Keretapi Tanah Melayu (KTMB) has banned bicycles from all Electric Train Service (ETS) and Intercity trains. This was stated in a posting on KTMB’s social media page.
No reason was given for the bicycle ban. The posting further states the facilities and capacity of ETS and Intercity trains are for passengers and luggage only.
Earlier, a blog posting from user amoithekampunggirl detailed her cycling group’s eviction from a KTM Intercity train on March 29 in Gemas. In the blog post, she wrote the group was aware of the restriction on bicycles carried aboard Intercity trains and packed the bicycles into luggage measuring 65 x 25 x 65 cm.
However, this was not allowed by KTM staff who inspected the sleeping coach during the journey. At Gemas station, the station supervisor accompanied by KTMB Auxiliary policemen boarded the train, telling the group to remove their bicycles or have them forcibly removed.
The group elected to disembark the train past midnight in Gemas and continue their journey by road, riding to Kuala Pilah, Negeri Sembilan. On the KTMB website, a schedule is posted with bicycles only allowed on KTM Commuter trains plying between the Pelabuhan Klang/Tanjung Malim /Batu Caves/Tampin/Pulau Sebang and Padang Rengas / Butterworth routes.
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Overzealous n counter productive without logic or sense. KtM n gamen FAIL again
Agreed. Why banning us bringing our precious muddy tyres mountain dirt bike boarding ETS?
In the blog post, she wrote the group was aware of the restriction on bicycles carried aboard Intercity trains and packed the bicycles into luggage measuring 65 x 25 x 65 cm.
Unable to read? Maybe you need visual aid? You can visit her blog that shows the bicycles packed in luggage bags.
http://amoithekampunggirl.blogspot.com/
Please teach him how to pack his mountain bike into luggage
the problem is they “assumed” that made an ass of themselves.
Are airplanes and trains the same?
Never “assume”… because it makes an ass u me!!
Stupid idea by a failed Gomen
One side say want to reduce emissions – increase public transport usage and/or beli EV. EV price 90% cannot afford. Another side never upgrade trains to accommodate bicycles. Yet another side can’t sort out punctual public transport for the last mile. Satu lagi side mau buat subsidi bersasar. Harga barang not regulated, suka-suka boleh naik, never turun. Woi lu semua cakap sesama lu orang sebelum tunjuk bodoh. Year after year doesn’t matter who is in government get this brainless ad-hoc decision making. Macam mana mau maju?
Funny when BN was in power for 60 years previously things in Gohmen was more coercive. I miss them
Boycott KTMB!
Boycott Madani!
We tried to use the ETS for our cycling trip one time and was told that bikes were not allowed. Only on the Komuter they are allowed. If you know the ETS, there is really no space to put your bikes in the coaches. The luggage rack provided is not that big and hardly any space for anything else under the seats. They should tap the cycling tourism market as it will definitely open up to more ridership. Although, ridership is not really an issue looking at those commuting Ipoh KL using the ETS.
niche market la. ets always full during weekend why need to accomodate cyclist? nonsense unless ktm can increase ets schedule or upgrade to double decker train
I would think packed bikes would be ok on trains. They should have luggage racks for this.
We think we good but still we behind in every things and still don’t want to learn from 1st world country.
Since the bicycles barred from entering , well there is another option too , bring lightweight scooters with a bag cover or EUC (Electric Unicycle) with or without bag also not a problem because none of the categorized as bicycle. Hahaha. The only rules is you know how to ride them.
Meanwhile, because ETS is long distance limited express train, basically the destination that you reached majority need a vehicles to travel somewhere. Unless you ride the special coach sleeper train that has bicycle facilities like some time ago , that will be good for those travel with bicycle.
Look at this document published on KTMB’s own website.
It’s a Condition of Carriage aka Contract of Carriage.
A contract of carriage is a contract between a carrier of cargo or passengers and the consignor, consignee or passenger. Contracts of carriage typically define the rights, duties and liabilities of parties to the contract, addressing topics such as acts of God and including clauses such as force majeure (removing liability for extraordinary occurrences beyond control of the parties.)
Nowhere is it stated specifically that bicycles are banned.
In fact specifically under Clauses 2.9 and 2.10 it states that passengers are liable for any injury (2.9) and for property damage (2.10) caused by “luggage or packages/items or bicycles” belonging to passengers.
What does this imply?
That bicycles are categorised similarly as luggage or packages/items.
That ANY injury or damage caused by ANY of these bear similar liability.
The very fact that bicycles are mentioned in the same clauses, implies that they can brought on just like other luggage or packages/items.
In fact, should not a folded bicycle packed properly WITHIN luggage, be considered as luggage or package?
Why the need to single out folded bicycles packed properly within luggage as though they contraband?
A Tiktok video viralled shows a KTMB officer complaining about luggage obstructing passageways. These are much larger than the bags in which most foldies are carried, yet they are not offloaded. Why the specific targeting of folded bicycles?
One may argue that there are notices or posters elsewhere that state that bicycles are not allowed.
But as these conflict with posted COC, they are at the very least confusing and at worst misleading. Added to that is the fact that KTMB runs many different train services, with some services where it’s allowed but not with others. Worse, even within the same services, there are certain routes and specific days and times when it’s NOT allowed.
That makes for confusion and misunderstanding.
KTMB should be more customer conscious instead of persisting in archaic mentality of dictating customers can do and cannot do what when and where at DIFFERENT times.
A few days ago one of my friends who travelled on a KTMB night train with a properly packed foldie within a bag, was unceremoniously offloaded at Gemas at ungodly hour of 1.30am by polis bantuan KTMB. Together with several 70+year old fellow foldie tourists they had no choice but to cycle through the night to their next destination. Unfortunately a day later perhaps due to fatigue he crashed while cycling and suffered a horrible multipart fracture of his shoulder.
Perhaps KTMB should be more proactive and determine what size luggage passengers can bring on and stop them even from boarding INSTEAD of offloading bagged folding bicycles mid journey in the dead of night, which would mean that their owners also disembark.
A few days ago one of my friends who travelled on a KTMB night train with a properly packed foldie within a bag, was unceremoniously offloaded at Gemas at ungodly hour of 1.30am by polis bantuan KTMB. Together with several 70+year old fellow foldie tourists they had no choice but to cycle through the night to their next destination. Unfortunately a day later perhaps due to fatigue he crashed while cycling and suffered a horrible multipart fracture of his shoulder.
Perhaps KTMB should be more proactive and determine what size luggage passengers can bring on and stop them even from boarding INSTEAD of offloading bagged folding bicycles mid journey in the dead of night, which would mean that their owners also disembark.
https://www.ktmb.com.my/passenger-condition.html
KTM need to bear at least some responsibility for allowing them to board with their folded bicycle neatly folded in their luggages in the first place. I don’t think it’s fair to force women out of the train in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere. Where has our Malaysian courtesy gone? At least fine them and allow them to get to their destination
Why are KTMB and madanon government so dumb and backwards. Many European intercity trains already have dedicated bike racks, meanwhile here you’ll get kicked out for bringing in bikes. This is absolutely ridiculous.
Excellent Fully agree