame.[/quote]
dont cry like baby when gov apply high income tax n service tax + any item u wan2 buy gets VAT aka Value Added Tax once they abolish car tax
April 16, 2009 @ 4:01 pm
[quote comment="230626"]Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.
Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m’jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~
pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton
ada buat ke crash test ke tidak
sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu
tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata[/quote]
looks like some1 never watch crash test video b4
April 16, 2009 @ 4:04 pm
Proton Boleh! Malaysia Boleh! Boleh bersaing dengan latest mpv spt. wish, innova, dan macam-macam lagilah. Lepas ni, giliran Perodua pulak nak buat MPVnya. Platfofm diambil direct dari model toyota. Pasti ada persaingan sengit yang akan berlaku.
April 16, 2009 @ 4:20 pm
Barang baik, harga cantik…. so apa ada hal… boleh beli le. Compare ngan keta import cam Innova, wish, stream tak adil le…. Harga anatara produk proton ngan jenama lain jauh sangat beza. Yang penting bagi MPV selesa dan luas, dan bukannya kelajuan. Ni MPV le bukan keta sedan… huhuhu
April 16, 2009 @ 4:23 pm
surprisingly…the pick-up really good. got change to test drive it last night.
with 5 person no problem at all for this MPV. it feel like drive a sedan car. good job proton. all the best
April 16, 2009 @ 4:40 pm
[quote comment="230633"][quote comment="230626"]Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.
Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m’jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~
pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton
ada buat ke crash test ke tidak
sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu
tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata[/quote]
looks like some1 never watch crash test video b4[/quote]
hmmm…. biasa le. tu tak tengok youtube Topgear comment pasal waja. Aku rasa exora meet the standard bila antar ke NACP. sebab cabin tu tengok utuh je bila berlanggar. pastu test terbalik pun ok sebab body tak guling banyak pastu cabin pun ok. Ada ke crash test depan bumper tak rosak ?.
April 16, 2009 @ 4:46 pm
Another model going to sell at least 20 years to recoup its investment in platform given the high R & D cost. Good luck to those who book the car, your next generation likely to buy the same car with facelift down the road – same thing happen to the freaking milo tin on the wheel Saga/Iswara.
April 16, 2009 @ 4:51 pm
For future Exora variants, Proton better purchase 2.0L to 2.4L engine and plonk into engine bay, with weight of over 1.40 Tonne, it is definitely under power for 1.6L engine.
April 16, 2009 @ 4:54 pm
Bloated car with a small heart! Price could be lower! What happened to NAP?
April 16, 2009 @ 4:58 pm
Overweight car with a small engine! Another Proton rip off. Why can’t they just give value for once & build up a loyal following! They’re in this for the long run right? What have they to lose.
April 16, 2009 @ 5:04 pm
On paper and pictures this car looks interesting. I think overall Proton did a good job and I have to congratulate you guys. Seems like recently Proton have been producing cars which are sensible (new gen Saga and Exora) for Malaysian. Don’t worry about sceptics, even the largest car producer in the world get bashings now and then.
April 16, 2009 @ 5:21 pm
well done proton… proud of u… the only prob with proton cars nowdays… the weight!!.. too heavy for their engine.. dun worry with critics.. it will make u better.. TAHNIAH
April 16, 2009 @ 5:23 pm
[quote comment="230630"]went just now to the proton showroom jln ampang.
exterior looks ok.
interior looks ok.
it looks much way better in flesh rather than pics!
driving position, i like.
simple dashboard, i can tolerate.
overall finishing, ok. i can spot 3 different textures involved.
proton should look into these not-so-ok pts.:
1. interior. the panel in the dashbrd near the triangular window in front, that looks flimsy.
2. interior. the spacing (gap) between the steering column & dashbrd can be seen when the steering is tilted to the lowest position.
3. exterior. the gap at the plastic at the lower position of windshield can be noticed.
when can i drive one? 8-)[/quote]
Bro,
How’s the seat size ? How’s the thigh support ?
April 16, 2009 @ 5:26 pm
[quote comment="230626"]
Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.
Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m’jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~
[/quote]
yup betul, bukan official Euro NCAP crash test..
tetapi…
test ni ialah Euro NCAP Compliant.
agak2 tau x maksud “compliant”?
compliant maksudnye hampir sama, cuma xbuat kt Euro NCAP.
drp pembacaan aku, test exora dijalankn di IDIADA Spain.
google plz.
kalu aku xsilap, Japan NCAP pn ada. IIHS America pn ada.
Crash Test.
dlm crash-test, mmg la akn ada besi kemek, tayar tercabut, cermin pecah etc.
tp adakah besi kemik tu masuk dlm passanger cabin? xde kn?
maknanye ok la tuh.
time exora rolling tu ada nmpk A-pillar patah x? xde kn?
maknanye ok la tuh.
ada x dashboard exora terkeluar rapat ke dummy? xde kn?
maknanye ok la tuh.
fungsi crash test ialah untuk validation drp simulasi komputer.
target crash test ialah utk mengkaji struktur chassis kereta supaya boleh direka agar ia dpt memberi keselamatan seoptimumnya kpd penumpang sekiranye berlaku kemalangan.
hasilnye, kereta akn direka agar dpt menyerap momentum (energy sewaktu impact) (baca: kemek) pd tmpt yg kurang-kritikal. pd tmpt yg kritikal (passanger cabin) ia lebih teguh. sila tgk video dgn teliti
xpe, dlm belajar ada salah2 xpe.
tp kalu xngaku salah, xdapek den nolongnye.
April 16, 2009 @ 5:29 pm
man man ooo said,
April 16, 2009 @ 10:29 am · Reply with quote
Nanti beli… convert engine to V8 beemer atau V10 ferrari. tak pun masuk enjin boxer subaru . convert to rear wheel drive. boleeey drift wa cakap lu… anyway… for an mpv… nak bawa orang. bukan nak gi racing
betul… betul… betul… betul… it is MPV. that why la kemalangan di malaysia ni in top rating… ingat nak laju je…
anyway salute to Proton. trully malaysian.
April 16, 2009 @ 5:29 pm
surprisingly…the pick-up really good. got change to test drive it last night. with 5 person no problem at all for this MPV. its a fast enuf car!! juz not enuf road to test the top speed. it feel like drive a sedan car. good job proton. all the best
Read more: “Proton Exora: Malaysia’s first MPV from RM69,998!” – http://paultan.org/archives/2009/04/15/proton-exora-malaysias-first-mpv-from-rm69998/#ixzz0CpYnUKR5&A
April 16, 2009 @ 5:38 pm
On paper and pictures this car looks interesting. I think overall Proton did a good job and I have to congratulate you guys. Seems like recently Proton have been producing cars which are sensible (new gen Saga and Exora) for Malaysian. Don’t worry about sceptics, even the largest car producer in the world get bashings now and then. Surely pre test needs to be done before you send them for true assesment by NACP. Nak buat test tu semua bukan free, so kalau tak pre test dulu rugi la kalau fail. You can watch other videos on other cars with NACP rating of 4 to compare with the one you just watched in this article to satisfy your questions.
April 16, 2009 @ 5:47 pm
[quote comment="230590"][quote comment="230525"]
I don’t remember mentioning any local brands here, neither proton nor perodua.
You are the living example of self-centered being with short sighted lazy mind.
You want all taxes you paid must be converted into benefits you yourself must have, and not others. All you want to believe that all money goes into the pocket of govt and never comes out. If money never comes out, our country dah lama bankrap. IMF would be already at our doorstep. Bro, you need to have at least a decent idea of how an insurance company works before you can take it at a greater height.
btw, me never an UMNO member and never thought to be one. But your spell on the road tax, make me wonder whether your have succumbed to the UMNO values of bangsa subsidi.
Get nice.[/quote]
Err………….its actually benefits NO ONE else have. Except for benefits to a few cronies and some workers in Potong factories. Not to mention high tax helps to enrich even few more cronies with AP system.
I think when you complain self-centered and lazy mind you actually talking about the supporter of our “national” car, who is actually the one self center and lazy.
Self-center: Not willing for G to remove high taxes on imported car as this will impact their business.
Lazy: Not willing to improve themself and their company so that even if G remove tax system, their company could still compete.
So 26 million Malaysian need to be burden with keeping this few thousand people with jobs. Such a shame.[/quote]
haiiya you… give time to Proton aaa…. not fair to compare Proton with T and H badge…. too young for proton…. not reach 30 years yet…. if you remove the taxes from imported car….. of course proton will lose…. give time to proton to revive their corporate image… is it fare to compare 2+ years company with the one who already reached 60 years in automobile sector… think again … i’m trully supporting u ..kassorga …. you are right…
i own proton persona for a year …already … nothing malfunction in my car….
owh …. bad perception among malaysian… too lazy to change your own mentality
owh … proton got QC prob = damn hideous proton
owh … T & H badge got prob = urm… it’s ok… can be fixed….
the launch ceremony already told about the infamous power window failure…. i think they already on the way … to improve their QC prob…..
there is no automobile company who wanted to produce such a lousy car… and no quality….
malaysian … we have to remember …. where we going to get our add financial resources if the country’s oil resources ran out…. we cant just be the ” negara pengguna ” for the whole life… whereelse the country itself is getting nowhere…
anyway … it is a milestone for proton … to improve themselves… syabas PROTON…. you make us proud to be Malaysian….
those who want to buy kia, hyundai, t, h….. dont like proton …. dont give lousy comment…. if it is helpful…. you are greet to say…. if just want to give idiotic bashing comment… go to hell to you…..
if u so good enough… change your nationality …. stay at japan or europe as long as you want…..
malaysia doesnt need you….
it’s true ….. like DSZ said… malaysian want performance like europe car… design like japanese… and price like malaysia………..
hurm…… do not know how to be grateful….
April 16, 2009 @ 5:47 pm
Not Ah_beng [quote comment="230632"][quote comment="230590"]Err………….its actually benefits NO ONE else have. Except for benefits to a few cronies and some workers in Potong factories. Not to mention high tax helps to enrich even few more cronies with AP system.
I think when you complain self-centered and lazy mind you actually talking about the supporter of our “national” car, who is actually the one self center and lazy.
Self-center: Not willing for G to remove high taxes on imported car as this will impact their business.
Lazy: Not willing to improve themself and their company so that even if G remove tax system, their company could still compete.
So 26 million Malaysian need to be burden with keeping this few thousand people with jobs. Such a shame.[/quote]
not Ah_beng have started again!!!
ok just answer these questions and i guess end of the day you will know why protecting proton is better than lowering taxes(but is still dont agree with NAP)
question one:
who will benefit the MOST if the G lower car taxes??
A.you,because you get to drive cheaper foreign cars
B.Foreigners who build those cars and their own country businesses
question two:
what BENEFITS do you get supporting products from foreign country??
A.Pride and joy of own foreign products
B.help funding R&D in countries like japan,german and america with your hard earn cash and letting the suck all our talented engineers with better salary offer and help them accelerate their development process and push your home country backwards and remain as developing country and let all you hard earn cash enjoyed by some foreigners.
why malaysian made products need G support and protection??
A. so that some cronies can get rich and you get poorer neglecting the important R&D and developments.
B. so that our hard earn cash remains in our country..your kids who want to be engineers,designers,and etc can have a place to work..our talented minds remain in our country to accelerate growth and we can become a developed country and sooner or later our home growth companies can bring back foreigners money into the country and help us earn a little bit more!!
remember everyone…proton and rest of the national companies have not done anything wrong..they were planned to accelerate our country’s growth and progress but people who are corrupted and selfish such as those cronies and certain leader who want to get rich fast who is the cause for these companies to be what they are now!!and pity thing is..those people who are stopping the progress of those companies are malaysian too…
as long as corruption stays in our leaders blood,cronies and etc exist..we will have a very hard time to become a developed nation…
April 16, 2009 @ 6:03 pm
[quote comment="230551"][quote comment="230512"]aiyoyoyo amma…
we have high tax for the car because we got low taxes for everything else….
if they lower the tax for the car, they will increase the taxes for something else..
u never gonna get low taxes for everything u know..
welcome to the real world (except brunei)[/quote]
what taxes are gonna be LOW????????? lower the car tax even can help proton also!!!! dont worry about other foreign car to be lower. If not…… SURE kalah teruk…….[/quote]
oi stupid, our income taxes is very low..
go google other country income tax, 20% – 30%
god I hate this typical malaysian
April 16, 2009 @ 6:26 pm
[quote comment="230487"][quote comment="230438"][quote comment="230249"]close shop better ![/quote]
LOL… You are very funny…[/quote]
are u a Malaysian and patriotic? why Malaysians now like to complain unnecessary? hmmm…[/quote]
Bcuz some ppl are just plain losers. They glorify the Japanese like they are nipponjin themselves, bt somehow I dun understand why do they refuse to migrate and apply for citizenship there.
What’s all this abt life at stake?! HAH?!?!?!!?! Buta sgt ke diorg ni sume, baru je baca Exora gi test, siap gmbr, siap video, tu tak ke bukti Exora ni ada standard keselamatan yg tinggi?!?!
MyBoy,
Somebody else had reminded me something u shud be told: instead of “cakap lebat”, go test drive the Exora. JUST. BLOODY. GO. Until then, stop embarrassing our country. Foreigners with PhD are reading this blog.
April 16, 2009 @ 6:51 pm
good job proton! keep up the good work
April 16, 2009 @ 6:55 pm
Bangga aku ngan proton yg dh produced 1st Good Ideal Impressive Malaysians MPV..harga pn mampu milik… prouds!!
April 16, 2009 @ 6:59 pm
[quote comment="230670"][quote comment="230626"]
Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.
Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m’jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~
[/quote]
yup betul, bukan official Euro NCAP crash test..
tetapi…
test ni ialah Euro NCAP Compliant.
agak2 tau x maksud “compliant”?
compliant maksudnye hampir sama, cuma xbuat kt Euro NCAP.
drp pembacaan aku, test exora dijalankn di IDIADA Spain.
google plz.
kalu aku xsilap, Japan NCAP pn ada. IIHS America pn ada.
Crash Test.
dlm crash-test, mmg la akn ada besi kemek, tayar tercabut, cermin pecah etc.
tp adakah besi kemik tu masuk dlm passanger cabin? xde kn?
maknanye ok la tuh.
time exora rolling tu ada nmpk A-pillar patah x? xde kn?
maknanye ok la tuh.
ada x dashboard exora terkeluar rapat ke dummy? xde kn?
maknanye ok la tuh.
fungsi crash test ialah untuk validation drp simulasi komputer.
target crash test ialah utk mengkaji struktur chassis kereta supaya boleh direka agar ia dpt memberi keselamatan seoptimumnya kpd penumpang sekiranye berlaku kemalangan.
hasilnye, kereta akn direka agar dpt menyerap momentum (energy sewaktu impact) (baca: kemek) pd tmpt yg kurang-kritikal. pd tmpt yg kritikal (passanger cabin) ia lebih teguh. sila tgk video dgn teliti
xpe, dlm belajar ada salah2 xpe.
tp kalu xngaku salah, xdapek den nolongnye.[/quote]
i agree with u man…..stupid P1 basher…
April 16, 2009 @ 7:03 pm
[quote comment="230682"][quote comment="230551"][quote comment="230512"]aiyoyoyo amma…
we have high tax for the car because we got low taxes for everything else….
if they lower the tax for the car, they will increase the taxes for something else..
u never gonna get low taxes for everything u know..
welcome to the real world (except brunei)[/quote]
what taxes are gonna be LOW????????? lower the car tax even can help proton also!!!! dont worry about other foreign car to be lower. If not…… SURE kalah teruk…….[/quote]
oi stupid, our income taxes is very low..
go google other country income tax, 20% – 30%
god I hate this typical malaysian[/quote]
haya don call people stupid la you!
April 16, 2009 @ 7:08 pm
I just saw the car from the showroom near my house today and it’s really not bad at all… The only thing i dislike about the car is the Uneven lines on the dash!!! It’s kinda really obvious at the front passenger center side of the dash…. Proton should really improve that actually… Other than that it’s ok… I like the door closing sound… It’s sounds more “solid” compared to Persona and previous models…
April 16, 2009 @ 7:14 pm
[quote comment="230061"]…the headlights from new jazz…the grill from usdm accord……
rear also from another MPV, but cant recall which model……
overall ugly. bad performance.
another model to potong malaysian citizens.
hopefully they potong enough off the lower class citizens and stop asking for goverment protection, so that all of us can finally own nice cars that we deserve.[/quote]
Proton has done a good, if not superb job in designing the vehicle. It is very, very unfair to say that this is a second class vehicle for Malaysians. For the first time Malaysians can afford to own a locally designed and produced MPV that sits seven for the price of 70k. The vehicle looks stunning, with ample rooms for all its occupants. Maybe the mentality of “Proton ? Mana ada kualiti !” is embedded in the thoughts of many of us. Sure, the vehicle has got lots of rooms for improvements, but that does not mean the vehicle is second to those that are produced by other manufacturers. Maybe the engine is a tad underpowered to propel the vehicle, but I am sure that Proton engineers will rectify this problem soon, by fitting it with a bigger capacity engine maybe ?
April 16, 2009 @ 7:16 pm
[quote comment="230670"][quote comment="230626"]
Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.
Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m’jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~
[/quote]
yup betul, bukan official Euro NCAP crash test..
tetapi…
test ni ialah Euro NCAP Compliant.
agak2 tau x maksud “compliant”?
compliant maksudnye hampir sama, cuma xbuat kt Euro NCAP.
drp pembacaan aku, test exora dijalankn di IDIADA Spain.
google plz.
kalu aku xsilap, Japan NCAP pn ada. IIHS America pn ada.
Crash Test.
dlm crash-test, mmg la akn ada besi kemek, tayar tercabut, cermin pecah etc.
tp adakah besi kemik tu masuk dlm passanger cabin? xde kn?
maknanye ok la tuh.
time exora rolling tu ada nmpk A-pillar patah x? xde kn?
maknanye ok la tuh.
ada x dashboard exora terkeluar rapat ke dummy? xde kn?
maknanye ok la tuh.
fungsi crash test ialah untuk validation drp simulasi komputer.
target crash test ialah utk mengkaji struktur chassis kereta supaya boleh direka agar ia dpt memberi keselamatan seoptimumnya kpd penumpang sekiranye berlaku kemalangan.
hasilnye, kereta akn direka agar dpt menyerap momentum (energy sewaktu impact) (baca: kemek) pd tmpt yg kurang-kritikal. pd tmpt yg kritikal (passanger cabin) ia lebih teguh. sila tgk video dgn teliti
xpe, dlm belajar ada salah2 xpe.
tp kalu xngaku salah, xdapek den nolongnye.[/quote]
Dahla tu…penat je ko taip panjang2..entah si P1 basher ni faham ke tidak..
anyway,i didnt manage to visit proton showroom yet.lot of work at office..(maybe after this maghrib or isyak try to go to showroom).
guys let us see exora tv commercial.(i patch for you this link)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32Z_q5poujs
look properly at 0:45, and you will see cameraman’s shadow fall on the mpv very obviously…looks funny meh..aiyo,producer..are you rushing to make this footage?
April 16, 2009 @ 7:29 pm
I think Tax subject should be the compulsory subject in SPM. So everyone of us can understand about the personal tax, company tax, even the tax on goods imported. They G have high tax on imported car must have their reason. Should think the advantages not just on the disadvantages point of view.
Back to topic. I really impressed the Proton’s first car with BCM. I like the Exora’s alarm system. Amazing. I like the guy says Hello, Tuan saya di sini…!!! haha..
April 16, 2009 @ 7:30 pm
aiseh, wanna complaint about tax then log on to our PM’s blog lah.
give ur views there.
tell u, try live in japan, then u’ll know almost every single thing u pay 5% tax (i really mean it – almost every single thing).
anyway, good job proton.
tak sabar nak balik malaysia to test drive.
April 16, 2009 @ 7:34 pm
Don’t call them stupid call them Bodoh. They must surely lead a gawdawful personal life. I mean think of it man. These are people who are so full of negative energy. We used to work where bosses always look at the bad things that we do and never appreciate the good things. Bad is bigger. But in the bigger scheme of things, they’re just fluff that get’s in the way of greatness.
April 16, 2009 @ 7:35 pm
[quote comment="230545"]proton hv no QC… wat the hell la this company,japanese car better..
berat la weih this MPV,bole daki bukit ker.[/quote]
don’t talk without facts.
try urself then share with us here!
April 16, 2009 @ 7:35 pm
[quote comment="230415"]i really like its meter display.
Wow! there are many place to put your belonging…
What i really like is this statement “Proton claims the Exora was designed to achieve a 4-star rating in Euro NCAP crash tests and it has passed an Euro NCAP equivalent test at a private testing facility in Spain. Actual Euro NCAP testing has not been done yet but as the test specs were the same the Exora should be able to gain a 4 star result in real Euro NCAP testing as well”
I like a statement which is clear and honest.[/quote]
Who doesn’t ?
April 16, 2009 @ 7:38 pm
[quote comment="230175"][quote comment="230166"]Yeah right… the only reason people buy this MPV is because the other brands are having their taxes cruelly high. I wonder if this were a fair market, I bet any Proton will bungkus. And Proton is talking about helping their own Malaysians…[/quote]
I agree with you Steve, if only Honda Stream had no tax that high…[/quote]
its fair maa…they do not want our car enter their country but we let them in so tax high2 la ..they block our car we tax their car..fair la kan.. that way to protect car industry…
April 16, 2009 @ 7:50 pm
[quote comment="230245"]Dear Paul? i just come back from Proton showroom(around 12am) the Exora really built in good quality and can fit 7 adult easily.
But i don’t agree the title for this article Proton Exora: Malaysian’s First MPV.
Everyone know that the Malaysian’s First MPV is Proton Juara, i think you need to study before you post the title.[/quote]
that a rebadge mini van from mitsu ma…check wikipedia
April 16, 2009 @ 7:56 pm
this website is full of proton people posting comments on how “good” their car apparently is. if this awful car is good, then a toyota alphard has to be just sheer mpv pleasure.
April 16, 2009 @ 7:57 pm
Syabas & setinggi-tinggi tahniah untuk Proton!
Satu hadiah kepada rakyat Malaysia sebuah MPV yang amat hebat, mantap, berkuasa dan amat menarik potongan (rekabentuk) air tangan (hasil) sentuhan anak tempatan! Hidup Proton!
April 16, 2009 @ 7:59 pm
I heard from my friend who’s working with the exora EURO NCAP testing in spain said that they did not really reach 4 star. some sort of like upper 3 close to 4 star. thats what i heard roughly from him lah. but i love the exora prestige design. looks gangster!
April 16, 2009 @ 8:20 pm
all the bashing has made proton to produce a good looking nice MPV…. nice advert..nice car..if only it has a slightly powerful engine =)
April 16, 2009 @ 8:20 pm
[quote comment="230626"][quote comment="230538"]tahniah Proton
& juga team work Exora
atas usaha keras anda merealisasikan
mpv pertama buatan malaysia!
i will go to showroom today
and look in front my eyes
rather than give komen membabi buta
without getting actual fact!
klu avanza,livina takdak pulak
terhegeh2 nk tanya ada crash test ke tak
hmmm~[/quote]
Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.
Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m’jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~
pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton
ada buat ke crash test ke tidak
sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu
tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata[/quote]
ni lagi sorg..pena blaja fizik tak..cube teke saper tercampak lebih jauh kete (A) yg remuk habis serap hentakan dgn kete(B) keras (saper plak yg serap hentakan) dgn syarat 2- 2 xpakai belt..jawapan……….
April 16, 2009 @ 8:29 pm
malaysian mentality…its doesnt matter how good the design is, if it is made in malaysia, nothing is good enough, if EXORA got 10 STAR euro NCAP also still not gud enough….Japanese product is always better than malaysia, come on man……mcm mana malaysia mau maju…kesiann……kesian malaysian, kesian malaysia…
April 16, 2009 @ 8:49 pm
Aku sebenarnya x nk bnyk komen pasal proton, cuma 1st skali aku bangga proton ada inisiatif gk nk wat kete MPV… dah lama dh aku dok tunggu perubahan cm nie… tp ape yg bagus luar cantik, dalam cantik ngan DVD, GPS tp slack btl x de sun roof… Bkn slalu nk blh tgk kete Malaysia ade sun roof… kan kan kan… Tp aku mintak la pihak proton cuba plak wt r/d enjin tebo atau supercharge… Klau nk dilihatkn fuel consumption n power 2 weight ratio enjin tebo ngan supercharge lebih sesuai… x yah nk upgrade 1.6 pegi 2.0…. roadtax pun murah… Xkan proton sanggup labur duit ke UK untok upgrade enjin neo je( cari dalam youtube)… Nak diambil yang pro ngan con, proton telah banyak membantu negara… Ngan employment n providing private transportation tg berpatutan harga…. X kan 2 pn xleh bangga… Walaupin proton nampak cm dah nk terumbang-ambing tp ada gak kete baru, x da plak retrenchment, x de plak nk kna tutup kilang sana, kilang sini… Nie lah future automotive company kita… Bangga? Mustilah…. hang pikiaq la sendiri…. Assalamualaikum.
April 16, 2009 @ 8:49 pm
malaysians.. bunch of complainers.. kamon!! support our national cars!! everything has to complain, puji tanak langusng, cannot progress la ini macam..
April 16, 2009 @ 8:59 pm
RM70k for this crap!!?
Dont be dumb people! this mpv shud be priced below 50k! We poor poor malaysian are forced to pay for the stupid tax which we dont deserve!
April 16, 2009 @ 9:04 pm
cant they use other thing to hang beside the drawer ?? why must use a bungkus of “teh tarik” ????!!! make that car look freaking cheap ……..
April 16, 2009 @ 9:07 pm
yeah its can give A to proton..finally proton mada it. but pls make sure no any comment frm customers, cuase overall look nice but we only know after we driving hope not any simple defect..keep it up prpton
April 16, 2009 @ 9:22 pm
[quote comment="230745"]cant they use other thing to hang beside the drawer ?? why must use a bungkus of “teh tarik” ????!!! make that car look freaking cheap ……..[/quote]
wow.. u have take retardation to a new level
April 16, 2009 @ 9:28 pm
good job to Proton,have a step improvement…for the 1st MPV car.exora.but one thing regarding the safety …impact…35kmh.. ? not so compact car refer to the video test as above. anywhere it is the first MPV car and try to do the best one in future…
thank you to proton Malaysia…Malaysia Boleh lah.!
April 16, 2009 @ 9:38 pm
[quote comment="230745"]cant they use other thing to hang beside the drawer ?? why must use a bungkus of “teh tarik” ????!!! make that car look freaking cheap ……..[/quote]
aiyah..people driving merce / BM aslo can be found hanging at kedai mamak / bangsar / uptown.
so what the heck? open mind la fren.
April 16, 2009 @ 9:39 pm
surprisingly…the pick-up really good. got change to test drive it last night. with 5 person no problem at all for this MPV. its a fast enuf car!! juz not enuf road to test the top speed. it feel like drive a sedan car. good job proton. all the best
April 16, 2009 @ 9:40 pm
yeah, agree. plastic part still not on par with toyota.
during the crash, the hood should be designed to absorb the kinetic energy i.e. crush or folded to avoid the intrusion to the cabin. mau putus kepala ka?
also agree with the underpower issue, but it should be decent enough to carry people.
hope proton will come up with new fuel economy engine with higher torque for the exora with front&rear brake disc, esc and new transmission.
April 16, 2009 @ 9:44 pm
thanz to proton engineers…
April 16, 2009 @ 9:53 pm
I can say Exora is quite a improvement…
April 16, 2009 @ 9:56 pm
I think proton was working with LG on this, same like saga too…
April 16, 2009 @ 9:59 pm
Biar laa derang…tak paham maksud crumple zones in the first place. Kalau paham theory pasal crumple zones takkan bebel pasal bab nih. Renault Modus yang dapat 5 stars pun remuk habis sampai A-Pillar. The point is to absorb energy. Nampak sangat ada orang tak pay attention iklan Toyota dulu pasal GOA. Kalo keras sangat energy transfer maksud cockpit, itu yang kita tak nak kalau major accident. Waja did poorly dalam NCAP pasal overall structure dia terlalu keras kalau frontal. The fact it’s even pedestrian impact compliant is already very commendable tau tak?
April 16, 2009 @ 10:10 pm
1st of all i want congrat proton launch a new proton car. nice but i dont know how is a quality ? i lost confidence because use the proton car before, i hope this time really can fight with others car like toyota. Economic was going down is it a good time proton launch now? anyway i hope our country automobil industries business can develop and going up. proton exora make different with another proton car, start from beginning and hope proton can ‘fight untill no blood’ in car market..u can do it.
April 16, 2009 @ 10:12 pm
klu x suke proton jgn bace laaa…
komen2 lebey2 plak.
nak sgt WISH AVANZA ALPHARD pape je bli laaa..
sibuk2 je kat website nii…..
g la bace website toyota ke honda ke hyundai ke kia ke
x payah la bace al kisah proton MPV ni.. klu nak bash lebih2…
sibuk jee…
xde pun sape2 jemput bace…x malu btol..
April 16, 2009 @ 10:14 pm
[quote comment="230725"]this website is full of proton people posting comments on how “good” their car apparently is. if this awful car is good, then a toyota alphard has to be just sheer mpv pleasure.[/quote]
Toyota Alphard is a different class… I mean not by different in body type class but the other class… Like a Perodua and a mercedes… So no need to compare Exora and Alphard coz that’s two different prices…
April 16, 2009 @ 10:31 pm
for those who complain about proton entirely have to think carefully….i m a material engineer at proton sub company….this company is also producing or rather cut blank sheet for toyota and perodua….as ya ll complainerss didnt know, toyota is using a cheap, thin and noncoated metal for their inner and outer panel..their metal supplier is from local company…while proton is using a thick, expensive and some coated material and most of the supplier is from japan and korea….so if you want to complain or talk bad about proton please make sure you have a brain…..
April 16, 2009 @ 10:33 pm
Aiyah.. 1.6 underpower maahh,,
kenapa tak letak enjin lori 16 tayar terus.. ??
April 16, 2009 @ 10:37 pm
walaupun aku tak pakai proton disebabkan crita2 lama tapi aku berbangga dengan proton perusahaan anak2 malaysia..syabas proton
mungkin satu hari nanti aku akan menggunakan proton..
April 16, 2009 @ 10:42 pm
[quote comment="230653"]Another model going to sell at least 20 years to recoup its investment in platform given the high R & D cost. Good luck to those who book the car, your next generation likely to buy the same car with facelift down the road – same thing happen to the freaking milo tin on the wheel Saga/Iswara.[/quote]
your comments really suits you name…. just minus the word “land”
April 16, 2009 @ 10:54 pm
bravo proton……….nice mpv…….great job
April 16, 2009 @ 11:04 pm
[quote comment="230744"]RM70k for this crap!!?
Dont be dumb people! this mpv shud be priced below 50k! We poor poor malaysian are forced to pay for the stupid tax which we dont deserve![/quote]
whats the problem with the tax that you are whining about?do you really think that if there is no Proton, car will be lot cheaper?the G’s will create a lot of excuse to maintain the car price to the same level whether there are Proton or not…stop whining la kiddo………….
April 16, 2009 @ 11:19 pm
i just visited the exora, looks not bad, but just my 2 cents that the front design looks like myvi, back view looks like innova
Anyway, proton did a great job!
April 16, 2009 @ 11:24 pm
[quote comment="230133"]“rakyat malaysia inginkan kenderaan yg mmpunyai performance like european cars, styling like japanese cars, dan harga malaysia.” -DSZ (during the launching presentation)
i think this mpv has full fill the requirements.
btw, i think the front grill has made proton founded their identity:][/quote]
the front grille is proton’s identity? haha i don’t know abt that
anyway i think beneath the skin is either a mitsubishi or toyota frame etc
there are only a few minor changes on the lights and interior
April 16, 2009 @ 11:29 pm
[quote comment="230545"]japanese car better..
berat la weih this MPV,bole daki bukit ker.[/quote]
Hahaha.. u remind me what’ve my mom tell me a couple years ago.. she said, when Proton’s introducing their 1st Saga in the 80’s, the first perseption of most malaysians was, “ada kualiti mcm keta jepun ke? kuat ke enjin tu? boleh naik bukit ke?”
I wonder, why this kind of mentality still exist in the 21st of century? Come on la bro, kalo x dpt naik bukit.. test mule Exora yg diaorg test hari-hari tu naik pokok ke?
April 16, 2009 @ 11:37 pm
[quote comment="230245"]Dear Paul? i just come back from Proton showroom(around 12am) the Exora really built in good quality and can fit 7 adult easily.
But i don’t agree the title for this article Proton Exora: Malaysian’s First MPV.
Everyone know that the Malaysian’s First MPV is Proton Juara, i think you need to study before you post the title.[/quote]
Liang : U think Mr PT stupid ?? I think ur comment makes u a DUMBASS !
April 16, 2009 @ 11:49 pm
[quote comment="230633"][quote comment="230626"]Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.
Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m’jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~
pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton
ada buat ke crash test ke tidak
sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu
tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata[/quote]
looks like some1 never watch crash test video b4[/quote]
Just spare his/her comment bro… maybe he’s dunno what the purpose of “crumple zone”.. just ignore thoose bashers…
pity him/her.. typical m’sian mentality..
April 17, 2009 @ 12:11 am
[quote comment="230057"]can this mpv will compete with perodua mpv? i dont think so.[/quote]
[quote comment="230744"]RM70k for this crap!!?
Dont be dumb people! this mpv shud be priced below 50k! We poor poor malaysian are forced to pay for the stupid tax which we dont deserve![/quote]
fu?k of your head la… harga mpv tu amat sesuai dengan kualiti.. ko nak camana lagi? ini bukan sebab org kita mampu beli atau tidak… tetapi orang mcm ko ni yang kedekut sgt ttp pandang buatan luar negara sahaja..
April 17, 2009 @ 12:13 am
wahhh..so malaysian car..got hook to gantung teh tarik and so on….nice2…
April 17, 2009 @ 12:23 am
i’m first
April 17, 2009 @ 12:33 am
u know whats funny about malaysian mentality? i have one friend who argued that avanza is better coz it’s “imported”. yes, thats his argument. my jaw literally dropped.
i don’t even bother explaining anything to him after that. lol
April 17, 2009 @ 12:48 am
[quote comment="230595"]just came back frm the showroom.
Not yet available for test drive so it’s difficult to judge the power of the car.
I guess it will be abit underpowered.
But still, i tried all 3 rows of seats, all very comfortable. I’m 1.78m tall.
Interior very well designed, switches have abit of feel to them compared to persona.
Sometimes, i read all the comments frm bashers, i feel really sad.
Not all of us are well off to get whatever cars we want. If i can afford it, i will most prolly juz keep quiet instead of complaining about other cars.
It’s like complaining about other ppls wife not being beautiful or sexy enough. Hey, if we all have a choice, we all want supermodels as a wife and driving around in a ferrari. But how many of us have?
Nobody is pointing a gun at our heads forcing us to take a bank loan to buy a proton. Hell some can’t even get a loan approved for a proton!!
Bottom line is this, everyone have their own budgets for tranport, some can afford foreign makes and some could not. There’s no need to come in here and tell everone how lousy proton is just to make ppl who own a proton feel bad. I love my proton, but an honest opinion, i hate the service centre staffs!!
I myself currently drive a persona, it’s a good car. Not great in anyway but good. Upgraded frm my 8 year old iswara. hehehe
Maybe one day i can afford other cars but hey, iswara -> persona already considered an upgrade rite?
Congrats to proton!![/quote]
Spot on, Hanz
There’s an old saying: You pays your money, you takes your choice
April 17, 2009 @ 2:26 am
I went to see the car today at the A&W Lake Garden, Seremban. The car look great especially the interior, looks spacious in comparison to Nissan Grand Livina… I like the seats, they are comfortable and looks nice. However, they still have gap issue… can be seen quite obviously for the engine cover/hood, almost 1 cm gap from the body. The QC Manager should have address the issue before allowing the product to come out of the factory. Other than that, it is an impressive product. Well done Proton.
April 17, 2009 @ 3:35 am
[quote comment="230803"][quote comment="230133"]“rakyat malaysia inginkan kenderaan yg mmpunyai performance like european cars, styling like japanese cars, dan harga malaysia.” -DSZ (during the launching presentation)
i think this mpv has full fill the requirements.
btw, i think the front grill has made proton founded their identity:][/quote]
the front grille is proton’s identity? haha i don’t know abt that
anyway i think beneath the skin is either a mitsubishi or toyota frame etc
there are only a few minor changes on the lights and interior[/quote]
Can provide proof please? If not you will just look plain stupid.
April 17, 2009 @ 3:44 am
lawa la tu..boleh lah tu..macam wish apa…
April 17, 2009 @ 3:54 am
lagi satu…aku pekerja kelas bawahan…kewangan hanya cukup makan…tak arif pasai bab kereta ni..lepas baca komen pakar pakar sekalian…ada 2 soalan,
1.. adakah sistem kenderaan kita terlalu membebankan rakyat pasal setiap kali ada proton ada pasal cukai sekaligus..
2.. sekiranya betul betul parah sekali, bukankah kita patut boikotnya? kenapa ada yang terus jadi buta?
i ni ilmu cetek jer..harap jgn marah dengan persoalan i..cuma saya dah jemu jadi miskin..miskin pasal sendiri takpe..ni pasal dirompak terang terang…
April 17, 2009 @ 5:05 am
really impressive proton
now MPV like avanza , citra rondo , grand livina even innova are in trouble to sell .
livina samller in size but high in price maaa.
AVANZA gone case !!
April 17, 2009 @ 7:19 am
biasa saja.
April 17, 2009 @ 8:03 am
buy this car and get free teh tarik….
nice…
April 17, 2009 @ 8:33 am
[quote comment="230113"]What a weird kinda photo, Teh tarik? Still not fully developed locally, another Korean product.[/quote]
it’s 100% made in malaysia for malaysian. no connection whatsoever with korea. it’s the first p1 product with the ‘made in malaysia’ seal.
April 17, 2009 @ 8:47 am
Tahniah kpd Proton?
Exora memang gempak.
syukur pada Allah krn Malaysia telah berjaya mengeluarkan sebuah MPV yg grand 1st class punye..
besaq pn besaq..
lawa pn lawa..
jom semua rakyat Malaysia g tgk kat showroom anda yg terdekat.
sokonglh produk Malaysia.
;O )
April 17, 2009 @ 8:59 am
[quote comment="230918"]lagi satu…aku pekerja kelas bawahan…kewangan hanya cukup makan…tak arif pasai bab kereta ni..lepas baca komen pakar pakar sekalian…ada 2 soalan,
1.. adakah sistem kenderaan kita terlalu membebankan rakyat pasal setiap kali ada proton ada pasal cukai sekaligus..
2.. sekiranya betul betul parah sekali, bukankah kita patut boikotnya? kenapa ada yang terus jadi buta?
i ni ilmu cetek jer..harap jgn marah dengan persoalan i..cuma saya dah jemu jadi miskin..miskin pasal sendiri takpe..ni pasal dirompak terang terang…[/quote]
Tengok & dgr boleh la proton nih, nak beli tolong pikir 1000 kali. Dalam video semua cantik semua ok…realiti ? huh
Lagi baik tunggu dan lihat, lihat pengalaman org yg beli exora…jgn dgr ckp salesman…hu hu hu
Jgn dgr cakap perompak wang rakyat…huh
April 17, 2009 @ 9:07 am
this MPV cannot seat seven adults “comfortably” as claimed by proton.
it is the same category as kia caren as far as seats are concerned. I seated at the back seat for 5 minutes and it was so uncomfortable and my waist and knees started to give way. Mind you i am just 5′ 3” and weigh 60 kg. It cannot even beat avanza for 7 seater. the rest is ok, just wait for a few months to see if there is any major problems.
April 17, 2009 @ 9:14 am
[quote comment="230960"][quote comment="230918"]lagi satu…aku pekerja kelas bawahan…kewangan hanya cukup makan…tak arif pasai bab kereta ni..lepas baca komen pakar pakar sekalian…ada 2 soalan,
1.. adakah sistem kenderaan kita terlalu membebankan rakyat pasal setiap kali ada proton ada pasal cukai sekaligus..
2.. sekiranya betul betul parah sekali, bukankah kita patut boikotnya? kenapa ada yang terus jadi buta?
i ni ilmu cetek jer..harap jgn marah dengan persoalan i..cuma saya dah jemu jadi miskin..miskin pasal sendiri takpe..ni pasal dirompak terang terang…[/quote]
Tengok & dgr boleh la proton nih, nak beli tolong pikir 1000 kali. Dalam video semua cantik semua ok…realiti ? huh
Lagi baik tunggu dan lihat, lihat pengalaman org yg beli exora…jgn dgr ckp salesman…hu hu hu
Jgn dgr cakap perompak wang rakyat…huh[/quote]
Sikap yg mcm ni la sebenarnya yg membuatkan Malaysia berada tahap sekarang. Macam mana nak maju. Aku rasa orang2 macam ni yg sebenarnya keje kat vendor2 Proton, tu yang Proton takleh nk kuarkan kete yang the best. Cubalah orang M’sia ni ubah sikap sket, think positive. Asyik pikir negative mana tak sume benda jadi negative?
April 17, 2009 @ 9:37 am
First!
April 17, 2009 @ 9:44 am
[quote comment="230918"]lagi satu…aku pekerja kelas bawahan…kewangan hanya cukup makan…tak arif pasai bab kereta ni..lepas baca komen pakar pakar sekalian…ada 2 soalan,
1.. adakah sistem kenderaan kita terlalu membebankan rakyat pasal setiap kali ada proton ada pasal cukai sekaligus..
2.. sekiranya betul betul parah sekali, bukankah kita patut boikotnya? kenapa ada yang terus jadi buta?
i ni ilmu cetek jer..harap jgn marah dengan persoalan i..cuma saya dah jemu jadi miskin..miskin pasal sendiri takpe..ni pasal dirompak terang terang…[/quote]
haih sigh, saya mencadangkan agar anda melabur kepada pendidikan kewangan (financial education) anda. Encik boleh pergi ke kedai MPH dan mencari buku-buku yang mengajar anda tentang cara untuk buat duit secara halal dan sah. Antara yang saya suka ialah buku “Rich Dad, Poor Dad” (versi bahasa malaysia pun ada) oleh Robert Kiyosaki, tapi buku ini macam setakat permulaan, setakat hendak menerangkan konsep. Yang betul-betul punya boleh ajar tu banyak, tapi cuba cari buku-buku yang ditulis oleh Adam Khoo, jutawan termuda warga Singapura (dia menjadi jutawan masa dia 26). Tapi bagi saya, lebih baik memulakan dgn Rich Dad Poor Dad dulu untuk memahami asas-asas tentang duit.
Untuk menjawab soalan anda,
1. Tidak semestinya. Bersyukurlah sekurang-kurangnya kita ada syarikat kereta sendiri. Beli kereta di Singapura lebih mahal, tapi mereka tak ada kereta nasional sendiri. Ada banyak hujah yang membangkang argumen ini, cukuplah saya katakan yang orang ni tak berani “practice what they preach”. Kalau Singapura ni memang senang nak beli kereta, kenapa mereka tak cuba pergi ke sana, kerja di sana dan beli kereta di sana?
Apa yang saya cuba katakan ialah masalahnya tidak terletak di luaran. Masalahnya di dalaman kita. Orang boleh cerita sampai berbuih mulut tentang cukai, kerajaan, dan segala-galanya, tapi mengapa sesetengah orang masih boleh berjaya di dalam situasi sebegini? Mengapa pula Amerika, kuasa ekonomi terkuat dunia boleh menghadapi krisis kewangan yang telah menyebabkan ramai rakyat mereka kehilangan rumah dan terpaksa merempat di tepi jalan? Itu kerana orang yang sukses berfikir secara lain. Kita harus belajar dari mereka, dan bersyukurlah orang macam Robert Kiyosaki dan Adam Khoo sanggup kongsikan rahsia kejayaan mereka kepada semua orang untuk dibaca. Harap-harap anda berfikiran terbuka untuk mengubah hidup anda.
2. Soichiro Honda, orang yang memulakan syarikat Honda pernah berkata “sukses itu adalah 99 peratus kegagalan”. Hari ini kita melihat Honda sangat berjaya, tapi bayangkanlah: kalau kejayaan mereka sekarang ini hanya 1 peratus, bagaimana pula kegagalan mereka? Kite hanya tutup sebelah mata bila sampai ke isu ini pula.
Maksudnya Honda telah gagal jauh lagi banyak daripada apa yang Proton sedang hadapi. Tapi yang pentingnya, Proton harus tahan menghadapi cabaran semua ini. Proton harus terus maju ke hadapan, tetapi mereka memerlukan sokongan kami terutamanya!!
Macam bayi yang sedang belajar hendak berjalan, kita maki bayi tu bodoh ke atau kita beri sokongan agar bayi itu berdiri semula dan mencuba lagi? Orang Jepun memilih untuk menyorak memberi dorongan, orang kite pula…… sebab itu lah orang Jepun lagi maju dari kite. Kemajuan sesebuah negara itu terletak di mentaliti orangnya.
Kita harus berubah, siapa yang tidak pernah buat kesilapan? Percayalah di dalam kemampuan Proton yang percaya dalam kemampuan kita. Pengurus direktornya (err… is Managing Director translate to this? why sound so wrong one hehehe) Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin telah bekerja kuat sejak dia mengambil jawatan itu 4 tahun lalu untuk meningkatkan qualiti Proton, dan hasilnya jelas ternampak di dalam model-model baru macam Persona dan Saga baru, yang mana semakin susah untuk mendengar cerita daripada pemilik mereka merungut tentang qualiti kenderaan mereka.
Ayuh kita merealisasikan slogan Malaysia Boleh dengan sebenar-benarnya. Proton boleh!! Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin boleh!! Exora boleh!!
April 17, 2009 @ 9:44 am
[quote comment="230667"]
Bro,
How’s the seat size ? How’s the thigh support ?[/quote]
Front seat, adult ok.
Middle row seat, adult ok.
Back seat, adult ok, but the leg will be positioned higher than those of front&middle row seat.
by thigh support, do u mean whether the thigh of the 3rd row will be placed like 1st & 2nd row?
if yes, then i would say the support is minimal for adult. however the seat size is ok for adult. just the height of the seat from the chassis is different
from 1st & 2nd row.
[quote comment="230711"]
Dahla tu…penat je ko taip panjang2..entah si P1 basher ni faham ke tidak..
[/quote]
penat mmg penat Bro. tp aku harap lps baca komen aku tu yg panjang cm esei upsr darjah 6 tu, dia boleh faham. nextime kalu org tanya dia psl crash test, tin milo steel, heavy door atau active safety dia boleh jawab.
aku dulu pn xske gak ngn proton. wira bapak aku power window pn dh ada 4kali rosak, meter distance putus etc. time tu mak aku nk beli gen2, mmg aku xsetuju gila2 la.
tp…
lps mak aku beli gen2, aku la yg pakai kete tu mcm aku punya.
interior design cantik,
exterior ada shape &
yg plg aku ske handling dia!
aku ni dh smpi stage malas dh nk “fire” atau “laser” org.
senang je: “U dh try ka? kalu blum try, g try la. jgn tabur fitnah bai”
hehehe~
[quote comment="230918"]
1.. adakah sistem kenderaan kita terlalu membebankan rakyat pasal setiap kali ada proton ada pasal cukai sekaligus..
2.. sekiranya betul betul parah sekali, bukankah kita patut boikotnya? kenapa ada yang terus jadi buta?
i ni ilmu cetek jer..harap jgn marah dengan persoalan i..cuma saya dah jemu jadi miskin..miskin pasal sendiri takpe..ni pasal dirompak terang terang…[/quote]
aku pn xarif sgt psl economy or legislation. so aku xkn bincang sgt bende2 gini dlm web psl kete. kn cm “lari drp topik”?
1. dlm dunia ada up&down, good&bad, hi-tax&low-tax.
cuba kita pk.
gomen dpt $ drp tax.
kalu proton xde, agak2 kete import tax ble kurang?
mesti xkn kurangnye. gile ape gomen nk kurangkn punca $ diorg.
silap2 haribulan lg tinggi tax dia sbb nk compensate/cover hasil tax yg dulu diorg dpt drp proton.
dgn ada proton&perodua, rakyat ada pilihan utk kete yg agak tidak mahal.
sapa ada byk $, bli la kete mahal.
sapa ada cket $, bli la kete murah.
sapa ada $ cket2, bli la kete yg lg murah.
ikut poket la beb.
kalu nk kete mewah tp xcukup $, jgn la bising2.
umpamanye “xpandai menari dikatanye lantai jongkang-jongket”.
2. betul, kalu parah, kita boikot.
dlm berforum ni ada yg supporter, basher, neutral.
basher akn kata parah
supporter akn kata ok
neutral akn teliti basher&supporter ckp ape.
kena rompak terang2 tu kita kena study detail cket.
agak2nye harga 1 kete berapa?
bape byk kete dh terjual?
berbaloi ke beli kete (drp segi keselamatan)?
berapa untung 1 kete company mark up?
April 17, 2009 @ 9:46 am
[quote comment="230481"]3rd) The so-call tax we paid to G for buying Japanese car, where does it go? Inside their pocket? Considering: the road tax we paid is not cheap, and almost anywhere we drive on the road also need to paid toll?[/quote]
RM 6billion utk suntikan ransangan EKONOMI tu dtg dari mana? org jepun ke yg bagi sebab org Malaysia rajin sgt support barangan diaorg? tanya sikit boleh? berapa byk tax yg ko bayar tiap-tiap thn?? kalo dikumpul dlm 10thn tax yg ko bayar, dpt beli motorsikal dlm “cash term” tak?
April 17, 2009 @ 9:46 am
Good start for a new segment. However proton being proton that we know, the biggest letdown has always been the quality of materials used and the finishing that kills the product. Case in point waja. It was given the thumbs up by most auto journalist but after 2 years of production most of the owners are complaining. The infamous proton power window which TM said they have redesigned but fails on all the wajas within the warranty period! You can have the best design but by using inferior quality materials quick failure is a guarantee. So let’s hope they use better quality materials, even Toy0t@ suffer from quality issues in the vios. Nuf said!
April 17, 2009 @ 9:50 am
just imppressed with Dato Zainal presentation.. the mpv??
April 17, 2009 @ 9:51 am
[quote comment="230953"][quote comment="230113"]What a weird kinda photo, Teh tarik? Still not fully developed locally, another Korean product.[/quote]
it’s 100% made in malaysia for malaysian. no connection whatsoever with korea. it’s the first p1 product with the ‘made in malaysia’ seal.[/quote]
wouldn’t said that tbh…
well korean company is the consultant of this MPV project… most ppl know abt this actually…
but i can assure you.. THIS IS NOT A KOREAN PRODUCT, IT IS A MALAYSIAN PRODUCT….
^.^ proud to be malaysian ^.^
April 17, 2009 @ 9:56 am
[quote comment="230832"][quote comment="230633"][quote comment="230626"]Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.
Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m’jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~
pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton
ada buat ke crash test ke tidak
sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu
tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata[/quote]
looks like some1 never watch crash test video b4[/quote]
Just spare his/her comment bro… maybe he’s dunno what the purpose of “crumple zone”.. just ignore thoose bashers…
pity him/her.. typical m’sian mentality..
[/quote]
The Crash Test 1 is based on 35km/h at it’s speed already crash like this
how about at a higher speed for 80km/h??? U always drive slow like 35km/h meh~
For the crash test footage at a speed of 56km/h the moving tyre that moved backword to the cockpit already makes a threat to the driver and passenger.
But still, I must mention for how safe a car it is, if u drive at high speed and bang, u’ll sure die. This is what I’m want to emphasize, haiyar~ u guys cannot even accept other people’s comment, somemore call ” stupid” la, apa lah, apalah. C’mon, u must accept and listen to others people comment, P1 will always be a KAMPUNG CHAMPION it’s because u these stupid loyalty supporters even P1 did something wrong and will still accept it,~~~WAIT did I say STUPID, sorry about that.
BTW, the design of the headlamp isn’t that beautiful like DSZ said Japanese design, and the side mirror is just an expansion set from Saga BLM’s side mirror.
PEACE~~~
April 17, 2009 @ 10:01 am
I visit the showroom yesterday. And this is my wife point of view:
Exora got generous equipment. The seats are fabulously large and comfortable (for a seven seater). The plastics seems fine for the price. Plenty of cupholder and storage spaces. The air cond vent is a very good (not available in Wish). The rear seat folder mechanism works fine and relatively easy. But the designer of the exterior choose safe approach (as compared to Citroen Picasso). The moment you’re in the car it feels like a blown up Saga. Nissan GL interior (the high grade – 1.8) feels very good (and luxurious) compared to H-Line (and this may be due to its colour choice). Grey for seat and door trim looks el-cheapo where black Persona works fine for her. Maybe for the 1.8 GEMA engine they will put different colour scheme (like PRIME concept and that is really nice). The DVD is fine, but the case for the player looks like petaling street (or cheapskate China) sourced product, unlike Proton standard (which normally use Blupunkt, Clarion, Sony or Kenwood which is very good compared to Perodua’s Betamek/x WTF??). The gear knob and slots works really well and strangely look like Wish (Azlano is wish ower, remember?).
I tend to agree with her as she is the 1st finance minister and she will be the driver for most of the time. We decided to hold back our purchase as we havnt got the slot for test drive but I strongly believe 1.6 CPS is good enough as my sister in law bought the Satria CPS (mind you, they drive a V6, E230 and Rexton, got a 1.3 mil bungalow and the Satria is their favorite daily commute car) and the CPS works really well. Strangely, the colour they chose for Exora interior seems to make it look cheaper but the grain (surface finish) for the IP is ok, maybe not for the door trim. Maybe the hot weather here create the decision for the designer, but esthetically it seems like a small disaster to me personally as an ex-industry staff. The equipment is really generous and all the tray and tools are in better compartment and design these days. Thumbs up for the effort but minor improvement is required to compete beyond ASEAN. This car is definitely an ASEAN winner.
April 17, 2009 @ 10:11 am
[quote comment="230993"]
The Crash Test 1 is based on 35km/h at it’s speed already crash like this
how about at a higher speed for 80km/h??? U always drive slow like 35km/h meh~
For the crash test footage at a speed of 56km/h the moving tyre that moved backword to the cockpit already makes a threat to the driver and passenger.
But still, I must mention for how safe a car it is, if u drive at high speed and bang, u’ll sure die. This is what I’m want to emphasize, haiyar~ u guys cannot even accept other people’s comment, somemore call ” stupid” la, apa lah, apalah. C’mon, u must accept and listen to others people comment, P1 will always be a KAMPUNG CHAMPION it’s because u these stupid loyalty supporters even P1 did something wrong and will still accept it,~~~WAIT did I say STUPID, sorry about that.
BTW, the design of the headlamp isn’t that beautiful like DSZ said Japanese design, and the side mirror is just an expansion set from Saga BLM’s side mirror.
PEACE~~~[/quote]
Kalo ko langgar dinding keras yg tidak berganjak sedikit pun dlm kelajuan 35km/j(test crash), bagaimana rasa impak dia? siapa yg serap impak? itulah kegunaan “crumple zone”
walaupun ko driving 80km/j tapi langgar benda yg sama berat yakni sebuah kereta.. ko rasa kereta yg ko langgar tu akan berganjak ataupun tidak berganjak dan kekal disitu mcm dinding crash test? mesti berganjak kan? dan impak kelajuan akan diserap oleh crumple zone kedua-dua kereta dan itu akan menjadikan impak hentakan terbahagi menjadi setengah.
Langgar dinding yg tidak berganjak dan langgar benda yg boleh berganjak lain momentumnya bai…
p/s: ko pernah tgk keta Ferrari Enzo putus dua dlm youtube tak?
April 17, 2009 @ 10:15 am
[quote comment="230993"]
The Crash Test 1 is based on 35km/h at it’s speed already crash like this
how about at a higher speed for 80km/h??? U always drive slow like 35km/h meh~
For the crash test footage at a speed of 56km/h the moving tyre that moved backword to the cockpit already makes a threat to the driver and passenger.
PEACE~~~[/quote]
at least IT IS NCAP COMPLIANT. so that is the NCAP REQUIREMENT.
we are talking about COMPLIANT & REQUIREMENT,NOT IF THIS or IF THAT.
if u’re driving at 110km/h, then slam the brake hardly,
given all the system functioning, u can achieved that minimal speed.
the speed laid by the requirement simulate the speed of the car after hardbraking, where it is maybe taken from survey.
if i were in this crash test regulation committee, i would have the previlage to ask “why 35km/h not 80km/h?”.
since i’m not, so i better stick to the outlined rule.
anyhow…is there any sane person will slam his car at high speed?
April 17, 2009 @ 10:20 am
[quote comment="230960"][quote comment="230918"]lagi satu…aku pekerja kelas bawahan…kewangan hanya cukup makan…tak arif pasai bab kereta ni..lepas baca komen pakar pakar sekalian…ada 2 soalan,
1.. adakah sistem kenderaan kita terlalu membebankan rakyat pasal setiap kali ada proton ada pasal cukai sekaligus..
2.. sekiranya betul betul parah sekali, bukankah kita patut boikotnya? kenapa ada yang terus jadi buta?
i ni ilmu cetek jer..harap jgn marah dengan persoalan i..cuma saya dah jemu jadi miskin..miskin pasal sendiri takpe..ni pasal dirompak terang terang…[/quote]
Tengok & dgr boleh la proton nih, nak beli tolong pikir 1000 kali. Dalam video semua cantik semua ok…realiti ? huh
Lagi baik tunggu dan lihat, lihat pengalaman org yg beli exora…jgn dgr ckp salesman…hu hu hu
Jgn dgr cakap perompak wang rakyat…huh[/quote]
If only you guys stop watching P Ramlee movies, and start study engineering, then you can get whatever technology you wish for..
April 17, 2009 @ 10:22 am
Bravo PROTON!
April 17, 2009 @ 10:30 am
lol, the key seems to be similar to the wave blade keys of honda.. haha..
April 17, 2009 @ 10:38 am
Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and “Malaysian price”.
Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don’t know maths!!
Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don’t even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.
Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.
DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his “BMW of Asia” also many were hero-worship him, somemore won “CEO of the Year”. Hehe, what happen now?
April 17, 2009 @ 10:39 am
[quote comment="230968"][quote comment="230960"][quote comment="230918"]lagi satu…aku pekerja kelas bawahan…kewangan hanya cukup makan…tak arif pasai bab kereta ni..lepas baca komen pakar pakar sekalian…ada 2 soalan,
1.. adakah sistem kenderaan kita terlalu membebankan rakyat pasal setiap kali ada proton ada pasal cukai sekaligus..
2.. sekiranya betul betul parah sekali, bukankah kita patut boikotnya? kenapa ada yang terus jadi buta?
i ni ilmu cetek jer..harap jgn marah dengan persoalan i..cuma saya dah jemu jadi miskin..miskin pasal sendiri takpe..ni pasal dirompak terang terang…[/quote]
Tengok & dgr boleh la proton nih, nak beli tolong pikir 1000 kali. Dalam video semua cantik semua ok…realiti ? huh
Lagi baik tunggu dan lihat, lihat pengalaman org yg beli exora…jgn dgr ckp salesman…hu hu hu
Jgn dgr cakap perompak wang rakyat…huh[/quote]
Sikap yg mcm ni la sebenarnya yg membuatkan Malaysia berada tahap sekarang. Macam mana nak maju. Aku rasa orang2 macam ni yg sebenarnya keje kat vendor2 Proton, tu yang Proton takleh nk kuarkan kete yang the best. Cubalah orang M’sia ni ubah sikap sket, think positive. Asyik pikir negative mana tak sume benda jadi negative?[/quote]
Kalau cakap tentang susah, semua orang pun susah gak, kalau cakap miskin, semua orang miskin jugak, cuma beza daiorang dua nia adalah miskin syukur dengan kata lain kufur nikmat. Kita terlalu mengkaji G kita rompak duit rakyat tapi kita sedar yang kita serahkan duit kita bulat2 secara sukarela kepada lanun luar yang jual barang secara tipu. Aku dah penat nak ulang tapi kena ulang jugak. Kereta luar import masuk dengan kurangkan kualiti sebanyak 20% hingga 30% tapi masih dijual harga yang sama sebelum tax. kita tak nampak sebab kita kabur mata memuja lanun tu sampai ada barangan yang bermutu dari dalam negara dikatakan mahal padahal kualiti meterial telah improve. Aku pengguna proton sepanjang hayat. Bermula dari iswara, savvy & akan datang Exora. Aku boleh tengok peningkatan kualiti produk Proton. Tak dinafikan proton pernah berada dalam zaman kegelapan. Tapi sekarang Proton dah bangun. Bukti dah ada. DSZ dah janji akan beri penelitian atas pekara ini. Sekarang terpulang kepada rakyat malaysia samada nak jadi MALAYSIA atau jadi Malasiya. Satu lagi, kalau proton berjaya berapa banyak peluang pekerjaan akan terbuka lagi dalam keadaan ekonomi sekarang. Ingat sini, menyediakan pekerjaan itu adalah satu pahala, bekerja dengan ikhlas, rajin & jujur juga pahala. Haih sign, peluang buat duit kat malaysia nie besar. Terbukti yang pendatang tanpa izin sanggup datang balik ke malaysia walaupun dah dihantar pulang. Jangan kita Kufur Nikmat.
April 17, 2009 @ 10:42 am
[quote comment="231002"]
If only you guys stop watching P Ramlee movies, and start study engineering, then you can get whatever technology you wish for..[/quote]
not true..u can watch p.ramlee’s movies & study engineering like i did.
in fact, p.ramlee’s movies are somehow bring good message, such as:
“dia punya nasib, dia mkn.
awak punya nasib, awak mkn.
apa salah kita mkn sama2?”
-seniman bujang lapok, jaga singh sound mamat yg xpuas hati sbb 3bujanglapok nk audition jd pelakon. mamat tu expect dia lg ensem so layak jd pelakon.
April 17, 2009 @ 11:07 am
Personally, I think, a lot of people impressed with the interior and the BCM fitted to this Lady Exora (for sure, I’m one of them, again Congratulation to Proton).
But at the same time, to my opinion, a lot of people reluctant (to buy) because of the fact of 1.6 Campro CPS.
Base on Paul’s test drive review (don’t have the opportunity to test drive yet), I feel that driving Exora feel exactly like driving Wira 1.3 ( I mentioned this earlier under the Exora test drive review), believe me how that feel, I owned one). And now, the actual weight was more that 1.4 tonne!
It is safe to say that, people just don’t have the confident. Regardless of what the promotions say. And they don’t even bothered to test drive to find out the truth.
So, Proton, please work fast to improve (further) the performance. I strongly confident if this lady fitted with turbocharged 1.6 CPS, Electric Power Steering, Air cond. that cut out during hard acceleration, etc…more Malaysian has more confident to own one (including me), even if the price RM5 – 7K more!
I believe, the above suggestions are within Proton reach in very near future…
April 17, 2009 @ 11:19 am
[quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and “Malaysian price”.
Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don’t know maths!!
Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don’t even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.
Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.
DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his “BMW of Asia” also many were hero-worship him, somemore won “CEO of the Year”. Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]
Beng ah,
I dont want to pay GST 7% for my chicken rice, pecking duck, chilli crab and groceries, I dont want to bid COE for my car, and I dont want to pay more than 45% of income tax to govt. So with that, i dont mind paying RM 10K more (approx) for vehicle price (when compared around ASEAN). In your wettest, wildest dream should govt remove the tax, Honda or Toyota will reduce theirs as per Langkawi price (and you still can get more than 3 years HP, with low interest – banks will definitely wants to make money). I know UMWT, I know the profit margin, and you may find my name on the excise sheet (brown colour paper) if you import one to Langkawi/Labuan. Understand the business model, the spare part, the service rates and the TOC before purging stuff.
DSZ is Toyota trained guy, not ex Shell employee and he is very well verse in operation. He can recite the 5S values better then you and he definitely understand by heart the 7 types of MUDA and practice the Toyota Way values in his management (Respect for people & Continuous Improvement). He Gemba’s a lot and Genchi Genbutsu is his nature, he seems to prefer Heijunka with multiple colours rather then massive production numbers and the design team seams to understand Jidoka from the start. And I personally believe he is not an ex-rally driver, so he is fine.
April 17, 2009 @ 11:20 am
Congrate to Proton for the 1st MPV … Hope it won’t give problem later (after 3 months) like other Proton Model. Can consider to sell my Avanza
Need test drive first before deposit for the Exora 
April 17, 2009 @ 11:22 am
[quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and “Malaysian price”.
Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don’t know maths!!
Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don’t even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.
Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.
DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his “BMW of Asia” also many were hero-worship him, somemore won “CEO of the Year”. Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]
How about u became CEO of proton. Since u know alot of things.
April 17, 2009 @ 11:24 am
[quote comment="231010"]lol, the key seems to be similar to the wave blade keys of honda.. haha..[/quote]
You dreaming ? You pernah nampak wave key kah ?
April 17, 2009 @ 11:29 am
[quote comment="230990"][quote comment="230953"][quote comment="230113"]What a weird kinda photo, Teh tarik? Still not fully developed locally, another Korean product.[/quote]
it’s 100% made in malaysia for malaysian. no connection whatsoever with korea. it’s the first p1 product with the ‘made in malaysia’ seal.[/quote]
wouldn’t said that tbh…
well korean company is the consultant of this MPV project… most ppl know abt this actually…
but i can assure you.. THIS IS NOT A KOREAN PRODUCT, IT IS A MALAYSIAN PRODUCT….
^.^ proud to be malaysian ^.^[/quote]
And, tuan tuan and puan puan sekalian, negeri China adalah supplier untuk BCM ! Tahniah ! ABS modula, air bag sensor dari negeri Korea ! Tahniah, ramai rakan kongsi dalam pengembangan industri kenderaan. Wassalam.
April 17, 2009 @ 11:34 am
[quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and “Malaysian price”.
Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don’t know maths!!
Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don’t even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.
Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.
DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his “BMW of Asia” also many were hero-worship him, somemore won “CEO of the Year”. Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]
not_ah_beng ooo…… you need to know more than just maths…. that is reality of this world… especially in business…
if only maths aaa.. even those 6/7 years old kid can explain why 1+1 = 2… but when you go into business/ economy point of view… 1+1 is not always 2… it can be sumthing that can’t be explain by maths… and if you even hear about the explanation it might even turn ur world upside down… =p
April 17, 2009 @ 11:34 am
Wah 400 over comment ar? paul do u hv enough hard disk for this?
Overall d mpv is very attractive to d eyes but i will hold my money 1st
for few months to see any complains bout it. I still remember p1 history
with their new design cars with all sorts of problem. Also in the sametime
can wait for d p2 mpv as another choice.
April 17, 2009 @ 11:43 am
WOW…
i love this car…
it’s like slightly larger than innova…
just a little lower….
and the price is bout 20k diffrence!
i’m going to go to the showroom and check it out…
heh…^^….
April 17, 2009 @ 11:47 am
any problem with that?? so if malaysian factory supply sensor @ chip for BMW car issit any diff with that?
April 17, 2009 @ 12:00 pm
[quote comment="231037"]
And, tuan tuan and puan puan sekalian, negeri China adalah supplier untuk BCM ! Tahniah ! ABS modula, air bag sensor dari negeri Korea ! Tahniah, ramai rakan kongsi dalam pengembangan industri kenderaan. Wassalam.[/quote]
hmm…agak2nye berapa % yg product malaysia?
Bro. movement quartz jam jenama Seiko pn buat kt My tau.
April 17, 2009 @ 12:05 pm
[quote comment="231043"]any problem with that?? so if malaysian factory supply sensor @ chip for BMW car issit any diff with that?[/quote]
aku rasa ramai sgt org bodoh la. kilang Infeneon tuh kat Batam ada, Melaka ada Kulim ada supply BMW, VW component diorang tak pening plak? tak kisah la dari mana, as long as ada spec. Ko ingt Toyota punya barang dari Denso pernah dia tulis Denso mana? Ada China, ada Indon, ada Siam, ada Bangi. selagi barang tuh Denso oklah. apa bebal la diorang nih. Jgn beli la TV Sony sbb buat kat Bangi, bukan Jepun. Bakatare!
April 17, 2009 @ 12:10 pm
haiya, i d0nt understand the pr0t0n bashers la……if d0nt want t0 buy, then d0nt buy, why bising2 kat sini…haiya….
April 17, 2009 @ 12:11 pm
Wow…a great car has arrive to the proton showroom…nice job P1..
April 17, 2009 @ 12:16 pm
[quote comment="231038"][quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and “Malaysian price”.
Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don’t know maths!!
Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don’t even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.
Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.
DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his “BMW of Asia” also many were hero-worship him, somemore won “CEO of the Year”. Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]
I think the question is who is idiot? u or him?
syed zainal is a ceo of GLC in this country?
u r a low life retarded mindf*ck person who just like to complain without any evidence..
u talk like we never heard the car tax? what? r u retarded person?
ur IQ must be below 30 right?
Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and “Malaysian price”.
this statement is so true to our typical malaysians.. ( not like u , because u kinda a retard )
April 17, 2009 @ 12:18 pm
[quote comment="231050"][quote comment="231037"]
And, tuan tuan and puan puan sekalian, negeri China adalah supplier untuk BCM ! Tahniah ! ABS modula, air bag sensor dari negeri Korea ! Tahniah, ramai rakan kongsi dalam pengembangan industri kenderaan. Wassalam.[/quote]
hmm…agak2nye berapa % yg product malaysia?
Bro. movement quartz jam jenama Seiko pn buat kt My tau.[/quote]
Biar le si luncai terjun ngan labu2nya. kita tak rugi pun. Yang rugi ialah rakyat malaysia yang tau bersukur dengan apa yang ada.
April 17, 2009 @ 12:19 pm
yaa..very cunn.. i like internal, external but…power???
with campro cps, same with neo…but that neo weight only 1212 kg, exora 1422…hmm so imagine neo with 3 person..big belly 70kg..
exora 1.6 campro cps, try you all imagine driver + 2 passenger with average 60 kg/each, so total 1602 kg…How this CPS wanna drag to bukit tinggi genting..hmmmm…
i think i will wait for perodua mpv…1.5 with weight around 1190 kg…it nearly to satria neo….
…imagine add 3 person 60kg/each, so total 1370 kg…
lower than exora curb weight…so if balik kampung add with beg, kuih raya, bla bla…total 1420 kg/gross weight..
same with exora laa…..
hm..i think no pr0blem for perodua satey 1.5/vios engine to climb bukit tinggi…
hmm ada paham..tak paham ignore itt…
April 17, 2009 @ 12:35 pm
[quote comment="231028"]
DSZ is Toyota trained guy, not ex Shell employee and he is very well verse in operation. He can recite the 5S values better then you and he definitely understand by heart the 7 types of MUDA and practice the Toyota Way values in his management (Respect for people & Continuous Improvement). He Gemba’s a lot and Genchi Genbutsu is his nature, he seems to prefer Heijunka with multiple colours rather then massive production numbers and the design team seams to understand Jidoka from the start. And I personally believe he is not an ex-rally driver, so he is fine.[/quote]
Thats why DSZ can lead Proton to right path right now. Sorry Ah Beng, your math can’t used in business coz 1+1 will not allways became 2. Some time 1 or 0. Do study more in business….
April 17, 2009 @ 1:52 pm
siapa makan lada dia rasa panas. Jangan nanti bising pasal minyak kuat sama dengan Waja komsamsi minyak sama dengan Toyota Camry 2.0 walaupun satu 1.6L dengan 2.0L. Jangan lupa, Toyota Camry lebih berat dan besar saiznya dibanding dengan Waja dengan lebih 400cc daripada Waja. Huh huh, teknologi ?
April 17, 2009 @ 2:03 pm
tak payah gaduh gaduh internet di sini. kalau ingat bagus sangat, pigi jual kat Europah,Amerika , Jepun, Korea dan kontinent kontinent lain, tengok orang sana beli?Tak payah kutuk jenama jenama lain cakap orang punya produk kereta aseanlah, inilah itulah. Tengok jualan record orng dulu sebelum bukak itu mulut. Tengok Orang Korea dan Cina, jenama dia orang dah lama main globalisasi ! Pusing sini pusing sana la la kat sini jugak rupanya ! Wassalam.
April 17, 2009 @ 2:30 pm
[quote comment="231082"]siapa makan lada dia rasa panas. Jangan nanti bising pasal minyak kuat sama dengan Waja komsamsi minyak sama dengan Toyota Camry 2.0 walaupun satu 1.6L dengan 2.0L. Jangan lupa, Toyota Camry lebih berat dan besar saiznya dibanding dengan Waja dengan lebih 400cc daripada Waja. Huh huh, teknologi ?[/quote]
Waja mana yg kuat minyak? Enjin CamPro ataupun enjin mitsu 4G18? aku pengguna Waja 4G18, dan pernah jugak menggunakan Gen2 1st batch (bare CamPro engine) kawan aku selama 3hari (dia suruh aku jaga semasa dia outstation hehe), penggunaan minyak sama je… cuma pickup je sluggish below 4k rpm…
Itulah org M’sia, nak enjin 1.6 paling laju dlm kelasnya.. tapi kena ingat.. sanggup ke bayar harga lebih utk minyak?
April 17, 2009 @ 2:48 pm
[quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and “Malaysian price”.
Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don’t know maths!!
Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don’t even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.
Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.
DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his “BMW of Asia” also many were hero-worship him, somemore won “CEO of the Year”. Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]
Bongok betul la si AhBeng ni…
Apa kena mengena IDRIS JUSOH dengan cerita yang ko tulis ni, ha mangkuk.. ?? Idris Jusoh ..? Cuba ko gi buat research siapa itu IDRIS JUSOH.
Lain kali nak taip guna kepala hotak la bodoh,.. jangan pakai kepala bontot kao.
Tu la, .. bodoh tak bertempat alih alih campak taik terbaling ke muka ko sendiri. Dasar budak mentah yang bangang .
April 17, 2009 @ 2:49 pm
Exora MPV similar to Innova size! yet there are blind protonians claim it is spacious? What a pathetic if you ask Arab in Dubai, it is a small van (Innova is not MPV) fit for transporting workers only.
Even their hospital used Estima as Ambulance to transport patient! If Exora export to UAE, it is at most as good as Innova only! Perhap MY market bombarded by low quality high price car for far too long, current generation of car users and buyers, out of craptriotic and ignorant, will treat Exora like goddest figure since it is first MPV from P1.
April 17, 2009 @ 2:53 pm
Oh..o! I think Nissan Livina is in big troble now.
April 17, 2009 @ 2:58 pm
[quote comment="230918"]lagi satu…aku pekerja kelas bawahan…kewangan hanya cukup makan…tak arif pasai bab kereta ni..lepas baca komen pakar pakar sekalian…ada 2 soalan,
1.. adakah sistem kenderaan kita terlalu membebankan rakyat pasal setiap kali ada proton ada pasal cukai sekaligus..
2.. sekiranya betul betul parah sekali, bukankah kita patut boikotnya? kenapa ada yang terus jadi buta?
i ni ilmu cetek jer..harap jgn marah dengan persoalan i..cuma saya dah jemu jadi miskin..miskin pasal sendiri takpe..ni pasal dirompak terang terang…[/quote]
bro,
1. cukai apa yang you kena bayar bro..? kalau tak silap i,.. orang yang gaji bawah RM2000 takde kena cukai , kan..? you jangan la menyamar jadi orang miskin pulak pasal semata-mata nak kondem tak tahu hujung pangkal.
2. u pegi balik kerja naik moto ke bro..? bukan ke moto tak kena cukai jalan bro. kalau u betul2 miskin lah… i takut you orang yang menyamar je pasal nak kondem
3. you sure ke Proton aje yang “MENCUKAIKAN” rakyat…? you kena ingat, bro… Perodua pun kira macam “Syarikat Otomotif Nasional” jugak bro… so kalau nak boikot kena la you kempenkan untuk boikot Perodua sekali ya bro,… jangan la pulak you pakat boikot Proton aje. hah, you punya moto Modenas tu pun syarikat Nasional jugak,.. apa kata you boikot you punya moto tu sekali, boleh kan bro..?
so, jangan risau lah! kalau you orang brpendapatan rendah you takde a kena cukai macam i yang yang kena bayar dekat RM6000 setahun.
peace!
April 17, 2009 @ 3:13 pm
Saw the Exora. A very good effort. I see it as my future transport. I have got 3 trouble free protons already, will get another Proton (Savvy) soon. Proud to be Malaysian. Proton truly a Malaysian car manufacturer.
April 17, 2009 @ 3:20 pm
[quote comment="231037"][quote comment="230990"][quote comment="230953"][quote comment="230113"]What a weird kinda photo, Teh tarik? Still not fully developed locally, another Korean product.[/quote]
it’s 100% made in malaysia for malaysian. no connection whatsoever with korea. it’s the first p1 product with the ‘made in malaysia’ seal.[/quote]
wouldn’t said that tbh…
well korean company is the consultant of this MPV project… most ppl know abt this actually…
but i can assure you.. THIS IS NOT A KOREAN PRODUCT, IT IS A MALAYSIAN PRODUCT….
^.^ proud to be malaysian ^.^[/quote]
And, tuan tuan and puan puan sekalian, negeri China adalah supplier untuk BCM ! Tahniah ! ABS modula, air bag sensor dari negeri Korea ! Tahniah, ramai rakan kongsi dalam pengembangan industri kenderaan. Wassalam.[/quote]
Hanya BCM tu saje ke? Drpda perhatian saya tu, LCD tu 100% dr Negara CHINA, sebab I kenal remote tu.
Tapi, apa harga u bayar, apa barang u dapat lar~
Tapi I kena beritahu semua, Negara China bukan keluar barang yang tdk baik, sebaliknya ada yg BERclass punya, cuma apa wang yang kamu bayar saje. Tdk kena mengena dgn brg ni buatan China.
Sebaliknya apa2 barang di Dunia ini byk mengadungi brg Jepun DAN CHINA dan bukan barangan Malaisiasia, kenapa? Kerana Malaisiasia tak m’jlnkan ekonomi OPEN MARKET, mrk coma penting-mementingkan diri-sendiri shj.
Kalau u taknak bagi org sedikit benefit, u mana dapat teknologi, sebaliknya Negara China, sekarang US pun takut pada dia.
Jangn ingatkan brg Malaisiasia shj, brg China pun ada byk baik punya.
Good move Proton for using BARANGAN CHINA, but make sure it is the top class CHINA PRODUCT ya! We don’t mind using China product, because China is a well established and good country. they are specialised in production, manufacturing and assembly of consumer product.
For those who step on and look down on the Chery product(instead these bastard are no manners and didn’t teach enuf by their mommy from childhood) China will thus be the leader to lead the world in the future, coz U.S already DOWN DOWN DOWN.
April 17, 2009 @ 3:35 pm
OUR POLITICIANS DUMP PROTON FOR OTHER CARS BUT I AM NOT GOING TO DO THAT… I BECAUSE I AM PROUD THAT MY COUNTRY MAKES THEIR OWN CAR.. I AM PROUD TO OWN A PROTON THAT MAKES FROM THE SWEAT OF MY BELOVED MALAYSIANS OF ALL CREEDS. EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE SAYS I AM STUPID I AM PAYING MORE..NOPE!! THINGS MADE FROM MALAYSIA IS A PURE DEDICATION & COMMITMENT …IS PRICELESS… I AM PROUD TO SEE MY FOLKS CLIMB MOUNT EVEREST, SWIM ACROSS THE CHANNEL AND GO TO SPACE…
I AM A MALAYSIAN FIRST AND MY RACE IS A SECOND … KEEP UP PROTON!! DUNNO DESPAIR & HELD YOUR HEAD HIGH THAT U CAN MAKE A PROTON BETTER THAN TOYOTA & GM….
April 17, 2009 @ 3:44 pm
OUR POLITICIANS DUMP PROTONS FOR OTHER MAKES… I AM NOT GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE I AM PROUD THAT MY COUNTRY MAKES THEIR OWN CAR AND IS A PRIDE OF MY MALAYSIANS… I KNOW SOME WILL SAY I AM STUPID..NOPE ! A MALAYSIAN MADE CAR (PROTON) IS MADE FROM PURE DEDICATIONS, COMMITMENTS AND TRUE SOUL OF MALAYSIANS FROM ALL CREEDS… I AM PROUD TO SEE MY FOLKS CLIMB THE MOUNT EVEREST, SWIM THE ENGLISH CHANNEL AND GO TO SPACE…NO BODY SHOULD EVER DEGRADE MY COUNTRY BECAUSE IT BELONGS TO ME….I AM A MALAYSIAN FIRST AND MY RACE IS A SECOND MATTER….KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK PROTON ENSURE YOUR CARS ARE BETTER THAN BEFORE!!!
April 17, 2009 @ 4:03 pm
[quote comment="230993"]
The Crash Test 1 is based on 35km/h at it’s speed already crash like this
how about at a higher speed for 80km/h??? U always drive slow like 35km/h meh~
For the crash test footage at a speed of 56km/h the moving tyre that moved backword to the cockpit already makes a threat to the driver and passenger.
But still, I must mention for how safe a car it is, if u drive at high speed and bang, u’ll sure die. This is what I’m want to emphasize, haiyar~ u guys cannot even accept other people’s comment, somemore call ” stupid” la, apa lah[/quote]
U always drive 80km/h meh?~~ certain road, must drive with different speed.. in kampung road i always drive 35km/h..
Ok, watch this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgsEUp65qNM&feature=related
Look at the front wheel.. This Honda Airwave front tyre also move backward to the cockpit.. can i say that already makes a threat to the driver and passenger?
Yep i do agree, no matter how safe ur is, if u still driving beyond the limit and involve in an accident, u will die.. and i will never take any risk driving with high speed with my families onboard… and FYI, no one has called u stupid or whatsoever..
April 17, 2009 @ 4:14 pm
Hey guys, i feel pity for ‘mantop’. Nobody “nak layan” his brilliant opinions…
Get a life, and work hard man..
April 17, 2009 @ 4:19 pm
oklah..nak apa lagi… janji tak kena hujan, panas… banyak komplen pulak… tak suka jangan beli.. habih cerita…
April 17, 2009 @ 4:28 pm
[quote comment="231063"]yaa..very cunn.. i like internal, external but…power???
with campro cps, same with neo…but that neo weight only 1212 kg, exora 1422…hmm so imagine neo with 3 person..big belly 70kg..
exora 1.6 campro cps, try you all imagine driver + 2 passenger with average 60 kg/each, so total 1602 kg…How this CPS wanna drag to bukit tinggi genting..hmmmm…
i think i will wait for perodua mpv…1.5 with weight around 1190 kg…it nearly to satria neo….
…imagine add 3 person 60kg/each, so total 1370 kg…
lower than exora curb weight…so if balik kampung add with beg, kuih raya, bla bla…total 1420 kg/gross weight..
same with exora laa…..
hm..i think no pr0blem for perodua satey 1.5/vios engine to climb bukit tinggi…
hmm ada paham..tak paham ignore itt…[/quote]
Don’t simply make assumption wihout any fact and figure..In fact that DSZ as well follow Exora endurance team to Genting just to believe/ feel for himself. No issues whatsoever related to the 1.6 Campro CPS cruise up to the hill like Genting and Bukit Tinggi..fyi for all the no-brain-bashers, 150 Nm at 4500rpm was tested alone at Dyno Test Bench facilities without any modification, means standard CamproCPS operates. For Exora, there was another 5 exclusive parts already change/ improve to increase torque. Have you heard any flywheel, clutch disc, clutch cover, alternator and newly formatted ECU, I didn’t expect no-brain-bashers to understand thoroughly about engines. We expected with all new exlusive parts installed on this Exora, it gives Torque up to 205 Nm, that’s why you won’t have any problem to Genting or even climb Bukit Tujuh during balik kampung trip to Kelantan. Just for another info to no-brain bashers to starts rethink again before publish any misleading comments.
April 17, 2009 @ 4:36 pm
hahaha.. banyak betul komen bodoh ye kat sini?.. dah la tu bashers…. hati busuk betul..! taknak beli duduk diam2.. nak bagi cadangan bgtau part ape yg kena betulkan.. Ini, belum test drive dah bercakap macam pandai sangat.. hai. dengki betul mereka itu… aku pun beli kete proton je sebab tu je yg aku mampu dgn kualiti dia yg ok lah.. tak la teruk sangat pun.. kalau ade defect, aku ganti kat proton.. free je… (setakat ni la..) kalau rosak teruk sebab aku pun guna ganas sgt kut.. dah jual 70k pun cakap mahal lagi?.. jual murah sgt cakap takde kualiti plak.. buduss
GOOD JOB PROTON!!.. aku harap boleh tengok peningkatan yg lebih pasni dari proton..
April 17, 2009 @ 4:44 pm
[quote comment="230756"]yeah, agree. plastic part still not on par with toyota.
during the crash, the hood should be designed to absorb the kinetic energy i.e. crush or folded to avoid the intrusion to the cabin. mau putus kepala ka?
also agree with the underpower issue, but it should be decent enough to carry people.
hope proton will come up with new fuel economy engine with higher torque for the exora with front&rear brake disc, esc and new transmission.[/quote]
Bro, grab the test unit and feel for yourself. As mentioned by PT during his review, no problem to climb Bukit Tinggi with full load condition. 150 Nm was only a standard torque output at Dyno test, but actual on vehicle condition was higher, up to 205 Nm. For newly develop engines, yes Proton on the way to upgrading for both Engines (Turbocharge) and T/M as well (CVT Tech), but not in this short period of time.
April 17, 2009 @ 4:45 pm
[quote comment="231082"]siapa makan lada dia rasa panas. Jangan nanti bising pasal minyak kuat sama dengan Waja komsamsi minyak sama dengan Toyota Camry 2.0 walaupun satu 1.6L dengan 2.0L. Jangan lupa, Toyota Camry lebih berat dan besar saiznya dibanding dengan Waja dengan lebih 400cc daripada Waja. Huh huh, teknologi ?[/quote]
madmarzio… sorry kalau aku terlayan dia ni.. sebab aku rase dia patut masuk proton ajar bebudak proton tu buat kereta.. Master dia nih.. semua dia dah kaji… betul kan?
“It is not what you drive that’s matter, It is how you drive it.. see?” aku quote pakcik jeremy clarkson punye ayat..
April 17, 2009 @ 5:00 pm
I went to the launching last wednesday, and notice one guy who spent a lot of time investigating the exora, taking videos of the engine compartment, underbody and so on. not like normal customers!!
I don’t think PROTON staffs mind people doing that, but I personally think he shouldn’t do it during the Launching event! The VIPs were around him, camera’s are all around..yet this guy doing research like nobody’s business..
I’m sure anyone whoever went to KLCC last wednesday must have noticed this guy..not only that, that guy also using his girl to cover him while taking videos inside the engine room..
I’m very sure he’s from PERODUA or maybe TOYOTA.
I should have taken a video of him..haishhh
April 17, 2009 @ 5:11 pm
what, another proton?? NO NO, NO MORE PROTON IN MY LIFE. FREE ALSO DUN WANT.. LATER ENDED UP PAYING DOUBLE $$ JUST TO REPAIR AND KEEP IT RUNING!!! Sister bought a SAGA BLM, 2nd day, gear box jatuh, cau u believe it? Bro bought a Person M-line, after 3/4mths, fuel leaking.. Perdana re-sale value NOT EVEN the price of NEW SAGA!!
exore?? YOU GUYS CAN ENJOY ya!! thanku thank u
April 17, 2009 @ 5:15 pm
[quote comment="231029"]Congrate to Proton for the 1st MPV … Hope it won’t give problem later (after 3 months) like other Proton Model. Can consider to sell my Avanza
Need test drive first before deposit for the Exora 
[/quote]
Asked the second hand car dealer yesterday, need to top up another 5-6K to sell my @vanza…huhuhuhu
April 17, 2009 @ 5:19 pm
[quote comment="231140"]I went to the launching last wednesday, and notice one guy who spent a lot of time investigating the exora, taking videos of the engine compartment, underbody and so on. not like normal customers!!
I don’t think PROTON staffs mind people doing that, but I personally think he shouldn’t do it during the Launching event! The VIPs were around him, camera’s are all around..yet this guy doing research like nobody’s business..
I’m sure anyone whoever went to KLCC last wednesday must have noticed this guy..not only that, that guy also using his girl to cover him while taking videos inside the engine room..
I’m very sure he’s from PERODUA or maybe TOYOTA.
I should have taken a video of him..haishhh[/quote]
trying to find a point to bash maybe… or he was amazed by exora and can’t stop himself from taking pics…. lol..
April 17, 2009 @ 5:52 pm
Since full AFTA is approaching, Malaysia own market is no long a cash cow. Finally proton is trying too improve the quality and their image after so long. Safety it seem quite convincing, but how about those accessories and internal finishing? Yet to find out.
Example:
In term of performance Waja is quite stable and speedy.
But within 5 years, i need to replace 2 door handle (driver and passenger side). For Waja owner you will know what i mean. The plastic quality is bad.
I agree with earlier comment mentioning that, National car suppose to be much more cheaper than imported. Malaysian mentality of “Support Malaysia Product” must be right. We can’t just blindly support without comparing. If we care about Malaysia product we be more fussy about our product. To push our Malaysia car manufacturer to a higher standard. We cannot just proud of Malaysia because we are producing car. We proud when we have a great quality car and yet price competitive.
Please Set our proud standard higher
April 17, 2009 @ 6:03 pm
hi arise, i never said that it will have 3 point in the middle, thats why i ask u to zoom to the picture to find the answer because i cannot disclosed the info during that time. yes, all have pretensioner, not only the front row, the brochure just want to emphasise that to complement with airbags, it has pretensioner and load limiter. in the brochure doesnt state about load limiter because it is a standard nowadays that for if the car come with airbags, it will have seatbelt come with pretensioner and load limiter. about the price that kiss said earlier, it was true in the beginning but the price is not include insurance and registration but the management reduce a little bit of the price compare to the proposal price, so u can see the reduce in price without insurance is lower than the propose one. so its good for the people. for me, i didnt care to much about the price because it is out of my work area. anyway, i hope that all of those who just give their comments based on assumption, just go to the showroom for test drive, than u can comment. if i not mistaken, the test drive unit will be available on 20th of april, so headdown to the showroom k,shall we…adios………
April 17, 2009 @ 6:20 pm
an effort worth 2 thumbs up!
3 things that proton may want to consider for future improvement
1. toll card holder (most japanese cars have this feature, especially JDM)
2. rake and reach steering column (or some say vertical/horizontal adjustment)
3. built in touch n go feature. we insert a touch n go card at the dashboard, and a sensor will communicate with the toll system.
April 17, 2009 @ 6:26 pm
em, about the third row seat, ada yang masih xpaham macammana nak gune, mr cupin, awak kena sandarkan@tarik seat yang ketiga tu ke belakang yang boleh, baru dia sampai ke optimum seat configuration dia, baru orang dewasa akan duduk ngan selesa. try pegi showroom semula dan check, tapi janganla banding dengan alphard plak, banding dengan kia rondo dan innova,baru awak tau beza luas dia, malas nak bagi fakta nombor berapa luas beza. seat yang row kedua, memang takbleh tarik depan belakang sebab nak bagi senang full flat dan senang seat nak angkat abis. harap2, bleh paham. em pasal enjin,test drive la dulu, baru la cakap underpower atau tak ok. tapi lebih baik buat head on comparison dengan avanza 1.5 dan grand livina 1.6. bukan on paper, tapi on the road test. enjin 1.6 cps dah cukup memadai untuk dalam kelasnya. tapi tunggu, u might be suprise in the future with proton capabilities when proton going head on with the giantsssssssssssssss with FE and LE……..he..he..he…adios
April 17, 2009 @ 6:39 pm
i dont understand why potong still cannot do the best car in our own country, such a heavy car about 1422kg carry by 1.6cc?? i wonder potong designer brain fill with what??
this potong think we r stupid like them or pakcik n makcik which do not know car, just know how 2 drive from a to b!! it has been almost 20yrs poduce car, still make 3rd world or low class car!! just how lazy and bum they r (just put failure gen2 engine to exora) cannot design and make 1.8 or 2.0 engine meh?? it is so difficult??
April 17, 2009 @ 6:48 pm
[quote comment="231140"]I went to the launching last wednesday, and notice one guy who spent a lot of time investigating the exora, taking videos of the engine compartment, underbody and so on. not like normal customers!!
I don’t think PROTON staffs mind people doing that, but I personally think he shouldn’t do it during the Launching event! The VIPs were around him, camera’s are all around..yet this guy doing research like nobody’s business..
I’m sure anyone whoever went to KLCC last wednesday must have noticed this guy..not only that, that guy also using his girl to cover him while taking videos inside the engine room..
I’m very sure he’s from PERODUA or maybe TOYOTA.
I should have taken a video of him..haishhh[/quote]
No laaa….why not PERODUA or TOYOTA just buy 2exora model and study the model inside the perodua/toyota factory?simply, look at proton brought 2 toyota wish to study and investigate…
but i agree that man’s behaviour was just wierd and suspicious.as for assumption,we can say he is perodua or toyota salesman.
April 17, 2009 @ 6:56 pm
[quote comment="230964"]this MPV cannot seat seven adults “comfortably” as claimed by proton.
it is the same category as kia caren as far as seats are concerned. I seated at the back seat for 5 minutes and it was so uncomfortable and my waist and knees started to give way. Mind you i am just 5′ 3” and weigh 60 kg. It cannot even beat avanza for 7 seater. the rest is ok, just wait for a few months to see if there is any major problems.[/quote]
hi, u sure u weight 60kg with 5′3 body…. frankly i am 6 footer with 82kg frame (similar size with PT but thinnner) and i find myself very comfortable with this car. i went to show room twice already (yesterday and today) and even sit at 3rd row and find it very spacious…. u sure u feel uncomfortable? maybe u health is having problem or you sitting posture is wrong….
April 17, 2009 @ 7:10 pm
[quote comment="231050"][quote comment="231037"]
And, tuan tuan and puan puan sekalian, negeri China adalah supplier untuk BCM ! Tahniah ! ABS modula, air bag sensor dari negeri Korea ! Tahniah, ramai rakan kongsi dalam pengembangan industri kenderaan. Wassalam.[/quote]
hmm…agak2nye berapa % yg product malaysia?
Bro. movement quartz jam jenama Seiko pn buat kt My tau.[/quote]
Aku tambah; surface ring pada jam Seiko tu buat kat kilang EPSON kat Kempas Johor je..
April 17, 2009 @ 7:24 pm
[quote comment="230964"]this MPV cannot seat seven adults “comfortably” as claimed by proton.
it is the same category as kia caren as far as seats are concerned. I seated at the back seat for 5 minutes and it was so uncomfortable and my waist and knees started to give way. Mind you i am just 5′ 3” and weigh 60 kg. It cannot even beat avanza for 7 seater. the rest is ok, just wait for a few months to see if there is any major problems.[/quote]
Hi Cupin, sure or not your weight is 60 kg..maybe 90 kg kot..salah tengok
April 17, 2009 @ 8:18 pm
[quote comment="231173"][quote comment="231050"][quote comment="231037"]
And, tuan tuan and puan puan sekalian, negeri China adalah supplier untuk BCM ! Tahniah ! ABS modula, air bag sensor dari negeri Korea ! Tahniah, ramai rakan kongsi dalam pengembangan industri kenderaan. Wassalam.[/quote]
hmm…agak2nye berapa % yg product malaysia?
Bro. movement quartz jam jenama Seiko pn buat kt My tau.[/quote]
Aku tambah; surface ring pada jam Seiko tu buat kat kilang EPSON kat Kempas Johor je..[/quote]
and berlambak brand jepun made in china sekarang.
not all barang made in china cikai.
2nd penang bridge also consultant from china. LOL!
April 17, 2009 @ 8:47 pm
[quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and “Malaysian price”.
Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don’t know maths!!
Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don’t even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.
Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.
DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his “BMW of Asia” also many were hero-worship him, somemore won “CEO of the Year”. Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]
April 17, 2009 @ 9:00 pm
[quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and “Malaysian price”.
Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don’t know maths!!
Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don’t even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.
Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.
DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his “BMW of Asia” also many were hero-worship him, somemore won “CEO of the Year”. Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]
[quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and “Malaysian price”.
Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don’t know maths!!
Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don’t even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.
Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.
DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his “BMW of Asia” also many were hero-worship him, somemore won “CEO of the Year”. Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]
weii,klo idris jala director MAS 2 btlla jgk,.he2
nway,good job proton!
April 17, 2009 @ 9:32 pm
[quote comment="231161"]em, about the third row seat, ada yang masih xpaham macammana nak gune, mr cupin, awak kena sandarkan@tarik seat yang ketiga tu ke belakang yang boleh, baru dia sampai ke optimum seat configuration dia, baru orang dewasa akan duduk ngan selesa. try pegi showroom semula dan check, tapi janganla banding dengan alphard plak, banding dengan kia rondo dan innova,baru awak tau beza luas dia, malas nak bagi fakta nombor berapa luas beza. seat yang row kedua, memang takbleh tarik depan belakang sebab nak bagi senang full flat dan senang seat nak angkat abis. harap2, bleh paham. em pasal enjin,test drive la dulu, baru la cakap underpower atau tak ok. tapi lebih baik buat head on comparison dengan avanza 1.5 dan grand livina 1.6. bukan on paper, tapi on the road test. enjin 1.6 cps dah cukup memadai untuk dalam kelasnya. tapi tunggu, u might be suprise in the future with proton capabilities when proton going head on with the giantsssssssssssssss with FE and LE……..he..he..he…adios[/quote]
460, do u mind shedding some info bout FE and LE??wat is it??
April 17, 2009 @ 9:38 pm
here… i gather this info. for u guys…
livina 1.8 – 93kw (126ps – 124bhp) – 1280kg = 10.3
exora – 125bhp – 1422kg = 11
citra II rondo – 145bhp – 1563kg = 10.7
stream – 103kw (140ps – 138bhp) – 1385kg = 10
wish – 110kw (150ps – 147bhp) – 1410kg = 9.5
*Note: (= power to weight ratio) lowest is better
April 17, 2009 @ 9:41 pm
[quote comment="230915"][quote comment="230803"][quote comment="230133"]“rakyat malaysia inginkan kenderaan yg mmpunyai performance like european cars, styling like japanese cars, dan harga malaysia.” -DSZ (during the launching presentation)
i think this mpv has full fill the requirements.
btw, i think the front grill has made proton founded their identity:][/quote]
the front grille is proton’s identity? haha i don’t know abt that
anyway i think beneath the skin is either a mitsubishi or toyota frame etc
there are only a few minor changes on the lights and interior[/quote]
Can provide proof please? If not you will just look plain stupid.[/quote]
well that’s what is being done whether u choose to believe or not doesn’t matter haha. the design almost resembles the wish or the grandis with minor changes here and there sp that they can call it their own. think abt it salamander
April 17, 2009 @ 9:45 pm
As claimed by paul – “We had another short drive around Cyberjaya where the media drive was held and this time I noticed that the Exora was a little more bouncy that usual. I asked the engineers whether there were any differences between the prototype specifications and the production car that we drove and they said yes”.
Test drive it first, as mention by paul, the car was BOUNCY because difference spec of suspension being used. Test drive on flat road oso no point…cannot reveal true face of exorra.
April 17, 2009 @ 9:52 pm
[quote comment="231161"]em, about the third row seat, ada yang masih xpaham macammana nak gune, mr cupin, awak kena sandarkan@tarik seat yang ketiga tu ke belakang yang boleh, baru dia sampai ke optimum seat configuration dia, baru orang dewasa akan duduk ngan selesa. try pegi showroom semula dan check, tapi janganla banding dengan alphard plak, banding dengan kia rondo dan innova,baru awak tau beza luas dia, malas nak bagi fakta nombor berapa luas beza. seat yang row kedua, memang takbleh tarik depan belakang sebab nak bagi senang full flat dan senang seat nak angkat abis. harap2, bleh paham. em pasal enjin,test drive la dulu, baru la cakap underpower atau tak ok. tapi lebih baik buat head on comparison dengan avanza 1.5 dan grand livina 1.6. bukan on paper, tapi on the road test. enjin 1.6 cps dah cukup memadai untuk dalam kelasnya. tapi tunggu, u might be suprise in the future with proton capabilities when proton going head on with the giantsssssssssssssss with FE and LE……..he..he..he…adios[/quote]
460, do u mind shedding some info about the FE and LE??wat is it??
give us some hints,ok??
April 17, 2009 @ 10:06 pm
well that’s what is being done whether u choose to believe or not doesn’t matter haha. the design almost resembles the wish or the grandis with minor changes here and there sp that they can call it their own. think abt it salamander[/quote]
duh!
keta / MPV even lori sekali pun pusing kiri kanan atas bawah memang ada similarity lah fren!
nx time gi amik gambar semua MPV then buat comparison. tak pun boleh buat design sendiri enjin letak atas bumbung. then boleh buat MPV bentuk silinder pulak. baru orang kata macam lori tangki pulak. lepas ni boleh la proton buat competition design pulak. baru la tukang complaint ni boleh voice out.
April 17, 2009 @ 10:33 pm
Hey congrats to you guys…I am from singapore and i think Proton has done very well with this new Exora. I wonder when its coming to our country….
April 17, 2009 @ 10:45 pm
[quote comment="231142"]what, another proton?? NO NO, NO MORE PROTON IN MY LIFE. FREE ALSO DUN WANT.. LATER ENDED UP PAYING DOUBLE $$ JUST TO REPAIR AND KEEP IT RUNING!!! Sister bought a SAGA BLM, 2nd day, gear box jatuh, cau u believe it? Bro bought a Person M-line, after 3/4mths, fuel leaking.. Perdana re-sale value NOT EVEN the price of NEW SAGA!!
exore?? YOU GUYS CAN ENJOY ya!! thanku thank u[/quote]
Give free oso dun want hah? U just pulling our legs right?
later end up paying double $$ to repair and keep it’s running? Why it’s easy to my pocket maintaining my 2002 Waja and it’s still running on the road “dgn penuh bergaya”?
ur sister buying saga and end up with “gearbox jatuh”? r u kidding me? ofcoz i’m not believing u.. why dont u taking that gearbox pics and post it’s here? after that we will believe u…
my fren honda civic engine oso got leaking la..
ya, we are enjoying Exora right now…
If ur sis saga gearbox really “jatuh”.. send it to Proton SC and claim for warranty.. oso dont forget to call Proton I-Care and inform them regarding thus problems..
April 17, 2009 @ 11:10 pm
[quote comment="231208"][quote comment="230915"][quote comment="230803"][quote comment="230133"]“rakyat malaysia inginkan kenderaan yg mmpunyai performance like european cars, styling like japanese cars, dan harga malaysia.” -DSZ (during the launching presentation)
i think this mpv has full fill the requirements.
btw, i think the front grill has made proton founded their identity:][/quote]
the front grille is proton’s identity? haha i don’t know abt that
anyway i think beneath the skin is either a mitsubishi or toyota frame etc
there are only a few minor changes on the lights and interior[/quote]
Can provide proof please? If not you will just look plain stupid.[/quote]
well that’s what is being done whether u choose to believe or not doesn’t matter haha. the design almost resembles the wish or the grandis with minor changes here and there sp that they can call it their own. think abt it salamander[/quote]
Adoi…. ni sorg lg……. cetek ilmu tp nk tunjuk pandai…. kesian, salamander-san, i agree with u man…bravo proton
April 17, 2009 @ 11:43 pm
[quote comment="231168"]i dont understand why potong still cannot do the best car in our own country, such a heavy car about 1422kg carry by 1.6cc?? i wonder potong designer brain fill with what??
this potong think we r stupid like them or pakcik n makcik which do not know car, just know how 2 drive from a to b!! it has been almost 20yrs poduce car, still make 3rd world or low class car!! just how lazy and bum they r (just put failure gen2 engine to exora) cannot design and make 1.8 or 2.0 engine meh?? it is so difficult??[/quote]
Dear Mr Crazy@ DumbA**@Numb@Retard or whatever…. Deposit your resume to Proton and let’s see your capability/ ability to help Proton. I’ll personally interview you once your resume receive at HR counter. Everythings gone wrong with Proton based on your empty-headed brain and we most welcome a person like you to fine tune Proton (If your IQ sufficient). Be a good bashers to improve Proton, don’t simply story telling without fact; unless you are completely useless.
April 17, 2009 @ 11:43 pm
y the GPS got campur2 bahasa. Instruction in english but command in BM
April 17, 2009 @ 11:45 pm
Overall is Marvelous… but there are something wrong with the door…bunyi nipis n tak padat..bunyi macam ade rongga je..anyway, congratulation proton….
April 18, 2009 @ 12:00 am
[quote comment="231227"]Hey congrats to you guys…I am from singapore and i think Proton has done very well with this new Exora. I wonder when its coming to our country….[/quote]
At least our friends at S’pore also amaze on Exora, shall arrive in S’pore in a short time, after Manual T/M officially open for booking. TQ Singaporean for having faith on Malaysian products.
April 18, 2009 @ 12:17 am
[quote comment="231142"]what, another proton?? NO NO, NO MORE PROTON IN MY LIFE. FREE ALSO DUN WANT.. LATER ENDED UP PAYING DOUBLE $$ JUST TO REPAIR AND KEEP IT RUNING!!! Sister bought a SAGA BLM, 2nd day, gear box jatuh, cau u believe it? Bro bought a Person M-line, after 3/4mths, fuel leaking.. Perdana re-sale value NOT EVEN the price of NEW SAGA!!
exore?? YOU GUYS CAN ENJOY ya!! thanku thank u[/quote]
who asked you to buy it?
April 18, 2009 @ 12:33 am
I went to the showroom afternoon tadi n boy was I surprised: is that black strip on the seats alcantara?!?! So cun!! The kinda material used in Brabus n other exclusive cars r also used in Exora makes it sooo kewl!!
Anyway, to the thickheads: GO. FRIGGIN. TEST. DRIVE. EXORA. It’s easy to make assumption of it being underpowered, bt this has been explained many times by si-fu n 460 that it is not that bad. You may say cuz Paul Tan said so, bt bear this in mind: Paul Tan’s daily commute is a BMW E39 520i, anything less will feel underpowered. Betul tak, Paul?
Not to say I totally disregard ur opinion, bt I tend to agree with what Chips Yap said abt expectations of real customers that Proton targets vs enthusiasts that are obsessed with figures.
Chips Yap hv long been known to be a Proton sceptic, bt I see that his perception on Exora is much more positive. He is of the opinion that power is not the main priority for Exora’s target customer based on his observation on one event. He found out real customers ask things like “what comes with the car for the price, how long is the warranty, are spare parts cheap, how long to wait for delivery. And when it came to looking at the car, many would be seated in the back and examine the door handles or feel the leather.”
Takpe takpe, next yr Campro turbo is ready hopefully. Then we can finally bury the hatchet. Settled.
April 18, 2009 @ 12:43 am
Yeah 460. Please give some hint regarding what you mentioned about FE and LE.
So many comments. For those who had lost their confidence with P1, it’s up to you guys.. Try to give comments that can make P1 open up their eyes and minds. For those who still loves P1 and Malaysia product, keep on supporting with purchase Malaysia product.
Salam..
April 18, 2009 @ 12:44 am
Hey guys, watch this video.. camouflaged test mule unit P2 mpv was spotted..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SD4FXz1×70&feature=related
why it’s need test mule unit? the test already done in japan right? or else they tested it’s again after reducing the gadgets so they can sell it below RM70k perhaps..
April 18, 2009 @ 12:45 am
disappointed.
at the end of the day.. buying a car is all about the ownership experience and i have lost faith in proton’s product and after-sales. sorry but no more protons.
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