Dongfeng-Honda has introduced the Ciimo sedan specifically for the Chinese market – if the shape in the photos look familiar, it is; the Ciimo is pretty much the eight-generation Civic, repackaged for China.
The car – which made its debut in Beijing – is available in only one engine variant form, this being the 1.8 litre i-VTEC, mated to either a five-speed manual or five-speed auto transmission. Kit includes ABS with EBD and active headrests.
Pricing for the Ciimo begins from 111,800 Yuan, and word is that the Ciimo name won’t just be worn on this one, but rather on a series of models as it becomes a sub-brand. Reports indicate that a SUV based on the CR-V is next on the cards.
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Merely 111,800.00 CNY=54,026.58 MYR or about Proton Saga BLM 1.6SE????????????????????
Its Currency maa… if not will be same…
how can it be same.
rm1 = 2 rmb .
you buy iphone at rm2199 and 4500+ rmb
so why we buy civic at 100k+ RM and china ppl buy at 100k+ RMB
We should do the same coz this would jump start the proton machinery for sales and service!!! Not just the top management all the time!!
this is a good move since the 8th generation civic still look great..
but the new 9th generation civic look outdated and seem like few generation behind!!!
oh no not again.
different country different tax structure. Different law. So many things are different.
so what…? in USA is only RM48k.
if people keep comparing like this, without even looking at bigger picture, nobody will ever satisfied. car prices is very much lower in India than Malaysia too, civic is just RM75k there, but petrol price almost RM5 perlitre, in china more than RM3 perlitre.
some of my colleague here from India, they said eventhough the car is cheap compared to some developed countries, their purchasing power is not that high thus not many people could actually afford to buy cars.
it’s easy to compare china and India, they both have 1billion people but china had about 13mil cars sold while india had less than 2mil last year. now take a look at passenger cars to population ratio: Malaysia = 313/1000, China = 34/1000, India = 12/1000. what does it tell you?
That is because we already pay the fuel subsidies in advanced when we purchase the car.
USA RM 48K (Fuel RM 5/ltr) Malaysia RM 118K (Fuel RM 1.9/ltr) China RM 54K (Fuel RM 3/ltr) so we pay 70K more compare to US with fuel price difference of RM 3/ltr we can get 23,333 ltr of fuel (assume we used 2400 ltr a year, mean we are paying 10 year fuel subsidies in advance), which most of us sell our can withing 5-7 years, so who is paying more ?
Compare to China we are paying extra RM 64K (with fuel price difference of RM 1) we are paying 64,000 ltr of fuel which enough for 26 years of fuel.
China & India have more efficient public transport than us.
china & india has better public transport???? wow.. maybe you live in different planet…
my point is, don’t just look at car and fuel price, understand? take a look on some other factors such as income tax, healthcare, education, and subsidies. you’re dreaming if you think you can go to hospital and pay just USD1 in USA. it simply just doesn’t exist there. if your taxable income in Malaysia is RM35k, you pay 7% tax. but if your income is USD35k in US, you pay 25% tax. you like it?, then try for yourself.
This not honda the logo not honda..this dongfeng honda…state owned half-chinese…the car built by half-chinese company of cource cheaper..wat u guy fail to see is that how china protect their auto industry…malaysia oso has this kind of company naza-kia…if u cant accept naza forte as kia forte..how can u guy approve this dongfeng honda ciimo as honda civic?….what bout hyundai-simedarby…will u approve if? Or u guy accept that china assembler is high quality than malaysia?…the only limitation bet china n malaysia assembler is purely tax regardless local or foreign
lol..india got more efficient public transport?
u go there and ride the train la…
or can i say ride ‘the roof’ of the train…aiyoyoyo
it seem u r good to giving figure but dunno how to calculate..
Civic at US is RM48k and bolehland RM118k, the different is RM70k.
Let say this car drive for 10 years:
RM70000 / 10 years / 12 months = RM583
It mean we had pre-pay the petrol price with RM583 per month and last for 10 years!
So, did this figure tell u something?
Now who says car prices in Malaysia are expensive? Hehe..
Hey! At least we’re luckier than our neighbours down south.
A 1.8L civic costs S$140,900. The COE(paper just to own that car) for a category B(Cars above 1.6L) car is now S$91,000. So to own a 1.8 Honda Civic in Singapore costs the owner, S$231,900. That is RM 568,505.75, while ours cost RM119,995.30.
While this Dongfeng-Honda civic is is like 2.2x cheaper than our local civic.
Ours is cheaper than SG Civic by 4.7x ! Those guys driving a civic in SG can buy a new Mercedes E 300(Rm 455,888) + Honda City(RM90,494) with RM22,123 to spare here in MY.
Suddenly I like staying in Malaysia…
Good ! Singapore GDP per Capital is USD 49,270 compare to ours at USD 9,699.
That 5.X our income, pay me Singapore salary then i don’t mind paying Singapore Car price, please provide me Singapore efficient public transport too.
ohh??.. suddenly come GDP PPP factor… maybe your info is old ones. according to CIA factbook, SG GDP is US59.9K, malaysia = US15.6K. that’s less than 4x.
so by your logic, it’s ok for SG to have 5x our car price because they have 4-5x our GDP, right? why you didn’t compare Malaysia and China GDP PPP? China have GDP US8.4K.. so ours is almost 2x than china. would you agree that it should be ok for us to have more expensive car price here because our GDP is higher? and also because we only pay about 60% of fuel price here compared to china…
if you earn SG4k and you buy a car, is like committing suicide.. fuel tax, parking, roadtax, insurance are all more expensive than what you pay in Malaysia. previously, you would have to pay for your car radio tax also… it was abolished only recently.
if you earn RM4k, i know some friend who could buy RM100k cars… no prob.
“So to own a 1.8 Honda Civic in Singapore costs the owner, S$231,900”
obviously u know nuts bout SG. Hey, come up from the well now…
Come on, why u not mentioned their average monthly salary compare to us???
by that, why not you check our average income compared to china too?
come on. if u guys are so fascinated abt other countries i.e. USA, India, China, Singapore etc, please do us a favour. pack ur bags and move there. dont bother to live in this ‘corrupted’ country.
111,800 yuan = RM53776.59 :P
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can proton merge to Honda and produce like this HONDA?
Hmm… they used the oddball looking US market 2 spoke steering wheel in this rebadged FD1… Its not wrong but the 2 spoke wheel does look weird
Specs seems lower than the FD1 we have here. There is no turn indicators in the wing mirrors, there’s no audio controls on the steering wheel spokes, the door handles are color coded rather than semi chromed.
But the most impt thing is tha the Chinese can still enjoy the awesome REAL Civic rather than the Gen9 POS that Honda wanted the rest of the world to have… :(
They can’t have the K20Z 2L FD2 though… but the FD1 is powerful enough and less nose heavy… it does makes a better handling car as compared to the FD2
even proton have much more better steering than this..
like the old days proton….rebadge…
though the fuel is more dearer in China , but the the price of this car really beats the trade off .
China’s policy is getting more relavant to their citizen . Not like here in Malaysia .
Full of suckers who only know to suck citizens’ money . Wake up Malaysia . Your preve is more expensive than civic in China . What a big joke .
If not next election you will bungkus like nasi lemak .
if you think staying in china is better than malaysia, why don’t you go back to china? maybe you expect that because you think you have the same salary / purchasing power as what you have in Malaysia. purchasing power parity percapita (PPP):
Malaysia = 15,600
China = 8,400
India = 3,700
tuan, how do you know he/she comes from china?
Dont be stupid..
Fresh grad salary there earn the same figure like in Malaysia..
Lets say 2.5k RMB vs RM 2.5k.. The car price almost same figure but the petrol price there is sky rocket… I am glad to live here in Malaysia rather than China which hv a bad air quality..
Why wont Proton do the same and keep the price down??? 54,026.58 MYR for Local rebadge Honda Civic!!! We are jealous!!!
Why dont Honda Malaysia do the same?????
There should be an option of either Manual or auto transmision. It should also be affordable to Malaysian. Ya, don`t compare country to country , but must be value for money. Do give a though why prices of car in M`sia expensive ?
Also, Owing a vehicle is not easy. Beside High insurance for compehensive, and for old cars loading . You also get fine from :
1, POLICE
2, JPJ
3, LOCAL COUNCIL
Malaysia…big boss earning Rm 15k a month
can afford A Range Rover brand new for RM 560k
In Italy …one big boss earn Euro 15k a month
Cant afford A Ferrari for Euro 500k…instead barely able to buy Audi A5…
in malaysia…earning 1,500 a month can afford 2k plus ipad…biasa la
Cleaner in Europe…earning Euro 400 a month cant afford Euro 400 ipad…
not all the same here and there….
No doubt Malaysia car is expensive…dont enjoy it…
There’s no way RM15k can afford a RM560k car… tax already makan 2.5k, balance about 12.5k, then 500k loan is 9.6k a month for 5 years, balance only 2.9k, for fuel, insurance and road tax… everyday makan maggi meh? :P
baca paultan.org pun dah kenyang
well… that’s 5 years loan. maybe he can afford if he get 9 years loan. and in malaysia, we already know that people like to buy things eventhough they can’t afford. biar papa asalkan bergaya!
Maybe with some “undeclared” income, the big boss could afford it. :)
Hi Paul,
Company car mah, petrol & maintenance inclusive mah….
cash business type of boss… don declare all the cash income. sure can afford range rover, i know alot of cash business bosses do that.
well…you can say the guy estimation does reflect our quality of education especially our maths
and for a person in Malaysia who earn RM 15k per month means that is the figure they “declared” to income tax.
lol RM15k can afford a range rover? hahahah how I wish I could do so.. but currently only driving an 8th gen civic fd2.. can’t afford to makan maggi everyday! :P
You think 15K in Malaysia can do so many things?
ferrari where need 500k euro?
100k euro already enough to get a ferrarri.
You talk till cow come home, car will still expensive in Malaysia.
To get a fair car price, you only have few option, all are Hybird that below 2000 cc.
maybe mainland sino will gets Dongda Climo TypeR dragon edition later as well lol
our money just goto government’s pocket
if proton rebadge this … or any maker rebadge this and sell it below RM70k, i will still buy it for sure… i swear!!!
why funny name Ciimo how to pronounce?
should just call it Dongfeng Climax…
China – the land of rebadging, but if proton rebadge, sure this forum will be filled by the proton basher.
Mainland Chinese buy car with cash, seldom take loan. Can you match them?
Perhaps the land is rather too big for bank to trace defaulters.
Wise suggestion, dont buy at all, if you still have one driving, or go on be a kuli for every 5 years to 9 years. Depend on what you desire. You have no choice from what I see.
15K drive a Range Rover? In your dream? Or the boss took bribes?
Car purchases in malaysia is so easier than other country… with zero downpayment we’re able to grab our dream to own a new car.. stupid economic!
Proton rebadge Lancer…. from about rm120k….. now you can enjoy inspira for about rm78k that about rm40k save in money he he……
Now you want civic rebranded by proton…..hu hu…..inspira ok what?
I wonder do they have the same safety star like Honda? Or it’s similar like the Inspira, without proper rating so far.
On top of car selling price, they have car-plat “registration / tendering fees”…that was about RMB 40k in Shanghai in Nov 2010. And as far as I know, this amount is not loan-able…which means, they have to pay more hard-cold cash than we do in M’sia when buying a car
Let’s look at the TOTAL COST of car ownership, instead of only car price…otherwise it will be never-ending, narrow view rebate
I earn RM5000 a month. I’m so happy to drive a Persona. Some of the people commenting here cannot afford to even buy a bicycle but they talk as if they are going to buy the car tomorrow.
Why nobody mention the rear light is rounded instead of diamond shaped?
Because old mould can reused, it’s another way of “recycling”
As new civic is out, 8th civic mould can sell at low price to other joint -venture company to keep producing, why not? win-win situation
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