Proton handed over the first batch of its new Proton Perdana cars over to Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Abdul Razak today at a ceremony in Putrajaya. The badge on the rear says Perdana and not some other name, making this the second Proton nameplate to get a ‘second generation’ after the Saga.
Just as our previous spyshots of mildly disguised previous-generation Accords being tested indicated, the new Proton Perdana is based on the previous-generation Honda Accord. And like the Accord, the new Proton Perdana is available with either a 2.0 litre and 2.4 litre engine, both sourced from Honda.
Changes on the front include a new Proton grille and a completely new bumper design. The car also gets a new alloy wheel design. On the rear, we see that the tail lamp elements on the boot lid have been removed, but the chrome that used to run along it at the bottom remains there. This chrome is extended around the sides and bottom of the number plate area.
The big boss man himself gets a stretched version, with the government’s crest in the extended section between the front and rear windows. We wonder what the new wheelbase measurement is.
The Honda Accord already has a huge interior with lots of rear legroom – this will certainly allow the PM to completely stretch out his legs and relax. The window line is different for the long-wheelbase Perdana – it has a rather Buick-like dip at the rear to allow for a larger rear window.
Previous reports have indicated that this will be the first phase of the Perdana replacement model project, which will consist of 3,000 units for government use. The initial delivery is 200 units, with the remaining to be delivered on a staggered basis. The car obviously has lots of metal that indicates it is an Accord, but it will be developed further for a general market introduction in two years time.
The mass market car will continue to use this shared platform, but will have a completely new exterior and interior, according to Proton executive chairman Tan Sri Mohd Khamil Jamil. As for this short term solution, it was developed in eight months.
“Even with such short request time, we were up for the challenge – and through sheer dedication and hard work, we are here today to present the completed Perdana. We are truly grateful to the Prime Minister and the Malaysian Government for keeping their faith in Proton, and for giving us the opportunity to once again be the provider of the official government vehicle. I represent all Warga Proton when I say that this moment serves as inspiration and motivation for us to work even harder than ever, to continue leading the national automotive industry,” added Tan Sri Mohd Khamil.
WIN!!
its complicated feelings..
it’s W11N.
Who has got W1N?
o.o.
Now, it looks like Saga FLX SV…
11 is for 1 for rosmah 1 for najib… cant have 1 alone… hahaha..
the extended length is for rosmah also
For 30 years we rakyat suffer paying high car prices. All because of Proton. Actually car prices the past 30 years have not gone up that much despite inflation. You can see this from the US prices. A Honda Accord 2.4 and Toyota Camry 2.5 2014 model is USD$22,000. Yes, top of the range cars are only about RM60,000. So, this proves, car prices have not really gone up much the past 30 years. We still can be buying a Toyota Corolla or Nissan Sunny brand new for maybe about RM40,000, up from RM20,000 20 years ago.
So, for 30 years, we have been paying super high prices to protect Proton. Proton also gets hundreds of million ringgit in grant every few years from our Government. This is our hard earned tax payers money.
So with all the protectionism and all the suffering every single 30 million Malaysians been paying overpriced cars because Proton needs protection, all they can come up is rebadge?
Tak malu ke Proton? Disgusting. 30 million people suffer for the past 30 years and ALL Proton can do is rebadge an outdated Honda? What are your engineers and designers doing?
We Malaysians have the right to know. Because for 30 years we have been paying overpriced cars and our tax payers money been given to Proton in the form of grants.
Disgusting.
Korean cars started same time as Proton. See where is Proton and where is Hyundai now? Worldwide sales of ALL cars in the world, Hyundai is ranked as No 5 int he entire world.
Proton has ZERO International name. Both Hyundai and Proton started same time. See the difference.
Proton got ZERO marketshare in global market. Local market also, because rakyat kena paksa, that is why got sales. If MITI does not control the prices of other cars so that it does not undercut Proton, Proton would have gone bust 20 years ago.
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To anak jati johor
So, kite kene tggu 15-20 tahun, baru boleh catch up dgn hyundai? Bro, at that time, hyundai dah jauh ke depan.
X kisah la Hyundai tu start awal sikit dr Proton, tp Hyundai tu sekarang dah blh compete dgn nama2 besar yg lagi lama dah established dlm bisnes kete ni. Proton n Hyundai kira nama baru la. Paham? Hyundai dah angkat nama, Proton mcm xde tanda2 nak improve.
Satu lagi, hyundai x main rebadge2 ni. Proton je. Yg beli rebadge proton ni, rakyat Msia je. Kau ingat org luar negara nak beli “Proton Accord” ni? Buat pe, yang ori ade, latest lagi tu.
Sampai bila nk camni? Ownership cost utk keta makin tggi, nk support Proton/Perodua, tp Proton/Perodua x maju2. Ni ke matlamat Proton/Perodua ditubuhkan? Rebadge kete lama, pastu jual kat rakyat Msia. Tu je? Hampeh…
Correction Bro…
Hyundai Motor Company was established in 1967 (not 1960). The company’s first model (Cortina) was released in cooperation with Ford Motors in 1968. In 1975, the Pony, the first Korean car, was released, with styling by ItalDesign and powertrain technology by Mitsubishi.. (7 years later only.. no more Rebadging)
The official founding of Proton was in 1983. The Proton Saga was launched in 1985. It was based on the second generation 1983 Mitsubishi Lancer Fiore. Iswara, Wira, Putra, Satria Perdana all rebadge. (even Tiara)
Then in 2000 the first Malaysian car Waja was launched. (15 years after the first Saga)
Unfortunately however Hyundai still hires their own designers while Proton has gone back to rebadging their replacement models. (Inspira and now Perdana)
I acknowledge that Proton has designed their own models but sadly today they just rebadged their latest Perdana.
sadly to say, proton has been made as a scapegoat for this new perdana. govt demand for a new d-segment to replace the obsolete perdana. check back the story about how PR state change to camry for official car, then BN blame them for not being patriotic. hence, as malay proverb said,’jilat ludah sendiri’, they asked proton to come up with new d-segment to keep the patriotic sentiment. bear in mind, to make new car doesn’t take 1-2 years. furthermore, proton don’t have d-segment base. since drb also own honda, govt urge proton to use accord as replacement. as malay proverb said, jilat ludah sendiri, proton has been asked to rebadge the accord.
proton is the victim for this exercise. d-segment plan wasn’t in their 5-years plan initially. the market are not there. in malaysia, how many people are willing to buy d-segment?
all in all, we have to think for a while. why govt want to change or spend for a new official car when bills of electric, astro, sugar, fuel, toll and others are increasing? they asked us to spend wisely, but them?
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We have had enough of Japan cars. Malaysia is not a dumping ground for your old and unwanted engines. From 1985, we we stuck with old obsolete magma engines in the Mitsubishi. Now, we are stuck with Honda’s rubbish.
No idea why we have to take rubbish and obsolete parts from Jepun. Why our Gomen do this? Strike a deal with Jepun to sell Malaysians obsolete and useless engines? Mitsubishi did this, now Honda’s turn to sell trash to us. 30 years now, we still must eat berak from Japan. We can always use our Campro engines. Spend billions to come out with our own engines but don’t know how to redesign a new Perdana.
This is another penjajahan by the Jepun.
Same thing happen when the British came to jajah us and when the Japanese came to jajah us in the 50s. Our government then collaborate with them to strike a deal to do business. To want to make money for themselves. Then, got our country into trouble and colonised. Just one or two small ships sail to Malaysia, can overthrow few hundred thousand people kah?
The same happening now. Our government collborate to do business with Honda Japan to make Malaysia Japan’s dumping ground. Honda Japan also happy. They can sell old engines to us to clear stock. Why can’t we use our Campro engines and a new body designed by Proton?
Our Gomen again selling Malaysia to be colonised again. No backbone to do things on their own.
So proton is 28 years old. Go compare what Hyundai has produced in 1995 (1967+28) and what Proton is producing today.
hyundai was founded in 1967. Kia 1944.
Toyota Corolla and Honda Civic in the US is US$15,000. That is the RRP. Some dealerships go down to even US$12,000. So, you can get a good C segment car for US$12,000. That also CBU from Japan. High quality Japan made car with airbags like 6 to 8, VSC and all that. Even at this price, the US government HAS already collected taxes and duty and the Honda and Toyota dealership is making a healthy profit.
Here in Malaysia, we get CKD Made in Malaysia Altis and Civic. CKD means most of the parts are Made in Malaysia. This should reduce the cost a lot compared to the CBU Honda or Toyota in the US. After all “Pakai Barang Buatan Malaysia”.
But sadly, our Altis and Civic is priced at RM120,000 despite being CKD.
So how can a car cost RM120,000 in Malaysia and the higher quality Japan made CBU higher specced car can only cost US$12,000?
Somemore, UMW and Honda Malaysia get their cars from their Principal in Japan. Don’t be surprised when the car comes to Port Klang, it is hardly Rm30,000 for a Altis or a Civic.
To add more, if it is CKD, the car will be worth even more less because the parts come from the principal at an even cheaper price.
So, taking the US RRP at US$15,000 (RM$45,000) vs RM120,000, we sure do protect Proton a lot.
Call me unpatriotic and whatnot, but this is the very reason I am not buying a Proton any more as a sign of protest. But in Malaysia, buying another brand also kena tiao coz tax very high… What to do.
This whole rebadge thing is for Syed Mokhtar Al Bukhary. He is DRB Hicom. Government love him and he love the government. He is ALSO the government. To clear excess stock, he told government to buy all 3000 up. So, government use our income tax payer money to buy all 3000 up. Simple as that.
Looking at Hyundai Global site, “1976 Launch of Hyundai Pony, the first Korean passenger car”
Malaysia launches first car in 1985. So hyundai just started 9 years earlier really. Yet they even got full electric vehicles and hybrid.
“The first pure electric car developed by Hyundai was the Sonata Electric Vehicle in 1991”
In 1991, Proton came out with Proton Knight I think…ha ha ha
To Anak jati Johor(o0o), I think you are the one who is ‘buta sejarah’! It is not about who came first, who ‘matang’ first.
Pagani was established in 1992, a few years later than Proton but it is a zillion times better than Proton.
DRB HICOM not owned by Syed Mokhtar Al Bukhary anymore but Dato’ Syed Mohamad bin Syed Murtaza as Chairman, and Tan Sri Dato’ Sri Haji Mohd Khamil bin Jamil as Group Managing Director, including Ong Ie Cheong and Ooi Teik Huat as Board of Directors……..
@Protect proton
“Looking at Hyundai Global site, “1976 Launch of Hyundai Pony, the first Korean passenger car”
This was car under development, if like that all other auto manufacturers can do like those concept cars. It’s not for mass production. Please read and get your fact right.
Penjajahan semula,
This accord has 5 star ANCAP safety rating, even the new got 4. You want to die faster in new chassis? Please go ahead. And please rebadging is common thing. It’s business and making money matters.
Kak Ros doesnt need an xtended version… normal 1 will enuff.. hehe
for me, proton is not the one we should blame on. they did their job. but the one should be blame on is the government that keep taxes high on the sky!!! ^_^
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Owning a proton doesn’t mean you are poor and who the hell are you to judge people because they are poor. For your information, because of our government policies people are force to make drastic decision when buying cars. Look at the amount of tax is impose. Even some middle class people find it hard to make an ends meet, so they buy proton.
Btw… the wealthy don’t drive your cheapskate Toyota. They buy cars thay that have class..like mercs and bmw etc.
So don’t waste your stupid time telling people that proton is for poor people.
P.s. I don’t own a proton. I had write this because you are complete ignorant person. Maybe you don’t have any commen sense instill with you and it shows your level of iq and intelligence.
???? whats that ? u also condemn proton’s buyer? u can give ur opinion on the brand but how can u give opinion on proton’s buyer? i believe ur parents also owns a proton before. if u r so good, y only a sales man ? try be the PM or a better position. i know sales advisor like u are earning like 30-50k a month. but with ur superb brain, i wander how u only maintain as a TOP sales man. guess u can sit at a higher seat like becoming toyota’s CEO. earning about 200k a month… mmmm or should i say u got some brain damage,
tengok la toyota tu barapa tahun dah wujud..pkir pkai otak la..even toyota pon ada kerjasama dengan syrikat lain..gear box pkai gear box luar..xpkai gear box sendiri..komponen semua bukan toyota buat..semua hasil kerjasama..kalau stakat toyota vios baru tu dah terkehel tayar masa test drive hari tu mcm preve so mmg taraf mcm preve jugak..KERETA PORCHE PON terbakar bila accident..xpayah nak ckp la..statement lu mcm anjing la
So “Perdana” won’t be use on Proton’s D-Segment in 2016 but on this, Proton should have just name this the “Accordana” instead and retain the “Perdana” name for much realistic models
kerja salesman jer… orang kerja salesman ni memang sembang lebat… salesman kereta especially used car kalau orang nak jual kereta bukan main lagi komplen kereta sbb nak harga rendah.. kalau jual pulak puji lebih2.. cb
I used to work at UMW showroom with Sam Loo as my colleague, as a junior sales guy with no integrity, he made less than RM5k per month, best time is around RM 8k. I quit the job because i cant survive with this job. You think Sam made RM30k per month ? 5 month yes but he talked like he is the boss. I am wonderring
the ppl must be stupid to buy toyota from this no.1 salesman. wei no 1 salesman why waste ur time comment here? go to ur merz or bmw section plz. oh wait u cant afford one? poor fella. Certainly not everyone who drive a toyota nowadays is rich i have seen some rich tauke staying at bangalow driving proton but has house as big as ur house x10.how many who drive big big car who gone broke? another fella who think he is so good one day if u owe bank too much money den good for u for thinking ure rich ppl HAHAHAHA becoz bank love to make u think u are rich but the fact is ure only ikan bilis to them. Dont talk cock asshole over there
Impersonator.
Funny how a salesman thinks he is able to judge who is smart and dumb..
wtf..pakai toyota itu semua sama pakai perodua juga..itu alza dan myvi sama kat jepun namanya passo..so apa kelas sangat dengan toyota..nothing special except you have bmw, volkswagen, audi, porche
What kind of definition is that? Wealthy = driving in a Toyota?
LIke honestly, I know people who are chauffeured around in Rolls Royces and they don’t go about dissing other people for their ownership of second rate cars.
Here’s what the wealthy drives:
German cars!
Here’s what the ultra-wealthy drives:
Italian supercars or British ultra luxury cars (many of which are under German ownership)
And btw, toyota cars aren’t that good, sure they’re better than Protons, but my Audi is far better. My Merc is also better than all your toyotas.
Also you stated that Proton buyers are the poor people of the society, the gov just bought some Protons, would you consider the government poor?
Najib’s electric bill is probably more than what you’ll make for your entire life, his government is by no means poor.
please, Mr Sam. you are not just critic on proton, you are just simply condemn all car manufacturers except toyota. and i have to say, i have a proton, a perodua, and a toyota. all of them have something i like and doesn’t. as other said, you can give your opinion on car, but don’t judge a person by what car he is using. if toyota is so damn good, why they put an old engine in their new vios? please, this is all just business and profit.if you are really that good, try to ask our government to low down the tax on car, so everyone can buy sushi brand or euro, then your effort will be appreciate by all malaysians.
addition: UMW, i fell sad because your company has a salesman like mr sam. shame on you, “rich” bastard but just a salesman.
A car is a liability,the more expensive a car you buy,the more you are in debt
So who is the poor one?
go figure
I agree with the first 2 paragraphs of your comment, but bashing Proton owners for being poor, that’s such an asshole move for someone like you. If I were to choose between your Toyol-ta Vios Dugong and this Perdana, I would take the Perdana.
@Gordon
Correction: his government is POOR. Just look at all the new and innovative ways they are extracting money from the citizens, GST, reduction in subsidy (though I think this is about time), electricity hike, potential toll hike, increase in assessment rates. Official announcements have been made that not enough people are taxed enough hence the GST. To extract money. From the people. (Maybe not you though, since you be a wet behind the ears kid that still lives under your mommma’s skirt (school is out now, so I know kids like you have tonnes of free time).
So tell my so-called “learned” friend, how is his government is by no means poor? Correction: Individuals in the government are by no means poor (like you rightly pointed out by your comment on the electricity bill). The Government as is Malaysia is nearing bankcruptcy.
Salutations to you budak kecik!
Hahaha. I rather drive a Perdana than a silly Vios. Japanese cars are over priced and are mass produced in some third world countries (except for the Lexus and the Infiniti). So please do not equate driving Protons with being poor. Will the rich really be driving the Vios? I know many people who have German and french cars at home but still have a Proton at home instead of some overpriced Japanese models.
Toyota is overrated in malaysia.. the fact that it saves fuel a lot shows that it was meant for poorest people in the society that cant afford fuel hike..
and the tax impose on cars makes u escape higher income tax.. see that every country that implies lower tax on their cars will increase tax in income tax.. heck some country do both like singapore..
Both Junior old uncle salesman talk coxk. Live in your real world Sam and Sam Hilux, dont continue to dream. I know Toyota sales is bad, being a sales man, you also shame with your job since there is no achievement. At least try to be a man, dont talk like bodoh all the times. Malu
sam, you are a total idiot. do u really think that most wealthy people are born wealthy? like u said, hard work.. yes, so many of them would have started of with a proton because it is affordable, including me. A salesman will always speak like a salesman, never more. On the contrary, salesmen are often being shown the broomstick or the palm. so please dont make me insult u any further. Sorry for my harsh words
Bla bla bla, you Kimchi and proton buyers can say what you like to say. One year later, i will only take your K5 at 40% and I want to see your hailat face. Thank you for making me so rich. Ony no head people buy low RV car. You make me get more hilux at the yard to keep your Kimchi.
ha..ha…thanks Mr. Sam Loo because he told everybody I am come from rich and wealthy family which all member from my family owned a “Toyota”，thanks bro,good job…
eh…eh….btw who can lent me some money to settle the restaurant bill? don’t worry, im from “rich” family, im sure will return the money
I own a merc and BMW but I also own a proton. I do not think I am poor. I bet I am richer than you.
Another thing, if you are rich you do not have to bother about taxes on the car. There are many who are wanna be rich guys here but are actually poor men.
Government got time to do all this strecth limo and rebadged Honda and all that but big question in everybody’s mind is this…
Where is Najib’s promise of 30% reduction in car prices over a period of 5 years? Najib promised before the election that if we voted for him and BN, he would ensure that he would match PKR’s offer to reduce car prices. Najib himself quoted saying that the BN government would reduce car prices by up to 30% gradually over 5 years and we should trust BN. Infact he said BN always keeps to their word. 6 months have passed and nothing has been done.
Infact companies like Toyota and VW have increased their prices. What matters now is where is Najib’s promise and not some special stretch limo made by Honda for the PM.
So shameful. People’s outdated trash, given to us to use. Might as well use Honda personnel used underwear. They give us their underwear, lets all happily use it. Already 30 years Mitsubishi gave us outdated engines as part of their trash, now, Honda’s turn to dump their trash to us. We Malaysia is a dumping ground.
Underware? LOL
Then tell other brands too : Holden, Renault. Aston Martin for Nissan for sharing “outdated trash” from other manufacturers by platform sharing and rebadging.
It’s business, let them do it.
In reply to Najib’s Empty Promise
As your title says, don’t bother waiting for the 30% tax reduction from BN. After a controversial win at GE13, BN quickly sent out statements that reads, “The government has no intention of reducing car prices as Malaysians are already enjoying low prices….. it was on The Star.
Seriously, those who believed BN, you have been fooled yet again.
outdated?
r20 engine still use by latest civic and crv. the engine might be outdated but still in production and use by honda.
@ Blank
Actually, just reiterate that Sharing platforms and rebadging is 2 different things.
Brands you mentioned, sharing same platform but still designing their own respective cars and own technology as well as producing their own cars.
As for Rebadging, in this case, it’s an outright Honda Accord previous model and Proton just slap on their own badge. You cant really call the latter a brand new car can you?
Just don’t understand why spending time on re-badged and stretch the Accord. Why not spending time on a take over proposal to other manufacturer, Malaysian would be more happy if Proton accept VW group offer at the first place.
If that happen Proton share holder may propose to VW to kill the current Skoda dealership and re-badge Skoda as our National car for domestic market, wow that will be beautiful and especially Skoda car are getting more and more sexier…What about New Skoda Octavia for 85k? haha
http://paultan.org/2012/12/12/all-new-skoda-octavia-third-gen-sedan-debuts/
Wick3dbox
So what? As i mentioned before this is business.They do business don’t they?
Only Idiot will believe BN. As the car prices not coming down instead all the other price of goods has increased. So in conclusion do you think the car reduce will happen!
What a farce by the new management. At least Inspira is not an outdated model eventhough it is also a rebadge. Inspira is also assembled at Proton’s own plant, not like this joke which is assembled at Honda Melaka.
U are right bro.1.8 inspira manual use 4B10 mitsu engine. Siapa cakap “outdated”. Fuel consumption “fantastic”. Tak caya. Go ask Inspira owner.
diam lah BOJ… if u wan to talk about the stupid inspira first mention about the sales target first… until now i have seen less than 10 times on the road… compared to kimchi like elantra and even the new cerato also can see it everyday…
to Passerby
i m curious whr u stay. in KL almost every corner u can spot an inspira easily. especially those lancer or evo wanna be. oh u cant spot one from their half way modification? poor u. n seriously cereto? that is what i call a seen less then 10 a day car.
eh passerby….who cares about sale volume? memang lah sale tak tinggi sebab keta mahal kerana nak bayar kat mitsu.High spec preve pun murah daripada low spec inspira. People who dont study details can easily be persuaded into buying cars that only look nice but RV drop faster than the speed of light.You should go to a bookstore and look for a book “Car Buying Guide For Dummies”.
No idea why we have to take rubbish and obsolete parts from Jepun. Why our Gomen do this? Strike a deal with Jepun to sell Malaysians obsolete and useless engines? Mitsubishi did this, now Honda’s turn to sell trash to us.
This is another penjajahan by the Jepun.
Same thing happen when the British came to jajah us and when the Japanese came to jajah us in the 50s. Our government then collaborate with them to strike a deal to do business. To want to make money for themselves. Then, got our country into trouble and colonised. Just one or two small ships sail to Malaysia, can overthrow few hundred thousand people kah?
The same happening now. Our government collborate to do business with Honda Japan to make Malaysia Japan dumping ground. Honda Japan also happy. They can sell old engines to us to clear stock. Why can’t we use our Campro engines and a new body designed by Proton?
Our Gomen again selling Malaysia to be colonised again. No backbone to do things on their own.
new crv and civic still use r20. what obsolete?
Oh please if you so good please prove you are better in pricing. After some time in power propose for higher pay. Where the money will come form definitely from the people. Always criticizing but look at your self seem everything is perfect, is it true. Please learn more about economy and write.
Hey “Memalukan Maximum”, you are wrong! Proton is not having “Zero international name”. In fact, it was quite famous, but famous for its inferior quality of the car. LOL
another 1 already kaboom…
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ko ni askar digital kumpulan mana?
to tell you the truth, most Chinese can write in malay fluently. kenapa nak belakon jadi Chinese tulis bahasa melayu tak fasih?
please do write properly. it is a bit troublesome to see someone writing rubbish in paul tan´s blog. Hence showing the type of mentality to the one who is writing.
Used to admire and want to buy Honda but no more. Company got no dignity and pride. Just sell themselves just for mere extra proft.
No shame Honda. No shame also Proton. Gomen give you hundreds of millions of grants and cannot design your own car. Do rebadge and tell whole world you design your own car. Shamelss Proton. 30 years also cannot do anything right
Honda is admirable really. Also Mitsubishi and Daihatsu. They managed to convinced A COUNTRY to buy their trash. All old stuff like old inefficient engines and designs is sold to Malaysia.
They basically made Malaysia, their dumping ground. Who let this happened? Be End.
So, they say they really care about rakyat safety when they try to implement the 12 years end of life policy. Then why sell old cars/engines to the rakyat? Isn’t old cars unsafe in their point of view?
Old stuff doesn’t mean not good. This chassis got 5 star ANCAP while the latest got only 4. Which one is better and safer?
Ok, maybe you are the one who says 2 airbags are still better than 6. LOL
And why so much fuss with rebadging? Later proton will come up with new design.
Gila la mat. Itu manyak bagus punya explanation. Kasi tiao sama meleka.
xpayahlah nak buat poyo dan tunjuk awak tu bodoh.ini blog automotive,bukan blog politik murahan
I definitely support “orang melayu”. Ya la, what is so great about the Chinese, even u write also want to be Chinese pelat?
And please lah, dont simply write to kutuk each other. Never-ending…
ahhh.. u too, ehhh ? me tooo!
hello, no race involve pls. whats ur meaning by saying what so great about chinese.
we got some very great malay which i respect , even chinese or other races got the good guys and the bad guys. so do the malay. So pls dont generalise the “kaum” issue.
haha same goes with pakatan gov, use rakyat money to buy camry and Harrier
The long stretch car is to carry all Rosmah’s handbags and cincin.
Rosmah dun wan to ride this cheapskate car. She want at least Benz, prefer it to be rolls royce. Have u ever seen her riding Proton Perdana? What I have seen, only Najib alone ride Perdana. If he is with Rosmah usually Benz…………
Benz ?? Its Ranger Rovers down in JB when they went down to Johor..pe la benz
of course.. a big car for a big body.
are u saying me ?
u pakai rambut ke helmet…
And we shall hijack them like Italian Job, more like Malaysian Job using Viva. :D
Now.. now.. hopefully they’ll use this instead of flying. That’ll definitely can save travelling cost. Please don’t only use it for short distance travel. What’s the point of having a comfortable car just for short distance?
Next time when PM needs to go somewhere connected by road, then please use the stretched Perdana. Stop wasting the money!
Kita tunggu tengok~
Ni tak boleh lalu banjir..
agreed. if those vvip have ceremony in arau or jb, use this official car. don’t use plane. feel the burden of paying the fuel and tolls, and traffic jam.
eh, you guys use govt money. ok la.
@Pirlo :
but actually they won’t be feeling the burden of traffic congestion, because they have a lotttt of escorts who will ask us to give way to these people. We pay for the tax as well damnn
U guys are a bunch of optimistic folks. If our fren and his big spouse is capable of that thinking, he would have won a landslide victory in the elections.
I bet u with my last cock that he doesn’t give a damn about this car let alone use it for official functions.
U must be kidding to think that he can ride on an ordinary “accord” around town?
I love my cock so ain’t gonna bet mine with anything..
But anyway, I did have the same feeling, but without any proof there’s no point pointing fingers. Instead, fingers crossed, and hope for a change.
If that’s not happening, then it’s time for bloody bashing!!!
fair enough.
What a lovely conversation gentlemens! Quite a rare scene in this site.
Please don’t just say to the others but look at you self, are you the perfect person. Best in the world.
rogaz, u’re a real cock. what an excuse to approve of the wrong doings by that guy in power.
nobody is perfect. right. but that doesn’t give u the license to splurge on the people’s money.
so if a police catches a thief, you’ll tell the policeman to look at the mirror and that the thief is not perfect? i wonder if your brain is in your ass.
Proton is a company like Toyota or BWM how can you say Proton taking people money. If like that Yokohama taking people money. Everybody doing business taking people money. I know people like saying bad to other people but you worse like your word full of hate in heard is that what you living for to blame people. Please produce a better car help the poor. Do not bring what we already have but build a new one and proof you are better.
You don’t read kah? LATER proton will come up with new design. Sigh. And about plane, sigh. Why plane was invented again? Sigh, use your brain.
I always look myself into the mirror.. yes, still charm as always, and I got my brain still functioning.
I’m trying to make my point simpler.. hopefully I’ll make it easier to get it through you.
What I’m arguing was that:
1) Najib should use the car more and fly less. 2) When he does that, then he spent lesser government money. The government money is actually rakyat’s money from tax collection.
3) That’s it. My argument is accountability. Memimpin itu suatu amanah.
There’s nothing about whether being perfect. He’s willing to take the responsibility, then he should be willing to pay for the cost as well.
Saga SV if put “H” logo looks like honda accord :-)
should be W1M…1 Malaysia
or 1 Malayu
wallap satu malaysia
Should be Wang 1 Malaysia
Proton memang muka tembok tak tau malu lah! BOOOO
itu macam manyak car makers also muka tembok maaa, sebab semua pun ada rebadge maaa
name me 1 carmaker that has a government protection and rebadging for internal market. i am curious of the outcome too
GM??
Holden Australia.
I can name another 2, Ford and Chevrolet. Please read Detroit Motor Crisis a.k.a The Big Three Crisis.
Actually a lot other company got gov backup. Even GM, ford and even toyota usa got bail out by US gov during monetary crisis. Yess.. tak taau malu punya jepon… simpan duit pon tak pandai. Our gov have yet to bailout proton. But still give protection. Which is 2 different thing.
Subaru BRZ rebadge Toyota 86
Rebadge and Share platform are 2 different things bro.
Rebadging is sort of sharing. Only its component being shared is more than only the platform.
aiyo jgn tengok numbor! perdana nie kan canggih!
I wish P1 will follow the foot steps Ala Holden ,
cheerio fr Melb
Ya follow the foot steps of Holden, shut down after 2017. All Malaysian will be very happy.
Yeah later cry again coz the excise duty is still there, lol.
Gold mining for Gov and cronies, it’s junk from Japan, they need to trash the old tech/machine.
It’s free money into the pocket system/process, millions/billions was spent on the rebadge activities. Millions/billions will be spent in future on it. It’s lots of good deal in it, god is watching!
Aussie has Holden but they are doing much better job than our beloved Proton and the MOST important things is they do not heavily tax on other car marques! to make Holden super affordable.
Here – if you tak ade wang beli Proton, lead you not other choice!
Pass the 10 million fund to a local workshop that is good in modification. Im sure they can come out a better solution than those Engineers & the Management team in Proton. Just find a reliable platform, copy and modified like what the japs did in the 80’s. Im very sure a new model could be born every 2 to 3 ys time… Why pay multi-billion ringgit over these years to feed these bunch of scumbag in Proton?? And best of all, who pay for these scumbag?? its MALAYSIAN!
So ugly.. But if they don’t extend it, Rosmah cannot go in :(
she is not supposed to use government official car, she didn’t hold any post in the cabinet
ya coz she only use government private jet.. and she didn’t hold any post in the cabinet
car also kenot fit, u think cabinet still can fit meh….
… but najib love her!
~LOL
You have no idea how awesome is a BBW in bed~ LOL!
BBW? What the heck is that?
In this case Proton should extend Toyota Alphard instead….
should hv higher ground clearance and bigger rear tyres too
better paultan.org uses Disqus commenting platform..this 1 hard to fake like/dislike unless u change account not just simply refresh browser or open multiple browsers…
If not extended, can still go in. It is always easy to push in but to pull back out…….gosh. Headache starts here. :p
if rosmah want to get in, proton should extend it. they should widen it.
Who care about widen the car – private jet is awaiting and at service…
Rosmah is in the boot…
why bother put her inside? put her kat atas la.
if you stare the car , like real long.
and google Raja Gobal’s face and put it side to side to the picture picture. You’ill find the similarity. LoL. This time le , very waste.
Lagi kelakar , ada yg tanye . Ape pasal tak taruk skali Menterinye.
saga loooonngggggg stretch out car
First was inspira, now is perdana……GOSH
So what’s wrong with that? rebadging is very common across all automakers. Even Peugeot, Citroen, Chevrolet, Ford, Holden, Volvo, Toyota, Perodua did the same thing on some of their cars. Even Ferrari shares their F430 platform and engine with the Lancia Stratos. Australia’s Holden also rebadge from Ford for more than a decade. So what’s wrong with that? Most Malaysian really know very little about cars, and yet they act like they know alot. And stop saying rebadging is copy-cat! It is under an agreement between two automakes and it is legal. In this case both Proton and Honda will profit from this, that’s why Mitsubishi are willing to share their lancer with the inspira. And the truth is Inspira sells a lot better than the Lancer, so Mitsubishi makes a lot of money from the Inspira as well.
yawn…….au…..
Yeah yeah yeaaaa, to follow the trend of other car manufacture Proton must keep rebadge and rebadge in order to become global player.
Am i correct?
Proton = Jaguh Pelekat Lencana!!! Lol
No.Perodua actually
This is another polite way of saying re-badge. Good. :)
Lets rebagde china cars..some people will love that..
That’s a bit deep and harsh at the same time.
why you guys notice those rebadging products like lancer and accord? let’s consider from year 2000 where proton did their home-ground car. waja, gen-2, neo, saga flx, preve, exora, suprima.
how many was that?
i believe this accord project is because of govt pushing proton to replace perdana. however, no d-segment available, hence, accord has to be used (drb own both proton & honda malaysia). i blame govt for coming out this proposal rather than proton. proton is the victim. najib (or rosmah) is now know malaysia are in debt more than half trillion ringgit. why would they want to have new cars when it is not necessary? inspira is still new. exora can be modified to make it look luxury. doesn’t make sense.
i want to correct the mentality, supporting proton doesn’t mean supporting BN.
To Me … Keep giving excuses is not a solution to the root. Don’t waste tax payers RM. After so long still re-badge – don’t waste RM into Proton – just become Perodua easier !
to me it is not an excuse. it is a fact that currently proton don’t belong to govt/khazanah. now the company is wholly privatized. the profit gained will be used for next project’s capital.
unfortunately, some invisible hand from govt want to interfere with proton’s plan.
The shame is our PM ride on a stretched fuc*ing Accord! Honda Accord drive by average people is America but become Luxury car in Malaysia. And about rebadge. Holden rebadge latest car from Chevrolet, Skoda rebadge latest from VW. Nissan rebadge latest from Dacia and Mitsubitshi rebadge latest from Nissan. Proton rebadge PREVIOS from Honda and use it as official car. What the heck was that?
It’s more surprising to hear proton head saying “… I represent all Warga Proton when I say that this moment serves as inspiration and motivation for us to work even harder than ever, to continue leading the national automotive industry…”
so Proton is inspired & motivated to re-badge harder from now on? And it represent all staff fr Proton (those talented, do U agree?)
But as usual, najib pick the most obedient ‘shoe-polisher’ as head of all GLC.
Peter, u r invite to give a speech at a big event. wad do u expect? some of the ppl here are so hell-bent on condemning proton in wad ever they do to the extent that their brains got bashed as well.
Clearly you dont know ANYTHING about cars. The lancia stratos was a customized built one off car by a customer who owns a ferrari f430, built on its chasis and engine and it was not built by ferrari. Yes rebadging is common like ford and holden but what proton has done, its purely a rip off. A car company with no soul and passion, but just wants to profit from its own rakyat. F U PROTON!
You sound just like MonkeyBung on Proton Inspira’s launch…. The Perdana is a niche product only, can’t see why Proton need to waste money developing products which can’t sell, it is nice to have product, not need to have product… Better for Proton to develop products for mass market like Saga, Exora, Preve and new B-segment Savvy Replacement Model while still maintaining the fun Lotus Ride and Handling and improving the quality of existing products..
“A car company with no soul and passion, but just wants to profit from its own rakyat”
the above statement more to P2 i guess.
agreed. perodua are more greedy. myvi compact 1.5 is expensive than sedan persoan 1.6? remember umw? previa cost 270k with 2 airbags and no vsc?
U missed the point. It probably cost more to re-badge for the Malaysian government when the government can just purchase it directly from Honda, or some other make if they want a stretched version.
And, most rebadge by other auto makers are about learning from each other or to reduce R&D. Proton Honda collaboration is a one way street with proton learning nothing.
and you sir, how come you know they didn’t learn anything while working with honda? have you ever been into any discussion they had or you are just simply a kid that don’t know what to do with your miserably life and decided to bash anything about proton just so everyone could recognised that you are even there? hello..
After 30 years of learning from Lotus and Mitsubishi… where is the global car? by self-declaring preve a global car doesn’t mean anything, sales will say if it is a global car or not…
Latuk Bandar, what is 30 years of learning from Mitsubishi? from 1985 until 2000. Lotus was bought by Proton on 1996.
Don’t you think proton has among the best handling in its class? it was originated from Lotus.
how do you know this ‘perdana’ cost more than accord? rebadge also like CKD maa… mulah mulah
common sense mah. if you buy directly from Honda without modifying vs Buy then modify… which one cost more?
rebadge is more than slapping logo, need to stock up, set people to meet, discuss… etc.. all cost money. better just buy directly.
Learning nothing? Did you miss where it says Proton can do whatever it wants with the Accord platform and in two years a proper model will be launched?
Latuk Bandar… Common Sense mahhh… Basic principles of manufacturing… You develop new design, you have to dump tons of money in designing, R&D etc… You copy or rebadge or tiru or ciplak, no cost of the above involved… Maybe pay small amount of royalty to Honda because it is an old design… Get the new design which is the latest will probably incur more money to pay the royalty so that is PROBABLY why Proton opted for the old design. In other way, that is one of the the opportunity for them to increase mtheir margin laaa… Apa laahhhhh…
I dont agree about the F430. But I agree about the model sharing. Lots of main manufacturer also doing the same thing these days. Its the industry trends.
Even the latest Maserati Quattroporte launched by Naza Italia a few days ago also built base on Chrysler 300 chasis..
But does the Messarati looks like a chrysler?no right? This is a total rip off like P2. Don’t mind if P1 use accord chasis but not like this laa
Only exterior are diff but interior lay out 100% same or similar with Chrysler 300.
This was collaboration project between Proton & Honda.. Mean Proton has limited right to redesign the exterior & interior.. As Proton claim they only allowed to change 17 part which has agreed & approved by Honda… Unless Proton bought Accord Chasis Platform than diff story…
Please check your facts, thank you.
The “new” Stratos was first conceived as a one-off model by Michael Stoschek. It was based on a body designed by Pininfarina adn the donor car was a Ferrari F430. The company Lancia which built the original Stratos had nothing to with this.
However, there is NO agreement by Ferrari with Michael Stoschek (or Lancia) to produce the new Stratos for the mass market. Please read this.
http://jalopnik.com/5820412/ferrari-blocks-production-of-new-lancia-stratos?tag=stratos
Stop making sweeping sensationaist statements about a car maker like Ferrari which is miles ahead of Proton (you can even say on a different planet).
Already used Japanese pantat….all of their design
The current generation of Holden is a re-batch Chevrolet and not Ford. This is because Chevrolet owns Holden (General Motors-Holden’s Ltd) right now. And I agree with you, there is nothing wrong with re-batching. In fact it might be better off for Proton to do so. At least now Perdana will be more durable now
Nothing wrong. Just says how talentless Proton is. And lets not sugar coat it, rebadging is outright copying! Just that it has been agreed by both car companies.
Also, the examples you quoted may not be the best. E.g. Lancia is owned by Fiat group which also owns Ferrari. Holden is more GM than Ford cos it is owned by GM and Mitshubishi? Well, lets just say that the only reason they are willing to do that is because they figured that with the duties and taxes, they will make more money rebadging than selling the Lancer outright.
But I want to ask something …. you mentioned that “Most Malaysian really know very little about cars, and yet they act like they know alot” and given your comments… are you part of that group too? :)
Then Perodua is more ‘talentless’. All of their cars are rebadged Daihatsu/Toyota. You bashers chose to ignore this. How childish.
sharing a platform and rebadging a car are two different things
Yup. Many car makers you mentioned above did rebadging their products. But the quality of their cars compared to Proton is vast difference.
Kalau rebadge jadi murah xpe la… ni rege mahal gile.
We all need to realise that the reason cars are expensive in malaysia is because we are are feeding… I mean protecting proton. After 20 years and still rebadging? Is it worth all our protection money? I would be more willing to pay to protect them if they had some talent and made better cars instead of shaming the country.
Problem with proton re-badging is they never even seem to care bout making styling changes.
rebagde? holden is from GM. please read more before write more. and so who are the koreans rebadging? yes other carmakers rebadge too but they also have something to offer for rebadge. it is a dumb argument to say just because others are doing it, it is ok to do it too. fact is, we have not come up with a winning product ever!
So Protons were never rebadged? Please read up on Youngman-Lotus.
Proton has been a curse to Malaysians for 30 years…
Ni bkn copy-paste, tp rebadge..rebadge ni benda biasa dlm dunia automotif..even merc pun rebadge renault kangoo utk jadikn merc citan..means that company besar2 pun amalkn rebadge..so ni pkara biasa..just sokongla industri automotif malaysia,baru la kita bleh naik sama mcm gergasi automotif yg lain..kena ada smangat nasionalisme dlm diri..tu yg pnting..bkn tikam jenama negara sndiri..
Patriotism has no place among young Malaysians today. A sad fact.
Young ppl are smarter, not like old fools whose just blindly accept rubbishes that package with patriotism tag word.
Are you old fool? Proton was not a big like multinational company when it’s established. Learning by rebadging then starting to make it from scratch. Like human, not all kids have rich parents. You got it?
The gov can easily use proton preve..if the want to make a special one for the pm they can have a limo preve…After all malaysia has its own local made car
Stretched version of Preve? Saloon version? nice concept. Make it wider too. Can someone produce a photoshop version of this? I wanna see the rendered version.
what engine are they using? honda or petrona e01?
That is the million dollar question..
kereta ni buat kat kilang honda alor gajah. semua engine and other compenent dari honda. lps siap terus hantar kat proton letak lambang proton.
>ikut cite kwn aku yg keje hondalh..
Both Honda Malaysia and Proton are under DRB Hicom. So… if they merge their factories, it is still possible.
I dunno what to do now because I have this model of Honda Accord. Can God help me?
i think the Lancer owner feels us..
Saga 1.5 ^.^
Not quite sure yet but the engines are 2.0 and 2.4 which is most likely Honda’s, not Petronas (Proton) engine… Quoted from Bernama..
2.0 i-Vtec + turbo and
2.4 i-Vtec + turbo LOL
After 30 years, hundreds of millions of ringgit in investment, our PM has to sit in a previous gen rebadged Japanese car.
I agree. Malaysia is a wealthy country and our top shot must ride on the best not the old version of a Japanese fanmily car. embarassing for nation and why Proton and Drb had to push so much for this outdated car for our nation? shame shame
used to be wealthy. now not anymore. lots of debt to pay (half trillion). and yet, pushing proton to rebadge accord.
why can’t najib & rosmah ride inspira? tak muat?
if they want malaysian to get a real premium car, juz rebadge the Acura RL! that will at least match the perdana name!
u tak cakap takda orang tahu punya, mereka akan tahu ini kenderaan nasional buatan Proton! Pride of the Country!
What pride? If it’s not because the government protectionism on local car policy for the past 3 decades, proton would have closed down long time ago! Now they are making us to pay a premium for cheap imported cars. Pride? You are still in your wonderland.
he is being sarcastic la… -__-
Shutting down proton but the tax is still there because proton is not the tax setter, Lol
Buatan Malaysia. Vios buatan Malaysia, Jazz buatan Malaysia, Rio buatan Malaysia, Cerato buatan Malaysia, Passat buatan Malaysia, but why all price so high?
Its billions, not millions..
Hmmm…. Betul jugak !?!?!? … Back to Jap Version :)
Well, if he gets a Merc S600L you guys will say, “membazir duir rakyat etc”. Come on lah…
Actually if our PM rides on a MErc S600L or even BMW 750iL. it shows the power and financial position of the country. people who say it is Rakyat money must know that if our PM gets a Merc S600L one day the car belongs to governement and Rakyat and not to PM. to get our PM to ride on this outdated limo whoich I am sure is done by Proreka is not good image for Malaysia. this is not a pride for a nation.
we are 20 years behind the Japs so deserve lor
W 11 N
Why 11 Najib?
I thought 1Malaysia… :-)
should be entitled new slogan 1 melayu
if that happen, will be better………….
Better? U think too much. 1 melayu not for ordinary melayu. Its only for UMNO cronies. If u think that becoming a crony will make u have a good life, u r wrong.
the front is good looking but they should have remodeled the back more…
maybe the civilian model could?
To be honest the front really looks quite good. But the back….
Current Accord owner will cry… Sure price drop just like Lancer-Inspira.
this model is not release for public
11 cause DS Najib likes the number 11.
Wouldn’t it be much cheaper to buy it from Honda instead of getting Proton involved.
why must the car be rebadged to a proton!? why can’t the government just buy from honda and be done with!?
I will tell you why. its because proton is a crony company. some big shot umno guy must be making money. And we the people are the ones who will end up paying for it via GST, increase sugar price (don’t let them fool you into thinking that they are doing it for our good), increase electricity and soon toll.
I really hope I am not the only one who is sicken by all the bs going on.
not to mention is 2 litre engine so roughly around above RM 100k assuming the price around then all accord fans will bleed in their heart :P
Surely you are the capitalist type that just think dollar and cent without thinking about developing your own self. I bet if you want to have a child, you prefer to buy a brilliant toddler than raising one from your wife’s womb and make the toddler a brilliant child.
We help them for more 30 years. The richer ones are not the employees but the owners. Think about that la bro.
If Proton want to develop something at their own expense then fine. But why must I as a tax payer be the one to foot the bill!? even if you don’t pay taxes, you soon will via GST. This is just a money making scheme. Free money for Proton.
If Proton were a person, he will be a shameless 30 year old bum living off his parents. Probably have a small penis too!
BTW the part about capitalist, baby, etc, what the fck are you yapping about!? If the baby is going to be as idiotic as you, then I would rather ‘buy’ one.
This is why living here gets harder. I wonder how the reliability is. More and more of our money goes missing and this turn out
yup. gst will be implemented sooner. but, just remember. proton doesn’t belong to khazanah/govt anymore. proton is now wholly owned by drb, a private ltd company. proton don’t have rights to have money injection from govt as khazanah now don’t invest to them.
give up bro, ppl who like to bash forever will bash…let them be~
I wonder why PM’s car window can have such black tint. No ned care JPJ meh. Law applies to all of us you know…….
please learn more about the law with regard to this issue. thank you.
if jpj saman gov car, there is no profit.
That number plate doesnt look like its up to JPJ specs, oh wait, its for the PM, nevermind….
it is legal. it follows the new wilayah format.
W 11 N is Wilayah, number 11 and than sequence N. Just like the first new Wilayah format. W 1 A.
nothing special… zzz… haiz..
Such a disgrace that our beloved PM’s drive is a past-gen model with engine vibration issue.
if im not mistaken, the engine vibration only occur on past generation accord.. not the 2008-2012 model.
toll fees increase next…. what’s wrong with our country…?
is there anything left for drb to be proud of itself? they have made proton their dying pet project and are killing it by doing this outdated car and cars to come. simply because they are not intersted in spending money on R&D. just pass multi million dollar supoply contracts to their own friends and kill the smaller ones in the process.
the ones who gave negative to my comments must be drb Warga who get all the main contract to supply their products to proton. they buy cheap parts from China, re-package and sell expensive to proton and get their money and make proton look bad.
bulletproof?
Nothing to lose?
far away, far away
not needed.. their face is thicker and stronger than Kevlar..
PROTON FAIL AT ALL..!!!
W !! N ? wiin? hahaha.. because NAJ1B won PRU 13.. keh3
#sarcasm
goddemit. get a preve and fatten it up so it fits D segment. leave honda alone!
Nothing special.
Nice car, I want to buy one. how much?
you can get it at the second hand car dealer with the badge many of us know as “honda”
Its not the second proton..its the third proton that using 2nd generation name..satria still using on its new model..making it also use 2nd generation name..hehe..:D
I don’t think rebagding is a sin necessarily, but this and the Inspira shows poor planning on the part of PROTON.
Since platform development costs are too high, I wonder if PROTON should consider an alliance with any of the American carmakers such as Lincoln, or even Ford USA; one that essentially allows PROTON to outright buy/use their large car platforms for their Perdana replacement. There are some sleek models there, and since they are not sold in Malaysia, it shouldn’t be much of an issue. Samsung does something similar in Korea don’t they, where they use Renault platforms for the S car brand in Korea (only sold in Korea)?
hello my fren.. easier said than done laa.. usa market is lhd.. if brought to bolehland need to convert to rhd some more.. more development cost.. renault-samsung no problem coz both already lhd market..
Ok. Perdana is rebadge of Accord.
Next, Persona is rebadge of Civic.
It’s unlikely.. Proton have the Preve as C-segment vehicle… Frankly speaking, the Preve is the 2nd gen Persona replacement.. Besides I think the current Civic is not much better than Preve, in fact it is worse than previous gen Civic..
Next will be G3 CRV’s turn. It will be P1 first SUV.
W11N – Najib WIN, no 11 memang sinonim dgn najib.
Wondered how much will the maintenance cost be…
for public, around rm400 / service,
for government, it cost rm10,000 / service
I never actually thought they’d do it….
but they did.
I mean, it looks so wrong on so many levels. Rebadging is one thing, but come on, at least make it look decent.
This looks more like a frankenstein Accord.
The guys at Honda Japan must be face palming so hard right now.
i dont want to condemn Proton although my experience with my former Gen2 is not very pleasant after 5 years.. but no matter what.. Perdana should have had a new model long time ago. Those who criticised so much.. and booing Proton are mostly Proton users…
Is it me or the Proton badge at the rear just seems out of place. Like it doesn’t belong on the car. It don’t match the rest of the car.
I thought it was my eyes..but..anyway..
Copy accord.. Tukar sket2.. Da mcm saga flx
I was wondering how PM feels when riding a Honda Accord with national car-maker batches.
Now Everyone Can Drive Like A PM.
Not only now, before then also everyone who own Proton Perdana can ride like a PM, though not one with big exhausts, turbocharged engines and manual gearbox…
I smell jealousy in the air, everywhere!
Love is in the air
previous generation Honda Accord?
i believe, Honda will not release to proton the new generation easily unless no more accord models in malaysia.
In terms of maintenance, honda sparepart is much expensive, with proton brand hope the price is much cheaper.
btw good luck proton for this model. don’t wait too long for consumer….
waiting for detail specs.
this oni for gov..not for public
“but it will be developed further for a general market introduction in two years time.”
“The mass market car will continue to use this shared platform but will have a COMPLETELY NEW exterior and interior”
nothing to proud of it… joke of the day…
Nothing to be proud of, but it’s no joke.
If you want a joke, take a look inside your pants.
what? you always find looking inside your pants entertaining?
a Mercedes 600 this ain’t
That one no comparison to this… That’s a legend.. A Grosser… Dictators and Presidents worldwide have one..
Their denial syndrome is reach to the MAXXXXXX level!
I don’t think Proton must spend millions of Ringgit to develop a new D-segment car which cannot sell and uncompetitive… Better to develop cars for mass market which can sell like Preve, Exora, Saga’s and Savvy’s replacement model while still maintaining the pure spirit of Lotus Ride and Handling.. Quality and reliability of new and existing products must be improved as well… Proton also have taken a leap in terms of safety as well with Preve and Suprima S models.. I do think rebadging is Proton’s best option for now to replace aging 1st gen Proton Perdana fleets, though personally for me its better for Honda to supply Accords themselves to the gov, but the gov rejected the offer, so what to say? I’m sure Proton had been sleeping for a long time, but not today anymore…. They are moving, bit by bit, in the right direction, it’s late, but never too late…
Does anyone know if Proton does any NCAP safety test on these elongated cars? Elongated original perdana, accordana? Does it even get a safety rating? Iguess if it is involved in an accident, the passengers won’t fly out the front window.
I don’t want to sound heartless, but ‘some people’ must die, for Malaysia to live.
you are absolutely correct since this car is not release to public.
Rosmah’s birthday is on 10 dec, perhaps najib gave this car to his boss (Rosmah)?
So what is under the hood? Petronas engine or vtec 2.4 or 3.0. But i think it is underpowered.
The government can’t get Honda for their official car so they ask Proton to rang up Honda to get them a rebadge Honda.
Well. If you guys look at it this way.
dan kaki2 bodek dan pecacai akan berkata, waahhh!! cantiknya kereta niiii..dengan bangganya(macam tak pernah tengok pulak model ni), memang cocok dgn pm kita! memang PROTON ni bijaklah sangat2!
come on bro. aku support proton, tapi aku kutuk BN, najib dan rosmah.
apa kejadahnya puji bini sendiri masa perhimpunan umno?
Hmm…
No comment.
Come, proton bashers… Unleash your stupidity…
No need sir, you already shown urs mr.supporter … We give u a chance to shine and proud of this achievement …
“I want to make up my Honda Accord to Proton Perdana” Says nobody
ala sama je la 2-2 parti pun
parti sini pakai honda accord re-badge
parti sana pakai camry full spec
kita rakyat juga hutang kereta 9 tahun
korang undi saya jadi PM semua menteri dan wakil rakyat saya paksa naik myvi. jimat minyak
:3
Myvi betul ke jimat minyak?
Joke of Malaysia. “sigh” If i’m rich enough i’ll migrate to other country. Malaysia is hopeless
this country doesn’t need people like u. shoohhh
Well you dont have the right to shoooo me out of this country. Living in this (soon going to bankrupt) country i dont see any hope in future. Keep on supporting BN. W11N ma. What proton had done? Keep on rabadging? Suprima S is a failure. You all may deny this but this is the fact. Even other Korean/Jap brand that launched later than Suprima S are on the road and you can easily see them. Value for money? Bitch please. I hardly see any suprima S on the road. Even if i do, that’s the test drive unit. :)
Suprima S is a good good car Boy. Only bad Boy like you makes Proton looks bad. Open up your heart toy Boy. And don’t be Boyish.
Suprima S is rarely seen on road? Then take this : New Vios is more rare but preve are soooooo many
lelelelelelel
Just go out of malaysia Boy, nowhere is perfect especially to follow what u need. Weak or not successfull enought is not failure, the future and chance is there. Please be positive, be thankful to god we can still live and can work, but nobody care who u are who think that outside is so much-much-much HOPE…
ramainya orang cina nak lari dari malaysia….sungguh ku x percaya… ramai pulak yg kutuk…tp barang dari nagara komunis cina tu yg dok copy semua barang harta orang lain….pandai pulak buat buat diam…sungguh hebat cina malaysia skrg…hebat juga melayu skrg…
to urgt.
Are you saying Vios more rare? You must be blind. The only cars that flood the road is Myvi and Vios and you’re saying Vios is rare? Dude,Vios has been in the market for more than 10 years. Wake up.
Boy, you are the one who blind.
Did you see I used phrase NEW VIOS? You know it la the ugly catfish car. It’s good not to see it many on road compared to Preve because the catfish design is very bad to eyes. Not to mention it’s overpriced and underspecced.
hahahaha hahahaha hahahah ahaha
yup. you are very hopeless. go out and play at the field. have a real meaning of life. don’t just sit in front of computer.
You, sir, has no patriotism whatsoever. This country can do better without you.
Many car companies do share platform,example: Toyota/Subaru, Citroen/Peugeot, Nissan/Renault, Hyundai/Kia and many more, but both companies put their sweat and blood to make the product work for each company. They put their hard earned capital,knowledge and technology to develop TOGETHER a product worth Global/whole world market sale.As for P1 rebadging, it’s just a waste of time and whole lot of NAPping to make easy buck.
Govt : Ok Honda, please supply us your Accord model as we’re replacing the Perdana.
Honda : Ok boss.
Proton : Bosss..don’t la like this. We promise we will come up with a new Perdana.
Govt : Ok we shall see.
Proton : halo Honda, can we use your Accord to be as our new Perdana.
Honda : Sure, after all we’re going to launch a new Accord.
Proton : Ok cunnn..
Few months later…
Proton : Bossss….here’s the new Perdana from us..
Govt : what the hell…isn’t this the same Accord which we intend to buy previously?
Proton : yea boss..we took their design and sell it to you.
Kerja penyamun macam ni only in Malaysia…
COPY CAT! COPY CAT! COPY CAT
Rubbish
Dude, it cal MOU\MOA aka agreement in business, something that give and take.its change in benifits.do U know it?
Bro you should add in.
Proton : Yea boss..we took their design and sell it to you at higher price…is that good for us! I rub your back you rub mine…..hahahaha..berapa mau order boss?
Govt: job welldone!!
Aku rasa bleh terjual khususnya untuk org melayu (aku melayu) Sbb budaya melayu nak benda yg best tapi murah.dan mudah lupa…
Sorry guys cant help it. Proton knows malay very well.
Everything goes up nowadays.. only rains goes down….
semua orang nak benda bagus yg murah lah… orang bodoh mana yg tak nak.. cina pun suka jugak..
proton FTW, proton can use lambo as all new perdana incoming 10years!!! Just wait for this to happen.
How can we be proud of this? The only thing we accomplish is copying. At least make an effort to make the car look different like what Mazda and Ford did with the Ranger and BT-50. At least do something like that.
Back to basis. Its all about price. If the price of this new Perdana similar with the previous Accord, or just lesser 5k-10k, and spareparts pricier than Accord, what a shame! The idea are about being nationalist and economical.
oh… this model is going to be soooooooooooooooo rare otr.
Reliable source indicates that the Accord was stretched 31″.
So, do the math lah to get the new wheel base. :)
Err,the summary is this car looks weird (or maybe ugly), & i dont think everyone are proud of it, coz its just a rebadge, so donno why the hell these gov folks are so happy about it…ohh yea, they like rebadge, just the same theory as they rebadge the foods product become 1 Malaysia products…
Got leg room…but, no hair room for Rosmah?! Pompadore!
yessss…..lepas ni harga honda accord jatuh…
Copy Round Round…?
Actually, the LWB version doesnt look too bad in the pictures. Probably can sleep almost flat in the car. By the way, any better/clearer pictures of the car?
I had told you guy to get the camry.Now you guy must he regret deeply now.Stick with camry you will still have higher RV .
Impersonator, K5 owner that was man handled to leave my yard today.
Lucky I hired a security guard that managed to get rid of the bugger that has been begging me to take his KIA.
Unless the price is RM30k or thereabouts, i will not accept. I am also taking a risk coz no one wants a used KIA
all the previous gen Accord owners who bought with their hard earned money would be so heart ache now… poor owners
All these years still unable to produce own car!!! Copy Cat!!!
I thought our government had placed an order to buy the 8th Generation Honda Accord?
Didn’t proud on what proton did for perdana? U can proud on preve,exora,suprima,saga flx,satria neo… All of this fully develop. Xnk tgok proton rugi, but when they came up with this solution, u say about proud? What the heck. This is gov fleet. Not for public. Mass produced perdana only launch on 2015 with accord platform. Platform means the chassis only, fully redesign body structure by proton. In case u dont know
I’m a Honda fans since long time ago, just got myself a honda accord few years back, but now this is so disappointing! No more honda for my next car!
I think rebadging a car is a step in the wrong direction. However, even the previous perdana model was nothing more than a re-badge so please people don’t act too surprised. Preve and suprima S, good for preve very good for suprima s was designed and built from scratch so cut them some slack. However I do fear that it may meet the same fate as the inspira if made available to the public. The Perdanacord / sharing of tech between honda and proton can benefit proton in the long run. so dry your panties guys, its a good test bed.
stupid move from proton, rebadging a old japanese car? now look what happen, the whole car looks cheap and unfinished. even a bmw 3 series can stole the spotlight from this piece of crap easily.
isn’t this disgraceful when our ministers meet up foreign VIP who think their cars are Honda Accord? very bad taste and decision indeed
Finally Honda can recycle their unsold old Accord. just order the proton badge.. Green Honda.. Good for Proton. For Rakyat … it’s up to you to name it…
20 years ago:
Mitsubishi Fiore -> Proton Saga
Mitsubishi Lancer/Colt -> Proton Wira
Mitsubishi Eterna -> Proton Perdana
Present:
Mitsubishi Lancer – Proton Inspira
Honda Accord – Proton Perdana
why the car looks 95% exactly like its original one?
now people will be skeptical looking at the Accord whether its Proton or Honda…
look very humble compared to chinese towkays in their gigantic rolls royces.
its all about Syed Mokhtar Al-Bukhary games.
Najib: Saya pun naik kereta Proton lah….
Rakyat miskin: Ya betul! Ya betul! Saya pun mampu beli Saga saja…
Hey Boy how Malaysia is hopeless? Just because Proton rebadge a car?Go whine to your mom instead of expose your naively here.
Wow, new Perdana! Will it be exported to other countries like Thailand, Australia or JAPAN and claim that this is brand new Proton Perdana!!
Yeah!
please read the post
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Shame on honda for copying the original design from proton and not only that…shameless honda copy also proton’s original name accord…tsk tsk… Now honda joining mitsu for copycat proton original design
I wonder why not the government take over mazda 30 years ago instead of wasting money developing from scretch. Proton is famous or infamous for its sub par product and reliability. The brand itself is worthless.
oh…. lucky they never take over…
coz, if they do take over we will not see the amazing Mazda CX-5 today.
joke of the day~~~~ as i said yesterday on the other post. history of proton rebadge car only will redesign abit bit of front bumper , rear bumper. added some chroming lip on bumper? remove trunk light? chance wheel design? what a joke of rebadge.
sometime i was thinking where does proton designer come from? did they study from university or collage before? all kind of those redesign bumper , trunk ( add some chroming lips ) kids can have this position of designer.
Proton is finally cutting cost after all these years! They are outsourcing to Honda for this particular model and stop making mistakes with new models such as Suprima S and Preve. Designing new model cost too much. This is a good way to go.
I want to buy Honda Accord.
Anyone want to sell out their old accord? I want to buy now coz you’ll sell to me at a very cheap price. And best part is i get to keep the Honda Logo.
Or… should I just buy the new Proton Perdana (which might be selling at cheaper price than new Honda accord) and then change the logo back to Honda?
I’m in a dilemma… our car market in Malaysia is very confusing.
To those who said we must help Proton to develop and grow. Oh well we helping them for more than 30 years already. But what we get back from them?
They said Proton help thousands of employees. But other car manufacturers also help thousands of employees by setting up local plants here.
The richer ones are still the owners of the company. These capitalists get millions of profit by ‘forcing’ people to buy Proton using patriotism methodology. So to hardcore Proton fans, pity you for being too stupid.
And you can learn from them for having that much patriotism inside them. But noooo I rather bash my own country brand and buy imported car since I’m bloody rich anyway
What we get back form Nissan which always expensive the spare parts after long time in business still don’t know how to manage production or just thinking of profit.
everyone is expert in car here.
build a car, is not like building a house. build a car, u need to ahve intensive research on the design, u need to have all the different new designed and built component parts.
you need new machine or robot to integrate all parts into one piece.
u need to minimise the cost to maximise the profit and momst importantly, create a master piece at the end.
rebadge or not rebadge, it is not as easy decision as ABC.
for malaysian automotive, since we can’t even build a decent engine even though spent billion in hiring foreign engineers, after 30 years, why not just rebadge ?
i love my toyota for its comfort and reliability. but, i also love proton for its ability to move from point a to point b.
so, if you can’t afford toyota and honda, so, do not bash it.
if u have a toyota or honda, just be proud of malaysian proton, at least we have a national cars.
Here, take my like!
If Proton works as a real private entity, not influence bu government, freely consider any commercial options include take-over/merging, freely pick the most voted CEO/Chairman, select supplier base on merits & cost, don rcv any gifted tax-exemption in the name of national building … and build a good quality, updated car etc. you can see the comments here will not mention abt gov & tax payers money.
Sure, Korea & Japan do support their national cars but they don have control stakes in each company that decide who will be the CEOs or chairman. And due to these reasons, they are competitive.
I really don’t understand wit u guys. When the news on perdana’s high maintenance cost came about, u guys were like accusing the proton cronies, workshop cronis, whatever cronies are making money from the high maintenance stuff.
After that when we first heard that the govt is going to replace the old perdana with honda accord, some of u were like criticizing and complaining so much saying that the govt is wasting “duit rakyat” on this expensive option.
And now from what i know, by doing the rebadge thing to replace perdana, the cost should be lower compared to purchase a real honda accord. But some of u guys still bashing proton saying like “Proton should be shame”, “embarrassing to the world”, “Copy-cat” etc…
There’s no way of satisfying everyone, am i right?
You are right sir.
Apa lagi malaysians mau??
elehhhh, this perdana only for govt officials. not for public sale. so why bother people?
Put on your spec and read carefully! The article said it will be for “the general market in next 2 years”….cheebye
u should use magnifying glass and understand correctly. the public gets new exterior and interior in a same platform. pookey lu.
ohhh..so now you do aware it’s for public as well?
When it’s time for service, will it be sent to Honda or Proton? :P
Myvi n viva pon tukar lencana gak….x bising pon..
oh… yeah… when will proton start rebadging SUV? VW Toureg? Honda CRV?
The plate should be W 1 M. 1 Malaysia katenye. Gitteeewww!
Good job Proton! Good strategy in break market share. Even u among the worse, but u share risk with other.well play in business
what PROTON know is COPY & PASTE
shame…. and our gov still proud on it…..
and tell everyone this new proton car…..
Copy paste? How about exora, persona, saga? That’s not copy paste, shame.
i see a lot of proton haters right here. but i still remember what was happen to lancer/inspira years back. lot of inspira on the road now, despite been bashed some time ago.
go & google laa..
how many other car has been rebadge around the world? betul betul katak bawah tempurung laa
cakap banyak … fikir sikitt
If you have a better idea do it yourself do not condemn other people decision. Go to china which they welcome all investor and produce a better and cheaper car because i want to buy your car. Please be fater.
Wonderful..now everybody can own an accord..pity for thoose who paid who honda accord. Hopefully the price will be below 100k.
No make is safe from the promiscuous rebadging monster that is Proton. First the Lancer, now the Accord. Who will be Protons next bedfellow?? My money is on VW!
Sucks to be an Accord owner now.
Kalau keluaran Proton mmg takde kualiti la.. serius.. Perodua ok lg.. Jarang bermasalah.. tp kalau Proton mmg teruk sgt2 la..
I am using 2 new proton and no quality issue. U get what u pay for. Go for perodua, not a safe car.. that your option. What a negative mentality u have
Teruk apa teksi buat 200000 km dalam setahun engine ok lagi you tahu apa pasal kereta. Itu dulu sekarang Alicafe ikutlah yang terkini bukan buka cerita lama. Toyota WISH minyak kuat bila bawak 170 tak do orang cerita. Spare parts mahal harga should be cheap tapi jual mahal.Kalau toyota bagus sangat buat harga murah macam Avanza melompat-lompat. Oh please this is business if you don’t know business keep quiet. For those who has business sell your spare part cheap if not possible respect other people don’t just make propaganda.
TQ BN ! We have accord to drive finally ! forget all the thing are rise , tol , petrol , sugar ~ yes for my health good no sugar , no electric .. i should going back forest stay on the trees ~
N dont forget state salary increase to Selangor Mb exco n the geng…thanks pr…
Hahah…
Wow …penang g bought camry how much commission lge got….
correct, correct..with sgor speaker salary if do savings for 4,5 months can buy new teana for cash!
Only …… Malay willing to support proton and always say proton is best no matter how rubbish it is.. Proton car better that Ferrari , Lamborghini. our proton won’t easily burn when getting an accident, but Lamborghini , Ferrari will… What a joke of this
what’s the engine type ya? curious here… could it be the petronas drivetrain?
This aint perdana. This is accord SV!
F41L
That suits you
let the accord owners butthurt kaw kaw… ahahahaha~!!!
Why would honda owners be butthurt to people who are driving the same car with a rubbish badge?
Who cares, at the end of the day it’s just a badge.
Why can’t gov use Merc … Rakyat will understand that rather than rebadged this, it confused every one!. And why every things need to involve cronies?
Korang neh semua x betul .. Buat salah, x buat salah .. Ada yg berlagak duit konon byk sgt lah … Setakat buat bisness bawak toyota ker honda ker, jgn berlagak la .. Apa kata korang buat keje masing2 jgn berlagak pandai kacau keje org lain .. Komen membina tak per la .. To salesman no 1 toyota, u r just in ur imagination .. Toyota came from washing machine history .. Lets do our job, tak suka dok malaysia, blah pi negara lain .. Jgn kacau org nk majukan negara … Loosers
It reminds me of something when I saw the pictures of new Perdana. Oh, I remember, Inspira! I used to like Evo Lancer, but when Inspira came out, my interest just gone. This time, Perdana but Accord-ish… God, my interest toward Accord is gone too. I’m not condemned Proton’s production but please, be more creative. Like you did to Preve. Frankly speaking, PREVE WAS A GREAT DESIGN and I like it. I believe your designers are working to their asses to create something beautiful, comfort, durable and better and cheaper and the same time but where is it? Still, congratulations with the new model Proton but I still disappointed with the design. It’s okay, you still have time to prove it! :D
After this proton will start on Perdana SV & might use cam tak pro for their SV model…. What a joke. Somebody should post this for Honda Japan CEOs to see what Honda has become !!
I guess Mazda, Toyota & Suzuki are the real jap cars now available …Honda just sank their boat in Boleh land !!! Pity honda owners even for the current gen…overall honda will become like Mitsubishi …crap metal rebadge worthless cars & crappy RSV moving forward …big mistake letting proton sink their badge into Honda…Checkmate for Honda !!
I am not out to bash Proton, but to rebadge an out dated Honda Accord and turn it into the official car for our PM is down right disgraceful. With state of the art facilities and resourceful man power, Proton could do better than that.
Proton cant even create their own model and have to re-badge from other companies for their flagship car. If they are not lazy, they would have created more nice looking cars and become more success like other car companies. I’m not saying they are did not create their own model of cars, but why do they need to re-badge it from honda if they can make it themself, make it more luxurious and with better specs. If other companies can do great cars, why cant proton do it? If they manage to do it, they will get bigger and better and many other countries will look up to us and in the end proton can even end up to be a company like toyota or honda. I always hoped to see proton create their own sports car or something like that to show the others that we can. The proton pm5 was a concept sports car announced back in 2007, and i thought they would create it but in the end, no more news about it. Come on proton, you can do it.
woi bodoh. benci betul aku baca komen orang tak membaca ni.
check balik cerita asal govt perak (at that time was PR) tukar camry ganti perdana. semua macai BN condemn kata tak patriotik. then, keluar cerita kos service perdana sampai beratus ribu (related to terengganu state govt) and outdated perdana. govt must do something, kena tukar kereta. kena pakai proton jugak, kalau tak kena kutuk ngan PR. nak tukar kereta d-segment, tak kan nak pakai saga b-segment, apa kelas. proton takde d-segment. eh, drb own honda jugak la. eh honda melaka pasang accord. ok, suruh drb mintak permission ngan honda untuk rebadge accord. suruh proton tukar logo, bumper, rim, chrome semua.
ok govt is now using proton car. what you gonna say PR?
that’s the whole story. d-segment was not in proton 5-years plan initially.
If Proton rebadge Honda NSX into Proton NSX, that would be fabulous.
Today the PM launched the SHAME of proton. Not only Proton resorted to re-badgeing a car, which is taking a 10-year step BACKWARD, worst of all, it re-badged an old model, not even the latest model. Double fail. Has Proton no shame at all?
What do all these commentors know about car production?
1. Economic scale – cost of r&d + production against price for profits.
2. If proton are to produce world class cars, due to their small volume of sales, the price would be double. So u people will have to buy vios at bm 320 price
3. Do you know that the trend now is sell the best way u can. General motors (the largest car producer in the world) sell chevy optra in malaysia. In europe its vauxhall, Nabira in Malaysia as zafira in europe. All these are rebadging. For info: optra comes from daewoo korea.
My only suggestion to Proton is to look east i.e Korea. How did they manage to penetrate USA n Europe.
Ala u all. Damn la. This car is not for u guys yet la @33 h0l3. This car for goverment use! Talk talk like shit talking like u wanna buy one, but still bashing.
Another cheebye that can’t read! The article said it will be for “the general market in next 2 years” which means they will sell an outdated accord to u but telling u it’s a new proton perdana!
you la cheebye tak reti baca. the perdana for mass public in 2015 only share platform with honda accord. upper body (exterior, interior, powertrain, design, etc) all are different.
for your information, the latest gen 9th accord used the carry-over platform from gen 8th. if later on, you want to bash proton use obsolete accord platform la.
what pirlo said, idiocy knows no boundaries
In Chinese, we call this …. Using others back side as your face …. Spend so much money in this poorly managed organisation to finally rebadge an old honda model. Why did hando associated itself with such cheapo corporation. Thank Dr M …. You have made us Malaysian proud …..
WELCOME NEW PROTON PERDANA, HOW MUCH ???
Honda just shot a hole in their boat. I will definitely switch to T for my next purchase.
On the other note, pity those having the actual model …. The second hand value will sure drop like mad …. Remember how Mitsubishi Lancer after the launch of Proton Inspira …. Another shame
Boss Sam & I were so busy and did not even to get a meal today after this news was out
K5 and Sonata owners were lining waiting to come into the yard to have their cars traded in, stating that they know that no one will want to drive a D-Segment kimchi now. Really pity these fellas
With a few owners no willing to sell their 12 month old K5 at around RM40k, we may consider taking them for the export market.
Sonata still fetches around RM60k+. So the Sonata owners were a lot happier to know this when they found out.
Uncle Sam is a real smart businessman, with a lot of foresight and knowledge of the auto industry
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Terima kasih Proton for making the experience of buying a car as a living hell for us, the commoners. TIDAK ku halal kan duit lebihan tu dunia akhirat!
Honda is smart and so is Proton. Abpnd now most of you readers thinking that im out of my mind. Le me tell you that i m a global market analyst by profession and an expatriate here in Malaysia.
Honda is smart because it has made a sweeeeet deal with Proton ti sell their left over shells, engine and technology. And Oroton is smart in the way that they can now sell their car by tellin people that underneith it is all Honda so please buy it and people will go for it as the price will be lower as compare to Honda :)
You got the point. We citizens here complain on the part of ‘National Building’ where proton praise gov & vice versa on something that’s bullshits. Proton say they are 1 of the leading player globally which produce cars that can compete with popular brands (go check our market share globally). Proton claimed they’re 1 of the global car manufactures which own & designed their engines which proves they’re technology competent (pls read all reviews on proton including the paid reviews and see reviewer give positive notes on Campro engines, the consistent praise come from Lotus’s Ride & Handling, which proton bought during economic clearance sales).
So these are mostly our fuss.
The body’s side profile looks awkward. The lines are just wrong.
NO matter what ? There’s really no pride and element of surprise in this new model of PERDANA compare with the 1st launching back in 1995.
In this automotive i