New SEAT Ibiza FR with 150 PS twincharged TSI
This is the new SEAT Ibiza FR, which sits just under the hot 180 PS Ibiza Cupra. Like the previous generation Ibiza FR, this new model also has a 150 PS engine but instead of the aging 1.8 liter turbo it uses a modern twin-charged 1.4 liter TSI engine (the Cupra also uses a twincharged 1.4) mated to a 7-speed twin clutch DSG. It even meets EU5 emission standards. SEAT have also fitted the Ibiza FR with the XDS system which uses the ESP system to brake the wheel that is losing grip to help with traction.
April 17, 2009 @ 10:21 am
Even a small 1.4L can produce 150bhp due to turbocharging & supercharging… Damn… Still i would like to own sirocco…
April 17, 2009 @ 10:23 am
like demio..am i 1st?
April 17, 2009 @ 10:54 am
to achieve 100hp per litre capacity is not new but the twin charge engine from Volkswagen group done it in a clean and torquey manner. The engine meets euro5 standard, fuel efficient, and at the same time providing meaty torque at all RPM range.
That is the new standard these days. The old days of revving to 8000rpm to have a taste of power is over because those engines have no torque, noisy, and not fuel efficient.
April 17, 2009 @ 8:26 pm
crazy lil beast
April 17, 2009 @ 9:18 pm
no doubt the new polo gti will have a similar configuration but with a different tune! 180bhp in a 1.4 TSI! that should be easily chippable to 200bhp??
i wonder, if the petrol engine stays around for the next 30 years, will we be seeing 600cc engines kicking out 180bhp?!?!?!
April 17, 2009 @ 9:57 pm
maybe the next 30 years
we will have nuclear powered engine
haha
April 17, 2009 @ 10:32 pm
maybe the next 30 years
we all at dalam kubur
April 17, 2009 @ 10:51 pm
droll: i’m not sure if the new polo gti will be 180 ps… this new ibiza has the 180 ps engine in the ibiza cupra. polo gti maybe 150 ps like this only because in the previous generation the polo’s power was equivalent to the ibiza fr, the 1.8t 150 ps engine.
April 18, 2009 @ 12:03 am
same engine as VW’s 1.4 TSI?
April 18, 2009 @ 9:04 am
[quote comment="231201"]
i wonder, if the petrol engine stays around for the next 30 years, will we be seeing 600cc engines kicking out 180bhp?!?!?![/quote]
Possible. I remember the Mercedes 300 Turbodiesel: 125hp out of 3000cc. At this time (20yrs ago) it was quite a lot.
Nowadays, a 2000cc Diesel (Audi/VW TDI) is 170hp…
April 18, 2009 @ 9:54 am
well, an internal combustion engine wastes about 60% of energy. which means a comparable 600cc engine that makes 90bhp today can produce 150bhp in theory. gonna be some interesting times ahead.
paul, i was basing my assumption for the new polo gti on the fact that the current version 9n3 had the cup edition which pushed 180bhp. at 150bhp, most of the hot hatch competition would be way ahead by the time this new polo hits the market. i think VW recognizes that the golf gti is beyond the hot hatch market already. it’s slowly creeping into C class territory.
April 19, 2009 @ 8:47 am
[quote comment="231355"][quote comment="231201"]
i wonder, if the petrol engine stays around for the next 30 years, will we be seeing 600cc engines kicking out 180bhp?!?!?![/quote]
Possible. I remember the Mercedes 300 Turbodiesel: 125hp out of 3000cc. At this time (20yrs ago) it was quite a lot.
Nowadays, a 2000cc Diesel (Audi/VW TDI) is 170hp…[/quote]
I thought F1 engines have been doing that to decades! 300HP /litre is a norm in F1. In the turbo days, the engines can easily be boosted to 1000Hp/litre… although that can be done for a short time only… hehe…
April 19, 2009 @ 10:15 am
James, you are right. sure there are plenty of those extreme engineering cases for very specific applications. but i was referring to practical road use for most mere mortals.
July 25, 2009 @ 7:58 pm
I have ordered one and i get it in 10 days!!
July 27, 2009 @ 1:07 am
Congrats.
I got my fr three days ago. Its wonderfull. A lot of power mounted to a perfect gearbox. I did 400km in two days.
Hope you get yours soon. Then lets meet for a race.
July 27, 2009 @ 5:17 pm
Hi ianleds. Enjoy your new car. It must be perfect.
I can’t wait for mine. I get it this week
July 29, 2009 @ 9:24 pm
A drunk @ssH*le hit my car and completely destroyed it. I had it parked outside my house.
Not even a week with my new car. This bstrd must die……