Proton Exora: Malaysia’s first MPV from RM69,998!

Proton Exora

After a long long wait, Malaysians finally have a decently sized MPV at a decent price to choose from. The new Proton Exora is here and two variants will be available at launch time – a 1.6 litre automatic high-line and a 1.6 litre automatic medium-line, priced at RM75,998.00 and RM69,998.00 respectively OTR with insurance. Head on after the jump for the full scoop on the Exora.

Proton Exora

Dimensions, Power, Weight – Technical Data

Firstly I think I have to address the actual dimensions of the car, because when you buy an MPV what you are looking for is essentially a big box to fit your family in. There has been some revision to the data that Proton provided us during the prototype test drive (particularly the weight, which is now heavier – 1422kg for M-Line and 1442kg for H-Line). Here are the final specs of the Exora in comparison to its competitors.

  Exora Livina 1.6 Avanza 1.5 Rondo Innova
Kerb Weight 1,422kg 1,245kg 1,120kg 1,563kg 1,575kg
Length 4,592mm 4,420mm 4,150mm 4,545mm 4,580mm
Width 1,809mm 1,690mm 1,630mm 1,800mm 1,770mm
Height 1,691mm 1,590mm 1,695mm 1,650mm 1,755mm
Wheelbase 2,730mm 2,600mm 2,655mm 2,700mm 2,750mm
Track (F) 1,542mm 1,470mm 1,415mm 1,573mm 1,510mm
Track (R) 1,530mm 1,475mm 1,425mm 1,569mm 1,510mm
Fuel Tank 55L 52L 45L 55L 55L
Power (hp) 125hp 104hp 108hp 142hp 134hp
Torque (Nm) 150Nm 150Nm 141Nm 189Nm 182Nm
kg/Nm 9.48 8.3 7.94 8.27 8.65

The power figures above are quoted in horsepower, which has been converted from most of the “PS” measurements that Japanese companies use. As you can see the weight is now heavier, which would throw off all our previous calculations on the Exora’s power to weight ratio.

The Exora’s 125 horsepower has to pull 1422kg of weight now which means 11.376kg per horsepower, which is actually one of the better performing numbers among its competitors unfortunately the amount of weight that each Newton Meter has to pull is one of the worst. It’s the amount of torque and the torque curve that matters when it comes to pulling a lot of weight.

Tech Specs
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Design

Proton Exora

Design is subjective but I personally feel the Proton Exora is quite pleasant to the eyes. I don’t quite like the chrome strip at the rear but it doesn’t hamper the vehicle’s functions as an MPV. The brake lights are LEDs but the signal lamps use conventional bulbs. The radio uses a bee-sting antenna mounted at the front.

The M-Line model lacks foglamps, the chrome on the rear strip and the pieces of trim on the front grille, and it also lacks the black-out stickers on the B-pillar and C-pillar. I feel the Exora looks better with the blackout pillars (though when I did my own little survey one colleague thought the opposite was better and another was neutral about it) but it should be easy for you to place your own stickers.

Both the M-Line and H-Line models use the same 15 inch wheels. These are wrapped with either Goodyear Assurance or Silverstone Kruizer tyres in 195/65R15 size, apparently they are the same for both M-Line or H-Line and which tyres you get depends on luck as different batches will be fitted with either one.

New Proton Exora Platform

Proton Exora
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The first sketch for the Exora has been in existence for a long time, even in the 90s. The styling was finally fixed sometime in August/September 2007. After that, it took another 18 months of development after the styling fix to reach mass production, which had been ready since March 2009. Production trial 1 had actually started end last year, while production trial 2 lasted the second half of February. Production started sometime mid-March until now.

The new Proton Exora sits on a platform that was developed by Proton engineers with the help of their engineering consultancy partner LG CNS. LG CNS also assisted Proton with the development of the Savvy platform, which was later revised to become the Saga platform.

It has a MacPherson strut layout at the front and a torsion beam at the rear, with the spare tyre stored underneath the vehicle body. It’s interesting to note that this chassis also has a multi-link variant ready. You know how the Wish had both a multi-link setup and a torsion beam version offered? Well, the Exora has the potential for that too. It will be easy to add a multi-link setup at the rear to make way for all-wheel drive in case it is needed in Eastern European countries or something.

Proton Exora

In terms of ability to fit a wide range of engines, the Proton Exora’s platform was designed to take anything from a 1.3 litre inline-4 to a 60 degree V6 in its engine bay. An engine as big as a 2.5 litre V6 would be no problem for the chassis to fit, but for now the only engine that’s going to be fitted to it in production is the 1.6 litre Campro CPS.

The Campro CPS engine produces 125 horsepower (127 PS) at 6,500rpm and 150Nm of torque at 4,500rpm. The gear ratios are the same as the Waja CPS but the final drive has been modified from 4.406 in the auto and 4.312 in the manual to 4.625 for both the auto and manual. In the auto model, the Exora cruises at 2,400rpm for 80km/h and 3,000rpm for 110km/h (approximation from looking at the meter panel). It has been rated to consume 9.2 litres per 100km on the combined cycle and 7.2 litres at 90km/h constant. The following are the Exora’s gear ratios:

  A/T M/T
1st 2.842 3.583
2nd 1.529 1.947
3rd 1.000 1.379
4th 0.712 1.03
5th   0.767
Reverse A/T 3.363
Final Drive 4.625 4.625

Because this is their first ever MPV and does not carry over any existing large vehicle platform, Proton has had the luck of being able to develop a monocoque MPV in this segment without having the restrictions of modifying an existing car to do it.

Proton Exora

Proton decided that the development process had to start from the inside out. This is why the MPV manages to be spacious without growing into a large sized behemoth. The seat, hip points, interior height and etc were all determined first, only then are the other parts of the chassis and body designed around it, including the exterior design of the car. The designers had to work within these restrictions and I must commend them on doing a great job in making the MPV look pleasant to the eyes.

Based on CAE data, the Proton Exora has a torsion rigidity of 16,683 Nm/degree based on lab tests, and a bending rigidity of 18,823 Nm/mm based on lab tests. Proton claims the Exora was designed to achieve a 4-star rating in Euro NCAP crash tests and it has passed an Euro NCAP equivalent test at a private testing facility in Spain. Actual Euro NCAP testing has not been done yet but as the test specs were the same the Exora should be able to gain a 4 star result in real Euro NCAP testing as well. But for now there is no official test yet so you won’t find the Exora on the Euro NCAP website.

For the first time in a Proton, the Proton Exora uses front impact sensors as part of the airbag activation system. Previously the airbags are only activated via data from an accelerometer. Here are two crash test videos for you to see.

And here are two charts with the international crash tests that the Exora complies with. P0 is an early prototype and P1 is a later prototype that is similar to the production version, so that is why you see some tests that the P0 does not pass but the P1 passes later.

Crash Table
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Crash Table
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Proton and LG engineers have added a few new features that while are common practice for car manufacturers these days, are new for Proton cars. First we’ll have a look at the Front End Module. It is essentially a single module for the front end of the car that is made of a combination of composite resin/high grade plastic and metal in certain areas to reinforce it. It serves as the front end structure as well as integrates the heat and fluid system mounts, bumper mounts and lighting system mounts.

The benefits for a front end module according to Proton are weight reduction (it weighs 5kg versus 6.5kg for a regular module), higher control of quality (single supplier), lower cost, ease of assembly (from 40 process down to 2 process), and provides a better finetuning ability for the crumple zone. It only uses 5 parts instead of 12 major parts of a conventional module.

Next is the hydroformed front subframe, which essentially carries the engine. Hydroforming is a process which shapes the front subframe using water pressure. Water pressure shapes tubes by expanding them from the inside in a closed forming die. It improves strength and rigidity, reduces weight (by 12% in this case), consolidates the stamping process, and most importantly involves much less welding points (eliminates weld flanges) for a stronger overall construction. Die costs are down 60%, product costs down 20% and weight down 30%.

Proton Exora Body Control Module

We’ve already covered the Body Control Module based on our findings during the prototype test drive a few weeks ago. The Body Control Module is actually supplied by Continental AG (Siemens VDO unit).
Here is a video I managed to record of Proton’s network training manager describing some of the safety and BCM features of the new Proton Exora.

  • A battery saver for room lamps, luggage and key ring illumination. These turn off after 30 seconds to ensure they do not make your battery flat if for some reason they are left in a situation where they are on all the time.
  • Follow-me-home headlamps stay on for a certain period of time to help light up your walkway when you park and want to enter your house.
  • The battery level for the remote key is indicated on the car’s instrument panel briefly when you turn the ignition on. The remote key has a range of 20 meters.
  • The remote control will not work if your front door is not closed. The vehicle will also remind you if you activate a remote command if the rear door is not closed.
  • There is a door open indicator on the instrument panel that indicates exactly which door, engine bay hood or rear hatch is not closed.
  • There is a door opening warning when you reach a speed of 7km/h if any doors are open.
  • Tap feature for the signal indicator stalk. This is similiar to alot of modern cars – you just have to tap the indicator stalk (not press fully) for the signal to flash 3 times to indicate a lane change and stop automatically, no need to press fully to turn on and reach for it again to deactivate it.
  • Dim-in and dim-out feature for the interior room lamps – Proton says this is better for the eyes at night and it also adds a certain touch of class. The interior room lamps turn off automatically after you lock the car, or they also stay on for 30 seconds and then fade out in 2.8 seconds. When you unlock the car, the room light fade-in in 3.4 seconds.
  • Front and rear wiper washer drip wiping – automatically wipe to remove excess water. What happens is when you operate the front washer, it will wipe 4 times and then pause for 5 seconds and then wipe one more time, to remove all the excess water effectively. This is because some of the washer liquid from the top of the windscreen will slowly drip down after the initial wiping, so the last wipe completely removes the washer water.
  • Programmable front wiper interval. This can be anything from 1 seconds to 25 seconds. The default is 4 seconds. This is how you program it – you put it into INT and then back to off. Then you wait for the duration you want and turn switch it to INT again. The time duration you waited will become the new interval, up to a max of 25 seconds.
  • The rear wiper turns on automatically when you engage reverse gear if your front wipers are on.
  • If in SLOW mode, the front wiper changes mode to INT mode when you bring the MPV to a complete stop, let’s say in a traffic jam in the rain.
  • The remote unlocks the drivers door only if pushed once – probably push twice to unlock all doors. Apparently you are able to configure this to unlock all doors at once by default.
  • There is an alarm activation history kept but I am not sure how to access it, perhaps only at the service center.
  • The doors will lock automatically once you reach a speed of 20km/h.
  • The doors will unlock automatically once you remove the key from the key barrel.
  • All doors unlock automatically upon a crash via a signal coming from the airbag control unit.
  • If you perform any sudden braking at speeds of at least 96km/h, the hazard lights will flash automatically.

M-Line and H-Line Differences

Proton Exora

The basic features of the car itself is the same between the M-Line and H-Line. They are the same even down to the safety features (dual airbags and ABS), alloy wheel design, brake types (front disc rear drum), seat configuration ability, electric wing mirrors, interior trim and even the tyres. Proton has only kept the creature comforts and minor styling differences for the H-Line.

The Proton Exora H-Line adds cruise control, the LCD screen with DVD player, leather seats, and slightly different trim on the outside – chrome for the grille and rear, as well as blacked out B and C pillars using some convincing black stickers. It’s good to know that the Bluetooth hands-free and audio streaming functionality of the 2-DIN head unit has been retained in the M-Line. If you notice, the leather seats in the H-Line version have a combination material – there is a suede-like material at the sides, which according to Proton was intentionally left there so that the leather would be allowed to expand and contract in a certain way under the hot Malaysian climate and thus reduce the chances of them cracking.

Proton Exora

There are still no ISOFIX points and there is only a lap belt for the middle seat in the second row instead of a full 3-point seatbelt. The seat and seatbelt anchorage points are said to be 30% better than regulation minimum requirements, and the steering wheel impact energy absorption is 35% better than regulation requirements.

Another feature of the H-Line is a touch screen portable GPS device which according to them uses an Atmel chipset. This is the same one as offered in the Persona SE. Locking speed was pretty fast. You can download new maps from the internet or at Proton Edar, and updates are free, but I didn’t manage to find out how many updates have there been so far and how frequent the updates are. I would have much preferred a Garmin-based solution.

The Exora’s Interior

Proton Exora

The interior quality was typically Proton. There were some uneven gaps between the plastic parts of the dash but hopefully these will be ironed out as the assembly plant gets better at assembling the new model, same goes for the parts suppliers. The gap between the headlining and the front windscreen was quite alarming though, and apparently this was because of the need to wire the DVD player.

The plastics are not soft touch but the designers have picked textures in order to avoid that bare cheap plastic look. The textures were picked based on observations that the designers made while visiting the past few international motorshows. A total of 3 different types of plastic texture are used throughout the car. The upper dash and lower sections (glove box and below) of the dash have a different texture (Organic pattern) than the middle dash are which uses a pattern Proton calls “Orga-Geo”.

Proton Exora

As previously mentioned the air conditioning was superb, thanks to the use of two blowers, one for the front and the other for the rear rows. There are air conditioning vents for all 3 rows, with the vents for the 2nd and 3rd row located above the windows. All three rows are comfortable, and a person of 182cm tall like me can fit into the third row nicely with my knee only barely touching the second row. Of course the second row has to be angled slightly more upright than usual for that to happen. Another point to consider is the third row is quite wide, two big sized guys can actually fit without their shoulders touching each other.

The second row and third row have backseat angle adjustment ability, so while you cannot slide them back and forth to vary space between the rows, if a compromise must be done it can be via the backrest angle. The second row will be able to sit more upright for the back row to have more legroom. The third row also varies in angle to create more luggage space in the rear. Speaking of luggage space, here is a video that Proton produced to train its salesmen on the luggage space of the Exora. Bear in mind what you see is with the third row angled rather straight, not the maximum lean angle.

Proton Exora – Luggage Space comparison with Avanza and Grand Livina

The H-Line models DVD player is a separate unit that is not integrated with the in-car entertainment system. It allows you to stream the audio from the DVD to the head unit installed up front via FM transmission, or the kids up back can actually plug in headphones to the DVD player via the two headphone jacks provided. If you want more I suppose you will have to buy headphone splitters.

A Short Drive Around Cyberjaya

Proton Exora

We had another short drive around Cyberjaya where the media drive was held and this time I noticed that the Exora was a little more bouncy that usual. I asked the engineers whether there were any differences between the prototype specifications and the production car that we drove and they said yes, it is possible that the suspension was softer due to a wider distance of manufacturing tolerance especially during initial production. Our car also only had 5 people in it, and there might also have been tyre pressure issues.

Still, the Exora remained a pleasant vehicle to drive. It was comfortable and the excellent air conditioning continued to perform its duties well. The minor road deformities that you can see around are handled well by the suspension, but as I mentioned earlier the suspension felt a little softer so there was a little extra bounce than normal after negotiating speed bumps.

Proton Exora

The Exora is a big comfortable box for its dimensions and would suit most of the requirements of the Malaysian MPV buyer. If you want to read more about how the Exora drives I suggest you check out my previous test drive story. We will try to get another Exora out ASAP for a proper real life test over a few days, perhaps some of you can join me on the ride?

Anyway here is a full high resolution gallery of the Exora, both inside and outside. Be back soon with even more on the Proton Exora, stay tuned! I am just really glad that finally Malaysians are able to buy a decently sized MPV for under RM70k, even if its just RM2 under RM70K!

Proton Exora 1.6L A/T M-Line Metallic – RM69,998.00
Proton Exora 1.6L A/T M-Line Solid – RM69,548.00
Proton Exora 1.6L A/T H-Line Metallic – RM75,998.00
Proton Exora 1.6L A/T H-Line Solid – RM75,548.00

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Paul Tan

After dabbling for years in the IT industry, Paul Tan initially began this site as a general blog covering various topics of personal interest. With an increasing number of readers paying rapt attention to the motoring stories, one thing led to another and the rest, as they say, is history.

 

Comments

  • Man, 1.4k hits in this site.
    This exora threat is so crazy…
    Lol.. im tired with the first thingy, first here first there very funny lor
    Im also cant enter this site b4, server prob hehe my pc have fever lah

    Congratulation to Proton, make sure no1 quality even with the cheapest price, hehe DSZ said Malaysian always want the cheapest and he also mention the famous p1 prob, power window plus we can c some vid ads lol really funny. PM also ketuk2 the Exora hahaha.
    Proton Exora : Anda pasti terpegun.

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  • kimi_ on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:35 am

    i wait for this since 10 pm ,nice…

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  • Nice!

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  • dA mACHISMO on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:37 am

    sweet!

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  • Kudos for proton. Their basic B-line will make other competitors headache with this pricing behavior.

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  • wow

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  • first!

    nice car

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  • Kudos. Make sure ya B-line below RM63k!

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  • wow good

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  • first i guess

    nice mpv overall

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  • joshua on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:38 am

    yeah first!

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  • 1ST..THINK..

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  • A.Monteiro on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:39 am

    First! wow! not bad for the design and the price.But the name…should have a better name instead of Exora.Thanks Paul for the great info!

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  • Nadzli on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:40 am

    Yeah aku pertama bagi komen, memang menawan Exora ni

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  • i'm first….

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  • tupak on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:40 am

    nice….

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  • weee!!!! launch ceremony a bit boring.. DSZ saved the day.

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  • Irda Idris on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:42 am

    Nice one Proton!! Keep up the good work!! We'll look about the comments after people had start riding this ride… Good luck and again good work!!

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  • tempe2010 on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:42 am

    1st….wow

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  • Hi!! just watch the launching and it was great!! Awsome! Congratz to P1, personally there are some differences between this final product with previous teaser/spyshot etc ~ maybe it just me. The front bumper, the propotion of the tyre and the swipe of black colour around the side windows from front to the back ( like wish ) ~~ wow.. speechless

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  • austin_cipan on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:43 am

    First……

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  • tupak on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:43 am

    nice….any body wanna buy my old mpv

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  • MrNeo on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:43 am

    Nice to see..nice to hold…

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  • m_9000 on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:44 am

    P1 exora finally unveiled.. bravo proton.!

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  • adrianclw on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:44 am

    Thumb Up to Proton!

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  • can this mpv will compete with perodua mpv? i dont think so.

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  • Fidtman on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:44 am

    Well done Proton!!! Its a start.Overall its a good ,competitive product.

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  • stevarac on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:45 am

    Congrate Proton , Well done !!!

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  • mitlanevo on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:45 am

    BRAVO BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!

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  • daniel on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:45 am

    …the headlights from new jazz…the grill from usdm accord……

    rear also from another MPV, but cant recall which model……

    overall ugly. bad performance.

    another model to potong malaysian citizens.

    hopefully they potong enough off the lower class citizens and stop asking for goverment protection, so that all of us can finally own nice cars that we deserve.

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  • Unbreakable on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:45 am

    Nice one from Proton..gonna sell like hot cakes!!

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  • econo no crisis on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:45 am

    Nice MPV! 1st to comment!

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  • akula on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:46 am

    Am I first…? Nice car!

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  • azhar on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:47 am

    first

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  • DavidT on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:48 am

    Nice MPV, beautifully design. Congratulation Proton.

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  • mockviper on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:48 am

    cant wait to test drive it.

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  • Not bad! Well done, Proton!

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  • bobdbilder on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:49 am

    That lady on Dato' Zainal's presentation was my college mate. Bangga giler wa…Hidup Engine!!!

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  • sifuan on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:49 am

    hoyeahoyeah..congratz proton..such a great success

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  • panda on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:49 am

    waa…dunno what to say..-.-"

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  • Marcus on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:50 am

    I am the first to comments. Really nice. Good work Proton

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  • aizad on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:51 am

    impressive :D pretty good features.proton is definitely improving.i'd get one

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  • aMoei on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:51 am

    1st!!!

    nice

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  • wizurai on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:52 am

    me 1st..hehehe…nice mpv

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  • madzly_musa (Member) on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:52 am

    1st comment.. amazing…

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  • hax!! on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:53 am

    lol i like the teh tarik hook pic hahaha

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  • Mohd Saiful Ameri on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:53 am

    BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO !!!! Proton Exora…. very 1st MPV of Malaysia

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  • tepets on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:54 am

    first…

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  • wow..

    thats alot of information there paul.

    I wonder when i'll read 'em all :)

    Great post.

    And the Exora 1st impression is very well pleasant.

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  • pak leh on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:55 am

    i m a first…………………………

    Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS for exora!

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  • farhitech on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:04 am

    CONGRATS to all protonian .

    Moga Exora akan melangkah jauh ke serata benua , membawa cita rakyat Malaysia .

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  • Toon899 on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:04 am

    Hahahahah…..

    Nice car. I will buy one !

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  • lambov12 on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:04 am

    well done proton !!

    thumbs up !!

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  • Littlefire on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:04 am

    Yup, everything seems perfect. But the achilles heel on this car is the 1.6L engine power/torque : weight ratio…

    Why Proton dont want to take the 2.0L V6 found in Perdana & Chansellor to put on it and make it H-line? Since the engine bay can support until 2.5L V6, should be no problem right?!? Pricing can be adjusted, if price around RM80k for a 2.0L V6 (with extra safety features like VSC or TRC), 1.6L from RM70-75k i think this marketing strategy can work!

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  • amazing!!!!

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  • zamra69 on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:05 am

    …nampak cantik dari hadapan tapi rekabentuk bahagian belakang agak kurang menarik..

    ruang dalam yang luas tetapi rekabentuknya dengan ketinggian 1691mm menyebabkan ia nampak kurang sporty tidak seperti Toyota Wish maupun Naza Citra yang mempunyai ketinggian yang lebih rendah..

    ..keseluruhannya OK..

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  • sifuan on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:05 am

    hoyeahoyeah..congratz protonians…cool MPV with no way of rebadgement of SETTE can beat em

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  • trisakti on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:13 am

    The price is quite reasonable.

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  • Prismo on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:13 am

    1st??

    my dream car has arrive… :)

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  • panzer on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:14 am

    nice…gud job proton..bravo

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  • LANNDESA on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:14 am

    Tahniah kepada PROTON….cuma bentuk depan agak agresif sikit…tapi lama – lama nampak okje. Anyway good job PROTON!

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  • tokan on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:15 am

    looks promising.will visit proton showroom soon

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  • atieus on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:16 am

    very nice design except for the tail…quite hideous~

    i watched the launching at danga bay..

    i am very proud of proton~!

    good job!

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  • interesting to see the possible variant to the basic platform. good effort from proton. at 69K it will kill avanza. P2 will have to come up with a compelling price for their upcoming mpv to compete

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  • Juggy on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:16 am

    First to comment… Cool report and hope there will be more photos of this MPV coming up soon…

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  • Toon899 on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:18 am

    Hahaahahah

    Nice car!

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  • may be this is my 3rd car after having 3rd child

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  • Ndmervin on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:21 am

    Kudos to Proton! You are taking us all to another level! Keep up the good work! :D

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  • 1stt!!..Nice…

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  • rizahan on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:23 am

    Finally launched, will go to the showroom to see it!!

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  • first! decent looking car

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  • michael on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:24 am

    look good but duno the quality

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  • stephen on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:26 am

    a bit disappointed for the enginne and dash board

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  • Aizan on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:26 am

    Nice car with nice price… wow!!!

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  • Hafiz on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:26 am

    best ever from proton……great!!!

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  • wah bangga seh malaysia mampu keluarkan kereta cam noh…

    as one of proton's car owners…what all can say is EXCELLENT!!!!!

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  • lambov12 (Member) on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:27 am

    good job Proton !!

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  • CE Fan on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:28 am

    is there any comparison with chery eastar….seems like ….a bit DNA from Eastar ……well…..you all decide la….

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  • Thomas on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:28 am

    Best cheap MPV ever! So convenient for big families who are moderately rich and poor. What a great MPV!

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  • Indigo on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:29 am

    What a weird kinda photo, Teh tarik? Still not fully developed locally, another Korean product.

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  • The Ahmad on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:29 am

    Bigger engine bay!? How about Perdana V6 engine or Campro CPS with turbo?

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  • teamsleepnine on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:35 am

    lol..there is way too many people think they are the first to comment.

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  • hopefully there would be a 1.8 soon, price a little on the high side..should be below 60k…

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  • MyBoy on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:36 am

    If previously you think 1380KG was heavy. Think again. Its now 1422KG for M-Line and 1442KG for H-Line. To put into perspective, Grand Livina 1.6 only 1245KG.

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  • kiddy on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:36 am

    not bad…but the grill same as persona..btw paul…new persona coming out ah?….means waja gonna phase out??

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  • awing on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:36 am

    the design so so oni la…

    look like the "body" too big and the "leg" tayar too small, tak padan.

    Euro style design "maybe the casis is from euro?"

    the spec is good but most pll 1st impression is "design".

    and the "design" is the key to attract pll to buy.

    seem like proton did't learn more from savvy and tiara.

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  • 20v_ke35 on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:36 am

    I see the next proton perdana…….

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  • frossonice on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:37 am

    What the heck with this "FIRST" thing? Are you guy so desperate to get attention?

    Nice MPV tho..

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  • ligat on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:38 am

    design is simple yet still stylish. The thing that amaze me most is the BCM features. nevertheless I think proton is doing the great job.

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  • dr34mkill3r on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:39 am

    semua nak jadi 1st haha!!

    well overall ok for this mpv..

    hope can sell outside from this region!! :)

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  • Peter on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:40 am

    I'm confused as to how you can all be "frist".

    Anyway, the car looks good. Hopefully they can keep the pricing low when they bring it to Thailand. Bye bye Avanza.

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  • first…. y all want be first..

    yes this my first comment in PT since i read this blog in 2005

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  • ~JviperS2~ on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:42 am

    Kudos to Proton for this Exora!

    It sounds like it's an excellent vehicle. Juz the torque of the engine is a disappoint (or maybe the gearbox's sluggish if it's the same unit in the Gen2 CPS)..

    Kinda regret in getting my Gen2 now~ :P

    Maybe an upgrade in the next 5 years for me? :D

    Will be checking it out tomoro @ COE since getting my car serviced there! ^^

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  • emenai on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:42 am

    bravo!! Proton. Baravo.. am I the first?

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  • cakesdotcent2udotcom on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:43 am

    take a look at the passeneger car on the platform sharing picture. Perdana replacement model?? coool

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  • samad on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:44 am

    wow..too worth spending time following for this exora article

    ..good job proton ..keep moving

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  • Calvin De La Rosa on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:46 am

    There always will be a -ve respond in ANYTHING Proton do these days… but all i can say is, for a car maker that established less than 30 years… Exora is an achievement that i'm proud off!

    Those whom complaining about (potential) lack of power from 1.6 Campro CPS… give Proton a chance. There will be an upgrade & update. That's make a sense in a business term.

    Those of you who kept on complaining, aware that Proton is business organization that provides more than 10,000 people jobs, right?

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  • hubcap on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:47 am

    all nice but underpowered and fuel guzzler!!! I see many proton staff commenting…job well done!

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  • seat-belt on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:47 am

    "rakyat malaysia inginkan kenderaan yg mmpunyai performance like european cars, styling like japanese cars, dan harga malaysia." -DSZ (during the launching presentation)

    i think this mpv has full fill the requirements.

    btw, i think the front grill has made proton founded their identity:]

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  • kalang on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:48 am

    nice MPV for family car, affortable, safety, more space, i wonder the FC ? can wait to test drive

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  • ligat on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:50 am

    correct me if I'm wrong….. the tag line should be "EXORA keriangan keluarga'..but since when it's change to 'EXORA you'll be amazed"???

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  • MyBoy on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:51 am

    If previously you think 1380KG was heavy (Exora rumored weight). Think again. Its now 1422KG for M-Line and 1442KG for H-Line. To put into perspective, Grand Livina 1.6 only 1245KG. Hell, even Grand Livina 1.8 is only 1280KG.

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  • ambipur on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:52 am

    nice detailed report. hopefully you can get a full euroNCAP report though. that would be a nice touch.

    cant wait to go and get a test drive

    is it just me or does the front pic kinda looks like the previous generation honda city

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  • esther on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:52 am

    Somehow this is clearly a winner. The rear actually looked sexy with the lines. Else it will look like Innova. Now I have difficulty to decide on my next car change… DSZ totally kicked off a good show, with his aspirations I hope fellow Malaysian will support our product. Like DSZ mentioned earlier on, "Malaysians generally like European engine, Japanese design with Malaysian price" I think it's more like China's price. No car manufacturer succeeded at their first try, so do justice for our new baby, yah!

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  • MisterBenjo on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:52 am

    Proton MD is great during presentation…World Class like Steve Jobs hehehhe

    So funny during the famous power windows problem video.

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  • BrakeFader on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:52 am

    So many first commenter losers for this posts. Get a life. I think this mpv is a great accomplishment and hopefully the production version meets expectations. With this price, the cherry mpv would have a harder time selling. Same goes to avanza as well.

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  • painsama on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:52 am

    Nice looking gear!

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  • mohdazizee on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:53 am

    stylish, i like.

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  • Pin Ball on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:53 am

    Being a 3 times Proton car owner….l can see it's the best car released from Proton. Btw I had just grab a Wish last november…..I will wait for the 2nd Exora production…hmm maybe with an improve 2.0 litre version will move 7 pax with ease. Salute to the Malaysian!

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  • wow.. the only thread with the most "i`m first" thing ~ this exora really give an impact :D

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  • Daniel on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:54 am

    Car is nice, but when u go 2 service center, Alamak!!! Poor response and service!!!!! Damn it…..

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  • CrazyDriver on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:56 am

    Campro is ultimate drinking machine! Furthermore,1.6L pulling 1,422kg body.

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  • hax!! on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:57 am

    [quote comment="230136"]correct me if I'm wrong….. the tag line should be "EXORA keriangan keluarga'..but since when it's change to 'EXORA you'll be amazed"???[/quote]

    yeah me too haha..

    what's up with that?

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  • arie othman on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:58 am

    Didn't like the rear lamp, ugly.( not my taste ) May be Exora 2 they can change the rear lamp. Overall it's ok. Good job Proton. Still waiting for a manual version.( for sure RM4000 less, should be RM 65000)

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  • for the first mpv.. that is great job.. syabas proton..

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  • Manual guy on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:59 am

    This is the best scoop, ever, Paul – right on the dot upon launch. But are you sure there's gonna be MT models? Both M- and H-lines only offer AT. Even Proton's online booking only offer 4 AT choices.

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  • MyBoy on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:59 am

    [quote comment="230141"]Proton MD is great during presentation…World Class like Steve Jobs hehehhe

    So funny during the famous power windows problem video.[/quote]

    Agree. He is A LOT better than Nazmi (current chairman) when he was the MD.

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  • hax!! on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:59 am

    [quote comment="230141"]Proton MD is great during presentation…World Class like Steve Jobs hehehhe

    So funny during the famous power windows problem video.[/quote]

    yeah he was great! I'm impressed

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  • awing on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:01 am

    I dun think exora will beat produo mpv[base on prvios produo mpv thread]..

    just like how savvy beat myvi..it fail..no matter how great their marketing have done. they seem like forgot the product talk for themself.

    and i think the satrio neo are the best product since the proton wira era..

    the rest are so so only.

    proton should look forward ahead from competitor and the next green car will be proton good move. but need to be price competitive la if wanna be success.

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  • loveyourdidi on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:01 am

    at least I can see 10-15 ppl claimed they're the first person to post a comment. immaturity to the max.

    neway, kudos to proton.

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  • VASEIST on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:01 am

    I LIKE THE HOOK FOR THE "TEH TARIK" MALAYSIA ADER KELASS MAN!! HEHEHEH

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  • good job proton.

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  • eezarm on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:05 am

    from the front look , its like a sporty car, a sedan…proton next car should come like this with a futuristic and appealing design like honda..

    anyway, this exora is surly good in many ways…hope proton will become a better car manufacturer and able to beat the others…hate to read ugly remarks and comments from Jeremy Clarkson and Top Gear website…

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  • Elvis on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:06 am

    Sure, a lot of complain about underpower. Better wait for Perodua MPV or engine upgrade to 1.8 first.

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  • masami ihara on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:06 am

    went to the showroom…i had to see the butt myself. i was initially put off by the rear design surfaced on the net but…actually in flesh it didnt look that bad. indeed this mpv is humongous it felt really big. the head clearance is impressive

    i have nothing but praise for this mpv but as someone rightly put, it Achilles heel is indeed the 1.6 engine and with official kerb weight of over1400 i'm skeptical of it pulling power i told the sa about my concern an rewarded with a test drive up bukit langat in 5 days time…

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  • loveyourdidi on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:08 am

    if u guys notice, the rear's wiper is not centered. kinda ugly in my point of view.

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  • umarss on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:08 am

    like the last picture..teh tarik tu penting woo..

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  • Great stuff there Paul..very comprehensive and informative review on Exora….Kudos

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  • Steve Nagalingam on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:10 am

    Yeah right… the only reason people buy this MPV is because the other brands are having their taxes cruelly high. I wonder if this were a fair market, I bet any Proton will bungkus. And Proton is talking about helping their own Malaysians…

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  • slimershine on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:11 am

    soo bigg.. yet so balance.. good2 proton.

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  • nice mpv!!!

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  • penG^uin on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:11 am

    Tahniah PROTON!! as malaysian we should be proud of it!!

    those yg keep complaining n condeming, sure u all not really truely malaysian…better all of u guys perform new team, n make ur own car, kasi tgk sket hasil nye mcm mane…

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  • budleee on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:11 am

    lol the demo on the luggage space is funny, it looks like the size of my naza ria space. with the seat upright of course..

    its the same size as annova, that is a big car..

    if people can drive a 1.3 avanza, 1.6 exora should be no prob

    heck even perodua mpv will be powered by a 1.5

    this is perfect for normal people and the general public, the rest can go suck an egg or get an alphard.

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  • whats the fuel consumption compared to its competitors?

    funny, so many ppl claimed to be 1st lolz

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  • whoa, pretty impresseddd!!

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  • Ali Kerabu on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:17 am

    [quote comment="230166"]Yeah right… the only reason people buy this MPV is because the other brands are having their taxes cruelly high. I wonder if this were a fair market, I bet any Proton will bungkus. And Proton is talking about helping their own Malaysians…[/quote]

    I agree with you Steve, if only Honda Stream had no tax that high…

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  • AndrE on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:17 am

    Look better than i think…

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  • Korang komen berebut cakap 1st tengok..aku lg le 1st tengok, kat supernau pukul 8pm dah di pamerkan untuk umum..

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  • Infinitt on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:18 am

    TAHNIAH PROTON. YOUR NEW BABY REALLY NICE. MALAYSIA FIRST MPV. VERY PROUD OF IT…..nice to see tun mahathir during launching.

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  • koozold on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:19 am

    the car alarm system so complicated…make me pening…need a long time to used to it…

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  • MyBoy on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:20 am

    [quote comment="230163"]if u guys notice, the rear's wiper is not centered. kinda ugly in my point of view.[/quote]

    Agree with you. Placing it like on the VW Golf is more like it.

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  • Darren on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:20 am

    i saw sat and oogled our new MPV, i am really glad that Proton finally

    done us proud. this is really a good product and i see than it has a certain presence.

    anyway really glad that malaysians will get a good bargain.

    now we set our sights on a 1.8 Mivec -Wajalution!

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  • Black Dog on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:21 am

    SECOND!

    Front headlamps looks like old Accord & front bumper looks so Civic. Copy here, copy there! Overall still alright BUT what about power?? Enuf??

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  • Maserati on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:22 am

    Hoohoo,if I thought the prototype was fugly,this is just horrendous.

    Goodluck to Proton in these trying times!

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  • MyBoy on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:22 am

    [quote comment="230170"]lol the demo on the luggage space is funny, it looks like the size of my naza ria space. with the seat upright of course..

    its the same size as annova, that is a big car..

    if people can drive a 1.3 avanza, 1.6 exora should be no prob

    heck even perodua mpv will be powered by a 1.5

    this is perfect for normal people and the general public, the rest can go suck an egg or get an alphard.[/quote]

    Have you compared the weight? :D

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  • Hafiz on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:26 am

    Good Job to you Proton Team!

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  • ntc2000 on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:26 am

    very nice ..thank

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  • wats wif all these 1st to comment ?

    very nice MPV , but dat packet of drink spoil the broucher…

    make it look so cheap

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  • ptolover on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:27 am

    like it……

    can wait 2 go 2 the showroom….

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  • ziewa on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:27 am

    guys… at the end of the show.. there's a black exora with bodykit.. anyone saw it?

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  • Faizal on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:28 am

    Congatulations Proton! Good effort!

    With nice exterior design, comfortable tailored interior, combined with BCM which provide solution on simple & small thing and also uncompromize safety even with low price.

    Worth to buy, value for money! Two thumbs up for this Malaysian MPV!

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  • whatever on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:29 am

    damn, the car is beautiful even tho it came out late hehehe, Great work Proton!

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  • good presentation…welcome EXORA……dont forget to booked

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  • maxtek on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:34 am

    WOW! Congratulations to Proton for their achievement!! Nice new features really worth it for RM70k..

    Did anyone notice the SECOND LAST PICTURE FROM BOTTOM? It showed a hook to hook bagged teh-tariks. THAT'S THE MALAYSIAN WAY!!! XD

    That's something us Malaysians can be proud of!!!

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  • Luqman Rohaizat on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:37 am

    Happy birthday, Exora! Best wishes for Proton.

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  • Black Dog on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:39 am

    This forum looks bombarded with proton marketing ppl???

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  • harun on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:40 am

    nice review!

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  • Now wait for P2 MPV….overall not bad, just the engine, 1.6 not enuf for 1400kg++ car lar… unless it has turbo/kompressor :P

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  • Pin Ball on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:45 am

    I love the cruise control knob……normally found in premium model only.

    The teh tarek hook makes it more Malaysian……..

    How about a double deck MPV on the next drawing board…..pls put in your comment.

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  • ah loong on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:46 am

    love the seats n steering wheel!

    haizzz, wish those seats can fit in my satria..

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  • khairi on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:47 am

    hope it will spawn to new breed taxi with better security to driver and comfort to passenger and more room to passenger luggage …

    cheers

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  • muryadi on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:49 am

    referring to Chips from motortrader, Proton spend RM450 million for R&D and No less than 32 vehicles were crashed, nine of them cost a million ringgit each while the other 23 cost between RM200,000 and RM500,000 each.

    So buyer cuma perlu bayar RM70 K utk EXora ni rasanya amat berbaloilah.

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  • must buy

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  • mytouch on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:50 am

    Nice car with superb design,bravo job from Proton & Sheikh Zainal team this time,congrats!!

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  • Abdul Haris b. Hawar on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:50 am

    Very good looking! anterior also exterior and i'am sure this will be a great model by proton! i hope proton will produce MPV with 1.8L or 2.0L next year. Syabas Proton. I proud to buy Malaysian product!

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  • Congratz to Proton.

    Either Exora is better or worse than other competitors it dont bother me so much bcoz i feel proud that malaysian can built their own MPV. It is not difficult like rocket science but still not a lot of hard work and know how.

    By the way, i hope Proton already counter measure their quality issues which i think more important than their wide space and powerful CPS.

    Anyway, congratz!

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  • msian on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:51 am

    good job proton…!

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  • Congratz to Proton.

    Either Exora is better or worse than other competitors it dont bother me so much bcoz i feel proud that malaysian can built their own MPV. It is not difficult like rocket science but still need a lot of hard work and know how.

    By the way, i hope Proton already counter measure their quality issues which i think more important than their wide space and powerful CPS.

    Can't wait to ride Exora.

    Anyway, congratz!

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  • say goodbye to grand livina, avanza.

    those two models will defintely be affected by this newcomer.

    really surprising, the price and stuff offered.

    but quality wise, lets see how it holds up.

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  • tokmoh on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:55 am

    [quote comment="230141"]Proton MD is great during presentation…World Class like Steve Jobs hehehhe

    So funny during the famous power windows problem video.[/quote]

    HAHAHA!! I noticed even Najib fell asleep during Datuk Nadzmi's speech lol!! But when it's DSZ's turn, I salute him man!! He knows his stuff well, he knows how to show appreciation for the people behind the making of Exora, he talks abt how there was once proton is associated more with p/w problem than anything else, excellent English spoken fast, clear n precise. He definitely knows how to make a grand apprearance. Absolutely brilliant. All hail DSZ!! All hail Proton!! All hail Exora!! :D :D :D

    I lol-ed when he talked abt Msians like to complaint etc, definitely sounds familiar in this blog, right, fellow TJCC-ers? :D Most importantly, he made a very big reference to Chips Yap n his 'teh tarik' hook, ahahaha!! At last, Proton have teh tarik/char kuey teow hook!! HOOORAYY!!!!!

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  • bmpower on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:56 am

    all p2 salesman die already..

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  • Tengokaje.. on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:56 am

    Alhamdulillah… finally the new baby born officially.

    Salam..

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  • ah loong on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:58 am

    can sumone please explain to me what is final drive ratio? i undrstand the other gear ratios, but not the final drive. thanx

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  • dellantre on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:09 am

    Dont compare with avanza.

    i'm totally hate it..

    avanza is nothing…

    bravo proton.

    I will booked it tomorrow.

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  • Tengokaje.. on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:12 am

    Yeah ziewa.. I also saw it at the end of the show. A black coloured Exora with bodykit and also may be 16" or 17" rims fitted. The rims lokks different from H line and M line.

    Salam..

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  • oh thank god. the knobs at the center console is placed for normal human usage!

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  • Keylee Daud on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:17 am

    errmmm 75k,wirh 1.6 campro cps,better smash for grandlivina or cherry 2.4 maybe citra rondo 1.8….but then congratulation malaysian people

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  • I agreed with him..

    Malaysian always asking for this only when come to cars..

    European tech, Japanese style, Cheaper price..

    hahahaha..

    The presentation by the CEO was great eventhough ada tersekat-sekat..

    weee….

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  • riseofthemachine on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:23 am

    great effort!

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  • gunther on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:26 am

    the third row seats are completely useless.

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  • hax!! on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:26 am

    [quote comment="230166"]Yeah right… the only reason people buy this MPV is because the other brands are having their taxes cruelly high. I wonder if this were a fair market, I bet any Proton will bungkus. And Proton is talking about helping their own Malaysians…[/quote]

    there's nothing we can do about the taxes..

    god damn u guys have thick skull

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  • triton guy on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:28 am

    This one doesn't impress me, seriously..just another crappy model from Protong deemed god send by gullible Malaysian public! Save all your ahhhs and oohhs to the day when IT really deliver on world class product.

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  • LAmborghini666 on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:31 am

    i've never seen anyhting as ugly as this. Please stop buying cars like this. its awful.

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  • Liang on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:49 am

    Dear Paul? i just come back from Proton showroom(around 12am) the Exora really built in good quality and can fit 7 adult easily.

    But i don't agree the title for this article Proton Exora: Malaysian's First MPV.

    Everyone know that the Malaysian's First MPV is Proton Juara, i think you need to study before you post the title.

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  • TShin on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:02 am

    gud luck proton

    thank you basher… the more you all bash the more improvement from proton.

    in this economy crisis, we hope proton can do well for local market and export market.

    we can rule the macro and micro economy. Pitty on Singapore now, their economy defisit to 9%. great depresion now. i hope Proton will more succeed as the our money will circulate among us. we shud reduce buying imported cars so that we will not suffer a great depresion like our neihbour do.

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  • anti proton on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:02 am

    close shop better !

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  • Paul Tan on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:09 am

    Liang: FYI the Juara is a Mitsubishi van.

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  • tishaban on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:12 am

    Is it coincidental that the popular new cars from Proton (maybe Pesona but definitely the new Saga and Exora) all were designed and released after Tengku Mahaleel's departure from the company? Was TM really that bad ie. not listening to buying public? It seems as if Proton today is listening to what their customers want, hence the decent cars that they make today.

    My wish for Proton

    – get rid of crony companies and improve QC

    – tie up with another automotive company and grow outside Malaysia

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  • legacy88 on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:13 am

    Ha ha ha nak tergelak baca komen I'm first, I'm second. Isk Ishk standard budak darjah 1 jer.

    Anystupidcommentbyfetusway, Congratulations to Proton! Nice presentations and good song choice too. Good looking MPV, but too bad it's quite heavy to match it's power.

    So, bagilah peluang kepada guinea-guinea pig menjadi bahan test dahulu kepada masalah-masalah yang bakal dihadapi sehinggalah ianya menjadi ok.

    Good luck.

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  • mockviper on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:29 am

    anyone snap any pics of Exora Prime? do share with us..

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  • Nice one proton… Looking forward to hear a more powerful engine for this car… I'm going to the nearest showroom to see the car tomorrow… Hopefully can test drive it..

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  • oldwira on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:32 am

    Very very nice design for MPV with that price. I think its very affordable. For those who want to wait for for P2 MPV, just forget it. The P2 MPV will be high in price (remember P2 Nautica 1.5L, its a failure) between rm80-95k with cramp space on the 3rd row and very small luggage area. This exora is very practical as a family mover. Good job proton. Go for more better products with Malaysian price. Your new tag proton, Proton… Good product at Malaysian price. LOL.

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  • msian on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:41 am

    [quote comment="230245"]Dear Paul? i just come back from Proton showroom(around 12am) the Exora really built in good quality and can fit 7 adult easily.

    But i don't agree the title for this article Proton Exora: Malaysian's First MPV.

    Everyone know that the Malaysian's First MPV is Proton Juara, i think you need to study before you post the title.[/quote]

    the juara was a commercial vehicle….much like the rusa(by p2)it's not classified as an mpv.

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  • msian on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:47 am

    [quote comment="230254"]Is it coincidental that the popular new cars from Proton (maybe Pesona but definitely the new Saga and Exora) all were designed and released after Tengku Mahaleel's departure from the company? Was TM really that bad ie. not listening to buying public? It seems as if Proton today is listening to what their customers want, hence the decent cars that they make today.

    My wish for Proton

    – get rid of crony companies and improve QC

    – tie up with another automotive company and grow outside Malaysia[/quote]hey'its unfair to come up with such a statement….mahaleel single handedly transformed proton form a 'tukang tukar badge' like p2 into a full fledge automaker..he made the right step by funding for RnD…the mpv project was started during his era…so did many other projects…such as the gen2…WAJA…even the persona prototype was out during TM's era…

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  • emphbone on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:54 am

    the shape is still not growing on me yet.. looks p2-ish..

    but then i'm very proud of it..

    the pic of that teh tarik really cracks me up at 3am in the morning .. yeah.

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  • gunther on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:57 am

    i'll have a rondo instead

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  • Just like DSZ and others has said……..rather than "cakap lebat", Better those who complained about underpower thingy to TEST DRIVE that mpv itself and compare it with its rival.

    Selain dari power to weight ratio

    Performance kete ni combination of all parts;

    Kalo kete tu power tp berat = Lembab

    Kalo kete tu x berapa kuat, tp tune kat gearing and weight rendah = optimized performance.

    But i do believe that this mpv is optimized to the best interest of the general public.

    just my few cents.

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  • mystvearn on Apr 16, 2009 at 11:13 am

    From themalaysianinsider:

    “Malaysians want European technology, Japanese design but Malaysian prices,” Syed Zainal quipped.

    This is really the malaysian mentallity! Thank you for noticing it. And good luck achieving all 3. This shows SZ knows what people want and not just go about building stuff people don't need.

    BTW, people still want a 2.0L engine in the exora!

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  • _xXx_ on Apr 16, 2009 at 11:39 am

    can the mpv moves (crawls) after fully loaded at final weight of 2 tons? I believe the engine is still running with timing belt

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  • If the test drive/FC is okay, then easier for Proton to move forward to ASEAN market first (Indonesia, Vietnam, the Philippines), then Taiwan, South Africa, Egypt or even India.

    But, again Proton inevitably need more potent engine to address certain markets. For such amenities throw in Exora, this mpv pretty good for a fleet operator.

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  • Exora come with ABS with EBD + Back up EBD (BEBD) ?? Brake – Front – Ventilated Disk / Rear – Drum??

    Paul Please advise.

    Thank you.

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  • Nutty on Apr 16, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    'Tuan, aku ada di sini!'…hahaha, so funny when the presenter mentioned it. But why the horn doesn't suit the car, I mean the sound. It's like a hunk with a boy voice. Maybe it's because of the noise pollution thingy, so proton makes the horn sounds softly?

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  • corolla_KE70 on Apr 16, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    congratulation proton!!!

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  • Telukd on Apr 16, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    Feel like crying…why? Got my 114K Honda Civic about a month ago…wish I can turn back time…and just get this H Line Proton MPV…much cheaper, look handsome and with "playground" for my kids…Congrat Proton…

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  • Mekar! on Apr 16, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Congrat. proton 4 the lunching this Lady Exora….. im proud 2 u proton,

    i think i knew why proton not lunch the manual 4 this exora hehe…..it all about marketing hehe !

    p/s: if u giv a chance to choose to buy this Lady Exora or upcoming produa MPV which 1 u choose…..with same price tag plus it manual hehe??????

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  • gunblade on Apr 16, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Long live Proton!!!

    Very nice MPV!!

    Malaysian MPV from Malaysian for Malaysian, EXORA!!

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  • good effort proton, keep it up!

    cheers!

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  • Just-once on Apr 16, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    Paul could you do me a favor? If you could put pictures that uneven gap between plastic parts. As I'm not in bolehland to see it myself. Thanks!

    Nice comprehensive reviews btw.

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  • mdnor on Apr 16, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    Very creative n innovative. Malaysian taste. Value for money. Malaysian MPV. I ve 3 cars but i ll consider to ve exora. I am confident this MPV sure can sell here and abroad. Congrat P1!

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  • misspurple82::. on Apr 16, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Excellent job by PROTON!!

    its fee great to see a Malaysian MPV.

    and very proud to say that my fiancee is one of the hardworking proton team memer…

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  • engineering school d on Apr 16, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    nothing to shout ,,,,! average and seems cincai in certain area..

    RM 70,000 is expensive , will trap the poor and low end middle class into trouble – in debt !!

    beware .. with trouble 1.6 waja engine

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  • aspire on Apr 16, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    mpv terbaik….harga terbaik..tahniah proton.

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  • BATAK on Apr 16, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    proton products always problem , better wait for imported model from produa….sure excellent like myvi

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  • BATAK on Apr 16, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    produa MPV based on toyota , sure quality one maaa like myvii

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  • rozel on Apr 16, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    dont complain bout taxes…

    itu cara kita nak jaga produk kita,

    itu cara kita nak jaga ekonomi kita utk jangka masa panjang,

    kalau semua org mampu beli honda, toyota n bla bla…ke mana circulation duit kita? jgn compare strategi malaysia dgn negara maju…

    See..tengah ekonomi gawat pun kita mampu launch malaysian's MPV,

    rakyat malaysia masih mampu beli keta…

    while rakyat negara maju tgh semput2 kena buang keje…

    I LOVE MALAYSIA..

    CONGRAT PROTON!

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  • azrai on Apr 16, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    So the hype and the waiting have ended. it's finally here. There's some interesting fact here i like to share with you especially what was mention during the launch.

    The Exora name:-

    1. The winner come with a tag line of 'keriangan Keluarga' so where is it? The tagline now is 'Anda pasti tergezut' (Terpegun actually.

    2. Those at TV1 pronounce it as Accsora instead of Exora (something sound like exhaust). Hmm… Wrong pronouncation or Bahasa Baku?

    The MD:-

    1. Wow, the presentation look like a launch for I-Pod. kudos to this. the way he present he really know what it is all about. this mean he follow through all the design to manufacturing process.

    2. For the first time the 'behind the curtain' people have their say. All the team members involved. this is good. We can also see Azlano.

    3. He has been in proton for 3 years, and it is translated into 3 new best selling model. Thank god his contract extended.

    4. The video from the launch suggest proton done an extensive research and market survey. this is good. Even the infamous power window failure in Proton's car synically put into their mind. good job.

    5. It's an international Product. Another good point.

    6. They come with the final product in 18 months. Wow. A lot of savings here just never jeopardise safety aspects.

    7. Proton slowly has the old face but with Toyota/Perodua heart in it. Why? Syed Zainal said they do extensive market survey and research. They come out with the right product for the right market.

    The price:-

    1. It's competitive. I hope it will long last. I wonder when will Toyota and Nissan cut their MPV's price soon.

    2. The competitive price also mean Waja will be defunct sooner than we think.

    Kudos to them. Just make sure not to be arrogant after this just like before. Just like what Najib said, failure is not an option for proton. Still, wait in coming 2 years these 1st batch will be recalled. :-) Even big companies do this.

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  • DAVID on Apr 16, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    in summary…it's a POOR MAN MPV

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  • Realeyes (Member) on Apr 16, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    [quote comment="230235"]I agreed with him..

    Malaysian always asking for this only when come to cars..

    European tech, Japanese style, Cheaper price..

    hahahaha..

    The presentation by the CEO was great eventhough ada tersekat-sekat..

    weee….[/quote]

    Yeah, this one got me laughing..Malaysian Price! Lol

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  • lembagatanah (Member) on Apr 16, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    [quote comment="230309"]Congrat. proton 4 the lunching this Lady Exora….. im proud 2 u proton,

    i think i knew why proton not lunch the manual 4 this exora hehe…..it all about marketing hehe !

    p/s: if u giv a chance to choose to buy this Lady Exora or upcoming produa MPV which 1 u choose…..with same price tag plus it manual hehe??????[/quote]

    still have to wait that P2 mpv, but from this first look at exora, can i expect better looking local-brand MPV? ;-)

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  • [quote comment="230261"][quote comment="230245"]Dear Paul? i just come back from Proton showroom(around 12am) the Exora really built in good quality and can fit 7 adult easily.

    But i don't agree the title for this article Proton Exora: Malaysian's First MPV.

    Everyone know that the Malaysian's First MPV is Proton Juara, i think you need to study before you post the title.[/quote]

    the juara was a commercial vehicle….much like the rusa(by p2)it's not classified as an mpv.[/quote]

    The Juara is a rebadge of the Mitsu Town Box. But Exora is design and Manufactured by Proton/ Malaysians. Proud to be Malaysian.

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  • sayedwagimansayedsup on Apr 16, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    Aduh, aduh , aduh BAGUS BANGAT PROTON kapan mau sampai keBogor Pak?

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  • halimsaleh on Apr 16, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    I would like to say …TAHNIAH ….

    Soon I'm looking for this MPV after I settle down my finance crisis :)

    Guys, don't wait ….let's go to PROTON showroom today …be a witness and start put your Downpayment ….

    Congratulation PROTON

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  • fizan on Apr 16, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    how about the fuel consumption? comment plz

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  • kadiology on Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    [quote comment="230166"]Yeah right… the only reason people buy this MPV is because the other brands are having their taxes cruelly high. I wonder if this were a fair market, I bet any Proton will bungkus. And Proton is talking about helping their own Malaysians…[/quote]

    steve, u really think if proton ceased to exist you will get a new honda stream at RM30k OTR in this country? wake up dude! they will tax u regardless there is proton or not!

    and i wonder why ppl complain its a 1.6? its 125hp, thats good enough for me. why go for 2.0 which suck up your petrol, pay more road tax and pay more for the car just for an increase of 10-20hp? malaysians want a practical car. if u want power, dont get an MPV. get ferrari instead.

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  • Meow Oren on Apr 16, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    big CONGRATULATION to DSZ and P1 team!!!!

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  • Thanks Paul for your brilliant info about Exora.

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  • rotan on Apr 16, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    anyone who own avanza 1.5…

    have anythiing to say??

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  • Littlefire on Apr 16, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    Do you know what is power/torque : weight ratio?

    Math calculation is always right, if it is underpower. The FC would not be great also.. Have u heard before that 1.6L Wira FC is better than 1.5L/1.3L wira? Coz it is also due to the power/torque : weight ratio… Proton MPV need at least a turbo 1.6L engine or a 2.0L to move it, from my personal view…

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  • Amri & Safinaz on Apr 16, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Well done proton,something to be proud as a Malaysian.Affordable and elegance,has it's own style and another challenge for other international models.

    Keep it up.Malaysia Boleh!!!!

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  • Riz Ainuddin on Apr 16, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    hahaha. the teh tarik ikat tepi hook is class. well done proton on the first mpv.

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  • Org N9 on Apr 16, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Nice MPV

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  • KenKen on Apr 16, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    V6 us nice but wouldn't be economical… (fuel wise) after petrol naik, car value will crash..

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  • wow… tapi macam mitsubishi grandis laa pulak..

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  • gooserider on Apr 16, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    aku tak akan tertipu dgn proton lagi…hahahah tarak kualiti

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  • freakaflirt on Apr 16, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    [quote comment="230061"]…the headlights from new jazz…the grill from usdm accord……

    rear also from another MPV, but cant recall which model……

    overall ugly. bad performance.

    another model to potong malaysian citizens.

    hopefully they potong enough off the lower class citizens and stop asking for goverment protection, so that all of us can finally own nice cars that we deserve.[/quote]

    This is the kind of people who only knows how to 'condem' people!

    If you are a Malaysian, then u should be ashamed of yourself!!

    If we don't support ourself, who do you think would??!

    'potong' 'potong' 'potong'

    'potong' your dick and feed it to the dog la like that!!! Even the dog wouldn't want it! Haha!!

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  • persona saya belum sampai dua tahun dah mula ada problem..so i hope exora tak macam tu..one more thing bila complaint, ayat power yang keluar "biasa le

    encik, proton"…anyway tahniah proton..

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  • kassorga on Apr 16, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    Lowering tax for foreign cars will help malaysians? Help what? Help YOU to buy cheap?

    We have been too self-centered for so long. Want to know what actually helping malaysians? buy own products helps local business creation helps local skill/tech development helps domestic job creation helps more money circulated domestically helps growth consumer industry helps …… and so forth. Lu pikir la sendiri.

    Do you think buying foreigns will have the full chain like above? Do you think money won't flow out of the country and enrich all those japanese, koreans, indons and mat sallehs if we buy kias, hondas, avanzas and the like?

    That's why foreign co are taxed heavily simply the protect the abundant derivative opportunities of the locals. Any wise leader will think of this.

    Get wise. Get real.

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  • wisedriver (Member) on Apr 16, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    i really like its meter display.

    Wow! there are many place to put your belonging…

    What i really like is this statement "Proton claims the Exora was designed to achieve a 4-star rating in Euro NCAP crash tests and it has passed an Euro NCAP equivalent test at a private testing facility in Spain. Actual Euro NCAP testing has not been done yet but as the test specs were the same the Exora should be able to gain a 4 star result in real Euro NCAP testing as well"

    I like a statement which is clear and honest.

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  • Dennis on Apr 16, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    With the torque of 150Nm, I do not think Exora has power to move 1,422kg body. Even I also feel that 1.6 Grand Livina is abit under power with 4 or 5 people in the car.

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  • Amiran on Apr 16, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Just good OOL design. Overall design wise, its 5 to 10 yrs old oready!!!

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  • torque (Member) on Apr 16, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    What da' heck with this FIRST thing?!! Bloody so yesterday…get a life and don't waste ppl's time scrolling reading that silly FIRST thing!!!! :-(

    Good job Proton! It may not be a great MPV but a very well decent effort by all of you. Love the teh tarik hook at the front, the vacuum socket at the rear, the top dvd player with usb connector, the GPS system, the TNG personal slot…oh ya, let's not forget…the importance of glove box ( :-) hehehe)! Still, agree with the rest that this Exora archilles heel is it's weight and the torque thats got a hard time doing it's job! Oh ya, the steering looks need to be improve…still thinks it's ugly but better than previous thou…since most of the time your hand are the one that's gonna stick to it the whole time. Yeah, I'm heading to Proton showroom this weekend….cheers everyone!

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  • Ah Soh on Apr 16, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Looks like Toyota Wish gaining some weight after a few years.

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  • jazzer on Apr 16, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    i,m the first….cool stuff and bravo for those 250 engineers…

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  • Comparing exora with others may not bring out the best in exora.ask najib to use it as his official car.why use others when proton can be the best.

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  • jackoz on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    This car is underpower. avanza 1.5 is better deal.

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  • azhar on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    why ooo why there's no manual??…better performance with manual…and the engine at least 1.8…1.6 cps wayyyyyy underpower

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  • Great job to Proton for continue evaluating… this elementary model price would help lots of Malaysian that can not afford multiple vehicles at home, an opportunity to have a proper size MPV.

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  • initial R on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    I like it. Paul, banding dengan gaya antara old Stream & Wish, mana yang lebih bagus. Ciri yang disediakan aku tengok lebih bagus sebab ianya lebih bercirikan malaysia. Betul gak cakap DSZ yang Malaysian nak yang macam Eropah, bentuk macam Jepun tapi nak harga murah (Malaysian). Teh Tarik/Char kuey teow Hook tu yang menarik. Sebab kengkadang tak tau nak gantung kat mana kalau beli bungkus kalau dah ramai dalam kereta. Kawan aku kat Singapore sanggup naik Danga Bay semata nak tekngok Exora. Dia kata dalam luas. Tempat duduk selesa dan betul posture. Paling dia bengang sebab ada teh tarik hook yang MPV lain tak ada (idaman dia). Dia bawak 6 orang lagi member nak try duduk kat dalam. Respond, senang nak masuk, selesa, luas kat tempat duduk belakang. Impress lagi ada aircond blower untuk setiap row belakang. Jalan jauh sampai perlis pun dia nak pakai Exora nie. Sayang dia kata, dia dah beli Freed, kalau tak nak gak sambar exora nie. Beli kat malaysia, pakai kat s'pore. Jimat, murah. Dia ada kata yang Exora ni ada sikit macam Stream 1.7 (old model) tapi lagi selesa. Overall OK, cuma rim tu bukan yang dia suka tapi masalah kecik je sbb banyak rim sport jual kat luar. boleh tukar. ;)

    Read more: "Proton Exora: Malaysia’s first MPV from RM69,998!" – http://paultan.org/archives/2009/04/15/proton-exo…

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  • Jordan on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    [quote comment="230249"]close shop better ![/quote]

    LOL… You are very funny…

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  • I bet you P2 MPV will be damn ugly and high FC like the Myvi 1.3A

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  • penang-wisher on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    totally inspired by toyota wish.. mostly the interior design. anyway good job proton.

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  • Very Nice Congrats Proton. For those who post -ve remark u guys only know who to complain what so great about foreign cars – i hav a Merc C200 & BMW E46 also got problem and quality issues. I bet you P2 MPV will be damn ugly and high FC like the Myvi 1.3A

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  • man man ooo on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    Nanti beli… convert engine to V8 beemer atau V10 ferrari. tak pun masuk enjin boxer subaru . convert to rear wheel drive. boleeey drift wa cakap lu… anyway… for an mpv… nak bawa orang. bukan nak gi racing…

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  • initial R on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    [quote comment="230428"]This car is underpower. avanza 1.5 is better deal.[/quote]

    Desprete Toyota salesman. Lot's of avanza booking cancel. Avanza, reduce the price & then the stupid toyota supporters will buy again. LOL. ;)

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  • lucifer on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    congrats proton…

    thanks for this beautiful lady exora..

    great mpv for malaysian

    not suitable for 'europe malaysian' or 'japan malaysian' as for them..proton never ever deliver good product.

    let us malaysian support malaysia product.

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  • akupunya on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    what can I say is this MPV is so simple in design but practical in usage.

    with the price level, proton provides exora with the best acessories and spesifications.

    mana boleh dapat kereta macam ini dengan harga yg sangat rendah.

    even, the toyota or honda yg harga mahal pun tk dapat offer accesories and spec macam exora.

    apa2 pun, berbaloi untuk dibeli.

    tapi, i tak mempunyai keinginan untuk membelinya kerana for me, exora tak mampu nak tanding estima or stream dari segi design. design depan tak ubah macam gen2, dan belakang agak kosong.

    bolehlah Proton…

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  • P1 & P2 BASHER on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    The Fuel Consumption isn't sound promising for us, 9.2 L per 100km is way too high!

    But since now the fuel is so inexpensive, then~~~

    WAIT, we need to save our mother earth resources before the fuel on the earth is being expense of by all of us.

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  • flyhigh on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    [quote comment="230061"]…the headlights from new jazz…the grill from usdm accord……

    rear also from another MPV, but cant recall which model……

    overall ugly. bad performance.

    another model to potong malaysian citizens.

    hopefully they potong enough off the lower class citizens and stop asking for goverment protection, so that all of us can finally own nice cars that we deserve.[/quote]

    U can go buy ur deserved car.. as long u can afford . . no need to bash anything . . . dont like it, than leave it.. that s ur money . . u decide it . .

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  • zainal on Apr 16, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    congrulation proton…

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  • tHe^CuLpRit on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    Horsepower is not really important in an MPV I reckon. What's more important is the torque. Some have argued that Proton needs to turbocharge the engine but this may not be the solution, as it increases fuel consumption.

    What they need to do is source a diesel engine asap , maybe from Renault. (say, the 1.9l used in the Scenic. It's got only 118bhp, but a massive 221lb of torque)

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  • kawekaze on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    Good luck PROTON.

    Kawe dah tengok kat showroom.

    Pado kawe its quick nice( because this is the Malaysia First MPV).

    Compare to others MPV..mantop..

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  • panglimakedah on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Nice job proton………

    Bintang baru dalam keluarga proton….

    Semoga terus bersinar……..

    Belajar dari suka duka kisah silam…proton kini mencipta sejarah baru….

    Semoga terus maju….

    Tahniah Proton

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  • zulomar on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    CONGRATS PROTON!!!!

    I'watched the launching on TV and also saw the M-Line black colour Exora live.

    IMHO Exora design, gadgets, accessories are good and value for money.

    As I already own a MPV, I didn't book. But I would if I haven't got one.

    The issue is maybe the 1.6 engine. But one should test drive 1st to confirm its capability (as an MPV & people/family mover).

    All the best and please take care on after sales service and built quality.

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  • waaa…..

    congratulation proton..

    smart gile….

    berbaloi dgn harga….

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  • jhuan on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Look like proton indeed put in lots of effort to come out with Exora. A lot of nice thingy and useful features, even got cruise control (in higher version though). Good job!!

    Nice photos…but took me several time to actually see all photos.. always database error.

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  • not_ah_beng on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    1st impression:

    1) Look not too bad. Although not a looker like Caldina or Stream, at least not the usual Proton-ugly like Juara, Arena, Savvy, Gen2 and all the other eyesore Proton inflict on us over the years. As in, you wouldn't felt embarrass driving this.

    2) Surely badly underpower for such a big car.

    3) Pricing is ok for market, but only because of Tax. Still, I don't feel many buyer in this environment (but same for all brands la, Jap or Conti).

    4) Seating position for 3rd row of seat look very uncomfortable from Paul's picture. Look at the man's legs.

    5) Perodua MPV should still thrash this Exora kau kau provided Perodua marketing and management give it right pricing, features and didn't made any big mistakes.

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  • Ali Salman, PhD (Gha on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    WOW. I have to get EXORA, insha Allah. It is marvelous. I cant wait to book for one.

    Proton has made Malaysians and Muslims proud.

    Keep up with the good work!!! More grease to your elbow!!!

    Ali Salman, PhD

    UKM

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  • Arise on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Congratulations to China factory for supplying the BCM to Proton ! Well done Proton !

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  • not_ah_beng on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    [quote comment="230413"]Lowering tax for foreign cars will help malaysians? Help what? Help YOU to buy cheap?

    We have been too self-centered for so long. Want to know what actually helping malaysians? buy own products helps local business creation helps local skill/tech development helps domestic job creation helps more money circulated domestically helps growth consumer industry helps …… and so forth. Lu pikir la sendiri.

    Do you think buying foreigns will have the full chain like above? Do you think money won't flow out of the country and enrich all those japanese, koreans, indons and mat sallehs if we buy kias, hondas, avanzas and the like?

    That's why foreign co are taxed heavily simply the protect the abundant derivative opportunities of the locals. Any wise leader will think of this.

    Get wise. Get real.[/quote]

    A foolish perspective only looking at it from a simplistic point of view.

    1st) This argument is only valid if Potong is similar or close to foreign makes in quality. Is it, even after 20 years? You know the answer.

    2nd) If not being similar in quality and still forcing Malaysian to purchase the car, you are putting Malaysian life at stake.

    3rd) The so-call tax we paid to G for buying Japanese car, where does it go? Inside their pocket? Considering: the road tax we paid is not cheap, and almost anywhere we drive on the road also need to paid toll?

    What a joke. Don't bring your UMNO values here, its not appreciate.

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  • nazrin on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    gud job proton!

    even in the 3rd row.., bole duduk selesa tuu..

    aksesori semua mantapp

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  • Tupak on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    [quote comment="230200"]This forum looks bombarded with proton marketing ppl???[/quote]

    ….and Toyota too…

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  • Ali Salman, PhD (Gha on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    [quote comment="230438"][quote comment="230249"]close shop better ![/quote]

    LOL… You are very funny…[/quote]

    are u a Malaysian and patriotic? why Malaysians now like to complain unnecessary? hmmm…

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  • Magma on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    How's Exora perform compare to Toyota Unser?

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  • paxter on Apr 16, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    Is that grey paint job the same as the persona SE grey? cause those look sexy :D also is the leather seats the same as the Persona SE? black with whitish stitching?

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  • Arise on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Congratulations to a China factory for supplying the BCM to Proton ! Congratulations Proton !

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  • watever u'll say…..me congrat proton coz its not easy to develop ur own car instead p2 juz replace the facelift hehe

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  • twitch on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    Proton Exora has kick Avanza, Grand Livina, even Naza Ria and Innova asss..and for Chery eastar? sorry bro u r not qualified in this league haha!!

    Good job there Proton…proud to own it next year…had to demolished 2nd hand 2003 Odyssey RA3 from my MPV wish list eventhough it price around RM80K something and had more power than Exora (and so i had to change my fast n furious driving style habit).If they upgrade the engine to 1.8 than i think all its rival can meniaga tempat lain lah ha?!!

    P/S : Dream of Stream

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  • Jared on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Nicely done Proton! looks like the engineers and designers are finally working as a team again to produce good cars. We've seen a good revamped Saga and now Exora. They paid attention to small intricate details such as having many compartments, bag holder, TouchNGo card compartment, etc., which is definitely a good thing. Since MPVs' are designed mainly as family cars and majority of the customers are mothers, these designs certainly appeal to them. Looks like they've done their homework.

    Had some initial reservations over their capabilities of producing a good MPV, but on first impression seems like they have done the job well. Way to go Proton!

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  • sansan on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    ask the malaysia goverment to use Exora as their official car… then malaysia car market will be better then bungkus….. hehe……

    my opinion: lower the tax lar. since it is malaysia buat.. what so high tax n price?

    if can be lower it then i can guarantee im fully support malaysia product…… NICE!!!!!!!

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  • people still talking on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    aiyoyoyo amma…

    we have high tax for the car because we got low taxes for everything else….

    if they lower the tax for the car, they will increase the taxes for something else..

    u never gonna get low taxes for everything u know..

    welcome to the real world (except brunei)

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  • syakir on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Looks like a job well done by Proton, though there are still rooms for improvement. Congratulation!

    However I would still go for a Rondo due to my belief that it is still better value for money…

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  • malaysian like to co on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    [quote comment="230487"][quote comment="230438"][quote comment="230249"]close shop better ![/quote]

    LOL… You are very funny…[/quote]

    are u a Malaysian and patriotic? why Malaysians now like to complain unnecessary? hmmm…[/quote]

    Malaysian u know… they have this mentality that every japan product is better than malaysian product.. n they like to complain about everything.. n they like sensation stories…

    how the hell u got ur phd with that english ?

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  • syidi on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Congratulation to all protonian. Nice job. Dream to have one……

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  • kassorga on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    [quote comment="230481"][quote comment="230413"]Lowering tax for foreign cars will help malaysians? Help what? Help YOU to buy cheap?

    We have been too self-centered for so long. Want to know what actually helping malaysians? buy own products helps local business creation helps local skill/tech development helps domestic job creation helps more money circulated domestically helps growth consumer industry helps …… and so forth. Lu pikir la sendiri.

    Do you think buying foreigns will have the full chain like above? Do you think money won't flow out of the country and enrich all those japanese, koreans, indons and mat sallehs if we buy kias, hondas, avanzas and the like?

    That's why foreign co are taxed heavily simply the protect the abundant derivative opportunities of the locals. Any wise leader will think of this.

    Get wise. Get real.[/quote]

    A foolish perspective only looking at it from a simplistic point of view.

    1st) This argument is only valid if Potong is similar or close to foreign makes in quality. Is it, even after 20 years? You know the answer.

    2nd) If not being similar in quality and still forcing Malaysian to purchase the car, you are putting Malaysian life at stake.

    3rd) The so-call tax we paid to G for buying Japanese car, where does it go? Inside their pocket? Considering: the road tax we paid is not cheap, and almost anywhere we drive on the road also need to paid toll?

    What a joke. Don't bring your UMNO values here, its not appreciate.[/quote]

    I don't remember mentioning any local brands here, neither proton nor perodua.

    You are the living example of self-centered being with short sighted lazy mind.

    You want all taxes you paid must be converted into benefits you yourself must have, and not others. All you want to believe that all money goes into the pocket of govt and never comes out. If money never comes out, our country dah lama bankrap. IMF would be already at our doorstep. Bro, you need to have at least a decent idea of how an insurance company works before you can take it at a greater height.

    btw, me never an UMNO member and never thought to be one. But your spell on the road tax, make me wonder whether your have succumbed to the UMNO values of bangsa subsidi.

    Get nice.

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  • mokkf82 on Apr 16, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Proton really did it right this time. Can't wait to go to the show room.

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  • kamisan on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    congrat to all malaysian!

    i ve been dreaming of "our" pride mpv since year 2000 and this is the moment we've been waiting for since.

    hope all the feature kickin' or par with others.

    quality is what we expect most…

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  • Ling Sung Ting on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    not a bad car…but still come to one question… do we really need PROTON??… if other cars are free from taxes… i don't mind 'it' to be there… but if imported cars are still expensives due to taxes…. sry la proton..u are too much protected… u will never be competitive enough…

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  • machaman on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    nice mpv……my choice to replace my old civic eg. saw it eye to eye..design is good interior and exterior. nice job proton. only not sure about on the road performance, in the showroom performance really ok.

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  • sagaKNIGHT (Member) on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    tahniah Proton

    & juga team work Exora

    atas usaha keras anda merealisasikan

    mpv pertama buatan malaysia!

    :)

    i will go to showroom today

    and look in front my eyes

    rather than give komen membabi buta

    without getting actual fact!

    pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton

    ada buat ke crash test ke tidak

    sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu

    tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata

    klu avanza,livina takdak pulak

    terhegeh2 nk tanya ada crash test ke tak

    hmmm~

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  • muryadi on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    [quote comment="230536"]not a bad car…but still come to one question… do we really need PROTON??… if other cars are free from taxes… i don't mind 'it' to be there… but if imported cars are still expensives due to taxes…. sry la proton..u are too much protected… u will never be competitive enough…[/quote]

    Oh grow up please. If we are willingly to pay 30% to 45% for our income-tax like other developed country than we can imagine to have less taxes for cars..

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  • Razali Pasir Puteh on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Menawan. Boleh bersaing dengan MPV lain. Patut dah lama keluar MPV

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  • proton hv no QC… wat the hell la this company,japanese car better..

    berat la weih this MPV,bole daki bukit ker.

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  • Arise on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Why is lap belt only installed for the middle passenger in the second roll seat ? Lab belt can cause serious abdomen injury. 460, you mentioned that there is 3 point safety belt for it earlier on. And, you mentioned that all the seat belts are pretensioner and load limiter equipped. Where ? Only the front seats are equipped with it.

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  • sansan on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    [quote comment="230512"]aiyoyoyo amma…

    we have high tax for the car because we got low taxes for everything else….

    if they lower the tax for the car, they will increase the taxes for something else..

    u never gonna get low taxes for everything u know..

    welcome to the real world (except brunei)[/quote]

    what taxes are gonna be LOW????????? lower the car tax even can help proton also!!!! dont worry about other foreign car to be lower. If not…… SURE kalah teruk…….

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  • terminatorkun on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Well done proton….nice car….this weekend will go to showroom

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  • edwindudley2003 on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    the rear wipers should have been integrated into the rear windscreen, ala wish.

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  • Monsieur on Apr 16, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    [quote comment="230245"]Dear Paul? i just come back from Proton showroom(around 12am) the Exora really built in good quality and can fit 7 adult easily.

    But i don't agree the title for this article Proton Exora: Malaysian's First MPV.

    Everyone know that the Malaysian's First MPV is Proton Juara, i think you need to study before you post the title.[/quote]

    Haiya….The tag Malaysian's First MPV meant it's design and own by Proton.Juara was just a rebadge!

    I think YOU need to study before you post.Don't easily point your fingers without knowledge bro…even monkeys can do that

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  • Proton? Of course will never again! Why? Lu fikirla sendiri.. Adiosss

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  • Good work PROTON.

    Eventhough I work with the 2nd national car maker,

    I feel proud myself seeing my fierce competitor are

    up and ready for the next challenges ahead.

    May this will lead to a healthy competition.

    Let us be the best automotive industry in the world.

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  • azman jb on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    tahniah kpd proton krn dpt mengeluarkan sebuah mpv yang begitu menawan dan cantik.diharap dpt menjaga kualiti supaya boleh bersaing dgn model lain. sya dh book hari nie rm1k. boleh dpt dlm bulan 8 atau 9 thn nie.

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  • osh_kosh on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    i thought the tag-line was "Keriangan Keluarga"? whatever… very nice mpv, interior was better than what i've expected.. now need for a TD :)

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  • How come so many jokers think they're first? Will we see an end to this childish nonsense?…

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  • Manklang on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Mantop..mantop..

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  • rizal on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Good Job Proton!

    Sekali lagi Proton mula melangkah ke arah pengeluar kenderaan yang berdaya saing. Tahniah kepada warga Proton. Walaupun pelbagai komen positif dan negatif yang diterima, namun, ambillah komen tersebut sebagai input dalam memajukan lagi industri automotif Malaysia. Kepada semua warga Malaysia, usahlah hanya panda memberikan komen, bagilah cadangan juga….dalam erti kata lain, komen yang membina.

    Semoga Proton terus mempertingkatkan kualiti produk-produknya di masa akan datang!

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  • khairul on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    congratulation…..

    NEVER TO LATE….

    saya akan beli sebab ada pengantung tehtarik…

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  • Daniel,

    You seem to have a major deep seated hatred towards proton. Whats with it man!

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  • protonmania on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    Tahniah keluarga terbaru proton. Aku dah guna dua jenis MPV buatan Korea dan Jepun. Lepas ni boleh beli Malaysian Made pula. Utk makluman semua, MPV luar negeri pun ada masalah juga. Tapi oleh kerana buatan luar negeri tiada pun org kita termasuk pak dan mak menteri heboh mcm dahulu tu.

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  • [quote comment="230166"]Yeah right… the only reason people buy this MPV is because the other brands are having their taxes cruelly high. I wonder if this were a fair market, I bet any Proton will bungkus. And Proton is talking about helping their own Malaysians…[/quote]

    Sad to read malaysians banging down their own brand.

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  • just back from coe. the car was really amazing. well, at least for a proton. DSZ was there. he explained to me abit about the front composite frame thing. i think i even got more excited meeting him and talked to him personally LOL!

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  • not_ah_beng on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    [quote comment="230525"]

    I don't remember mentioning any local brands here, neither proton nor perodua.

    You are the living example of self-centered being with short sighted lazy mind.

    You want all taxes you paid must be converted into benefits you yourself must have, and not others. All you want to believe that all money goes into the pocket of govt and never comes out. If money never comes out, our country dah lama bankrap. IMF would be already at our doorstep. Bro, you need to have at least a decent idea of how an insurance company works before you can take it at a greater height.

    btw, me never an UMNO member and never thought to be one. But your spell on the road tax, make me wonder whether your have succumbed to the UMNO values of bangsa subsidi.

    Get nice.[/quote]

    Err………….its actually benefits NO ONE else have. Except for benefits to a few cronies and some workers in Potong factories. Not to mention high tax helps to enrich even few more cronies with AP system.

    I think when you complain self-centered and lazy mind you actually talking about the supporter of our "national" car, who is actually the one self center and lazy.

    Self-center: Not willing for G to remove high taxes on imported car as this will impact their business.

    Lazy: Not willing to improve themself and their company so that even if G remove tax system, their company could still compete.

    So 26 million Malaysian need to be burden with keeping this few thousand people with jobs. Such a shame.

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  • [quote comment="230166"]Yeah right… the only reason people buy this MPV is because the other brands are having their taxes cruelly high. I wonder if this were a fair market, I bet any Proton will bungkus. And Proton is talking about helping their own Malaysians…[/quote]

    As a foreigner, I find it amazing to read malaysians bashing their own brand. Proton may not be prefect but it is your brand man!!

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  • semalam aku g tengok dkt show room..

    design ok utk first mpv..

    gear box auto masih pakai mitsubishi..

    pace luas & selesa..

    bravo to proton!!!

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  • just came back frm the showroom.

    Not yet available for test drive so it's difficult to judge the power of the car.

    I guess it will be abit underpowered.

    But still, i tried all 3 rows of seats, all very comfortable. I'm 1.78m tall.

    Interior very well designed, switches have abit of feel to them compared to persona.

    Sometimes, i read all the comments frm bashers, i feel really sad.

    Not all of us are well off to get whatever cars we want. If i can afford it, i will most prolly juz keep quiet instead of complaining about other cars.

    It's like complaining about other ppls wife not being beautiful or sexy enough. Hey, if we all have a choice, we all want supermodels as a wife and driving around in a ferrari. But how many of us have?

    Nobody is pointing a gun at our heads forcing us to take a bank loan to buy a proton. Hell some can't even get a loan approved for a proton!!

    Bottom line is this, everyone have their own budgets for tranport, some can afford foreign makes and some could not. There's no need to come in here and tell everone how lousy proton is just to make ppl who own a proton feel bad. I love my proton, but an honest opinion, i hate the service centre staffs!!

    I myself currently drive a persona, it's a good car. Not great in anyway but good. Upgraded frm my 8 year old iswara. hehehe

    Maybe one day i can afford other cars but hey, iswara -> persona already considered an upgrade rite? :-)

    Congrats to proton!!

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  • initial R on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    aih… Dah kuar pun nak gaduh pasal Tax plak. Oklah. Kalau tax dah turun, agak2 harga proton turun tak ?. Sure turun punya. Kereta import korang kena kira gak kos pengangkutan nak masuk sini. Duti export negara diaorang campur duti import malaysia campur kos angkut naik kapal tolak kos kurangkan kualiti sebanyak 20% ke 30%. Hah dapat harga pun. Korang ingat duit minyak kapal tu free ke. Duti export diaorang tak kena ke ?. Harga kat langkawi tu korang tak payah kira OK. kalau korang tau keadaan kereta kat langkawi tu mau korang tak nak beli punya. Korang kira sikit ok. Honda stream kuar. Saiz lebih kurang sama, aircond cuma ada kat 3rd seat aje. Harga waktu tu berapa ?. Harga Exora skarang dah campur tax gak tau. Kalau dikurangkan tax untuk semua kenderaan, still exora masih murah. Mungkin boleh dapat dlm RM60k untuk H-line. Sekarang fikir, beli barang sendiri dan buat ekonomi negara bergerak ke atau duit keluar dan kita tengok negara lain kaya. Thailand skarang bergolak. Industri kenderaan mereka juga teruk sebab rakyat kuar tunjuk perasaan tak nak keje. Sekurangnya Tax yang kerajaan dapat tu korang boleh pakai contoh jalan raya. Kembangkan ekonomi dengan rangsangan kewangan untuk peniaga, banyak lagi. Proton dah buat perubahan dibawah bimbingan DSZ. DSZ pun perihatin gak dgn masalah yang lepas2. Semalam dia pun dah janji untuk improve kualiti (virus power window ?). Proton masih muda, banyak kena belajar lagi. Tak macam GM yang dah berpuluh tahun pengalaman (otai tapi degil). Proton banyak lagi ruang untuk pergi jauh. Sekurangnya industri dari negara kita yang size tanah nak macam jepun tu boleh jadi salah satu pesaing industry kenderaan besar dunia. sapa tau. (Dah minyak nak abis, Kata diaorang lah).

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  • initial R on Apr 16, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    aih… Dah kuar pun nak gaduh pasal Tax plak. Oklah. Kalau tax dah turun, agak2 harga proton turun tak ?. Sure turun punya. Kereta import korang kena kira gak kos pengangkutan nak masuk sini. Duti export negara diaorang campur duti import malaysia campur kos angkut naik kapal tolak kos kurangkan kualiti sebanyak 20% ke 30%. Hah dapat harga pun. Korang ingat duit minyak kapal tu free ke. Duti export diaorang tak kena ke ?. Harga kat langkawi tu korang tak payah kira OK. kalau korang tau keadaan kereta kat langkawi tu mau korang tak nak beli punya. Korang kira sikit ok. Honda stream kuar. Saiz lebih kurang sama, aircond cuma ada kat 3rd seat aje. Harga waktu tu berapa ?. Harga Exora skarang dah campur tax gak tau. Kalau dikurangkan tax untuk semua kenderaan, still exora masih murah. Mungkin boleh dapat dlm RM60k untuk H-line. Sekarang fikir, beli barang sendiri dan buat ekonomi negara bergerak ke atau duit keluar dan kita tengok negara lain kaya. Thailand skarang bergolak. Industri kenderaan mereka juga teruk sebab rakyat kuar tunjuk perasaan tak nak keje. Sekurangnya Tax yang kerajaan dapat tu korang boleh pakai contoh jalan raya. Kembangkan ekonomi dengan rangsangan kewangan untuk peniaga, banyak lagi. Proton dah buat perubahan dibawah bimbingan DSZ. DSZ pun perihatin gak dgn masalah yang lepas2. Semalam dia pun dah janji untuk improve kualiti (virus power window ?). Proton masih muda, banyak kena belajar lagi. Tak macam GM yang dah berpuluh tahun pengalaman (otai tapi degil). Proton banyak lagi ruang untuk pergi jauh. Sekurangnya industri dari negara kita yang size tanah nak macam jepun tu boleh jadi salah satu pesaing industry kenderaan besar dunia. sapa tau. (Dah minyak nak abis, Kata diaorang lah). ;)

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  • 2nd row seats get too much space. shud give more space to 3rd row!

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  • P1 & P2 BASHER on Apr 16, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    [quote comment="230538"]tahniah Proton

    & juga team work Exora

    atas usaha keras anda merealisasikan

    mpv pertama buatan malaysia!

    :)

    i will go to showroom today

    and look in front my eyes

    rather than give komen membabi buta

    without getting actual fact!

    Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.

    Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m'jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~

    pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton

    ada buat ke crash test ke tidak

    sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu

    tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata

    klu avanza,livina takdak pulak

    terhegeh2 nk tanya ada crash test ke tak

    hmmm~[/quote]

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  • P1 & P2 BASHER on Apr 16, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    [quote comment="230538"]tahniah Proton

    & juga team work Exora

    atas usaha keras anda merealisasikan

    mpv pertama buatan malaysia!

    :)

    i will go to showroom today

    and look in front my eyes

    rather than give komen membabi buta

    without getting actual fact!

    klu avanza,livina takdak pulak

    terhegeh2 nk tanya ada crash test ke tak

    hmmm~[/quote]

    Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.

    Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m'jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~

    pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton

    ada buat ke crash test ke tidak

    sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu

    tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata

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  • farghmee on Apr 16, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    went just now to the proton showroom jln ampang.

    exterior looks ok.

    interior looks ok.

    it looks much way better in flesh rather than pics! ;)

    driving position, i like.

    simple dashboard, i can tolerate.

    overall finishing, ok. i can spot 3 different textures involved.

    proton should look into these not-so-ok pts.:

    1. interior. the panel in the dashbrd near the triangular window in front, that looks flimsy.

    2. interior. the spacing (gap) between the steering column & dashbrd can be seen when the steering is tilted to the lowest position.

    3. exterior. the gap at the plastic at the lower position of windshield can be noticed.

    when can i drive one? 8-)

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  • fastcx on Apr 16, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    [quote comment="230590"]Err………….its actually benefits NO ONE else have. Except for benefits to a few cronies and some workers in Potong factories. Not to mention high tax helps to enrich even few more cronies with AP system.

    I think when you complain self-centered and lazy mind you actually talking about the supporter of our "national" car, who is actually the one self center and lazy.

    Self-center: Not willing for G to remove high taxes on imported car as this will impact their business.

    Lazy: Not willing to improve themself and their company so that even if G remove tax system, their company could still compete.

    So 26 million Malaysian need to be burden with keeping this few thousand people with jobs. Such a shame.[/quote]

    dont cry like baby when gov apply high income tax n service tax + any item u wan2 buy gets VAT aka Value Added Tax once they abolish car tax

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  • fastcx on Apr 17, 2009 at 12:01 am

    [quote comment="230626"]Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.

    Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m'jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~

    pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton

    ada buat ke crash test ke tidak

    sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu

    tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata[/quote]

    looks like some1 never watch crash test video b4

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  • amirzaim on Apr 17, 2009 at 12:04 am

    Proton Boleh! Malaysia Boleh! Boleh bersaing dengan latest mpv spt. wish, innova, dan macam-macam lagilah. Lepas ni, giliran Perodua pulak nak buat MPVnya. Platfofm diambil direct dari model toyota. Pasti ada persaingan sengit yang akan berlaku.

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  • HAFEEZ on Apr 17, 2009 at 12:20 am

    Barang baik, harga cantik…. so apa ada hal… boleh beli le. Compare ngan keta import cam Innova, wish, stream tak adil le…. Harga anatara produk proton ngan jenama lain jauh sangat beza. Yang penting bagi MPV selesa dan luas, dan bukannya kelajuan. Ni MPV le bukan keta sedan… huhuhu

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  • j@sonLucifer on Apr 17, 2009 at 12:23 am

    surprisingly…the pick-up really good. got change to test drive it last night.

    with 5 person no problem at all for this MPV. it feel like drive a sedan car. good job proton. all the best

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  • initial R on Apr 17, 2009 at 12:40 am

    [quote comment="230633"][quote comment="230626"]Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.

    Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m'jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~

    pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton

    ada buat ke crash test ke tidak

    sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu

    tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata[/quote]

    looks like some1 never watch crash test video b4[/quote]

    hmmm…. biasa le. tu tak tengok youtube Topgear comment pasal waja. Aku rasa exora meet the standard bila antar ke NACP. sebab cabin tu tengok utuh je bila berlanggar. pastu test terbalik pun ok sebab body tak guling banyak pastu cabin pun ok. Ada ke crash test depan bumper tak rosak ?.

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  • Bodohland on Apr 17, 2009 at 12:46 am

    Another model going to sell at least 20 years to recoup its investment in platform given the high R & D cost. Good luck to those who book the car, your next generation likely to buy the same car with facelift down the road – same thing happen to the freaking milo tin on the wheel Saga/Iswara.

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  • Bodohland on Apr 17, 2009 at 12:51 am

    For future Exora variants, Proton better purchase 2.0L to 2.4L engine and plonk into engine bay, with weight of over 1.40 Tonne, it is definitely under power for 1.6L engine.

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  • Penyokong Proton on Apr 17, 2009 at 12:54 am

    Bloated car with a small heart! Price could be lower! What happened to NAP?

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  • Proton Lover on Apr 17, 2009 at 12:58 am

    Overweight car with a small engine! Another Proton rip off. Why can't they just give value for once & build up a loyal following! They're in this for the long run right? What have they to lose.

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  • Rulered on Apr 17, 2009 at 1:04 am

    On paper and pictures this car looks interesting. I think overall Proton did a good job and I have to congratulate you guys. Seems like recently Proton have been producing cars which are sensible (new gen Saga and Exora) for Malaysian. Don't worry about sceptics, even the largest car producer in the world get bashings now and then.

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  • zookri on Apr 17, 2009 at 1:21 am

    well done proton… proud of u… the only prob with proton cars nowdays… the weight!!.. too heavy for their engine.. dun worry with critics.. it will make u better.. TAHNIAH

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  • [quote comment="230630"]went just now to the proton showroom jln ampang.

    exterior looks ok.

    interior looks ok.

    it looks much way better in flesh rather than pics! ;)

    driving position, i like.

    simple dashboard, i can tolerate.

    overall finishing, ok. i can spot 3 different textures involved.

    proton should look into these not-so-ok pts.:

    1. interior. the panel in the dashbrd near the triangular window in front, that looks flimsy.

    2. interior. the spacing (gap) between the steering column & dashbrd can be seen when the steering is tilted to the lowest position.

    3. exterior. the gap at the plastic at the lower position of windshield can be noticed.

    when can i drive one? 8-)[/quote]

    Bro,

    How's the seat size ? How's the thigh support ?

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  • farghmee on Apr 17, 2009 at 1:26 am

    [quote comment="230626"]

    Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.

    Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m'jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~

    [/quote]

    yup betul, bukan official Euro NCAP crash test..

    tetapi…

    test ni ialah Euro NCAP Compliant.

    agak2 tau x maksud "compliant"?

    compliant maksudnye hampir sama, cuma xbuat kt Euro NCAP.

    drp pembacaan aku, test exora dijalankn di IDIADA Spain.

    google plz.

    kalu aku xsilap, Japan NCAP pn ada. IIHS America pn ada.

    Crash Test.

    dlm crash-test, mmg la akn ada besi kemek, tayar tercabut, cermin pecah etc.

    tp adakah besi kemik tu masuk dlm passanger cabin? xde kn?

    maknanye ok la tuh.

    time exora rolling tu ada nmpk A-pillar patah x? xde kn?

    maknanye ok la tuh.

    ada x dashboard exora terkeluar rapat ke dummy? xde kn?

    maknanye ok la tuh.

    fungsi crash test ialah untuk validation drp simulasi komputer.

    target crash test ialah utk mengkaji struktur chassis kereta supaya boleh direka agar ia dpt memberi keselamatan seoptimumnya kpd penumpang sekiranye berlaku kemalangan.

    hasilnye, kereta akn direka agar dpt menyerap momentum (energy sewaktu impact) (baca: kemek) pd tmpt yg kurang-kritikal. pd tmpt yg kritikal (passanger cabin) ia lebih teguh. sila tgk video dgn teliti ;)

    xpe, dlm belajar ada salah2 xpe.

    tp kalu xngaku salah, xdapek den nolongnye.

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  • man man ooo said,

    April 16, 2009 @ 10:29 am · Reply with quote

    Nanti beli… convert engine to V8 beemer atau V10 ferrari. tak pun masuk enjin boxer subaru . convert to rear wheel drive. boleeey drift wa cakap lu… anyway… for an mpv… nak bawa orang. bukan nak gi racing

    betul… betul… betul… betul… it is MPV. that why la kemalangan di malaysia ni in top rating… ingat nak laju je…

    anyway salute to Proton. trully malaysian.

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  • j@sonLucifer on Apr 17, 2009 at 1:29 am

    surprisingly…the pick-up really good. got change to test drive it last night. with 5 person no problem at all for this MPV. its a fast enuf car!! juz not enuf road to test the top speed. it feel like drive a sedan car. good job proton. all the best

    Read more: "Proton Exora: Malaysia’s first MPV from RM69,998!" – http://paultan.org/archives/2009/04/15/proton-exo…

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  • Rulered on Apr 17, 2009 at 1:38 am

    On paper and pictures this car looks interesting. I think overall Proton did a good job and I have to congratulate you guys. Seems like recently Proton have been producing cars which are sensible (new gen Saga and Exora) for Malaysian. Don't worry about sceptics, even the largest car producer in the world get bashings now and then. Surely pre test needs to be done before you send them for true assesment by NACP. Nak buat test tu semua bukan free, so kalau tak pre test dulu rugi la kalau fail. You can watch other videos on other cars with NACP rating of 4 to compare with the one you just watched in this article to satisfy your questions.

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  • [quote comment="230590"][quote comment="230525"]

    I don't remember mentioning any local brands here, neither proton nor perodua.

    You are the living example of self-centered being with short sighted lazy mind.

    You want all taxes you paid must be converted into benefits you yourself must have, and not others. All you want to believe that all money goes into the pocket of govt and never comes out. If money never comes out, our country dah lama bankrap. IMF would be already at our doorstep. Bro, you need to have at least a decent idea of how an insurance company works before you can take it at a greater height.

    btw, me never an UMNO member and never thought to be one. But your spell on the road tax, make me wonder whether your have succumbed to the UMNO values of bangsa subsidi.

    Get nice.[/quote]

    Err………….its actually benefits NO ONE else have. Except for benefits to a few cronies and some workers in Potong factories. Not to mention high tax helps to enrich even few more cronies with AP system.

    I think when you complain self-centered and lazy mind you actually talking about the supporter of our "national" car, who is actually the one self center and lazy.

    Self-center: Not willing for G to remove high taxes on imported car as this will impact their business.

    Lazy: Not willing to improve themself and their company so that even if G remove tax system, their company could still compete.

    So 26 million Malaysian need to be burden with keeping this few thousand people with jobs. Such a shame.[/quote]

    haiiya you… give time to Proton aaa…. not fair to compare Proton with T and H badge…. too young for proton…. not reach 30 years yet…. if you remove the taxes from imported car….. of course proton will lose…. give time to proton to revive their corporate image… is it fare to compare 2+ years company with the one who already reached 60 years in automobile sector… think again … i'm trully supporting u ..kassorga …. you are right…

    i own proton persona for a year …already … nothing malfunction in my car….

    owh …. bad perception among malaysian… too lazy to change your own mentality

    owh … proton got QC prob = damn hideous proton

    owh … T & H badge got prob = urm… it's ok… can be fixed….

    the launch ceremony already told about the infamous power window failure…. i think they already on the way … to improve their QC prob…..

    there is no automobile company who wanted to produce such a lousy car… and no quality….

    malaysian … we have to remember …. where we going to get our add financial resources if the country's oil resources ran out…. we cant just be the " negara pengguna " for the whole life… whereelse the country itself is getting nowhere…

    anyway … it is a milestone for proton … to improve themselves… syabas PROTON…. you make us proud to be Malaysian….

    those who want to buy kia, hyundai, t, h….. dont like proton …. dont give lousy comment…. if it is helpful…. you are greet to say…. if just want to give idiotic bashing comment… go to hell to you…..

    if u so good enough… change your nationality …. stay at japan or europe as long as you want…..

    malaysia doesnt need you….

    it's true ….. like DSZ said… malaysian want performance like europe car… design like japanese… and price like malaysia………..

    hurm…… do not know how to be grateful….

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  • Prem3377 on Apr 17, 2009 at 1:47 am

    Not Ah_beng [quote comment="230632"][quote comment="230590"]Err………….its actually benefits NO ONE else have. Except for benefits to a few cronies and some workers in Potong factories. Not to mention high tax helps to enrich even few more cronies with AP system.

    I think when you complain self-centered and lazy mind you actually talking about the supporter of our "national" car, who is actually the one self center and lazy.

    Self-center: Not willing for G to remove high taxes on imported car as this will impact their business.

    Lazy: Not willing to improve themself and their company so that even if G remove tax system, their company could still compete.

    So 26 million Malaysian need to be burden with keeping this few thousand people with jobs. Such a shame.[/quote]

    not Ah_beng have started again!!!

    ok just answer these questions and i guess end of the day you will know why protecting proton is better than lowering taxes(but is still dont agree with NAP)

    question one:

    who will benefit the MOST if the G lower car taxes??

    A.you,because you get to drive cheaper foreign cars

    B.Foreigners who build those cars and their own country businesses

    question two:

    what BENEFITS do you get supporting products from foreign country??

    A.Pride and joy of own foreign products

    B.help funding R&D in countries like japan,german and america with your hard earn cash and letting the suck all our talented engineers with better salary offer and help them accelerate their development process and push your home country backwards and remain as developing country and let all you hard earn cash enjoyed by some foreigners.

    why malaysian made products need G support and protection??

    A. so that some cronies can get rich and you get poorer neglecting the important R&D and developments.

    B. so that our hard earn cash remains in our country..your kids who want to be engineers,designers,and etc can have a place to work..our talented minds remain in our country to accelerate growth and we can become a developed country and sooner or later our home growth companies can bring back foreigners money into the country and help us earn a little bit more!!

    remember everyone…proton and rest of the national companies have not done anything wrong..they were planned to accelerate our country's growth and progress but people who are corrupted and selfish such as those cronies and certain leader who want to get rich fast who is the cause for these companies to be what they are now!!and pity thing is..those people who are stopping the progress of those companies are malaysian too…

    as long as corruption stays in our leaders blood,cronies and etc exist..we will have a very hard time to become a developed nation…

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  • malaysian like to co on Apr 17, 2009 at 2:03 am

    [quote comment="230551"][quote comment="230512"]aiyoyoyo amma…

    we have high tax for the car because we got low taxes for everything else….

    if they lower the tax for the car, they will increase the taxes for something else..

    u never gonna get low taxes for everything u know..

    welcome to the real world (except brunei)[/quote]

    what taxes are gonna be LOW????????? lower the car tax even can help proton also!!!! dont worry about other foreign car to be lower. If not…… SURE kalah teruk…….[/quote]

    oi stupid, our income taxes is very low..

    go google other country income tax, 20% – 30%

    god I hate this typical malaysian

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  • tokmoh on Apr 17, 2009 at 2:26 am

    [quote comment="230487"][quote comment="230438"][quote comment="230249"]close shop better ![/quote]

    LOL… You are very funny…[/quote]

    are u a Malaysian and patriotic? why Malaysians now like to complain unnecessary? hmmm…[/quote]

    Bcuz some ppl are just plain losers. They glorify the Japanese like they are nipponjin themselves, bt somehow I dun understand why do they refuse to migrate and apply for citizenship there.

    What's all this abt life at stake?! HAH?!?!?!!?! Buta sgt ke diorg ni sume, baru je baca Exora gi test, siap gmbr, siap video, tu tak ke bukti Exora ni ada standard keselamatan yg tinggi?!?!

    MyBoy,

    Somebody else had reminded me something u shud be told: instead of "cakap lebat", go test drive the Exora. JUST. BLOODY. GO. Until then, stop embarrassing our country. Foreigners with PhD are reading this blog.

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  • alfarabi on Apr 17, 2009 at 2:51 am

    good job proton! keep up the good work

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  • Mr.Hmang on Apr 17, 2009 at 2:55 am

    Bangga aku ngan proton yg dh produced 1st Good Ideal Impressive Malaysians MPV..harga pn mampu milik… prouds!!

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  • riddler on Apr 17, 2009 at 2:59 am

    [quote comment="230670"][quote comment="230626"]

    Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.

    Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m'jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~

    [/quote]

    yup betul, bukan official Euro NCAP crash test..

    tetapi…

    test ni ialah Euro NCAP Compliant.

    agak2 tau x maksud "compliant"?

    compliant maksudnye hampir sama, cuma xbuat kt Euro NCAP.

    drp pembacaan aku, test exora dijalankn di IDIADA Spain.

    google plz.

    kalu aku xsilap, Japan NCAP pn ada. IIHS America pn ada.

    Crash Test.

    dlm crash-test, mmg la akn ada besi kemek, tayar tercabut, cermin pecah etc.

    tp adakah besi kemik tu masuk dlm passanger cabin? xde kn?

    maknanye ok la tuh.

    time exora rolling tu ada nmpk A-pillar patah x? xde kn?

    maknanye ok la tuh.

    ada x dashboard exora terkeluar rapat ke dummy? xde kn?

    maknanye ok la tuh.

    fungsi crash test ialah untuk validation drp simulasi komputer.

    target crash test ialah utk mengkaji struktur chassis kereta supaya boleh direka agar ia dpt memberi keselamatan seoptimumnya kpd penumpang sekiranye berlaku kemalangan.

    hasilnye, kereta akn direka agar dpt menyerap momentum (energy sewaktu impact) (baca: kemek) pd tmpt yg kurang-kritikal. pd tmpt yg kritikal (passanger cabin) ia lebih teguh. sila tgk video dgn teliti ;)

    xpe, dlm belajar ada salah2 xpe.

    tp kalu xngaku salah, xdapek den nolongnye.[/quote]

    i agree with u man…..stupid P1 basher…

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  • [quote comment="230682"][quote comment="230551"][quote comment="230512"]aiyoyoyo amma…

    we have high tax for the car because we got low taxes for everything else….

    if they lower the tax for the car, they will increase the taxes for something else..

    u never gonna get low taxes for everything u know..

    welcome to the real world (except brunei)[/quote]

    what taxes are gonna be LOW????????? lower the car tax even can help proton also!!!! dont worry about other foreign car to be lower. If not…… SURE kalah teruk…….[/quote]

    oi stupid, our income taxes is very low..

    go google other country income tax, 20% – 30%

    god I hate this typical malaysian[/quote]

    haya don call people stupid la you!

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  • I just saw the car from the showroom near my house today and it's really not bad at all… The only thing i dislike about the car is the Uneven lines on the dash!!! It's kinda really obvious at the front passenger center side of the dash…. Proton should really improve that actually… Other than that it's ok… I like the door closing sound… It's sounds more "solid" compared to Persona and previous models…

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  • Malaysia Maju 2020 on Apr 17, 2009 at 3:14 am

    [quote comment="230061"]…the headlights from new jazz…the grill from usdm accord……

    rear also from another MPV, but cant recall which model……

    overall ugly. bad performance.

    another model to potong malaysian citizens.

    hopefully they potong enough off the lower class citizens and stop asking for goverment protection, so that all of us can finally own nice cars that we deserve.[/quote]

    Proton has done a good, if not superb job in designing the vehicle. It is very, very unfair to say that this is a second class vehicle for Malaysians. For the first time Malaysians can afford to own a locally designed and produced MPV that sits seven for the price of 70k. The vehicle looks stunning, with ample rooms for all its occupants. Maybe the mentality of "Proton ? Mana ada kualiti !" is embedded in the thoughts of many of us. Sure, the vehicle has got lots of rooms for improvements, but that does not mean the vehicle is second to those that are produced by other manufacturers. Maybe the engine is a tad underpowered to propel the vehicle, but I am sure that Proton engineers will rectify this problem soon, by fitting it with a bigger capacity engine maybe ?

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  • Fridz (Member) on Apr 17, 2009 at 3:16 am

    [quote comment="230670"][quote comment="230626"]

    Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.

    Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m'jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~

    [/quote]

    yup betul, bukan official Euro NCAP crash test..

    tetapi…

    test ni ialah Euro NCAP Compliant.

    agak2 tau x maksud "compliant"?

    compliant maksudnye hampir sama, cuma xbuat kt Euro NCAP.

    drp pembacaan aku, test exora dijalankn di IDIADA Spain.

    google plz.

    kalu aku xsilap, Japan NCAP pn ada. IIHS America pn ada.

    Crash Test.

    dlm crash-test, mmg la akn ada besi kemek, tayar tercabut, cermin pecah etc.

    tp adakah besi kemik tu masuk dlm passanger cabin? xde kn?

    maknanye ok la tuh.

    time exora rolling tu ada nmpk A-pillar patah x? xde kn?

    maknanye ok la tuh.

    ada x dashboard exora terkeluar rapat ke dummy? xde kn?

    maknanye ok la tuh.

    fungsi crash test ialah untuk validation drp simulasi komputer.

    target crash test ialah utk mengkaji struktur chassis kereta supaya boleh direka agar ia dpt memberi keselamatan seoptimumnya kpd penumpang sekiranye berlaku kemalangan.

    hasilnye, kereta akn direka agar dpt menyerap momentum (energy sewaktu impact) (baca: kemek) pd tmpt yg kurang-kritikal. pd tmpt yg kritikal (passanger cabin) ia lebih teguh. sila tgk video dgn teliti ;)

    xpe, dlm belajar ada salah2 xpe.

    tp kalu xngaku salah, xdapek den nolongnye.[/quote]

    Dahla tu…penat je ko taip panjang2..entah si P1 basher ni faham ke tidak..

    anyway,i didnt manage to visit proton showroom yet.lot of work at office..(maybe after this maghrib or isyak try to go to showroom).

    guys let us see exora tv commercial.(i patch for you this link)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32Z_q5poujs
    look properly at 0:45, and you will see cameraman's shadow fall on the mpv very obviously…looks funny meh..aiyo,producer..are you rushing to make this footage?

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  • Kevin on Apr 17, 2009 at 3:29 am

    I think Tax subject should be the compulsory subject in SPM. So everyone of us can understand about the personal tax, company tax, even the tax on goods imported. They G have high tax on imported car must have their reason. Should think the advantages not just on the disadvantages point of view.

    Back to topic. I really impressed the Proton's first car with BCM. I like the Exora's alarm system. Amazing. I like the guy says Hello, Tuan saya di sini…!!! haha..

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  • 7213209 (Member) on Apr 17, 2009 at 3:30 am

    aiseh, wanna complaint about tax then log on to our PM's blog lah.

    give ur views there.

    tell u, try live in japan, then u'll know almost every single thing u pay 5% tax (i really mean it – almost every single thing).

    anyway, good job proton.

    tak sabar nak balik malaysia to test drive.

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  • bobdbilder on Apr 17, 2009 at 3:34 am

    Don't call them stupid call them Bodoh. They must surely lead a gawdawful personal life. I mean think of it man. These are people who are so full of negative energy. We used to work where bosses always look at the bad things that we do and never appreciate the good things. Bad is bigger. But in the bigger scheme of things, they're just fluff that get's in the way of greatness.

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  • 7213209 (Member) on Apr 17, 2009 at 3:35 am

    [quote comment="230545"]proton hv no QC… wat the hell la this company,japanese car better..

    berat la weih this MPV,bole daki bukit ker.[/quote]

    don't talk without facts.

    try urself then share with us here!

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  • Malaysia Maju 2020 on Apr 17, 2009 at 3:35 am

    [quote comment="230415"]i really like its meter display.

    Wow! there are many place to put your belonging…

    What i really like is this statement "Proton claims the Exora was designed to achieve a 4-star rating in Euro NCAP crash tests and it has passed an Euro NCAP equivalent test at a private testing facility in Spain. Actual Euro NCAP testing has not been done yet but as the test specs were the same the Exora should be able to gain a 4 star result in real Euro NCAP testing as well"

    I like a statement which is clear and honest.[/quote]

    Who doesn't ?

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  • xsagax on Apr 17, 2009 at 3:38 am

    [quote comment="230175"][quote comment="230166"]Yeah right… the only reason people buy this MPV is because the other brands are having their taxes cruelly high. I wonder if this were a fair market, I bet any Proton will bungkus. And Proton is talking about helping their own Malaysians…[/quote]

    I agree with you Steve, if only Honda Stream had no tax that high…[/quote]

    its fair maa…they do not want our car enter their country but we let them in so tax high2 la ..they block our car we tax their car..fair la kan.. that way to protect car industry…

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  • xsagax on Apr 17, 2009 at 3:50 am

    [quote comment="230245"]Dear Paul? i just come back from Proton showroom(around 12am) the Exora really built in good quality and can fit 7 adult easily.

    But i don't agree the title for this article Proton Exora: Malaysian's First MPV.

    Everyone know that the Malaysian's First MPV is Proton Juara, i think you need to study before you post the title.[/quote]

    that a rebadge mini van from mitsu ma…check wikipedia

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  • LAmborghini666 on Apr 17, 2009 at 3:56 am

    this website is full of proton people posting comments on how "good" their car apparently is. if this awful car is good, then a toyota alphard has to be just sheer mpv pleasure.

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  • Syabas & setinggi-tinggi tahniah untuk Proton!

    Satu hadiah kepada rakyat Malaysia sebuah MPV yang amat hebat, mantap, berkuasa dan amat menarik potongan (rekabentuk) air tangan (hasil) sentuhan anak tempatan! Hidup Proton!

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  • alfarabi on Apr 17, 2009 at 3:59 am

    I heard from my friend who's working with the exora EURO NCAP testing in spain said that they did not really reach 4 star. some sort of like upper 3 close to 4 star. thats what i heard roughly from him lah. but i love the exora prestige design. looks gangster!

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  • CRUDE on Apr 17, 2009 at 4:20 am

    all the bashing has made proton to produce a good looking nice MPV…. nice advert..nice car..if only it has a slightly powerful engine =)

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  • xsagax on Apr 17, 2009 at 4:20 am

    [quote comment="230626"][quote comment="230538"]tahniah Proton

    & juga team work Exora

    atas usaha keras anda merealisasikan

    mpv pertama buatan malaysia!

    :)

    i will go to showroom today

    and look in front my eyes

    rather than give komen membabi buta

    without getting actual fact!

    klu avanza,livina takdak pulak

    terhegeh2 nk tanya ada crash test ke tak

    hmmm~[/quote]

    Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.

    Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m'jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~

    pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton

    ada buat ke crash test ke tidak

    sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu

    tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata[/quote]

    ni lagi sorg..pena blaja fizik tak..cube teke saper tercampak lebih jauh kete (A) yg remuk habis serap hentakan dgn kete(B) keras (saper plak yg serap hentakan) dgn syarat 2- 2 xpakai belt..jawapan……….

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  • riddler on Apr 17, 2009 at 4:29 am

    malaysian mentality…its doesnt matter how good the design is, if it is made in malaysia, nothing is good enough, if EXORA got 10 STAR euro NCAP also still not gud enough….Japanese product is always better than malaysia, come on man……mcm mana malaysia mau maju…kesiann……kesian malaysian, kesian malaysia…

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  • Belia Malaysia on Apr 17, 2009 at 4:49 am

    Aku sebenarnya x nk bnyk komen pasal proton, cuma 1st skali aku bangga proton ada inisiatif gk nk wat kete MPV… dah lama dh aku dok tunggu perubahan cm nie… tp ape yg bagus luar cantik, dalam cantik ngan DVD, GPS tp slack btl x de sun roof… Bkn slalu nk blh tgk kete Malaysia ade sun roof… kan kan kan… Tp aku mintak la pihak proton cuba plak wt r/d enjin tebo atau supercharge… Klau nk dilihatkn fuel consumption n power 2 weight ratio enjin tebo ngan supercharge lebih sesuai… x yah nk upgrade 1.6 pegi 2.0…. roadtax pun murah… Xkan proton sanggup labur duit ke UK untok upgrade enjin neo je( cari dalam youtube)… Nak diambil yang pro ngan con, proton telah banyak membantu negara… Ngan employment n providing private transportation tg berpatutan harga…. X kan 2 pn xleh bangga… Walaupin proton nampak cm dah nk terumbang-ambing tp ada gak kete baru, x da plak retrenchment, x de plak nk kna tutup kilang sana, kilang sini… Nie lah future automotive company kita… Bangga? Mustilah…. hang pikiaq la sendiri…. Assalamualaikum.

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  • malaysians.. bunch of complainers.. kamon!! support our national cars!! everything has to complain, puji tanak langusng, cannot progress la ini macam..

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  • xtremesportx on Apr 17, 2009 at 4:59 am

    RM70k for this crap!!?

    Dont be dumb people! this mpv shud be priced below 50k! We poor poor malaysian are forced to pay for the stupid tax which we dont deserve!

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  • Ueekkk on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:04 am

    cant they use other thing to hang beside the drawer ?? why must use a bungkus of "teh tarik" ????!!! make that car look freaking cheap ……..

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  • Thieban on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:07 am

    yeah its can give A to proton..finally proton mada it. but pls make sure no any comment frm customers, cuase overall look nice but we only know after we driving hope not any simple defect..keep it up prpton

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  • what2 in the butt on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:22 am

    [quote comment="230745"]cant they use other thing to hang beside the drawer ?? why must use a bungkus of "teh tarik" ????!!! make that car look freaking cheap ……..[/quote]

    wow.. u have take retardation to a new level

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  • proton costumer on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:28 am

    good job to Proton,have a step improvement…for the 1st MPV car.exora.but one thing regarding the safety …impact…35kmh.. ? not so compact car refer to the video test as above. anywhere it is the first MPV car and try to do the best one in future…

    thank you to proton Malaysia…Malaysia Boleh lah.!

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  • 7213209 (Member) on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:38 am

    [quote comment="230745"]cant they use other thing to hang beside the drawer ?? why must use a bungkus of "teh tarik" ????!!! make that car look freaking cheap ……..[/quote]

    aiyah..people driving merce / BM aslo can be found hanging at kedai mamak / bangsar / uptown.

    so what the heck? open mind la fren.

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  • j@sonLucifer on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:39 am

    surprisingly…the pick-up really good. got change to test drive it last night. with 5 person no problem at all for this MPV. its a fast enuf car!! juz not enuf road to test the top speed. it feel like drive a sedan car. good job proton. all the best

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  • yeah, agree. plastic part still not on par with toyota.

    during the crash, the hood should be designed to absorb the kinetic energy i.e. crush or folded to avoid the intrusion to the cabin. mau putus kepala ka?

    also agree with the underpower issue, but it should be decent enough to carry people.

    hope proton will come up with new fuel economy engine with higher torque for the exora with front&rear brake disc, esc and new transmission.

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  • ejang on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:44 am

    thanz to proton engineers…

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  • I can say Exora is quite a improvement…

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  • I think proton was working with LG on this, same like saga too…

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  • almostthere on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:59 am

    Biar laa derang…tak paham maksud crumple zones in the first place. Kalau paham theory pasal crumple zones takkan bebel pasal bab nih. Renault Modus yang dapat 5 stars pun remuk habis sampai A-Pillar. The point is to absorb energy. Nampak sangat ada orang tak pay attention iklan Toyota dulu pasal GOA. Kalo keras sangat energy transfer maksud cockpit, itu yang kita tak nak kalau major accident. Waja did poorly dalam NCAP pasal overall structure dia terlalu keras kalau frontal. The fact it's even pedestrian impact compliant is already very commendable tau tak?

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  • taiko on Apr 17, 2009 at 6:10 am

    1st of all i want congrat proton launch a new proton car. nice but i dont know how is a quality ? i lost confidence because use the proton car before, i hope this time really can fight with others car like toyota. Economic was going down is it a good time proton launch now? anyway i hope our country automobil industries business can develop and going up. proton exora make different with another proton car, start from beginning and hope proton can 'fight untill no blood' in car market..u can do it.

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  • klu x suke proton jgn bace laaa…

    komen2 lebey2 plak.

    nak sgt WISH AVANZA ALPHARD pape je bli laaa..

    sibuk2 je kat website nii…..

    g la bace website toyota ke honda ke hyundai ke kia ke

    x payah la bace al kisah proton MPV ni.. klu nak bash lebih2…

    sibuk jee…

    xde pun sape2 jemput bace…x malu btol..

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  • [quote comment="230725"]this website is full of proton people posting comments on how "good" their car apparently is. if this awful car is good, then a toyota alphard has to be just sheer mpv pleasure.[/quote]

    Toyota Alphard is a different class… I mean not by different in body type class but the other class… Like a Perodua and a mercedes… So no need to compare Exora and Alphard coz that's two different prices…

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  • for those who complain about proton entirely have to think carefully….i m a material engineer at proton sub company….this company is also producing or rather cut blank sheet for toyota and perodua….as ya ll complainerss didnt know, toyota is using a cheap, thin and noncoated metal for their inner and outer panel..their metal supplier is from local company…while proton is using a thick, expensive and some coated material and most of the supplier is from japan and korea….so if you want to complain or talk bad about proton please make sure you have a brain…..

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  • Mak Jen on Apr 17, 2009 at 6:33 am

    Aiyah.. 1.6 underpower maahh,,

    kenapa tak letak enjin lori 16 tayar terus.. ??

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  • anak malaysia on Apr 17, 2009 at 6:37 am

    walaupun aku tak pakai proton disebabkan crita2 lama tapi aku berbangga dengan proton perusahaan anak2 malaysia..syabas proton

    mungkin satu hari nanti aku akan menggunakan proton..

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  • corolla_KE70 on Apr 17, 2009 at 6:42 am

    [quote comment="230653"]Another model going to sell at least 20 years to recoup its investment in platform given the high R & D cost. Good luck to those who book the car, your next generation likely to buy the same car with facelift down the road – same thing happen to the freaking milo tin on the wheel Saga/Iswara.[/quote]

    your comments really suits you name…. just minus the word "land"

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  • aspire on Apr 17, 2009 at 6:54 am

    bravo proton……….nice mpv…….great job

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  • corolla_KE70 on Apr 17, 2009 at 7:04 am

    [quote comment="230744"]RM70k for this crap!!?

    Dont be dumb people! this mpv shud be priced below 50k! We poor poor malaysian are forced to pay for the stupid tax which we dont deserve![/quote]

    whats the problem with the tax that you are whining about?do you really think that if there is no Proton, car will be lot cheaper?the G's will create a lot of excuse to maintain the car price to the same level whether there are Proton or not…stop whining la kiddo………….

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  • washing machine on Apr 17, 2009 at 7:19 am

    i just visited the exora, looks not bad, but just my 2 cents that the front design looks like myvi, back view looks like innova :P Anyway, proton did a great job!

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  • beachboi83 on Apr 17, 2009 at 7:24 am

    [quote comment="230133"]"rakyat malaysia inginkan kenderaan yg mmpunyai performance like european cars, styling like japanese cars, dan harga malaysia." -DSZ (during the launching presentation)

    i think this mpv has full fill the requirements.

    btw, i think the front grill has made proton founded their identity:][/quote]

    the front grille is proton's identity? haha i don't know abt that

    anyway i think beneath the skin is either a mitsubishi or toyota frame etc

    there are only a few minor changes on the lights and interior

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  • Prismo on Apr 17, 2009 at 7:29 am

    [quote comment="230545"]japanese car better..

    berat la weih this MPV,bole daki bukit ker.[/quote]

    Hahaha.. u remind me what've my mom tell me a couple years ago.. she said, when Proton's introducing their 1st Saga in the 80's, the first perseption of most malaysians was, "ada kualiti mcm keta jepun ke? kuat ke enjin tu? boleh naik bukit ke?"

    I wonder, why this kind of mentality still exist in the 21st of century? Come on la bro, kalo x dpt naik bukit.. test mule Exora yg diaorg test hari-hari tu naik pokok ke?

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  • [quote comment="230245"]Dear Paul? i just come back from Proton showroom(around 12am) the Exora really built in good quality and can fit 7 adult easily.

    But i don't agree the title for this article Proton Exora: Malaysian's First MPV.

    Everyone know that the Malaysian's First MPV is Proton Juara, i think you need to study before you post the title.[/quote]

    Liang : U think Mr PT stupid ?? I think ur comment makes u a DUMBASS !

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  • Prismo on Apr 17, 2009 at 7:49 am

    [quote comment="230633"][quote comment="230626"]Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.

    Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m'jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~

    pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton

    ada buat ke crash test ke tidak

    sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu

    tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata[/quote]

    looks like some1 never watch crash test video b4[/quote]

    Just spare his/her comment bro… maybe he's dunno what the purpose of "crumple zone".. just ignore thoose bashers…

    pity him/her.. typical m'sian mentality.. :)

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  • knoxx on Apr 17, 2009 at 8:11 am

    [quote comment="230057"]can this mpv will compete with perodua mpv? i dont think so.[/quote]

    [quote comment="230744"]RM70k for this crap!!?

    Dont be dumb people! this mpv shud be priced below 50k! We poor poor malaysian are forced to pay for the stupid tax which we dont deserve![/quote]

    fu?k of your head la… harga mpv tu amat sesuai dengan kualiti.. ko nak camana lagi? ini bukan sebab org kita mampu beli atau tidak… tetapi orang mcm ko ni yang kedekut sgt ttp pandang buatan luar negara sahaja..

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  • suparman on Apr 17, 2009 at 8:13 am

    wahhh..so malaysian car..got hook to gantung teh tarik and so on….nice2…

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  • aliBaPa on Apr 17, 2009 at 8:23 am

    i'm first

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  • u know whats funny about malaysian mentality? i have one friend who argued that avanza is better coz it's "imported". yes, thats his argument. my jaw literally dropped.

    i don't even bother explaining anything to him after that. lol

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  • tusitala on Apr 17, 2009 at 8:48 am

    [quote comment="230595"]just came back frm the showroom.

    Not yet available for test drive so it's difficult to judge the power of the car.

    I guess it will be abit underpowered.

    But still, i tried all 3 rows of seats, all very comfortable. I'm 1.78m tall.

    Interior very well designed, switches have abit of feel to them compared to persona.

    Sometimes, i read all the comments frm bashers, i feel really sad.

    Not all of us are well off to get whatever cars we want. If i can afford it, i will most prolly juz keep quiet instead of complaining about other cars.

    It's like complaining about other ppls wife not being beautiful or sexy enough. Hey, if we all have a choice, we all want supermodels as a wife and driving around in a ferrari. But how many of us have?

    Nobody is pointing a gun at our heads forcing us to take a bank loan to buy a proton. Hell some can't even get a loan approved for a proton!!

    Bottom line is this, everyone have their own budgets for tranport, some can afford foreign makes and some could not. There's no need to come in here and tell everone how lousy proton is just to make ppl who own a proton feel bad. I love my proton, but an honest opinion, i hate the service centre staffs!!

    I myself currently drive a persona, it's a good car. Not great in anyway but good. Upgraded frm my 8 year old iswara. hehehe

    Maybe one day i can afford other cars but hey, iswara -> persona already considered an upgrade rite? :-)

    Congrats to proton!![/quote]

    Spot on, Hanz

    There's an old saying: You pays your money, you takes your choice

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  • Jgn nak jadi bodoh? on Apr 17, 2009 at 10:11 am

    [quote comment=”230993″]
    The Crash Test 1 is based on 35km/h at it’s speed already crash like this
    how about at a higher speed for 80km/h??? U always drive slow like 35km/h meh~
    For the crash test footage at a speed of 56km/h the moving tyre that moved backword to the cockpit already makes a threat to the driver and passenger.

    But still, I must mention for how safe a car it is, if u drive at high speed and bang, u’ll sure die. This is what I’m want to emphasize, haiyar~ u guys cannot even accept other people’s comment, somemore call ” stupid” la, apa lah, apalah. C’mon, u must accept and listen to others people comment, P1 will always be a KAMPUNG CHAMPION it’s because u these stupid loyalty supporters even P1 did something wrong and will still accept it,~~~WAIT did I say STUPID, sorry about that.
    BTW, the design of the headlamp isn’t that beautiful like DSZ said Japanese design, and the side mirror is just an expansion set from Saga BLM’s side mirror.

    PEACE~~~[/quote]
    Kalo ko langgar dinding keras yg tidak berganjak sedikit pun dlm kelajuan 35km/j(test crash), bagaimana rasa impak dia? siapa yg serap impak? itulah kegunaan “crumple zone”

    walaupun ko driving 80km/j tapi langgar benda yg sama berat yakni sebuah kereta.. ko rasa kereta yg ko langgar tu akan berganjak ataupun tidak berganjak dan kekal disitu mcm dinding crash test? mesti berganjak kan? dan impak kelajuan akan diserap oleh crumple zone kedua-dua kereta dan itu akan menjadikan impak hentakan terbahagi menjadi setengah.

    Langgar dinding yg tidak berganjak dan langgar benda yg boleh berganjak lain momentumnya bai…

    p/s: ko pernah tgk keta Ferrari Enzo putus dua dlm youtube tak? :)

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  • mspfaz on Apr 17, 2009 at 10:26 am

    I went to see the car today at the A&W Lake Garden, Seremban. The car look great especially the interior, looks spacious in comparison to Nissan Grand Livina… I like the seats, they are comfortable and looks nice. However, they still have gap issue… can be seen quite obviously for the engine cover/hood, almost 1 cm gap from the body. The QC Manager should have address the issue before allowing the product to come out of the factory. Other than that, it is an impressive product. Well done Proton.

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  • Salamander on Apr 17, 2009 at 11:35 am

    [quote comment="230803"][quote comment="230133"]"rakyat malaysia inginkan kenderaan yg mmpunyai performance like european cars, styling like japanese cars, dan harga malaysia." -DSZ (during the launching presentation)

    i think this mpv has full fill the requirements.

    btw, i think the front grill has made proton founded their identity:][/quote]

    the front grille is proton's identity? haha i don't know abt that

    anyway i think beneath the skin is either a mitsubishi or toyota frame etc

    there are only a few minor changes on the lights and interior[/quote]

    Can provide proof please? If not you will just look plain stupid.

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  • haih sigh on Apr 17, 2009 at 11:44 am

    lawa la tu..boleh lah tu..macam wish apa…

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  • haih sigh on Apr 17, 2009 at 11:54 am

    lagi satu…aku pekerja kelas bawahan…kewangan hanya cukup makan…tak arif pasai bab kereta ni..lepas baca komen pakar pakar sekalian…ada 2 soalan,

    1.. adakah sistem kenderaan kita terlalu membebankan rakyat pasal setiap kali ada proton ada pasal cukai sekaligus..

    2.. sekiranya betul betul parah sekali, bukankah kita patut boikotnya? kenapa ada yang terus jadi buta?

    i ni ilmu cetek jer..harap jgn marah dengan persoalan i..cuma saya dah jemu jadi miskin..miskin pasal sendiri takpe..ni pasal dirompak terang terang…

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  • really impressive proton

    now MPV like avanza , citra rondo , grand livina even innova are in trouble to sell .

    livina samller in size but high in price maaa.

    AVANZA gone case !!

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  • biasa saja.

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  • maajun beverejes on Apr 17, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    buy this car and get free teh tarik….

    nice…

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  • [quote comment="230113"]What a weird kinda photo, Teh tarik? Still not fully developed locally, another Korean product.[/quote]

    it's 100% made in malaysia for malaysian. no connection whatsoever with korea. it's the first p1 product with the 'made in malaysia' seal.

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  • rhn_BTHO on Apr 17, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Tahniah kpd Proton?

    Exora memang gempak.

    syukur pada Allah krn Malaysia telah berjaya mengeluarkan sebuah MPV yg grand 1st class punye..

    besaq pn besaq..

    lawa pn lawa..

    jom semua rakyat Malaysia g tgk kat showroom anda yg terdekat.

    sokonglh produk Malaysia.

    ;O )

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  • senapang patah on Apr 17, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    [quote comment="230918"]lagi satu…aku pekerja kelas bawahan…kewangan hanya cukup makan…tak arif pasai bab kereta ni..lepas baca komen pakar pakar sekalian…ada 2 soalan,

    1.. adakah sistem kenderaan kita terlalu membebankan rakyat pasal setiap kali ada proton ada pasal cukai sekaligus..

    2.. sekiranya betul betul parah sekali, bukankah kita patut boikotnya? kenapa ada yang terus jadi buta?

    i ni ilmu cetek jer..harap jgn marah dengan persoalan i..cuma saya dah jemu jadi miskin..miskin pasal sendiri takpe..ni pasal dirompak terang terang…[/quote]

    Tengok & dgr boleh la proton nih, nak beli tolong pikir 1000 kali. Dalam video semua cantik semua ok…realiti ? huh

    Lagi baik tunggu dan lihat, lihat pengalaman org yg beli exora…jgn dgr ckp salesman…hu hu hu

    Jgn dgr cakap perompak wang rakyat…huh

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  • cupin on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    this MPV cannot seat seven adults "comfortably" as claimed by proton.

    it is the same category as kia caren as far as seats are concerned. I seated at the back seat for 5 minutes and it was so uncomfortable and my waist and knees started to give way. Mind you i am just 5' 3'' and weigh 60 kg. It cannot even beat avanza for 7 seater. the rest is ok, just wait for a few months to see if there is any major problems.

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  • Tiadaid on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    [quote comment="230960"][quote comment="230918"]lagi satu…aku pekerja kelas bawahan…kewangan hanya cukup makan…tak arif pasai bab kereta ni..lepas baca komen pakar pakar sekalian…ada 2 soalan,

    1.. adakah sistem kenderaan kita terlalu membebankan rakyat pasal setiap kali ada proton ada pasal cukai sekaligus..

    2.. sekiranya betul betul parah sekali, bukankah kita patut boikotnya? kenapa ada yang terus jadi buta?

    i ni ilmu cetek jer..harap jgn marah dengan persoalan i..cuma saya dah jemu jadi miskin..miskin pasal sendiri takpe..ni pasal dirompak terang terang…[/quote]

    Tengok & dgr boleh la proton nih, nak beli tolong pikir 1000 kali. Dalam video semua cantik semua ok…realiti ? huh

    Lagi baik tunggu dan lihat, lihat pengalaman org yg beli exora…jgn dgr ckp salesman…hu hu hu

    Jgn dgr cakap perompak wang rakyat…huh[/quote]

    Sikap yg mcm ni la sebenarnya yg membuatkan Malaysia berada tahap sekarang. Macam mana nak maju. Aku rasa orang2 macam ni yg sebenarnya keje kat vendor2 Proton, tu yang Proton takleh nk kuarkan kete yang the best. Cubalah orang M'sia ni ubah sikap sket, think positive. Asyik pikir negative mana tak sume benda jadi negative?

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  • Heskey on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    First!

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  • tokmoh on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    [quote comment="230918"]lagi satu…aku pekerja kelas bawahan…kewangan hanya cukup makan…tak arif pasai bab kereta ni..lepas baca komen pakar pakar sekalian…ada 2 soalan,

    1.. adakah sistem kenderaan kita terlalu membebankan rakyat pasal setiap kali ada proton ada pasal cukai sekaligus..

    2.. sekiranya betul betul parah sekali, bukankah kita patut boikotnya? kenapa ada yang terus jadi buta?

    i ni ilmu cetek jer..harap jgn marah dengan persoalan i..cuma saya dah jemu jadi miskin..miskin pasal sendiri takpe..ni pasal dirompak terang terang…[/quote]

    haih sigh, saya mencadangkan agar anda melabur kepada pendidikan kewangan (financial education) anda. Encik boleh pergi ke kedai MPH dan mencari buku-buku yang mengajar anda tentang cara untuk buat duit secara halal dan sah. Antara yang saya suka ialah buku "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" (versi bahasa malaysia pun ada) oleh Robert Kiyosaki, tapi buku ini macam setakat permulaan, setakat hendak menerangkan konsep. Yang betul-betul punya boleh ajar tu banyak, tapi cuba cari buku-buku yang ditulis oleh Adam Khoo, jutawan termuda warga Singapura (dia menjadi jutawan masa dia 26). Tapi bagi saya, lebih baik memulakan dgn Rich Dad Poor Dad dulu untuk memahami asas-asas tentang duit.

    Untuk menjawab soalan anda,

    1. Tidak semestinya. Bersyukurlah sekurang-kurangnya kita ada syarikat kereta sendiri. Beli kereta di Singapura lebih mahal, tapi mereka tak ada kereta nasional sendiri. Ada banyak hujah yang membangkang argumen ini, cukuplah saya katakan yang orang ni tak berani "practice what they preach". Kalau Singapura ni memang senang nak beli kereta, kenapa mereka tak cuba pergi ke sana, kerja di sana dan beli kereta di sana?

    Apa yang saya cuba katakan ialah masalahnya tidak terletak di luaran. Masalahnya di dalaman kita. Orang boleh cerita sampai berbuih mulut tentang cukai, kerajaan, dan segala-galanya, tapi mengapa sesetengah orang masih boleh berjaya di dalam situasi sebegini? Mengapa pula Amerika, kuasa ekonomi terkuat dunia boleh menghadapi krisis kewangan yang telah menyebabkan ramai rakyat mereka kehilangan rumah dan terpaksa merempat di tepi jalan? Itu kerana orang yang sukses berfikir secara lain. Kita harus belajar dari mereka, dan bersyukurlah orang macam Robert Kiyosaki dan Adam Khoo sanggup kongsikan rahsia kejayaan mereka kepada semua orang untuk dibaca. Harap-harap anda berfikiran terbuka untuk mengubah hidup anda.

    2. Soichiro Honda, orang yang memulakan syarikat Honda pernah berkata "sukses itu adalah 99 peratus kegagalan". Hari ini kita melihat Honda sangat berjaya, tapi bayangkanlah: kalau kejayaan mereka sekarang ini hanya 1 peratus, bagaimana pula kegagalan mereka? Kite hanya tutup sebelah mata bila sampai ke isu ini pula.

    Maksudnya Honda telah gagal jauh lagi banyak daripada apa yang Proton sedang hadapi. Tapi yang pentingnya, Proton harus tahan menghadapi cabaran semua ini. Proton harus terus maju ke hadapan, tetapi mereka memerlukan sokongan kami terutamanya!!

    Macam bayi yang sedang belajar hendak berjalan, kita maki bayi tu bodoh ke atau kita beri sokongan agar bayi itu berdiri semula dan mencuba lagi? Orang Jepun memilih untuk menyorak memberi dorongan, orang kite pula…… sebab itu lah orang Jepun lagi maju dari kite. Kemajuan sesebuah negara itu terletak di mentaliti orangnya.

    Kita harus berubah, siapa yang tidak pernah buat kesilapan? Percayalah di dalam kemampuan Proton yang percaya dalam kemampuan kita. Pengurus direktornya (err… is Managing Director translate to this? why sound so wrong one hehehe) Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin telah bekerja kuat sejak dia mengambil jawatan itu 4 tahun lalu untuk meningkatkan qualiti Proton, dan hasilnya jelas ternampak di dalam model-model baru macam Persona dan Saga baru, yang mana semakin susah untuk mendengar cerita daripada pemilik mereka merungut tentang qualiti kenderaan mereka.

    Ayuh kita merealisasikan slogan Malaysia Boleh dengan sebenar-benarnya. Proton boleh!! Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin boleh!! Exora boleh!!

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  • farghmee on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    [quote comment="230667"]

    Bro,

    How's the seat size ? How's the thigh support ?[/quote]

    Front seat, adult ok.

    Middle row seat, adult ok.

    Back seat, adult ok, but the leg will be positioned higher than those of front&middle row seat.

    by thigh support, do u mean whether the thigh of the 3rd row will be placed like 1st & 2nd row?

    if yes, then i would say the support is minimal for adult. however the seat size is ok for adult. just the height of the seat from the chassis is different

    from 1st & 2nd row.

    [quote comment="230711"]

    Dahla tu…penat je ko taip panjang2..entah si P1 basher ni faham ke tidak..

    [/quote]

    penat mmg penat Bro. tp aku harap lps baca komen aku tu yg panjang cm esei upsr darjah 6 tu, dia boleh faham. nextime kalu org tanya dia psl crash test, tin milo steel, heavy door atau active safety dia boleh jawab.

    aku dulu pn xske gak ngn proton. wira bapak aku power window pn dh ada 4kali rosak, meter distance putus etc. time tu mak aku nk beli gen2, mmg aku xsetuju gila2 la.

    tp…

    lps mak aku beli gen2, aku la yg pakai kete tu mcm aku punya.

    interior design cantik,

    exterior ada shape &

    yg plg aku ske handling dia!

    aku ni dh smpi stage malas dh nk "fire" atau "laser" org.

    senang je: "U dh try ka? kalu blum try, g try la. jgn tabur fitnah bai"

    hehehe~

    [quote comment="230918"]

    1.. adakah sistem kenderaan kita terlalu membebankan rakyat pasal setiap kali ada proton ada pasal cukai sekaligus..

    2.. sekiranya betul betul parah sekali, bukankah kita patut boikotnya? kenapa ada yang terus jadi buta?

    i ni ilmu cetek jer..harap jgn marah dengan persoalan i..cuma saya dah jemu jadi miskin..miskin pasal sendiri takpe..ni pasal dirompak terang terang…[/quote]

    aku pn xarif sgt psl economy or legislation. so aku xkn bincang sgt bende2 gini dlm web psl kete. kn cm "lari drp topik"?

    1. dlm dunia ada up&down, good&bad, hi-tax&low-tax.

    cuba kita pk.

    gomen dpt $ drp tax.

    kalu proton xde, agak2 kete import tax ble kurang?

    mesti xkn kurangnye. gile ape gomen nk kurangkn punca $ diorg.

    silap2 haribulan lg tinggi tax dia sbb nk compensate/cover hasil tax yg dulu diorg dpt drp proton.

    dgn ada proton&perodua, rakyat ada pilihan utk kete yg agak tidak mahal.

    sapa ada byk $, bli la kete mahal.

    sapa ada cket $, bli la kete murah.

    sapa ada $ cket2, bli la kete yg lg murah.

    ikut poket la beb.

    kalu nk kete mewah tp xcukup $, jgn la bising2.

    umpamanye "xpandai menari dikatanye lantai jongkang-jongket".

    2. betul, kalu parah, kita boikot.

    dlm berforum ni ada yg supporter, basher, neutral.

    basher akn kata parah

    supporter akn kata ok

    neutral akn teliti basher&supporter ckp ape.

    kena rompak terang2 tu kita kena study detail cket.

    agak2nye harga 1 kete berapa?

    bape byk kete dh terjual?

    berbaloi ke beli kete (drp segi keselamatan)?

    berapa untung 1 kete company mark up?

    :)

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  • Jgn nak jadi bodoh? on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    [quote comment="230481"]3rd) The so-call tax we paid to G for buying Japanese car, where does it go? Inside their pocket? Considering: the road tax we paid is not cheap, and almost anywhere we drive on the road also need to paid toll?[/quote]

    RM 6billion utk suntikan ransangan EKONOMI tu dtg dari mana? org jepun ke yg bagi sebab org Malaysia rajin sgt support barangan diaorg? tanya sikit boleh? berapa byk tax yg ko bayar tiap-tiap thn?? kalo dikumpul dlm 10thn tax yg ko bayar, dpt beli motorsikal dlm "cash term" tak? :)

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  • Force on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    Good start for a new segment. However proton being proton that we know, the biggest letdown has always been the quality of materials used and the finishing that kills the product. Case in point waja. It was given the thumbs up by most auto journalist but after 2 years of production most of the owners are complaining. The infamous proton power window which TM said they have redesigned but fails on all the wajas within the warranty period! You can have the best design but by using inferior quality materials quick failure is a guarantee. So let's hope they use better quality materials, even Toy0t@ suffer from quality issues in the vios. Nuf said!

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  • civicminded on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    just imppressed with Dato Zainal presentation.. the mpv?? :)

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  • LogicallyMad on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    [quote comment="230953"][quote comment="230113"]What a weird kinda photo, Teh tarik? Still not fully developed locally, another Korean product.[/quote]

    it's 100% made in malaysia for malaysian. no connection whatsoever with korea. it's the first p1 product with the 'made in malaysia' seal.[/quote]

    wouldn't said that tbh…

    well korean company is the consultant of this MPV project… most ppl know abt this actually…

    but i can assure you.. THIS IS NOT A KOREAN PRODUCT, IT IS A MALAYSIAN PRODUCT….

    ^.^ proud to be malaysian ^.^

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  • P1 & P2 BASHER on Apr 17, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    [quote comment="230832"][quote comment="230633"][quote comment="230626"]Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.

    Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m'jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~

    pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton

    ada buat ke crash test ke tidak

    sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu

    tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata[/quote]

    looks like some1 never watch crash test video b4[/quote]

    Just spare his/her comment bro… maybe he's dunno what the purpose of "crumple zone".. just ignore thoose bashers…

    pity him/her.. typical m'sian mentality.. :)[/quote]

    The Crash Test 1 is based on 35km/h at it's speed already crash like this

    how about at a higher speed for 80km/h??? U always drive slow like 35km/h meh~

    For the crash test footage at a speed of 56km/h the moving tyre that moved backword to the cockpit already makes a threat to the driver and passenger.

    But still, I must mention for how safe a car it is, if u drive at high speed and bang, u'll sure die. This is what I'm want to emphasize, haiyar~ u guys cannot even accept other people's comment, somemore call " stupid" la, apa lah, apalah. C'mon, u must accept and listen to others people comment, P1 will always be a KAMPUNG CHAMPION it's because u these stupid loyalty supporters even P1 did something wrong and will still accept it,~~~WAIT did I say STUPID, sorry about that.

    BTW, the design of the headlamp isn't that beautiful like DSZ said Japanese design, and the side mirror is just an expansion set from Saga BLM's side mirror.

    PEACE~~~

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  • scottloeb on Apr 17, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    I visit the showroom yesterday. And this is my wife point of view:

    Exora got generous equipment. The seats are fabulously large and comfortable (for a seven seater). The plastics seems fine for the price. Plenty of cupholder and storage spaces. The air cond vent is a very good (not available in Wish). The rear seat folder mechanism works fine and relatively easy. But the designer of the exterior choose safe approach (as compared to Citroen Picasso). The moment you're in the car it feels like a blown up Saga. Nissan GL interior (the high grade – 1.8) feels very good (and luxurious) compared to H-Line (and this may be due to its colour choice). Grey for seat and door trim looks el-cheapo where black Persona works fine for her. Maybe for the 1.8 GEMA engine they will put different colour scheme (like PRIME concept and that is really nice). The DVD is fine, but the case for the player looks like petaling street (or cheapskate China) sourced product, unlike Proton standard (which normally use Blupunkt, Clarion, Sony or Kenwood which is very good compared to Perodua's Betamek/x WTF??). The gear knob and slots works really well and strangely look like Wish (Azlano is wish ower, remember?).

    I tend to agree with her as she is the 1st finance minister and she will be the driver for most of the time. We decided to hold back our purchase as we havnt got the slot for test drive but I strongly believe 1.6 CPS is good enough as my sister in law bought the Satria CPS (mind you, they drive a V6, E230 and Rexton, got a 1.3 mil bungalow and the Satria is their favorite daily commute car) and the CPS works really well. Strangely, the colour they chose for Exora interior seems to make it look cheaper but the grain (surface finish) for the IP is ok, maybe not for the door trim. Maybe the hot weather here create the decision for the designer, but esthetically it seems like a small disaster to me personally as an ex-industry staff. The equipment is really generous and all the tray and tools are in better compartment and design these days. Thumbs up for the effort but minor improvement is required to compete beyond ASEAN. This car is definitely an ASEAN winner.

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  • farghmee on Apr 17, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    [quote comment="230993"]

    The Crash Test 1 is based on 35km/h at it's speed already crash like this

    how about at a higher speed for 80km/h??? U always drive slow like 35km/h meh~

    For the crash test footage at a speed of 56km/h the moving tyre that moved backword to the cockpit already makes a threat to the driver and passenger.

    PEACE~~~[/quote]

    at least IT IS NCAP COMPLIANT. so that is the NCAP REQUIREMENT.

    we are talking about COMPLIANT & REQUIREMENT,NOT IF THIS or IF THAT.

    if u're driving at 110km/h, then slam the brake hardly,

    given all the system functioning, u can achieved that minimal speed.

    the speed laid by the requirement simulate the speed of the car after hardbraking, where it is maybe taken from survey.

    if i were in this crash test regulation committee, i would have the previlage to ask "why 35km/h not 80km/h?".

    since i'm not, so i better stick to the outlined rule.

    anyhow…is there any sane person will slam his car at high speed?

    8)

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  • Realeyes (Member) on Apr 17, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    [quote comment="230960"][quote comment="230918"]lagi satu…aku pekerja kelas bawahan…kewangan hanya cukup makan…tak arif pasai bab kereta ni..lepas baca komen pakar pakar sekalian…ada 2 soalan,

    1.. adakah sistem kenderaan kita terlalu membebankan rakyat pasal setiap kali ada proton ada pasal cukai sekaligus..

    2.. sekiranya betul betul parah sekali, bukankah kita patut boikotnya? kenapa ada yang terus jadi buta?

    i ni ilmu cetek jer..harap jgn marah dengan persoalan i..cuma saya dah jemu jadi miskin..miskin pasal sendiri takpe..ni pasal dirompak terang terang…[/quote]

    Tengok & dgr boleh la proton nih, nak beli tolong pikir 1000 kali. Dalam video semua cantik semua ok…realiti ? huh

    Lagi baik tunggu dan lihat, lihat pengalaman org yg beli exora…jgn dgr ckp salesman…hu hu hu

    Jgn dgr cakap perompak wang rakyat…huh[/quote]

    If only you guys stop watching P Ramlee movies, and start study engineering, then you can get whatever technology you wish for..

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  • Muammar on Apr 17, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Bravo PROTON!

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  • jeromycyl on Apr 17, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    lol, the key seems to be similar to the wave blade keys of honda.. haha..

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  • not_ah_beng on Apr 17, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and "Malaysian price".

    Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don't know maths!!

    Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don't even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.

    Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.

    DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his "BMW of Asia" also many were hero-worship him, somemore won "CEO of the Year". Hehe, what happen now?

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  • initial R on Apr 17, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    [quote comment="230968"][quote comment="230960"][quote comment="230918"]lagi satu…aku pekerja kelas bawahan…kewangan hanya cukup makan…tak arif pasai bab kereta ni..lepas baca komen pakar pakar sekalian…ada 2 soalan,

    1.. adakah sistem kenderaan kita terlalu membebankan rakyat pasal setiap kali ada proton ada pasal cukai sekaligus..

    2.. sekiranya betul betul parah sekali, bukankah kita patut boikotnya? kenapa ada yang terus jadi buta?

    i ni ilmu cetek jer..harap jgn marah dengan persoalan i..cuma saya dah jemu jadi miskin..miskin pasal sendiri takpe..ni pasal dirompak terang terang…[/quote]

    Tengok & dgr boleh la proton nih, nak beli tolong pikir 1000 kali. Dalam video semua cantik semua ok…realiti ? huh

    Lagi baik tunggu dan lihat, lihat pengalaman org yg beli exora…jgn dgr ckp salesman…hu hu hu

    Jgn dgr cakap perompak wang rakyat…huh[/quote]

    Sikap yg mcm ni la sebenarnya yg membuatkan Malaysia berada tahap sekarang. Macam mana nak maju. Aku rasa orang2 macam ni yg sebenarnya keje kat vendor2 Proton, tu yang Proton takleh nk kuarkan kete yang the best. Cubalah orang M'sia ni ubah sikap sket, think positive. Asyik pikir negative mana tak sume benda jadi negative?[/quote]

    Kalau cakap tentang susah, semua orang pun susah gak, kalau cakap miskin, semua orang miskin jugak, cuma beza daiorang dua nia adalah miskin syukur dengan kata lain kufur nikmat. Kita terlalu mengkaji G kita rompak duit rakyat tapi kita sedar yang kita serahkan duit kita bulat2 secara sukarela kepada lanun luar yang jual barang secara tipu. Aku dah penat nak ulang tapi kena ulang jugak. Kereta luar import masuk dengan kurangkan kualiti sebanyak 20% hingga 30% tapi masih dijual harga yang sama sebelum tax. kita tak nampak sebab kita kabur mata memuja lanun tu sampai ada barangan yang bermutu dari dalam negara dikatakan mahal padahal kualiti meterial telah improve. Aku pengguna proton sepanjang hayat. Bermula dari iswara, savvy & akan datang Exora. Aku boleh tengok peningkatan kualiti produk Proton. Tak dinafikan proton pernah berada dalam zaman kegelapan. Tapi sekarang Proton dah bangun. Bukti dah ada. DSZ dah janji akan beri penelitian atas pekara ini. Sekarang terpulang kepada rakyat malaysia samada nak jadi MALAYSIA atau jadi Malasiya. Satu lagi, kalau proton berjaya berapa banyak peluang pekerjaan akan terbuka lagi dalam keadaan ekonomi sekarang. Ingat sini, menyediakan pekerjaan itu adalah satu pahala, bekerja dengan ikhlas, rajin & jujur juga pahala. Haih sign, peluang buat duit kat malaysia nie besar. Terbukti yang pendatang tanpa izin sanggup datang balik ke malaysia walaupun dah dihantar pulang. Jangan kita Kufur Nikmat.

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  • farghmee on Apr 17, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    [quote comment="231002"]

    If only you guys stop watching P Ramlee movies, and start study engineering, then you can get whatever technology you wish for..[/quote]

    not true..u can watch p.ramlee's movies & study engineering like i did.

    in fact, p.ramlee's movies are somehow bring good message, such as:

    "dia punya nasib, dia mkn.

    awak punya nasib, awak mkn.

    apa salah kita mkn sama2?"

    -seniman bujang lapok, jaga singh sound mamat yg xpuas hati sbb 3bujanglapok nk audition jd pelakon. mamat tu expect dia lg ensem so layak jd pelakon.

    ;)

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  • jl@IPL on Apr 17, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    Personally, I think, a lot of people impressed with the interior and the BCM fitted to this Lady Exora (for sure, I'm one of them, again Congratulation to Proton).

    But at the same time, to my opinion, a lot of people reluctant (to buy) because of the fact of 1.6 Campro CPS.

    Base on Paul's test drive review (don't have the opportunity to test drive yet), I feel that driving Exora feel exactly like driving Wira 1.3 ( I mentioned this earlier under the Exora test drive review), believe me how that feel, I owned one). And now, the actual weight was more that 1.4 tonne!

    It is safe to say that, people just don't have the confident. Regardless of what the promotions say. And they don't even bothered to test drive to find out the truth.

    So, Proton, please work fast to improve (further) the performance. I strongly confident if this lady fitted with turbocharged 1.6 CPS, Electric Power Steering, Air cond. that cut out during hard acceleration, etc…more Malaysian has more confident to own one (including me), even if the price RM5 – 7K more!

    I believe, the above suggestions are within Proton reach in very near future…

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  • scottloeb on Apr 17, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    [quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and "Malaysian price".

    Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don't know maths!!

    Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don't even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.

    Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.

    DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his "BMW of Asia" also many were hero-worship him, somemore won "CEO of the Year". Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]

    Beng ah,

    I dont want to pay GST 7% for my chicken rice, pecking duck, chilli crab and groceries, I dont want to bid COE for my car, and I dont want to pay more than 45% of income tax to govt. So with that, i dont mind paying RM 10K more (approx) for vehicle price (when compared around ASEAN). In your wettest, wildest dream should govt remove the tax, Honda or Toyota will reduce theirs as per Langkawi price (and you still can get more than 3 years HP, with low interest – banks will definitely wants to make money). I know UMWT, I know the profit margin, and you may find my name on the excise sheet (brown colour paper) if you import one to Langkawi/Labuan. Understand the business model, the spare part, the service rates and the TOC before purging stuff.

    DSZ is Toyota trained guy, not ex Shell employee and he is very well verse in operation. He can recite the 5S values better then you and he definitely understand by heart the 7 types of MUDA and practice the Toyota Way values in his management (Respect for people & Continuous Improvement). He Gemba's a lot and Genchi Genbutsu is his nature, he seems to prefer Heijunka with multiple colours rather then massive production numbers and the design team seams to understand Jidoka from the start. And I personally believe he is not an ex-rally driver, so he is fine.

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  • Patrick on Apr 17, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Congrate to Proton for the 1st MPV … Hope it won't give problem later (after 3 months) like other Proton Model. Can consider to sell my Avanza :) Need test drive first before deposit for the Exora :)

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  • initial R on Apr 17, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    [quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and "Malaysian price".

    Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don't know maths!!

    Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don't even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.

    Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.

    DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his "BMW of Asia" also many were hero-worship him, somemore won "CEO of the Year". Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]

    How about u became CEO of proton. Since u know alot of things. :)

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  • Bailahtu on Apr 17, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    [quote comment="231010"]lol, the key seems to be similar to the wave blade keys of honda.. haha..[/quote]

    You dreaming ? You pernah nampak wave key kah ?

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  • mantop on Apr 17, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    [quote comment="230990"][quote comment="230953"][quote comment="230113"]What a weird kinda photo, Teh tarik? Still not fully developed locally, another Korean product.[/quote]

    it's 100% made in malaysia for malaysian. no connection whatsoever with korea. it's the first p1 product with the 'made in malaysia' seal.[/quote]

    wouldn't said that tbh…

    well korean company is the consultant of this MPV project… most ppl know abt this actually…

    but i can assure you.. THIS IS NOT A KOREAN PRODUCT, IT IS A MALAYSIAN PRODUCT….

    ^.^ proud to be malaysian ^.^[/quote]

    And, tuan tuan and puan puan sekalian, negeri China adalah supplier untuk BCM ! Tahniah ! ABS modula, air bag sensor dari negeri Korea ! Tahniah, ramai rakan kongsi dalam pengembangan industri kenderaan. Wassalam.

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  • LogicallyMad on Apr 17, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    [quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and "Malaysian price".

    Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don't know maths!!

    Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don't even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.

    Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.

    DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his "BMW of Asia" also many were hero-worship him, somemore won "CEO of the Year". Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]

    not_ah_beng ooo…… you need to know more than just maths…. that is reality of this world… especially in business…

    if only maths aaa.. even those 6/7 years old kid can explain why 1+1 = 2… but when you go into business/ economy point of view… 1+1 is not always 2… it can be sumthing that can't be explain by maths… and if you even hear about the explanation it might even turn ur world upside down… =p

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  • Wah 400 over comment ar? paul do u hv enough hard disk for this?

    Overall d mpv is very attractive to d eyes but i will hold my money 1st

    for few months to see any complains bout it. I still remember p1 history

    with their new design cars with all sorts of problem. Also in the sametime

    can wait for d p2 mpv as another choice.

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  • WOW…

    i love this car…

    it's like slightly larger than innova…

    just a little lower….

    and the price is bout 20k diffrence!

    i'm going to go to the showroom and check it out…

    heh…^^….

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  • nazri on Apr 17, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    any problem with that?? so if malaysian factory supply sensor @ chip for BMW car issit any diff with that?

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  • farghmee on Apr 17, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    [quote comment="231037"]

    And, tuan tuan and puan puan sekalian, negeri China adalah supplier untuk BCM ! Tahniah ! ABS modula, air bag sensor dari negeri Korea ! Tahniah, ramai rakan kongsi dalam pengembangan industri kenderaan. Wassalam.[/quote]

    hmm…agak2nye berapa % yg product malaysia? ;)

    Bro. movement quartz jam jenama Seiko pn buat kt My tau.

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  • scottloeb on Apr 17, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    [quote comment="231043"]any problem with that?? so if malaysian factory supply sensor @ chip for BMW car issit any diff with that?[/quote]

    aku rasa ramai sgt org bodoh la. kilang Infeneon tuh kat Batam ada, Melaka ada Kulim ada supply BMW, VW component diorang tak pening plak? tak kisah la dari mana, as long as ada spec. Ko ingt Toyota punya barang dari Denso pernah dia tulis Denso mana? Ada China, ada Indon, ada Siam, ada Bangi. selagi barang tuh Denso oklah. apa bebal la diorang nih. Jgn beli la TV Sony sbb buat kat Bangi, bukan Jepun. Bakatare!

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  • haiya, i d0nt understand the pr0t0n bashers la……if d0nt want t0 buy, then d0nt buy, why bising2 kat sini…haiya….

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  • donartz on Apr 17, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    Wow…a great car has arrive to the proton showroom…nice job P1..

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  • what2 in the butt on Apr 17, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    [quote comment="231038"][quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and "Malaysian price".

    Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don't know maths!!

    Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don't even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.

    Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.

    DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his "BMW of Asia" also many were hero-worship him, somemore won "CEO of the Year". Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]

    I think the question is who is idiot? u or him?

    syed zainal is a ceo of GLC in this country?

    u r a low life retarded mindf*ck person who just like to complain without any evidence..

    u talk like we never heard the car tax? what? r u retarded person?

    ur IQ must be below 30 right?

    Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and "Malaysian price".

    this statement is so true to our typical malaysians.. ( not like u , because u kinda a retard )

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  • initial R on Apr 17, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    [quote comment="231050"][quote comment="231037"]

    And, tuan tuan and puan puan sekalian, negeri China adalah supplier untuk BCM ! Tahniah ! ABS modula, air bag sensor dari negeri Korea ! Tahniah, ramai rakan kongsi dalam pengembangan industri kenderaan. Wassalam.[/quote]

    hmm…agak2nye berapa % yg product malaysia? ;)

    Bro. movement quartz jam jenama Seiko pn buat kt My tau.[/quote]

    Biar le si luncai terjun ngan labu2nya. kita tak rugi pun. Yang rugi ialah rakyat malaysia yang tau bersukur dengan apa yang ada.

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  • malado on Apr 17, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    yaa..very cunn.. i like internal, external but…power???

    with campro cps, same with neo…but that neo weight only 1212 kg, exora 1422…hmm so imagine neo with 3 person..big belly 70kg..

    exora 1.6 campro cps, try you all imagine driver + 2 passenger with average 60 kg/each, so total 1602 kg…How this CPS wanna drag to bukit tinggi genting..hmmmm…

    i think i will wait for perodua mpv…1.5 with weight around 1190 kg…it nearly to satria neo….

    …imagine add 3 person 60kg/each, so total 1370 kg…

    lower than exora curb weight…so if balik kampung add with beg, kuih raya, bla bla…total 1420 kg/gross weight..

    same with exora laa…..

    hm..i think no pr0blem for perodua satey 1.5/vios engine to climb bukit tinggi…

    hmm ada paham..tak paham ignore itt…

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  • initial R on Apr 17, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    [quote comment="231028"]
    DSZ is Toyota trained guy, not ex Shell employee and he is very well verse in operation. He can recite the 5S values better then you and he definitely understand by heart the 7 types of MUDA and practice the Toyota Way values in his management (Respect for people & Continuous Improvement). He Gemba's a lot and Genchi Genbutsu is his nature, he seems to prefer Heijunka with multiple colours rather then massive production numbers and the design team seams to understand Jidoka from the start. And I personally believe he is not an ex-rally driver, so he is fine.[/quote]
    Thats why DSZ can lead Proton to right path right now. Sorry Ah Beng, your math can't used in business coz 1+1 will not allways became 2. Some time 1 or 0. Do study more in business…. ;)

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  • mantop on Apr 17, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    siapa makan lada dia rasa panas. Jangan nanti bising pasal minyak kuat sama dengan Waja komsamsi minyak sama dengan Toyota Camry 2.0 walaupun satu 1.6L dengan 2.0L. Jangan lupa, Toyota Camry lebih berat dan besar saiznya dibanding dengan Waja dengan lebih 400cc daripada Waja. Huh huh, teknologi ?

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  • karungguni on Apr 17, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    tak payah gaduh gaduh internet di sini. kalau ingat bagus sangat, pigi jual kat Europah,Amerika , Jepun, Korea dan kontinent kontinent lain, tengok orang sana beli?Tak payah kutuk jenama jenama lain cakap orang punya produk kereta aseanlah, inilah itulah. Tengok jualan record orng dulu sebelum bukak itu mulut. Tengok Orang Korea dan Cina, jenama dia orang dah lama main globalisasi ! Pusing sini pusing sana la la kat sini jugak rupanya ! Wassalam.

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  • Prismo on Apr 17, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    [quote comment="231082"]siapa makan lada dia rasa panas. Jangan nanti bising pasal minyak kuat sama dengan Waja komsamsi minyak sama dengan Toyota Camry 2.0 walaupun satu 1.6L dengan 2.0L. Jangan lupa, Toyota Camry lebih berat dan besar saiznya dibanding dengan Waja dengan lebih 400cc daripada Waja. Huh huh, teknologi ?[/quote]

    Waja mana yg kuat minyak? Enjin CamPro ataupun enjin mitsu 4G18? aku pengguna Waja 4G18, dan pernah jugak menggunakan Gen2 1st batch (bare CamPro engine) kawan aku selama 3hari (dia suruh aku jaga semasa dia outstation hehe), penggunaan minyak sama je… cuma pickup je sluggish below 4k rpm…

    Itulah org M'sia, nak enjin 1.6 paling laju dlm kelasnya.. tapi kena ingat.. sanggup ke bayar harga lebih utk minyak?

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  • madimat on Apr 17, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    [quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and "Malaysian price".

    Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don't know maths!!

    Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don't even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.

    Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.

    DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his "BMW of Asia" also many were hero-worship him, somemore won "CEO of the Year". Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]

    Bongok betul la si AhBeng ni…

    Apa kena mengena IDRIS JUSOH dengan cerita yang ko tulis ni, ha mangkuk.. ?? Idris Jusoh ..? Cuba ko gi buat research siapa itu IDRIS JUSOH.

    Lain kali nak taip guna kepala hotak la bodoh,.. jangan pakai kepala bontot kao.

    Tu la, .. bodoh tak bertempat alih alih campak taik terbaling ke muka ko sendiri. Dasar budak mentah yang bangang .

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  • Bodohland on Apr 17, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Exora MPV similar to Innova size! yet there are blind protonians claim it is spacious? What a pathetic if you ask Arab in Dubai, it is a small van (Innova is not MPV) fit for transporting workers only.

    Even their hospital used Estima as Ambulance to transport patient! If Exora export to UAE, it is at most as good as Innova only! Perhap MY market bombarded by low quality high price car for far too long, current generation of car users and buyers, out of craptriotic and ignorant, will treat Exora like goddest figure since it is first MPV from P1.

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  • Ah Soh on Apr 17, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    Oh..o! I think Nissan Livina is in big troble now.

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  • madimat on Apr 17, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    [quote comment="230918"]lagi satu…aku pekerja kelas bawahan…kewangan hanya cukup makan…tak arif pasai bab kereta ni..lepas baca komen pakar pakar sekalian…ada 2 soalan,

    1.. adakah sistem kenderaan kita terlalu membebankan rakyat pasal setiap kali ada proton ada pasal cukai sekaligus..

    2.. sekiranya betul betul parah sekali, bukankah kita patut boikotnya? kenapa ada yang terus jadi buta?

    i ni ilmu cetek jer..harap jgn marah dengan persoalan i..cuma saya dah jemu jadi miskin..miskin pasal sendiri takpe..ni pasal dirompak terang terang…[/quote]

    bro,

    1. cukai apa yang you kena bayar bro..? kalau tak silap i,.. orang yang gaji bawah RM2000 takde kena cukai , kan..? you jangan la menyamar jadi orang miskin pulak pasal semata-mata nak kondem tak tahu hujung pangkal.

    2. u pegi balik kerja naik moto ke bro..? bukan ke moto tak kena cukai jalan bro. kalau u betul2 miskin lah… i takut you orang yang menyamar je pasal nak kondem

    3. you sure ke Proton aje yang "MENCUKAIKAN" rakyat…? you kena ingat, bro… Perodua pun kira macam "Syarikat Otomotif Nasional" jugak bro… so kalau nak boikot kena la you kempenkan untuk boikot Perodua sekali ya bro,… jangan la pulak you pakat boikot Proton aje. hah, you punya moto Modenas tu pun syarikat Nasional jugak,.. apa kata you boikot you punya moto tu sekali, boleh kan bro..? ;-)

    so, jangan risau lah! kalau you orang brpendapatan rendah you takde a kena cukai macam i yang yang kena bayar dekat RM6000 setahun.

    peace!

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  • Saw the Exora. A very good effort. I see it as my future transport. I have got 3 trouble free protons already, will get another Proton (Savvy) soon. Proud to be Malaysian. Proton truly a Malaysian car manufacturer.

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  • P1 & P2 BASHER on Apr 17, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    [quote comment="231037"][quote comment="230990"][quote comment="230953"][quote comment="230113"]What a weird kinda photo, Teh tarik? Still not fully developed locally, another Korean product.[/quote]

    it's 100% made in malaysia for malaysian. no connection whatsoever with korea. it's the first p1 product with the 'made in malaysia' seal.[/quote]

    wouldn't said that tbh…

    well korean company is the consultant of this MPV project… most ppl know abt this actually…

    but i can assure you.. THIS IS NOT A KOREAN PRODUCT, IT IS A MALAYSIAN PRODUCT….

    ^.^ proud to be malaysian ^.^[/quote]

    And, tuan tuan and puan puan sekalian, negeri China adalah supplier untuk BCM ! Tahniah ! ABS modula, air bag sensor dari negeri Korea ! Tahniah, ramai rakan kongsi dalam pengembangan industri kenderaan. Wassalam.[/quote]

    Hanya BCM tu saje ke? Drpda perhatian saya tu, LCD tu 100% dr Negara CHINA, sebab I kenal remote tu.

    Tapi, apa harga u bayar, apa barang u dapat lar~

    Tapi I kena beritahu semua, Negara China bukan keluar barang yang tdk baik, sebaliknya ada yg BERclass punya, cuma apa wang yang kamu bayar saje. Tdk kena mengena dgn brg ni buatan China.

    Sebaliknya apa2 barang di Dunia ini byk mengadungi brg Jepun DAN CHINA dan bukan barangan Malaisiasia, kenapa? Kerana Malaisiasia tak m'jlnkan ekonomi OPEN MARKET, mrk coma penting-mementingkan diri-sendiri shj.

    Kalau u taknak bagi org sedikit benefit, u mana dapat teknologi, sebaliknya Negara China, sekarang US pun takut pada dia.

    Jangn ingatkan brg Malaisiasia shj, brg China pun ada byk baik punya.

    Good move Proton for using BARANGAN CHINA, but make sure it is the top class CHINA PRODUCT ya! We don't mind using China product, because China is a well established and good country. they are specialised in production, manufacturing and assembly of consumer product.

    For those who step on and look down on the Chery product(instead these bastard are no manners and didn't teach enuf by their mommy from childhood) China will thus be the leader to lead the world in the future, coz U.S already DOWN DOWN DOWN.

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  • weirt on Apr 17, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    OUR POLITICIANS DUMP PROTON FOR OTHER CARS BUT I AM NOT GOING TO DO THAT… I BECAUSE I AM PROUD THAT MY COUNTRY MAKES THEIR OWN CAR.. I AM PROUD TO OWN A PROTON THAT MAKES FROM THE SWEAT OF MY BELOVED MALAYSIANS OF ALL CREEDS. EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE SAYS I AM STUPID I AM PAYING MORE..NOPE!! THINGS MADE FROM MALAYSIA IS A PURE DEDICATION & COMMITMENT …IS PRICELESS… I AM PROUD TO SEE MY FOLKS CLIMB MOUNT EVEREST, SWIM ACROSS THE CHANNEL AND GO TO SPACE…

    I AM A MALAYSIAN FIRST AND MY RACE IS A SECOND … KEEP UP PROTON!! DUNNO DESPAIR & HELD YOUR HEAD HIGH THAT U CAN MAKE A PROTON BETTER THAN TOYOTA & GM….

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  • weirt on Apr 17, 2009 at 11:44 pm

    OUR POLITICIANS DUMP PROTONS FOR OTHER MAKES… I AM NOT GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE I AM PROUD THAT MY COUNTRY MAKES THEIR OWN CAR AND IS A PRIDE OF MY MALAYSIANS… I KNOW SOME WILL SAY I AM STUPID..NOPE ! A MALAYSIAN MADE CAR (PROTON) IS MADE FROM PURE DEDICATIONS, COMMITMENTS AND TRUE SOUL OF MALAYSIANS FROM ALL CREEDS… I AM PROUD TO SEE MY FOLKS CLIMB THE MOUNT EVEREST, SWIM THE ENGLISH CHANNEL AND GO TO SPACE…NO BODY SHOULD EVER DEGRADE MY COUNTRY BECAUSE IT BELONGS TO ME….I AM A MALAYSIAN FIRST AND MY RACE IS A SECOND MATTER….KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK PROTON ENSURE YOUR CARS ARE BETTER THAN BEFORE!!!

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  • Prismo on Apr 18, 2009 at 12:03 am

    [quote comment="230993"]

    The Crash Test 1 is based on 35km/h at it's speed already crash like this

    how about at a higher speed for 80km/h??? U always drive slow like 35km/h meh~

    For the crash test footage at a speed of 56km/h the moving tyre that moved backword to the cockpit already makes a threat to the driver and passenger.

    But still, I must mention for how safe a car it is, if u drive at high speed and bang, u'll sure die. This is what I'm want to emphasize, haiyar~ u guys cannot even accept other people's comment, somemore call " stupid" la, apa lah[/quote]

    U always drive 80km/h meh?~~ certain road, must drive with different speed.. in kampung road i always drive 35km/h..

    Ok, watch this video..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgsEUp65qNM&fe…
    Look at the front wheel.. This Honda Airwave front tyre also move backward to the cockpit.. can i say that already makes a threat to the driver and passenger?

    Yep i do agree, no matter how safe ur is, if u still driving beyond the limit and involve in an accident, u will die.. and i will never take any risk driving with high speed with my families onboard… and FYI, no one has called u stupid or whatsoever.. :)

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  • madmarzio on Apr 18, 2009 at 12:14 am

    Hey guys, i feel pity for 'mantop'. Nobody "nak layan" his brilliant opinions…

    Get a life, and work hard man..

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  • oklah..nak apa lagi… janji tak kena hujan, panas… banyak komplen pulak… tak suka jangan beli.. habih cerita…

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  • John Doe Malaysia on Apr 18, 2009 at 12:28 am

    [quote comment="231063"]yaa..very cunn.. i like internal, external but…power???

    with campro cps, same with neo…but that neo weight only 1212 kg, exora 1422…hmm so imagine neo with 3 person..big belly 70kg..

    exora 1.6 campro cps, try you all imagine driver + 2 passenger with average 60 kg/each, so total 1602 kg…How this CPS wanna drag to bukit tinggi genting..hmmmm…

    i think i will wait for perodua mpv…1.5 with weight around 1190 kg…it nearly to satria neo….

    …imagine add 3 person 60kg/each, so total 1370 kg…

    lower than exora curb weight…so if balik kampung add with beg, kuih raya, bla bla…total 1420 kg/gross weight..

    same with exora laa…..

    hm..i think no pr0blem for perodua satey 1.5/vios engine to climb bukit tinggi…

    hmm ada paham..tak paham ignore itt…[/quote]

    Don't simply make assumption wihout any fact and figure..In fact that DSZ as well follow Exora endurance team to Genting just to believe/ feel for himself. No issues whatsoever related to the 1.6 Campro CPS cruise up to the hill like Genting and Bukit Tinggi..fyi for all the no-brain-bashers, 150 Nm at 4500rpm was tested alone at Dyno Test Bench facilities without any modification, means standard CamproCPS operates. For Exora, there was another 5 exclusive parts already change/ improve to increase torque. Have you heard any flywheel, clutch disc, clutch cover, alternator and newly formatted ECU, I didn't expect no-brain-bashers to understand thoroughly about engines. We expected with all new exlusive parts installed on this Exora, it gives Torque up to 205 Nm, that's why you won't have any problem to Genting or even climb Bukit Tujuh during balik kampung trip to Kelantan. Just for another info to no-brain bashers to starts rethink again before publish any misleading comments.

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  • majavaz on Apr 18, 2009 at 12:36 am

    hahaha.. banyak betul komen bodoh ye kat sini?.. dah la tu bashers…. hati busuk betul..! taknak beli duduk diam2.. nak bagi cadangan bgtau part ape yg kena betulkan.. Ini, belum test drive dah bercakap macam pandai sangat.. hai. dengki betul mereka itu… aku pun beli kete proton je sebab tu je yg aku mampu dgn kualiti dia yg ok lah.. tak la teruk sangat pun.. kalau ade defect, aku ganti kat proton.. free je… (setakat ni la..) kalau rosak teruk sebab aku pun guna ganas sgt kut.. dah jual 70k pun cakap mahal lagi?.. jual murah sgt cakap takde kualiti plak.. buduss

    GOOD JOB PROTON!!.. aku harap boleh tengok peningkatan yg lebih pasni dari proton..

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  • John Doe Malaysia on Apr 18, 2009 at 12:44 am

    [quote comment="230756"]yeah, agree. plastic part still not on par with toyota.

    during the crash, the hood should be designed to absorb the kinetic energy i.e. crush or folded to avoid the intrusion to the cabin. mau putus kepala ka?

    also agree with the underpower issue, but it should be decent enough to carry people.

    hope proton will come up with new fuel economy engine with higher torque for the exora with front&rear brake disc, esc and new transmission.[/quote]

    Bro, grab the test unit and feel for yourself. As mentioned by PT during his review, no problem to climb Bukit Tinggi with full load condition. 150 Nm was only a standard torque output at Dyno test, but actual on vehicle condition was higher, up to 205 Nm. For newly develop engines, yes Proton on the way to upgrading for both Engines (Turbocharge) and T/M as well (CVT Tech), but not in this short period of time.

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  • majavaz on Apr 18, 2009 at 12:45 am

    [quote comment="231082"]siapa makan lada dia rasa panas. Jangan nanti bising pasal minyak kuat sama dengan Waja komsamsi minyak sama dengan Toyota Camry 2.0 walaupun satu 1.6L dengan 2.0L. Jangan lupa, Toyota Camry lebih berat dan besar saiznya dibanding dengan Waja dengan lebih 400cc daripada Waja. Huh huh, teknologi ?[/quote]

    madmarzio… sorry kalau aku terlayan dia ni.. sebab aku rase dia patut masuk proton ajar bebudak proton tu buat kereta.. Master dia nih.. semua dia dah kaji… betul kan?

    "It is not what you drive that's matter, It is how you drive it.. see?" aku quote pakcik jeremy clarkson punye ayat..

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  • sette on Apr 18, 2009 at 1:00 am

    I went to the launching last wednesday, and notice one guy who spent a lot of time investigating the exora, taking videos of the engine compartment, underbody and so on. not like normal customers!!

    I don't think PROTON staffs mind people doing that, but I personally think he shouldn't do it during the Launching event! The VIPs were around him, camera's are all around..yet this guy doing research like nobody's business..

    I'm sure anyone whoever went to KLCC last wednesday must have noticed this guy..not only that, that guy also using his girl to cover him while taking videos inside the engine room..

    I'm very sure he's from PERODUA or maybe TOYOTA.

    I should have taken a video of him..haishhh

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  • begger on Apr 18, 2009 at 1:11 am

    what, another proton?? NO NO, NO MORE PROTON IN MY LIFE. FREE ALSO DUN WANT.. LATER ENDED UP PAYING DOUBLE $$ JUST TO REPAIR AND KEEP IT RUNING!!! Sister bought a SAGA BLM, 2nd day, gear box jatuh, cau u believe it? Bro bought a Person M-line, after 3/4mths, fuel leaking.. Perdana re-sale value NOT EVEN the price of NEW SAGA!!

    exore?? YOU GUYS CAN ENJOY ya!! thanku thank u

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  • Tupak on Apr 18, 2009 at 1:15 am

    [quote comment="231029"]Congrate to Proton for the 1st MPV … Hope it won't give problem later (after 3 months) like other Proton Model. Can consider to sell my Avanza :) Need test drive first before deposit for the Exora :)[/quote]

    Asked the second hand car dealer yesterday, need to top up another 5-6K to sell my @vanza…huhuhuhu

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  • LogicallyMad on Apr 18, 2009 at 1:19 am

    [quote comment="231140"]I went to the launching last wednesday, and notice one guy who spent a lot of time investigating the exora, taking videos of the engine compartment, underbody and so on. not like normal customers!!

    I don't think PROTON staffs mind people doing that, but I personally think he shouldn't do it during the Launching event! The VIPs were around him, camera's are all around..yet this guy doing research like nobody's business..

    I'm sure anyone whoever went to KLCC last wednesday must have noticed this guy..not only that, that guy also using his girl to cover him while taking videos inside the engine room..

    I'm very sure he's from PERODUA or maybe TOYOTA.

    I should have taken a video of him..haishhh[/quote]

    trying to find a point to bash maybe… or he was amazed by exora and can't stop himself from taking pics…. lol..

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  • wajadriver on Apr 18, 2009 at 1:52 am

    Since full AFTA is approaching, Malaysia own market is no long a cash cow. Finally proton is trying too improve the quality and their image after so long. Safety it seem quite convincing, but how about those accessories and internal finishing? Yet to find out.

    Example:

    In term of performance Waja is quite stable and speedy.

    But within 5 years, i need to replace 2 door handle (driver and passenger side). For Waja owner you will know what i mean. The plastic quality is bad.

    I agree with earlier comment mentioning that, National car suppose to be much more cheaper than imported. Malaysian mentality of "Support Malaysia Product" must be right. We can't just blindly support without comparing. If we care about Malaysia product we be more fussy about our product. To push our Malaysia car manufacturer to a higher standard. We cannot just proud of Malaysia because we are producing car. We proud when we have a great quality car and yet price competitive.

    Please Set our proud standard higher

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  • hi arise, i never said that it will have 3 point in the middle, thats why i ask u to zoom to the picture to find the answer because i cannot disclosed the info during that time. yes, all have pretensioner, not only the front row, the brochure just want to emphasise that to complement with airbags, it has pretensioner and load limiter. in the brochure doesnt state about load limiter because it is a standard nowadays that for if the car come with airbags, it will have seatbelt come with pretensioner and load limiter. about the price that kiss said earlier, it was true in the beginning but the price is not include insurance and registration but the management reduce a little bit of the price compare to the proposal price, so u can see the reduce in price without insurance is lower than the propose one. so its good for the people. for me, i didnt care to much about the price because it is out of my work area. anyway, i hope that all of those who just give their comments based on assumption, just go to the showroom for test drive, than u can comment. if i not mistaken, the test drive unit will be available on 20th of april, so headdown to the showroom k,shall we…adios………

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  • alldisc on Apr 18, 2009 at 2:20 am

    an effort worth 2 thumbs up!

    3 things that proton may want to consider for future improvement

    1. toll card holder (most japanese cars have this feature, especially JDM)

    2. rake and reach steering column (or some say vertical/horizontal adjustment)

    3. built in touch n go feature. we insert a touch n go card at the dashboard, and a sensor will communicate with the toll system.

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  • em, about the third row seat, ada yang masih xpaham macammana nak gune, mr cupin, awak kena sandarkan@tarik seat yang ketiga tu ke belakang yang boleh, baru dia sampai ke optimum seat configuration dia, baru orang dewasa akan duduk ngan selesa. try pegi showroom semula dan check, tapi janganla banding dengan alphard plak, banding dengan kia rondo dan innova,baru awak tau beza luas dia, malas nak bagi fakta nombor berapa luas beza. seat yang row kedua, memang takbleh tarik depan belakang sebab nak bagi senang full flat dan senang seat nak angkat abis. harap2, bleh paham. em pasal enjin,test drive la dulu, baru la cakap underpower atau tak ok. tapi lebih baik buat head on comparison dengan avanza 1.5 dan grand livina 1.6. bukan on paper, tapi on the road test. enjin 1.6 cps dah cukup memadai untuk dalam kelasnya. tapi tunggu, u might be suprise in the future with proton capabilities when proton going head on with the giantsssssssssssssss with FE and LE……..he..he..he…adios

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  • crazy on Apr 18, 2009 at 2:39 am

    i dont understand why potong still cannot do the best car in our own country, such a heavy car about 1422kg carry by 1.6cc?? i wonder potong designer brain fill with what??

    this potong think we r stupid like them or pakcik n makcik which do not know car, just know how 2 drive from a to b!! it has been almost 20yrs poduce car, still make 3rd world or low class car!! just how lazy and bum they r (just put failure gen2 engine to exora) cannot design and make 1.8 or 2.0 engine meh?? it is so difficult??

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  • Fridz (Member) on Apr 18, 2009 at 2:48 am

    [quote comment="231140"]I went to the launching last wednesday, and notice one guy who spent a lot of time investigating the exora, taking videos of the engine compartment, underbody and so on. not like normal customers!!

    I don't think PROTON staffs mind people doing that, but I personally think he shouldn't do it during the Launching event! The VIPs were around him, camera's are all around..yet this guy doing research like nobody's business..

    I'm sure anyone whoever went to KLCC last wednesday must have noticed this guy..not only that, that guy also using his girl to cover him while taking videos inside the engine room..

    I'm very sure he's from PERODUA or maybe TOYOTA.

    I should have taken a video of him..haishhh[/quote]

    No laaa….why not PERODUA or TOYOTA just buy 2exora model and study the model inside the perodua/toyota factory?simply, look at proton brought 2 toyota wish to study and investigate…

    but i agree that man's behaviour was just wierd and suspicious.as for assumption,we can say he is perodua or toyota salesman.

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  • [quote comment="230964"]this MPV cannot seat seven adults "comfortably" as claimed by proton.

    it is the same category as kia caren as far as seats are concerned. I seated at the back seat for 5 minutes and it was so uncomfortable and my waist and knees started to give way. Mind you i am just 5' 3'' and weigh 60 kg. It cannot even beat avanza for 7 seater. the rest is ok, just wait for a few months to see if there is any major problems.[/quote]

    hi, u sure u weight 60kg with 5'3 body…. frankly i am 6 footer with 82kg frame (similar size with PT but thinnner) and i find myself very comfortable with this car. i went to show room twice already (yesterday and today) and even sit at 3rd row and find it very spacious…. u sure u feel uncomfortable? maybe u health is having problem or you sitting posture is wrong….

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  • Fridz (Member) on Apr 18, 2009 at 3:10 am

    [quote comment="231050"][quote comment="231037"]

    And, tuan tuan and puan puan sekalian, negeri China adalah supplier untuk BCM ! Tahniah ! ABS modula, air bag sensor dari negeri Korea ! Tahniah, ramai rakan kongsi dalam pengembangan industri kenderaan. Wassalam.[/quote]

    hmm…agak2nye berapa % yg product malaysia? ;)

    Bro. movement quartz jam jenama Seiko pn buat kt My tau.[/quote]

    Aku tambah; surface ring pada jam Seiko tu buat kat kilang EPSON kat Kempas Johor je..

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  • makan-makan on Apr 18, 2009 at 3:24 am

    [quote comment="230964"]this MPV cannot seat seven adults "comfortably" as claimed by proton.

    it is the same category as kia caren as far as seats are concerned. I seated at the back seat for 5 minutes and it was so uncomfortable and my waist and knees started to give way. Mind you i am just 5' 3'' and weigh 60 kg. It cannot even beat avanza for 7 seater. the rest is ok, just wait for a few months to see if there is any major problems.[/quote]

    Hi Cupin, sure or not your weight is 60 kg..maybe 90 kg kot..salah tengok

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  • 7213209 (Member) on Apr 18, 2009 at 4:18 am

    [quote comment="231173"][quote comment="231050"][quote comment="231037"]

    And, tuan tuan and puan puan sekalian, negeri China adalah supplier untuk BCM ! Tahniah ! ABS modula, air bag sensor dari negeri Korea ! Tahniah, ramai rakan kongsi dalam pengembangan industri kenderaan. Wassalam.[/quote]

    hmm…agak2nye berapa % yg product malaysia? ;)

    Bro. movement quartz jam jenama Seiko pn buat kt My tau.[/quote]

    Aku tambah; surface ring pada jam Seiko tu buat kat kilang EPSON kat Kempas Johor je..[/quote]

    and berlambak brand jepun made in china sekarang.

    not all barang made in china cikai.

    2nd penang bridge also consultant from china. LOL!

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  • raptor on Apr 18, 2009 at 4:47 am

    [quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and "Malaysian price".

    Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don't know maths!!

    Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don't even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.

    Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.

    DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his "BMW of Asia" also many were hero-worship him, somemore won "CEO of the Year". Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]

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  • raptor on Apr 18, 2009 at 5:00 am

    [quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and "Malaysian price".

    Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don't know maths!!

    Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don't even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.

    Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.

    DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his "BMW of Asia" also many were hero-worship him, somemore won "CEO of the Year". Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]

    [quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and "Malaysian price".

    Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don't know maths!!

    Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don't even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.

    Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.

    DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his "BMW of Asia" also many were hero-worship him, somemore won "CEO of the Year". Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]

    weii,klo idris jala director MAS 2 btlla jgk,.he2

    nway,good job proton!

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  • infinity on Apr 18, 2009 at 5:32 am

    [quote comment="231161"]em, about the third row seat, ada yang masih xpaham macammana nak gune, mr cupin, awak kena sandarkan@tarik seat yang ketiga tu ke belakang yang boleh, baru dia sampai ke optimum seat configuration dia, baru orang dewasa akan duduk ngan selesa. try pegi showroom semula dan check, tapi janganla banding dengan alphard plak, banding dengan kia rondo dan innova,baru awak tau beza luas dia, malas nak bagi fakta nombor berapa luas beza. seat yang row kedua, memang takbleh tarik depan belakang sebab nak bagi senang full flat dan senang seat nak angkat abis. harap2, bleh paham. em pasal enjin,test drive la dulu, baru la cakap underpower atau tak ok. tapi lebih baik buat head on comparison dengan avanza 1.5 dan grand livina 1.6. bukan on paper, tapi on the road test. enjin 1.6 cps dah cukup memadai untuk dalam kelasnya. tapi tunggu, u might be suprise in the future with proton capabilities when proton going head on with the giantsssssssssssssss with FE and LE……..he..he..he…adios[/quote]

    460, do u mind shedding some info bout FE and LE??wat is it??

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  • isfufushah on Apr 18, 2009 at 5:38 am

    here… i gather this info. for u guys…

    livina 1.8 – 93kw (126ps – 124bhp) – 1280kg = 10.3

    exora – 125bhp – 1422kg = 11

    citra II rondo – 145bhp – 1563kg = 10.7

    stream – 103kw (140ps – 138bhp) – 1385kg = 10

    wish – 110kw (150ps – 147bhp) – 1410kg = 9.5

    *Note: (= power to weight ratio) lowest is better

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  • beachboi83 on Apr 18, 2009 at 5:41 am

    [quote comment="230915"][quote comment="230803"][quote comment="230133"]"rakyat malaysia inginkan kenderaan yg mmpunyai performance like european cars, styling like japanese cars, dan harga malaysia." -DSZ (during the launching presentation)

    i think this mpv has full fill the requirements.

    btw, i think the front grill has made proton founded their identity:][/quote]

    the front grille is proton's identity? haha i don't know abt that

    anyway i think beneath the skin is either a mitsubishi or toyota frame etc

    there are only a few minor changes on the lights and interior[/quote]

    Can provide proof please? If not you will just look plain stupid.[/quote]

    well that's what is being done whether u choose to believe or not doesn't matter haha. the design almost resembles the wish or the grandis with minor changes here and there sp that they can call it their own. think abt it salamander

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  • As claimed by paul – "We had another short drive around Cyberjaya where the media drive was held and this time I noticed that the Exora was a little more bouncy that usual. I asked the engineers whether there were any differences between the prototype specifications and the production car that we drove and they said yes".

    Test drive it first, as mention by paul, the car was BOUNCY because difference spec of suspension being used. Test drive on flat road oso no point…cannot reveal true face of exorra.

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  • infinity on Apr 18, 2009 at 5:52 am

    [quote comment="231161"]em, about the third row seat, ada yang masih xpaham macammana nak gune, mr cupin, awak kena sandarkan@tarik seat yang ketiga tu ke belakang yang boleh, baru dia sampai ke optimum seat configuration dia, baru orang dewasa akan duduk ngan selesa. try pegi showroom semula dan check, tapi janganla banding dengan alphard plak, banding dengan kia rondo dan innova,baru awak tau beza luas dia, malas nak bagi fakta nombor berapa luas beza. seat yang row kedua, memang takbleh tarik depan belakang sebab nak bagi senang full flat dan senang seat nak angkat abis. harap2, bleh paham. em pasal enjin,test drive la dulu, baru la cakap underpower atau tak ok. tapi lebih baik buat head on comparison dengan avanza 1.5 dan grand livina 1.6. bukan on paper, tapi on the road test. enjin 1.6 cps dah cukup memadai untuk dalam kelasnya. tapi tunggu, u might be suprise in the future with proton capabilities when proton going head on with the giantsssssssssssssss with FE and LE……..he..he..he…adios[/quote]

    460, do u mind shedding some info about the FE and LE??wat is it??

    give us some hints,ok??

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  • 7213209 (Member) on Apr 18, 2009 at 6:06 am

    well that's what is being done whether u choose to believe or not doesn't matter haha. the design almost resembles the wish or the grandis with minor changes here and there sp that they can call it their own. think abt it salamander[/quote]

    duh!

    keta / MPV even lori sekali pun pusing kiri kanan atas bawah memang ada similarity lah fren!

    nx time gi amik gambar semua MPV then buat comparison. tak pun boleh buat design sendiri enjin letak atas bumbung. then boleh buat MPV bentuk silinder pulak. baru orang kata macam lori tangki pulak. lepas ni boleh la proton buat competition design pulak. baru la tukang complaint ni boleh voice out.

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  • nahar on Apr 18, 2009 at 6:33 am

    Hey congrats to you guys…I am from singapore and i think Proton has done very well with this new Exora. I wonder when its coming to our country….

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  • Jgn nak jadi bodoh? on Apr 18, 2009 at 6:45 am

    [quote comment="231142"]what, another proton?? NO NO, NO MORE PROTON IN MY LIFE. FREE ALSO DUN WANT.. LATER ENDED UP PAYING DOUBLE $$ JUST TO REPAIR AND KEEP IT RUNING!!! Sister bought a SAGA BLM, 2nd day, gear box jatuh, cau u believe it? Bro bought a Person M-line, after 3/4mths, fuel leaking.. Perdana re-sale value NOT EVEN the price of NEW SAGA!!

    exore?? YOU GUYS CAN ENJOY ya!! thanku thank u[/quote]

    Give free oso dun want hah? U just pulling our legs right?

    later end up paying double $$ to repair and keep it's running? Why it's easy to my pocket maintaining my 2002 Waja and it's still running on the road "dgn penuh bergaya"?

    ur sister buying saga and end up with "gearbox jatuh"? r u kidding me? ofcoz i'm not believing u.. why dont u taking that gearbox pics and post it's here? after that we will believe u…

    my fren honda civic engine oso got leaking la..

    ya, we are enjoying Exora right now…

    If ur sis saga gearbox really "jatuh".. send it to Proton SC and claim for warranty.. oso dont forget to call Proton I-Care and inform them regarding thus problems.. :)

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  • riddler on Apr 18, 2009 at 7:10 am

    [quote comment="231208"][quote comment="230915"][quote comment="230803"][quote comment="230133"]"rakyat malaysia inginkan kenderaan yg mmpunyai performance like european cars, styling like japanese cars, dan harga malaysia." -DSZ (during the launching presentation)

    i think this mpv has full fill the requirements.

    btw, i think the front grill has made proton founded their identity:][/quote]

    the front grille is proton's identity? haha i don't know abt that

    anyway i think beneath the skin is either a mitsubishi or toyota frame etc

    there are only a few minor changes on the lights and interior[/quote]

    Can provide proof please? If not you will just look plain stupid.[/quote]

    well that's what is being done whether u choose to believe or not doesn't matter haha. the design almost resembles the wish or the grandis with minor changes here and there sp that they can call it their own. think abt it salamander[/quote]

    Adoi…. ni sorg lg……. cetek ilmu tp nk tunjuk pandai…. kesian, salamander-san, i agree with u man…bravo proton

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  • John Doe Malaysia on Apr 18, 2009 at 7:43 am

    [quote comment="231168"]i dont understand why potong still cannot do the best car in our own country, such a heavy car about 1422kg carry by 1.6cc?? i wonder potong designer brain fill with what??

    this potong think we r stupid like them or pakcik n makcik which do not know car, just know how 2 drive from a to b!! it has been almost 20yrs poduce car, still make 3rd world or low class car!! just how lazy and bum they r (just put failure gen2 engine to exora) cannot design and make 1.8 or 2.0 engine meh?? it is so difficult??[/quote]

    Dear Mr Crazy@ DumbA**@Numb@Retard or whatever…. Deposit your resume to Proton and let's see your capability/ ability to help Proton. I'll personally interview you once your resume receive at HR counter. Everythings gone wrong with Proton based on your empty-headed brain and we most welcome a person like you to fine tune Proton (If your IQ sufficient). Be a good bashers to improve Proton, don't simply story telling without fact; unless you are completely useless.

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  • muacaca on Apr 18, 2009 at 7:43 am

    y the GPS got campur2 bahasa. Instruction in english but command in BM

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  • Yusrimau on Apr 18, 2009 at 7:45 am

    Overall is Marvelous… but there are something wrong with the door…bunyi nipis n tak padat..bunyi macam ade rongga je..anyway, congratulation proton….

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  • John Doe Malaysia on Apr 18, 2009 at 8:00 am

    [quote comment="231227"]Hey congrats to you guys…I am from singapore and i think Proton has done very well with this new Exora. I wonder when its coming to our country….[/quote]

    At least our friends at S'pore also amaze on Exora, shall arrive in S'pore in a short time, after Manual T/M officially open for booking. TQ Singaporean for having faith on Malaysian products.

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  • elpaciko on Apr 18, 2009 at 8:17 am

    [quote comment="231142"]what, another proton?? NO NO, NO MORE PROTON IN MY LIFE. FREE ALSO DUN WANT.. LATER ENDED UP PAYING DOUBLE $$ JUST TO REPAIR AND KEEP IT RUNING!!! Sister bought a SAGA BLM, 2nd day, gear box jatuh, cau u believe it? Bro bought a Person M-line, after 3/4mths, fuel leaking.. Perdana re-sale value NOT EVEN the price of NEW SAGA!!

    exore?? YOU GUYS CAN ENJOY ya!! thanku thank u[/quote]

    who asked you to buy it?

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  • tokmoh on Apr 18, 2009 at 8:33 am

    I went to the showroom afternoon tadi n boy was I surprised: is that black strip on the seats alcantara?!?! So cun!! The kinda material used in Brabus n other exclusive cars r also used in Exora makes it sooo kewl!!

    Anyway, to the thickheads: GO. FRIGGIN. TEST. DRIVE. EXORA. It's easy to make assumption of it being underpowered, bt this has been explained many times by si-fu n 460 that it is not that bad. You may say cuz Paul Tan said so, bt bear this in mind: Paul Tan's daily commute is a BMW E39 520i, anything less will feel underpowered. Betul tak, Paul? :P Not to say I totally disregard ur opinion, bt I tend to agree with what Chips Yap said abt expectations of real customers that Proton targets vs enthusiasts that are obsessed with figures.

    Chips Yap hv long been known to be a Proton sceptic, bt I see that his perception on Exora is much more positive. He is of the opinion that power is not the main priority for Exora's target customer based on his observation on one event. He found out real customers ask things like "what comes with the car for the price, how long is the warranty, are spare parts cheap, how long to wait for delivery. And when it came to looking at the car, many would be seated in the back and examine the door handles or feel the leather."

    Takpe takpe, next yr Campro turbo is ready hopefully. Then we can finally bury the hatchet. Settled.

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  • Tengokaje.. on Apr 18, 2009 at 8:43 am

    Yeah 460. Please give some hint regarding what you mentioned about FE and LE.

    So many comments. For those who had lost their confidence with P1, it's up to you guys.. Try to give comments that can make P1 open up their eyes and minds. For those who still loves P1 and Malaysia product, keep on supporting with purchase Malaysia product.

    Salam..

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  • Prismo on Apr 18, 2009 at 8:44 am

    Hey guys, watch this video.. camouflaged test mule unit P2 mpv was spotted..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SD4FXz1x70&fe…

    why it's need test mule unit? the test already done in japan right? or else they tested it's again after reducing the gadgets so they can sell it below RM70k perhaps..

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  • gunther on Apr 18, 2009 at 8:45 am

    disappointed.

    at the end of the day.. buying a car is all about the ownership experience and i have lost faith in proton's product and after-sales. sorry but no more protons.

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  • nice car nice look refer this url.. exora spoty.. wow…. http://paultan.org/topics/proton-mpv-2009/

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  • tokmoh on Apr 18, 2009 at 9:00 am

    [quote comment="231256"][quote comment="231227"]Hey congrats to you guys…I am from singapore and i think Proton has done very well with this new Exora. I wonder when its coming to our country….[/quote]

    At least our friends at S'pore also amaze on Exora, shall arrive in S'pore in a short time, after Manual T/M officially open for booking. TQ Singaporean for having faith on Malaysian products.[/quote]

    Arararara, John Doe Malaysia, u must be a Proton staff, am I rite? In HR dept? lol

    You've spilled the bean ahaha. M/T Exora, coming soon… confirmed.

    See, who said that Proton will die in open market? Well, in Msian open market Proton dia la cuz Msian soooooooooo kiasu. Even SGrean which we all think sooooo kiasu know how to appreciate a good car regardless of origin. We really hv become the very thing we despise: Calling SGreans kiasu, who's the kiasu now?

    Then there's the Japanese. We think they must be thinking our cars are sheez, bt I remember Paul Tan wrote abt the first Satria Neo R3 customer is a Japanese expat who appreciates its uniqueness.

    Then there's the Thais who can get cheap Vios, bt looking at Proton Thailand's counterpart, they've been doing well. Furthermore, the model that helped them a lot turned out to be the most underrated Proton ever.

    Then there's the Indonesians. They're a bunch of Toyota die hard hardcore. I visited Jakarta last January, avanzas n kijang-innovas are absolutely everywhere, MPV seems to be the craze there, especially toyota ones, saloons are bought oni by the rich ppl there. And on the first nite, I saw a Gen2-Persona as they call it there, parked in front of a very high-class shopping mall, n I mean even higher standard than our Pavilion or KLCC. Already, I'm hearing rumors of Indonesian Proton counterpart receiving 40 Exora bookings, despite them only receiving it in July the earliest.

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  • i feel happy and proud, malaysia have a good family car. i hope in the future, everyone will now proton..

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  • Prismo on Apr 18, 2009 at 9:30 am

    [quote comment="231276"][quote comment="231256"][quote comment="231227"]Hey congrats to you guys…I am from singapore and i think Proton has done very well with this new Exora. I wonder when its coming to our country….[/quote]

    At least our friends at S'pore also amaze on Exora, shall arrive in S'pore in a short time, after Manual T/M officially open for booking. TQ Singaporean for having faith on Malaysian products.[/quote]

    Arararara, John Doe Malaysia, u must be a Proton staff, am I rite? In HR dept? lol

    You've spilled the bean ahaha. M/T Exora, coming soon… confirmed.

    See, who said that Proton will die in open market? Well, in Msian open market Proton dia la cuz Msian soooooooooo kiasu. Even SGrean which we all think sooooo kiasu know how to appreciate a good car regardless of origin. We really hv become the very thing we despise: Calling SGreans kiasu, who's the kiasu now?

    Then there's the Japanese. We think they must be thinking our cars are sheez, bt I remember Paul Tan wrote abt the first Satria Neo R3 customer is a Japanese expat who appreciates its uniqueness.

    Then there's the Thais who can get cheap Vios, bt looking at Proton Thailand's counterpart, they've been doing well. Furthermore, the model that helped them a lot turned out to be the most underrated Proton ever.

    Then there's the Indonesians. They're a bunch of Toyota die hard hardcore. I visited Jakarta last January, avanzas n kijang-innovas are absolutely everywhere, MPV seems to be the craze there, especially toyota ones, saloons are bought oni by the rich ppl there. And on the first nite, I saw a Gen2-Persona as they call it there, parked in front of a very high-class shopping mall, n I mean even higher standard than our Pavilion or KLCC. Already, I'm hearing rumors of Indonesian Proton counterpart receiving 40 Exora bookings, despite them only receiving it in July the earliest.[/quote]

    ofcoz la m'sian was the actual kiasu.. :) but for sure, not kiasu m'sian was me, u, TJCC's members and the others Proton's supporters.. long live to all of us..

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  • jeromycyl on Apr 18, 2009 at 9:36 am

    [quote comment="231035"][quote comment="231010"]lol, the key seems to be similar to the wave blade keys of honda.. haha..[/quote]

    You dreaming ? You pernah nampak wave key kah ?[/quote]

    its not exactly the same but well. wit similar function.. like the immobilizer..

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  • Am I? on Apr 18, 2009 at 9:54 am

    [quote comment="231168"]i dont understand why potong still cannot do the best car in our own country, such a heavy car about 1422kg carry by 1.6cc?? i wonder potong designer brain fill with what??

    this potong think we r stupid like them or pakcik n makcik which do not know car, just know how 2 drive from a to b!! it has been almost 20yrs poduce car, still make 3rd world or low class car!! just how lazy and bum they r (just put failure gen2 engine to exora) cannot design and make 1.8 or 2.0 engine meh?? it is so difficult??[/quote]

    wah…u asked is it too difficult? is it too dofficult to install or design 1.8 or 2.0L?if u think its that easy..then go design or built by yourself…for me..slowly la…1st built car with good looking n moderate performance..still can be ppl mover with so so FC.what else u can have with that price with p1 economic of scale yg tak besar cam other carmaker?be realistic la…

    2nd step explore new engines..if all new thing sumbat dlm this new exora for the 1st time, i think u would say..eii…1.8? new engine? reliable ker?then..exora sale wouldnt be so good..if that happen..then what would happen to p1? ppl like u will clapping your hand isnt?

    some of my fren n relative actually shame to buy p1 car..its like u r poor ppl who buy cheap thing only..in their mind would be like..ceh..keta proton jer…dia tu pakai xXx da great…imported car..keta mahal…pakai proton aper class..

    i wonder…when would this kind of mentality would no longer exist??

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  • henryee on Apr 18, 2009 at 9:57 am

    [quote comment="231131"][quote comment="231063"]yaa..very cunn.. i like internal, external but…power???

    with campro cps, same with neo…but that neo weight only 1212 kg, exora 1422…hmm so imagine neo with 3 person..big belly 70kg..

    exora 1.6 campro cps, try you all imagine driver + 2 passenger with average 60 kg/each, so total 1602 kg…How this CPS wanna drag to bukit tinggi genting..hmmmm…

    i think i will wait for perodua mpv…1.5 with weight around 1190 kg…it nearly to satria neo….

    …imagine add 3 person 60kg/each, so total 1370 kg…

    lower than exora curb weight…so if balik kampung add with beg, kuih raya, bla bla…total 1420 kg/gross weight..

    same with exora laa…..

    hm..i think no pr0blem for perodua satey 1.5/vios engine to climb bukit tinggi…

    hmm ada paham..tak paham ignore itt…[/quote]

    Don't simply make assumption wihout any fact and figure..In fact that DSZ as well follow Exora endurance team to Genting just to believe/ feel for himself. No issues whatsoever related to the 1.6 Campro CPS cruise up to the hill like Genting and Bukit Tinggi..fyi for all the no-brain-bashers, 150 Nm at 4500rpm was tested alone at Dyno Test Bench facilities without any modification, means standard CamproCPS operates. For Exora, there was another 5 exclusive parts already change/ improve to increase torque. Have you heard any flywheel, clutch disc, clutch cover, alternator and newly formatted ECU, I didn't expect no-brain-bashers to understand thoroughly about engines. We expected with all new exlusive parts installed on this Exora, it gives Torque up to 205 Nm, that's why you won't have any problem to Genting or even climb Bukit Tujuh during balik kampung trip to Kelantan. Just for another info to no-brain bashers to starts rethink again before publish any misleading comments.[/quote]

    Yaya, after u touch the ECU, ur warranty is automatically VOID~~~!

    Don't even think about it, coz a whole ECU will cost u a BOMB, okay (RM 850-1000), if it gets short-circuit!!!

    Don't do it unless u r a car mechanical foreman!

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  • John Doe Malaysia on Apr 18, 2009 at 9:59 am

    HR guys won't really know about know how technologies, as I'm not one of them. Just hanging around at PT blog clearing all the nonsense from no-brain-bashers. There will be a MT version sooner (shh…). DSZ vision was very clear, to be an automotive player worldwide. Next step, there will be Exora on another country as well, Sporeans, wait for a while…

    Proton currently working on the latest and cutting edge technologies (engine variant, t/m, chassis) to cater and catch big players, just like Dr Wolfgang quotes "Proton need to a leopard (speed, strength, accurate) to fight with big animal like Elephant (big players like Big Three, H, T) to stay survive.

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  • John Doe Malaysia on Apr 18, 2009 at 10:15 am

    [quote comment="231272"]disappointed.

    at the end of the day.. buying a car is all about the ownership experience and i have lost faith in proton's product and after-sales. sorry but no more protons.[/quote]

    Depends, respect your own personal view, Proton need to create their reputation again to get confidence from Malaysians. Learn from the hard way and accept the criticism and bashers, nothing to be ashamed of. That's why DSZ mentioned this failure during Exora launching presentation. Nothing to hide..

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  • OK this is the only Proton product that grabs my attention. Eventho the design is ciplak from here and there but hey it is really a worth buying MPV. At least now Proton know how to price the quality coz before this i think they are quite dumb at this or just play stupid :)

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  • NOZOMI on Apr 18, 2009 at 11:05 am

    [quote comment="231207"]here… i gather this info. for u guys…

    livina 1.8 – 93kw (126ps – 124bhp) – 1280kg = 10.3

    exora – 125bhp – 1422kg = 11

    citra II rondo – 145bhp – 1563kg = 10.7

    stream – 103kw (140ps – 138bhp) – 1385kg = 10

    wish – 110kw (150ps – 147bhp) – 1410kg = 9.5

    *Note: (= power to weight ratio) lowest is better[/quote]

    alo bro have u test drive all the mpv?

    i think people inside this forum mostly drove a proton's car.. tapi tak nak mengaku… my wife production engineer bgtau engine campro cps 1.6 tapi torque 2.0.. lebih kurang perdana dah tu…

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  • CHKoay on Apr 18, 2009 at 11:05 am

    Is it just me or the front end looks kinda familiar… like the previous H Accord?… somehow its looks just feels like being patched up or rojak… but nice touch with d place2 gantung d teh tarik bungkus… i believe its OK… it wont b easy 2 convince us Msians who hav seen more than enough cockups by P1… time will tell if they were really true 2 their word…

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  • Arcane on Apr 18, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    [quote comment="231276"][quote comment="231256"][quote comment="231227"]Hey congrats to you guys…I am from singapore and i think Proton has done very well with this new Exora. I wonder when its coming to our country….[/quote]

    At least our friends at S'pore also amaze on Exora, shall arrive in S'pore in a short time, after Manual T/M officially open for booking. TQ Singaporean for having faith on Malaysian products.[/quote]

    Arararara, John Doe Malaysia, u must be a Proton staff, am I rite? In HR dept? lol

    You've spilled the bean ahaha. M/T Exora, coming soon… confirmed.

    See, who said that Proton will die in open market? Well, in Msian open market Proton dia la cuz Msian soooooooooo kiasu. Even SGrean which we all think sooooo kiasu know how to appreciate a good car regardless of origin. We really hv become the very thing we despise: Calling SGreans kiasu, who's the kiasu now?

    Then there's the Japanese. We think they must be thinking our cars are sheez, bt I remember Paul Tan wrote abt the first Satria Neo R3 customer is a Japanese expat who appreciates its uniqueness.

    Then there's the Thais who can get cheap Vios, bt looking at Proton Thailand's counterpart, they've been doing well. Furthermore, the model that helped them a lot turned out to be the most underrated Proton ever.

    Then there's the Indonesians. They're a bunch of Toyota die hard hardcore. I visited Jakarta last January, avanzas n kijang-innovas are absolutely everywhere, MPV seems to be the craze there, especially toyota ones, saloons are bought oni by the rich ppl there. And on the first nite, I saw a Gen2-Persona as they call it there, parked in front of a very high-class shopping mall, n I mean even higher standard than our Pavilion or KLCC. Already, I'm hearing rumors of Indonesian Proton counterpart receiving 40 Exora bookings, despite them only receiving it in July the earliest.[/quote]

    true..toyota's a big hit there only bcoz indonesians dun have their own national car manufacturer/assembler. although they drive innovas (or kijang) and viosses everywhere, their spec and trim are widely ranged. I dun see the point of m'sians worshipping japanese makes..in indon, the vios is used for taxi for crying out loud.

    In bogor, specifically, in Kota Wisata, my cousins lived in a posh neighbourhood, a few houses from taufik hidayat's, yet i've seen lots of protons in this rich ppl's neighbourhood. Savvy, and Neo..and they are proud of it! They are proud of their protons more than we do. My cousins said that proton are priced quite similar to toyota, and it is a welcoming change from the boring toyotas flooding the congested streets.

    wake up, ppl. proton is not that bad anymore. give them a chance to prove their worth. indonesians loved it, the brits have protonownersclub.uk, and even the thais are buying savvys. i believe jap makes are severely overrated in m'sia. it's the third-class mentalities.

    by da way, tokmoh, the mall u were referring to was the Senayan City, wasn't it? it's not that high-class. hehe

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  • i-love-potong on Apr 18, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    [quote comment="230591"][quote comment="230166"]Yeah right… the only reason people buy this MPV is because the other brands are having their taxes cruelly high. I wonder if this were a fair market, I bet any Proton will bungkus. And Proton is talking about helping their own Malaysians…[/quote]

    As a foreigner, I find it amazing to read malaysians bashing their own brand. Proton may not be prefect but it is your brand man!![/quote]

    This is normal, omar… as you might know already, everywhere in the world there will ALWAYS be stupid people around filled with hatred who only knows to see the negativity of something instead of trying to think positive…

    i mean, it's not like proton just formed a year ago that we can complain, right? it's been decades and they still can't accept it that proton will always be part of malaysia… no matter how much they bash proton, proton will still be there, intact, and improving…. let's just wait until proton really become respectable internationally one day and then they'll know that we could be just as good or better than other car manufacturers, and that other brands also have problems… it's too bad as of now these people really have no sense of trying to accept reality, so they just can't seem to move on…for now i pray for these people to grow up as soon as possible…

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  • i-love-potong on Apr 18, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    [quote comment="230993"][quote comment="230832"][quote comment="230633"][quote comment="230626"]Tu crash test adalah dari Private Crash Test, bukan Official Euro NCAP crash test.

    Pd pandangan saya ni, crash test atas tu m'jadikan Exora ni macam buatan kertas/kertas tebal, sebab bonnetnya dah hancur semuanya, dan A-pillarnya dah hampir kena, tak berapa safety tengok Crash Test tu jer~

    pada siapa2 yg duk tanya proton

    ada buat ke crash test ke tidak

    sila tgk sendiri video kat atas tu

    tengoklah sampai terbeliak bijik mata[/quote]

    looks like some1 never watch crash test video b4[/quote]

    Just spare his/her comment bro… maybe he's dunno what the purpose of "crumple zone".. just ignore thoose bashers…

    pity him/her.. typical m'sian mentality.. :)[/quote]

    The Crash Test 1 is based on 35km/h at it's speed already crash like this

    how about at a higher speed for 80km/h??? U always drive slow like 35km/h meh~

    For the crash test footage at a speed of 56km/h the moving tyre that moved backword to the cockpit already makes a threat to the driver and passenger.

    But still, I must mention for how safe a car it is, if u drive at high speed and bang, u'll sure die. This is what I'm want to emphasize, haiyar~ u guys cannot even accept other people's comment, somemore call " stupid" la, apa lah, apalah. C'mon, u must accept and listen to others people comment, P1 will always be a KAMPUNG CHAMPION it's because u these stupid loyalty supporters even P1 did something wrong and will still accept it,~~~WAIT did I say STUPID, sorry about that.

    BTW, the design of the headlamp isn't that beautiful like DSZ said Japanese design, and the side mirror is just an expansion set from Saga BLM's side mirror.

    PEACE~~~[/quote]

    hahaha… i like your comment, fastcx….

    crash test too low of a speed? lol… i think i need to repeat again for you because maybe u misread that first one… "looks like someone has never seen a crash test before"… do more research, dude…

    so, if independent crash test rating u also cannot accept, probably you need to form your own crash-test-rating-body la, then only you'll be satisfied, ok?

    P1&P2 Basher, if you dont know about something, you better shut up lah and not talk about it, rather than trying to say this and that and actually just making yourself look more stupid… oh wait, did i just say stupid? oops, i'm sorry… i'll take it back…

    and no, if it's a bad product, we'll call it bad… i used to dislike proton for this and that because they WERE bad – bad QC, bad this and bad that… but now? we're not saying the exora is perfect, but looking at it in a positive way, proton is trying hard and so far THEY HAVE IMPROVED a lot… just look at Persona… not much complaints so far, eh? in absolute terms it is true proton might not be as good as some other carmakers out there, but right now we're only talking about relative terms, so please just see it in a positive way this time instead of knowing how to bash everything that proton is doing…

    btw, if you dont know much about something, i think it's better for you to keep quiet and not talk about it, rather than trying to say this and that and actually just embarrassing yourself…

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  • silent.rider on Apr 18, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    first!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • steven on Apr 18, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Improve a lot ~ just between avanza and citra man !! no more add on ….

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  • em….CC too small sure oil consumption some still have many things need to change especially the back part and the inner design

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  • saytar on Apr 18, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    good job Proton!

    very amaze by the work..

    nice car~!

    my first MPV mayb? hehe

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  • mach10 on Apr 18, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    wow quite many high class high taste malaysian people here particularly somebody with mammoth lust. only know how to drive japan and europe and us car but still buzzing about exora. made in malaysia products are all about bad quality thing. what a mentality. actually this mentality rooted on malaysian people mammoth lust on everything. no wonder la so many sex enhancer in the market, from tongkat ali to sky fruit to ginseng. all stress sex booster..no wonder la the news about rape, incest, sex scandal always voted as the most popular, the most view in the online new portals.

    for me exora is just nice in term of price, design and engine. if the builder was said 1.6 cps is enough, who are you to argue. if you are not agree then built your own car. we are not going to genting and cameron higland in daily basis. why so noisy about hiking the hill

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  • Prismo on Apr 18, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    [quote comment="231309"]OK this is the only Proton product that grabs my attention. Eventho the design is ciplak from here and there but hey it is really a worth buying MPV. At least now Proton know how to price the quality coz before this i think they are quite dumb at this or just play stupid :)[/quote]

    Ciplak?? funny dude.. nowaday, it's hard to design a car that dont have a same similarity shape with the other manufacturers vehicles due to all shapes has been used in all other cars. :)

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  • zulkifli on Apr 18, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    cayalah proton,barulah kami bangga di mata dunia.semoga mampu menembusi pasaran dunia

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  • [quote comment="231168"]i dont understand why potong still cannot do the best car in our own country, such a heavy car about 1422kg carry by 1.6cc?? i wonder potong designer brain fill with what??

    this potong think we r stupid like them or pakcik n makcik which do not know car, just know how 2 drive from a to b!! it has been almost 20yrs poduce car, still make 3rd world or low class car!! just how lazy and bum they r (just put failure gen2 engine to exora) cannot design and make 1.8 or 2.0 engine meh?? it is so difficult??[/quote]

    it is difficult… you need to master thermodynamic, fluid mechanics, finite element, strength of material, static, dynamics, vibration, chemistry electronic to get a proper new engine… not yet a powerful engine…

    if u r an engineering background person… u will know that to learn thermodynamic itself needs time…

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  • [quote comment="230803"][quote comment="230133"]"rakyat malaysia inginkan kenderaan yg mmpunyai performance like european cars, styling like japanese cars, dan harga malaysia." -DSZ (during the launching presentation)

    i think this mpv has full fill the requirements.

    btw, i think the front grill has made proton founded their identity:][/quote]

    the front grille is proton's identity? haha i don't know abt that

    anyway i think beneath the skin is either a mitsubishi or toyota frame etc

    there are only a few minor changes on the lights and interior[/quote]

    u r surely the one without knowledge… get some facts man…

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  • for those who like to buy cars with lower price but still want to leave in malaysia, i have very good idea…..

    NO NEED TO LEAVE MALAYSIA, MOVE TO LANGKAWI…. no need bising2 here…

    since u know there has lower price, why compare in the peninsular and sabah sarawak?

    u complain alot… but still pemalas, penakut, hampas!

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  • 195/65/15 wheel circumfrance = 199.33cm

    =0.0019933km

    for auto

    4th=0.712

    final Drive=4.265

    out put=3.293 engine rev per distance of 0.0019933km.

    in rpm form

    3293 rpm = distant of 1 minute equal to 1000×0.001933=1.933km.

    for 1 hour at 3293rpm distance covered——-1.933km x 60minute = 115.98km/hour

    so 3293rpm exora at 115.98kmh

    if 3000rpm= (3000/3293) x 115.98kmh= 105.66km/h

    so at 3000 the exora speed at 106km/h

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  • 195/65/15 wheel circumfrance = 199.33cm

    =0.0019933km

    for auto

    4th=0.712

    final Drive=4.265

    out put=3.293 engine rev per distance of 0.0019933km.

    in rpm form

    3293 rpm = distant of 1 minute equal to 1000×0.001933=1.933km.

    for 1 hour at 3293rpm distance covered——-1.933km x 60minute = 115.98km/hour

    so 3293rpm exora at 115.98kmh

    if 3000rpm= (3000/3293) x 115.98kmh= 105.66km/h

    so at 3000 the exora speed at 106km/h.

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  • aku nak tukar vios…nak pakai mpv ni mantop…tahniah proton

    im really proud with u

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  • tokmoh on Apr 19, 2009 at 12:07 am

    [quote comment="231323"][quote comment="231276"][quote comment="231256"][quote comment="231227"]Hey congrats to you guys…I am from singapore and i think Proton has done very well with this new Exora. I wonder when its coming to our country….[/quote]

    At least our friends at S'pore also amaze on Exora, shall arrive in S'pore in a short time, after Manual T/M officially open for booking. TQ Singaporean for having faith on Malaysian products.[/quote]

    Arararara, John Doe Malaysia, u must be a Proton staff, am I rite? In HR dept? lol

    You've spilled the bean ahaha. M/T Exora, coming soon… confirmed.

    See, who said that Proton will die in open market? Well, in Msian open market Proton dia la cuz Msian soooooooooo kiasu. Even SGrean which we all think sooooo kiasu know how to appreciate a good car regardless of origin. We really hv become the very thing we despise: Calling SGreans kiasu, who's the kiasu now?

    Then there's the Japanese. We think they must be thinking our cars are sheez, bt I remember Paul Tan wrote abt the first Satria Neo R3 customer is a Japanese expat who appreciates its uniqueness.

    Then there's the Thais who can get cheap Vios, bt looking at Proton Thailand's counterpart, they've been doing well. Furthermore, the model that helped them a lot turned out to be the most underrated Proton ever.

    Then there's the Indonesians. They're a bunch of Toyota die hard hardcore. I visited Jakarta last January, avanzas n kijang-innovas are absolutely everywhere, MPV seems to be the craze there, especially toyota ones, saloons are bought oni by the rich ppl there. And on the first nite, I saw a Gen2-Persona as they call it there, parked in front of a very high-class shopping mall, n I mean even higher standard than our Pavilion or KLCC. Already, I'm hearing rumors of Indonesian Proton counterpart receiving 40 Exora bookings, despite them only receiving it in July the earliest.[/quote]

    true..toyota's a big hit there only bcoz indonesians dun have their own national car manufacturer/assembler. although they drive innovas (or kijang) and viosses everywhere, their spec and trim are widely ranged. I dun see the point of m'sians worshipping japanese makes..in indon, the vios is used for taxi for crying out loud.

    In bogor, specifically, in Kota Wisata, my cousins lived in a posh neighbourhood, a few houses from taufik hidayat's, yet i've seen lots of protons in this rich ppl's neighbourhood. Savvy, and Neo..and they are proud of it! They are proud of their protons more than we do. My cousins said that proton are priced quite similar to toyota, and it is a welcoming change from the boring toyotas flooding the congested streets.

    wake up, ppl. proton is not that bad anymore. give them a chance to prove their worth. indonesians loved it, the brits have protonownersclub.uk, and even the thais are buying savvys. i believe jap makes are severely overrated in m'sia. it's the third-class mentalities.

    by da way, tokmoh, the mall u were referring to was the Senayan City, wasn't it? it's not that high-class. hehe[/quote]

    True, all my taxi rides in Jakarta was in the Vios dugong, though in Bandung, there were quite a number of Wira taxis too :) . I remember the first night, was opening the door asking "pak, brapa utk ke mangga dua?" lol. Too used to msian taxi drivers who dun use meter :P , whereas there, they all use meter. Msian govt ought to learn from their govt on how to make sure our taxi drivers are as obedient as them.

    There was a time I arrived at Kelana Jaya Putra station with another fren, it was 3.10pm. A few buses were parked, n all drivers lepakking in their "hut" or w/e u call it. I asked them the next bus to Subang Parade, n the driver was like "tunggu la" in a reluctant lazy kinda way. I was persistent, n the last straw was when that basket said "kalau pukul 4, pukul 4 la dia, tunggu je la." So I went to the taxi cuz waiting for 50min is just ridiculous. The driver demanded RM20. DUA PULUH HINGGIT HUNTUK KE SUBANG JAYA?!?! Bloody bloodsuckers, nasib baik berjaya nego to reduce to RM18. Still ouch.

    I spot quite a few Savvys in my 4 days trip there, although Honda Jazz seems to be the most common hatchback there.

    Btw, Grand Indonesia was the place. Well, I'd thought it's pretty up-class, there were many niche brands that can make girls scream in delight n most importantly, me love the Krispy Kreme hehehe. Krispy Kreme… pas nih!! lol

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  • tokmoh on Apr 19, 2009 at 12:29 am

    Sorry, it wasn't Grand Indonesia, bt the building opposite it, I think it's called Plaza Indonesia, right?

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  • Pert Doherty on Apr 19, 2009 at 2:07 am

    macam kecik je exora ni..

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  • Perotiga on Apr 19, 2009 at 4:37 am

    yuck, taxi rides in Jakarta was in the Vios dugong. soon taxi rides in kl must exora. yeh, malaysia wins at all.

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  • tokmoh on Apr 19, 2009 at 7:27 am

    Thnx Prismo :) Long live TJCC!! Long live Proton!! Long live Exora!! Long live DSZ!!

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  • theking on Apr 19, 2009 at 7:29 am

    FE- fuel efficient!

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  • Arcane on Apr 19, 2009 at 10:01 am

    [quote comment="231467"]Sorry, it wasn't Grand Indonesia, bt the building opposite it, I think it's called Plaza Indonesia, right?[/quote]

    well, the new one is grand indonesia, i tot u were referring to that..hehe. Plaza Indonesia is the old one. The cool-looking one was Senayan City. Anyway, i agree that all of them are somewhat pretty up-class, come to think of it. Since all of them require handbag screening and bomb checks at vehicle under-carriage.

    back to the topic, it is pleasing to know that Dato' Syed Zainal the good man himself has been monitoring Paultan.org for 3 years.

    I take that back..bashers, bombs away. but postitive critism only, pls.

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  • [quote comment="231032"][quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and "Malaysian price".

    Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don't know maths!!

    Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don't even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.

    Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.

    DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his "BMW of Asia" also many were hero-worship him, somemore won "CEO of the Year". Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]

    How about u became CEO of proton. Since u know alot of things. :)[/quote]

    hahaha…. i second ur motion…. just go sign up to become ceo of proton…

    easy to say…. idiot…. only complain2…. let the exora to breath…..

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  • counterions on Apr 19, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    Love listening to the background song in the TVC.

    It weaves in seamlessly n wonderfully with the advertisement.

    Feel rejuvenating when listening to it.

    It's in english both in Malay and English commercial.

    What's the title of the song?

    Do you have the complete version of the song and it's lyrics?

    May you share it, Paul?

    Thank you.

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  • metabalance on Apr 20, 2009 at 12:14 am

    CEO of Proton? Give me a break. This person isn't worth even a toilet cleaner in proton. He'll be the thorn in the proton's flesh. Let him bark from the outside.

    BTW, Tax on luxury vehicles will remain despite the presence or absence of proton. No point discussing it here.

    I am not a proton fan but impressed with the proton's improvement!

    not_ah_beng wrote:

    Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and “Malaysian price”.

    Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don’t know maths!!

    Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don’t even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.

    Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.

    DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his “BMW of Asia” also many were hero-worship him, somemore won “CEO of the Year”. Hehe, what happen now?

    How about u became CEO of proton. Since u know alot of things.

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  • GEN-2 owner on Apr 20, 2009 at 2:05 am

    As a Gen-2 owner I’m proud of Proton. Mmglah ada gak quality problem, tapi biasalah, nothing perfect in this world. Eh, org tak tau ke Vios pun bnyk problem? Mmgla tak tau, pasal toyota supporter tak bising2, their competitor pun tak kecoh2, and Japanese not too stupid to condemn their own brand mcm kat malaysia nih.

    I dont think Toyota will ever have Toyota Wish if not because of Japanese support.

    I dont think Kia will ever have Kia Carens (or Naza Citra) if not because of Korean support.

    And I dont think Proton will ever have Exora if not because of true Malaysians like me.

    And lastly, I think Proton will already have Proton Exora 2.0 if not because of people like not_ah_beng & his think-alike not so malaysian friends

    Cheers!

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  • kusmi on Apr 20, 2009 at 4:34 am

    no more polotong..quality mcm apa!! teruk finishing interior.. enjin bunyi serupa F1, tapi power tak saing dgn 1.6…rm70k? high price for such a quality!! sedar lah polotong fans

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  • suitable for taxi services..ops!

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  • Adzim on Apr 20, 2009 at 4:57 am

    Oh please give Proton a f***ing break! This is an achievement but we're never short of pessimist. Heck even if Proton comes out with a perfect car from European standard, these pessimist will still complain about the door handle (or the shape of it). Perodua does nothing but re-badging, but no one gives a crap, a Perodua car is as Malaysian as a SAAB. A friend of mine dissed Malaysian car but drives a Renault Clio that is a tricycle at corners.

    Yes, politic is ugly when it comes to Proton but I'm very sure as professionals, they would want to imrpove… somehow.

    Applause to Exora.

    To pessimist, Perodua will come up with an MPV, since Toyota just launched a new MPV. Go ogle that one, and be proud of it, its very Malaysian.

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  • all ok but quality? exora quality=proton

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  • Ferdinand Piëch on Apr 20, 2009 at 6:31 am

    we build car better than many manufacturers

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  • danielle on Apr 20, 2009 at 7:31 am

    [quote comment="230865"]u know whats funny about malaysian mentality? i have one friend who argued that avanza is better coz it's "imported". yes, thats his argument. my jaw literally dropped.

    i don't even bother explaining anything to him after that. lol[/quote]

    just tell ur fren, avanza is assembled in seksyen 15, shah alam.. :P

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  • danielle on Apr 20, 2009 at 7:35 am

    [quote comment="231039"]Wah 400 over comment ar? paul do u hv enough hard disk for this?

    Overall d mpv is very attractive to d eyes but i will hold my money 1st

    for few months to see any complains bout it. I still remember p1 history

    with their new design cars with all sorts of problem. Also in the sametime

    can wait for d p2 mpv as another choice.[/quote]

    hard disk? come on…

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  • Open Arms on Apr 20, 2009 at 7:40 am

    Give them a chance lah. Typical malaysian….always put on negative comments to other peoples works…starting with saga, wira, satria, waja, perdana.gen-2..persona…savvy…and now Exora…more than 25 years…mannn….at least Proton are moving…but we still at the same spot…same as 25 years ago….

    what else do malaysian have?even BATA are not malaysian…need to re-branding our attitude lah kot…

    at least appreciate lah…the day & night effort and their hardwork to come up something can be proud as such….to PROTON…congrats…continue your hardwork..move forward…work harder and harder…put on goals to become top asian player…

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  • Prismo on Apr 20, 2009 at 7:43 am

    [quote comment="231815"]suitable for taxi services..ops![/quote]

    yes we know that Vios dugong is suitable for taxi cab in Indonesia…

    [quote comment="231873"]all ok but quality? exora quality=proton[/quote]

    Exora qualiti = Proton.. mestilah.. dah product Proton.. apara.. tapi bukan sembarangan kualiti tau..

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  • Somebody on Apr 20, 2009 at 8:31 am

    [quote comment="231012"]Hahahahahaha………………some still going on about DSZ cock-talking of Msian wanting European quality, Japanese design and "Malaysian price".

    Dey, this idiot still want to insult Malaysian. He think we don't know maths!!

    Without tax, JAPANESE price is the same as MALAYSIAN price (go check Honda City or Civic price in Langkawi) la DSZ. Such a shame you don't even know competitor pricing – or you think your customers so bodoh. Even European price only slightly more pricey for the quality.

    Inilah mentaliti Jaguh Kampung. So pathetic – should get Idris Jusoh or Tony F to replace him. At least those are some Msian boys who know how to run a company.

    DSZ? Just another Mahaleeeeel. I remembered when Mahaleel launch his "BMW of Asia" also many were hero-worship him, somemore won "CEO of the Year". Hehe, what happen now?[/quote]

    Who are you to comment like this? CEO of big company? At least DSZ is a CEO of Proton Holding. But you?

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  • belia malaysia on Apr 20, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    salam..

    1stly..memang proud giler jadi malaysian coz malaysia dah berjaya kuarkan 1 mpv yg bleh dikatakan best…

    banyak pujian nak diberikan..

    tapi sedeh…

    kejayaan dibalas ngan kutukan n kritikan -ve oleh individu2 yg tak paham maksud ekonomi global skang ni…

    bleh plak die kate exora ni krep(sampah)??

    nak harga sampai 50k???

    bro..kalau proton letak harga kete ni rm50k…

    mane nak tanggung gaji2 pekerje proton yg tak dibuang…

    bising kate nak bayar tax yh tggi..

    kemane pergi duit tax yg kite bayar???

    gaji korg gak…

    baik gomen or swasta..

    yanadei..

    tu pon tada tau ka~

    tgk balik comparison yg die tunjuk..

    compare balik ngan harga exora ngan kete2 import yg bleh kate exora dah hampir same standard..

    berbaloi ke tak??

    aiyo0o0…

    back to physic..

    lagi mudah remuk…

    lagi selamat daa…

    coz all energy from impact during the accident transfered to the body..

    not to ur body..

    bygkn kalau exora keras gile sampai tak jadi pape kalau eksiden..

    bdn korang yg hancur..

    seblom kite banyak bicare..kritik..komen yg -ve pasal org laen or kejayaan org lain..

    banyak aspek yg kite kene tgk…

    1. ekonomi global..

    2. fizik…

    3. cmne nak handle company..

    4. pasaran semasa..

    5. demand n supply…

    6. labour cost..

    7. n macam2 lagi la..

    memang proton tak banyak or jarang @ xde lgsung kuarkan enjin turbo..

    give them some time to think and create it..

    sedangkan nak wat enjin cps pon amek mase. ni de kaitan ngan 6 mende yg aku bgtau td…

    huuuh..

    be proud to be malaysian..

    ekonomi dunia truk pon kite leh kuarkan model baru..

    TRUELY MALAYSIAN nye kete…

    bukan ciplak model lain or cbu @ watsoever..

    we create..build n sell here..

    in Malaysia…

    tuk aku..

    memang berbaloi la..

    1 more…support malaysian product..

    sape yg nak harga exora <rm50k..

    wat loan kat bank..

    bukak kilang…

    wat kete sendiri..

    hahaha..

    then tup kilang..

    pikir2 kanla…

    thats all from me..

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  • scottloeb on Apr 20, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    [quote comment="231904"][quote comment="230865"]u know whats funny about malaysian mentality? i have one friend who argued that avanza is better coz it's "imported". yes, thats his argument. my jaw literally dropped.

    i don't even bother explaining anything to him after that. lol[/quote]

    just tell ur fren, avanza is assembled in seksyen 15, shah alam.. :P[/quote]

    no lah, avanza assemble at rawang. Seksyen 15 assemble vios, the press shop also near kilang condom ansell/JVC, gardenia/panasonic.

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  • Jared_EK9 on Apr 20, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    [quote comment="231297"]HR guys won't really know about know how technologies, as I'm not one of them. Just hanging around at PT blog clearing all the nonsense from no-brain-bashers. There will be a MT version sooner (shh…). DSZ vision was very clear, to be an automotive player worldwide. Next step, there will be Exora on another country as well, Sporeans, wait for a while…

    Proton currently working on the latest and cutting edge technologies (engine variant, t/m, chassis) to cater and catch big players, just like Dr Wolfgang quotes "Proton need to a leopard (speed, strength, accurate) to fight with big animal like Elephant (big players like Big Three, H, T) to stay survive.[/quote]

    to be a world player proton shud start with looking at their competitors such as Nissan's grand laguna.. i am satisfied with exora but cant hide my dissapointment with the cheap plasticky interiors. it simply doesnt feel "mewah"" like innova or grand livina. folks @ nissan managed to make better interior panels with plastic but proton stick with the dull and ugly greyish and cheap looking plastic that makes me feel like driving in BLM (I have one). So for now I'll wait and the interior may well be the deciding factor whether my money goes to proton or nissan, but right now i'm inclined to nissan pending test drive of exora.

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  • sorry guys, cannot revealed anything because of p&c things. the only thing that i can said is that it is the project on existing campro cps engine variant for fuel efficient and low induction system (as stated in the press). since dato' already monitoring this website :-), it is better for me to be careful so that not to reveal any info unless it is been revealed earlier by other parties. maybe the goodnews will come sooner than we thought….and one more thing, after u test drive the exora, u must remember that the engine is still new, it means that it still tight. normally, for campro or cps engine, it takes around at least 3000 km to unleash its full potential. but it still consider enough power to haul the mpv. the perception will be different if u compare its power to a sedan. if power to weight ratio is enough to indicate the actual performance, i wonder why there is one person who own neo cps (less than 1000km clock), has a drag with his friend who has civic 1.8fd and mitsu 2.0 gt, he beat them in 0-100 sprint. eventhough according to power to weight ratio favour civic fd and mitsu gt. try to search for the thread in lowyat.net. but i cannot tell u the exact result eventhough proton itself did their own testing with the other mpvs to compare its performance. what exora focus on is in gear acceleration,meaning from 40-80 and 80-120, that is the most important because u need to overtake a car between that speed. so, in that speed, the rpm reading is always above 2500 rpm that cps has the advantage because of of the valve lift. valve timing is more on lower rpm, thats why the initial acceleration for toyotas even if compare to hondas, but, the most important part is all range of rpm, whether the power is linear or not. somebody prefer initial acceleration because it is good for town driving, but it doesnt mean that engine that use valve lift is not good, it just not as fast as the valve timing engine for low rpm, but when the valve lift activated, it will become better compare to valve timing. there also engines come with both technologies but it is expensive to build. the example is toyota valve matic where it come with dual vvti+valve lift. but toyota has advantages because of economic of scale compare to proton. thats why dato' said that it is a good things to merge with perodua so that a lot of things can be shared, and saving the cost but unfortunately, the perodua ceo has a different opinion. but he is entitle to give any opinion that he thinks good for him. nevetheless, proton has its own stategy and technology to counter attack. let us wish and pray that prtn will manage to make a break through in the world market

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  • somebody, i need to remind u proton also subject to tax. if u want to make a comparison, since u love to google, try to search for proton waja langkawi price, by that u know how many tax imposed in our local car….adios

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  • kodeng on Apr 20, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    tahniah..proton MPV yang ditunggu since first MPV coming to malaysia, don't know what model. kan bagus kalau dibagi option 1.6 dan 1.8 jadi ada pilihan untuk mereka yang berkemampuan sikit atau mereka yang nak power. mungkin akan datang ada kot.apa pun tahniah sekali lagi. kalu ada 1.8 punya dah tentu punya saya tolak proton saga lama saya.

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  • aku yg mula menyampa on Apr 20, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    [quote comment="230498"]Congratulations to a China factory for supplying the BCM to Proton ! Congratulations Proton ![/quote]

    even the ipod is from china..nowadays alot of electronics products are from china. what are u trying to say?

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  • Sape2 yang masih kondem mpv ni underpower memang diorang x pernah test drive exora. hehe

    No Test drive = no condemning OK…..

    Exora punya pick-up memang bagus tak caya ada video kat U-tube rakam masa exora testing kat higway. Orang yang rakam tu naik persona, mula2 dia potong exora pastu exora potong balik dan terus memecut. Ia berlaku dalam beberape saat je maknanya exora takde masalah la nak overtaking kenderaan lain.

    Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeeRqKkUnWc&fe…

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  • Chincrazygurl on Apr 21, 2009 at 1:07 am

    Can't wait for this car to be part of my family

    Dad ordered XD

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  • Malaysiaku on Apr 21, 2009 at 1:24 am

    Tahniah proton!!! Exora is better than my expectation.

    Aku rasa orang2 malaysia nie kene blajar semangat patriotik dari orang jepun. Orang jepun punye perangai, dia akan tetap beli barang jepun walaupun dia tahu barang tu kurang kualiti banding brand luar. aku keje kat japanese mnc, paham sangat dh perangai diorg.

    Kalo korang pegi jepun, kereta kat sana bukan cantik mana pun, pelik ada la. jual kat malaysia sure xlaku. tapi diorang tetap beli. so, cintai lah buatan malaysia. give a chance to proton to improve themselves.

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  • engdau (Member) on Apr 21, 2009 at 1:53 am

    Can't imagine with over 540 comments on the issue of Exora and… blah…blah… involving politics la, differences of taxi rides between Indonesia and Mal la, China made or locally sourced parts la…. And then, weight ratio and torque ratio la…. Generally, Exora is good for practicality and versatile. The only drawback is its engine. Well, drive slowly and take sweet time.

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  • Zaff1984 on Apr 21, 2009 at 2:25 am

    Paul, it's time for head-to-head comparison among entry level MPV. It's must be great if you can manage to organize it at Sepang F1 Track with paultan.org team. But who will be our own "The Stig" to perform the task? and you may write it out in your blog. Exclusive.

    The competitor in my opinion will be Exora vs Grand Lavina 1.6 vs Avanza 1.5 vs Rondo 2.0. I know the Rondo is the most powerful engine among others, but it show how far the different between Exora's CPS 1.6 125hp with Kia's 2.0 engine and other brands stand. Power is not everything, handling is also main factor to win competition.

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  • sagaKNIGHT (Member) on Apr 21, 2009 at 3:52 am

    ini komen saya..

    (16hb,Proton Edar showroom Giant Puchong Bandar Puteri)

    Interior:

    (Dashboard)ringkas tapi senang,mudah nak capai button2 radio

    aircond dll,garnish warna silver kat stering kurang cantik bg saya

    mgkin colorlain boleh ubah whole visual(cth,garnish stering mit.lancer baru)

    & variety texture mmg cantik,cermin sisi besar kurang blindspot..

    (Driving position)baik & selesa

    (Passenger)2nd seat mmg selesa,3rd seat ok,saya average orgnya(177cm+- tggi)

    & duduk dgn sorg guys lebih kurang saiz mcm saya,no problem…

    (Amenities)byk compartment,power socket kat blkg ada,bluetooth pickup phone,

    navigator sys lcd dvd player & yg ni nk tanya compatible tak Divx format?

    Paul,any idea?

    Exterior:

    sedap mata memandang bg saya,mgkin klu letak projector headlamp ada sedikit impak for front visual

    saya perasan acuan tail lamp tak kemas especially kat bahagian sisi,ada mcm menggerutu

    something rough.lain2 ok.

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  • Slick line on Apr 21, 2009 at 6:40 am

    Wait N See…mana tau ada keluar 1.8 and executive punya…biasala..dulu wira pun ada SE..waja pun ada….satria pun ada…then keluar Persona lepas Gen-2…might be keluar EXORA SE…hehehehe..best..best…buat speculation ni

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  • [quote comment="231168"]i dont understand why potong still cannot do the best car in our own country, such a heavy car about 1422kg carry by 1.6cc?? i wonder potong designer brain fill with what??

    this potong think we r stupid like them or pakcik n makcik which do not know car, just know how 2 drive from a to b!! it has been almost 20yrs poduce car, still make 3rd world or low class car!! just how lazy and bum they r (just put failure gen2 engine to exora) cannot design and make 1.8 or 2.0 engine meh?? it is so difficult??[/quote]

    hi mr crazy, your due respect, it is not the same engine of old gen2. it seems that u r not up to date. this exora is compete a different sagment, a budget mpv,so proton try their best to offer. if proton only gives big engine, everything is basic, everyone will complain only give basic product. proton done their research, not doing things syok sendiri, and i can assume that u never drive an mpv, sorry if i'm wrong

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  • Jared_EK9 on Apr 21, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    just came back from proton showroom..

    stiill cant get over cheapish and plasticky interior.. proton need to really improve on making plastics look good.. learn from nissan/honda/toyota. I'd pay a few thousands more if the interior is as good as that of innova or GLivina.

    I was in a 2nd row with three others. Had to squeeze a little with three people in the 2nd row but not that cramped. acceleration felt sluggish from standstill. the engine was very noise past 4000rpm and I could hear it being stressed from 2nd row seat.

    first impression is not very good, this 2nd impression as a 2nd row passenger is not very good. Tomorrow I'll be in the driving seat and if still not good, bye bye exora.. Hi Glivina…

    Damn, I still can't get over disappointment at how slow it is proton to learn how to make good, pleasing to the eyes and "luxurious" interior. Color choice is totally off.. Grey is not synonym with luxury or sporty.. where did your interior designer study? Why can't they buy one grand livina and copy the whole interior color and material. I wouldnt mind as long as the end result is good. I feel very very sad ….

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  • i knew gorvenment recently come out with RM5k car scrapping scheme, but it only cover Proton and Perodua, i thought i can use the old car to get extra RM5k deduction when buy Exora, but the sales advisor told me the new car is not included in the scheme??? why? i thought the scheme should be available to all proton model???

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  • silent.rider on Apr 21, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    [quote comment="232490"][quote comment="231168"]i dont understand why potong still cannot do the best car in our own country, such a heavy car about 1422kg carry by 1.6cc?? i wonder potong designer brain fill with what??

    this potong think we r stupid like them or pakcik n makcik which do not know car, just know how 2 drive from a to b!! it has been almost 20yrs poduce car, still make 3rd world or low class car!! just how lazy and bum they r (just put failure gen2 engine to exora) cannot design and make 1.8 or 2.0 engine meh?? it is so difficult??[/quote]

    hi mr crazy, your due respect, it is not the same engine of old gen2. it seems that u r not up to date. this exora is compete a different sagment, a budget mpv,so proton try their best to offer. if proton only gives big engine, everything is basic, everyone will complain only give basic product. proton done their research, not doing things syok sendiri, and i can assume that u never drive an mpv, sorry if i'm wrong[/quote]

    mr. 460, i think you're either being too kind or being too considerate towards mr. crazy…

    i have long ago given up on trying to convince no-brain-bashers like these guys.. they just talk talk talk talk while they actually don't know much about the topic… just like that dude named "P1 & P2 Basher", so frustrating… in some ways, MT is flooded with these kind of people, too…

    until today, i still wonder how dumb a malaysian could get to actually say such unsupported and negative remarks… heck, when someone is not being held responsible for their own words, it's amazing how negative they can go, saying this and that as if they know it all…

    and here we have mr. crazy asking "cannot design and make 1.8 or 2.0 engine meh?? it is so difficult??" – i mean, he is for sure not an engineer because he just doesn't have any idea how much capital it needs to actually develop even a single engine… chrysler, mitsubishi and hyundai even have to combine on their R&D money to develop the GEMA engines together… for a relatively small company like proton, Campro CPS is such an achievement that deserves respect much much more than it has been getting…

    huh, questioning "is it so hard to develop 1.8 or 2.0 engine?" ??? i truly am frustrated with this kind of no-brain-basher attitude… i bet they actually have no idea whatsoever on what they're actually trying to argue about…

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  • EricG on Apr 21, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    460, hows the 2010 waja developing?

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  • Jared_EK9 on Apr 21, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    [quote comment="231207"]here… i gather this info. for u guys…

    livina 1.8 – 93kw (126ps – 124bhp) – 1280kg = 10.3

    exora – 125bhp – 1422kg = 11

    citra II rondo – 145bhp – 1563kg = 10.7

    stream – 103kw (140ps – 138bhp) – 1385kg = 10

    wish – 110kw (150ps – 147bhp) – 1410kg = 9.5

    *Note: (= power to weight ratio) lowest is better[/quote]

    Thanks for the info.. But power to weight ratio is almost useless and is just a PR ploy especially when a people mover is concerned. What we need is torque (daya kilas) to move the mpv around effortlessly.

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  • Jared_EK9 on Apr 21, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    [quote comment="232194"]Tahniah proton!!! Exora is better than my expectation.

    Aku rasa orang2 malaysia nie kene blajar semangat patriotik dari orang jepun. Orang jepun punye perangai, dia akan tetap beli barang jepun walaupun dia tahu barang tu kurang kualiti banding brand luar. aku keje kat japanese mnc, paham sangat dh perangai diorg.

    Kalo korang pegi jepun, kereta kat sana bukan cantik mana pun, pelik ada la. jual kat malaysia sure xlaku. tapi diorang tetap beli. so, cintai lah buatan malaysia. give a chance to proton to improve themselves.[/quote]

    boleh tak kau merepek tempat lain.. aku pun pernah kerja jepeun MNC kilang electronik.. spec europe asia mahupun amerika hampir sama tapi kalau japan model design and appearance confirm much better coz orang jepun memilih kualiti. apa kena mengena dengan patriotik? proton tak pernah pun tanya aku cukup tak duit belanja bulan2.. semua untung bukan datang balik kat aku, masuk kocek vendor parasit diaorang dan juga pemegang saham..

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  • LogicallyMad on Apr 21, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    [quote comment="232552"][quote comment="232194"]Tahniah proton!!! Exora is better than my expectation.

    Aku rasa orang2 malaysia nie kene blajar semangat patriotik dari orang jepun. Orang jepun punye perangai, dia akan tetap beli barang jepun walaupun dia tahu barang tu kurang kualiti banding brand luar. aku keje kat japanese mnc, paham sangat dh perangai diorg.

    Kalo korang pegi jepun, kereta kat sana bukan cantik mana pun, pelik ada la. jual kat malaysia sure xlaku. tapi diorang tetap beli. so, cintai lah buatan malaysia. give a chance to proton to improve themselves.[/quote]

    boleh tak kau merepek tempat lain.. aku pun pernah kerja jepeun MNC kilang electronik.. spec europe asia mahupun amerika hampir sama tapi kalau japan model design and appearance confirm much better coz orang jepun memilih kualiti. apa kena mengena dengan patriotik? proton tak pernah pun tanya aku cukup tak duit belanja bulan2.. semua untung bukan datang balik kat aku, masuk kocek vendor parasit diaorang dan juga pemegang saham..[/quote]

    alah kalau kau keje company lain pun sama je… untung bukan semua datang balik kat ko… tak yah la nak kata proton….

    kalau ko dpt bonus.. itu lah syer ko dari untung tuh… walau pun skrg nih proton tak bagi bonus (walaupun ade skit untung ari tuh)… still ko masih dpt syer untung tuh… buktinye ko masih blum ke buang keje…. proton masih retain pekerja nye walaupun alami kerugian ari tuh and dlm keadaan ekonomi skrg nih… bersyukur la…

    doa2 la MPV nih dah kuar.. ade bonus utk ko… ^.^

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  • Jared_EK9 on Apr 21, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    [quote comment="232560"][quote comment="232552"][quote comment="232194"]Tahniah proton!!! Exora is better than my expectation.

    Aku rasa orang2 malaysia nie kene blajar semangat patriotik dari orang jepun. Orang jepun punye perangai, dia akan tetap beli barang jepun walaupun dia tahu barang tu kurang kualiti banding brand luar. aku keje kat japanese mnc, paham sangat dh perangai diorg.

    Kalo korang pegi jepun, kereta kat sana bukan cantik mana pun, pelik ada la. jual kat malaysia sure xlaku. tapi diorang tetap beli. so, cintai lah buatan malaysia. give a chance to proton to improve themselves.[/quote]

    boleh tak kau merepek tempat lain.. aku pun pernah kerja jepeun MNC kilang electronik.. spec europe asia mahupun amerika hampir sama tapi kalau japan model design and appearance confirm much better coz orang jepun memilih kualiti. apa kena mengena dengan patriotik? proton tak pernah pun tanya aku cukup tak duit belanja bulan2.. semua untung bukan datang balik kat aku, masuk kocek vendor parasit diaorang dan juga pemegang saham..[/quote]

    alah kalau kau keje company lain pun sama je… untung bukan semua datang balik kat ko… tak yah la nak kata proton….

    kalau ko dpt bonus.. itu lah syer ko dari untung tuh… walau pun skrg nih proton tak bagi bonus (walaupun ade skit untung ari tuh)… still ko masih dpt syer untung tuh… buktinye ko masih blum ke buang keje…. proton masih retain pekerja nye walaupun alami kerugian ari tuh and dlm keadaan ekonomi skrg nih… bersyukur la…

    doa2 la MPV nih dah kuar.. ade bonus utk ko… ^.^[/quote]

    ni sekor merepek.. apa kena mengena proton dgn aku… buat karangan biarlah ada atau berkait dengan thesis statement.. pasal tu la buat kereta separuh siap..

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  • [quote comment="232148"][quote comment="230498"]Congratulations to a China factory for supplying the BCM to Proton ! Congratulations Proton ![/quote]

    even the ipod is from china..nowadays alot of electronics products are from china. what are u trying to say?[/quote]

    Tahu pun banyak barangan dari Negeri Cina ! Apa lagi ?

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  • cuba ketuk ketuk kepala tu sikit. Kalau pelabur pelabur asing tak melabur in sini, KITA semua makan apa ? Rantai reaksinya panjang tau tak ?

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  • crazy on Apr 22, 2009 at 2:06 am

    [quote comment="231249"][quote comment="231168"]i dont understand why potong still cannot do the best car in our own country, such a heavy car about 1422kg carry by 1.6cc?? i wonder potong designer brain fill with what??

    this potong think we r stupid like them or pakcik n makcik which do not know car, just know how 2 drive from a to b!! it has been almost 20yrs poduce car, still make 3rd world or low class car!! just how lazy and bum they r (just put failure gen2 engine to exora) cannot design and make 1.8 or 2.0 engine meh?? it is so difficult??[/quote]

    Dear Mr Crazy@ DumbA**@Numb@Retard or whatever…. Deposit your resume to Proton and let's see your capability/ ability to help Proton. I'll personally interview you once your resume receive at HR counter. Everythings gone wrong with Proton based on your empty-headed brain and we most welcome a person like you to fine tune Proton (If your IQ sufficient). Be a good bashers to improve Proton, don't simply story telling without fact; unless you are completely useless.[/quote]

    John Doe Malaysia

    ok, i hv no problem with that, bring ur horse come. but why it is related to job n this comment? comment is comment n job is job. first thing first, dont u learn the 7 effective concept?? r u the designer? if yes sorry to say that. why malaysian culture nv change which always has to related to job with personal thing or relative. same with gov sector!! that is the reason why we r still really under developing country! it has been 30yrs building cars, with alot luxury tax redemption, still nv grow up n nv been share to our poorly citizen?? it is not saying that we nv give them a chance, maybe at begining, i hv been hv very bad experience with potong after sale service. the problem with potong is small small thing quality issue also cannot solve (power window,meter,accessories drop here drop there) then how to solve major issue?? this thing not just happen once but happen repeating. so i really hv no confident with potong anymore. they must do the things right at first! every my comment has fact, evident n true which i been experience!

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  • crazy on Apr 22, 2009 at 2:37 am

    [quote comment="232508"][quote comment="232490"][quote comment="231168"]i dont understand why potong still cannot do the best car in our own country, such a heavy car about 1422kg carry by 1.6cc?? i wonder potong designer brain fill with what??

    this potong think we r stupid like them or pakcik n makcik which do not know car, just know how 2 drive from a to b!! it has been almost 20yrs poduce car, still make 3rd world or low class car!! just how lazy and bum they r (just put failure gen2 engine to exora) cannot design and make 1.8 or 2.0 engine meh?? it is so difficult??[/quote]

    hi mr crazy, your due respect, it is not the same engine of old gen2. it seems that u r not up to date. this exora is compete a different sagment, a budget mpv,so proton try their best to offer. if proton only gives big engine, everything is basic, everyone will complain only give basic product. proton done their research, not doing things syok sendiri, and i can assume that u never drive an mpv, sorry if i'm wrong[/quote]

    mr. 460, i think you're either being too kind or being too considerate towards mr. crazy…

    i have long ago given up on trying to convince no-brain-bashers like these guys.. they just talk talk talk talk while they actually don't know much about the topic… just like that dude named "P1 & P2 Basher", so frustrating… in some ways, MT is flooded with these kind of people, too…

    until today, i still wonder how dumb a malaysian could get to actually say such unsupported and negative remarks… heck, when someone is not being held responsible for their own words, it's amazing how negative they can go, saying this and that as if they know it all…

    and here we have mr. crazy asking "cannot design and make 1.8 or 2.0 engine meh?? it is so difficult??" – i mean, he is for sure not an engineer because he just doesn't have any idea how much capital it needs to actually develop even a single engine… chrysler, mitsubishi and hyundai even have to combine on their R&D money to develop the GEMA engines together… for a relatively small company like proton, Campro CPS is such an achievement that deserves respect much much more than it has been getting…

    huh, questioning "is it so hard to develop 1.8 or 2.0 engine?" ??? i truly am frustrated with this kind of no-brain-basher attitude… i bet they actually have no idea whatsoever on what they're actually trying to argue about…[/quote]

    460 & silent rider

    as i said, everything i comment base on fact, evident n experience n data.

    1) why potong lose biggest market to perodua?

    2) why potong design the higher power to weight ratio?

    here… i gather this info. for u guys…

    livina 1.8 – 93kw (126ps – 124bhp) – 1280kg = 10.3

    exora – 125bhp – 1422kg = 11

    citra II rondo – 145bhp – 1563kg = 10.7

    stream – 103kw (140ps – 138bhp) – 1385kg = 10

    wish – 110kw (150ps – 147bhp) – 1410kg = 9.5

    *Note: (= power to weight ratio) lowest is better

    3) why potong rank lowest in the quality n after sales services?

    4) why most of ppl nv choose p as buying second time car?

    5) why p car has the lowest 2nd value?

    6) why p cannot share their luxury tax redemption to our poor citizen, or invest in the r&d?

    7) why p cannot find patner? (not need patner, their patner is gov)

    potong is not like other player which do not hv tax redemption!! they hv but why they cannot make the best car for us?

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  • [quote comment="232609"][quote comment="232508"][quote comment="232490"][quote comment="231168"]

    460 & silent rider

    as i said, everything i comment base on fact, evident n experience n data.

    1) why potong lose biggest market to perodua?

    2) why potong design the higher power to weight ratio?

    here… i gather this info. for u guys…

    livina 1.8 – 93kw (126ps – 124bhp) – 1280kg = 10.3

    exora – 125bhp – 1422kg = 11

    citra II rondo – 145bhp – 1563kg = 10.7

    stream – 103kw (140ps – 138bhp) – 1385kg = 10

    wish – 110kw (150ps – 147bhp) – 1410kg = 9.5

    *Note: (= power to weight ratio) lowest is better

    3) why potong rank lowest in the quality n after sales services?

    4) why most of ppl nv choose p as buying second time car?

    5) why p car has the lowest 2nd value?

    6) why p cannot share their luxury tax redemption to our poor citizen, or invest in the r&d?

    7) why p cannot find patner? (not need patner, their patner is gov)

    potong is not like other player which do not hv tax redemption!! they hv but why they cannot make the best car for us?[/quote]

    haha… are you nuts or what?

    the bigger the better…. how the hell are you going going to move your weight if u dont have the energy?

    for example, P=E/t, E=energy, t=time… Power to weight ratio: P/m, m=mass…

    if your energy is nearly zero, u cant move… even simple logic cant master… want to talk about cars tech… haish…

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  • initial R on Apr 22, 2009 at 5:36 am

    [quote comment="232609"] 460 & silent rider

    as i said, everything i comment base on fact, evident n experience n data.

    1) why potong lose biggest market to perodua?

    2) why potong design the higher power to weight ratio?

    here… i gather this info. for u guys…

    livina 1.8 – 93kw (126ps – 124bhp) – 1280kg = 10.3

    exora – 125bhp – 1422kg = 11

    citra II rondo – 145bhp – 1563kg = 10.7

    stream – 103kw (140ps – 138bhp) – 1385kg = 10

    wish – 110kw (150ps – 147bhp) – 1410kg = 9.5

    *Note: (= power to weight ratio) lowest is better

    3) why potong rank lowest in the quality n after sales services?

    4) why most of ppl nv choose p as buying second time car?

    5) why p car has the lowest 2nd value?

    6) why p cannot share their luxury tax redemption to our poor citizen, or invest in the r&d?

    7) why p cannot find patner? (not need patner, their patner is gov)

    potong is not like other player which do not hv tax redemption!! they hv but why they cannot make the best car for us?[/quote]

    Ok crazy…let my empty brain answer your question :-

    1. P2 was actually own share by Toyota so all bad thing from P2 are good by T supporters.

    2. 1.6L /125bhp-1422kg= 11. to me ok. Small engine enough pickup.

    MPV is not sport car. I test drive already. Power good, overtake also smooth with enough power.

    3. This are base on old managment yang tak bagi cukup training. Sekarang dah improve. Savvy wife aku ok je diaorang maintain.

    4. Not true, most ppl yang aku kenal dah tukar kereta ngan Proton gak pasal harga, spare part, senang nak maintain. Aku pun beli savvy kat wife aku sebab berbaloi. P/S= beli kenderaan berdasarkan keperluan bukan berdasarkan nak menunjuk-nunjuk.

    5. Kenderaan 2nd value berdasarkan tahun keluaran, keadaan kenderaan, berapa lama dah pakai, & cara penjagaan kenderaan tersebut. Contoh Iswara lama aku tahun 1997 dijual pada tahun 2006 used car berani ambil RM15k sebab keadaan enjin masih bagus & lancar serta cukup power. iswara tu waktu aku beli dalam RM30k. (2nd tuan nak lepas beli Merc).

    6. Nampak sangat tak pernah baca paper & tengok TV. Contoh. rancangan bersamamu TV3, Proton adalah salah satu penyumbang derma untuk membantu orang miskin. Kalau kau nak beli kereta tapi tak nak kerja carik duit aku pun tak nak tolong hang. Pi kerja dulu, kumpul duit, beli kereta.

    7. Bukan tak nak partner, partner nie macam nikah gak. Ada baik buruk, Baik nyer kalau boleh kongsi masalah & selesai bersama serta yang penting Tolong menolong, saling memahami baru boleh maju. Tapi kalau perjanjian berat sebelah tu bukan perjanjian persahabatan, tu perjanjian syaitan. Nak diaorang je betul, kita ikut macam lembu kena cucuk idung. Contoh Perjanjian ngan Mitshu dulu, tu berat sebelah. Diaorang untung, kita rugi pulak dari segala segi, cuma untung spare part je boleh pakai & redesign bentuk sikit dalam dan luar.

    Tu cuma jawapan aku yang otak kosong nie je lah. Aku tak kau plak pendapat kau yang pandai & pendapat orang lain. :) peace

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  • initial R on Apr 22, 2009 at 5:56 am

    Lupa nak tambah no 6. Kalau Proton tak ada R&D, Savvy hingga Exora tak kuar market. Jangan jadi satu lagi yang R&D cuma tukar bumper & rebadge. Yealah… segment kereta kecik. :)

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  • Adzim on Apr 22, 2009 at 6:00 am

    Yes, Honda could provide Speed AND Space, but comes with a price. Yes, Grand Livina can be fast, but WITH a bigger price tag. We want spacious car for Family, NOT for speeding 170kph constant. This is a ludicrous request (considering the price tag, seriously).

    Seriously, merging is for benefit of both. Think logically, if PROTON merge with PERODUA, what technology benefits can they acquire from that Japanese-masked company? Obviously PERODUA do NOT OWN those technologies, and many people ACTUALLY believe TOYOTA will give away their technology to their rival JUST LIKE THAT? I wouldn't, I'm sure Toyota would be more than happy to concur as well.

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  • Adzim on Apr 22, 2009 at 6:12 am

    This is the best question so far;

    "why potong lose biggest market to perodua?"

    My personal opinion would be because PROTON does not take three months to change the front grill and back (No offense to PERODUA Owner) and PERODUA should not be deemed a carmaker, but a car re-seller rather.

    PROTON has identity, and I can't make of PERODUA's identity (what? Providing cheap affordable compact cars?). One day when TOYOTA and PERODUA worn out each others welcome, what will happened to PERODUA is anyone's guess.

    Nautica is another great rebadge example and expensive nevertheless. I HONESTLY thought they are goin to come up with an enhanced version of kembara, NOT a Rush/Terios.

    PROTON is not perfect, but i think they deserves a bit of a credit for improving with every models. Not being bashed for not being perfect (to most people).

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  • zainudin on Apr 22, 2009 at 8:22 am

    TAHNIAH kepada proton kerana berjaya mengeluarkan MPV Exora yang cukup baik melebihi daripada jangkaan awal saya. Saya amat yakin dengan kemampuan proton sekarang terutama selepas saya memiliki persona se. Apa2 pun… yang baik kita ucap tahniah kepada Proton… kalau ada kelemahan… mari kita pakat2 komen supaya proton menambahbaik keluaran MPV akan datang. Insyallah… saya akan beli MPV Exora dalam beberapa bulan akan datang. Saya juga harap supaya proton dapat mengeluarkan Exora Pristage 1.8L atau 2.0L tahun hadapan. Semoga proton mengorak langkah cemerlang di masa depan dalam pengeluaran kenderaan. Amin.

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  • Test drive the exora (H-line) yesterday after reading so many negative points about it. And I thought I should find out the truth. Pack with 5 adult not included myself and I was surprise by the power it had (hmm…1.6cc). I try the gear on “L”, “2?, “3? at up hill….ok, ramp it on straight road at 3500-4000rpm 100km took around 16 secs. Very impressive. In fact, on my way to test drive. I saw someone testing the exora at sungai besi. I was racing with it (my beloved Unser). It is fast, man (only 2 person in it and I was alone and can’t catch up with it. Hah! Just joking, too many cars at that time. How can 1.8cc lose to 1.6cc la).

    Well, I booked one after much persuasion by the young pretty sale girl at the proton showroom. Trade in my 9 years old Toyota Unser for only RM24k. I love my Unser but its time to change a new car after 9 long years. I tried out Avanza 1.3 & 1.5 before, but nothing close to Unser. Innova 2.0cc……I want something less then 2.0cc. Tried out Livina but don’t like it…..don’t know why…don’t have the feel for it.

    Once I get it (end of next month)…I will update u guys..pros & cons…also depend on luck now. Depend on QC guy sleeping or not when checking my exora……… So what the hack, if a few months later, found exora no good. Sell it and buy something else. Cheers!!!

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  • Wan.. on Apr 22, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Test drive the exora (H-line) yesterday after reading so many negative points about it. And I thought I should find out the truth. Pack with 5 adult not included myself and I was surprise by the power it had (hmm…1.6cc). I try the gear on “L”, “2?, “3? at up hill….ok, ramp it on straight road at 3500-4000rpm 100km took around 16 secs. Very impressive. In fact, on my way to test drive. I saw someone testing the exora at sungai besi. I was racing with it (my beloved Unser). It is fast, man (only 2 person in it and I was alone and can’t catch up with it. Hah! Just joking, too many cars at that time. How can 1.8cc lose to 1.6cc la).

    Well, I booked one after much persuasion by the young pretty sale girl at the proton showroom. Trade in my 9 years old Toyota Unser for only RM24k. I love my Unser but its time to change a new car after 9 long years. I tried out Avanza 1.3 & 1.5 before, but nothing close to Unser. Innova 2.0cc……I want something less then 2.0cc. Tried out Livina but don’t like it…..don’t know why…don’t have the feel for it.

    Once I get it (end of next month)…I will update u guys..pros & cons…also depend on luck now. Depend on the QC guy sleeping or not when checking my exora……… So what the hack, if a few months later, found exora no good. Sell it and buy something else. Cheers!!!

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  • slimershine on Apr 22, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    [quote comment="231168"]i dont understand why potong still cannot do the best car in our own country, such a heavy car about 1422kg carry by 1.6cc?? i wonder potong designer brain fill with what??

    this potong think we r stupid like them or pakcik n makcik which do not know car, just know how 2 drive from a to b!! it has been almost 20yrs poduce car, still make 3rd world or low class car!! just how lazy and bum they r (just put failure gen2 engine to exora) cannot design and make 1.8 or 2.0 engine meh?? it is so difficult??[/quote]

    hahahaha!! then you brain fill with what? sh*t? oni know how to condemmm..

    atleast proton can think how to built a car. what do you know? idiota..

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  • Heskey on Apr 22, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Last!

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  • Cross Polo on Apr 22, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    wow… PT record 577 comment. Paling tinggi dalam banyak post. :/

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  • alfist168 on Apr 23, 2009 at 4:11 am

    I think the exora's weight is impressive. The Rondo/Carens have problem in its weight – its weight and insufficient torque leaves it gear-hunting during 90kmh. Hope the exora comes to singapore soon and drive out all the ugly China 7-seaters and the suzuki APV.

    And kudos for the exora chassis being designed for flexible uses, and i seriously think proton should create a commercial vehicles line-up. Being able to cater to Malaysia's industries should be something a national carmaker ought to do, and commercial vehicles will definitely be more effective in filling up the production capacity of Proton vehicles, hence maximising efficiency of the existing Proton factory.

    And a diesel engine should be created by proton as well – and it should be flexible with high-output versions to be used in cars i.e. Perdana, while a low-output one to be used in commercial vehicles. And proton should learn to develop their new components esp. engines & platforms TOGETHER with other carmakers, not BORROW them, since proton have the lotus know-how to develop high-output & efficient engines & good chassis while other carmakers, especially japanese ones, have the knowledge of reliability and cost-efficiency. In this way, Proton can also tap on their money for development, and at the same time, Economies of Scale is achieved, which is what Proton desires. In return, proton can provide their factories to produce these engines, which can be supplied to the partnering carmaker. A suitable partner can be Mitsubishi. I believe Mitsubishi needs a Euro V diesel engine now to compete favourably in europe. Assuming Lotus knows how to design diesel engines, this cooperation should see Mitsubishi not having to rely on VW-sourced diesel engine any longer. So it benefits both parties.

    Proton has a long way to go. A commercial vehicle line-up should help Proton generate profits to build better cars in the future.

    I got 1 question though: Why can't Proton have used its existing Perdana platform to build a new Perdana model? Jaguar launched its previous-generation XK in 1996 using its very old XJS chassis which dates back to the 70s. And it was quite successful.

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  • SYAHMI on Apr 23, 2009 at 6:30 am

    the rear lights quite similar to cherry eastar

    exora quite big than other-under-2litre-mpv

    the engine has more power though

    but also more weight

    hope there will be improved edition

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  • Richard Chu on Apr 23, 2009 at 7:14 am

    Have not tested the car yet. My additional wish list: –

    1) A manual transmission for both level. It is a disturbing trend that auto-makers in Malaysia are pushing auto trans without thinking of the environment and to keep total cost of ownership and operation low. The current petrol/diesiel price will not last long. Apparently we have short memories as the USD140/barrel happened less than a year ago!

    2) The remote control when pushed once only unlocks the driver's door is a good safety feature. Body control features are quite impressive.

    3) Isofix points must be provided.

    4) Traction control should be offered as an optional item.

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  • Jared_EK9 on Apr 23, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Saw the prototype interior of the P2 MPV coming this November at Minggu Saham Amanah Malaysia @ Plaza Angsana yesterday. Impressed with the interior. Gotta wait and buy the MPV. Sorry, I'll pass the exora after carefully considering it. In the end it's my money and I don't give an F what proton bashers and proton supporters as well as proton workers (yes, many of them in this forum) say.

    Sorry Proton, your exora may be a meat to some but it's not enough meat for me. I guess one proton in my family (BLM) is enough experience and lesson. Datuk (yes, you, the CEO of Proton!) If you are reading this, please take steps to improve the quality and fit and finish of the plasticky and cheap interior of exora. It was the deciding factor for me not to buy the exora. The exterior is OK. Ah, lambatnyer November.

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  • [quote comment="232498"]just came back from proton showroom..

    stiill cant get over cheapish and plasticky interior.. proton need to really improve on making plastics look good.. learn from nissan/honda/toyota. I'd pay a few thousands more if the interior is as good as that of innova or GLivina.

    I was in a 2nd row with three others. Had to squeeze a little with three people in the 2nd row but not that cramped. acceleration felt sluggish from standstill. the engine was very noise past 4000rpm and I could hear it being stressed from 2nd row seat.

    first impression is not very good, this 2nd impression as a 2nd row passenger is not very good. Tomorrow I'll be in the driving seat and if still not good, bye bye exora.. Hi Glivina…

    Damn, I still can't get over disappointment at how slow it is proton to learn how to make good, pleasing to the eyes and "luxurious" interior. Color choice is totally off.. Grey is not synonym with luxury or sporty.. where did your interior designer study? Why can't they buy one grand livina and copy the whole interior color and material. I wouldnt mind as long as the end result is good. I feel very very sad ….[/quote]

    dude.. it's a RM70k (OTR w/insurance) 1.6L car.

    You cannot compare it with say a 2.4L Honda Odyssey, that even in Australia (no NAP. no tax BS) costs about RM150-180k OTR w/insurance incl shipping.

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  • silent.rider on Apr 23, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    Jared,

    nobody in this forum would also "give a damn F" about your choice… i mean, you're right.. it's your money and your personal opinion, right? so what's your real intention to even announce it here?

    as long as youre happy with your choice, other people would be happy with their choice, too… well, at least you're better than a no-brain-basher since you did your research carefully… so, congratulations…

    i dont work for proton and i dont like everything about them either… i'm only here to be the positive voice on proton's progress after seeing that they have gone thru some positive progress… if proton sucks, i'll tell them they suck… i just dont wanna hate or bash proton based on their past mistakes… i think we should at least live in the present day and if it's a good progress then they deserve credit for it…

    enjoy your P2 MPV Jared… you've made your mind so im sure you'll love it…

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  • ELGOOG on Apr 23, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    La hebat sungguh Proton Exora ni, ingatkan macamana model ni rupa-rupanya Proton Exora ni mengalahkan semua MPV sekelas dengannya 5 – 0.

    mari pakat-pakat booking cepat!!

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  • Jared_EK9 on Apr 23, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    [quote comment="233126"]Jared,

    nobody in this forum would also "give a damn F" about your choice… i mean, you're right.. it's your money and your personal opinion, right? so what's your real intention to even announce it here?

    as long as youre happy with your choice, other people would be happy with their choice, too… well, at least you're better than a no-brain-basher since you did your research carefully… so, congratulations…

    i dont work for proton and i dont like everything about them either… i'm only here to be the positive voice on proton's progress after seeing that they have gone thru some positive progress… if proton sucks, i'll tell them they suck… i just dont wanna hate or bash proton based on their past mistakes… i think we should at least live in the present day and if it's a good progress then they deserve credit for it…

    enjoy your P2 MPV Jared… you've made your mind so im sure you'll love it…[/quote]

    My intention? well, to tell proton that they lost one potential buyer today. I wish they'd come up with a better interior. If you look at my previous post under this topic, it was to me Exora Achilles heel. Sure I will enjoy my ride be it P2 MPV or GLivina or Exora (only if they'll come up with enhanced interior by November). Or may be I'll strike it rich and by a new Odyssey by then and wonder what all the noises and whatnot they make about this Exora.

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  • LogicallyMad on Apr 23, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    [quote comment="233131"][quote comment="233126"]Jared,

    nobody in this forum would also "give a damn F" about your choice… i mean, you're right.. it's your money and your personal opinion, right? so what's your real intention to even announce it here?

    as long as youre happy with your choice, other people would be happy with their choice, too… well, at least you're better than a no-brain-basher since you did your research carefully… so, congratulations…

    i dont work for proton and i dont like everything about them either… i'm only here to be the positive voice on proton's progress after seeing that they have gone thru some positive progress… if proton sucks, i'll tell them they suck… i just dont wanna hate or bash proton based on their past mistakes… i think we should at least live in the present day and if it's a good progress then they deserve credit for it…

    enjoy your P2 MPV Jared… you've made your mind so im sure you'll love it…[/quote]

    My intention? well, to tell proton that they lost one potential buyer today. I wish they'd come up with a better interior. If you look at my previous post under this topic, it was to me Exora Achilles heel. Sure I will enjoy my ride be it P2 MPV or GLivina or Exora (only if they'll come up with enhanced interior by November). Or may be I'll strike it rich and by a new Odyssey by then and wonder what all the noises and whatnot they make about this Exora.[/quote]

    Good… good luck with your new MPV… as many ppl said… nobody is forcing you to buy a proton… Exore is the to offer you a choice… if you dun like it then go buy something else…. everybody have their own opinion…

    btw for me… for the price offered, the equipment level, the exterior, and the interior are all ok and fair….

    ouh ya… if i'm not mistaken i read somewhere that the one shown at MSAM was a clay model… no wonder they look good and very good finishing… but for the asking price of 55k – 69k… i doubt the finishing or the equipment level will be close to that… ^.^

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  • crazy on Apr 23, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    [quote comment="232893"][quote comment="231168"]i dont understand why potong still cannot do the best car in our own country, such a heavy car about 1422kg carry by 1.6cc?? i wonder potong designer brain fill with what??

    this potong think we r stupid like them or pakcik n makcik which do not know car, just know how 2 drive from a to b!! it has been almost 20yrs poduce car, still make 3rd world or low class car!! just how lazy and bum they r (just put failure gen2 engine to exora) cannot design and make 1.8 or 2.0 engine meh?? it is so difficult??[/quote]

    hahahaha!! then you brain fill with what? sh*t? oni know how to condemmm..

    atleast proton can think how to built a car. what do you know? idiota..[/quote]

    slimershine

    yeah they only how to build a car but not a good quality n reliability car. i really thing, some of u got some sense of humour, ha ha ha…

    anyhow, not just me wont 1 2 use potong, but ill tell the whole world. this is way to improve potong poor quality n performance. maybe the car is so so but is the ppl work there are ???….just my thought…anyhow customer is always right….good luck potong….

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  • Jared_EK9 on Apr 23, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    [quote comment="233

    156"]

    ouh ya… if i'm not mistaken i read somewhere that the one shown at MSAM was a clay model… no wonder they look good and very good finishing… but for the asking price of 55k – 69k… i doubt the finishing or the equipment level will be close to that… ^.^[/quote]

    The one shown at MSAM is not a clay model, but the real interior and meter clusters of the P2MPV
    http://paultan.org/archives/2009/04/20/perodua-mp…
    Anyway, if the real one is not as expected I can always buy the Grand Livina which is my first choice pending exora and now pending P2MPV.

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  • Skippy on Apr 23, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    [quote comment="233171"][quote comment="232893"][quote comment="231168"]i dont understand why potong still cannot do the best car in our own country, such a heavy car about 1422kg carry by 1.6cc?? i wonder potong designer brain fill with what??

    this potong think we r stupid like them or pakcik n makcik which do not know car, just know how 2 drive from a to b!! it has been almost 20yrs poduce car, still make 3rd world or low class car!! just how lazy and bum they r (just put failure gen2 engine to exora) cannot design and make 1.8 or 2.0 engine meh?? it is so difficult??[/quote]

    hahahaha!! then you brain fill with what? sh*t? oni know how to condemmm..

    atleast proton can think how to built a car. what do you know? idiota..[/quote]

    slimershine

    yeah they only how to build a car but not a good quality n reliability car. i really thing, some of u got some sense of humour, ha ha ha…

    anyhow, not just me wont 1 2 use potong, but ill tell the whole world. this is way to improve potong poor quality n performance. maybe the car is so so but is the ppl work there are ???….just my thought…anyhow customer is always right….good luck potong….[/quote]

    well proton latest model i think i good quality and reliable…. where have you been???

    BTW if u dun even want to use it, why badmouthing about it?? That is not the way to improve proton… blind bashing and factless comment like ur comment above….

    ouh 1 more thing… "customer always right" only apply when the customer always on the right mind and judge thing as they should be judge… not demanding nearly impossible things… it's like u pay peanut u get peanut.. and you should judge the peanut as a peanut and not as an apple or even a melon… got it??

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  • Hi guys,

    Got a question regarding about the auto gated shifter gear. As I recall for auto gear at "D" position (the old days), once u let go the brake it will start to move forward. But for exore (test drive the other day) it didn't move until I step on the gas. Can anyone enlighten me on this?? Thanks in advance…. :P

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  • Syed Zainal on Apr 24, 2009 at 2:52 am

    Dear all,

    I really hv to clarify this:one thing that PROTON is not, it is not a POTONG

    Just like you, i am blessed with a loving family. We take the best care possible to ensure that the safety of our customers, which includes my family, are in good hands via the integration of active and passive safety systems in our products. That is the reason we crashed 32 exora prototypes; in fact, we added a new crash test into the test series, the roll-over test that is applicable by the US FMVSS regulation n we exceeded the requirements by more than 75%. We put much effort in our ride n handling so that in an extreme driving situation, our customers can take full control of their cars.

    Jared EK9, i believe proton has gone a long-way from the first time we launched our own cars both in terms of quality and interior look. For the first time, we included on the Exora a 2-tone textured IP in line with the latest automotive trends. I humbly agreed that we still have room to improve in these areas, i believe we are heading in the right direction.

    Mr Richard Chu, our transmission manual offering is in the pipeline. For the time being, based on market research we saw the need to launch the auto variants first but rest assured the manual variant will be offered soon.

    Thanks,

    Syed Zainal

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  • simonking on Apr 24, 2009 at 9:00 am

    i think this is the most Great Car . . . the first useful MPV in malaysia ~

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  • kejang on Apr 24, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    I'm not a proton fan. I never own a proton bcoz of the silly QC such as the power window problem, poor w/manship and as people quote 'biasalah proton'. that's why I own a T brand.

    However I have to admit, Exora is the way forward for Proton like Myvi had done for P2.

    My piece iof advice. It's hard to satisfy everyone..the best way is to proof them wrong. No point to argue but I think Proton will love to have constructive comment from Malaysian.

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  • bolabola api on Apr 24, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Final Liga malaysia

    KELANTAN vs SELANGOR.. 3-2 ?

    let bring our mpv to bukit jalil, so can showoff..hehe

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  • Jared_EK9 on Apr 24, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Are you Syed Zainal the Datuk?
    If so, thanks for listening. It does show that you are not there sitting pretty and wait for things to happen. My respect there.
    Like I said, I do have faith in Proton (well, I own a BLM) but the interior of the Exora dissapoints me. I wish I could place a booking for one but as at now I'm sorry to say I just can't. Interior color and design may be nothing to everybody, but it is of great importance to me.
    I do hope Proton will come up with a Deluxe variant of the exora and I don't really mind paying 10K extra for that extra look and feel.

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  • ahmad zahirani on Apr 24, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    Selamat sejahtera,

    Saya bercadang untuk membeli sebuah MPV untuk kegunaan keluarga saya. Pada 22 April 2009, jam 1 tengah hari saya bersama beberapa rakan telah mengunjungi wakil jualan proton CAWANGAN KULIM showroom utk melihat dengan lebih dekat MPV pertama keluaran Negara kita (EXORA). Kami amat terpegun dan berbangga melihat hasil dan mutu produk MPV Malaysia.

    Di lokasi showroom tersebut, mempunyai dua spesifikasi Exora, M-line dan H-line. Kami hanya dibenarkan meninjau model M-Line sahaja manakala model H-Line dikunci, jika nak lihat jugak kami terpaksa terintai-intai dari luar untuk melihat keadaan dalam kereta tersebut.

    Saya melihat seorang staff peroton (wanita melayu) berada di kaunter pertanyaan, lalu menuju ke kaunter tersebut memohon untuk melihat dgn lebih dekat lagi model H-Line tersebut. Beliau menyatakan kunci tersebut di pegang oleh salah seorang sales man yg keluar makan pada waktu itu. Saya bertanyakan apakah perbezaan model M-Line berbanding model H-Line. Beliau menyatakan hanya perbezaan accessory sahaja. Tiba-tiba beliau (wanita melayu) dgn nada suara yg tinggi menyatakan bahawa “ ENCIK MAI SINI BUKAN MAMPU NAK BELI KERETA PUN CUMA MAI SINI NAK KETUK2 DAN NAK KONDEM KERETA MALAYSIA, LEPAS TU GELAK2 SAYA MARAH TAU DAK” saya tekejut dan tergamam dengan statement wanita itu, didalam showroom tersebuat ada ramai org, kenapa dia marah kat saya sedangkan bukan saya yg mengetuk2 kereta tersebut, malah saya meninjau sekeliling kereta itu tidak terdapat kesan dented atau calar dari kesan ketukkan. Saya masih bingung dan tergamam memikirkan adakah saya telah membuat kesalahan dengan meminta untuk melihat model H-Line tersebut. Saya nyatakan kepada wanita itu, selalunya jika mana2 syarikat lain mereka akan mempamirkan model yg terbaik untuk dilihat oleh pengunjung. Dengan rasa kesal serta kecewa saya beredar keluar dari showroom tersebut. Tetapi sewaktu saya dalam perjalanan keluar wanita tersebut mengatakan “ KALU MAI TEMPAT ORANG BUAT LAH CARA MAI TEMPAT ORANG BUKAN NYA NAK MEMANDAI SENDIRI” Kali ini saya tidak dapat bersabar lagi malah saya juga rasa tercabar dengan 2 kenyataan yg telah dilemparkan kepada saya. Saya kembali ke kaunter tersebut dan bertanyakan nama wanita tersebut. Denagan nada yg tinggi dia mempersoalkan “KENAPA NAK TAU NAMA DIA”? Saya nyatakan sebab saya rasa tercabar dan saya nak buat complain pasal kejadian ini, tetapi dia enggan memberikan nama beliau malah beliau menyatakan kalau nak complain manager dia ada, pergilah complain kat manager.

    Saya pun menujuk kebilik manager tersebut sambil diekori wanita tersebut. Saya menyatakan permasalahan yg berlaku di luar tadi, saya juga menyatakan saya amat tercabar dengan statement yg dinyatakan oleh staff beliau. Manager tersebut mengakui bahawa dia tidak bersetuju dengan cara yg telah dibuat oleh stafnya. Beliau memohan maaf diatas kesalahan yg dilakukan oleh stafnya. Saya juga bertanyakan mengapa model H-Line itu dikunci, beliau menyatakan bahawa kereta tersebut telah dijual kepada pembeli. Beliau menyatakan dia mendapat arahan dari pihak atasan untuk menjual PROTON EXZORA secepat yg mungkin supaya berada dijalan raya. Saya menyatakan pandangan sebagai seorang pelanggan dimana beliau tidak sepatutnya mengutamakan seorang pelanggan serta mengabaikan pelanggan yg lain kerana bila kereta model H-Line itu dijual pengunjung yg seterusnya seperti saya tidak dapat melihat dengan lebih dekat model H-Line. Saya mecadangkan beliau memohon kepada kilang untuk membuat penghantaran yg lebih supaya pengujung serta pembeli mendapat layanan yg sama. Beliau menyatakan dia telah memaklumkan perkara ini tetapi sampai sekarang masih belum Berjaya. Saya faham dengan keadaan sekarang tetapi beliau mesti mengutamakan semua pelanggan bukannya hanya mengutamakan satu pelanggan sahaja. Saya juga menyatakan ingin membuat complain tetapi beliau memohon supaya saya membatalkan niat tersebut. Beliau menawarkan kepada saya untuk membuat test drive sebagai tanda memohon maaf atas kesulitan yg di alami. Beliau juga meminta staffnya memohon maaf kepada saya. Tiba-tiba stafnya menyatakan “ SAYA DAH BERURUSAN DENGAN BERIBU ORANG COUSTOMER , SEMUA MEREKA MELAYAN SAYA DENGAN BAIK, TETAPI ENCIK NI KURANG AJAR”. Saya yg pada mulanya sudah cool down kembali tercabar dengan statement yg dinyatakan itu. Untuk mengelakkan sesuatu yg tidak elok berlaku. Saya bangkit sambil mengucapkan terima kasih diatas layanan yg terbaik diberikan showroom Proton dan menyatakan kepada manager tersebut bahawa saya adalah pelangan yg KURANG AJAR tak mengapalah. Degan rasa kecewa serta marah saya beredar dari situ. Kebanggaan dan kegairahan kepada PROTON EXZORA juga tergugat disebabkan layanan buruk yg diterima. Baru nak beli dah layan mcm ni, kalu dah beli bagaimana rasanya layanan yg bakal diterima?

    Persoalan dan kemuskilan kepada i-Care:

    1) Patutkah staff proton memandang rendah kepada pelangganya?

    2) Adakah Proton hanya memberikan layanan kepada pelanggan yg terpilih sahaja? Pengalaman saya ke Show room Toyota, Honda dan Nissan, saya diberikan layanan yg baik serta diberikan test drive walaupun saya tidak meminta untuk membuat test drive. Adakah saya dilihat dari sudut yg berbeza oleh PROTON?

    3) Benarkah PIHAK PROTON MENGARAHKAN WAKIL JUALAN PROTON UNTUK MENJUAL PROTON EXZORA YANG BERADA DI SHOWROOM SECEPAT YG MUNGKIN TAMPA MENGAMBIL KIRA PELANGGAN YG LAIN? PROTON HANYA MENGUTAMAKAN PELANGGAN YG MEMBAYAR DUIT DAHULU SAHAJA?

    4) Dari kisah diatas inikah cara yg diamalkan proton sebagai coustomer oriented?

    5) Di Proton pelanggan patut melayan staff atau staff patut melayan pelanggan?

    Diharap saya akan dapat penjelasan dari pihak PROTON and I-Care. Jika pihak PROTON memerlukan saksi bolehlah berhubung dengan mana2 nama yg terdapat didalam copy list (cc list) kerana mereka semua berada di showroom pada masa tersebut. Sekian.

    Sekian.

    Terima Kasih

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  • [quote comment="233462"]Selamat sejahtera,

    …..

    Sekian.

    Terima Kasih[/quote]

    —–

    U must understand one thing.. sometimes…women god bad mood because PMS.very very very sensitive and emotional.. maybe u still bachelor.. anyway… good comment.. that's mean, the salesperson should treat all customer as a "King"..

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  • FlamingO on Apr 24, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    [quote comment="233462"]

    …[/quote]

    Hmm.. if i'm in your position, i feel angry too… but ..

    u must understand… everyday…hundred customer comes to Proton Showroom.. and also ketuk here and here.. even our Prime minister also ketuk the exora during launching ceremony..i watch it in the TV u know..

    Yeah, Prof is true.. women are too sensitive and emotional during their PMS, so get ready to be scold hehe…

    I think, Proton cannot send extra model to the showroom since now they want to satisfy the customer who book it early..

    Anyway… you write too long comment..hehe.. i know who u are actually.. just a graduated master student..hehe..

    Btw, try another proton showroom..maybe you can meet what u want.. I already test drive this exora, i am waiting for manual transmission with new facelift.. :)

    i write because i want to write, nobody pay me.. ok adios..

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  • Jared_EK9 on Apr 24, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    ahmad zahirani,

    My mom have always told me never hurt a woman, but if I were in your shoes, I would make an exception and punch her right on the face!

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  • upinipin on Apr 24, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    Agree the SA shouldn't treat a walk in customer like that, it's rude.

    Tp mungkin betul unit tu dah ada pemiliknya, jadi tak dapat dibiarkan orang ramai godek2 kereta tu lagi. Kalau saya pemiliknya, saya pun tak mahu kereta saya tu jadi bahan pameran dan dipegang banyak tangan.

    SA tu pun explainlah elok2… hmmm.

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  • upinipin on Apr 24, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    [quote comment="233478"]Agree the SA shouldn't treat a walk in customer like that, it's rude.

    Tp mungkin betul unit tu dah ada pemiliknya, jadi tak dapat dibiarkan orang ramai godek2 kereta tu lagi. Kalau saya pemiliknya, saya pun tak mahu kereta saya tu jadi bahan pameran dan dipegang banyak tangan.

    SA tu pun explainlah elok2… hmmm.[/quote]

    I booked my exora already, black color. But there are one gaia blue unit at the showroom. The SA said, kalau encik nak gaia blue, this unit encik punya…

    I've seen how people ketuk2 and hauled the car. No way i'll take that one, I'd rathet wait!

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  • crazy on Apr 24, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    it was really kesian to ahmad zahirani after heard the news. as i said before, i also encounter this problems before. the good things, at least ahmad zahirani raise his concerns but not just keep quite. a few years back, my wif plan to replace her old saga which made from 1992 back. i hv 2 admit that the old saga is really still in gd condition, gd fuel comsuption, powerful although 1.3, gd pick up, cheap to maintan, but unfortunately the body keep on rusting like pimple. she has been change the body panel and repaint back few time and finally she give up since the car will eventually cause her spent more in future with same problems. so buying list is whether gen2, vios, city, accent. so one day after work we drove her saga n visit potong sales shop near motorola location, then we walk in to view the car half an hour, not even 1 salesman or women come to serve us! we r the only customer at that time, we saw all the sales ppl there just sitting there lepak, read newspapers, do their own works, chitchating like they r the big boss who open the shop there!! nevermind with that, so we just view ourselve, take the vourcher, price list ourselve, my wif is attract with the gen2 1.3 price list. but at that time the gen2 1.3 is still equiped with casset player, no power window at the rear sit??!! so she very disappointed with the service n product n remove out gen2 from her buying list. what she if let say she buy this car, what type service will she get during delivery, service?? so finally she choose vios which it is totally diff world. not to said although we pay less then we'll get less better services or pay more get better services, but seem like we pay less get really far bad n like 4th world country service and product. although we know it is our so called national car (but now most of our car like t & h also locally made, also can call national car lah) has been exempted from tax from gov, but it seem does not benifit to our own ppl malaysians. it is really bad to say that there treat us like slave!! maybe it is not their fault since our car price is on of the highest in the world. in the past i also own a wira which repair power window more than 5 times, meter cannot function, lether stering n gear knob wear off, door side panel pocket drop off, bumper front and back discoloration, service hv to wait from early morning 7am to eveining 5pm. actually my wira car condition still very gd other than above mention problems. but i really cant stand all small thing defects. how can they handle big defect even small thing defect cannot be solve?? dont say again that we pay less to get less gd service and product. as a national car should benefit us rather give us suffer. we r not try to ban to buy our own product, but we also try to buy it with satisfy manner, in peace. the worst case is from ahmad's case, the sales ppl not even admit it is her wrong doing.

    i do hope proton and our CEO can accept this comment positively and improve their way of working and culture. same like our gov, hire a auditor to monitor their sales ppl not just the sales figure but their attitute n service in term of KPI, review all the product made see how to improve further and meet current market demand, not continue making absolute product, make same product quality level for locally and export market, dont abuse local market. we can follow jap working culture and some of thier product.

    i also do hope proton can come to a level which can compete with other player like koreans and jap.

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  • Adzim on Apr 24, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    [quote comment="233408"]I'm not a proton fan. I never own a proton bcoz of the silly QC such as the power window problem, poor w/manship and as people quote 'biasalah proton'. that's why I own a T brand.

    However I have to admit, Exora is the way forward for Proton like Myvi had done for P2.

    My piece iof advice. It's hard to satisfy everyone..the best way is to proof them wrong. No point to argue but I think Proton will love to have constructive comment from Malaysian.[/quote]

    You mean what TOYOTA had done for P2? =)

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  • malado on Apr 24, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    mungkin exora hebat sangat kot sampai girl tu perasan macam kereta merc showroom….aku pi kat porche nye showroom girl tu siap layan je…hemmm…

    tara sombong….walau aku tak mampu..hehehkkk

    ala proton jeeee..bukan stream……

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  • ahmad zahirani on Apr 24, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    [quote comment="233473"][quote comment="233462"]

    …[/quote]

    H..[/quote]

    Hmm, may i know who are u? seems like u know me but i don't recall any FlamingO as my friends.. hehe sorry.

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  • farghmee on Apr 24, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    [quote comment="233462"]Selamat sejahtera,

    Sekian.

    Terima Kasih[/quote]

    kalau benar spt yg tertulis,

    sedih gak dgr cte Bro.

    kalau aku, mmg siapla salesgirl tu.

    aku xbuat apa yg ko tuduh, lg nk sound2?

    nasib baik dlm forum ni ada DSZ sendiri.

    sekurang2nye dia ble tau situasi kt showroom.

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  • Skippy on Apr 24, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    [quote comment="233462"]

    …………………….

    ………………. [/quote]

    is that a true story??? WOW i'm suprised!!!

    there must be something that triggered her anger don't you all think so? Looks like sumthing is missing from the story… Not that i'm doubting you… but it's nearly weird for ppl to get angry suddenly n without reason.. there must something triggering it…

    probably she mistaken you for someone else… probably one of your friend did ketuk2 the car n laughing… no wonder she's angry and since u with them u become the victim….

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  • ahmad zahirani on Apr 24, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    [quote comment="233547"][quote comment="233462"]

    …………………….

    ………………. [/quote]

    is that a true story??? WOW i'm suprised!!!

    there must be something that triggered her anger don't you all think so? Looks like sumthing is missing from the story… Not that i'm doubting you… but it's nearly weird for ppl to get angry suddenly n without reason.. there must something triggering it…

    probably she mistaken you for someone else… probably one of your friend did ketuk2 the car n laughing… no wonder she's angry and since u with them u become the victim….[/quote]

    yes i think she mistakenly me with someone else. you can say i`m the wrong person at the wrong place and at the wrong time :)

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  • muryadi on Apr 25, 2009 at 12:34 am

    [quote comment="233551"][quote comment="233547"][quote comment="233462"]

    …………………….

    ………………. [/quote]

    ….[/quote]

    yes i think she mistakenly me with someone else. you can say i`m the wrong person at the wrong place and at the wrong time :)[/quote]

    Saya pun rasa tak adil lah juga kpd org yg tak melihat perkara yg sebenarnya berlaku utk menghakimi SA tersebut, termasuklah diri saya.

    Kadang2 terasa simpati juga terhadap SA proton ni dgn kerenah pelanggan2 yg kurang beradab. Kalau nak survey kereta tu biarlah berpada janganlah pula jadi macam engineer RND pulak. Ketuk2 sana dan calar2kan dash board dan sebagainya, pergilah survey kereta2 dgn baik.

    Saya pun juga bersimpati kepada sdr Ahmad Zahirini, harap2 janganlah disebabkan pengalaman pahit tersebut membuat sdr terus menerus menjauhi Proton.

    Saya pun bukan wakil/pekerja proton, cuma tumpang simpati..

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  • Tengokaje.. on Apr 25, 2009 at 12:57 am

    That's not the way to treat a customer eventhough having problem. Whether they want to buy it or not, the money if in their hands. Pity Ahmad Zahirani. You can go to another showroom to look for the H Line model.

    Salam..

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  • Skippy on Apr 25, 2009 at 1:16 am

    [quote comment="233572"]That's not the way to treat a customer eventhough having problem. Whether they want to buy it or not, the money if in their hands. Pity Ahmad Zahirani. You can go to another showroom to look for the H Line model.

    Salam..[/quote]

    i agree, that's is not they way to treat customer… but being a human we must understand… we cannot escape from mistakes… there is a limit to patient… it's just as ahmad zahirani said, he's the wrong person at the wrong place and at the wrong time (at the peak of the SA patient..)

    i'm sure the SA was lectured or warned by her manager after the incident…

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  • bUnga_Asmara on Apr 25, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    saya dah book!blue haze u..cun!!

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  • alfist168 on Apr 25, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    [quote comment="233487"]it was really kesian to ahmad zahirani after heard the news. as i said before, i also encounter this problems before. the good things, at least ahmad zahirani raise his concerns but not just keep quite. a few years back, my wif plan to replace her old saga which made from 1992 back. i hv 2 admit that the old saga is really still in gd condition, gd fuel comsuption, powerful although 1.3, gd pick up, cheap to maintan, but unfortunately the body keep on rusting like pimple. she has been change the body panel and repaint back few time and finally she give up since the car will eventually cause her spent more in future with same problems. so buying list is whether gen2, vios, city, accent. so one day after work we drove her saga n visit potong sales shop near motorola location, then we walk in to view the car half an hour, not even 1 salesman or women come to serve us! we r the only customer at that time, we saw all the sales ppl there just sitting there lepak, read newspapers, do their own works, chitchating like they r the big boss who open the shop there!! nevermind with that, so we just view ourselve, take the vourcher, price list ourselve, my wif is attract with the gen2 1.3 price list. but at that time the gen2 1.3 is still equiped with casset player, no power window at the rear sit??!! so she very disappointed with the service n product n remove out gen2 from her buying list. what she if let say she buy this car, what type service will she get during delivery, service?? so finally she choose vios which it is totally diff world. not to said although we pay less then we'll get less better services or pay more get better services, but seem like we pay less get really far bad n like 4th world country service and product. although we know it is our so called national car (but now most of our car like t & h also locally made, also can call national car lah) has been exempted from tax from gov, but it seem does not benifit to our own ppl malaysians. it is really bad to say that there treat us like slave!! maybe it is not their fault since our car price is on of the highest in the world. in the past i also own a wira which repair power window more than 5 times, meter cannot function, lether stering n gear knob wear off, door side panel pocket drop off, bumper front and back discoloration, service hv to wait from early morning 7am to eveining 5pm. actually my wira car condition still very gd other than above mention problems. but i really cant stand all small thing defects. how can they handle big defect even small thing defect cannot be solve?? dont say again that we pay less to get less gd service and product. as a national car should benefit us rather give us suffer. we r not try to ban to buy our own product, but we also try to buy it with satisfy manner, in peace. the worst case is from ahmad's case, the sales ppl not even admit it is her wrong doing.

    i do hope proton and our CEO can accept this comment positively and improve their way of working and culture. same like our gov, hire a auditor to monitor their sales ppl not just the sales figure but their attitute n service in term of KPI, review all the product made see how to improve further and meet current market demand, not continue making absolute product, make same product quality level for locally and export market, dont abuse local market. we can follow jap working culture and some of thier product.

    i also do hope proton can come to a level which can compete with other player like koreans and jap.[/quote]

    i agree with crazy. Don't insulate yourself from the outside competition, Proton. Toyota sent its engineers to California before they came up with the Lexus in 1989. If there's no inspiration for Proton, especially in interior design, it is going to remain status quo. I hope these efforts are sustained in the new Perdana.

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  • alfist168 on Apr 25, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    [quote comment="233487"]it was really kesian to ahmad zahirani after heard the news. as i said before, i also encounter this problems before. the good things, at least ahmad zahirani raise his concerns but not just keep quite. a few years back, my wif plan to replace her old saga which made from 1992 back. i hv 2 admit that the old saga is really still in gd condition, gd fuel comsuption, powerful although 1.3, gd pick up, cheap to maintan, but unfortunately the body keep on rusting like pimple. she has been change the body panel and repaint back few time and finally she give up since the car will eventually cause her spent more in future with same problems. so buying list is whether gen2, vios, city, accent. so one day after work we drove her saga n visit potong sales shop near motorola location, then we walk in to view the car half an hour, not even 1 salesman or women come to serve us! we r the only customer at that time, we saw all the sales ppl there just sitting there lepak, read newspapers, do their own works, chitchating like they r the big boss who open the shop there!! nevermind with that, so we just view ourselve, take the vourcher, price list ourselve, my wif is attract with the gen2 1.3 price list. but at that time the gen2 1.3 is still equiped with casset player, no power window at the rear sit??!! so she very disappointed with the service n product n remove out gen2 from her buying list. what she if let say she buy this car, what type service will she get during delivery, service?? so finally she choose vios which it is totally diff world. not to said although we pay less then we'll get less better services or pay more get better services, but seem like we pay less get really far bad n like 4th world country service and product. although we know it is our so called national car (but now most of our car like t & h also locally made, also can call national car lah) has been exempted from tax from gov, but it seem does not benifit to our own ppl malaysians. it is really bad to say that there treat us like slave!! maybe it is not their fault since our car price is on of the highest in the world. in the past i also own a wira which repair power window more than 5 times, meter cannot function, lether stering n gear knob wear off, door side panel pocket drop off, bumper front and back discoloration, service hv to wait from early morning 7am to eveining 5pm. actually my wira car condition still very gd other than above mention problems. but i really cant stand all small thing defects. how can they handle big defect even small thing defect cannot be solve?? dont say again that we pay less to get less gd service and product. as a national car should benefit us rather give us suffer. we r not try to ban to buy our own product, but we also try to buy it with satisfy manner, in peace. the worst case is from ahmad's case, the sales ppl not even admit it is her wrong doing.

    i do hope proton and our CEO can accept this comment positively and improve their way of working and culture. same like our gov, hire a auditor to monitor their sales ppl not just the sales figure but their attitute n service in term of KPI, review all the product made see how to improve further and meet current market demand, not continue making absolute product, make same product quality level for locally and export market, dont abuse local market. we can follow jap working culture and some of thier product.

    i also do hope proton can come to a level which can compete with other player like koreans and jap.[/quote]

    i agree with crazy. Don't insulate yourself from the outside competition, Proton. Toyota sent its engineers to California before they came up with the Lexus in 1989. If there's no inspiration for Proton, especially in interior design, it is going to remain status quo. I hope these efforts are sustained in the new Perdana, and proton offers a supercharged CPS engine for a new top-of-the-range Exora and Perdana.

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  • bgentle on Apr 25, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    A customer like not_ah_beng, steve naga and his ilks would deserve a kick on his butt if he ever went to my showroom, because he would talk about tax endlessly and other rubbish that he posted here that has nothing to do with the Exora being displayed.

    If I were the saleperson, I would not waste my time with him. I would rather entertain other customers who have genuine and sincere intention.

    In a hindsight, saying that cars are taxed cruelly in the country manifests the person's inability to acquire the car. I don't have the slightest symphathy for him; I only abhor his ungratification to the maximum, as he is being cruel to himself if he buys a car that he cannot afford.

    I am happy to buy a car that is taxed highly, to show that I am grateful to the country. I am sure many who owned luxury cars would feel the same way as I do.

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  • k-rule on Apr 26, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    [quote comment="233567"][quote comment="233551"][quote comment="233547"][quote comment="233462"]

    …………………….

    ………………. [/quote]

    ….[/quote]

    yes i think she mistakenly me with someone else. you can say i`m the wrong person at the wrong place and at the wrong time :)[/quote]

    Saya pun rasa tak adil lah juga kpd org yg tak melihat perkara yg sebenarnya berlaku utk menghakimi SA tersebut, termasuklah diri saya.

    Kadang2 terasa simpati juga terhadap SA proton ni dgn kerenah pelanggan2 yg kurang beradab. Kalau nak survey kereta tu biarlah berpada janganlah pula jadi macam engineer RND pulak. Ketuk2 sana dan calar2kan dash board dan sebagainya, pergilah survey kereta2 dgn baik.

    Saya pun juga bersimpati kepada sdr Ahmad Zahirini, harap2 janganlah disebabkan pengalaman pahit tersebut membuat sdr terus menerus menjauhi Proton.

    Saya pun bukan wakil/pekerja proton, cuma tumpang simpati..[/quote]

    For me, that SA should have been FIRED!! One must know the basic rules for being a SA.. I myself in customer service industry, i know the pain of what a customer can do to hurt you emotionally, soul-ly..but wutevaitis, customer is king! From the story, I didn't see anything wrong that ahmad zahirini or any other customer had done. Setakat ketuk ketuk tu biasalah.. You are going to spend RM70k, of course you wanna know what is the quality that you're spending on!!

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  • muryadi on Apr 27, 2009 at 3:01 am

    [quote comment="233977"]

    For me, that SA should have been FIRED!! One must know the basic rules for being a SA.. I myself in customer service industry, i know the pain of what a customer can do to hurt you emotionally, soul-ly..but wutevaitis, customer is king! From the story, I didn't see anything wrong that ahmad zahirini or any other customer had done. Setakat ketuk ketuk tu biasalah.. You are going to spend RM70k, of course you wanna know what is the quality that you're spending on!![/quote]

    Dari MotorTrader’s Forum:

    Sudah terdapat 6800 buah Exora ditempah semenjak Feb-2009. Kira oklah tu.

    http://www.motortrader.com.my/asp/forum/topic.asp…

    More than 6,800 orders have been received for the Proton Exora since bookings were opened in February.

    Proton MD Dato’ Haji Syed Zainal Abidin bin Syed Mohamed Tahir said: “We are heartened by the bookings that we have received. It reflects the customers’ confidence in the MPV and in PROTON. We are encouraged by the level of acceptance. Clearly, these customers are looking for affordable vehicles which are safer, bigger and more comfortable.”

    “We would like to convey our sincerest gratitude to our MPV customers who have shown faith in us,” added Dato’ Syed Zainal.

    “Deliveries of the Exora have begun since the launch day and will continue accordingly. Nevertheless, as the orders are now picking up, a waiting period of between two to three months is expected depending on the models and colours.

    “Rest assured that we are doing our utmost in our factory to deliver as many vehicles and as soon as possible without sacrificing quality to meet this encouraging demand,” continued Dato’ Syed Zainal.

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  • clement on Apr 27, 2009 at 5:31 am

    i would said that the engine is not enough power for the car.. Base on the calculation of the proton Exora, the Newton Meter has to pull is one of the worst. It’s the amount of torque and the torque curve that matters when it comes to pulling a lot of weight. That one just for without passenger.. IF the car with 7 adults, then the car will surely no power. And its will become more petrol consumption.

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  • Syed Zainal on Apr 27, 2009 at 8:57 am

    Good Morning En Ahmad,

    I like to thank you for your interest n excitement to check out the Exora. I appreciate the time that you put in airing up your experience. I have been told that my colleagues in the customer management center are already on the matter since last Friday. I like to know what happen too. In the mean time, please continue to support PROTON.

    En Crazy has also put forth some of his experience with our colleagues in sales. It is unfortunate that we can lose a customer in this manner. I am definitely in total agreement with your suggestion to use kpi to monitor the behavior on top of the sales numbers.

    Thank you for your feedback n suggestion,
    Syed Zainal

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  • Skippy on Apr 27, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    [quote comment="234062"]i would said that the engine is not enough power for the car.. Base on the calculation of the proton Exora, the Newton Meter has to pull is one of the worst. It’s the amount of torque and the torque curve that matters when it comes to pulling a lot of weight. That one just for without passenger.. IF the car with 7 adults, then the car will surely no power. And its will become more petrol consumption.[/quote]

    One question…. have you test drive it??? If you haven't then save that comment until u tested it….

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  • hi…em,mr crazy, why u like to compare exora with stream,wish, rondo and livina 1.8,it is not exora direct competitor. u should compare with avanza 1.5,grand livina 1.6. maybe in the future, when the time is right, exora will compete with those head on but of course, not the same equip exora. maybe u will be suprise. em about the color of material, proton did the research and survey, and based on the findings, majority of the buyer want a dark interior/grey. but if u can see in exora prime and prestige u can see that the dashboard come with dual tone and black one, and you can see how color can change u perception on quality eventhough the material used for the dashboard is still the same. proton has used this color in gen2,savvy and waja, but there still people complaining about the color. so, it hard to please people.

    about the new waja, i cannot tell u anything, but rest assured, its on schedule. just wait for the official information then i can give u some info.

    the material used is on par with the japanese but i must praise the designer of toyota wish because the texture used is very good but of course, proton did not want to copy the texture, if used the same texture then people will said copy toyota,xda idea la. that why all the designers use different textures but of course, they did their research. as i mention, is hard to please every one.

    proton never said that exora is the most powerful mpv, but it is on par with its competitors, but it also depend on the user also. if u think that it is the same as waja and gen2 or neo cps, u r wrong but u should compare with the mpv in its class.

    so, exora is not targeted to those who want to drag its car every day but to those who want to ferry their family from point a to b in safely, comfortably. adios……………

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  • Adzim on Apr 27, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    I doubt people will buy the Exora for the sake of its speed. I don't think squeezing your beloved family inside an MPV and attempt to drive 150kph and honestly expecting to outrun each other on the road. This is build for comfort, and for its competitive price, and many of its review.

    Yes, on paper the engine capacity is rather small but try to give it a test drive. There's pros and cons obsiously.

    The only question that looms in my head; Are the Prime and Prestige Edition on sales?

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  • keretaburuk on Apr 28, 2009 at 2:25 am

    Salam encik 406,

    Saya pasti majoriti memilih grey utk bahagian dalaman exora, tapi alangkah lebih kreatif kalau grey dijadikan dua tone, saya yakin sedikit sentuhan akan menghasilkan banyak perbezaan. Saya sendiri seorang designer, jadi expectations saya adalah besar kepada produk terbaru proton ini.

    FYI exora yg saya tempah akan diterima minggu depan.

    orait…

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  • initial R on Apr 28, 2009 at 2:54 am

    Sedikit cadangan kalau buat perubahan skim warna dalaman Exora. Bahagian Dashboard kalau buat 2 tone ok gak macam permukaan dekat dengan cermin jadikan warna Hitam (Hitam serap cahaya & tak memantul), dahagian bawah pulak kekalkan dengan warna asal Gray (Gray warna yang nutral, X terang & X cerah. Rasa selesa sikit. Bahagian 3rd row kekalkan ngan warna cerah cuma jadikan gelap sikit (corak bintik tu dah cantik dah). Gear knob tukar sikit penampilan dari krom kepada Matt metal finishing, baru nampak sporty sikit (Engraving logo Proton atas Knob tu).

    Pasal En Ahmad tu saya juga agak dukacita tentang layanan yang diterima. Sepatutnya setiap SA atau Sales Conciarge tak sepatutnya berkelakuan begitu. Saya pernah menjadi jururunding Barangan Kemas dari satu Brand Malaysia terbesar Sekarang satu masa dahulu. Berbagai jenis pelanggan ditemui tak kira VVIP hingga ke makcik cuci tandas pun saya layan dengan mesra. Harus diingat setiap pelanggan yang masuk ke kawasan jualan adalah potensi pembeli (walaupun beli cincin belah rotan aje). Layanan yang bagus akan membuatkan pelanggan akan datang cari kita sebab First impession menentukan pelanggan percaya kepada kita atau pun tak. Semua staff aku skarang pun aku telah ajar dengan prinsip ini.

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  • clement on Apr 28, 2009 at 8:49 am

    to skippy..

    normally the performance of the Malaysia engine is less power compare to the foreign car engine… This can easily see the when u test drive the 1.5 car between the Malaysia made and foreign car..

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  • Skippy on Apr 28, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    [quote comment="234391"]to skippy..

    normally the performance of the Malaysia engine is less power compare to the foreign car engine… This can easily see the when u test drive the 1.5 car between the Malaysia made and foreign car..[/quote]

    lol… again.. normally… mathematics calculation…. freaking go and test drive and then talk…. am not saying that malaysian engine is the best…

    it is just annoys me that u r talking just base on ur math calculation and hypothesis or prediction…

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  • clement on Apr 28, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    haih… my house total have 4 malaysia car.. Not even one the car of 1.5 Malaysia made car can fight with the old 1.5 Ford.. Even new pesona 1.6 also same .

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  • Is anyone paying attention to how safe you will be in an accident? The Exora was tested at 57kmph and it was crushed like that. What happens if you are doing twice that figure (100kmph)?

    When would people stop paying attention to beauty and start paying attention to safety?

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  • Perotiga on Apr 28, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    [quote comment="234289"]

    Pasal En Ahmad tu saya juga agak dukacita tentang layanan yang diterima. Sepatutnya setiap SA atau Sales Conciarge tak sepatutnya berkelakuan begitu. Saya pernah menjadi jururunding Barangan Kemas dari satu Brand Malaysia terbesar Sekarang satu masa dahulu. Berbagai jenis pelanggan ditemui tak kira VVIP hingga ke makcik cuci tandas pun saya layan dengan mesra. Harus diingat setiap pelanggan yang masuk ke kawasan jualan adalah potensi pembeli (walaupun beli cincin belah rotan aje). Layanan yang bagus akan membuatkan pelanggan akan datang cari kita sebab First impession menentukan pelanggan percaya kepada kita atau pun tak. Semua staff aku skarang pun aku telah ajar dengan prinsip ini.[/quote]

    apakata juga layanan mesra kepada bloger di sini, samaada bash tak bash juga potensi pembeli dan harus dilayani dengan mesra juga. bagi yang suka bash tanpa brain, beriilah perluang bagi dia orang padam muka dengan pemadam muka sendiri. soal lagi satu ialah servis, aku pernah ada bad experience semasa savvy baru keluar, tapi ini adalah CERITA MUSEUM 4 TAHUN DAHULU, aku harap p1 sentiasa bersedia memperbaiki, mempertingkatkan servis mereka, sebab setiap pembeli akan diikuti dengan perkhimatan servis selama 3 tahun.

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  • najman on Apr 28, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    I like the 2 tones colour of the new Perodua MPV. Wish Proton can produce that kind of colour (darker a bit) for the new car/MPV interior.

    Still waiting for Exora (booked at Kuala Selangor branch b4 launching). The SA are acceptable ok here, friendly. Hope to get it b4 July 09. Test drive … still waiting … if invited…

    I waited for this Proton MPV since 2004. Thought at first of buying Innova / Naza Ria / Grand Livina.

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  • Skippy on Apr 28, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    [quote comment="234456"]haih… my house total have 4 malaysia car.. Not even one the car of 1.5 Malaysia made car can fight with the old 1.5 Ford.. Even new pesona 1.6 also same .[/quote]

    ummm i was referring to exora…

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  • RdLey on Apr 29, 2009 at 12:42 am

    Sian Proton, sbb some of the crazy personnel, nama Proton jatuh…

    Aku also nak share one experience. Kitaorg mmg tgh plan nak tukar our Wira to Exora… since anak dah gaduh berebut nak baring kat back seat…

    So, last 2 weeks, my wife pegi la ke dealer Proton kat Kota Damansara (Sec. 6), sambil2 gi lunch time.. After had lunch nearby, dia and kawan2 pegi la tengok2 Exora kat showroom tu. Since aku dah test drive exora kat EON Glenmarie, so, aku dah tau serba sikit camana… Dia je yg blum lagi test..

    She asked samada ada keta test drive ke tak. Then sale rep kat situ cakap ada, but sape2 yang nak test drive, kena bayar booking dulu RM500. baru boleh test drive…

    Boleh ke camtu.. seingat aku, tak penah lagi ada orang jual barang camni… Kalau dah bayar booking, maknanya dah setuju la dgn produk yg hendak dibeli, so, no need for test lagi la… sebab test, kita blum tahu lagi samada kita puashati ke tidak dengan produk tu..

    So, I asked my fren kat Proton HQ pasal benda ni… samada ni polisi proton ker,, or just sukatimakbapakdia punya polisi jerr.. my fren tu cakap, may be that saleman tak nak layan org test drive la kot.. takut habis minyak ke aper ker..hehehehe.. so, sbb perkara ni rasa nak beli tu rasa terbantut.

    Itu je laa… nak share.. kot2 proton boleh upgrade all sale person on good Customer Service..

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  • kelvin on Apr 29, 2009 at 8:18 am

    Dear Dato Syed Zainal,

    I would like to know when can i expect to get my Exora, i booked on the 1st day the booking started, ie 21/02/09

    A bit disappointed that there is no news when i can get the car.

    I called the car dealer & they said they also have no info about it. Even i called proton i-care, they also don know.

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  • Skippy on Apr 29, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    TBH… there is not much that PROTON can do about the sales person… PROTON did training and briefing for them to improve their skills and knowledge… but in the end it's all up to the distributors or dealers to control and manage their salesperson… it's actually quite out of proton's hand…

    but then again, you can always send complaints to proton and dun forget to include the time, place and who if u ever encounter any problem…

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  • kejang on Apr 29, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    macam2 perangai manusia kat dunia ni yer.

    exora ni mmg hebat…tgk kat forum ni pun dah berjela..

    komen ok or tidak itu kita pendapat sendiri..

    mungkin yang upgrade from kete lama or kecik rasa best

    tapi yang downgrade from 2.0 sure ada komen

    lama dah kereta proton tak dapat perhatian camni

    macam launching wira dulu

    dekat showroom pun sampai SA tak terlayan..

    Anyway Dato' Syed..customer is the King

    teringat seorang SA kat kedai emas bagitau..

    kalau pakai tak kene bayar..tapi kalau nak bawak balik baru kene bayar

    it's like the test drive…kereta untuk dipandu..bukan untuk diparking jer

    lainlah kita beli rumah..tgk rumah cth dah ok

    anyway saya nak puji SA kat Malim Melaka, dia yang offer test drive kat saya

    kat Klang pun camtu..

    Good luck Dato'

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  • cardreamer on Apr 29, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Hi all,

    Really sad reading the comments on sales personnel….i had mine too…

    I test drive an exora last week somewhere at Kuchai Lama….This sales person is very nice..too nice to the extent that he refuse to talk much….don't rreally know why but to my guess:

    1. Don't have the knowledge of the product he is selling

    2. Don't want to ignite questions by customers

    3. Plain lazy/stupid or what ever….

    I said to my wife later, better be me as the sales person….One best thing about him is he is very helpful in giving me the test drive i need most…

    My verdict on Exora ( After had driven a Livina and Rondo, which are on my buying list..):

    1. The engine is very responsive once you push the pedal from zero…but too responsive for me…am afraid i might knock someone car when try to squeeze near other cars…just like to jump as you push it…In Livina, once you put the gear to D, the car will smoothly move without having to push the pedal….this help a lot in squeezing mode…in this area, Exora-Citra-Rondo-Livina (best)

    2. At some point, as you push the pedal, it just lock there, don't want to change gear downword….so you will not picking up…Exora-Citra-Livina-Rondo (best)

    3. The feel of steering is on the light side..you can still feel the grudge of the tarmac on the steering wheel…citra-exora-livina-Rondo (best)

    4. Driver sitting – feel very roomy and okay…hard to compare, but I like Rondo’s sitting the most…

    5. Interior arrangements – Exora beats the rest….Livina-Citra-Rondo-Exora(best)

    6. Looks – Exora beat the rest…Livina-Citra-Rondo-Exora (best)

    7. Interior material quality…Citra-Exora-Livina-Rondo (best)

    8. The best part as a driver…Driving feel satisfaction…among the four, Rondo is the best…in term of the car feel heavy but with enough power, Steering feel very good, driver sitting, less engine sound, NVH inside cabin…

    9. For passenger comfort, Exora is the best in roomy cabin and aircond ducting…

    10. For outdoor type family man…Rondo is the best, enough engine power, roof rail for thule box/bicycle carrier, SUV looks, enough space for whole family outing, the rear of vehicle more suitable for rear mounting bicycle carrier/ haulage of goods.. I am in this category..he..

    Been eying for Rondo since its launching, but waited for Exora…very attracted to the interior arrangements of Exora, but after test drive it, seriously I think Proton should consider a more powerful engine, a smooth powerful engine…a 2.0 engine + Roof Rail will enhance the Exora to a next level…and I will go for it (can’t resist the interior roomy)…but as it is now, overall winner at about the same price category is Naza Rondo.

    This is my verdict base on my one test drive only….tried to test drive onother one at Jln Puchong…asking me to put RM1000 booking fee for a test drive!…ridiculous….it is like you have to buy the manggo first then you can taste the sample..ha..ha..and by the way I am ex-Citra owner and still looking for another MPV…even a used one…a Nabira is also in my list..anyone’s interested of selling?…

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  • madimat on Apr 29, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    [quote comment="234491"]Is anyone paying attention to how safe you will be in an accident? The Exora was tested at 57kmph and it was crushed like that. What happens if you are doing twice that figure (100kmph)?

    When would people stop paying attention to beauty and start paying attention to safety?[/quote]

    How things will differ if you drive an Avanza or a Livina or any car and hit a stationary wall at 100kmh? Do you think you can survive? You do think that cars other than Proton give enough protection like what is offered in Exora ? Don't you know that an MPV twice the price of an Exora give less protection in a given similar accident?

    Go google 'crumple zone' and you will understand why most modern cars NEED to be crushed like that so in certain ways it can save you.

    .peace!

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  • Nakal on Apr 29, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    DSZ,

    Your PONSB has improve a lot, congratulation to you. But now..it just your EDAR, or your salesmen..and maybe other dealers like EON..

    Still to many to be improved.

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  • upinipin on Apr 29, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    [quote comment="234632"]Dear Dato Syed Zainal,

    I would like to know when can i expect to get my Exora, i booked on the 1st day the booking started, ie 21/02/09

    A bit disappointed that there is no news when i can get the car.

    I called the car dealer & they said they also have no info about it. Even i called proton i-care, they also don know.[/quote]

    I booked on 21/2/09 too. My Exora arrived already at the dealer's place. Now registration, insurance & admin process… shall get my car on this coming monday/tuesday.

    Kelvin, u better visit your dealer and get their explanation why there is no news about your order.

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  • Tengokaje.. on Apr 29, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    I've also had test drive this lady Exora last week. No need to pay RM500.00. Just ask the SA if there any, and he replied got to wait a few minutes because there's a few customer waiting for test drive. It's okay for me. The important thing is that I can test drive the lady Exora. Feel comfortable..

    Salam..

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  • [quote comment="234632"]Dear Dato Syed Zainal,

    I would like to know when can i expect to get my Exora, i booked on the 1st day the booking started, ie 21/02/09

    A bit disappointed that there is no news when i can get the car.

    I called the car dealer & they said they also have no info about it. Even i called proton i-care, they also don know.[/quote]

    I booked on 28 March….about 2 weeks b4 the launcing….till now the dealer have no info when I can get my Exora…memang aku disappointed…..sepatutnya dah boleh dapat awal coz booked dua minggu sebelum launching…

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  • PEGAGA on Apr 29, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    [quote comment="230156"]I dun think exora will beat produo mpv[base on prvios produo mpv thread]..

    just like how savvy beat myvi..it fail..no matter how great their marketing have done. they seem like forgot the product talk for themself.

    and i think the satrio neo are the best product since the proton wira era..

    the rest are so so only.

    proton should look forward ahead from competitor and the next green car will be proton good move. but need to be price competitive la if wanna be success.[/quote]

    alamakkkkk bro….lu silap laaaa the best car after wira is WAJA… lu pergi oversea ker sebelum WAJA keluar. And do not compare PROTAN and PERODUA. I'm sure in space wise PERODUA mpv tak boleh compete pun, sama besar macam AVANZA jer…. for a famili with two or three kids bolehlah ambil PERODUA cause i sit spare for the maid and any space yang tinggal untuk letak bakul susu maaaaa….. But for those yang ada 4 or more kids EXORA berbaloi…lagipun ramai yang bangga dengan PROTON pun. OKAIZZZZZZ…… apepun semua product Malaysia tuuuu…. cuma sapa-sapa yng masih bangga ngan TOYOTA, depa akan kata PERODUA baguzzzzzz….

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  • [quote comment="234782"]I've also had test drive this lady Exora last week. No need to pay RM500.00. Just ask the SA if there any, and he replied got to wait a few minutes because there's a few customer waiting for test drive. It's okay for me. The important thing is that I can test drive the lady Exora. Feel comfortable..

    Salam..[/quote]

    Wat do u meant by lady exora??

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  • Tengokaje.. on Apr 30, 2009 at 12:21 am

    Proton Exora. Oppss may be some one have different perception upon my posting. Thousands apologizes…

    Salam..

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  • [quote comment="234632"]Dear Dato Syed Zainal,

    I would like to know when can i expect to get my Exora, i booked on the 1st day the booking started, ie 21/02/09

    A bit disappointed that there is no news when i can get the car.

    I called the car dealer & they said they also have no info about it. Even i called proton i-care, they also don know.[/quote]

    OMG…if u have to wait so long, then I have to wait longer la….aiyo die lo. Some more the SA said can get it in a month time. Like this problem, I trade in my Unser price will be drop by the time I got my exora. very sad :(

    Hope dun like my wife wait for her new sage took 6 months……but she didn't trade in any car, so that is ok. :(

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  • kitakiti on Apr 30, 2009 at 4:37 am

    Macam…macam komen dengar kat forum ni…biasalah tu kalau kereta buatan malaysia satu "inci" pun nak usik….kalau import fuhhh semuanya ok walau design macam entah apa-apa….mentaliti kita masih kebelakang 20 tahun….pemikiran kelas ketiga….apapun syabas buat proton kerana melahirkan sebuah kereta diluar jangkaan berbanding umur proton setahun jagung….syabas…

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  • hai…thank you for the comments. i'm sure all ur comments will be taken into account. about the power, it is up to a person perception. if u can live in avanza 1.5 and livina 1.6, u will be okay with exora. but if u want it performs like estime or oddesey or the new stream and wish,or car, so u r in the wrong boat. this is entry level mpv.

    about the steering feeling, yes, if u have driven sports cars such as porshe,ferrari and even lotus, u will know that steering feeling is very important because u will know what happen beneath ur car and also u will know when it come to its limits. the eps in a normal japanese car or mpv, did not have that feeling, u will feel a little bit numb. the steering is not well weighted. but some people prefer that kind of steering. so its depend to your own personal preference. since proton fully maximizing lotus ability in ride and handling. FYI, since gen2, the driving dynamic of lotus elise has been implemented into proton cars. thats why when u drive gen2, u will have a similar feeling when u r driving lotus elise. try drive lotus elise, then u will know what i mean.

    ok, i think thats all for now….adios……….

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  • GUA KENA BEB on May 01, 2009 at 7:17 am

    I am among the first who owned this MPV exora . Sincerely said this is the CINCAI product , less quality control and not up the expection of the malaysian people .

    I am really up set not only on the interior part but the DAMN serious thing is the engine leaking just after 3 days with milleage merely 300 + KM ….what the hell is this MPV .

    I am ashamed of this thing and till now kept it secret . At first I am proud of being the early birders , but now i fell down and depressed.

    Normally when you buy a new car , surely u are happy , worry free since it's is a brand new car …but with this 'cincai' MPV I got a new and unwellcome headache .

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  • imran on May 01, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Yepp.. I like this car Exora.. but the QC issue still bothers me. You know what.. I would like to have the names of those assemblers so I can complain to Proton if I got any problems with my car. You can have a very sophisticated and technologically advanced car design but if the assemblers' mentality and skills are quality 'retarded',you can kiss everything goodbye. 'Cincai' people should be 'cincang'. 80k investment is no 'kacang putih' thing. Total quality the way to go forward.

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  • Well,well…..as I mention before, its all depend on luck when you get a new car from Proton. QC still no improvement yet. They should come up with a proper system to track back at the production line, who did the work for the problem units and take action. Rest will notice this and make no mistake. Same goes to the QC engineer who pass it out off the plant. Who ever got the most top mark on failure units get a nice "bonus" to go home forever. Then there will be a great improvement. If not forever the same.

    Now have to see what is the failure volume. If it just like last time, then we all can forget about proton. I had play my part as a Malaysian by getting one Exora to show my support on the first National MPV (yet to mention my wife is owning a new saga as well).

    I have to pray very hard now, so I can get mine without much problem.

    Need more feedback from the new owner over here. Thanks for your post GUA KENA BEB.

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  • KickingDust on May 02, 2009 at 3:36 am

    Skippy said,

    April 29, 2009 @ 7:44 am · Reply with quote

    … PROTON did training and briefing for them to improve their skills and knowledge…

    …but then again, you can always send complaints to proton and dun forget to include the time, place and who if u ever encounter any problem…

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Thanks Skippy,

    please forward all matters regarding Sales Advisors service level to : [email protected]

    Please include the details /nature of the incident, time, place & name of SA for Proton's intervention.

    cheers,

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  • anonymous on May 02, 2009 at 7:26 am

    beware of spam comments though…someone will eventually claimed that they owned an exora and posted all sorts of problem with the car..rule no 1. trust ur own judgement

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  • KickingDust on May 02, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    anonymous said,

    May 1, 2009 @ 11:26 pm · Reply with quote

    beware of spam comments though…someone will eventually claimed that they owned an exora and posted all sorts of problem with the car..rule no 1. trust ur own judgement

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    yes, i think it would be proactive move for both parties if (atleast) the chassis nos is declared (rather than remaining anonymous) for everyone's benefit.

    cheers,

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  • [quote comment="235129"]I am among the first who owned this MPV exora . Sincerely said this is the CINCAI product , less quality control and not up the expection of the malaysian people .

    I am really up set not only on the interior part but the DAMN serious thing is the engine leaking just after 3 days with milleage merely 300 + KM ….what the hell is this MPV .

    I am ashamed of this thing and till now kept it secret . At first I am proud of being the early birders , but now i fell down and depressed.

    Normally when you buy a new car , surely u are happy , worry free since it's is a brand new car …but with this 'cincai' MPV I got a new and unwellcome headache .[/quote]

    Somethin 'fishy' about this guy. If you are bold enough to book blindly exora before launching (asuming since you are the early bird) why complain all sort of things when u received it. And now you decide it is CINCAI..and where did you get the idea that new car have no problems. Surely they will have one, the engineer may have overlook somethin (esp the 1st batch).

    Plus your complain sounds familiar in other forum. An exora owner complaining about the quality but at the same time the same exora owner was spotted to be posting in a forum how much used MPV value depreciate since intro of exora.

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  • [quote comment="234720"]Hi all,

    …..

    This is my verdict base on my one test drive only….tried to test drive onother one at Jln Puchong…asking me to put RM1000 booking fee for a test drive!…ridiculous….it is like you have to buy the manggo first then you can taste the sample..ha..ha..and by the way I am ex-Citra owner and still looking for another MPV…even a used one…a Nabira is also in my list..anyone’s interested of selling?…[/quote]

    My uncle is planning to sell his Nabira MPV, if u interested, I might provide u his no.

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  • Rahman Hamdan on May 03, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Kali pertama jatuh cinta dengan kereta keluaran proton. Tahniah PROTON!!!!!

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  • Rahman Hamdan on May 03, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Papa Yas nak Exora. Beli la.

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  • This forum is getting a bit boring already. Why no new Exora owner feedback? Good or bad share your thought here with us. Unless there are so few exora owner til now.

    Til today I have yet to see a single exora on the road yet (other then the test drive unit). What a pity……..

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  • Noname on May 04, 2009 at 5:11 am

    [quote comment="235129"]I am among the first who owned this MPV exora . bla..bla..bla..

    I am really up set.. bla..bla…bla..bla .[/quote]

    …………………

    really? so. it is under warranty right? … but i dont trust u and your word!! since anyone can claim they have the exora.., just mention your name here..maybe u can get special attention by proton i care :)

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  • stroller on May 04, 2009 at 7:21 am

    i received my exora on 28/04/09.. among the early bird also… well my reaction to some ppl claim as owner of this model is diffrent. i've been driving away from kl for a holiday on east coast countryside. travelling through banjaran ttwangsa merapoh hilly road… bumpy ride from gua musang to kb… with capacity 4 adult 3 children & luggage… my conclusion, no problem… my avarege speed around 100kmh and fc are about RM60 for a distance around 500km. no problem during overtaking also when there is slow moving lorry or bus on the journey. & now i still i kb.. having good holiday with my family.. will go on tour later to kt then kuantan then to kl… back to home… InsyaAllah… salam

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  • [quote comment="235703"]i received my exora on 28/04/09.. among the early bird also… well my reaction to some ppl claim as owner of this model is diffrent. i've been driving away from kl for a holiday on east coast countryside. travelling through banjaran ttwangsa merapoh hilly road… bumpy ride from gua musang to kb… with capacity 4 adult 3 children & luggage… my conclusion, no problem… my avarege speed around 100kmh and fc are about RM60 for a distance around 500km. no problem during overtaking also when there is slow moving lorry or bus on the journey. & now i still i kb.. having good holiday with my family.. will go on tour later to kt then kuantan then to kl… back to home… InsyaAllah… salam[/quote]

    Salam stroller,

    Thank you, that a good feedback…need more like stroller to share here with us. Good or bad, we want to hear from u…Cheers!!!

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  • Noname on May 04, 2009 at 9:32 am

    [quote comment="235703"]i received my exora on 28/04/09.. among the early bird also… well my reaction to some ppl claim as owner of this model is diffrent. i've been driving away from kl for a holiday on east coast countryside. travelling through banjaran ttwangsa merapoh hilly road… bumpy ride from gua musang to kb… with capacity 4 adult 3 children & luggage… my conclusion, no problem… my avarege speed around 100kmh and fc are about RM60 for a distance around 500km. no problem during overtaking also when there is slow moving lorry or bus on the journey. & now i still i kb.. having good holiday with my family.. will go on tour later to kt then kuantan then to kl… back to home… InsyaAllah… salam[/quote]

    ———-

    he is not 'OWNER' actually, but " CINCAU SA" that want make sure malaysian cancel their booking on Exora :) maybe he want to promote Rondo/ Citra..haha… Yeah, i also enjoy my holiday in this 3 days and sometimes i can see Exora on highway, simply overtake others vehicle.. yeah i can say it is good for vacation, spacious..

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  • farghmee on May 04, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    [quote comment="235736"][quote comment="235703"]i received my exora on 28/04/09.. among the early bird also… well my reaction to some ppl claim as owner of this model is diffrent. i've been driving away from kl for a holiday on east coast countryside. travelling through banjaran ttwangsa merapoh hilly road… bumpy ride from gua musang to kb… with capacity 4 adult 3 children & luggage… my conclusion, no problem… my avarege speed around 100kmh and fc are about RM60 for a distance around 500km. no problem during overtaking also when there is slow moving lorry or bus on the journey. & now i still i kb.. having good holiday with my family.. will go on tour later to kt then kuantan then to kl… back to home… InsyaAllah… salam[/quote]

    ———-

    he is not 'OWNER' actually, but " CINCAU SA" that want make sure malaysian cancel their booking on Exora :) maybe he want to promote Rondo/ Citra..haha… Yeah, i also enjoy my holiday in this 3 days and sometimes i can see Exora on highway, simply overtake others vehicle.. yeah i can say it is good for vacation, spacious..[/quote]

    if stroller has been bluffing all this while in other forum,

    then i might be fooled by him also.

    otherwise…

    if stroller is not bluffing,

    then noname is fooling us?

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  • Reasonably Insane on May 04, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    probably noname was actually replying the GUA KENA BEB's comments… but misquoted stroller comments… =p

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  • farghmee on May 04, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    [quote comment="235802"]probably noname was actually replying the GUA KENA BEB's comments… but misquoted stroller comments… =p[/quote]

    o~ if that the case, i'm sorry :)

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  • what stroller said is true. he is the owner of exora and also vios if i'm not mistaken. he is my cousin's friend. he already mms his exora picture including him to my cousin. his exora color is pryite brown. em, i myself also proton user, have a waja campro and savvy. may be i am lucky because until now my cars are trouble free. em, regarding to increase a little bit of responsiveness of cps engine, maybe u can change the spark plug to boch platinum iridium fusion, use voltage stabilizer (purple mega raizin by pivot) and drop in air filter by K&N.(PLEASE BUY ORIGINAL PRODUCT)

    i've been using these products to my waja campro, it really improve the responsiveness of the car. u will feel the different. and i think it will not void ur warranty. it also save my waja fc up tp 10% highway and around 5% in the city driving (normal Driving not harddriving). even the infamous torque dip of old campro engine also almost eliminated. so i recommend this to all exora owner/campro/campro iafm/campro cps owner.

    i'm very satisfy with the investment that i had done eventhough i have to pay around rm800 for all the gadgets. after my warranty expired, i changed my extractor at powerzone and R3 cable plug for campro, its all worth it. now my waja auto has nearly the same power with cps (dyno tested) and already have a drag with proton putra 4g93p manual, and it was a tie until 180kmh where i start to brake because there is a car in front of my car.

    i thought that my car must be the same as waja cps but to my suprise when i test drove the cps, it is better than my car eventhough have the same power rating. cps power is more progressive and the best part is it has a second wind for the higher rpm. so my conclusion, if those who thinks exora is under power,or cps is not powerful enough, for those who drive avanza 1.5 and livina 1.6, why dont u have a proper drag with exora and see whether u can smoke exora badly or not. already smoke my sister vios and brother in law city vtec(the previous version). i know, it is not a proper comparison but since majority of u talk about power to weight ratio, city and vios has the advantage over my humble waja.

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  • and u can see my exora test drive with my friend at you tube. there are three video, one uphill acceleration(normal speeding up between 80-100kmh), one for 0-100kmh(100kmh at 2nd gear 6000rpm) acceleration and the last one is normal speed and sudenly speeding up to 120kmh@third gear/5000rpm.

    all of the test drive is with 3 occupants weighing around 250kg because my weigh is 115kg,my friend around 55kg and the 'big' SA around 90kg. all the test drive is also with front and rear full blast aircond (no 4 for blowers). i dont think that it is powerful than other cars or even waja cps but it is powerful enough or adequte enough to haul exora. as we all know, no one will drive a car with full blown aircond everyday or time and fully loaded everyday. if the blower is set at normal rate. example no 2 for front and rear, it will perform better. it also will perform better if only front blower is on. please remember to turn off the rear blower if there is no one at back.

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  • oldwira on May 05, 2009 at 10:34 am

    I saw Exora side by side with Avanza 1.5 on LDP last weekend. Sorry to say, the T badge MPV looked so lousy and inferior as compared to the more luxurious look of Exora. So funny.

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  • Cross Polo on May 05, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    [quote comment="235814"]and u can see my exora test drive with my friend at you tube. there are three video, one uphill acceleration(normal speeding up between 80-100kmh), one for 0-100kmh(100kmh at 2nd gear 6000rpm) acceleration and the last one is normal speed and sudenly speeding up to 120kmh@third gear/5000rpm.

    all of the test drive is with 3 occupants weighing around 250kg because my weigh is 115kg,my friend around 55kg and the 'big' SA around 90kg. all the test drive is also with front and rear full blast aircond (no 4 for blowers). i dont think that it is powerful than other cars or even waja cps but it is powerful enough or adequte enough to haul exora. as we all know, no one will drive a car with full blown aircond everyday or time and fully loaded everyday. if the blower is set at normal rate. example no 2 for front and rear, it will perform better. it also will perform better if only front blower is on. please remember to turn off the rear blower if there is no one at back.[/quote]

    Bro…. kasi link ler… boleh kongsi sama.

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  • farghmee on May 05, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    [quote comment="235887"]I saw Exora side by side with Avanza 1.5 on LDP last weekend. Sorry to say, the T badge MPV looked so lousy and inferior as compared to the more luxurious look of Exora. So funny.[/quote]

    hehe..l

    ooks can be deceiving, u know…

    & tempting also ;)

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  • haii…

    oldwira said

    I saw Exora side by side with Avanza 1.5 on LDP last weekend. Sorry to say, the T badge MPV looked so lousy and inferior as compared to the more luxurious look of Exora. So funny.

    why funny..is there inside MPV got Mr bean, or wahid senario…or somethingelse make you feel funny…hehehh…come on open youtube ..there lots funny stuff…

    kui kui….

    of course this site so boringggggg…

    no feedback owner EXORA….

    what i read all feedback not interesting ever ever…

    why i said thats…all feedback on flat road….

    no anybody go to genting sempah, highland…..bla bla…

    …..kg/Nm 9.48 8.3 7.94 8.27 8.65

    these i read from above data…exora the lowest torque….

    hmm…the CPS doesnt improve anything?????

    come on….i need more torque to climb karak highway…..

    on flat road ++ little highhill..of course

    with the HORSEPOWER…EXORA

    very powerfull, that what i want hear..good point….

    please dont comment on this….my son 8 years old already master about HP ..

    good acceleration…weight + mass…fast and furious exora….

    hmmm..jangan mara…..

    wanna trade in my old bimmer

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  • I think at this moment alots of ppl are holding back. Waiting for the first batch of 2500 units Exora on the road. Then look n see how r the feedback before booking it.

    If Proton delay much longer to deliver the 2500 units. P2 will got better chance to sell their MPV. Coz ppl dun worry so much on P2 MPV, it using Toyota Passo Sette……no much problem, only smaller n cost less. :P

    If that time I still dun get my exora, I will cancel my booking (loss RM500) and get this small MPV. The only thing is I just dun like its Aircon knob's control. :(

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  • Proton need to improve their delivery system faster…

    That is the problem now.

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  • Exorian on May 08, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    come on la..exora bookings are nearing the 10k mark.

    please be patient.. proton sure gonna ramp up production by now.

    yesterday saw 3 exoras, 1 black & 2 silver around shah alam area.

    this morning already saw 2 exoras at ELITE highway cruising at around 120kmh

    despite all the "bad reviews" about underpower & so on on the net, i think exora go on and win the malaysian hearts :)

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  • lalelulu on May 08, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    It's no surprised bout the proton mpv project where images of the mpv has leaked all over the internet before it was even launched. For the mpv, we'll see how proton tackle the market but proton soon gotta buck-up look out for the "rumours" about Perodua's plan to bring the Toyota baby MPV in. Thirdly, the name Exora, it's sounds more like a sports car than a mpv, ain't it? My personal opinion is that it doesn't fit in to the mpv line. As far as i know,… the Exora's name is closely based on the New Lotus Evora sports car name, google it if you would to see whether i'm bluffing or not. I heard there is a mpv naming session going on before the mpv were launch but why the hell did that person even had won the contest? Isn't this plagiarism? Anyway, naming a car isn't all about affiliating elements of flowers and other kind, all you need is "CREATIVITY"…

    In conclusion, I would say, "what the hell…" to the name of the mpv (Well, this is all my personal opinion…). Overall, Proton is still a proton, synonymous with cheap goods but we will see how things is going for them and hopefully will improve overtime.

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  • nabila on May 08, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    just met exora on the road…

    looks..average jeee….

    ok ok jaaaa…

    but why some people praise this mpv melambung2…like

    look angel….hmmm…weird

    to me..this mpv…ok….

    hmmmm

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  • farghmee on May 09, 2009 at 12:01 am

    [quote comment="236719"]Thirdly, the name Exora, it's sounds more like a sports car than a mpv, ain't it? My personal opinion is that it doesn't fit in to the mpv line. As far as i know,… the Exora's name is closely based on the New Lotus Evora sports car name, google it if you would to see whether i'm bluffing or not. I heard there is a mpv naming session going on before the mpv were launch but why the hell did that person even had won the contest? Isn't this plagiarism? Anyway, naming a car isn't all about affiliating elements of flowers and other kind, all you need is "CREATIVITY"…[/quote]

    plagiarism? hmmm…

    is it verbatim?

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  • Mat Jali on May 09, 2009 at 3:59 am

    Sedey la…interest dah naik plak…3.5% dah sekarang….tak jadi la beli MPV

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  • JC Ker on May 09, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    I m not a proton basher. My previous car was a Wira and my current car is a Proton Waja with Mitsubishi engine. The engine is fine, no problem so far. Unfortunately, I also sufferred the same fate as with other Waja owners…..malfunctioning power window, broken door handle…….etc…no need to elaborate as other Waja owners would know. I went to Proton Showroom the other day to have a look at the Exora as I was thinking of changing to a MPV as my kids were fast growing up. To be fair, I think the Exora is a nice MPV and the quality of the plastics are definitely better than previous Proton models. Will I consider buying it? The answer is NO. Sadly to say, proton was given 20 years and this should have been achieved long time ago. To continue driving a Proton make me feel like there is no improvement in life, as least to my friends and colleagues (who no longer drive any Proton).

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  • personally i drove exora twice, power is decent, its a 1.6, and i have to work a bit to take on others. the good point is it drives comfortably and direct, supple suspension but no body roll, its like driving a luxury big and comfortable car. to some point the engine relax a bit giving me 110 at 3000, i was supprised.

    the rear acc take a bit to cool. but when the temp droped, its well over the cabin.

    second row still can sit normal if thr front seat push back to the most. third row although sit with knee high but the back is comfortably raked.

    its way surpass the avanza for the price in every way,

    avanza pick up batter but you know its loosing breath at high and it takes all your concentrtion even at straight.

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  • T-Kun on May 10, 2009 at 11:11 am

    EXORA…

    WINS THE MALAYSIAN HEARTS!!!

    akhirnya,aku bangga jadi rakyat Malaysia~~~

    dan buat kali pertama aku kagum dengan kereta PROTON.

    Way to go PROTON!

    ADIOS!!

    (xsabar menunggu EXORA ku..)

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  • stroller on May 11, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    [quote comment="235802"]probably noname was actually replying the GUA KENA BEB's comments… but misquoted stroller comments… =p[/quote]

    in that case… my apology… thank u mat… may b for other my personal review u guys can visit my fren blog… mat know it…

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  • i actually went for a test drive. okla since its still a new car, not sure 5 years down the road what will happen.. god bless

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  • frustrated on May 17, 2009 at 6:14 am

    with just a 1.6l for such a big car i doubt it has enough power to move it not to mention with seven adults on board. besides, if it is not because of the absurd high import duty on non national cars, proton would not have survived in such a competitive market. we malaysian are deprived from choices. This is not fair.

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  • Adzim on May 18, 2009 at 12:05 am

    goddamnmit people! For f***'s sake just go and get a damn test drive of that car before even comment about it here based on your so-called theory! Many of you sure have no problem with a 1.5 Avanza.

    Get a goddamn test drive, capture it on video, and post it up somewhere so that everyone know you're talking sense. I'm not a proton lover (i drive a H)but the kind of criticism proton is getting ESPECIALLY FROM THIS website is far from being fair! I suddenly feel the need to address this issue.

    why dont you jeremy clarksons test your knowledge about driving by GO and TEST DRIVE IT, its more that just braking and speeding.

    Top Gear gives bad review for french cars, but you all have no problem with that. My uncle owns a peugeot, apart from the drivign experience, everything else is shit, but he has the guts to dissed proton.

    A friend of mine owns a Volvo, and sitting in it feels like a f***ing coffin.

    honda's cvt gearbox starts to jerk like a f***ing tourette syndrome after 100K mileage but again many of you have no problem with that infact, city was one of the best selling cars.believe me, i own both.

    And to many pessimist, its a damn MPV family vehicle NOT an effin sports car and it should be treated like one. Sure the acceleration sucks, sure the dashboard's plastic, again, these are the minor details that WILL be enhanced soon in the future

    In the meantime, the closest Toyota showroom is just right around the corner for you to indulge.

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  • MMX Core on May 21, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    [quote comment="238952"]with just a 1.6l for such a big car i doubt it has enough power to move it not to mention with seven adults on board. besides, if it is not because of the absurd high import duty on non national cars, proton would not have survived in such a competitive market. we malaysian are deprived from choices. This is not fair.[/quote]

    ———-

    you doubt? test drive already? this is typical 'bodoh sombong' malaysian who put their brain in their pungkok.

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  • GUA KENA BEB on May 30, 2009 at 9:14 am

    damn problem MPV….i have bought and used this MPV about 5 weeks already…..problems keep on arising from engine leaking to plastic materials , noisy brake , radio can't off eventhough i switch off the engine and yesterday my side mirror suddently drop..now i drive without a glass in the side mirror ( what a shame )…

    to the CEO , u don't need to shout there are 11,000 exora now on booking…..a damn shame of the EXORA quality ….i should be happy when i bought a brand new MPV but not to this bloody hell EXORA ..a cincai ( janji malaysia keluar MPV) attitude of this PROTON….

    now i am regeret of having this problem MPV ……damn hell MPV !!

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  • t.d bear on Jun 01, 2009 at 9:36 am

    [quote comment="242041"]damn problem MPV….i have bought and used this MPV about 5 weeks already…..problems keep on arising from engine leaking to plastic materials , noisy brake , radio can't off eventhough i switch off the engine and yesterday my side mirror suddently drop..now i drive without a glass in the side mirror ( what a shame )…

    to the CEO , u don't need to shout there are 11,000 exora now on booking…..a damn shame of the EXORA quality ….i should be happy when i bought a brand new MPV but not to this bloody hell EXORA ..a cincai ( janji malaysia keluar MPV) attitude of this PROTON….

    now i am regeret of having this problem MPV ……damn hell MPV !![/quote]

    Are u sure what u are said.Please sent pic for our review..or Dato allso want to see.. share with us…Please.

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  • Tengokaje.. on Jun 01, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    I second the proposal by t.d bear..

    GUA KENA BEB…

    Please share with us the problem by sending the picture in this forum.

    Salam..

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  • [quote comment="242041"]damn problem MPV….i have bought and used this MPV about 5 weeks already…..problems keep on arising from engine leaking to plastic materials , noisy brake , radio can't off eventhough i switch off the engine and yesterday my side mirror suddently drop..now i drive without a glass in the side mirror ( what a shame )…

    to the CEO , u don't need to shout there are 11,000 exora now on booking…..a damn shame of the EXORA quality ….i should be happy when i bought a brand new MPV but not to this bloody hell EXORA ..a cincai ( janji malaysia keluar MPV) attitude of this PROTON….

    now i am regeret of having this problem MPV ……damn hell MPV !![/quote]

    ——————–

    i just want to know, why u are too stupid.. why dont u call proton i care or SC? it is still under warranty.. i use honda civic 1.8, sometimes got problem..i just call them and they replace new one.. but i'm not too stupid like u… u 'married' with someone, then u 'kutuk2' your 'wife'. at the end of the day..u still using the car… huh..typical bodoh sombong malaysian always like this..

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  • eiman78 on Jun 02, 2009 at 7:51 am

    i think all the bad comment about exora is rubbish. i've been using exora for the past 2 weeks and praise to GOD everything is good. dont just simply condemn without really driving it. u should be proud malaysia can produce such a quality MPV which i'm sure it can compete with other existing MPV manufacturer. unless u have any hidden agenda behind all this bad comment.

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  • muryadi on Jun 02, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Ada lagi mamat "GUA KENA BEB" habis segala forum dia sebarkan berita palsu ni. Bila mintak bukti/gambar dan sebagainya terus senyap dan menghilangkan diri.

    Saya pasti dia ada agenda tersembunyinya sendiri.

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  • t.d bear on Jun 03, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    i think that this person so call 'GUA KENA BEB' is sale assistance that don't achived his target for 2 or 3 month and got hentam his boss.

    If not, please share with us of this issue, i love to see it.pleaseeeee

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  • Tengokaje.. on Jun 03, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    'GUA KENA BEB', I and may be PT forumers still waiting for the pic / proof regarding the defect of your EXORA. Like t.d bear said pleaseeeeee…. or even DSZ also want to look at it. Or may be like Ikeo said, just call i Care or just go to the SC where you got your EXORA.

    Salam..

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  • If you can show the evidance then partially I can believe u (need to do some investigation). U can link the evidance. If it is true … probably 1 in a thousand/million. If it is not then …….

    Right now .. most of my friends (Exorian) gave +ve comments. No major problem.

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  • Yus kl on Jun 06, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    i just get my Exora last wed & had drove to JB on that same day . So far so good , I have no complain at all . I drove to JB at the constant speed of about 100kmh to 110kmh , what really supprissing me was the FC , I get 7.8L/100km. It is about the same with my waja . For me Exora is comfortable and the power is enough for me . You can feel the power after 3000rpm that is the rpm You normally drive the car or overtaking other .

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  • Protonfanatics on Jun 12, 2009 at 10:24 am

    daniel said,

    April 15, 2009 @ 10:45 pm · Quote

    …the headlights from new jazz…the grill from usdm accord……

    rear also from another MPV, but cant recall which model……

    overall ugly. bad performance.

    another model to potong malaysian citizens.

    hopefully they potong enough off the lower class citizens and stop asking for goverment protection, so that all of us can finally own nice cars that we deserve

    ———————————————————–

    To all Proton bashers,

    It’s funny that as Malaysian, we always look at ourself with that feeling of inferior complex & always like to critizing & bashing our own car manufacturing company and car, however good they are. I believe Malaysians should be given an award for the most people in the whole wide world who have the most negative thinking about themselves & the ability of their own kind to produce a good car. Criticize, criticize, criticize & bashing, bashing, bashing our Proton company & car. I guess it’s the colonial mentality that we still inherited from the British, where the British are always the superior race, while we Malaysians are always the inferior ones.

    The British and Americans never never critize their own kind. Even when their national football sucks & didn’t manage to enter the last European Cup in 2008 or the World Cup. And when somebody foreign, either Italian, French or Spanish people criticizing the British or American national football team, they will defend their reputation like hell! Nobody mess with them. Even in reality their national football team sucks! That’s why they advance further & become world class & 1st class people.

    Whereas some Malaysians here have a 3rd world mentality, giving the harshest critic & bashing to their own fellow citizens working in Proton. Luckily, these few Malaysian citizens who receive the harshest critic & bashing from 3rd class mentality Malaysians; remain patience, preserve, work harder & someday would like to proof these 3rd Class mentality Malaysian fools that they are wrong.

    A good example is when the British Topgear, hosted by Jeremy Clarkson was making fun of the Perodua Kelisa. Instead of Malaysians defending our pride & joy, most of us join him in critizing & bashing the Perodua Kelisa. That’s what I call a colonial mentality!

    The British people are like that! They like to make fun of other people cause they think they are the superior race. With the price so cheap, Perodua Kelisa is design for a specific purpose. It is designed for people looking for cheap, low maintenance, convenience, easy parking, petrol saving & city driving environment. This car is not make for performance, speeding or racing! What do u expect? Buying one of the cheapest car & expect it to run like a Ferrari, handle like a Lotus & safety like a Volvo? DON’T compare Kelisa to a Ferrari or a Mitsubishi Evo stupid!

    If you want to compare a car, compare it apple to apple. Compare it within the same car class or similar price. Don’t compare an apple with a durian!

    In addition, the British bragging in TopGear about themselves & make fun of the Malaysian & Korean car manufacturers saying these cheap car are lousy & low quality.

    Guess what? Below are the list of defunct or bankrupted British car manufacturers:-

    Austin, Autovia, BMC, BLMC, British Leyland, Dawson, De Lorean Motor Company, Hillman, Humber, Jensen, Lea-Francis, MG Rover, Morris Motor Company, Nuffield, Riley, Rootes, Singer, Standard, Sterling, Sunbeam, Sunbeam-Talbot, Sunbeam-Talbot-Darracq, Talbot, Triumph Motor Company, Vanden Plas, Wolseley.

    In addition, what happen to British car manufacturers like Lotus, Jaguar, MINI, Land Rover & Aston Martin? All are sold & owned by foreign car manufacturer, or else these brands will go bankrupted like the ones above. Lotus sold to Proton Malaysia, Jaguar & Land Rover sold to Tata India, Mini to BMW Germany & Aston Martin sold to Middle East investors.

    Even GM & Chrysler went backrupted & had to be bailed out by the American government. In times like these, where most car manufacturers either went backrupted or scaled down their operation, Proton & Perodua are spending more money into research & marketing and entering into more new markets. Remember, Proton bought over Lotus, increasing our market share in Britain & other parts of the world each year, entering the IRC & WRC rally this year while other car manufacturers withdraw from it and is entering new markets like India & mainland Europe this year.

    I am wondering, why Proton & Perodua are still selling their cars in Britain & still didn’t go bankrupted or sold to other foreign owned companies like the others? Proton & Perodua should stop selling their cars in Britain by now. Hell, Proton should close shop now instead of entering new market in India & mainland Europe this year and entering the IRC rally this year. Proton might also enter the WRC rally next year while some manufacturer like Subaru is quitting it. And Proton can afford to hire Petter Solberg, the former WRC champion in 2003 as their driver.

    In addition, in its first rally debut in Europe, our “crappy” Proton Satria Neo S2000 managed a podium position on its first ever World Rally Championship outing, temporarily beating the current WRC Champion Sebastien Loeb in a full spec WRC Citroen C4, as well as other more experince and well known cars such as Peugeot, VW and Fiat. For your information, Sebastien Loeb is a five time WRC champion while the Proton Satria Neo S2000 driver, Niall McShea was only a former Production Car World Rally champion. And how on earth, our “unreliable” Proton Wira, driven by our own Karamjit Singh can won the FIA Production World Championship in 2002 and FIA Asia-Pacific Championship in 2004? Can some 3rd class mentality Malaysians please answer these questions?

    Remember, these Proton & Perodua cars might look ugly, lousy & unreliable, but the Brits are still buying it!!! And the numbers keep increasing every year! Especially times like these where the world is in recession. But you guys forget, these type of cars that Proton and Perodua are selling that are responsible for KILLING the British car manufacturers, until forcing the British car manufacturer either to go bankrupt or to be sold off to foreign owned company like the Brits like to poke fun at such as Proton. Remember, without Proton, Lotus might go bankrupt. MG Rover went bankrupted when Proton decided not to purchase it years ago. Hello, who is having the last laugh now?

    Automotive industry in the United Kingdom
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_motor_indust…

    So all Malaysians, please WAKE UP!! Don’t be 3rd class mentality Malaysian fools, but become World Class & 1st class mentality Malaysian geniuses. Defend Proton & Perodua cars like hell if any idiots want to critize or bash them.

    If you still think Proton car sucks, find yourself another country such as Bangladesh or some African countries like in Somalia. I believe you better belong in those countries…

    P/S: 3rd class mentality Malaysians, you are welcome to pack your bag & leave this country for good. We don’t need idiots like you in here!

    By Protonfanatic

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  • Hasni on Jun 13, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    Hi Protonfanatics,

    I totally and utterly agree with you!!!……I think who criticizes and bashes our own country national products are just Malaysian by name…..they are not patriotic at all and indeed two-faced people….and indeed these people will leave Malaysia if this country will ever be in trouble…….

    Sometimes I wonder how they can be Malaysians or born in Malaysia when they have this kind of mentality……

    Last , I just want to say…CONGRATULATION PROTON FOR THE NEW MPV!!!…I am buying one right now :-0

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  • cctung80 on Jun 14, 2009 at 6:40 am

    Nice car overall. But I'm not that confident about proton and their engines. Previous cars plenty of problem. Eg engine, power window, glove box, etc…It's like buying a problem back…Maybe should let other people who have the car and let them post a comment…If their cars can match Japanese cars, then it is worth buying…I will definitely buy it…

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  • Protonfanatics on Jun 14, 2009 at 7:18 am

    [quote comment="230744"]RM70k for this crap!!?

    Dont be dumb people! this mpv shud be priced below 50k! We poor poor malaysian are forced to pay for the stupid tax which we dont deserve![/quote]

    ————————————————————-

    To all Proton bashers,

    It’s funny that as Malaysians, we always look at ourselves with that feeling of inferior complex & always like to criticizing & bashing our own car manufacturing company and car, however good they are. I believe Malaysians should be given an award for the most people in the whole wide world who have the most negative thinking about themselves & the ability of their own kind to produce a good car. Criticize, criticize, criticize & bashing, bashing, bashing our Proton company & car. I guess it’s the colonial mentality that we still inherited from the British, where the British are always the superior race, while we Malaysians are always the inferior ones.

    The British and Americans never never criticize their own kind. Even when their national football team sucks & didn’t manage to enter the last European Cup in 2008 or the World Cup. And when foreigners, either Italian, French or Spanish people criticizing the British or American national football team, they will defend their reputation like hell! Even in reality their national football sucks! They will always defend their reputation, even though the reality is like that. They are even willing to fight & go war just to defend their reputation! Remember the England hooligans? The England hooligans always ran amok everytime their national football team or club football loses to a foreign national team or club football. The reason, maybe after the game, when an opposing team won the game, their supporters start to insult the England supporters. What happen next? Mayhem! Nobody mess with them! That’s why they advance further & become world class & 1st class people.

    Whereas some Malaysians here have a 3rd world mentality, giving the harshest critic & bashing to their own fellow citizens working in Proton. Luckily, these few Malaysian citizens who receive the harshest critic & bashing from 3rd class mentality Malaysians; remain patience, preserve, work harder & someday would like to prove these 3rd Class mentality Malaysian fools that they are wrong.

    A good example is when the British Topgear, hosted by Jeremy Clarkson was making fun of the Perodua Kelisa. Instead of Malaysians defending our pride & joy, most of us join him in cruising & bashing the Perodua Kelisa. That’s what I call a colonial mentality!

    The British people are like that! They like to make fun of other people cause they think they are the superior race. With the price so cheap, Perodua Kelisa is design for a specific purpose. It is designed for people looking for cheap, low maintenance, convenience, easy parking, petrol saving & city driving environment. This car is not make for performance, speeding or racing! What do u expect? Buying one of the cheapest car & expect it to run like a Ferrari, handle like a Lotus & safety like a Volvo? WTF! DON’T compare Kelisa to a Ferrari or a Mitsubishi Evo stupid!

    If you want to compare a car, compare it apple to apple. Compare it within the same car class or similar price. Don’t compare an apple with a durian!

    In addition, in Topgear, the British always bragging about themselves & make fun of the Malaysian & Korean car manufacturers saying these cheap car are lousy & low quality.

    Guess what? Below are the list of defunct or bankrupted British car manufacturers:-

    Austin, Autovia, BMC, BLMC, British Leyland, Dawson, De Lorean Motor Company, Hillman, Humber, Jensen, Lea-Francis, MG Rover, Morris Motor Company, Nuffield, Riley, Rootes, Singer, Standard, Sterling, Sunbeam, Sunbeam-Talbot, Sunbeam-Talbot-Darracq, Talbot, Triumph Motor Company, Vanden Plas, Wolseley.

    In addition, what happen to British car manufacturers like Lotus, Jaguar, MINI, Land Rover & Aston Martin? All are sold & owned by foreign car manufacturer, or else these brands will go bankrupted like the ones above. Lotus sold to Proton Malaysia, Jaguar & Land Rover sold to Tata India, Mini to BMW Germany & Aston Martin sold to Middle East investors.

    Even GM & Chrysler went bankrupted & had to be bailed out by the American government. In times like these, where most car manufacturers either went bankrupted or scaled down their operation, Proton & Perodua are spending more money into research & marketing and entering into more new markets. Remember, Proton bought over Lotus, increasing our market share in Britain & other parts of the world each year, entering the IRC & WRC rally this year while other car manufacturers withdraw from it and Proton is entering new markets like India & mainland Europe this year.

    I am wondering, why Proton & Perodua are still selling their cars in Britain & still didn’t go bankrupted or sold to other foreign owned companies like the others? Proton & Perodua should stop selling their cars in Britain by now. Hell, Proton should close shop now instead of entering new market in India & mainland Europe this year and entering the IRC rally this year. Proton might also enter the WRC rally next year while some manufacturer like Subaru is quitting it. And Proton can afford to hire Petter Solberg, the former WRC champion in 2003 as their driver.

    In addition, in its first rally debut in Europe, our “crappy” Proton Satria Neo S2000 managed a podium position on its first ever World Rally Championship outing, temporarily beating the current WRC Champion Sebastien Loeb in a full spec WRC Citroen C4, as well as other more experience and well known cars such as Peugeot, VW and Fiat. For your information, Sebastien Loeb is a five time WRC champion while the Proton Satria Neo S2000 driver, Niall McShea was only a former Production Car World Rally champion. And how on earth, our “unreliable” Proton Wira, driven by our own Karamjit Singh can won the FIA Production World Championship in 2002 and FIA Asia-Pacific Championship in 2004? Can some 3rd class mentality Malaysians please answer these questions?

    Remember, these Proton & Perodua cars might look ugly, lousy & unreliable, but the Brits are still buying it!!! And the numbers keep increasing every year! Especially times like these where the world is in recession. But you guys forget, these type of cars that Proton and Perodua are selling that are responsible for KILLING the British car manufacturers, until forcing the British car manufacturer either to go bankrupt or to be sold off to foreign owned company like Proton where the Brits like to poke fun at in Topgear and in their car magazine. Remember, without Proton, Lotus might go bankrupt. MG Rover went bankrupted when Proton decided not to purchase it years ago. Hello, who is having the last laugh now?

    Automotive industry in the United Kingdom
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_motor_indust…

    So all Malaysians, please WAKE UP!! Don’t be 3rd class mentality Malaysian fools, but become World Class & 1st class mentality Malaysian geniuses. DEFEND Proton & Perodua cars like hell if any idiots want to criticize or bash them. All nationalistic, patriotic & 1st class mentality Malaysians should bash these 3rd class mentality Malaysian morons like hell!

    If you just purchase a Proton or Perodua and facing some problems with the car, such as window stuck or air-con not working, just don’t come to the forum and complain about the car. You have the damn warranty right? Make use of the warranty & problem will be settle for free. Make use of your head, just don’t be a moron and and complain it over the internet. It just show your stupidity to the world that you don’t know about the damn warranty.

    If you are a Malaysian, and not proud of what Proton has achieve, like to give stupid comment about Proton for no obvious reasons & still think Proton car sucks, find yourself another country such as Bangladesh or some African countries like in Somalia. I believe you better belong in those countries…

    P/S: 3rd class mentality Malaysians, you are welcome to pack your bag & leave this country for good. We don’t need idiots like you in here!

    By Protonfanatic

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  • cctung80 on Jun 16, 2009 at 4:10 am

    I am just gonna make it short and simple. Firstly, why proton still survives it is because of government funding. I am not gonna talk about Perodua cause it is a good car in general. Everything that Proton does is using government funding, like rally, etc. Proton is the only car manufacturing company in Malaysia which still have cars in stock more than 1 year old.

    About waranty. I am not gonna waste my bloody time going to Proton everytime there is a problem. I have much better things to do.

    Do you know that eventhough Proton bought Lotus, Lotus is not using Campro engine. They are using Toyota engine. The best cars around the world are not European or American cars, but they are Japanese cars. Cheap and no problem.

    Next time pls get all your facts before shooting. If not you will make an ass of yourself.

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  • Yus kl on Jun 16, 2009 at 4:12 am

    Proud to be Malaysian and drive Exora .

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  • aspire on Jun 17, 2009 at 5:27 am

    Proton exora sebuah mpv terbaik…saya dah dapat sebuah..seronok..pemanduan menarik…

    Selesa..memang bagus proton. Syabas.

    Kepada yang x puas hati pd exora..senang je cakap..kau orang mana mampu nak beli kereta ini..so diam..jgn komen x bagus kalau x mampu beli.

    pakai pun tidak..

    Itu lah ,ini lah…ada pakai ke exora…so jgn komen benda yang anda tak ada..

    malu aje..cari duit lah..kalau nak beli..

    rasanya korang ni pakai moto aje kot…….

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  • looks like an MPV dr on Jun 17, 2009 at 6:28 am

    [quote comment="230215"]say goodbye to grand livina, avanza.

    those two models will defintely be affected by this newcomer.

    really surprising, the price and stuff offered.

    but quality wise, lets see how it holds up.[/quote]

    I dont want to downgrade proton since I used to drive around in a Saga and a Wira..but due to the expansion of my family members, I decided to have a bigger car..my choice? Well, I bought a Livina 2 months ago.

    People ask me why I dont wait for Exora or bought an Innova or Avanza for that matter…..well here is my answer :

    1. Power. The moment I test drove a Livina, Innova and Avanza (since there is no Exora to test drive at that time)..i fell in love straight away with Livina and place my order immediately.

    2. Handling. There is nothing compared to Electronic Power Steering and Ripple Control Suspension. Absolutely no match.

    3. Luxury. Well, if you choose Livina Luxury model, it gives you luxurious sensation.

    Then when an exora was available to be test driven, I test drove the car and I am relief because……

    I made the right decision!

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  • looks like an MPV dr on Jun 17, 2009 at 6:41 am

    [quote comment="244759"]I am just gonna make it short and simple. Firstly, why proton still survives it is because of government funding. I am not gonna talk about Perodua cause it is a good car in general. Everything that Proton does is using government funding, like rally, etc. Proton is the only car manufacturing company in Malaysia which still have cars in stock more than 1 year old.

    About waranty. I am not gonna waste my bloody time going to Proton everytime there is a problem. I have much better things to do.

    Do you know that eventhough Proton bought Lotus, Lotus is not using Campro engine. They are using Toyota engine. The best cars around the world are not European or American cars, but they are Japanese cars. Cheap and no problem.

    Next time pls get all your facts before shooting. If not you will make an ass of yourself.[/quote]

    I totally totally agree with you!

    To Protonfanatic – Karamjit Singh drove Proton Wira in WRC? my arse!…It was Mitsubishi Evo with Wira body you idiot!

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  • cctung80 on Jun 17, 2009 at 7:43 am

    I have seen Karamjit Singh WRC car at EON. It is a fully modified wira. They scrap the whole car leaving the body. It's not a wira anymore, they put EVO stuffs inside. For now, I would rather buy the new City rather than Exora because Proton has already created such a bad name for themselves eventhough Exora is good, people does not want to take the risk. Wasting time going to claim warranty. Nothing better to do izzit. Although the City is more expensive than the Exora, at least it does not give any problems and it is much more powerful. The Exora is 1.6L, which means that it consumes a lot of petrol which makes the engine not so efficient. For an MPV, it should at least have a 1.8L or 2.0L engine.

    aspire – Saya ada duit dan boleh beli Exora, tapi saya tak mau. Proton banyak problem dan saya tak ada masa pergi workshop. Selalu pergi workshop tak boleh cari duit. U ingat 1.6L punya engine dalam MPV ada kuasa tak. U kira u punya minyak, makan minyak kuat ke tak? Kalau mau beli kereta, mau guna otak sikit.

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  • Ms Observer on Jun 18, 2009 at 2:53 am

    Just wanna comment on En Ahmad Zahirani's post…

    I went to the Taman Ria, Sungai Petani Proton showroom to checkout the car and the service was excellent. Regardless of what I look like..or whether I am going to buy the car. The service is the same. And after surveying other Proton dealers, I found out that Taman Ria branch is the only one offering pensioners an opportunity to own the car..

    Basically u get M-line Exora (downpayment around rm1600) but pay mthly installments of the H-line variety. (Around rm800++/9yrs)

    Maybe En Ahmad Zahirani should drop by if he is still interested?

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  • aspire on Jun 19, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    saya hairan…x ada masalah proton exora seperti yang dinyatakan.

    kualiti pun ok. x ada masalah proton exora . minyak pun ok. tak lah banyak sangat.

    kalau korang risau pasal minyak…baik pakai basikal aje..senang cerita.

    kepada yang nak beli exora..teruskan..anda pasti terpesona.

    kepada pengkritik..malas saya nak layan…saya hanya layan orang yang ada pakai exora aje..jgn x pakai…bukan tahu pun…dengar cakap org..

    jang pastinya..proton banyak menunjukkan peningkatan dalam kualiti nya.

    bagus proton.

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  • muryadi on Jun 19, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    Hi Protonfanatic,

    I'm totally agree with u. Nice comments and very encouraging..

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  • Yus kl on Jun 21, 2009 at 12:21 am

    My Exora fuel consumption 7.8L/100km for long distance . For city drive 10.3L / 100km . Not much different compare to my other car that is 1.6 and 2.0 . It is how you drive that is more important . So far so good no complain at all . Superb handling and ride . Good AC system ,my kid that sit on the 3rd row sit did not have any complain .The enjine power is good and enough for me and I have drove Exora for more than 3800km until now . Before I buy Exora I did consider other mpv and test drive them but for me Exora is the best in term of value for money . I have been driving for 20 years that is since I get my first driving license and had use 8 cars from proton and other brand . In my opinion any car have their pro & cons , and any car have their own problem . It is up to you to make your own choice .

    I dont like to bash other of their own preference MPV or car . They have their own reason and it is their own money .

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  • srwkfren on Jun 22, 2009 at 7:42 am

    the car totally unerpowrfully la……….

    should be coming with 1.8cc also…..

    design ok ok only…….

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  • gen2lama on Jun 22, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    no need la…..

    go find other mpv….

    so far my exora gooooooooooooooooooood…

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  • my exora also ok maa ..

    went to genting already last week, pack wt family (2xl size).

    no need to unload.

    loan exora from somebody & try la. drive to believe.

    other mpv also ok. your money, your choice.

    DSZ … when is replacement model for waja? look old la.

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  • Carick on Jul 03, 2009 at 12:44 am

    gosh … Protonfanatic must be working for proton .

    proton pcs of junk selling superior high price ..

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  • Joe Higashi on Jul 07, 2009 at 5:22 am

    To those who own exora just wait for another 5 years…. no just 3 year more than your goooood mpv will give u nightmare hehhe. All new proton cars always good la but when it come to 3 years and above it will start giving u problem. But when compare to other manufactures most of them are more reliable. I own proton and bought it new,after using it more than 3 years its start giving me problems,radiator fan out, aircond compressor out, oil leaking, freak sound here n there…

    come on WTF is this!! The mileage only 90k, jarang guna, most of the time riding motorbike to office. Mcam ni punya kualiti pun nk support kaa? Proton treat their supporters like bloody fool.

    heheh 75k? should sell less than that laa bcoz so much to spend when the warranty finish

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  • kireen on Jul 15, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    proton,you are our proud…

    dont see at back,

    go further to achieve your aim.

    it just a beginning…

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  • Nakal on Aug 07, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    719 comments…

    paul, is this the most poular topic since u start this blog?

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  • after making comparison, i would go for grand livina.

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  • every car have advatage and disadvantage, but for the price of 75k,69,and 65k for MPV ….i think the winner is exora,,,clap3 for proton

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  • mamak on Sep 02, 2009 at 5:56 am

    kpd cctung80…nak jimat minyak naik basikal la…

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  • Nur Izrin on Oct 05, 2009 at 6:13 am

    hello there..

    need your help urgently. im a student in final year and took degree in mechanical eng. currently im doing my final year project about aerodynamic study of proton exora which i must determine drag and lift coefficient by two methods; wind tunnel testing and simulation (computational fluid dynamic fluent). i need the dimension (external) of exora to make a model using prototype machine and for simulation used. i do't know how to get the dimension. hope that u can help mie…tq

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  • zaid76 on Oct 07, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    ya..exora win base on comparison table…

    so last 2 today ago…i make decision after struggle 4 month think about MPV…

    I GO FOR GRAND LIVINA……

    i believe they got what i want…bye bye EXORA….

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  • unknown on Oct 19, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    haha zaid 76.kau cakap kau beli nissan grand livina kat sini buat ape.klau nak cakap,cakap kat grand livina punye site.klau kau beli exora baru cakap kat sini.masalah2.macam aku kesah je kau struggle empat bulan

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  • marol on Oct 21, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    korang tahu x brp harga exora prime ni…aku cadangnya nk booking ler sebuah…

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  • FARKBN on Dec 18, 2009 at 3:14 am

    judging from the response, Malaysians deserved what they get, expensive underpowered, overpriced cars. U guys a born suckers!

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  • malaysia memang bole on Dec 20, 2009 at 8:00 am

    FARKBN said,

    December 17, 2009 @ 7:14 pm

    judging from the response, Malaysians deserved what they get, expensive underpowered, overpriced cars. U guys a born suckers

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    including you,arsehole.from th response all over malaysia,only few of exora with quality problem.do some 'real' research before commenting here.people like you deserve to be call 'purely suckers'…….

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  • Jacko on Dec 21, 2009 at 3:28 am

    frens…do u noe the fc of tis exora 4 town driving?

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  • Aruchan on Jan 08, 2010 at 9:03 am

    Expat here…I think I just found a proton car that I will really like to buy…One of my colleague, a local bought this car recently and told me it's well worth the money…Tnx Mr Tan for this fairly comprehenssive review. Quite a handsome car with so many goodies…

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  • bystander on Jan 09, 2010 at 3:18 am

    protonfanatic must be writing his comment from tanjung rambutan…

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  • designer on Feb 21, 2010 at 10:06 am

    Look at Mitsubishi Lancer (CH MY07) ES station wagon.Are they sharing same chasis?

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  • designer on Feb 21, 2010 at 10:33 am

    With that price we deserve Mitsubishi Lancer CH MY07 ES.Im not sure if including 300% tax that applied in malaysia.Maybe around 200k++.The original market price quite the same to exora price.IF without tax and almost same price.Which one do you choose Mitsubishi Lancer CH MY07 ES or Proton Exora?

    You opinion please.

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  • customer on Feb 21, 2010 at 10:34 am

    With that price we deserve Mitsubishi Lancer CH MY07 ES.Im not sure if including 300% tax that applied in malaysia.Maybe around 200k++.The original market price quite the same to exora price.IF without tax and almost same price.Which one do you choose Mitsubishi Lancer CH MY07 ES or Proton Exora?

    You opinion please.

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  • suria on Feb 25, 2010 at 6:59 am

    Baru 10 hr beli Exora, dah pandu ke Kuala Kubu Baru, Johor. Selesa dan puas hati.

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  • kalai on Mar 06, 2010 at 4:51 am

    yes, it's a good looking car & worth buying. But at RM 75,000! Why Malaysian cars are so expensive even with all the protections. When can we buy Exora at RM 40,000? Our car prices are so weird. A small Alza at RM 55K, an Altis at 110K or a Toyota Rav at 140K. Every car in Malaysia is a moving house or bunglow.

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    • lolypop on Nov 03, 2010 at 4:38 pm

      Because malaysia house is so cheap!! thts why you need to earn more and someday all the house price with Million and during that time you complaining car so cheap and the housing price is dam expensive!!

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  • after review all the pros & cons comments above , I also want to buy EXORA laaaa. Already booked at Kota Bharu Eon yesterday.

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  • sunichi on Mar 12, 2010 at 7:38 am

    @cacm

    you won't regret to buy Exora, trust me

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  • Rahzib on Mar 23, 2010 at 8:33 am

    Too expensive and 1.6cc only ???

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  • My exora… very good… Oklah so far no problem…. Keep up good work Proton…

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  • new buyer on Apr 06, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    I’m thinking of buying Exora. Anyone can let me know on the fuel consumption? For 1st batch customer, do you face any problem ?

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  • noob_in_cars on May 24, 2010 at 11:34 am

    Paul & others,

    What does the final drive gear ratio mean? Btw does the 4th gear ratio for Auto mean it’s more fuel economical than 5th gear manual?

    Thanks,
    Noob_in_cars

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    • no, it isn’t, it’s not economical as manual, 4th gear auto is easier to use n this is because the gear changes it for u instead of ur hand changing it. Normally an auto transmission contributes about 3 or 4 mpg which is lesser than manual.

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  • marol on Jun 30, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    dah hampir sebulan pakai exora..white colour H-line…sangat selesa dan best….penat drive just tekan auto cruise..biar dia jalan sendiri…apa2pun kpd sesiapa yg nak beli exora tu x yah teragak2 la…kalau nk fkr rosak,toyota pun leh rosak..korang tgk baru2 ni…semua keluaran toyota ditarik balik sbb bermasalah..just enjoy dgn exora baru anda….speed laju.naik bukit xdak masalah punnnnn…ckp2 org jgn dilayan sgt…mrk dengki sbb mrk xdak exora….

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  • marol on Jun 30, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    exora unggul dlm kelasnye tersendiri…

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    • fazleena on Jul 03, 2010 at 3:04 pm

      yea betul..kita kena bangga dengan kereta buatan negara kita. Macam tu negara kita boleh lagi maju…. Beli la barangan buatan Malaysia kerana ia boleh membantu meningkatkan keuntungan negara kita sendiri. Contoh tengok negara Jepun…mereka maju dan terkenal kerana rakyat jelata mereka suka dengan barang buatan mereka sendiri. Jadi apa lagi kita patut ikut contoh yang baik….dengan itu kita boleh meningkatkan pasaran kita keluar negara….orang luar akan rasa lebih confident bila kita rakyat malaysia sendiri ramai menggunakan barangan buatan kita sendiri…

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  • Abraham Tawi on Sep 18, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    Before buying this car, my parents considered every expect there is to consider.

    First of all, practicality. Can someone with a height of 6 feet be seated at any seat with room to spare? That’s both Perodua Alza and Nissan Grand Livina out.

    Secondly, comfort and NVH. Is it comfortable for long journeys? That’s the Toyota Avanza out.

    Thirdly, price. No more than RM 100k. That’s both the Toyota Innova and Honda Freed out.

    Fourth, the overall fuel consumption and performance. With pricing below RM 80k for the high-line, you get what you buy. With RM85 for RON95, you get around 600km of driving. A mixture of highways and city roads. Not too bad considering its either loaded with people (5-6), or being revved hard.

    Last but not least, the creature comfort features. No MPV in its class has features to keep your right foot and family happy. Cruise control and DVD player.

    However to balance it out, the car do have some issues. The rear aircond vent is a bit flimsy so is the rear panel of the third row seat while the steering does wobble a bit driving above 130km/h. Despite that, this car has been driven to Cameron Highland twice, Bukit Tinggi and to Singapore too with no faults to report.

    Cheers :)

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  • marol on Sep 19, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    yes..you are right abraham…i love my white H-line exora….very desirable..nothing to talk much about my great car…so far so good…..

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  • confuseous on Nov 20, 2011 at 12:28 am

    i intend to buy mpv but is it true that this exora fuel consumption using ron 95 is 12.5litre/100km( town driving),that is about rm24/100km and the rpm at 110km/h is 3100rpm..my friend’s naza rondo fuel consumption is 10litre/100km( town driving ) and the rpm at 110km/h is 2700rpm.rondo price is 5k more than exora,but in long term buying rondo will give more saving compared to exora,anybody out there pls confirm

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    • titan on Jan 20, 2012 at 8:29 am

      what?the fc in brochure is 7.8l/100km,but you drive 12.5l/100km?. so that’s mean same with my Wira fc around 11-12l/100km..
      But if me it’s still ok for long term with the quality,price(include r/tax cheaper then other),spacious and performence.
      It’s cheaper then Wish or Stream and Innova,am i right?

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  • saya baru order exora CFE…test 3kali…berbukit..xberbukit..mmg power…

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  • Billy Lum on May 30, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    Overall. A good vehicle for family oriented use (we hv 2 kids + a baby) Enough room to bring the ‘whole house’ along for vacation at the beach :-)

    Fuel consumption: Nothing to shout about – just ‘ok’

    Mechanics : ABS module malfunctioned afdter 2.4 years! Service centre refuse to change module (was told it cost RM3,xxx) unless i can prove to them it has the extended warranty (i believed was part of the package when we purchased car in Jan 2010).

    Airvents for rear passengers : broken many times – 3rd replacement in place at various points. Proton mah!

    Steering wheel squeeks when turned. Needs oil? Hrmphh!

    Auto tilt detector can be a nuisance. What? Some equilibrium sensors on the car detect the tilt upward or downward .. when approching downhill – it ‘downshifts’ for you – good. Engine braking. But at times, it doesn’t ‘upshift’ when you are on ‘leveled road’ again. I hoodwink the sensors by shifting to neutral and then shift up to “D” again!

    DVD player uses RF for sound! Gotta tune your radio frequencies on the car RADIO to hv the audio track to be heard. That’s stupid. Can’t the factory-fitted ICE be hardwired directly, like a proper hi-fi sys. so we’de never need to fiddle with tuning buttons. Besides, the number of RADIO stations on FM is so closely spaced – finding a ‘free’ spot is next to impossible. The clashing frequencies makes DVD viewing an annoying experience, with all the ‘crackle and pops’

    HP/torque : such a “meaty” car (read : lots of metal) makes the HP/Nm depart. blush. Don’t expect rubber-burning sprints or power-overtaking capabilities.

    Thank you

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  • Billy thanks for sharing some of your driving experience/issues here. I am comparing the EXORA BOLD CFE and Toyota Avanza 2012. Anyone knows the problem for Azanza? If the running cost and spare part is lower for Avanza, I would rather choose Avanza. Any comment?

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  • Paul,

    I need your help. My Exora warranty has expired but I am having problem with radiator fan and etc. First, whenever I turn off my car engine, the radiator fan kept running. Sent to the Proton service centre, they couldn’t find the problem and gave me the standard answer – it is normal for the fan to cool down the engine when you off the engine. After a while, it was the water pump that is not working causing the engine to overheat and I got it changed. Next, it happen again, the fan refused to go off until I manually plug the radiator fuse. Send to a chinaman mechanic, found that the radiator thermostat is not working and caused overheating which resulted my fuse box wiring melted. Got it fixed and now the same problem is back.

    Do you have any idea what is happening and where to get it fixed?

    Thanks.

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  • jam tangan automatic on Dec 02, 2013 at 10:48 am

    It is just a way of wrapping old functionality into a far better type element. You don’t need to have every thing in it to make a profitable product. Just a notification that you have received an e-mail just isn’t the right feature to get a smartwatch. The richer the screen, the extra the functions, but is not it much more easy (and informative) to check social network notifications and respond to them working with our smartphones? Specifically when the concern of battery life isn’t going to disappear.

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