Driven Web Series is back again, powered by Petronas Primax! This is the episode you’ve all been waiting for, featuring the 2018 Perodua Myvi! We compare Malaysia’s best-selling car against its two closest rivals, the refined Proton Iriz and the brand new Kia Picanto.
There’s nothing left that hasn’t already been said of the latest Myvi. It’s topping the sales chart, winning buyers over with its fresh new looks, advanced features and commendable affordability. The top-of-the-line 1.5 Advance model featured here, complete with its active safety suite, goes for RM55,300.
Originally planned to be Proton’s answer to the Myvi, the Iriz has turned out to be a sales disappointment. It has taken the company a long three years to make it fighting fit, and now, in its Refined guise, we will see if it’s still a relevant choice next to its perennial rival. In top 1.6 Premium guise, it weighs in at RM56,950.
Taking on the two local stalwarts is the new Kia Picanto. Yes, it’s an A-segmenter going up against two B-segment hatchbacks, but it’s the only true alternative to the Malaysian pair. Say all you want about the class mismatch, but the fact is, if you have a budget of around RM50k for a new car, these are your three options. Speaking of which, the Picanto slots in at RM49,888.
So, which one should you buy then? We compare the three contenders’ specs, performance, ride and handling, practicality, quality and of course, fuel economy in this comprehensive group test. Enjoy!
GALLERY: 2018 Perodua Myvi 1.5 Advance
GALLERY: 2017 Proton Iriz 1.6 Premium
GALLERY: 2018 Kia Picanto 1.2 EX
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Don’t have to crack your head. See which is a top seller. the rakyat is the best judge. the top seller is the 2018 Perodua Myvi. In 2 months, Perodua sold 60,000 Myvis.
This is nearly Proton’s entire sale for its whole range of cars.
That is just 2018 Myvi. Belum kira Axia lagi
The rakyat is the best judge in Malaysia. You can see the super high demand for Perodua Myvi. The rakyat know, it is top quality. Top safety spec and also it uses a Toyota Vios engine.
As for Iriz, well, sales are not that good until it was proposed to be given to Uber and Grab drivers even
So far, already got 1.1 million Myvis on our roads. All owners have nothing but super good things to say about their Myvi
Best sentence ever!!!
“Iriz has turned out to be a sales disappointment”
Iriz has the best handling and dynamic capabilities, fastest 0-100 + planted ride.
Sales figure tell the answer. Which car are better..
Nahh.. Jazz ftw
Be careful of Proton engines. New time they will say good FC. Kononnya at par with Myvi
After 2 years, it will drink petrol like crazy. My Waja I have to fill up RM10 each 30KM I do. New time, it was fuel efficient.
Campro is even worse. 3 year old engines, despite servicing regularly, can suck petrol like crazy
I dengar Proton “New Management” is a combination of all the rejects from ex-Hyundai and ex-Toyota and ex-Perodua… Must be very desperate Proton taking what others dont want any longer. Kesian betul jugak
Proton CEO already confirmed 75% of all their sales is Saga and Persona.
You can assume also the bulk of the remaining balance 25% is mainly Perdanas ordered by the Government.
So Iriz make a super small percentage of sales. Since Proton is bleeding money, better to close this line and save so much of money
Concentrate on Saga and Persona.
Proton don’t want to lose face. Still sell money loss Iriz despite losing RM4 mil per day
There is a reason why the reviewers parked the 3 cars in that order .. with Proton at the back… subtle message “Get it outta my sight !”
If follow basher logic their overlord myvi is anytime better than felali
Common sense. One car has an engine sold in over 200 countries
The other car has a Campro engine sold ONLY in Malaysia. One or two others like Bangladesh, Pakistan
That itself will answer your questions
Proton say by 2020, sales will be 200,000 cars.
That is 1 year 8 more months.
From 70,000 lompat to 200,000!!!
Preve exora saga are sold in Australia, get your fact right
You can see thousands of 2005 first generation Myvis on the road running perfectly with no white or black smoke
But you can never see old Savvy (that time no Iriz) or Satria on the road anymore. All demolished. Cannot run anymore.
That is Proton quality. After 10 years….only worth besi buruk
More and more old myvi are being listed on mudah. Butsaga is still moving on road either old or new
Iriz always got oil leak problem. Glenmarie Servis fed up and always blame customer driving style.
Huh? Oil leak blame customer driving style?
everybody complaining Iriz got oil leak problem. I hope Proton SC sorts this out
I read all the blogs and forums, all Perodua owners very happy with their cars.
Even if problems crop up, the SC is so fast to help and so grateful you have come to them for assistance.
Then I read Proton forums…..OMG. Just complains complains complain. Two things they complain. Their car and their SC.
Well sales figures show. 1.1 million happy Myvi customers.
Aiyar soon Proton will have more staff number than is yearly sales figures … Now drop below 4000 a month already … Boyue will contribute 10000 units a month ka ?
I only buy P2 because of 2 reasons
1) Malaysian car. I support Malaysia
2) I support success and no songlap. Perodua is success and no songlap.
When I buy P2, it is my way to show the world, I support NO songlap
I only buy P2 because of 2 reasons
1) Malaysian car. I support Malaysia
2) I support success and no songlap. Perodua is success and no songlap.
When I buy P2, it is my way to show the world, I support NO songlap
Funny to read comments from P1 bashers. Sked sales number menjunam kah?
Kahkahkah
2018 Perodua Myvi RM55k
2020 your Perodua Myvi become RM43k
2018 Proton Iriz RM55k
2020 your Proton Iriz become RM18k
When you want to sell your car, bank ask you to TOP UP your loan.
You ask yourself this, “What have I been paying the past 2 years? Where has that money gone”
Honestly, many wud pick myvi & picanto becoz they can park and get down infront of front gate of the kenduri house proudly.
Wut? Myvi? Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Nobody beats the falling RV of a Proton. This alone can send you to hospital for heart attack
Don’t forget, selling the car in mudah also is a big headache. Cause supply exceeds demand. Too many Protons for sale
If proton got such bad RV, China car will have worse RV.
This is why we hardly see any Haval on our roads despite being cheap. Malaysians have no confidence in China cars
Don’t talk about RV, after 10 years, Proton cars cannot run anymore. Have to demolish.
If you see any older than 10 years Proton cars, they are the stock Mitsubishi. The Iswaras and Wiras. Can even last 30 years.
After that, Campro cars came about. Maximum after 10 years lingkup.
Check at mudah can see Myvi RV is not that good, same wit kimchi cars
Eh, still can see many Saga BLM on road la. Now already year 2018, it was launched in 2008 so 10 years. Whether you don’t know how to count or you just live in past
I think the whole Malaysia knows Proton got worst RV
Some said when sell myvi must top up a bit to buy another car. Really bad RV huh?
55k drops to 18k in two years? Nuts?
last time fellow commentator john say Iriz sales so good and surpass Myvi.
even japanese, masters of perfection rush to rebadge the Myvi. Lagi Best simply better.
very few Proton owners buy Proton for the 2nd time.
100% Perodua owners always buy Perodua for the 2nd and 3rd time
Even for their children also
I have used Proton before and Perodua before. Trust me, maintenance cost is DOUBLE for Proton.
Worse still, my downtime is TRIPLE than my Perodua. All the time fighting with the SC guy who is in denial and refuse to claim warranty
I bought Iriz 1.6 Premium not bcos patriotic alone but its really good national car.
john should explain to us. He previously said 2 years ago demand for Iriz is super high.
Now Driven said Iriz sales “disappointment”
Who to bilip? john or Driven
Mana betul ni??
Even Tun Mahathir, former PM and former advisor to Proton also confirmed sales of Iriz teruk betul!
I think I rather believe Tun
Myvi owner keep car at house and ride kapchai. Why? It is because the FC is dissapointment. Even bigger engined 1.6l Iriz is better.
So even Myvi sales is just ok it is not really a good car
1.1 million Myvi owners say FC is excellent.
Only 1 Myvi owner say he keep in the house and ride kapchai.
I think I believe the 1.1 million Myvi owners
The rakyat, not just the local graduates have rejected Proton.
Proton sales only survive because Government lenient giving Government loans for Putrajaya workers to buy Proton
What do you expect from Proton? sembang memang kencang.
P2 oso sembang kencang, kencing 20.1km/l FC later pening sebab tak dapat
Protong has been boasting Lotus ride and handling for 2 decades….whats the use?
IT has been sucking tax dollars for 2 decades,including your taxes.
You feel syiok ? Elevated ? Good ?
Only narcotic addicts feel a temporary high.You may be one of them,unfortunately,as hardcore protong addicts.
Suck tax? You mean your overlord Toyota got bailed out by jepunis gomen ?
Proton spent hundreds of millions of Euro to buy Lotus just to put that badge in every Proton. And yet, rakyat Malaysia don’t want Proton. 3000 plus sales in February speaks volumes
Myvi sales figures prove to everybody Malaysians have confidence in Toyota engine.
Even local graduates are wanting Perodua.
Foreign graduates lagi tak nak Proton!
Older generation reject Proton 100% cause they already bitten
No more lotus ride la… Lotus flower maybe la now
Lotus cost Proton BILLION to buy. And more BILLIONS to run and sustain the past 10 years. Now completely lost.
Lost for a mere RM170 million, Geely bought both Proton and Lotus.
Two in one.
You don’t go wrong for either proton or lotus ride and handling. Both are superb handling , got compliments from international reviews everytime. Go and read more
Iriz is no match to Myvi. Better for Iriz not to compete also here
In Japan, Passo/Sirion is top car. Iriz is nowhere in Japan
Who cares whether it is top car or not, even VW DSG is junk here. And Myvi is not real sirion deswai cannot sell in jepunis
Proton is like cursed to failed. No matter what they try…. Mitsubishi Honda Suzuki model partnerships all comes to nought. Delaying the unevitable while bleeding cash every month
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they can’t even sell their own Protons, u think China made Boyue can sell in Malaysia?
Don’t forget, Proton cars, although crap, are 100X better quality than any China car.
Malaysians know this fact. Malaysians are very proud of Buatan Malaysia.
Whatever…. Fact is I don’t want to be known as driving a China car or worst still a China rebranded car … Better off I buy a second hand Mazda CX-5
Perodua is cash rich. Anytime you claim warranty, they just honour it
Proton got no money. That is why when you claim warranty, it is like fighting a court case. You got to prove beyond reasonable doubt it is not your fault.
@Mokhtar : Geely makes quality cars at affordable price. They poached many talents from Volvo, including designer Peter Horbury.
Their cars are properly engineered up to Volvo’s engineering standard.
@Image : your loss.
@Proton Owner : fake news. I’ve claimed faulty brake switch, rubber roof lining, no problem at all.
Many people on the internet echoes the same thing, Proton is generous and easy to claim.
Honda treat customers worse, wanna claim warranty is slow, difficult and rude. See a recent viral owner had to self-improvise his new CR-V’s gear shifter, the Honda SC so rude and just ask him to wait cuz no stock.
yes tokmoh….if Geely made quaity cars, it won’t be rejected by US, Europe, Japan and Australia
First world reject Geely cars.
Few third world only can sell, that also sales are bad
go read in Proton forums, Proton owners always kena tipu. SC say change oil. Siap gip empty container also (Petronas Syntium)
Go home and check….still got black oil.
So many kena. Now you know why people dont buy Proton
So where is Perodua outside Malaysia? They are best seller in Malaysia, but outside, they are immaterial.
Even in Indonesia, they dare not sell under their name, but under Daihatsu badge. Call it “marketing strategy”, pragmatic, etc, fact is Perodua is merely jaguh kampung.
If Geely sales so bad, they would never have been able to buy Volvo, London taxi, Volvo AB, Proton, Lotus, Daimler and so on.
And since Perodua is so successful, why can’t they do better than Geely? Internationally, they are nobody, all the profit they made throughout the years go back to Japan, and our only gain is so tiny, which is slightly better fc car, that’s it.
Come back in 5 years time, you will regret spewing out such bullshit. Geely will by then spread further their might, conquering the world market, including all the markets you said. In fact they already are, you just refuse to see : Volvo belongs to them, there is technically no reason Geely cannot claim credit for its success.
tokmoh, we can see your frustration. your bosses at Proton will be upset at your performance here
frus sangat sampai condemn Myvi puas puas.
tokmoh, tak malu ke China is doing all the work for Proton?
Tak malu ke our local car industry failed with so much of debts?
Every sen Geely makes in Malaysia will go back to China bro. So, don’t talk big about Perodua
Still attacking Perodua. This is the person who claims to be neutral and objective in his comments.
“tokmoh, tak malu ke China is doing all the work for Proton?”
same thing with perodua.. someone else is doing all the work. so why the double standards?. im not denying perodua cars are reliable and great value.. my first car ever was a perodua.. but they’re in the same boat.. its technically not a “malaysian car”. but if everything fall in place in the right way, consumers will buy.. people should stop spewing bull about proton getting help from china. there is nothing wrong with that.. if proton can put out the right product at the right price with the right support systems in place (aftersales, etc.) im sure they can regain the trust in the market. proton has been for too long, mismanaged with lots of meddling by many parties.. i think geely deserves a chance to show that they can turn this around.
HAhahah tokmoh the #realfanboy
best episode of Driven. Thank you guys for a fair review. Now, 2018 Myvi sales will double because of this objective review.
Three Musketeers. Friz in picanto, Harve in myvi and Paul should be in iriz driver seat
Rakyat has rejected Proton. Now beg China to help. But Boyue also cannot sell globally. Only can sell in China. How?
How to sell 500,000 Boyue by 2025?
Top 10 Reasons Why Rakyat Prefer Perodua:
10. Perodua never blame the rakyat except themselves if sales is low.
9. Proven quality dual-vvti timing chain engine jimat minyak 20km/liter without leaking turbocor whatsoever.
8. Proven quality auto gearbox far cheaper to maintain than those noisy jerky CVT with twice or triple more expensive gear oil.
7. Perodua never ask RM billions and billions soft-loans from govt whenever making huge gigantic sinking losses every year.
6. Perodua never re-test its ANCAP car twice if scored 1-star while giving silly excuse it is for previous and new model.
5. Perodua never give lifetime warranty if it cannot solve the power window problem.
4. Perodua will always have high RV (resale value) and low RV (regret value).
3. Perodua never quietly skip or remove top tether safety device only to be caught pants down by ANCAP later.
2. Perodua never become overly delusional by promising flying car which is utter nonsense and irrelevant to actual daily needs of rakyat.
1. Perodua never annoy buyers by keeping signal stalk on right-side, unlike others with left-side signal as if it can export 1 million units to LHD markets.
Iriz losing so much of money for Proton. Cut the line totally. Drop the car. At least you can save few hundred thousand ringgit in losses daily
10.P2 has cheapest car, no choice. Cheap thing no good
9.Pening pikir why cannot get 20km/l
8.Dino gearbox tech, even Vios got CVT.Noisy engine wit timing chain if rosak cost arm and leg
7.SO what, you jelly?
6.Textbooked test never same with real world scene
5.It is history but still got lifetime warranty – winrar
4.Go go mudah, dun have much difference
3.same as 6
2.P2 never admit detachable axlegate
1.So what, you jelly? No problem wit left signal stick
Answer ‘so what’ when no point to answer.. accept the fact that proton no where to compete to perodua..
Iriz is myvi killer backthen.. hummmm..
hello ohwai, sales figures speak for itself. 210,000 sales per annum vs 70,000 sales (half Government ordered)
You don’t have anything to say other sales figure? As somebody said above, your logic will claim your P2 is better than ferrari
Whoever buy a proton car,I’ll definitely look at their owner’s face..to see how dumb they are..
Just pray a lot if drive myvi it doesn’t collide with so much more solid Iriz. At that time, dumb or not is not important
BahahahahXD
Yeah yeah.. Myvi owners tend to get snobby on the road. Cilok2 tengah jammed..we know lar ur engine is from.Toyota.. But the road is not a racing track
Even local grads can give a good signal what the country wants.
https://paultan.org/2017/03/21/more-than-70-of-local-university-grads-choose-to-buy-foreign-vehicles-rather-than-the-national-car-proton/
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Mind your word mate. It reveals how your brain’s defecting response to what happening around you. Had a very hardship in your life since you start breathing ? With that harsh word I feel sorry for you to be a mistake of being yourself.
This guy tokmoh is berat sebelah. He Like to kutuk everything except his own Proton and Geely.
Proton cost the rakyat over RM20 billion plus another RM500 billion in opportunity cost ie rakyat could have bought cheaper cars since 1985
These are local government universities. Even the thousands of private colleges also say they want Perodua.
So the millenials and Y gen all want Perodua and reject Proton
Perodua? The young millenials are all pushing beyond their salary ranges for Honda Cities and Vios then proudly sharing ‘smoking’ tales in mamaks and kopitiams.
Tokmoh was also damn right about kids using ptptn money on iphones. This applies to ALL the races btw.
Now we see who is kuat kencing here. Kejap kata graduan pilih non-national car, kejap kata pilih P2 pulak
Topkek
Myvi engine is same Daihatsu/Toyota family engine, but much lower HP and Torque engine compared to Vios.. Lower grade same family, not same engine.. Toyota is also smart..
Can outside do tune ECU , to more hp and nm.
No use coz cannot get 20.1km/l. Tuning is dangerous later kaboom
tuning increase around 5-10%,dont care about 20.1km/l ,even ori no do tuning also can’t get 20.1…. disappointed when drive up hill like genting, sure you tekan more and the new 1.5 advance power feel lose 1st gen myvi 1.3 (ps i own both) . honestly, and the warranty void i think i dont care,coz i very confidence the new myvi quality.
Just read around, you can see Myvi drivers are complaining about FC. They can’t even reach 14.5km/l unlike PT review.
Perodua customers when they go to SC to complain of anything
Customer: “Encik, saya punya wiper tak boleh jalan”
Perodua SA: “Saya minta maaf Encik wiper anda rosak. Biar kami siasat dan kami akan memperpaiki wiper Encik. Walaubagaimanapun, kami ingin berterimakasih dengan Encik kerena pilih untuk memiliki kenderaan Perodua”
Proton Customer: “Encik saya punya wiper rosak”
Proton SA: “Biasalah bang ini Proton. What do you expect?”
ha ha ha ha….biasalah bang ni Proton. I have heard that so many times in Proton SC
Ha ha ha ha , Jepunis and celup where got quality nowadays.
Not sure if jepunis got quality nowadays but damn sure proton got no quality before, now and forever.
Agreed. For others, still lots of improvement required if they wanna stay competitive
Sales figure give the answer.
Pipu buy P2 coz it is cheap not because it is good
Pipu don’t buy P1 even it is cheaper. You genius formula can’t apply at all.
70,000 P1 customers disagree with u.
208,000 p2 buyer agree with you.
1.24 Million Geely customers disagree with u
1.24 mil geely customers dont even know what proton is.
There is a great difference between “sold” and “booking’. Even in perodua’s own wildest wet dream they could’nt have sold 60,000 myvis in 2 months.
Malaysian buyers are low standard, never used sales volume to judge which car is best.
Malaysian buyers are low standard, never used sales volume to judge which car is best.
https://paultan.org/2018/03/08/proton-persona-one-mans-tale-of-love-at-first-sight/
My daughter just came out of University, she herself told me all her friends are buying Myvi.
Not a single friend of hers is buying Iriz.
So naturally, she will buy a car similiar to all her friends so that they can exchange tips
Real owner experience repoted by PT > fake news SA
fake news is the person who goes saying Malaysia has the cheapest petrol in the world and Iriz sales are super good
So says the person that P1 majority sales is from gov fleet but PT burst that fake news bubble when they repoted 97.5% sales comes from retail end customers.
https://paultan.org/2018/01/08/proton-sales-result-end-2017/
PT real news > fake news SA
This is rich… The figure announced by proton them self. you think PT audited Proton sales figure?
Cakap senang. This is in black and white on PT. Wheres ur data hmm?
–> https://paultan.org/2017/03/21/more-than-70-of-local-university-grads-choose-to-buy-foreign-vehicles-rather-than-the-national-car-proton/
Local grads hi nose wanna get jepunis, but instead burden themselves and their parents with unnecessary debts then complain why everything so exp, ini salah gov. Oso when got no money wanna payback PTPTN loan then complain why kena from going for their round Europe vacation. Topkek mentality.
see who are the majority defaulters of PTPTN loan. Then you will understand better
Majority r owners of Mivis. So?
Dear PT team, how does the Myvi ASA works when stopping at 60kmph? I have seen a many new Myvis having frontal collision accidents and was wondering if ASA was working as they advertised so much.
it only works below 30kmh.. more then that car workshop tauke is smiling
So what Gary bro seen is that ASA is not really AEB but just Low Speed Collision Mitigation system lah. P2 kuat tipu their customers saying it can help save them. Then those new Mivi owners lanyak keta and tiong others within 1cm gap, thinking ASA can save them in case of emergency brake. Later they says its user problem not car fault. We see what they did there…
Dear PT team, how abt Car aircond review too next comparo? M’sian consumers treat this a top criteria when buying a new car.
Already said in the video under 30 kmh. It’s meant for those traffic jam accidents that make the traffic jam worse when the wanker decides to just leave the mildly crash cars there in the jam as “proof”
What Malaysian drivers need to to do is keep a one car distance. Collision free and safe driving keeps your car safe and your driving commute less stressful. Less traffic jams on the roads due to accidents.
When their SA claims the car will brake for them autonomously, u think new owners will wanna keep distance?
What happened to the Picanto towards the end of the report – badly cracked front windscreen (@ 19:23)?
We hit a stone kicked up by a lorry while filming, unfortunately.
Aiyah,fellow Victorian Hafriz….come to my shop,I can loan u any car ,from Rolls Royce to Myvi…windscreen…sup sup sooi….tahan lasak..wont crack leh.
Trust me.My son,fellow Victorian and same year Fifth Former with HIS EXCELLENCY Paul Tan.
Small cars like this must come with a manual version to be enjoyed fully. It’s unfortunate that there isn’t any.
The picanto is the best but suffers from poor rv. The Iriz and Myvi just look shitty.
What? Manuao trasmission?
The Myvi won?!! How would big boss john handle all this shock?!! Blesphemy! The chinese backed proton should be game changing and hence superior.
But enough of that, when it comes to these cars, practicality and reliability as i see it, trumps all. And the increasing amount of Myvi, top spec of all, on the road proved Malaysians already have an increasing fondness to the Rawang based manufecturer.
Both Iriz and Espacially the Picanto is a perfect substitute to the seas of Peroduas, but the Myvi still offers the better value and of course, reputation. Yes brand identity may still be there but hey, thats why some people buy Mercedes & BMW over Lexus and Volvo
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with the number of lies Proton tells, I doubt whether i want to believe this.
Geely don’t lie. When they bought Volvo, lao ban Li Shufu was made to promise Volvo CEO verbally to protect their jobs in Sweden, not put in writing in the agreement. He could’ve ignored it, move them all to China.
He not only protect their jobs, he went on mass hiring, approved nearly usd11bil on investment into Volvo. 8 years since, Volvo is on a roll, 3 years in a row breaking record sales, profit, winning many awards for their new gen products.
The night is darkest before dawn, and I have absolute faith dawn will come to Proton as well. The rest of the competitors better start getting worried!
Hahaha! They can do nothing but pee in their pants while furiously downvote ur comments. Let them be.
Firstly, Proton workers and Swedish workers are very different. Volvo Swedish workers are hardworking
Proton workers…are very used to slow lifestyle. Relax and enjoy working life.
It is not the same. Even with Geely helping Proton, Proton can’t get far. They say 2020 sales projected to be 200,000 from 70,000. Last month only sold 3000 plus cars
By the way, competitors nothing to worry about. Perodua uses Toyota VVTi engine sold in 200 countries globally
Geely cars and engines are rejected in US, whole of Europe, Australia, Japan and other first world countries.
They can only be sold in China and few third world countries in small numbers.
They are so insecure, I can sense so much fear in them as they downvote my comments.
They see they cannot shake my confidence, they became scared. Deep down, they know the future I speak of is very possible and realistic. If it becomes true, they will have so much to lose.
At all cost they gotta shut me up, but the truth shall prevail. Dread it, run from it, destiny still arrives!
syiok sendiri tokmoh. Just like the CEO and CFO and COO or Protons. All full of confidence with the launch of Perdana, and Ertiga.
Now all flop. Malaysians don’t want China car. Do you see Haval and Cherry selling well?
That alone shows to you, Malaysians don’t want China car
Fear leads to anger,
Anger leads to hate,
Hate leads to suffering,
Suffering leads to Dark Side.
The light of P1 will shine on their crappy cars and consumers will eventually see the Light.
@Hisham : if you have been here long enough, i was a harsh critic of Proton. If they do wrong, i don’t hold back.
But this time they’re doing the right thing. By joining the Geely family, they are on a path towards greatness unlike never before.
Last time, nobody can imagine themselves using China phones, but today Huawei, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo etc Chinese brands conquer the smartphone market.
It will happen with car industry, people buy quality, not nationality. Volvo is Chinese owned, that fact did not stop them from breaking record sales and profit the past 3 years in a row. People buy more Volvo now, they are confident with it.
Geely is improving their products are record breaking pace themselves.
Unlike Haval and Chery, Geely have access to Proton’s assets : its production facilities, sales network, etc. They even manage to get more dealers to upgrade to 3S and 4S, pouring in millions in anticipation of new Proton-Geely era. That wouldn’t be possible without confidence that you can win, and something Haval and Chery never did, and that’s why they failed.
@john : may The Force be with us!
can see john and tokmoh are one team or the same person even by tokmoh statement……”@john : may The Force be with us!”
syok sendiri statement whilst tokmoh says he is neutral and speaks truth only
Hello tokmoh, Malaysians will never risk RM100k on a china ca. Buying China handphones like Xiaomi and Huawei is only RM599. If the handphone is lousy, can just buang into the tongsampah as it is only RM599k
If your China made car is lousy, how to buang RM100k into the tongsampah?
Malaysians will never take the risk to buy a RM100k China car.
Mates, jom get a room. Got your back 2
Hahaha! I wish I cud reach the esteemed level of tokmoh. U noobs have no idea who tokmoh is yet accuses him of this and that. I will leave PT bossman himself to sort u out.
Save countless lives ? Aiyor why Iriz cars in so many accidents when they sold so few ?? …must be something wrong with the car…. making it so obvious you a Proton troll that gaji buta and too buta to see the contradiction you wrote. Pathetic
If you bother to educate yourself, you will know i speak of truth.
You meanwhile, speak of ignorance, and selective blindness. There are far more accidents with Myvi, many fatal. But you chose to ignore that and claim iriz get involved in so many accidents.
Yes, i don’t get paid telling the truth about proton, rather i pay money like any other customers. All the more reasons my words are reliable and truthful, while you only spew hatred and lies!
tokmoh, this is a car blog. We are not interested in your life. Cooment on things like engine, FC, handling etc
ToyotaP2 troll accusing eminent member tokmoh of being a troll. Lolz!
how do we know you speak the truth? All your postings are one sided. Always condemning Perodua and keyboard warrioring Proton with good comments.
So, again I ask you, how to we know you speak the truth?
The liar wanna call me liar? You think i can’t tell you’ve been here under many pseudonyms like Kunta Kinte, Periasamy etc? Your name don’t last long and keep changing is telling of your character. Let’s see how long your Bhagawan Singh name last.
I have nothing to hide, i maintain my same name since i found this blog back in 2005. Paul Tan himself can verify that. I am putting my reputation at risk here.
The fact nobody wanna criticise Perodua is telling people here are either cowards or lack critical thinking. People should never let Perodua be comfortable, they will become arrogant and treat you badly. So remind them occasionally they owe their success to the people and therefore must treat the people respectfully.
And who said I’ve never said bad things about Proton? Dig back 2016 posts especially, you will find me bitching a lot about the agony of my ownership with my Iriz, about how drb is so incompetent, like headless chicken that don’t know how to manage Proton.
Yet, i have no problem swallowing back my pride and call a spade a spade. I think proton now is in good hand with Geely, and i have faith things will work out well. If it is wrong to be honest about that, then i don’t want to be right.
True dat bro tokmoh. Lazy to reply yet another fake name. But if u read closely here, theres more than a few…
I am so bored reading essays from people who got personal agenda.
Don’t use this comment section to vent your frustrations in life. Go and call Befrienders
tokmoh always attacks every brand except Proton and Volvo. And he blow his own trumpet saying he tells the truth.
No 1 basher of Honda says he is neutral
When you can’t win me by facts, just personal attack me.
I think that is telling who is right here.
Hisham…Please forgive him, he cant afford a Honda. Never driven any cars but a Proton since 1987.. Built up a lot of anger and vindictive over others
One fake name issuing statements sapoting another fake name, on and on. All just tin kosong, making lotsa noise. Im surprised bro tokmoh took the time to reply so often.
I have a bit of free time, and I find it entertaining.
This is what I said way back in 2012 :
“Talk kok sing song one la this guru besar sekolah pondok kampung jin tendang.
How to sell 200,000 cars, way more than jaguh kampung perodua? He think he can outsell myvi is it? What, introduce back saga LMST aka keter kebal? Sell car ala MLM style?
Who the fark wants to partner with proton when they’re so messy and quality drop like shit. Preve engine bocor so famous, dafuq is this shit? Global car, but already almost half a year still not launched not even in our neighbors like Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand etc. People just want their tanjung malim plant, then can discard them without a single fucuk given at all.
What’ve you done to Lotus aside from hiring your dog with unconvincing background and open clothes store in London? So now Lotus don’t make cars, but become fashion store like H&M, Uniqlo, Topman la? You bangga la get free trip to London shopping at Selfridges, Harrod’s and sorts?”
https://paultan.org/2012/09/24/drb-hicom-planning-foreign-partner-for-proton/
Then I gave my support for Geely in Oct 2016 when DRB said they’re looking for FSP :
“Volvo > all
So I support Geely. They’re good owner of Volvo, hence why newer Volvos are great.”
https://paultan.org/2016/10/04/proton-to-be-more-competitive-with-foreign-partner/
My utter disappointment when Geely was losing interest :
“Since Geely lost interest, ayam too butthurt to comment about this matter.
Only this i say : you’ll regret kaw kaw for turning down the best ever opportunity u ever had.
Continue syok sendiri thinking u can become jaguh global, when perodua and honda dabao your sales at home.
Geely > all
Volvo > all”
https://paultan.org/2017/03/08/proton-can-compete-internationally-but-needs-a-foreign-strategic-partner-to-do-so-says-think-tank/
When DRB insisted Geely was still interested :
“Syok sendiri statement to prop up their share price.
Tak sedar diri, sendiri no value, they should go beg on their knees to ask other people buy proton, instead they make all sorts of stupid demands that turn off the buyers. Ptuik.”
https://paultan.org/2017/03/24/drb-hicom-announces-that-all-proton-fsp-bidders-are-still-in-the-running-is-geely-still-in-the-picture/
My overjoyed reaction to Proton joining Geely family:
“WOOHOOOOOOOOOO
Geely > all
Volvo > all
Lynk & co > all
And now,
Proton > all
EXCELLENT!! ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!
*hellmarch.mp3*”
https://paultan.org/2017/05/24/proton-to-be-acquired-by-chinas-geely-deal-includes-purchase-of-49-stake-plus-takeover-of-lotus-report/
You can say I u-turn, flip flop, spineless, whatever, but I have demonstrated myself to be honest with what I say.
I’m not like some haters here that spread lies, exaggerate fictional numbers. Once they accused Volvo being China made, they lied they went to showroom and see the windscreen is made in China. Then someone who seems to work at Volvo’s windscreen supplier verified it fake, they’re made in Malaysia IIRC, and they’re very tough unlike the fake claim of it being lowly China junk.
Hehehe. Me too. I find it quite interesting when trolling THAT resident troll.
ToyotaP2 SA says hi RV & T badge in front can saves lives. 60,000 pipu belip in this.
Yes john, we believe everything you have been telling us past few years
Tenkiu for truth listeners.
Agreed. With sound facts and verifiable links, john has proven to be an island of truth in the sea of lies and senseless hatred by these zombies whom are blinded by branding and salesmen sweet talks.
OMG….Brian….you sound like john. Nobody will praise him for he has given so many false facts over the years.
From the number of upvotes you give yourself Hisham, we clearly know who you and your cohorts are. The same funny, insecure, sad little troll. Who has nowhere else to play except coming this site spewing lies and hatred. I can only feel pity for such an existence.
Tenkiu too bro Brian. Glad to have level headed readers.
Keep saying lies.
If u read long user comments such as tokmoh below, its like while Mivi is the girl u wanna date but Iriz is the girl u wanna marry and live ur whole life with.
Iriz isnt a looker or anything outstanding but it grows on u fondly. Not something a Mivi owner can say about their car thou…
only things that grows fondly is the time spent in the SC fixing problems and the RV grows more southwards
Spend time in SC fixing problems or spend eternity down 6ft due to lousy car body. Which u prefer?
I prefer driving car on the road than driving to SC.
I beg to differ.P1 is the one you choose with your eyes. P2 is the one you choose with your head instead. I’ve learned my lesson after owning both brands.
To both John and Tokmoh
Honestly, why do you two try so hard to convince people to choose and Iriz over the Myvi? Insecurities, fear or cultivating Proton fan boys? I know people with both Irizes and Myvis, and both are a damn good car for their price tag. They have their strength and their weaknesses and if a Myvi were to be as inferior as you make it to be, than people would begin moving away from them in favour of the competition just like how people move away from Proton to Perodua back in 2005, Malaysians are not that stupid, we pay for the better deal.
Like Sam Loo before and one crazy guy harping about Honda and BMW before(forgotten the name) with their cult like head banging on one very brand, is just annoyance and I dont think this kinda of comments and fear mongering in comments should be left to read in a public website. The internet is a toxic place, but it begins with one initiative to be more open-minded, interactive and understanding, three factor you all lack. And if there is anyone with a credible source from Proton I would trust, that would be Aero, not neither of you.
Paultan remains one of the most informative and credible automotive-focus news outlet in Malaysia, thou sorry to say, they’re lacking the ‘enjoyment’ factor abit lately. The biggest surprise is that they haven’t yet banned cult-like propaganda comments like this yet. I have no reputation in this comment section, is just a username, an opinion to give with an option to take some in, nothing more, and is the same with everybody in the comment section, so please, take this comment as the same.
Thanks, AVH.
Yes, we’re moving towards a more serious approach, as that fits our tone better. Plus the response has been positive, for the most part. We’ll still inject some humour where it fits, of course.
Is abit monotonous for my liking, but I do not speak for the majority nor a minority. Keep up the good work Hafriz, It is still very informative and I a go-to for any would be buyers. Cheers.
I only harp for safer cars. Dun u want that too?
But ToyotaP2 has been late to this game and yet pipu dun see that, deswai im here to educate them on prioritising safety above all other criteria. P2 efforts is a reaction to P1’s lead in safety and their disingenuous shows. Their SA continuous bashing on other brands dun help cuz when u think of it, hi RV, jepunis smell, gud FC, “superior” reliability, cannot be taken to the grave.
So is my interest too, for safer cars.
I have criticized Perodua in the past, and I will continue to do so for them to not take their success for granted, there is always room for improvement.
I have criticized Proton too, and I use facts as basis for my opinions.
The fact is Iriz’s safety has been proven in real world crashes, and since the NVH and powertrain has been refined well enough, I see it is more than what it suggests on paper it is. You are free to disagree with me with facts.
I don’t lie unlike my critics, rather, I’m opening a path for people to think different. And that, is key for consumers to evolve to become more informed and wiser. I am saying it for everyone’s sake as consumers, and for Paultan writers to take note and improve their future content!
Now, regarding about being open-minded, interactive, and understanding. Am I not open-minded and interactive enough to answer you and my critics head on, and on the issue at hand at that? The critics get triggered and initiated personal attacks, so I take it that they dislike my inconvenient truth. On understanding, I understand enough Myvi has the upper hand, but what, let it be? Status quo? Where’s the critical thinking ability? What is left to understand when they don’t answer me?
I can accept if they say “myvi is still safer than before, so it is progress. That 2km/L better fc than Iriz do stack up over the long period. 4 speed auto has proven reliable long term, CVT less so”, but I get no such response. If we wanna talk about the cars… we talk about the cars. Is that clear?
To Tokmoh,
After reading your reply, I decided to grab a cup of coffee and re-read what you have written prior to this. Now as I see the comment section of Paultan being very rhetoric of the local automotive world and prior to this, reminded that you are trying to ‘troll’ the community. From my point of view, it seems excessive, there are points but it becomes more of an envy of the Myvi’ success.
Amongst the many lines I scour in your comments
“Not this time. Partnering with Jepunis is the problem, they only care about themselves.”
“People should never let Perodua be comfortable, they will become arrogant and treat you badly.”
“People should never let Perodua be comfortable, they will become arrogant and treat you badly.”
I must admit, there are critical thinking, but is mainly just furiously justifying the Iriz’s superiority. Its a very one sided debate, and of the many(and I do apologize If i miss it) comments you written, there is no sense that you agreed to the Myvi’s stregth and of those, you quickly dismissed it and begin trying to stress on their ineptitude.
An example:
“Perodua is successful because it gave customers what matters most : good fc, affordable service, spacious, practical interior, that’s it. That makes it so in demand, hence strong RV.
People are willing to overlook any flaw as long as these basics are covered…….”
And you went on to stress their weaknesses. No car is perfect and this is always certainly the case in these price range. But you go on and on trying to burn it the Perodua down until it becomes a flame war and, as selfish as I am for saying this, loosing my ability to expect any proper dialogue on the subject, of course, now that I think about it, is very foolish of me to expect a strong dialogue in a comment section.
What has been said has been said about the Myvi. I have disliked Perodua in the past, my family’s Alza has brakes made out of toilet paper, but the Myvi’s improvement goes beyond their usual practises that it breaks my mould on how I see Perodua’s bigger hetchback. My Girlfriend always tease me to buy a Myvi so I can eat my previous motto, which was “I will never buy a Perodua”. And as I said, if Proton does well, than may Proton be on the to spot. I’am a huge criticiser of Proton, and mainly their management in the past, but until I see Geely rubbing off that stubbornness and begin showing results, I have myself ready to repent.
We are only people of opinions in this website. We do not possessed the market knowledge nor insight as some, and if we do, no credibility to prove it base only on our avatars and username. You are an intelectual person, but from where I am reading, you can choose to ignore the stupid, rather be drag down and look stupid. Of course I couldn’t be less bothered with John’s comment now.
“And you went on to stress their weaknesses”
Because nobody else did, and I find that unsettling. Perodua have come out with statements before that left me utterly disgusted. I was furious when they implied they want to take legal action against the German expat for pointing out the danger of then Myvi’s optitron meter. In the facelift, they changed it, so they do admit he was right, yet they repaid his kindness by threatening legal action?! And btw, I praised Perodua for fitting in headlamp indicator on the meter panel for this myvi in sn earlier post about sneak peak of this myvi IIRC.
Then the CEO said they’re committed to safety, but not 5-star. Topkek.
I think my critics have said more than their fare share of support for Perodua, but I see vulnerable spots. The moment I mirror their fact with how Geely is doing in its own domestic market, they just lose their mind. So Perodua is ok, wonderful, amazing to be jaguh kampung, but Geely is rubbish for being jaguh kampung. They call me biased, yet they can’t see their own biasedness, how ironic.
I don’t want Perodua to be like Tengku Mahaleel-era Proton, arrogant and foolish. If people just blindly be kind and grateful to them, I think the risk of Perodua being complacent is much higher. I think I have been fair to criticize lack of front central cupholder when even smaller Picanto have them, then about poor placement of usb port at driver’s seat, just now I saw another owner post on fb it broke.
If my critics wanna say I am biased, then correct me with irrefutable, sound facts that will force me to yield and acknowledge. I acknowledge their cars have good powertrain that is reliable, frugal fc, affordable, spacious, but for many other matters, I feel it best to be cautious.
“you can choose to ignore the stupid, rather be drag down and look stupid”, I dunno man, I can’t sleep that night, then I saw this video. Why not just pour out my thoughts on each car, of which if you notice, I personally really like the Kia (albeit an assessment on previous gen, I am making assumption the new gen builds up on it), but I was blunt how Naza’s terrible after sale reputation turns the brand off. A commenter down below seems to agree with me on this.
I just write them for kicks, I don’t really care the name calling, personal attacks, downvoting, rather I quietly enjoy it, it’s a form of victory I feel, and toying and breaking them down feels good.
I will admit, me trying to paint Iriz being superior is kinda planting bait to trigger the haters, but I have been meticulous enough to ensure my facts are straight, and if discussions do become serious, I can stand by my words. Their reactions thus far though, is pure gold.
For you, I’m happy we get to discuss in this manner. I am honest and obvious with my allegiance, safety is my passion, Volvo, Geely and others associated are my personal favourites, toying with haters is quite my favourite pastime here.
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Mivi brake judder problem never solved since Day 1. Dangerous braking from 80~90km/h, steering shaking like OSIM chair wei!
conclusion is, the Polo has all the credentials of these 3 cars. good fc, spacious, practical interior of myvi. ride and handling of iriz. last but not least, nvh and refinement of picanto. period
Polo still more exp. but if compared to Jepunis, get Polo better.
Hahaha the Tokmoh troll took a long time to type and type……probably didn’t eat his breakfast and dinner. But it’s hidden due to poor rating… Typical Proton .. Onzz sendiri tapi no one cares
P1 dun have SA with so much free time to furiously downvote other pipu comments. Toyota on the other hand…
When cannot win by facts, just personal attack and made a fool of yourself.
If you look at the timestamp, I posted that at 12:20am, just before going to bed. I am not losing any breakfast and dinner, you sure have strange eating time for breakfast and dinner.
It doesn’t bother me you guys wanna thumb be down, the truth will prevail anyway. It changes nothing by being hidden by your cowardice.
tokmoh is just a biased Proton fanboy. Try to write long long but real tin kosong
Tokmoh loves to blame the world for everything. Tulis panjang panjang but like to attack everyone who rebuts him
Sales figure of 1.1 million Myvi shows Myvi is a good car
1 keyboard warrior talking a lot against Myvi shows….no modal
Pipu buy P2 coz it is cheap not because it is good.
Best episode of Driven! …yet…
Janganlah letak iriz sekali.
Why? You afraid Myvi ends up like those Vios zoo syiok sendiri racing? LOL
Yeah next we’ll see Myvi syiok sendiri pulak. The result is already known even before race:
1.Myvi
2.Myvi
3.Myvi
4.Myvi
5.Myvi
Hahahahaha
Sadly all these cars are slower than the civic 1.5 turbo. In fact even the Jazz 1.5 NA or hybrid is also faster than all of them.
Pls la bro. Those car cost almost twice as higher as those 3 in the video
What? Why compare this NA engine cars with civic 1.5 turbo? You know, proton iriz is the best hatchback in the world. Say good bye to VW polo 1.6mpi..
Civic turbocor.
Bro, the current Jazz GK5 petrol is still running using the outdated SOHC engine from the dinosaur age except the Hybrid model.
Of course Honda’s are faster than all of them, its one class above and Honda is considered a Luxury branded vehicle in Malaysia.
Tokmoh. I agree with u. 100% naza is a nuisance. Parts. Ordering super slow up to one month
Perodua until now cant design & produce their own engine. Always use toyota/daihatsu. Shame.
At least perodua give reliable fuel efficient engine. Not like proton give people problematic campro engine & drink petrol like crazy!
I will buy picanto after watching the video.
Good testimony by paultan
Thanks driven
Thanks naza for making picanto affordable
My neighbour has kia caren and rondo. He said naza ok with. After sales. he always sent to damansara kia.
Think safety of famili.
Picanto got HPF body – pass
Iriz got HPF body – pass
Mivi with milotin body – fail kawkaw
Malaysians don’t bilip in the HPF marketing video. Video is video. What happens in real life is something else.
We are fed up with Proton’s lies
Picanto – cvvt engine
Myvi – dual vvt-i engine
Iriz – campro vvt engine fail kaw kaw
I choose myvi
Engine lousy – poket koyak
Body lousy – nyawa koyak
Still prefer Mivi?
1 million happy Myvi owners vs 1 frustrated keyboard warrior.
I think I will trust the 1 million happy owners
Pipu buy p2 coz it is cheap not because it is good
Cheap aa? I think P1 cheaper. But still people go for P2.
1 million buyers all say very good and high quality. If they bilip Proton uses HPF method, they would buy it. But they don’t bilip in marketing propaganda of hot pressed steel
They buy P2 coz it is cheap, not because they dun belip HPF
The NVH in myvi really need to be improved if they are honest want to make it on par with city or vios.
U get what u pay, and Mivi is just a cheap car.
so says the person who says Malaysia has cheapest cars in the world and Iriz sales are so high
So says the person that P1 majority sales is from gov fleet but PT burst that fake news bubble when they repoted 97.5% sales comes from retail end customers.
https://paultan.org/2018/01/08/proton-sales-result-end-2017/
PT real news > fake news SA
So 2.5% comes from fleet sales you say Forget all the countless of Government departments. Lets only just see PDRM. PDRM alone orders 8000 cars per annum
If total sales is 70,000, 8000 cars is about 12%
But you say 2.5%?? Mana betul ni?
Where got 8000 PDRM ordered p1 cars? Gip proof pls
Proton is a disgrace. Get so much of Government help and orders also still cannot sell more than 70,000 cars per year
PT link shows fleet sales only 2.5%. Theres all the proof i need.
Wheres ur proof that PDRM order 8000 per annum? And dun tell me to come see it in ur cave.
U pay 55k and u want everything the best. Pls la, go n make ur own car then!
From the video, isn’t the the other 2 cars have better sound proof? Go n check the owner reviews in other forum. Mostly complain about the rattling sound.
I will give my money to whoever can give me 2.0MT NA SUV or Sedan. Auto & semi auto not keen as I prefer 3 paddles.
I don’t know Iriz still exist!
Apa tu Iriz ? Mata bola ?
https://paultan.org/2018/03/08/proton-persona-one-mans-tale-of-love-at-first-sight/
Paultan, ur reviews are ridiculously boring. All3 of them look like robots driving the car. No emotion, no feel, no nothing. Its like as though they were so scared of forgetting what to say. All 3 of them are playing it too safe its boring.
U guys should do a drag race. Some people are gng to say its a family car, not for racing bullshit. But a dragrace shows the performance of a car immediately.
All those rear legroom bullcrap aint gonna make or break a purchase decision. People know they are buying hatchbacks so they are not gng to expect much. Anything extra is a bonus.
For me the best all rounder is still the Myvi. Like it or not, its the best value for money car ever. And it has tons of Jap DNA which is the best.
The Proton is disgustingly horrible. Bad gearbox plus poor interior quality and u guys are harping about fun to drive? Pls la, get ur objectives right.
The Picanto as with all Korean cars is a disaster. For its price, it deserves to be sent back to Korea and dumped into their car scrapyard as with all Kias. It has the smallest engine yet its FC is worst than the Myvi 1.5.
And again u guys say the Kia has best ride? That is not relevant when even the engine is a disaster.
Well said. One has an engine sold in 200 over countries and the other has an engine sold only in Malaysia with the exception of few third world countries like Bangladesh
Buy myvi later pening kepala cannot get 20.0km/l. Even iriz is more frugal
Most so called car crazy here pick myvi?? So damn newbie and boring… I choose Iriz, most powerful and so fun to drive. Oh maybe most of you are old and slow.. yeah get steady pick myvi..
I would opt for superb handling compact car…because could not afford good handling cars like ford fiesta.
The only car that fits ur criteria is Iriz. Gud choice!
Malu la drive Iriz. Macam kete orang miskin tapi bajet hipster
Tak nak ar beli Myvi. Design takde originality, dpn copy kia blkg copy livina
Daihatsu sirion yang copy perodua myvi. Patut kita bangga!
Jepun sirion ≠ ASEAN sirion
Bulat2 dah kena tipu dgn Jepunis overlord, mashi tak sedar. Lantak korang.
Tin kosong, if myvi is good enough why don’t go to Australia or Europe?
Doe geely willing to rebadge iriz bro? Hahaha mimpilah…..
Satria Neo was sold in Nippon. Any P2 is sold back to homeland? Hahaha mimpilah….
Malaysians don’t bilip in the HPF marketing video. Video is video. What happens in real life is something else.
We are fed up with Proton’s lies
Conclusion: Beli jer Myvi.
Tak nak pening kepala, tak payah fikir2, beli jer Myvi!
Conclusion: Mivi might seem like someone u wanna have a fling but in the end, Iriz is the one u wanna marry and live with.
seems everybody is buying Myvi. They know Proton as a company might even close down. No support for their cars. By 2025 only Geely cars in msia. No Proton at all
Mitsu yundei kia etc tak close down pun
mitsu hyundai kia global company. Proton? Di kampung pun kalah!
Mitsiu bukan ke dah kena dibeli oleh Nissan? Kalah teruk di kampung Nippon wei!
This is a car blog, what rubbish talking about fling and marry.
Since when basher dun talk about marriage?
P1 wit Mitsu
P1 wit Honda
P1 wit Suzuki
P1 wit VW
hafix tolong
minute 24.26 why u don’t like picanto body coloured door pillar. They painted body color and it has more elegance but you say it is cheapskate low spec ?? In technical is myvi black pillar more expensive then body colored pillar (picanto) ?
and how much is myvi windscreen to replace with those cameras ? RM 3500 ?
how come stone can crack the picanto windscreen ? that cheapskate is it ?
It’s common practice to leave the door pillars in body colour for low spec models. Usually, higher spec variants get black door pillars, while more premium models get gloss black covers. Higher spec Kia Picantos in other markets have black pillars.
You won’t have to replace the cameras on the Myvi. Just that you have to send it to an Perodua service centre to replace the windscreen and recalibrate the cameras, instead of other independent workshops which may be cheaper. Anyway, it’s always recommended to go back to official service centres anyhow.
The Picanto’s windscreen was cracked by a rogue stone kicked up by a lorry during filming. Nothing to do with car’s quality at all.
So in the end your review concluded that kia picanto despite being smaller A category car excel in interior quality, better infotainment, better NVH, better gearbox and the only minus point is being small (which is obvious since it is a class smaller anyway).
Kia picanto handling is wayyyyyyy behind Iriz
When will SUV series is avalaible????
Soon :)
Wait for Boyue come.
Proton is all about waiting. From waiting for their savvy, suprima, iriz, perdana, exora,etc… all promising game changing models but failed in actual.
But then the wait is well worth it.
How soon?
How soon????
Picanto is A segment and it shouldn’t be here. Don’t tell me “Malaysians buy car based on price but not segment blablabla” kind of shit.
Just admit this is a shitty review, apologise, and move on. I notice that PT never admit their mistake and continue to do what they want to do.
Thumbs down
Not apologising, because we’re not wrong on this one.
Cheers.
Betul la Malaysians buy car based on price not segment. You have RM50k to spend, you target a Honda Jazz V for RM85k for what?
Like that, might as well compare to Peugeot 208 GTI kan? B segment also.
Now TT you apologise and move on.
Yup nobody buy Proton Iriz at Langkawi even at RM50K.
But there are P1 cars in langkawi, why ar?
Same reason why people don’t buy the Kelisa in UK even though it was sold at 5000 pounds, one of the cheapest cars in the market then.
Cross shop 1 segment up or down is normal, but why PT dun include Haval M4 (slightly cheaper) or Mitsu Mirage (slightly more exp)? Isit just to make Mivi look better in comparison? Bollocks!
We chose the 3 best contenders. No reason to make the Myvi look better than it is.
How is it better when pay a lil more, Mirage is a better car. Or if want value for money, Haval M4 is the best there is? A bit less bias pls.
We don’t agree with either of that. No bias here, buddy.
And besides, the Mirage is no longer on sale, and the M4 (now the H1) is now more expensive (RM60k for the base model, RM73k for the Elite), so it’s no longer such a value buy.
Mirage no longer on sale? When was this announced?
Both the Mirage and Attrage were quietly phased out in 2016/2017.
What a sad fate for Mitsu, that used to make iconic sports sedan. Now staid sedan pun takde.
A-seg hatch:
– Perodua Axia
– Proton Savvy
– Kia Picanto
– Hyundai i10
– Honda Brio
– Suzuki Celerio
– Nissan March
– Mitsubishi Mirage
– Tata Zica Tiago
– Geely Panda
– Changan BenBen
– BYD F0
B-seg hatch:
– Perodua Myvi
– Proton Iriz
– Kia Rio hatch
– Hyundai i20
– VW Polo
– Honda Jazz
– Toyota Yaris
– Suzuki Swift
– Nissan Note
– Mazda 2 hatch
– Ford Fiesta
– Chevy Aveo
– Peugeot 208
– Skoda Fabia
– Geely MK hatch
– Chery Cowin
– Brilliance H220
– MG 3 hatch
– FAW Oley hatch
– BAIC D20 hatch
U do realise that majority of ur list not even on sale here, ever? Dun be lazy and copy bulat2 from wiki. D’oh!
The real question is; how many seg does your wallet have?
Picanto is too small.. the real rival between myvi and iriz not picanto.. actually is kia Rio.. picanto rival segment is axia..
People buy Perodua just bcoz it is super mainstream, that’s all.
I bought Iriz 1.3MT for it’s value.
Low in price but packed with stuff.
Not to mention all the achievement it get so far.
Definitely trustable.
Buy basic P2 doesn’t even hv radio lol
U sure u bought because of value? not because of your intelligence?
Myvi wins hands down – The Village Champion.
Jaguh kampung alrite!
Been waitin for Driven vid for far too long….thx for makin it
Entry car or 1st time buyer should go for Iriz, save ur life to get better car in future.
For the other Malaysians out there who dislike and complain day and night about the Perodua Myvi and Proton Iriz having a lousy brand image and low status car, Just buy the Picanto straightaway.
It is one of the most affordable Foreign or in this case Korean Brand New cars on sale right now.
Just saying. Peace and no offence to everyone here. Cheers ya.
soon to own one, thanks to PT driven
I think the Myvi’s advantage is that it can be assigned to being a family’s only car, whereas the other two are better suited as second cars. The Iriz for the sportier guy driver, and the Kia for his significant other. I love the Picanto although I find the tyre noise coming out of its stocked brands very annoying.
Myvi engine and gearbox more efficient, fuel save. Interior material a bit lousy, noise soundproof no good.
Iriz engine old tech, need to change timing belt. Interior more solid, soundproof is good, handling better.
Picanto tak payah lah..
So the better choice should be Myvi, cost saving and better rv, buy iriz if u planned to drive the car over 20 years.
omg y must fighting about car..not everybody like proton..same to produa and picanto..everybody have they own choice..u only want cheep car..if u want speed go buy ferari lo or lambo or bugati….but sometimes i saw ferari” hangus tepi jalan”…;p