ASEAN NCAP updates – new testing protocols by 2020

ASEAN NCAP P-3 Proton Preve-2

The ongoing series of technical talks organised by the Malaysia Automotive Institute and Society of Automotive Engineers Malaysia continued today – this time, it was the turn of the Malaysian Institute of Road Safety Research (Miros) to hold court.

The presentation at the MAI Galleria in Cyberjaya this morning was to automotive industry stakeholders, and discussed many facets of road safety related-matters. The big ticket item concerned updates on the New Car Assessment Program for Southeast Asian Countries (ASEAN NCAP).

Following the conclusion of its three-phase pilot project which began in 2013 and ended last May, the organisation – which operates under the ambit of Miros – will be fully operational by August and is set to carry out safety testing on new cars periodically.

Changes are in store – down the road, there will be revisions and additions to the testing protocols, but the programme will remain unchanged until the end of 2016, with the exception that the UN R95 side impact test introduced in Phase III of the pilot project will now be mandatory.

General evaluation has cars being subjected to an offset frontal collision test, which involves striking a deformable barrier with an overlap of 40% at 64 km/h, and the side impact test consists of a mobile deformable barrier striking the side of the car at 50 km/h.

It was also announced that reassessment or audit tests would be introduced where there may be variations since the initial test, for example if there was a deviation on safety items (for example, the introduction or a new variant without top tether points, where it was tested with it in place before).

Moving forward, from 2016 to 2020 the organisation is looking to develop a new testing regime in which a new combined rating system (in the vein of Euro NCAP) will be slowly put in place. Significant updates to test protocols are also expected in frontal and lateral occupant protection test aspects as well as of those for child occupant protection (COP) – the plan is to have them running from 2020.

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Revisions include the development of curtain airbag evaluation to replace the pole test, and a lot of emphasis is being put on the COP aspect – the lateral occupant protection tests, for example, will be considered together with Q1.5 and Q3 dummies (these representing 1.5-year-old and three-year-old child examples) in place during such testing.

The agency is expected to receive its new Q-Series 1.5 and 3 models by the end of this year, and evaluation trials with these are expected to begin in 2016, with a new points system for COP testing being discussed.

More interestingly, Miros mentioned that it was exploring the idea of the development of an ASEAN NCAP child seat. The idea is to come up with an affordable child seat that is accessible to the masses in terms of cost, but one meeting full requirements and of course built by an established manufacturer.

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The organisation says that it has found that currently in all COP tests it has carried out thus far, the child seats being used are higher-end products. Their performance is undoubted, but they are generally expensive, and cost is always an issue. Going cheap or unknown may compromise on issue of safety, and so Miros is looking at seeing if something can be done to address this. Great idea, but let’s see how this pans out.

Finally, Miros is also hoping to advance the implementation of more safety assist technologies, many to do with helping to curb motorcycle-related accidents. On the subject of electronic stability control (ESC), the organisation is working to see if it can get Malaysia going well ahead of the timeframe proposed by the global NCAP declaration on ESC.

That one asks all UN member states to mandate the installation of ESC in new models by 2018 and in all automobiles by 2020 in aggressive fashion – Miros, meanwhile, is discussing with car manufacturers in seeing if all new cars in Malaysia can come equipped with the ESC feature by 2016. It’s an ambitious plan, but it’ll probably be 2018 before it’s all done and dusted.

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Comments

  • Jilbaber (Member) on Apr 22, 2015 at 5:36 pm

    I hope there gonna be small overlap crash test…

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    • Same L0rrrr on Apr 22, 2015 at 7:24 pm

      latest camry hybrid booking 199. I will get another lexus this month

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      • Jilbaber (Member) on Apr 23, 2015 at 6:43 am

        Camry score good tak in small overlap test ? If not good, then I gonna buy it for my ex (good luck for her in accident)

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      • Ah Beng (Member) on Apr 23, 2015 at 8:27 am

        This is good news. Ah Beng hope that ANCAP will be more stringent. PROTON will easily pass the assessment and be the safest car with cheapest price.

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    • Anti Cheat on Apr 23, 2015 at 6:46 am

      Miros must ban request for 2nd re-test by carmakers. Be fair to all.

      If a car is 1-star rated, just accept it and don’t fool us with new test 3-star rated result.

      Honesty is best policy. :)

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  • Good to see the discussion going on. Dont listen to the noise makers. Just do your thing.

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    • I don’t understand why they need to create their own protocols instead of just use the euro or australia’s rules.

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      • ASEAN noob on Apr 22, 2015 at 7:09 pm

        Because ASEAN NCAP is less safety than Euro NCAP. So Proton, Perodua, Japs and Korean no need to spend more to strengthen the body while can earn more. It’s all about money.

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        • Jilbaber (Member) on Apr 22, 2015 at 7:19 pm

          Sound harsh…but I agreed there is truth to that

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          • karam singh on Apr 23, 2015 at 6:23 am

            Its all about money ..
            If all cars got all those safety,
            how much will be the price for the car ?
            Axia with ABS price RM 38k
            Axia without ABS price RM 25k

            some people cant afford.
            even there are safer car ? but still people bought less safer car.
            So, its us as consumer to choose.

            Most Toyota not that safe, only some
            but still manage to do sales that good.

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        • kzm (Member) on Apr 22, 2015 at 8:25 pm

          lol that obviously toyota n p2 not European car, korean car, other japs car n p1…

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        • kadajawi (Member) on Apr 23, 2015 at 4:48 am

          Thing is that Proton can actually survive what ANCAP and EuroNCAP can throw at them. Perodua is the one that is worried, and Toyota too.

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  • Crasher7 on Apr 22, 2015 at 6:30 pm

    Implement it ASAP, it is essential…

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  • In be4 asean cars no need safety as long as got RV so Proton and all others can kolos shop

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  • Toyota still dont gv a f*ck on this

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    • Crasher7 on Apr 22, 2015 at 8:47 pm

      If it is implemented, UMW be like “We need other features to be removed then…”

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  • seancorr (Member) on Apr 22, 2015 at 8:03 pm

    They’re delaying the testing protocols so that Proton can be ready for the tests…

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    • kzm (Member) on Apr 22, 2015 at 8:30 pm

      u mean the other “P” brand rite?…if p1 not ready how can they get 5 star ANCAP(aussie)?

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      • alldisc on Apr 23, 2015 at 8:16 am

        That is only happening recently.

        Where was proton 3 years back? All its cars except preve will not do well in any ncap.

        Persona, saga flx, satria neo, exora.

        This just shows that proton was not ready yet.

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        • kzm (Member) on Apr 23, 2015 at 9:44 am

          that 3 yrs ago…now they pretty much ready..other “P” national brand is not ready 3 yrs ago till now..

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    • They are delaying cuz Proton and some say TC Nissan are way ahead of the safety game. The rest are still talking about high RV and timing chain.
      But cant say I blame them cuz we still have Malaysians say they can “ukur baju sendiri” and dun need safety features just like they dun need to buy life insurance. Go figure

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    • kadajawi (Member) on Apr 23, 2015 at 4:50 am

      Proton is ready. Toyota, Honda, Nissan aren’t. Especially Toyota. And of course Perodua.

      Doesn’t Nissan still sell the 1 airbag Almera?

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      • Hipokrit on Apr 23, 2015 at 11:16 am

        A smart German surely buy Skoda, SEAT cars rather than anonymous Proton.

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        • smartrakyat on Apr 23, 2015 at 12:41 pm

          p1 is moving forward but some people minds don’t. And yeah why dun support our own product?

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  • Josh Ling on Apr 22, 2015 at 8:30 pm

    if a car manufacturer cares enough for passengers’ safety, i see no reason why they won’t at least choose to fit ESC , ABS and airbags as standard.

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    • kadajawi (Member) on Apr 23, 2015 at 4:54 am

      They don’t care about that. They care about the bottom line. How much will they earn? Cars overseas are safe because customers want safe cars. In Malaysia customers want bling bling cars with big rims, so that’s what car makers offer.

      ESC for example isn’t very expensive, in 2005 the IIHS (IIRC) estimated it costs $111 to fit it on a car that has ABS, and something like $363 to fit ABS. Since most cars do have ABS, it would be less than RM 500 to add it. People don’t care though, it won’t increase sales (or those who do care are willing to spend much more to get it, so why give it for free?).

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      • Hipokrit on Apr 23, 2015 at 11:42 am

        A smart German knows that buying Skoda simply way better worth it than a Proton.

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  • If country like malaysia do not have the regulation, some manufacture will take advantage on this by send you a car that not meet spec international. let say Japanese spec have airbag and malaysia do not have airbag. Implementation Asean Ncap is good to create new standard spec safety for Malaysia cars. Some country like Japan and Austaralia they have their own standard safety regulation like Japan NCAP and Australia NCAP.

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    • Enuff said on Apr 23, 2015 at 6:51 am

      Volvo global sales = 400k cars

      Toyota global sales = 9 million cars

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      • safetyno.1 on Apr 23, 2015 at 12:43 pm

        So what, you still say good sales number means safer cars? Come on.

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  • Still no pedestrian rating. So when will ASEAN NCAP be on the same level as EURO NCAP? 2025? By that time ENCAP would’ve updated their testing protocols twice.

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  • azrai on Apr 23, 2015 at 8:22 am

    That way we can expect to see a RM70k 3rd gen Myvi on 2018 then.

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  • Just my two cents on Apr 23, 2015 at 6:11 pm

    Given that our two-way kampung roads have legal 90kmh speed limits, i reckon they should increase the 64kmh crash test to 90kmh. Since the only things for them to crash into is oncoming traffic, cows or a stationary tree on the side of the road. Not to mention help will only arrive much later than needed. Perhaps our primary school should teach kids first aid because most children in rural area rarely completes spm/stpm. Unless the government are doing it to garner political votes instead of actual social services… Then whatever floats their boats eh…

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    • Autobahns in EU has no speed limit yet EURONCAP still tests at 64kmh. You say leh?

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