Naza Citra II Rondo 7-seater launched in Malaysia
Naza Kia Sdn Bhd has launched the new Naza Citra II Rondo in Malaysia. The Naza Citra II Rondo is essentially the Kia Rondo which is the replacement model for Carens that the Naza Citra is based on. The Citra will continue to be sold as a budget 7-seater SUV, and the new Naza Citra II Rondo will be positioned between the Citra and the Ria, bringing Naza Kia’s 7-seater offerings up to 3 models.
According to Naza Kia, the new Rondo is built on the D-segment new Kia Optima platform and also shares the Optima’s sweet new GEMA-based 2.0 liter DOHC CVVT engine producing 145 horsepower and 189Nm of torque, mated to a 4-speed automatic transmission with sequential manual shifting. The GEMA engine is a joint project between DaimlerChrysler, Hyundai and Mitsubishi. The 4B11 in the Mitsubishi Lancer is also based on the GEMA family.
Like the Optima, the Rondo rides on MacPherson struts at the front and a multi-link setup with coil springs at the rear. It also has anti-roll bars as standard for both the front and rear axles. It scored 5 stars on the NHTSA frontal crash ratings.
Two equipment levels are available – the Naza Citra II Rondo EX and the Naza Citra II Rondo EXS. The Naza Citra II Rondo EX features foglamps, six-jet windscreen washers, a trip computer, a 6 speaker sound system with a CD player, ABS brakes, dual SRS airbags, a manual climate control system, body-colored door handles, body-colored side moldings and black front grille crossbars packaged with 15-inch alloy wheels wrapped with Goodyear Eagle NCT5 tyres. The Rondo EXS carries over the features from the EX but adds an automatic climate control system, steering wheel audio, a roof rack and 16-inch alloy wheels.
The Rondo’s front row features 1,043mm of headroom and 1,042mm of legroom while the second row (60:40 multifold split bench) offers 1,015mm of headroom and 975mm of legroom. The third row (50:50 split) is naturally less at 887mm of headroom and 800mm of legroom but Naza Kia says this is enough for an average-sized adult. It’s best to head to showrooms and try it for yourself.
- Naza Citra II Rondo EX – RM84,888
- Naza Citra II Rondo EXS – RM88,888
Look after the jump for more photos of the new Naza Citra II Rondo.
September 15, 2008 @ 12:16 pm
1st
ugly
September 15, 2008 @ 12:16 pm
not bad…but still waiting for proton MPV…
September 15, 2008 @ 12:26 pm
It holds a Naza badge instead of Kia and it’s called Naza Citra II Rondo, does it means it is locally assembled? I’ve seen this car is being used as taxi or sumthing in the previous post? Naza didnt really advertise this new model so far….
September 15, 2008 @ 12:35 pm
cun la.. harga pun ok..
September 15, 2008 @ 12:40 pm
Now no more ugly Ah Beng style rear lamps and bumpers, another head to head contender for P1 MPV.
September 15, 2008 @ 12:51 pm
Nice!! Certainly a better option than the totally Van stlye “mini Myvi with longer boot” Avanza.
September 15, 2008 @ 1:00 pm
a good car but very not much people appreciate it. How about NGV version?
September 15, 2008 @ 1:05 pm
nice.. both inside n outside.. love the engine too..
September 15, 2008 @ 1:19 pm
The Rondo is a nice MPV… it’s about time they brought it here. But why the name… it’s kind of a mouthful. Perhaps they should’ve kept it to just ‘Naza Rondo’ or ‘Naza Citra Rondo’. The II is overkill, we know it’s a Citra replacement… lol~
September 15, 2008 @ 1:41 pm
‘m wondering, if an imported Japan car was taxed heavily and ended up in Malaysia with a price tag of around RM90k, how come a locally manufactured car can end up close to 90k as well?
Excessive profiting due consumer’s familiarization of parting with 30% of their income parity for a car purchase?
Take a look at KIA Sorento, selling at $21,695 USD in United States, which is around RM71,600. How can this Citra costs so much more to produce in Malaysia? And I’m very sure sunroofs, sat navs, electric adjustable seats, costs alot more than plastic cubby holes everywhere in the car.
We need to cry out to the local manufacturers for stop ripping us off because we could shave RM10 or RM20k off the imported vehicle’s price. Most of the imported car’s we buy ended up with 60% of our monthly installments gone to pay for government taxes.
September 15, 2008 @ 1:51 pm
okay la but i think i still prefer the previous one
September 15, 2008 @ 1:53 pm
The design is quite outdated now…. I wonder why it took so long to have it introduced here – it was introduced in the States back in late 2006 and is only make its way to Malaysia almost 2 years later…..
I have tried it before – 3rd row roof line is too low for comfort, especially true for an adult.
September 15, 2008 @ 1:53 pm
I would buy one if it is AT and powered by a 2.0 CDRi diesel engine
September 15, 2008 @ 2:32 pm
I saw this car last friday in Naza Kia 3S Centre in Selayang while i was servicing my 2004 Kia Spectra which i want to sell bcoz of too many problem. I need to change my drive shaft bcoz it is damaged. Dont buy korean cars. Lots of problem. My 2002 Hyundai Matrix 1.8 has a Gear box problem after 2 years of usage. The Hyundai has been replaced by a 2006 Honda Civic 2.0. Im looking forward to see the 2009 Honda City.
September 15, 2008 @ 2:47 pm
Harry Potter that’s a prejudicial and unfair statement. I know Japanese cars with leaking front windows, cracked cylinder heads, warped brake rotors, warped dashboards, rocking engine mounts. Why single out ‘KOREAN’ makes? Be careful because if you can’t prove it, it will be deemed defamatory.
September 15, 2008 @ 3:00 pm
wow interior manyak shiock. not bad.
September 15, 2008 @ 3:03 pm
as ugly as the name .. rondo .. wtf ..
September 15, 2008 @ 3:08 pm
The Rondo was introduced in Canada and the USA November 2006 so it is not a full 2 years yet. I think it arrived in Malaysia rather early considering the time needed to localise the parts (though I think not much localisation has taken place) and for Naza to clear stocks of the old model.
In Australia, the Rondo was launched in April 2008. The rest of the world got theirs 1st or 2nd quarter 2007.
I have taken a look at the car and it is a winner in all respects. Its target markets are families who will look into all their available options instead of blindly buying a car just based on the brand.
The fact that it is based on the Sonata NF/Optima platform with the same GEMA 2.0 engine used, makes the car a very compelling drive. I can vouch for the platform and engine as I have a Sonata NF at home.
Cars falling apart – this depends on the car really. My 3 year old Honda City is also falling apart. The first thing to fail is the central locking actuator (never had that failing in all my other non-Proton cars) and now the interior lamp switch is giving problems. Sometimes it stays on and sometimes it won’t. A simple electrical connection problem but it is damn irritating on a Japanese car.
So for those who want to continue to diss the latest batch of Korean cars, please go ahead. It depresses the market and prices, making it easier for me to own one!
September 15, 2008 @ 3:16 pm
wow, this could give the Grand Livina a run for it’s money.
about the same price as the NGL 1.6 liter, but comes with much better specs.
damn. the Mini MPV market just got competitive.
theres still the Proton and Perodua MPV up next….
but the badge is still an issue.
September 15, 2008 @ 3:18 pm
If it were a 5-Speed Auto, it would be a very good buy but another boring 4-speed Auto.
September 15, 2008 @ 3:19 pm
an OK car…unfortunately i can’t understand why they’re not shipping this with the 2.0 CDRi version. would have hopped on the MPV bandwagon should they offer 1 in diesel version (car too small, SUV too big and pickup truck not practical enough for me)
September 15, 2008 @ 3:20 pm
This was first seen in KLIMS 2006 as the Multi-S Concept. In the US it was launched as a 2007 model. IMHO to get from 2006 to Sep 08 to full production overseas model is quite good, but then no one can be satisfied, can they! Go see one at the showroom. I just got back from seeing a whole bunch of them at PJ Automall. The test drive was short but it felt quite solid, good cockpit feel, lots of get up and go, good braking too. Interior is very silent, minimal road noise, engine noise, etc.
September 15, 2008 @ 3:43 pm
For RM88k…value for money
Overall design and 4-speed tranny is a letdown.
Naza shud throw in optional bodykit.
For u guys that haven’t realize it yet, M’sia is a dumpsite for aging models..courtesy of Naza
September 15, 2008 @ 3:44 pm
Haha, isn’t this car used for the New York City taxi? Must be reliable then. Spectra got many problems? It all depends on your driving style. My grandma has been using the Spectra since ‘03/’04 and there hasn’t been any problems besides changing parts which were due. Maintenance-wise, parts are a bit pricey but hey, it’s not a Proton.
September 15, 2008 @ 4:19 pm
Yeah the Kia Rondo New York Taxi concept! It was quite nice and if it can go head-to-head with a Checker Marathon it should do fine in KL.
http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/03/kia-rondo-taxi-concept/
September 15, 2008 @ 4:30 pm
I like the design, notoriously ugly like the Hunchback from Notredame. Maybe Proton MPV would be better, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haruuuunnnnnnn
September 15, 2008 @ 4:30 pm
the 10th picture
tat orange tube is air-cond piping?
yer~~
why dun just cover it up?
September 15, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
exterior really damn ugly…. seen it in flesh at Naza PJ Automall around noon after the launch.. interior trim quality & design quite good, IMO better than GL…
September 15, 2008 @ 4:51 pm
maibatsu_thunder said,
September 15, 2008 @ 2:47 pm
Harry Potter that’s a prejudicial and unfair statement. I know Japanese cars with leaking front windows, cracked cylinder heads, warped brake rotors, warped dashboards, rocking engine mounts. Why single out ‘KOREAN’ makes? Be careful because if you can’t prove it, it will be deemed defamatory.
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maibatsu.. the poor guy has owned “2″ korean cars, of course he can prove it, he put his money down, bought the cars, and have had bad experiences… i can understand if you own 1, have a bad experience and move on, but “2″??
give the guy a break la. I believe he has earned his right to comment.
September 15, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
i dont think the design is bad, its bland, but not bad, but it does look almost exactly like the citra its supposed to replace.. or is it the same car? sorry.. dont know much about these cars.
but for the price, + that engine, I think its a pretty good package in our market. but looks like there is no boot space at all with the 3 row of seats in use. i think its smaller than the livina overall, but i could be wrong. but then again, i’m not in the market for something like this.
September 15, 2008 @ 4:58 pm
I am Malaysian based in Singapore..yeap i drive this exact model for almost a year already. But for local market here it is still called Kia Carens.
My findings? It’s a good Korean car after all. Better interior quality, silent interior, good handling with sure stopping 4 all round disc brakes..
But my model here using Hyundai Theta (G4KC), dunno if Naza Rondo’s GEMA based is better?
Already clocked 30,000 km/h, no such major evidents of rattlings and repair because this model 100% made in Korea. Superbly built for European market. Price is comparable if you take between apple to apple..
For those who unsure about Korean car, take a test drive or better you sign up for one..and made a wise decision like me. Having driven Italian marque for so many years, i am truly confident with the list of top names in auto industries in their payroll now..
September 15, 2008 @ 5:19 pm
Everytime i saw this car on the road, i was like – wow that’s a sexy back (with the contoured rear lamps) and when i overtake it …. the front is ….. err ….. sigh ……
September 15, 2008 @ 5:27 pm
it’s still value for money considering what the competition offers plus i think that due to it’s height, it’s got lots more headroom than the competitors.
September 15, 2008 @ 5:34 pm
Ingolstadt..i am fully aggreable with you..
One motoring mag here compare the sexy curvaceous back with those of Audi Q7 and Cayenne..not bad huh??
Looks so irresistible from rear so much so that you want to drive closer and check it out closely…
September 15, 2008 @ 5:36 pm
The front light i must agree that a bit turn off..too big i guess.
Solution..get a body coloured sticker and sharpen the lens to make it more
ferocious.
September 15, 2008 @ 5:55 pm
Cyberkayu said,
September 15, 2008 @ 4:30 pm
the 10th picture
tat orange tube is air-cond piping?
yer~~
why dun just cover it up?
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i agree..
its look ugly n messy…
i’ve wnt to naza shwroom n this new citra i can give verict
5/10 ratin/…
frst im questioning about plastic interior quality..its look toyally cheap!!!!!!!!!
driving position is weird….
cramped 4 3rd rear seat…4 my size 179cm tall.
door slamp feel cheap also….
thats all….
September 15, 2008 @ 5:57 pm
value for money, but value a bit worrying
September 15, 2008 @ 5:59 pm
by looking what i can offer! consider it ok la. But i really do hope they can bring something more changes and not so noticeable.
September 15, 2008 @ 6:07 pm
i had enough for korean cars. Not to say about their secondhand value, the quality also poor. i and my group of friends do have a kia spectra, we faced almost the same problems. 1st, gearbox problem, 2nd, disc break problem, 3rd, radiator problem then suspension problem. Costly parts and feul efficiency very low. Now we have the biggest problem, the car cannot sell due to low secondhand value. nightmare.
September 15, 2008 @ 6:12 pm
Hahaha…another person with his Spectre experience!
Harry potter,
I too used to own a 2006 Kia Spectre Novus edition and my god…the nightmare is too much for me to bare. First, let me tell you that any Korean made cars outside Malaysia is well built especially the Hyundai. Seriously dude, you’d be surprise to drive one! Second, I don’t think it’s the brand fault but rather the “authorise assembler” that screw it ups! Third, forget about fixing it la dude…sell it if you have the chance! I know…I mean I knew the amount of money fixing whatever problems occured owning a Spectre. Peace!
September 15, 2008 @ 6:14 pm
paul, you are even faster than the guys at Naza Kia, nothing on the Rondo on their website yet. Please ask them to cover the air-cond piping.
September 15, 2008 @ 6:25 pm
Back to Naza Citra II Rondo,
I kinda like the improvement of the interior from the previous one since my brother also own one. Hope this new Citra won’t give much problems to any it’s new owner as….again what my brother had experience with his (the freaking steering suddenly jammed and had to put to the workshop for over a month). Plus, what about the fuel consumption? My brother’s Citra is freaking fuel guzzler man! If Proton could sell their MPV for much cheaper and throw the exact same features as this Citra then Proton can have the MPV market segment under their belt.
Anyway, hope Naza have luck selling this one as many as they can since Proton MPV is just around the corner! Peace.
September 15, 2008 @ 6:29 pm
its ugly and not cheap either….really suprised with the praised from you all.
September 15, 2008 @ 7:22 pm
1st of all, congrate 4 Naza to launch the New MPV!
2ndly, Do not buy Korean Car! Why?????
* Kia Caren or Naza Citra is damn high fuel consumption – lah as my brother’s Kia Caren! properly up to 35 cents
* Do not have 2nd hand value! Damn cheap of 2nd prices! RM 3x,xxx! after 3 years
* Quality problems —> A lots of damn problems
^ My brother car door changed 2 times!
^ Engine oils appear by itself & until now still do not known what actual problem
^ Air cood not cold enough at the back seats
^ Damn noise come from engine
* The design not much different with Naza Citra!
But one thing need to compliment is Interior design is not bad!
Although i’m not Anti Korean car but this is my experiance about Korean car! Figure up yourself!
Cheer…………This is first times i make a comment!
September 15, 2008 @ 7:34 pm
Good effort from NAZAKia but still far from adequate to woo Proton MPV-Livina-Innova-Avanza segments to give a consideration to this MPV. Interior-wise really made Livina ‘overpriced’.
Naza really don’t want to use their BULLET 2.0 CRDi, l wonder why (maybe due to poor local diesel quality alone)?
Sale will be hamper by the FC, as this mpv must have >1500kg kerb weight. As usual Naza too shy to reveal their mpv’s weight. I dare to bet Proton mpv don’t sports equivalent interior BUT consumer perception favored Proton instead of NAZA.
September 15, 2008 @ 8:01 pm
Oh my god… It is such a nice car yet so cheap!!! Now this is the most valuable MPV in our market!!
September 15, 2008 @ 8:08 pm
Agreed with many of the comments posted above .. one word .. ugly as it sound .. ugly as it look .. the mpv is replaced is 1000x prettier than this one ..
September 15, 2008 @ 8:54 pm
Urang minang yang boli ni buleh lah bawak dr g rondo-rondo jalan kat kuala pilah eehh….
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keep up the good job naza, import more to give the buyers choices and more choices!
September 15, 2008 @ 9:32 pm
Not really fugly BUT disproportionate design as Rondo’s windows to high relative to the predecessor it replaced. This design allowed more head space and l don’t mind if this mpv can give me decent FC (from diesel) and reliability is on par with Japanese.
But it’s cheap in our term BUT otherwise if we factored in the maintenance costs and many Naza-Kia owners (of Spectra for instance) will stay away from this cars. And most of my friend’s Citra had problem with their leak radiator and excessive gasoline bill.
September 15, 2008 @ 10:07 pm
Normally, the “authorised local assembler” that screwed up the brand. Look at between local CKD Mercedes and a CBU Mercedes, then you’ll know why..
As i drive the 100% Korean made Carens, i haven’t found any single problem for the last 30,000km. Mind you guys, my Carens have gone up to Bangkok from Singapore right after the car came out from the showroom.
The plasticky part inside the Naza Rondo could be sourced out locally, that’s why…and it looks “el cheapo”.
September 15, 2008 @ 10:16 pm
Saw this mpv at major shopping complexes in Kedah and Penang. Very ugly and cheap interior. I bet it will be fuel guzzer also. 2nd value sure will be hell.
September 15, 2008 @ 10:19 pm
http://www.carpages.co.uk/kia/kia-carens-review-part-1-13-11-06.asp
Model Reviewed Kia Carens 2.0 CRDi LS [in bracket petrol]
Performance ~ manufacturers figures
0 – 62 mph 11 Seconds
Top Speed 116 mph
Transmission 6-Speed Manual
Fuel Type Diesel
Economy ~ manufacturers figures
Urban 36.2 mpg [25.4 mpg]
Extra Urban 54.3 mpg [40.9 mpg]
Combined 46.3 mpg [33.6 mpg]
305Nm between 1800-2500 rpm for the diesel and 189Nm at 4250 rpm for the petrol.
Looking at the range list, it is clear that the emphasis is on the 7-seat version with the diesel engine, which makes sense in terms of flexibility and frugality. The 138 bhp, turbo-charged, 2.0 CRDi engine is also flexible and willing to eat up as many miles as you care to put in front of it. This unit, in combination with the 6-speed manual gearbox takes 11.0 seconds to get from 0-62mph and the top speed is 116 mph. The automatic version has the same top speed but takes 12.6 seconds for the 0-62 mph dash. Curiously, the 142 bhp, 2.0 petrol engine is not that much different with figures of 118 mph and 11.0 seconds for the top speed and sprint respectively.
The differences show themselves at the pumps. The fuel consumption figures for the diesel unit in LS trim are 36.2 mpg (urban), 54.3mpg (extra-urban) and 46.3mpg (combined), while those for the petrol engine are 25.4 mpg, 40.9 mpg and 33.6 mpg. Of course, the other variance is the amount of torque produced; 305Nm between 1800-2500 rpm for the diesel and 189Nm at 4250 rpm for the petrol.
MY COMMENT: BUY or BYE?
BYE until Naza bring the diesel 2.0CRDi version if you’re really into FC. BUT, the value is not bad, no wonder while reviewing this thread, Nissan advertise their Livina again in TVC. Livina is overpriced and little bit of atypical Nissan though my wife bought the mpv. But you’ll satisfied in FC department and decent after-sales service (l’m not referring to under-equipped service centers; the ETCM’s Achilles’ heel) NOT other areas.
September 15, 2008 @ 10:41 pm
Cheap interior? If that is the case, do let us know which cars you consider to have a “classy” interior? The Toyota Vios by any chance?
September 15, 2008 @ 11:04 pm
Oh sh!t, rusty steering shaft. Did I see wrongly?
Frankly, it’s goddamned fugly. Nuff said.
September 15, 2008 @ 11:08 pm
This powertrain gets 8.0-litres per 100km at around 100-110km/h.
September 15, 2008 @ 11:16 pm
imo, the front looks very ugly, the old 1 better. interior also bad, rear more ugly .uhuhh all ugly but the price is most ugly one !!! gila mahal. naza please bring nice mpv instead of this ugly citra and karnival. the price not so so high…
September 15, 2008 @ 11:40 pm
when u think about it, its worth it more than the alado mpv. i do not trust the chinese made mpv, in terms of safety and anything. so im sure the kia is much better. i agree that kia in malaysia have poorer qc, thanks to the naza-rip-off corporation. my dad owns a ssangyong rexton 270xdi cbu from korea and nothing has fallen apart. i think the main fault has got to do with the workmanship in malaysia. i thought the ssangyong would break down after 1-2 years, but boy i was wrong. i wondered why my dad didn’t go for other cars, like the fortuner, but the rexton is by far, much better
September 15, 2008 @ 11:53 pm
wow, kinda impressive with Naza’s/ Kia job?~
Interior kinda attractive, ehm, nice budget as well.
But, still felt bulky, not as bulky as the previous~ but still~
Q is:” This is the the exact specs??”
September 15, 2008 @ 11:54 pm
CHEAP INTERIOR is merely blind bashing. Interior of Wish not better than Rondo. Vios is better than this? We can fathom your sincerity dude if you dare to say that.
September 16, 2008 @ 12:38 am
I think some guys are sitting in front of a keyboard and just saying ‘cheap interior’ but don’t have a clue what they actually mean. The media guy in the YouTube video drives the actual vehicle and says he really likes the interior. I suggest you go to the showroom and check:
a) Materials
b) Interior gap fit and finish
c) Exterior gap fit and finish (bumper to body, hood gaps, uniformity)
d) Doors (triple contact rubber seals)
e) Flat floor carpet (no hills and valleys, bumps)
f) Paint quality – no drip marks, glossy in all the right areas
g) Tricot headliner
Then only form your own opinion but be sure to compare with Nissan Livina, Toyota Avanza and then some higher priced units like the Toyota Innova, Wish and Honda Stream. Some of the comments on the interior and quality here seem like very emotional assumptions.
It’s the same thing with the fuel consumption. Stop spreading BS rumours. Here are the fuel consumption specs for a GASOLINE powered, AUTOMATIC Rondo, from the Kia UK website.
15″ Alloys
Urban (cold) – mpg(l/100km) 24.1 (11.7)
Extra urban – mpg (l/100km) 40.9 (6.9)
Combined – mpg (l/100km) 32.8 (8.6)
16″ Alloys
Urban (cold) – mpg(l/100km) 24.6 (11.5)
Extra urban – mpg (l/100km) 42.8 (6.6)
Combined – mpg (l/100km) 33.6 (8.4)
September 16, 2008 @ 1:00 am
Thunder,
I couldn’t agree more with you. Ask Nissan’s guys to compare Livina vs Rondo’s interior in the flesh. Then give sincere review.
September 16, 2008 @ 6:48 am
Yes it is ugly. In term of quality and value for money, Naza is a winner. Their cars from Kulim plant really has a high standard of quality compare to Toyota or even a locally assembled Honda. Just be in its interior then only you can feel the different. I have a good experience when driving a Spectra, it feels luxury actually. The downside is their high spare parts price due to scarce resource of Korean salvaged cars at ‘kedai potong’.
September 16, 2008 @ 7:41 am
Why is everyone complaining about the cheap interior? This is relatively good value for money.
Thats no different than any of the any budget/entry level cars. Vios, City, Grand Liniva.
Its about time Naza brought this in. The old Carens is way past due for replacement. I was even dissapointed by the hard plastic interior of the IS300…so there you go.
Think about this, even though the interior may feel cheap, the chassis is still a 5 star crash rating i’m sure our wont get 5 stars…as it going to be missing some airbags), but then again, nothing in the same price range gets 5 stars.
Just hoping that NAza don’t screw up the quality. These greedy bastards usually find some way to cut corners…and overcharge at the same time. But if you look at it, any CKD cars be it Mercedes, Honda et al, have quality issues…Malaysians just can’t screw a car together well?
September 16, 2008 @ 7:46 am
rondo–>family man with kids
ria—>new family man with babies
spectra5–>man “retired” from playing “field”
correct, no?
September 16, 2008 @ 7:57 am
but it looks clean and solid
September 16, 2008 @ 8:29 am
this gives malaysian another choice for one of the cheapest MPV in the market. i think it is unfair to comment a car solely based on its look. hey, we should also look at the practicality of the car, how abt the price and the space it offers!?
those who is considering to buy this MPV, test drive it yourself and see whether it suits your need. some of the negative comments here are baseless and made out of personal perceptions.
September 16, 2008 @ 8:39 am
najibest said,
September 15, 2008 @ 3:19 pm
an OK car…unfortunately i can’t understand why they’re not shipping this with the 2.0 CDRi version. would have hopped on the MPV bandwagon should they offer 1 in diesel version (car too small, SUV too big and pickup truck not practical enough for me)
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Agreed..so far the only diesel mpv available is the Hyundai Grand Starex which i do think a gud buy at RM130k++ (CBU)….
September 16, 2008 @ 8:49 am
i have to say too many blind bashers in this over here…comparing the old citra with the new 1 is like comparing apple to oranges…..i mean they’re using a new engine cvvt here (found in the new optima) which is a derivative of the 1 used by mitsubishi lancer (obviously not the same engine but the same family and it’s also 2 liter) so the FC should improve compared to the old 1. this car is currently used as an NYC cab right now
interior looks can be subjective and i’ll leave it at that but frankly speaking, it’s a very practical car for big family and an affordable 1 too, well would you want to buy a vios compared to this 1 if you have 5 kids?. and like i said before, if you have the diesel version, it’s even better.
September 16, 2008 @ 9:15 am
Agree with Harry Potter…Better go for Nissan Grand Livina. Fuel consumption is the best in its class. Korean car is worst than Proton car. At least Proton is our national car. Compare both, I’ll sure go for Proton…though my sweetheart is Nissan.
September 16, 2008 @ 9:37 am
The Citra has never been uglier than this! yup! as ugly as it’s name Rondo. I’ve seen the sketch. How can the engineer turn the designer’s design illustration into this joke? The designer must have been really pissed off.
September 16, 2008 @ 10:32 am
So ppl between this Naza Rondo and Chery Eastar MPV launched recently which is better, price range similar …… Eastar look better than Rondo but how is NAZA aftersales service ? or even Chery Alado after sales service ? Feedback if any ??
September 16, 2008 @ 10:58 am
The Rondo is a superior car to the Eastar. I just had a back to back comparison between the Rondo and the Mazda 5 and the Rondo gives the better overall impression interior-wise.
It trumps the 5 in interior space except for the cargo area behind the 3rd row seats.
September 16, 2008 @ 11:03 am
Rondo is a global model sold in North America, Europe, Middle East. They have a nationwide sales and service network and toll-free customer line 1-800-888-KIA(542). NHSTA NCAP rating is 5-Star and EURO NCAP is 4-Star I believe. Furthemore Kia Motors regional office is in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
You can’t compare these global manufacturers to Alado/Chery. Compare both, and Nissan Grand Livina too, which is an ASEAN model (Reference – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Livina_Geniss) and see for yourself.
September 16, 2008 @ 12:44 pm
No sunroof anymore?
BTW, the third row side window is a little too small & to high for kids who sits there to look outside.
Spec-wise, it’s quite generously priced for a mid-size MPV. Named other MPV (or even car for that matter..) with auto climate control for below RM90k.
Worth a try before placing order for NGL 1.6.. I’d say.
September 16, 2008 @ 1:18 pm
Some info on the fuel-efficient Kia Rondo 2.0L DOHC CVVT Theta II engine.
Here’s the CVVT vendor – http://www.morsetec.com/ and the GEMA site -
http://www.gemaengine.com/.
September 16, 2008 @ 1:46 pm
alfetta said,
September 15, 2008 @ 4:58 pm
Theta is the family code given to the GEMA engine by Hyundai, while Mitsubishi gave it the 4B code.
newer Theta II engine on the Sonata TRANSFORM which is a facelift of Sonata NF features VVT on both intake and exhaust, same as Toyota’s Dual VVT-i.
REX said,
September 16, 2008 @ 9:15 am
Keep those rubbish comment to yourself if you have nothing inside your brain.
Oh and please stop using your pathetic old JUNK such as spectra citra ria carnival to compare and conclude every goddamn Korean car is the same,they’re the 5th largest Automotive Manufacturer now now by volume.
September 16, 2008 @ 2:04 pm
Saw it “otr” already, it’s a delivery car..lol..such an impact for up-coming Proton MPV~
September 16, 2008 @ 3:02 pm
Hopefully Naza will improve their Quality Control (QC), since lot’s of Naza batched cars(except for 206) having problem that is specific to each model(I don’t have to list it down). If not for sure people will further abandon this brand..again..
September 16, 2008 @ 3:02 pm
stream, interior scretches, shifter N to D awful.
avanza, tall, roll a bit, foot well limited by gearbox,
livina, jarring ride, long rear overhang,
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citra ii (dont know yet……..
September 16, 2008 @ 3:57 pm
No much comments as this is a volume seller that is suppose to cater to the general mass’ taste.
One thing that i noticed is how close the third row of seat is to the rear windscreen and the seat are almost like touching the rear tailgate (boot)? Could it be that in their effort make this car a 7 seater compromised on the safety some what? Also, if the seats are so closed, where is 7 ppl’s luggage gonna go?
Anyway is there any other car that the 3rd row is too close to the rear ? Avanza? Innova? Grand Livina?
September 16, 2008 @ 4:31 pm
-Better buy first batch coz better quality
-The interior material looks quite cheap and please cover the air-cond tube or steering shaft…
-The 3rd row is just for children or teenagers only
-The name is so….
but at least the exterior is ok and the price is cheap too !!
September 16, 2008 @ 6:41 pm
another rubbish design for malaysian.
September 16, 2008 @ 8:05 pm
minum petrol macam takla kesah
September 16, 2008 @ 9:39 pm
lomotus said,
September 16, 2008 @ 6:41 pm
another rubbish design for malaysian.
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You should post your immature yet ignorance remark at avanza, innova, vios, citieslogan, or even livina as these cars targeted at ‘developing countries or entry level in developed economies’ buyers. European, american also get rondo/carens.
ignas said,
September 16, 2008 @ 8:05 pm
minum petrol macam takla kesah
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i’ve no problem with this forumer. It’s fact.
September 17, 2008 @ 1:00 am
Interestingly while so many are so pro-Japanese, the Jap manufacturers have never thought of including dual airbags as standard items in sub-RM40k cars until recently. With that kind of mentality how do you think Asia-focus cars like Vios, City, Livina, Avanza, Innova, etc. are built?
September 17, 2008 @ 1:12 am
maibatsu_thunder said,
September 17, 2008 @ 1:00 am
Interestingly while so many are so pro-Japanese, the Jap manufacturers have never thought of including dual airbags as standard items in sub-RM40k cars until recently. With that kind of mentality how do you think Asia-focus cars like Vios, City, Livina, Avanza, Innova, etc. are built?
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I guess we do WEIGHT badge more than anything, then easier for Japs to give minimalist features to us. Still remember until 2003 we had sub-Corolla Toyota or little earlier sub-Civic City.
September 17, 2008 @ 6:32 am
Until something comes along to challenge them and draw sales away, the Japs won’t improve anything. They only offered City with dual airbags due to the insistence of LOCAL staff. The Japanese believed City should be introduced ‘kosong’ to Malaysia. Toyota introduced the Vios lower range model with only a single airbag and a radio-cassette player! Same thing with Perodua (rebadged Daihatsu), which only introduced dual airbags after others came in with sub-RM40k A-segment cars with dual airbags as standard items.
September 17, 2008 @ 7:37 am
Maibatsu_thunder is right. My first Japanese car (a 2nd gen Honda City) is quite a disappointing car for the money paid. Sure, it is the best Japanese option in the market at the time I bought it but for RM89k OTR, I cannot see where my money went.
The only good thing about the car is the engine and the drivetrain. The interior is done up rather well but after owing the car for a couple of months, you start to wonder if you have been shortchanged.
RM89k and there is no clock and no adjustable intermittent wiper. Small stone chips on the bonnet flare up into rust spots when even larger stone chips on a CKD Hyundai Matrix give no issues. I can safely vouch that the Honda City I have rusts very fast. Whether it is the paintwork having not enough layers or an issue with the metal used, I don’t care. I just know I had to spend money to touch up one of the rust spots which turned into a pea-sized hole (this was on the car body where the rear door meets the body).
Korean cars have more features than Japanese cars these days yet they are cheaper. The quality standards are on par with the rest of the world and it is a fact that Korean cars generally handle better than their Japanese counterparts. Drive a Toyota Camry or Honda Accord at 160km/h on the highway and compare the overall car stability with that of a Hyundai Sonata NF or Kia Optima. Those who haven’t experienced it, please don’t comment.
September 17, 2008 @ 8:13 am
maibatsu_thunder,
Are u the naza sales person? or Korean Car representative? come on la. most in here know this korean car not good in quality. maybe just good in design but cannot last long.
September 17, 2008 @ 8:52 am
are5th,
and why are you and most of the forumers here criticise korean cars? Can you prove that the japs cars are much more superior than the korean cars? while korean car manufactures are improving and the newer korean cars are making a big presence globally, most malaysians are still with their old mentality.
September 17, 2008 @ 8:57 am
finally we get one of the better looking kia’s….oh wait, what the fuck, its a naza…damn you naza
September 17, 2008 @ 10:36 am
Are5th,
Here’s a parody of yourself for everyone’s entertainment:
“Are u the Nissan/Toyota/Honda sales person? or Japanese Car representative? come on la. most in here know this Japanese car not good in quality. maybe just good in design but cannot last long.”
Alpina what’s with the profanity?
September 17, 2008 @ 10:58 am
yae im olso curious
maibatsu_thunder
isit true ?
September 17, 2008 @ 12:09 pm
Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder…
September 17, 2008 @ 12:11 pm
Maibatsu merely telling the truth. Me too, just have a Japs for last 3 months and you can’t deny the FACT that some Japs like T-brand really stingy in features and quality for developing market like us. Take Hilux for instance, previously based on the Hilux/4 Runner (US moniker) but now Hilux is IMV together with Innova/Fortuner. Thus it’s lower than Hilux SUV/Tacoma SUT which is the real Hilux.
Avanza and Innova, Unser not really good if they are not T-brand. If we, consumer don’t buy Japs then Japs will give more to us. Myself still prefer Japs BUT not Asian/3rd world model (exception for Hilux for Australia/UK).
If anti-Korea still unable to understand: please go to UMW (to see Hiace), Nissan (Urvan) and Hyundai (Starex). In Europe or US/Canada the Japs van never offered for quite long time. Ask yourself why? I anytime will take Starex over Urvan/Hiace.
September 17, 2008 @ 12:36 pm
Yae maybe korea car is good but u can see the secondhand value of that car, eg: KIA Optima after 3 yrs only worth 40k, its 1/3 of the new price…, so ok any car olso have their goodness. But depend on how or what is ur plan for the car…, if u plan to use for 5 yrs then sell …and trade in for new one, probably need to think about the secondhand value. But if u want to use and inherit it and no planning to sell it..maybe can go for low maintenance car…
BTW…my dads civic sh4 (1991) is still running smooth….he bought it new at that time….still got some price….
September 17, 2008 @ 2:14 pm
No I’m not ‘the Naza salesperson’! I love just about all sorts of cars and actually in my household there are Japanese and German cars. A Thai origin Japanese motorcycle and also an Italian one. I’ve worked on cars since 1985, helping out with jacking up a car, changing brake pads, bleeding brakes, then moving on to rebuilding carburettors, changing clutch assemblies and finally rebuilding. I did a bit of bodywork and welding too. That’s the background of my 2 sen.
But this prejudicial and childish way of bashing a brand or country without even checking the actual car, without driving it, and without doing a back-to-back STATIC and DYNAMIC review, but at the same time putting their ‘pet brands’ on a pedestal, and claiming infallibility is very unfair and immature. I’ve got to say something!
September 17, 2008 @ 2:58 pm
vee said,
September 17, 2008 @ 7:37 am
Maibatsu_thunder is right. My first Japanese car (a 2nd gen Honda City) is quite a disappointing car for the money paid. Sure, it is the best Japanese option in the market at the time I bought it but for RM89k OTR, I cannot see where my money went.
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i dont think the honda city is a jap made car. a jap made car is the corolla for certain corolla markets, accord euro, previous and current mazda’s 2,3,6, swift and lexus ranges. a test of a good worksmanship is in how well they age as compared to how well the test drive is when they are new. these are the defacto standard of a good quality workmanship which even euro marques need to aspire to (apart from porsche…hehe).
i will test drive a hyundai i30 in 3-4 years time to see if thier euro design/build holds up to what they claim.
September 17, 2008 @ 8:26 pm
not bad, the interior is a bit cheap looking, but overall the car looks ok, even the specs are acceptable….
September 17, 2008 @ 11:42 pm
Maibatsu_Thunder..gua caya sama lu..
my first car is the legendary Alfa Romeo Alfetta, then Alfa 75, then 155, then 145 cloverleaf, then 156, now my missus driving the Brera..
for a petrolhead like me who always drive continental..suddenly switching to a Korean brand must be a hell of a joke but here is my 2 ringgit worth of thoughts..
i did homeworks and research before hand, test drive..not fell in love at the first sight..people here bashing the brand and the model without really seeing the inner beauty of the car.
everybody here does have their own opinion and i respect that. Whatever they say and might say..Carens/Rondo is my best option against other MPV in terms of value for money, good family car and the list goes on. Tepuk dada tanya selera right?
September 17, 2008 @ 11:50 pm
Let’s put his way la..
I drive up to KL once a month from SG visiting my parents. For those who already drove Rondo and still can’t figure out about the car can drive mine for more laps at no extra charge.
anyway, KIA Singapore is in the midst of bringing in KIA C’eed and Proc’eed..much rave about it and people thought it’s better than VW Golf!!
September 17, 2008 @ 11:51 pm
Let’s put this way la..
I drive up to KL once a month from SG visiting my parents. For those who already drove Rondo and still can’t figure out about the car can drive mine for more laps at no extra charge.
anyway, KIA Singapore is in the midst of bringing in KIA C’eed and Proc’eed..much rave about it and people thought it’s better than VW Golf!!t
September 18, 2008 @ 9:17 am
Well, after reading up on all these frankly unnecessary bashing, I went out and test drove the car.
Not bad, but Naza’s build quality has improved but there is still quite a lot of work left to do.
Engine/drivetrain
Its not its best point. Its still a heavy car, and the 145hp/189nm it generates wont let you have any notions of performance. It gets from A-B. The 4 speed Automatic is smooth but very slow to kickdown, when it does, it goes down to 1st and with that, a racket. Manual mode helps, but its still a delay in shifting. Perhaps the car is still new having only some 250kms on it. Perhaps loosing up will help in the power department after a few Ks.
Fuel consumption from the onboard computer shows 13.2/100km, may seem appallingly poor, but then again, in the context of it being still very new, and its been whacked by every test drive its been on, its not that bad.
Chassis
Its an MPV, and if driven like an MPV, it wont dissapoint you. If you manhandle it like a sports car, you’ll end up with a car load of sick passengers. It is quite well sound insulated. Ride is quiet and fairly well damped. Only the large pot holes will send shudders through the body
Brakes
Not bad in actual stopping power, but i didn’t like how the brakes only start to bite 2/3 the way down. Its less than convincing and mushy feel that probaby needs some getting used to.
Utility
Space up front is good, and the second row passangers wont really complain although those generous in the lateral area will find it tight sitting 3 abreast. Rear seats are reserved solely for kids, or cute furry animals. Seats fold down flat which is useful if you need to ferry large square boxes. As usual, the spare is a spacesaver, and is mounted on the bottom of the rear chassis.
Build quality
The interior is not as bad as some of you say it is. Yes, its all HARD plastic and shows obvious cost cutting, but not unlike what its competitors are doing. Seams can be better, and finishing can be better (some unfiled sharp edges). the test car I drove has an annoying buzz comeing out of the engine bay which sounded like what is probably a badly put together/loose exhaust heat shield, at over 4000rpm.
But then the base model (well its NOT that BASE) is about 84k with insurance, so its not entirely a bad deal, the almost equivalent 1.8L Grand Livina is 10k more.
Will I by one?
Tempted, but the time is not right. With the Proton MPV launchign next year and Perodua MPV rumoured, it might pay to wait for another year for this current 2 horse race to be more fun. Perhaps hoping, that there might be a more attractive accesory package (free tint, cruise control, etc) once competition gets hotter.
September 18, 2008 @ 10:25 am
Good review! I want to take some time off maybe this weekend and head over with some friends to do an in-depth test. I didn’t have time when I went over earlier to see it. The FC can be reset by pushing the trip button for a longer period, then you can drive and monitor your own driving FC. The one you noticed was probably an average of a lot of idling, traffic jam, etc. Highway and combined highway/urban should be better.
September 18, 2008 @ 5:02 pm
Fair review. The Livina is actually RM12.5k more and it offers a lot less than the Rondo.
I am 5 ft 10″ and I find the 3rd row very acceptable (you have to move the 2nd row forwards though not that does not mean that the 2nd row passengers will suffer). In fact, it offers more space than the 3rd row of the Livina, the Santa Fe, and the Mazda 5. Only the Chevrolet Captiva has more space in the 3rd row.
I am expecting a realistic FC of 11-12l/100km in mixed driving given the weight of the car. Korean cars are heavier than their Japanese counterparts and this does not help FC.
September 18, 2008 @ 8:14 pm
hmm…..korean cars not good was history for now as new models are out. japanese cars better, really don’t know cause i owned few and it need repairs. toyota engine oil leaks everywhere and so does my nissan. even my friends’ hondas. continental cars also hv problems. hence all cars need maintenance and cares. it all depends on how drivers using the cars. if wanna buy a car now, depends on budgets……got 90k this is the one. better still with 100k with more choices. and this is an MPV anyway. and i like this car after i saw it.
alfa romeo is nice car but i prefer BMW still. rear wheel drive is prefer…..i can drift it. hahaha..
September 18, 2008 @ 10:36 pm
See guys…few of us have really took the pain testing the car and the write up is detailed.
As i have said, don’t put the condemnation towards something that you don’t know, not sure, 50/50 because thrashing and bashing proved useless and such a waste of time.
Make a concrete judgment only after you have done the test drive, browsing the net etc etc.
Give Korean car “some face” lah, otherwise they are not the 5th largest automaker now in the world.Ermmm, where is Proton anyway?
September 19, 2008 @ 8:50 am
Thank God, at last more mature comments from forumers. Anyone know the Citra II kerb weight? In SG 2/0 model has little over than 1510kg. In UK KIa website 1681kg. Malaysia’s NAZA too shy to reveal Citra II weight.
September 19, 2008 @ 11:37 am
My guess is somewhere about 1500kgs.. It feels heavy. It feels heavy trying to accelerate, trying to slow down and in the corners. This also probably doesn’t do it any favours in the FC department.
On paper the engine output isn’t bad, but probably underpowered for this chassis. In North America the 2.7L V6 is the optional engine.
Come to think of it, isn’t this the only 5star NCAP vehicle in this price class?
Lets hope that when I’m in the market for an MPV next year, they would have improved on its build quality….
September 19, 2008 @ 11:44 am
Let me put it this way,
Its an 85% car.
Could use 15% more power, brakes could use 15% more feel and bite, fit and finish could be 15%, build quality could use 15% less loose bits and pieces….especially those that make buzzing sounds…)
(But someone would say, it is 80% of the price of its competitors……perhaps you get what you pay for)
I’ll give this to it though, it actually rides quieter than our 2005 2.0L Accord
September 19, 2008 @ 11:57 am
http://carshowroom.autotrader.com.au/forge/data_entry?tp=Prod&category=Vehicle%20Specifications&temp_type=detail&from=man&style_id=758740320080418
Based on the Australian website, it claims a fuel efficiency of 8.6L/100 km which is quite good for a MPV or even a car that weights 1,597 kgs. Even runs on Ron 91, so it can use ron 92 which is cheaper.
Can’t wait to see actual users posting their mileage.
September 19, 2008 @ 5:17 pm
ewhjy do they have to badge it a naza, i hate naza, stupid sm “i love saddistic machoistic” nasimuddin, bloody ap king
September 19, 2008 @ 9:40 pm
Taken from Moto Trader, those who intend to test the car, please confirm / inform Naza of this:
“Since we are talking about cons, here’s my biggest one. The 2nd row seats have been split the wrong way. Currently it is suited for the LHD market. The 1/3 split is on the right (when it should be on the left for us) and the RHS seat is the only one equipped with a “one-action” release for slide and recline. The LHS 2/3 seat does not come with the “one-action” release. I do not if this is because Naza did not have time/money to get it done or all Rondos worldwide are like this.”
http://www.motortrader.com.my/asp/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=29509&whichpage=2
September 20, 2008 @ 8:44 am
Yes, I can confirm it. The 1/3 split is on the RHS of the car.
September 20, 2008 @ 8:44 am
Not that substantial like in the case of Mini Clubman suicide door (really benefit LHD) driving only.
So far, weight is Rondo major disadvantage.
September 20, 2008 @ 12:07 pm
Here are some figures to compare:
RM88,888 OTR KIA RONDO
2.0L DOHC CVVT
145PS@6,000
189Nm@4,250
16″ Alloys
LWH: 4545 x 1800 x 1720
WEIGHT: 1597kg
RM149,800 OTR HONDA STREAM
1.8L SOHC i-VTEC
140PS@6,300
174Nm@4,300
15″ Alloys
LWH: 4570 x 1695 x 1545
WEIGHT: 1385kg
RM156,895 OTR TOYOTA WISH
2.0L DOHC VVT-i
150PS@6000
192Nm@4000
15″ Alloys
LWH: 4560 x 1745 x 1600
WEIGHT: 1410kg
September 20, 2008 @ 9:52 pm
When I took in this car in Korea, I felt it’s much bigger and than citra and cozy.
I think it’s better than Nissan GrandLivina at least in perfomance and price.
September 22, 2008 @ 2:39 pm
the more i look at it, the more ugly it looks especially the exterior…hmm i’m getting a bad eyesight?? no shit la..
September 24, 2008 @ 9:13 am
This is the good car. I have seen this car in us and europe. With that price it is value for money la. Those guy who want to buy livina please consider this rondo. Spec.,price and design is more better than livina. My friend said livina just design for china and indon market + latest malaysia. Thats why the design is wierd. Try to match with murano to attract market and in japan there is no livina also for toyota product innova, avanza and vios.
February 25, 2009 @ 9:56 pm
saya dah mcuba byk kereta sebelum ni.tp ternyata citra rondo menarik hati sy.bnyk kelebihannya berbnding kereta lain.minyak juga tak begitu mahal.ruang yg luas begitu selesa.byk faktor keselamatan “5 star safety.”cubalah…ada berani?x rugi punya.
March 4, 2009 @ 10:33 am
Korean car looks really ugly.
March 7, 2009 @ 10:09 pm
Salamander
may be you drove kancil and dont have money to buy else
March 15, 2009 @ 8:00 pm
wow..145 hp? quite good. lets have it
March 24, 2009 @ 7:13 pm
citra upgrdngs..thts why its calld citraII rondo.every cars have advtges n dadvtges,up 2 individually taste bud
April 11, 2009 @ 7:43 pm
Just come back from Naza showroom..at first wanted to buy harrier but when i saw this car,changed my mind already..shud buy this car lor, very cheap price n d/payment. Duit balance can be used for Europe/USA tour..huhu..syiok
May 6, 2009 @ 7:56 am
Anyone have comment on toyota innova?
May 10, 2009 @ 12:31 am
Rondo memang bagus.Saya dah pakai.Minyak menjimatkan drpd citra.Pick up bagus,naik bukit wish pun tercicir……Interior sgt menarik.Ruang yg luas,sesuai utk keluarga dan nk balik kampung sgt selesa.Yang aku tk puas hati interior exora mcm rondo laaaaaaaa.Anyway sesiapa nk rasa kelainan dr segi pemanduan dan keselesaan pilih la Rondo……’The power to surprise’…..Bravo Rondo….
May 23, 2009 @ 11:17 pm
Ada tak tanda-tanda atau khabar yang mengatakan rondo akan turun harga sama macam citra 1 dan nazaria.
May 23, 2009 @ 11:48 pm
Ada tanda-tanda rondo akan turun harga tak?
May 23, 2009 @ 11:51 pm
i’ve been offered to have rondo imported spec with full body kid and tinted, ok ka?
May 25, 2009 @ 5:57 pm
bagi saya rondo ada gaya, masih fresh kat malaysio, introduced 2008. iklan dia tak kurang dari segi spec ngan oversea market. engin 2.0L sesuai kat malaysio, minyak kita mahal lo. rondo nama sama macam di us kot, jadi seat dia design macam lhd tang secong row “one action release/recliner” kat sebelah kanan.
masuk 2009 tak sampai setahun umor dah tukar specification, ada nampak roof rack (model exs) beza dari model tahun lepas dan beberapa storage slot kat dalam dah di kurangkan. harga dia tetap tak kurang walaupun beberapa bahagian dah berkurangan.
cuba banding “value for money” tak berpihak kat customer like us. jangan harap , what you see is not what you will get. RM88,888 nothing else but “full spec” for our market at least? My rondo exs came without adjustable roof rack, no drawer under passenger front seat, no third quarter strorage slot with cover (actually without cover), ever wonder if that second row seat only goe split back rest but the seat is one straight bench? how are people in the row seat got in/out without the second row seat vacant to allow the sliding action?
war-war all the conveniences that seems like only a dream, beware before you decide…
May 28, 2009 @ 7:20 pm
I’ve been checking out on ROndo since its appearence in 2008. I thot of buying one, after all the good review – local and international – about fc, HP, nvc etc. Today found out the 2nd row seat on 2009 model cannot split like the 2008 one. i.e. you have to slide the whole 2nd row seat forward to allow people to get into the rear seats. Now, if my 60 year old mother and my 70 y.o mother in law are seating in the second row, how on earth am I going to slide the 2nd row seat to let my teenage children in? I think the Naza ‘pomen’ (don’t call them engineer on this one) were not thinking at all when they decided on this. I am sooo disappointed. I’ll delay my purchase until Naza sort this out. All of you potential buyers please do the same; no way you can slide the whole of the middle row – especially if you are tiny like me. I think Naza had just shot their own feet big time!
June 6, 2009 @ 10:44 am
hello all. thanks for all your reviews. i have test driven the rondo and remained undecided. then i browsed paultan.org and am now 95% convinced of my decision. see the price for a “local” status rondo is a bit on the high side. But in comparing with the other japanese imports my arguments would at best be ridiculous. comments from maibatsu thunder,4G63T DSM,alfetta,asag,ingolstadt said -
proves helpful. But all in all, every comments complements the other some sorts. The equipment on the rondo is a bit on the cut-cost side trimmings. They should give sunroof I think. Any how, I am buying the rondo for its built quality – and yes, cheap price factor among its Japanese peers. but what actually wins me over is the very comprehensive active safety equipments and safety value of the rondo. the japanese at that price range dont even come close – not even proton with the base line exora. If only the exora comes in a 1.8. anyway thank you all.
June 17, 2009 @ 12:36 pm
maaf exora , hanya disebabkan engin 1.6 tak jadi beli .. dah masuk load utk RONDO yeahhhhh
June 17, 2009 @ 12:37 pm
1.6 SAD BUT TRUE
June 17, 2009 @ 8:27 pm
awak ni siapa sebenarnya
June 17, 2009 @ 9:39 pm
rondo d’best
June 17, 2009 @ 9:40 pm
awak jgn nok sibok
June 17, 2009 @ 11:34 pm
ramai cerita tentang design & minyak
1. tentang design, design tu dah worldwide la bro US pun top… lu kalau pakai seluar levis tak yah nak cakap ttg design la bro..bab design jgn nak komen lu sapa haaaaaaa…. (minimalis concept)
2. minyak la pulok 2.0 dah kira ok kalu 17sen per kilo macam wira1.6 la jugok
tok soh paka keta klu tok leh bayar feul fuel
June 30, 2009 @ 4:17 am
Lampu depan sebijik macam CRV 2nd generation ..ok what …tak de plak org kutuk CRV dulu ..Honda ma… very reliable can last for 100 yrs
July 11, 2009 @ 7:56 pm
saiful
Hv u book ur car yet and mind sharing whats the deal u get as i m
in the midst of getting an Mpv and rondo is in my list now and i had test driven and i am almost 100% firm..
July 12, 2009 @ 4:12 pm
Semalam dah kali ke 2 saya tengok RONDO, sebelum tu saya ada tengok exora. Sebenarnya bukan saya anti kereta buatan M’sia, tapi tu la hakikatnya, kualiti dan keselamatan adlh perkara utama yang saya pentingkan.
Sebab saya minat RONDO
1) RONDO 2.0, so mmg pickup dan laju, kalau orang ramai n barang berat, so x masalah.
2) Dari segi kslmtn, RONDO kiri dan kanan pintu ada lapisan tambahan besi, so kalau kena langgar, xla kemik dan membahayakan. Dan kalau berlanggar dari hadapan terlalu kuat, enjin RONDO secara automatik akan jatuh kebawah, so enjin x rosak.
3) RONDO x pakai timing belt, dia pakai timing chain, so x risau langsung kalau timing belt putus.
5) BODY – nampak kukuh dan kuat
6) Dari segi harga – saya rasa berpatutan sebab kualiti bagus
saya dah pakai kereta kia sephia, so saya tau kualiti kereta buatan korea.
July 16, 2009 @ 12:04 pm
last week i test driven RONDO not bad.. i book WISH but after i
see this RONDO it change my mind. So guys, can u share with me
RONDO performance and oil consumption.
July 17, 2009 @ 11:46 pm
Baru2 pi kajang, saja pi pi ngan Rondo baru aku. Nak Try minyak n all the thing.
Aku pun buat macam bawa kereta k’jaan. Paka i log book. At last bila dah balik mai SP. Kira-kira minyak dapat la RM0.17. Kira ok la. Tapi itu kira normal speed la 100 – 110km/j. Kalau speed lagi mau tak dapat macam tu. My conclusion, kira Rondo ni jimat jugak la bandingkan dgn Citra 1. Dan yang lebih penting kangan bawa laju, bukan saja menjimatkan malah selamat perjalanan, relak je bawa tak kalut sgt.
July 17, 2009 @ 11:48 pm
Hari ni pi service Kena RM480.00. Hangpa kira ok ka dak? ( it ok or not with that amount)
July 18, 2009 @ 3:41 pm
Just test drive Proton MPV and Naza Rondo, in Northern Sarawak the lower spect . Cost RM87K vs Proton MPV RM78K approx. so about 10K different in price.Proton acceleration rather poor as compared to Rondo (not surprising due to 400cc different in spect.) Handling and comfort is surprisingly better in the Proton. Proton internally, much bigger right to the rear compartment .Design for a Proton, it will look much more better in solid colors while the Rondo looks better in the darker M Grey color while internal design goes to the Rondo not great but better . Verdict. If you have more money go for the Rondo but if you’re a bit short on M & don’t like speed than Proton MPV is for you . Anyway, to me Malaysian cars are still more expensive as compared to SEA countries like Brunei & Indonesia , Thanks to our National cars. Before Proton BMWs 3 series in 1980 cost only RM30K and FIAT Special T cost only RM12 K . How much is a BMW 3 series cost ? . If you wish to have a brand new MPV foreign assemble quality in Malaysia car then RONDO is the cheapest in Malaysia for a 2 cylinder. K
July 19, 2009 @ 2:31 am
api,
Tolong share sikit apa yg di service,tukar,mileage,kat mana ,kurang2 dpt lah idea sikit dan aku nak prepare bila masa sampai nanti..
masih…
hehe mcm alleycat pula..
July 20, 2009 @ 10:29 pm
Hi! Anyone know how many years of warranty Naza Kia is offering ??? It will be good if Kia can offer 5 years warranty and stictly on replacement basis instead of repair ..which can last upto more than 2 weeks to resolve….
I understand that Hundyai is offering 5 yrs warranty now … true ?
Proton is doing the same thing as well…. For a branch that not strong of its built quality ..one way to overcome is to offer extended warranty ..at least to compromise the cost of repairing it ..
Anone have something tosay about Hundyai Starex besides the vast diff in price !!
July 22, 2009 @ 8:31 am
I am thinking of upgrading from Proton Persona to Naza Rondo. But scared of the Naza Rondo whether it would last. My previous car Hyundai Atos, a Korean car only after 2 years had gear box problem and it cost Rm4000 to change the gear box. Somemore the Hyundai gear box is new but a reconditioned one. A friend suggested that a Grand Livina is a better sure guarantee car than Naza Rondo where you won’t find any problem with Grand Livina. Naza Rondo is a beautiful car but I still have my doubts about this car?
July 28, 2009 @ 8:59 am
these are questions I need answers.
1) Does the car has resale value?
2) Is the spare part expensive?
3) Is the spare easily available?
4) How much does it cost to service this car? Is it expensive?
5) In case if the car has any problem like gear box problem..etc, how fast does Naza attend to the claim?
August 2, 2009 @ 7:47 am
i also going to buy rondo , now just wait for any offer for hari raya , i try rondo , livina ,exora , only the rondo let me feel it is a value for money,low price , high safety , powerful performance,comfort driving .
August 12, 2009 @ 4:00 pm
emph ramai tak yakin dgn naza
dan tak puas dgn exora
juga tak mampu
August 13, 2009 @ 3:46 pm
Saya dah menggunakan Rondo dari Januari 2009. Dari segi power memanglebih dari Exora. Dari segi finishing, Rondo lagi bagus. Kalau nak yang lebih murah Exora pun ok juga.
August 16, 2009 @ 4:45 pm
Saya memang cukup berkenan dgn Rondo nih. Setelah diteliti, after sale service amat mendukacitakan dan ini membuatkan saya fikir dan fikir lagi dan lagi…!!
August 18, 2009 @ 9:06 pm
Aku sudah pun memiliki rondo sebulan yang lepas.Setakat ini ia tidak mengecewakan dan amat berpuas hati dengan CUV ini.Dah pun bawak rondo ni merayau sampai ke pontian,balik kampung bini hehe.Enjin yang cukup power.Masa kat highway aku lenjan PLUS sampai 170km/j dan rasa masih boleh blah lagi.Dari segi space compare dgn livina,rondo jauh lebih luas.Finishing pun cantik tidak seperti Cherry,mcm plastik murahan jer dia punya interior.
August 18, 2009 @ 10:03 pm
The sale of rondo equally worst like estar..hardly see them on the road….
What happen after 5 yrs ? Would they end up like an extinct species…how we look at Proton Tiara ..Proton Juara….today…. expensive parts due to limited number in the market …same thing to Proton Savy..now selling at deep discount for the new one ..which could have far reaching impact on the existing model whom purchased at earlier stage with muhc higher price… rugi lah.. Likewise…Naza Citra … selling at RM70K sebiji… down from dulu RM85K +….Thank God..there are many im the market ..one of the best selling model of Naza Kia ..not becoz of its quality …bcoz of its cheapest price in the market ! …So..cn we exepct Rondo price to come down very soon so that it can take over the Citra ..then we will see lots of Rondo on the Road
August 29, 2009 @ 2:19 pm
saya berminat dgn naza rondo nih. tapi nape aaa,berbanding exora, rondo nie susah sgt nampak atas jln,rondo ni x ok ke?. exora skang nie dah bersepah2 atas jln. nape aaa??? prestasi rondo ni cmne,ok tak,minyak kuat tak? mana tau baru 2 bln beli dah rosak macam2. so,kwn2 yg tau tlg info saya pasal rondo nie.
August 29, 2009 @ 2:21 pm
kenapa rondo? bahasa endon, rondo tu bermaksud janda. kalo malaysia rondo tu apa?
September 5, 2009 @ 11:52 pm
Naza Rondo utk dijual. RM 78K. Tinted, spoiler, Fender & lips siap pasang. Kalau nak boleh chat kat sini.
September 6, 2009 @ 4:11 pm
apit said, kenapa nak jual? ada masalah ke. esok saya nak booking rondo baru
September 7, 2009 @ 12:08 am
Tak der masalah, saje nak jual. Rasanya cari aset lain. Awak nak booking yg baru ka? Second had tak nak, ok lagi.
September 7, 2009 @ 12:16 am
Saja nak jual, sbnrnya tak der masalah. Compare dgn lain2 mpv, rasanya bawak rondo ni mantap. Minyak pun kira ok gak, leh dapat dlm 0.17/km. Safety mmg firt class. U nak book baru ke, second hand tak nak?
September 7, 2009 @ 9:10 pm
Nak book baru le ingat. Sekarang pakai wira 1.5 2002. aeroback (M). Nak yg luas sikit. Risau jugak saudara nak jual.Nak beli tanah kot hehe……bukan apa takut tersilap buat keputusan. apa pun t.kasih respon
September 7, 2009 @ 9:18 pm
nak jual berapa..tahun bila
September 7, 2009 @ 11:18 pm
RM78k, September 2008. Baru lagi!
September 9, 2009 @ 9:47 am
yang full spec ke ni?????
September 9, 2009 @ 11:17 pm
Ya, full spec. Kalau baru RM88.888 la.
September 14, 2009 @ 4:14 pm
hi….apit said. u nyer rondo dah ada org book ke? Aku pun interested gak kat rondo ni. Leh aku tau rondo engko warna apa?
September 14, 2009 @ 4:19 pm
Satu lg bro apit, bape milage engko?
September 22, 2009 @ 11:06 pm
I have been driving Rondo for almost 2 months, so far so good. It’s a good 7-seater cruiser with adequate HP and torque offered by its GEMA engine under the hood. Berbaloi if get this car as a weekend family car.
September 23, 2009 @ 12:38 am
Saya beraya dengan Rondo… Setakat ni puashati.dan memang minyak ok. sebelum beli rondo risau sangat dengan cakap2 org, rondo teruk makan minyak. Pemanduan memang selesa dan pickup melangkaui jangkaan
September 23, 2009 @ 1:28 pm
Rondo… so far so good, but first service cost RM326…wow. need to get more part time job..
September 30, 2009 @ 2:20 pm
Hi everybody,
Read all about Rondo but still undecided on which MPV to buy, GL or Rondo.
Tested both, my hearts is with Rondo but my mine is with GL.
Is it costly to maintain Rondo? What about spareparts is costly too.
Any one pls help.
October 3, 2009 @ 9:02 pm
Hari ni pegi servis Ronda- 1000km. RM291.00. Next servis 6 bulan lagi..ok tu. kalau bahagi 6 bulan x berapa ringgit pun. Berbaloi…..dapat hadiah lagi.
October 9, 2009 @ 12:34 pm
New citra ronda is good BUT the 2005 citra the aircond is useless coz dont feel cold
October 21, 2009 @ 10:50 pm
Basically m quite satisfy wit tis car… In fact I gt 1 2day… Korean car, Japanse car or local car… I thk all aso d same… No 1 is perfect in tis world… All hav advantage & disadvantage…
October 22, 2009 @ 4:02 pm
hi, korang tahu tak mana nak cari body kit rondo kat area Johor JB
October 23, 2009 @ 8:13 pm
bro said saya nak tanya suspension ok ke tak
October 23, 2009 @ 8:25 pm
salam sis rozie saya nak tanya semenjak pakai rondo ada kelebihan tak dgn kereta malaysia