Probably the worst kept secret in the car world, the new Proton Perdana has been finally launched. Fittingly, the fourth-generation Perdana (as Proton calls it) was officially revealed by Perdana Menteri Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak at Putrajaya this morning.
The long wait is noted. “We are truly blessed that we have a large following and strong interest in the new Perdana long before the launch and we appreciate all the feedback we received. We know that Malaysians want us to do better and we cannot disappoint them. We took our time to ensure that the new Perdana is ready for the launch,” said Datuk Ahmad Fuaad Kenali, CEO of Proton.
The 2016 Perdana is based on the previous-generation Honda Accord, like the current Perdanas used by government officials. This one however, can be purchased by all Malaysians who have RM113,888, which will buy one the 2.0L Perdana. The 2.4L range topper is priced at RM138,888, both prices on-the-road including insurance.
Also different from the “government Accord” is the styling, which is obviously unique to the Proton. Measuring 5,020 mm long, 1,845 mm wide and 1,475 mm tall, with a wheelbase of 2,800 mm, the Perdana is a lot longer that the 4,849 mm Accord, which was already quite a big car.
For some context, the current-gen Accord is 4,870 mm long, while the Toyota Camry is 4,850 mm long. The Mazda 6, which is visually the largest among current Japanese D-segment sedans, is 4,865 mm long.
Should the Perdana’s sheer size not stand out enough, there’s that rear end. The sloping roof and fastback profile culminates in a tall behind that’s very busy, to say the least. Plenty of elements competing for attention here, but the two main teams are the lamp and chrome garnish combo (which is similar in style to the Vauxhall/Opel Insignia), and the diffuser panel, which is largely in body colour. Yes, even the exhaust tips (they’re not real) are in body colour. Possibly a world’s first.
The 2.4L comes with a bodykit and spoiler, two-tone rims and HID headlamps; exhaust tips non-functional
The red car you see here is the 2.4L, which comes standard with a bodykit and boot spoiler, HID headlamps and dual-tone 17-inch wheels. The latter, wrapped with 225/50 tyres, are in a single-tone for the 2.0L, which is the grey car here. The smaller-engined car comes with halogen projector headlamps, but LED daytime running lights are standard. Spec scanners might notice the 2.0L’s shorter overall length of 4,999 mm – the 21 mm difference is from the 2.4L’s bodykit.
The new Perdana will retain the i-VTEC engines and gearbox from the Honda it’s based on, which means the familiar R20 2.0 litre SOHC engine with 154 hp at 6,300 rpm and 189 Nm at 4,300 rpm; and the K24 2.4 litre DOHC unit with 178 hp at 6,500 rpm and 222 Nm of torque at 4,300 rpm. Both are paired with a five-speed automatic transmission, with steering paddle shifters for the 2.4L.
The “bones” of the Perdana are unchanged from the previous-gen Accord. Hydraulic power steering (before EPS became default), all round disc brakes (fronts are ventilated), front double-wishbone suspension and rear multi-links are under the skin.
The 2.4L comes with a beige interior; ESC, GPS, full leather seats and paddle shifters are exclusive to itWe come to equipment. Standard kit include part leather seats (leather on the door cards and steering), steering buttons for audio and cruise control, auto headlamps, front and rear parking sensors, dual-zone auto air con, rear AC vents, eight-way powered driver’s seat with power lumbar adjustment and the Proton Infotainment System.
The latter is a 6.2-inch touchscreen system with reverse camera, Bluetooth, USB and AUX connectivity, with jacks in the centre console. It’s connected to six speakers. The screen is located below the AC vents and controls, and is not the dash top item that was the only screen in the donor Accord. That top screen is retained – it shows a clock on the 2.0L and touchscreen navigation on the 2.4L.
Other items exclusive to the 2.4L are full leather seats, four-way powered front passenger seat, a subwoofer and the already mentioned paddle shifters and navigation. On the safety front, the Perdana comes with four airbags (dual front and side), ABS, EBD and Isofix child seat mounts, but electronic stability control (ESC) is only for the 2.4L.
If you’re attracted to the rev-loving K24 engine or the top line car’s longer list of kit, you will have to like/accept the mandatory beige theme for the spacious cabin, with wood trim. The 2.0L’s interior is all black with metallic trim. Speaking of colours, six exterior hues are available, and they are Ruby Red, Graphite Grey, Sterling Silver, Cotton White, Midnight Black and Citrine Gold.
Once again, the new Perdana starts from RM113,888 for the 2.0L and goes to RM138,888 for the 2.4L, OTR including insurance. Proton’s factory warranty for this Shah Alam-assembled Perdana (government Perdana was manufactured by Honda in Melaka) is five years or 150,000 km (whichever comes first).
Since the sedan’s order books opened in February, Proton has collected 900 orders for the Perdana. The carmaker is targeting sales of 3,000 units this year. So, what do you think of the “fourth-generation Perdana”? Check out and compare detailed specifications of the Proton Perdana 2.0L and 2.4L on CarBase.my.
GALLERY: Proton Perdana 2.4
GALLERY: Proton Perdana 2.0
In very near future, The 1.5 Turbo equipped in Civic will be re-badge as new Persona. Dumb ass P1
Rebadge is our culture
This is why Proton fail so badly. With this designs and price at $114k, people rather get new Honda Accord at discounted price $126k.
R.I.P
Big joke on pricing. RM114k OTR?
now Nissan Teana RM123k OTR and Honda Accord RM125 OTR.
The problem with buying Perdana is that RV drop like crazy
In 2 years time
Proton Perdana RM60k
Nissan Teana RM100k
Honda Accord RM100k
When you sell your car after 2 years, then you will start to cry when the bank ask you to top up the loan by RM30k
You will ask, “But two whole years ie 24 months what I have I been paying for?
Is it really true that a car costing RM114k has no ESP? I cannot believe this!!! OMG
Tbh, me and my wife have been eyeing on this perdana for quite some time. We have seen the testing car twice and really like the long and wide look. (It’s a D-segment, duhh!) We liked the design as well, especially the front part of the car!
But it is really a big let down after seeing the price and reading the launch report for the list of kits it offers. I understand that due to the chasis design of the old accord, Proton couldn’t fit in 6 airbags into the car. But they could have added some active safety features such as blind spot management, lane departure warning etc to compensate on that instead.
Excluding stability control out of the base 2.0 variant is really a shame. Other simple kits such as keyless entry and push start, hill assist, TPMS etc should never be neglected as well.
The specs are really disappointing, along with its price tag. I guess I will keep my money first for now.
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Perdana at RM60k after 2 years is an understatement. Maybe RM30k to RM40k.
10 year old Perdana already like RM5k
A lot of supports here by LIPS and FINGERS. No action will be taken.
After a year, 2015 stock will be sold at RM90k, and in 2018 Proton will ask for another RM2bil soft loan.
Camry 2013 below 100k, how?
Our Proton is 100 times better than any Jap car, even our own Honda car.
Beli Proton tanpa was was
As Kunta Kinte had pointed out. After 2 years, the Perdana RV will drop significantly as compared to Honda and Nissan. And they would cry when this happens.
People who bought car and planned to sell it back just after 2 years are either bad decision makers or outright incompetents.
Almost all people I know, would pay in full for their cars, or opted for 5 years or 9 years loan. And these people will only sell their cars only after those cars are not roadworthy anymore.
Kids nowadays, change cars like changing their fancy handphones.
Take money from Gov to rebadge outdated car is Proton’s culture
Proton is so ungrateful. Why never call Tun Mahathir? Even though he resigned, it is a matter of respect to call him. After all, he is Bapa Proton. He founded you guys. He made you guys happen. Because of Mahathir, Proton managed to live until today, otherwise, by year 2000 already bungkus.
Poor Mahathir, the man who supported you guys all the way. The man who gave you billions every year. Now just throw him into the tong sampah.
This is a fine example of how Proton will treat its customers. Kalau Tun Mahathir, the founding father also can kena buang, just imagine the customer?
When Steve Balmer was CEO and President of Microsoft, all launches he called the founder Bill Gates to officiate and bless the function. It is a matter of respect for our founding fathers.
Wahai Proton, you get some pretty girls to stand on stage, but your poor founder is crying in tears at home watching the launch on TV.
Don’t you all feel sad that your poor founder, Tun Mahathir is so sad at home? Already Petronas asked him to leave, then he had no choice but to leave his baby which is Proton.
Proton is really Tun Mahathir’s baby. He loves his baby so much. But the prodigal son now just throw mud on daddy’s face.
No invite also.
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aaaaand the difference between microsoft and proton is??
bill gates didn’t screw microsoft up
you’re welcome.
To beg money from government no choice. It is all about the money. If Proton really meant to help Malaysians they won’t price the outdated Accord like this.
You said something like this because Mahathir support opposition now.
We all know how proton bashers *cough cough* opposition *cough cough* thinking.
May be they cannot stand him anymore. Its like a divorced woman getting married again. Would she invite her ex?
well…live together..die alone ma…so what Tun founded them…Its Najib their saviour now…HAHAHAHA
Quite sad. Bulan Puasa also can be malicious and vindictive towards Tun.
Proton really had no say in this matter. You know who really is the boss. Well, Bill Gates is the absolute boss of Microsoft. He employs Steve Balmer.
Paul Tan has written a wonderful article on ESC/VSC. It is super important as it saves lives
In Europe, even the cheapest and lousiest car has VSC because EU regulations say VSC is legally compulsory. That is how important it is.
In Malaysia RM114k car got no VSC? OMG!
http://paultan.org/2012/06/27/esp-stability-control-is-a-must-malaysian-motorists-deserve-better-active-safety-in-their-cars/
In terms of safety features, Iriz, Suprima, Preve and Exora are more well-equipped.
I’ll rather chose new civic over this outdated engine & interior design.Shockingly proton chose to follow UMW greedy policy with super expensive price for this ‘nothing impressive’ features! To the new proton management,what i can say is may luck will give a little touch on your forehead to avoid bancrupcy in less than 5 years time.Seriously 113k for this? But no surprise in 3 months time easily proton will give 5k rebate,another 10k come year end as we all know what previous nature of business proton is..So by November 15k easily chop off,.. 98k for starting price is what i expected weeks earlier.
honda announced previously that this is first n last collaboration with proton. so no future rebadging from honda
…But rebadging from Renault
or citroen…
Maybe Tata or QQ also can. Anyway isn’t it proton trend to downgrade all the way to longkang?
P2 downgrades all the way to afterlife
Proton really don’t care about sales to the public. You buy or don’t buy, Proton is not bothered. this is because 90% of all Proton Perdana sales will go to the Government.
Now Government cannot be neutral and objective. Government has give RM1.5 billion loan in return for share swap option. This means, Government is now the majority owner of Proton.
So, Government will make sure Perdana sells well by buying up all the Perdanas for all the Ministries and Government departments.
But the sad thing is this, the Perdana got no VSC. Why do you even endanger your own Government Servants?
Dey! They are trying to reduce the gomen/civil head count by 1million lah.
Haha, ill see who die first.
take 1.5b grant and subsidies 2016 2.4 accord. Then sell to rakyat at 60k to 80k, already done! Why go around your dump head and loose out! in barulah plan 1Malaysia
It just looks like a blown up Persona. Poor creativity and design. Big Clumsy Potato.
I bet the same old Proton parts problem will be found there too, as proven for every model they make.
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I seriously think this is the better choice than the smaller new civic, just look at the wood grain center console, reminds me of Bentley…the best design came from proton all these years!!!! Civic buyers should reconsider and cancel their civic booking, it’s never too late.
I agree with u faiz…well said…
The wooden grain deco make the car look like apek car…yeah it can match jibby style
it was so freaking different than the one from FILEM KAPSUL.. love the chrome exaust and the tinted radio antenna. look sleek!
http://paultan.org/2015/09/16/2016-proton-perdana-revealed-in-filem-kapsul-clip/2016-proton-perdana-kapsul-1/
Bagus, you got the price before official announcement :D
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You can’t even afford an Axia
From axia to civic/perdana.. got jackpot ka???
Got soft loan from Gov.
nice move bro… good luck
OMG..Proton was digging their own grave…Bye bye …Such a crazy price.. i will choose 1.8 Civic against Perdana 2.0 with similar pricing, as i wont care C/D segment.
It just looks like a blown up Persona. Poor creativity. Big Clumsy Potato.
I bet the same old Proton parts problem will be found there too, as proven for every model they make.
Ok what number will win tomolo?
The car is outdated already. its ugly specially at the rear and also interior which is 100% old Honda. too much cut and paste looks. 900 orders? all proton and DRB directors will get it and offcourse government. the back of the car is very unbalanced it just does not suite the original design. I am sure these are input by the Kepong Kit car maker company. RM100K plus for an 8 year old design car???? pls wake up DRB.
Yeah. The rear bumper is so ugly. Looks messy. Why bother to put the Ah Beng twin tail pipe design which is not functioning? Tak faham.
Yup… will be sad when seat inside and see an outdated interior…. the 2.4L beige theme event worst looks old man…. just buy Civic with that kind of money…
oklaa.. tbh it’s a decent car for this segment at this price although I think it can be a bit lower maybe just around RM100K. but it can be better if proton fits it with 2.0 turbo engine straight away..
Perdana 2.0 or Civic 1.8………same price!
Civic 1.8, it has new gearbox, fresh design, and most importantly 6 airbag and VSC.
Ya. But hopefully no Vtec Kaboom case like in Thailand and USA. Peace bro.
No resale value .
Oh, my dream car. I’ll sell my house to buy this
Lightweight, I’m selling my kidney
Pfft. Both of you are weak. I’m selling my soul
Podahhh!! Soul?? As if u still have
Soul?? Your soul have no value…
I’ll sell nasi lemak (inspired by our Giant Hippo aka First Lady) to buy this car
rm114k no ESC. kek.
Can stop pretend to be Volvo of Asia.
You created the name, nobody said it before. Later you bashed pulak
Topkek
First… suweeetttt….
OMG!!!! I m speechless! RM138k for this???!!
Ugly and the price is ridiculous.
My Chevy Malibu better than this
With that price, good luck proton.
Nice looking car. Pricing will be a challenge for Proton however at this price bracket.
“Totally recognize interior and exterior” said former CEO Tun himself… Except the steering wheel the interior just look the SAME !!!
As commercial cars are downsizing their engines (i.e. using forced induction), I can’t help but feel this car’s engine is big a55…..
900 booking order??? Waa so impressive!!! Good Lucky Perdana Salesman.
My personal opinion, I’ll take Current Accord with 11K discount.
900 booking, 898 from government agencies, 2 from die hard Proton fans. And how would you trust Proton’s figure?
They said Iriz was selling so good last time, end up offer RM10k discount and beg for RM1.5bil.
Test drive demo car already 200 units, for 200 showrooms.
Rip
Honda Civic customers will Q for this magnificent Perdana instead.
Yeah queue to laugh at this junk
Laugh at turbocor Civic
Now we know Paultan has advantage to film the car earlier and kept it under wraps very well!
Don’t don’t chunk time.
Please, someone need to fire the designer in Proton.
Love it!
Too expensive. ..would rather buy new civic !
First!
the rear is a joke, where these designers graduated from?
Totally agreed. Someone overdid the design as the rear diffuser design is not in harmony with the Jaguar XF “inspired” boot design.
who else?? these are from Bufori the kit car company in Kepong. they did this. what you expect from a bunch of fiberglass makers who try to be like Bentley. I hope Jaguar sue them for this copy cat design.
Dude. The interior is from Bufori. The exterior is from another company. No hate.
You need to ask? If you don’t know, most probably from UiTM/MARA
113k and without EPS? OMG…
How big is the boot space? What about the estimated fuel consumption?
Good job for proton design department for give this outside HONDA accord a very good look(malaysian style).But design inside suck from this car.Hope full no more rattle sound inside car from the new owner.(like my self car proton persona inside rattle sound.) complain to proton servis center and they reply aiya this is proton mar what u expect from the price.(i won’t buy proton car anymore(this is my 1st car)
What took them so long to launch this when the parts replaced by Proton were quite visible and simple? The lower part of the rear bumper that houses those fake body colored exhaust tips is pretty badly done.
When Proton use bad parts, you shouted every where! Every car components need go thru test and before that the mould and jig need to be fabricated. You think all these can be done in 1 month?
What made you think they had only 1 month to do all these?
110k+ for a PROTON?
i thot april fool was 2 months ago?
sorry to say this, but the kit list aren’t impressive at all for a 138k+ car..the base teana is a better option.(dun care about engine capacity)
Sorry, no more Proton in my life.
Same with me bro. no more proton . if no buget better choice ” perdua “
That rear diffuser! It’s like the just gave up styling and just paint everything over
paultan, you had me at “the worst kept secret” :)
i would say ‘meh’ for this new perdana. don’t think worth for your money. better maintain with my current persona…
2.4 interior color is quite a pain to watch..ouch
those diffrusers are hideous. why dont they keep it simple and look stylish rather than look like a bad cheap hotwheels?
Probably designer input from their R3 division, Relaks, Rempit and Rokok dept.
Lazy worker you, commenting during office hours
No, R3 is Rubbish, Reused, Recycle for environment protection
Sure can sell!!…to Government…as normal la..
Hideous tone of beige with the wrong wood colour. Over priced local brand for a car that has no revolutionary technology other than carry over engines from Honda. Safety features are sub-par, with only 4 airbags and ESC is still not standard. Adding a colour touch screen in the dash doesn’t justify it to be a “lux” car. Adding that unnecessary length just to make it the longest, widest car in it’s class doesn’t justify it to be the “best” in class too. I could be really wrong, but that ridiculous length could result in poor handling( I just have to wait and test it myself) . Utterly disappointed with the car considering proton took ages to launch this car and with their so called “spy shots/camouflaged cars” caught all over the country which I bet was done purposeful as a publicity stunt. This car could have been launched right away the moment they modified the exterior in the factory. I was honestly looking forward for something more revolutionary from Proton after all that talk about not wantig to disappoint Malaysians.
To all proton fanboys..
BN John,Kancil Hybrid,TGDI,policeman,@*@*,ka, Ah Beng proton supporter..
Pls explain where is the TGDi “myth” engine??
Like my brader nkh said wait till ur cucu bonus kahwin?
WT… Why “fake exhaust tip”?
What’s worse is that it’s painted with the same body colour and there’s no cut out hole in that hideous fake and unnecessary exhaust tip…
better buy civic turbo.
Fake exhaust tips, in body colour?! Who the hell comes up with this idea?
Chrome exhaust tips will be sold separately as aftermarket accesories or comes together with turbo variants later in the future – both spells extra income for proton
Or also available at lower quality at your nearest Brother’s outlet….
rm100+K for proton???
Goodbye perdana…civic better buy with latest tech and more spec offered at almost same price range…i think a c segment civic will do for most malaysian buyers rather then this outdated over priced perdana..
Removal of the twin fake/body-colored exhaust tip may help to boost sale….
If you remove those the car might not achieve the top speed.
no esc on 2.0 spec that cost u 113k, that is a realy big shot at your own foot proton
i will go for civic
yo john, from 113.888 only get 4 airbags.. not feeling the luxury factor here…
shame the 2.0 doesn’t have stability control (ESC/VSC …) who has Proton been listening to? BTW, the car somehow already looks jaded and dated… with the faux body-coloured dual exhaust tips spoils the rear IMO…
good thing is hand brake..not foot brake and Folding seats. But still not sure whether this have MID meter. It seems only ODO & trip info only.
2.0 no ESC and 4 airbags only? the 40,000+ Iriz got more. So much for a company that is championing safety.
Err.. better keep it 4 Najib & gomen.
With this price tag I will go for civic 1.5t.
this is one of the best D segment car I have ever seen! Congrats PROTON!
This is one of the worst lie I ever heard from Proton supporter
Typical Proton fans: Talkok a lot no action!
No one even bother to buy the car, no wonder Proton need RM1.5 bil.
Proton supporters, where is your god damn action?
Talk is cheap!
You must be a big loser in life.
Fair price, I guess. Yes it’s a PROTON and its beyond 110k. But for the segment, fair game.
I still think the rear is busy, but I am liking the interior space at the rear.
The biggest plus point would probably be the Honda engines. Kind of strange opening up the hood of a PROTON so see the words “Honda” on the engine, but I guess that’s what the terms of the agreement spelled out. Its a proven mill, and should give you years of worry free and efficient running.
Good luck, PROTON.
good god, that body coloured exhaust is just hideous
I came here just to read the stupid anonymous comments only
why need to fake out the exhaust tip? LoL
RM138k can get Honda Civic 1.5 Premium with Modulo kit lol
Perdana D-segement..Civic C-Segement. No need to compare la bodoh.
i want, i want…
What a “suprise”. Proton could do better than this..
If you are above 60 years of age, you should probably disqualify yourself from the styling approval committee. Unless you are an Italian, who happens to own sports car company with long racing heritage, or a styling studio with clients from the world over.
Gosh that fake tailpipes…. and I thought that the Thai Civic RS and Merc C-Class fake tailpipes were bad…
Hmmm…. meh
Nothing to should about.
Would like to see how P2 with it’s sedan
P2 sedan front looks similar to Vw vento, try google it…
IMHO, they took the left over stocks from Honda accord (front and interior) and welded with back design from Proton then tried to sell in new car’s price.
Now i believe car industry also got auto Frankenstein.
Just my 2 cents
That price is unjustified if you ask me. The price is very similar to the new civic (although it is RM2k difference). Why is it so expensive? It looks very nice indeed, but I do believe that the price should not have exceed more than 120k for the high range.I believe that there is more local content, which should be lower. I am not too sure if the sales for this car is good or not. Maybe the high cost is due to the car is being delayed for too long, and the customer has to pay for the RM that proton has lost. We’ll just have to wait for the comparison with the Camry, Accord and the Teanna. All the best Proton.
its about cronies suppliers..period.
wrong pricing for a 5 year old tech piece of junk
Walawehhhh!!!! Syabas Proton!!! Gonna buy it soon!!!
I don’t think this car can sell, at least I don’t see any selling point for 113,888(let’s forget about138,888)
nice looking car..looks more handsome than the original, although the back is a bit fussy in terms of design.
this will steal a lot of buyers from the c-segment.
don’t be bothered with Proton’s reputation because at the end of the day it is still a Honda Ghost underneath.
Proton don’t realize the market they should be target..
for the 113K range, can get Tucson, HRV, Civic, etc although different segment, but buyers buy for function, technology now instead of segment, and liter
for 130K range, even 2.4L, but who cares I can get cx5, accord, sonata, all world wide selling cars instead of a katak shiok sendiri car.
That’s why i said those retarded strategy running the company..its about car function/purpose people buy for usage now, segment is meaningless..no technology and just size is not what consumer buying now..
Consumer will pay the same price with smaller car with technology that suits my living style
While Camry/Accord/Sonata already suffering in the similar range while consumer already shifting to SUV and smaller fuel economy consumption car..
super fugly! argh… is this how a D-segment car should look like???
i came here just to wait for same lorr to comment
The front is beautiful whilst the side is commendable. The rear…haiz. It’s like the designers were sent to detention and had too much time to spare. No esc for 2.0. Didn’t they read about the Camry story?
Exterior = ok la, looks garang/sporty enough
interior = how could someone actually made the last gen accord even worse?
At that prices, both models become very unattractive. Some more with 4 airbags max, and the specs & features are not that high for the self-proclaimed ‘luxury’ car. Mind you even the new Accord doesn’t price that much without tax & duties.
Plus, certain Honda dealers are offering RM 10k off on their 2.0 model Honda Accord. That closes the gap further. I find the price for this Perdana rather disappointing as RM90+k – RM110k should have been more appropriate price bracket.
nice back slope… looks like civic :P
for a pricing over RM100k, if size doesn’t matter there are many choice to cherry pick out there. the best part is there are plenty of heavy promotion going on.
good luck.
900 prebook order? not bad
for IRIZ launch they claimed 10,000 orders and until now they have not sold 10,000 iriz. these are all BS by their mismanagers.
Good car with Honda i-VTEC engine & 5 speed auto. For sure have good RV! No wrong with the sushi engine & transmision!
Stupid car with outdated engine and low safety kits. Better close shop la
RM138,888 ?? !! My goodness.
Proton’s closure is doing its’ final count down…
10,9,8,7,……….
Whoever is buying these cars are truly Sohai, Dai Lan Ngong….
Game changer is game over.
Tak suka jgn beli…yg comment lebih2 bukan nye mampu pun…hewhew..
Honestly, I like the design ‘improvement’ or whatever you call it. If it is not for the fact that this is an obsolete Honda, I will desire it. Stop rebadge-ing and start developing please
Not bad pricing …. plus discounts thrown in, should do okay. Probably revival for Proton …. let’s see their other Saga Persona replacement …. price it right, minimal margin to regain confidence.
All 3 cars will be killed by p2 coming sedan…
The spec is decent…
The looks is distintive….
Unique overall….
The price could have been better… by at least 10k.
Good pricing for the 2.0
No ESC is good…
No imported duties plus protected by NAP (National Automotive Policy) also need 100k+ plus meh?
First Gen Perdana only 85k + with V6 engine some more.
I wonder where the 110K+ come from?
no push start button for 2.4L model?
Sorry Proton but the interior is cringe worthy
Interior is from accord. So u r persoaling jepunis overlords
Disappointing. After all that hype and it comes in under specced. Not even ESC has been standardized. I have always wanted the underdog Proton to rise up and become a national pride but i think Proton is dead in the water. I would say at that money the New Honda Civic is a clear winner even though it is one class down. There goes RM1.5b in our tax money.
fastback design was it an original thought? or modified after new civic XD
what is with that small ‘vent’ behind the front wheels?
purely athestic? ^^
can’t wait to buy it next year from 2016 stock clearing for 70K!
budget constraint, will consider if they drop till 50k next 2 years when it comes to stock clearance. But wait, will this perdana still available in 2018? Let wait and see.
wow. 130k for a car with a 10 year old accord interior. good job!
like seriously proton?
i cant believe it when the car still uses switch blade key. at least give lah push start smart entry like iriz. pay premium but no new tech. u have the capability to equip the car with more tech. hill assist, 6 airbags, esc for 2.0L model.
better rebadge old accord without changing the exterior. waste money to do development testing. end up the car has the same tech as the old accord. shameful. interior also merely changed.
I hereby wish Proton all the best with the new Perdana. I know it won’t ‘save’ their declining sales/ market share, but it’s an important model nonetheless. The proof will be in the pudding. Test drive before you judge.
I personally find the RM139k price tag for the 2.4 very reasonable. But I cannot say I approve of Proton’s decision to omit ESC in the 2.0 model. Proton owes us an explanation as to why they backtracked on their promise of high safety. For a RM100k+ car, ESC should have been standard.
As to the ‘measly’ 4 airbags, I believe the original HMSB-assembled Accord had only 4 airbags as well, and although the LHD USA Accord CP had curtain (and knee ?) airbags, they likely used different modules/jigs/dies/moulds… which may not have been compatible/localised for ASEAN market Accords. Again, this is what I think… I could be wrong, and maybe Proton just wanted to cut costs or the new management doesn’t care about safety as a USP anymore. Again, Proton MUST explain why the omitted ESC on the 2.0 Perdana. 4 airbags I can accept, but the ESC I cannot.
Now, on to the new BH Persona. This is THE Proton we’re really waiting for.
At last.. a good comment from a wise guy.. the rest, not sure what are they looking for..
Just a big car, lack of technology feeling.
go and get new perdana guys. it is way cheaper than new accord
the go and get iriz
i agree that this car has No keyless entry & just 4 airbag! Iriz B-segment car is far better than this Perdana D-segment car! B-segment look luxurious, D-segment car luxury car look cheap!. And even preve turbo,exora cps and cfe and suprima s are better than this car. This car sucks all the time even though it is a d segment and good car.
camry-killer is here! Pay the price of a proton and enjoy the drive-ability of a Honda.
It’s the best of both worlds your money can get you.
I had hoped that Proton would’ve emphasized a lot more on safety, considering the donor Accord had stability control across the board plus it had options for more than 4 airbags.
Why the move backwards Proton? Even the Suprima has better safety kit.
The fake wood paneling is so painful to the eyes and the boot is not so well shaped inside, although that could be different once I see it in real life.
i agree that this car has No keyless entry & just 4 airbag! Iriz B-segment car is far better than this Perdana D-segment car! B-segment look luxurious, D-segment car luxury car look cheap!. And even preve turbo,exora cps and cfe and suprima s are better than this car.That is what i am trying to say. The real flagship cars of proton are exora bold mc2,preve cfe and suprima s not the all new perdana
facepalm car, facepalm safety…4 airbags at this price….civic so much better
Nice design overall. The lights are very nice and the overall coupe look follows current trend set by the industry’s big players.
The bottom part of the rear especially the diffuser section made it all look so messy. And what’s with the fake exhaust tips? I would remove the non-functional elements and make the design cleaner. Think Audi and Mercs.
Also in the pictures, I prefer that the 2.0 color combination for the interior. Is it that hard to offer the interior colors as options for both models? In the 2.4l model, the combination of the silver trim on the dash board doesn’t really go well with the wooden trim elsewhere. I could be wrong and it may look better in real life as compared to pictures.
A good effort and I hope it sells well.
With these pricing!? RIP Proton Perdana. 20k difference from the latest Gen9 Accord won’t make you more attractive.
U damn rite….. rm138,000 for a proton….???? My inspira really a bad buy… nobody look.. even someone call it preve or even worse wira
So..the new civic 1.8 or perdana 2.0
Civic 1.5 turbo premium
Civic 1.8
confirm. Honda Civic lbh laris. sbb saiz bkn keutamaan pembeli di Malaysia. harga sama dah
No push start button??????
The chrome garnish combo was first available not on insignia, nor toyota vios neither a Jaguar.
But try have a look at Chevrolet aveo sedan, some 11years ago.
I think this is one of the earliest
much better than civic turbo
Another government use car…….
Sure nobody will buy……
30 years down the road and they make this..dont seem impressed somehow..there is nothing in me would think of wanting this car..
those who keep on complaining that perdana cant satisfy then go and buy iriz mt
The looks is so aged by today’s standards. Might appeal if we were still in 2008.. oh wait..that’s when this model was introduced.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, look at the pricing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe a SANE PEOPLE will buy Honda Civic with all standard safety features, 6 airbags than this one!!!
Currently at the moment the Proton Perdana is being launch, a car promised by Proton to be a game changer (like their last new car the Iriz….which didnt really live up to expectation). So here we have a car , based on the previous gen Honda Accord, that is bigger than all the other Foreign D-segment car, priced like the cheaper C-segment car, and from the front, looks rather attractive…..
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Honestly, is getting very tiring, I can go on critisizing this car in so many aspect, its design, its quality, the specs, the fact that we have to fork out RM 25K EXTRA FOR THE 2.4l TO GET ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL!!!…. but none of that matters. Because in the end I have to admit, is a okay car, not ground-breaking like the new Civic, just a okay car. But rather, is coming from a company I just cannot, for my own morals, support anymore…. Proton.
You see is very hard now to support a company that started of being a national project, you cant compare this to the usual crop of car makers like Volkswagen, Honda or Ford, but its more similar to more nationalized companies or institution, like US railroad companies. The government has, indirectly, absolute control over it, by means of suppliers company or shareholders, and its even more apperent in the latest case of the government injecting RM1.5Billion into its banks. So why than is it sad?
Its sad because Proton has been here for 30+ years, and is been a national liability instead of a asset it once believed to be. Tun M, who started the project, promise that a national car would help keep money circulating around the country rather than leaking out, but the fact of the matter is, it is leaking cash day by day, as supplies outstrip demand at the moment at Proton. They are launching more cars they can sell, and DRB recorded a loss last year because of keeping Proton afloat. Perodua and even Honda(whoes products have a higher average price than Proton)
are outselling proton for months, years in the case of Perodua. Sure Perodua is basically rebadging Toyotas, which technically dosen’t make it ‘national’ as per the words of the Tun, and there is the problem.
Proton dosen’t sell products, it sell pride; even in todays launch of the Perdana where our dearest leader was present along with some political big wigs, they cant stop reminding us how proud we are to have a national car, weather be it the national car is any good or not. They also kept thanking the government for their gracious grant on RM1.5billion, one of many loans that has been channeledl into the sinking company over its existence. They remind us that thier car are source from local content, from local talents and made by locals… but dear Proton, this is a car company, not a school project.
Globalization has kicked in and car industry is becoming more competitive. There is no time to pride yourself that your company is Malaysian, is time you pride in making a product that is actually ground breaking, of which this Perdana is not. We live in an era where the most American car is actually Japanese, where Korean cars are design by a German, and where American branded car are made across the wall in Mexico. Detroit has failed, and Stuttguard has moved to ShenYang. You can be as Malaysian you want but you won’t win even Malaysian by just being Malaysian and that brings us to another problem, sales.
Proton at the moment only export cars to a limited market, and depends solely on the Malaysian for profit. Something like 85% of sales are local, and no sane comapany will depend on a market with an average income RM1500/month of a population of 7.8 million, add to that, with the second highest car ownership cost in the world. Korean in the 80s and the Japanese in the 70s were already look to export for a bigger source of income, and these companies had barely had 20 years of auto manufecturing experience than. Proton pulled out of the majority of the export during the 00s because they couldn’t compete, and they couldn’t compete because they were to focus on looking for local source of talent and supplies.
Is a sad case Proton, as a Malaysian auto enthusiast, I really wanted them to not only survive, but to win. You cannot be proud of Proton simply because is Malaysian, that would be like Japanese being proud of Midway or Germany, with Stalingrad. Is a product of prideful failure, and for that reason until the change, I really cannot support them…. and they won’t change, there are so many political chained to Proton that they can’t escape this fate. The Perdana is a okay car, but not ground breaking. ANd I wish all of them the best.
Long time no see, AVH. Holla
Proton, or any company, can never develop without the right people.
Last time with DSZ, people can feel the passion, the charisma he had for Proton, reflected in his action and whatever Proton did. It’s enough to instill confidence in people.
Now it’s just a bunch of clown cronies, too arrogant to face the real truth why Proton is in decline. Problem? Nvm, just beg bailout from govt.
Even in this launch, so fancy do at PICC, even got celebrities. Proton this critical still got budget to spend unnecessarily like this?
Doesn’t need fortune teller to see Proton will continue to decline.
Next, Persona, or rather entire proton fleet will tapaued by Axia sedan.
Ja, long time, need to distance myself from the comment section, not good for mental health.
Truth be told, I wanted the Perdana to have the same impact as what the Preve and Iriz did, something remarkable nevermind the Honda origin. The Proton concepts Iriz Active and Proton Pick up led me to believe that Proton is heading to the right track…. but the Perdana is a dissapointment, lacking even features its smaller stable-mate has. Launch at the time when the Civic, nevermind the size difference, is a vastly superior car for the money. And in a time when people are pouring cash for something with a little height, it seems unfitting, even after years of abscence, to launch a flagship that dosen’t even have flagship specs…. dissapointing.
Proton can never fail, even the day when public stop buying it, they will find ways to keep sales alive, throu Taxi or government cars or what not. Proton is tied to the government, and that is the reason they will never shut down, nor will they progress. A open wound never to be healed.
That’s why Malaysia will never progress with Proton around
Just have fun trolling from time to time lor :))) This is internet, no need to be serious.
Due to that relationship u said, people will forever see Proton from political lens. That’s why it’s mute to say “this is car blog, not politic”, but the fact is politics creep in Proton.
Then some say “Honda/Toyota/Perodua/German Proton also got XXX YYY ZZZ issues, why never bash?” Duh, cuz none of them beg taxpayers’ money. If they screw up, people punish by not buying them, then laugh at their desperation (give free sweets, petrol, car wash, lel).
That said, I share your sentiment of why Proton can never truly fail, but for Proton to succeed, it starts with the right people.
This Perdana is Dead On Arrival. The 2.0L could just stand a chance had it come with VSC, and <RM100k price tag, which I think is possible during year end stock clearance. But their penny wise, pound foolish decision to skimp on VSC completely destroys its appeal. How unfortunate.
This is 2016, where buyers are spoilt for choices should they are buying a new car. This car has no push start, which has become standard for most new cars. Even their smaller Iriz has it. Also, look at the steering wheel. Proton still mould the logo on the steering wheel instead of sticking a proper badge. THIS IS YOUR FLAGSHIP MODEL for god sake. And why are they still using the old logo on the steering wheel while the exterior has new logo? Why Proton why? Still confused which logo to use? Is that a knob to adjust screen brightness on the head unit? Who on earth adjust their screen brightness so frequently that they need direct access to it. I also notice you guys discarded the rear sunshade found on the donor car, thus leaving a blank button next to the gear knob. Cover it up! Oh, that rear bumper. Everyone knows that those exhaust tips are fake. But why on earth are you painting it using the body colour? Come on Proton.
I’m not a Proton hater, but if Proton are serious about their product, they should come out with a better product. I know they can do it. They have all the facilities, talents, and loans. I went to their CoE in Shah Alam during their open day and took a tour at their factory, and I know they can do MUCH better than what they are now.
The rear bumper is a disaster
I still think a new Perdana in their current state is a bad idea. They should focus on the lower end of the market need to keep in black. C and B segment market can sell in mass, but not this Perdana.
Dude… thats why they rebadge… not build it from from scratch… but…. still the price really insane
The idea of a Perdana replacement had been around since DSZ era. Even when DRB took over still no signs of Perdana replacement being served on the plate. Perhaps they still had a good sense in business back then. But when Tun stepped in as the captain of the ship that’s when the ball started rolling despite Proton’s financial health is deteriorating badly. Any sane company with good business sense would rather focus on the mass market i.e. B & C segments but Tun’s unorthodox approach to save Proton’s failing state by reviving the Perdana nameplate is beyond my comprehension. It seems like more about saving one’s pride & ego rather than raking up sales & profit. An old man’s dying wish perhaps?
Safety shouldnt be an “option” anymore.
Consumers shouldnt have to choose between safer vs cheaper.
Steering also no chrome badge ah? very kedekut one. hey this is luxury car segment lah! wake up! ESC also missing for 2.0? speechless!
I would not pay that kind of money for a Proton, period.
what’s up with the colour coded fake exahust outlets?
Decent car. Spacious. Old technology, no doubt, but it can chug along for the next 10 years without fuss.
What Proton should do is to offer lots of options at reasonable cost, so that buyers can at least “upgrade”..
I own the 2.4 8th generation Accord that this perdana based on. Hope proton solve the problem for this model.If not good luck for to future owner.I guess the future owner need to read all the problem that plague this model in the internet. Its a very reliable car honestly and really stable at high speed . The K24 engine are very sweet to rev although lack early punch . Inside , the interior are worst compare to the original accord , proton need to change this ASAP or in the next facelift. From the exterior , there had done a lot if work . Good job proton. The price i think is on the high side and at this segment , people willing to fork more to get a quality car as there are so many options to choose from . I am okay if they cap to RM 110k for the 2.4 and 90k for 2.0.
Yeah.. u were right about honda’s engine.. the model that it based got common problem i.e screeching sound during hard breaking.. funny smell when accelarate…
change interior for the next facelift??nahhh I don’t think so..’facelift’ term for Malaysia car manufacture is replace bodykit, put a door visor, make a 2 tone color and the price still bullshit…
Worst than durian kahwin… exterior & interior OUT … NO SENSE at all
No Push Start, No keyless entry, 4 airbags only !!!!! No Hill Assist, looks like potong added more weight to the car, it’s close to 2 tons, with the same previous Honda 2.4 engine … What the hell were they thinking!!! So call bodykit but never mention anything about aerodynamics of the car or the fuel consumption…. Five speed gearbox old Honda … That also wann peddle shifts meh !! No Apple car play, small navigation screen on top & 150k mileage warranty… Potong keep saying all use Honda vendor so no quality issue, so why never offer 5 years unlimited mileage…. All this missing and selling at Rm 139k…… Close shop potong… 2 years R&D to come up with a larger turd car …. Big time fail… 990 bookings… Looks more lik 989 orders from Gomen & one lost rakyat whom booked that also sure cancel asked back refund !!! Rm 139k now can get you latest gen Honda Accord vti-l specs as Honda giving up to rm13k discount, way better tech, safety & fuel consumption plus 5 years unlimited mileage warranty from Honda. Close shop potong !!
Dude..its the same engine
Regardless of whether this Perdana is a D-segment car, and the new Civic is a C-segment car; Malaysians deserve to a comparo between the two cars. For the reason that they are under the same price segment. It is value that we hold dear to due to expensive tax we pay to the government as “national service”
Agree with you. What matters to me is what I want and what I get for the amount of money I paid. I don’t care about them segment..
I will rather buy this Perdanaccord,rather than new civic. With this car, i can always memorize our Tun M in heart.
Any beautiful car, when stick proton emblem on it, will look ugly.
should rid emblem black background.
the lower part of the back bumper is overcrowded…!
Seems like very basic car with high selling price.
What is the selling point here?
Not bad looking. Price should be 15% lower. At That level the Perdana will be a good buy. If not the new civic turbo or the Teana 2.0 would kill this new Perdana.
after looking the interior immediately found the proton badge on steering is super damn ugly.
Buy the lower spec perdana 2.0 and change the engine to K20A engine type r Wah la you got yourself a Perdana Type R!
After a very long wait, what I can’t accept is the sheer amount of “cheapness” that are so apparent with the car’s interior:
1. No emblem on the steering wheel. Looks very bland with not much buttons and options.
2. Grey LCD head unit looks terribly plasticky like an aftermarket unit. Doesn’t look nicely integrated with the lower dash.
3. Only half-leather trim for 2.0?
4. Matte silver painted plastic for interior door handle (instead of chrome or perhaps solid aluminium like the Polo/Vento).
5. Glossy piano black garnish is a No-No for a D-segment car’s dashboard trim.
6. World’s first body colored fake exhaust tip.. LoL
Nearly 2 years ago, they promised that they were going to overhauled the interior. Something that equals to what Lexus or Infiniti is offering. Today, its the same decade-old look. Its quite shameful for Proton, really..
Give Proton a chance here.
I mean its a nice car, but y the hell did we go with the wood panels???? sighh
Proton fanboys coming in 3…2…1….
Nice Car.. Going to cancel my honda civic..
One wonders if this Proton Accord is gonna be competitive. Honestly, you cant get any D seg cars at this RM 113K? And don’t compare to the Civic la, its not even comparing the same thing. Dun get me wrong, I’m no Plotong supporter, had a wira and that’s the last proton i had.
Pro:
Styling not bad (subjective)
Pricing – D-seg car with a C-seg pricetag
Engine – proven Honda tech
At 5,020mm – it’s big. Cheap & big
Cons:
fugly steering , tailpipes and interior
built quality – no confidence
No modern accessories – push start, etc,
It’s a proton.
Sure power window problem lagi.
life time warranty for power window
The base model without esc
Overpriced junk garbage!
Eh?? Where’s my friend Dr M ?? Didn’t attend his own party all because of Jibby is it :)
No push start button. Seriously, Proton? This can be considered an essential item.
Expensive la
If compare to civic, sure choose civic regardless 1.8 or 1.5turbo is better than 2.0 and 2.4 lo……
No worth , somemore and the facelifted accord is coming soon though
wow..people comparing this perdana with civic..what a compliment to proton..
LOL…of course la they will compare because the price is freaking same. even though 1 is proven garbage and another has the power to dream.
BTW(I’m a proton owner) driving quality zero.
the new perdana launched is another selling point for Hxnda to push their new civic though civic and perdana are different segment. Civic in fact has spacious cabin, so perdana though is bigger car but may not gain advantage over this factor.
Other than size, almost all others factors are non-comparable but the price are so close. Interior of perdana is year 2008 accord, which pretty outdated. And is perdana consider national car since 50% or higher are derived from accord.
thats means CPS CFE aka campro is rubbish..because the top model of proton don want to use it.. we toyota also dont want potong use our camry engine…kasih rosak muka company saja
Not even a proper emblem on the steering wheel
Proton cars needs more cleaner surfaces, strong characters, solid looks and of course be more individualistic than other automotives brands. It’s better to redesign the frontal bumper especially to avoid the plastic looks around the fog lamps and remove the rear fake twin exhausts.
too much going on at the back, no finesse
the horse power of K24 Proton (178 HP) is lower than K24 Honda (190 HP), but the torque is equal, a lot of different. why?
113K and no ESC, not good considering there are under 100K cars with ESC. Yes, yes. I know they’re different segments, but it craps on Proton’s whole movement to 5 Star cars. Rear bottom looks messed up, they cherry-on-topped that with painting the diffuser in body color. Bad enough that it’s non functional, they’re practically rubbing it in our faces how pointless those diffusers are. Also 4 months in and only 900 orders. For a much hyped car, those numbers do not look good. Maybe the government sales will save them, but I wont hold my breath.
Invest (buy) in Honda instead.
They provide the best 3s service centre. In the long run u won’t regret even if u have to pay a little bit more for Honda.
Proton, most of the service centre are normal bengkels. Don’t ask about the customer service.
Btw…i drive a Honda.
The first look at the picture and straight away i see something that appears weird to my unprofessional eye- mismatch between chassis & coach(body). It looks like they put a huge body on a small(persona). this leaves a large overhang on the rear and the rear wheel located at awkward of C pillar.
then again , maybe my eyes playing tricks.
Here comes all the p1 haters who hate it for the sake of hating it, thinking they sound intelligent and cool cos they hate it! Clap clap welcome the P1 Keyboard Warriors!
I have 130k to burn, let me go get myself LATEST gen Honda A 2.0…. Oh wait.. Silly me! I should buy this Perdana (last gen Accord) and enjoy the wonderful experience I’m going to have with Proton SC….
4 airbags & no esc in 2.0 would rate it a 2 star safety ratings from Asian NCAP …. How come never published safety ratings ?? Making the car bigger & longer would have seriously affected the body rigidity & safety structure of the chassis….. No curtain airbags for so call longest car in d-segment….Might have only gotten 1 star from Asia NCAP
Why Xtrail 2 air bags can get 5 star?
For me, Proton car are not worthy if it is more than 50k… but 113k yet no standard push start… well, this is proton, nth to weird about =)
Sorry to say, Proton prospect from bad to worse.
If you had stop innovating better stop your production and close the curtain.
Thanks proton put a lot of effort on our national D segment car – new perdana.
But the price still very high and if the start price can put below RM 100k, then will be more attractive to buyers.
Now our car market is very challenging,
Only winner will be survive and loser will be close factory.
So if proton want to fight with non-national car, then the price must be more & more cheaper & attractive than others and quality must be improve and accessories must be add on (VSC, 6 airbags, ABS, LCD screen with reverse cam, push start engine).
Rm114k with no esc??come on laa..how come a car with that price tag didn’t come with an esc..thought that this car is an executive car..ridiculous
Proton, our marketing and research team still from the kampong. The car market are changing to high tech and high safety now. With this type of product, it will be dificult to survive not to mention sale to oversea, domestic market will also a big problem. Big is not mean good and you cn see why some small cars can sell so good. High tech and safety as big priority. Cosmetic kit no longer a selling point anymore. Look at continental, Japanese and Korean cars.
Hai. Do not know how to said. Continue like this, u a out of the business
OMFG, what’s with the rear colored fake exhaust tailpipes???? Also the 2.4 model interior color sucks big time and it comes with wood as standard…good luck selling it to the youngsters let alone uncles with stylish taste and don’t get me started on the 4 airbags and no standard VSC on a car with that asking price. Sorry to say but the base Civic although a segment smaller completely destroy this Accordana.
RIP Proton.
can we just stop this nonsense? can u just close shop proton?
Not even Lotus Handling,at least?
There goes the RM1.5b into the drain … sad
seriously proton… they’re using rakyat’s money to live in their own fantasy… using other ppl’s old tech and claim it’s their own asset and brag it’s a game changer, wow that’s the first in the world!
later the CEO tell the Malaysian this car is in par with Mercedes,BMW,Jaguar….hahahaha
With car priced like this and a “luxury” class, they can’t even put a proper exhaust tip. Just some fake plastic on the rear. How it this ‘on trend’.
They still don’t listen, turn around their heads first if they want to trun the company around…
Rubbish pricing for a Malaysian car..
And no ESC for the lower spec? Are you serious??? For a D-segment car, that’s unacceptable!
Call all the ah beng shop, please come with a proper cover design for the stupid dummy exhaust tip..i bet you can make money by selling that cover..
what a messy design!
modulo or mugen bodykit coming soon…haha
The Proton Perdana’s tagline should be “So wrong on so many levels”
I applaud the desire to replace the old perdana after 20 odd years and to replace it with another ‘rebadge’ sounds very fitting BUT sad to say, it looks to be the beginning of a very sad story and a very bad decision.
Its ok la, can always apply for another soft loan…no big deal.
forget this old junk technology.. 2.0 didn’t have ESC/VSC..
with that pricing, better buy Civic with 6 airbags & ESC/VSC..(same pricing with Civic OTR)
2.0 variant no ESC??? come on la…where other countries have made it a compulsory to have TRC, ESP, ESC and macam macam, yet you can’t even provide it as a standard feature across your fleet. 2.4l sudah ada esc then y limit 2.0l further?price is a joke also.being a badge engineered brand, the least ensure the price is on par with the previous Perdana la. After all, previous Perdana has been discontinued for so long.takkan lah the 2 additional pieces of glass in the rear cost so much?
Geram nye…P1 alang alang punya. We had E01 engine that performed almost as good as the formidable K20A (not K20Z, mind u), yet u declined. ya ya, banyak cabaran n halangan yg rakyat tak tau atau takkan faham. but one thing for sure, P1 won’t understand the people’s requirement. they must thought rakyat are just simpletons who will just buy anything that they designed n sell. The design team must have graduated from the land of copycats.
that rear bumper! somebody turned in a last minute assignment.
to all negatif comments what car you all drive , if just drive myvi or vios don’t talk like a shit , pls comment nicely la , if don’t like proton , salesman honda , vw , renault , perodua waiting for you
My perdana V6 is still the best in world .
Can smoke Gtr and M5 in everywhere . thank you proton to my life . proud of nation of proton.
Yes, even the exhaust tips (they’re not real) are in body colour. Possibly a world’s first.
Errrr…..no comment….fake is fake…real is real…doesn’t matter got colour or not…still chrome is best
Only stupid will buy this…trust me!!!
There’s a saying that goes, When the going gets tough, the tough get going.
I’ll say, when the hired gets tired, then the tired should get fired. Fire off management n in with better team.
Iriz, Vios, City, Jazz all sub 100k got traction control. New Accordana 2.0 114k no esc?
not making senses at all.
…from all the specs and pricing, it could be a great alternative for someone who wants a decent car below RM-150K….but in terms of features, i think Preve and Iriz are more equipped with latest techy stuffs.!
Not a fan of Proton but if the proton emblem was removed and change to honda, toyota, mazda, Peugeot, or other foreign car logo, people will sure says wow!! Beautiful!! Elegant!! Great etc..but when people just see the proton logo they will start cursing, scolding, condoming etc….Not only cars, daily products also, when people sees made in china, malaysia, indonesia, Thailand etc people sure start condeming and cursing even that is a good product…But after seeing made in usa, france, Japan, korea etc they will praise all the time even the product is substandard or faulty…lol
c’mon~ the dashboard looks very 90’s!!! still using key!? not keyless???what’s up with the beige? c’mon man Proton, u r better than this
virtually is same price as a Tesla 3 price…USD30k..
where world wide booking is crazy..
they cant conned rakyat anymore..
It just makes the new Civic and Mazda 3 looks so damn attractive. Thank you Proton for selling at this price! It’s faster for your death and tomb entrance. No worries we’ll buy flowers for your funeral.
ok, it is a good car. but what’s more important are the 3 ladies on the first photo. come on paul tan. we all want the close up photo of the model
I’m in a stage that I will not buy a Proton unless it’s very very cheap. Is that cheap?
No VSC/ESP, no 5 star aseanncap i guess…better to get civic at that price…
I can see lots of stupid commenter in here. Keep it up guys, if you don’t like stop talking bullshit or else nor relate with other issues. This is Malaysian mindset, keep bashing..bashing..bashing..how so stupid.
Agreed with what you have commented.
I don’t see any reason of why you guys should blame Proton because it has no push-start button nor ESC on this accordana, in fact we should be proud for the braveness of Proton with their bold strategy selling a 2008 car in the year 2016!
Memang dah jadi lumrah di Malaysia sahaja. Hasad dengki, cemburu, ngumpat, kutuk, kondem, hentam, hempas, pijak, sepak, terajang, tampar, lempang dan paling lejen skali lepas tu datang showroom minta diskaun.
last time Honda Accord sells for 140k without ESP you say nothing?
Toyota Camry came without SSB you say nothing?
Guess you must be the moron whom pre book the car ….. Why cannot get back your deposit ahh, this is Malaysia, freedom of speech, where everybody can voice their opinions good or bad as long nothing abOut Gomen :), in this case its proton which is all bad coz it’s proton, not surprise it did not close shop decades ago but Gomen is always helping proton, so Lucky them. Quick go pre book the new persona now, so later can get back your deposit ;p
bodoh lu simpan sikit bro..buat anak cucu cicit lu.
Aside from the gomen, I am not sure if individual sales are enough. Here are some problems/benefits with the new model.
1. Proton will always get criticized for the price. This is outside proton’s control. There are too many choices at that price. Only people genuinely wanting to buy the new Perdana will buy it.
2. What is with the fake exhaust tips? I think better remove it as it serves no function but showing to everyone that the car has fake tips.
3. The only reason why people will want to buy this is because of the space. Aside from that, if you are looking for features, there is the civic. The Cerato has more features in a slightly smaller car. Even then, I doubt people are keen in a 5m long car. Apple Carplay/Android Auto not available here.
4. At least it does not cost a lot to develop because it is basically a Honda Accord.
New Perdana are definitely clone from model Honda Accord Spirior,which is separeted market for Europe and China.There was only edit design at body trim line from Accord model 2010,facelift similir Accord perdana last 2 years and tail lamp and concept are clone from Opel Insignia.No concept and dominan for Proton just copy other car manufacturing. in term on price are not mesra rakyat, transmission system are outdated (5 speed).The interior dashboard and other features not modern, door trim common like 20 year old car, still using not own engine Proton(still using R20 and K24 engine)10-13 year old model engine, rear bumper very crowded and not porpotion,Proton supposed using own design,creation and innovation. Copy n paste are not relevant.
THE POWER TO DUPLICATE – PROTON.
As expected, all the keyboard warriors. I know lah, the only chun car out there is the car that you like la. Yes la the world revolves around your tastes la. Aiyoyo.
THE POWER TO DISAPPOINT – PROTON
For God’s sake, with this price tag Most of the people will definitely choose civic 1.5P over this
I bet all the people who complain here are the same people who complain about their jobs, their family, their whatever, non-stop, because complaining makes them feel superior. Keyword is “feel”.
shame! is this the best proton can do?
this car will be hard to sell especially with the crazy price! and no more proton for me!
1930kg for 2.0 very heavy car
accord more light weight then this new perdana
they copy key fob from honda
i nthink would buy civic then this perdana
because road tax also cheap and got more facilities then the perdana
Another FAIL Product from PROTON. OMG, The Steering Wheel and The Speedometer. OLD PRODUCT. Does not look Luxury at all
That exhaust tip detailing worse than Hot-wheels
@Yoyoma – Super agree with you.
To the haters, Why do you guys even bother bashing this car/carmaker? For the love of it? Expectation? Being indifferent is much more cruel no? PR Wise, Do you guys even own one before bashing it? For gods sake almost nobody have even test drove this car yet.
Honda Toyota fans will always be fans, cant change this. No matter what car comes out, the default answer is always these two brands. Why? Because their marketing and branding already affected your purchasing behavior.
Pricing – Hey, its a PERDANA. Its not supposed to be very affordable. There’s also value perception – will you buy it if it costs RM50k? People will assume that it will be low quality right.
ESC is only for the 2.4L, what the heck.. my sisters honda jazz got esc, come on la
fake exhaust tip,not too many surprise elements as compared to other segment-d rivals n too pricey..nahh..baik bli honda cub c70..
ESC is only for the 2.4L, what the heck..
Honda toyota fan always like that, like a shit , buy stupid vios dugong & box city they’re think like drive half million car , poodah
At this price, i may consider buying if they throw in a free gift proton saga
Rather than pouring1.5 billions to its vendors better poton gave 20 k rebates on its perdana model… reduce the price then only can sell like goreng pisang pasang. If u said the cureent price need to cover its RnD cost. Yup RnD cause a lot of money… Thats why poton need 1.5 billion bailout… If perdana fail to revive poton sales then whats going to happen to rakyat 1.5 billion already use to tongkat poton… Come on this is a 30 years old company. Looks at the company previous track record, the unpopular models (tiara, juara, savy) the unprofitable lotus investment, the £1 mv agusta saga, the unexplainable debt poton on its vendors that needs gov bailout. And most of all the excessive amount of money the rakyat have to pay because poton made cars in malaysia so expensive. So poton need to improve its sales dramatically in 5 years or better gulung tikar for the sake of the rakyat
113k for Perdana vs recent launch Honda Civic 114k. No need to mention who is the winner for this. Very obvious.
If i choose the Perdana, my friends sure will laugh at me all year long!!!
True also, looking at all the negative comments here, EVEN IF I personally like the Perdana myself, I couldn’t stand and handle the criticism by others. I go where also let people laugh.
If like this, how to fetch and drive girlfriend around? Malu die me
Are we back to the future? Come on Proton,no start and stop button,electronic brake and CVT. How can selling with the price like that.
The front still look like Accord! If you park the previous gen Honda Accord and Proton Perdana and remove the emblem maybe no one can tell the difference. and still hydraulic PS? Korean and even Chinese car have moved to EPS.
Local car also need 110K and above?
With the aid of National Automotive Policy (NAP),
Excise duty/import tax imposed on non-local cars but still want to price like a non-local car?
Plus, if I’m not mistaken, since it is not built from a scratch, they would have probably save a lot of cost in designing the car and R&D, since engine also 100% Honda. I wonder where the cost of 110K come from.
U knew but still ask.. the engine is not free leh.. still need to pay to honda ma..
Cost 10k
A big disgrace. They got huge resource and gov support but sadly it is only another expected-to-be a failed project as usual. Another rhetoric remrak by najib to continue robbing us in the name of transformation for now and in the name of saving our country face upon planned failure (pretty soon).
Incompetency is the key to continue the robbery.
Let’s take a break for other topic. Look at those gorgeous model, very Malaysian, next Proton launch should hired women with tutup aurat. Salam..
The Proton said they will use NE01 engine on Perdana by 4th quarter of 2017 therefore I will not buy this Perdana and to wait and see first.
If I lost my patience of waiting then I will rather pay a little bit more to go for current Accord or Camry or Teana.
Hope the nightmare of previous Perdana’s gearbox problem will be repeated in this new Perdana.
CIANNNNTEK
Rebadging is fine but of course do it well la.
Your bumper is hideous, plus the body kit alone will weigh the car down. Your safety measures are really bad comparing with the price you are offering.
I suppose you could have come up with a 2.0 Honda based engine with minimum styling but maximum safety,
Lane departure, ESC, more than 4 airbags and more features. Bring down the pricing to below 100K would have been good.
Rather than blowing the car to look like a joke you could have made is more value to money with simple enhancements of safety and luxury within a competitive price ! Seriously Malaysians would have gone after it.
Overall another disappointment from Proton. If you are saying you have orders, fine i agree you would surely have but how long will the orders continue to come in ?
Make a car for long term strategic sales plan not short term. Its just sad to be called a national car. With all the R&D please please please build your very own engine which is fuel efficient and also worthy to be used by other manufactures.
Ps : stop saying you have a new south american market, please target the European and american market. If you can make it there then you can make it anywhere.
by considering money than model segment, with close range can get civic 1.5 turbo than larger 2.4L perdana which have more expensive road tax to pay..
I owned few protons before, and only up to the Wira model was acceptably great for its value. Ever since the start of Campro, it’s displayed a bad image to many owners.
Not only that, after sales service has yet to be improved!
Before coming up with pricing and what you think is needed in a car, Proton as the pioneer In this country should already understand market needs, what people seek to see happening.
Everyone mindsets needs to be changed to promote this brand but this is not the way to do it Proton! The price is totally not acceptable in the first place.
Just look at few competitors around like Kia. They had a bad name before but look at them today, they have come back up. You need to understand properly what your competition is and the market you are targeting.
The only sales point of this car is it’s price and you Proton down has let it down….
As the saying goes, too many cooks spoil the soup, this is clearly what happen to the styling of this Perdana, the 2.4 is over the top with the extra bodykit and in fact the 2.0 is just nice enough, those tailpipes should have been chrome and then overall I would have said for the exterior it would have been a good redesign from the old gen Honda accord.
Potong when too far bringing all their engineers and main masak-masak together so this is the outcome, you get this, interior is totally outdated, if Potong is saying they could not change the engine, transmission, gearbox, suspension and other mechanical parts as bestowed by Honda, then at the very least they could have re-design the interior completely, to take 2 years and this is the outcome is just shameful and pathetic for Potong !!
Interior, could have redesign the instrument cluster, make the navigation screen big currently at 6.2 inch, make it lar 8 or 12 inch, big -big a bit, that center LCD screen looks so cheap, like Brothers aftermarket shopping the potong engineers did and campak on the center dash ….that’s why I said main masak – masak, hand-brake, so ugly, could have put in a foot brake if electronics brake is not up to potong’s capabilities, freeing up the middle console area and that wood design, at least give the customer some options of wood trim lar for that price your selling at !!
Safety also failed, no mention of Asean NCAP ratings, 4 air bags for a car which is so long don’t even have curtain airbags…Potong guess does not bother about passengers in the car, ESC only available in the 2.4 model and 2.0 again belum masak !! Nothing else apart from the 15 year ago tech of ABS, EDB available from other car manufacturers, they could have put in some additional camare’s giving that 360 degrees viewing while in reverse for a long car and at close to 1930KG which is close to 2 tonnes, they could have put a Hill Assists as well right…..Last thing you wanna see is this long potong car running backwards on a hill or a supermarket car park ramp going up as its so bloody heavy !!! Lane departure also could have been added in again coz the car is so long will make it that extra safe !!
Warranty also wanna cheap out by putting mileage of 150K, you mention about using all Honda vendors making quality not an issue, so why not give 5 years unlimited warranty for that price your putting out. No mention of fuel consumption at all, what happen here, with all that extra weight put on the car, how will it do with city driving ?!
I use to own a Potong Perdana previously many years back, and I just overjoyed with the car and its V6 engine, sound but had gearbox problems and eventually sold it, so I am a Perdana owner before so for an upgrade waiting this long after so many years later, It would have been good for Potong to fill all of the above to meet the D-Segment current market and to price it also as a D-Segment, its just wrong without all those above mention, nobody is crazy, stupid enough to buy this car at those prices say what you all want, its just an outdate potong junk now !! The special task force should fire all of their R&D and engineering teams in Potong and like other partnerships their are looking for, hire from the other side to bring in real talent !!
Proton saga started w scrap mitsu lancer. Dumping ground
I’m not from auto industry but if other OEM susah2 design a car and it cost RM140k, but this copy-paste already cost RM110k, why the rakyat not able to benefit from the copy-paste effort? Or is it because the deal for copy-paste is as high as designing ourselves? Strange deal that we are getting or I will never understand Malaysia supply chain
BTW I am working in supply chain industry :P
their supplier all Krony bro company. With such a price sure ppl choose Japs brands car.
After few billion ringgit loan to Proton, still come out some craps. Poor u proton.
Crappy comment
Hmm… This is an interesting development… Essentially they are trying to sell a F-segment sedan at an entry level D-segment sedan or a full spec C-segment sedan price. Certainly I’ll give them the upper hand as there isn’t any F-segment sedans here in Malaysia priced below RM500k, even 2nd hand cars cost more than RM250k.
What’s even MORE interesting is that they are selling an non-existent-until-now-entry-level F-segment car with an entry level C-segment car’s tech at an entry level D-segment car’s price. The cheapest F-segment car I could think of was the Ssangyong Chairman CM500 at RM210 when it first launched.
And the most amazing thing I noticed is, they are trying to drag a F-segment car with a 189Nm/ 222Nm engine. What were they expecting from the poor tiny little engine? This car is the definition of a land barge; Big, Old & Slow.
On the positive note, land barge is very comfortable because of the added weight, longer wheel base and interior space. The rear seats seems more inclined and plush, so I guess this is an entry-level comfort car as well, and as of now P1 doesn’t have any competitors within the price range or segment. Theoretically it should give them a jump start.
If I’m going to guess, this car would have a slow start in sales because most people in Malaysia had never experience a land barge before (Nissan Cefiro is still within the D-segment). But the moment people try it out, they would have a different perspective to it, that is for those who prioritize comfort, imagine: cruising along the potholes and cant feel them bumping into you because the weight of the car irons them out, I bet you couldn’t imagine that unless you’ve driven/sat in a CM500 before. And the drive is lazy… very comfortably lazy that most of my passengers fall asleep after a while. Once people get used to that feeling sales would start booming, up until it breaks down because the engine couldn’t handle it, or the suspension breaks down because we get used to ignoring potholes (at least that’s what happened to me and my old CM500).
Suddenly I just realized who are the target consumer groups. Lazy, teh tarik, takpe, cincai, whatever, slow slow lah, drive 60kmph on highway with windows down, takes forever to move on green, takpe relax je… relax… Yawn… relaaxxxx…. Disclaimer *I would like to apologies to anyone I’ve annoyed in the past with my lackluster, lane hogging driving style. Very Sorry, I shall not get a land barge again.* As for those who had never own a land barge, my only advise is to try it out for experience sake, D/E-segment cars doesn’t have that wheel base and weight to give you such an experience. So take note: When test driving the car,
1) go pot holes area and feel how it’ll iron out the road
2) go highway and cruise (that’s the only thing land barge is good for)
3) stay away from crowded areas, land barge have poor pick-up’s (my old CM500 has a turbo 2.8L engine and it’s still slow, compared to my current Camry Hybrid), you’ll just slow everyone down.
4) ask salesperson to be quiet, let you chill in your drive. Play some chill music as well, roll a joint… if you could find some…
Too expensive. The optimum price is RM85k (for 2.0)
Paying so much for oudated, recyled, cloned Honda Accord?
Better get a used (and real Honda Accord) for much cheaper price, better built quality, better resale value…than this Pondana.
Proton Pondana is destined to be failure before launched.
Real Accord has no real superb handling, boring
Give me a reason for buying this instead of the new launched Honda Civic which is also more advanced yet cheaper. They also very pandai choosing the timing to go head on with Honda Civic!
Both are under DRB
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Danny – I don’t think you know how to use “latter” in a sentence. So confusing to read!
Car is absolute rubbish.
1. Top of the line model has no option for black interior, have to live with crappy 90’s style beige
2. No ESC on a 113k D-Segment car? Wtf…
3. Only 4 airbags on a 113k D-Segment car? Wtf…
4. They have a WHOLE SCREEN JUST FOR CLOCK??? Also that top screen is so far away to touch for use in navigation!
5. The A-pillar’s rise seems very steep, doesn’t look sleek – looks like a cartoon car. Compare with Mazda 6 to see the difference.
6. They delay this launch for so long and launch right when Honda launches the new Civic? Good luck…
Donor brand said cannot change interior that’s why
2.0L same price as Honda Civic 1.8L.Might as well buy Honda Civic 1.8L which has better spec (6 airbags,6 speed auto transmission, with VSA) & new design. This Perdana is based on Honda Accord model 2008 which I still remember clearly because Honda Accord lost to my former car (Nissan Sylphy) in 2008 car of the year award by a local car magazine. Inspira priced to be the same as B segment cars but still unable to sell well. Now this Perdana also priced to be the same as C segment cars. Really poor pricing strategy.
Price might might be reduced over time
yucks….!!
You must be frog alike myvi die hard fan
Frog is better, at least still no major problem after 10 years :P
Stupid P1 car alarm can sound by itself during midnight, wake up the whole neighborhood. Simple problem also cant prevent, what to expect…?
Yucks again…
I think 900 bookings havent passed the bank loan approval yet….
I wonder why P need to sell such a higher price? No R&D, no new tech, no new idea, nothing impressive, yet gaining a lot of JV experience at the end still can’t compete the world, sad…
hope on jun 2017,i can get one second hand perdana at rm 60k
Perdana 2.0L should be in Executive variant, not Premium variant.. Perdana 2.0L safety and features are lower than Perdana 2.4 Premium.. Not only safety & features, performance and accessories also below as it is should be..
Rest In Proton.
My guess, honda will increase their accord price. Win win situation
1.honda get better customer,but still make money,rubbish customer go to p1
2.proton can sell their new perdana…
Just wait next month after raya…
Proton cars are all rebadged.
Other card manufacturers are all moving forward.
Why is it Proton is moving backwards…?
Just look at models from Korea lah.
KIA and Hyundai. See how far they have come, from their car models in the 1990’s.
Why rebadge an old model…?
Cannot design something fresh…?
My god, the rear FAKE diffuser, probably makes the car feels racy with the fake exhaust diffuser.
(If it has no practicality in terms of design and look, just abort it lah.) So ugly. Might as well put a real exhaust diffuser.
How lah, all the proton designer.
Hey, Proton… Go venture into something else lah.
Please stop manufacturing and designing cars k…? PERIOD.
some 15-20 yrs ago, malaysian is proud if they are driving a proton wira on the road.
Me as an examples, proud to use wira to pick up gals.
But what happen nowadays is that people start to feel shame(paiseh) if still driving a proton.
Those affortable one will go for Nissan,Honda & Toyota B segment car instead of proton.
Those not so affordable one will rather go for perodua instead of proton.
In order to bring back Proton like those days, Proton have to figure out Why this will happen?
What I can think of is other Car manufacturer keep on improving themself while Proton is not.
Same like our working environment, if we are not improving ourself, we will be left behind one day.
first thing first.. kasi check power window dulu.
When i saw the picture from newspaper (jawa pos because im indonesian) i thought that this new perdana is gonna be awesome. Then, now i realize it is just a rebadge honda accord. When you look his face, i think it’s very nice.. then from the side, it’s begin to look like a blown up civic and that lower rear bumper look ridiculous. Well for me, still axia, iriz & suprima are the good protons. But this perdana? Hell no
Looks good at first but upon closer inspection, the new Perdana is a “mere” rebadged Honda Accord – all the way to the almost-exact cruise control position on the steering wheel as well as center location of the clock…
What a letdown, Proton should at least come up with something original like the Exora, since this is their flagship sedan! :(
If clone price 113K,
I strongly think better buy original product from HONDA.
When proton uses CamPro Engine on their other cars, you complain… tak boleh pakai. Now with a honda engine, on Perdana, still no good because it is re-badge. Apa lagi lu mau la ….
Perdana 2.0 113k
Perdana 2.4 139k
Accord 2.0 150k
Accord 2.4 173k
Definitely not my cup of tea but i cant comprehend why people are questioning the pricing when it is already so much cheaper than the original.
That’s because you don’t go snooping around for offers. Manufacturers now offer a ton of discounts, namely Hyundai and Honda. You can get a 2.0 Hyundai Sonata for about RM120k or 2.0 Honda Accord for RM130k after discount. And you choose to buy a car with literally 8-year old technology and safety feature for RM113k? If the price is good (Below RM100k) why not, but with so many competitors out there, why should you?
Also, it’s a local car. Without the tax and duties (compare the price in Langkawi) why are we still paying much more for a local car? What is the purpose of Proton now? Only to give job opportunities to locals? We are losing to Thailand for that matter!
I will definitely buy….if the price is 80k.
120k so mengarut. Seriously proton? You guys really think you are on that level?
Wowww new asian BMW is out for grab already! Habisla BMW europe smoke by this asian BMW
My 5-second review of this car: Please take your money and buy the new Honda Civic.
based on all the comments above, i am proven right lor.
Kereta klon Accord untuk angkat sampah sarap. Bodoh besi buruk punya kereta ini. Proton ingat kita rakyat bodoh kah?
Baik pergi scrap yard kasi leburkan kereta ini. Besi yg dilebur tu boleh kasi buat penutup longkang di Bandar Raya KL and Selangor lagi baik!!
That’s just a Honda Accord with Tesla Model 3 body…
Proton is dead. Don’t throw money on a dead company…
Hampas ayam…luar proton dalam honda…apa kata tukar nama dari proton pada PRODA ka @ PROHON ka…dah takdak modai ka apa prohon @ proda ni…cepat2 la lingkup proton ni sbb hangpa la harga keta malaysia ni mahal macam lahanat…tak reti nak buat kereta duk gagah nak buat jugak
Waiting for the following:
1) 2.0 Turbo to be fitted
2) Proton tuned ride and handling
3) Massive discounts from dealers :)
And you have to have some of these features so as not to be outdated la
4) Adaptive cruise control (such a common feature overseas)
5) Autonomous braking