We were fortunate enough to be invited to a preview of the new Proton P3-90A, which is supposed to be a replacement for the Proton Waja, and positioned above the Proton Persona in the Proton product line-up. It’s no secret by now that this new model is based on the current generation Mitsubishi Lancer.
Look after the jump for our first impressions based on the preview drive.
The car will be ‘soft launched’ tomorrow, which means the name will be unveiled and bookings will be opened. There will be 3 models – a 1.8 litre manual, a 1.8 litre CVT and a 2.0 litre CVT. All three models use Mitsubishi engines from the 4B family, with the 1.8 litre using the 4B10 and the 2.0 litre using the 4B11. Of course, many of you probably know the name of the car already as sales brochures have been scanned and unleashed onto the internet, possibly by sales personnel eager to secure bookings tomorrow.
The case for a new Proton Waja replacement
Proton’s most expensive car right now (other than special editions and the Perdana) is the Proton Exora, which retails at RM76,998 for the Exora MC H-Line. There are various reasons for Proton to introduce a new Waja. Right now, anyone who manages to break beyond the RM60k affordability barrier for a passenger sedan will probably step up to the RM80k to RM100k range, which are currently dominated by the two Japanese brands and complemented by various other makes.
The new P3-90A will allow Proton to offer a model to those wanting to upgrade to something better and bigger than the current Saga, Persona or Waja that they have. It will allow Proton to increase its customer retention as the budget of the customer increases.
And of course, Proton has to serve the Malaysian government, the government’s fleet manager SPANCO, and other fleet buyers such as the police.
Badge engineering a Mitsubishi product – have we gone backwards?
Since news first broke of a new Waja replacement car based on a Mitsubishi Lancer, Proton has undergone much criticism as consumers are perceiving this as the national car company stepping backwards. This is understandable as most laymen who do not track the auto industry as closely as enthusiasts would not know that the modern trend is to badge engineer your non-core models (or even your core models!) to save on development costs so that cash can be focused on core models.
What they know is that Proton started off rebadging Mitsubishis – the Lancer in particular – and now they are back to rebadging a Lancer. In their minds, they’re probably asking what is the point of a national carmaker then, especially one that is perceived to be the reason that the Japanese brands that they want to buy are so expensive?
Datuk Syed Zainal told us at the post-drive media roundtable that it was not an easy decision for Proton to decide to use a reengineered Lancer for the new P3-90A. Not only will the rakyat grill them but there will surely be drama in the Parliament. However, it was a business decision, and a rational one.
Here’s why – at the recent Vios launch, UMW Toyota announced that it was aiming to sell 2,700 units of the Vios a month. The Vios starts at a lower price than the P3-90A – it has a smaller engine and a smaller B-segment body compared to the P3-90A’s C-segment body and 1.8 litre as well as 2.0 litre engines. The amount of consumers who will have accessibility/affordability of car will be lower, and it also has to compete with plenty of competitors such as the Kia Forte along with the B-segment Japanese makes.
Proton aims to sell less than 2,000 units a month of the new Waja replacement. According to DSZ, it would not be wise to invest a big sum of money to develop a new model for the Waja replacement’s segment and price range for a relatively low sales volume. Proton cannot repeat the mistakes of its past, investing a huge amount of money to sell models that ended up not having a very high volume – it would take forever for the entire product to start turning a profit!
According to Datuk Syed Zainal, Proton intends to focus its R&D budget on its core models. Proton is still recovering from its “dark days” and the new management led by Datuk Syed Zainal and Datuk Nadzmi Salleh is still working hard to bring the company to where it once was. It needs to re-invest its precious profits into the high volume products which are cars like the Saga and the Persona replacement, which DSZ referred to as the Persona R. The Persona R is already under development and work on the next generation Saga has to start pretty soon if not already as the Saga will likely get its mid-life facelift end of this year or early next year.
This logic is not uncommon in the industry. Aston Martin is rebadging the Toyota iQ as the kind of car that Cygnet is not a core Aston Martin model. Dodge makes big American type of cars and it is not good with small B-segment cars thus it has rebadged the Hyundai Accent as the Dodge Attitude. Honda wasn’t very good at SUVs in the past so it rebadged a Land Rover Discovery Series I as an early Honda Crossroad before the CR-V ever existed. The modern Ford Ka shares platform with the modern Fiat 500, and Ford and Fiat do not share any stake in each other.
Volkswagen sells a large minivan in the US known as the Volkswagen Routan and it’s based on a Chrysler Town & Country, which is also sold as a Dodge as the Grand Caravan. Chrysler and Dodge are owned by the same company but Volkswagen has no shareholding connection with the American company. Coming back to Mitsubishi – they’ve supplied the i-MiEV electric car as well as the Mitsubishi Outlander to PSA Peugeot Citroen. The Outlander is sold as the Peugeot 4007 and the Citroen C-Crosser.
The Lancer-based Waja replacement is designed to be an interim model to fill in the gap for the need of a product in its segment without having to invest heavily. Proton intends for it to be a “place holder” model to keep Proton in a required market segment until it has the resources to develop a permanent solution to serve the segment. Development of the new P3-90A took 17 months compared to 24 months if developed internally. The local vendor ecosystem is also supported as Proton will start off with 40% local content shortly after launch, with the aims to increase it to about 65% within a year.
Proton shopped around for various cars to be considered as the base for the P3-90A and Mitsubishi was picked because they’ve been traditional partners for the last 25 years thus they already have some form of history together. The Perdana has stopped production in March 2010 BTW!
What are the differences between the P3-90A and the Lancer?
The entire front end has changed, with the Proton version carrying an “inverted” Lancer grille. The Proton version looks more similar to the original Lancer as compared to the Taiwanese market Lancer Fortis, which in my opinion had softened the look of the Lancer too much. Unlike the Taiwanese styling exercise, for the P3-90A the same reflector headlamps of the Lancer remains.
At the rear end, there is a new rear bumper that has an integrated diffuser-like design. Tail lamps are the same as the Lancer. The 2.0 CVT model gets a small bootlid spoiler to differentiate it from the 1.8 litre models. Speaking of models, while the Lancer only comes with a 2.0 litre engine mated to a CVT here in Malaysia with two trim levels – EX and GT, for Proton there are 3 variants, all with different engine and gearbox combinations as well as equipment levels.
The baseline model will be the 1.8L model with 143 PS and 177Nm of torque. This is mated to a 5-speed manual transmission. The mid-range model is also a 1.8L model but with a CVT transmission instead of a manual. The CVT on this model has a manual shift mode but only via the gear lever – there are no column mounted paddle shifts on this model. The top of the line does come with the paddle shifts, and has a 2.0L engine to match the CVT transmission. All of these engines are Mitsubishi GEMA 4B family engines, in which the base block are shared with Chrysler as well as Hyundai-Kia. I wrote quite a detailed article in the past about the 4B engines so you can refer to that story here: The new 4B11 Engine.
Mitsubishi did not allow Proton to touch the engine and the ECU of the Lancer, so everything is exactly the same as per supplied by Mitsubishi. But as Proton has changed the front end look of the car, it is able to do certain things such as install air guides for the transmission cooler, so that the CVT transmission fluid will be less likely to overheat. At the Lancer’s media drive years back, driving at very high speeds for prolonged periods of time (not something we’d do everyday to be honest) resulted in the gearbox heating up over a certain level which then resulted in the car cutting power and displaying an overheat warning on the multi-info display in order to protect the gearbox from being damaged.
Proton’s engineers were very well aware of this during their testing so they thought of a solution to fix it. Proton’s improvement of the airflow into the engine bay has given more air cooling for the transmission cooler, intending to help prevent the transmission from overheating.
Mitsubishi was also quite reluctant to let Proton do anything of the suspension of the car at first, so we almost got a vanilla Lancer without any “Lotus DNA” but later in the development process Proton managed to convince them to let them modify the settings. However it was already quite some time into the development process at that point, but the ride and handling engineers at Proton still managed to work their magic with the P3-90A. The absorber and spring settings are completely different, and there are also some small changes to the suspension bushes. Most of the work was on the roll and vertical rates. Proton matched all of this with 16 inch wheels wrapped with Continental CC5 silica compound tyres to maintain ride comfort. I’m sure everyone will be seriously curious to find out how much different a car can feel just with different suspension settings.
How does the P3-90A drive?
Naturally the 1.8 litre manual felt like the best driver’s car of the lot. The steering somehow felt more precise and had better feedback compared to the other models. According to Proton, the entire setup was designed mainly on the 1.8L manual version so that could be why it felt sharper, and it could also be that the 1.8L manual had a lighter front end compared to the models with the presumably heavier CVT transmission and even the larger engine block for the 2.0L model.
Ride comfort is better than the Lancer GT, because of the different tyres used, and the P3-90A just had a natural stability that’s hard to unsettle even at the extremes, and that helps the driver feel so much more confident in controlling the vehicle. I didn’t feel any issues with the 5 gear ratios of the manual transmission nor the way the gears slotted into position so I suppose if I don’t feel annoyed they should be properly spread. The clutch is also light and easy to control. I think the model I like the most is the manual.
The roads down from Genting and the Karak Highway blurred by as the long sweeping corners were taken at high speeds and I noticed that never once did I feel the car was about to lose control and there was only occasional times where the tyres started to protest. The Lancer GT drives well but a lot agree that its 18 inch Yokohama Advans contributing to a lot of the work while the P3-90A has its good ride and handling built into the chassis settings and once you have a good base from there it’s hard to go wrong! The Lancer GT feels a little stiffer and it has slightly less body roll than the P3-90A but the P3-90A remains very composed.
I didn’t get to drive the 1.8L CVT but we’ll bring you impressions of that after the official media test drive at the end of this month. The 2.0L CVT model didn’t feel very much different from the Lancer that we can already buy now, and you really have to get used to the way the CVT slips up the rev range without any progress before suddenly ‘locking up’ and increasing its forward momentum. CVTs are of course a good thing engineering-wise as it allows the engine to be in its most optimum rev range for the kind of driving you want but no doubt eager drivers are going to be using the paddle shifters a lot. The car’s progress just feels so much better in the virtual 6-speed manual mode although technically it’s less efficient to drive that way.
Other details?
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I can’t comment on the interior quality and texture yet as the cars were pre-production cars and the interior dashboard had all the necessary shapes but were “flat”. Think of it more like a mock up. I guess I’ll find out the actual interior look at the launch. There are four colour options – red, silver, white and black. I think they all look pretty good and I’m torn between the red and black.
In terms of safety features – ALL models have dual airbags and ABS brakes.
Booking opens tomorrow when the name is unveiled and booking fee is RM1,000.
If I missed anything you want to know feel free to ask in the comments and I’ll do my best to answer everything, if it’s something I can answer.
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Great, hope to see some interior pictures too!
80k min..then i rather buy honda city or toyota vios….
bro….with that price (8ok) u got 1.8cc car….compare to honda city or toyota vios 1.5cc engine….sendiri fikir ler bro…
:) forgive him bro, some people likes to compare apple with bananas
mitsu lancer GT at langkawi only cost 71k…how u gonna explain that??!
umnosukapitnah, majoriti rakyat msia beli kreta bukan kat langkawi. ape benda lah kau cite ni. org mcm hang boleh ler pg bli smp kat langkawi sana. tp org selatan tak sanggup aih nak pi sana semata2 angkut proton sebijik. kalau semua org pk cam hang, bungkuih dah proton. jgn kata proton, mercedes pun bangkrap der, kalau semua org pi bli kreta kat langkawi. ramai lah rakyat msia pakai bentley kalau mcm tu. hahahaha. pikiaq dulu der, sebelum ckp.
bro, you can buy cheap car at Langkawi, but consideration of buying house I bet on you its more expensive than buying a apartment at Ampang. Nothing special nowadays..
woi gila..80k import car interest berapa???ni 80k 3.9 bos interest dia..apa la..ko ingat ko nak beli cash ke??haha
lol….excellent reply :)
umnosukopitnah..kete kat langkawi murah sbb xde tax,duty free zone. ko beli..pakai kat sana, dpt la rege tu.murah. cuba ko beli..pastu ko bwk masuk semenanjung. sanggup ke bayar tax bai..? ngops tol.prffttttt
Ye la..forgive him bro…budak baru keluar sekolah
aiya… for that price , u probably get a car that u need to send in factory for repair more often then the japanese car…. pity u la … and the 1.8L engine, i doubt about the output and reliability….. u thought mitsubishi will be that stupid , let us “copy” entirely their lancer? there must be some different in their engine , gearbox, and maybe their body construction….. think about it , they wont bring their death , just for u a small malaysian carmaker… please… noob
Aiya kalo jual harga seperti di Langkawi, Proton tak akan bankrap….tetapi laig teruk kesan sampingan…nanti cukai kita kena dinaikkan.
Biar macam sekarang pun ok, bole pilih Pesona atau Exora kalau Inspi terlalu mahal.
RM 80k untuk model yg paling murah shj.
eee…..gerom btol aku baca sstgh komen2 tu…..ade ke duk kompare ngan harga kat langkawi…..nak sgt pakai mitsu rm71k tu kat lgkawi pi lah idup kat langkawi….. nnt tym kene pindah duk kat semenanjung ka , sabah ka , sarawak ka, botak kepala lah kene bayar cukai…..kete mmg le murah tapi mana boleh bermaustatin kat bumi semenanjung ker,sabah ker,,,srwak ker..kat pulau tu je lah dia boleh bmstautin…..aiyaaa…apada….pi lah beli kete tu kat langkawi..kalau nak murah sgt
T & H die hard n proton basher… hard to change the mentality..
umnosukopitnah…..71k in langkawi….and me stay in labuan cost RM72k only…but be realistic la man langkawi/labuan free duty…try bring out from langkawi and calculate the tax….even the tax will be RM32k (and remember tax have to pay in cash)…then…your RM72k car + tax RM32k = RM104k…hahaa..some more u pay RM32k CASH for tax…just imagine with that RM32k if you pay Downpayment for the same car outside Langkawi/labuan which give you more benefit in less payment year and loan and interest? adoiiii..ada jugak org minda camni…
True but those 1.5’s are no ordinary engine. The honda for example has a powerful120ps engine with i-vtec technology and 5 speed automatic. It might lose a bit in terms of power compared to the 1.8 mitsi’s engine but the honda clearly has much better fuel consumption.
fc depends on how strong is ur right foot, not the engine…
Don’t forget to mention the after sales service from Honda.Way better than Proton even if you buy a Perdana.
perdana is mnore better la, 2.0 with V6 engine, and u still say vios or city better? pls la, malaysia cars also did’t worse as u though !!!! :/
u want good fc go buy viva 1.0 la wei
want good FC, ride kapcai la wei…
full tank only RM6…
oh wow cool you can read a brochure!
u want better fc. use bicycle. no need fuel at all. will not break down.
“fc depends on how strong is ur right foot, not the engine…”
You mean that if I drive a 6.0 litre Bentley Continental Flying Spur with a light foot I can easily get fuel consumption as good as err… a 660cc Kancil?
C’mon man!! FC relies heavily on the engine itself. Your right foot is just part of it.
Adoi.. Lagi mau bising pasal fc ka??? What fuel guzzler??? Those who buy this Inspira can afford it la…. someone have viva, then he borrow someone Pajero, then he will worried about fc…. For the pajero owner, that is not a problem.. coz they can afford it… Kamon la… if we use viva, just think about our viva fc, if we use volvo, just think about our volvo… i’m using 2.0 Peugeot, so i only think about my Peugeot fc… The other car fc does not effect our money… only our car will effect our pocket.. Ikut taraf hidup la… orang kalo pakai viva, pastu naik gen2, mesti dia risau pasal minyak, sebab taraf hidup dia sesuai untuk minyak viva je… bagi yg naik perdana pulak, kalo naik gen2, dia xkan rasa apa2, sebab taraf hidup dia lain… Kesimpulannya, kita beli kereta, ikutlah kemampuan diri sendiri…. Kalau kita mampu pakai kancil, pakai la kancil, jgn nak beli waja, Kalau kita mampu pakai mercedes beli la mercedes… Memang la kalau ikutkan hati, semua orang nak beli kereta idaman hati… Tapi kita kena la ukur baju di badan sendiri.. memang la x fair, tapi ni la hakikat dunia… Yg jadi masaalah ni bila orang yg sepatutnya pakai Kancil, xnak pakai kancil, dia pi beli
spectra… tu yg jadi masaalah tu.. Sebab terlalu ikut nafsu… Xsalah kita pakai kancil, kereta jugak. selamat jugak kalo drive baik2… Hujan x basah… Kalau rasa sempit tu beli la kereta lain, tapi harga biarla dalam lingkungan kancil… Beli la Wira 1.3 secondhand.., kos servis pon x lari jauh, fc pon x lari jauh.. Kalo bagi alasan, orang lain naik kereta selesa, kita pon nak jugak… tapi kena la pikir, kita hidup bukan dalam kereta… kalo dalam kereta ja selesa, tapi tido malam x lena pikir bayar kereta ngan duit minyak, x guna jugak..
He jus statin wat he would rather do wif 80k. Some ppl go wif engine, some would rather go for brand perception. Most people mentality is if they can afford a jap brand, y would they buy a local brand for the same price. Kenapa semua marah sangat?
definately agree with mars
Well, this particular blog entry talks about proton’s new car. This and that. That and this. It’s not about what kind of car you can get for 80k. It’s about a particular car and what you get with it. No mention about the exact price also.
Suddenly a joker tells the world what he wants to do with his 80k. Why here? Why? And it’s the first comment!!! Did he even read the article or he just wanted to be the first poster?
Of course la people get mad. People were talking about pisang and the nice thing you can do with it: pisang goreng, lepat, pengat, kek pisang etc etc… suddenly one snobbish id10t says “I like apple better” in a fake London accent.
And you ask “why you mad bro?” ???
its okay bro, this bro’s gotta learn how to crunch in numbers and calculate pound for pound value..
well, if it aint due to tax, vios and city would cost as much as waja…
Vios is suck.. I not anti-toyota.. I love toyota Hiace so much.. Seriously… I like Honda city… I like Honda Jazz… But, if i need to choose, i’ll go for Inspira or Forte… or mbe Avante…
so wat if 1.5 cc? at least the car is not copy n paste n the quality is confirm 100% better than thundercat logo proton….
Test drive first la bro… I’m sure even Jeremy Clarkson will approve of the Proton more…
POWERRRRR~~~~
will he? i doubt it. JC wont even want to give even a damn good point and will only highlight all the bad points on Malaysian cars. looks like this brit wont even the over the fact that their proud Lotus is in hands of Malaysian company.
People like you are just biased. When Hyundai/Kia were rubbish a few years ago, he pointed that out. But now, when they have improved greatly, there is no more so called bashing from him anymore!
Heck, a Kia is their Reasonably Priced Car.
But one reason why he won’t give good comments about this car is because it’s rebadged. Not saying it’s a bad thing, but most of the engineering is by Mitsubishi, so he’ll probably give THEM credit.
Well at least James May did comment on Persona one of the best marque from SEA and inform that Proton are going to the right direction if you the fact in TG way.
JC will approve coz overall peformance done by mitsubishi not proton…. handling lotus? then what else? wana cooment abt the quality sorry to proton they sux…. sux sux sux…. sucking out our malaysian money! 60% mitsubishi 40% proton for sure JC will say OK….. once they tune more with the engine more comments to come frm him….. now itself the inspira engine been tuned compare to original lancer… imagine what else they would have done…. even had modified the suspension…. maybe the original can last 203 years more than the proton modified suspension….
i think he is one proud honda city owner untill he know about this wajalancer price.
aiyo
++ compare to vios and city..++
+good high performance ori Mitsubishi engine
+ good CVT transmission
+ lotus DNA
+ 5 star crash test
+ 2 years free service! ++ free labour and free parts!!
++ how u can get this on a dugong vios and city?
then what happens after two years ? power window rosak….door handle rosak…..butang radio rosak……sini rosak sana rosak…..
o,before you label me a “diehard japanese car”…..i would love to inform u that i dont own a car…..
i prefer public transportation,especially the train,bus not safe….long live KTM !!
“o,before you label me a “diehard japanese car”…..i would love to inform u that i dont own a car…..”
then, it more obvious that you shouldnt give comment in first place. it’s not from your experience nor it make any sense.
since you dont own any car, and prefer to take public transport, you sir, are an arse. you are more worst than owners who bash other brand and owners who bash their own brand.
This is my 7 year using proton car (Gen2). I dont have a major problem with my car. So is that means proton is not a good car. If you have a problem you may consider that unlucky. Give it I try first then you can comment about that. One more thing even good car also have a problem exp BMW and Honda at the end the call back their car for inspection.
releks la bro…all car got their own defect..why just looking at proton? basher la lu beb…
my 3 years neo..just change the front brake pad after 2year plus usage and havent change yet the rear pad till now cz still can be use….but my 2008 accord…rear brake pad have to change after 1 year usage…
3 years used neo..never got any major complain and fault..but my accord….electric seat faulty after a month use….steereng problem and haih now 2 years dah my electric seat still make a problem again….so…which one worth the value? RM48k neo or RM172k accord?
so..jangan la nampak buruk kat proton saje bro…
nxid – not owning one doesn’t mean not driven or sit in one before. It’s a forum ff s!! anyone can comment.
xord – oh dear!
shi – did anyone mentioned anything about BMW or a Honda has got no problem? So from now on anyone who owns a problematic Proton is just simply “unlucky”. That’s your reason for Proton being a good car?
There is nothing wrong with someone who prefers the public transport and in this forum about Proton, you get 1 basher and 5 lovers. When it’s about a Jap car, these lovers will turn basher!
By the way, I love my 12yr old Proton.
lol @ resident of moronia, how to get 5-star crash test with only TWO/DUA/2 airbags??? Stoopid potong lover.
Just because its a rebadged Lancer.
It doesn’t meant that the waja is a 5 star crash test.
Assembly line is different. All the steps and procedures are also different.
Challenge me, Proton…
Go ahead and take the Euro crash test with these WAJAs…..
See whether u get the same rating as the Mitsubishi Lancer or not……
cannot take euro crash test if didn’t sell at europe la bro
For your info….
EXORA is been awarded Euro NCAP 4 star
Exora currently not in sale in Europe…
I don’t about Exora have been awarded Euro NCAP 4 star
but i heard they has been tested to be similar/ equal to euro NCAP 4 star
even they are not tested in Europe. i think at south America la..
I think you should also look at whether the Perodua, Toyota and Honda manufactured here meets those status as well to be fair. Skin may be the same, but by reducing parts quality and number of welds, they save time and money. Malaysia belum lagi ada NCAP standard benchmark. You cant compare cars made in Malaysia CKD and their brothers in Japan and European Union. Lain factory, lain suppliers.
btw it’s not Lotus DNA, Mitsu didn’t wanna let Proton do anything to the suspensions, cept a little into production tweaking.
dont forget..40% proton DNA maaa..cit!!
compare cabin space will do, spend 80k to get a city / vios kotak mancis space for wat?
hahahaha…why would u buy a city or vios…hahahaha.. incomparable la bro…hahhaa…different league of car, this is c-sagment car…civic or altis can la compare…those are 100k, this u get 80k….forte also a good competitor…
i think forte is the best to compare…
agree with u bro…
sme ppl dnt know how to cmpare
setuju dengan exlive3, kenapa pulak nak compare P3-90A dengan Vios @ City…Vios n City in different sagment…kalau nak compare kenalah sagmen yg betul seperti Civic, Altis, Forte
they are comparing price of vios and waja replacement model. without seeing the car class.
i will rather go for new waja.
why?
bigger engine(more power and speed)
bigger space
about same price as vios@city.
2 year warraty..
and most of all its engine is mitsubishi..
For H & T Lovers, pls think deeply…do they use Aluminium Engine?
The answer is NO, and proton is using it with CVT technoloy…
C’mon, pls compare Nasi Lemak to Nasi Lemak, not Roti Canai…
Its different. Btw, I am a 10 year old Wira A/B user, my car clocked 220,500km already, no major issue except battery, tyre & wiper wear & tear.
Who say Proton can’t be reliable? I have friend whose brand new Beemer 525i completely stalled after 2 days driving out from showroom…due to electronic failure….what a shame..
Compare apple to apple, new waja must compare to the likes like toyota altis, honda civic, kia forte, nissan syphly, hyundai elantra. Not compare to vios or city, different segment !!!!!!!!! Be reasonable in comparison
i owned waja now… still love waja even the price is going down now… but.. i still can speeding… at least 190km/hr maa… sonang2 jo dapt eeiii… if i got this new waja replacement… first thing i do is… test the engine… hahhaha….
Forte 0-100 km/h plan skit then vios
So?
me too!
Now we heard Mr. Bean talking.
typical malaysian thinking..sceptical to all local produce eventhough it is originated from well known name. i would love to see more about this new waja replacement model. i will compare with my 80k vios. bitter or not, if they are better than my vios, i will say “yes, they are better than mine”. no need to say that your vios or honda city superior than this model because at the first place, you had not neither see that nor test drive the car. how could you justify it all without knowledge? wait and see first larr..let Paul test drive and give comment. at least we have the idea of that car. then only you can say..yahh my vios or city is much better, if it is true lah. otherwise, shut your mouth and take your family to enjoy sate kajang..
dude, talk so much, let’s see you put your money where your mouth is and buy this ‘car’ then. stoopid potong lover, asking people to shut their mouth.
wtf r u talking about ? did he say he loves proton or anything like that ? All he said is unless u have driven the car, dont simply say things bout it. How would u like it if i say you’re an idiot simply by looking at ur nickname ?
Sate kajang susah nak parking …. try sate hj samuri @ presint 16 putrajaya … easier a bit
I heard there also got sate kajang in Silicon Valley, isn’t?
too positive thinking i’m afraid it might ended u with the great sadness..y do u armeng compare with vios?its yes that vios is similiar price range, but how much interest bank of vios???this 80k proton 1.8 with proton emblem, pay 10 percent d/p still u need to pay rm901 for 9 years (3.9%) interest…so how?can u explain to me? then vios also u would pay 900 but for 7 years..can u see wat the different?even thou im a mitsu fan, but im still abit dissapointed with price proton and its obvious it is to “jaga” Persona, gen2 and Neo CPS. for rm901 per month for 9 years i suggest Mitsu fan to wwait for Next edition Lancer..sure the gearbox and handling will be improve..by the way, do u know guys the body and chassis Lancer is verry2 low quality if u cmpare with Evo 10..but then, dun compare to Honda civic as Honda will launch new edition Civic in 2011 to beat Altis and Sonata.tq
high interest is BANK decision, not P1. you shoot wrong people for wrong fault.
Actually the Evo X and Lancer share the same chassis….. whats different is the engine, trim lvl, equipments etc… As far as i know the the chassis or should i say the body structure is the same….
how much interest for VIOS bro?
i heard this insider news from somewhere else. proton gonna stop production for inspira if it still cant meet the quota..
and today news July 24th, an inspira malay owner died due to tyre burst..
and i wanna to correct some mistake about the interest part- 2.33 lowest interest for 5 years, 2.67 for 7 years and 2.89 for 9 years …. latest promotion 5k rebate cash or 5 years warranty …. correct me if wrong..
Last Question, if someone bought this inspira and mod into EVO X or lancer gt, the warranty is still there ??? thanks
this is laymen Paul talk about…
in mass production, the higher process complexity you have, the higher cost you have to bear… so, i think, it just same chassis…
you think it is easy to make a chassis eh?
you better learn vehicle structure engineering…
yeah…the chassic were same but safety point diff due diff engine setting. but, it not mean lancer chassic very low. honda civic also put extra safety point for their type r…and can we consider normal civic got low chassuc….
yeah…the chassic were same but safety point diff due diff engine setting. but, it not mean lancer chassic very low. honda civic also put extra safety point for their type r…and can we consider normal civic got low chassic….
i think the car loan interest rate now has been standardize for both local and imported car.. you can no more enjoy 2.3% for vios.. i quess the interest rate now is between 3.5-4%.. depend la on the BLR set by govn..
correct me if i’m wrong
high interest is bank decision? why bank decision is like that? BNM control by G and P1 oso same, control by G? dun u ever realize who i was pointed?
by the way, i am not from mechanical engineering???? haih, im not telling u this if i duno..and im a designer far far away harder compare to the Car..wawa.. design a stuff that prvide worlwide to use the tool for exploration is simple as car??haha..cmon, they even need to consider material type, mechanical n material prperties, collapse pressure, and watever..and for AutoJohdoe, wat i learned b4 was far beyond strutural vehicle engineering. U shuld think before u write, n dun think that u r smarter ppl here.
Salamander, developed country has all benefit to their resident..how oso sample u may take, i duno la..but dun take singapore la coz spore dun have natural resource and only depend to the tax so that is not suprise if spore had too much tax that need to be pay..haha, i had been in europe for many time not long time agoooo..i duno which coutry u stay b4, but in france ptrol maybe euro 1.2 current (maybe), then all the resident got their meal coupon (daily), all got pencen private sector or govern all same..haha…and all salary structure is very nice..so dun think that we are Negara MAJU..haha..
bro.. u tau buat business ka?
u come out with new model that kill off sales of all ur existing models NEO PERSONA GEN2 etc…
and P1 is investing heavily on persona
u mau bankrupt ka?
and we are a developing country not a DEVELOPED country * wink*
i respect your comment….i also same won’t be a fool go use 80k buy a entry level low spec buy proton…my pocket money 80k-90k range will go for Honda City / Toyota Vios definitely… for national car budget max 65k is consider high lolzzz….
what toyota offer u with the 80k vios?nothing except the vvti engine..the rest are normal..nothing special at all. when i entered vios G spec, my first word about the interior is : “aik..ni je ke interior dia??” tp i cakap dlm hati la..kang kecik ati plak member i pemilik vios tuh..
but really, 80k for vios is tooooo much expensive..
for those who said better go for vios…better sit and list down pro n con between this model n vios..
Akina, i totally agree with. Nothing special about the Vios & City, except the engine and CVT gearbox. The rest nothing to shout about..
hakhak..walawei, 2010 car, proton use technology 2005/6? these fellow duno wats the problem of lancer..this is not rebadge from lancer gt dude..then do you think proton care about you so much r?hahaha..80k?is it worth for u to buy? maybe yes, maybe not. CVT? c’mon, this is old technology? but then, yes Inspira is better car than vios, only i disagree with 80k price tag.shuld be around 73-75k for lowest spec! Akina, toyota might sell it 60k if not because of tax from G just to cover the P1 car..cmon.. open your eyes, P1 use our money to build this car dun u realise? then y they still want to sell 80k with 3.9-4.0 interest or 4.1% full loan? haha???
To Civic 1.7RS on what basis of economical knowledge are you saying that the pricetag should be 73-75K? Proton also need to pay tax to the government, have you take that into consideration? Not to mention that they also need to make some profit for future development.
And please stop blaming the government for the Tax and saying proton uses our money. Have you been to other developed country that have their own Automotive industry? they also imposed high tax rate for foreign car sold in their country. So why should there be any different here?
For people who brag that they are a designer, your comment is a bit shallow.
and if u compare inspira with city..why?because city has a padle shift?hay, inspira also have what..
so nothing special anymore about city :-)
“P1 use our money to build this car dun u realise? ”
how much tax that you pay to the G? only peanut la… common think about it.
Vios N City C segment la bro…
This 1 Proton Inspira is C-Segment Car…
Cabin also bigger than your dugong vios or boxy city…
Typical Japanesse Wanabe…
vios n city B segment…..
I suppose this is a car, you’d go for if you want a bit more grunt for your 80k…
in Brunei, Mitsu GT model cost around 27k-30k. Convert to Ringgit, it is 30K x 2.37. That is also RM71k. That price is for Bruneien, whose income per capita is higher than Malaysian. And they get cheaper cars.
then… wait until the oil all gone…
Our oil not yet gone also like this then can’t imagine if all gone…at least Bruneians get to enjoy first rather we suffer all the way….
Brunei do not require automotive tax. Enough said.
kepada jim….ade ke ptt ko gi compare dgn harge honda city or vios…skrg nih dgn harge 80k, ko dh dpt enjin 1.8l….original dr mitsubishi sendiri….tp kalau la kete lancer yg harge 80k, for sure ko sendiri akan angkat lancer….hanye org yg kurang cerdik je pkr mcm ko….
I hope the quality of this car is not same as the other protons….
i thk that going to be the same unchanged…same style doing things…won’t bring much surprise for u…u may feel not as good as lancer quality…since quality is alway big problems for proton…new waja will be expect to hv lower quality as well…try compare past history wira & lancer…what u facing in wira in term quality…so hope u don’t expect high from proton…we jz look a their trends for comparing the quality…then how for current lineup gen2, persona, savvy & neo???
At launch, already 40-something percent LOCAL content. How not to be the same?
Eventhough it’s local.. dIfferent supplier maybe? What Harris is hoping for is better supplier unlike what happened to previous management. This is the first rebadge from Mitsu under DSZ, wake up people…
err… my 2yrs old Saga BLM outside door handle broken twice already… once on front left… and 2 month later on the driver side… hmmm… and not warrantable… :( how sad..
I think proton has to look after the vendor more to supply them with quality parts…
But anyhow others works well….. and I’m happy with Proton so far.
This Lancer based Proton should be good if they maintain less local content…
mmmm, typical example of speak first think later. something like american cowboy, shoot first ask later.
man, i refer this to jim:
’80k min..then i rather buy honda city or toyota vios….’
same r interior.. IP got ckd also
2.0 L mivec Gema engine with timing chain, sure sales like hot cake
wow timing chain aaa?? nice
Best buy of this car model is 1.8L Manual!!! Cheaper & more fun to drive!!!
let us see whether really a lot of ppl buy this 1.8 manual or not. becuase normally ppl who can afford to buy 70-80K and above cars are ppl with job involving a lot of thinking. and they rather the gearbox do the thinking itself while being driven.
anyway, thumbs up to proton for not letting down the manual option.
Yeah, the 1.8 manual sounds delicious.
I am sure lots of petrolheads will be really happy.
I was considering the Hyundai i30 manual, but now I have this. Woo hoo!
Naza please rebadge all Proton cars….so the price will be more cheaper…..& less monthly commitment for all malaysian
wow ! Mitsubishi tech + lotus ride ! cool ~ considering 1.8 , it sound really good ! Thanks Proton !
Inspira had given me inspiration to continue further with Proton..my Waja had contribute a lot me and I would luv to own the new waja(inspira).
I believe the handling is better.
hope the quality and QC is 5 star… because from my experience… proton style is … launch 1st and let local buyers/owners be their QC’s… if there a prob.. local people will let people’s at proton’s know… that what happen with my new proton last time i bought one… don’t be cruel to our local buyers… we really want to support our brands…. anyways good luck proton!
wow!
Great..can’t wait for the preview :)
woo hoo ! finally !
Proton should maintain wif Mitsui a long2 time ago….
For “kaki lari”…this is the best time for u all to buy Inspira…..
MIVEC wif INVEC III, CVT gearbox, timing chain 103kW@138bhp (1.8cc) or 110kW@148bhp (2.0cc)
nah…original frm Japan…New …tak payah nak convert lagi engine..
Think Proton Inspira, Think Lancer GT…..
could it be “think lancer GT, Think Proton inspira” ? :p
The 2.0 output not the same as Lancer GT…..147ps/177kw torque vs 155ps/199kw
You are referring to the output of the 4B10 1.8L of course it’s less. Proton has both the 1.8L and 2.0L.
Refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_4B1_engine
Sorry paul my bad……read the motor trader review……..well I hope the change the rear light to LED or something……put more electronics gadget on the car such as touch screen GPS and more safety features such as more 6 airbags….. Traction control…..Hid light ….dreaming am I….hehehehe : ))
aiyaa…..
the lower class RM80k Vios/City also don’t get all those…
might as well say they should put everything else also….
Is Proton getting the 4B11T with the turbo?
Nope!
Paul, is there a 1.8 Manual variant?
bem69 nih..x baca ke posting PT yg panjang lebar kat atas tuh..?? konpom x baca la neh..haihh. penat je PT type panjang2..
only stupid crazy company would sell 4B11T engined cars under RM100k loool.
want a T? make it 4B11BOT
hahaha…agreed with u
maybe in R3 or limited edition
huhu no chance mitsu giving the evo10 engine
argghhh… small rims…
16 inch with Continental ContiComfortContact5 tyres for all variants.
aiyoooo continential arr??? my pug come with conti only 4 month pecah liaw.
wa~ ganas sia u drive.. My car’s front continental for 4 months(changed in June) also still good.. not harden yet. =)
i dont know why,, but must check manufacture date first,, many pug 308 hv same problem..
my continental dated at 1310. =) the 13th week of 2010.
my car with continental tyres 3 years never changed the tyre lol
Perhaps its the problem with specific batch of tires?
Could be lor…
Or
Prob with the driver ! Haha…
Aiya production where got 100% one…sure got some not so perfect that leak through QC.
So many factors from material to equipment…….haiz.
aiyaaa bro…..kasi rim/tyres mcm mana cantek pun, orang tukar juga maaaaa
this segment car, org yg beli semua ada duit…buat lawa2 pun org still mod juga..
Better fuel consumption mah
Ive been riding on 15 inch Cinti CC5, damn comfort and nice grip ! Beliv me !
even they give 20inch, people still want to change it…
thanks sharing with us.. :)
Oh dear, how long proton need to do this rebadge thingy…..
I’ll explain in my story, but it’s a “case by case” rebadge strategy, same as every other global manufacturer’s strategy. There’s no ‘shame’ to it.
Thank you very much Paul for stating the truth! Perhaps when it comes from you people will believe in it. Man, I want the Proton Inspira!
proton targetting rebadge models for their small quanity and niche market only like waja dan perdana.. whereas core models like persona, exora, saga their will continue own development…
this is normal strategy for other global car maker..
That’s why Proton targeted sale for this Inspira only 1000/month. Kata CEO Proton. Reasoabe la.
..and i don’t think it’s about the no “shame”. rather the “merry go round” ride over the two decade.
we all know already paul.. u mention it 1 year+ ago.. those who donno pls go back read history
In his book ” Dr Mahathir’s selected letters to the world leaders” , Mahathir said, ” Perception is more important than reality ! “, which I totally agree.
PEOPLE AROUND ME STILL HAVE THE PERCEPTION THAT REBADGE HAS NO ORIGINALITY.
Shame or no shame ? Go and do a survey before anyone can make any conclusion :)
nothing we can do about personal perception..but this is business….it`s nothing new in automotive industry…hanya yg `buta ilmu` shj akan `tembak` suka2 hati….at the end, we have our own choice…mana lagi malu kalau perabih duit juta2…akhirnya tanggung rugi…duit habis, kereta xbleh jual…huhhh?
no thanx to mahathir, malaysians have to face with either P1/P2 or nothing becuase the car prices were jacked up too high and require an even longer repayment period.
bravo tun.
its not about the quality of the cars really. most of the people here argue about the policy. just to protect P1 then all the rakyat suffer with poor car. more people died on the Malaysian road using tin sardin than the war in iraq.
would you want your family to starve only to show off having branded items in your house. thats the thing with Perception. and no… reality is more important than perception.
not all Malaysian died on the rood using Malaysia tin sardin, some also in jap & europe tin sardin , also my friend.
Heya Paul
Personally I do think the only “shame” here is that this plotong will inevitably affect existing Lancer owners …
Sure – it makes business sense to rebadge cars , but to sell the rebadged version along side with the original at the same place & same time seems pretty odd don’t u think ?
Case in Point –
Eg: You don’t see them selling the PASSO and MYVI side by side do you ?
Surely this will affect the owners to the original ?
Mitsu stops selling lancer, they are about to do the sportback instead, only proton sell the sedan version
…but to sell the rebadged version along side with the original at the same place & same time seems pretty odd don’t u think ?
i’m a malaysian student who is currently studying in Jakarta.
well u see, in Indonesia, they are selling rebadged version of car together with the original ones. for example, here they sell Daihatsu Xenia along side Toyota Avanza. they also sell Suzuki APV along side Mitsubishi’s rebadged Suzuki APV. and like what Proton has done, the rebadged cars are different from the original model in terms of engine capacity and safety features.
but i saw perodua nautica and toyota rush side by side. so what is your comment?
haha, true tokan..
and it kills nautica..
rush jugak yg bersepah on the road..
well said lim coffee…
Dear Paul,
what about those who already own a mitsu lancer ? : (
mitsu owners commit suicide, perhaps? nahh.. they have the money to spend. but better hurry and sell their cars now – just timely.
Trade in to get a new car, is new :D
as a lancer owner I don’t think of selling it….I’ve owned Protons more than 10 years,including a brand new one which lasted only 2years and too many times in the SC, quality issues again…even my old E36 is much better…some comedians here suggesting selling it for a Proton…
I think Perodua Nortika and Toyota Rush are the same model and both are sold in Malaysia.
…because Toyota owns Daihatsu and Daihatsu owns Perodua… so basically same… different stories with Proton and Mitsubishi…
Hi DukeKTM,
You obviously did not read Paul’s article.
Please read to find out which car companies are rebadging competitors’ other cars.
good paul…
at least lesser mind ppl will know what proton practice is the same with other makes globally…
WELL EXPLAIN…
good one Paul…
at least they know what is going with the car world…
instead of bashing without their facts right…
they only learn about car world at diving school only I think….
Paul, pleas forgive him(zul), he still a child : ) , dont know about businnes and motoring
Re badge strategy, there’s no ‘shame’ to it.
But a re badge car with such price (79.999K ~ 94K) and Proton’s assembly quality??? There’s no ‘shame’ to it ???
PT..people (referring to bashers & haters) just seemed to never understand. feel pity for them actually..
Myvi is a rebadged passo. whats the big deal about rebadging cars. its to save cost and the consumer gets to choose which brand he wants.
p2 all rebadged daihatsu
P2 semua rebadge.. and then proudly mengaku National Car!.. What a shame..
also toyota (certain) models rite..?
basically, they never have a toyota….
all they got are Daihatsu… never a toyota…
wow law >> good job proton
The problem is that they are not sold side by side ,
but Lancer and this Wa-Lan is !
dear Lim Kopi, check out this link:
http://www.ktb.co.id/products.php?mnu=1&kid=27
its the rebadged Suzuki APV i mention earlier. they sell this along side the original Suzuki APV in Indonesia. And i don’t see any problem with that.
Indon car market and ours not exactly the same right ?
Lancer is originally a C – segment car but now with WaLan becomes almost a B-seg ….
no adverse effect meh like that ?
Haiyaa Lim,
How about Nautica and Rush…Same concept lor….People already going forward, so you better start thinking forward asso lorrr.
I think that’s the reason why you don’t see any Nauticas on the road….
Alo Ice, not that im not thinking forward, BUT
DO U THEN SEE ANYONE BUY NAUTICA AH ?
Pointless for having a Lancer around now isn’t it ?
toyota rush AND perodua nautica.enuff said (dont talk about how many seat they have,its still the same)
Peugot & Citreon also rebadge MMC
VW also rebadge Suzuki
Subaru also rebadge Daihatsu
haiya, katak bawah tempurung
my friends.
all the other car maker rebadge due to reduce cost n their got shared in the company.
vw got suzuki.
toyota have daihatsu,perodua n small share in subaru.
renault also got some share in nissan.their rebadge with small entry cost.but proton?where got share with mitsubishi?their already kick mitsubishi in late 90s.
just my half cents
pug does not hav equity in mitsu..only patnership..still they rebadge mitsu….same goes to mitsu-proton
oi..baca la kat atas tu….aston martin ada share dgn toyota ke????diorang rebatch toyota iq jadi aston martin cygnet ko tak bising pulak….stupid dumbass….suruh baca malas…tau komplen jer…kenapa ko tak cakap aston martin takde duit pemalas buat keje???
rebadge have nothing to do with market share….its only easier if the company have relation…but even without any relation..any manufacturer was free to have discussion to do some bussines together…..what??u only sell nasi lemak to your family members ah??is it wrong to sell the exactly same nasi lemak at your warung and supply the “uprated-kopitiam” as well???? same nasi lemak..same taste..same ingredient….but different price….
think properly la……
yeah.. 100% agree with you…
We are talking about the price strategy.
If they got relation with Mitsubishi, I think the price will be much cheaper comparing to the announced price.
And not to forget also that a Proton(or Perodua) Cars in Malaysia is much expensive to compare to other country that imported Malaysian cars.
Please check in the internet first.
But, if the price is affordable enough, then another story.
And that Aston Martin selling price how much?
Toyota and Aston Martin, which one got exclusive brand?
forever and ever
Proton can rebadge a VW GTi and sell it for RM100k for all I care. Always welcome to cheaper car price
To rebadge a car in my opinion is not an easy as ABC. There should involve really complex agreement that MIGHT cause very2 big loss to the so called re-badger.
Even to rebadge a car it still takes millions of ringgit and 17 months of development.
to get the tools, and production line setup, to get vendor to submit approved material, anything less than 2 years is a good job.
even if its rebadge. need to train engineer and operator, smoothen the process line, even to work out the QA process and incoming, and then buy off process takes forever, and well, its not like a real rebadge by changing badge.
this is what concern me the most, they spend millions for re-badge, for better or worst?
you r rite fly, it takes alot of work i guess….if its not a rebadge by changing badge only …rite
Get it straight, Proton can be heavily funded by Gov and GLC.
And as we know, proton change of management did improve a bit.
But not at its best as Malaysian expected it to be after so many years of buying support. We have top brains but thick skull previous decision managers that build design that is backwards and highly unimaginable design outcome!
Get this time right P1. Brings forward technology that is suppose to be more futuristic, low CG, sporty and with more curve profiles on edges and side doors. This you can never go wrong no matter what rubbish is hiding inside the engine otherwise!
yeah…good mystvearn!! welcome cheep car, i love it too :)
Yeah keep it going Proton… next up, a rebadged McLaren for me…. Please, pretty pls…
heck even Aston Martin is rebadging the Agyo as their Cygnet…..
bro naim, dont lah give misleading info. the cygnet was not rebadged from Aygo, but iQ
The Aygo is rebadged as Citroen C1 and Peugoet 107.
Aiyo, this fella don`t study economics or business….
Can somebody pls enlighten him… haiz
Horray….
can u give us the final price for this car? cause they so many rumours.. i bit confuse which price is really true..
They didn’t unveil the confirmed price unfortunately but it’s definitely below RM100k for the most expensive version.
price starting RM79,XXX
hehe
my fren from Protong gave to me this evening
saw a shot of it interior in TV3,
It seem the Inspira will came with paddle shift. or is it just for the 2.0 version?
If not mistaken the 1.8L come only with 5-speed manual while the 2.0 is full spec version wif CVT + paddle shift. Auto for 1.8L still haven confirm yet, but believe it wont be the same as 2.0L..
1.8L auto also uses the CVT but no paddle shift.
Ouh thanks for the info, one last thing though,
Is the paddle integrated with the wheel, or fixed to the column just like the original Lancer?
It’s fixed onto the column as per the original Lancer.
Paul, any manual transmission?
1.8L will come with 2 variant Manual and Auto (CVT), and the 2.0L will come with Auto (CVT) + paddle shift and Plus minus at the gear and olso have an extra body kit. And for the rims it they just put 16″ .
Why… they all didnt fread the article or what…. pity Paul type banyak2….. they even bother to read :(
Finally Proton using a CVT (albeit not in-house version)… they shud have introduced the Lotus version with the CamXpro long time ago…. they really missed a chance to lead the way…
aww man , why can’t they come out with some REAL gearboxes ? :)
REAL gearboxes? I don’t think they put LEGO parts as their gearboxes. Hehehe.
Do you mean their OWN gearbox?
frossonice ….
You do know what a CVT actually is , do you ?
CVT = = Cerun Very Teruk
after this special edition will come with spoiler and sport rim like lancer gt. next limited edition..and bla bla bla edition :)
I think it looks better than the Lancer. And it just begs to be modded. The Sunway boys are going to have a field day being the supplier.
Can’t wait to see who will be the first in Malaysia to transplant EVO X engine to this Proton.
All it takes is a turbo kit to make Inspira turned into Evo X.
Proton Inspirax. Sounds like a pharmacy drug. :)
lancer is much better than this….
Talking before seeing the actual result.. typical basher
Damn stupid, even the car expert says this more comfort, he make himself look idiot !
How much better when they are practically the same thing? Read the article first. They have done only minor modification and tuning and that’s all.
Typical a**h***.
Sorry to hear your newly bought lancer has lost 50% of its value… dont cry..
what is proton did with lotus ride and handling? better handling wif this waja compared to lancer GT??
Paul, you know where we can get good Evo modification? :)
hahaha is it??inspira’s rim also doesnt hav a chance 2 stand by Lancer GT…i wonder y its 16’….
Malaysian Made car always never siap one..
moving out from showroom, then go to accessories car shop to add more make-up
that’s the beauty.
It translates into good business for the accessories guys. its a win-win situation.
malaysian car is taking like japanaese car..they do the normal, if u wanna big power go to shop tune it. but for “lazyness” europian, they built the normal n tune car. then the driver only show off thier big car, n when the car broke down. call someone else, nothing can do on your own.
cant wait for your review paul.. hope the lotus ride and handling do superb cornering :)
The Lotus DNA is definitely there. The car has been transformed.
Wow then Civic, Altis, Lancer will be eating smoke :)
Lancer with Lotus technology??
That’s awesome!
Bravo Proton!
The car has been transformed, so the new chassis have been test? i mean crash test? or they simply use the 5 star came from the old chassis.. kongsi2 kan yer paul..
chassis and suspension system is quite different. Read the article, will you. Paul never mentioned about chassis tweak or modification.
There is a fully unmasked picture of this car without the bumper black stickers and proton logo circulating on facebook :P
On another note, since you say preview, meaning launch date very very soon? Can tell us when? Saw a newspaper ad today saying starting RM 79 xxx
It’s soft launching TOMORROW with the name unveiled. Actual launch is in November.
Yeah…it’s on the 11th of November…rite Paul
what is soft launching….??? is there some kind of website that i can surf….???
are u a 3rd grade or something? LOLS!!! It’s just a private launch, not for everyone…. Take it easy, bro.
soft launch can be explained in simple words as in, they announce the existence of the car, let everyone drool over it, but no actual car rolling off show room yet. Where actual launch is the day the 1st customer can get their key n their new toy.
Basically means, soft launch is for people to look at the car, starts collecting money for mods n start booking/designing new body kit for his/her/gay/les car while dream of it everynight. Actual launch will be the day he/she/gay/les go and pasang all those above items and start rolling with style.
faham? :D
it is not a big launching like exora…
soft launching is just small launching without much gimmick… thats all
hello.. u r at the right place already lah..duh!
why proton didnt update the car???… such as putting LED brakelamp, side mirror with signal lamp etc….. persona and exora have those things….and i hope this car have the self illuminate meter thing….. i love those things…
The part about LED tail lamps did go through my mind. Even the spyshots of the Saga facelift show LED tail lamps. Takpe, got aftermarket solution :P
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/6706/1275395296886e7a3b449c3.jpg
wow… it looks nice… thanks paul…..
wahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…. so audi ish
Erm…
U have to extract more $ to it… pity poor people…
I prefer they produce it for SE model maybe?
Proton Audi lol… Well the basic idea was to cut development cost, so it makes no sense to start costing extra by fiddling around with the bum.
they can’t design it…..ehehehehehehe
LED Rear Light make the car like china standard, just look at the Pasar Road shops, many are selling those LED light for multiple applications.
i hope they don’t change/add too much things from the original spec of lancer, nanti karang got problem (power window la, whatever things bashers commonly likes to bash), jadi isu lama pulak
Paul why 2.0 & 1.8 ??? Why not 1.8 and 2.0 Light pressure turbo or super charge??? If 1.8 & 2.0 not much different la……. Proton should have tied up with VW. Then we can have Proton Jetta……. & Proton Polo. Wake me up guys I’m still dreaming……
Mitsubishi did not allow them to touch the engine bay mechanicals, so the engine and ECU settings are all the same as per Mitsubishi.
any posibility this mitsubishi engine change to campro or other type engine? cause i heard they will change this?
I dun think la sir, since campro engine labeled as “dirty engine” which mean did not comply Euro Env specs I guess, so since this MMC engine more “clean” specs engine and using current de-facto engine also.
no la bro..change engine mean need to change engine mounting,,, this p390a is 90% ckd…no stamp part for big part…only roughly 1500 unit to be made monthly…
after this proton will venture into more new project…electric car, new global small car, P321A (persona R), saga r and exora r….
Is there any possibility that Proton will plonk in Campro CPS 1.8 and 2.0 in the Inspira?
paul > will mitsubishi allow this mivec engine to be used by other proton car like exora?
So Paul, what ur saying is that its literally POINTLESS for Mitsubishi Malaysia to sell the LANCER now ? :)
There will always be buyers who will want the Mitsubishi badge, plus they have the hatchback version coming up.
http://paultan.org/2010/09/13/mitsubishi-lancer-sportback-test-drive-report-from-japan/
What has a RM 123k Mitsu 2.0 GT has to offer to buyers? Inspira 2.0 has same body, engine & gearbox (plus paddle shift) for RM 95k? Inspira has Lotus handling which is a Big plus.
The badge can be easily changed to Mitsu badge, the rims can also be easily upgraded to 18 inch rim. By next year, there might be many Evo look alike on the road… How could Mitsubishi Lancer compete in Malaysia?
Everybody can buy their car and do reverse engineering.
why 95k so expensive?? same price like forte 2.0 and thats imported.
Lotus-tuned suspensions and Proton-improved CVT air cooler don’t come cheap lol. and Proton cars also kena tax heavily too.
btw, Mitsu’s CVT cooling systems are very problematic you know. step hard on the throttle for too long and gearbox ‘OVERHEAT’ warning will flash all over the speedometer screen. Proton has improved the cooling so no problem lah.
for your info that was for the 2007 models. all the latest model have cooler for the gearbox
Better still be a real driver and control the car yourself with a manual transmission.
imported doesn’t mean it is good. It may be called proton waja, but most of the parts and especially the design is of mitsubishi. that is Mitsubishi vs Kia.
Totolly agreed with you. Why Kia can produce so cheap car as it is CBU, the taxes will be 150% – 200%. CKD will be around 100%. When proton is produce in locally, the tax is only 45%. So i think proton is producing the car cheaper. I think it is because high make up from the vendor supplying the product to proton. As i know that from my fren which one of the supplier to proton. The product goes through many hand b4 reaching Proton. Some of the company is just shelf company which got the contract then sub out to factory to do it. they just earn the money they want so qoute high price to proton. that y our car so exp la…………. haizzzz if this is not solve, proton will be always expensive. :(
good la for forte, and then every month masuk service centre balik, spare-part no where to found.
How sure are you regarding this statement? Are you one of the owner of forte? As far as I know from some forte’s owner. There is no such symptom as per said in your statement. If you did not own the car or facts about it. Don’t just simply put your own perception in it.
Yes! Forte is good from the owner here. No such symptom mentioned from comments.
Hope you all can continue focus to Proton Inspira!!!
This is good car based on the spec & price!
Keep it up!
Didn’t noe that Forte got CVT paddle shift and Lotus Handling…
yea, the company that has evo cannot tune a car properly. LOL.
forte got 6 airbags, so you can choose safety or go faster.
yeah, put turbo for more power, spoiler, winglet, big exhaust, carbon fiber hood etc
Yessssssssssssss! this is it!
Well on the brighter side, now more choice in the 70k – 100k range and bringing a good Japanese car to the masses.
It’s not always a gloom case la, everyone complains and wants a good + reasonably affordable car so now Proton has done it so give it a chance. I’m all for choices, that’s it, Regardless of brand.
P/s : expecting traffic jam in sunway soon then :)
Yes i agree with you my friend. affordable pricing is good for the consumers.
Here’s the leaked brochure. PROTON INSPIRA. Cantik namanya…
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2686/inspiraflyers.jpg
Proton Ispira? If this is meant as a Waja replacement, why call it Inspira? Why not just call it Waja? Proton seems to create way too many “new” model names instead of a proper replacement i.e. continuation of existing model name but with new design…
It works if the new model’s a continuation of the previous model, but this clearly isn’t. Engine displacement different, segment different.
nothing weird if car maker changing their product name.
Nissan Bluebird, where now?
Nissan Sentra, where now?
Toyota Camry, where now?
Volvo also change their product name
Hyundai also change their product name
Hey Camry is still around, last time I looked.
bro, what’s wrong with it?
Like Tiara replacement they called it Savvy…
Satria replacement they added in the Neo…
Wira…market replace by Gen 2 and Persona…
Inspira is quit a good name…
Waja is quit old soundish…dunt u think?
Proton is going global now and they have to use global name for their models because words like waja, iswara, wira etc sound too domestic.
Cos they scared people will surely call it WA-LAN mah (as in Waja Lancer) :)
life go on for proton, ala wira replacement is named Gen2 / Persona, apa nak bising if Waja replacement named Inspira
wow ada paddle shift… proton here i come next month.. hahahaha.. seronok dpt keje kat sana.. mau sambar satu
price is out of reach for many ah bengs & ah lians.
Looks like current Lancer GT owners “not hit very hard”.
If 1.8 Variant is RM80K, then how much will d 2.0 variant cost?
Ah Beng and Ah Lian are poor people?
What makes you think that ?
this gonna be awesome… lotus DNA (said by paul) .. hahaha… all “ori” mitsubishi lancer will be smoked later when this car on road…
but i don’t have the money…. too expensive for me… lol….
lotus neva produce a powerfull engine la..
but we r happy that the engine is originally from mitsu..
and the handling from lotus DNA..
yeah ori mitsu will be smoke off.. LOL
Engine is not campro engine?
No its the 4B series by Mitsubishi.
wow that’s good!thanks paul tan!
Perhaps later Proton will add the 1.6 CPS engine.
paul.. apa itu 4B series, suatu ketika dulu ada gambar new wajar yg ada body chassis numbering, dari body chassis numbering itu code untuk enjin new waja ialah ( 4 ),, setahu saya 4 bermaksud 1.4cc.. mcm campro 1.3cc code dia ialah ( 3 ), 1.6cc ( 6 ) plzz terangkan,,,
Different manufacturers use different naming for their engines. For Mitsu, 4 is 4 cylinder, B is the engine family.
boleh refer kat sini…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_4B1_engine
semua dapat thumd down? huhuhuh maksud saya ialah number ni… PL1CY4STRAF000007
in la dia number body, code enjin yg ker enam (4) merujuk kepada 1.4cc,, ini la yg saya hairan..
sy tau 4b10, 4b11, 4g13 and 4g15,, ni nama enjin..
comment ni cuma nk terangkan soalan sy sebelum ni.. TQ..
First 3 digits are WMI World Manufacturer indicator, PL1 = Malaysia Proton
4-9 digits are VDS Vehicle Descriptor Section; vehicle type, platform, body style amongst others.
10th digit shows year of make, A = 2010
11-17th digit are VIS Vehicle Identifier Section; like IC number lah. may also be used to show options on the car.
http://funtastickodesign.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/lancer-proton-10.jpg
i read somewhere… proton target 1k++ sales per month
why so low??
dugong monthly sales is around 2k++ /month
i think inspira can do better
this is for niche market
the mass one would be new persona and emas
Malaysians prefer badge over the cars. People will still buy the dugong even though there are choices of better car at similar price.
Paul, this is just my speculation. Is it because mitsu do not really have any factory in SEA, that’s why they allow proton to do this? By utilizing tg. malim and proton as their partner to export/market lancer, so mitsu can benefit from lower manufacturing cost.
This seems like a good deal for both parties.
Yeah, it could be a precursor to something bigger. If done properly it can also a ‘testimony’ of Tanjung Malim’s ability to assemble third party cars with good quality, so Proton can possibly do contract assembly jobs for other automakers.
good for economic and p1 itself
agrees, let see what’s coming
if that is so then why did vw doing their contract assembly in pekan, certainly tg malim is the newer and bigger plant?
tanjung malim is proton plant…..their contract is with HICOM..so pekan plant
VW hv been official announcement in the press that German worry too much high possibility proton will steal their intelligent property for own use or to 3rd party or to their rivals…VW hv well exp in this matter when come to JV b4 coming in M’sia…VW afraid their award winning dual clutch DSG & turbocharged TSI engine leak out & fall to their competitors…
Yeah but the same thing can happen at the Pekan plant. I think it is just becos VW want more control over the JV or any rebadging venture. Pekan guys dont mind the partner taking charge, no pun intended.
Proton tanjung malim is the best “car plant” in malaysia.. masuk jer kita boleh tukar bendera jepun, just some stupid proton ppl how made this cpny suck.. waste more money in rental palnt “shah alam”, proton boleh keluarkan kereta yg ada “Q” di tanjung malim.. dgn syarat vendor yg supply part ada “quality”, TAPI. proton have to pay more la,, dont simply cut cost, ok?,..
Not in Malaysia lah.. Discovery channel said that Proton palnt in Tanjung Malim is The Most Advance Plant in the World… This is fact..
See this link.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DzVzp12pbw
yer.. dulu terbaik di dunia (2003) sekarang 2010.. dan sekarang tak semua mesin dia normal macam 1st production 2004.. thanks 2 cut cost enggr.. tapi masih boleh keluarkan “Q” product and some batter than 1st production.. ( tak termasuk part yg di supply oleh vendor ( not all vendor) )
yup… Some vendors spoil everything….
Inspira uses Shah Alam factory.
Paul, Inspira assembly at MVF Shah Alam plant share with Exora line not at Tg Malim plant
PLEASE DO IT WELL FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, YA, MY DEAR PROTON.
PLEASE DO IT RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
The ball is now in your park Proton, you’ve got a class product in your hands.
Hope that the suppliers and after sales support for this product is up to spec as well.
and this is my guess.. this is exchange model programme
Mitsu gives lancer to proton
proton gives exora/persona platform to mitsu
win win
am i right??
Why Mitsu need a Exora, for 3rd global marketing? Lets wait and see how far Mitsu Exora go for…
They have no manufacturing plants in SEA, but they do have some assembly plants in some countries like in the Philippines where they recently switched from CBU from Japan Lancers to locally assembled Lancers.
Japanese engine… european ride and handling.. malaysian price
ah beng must be happy and UMW salesman must be in pressure
prrrrtfhhh
if can follow back the rim and tyre size for 2.0 model as Mitsubishi,
then is good…
17 inch alloy rims would look better for the 2.0 model. 16 inch ones do not look that sporty what with taller-sidewalled rubbers, looking from the sides.
Paul, may be 16 inch rims are the size ideal to the Lotus-handling team considering our Malaysian roads?
……….Or just for economical reasons since 17 inch or 18 inch rims would require the more expensive relevant tires? Please comment
nvr mind… oem rims always not the first choice type :)
most owner will change them …a.s.a.p …..
dont need.. save on tyre.
You sum it up nicely. I think it will sell. Proton should use this slogan..haha… I have been using the Waja more than 6 years now. If everything clicks, time to sell the Waja.
actually i believe that 18″ rim like Lancer GT can be used in 2.0 Inspira because the engine might be the same thus the power output is a bit similar. But 18″ tyre is too expensive for average Malaysians thus Proton reduced the size to 16″.
Inspira owners can always swap their original rims with aftermarket 18″ rims if they want to.
i think the purpose of 16 inch tyre is for ride comfort without compromising handling capability.
my 2 cents.
rumor said proton inspira will coming with R3 edition :) Overall proton did a good job. Never mind copy paste model, this is industrial car need more years to become outstanding and excellent. 25 years is still young for proton, they are many things should do by proton.
i thought Paul said Mitsu don’t let Proton touch the engine?
anyway, it would kickass if R3 can tune the MIVEC wooooot xD
R3 is more on tuning…it does not change anything rite?
25 years still young? Look at KIA and Hyundai now!!
Kia & Hyundai 40 years plus already!
Are you sure? Read their history again!
yes they are… they started off in 1970s…
hyundai was established in 1967,their 1st car model is based on ford cortina..hyundai pony is the 1st korean car produced by hyundai in 1975..
kia motors founded in 1944,produced bicycle parts by hand..they starting to produced cars in 1973 partnering with ford and mazda..
maybe r3 guys just follow what the ralliart version did oversea….
hi paul, i’m very anxious about your review. what’s more when you said “The Lotus DNA is definitely there. The car has been transformed.”.
this is the shocker. i thought proton only takes the model and do some nose job and slap a ‘Lotus tuned’ badge onto it to improve marketing gimmick. this is a very interesting part.
yeahh that”s the different between proton and other “national car makers”
other national car maker thinks how to cut cost and downgrade from base model.
neway proton has also rebadge dan homeground model same like other global car makers.
SUbaru has their homeground model.. and they also have rebadge model JUSTY…
exciting, let see what’s paul verdict tonight ;)
For engine, proton & lotus have no authorizes to do changing. But the rest they can do anything such as suspension setting, refacing the look & etc. That look difference than others that just do totally rebadge but downgrade. So Lotus DNA was there & the car have transform… Mitsubishi also will get benefit since the car have tune by Lotus but maybe only for Evo line up only I think….
i’m very anxious and nervous tooooooo
for those guys who want to buy vios or city…
this should be a better choice and it comes with 2 yrs free servicing….
people buy vios and city because of their fuel consumption..
++ compare to vios and city..++
+good high performance ori Mitsubishi engine
+ good CVT transmission
+ lotus DNA
+ 5 star crash test
+ 2 years free service! ++ free labour and free parts!!
++ how u can get this on a dugong vios and city?
That’s the rational argument for the Inspira. Here’s the irrational argument – Vios & City have the T & H badge, trumps the P1 badge all the time.
ok let’s see
+good fuel consuand reiable mption engine
+good transmision – just ok
+so so DNA – ride and handling – just ok
+dunno how many star
+dunno how many years free service – check it your self
wait right there zimba …
5 star crash test – BUT AIRBAG HOW MANY ? ……..must be Dua Biji Saja la
2 years free service , BUT WARRANTY HOW MANY YEARS ?
simply bcos when u let the girl to choose which car to climb in.. definately Proton is not the choice
2 airbag how to get 5-star rating ??? just misleading people, bcos Mt Lance get 5-star with 7 airbag in test.
at least 6 airbag + ESP like tech only can get 5-Star for now
If u want a bigger more powerful car, then get the Inspira… U want a smaller car with good fuel consumption, then u know who to buy from :)
Then? Proton a car maker?? I’m sorry it’s never on my list!
so, why bother?…u did read the title of this post rite?…
some ppl r just plain arrogant.
so……….just walk away,just walk away!!!!!!
Maybe Ducati, Yamaha and Harley Davidson is on your carnaker list rite?
then… Still Proton is a car maker… so?
for someone who don’t think proton in their list, I quite shock how inspira caught your attention so much. :-).
for those who still want to buy vios or city….do u have brain??haha..long live protoon!
Yes we do :D
And for those of us who have it, we choose to use it :)
Besides, any sensible guy out there wld only welcome the inclusion of the Inspira.
It’ll keep the current market leaders on their feet !
Happy to see proton coming up with an attractive product ! Malaysians deserve it ! :D
Proton will alwaz b proton and the Japs will be Japs… doubt those ppl that wanted a Japs and reputation will ever be interested in buying back a Proton.. the model that will cry foul in the market will most probably be Naza Forte and of coz………. Mits Lancer.. hahaha..
it is called proton inspira
Lotus DNA eh? ^^
At least they are not just simply copy paste like perodua.
Ok, i dont really mean to shoot perodua here, out of topic.
Keke.
Amid the hype and high hope for the INSPIRA…I wonder what will be the waiting time for this new next decade of BEST SELLER from PROTON. I heard that booking are already on right now. As always people will surely book even without viewing the car.
saw this Proton Inspira after the genting tunnel, still with some camouflage tape with Proton test car regs….
nice pick-up, very agile slipping through cars & traffic going downhill and uphill just before Bukit Tinggi… all in all, this Inspira is a right progressive step for Proton… rebadging in my view is OK as long as consumers/customers get a decent product from Proton…. quality wise, I think only time will tell if any cost cutting is involve or if the Proton vendors have learnt their lessons from the past… I hope they have… because it’s a Proton I wouldnt mind buying… since the days of the Saga & Wira…
ahhh at last, i’m waiting for your preview drive!!
make it tonight , late night also ok
cheers
proton inspira…..from rm79,000
Start looking for 2nd hand Lancer GT wheels……
depreciation rate of the current lancer GT sure kaw-kaw huhu :P
wow… tomorow is so far away……. i wish to know the full details and the photos man….. you pay the price of a vios and get a lancer sized car….. of coz, the badge can be changed bila bila sahaja…….
great work proton….. the tuner markets will be very busy from now till next year’s CNY. the replica evo 10 bodykit out yet?…..gotta start reading on how to mod the engine with a bolt on turbo
ader manual tak?
after this we can see more Highway Eagle lah, but abit slower…
many will install aftermarket bolt on turbo to achieve evolution status :P
yea i tot of of that too. 1.8 manual + bolt on turbo + bigger rim + body kit + lotus ride& handling + mitsu great chassis = :D
well, most of PDRM’s current Wajas are already fitted with a supercharger. So, maybe they’ll put one in this Inspira too xD
ricers and mat rempits are gonna f*cked up. lol
I could have sworn that last Raya holiday I saw a police-striped Lancer somewhere in Johor (I think it was near Pagoh trunk road towards Muar). It was not the usual Helang but normal police stickers and it was not an Evo X as well (no flared body arches and shorter wheelbase).
At the back of my mind now PDRM has already started using Lancer GT (or even Inspira already) to replace the Waja and maybe then they’re testing the car albeit with Lancer’s front bumpers so they can test anonymously. I think the manual 1.8 is also developed with this segment in mind. No wonder my brother (in PDRM’s tech dept) said he already tested the car (didn’t paid much attention to him coz he likes to boast around anyway). I thought he meant the Helang.
Can anybody confirm this? I think Mitsubishi also aware that they can tap the government market easily this way, that’s why the rebadging deal can be concluded easily. They don’t need to do the marketing; heck they don’t need to do anything and yet still tap into the local car tax bracket and still laugh all the way to the bank with the same profit per car!!!
why wouldnt govt buy or use persona or saga?
bro..police used evo 10.
now, they should have waited for Inspira instead of buying the actual Evo X
at least save some tax payers money :)
Paul, you seem cannot tahan to unleash the info to the public eh? There are so many replies from you in this post. Good for the readers. I oso cannot wait to read more.
The 2.0 cost about RM76K in Japan.
I tot this is supposed to be a national car with no import duties or so…
How come it cost above RM90K for the same car over here?
http://www.batfa.com/newcar-mitsubishigalantfortis.htm
Answer is simple. All vehicles regardless of imported or locally produced are subject to excise duty, which is charged by percentage based on the engine displacement.
they still hav to pay royalty to mitsu plus still hav to pay excise duty(with discount) and sales tax n include intend profit from p1
Mitsubishi don’t need to do the marketing, they don’t need to do anything and yet still tap into the local car tax bracket and still laugh all the way to the bank with the same profit per car!!!
even though import duty not applicable to Proton but it has been replaced by excise tax which is quite high too
Import duty is not applicable to all makes, again ALL MAKES if imported from Japan.
Just apply MJEPA under the MAlaysia Japan free trade agreement.
Every body pays excise duty at 75% but discounted for local content. Higher local content lower the excise duty.
Sales tax everybody has to pay 10%
i supposed mitsu didnt hav to pays royalty stuff
..in japan…& ….mmm to them selft :)
hahaha
nice one..hehe
Why did Proton go back to rebadging Mitsubishi Lancers?
read the preview first. dont be lazy
i think that the rim is buruk…
Can change wat..
You mentioned “tonight”. What time Paul? I want to set my alarm clock.
MITSUBISHI LANCER GT 2.0 FULLY IMPORT FROM JAPAN = RM117K
PROTON WAJALANCER 2.0 FULLY LOCAL MADE N ASSEMBLY = RM95K
u tell me how much should dis car selling if MIT LANCER CKD in MAL???
simple… the LANCER will never had a chance to be CKD here clearly, and eventually, this model will be stop selling too very soon….
pas bli, tuka side mirror inspira dgn persona la.
Maybe Proton should sell the Inspira without the front nose or give an option to use the Lancer nose. Save us money and time. If not its bonus time for car acc shop.
Leaked leaftlet of Proton INSPIRA (Lancer Waja): http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NFGU8HZYsuA/TLUUNgdW53I/AAAAAAAADPI/j_habQn6H0Q/s1600/inspira.jpg
Aiseh!, another new name?
Looks good…..
any auto cruise for 1.8 version?
saya dengar pembeli 1000 pertama mendapat enjin dan body sebenar Lancer, betul ke En. Paul?
wat if the first 1000 unit is real cbu unit… but they have used it test here test there… u mind? :)
unfair price advantage is not enough for proton, need to buy designs summore to compete in market..
Read the article before you bash. Engage brain before talking.
thats why when i went to med check up at proton i heard the guys whispereing.. white and black are nice.. now all the car is at port klang..
I just need ( Lotus DNA ) handling. Then I good already. Seem after 4 year with neo handling feeling, it hard to feel the japp again.
yup…trully agree. felt scare when try cutting corner with nhc after so much time driving neo. but no offence toward nhc. nice fuel consumption.
all proton model come with 5 years warranty..
i expect this inspira has 5 years but instead getting 2 years warranty.. =(
i thought the broacher only stats 2 year free servicing, free labor and serviceable part? It din states warranty period
warranty from proton is 2 years only bro, the additional 3 years from a differetn company. proton would not dare to give 5 years warranty knowing the kind of quality they give for the cars.
Did anyone test the power window??
They already did on Lancer bro XD
yo Paul, wheres the review & interior photos? pls dnt keep us waiting any longer…
No big deal. Still a rebadged MItsubishi Lancer with a Proton badge. At RM80K plus, not many people want to buy this car. At this price, there are many options like Honda City, Toyota Vios, Mazda 2, Ford Fiesta, Naza Forte.
No big deal. Still a rebadged MItsubishi Lancer with a Proton badge. At RM80K plus, not many people want to buy this car. At this price, there are many options like Honda City, Toyota Vios, Mazda 2, Ford Fiesta, Naza Forte. Honda Inspire, Proton Inspira. See the resemblance?
cant see…hu3…
coz, city, vios, mazda2, fiesta…are all in different segment of car… incomparable…
this lancer is a C-segment..compete with civic, altis, FORTE, and some other…
honda inspire is an accord here in malaysia, which is a D-segment…cannot be compare…
forte i think is best to compare, same segment, similar price, similar dimension and all…
the Inspira can trash City, Vios, Mazda 2, Fiesta anytime except the Forte.
yeah… u are rite….
still a mitsu… just a bit cut cost of few 10th of thousand….
& …obviously…..we STILL GOT the same car…
well… its seem cheepER to me ..
for THE SAME car… :)
It is actually a big deal, contrary to your opinion. They would buy if they are convinced that this car is as good as the original Mitsubishi Lancer, only at a more competitive price compared to the pretenders, especially City and Vios, what more Naza Forte. Based on looks alone, there shouldn’t be any problems in convincing. But of course, you, sir, can do potential buyers a favour by not booking this car as the queue will be less by one.
wait till the inspira smokes those cars, lol
they should have used the rear lights of the lancer forte as per taiwan spec, to allow the lancer gt to actually retain some good market resale
now i bet some lancer owner be pissed and be like, we have been F’ed royally by mitsubishi! LOL. some more the car handles better than the Lancer GT! hahaha
they should happy wat….at least easier to find spare part
fortis la dude.
Mitsubishi should learn from VW that they won’t CKD current on sale model to care much on customer brand loyalty, face suddenly resale value drop, avoid buyer pissed off….VW really do well in promoting their car in everywhere in their advertisement…b4 Golf now is Polo turn….Mitsubishi should more understand market to gain buyer trust…
Mitsu is not stupid. They don’t need to do the marketing; heck they don’t need to do anything and yet still tap into the local car tax bracket and still laugh all the way to the bank with the same profit per car!!!
If Proton copy the Lancer by the time the photocopied car appears in the market is already lagging by a few years’ worth of tech anyway. Might as well make good bucks from it!
Proton too much dependence…that y they cannot grow up…agree Japanese is smart since their sales is behind T,H,N japan brand…
Very very good that the engine bay is not touched. So buyer friends, now you can savely buy this Lancer as other things are not major issue. Hope it sells like hot cake so that Avanza and Vios will improve.
They are not touching it now… but later don’t know lar.. I doubt the government will allow Proton to continuous rebadge a Jap car and sell in Malaysia..
Paul, later on will Proton intent to localize more parts in the car? Will that lead to a cheaper car later on?
Original Lancer the face is more garang. This one is more gentleman.
Yeah, finally p1 better
dude, gentleman for a car means unker la
i call it ‘more global’ rather than unker. hehe..
See the spyshot at the facebook link before.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs675.snc4/61538_433903371106_644751106_5265761_1006330_n.jpg
u punya suka lah.. hahaha.. what a stupid comparison
hope the power window can hold for more than a year….
Without sideskirts it looks rather lethargic ,
Hey paul , why don’t you ask them 1 car for a long-term review, if proton have faith in their product, they’d lend you one , or to any other motor journos for that matter…
If a company has faith in their product, there should be no reason why they need another person’s opinion to justify their faith in their product.
the consumer don’t have faith in proton’s offering , If proton is convinced that this car is any good, they wont mind giving it to well-established motor journalists for a long term review, after all, everyone knows that proton car doesn’t last long except the first gen saga, (I’ve owned saga,wira,waja,n savvy so i know the interior/electric bits will fall to pieces after few months)
If proton is sceptical about its cars abilities in the long run, they wont give’em away, because long term reviews might hurt future sales and brand image.
Proton alone having faith in their product is not good, they need the support of the public
paul..wheres the test drive review??…night ardy maa..
I hate mitsubishi! I swear I will never buy a Mitsubishi again! how could they do this to their customers?>?????????????
Yes, don’t buy Mitsubishi again. Mitsubishi doesn’t care for its customers/car buyers. Buy Honda!
Agree!!!!!!!!!! Horrible service Mitsubishi! my family had an accord and the service is so good….even proton is better than Mitsubishi now i think.
You’re right, Mitsu never cared about you!
BTW, any reason they should?
On a further note, the front end (from the leaked brochure) looks stylish and inoffensive , good job proton…
we can do a side by side comparison with the lancer, to check for the gap size between body panels
same interior quality like lancer then.
Bad cheapo looking HARD plastics.
Arrrhhhh, show us the undisguised images of it!!!
I believe Tuan Syed will make sure this car will be value for money and at minimum quality issue. As long as he with Proton, the hope is still there :)
I own Mitsu Lancer and still proud using it. N I don’t mind with the rebadge thing. Good for me too coz later could get spare parts at lower price.
But with 25 yrs of exp of Proton with Mitsu for Wira,Waja & Perdana, Lotus & LG for Neo & Savvy, Proton stylist/ designer should come with their own design at least not just bumper but headlamp/ rear lamp as well. To my knowledge this is what usually most global player do,to differentiate their brand styling vs the company offering the rebadge model. U guys also know (I presume) Proton had sent some plentiful designers to Mitsu Japan in late 2007/early 2008 to study Lancer/Fortis design. In the end remote key also tiru bulat2??aiyaa.
Original Mitsu LancerGT AP price ~RM 40k, yet Proton sell Waja ‘Inspira’ ~ RM80-90k. In the end Malaysian are ‘forced’ to buy overprice National car just to protect Proton/Perodua and other National car later in future. Others outside Malaysia can choose to buy their preferred car with good quality/performance at cheaper price. Even Proton price outside also cheap, and better quality than the Malaysian’s Proton..Haha,there goes Malaysia car industry :)
who said 40k, from Mitsubishi website lowest spec for gallant fortis is 67k
spare part murah?????time tu tau pulak carik local spare part…..hahaha…
he mean that spare part murah bcoz of alot car Mitsu/inspira in msia. Its not about local or not, price of import spare part also will affected.
tp kutuk inspira….bab spare part tau pulak…civic 1.7…same minded…
do i need to remind you that Proton/Perodua cars are also heavily taxed? Exora M-line without all of the taxes costs just RM30k-40k, you know?
No innovations at all. Not much changes… just like Perdana last time…
id rather they not change a thing
Good news from Proton again.
Although the pictures shown are almost look alike with Lancer, I am still believe Proton will change the design little bit.
Hope to see this car in showroom soon. Really really hope that the launch of Waja will not affect Persona’s sales.
PROTON, GOOD LUCK! HOPE THAT THIS CAR CAN SELL 1000++untis / month
Looks great but am very disappointed with Proton to rebadge Mitsubishi car. Gen 2 and Pesona are great design and I belive they can come out with some great looking cars rather than buying other people cars and rebadge them to Proton. Somehow feel disappointed rather than feeling proud with Proton..
read la the article..then u know y
it amaze me that some peoples jump straight to the comment section just after read the title of the article. haih..
Malaysian car should have at least ABS with Stability control , not ops sikap for hari raya or CNY with hundreds of people dying every year. stop saying about mods… safety first which was last for proton.
Should start manufacturing and selling Mitsubishi badges! :)
Proton should just sell some models with Mitsubishi badge as optional.
Mr Paul Tan, i am waiting anxiously, when will you be unleashing more? :-) cant wait.
74,xxx is the lower spec 1.8 with manual ? go for this is most worth for me i think ~~
those Lancer boys will be really fuming at this,especially those who recently purchased the car..
the should be happy….cheap spare part n even more mod
just no exclusiveness anymore
evo 10 halfcut??? swwweeeettt…
i can see alot of curent waja owners who are almost at the end of their loan cycles wd trade in their cars for this inspira , bigger car and more up to date….
i think the price wd be lower bt probably proton have to pay mitsubishi alot of loyalty fees and so on ,
and i actually think those who go for inspira actually dont consider altis/civic alternative , i dont think civic/altis sales wd be too affected , as most buyers of those two are mostly loyal customers…
anyway good luck , and im i the only one that thinks those two mitsubishi engines will find their way in the exora as well,beside the campro turbo ???
the 1.8 manual sounds like ALOT of fun !
I too do not think new civic/altis sales will be affected.
But I think the 2nd hand sales of those cars as potential 2nd hand civic/altis might switch to the new Proton Inspira instead.
If you want to buy the car, now is the time. Unlike other manufacturers, Proton models are known to degrade over time. Examples are the Putra and Satria GTi.
Will it be different this time?
Walaweh…cannot stand to wait for your review la Paul! Why no ‘like’ button here? Or else I click million times already! Ahahahaaaa…
one question!
how should all the current Lancer driver react on this??
A. if the re-badge proton’s quality cannot keep up with the origin Lancer, then they (we) might feel a bit relief…
but on the other hand,
B. some hope Proton can do a good job on the re-badged, the quality built is on par or even outdo the Lancer… (means at the end you pay less for a better car!)
how?
A or B?? which one you prefer?
I prefer B….hehehehehe
paul, where is the preview… its 11:43 pm now… and i need to go to work tomorrow….
Dear Paul, we are still faithfully waiting for your full take on this.
i thinks so too.. from my layman’s understanding, wht VW is trying to do, is to look for a ready assembler, whuch they wanted to take into their fold and be a assembler subsidiary… and the benefit is 1 way…. to them, VW, they do not want to mess up with the responsibility to develop the other parties that Proton so keen to get, if the tie up with VW is to come true.
so the deal is off lah… ya lah 1 party just want the assembly line, & the hoping party wants to be a full fledged brand, subsiary of VW, mana boleh… so the deal is off n VW settle for the 2nd best, which is to do an OEM assembly with HICOM DRB pekan……
Paul, will the 2nd hand price of my original lancer GT be affected after the launch of this proton lancer 2.0 ? less than a year old only…
No It wont because yours is the original not the pirated !!
this Proton is ‘localized’, not ‘pirated’ lol.
oh dear..so pity to MIT Lancer owner! after NOV, a lot of Mit lancer with Proton logo along the road….nothing special about ur ori MIT Lancer !! Malaysia boleh !! Proton memang BOLEH ! Saya rasa next generation our proton perdana will be BMW 5 series with proton logo….haha !! nothing is impossible !!
M for Malaysia why not
hi Paul,
can you confirm the new waja will use reflective type lamp?
that’s a downgrade right? i mean from waja cps…
i truly love my projector type lamp at my waja cps… very2 bright and evenly distributed
no paddle shifter i guess..
oi paul mane update!!!???
dia penat kot.. kasi can la dia nk rehat.. work-life balance… :)
see u guys tomoro….
ye la, I’ve been waiting since 10pm till now 1am, still no news, I’m going to bed now
Yup where is the update. I have been refreshing the page for the past 3 hour.
Paul is trying some foreplay……until you cannot tahan only post his review. Just tell him you cannot tahan liao….I want I want
omg!! feel like i want to trade in my waja cps with this one!!
cool!
hehe.. da dkt 88 kali da aku dok tekan F5 button ni! xsabo..
Hey paul… now already past midnight. where is your review? fell asleep without updating your site? =D
Paul,
Your loyal readers are waiting for your preview drive report.
aiya mr paul where is ur review comment neh……
but then..the interior will be locally designed and built..
alas!..step forward..Cheap Plastic Dashboard!
exora with 1.8 mivec anyone?
honda civic ——————————————–1.8———————————-2.0
Maximum Horsepower [PS(kW)@rpm] 140 (103)@6,300 155 (114)@6,500
Maximum Torque [Nm(kg-m)@rpm] 174 (17.7)@4,300 188 (19.2)@4,500
inspira 1.8
Peak power 105 kW (143 PS) at 6000 rpm
Peak torque 177 N·m (130 ft·lbf) at 4250 rpm
inspira 2.0
Peak power 108-114 kW (147-155 PS) at 6000 rpm
Peak torque 198 N·m (146 ft·lbf) at 4250 rpm
inspira engine spec seemed bit batter than honda civic in 1.8
inspira is even batter in 2.0
engine performance wise the inspira/lancer wins hands down and not to mention it has dual VVT compared to civic’s single VVT.
but due to the heavy body of the lancer….it seems that civic wins the sprinting race albeit lower power but a lighter body.
i’m not sure whether inspira had gone thru any dieting effort, but its unlikely though.
Paul is trying some foreplay……until you cannot tahan only post his review. Just tell him you cannot tahan liao….I want I want
paul,is the engine and gearbox totally same as lancer gt??
Yes!
then for Inspira engine and transmission spec pls check out at Lancer GT spec on Mitsubishi website.
YESSSS! finally it’s onthe air..enjoy readinf ..
thank Paul!
expect to see more Wajallusion soon on the road… sigh
inspira (2.0) is 70 kg heavier than the civic(2.0)
but inspira has a 10Nm more torque advantage over the civic.
so if we calculate torque/curb weight
inspira 0.144
civic 0.143
looks like inspira has a slight advantage or i would say both car are as fast.
With the Inspira having a Manual Transmission, definitely Civic gonna be smoked…
Based on the pics above;
the (red & black) ones with spoiler and skirts are 2.0?
and the (white & silver) one without are 1.8s?
I like it!
Here in the UK i drive a Skoda which is a reskinned VW, so why are people upset. Proton can bring you a good car at a good price. I do wonder if the rear suspension is torsen bar or have they stay with IRS?
I wonder if they sell it in the UK?
Hatch as well as saloon?
Its just a shame that Proton don’t have a low co2 engine, it would sell well if it did.
Mike
its Proton+Lotus tuning, i’m sure its an IRS. the handling is much, much better than the original Lancer by the way.
well, it was said that the future Campro Turbo engine will be Euro 5 compliant. we just have to wait lol.
Mike, you have to understand Malaysian…
They always think, original thing is better… regardless any improvement done to the rebagde one…
Mitsubishi Lancer GT owners would be crying buckets now. The Inspira is priced lower and yet have better handling than the Lancer GT. Looks like the C-segment car market is now a straight fight between the Kia Forte SX (RM82k) and Proton Inspira (RM80k).
ya… Forte vs Inspira… tough choice…
one will be size… one will be probably pickup speed and FC…
headache…
hi paul i like your phase ” But as Proton has changed the front end look of the car, it is able to do certain things such as install air guides for the transmission cooler, so that the CVT transmission fluid will be less likely to overheat. At the Lancer’s media drive years back, driving at very high speeds for prolonged periods of time (not something we’d do everyday to be honest) resulted in the gearbox heating up over a certain level which then resulted in the car cutting power and displaying an overheat warning on the multi-info display in order to protect the gearbox from being damaged.”
looks like current lancer owner can upgrade their bumper to proton inspire bumper :)
then, they have to put inverted three diamnond badge…
paul how would you compare it with the civic in term of driving them both.
too bad for those people who bought 120k for mitsubishi
This is some great news. but how to sell my current Waja after this car comes out? :D
I think my 9 yrs old waja needs a replacement with this replacement waja
hmmmm, if myvi can rebadge the toyota passo…what’s wrong with proton doing it as well? hehe, good job proton!
i was wondering how the 2.0 handling will behave if put against the lancer GT?
and to be tested with 16 inch wheel and gt’s 18 wheel.
my guess the inspira will do better with our ‘lotused’ stuffs and a better cooling for the transmission….
its hours away from soft launch….. cant wait man….
wish the 2.0 manual was available also……
That would be the basis of a very interesting story.
a touge race, up and down from genting highlands……….wahaha, damn best nie
will u do it? u will? wont u?
yaaa….`driven` new season….perhaps…?
Looks like you can make a feature of it in the next season of Driven.
1. Proton has smaller rims, bigger tyre profile=beter ride comfort?
2. Stock proton vs lancer at sepang, see which is best.
dude, this is nice.
its a rebadge car.
proton did a great work.
cmon la, give Proton some kudos!
they built a car that affordable to us.
we must appreciate them bro.
:)
gallant fortis
JDM sales must be so bad Mitsu has to prostitute themselves for short term gain.
thanks paul
but i skipped your writing about rebadging,
already knew all that, but it;s ok to mention it since still some of the bashers just dun want to understand the whole picture about rebadging
got people by this in labuan???
why do we buy proton in labuan anyway, lots of other cars can be bought with 70K
To all bros here, Proton is doing a good job as a NATIONAL CAR MANUFACTURER! Can u give me the other NATIONAL MANUFACTURER that have their own model..i mean their OWN model which is not a RE-BADGED model and developed and designed in our country? Naza easily received NATIONAL 1st MPV for their Naza Ria which is a Kia Carnival..Well we cannot blame Proton for their price..There is a reason for it + taxes! I hate the price but come to think of it, it is still in REASONABLE price range..
IM PROUD OF PROTON! Bravoooo!
Thumbs Up :)
ya3.. proton produce proton inspira = proton + lotus dna + mitsu = below rm100k
if only mitsu + lotus dna = sure above rm150k…
m i right??
for 80K ++ though, a lot of poor malaysians still cannot afford it……just how many people can afford buying a toyota vios or city, imagine if theres no crazy govt tax on imported cars , most of us can afford an imported 5 star rated safety cars for 40-50k instead of a cramped kancils, viva and BLM for that price range. im not bashing proton, having a national car is good but just dont put so much taxes on other cars to force poor people having no choice but perodua and proton. A lot of lives can be safe driving bigger cars than kancils.
y the hell poor people buy car…if u poor act poor don act like rich people….they should buy food n repair house….instead of buying car..n don say big family…this is for hot young blood car not family man…
hey looser, you think those who die die get a car is bcos they need a car for fun?
u tell me.. how to take a bus from Puchong to IKEA ? u pls go and find out then u will know how ridiculous is our public transport!~
u have to take the bus to KL first then change other route to damansara!! how many hours have u wasted?? if u work from 9-6 everyday~ can u do that????
that’s y many youngster use at least 1 third of their salary just to burn in the car !!!! and also save the hassle of wasting time everyday~~
what r u saying man…….i don get it…my comment bout poor people buying car
Fresh Graduate with rm 2k salary living in klang valley with current 2010 living cost is considered poor people….. OK!
I think so…..
RM 2K living in KL is not comfortable yet, but not exactly dire if you know how to properly budget your life. Problem is, most Malaysian youngsters don’t know how to live within their means.
Tiadaid
Let me put it this way.
Salary 2k After EPF Dedcution….RM 1780 Left
A car. (lets face it) even my current work place don’t have bus access.. Lucky if people work in a place where have public transport.
A Saga (minimum). Why a Saga? well you don’t have to change car after you get married. face it this is reality . buy perodua for your first car sure regret when have baby… B line manual 10% dp min RM 416. so now left RM1363
Daily Meal Let say Minimum RM20 per day (ada lagi ke?). 3 meals… RM600 per month… Left RM763
Hmmmm How About Fuel…. if you live near to office 10KM so 20Km per day at worst 10L/100km. RM3.70 x 20 day work. = RM74. left RM689
But usually if you live near the office the rent of house will be high… even a room can cost you close to RM 500.. let say a decent room is RM500. so left Rm189 per month
RM189 for other things in life like buying cloth or maintaining your car or like having a nice meal…or balik kampung… saving to get married that now days can cost you minimum RM10K to give to bride…..
You really think this is enough? mind you there are some fresh grad with engineering degree a paid that much and some are lower….
I make RM 2K, and I can make do. In fact, I do some of the things you list out. Like I said, it’s not exactly comfortable, but not exactly dire.
aiyaaa..dont burn1/3 of salary for fuel used…. motorbike lo..for commute. to work …2k for sure not enuff in kl …but live with it …life always not fair…no complaint2…work harder..
i use less than 1 third of my salary just to burn fuel..hehe
dude, i was saying most ppl using 1 third of their salary in maintaining a car including loan and fuel & services…
so u r still fall into the same category..or not far from it…
and the example i showed was not referring to myself… its just happen that i get to know from my staffs that the bus services are sucks..
btw. i buy my cars with cash…
why burn your 1 third money to buy a car if you cannot afford? just buy a motorcycle then. lol. if you think buying a car is a burden and burning your money, that’s mean you’re not supposed to own a car and you can’t afford to own one.
puchong to ikea? n u spend 1/3 ur salary on car? aiyoh man, grow up, be responsible to ur self, buy a bike leh, a 2nd hand bike would do, for going to work purpose…. or better still, live nearer lah to ur work place, rent a room nearby… hai, u hv no common sense ka? y buy car? its value depreciate over time… one must know one’s capability, financially ……….
You work your ass out during college an Uni days.. to get and engineering or the best degree (with loan at that)….
You start work and you expect to ride a bike and risk your life???
Are you kidding me?
hey…
only a fool care for a status and his degree so much…
i have my degree and i ride a bike everyday for an hour to work… and i am an engineer… so what??
yeah yeah risk your life…u can afford car n can tahan jam ..used car loh….
used car also risk maa…anytime can die ..
ok i know this article is old, but i couldnt stop myself from replying :P
puchong to IKEA, take bus to IOI mall from wherever you are, then wait for U43 which heads to bandar utama, turun kat kelana jaya lrt station and wait the bus to IKEA
No tax, even Proton cars get cheaper by half. The excise tax and sales tax on them are 45%. If no excise tax, can get Persona for 30K, Inspira for 40K only!
who cares. got money just buy, no money dont buy. work harder, earn more.
Kudos to myself……:) ..i’m the one who tune my car…iswara mustang….:)
this waja going to be on our road for the next 20years like your iswara mustang. kudos dan kudus…
New waja can’t beat iswara mustang in term of satisfaction..eventhough it on the road for more than 50 years…long live iswaralution….
if iswaralution can last 50 years on the road. that show proton is the real car maker. dont play play arrr…
sigh… a lot of lancer owners will most probably are sad now…
SURE!! PDRM Evo 10 also regret osoooo….
No lah, lagi the officers happy can drive “downgraded Helang” (that only a few can get their hands own now). Last Raya holiday I saw a police-striped Lancer somewhere in Johor. It was not the usual Helang but normal police stickers and it was not an Evo X as well (no flared body arches and shorter wheelbase).
I think PDRM has already started using Lancer GT (or even Inspira already) to replace the Waja and maybe then they’re testing the car with Lancer’s front bumpers so they can test anonymously.
“In terms of safety features – ALL models have dual airbags and ABS brakes.”
again, that’s the very best they can offer d.. 2 airbags and ABS only (out of so many ESP,EBD,XXx,XXX,XXX )
why can’t I opt for a much better safety feature, i need more airbags, ESP and more gadgets~~ by then the price already hit 90K+++ to 100k??
btw.. its not a shame of Proton doing that, TOYOTA and HONDA also never offer anything more than 2 air bags even in the premium 2.4 camry or accord~
out of all these best seller cars (national and non-national cars)
are they thinking that we people take safety feature at the least important?
or our accidents rates is damn low???
and i guess looking on wat the PUG and KIA offering in their line-up all the excess air-bags (4-6 bags) are a joke!
People don’t want to pay for safety, what to do. If not, why are there still B-Line cars, Vios J etc.? Heck, even with old safety features like seatbelts Malaysians aren’t fond of using!
Malaysians themselves need to change their attitude and be safety motivated.
how does it feel, getting shafted in the butt by your own countryman? Nice or not? Or painful?
agree with u dude!
some of us prefer a safer car, the cheapest car with 6 airbags in malaysia is Forte 2.0 (am i right) follow by 308turbo and the new polo..hopefully Proton and Perodua can focus on producing a safer and efficient car in the future!
wait…. wait … the full detail on spec after soft launched today. Paul will updated us.
Dude, check your facts. the 2.4 Accord does offer 4 airbags, so as the 2.0 Civic
handsome*dude…..I would say you suda ketinggalan zaman. Safety is very important and equipment such as Airbags up to 4 to 5 is not a joke. The more Airbags u have the more life u safe. I once read in a BMW site where a 5 series and Honda CRV turn turtle all its passanger are safe due to airbags. In europe and some other countries safety features such 6 to 8 air bags, ESP, VSA, Traction Control, lane depature monitor/assist, HID adeptive beam control, blind spot assist, night view and LED day light are mandatory equipment. Its just Malaysian authorities do not force to make such features mandatory. Safety sells…..and its not a joke…….
MAYBE PROTON SHOULD RE-BADGE NISSAN SKYLINE OR SUBARU WRX OR HONDA FD..
SO LETS GO HALF CUT SHOP!
walaweii…if potong rebadge skyline below 100k.. i will the 1srt to q…hahahah
No more skyline. Now GTR.
Haha, setuju…the persona side mirror mmg cun kan tuan ;P
So can we see this in the showroom this weekend ? wanna check it out.
I predict lots of wannabe EVO X on the road in the next 6 months. LOL!
Anyway kudos to Proton!
But I pity the Lancer boys. That would explain why a sudden surge of Mitsu Lancers being sold on the market.
Dear All,
And of course, Proton has to serve the Malaysian government, the government’s fleet manager SPANCO, and other fleet buyers such as the police. (Sound nice, hehe…)
Badge engineering a Mitsubishi product – have we gone backwards? (Not really, i thk its a good strategy rather than make our own design then the result is rubbish)
What’s the rev at 110kph in 5th gear?
Datuk Syed Zainal told us at the post-drive media roundtable that it was not an easy decision for Proton to decide to use a reengineered Lancer for the new P3-90A. Not only will the rakyat grill them but there will surely be drama in the Parliament. However, it was a business decision, and a rational one.
My comment :
Its a good decision, Mr DSZ. But the price, is not good. Re-badge, national car, but still the price is $_$ !
it’s a 1.8 and not 1.6.
If 1.6, then can sell lower like current waja and persona.
regards,
Lancer got 1.5 engine like what they sell in Singapore. Of course it is down to Malaysian buyers ‘sophistication’ that it is more appropriate to start at 1.8. Proton still want to sell Persona la leh
honestly i have to say this is a great product option from proton to complete with other brands..congrats…
I think there will be more ‘kiasu’ people driving proton at 180kmh or more after this to ‘show-off’ how fast is their proton – jus tlike they do with their 1.6 persona.
nway, I suspect this inspira will not have the same kind of ‘premium’ interior like the ori Lancer or other models to keep the price competitive…
lastly… i guess this is the best car you can buy at RM80K… not dugong, not city or other B-segment…. unless proton really throw low-quality interior with the car..
Are you for real?
Ori Mitsubishi Lancer interior is premium? Hard Plastic is premium???
Wow people who don’t know about car talking like he knows everything… wow wow
BTW people don’t drive persona at 180kmh to be kiasu or show off like you say….. I drive an Altis 2010 but I also driven persona long distance… the persona has a better high speed driving feel PERIOD!’
FYI the instrument panel is taken directly KD from Mitsubishi. No plastic injection are done yet for the Inpanel.
can’t u see the ‘ ‘ sign? do u really understand to read that sign?
i am comparing standard model of this anak tiri lancer and the real lancer.. do u expect me to compare this with BMW premium.. liao..
again.. I dont say ALL persona driver.. but some who overtake my MAzda3 at that speed… if they dare to drive that car with that speed, i believe with this car they would ever drive faster..
ok larr.. u know everything about car.. puashati?….LOL
open up the automobile market and then let us see what we can get for RM 80KK, then we can know how ‘cheap’ is our locally made cars for both P1 and P2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Paul,. does the steering looks the same as the persona ones or they use back the original lancer type of steering?
also another thing paul, can i confirmed that the engine4B10 comes with MIVEC and INVEC? cause the ppl at mitsubishi say its the same engine without all these technology.
According to Wikipedia, the 4B10 engine is a member of the 4B1 family which uses MIVEC CVVT technology. The engines are all aluminium alloy (head and block).
Whatever some of the previous comment said.. i still think this is …
WHAT MALAYSIAN REALLY WANT…
Japan DNA- Mitsubishi Engine & model
Europe Styling – Lotus Ride & Handling
Malaysian price – Deduct more tax already + some added new features that current Lancer dont have.
So, really WORTH TO BUY!!!
I can imagine… PLUS Highway become the track for Persona and Inspira to get the top speed. hehe:P
To Honda & Toyota Salesperson…
This model will reduce Civic, City, Vios, Altis, and also Forte sales drastically!!!
Anyway..i’m still ok with my Persona..heheh..can still get 180kmh easily…wowowow
power window ok ke????
Mitsubishi engines very lasting
Anytime outlast the Toyotas and Hondas,
GO PROTON !!! Next rebadge the GRANDIS !!
Proton manages to work within its confines and solves the overheating issue with Mitsus, AND adds Lotus ride and handling to the car, and yet people are still bashing it. Dear bashers, please take note, this car may end up being a better drive than the original Lancer. If you still look down on Proton after this, please go start your own car brand.
For my part, BRAVO PROTON!
This car can easily reach 200km/h in second, that’s why they install the air guide.
Haha I find it hilarious. No doubt airbags are important and accidents do happen when we least expect. But safety is more than just airbags. It’s a mindset. Too many ppl driving like drunken nincompoops and enforcement is a joke here. So get a car according to your need and budget. Drive safe and maintain your car periodically. Doesn’t matter what brand of car. Simple common sense. All the best Proton.
Great! Now we need turbo kits(low boost will do, just want more power).. I’m getting quite excited.. haha.
More youngsters will go into bankruptcy later as unable to pay for the car loan…….
bank negara should impose MAX monthly commitment for car is only 20% of their income.. ideally should be around 12%.
why cant create a simple rim, it looks very complicated. but overall looks great :) proton inspira
I dun mind bout rebadged thing.
Juz to add, i wonder if P1 can give LED rear light as the standard.
If they can, sure can attract 1k++ more people (instead of juz 1k per month)
juz my 2 cent..
PAUL, got VSC or not?
Hi Paul,
I’m a proud Lancer GT owner for 2 years. When I heard about this, many thought I’ll be sadden with the news, but I’m not. Or maybe not yet. :) Until I could see how much is the spare parts cost? The windscreen for example, to get a new one will cost me around 2K as I was told. But many non-ori in the market now I guess and hope. But still, some can get those for just below 1k. Better then I go to insured them. A few months back, when I change my tire, one of the lug nut pin broke, I dont know how that happen. I was worried at 1st, but the guy just walk to his store and bring out a box full of pins. After just a few minutes, he found a replacement. Wow, that is easy. He said, dont worry about Mitsubishi parts. Is easy to find, ori and even pirate… hmm really?
I plan to drive this car for at least 10 years when I bought it. So, spare part play a role. So, my plan seems to be working since Proton is bringing this in. I would love to get that 1.8 manual one and put a turbo on it…. fewww… I guess that will be the most popular model. Also, the after market front bumper will be a lot with better quality one. Now we can see quiet a few already like C west and even Audi like :P With this, many more to come… ha ha ha
Do you think the spare parts will be cheaper? or maybe just a few parts or all the parts in the car?
The price is not so exciting for the 2.0L CVT model… imagine prev GT model has nappa leather seats, 18″ tyres, aggressive bodykit styling.. its worth a few k there already… now proton 2.0L CVT priced around RM100k is not interesting enough, if we lose those items… it looks as though like a RM10k+ discount, pretty disappointing for a Proton model… the Naza Ria undercutting the Carnival was much more effective… but i am still waiting whats the interior spec would be like before further comments…
semua orang ada pilihan masing2…so pilih je lah…kalau suka honda..beli je lah…kalau suka toyota….beli lah…as long boleh bayar and boleh maintain…
ramai yang aku jumpe..masa beli semua kata mampu bayar…bila dah 2 3 tahun pakai mula komplen sakit nak bayar bulanan, tayar botak (rim besar tayar nipis, + rim bengkok), road tax, insurans,…..oil filter mahal… engine oil nak pakai sintetik manjang….
masa tuh, mulalah bawak kete xder road tax, tukar tyre secondhand, delay service, spark plug tukar biler kete dah jerking…..
pada yang boleh afford untuk kete import, xperlah…xde orang nak halang..
cukai kete import lah tmpt kerajaan nak dapat duit untuk bangunkan kawasan luar bandar, pendidikan dll….++ dengan cukai2 lain…
kalau kita duk pikirkan diri kita jer…orang yang susah macamana???
kene ingat2lah…pada yang islam tuh….bile last kite bayar zakat???kalau nak pikirkan kehendak masing2…sampai bile pun xkan puas….
toyota and honda will keep silent about this….
to do business or run a website in msia will need to bodek the authorities…
The 2.0 CVT (premium) priced at RM94,450 (metallic) & RM94,000 (solid).
4 colors, Plum Red, Genetic Silver, Solid White & Tranquility Black.
the loan interest ranged between 3.9% to 4.1%, depends if you want it with EWP or not.
with high interest for P1, I guess Forte 2.0 is still one of the best model to consider than this lancer..
paul, new waja still use Hydraulic Power Steering? or EPS (Electronic power steering) like honda and toyota?
Malaysians should rejoice over the launching of this car as now we can get to enjoy Japanese technology at realistic prices and not inflated ones.
It is a marriage of convenience for both the car companies and this car would definitely boost the sales figure. This is defintely not a step backwards.
UMW , Honda and Korean car company are the one on the losing end if the quality of this car is the same as Mitsubishi. They are the one who is gonna have a tough fight this time around.
Maybe Proton will come out with 1.6 Campro CPS with Turbo charger…..what do you think Mr Proton MD? Definitely gonna be a best seller.
Since when do we have realistic prices for car? They’ve been selling us at inflated price for so many years and now they rebadged it and sell it somewhat cheaper, therefore we should thank them and be grateful?
Prices of car should be cheaper.
hey paul, you mentioned a ‘new guide’ to improve airflow for the transmission cooling, at the front end. alright, what’s this?
is this that results in the new bumper’s design? or something in the engine bay? what if i change the bumper to a lancer fortis like the taiwan lancer, will the cooling of the transmission be affected due to different design that will change the airflow entering the engine bay?
Hope that P1 will not compromise about the quality inside and out of P3-90A & other models in their line up.
Salam..
Ive been against Proton since my very bad experience with my Wira in 2001. But seriously even though im a Toyota fan, i think that the Waja Inspira is quite good and well worth the money. There is no point comparing with Vios and City as they are in a different segment. We must all remember that basically we are getting a Lancer for the price of a Honda City.
Quality was a big issue with previous Proton models but since very little has been changed to the car, i would expect the quality standards to remain. Plus since its a Proton, u can expect the resale value to be much better compared to the Mitsubishi Lancer.
All in all, the 1.8L Auto should be the best seller here. And with a selling price of RM87K, i think its worth it. Will be in competition with the 1.6SX Kia Forte but even though the Forte has more features but the Lancer is a bigger car and with the Proton badge it will affect sales for the Forte.
All in all, i think Proton has done well with this Waja Inspira (this is actually the 1st time ive said anything nice about Proton since 2001).
whay must we compare with vios n city..
terus compare dengan original lancer la..
ye ke?
ke kot, coz now the car handling and ride is tune by lotus
in malaysia, people compare in price segment not category segment..
if you have a budget of RM90K… what can you buy in the same C-segment?
not civic, not altis, not focus, not mazda..
what u can have is lower B-segment..
Vios, City, Latio and thanks to NAZA.. Forte..
1. “Datuk Syed Zainal told us at the post-drive media roundtable that it was not an easy decision for Proton to decide to use a reengineered Lancer for the new P3-90A. Not only will the rakyat grill them but there will surely be drama in the Parliament. However, it was a business decision, and a rational one.”
2. “Proton aims to sell less than 2,000 units a month of the new Waja replacement. It would not be wise at all to invest a huge amount of money to develop a new model for the Waja replacement’s segment and price range for a relatively low sales volume? Proton cannot repeat the mistakes of its past, investing a huge amount of money to sell models that ended up not having a very high volume – it would take forever for the entire product to start turning a profit.”
That’s why you don’t need a national car program unless you have the domestic market to support it, stupid!
Malaysia has a very small population (28millions) compared to Japan (127millions) or Korea (73 millions). This project from the very onset should have considered the facts, and it’s ability to sell on international market, instead of basing on national pride alone.
Now Proton is justifying re-badging with the same reason why it should no existed in the first place.
Anyway, what is done is done. It will be interesting to see how will this car competes with City, Vios, Forte, etc.
As with most Malaysian, my 1st car was Proton, because I cant afford something better unlike my father’s generation before Proton. When I finally could afford an upgrade, I opted for Japanese. It will be interesting to see if the general public will opt for a better Proton, or a smaller but more reliable Japanese make.
Oh wait, it is a Japanese engine, so Proton should be as reliable as the Japanese now. :-)
korea only got 48 million population.
Right, my mistake, they have not been selling to North Korea! :-)
Anyway, re-badging is a good biz decision. The reason why i am always prepared to buy a P2. May be I will consider a P1 if the car is reliable.
I don’t see the national made car is doing enough to promote this, few of the notorious things has stuck in national car owner
1. rusty – what has been done to address this, what is the diffference in the sheet metal between national made car and Japanese/Korean car
2. wear and tear parts – always worn out.
3. Engine reliability – I drove a proton for 15 years, it was probably a Mitsu engine
4. fuel consumption – convince consumer that it can beat Japanese.. (same problem I have with Korean cars)
me like most malaysian too..
1st car – second hand proton, second car – new proton.. 3rd car – only can afford new Jap car…
have to say: this surely is (among) proton’s most anticipated model. and i can’t wait either
YES!!!finally a manual..
my comment pulak~
1) oreall mmg cantek. sbb copy & not paste at all of lancer GT
2) tp rim tak cantek lah. mcm bunga raya – old pesyen jerk
3) harap Proton Bagi nama baek punyee..
4) kalo ada duit skang mmg booking je terus. tp baru beli waja cps last year. rasa sikit rugi ler
6) harga tak leh turun lagi ke?
5) & last sekali – nnti POLIS PETROL pun pakai model ni ke?
they named it proton inspira
i just know it~! proton inspira. good..
just use waja nothing wrong with that…
thumbs proton! it gives opportunity for low income people at least to taste a very good looking car…i can guarantee the RNH of this waja replacement is better than the lancer.paul would definetly agree after the test drive….we also have option for 1.8 manual n cvt..more power?go for 2liter…dugong and city?hahahahha….prefer forte..at least the features is better…honda and toyota price expensive with what they offer bcoz of the brand.
but i do hope that proton will again just convert like this….heard they have one big project….not the exora turbo….maybe launch 2012/2013..waiting to see the car.
for this waja…since it looks soft…go to accesorries la…convert to evo bdkit..and sport rim..still below rm90…
low income people can afford 80K car? Pg ni u belum bangun kan, masih mimpi ah?
must be a joke, my salary of 4k ++ a month still cant afford a 80K car with our cost of living nowadays….House, children, makan minum, hutang bla bla bla…
now local cars do have higher interest rate compared to honda and toyota with local banks. still gonna cost you RM1200 ++ per month for 9 years!!
low income can buy but later kena tarik and become bankrupt.. hahaha..
If now a re-engineered lancer…and sooner later we may see nissan/ renault model coming. As P1 has started to talk to Nissan-Renault group and could involve share deal.
not need to said who’s better T vs H vs P1…. , best is to open or give free hand to local automotive market then we will see who’s the best in the market. Also as an end user we will get the best value out of it.
Overall nice car with nice engine…. Hope got no ‘clock spring’ problem….
just wonder how proton claim 5-star safety rating with 2 Airbag only.
5-star rating is for Whitey edition. Malaysian life costs less, so they only give 2 airbags. Call it 2Malaysian edition.
Thanks for the review Paul. Does using paddle shift have the similar feel of manual shift stick ? I love driving manual car and i am glad proton still offering it.
as i said before, its not a downgrade re-badge….
IMO,
for Lancer, mitsu build 2 variants ,if ui realy want sport car, u could go for lancer EVO. Perfeft handling for sport driving not for comfort. lots of power. WTH price tag of course.
Lancer GT is lower spec for normal people who wants the EVO looks but not so racing heart, for everyday use only, want some comfort & not crazy FC like Lancer EVO.
so what proton did with inspira was improving the Lancer GT to be more comfort, improve Ride & handling, fixed the lancer GT transmission, still got lancer EVO body & looks. (for modders i,m sure they’ll be happy to have lancer EVO body)
well, yeah it might reduce the sporty looks of lancer GT. small rims for better FC but improve comfort. But after all that, proton still can give cheaper price than Lancer GT.
The conclusion is, you should be grateful with that. and pls dont label proton so cheaply with this rebadge because its not just a simple rebadge just like some other brands do.
itu pun kalo mitsu bg proton touch the ECU, it could be better i guess.
p/s: if u stil want the car to look 100% like lancer EVO. u convert later la.. if u buy lancer GT, i dont think u want to heavy mod it. so with inspira…… kasi taram jer…
It’s better to get this car quick before they water it down even more with “65% local parts”. Then the car will have your typical Proton quality.
LOCAL PART SHOULD HAVE GUARENTEED QUALITY LEVEL AS GOOD AS IMPORTED SPARA PART SO THAT PEOPLE WONT COMPLAIN IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.
once the local parts are 65%, then price should revise also…
Paul, come on…how can you compare Proton with majority of big car manufacturer who have market in almost every part of the world? Yes, many car manufacturer rebadged non core models for profitability wise. Its not the same as Proton which has small market penetration and limited models. The big difference here is, this rebadged Lancer will be a core model here and dont forget Proton biggest market is right here in Malaysia!
You can have your own opinion but for discussion sake I don’t see the argument that you are trying to put forth. What has market presence have to do with engineering business decisions in the manner in which you are referring to? Are you trying to say Proton should “punish” themselves by spending alot of money because they are not in many markets? Please enlighten me what you really mean.
Less than 2000 units a month is not a core model. If you self develop one, the Price of the car will either be very high or Proton has to sell it for a really long time to recover the initial investment. Would you really rather have another 15 year lifecycle car? DSZ says that Proton wants to keep to a 5 year lifecycle for it’s new products.
Mr.Paul, is proton planning to re-badge mitsubishi service center as well? i mean this specific Proton Lancer model can send to official mitsu service center for service? The proton lancer is essentially a jap mitsu product, the only problem is the quality of proton service center, so if proton can re-badge mitsu service center for this purpose, i dun mind the badge is proton.
When is the last time you went to Proton Service Center?
In my opinion, less than 500K unit a year is not only make most their model not core business, it also mean, irrelevant to have own R&D, or even own branding…
Let see if P1 will turn become like Naza, just a work bench for others brand.
Either rebadge, putting own logo, or local assemby others brand car, it still mean we do not have enough volume for own branding…
P1 existent is not according to business sense, it is more as political tools…
I think you dont understand what i meant. Of course I m 100% agreeable with rebadging. What I meant was you should not put Proton in same position as other bigger car companies. For them its non core but for this Inspira, it will be one of Proton core product. That just shows that Proton is still a very small car company and can’t be compared with bigger players.
You may have your own perception of what is core or not core for Proton but the thing is, whether a model is core or not core is up to their own product planning team to decide (we can “feel” whatever we like but we cannot change it), and it is reflected in the sales volume that they are looking at, which is far less than the core models.
You know, VW is rebadging a Suzuki and selling it in India. No one giving them flak for that…
That is because VW is good in selling cars with 6.29 million units for 2009. While Proton only sells 150k for 2009. That is 42 times difference if you asked me.
“The local vendor ecosystem is also supported as Proton will start off with 40% local content shortly after launch, with the aims to increase it to about 65% within a year.”
this might be the spoiler.. the quality of proton car depend on these vendors. i owned a wira for the past 7 years, satisfied with the quality of the engine but not for the accessories like power window, steering, central locking, odometer.. thumb down to them..
Still talking about Wira?…. that model is already 15 years old la…
yeah, but they still selling it in the 21st century la, didn’t u notice?
Great review! The explanation about the reverse engineering was, in my opinion, valid and totally logical. It really makes good business sense to save on cost and maximize return. It benefits us rakyats as well, we get half japanese cars at cheaper price! Well done Proton!
I am talking of the 2.0 liter model, which has roughly 11% more power and torque compared to the 1.8, which should surely have different rims compared to the 1.8 . I am definitely going to purchase the 2.0 liter model.
Warranty issues, if when claiming for replacements, will arise when rims & tires are changed by the customer not liking the 16 inch rims, which looks tedious to clean, what with its 15-spokes.
As the Proton & Lotus Engineers are good in this handling department, i wonder, (apart from cost issues), why wouldn’t they start with putting 17 inch rims initially. Surely the 205/60 16 inch rubbers offered is lesser in handling terms, compared to, if they were to put in 215/50 rubbers on 17 inch rims (even if fuel consumption will suffer a bit consequently due to extra rolling resistance). Even 205/55 rubbers on 17 inch rims should seem reasonable.
Please Proton, address this point! Today is only the soft launch, final tweaks can, i believe, still happen even if a little bit extra cost has to be added in to the 2.0 liter model.
Agreed that in business point of view, develop own model is high risk and not cost effective…
But if our P1 can stand on their won leg without asking protection, help, money injection from G by using Rakyat money, we will have say that it is good decision…
But as a Malaysian, we still wonder, why shall we put so much money to have P1, and we already know that we are not good in this game? Why can’t we continue with local assemby plant for foreigh model, still tax the car fairly…why we need our own national car?
SG with current economics growth of 18% don’t have their own National car , own name…
What is the diff from Rakyat , what the benefit we will get, to have national brand, rebadge people car… vs assembry people car and sell it?
Anyway, whatever damages has done 25 years ago cannot be re-write…
I am agreed and accept the facts that we shall rebadge Lancer instead of continue with self develop Waja replacement….
My only hope is, P1 can make a great job on handling department with some DNA from lotus…I ready hope P1 can make lancer better than the original lancer..
Yeah. I think putting “national” title to cars…. is really misguided.
It’s not like national flower, national flag, national monument,… etc etc.
Please read the preview written by Paul to understand what proton has done to the new car, they improved the lancer. Basically it means this is a rebadge that they didn’t skim on passion to make it proton
crappp.. this is totally shite
i love my toyota wish 9300 rulez!
I love my 2009 Honda City. Honda Inspire, Proton Inspira. Come on, Proton. Give a more original name. No need to adapt from mighty Honda!
If i book the car now.
How long can i get the car ?
I agree with some of u & also quite disagree with some as well.
What i wanna say is, we are all well aware that car price in our country is very expensive compare to our neighbor like thailand & indonesia. from what i know, lancer’s price is only less than 60k without AP. & bare in mind that those cars are from japan where all the expenses are expensive. i cannot see why P1 cannot reduce the price lower than 80k as all expertise & materials are from malaysia. T& H cars are expensive not because they are expensive. it’s because of the goverment tax. Worst case is, where are all the money goes? Stories been spread saying that they are using the money to subsidize our fuel. But what happen now? they increase the price for Ron 97 & advertise us to use crap fuel… hmm, my two cents larr …
What do you mean by crap fuel? The RON number? Brits are using RON 95 as their regular fuel, while in Australia RON 95 is considered as the Premium fuel.
But Britain use Euro 4 standard maybe 5 now…We use Euro 2M (maybe for Malaysia spec)…See the difference?…Not that i’m saying 2M is crap though, U.S fuel quality is still at par with us….and they pay higher……but heck they earn higher so they don’t mind….
we hope more rebadge plans. lets talk about compact suv, full size mpv, diesel car, double cab, commercial van & small 1 tonne lorry.
lets proton just to concentrate on small to mid size car frm hatchback to sedan. i.e. savvy needs to redesign & change the mechanicals, saga to get facelift, neo to upgrade interor, facelift & offer in 4 doors hatcback, persona to be a global car & exora to upgrade the engine.
get a product strategy for local, asean and global market and sure proton will be among the top manufacturer in future.
I agree. Proton should concentrate on the small mid size car category, cause most people will buy this kind of cars, cause not all people in this country/world are rich.
kuar kete baru, kata moving backwards,
x kuar kete baru, kata x maju..,
atleast Proton is doing something to their product line..
orang M’sia kita mmg ske cari salah orang je,solution xde…
manusia, manusia…~
Betul tu.
apa yg barunya bro..model lama la…model lancer 2008..cit!!
so what import? depend if you want to go for multilink or torsion beam suspension lo. even the Persona Elegance rides much better than Forte. But no doubt both are good cars and value for money, only depend on one’s liking.
Proton did a good move, and heading towards the right direction to bring Proton in line with the current world trend. Now the question have they have the right personal at the service centre?. From my experience proton need to also upkeep their sevice centre. Ever repair they must do it first time right. This is not right in my case servicing at proton service centre.
NO vios in US market,rejected by them,they said it not save to with vios
Why Proton our first national car maker always want to take foreign cars and make it as our local cars? Where is the national pride of Proton after 25 years of operating business. What is the point of buying Lotus when we can’t come out with our own 2.0l engine? In the US, a Lancer costs like RM45k only. Why should we pay >80k for a local car which is sold at a much cheaper price as a different brand overseas? Does that mean Malaysians are average richer than the US citizens??? I really hope the situation will improve soon in the near future. It’s a pity to know this fact as a Malaysian…
The US Lancer may cost RM 45K, but look at what you get for that price. You have to pay RM 240 for floor mat, RM 150 for one set of mud guards (if you choose to get both front and back mud guards it’ll cost double!). Trunk mat costs RM 240, CD Changer costs RM 1200. In Malaysia, you don’t have the option to select what you want and don’t want to have, so like it or not the price reflects that lack of choice. Plus, don’t forget even Proton are taxed. Remove the tax and the Inspira cost only half that. (Can someone explain to me why they’re taxed? Logically if the G want to protect the national carmaker they should not have to pay all the tax on the car!)
But in the greater scheme of things, there’s more to life than car prices.
just my prediction..
(body+engine mitsu)+ (lotus handling)+ (sparepart murah) = proton inspira is better than lancer itself…
now im using exora, eventhough as u know mpv is always goyang2,but the handling of lotus make me confident when cornering..
SO, GOOD LUCK FOR THOSE BOOKING TOMORROW!!!
Good job proton, i think proton lost too much money from waja. this new model hovers between the old waja and perdana price wise. In time they will have to replace the perdana, i couldnt imagine all the gomen official would want to drive this car. so next step is another rebadge job for perdana and a more permanent full size family car in the range 80-70k
Now with this re-badge exercise, it’s time to remove all the high duties imposed on the other makes. A fair fight is what we want to see. What a shame to see good money thrown into Proton and produce below par cars. Is Proton proud to announced that this new Waja is a Malaysian made car?
i think the car is too expensive when its made here.
if it wasnt for proton, cars wont be so expensive.
Agreed.
got this info from salesman,
1.8 manual – rm80499
1.8 auto cvt – rm87450
2.0 auto cvt with paddleshift – rm94450
if book skrg dpt 1year free service. betul ke?
how about interest rates? Any indication?
Are you freaking kidding me. What type of price is this for us Malaysian.
New waja touching RM 100k. Proton must really be out of their freaking mind.
The 2.0 only cost about RM75K in Japan!!!
Why a Proton car with the same specs cost RM95K here??
Proton has been taking us for a ride all these years!!
Selling their car with high price to rakyat, but export to other country with dirt cheap price.
http://www.batfa.com/newcar-mitsubishigalantfortis.htm
You forget about taxes? Think Proton is tax free? Without tax Inspira RM 45K only!
Without tax your Honda, Toyota, yada yada is only…guess how much.
It’s not their core model lar, don’t have money go buy Persona lah. U forgot Perodua Nautica pricing ka? If nobody buy and they still need to sell they will give u discount next year one, no worries. So the discount can become the downpayment and trap more ppl to buy. For the mean time they can milk ppl for what it’s worth.
UMW Toyota and Honda had long milk us dry for their cars, even the 2nd hand market become distorted with their market control (for their segment). Let this one be a test for them.
not 1 year, but 2 years free services as I heard.
With this kind of price tag, they are targeting current VIOS/CITY/LATIO potential buyers….and you know what …..I dont think this is a correct pricing.
VIOS and CITY will still lead because this group of ‘foreign car entry level customers’ are already tired about national car. They are at their late 20s and early 30s and are looking for something reliable to settle down. No more vroom vroom but a dependable workhorse.
TALK IS CHEAP, let’s wait for the figure after 3 months.
Waja + Evo = Wajavo
I think malaysians would be happier if the waja were to be a rebadged EVO789 body with smaller engine and Vios matching price. Then ask lotus to facelift it and remake the interior and you instantly have an outstanding car. Don’t you guys think that the Satria GTI and the Saga LMST has such an evergreen look?
proton sell their cars with a sky high price in their own country plus high interest, but sold with a very low price when exported…1.3, 1.5 or 1.8 is doesnt matter because it just need a very little adjustment..what is important is the technology applied in the car such as electric steering, timing chain, EBD and ABS, plus nice interior and exterior design..if toyota can sell their cars priced 80k plus 2.8 percent interest with all the technology, why cant proton sell theirs with lower price without all the technology??
har…Vios or City got new technology there mer?
Those you get in those 2 brand, is something in market for > 10 years lior…
Correct word should be, Vios and City meet min safety requirement (not J spec).
And my goodness with such ugly rims like these better of just come with besi rims and reduce the price!
they is part of the 40% local content. Must be some JRD or BHL reject design, make too many ppl vomit so poton said “Yes! Is suitable for the overall theme of the Inspira! The power to spew!”
the new waja lancer officer name called Inspira :)
Paul… which model comes with bodykit?
dudez,check this link.it’s got proton inspira brochure.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v377/mfm_v10/webimage/?action=view¤t=proton_inspira.jpg
at 80k…i will not look at proton at all…
i just thinking if proton can replace perdana with the rebadge of vw passat and sell it for 100k…
this the only way malaysian can buy their dream car at cheaper price..
the second way is we use or political power to do so. don’t vote for anyone who support high taxes and duties for import cars.
a lot of stupid people here, eventho Paul already explained on Proton’s strategy for rebadging, but these people still arguing …
Agree with u.Typical bashers.
Basher is soo old school. We prefer haterz instead. More venom. :)
Rebadging is still rebadging la brader. Kalau Asian colour kan rambut blonde 1000 kali pun masih Asian gak. Tambah lagi buat plastic surgery mancungkan hidung. Tak kan jadi omputih jugak, masih gak Asian.
Mitsubhisi Lancer GT – RM35000 (Fully Import) AP price before tax…
Protong Inpira MT – RM90+++ (Jinjang Kepong Spart) !!!!! ?????????
Support2 Gak………. Lu Pikir La Sendiri
Ingat Inspira tu tax free ke? Kalau takde tax separuh harga tau! Nak compare, biar compare benda yang sama, nak compare barang yang tak ditax lagi ngan barang yang dah campur tax dalam harga dia.
if u wanna buy tis car.. get it early cause its roughly 50% made from japan.. proton is still trying to get local supplier for the parts..
Paul, how many virtual gears are there in the 2.0 and 1.8 cvt??
So, the difference in the manual shift of both 2.0 cvt and 1.8 cvt is that 2.0 has paddle shift, while the 1.8 manual shift is at the gear leaver??
It doesn’t really matter how many virtual gears it has, with CVT theoretically u should be at the correct ratio all the time. U shift down to lock virtual lower gears so u have the feeling of pick-up like a manual gearbox. The difference is, there is no actual gear hence the term virtual and even the feeling is artificial
fuyoo….. banyaknya comments…..
very very hot topic for malaysian…..
soon.. there is gonna be a lot of EVO 10’s wannabe on the road… pity for the owner of a real evo 10.. hehe
you buy evo to run fast, if you wanna look fast, you buy some other car.
is Civic type R owner pity? lol.
what pity the real evo 10 pity all the evo wannabe when a real evo 10 shows up.
“Badge engineering a Mitsubishi product – have we gone backwards?”
IMHO… we are not going backwards! We are going back to SQUARE ONE!! Our Saga and Wira used to be based on Lancer models in the past… and it’s turn for Waja to follow suit! We need to be more transparent in order to become a developed nation lah… I wonder why top-of-the-range Myvi is only about 7000 to 8000 pound in the UK!!! That translate to only RM36000 to RM40000 while in Malaysia… we pay RM54000 for the highest SPEC!!! A big SIGH!
After more than 20 years of protectionism towards our National Car… we seem not to be going anywhere at all!! Malaysia Boleh or Tak-Boleh reach Wawasan 2020?? Your verdict :P
Proton has moving backward, with 25 years experience in car industries, now still have to rely others car model to replace our own car model, what the shame !?!
Look at Hyundai and Kia, with 20 years + development and achievement, they are now far advance from Proton!!! To those who loves Proton, please la…. i would say 70% Proton buyers owned it because of it’s price, anyone here bought Proton because of it’s technology !?!?!?!?!????
Like Wira for example, selling the same model from 1990, and almost 18 years in the market still selling the same crab…. this should go into Malaysia Record book too !!!
I hate people like you. Want to bash but no information. KIA & HYUNDAI STARTED WAY BEFORE PROTON LA! Who said they took only 20 years to develop?
And another thing, do you read the article fully? Paul had explained in full detail why rebadging is not a backward move yet you still talk crap. Poor Paul, his effort wasted!
Kia’s history:
South Korea’s oldest car company, Kia was founded on June 9, 1944 as a manufacturer of steel tubing and bicycle parts by hand — and has operated as one of the country’s Chaebols since. In 1952, Kia changed its name from Kyungsung Precision Industry,[9] and later built motorcycles (starting in 1957), trucks (1962) and cars (1974)
Hyundai’s history:
Chung Ju-Yung founded the Hyundai Engineering and Construction Company in 1947. Hyundai Motor Company was later established in 1967. The company’s first model, the Cortina, was released in cooperation with Ford Motor Company in 1968. In 1975, the Pony, the first Korean car, was released, with styling by Giorgio Giugiaro of ItalDesign and powertrain technology provided by Japan’s Mitsubishi Motors.
what i can say.. noob patriotic..
zimba:
You forget to add, in 1985, Hyundai with Mistubishi produces Hyundai Excel which sold over 160 thousands unit in US market alone.
You want to be patriotic, push Proton to give very good sales in oversea’s market. Not to buli the rakyat by charging very high taxes and duties for imported cars, thus making Proton always the cheap one.
That is so true. Ppl forget that criticism is sometime for their own good. When we practice criticism it is done in the hope that they can become better. I’m happy that proton copied the lancer. Re badged, or what ever. Mitsubishi’s level of standard in terms of the R&D and design department is 1 gazillion times better than Proton’s. Their cars look like fierce sharks while Proton incorporates the Wau Bulan motif. WTF?!?!?! Also, we cannot keep on harping on the fact that Proton is only few years old compared to the other more established car manufacturers. The point is that Malaysia does not need a car manufacturer. Please, once and for all, I want to buy a foreign car minus the Tax!!!!
I totally agreed with u. Proton by now should show off their talent and able to produce model that can be supplied to other nations for rebadge. What when wrong is some decision maker wanted the a Malaysian look and some wanted a mix of sport and classical design on Proton car. And there you have it – Tiara, Juara, Savvy and it goes on and on with no intentions of learning what is futuristic car means? I am proud to be Malaysian but is a very very sad story altogether after so much efforts and support buying from us seem to be a failing sight. And now P1 said is good to make profit for their future plan. I doubt that this will be a habit. A very bad habit in future. Trying to make profit rather that hard work that pays off. This can only meant one thing. More and more expensive car in the future. We have loose credibility in P1 and should no longer support P1.
Mr Paul,
Need your recommendation..
Forte or Inpira?? Pros and cons?? :)
Mr Paul,
Need your recommendation..
Forte 2.0 or Inspira 2.0 ?? Pros and cons?? :)
u buy the car for rm90k, then 10 years later u will still see the car freshly made, so, your car wont look too old.
and you will feel safer too, who wanna scratch a waja right? they got so many at roadside.
and if you buy rm90k car to look common, pls get inspira, and do they have 6 airbag?
imported + 6 airbag + 4AT or local made+ 2 airbag+ CVT
your call.
Lancer was launched in 2007 as the 2008 car and is not exactly brand new. Kia Forte has emerged (as Naza Forte here), and soon to be launched new Hyundai Avante with its sleek looks may prove to be a hamper to Inspira.
In my opinion Proton should take the fight to these two, not the other Japs which have their own followings. The Mitsu is not perfect in the first place compared to the segment leader Civic or even the boring Autocar Asean Car Of The Year 2008 Nissan Sylphy.
Compound that to higher interest rates that apply to local cars, then really the Inspira is not really to inspire the rest of us who thinks rationally. It is meant to be a low volume seller and the price is sufficiently adjusted to justify that.
Paul, how soon can you start making specs and features comparisons with Forte since these two(Inspira and Forte) are in the same price bracket(and segment) now?
Do we really want cheeper cars? Does cheaper cars help us Malaysian to reduce traffic jams or worsen it? Can u imagine the traffic jams everyday if we have cheeper cars here in Malaysia, in Kuala Lumpur, JB, Penang and Ipoh. In the end we all go to work in public transport. Beat the purpose of buying cheeper cars anyway. Hahahahaha….
Not everyone live in Kuala Lumpur, JB, Penang and Ipoh. So yes, I want cheeper car. Out of 23 million, only 5 million live in cities.
anyone know this inspira tranmission got 4 gears or 5 gears??
anyone know whether tis tranmission gearbox got 4 speed or 5 speed???
Alo kawan, read first la. The manual gear box got 5 speed, the auto is using CVT.
the CVT has 6 virtual gear as the CVT is mated to the engine.
What happens if you change those rims with original lancer 18 inchers? Will it void the warranty but the wheels are basically standard mitsu wheels, originally designed for the car.
There is no Lotus tuned suspension here. No Lotus team from Hethel were brought in to redesign the suspension and handling system. Just Proton engineers making the best of their experience during their ‘kursus’ at Lotus plant. Trust me, these guys are just as good.
nighttrain,
I wont answer on the warranty you asked.
Why proton changed to 16 rims?
Proton do the study, test and evaluate the best tyres/rims for the roads of Malaysia. We have urban, city, sub-urban, highway, jalan kampung and I believe the 16rims and the new tyres met the characteristic, performance and comfort of the car TO USE MALAYSIA ROAD.
What happend if we change back to 16rims Inpira to 18rims
Definetly, you wont get the same performance as warranted by proton. May differ on the fuel consumption, performance and R&H. The speedo meter is calibrated to meet 16 rims, not 18rims.
Then why Mitsu sold the lancer with 18rims?
Mitsu engineer is good, but proton engineer is great as they know better their hometown. Ask mitsu, how well they know our jalan kampung? Proton want to sell the Inspira for all level of people (yang mana mampu beli la). Meaning that, the rich-pensioned people living at kampung can buy the Inspira and of course the people living at city. Average.
Just my experience and my opinion. TQ
good answer bro..
i agree…even in klang valley got potholes. as much as i love low profile tires for their looks and handling i winched every time my forte sx 17″ langgar lubang
The front lip looks so cheap, like unker Altis type can see the double-sided tape so black and thick. Aiyo poton, u already change the bumper from stock Lancer, might as well design a tasteful bodykit la, not some el cheapo stuck-on piece of RICE!
To Supporters and non-Supporters,
We should inject the take and give mind for such business model which benefits the people and also the manufacturers.
Do not be too offended from the past actions and do look to the future that can let us “RAKYAT” seeking a better growth opportunities in every segment that related to this industry.
Proton now providing us a car that had been widely accepted in the world with a good chassis, 4B family engine and also our very own Lotus inspired handling that could very likely a good car that moving along of your long journey with happiness. Let the time to prove this and all of us to share the news be it good or bad.
Inspira, a very meaningful name that bring us a message for strong feeling of enthusiasm. An effort for all to participate and give every bright ideas of the future in car industry.
I am eagerly waiting and do really hope a success from this move can change all of our perceptions.
I read the whole comment WHY KEEP SAYING LOTUS HANDLING????? The proton engineers modified it a little when i was already into production. How is that suppose to be Lotus handling?
Check out the price of original 2.0 Lancer GT, hand built CBU from Japan RM 71,800.00 (on the road price with insurance) in Labuan and Langkawi. (of Course with less Tax…..http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/showroom-lancer-langkawi.php
and proton are selling entry level inspira 1.8 at 79K ++ hoooray :)
where in the world, (except Langkawi & labuan) you can find another free tax land?
If you wish all goods in the world to be sold with tax free, then how the gov want to build road, school, hospital & etc.
Its just the matter how much and the structure of the tax.
In malaysia, proton is also subjected to TAX.
just lower the tax for national car a bit, so I can buy inspira 2.0 at RM85k. It can be done if the G want.
Not tax-free but tax that are not so high tax. = Brunei, australia, UK bla bla…..then you will say they put high tax on spare parts, high road tax, insurance bla- bla..yeah different country different policy………if only they put say 10 %, 20 % tax only…then we will all be happy to buy proton and perodua. those pakcik and makcik with 2 small kids riding a motorbike risking their lives and the children can also buy a decent car. In brunei, a teacher can afford to have two brand new pajeros and a big house for their family. here a motorbike.
what ever people say here… proton inspira will sell well at more than 2000 unit per month… what ever buyer want to buy vios, city, forte, altis or civic…
for me, this Inspira is better launch than never.. how come to compete with 10 years old model of Waja? so this is the solution.. for proton, ” let the bashers bark by themselves, until they are exhausted and buy your cars finally”..
welcome Inspira, rakyat is waiting for you.. come and join as proton’s family, although you are adopted..
proton win, buyer win.. so win-win…
sorry my english is bad…it’s better to buy the inspira now because the local content is 26%. when the local content is 40% u can feel the inspira is in a lot of trouble….our local vendor works quality is shame…don’t believe me…see u in a year time and test drive 2012 isnpira and compre it with 2011 inspira…good luck
you buy early also same.
look at perdana owner, they feel proud or not? RM90k car for proton inspira.
If rm80k for 2.0= ok. Since they do not have 6 airbag.
80k+ extra 4 airbag= rm90 k forte.
proton trying to rip us off.
But one thing that hope not happening to Inspira…….after a year of using has to send back to Proton due to having common problem like what happening to Perdana, Gen2 and Neo …..
forte now going to have competitor.
city and vios alrea
dy die long time. lousy quality.
It is good job by proton. It will be extra good if financial company (banks) can give to local car buyer same interest rate. It will be much better if the second hand value will maintain like toyota/honda or even perodua.
What happen to Perodua Nautica?
x berbaloi.. baik beli rush..
rege lebih kurang.. top up skit dapat
7 seater..
beli yang original la bagus..
thats exactly what will happen to Inspira.. with a price different of 30K people with money will still go for Mitsu. the soul of the lancer GT are still with Mitsubishi
everyone so obsessed with lotus handling, and they forgotten, who in the world need lotus handling in family cars? thats the reason lotus bankrupt and even british dont want them, and malaysian bought it with our hard earn money.
the only reason fiesta and focus are famous in europe is becos cheap+ handling.
expensive + low quality+ handling=proton
obsessed? boy, u don’t know how important is handling when you do not have stability control and bad road like malaysian’s
hahahaha totally agree with you. You forgot, (+bad excuse to look good to the whole world coz we got own car company.) Since our country is going to be where Vietnam was 10 years ago, I’d to see them rebadge car la, built car la, sell car summore. The fat cows up there already getting ready to leave the country with all the nations money when the shit hits the fan into their 10 million USD villa, while the 99% of us sit here and argue which car is better, Inspira or Vios.
Many people here comment without reading. BACA DULU SEBELUM KOMEN.
“Mitsubishi did not allow Proton to touch the engine and the ECU of the Lancer, so everything is exactly the same as per supplied by Mitsubishi.”
I’m just waiting for the R3 version of it… maybe with added turbo system.. yummy !!
Why only 2 years free servicing?? Better give 20 years free service and warranty!
Inspira? Sounds like Inspirah! Pirah Proton!!! (Get lost Proton!)
you got issue man…who in the hell give twenty year service? even if you own car manufacture company you will not give 10 years warranty.
Bashers like lala are born stupid…just ignore them, lala, go n get your mercedes or camry lah, forget about Proton if you hate it. Just to let you know last week my friends mercedes C200 suddenly burn in the parking area because of short circuit in the fuse box, and you say they have perfect quality…duhhhh
TO Mr. Siput lala …
even BMW M5 headlight also leak, can see the water vapor inside.
No body can do perfect, we just human.
GOD create you perfect, no blood change every 5 year, no kidney change every 10year, no overhaul if lucky u can maybe can life until 80.
sorry to say but typical Malaysians, tak baca article, terus nak bash.
tu la pasal Malaysia tak membangun.
membaca pun malas, tau nak bash and komen merepek je.
I bought a Proton Neo less than a year ago. Suspension system became loose in less than 2 months, need to retighten all screws and bolts. Signal light koyak, dashboard bising like a 20 year old car. Now streering joint also got sound come out. After 25 years I don’t see any improvement. Its not that people are anti-Proton, its Proton themselves that give themselves a bad reputation. And don’t say I am anti Proton….i have been driving Proton/Pdua all my life, cannot afford anything else.
er, dude, there’s consumer right, you can just talk well with proton if some of their SC don’t bother. Why on earth my neo do not give me trouble after 4 freaking years?! even if problem arise, just voice out, when they say no, u convince them otherwise! simple things like these you cant practice?! No wonder consumer right in malaysia is so bad and money lusty traders/pirates love malaysia
Hello la brader. After spending thousand ringgit of his hard earned Ringgit, he has the right to complaint. He is a customer.
People like you who make money lusty traders thrive.
alloo der..
true he got the right to complaint..
but pls use the right channel la..so dat proton can improve..
if u just keep silent..then how proton will knw ur prob…duh!
u must be ‘takpe la’ type of people rite?
Umm… bro Nizam, I think that’s what “untitled” is trying to say. He’s encouraging people to use their rights as consumers to voice out and make complaints should there be anything wrong with their purchase. :)
my neo 3 years dah tak de problem..u just unluck picker..hahaaa
To me….kalau teringin nak pakai Lancer tapi mahal sgt…beli la Inspira. Kalau nak beli Insprira, beli sekarang sebab most of the components still Mitsubishi yang supplied. Later batches maybe local vendor yang provide components nya. Maybe quality wise being compromised sikit la kut. So ada duit, hati kata nak….go on buy it…no matter what people say…at the end of the day….sapa yang nak pakai keta tu? Kita ka depa? Tapi one thing la, expect the unexpected…..nanti tak la berbulu sgt….
everyone can buy a car.
did everyone can maintain the car?
i witness by my own eye, the P/wira use for 8 year without oil change (just top up), the owner never care to take good care even bring to do balancing to the tires.
bcoz u never buy foreign car..i have own honda cty,my father have vios..they all like crap..i have sell that city n buy neo..almost 2 year without any problem..n the part is cheaper..
love proton very much…
take care ur care n they will tke care of you..
last time waja 1.8 renault engine how much? around the same price for 1.8 model rite?
okla, not so expensive compare to perdana. if 2.0 inspira about 80K ++ but perdana 2.0 is 100K ++, better inspira.
dont compare with other brands.
Agak-agak la kan…
kalau beli yang 1.8 (4B10)
JPJ approve tak nak convert ke 2.0T (4B11T) ???
pasai apa jpj tak approve pulak? kalau nak convert engine nissan skylane RB26 ya ler tak approve sebab lebih 30% daripada cc asal. tapi nak convert nak kena tengok jugak cc yang 1.8 tu, exzos depan ke belakang. macam 2.0cc exzos belakang dan trother body depan alaaaaaaa bezanya macam honda civic FD yang 1.8cc dan 2.0cc lah. ada perbezaan di segi kedudukan exzos dan trother bodynya… JPJ tidak akan lulus sekiranya mounting di ubah ataupun dimodifiedkan… sorry bahasa pasembor… sebab cek Penang mai….
paul, you mentioned that you’re torn between the red and black colour…am i correct to imply that you’re gonna book one for yourself too?
Dia pakai bimmer lah!.. buat apa downgrade pulak.
Hahaha it’s a lancer impostor. Real groundbreaking stuff Proton, bravo, I’m uber Inspired.
Hi Paul,
Good write ups!
Just want to highlight one point though… other manufacturers clone without excessive price penalty on non-national cars.
Rgds,
NYC
for whatever reason it is…
Can’t PROTON design it’s own car for the target market it set?
What’s the use of it’s own designer that design satria neo,persona,gen.2, new saga,savvy?
COST wise, is it better to get model and enginge from other car manufacture than to build it’s own?
This New Waja replacement might be a good news for some buyers. Number of sales in the market will show either Proton make the wise move or the other way round.
But either it is a wise or not, it’s not a progress you hope from a 25years old car manufacturer.
Dude, please read THOROUGHLY what does it mean by re-badge thingy…don’t be a typical basher who speaks like no one has brain except YOU.
hi PT
1 im agree with the rebadge startegy
2 what is p1/p2 ? could someone explain tome. looks like im noobies here. hehe
3 is it real mitsi will stop the sedan n only sell hatchbackk after this? im thinking of give my father the inspira n i’ll have the mitsi lancer. [if i had money ennough. hehe]
p1 = proton.
p2 = perodua. aka the car manufacturer yg 100% rebadge other cars but claim National Car manufacturer.
thanks. much appreciate it =)
Come on!.. we can reach 1000 comments on this thread!… just a little bit more to reach 1000 comments!… Everytime Proton’s subject came up sure will generate a lot of comments.
This show Proton is very dear to Malaysian’s heart… (for better or worse)…
why so bising this proton ispira is actually lancer not proton…if waja, yes its total from proton….proton only make front and rear bumper, logo and tweak the suspension…others all mitsui…can consider japanese car…la this proton…
Read the comment from top down… well not all but most of them.
There’re 2 batches of ppl here – one side support one side not regarding the Proton rebadge decision.
I support rebadge. Well, it is a business decision, but definetely a rational one. To cut short the cycle time of product by reducing the cost invest on development. Then put in the resources to the right core model. Besides, as a user, we also got a chance to upgrade the car tech in shorter period when the model roll…
Thanks to those who flag NO to rebagde! They have EGO that i respect. The desire of a national design is obvious, so we can stand up and proudly compare to other nation automotive product. Thumb up! Positive!
In order to acheive that (fullfill our EGO), we need to support Proton on this rebadge, so the financial shooting up and put more $$ in core product.
My 2 cents…
This car should be suitable for those who loves ‘Barangan buatan Malaysia’ but still have some taste for high standard design.
This time proton got it right for re-badge activity.
Zaman sudah berubah….
boleh tahan la…compare dgn kereta lain tp rim agak kurang menarik….lebih cantik rim yg paultan tunjuk dlm gambar (kereta warna merah) seblm ini…..apapun kerana harga yg agak tinggi juga bayaran bulanan mesti tinggi punya….mampu ker rakyat kelas pertengahan kebawah…..
very easy to differentiate a fake lancer ( inspira) and a real lancer
whack these two cars into corners
see which one is more stable , it will be the inspira. LOL
a very good decision of proton to rebadge the lancer and sell at lower price. but in the same time i’m feel pity to the current lancer owner. anyway, different people have different view. if you are going to buy a waja then you will be happy but if u love mitsubishi so much then you will feel dissapointed. overall spec of the new waja offered is par to the mitsubishi ones..
i pity the lancer owners
Please people.. Test the cars before making any good or bad (in the extremities) comments of the car itself.. If it’s as good or bad as you claim it to be.. At least you have some facts to back you up..
On my personal view.. For a car with these engine capacity range and price.. It is not a bad buy.. Just need the respective SCs to follow up closely IF (and I emphasize the word) there is any “so-called-parts-broken-after-short-term-usage”.
A brand of a car is just a name.. What really reflects the name are the quality of the cars made by the maker.. So what if its a Lancer remake/rebadge? If it drives good its a good car.. I would think a lot of those who are dissing this car are those who either have a one track mind about Proton OR have bad experience directly or indirectly with proton cars.. And I don’t blame them.. History has proven itself..
To end it all.. If this car can be as good (or even better) as others at its class/range.. I would gladly make a toast to Proton saying : “Malaysia Boleh!”
Oh yea.. But I still wont buy it.. Sorry Proton..
Paul, the 1.8 Inspira’s weight to power ratio is qutie a concern for me. Compared with the Forte1.6 (few hundred Kg lighter) could you clue us on which is a better drive?
if no more potong = all cars 200% cheaper = happy rakyat!
No potong… car cheaper.. rakyat happy.. izit?… like Thailand izzit?.. lots of manufacturers set up shop there.. rakyat happy izzit?.. Last I heard tembak sana.. tembak sini.. bakar sana.. bakar sini…
The equation is not that simple lah my friend.
Bro, like Bruneiean la. Very happy! Tukar kereta macam tukar baju. Kereta murah dgn cukai minimum
Or.., like Indonesia… no national car also.., lots of foreign manufacturer also… are their rakyats happy?
My point is.., there are two types of people.., people who whine & complaint a lot, or people who are thankful with what they have and make the best use of it.
What type of people are you?
or, no 3, people who are very concern that Proton cannot sale outside the country and thus prolonging the high taxes and duties for imported cars in order to protect Proton in the local market.
Hyundai started producing cars on behalf of Ford in 68. Started their own badge in 75. They really push for foreign market. Example is managed to penetrate US market successfully in 1986. They are lot of issues on quality but the main thing is this, they really push for it for foreign markets.
Once you are successful in foreign market, Malaysian market become so small and insignificant that even if Proton sells 0 cars in local market also no matter.
Benefits are both parties, local Malaysians have more variety of cars to choose from. And at the same time very proud of Proton who would then become one of big players in the market.
bro please open your eyes
dont u think our malaysian cars are not cheap and better yet its made here?
Ps : do not hate me, its just how i feel. peace!
Info searched by scgtimk1:
Price Comparison
Mitsubishi Lancer GT (Thai) = RM106,877.71 THB1,034,000
Toyota Corolla Altis 2.0G (Thai) =RM100,149.24 THB 969,000
Honda Civic 2.0 (Thai) = RM108,608.75 THB 1,051,000.0
Proton Inspira 2.0 = RM96,000 ++
For Price
http://www.toyota.co.th/en/models/Altis/altis_spec.asp
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.th/mitsubishi/model/modellineup.php
http://honda.co.th/th/civic/honda-civic.html
So that Proton SA can be so arrogant again and when going to SC bet you have not had this answer before Proton itu macam lah biasa..
Is difficult for proton to gain back the confidence of the Rakyat with that kind of pricing
am sure there is a lot more choices to choose from unless you are a hard core Mitshu fans and the only models selling well for proton is only the saga…
I will by Lancer GT and put the Proton badge on the nose…
Paul you mention: “The Perdana has stopped production in March 2010 BTW!”
Meaning a new perdana replacement model in the works or this Lancer is proton’s idea in replacing both Waja & Perdana?
Proton has positioned this new Lancer to serve the Lower D and Upper C segments. They will be looking at another badge-engineered model to serve the government’s needs for “state cars” currently served by the Perdana and the stretched Perdana Executive. The “state car” models will not be for sale to public.
I don’t mind another rebadge car for Excutive saloon model. I just find it very very wrong having a streched lancer as “Inspira Excutive” for government agencies. Its just like Waja Chancellor or whatever that thing was. Taking a small car and making it long is downright ugly and pointless. Reminds me of Jeremy Clarkson stretching a Fiat Panda for a limo. I am not sure which University Chancellor uses that waja anyway since all are Perdana V6’s if not the Executive model.
On another note, people can still purchase the Perdana? Proton has “that” much stock still lying around for people to buy?
you can purchase a secondhand Perdana, more worth than buying a new one lol.
Perdana replacement will not be for sale to the public? FUUUUUUUUUUUUU–
they just destroyed my hope :( i wanna see a new generation Perdana sitting beside my dad’s Perdana V6 lol.
And hope so the Perdana replacement iss Based on BMW XD
if I can get one of these la, wallaweiii …
Why u guys keep mocking to Lancer owner like saying pity Lancer owner, 2nd hade value drop la etc. Have u been into their shoes?
With this kind of so call rebadge of Proton, in the name of business and proven design, Proton can rebadge any model they pick. Dont you get? Proton are yet to produce segmen for SUV and luxury cars. Imagine yourself already own new model of CRV, or even BMW or Merc for about 2 years, then suddenly Proton just rebadge, again in the name of business, global player also done it and in teh name of proven design. Will u still say pity to to maybe to yr self, dad etc? Then u will feel how miserable yr life is.
This is why I said although its norm for rebadge but they still have their own “brand essence” or “brand identity, which in this case Proton fail.
Hey, If later in future those kind of SUV, luxury cars are rebadge from Proton and those model not yet sold at time by distributor, I also dont mind buying it. TQ.
Price Comparison
Mitsubishi Lancer GT (Thai) = RM106,877.71 THB1,034,000
Toyota Corolla Altis 2.0G (Thai) =RM100,149.24 THB 969,000
Honda Civic 2.0 (Thai) = RM108,608.75 THB 1,051,000.0
Proton Inspira 2.0 = RM96,000 ++
People who’ll buy Inspira will be getting a proper C segment Car at its true price, even lower than our neighbor country….. I’m tempted
For Price
http://www.toyota.co.th/en/models/Altis/altis_spec.asp
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.th/mitsubishi/model/modellineup.php
http://honda.co.th/th/civic/honda-civic.html
Walau apa pun orang nak kata pasal Proton; saya yang lahir 35 tahun dahulu tetap sukakan dan Proton jadi pilihan no 1 saya untuk beli kereta… then Perodua. Saya tak kisah pasal entiti atau part yang masih lagi belum original Malaysian made sbb saya sendiri pun pakai Levi’s walaupun saya tahu .. ia dibuat di Malaysia dan dihantar ke US untuk branding.
Dan saya fikir tak perlulah nak bandingkan harga tax free kat Langkawi dengan apa yang ada kat Semenanjung yang tak tax ni. Tax ini hak kerajaan untuk jana pendapatan bagi bayar gaji org Malaysia jugak; so saya takde issue di situ.
Saya pakai kasut Adidas; saya sokong Chelsea; saya hisap rokok Dunhill tapi saya masih memilih Proton untuk kereta saya …. kenapa? anda sepatutnya dah tahu. Takkan ada bahasa Malaysia kalau tidak ada saduran bahasa dari Portugis, India, Arab dan sebagainya. Kita juga takkan ada bangunan pencakar langit macam KL Tower andai tiada bangunan lain kat dunia yang jadi rujukan.
Bagi saya; apa pun yang dilakukan oleh Proton – Inspira dengan enjin MIVEC ni mungkin nak jaga pasaran dia … yang saya pasti suatu hari nanti akan ada Lancer kita sendiri .. MIVEC kita sendiri .. kita masih belajar. Jepun pun belajar .. belajar akibat kekecewaan dan kekalahan dalam Perang Dunia kedua. Jadi; mengapa nak boikot nak hentam sebaliknya kita kena usaha bagi cadangan yang lebih baik .. support syarikat tempatan …
Oh ya … saya pakai kasut Adidas … hari2 belasah … tapak dia tercabut juga .. so saya tak nampak pun salahnya kalu ada masalah… ada masalah report la .. saya yakin … Proton takkan nak duduk diam je bila ada komplen .. lain la kalau duk hingar bingar dalam forum … dalam chat .. kutuk sana kutuk sini tapi apa yang anda buat untuk adakan perubahan tu? Jgn tanya apa Proton buat untuk anda dalam kualiti .. tapi apa yang anda sumbangkan kepada Proton untuk tingkatkan kualiti.
p.s: Orang Jepun tak pulak nak menempelak produk mereka walaupun gagal … tapi terus dan terus berusaha untuk buat dan jadikan terbaik.
good point mr hasrulhassan
this type of person what malaysia needs to grow more, not like pity basher who keep complaining but yet contribute nothing.
Bayangkan kereta yang bernilai RM 50, 000 dijual dengan harga RM 120,000. Kita rakyat Malaysia terpaksa buat loan bank untuk bayar harga kereta dan cukai yang dikenakan. Semua ini kerana nak jaga Proton. Jadi jangan tanya apa sumbangan anda kepada Proton, pinjaman bank berpuluh-puluh ribu inilah sumbangan kita. Tidak kira sama ada kita beli kereta Proton atau kita beli kereta import, yang penting semua daripada kita telah menyumbang secara langsung dan tidak langsung kepada Proton. Setelah 25 tahun bersusah payah loan bank untuk bayar nilai kereta yang tak sepatutnya kita bayar kalau tiada Proton. Akhirnya Proton mengkhianati kita dengan menghasilkan kereta “rebadge” Proton Inspira demi atas nama keuntungan dan kebanggaan negara. Kalau setakat nak “rebadge” kereta import dan kemudian mengaku kereta nasional tak perlu ambil masa 25 tahun dan tak perlu menipu rakyat Malaysia selama 25 tahun. Tutup saja Proton dan biarkan semua kereta dijual dengan nilai sebenar. Selama 25 tahun kami terpaksa bersusah payah membeli dan membuat loan untuk nilai kereta yang tidak sepatutnya. Apabila kami komplen kata tak patriotik, habis yang hampa khianati harapan kami tu patriotik, demi negara dan berbagai alasan lagi.
Tokai,
Rebadge tu kan strategi untuk jadikan Proton untung balik…
Cuba baca betul-betul post yang Paul Tan tulis tu, buat penat je dia tulis ko tak baca sampai habis lepas tu nak cakap ko dikhianati…
Lain kali kalau dah tak mampu nak pakai kereta mahal pakai je apa yang ada…ini tak selera besar tapi duit tak mampu nak sediakan, lepas tu nak komen itu ini.
What a typical ‘Biar papa asal bergaya’.
true..true..typical basher..most of bashers here got no money but want to drive big cars..if other countries are so cheap, why cant we see everyone driving sportcars to work???? because there are other taxes and chargers la DUHH!!! its a no brainer..most of these bashers havent ever been to foreign countries and theybash like they’ve lived there for years!!! duh
Ok la. Dari kita bergaduh dlm forum ini, seterusnya nak tengok dua benda sajer:
1. Baper unit boleh jual dlm negara.
2. Baper unit boleh jual luar negara
MD Proton kata nak sasarkan pasaran luar negara gak. Cakap byk pun tak guna kalau keputusan sales x seberapa.
proton sepatutnya dah lama sasar overseas market. they should have managed to get at least 60-75% of their production capacities sold to export market. but for the past 25 years malaysia has been their biggest supporter. and this is why protection is still necessary from the govt to prevent proton from collapsing.
a walk in the park? i say proton is still crawling like a baby. cannot stand on their own.
yes, i am proud of malaysia having our own national car but it did not serve its purpose as intended.
rebadging is a good exercise, but selling them at such a price is a no-no. what is their target market?
cant wait to see InspiraLution on Malaysian road…
The people who are normally buying Proton are those middle income earners who dont mind spending around RM 60k for a car.
But this rubbish car that Proton has made here costs RM 79k for the manual.
And not many ppl will take manual ,so its RM 80k + for the auto CVT 1.8 Proton.
Come on Proton,you think ppl will fork out RM 80k + for a Proton badge? Its ridiculous to spend that kinda amount of $$ for a PRoton.
Ppl who have that spending power will not opt for a PRoton.Come on,why drive a Proton when you can have a Honda or Toyota?
Its much better and you get a peace of mind for years to come.BUy a Proton,and you suffer from their stupid lousy SC.Their TIDAK APA attitude.
So yaya,the car looks great ,has nice handling,good engine.But then again,it has been ruined by rebadging it a Proton.
THe Lancer GT was already a rubbish car,this Inspira is a greater piece of junk !
Obtw,I am never buying another Proton.You guys can go and get conned by those ‘people’ up there.
you’re right and you’re wrong! right because rakyat has no confidence in Proton the brand . wrong because whoever wants to get a Lancer GT will now opt for Proton Inspira because of the pricing and the difference for the first batch is 25% from the original Mitsu. geddit!?
Totally agree with you. What’s the point after more than 20 years still copying other car manufacturer! Bought Lotus so what?? Did you see any improvement or the Proton engineers that were trained there went and “makan angin”?? as long as Government continues to protect Proton nothing will ever change. Talk about too expensive to design a new car. Its the mentality that the engineers have or rather the limitations. I remember a few years back Proton had more than RM1 Billion in reserve, what happen to it?? Build a Proton Excellence center?? For what when there’s nothing to shout about. The one and only Proton Saga I had when through so much of maintenance (not forgetting the so called ori spare parts) but still it was a shitty car. The only thing which complies was the 10 years warranty for rust. Very true exactly after ten years it started to rust! And where Proton export to?? Third world countries where there’s no competition? If you can break through tough market like Japan and Korea then only start praising. Even China cars are selling well here and they only started their automotive industry not too long ago. Tidak apa attitude will never change
alo brader…dont talk rubbish la…actually your attitude need to change, what action you take to change their attitude? just talking? talking cant do anything la…i hope proton will give a position for this people…then we see what this people can do…
Bravo, u r right, bro. Well said. Clap Clap! Inspira is crap!
Why pay RM80K plus for a Proton when u can buy a Honda or Toyota with RM80K plus?
go and get 80K H&T cars and compare with Proton car? If you never drive Proton car before don’t talk sh+t laa.
Protan has improve compare to 10year before.
think what the “malaysia” already give to the whole your life? Got mortar explode behind your back yard?
improved?hehe..my gen2 campro is the lousinest of all!!!!i suffer…3rd year of using it..until i want to sell it also i suffer coz nobody want to buy it..if want to buy..at a very low price..i have to top up some to the bank…improved haa?
see…. your attitude is actually the main problem here…
you said you never bought any proton cars, then how come you give such unfair comment?
if you said made in malaysia is no good, then where r u made from???
think yourself laa….
Proton’s past record is well known…they claimed to have improved…we’ll have to see…they have to prove it…
In the meantime…95% of the Inspira is a Mitsu Lancer…so I going to see it as a CKD Lancer as opposed to a CBU Lancer (GT/EX) for now…Lancer is an awesome car…I know…I own one…I bought it cos it’s one of the cheapest 2.0 CBU Japan cars available in Malaysia…so if the Inspira is 95% Lancer, then it’s going to be a great car too…
It doesn’t bother me…if Mitsu is not going to be able to sell anymore Lancers in M’sia…it’s their own fault…it doesn’t bother me too much (I admit I worry a little) about the resale value…as I am not planning to sell it in the immediate future…I think I can benefit from the cheaper parts, if any though…
It doesn’t bother me…if there’s lots of Inspira on the road…like I said the Lancer is awesome…so the Inspira is an acknowledgment of that…why stop people from getting a good car…albeit a CKD…hehehe
It doesn’t bother me…if Proton and Mitsu Japan is making tons of money…that’s what they are there for…it is the nature of the beast…or company…to make profits…
If anything bothers me at all…it’s when some people are blindly calling the Inspira a M’sian car…it’s not…it’s a Lancer CKD…it bothers me that people call Proton a National Car Maker…what has it benefited the rakyat?…anyone got a bonus from Proton?…maybe only the shareholders…and you have to pay for the shares…all I got from Proton is higher taxes on my right to choose other cars…other marques are expensive cos Proton needs protection…by the way…I include all other ‘National Car Makers’ in this…
Proton is not like national athletes like Nicol David or others who bring glory to the nation by their attitude and perseverance…Proton is a money making machine…so what if it’s a M’sian owned company?…so is the Yong Tau Fu business down the road…or the many cottage industries in the kampungs run by honest folks…we don’t call them National Yong Tau Fu…or Karipap…or Jamu Makers right?
As a Lancer owner…I welcome the Inspira (Lancer CKD)…it should be a good car…provided Proton don’t cut corners and foul it up…as it did before…
get your fact right..
this is typical malaysian mentality, want everything, dont want to give anything.
how hyundai become success and be a money making company? korea banned all imported cars..
you want this happen here? create your own party, and develop the country as you wish. i’ll vote for you because you sounded so smart.
percayalah cakap saya kalau proton meletakkan harga 80k untuk 1.8 dan 95k untuk 2.0 maka orang akan beli mitsubishi lancer GT original yang harganya hanyalah lebih 10k dan interesnya yang lebih rendah daripada interest harga kereta proton. orang akan memikir value for money. akhirnya model Inspira ini akan menjadi kereta seperti Tiara dan Savvy.
Baguslah kalau Inspira jadi macam Tiara.
Mitsubishi tak guna!
i 200% agree with u bro..
we will see…
Eleh… Exora dulu pon cakap camni gak, xde orang nak beli la apa la.. Last2 banyak gak orang beli… At least 3 orang sepupu aku dah beli… jiran2 aku lak ade la dalam 6-7 orang dah pakai, Setakat ni Exora mpv paling banyak kat apartment aku ni, no 2 livina, 3 Unser…. Alza pon ade gak, tapi sebijik je.. tu pon ayah dia guna Exora…
I think MMC has screwed themselves over on this. They should’ve told Proton ‘Ok, you can have the Lancer but only the 1.8 M/T & CVT. Put in whatever extras you want. The 2.0 will stay as Mitsubishi’.
But they didn’t. Now, will anyone ever buy a passenger car from MMC again?
same thoughts with you there.
…it’s going to be funny…when I go abroad..and see that car… I start debating with people…it’s a PROTON, not a Mitsubishi… Malaysia made it!!!…ahahahaha….sucha joke.
..”errr…which part?”…”the logo there”.
hey next time you go abroad, just remember where you from, now thats a joke…
i believe you driving perodua myvi malaysia made car too..
not
hehe i think the MMC have another business strategy hehe well now proton have already rebadge the lancer gt, then now its the time for MMC to bring in the new model Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback into msia. Hehe. So later which one will ppl buy? if suppose the MMC bringing in the Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback early next year? hmmmmm…..
And if Proton decides to rebadge the Sportback 1 year after that? Mati kudasai. :-)
Paul,
Has Proton bettered the insulation as compared to the Lancer which had significant NVH (incl. tyre noise)?
why are you people bashing each other?
it’s their rights if they want to buy it..who are you to judge?
you have your own preferences…others have their own preferences…do you think that everyone in the world has the same..its a matter of taste..
its like one having a girlfriend/boyfriend, while the others are saying his/her girlfriend/boyfriend is one ugly human being..to you,he/she might look ugly..but to the person himself/herself..he/she might look beautiful…
imagine if you are married..to you, your wife/husband is the most handsome/beautiful person…but people says that your wife/husband looks like an animal..how would you feel?
your taste is your taste…others are others…
a lot of ppl is gonna “rebadge” proton emblem back to mitsubishi’s…
The thing is, this car is a bargain compare to other cars in its “CLASS”, and for all of you H & T lovers, you just been owned because you bought your car at the wrong time HAHA, i bet you that Vios and City owners will potong this car at the highway just because to make them feel better he3 just watch…and to those city and vios owners, at least now proton have a car that looks exactly in the need for speed games, heheh cant wait to get my INSPIRA, and kasi make up mcm dlm game huahuahuahauhau, 1.8 is good enough wat, mivec lagi tu…city with its SOHC engine and Vios with that dumb look…..kih sedih kalu fikir nasib korang…
agree bro… cuba tengok vios trd version tu.. xde apa yg boleh dibanggakan.. 92K++ for TRD version, if me, totally go for Inspira. Nothing to proud with vios trd… some funny part, if they are really good observer, they will find some part on P2 Alza share the same part as vios.
try dulu baru komen. kalau takat sticker je tulis 1.8 atau 2.0, tapi prestasi macam kereta import 1.5, lupakan saja. mungkin insan yg tak pernah miliki kereta import yg baru takkan dapat merasai nikmat belian yg sebenar. sokongan terhadap barangan tempatan memang perlu tapi sampai bilakah rakyat harus dimomok dengan kualiti dan harga yg tak realistik. individu pintar adalah individu yg mampu menilai metafizik dan epistemologi setiap fakta. moga pengurusan proton yg ada berusaha membangunkan tenaga kerjanya agar kualiti dan reliabilti proton dapat ditingkatkan. so, fikir2kanlah. jangan kita syok sendiri. kawan2 guna kereta sampai 10 tahun tiada masalah, tapi jangan kita baru setahun dua, power window tak leh guna, enjin lak jam dan bila nak claim, gerentinya hanya setahun. itu le pengalaman pak sedara aku yg baru dua tahun guna pesona. mudah2an pembeli inspira jangan le ditimpa musibah yg sama, maklum le harganya pun mesra rakyat., mesra pengguna. jom kita ramai2 booking cepat. tapi aku dak le …….. ha, ha, ha……
Alo bro.. Ayah aku guna Gen-2 first batch, sampai sekarang baru rosak power window kiri, tu pon sekali je, dah setel.. Lain2 x rosak pon, mantap lagi.. Aku pecut atas highway senang2 je leh dapat 180km/h(bukan selalu, saja nak test tengok).. Auto tu… Teksi ayah aku, Proton saga tahun 1992, sampai sekarang mantap…. Ko cakap sticker 1.8,2.0 tapi prestasi 1.5.. Wat the heck… Ni engine ori mitsubishi… Bahkan mitsubishi x bagi proton sentuh atau tukar apa2 kat engine ni.. Engine ni sama 100% dengan Mitsubishi Lancer GT.. Power pon sama, Tapi handling proton dah tambah baik… Suspensi dah upgrade… Ko gebang boleh la, menilai metafizik dan epistemologi setiap fakta la apa la.. Nanti mesti ko cakap aku ni pernah nek keta proton ja, xpernah nek keta jepun, so xtau la bertapa hebatnya keta jepun.. Xpe bro.. Aku memang x pakai keta jepun pon(tapi masa sekolah dulu aku guna Nissan sunny1.3, ada lagi).. Aku pakai Peugeot…. Handling lagi sedap dari camry, power lagi best dari keta jepun, Bentuk lagi sporty dari Accord… Tapi walopon aku ada keta europe, tiap kali aku naik keta proton, aku rasa bangga…
Ape jadah nyer sticker 1.8 prestasi 1.5?iswara aku 1.3 karburator tapi prestasi mcm 1.5…hheheheh, weh yg beli kete ni mmg dari golongan muda, x pedulik dgn metamorforsis dan fotosintesis fakta, ade duit beli , xde duit x yah, mmg budak yg beli kete ni dah fikir sport rim ape dia nak tukar….kalau dah minat x leh watpe..
I like driving MANUAL. I like lancer a lot. I keep wondering, where got MANUAL transmission lancer?? owh, proton has it now..
bro, kalau ganti inspira ni ke sportrim 18′ lancer ade effect kat handling dia nanti tak?
paul, sy ade 1 soalan..ape saiz rim dan tayar utk 1.8 dan 2.0..dan juga saiz rim ape yg paling besar boleh muat pada kereta inspira ni..trm ksh
ya, it’s common for da current auto industry to rebadge the car. But consumer get it at much cheaper price. If proton want to save cost on r&d, then what is the purpose for squeezing the money (with blood and sweat) from rakyat and they learn nothing after…3 decades.
bro, didn’t you read the review??!!
they made it better la bro…
did you one of them?
hope they will rebadge the EVO X and make it cheaper.
If the 2.0 litre is sold at RM 97k, if you add another RM 19k, you can get a Japan CBU made Mitsubishi Lancer at RM 116k !
But the LANCER CBU without LOTUS HANDLING wor.
19k still a lot of money~ ;p
lower quality, proton badge, locally made, just to save RM 19k is not worth… another rip off product from proton !
p/s please compare apple to apple (i.e. 2.0litre to 2.0 litre and dont compare 1.8)
saya menjual emblem / logo mitsubishi dgn harga yang berpatutan:
1. Logo front grill silver RM89.99
2. Logo front grill red RM120 (ala Type-R)
3. “Mitsubishi Lancer” for rear RM99.99
4. Logo for steering RM20
harga termasuk upah mencabut logo Proton dan memasang logo Mitsubishi.
sila ke kedai saya di taman puchong permai jaya berdekatan pangsapuri kos rendah seri puchong.
Good one ….. hahaha
i bet you sell kia and hyundai emblem too…..
Bro, apa benda nak lekat kat aku punya grandis supaya nampak macho skit?
dont worry so much about the re-badging… coz after buying the car.. you will see owners re-re-badging to mitsu..
As for the lancer, front bumpers!!! .. Inspira must have item… ;)
the current waja has HID front lights…hw bout this model…it’s a shame if proton drops a good future of the old model and go back to the old technology to the newer model………
Ya, agreed. How can they start taking order without clarify what kind of specification the buyer will get?
Example: If 2.0 model is with HID, TCS, Leather Seat, then I think is worth the money to get the 2.0 instead of 1.8A (if without)
Any even LANCER GT is without TCS and HID. (Am I right?)
Lepas ni proton boleh rebadge pula Grandis dengan alasan nak concentrate core model . Guna sahaja alasan Exora untuk 1.6 model tapi Grandis 2.0L. Kemudian war war kan lah yang itu kereta Nasional. What the Shame. Kerana proton lah rakyat malaysia membazir duit bayar tax yang tak masuk akal untu dapatkan kereta yang berkualiti.
want to ask…the proton inspira uses GEMA engine. Is this engine the same as the one use in Rondo??…anybody can answer
i believe it is similar…
haiya.. you go back and learn to read first, its already well explained by mr paul tan up there. pity you caveman
common la guys…sekurang2nya Proton improve…aku pakai Proton Savvy dah nk masuk 4 tahun n xdk masalah besar pun…janji pandai jaga…handling savvy lagi sedap dari handling vios..Aku pernah drive k..so jgn la korang nak kutuk mengutu plak…kalo korang x suka just shut up…kalo korang rasa best sgt wat syarikat sendiri n reka keta sendiri…senang cita…x pyh nak kecoh2 kat sini…mcm mana pun aku tetap berbangga dgn kemajuan Proton…
Memang savvy handling memang ok lah… tapi masalah Enjin terlalu teruk dan spare part pun mahal… Sekarang savvy dah x ade dalam pasaran Proton sebab terlampau byk masalah…. Lepas tu savvy second hand value jatuh teruk… Aku bukan nye tak nak support Proton…malah aku berbangga Malaysia ada kereta sendiri…. Tapi harga kereta kena lah murah drpd keta Import….
Ko ade pakai savvy ke bro??? Weh… jgn cakap ikut sedap je..cakap ikut pengalaman la.. housemate aku pakai savvy ok je… Xde masaalah pon.. sparepart murah je… Aku pon dulu masa nak beli Peugeot takut gak sebab orang selalu cakap sparepart mahal, keta problem.. Tapi bila aku pakai… Fuhh.. Wa cakap sama lu.. Mantap bhai… Takat camry ngan accord tu xyah belagak la… 407 3 kali lagi baik… sparepart setakat ni lagi murah dari honda… jgn kata 407, 405 pon aku ada… Bahkan 405 aku pon lagi sedap dari current camry k0 tau… handling memang supert.. Engine memang tahan.. sparepart kalo main terjah memang mahal, tapi kalo ko buat dekat kedai yg memang speceialist ngan peugeot dan citroen… Murah wa cakap lu… Lagi murah dari barang honda… Mahal sikit je dari waja..
yes, aku pun setuju. Walaupun aku bermasalah ngan neo aku yg sempit, aku masih lagi sayang sebab handling yg mantap. Takat City ngan vios punya handling tu… takpayah nak dibanggakan.
a good move by Proton!! this car will b a hit!! bye bye to city n vois!!!
hahaha…wait til u go for service and the truckload of neverending problems of all Potong cars begins with InsPIRAH….
ya man……… such a high tech car and i dont think proton guys are up to it.. further more small problem ask you leave the car for a few days and you die when they show you the invoice………..
My deepest condolences to Lancer owner…I feel you bro!!
don’t just rely on the physical appearance, pity you after 2 or 3 years will facing common problems as what had happened. low quality is the never ending story for proton. so, be smart.
pity to inspira owner also…org akan bandingkan ngan real lancer..pastu ckp..laaaa..proton rupanya..cit!!
Wow….Inspira…love the Lancer but can’t afford it…hope to save up enuf to buy the 1.8 Inspira..drooling man…Thank you for making it affordable proton!!! Tell you the car looks fast even when its standing still..zooom….
re-badged new waja inspira is good for everybody for us in Malaysia.
BUT my personal point of view …hem a bit not fair to those owner’s
for mitsubishi lancer. Whole body almost 90% copy and paste to inspira….
May b in the future we can have INOKOM SONATA sell at RM 100k and INOKOM TUCSON sell at RM 95k. Then Malaysian can have more choice. NAZA Sportage at RM 90k (the new model), any buyer?
Nothing in this world is fair, your money, your choice,
VIOS/CITY/MAZDA 2 selling at nearly RM 90k still have many buyers, how much it cost in Thailand? Is it fair to Malaysian to pay such a high price for a 1.5L car? But seen like a lot of happy buyer out there and kept on bashing Inspira. :).
yes!! i can see a lot of inspira cum evo X roving the street after this! modified plus turbo / evo X bodykit / wing / etc…just like our wiralution / wajalution community :)
they will change to this model…keta wira / waja 5-10 years ago payment already settled maaa…its time to play with new ride :)
bravo proton! malaysia boleh!!
no automotive designer in malaysian ?????
Poor for proton…
My point of view is that this entity should never exist…after more than a decade in the market be it local and foreign, still it seldom find its way to develop and expend, i never proud of it because it was built out of greed rather then good, all the words came out from are just to please the top dog and to maintain their status quo in this sicken ship. The new model is the latest cameo by the incompetent brand named ?. Trying to make a quick buck by cheating the public. It just like a day light robbery. Creating a euphoria without any concrete reason as to why they refurbish other brand. I love my country but i hate being cheated by my fellow countrymen especially those who walk in the corridor of Power….
It brings more harm than good to the country’s automotive market, survive the market by imposing massive tariff to the import cars for just to be looks competitive in its own backyard is seems stupid rather than smart. Every financial institutions were circulated to loose their strictness for car financing in order to make its looks ‘competitive’. Impose slightly higher interest than imported car for its to be ‘competitive’ still in the its own playing field…moving the goal post whenever they like just to prevent others from keep scoring because it does not have a good player, current line-up is just a political appointed in protecting their own’s stake in it. Slowly deteriorated and it is beyond repairable. Together we storm the Bastille.
ok la not bad…
I don’t understand the some of the people in this website. First of all, they dont read the posts made by Mr Paul who was trying to explain Proton’s move for re-badging the Proton Waja.
And some also complain about the name of it being Inspira as opposed to Waja. I mean, come on, this is not one of the focus models as you can see from Paul’s explanation. When it comes to model names, I’m sure some of you like the name Inspira, and some like the name Waja, so I doubt they can please all of you.
Whats important is that, Proton made available to us public a Lancer that is more Affordable and maybe better handling compared to the original (Lotus). What more can we ask? They are just giving us another option when it comes to a C-Segment car. Or to some people, another option when it comes to the 75-95K bracket (B-C Segment). There’s nothing wrong in that right?
When it comes to cars, its either you don’t like the design, or you love to stick to your own brand. So, stop the abuse, if you don’t like it, just ignore this post then instead of saying your car is better.
Proton, do us proud and make sure the old failures don’t come haunting again like the old power window story as well as after sales. With them at bay, i believe you would be able to hit your target with no issues.
Sape yang nak nama WAJA sangat tampal sajalah nanti, yang nak sangat logo mitsubishi pun boleh tukar juga, suka hati korang lah. Janji pakai sedap sudahlah.
Haiz Mitsu Lancer already copied Alfa Romeo taillight now Proton copied it again in its new model…ALFA ROMEO forevers!!
engin dia pakai timing change ke timing belt?
timing chain ok? hahaha
in the end, malaysian public is facing the take it or leave it option. all losers. proton wins.
nice car since most of it’s from mitsu…poor current lancer owners though…and the person who designed the rims should be shot!!! FUGLY!!!
This one definitely going to be top seller.
Whether quality good or not so perfect, it has all the winning factors with modern Japan tech.
Feel sad for Lancer buyers but then again, theirs are CBU so that is a consolation.
No need to say, the new Inspira will have it’s own initial teething problems.
The real winner by a small margin is actually Mitsubishi.
This will be the best proton car ever..as long as the engine is in it’s ori form I bet this car is much worth the price…
Happy to hear that Proton remains abt 85% of the parts from MMC. Good to see proton tuned their suspentions with Lotus RH. lets wait to see and feel in the showrooms.. :)
Aku rasa harga Rm 80k 1.8 manual mahal lah… kalau RM 69k ok lah sikit… Murah lak Exora MPV Rm 68k .. kalau mcm tu baik beli Exora .. ramai lg boleh naik… Aku pun heran ,Selepas 10 thn Proton Waja keluar… kenapa Dia org amik model Mit Lancer jd Replacement Waja… Apa Selama 10 thn ni RD Proton tak de pikir ke mcm mana buat Replacement Waja…. Setakat Tukar Lambang je … Inokom dan Naza je selalu buat.. Ini Proton dah 25 thn dlm Industri Keluar kan kereta Nasional… tup tup jd mcm ni..
ko punya soalan ni dah lama di bincangkan.. paul sendiri ada tulis\
Paul Tan says:
13/10/2010 at 6:36 pm
I’ll explain in my story, but it’s a “case by case” rebadge strategy, same as every other global manufacturer’s strategy. There’s no ‘shame’ to it
harap ko faham.. malas nak layan soalan mcm ni lg..
Ala bhai.. ni bukan waja replacement da.. Ni model baru… Waja dah ditamatkan pengeluaran danx disambung atau diganti mana2 model.. Yg bab rebadge ni pulak, bukan Prpton x buat Rnd, tapi model ni ambik mitsubishi sebab nin bukan core model proton.. proton target jual 1600 buah je sebulan.. so, kalo nak buat rnd memang x berbaloi… Proton buat model baru, tapi untuk model yg boleh dapat balik modal.. Macam inspira ni, proton buat just untuk isi gap yg ditinggalkan oleh persona dan perdana.. lepas ni perdana baru lak keluar.. pastu proton tengah devalop model baru untuk replace persona.. Pihak pengurusan proton dah cakap.. lepas ni , setiap kereta proton, lifecycle dia cuma 5 tahun ja… Macam Inspira ni, Proton pon bukan buta2 ja rebadge.. Dalam deal ngan mitsubishi, proton ambik lancer, mitsubishi lak akan rebadge exora ngan persona untuk pasaran afrika.. So win2 situation.. Dan proton pon bukan ambhik bulat2.. cuma engine ngan body ja x sentuh, handling, suspension,nagn sistem penyejukan gearbox dah buat lain.. Paultan sedniri cakap hangdling Protong lagi bagus dan lagi selesa dari Lancer GT…
pandailah kamu, boleh jadi pembantu kepada Paul, sebab dia dah jelak nak terang perkara ini.
Proton kini dah bijak tiru sikit macam produa, focus on core models.
And more importantly not to waste much money for a non-core products. This segment is important to continue its flagship otherwise the total volume will drop further in future.
proton mmg pikir nak replace waja. tapi kos pelaburan terlalu tinggi. masa nak buat waja dulu mereka dah belanjakan RM1bilion, kemudian buat enjin campro belanja lagi RM1bilion. sekarang ni waja hanya dijual 300 unit sebulan. berbaloi ke tak…? Proton hanya rebadge untuk model yg sikit jualanya.. contohnya: waja, perdana, dan mungkin satria utk masa akan datang. untuk model yang laris macam saga dan persona (lebih 4000 unit sebulan), mereka develop sendiri.
senang cakap, macam ni la.. ko tinggal kat rumah berdua je (husband & wife), dan satu hari ko terasa nak makan karipap… untuk mendapatkan 4 biji karipap tu, ko akan buat sendiri (beli tepung, kentang, majerin dan sebagainya, pastu spend berjam-jam uli tepung, potong kentang), atau beli je kat warung tepi jalan? kalau family ko besar, ada anak sampai 6-7 orang mungkin lebih jimat buat sendiri, tapi kalau berdua je?
macam tu la ceritanya di proton. kalau setakat nak jual kurang dari 2000 unit sebulan, tak berbaloi spend beratus juta bro!
hang org proton ker? dipm maner yer.. maner la tau aku kenal ker..
hehehe.. bukan. takde kaitan langsung dengan proton. i’m just driving a proton car.
tapi kalau karipap tu sedap, bolehlah offer kat jiran-jiran, lama-lama boleh buka warung kat depan rumah, nanti aku tumpang pau aku sekali…
Nice…. Mantap komen ni… Perbandingan yg sangat simple tapi cukup logik dan x dapat dibangkang…
Kenapa lah tak baca article dulu sebelum nak komen? Penatlah orang susah payah tulis, lepas tu bagi komen budak kecik! :-( . Memalukan bangsa, macam tak reti bahasa inggeris…….
80k for vios dugong??? then i rather buy ISUZU D-MAX 2.5L T/DIESEL 4X2 (M) for just rm73,675.30… So can you say this is fair comparison??? You will call me stupid coz compare pickup truck with ur dream car(vios)… then i can say that, d-max also 5 seater meh… bigger than vios.. though than vios…
Kamon la… This Proton Inspira ix for surely much2 more better than vios.. Even Persona is better than vios.. U said that persona got a lot of prob lem… So u buy persona for 40-50k only meh.. use 10k to change the part and repair it also can makeup it at ahbeng.. Still u pay 20k less that t dugong…
Proton should have save some $ with the test drive and just asked the journalists to refer back to the Lancer TD
ok..ok..wait..chill everybody..nak tanya sket je..memandangkan belum gi tgk kat showroom lg.. i just wanna ask whether there’s any dynamic stability control (DSC), traction control, DTC, ESP & others? rasa2nya penting tu untuk kereta2 zaman sekarang..
Hey guys you all say proton mahal dan quality tak bagus….you nak quality bagus bayar lebih lah….you all faham kan costing untuk satu kereta berkualiti dan juga tetap murah….dan you tengok dia punya engine capacity 1.8 dengan 2.0…and masa apply loan dia punya interest i dapat 3.55% sebab sekarang bukan local car ataupun continental sekarang mereka tengok cc
Hey guys you all say proton mahal dan quality tak bagus….you nak quality bagus bayar lebih lah….you all faham kan costing untuk satu kereta berkualiti dan juga tetap murah….dan you tengok dia punya engine capacity 1.8 dengan 2.0…and masa apply loan dia punya interest i dapat 3.55% sebab sekarang bukan local car ataupun continental sekarang mereka tengok cc….You tak beli jangan simply assume…
RM80K to RM100K, boleh laa.. tapi kenapa proton tak buat mcm honda, for loan interest boleh dpt below 3% for new cars…
mmg minat inspira nih, sbb aku mmg minat lancer GT tu…RM123K beb…then down to 100K. try to get it next year.
Proud to be Malaysian…
Hope soon, we could say this car 100% Made in Malaysia
Everytime Proton come out with new models, sure got lot of stupid bashers that talking crap here…Langkawi is a free duty zone,pakai lah otak sebelum cakap…Yang satu lagi pulak duduk bising pasal kualiti…hooi,u dah pernah cuba ke?Sedih betul dgn puak-puak “pembangkang” ni…
Finally
Proton comes up with a car within the 1.8 and above range.
1. They’ve been with 1.6’s too long
2. They only had the 2.0 engine on the perdana & sad Chancellor.
3. The idea of rebadging the Lancer is a good nor bad idea.
Pros:
– Like what was said business, New Market: Less investment
– i believe the engine of choice is a great choice, with some new tech coming in hopefully it can spark something new.
Cons:
– The idea of actually having alot of physical looks similar to Lancer. Makes you think why arrr..
– With Mitsu restricting proton engineers to fiddle with the engine and gearbox setup,
hmm, guinea pigs?!
Uncertain:
– Referring to all their models, Proton has some car accessories issues, let’s hope
they get something right.
Overall:
I suggest a 7 1/2 out of 10
*positive feedback to Proton for introducing a new model for this class of cars.
* Please Please Please use better quality and longer life span Accessories.. It’s like a plague for their cars.
ini contoh rakyat yang pandang ke hadapan dan memiliki moral yang baik untuk maju..
-ve thinking will lead you to nowhere..
Hopefully Proton won’t let us down with Inspira if they really intend for it to be a “place holder” model to keep Proton in a required market segment until it has the resources to develop a permanent solution to serve the segment. Looking forward to see more innovative cars with Proton’s own design.
Some comments (in here or facebook) are so stupid I do not know whether to cry or to laugh… I feel pity to these ignorant morons.
Is thr any differences in the B11 engine. Does it come with MIVEC for Proton ver?
this is probably a good trial product from proton, i hope p1 can maintain their high quality finishing job rather than make us suffer, the team pls keep up the hard working spirit to make us m’sian proud. keep moving p1.
dulu RM80k dpt 1.5 Vios n City. Skrg RM80K dpt 1.8 Inspira aka Lancer. Tulah agaknya Proton basher marah sgt. ;)
Apa pun pilihan di tangan anda. :)
abang memang tepat…..alah biar mereka cakap aje lah tentang proton….mereka ingat honda/toyota tak buat macam ini… proton basher beli proton masa proton problem tapi tak bagi chance sekali lagi….there is always a second chance….
Vios and City tahun demi tahun naik harga walaupun cukai kereta Asia Tenggara turun setiap tahun. Itupun tak perasan asyik nak marah kerajaan tapi sebenarnya T & H untung berganda2 dan masih puji melangit.
hello bro n sis..what ever u choose ur favour car, either cheap nor expensive..go throught test drive first..when u strart de engine,u must feel de engine wether smooth of some thing different compare ur old car..felling in ur hearth bleedind wit smooth..dont so rush like heart attack.the car like as a your self.what ever u choose proton,peroduo or etc u must hear de engine..not stlye..but remember..do not use bicylce on the hi way road o busy road cos might be risk ur life..no insurans no waranty and no beautiful life..maybe kubur can help 4 u..
Paul, will all variants get BCM (Body Control Module)? How about EBD or BA?
Proton is giving customers the opportunity to own a Lancer for a cheaper price and what do some people do? They complain.
Typical Malaysians.
Yup…thanks to Proton for giving us the opportunity to own a cheap Lancer…but wait…isn’t Proton the one that caused the taxes for cars to be high too? So that we can’t buy anything cheaper unless Proton sells them?
Never mind, we shouldn’t complain. We should be thankful to Proton. After all, they have taken so much of the people’s money to develop new engines and cars and then do a rebadge to make even more money for themselves.
Yup…thanks Proton…for distributing your profits every year to Malaysians…and building better and safer cars for us to use…cause we don’t have any choice to buy any other cars due to the high prices…
Thanks Proton…we owe you lots…
Yup…thanks to Proton for giving us the opportunity to own a cheap Lancer…but wait…isn’t Proton the one that caused the taxes for cars to be high too? So that we can’t buy anything cheaper unless Proton sells them?
Never mind, we shouldn’t complain. We should be thankful to Proton. After all, they have taken so much of the people’s money to develop new engines and cars and then do a rebadge to make even more money for themselves.
Yup…thanks Proton…for distributing your profits every year to Malaysians…and building better and safer cars for us to use…cause we don’t have any choice to buy any other cars due to the high prices…
Thanks Proton…we owe you lots…hahaha
Congratulations to Proton
It suits with our wish:
Japan tech+lotus R&H+malaysian Price$..
Cuma kalau ikut kata bashers, aku rasa MMC plak yg kesian.
Coz dia go ‘backward’ ngan Proton Exora rebadged n jual berjuta2 unit kat Jepun, etc!
from what i read, Mitsu would rebadge Persona & Exora for South America market (Brazil, Argentina, Mexico etc)… not for japan market.
Mitsubishi should never be trusted anymore. Never buy their Triton, Grandis and even their aircon! One day they will betray you like what happen to all the poor Lancer owners! It’s like your wife sweet talk to you before marriage, turn and look for your neighbour after 2 years !
sore loser!
I pity you. Now go play somewhere else.
peh, banyak tol komen.
bro2 sekalian, ada yang main type je, ada yg berpengetahuan skit, banyak..
ada lak yang main bedal je bandingkan kete..ikut suka hati dia, so dapat la ‘suka hati’ nye komen drp org lain lak.
bro, sekarang korg keje sbg apa? let say cikgu. then u want to comment hentam kromo engineer’s work? let say engineer lak, then ko nk hentam keje si posmen?
my point here, u can’t evaluate others if u’re not in the same field..camni mentaliti orang malaysia yang semakin maju? ada yg ok la, tp yg tak ok nih.
plus, CVT? yep, CVT memang fuel effiecient . tp..yg nih, yg ada kat mana2 kete skrg..still kurang efisen. korg semua, tggu2 la..the new CVT, then…mana2 company nak nnt~~
dua sen!
you know what they say…
“you know can buy a bigmac at a ramly burger stall”
hehehheeh
Now Malaysians will buy this re-badged metal crap at an affordable price and re-badge the Proton name back to Mitsubishi.
Proton is a company that only wants profit, they are least bothered about the image of the company and its impact that it may have in the future…..clearly as its director said “its a business decision”….need we say more?
visited proton today. 2.0 model came with none integrated navigator which i think is not of any value. that kind of navi invite break in when you left it in the car. Not sure if we can buy the car without the navi
Proton has spent billions in R&D and also Malaysian tax payer’s money, but came up with changed the front and back bumper only? Suspension and handling tuned by LOTUS technology. So now I wonder what you call Proton DNA.
from what source do you get about bilion dollars spent for this model and came out only new design of bumpers… Jangan pakai hentam cakap je… Kau keje ape? jangan la ingat jurutera dan pengurus kat proton tu takat sekolah atap je. Huh, ape orang cakap kau ikut cakap…
saya setuju, xde hitam putih DIAM!
gud effort by proton….but…ai……
in ppl’s mind n perception, it cant even win over a comparison over vios n city….therefore pls dun even mention accord or camry…the D segment. ppl would willingly buy a 80k vios or city n ignore ispira being a gud bargain, 80k d segment car. inspira is semi d house grade…..but ppl tend 2 compare it 2 normal terrace house…y?coz da ppl da build da house has lost their image for a very long time….even if they sell a E segment…(i duno theres such thing as E segment)….mayb at da range of BMW standard…at lower n more bargain price…alot of ppl will not buy it….
i strongly believe tat inspira is a gud car….but the most important thing about any company…is the brand. The brand image of proton has suffered so so much….its peoples perception tat forms a brand image….since tat alot of ppl doesnt like da brand…its very hard for it 2 gain back its trust. cars r very diff from other product….other product we can simply buy n try. but cars, once u bought 1….n u dislike it…..habis….u hate it 4eva. anyways…..inspira….gud bargain, hopefully reliable… if proton dun save da company tis time….i really hav notin 2 say…..ai~~~
u got point. but now people r getting smarter and smarter. customers know their products. what to look for , what makes a good car. all this while, yes, proton models with all mediocre proton engines, components…. makes them yucky as hell.
the fact that hurts is the engine is the original one+parts are all almost the same 90+%+u may even get more with the lotus thingy.
now, we just wait and see.
Baik beli rumah dari beli kereta. Selepas 5 tahun jadi besi buruk. Value rumah sentiasa naik.
Proton is the best !
I like evo but not afford. Inspira can think about it.
My post here for those who says “pity u lancer owner”.
let me start with why i’m buying lancer gt. its only because i nampak lancer sebagai kereta yg ada kelas tersendiri. and i know with figure above 100k, hanya golongan tertentu je can pay dat price. one of my fren did pay cash la for whole 120k. if pay by loan, still need consider 1k minimum per month. <–depend la berapa u bayar muka.
those who guy said "pity u lancer owner", and then these guys buy inspira, i nak tanya;
are u guys dah consider nak isi minyak bulan2? full tank rm100++. normally maximum 1 week la for those volume. (except u all beli inspira, then pegi keja naik motor)
already consider for maintainance? (okey, maybe proton already got sparepart murah)
lancer gt using 18 inch sport rim, and each 1 tyre cost rm800(toyotyre/yokohama), or maybe rm450(falken) <–roughly figure. which if change all tyre may cost rm1k above.
later u buy inspira and change 18"sportrim to look alike evo10, try la DONT use tayar celup/second hand.
later i sense almost all proton inspira owner gonna change bumper, put spoiler, change dat dis, just to show u own mitsubishi lancer @ evo10. (u can see today's wira car that become evo-wanabe).
my question, how many of this guy who shout "i'm proud of proton, i love proton dat produce inspira, or proton telah sama taraf dengan syarikat ternama dunia"
think again, u all puji2 proton inspira but later u change the badge into Japanese Insignia. whats dat?
owh, if u all none of them, its okey maa.
next question is why u said "pity u lancer owner" or "habis la keta lancer jatuh harga"
i only take dat as an insult and offensive to my status & all lancer's owner. With that price, i bukannya nak sombong, just nak state here dat we are professional citizen that not only can pay for the lancer gt price, but also able to maintain all the car expenses.
maybe u all can buy/own same car or better car from lancer gt. i respect dat, becoz i did love proton. but when u all shout "pity u lancer owner", think again bro. we are not in same level of living. plzz show some respect! plzz put in your mind, what if u are in the same situation with me/lancer owner. later u know la apa perasaan kitorang berdepan situasi ini. for me, maybe can change/buy new car. but for others, who knows.
think again bro.
Remember, dis post bukannya tuju kat semua proton inspira owner. i dont want u all tembak/kutuk2 i kat page ni.
Only who those keep shouting "pity u lancer owner". <— p/s : enjoy your inspira!
So the anger…
aku skang pakai proton bukan inspira. gaji aku buleh jer sampai accord, altis. x bising pun cam ko.
bukan sume orang tak bijak hidup x senang, bukan sume orang bijak hidup senang. kalau rase bijak, hidup senang dgn cara bijak lah, yakni: kalau inspira ngan lancer lebih kurang jer, pilihlah lancer. byr murah.
ps: inspira pakai rim 16 la bro… jangan bongkak sgt, rezeki tuh di tangan Allah
Bro….Don’t forgot the “Rally Art ” sticker if wanted to modify from Inspira to EVO.
.Don’t forgot the “Rally Art ” sticker if wanted to modify from Inspira to EVO.
.Don’t forgot the “Rally Art ” sticker if wanted to modify from Inspira to E VO.
These guys wack Mitsu Lancer owners because they could not afford the real Lancer. That is the bottom line
Even if they buy Inspira, they still need to spend a lot $$$ to MOD the car, bodykit, wing, 18 inch sport rims… no matter how they mod.. the interior still proton, the steering wheel emblem is proton.
Also bank interest rate for Proton is much higher… :P
aku memang cadang nak ambik inspira nih, tp kalau mampu beli original lancer aku akan pilih lancer sbab memang dari dulu is my dream car (impian yg ikut logik lah, takyah dok impi keta ferarri or els….tp impian yg tak logik ada gak seperti mustang heheee..)
dulu aku pakai wira 1.5M sedan pastu bagi kat mentua then beli waja cps, tp still syok drive wira lg (mitsub vs proton campro),
so maaf campro cps, soon aku kena bertukar kpd inspira sbb bg aku performance waja 50% below of wira (Gen-2 n Persona aku tak tau).
nak tunggu ada duit beli lancer…kesian anak-bini aku lah, so buat ikut kemampuan n aku still respect to lancer/evo owner.
ANYWAY MY NEXT INSPIRA IS PROTON
Hi Paul, Is the Ispira come with safety feature like VSA or VSC which is very useful for Malaysia Climate and the road condition?
alahai.. senang citer; basher ker, supporter ker, korang semua ni hakikatnye memang SAYANGKAN proton kan? kan? kan? :)
semua orang nak tgk proton ni berjaya, bukan je kat Malaysia ni, tapi kat mata dunia jugak.
jadi jangan le gadoh2 lebih2 sgt. Malaysia ni kecik je, kalo bukan kite yang jaga, sape lagi yg nak jaga kan? kan? kan?
* takkan mamat2 dan minah2 PATI tu lak nak jaga, tol tak?*
peace, no war~
T&H.. YES please.. Year End Sale
kalo aku beli Inspira ni pun..aku takkan ubah apa2..tukar rim n tyre, bodykit n spoiler je..tak pyh nak ikut original Lancer GT..
another member who hates the ugly 16 ” rims and tires!
Paul,
Would you be able to comment on the NVH from the preview test drive? Noticed there was no comment on the noise intrusion level. Booked the 1.8M yesterday.. so eager to know how it is like.
Thanks
so what is your take on Perdana?
what will come of it? will we be getting a new rebadge Mitsubishi?
I love proton because now they gave me “the common man” the opportunity to own a good 4 door sedan for the family and still satisfies that little boy racer in me….at a lower cost heheh yahoooo
yes its not the original Lancer but who the F*** cares!!, i get a car that looks like the radio control car i bought for my son, woohoo, i wish i had a radio control car that look like my dads old beemer…but some yuppy scum who are at a higher level of living might buy the “real” car for their son..he3
and yes you will see a lot of ah beng version of this car after this because of the floodgates of after market parts and accessories in the years to come that are not accessible to us mere mortals before this.and its OK by me because its our own money and suka hati aku lah nak spend camne kan..x yah tiru evo pun xper, skill individu la, proton cars to me are like TAMIYA cars, its the perfect specimen to mod, tweak and personalize and do whatever u like to it, because hey! its a proton hehehe..just like my 1.8 iswara huhuhuhu
so after all that been said and done, jgn terkejut lah lalau x lame lagi ade kete proton inspira boleh tapau evo x kat hiway….after being technically creative to the car that is…yamaha 125 Z pun boleh masuk enjin TZM….hihihihi
P.S I hope this car doesn’t CRASH and BURN like that other JAP car..hmmmm
common man can afford all sort of cars if “competitive tax” on imported cars being implemented….
without tax, how to run the country?
didnt i say competitive tax?
So you want to be a common man like in Thailand where only sales tax ‘competitive tax’ is applied not like here in Boleh land where excise duty is applied.
Here is the Price Comparison
Mitsubishi Lancer GT (Thai) = RM106,877.71 THB1,034,000
Toyota Corolla Altis 2.0G (Thai) =RM100,149.24 THB 969,000
Honda Civic 2.0 (Thai) = RM108,608.75 THB 1,051,000.0
Proton Inspira 2.0 = RM96,000 ++
For Price
http://www.toyota.co.th/en/models/Altis/altis_spec.asp
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.th/mitsubishi/model/modellineup.php
http://honda.co.th/th/civic/honda-civic.html
Most common man here is still cannot afford it la.
I bet you drive a P2 thinking that it is a Japanese car, every day praying and hoping that Civic, Altis or Lancer priced at below RM 60k just like your P2 priced with ‘competitive tax’.
Dream on! la,
You should complain more to everybody in Bolehland, pray more so that Proton close shop, coz you want to be like Thailand where there are no Proton and yet your dream car still cost you more than RM100k. ptuuuih
i say, even if i put you to live in thailand with a Mitsubishi lancer, in a week you’d be crawling back to Malaysia laa… then even give u jaguh kotak mancis pun you sanggup!!! grass always greener on the other side, untill you live there for yourself la BODO!! im talking through experience by the way…cibai scgtimk1
paul..is the1.8 cvt transmission has 6 speed and also has 6 speed manual mode?
“”Actually the Evo X and Lancer share the same chassis….. whats different is the engine, trim lvl, equipments etc… As far as i know the the chassis or should i say the body structure is the same””
evo x ngan lancer gt ade sikit kelainan kt chasis bro..
cuba ko ambik absorber evo x taruk kt lancer gt.
xbleh masuk bro..kena modified..
dan jgn lupa klu bro kate beza kt engine trim lvl bla bla bla..
tp jgn lupa struktur dan keteguhan chasis adalah sgt berlainan,,
chasis lancer gt direka utk 155hp..manakala chasis evo x utk 280+hp..
aku rase keteguhan chasis neo biasa ngan neo cps pun dah lain.
tu baru beza x sampai 20hp..
”Actually the Evo X and Lancer share the same chassis….. whats different is the engine, trim lvl, equipments etc… As far as i know the the chassis or should i say the body structure is the same”
yup. chassis evo10 and lancer is look alike, but the same chassis. so, whatever we modify the lancer, still cannot be same exactly like evo10. most easiest way to spot is fuel cap. evo10 fuel cap is square shape while the inspirah is round shape, something which I think hardly to copy by inspira owner. hehe…(if one of inspirah owner convert to evo10, please booo them whenever stop beside at traffic light)
My opinion..INSPIRA cannot be considered as Malaysian car..why?Designed=Mistsubishi,Engine=Mitsubishi…so apa yg Malaysiannya..??Then….actually pity to both lancer owner and Inspira owner too…lancer owner sian sbb pasni berlambak dah kat jln raya lancer celup nih…skrg nak nmpak sebijik lancer pun jarang2..so exclusive ckit..tahun dpn x exclusive g la..kat owner Inspira lak sian gak..coz org akan ckp..sian..xde duit beli lancer ..inspira pun inspiraaaa laaaaahhh….kahkahkah…xpe la..owner lancer bole bangga sbb inspira celup lancer..tu je la…kalau pasni kat hway ade inspira nak cucuk lancer apa nak heran..dah pakai enjin mitsubishi..lain la cucuk lancer pakai enjin campro..baru ble bangga maaaa….cit!!
“”Actually the Evo X and Lancer share the same chassis….. whats different is the engine, trim lvl, equipments etc… As far as i know the the chassis or should i say the body structure is the same””
evo x ngan lancer gt ade sikit kelainan kt chasis bro..
cuba ko ambik absorber evo x taruk kt lancer gt.
xbleh masuk bro..kena modified..
dan jgn lupa klu bro kate beza kt engine trim lvl bla bla bla..
tp jgn lupa struktur dan keteguhan chasis adalah sgt berlainan,,
chasis lancer gt direka utk 155hp..manakala chasis evo x utk 280+hp..
aku rase keteguhan chasis neo biasa ngan neo cps pun dah lain.
tu baru beza x sampai 20hp..
memang lain bro..
Here is today well said great news i read from today 19/10/2010 star newspaper…
the BN-Kinabatangan MP, Datuk Bung Moktar Radin call Proton to wound up claiming that the national car maker had embarrassed the nation by trying to pass off a rebadged Mitsubishi Lancer as the Proton inspira….He said he cannot accept Proton’s excuse that it was too costly to develop its own car to replace waja…
“Proton said it would cost rm700mil to produce a new car. if cannot afford tp design new car, then just close down”…”Do not embarrass the country. Proton has doing research & development for years…Don’t tell me that there is no design that can make ppl proud.” he said while debating the budget 2011…
i strongly agree & support the BN-kinabatangan MP words…his words too impress me…well done…
dengan hang2 dengan si bung pun sama..xphm rebadge business..urghh malas ah nk bebel menjela..baca je komen2 org psl isu kete ni..why proton opt to rebadge business..
what the hell does this bung guy knows a bout the car business?
he even cheated the JABATAN AGAMA ISLAM, and you want to listen to this guy?
ke nak sedapkan hati because you are stuck with your lame CAMPRO, other kids younger than you can now own a mivec??
SAD that you need bung to impress you kih kih kih
some people think that they know everything. do some study first la. don’t comment like u r so clever. don’t dare to say like everything in Malaysia is bad, or Proton’s sucks before you ask yourself what u have done and contribute to malaysia which all malaysian can proud of. Ade… ade tak????
1) Still got comment about proton quality ka ? 2) People who support proton coz they can only buy proton ka ? 3) Buy proton change to Mitsubishi badge ka ?
1) I know people & have friends/family members using Honda Jazz, Civic, BMW 3/5 series, Toyota Alphard/Fotuner / Hilux / Vios, Merc e240/ e300, Proton / Perodua / Naza etc. ALLLLL got problem maaaaa. It’s just coz there are hundreds of thousands of protons compared to a few thousand other cars, and all malaysians own or know someone who own proton ,so we hear more problems about protons la. I don’t know anybody who drive a bentley, so I don’t hear any problem about it. Same for Chery,Geely, Tata, so I guess they are quality cars oz don’t hear any problem right.
2) Lu pikir la sendiri, you can’t change some people mindset.
3) Why need to change ? Modify whatever you like, but don’t change and try to pass it off as a Mitsubishi. Just because girls are crazy about korean actors.. I don’t change my eyes to look like them. Just coz the scandinavian are blonde, I don’t dye my hair. Coz whatever I do…. my skin, facial features and IC show my identity. I’m Malaysian and proud of it.
I don’t own a car yet but looking into buying one. I think Proton produce good cars but really have bad PR. I think if Proton wanted to improve their image they should start on improving their after sale service & also focus on the quality of the smaller parts. Most bad comments on the net are usually not on the core parts but on other parts like aircond, doors, gear box, body, paint etc. Its good that its using Mitsubishi engine as I’m a big fan. To me, Proton best car is still the old Saga. It still have value till now. & if I’m not mistaken they use Mitsu engine. The image starts to go really down after Tiara.
Attention to all customer who pay downpayment for Proton Inspira, now we are establish new club. Please join us to unite, and we can convoy everywhere, lepak2, or buy-sell mitsubishi part.
Our new club will be call :
Club of Owner Proton Inspira
COPI
wah!!
got club already?!!! cayalah! haven’t even seen the SHADOW of my car (or even 1st actual car’s), COPI already ready to serve COFFEE at our club house eh?
anyway, apakata nama club kita jadi C3PIO? alah, macam C3PO Star Wars tu, tapi ni C3PIO stands for…
Club of Communicating, Caring & Changing-Idea for Proton Inspira Owners.
Huu waaaaa….
A Bit too long for the full meaning, haha…
just that word C3PIO (pronunciation: see-tree-pee-oh) (nampak pokok kencing oh)
just that word crossed my mind, only then came the full long meaning.
Just a proposal.
Cheers!!!
Proton lancer ni cantik sebab klon Lancer. Tp, biarlah kualiti mcm Lancer walaupun harga rendah drp Lancer. Tp, kalau 80K-90K, aku rasa masih agak mahal sebab negara kita sendiri yang buat. Nanti orang lebih pilih yang import punya kerana yakin dengan kualiti buatan luar. Dulu masa nak keluar Exora, dikatakan bagus kualitinya tp, kwn2 pakai cakap masalah itulah, masalah inilah…enjin tak smooth, walhal baru pakai beberapa bulan. Akhirnya mereka tukar kpd Toyota dan Honda pulak. Semoga proton lancer ni betul2 bagus bagi mendapat keyakinan warga tempatan. Memang kita sokong beli barangan buatan Malaysia, tapi biarlah kualiti bagus. Jangan cakap tak serupa benda…Akhirnya orang kita sendiri tak percaya lagi dengan barangan buatan Malaysia.
Azman,
1. Inspira ni bukan KLON Lancer, tapi ia memang betul-betul Lancer. Baca betul-betul report Paul Tan, MTM Forum. Sad to say, report dalam Berita Harian, Metro kurang tepat, tak macam yang DSZ cuba sampaikan.
2. Apa yang `negara kita sendiri yang buat’? Again, baca betul-betul report di atas. Yang kita buat sendiri ialah Waja, Waja CPS, Neo, Neo CPS, Gen-2, Gen-2 CPS, Persona, Savvy & Exora.
3. Pernah pergi Open Day Proton? Kalau tak penah, bila-bila diorang iklankan Open Day Proton, ajak masuk kilang diorang yang besar nak mampuih tu, pergilah. Baru sikit kita “ada bukak mata”.
4. Kawan-kawan pakai Exora banyak masalah? Ye ke? Betul ke? Akhirnya mereka tukar pada Toyota? Toyota apa? Alphard ke, Avanza? Kalau Alphard bagus lah, kalau Avanza, kesiannya. Kalau Honda, Honda apa? Odyssey ke, Freed? Nak kata yg sama kelas dengan Exora, Honda cuma ada Stream je. Tapi rege double-lah. Tahniahlah. Tapi saya kurang yakin dengan statement anda. Kenyataan anda nampak terlalu generic dan terlalu lemah.
bro john….well said….jepon car also got quality prob nowadays.we can see re calls from jap manufacturers.
to my mind Proton has done many good jobs and I concur with John. Saya dah tinggal di serata dunia saperti beberapa tempat di Afrika, Uzbekistan, di US dan singgah di beberapa negara Eropah dan saya telah menyaksikan kereta Proton di negara negara itu. Walaupun tak banyak macam di Malaysia, tetapi telah dapat keyakinan orang luar. I am talking ABOUT PROTON. YES!!! ONE POLICE DISTRICT IN THE UK USES ONLY PROTON CAR. Long live Proton and I will always concur with your business strategies. Juga di banyak tempat saya pergi, orang akan kenal dan memuji HANYA SAORANG anak/pemimpin Malaysia yang kebetulan juga penasihat Proton
We need good people to drive Proton to greater heights. There is a magazine which conduct surveys on one million over workshops round the world, have provided ratings (failures) on most cars makes. Look for it and see for yourself what they say about Proton cars. I have read the magazine bought by a Canadian friend ( maybe dia beli di Canada)
Nothing wrong with Inspira, really..dunno why ppl keep on bashing this car…I wasn’t a proton lover, but Inspira really caught my attention..90k is ok for me..considering the 4th years old honda civic 2.0 cost more than that amount.
and rebadging thingy..I thought Paul already mention in the article about other big european and jap’s brand who did just the same thing…
I think it just mentality…..what comes from proton, re badge or no re badge, will draw in criticsm…mostly hurtful and negative.
the article did mention that proton is only rebadging the lancer to save money to focus on its core market. in that case why not rebadge a car for your core market as well. so you can save more money.
and by the way, the reality is that it is almost impossible for proton to engineer a car anywhere as good as the lancer ‘when they have the resources’. and lets be honest the lancer is the open market is no where near the benchmark in its class though it will sell mainly coz its cheaper.
it is clear the only conclusion is that proton’s goal is only to lock down thier home market. they have no intention of letting other car companies compete on equal ground. even mitsubishi has agreed to let proton canabalise some of thier sales (lancer GT) simply coz mitsubishi would make more money that way by taking a cut from the proton inspira market segment (i.e the people who can afford 80-100k)
Tak tau nak kata kata ape org malaysia ni…semua yg org lain buat tak kena bg dia, habis dia buat ape….dia bukan dalam bidang keta, habis bidang lain apa sumbangan dia utk malaysia, jadi kera sumbang kpd malaysia adalah…!!!
Habis yg diorang dok sibuk convert wira/waja kpd lancer/evo, korang tak bising pun, ada stengah tu plak lg bangga kalau boleh buat/tengok camtu.
spatutnye komen lah perkara seperti
1. harga… tp mcm dah ok compare to vios & city
2. interest…kenapa honda & toyota boleh bg ~3% loan. INSPIRA=PRTON=MALAYSIA!!
3. kenapa QUALITY keta proton utk market domestik-eksport tak sama
a) Mr Paul Tan, boleh ajukan perkara ni kpd Datuk Syed Zainal pasal harga & interest loan ni…
b) Betul ke 1000 unit pertama adalah CBU from japan, atau 1000 unit demo/prototype/specimen/dll…..
c) 1000 unit pertama, no plate mula dgn “INSPIRA 1 – INSPIRA 1000”
d) Bila Paul Tan dah jawab, sure sekarang jugak aku pegi booking Inspira (dah lama berangan nak beli lancer @ Evo….tp $$$,$$$ ?????
Member aku yg keje kat Maybank kata interest utk inspira skrg ni 3.5%. so beli cepat2 sbl naik.
very sexy. a tad bit expensive (just cos ‘local car’, imho, but still a damn good deal!)
paul… dunno if it’s been discussed, but any future plans for a 6 speed auto gearbox? :-)
all these comments r funny n stupid
reading all these n laugh is even better than watching comedy!
LOL
Yeaaaaaa…. yeaa PROTON did it again
Chiplak again…….LOL
those Lancer’s fan got a chance to buy cheaper chiplak lancer car and change the BADGE to mitsubishi later LOL…….
shame to be malaysian
Kepada future owner inspira kalau korang nak tukar kpd lancer GT/EX atao kpd EVO 10 skalipun, lantak lah. orang (fanatics cars) akan tau gak yg tu mmg inspira.
Jangan tukar jadi “PDRM EVO 10” sudah…!!!
So nanti club inspira, boleh advise future inspira owner don’t do that
First Owner Inspira (plate no. “INSPIRA 1”) akan dilantik jadi Presiden Club.
i’ll say this inspira is better than my honda city..truth hurts..
sori lah mungkin dah terlambat nak nasihat ni, tapi cuba je la
hai you all, kenapa semua orang sibuk nak gaduh?? umpama gajah dgn gajah bergaduh kancil ditengah yang mampus, kalau ada orang fanatik proton biar je la,kalau ada orang fanatik japanese car biar la. semua ada hak masing2 untuk menyatakan pendapat, this is free forum man!! jgnlah macam orang yang tak bertamaddun, kelakar la semua orang malaysia ni, yang miskin korang jugak, walaupun aku guna 5 series e60 tak pernah aku kutuk proton,dan lain lain kereta, kalau mahal takyah beli, simpan duit beli keta lain, yang minat proton lak, takyah la nak pertahankan proton mcam nak gile sampai nak analisis statement orang, bukan company kita pun, lu beli lu guna. semua kereta ada masalah tersendiri.mesti ada sebab tersendiri mereka benci proton, hidup ini memang kejam dan tak adil
My First car is a 2nd hand Iswara. Then I trade in to Waja. After 5 years I trade in my Waja for another Waja .Even tokeh proton edar pun heran tengok I. Now I own an Exora. Still got my Waja. I am still waiting for proton to award me most loyal customer…ha..ha…
Lama dah saya tak tengok phrase ni: HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY dan untuk Zul saya nak kata: LOYALTY IS THE BEST POLICY. I sokong U, Proton shud think about LOYALTY REWARD
Nice car. The bussiness strategy make sense and the price is good. What else can u ask for? Lets hope they can keep the quality under check from begining to end.
At the time the lancer was launched, some idiots commented “Why proton dont make cars looking likethis?” Now that Proton does sell mitsubishi cars, they complain “Why Proton sell mitsubishi cars and not make their own?”… dddhuuh.
I just dono why this car so cheap (even lot of money). I feel that it should be more expensive becoz its a mitsubishi engine. If its 95000 then all the other car company sure close down. Proton is so stupid. They should increase the price to at least 110000 so that they can play fair game with other car company. I suspect the engine print mitsubishi but technologi copy china cars.
I don want to buy this car becoz waste a lot of money. RM95000 can buy 9 use kancil. I can buy 9 cars who so stupid one to buy one car only???
why you don’t use you leg to walk, it’s FOC, why you waste your $$ to buy a kancil.
i am sure you own a Mitsubishi Lancer , that’s why you are so angry ! hahaha
think wisely before u write here, because it’ll show how quantitatively u can think! write and comment MUST based on facts, not myth lorr…
hope that the new P3-90A do not have the same problem like waja, power window malfunction, central lock malfunction, alarm system malfunction.
I am all for rebadging / re engineering / rebusiness targetting, whatever fancy word you choose. As long as it make the entry cost lower.
Hell, if Proton wants to rebadge Aston Martin and make it cheaper, why should I complaint ?
Agree. Even the Japs have met with lots of success through reverse engineering
forget aboout inspira for a while, think about lancer read the reviews on lancer , focus on everything except the engine performance(coz inspira got 1.8 version) all ratings have been good. cannot compare with vios and city then. better match is civic or altis or new sentra. i would love to have lancer now!( or inspira)
Hi Paul,
I m Mok.
I m going to order 1, is it still worth as the first launching since last year?
Any change of spec?
I m wondering after this few months, is there any change? And there is some offers for new buyer which read from the advertisement on the newspaper.
Thanks & best regards,
Mok
i heard this insider news from somewhere else. proton gonna stop production for inspira if it still cant meet the quota?
and today news July 24th, an inspira malay owner died due to tyre burst..
and i wanna to correct some mistake about the interest part- 2.33 lowest interest for 5 years, 2.67 for 7 years and 2.89 for 9 years …. latest promotion 5k rebate cash or 5 years warranty …. correct me if wrong..
Last Question, if someone bought this inspira and mod into EVO X or lancer gt, the warranty is still there ???
thanks
today news July 24th, an inspira malay owner died due to tyre burst..
and i wanna to correct some mistake about the interest part- 2.33 lowest interest for 5 years, 2.67 for 7 years and 2.89 for 9 years …. latest promotion 5k rebate cash or 5 years warranty …. correct me if wrong..
Last Question, if someone bought this inspira and mod into EVO X or lancer gt, the warranty is still there ??? thanks
Hey guys, i was just wondering which is better between inspira and satria neo cps? coz im interested in buying either 1.
p/s: My bro booked a renault megane 250 cup! just sayin.. :P
Hi paul, how are you doing ?I just got my inspira 1.8 manual. 3 days ago. I drove on the penang bridge at 90km/h. when i let go of the pedal to reduce speed There was an eeeeeeeeeeeee sound at high pitch. my guess is they are coming from the gear box. i have driven many sort of manual transmission cars before. this kind fo sound normally are from the old cars. I am very worried now that it’s coming from a car that’s 3 days old. I am seeking your kind advice on this. Thanking you in advance.