Something’s stirring in the air, and it’s an impending new fuel from Petronas. I’ve just spent the better part of the day at what was tagged an Experience to Believe event, organised by Petronas Dagangan, which teased the new fuel.
No details were revealed about the product, which the company says is inspired by F1 fuel technology. The only information that was managed was that it will offer improved acceleration and better fuel economy, and that it will be launched sometime next month (presumably, around the time the F1 Petronas Malaysian GP takes place – it’s simply the best time to shout it, no?).
The participants at today’s event were given a tankful of the mystery fuel to use in their own cars, and asked to provide feedback on what they thought about it, with a drive up to Bukit Tinggi part of the programme. As luck would have it, I’d just gassed up my ride a couple of days ago, so with almost a complete full tank there was no means to experience what the new offering was about. Yes, I know, the timing is just sucky, but happily Petronas has offered to gas up my ride next weekend, so there should be some notes about it when the fuel is launched.
Is it going to be a singular RON 95 or RON 97 product, or will the two current Primax forms be revised – and of course renamed – at point of launch? As mentioned, nothing was divulged, and though a hint was dropped that it was a RM1.90 product (which would make it a 95 fuel), the manner in which it was dropped suggests that it was likely a red herring.
What is improbable is that the new fuel will be an unregulated one like Shell’s V-Power Racing; to go down that path doesn’t make commercial sense, and 955 Petronas stations nationwide serving up the new fuel does make that one moot. In all likelihood, this will be Petronas’ version of what Shell worked with V-Power 97 – now, dare we hope for a 95 with significantly improved characteristics, while at that?
Guess we’ll find out next month!
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fight against with V-power ??? petronas dont want lose, and ron95 going increase price soon…
while libya crisis is getting worse, the increasing fuel price after sarawak election SUDAH PASTI
lol
many says fuel price wil lincrease after tenang by election.
so what happen lor? speculate only lorr
I DONT CARE BRAND OR MILEAGE OR ADDICTIVES USED BLA BLA BLA….
I WILL ONLY CHOOSE THE NEAREST AND MOST CONVENIENT PETROL STATION NEARBY………FULL STOP
Please dont stop.
Dear K3VET.
Government is the one who raise the price, not Petronas la bro…
Open your mind la….
When Proton introduce new car, ppl say new car price will be higher….
Proton jugak kena smash…
Now you wanna bash, bash the government agency la bro… they are the policy maker
Haha..at last RON97 user like me now have much better benefit from what we paid for.
What the hell u r talking about?
out of all current ron95 brands, which one is the best? im a noob
shell and esso. caltex well with cleaning agent.
is it true that one should not mix fuel of the same ron from different company? some says that mixing different brands in the sama tank can lead to clotting etc2 bcoz of the different additives…
I would highly recommend BHP, try it to believe…. :)
i hv tried..but shell and petronas,are better. others still havent tried in detail.
shell sucks big time! prefer petronas and bhp!
stay away from Shell! Bhp, esso n petronas better.
so far petronas has given me the furtherest mileage.
Sure? Why is it when I use caltex has better milage? Tried both, using caltex my engine is smoother.
yep. the furtherest i’ve been was nearly 1100km with a single full tank.
My personal observation, BHP and Petronas gave me the best mileage, while Shell gave me the worst for my 2.4 Estima.
However, Esso gave the best mileage for my 308Turbo and Savvy..
It depends on your filling up time and method.. better you do like this.
1. Fill up the tank until first click, using auto filling button (use the lowest notch).
2. Reset your mileage.
3. Fill up again once your car is empty, apply No.1 method of filling up.
4. Take reading of the mileage and volume of fuel.
5. Divide the mileage with the volume.
6. Repeat until 4 times.
7. Average it.
My Savvy = urban usage 13.9 km/liter, highway usage = 15.9km/liter
Optimum fuel consumption speed at 90km~110km.
Good god. What car are u driving?
Yours is 100 litre tank ah?
WOW !!! What car @ vehicle are you using?
a japanese saloon. it was a 40% town + 60% highway driving.
In my area, there are only Petronas and Shell. I find that Shell gives better power, but less mileage. Petronas on the other hand, gives better mileage, but less power. I use RON 95 for both Petronas and Shell.
Hopefully with this new formulation, we can get more power and more mileage!
personal small scale experiment using my honda and perodua……..for power surge definately goes for bhp………primax got both of both world…..esso and mobil felt more refine smooth but sedate power……shell 95 the power is the poorest of all…….quite addicted to bhp for its power and the confident it give but end up poor millage due to heavy foot………..for me millage not that important…i regards driving as part of relaxation therapy and enjoy every minute of it…….living in less congested state has its benefit………
I prefer BHP or Petronas for RON95. Shell is the one I avoid cause sluggy and not so save. My prefer ranking : 1) BHP, 2)Petronas, 3)Caltex 4)Esso. Shell not in ranking. only if tank near to empty and no choice, I will go to Shell.
Tried RON95 for a month and i’m on my 4th tankful … So far Petronas RON94 gave the worst mileage and engine feels rough, Next was Caltex95 the mileage was so-so it gave me 410km the best was a tie between Esso95 and BHP95 it gave 460-470km.
Each fill RM100 = 52 liters
wow.. ur car cant even go 10km/L
why are u surprised?
he looks to own a heavy midsized car or continental…judging from the fill up capacity.
given the usual undersized engines of these cars sold here, i’m not surprised of the rather poor fuel numbers especially if these were more city biased driving.
It should be an E46 330i SMG… :)
and if it was, then he hasn’t really driven it hard enough. :D
I have been getting single digit MPG (something like 6mpg – wasn’t really keeping track) when I was “sampling” an E46 M3 SMG at Mosport. Then again, my mitsu 4pot turbo wasn’t doing much better either. :p
ps. 6mpg = 2.5km/L….or 1.5L of fuel per lap on mosport…..
i think he is using an old continental car la…..many new continental car out there surpass 1/10km..
May be he is driving a petrol power bulldozer
they all the same. petrol in malaysia is all the same. shell n esso buy fuel from petronas and sell them with their brand. they suck ur money
You’re so wrong..
Shell and Esso have their own refineries and they churn out their own fuel..
I’ve been into both refineries before..
Both refineries are huge and they take pride in their products..
I agreed with you nEURO. Yes the oil might be the same content (surely Hydrocarbon!) but what make the oil from other makers differ is the additive they formulate for their oil
have you heard of Klang Valley Distribution Terminal? Ask anyone who works there the difference between Shell & Petronas fuel
I agreed with Ben. Being seriously involved in oil & gas industry I know the inside and out of the trade.
And YES, Shell is buying from Petronas for their fuel in Klang Valley area. Try filling up with Shell when you’re in other part of Malaysia and you’ll feel the drop in performance almost immediately. Petronas maintained their fuel quality across the country.
All company got cleaning agent in their fuel. Only dosage and quality that separates the best from the rest.
Cheers
Base oil is coming from the same tank, the only thing is the additive.
It just like making Milo, Horlick or coffee, all use the same hydrocarbon,
the different is only the flavor…
i work near there…its diff..i see from 8th floor from my work place
Well, PETRONAS has 2 refineries, in Terengganu and Melaka. Please don’t judge the efficiency of the fuel based on who has a refinery or not. It’s the additives that counts, as well as suitability of the engine with the fuel. Shell and PETRONAS share their base oil in Peninsular and also Sabah Arawak in case of supply shortage; only additives, detergents, aromatics and dyes that make them different.
I’d agree if you said that all of them sell dead dinosaurs extract…
what was sukun said is true. indeed the esso and shell have their own refinery in PD, but at east coast regional, all oil companies took their supply at the petronas refinery, same as case on PD refineries. the refineries in Malaysia have same std refining process, changing raw hydrocarbon into petrol, diesel kerosene etc., the differences is the additive (the secret recipe) put into the product during transfer into the tankers.
For me, doesn’t matter if I use Shell or Petronas or Caltex or Esso. I get the same mileage every time. 520km for 40L of mix urban & highway driving. Only problem is, since I live in Ampang and now work in KLIA, I travel 520 km in only 3 days!
time to go hybrid bro ..
Or else u might opt for a superbike, you could save the toll
What for, my daily toll is only 2.60 return!
hmm..
Why is it, seem that everything related to Malaysia @ Malaysian people own product, we the very own ‘Anak Malaysia’ thru words instead of giving facts, we love to babble and crooned about thus portrayed to the world almost like we enjoyed in degrading our own compatriot .. i can see why some opt to dis on Proton, but here Petronas. 500 Forbes company, world known brand… even when Chong Wei won over Lin Dan pun still we heard people around us said ‘lucky b*****d’, ‘nah, Lin Dan not 100%’… hisssssh
Anyway, all i knew is, i had no complain in using Petronas product.. it served me well, even give me a better mileage than shell & others (ron 95).. as for ron 97, Petronas drop to no 2, a little behind Shell in term of performance to my car, mileage still on par. well, im really lookin forward for this new F1 tech-inspired fuel. others brand.. hmmm either BHP @ Caltex.. tu my opinion la, org lain tak tau!!!
couldnt agree more
I dont agree that……….IF Toyota and Proton produce an exactly same car and same price,
only difference is the badge, WHICH you will buy !!!!!!!!
This is POWER OF BRANDING and marketing , not related to patriotism etc
brother.. just think,, what happen to Malaysia today without petronas? im using it 15 years edy, never let me down.
Different in fuel brand is very marginal. The analogy goes like this, u want to buy an item which available in your sibling’s shop and in a foreigner shop. The same item with different brand or logo. Where do u go? Think about it.
Petronas ron95 better mileage than Shell ron 95 ? Are you guys sure about that ?
Petronas ron 95 drink like water for my car, surely Shell gives better mileage.
I buy Petronas or BHPetrol because they are local companies, why send our hard earned money overseas? Besides, shell fuel is rubbish, they know their brand is strong and people will pump anyway thinking their car will become Ferrari.
No, people go to Shell just to win their luck on RM30k lucky draw every week.
Strong comment for someone else that opt for ‘overseas brand’ fuel.
Still, shell give better mileage for my car than petronas & i dont even bother about the contest whatsoever.
Sorry to say that I never wanted to support Petronas anymore because they shows discrimination on giving away the petrol dealership to mostly Bumi only.
you are wrong! my neighbour is chinese, dealer petronas station in machap highway!
Aren’t these other brands reinvesting in the country? :)
Btw, where does BHPetrol get their fuel from?
Hehe…
From my experience, this also depends on the car you drive, your right foot, driving style, car engine/tire etc condition, road/traffic condition etc.
TripleA,
How sure r u?
agreed, i’m using civic 8th, and i found that petronas ron 95, pour like water… finish just like that. lack of performance n less milage. i more prefer using caltex or bhp or at least shell to get better performance and also mileage. I think each engine reacts differently towards this fuel addictive. My i-vtec said, go for BHP!!! faster response, smooth, silent engine & better mileage.
Most Msian will opt for the company which dangles a prize ie cash or cars !!
Competitions are a con job but it sells !!
That’s the reality and brand loyalty only comes second
i pump what my company gives me …
there is one sore point though. while it may help some drivers, some new cars on the road is built to run RON92 so even ron95 (let alone ron97) is overkill….so the only real benefit is the cleaning properties in the fuel.
case in point the Civic 2.0. If it was setup to run ron95 with higher compression and timing advance, it would be making at least another 8-10hp extra from the DOHC mill (the higher compression 2.0 SOHC from the accord makes more power…).
I started using Petronas after Projet because both gave same power level which above the rest of the others
Caltex fuel gives the worst mileage! Very little additives in it now. They put a lot in during product launch to give a good impression. Not anymore though.
Shell, Petronas all WAY BETTER! just try do a comparison. I guarantee that Caltex will come up short.
I switch to Petronas back in 1995 from Shell. But I have no qualm to buy others if it is convenient enough.
All the mileage and power thing as we can see from all the comment is in the mind.
the perfomance or savings on fuel with whatever additives they use is at most marginal. therefore I fill up to the nearest station and convenience available.
Instead of this new petrol.Petronas should give us better diesel. Or is the government not allowing oil companies to sell better diesel, say, Euro4?
Ello LongJaafar,
U still have other option instead of Petronas Diesel.
We are discussing about majority interest here. RON95!!!!!
they just announce it rite…i think there are article on it in paultan….but it take several year before fully use…thai start planning and invest to switch to E4 since 2009 and commercialize either end of this year or early next year..if i not mistaken….i read in bangkok post, the date i don remember..changing to E4 not just changing fuel but they have to built new refineries for that purpose..that why i think many diesel car launch in thai
Why argue about which petrol is better? Cars come from different makes, even if it was from the same make, they would be in different states of tune and condition i.e. depending on how its modded or taken care off, etc. So they all will react differently to the different formulas and mix of blends provided by different oil companies… So use the one that does it for you la… Some also are indifferent and will just pump where convenient, and some are driven by loyalty card points…
pump 50% of ron97 and add in 50% of ron95.
What u’ll get is ron96.
hahahhaa :D
crazy talk! lol
lolz
can it be true? how abt Vpower and this brand new Petronas fuel? can it be real F1 fuel? hehe..
Where is diesel with Euro4?
pasal petrol pun gaduh…haiya…. naik basikal atau jalan kaki je…habih cerita…
I’m using petronas ron95 because i can collect double point from my credit card maybank petronas & my mesra card…. and i convert it to get free fuel…. hahaha
I suspect it will be an improvement for 95 and 97 with no additional costs.
Don’t think there will be racing ron 98+ onwards.
More like more detergents and additives that reduce the combustion chamber tempreture, valve lubritation and etc etc which would improve idling stability, acceleration, aid engine smoothness
n0 need to fight la.. we just discuss here ma… no one win and no one lose we here just to give our own opinion. :)
You use Shell, the money goes to Netherlands
You use Esso Mobil, the money goes to the US
You use Caltex, the money also goes to the US
You use BP the money goes to UK but now BHP the money will stay in Malaysia
You use Petronas, no question where the money goes.
So in conclusion, use BHP and Petronas. Great fuel..great feeling.. from Malaysia for Malaysia and the world.
so in Malaysia the $$ goes to your pocket?
Ha Ha Ha !!! That’s a good one !!!
i am using it now…><guess …what is the feeling ?? *.*
My family use Petronas Ron95, no problem.
crazyyyyy,ppl amended my comment on here !!!!!i was js saying
having ‘new formulated cheap fuel’ from Petronas for my car not knowing what composition in it is risky…>.<
ini paultan bro…tempat kita cari point nak belasah komen orang lain sambil2 baca pasal automotive industry…hahahhahaha
Its just rebranding themselves. Esso came out
with their “smart” fuel concept now its Petronas’s turn.
As always they will claim that it will give more mileage,
more power , more additives — everything more and better
than the previous one.
At the end of the day it all boils down to personal preferences
and that “feel good” factor.
Last and not least we will all be asking – when is the next contest ah !!
Is a Merc up for grabs ? :)
what if i say i fill rm 25 can go 200km using shell 95?using 4g91 engine…
Let’s hope it is a ‘superior’ 100 octane petrol…Price wise? A good and more easily available alternative to V-POWER?
Petronas Primax95 will be replaced with this new fuel, Primax95 X-tra.. Same price..
Primax95X-tra to replace Primax95..
another heavy politicized agenda?
Memang save & power >> new fuel F1 tech . Try jgn tak try