Kia Forte here in Malaysia: amazing value for money
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The gorgeous new Kia Forte is now in Malaysia, or at least in the official sense after its launch at the Pavilion KL which will happen later this evening. We’ve already seen the Kia Forte on Malaysian roads as early as May this year when it was spotted in Shah Alam with JPJ plates.
The Forte is pretty much a game changer for Kia, but this ‘renaissance’ did not start with the Forte. Personally for me from a consumer point of view, the first Kia that I had a desire to consider as a daily driver was the Kia Optima. The Optima was just chock full of equipment, including a very nice Infinity surround sound system. It also had a very nice black interior with aluminium trim all over. The Optima’s 2.0 liter engine based on the GEMA platform was nice and spritely, and the car’s road behaviour didn’t fall short either. The only thing that I could complain about was the rather drab exterior looks.
But the Forte has been the first Kia that had emotional appeal – it has a really good design – something that you would look forward to being parked in your driveway every morning. The Koup is even better. It has such a sporty stance and looks good even in a boring silver colour, as seen in South Korea earlier this year (read my short test drive report).
Three models will be available, the 1.6 EX, the 1.6 SX and the 2.0 SX. The cheapest variant is the EX, priced at RM75,800 OTR, while the SX goes for RM81,800 for the 1.6 liter model and RM93,800 for the 2.0 liter model. Just as a comparison, the i30 goes for a much more expensive price, between RM92,388 for the basic 1.6 manual up to RM112,888 for the 2.0 liter automatic. The Elantra/Avante (which you could consider the Hyundai equivalent to the Forte) goes for RM95,301.80 and that’s without OTR costs. So the Forte has actually got very good competitive pricing. It’s a C-segment sedan (Civic, Lancer, etc) but no doubt alot of people will be cross-shopping between Japanese B-segment cars and the Forte.
Like its price indicates, the 2.0 SX is the range topping version. The 2.0 liter engine that you get is of the newer GEMA type that’s also found in the Optima. The Mitsubishi Lancer’s 2.0 liter engine is also derived from the GEMA project. Kia calls theirs the Theta engine. It is not the latest version with the 165 PS rating though, due to the fact that the engine is the version with single variable valve timing. The 165 PS engine has dual variable valve timing on both the intake and exhaust.
The 2.0 liter engine makes 156 PS at 6,200rpm and 194.2Nm of torque at 4,200rpm. The 1.6 liter engine is from the Gamma family (not to be confused with GEMA) and produces 126 PS at 6,300rpm and 157Nm of torque at 4,200rpm.
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The 2.0 is chock full of equipment (you can refer to the full specs table I’ve put above) but let me give you a list in one breath. You get disc brakes all-round, driver, passenger, side and curtain airbags (a total of 6), ABS brakes, a black interior, a metal-look for the dash fascia, a Supervision cluster (Kia’s version of Optitron), leather-wrapped 3-spoke steering, electric power steering (the 1.6 liter models get the hydraulic version), tilt and telescopic steering column adjustment, steering wheel audio, keyless entry and ignition (yes, a start button), full auto climate control air cond, leather seats, active headrests, 17 inch wheels wrapped with 215/45R17 tyres, a 4 sensor reverse sensor with a distance display on the multi-info trip computer display (no need to just listen to the beeps), electrically-adjustable heated wing mirrors, etc.
Even with the 1.6 SX, you still get stability control, although the airbag count has dropped to 2 for the driver and passenger. The baseline 1.6 EX model has steel wheels but it is not extremely ‘baseline’ to the fact that there are no safety features – there is still 2 airbags, and all three models have ABS anti-lock brakes.
The Forte 2.0 SX is the only sedan you can get under RM100,000 with 6 airbags and ESC stability control. It’s price versus equipment value beats even that other C-segment vehicle under the Naza stables, the Peugeot 308, but the 308 has that fantastic BMW-PSA Prince direct injection turbo engine of course.
The Forte will be available in 6 colours – Bright Silver, Metal Bronze, Ebony Black, Titanium Silver, Spicy Red, and Clear White. We will have another report coming later tonight with coverage from the Forte’s launch in Pavilion, so stay tuned.
November 25, 2009 @ 2:49 pm
nice..dunno bout resale value though
November 25, 2009 @ 2:52 pm
will the second hand value obed out just like other Korean makes?
November 25, 2009 @ 2:53 pm
Hmmm…I might buy one of this. Let see now…. 75K….hmmm
November 25, 2009 @ 2:54 pm
again…will the second hand value bombed out just like other Korean makes?
November 25, 2009 @ 2:54 pm
whoaa damn.
really nice car la.
my sister has the new honda city, and dont u think this car looks alike like the new honda city?
the front lamps and grill?
but damn, this is a really really really nice car.
where in the market can u get a 2.0 litre car less than 100k with 6AIRBAGS AND PUSH START ENGINE BUTTON?
Damn la…
I wish i had this car..
But this has to depend on our malaysian mentality also.
Some will say aiyo naza/kia not good la and all that.
But in U.S.A this KIA is damn famous especially the KIA SOUL
Haih i wish i had one of this FORTE to drive to college. hehe
November 25, 2009 @ 2:55 pm
hmmm…. look temting, but why look almost city at front & BMW at the back ?.
November 25, 2009 @ 2:56 pm
wow……:-)
November 25, 2009 @ 2:56 pm
again…will the second hand value bombed out just like other Korean makes after 1 or 2 years?
November 25, 2009 @ 3:05 pm
Nice…lock stock and barrel. Fully loaded with toys and cheaper than other makes but yet again, resale value la.. iam sure not everyone will want to end up driving a Kia as they get older. Btw my neighbour traded a Kia Optima for a Chery eastar. Must have lost a bit of value on the Optima. So Naza have to really do something about it….
November 25, 2009 @ 3:06 pm
If wanna get good 2nd hand resale value, go for BMW la.
What you expect the answer from here ? Maybe you buy one and post your answer here after 2 years, then we will have an answer.
Nice car btw.
November 25, 2009 @ 3:08 pm
According to this brochure (uploaded on this paultan website), i think the Rear Parking Assist System on the instrument panel is assisted in terms of calculation of distance to rear obstruction unlike the ones in Singapore that has a reverse camera (for the 2.0 only), which the reverse camera screen is located at the centre console clock.
Then again, the Naza badge says it all. I wonder is it okay to replace the exterior’s badge from Naza to Kia just like most Naza Bestari 206 did.
Korean cars in Malaysia still have the same problem; poor resale value. But, it looks good and reasonable for the price you pay and the feature you’ll get.
November 25, 2009 @ 3:08 pm
If it gets a really stunning respond from the customers, then the 2nd hand value I believe will be not as bad as we think. High demand car usually got good 2nd hand value.
November 25, 2009 @ 3:10 pm
hmmm. went to the showroom last nite.. not bad just wondering if parking got problems since a bit longer and heavier than city….
as for resale, the sales agent told me to wait until next quarter to know the resale value…so those who want to buy, wait for a little while.
btw, think the first batch is CBU, the next batch will be CKDed…….
still thinking if this one or Suzuki will be the choice…….kinda fed up with the Ts and the Hs…
November 25, 2009 @ 3:16 pm
wow…loves it..
Hmmm..just asking,why always price of korean cars drop down too much when it become a 2nd hand car.
Let we see for a year for this forte value after a year:)
November 25, 2009 @ 3:19 pm
it had an advertisement on the star…look closely and noticed that it carried the
November 25, 2009 @ 3:19 pm
CKD or CBU? If CBU, where assembled?
November 25, 2009 @ 3:20 pm
pictures please!!!
November 25, 2009 @ 3:22 pm
But this nice car carried the SILLY, UGLY CRAP …….NAZA badge…wtf is that…
Please retain KIA badge, stupid NAZA….this will stop many buying this car….
The NAZA badge embrassed this nice car totally and this is SHAME….
November 25, 2009 @ 3:23 pm
When the demand to this car increases. Then the resale value would jackup. Looking at the Forte package, it seems like the resale value will not go out of place just like how previous Spectra did.
November 25, 2009 @ 3:24 pm
I just came back from the showroom. The 2.0 model wasn’t there but i was quite impressed even with the 1.6sx model. The loan can be extended to 15 years with monthly payment of below than RM500 (if u want to keep paying the interest that long). Spicy red is a very nice colour indeed for this design but i haven’t seen the blue one. The boot size is huge with the capital H and the legroom at the back seat is at least 3 times longer than that of Mazda3 sport. The keyless entry and ignition is really cool!.
Beside the brand name, i don’t know what are the downsides of this car. Not sure how does it feels driving it. Maybe I have to test drive it someday… the 2.0 version of course.
Honestly, it looks really really nice.
November 25, 2009 @ 3:24 pm
Anybody can tell me why Korean cars 2nd hand value drops so much? I mean cars like Rio is really nice so why the drastic drop in resale value?
I don’t get it. Is it a Japanese syndicate working here to pull up the price of Jap makes?
November 25, 2009 @ 3:25 pm
fuel consumption @ 100km = 7liter
0-100km = 12sec
how can these be true for 1.6 and 2.0 models???
1.6 would likely take 12 sec to reach 100 but a 2.0 takes 12 secs, doesnt make any sense…
:S
November 25, 2009 @ 3:26 pm
If it’s good, dun sell it.. so, no issue of 2nd hand value..
Or, if concern so much on 2nd hand value, buy the Ts & Hs..
November 25, 2009 @ 3:28 pm
dog: the 12 seconds figure is for the 1.6 liter models only. note towards the right (in the specs sheet i have included provided by naza kia on their forte website), the black dot is only for the 1.6 liter models while the 2.0 liter has a dash instead. no figure for the 2.0 as of now… will do some digging.
November 25, 2009 @ 3:31 pm
wow. it is surely a very nice car. hope its really value for money. its is hard to find spare part for it rather then hyundai??
November 25, 2009 @ 3:32 pm
CBU from Korea…
1.6EX should be ok,la, just worried the fancy-fancy sensors in 1.6SX might go bonkus after some time…..
think another alternative is to wait for the WAJA replcament, …any news on that , Paul?
November 25, 2009 @ 3:38 pm
really worth every penny…push start button???traction control??..take that u snobbish T & H!!!
November 25, 2009 @ 3:40 pm
Paul, how come this Kia/Naza forte so not so expensive, any leads?
November 25, 2009 @ 3:41 pm
Hey does anybody know what is the warranty for this car? Does Kia’s new 5 year warranty apply to this car?
November 25, 2009 @ 3:41 pm
Wow.. nice and cheap… !
November 25, 2009 @ 3:41 pm
THIS IS THE MOST AFFORDABLE CAR OUT THERE THAT OFFERS VSC. OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
November 25, 2009 @ 3:42 pm
Good looks and comes with a whole bunch of stuff. Resale value aside, feels like a good buy. The Perdana replacement model will need to lower its price-tag or come up with something spectacular in order to compete with this. That or increase its capacity to around the 2.2litre range to stay relevant.
November 25, 2009 @ 3:45 pm
que….ur rite…..no issue for 2nd hand value if this forte proves itself on the road…..spread the good news and u hav more malaysians…accept this brand
November 25, 2009 @ 3:46 pm
Now days, the weighting of buying mobiles more towards look and technolgies come with them,
Then brands…
So.. Better buy City with paddle shift + 5 speed auto than Vios TRD.
But.. Better buy Forte with Start Stop + 6 Airbags + 2L engine than 1.5L City.
November 25, 2009 @ 3:47 pm
warranty – 2 years – manufacturer , extra get from insurance.
November 25, 2009 @ 3:47 pm
paul:
it is NAZA forte with NAZA logo front n rear.
but on the steering u’ll find Kia logo
1st 500 r CBU..
bootroom is spacious
November 25, 2009 @ 3:48 pm
well, if you have spare cash, Forte 2.0L is really the best buy…
November 25, 2009 @ 3:48 pm
just bought my wife a grand livina 1.8 @ RM 97,300
the 2.0 is only RM93,800
lucky we needed a MPV… else would have regreted like crazy
been waiting for this damn car to launch since January… it took a whole year for it to be launched.
but those who buy this will not regret… look at the equipment list!
all the telenovela korean on KWBS Astro are featuring this car in their show…. especially the coupe version… RED HOT!!
November 25, 2009 @ 3:54 pm
well, familyman,,can always get your wife to buy Forte for you…
November 25, 2009 @ 3:54 pm
This Forte 2.0 is better purchase compare wit brand new Perdana V6…
November 25, 2009 @ 3:57 pm
Read the review from local blog. The 1.6 SX with 17″ wheels said to be a little bit sluggish. Suggested to change to a 15″ wheels. About the NAZA emblem, someone is selling those original KIA emblem in bulk. Found it in Mudah website.
November 25, 2009 @ 3:58 pm
Thanks Paul for the coverage. Now I got something to look forward to this coming weekend. Can’t wait to see the car in real flesh!
November 25, 2009 @ 4:04 pm
Gila babi!! Tgk equipment list pon dah tercekik! Kalau resale value tak jatuh, sangat berbaloi-baloi beli menatang nih. WajaLancer, Vios, City, Swift – Mati!
November 25, 2009 @ 4:04 pm
Kia Forte or ‘Naza’ Forte?
November 25, 2009 @ 4:05 pm
Paul,
Sure it is not the Theta II with variable valve timing on BOTH intake and exhaust? I am fairly certain that the Forte comes with Theta II instead of Theta I.
November 25, 2009 @ 4:10 pm
the BRAND name is utmost important !!!!
what the hell is this nice car has the NAZA badge om it…really shame
i will not even look at it BECAUSE of the Naza badge…..PLEASE do something to retain the KIA badge like the spectra!!!!
NAZA, if you are sincere, at least supplied to all Forte owner the Original KIA badge and Steering with KIA from Korea as an OPTION…..
This is like a Flower(Forte) stick on the shit(NAZA) !!!!!!
November 25, 2009 @ 4:11 pm
Just one look, and it has to do well as it has all the ingredients to slice away a nice chunk of those B and C-segment Japanese cars that have been dominating the sales charts in Malaysia for years. Striking designs, good driving dynamics, generous equipment rosters, both comfort and safety, and last but not least, extremely competitive pricing. By the way, i truly hate those cars produced by Toyota, especially their awful Vioses and Altises, which drives like a cow, under-specced, over-priced, and not to forget, average after-sales service.
November 25, 2009 @ 4:11 pm
the BRAND name is utmost important !!!!
what the hell is this nice car has the NAZA badge om it…really shame
i will not even look at it BECAUSE of the Naza badge…..PLEASE do something to retain the KIA badge like the spectra!!!!
November 25, 2009 @ 4:12 pm
Wow.. Impressive. The car’s a real value for money. And if you’re concerned with the resale value, purchase a house instead. Cars are just not meant for you.
November 25, 2009 @ 4:13 pm
If I am going to buy this car, I will modified it for body kit, LED daylight headlamp and maybe add turbo . \
Damn I love this car.
November 25, 2009 @ 4:15 pm
Perdana V6..haihhh.. our high-end national’s car with sad safety features..:(
November 25, 2009 @ 4:16 pm
wah lau ley….. Damm kewl car guys.. hmm when will proton have its 1st push start button? zzzzzzzz
November 25, 2009 @ 4:18 pm
the price is ok…
exterior not bad…
but still got ppl drive kia nowaday?
November 25, 2009 @ 4:21 pm
Nice car!!!
I had booked in last month but recently know that 2.0SX no stock and only 1.6SX & EX available from the 1st batch…
Still pending from Naza to confirm when the 2.0SX out on road…
November 25, 2009 @ 4:22 pm
A good reason not to buy Hyundai i30 now.
November 25, 2009 @ 4:26 pm
nice car !! better than proton !!!
November 25, 2009 @ 4:27 pm
wow! great!
love this car so much!
November 25, 2009 @ 4:27 pm
If this car carry Proton badge, I will buy actually. But very unfortunate none of proton car can match this fella in terms of value for money.
I rather drive this car then civic, latio, altis, vios, city actually. One for sure, I know it value for money… full of passive and active safety, beautifully design, love the details and I don’t care about resale value as I am not changing car that often… by the time I need to change to a new car which probably around 7-8 years, any car will definitely drop their value.
November 25, 2009 @ 4:29 pm
lol at the resale valuers. You guys buying a car to drive it, or to sell it off? Jeez.
November 25, 2009 @ 4:34 pm
vee said,
November 25, 2009 @ 4:05 pm
Paul,
Sure it is not the Theta II with variable valve timing on BOTH intake and exhaust? I am fairly certain that the Forte comes with Theta II instead of Theta I.
it shows Theta II in the microsite.
156ps/ 6200 rpm of power
19.8/4200 rpm of torque
November 25, 2009 @ 4:37 pm
well, said, zul… not sure pple thinking of resale so much,,,
November 25, 2009 @ 4:40 pm
wondering if the fuel consumption 7litre/100km is achievable.
November 25, 2009 @ 4:41 pm
read somewhere that the warranty is only for two years 50k km.I think some prospective buyer who might consider this forte will be put off by such a short warranty knowing that the spare part will definitely be more expensive than the japanese marques.Yes me included, I’m not that concern with the second hand value but if i were to keep it longer… than the cost of servicing and spare part should be reasonable..
I think one of the reason why the second hand value of kia or korean cars are bad because there is a perception that the first owner was trying to get rid of his car…. for various reasons such as spare part etc hence the current dilemma.. although the same can be said to almost every other make…
November 25, 2009 @ 4:45 pm
betul tu Cynical.even aku punya toyota vios 2005 pun susah nak jual.aku nak trade in dengan forte supaya family aku selamat ada 6 airbags compare vios aku 1 airbag abs takdak ebd takdak usb port pun takdak.
November 25, 2009 @ 4:46 pm
Then, you know how overprice was P2 alza and myvi and viva..
November 25, 2009 @ 4:48 pm
FOC – Forte Owners Club. Really…they don’t think about the resale value.
November 25, 2009 @ 4:49 pm
i’m wondering how long can this car design stay relevant. Do you think in 5 years time, you will still look cool driving it?
November 25, 2009 @ 4:51 pm
sales of h city and t vios will surely be decimated if not for the malaysian mentality of worrying about resale value.
November 25, 2009 @ 4:57 pm
Paul, will Naza bring in the Koup version?
November 25, 2009 @ 4:57 pm
hmm now i’m regret ..no patient to wait little longer..
November 25, 2009 @ 5:01 pm
As i said before, we will love the price for the Kia Forte. Right now just dunno how is the actual performance of the 1.6 engine….as we all know Kia and Hyundai old engine is a pertrol drinking monster.
November 25, 2009 @ 5:04 pm
waiting for 2nd hand forte to buy….hehehe
cannot afford to buy a new one
November 25, 2009 @ 5:08 pm
i believe vios/city sales will badly hit…. luckily i am not buy the vios last month.. will book for the 1.6sx!!
who care 2nd value when you drive c-segment car on b-seg price?? after all this is msia market.. cannot blame peoples worry on 2nd hand value, but really suck why those people buy a T or H badge used car at such damm expensive?? Boleh land..
November 25, 2009 @ 5:08 pm
The dual VVT version produces 165 PS and 198Nm. This one makes less so I assumed its because of the single VVT. I will double check and update you guys tonight.
November 25, 2009 @ 5:20 pm
Only thing left for NAZA to do is to make servicing good like Honda. Parts cheap, SC nice to go to and thats it.
The NAZA website for this car is hopeless or for all KIA cars for that matter. Nothing like Honda/Proton website.
November 25, 2009 @ 5:24 pm
This is it. Forget about the resale value. If it’s good, it will last at least 10 years. I intend to buy one. Can’t wait for Paul’s detailed report. ‘In Paul We Trust’, right?
November 25, 2009 @ 5:24 pm
for us who ride KIA car..we never think about after sales value..we buy and we used it..u have many choices..u want buy car design for Asian people..u go for honda,toyota or Nissan brand..if u want buy car design for Europe people..better choose KIA…very spacious…believe or not..test it first before buy!
November 25, 2009 @ 5:25 pm
a car developing 126ps and 157Nm of torque is impressive but the 0-100 accelaration is a big let down. it should do 10.5 seconds. doing 12 seconds is a big “no-no”. even a small savvy with 75bhp can catch up with a forte.
November 25, 2009 @ 5:28 pm
I agree with kimi.
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kimi_ said,
November 25, 2009 @ 3:22 pm
But this nice car carried the SILLY, UGLY CRAP …….NAZA badge…wtf is that…
Please retain KIA badge, stupid NAZA….this will stop many buying this car….
The NAZA badge embrassed this nice car totally and this is SHAME….
November 25, 2009 @ 5:33 pm
Rumor has it this car will come with optional 5 yr / unlimited mileage warranty from Naza Kia themselves. This should improve the resale value dramatically.
November 25, 2009 @ 5:34 pm
This car is amazingly worth every single penny. Everything is good, except for its outdated 4-AT gears.
If u compare Forte 2.0 with Civic 2.0 side by side by having two (2) critical tests, i.e. Kg/HP (Weight/ Horsepower) and Kg/Nm (Weight/ Torque). The results show that Forte 2.0 is clearly a big winner. The best part is its price, i.e. +-RM 36K much cheaper than Civic 2.0. In fact, Forte 2.0 is cheaper than Civic 1.8 by +-RM 21K.
Not to mention its resale value, you can actually save the money for the petrol by pumping up to 20,000 liter of RON 97 petrol at the current RM 1.80 per liter.
It may not be apple to apple for comparison. However, Forte 1.6SX is cheaper than City 1.5E by RM 8K. What a shame for the latter for lacking of VSC or ESP. The latter can somehow can only defend by having the paddle shifts and 5-AT gears. Well….well…., VSC is a must for today’s cars which I concern at all times.
A big shame for Hyundai i30 (2.0) for its unreasonable price at RM 113K. Worst still, i30 does not come with any VSC at all.
Honestly, Forte is good chance for our rakyat to consider. To me, I will test try the car first.
November 25, 2009 @ 5:35 pm
If Malaysian didnt concern on resale value, the streets will be littered with Proton. because of the 2nd hand value (you know, I know lah tax rate Malaysia – cannot do anything one) idiot like myself bought cars cars that can be resell with minimal damage in 5 yrs time. Consider your loan at 85%, 5 to 7 yrs, after 3-4 yrs sure you want to change due to various reasaons (upgrade to MPV/SUV, anak ramai, now have maids, buy 2nd house after buying apt/condo, need cash for renovation, high running cost after warranty) so if the value drop like shit (Gen 2 buy 55K, 4 yrs now 25K, Vios buy 77K, after 4 yrs 55 to 60K, Accent buy 75K, now 4 yrs 25K) why should we contribute more to Nazir already-highest-paid-CEO another bonus or Wahid remuneration package? My name is not Bank of America you know? Ask the Citra, Ria, Spectra owners. They are cursing better than the sailors, but thanks to Nissan, they offer higher trade in values by giving hidden discounts.
(duit tak boleh petik dari langit oo, saya bukan politician)
November 25, 2009 @ 5:43 pm
marsaila said,
November 25, 2009 @ 4:49 pm
i’m wondering how long can this car design stay relevant. Do you think in 5 years time, you will still look cool driving it?
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you can answer yourself for this question… frankly driving 5yrs car is not cool whtever car u drive.. an E39? perhaps but only in Bolehland..
November 25, 2009 @ 5:44 pm
The forte developin 126ps and 157Nm of torque is impressive but the accelaration from 0-100 in 12 seconds is a big let down. they should build car with good power over weight ratio and probably do 10.5 seconds.
November 25, 2009 @ 5:44 pm
damn this car is nice, can consider especially if it is a Korean CBU. you can have the price similar to B segment but better equiped than cars of C segment. it will kill T and H brand for C segments or even B segment.
November 25, 2009 @ 5:45 pm
Sure it has all the fancy gizmos and add-ons, but do I really need all of it ? Save for the additional 4 airbags, I really don’t see the need to risk my hard-earned 75.8k on a Korean brand which has consistently failed to deliver in terms of quality and resale value in our country (I wonder who’s blame).
The 15 year loan offer put out by the dealer is really making a mockery of the ‘democracy’ in our country. In fact, I find that the existing 9 year car loan that is being offered is already beyond ludicrousness, what more 15 years.
I would strongly urge all buyers to hold on to their existing cars, wait for prices to drop further and then only upgrade. The competitive pricing by Kia offered here is certainly makes for healthy competition in our car industry, and it would be great to see other car makers following suit.
If your existing ride is fine, stick with it. Like they say, don’t fix it if its not broken. Invest in your family’s well being instead. Buy insurance for your kids, invest in your first property, bring your wife to a holiday instead.
November 25, 2009 @ 5:50 pm
if u really that worry bout resale value… buy T, H, or N brand.. period..
bout the naza badge.. i think that what makes the car cheap. u can always replace the badge with kia. heck u can even slam honda badge in front, and bmw at the back if u like. why make so much noise bout this? just because its korean and naza everything has to be perfect?
November 25, 2009 @ 5:51 pm
Not a KIA fan myself, but it seems to me that Mr Schreyer has accomplished what Chris Bangle did with BMW and Carlos Ghosn with Nissan. Its amazing what east-west collaboration does to a company, regardless of the industry. Something Proton should emulate..
That aside – I agree with Paul, its totally worth the RM and quite a handsome car at that!
November 25, 2009 @ 5:54 pm
Exactly how big is the size of the forte..?
Well, maybe bigger than vios and city…but is it same like the space-stingy like sylphy..?
Hard to tell from these pictures. U guys that went 2 showroom, pls story sikit.
November 25, 2009 @ 5:57 pm
Saw it with NAZA Badge in NAZA TTDI.
November 25, 2009 @ 5:58 pm
Will i get what i see/feel in CBU forte when CKD is out? eg. like door “THUP” sound? very nice car indeed….lotsa goodies.
November 25, 2009 @ 5:58 pm
masami said,
November 25, 2009 @ 4:41 pm
read somewhere that the warranty is only for two years 50k km.
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checked at kia.com.sg, why kia gave 5 yrs unlimited mileage warranty at Kia Singapore?? Could someone ask for extended warranty??
November 25, 2009 @ 6:04 pm
scottloeb, even nissan cars sucks when they first come out. Give credit where it’s due. Don’t just babble without making any sensible point.
November 25, 2009 @ 6:06 pm
wait for a few more months for the next batch to come, then maybe you can get 5 years – according to the Kia sales agent…..
November 25, 2009 @ 6:08 pm
Just need Naza service center to buck up… if half of the customers went in for a service (with a comparable price to H and T badge of course) and came out with a smile, this Forte sales will shoot up… and resale value will improve…
November 25, 2009 @ 6:19 pm
Now, this is a real car that I would be glad to trade my Alfa Romeo 156 for! I have been sticking with the 156 for more than a decade as it looks really good (to me at least) but the maintenance is like shite- Selespeed should have been developed by Japanese or Korean auto makes, then they would be useful at least!
Now this Forte looks charming enough and being a Korean, it should last better than an Alfa Romeo; so please point me to the nearest dealer.
November 25, 2009 @ 6:29 pm
what colors are available
November 25, 2009 @ 6:30 pm
Aku nak yg dua pintu. sekian.
November 25, 2009 @ 6:32 pm
walauweh… now i’m confuse which one to buy. peugeot 308 or forte? both damn so good!!
November 25, 2009 @ 6:32 pm
126ps = 124hp
our ’start to aging’ Campro CPS won by 1hp extra
hahahaha!
Paul. Any news from p1 Phoenix engine project?
November 25, 2009 @ 6:34 pm
I’ve received confirmation from Naza Kia that the engine is only single variable valve timing and not double.
November 25, 2009 @ 6:40 pm
paul, does that mean it is a petrol drinking monster like spectra?
November 25, 2009 @ 6:40 pm
christkt once said “please do not be overly bog-down/clouded with the resale value even before you made a purchase. If you like the car so much, factoring in the specs and your personal needs and it fulfilled your criteria of a desired car, just get it. Continue being fickle minded will get you nowhere. I bought my first car bcoz of resale value previously and around a year plus later, I’ve grown tired of it as it did not excite and fulfilled my need for a car.”
November 25, 2009 @ 6:42 pm
Thanks paul.
the 2.0 needs only 7liter/100km which is good imho.
so litterally saying it only needs about 24.5liters+ to go from kl to penang?
if this is the case, why bother with 1.6?
November 25, 2009 @ 6:42 pm
I am not a fan of Korean cars, but this Forte 2.0 is really hot man, got look, got substance, and got good price. I am speechless.
November 25, 2009 @ 6:43 pm
besides pricing though.
November 25, 2009 @ 6:44 pm
Got sunroof??? Picture is wrong?
November 25, 2009 @ 6:55 pm
75k not expensive bo… not bad at all… I’m sure this car will sell good
November 25, 2009 @ 6:58 pm
Yeah~ KIA. SUddenly a pot of water splash into my head, I’ve never notice of the Korean kia, especially, but this car equips of beauty, sporty, elegant, and full of equipment~!!! I love
I would want an National brand to have a 6 airbags. Especially the new Perodua Alza, an “MPV” without CURTAIN AIRBAG is a dangerous things to drive, and EXORA also~ They used RM 300 mil on Alza and RM 400~mil to develop a car, that is the problem to put more equipment and safety features into the baby the “born” ??? I juz don’t get it.
I’m driving a Myvi, and I’m knida dissapointed with the Alza’s size which is VERY VERY VERY Dissapointed with it.
I think I’ll persuade my brother to buy a Forte, but don’t know the KIA SERVICE is whether good or bad?
Anyone knows how’s the service fees? I don’t mind to pay more for the features. In this country PLS. abolish the STUPID BASIC CAR which without airbags, ABS EBD, BA, TCS…… THE CITIZEN DESERVES A MUCH MORE BETTER/BEAUTIFUL CAR WITH FULL OF SAFETY FEATURES LIKE—–>
KIA FORTE.
November 25, 2009 @ 7:06 pm
as much as i hate naza, they seem to be giving us proper cars(like the peugeot 308 and this forte)….until that nasty peugeot 207 made in china aka peugeot 206 overfacelift comes out
November 25, 2009 @ 7:07 pm
Perodua Alza killer….
November 25, 2009 @ 7:22 pm
This Forte could be cheaper if not for the G’s protection scheme. I heard from a friend that worked on the Forte project at Naza, for the lowest spec, the price that they submit to the G for approval is RM 60K++ as they intend to compete with the Waja. But as you see from the released price, this is not materialized because of protection to our beloved proton of course.
November 25, 2009 @ 7:24 pm
I finally know why those Toyota Vios drivers remove their Toyota badges and replace it with the Lexus badge.
It’s all to do with the badge!!! Enlightened I am
November 25, 2009 @ 7:32 pm
Nice one vee.
November 25, 2009 @ 7:55 pm
Alfa Romeo,
Well said. Cheers
November 25, 2009 @ 8:14 pm
i just wonder why ppl making a noise bout the emblem… it doesn’t change the fact that u need to service etc at Naza also ..
And changing the kia emblem not going to add more HP LOL
anyway this car is value for money!
November 25, 2009 @ 8:17 pm
if only Naza after sales services is improved, definitely this Forte is a killer. Car ownership is not just buying a car, but also servicing & maintenance. This is where Naza need to buck up. Anyway, Forte is nice car
November 25, 2009 @ 8:58 pm
I booked the 1.6 SX already . But in waiting list
November 25, 2009 @ 9:14 pm
ok laaaa..now days korean technology almost good like japan technology..it can be trusted! i wish had this car and will recommended for my wife to buy this..
November 25, 2009 @ 9:16 pm
Alfa Romeo said,
November 25, 2009 @ 6:19 pm
Now, this is a real car that I would be glad to trade my Alfa Romeo 156 for! I have been sticking with the 156 for more than a decade as it looks really good (to me at least) but the maintenance is like shite- Selespeed should have been developed by Japanese or Korean auto makes, then they would be useful at least!
Now this Forte looks charming enough and being a Korean, it should last better than an Alfa Romeo; so please point me to the nearest dealer.
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sell me your alfa romeo….
November 25, 2009 @ 9:28 pm
NOW this gonna slash a portion of the cake of Vios & City ~~
I hope it gonna slash it in half tough!!
Vios & City way cannot compete with the feature & look of this baby!!!
90k++ for 6 air bags and all the gadgets… what for you get in the Vios TRD? still cannot out run the Forte!!
BTW its competing with the Civic 2.0 ~ not the B segment..hahah!!
but still.. good alrernative for those getting good deal with PUG308~~
PLs listen… honda & Toyota~~ add more stuffs to your CAR…no more empty box!!!
agree????
November 25, 2009 @ 9:59 pm
are u sure 1.6sx comes with Electronic stability control? That’s cheap. At least the koreans are saving our lives….
November 25, 2009 @ 10:41 pm
At a glance, it’s damn nice! You won’t get such a nice deal like this from other manufacturers. Meanwhile, does anybody know the interest rate given for Forte?
November 25, 2009 @ 11:03 pm
Any one test drive the car? 1.6 version enough power or not?
November 25, 2009 @ 11:31 pm
I had tested 1.6SX in PJ area specially uphills, rough round, traffic jam and etc. All condition look fine for me bcoz I use to drive korea car – heavy body!
I just simply press hard b4 uphill and it perform well for 2 person inside car. Besides, I can use shiftronic to change the gear manually and it really work to maintain gear 2 until rpm to 4-5K and power is remain until I increase to gear 3 later 4.
Overall, 1.6SX engine performance is acceptable but really do not know the FC performance. The test unit show 14l/100km and I believe it may coz by short distance test drive.
But still need more finding bcoz no change to test 2.0 model b4 final decision make.
November 25, 2009 @ 11:44 pm
the front design look like jdm honda accord euro-r. may be the honda one is slightly bigger compare to this forte. in terms of price what can i say, it reasonable enough with all the feature that they install.
November 25, 2009 @ 11:53 pm
endy said,
I heard from a friend that worked on the Forte project at Naza, the price that they submit to the G for approval is RM 60K++ to compete with the Waja. But this is not materialized because of protection to our beloved proton of course.
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‘my friend at Proton’ said, the price of persona should be RM20K, but G didn’t approve..
‘my friend at Honda’ said, the new city supposed to fly with it’s 6500hp jet engine, but G didn’t approve..
…
‘your friend inside the toilet bowl’ said, u stink…
November 26, 2009 @ 12:07 am
endy : how sure are you? Is it the govt or naza that wanted bigger profit margin?
Before Passat CC arrived, many rumors spread abt VW submitting the govt to sell it at a “very low price”, and then kononnya the govt only approve it at RM300k. But look what happened: the Passat CC turned out to be cheaper than BMW 320i and Merc C200K.
November 26, 2009 @ 12:30 am
Alfa Romeo said,
November 25, 2009 @ 6:19 pm
Now, this is a real car that I would be glad to trade my Alfa Romeo 156 for! I have been sticking with the 156 for more than a decade as it looks really good (to me at least) but the maintenance is like shite- Selespeed should have been developed by Japanese or Korean auto makes, then they would be useful at least!
well, alfa selespeed actuator was manufactured by denso – a japanese company. maybe it is a sabotage?
well said for forte, beautiful european lines. seen a lot on the road here in china.
November 26, 2009 @ 12:33 am
haha this cars sticks a finger in proton’s anus
November 26, 2009 @ 12:58 am
kimi_ said,
November 25, 2009 @ 4:11 pm
the BRAND name is utmost important !!!!
what the hell is this nice car has the NAZA badge om it…really shame
i will not even look at it BECAUSE of the Naza badge…..PLEASE do something to retain the KIA badge like the spectra!!!!
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haiz kimi…i believe Forte carries the Naza badge so that it can get some tax exemption thus enabling it to be priced cheap…if the Kia badge is maintained, I’m guessing the price of the 2.0L would probably be slightly above RM100k
November 26, 2009 @ 1:33 am
davidbrchdav said,
November 25, 2009 @ 3:40 pm
Paul, how come this Kia/Naza forte so not so expensive, any leads?
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Becoz its under Naza la, Naza got backup from G, is it true? I thk they wanna help their people ma…
November 26, 2009 @ 3:00 am
After reading the news from paul and all comments..this is real value for money car that will take away big market from Ts n Hs..
I am interested to test drive 2.0l forte..when it come to the showroom..and how much d interest that our bank offer?
November 26, 2009 @ 3:36 am
well guys to tell u frankly.. Forte is a gud buy… btw the prize is actually cheap coz naza group wantz to catch local market.. newayz its a gud sign for car lovers as other manufacturer would actually fit in more proper gadgets in the new line of carz including proton… Letz wait and see.. 2010 is gonna be a gud time for car lovers.. so for the moment just stick to ur former cars and wait for next year…. proton try bringin in more better specs into ur carz….. newayz korean cars never been that bad if not for their resale value and the spare parts.. i drive a kia spectra and i never had any problesm wif the car so far.. i am a fast driver and i have done 180 wif the car regularly in the highwayz and i have never had funny sounds wif the engines.. well guys its all like electronic parts.. its all based on luck.. even a merc have engines problems… so my advise is just wait till next year and see some commenets from the owners b4 booking this car.. adioz
November 26, 2009 @ 3:46 am
Well, my 99 AR156 is up for grabs if you have RM30k in your bank, Madza 3. Servicing can be done at Emech, although do take note that the Selespeed has had issues from time to time. Spent RM8k on this over the years but still not to my expectation.
Well, with the stupid regulations barring used parts from 2010 onwards, this 156 would not be feasible to be maintained anymore, I supposed. Forte 2.0, here I come!
November 26, 2009 @ 4:33 am
I WISH NAZA WILL BRING BMW IN NAZA NAME.. HAHA
BTW THIS FORTE OWESOME.. BATTER THAN OTHER SEDAN CAR
November 26, 2009 @ 7:05 am
kimi_ said,
November 25, 2009 @ 4:11 pm
the BRAND name is utmost important !!!!
what the hell is this nice car has the NAZA badge om it…really shame
i will not even look at it BECAUSE of the Naza badge…..PLEASE do something to retain the KIA badge like the spectra!!!!
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how many times u wanna repeat yourself? like a nagging housewife!
u must be the type of nut who looks at cindy crawford but only sees the mole.
November 26, 2009 @ 7:41 am
kia forte look nice n smart!
November 26, 2009 @ 8:13 am
HI Everyone, I am about to book vios E, but after take a look at the Forte i fall in love with it. what i am uncertaint now is
1) Fuel Consumption ( 1.6 model)
2) Spare part
3) Maintenane Fee
Any one can assist me?
November 26, 2009 @ 9:00 am
Guys, dont get me wrong. I like the car, and I intend to get one and I’m damn sure the bang for buck that I gonna get out of it. However TOC of Korean cars – Accent, Spectra, even the C-class imitation Sonata didnt do any favour to this baby future projection. Stuck in Malaysia dont do any favour to auto lovers, be it continental (Fiat, Alfa, Citroen), Korean or coupes and cabriolets. Furthermore knowing what kind of service you might be getting from Naza is already a pain in the ass. Doesnt matter if its Naza or Kia, its the same car just like Pug 206 and Naza Bestari, what’s the fuss?
And I’m not a Nissan salesman. I talk from the customer point of view when I tried to trade in my car for a City, Innova or GLivina. Nissan trade in value is the highest, as they give discounts indirectly through trade in values, not like naza which reprice the Citra like nobody business.
November 26, 2009 @ 9:04 am
If it’s too good to be true…. it probably is….. eg, Mitsubishi lancer waiting list,
November 26, 2009 @ 10:04 am
Now what I’m concerned is:
- After-sales service
- Maintenance and spare parts costs.
November 26, 2009 @ 10:13 am
maa said,
November 26, 2009 @ 3:00 am
After reading the news from paul and all comments..this is real value for money car that will take away big market from Ts n Hs..
I am interested to test drive 2.0l forte..when it come to the showroom..and how much d interest that our bank offer?
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between 3.25% – 3.50% I believe, thanks to G because before Exora was launched and before G decided to raise the HP interest rate for non-national cars, the HP rate for Kia cars was around 2.6% (salesman told me)…got the price sheet from the showroom yesterday…for 1.6L SX, the monthly installment is RM880 for 9 years while for 2.0L, the monthly installment is RM1,010 for 9 years also.
November 26, 2009 @ 10:32 am
Alfa Romeo said,
November 26, 2009 @ 3:46 am
Well, my 99 AR156 is up for grabs if you have RM30k in your bank, Madza 3. Servicing can be done at Emech, although do take note that the Selespeed has had issues from time to time. Spent RM8k on this over the years but still not to my expectation.
Well, with the stupid regulations barring used parts from 2010 onwards, this 156 would not be feasible to be maintained anymore, I supposed. Forte 2.0, here I come!
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it won’t be so easy…..government will receive some bashing
November 26, 2009 @ 11:31 am
why worry about the badge when u can change it anywhere.Go to ahbeng shop.sure get one.
November 26, 2009 @ 12:22 pm
for the price of 80K++, choose this rather than those stupid overpriced dugong and city.
Luckily my frenz not yet book the dugong. Now he is gonna take the 1.6SX soon
November 26, 2009 @ 12:33 pm
det said,
November 26, 2009 @ 11:31 am
why worry about the badge when u can change it anywhere.Go to ahbeng shop.sure get one.
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i want put porsche badge…
November 26, 2009 @ 1:41 pm
test drive the 1.6 y’day…
not bad at all…but still prefer the 2.0
November 26, 2009 @ 1:59 pm
hopefully it will kill the ‘dugong’..
haha….
this one 100 times better…
November 26, 2009 @ 2:57 pm
Kia should introduce Subaru blue, the sporty colour meant for SUbaru, in the line-ups as well.
November 26, 2009 @ 4:37 pm
did this forte come with the eco driving option? I found this simply ECO ON button effectively reduce FC ( driving performance)..
share from china forte forum>>
http://www.autohome.com.cn/drive/200911/77318.html
November 26, 2009 @ 5:52 pm
Just went to the showroom, the SA told me current unit is CBU. I can see the KIA logo on the demo car + the aircond has hot air which is not needed in Malaysia. It is absolutely worth with this kind of price getting CBU unit.
November 26, 2009 @ 7:53 pm
WS,
Just because the air-cond system offers hot-air means it is CBU. There are many CKDed cars in Malaysia that offer heaters with their air-conds. It depends on the air-cond pack that they use in the assembly.
November 27, 2009 @ 12:01 am
first i love this blod.
second, i love this car!!
the looks of Kia forte is not so ‘tranformers’-ly. so i wud feel more commfortable looking at it compared to City.
and thank god the meter console is not at the centre, unlike vios.
and the price is really cool.
why wud we care about re-sale price when we talk about buying a new car. as if we gonna sell it the day after we buy it.
but still, i also dont like the N emblem. sighhhhh…
im gonna stick it out, and put sumthing else. the N logo is such a turn off
November 27, 2009 @ 12:43 am
Maybe the Naza is good..But some the Naza Service Centre service was damn bad service..Especially Butterworth JayXXXs..Always sent sms to update about new car launched this and that..Before you buy it everythings is very good..But when we talk bout their after sales service..They treat you like dog..Dint believe..Go try it..My bos driving Toyota Vios G spec..The Toyo after sales service was damn good..The smile at you everytime you enter their service centre..Not only that..The way they serve you..Better if compare with Naza or even Honda..
November 27, 2009 @ 12:58 am
the waja 2010 is what i waiting for , this 2 year warranty car ,lol ,seems naza not confident bout the parts .
i m not impress witht the features ,
even vios or city will get 3 year lol.
after 2 year prepare fork hundreds to thousands la my friend.
November 27, 2009 @ 2:19 am
best looking compact car, gorgeous interior, great fuel economy
November 27, 2009 @ 2:43 am
At last some common sense from xenogearz,
Naza rebadges the car so that consumers like us can get the cars cheaper than T,N&H and with more specs. The G, only wants us to buy, P1 or P2 so that they(cronies) can grow rich which we get poorer.
If you dun like the brand Naza (or Inokom) original/OEM badges are available everywhere and can be easily removed like the Peugeot cars with Naza/Bestari logos. For the price and CBU some more, you cannot find anything else unless you want to buy JDM recon, used cars.
Also ppl who asked about resale value, Mazda 3, 5 & 6 how? Mitsu Lancer? Those cars are more expensive than T&H but no one sells them 2nd hand or if they do, are more than T&H 2nd hand! The new Forte will not come in large stock as they are selling like hot cakes in Europe and US, so we are actually getting them new and not old stock like previous Spectra, Rio or the last rubbish that people bought in droves…apanama… Sephia..ha!ha! That one, NAZA really conned people into buying as they bought by consignment for less than RM25K and after selling to the public at RM72k, still made a healthy profit!
However, being new, their after sales service sucks, big time! No matter what brands they are selling, be it Peugeot, Kia, MB, AMG or Brabus, still fail! Then again, they are considered an infant as compared to T,H&N, so can’t blame them unless they want to invest in customer service training and hire more people with hospitality background to manage their centres, they will get more bricks than bouquets. Dun believe, Proton/P2 after service still sucks..cos they believe their cheap cars do not warrant good service..ha!
I will go look at the new Forte soon as I need to change from my manual Waja, cannot be shifting gears at my age..
November 27, 2009 @ 10:20 am
tak larat nak baca lagi.. so hard to differentiate the crap commentors and the relevant commentors…
people are right, if they are thinking resale value only (since they change cars every 3 years or something or managed to pay off cars in 3 years) would just stick to honda’s and toyota’s..
this car is something different, its something with a european flavour, its something that you would actually use until you finish off the loan.
Naza Kia cars are not half bad, finding a good service center is bad, especially the ones that refuse to follow the manual recomendation of service intervals..
i do really like it
and I will be a bit different from the rest…
*btw, if more people actually like then the resale value would rise, which means these people who buys car based on resale value would have nothing to crap about.. right
November 27, 2009 @ 3:56 pm
TEC said,
November 26, 2009 @ 2:57 pm
Kia should introduce Subaru blue, the sporty colour meant for SUbaru, in the line-ups as well.
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now kia prettier than subaru
November 27, 2009 @ 10:01 pm
Here are the brochure, from Singapore though!
http://livinginsingaporetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/kiaceratobrochure.pdf
November 28, 2009 @ 2:22 am
driving the new city now, but if they give a good price for it, i am thinking of the 2.0 one. Haven’t seen the car yet, but i am sad with the plastic and the under carriage of my city. My previous city which i traded in, was of better quality!
November 28, 2009 @ 12:32 pm
pls put in some manual with 5 gear change. 1.6l is enuff for me
November 28, 2009 @ 3:57 pm
Hmm…either this or the Ribena.
November 28, 2009 @ 8:39 pm
giler kencang~~!! aq suka amattt..
November 29, 2009 @ 12:32 am
looking for a new sedan recently as the family welcomed a new member. sat in and test-driven a few cars in the past month, and this is what i have to say.
vios,
opened the door. didn’t want to sit inside at all. overpriced, underpowered, unsafe, cheap feel. with the cheapo specs, it surprising that they are actually selling so well! talk about brand loyalty! moved on to next showroom.
city,
much better than the vios, but price with modulo kits abt 95K. overpriced 1.5L toy car.
forte,
got int the 1.6SX. i didn’t want to get out from the car! test-drove the car for almost 1Hr! in fact, test driven it twice at 2 diff showrooms in one day because i cannot believe it!
feels good on the road even with the 17in rims. power is acceptable, could be better though. cruising is quiet at 120kph. braking is solid. door closes like a real door. push start/stop/keyless entry is awesome. seats comfortably. has european feel to it. good view from within. nice ground clearance. well balanced front, back, wheel placement, proportions pleasing to the eyes, doesn’t look like a dugong or cockroach. big @$$ boot. u feel the money u spent is well utilized in each corner of the car.
already put a 2k deposit on the 2.0L model 3 days ago. name me another 2.0L car with half the features and i’ll forfeit my 2k.
traction control, 6 airbags, keyless…
i wonder if the Koup will debut here…
November 30, 2009 @ 1:37 pm
why not they keep most of this specs? http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/3673/KIA-Koup-Concept.html
i like the lamps, engine power..
November 30, 2009 @ 3:54 pm
naza services is SUX. INFAMOUS IN MSIA. stiill own me rm200 booking fee. salesman will not pickup ur call if they dont have stock. promise to refund but drag 4 month also no news . buy form naza . u need think twice
November 30, 2009 @ 4:46 pm
naza services is SUX. INFAMOUS IN MSIA. NAZA stiill owe me rm200 booking fee. NAZA salesman will not pickup ur call if they dont have stock. promise to refund but drag 4 month also no news . if u want to buy form naza . u need think twice
November 30, 2009 @ 4:49 pm
please la… to those always ask bout resale value hmmmm… its better you all just go buy house rather than car. Cars=unprofitable…. so think twice… For me if they (manufacture) give the good spec ,performance and quality at the range of affordable price, that’s a best way to encourage our people to buy a car. Improve our economy also. True Honda and Toyota get demand in our market… but what u can can with price that you pay, nothing. but in terms of “resale” those also getting price knockout… the different just 10% to 15% only… the conclusion CARS can’t make profit to you… at one time u still need to top up extra money to replace the new one… so no question bout resale value anymore, if u like it go and get it. For me i really prefer to buy this car rather than City and Vios that was so so so small. Just hold in the “brand” name and dont care bout the spec given?… ask urself…..
December 1, 2009 @ 1:11 am
Forte-ed said,
November 29, 2009 @ 12:32 am
already put a 2k deposit on the 2.0L model 3 days ago. name me another 2.0L car with half the features and i’ll forfeit my 2k.
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ok bro,,u buy first, we all keep update paultan.org
December 1, 2009 @ 1:15 am
wait for waja laaa..
then after waja launch,,,wait for new camry
then after new camry launch…wait for accord…
then after new accord launch…wait forever aa…
if u need this car,,go pay ur booking fee…dont wait…use ur car, dont leave at home
December 1, 2009 @ 1:37 am
I went for a test drive this morning (for 1.6)…….little bit of under power, the rest are ‘good’…….i believe 2L should be better. i plan to order 1 (2L)….but need to wait for 2-3 months……..!!!!!
December 1, 2009 @ 2:14 am
xenogearz said,
for 1.6L SX, the monthly installment is RM880 for 9 years while for 2.0L, the monthly installment is RM1,010 for 9 years also.
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is RM880 for 9 years = zero down payment?
December 1, 2009 @ 3:15 am
The current price is for the CBU from Korea right?
Will the price drop when it’s assembled in NAZA Gurun Kedah?
December 1, 2009 @ 11:52 am
aiya, just book my civic 1.8
now dunno want to cancel booking or not?
forte 2.0 only 94k with better specs , where civic 1.8 115k.
can save 21k….
December 1, 2009 @ 3:44 pm
Forte in SG have windscreen cracking problem, unofficially the cause is due to windscreen supplier. 50+ cases up to yesterday.
http://www.ceratoforte.sg/general-discussion-for-forte-owners-f2/important-take-note-of-your-windscreen-cases-of-cracked-windscreen-reported-t377-0.htm
Hopefully Kia MY don’t get their windscreen from the same supplier!
December 1, 2009 @ 4:29 pm
KOLo said,
The current price is for the CBU from Korea right?
Will the price drop when it’s assembled in NAZA Gurun Kedah?
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I’ve asked one of the naza sales person. The current batch (with only 500 units; not sure about the current status now) is CBU and after those batch would be the CKD from Gurun Kedah. Paul wrote that but don’t know why the naza rep call him up and said the fact abt this was wrong. That’s why he removed that info.
What i was told that the only diff between the CBU and CKD is the logo on the steering. Badges on the exterior for both units remain the same Naza badge.
Big diff btwn SG MY models for 1.6SX is that the ones in SG got reverse camera 0.0 while ours is the distance to rear obstruction.
December 1, 2009 @ 6:19 pm
Kimi, you are s**t damn loser. if they put the KIA badge, the price will surge > more than 120k, then you’ll blame the NAP. Stupid. this forum is not for you, go to school and learn, moron.
December 2, 2009 @ 11:23 am
hye,
people keep on talking about CBU and CKD…some salesman also told me about 500 units bla bla bla cbu…now can anyone tell me..how can we know the car that we get either cbu orr ckd (other than seeing kia badge on the steering and 17′ sport rim with kumho tyre for spare)? going to put some cash here…
December 2, 2009 @ 3:32 pm
I remembered that once the S.Korean CBU cars have little white sticker pasted on the rear window (stating the model, engine CC, Made in Korea, options, etc etc) as a proof that the car is imported but those stickers I only see on Kia and Ssangyong vehicles but not Hyundai though and now imported Kias also dun have these stickers so not sure how to tell now.
December 3, 2009 @ 3:29 am
baPak said,
now can anyone tell me..how can we know the car that we get either cbu orr ckd
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NAZA Ria CBU units come with chassis number beginning with Alphabet “K” e.g.KNAUP 1234*****. Local assembled versions bgins with Alphabet “M”
Info from:
http://www.motortrader.com.my/asp/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3553
December 3, 2009 @ 5:17 pm
Hei guys….after so many comments and idea…What is the conclusion?
This car is value for money or you guys will never consider buying it?
December 4, 2009 @ 2:57 am
after reading all the post from the top…i dun kno already which one to choose.. is it forte 1.6sx or mazda 2 ( which to launch march n to be around forte’s price) coz that is my max budget…
luv mazda 2…but look small from the brochure..
luv forte also..but concern bout quality n after sales n FC
guide me anyone????
December 5, 2009 @ 12:54 am
niceee …
thanx KOlo
Lau, its hard to agree about this things..better u try test drive 1st…then u’ll know…
..2 times already going to Kia.. peeps say about the high price for its spare parts…yup i agree…but for the maintenance?..high? 1st service cost u about rm2++.. i insistently ask them to see their schedule..and it slash most of bad influence 
December 5, 2009 @ 9:19 am
Hi baPak, thanks for your advice.
Actually i did test drive the 1.6SX, it is bit under power….as you said, also worried about the price of the spare parts and resale value but i really LOVE this car. So I have make decision to book and buy it (for 2.0L)…..Yiipee !!!
Now i m not thinking about the resale value………because i really tertarik about this car……….paid 10% alredy yesterday, but SA told me need to wait 3 months…….what to do, right?
December 7, 2009 @ 10:48 am
Love at first sight..
December 7, 2009 @ 9:11 pm
Lau,
Gud choice with the 2lit as it comes with the same Theta engine like Rondo
but a improve of Theta1 to 2..
and if u those on the tighter budget go for the 1.6 higher spec which in terms of spec is far more features against the Japs except the 17″ rims which if u reduce to 15 will sure give you more Km & won’t burn ur wallet when come replacements..
I guess the 1st service would probably costs u about 250 and it’s ur choice whether to go on Full synthetic or Semi..
Did mine Rondo 1st with semi and it only cost me about 130..
Really contemplate with White….
Just imagine whites with dark tinted cruising at our freeway…fuh awesome
December 7, 2009 @ 11:57 pm
Hi Rondowner, thanks for your support……dreaming about my new Forte every nite…….ZZZzzzzZZZZz !!!!
2L Forte got ‘ sunroot ‘??? Anybody can help????
December 8, 2009 @ 8:14 pm
Hi I am considering the 2.0l
when I knocked on the body of the car at the rear/ near petrol tank and booth, I found the sound to be quite hollow and thin. in fact using my index finger I knocked on it and found it to be quite thin and softer compared to other cars of different brands but of similar segment.
Anyone has comments on whether the body is indeed thin – not as solid when you knock against it.
December 9, 2009 @ 10:42 am
Estimate Kia maintenance yearly for Forte :
1-3 years
4-7 years
7-10 years
I have a friend owns a Naza Ria. Monthly installment 1.8k. Then his car water regulator brokedown, need 7-8k to replace hold set…! Don’t have budget to repair, have to leave it…
So is it Kia maintenance so high?
December 10, 2009 @ 1:34 pm
Anyone can suggest?
Estimate Kia yearly maintenance for Forte :
1-3 years
4-7 years
7-10 years
December 13, 2009 @ 7:20 am
Hello,
We are driving a Kia Forte in Montreal, Canada. It is awesome…It is comfortable…It’s good for winter driving too….Kia rocks!!!!!
December 14, 2009 @ 10:59 am
wOW i was get a test drive yesterday it really a nice car,with low price we got a high quality built and nice touching,advantce technology,quite cabin,roomy and the important is comfortable and safety.
BUT..sorry to say i tested a 1.6sx the pick-up really to upgrade,Hence it’s better take 2.0 for the great performence but roadtax pay are too high…
December 14, 2009 @ 1:36 pm
I just tested two 1.6SX yesterday at different seller / dealers. The comments i can make listed below:-
1. Design: Overall is really cool.
2. The computerized devices how long will it last? Usually it’s based on user how you take care of it but for those electronics devices sure will be EOL one day. Will it able to last for 5-10 years?
3. The reverse sensor (for 1.6SX) is not in good condition on both tested car. One response slow the other one gave wrong sensor’s info (no objects behind and the road is in stable road but yet still give emergency alert, wondering whether the reverse sensor spoil easily or am so lucky tested two car with spoiled reverse sensor at different shop).
4. I informed the SA that i wish to take a look for all display shown from the catelog, the SA informed me that due to low petrol, i can’t see at this moment. We went to a petrol station to fill up some petrol and upon complete, the SA remove the fuse on the spot at the petrol station. The SA stated that he needs to remove the fuse to prevent the high milage capture at that testing car. By the time the SA removed / unplug the car’s fused that caused me unable to see the functionality of the car’s electronic display that makes me felt uncomfortable and cheated. Per Seller info, they need to unplug it in order to prevent the car’s meter kept growing. Why need to take in to considerations for a Test car’s meter? Are you going to use it to sell again as new car? Since the meter can be easily removed, how can I ensure that the car that you give me is really drive as low distance as possible?
Is somehting goes wrong with the catelog display compare with real car?
5. Kia car services are they good / ready to support new technology car like Forte?
December 14, 2009 @ 2:30 pm
thanks ThunderCats.this is what im afraid of Naza
December 14, 2009 @ 4:57 pm
I believe majority of you will be asking whether the suspension is good or not etc. Be honest, the easiest way for you to identify via surface is to check how many ‘nuts’ attaching to the wheel. Those consists of 5 nuts will be using MacPherson. If you notice, those better quality cars (example: Accord, Civic, Camry, Benz, BMW, Avante) consists of 5 nuts at their wheel. As a result of the test ealier from the blog above, FORTE 1.6SX consists of a great suspension than City, Vios, Accent, etc.
Upoon driving, i tried to drove over few big deep holes and found out that the suspension / vibration within the car is really stable and felt comfortable. Further more, you may try to sit inside the car and close the door and stay tune to fell the vibration in the car and the door’s sound, it will bring more satisfaction than just a lousy plastic sounds than certian types of Japanese cars.
December 15, 2009 @ 2:47 pm
Yeah to be honestly it’s really a satble and comfort car,very enjoy when driving no rasa when hit the lobang everywhere in malaysia road surface so it’s really suitable for malaysia,proud to be Malaysian with Korean car! he he..
Anyhow i was read BeritaHarian in 11Dec09 which the writer was make a test drive in Forte 1.6sx,they said the pick-up very surprise but it’s really disappointed for me,i donno that semi auto how.regret to forgot make a test coz i just test in fully auto..
December 15, 2009 @ 2:59 pm
Hi Titan,
The Semi auto, upon used, whenever you change to auto will have somekind of sound upon gear changed. Not sure whether the car i tested already have some problem at first car while second car do not hear any sound at all. As for the power, i tried and seem powerful. It is good if you can drive and justify yourself.
December 15, 2009 @ 6:54 pm
i think this is the only kia’s car that v can consider to buy…very high spec likes keyless entry n push start…but don know thirsty or not (coz korean cars=thirsty) if compare to japanese cars…anyhow its looks nice n has a reasonable pricing…
December 16, 2009 @ 8:00 am
Basically people are judging based on ‘BRAND’ insted of ‘Technology’. I can see recent cars from Korea seems great / improve alot. They are using CVVT (ability to control variable valve) to prevent extra petrol consumed. As for Forte, it is using CVVT as well. You may check further on Hyundai Avante’s owner justification on fuel consumption – http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?showtopic=91397
If you calculate on the fuel consumption, how much extra cost will it cost? I believe the car that you are affort, fuel consumption will not be call into considerations anymore.
December 20, 2009 @ 12:46 am
Moving fwd, I’m pretty sure that this car will receive a lot of award n wait till that time, City/Civic/Vios owners will realize that they are paying high price on those cars. Let’s see what is the best midize car segment award for 2010.
Test drive Forte last week, n im so amazed with the interior & performance of this car. Don’t care about the resale value, by looking at the features/design/tech; im pretty sure that you’ll want to keep this car for a long time. Cheers for Forte…
December 20, 2009 @ 1:33 pm
There is still buyers who are brand concious,
Buy without studying spec and features and most importantly price and some are just hear say and if resale value are the concern then one should go buy a property or a house as i always stress car is a liability not an assets..
Seeing what Kia offer makes me feels cheated to own Japs brand comparing pricing of course..
guess i m almost certain to trade in my 04 potong with the SX keep it for at least 15 yrs till my retirement kicks in..HAHAHA
December 21, 2009 @ 8:51 am
Hi all,
i’ve got an info the Forte 2.0 for test drive will come by this january2010 Hence,make sure wait this moment to get a test.
after tested 1.6 sx not saticefied,Let see how 2.0l are the best.
December 21, 2009 @ 11:30 am
hi.. does anyone knows whether the 1.6EX comes with the immobilizer or not?
December 21, 2009 @ 12:44 pm
what is immobilizer actually,i want to know what the function is it.But for sure i think better get sx model coz alot of the benefit inside.
December 22, 2009 @ 6:02 am
why other country kia forte only couple door and looks alot sport .malaysia kia forte not nice…
check this kia forte
http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/200904/kia-forte-koup-7_1600×0w.jpg
December 22, 2009 @ 11:18 am
Afternoon,
This model forte outlook is more nicely, but why warranty given only 2 year / 50K km?
I feel that your company no confident for your quality & your company history record no so good.
I propose why no warranty given to 6 year / 150K km, this will help your company pull back customer confident & in Malaysia, your company warranty limit is the higher one.
Tq
December 22, 2009 @ 11:25 am
Hey Billy….u need to get your facts right or start reading more….get out of your nutshell and see the world…the link you pasted is for Kia Forte Coupe Version which will be released next year in Malaysia…currently they released Kia Forte Sedan
December 22, 2009 @ 12:55 pm
Huh? err..good afternoon to you too.
This is a blog dude, its not Naza’s customer feedback thingy.
Heck, most of us here are not Naza customers, we’re just blabbering away for whatever its worth.
Still a damn good looking car though…badges, rebadges and warranties asside.
December 22, 2009 @ 5:45 pm
test drive @ lai khim sp last week.
i have to say this
forte 1.6sx need more power
others superior than vios/city (same price range)
so, placed booking rm1k….
no ckd – cancel booking
December 28, 2009 @ 6:23 pm
why put NAZA logo? really no nice …
December 28, 2009 @ 11:46 pm
Dear all,
Any freebies or further discount from sales rep for those that have booked the new forte? I am interested to book one.
December 29, 2009 @ 2:57 pm
i got tinted value or rm 900. form sa subang branch
January 4, 2010 @ 12:54 pm
wow… very attractive body…like evo 10.Im consider to buy it if im not able to buy evo 10 (body comparison).i dont care about resale coz “alah membeli menang memakai”. but i hate the engine.. waste petrol.. lagsuir petrol..hik2.further..very expensive spare part.My pren says KIA is “NOT” car… NEW but OLD TECHNOLOGY. think twice to buy it…huhu.
January 5, 2010 @ 4:54 pm
Fauzi,
Both u & your parent need to update your knowledge.. If you like Evo.. Then, u will like KIA Forte/Rondo/Optima.. Why.. Evo & KIA/Hyundai is using the SAME ENGINE.Not believe or end of the wold for you when u heard that. It is call GEME Engine.. Pls study what is GEME engine.. And told your parent.. KIA no longer suck fuel..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Engine_Manufacturing_Alliance
January 5, 2010 @ 5:05 pm
Fauzi,
The same engine.. But, they use different code name for the engine. For 2.0 Lancer or Evo.. Mitsubishi name it 4B11 etc.. For Hyundai/KIA.. they call it Theta engine… Suprise for this information?
January 8, 2010 @ 11:51 am
Thinking to let go my 2005 city and get Forte 2.0. I still have 4 years installment to go for my city at RM890 a month. Now market price is around 56k. If I trade in then I will loan about 80k for this Forte.
Monthly will still repayment the same at about 900 except the loan become 9 years again.
My worry was after 5 years, if going to change a new car again. Will Forte 2nd hand value will give me 14k just like my city now?
Pls help to give comment if you are in the same situation as me.
Tks.
January 8, 2010 @ 12:03 pm
Rate 1-10:
1) Color – 6
Maintenance – 5
2) Exterior – 8
3) Interior – 5
4) Performance – 7
5) Safety – 7
6) Technology – 8
7) Features – 7
Average: 53/8 = 6.625
January 8, 2010 @ 4:18 pm
King,
If ur concern is on resale value then u should go buy a house or a property which will appreciate like i stress that buying a car in boleh land is never ever going to be cheap whats more with cronies protection syndrome..
But lets hope that the Korean keep on coming with fanatstic products which i m sure will in one day change the game in our auto sector and by then maybe your forte could fetch higher than the japs and i m sure when the market forces determine the price than there will be no doubt about it that the Korean are here to compete…
My neighbour whom just traded in his Civic ‘99 for about 28K for a Mazda M5 and thats about 10 yrs car so what is Resale Value…Practically
Gud choice on the 2.0lit as is the same engine as Rondo but with a upgraded versions and hp of 145 to 156 if im not wrong..Theta1 to 11 so is goin to be powerful whats more on a sedan comparing to Mpv..
January 8, 2010 @ 7:36 pm
Thanks Rondowner.
My main concern is the depreciation value over my repayment amount. When come to 5 years, I still need to pay back the bank and pour out 10% to buy new car.
Since your are Rondo owner, mind to share the depreciation is below or over your repayment for 9 years loan?
Tks in advance.
January 8, 2010 @ 8:11 pm
King,
If u plan to use ur car for 5 yrs then base on current scenario i would advise u to go for a reliable japs and hoping to be able to get back the 10% d/P when u sell in 5 yrs time and forget about getting other make beside jap. as there are still who are brand concious..simple as that..
As for my rondo i m using it for at least 10 yrs and i m sure by then the value could depreciate till maybe 30 or less and is about 60% so just compare against my neighbour Civic ‘99..but of course if reliability is ur concern..
You can always go into any auto forum and even owners reviews from US,Canada,Australia to read more on the engine spec,GEMA engine,FC,NVH,
handling etc.
Eg: Read Paul reviews on Rondo, US using it as Taxi..
So conclusions your money u decide and worry too much u will end up buying nothing..I was in that situation and lifes take a turn when one of my good buddy suddenly diagnose of Cancer and fighting for life in 18 mths and gave up and he was only 40…so cheer up lifes short enjoy first..sorry for sharing my long reviews..hehehe
January 8, 2010 @ 8:56 pm
Rondowner,
Good comment always end up too short in my mind.
I love the car and I know the performance will be good enough for non F1 racer. Maybe I a bit kiasi so car after 5 years I will lost confident. lol.
That’s why have to use calculator toughly to ensure have 15k after 5 years from my previous car. (I will stop talking about this)
Here it’s go:
93800 depreciate 10k per year.
After 5 years, 43800.
Bank loan 80k * 3% x 9 = 101600 / 108 = 940/month.
940 * 60 (5years) = 56400.
Balance loan: 45200.
Oh oh… I still have to pay back 1400 to bank…..
But how about 7 years.
Bank loan 80k * 3% x 9 = 101600 / 108 = 940/month.
940 * 84 (5years) = 56400.
Balance loan: 22640. Car value after 7 years: 23800.
1160… hmmm… Do you think 1 year will depreciate 10k? hope 7-8k then my dream come true…
January 9, 2010 @ 4:21 pm
King,
You are contradicting urself…
Read my 1st para. last post and again ur money u decide..
i don’t base on assumption in depreciation i base on current actual scenario..
cheers
January 13, 2010 @ 3:12 pm
Beautiful but go and check the upcomin Hyundai i40 lar…Drop dead beautiful!!!!
January 15, 2010 @ 11:21 am
are this new forte has sunroof???
January 16, 2010 @ 11:06 am
Why Malaysians think about resale value never seems to amaze me. What do you expect when buying a car? I’ve never bought a Js or a Hs & have loss quite a huge sum of $$$ BUT i am happy. Life is too short, enjoy it while it lasts. ie. Rondo’s story-telling. For me buying a car is not an investment. It’s your day to day necessity. I have seen and know a lot of M’sians are complaining about the Credit Card Service Tax RM50 but have we noticed the amount of unnecessary sms’es that we send/receive? I would not be surprised if their mobile bills exceed >RM100-200 monthly.
Anyway it’s irrelevant i know but if we look from a broader perspective, i do think we Msians think too “much”. Regards
January 20, 2010 @ 7:48 pm
Booked the 1.6sx in December and i heard that the car is here already..just waiting for some paper work clearance and i’m getting my new baby before Chinese new year!!! YIPPEEE!!
2.0L can certainly give more power, but come to think of it, how often do i need to drive that fast?? the stop go traffic light in KL ain’t F1 starting grid (trying hard to convince myself i made the right choice in 1.6sx
)
What attracted me was how solid the body work is, not losing to Japs built and way way cooler on the interior (check out the dash board) – Altis doesn’t even look 1/2 as sophisticated to me…i like it coz it’s techy
Last one, who cares bout the petrol consumption when you have such beautiful ride? want to save petrol, get a smaller c.c car pls. resale value too is least on my mind…
Can’t stop dreaming bout my baby every night….
January 21, 2010 @ 2:04 am
Cool ,
The 124hp is sufficient to pull u away at traffic light whats more with the shiftronic even give you more feeling of driving a manual wif clutchless tech.
Seeing what kia offers makes me feel cheated owning japs anyway just my personal opinions..
Chk out the kiaforteclub in M.Trader , is good to hv some members sharing the same interests in the car..
had that feeling too when waiting for my rondo and dunno why don’t hv that feeling for my forte which is due in april…maybe confidence assurance frm rondo..
January 21, 2010 @ 2:54 pm
rondowner,
your forte is due in april you said? wow, the waiting period is quite long huh now that it reached 3 months
i love everything about forte but the thought of it having a relatively lower resale value compared to the likes of Honda and Toyota cars in the future deterred me from having a STRONG BUY conviction on this car
January 21, 2010 @ 3:42 pm
Tested forte 1.6, good…..no complain. Better than vios and city.
But, the 2months warranty period, too short. And research on the Sg website, the windsreen will crack by itself??? Paul, is it true?
January 21, 2010 @ 6:18 pm
its 2 years warranty gogocrack… and the windscreen for forte in m’sia, not a single case so far.
January 22, 2010 @ 10:26 pm
Xenogearz,
The first batch of 500 CBU units had been sold and i m not in hurry for a car so decided to wait till next shipments of 500 units and was told that there might be a price increase due to overwhelming response in US thats why u can hardly see any of the 2lit in showroom..
You may be right with the current scenario bout the resale value if u r using ur car for 5 yrs but if u would to compare the features & built up quality i am very sure it is better than the japs of course comparing dollar to dollar value..
I don’t think we can find a car for 93K wif 6 airbags or ESP,push starts for 81K of course some may say so what big deal with the push button..
I think for korean by far Kia’s offer comparing Hyundai had been the cheapest among comparing the i30..
Hv anyone see the ad for the new Sorento during the break of Tennis Australia open..sponsor by KIA ….WAOH…awesome
January 25, 2010 @ 9:23 am
Hi, May I know roughly how long does it consume from the day of booking / make full payments until car delivered to your hand?
Do the seller request for an extra RM150 cash for Runner to gain AP approval?
The car seller (from Auto City) informed me that in order to speed up the car AP approval, it is a standard price the buyer needs to pay extra RM150 whereas the RM150 is not listed within the selling price. Meanwhile, the time before i make a booking, car seller told me 3-4 weeks will get the car, but after i make a called to Customer line, they informed me it required 3-4 months. I felt Cheated and may bring this case into court for fraudulent case.