We just got back from the launch of the facelifted Proton Persona, which is officially called the Proton Persona Elegance. Available in three trim levels – Base Line, Medium Line and High Line – the Persona Elegance is powered by the familiar 1.6-litre Campro IAFM engine with 110 bhp at 6,500 rpm and 148 Nm of torque from 4000 rpm. Buyers can choose between a four-speed automatic or five-speed manual, but the High Line model only comes with the auto ‘box.
Although output remains, the Campro IAFM in the Persona Elegance comes with a new 32 bit ECU from Continental, which also supplied the previous 16 bit version. According to a Proton source, the new 32 bit ECU has more capabilities compared to the older 16 bit version – capable of more inputs, you can configure more parameters, and it can also interconnect with more systems such as “talking” to a Body Control Module such as the one in the Exora.
It is more of a future-proofing and cost-effectiveness move. Torque and power output remains the same as before. Firstly, Siemens VDO have been moving their global ECU manufacturing to 32 bit being the minimum, so it is not feasible for Proton to continue ordering 16 bit ECUs when the 32 bit version can be had at a far more competitive price. This move is also in preparation for the new Project Phoenix engine that we will soon see in Protons, which will require the capabilities of the new ECU.
UPDATE: Since we first published this article we’ve received more information on the new Persona Elegance. The changes go beyond just an aesthetic make-over. We already know there’s a new bodykit, front grille, bumpers and new LED tail lamps. But beyond that, here’s what’s different:
- The seat backrest angle has been changed to offer better comfort.
- Extra soundproofing material has been added to pillars to improve interior NVH.
- Despite power output and torque being the same, a source has indicated that the engine should feel livelier and more responsive. We’ll try to get an initial impression from the showrooms over this weekend.
The original story continues below…
There are a couple of changes to the exterior. As all of you already know from our previous reveals, the Persona Elegance comes with a new rear lamp cluster, now with LED brake lights. The nine LEDs are arranged in two rows – four up and five down. All trims except for the Base Line come with a bodykit, slim rear spoiler and foglamps, although the turning lamps on the side mirrors (illuminates in a cool light bar form) and chrome door handles are standard across the board.
Up front, the facelifted Persona uses the same nose as the Gen 2 CPS along with its “black out” headlamp housing, but with a different grille design. The Proton logo and its “wings” is pushed up to the top of the grille while the Gen 2 CPS has a central emblem. The 15-inch rim design is also new, although the 195/60 size of the tyres are unchanged. As before, the Base Line makes do with steel rims and hubcaps.
Inside, the most apparent change is the replacement of the previous custom designed audio head unit for a conventional single-DIN unit, once again by Blaupunkt. The USB compatible unit should be easier to operate than before with minimal and large buttons, and all trims but the Base Line get steering wheel controls. The meter cluster graphics are also new, now with white numbering and red needles plus a red inner ring, much more “premium looking” than the plain orange dials used before. Proton also says that the angle of rear seat has been changed for improved comfort.
Medium and High Line cars get a GPS navigation set stuck on the windscreen, driver’s seat height adjuster and electric side mirrors. Only the High Line gets leather seats and trim (Base and Medium Line sports a new fabric material), cruise control and remote release for the trunk.
Safety kit wise, the High Line comes with ABS and EBD, two airbags and two pre-tensioner seatblets. Out of this, the Medium Line only gets a driver’s airbag and pre-tensioner seatbelt, while the Base Line gets none of the above.
Here is the price list for the Persona Elegance:
Base Line (M) RM46,499
Base Line (A) RM49,499
Medium Line (M) RM52,999
Medium Line (A) RM55,999
High Line (A) RM59,499
Proton’s latest is available in two new colours – Chiffon Green and Bronze Garnet – in addition to silver and black. Brilliant Red is a colour exclusive to the High Line. Now in showrooms and ready for booking, the Persona Elegance comes with a 2-year/50,000 km manufacturer’s warranty plus a 3-year/125,000 km extended warranty programme – that’s a total of 5 years.
Pictures from the launch this morning, studio images, a video and a full scan of the brochure showing the equipment list of all variants are after the jump.
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Proton Persona Elegance live images from the launch
Proton Persona Elegance studio images
berapa byk facelift da…
smart gak… de perubahan kat mncung depan….pastu tmbah ngan skriting… tpi blakng same….
lawa btul…
suka lampi belakang dia
mcm pelir
pelir ko r comel
cool……….25yers dpt buat keta mcm ni…cantik dari kereta honda dan toyota..jepun x pandai design…kereta..lah!!!
haha , keta hodo ini mahu lawan honda / toyo . terguling guling saya ketawa . memang betul org kampung cakap kampung cantik , condo hodoh . sebab cuma mampu beli kampung papan. haha
sebulan beli , sini bunyi sana bunyi , power window rosak .
ini org suka belakang Ooo….
interior mmg membosankan
so smart..
syabas proton persona elegance begitu menawan.lampu belakang cantik.depan memuaskan,dalaman ok.cuma ada 2 perkara lagi yang perlu diubah untuk kepuasan mata pengguna.1) Design pada stering 2) Design pada lampu depan.Pastikan kedua-dua perkara tersebut nampak cantik.desig lampu skg mcm Gen2 kurang menarik. Perlu diingatkan ..3 perkara penting bagi menarik pelanggan untuk membeli proton.1) Daya tarikan pertama untuk menarik minat pembeli ialah Design atau pun rekabentuk kenderaan itu..tidak terlalu ditokok tambah lebih2, cukup dgn design yg ringkas dan kemas tetapi menarik.Itu sebagai daya penarik yg pertama. 2) Keluasan dan kekemasan dalaman kenderaan dan kekukuhan peralatan memberi kepuasan.3) Kuasa enjin yang senyap, berkuasa dan hebat.Dan pastikan semua elemen dan bahan buatan utk kenderaan adalah berkualiti.Pernah terjadi proton baru keluar tiba2 terhenti ditengah lebuhraya dan ada yang baru 1 jam keluar dari pusat pembelian on the way nak bawa balik tiba2 ada bunyi pada radiator. pastu terus masuk workshop tak sampai rumah pun.rupa2 nya skru pada radiator longgar dan terpaksa alas washer atau getah pada skru.walau bagaimana pun syabas pada proton kerana membuat perubahan.Jadikan segala rungutan pengguna sbg semangat utk mencari dan melakukan perubahan yg lebih baik.Cuba fahami selera pengguna rekabentuk,keluasan dan kehebatan menjadi kepuasan mereka.
Still bad. Elegance?? Next Avangarde.
1st………. still same like old version, not much change
dah nama pun facelift…..
Wow….. nice… same as my boss
hmm..same engine. Quite decent level of equipment for this price range
boleh tahan la rupa dia..
tapi gps jenis lekat kat cermin… to bad….
Do u prefer portable GPS that easily can be stolen?
nice facelift…
the side wing mirror is one of the most elegance wing mirror i have ever seen. seriously, it is a really good thing. the LED looks sleek and minimalistic.
cheap n cheerful. no passion, no care for drivers. new proton should include driver n passenger airbags as standard. shame.
’0′ airbag/s for Vios J. Double shame. Global player my a55.
ko rasa toyota cares abiut driver when they introduce vios J?
mana etika yg diarang laung2kan tu???
to me, only stupid people will buy that dugung J
Please respect people decision and don’t insult them.
Some people might find it not worth to spend on car especially in Malaysia.
An air bag will not save if you drive recklessly, it might make you suffer more when you r half dead.
Yes dugong J just a taxi in some other contries…but in Malaysia price 70K. WTF?
Altis also taxi in China and Taiwan but my conpany so proud to us it as executive company car ….lol
betul2 tu dugong toyota….
proton have reason to not take airbag as the standard safety features to the persona because the price is cheap than toyota vios j variant that price is more than the persona h-line price…i hate toyota because they sale car with high price but not sale the car but sale their FUCK brand….i hate toyota…
It is because out gov tax la stupid, that made the car expensive… if not the price is only around 50k for full spec…
are you from proton or your name is proton? how come you are so rude? do you know the quality and difference between vios and persona? have you ever been inside a vios? I wonder you nvr.
i’ve been i a vios and i’ve been in a persona, and i personally prefer the persona, much much more over the vios. to me, vios not that cool, i dont like the dashboard and its radio/cd player. triangular, weird.
true la.. and even better fuel consumption… a close friend dump vios and drives only persona nowadays.. any more proof? dont just bash proton without being in it.. haish, people these days..
yeah – obviously it is you who have never been inside a vios and persona…either that or you’re blinded by the sheer brand name
I agree with you proton’s. we are not paying for the car..actually we are paying for the fu**kin brand.,WTF…should respect Proton for the Improvement they have done and the price is worth for this car…
And Mr.William, better you go and get your mind widen up instead of complaining Malaysian car….im wonder ass hole like you can compare import car with local car…you get stuff for what you pay…if you pay 50-60K dont expect for Toyota or honda….i know you are rich and dumb to pay Toyota…50% of that cars price you are paying for the Import Tax…Vote for Proton
i thought the same as you do …rather than wasting my money to pay for the overprice non-local car, better i buy proton.
masih rupa lama…tidak banyak perubahan..cuba lihat Honda City totally ubah segalanya..alalala…..!
cuba lihat bmw.langsung tak berubah.wakaka!!!
You’re right…
ok pe.. dr totally beza smpai xlaku watpe… hehe
em betul3….yg pnting harga still berpatutan….
btul3….yg pnting harga still berpatutan….btul x???
WTF !
At UAE Persona is only RM 36K
Waja RM 37K
Gen2 RM 33K
coz dia punye design memag dah lawa,kan kan, wat pe nk ubah, ubah pun ckit2 tapi makin mengancam kann kan
Cuba tengok muka sendiri kat cermin..ada berubah ka..?
tuan, tell me about city 2004-2005-2006-2007
semua facelift kan?tukar grille sikit2…dalam x ubah apa2..
cuma yg baru ni je diarang tukar the whole body.
y no complain?
erm..memang trend honda tukar model city,civic,accord 5 tahun skali..2008 accord, 2009 city, 2010 civic. so 2013 accord, 2014 city, 2015 civic.
Every 2 years in 5 years tu memang akan tukar facelift je. tapi name saje je xde tambah or kurang. Since trend ni tradition klo x silap aku, so orang dh bese. lagipon honda buatan luar.
As proton, of course we malaysian expect better than proton had delivered to us coz we proud of it. Price vs reliability/performance agak teruk. Sampai bile nak harapkan kerajaan imposed tax gile2 kat foreign car? Proton must do something, prove us than we happily buy our own made car without any worries.
Proton aku memanjangla wiring problem..adui..
Anyway let have people feedbacks, mane tau kali ni better
well
kna terima hakikat la yg proton nih pengecut
komen lebih2 ada la bdk bangang2 yg nk support proton
sygkn malaysia katanya
negara lain wat afta sekali dgn keta turun harga
support brg malaysia katanya
tgh imagine klu afta apply dekat honda city..terang2 persona x leh nk compete
for sure tunggu masa nk tutup kedai
wakakakakakaaka loser
tsk3… kompem tak penah naik/drive.. jgn mengutuk sahaja brother… other people have different economical situation, and the best buy for average family, with average incomes, is persona than any other in its class.. go test drive now.. dahsyat betul perangai, tak perlu nak mengutuk kat online, baik gi proton.. they opened their heart for critics for almost a few years now.. build their confidence so they can be better.. pernah tgk org jepun kutuk keta diorang???? diorang tak pedulik pun dunia luar drpd jepun… haish.. dahsyat rupanya orang kita ni.. roar,betul.. give feedback and suggestions to proton.. we can do it.. give faith to our own country..
kete jepun berkualiti tinggi sebab tu rakyat dia tak kutuk
haha..sah mamat abcde12345 bukan nak jadi org malaysia..baik buang negeri cakap camtu..hahax..baru tau berapa bertuah duduk di negeri sendiri..
makkkk kau!!…
ni faceclift…bkn new Persona model
ckp nk lebih..kalu taw spefikasi xpe gak…nak komen je,,,spatut bangga sikit anak malaysia nk wat keta sendiri…persona elegance better dr yg dulu sbb pakay IAFM inlet air fuel manifold…banding keta yg lame pakay AIM..sistem penyejukan pakay twin Fan bndg dulu stu kipas je..die punye torQue keta lebih sikt..laen kali tgk la dulu…wat test drive..baru cakap…pepon syabas proton still bertahan sampai skunk
setuju dgn kacak90,enjin 1st model dgn IAFM mmg brbeza…. aku bangga pakai persona….. kalo nk compare dgn kereta jepun yg trnyata brpuluh tahun experience mmgla…..tp utk info penggemar keta jepun,even Nissan GT-R baru tu pun mengguna-pakai teknologi Lotus utk suspension keta kebanggaan mrk yg hnya trdpat pada keta Proton skrg…..so, tkyah la nk up keta jepun sgt….x caya bukak website lotus…..GO PROTON GO!
Apa beza IAFM dgn AIM?
Lain kali cek dulu sblm ckp, BODO !
even evo pun tukar ckit2 saje. evo I,II,III same evo IV,V,VI same.. evo VII,VIII,VIIII same..just tukar ckit2 je. evo X, nnt coming soon la lg 3 tukar ckit2 je..xde plk complen.. proton je, semua nk complen
sebeb tu la nama dia evo.. haha.. kalo cepat tukar design, mesti dah x evo.. tu dah jadi revo… tol x??
even evo pun tukar ckit2 saje. evo I,II,III same evo IV,V,VI same.. evo VII,VIII,VIIII same..just tukar ckit2 je. evo X, nnt coming soon la lg 2 tukar ckit2 je..xde plk complen.. asal proton je, semua nk complen..dunia2..sign!
ko pkai la dulu br tau langit tinggi rendah..yg ko g banding ngn “jenama terbukti” watpe??sbb kualiti mmg dh bgs sbb 2 buat facelift je..ko x rase lg pkai “jenama tempatan” ni..duit perabeh kat repair..bile tnye mekanik..”ala biase le kete msia”..x caye kalo kete proton hang rosak g tanye tokeh2 wokshop tu..ape die habaq kat hang..mangkuk ayun tol..biase sgt cucok bontot org atas sbb tu puji membuta
apelah ko orag ni…banggalah sikit dgn bangsa sendiri. aku rasa pun proton dah banyak berubah…example:toyota antirust pun masih problemmmm… avanza aku baru aku tolak kedai. baru setahun 6 bulan cat dah mula keluar kurap di pintu belakng…camna… asyik nak bangga dengan kutu seberang laut…tak sedar ke ada orang tgh cari peluang kat tanah bangsa sendiri…????? Pada Proton, buktikan produk malaysia terus cemerlang….
Aku memang nak bangga dgn buatan Malaysia, tp mslhnya harga dia melampau ! Kalau kualiti ok takpe…
Kualiti RM 50k Proton vs Kualiti RM 50k Toyota = Proton kalah !
S.Roma hang nak kualiti macam mana….Toyota ke, Honda Ke, apa jua brand pun kalau langar pokok mesti kemek la…ingat honda tak apa apa ke kalau langar lori…u cakap serupa bodoh punya orang…
kita tunggu smpai bila proton nk buang sifat pengecut
we’ve supported a lot till now
enough is enough
buang la afta tuh kalau berani
silap2 CEO proton pun akan resign
kekekekekeke
honda city macam toyota corolla tahun 79 ..belakang curam sangat.. x macam persona..smart..tegap…
well done proton!
wow..
yeay,at last!
this is what i’ve been waiting for
congrats to proton!
way to go proton!!
Persona Elegance comes with a 2-year/50,000 km manufacturer’s warranty plus a 3-year/125,000 km extended warranty programme.
wow, banyak pandai sekarang…. macam waranti forte…….
how about the Persona SE? still on sale?
still no regret getting the Forte.
Kia poor resale value
Let him be. He’ll regret next year.
yala…kia maintenance also high..gud luck!!
i hear the KIA and China cars that come here are SKDs and wont pass the emark rqmt that would be placed on them if send to Europe. For that market, they send different car, homologated in UK
Nice….. Vry good! I like it.
STILL ugly to me!!!! not because of the design or anything… because of the manufacture name PROTON….
kalau keta ni jenama ferrari baru cantik la?ha?
be open minded.
ko tgk brand ker tgk kete? betul2 pemikiran mundur~
duduk je kat malaysia, tp suke jatuhkan imej negara sndiri.. pnh ke tgk org korea ke japan ke jatuhkan imej kete diorg sdri? patutnye golongan camni yang patut malu, bkn dgn adanya kete proton ni korg jd malu..
Hhhmm…we should be proud. Im proud for the new persona. Proton is moving. Dont worry, there is more from them.
I think this Persona is really nice…im considering buying it really…n i was sooo sceptical about Proton cars before…so GO Proton!!!!!! ahahahah
yeah. you are rite. we must proud with our products (Proton, Produa..) NOT QUALITY compare to others……just few year pakai then rosak macam2……….+ plastic murah…
Ye aku penah tgk org Jepun kutuk keta Mitsubishi…
Ko nak ckp apa skrg?
Bodo !
because mitshubishi is good what. still havent waken up from sleep ?
ckp pandai ngat ai try laaa pi wat design keta tngk mau serabut otak gak laaa mitubishi dah berabad teknologi dia pun berabad.. proton baru 25yers…ok la tu rase mcm naik keta gak laa…x de beza pun keta proton ngan luar…
mitsubishi bagus???bagus tang mana…penah duduk jepun ke ko??mitsubishi tu orang jepun sendiri pun tak pandang..lowest quality…no value there…ngok..
To S.Roma,
u should proud wit ours Malaysian cars like proton n perodua.. itupun klu u mngaku sbg rakyat malaysia laa.. Bukan mudah untuk menghasilkn ssebuah kereta.. experience baru 25thn maa.. itupun dh ckup membanggakn apabile ia digndingkn bersame teknologi Lotus.cube ko buat kete sendiri..amcm?? Silap2 lg hampehh!!..Jgn laa pndai nk komen jerr.. jgn dok cbuk compere ngn kete luar.. diorng pn sme gak.. ade kekurngan n klebihn like ours local cars.. PERSONA ELEGENCE mmg powerrlhh!!!
To Persona Lover,
Yes i do proud with Malaysian cars, what i do not like is the tax… stupid tax… we pay the same price with the imported cars, but why we do not get the same tech or quality?
25 years not enuf for us to supply money to government? to proton? still need our money for RnD?
U want me to make my own car? i cant becoz its not my specialties.
persona elegance power? wtf? bape HP utk enjin 1.6? torque? enjin mitsu 4G91 1.5 Dohc aje dah 113 HP… power apa enjin campro aifm tu, kena plak dgn komen kat bwh2 ni yg kata iafm ada prob, betul ke tak aku tak taw… tp ko cek sendiri la…
nape klu proton?????? ko ada mslh ker?ke ko bkn orang malaysia???nama je dah 52 tahun merdeka,fikiran masih kolot dan tidak terbuka!!!!!!
ya…kita mesti berfikiran terbuka…haha…nilah akibat kalo dh terpengaruh ngan propaganda proton..
don’t be fool…fyi, proton takde untung for 20yrs in business. ko patut bleh pkir dr mn datang duit tuk slamatkan proton nih…
emm, susah gak ade orag camnie,x bleh jadi bos, atau ketua, benci atas sebab yang x munasabah lagsung.,
Buy Malaysian Product. Promote our economy gets better. We live better Isn’t that the way it should be. The Koreans and Japs did it the same way although their product were really crap 5o yrs. ago, But they got better at it and now have surpassed the quality of American or British product.
Today we are at par with our colonial master in terms of manufacturing. Lets be proud of Malaysian manufacturing achievements!!!
ni lah yg dikatakan..negara dah merdeka..tp minda x merdeka gak lagi..aku simpati kat org mcm ni….
Good! I like tis car vry much.
i lyke:)
wow!!! so nice
I like the meter cluster. Similar to Defi meters. However, the engine is a let down.
nice!
nice….
Ai yo….. not much difference to me
cool…..
nice!
ade kemajuan tp perlu d’tingktkn lg…..klu proton kuar kereta proton yg ade ‘sun roof ‘plk tuk bdk2 muda cm aku kan bgus….xdela diaorg gler kereta luar lg….design smart2 n jual ngn harga mampu milik..mesti dpt smbutan……proud to be a malaysian…..love proton
betul gak.. tapi pasal sunroof tak sesuai la bro… Malaysia’s climate boleh rosakkan sun roof.. banyak kes macam tu.. better no sunroof daripada ada, pastu asik kena tukar getah sunroof.. da tanya banyak mechanics haritu… hehe… anyway, LOVE PROTON gak… go go, we know u can be even better.. prove to some of the negative people out there that as long we Malaysians work hard, we can achieve anything..
Itu mslh pd material getah tu…
Bkn sunroof nya !
Carilah getah yg bleh tahan dgn climate kat malaysia ni…
Apa la mgkuk la ko ni…
Aku rasa mamat S.Roma ni kena tinggal GF/BINI dialah…menyumpah org je keje….
Aku dah tukar 3 kali getah sunroof aku…mcm2 jenis dah guna…nyaris2 pakai getah sekerap…cakap mmg senang beb
uit,main kutuk orang plak dah.. haha.. i also chat with some mechanics, some are close friends.. and yes, the getah problem, is found in all car la brother yg pandai..(orang aje yg bodoh)… mercedes,bmw.. my friend in campus even seal the sunroof, no use at all.. water leak he say.. haha..
ko nih mmg looser arr s.roma… keje nk kutuk org jer… org macam kau nih mmg takkan maju smpai biler2.. hehehhe (^_^)
saya setuju…………
sun roof ape nye.. msia ni negara panas..xpayah ber sun roof bagai.. baik mintak benarkan tinted gelap, diaorg ingt kite suke2 ke nk tinted gelap..this is msia hokey.. matahari sgt dekat, hbs semua rakyat gelap..huhuhu
aaa, em kena mintak pengeluar krim cipta tinted untuk kulit kot, heheh
proton electronic problem…n function kurang memuaskan…tingkatkan pretasi electronic proton!!! go proton go….yg lain mantop…
nice seat fabric design!!
ade sebab tersendiri ke kenapa proton tak sumbat CPS terus dlm persona baru ni? kenapa pakai iafm lagi?
btw, 32bit ecu tu bleh tune lebih lagi ke? proton bleh buatkan ke? rugi le ecu 32bit tak fully utilized..
anyways, menarik gak persona elegance ni..cumanya sedikit hampa sbb tak pakai cps je…
bkn cps tu proton’s best engine ke? adoi la…
Agreed w u. At least CPS for H-Line + Passenger Airbag
PELIK GAK..
BEST ENGINE OF PROTON XMASUKKN SKALI DLM PERSONA ELEGANCE NI.. KLU X LAGI RAMAI RSNYE NK AMIK KETE NI.. NGAN EXTERIOR DA IMPROVE, NP X LETAK ENGINE YANG SEPADAN NGAN RUPANYA..
aku bajet die x masukkan lg enjin CPS tu sbb die nk simpan utk new facelift skali lg…so bila launch skali lg…akan nmpk la proton ni ade je continuous improvement….
i want one
..tukar lampu… tambah side mirror lamp….become ELEGANCE .Anyway congrats proton. add on la 6 airbags like Forte. mesti ramai yang nak neli
nice touch-up but too bad not in the hood……
how about back seat?any improvement?or still straight like before?
i think they change the rear seat angle. I quote from paultan.org :
* The seat backrest angle has been changed to offer better comfort.
* Extra soundproofing material has been added to pillars to improve interior NVH.
* Despite power output and torque being the same, a source has indicated that the engine should feel livelier and more responsive. We’ll try to get an initial impression from the showrooms over this weekend.
hehe… macam best… nak test drive la this one…
Well done Proton.
for a low budget consumers, i think this is the car for them. But for me, (even so i’m also in the budget consumers) – i dont thing proton is the best choise
yee laaa, untuk yg bajet kuren baik jugak la dapat gak keta baru walau harga rendah kan, tapi nak pakai jenama terkenal coz kete ok kononnyelah kan, harga nak same keta tempatan yag baru tapi dah pakai kat sepuloh taun wat pe., saye dah 2 taun pakai proton, ade la ckit2 problem tapi ok le, niceeeeeeee.,.ape laiiii yg jadikannye not the best choice untuk golongan miskin pakai keta baru..
1st..Me no money to buy
Boring… Still ancient engine technology with IAFM again! Sigh…
No big changes, still the same feeling, and I personally don’t like the steering. Previously used to drive company’s GEN2 around, the feeling of the steering is abit of weird.
But for the price, nothing much to complaint. Lets wait for waja replacement maybe? :p
ya agree…im using gen2..realy hate dat steering…but the gen2 cps is better…
Jonathan Lim said,
March 18, 2010 @ 2:56 pm
Ai yo….. not much difference to me
yeah agreed with u.. haha..however i like the tail light..
the interior material looks like the same as old model..
and i totally hate that..after 2years..worn out badly…
wondering about the crash test..is it ok for persona?
That makes my 2009 Persona looks older
The rear view mirror has auto chromic function. That is a first for Proton. Nice one.
Not too shabby for a low price model. Like the new grill design
the medium line gets GPS unit. tak aci…
How much the price for OEM rearlamp? i should update my Persona SE rearlamp a.s.a.p. can smoke Civic on the highway one more time..haha..
Last persona from gen2-mahaleel platform?
Nice!!
Anonymous said,
March 18, 2010 @ 3:06 pm
That makes my 2009 Persona looks older
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actualy, the owner getting older
everything is nice, but need a better fuel consumption engine.
Hi Danny, I was told that the rear seat angle has been adjust to lower position, more comfortable for long distance journey compare to previous version, any pictures or info regarding this?
Correction, if im not mistaken the colour for HL is not Briliant red…. but its Fire Red
persona elegance? yeah…elgegantly cheap plastic…..bleh..
and the centre console….looks really cheapo for an “elegant” car….fail…but then again…many people will still buy it…
cam.shaft
Having the GPS stuck on the windscreen is askign for trouble. Just like leaving the Smart Tag on.
The Persona seems to have made some mature progress: the leather seats are looking good, the radio + USB are an interesting add on for all the iPhone/iPod users (and other peripherals), the LEDs, speedometer and body kit.
However, Proton should seriously consider upping the Campro. Why was the CPS not considered for the Persona?
All in all, a decent, cheap car that makes it an interesting entry level for young families, but I’m pretty sure we are all drooling for, finally, a major overhaul of the platform, design, quality and mechanics…
Sudah tempah~
Nice car. Value for money, really thinking of replacing myu current ride with this, but afterall better hold on for completely new persona in 2 and a half years time. Good job Proton!
When will upgrade to CPS engine?
For those who feel that this car sucks. Then go join Proton to produce a new whole lot better car but probably you might not be qualified.
buat screw pun goyang bang…….material apa pakai ek…?
ckp nak bagus je….agreed
And so the 2nd hand value of current Personas have gone done the drain…
edge said,
masih rupa lama…tidak banyak perubahan..cuba lihat Honda City totally ubah segalanya..alalala…..!
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ni facelift la bengong! honda city changed totally because that is the all-new model. dont care to comment unless u wise enuff, elstupido
tu la bila kata bengong marah pulak!! lain kali selidik sebelum kata!! ROFL!!
ntah…bengong x abih2…
nk cari modal nk kutuk proton…bingai
betul tu aku sokong coz lau persona biasa aku pakai dah baguih petah lagi Persona Elegence…BETUL X????
Forte also plastic, why no complaint. New Civic more worse for taller people why no complaint. hehehehe. I been to so many country like USA, Korea, Japan & Europe. They really support their product and national product.
Why can’t we do the same. Did anyone see what will be the outcome if we do not support local product. No internal money flow = no production=no labor needed= no job= poor country….. can you all tanam padi or toreh getah…itu pun upah indonesia or bangla….
Forte got 6 airbags, start stop button, 4 stars crash rating ma, who wanna complain. Civic Europe lain ma, itu hatchback, kita sedan. Of cos diaorg support tengokla keta jenama apa yg diaorg export, 1 lagi keta diaorg MURAH berbanding dgn gaji mereka.
Kita boleh jika…. (maleh nk cakap, ramai dah ckp kat atas). Yes, More internal money flow=better economy=lower cost of living=keta MURAH..
Klon B….
safety tu x penting sgt bg saya….cukup ada seatbelt..
kalu x mau acdent kaut…jgn bawa laju2..
kalu 5 stars crash rating pn…kalu dh kena langar lori balak..dh xda makna lg 5 stars crash ratingtu..
kalu mau selamat drive pelahan2…pandu cermat jiwa selamat…ingatla orang yang tersayang…
bagi saya…selalunya mrk mau org tau mrk ada byk duit mampu beli keta lawa2…like toyota, benz, bmw, dll la….faham2 la sendiri..bagi yg tak faham buat2la faham or kmu memang sma mcm mrk tu,,,
bagi saya..kalu dh xda buget mau beli keta lawa2 tu…beli la keta proton…x payah kutuk2…
kalu saya ada duit saya akan beli semua keta yang ada…paling saya minat..sport car..ferrari..lamborghini..SLR..dll
malas saya mau ckp lg…beli la apa yang mampu..
I been to so many country like USA, Korea, Japan & Europe.
“many countries…”
so not cool to me..no matter how long the name of this car,still,so yesterday..lalala~
provoke…
good job “persona elegance”…
facelift yang klass..
I wanna buy it… tapi nak kawin dulu la…
good job on the side mirror…still got no news about the waja??
woooooooow..i like the side mirror turning lamp. somethg new.
Peyno my boy, time to sell your savvy and myvi, and upgrade to this power facelifted persona!!!!!!!!!!!
malaysia boleh!!!!
lampu depan too small…
satu lagi persona elegance improve NVH. ada perbezaan noise dari model lama dgn baru. 32bit ecu give quicker respon. get a test drive!
Nice & Better than Alza & Myvi
nice… price is ok la… not to high…
but why no passenger sit pic??? only show front sit until now… hmm…
So you need to pay 60K to get 2 airbags?
Even for the patriotic, thats a steep price to pay…..
Pay 69k for Vios J without single damn airbag, plus boat handling, sure safe for u right?
Haha…how to compare the two Vios is tax at 75%-85% and Proton is tax at less than 25%…..If foreign cars would have been taxed at the same level they could be cheaper than any proton car….
Proton car is protected for last 20 years not only that government keep pumping tax payers money to keep it continue operating…not only it is protected with lower tax, tax payers money has been used to keep the company just to survive…just 3 years ago government pump another 75million to keep it operating….not to mention larger amount before that….when it make loss government will pump tax payer money .nothing to be proud of of a company already around for 20 years…don’t just say japanese car has been there how many years…….just compare with Korea is good enough….15 years ago Korean is poorer than us….their economy is behind us…if we are not doing anything….we may one day becoming one of the poor country even Indon overtake us…15-20 years is long enough to mature.
Dear Protected,
I agree with u. We pay same price like vios, maybe even more then vios, but we got the old tech and quality. wtf man…
waja CPS would be my last proton no matter how nice this new one is
60K for the top of the range????? mahal nya. nothing interesting pon still nothing great
no white colour?
quite good . keep it up proton.!!
3rd picture from main article…looks like MerC, Rawl!~!!!!!
Qoute:
“This move – the 32bit EMS – is also in preparation for the new Project Phoenix engine that we will soon see in Protons, which will require the capabilities of the new ECU.”
Unquoute:
Hi Paul, do you have any info on the new Project Phoenix engine?
As of Phoenix, is a mythical bird creature that self-combustion at its end of life-cycle and from the ashes rise a new bird and live all over again…
Wow, just imagine if the new proton’s engine is like that!
Cheers bro, I am gonna book that car next week.
Even more funny.
The 46K baseline has NO airbags and NO pretensioning seatbelts ….WOW…what is this? 1970?
That pretensioning seatbelt part must be a typo…..
What is this?! Life is sure cheap for the lower income group…
Sucks to be poor eh? Proton doesn’t even think you deserve pretensioning seatbelts.
I think proton is smart enough to market their car.. richer can get the highest spec and vice versa.
It’s not about safety bro, win-win situation la.. if you paid more, you get more..
Too smart, even the highest spec is nothing to shout about.
All car manufacturers don’t care about the users life, all they care about is making tons of money and squeezing the users pockets dry through product recalls & maintenance.
dzqwr said,
March 18, 2010 @ 2:36 pm
berapa byk facelift da…
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Satu.
dzqwr said,
March 18, 2010 @ 2:36 pm
berapa byk facelift da…
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Satu.
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1-Persona IAFM
2-Persona SE
3-Persona Elegence
maka, jawapannya adalah=3..
1- Persona IAFM
Ini nama ori Persona mana ade facelift
2-Persona SE
Ini Persona Special , Persona ori put ada lagi masa tu so tak kira facelift la….
3-Persona Elegance
Inilah baru kira facelift, persona ori dan special dah tak ade.
Jumlah 1 kali facelift shj.
Come on la..Persona and Gen.2 is two different car..
The seats look so cheap and uncomfortable!
2 things:
1. Why no CPS engine???
2. Why only 9 nos. of LEDs for the rear lamp? too few IMHO for the light cluster…
front looks like mk5 golf gti.not bad tho..
AripSon,
Well said!! haha…end of life then kaboom
eh ada cps la… engineer proton kata ade..
I would rather buy persona even without ABS, EBD and 4 airbags than Myvi equipped with all safety features above. I’ve seen fatal crash involving Myvi, but heard so many terrible accidents involving persona without fatality i.e. last week news in Kota Tinggi. IMO new gen proton cars are safe thanks to strong body frame. Never trust P2 cars downgraded body frame. Poor P2.
4 airbags ? Its 2 airbags
banyak2 air bag wat pe…semak je…klu x pakai seat belt serupa tu gak kene hentam ngan air bag…sakit do…tambah laa empat…lagi parah..
So, basically you’re saying that you gonna buy a car without any proper safety equipments bcos of malaysian crash statistics. Cute.. first time i’ve heard of this novel way of buying cars.
I don’t see anything ‘Elegance’ at all!
Soon, they’ll be calling Proton Saga…Luxury or Avantgarde or Masterpiece.
Yalah, maybe for Mat Kampung!
edge said,
March 18, 2010 @ 2:45 pm
masih rupa lama…tidak banyak perubahan..cuba lihat Honda City totally ubah segalanya..alalala…..!
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did u mean 4th and 5th city generation…aiyoo!! that new design car not facelift..can u differentiate bet 5th gen city 2007, 2008 n 2009
rookie said,
March 18, 2010 @ 2:59 pm
ade sebab tersendiri ke kenapa proton tak sumbat CPS terus dlm persona baru ni? kenapa pakai iafm lagi?
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Kalau bubuh CPS, abesla Gen-2 tak laku. Proton nak buat Persona ni cam City i-DSi, Gen-2 City VTEC.
Dahlah berani Proton bagi 5 year warranty, kalau orang komplen lagi memang nak kena penampar sekor-sekor!
for 67K Alza, you got 8 airbags? …. moron
4G63tDSM said,
March 18, 2010 @ 3:45 pm
Even more funny.
The 46K baseline has NO airbags and NO pretensioning seatbelts ….WOW…what is this? 1970?
That pretensioning seatbelt part must be a typo…..
What is this?! Life is sure cheap for the lower income group…
Sucks to be poor eh? Proton doesn’t even think you deserve pretensioning seatbelts.
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just buy high line…y whining..still do u want to buy if 20 airbag in proton
yup…. simple as that…
dun woorryy..be happy..
kudos on new facelift…..in addition, and hopefully, the bulit quality is plesantly solid by now,……for new buy, classical lame problems such as squeaks, rattling and knocking sound should no longer present like b4…….if not…*sigh*
wow!!! Congratulation PROTON.. Nice car.. Really Cool “Side Mirror”. Look more sporty..
i love the side mirror…but the speedometer looks too cluttered
u luv the side mirror…
but I love this car….
4G63tDSM said,
March 18, 2010 @ 3:35 pm
So you need to pay 60K to get 2 airbags?
Even for the patriotic, thats a steep price to pay…..
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My friend, Vios J spec no airbags 69K care to explain?
wow… persona HL vs vios BL.. dun u think thats a bit unfair.. or isit.. hmmm..
sr20det said,
March 18, 2010 @ 2:41 pm
boleh tahan la rupa dia..
tapi gps jenis lekat kat cermin… to bad….
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U want something that is easy to get off? good, let me steal ur GPS then !
Nice car, value for money compare to Myvi & Alza with 1.3 CC and 1.5CC
engine.
Eh ? I never knew Perodua produced Myvi with 1.3CC and Alza with 1.5CC
Perodua produce 1.3 cars named Myvi 1.3 ZHL (Myvi Exclusive Edition – Automatic Transmission), Alza comes with 1.5. Be Malaysian, buy Malaysian. Go Proton.
Fndnzr, is your comment addressed to me ?
obviously la bro
But Perodua Myvi doens’t come with 1.3CC!
A motorcycle comes with 110cc
A Perodua Myvi comes with either 989cc or 1298cc engine
So it 1.0L or 1.3L
see Toyota vios j,it doesn’t have any airbags
and that’s a car produced by toyota
Everything is down to the badge
4G63tDSM said,
March 18, 2010 @ 3:35 pm
So you need to pay 60K to get 2 airbags?
Even for the patriotic, thats a steep price to pay…..
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at least hav 2 better than non……u use ur seatbelt?? or give signal when change lane?? or stop when re light…do u queuing when road jammed..patriotic no patriotic
dzqwr said,
March 18, 2010 @ 2:36 pm
berapa byk facelift da…
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Myvi from P2 lagi banyak daaaaaaaaaa…………….
ni baru satuuuuuuuuuuu….
SO UGLY DESIGN …….. POOR QUALITY ……….. BETTER SPEND MORE TO BUY JAPAN TOYOTA OR HONDA ….
WITH LOCAL MAKE STILL PRICE SO HIGH …
Alahai, naper nak dibanggakan sgt kereta luar. kerete toyota pon siap kena kutuk kat US. kena recall… ada gak yang rosak power window. master key utk rembat keter dah melambak(> 100 tahun pengalaman dlm dunia automotif). cuba la kutuk proton utk membina skit..bg idea. aku rasa engineer proton tu giler design yg power2. cuma talent tersekat dgn kesesuaian dgn org malaysia jer..saper sokong aku???
aku sokong
aku pon sokong….. design cukup cantik dah….. esp rear lamp ngan side mirror
aku sokong gak…leh tahan la engineer proton design proton pesona ni…mmg ada klass nye yg tersendiri.Aku dah beli pun satu…memang elegant la….so korang yg takat mampu beli krete yg harga rendah2 ni aku suggest beli je pesona…nak cari spare part pun banyak kan.lagi pun kereta ni kereta popular kat mane2 bank. so nak buat pinjaman pun takde masalah…kecuali kalu nama korang black list…tu tak dapat nak tolong..
better buy T n H coz that manufactured from thai…hahaha
proud to buy one product from japan but the manufacturing at thai..hahaha
thats funny..
i agreed with pro proton the T vios have aproblem also like timing belt n other else need to recall..hahaha n H have problem also with engine mount..hmmm
all vehicles have all their defects and depends on buyer what they need..
not u creative to crictics this proton..walaooo
emm, bangge ler coz jenama tapi kualiti ntah die tau ke x, nak murah ang p kedai potong, bahgian depan honda,belakang buh la toyota, jadilah kete cap DAYOTA kebanggaan lu.
kalo proton dah settelkan problem pasal IAFM cepat kong tuh…menarik gak angkat persona ni..rugi keta cun tp selalu kena anto SC..huhu
hmm… ok la ‘facelift’ ni. ada peningkatan. perubahan yg sederhana tetapi menarik.
ada rezeki mmg tempah bulan depan. mmg puas hati. harga pun xbanyak sgt naik berbanding model pertama.
klu dgn lampu depan pun tukar wajah huuuuu lagi mantap seblum perubahan model persona yg akan dtg selepas ni.
overall this version is nice……………. bravo to proton and keep it up for more improvement in near future. By the way Proton, dont keep the waja replacement too long in your garage, dont let people waiting too long. Fed up of waiting might opt for other makes.
thunderbird said,
March 18, 2010 @ 3:13 pm
everything is nice, but need a better fuel consumption engine.
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U expect what? 1 litre can go for 100 km? insane la, the FC already nice la… 1 litre can go for 15 KM. Asian auto car award already 2nd, 1st is Vios (with VVTi Engine) while we only use Campro IAFM already can go for no 2. That is nice already la…
Finally out after all those teasers. Looks nice, not great just a minor improvement.
Paul, the car I think a lot of us are waiting for is the new waja replacement. Any news on that?
As for for Phoenix project, is that the Turbocharged engine they working with Lotus. A similar project collaboration BMW & Puegeot-Citroen did with the EP6 engine? What the status of that project? Be really great if they can fit that on the underpowered Exora.
4G63tDSM said,
March 18, 2010 @ 3:45 pm
Even more funny.
The 46K baseline has NO airbags and NO pretensioning seatbelts ….WOW…what is this? 1970?
That pretensioning seatbelt part must be a typo…..
What is this?! Life is sure cheap for the lower income group…
Sucks to be poor eh? Proton doesn’t even think you deserve pretensioning seatbelts.
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stupid, dont u know that only latio 1.8 cvtc offer seatbelt with pretensioner and load limiter, how about 1.6st manual n auto n 1.6st-l? dont have one right, but no comment becoz japan car right. this is the link
http://www.nissan.com.my/vehicles/latio/latio/techspecs/specifications2.html
so protn offer for 1.6 m-line n h-line, so they are better offering than the nissan right, mr 4G63tDSM.
normally, in proton, all pretensioner n load limiter for airbags equip cars. even honda jazz in malaysia doesnt mentioned about load limiter, do u think that they provide it or not?
but for nissan, even grandlivina didnt offer pretensioner n load limiter as per latio, but people never care becoz of japang car.
persona equip with collapsible steering column even u didnt know that right, not only persona, savvy, blm, exora, gen2 also have one.
pity u la mr 4G63tDSM, complain complain complain. i dont think u know the function of PREtensioning seatbelts. Ask 1st la dont simply complain
pumpkin76 said,
March 18, 2010 @ 3:53 pm
2 things:
1. Why no CPS engine???
2. Why only 9 nos. of LEDs for the rear lamp? too few IMHO for the light cluster…
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1. To avoid competition between their own models
2. How many you want? Give you 12 later you ask why only 12. Give you 20 later you ask why only 20. Give you 50 later you ask why 50 so many.
SO ULGY ………… LOUSY TECHNOLOGY
SO EXPENSIVE EVEN LOCAL MAKE …
BETTER ADD RM 20K TO BUY CITY OR VIOUS MORE RELIABLE …
STILL HONDA AND TOYATO THE BEST IN ASIA AUTO MANUFACTURING
DAMN ………………………… LOCAL MAKE
Sounds so un’creative’. ‘Toyato’ summore. Are u sure wanna use creative as your nickname?
its really make me sick..LOL!
emm, jenama keta afrika ke toyato, same toya laaa,
hang memang toya ah..
Too bad about the steering wheel…otherwise, it’s a nice car.
It is useless to replace the 32 Bits ECU when the power window technology still haven’t develop yet. Haha.
Lan Pah Pah Lan, not much diff…
The front look OK, the sit look OK, but it still a personnal with same engine, same output, So, I don;t think It can secure a lot of order lor…
currently,it did.. saw so many of elegance on the road in KL now.. it all depends on the first hand experience..
try test drive, maybe u will book one too.. hehe.. 
edge said,
masih rupa lama…tidak banyak perubahan..cuba lihat Honda City totally ubah segalanya..alalala…..!
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ni facelift la bengong! honda city changed totally because that is the all-new model. dont care to comment unless u wise enuff, elstupido
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bodoh punya edge. tak tau beza ke facelift dgn new model? apa ko ingat honda facelift tukar semua ke? poor noob!
aku minat honda city baru mcm tranfomers tu kn….tp kn…mahal kn…jd pkai la proton utk yg xbanyak duit mcm aku,xpayah banding la kete honda mmg la best cantik.tp proton still bagus sebab amik anak bangsa buat kete.kita kene pikir susah dari segi kajian R&D diorang nk buat kete.sebab kita dh makin xtiru mana2 pengeluar yg hebat2.bukan satu malam bley perfect dari segi design,stylish,engineering,dan sebagainya..jd proton kene kuarkn jugak model baru setiap tahun bagi menandingi pasaran kete luar.rosak2 2 biasa la kn…kita baru lg.ye tak…dah dah jgn bising sume..ada duit kita beli yg mahal,xde duit kita pkai je kete murah2.jgn nk ckp pandai,kita bukan keje bidang buat kete pn.kn kn kn…bye
So Proton still not yet offer minimum 20-years warranty.
Why should bank charge double-standard 4 pct loan interest rate if quality claimed improved for Proton? What bank also don’t believe Proton is improved?
Ok lah interest rate higher for national cars but only for ex-factory price. Hidden car taxes duties should not be covered by interest rate by banks.
Oh ya that’s why Naza Forte 1.6 starts RM70K but this Persona maximum price RM60K. Hehehe same friend cover each other huh, when Forte easily RM50k fair market price.
Bank not follow the car itself, but they follow market. And our local automative market is heavily base on the people sentiment.
ugly,seems like proton knows nothing about design,a simple job like facelift also cannot do nicer.
very nice…..charming car..value for money
waiting for the PERSONA R.the superb design from proton. European style.
nice facelift…..just wait new “waja”
just wait new waja??
beli x mau ka??
lawa wooo…
minor cosmetic change.. sigh
32-bit ECU for show only
And that seat fabric looks like dog paw mark. Woof! Woof!
pity to proton.no matter what they do, there are still blind bashers.facelift pun tak tahu bezakan dgn new model..haih.
only 1 thing i realize. the real blind bashers never touch about proton ride and handling. Or the blind bashers never drive proton. that why they can’t comment about that area..hehe.At least proton cars have a very good ride and handling.
for this facelift, it will boost the selling.
its true la dido come to think of your comment, i think they never drive proton. komplen saja tau aparaa
nicely done for a facelift. now show us spyshot of waja rep model and spy detail on the pheonix project.
Proton could make it memorable to launch the pheonix project from the dying pheonix plaza. (lame joke)
KZM,
You just made one of the most foolish and irresponsible comments ever.
Do you know why people are asking for Airbags? Because Malaysia so happens to have one of the highest road-toll deaths per capita in the world. This is why people want airbags. It’s definitely more important to have the whole security arsenal, both passive and active, instead of having a screaming 300hp engine, isn’t it now?
And your second comment about buying H-Line to get airbags is just as foolish if not more; not all Malaysians can afford to fork out an extra 10k-15k just for a couple airbags and ABS/EBD. Malaysians, generally speaking, are already handicapped enough with ENORMOUS car loans extending up to 10 years (unheard of in most countries). The last thing you’d want is having to spend an extra 20% for airbags. Having a safe and secure car is a RIGHT, not an OPTION. And Proton is still tremendously lacking and I feel, is swiping disrespect to poorer Malaysians who simply cannot afford an H-Line. Why do you think there are so many Kancils out there? Because people like them?!
So yes, 4G63tDSM is right: Malaysians must ask for better protection in their cars and it shouldn’t be an option. PERIOD.
KZM, just think next time before pouncing on anyone.
i agree.. but sad to say, our attitude has to change.. i know cause i used to have that, before i nearly involved in a head on collision with another car.. so,even if we buy a 5 star safety rating, we have to change our driving attitude too..
get what i mean? i still remember that “mangkuk”(sorry,i never forget him.. grrr) who overtake other car at a sharp corner, and also the pakcik who never lets the “bowl” to overtake his car… and i ended up on the road side, hitting my brakes, heart rate like crazy.. so,proton,please come out with a better package for safety,go Proton.. and other people, be creative in commenting, dont be brash.. 
we have to be together,united to make sure our country is better in the future.. 
I just have a question about the radio, it has a USB port, but can you plug an iPod and play? Because some radio do have USB port but still have to use special iPod cable to play. Can this play the iPod right out of the box?
haizzzz got 32bit cpu but fully unutilized. which means same old fuel guzzler 16bit cpu like the current persona eh? hurmmmm
just enough to be an owner of proton..
hehe
what a very bad day with persona i experienced n even with my late gen2 before..huhu
just want to say sayonara to persona n to forte, here i come
bontot tinggi mcm itik pulang petang..
The vertical aircon dials is wasting space. Iyelah tunjuk kreatif (from Gen2) kononnya.
Here local market looks syok sendiri lah. For global market now well, 10 years outdated Gen2 design.
Takpelah it’s Enhancement like cucuk botox lah. Nanti jadi anak dara tua tak laku pulak.
Innova, Avanza, originated from 70s platform. Yes Toyota is so global.
enjin same as my fathers 1970s toyota ke30, i quote from my fathers friend who work as a mechanic..
true or not, i dont know.. only the mechanics know.. 
The side mirror is a nice touch.
But not elegance enough..
hmm..my suggestion,
i)Apply the side mirror indication light design to the rear light!!!
ii)Time to update to HID to the front lamp. don’t you think?
iii)Move the emblem to middle. with thought the chrome bar like the gen2 cps.
Like that only fit to call elegance mar…
Even more funny.
The 46K baseline has NO airbags and NO pretensioning seatbelts ….WOW…what is this? 1970?
That pretensioning seatbelt part must be a typo…..
What is this?! Life is sure cheap for the lower income group…
Sucks to be poor eh? Proton doesn’t even think you deserve pretensioning seatbelts.
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Do you know? Airbags + pretensioner belt and ABS + EBD these kind of low tech stuffs is very “advanced” for Proton (+Perodua)! They (Proton + Perodua) think that bodykits, LED lamp, smoked lamp, fancy grille, chrome door handle are more essential for life saving. Don’t even think about Stability Control & Traction Control in Proton Car for the coming10 years.
walaupun aku penyokong proton.. tp mengecewakanlah brand nih, dashboard makin hodoh, rupa luaran biase saje, takde taste ke designer proton ni? cubalah buat something with passion skit..
Memang lah 5year warranty. “sparepart kena tunggu 3bulan, bang. Takde stock”…. “boleh tinggal side mirror dulu tak, kita cat dan panggil you mai angkat”……”sorry bang, cat tak lekat kat side mirror waja 20th Aniversary pasal cat maroon ni belum sampai 20 tahun lagi”…
and one more thing…. dun go whining bout the low-spec’s spec…. just buy the high-line.
Nice nose, aggressive looks like a copperhead like Toyota Supra?
dzqwr said,
March 18, 2010 @ 2:36 pm
berapa byk facelift da…
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wrong, this is the first facelift. Before this you have the special edition which is not considered as facelift. But then again… we are too familiar with the gen2 looks… so, even if the Persona is a handsome car, it doesnt seem special anymore.
if just a normal usb, then I think you need that Ipod converter cable for it to work. Its not like ipod will connect to it dirrectly.
Is the GPS permanently fixed to the window? I can imagine theifs breaking into the car and stealing it.
32 bit cpu-so you can bring this to an independent garage and have it retuned for more extra options?
I don’t like to condemn or complaint because I am not a Proton user… But people. Please give Proton a chance. Don’t summarize it if you don’t feel it yet. Do not complaint it if you do not own one. Buy it first or try it first then only make a conclusion. For the price wise, this is affordable. Good Look, Less Price..
Quote “the Persona Elegance comes with a 2-year/50,000 km manufacturer’s warranty plus a 3-year/125,000 km extended warranty programme – that’s a total of 5 years.”
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what does this means? do ppl can opt for only 2year warrant? if that so,if opt for 2 year warranty,is that meaning ppl can buy it with lower interest rate? can somebody plz explain this?? me newbie
KZM…
why u not complain when 70k vios does not have airbag?why? if u want to have dual airbags go for high line…
do you know how the CAMPRO engine name is derived ?
…. the engine is “campur” version macam engine rojak, then came the name CAMPRO
ape yg campur??ko igt nk bwat enjin 2 sng ke basikal tua??bodoh ko ni??
tau nk kondem je jenama m’sia..
tp klu yg kluar ni toyota ke,honda ke even mitsubishi skali pun,melambung2 puji..
padahal spec kete jepun 2 lebih kurg je ngn m’sia ni..
ko ni xlyk dok m’sia..better go to timor leste la..baru ko tau..bodoh!!!
basikal tua..klu ko rasa hebat sangat nak kutuk enjin Campro tu..meh aku bagi ko buku Combustion Enjin, nota U aku dulu, n tutorial aku..meh aku nak tgk ko dpt calculate smua tak utk buat enjin yg bernas lagi power mcm yg Mr Basikal Tua inginkn..berapa power output, displacement, fuel consumption, power to weight ratio, turbulent dlm enjin and smua yg bkaitan..biar aku n mr anas jd lec tgk ko ckp terer tak smpai nak kutuk enjin tu mcm tu..
ps: kpada yg rasa hebat sangat nak kutuk..aku nasihatkn ambil kursus degree in mechanical engineering major in automotive dulu..pas tu ko skor tggi n design 1 engine or kete yg power scara CALCULATION only..then bru ko layak kutuk keta Malaysia..come on la geng, proton bru 25thn..bagi la pluang kita nak kejar pengeluar kete yg dah lama kat luar tu..aku percaya, engineer proton n designer mmg betul2 nak buat kete kita lawa lg power..but kita kena fikir byk limitation yg perlu d’consider..
jangan marah, die nie orang kampung kot, nama kagpg die pinang sebatang sebab tepi rumah die ade sebatang pokok pinang,.emm sebab tu lah mentality cam 2.
hahaha….susah dol buat engine….basikal tua asik naik basikal je mane dia tau pasal engine nie…dia tau spoket ngan preweng mampuih ja….
dzqwr said,
March 18, 2010 @ 2:36 pm
berapa byk facelift da…
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This is the first facelift for Persona. The special edition doenst count as a facelift. But still, the Gen2 looks are all too familiar nowadays…
On the topic of airbags… well, it shouldnt be an option anymore. But we just have to accept that some Malaysians does does not want to pay the extra money for airbags. Not selling cars without airbags will mean less sales. Thats why they still have them.
test drive dulu baru komen/hentam beb. lagi sedap drive dari persona lama. nvh improved. ecu lagi responsive. rasanya korang ni takat drive proton nak laju kat straight line je kot. try drive gila2 dgn ecu baru ni.
Jenny said,
March 18, 2010 @ 5:00 pm
I don’t like to condemn or complaint because I am not a Proton user… But people. Please give Proton a chance. Don’t summarize it if you don’t feel it yet. Do not complaint it if you do not own one. Buy it first or try it first then only make a conclusion. For the price wise, this is affordable. Good Look, Less Price..
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Dear Jenny,
Thank you for you sweet comment. But bear in mind, anybody could be saying the same thing to you. DO NOT PRAISE Proton if you haven’t actually own and drive one. Seriously. Have a nice day darling~
When I was asked a question on how’s your Proton car is doing? My answer would be;
“Proton is a car which you bought in the morning, later in the evening you want to sell it back”.
Thank you for reading!
paul,
theres too many complain whether the gps is permananent fixed or whether it can be remove for safety purpose,can u plz confirm it back to proton ppl?
nice!
KZM is totally made the most foolish and irresponsible comments ever!!!!
Why proton never think/plan to develop the R version to demonstrate their capability in developing performance and realiabity image to industry? Apparently, I am still struggling to identify the Proton’s brand values? Perhaps fit for purpose? Having said that, I must say Proton has improved their chassis very much..
satu lagi, mmg kami layak nk komen ape2 pun pasal proton sbb kami adalah rakyat Malaysia yang byk berkorban untuk selamatkan proton.. kenapa kereta brand lain boleh hasilkan kereta yang designnye bagus dan kualitinya bagus tapi proton semacam ala kadar sahaja!! Sungguh mengecewakan!
tapi kmu org komen lebih2…bukan bg komen yang menbina..
boodooh..
saport la orang sendiri..kamu yang menampakkan sangat kebodohan kamu sokong orang luar yang suatu ketika dulu pernah jajah tanah air kita..fikir laaa…b0odo0h.
bukan mau balas dendam tapi majukan lagi tanah air kita supaya negara luar sedar yang kita dah tidak boleh dijajah lagi dan kita x lemah lagi mcm dulu..
duri dalam daging la kamu2 nie yang komen entah apa2.. mana ada perkara yang tetiba terus jadi mantap. adaka???? mesti kena mula dari bawah laaaaa…klu dah jatuh nanti boleh bangun semula sebab dah ada pengalaman dari bawah…
the steering wheel is kinda boring already, why no new design? doesnt have the feel of elegance…..
proton should design a new bumper instead of some cheap-looking bodykits… 1-piece is always better than add-on lips, skirtings etc…
previous taillight is better, this is like 1 step backward, too conservative…
persona and gen2 should looks young, trendy and futuristic, if they’re targeting uncles/aunties, then should come out with Perdana replacement…
Cantik la tu..jauh lebih smart dr vios.
Cantik lah tu, jauh lebih smart dr vios
Just slightly better than previous. At least the price hike is moderately I guess..not like Vious 2k diff.
my 1 year 2 months old persona h-line still got break problem..send to proton,they change master pump.. Now still problem,even worse..have to stab the break extra on to the floor. …other than that..the car is no problems.
nasib proton buat side mirror lawa sikit…nak tgk kedai abang atau ah beng ada jual tk…mcm la diorg boleh buat….
i really impress with side mirror with signal
Paul,
Did Dato’ MD mentioned about Persona Replacment?
Is this the last persona from gen2-mahaleel platform?
not so surprise.. still similar thing.. now waitin for new Waja replacement these coming october.
Expensive, overpriced for this piece of junk crap!!!
dzqwr said,
March 18, 2010 @ 2:36 pm
berapa byk facelift da…
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hahahhaha!!!! don’t make a stupid joke lah….u should say that to myvi.
edge said,
March 18, 2010 @ 2:45 pm
masih rupa lama…tidak banyak perubahan..cuba lihat Honda City totally ubah segalanya..alalala…..!
apahal la bodoh sgt…. honda city tu new model la…. yg nie new facelift…. mna sama… x skool ker?
sr20det said,
March 18, 2010 @ 2:41 pm
boleh tahan la rupa dia..
tapi gps jenis lekat kat cermin… to bad….
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U want something that is easy to get off? good, let me steal ur GPS then !
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Campro : dashbord dah siap la bos.
S.Roma : ok, bagus.
Campro : tapi,,, tempat gps tak der la bos.
S.Roma : tak per, boleh letak kat cermin depan.
Campro :cerdik buah ***** punye S. Roma. Keta lain kat DB, kete nie kat cermin. buleh lingkup company kalu macan nie selalu..(dalam hati)
Dear sr20det,
What are u saying la… i cant understan ma…
previous one…not nice at all…this one…same….nothing surprise, sorry…won’t buy!!!
Lousy brand came out with Lousy Car
more expensive than previous model. 32bit ecu is for future bolt on turbo addons. Sound insulation still the same and no major improvement.
The same old bashers with their same old comment
if you really don’t wanna buy a Proton,just shut up and go sleep with your lovely Japanese car.
Go design your own car then,then you will know how hard to design a car
I’m not a hardcore proton’s fan,but I just wanna say something to all those stupid bashers
ussually,there is about 200 hundreds of comments for article related to proton
and most of the comments are from this small amount of bashers
note that there is about 3000 of persona sold per month,this small group of basher can’t really compete with this huge amount of buyers who really own a proton
mmg tak mampu pun deran tu bro, tular bising2 mcm cengkerik!!! ahaa… buat deposit pun tak reti, cek2 3 bulan dah kena tari oleh bank hahaahaaa….
the dvd player look fugly. Why don’t they provide 2din player c/w GPS.
Nothing much changes to the car, plus more expensive, Btw should have use campro CPS instead of IAFM.
sirimusa said,
March 18, 2010 @ 4:38 pm
KZM,
You just made one of the most foolish and irresponsible comments ever.
Do you know why people are asking for Airbags? Because Malaysia so happens to have one of the highest road-toll deaths per capita in the world. This is why people want airbags. It’s definitely more important to have the whole security arsenal, both passive and active, instead of having a screaming 300hp engine, isn’t it now?
And your second comment about buying H-Line to get airbags is just as foolish if not more; not all Malaysians can afford to fork out an extra 10k-15k just for a couple airbags and ABS/EBD. Malaysians, generally speaking, are already handicapped enough with ENORMOUS car loans extending up to 10 years (unheard of in most countries). The last thing you’d want is having to spend an extra 20% for airbags. Having a safe and secure car is a RIGHT, not an OPTION. And Proton is still tremendously lacking and I feel, is swiping disrespect to poorer Malaysians who simply cannot afford an H-Line. Why do you think there are so many Kancils out there? Because people like them?!
So yes, 4G63tDSM is right: Malaysians must ask for better protection in their cars and it shouldn’t be an option. PERIOD.
KZM, just think next time before pouncing on anyone.
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Malaysians must ask for better protection in their cars? Tell me, why don’t you people slag the Vios J, they don’t have airbags. Think ABS enough? Yes safety equipments are important, but I can’t stand the double standard of slagging Proton but not Toyota. Care to explain?
And the most important thing we should do is a revamp of our driving curricular. It’s severely lacking. Teach new driver defensive driving so that the road doesn’t surprise them if anything untoward happen. That way, Malaysians can be assured of their safety no matter what car they drive!
if cannot afford persona go for saga la..saga se full spec bout the same price with persona baseline wat..sumore body like latio/vios..haha..
I find it ironic that we always ask about airbags in a Proton, safety features, bla bla bla… Yet I hardly see anyone driving with their sealtbelt on. Be it the driver, front passenger, or rear passengers. The only time I see anyone wears the seatbelt is when JPJ or police were making roadblocks.
We wears seatbelt for the sake of avoiding getting summoned or for safety purposes?
dats why la sirimusa need airbags. i watched discovery channel about car safety & the BEST protection u can have when driving is SEATS BELT. if we dont wear seatbelts we can still die due to the air bags
they should atleast have an airbag in car if not two. i certainly don’t mind paying extra for a life saver
what’s with the spots on the seat design? so ‘cool’ one?
btw,
where is our hero, peyno? it’s time for him to comment..
WTF, who was the event organiser? So uncoordinated, DSZ looked blur blur, open then close door, then open again, pose for camera, it all looked very poorly planned. Oh well, whatever.
Zzz… how ignorant can some ppl be to have asked such obvious question… why no CPS? DUH!!! U want CPS so much, go get Gen2 or Waja la.
Too little change? Tak reti maksud FACELIFT kah? Even so, there’s quite some equipment upgrade like the 32 bit ECU, LED for rear lights n side indicator, which makes the price increase justified.
Safety? Again, even if Malaysian are given the UNCRUSHABLE Merc S-class and still die of accident in it, it just shows which is the cause right?
Improve driving first before even talk about safety features. Just few days ago got news about now women are becoming more aggressive driver. So, if u got into an accident, it’s your fault. Too bad if the car’s not safe enough to keep you alive. That’s one less bad driver on the road.
if persona il older.then waja..ahhhhhh need to change ..
kecoh ar p2 salesman semua ni…no sale ka?hahahahaha
Went to showroom, mm its good value for money. Like what it says in the commercial.. its about life.
Nothing to say.. i’m driving VTEC B16A Second Generation before i let it go and buy Persona SE..
Honestly to say, Persona better to drive for long journey, less maintenance, and can feel the superb handling, surely by Lotus..
For those who decide to buy a car, never trust any comments here including me until u test drive the car.. but make sure u take a sharp corner at 100km/h and u will know what is Handling By Lotus..
p/s: Cucukman telah berkata demikian, ANDA BAGAIMANA?
agreeeedd……! i’m also letting go my ‘macho’ 4g92 mivec to get on my persona dat easily slithering smooth to da corner,side-by-side,just like a snake!…..hi-5 to proton!!i’m really crazy wit my 4g’s,but when thinkin about my 3 lovely kids…persona is better for young daddy-of-mid-family likes me…..and for all….not only for kampong kah,bandar kah…..i don’t care man!!…we’re one….
Shame they didnt use the 32 bit ECU to upgrade safety features, like giving ABS to all variants or upgrade the highline ABS+EBD to include Stability Control.
Its also time for Proton to consider ISOfix child seat mounts.
Underutilising the 32 bit ECU is like bragging about your latest Core Duo chip but still utilising Windows2000 OS.
Eagarly awaiting the rebadge Mitsu Lancers (Waja replacement)
aku dah booking dah tadi….
sporty habis…
looks nice! price is also ok!
but y interest rate of national car is higher? honda city can get 2.38%..
sebab honda kete dah mahal, kite kiter murah,kan jadi balance tuuu.
it will sell well still…. until the next lancerwaja
if they drop another rm5K… then can direct compete with MYVi..
then diff story
A very nice car indeed…
Portable GPS – dangerous and not practical !
Proton needs a 2-Din player with integrated GPS and Reverse Camera
That will kick ass !
Portable GPS can take out and keep while you leave you car, Intergrated GPS lagi dangerous by the time you lost the whole car not only GPS,
persona ni ada gak nampak cantik tu..tang lampu tu ok…juga signal lamp…grill depan ?…hmmmm…ok la..memang nak tunggu rupa bentuk penuh persona ni…nak beli cadangnya…pada masa yang sama dah tempah exora basic 58k….rasanya tak pe la…ingatkan kalau berkenan persona ni nak cancel exora but still choose exora. anyway…persona ni ada perubahan positif cume proton ni bab harga je yang mahal la kot.
brake la not break
mmg standard persona
This is what we called Persona Elegance. and suddenly i realized Perodua has Viva Elite. Viva Elite also available in United States,
http://www.vivaelite.com/default.aspx
hahaha,so lame…
This is a facelift, not a totally new car.
Some think that changing a design is a straight forward 1 step process i.e draw new design, fabricate and assemble… Sadly it doesnt happen that way. An all new car requires a total change in every department from vehicle design to that of the production jigs and machines. This takes time. Its not like your local fiberglass bodikit shop where they take a week to do ONE front bumper makeover. You cant afford that kind of time in mass production.
Alakadar jerk! Global semua kereta engine VVT, DVVT, Kereta Korea pon dah beralih ke technology ni…Ngape Persona still IAFM, tak letak CPS? Elegance apenya tu?
wat pe global ….
kalu bleh buat sendiri ckup la
honda city tu “replacement”,bkn “facelift”…tu pn xtau beza ka?? pesona facelift lbh byk diffrent drpd old pesona bbanding drpd honda civic kluarkan honda civic facelift..
Project Phoenix tu ape?
Hi,
I honestly hate the new radio unit. I prefer the integrated one. I know this one comes with USB hub but uuurggh, it’s just too ugly. Can I get Proton to change to the old, integrated one for me? I’ll trade in the new one.
Anyone knows?
some of comment very good.. some of it basher jerk hahaha air bag lah pretensioner lah.. abs,edb, apelagi tech campur lah u spesis rubbish nyer comment sakit hati tgk proton move foward.. bagi yangsuke kete jepun tu beli jerk lah… spec j vios pun mcm dugong.. haih.. actually persona is not performance car it’s more to family n save budget car.. so kalau nak sport n power g to gen2. ader opsyen cukup lah power yang ader tuh… naklaju ke mana. jugak. kan.. to other competitor.. ermm dengki kot.. komen pelik tuh cube ko bagi spec ko nak.. tulis tgk mcm mane kos die lol… toyota pun indon yg pasang .. nak tune ecu aku rasa ader kedai kat shah alam yang dah leh maksimakan ecu tuh g jerk lah situ… tu tok busines jugak.. ekonomi kite…
Talking about elegance, at least 4 airbags is a must included item.
Tiadaid said,
March 18, 2010 @ 4:11 pm
4G63tDSM said,
March 18, 2010 @ 3:35 pm
So you need to pay 60K to get 2 airbags?
Even for the patriotic, thats a steep price to pay…..
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My friend, Vios J spec no airbags 69K care to explain?
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tiadad my fren, vios j s[ec 69k is with the tax? without tax it only 30k ok…
lads. what’s with the blatant and premature blaming each other? to imagine a company 20+ years old to produce a result as good as long-established german manufacturers might be asking too much. there has to be some economies of scale which can only be achieved by time and good expertise.
if a 20+ years old company could make a car as good as other established brands, they would have long acquired proton. assembly of a passenger car is nowhere near snapping parts of a tamiya car.
nonetheless, rome wasn’t built in a day, ain’t it?
please wear your seat belt during driving. if you dont wear your seatbelt even 10 airbag will not save you during accident…
but i also agree airbag should be compulsory…
The stupids keep fighting to give the stupidest comments… That is the malaysian way…
And to individual keep nagging about power window issue… (there is very less to happened i supposed)…
Write a book with the “POWER WINDOW FAILURE: TRUE STORY”.. will ya… LOSER… keep bringing the same old story…
U jadi operator toll both la… u see how many p1 car have to open their window coz power window failure… Then give us the statistic!!
stupid staff…proton supporter couldn’t received any comment at all…
hodoh…no improvement…and overpriced…
That 2 person so proud of….
still running on timing belt?????
looks like persona elagance in a very formal suit. instead of sharing snickers from sporty gen2, now its i would say a down-tone from gen2. normally,,,some unique feature of gen 2 like round cluster rear light, radio techno inspire, to a round shape of the inside door release. (last). which i would say gen2 embraces design in a proper theme, the minimalist of a sporty lotus gene. is a success.
this is simply regularly proper. a right to be down-toned from gen2 sporty image has its own justification, for it to be a SEDAN. to be able to differencite between formality and sporty.
i have to agree, because this is the way it has to be.
korang yg kutuk2 proton ni, ada ke pakai keta proton? banyak soalan yg korang tanya menampakkan kebodohan sendiri. aku dah pakai persona h-line hampir 2 tahun. ni hasil pemerhatian aku :
1. gps – didatangkan dengan standee dia. yg dilekatkan dekat cermin tu, cuma standee (pun boleh dicabut dengan senang). gps tu, kau boleh pasang dan cabut dari casing pada standee tu… masuk dlm kocek kau pun boleh… takde timbul isu keta kena pecah pasal gps pun!!!
2. airbag/pre-tensioner belt… h-line aku memang ada benda tu… korang boleh beli myvi ke, vios ke, city ke yg langsung takde airbag, korang tak belasah pulak manufacturer keta2 tu!!! kalau bagi pun benda2 tu, bawak keta cam setan pelesit, kau ingat kau boleh selamat dari malaikat maut ke????
3. fc : enjin campro iafm persona aku boleh bagi fc 6.9l/100 km… nak jimat camna lagi ngan enjin 1.6 cc? hari2 keta aku tawaf kat jb & area sekitarnya dan sesekali outstation ke pahang/kl/melaka… nak jimat camna lagi???? enjin nak power tapi minyak nak sikit…. pasang ngv la!!!!
4. power window : takde masalah pun dah hampir 2 tahun aku pakai keta ni… kalau kong pun, aku ada extended warranty sampai 5 tahun…. apa masalahnya???
5. handling : kalau dah pakai lotus punya barang, takde masalah nak amik sharp corner dsbnya…. apa barang nak compare ngan toyota/honda????
6. spare-part payah nak dapat? kau hantar keta kat sc mana??? aku tak pernah pun encounter masalah cam tu… dan keta kau byk sangat masalah nampaknya… atau kau sendiri yg bermasalah???? lanyak keta cam org tak ingat dunia???
7. harga 60k mahal? kau cuba beli myvi/viva/alza full-spec dan bandingkan ngan apa yg proton offer…. aku lebih puashati ngan proton….
korang yg mengutuk ni, tak bawak keta proton tapi belasah proton cam nak runtuh langit… ni la rakyat malaysia yg hipokrit dan tak sedar diri….
Aku setuju..dia orang budak bawah umur…tah2 keta pun takde..cakap pandai la..
aku pun setuju dgn kau ni..
cume tang persona elegance ni aku x suke bodykitnye aje.
yg lain ok..
uiihhhh… marahnye… baru pakai 2 tahun bang… kete ni kite hutang 7@9tahun… tunggu la dulu… sat lagi abang tau knape la org tak suke sangat kat p1 ni… hahahha… masalah p1 ni bukan overnight bang.. drp zaman Tengku Mahalel lagi dah mula dah… mcm cancer la… beli2, then manyak problem dtg… dtg bukan sikit2… banyak.. klu betul mcm abang cakap, kiter tgk 10 tahun lagi, klu p1 punyer produk bagus n takde masalah, Orang pasti akan suke P1 balik.. kiter tgk replacement model yang akan datang nih… ader ke tak problem… jgn marah sangat bang……
protonexcel..
aku stuju ngan ko….patutnyer kita berbangga dgn proton bkn kutuk.penah korang bace kt maner2 rakyat china kutuk Chery walaupon kualiti plastik parts lagi cam hampeh???. proton is better than chery dari segi kualiti dan plastic parts. ntah2 diorang yg mengutuk ni kete pon xder…jgn2 gi keje pakai ex5 cabuk….
those yg pakai vios toksah nk bangga sgt ngan dugong tu la…kat jakarta diorang wat teksi jer bro…ape nak bangga sgt…x sedih ke keta ko jadi keta sapu…kuikuikui…
caya la proton_excel
xXx_ said,
March 18, 2010 @ 7:09 pm
still running on timing belt?????
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Yes, still the same old technologi
hahaha…so how about honda?is it go by timing chain?civic,dc5…..lol!
nice new grill…final facelift i guess…all the best proton
I hate to read stupid comments such as ‘another facelift’, ‘too many facelift’, and ‘not much changed’.. So what??!! Even Toyota had done dozens of facelift to their cars!! And minor one too!!
design = Lotus
engine = Lotus
handling = Lotus
GPS = China OEM
bodykit = Proton
saw this today infront of my office. very2 nice car. interior no longer look cheap. side mirror is eye catching but not sure about quality
model kali ini lebih cantik dari yang lama.tahniah!!!!!
Proton standard la, 10 facelifts baru tukar model. biasanye 2 generations tertinggal dari company yang lain.
For those who said the G cares of creating market for the people in automotive industry? read this.
http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/article_2403/page_m.asp
This shows the G is only wants the cronies to success. You got work to do or not is not their concern. Period.
They only wants to monopolized the market for the cronies.
_xXx_ said,
March 18, 2010 @ 7:09 pm
still running on timing belt?????
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what is the problem with timing belt?
ntah, tau sebut je kot..
Dear Staff,
He dono why la… let him be la…
He dono that most designers prefer to use timing belt becoz its less noise then chain belting… some designers use chain belt becoz its more durable, but comes with more pay…
Nice and smart looking.
this is actually nice. Could be my second Proton!
http://paultan.org/photo/proton-persona-elegance/dsc_0564.jpg.php
This pic kinda weird.. look at the door…
anyway.. nice upgrade.. err.. this Persona oso have ‘BCM’ right?
Oi oldman,
you also haven’t improve yet,and hodoh lagi.haha
jangan marah nanti cepat tua,oops…lupa
you’re an oldman.haha
this model look greats,upgrade 16 bit ecu to 32 bit ecu is the main point of this time new persona launch…i love it muchhh
i want to change my radio to this once.. can still use the control on the stereng…..
I love its side mirror LED.
ok what??? x puas hati just design ur own car la.. x susah pon..
try to appreciate it la, not as ugly as made in china car
Looks plain and boring~~~boring, and still boring~~~
Hello… Toyota J spec got ABS,EBD & BA + Driver’s Air Bag!
They are even better compare to our base line~!
Check the link here, u (some) morons Proton die-hard supporter…
http://www.toyota.com.my/index.aspx?cat=models§=vios&subsect=main
Last time RM55k can buy H-line with 2 airbags + ABS + EBD. This time RM56k can only buy M-line with degraded safety features (1 airbag only). Sweat (=.=”)
Anybody know where to buy old model H-line?
I would definitely buy the old model for better safety features rather than these useless cosmetic changes!
Proton! Bring back your old model H-line, I don’t want this facelift!
Am i the only one who thinks that this facelift actually RUINED the persona? I have a persona right now and i absolutely love it, its simplistic design really complements what this car is all about, family transport. Now they murdered it with the awful interpretation of the old persona grille, and disgusting bodykit. I guess i am one of the few who doesnt like bodykits that screams, well, bodykit. And dont get me started with the name……… or the radio….
dari sini kita dapat tau..masing2 ada pendapat masing2…stiap dari kita memberi pandangan dari aspek masing2..ada y betul dan ada y salah…dan ada antara kita y memberi komen berdasarkan status kewangan kita..y kurang berkemampuan..mmg la diorg akan bli kreta keluaran negara..krn dari segi kemudahan dan kemodenan seperti usb, cruise, gps, skirting, dan lain2 berbaloi utk dibeli berdasarkan bajet diorg. kpd y berkemampuan mmg la boleh bli kreta luar negara..jd jgn dikutuk org y dah bli kreta nasional…
sama seperti saya..keinginan utk bli kereta luar negara mmg sentiaswa dihati..tp kalau saya nk beli..anda nk bagi duit ke?dah tentu tidak kan?
jika dilihat dari aspek lain..ada x kereta seperti vios menyediakan autocruise dan usb for mp3?so..ini juga antara faktor org mcm saya nk beli kereta nasional….tp kalau saya nk beli kereta luar negara..kereta luar negara berharga rm120k kbwh bukan pilihan saya kerana faktor kemudahannya tidak seperti proton hi-line…kerana spek2 y ada seperti proton hi-line hanya ada pada kereta luar negara y berharga 120k ke atas sahaja…
beli nanti, kasi itam die punye grill sepenuhnye, tinted lampu depan n belakang. Bg nampak mcm test model.. Lg sporty maa…
yup.still timing belt., hopefully waja replacement replace belt with chain.. anyway design suit with theme..,
door visor should need some touch to suit overall stylish
I swear to god that i saw a brand new saga WTP**** broke down near The Courts Jalan Pahang… I pretty sure its broke down due to proton problem (engine etc) because the driver opened the front hood and checking somting… (Not coz takde petrol)… P1 fans kutuk other car maker.. I saw with my own eyes that P1 will always be P1…
hahahaha….stupid comment by stupid basher…..before u comment please do research la…i dun want to compare with toyota or honda because later someone will defend they beloved ” auto cruise mode all the time” car and ” easily can caught in fire” car are expensive because of the tax….i want to compare it wif p2…is the lame overprice myvi base line get 2 airbag abs,ebd,?….is the lame overpriced alza get 10 airbag?….how much p2 increased their price every time they do minor cosmetic change to the myvi..does p2 dare to show their crash test result…..they dont even have capability to improve the engine…. this persona offer you not even cosmetic change but also upgrade to the engine….and for your information proton invest million to improve NVH, agronomic, aircond to give you the best…its value for money…a handsome car suitable for family and also young people….the best in its class ride and handling….and more….i like the side mirror lamp….i like the color and i already booked one and waiting to receive my car next week…
Congratulations proton persona elegance,your front windscreen will be ‘on the wanted’ list of smash thief for the GPS navigation set.Hopefully our Mata(polis mehsia) can cope with the increase cases of smash thief.
Boleh dikira ok lah..dan bahagian belakang tu ada perubahan kah? sebab bahagian belakang tu yang buat spoil sebab macam itik…hahahahahha.
How to retake first position in car sales, proton-edar website not even updated after launching of PERSONA facelift. Facelift without CPS, facelift ape benda ni.
Quote from Tiadaid:
“Malaysians must ask for better protection in their cars? Tell me, why don’t you people slag the Vios J, they don’t have airbags. Think ABS enough? Yes safety equipments are important, but I can’t stand the double standard of slagging Proton but not Toyota. Care to explain?
And the most important thing we should do is a revamp of our driving curricular. It’s severely lacking. Teach new driver defensive driving so that the road doesn’t surprise them if anything untoward happen. That way, Malaysians can be assured of their safety no matter what car they drive!”
Unquote.
Why do people keep on bringing Toyota in the picture?
Frankly speaking, I do not care about Toyota as were are talking Proton here. I do not care if Toyota fails or becomes the world’s biggest auto manufacturer. Why? Because Toyota does not have any direct impact on the Malaysian economy and my life.
Why shouldn’t Proton be ahead of Toyota? So if Toyota sells cars with no airbags it’s ok for Proton to do the same?
Proton claims to be a family oriented company with the ‘rakyat’ in mind, especially their Persona. I think it is only fair to have better passive and active security. PLEASE, PLEASE keep Toyota out of this and don’t divert the debate.
I expect good quality products from Proton: if they want to survive and improve, they have to do BETTER than the competition. And I expect no least from Proton and I truly hope and wish they will get their act together.
However, you are also right that it is imperative Malaysians get better driving curricula. People drive like drunkards out here…
as a fresh grad, i got my first car 5 yrs ago, i didn’t hv many choices, thks to the crappy gov taxes.
as a typical malaysian, with only Rm6000 in pocket, i put it all in, and get the max 90% loan. i hv to pay RM633/month for 9yrs!!!
back then my monthly income was RM2800/month.
my friends grad from same uni, with gov scholarship chose NOT to come back to serve the bolehland.
he was pay $3000/month.
i (monthly income RM2800) bought proton gen2 @ RM 60k (manual high spec–cos i wan airbags).
he (monthly income $ 3000) bought a BMW 3 series @ $ 45k.
guys, i’m not complaining but do you sence something is not right here?
back there, a fresh computer programmer owns a BMW is nothing.
here, the same damn computer programmer owns gen2 is big deal.
i sincerely hope that gov can do something about it.
if you to compare our economy to advanced european country.. good luck to you really.. do you know there are difference between advanced nations, developing nations, third world country, poor nations and stuff?.. and they are not been categorized just like that. how long have we been merdeka? how long have they been super power? ..
simple thinking… compare your economic to your friend who have a better well off father… he would have no problem buying a BMW here, because his father have bought him house, he dont need to give his parent money, and oh his father can be a good guarantor for him if he needs loan. you? you will have to save some money for your future, take care of your parent, and the bank will scrutinize your bank account if you are planning to make big loans….
be thankful that we are complaining about the kind of car we drive, in some other country their graduate also earn around 3000 of their money but they can only complain about the basic necessity of life.. food , shelter, medicine and stuff like that. Our goverment have indeed do their job, they cant be rated A+ for sure..but they sure have created rakyat that have the mentality of wanting their life to be A+, and for me that a step forwards. lets hope who ever lead the gov now and the next time continue to bring us forward. in the mean time we as the rakyat.. if cant or dont want to contribute much to the country, just be proud to be Malaysian, can we?
Aku dah pegi tengok kat showroom di Glenmarie..ada B-line & M-line..test drive unit akan ada hari Sabtu ni..aku teliti belek kereta ni (M-line)..isu kualiti masih ada pada proton walaupun display unit. kedudukan emblem tak centre dengan hood. getah tepi tingkap (sebelah luar pintu belakang) jenis yang disambung2..kena hujan 3-4 kali memang tertanggal..getah bahagian dalam dekat tingkap jelas gam-gam dorang letak getah tu..adusss….geramnye aku tengok…dorang ni xde QA ke sebelum kuarkan kereta ni..yang paling best!!!! handle tempat buka pintu driver, bergoyang2…macam longgar..Sales person kat situ gelak je bile aku tegur, “eh apa ni kak, macam nak tercabut je ni”..
pandangan aku: proton patut standardizekan ciri-ciri keselamatan (ABS,EBD, pre-tensioner seatbelt) untuk semua varian. put sports rim, bodykit, fog lamp and apa2 jadah unnecessary accessories tu as an option..kalau macam ni, memang proton akan kena cukup2 la….
Crap ECU. Crap cronies. Crap car. Period!!!!
dah nama facelift, facelift lar…. replacement tu lain, sengal~
kalo persona letak cps, waja xlaku.. business is business~
still..why do high line does not offer manual???
looks very good..love the tailight and side mirror..
some how the brochure failed to mentioned the new 32bit ECU.
err.. i saw somebody say vios without tax is RM30k? seriously? or u just divide by half to assume the tax is 100%? . hehe.
btw, airbag for Malaysian? ABS? EBD? Traction control? Malaysian need to learn how to drive and respect others on the road rather than those safety features. more importantly to learn that those white color line on the road does mean something and the light on the back of the car do means something like signal lamp flashing with orange/yellow color means ready to stop, this car merging into your lane and not speed up, this car means to be at your back.
ABS wont help you to brake, I still see car with ABS skid on the road.
Airbag won’t be helping much if you don’t put ur seatbelt on, much rather dangerous when you put ur baby to sit in the front passanger seat face exactly on the dashboard waiting for the bag to pop open?
what the use of ISOFIX when most malaysia still hold their baby with them while driving, and sometimes put the child in command of the steering in traffic jam.
I believe most of the advance features are much expensive to be integrated into the current platform and model(which target mostly Malaysia market), maybe in the future those feature would be cater with lower cost since the car would be exported more than selling to arrogant Malaysia.
My hope, do not bring down the tax. We had enough car on the road already.
slight improvement noted but disapointed on the overall safely feature…
aiyak..headache lah when i read all those comments. very destructing and some are baseless one..make me embarrassed to be malaysian..
gimme a break, for 60k or even 70k i would rather buy this than myvi or vios..better chassis, superb ride n handling, looks nice n no problem cruising high speed at highways.
plus..
the medium line according to brochure get 1 airbag for driver..
the high line gets 2 airbags
Tahniah P1. Ada kemajuan…
org melayu n malysia mudh lupa. lupa asal usul. buat2 lupa dr mn kita brmula. dh senang n mewah, jd sombng plak. jgn jd si tanggang kwn2 skalian. Nasib proton mungkin sama dgn Tun Mahathir. Dunia dh ikhtiraf beliau genius br org2 kt mlysia ykin yg beliau mmng bagus. korang x tau mcm ner semangat korea n china support brg buatan mereka walau ketika tu kualtnyer rendh dan boikot brg2 luar. mmbc la lg, jgn asyik pkai imaginasi buta.
I wonder why this Persona Elegance still dont have manual tranmission for their H-line like GEN2 CPS of which they produced manual tranmisssion for their H-Line. This is by virtue of i am not the ‘auto’ type of driver. I hope that Proton would rethink of this idea and hope that it might be come true one day….who knows. Anyway congrats to Proton for the facelift…..well done guys!.
To 1st car gen2
did your friend bought second hand BMW?
Haha
To loco:
kau dah check otak kat kepala kau,
mana tau ade goyang-goyang,longgar ke,bocor ke
haha.joking
anyway,seriously kau inspect satu persatu persona ni
semangat betul brader nie
Malaysia mmg boleh ko tu yang patut cek kepala otak ko… dah loco tu nak survey kete mesti la cek satu2… nak bli kete ni ko ingat murah ker?? bulan2 RM600 9 tahun la broo… klu gaji ko rm3000 pon kne cek betul2… dasar fans p1 yang membuta tuli pantang tulis negatif sikit psl proton nak melenting… apa daaaa…….
Proton Pesona Elegance, sounds more like calling out a persons name rather than a car’s name.
Anyway in most real world country we should be getting a Camry, Accord, Sonata, Kia or Skoda for the asking price of H-line, but than again in a countryl ike boleh land this is considered extremly cheap isn’t it. Just hope the Waja replacement model will be priced better.
the bashers inside this comments obviously never drove the car at high speed corners…I can say 80% of malaysian drivers only brag they are fast on straight….corner???….kecut telor!
i own a saga BLM manual…i can keep up with any cars on the road at straight but 1:30 of them slows down at corners…kept braking..asshole!! please evaluate your driving skills before giving your ridiculous 1 point view comments.
I do agree proton has so much to do on the interior part but what makes me starting to love proton is the fun of driving it. It is easy to take corners like at karak at 140kmh, responsiveness & manuevuere crazily in jams..that is the pure fun of driving. Just that please trash those OEM goodyear tires u put them to saga BLM…piece of crap…use either continental or falken..thats it bro!!
The car just follow what you wnt them to do.Unlike those complex cars like honda, volvo, myvi…no rush, no fun…too smooth that lack the spirit of driving that makes us drivers-by-response dont seem to get any good feedbacks from the car..
just look at the new honda city…nothing muscular / race image it potrays…just plain ugly to me…proton at least have the “grrr” image they are trying to show.
To proton: keep the positive side of you. improve more on styles & engine.
I recommend those no-brainer-bashers to take either persona / neo cps and drive them at Kuala Kelawang-Jelebu hill road of 60km long…Try that and you know what i mean. Just be careful as the road is like in Initial -D..lots of hairpins.
i agree with u on the blm handling,but i disagree when u said honda no fun to drive..
i hve driven acccord and although it far bigger than blm..it far more fun to drive,not to mention its heavier too..i own blm too,but i disagree with your ststement that said u can keep with any car on straight..try myvi can la,how about prdana v6??..eat their dust only
..saga blm? erm….u want to campare with honda? from the name itself…saga pun tolak tepi….fyi aku bukan peminat honda or proton…ye aku ade gen2…dah tolak ganti dgn latio…lagi superb…tak byak pblm…riding smooth….senag cakap je..ade RM byk…angkatlah yg maner2 berbaloi dgn kocek anda…takde RM takyah nak ckp lebih paki je ape ade….takyah nak compare brg bawah 100k dgn accord yg lebih 100k tu buat malu je….bawak 140 syereng dah gegar proton…accord? tak gegar lansung..naper? body dier besar dan berat….ddan pasti RM dier mahal…saga blm? erm…malas nak ckap harge dier brape tapi pasal pulak riak nak banding dgn keta yg besar2..ngaper tak cakap saga BLM ko bleh kalahkan lamborghini ke ferrari ke..same gak tu kan? cakap paki logik dan akal la bro…dah keta kecik dah murah buat la stail keta kecik…nak banding dngan ktegori mewah siap ckap boleh lumbe ngan org lain pulak..hebat sgt ke saga blm lu bro? tak nampak pun lu wakil malaysia masuk F1 guner saga BLM tu……cakap biar bepadan……kesian…bru pakai saga BLM dah riak……
orang melayu & malysia mudah lupa. Lupa asal usul. Buat2 lupa dimana kita bermula. Orang kita kata Tun Mahathir tak bagus & penting diri sendiri dan bla bla bla. Bila dunia dah iktiraf beliau genius, barulah org kira percaya yg kita ada pemimpin terbaik dunia. Bacalah sikit sejarah korea n china tentang semangat kebangsaan dia orang dan bla bla bla… jgn jadi Si Tanggang de.. Bercakaplah dgn fakta bukan imaginasi buta.. bacalah lagi. Kamu akan bangga dgn negara kamua
creative said,
March 18, 2010 @ 4:14 pm
Bro you thought the Toyota and Honda really 100% made in Japan?you wish!since Toyota Vios and City made in Thailand!Vios interior is cheap as shit!and 70k+++ without airbags =.=’ btw i hate Proton!if we don’t have money so pls don’t expect too much!better buy Audi or Benz if you want the quality o0o
agree.. spec suma nak high end.. 60K for H line pun da bising.. better buy ferrari la kalu nk suma cukup..
Again!!Sacrified safety feature to bring down pricing, malaysia boleh!!Sell expensive here to subsidise cheap oversea market!
Rainforest, we checked with Proton and yes, the rear seat angle has been changed for improved comfort
can someone here please tell me how much is a unit of seat-belt pre-tensioner and 1 unit of airbag?
I’m not sure but I don’t think they sell it separately from the car. I maybe wrong but I have never heard that there is a shop/company selling them.
sirimusa said,
March 18, 2010 @ 4:38 pm
KZM,
You just made one of the most foolish and irresponsible comments ever.
Do you know why people are asking for Airbags? Because Malaysia so happens to have one of the highest road-toll deaths per capita in the world. This is why people want airbags. It’s definitely more important to have the whole security arsenal, both passive and active, instead of having a screaming 300hp engine, isn’t it now?
And your second comment about buying H-Line to get airbags is just as foolish if not more; not all Malaysians can afford to fork out an extra 10k-15k just for a couple airbags and ABS/EBD. Malaysians, generally speaking, are already handicapped enough with ENORMOUS car loans extending up to 10 years (unheard of in most countries). The last thing you’d want is having to spend an extra 20% for airbags. Having a safe and secure car is a RIGHT, not an OPTION. And Proton is still tremendously lacking and I feel, is swiping disrespect to poorer Malaysians who simply cannot afford an H-Line. Why do you think there are so many Kancils out there? Because people like them?!
So yes, 4G63tDSM is right: Malaysians must ask for better protection in their cars and it shouldn’t be an option. PERIOD.
KZM, just think next time before pouncing on anyone.
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but..
most of malaysian doesnt care to ware seatbelt..and u know what..even if u hv 10 airbags in that car but u dont buckleup..those airbags is nothing n useless!
so, for me u dont need those thing if u drive in good manner. i think u are one of the crazy n foolish people who drive like crazy.
RRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUBBBBBBBBBIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
why high line model (with leather seats & safety bits) comes only with 4-speed slushbox that consumes fuel!?
High line also shud come with manual gearbox… even Beemers offers stick shift…
proton …please…stop embarrassing malaysians by putting extra2 namencloture… ‘ elegance la’ neo la ‘gen 2′ la….just put persona enuff la..
So…if the salesman tells you this car comes with this 32 bit thinkgy, just remember ….it doesnt make any difference!
i dont see what is so special with this car…. sorry.
Cucukman said,
March 18, 2010 @ 6:04 pm
Nothing to say.. i’m driving VTEC B16A Second Generation before i let it go and buy Persona SE..
Honestly to say, Persona better to drive for long journey, less maintenance, and can feel the superb handling, surely by Lotus..
For those who decide to buy a car, never trust any comments here including me until u test drive the car.. but make sure u take a sharp corner at 100km/h and u will know what is Handling By Lotus..
p/s: Cucukman telah berkata demikian, ANDA BAGAIMANA?
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agree with u man…try take sharp corner at minimum 90~100km/h..
pls do try several car including new city n malaysian beloved myvi…both are suck at that speed! but in gen-2 its really impress!
I myself drive a Persona each n everyday…always keep up with my Proton SC service schedule, and for me personally, it is a great sedan car..space n comfort riding for me is the best part of the Persona, till now…my Persona gave me no problem that couldn’t be solved by Proton SC.
the problem some of suggested above such as a P1 will always be P1, always break down, engine prob etc..etc…most of it are caused by the driver themselves..how often do u take care of ur car..or u just “lenjan” and if it broke down then it proton’s fault eh?? if u drive thru speed bump at 100km/h and u car starts to make “squek” here n there..also proton’s fault??
the point is, it won’t matter which car u buy, if u never care for ur car, never thought of driving safely n smart…it won’t matter how high quality or how many safety features are in ur car
too many ah bengs on Msian roads, what do you expect?? give airbag also useless..
but i will put the blame on govt road quality… damn terrible, low quality.. world class?? yeahhh right!!!
1st car gen2
as a fresh grad, i got my first car 5 yrs ago, i didn’t hv many choices, thks to the crappy gov taxes.
as a typical malaysian, with only Rm6000 in pocket, i put it all in, and get the max 90% loan. i hv to pay RM633/month for 9yrs!!!
back then my monthly income was RM2800/month.
my friends grad from same uni, with gov scholarship chose NOT to come back to serve the bolehland.
he was pay $3000/month.
i (monthly income RM2800) bought proton gen2 @ RM 60k (manual high spec–cos i wan airbags).
he (monthly income $ 3000) bought a BMW 3 series @ $ 45k.
guys, i’m not complaining but do you sence something is not right here?
back there, a fresh computer programmer owns a BMW is nothing.
here, the same damn computer programmer owns gen2 is big deal.
i sincerely hope that gov can do something about it.
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bro,happiness is just a state of mind,now plz call ur $3000 wage,driving bmw friend and ask whether hes happy or not,be thankful bro that u can afford to own a car
bro, i suggest you pack your stuff and migrate. everybody thought it is always greener on the other side of the fence. but if it really was, then go ahead make a move instead of grumbling about it. or maybe you can buy bmw 6003. still bmw maa..
sirimusa said;
“….Proton claims to be a family oriented company with the ‘rakyat’ in mind, especially their Persona………”
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Potong never put people in mind…they only answerable to their cronies… so go figure why no airbags for base line model….
Oh my god, Proton crap. The front is ugly. Follows toyota altis. Come on, be original a bit laaa. Must be those corporate decision making guys telling the design team :
‘I’ve bought the new altis, I like the front. Make the Persona like that’
The same conversation when they designed the new Saga.
err.. the front look is nice what. I like it.
dog said;
“i dont see what is so special with this car…. sorry….”
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Its higher price is the MOST special thing in this faceshitte….oopppss facelift.
potong proton…beli ford fiesta
seven said,
March 18, 2010 @ 10:25 pm
I myself drive a Persona each n everyday…always keep up with my Proton SC service schedule, and for me personally, it is a great sedan car..space n comfort riding for me is the best part of the Persona, till now…my Persona gave me no problem that couldn’t be solved by Proton SC.
the problem some of suggested above such as a P1 will always be P1, always break down, engine prob etc..etc…most of it are caused by the driver themselves..how often do u take care of ur car..or u just “lenjan” and if it broke down then it proton’s fault eh?? if u drive thru speed bump at 100km/h and u car starts to make “squek” here n there..also proton’s fault??
the point is, it won’t matter which car u buy, if u never care for ur car, never thought of driving safely n smart…it won’t matter how high quality or how many safety features are in ur car
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True enough. I never have any problem with my Saga/Iswara 2007 though, other than power windows (which surprisingly fixed for free by Proton SC recently).
bro,happiness is just a state of mind,now plz call ur $3000 wage,driving bmw friend and ask whether hes happy or not,be thankful bro that u can afford to own a car
Agreed,
Not everyone of us can afford to own a car. We should be thankful, work hard and strive for the better. Please stop complaining that you don’t earn enough for a living here.
THIS CAR IS A JOKE.
why the dashboard looks like Honda City 2009 ?
this http://paultan.org/photo/proton-persona-elegance/dsc_0587.jpg.php
and this
http://images.paultan.org/2009/honda-city-review-interior.jpg
haih
ATTENTION
be careful when driving…avoid pothole otherwise d cabin will end up very excessive noise…
wakaka said,
March 18, 2010 @ 10:01 pm
but..
most of malaysian doesnt care to ware seatbelt..and u know what..even if u hv 10 airbags in that car but u dont buckleup..those airbags is nothing n useless!
so, for me u dont need those thing if u drive in good manner. i think u are one of the crazy n foolish people who drive like crazy.
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tokmoh said,
March 18, 2010 @ 5:53 pm
Safety? Again, even if Malaysian are given the UNCRUSHABLE Merc S-class and still die of accident in it, it just shows which is the cause right?
Improve driving first before even talk about safety features. Just few days ago got news about now women are becoming more aggressive driver. So, if u got into an accident, it’s your fault. Too bad if the car’s not safe enough to keep you alive. That’s one less bad driver on the road.
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most malaysians don’t care to wear seatbelt? pls check this out…
psasir.upm.edu.my/846/1/PFK9.PDF
according to this study, it says over 76% drivers use seatbelts.
accidents don’t always happen because of one’s poor driving. it could be because of the other driver’s fault. so if one day it happens that one lorry crushes yr car and you die (touchwood!), is that your fault too?
letak je la cps…kedekut betul!!!
This facelift persona is actually cheaper than previous version. If u compare the facelift H-line with previous SE version in terms of features, they’re almost the same, except that the facelift H-line is given a new aggresive and sporty look plus LED taillight, elegant side mirror, new ECU ++. So given more features with same price, it is a good buy and value for money. According to my fren in showroom, bookings are countless.
this is facelift la, not all new model, that’s why just a bit change here and there
the gps can be move anywhere you want la, you put in other cars also can
please note that there will be the same proton’s basher when there is an article related to proton
you can find them usually with this two ugly name:
1) mazda 3 mps(or you can call this person as mazda 3 PMS)
2)oldman(tua nak mampus)
if you found them,please send them to the nearest dustbin as fast as you can
emen said,
Oh my god, Proton crap. The front is ugly. Follows toyota altis. Come on, be original a bit laaa. Must be those corporate decision making guys telling the design team :
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Oh yeah? but i found new T altis is the ugliest car amonst C-segment cars in the market.
Oldman said,
Potong never put people in mind…they only answerable to their cronies… so go figure why no airbags for base line model….
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Oh craps…. look at P2, toyota’s base line models, got airbags? even much more expensive. Moron japs wanabe..
1Malaysian said,
March 18, 2010 @ 9:59 pm
Again!!Sacrified safety feature to bring down pricing, malaysia boleh!!Sell expensive here to subsidise cheap oversea market!
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say that to toyolta!
also perotdua!
Cucukman said,
For those who decide to buy a car, never trust any comments here including me until u test drive the car.. but make sure u take a sharp corner at 100km/h and u will know what is Handling By Lotus..
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That is why this car was designed for life coz life is never compromised, unlike the other P, car is a movin coffin…
a great car..for 46k is considered cheap for a big sedan car..without airbags,abs,ebd its still good for those who wants to upgrade their old wira,iswara,kancil..
some say that gov tax is very high..if u cannot afford why u want to buy importedcar..i’ve seen alot of extremely rich people are just using wira/waja even myvi..y??because for me,vios or city or forte is not worth buying..just buy an old waja or this new persona is much better..quality is ok..u cannot compare it to bmw or merc..campro 1.6 is more powerful den city or vios..if wan faster just get urself perfomance car..not all people can afford it..
Shame … M-line increase 3K still with out include at lease passenger airbag, look like other way proton try to cover up on increase the price. and where is Manual for H-line ?
edge said,
March 18, 2010 @ 2:45 pm
masih rupa lama…tidak banyak perubahan..cuba lihat Honda City totally ubah segalanya..alalala…..!
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Mana blh banding bai?!
Org mkn sushi,kiter mkn nasi lemak jer…
Standard lain…
Toyota said:Why you follow me bad?Never follow me to U.S?
Toyota said:did ya knew that Perodua my bro ?
edge said,
March 18, 2010 @ 2:45 pm
masih rupa lama…tidak banyak perubahan..cuba lihat Honda City totally ubah segalanya..alalala…..!
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G ckp dia nk protek proton….Tp die xdpt nk melabur dlm rnd utk proton sbb die nk beli keter luar negara utk kaki tangan die guna…What a shame…
i don like this car.. the design all same since proton saga.. 1985. same component also…
Did you knew also your Proton boss once from your little brother->Perodua long time ago – Proton? Did you knew that once Perodua your little bro now-> Perodua have overtaken you in M’sia even with smallest car made?Where is your smallest car now?? Proton??Able to sell 300-800 units for 3 yrs in a row,Proton?
P-moving coffins – move faster than this Proton lo…even the savvy also no where to be seen.P-movin coffins sell more than PRoton lo, suddenly Proton just realise it..lo..Even Proton cant resist to hire ex-P-movin coffin’s ex – staff .dont know which P is movin coffin now..
5cens said,
March 18, 2010 @ 11:50 pm
Toyota said:Why you follow me bad?Never follow me to U.S?
Toyota said:did ya knew that Perodua my bro ?
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perodua said:yo bro,did you solve your accelerator pedal problem
toyota said:don’t embarrass me here or less i will not lend you the new passo!
jabbatheheart said,
March 18, 2010 @ 11:09 pm
most malaysians don’t care to wear seatbelt? pls check this out…
psasir.upm.edu.my/846/1/PFK9.PDF
according to this study, it says over 76% drivers use seatbelts.
accidents don’t always happen because of one’s poor driving. it could be because of the other driver’s fault. so if one day it happens that one lorry crushes yr car and you die (touchwood!), is that your fault too?
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Yeah, like what happened to a whole family on their BMW 7-series on Plus highway near seremban recently. Misery and so sad….
true.. that is what i try to tell u guys above.. dont blame.. i for once have that bad attitude some time.. all of us do.. raise ur hand for those who give way to people to overtake u,especially on jalan lama.. i seldomly do,until that incident i told ya above.. dont be like me, i was lucky, and panjang umur.. what if i wasnt?? what if i just honk the coming car and hit the brake, never to get my car to the side road???? would i be alive now??? so,we should be positive, and take whats happening around us as an example.. blaming something/some people will never get anything solved..
and for the BMW case,condolences.. 
if it bound to happen, it would.. so,we should take it as “iktibar” and try to avoid it if possible.. 
This is a good job by Proton but like all of their cars, the Lotus Campro crap will spoil all of their hard work. I fear for proton that this engine will be here for a long time.it is one of the worst engines i have experienced.
hebat proton..!!! nice car..teman tak sabor nak tengok depan2 ni…esok nak test drive…teman nak cancel vios tu…biorle rugi rm500 asalkan teman puas hati…
nice improvement on persona. move foward.
should b better than old one. nice move and beat others.hehee..have a luck p1. go go go proton.moving w/out turning back..
The decision is economic……
Who can afford to buy, go right ahead and test it out
Who can afford bit better, enjoy your Vios and Cities and Latios
Who can afford much better, read through the comments here and laugh
Who cannot afford, dont hide it with bitching. Stick to your capcai and wiras
people who can afford much better dosnt have time to read through all this..
tsk tsk! i still not sure why proton come out with another face-lift. can’t you set a standard policy where you have several car segment and have a set life span to replace with a new model? e.g. B-class segment new improvement model after 5 yrs?
Waja is going to be 10yrs
Perdana about 15 yrs
from old saga to new saga ..how many yrs then new model?
satria > neo ?
suddenly you popped this emas concept car…come on set a plan and tell everyone that what are the replacement models for exora, neo, new saga, new waja you have in plan for the coming 5-8yrs..
chris said,
March 18, 2010 @ 8:29 pm
Congratulations proton persona elegance,your front windscreen will be ‘on the wanted’ list of smash thief for the GPS navigation set.Hopefully our Mata(polis mehsia) can cope with the increase cases of smash thief.
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would you be angry if I say you’re stupid Chris? yes, definitely you will get angry because I suddenly said you’re stupid, right?
but, unlike you and other blind bashers here, I have proof that you’re definitely stupid for commenting without thinking and bash blindly.
need further explanation? this is quote from proton_excel:
“gps – didatangkan dengan standee dia. yg dilekatkan dekat cermin tu, cuma standee (pun boleh dicabut dengan senang). gps tu, kau boleh pasang dan cabut dari casing pada standee tu… masuk dlm kocek kau pun boleh… takde timbul isu keta kena pecah pasal gps pun!!!”
that’s before you commenting here.
kot2 dia memang stupid.. erm..
setuju sangat..klu gps tok dok permenet kat keta lg bhya..pas2 slhkan proton wat bende x gune akal…gps men cabut ni idea berakal..nice facelift from proton..stkt ni pakai persona,tak de mslh pon…its depen on how u take care and drive your car..klu bawak keta tu mcm bawak keta limbo memang xlepas persona ni…last2 enjen pun kene kanser sbb asyik kene push je…kesian kut..beli bkn murah…loan lg 2
aiyaaa..how come???shame..it’s look ugly..juz improve the quality…
Minority typical m’sians, wanna all safety features but reluctant to pay more. These safety features in a car are like having a medical and life insurance, meaning you have to pay in order to get the benefits of it. Nothing is free today. Even to use a wash room in plaza alam central cost u 50 cent now. If no tax, where on earth our kids may get free school and education, hospitals, research grant, security etc. Proton are doing business, they pay tax to the G. They applied research grant from G like what IPTAs do. The use the research money to develop new technology. As a result malaysians saw proton concept EMAS hybrid launched in geneva autoshow. They’re doing great and active this year around. That’s not over, waja replacement is next and hopefully some spyshots on exora hybrid before this year ends. Rakyat do see these and give to them (proton) their supports. See, proton is movin’ forward leaving a group of people who move round in circles, who? you bashers….
LG said,
March 18, 2010 @ 11:03 pm
why the dashboard looks like Honda City 2009 ?
this http://paultan.org/photo/proton-persona-elegance/dsc_0587.jpg.php
and this
http://images.paultan.org/2009/honda-city-review-interior.jpg
haih
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persona dilancarkan pada 2007, FACELIFT pada 2010.
honda city REPLACEMENT dilancarkan pd 2009.
so, dashboard persona telah di design pada 2007.
dashboard honda city pada 2009. 2 tahun gap.
so, siapa copy siapa skarang??
Hehehe…..kut iyer nak condem pn tgk2 la…..sapa copy sapa nie?…:D
oldwira said,
March 19, 2010 @ 12:05 am
Yeah, like what happened to a whole family on their BMW 7-series on Plus highway near seremban recently. Misery and so sad….
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yr sarcasm is totally uncalled for.
the point that i was trying to make is that cars with more safety features would definitely help when the needs arise. who would disagree with this?
LG said,
March 18, 2010 @ 11:03 pm
why the dashboard looks like Honda City 2009 ?
this http://paultan.org/photo/proton-persona-elegance/dsc_0587.jpg.php
and this
http://images.paultan.org/2009/honda-city-review-interior.jpg
haih
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LG, i think the Gen 2 (in case u dunno, persona has the same dashboard design of gen2, and this Persona Elegance has only a new head unit, while the rest remains the same) was launched way before the 2009 honda city..if both the dashboards look alike, then it is Honda who copied Proton’s design for its City, not the other way round.
Please comment wisely. Thank you.
stupid local make car
facelift act like new model…………. damn more expensive……..
buy japan car …. before proton , foreign make is so cheap .
jz to protect proton goverment taxed us 200% on foreign car …
unfair ………
where is AFTA ????????????
What kinda car manufacturer with no engine to show for.
This engine is crappy because of its high revving high consumption.
It can hit 180km/h easily but after that the tappets will make
funny noise and the P1 technician will have to tighten it.
STD answer – biasa-lah.
Wow really good car,
Specs r better then forte and vios & city.
Price 20k more cheaper then T & H .
People say VVT save petrol but NGV 100x more save then vvt,
Handling superb…
Vios only suitable for low class citizen and good for taxi usage only.
Honda vtec not so great even older version campro can tapau this civic I.8.
Forte lack of pickup shame lah…….
campro no match for civic 1.8 vtec..although campro is not bad,but certainly not as good as vtec..
Proton vs other car:
Other car (Harrier’s – 2 point tail light): Luxury
Proton (Gen 2 – 2 point tail light): Fucking Ugly
Other car (Mercedes C class – meter panel) : Elegance and Luxury
Proton (Gen 2 – meter panel): Fucking Ugly
Other car ( Myvi/Passo replacement model – open dashboard) : practical
Proton (previous gen 2- open dashboard): engineer proton design tak gune akal
Other car (any Toyota – quality wise) : Its ok… Semua kete rosak sikit2 maaa….
Proton (any proton – quality wise): Proton maaa…..
Other car (any car except proton – price wise): mahal takpa, kualiti bagus, value for money laaa..
Proton (any proton’s car – price wise): Murah kalu takder kualiti buat apaa!!!!!
Kesimpulan: I pity on Proton, no matter Proton do, people sure bash kawkaw… hahahha
Proton vs other car:
Other car (Harrier’s – 2 point tail light): Luxury
Proton (Gen 2 – 2 point tail light): Fucking Ugly
Other car (Mercedes C class – meter panel) : Elegance and Luxury
Proton (Gen 2 – meter panel): Fucking Ugly
Other car ( Myvi/Passo replacement model – open dashboard) : practical
Proton (previous gen 2- open dashboard): engineer proton design tak gune akal
Other car (any Toyota – quality wise) : Its ok… Semua kete rosak sikit2 maaa….
Proton (any proton – quality wise): Proton maaa…..
Other car (any car except proton – price wise): mahal takpa, kualiti bagus, value for money laaa..
Proton (any proton’s car – price wise): Murah kalu takder kualiti buat apaa!!!!!
Kesimpulan: I pity on Proton.. No matter what they do, people sure bash kawkaw….
like same with gen-2 cps.
Good job proton…nice car…who said the proton car expensive compared to myvi & viva…
myvi 1.3 SE auto =53K
viva 1.0 auto highline =40k
u all see the price of persona compared to viva & myvi…myvi just changed cosmetic & badge..when daihatsu passo changed how they looked then myvi will change…see the shareholder in perodua…how much foreign hold?
good quality eeh myvi? see how much of their car masuk air front lamp?
so, malaysian? you judge yourself…..did u all that left negative comments already test drive persona/gen2 cps?to be fair, tomorrow, u just test drive myvi and then later go for new persona..
Protoneverwakeup said,
March 18, 2010 @ 10:01 pm
can someone here please tell me how much is a unit of seat-belt pre-tensioner and 1 unit of airbag?
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to anyone here, airbag 1 unit will cost you 10k, that’s because you buy it 1 unit not in bundle, if 2 unit you count yourself, I dare to say this because my friends Toyota Land Cruiser involved in crash last year and guess what he got injured not by the impact but his injury were caused by the AIRBAG due to the mechanism to deploy the airbag. He send his car for repair and yeah his dual airbag cost him 20k alone to replace it…so count yourself why cars with airbag damn expensive compared to cars without it, so if you really want an airbag so suit yourself to pay more.
There are so many things… much, much, much more important than a car. Yes, you can buy Honda Civic Type R or BMW3 Series and continue on bragging about your ‘achievement’. But deep inside your heart, you’re suffering to pay various loans (car, mortgage, etc.), insurances, road tax, etc…. for what? To get stress and die from heart attack…? If you can’t afford it, don’t blame others. Have you push yourself hard enough to earn it?
Car is just a tool for you to go from point A to point B. It should be long lasting, reliable and most importantly within your budget. If you think a car is your investment, then you’re thinking wrongly. Car is never an investment, it’s liability. If I have RM200K, it’s better for me to buy a house or put it in ASB. After 10 years it would be doubled. But BMW after 10 years will be…..20%?
Yes, you may become frustrated if you didn’t get what you want. But what’s more important is what you NEED. Keep praying and thank to god every morning that you’re still alive, you have enough money for shelter (home), food and clothing for you and family. You’ll be stress free for the whole life!
Keep on comparing yourself with more fortunate ones will make you think life is unjust.
Keep on comparing yourself with less fortunate ones will make you thankful.
But, of course if you have money more than enough to feed 3 generations of your family, you may enjoy life to the fullest. Go and buy whatever car you want.
Nice one Proton! Keep it up!
I just wish that…
1) The ugly bodykits remain as optional, since not many of us would want to have it.
2) The base line could have been less than RM40,000
Everybody complains about all re-badged proton – Saga, Iswara, gen 2, Persona…
but nobody complains about Satria GTi (Lotus) or Proton Perdana (re-badge)
Conclusion – quality matters, give the people a good car and nobody will complain.
I doubt using ‘quality plastic’ for the dashboard or better ‘rim’ or add in a few air bags are rocket science. CPS, Campro… and all those jargon, nobody knows what it is… it is the ‘feeling’ when we are inside a car that matter the most, the impression.
To creative:
of your mind is creative enough
with rm1,can you give me a car with the best design,best quality,best engine,10 airbags?
Can you?
well,we are lucky to have quite cheap Toyota car like dugong vios
and it’s cheap because it’s made in thailand
if it’s made in japan,sure the price will be high.
Please to bashers out there who really hate proton and can’t really afford a better expensive
If tax down,sure Toyota sell like hot cakes
but remember can you afford higher fuel price
you wanna a cheap car,but at the end you will regret it
if fuel price increase,you should know what else increase
Proton has certainly done a good face lift here, but the undeniable fact is that Campro’s technology is aging and fast becoming obsolete. More effort should be put into the R & D of a new engine. If Proton were to resort to rebadging Mitsubishi’s Lancer as the new Waja, then it’s back to square one. One more thing Proton, please have a heart. Basic safety equipments must be made standard no matter what.
another facelift for 10yrs domestic market..should learn from kia how to be a strong competitor.
You dont like about it? Keep your mouth shut. We dont need to hear ur comments to live. This is not the place for you to complain. Do you think proton will bother to read your comments? No! Do you think Proton made this car for you?! NO! Its for us who still apreciates the value of being called Malaysian. Not a Malaysian trying to wear Kimono (P2).
You have problems with the price of vehicles in Malaysia? Move to other country. We’ll be glad. Proton is a young company. You cant deny it. Look at toyota, they have been there for decades, but still they do mistakes. There is no such thing as good manufacturer. Because good manufacturer is so subjective. Each manufacturers target for a specific types of customers. And these types of customers ceratinly not you. Just shush. This launching is for us. The one that apreciates. The one that need it and want it. Not you bashers. Go away.
And another one, it is what they called facelift, what do you expect from a facelift? new engine? new design? Then, that will be called a new car!
Dear Tommy,
Politely, i just don like the car is so expensive. Because of the stupid tax. Where the tax money go? Goes to corrupted people, for this and that project. In the end, we all suffer.
yaa..i 200% agreed wth u…those malaysian ppl don like proton car especially PERSONA…thre all very2 stupidos…I’M PROUD TO BE MALAYSIAN CITIZEN..
from 1999..i use ISWARA..
year 2004..WIRA S.E
year 2009..PERSONA..
I’M VERY2 PROUD HV THIS 3 PROTON CARS…
Waaa…..actually people like Proton very much wooo…..not even 1 day already reached nearly 300 comments. Good sign for automotive industry….
G63tDSM said,
March 18, 2010 @ 3:45 pm
Even more funny.
The 46K baseline has NO airbags and NO pretensioning seatbelts ….WOW…what is this? 1970?
That pretensioning seatbelt part must be a typo…..
What is this?! Life is sure cheap for the lower income group…
Sucks to be poor eh? Proton doesn’t even think you deserve pretensioning seatbelts.
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more funny.. perodua ALZA at 55k…NO airbags and NO pretensioning seatbelts ….WOW…what is this? 1970?
you know whut….. i think its not DAT rubbish….
altho an engine tweak/boost would be nice, my fren owns a black gen2 h-line (non-cps) automatic….it can barely go uphill….very sluggish, i feel, a car dat cheap and was built to serve as an only car in the household shud do with a better engine OR a better gearbox…where got ppl still use 4-speed auto box..? plz laa proton… get a cvt or a twin clutch now….
proton somehow always manage to sell cars in abundance (we all know very much why ), but im sure they have ppl in marketing who knows what will sell, almost every household in malaysia has had, having, or will have a proton in the garage, this is just another example (4-speed autobox? H-LINE ALSO SHUD COME WITH MANUAL!!! this part d marketing people got it wrong), but an all new model is due next year (waja) so… we’ll see how far proton has progress….,
This is a better persona, nice touches…i prefer this radio than the ‘integrated one’ , in case it ‘kongs’ (but its blaupunkt’s so i doubt it) you can easily change to a new one (though dats not the main idea) , the side mirror’s repeaters are nice…its not a BAD looking car overall…, except from the back, those skirting really2 dont look elegant.
Im excited about project pheonix tho… next proton car shubbe a persona/waja replacement with a new engine and a twin clutch gearbox developed by lotus
banyaknya fanboy perodua sini… kesian. Tiap kali Paultan nak announce a new Proton model, mesti banyak budak-budak perodua datang bash. Tak henti-henti. Kerja korang ni bash aje.
Komen la dengan bijak sikit. Pegi showroom pun tidak, lepas tu nak compare itu ini. Model ini MINOR FACELIFT lah. Kalau nak full model change, Tunggu 2012. Korang semua akan terkejut dengan kereta tu. Jangan nanti ada yang nak kata power window apa la semua.
Lahabau punya fanboys.
Prismo said,
March 18, 2010 @ 7:56 pm
http://paultan.org/photo/proton-persona-elegance/dsc_0564.jpg.php
This pic kinda weird.. look at the door…
anyway.. nice upgrade.. err.. this Persona oso have ‘BCM’ right?
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i think they design it like that to minimize the vibration of dashboard. so the vibration can be transferred..
ok,lampu belakang cun,side mirror woww giler lg cun..lain2 nice,kalau nak komen lebih2 pun..asal la xletak tyre 195/50 hahah itu je
price ok lah,new ecu 32 bits?wow.. mmg blum fully utilize tp just for features punya model like they said “currently siemen discontinued the 16 bits ecu”,bagusnya ttg ecu ni 32bits ni..sape yg btul2 hebat je berani customize benda,rsnya workshop kat glenmarie bleh buat
kenapa iafm bukan cps.. sbb gen2 dgn waja pkai cps,mudah je.. nanti xpsl bersaing sesama sendiri,rsnya kalau proton ade 1.5cc mmg patut masuk kat persona 1.5 cps ..so gen2 dgn waja akan pkai 1.6 cps..tp nak utk penjimatan iafm better choice.. xbest sgt pun persona byk laju2,lg best gen2 dgn neo beb melekat abis corner.. so kena la dgn engine iafm
power windows..hahah optima aku pecah dia punya hub kat motor dia beb,keter rege 100k,proton zaman skrg nak2 terutama lepas savvy masalah power windows dah xde dgr sgt pun..entah lah
kat malaysia jgn demand lebih.. kita hidup bukan mcm kat oversea,demand tinggi itu ini tp nak murah.. nak engin power laju gempak tp jimat minyak,kalau teliti btul2 kiranya dgn features yg ditawarkan oleh keter ni blum tentu ada kat keter yg luar yg pricenya 70k above,sbb aku pkai keter malaysia dan keter korea.. hahaha
To those who said that.. “aiya.. same je..” this is facelift dude… even vios facelift mcm taik.. wait la an all new Proton persona 2012….
country boy said,
March 19, 2010 @ 12:41 am
aiyaaa..how come???shame..it’s look ugly..juz improve the quality…
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By picture, how do you know the quality? Fool.
I bet you dont even know what is quality definition.
S.Roma said,
March 18, 2010 @ 4:18 pm
thunderbird said,
March 18, 2010 @ 3:13 pm
everything is nice, but need a better fuel consumption engine.
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U expect what? 1 litre can go for 100 km? insane la, the FC already nice la… 1 litre can go for 15 KM. Asian auto car award already 2nd, 1st is Vios (with VVTi Engine) while we only use Campro IAFM already can go for no 2. That is nice already la…
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Actually Proton Persona Campro IAFM got first place in 1600cc category.
My daddy Persona got same FC with my wife 850EZ Kancil…
How about that?? Maybe some people doesnt believe it. Perodua Cars except Kelisa, Kenari and Viva 1.0 are petrol guzzler..
Thats the FACT..
It’s Auto Window also elegance?
creative said,
March 18, 2010 @ 4:22 pm
SO ULGY ………… LOUSY TECHNOLOGY
SO EXPENSIVE EVEN LOCAL MAKE …
BETTER ADD RM 20K TO BUY CITY OR VIOUS MORE RELIABLE …
STILL HONDA AND TOYATO THE BEST IN ASIA AUTO MANUFACTURING
DAMN ………………………… LOCAL MAKE
??????????????????
Honda n Toyota now going to “plastic” …. so bad
Toyota “Moving Forward……Die” (where there have been over 30 deaths linked to Toyota cars)
KZM said,
March 18, 2010 @ 4:13 pm
4G63tDSM said,
March 18, 2010 @ 3:35 pm
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at least hav 2 better than non……u use ur seatbelt?? or give signal when change lane?? or stop when re light…do u queuing when road jammed..patriotic no patriotic
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In fact yes. I think your question is shallow and irrelevent.
Do I use my Seatbelt : YES…even if I’m in the back seat.
Do I give signal : YES
Stop at red light : YES
Use a proper child seat for my daughter : YES
Do I wait up properly at lights : YES
I could go on.
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And to the other comment somewhere up there about the Latio, well, I don’t think the Latio is very appealing at all for the same reason. We can all blame the national car maker (and the Government) of NOT making certain safety equipment mandatory.
Malaysians deserve better cars with better safety. Proton or not.
Like I said, and I continue to maintain, life is cheap in malaysia. Both to normal road users, the government AND the car manufacturers.
how many more “kereta kebal” do u need, proton in the next 20-30 years??
nadzri m yusof said,
Vios only suitable for low class citizen and good for taxi usage only.
Honda vtec not so great even older version campro can tapau this civic I.8.
Forte lack of pickup shame lah…….
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Its true nadzri, i drive my self with my waja cps a/t .. and really can tapau civic 1.8 @ 195km/h at usj highway. and yet very stable at that high speed. I not compare about proton with other car, but it prove proton really make it the best among other competition. So don’t just blame..u test it first then u know.
thunderbird said,
March 18, 2010 @ 3:13 pm
everything is nice, but need a better fuel consumption engine.
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For PROTON basher, please read the statement several time & make some study before sending your message..
“Asal nama proton je korang nak bash”
Nak jimat kau belila VIVA 660..
Statement from WIKIPEDIA!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_Persona
Awards
During the 2008 Asian Auto – Bosch Fuel Efficiency Awards, the Proton Persona won the first place of the Family Car category, with the reported average fuel consumption of 6.6 L/100 km (43 mpg-imp; 36 mpg-US).[7] It also won the 2008 Best Model of the Year by Frost & Sullivan.
myvi can go eat sh1t, but, myvi top seller, so a lot of malaysian can go eat sh1t.
just like politic.
proton car so good, why nobody wans them except pathetic malaysian?? becos malaysia boleh!!!!!!!
proton salesman, pls stop your cheap tactic of attacking myvi and hope ppl will buy from you.
they wan satria neo CPS, but you make them wait for a few months? are you guys stupid? you keep customer waiting, and try to offer them other stupid car.
P1 & P2 never owned one before.
However, sat in my frens P1 & P2 many times.
NVH , i do see improvements over the years..quality of inetrior materials…really need more effort.
Engine…dun see much here.
My old company cars: driven iswara, wira, waja & perdana. Local made what can i say…ok la if just to drive from A to B.
Cannot compare to other makes. Way behind IMHO.
We really need an open market. else, we will forever suffer this over priced problem. Those with frens overseas will know that they do not need to earn tonnes of money to drive good cars.
It looks nice with the LED brake lights.
Too bad it is still using CAMPRO, If using CPS, then syok already.
And to all those bashers, test it b4 u bash it.
After test it, comment it fairly, dun just say other ppl’s thing is good while u no yet tested both yet.
By the way, If you like Toyota so much, buy a Prius and press the accelerator pedal as hard as u can on the highway, it is very safe. Safe until it can move without you even press the accelerator pedal. Really super! Can auto cruise without need to set anything. U press brake also it still move.
Other car (any Toyota – quality wise) : Its ok… Semua kete rosak sikit2 maaa….
Proton (any proton – quality wise): Proton maaa…..
This proton maaa…. statement is from proton mechanics, what are u talkiing about?#
dont you all proton supporter try to brainwash us, i believe unfortunately each and everyone of us here has at least 1 proton car before, so we know what we are bashing about. You supporter are good at brainwash yourself, we dont, we demand for better things. You guys make do.Support blindly.
Without perodua beat them at top seller place, do you think proton will improve? See how hyundai and kia improve. And later compare with China company, and then later you can say, you are better than myanmar, myanmar make bicycle only, loser’s mentality.
hmmm.. ya ka? i am driving 1998′s proton saga iswara a/back.. and guess what my lecturer said? “senyap kereta kamu ni ya? lagi senyap dari kereta saya”.. wallahualam,saya tak tau… tapi saya hanya menyatakan fakta.. kami bukan brainwash la makcik.. i,for one, am a bit disheartened that u guys bash like proton is so useless… i love cars, i have driven other cars then proton, and yes they are better, but at higher prices.. of course.. right? u got me? but i never hear any complaint from my family members and friends about proton cars(new models like persona, saga blm, etc).. this is the fact:
1. old proton cars are good..
2. then it goes down during a certain period, the quality goes down due to some problems in management..
3. now, it start to stand up again..
so u see? give building critics, not bashing.. and for those having problems with cars, i think u can go to proton and tell them.. dont bash or say bad things here.. proton will never improve then.. and other thing, bila nak servis, go for original parts.. part local mmg murah, tp tak tahan.. saya tahu… pakai bush axle murah, tak sampai 5 bulan hancus.. so take good care of ur car, and drive safe always.. we can make a change together.. k? salam to all.. no negative feelings here.. go to proton and complaint all u want.. they want to imrpove..
nass said,
March 19, 2010 @ 1:15 am
Good job proton…nice car…who said the proton car expensive compared to myvi & viva…
myvi 1.3 SE auto =53K
viva 1.0 auto highline =40k
u all see the price of persona compared to viva & myvi…myvi just changed cosmetic & badge..when daihatsu passo changed how they looked then myvi will change…see the shareholder in perodua…how much foreign hold?
good quality eeh myvi? see how much of their car masuk air front lamp?
so, malaysian? you judge yourself…..did u all that left negative comments already test drive persona/gen2 cps?to be fair, tomorrow, u just test drive myvi and then later go for new persona..
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You are right nass..
Nowadays PROTON has improve a lot..
They thought that PROTON still the same but they are wrong!!!!!!!!!
Just read the statement below from Mr. Wkipedia..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_Persona
Awards
During the 2008 Asian Auto – Bosch Fuel Efficiency Awards, the Proton Persona won the first place of the Family Car category, with the reported average fuel consumption of 6.6 L/100 km (43 mpg-imp; 36 mpg-US).[7] It also won the 2008 Best Model of the Year by Frost & Sullivan.
PityOnP1 said,
March 19, 2010 @ 1:06 am
Proton vs other car:
Other car (Harrier’s – 2 point tail light): Luxury
Proton (Gen 2 – 2 point tail light): Fucking Ugly
(why u compare with Harrier’s only, there have many “other car” stupid car design la-u tak guna akal)
Other car (Mercedes C class – meter panel) : Elegance and Luxury
Proton (Gen 2 – meter panel): Fucking Ugly
(why u compare with Mercedes C only,there have many “other car” stupid car design la- u tak guna akal)
Other car ( Myvi/Passo replacement model – open dashboard) : practical
Proton (previous gen 2- open dashboard): engineer proton design tak gune akal
(why u compare with Myvi only,there have many “other car” stupid car design la- u tak guna akal)
Other car (any Toyota – quality wise) : Its ok… Semua kete rosak sikit2 maaa….
(ala malu nak bagitau member2 kereta dia rosak…kereta mahal, proton rosak sikit heboh satu kampung)
Proton (any proton – quality wise): Proton maaa…..
Other car (any car except proton – price wise): mahal takpa, kualiti bagus, value for money laaa..
Proton (any proton’s car – price wise): Murah kalu takder kualiti buat apaa!!!!!
(how about car made in India, china, korea?- u said “other car”- u tak guna akal,TIPU ma)
Kesimpulan: I pity on Proton.. No matter what they do, people sure bash kawkaw….
Kesimpulan: I like proton… No mater what they said,
taillight with nine led? why nine? it seems can’t fit in more than nine…^^
kind of look dim the led
Just heard on the news, Proton’s still talking with VW on a technical partnership…that’s unexpected.
power window problem, lousy engine, broken stuff here and there
another shitty proton car as always
50-60K car affordable???
Being by default due to lack of competition makes it even worst.
Man, these freshies must have never known a time when cars in malaysia were RESONABLE. I’m not even comparing car prices overseas, I’m refering to local prices before Proton was in existance.
Given the normal low to middle income household earns about 3-4K ish, dumping 1K a month for 1 car plus fuel/maintenence/insurance (for 9 years somemore) is absolutely rediculous…especially considering our purchasing parity. I can still afford to buy a Persona and Gen2 for cash even without the silly loans? Yes, will I? No.
Why can’t I have a normal Persona/Gen2 (I actually do like how the car looks) with a manual gearbox, sans leather (don’t like leather), GPS (my phone already has one)…with the full complement of safety gear?
If Proton builds a good car, everyone else will give you better cars for the same money, be it Toyota, Perodua, Nissan, Honda….etc. The question is When?
Oh yeah, I did test drive both the original Persona and the Gen2 CPS. Wasn’t convincing me of parting with 50k. I will give it to them, it is better than the Wira but you could expect a little more 10 years on….
While I agree that Malaysians ought to learn how to drive better, but even as I have advanced driving training, involved in countless amature/club event races, and hundreds of hours of track time driving (and off and on crashing ;p) high performace cars, I still appreciate proper safety equipment in an everyday car. In fact, I appreciate it EVEN MORE, as I know just how bad a crash can be and just how sharp the knife edge is.
It is utterly irresponsible for Proton cypertroopers to instead of dealing with the facts, but to deflect it and spin it another way saying consumers don’t want safefy gear lah, they don’t know how to drive lah, don’t use safety gear lah, do buy a 100k+ import if want safety, Vios J also no dual airbags…..etc.
While there is no denying that are some elements of truth there, it is still a very irreponsible comment. I dare Proton say this in official channels. You could imagine the backlash.
So much for the kereta rakyat……new motto perhaps, “Life is cheap…the car isn’t”.
PS. Come to think off this, the Gen2/Persona isn’t even properly crash tested??
Persona’s fuel consumption is very efficient. 11 cents per KM on average. or 6.2l per 100km. even VIos cant really beat that…
Based from experience
4G63tDSM said,
March 19, 2010 @ 8:35 am
Like I said, and I continue to maintain, life is cheap in malaysia. Both to normal road users, the government AND the car manufacturers.
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Do you know why Malaysian life is cheap? Because Malaysians themselves treat their life like that. You know that your car doesn’t have all the safety systems, but do you drive carefully? No, still drive like a mad man. But if your car have all the safety system do you really think it allows you to drive like a mad man? No! If EVERYONE in Malaysia, from truckers and bus drivers to the person driving a car, drives carefully, then accident rates would plummet.
But instead we point our fingers at the cars, point our fingers at the government. Why point to something that’s hard to change, when it’s easier to change yourself? If everyone thinks the same, change is much easier to achieve. But instead all we do is to blame someone else, buck it up to others, point fingers. Remember, when you point one finger at someone, the other fingers point right back at you.
is that the 2 high pay persons so proud of…
qwerty123456 said,
March 18, 2010 @ 4:21 pm
pumpkin76 said,
March 18, 2010 @ 3:53 pm
2 things:
1. Why no CPS engine???
2. Why only 9 nos. of LEDs for the rear lamp? too few IMHO for the light cluster…
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1. To avoid competition between their own models
2. How many you want? Give you 12 later you ask why only 12. Give you 20 later you ask why only 20. Give you 50 later you ask why 50 so many.
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qwerty123456,
Dude, let’s talk sensible here will ya…. of course i will not ask why only xxx LEDs or why so few / many LEDs IF the number of LEDs are suitable for the size of the rear light cluster.
How many I want? Enough to fit the light cluster and look good, eg. the nos. of LEDs (12 if i remember correctly) in Exora are arranged in such a good and neat manner. 9 LEDs IMHO makes the light cluster looks BLANK/KOSONG…. especially the section below the 9 LEDs. the lowest section of the cluster as usual are for the rear fog lamp but that’s for oversea market… even if you retro fit it with a 5W running light the centre section of the rear light cluster still looks BLANK at night…..
chill….
the grill look weird..
qwerty123456,
Dude, let’s talk sensible here will ya…. of course i will not ask why only xxx LEDs or why so few / many LEDs IF the number of LEDs are suitable for the size of the rear light cluster.
How many I want? Enough to fit the light cluster and look good, eg. the nos. of LEDs (12 if i remember correctly) in Exora are arranged in such a good and neat manner. 9 LEDs IMHO makes the light cluster looks BLANK/KOSONG…. especially the section below the 9 LEDs. the lowest section of the cluster as usual are for the rear fog lamp but that’s for oversea market… even if you retro fit it with a 5W running light the centre section of the rear light cluster still looks BLANK at night…..
chill….
Author: oldwira
Comment:
emen said,
Oh my god, Proton crap. The front is ugly. Follows toyota altis. Come on, be original a bit laaa. Must be those corporate decision making guys telling the design team :
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Oh yeah? but i found new T altis is the ugliest car amonst C-segment cars in the market.
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Altis is the most beautiful C-Segment car I ever met, but because of the wooden interior makes it ugly… Altis grill not suitable for Persona, coz it makes the car looks weird…
Do as you like, Proton is at the bottom of wishlist. Though I drove a proton before and it served me very well. Thing is… when you can afford, you would go for something else. When your wallet is tight, proton is a good choice.
Life is cheap. Live and let die.
Wah, so many P2 salesman and owners in this blog? They must be worried, if not they would not bother to give silly comments!
Author: mr. proton
Comment:
To those who said that.. “aiya.. same je..” this is facelift dude… even vios facelift mcm taik.. wait la an all new Proton persona 2012….
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When it is about to launch on 21-12-2012, the disaster also arrived liao loh…
better than overpriced dugong anytime. can get 2 of this anyway.
persona is fast already. Saw persona se can tapau civic and ahbeng vios on hiway last month.
anyway.. more interested on Phoenix Project engine.
no detail ah?
many said civic 1.8cc x power pun. lbh kurang waja je, cuma built dia je yg kukuh n design lawa..
what is overpriced dugong…the problem is dugong was taxed at almost 100% compared to Proton protected tax rate of 20% how to compare? what is this overpricing….silly! why not tax at the same rate see which one is cheaper with the same spec?
Leonardo said,
March 19, 2010 @ 10:01 am
Wah, so many P2 salesman and owners in this blog? They must be worried, if not they would not bother to give silly comments!
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Why? Becoz there are so many Proton salesmans here that are worried about their dwindling sales. P2 are selling better cars, better QC etc. hahahah
Times have changed. Proton can no longer say that its only 25 years old and Ford is more than 100 years old and Toyota more than 60, so give it 40 more years to be competitive.
Yes, there is improvements since DSZ took over, but the pace of change must be acclerated. Some suggestions.
Scrap the sans-Campro engine and equip all models witht the CPS engine. More standardisation = more efficiency = higher profits.
Please don’t give stupid accessories (like GPS), instead give more safety features
Scrap the Alfa-Perdana and introduce a new “flagship” model. Same for the Waja, time for a new replacement model. If Savvy is no longer viable, sell the whole platform to China / India and focus on Saga, Exora, Persona
Launch the Exora Turbo
Termninate any Vendors whose QC is found wanting
Jangan lah cakap kito tak pakai proton lepas tu kutuk dio. Semua orang pernah pakainya, problemnya kito orang dah boring, malas melihat kualiti yang kito dapat. Memanglah bangga kito ada keto buatan sendiri, tapi kalau kualiti yang kito dapat ni, malulah. Cakap lotus lotus, ni branding sahaja. Pernah lotus mendidik proton cara dia nak dapat setting suspensi yang bagus, tapi masa rekaan keto tu, tak de la pak. Semuanya orang proton. Lotus ke tak lotus, memang tuning suspensinya bagus. Takde komplain. Yang LEDnya, berapa bijik pun boleh, janji cukup terang. Kito cuma pikir lampunya besar, ruangnya banyak. Apa dengan jumlah LED yang kecik? Lampu LED pickup pun lagi banyak. Ni lah pasal banyak kutuk kutuk. Bagi saya, mungkin lagi 5-10 tahun wak beli proton. Harap kualiti dah bertambah baik.
whoaaaa…..bila proton lancer mau keluar?? engineer proton sila jawab!!!
why people always think about interior and exterior… Persona Elegance look nice and cool for interior and exterior.. Proton invest more in safety.. actually safety most important for everything.. for H-Line got ABS & EBS,, still cheap price lest than RM60K.. compare Vios, Honda City etc.. Actually Malaysian people must proud to PROTON.. because PROTON (PERUSAHAAN OTOMOBIL NASIONAL) 100% local company… Sudah merdeka pun masih kena jajah dengan JAPAN CAR..
Nama dah Facelift.. you wait for coming soon New Model and Satria Neo Lotus Racing Car.. Better simpan duit banyak2 untuk downpayment.. sesiapa yang lihat pasti tertawan… End on this month before F1… 
Silly ah you? City and Vios tax at close to 100% what was proton tax do you know go and check out first before you compare them….
Paul,
Siemens VDO is Continental now.
My brother hit a honda city yesterday. The city sudden brake…my bro tried to turn to avoid the city but BAMM!!…late!…
anyway, to my amazement, the city’s bumper londeh…jatuh sikit…hahah…the saga BLM experience a minor scratch at the headlamps.
a headlamp hitting a bumper and the bumper looses. WOW!!!
My bro even giggled when he came out of the car to inspect the damage.
I am turning my view now towards proton…more to see&validate.
honda civic & p2 myvi facelift korang xkeco pon masa keluar haritu
persona nie kira banyak yg diorang tuka
kalo civic dgn myvi berapa barang yg tuka?
price tinggi gak kan
pegi lah beli korang punya alza, myvi, vios bla bla semua tu.
aku tak peduli pun. macamlah perodua/toyota base line ada airbag abs semua. kecoh gila.
setakat 300 lebih perodua salesman ni, takda siapa peduli pun.
lebih baik korang pegi belajar design headlamp sendiri dulu baru sembang. dah la suruh vendor buat design semua, tapi mengaku engineer Perodua design. Pigidahh!
at least this variant is waaayy better than Myvi “Exclusive Edition” ptuiihhh!
surot said,
March 19, 2010 @ 10:18 am
Leonardo said,
March 19, 2010 @ 10:01 am
Wah, so many P2 salesman and owners in this blog? They must be worried, if not they would not bother to give silly comments!
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Why? Becoz there are so many Proton salesmans here that are worried about their dwindling sales. P2 are selling better cars, better QC etc. hahahah
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Since the launch of Persona E, Perodua salesman no more client to serve..so they come here to bash..haha..pity them..
Author: seanZX10
Comment:
My brother hit a honda city yesterday. The city sudden brake…my bro tried to turn to avoid the city but BAMM!!…late!…
anyway, to my amazement, the city’s bumper londeh…jatuh sikit…hahah…the saga BLM experience a minor scratch at the headlamps.
a headlamp hitting a bumper and the bumper looses. WOW!!!
My bro even giggled when he came out of the car to inspect the damage.
I am turning my view now towards proton…more to see&validate.
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A Kelisa reverse and bang into my brother in law’s Wira…. The Kelisa punya bumper on scratch little bit and the rear lamp pecah but the Wira kemek… Kelisa vs. Wira but Kelisa won…. So what do you think?
which part kemek?
wira memang terkenal with that problem la.. dont go to that time of rubbish proton cars.. he was talking about now.. aiyaahh.. haha.. chill ya all..
nak lawan like that, i can take my fathers toyota ke30 and hantam all ur cars la then.. see whose car kemek.. take facts before commenting… he was just stating an experience.. is it so wrong??
u know why myvi so expensive??..coz their parts mainly still imported from nipponland..unlike proton where 90% of their parts produced locally..u think pero2 simply put expensive price arr??..want cheaper myvi??..ask gomen to reduce import tax!
Mysticmind said,
March 19, 2010 @ 10:12 am
better than overpriced dugong anytime. can get 2 of this anyway.
persona is fast already. Saw persona se can tapau civic and ahbeng vios on hiway last month.
anyway.. more interested on Phoenix Project engine.
no detail ah?
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Brilliant Red? hehehe..if yes..it’s me..hehe
Went to Proton showroom this morning. Nice improvements (I like the new fabric for the seats, plain fabric for door trim, new tail light, new grill). My only complains are the center console buttons that still lacking in tactility and the rectangular things inside the aircond vents. Otherwise this is truly a nice car to buy. If it is not for the fact that I already have 2 cars below 3 years of age, definitely will buy this one.
Put a smarttag at the windscreen la. Why put a GPS ? Use your brain.
the sidemirror so damn hot…
http://paultan.org/photo/proton-persona-elegance/dsc_0575.jpg.php
Leonardo said,
March 19, 2010 @ 10:01 am
Wah, so many P2 salesman and owners in this blog? They must be worried, if not they would not bother to give silly comments!
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Why? Becoz there are so many Proton salesmans here that are worried about their dwindling sales. P2 are selling better cars, better QC etc. hahahah
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yaaaa betulll…aku ada baca contoh-contoh nya (baca sahaja percaya jangan
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1. Thursday, January 7, 2010
Alza Wind noise unsolve
Sad to said that the R&D cannot resolve the Alza wind noise issue.
The inter memo shows that all wind noise cases on hold.
The verdit is No Solution Yet !
Posted by kamalismail at 9:44 PM
2. I think it is not from the door visor. I’ve test drive last night, here at Kulai, Johor showroom, the sound is like sssssssssssss at the driver side. Different from the sound that came from visor. My boss actually got the car last monday, he also complaining this, but his car is more louder compared to the test drive car. So, he look at the triangle glass at the driver door, seems like there is uneven on the rubber fitting.
During the test drive, the SA actually acknowledge this problem
3. ALZA TECH PROBLEM TWO
Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:39 pm
The handle to push down the seat so that third row passenger can climb into back row.
What I have seen on a few Alza is this handle is missing and when i open the glove box it is in there and broken… no one seen this before ?
by ******* » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:35 pm
tapi aku rasa tipu je tu…takkan perodua camtu…perodua kan mantop
edge said,
March 18, 2010 @ 2:45 pm
masih rupa lama…tidak banyak perubahan..cuba lihat Honda City totally ubah segalanya..alalala…..!
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Dear EDGE
Please study first b4 place any comment. study on the car of coz…and differentiate between facelift and all-new car ; is basic knowledge. I bet this is the type of guy that cannot differentiate between honda civic and accord…..bmw E34 and E39…….Audi A4 (B7) and Audi A4 (B8)…..
why japanese car cheap?.
http://www.autospies.com/news/Jim-Press-clarifies-statement-on-Japanese-government-s-support-in-Toyota-hybrid-technologies-28326/
http://forums.motortrend.com/70/6422366/the-general-forum/japanese-makers-get-a-4k-to-14k-subsidy-on-every-v/index.html
What kinda car manufacturer with no engine to show for.
This engine is crappy because of its high revving high consumption.
It can hit 180km/h easily but after that the tappets will make
funny noise and the P1 technician will have to tighten it.
STD answer – bias
MANA ADA ENGINE CAMPRO KENA ADJUST TAPPET—PLZZZZ… UP DATE LA SIKIT OTAK TUE…
elite said,
March 18, 2010 @ 7:32 pm
design = Lotus
engine = Lotus
handling = Lotus
GPS = China OEM
bodykit = Proton
well fyi;
Lotus = Proton
jeezz. is this so hard to accept n be proud of?
After reading most posts, my conclusion are:
-The Persona not bad, good improvement especially stick-on GPS coz u can keep it when parking or use it in another car.
-Still retaining basic spec, medium spec and high spec. I don’t understand why so fuss about it. U want cheap, buy basic spec, u want everything, buy high spec. Nothing comes free these days
-The aerokit should be offered as optional because for example me, I want everything such as airbags, ABS but don’t want aerokit. For me, aerokit makes the car heavier and problem when accident or breakdown, not easy to tow and also prone to injury such as kena kerb etc.
-Don’t be suprise that some people who kutuk Proton in this threat are people who actually owned Proton. Kalau tak suka, kenapa beli.
-A lot of us can only afford to buy Proton, so the car is acceptable based on what u pay. U dont like these cars, buy Bugatti lah, the the car should be perfect.
-U buy Persona, u pay 50k to 60k. U buy Vios, u pay 80k to 90k. For the difference in price, u got better package. For me, buy Persona, then for the extra saving, i can buy other things of save them.
-U use Honda or Toyota means u got extra money in pocket to pay tax, interest etc. Like me, Persona pun cukup.
-For what u buy expensive car to show off but end up had to do mark-up for loan, then hardly use it because u go to work pakai motorbike because cannot afford to isi minyak, tol, parking everyday, then tayar botak, cari second hand and when road tax & insurance habis, had to apply personal loan. Apa punya life tu?
Life is short, play hard
MonfereBlogspot wrote:
A Kelisa reverse and bang into my brother in law’s Wira…. The Kelisa punya bumper on scratch little bit and the rear lamp pecah but the Wira kemek… Kelisa vs. Wira but Kelisa won…. So what do you think?
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ni sorang lagi pening kepala. wira mana ada R&D did on it. Persona / BLM is local made. Wira derived from Lancer. The real proton is not wira…u wanna bash pon point biar btol bro
LOL………same old POTONG.
Same old car, change a bit the headlight, change abit the bumper, change some interior trim, call it a NEW car. LMFAO.
Same trick as with the tired old Iswara that still selling until last year.
What a loser company.
Everyday I pray for POTONG to bankrupt faster.
Untuk semua…
Safety features memang patut ader bkn kat proton jer tp kat semua brand kat malaysia ni… Macam air bags, pretension seat belt, ebs, ABS ni semua di panggil pasif safety features.memang la aku tgk ada yg ckp cara pemanduan mcm org gila yg buat bahaya tp kalo org yg bwk keta steady pn mesti ada masa dia akan bwk laju.. contoh: lambat g keje, bini nak bersalin n mcm2 lg laaa.. jgn nafikan.. so masa ni la pasif safety ni yg berguna utk menyelamatkan nyawa dan mengurangkan kecederaan. Masalahnya kat malaysia ni GOVERMENT tak kuat kuasa kan dan kasi insentif walaupn antara kadar kemalangan plg tinggi kat dunia…. Ini semua salah GOVERMENT.. tau nak untung jerrr… keselamatan n nyawa rakyat tak di utamakan……..
Aku pakai proton persona, 1st version, ok jer, no problem, main kat highway memang sedap, bila cornering melekat, harga pon ok, better than vois, persona sleek design, vois agak bulky dan tembam, interior sama jer, persona+vois+cyti , semuanya plastik, tapi pintu persona lagi sedap (kukuh), tak percaya cuba ketuk dari dalam, much better than zusuki switf, so kesimpulannya kereta proton generasi selepas persona adalah baik, persona setaraf dengan donha cyti, vois setaraf proton saga.. sapa cakap banyak dia tak tahu, tapi sapa yang beli proton (generasi selepas persoan) baru tahu, mana ada power window problem lagi.. cerita lama lah wei wahai salesman..
Proud te be an owner of Kia Forte & Ex Proton Wira SE
for ur all info
last year im using Persona HL and accident with Grand Lavina at bangi,
both two cars totall lost luckly proton chasis very strong to protect drivers area and my air bag function well..no injury at all even my engine bay totall damage.. the grand lavina driver air bag not function and he had a serious injury
so keep it up proton!!
Kepalo hotak engkau said,
March 19, 2010 @ 10:29 am
Jangan lah cakap kito tak pakai proton lepas tu kutuk dio. Semua orang pernah pakainya, problemnya kito orang dah boring, malas melihat kualiti yang kito dapat. Memanglah bangga kito ada keto buatan sendiri, tapi kalau kualiti yang kito dapat ni, malulah
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Yeah aku setuju dengan kau bro..
Kita buat loan smpai 60K, bayar interest downpayment semua, dengan harapan dapat bawak kereta dengan gembiranya.. BUKAN dapat bawak kereta baru dan bersedia untuk betulkan semua benda yang rosak dalam masa yang singkat… dahlaa harga kereta dekat malaysia ni mahal gile, cukai mahal gile… atleast bila da letak harga tinggi, kualiti baguslaa sikit kan?
Bab interior material, memanglaa penting, sebab itu yang kita rasa semasa memandu..bayar mahal, then dapat kualiti hampeh.. klau setakat plastik murah, baik aku beli kereta plastic budak2 tu.. kita sayg proton, tu pasal orang keep complaining sebab nak proton berubah.. and skang ni da ada peningkatan, baguslaa..
Hey Sean! I had the same experience with ur bro. last month, i was driving my bro’s Honda Accord (2009 version), and suddenly had to make an emergency brake coz some stray cat just running accross frm nowhere. Pastu ape lagi, trus kna bang from behind by a Saga. same like u la, that Saga suffer only minor scrathes, but the honda’s bumper dented quite bad. Aku plak yg rase malu..hehehe.. Cost my bro 700 bucks to get it fixed by the honda service ctr…
Cheap & Cheerful??? Certainly not cheap. Have a look here bro & sis:
http://nanthakumar23.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/proton-car-sales-in-arab-rm-36k-personarm-33k-gen2-rm-39k-waja/
Tiadaid said,
Do you know why Malaysian life is cheap? Because Malaysians themselves treat their life like that. You know that your car doesn’t have all the safety systems, but do you drive carefully? No, still drive like a mad man. But if your car have all the safety system do you really think it allows you to drive like a mad man? No! ….
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I fail to see the logic in your argument. Making an excuse for a manufacturer because you are too cheap to put in proper safety gear?
There are plenty of people that don’t drive like mad men and plenty that appreciate better safety…and plenty that are very good and experienced drivers.
Just because there are bad apples (I hope you are not one of those), does it mean they would forfeit our chance to get safer cars? Don’t you think you and your family deserve it?
Don’t tell me you don’t?
You may drive carefully, but some idiot will still crash into you. You may be a very safe and healthy person, but you still buy insurance right??? Or save up for a rainy day???? Its called an ACCIDENT.
If Proton stuffs 6 airbags and gets a proper 5 star eNCAP, don’t you think Proton themselves would be tooting thier own horns and start promoting safety?
On the flipside, your reverse logic…would be like asking Proton to run an ad, “Our cars and milo tins, please drive carefully”…sure will encourage people to drive carefully right?
???? I don’t see how your logic is even applicable here.
faiz said,
March 19, 2010 @ 12:29 pm
Hey Sean! I had the same experience with ur bro. last month, i was driving my bro’s Honda Accord (2009 version), and suddenly had to make an emergency brake coz some stray cat just running accross frm nowhere. Pastu ape lagi, trus kna bang from behind by a Saga. same like u la, that Saga suffer only minor scrathes, but the honda’s bumper dented quite bad. Aku plak yg rase malu..hehehe.. Cost my bro 700 bucks to get it fixed by the honda service ctr…
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Wah, Honda now so fragile ah… Go for Perodua Alza(Bang Lori Also No Problem) or Toyota Corolla Altis(5 Star Euro NCAP)…
For those who complain that the price of cars sold in the 80s were damm cheap before the proton existance must see it from this angle – ITs THE DAMM SALARY THAT WE EARN HERE ARE NOT INCREASE PROPOSIONAL TO TIME…
the gaji that we earn each month (are very cheap) are very slow increasing if we compare.. eg.SG.
If the gov of bolehland going to abolish those (ridiculos) tax than u think all can buy car just like we are in US or UK kah? pigi dah…. income tax pon tak mau bayar.. ni pulak berangan nak beli kereta macam orang kat US…
See first the selling price OTR of car in Indon and Thai before making foolish comments from a retarded person like some…
nice car
i might buy this car….. maybe…..
apa yang diharapkan tidak tercapai,proton pesona elegance masih seperti pesona lama..saya rasa proton perlu baiki rupa bentuk,keselamatan,kelajuan dan ciri-ciri kemewahan.Baru boleh bersaing dengan kereta Jepun.
woi manusia..jepun kau tu berapa tahun dah buat kereta.. Malaysia kami nie baru berapa tahun??? kau rasa layak ka dibanding-bandingkan???mana la kereta buatn malaysia dapat lawan pengalaman jepun tapi kereta malaysia dah hmpir setaraf dgn kereta jepun. mcam kau..kau dapat ka kalahkan pengalaman bapa kau???
at least put gps better than dugong which put ahbeng accessories e.g illuminated meter at windscreen?
korang pakai wira, proton saga lame mmg la problem..sengal gak korang nih..
honda toyota bla bla dah lame woi dlm industri, proton baru lg..
mane plak proton persona kene adjust tepet, bodoh nye, nampak sgt bercakap tanpa pengetahuan..sengal..
toyota dah lame dlm industri pon still kuarkan design yg terhodoh jengjengjeng toyotaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa DUGONGGGGGGGGGGG
baru2 ni membe persona aku total lost bertembung dgn vios yg masuk lane sbelah, membe aku selamat, pemilik vios tu cedera parah bro, kire dah safety la tu..
peyo said,
March 19, 2010 @ 2:14 pm
apa yang diharapkan tidak tercapai,proton pesona elegance masih seperti pesona lama..saya rasa proton perlu baiki rupa bentuk,keselamatan,kelajuan dan ciri-ciri kemewahan.Baru boleh bersaing dengan kereta Jepun.
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memanglah, ini cuma facelift. Tunggu model baru lah 2012 baru kita hantam proton kaw-kaw kalau masih takuk lama.
For me all the current proton models do not really represent the true capability of proton now as thay are from the last management (even the waja replacement, what much can they do with it?)
Waiting for the next generation of proton, and if they still have not improved by then, just tutup kedai lagi bagus.
Pelase answer this question.
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Kenapa anda komen posting untuk Proton?
A. Kerana saya promoter perodua. Jadi ia adalah mesti dilakukan agar kereta Perodua tetap laku. Pendek kata dengki sebab Proton boleh buat kereta murah tapi spesifikasi lengkap.
B. Saya penah pakai kereta proton 2nd hand. Rosak sana sini, jadi datang sini nak kutuk kaw-kaw. Kereta perodua tak penah pakai, tapi dengar cakap2 orang perodua ni bagus. masa belajar memandu dulu pakai kancil ape..jimat minyak..
C. Kesian kat Proton, asyik jadi mangsa rakyatnya yang layu dan mudah lupa. Mentaliti tak ubah dari zaman dulu, import sentiasa bagus dari produk tempatan.
D. Berminat dengan perkembangan automotif. Dari tak tahu langsung apa itu camprofile switching, IAFModule, tahu la jugak.. nak harap orang jepun share teknologi, jadi dayus macam Perodua la..
E. Minat nak baca komen basher yang bangang, contohnya SY0H, Mazda 3 MPS.. boleh gelak2.. diorang pakai kancil je.. pastu komen keta Proton tinggi FC, tak ke bangang tu..
F. Saja2 mau jadi basher.. pandai komen je, tapi kerja tak tau buat.. Cakap tak serupa bikin.. mau proton kasi 15 taun itu punya warranty loh.. mau semua material macam BMW loh.. tapi halega murah loh bawah Rm20K..
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So, i’m choosing ‘E’
karipap well said… xtau baca ke??? title dah tulis ‘Proton Persona Elegance FACELIFT officially launched!’
Paul,
1. Siemens VDO is now Continental Automotive.
2. Persona has BCM meh? I thought only Exora has this.
weh..mana Si-Fu? setahun menyepi?
wahhahaaa.ramai giler sakastik commentor…
anyway kudos to proton..even im not proton user, but then i can see ur effort..
it just matter of time..keep it up…
hi faiz, i have the same experience as yours.
last week i was driving my friend’s submarine on the highway. suddenly a roach corss the lane from nowhere, i got no choice but emergency brake. and malangnya a saga blm was too fast, unable to stop then bang my submarine.
to my surprise, my whole submarine’s tail was hancur habis, but the saga blm only got some minor scratches on the headlamp. amazing right?
from this story you all can know how tough is the proton car nowadays.
too bad i have to spent RM7mil to repair the submarine tail…
laki pakai persona nampak macho.. hehe..
until when proton want to use the outdated gen-2 design. Already basi! Imagine if got no tax, which will you choose, Forte or Persona? I rest my case!
they should have also changed the steering wheel design while they were at it.
any info about waja r dsz…….cant wait any longer……..
LOL………same old POTONG.
Same old car, change a bit the headlight, change abit the bumper, change some interior trim, call it a NEW car. LMFAO.
Same trick as with the tired old Iswara that still selling until last year.
What a loser company.
Everyday I pray for POTONG to bankrupt faster.
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Hmmmm…kalau anda-anda yang tak keje kat proton tak pe la…cammana kalau ada yang baca post tu, pekerja biasa di proton? apa agaknya nasib orang yang jadi pekerja kilang, technician and pelbagai lagi la jawatan kat proton tu…mesti kene carik kerja lain kalau dah bankrupt kan…disebabkan ada yang berdoa cam tuh….so diorang kenela carik kerja kat kilang lain…apa kata kita doakan supaya yang sesiapa yang berkaitan proton ni sedar dan sentiasa majukan diri serta company proton tanpa unsur2 luar yang menjejaskan mutu serta harga proton…contohnya politik ker…pendapat peribadi je..
kalau la ada yang pray supaya tempat yang anda bekerja sekarang tutup cam ne la agaknya?
anyway…proton persona ni memang berpatutan dan cantik secara generalnya….good improvement for now.
malaysia memang boleh said,
March 18, 2010 @ 9:41 pm
To 1st car gen2
did your friend bought second hand BMW?
Haha
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FYI please check this out, i really don’t understand what were you “haha”ing…
sigh…
http://ca.autos.yahoo.com/newcars/bmw/3_series/2010/model_overview/
and also FYI,
a brand new camry cost less than $25k
a brand new civic less than $20k
a brand new yaris is merely $14k
some brainles ppl will the ask me to stay overseas, bla bla bla… but hey, i’m just trying to point out a problem that i see in our car industry…
i don’t hate proton/p2/wahtever… just that please give us a good car at a reasonable price.
how many of u here could afford a decent car without at least a 5 yr loan? i couldn’t.
Dude, correct me if I’m wrong, but Market Standard Retail Price is the price given by manufacturer, excluding profit margin+overheads & taxes imposed, anyway sorry if I’m wrong in defining it.
If people did ask u to stay overseas, u should give it a try, the car industry in most country is way much worse than Malaysia, cheap cars+loads of tax, expensive cars+loads of tax, cheap cars+no tax+rebel on the streets, expensive car+loads of tax+u complaint about the government =u end up in dark basement cell at least 3 days for no reason & etc.
Unless u never went outside of Malaysia, then u should rethink on copy+paste link method again in the future.
I don’t assume u hate proton because u must bought 1 of them for u cant afford a decent car without a 5yr loan.
Been outside of Malaysia for years & I never saw a citizens who complaints miserably about their own car like we do.
U must be the 1 who will be jumping off the feet when u see a Persona outside of Malaysia & claiming to the locals, ‘it’s from Malaysia’, when the locals answered back ‘ its not a pretty good car’ and u will proudly reply ‘ well at least we produce something rather than nothing’.
Sorry again if my reply is unsuitable within the blog post.
how kerete kemek time accident is depend on how and which part that car been hit….so dont come out wit conclusion so quick
cool…..
duk bnding dgn honda city watpa…ang owg m’sia ka jepun
sbab rakyat m’sia la proton xmaju2 lg…
b proud of our cars…
thank u
bayar cikit nak kemewahan keta jepun..
ang pikir la
proton jual keta persona 95,000 bwu tau…
the persona looks great than city or watever in its class
performance??wtf…i dun care..jus add turbo and nOS..it wil b fine.lgpun bwa laju2 kna saman jek
klu keta persona ada simbol honda ke…toyota ke..msti rakyat m’sia ni…WAAAAAAAAAA…its coool…its hot…coz made by japan…go 2 hell
Wonder why proton put the speedo with 240km/h. Pity. In reality,u can’t even reach 190km/h. Kesiann…
because campro 1.6l NA with proper tuning is capable for doing that speed. I’ve seen someone doing 250kmh on satria neo and yes, its NA.
still look ugly la this car..lawa lgi yg sblum nie..seat kete nie x brape lawa
tpi leather seat lawa..
lmpu blakang x cntik lngsung..tpi sesuai la untuk orng sederhana..
RT said,
March 19, 2010 @ 11:22 am
why japanese car cheap?.
http://www.autospies.com/news/Jim-Press-clarifies-statement-on-Japanese-government-s-support-in-Toyota-hybrid-technologies-28326/
http://forums.motortrend.com/70/6422366/the-general-forum/japanese-makers-get-a-4k-to-14k-subsidy-on-every-v/index.html
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RT, u did a good research. Now bashers u see, when Jap G support toyota, is anyone protest?, japanese protest? u protest? Nobody cares, in fact u worship their cars like crazy. But when our G support proton, protect the compony, invest and give incentives for R&D, u ppl bash them like hell. Typical bashers…..
Rugi la beli Persona elegance ni sekarang… Patut P1 tukar terus design mcm ni awal2 launch 2007 dulu… baru la ader beza ngan gen2.. Persona lagi 2 tahun dah tak kuar, kuar renew model… Harga confirm jatuh then nak trade in utk amek yang renew model pon takleh… Kete elegance baru bayar 2 tahun, ader lagi 7 tahun.. So baik takyah beli… Tunggu yang 2nd gen persona kuar.. beli yg tu lagi untung.. amek loan 9 tahun, biler nak abes bayar baru 3rd gen persona pula kuar.. So, amek feel g test drive jer la…
Ok la…nampak improvement. Tapi bila baru Proton nak tukar button bodoh & keras utk emergency signal & fog lamp tu. Ade mcm takde. Klu waktu siang tekan button tu tak tau pn function ke tak. Malam ok sikit sbb ada lampu yg tak berapa terang & masih buat org pening.
MonfereBlogspot wrote:
Wah, Honda now so fragile ah… Go for Perodua Alza(Bang Lori Also No Problem) or Toyota Corolla Altis(5 Star Euro NCAP)…
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Alza banged the lori at 25km/h da kemek gle…mne de org sudden brake hantam @ 25kmh…what MIROS did was just gimmick…said the speed was 35-40kmh…mana ada…Alza’s ugly actually. the ergonomics of Alza is bullshit. Dashboard is higher than the seating.HUH
myron96 said,
March 19, 2010 @ 12:50 pm
Cheap & Cheerful??? Certainly not cheap. Have a look here bro & sis:
http://nanthakumar23.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/proton-car-sales-in-arab-rm-36k-personarm-33k-gen2-rm-39k-waja/
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Cmon la bro, saudi G do not tax imported cars, they’re already rich and gonna be rich forever…. think again! Here we need tax to support the poor.
Sakit Sakit Sedap said,
March 19, 2010 @ 2:47 pm
Pelase answer this question.
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Kenapa anda komen posting untuk Proton?
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I’m choosing ‘E’ as well
same as me.. ‘E’.. *clap clap
But SE stil da best…
Luv their side miror…pas nak cari..masuk kat kete aku…,
Well done Proton…
kete import pn bukan bagus sgt…
its just ok to me. The only acceptable thing is the improvement of the seats which I hope its a bit more comfortable now. They should work more on quality and the feel of the car, its too plasticy inside…
NICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
Surot – check your facts. Jan 2010 car sales report by MMTA indicated that Saga outsold Myvi and is currently on the No. 1 spot.
No, I am not a P1 salesman. Are you P2 salesman?
adoii… korang ni asik bashed proton jer.. korang sedar tak yg honda ngn toyota tu byk problem.. cuma tak heboh2 jer. korang ingat bagus sgt ke servis derang tue?? member aku antar civic dia kat Honda SC, derang punyer careless smpi kemek kat bhgn pintu. Lg sorang member aku pakai city latest nyer , antar repair dashboard meter. hampeh tul honda nie.. sebenarnye mereka yg berlagak beli honda ngn toyota nie bukan pasal apa apa pun, setakat beli BRAND jer.. Kete tu rosak camner sekalipun, kalau jual sure ada value.. kalau da nak hancur pun, tipu skit, putar alam skit sure org akan kata elok lg.. utk org yg tak de budget besar, P1 ngn P2 la choice yg ada.. kalau golongan yg tak cukup budget ni ada duit yg banyak, tak pandang da Honda ngn Toyota nie.. baik amik BMW atau MERC. lg berbaloi-baloi kualiti dia..
ok lar tu..kita patut bangga kereta msia…jgn lah nk banding dgn kereta yg co nya dh kukuh..semangat sayangkan negara mesti ada..kalo tidak kita siapa lg?
elite said,
March 18, 2010 @ 7:32 pm
design = Lotus
engine = Lotus
handling = Lotus
GPS = China OEM
bodykit = Proton
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plse mention where did u got the information…if i not wrong…
-campro CPS technology-lotus
-handling-lotus
-design-lotus/local(chasis still base on Mitsubishi lancer)
Proud for proton with new generation car…well done step forward. Plse do not with Japanese model,we still young,but surely better than Korean’s car model(handling,design,fuel consumption and etc..proton much better). For those who denied proton quality,lets me told u all true stories about the cars most of we are here proudly:
-toyota-throttle pedal(nyawa bebbbbb!!!!!)
-new honda city-1: wiring failure(burnt)
-2: auto gearbox engagement failure
As x-foreman,familiar with japanese and proton car,I’m proud with what was proton achivied as a young child healthy growup to catch up the level between
famous cars model. Hopely proton can produced desireble car…for those ‘blind’…plse open ur eyes…we go for valueble car…Hahahaha..pakai vious/myvi…engine sedap(timing chain)…tanye ckit…timing chain nak tukar kos brape..dah survey????…for those ‘blind’..this is ur assigment!
nice car…. well done proton… there’s only one thing…
where is 1.8 and 2.0 variant…..?
cmon lah proton, u got to challage all you rivals…
make them duduk ternganga….
kepp up the good work
Cause thats the job of the Waja replacement and the sooner or later Perdana replacement. They don’t want two cars competing in the same market, they will loose more money
Proton Satria said,
March 19, 2010 @ 4:15 pm
Wonder why proton put the speedo with 240km/h. Pity. In reality,u can’t even reach 190km/h. Kesiann…
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Becoz later somebody will slot in turbo! hehe!
@stewpid
Wah soooooo clever ah?
Explain to me why in 1985 a Honda Civic is 21k. In 1992 the Civic is almost 70k.
What changed between 1985 to 1992? Proton. Even the soon to be released Wira then came in at 50k. Shortly after, the Civic went up to 80k++.
Not inflation. Tax. Discriminatory taxation caused your car prices to skyrocket. And why is there such tax? To protect a then newborn Proton. Denying that would be foolish and ignorant.
Then, 1997 happened. The ringgit got massively devalued. Every import car price went up, and Proton followed suit.
Your gaji is pegged at inflationary levels which are published every year.
If your gaji went up the same rate as car prices, we would all be earning millions and our currency would be like the Bath or rupiah.
No doubt our gaji hasn’t caught up to the real inflation/CPI rates, but it is still long ways from the massive increases in prices of cars.
proton xde jual ke siap enjin turbo ?
tgk gambar mcm² la….
tak nampak keluar pun…
ke org malaysia ni kene MOD beli enjin halfcut jepun
buang duit rakyat…
rakyat byk mati kemalangan kereta buatan malaysia…
buat la banyak ciri² keselamatan,sistem brek ke tgk kereta jepun punya spec…evo twin port cengkaman kuat..kalau proton disc brek blkg pun kedekut nak bagi….
This will keep the sales flying high.
Good effort on the aesthetics. Price reasonable.
Wished more was done for the engine.
This is what I think:
1. New colors look fresh.
2. Black interior, leather and white stitches are good offer
3. Re-tuned ECU sounds interesting.
All in all it’s a good package although it’s a fact that any maker would offer more at this life-span.
4. The High-Line have good package but the selling price is a bit on the high side.
5. Cost cutting exercise can be seen clearly in Base-Line model. The base line model’s rear passenger seat is ridiculously small, plus the foglight bezel looks very cheap.
6. I still dont understand why the floor mat is still the coil type, and the skirting is of aftermarket type/ look. Perhaps Proton should learn MORE.
All the best.
hurm.. pasal GPS kat cermin pon nak kecoh.. kalau tanak.. just throw away…ade gps.. salah.. takde gps komplen..
but for me design AT LEAST better than vios which is look like c**k swinger dugong…
comfortable yes.. i do own neo cps.. very comfortable.. powerful..
as for this persona elegance.. i dont think they should renamed it with elegance, it doesnt look like as what as the name given.. but congrats.. at least they are trying to put an effort to make the car fancier..
but on service wise.. mmg proton still lemah.. and still cant handle customer demand…
tapi tolong la pikir..korang beli kereta harga less than 60k.. and expecting like having a 600k car.. what the hell is that.. if u want a better one.. go work harder.. earn more money.. get the expensive car.. and shut the f -up
hahaaahaa
kesian kat p1
org malaysia (melayu, cina, india, bumiputra dll) sume bsatu hati kalau nak bash p1
mmg smngat 1 malaysia
well, this is what malaysian goods for, give negative complaint but never try to help to improve
thats why malaysian are losers
malu la ngan negara china ngan taiwan
so I suggest that proton can ask people what do they really want for their car, and proton try to design a car that compatible with their needs
apala guna IPTA2 kat malaysia nie, ade fakulti kejuruteraan tp xreti nak kerjasama ngan industri
pastu industri plak bodoh sombong, mintak la tlg IPTA buat research, then beli la ngan diorg, br la student dpt rasa pngalaman buat projek yg real, nampak hasil
syg dol kalau resource ada tp xnak implement dan utilize till max
tgk org jepun, europe, diorg buat collaboration ngan university
universiti buat research, industri bg duit, pastu industri commercialize outcome research
br la industri kite maju
org2 yg bash proton byk2 nie mayb diorg blaja takat spm xlepas kot
entah2 xmampu nak beli kete
hahahaha
@4G63T DSM
1) PROTECTIONISM
Why do you guys condemning gov for protecting Proton? why not condemn US gov for protecting GM and other giants with trillions of dollars? Explain to me why we can’t protect proton and give them room for improvement?
Japanese did the same thing in 1930s. Now they’re the largest in the world.
Korean did the same thing in 1960s. Now they’re 4th larget in the world.
If Japanese and Korean have similar mentality like those bashers here, we will never have Honda, Toyota, Hyundai or Kia now…. why?
imagine if Japanese & Korean president/prime minister in 1930-1970 say:
“why bother develop our own car? why bother creating Automotive Act? we can simply build assembly plants for GM, Ford and Chrysler here…”
Ford, GM and Chrysler produced 208,000 cars between 1925 and 1935, while Japanese domestic manufacturers produced only 12,000 units, a mere 5%. However, the “Big Three” were forced to stop production and withdraw in 1939 after only 14 years in Japan with the passage of the Automobile Manufacturing Industries Act which aimed to eliminate dependence on foreign manufacturers for reasons of “national security”.
Anybody could explain why this couldn’t be considered as protectionism?
Thai government banned CBU imports and increased import duty on CKD in 1978, why? imports was far greater than exports and causing trade deficit. Car manufacturers have to build CKD assembly plants to sell cars in Thailand. They are also required to use 20-50% local parts even though parts produced in Japan are cheaper than Thai. I think Toyota & Honda fanboys would still think this is a “fair” policy. But I do feel if Malaysia took similar steps as Thailand (disallowing imports of cars to allow Proton to grow), many people here will shout “gov is unfair”.
Don’t just bashing here for your own personal gain but forgetting about the country as a whole.
2) TAX
There is a reason why tax implemented. Singapore tax is very high. The reasons could be to reduce oil imports and avoiding jams by reducing cars on the road. Exora is RM70k here but RM170k in Singapore.
From what I read, Malaysia has similar reasons. To avoid trade deficit, to reduce jams, and to reduce spending on oil subsidy (currently RM5billions per year) by discouraging big cc cars.
It’s completely different in Saudi Arabia. Saudi exports 10millions barrels per day, compared to 300,000 barrels from Malaysia. That’s 3.5 billion barrels in a year! Saudi Arabia is not bothered about import tax because they earn RM700 BILLION from oil exports. Malaysia only get RM20 billion. But here’s an interesting question:
Camry 2.4 costs RM140K in Thai but only RM80K in Saudi, and the funny thing is the car originated from Thai… why is that?
I’ll let you come up with your assumption.
what” japanese did the same in 1930s” ? what the hell is this japan was in war with all nebouring country in 1930s and 1940s
mofaz-U R A DAMN GENIUS.it’s good to have sbody in the know.
MoFaz said,
March 20, 2010 @ 4:56 am
1) PROTECTIONISM
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I don’t have a problem with Protectionism as long as the Country and ALL its people benefit (gosh, I sound like a socialist now..LOL)
Do enlighten me how our NAP has benefited our Country? Tell me how mnay new jobs had NAP created, vs, how many we would have gotten if asian automotive hub has not moved to Thailand and stayed here?
After 20 some odd years, where is the “reduce dependence on fuel subsidy”, where is the public transportation to “reduce jams”? Reduce consumption? You do realise that small CC cars (under)powering large cars does no favour to fuel consumption? Why not use emissions output or vehicle size class instead as a function of road taxation? Why stop the road tax discounts at 1.6L? Why not 1.5L, or 1.3L or 1.0L? Why not foster new technology to improve efficiency, including turbocharging, clean diesels?
We all know why all these doesn’t happen. Because of NAP, and why is NAP there for? To protect the Automotive Industry. Not to benefit the citizens of this country.
The country is locked into paying high interest loans to banks and having a large chunk of PDI into transportation. What is the savings ratio of a typical middle income earner with a new car, such as this Persona?
only the big corporation benefits. You think the rest of Malaysians reap the benefit of this NAP? Perhaps you may be the few that do hence your defence of it.
On the contrary, the NAP has given us nothing but substandard transportation. Cars are insanely expensive, public transportation is non-existant.
Good example now you bought out the Thai. How come their automotive industry has been nothing but triving despite the political termoil there?
Malaysia has a big start in CKD cars…long before Proton and “national” marques…. and now we are still back to square 1, with Naza and Perodua basically still “CKD’ing…. We had an automotive industry before NAP.
NAP has been nothing but to spin money around to the select few. Don’t even get me going on the AP issue.
Don’t ever confuse Protectionism from the Rape of the country’s riches. There is a fine line there, one that we (more accurately the powers at hand) has no problem crossing into the wrong side.
I appologize dragging Proton through dirt, but like it or not, they are part of the problem. For what its worth, I do believe they are doing what they can do, and thier cars are improving in quality, but sometimes, just doing enough isn’t good enough.
to all car owners out there…price is what you pay..value is what you get..!!
can u just tell me HOW is that not even worth 60k? do you know specificity?
then tell me what kind of bloody car u can get for 60k which can satisfy everyone?
haha, 20,000km service still have free labour charge. wait until it’s no longer free and see. and what do you change after 20,000? not much right? wait until you need to replace brake pads and few other things under ‘major’ service, then come back here and tell us frankly how much you paid.
beli lah proton….beli lah barangan buatan malaysia…….
cuba lah pergi ke kawasan industri ringan senawang…..
tengok lah kereta apa yang rosak teruk kena accident……
beli lah barangan buatan malaysia…….
pandu lah kereta nasional yang sangat “selamat”…..
hahaha,selamat nak kemekkan,kereta bodoh……waja pun dapat EuroNCAP 3 star….i pernah tengok mamat sial pandu kereta Saga BLM ( Boleh Lagi Mampus ) pandu kereta tu macam ferrari,depan mata langgar belakang lori…tu lah,mentality rakyat malaysia,siap ada kereta Proton dan Perodua,nak berlagak pandu laju laju,nak tunjuk kehandalan tin tin mudah kemek….akhirnya mampus kena accident…………
tu la,cuba korang pegi kat kawasan industri ringan senawang,tengok kereta mana yang rosak teruk….kereta kereta yang handal dengan bunyi ekzoz sial…..hanya ada bunyi,tapi tak laju…..taaaapiii,lagi nak tunjuk belang dengan kereta buatan negara lain……..tak guna……
proton dan perodua tak guna !!!
p/s semalam ada viva sial tailgate aku kat highway,ada ke anak sial ini tak paham yang tin mudah kemek 800cc tak boleh mencabar kereta 3000cc……..nie lah yang boleh dikatakan,takde otak nak pikir,nanti accident satu keluarga mampus dengan kereta nasional……..
@4G63tDSM
I’m not related to Proton (not employee, not a vendor, and also not distributor). But I’m disappointed with low-level mentality of bashers here. And just for your information, my salary is more than enough to buy and pay monthly instalments for 3 Vios, but I still choose Waja. I guess you will never understand why because most of you are blindfolded by your own mentality.
Gov will always protect Proton. As I said before, even USA is protecting their own GM, Ford and others with TRILLIONS of dollars. Now, check what’s happening in Japan and Britain. Their gov are awarding millions of dollars for R&D to develop new technologies such as hybrid and electric cars. Don’t you see that even the biggest car manufacturer still needs help from their government?
300,000 workers are linked to Proton in factories, vendors and distributions. Perodua have almost 9000 workers in Rawang alone. NAP not only protecting Proton and Perodua but all those workers as well. Do you think P2 can survive if Honda City being sold at RM50k?
Yes, Malaysia and Thailand were always compared against each other’s automotive policies. Based on GDP and export volume, Thailand seems to be in favour of most, if not all reviewers. However, I would like to point the facts that it’s better to learn and develop own industry rather than becoming a mere ‘assembling’ facilities. Don’t get me wrong, I agree that foreign investors are definitely positive thing. But the real ‘profit’ belongs to the foreign companies. As I mentioned before, we won’t have Honda, Toyota, Hyundai and others now if Japanese and Korean choose to assemble cars for GM, Ford and Chrysler instead of developing their own cars. My points are:
1) How long do you want to keep on assembling CKD? Your technology achievement will always at the same level or maybe you didn’t learn anything at all. How many changes can you do to CKD or rebadged cars? Just look at P2 for example, can only design bumper? It’s because of limitations on licences from copyright holders. When you produce own car, you learn how to make a better one. I’m actually proud at Proton achievement so far. Exora is new king of MPV in Thailand, and Emas will be our introduction to global market.
2) It will make certain models from Toyota/Honda cheaper than current price, but other makers will be still expensive. Do you get all cars cheaper in Thailand after Toyota producing cars there? Bashers will still complaining why Mercedes expensive. What’s next? Ask Mercedes to open factory? Then ask VW, Ford, Ferrari, Porsche, BMW, Audi and all build factory here too until Ferrari become affordable to you?
3) If we talk about assembly plants, Thai have advantages. Population is 2.5 times more than Malaysia, means there’s more labours. Do you think a lot of people here want to work for RM700 per month? Even Perodua has problem to get 400 additional workers. Malaysia is no longer ‘cheap’ in labour / workforce. If Toyota in financial trouble, they could just close factory and open somewhere else. 100,000 will become jobless just like that. Dell, Intel and Motorola are among big companies that have scaled down their productions here due to rising costs. So, what is the solution? Factories will use more robots, or get cheaper labour from Indonesia and Bangladesh. We now have more than 1 million foreigners here, do you want more?
4) The big manufacturers employ more robots than human. Industry and manufacturing contributed 44% of gross domestic product (GDP) for Thailand but employed only 14% of the workforce. It doesn’t help much to improve quality of life in the whole country, and more than 10% are still below poverty line.
Hmm panjangnya komen.. dekat sejam nak baca smua.. yg kaki bashingnya, yg penyokongnya.. smua nk bg komen.. tp aku sokong dgn 4G63tDSM, it make sense.. kira masuk otak ah..
ap yg berlaku kt negara kite sebenarnya ketidakadilan… tp ramai yg malas nak fikir.. duk sebok dgn benda2 remeh je… betul lh kita kene bersyukur & selalu compare ourself with less fortunate then the most fortunate, tp kite kene sedar & open our mind.. internet is our tool to do just that.. kengkawan semua!! surf lh betul2 & wat perbandingan.. belajar lh dgn org lama yg bnyak pengalaman & knowledge.. jgn lh dok komen bende2 bodoh pastu gaduh mcm bebudak.. rileks lah beb.. senyum selalu beb..
Automotive kt negara kita ni mmg teruk! bukan nak kutuk tp reality!! aku bukan nk cmpur bab politik ni, tp mmg dia berkait besar.. Our G is the policy maker.. diorang yg wat keputusan smuanya, 50 tahun dh pegang stereng, bg lh org lain pegang plak kan?
Proton? aku takde lh nk kata x bangga, biase je.. tp klau Proton mmg power sape x bangga kan?! mcm org German dgn Porche dll.. France dgn Pug dia org.. Italian dgn Ferrari dll.. anak beranak aku pun ade yg keje kt Proton, selalu jd insider utk aku.. aku pun pakai Wira & Gen-2.. Wira aku so far mmg puas ati ah..aku beli thn92, tp Gen-2 05 mmg x berapa oklah.. nak wat camner kan dh beli pakai je lh.. tp setakat ni lh, quality masih merangkak lg.. adelah improvement, tp sekadar je.. aku yakin & penuh percaya Ir. proton smua power & berkebolehan tp bnyak yg diaorg xleh nk implement.. smuanya sbb kekangan kewangan…
so buat stakat ni x banyak yg boleh diharapkan slagi our G still di takuk lama.. mmg mcm nilah negara kita.. duk kene bersyukur dgn ape yg ada.. member aku yg keje oversea smua dpt merasa yg best2, baru2 ni aku off station kt middle east skjap pun dh wat sakit hati.. aku punyer Gen-2 cuma RM40k++ je, yg h-line tu.. tp ape nk buat? hmm keje jelah kuat2.. semata2 nk sara idup sefamily… while our MP’s berseronok dgn kot Mark & Spencers ke hulu ke hilir naik keta best2..
PEACE..
Tak taulah kalau saudara biasa tinggal di luar negara ke tidak, tapi kalau baru ke Middle East sahaja dan sakit hati tengok Gen 2 RM40k++, saudara mesti kena banyak lagi merantau dan meninjau ke negara luar yang lain.
Middle East kereta memang murah saudara, kalau saudara ke Saudi dan Emirates atau Qatar, jualan kereta tanpa cukai/cukai rendah+harga minyak murah sangat2. Jadi memang selalu rakyat Malaysia yg baru pertama kali ke luar negara terutamanya ke Middle East terlopong dan ternganga melihat Escalade, Hummer, Charger, Acadia dan meleleh air liur melihat Maserati yang berdebu xdibasuh berkeliaran di atas jalan. G policy ni semua G buat, Japan, America n Britain protect their own automotive industry same like what we do. But Malaysian is the only 1 who love to bitch around about their G’s rather than the others. Sebabnya dengki tengok kawan boleh pkai kereta import, kita ni xtau la bila, di Malaysia kalau pkai T & H tu dh kira berada, tp itu yang saya sarankan agar saudara keluar negara lebih kerap dan satu hari saudara akan terkejut bila ada orang bukan Malaysia yang kata kereta Proton lebih bagus daripada kereta T & H tu. By that time, i bet u will smile up to the ears!:-)
+ Marks & Spencer tu kt Malaysia jek org kita tgk branded bagai nk rak, kt luar negara mcm jenama baju kt Mydin jek bang…
@4G63tDSM
What benefit do you want actually? to be able to drive a luxurious car for the sake of disrupting our nations deficit? do you know what made Greece goes to bankruptcy? too many imports and less exports..do you know what made the Germans economy one of the best?? exports is more than imports..you really want to know how many job opportunities that had been created out of the NAP??..vendors suppliers contract workers small medium enterprises workshops ah beng accessories all require workforceand can generate incomes..that is the job opportunities that had been generated by NAP..stop saying as if nothing has been benificial if youre not working in the industry yourself..
the automotive industries hub had switched to Thai??so what??they did CKDs just as we did!! im not sure whether there are any tech transfer happening there but i havent seen any thai national car brand coming out yet other than tom yams and shampoos???public transport is almost none existence??youre not blind are you??cant you see those putras,stars,monorel, komuters and buses running around you???..i personnally think that the service is acceptable..crowded and taffic jams are normal since you even have it in advance countries such as japan, US, Germany..
Now dont you try to preach the pembangkang mentality by saying that protectionism and rape of the nations wealth is a fine line blabla…you cant blame it all on the G..the G has provided decent opportunities for us malaysians, but it is us malaysian..yes we ourselves fu**ed up the whole thing by not doing the right thing..bribery,misuse of power, and other illegal stuff are done by Malaysians themselves..we will never be like the japs, koreans and germans if we stay this way..its the mentality that needs a change..not the policy..
my 1 year old persona:
1. cheap and poor rubber door quality,going to suffer with this whitish rubber for the next 9 years,poor me, even a poor myvi is not this bad.
2. the bonnet is make of ultra light weight metal.feel very cheap.the open-close operation is bad.no inner r/f to the bonnet.outer part x inner part + some sealer,that’s it?if you guys wanna design this type of bonnet,please la make some design improvement.even my 15 year old wira more “ummh”
3. wind noise coming from the Rr LH qtr glass.when cruising at 110kmph,need to up the radio volume due to the wind noise.tlg la check item ni
All in all, before nak facelift anything of the persona,please la look through the current basic model,the finishing is really not satisfying.
the automotive industries hub had switched to Thai??so what??they did CKDs just as we did!! im not sure whether there are any tech transfer happening there but i havent seen any thai national car brand coming out yet other than tom yams and shampoos???
>they have more then tom yams and shampooss. they might not have national car but thier economy on the right track. Look at their currency. we are no better then them, only our may media do not publish all the data and stats. Please find out more.
public transport is almost none existence??youre not blind are you??cant you see those putras,stars,monorel, komuters and buses running around you???
> go to bangkok, is jammed. but their LRTs and taxis services are better then us. even in Hatyai, we could pay RM 2 to travel around the town by the “tot tot” car. Can we have this in malaysia??
20 years ago we were same league with HK, Korea and Singapore. Sadly, to day we are same league with Thais, Indonesia and Vietnam. 20 years later we will be with Camboja, Myamar and Loaos.
Look from inside out and outside in to know where we are. We love malaysian and would like to see Proton become intenational brand. But are we on the right track? By the way for the pass 3 years proton is doing the right things. I like proton but not National Automotive Policy.
the back seat is so straight,u bound to have back ache after kl-penang ride,the dashsboard looks better in a minivan,not a sedan,so kinda wonder what are the people at the r&d is doing?cant even put the rear sit right.
well,fellow malaysian,we be better off in a 2nd hand german or french car,or a japanese.your days are numbered proton,really,keep playing this game,you ll be a goner.
u know why in aeroplane, they ask you to adjust your seat about 90 degree?
man, u are driving a sport car when u drive Lotus tuned Persona..
Johny5.
I’m sure you forget to report the problem at services center. Your car still under waranty. forces them to do the repair. Try to find good services center. Cannot forget my experiences last time when send my sister wira to EON. That technician looking for everything that he can add more charges.
You should read Alza forum. Services center are their 2nd home now.
very well meter panel > kembali kepada wira yang asal > very-very nice. Thank Dato CEO.
Well, I think Mofaz made a good comment overall from point of view. I like.
BTW, yesterday, I test drove the Elegan at K.Trg showroom along with my family with 2 small kids and a dealer SA lady (with trade plate). It was a Medium AT. The cabin was very quite I barely hear any sound from the outside. The engine went very smooth during hill climbing along Bkt. Panorama ( btw JPJ to TNB if u know where it is). I can’t speeding since it was raining & my kids were on board to test the cornering…but so far I found the performance was not bad at all. Nice white Optitron meter led that glows once u engage the key to start and dim slowly when u disengage the key.
I like this car but still waiting next Waja Rep. soon.
Ohh I forgot to mention the rear seats, it was better than the previous model, better angle for comfort seating. More relaxing and less tiring for a long journey…well depends how tall are u anyway.
Btw congrates Proton..
Just 1 things, why proton elegance not use cps engine?!
Body just look a bit difference as persona SE.Just accessories proton changes at new persona.that it can be upgrade later..Anyway.. Almost same like persona product before..Nothing Shock for a new product Proton Persona..i mean “Elegance” …I think it may give name Persona “extended”..EXT hehehee
Keep Going Proton..Make a big Difference For motor Arena..make a big Changes..I will support Proton!! yeagh
nice car..SYABAS Proton..what ever u all said..already book it..!haha..
persona elegance looks best in black.. swap the rims with vip styled one.. sure mantap..
seen n tested drive persona elegance, passenger seat still too straight, difficult to brake, the rest is fine
@yippi33
Is it too much to ask to have a rakyat’s world standard car since we are paying more than world standard prices?
In case you have been missing, the country is bleeding dry from a loss of FDI. Make your own conclusions why that is hapening. The country is loosing its competitive edge.
You mention Technology transfer. If the country is loosing its best engineers and those that replace them are products of our increasingly poor education system. Tech transfer is useless. FDI creates jobs. new jobs build experience. FDI increases your salary as demand for experience engineers increases.
You said it yourself, only those who are benefiting from the industry (you a vendor perhaps? a car salesmen?) But at what percentage of the overall national workforce does it support. You are part and parcel of the problem if we do not have a competitive edge.
Don’t get me wrong, the idea of a national automotive industry is a noble one. Unfortunately, as with a lot of things that started with good intentions in this country, it gets polluted by Umnoputera politics.
And what price does everyone else pay for that small subset (I don’t want to use the word subsidize) of workforce?
Public transportation? If you think that hacked together mess of LRT and minibuses qualify as public transportation, you ain’t seen nothing. Besides, what about the rest of the country?
hurmmm aku tak paham le kenapa le org suke benorr bli proton, perodua ni. mmg le kalu nak di compare dgn kreta toyota, honda, kreta nasional nampak mcm murah jer. tapi ingat le sket bahwa interest rate utk kreta nasional tinggi giler. tapi utk kreta non nasional, interest rate rendah.
hurmmm in the end, bayar bulan bulan lebey kurang sama jer. baik korang bli kreta non nasional. at least, reliability & kualiti tu lebeh sket dari kreta nasional.
org berduyun2 bli dugong sbb enjin dia mmg jimat minyak. mmg le dugong tu nampak mcm tin kosong je. tapi sebab enjin dia tu la, ramai org bli dugong. wat ape bli kreta kononnye penuh dgn features, handling bagus, tapi kuat makan minyak.
resale value toyota honda pun mmg lebey tinggi dari proton perodua naza. ini adalah hakikatnya.
soo proton, kalu ko nak retain existing customer, ko kene la buat sesuatu pasal kualiti kreta ko tuh. develop enjin yg sama taraf dgn enjin toyota honda tu. weed out those sub par vendors.
kalau dah seseorang tu tak mampu.. biar je la itu rezeki dier.. ish2 pikir la sikit kalau hampa dok ada keter mahal2 nak berlagak wat apa?!! kalau betul2 kualiti p amik Merc ke BMW ke..!
Kalau nak lebih laju amik TOYOTA PRIUS kita bawak laju sangat.. dan kita BREK PUN dia masih gerak besh kan toyota skang yang disanjung sanjung kan ^__^
camana pedal minyak leh terangkut!!! apa da…kalo korang lebih drp mampu pun lu org takkan toyota atau honda..baik beli bmw or merc..biarlah duit diaorg…
buat enjin sama taraf bg power mcm toyol-ta & honda???
saga BLM 1.3 slamber je kasi tinggal vios & city 2009 1.5 ko tak tau ke???
how come no comments yet .. ??
cun jugak
For H Lines, what’s the differences between Persona SE? Currently, Persona SE has very long time waiting period.
Nice..Hopefully the quality also will be as good as the looks.
Congrats P1
Salam..
so bad…
adui..aku baru jer kuar persona SE bulan 2 lepas…
Kalu tau..aku tak kuar awal2…
Kenapa proton baru sekarang nak buat signal side mirro dn lampu belakang cantik macam tu… saya dah beli Persona Model lama. Bikin sakit hati betul dan bikin panas
aku yg pakai persona 1st edition x rasa ralat pun sbb x banyak p’ubahan… lain la klu kwn aku yg pakai honda city 3rd edition dgn honda city latest punye…
yea… i dh booking dah… loan pun dah lulus !!!!!!! dlm next week dapat lah…
plate number pun dh beli… i bli plate number A_Y XX… 2 nombor je tau…
i ambik yg highline punye… ade leather & gps lg…. x sbr la rasenye…
i ambik colour bronze tu tau… ala.. macam coklat gitu… i like cocholate… he..he..he..
aku nya lagi cantik
cepatnya dapat .. kat sini mungkin 1 bulan baru merasa.
yups2 ^_^ sama colour ngan sayer ^__^
biasalah. rakyat malaysia mudah ditipu. tukar sikit, kata facelift, kitorang percaya.
so, what is the defination of facelift?explain
persona facelift nie tipu…tipu tang mana?…nk tahu juga…..cuba fahamkan maksud facelift tue….jgn marah ye…nnt kena jual….
dah nama facelift……pi study apa yg dikatakan ‘car facelift’……klu tdk tau buat jer tdk tau…..
he know nothing about car i guess
Any car manufacturer will make sure their car will undergo a facelift. It can ranges from massive changes like the engine and gearbox to minor changes like equipment and headlights/taillights.
The only time when it is considered all new like Honda City/Nissan Latio is when the chassis has been changed and so are the major components. The Toyota Altis and Vios can’t be considered all new cost underneath its basically the same. Not sure about the Vios though but for the Altis, its the same
aku nya pesona lagi canti dari yang baru ni
semart . lampu blakang macam c200k yang baru
nice job for proton
xpi harap2 xrosak power window cam persona yang lame
ok?
banyak prob skit persona dulu
rite…pesona ni ramai yg complaint
kerete nie cam aerodynamik jugak
btw
persona lame cam kerete bahulu/mr bean punya kar de
Mitsubishi still want the model what..
ok la …..beli ikut kemampuan ok,cakap banyak tak de.yang penting tanya poket dulu sebelum beli, ini tidak gaji cukup aje nak pakai honda la hapa la, nak bergaya, luaran nampak bangga jer dalaman hati ada panas n resah sbb duit cukup2 makan………………………..
CONFIRM mahuuuuuuuuuuuu beliiii!!!!!
esok pegi show room dan test drive!
bulan 6 tahun depan aku beli….
owh yeah….
bulan 6 tahun depan aku beli….
owh yeah….
suker sgt….
uishh.. kalau tahun depan baik takyah beli, tunggu la persona replacement. italian design woo
tahun nie x ley sebab x der bajet..
huhu…
xper x pown tggu WRM
waja replacement model…
if engine 2.0l….baru call elegance
pot pet pot pet..blah lah..it is just a facelift model..so, give it a breaklah..huhu..!
persona byk problem…
Beli la BMW..ke Merc ke, Porsche ke, Bugatti ke…banyak pilihan kan? Kereta ni yg tak banyak problem(?)
Porsche Panamera pun ada problem seat belt!!! hrga RM1juta tu….
persona byk problem..
sy rasa pesona kena ada airbags tak kira base line sbb harga pun 46k jadi patut ada sbb saga blm 38k pun ada airbags so kena tengok jugak.harga pesona bagi saya dh ok bab lain sy rasa xde masalah.proton ada byk lagi yg nk di kuar kn.saya yakin dgn engineer proton.harap proton makin ligat kuar kn model sporty baru gempak sikit..saya pun pakai pesona menyesal beli awl klu tahu ada kuar yg smart ni.bab rim sy rasa proton kena guna 17inc tok pesona memang cantik gila lh setakat nek 47k tmbh rim bebaloi sy rasa…yg nk guna keta luar negara tu g duk kat luar negara.bangga sangat dgn keta luar.saya minat keta luar tapi takde nk kutuk hasil sendiri ingat lh kita kuar keta tahun bila diaorg kuar keta tahun bila…
lu pikir lh sendiri
joker..
What about Vios J which priced at 75K and NO AIRBAG AT ALL???
bkn nk kutuk kete Malaysia..tp ramai yg complaint pesona ni byk problem..sy pn guna pesona gak..tp setakat ni xde masalah…maybe sy jarang guna kot..tp mmbr sy yg slalu guna n jln jauh byk complaint…break bunyi la..tutup tingkap pn bnyi bising gak..mcm2 complaint yg sy dgr…so, pihak proton kena la tingkatkn lg mutu pesona ni
very nice improvement design….already booked this cute car….
side mirror is cool
tahniah proton kerana mengeluarkan persona ellagance ni blh tahan juga.
wah…org malaysia mmg gile kuasa hehehe…mcm aku jg la…
kwn2 aku rmai je pkai proton ni..x de pl yg rosak..elok je..
member aku sorg pkai persona m-line manual..
die test persona standad die leh g 220kmh..kat LPT..dah la naik berempat…so nk laju mana lagi kn…..standard je 2…CPS x yah cite la..
IAFM leh setting bagi power…member aku baru wat..hasilnye..naik genting membanggakan hehehe….
Dont ever dare 2 criticize MALAYSIAN product!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lucky u all born in malaysia—-
U r right
lor…sure anot…now malaysia siding u can la u talk lidat..try imagine ur own country against u n c….mayb u get to taste some of ill earnings in malaysia…coruption bla bla…thts y u can shout lidat…
corruption is everywhere in planet EARTH…
luaran mmg cantek…tp dalaman kacau..cuba masuk waja punya kokpit
anymore comments from anyone who test drive the car?
persona elegance so gorgeous…n more sofistikated if generared by cps engine…proton must more aggresively in develope a new hi-performance engine like cps………n no need to take so many time to put cps engine in persona elegance,…
those who use the ” sial” word showing real carector…..what you said, what u talk showing your maturity….so sad when malay people use sial word juz because about the car………………………………………..
“aby”, bleh nyatakan apa problem yg persona ada? stakat nie,mmg ramai sedara dgn kwn aku pki persona..xde complain pape pn..diorng ckp ok je…
sit belakang asyik bunyi jer…break pn same…
those who hav a comment to help n improve our national car juz go direct to Proton Holding, Perodua n Berita Harian….juz waste time to comment in this…..u want imported car go ahead la…..no need to tell everyone la…..i can buy imported car but i still use waja cps coz of my patriotism……….i realized without MALAYSIA who am i…maybe “merempat’ di padang tandus utara tibet…haha
apsal lah tak masuk kan cps…. aku tunggu persona masuk cps jer maybe avangrade nanti kot..
..very nice
sport car to young boys
…i like proton
Proton has wasted almost 10 years without much of technology enhancement during the tenure of Tengku Mahaleel. If only DS Syed was the MD of proton during the 1990s, things might be different. Proton has lose many of their future customers as those who bought the car before year 2005 won’t buy their brand anymore because of quality issues. They would prefer to spend more money to buy at least a Toyota Vios J. It takes someone like DS Syed to turnaround proton. I bet if Tengku Mahaleel still with proton, u won’t see any Exora around.
I own and driving around in a non Proton cars.
But I am lucky because my company cars are PERDANA, WAJA CPS, PERSONA and SAGA BLM. (EXORA tak de plan beli lagi).
So, I get the opportunity to test drive the PROTON cars and even manage to judge the performance of the cars. Well, here are my very FAIR observations.
1. LOOKS (outside). No doubt, from outside, PROTON cars are quite good looking with the exception of SAGA.
2. LOOKS (inside). This is where PROTON fails (with the exception of PERDANA). The finishing is BAD. You can see the finished products lacks passion. Cheap plastics door handle, whitish door rubber seals, gaps inside the doors seal,cincai dashboard etc.
3. ERGONOMICS. This is again where PROTON fails. The main ergonomic issue is the power window switch. You have to bend your hand like bapok/ponda/aqua in order to operate the power window switch.
4. ENGINE. This is where PROTON fails (confirmed). While other manufacturers are turning to variable valve timings,non timing belts engines etc. PROTON are still using mechanical engines with the basic concept of aci sesondol and aci engkol to work the pistons and the valves and they called some of it as CAM PRO where PROTON bashers creatively called maCAM PRO!. So, I can notice the different especially at RPM vs SPEED. I must say PROTON engine running at higher RPM vs SPEED compared to the other cars engine (with the exception of PERDANA)..Thus, = higher fuel consumption.
CONCLUSION
To PROTON – Please get feedback from users and update their comment in the next facelift version. Facelift supposed to not only improving looks, but also to improve quality and defects of previous version.
To PROTON BASHERS – Register your comment to PROTON officially.
TO PROTON FANATICS – Sometime you have to accept PROTON failure.
TQ
” While other manufacturers are turning to variable valve timings,non timing belts engines etc. PROTON are still using mechanical engines with the basic concept of aci sesondol and aci engkol to work the pistons and the valves and they called some of it as CAM PRO”
What do you mean? Do you want VVT technologies? go for CPS.
Some more, what engine doesnt have ‘aci engkol/ aci sesondol’ as basic engine design? do you mean ‘Rotary’? even boxer/flat engine have aci sesondol/ engkol valve etc.
come dude. use your brain to do any comments.
apa maksud nak guna kena bend ur hand mcm bapuk kalu guna kete proton? xpaham. bukan ke sume kete yg company ko guna tuh sumenye terletak kat side door? apsal plak nak bongkok?
cheap plastik, if take persona elegance versus new honda cityversus new vios dugong, how do u know proton use cheaper plastik compare to city n vios? do u know the price? i dont see any soft or rubbery plastic in new vios n city, all hard plastic, same as persona.
3. ERGONOMICS. This is again where PROTON fails. The main ergonomic issue is the power window switch. You have to bend your hand like bapok/ponda/aqua in order to operate the power window switch.
- this is funny shit
my sister owns the new Honda City and the dashboard is no other same like Persona. Super hard plastic. Dont let me start with Vios.
I am the real proton customer, not a salesman or what so ever basher..
to be truth, I have persona first version, medium line, manual trans & I have no complaint at all.. Really satisfy with the design and performance.. To people who have zero knowledge, please buy ‘re badge’ car lah.. so many re badge car at the market, go and buy as many as you can (buy all).. then you will makan asap kat highway lah.. then you know the performance of Persona.. haha.. or.. change the re badge car engine to turbo.. haha.. then u dream a mini sport car.. or ELITE car like BMW.. hehe.. I love the feelings when let the re badge car makan asap.. haha.. LOL..
is good
very niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Suck! i hate the tail light, still like older one.
why not proton makes big differences,such as electronic gear on steering, build in gps on radio/dashboard, sunroof and other lates technology..
Only facelift, facelift, and facelift.. plus more, rebadged!
no quality, no durability and not value for money
think first b4 buying proton product.. or else get 2hand car from branded name like Honda, Toyota, Nissan and etc..more value and more durability.
2nd toyota, honda n nissan. yeh,value,n durability. but how about safety?somebody will said waja only 3 star, but recently toyota urban cruiser with 6 airbags 2009 oso 3 star, waja test in 2002. wow, hebatnya toyotakan. have u seen toyota, nissan or honda cars during nineties what is their safety rating. can visit euroncap n youtube. if u want to buy japanese marque, buy the newer one, not the old one.
If buy 2nd Hand, no warranty!
Myvi facelift so many times and you’re not complaining ?
Myvi is also a rebadge Passo!
Not value for money ? Myvi is selling at RM51500 and Persona is selling at RM59500. So with RM8000 u get quite a lot more equipment GPS, Cruise Control, the extra space, leather seats, more power and torque and etc
Ps: I’m not bias and not any car manufacturer basher
Persona kali nie ngancam gak. Pakai bumper gen2 CPS. Papepun tahniah buat Proton yang dah berusaha wat yang terbaik untuk kereta nasional kita. Aku pun support kereta nasional. Aku pakai gen2 CPS dan aku bangga pakai kereta tempatan. Masalah kecil tue normal la terjadi kan bro. Ikut cara kita jaga kereta masing2 la bro.. Kereta kan bini no.2 kita. Hehe..
bro…pemikiran masalah kecil tu normal tu kena remove la…xlarat da weiii…
sedangkan manusia pun ada masalah, mana ada kereta yg perfect. masalah yang xpatut fikir lebih2, mmg la xlarat weiii
masalah yang x patut fikir lebih2? kelakar nye bunyi..kalau dok ulang alik pegi service center nk repair fragile power window wat pe bro..ko comparekan manusia dengan machine..memang kelakar la supporter proton ni…
bile masa plak dia ckp minor tuh repair power window? lawaklah basher nih
halo carLover…nie br first time persona buat facelift…persona model tulen proton,bkn rebadge…mitsubishi pn mnta model persona sbg tukaran dgn model waja replacement yg akn kluar hjng thhn nie..
Bro,
Get ur fact right la !
Mitsu want our Exora, not Persona ! Then we take their lancer. Got it?
Stupid !
both exora n persona..than we take their lancer..
Agree with some people here.. they should offer a manual 5-speed for the H-Line too! I would like to have all the features of H-Line – 4-disc brakes, ABS, Airbags, factory leather – but at the same time, rowing our own gear.
But come to think of it: When the Wira was introduced in 93, the highest spec sedan (1.6 XLi) only offered in Auto. Only when they introduced the Wira Aeroback, they offer a manual version of the 1.6 – but in Aeroback only.
Every engine has the same design layout that consists of crank shaft, engine block and piston except rotary based engine that did not use piston as compressor. So don.t say you want a new engine when to build one will cost you a loooooooot of fortune.
proton management sucks..dprd persona se until now ak still x dpt kete ak lg..masa ak bli persona se they give an excuse ckp nk launched persona elegance..then ak tunggu persona elegance..but now,ak tny they keep give an excuse ckp production for persona elegance for high line x byk..n proton HQ not release yet at proton showroom for high line spec..they said early april br nk release..what the hell…i’ve already waiting for my car for 2 months..y they always keep giving an excuse??sucks..
adoyai.. aku g servis 3S Plentong jay bee, kete 2 dah brlambak sampai.. tinggal nak wat last inspection b4 pass kat buyer.. aku ingat baek ko g cek kat tempat laen (yg ptg bkn gune agen la)..
I won’t want to talk bout the protection or import tax part, u can search the comments from mofaz above to make u clear..
what i wanna comment is about the safety feature such as airbags and abs, truly if it were give as standard…u wouldn’t get the base-Line model to be RM46k would u? let say the B-line is approx. 50k if given an airbag as standard..then some customer would come n say why pay more, let airbag as an option…
some wanna pay more…and some wouldn’t care for all the feature as long as its affordable to their own budget. If u want airbag and ABS, buy the H-line, the price for B-line will change when u let the option feature as a standard. or do u think u can get everything for RM46k??
everyone deserve quality, and i agreed and why a lot of Malaysian loved Proton and even if they got a problem with it, they can be solved by the proton SC (based on my experience they’ve been helpful) Proton have a quality of its own that sometimes the basher s are too blind to even see it. and furthermore..it’s our own car, a car that we can proudly say as a Malaysian car, not a Malaysian rebadge car. not many can say they have their own car, Singapore? Thailand?
progress need patience…and we slowly are progressing bit by bit, the first step is already behind..all we can do is keep looking forward. Have faith and support is what any local companies need…even Proton.
Proton should redesign the dashboard or at least use better quality materials for the various buttons. The current one was brought over from Gen2 and should be upgraded. As owner/driver, you will be staring at the dashboard day in day out and I tell you as a former owner of GEN2…simply unacceptable. Kudos to PROTON however for improving the overall desirability factor of the Persona.
Pada pendapat sya,Proton perlu byk lakukan perubahan dari kosmetik bagi model Persona ni.Seperti perubahan bentuk lampu hadapan yg menghampiri 6thn pattern yg mcm tu.Selain dari itu perubahan lampu belakang bukan setakat ubah tataletak lampu isyarat dan reverse je..Harap sgt jika Proton mampu keluarkan pelbagai model seperti Persona Coupe atau Persona Estate.Baru dapat persaingan dan pilihan byk bg pengguna.Rsanya tiba masa utk Proton keluarkan model SUV dan Pick-up bg bersaing dgn pengeluar dr Jepun dan Europe.Saya x kondem Proton sejak dikeluarkan dr thn 1985 tp selama 25thn ini kira berbangga juga.Perlu difikirkan jika copy atau jv dgn syarikat luar kena tngok aspek maintainence dan kadar jualan juga.Kita bimbang bakal terjadi jika masih tidak ambil iktibar dari model seperti Tiara,Juara,Satria Neo dan Arena.Apapun model seperti Arena tidak ketara, juga Satria Neo akan kegagalannya.Saya berpendapat tiba masanya Proton juga dpt keluarkan model gantian kepada model Perdana.Sekian lama juga menunggu tp lum ada citer.Rsanya ok juga klu ambil dari model Galant thn 2008.sebab model tersebut laris di seluruh dunia.Saiz dan rekabentuknya boleh menandingi model Accord,Altima,Camry.Pernah suatu masa dlu di luar negara sya ternampak model terbut juga dikeluarkan dlm versi high spec 3.8L V6.Maju lah Proton utk negara dan bangsa kita…!
why in proton edar web didnt say anything bout GPS? just want to reconfirm..tq
more support more can improvement..together we achieve more….did you know how toyota can survive when they produce the 1st model…….because of patriotsm of nippon…….kaizen da kamikaze…so malaysian should proud our own product….
saya mampu untuk membeli kereta import yang lebih mahal tetapi dek kerana ingin menyokong produk tempatan saya rela memiliki keluaran proton….tetapi pilihlah yang kita rasa kita mampu dan premium sikit…macam saya walau saya sokong proton tetapi tak semua saya suka tentang proton….dan ada juga model proton yang saya tak suka cth tiara, juwara, arena dan savvy…so saya pilihla waja cps…so far ia prestasi enjinnya amat mantap…dan aksesoronya amat berpatutan…bayangkan dengan 60k saya dapat kerusi kulit pasang siap, lampu bi xenon, dan enjin prestasi tinggi yg amat menjimatkan minyak dan berkuasa 127 hp……………..hampir2 menyamai enjin vtec…..so tepuk dada tanya selera, apa yg anda mahu dari kereta anda..kalu mahu jimat minyak pilihlah vios, kalu mahu jimat minyak, berkuasa, dan harga berpatutan pilihlah waja cps…
promote2 ni mcm salesman p1 je bang.. ker abang ni engineer p1??
S.Roma,ok klu btul exora pn,maknanya proton dh produce kete yg bgs…smpi mitsu pn sggp tukar exora dgn lancer diorg..klu proton pnya model xbgs,igt mitsu tu bodoh sgt ke nk tukar model dgn proton??
what is the different between proton envy and proton elegance
envy kan hybrid…
for me,PROTON STILL SO STUPID…REALLY BODOH !! sial btol PROTON..dengan rakyat sendiri berkira..HARAMJADAH..dah la harga mahal ( JUAL KT LUAR MURAH JA PROTON,dlm Malaysia mahal cam haram )..pastu SPEC berbeza2..apa ni?..mana dia nk tolong rakyat sendiri?..patut H-Line below RM50k la..ingat org Malaysia smua kaya?smua mampu?bodoh btol CEO Proton…harga x setimpal dengan keadaan semasa..patut bg la smua spec (Airbag,ABS , keselamatan & etc),xyah la beza ..apa da..bangang..tu pasal aku pilih SUBARU IMPREZA V8 dari Proton bangang ni..nk jgk support Proton tp…WTF
kelakar la ko nie…
LOL SUBARU IMPREZA V8? hmmm if you can afford that you won’t be complaining about PROTON’s high price right??? Ppl who complain about the price usually becoz they wanna buy it but can’t afford it =p….
bla bla bla… go play with your impreza toy car.. shuh shuhhh
senang2 ko la jadi ceo….tak pun drebar ceo…maybe ko buleh suggest komen ko direct kat ceo…
gilo
Wow, there is a new Subaru Impreza V8 ?
aku rasa ko ni yg kurang sikit ilmu ni..kau x belajar ekonomi ke? kereta proton ni kat luar negara still kecik lagi..so kalau nk compete kene lar letak harga rendah..cube ko bygkan kalau letak harga kereta proton sama dengan kereta subaru ko tu…confirm org beli subaru …sbb band die dah lame..ish ish ish…there always a reason for proton to do that.. dorang tu sume terpelajar…
man..why no high-line for manual~
i no thing to says .this car very nice very.very.very nice
good and elegance. anyway i booked one
kenape Proton asyik buat produk yg sama ajer…no different….we want something look different…ini sekadar tukar nama sikit…dh kate baru…Gen2, Persona, Persona elegance…revolusi bentuk kereta tidak ada langsung…cube tgk kete lain…kan nampak perubahan walaupun nama yg sama…apekah Proton nk jimat duit nk buat design baru…atau mmg malas nk pikir buat bende baru…tgk design bhgn depan kete Gen2, Persona, Neo…semuanyer sama…bentuk lampu sama…tak bosan ke…cuba la ubah sikit…
otak sempit..kesian
myvi standarad
myvi limited edition
myvi SE
myvi executive
myvi facelift
ni ko tak bosan? no different? tukar bumper je..
Eh apasal lampu myvi sama je dah berapa kali facelift.. Yang paling lucu ada juga myvi@passo/boon wannabe yang letak barang plastik kasi sepet headlight myvi tuh.. Tu yang menunjukkan owner dah bosan dengan headlight myvi.
Proton best dh skrg..nak highlight keburukan mmg la takkan abis…perodua pun ada model yang tak brp berjaya di pasaran…ada yang kuat makan minyak, ada yang mcm mudah tumbang..even model2 toyota pun ada flaw dia…be patient, and be supportive..
Bagi saya x wajar bandingkan Proton dengan Perodua. Perodua layak dibandingkan dengan Naza. Kereta Proton dah x rebage lagi. Perodua dan Naza masih rebage. Senang cakap kereta rebage memang laku kat Malaysia ni… kalau dulu era Wira (kereta paling laris) kemudian Myvi. Kedua-duanya rebage kereta Jepun. Mentality rakyat Malaysia masih mengagungkan kereta dari Jepun… rasanya sampai bila-bila…. Kereta Proton x kan laris macam perodua selagi proton tidak rebage kereta Jepun. Pecayalah.
ok, sy smlm bru je testdrive (26/3/2010) di showroom sitiawan, perak… mase drive.. mmg tip top.. power steering die mmg smooth… bleh dikatakan mcm bwk vios / city… pickup mmg ok… rase nak beli je…
Yang nak gelak tu…. ank sy kat turunkan tingkap blkang tu… dua2 belah.. x leh naik balik, dua2 belah x leh naik!!!! tegelak kite org sume… salesman tu… muke malu je la.. trpaksa la benti kat tpi jln… naik blik tingkap tu….
Last2… dh mcm tu… sy slambe je ckp kt salesman tu… “BELUM BELI LAGI.. DAH ROSAK MACAM2… BELUM SAMPAI SETAHUN LAGI, NANTI DH SETAHUN X TAU LA APE JADI NGAN KETA NI NANTI”… salesman tu trpaksala mintak maaf kat kite org…
So, kesimpulannya, kereta m’sia mesti ade problem… drpd beli keta proton ni.. lg baik bli vios / city…. kualiti tip top… x de msalah… tahan lame… beli kereta m’sia.. baru pakai beberapa tahun dh rosak sane sini…
tengok mcm tadi tu.. persona tu… blum sampai sebulan lg… dh rosak power window… Alang2 beli je city / vios tu… tambah ckit je…
ha… lepas ni… jgn plak korg mrh aku sbb x bli kereta m’sia.. ak komen ni.. sbb nk bgtau je… rase2 x leh terima komen ak… gi surf tempat lain… k..
Banyak kali tulis city / vios …….. ada apa-apa ke? kehkehkeh
a’ah la beb. gua punya tingkap keter baru pun problem gak.
baru nak bawak jalan jauh skali.
bikin malu jer kat plaza tol kena bukak pintu bayar tol. mangkuk tull. kereta baru plak tu. kata tip top,siap dapat award konon.
ops tp luper lak nk bgtau..
ni kereta toyota hilux bos gua la. nak advice dia suh tukar p2 nautica la plak.
ops ada lg ke keter tu…
gua minat gak,sporty. tp kt web p2 cam dah xder jer. tersorok jer.failure je model tu. sori,xtau la
alahai… orang ni nak bagi comment jer… knape perli plak.. die dah bagi kan tarikh n katner die test drive… g la cek dulu… betoi ke tak… nak bash jer.. korang ni ader kne mengena ke ngan p1?? pastu bagi tau keburukan kete lain… die compare ngan city /vios sebab sume org compare ngan kete tu.. harga dah dekat2kan.. even p1 sendiri selalu compare spec persona ngan vios/city… aisehhh korang ni…
huha…aku sokong ko…dorang ni xleh terima hakikat keta proton memang problem yg berulang…still nk protect proton…kita highlight ni, nk bgtau mana ok ke x ok…yg dorang emo sangat ni apsal…aku pon tgh cari kereta jugak…mula2 nak amik persona elegance, tapi sendiri experience getah pintu tercabut kat show room, aku skang mencari nissan sentra 2nd hand…tak tau btol ke x tindakan aku ni..
ia adalah sistem keselamatan dimana penumpang belakang tidak boleh buka tingkap sewaktu kereta sedang berjalan, too dangerous..
so, bila kereta dah berhenti, ia berfungsi semula..
entah2 kamu dah tekan butang lock untuk power windows belakang..hanya untuk pemandu sahaja open..
tapi aku rasa ni cerita tipu je ni.. saje nak reka cerita power windows failure..
tapi… power window persona lama ak rosak gak…. asyik nak g repair je… tp x pe… waranty ade
kepala hanguk ko SUKI… sistem keselamatan konon… kereta aku ni.. dah beratus kali asyik repair je power window ni….
Agaknye… ko ni pakai kereta import kot…
Kesian…..beli je vios type j tu ye….hahahahahahahaha
Ko cerita semua tu.. org pecayakah.. ntah-ntah reka cerita… dlam blog ni ko cakap benar ke, bohong ke… orang tetap anggap ko bohong la…. Osomu, aku rasa dia nie salesman toyota la… asyik2 cakap vios jer… menyampah…
aku cakap FERRARI… ha..ha..ha.
i’m sorry for doubting ur story…but u sound like a desperate toyota salesman imho
wakakaka…. kalo 1 minggu pun hang dah boleh dapat rm10k.. but apa sembang pasal vios atau proton ? sembang aja pasal bmw atau lelain… skim cpt kelentong ke? hahaha
tapi kan abang wa pakai neo 2008 power window rosak gak.. boleh turun tapi takle naik… nasib baik boleh warranty lagi… tapi pokok pangkal, knape la still ader masalah power window klu sume kate p1 inproved?? klu cakap ni mesti korang tak caye kan?? so mcmne nak buktikan yer??? ape kate nak korang sume suggest p1 kuarkan senarai keter yang di servis at SC?? kite tgk statistik kete2 p1 yang ader masalah… hahhaha… selama dok banggakan dapat duduk no1 pilihan rakyat?? kite kasi kua plak yang terpaksa diservis semula sebab prob…
Seteruk-teruk proton pun dia orang pandai gak buat center console aka armrest dlm sesetengah modelnya. Tapi perodua dari Kancil sampai ke Myvi, semua x ada armrest. Kalau kat Alza tu, bukan armrest la.. tu macam seat kecik je. macam van atau lori yang boleh duduk 3 orang kat depan.. Perodua pakar buat bumber tapi centre console/ armrest pun x pandai nak buat.
ya….minggu depan aku dapat persona elegance..tak sabar….pi lantak orang nak komen…pasal kereta persona elegance ni…bukan kau orang bayar untuk aku pun….kalau orang malaysia tak sokong kereta keluaran sendiri…siapa lagi…????? kaya kan jepun miskinkan negara sendiri.
What ever crap Proton produce I hope the quality improved as my old pesone sucks bug time and when asked in the service center the answer is ” Proton macam itulah bang !!!” What a crap kind of answer… so this year I am with Hyundai !!! so much better !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alaa its just a car…. korg tau ape jadi kat BMW 7 series xcident kat melaka 2 bulan lalu… hancur macam besi buruk terselit bawak trailer…. cube korg fikir… ape yg anda harapkan pada kereta anda tentang safety…. adakah 7 series tu punya airbag yg keliling tu membantu…. hmmm adakah ABS ke ABD dan kejadah yg lain disumbatkan dlm kete tu membantu menyelamatkan satu keluarga dlm kete tu…. tidak tuan2… jgn condemn kete buatan malaysia… ia cuma sebuah kereta… manusia yg cipta… sedangkan ciptaan tuhan pon ada cacat celanya…
Ya ! kalau tak ada Tax pada kereta import proton dah tutup lama dah.
Quality, accessories dan keselamatan Proton masih lebiug teruk dari Kereta dari China !!
aku x kira ape org komplem…kalo aku dpt persona nih kasi tebo jer…
Test drove the persona elegance yesterday. Was impressed with the whole package. A few shortcomings but I think I can live with it at the price offered. The door closed with an impressive thud; better than much higher priced car and certainly didn’t feel like “tin milo”. The cabin was fairly quiet even when I revved the car uphill. When the accelerator was pressed hard the gear shift was obvious but on a usual drive, didn’t really feel upshift or downshift of the gear. Did emergency breaking, the persona coped very well. The cornering was precise. Overall, I was so impressed that I put in a booking straight away. I think proton is trying hard to win customers and I think it is working. I compared the persona with my old inokom matrix (RM70,000 brand new, after 3 years lots of things started to become dysfunctional and paintwork at door handles eroded), at RM50+K, the elegance wins hands down.
test drive yesterday, no more anoying sound from engine and air cond, they’ve improved the NVH factor. i wish i could do the same to my current gen2 CPS. Any Idea anyone?
Dah test Drive… memula fikir nak angkat Honda City Vtec 2005 2nd, harga lebih kurang dengan Persona Elegance.. fikir2 balik, baik angkat keta baru ada warranty sehingga 3-5 tahun..
So, dah test dua2 keta, City Vtec 2005 dan Persona 2010.. tak reti sangat nak komen, tapi Persona best ambil selekoh, very responsive.. aircond no.1 pun dah sejuk, side mirror pun besar, ada improvement. Interior City nampak mewah sikit dengan material dia guna, tapi Persona pun nampak ada improvement.
bila listkan kebaikan dan keburukan dalam tempoh 5 tahun, finally decide ambil Persona sajalah.. tak kisah la org kata ‘miskin’ sebab pakai keta tempatan, yang penting ada GPS sampai destinasi pun tanpa sesat, ada warranty tak risau jika rosak, dan suspensi/handling terbaik untuk keseronokan memandu.
p/s : So, baik pegi test drive sendiri.. percaya pada diri sendiri bukan pada desperate salesman kat sini.
yg penting ada GPS? hehehe… pi lowyat RM500 je brader… nokia 5800xm pun ada built-in gps…
ada warranty kalau tak rosak? u mesti tak pernah hantaq warranty ke proton SC niii…
ada org masih tak paham ttg term warranty ni… yg diaorg tau kalau ada warranty, repair benda rosak free… tapi diaorg tak kira faktor lain :-
a) buang masa
b) buang duit
c) tekanan perasan
Kat highway maintain bawak pesona 1st edition 190km/jam ipoh kl ok jer tak goyang. potong vios selamber jer siap bagi high beam lagi. Takkan bawak vios pun takut bawak laju kot. bagi aku puas ati ler pakai pesona nie…kalo yang tak pakai tu, beli dulu ler baru komen. setakat tau komen tak elok jer buang mase aku jer dengor…
GPS lekap kat cermen la ok. kalo ada 3 bijik keter, tiga2 leh guna GPS tu. GPS nie functionnye semua keter, moto hatta beskal pun len guna. kalo dan permanent melekat kat keter tu rugi ler takleh nak guna kat keter lain.
a’ah..betul tu..
gps klu lekat terus..ada lak kete yg kena umpil nant..
klu blh buka, sampai destinasi blh simpan tmpat slmt sblm meninggalkan kete..
kita tak boleh bandingkan secara totally sesebuah jenama krn masing2 ada target tersendiri…toyota lebih kepada penjimatan minyak..tapi handling dia mcm sampan, performance enjin memang xleh lawan cps proton……honda lebih kepada performance dan sportif……..kalau tengok proton memang ianya takkan setanding dengan jenama jepun yg dah lama establish mcm toyota, mitsu, honda, even dengan korea pun proton masih dibelakang…but secara relatifnya proton berkembang dan cepat belajar dalam jangkamasa yg agak pantas…antaranya kerana ia disokong penuh oleh kerajaan dan korporat melayu kelas A…..proton baru start produce kereta 1985…tapi toyota dan berpuluh-puluh puluh tahun lamanya produce kereta….apa yg membanggakan untuk certain2 part kereta proton mendahului jenama proton…jepun tak berani pun letak Lotus Handling untuk kereta mereka tapi proton letak sebab ia memang buat sebab buat kereta untuk dinikmati..bukannya macam pengelaur kereta import yg pentingkan penjimatan kos dan fikir rakyat malaysia akan beli apa saja barang import walau ia tak kualiti………dan lebih membanggakan dalam masa kurang 30 tahun proton berjaya mencipta enjin prestasi tinggi seperti cps…fikir-fikirkanlah…berfikir dengan mata hati bukannya setakat ikut2 org…org beli keta import kita pun iukt aje tanpa kita tahu apa sebenarnya yg kita mahu daripada sebuah kereta…n tak semua kereta import xde masalah…tapi kdg2 org yg pakai kereta import ni diam saje kalau ada masalah sebab takut ego tercalar…….saya boleh nak pakai porshe cayene tapi demi negara tercinta saya pilih proton…fikirlah sendiri…
toyota pun pernah meminjam teknologi Lotus dalam kereta produksinya…satu ketika toyota telah menggunakan suspension Chapman Strut buatan lotus untuk kereta sports Celica dan imbalannya Lotus menggunakan enjin Toyota untuk salah satu produknya….u see Toyota sendiri mengakui kehebatannya handling Lotus…dan realitinya hari ini LOTUS adalah anak syarikat PROTON HOLDING.
It is a cheap budget car for those malaysians who miss the elegance lifestyle.In protion they can taste it on the cheap.In UK such cars fall into the lower budget category.What they want to sell next?Persona maybach?Malaysia really needs to grow up.
Kereta terbising di dunia. Lepas bawak keta mesti berdesing telinga. Betul tak?
Enjin campro sangat bising ditambah pula kereta yang tak sound proof langsung. R&D bertahun-tahun macam hampeh tak pernah improve bunyi bising. HAMPEH PROTON, BUANG DUIT JER BELI!
ada brani gi test skarang. our policy test dulu baru beli. takyah cakap banyak2.
ni ko bawa keta proton tahun bila??? klo edisi lama baiik tak yah… keta toyota, honda lama pun berdesing gak telinga…
nak tau bedesing telinga ka dak p test drive dulu pastu baru bg komen… na test drive tu tak yah kluar duit pun…. tak rugi apa pun…
Abang aku pakai neo 2008 bising jer… Engin myvi lagi senyap… Ape kes??
emmm, sebenarnya beli kereta ni bergantung gak pada nasib. Bulan kedua aku pakai vios tempat isi minyak tak boleh buka, kalau kat petronas tu kena keluar kereta n ketuk baru leh buka , malu je kat org sekeliling kereta baru tapi tempat isi minyak tak leh buka, pi hantar toyota dia betulakn semula. 2 bulan selepas tu bunyi pulak tik tik kat area air cond n radio,jalan je kereta dan mula bunyi ,sometime buka radio pun leh dengar, hantar balik kat totoya dia kata masalah biasa n dia orang betulakan,
Setiap benda yang kita nak beli tu ada kurang dan ada lebihnya, kalau semunya sama, dunia ni jadi boring
betul tu.. tak semua keta import sempurna..aku pakai toyota avanza.. pintu penutup isi minyak tak boleh nak tutup..tekan masuk ia terbuka semula.. terpaksa la jalan jugak.. malu gak kat org lain.. kualiti catnya hampeh.. mudah calar.. lagi satu sthn aku pakai..aku langgar sekor ayam kena bumper dpn..terus terjungkit keluar bumper sblh kanan sampai hari ni dah 5 thn aku pakai..lain2 tu takde masalah
masing2 ada kelebihan…dan kekurangan…myvi memang jimat minyak, cantik n cute..itu pasal ramai buyernya pompuan n lelaki yg berciri feminisme…tapi but (letak barang)belakang kecil dan tak best nak bawa laju di hiway coz juz 1.3, banyak cut off..n tak stabil
Persona elegance cantik gak tapi agak besar dan kurang ciri feminisme…tapi but belakang besar dan memang stabil di lebuh raya sebab handling tegap dan 1.6cc…
Tak caya….try la bawa Myvi lebih 130kmj di hi way….mula2 rasa gegar lepas tu kalu tak slow down kan jugak paham2 je laaaaa…………….
kepla hotok ko bawak laju2!!!! klu yer pon nak support p1, jgn la smp suruh org bawak laju2!!!!
jgn marah… haha..
dia hanya menyatakan pengalaman.. sebab kawan2 ada pakai viva, and diorang mengadu, problem ketika membrek.. so, the thing is, semua kereta ada pro and cons.. sebelum beli, test drive.. ada problem, gi center, and buat laporan… nak pening kepala, marah2, bashing kat sini, nanti anda mati sakit jantung pada umur muda.. 
hehe
myvi tak tau lak, nanti cuba buat survey di kampus..
insyaallah,saya akan bgtau fakta ok? jgn gaduh2.. tak elok.. 
ape pun oghang kutuk pasal proton aku tetap bangge ngan proton persona elegance ni aku dah pun booking persona ni
Proton has improved a long way, and as a sign of my faith I have bought one for my mum. Fyi, cars are for you to take from point a to point b, and most cars have problems its whether you can afford to own and maintain them over the years that is an issue.
A brand is just a way a company wants to push for premium pricing. Why else would and under specs accord 2.4 under CKD would be priced the same as a CBU Mazda 6 when the cost of production plus accessories are higher.
Manufacturers blame import duty goverment control etc, the truth is the want to make every extra dollar on each unit sold.
I dah pg tgk VW Sicrocco and VW Golf, kat UK price difference is GBP1K aja same specs. But in Malaysia price difference is close to GBP6K. X ada logik in the pricing pun cuma ambil kesempatan nak make extra RM36K.
Betul ke Proton ni ada input Lotus Ride and Handling?Kadang2 Proton ni cakap kosong jer!Sejarah telah membuktikan bahawa bila Gen.2 mula2 dikeluarkan dan ditampal dengan badge “Campro”!. Ramai pengguna yang mati2 ingatkan Campro ini ada Cam Profile Switching, tapi rupa2nya Campro ini adalah bermaksud Cam Problem!
try ur self… u will feel different when u drive proton car…
Aku baru je nak beli PERSONA Elegance ni. Aku mmg x penah guna kereta PROTON ni. Tapi nmpk dari fizikal menarik gak la Persona baru ni. Harga pun ok gak. Apa pendapat korang semua.
dlu aku angan2 nk angkat Vios or City .. tapi pikir2 byk lagi bende/perkara yang nk dibeli. contohnya: rumah, nk kawen, pastu nk jenjalan, pastu nk bagi mak ayah dan adek2 yang perlu.
Pastu nk simpan duit la..mne tau ade bende yang terdesak/emergency perlukan duit on da spot.
pada aku, kalo nak beli kete ni bkn setakat mampu masa beli je..tp kene pikir mampu nak wat mentenen. aku lbh prefer ganti gen2 aku ngn persona ni drp beli vios dugong or city. performance belom tahu vios or city lagi bagus. handling sure proton menang pnya.
kawan2 aku yg da bawak CIVIC pon kata walaupon ianya honda n build berquality, tp dari segi performance x jauh beza ngan waja 1.6 tu.hemmm..
apa2 pon ko gi test drive dl
I support, our counter part in Manila using Civic as company car and they have bought 7 unit. 5 unit got transmission problem.
So I guess, every manufacturer has it’s own problem..
Honda recall in USA is due to brake issue. More worst…
iswara gua sedap lg nk pakai ni.tggu proton drop harga kaw2 br pk nk tukar.hahaha
lu org x terasa ke harga dia still mahal?
Why are proton not giving the best of what they are having and keep holding back for next facelift. Just give your best to the market as what market wants. Holding back signal light at side mirror during the first introduction of Pesona was a stupid thing, now Proton is coming with this and no body is appreciating it as Myvi are having it years ago.
Now Proton is coming up with GPS sticking up at the mirror, this anybody can buy and install it themself. Proton imagine – POOR.
Imagine if during first introduction of Persona it is equipped with GPS, reverse camera, monitor built in with the dashboard, it will be trend setter for local car brand and those CKD cars. What so difficult for Proton to include the GPS, reverse camera built in to the dashboard, Proton can built a complete car but cannot do this?
It did it with my old Merc actually Save Cost accessories shop did it for me. Proton has wrong priority, what ever reason Proton did not know how to tackle Malaysian.
Still depending on Nationalisme as selling point. Pity those people who love the country so much being taken a ride by Proton especially TDM supporter.
LED rear light is so command in cars on Chinesse road, it is not so high tech, Chineseis folding LED light even so small toys and candy, Proton should works out with Chinese manufacturer and install them during first introduction of Persona, now too late, not much of impact.
Poor engine performance of Ixora is not taken seriously by Proton, why can’t Proton comes up with1,8l, 2.0 l, or 1.6 turbo charged engine for Ixora as premium model, Existing Ixora is very GOOD except the stupid engine. This is also so difficult? not to Proton workers but Proton Management to decide wisely.
TDM or PM to push Proton Management to take wise decision, I am very sure Proton workers are very eager to produce good quality cars but bad decision and direction of Proton Management is stopping them. We still remember the stupid Proton Management sold Augusta for one Euro.
Malaysian leader pls helps us / Proton.
hello kawan, I use GPS a lot.
Plug and play is good option.
I can bring along when changing car.
My friend ferari 430 spider also doesn’t have GPS so I bring mine…
Hehehe surprise he told me this is good option.
If u need reverse camera and so on, there’s a lot of accessory shop can do that.
Even for the engine, a lot of after market stuff available..
I think if you can afford Mercedes why still look at persona.
More equipment = Higher price
So really do you want to buy a RM90000 Proton Persona Elegance that comes with 7 Airbags (or even more), TCS, ABS and ESP, 6 speed auto with paddle shift, built-in Satellite Navigation with Reverse Camera , Climate Control and Electric seats ?
With that kind of price tag, nobody will be buying that car apart from you cause with that money, you can but the Japanese Honda City Grade E, Toyota Vios TRD or Nissan Latio Ti or Korean Kia Forte 2.0SX. All of them has their own perks!
City: 5 gears and paddle shift, Vios: excellent fuel consumption, Latio: Comfy seats, Forte: Generous equipment
So really would you buy a RM90000 Persona ?
If you family is inside the EXORA, would you want to redline the car all the time and drive recklessly ?
In the not too distant past, Proton never provided airbags, abs, satellite navigation and various others safety and creature comforts equipment, but now they do. So why not give them a chance as they are slowly improving ?
Does Proton produces IXORA ? I never knew that!
paul, danny, i heard proton will produce persona R which equip with CPS, manual trans, new spoiler etc..is it true?do u hear any of these thing from proton guy?
also cld you pls double check that this new persona has improved body structure.
bila u all mau test drive. i’m interested to read your comment on it. ciao ciao
persona R is all new model. Like SAGA BLM and old saga.
aku rs proton msih lg xberkembang,wlaupn kualiti ade improve sket tp design kete msih lg low,mcm tangkap muat je janji ade baru,suka amek design dr kete lain pas2 ubah sket2 n then jd le kete baru,2 bkn kreatif,inovatif,sp pn lh wat mcm tu.. bg le design yg fresh,x terikut ngn model2 lain,proton kne ikut brand2 lain design diorg xpnah pn amek dr model lain,wlaupn nm model sama tp design hmpir 100% different.. lagi satu psal ade 2-3 jnis specs plk,n then safety utk kete base line xde lgsung,kmungkinan org yg gn kete base line lbh tdedah ngn bhy sbb xde airbag,abs n mcm2 lg,klu nk kurangkn accident kne ltk airbag sekurang2ny utk kete base line ni..
dulu thn 2002 aku penah pakai wira 3 thn thn aku pakai.. memang ade problem power windownye.. skali pintu sbelah driver n kali kedua pintu belakang..tp nasib baik masih dlm waranti.. lps tu aku jual beli toyota avanza sbb anak2 aku dah tambah ramai.. tp bwk avanza tak sama ngan drive keta sedan.. skrg aku berkira2 nak beli keta sedan semula sbb gaji aku + gaji bini rm8000 lebih (hehehe) .. dulu aku nak sambar gen-2 cps.. tp aku tak berkenan ngan bodynya…jadi aku nak tunggu persona 1.6 cps..tunggu punya tunggu tak kuar2 jugak enjin cps nya.. sedih rasenya..terpaksa aku postpone hjg thn ni kot2 model gantian waja yg sejibik mcm mitsubshi lancer tu kuar.. moralnya kat sini aku nak citer…walaupun income aku mampu nak pakai vios dugong ke..city ke.. tp aku lebih minat ngan proton sbb ape kualiti keta proton dulu dah tak sama ngan skrg.. n prestasi enjin nya lebih kurang aje dgn vios n city tu.. tmbah2 lg enjin cps..perghh bedesup beb.
kalau persona taruk CPS tutup terus market utk Gen2 & Waja
persaingan sesama adik beradik
bkn proton je power window problem…produa pn same gak
i think sume kete same je…power window problem
haha… elektronik will always give problems i think.. kereta apa pun.. kalo tak takkan camry boleh tekan pedal minyak sampai habis dengan sendirinya? kalo pasal window ni,sama je.. depends on what utk dpt yg elok tak tau.. luck maybe? senang: go back to the era where we scroll the window up and down.. takde rosak2.. kalo rosak pun, sistem tuas tingkap aje.. hehe.. jgn marah..
its the fact.. 
hello everyone.
I went to proton showroom to check out the car.It’s quite good actually.
1) The M-line seats is quite comfy>im thinking purchasing H-line
2) The new boot is very spacious and easy to close.no need to hentak the boot kuat2.:D
3) But the doors and doors handle im quite worried about it.Not very satisfying. Juz this time not so ‘tin milo’ anymore. (Hope proton can review this matter)
4) Airbags and GPS is bonus. Rasa lebih selamat.
Overall I think im gonna buy it. But the only question is the oil consumption. Can anybody share ???How much per month or week usually…
TQ ^_^
Cukuplah dengan Engine IAFM, Tak perlu guna CPS.. Persona lebih pada keluarga.. so takkan nak bawak family laju2 kot.. So far I have seen that Persona Elegance quite good Quality and smooth when driving (Manual Version), Fuel consumption low coz of RPM not to high when speed 140 KMh.
Good job Proton.
Dear Takuk Lama, Adakah Model Gen.2 / Persona ada tiru mana2 model kereta luar ke? Bukan Proton tak boleh nak pasang airbag sampai sepuluh pun, tapi mampukah kita nak beli kereta tempatan dengan harga yang mahal???? Pokok pangkal keselamatan adalah tanggungjawab pemandu.. kalau kereta ada berpuluh airbag tapi bawa macam pelesit dan tidak bertimbang rasa masih boleh selamat ke??? Jangan nak blame Proton atas perkara yang tak masuk akal.. Kita sebagai manusia boleh berfikir.. so fikirkanlah….
Nak airbag bnyak mane pun, kalo drive bgai org gila….pun mampus jugakan…bunyinya macam keta import semua bagus….ada gak yg x airbag…cukuplah komen proton kalo proton tak kluar keta…bagaimane ngan org yg tak berkemampuan spt.kite…oklah ada keta blh jln.sedap tak sedap pakai jelah….tp.so far proton boleh….jgn malu pakai proton banggalah dengan ape yg. kite miliki….hidup mesti bersyukur tak yah dengar kata org begitu begini…yakin pada diri….
Tak da istilah malu nak pakai kereta proton mahupun perodua. Walaupun tak segah kereta import tapi kita beli kereta ni berpuluh ribu duit melayang. Memiliki sebuah kereta walaupun kereta tempatan yang murah pun lebih baik dari naik basikal atau motosikal sebab tak kena hujan/ panas. Aku memandu kancil 660 (4speed m/t) tak pernah malu memandunya walaupun bodi dah lusuh dah.
Lagi satu saya percaya konsep kereta ini ada ‘Bernyawa’. Sebab kalau kita bangga dengan apa yang dimiliki maka ia akan ‘Berkhidmat’ dengan baik. Ini pengalaman aku.. masa aku memasang niat nak tukar kereta baru dan pergi ke showroom, tetiba je kereta aku ni meragam. Mungkin kereta aku ni berhantu kot… Ntahlah.. sebab tu aku tak tukar kancil aku ni dan berasa bangga memandunya…
old kancil
betul kater ko…
kete nie cam lebey kurang cam org gak…
dulu maser mak aku nak beli waja, kancil mak aku majuk seminggu wat hal…
pstue biler mak aku pujuk dier ckp leklok dan bersebab… dier terus ok…
smp skang berkhidmat tuk family aku…
dari abg, aku, kakak dan kew adik aku still ok…
cumer bese la kan… biler dah tue nie…
ader la sakit dier kan…
huhuhu
Sama bro…kancil bapak aku dh 10 thn..msh ok…selesa..kitorg pun x brniat nk jual kete tu…bangga…selesa…
dear Nizamaz, klu dh bwk mcm plesit 2 mmg le mmpus,nk watpe bwk mcm plesit,ni utk org2 yg bwk sderhana je ikut undang2.. lagi satu psl tiru2 model ni,mksudny jgn amek dari model sblm ni pas2 adjust2 sket2 jd model baru,jgn nnt proton amek design waja adjust sket2 pas2 launch jd kete BARU.. ni start dr model wira pas2 amek design depan jadi putra la satria la,xde idea ke..
I wonder what’s with the ‘tin milo’ perception.
Bro, go and take a look some others imported or continental cars, buy them if u can afford 1 and tell me whether that is also ‘tin milo’ or ‘tin vico’.
Go on, do a simple research, knock on them, press it, the same as what u did test on P1, apply the same to Toy, Hon, Ki, Hyun or even Merc, or buy an air ticket n fly to any other country which has Dod or Chrys n try do the same test on them.
Lemme know, just lemme know whether theirs is using some other ‘tin’…
missy says:
30/3/2010 at 1:41 pm
hello everyone.
I went to proton showroom to check out the car.It’s quite good actually.
1) The M-line seats is quite comfy>im thinking purchasing H-line
2) The new boot is very spacious and easy to close.no need to hentak the boot kuat2.:D
3) But the doors and doors handle im quite worried about it.Not very satisfying. Juz this time not so ‘tin milo’ anymore. (Hope proton can review this matter)
4) Airbags and GPS is bonus. Rasa lebih selamat.
Overall I think im gonna buy it. But the only question is the oil consumption. Can anybody share ???How much per month or week usually…
TQ ^_^
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Missy, if u drive in a city… better use small car.. but if u plan for a journey,picnic…better choose sedan car, in this case refer to persona..
The FC depends how u push the throttle.. if u maintain the speed at the right rpm..u can save more fuel..
but for the long term use..bigger car is better, u might realize it when u go for shopping..
Once the Green Technology come to our land..
Me no money oso, just walk only on foot…no money or oil consumption..green than other vehicle wat?
klu buat perdana elegance lg bagus.. alang2 nk nmpak mewah, baik gna perdana. persona dah byk versi.. dh jd cam wira plak..
bagus2…suke persona baru nie…lampu blakang ade gaya mcm mercedes kompressor…tp kecewa skit ngan lampu LED tue…9 lampu LED dsusun 2 baris je…bpak kedekut proton nie…tmbah la skit smpai 3 baris…baru lebih trang & sporty…tp lampu side mirror mmg gempak ar…lagi cantik dari myvi & exora…
Guys, do you think how much would i get trade in for my just 6 month old previous version person and buying the new persona elegance?? I been driving the medium Auto line for 6month now, and it much impressed with the new one.. sigh! Can any expert here tell would it possibily happens without need to top up much for getting the persona eligance??
I don’t think trade in is good option as your loan is just 6 months old. Banks may have bad ‘impression’ on you if you terminate your loan so soon.
i believe the elegance is more expensive, right? Depending on what you like about the facelift, you might as well buy that particular parts and install to your persona.
but, check about warranty first, you still have more than 4 years warranty left, so don’t jeopardize it. to be safe, you can ask proton service centre to replace the parts for you.
i don like dis car.. coz the model and component is so old fashion..
buy 1 time, 100 time sent to proton service center
i just receive my New Persona Elegance 4 days ago and everything looks perfect. BUT today, my dashboard start making flimsy noise…adoiiii..and everytime i make a right turn there is a weird sound coming the front bumper… sooo frustrated…
u just make up story. i never see any persona elegance on road even i’m live in shah alam. (except for those on lorries)..
Salam.sya pun nak komen sy baru beli Persona Eleganc M Line dan dah guna hampir sebulan lebih tapi dah banyak problem. Auto mirror belakang payah nak buka, alarm kerata pun tak bunyi…ekon pun tak sejuk tp pergi tunjuk kat proton baru ekon ok. Isk macam manalah dalam 10 thun akan datg…kalau tak tahan lama memag boikot Persona….GERAMMMM
Mine is Auto , the new AIFM engine is smooth, good shifting, excellent performance compared to the previous one. Aircond sound slightly better than previous model while moving. I’m still worried with proton power window , from my previous history starting from iswara, wira and waja the power window always cause me a problem, but its fixed by sending the proton service center during service. But again..flimsy..flimsy…flimsy…
Really the new IAFM engine is smooth, good shifting, excellent performance compared to the previous one? My sister drove the old persona… to me, it is a good car… the engine sometimes lag… even my kancil 850 Ezi is better in term of smoothness, good shfiting… what about the other owner?
dashboard kosong….
nothing…….design ok, not bad…
tpi persona elegance tu klu PROTON masukkan enjin 2.0 turbocharger,,,, bru ader class….lg stu, rim n tayar kecik…rim 18″ bru ok, mcm BMW tu….
wooo…tinggi costing plak tu bro…skrang yang ada nie pon proton dok kemut nak approve design yg gempak2, sbb sampai kat bab budget, haram semua kena potong…sbb costing..
tp aku penah tgk proton punya speedometer punya concept design, dia buat holographic shoot ke sekeping glass jer utk speedometer..ala-ala mcm oled screen…lawa gilerr…tp buat masa skrang nie budget nak buat memang tinggi ler..and ruper nyer anak bangsa kita punya concept car design dlm proton sebenarnye setanding dgn design mat saleh..cuma byk barrier dlm negara kita nie…nak2 politik…proton bole pergi maju lagi, tp politik la bro…kacau btol…
politik takde kena mengena dengan design kereta.
sebab utama ialah cost-cutting. Memang masa buat konsep kita boleh buat gila-gila futuristik tapi bila sampai management, semuanya ‘reject’ terutamanya untuk parts yang tak penting. Perkara ni memang biasa, even buat rumah pun ada 10-20 kali meeting antara arkitek – developer utk cut cost.
customers pulak kalau boleh nak sehabis murah, if possible diorang nak beli kereta takyah include radio, tayar & rim.. sebab derang fikir beli 2nd hand parts pastu pasang kat kereta baru lagi murah.
Proton bukan ditubuhkan utk buat kereta macam Ferrari. Kalau buat mcm Ferrari pun org akan bising sebab mahal sgt.
this new persons is so nice. the back light got abit same like benz C200 light.
PERSONA PRICE AT SAUDI = RM 33,934
Proton Gen2 = RM 32,256
Waja = RM 35,673
We are malaysian, why we need to pay more? Proton is ours…
consider they’re being sold at cost, something like ‘introduction’ price. just how many unit can be sold in a year there?
not only Proton, Toyota and Honda also doing the same thing there. Camry cost RM120k in Thai but after export to Saudi, it’s just RM80k there.
I believe, Saudi imported those cars just to be nice to their trade partners, including Malaysia and Thai.
ni budak sekolah punye mentaliti la ni… macam minyak gak..pegi compare dgn negara org..
pegi la beli keta lain kalau rasa mahal sgt keta malaysaia
dah betul kete malaysia mahal…bodoh la kalau kata kete malaysia ni murah!!!!!!!
3rd class mentality.. kesian
in Dubai, proton car they called “The Big Toy Car”
they even workship proton gen2 buat parti besar if wakil proton malaysia datang… especially in egypt… gen2 is road King there…
Yesterday hear that this Proton Persona Elegance got problemin QC , all will pending (me also buy it), and some was getting back to manufacturer Proton, is it?
it’s your mental problem ahso those drive dugong right?
pesona dah upgrade jd pesona elegance. apa kata perdana pun upgrade kan jd perdana compressor. mesti cun…………….
just got my new persona 4 days ago…
feel frustrated… after done 400km milage then the engine start semput2.. then cannot naik bukit.. after restart then engine then not semput2 lagi but the check engine indicator menyala je..
after that each time i drive my car, the sngine start keluar bunyi pelik…. ttssszzzttttt about 5second every 15 second.. was it IAFM sound or it is a problem at the engine??
haih kecewa kerete baru tp jadi mcm ni…
takkan xleh naik bukit langsung..tipu la ko nih..
kalo yer pon agak2 la tulis komen..huhuhuhu
tak leh nak buat apa, itu yg penting jangan skip 1000KM service… sbb nak diagnose prob2 yg baru…cuba hantar masa 1st service.. harap2 tak ada prob yg pelik2 lah..memang potong stim kalu jadi kat keter baru cam gini…
hmm betol potong stimla… xde faedah for me to cheat.. it is my new car and i feel very frustrated and hope someone can give me opinion what was going on with my new car…and now rase minyak turun dgn laju sgt compare with my 1st day i get the car…
Bro, u can send ur car directly to any nearest service center, i ask the service center, they said no need to wait until 1000 KM for u to make any report.
Ok bro thanks for the info.. today i already asked my brother to send my car to service centre.. hope everything will be fine soon
haih already sent to SC… mekanik sane kate sudah dibaiki but still problem… xde ape2 yang ok.. still kluar bunyi n minyak trun xlancar n meter minyak turun laju..
please somebody help me… arghhh
cuba hantar sekali lagi.. mana laa tau kan kot2 ada kena mengena dgn tune pada ECU dia ke. org kat SC tu pun mungkin blom familiar lg dgn new ECU 32-bit tu. Try pegi SC lg dan claim yg derg buat tu x ok. For sure nanti akan ada c/measure utk itu. New model even japanese model pn masa awal2 try market kt Japan pn ada masalah yg maker x jumpa masa development stage. Sampai ke customer baru jumpa. Lebih2 lagi berkenaan dengan engine. so cuba lg bro.
yup pg td hantar dkt deler blk mnta tlg die hantar kan dekat SC yang tepi highway KESAS.. tp tgh hr dealer call bgtaw org dkt SC kate xboleh dealer hantar kene owner sendiri.. haih btol ke proton ni sbb dealer i kate slme ni die hntar kerete customer boleh je… dealer kate org dkt SC kate tu polisi baru.. hmm ntahla xtaw… ni next week nak mnta tlg abg anta skali lagi kt SC seremban… kalau boleh nak g sendiri tp keje la plak… rmai org ckp masalah ECU… tp sy perasan bunyi berdesir tttsssssszzzz dri enjin tu akan bunyi kalau on air cond je…kalau tutup aircond ok plak.. n org kate tu sbnrnye bunyi aircond… tp the problem is sy boleh taw bile bunyi tu akan klua becoz sblm bunyi tu klua semasa drive i dpt rase seolah minyak x trun lancar menyebabkan rase tersengguk sedikit lps tu br akan diikuti bunyi tu… tersengguk then kluar bunyi tersengguk then klua bunyi.. kalau bw slow2 dlm bandar x perasan sgt tp kalau bw atas highway br perasan sbb atas highway kite tekan minyak je…so stiap kali minyak x trun lancar kite akan perasan n taw lps tu akan klua bunyi dr enjin.. slow je bunyi die kalau buka radio mmg x dgr pon….so dah tentu ade kaitan bunyi tu dgn minyak yg x trun lancar tu..n dah tentu bunyi tu bkn bunyi air cond semata2. kalau x dh tentu sy xkan taw bile bunyi tu akan klua..n sy xtaw ape kene mengene dgn air cond sbb time air cond on je die bunyi…
n kepada sesiapa yang plan nak bli, jgn terlalu amik kisah cerita sy becoz maybe hanya sy yg ade masalah mcmni… slain masalah ni, sy rase persona elegance ni sgt selese didlm n smsa drive n amik selekoh.. cume disbbkan problem ni, keselesaan tu terjejas sedikit… kalau x kerana bunyi tu, enjin dia mmg senyap je… sbb kalau sy x buka air cond, mmg x kua bunyi tu n mase tu rase mcm duk dalam gua sunyi je…. apapun sy tetap menyayangi kerete sy since this is my 1st car… hope kerete tu akan ok lps servis skali lgi…
i punya aircond ada juga bunyi ttssszzz bila ON, tp bila buka radio x brapa dgr sangat, so far minyak full tank (rm70) bole smpi dlm 350km (everyday PJ to Jln Duta), KL to Taiping dlm RM35 (bawak dlm 120 – 180 km/h).
So my persona problem pd area tayar kanan, bila buat right turn dia berbunyi kalau jalan tak rata..yg lain ok…lari 180km/h steady walaupun dashboard start bergegar skit…overall ok…memang selesa.
x lawa lah..
x nmpak elegance pun..
stakat tuka bumper dpn gen2 wat pe..
skirting x matching..
‘hidung’ pun mcm main tampal2 je..
tail lamp besar tp stakat pakai 9 LED nmpak ke malam2?
hadoi.. proton still lemah bab design..
just my opinion..
nak trade in dari persona SE ke Elegane… amacam
walau pun tak byk change tp bley la.. bbangga…kenapae x wat dr dulu lg
cadangan utk yg akan dtg, tukar design lampu depan, dah tak relevan design cam tu skrg. pasai pa.. org pun kitatengok depan dulu, tgk muka cantik ko tdk.
kalu blh jugak cuba cari formula baru yg dpt save petrol…mcmhonda city baru…saya pakai honda city baru…blk kelate melelui grik dr sg petani cuma 35 hinggit aja..berulang dari sg petani kl 40hinggggit. jimat gila..anak saya pakai persona SE dr sg petani ke KL 70 hinggit
walau bagaimana pun tahniah kpd proton kerana buat perubahan demi perubahan..mesti kena buat sebab saingan industri masa kini hebat nak bersaing dgn kereta luar negara spt korea dan jepun
anyhow congratulation tu proton..im proud of that
PROTON ni yg buat aku kempunan pakai keta impot ni,,,,interest tinggi wo….WTF!!!!!!!!!
cantik n the bomb ! tp tgh penin ni nk pilih Alza ker Persona…help me plse kenkawan…duit cuma ada RM 60 ribu ajerrr..ejas interest rendah ckit bleh kerr wahai kompeni keta tanahairku !
pilih persona atau alza… hurm, kenapa Alza yek? nak MPV ke? dari segi ruang, exora lagi luas, tapi maybe ko tak minat sebab besar sgt kot… kalau budget cap 60k, Persona Highline vs Alza EZ. Persona menang dari segi spec & accessories such as ABS with EBD, Airbags, leather seat, disc brakes dan macam-macam lagi.
aku risau nak bagi suggestion kat sini sebab taste masing2 tak sama. jangan la beli kereta lepas setakat baca review je, kalau beli komputer boleh la mcm tu. apa apa hal… pegi test drive sendiri, test drive free je bang, takde sapa paksa beli. lepas test 2-2 tu, tepuk dada tanya selera. penting woo test drive ni, takkan nak kluarkan 60k mcm tu je….
ari tu test juga alza, tp bila duduk di blah blakang rasa mcm sempit skit…compare to Avanza lebih skit ruang dia…tapi kalu Exora tu memang berbaloi lah space dia…nak MPV btol2 elok amik Exora or imported car yg lain..kalu nak sedan..persona lah gamak nyer..tp blakang 3 org ajer…tp itu lah tgk gak ngan budget nyer..
salam en.Marzuki…
Duit dh ada RM60,000.00 tu dh leh bayar cash untuk high-line dh en.Marzuki…
Tak perlu susah-susah hati. Saya yang patutnya susah hati. Duit x cukup lagi nak beli kereta.
yer btol ! kalau amik HLine puas hati..exterior, interior, safety sumer terbaik..cukup lengkap…
Persona Elegance cantik dan lebih powerful dari Vios…seriously
Lebih menarik…berbaloi dengan harganya jika nak dibandingkan dengan jenama lain problemnya tetap sama harga mahal pulaktu….proton the best
enjin persona ok , memang lasak, aku slalu belasah kete bapak aku best je rasa.
interior ok sume..
cuma kalu dia letak jam analog kt dashboard mcm gen2 nampak lagi meriah,
ada jual ke jam tu?
I got my H city last month, oh.. regret! regret! regret! If I only knew, I will buy this car.. My CIty got so many problem, the engine is so noisy, the bumper have weird sound when turning right, flimsy sound in the dashboard, whoah.. tenssion.. the suspension, the steering design is weird, I feel like inside a aquarium with transformers face.. (is this a logic comment? come on man, everybody can create a fake comment even thousand.. And I dont believe all ‘jza’ comment because he’s cheating..)
Ok guies…these are my comments on this Persona Elegant 1.6 Auto baseline. Frankly, It is much better car compare to Vios (all types) or even Honda City in term of handling and conering. You dun need to put the ‘UltraRacing’ bars to strengthening the car chasis as you should for Vios and Honda City. Believe me..The Lotus configuration claimed by proton is really worked on this model all right. The Persona chasis is very sturdy and the body is also very strong and very difficult to dent.
Engine wise I would say not that bad. Some of you might say persona output from 1.6 engine is incomparable with Vios 1.5 engine. Infact it is lower. Well you maybe right….but the truth is that the engine resemblance with the transmission is what matters. Have you try to drive Proton Elegent lately?. Try it and see…. what a marvelous piece of machine, driving comfort you could feel how good the acceleration is, braking, engine quietness and cabin quietness are all supered for a price of less 50K.
Dunt take my words….test drive yourself.
I have been driving Vios (2009) and City(2009) and I know.
My dear and sincere advice to all of you that looking for a new car 1.5 to 1.6, price range 45 to 55K, manual or auto…I would suggest this Proton Persona Elegant 2010. For sure, you won’t regret. But if you still want the ‘big name’ of TOYOTA and HONDA…try to get Altis 1.8 of Civic 1.8 instead….
Very good insight indeed.
safe minyak ker Proton Persona Elegant
tak ader ler save mcm honda or toyota..
standard jenis 1.6 lah minyak nyer… tgk jenis pemanduan, rebat lebeh, sedut lebeh, auto pun sedut lebeh juga…nak kata save sgt2 tak ada lah persona baru nie..
semuanya npk same…
ada la sikit perubahan,tp xmenarik sgt…
wekkkk…
oit diam r…
ko pakai kete ape hah???
ckp jep lebih…
AKu tak faham la orang2 yg agungkan keta Honda n toyota?kat America nu, cuba tengok…bukak blog diorang ke, paper diorang ke…diorang siap Say No for Toyota…Prius..totally diorang memg xkan beli..sum people kata nitemare..same goes to Honda,..tengok beratus ribu diorang tarik balik..??pe citer???seteruk2 proton, xder plak membawak pada accident..murah plak tu..ni beli je mahal..tp 3-4 tahun, pedal problem..pe hal??so…manufacture kat america dianggap paling best…so sesapa yg beli dari thailand version, jangan bangga sgt…ni silap2 haribulan lingkup toyota n honda..proton xpernah jadi mcm ni wei..pling teruk power window je beb..
yer..setuju !
Mcame u confident sangat p1 takde masalah yang langsung meragut nyawa?? P1 tu multibilion company.. MUNGKIN TAK P1 BAYAR MANGSA NAHAS KEPADA KELURGA MANGSA SUPAYA TIDAK MENGHEBOHKAN KEPADA MEDIA???? H & T tu datang drp Jepun yang mengilhamkan Total Quality Management yang turut diamalkan oleh negara Barat juga menhadapi masalah teknikal yang meragut nyawa!! Inikan pula P1… PASTI ADA MASALAH!!! Tapi telah dicover up… Toksah tipu la.. Filem seperti Green Zone tunjuk bagaimana Amerika cover up story bagaimana Iraq diceroboh.. P1 juga pasti buat cover up…..
aku pernah pakai Jazz 1.4 2006 sampai 2008. Part yg aku tukar under warranty
1. both front absorber – bunyi
2. steering arms. – bunyi gak…
3. weather rubber strip front passenger side and booth. – leaking
4. ATF to CVTF – major recall 2007.
5. radio – cannot read CD.
the main reason aku jual sebab handling fail.
Now with Neo2008 … no comment no complaint. sebab itu jugak aku dah tgk tgk mungkin nak ambik persona. kalau boleh P1 tolong laa masukkan CPS engine.
how about trying the aftermaket cps engines
wah lepas booking, kena tunggu lagi 1-2 bulan utk kreta ni… huhu..
paul, this car when have test drive review here? thanks.
VERY NICE. I LL BE GET ONCE. WEE HOOO….
So bad…still need waiting the Proton do the final QC only can get the car….i think still got 1-2 weeks…really can’t waiting on it…donno when can get it….
http://www.nccc.org.my/v2/index.php/aduan-pengguna/arkib-2009/134-vehicles/1252-complaints-proton-persona
dah terbukti bagus
proton Neo masuk join WRC…
why??
hahaha think about it…
think about it?? i just read the link by NCCC on 6/4/2010 at 11.42 am… Funny la… A lot of p1 salesman here.. my bro use neo la… 2008 model.. WRC 7**7… A lot of wiring problem… power window twice.. So if u telling me that p1 is better than other car, i think u are getting paid to said so…….
i love my waja CPS, best part when people that rides with me will feel that its a nice car!
agreed…
tq, u drive cps too hey?
If d 3 trims have airbag…dat means no diff in trims,its like saying pple with individual country passport and red i.c should have d same benefit with blue i.c(citizens)….wow! . its nt possible and dt dnt stop d death toll, am a foriegner and i think proton will better than so called import cars as time goes on..comparing proton to honda or toyota is bullshit,cos H and T encounter lot of problems too with fact of been in production for ages. within my 1 year in malaysia i av changed 3 cars(wira,kia and honda) and by next week am getting the facelift..i txt drive this car , its highly recommendable if you ask me.
I love malaysia and i love its effort and products..thereby its an ASSHOLE who will criticise proton instead of facing d reality dt driving manner in malaysia is nting to write home abt..
klo ade duit lbih bli kete luar…klo xde duit bli kete nasional…
klo xde duit tp tringin pkai kete luar bash la p1 gler2…
klo pkai kete luar dn trsgt puas hati bash la p1…
hahahah….
This is one decent car with affordable price. Just test drove the car last week, these are my comments:
- solid chasis, fairly firm ride and handling. The suspension is more to comfort side rather than sporty. However, one should never compare this to waja as I personally feel that waja is better in term of shock absorption and rigidity. On the other hand I think persona can be more rigid.
-fairly comfortable interior roominess. But the material used for upholstery is a bit towell-ish. The plastic used is acceptable but never compare this aspect to any other jap-made car even the entry level toyota or honda. The looks are so-so only.
-engine response is the biggest dissappointment, even though proton claims that the IAFM can manage to improve the torque dip, yet I still feel the sluggishness of the engine. Maybe this due to the auto-tranny. Don’t expect to much in this aspect, better go for the manual-tranny so that you can control rpm level to reach the agility of the campro engine. Sorry to say even an-auto MYVI 1.0 is better in term of stop-go situation. But this car will surely perform better on high-speed driving.
-i personally think that this car should be equipped with the better CPS engine and paired with manual-tranny, otherwise you will be surely dissappointed moreover if you have driven any jap-engine car. Proton should work on the auto-tranny….. It is the biggest weakness.
agreed….! proton must improve their auto tranny… manual tranny especially for CPS is ok…
actually persona is more rigid than waja because it used an improved platform from waja. em, for me the pickup is good, way better than myvi 1.0 n 1.3 n even vios 1.5. all the cars belonged to my family. it is just psychology effect u think myvi perform better
. already have video, this auto tranny of persona elegance manage to clock 0-100 between 10-11 scnd(the odometer stated 96km, so the engine still tight). i dun think any myvi auto or manual even can beat that time.
have drag my savvy manual stock(slower than persona) with myvi 1.3 manual stock(my abang angkat punya), savvy wins hand down even we change car.
nevertheless, myvi is a good car, but for me, if said better than persona elegance n somebody even said better than cps is only in dream. try to clock 0-100 or drag them side by side,then u know. dont just use ur but-o meter to judge the car.
anyway,that is ur personal opinion, n this is my personal opinion. and one more thing, never see any new jap cars use soft plastic,all hard plastic, just wondering how can judge the plastic quality just by use our eyes.
Y production of Elegance (chiffon green) so late, we have to Q around 2 months…?
high line or medium??i already wait since persona se which almost 4 months..as se has discontinued,i take the elegance high line spec..i don’t know why proton keep giving an excuse..they said production for high line is not much..that’s why they not release yet for the high line at showroom..stupid proton..i dont knw how long i’ve to waiting..just now i called my dealer they said proton has change their system,they cannot release the h line spec…keep giving an excuse..stupid..
I book M-Line (MT), last month. as Car Dealer (CD) said i will get it at the end of dis month (April). But i got the call today, he said need to wait another 2 month; mean on June. Reason is the number of production for Chiffon Green is less. That’s why i have to wait longer. (Don’t know either correct reason or not) ….
CD said either i have to wait till June; if i still insist for Chiffon Green OR i just take Genetic Silver if i want it end of this month…
God is there any option for me .. ??
hurm… i bought my waja directly from Proton at COE shah alam… only wait for 2 weeks. i would recommend you to buy directly from Proton Edar. similarly, send your car for servicing directly to Proton service centre, not to “proton authorised” workshops.
some problem actually caused by distributors. but some popular model like saga would require you to wait 4-6 months during initial launch. maybe persona is in similar case.
By the way .. congrats Bro. Shafiq .. bcos can tahan wait till 4 months.
I call to my salesman today, that he say now all the Persona Elegance auto got problem, need wait at this week or next week only can get the car. What we guess that may be all the auto Persona Elegance got problem at auto system. Dunno can get it at next week or not…..
hurmm… your statement is a bit fishy
the only different between elegance and older model system is 32bit ECU. and if I’m a salesman, I wouldn’t say that the product I’m selling have problem….
Bro… i don’t condem u but there are some salesman that tell differently.. reverse psychology or wat.. When i survey car (tat time option betwenn persona m line or myvi)… i went to proton ampang (infront ampang lrt but nowdays no more already) and perodua ampang waterfront… i told him tat my need is tat jimat minyak coz i travel jauh n i consider persona m line coz of safety coz i travel highway, klu kne hentam belaknag etc… Then tat salesman himself recomend me to take myvi SE coz it got both jimat minyak n ABS air bag etc.. i took his advise n test drive for both cars.. But i take myvi… bcoz of his honesty in cari makan, recomend yang betul2 utk kegunaan pelanggan, i recomend him to my fren tat would want to buy p1… at last, my brother n my ofis mate bought neo… U see, in some case there are salesman tat believe in positive atmosphere.. klu ader masalah cakap aderr masalah… nnt pelanggan sumpah kiter, rezeki tak berkat…
yeah, I understand that there are honest people out there.
but mostly would try to hide the problems. their income is depending on the sales they make. so, less sales = less commission.
so if it’s true, it’s great to know that proton salesman are honest bout their product, don’t be like toyota… after few people died then only recall millions of cars
may i know persona 1 Little minyak boleh jalan berapa KM??
roughly bout 10km of city driving for waja. 48litre = 470-500km.
maybe persona can go further if it’s lighter than waja
thks MoFaz
my fren owns Persona SE, i borrowed his car for 1 week and the FC was 14.07km per litre…
so far i think it is economic and can save our expenses on fuel…
thks for your info. bro.. i just booking this persona elegance by today.. c whether need to wait 3mths or not.. my salesman say 1 to 2 mths waiting time..
persona elegant ni boleh x pasang sistem ngv?
aku dh booking 1 persona elegant auto, salesman janji dpt kete minggu ni tp smlam aku call tanye saleman ni die bgtau kene tunggu lagi sebab proton ade problem teknikal utk production kereta persona auto, betol ker bro?
ya…my salesman also say because the auto system problem, lately also want wait until next week…..
if auto got problem ……where is my manual ??
I told my SA i’ll take any colour next week, can’t wait any longer for the chiffon sh*t.
I cadang nak ambil M Line Auto. Ok tak Dengar komen kat atas macam2 aje bunyinya…
untung bro, M Line skrang nie dah siap dgn full skriting, dulu tak dpt bro..
hi..
i just want to ask can i change b-line steering to the tahat has volume control and searcher..
tq…
hurm…. most probably will void warranty…
and if the steering has airbags, it gonna cost you alot to replace with another airbags system.
tq mofaz..forget about that..i just find the after market steering for persona and its persona se steering…thats why i feel like kalau tukar pun cun jgk ni..but hopefully can function lar..about the airbag can accept lar if cant function but how about volume and seacher control..my friend said cannot also b’coz difference harnest..is’t really true..
Adoi aku dah pening daaa….
baru je terpikir nak angkat persona ni, dah macam2 komplen aku tengok..
hish…
senang citer aku gi test drive sendiri laa next week..
haha.. tau pun. gi test sendiri then decide.
ada satu cara nak test… ko cuba bawak honda city atau vios, try la speeding skit, ambik corner laju (tapi jgn la sampai merempit plak)… tgk dashboard City & Vios tu, nampak mewah ke tak… lepas tu barulah ko try bawak persona ni.
knape ngan dashboard tu? dashboard persona tu tak ok ke?
takde problem pun dashboard persona tu. cuma ramai yg komplen dashboard tu nampak murah. so try la tgk city & vios tu.. nampak murah jugak. Persona ni berbaloi, lepas ko test drive mesti ko setuju
guys, got some info.. its not a major technical PROBLEM on Persona auto, PROTON just do some minor improvement just to ensure we wont have any issue regarding on engine due to 32-bit ECU. There are a lot of Persona auto in showroom and nobody complaint on engine performance during test drive except ‘”Last” san, and i dont really believe he is talking true on this.. Let us just being calm and enjoy waiting. I booked Persona H-line 1.6 AT today and the salesman tell me that i need to wait until next month. It’s really OK for me, as long as I’m still among the earlier owner on Persona ’10. The improvement made is benefit for us too as we dont have to hear any recall from Proton for this model.
“enjoy waiting?”
wow.. lets see how many people here enjoy to wait? good for you, you just book today..
i book for persona SE since january. paid the downpayment in february and the full amount since 1 march (gov loan) because the dealer told me the stock was available..
but after i paid, they suddenly asked me to wait for persona elegance (H-line)..
i started paying for my loan instalment last month and this 22nd April i will pay for second month..
i complain to icare, call, fax and email.. i even email to proton md (got the email from motortrader forum).. no respond yet.. cc the complain letter to the dealer yesterday..
and the only dealer respond was by sending me a memo from Sales GM, Sidik Ahmad to all sales outlet that all automatic variants for Persona E delivery are on hold.
The cars will be delivered from 19 April onwards after their engineers find the solution for the problem (hopefuly they will)..
i have been frustrated for 6 weeks and will continue for at least two more weeks (if i can get the car by 19 April)… and all this because the ignorances and failure of the dealer to tell me the truth.. they even promise me that i will get the car in one to two weeks when i called them on 5th April.. i hv to say that they know they were lying to me since the memo was dated 2 April.. only today they want to tell the truth by sending me the memo copy..
and that is the only respond i get.. no futher explaination..
thats how bad they treat a customer who already paid the full amount for the car..
max, wish u best of luck on your purchase and hope u realy enjoy waiting…
Hi Persona80,
I think the main problem of between Proton & the dealers (Proton Edar), is that there is no 2 ways communication between them and they don’t work as a team. By actual facts, Proton should update their dealers more often especially during this ‘peak’ duration when is the delivery dates for any of their new launch cars rather then keeping the customers in ‘suspense & in dilemma’ and what they need is to improve their ‘eco-system’ between factory,dealers to customers .
FYI, I am a Proton car owner for the past 19 years (right from Proton Saga 1.3 Magma engine to Proton 1.6 XLi, Proton Gen2 & new Proton Saga) , so far Proton is a trust worthy car with reliable engines eventhought some time they be be some ‘sound’ in the interior , overall all I am satify with these cars after had been a Proton owner for so many years.
thanx chan..
i dunt hv prob with the car.. i did my own study before i decided to choose persona.. based on my needs, car handling, price and value for money i believe persona is the best..
but no matter how good proton car is, if the attitude of sales and marketing people suck they will juz make customer run away..
proton need to relook at this.. give more training to the SA and please no more excuse on this ‘no two ways communication’. if proton cant handle the local dealers, then dunt bother to dream to be a global player..
and ur complaint centre too please.. it is the most ridiculous thing i ever heard when i called the icare line yesterday.. when i ask about my complain email to icare the previous day, the girl told me that i have to wait because only ONE person can access the email and i will get my respond when the person is back to office..
please proton, u need to look at this seriously..
Hi Chan,
I also agree that Proton car is very reliable on the engine. not much problem. I am still driving my 14 yrs old Iswara. Can you tell me how is the fuel consumption of the new Saga that you’re driving currently? I heard that is nearly RM0.20 / L. Planning to change to New Saga. But also considering Persona as well.
ermm sorry i x ambil hati kalau orang nak kate i tpu.. i ade bukti resit yang i pergi ke SC komplen masalah tu and if i ada masa i will upload it then u can see… it is not my intention to kondem proton i just ask for an opinion from someone that maybe can help me on this… and i xpenah nak melarang org utk bli proton dan mengatakn proton x bgs.. jika u tgk komen i, i xde kutuk proton i just ceritakan masalah i n i taw i antara segelintir buyer yang menghadapi masalah n bkn semua yang akan dapat kerete masalah mcm i…
Last san,
Sorry, I da salah anggap kat u.. maybe u are one of the earlier customer who recieved ur car before the ‘recall’ by PROTON after recieved feedback from u and other early customer. If u didnt feedback ur problem to SC, there might be thousands of us having the same problem. U saved us. Last san, arigato. Hopefully SC can find solution for ur problem.
I heard their supplier has capacity problem.
The best facelift, I think, is to allow owners to select the bodykit and features of the car they want to have. There is no such thing that one car fits all. More creative choices for consumers usually leads to more sales.
Persona elegance thus can be positioned as a family sedan or a sporty sedan.
I hope that Proton will introduce CTO (Custom to Order) cars in future for owners who want better sound proofing, better tinting, passenger airbags, Head Unit with integrated DVD/GPS, HID headlights, throttle management, better driver seat, car blackbox, etc. If Proton go in this direction, there will be more businesses generate for partners.. hence make Proton cars saleable for export.
At the end of the day, one makes car to sell. Having variants such as B-Line, M-Line and H-Line simply not enough these days.
You can order to their R3.
mcm mana nak calculate harga ni.. sng wat bajet.. aku nk bli gak..
Hi.. dreamvision
mcm nie….harga loan x rate % x tahun + loan / bulan (tahun/12)
contoh :- loan =rm49000 , rate =4 % , tahun = 9 thun @ 108 bulan
49000 x 4% x 9 +49000/108 = 617.04
pening la kepala ni?? baik lu org cakap betul2. bebaloi ke beli persona ni?
urgghhh….such a waste 4 buying persona 2009…if i noe bout this persona elegance, i think i could wait…so far i have no major prob with my persona juz the power window bcoz my niece always playing it…up n down…luv drving it for long distance. even for baseline i could reach 160km/h..it is affordable for family car..my family own perdana,waja,BLM n persona…i tought perdana is the widest car but im wrong.. persona is the widest so its comfortable for back passengers..dont compared persona with gen2..if u want sporty car so go for gen2..if for family car go for persona…the persona spec is compatible for family car…im a mechanical eng student so i noe how hard to ‘MAKE’ a car..so people dont juz noe to condemn..try buat la if bgus sgt…IM PROUD OF PROTON!!
salam semua…
i suka ciri2 yg ada pd persona elegance ni..
bg yg mementingkan keselamatn blh pilih yg ada 2 airbag.
dulu waja 1.6X yg harga lbh mhlpun cuma ada 1 air bag..
cuma nak tanya..dari gambar2 yg sy tgk, x jmpa lak perkataan ELEGANCE kat body kete ni..ada “PERSONA” je d boot blkgnya..
adakah sy terlepas pandang?atau memang betul takde..
klu dr pandangan blkg, lampunya memg ada beza dr persona lama..
cantik…
tahniah proton!
boleh tahan….baru cantek lampu belakang…kalau tak semua lampu belakang proton jenis macam kena panau…ada warna putih yg terlebih tanpa ada apa2 fungsi termasuk exora…geli aku tengok…
hahaha.. btoi..
dulu aku ada wira, lampu blkg dia pun ada part yang xde apa2 fungsi…. buat menyemak je
hi mofaz…………….somebody ask a question and your answer wasnt clear enof to me………….i paid cash for high-line and the sales guy told me point blank that i have to wait for 1month or probably more,bt am really anxious to ride this car,so he advice me to take base-line,which i did last week and few hours ago i became the first person around here in kepong to own face-lift,coz , i havent seen any other person drive it .so pls tell me if i can change the steering to that which have function buttons…(i dnt care abt airbags)plz i wnt to know where i can do this……
i’m really sorry about it, i don’t really know about persona ICE and steering system. You may need to ask your service centre or technician.
thnx alot,bt i need you to comment in english all the time..i like reading ur comments
kenari, viva, and alza come with long vertical rear lamp without much bulb or LED inside. you don’t feel geli kaa? why only see exora?
malaysia dah mampu hasilkan kereta sendiri pun sibuk nak pki kereta import kononya kereta malaysia x glomour..pk la bro kalu paki honda tahun tahun 90an lagi jalan raya malaysia yang menuju ke 2020 ni sesuai ke..asyik2 nak guna kreta import konon2 tahan lama..kereta proton 1st model pun tahan lama juga spare part pun xmahal..
ape ni dh orde sebulan lbih x smpi2…huh
to all..
can somebody tell me the details regarding to this matter…changing from b-line steering to persona steering that have control..exlude the airbag issue..don’t care..but can the control button function..
after booking lambat juga yer..
Biar lambat, asal produk berkualiti.. kang buat cepat2 tertinggal skru ke..naya..haha
wow
my opinion .. lighting design at the back and front lips very impressed .. and design of LED signal lights in side miror best in the future .. driving features already proven Persona-style cuisine Continental cars Proton is excellent ….
Well,after long consideration i placed my booking last week and waiting for my loan approve.Then will start counting for the delivery of the new car.Promised to be deliver in 4-6 weeks time upon loan approved. I booked my h-line. I just lov dis car and hope Proton don let me down!
I’m suggested Proton automobile designer do more research….
alah korang ni comment cam bebudaklaa..mana2 keta pon mst ada prob laaa….imagine klu city, vios n persona rates dia same jer..korang bli mana??????……………..so…tolong jawab pencinta kereta tempatan n pengagung kereta luar…
toyota or honda pun ada prob… tgk baru ni… brp byk kereta toyota ya kena tarik dari pasaran…
can anyone confirm..the rear light got 3 rows..top is the led..2nd row is signal n reverse light..the bottom want got light onot??seem there got bulb..but in picture like no light oso…
wondering is it the last row just for design purpose..haha
mana mana keleta dalam alam ini rear lamp must be have
1. brake
2. reverse
3.signal
4.safety lamp- itu hah bila kasi on lampu lepan hah lampu belakang mesti mau nyala
already booking..elegance auto
ala…belilah brgn buatan malaysia…..honda…toyota…bagus sangat ker…kete byk problem…byk kene tarik…tak tgk berita ker…
When my car can get it…? So bad…waiting until now still pending…say can get it at 1st week of April….but….
how long you’ve been waiting??
I book it at end of month March, that salesman told me that can get the car at month April 3-10, but until now still want waiting. Hear that H-line got problem on ECU, then will deliver on next week (After 19 April 2010)…..hope next week really can get it….
I buy persona about 60 K, If i buy vios about 85K. In the end I save 25K.
For 25k, I can buy LED TV, change phone every 3 months, DSLR …..etc etc,
just now i call my dealer.my dealer told me that the main reason proton delay on delivering persona high line cause they said persona has a little prob on ECU and proton already settle this prob..they will start delivered the h line to showroom next week.hope so..i’ve been waiting 4 my car since january..huhuhu..
laaa aku ingat aku la org yg paling lama booking tp xdapat2(aku booking lps raye ciner) lagi rupanya hang dok tunggu benda ni lagi lama drp aku….kesian kita kan
Sma la Bro… I dh booking pesona for my wife tpi kna tgu lama sngat. last I cancel booking. So frust… now I already buy Toyota Alphard. To proton dont let people waiting so long like musang berjangut.
Lepas ni apa pulak?
Persona Superb Edition?
Persona Mangkuk Edition?
Lps nie Waja R le…Persona facelft nie lg elok dr TOYOLta Vios facelift…lg dugong..lg sikit pbezaan drpd model lama..
mana la keta aku ni….bila nak kuar ni wei…
coba proton exora molah kedak tok..baruk kacak!
elok korang tunggu proton settlekan isu elegance dulu…dengarnya kena recall….problem besar….ade yg tak bole deliver..
SIGH….what a BAD News!My loan just approved today and happily waiting only….but now……I hope Proton can rectify the problem soon…..
prob persona tu bila nak setel
excited state dah ni….
Esok aku nak p order satu. Yehoooo.
baru je book elegance. ikut hati nak amik forte. apakan daya poket tak setuju.
antara kelemahan industri kereta kat Malaysia:
1. airbag bukan standard item. patutnya driver & passenger airbag dah boleh dah jadi standard item untuk semua model.
2. ABS/EBD pun dah patut jadi standard item untuk semua model.
3. semua model patutnya powered dengan fuel-efficient engine. enjin zaman tok kadok tak payah jual la kat Malaysia.
4. kalau boleh semua model kena ada immobilizer.
harapnya industri kereta boleh sama macam industri komputer. sentiasa up-to-date.
nk berak pon byr 30sen…letak airbag ade kos 0 sen ke bang? majoriti org msia x mau byr lebih utk airbag…wtpe collaborate ngn kampeni airbang kalu purchase kuantiti kecik = rege kurang diskaun.
ekonomi kne pandai la…awek nk baju baru atau boob job…mne ko pilih? rege sme….hahahah
My salesman just call me say that can get the car around 20-21 April 2010….hope can get it that 2 days….
Good luck Xiao Qiang,wish you could get your car soon. Me too wish to get it soonest
Hope Proton already rectified all the issue by now!!!
my friend was given that same date….maybe it will be true.
iye ka…need to call my sale laa….xbleh tahan maaa….
The more I look at it the more I like it.
nice looking but price is still high compare than sell at oversea.Hope govt reduced all the tax and one day I can bring proton in to my garrage.
nice..I book one
same with me jojo’s hehehe me pon da booking muahhh pesona
Nice car. Feel the passion during driving instead complaining. Y dont buy mercedez and BMW. The car and prize is good. ASS HOLES
sokong buatan malaysia,kereta proton ada klebihannya sndiri,bersesuaian dgn harga dn designnya,member aku yg pkai skyline gtr pun kata persona elegance handling mmg best
handing great? sure? not need to install the ultra racing bar? i already buy the persona elegance…but still not yet test drive before…hehe….
today is 19..i hope i have a good news from proton today..huhuhu..
What good news? Can get by tomorrow?
no la..already call my dealer..they said there is no prob for this persona anymore..proton (Tanjung Malim factory as persona is made frm tnjg malim) will start deliver the car begin today to the showroom..they said i will receive my car this week…too much pressure due of waiting 4 my car..hope i will receive it this week.
Shafiq,glad to hear that!Means i will get my new car soon too.But i am unable to contact my SA now as she holiday at oversea now only able to check when she back
Happy to hear that Proton already solved the problem!Yeah!
hopefully xdela problem kat elegance ni..
Yeah,hope so!
Already call my salegirl…..can get my elegance by 2-3 days….hahaha…kaki sudah gatal maaarrrr….
jgn caya sgt die ckp 2-3 hari tu..nk kne tunggu proton tanjung malim msk kan dlm dorgnya system..system yg di gunakan by dealer nk check ada ke x kereta nk anta kat showrrom dorg..klu da msk kne tng 2/3 hr tuk registration jpj tu sume..mks dlm system tu yg xtau..tng jela bro..klu die ckp da ada dlm system.br btul 2-3 hr kete akan dpt..
tu yg dia ckp la…aku pun tak caya sgt…tp dia bg tau yg dia dah masuk kat e-daftar…pastu tggu k1 then register…tak taulah btul tidak..mintak2 bleh dpt mggu ni coz aku book ngam2 lps launch……Amik spec mana bro? Aku amik ‘B’angang line je…hahaha
ko booking ngam2 lps launch..ak ni duk booking dr bln 1 x dpt2 lg..ko bygkan bpe byk dosa ak da mencarut2 kat proton ni..ak amik persona se dlu..pastu discontinued.kne la tng elegance ni..smp skang x dpt2 lg..since ak amik se b4 this,loan pn da approve..ak amik high line bro..murah skit dr se..so nnt ak dpt refund..
bro…aku br call salegirl aku td…keta aku kuar ptg ni atau besok…tggl nak amik roadtax je…lega bai….tp sblm ni hari2 aku call dia…naik rimas kot dia…hehehe…cuma tak kena carut la…aku rasa ko pya pun xlama lg kot…
tula..ak tel dealer ak die kuarkan ayat standard die plak..’Dalam masa terdekat dpt la’..bengang je ak..die lp agaknya da 4 bln ak tng kete ak..ape2 pn congrat la bro,dpt gak kete ko..ak nya je x dpt2 lg ni..huhuhu..
4 bulan?? uiiii….lama tu bro…klu aku dah kena bakar dah showroom tu…
dr bln 1 bro tunggu..huhuhu..management truk..
i think should get it at wednesday….
Yoh! Salesman just call me say that tomorrow morning already can get my car. But tomorrow i busy, so will get it by Wednesday after work. Yeah! Wanna faster can try it at Genting….
don’t push your new ‘wife’ too hard ya..
slow and steady… but most importantly, enjoyable…
no more than 100km/h until first lubricant change (1000km)
ni sape nyer teori jgn >100kmh b4 1000km? campro enjin high tech la…gne ECU…adaptable ECU…kalu ko main >100kmh…the engine x de power smpi ko mati….coz the ECU reads&records ur driving patterns. which is why la driver2 msia yg berlagak pandai bising” pesal kete ak lembap, ko nye laju padahal sme je stender…” Y?? coz awl2 u suda kasi manja itu enjin lorr…
tht ECU records ur driving patterns….ada paham? so dpt je kete sesah abis lentok speedometer…
if u go to the factory….kuar je line…testers/checkers terus bantai itu kereta maximum rpm at all gears ats roller…every single car….
but since u have taken his advice…dont get angry if ur car is slow & sucks up fuel @ high speed.
betul3…
aritue tgk salesman PE drive persona b-line unreg…
pecut bagai nak giler… more than 110km/j i think..
so moral x yah la beranagan x nak bawak lelaju biler dpt kete baru…
konon nak bg running in…
padahal salesman tue dah running outkan kete tue…
hahahahahaha….
but watever it is, INGATLAH ORG YG TERSAYANG…
MEMANDU DGN BERHEMAH…
bosan la !! gitu2 juga…. x da tg betul2 baru ke
haha today at elite highway , a vios is trying to by pass me….guess what? his back bumper took off and fly away…haha at 140km/h what a shame….this show our local product is better than that toyota product..only got at it name…but cheat people with it product…hahaha
wo,couldn’t believe dis happen to toyota car!
Hope our Elegance don faceofff at 140km
haha hopefully not..coz havent seen one happen before after 25 year of proton making a car..haha a bumper falling off while speeding…hahaa
my elegance @ 180km nothing faceoff…still steady..don’t worry..hahaha
hhahahah….jza thanks for confirming that
Sokongla barang buatan malaysia. Bagila peluang untuk Proton buat improvement. korang bayar 50 ribu takkan boleh dapat Luxury Car….Proton Persona Elegance memang bagus in term of driving. Yes the hadnling is good…i will vote for Proton…Congurates Proton for the good and excellent outcome in car industry
who ever never drive proton car with Lotus suspension setup will be WOW with the car handling characteristic.
I’m driving Neo for last 3++ year never complaining about the car at all. The only thing my wife complaining is too small. hehheh
Looking forward (hopefully laaaa) …Persona CPS emerge from proton stable.
xiao qiang,
what persona r u buying? is it the h-line? please2 write your feedback here after u get ur car!
what color?
i test drive m line just now, i must admit the enjoy is very2 smooth and very silent.. please leave you feedback here after u get ur car!
congrats btw.
and one more thing, i heard that persona does not have major problem like power windows, broken door handle, etc. is it true??
thanks
not having major problem?? i hpe u all can get good car with no major problem..i dah 19 hari pakai elegance mcm2 problem major n minor… just 1 thing yang positif, handling mmg mantap.. yang lain x boleh diterima… enjin n aircond problem..suck
Oh boy….no good no good!Bad comment frm the owner!This really dissapointed since dis is not the brand new car and yet still hav enjin & aircond problem!
What a disspointment!My heart is cool now while waiting for the car…………….Hav to pray hard now!!!
a friend working with proton told the window problem is been dealth ,including sound proof. thats why its heavier and gives a better sound when you open and close the door.
korang semua…kutuk nak rak…semua kereta proton…macam laa..kereta korang tu bagus sangat…tak mampu nak beli..kereta proton tu…macam2 lahh…bisingnyer…..padan laa..dengan harganyer..korang dulu kecik2 ..tu laa..kereta proton yang emakbapak korang beli dulu..kan?…jgn nak ego laa….terima hakikat korang semua nie duduk kat malaysia…..bukan nyer kat negara dia orang yang kereta nyer lebih sikit dari sini…
Bro,
Bleh explain kenapa persona kat arab saudi cuma RM 33K aje?
kat arab tu mana ada tax aka cukai. Duit gaji pun tak kena tax tau…
kalau gaji 5 k… 5 k laaa dlm bank kau setiap bulan.
toyota camry RM140K in Thai… but RM80K in Saudi…
jangan la pandai cari salah Proton / Gov je.. kaji dulu sebelum berlagak pandai ye..
sy dh pkai persona 19 hr got my persona 31march… anyone yg dh pkai elegance?? boleh kongsi pengalamn?? i punye pengalmn x syok nk kongsi br 2 hr lps 1st servis 1000km…. mcm2 problem
Nasib baik dh cancel booking pesona sal tgu lama sngt. Btul2 frust. Skrg dh ambik Toyota alphard. Hari ahad cuti kat genting mcm naik airbus A380.
amer what happen, can u describe more about ur problem… please… thanks
what type of persona, B,M,H?
thanks
Manual b-line
1)enjin semput
2)aircond problem
3)wiper xsmooth melekat dkt cermin sampai berbunyi ggroookkkk groookkkk
4)getah kat atas bumbung tercabut
(x semua kerete yg akan ade masalah mcm di atas… no need to worry)
1)handling mantap
2)bunyi enjin perlahan je dgr dr dlm kabin
3)speaker best
4)Lampu cantik
(semua akan dapat kelebihan di atas… need to happy)
Not really worry abt the accessories but more towards enjin & aircond even hav warranthy!If major problem then died la!!kena masuk hospital proton on & off!
But wait til i got mine and see how…..corss my finger now!
Saya punya P Elegance
Overall Auto B-Line yg aku punya spti berikut:-
1) Bunyi bila turn ke kanan (Dah ok lepas hantar ke SC)
Bunyi enjin dari dlm, almost tak dengar, bila speeding baru dgr bunyi tarik.
2) Dah hantar utk 1000km servis. (OK, tak ada apa2 masalah)
3) Tingkap Driver (Mula stuck minggu ke 4, tunggu next servis utk minta repair)
4) Brake rasa mcm tak cengkam sgt (nak refer masa next servis)
5) Penggunaan minyak kuat skit masa dpt kereta, lepas servis 1000km beransur jimat sedikit.
6) Enjin mantap, pickup ok, masa dpt keter memang teruja. Enjin dah sesah bwk 180km, handling steady, cornering steady, dashboard brgetar skit.
7) Speaker utk BLine ada pd bhg blakang jer…tak selesa skit sbb kena buka kuat utk org depan dgr, so org belakang komplen “korang pekak ke”.
9) Aircord kuat nak mampos,pasang paling low bole beku org depan, org belakang pon kata kuat rasa aircond ke blakang.
10) Wiper yg dapat ni jenis biasa (nasib baik dia nak bagi wiper, maklum la BLine) so tak heran kalau wiper dia rosak cepat, brapa ringgit jer, bole beli yg mahal skit later.
11) Getah dlm keter, buat masa nie yg tercabut hanya getah dibhg pintu..tp dah aku double tapi balik (asal pakai clip)
12) Puas hati giler sbb sblm nie aku pakai kereta CC bwh 1.6, tp lepas dpt yg nie aku boleh cucuk VIOS dan sebaya dgn nya selamba ajer dan kereta yg cocok aku dr belakang kali nie hanya kereta 2.0 ke atas shj.
13) Rasa org perhati bila bawak kete nie, sama seperti tag line nye..
Kalu nak beli, book ajer…kalau rasa duit tu byk tak tau nak guna, beli keter import ajer..ini ada aku baca Persona compare ngan Alphard.. giler aper !
bro,
aircond tu pasang paling low time siang ke mlm bro?? aku punye kalau mlm mmg sjuk tp kalau siang xsjuk la mmg kene kuatkan cket… bro punye elegance myk bape per 100km?? aku reset byk kali n purata dpt dlm 7.5L/100km xtawla ok ke x.. tang speaker tu walaupun aku punye 2 speaker kat blkg tp aku tetap puas ht bunyi die best sbb aku mmg naik sorg2 je kete tu… xde org nak bising2 kalau pasang kuat… huhuhu papepon aku rase paling best tang handling sgt mantap… wiper ape dorg letak eh mcm murah je sampai berbunyi….
masa siang pasang med @ 25c..pon dah ok dah…minyak keter overall aku isi full tank RM65-70 bole dapat dlm 370km..bawak dlm town. Speaker dia ok, puas hati, cuma aku bawak family, so wife dok blakang..depan aku sorang jer..kalu nak dgr music tu kadang2 kena bukak kuat skit utk smpi ke depan, keter lama aku depan blang ada speaker, so bukak pelahan skit, yg nie ada kat blakang jer, so bising skit area blakang…wiper tak tau lah jenis apa yg derang pasang, tp nanti ko tukar jer jenis elok skit, jgn beli kat kedai abang (Brothers), cari kedai ok skit, beli brand Bosch ker…
waduh! untung ya! org mlysia pnya mobil ciptaan sndri. di tpt gue, cma pki mobil dr luar jea. Itu pun bli pki tunei x bisa htng. Kpda kalian jgn cba2 kodem mobil sdri. Harus banga dong pya ciptaan sdri.
I planing to change my Iswara, when look proton car I am still worry about the quality, safety, engine performance after 3-5 years.
Saya fikir juga nak beri vios tetapi sebab import tax harga vios RM75K!!! beri dekat Labuan & Langkawi hanya RM56K. Ini buktikan sepatutnya dengan harga RM56K kami sudah boleh dapat kereta berkualit seperti Vios. Adakah Personal berkuality sama dengan Vios?
alaahhhh…part vendor pun kat malaysia gak….nak pki vios? dah survey dia pya schedule utk service? 40k km svc nanti terduduk ko bro….dkt rm2k tu….
ala.. kalau beli vios RM56k kat Lankawi, baru dapat yg basic…
kat mainland, RM59k boleh beli Persona Highline full spec… much better than Vios basic yang hapah pon takde, drive pon tak syokkk… H-Line kat langkawi pun much cheaper.
aku sudah pakai kereta ni last week(chiffon green) so far okay. pg mam la korang nak comment apa2 pun, patut nya korang support produk buatan orang kita ni. Go Proton. sapa2 yg nak share pngalaman,di alu2 kan. gps M line yg aku pakai ni mmg melekat kat cermin?
boleh cabut la.. tarik plastik tu.. mmg kuat dia melekat sbb plastic baru lg.. sengetkan plastik dan tarik..
Tomorrow after work that salesman will fetch me go take my car. Hope this Proton Persona Elegance will not have problem like air-con, power window engine…..But what i saw here are all say that the handling quite nice. Really hope im not install the Ultra Racing bar….stay tone when i get this new Persona Elegance….
no need to install Ultra Racing bar because the handling is very good…
but if you plan to take corner at much faster speed, then go install
try tomorrow 1st….
bukan kita tak support proton. Tapi pocket and bank passbook don support.
habis wang nanti nak maintain.
Hyundai/Kia/Daewoo/Datsun/Toyota/Honda dsb ambik masa bertahun2 utk perbaiki produk mereka – Proton baru 25 tahun [kira muda] – masalah Proton disebabkan oleh Vendor2 yg beri produk tidak berkualiti – typical la – sample tersangat bagus, tapi time actual production & delivery mcm hancussssss………..
sapakah vendor2 Proton itu?……
ya, dgn RnD malaysia yang nak bagi rakyat tau buat kete bukan senang
rakyat lak banyak demand lak
kalau la proton ada kolej sendiri
kalau proton buat accesori @ design yang dahsyat2 tu sbg opsyen buat pembeli
bleh tinggikan jualan tu….
yup..hazxkh aku rase aku pun sokong cadangna ko tu sebab kalau proton ade universiti sendiri for sure dorang boley cut cost on dorang punye rnd dorang and yg paling penting for sure design would be taste orang malaysia..huhuh for more ,dorang akan lahirkan engeneer2 yg berkualiti dan proton jugak akan ade pewaris utk engineer dorang haha….stakat ni yang ade pun proton city tu pun utk worker2 dorang duduk supaya senang nak pergi kerja…haha….tp tu lar patot mesti ade..
try proposed dekat DSZ maybe die boley usul kan benda ni..
bg aku la kn… tak wat kolej @ u sndri pun tak pe… sbb u kat negara kita dah bnyak…
pada pandangan aku la kn… ckup sekadar proton wat kerjasama dgn mana2 IPTA utk lahirkan engineer utk diaorg… bnyak negara maju wat mcm tu… kos pun leh kurang… cma tiap2 thn bg pruntukan kat IPTA tu utk diaorg develop smtg… klo nak snang wat 1 aliran kat IPT terpilih tu n aliran tu mmng d taja n d manage oleh proton… silibus proton yg ttap kn… diaorg graduate proton trus ikat kontrak…
yup…yg aku tau proton mmg ade buat colabrasi dengan IPT tempatan ni…sume design kereta proton yg skrg ni sume design anak tempatan..
petronas ada UTP
patut ada UTProton kan
kolej pun jadi lah
kos utk bina kolej tu 1 hal… pastu kos utk dptkn tenaga pengajar tu lg 1 hal… n yg pling pnting akriditasi la…. m’sia ni tak mcm negara china… kat sini perlukan akriditasi utk sahkan yg silibus yg IPT tawarkan tu valid ke tak… n utk dptkn akriditasi tu bkn nya thn ni buka thn ni dpt… ambik masa tau… silap2 first bacth dah grad bru kluar… yg pling naya klo akriditasi tak lepas… ape yg akn jd kat graduan2 tu??
my friend dpt scholarship dr proton….
proton mmg ader offer scholar
cant understand u folks…u’re looking for sumthing as if u can afford all kind of cars…u would like this and you would like that..but at the end of the day..cakap sj lebih…
bile kuar persona, itu xbagus..ini xbagus..then ckp sanggup byr lebih asal berkualiti..ni r3 lotus edition dah kuar pandai lak ckp mahal sgt…gosh…
*if u dun like it..jus shut the fuck up…
and bear in mind that there’s a different between criticism and nonsense..
tin milo baru.
elegance..not advantgarde yet..nice job even still with a lame styling(perhaps it’s a proton identity)..i’m always wondering when will proton make a production car with an in-dash gps or double DIN..that would be great…
1) Persona built by L2 Galvanized Steel, which Toyota Vios/ Honda City are not using this material. (Equvalent model BMW 3 Series) A material provide better safety during impact. It can stand for 11,000N front impact (if not mistaken).
2) Persona is a 1.6 litre car it cant compare with Toyota Vios & Honda City on fuel consumption.
3) Wheel base 2,600 mm; it give you less vibration.
4) Cerb Weight 1170kg (B-Line MT)/ 1195kg (B-Line AT)/ 1200kg (M-Line MT)/ 1225kg (M-Line AT)/ 1245 (H-Line AT), prove you better road holding & line change griping. Toyota Vios Cerb Weight 1020kg (J MT)/ 1040kg (J AT)/ 1050kg (E & G AT). Which are more better?
5) Persona give you 50 litre fuel tank capacity & Vios just only 42 litre. So which give you more distance before refuel.
6) In terms of safety: Body & structure 40%/ ABS EBD 20%/ Seatbelt 10%/ Airbag 15%/ The God (luck) 5%. So do you think that Airbag is important to protect your life when crash? An example: Princess Diana car crash, had been tested driving speed 83km/h during crash & the car with 24 Airbag, is she die?
*Built car safety 1st is important, then 2nd the powertrain, 3rd outlook.
*Built & develop a car cost 600m to 700m, but once launch people really “KUTUK” maximum only PROTON. Why not others brand? (because part of MALAYSIAN brand is very important, no matter how worst experience on non-Malaysia brand the mouth will automatic shut-up.
A automotive KING in the world recently also facing so bad DEFECT on their model, but why not you all go to create something bad about them? Why only people like “KUTUK” PROTON? Patriotism of Malaysian not much. Majority go for brand. Is it overseas brand so exclusive? If let say 1 day Malaysia financial drop till like Korea in 1997 & 1998, for sure Malaysia will not coming up again with your type of heart. I really don’t know when Malaysian can come up, think out of the box. Just give PROTON a try, support them. I can guarantee, you will not going to others brand even the selling price of overseas brand par with Proton.
Now a day PROTON was really change, it improve few hundred % compare to those day PROTON. Now a day PROTON is a car manufacturer 7 those day just an assembler. Now the PROTON built car has send for all source of test overseas in order to meet the international standard. You think that it easy to get endorse by international testing centre? (It not a children playground dear Malaysian).
The testing bring the car for 1.25 million kilometer test. It include climate test / crash test/ environmental test/ durability test/ wind tunnel (aerodynamic test) & etc. All this test is to provide a minimum defect car for the world and not only for Malaysian.
“EVERYONE THINKING TO CHANGE THE WORLD;
BUT NOBODY THINKING CHANGING HIMSELF”.
Be a person:
“KNOW MORE THEN OTHERS;
WORK MORE THEN OTHERS;
EXPECT LESS THEN OTHERS”.
Then we will growth further and successful as well the country will develop.
AGREE!!!
agree but compare same level-lah persona is not entry level car…
I had booked my Proton Elegance H-Line exactly 1 month ago, the salesman keeping mum on the delivery date, called him several times but never answer my calls (Loosing cool oledi! feel like just cancel the order and get a Naza Forte or Vios)..
Anyone can let me know what is the waiting period for this H-Line? Thanks.
Chan
I booked the SE on the 18th of Feb at Proton Edar Glenmarie. Shortly after, I was contacted by the salesman telling me that Proton has stopped production of the Persona SE and I would have to settle with the new Persona H-Line instead. I grudgingly conceded as I needed a car urgently. It has been two and a half months and I have still haven’t gotten it yet until today.
I made a verbal complaint last week regarding this issue. My initial complaint included:
1) Unmet promises – the salesman promised I would get my car by the end of February, subsequently postponing it until today.. almost May
2) Poor communication on Proton’s side – It is I who had to call the salesman for updates on the status of the car whilst it should’ve been the other way around
3) No concrete date on when Proton can deliver the car – Proton should be honest with customers regarding the delivery status so that we can make an informed choice when buying a car. If I knew I was getting it this late, I would’ve gone with an alternative option.
4) Terrible service – Not delivering on promises will obviously get you an irate customer, but your salesman should be trained on handling this more delicately. Instead, when I told him I would like to make a formal complaint, he even said “Go ahead, you can even e-mail my MD if you want”. He was rude and extremely unhelpful.
5) Would like to transfer this account from the current salesman
After making several complaints to different Proton representatives last week I’d expected things to get better. However, I was greatly disappointed. A few days later, I received a call from the same salesman telling me that the car was ready. I wondered why my account hasn’t been transferred to another salesman, but not wanting to delay the delivery of my car, I cooperated. I paid a down payment on Friday 23rd April 2010 with a promise that I should receive my car by the end of the following week, today Friday 30th April 2010.
Unfortunately, I received a call this morning with yet another undelivered promise. Proton’s administrative office haven’t processed the documents required which will result in a further delay in receiving my car. Better yet, they cannot tell me exactly when I will actually be receiving my car.
Today, I lodged a formal complaint (to the branch head, I-Care, FOMCA) following up the verbal one last week. I also CC-ed the email to all the local newspapers. My complaint included:
1) Why has there been no action taken on this salesman? And why is he still handling my account when I’ve been promised that it will be transferred to someone more reliable?
2) Why am I not getting my car on time? The administration was blamed for not processing this case. How will Proton take action on this?
3) The salesman has given wrong information regarding when I will get my car. When I paid the downpayment, he promised that I will get it by the end of the week. Now he’s playing a different tune claiming that it will take 7 working days to process. What is the company’s policy regarding this?
6) Why can’t anyone provide me a concrete date of the delivery of the car? I need to know so I can make the necessary arrangements to pick it up.
As distributors, Proton’s sales branches are the front-liners of company and should take extreme care in the kind of people they entrust their customers with. Failing this, the company will continue to suffer from bad press, negative public perception and poor branding – which I’m sure already has already and will continue to reflect on their sales and bottom line.
I am extremely unhappy with the level of service, or lackthereof, that Proton has been providing to me. As a first-time buyer, I can tell you that Proton has not made a good impression.
I suggest you make a similar complaint.
All I really hope is that the car is was worth the wait.
khairun nisa; sy sokong..adik sy pun da lm tgu kete ni kuar..bila kol salesman..alasan dia,yg high line punyer kuar lmbt skit..kalu sampai la ni tak dpt2…mmg lmbt byk dah ni..ms duk promote..iya2 kate leh dpt sbln plg lm..!bila dah smgt nk sokong kete tempatan…service pulak yg kureng..tul2 hampeh..
hello..saya dah booked persona m line chiffon green last week,my saleman cakap middle of next month dapat..tp dia suh pg sign document kat bank this week..mmg kena sign dukomen bank dulu ke walaupun kereta belum dapat n also my saleman nampak ‘samseng’..hahaha..xmesra alam..tkt kena tipu je
if i’m not mistaken;
1. test drive
2. pay booking (10%) & bank will check your credit or ‘affordability’ status
3. bank approve, ask for your signature for loan
4. proton proceed with your order and build your car.
Skrang nie banyak salesman suruh sign dokumen bank yg masih blank, dgn alasan nak senang kerja utk tak nak bg customer dia kuar ke bank utk sign agreement..tp kena tengok juga pada customer punya “affordability status”, lepas ke tidak loan tu..tp utk keselamatan tak digalakkan sign blank, kalau nak diikutkan bank act, memang dikira salah, bank yg kuarkan borang blank tu bole kena tindakan…Brani buat brani tanggung…kalau apa2 jadi..
Paul,
UPM has done a research for NGV tank and high performance NGV engine, i found it in upm’s website.. the NGV waja can get 104Nm torque..
maybe you can write a page about this automotive research, so your fans can comments..
Cipta Platform Tangki NGV Jimat Ruang dan Berkuasa Tinggi
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“Beliau berkata kuasa reka cipta itu pada setiap 2,500 rpm mencatatkan kelajuan 26.8 kw dan daya tujahan (tork) 104 Nm berbanding kuasa kenderaan NGV ubahsuai iaitu 19.89 kw dan 83.26 nm.”
http://webed.eng.upm.edu.my/develop/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=455&Itemid=200
can someone tell me either u have received ur car or not??for high line spec..
Waiting Period for Persona Elegance:
1) B-Line : 1 month
2) M-Line : 2 to 3 months
3) H-Line : 3 months
*All this also base on the individual outlet booking volume as well model breakdown, some maybe waiting period less then the guardline and some outlet maybe more. It also depend on the colour breakdown too…
Anyway I willing to assist all queiry, but the sales still back to that Sales Advisor. Below my contact:
Mobile: +6013 – 210 1013
Email: ikhwan_chong@mobileemail.vodafone.com.my
sorry if i missed out anything.. tried to read all the comments to see if u introduce urself before this but cant find it..
so, who actualy r u? quite suprised that u willing to assist all queiry and gave out ur phone contact..
if u r someone from proton, then i would suggest u to look at sales advisor training.. please train them properly so that they dunt give empty promises to customer..
i believe in proton car but i dunt believe those proton sales people anymore.. please fix this issue coz u urself can see here that many customer frustrated waiting for their elegance.. things get worst with SA empty promises and unanswered calls..
and please look into icare line too.. u can read my previous comment on this..
tqvm..
I will get my Proton Persona Elegance H-Line today after work….
which proton branch u buy ur car??
how long you’re waiting?
4 months..since waiting for my persona SE..then proton discontinued the SE..i have to wait for the elegance now..i call my dealer they said proton has change their system for booking..b4 this they give reason bout ECU which has a minor problem..n now they keep giving an excuse said proton has change their booking system..i dont knw what r the next reason they will give 2 me..stupid right??it give bad impression 2 me..for the next car i want buy,i’ll never buy the proton product..
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did u pay anything yet? im also same case with u.. book persona SE since january, downpayment on february and paid full amount (gov loan) on 1st march.. then suddenly they ask me to wait for elegance.. report to tribunal pengguna on 7 april, the dealer still keep giving excuses and ask to wait until 19 april.. but after 19 april keep quiet and dunt bother to inform me anything.. its lucky tribunal pengguna from kpdnkk realy pursue my case.. they went to proton edar hq yesterday to check and within 24hrs i got my car chassis number..
realy pissed off thinking what actualy my dealer did all this time since i book on january.. i would say they dont do anything except giving excuses to customers..
i’ve pay advance 4 1 month only..can u tell me how u report to the tribunal pengguna coz i also want 2 report it since my case same as u??u got ur chassis number but not ur car yet rite??when the dealer promise u will get d car??
u can go here to lodge the report online : http://e-aduan.kpdnkk.gov.my/
i got the chassis number.. now hv to wait for registration process before i can get the car..
adoyai.. u all got lucky la cos can change from old persona to the new elegance.. as for me, waiting for 2010 model.. waiting only 3 4 weeks only (depends where u get it cos demand on persona is very high and plus they need to export some of the model).. then, after 3 month, they say have new facelift for persona.. huh, consider your self lucky la..
please update here xiao qiang!!! we love to know ur feedbacks! what color is ur car?
PJ area…wait around 1 month…
have you try the handling? waja can take corner at above 150km/h on highway.
no need to install Ultra Racing right?
hehehe…
ak da book kete ni 1..
lantak la ape orang nk kate..
yg penting ak tau ak rakyat m’laysia
It true that PERSONA AT have a minor ECU problem & it just rectify on 12 April 2010. The plant start replace all the PERSONA AT ECU & should be able to distribute to the market soon. It an action to prevent the complain from the market cause of a minor defect, as what I mention before “Proton try very best to minimize the defect of every single unit car distribute to the end customers”. It in the right track of “Customers Satisfaction” on the car you buy as well built the confident level of the Malaysian.
Please be with us, all our value buyer.
Mr Ikhwan
What happen to those already got their car before 12 April?? will proton replace their ECU with new one or what?? before this i went to proton service HQ and i see a lot of car that need to be repaired or serviced but what i wonder why there is only few mechanic that repair those cars… i registered at 830am but my car only start to be checked at 230pm… i think proton need to improve their service otherwise customer will never stop complaining
Value for money.
CCFL side mirror ker? not bad
Yesterday just take my car, found that air-cond cannot use….so bad…today wanna go to repair it….
Sigh…Xiao Qiang sorry to hear that!Fully understand your feeling now….
Beside that everyting else is ok?
hmmm why ha?? just same like me air cond problem how sad… before take your car, have u checked it first???
Also got my long-awaited-car last nite. silver color. evrything seems ok. But on the way back from Bangi to Puchong (abt 30KM) got this rattling sounds at the back near the speaker. Not seriousla, but lama lama dgr a bit nuisance jgk..but then just turn on the radio la..this weekend will be driving to taiping to really test the performance. hope it won’t disappoint me.
amin,which spec did u bought??which area??coz my dealer tell me for those who bought high line spec KL area,there will be delay in delivering due 2 changing on booking system by proton..if u buy high line in KL area,mean that my dealer lie me..i want 2 know the truth.they keep giving an excuse..
En. Amer,
All PERSONA ELEGANCE AT delivered by before 01.04.2010 Proton Edar CMC will arrange to replace to NEW ECU and for those receive after 02.04.2010 ECU had already replace during the team from plant at respective service centre from 12.04.2010 and 16.04.2010.
Thanks on the recommendation on service; As what I knowledge that, Edar was on the way enhance the service level and you will find more improvement after the enhancement.
The Proton car sales increase since year 2008, for sure those peak area service centre will pack of customers. Anyway, it a good sight for Malaysian, because PROTON BOLEH!!!
Just give PROTON a bit more time, I strongly believe that will be overall FRESH & NEW level of image not long.
This ECU problem only involve with AT and not MT right? as a malaysian i also hope that proton one day will be known as one of the top car manufacturer in the world but for sure it need lot of efforts
where is this ECU unit located? in the engine, under driver seat, inside dashboard? what this faulty ECU impact if owner did not send their car to SC for new replacement? what owner expected to see after the new replacement?
Just back from Kepong Menjalara workshop….that mechanical say wanna take 1-2 days or maximum 3 days to solve the air-cond problem. Hopefully can repair back….im the person that not lucky….sign….
im sorry to hear that, wahhhhh i might reconsider many times whether to buy this car or not… ermmmm
Xiao Qiang,not too worry about the problem.I am sure that this is noting new to proton to fix the aircond problem. I am sure there will fix ontime for u…
If this is nothing new to proton to fix the aircon problem, then why they never get it fix during the production? Pity the new owner of Persona….i have booked M-line AT since 18Mar. My proton sale rep keeping apologies for the on going delay…sigh.. Really hope that my persona does not comes with all common problems….
TT,i guess dis is purely on luck gua!I also booked H-Line and waiting…..seing so many problem or comment my heart actually cold as well…. just cross the finger and pray hard!
Not Bad . . .looks like Lexus IS250 . . . .
Persona yang aku pakai memang best (top 50 buyer), kehendak aku yang tak best. Masa aku beli lambang dia still rimau biru. Reverse sensor ikhsan waja, sebab tak cat pun (Hitam lagi kat tengah). Bila ikut kehendak, aku cat lubang hitam tu, terus sensor jadi buta. Biar buta tapi nak best. Sama la streering, ada air bag, nak sport aku tukar streering, hampeh, air beg aku buang. Radio ok dah, tapi tak puas hati tukar… yang asal kedai aksesori ambik RM150 saja, tu pun aku bangga. Itu belum masuk kusyen aku balut semula taruk ori kulit, lampu depan tukar, belakang pakai LED, cat pun baru dari silver irredesent white kepada pearl white. Lepas tu kluar Gen2 Facelift, aku tukar bumper depan, yang lama simpan untuk kucing tido. Tukar rim.
Namun semua yang asal dari proton tu best sebenarnya, saja orang dengki, sama la sekarang ni bini aku dengki sebab kerana kena bayar hutang. dia jugak pakai persona baru keluar tadi.
Guys & girls,
Proton during 1985 till 1999 just only a car assembler.
Started year 2000, Proton began manufacture car and the very beginning Waja.
Since that day, Proton just like a new born baby. Then Gen.2 at 2004, just like a baby started try to stand up which develop a very own Malaysian 1st hatchback car. It just due to power window and door handle problem, people created hell of complain because Proton was a biggest market player, 10% industry standard of defect it means almost 20 over thousand car got defect. So you all can imagine how many amang yours’ friends and relative having a Proton car as well complain?
Manufacturer car also same as human, never end mistake because we are not GOD. Guys & girls; caan you tell me what car manufacturer in the world can give you guarantee on their car produce? I can no one of them. Even you bought a car cost RM1million they also provide you warranty. Why? Themself also can’t guarantee to produce a high cost car no defect.
Savvy in the year 2006, defect reduce but costing of the car was high. Do you guys know why? Because:
1. Testing on power window in order to provide 3 years warranty on it (tested 70,000 circle = equvalent to 10 years usage). Since that day till now you can hardly come accross power window problem from yours’ friends & relatives.
2. L2 & L3 galvanized steel began use on majorities of Proton own model. Another why? In order to provide a safer car for Malaysian due to accident volume increase and in provide better collusion resistant, so that you can’t really seen a Proton own model happen rusty. L2 galvanized steel was only use for BMW 3 series and L3 galvanized steel at BMW 5 series and or Jaguar. Both type of materials also provide better impact force in order to prevent accident happen which front impact can stand 14,000N/m (110,000kg/m) & 17,000N/m (170,000kg/m) at 90km/h and side impact can stand 11,000N/m & 14,000N/m.
3. Honey comp breaklight, to provide brighter & sharper vision for back coming car day & night in order to prevent accident happen. Do you all realize after this type of breaklight used by Proton, majorities of Malaysia traffic light been converted to this type of light too?
4. The “Quickshift 5″ gearbox installed at SAVVY AMT to provide easy & comfort driving at rural/ urban area. It a manual tranmission gearbox with additional robotic assist us for gear changing through the TCU (Tranmission Control Unit/ Module). It still have clutch plate & all monual gearbox accessories. 5 speed manual as well automatic. That why during gear change you will feel like a manual tranmission car not as same as automatic gear change.
5. It been awarded by “Malaysia Book Of Record” the most fuel efficient car in Malaysia and it been tested by proffesional expertise appointed by “Malaysia Book Of Record”. The test car was not a brand new car, it had been use with minimum mileage not less then 5,000 km.
Proton was the only developing country manufacture car.
Proton have a most advance robotic plant in Asia.
Proton plant was the world top advance plant.
Proton also the only muslim country manufacturer car out of 11 nation.
Proton also build the plant by cash no hutang.
Proton Tanjung Malim can produce 1,000,000 units of car per years.
Proton Tanjung Malim 1 line can produce 5 different model in a roll.
Proton Tanjung Malim also can spray paint 5 different model with 5 different colour in 1 roll.
I really proud to be Malaysian.
(Proton Tanjung Malim also can spray paint 5 different model with 5 different colour in 1 roll)
then what the hell those SA keep telling people can get silver colour faster but if bronze or green hv to wait longer?
yup.. its good to hear that proton plant have all those capacities to do this and that.. but its useless if proton cant utilise it to give customer what they want.. what for u can spray 5 different colour in a roll but u cant cater what colour the customer want?
proton spray ikut suka or proton tengok kaler apa yg customer nak?
stok cat x cukup ker?
Proud to be personarian..
I also know that Proton was on the track to improve their Sales Satisfaction (SSI) and Customers Satisfaction (CSI). Restructuring sales network as well service and they roll out a lot training to their network in order to build a profesional sales & service teams to serve the public in terms of educate/ assist/ service the Proton car buyers.
They planned to be Top 5 in SSI & CSI within 3 years, it due at 2012 & Top 3 within 5 years at 2014.
The production side also roll out a series of production module to provide the minimum defect car to you guys & girls out the market locally as well worldwide.
Please be passion with Proton dear, you will find the improvement day by day not long.
Somebody talk about facelift like Honda City. Please be inform that before Honda City latest version launch, the previous also been facelift twice by changing of head lamp/ tail light as well side skirt. The latest version City was a NEW CITY.
(Please check the history of City then make noise guys)
Recently Toyota Vios also did their facelift by changing the front grille/ head lamp/ tail light & some interior by increasing of price. Why don’t you go there to make hell of noise???
I strongly agreed that you better shift your whole family to stay at Japan more better.
We need you guys out there to provide ideas and information in order to improve our own products, not “KUTUK” sampai rapat k.
I really feel that 1 thing, we are 1 class citizen of Malaysia but Malaysia products it just like lower then 3rd class from the way some of you “KUTUK”???
i really can’t understand what kind of Malaysian some of you are???
Kebanyakan dari kami bukan la mengutuk tetapi memberi kritik.. di ulangi KEBANYAKAN bukan semua… mmg diakui sesetgh org kutuk melampau2 dan kdg2 tidak boleh diterima… tetapi kebanyakan yang memberi kritik adalah kritik yg positif dan mereka adalah pengguna proton sendiri… dan diketahui segala kritikan telah lama diberi tetapi kenapa sampai sekarang still lagi byk problem yang dihadapi terutama problem yang berulang2…. tidak gune kalau mengatakan PROTON hebat mempunyai kilang yang bagusla terbesarla tetapi produk yang dihasilkan kurang berkualiti..
sebagai pelanggan apa yang kami mahu adalah pulangan yang setimpal setelah duit yang berpuluh ribu telah diberikan kepada proton… kami tidak mahu dgr apa2 kehebatan proton yang mempunyai kilang yang hebat dan seumpama itu apa yang kami mahu proton realisasikan apa yang dikatakan itu.. cakap byk tapi kalau hasil xde pun xberguna juga…
sebagai rakyat malaysia siapa yang tidak berbangga kita mempunyai kilang membuat kerete sendiri tetapi biarlah bende itu adalah sesuatu yang layak untuk dibanggakan… mmg semua pembuat kereta di dunia tidak boleh memberi jaminan kereta mereka sempurna dan bukanla kami mengharapkan semua kereta yang dihasilkan sempurna… tetapi AT LEAST biarla kerosakan itu berada dalam tahap minima… mmg proton mengatakan proton telah banyak improvement tetapi sbg pengguna kami merasakan sendiri segala kekurangan yang terdapat dalam proton.. kalau org kate TOYOTA pun masalah beribu2 ditarik blk tetapi kenapa proton tidak buat mcmtu power window dah byk masalah nape x tarik semua kerete n tukar yang bru?? toyota buat mcmtu sbb toyota jenama yg terkenal dan ade org bile org ckp proton xelok org tersebut akan compare toyota pon masalah tetapi bezenya toyota menarik blk semua kerete meerka kerana ingin menjaga nama mereka tetapi adakah proton buat mcmtu?
saya percaya proton mempunyai masa depan yang cerah dan dapat bersaing dengan pembuat kereta yang lain tetapi proton memerlukan perubahan dan pengorbanan yang besar… anggapla semua kritikan yang diberi untuk memajukan proton.. yang paling penting proton perlu ubah adalah mentaliti perkerja proton sendiri… saya dapat lihat sendiri bagaimana pengurusan dan pekerja mereka bekerja ketika menghantar servis… sikap ini yang perlu diubah… jika kita membeli peralatan dan mempunyai kilang yang canggih berharga berbilion2 sekalipon tetapi perkerja2 kita tidak mempunyai kualiti, sudah tentu kita tidak dapat menfaatkan segala kecanggihan yang dimiliki seterusnya menghasilkan produk berkualiti.
I totally agreed with you.
setuju tp x berapa sgt la sbb
kalo tarik semua abes terjejas 1malaysia nih..
tingkap jer … x melibatkan kematian macam yang berlaku ka toyota tu..
proton pun ada tarik juga … kes savvy dlu2…
Proton hanya ada kilang PemasangaN yang terbaik tp vendor tempatan yang bekalkan alat-2 mech tu yang bermasalah.
the problem with proton is it vendor and QC…
Setuju 100%. Spare part jadi mahal pun sebab vendor kasi up banyak sangat.
just now got back from having my dinner , a viva is spinning and crash toward a tree and end up in a Longkang..just because to take a small lap of a highway? that car was a total lost..but the driver is safe and have minor injury.. maybe this viva need some lotus handling haha
Talking about Viva. My Accord have been hit from behind by that coffin at traffic light. Dont know what problem… car or human??? if car maybe SAP problem or handling problem.. Fuhhh…
Yesterday take my car to Kepong (Taman Bukit Makuri) Proton workshop to repair that air-cond problem when lunch time. Dun know today or Saturday can get back or not…? Really worry about it….
Did you call to the SC get the latest update at least?
support persona elegance,love it so much.can understand every new car won’t be 100% perfect no problem.I booked a elegance Mline auto on 5th april.loan matter settle,still waiting for the car.so nervous.1st car purchase.hopefully can get it before end of this month…………..
Neil,same situation here!Just pray hard
also same here..suppose to get on 23/4 but suddenly my sa said it have been delayed due to delivery issue..hopefully can get it next week..
Xiao Qiang, really wish your car is fix by the time given.Good luck!
Thanks! Hope so….
Xiao Qiang, is it only aircond problem? no other is it? it is so pity that once get the car, then have problem already. why don’t you go to http://www.nccc.org.my to make a sue to proton. we are consumer and we have the right to do it.
hebatnye persona facelift
Yesterday around 4pm that workshop people call me go to pick up my Persona. So far until now nothing happen again with the air-cond. Hope all the thing already settle….
dun worry,bro.everything gonna be smooth.think of the bad things then all bad things will follow u
Xiao Qiang, glad to hear that your problem solved.have a good weekend with the new car!
hi..
i just saw trailer carrying persona elegance at proton sc near bj roundabout..hopefully that’s our car..hehehe..
izit????could it be manual transmission 1?
i wait long enough for my elegance Mline auto
dah beli 1,kira ok la dr yg lain yg 1klas dngn nya
I notice that now all model without window tint so i ask my SA he sain high line buyer will get a RM 300 voucher for window tinting, i said RM300 not enought to tint the whole car, he said the high line Elegance punya cermin (gelap sikit) banding dgn model lain, i just want to know is it true, anyone notice High Line window are different than others?
Yes..the window is darker than previous persona…
Yes for H-line it got tinted already… for m-line and b-line dont have. I notice when i went for test drive using h-line the window already got tinted… my sa told me only H-line got tinted.
test drive got H-line which branch you go ?
at Shah Alam near uitm chiffon green one AT.. i also try auto cruise(only h-line have) during test drive… kinda interesting… huhuhu.. but mine just b-line dont have auto cruise ;(
agak-agak area kemaman bila dapat erk…..boring dah tunggu…
ari tu ms g tempah pesona kt kemaman.. salegirl tu kt da ade org yg dpt persona Hline.. sbln lbh je die tggu… ko da brape lame da??
Kpd semua..
aku plan nk bli persona E Mline soon tp bl dgr korg complaint sal aircond and enjin aku jd was2 la plak…kpd sape yg dh pkai aku nk feedback dr korg…please!!!!
After the air-cond problem solve, i found that still got another problem come out. When i switch off the engine and also the air-cond switch, after around 5 sec., got the sound from the engine part. So i try open up and check it, found that got 1 fan was funtions….may i know what happen for my car? Is it a problem againt?
Xiao Qiang, i heard tis frm a SA before. The fan will continue for another 1 or 2 min after the engine switch off and the reason behind is it will cooling down the engine temporature. You may confirm with Proton again for this.Hope everyting else in your car is ok…..
Xiao Qiang,
May I know where u bought your PERSONA?
I dont’t think the Sales Advisor give u clear explaination on the radiotor fan.
Let me explain it to u as below:
1) When u turn off your car/ engine, if the radiotor fan still function it a normal sign. Because it help to cooling down the engine if the heat detector detected your engine hot. It to maintain the life time of the engine. After the engine cooling down, the radiotor fan will automatic switch off.
2) If u go through all type of vehicle “Owner’s Operation Manual” from good old day till now, It did mention that whenever we travel more then 30 minute and we want to turn off the engine it must let the car stop for 10 minute before we turn off the engine. It to let all the engine oil drain into the oil pan. But throughout the world, majorities driver once they reach their destination, they will switch off the engine on-the-spot. It will indirectly shorten the engine life time.
3) If the weather hot, within a short destant it also will automatic on the radiotor fan till the tempreture of the engine reduce and switching off by itself.
Don’t worry Xiao Qiang. It the design by the engineer to protect your engine life-time and it only applicable on CAMPRO engine.
TQ
so means that i have to reach at office 10 minute early.Hhmmm….
Is it true Mr khairul?? maybe i need to check it again after switch off my car engine because so far i did not notice it..
Agree with you but just to make more clear trun off engin but not taking out the care key, the key still in ACC. on position you will notice your radiator fan still running while engine is hot this function is applicable to all moder car by using electric radiator fan my uncle Iswara also like that my sis Myvi as well my brother Hyundai Accent.
Sure? I will check the car that the fan will stop when engine cooling down. If still continue be like that i will call up to Proton. But any way, thanks Khairul Ikhwan Chong.
sy nak book gak Persona..tapi nak tunggu 3 bulan lagi until first batch user ni dah complain semua masalah awal2, so bila Proton dah fixed problem.. ok la time tu nak beli.. hehe
Bila dah 3 bulan nanti Yeop nak beli , dah keluar Waja replacemen baru lepas tu lagi 3 bulan utk org comment Waja replacemen baru, dah tu Gen2 baru datang lagi…….sampai bila nak tunggu ni.
ye x ye jgk!!! ah camtu pasal keserbakurangan proton dalam menghasilkan product yg berkualiti = kepuasan pengguna, x salah i pakai jenama lain,kan? bkn i tidak menghayati semangat 1Malaysia / sokong barangn tempatan, but Proton (u knw who) had been making a fool out of all Malaysian all along. Cheerio !!!
ni review aku buat khas la utk korang sume. jgn komplen dulu. bace dulu.
aku baru dpt persona aku 3 ari lpas. aku rs korang pun tggu review nk book ke tak keta ni.bagi aku:
1)enjin best. bile dah gear 5 snang2 je korang memotong tanpa shift (kes aku manual)
2)design cantik.kalo suke bikin, aku suggest tukar sport rim n tinted je. rupe dia lbh sesuai bikin vip dr bikin sport.
3)interior kemas.bunyi mmg syp.bunyi tayar silvestone tu je yg bgaung sikit. overall bunyi mmg puas ati. radio pun best. ICE yg kna dgn harga. cume kalo nk tukar pun, tukar speaker je. radio blaupunkt tu ok.ade rds.
4) lampu depan best.smoked.led blakang tu mmg cerah.cuma kalo besor sikit lagi nmpak.kecik2 camtu pun,bagi aku tetap cantik gak.
5)minyak..not bad utk 1.6.bab ni aku takleh komen byk sgt sbb keta masih baru lagi.kalo dah lama misti up ckt consumption kan..so far 1000km, myk dlm rm140. tu myk yg aku dah isi utk keta ni shingga servis ptama 1000km. kiranya lbh kurang 12.8km seliter myk.dgn aircond spnjg masa.
6)bau asap pun mnunjukkan pmbakaran sempurna.bau cam honda city pak aku.bau colok pun ada haha..
1 je aku rase kurang best.kalo la klac aku lembut sikit..hahahaha..kalo dlm jem,leh tahan gak la sengal kaki..
bagi aku la kan..berbaloi keta ni dgn harga yg proton letak.sape tak suke proton, jgn kutuk kerna korang tak test pun lg keta ni.lgpun jgn compare dgn vios n city yg mhl 20-30k dr ni.toyota n honda ni dr tahun bila depa buat keta.utk kita yg baru ni, mmg 1 improvement yg baik.tahniah proton.
mmg ade kekurangan dr segi aftersale n QA kdg2.mayb proton kna train btol2 pkerja depa supaya lbh terlatih..attitude kna ada.jgn mls2,kenderaan kbanggaan rakyat ni..
aku syorkan la sape2 nk beli,sile la beli..takyah nk tggu dah..kepada pakcik2 yang nak beli tu,sesuai sgt la.tak sakit pinggang.bangku dia sedap.
oklah.aku nk blk keje.salam..
hi all..
good news..just get my persona couple hours ago..everything so far so good..and i can’t complaint about performance yet..but one thing that i can say is..the acceleration is good..but one thing bug me is when i start my car the volume of my audio just go 20+..it’s normal..or ???
Ha it must be the Edar guy rock’n roll in your car just before you collect it, check and see got any CD in side, my be MJ album ha ha lol…..
u need to setup the radio.set the ‘on volume’ to what level u want e.g 15.then its ok oredi..
u can set it using ‘on volume’ or set the volume = last volume before you off your radio.. try to godek godek….
Guys & girls;
SETTING RADIO
* PRESS “MENU” button
* “UP/ DOWN” arrow selection of function
* “RIGHT” arrow for Select
* “LEFT” arrow for Set/ Back
STEP-BY-STEP: Press “MENU” button – “UP/ DOWN” to locate “VOLUME” – “RIGHT” arrow to Select – “UP/ DOWN” locate “ON VOLUME” – “RIGHT” arrow to Select – “UP/ DOWN” to Select “LAST VOLUME ON” – “TUNE” to your prefer volume by “VOLUME TUNER” – “RIGHT” arrow to slect the volume you prefer – “LEFT” arrow to back to “HOME SCREEN” – THE END
** “MENU” then “UP/ DOWN” you can select various function like Clock Setting/ Audio Setting/ Volume Setting/ Dimmer & etc.
!!! Any additional Amp/ Pre-Amp added on your NEW PERSONA ELEGANCE, please ensure the accessories shop installer never cut and/ or remove the original wire. It because the original wire hardness come with manufacturer warranty, if they do so the portion of wire hardness warranty will VOID !!!
Thanks & regards,
huhu…ok2..thanks guys..
sudah lah..xpayan nak bangga dengan lotus lah, lotus tuh company org putih yang dibeli oleh proton……!!! bukan company tuh tuh org malaysia punya dan bukan segala teknologi lotus tuh org malaysia yang buat. Proton nak maju cepat jer dan gunapakai teknologi lotus sbb tuh proton beli lutos….klu x lg bertambah malang lah proton nih. Semua harapkan teknologi luar ja…..nak buat sendiri mmg tak boleh punya. Dah bli lotus pun tp still pakai engjin campro yang x pro tuh…org dah xpakai dah engine tuh semua. Guna kan lah teknologi lotus tuh keluarkan engine yang canggih apa guna bli teknologi canggih tp hasil tetap sama no kuality.Mcm persona upgrd lah engine cps wat pe nak pakai aim lah compro lg? nampak sgt proton nak kan duit jer….pentingkan keuntungan dan bukannya kuality.
haha,then just buy your beloved Toyota car,I heard that they have new technology called the automatic accelerator.haha
apahal lu menyalak kat sini bro….terrer gla ke ko pasal engine….mana ko tau bdk2 proton suma x leh buat benda sendiri…..aku tgk diorang nyer knowledge and capability sama jer cam mat saleh….x sangka zaman skang ada lg org mental block dek penjajah…iafm campro more toward economy bro…cps setting untuk performance….market persona besar…iafm lepas euro 4 emmision…cps euro 3 jer…so kalu international market letak engine cps bertambah la tax dia….sebab tu persona pakai iafm jer…lgpun yg beli rata2 family…kalu nk performance beli la neo cps or gen2 cps…
standard la..org2 yg kutuk proton ni..menyalak je pndai..silap2 spm pun xlulus..
May i know at the start engine key, got light or not?
mine, no light.
mine also no light… how bout yours Xiao Qiang?
My H-line also no light….
Nak tanya, sye bru amik Pers. Elegance B Line (manual) ni, mase mula2 pakai ble dah leps bawak…off enjin..tarik kunci bawak keluar dan terus tutup pintu pemandu…dan dalam mase beberapa second, dia akan terkunci sendiri tanpa menekan lock remote di kunci keta…(auto lock)…tapi ble lepas dah pakai dlm seminggu lepas tu…auto lock tu dah takde. mse buat servis first 1000km…dah tnya dah pasal ni, tp diaorg mcm pelik je.
walaubgmanapun…lps keta diservis, fuction auto lock dah mmg takde smpai skrg. So, nak tnyela…sapa2 yg pakai pers. elegance B Line ni…ada ke menghadapi benda yg sme spt saye…!!!!thanks!
sy punya BLine tak ada pula auto lock lepas tarik kunci tu…tapi kalau kita dah lock then unlock, biar dlm 30 sec dia akan autolock balik…itu shj..
saya x berapa perasan tentang function ni.. rasenye kalau kite off enjin die akan unlock sendiri. then lepas cabut kunci dan kite keluar n tutup pintu kalau kite xtekan lock, die akan automatic lock dlm mase beberape second.
memang takder function ni……engko tertekan x sengaja dan x perasan…..
The design was quite nice, and interior was nice as well.. but proton .. for the stronger body parts… needs a lot of improvement .. for the rm45k-50k we buying.. for own Malaysian car, its not really worth it for the value of money
blakang kembang sgt…lmpu kreng cntik de..bumper blakang kna tkr yg bru biar nmpak sporty skit…
better waiting for new replacement WAJA this year..hahaha =p
help!!!!
just got this problem this very morning..when i drive i did notice that an orange light (Lampu amaran periksa enjin) is ON..and when i read the manual its says “Lampu ini akan menyala apabila suis pencucuh di hidupkan..Jika masih menyala ketika enjin sedang hidup,terdapat masalah dalam sistem pancaran”
1. How to solve this problem.
2.It’s a big problem or what
3.Why is this happenig
p/s: Tq for ur help..really worried about my car..this my first car..uwwaaa..
this usually happen if u are starting the car without waiting for the engine to inspect it 1st….try to restart back
hmm seem few of us having same problem… rileks bro… saya pun jadi mcm tu jugak 1st week saya dapat kereta.. 2 kali terjadi … hantar la pada SC yang terdekat… saya dah hantar dan mekanik proton kate mmg ade setting x betul dekat enjin… sampai sekarang selepas dibetulkan x jadi dah masalah tu… better hantar ke SC secepat mungkin takut nant menjejaskan fungsi enjin…mekanik tu kate tersalah setting di bahagian enjin. your car MT or AT?? mine MT
tq to all..
tq for the advise and just return from sc..the problem as mention above already solve..i dont know about u guys but this is my first car so i want to share this..actually problem that related to electronic can be check by com..i watch the sc guy just plug in the cable and just detect and know what is the problem..in my case the coolant in radiator already low..so just add up and ok already..
p/s: sory if the info sound like noob..hehehe..just want to share
Persona Png, thanks for the sharing.Will takenote of this when get my car later…
En. Amer…
Spt yg en. amer cakap tu la dulu function dia…dia akan lock sendiri kalo kte tak tekan kunci remote tu. skrg ni tak pulak jadi mcm tu. cme ble keta dlm keadaan lock, tekan kunci remote utk unlock, tggu dlm mse beberapa second kalo tak buka pintu bru dia akan lock sendiri. msti ada something problem takut tertekan apa2 sblm ni. maklumla keta dulu kunci pakai manual je….ada sape2 tau tak?…TQ!
Xiao Qiang, how was the experiece so far with the new car?Mind to share?Thanks.
What is so great about Malaysian Cars? Since 1983 they have been manufacturing car.All i see is they produce lousy cars,I prefer import cars and quality is always better. Malaysian goverment jack up the import cars so that Malaysian can buy this lousy product.If the import taxes is less i am sure Malaysian ppl will go for import cars.Being patriotic does not save your life when u are in a car.Proton need to review their policies on Human Life.
I am sure Proton has employee who has wife and kids..Safety should come first then faceliftup…By the way,what is the highest NCAP stars proton has?
4-star by NCAP……..Proton Exora…..
Please do some research before commenting…..
Thanks alot….
Recently, Proton improved alot…
But Perodua???
Has yet to sent for any test..
PERODUA has yet to sent for any thus using their rebadge model ” test -rating” to advertise…..I hope people understand that different methods of welding and assembling will result in the different standards of test result. Perodua has no specialise in this area as they only know how to assemble but not assemble properly……
Yeah, 4 out of 5 stars for proton exora… I’m sure by the time the new generation waja and persona will have higher ratings… mark my words as proton is working so hard to compete in foreign markets… They also trying so hard to get into the american market which i’m sure will happen by next year or sooner
First day ngan kete baru…g keje blk keje ada kot 50 kilo…minyak time g keje lebih dari setengah…hampir ke sengatan yg 2nd last….blk keje sampai umah ngan jem suma…minyak x cecah setengah lg..lbh sket dr setengah…agak jimat….later baru kira betol2…lain2 benda suma ok…cuma aku rasa persona ni nyer suspension lembut sket arr dr persona lama…mcm yg dulu nyer lg comfort…accelaration sangat mengujakan…x sabar nk merempit pas servis 1000km nant…ada la 2-3 kali tekan pedal lebih…terasa dia nyer g….huhuhu….normal driving tekan sket jer dh g…rpm dlm 2.5k speed 80-90 smtm 100 x lbh 3k….bunyi2an blum lg kedengaran selain radio yg agak best jgk sound dia….tp radio tu cam simple gila interface dia…huhuhu…weekend nak godek radio tu bg setting terbaik….ok tu jer wat masa ni…hope review ni dpt membantu sapa2 yg berkira2 nk book
ala korang nih walao ape pon proton kete die sume x best.. kalo x kerana cukai kereta import sure sume pkai kete luar.. org x kan beli proton lar.. kalo sape pkai persona korang ley tengok windscreen depan kat dashboard boley nampak kesan gam untuk lekatkan cermin tuh… mana peginya kualiti..? kalo orang kutuk nnti marah.. kalo ye pon at least bagi la elok sikit cara pemasangan kete tuh.. nih nmpk sangat cara pemasangan yg terburu sampai mengabaikan kualiti.
so please by your imported car….why bother commented in this topic anyway…pathetic people always blame others for their incompetencies
After drive my H-line Persona Elegance feel quite nice. Only last week that have air-cond problem (workshop people say are the plug problem).
1. Drive at highway quite comfortable and handling great. (Don’t know driving more than 120km/h will feel comfort or not….)
2. No much noisy sound come from outside and engine part.
3. Pick up reach what i want to do.
4. Because 1000km service not yet do it, now im only drive below 100km/h. So the fc are1km = around RM0.15 (my previous kelisa auto are RM0.14).
5. The tinted that provide not great, so need to do a nice & good function tinted.
Xiao Qiang,thanks for the valuable feedback..
Will take my car go for 1st service at next week Tuesday….But Proton din’t open at Sunday…weekday only open at 8am-5pm, Saturday half day…want take leave again….sign….
usually i just send the car to service in morning, then take it back in afternoon.
don’t wanna waste my time waiting there doing nothing.
or, make appoinment for saturday morning
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salesman proton ni janji je lebih,semua cepat..dah sampai due date cam lancau bg alasan..dah 3 showroom aku cancel tukar loan dan tiga-tiga org melayu salesman mulut manis tp habuk pun xdak..baik aku beli honda xkena tipu lg..wtf!
memang la, keta foreign dah siap2 stok dia..
keta local kena pasang dulu.. kena inspection..kena angkut dgn lori..
estimate 3 bulan untuk dapat keta tu standard biasa la.. bukan sorang je tempah, beribu..
perodua alza katanya 23,000 org tempah..baru dapat sekitar 3,000.. yg 20,000 lagi tu bila? timbang balik sama je… so, tunggu jer la.. kalau taknak tunggu sambar jela keta kat showroon atau testdrive car..haha
dah kalau malas jugak, sambar je Honda @ Toyota, bayar jela RM40,000++ extra untuk spec standard je.. hahaha
Aku dlu tgu dr bini ngdung spi dh klur anak pun x dpt. Last cancel, aku beli Honda Civic I-Vtech 2.0. X ada problem spi skrg. Kerja sing malam penat bro cari duit. Yg penting hati puas….
congrats to all persona e owner. if you feel persona handling is good, if have opportunity how about you test neo handling. you will be more amaze. =)
I dislike the facelift. I hate the skirting. The Persona SE is better looking. The only thing that is great is the side mirror.
hmm.. i hope the side mirrors can be installed in other proton models..i hate the current side mirrors that has blind spots and its sharp edge.
persona ni aircond dia low utk negatif mkin sejuk, max bmksd mkin panas… btl x?
ha ah… btul tu… n smua keta proton mcm tu… tk yg persona E ni dia tlis suhu… so tak de la nak pnin2 lg mane yg pling sjuk n mane yg pling panas…
i saw couple of H-Line new car either on the lorry truck or on the road on NKVE yesterday. Guess H-Line is started to deliver more. Hope can get mine soon. But called the SA asking the status and answer is their branch haven’t got the stock yet. Just wonder y!!!!!
hi proton, can you create next persona simirlar to new hyundai avante? … thanks
not bad!
Did anyone notice that the long rear “chrome” on the persona logo is replaced with a silver painted one instead? I think the original chrome one looks better but i think there must be complaints from public due to sun shining on it , glaring other drivers behind
Tadi aku ke SC Nilai untuk membetulkan tingkap aku yang dah jatuh..Aku dengar customer complain pasal Persona Elegance…Customer kata meter tak berfungsi….Technician kate ada wiring problem sebab upgrade ECU!….Dulu mula2 keluarkan engine campro ada problem, letak IAFM ada problem, upgrade ECU pon ada problem!Baru upgrade ECU tapi pakai engine lama pon boleh timbul problem!…Kalao dapat cipta engine baru sure lagi banyak problem…Ngape haa??? Setiap kali upgrade mesti ada problem….walupon 100kali upgrade tetap ada problem…engine itu jugak….pon ada problem!
Senang ko pi la beli Honda City ka apa ka.. Honda City pun ada bnyak problem spring pakai 2 minggu dah karat. Kalau tak percaya pergi Facabook Carik honda city fanpage.. Jangan la dok kutuk proton sangat Proton baru Lahir tahun 80an Honda semua dah lama dari itu. Kena la paham..
Rileks la bro…. Beli keta pki duit bkn dpt free, klu free rosak sna, rosak sni pun x pe! Kerja penat tu nk dpt bkn senang. Frust tau…. 20thn tu anak aku dr kecik spi msk U. Buatlah perubahan skt.
Caya la… I pnya keta pun sma dpt bln march, asyik msk kelur SC jea.. Geram!!!!!!!
problem??sape kate problem?aku nye Hline elegance ok je….
bagi review sket bro.
3rd day……………………
so far..sumenye ok..condition kete ok..alhamdulillah..xde problem ke pe..mmg best..tahniah proton.. enjin bunyi sedap ckit..xkuat sgt..xslow sgt..mmg best..rase sporty je..design grill dpn..ngan lampu dpn..skirting..LED signal..sumenye nmpk btol2 elegance..lmpu blkg lak mmg cun..wlupun bile mlm cenonit je nmpk..tp still cantik..maybe ni la..”be seen differently” hehe..lagi pe lg eh nk komen..hehe..xtau la speed pun lom test lg tggu lepas 1000km..hehe..ni pun bwk 80-90kmj je..tu pun tekan minyak ckit je..klu tkn lebih ckit..bile smpi 100km..tetibe je akan rase kete melonjak kedepan pastu speed tetibe je akan naik lebih 120kmj..mmg mantap..berbaloi la sape yg dpt memilikinyer..hehe..same je quality mcm kete2 import lain yg sekelas dgnnyer..
6th days……
kete bru lepas service..td pagi blik ipoh ikut highway..start keje..try pecut..tak perasan tau2 meter dh 160kmh..mmg mantap..xde goyang2..bunyik2 ke pe..stable.. thumb up for proton!!!!
face lift face lift………..sudah bosan…..model baru lagi copy siapa…..hai…..proton bila bangun….
face lift /…….again whn they can produce a new model wth futuristic….and engine just using the campro…..modify only….whn they really wake up to get improve it……copy cat, low quality material and part not reliable..specially they service centre proton mah…memang ini macam..
Edmond;
This is the trend of the global car manufaturer, all car manufacturer will have face lift to the current modle each 18 or 24 month, a new model or complete change of design after each 5 years, not only Proton with facelift Toyota just launch the Vios face lift and Honda City just run through the 5 year complete change cycle and launch 2008 model City. Same as Waja this year will have new replacement model for it but it was 10 years late. Nissan sentra also replaced by Latio since the last facelift model N16 2005.
thumb up proton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sape yg kutuk proton ni hampe la korang. at least proton ada initiative nk design, r&d & buat enjin sndiri. sesuai la dengan harga bawah rm60k..spec dia mcm tu. kalau nk semua ada…cari la kereta yg harga above rm100k. buat apa compare dgn harga rm60k. anyway aku bangga dgn proton…coz aku da 6 tahun guna proton.
baru amik keta persona elegance, bawak balik rumah alarm dah rosak..xboleh kunci kereta..bunyi tuutt2 lima kali,lampu merah kelip2 kat meter..ada sapa2 boleh tolong?
bonek atau pintu mana mana tutup tak ketat pun boleh jadi macam ini. salah satu fungsi proton.
iye? nampak sgt tipu..chait… setakat nak reka cerita suruh budak form 3 pun boleh..
baru balik dari SC alor star (aspirasi utara), mekanik found alarm detecter tuk driver punya kunci x berfungis,kena tukar baru..mekanik buka semua body pintu n tuk tukar detecter tersebut..jgn igt saya ni bodoh sgt sampai nak buat cerita budak sekolah..after service rasa da bunyi cam skru xrapat kat belakang seat penumpang..kalo atas jalan x rata bunyi lg kuat..skrg aku buat cerita budak tadika..
Caya la bro… org mtak tlg btul2 depa x mau dgr… lg kutuk kita adalah… Mcm mana nk maju……
kama says:
5/5/2010 at 12:51 pm
baru balik dari SC alor star (aspirasi utara), mekanik found alarm detecter tuk driver punya kunci x berfungis,kena tukar baru..mekanik buka semua body pintu n tuk tukar detecter tersebut..jgn igt saya ni bodoh sgt sampai nak buat cerita budak sekolah..after service rasa da bunyi cam skru xrapat kat belakang seat penumpang..kalo atas jalan x rata bunyi lg kuat..skrg aku buat cerita budak tadika..
betul lah apo kau cakap pasal bunyi kat belakang tuh…keta aku pun der bunyi camtu gak..dah bawak gi SC diaorang test bawak takder bunyi pun katanya..so aku bawak sdiri advisor tuh test drive baru dia dapat detect bunyi tuh..kes telinga tak korek la nih…dah tunggu berjam2 baru diorang dapat detect bunyi tuh datang dari seat belakang katanya longgar..tp hampeh bila aku bawak bunyi masih ader lagi…memang penipu betul lar…dah ler seat depan tuh jahitannya tercabut betul2 frust la weh dapat keta yang problem nih…tu tak per lagi,,,yang paling menyakitkan hati aku hari kedua aku amik keta aku dapat detect ada kemek pada bumbung tepi dekat pintu pada hal aku parking kat umah jer..silap aku jugak tak periksa betul2 masa amik keta ari tuh main amik jer ingatkan keta baru sume cantik….
bro..pegi ke sc..suh dia reset alarm balik..lampu led bulat warna merah kn??
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loan aku llus 16.04.2010 n aku dpt persona m-line aku kaler silver ari khamis mggu lepas 29.04.2010 .. dpt je trus bwak blk kedah..g jln2 ari isnin 2 ari lepas dh ckup 1000 km..g servis n xda apa2 problem pn..alhamdullilah..perfomance pn ok.. mybe nsb aku dpt yg xda problem.. =)
Betul ke ….2 minggu dapat kereta….tak percayalah……loan lulus 16.03.2010 kut, aku rasa kau salah taip lah.,,,,,
btol…aku dpt ambk keta aku kt proton danau kota sebelah cimb bank kt jalan usahawan tu..sblm loan aku lulus, sales aku cakap aku nk kaler pe, aku cakap kaler pe cepat dpt, dia ckp skrg dh ada stok ntuk m-line silver, so aku ambk la..aku ne bkn jnis mmilih sgt..lps loan llus..tggu registration pe smua..dpt la slepas 2 mggu..then dh pakai smpai skrg..nsb baik..no problem..alhamdullilah..
So fast u got your car, my loan also approved at 16.04.2010 but no news yet for my H-Line order.Sigh…..hope can get it soon….
owhh~..just pray hard..more important pray that u be the lucky one got the car with no major problem..=)
M-Line,AGREED!
i juz got my m-line AT 2days ago.nice,juz with minor problem of audio system & rear brake system.consider lucky
Nasib U lucky dpt keta x problem…. I pya keta, sedihla br dpt dh msk SC tpi now dh ok kot… harap2 jgn ada problem lg… My hubby sindir I jea, srh abik keta import I x nk…
iye harap2 dh setle problem keta tu.. klau hubby U sindir..ckp kt dia..at least I sokong barang buatan malaysia..hehe.. Dh nmanya benda ciptaaan manusia..x smuanya perfect..bkn keta je..rumah ke..bangunan ke..ada defectnya..dan x akan dpt memenuhi smua kehendak manusia ne,,yang bernasib baik..dpt yg xda masalah..yg x tu..byk2 la brsabar..walaupn hati sakit cm nk mati..duit habis byk…sbr2..smua tu ujian…
aku blk penang….drive 140km/h…steady…tak rasa melayang pun…rasa mcm bawak 100km/h je..cuma sterring ada gegar sket masa 120km/h…buat balancing xbleh gak…rupa2nya wheel cap punya hal…cabut wheel cap terus cun…blk kl blk aku rembat 160-170km/h….pun steady gak…ferio, civic 1.8, vios….habis aku tapau….rembat punya rembat aku lupa…1st service pun blm lg daaaa….hahaha…tp persona mmg steady….IR proton ni bagus sebenarnya…cuma idea2 dasyat diaorg terhalang oleh org2 yg pentingkan diri sendiri je…aku berani ckp mcm ni sbb aku pun kerja dlm automotive industri…tp keta europe la…keta diaorg pun byk gak pblm…lagi memeningkan kepala weii…
ishh… ungly. cheap looking. no quality. better buy mercedes or bmw or an audi…
hg ingat bmw,merc harga 2 3 kupang ka???
hey welcome, konon nya ada org kaya bace article kereta murah tempatan, kalau mampu of cause beliah BMW, MERCE. But i don’t like merce because the look so old school don’t know why for every model of merce including the Mclarence also look very old man car, maybe Merce in Malaysia normaly is boss car most of the driver are more senior. but all director in my company drive BMW no Merce.
for those who are referring paultan to decide wether to buy persona E or not. This is honest review from me after one week received the car….The good thing, i frequently drive old persona before…compared to persona E, the acceleration and the engine control has improve tremendously…give u the correct power when u needed it…hard to explain…you need to test drive it to feel it…i just love the quietness of the cabin when moving in 80-90kmh… the rpm meter just about 2k…and when i need more power persona never failed me so far…The NVH is superb….seriously… much better then city and vios…good improvement…the ride and handling is superior and the best thing persona have the look… love the meter cluster so much…have BCM feature…very elegant the bad…i like the simplicity of the radio unit…but its just too simple…the reception has improve but at some area its still had zzzz…zzz sound…the gap still need more attention from proton production boys…the button at the steering also need some improvement…apart from that…everything is fine and i love my car so much…No problem so far…trust me…its value for money and worth every penny…
Chap_de-x,thanks for the feedback. Glad the car is ok
thanks for the feedback folk,now I’m pretty sure that my decision is 100% accurate to choose Persona E as my second car.
IPOH 5 Mei – Seorang wanita terkejut apabila kenderaan pelbagai guna (MPV) milik abangnya yang rosak dan sedang dibaiki tiba-tiba terbakar dan meletup di Jalan Simpang Pulai-Ipoh, di sini hari ini.
Dalam kejadian pukul 11.45 pagi itu, enjin Toyota Estima yang dipandu Norlaila Zakaria, 34, mati tiba-tiba dan mengeluarkan api di bahagian depan
sumber : utusan malaysia 6 Mei 2010
kesimpulan : tiap2 kereta.. mesti ada masalah juga… kepada pencacai proton.. jangan kata kereta import..semua quality bagus sangat…
aku dah pun melenjan persona e aku sejauh 3500km. smalam aku pegi meeting kat ipoh dr kl, 180kmh bole pegi.takde problem.sdap bawak.myk pon ok. aku punye base line manual je. kalo tukar rim plus tayar lebar sikit misti lagi best.
takyahla poyo sgt kutuk2 keta ni. dugong or city tu bknnye dr jepon pn. try la bwk city ke dugong 180kmh. tak dapat stability cam persona e punya.
aku ckp sbb aku dah bawak keta2 berkenaan.
kalo nk compare pun, minyak je la. bagi aku, persona e ni jimat la utk 1.6.
proton ni ok.technology plus r&d ade je. yang jadi problem tu besala, mass production.misti ade tlepas pandang. alhamdulillah, aku punya ok..
kalo korang tgk la btol2..design lotus tu mmg teserlah..tak pnah drive lotus jgn compare ok..haha..
tapi persona terlalu byak masalah….pembuatan nya tiada kualiti langsung bau 3 bulan i pakai hampir 6 kali dtg proton servis tuk complaint….sgt dukacita,,,,
bleh citer masalah tu kat sini…..pe yg masalah sgt tu….org len pakai persona gak…relax..jek
die kecewa kot sebab xdapat pakai Elegance….
saper suh beli old persona??..
kan dh jeles…hahhah..
nice job proton!!….
yup….maybe jeles ambik 3 bulan lbih awal dr elegance…
aku dpt aku punyer persona E esok selepas sebulan menunggu..
Kawan sekerja aku baru ja amgkat perona E ni. Sebelum dia beli tu, aku suruh dia beli Myvi lebih jimat minyak dan sesuai dengan dia perempuan berbandan gempal. Tapikan dai tetap dengan pendirian dia nak angkat pesona ni. Aku tanya kenapa? Tau tak pa jawabnya…. ‘Aku dah bosan dengan Myvi! Indah khabar dari rupa… handling tak sedap… setakat jimat minyak apalah sangat… orang beli myvi tu bukan sebab apa sebab dia orang ingat itu produk Toyota.. tu jer…’ Punyalah aku terkezut dengan jawapan dia.
lama aku menunggu H-LINE aku keluar!
H-line only available for silver color now…. dunno when the chiffon green coloronly out for high line…. can proton produce faster?
sama je dgn aku bro!!! booking m-line pd 26/3, smpai la ni x dpt2 lg… hai mcm2 lak dia bg alasan. aku pn tgh sbr je ni, sbb nak skng kete m’sia. tp lau cmni lh jwbnya kene beli kete jepun jgk jwbnya. pelik jgk ye bro, diorg x bc ke komen kt ni..
Aku book Persona Elegance H-Line 26/4/2010. Esoknya 27/4/2010, SA aku call kata kereta aku dah ada. Tapi aku beli dengan pengecualian duti eksais 50% sebab aku OKU. Sekarang ni tengah tunggu proses dari Ministry of Finance. Memang tak sangka begitu cepat aku dapat kereta. Sekarang ni hari-hari aku pergi showroom tengok kereta aku. Harap proses aku tu dicepatkan.
salam,sybas pd proton coz berjaya mennghasilkn produk yg berkualiti,kpd pengguna2 diluar sana yg hanye tau mengomplin hentikankn lah tabiat korang tu,sedarlah diri tu skit,,kite kn org malaysia;sepatutyna bangga dgn produk kite sendiri,tgk mcm wa,ok je…sebab wa tau susah senang wa dgn proton.coz wa keje kt proton,,lu org mane tau…lu pikir la sendiri,lu org yg suka komplin pasal proton wa tau knp coz lu org tak mampu nk pakai krete proton,snang crite cakap je lelebih duit poket kosong,ape barang,bro…wat malu je…anywhere,syabas buat proton………terus maju k,
halo bro… wa tau lu keja kat proton patut lu msti lbh kan kualiti keta proton bkn jenis psng siap jea, org komen mesti ambik positif bkn negetif. Tgkat usha utuk mencari jln penyelesaian. Br proton maju. Anway kat my garage ada Alphard, Honda I-Vtec 2.0 & yg kecik Viva elite. Maybe Pesona on the way…..
roslen… sombong nya anda… hehehhe… bersyukur kepada Tuhan anda mampu memiliki harta duniawi yang indah seperti itu… harta akhirat bila pula??
Saya bkn jenis hindung tinggi lupa daratan. sal saya bermula dari bawah hingga lah hari ni… tpi sedara kita ckp spi lupa diri… Harta dunia & harta akhirat pun saya cari… Dua2 sama penting. T/kasih imam muda mengingatkan saya.. Dunia hanya sementara, akhirat jua yg kekal selamanya….
u talking rubbish and childish
its really frustrated to think how unlucky were we to live in a country where cars are so expensive.. but look at the bright side.. we should be thankfull cause Malaysia much way better to live in compare to others in many other aspects. ” Hujan emas di negeri orang, Hujan batu di negeri sendiri, Lebih baik di negeri sendiri” “the grass always greener on the other side”
Persona Elegance da ambil… B) Congrat Proton!!
Finally I got my H-Line yesterday 3pm after 6 weeks of waiting,tested it and so far no problems. The engine is 2 times much more responsive compare to my previous Gen2 and I think is a good buy!
Yesterday night went to Genting Highland using my Persona Elegance. All that happen are the handling and comfort at cornering quite best, and the pick up also nice. Thumb up!
Xiao Qing congrat, btw is it H line Elegance, do you smell any rubber burn ?
Sure got, because my Persona Elegance H-line (Auto). So Auto transmission not like manual can control the gear. Like last time me Perodua Kelisa Auto also same can smell the rubber from engine. Next month i will go Genting again, will try one more time to Genting using my Persona Elegance….
Bile baca komen ni ada betul jugak kan..
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Normal Life says:
17/4/2010 at 8:03 pm
i will choose Persona E compared to this Vios.. So, i can save some money for future..
Some malaysian prefer to get vios not because of its performance, but because its brand and resale value..
Let say, 2010
Persona E-RM57,000 (save RM30,000)
Vios G-RM87,000
on 2020, assumption only
Persona E 2010 model- RM25,000(lost RM32,000)
Vios G 2010 model – RM40,000 (lost RM47,000)
So, guys.. which one is better??
Let say, we use RM30,000 saving money on 2010 to invest in unit trust.. by the end of 2020, we already got about RM60,000..
So? If u are brilliant, are u choosing Vios? ya, for rich person its just small money, but for normal persoan, better do some investment..
BTW, i prefer the car for enjoyment of driving, ya Persona..
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katakan Yeop amik H-Line, pastu masa mula2 pakai repair+modified+ulang alik SC RM2000…
fikir2 balik..still untung for long term walau pada mula2 kena bayar repair sana sini..hehe..
kalau la government tak kenakan tax..keta persona pun lagi murah dari vios..
hrmm.. berkira-kira nak angkat satu ni… tunggu skiit je masa lagi..
Hey, Projek IGUANA iaitu SUV pertama Proton is cumming out… better wait loh..
I will be the 1st Proton SUV, hehehe… i hope it looks like Proton MSX
Bila Proton SUV ni nak launch??
rasanya bila Snowhite makan Apple beracun la, pastu putera datang dgn Proton SUV..hehehe
anyone from KL got his or her highline with chiffon green color?? i need to know, coz my sa said need wait 1 month more
I am still waiting, first choice is Chiffon Green and second choice is Bronze Garnet…..still waiting….when do you order? i ordered mid last month…
i order in march after 2 or 3days persona launched…. but my sa said only silver available now… i don’t like silver.. look so normal, but nice tooo…. u from KL too?
Am frm PJ,ordered frm Subang area since 16th Apr 2010. The SA promised the deliver time is between 4-6 weeks.Now already 3 weeks plus, i am going to start chasing exactly 4 weeks…..hopefuly can get it early!
i ordered from kepong area…. he is my cousin uncle, wanna scold him faster oso very shy… haihx… i call him once every 2 days… i think chiffon green color will come in this or next week… i oso feel very weird, other area like perak or johor alreeady got these two new color, only in KL don’t have….
That’s y i don wan to buy frm someone that familiar with,wana scold also tak boleh!i call to my SA but she will check with her manager before she confirm with me.Hope got the news but by looking ard the news around i don c i will get it soon lo!So just wait…wat to do!
hey.. tarzan … any news for your chiffon green highline
i already ask my sa get my silver, if these 2 colors really need take one month
coz i aledi sell my car.. i have to get it soon… your sa there say need how many days?
persona memang tak luk
Received my Persona Elegance H-line on 6th May, fog lamp button missing and seat belt indicator not functioning. bad first impression
please read the owner manual first to get your answer….
the fog lamp button really missing, already made complain with SA and the empty button with replace with the fog lamp button soon.
regarding the seat belt indicator not sure it should be functioning or not, any idea ?
i dunno how this can happen to you because fog lamp button for persona are clearly visible at the center console in the same row with emergency signal button…if u say fog lamp button is missing meaning the whole set of button is missing. looks like all the button was one piece of plastic…how proton boys team can miss it during pre delivery inspection….do you already sign the release letter..if not u totally can reject the car until their solve all the problem…for seat belt indicator…like i said please read the manual…its clearly indicated in the manual
it shows that how stupid u are.. dont read the manual given, but comment here n here like a pro.. hehe
To make things clear, I’ve read the manual multiple times.
The fog lamp button is clearly missing on the center console, it only comes with hazard, alarm reset and rear demister button. SA already confirm replacing the button, as for how it happens I have no idea, it’s weird for them to missed it while manufacturing the car.
In the manual, the Seat belt warning lamp description says “The warning lamp illuminates when ignition switch is turned to “ON” position. This warning lamp indicator will go off after 6 seconds. The lamp will go off immediately once driver’s seat belt is fastened.”
Ignition switched to “ON” & seat belt not fastened – no sign of seat belt warning lamp.
If I missed anything or mention anything wrong, feel free to make correction
if i not mistaken there is *asterisk symbol there mention that only certain model have that function…mine also dun have the seat belt indicator function
their mistake on differentiating m and h line kot
Received my M line last Wed, impress with the improved NVH and acceleration but i found loud sound coming from front when the air con compressor start running, could it be the lossen belt? In addition i have to press brake paddle much harder to brake, my proton Sale rep said the brake disc and pad is still “licin” as it is still new, is that true? Another problem is i can hear the “tak” sound (once and not obvious) coming from the right wheel area when drive on uneven road.
yeargh…the aircon compressor sound is a bit loud….when u hear it from outside. but when u inside the car u hardly hear it rite….you need to press harder to brake…hmmm for me my car is totally different….just have to press a little to get the grip…still tight i think…i also experienced the tak sound at the rear…but not so obvious…i suspect it was the jack knock at the spare tyre rim…maybe you want to check it out….if still happen ask service center to check during service….
the problem is i can hear the loud sound when air con compressor start running when inside the car…sigh… I never experience this kind of loud sound in other car, i think some thing went wrong. need to check it out at the SC when first 1000km service.
yup agree…air cond compressor sound a bit loud…
spa boleh tolong…..urgent nak dapatkan Persona Hline silver..loan dah lulus tapi dealer terlalu lemah untuk fight sampai dapat keta…penantian itu penyeksaan…book dari bulan 2 lagi….T_T
Apa kata!!! U cancel booking pesona. Beli Civic I-Vtec 1.8 cepat dapat. Klu mahal pun bebaloi. keja penat cari duit x pe janji hati puas. Mcm kwin bini no.2 tu. Klu msk bodykit Mugen trangkat beb!! Mcm I, dlu order pesona tgu lama sngt. dh give up. trus sambar Civic.
Jgn marah nti cpt tua…..
silap booking kot..patutnya booking kat branch..bukan kat dealer…puas sudah call & followup…sorry to say bukan tak nak support usahawan proton yang kecil2 sedia ada tapi kalau tak jaga hati pembeli…lambat laun tutup la kedai…kena ingat, cara kita berniaga akan jadi track record kita…orang akan bercerita kedai mana paling bagus layanannya…
Btul 3X….
Hello
i have also book a persona SE since February (then change to HLine) and the SA said that there is no stock.
Is this really true or is it that the SA is not doing his job. Can anyone clarify this?
I am sick an tired of waiting and being lied by the SA.
Aku masih pakai Proton Saga lama…huhuhu..Persona Elegance ni ok..lawa gak. Harga pun ok gak laa..Syabas Proton!
aku pun booking persona SE bln 2 raya cina siap ada CNY gifts lagi….malangnya hingga kini personaku belum jua muncul tak tau la akan dapat lagi ke CNY gifts yg dijanjikan tu???????
I had paid booking fees for H-line too, few bank had call me for verification on the following week but till now my SA never call me, not as what he promis will call me to update the status till now i don’t know is any bank approved or not and i don’t want to call the SA cos i am his customer he should serve me and update to me not i call him and remind him what to do. more over i had paid the booking fees no just normal enquires.
No problem i can wait, wait till 4 or 6 month later i will bring this case to Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Hal Ehwal Pengguna. Hope all you guys in long waiting and have any complain regarding your new car please make complain to Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Hal Ehwal Pengguna.
Since the long waiting become much serious Proton should make a press confereance to clarify what is actual happening and what is the corrective action plan, not just keep quiet, Proton is one of the big corporate and should appologiest and explain to people, don’t wait untill people to unveil the the hiddent issue, that time is too late.
Proton have to win back the customer confidence.
TT says:
10/5/2010 at 9:46 pm
Aiyar don’t expect more lah coz it’s a Proton
but at least new Proton is better than old Proton,u can try or maybe not new Proton but u cannot try old Proton!!!
bila nak sampai mline silver nih… lambatnyer….
bunyi aircond memang kuat, tapi aircond pun kuatkan berbanding kete lain, so give n takelah. tapi, mungkin bleh cuba pasang fan blower dia ke lowest setting,maksudnye just rotate sekali@2 kali jer dari tulisan on.so xdalah bunyi kuat sangat. cooler maintain 25 darjah jer.
tapi kalu kuat pelik(bukan mcm standard sume persona elegance, hantar sc checking). aircong kete jepun bunyi memang slow, aircond pun slow. mcm contoh, no 2 kat waja n savvy aku lagi kuat angin dia dari no 3 grand livina 1.8. xcaya, cubalah sendiri.
after alarm problem solved, i found that left fog lamp is not functioning and also fuel drain out too fast..penang-sungkai-penang cost RM 70.00 full tank..is it normal?
and also fuel drain out too fast..penang-sungkai-penang cost RM 70.00 full tank..is it normal?
How much km?
Factory spec – 6 litre for 100 km (manual), 6.6 litre for 100 km (auto).
Ok le tu,kalau ko terrer sgt wat sdiri le keta..apa le,sapot le brg malaysia..
Anybody has experience with Crank Angle Sensor spoil which causes engine dead?
The problem can happen at any time. Just imagine you are driving happily to Genting Highland. In the middle of the road at night time, suddently the engine dead. And need to call tow truck back to KL to Proton Service Center. I heard many people have this experience already.
ya, i faced with that problem with my Vios TRD sportivo 2 times already…
not experience yet even had been up n down genting ample of time. but heard many times about honda speed gear problem
Erm..nak tanye pada sape2 yg dah pakai persona elegance ni…ok x?
Berbaloi x agak2? sbb tgh tggu loan approve untuk persona elegance H-line…cume still tgh pk lg…takut nyesal…
Pastu, kete persona SE dah xde kuar lagi eh?
Actually, ape beze persona SE dan persona elegance H-Line…mane lagi berbaloi beli?
Persona SE xkuar dh…skrg nie,suma klbhan yg ada pd persona SE bnding persona H-line(bkn elegance),spt leather seat,GPS,auto cruise,dh ada pd persona elegance H-line…jd H-line bg model elegance dh mncapai spec SE dulu dh..
Proton oh proton… aku ada sgt2 banyak mslah dgn wira aeroback se, dari awal mbbeli dh bperang dgn salesman (sbab kete xsampai2 n bila buat report ke psatuan pengguna baru tkial2 hntar kete), tapi bila pakai xhabis2 mslh, dan bila dah cukup2 habis ‘edah’ @ warranty laa.. segala2nya kena repair & tukar dari depan sampai belakang. Bayangkan brape banyak duit aku habis ??? Nape kete continental yg jauh lebih “murah” (mahal di msia je sebab ‘gomen’ tolong cover…) brg2nya tahan lasak ?? Pelik…
Aku rasa2 la.. penjual, mekanik dan pembekal alat2 ganti semua terlibat dlm hal2 nih. Sejauh mana mrk2 nih jujur jual kete (kete xde kata dah ready..), service kete (kita xtgk apa diaorg buat kat belakang workshop, betul ke dia tukar minyak, pulg dan lain2..??) dan sejauh mana original brg2 dibeli tuh..?? alaaa brape bnyk dah kita dgr minyak injin petronas pun kena ciplak…
Kalu tanya banyak2 mula la nak marah.. tapi pelik yek.. nape marah ?? ada apa2 kot…??? Aku tau smua nih sbab mekanik kete aku skrg kwn baik, jd baru ku tahu…
Jadi pd smua yg “tlibat” ..(umat2 ISLAM tuh.. nak g syurga buat la betul2, pd bukan islam tuh, agama korang pun xajar mnipu.. enjoy lah korang.. tuhan sgt2 adil…)
Jadi mcmana aku nak bangga dgn kete msia, beli mahal pastuh repair… aku bukan anak org kaya.. … Pihak Proton kena lakukan pemantauan secara serius dari dlm kilang sampai kat luar sana… baru xsakit hati beli mahal dari kete mat saleh tapi kualiti hancur..!!
Received M line auto on 5th May, today found sound from air con air flow centre ventilator, it is due to the loose ventilator blade, sigh…have to send for repair or replace at Proton Edar service centre.
Me also hear some noise when open the air-cond, what happen ah?
i think it is due to the loose ventilator blade (which direct the air to left or right direction or horizontally), i found it vibrates when air start blowing out, but if i hold the ventilator blade with some objects, it will stop vibrates and no more sound. What a poor quality ventilator.
it is normal…
all gen 2 and persona always behave like that
No, it is not normal.
Somehow u have been immune for sumting like this.
Go fix it, send an official complain to Proton, they shud make Corrective actoin, then Preventive Action…
So that other people wont have to face problem like these anymore.
Hope all you guys in long waiting and have any complain regarding your new car please make complain to Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Hal Ehwal Pengguna.
tutup jela aircond tu kalau nak senyap..bodoh betul la..
memang aircond nak sejuk ada bunyi la kipas dia.. aircond kat rumah pun bunyi jugak engine dia kat luar tu.. sebab tak dengar sebab kotak kipas kat luar..
fikir la dulu dgn logik akal..
aiyo bibabi, bunyi itu bukan bunyi kipas la, sure i know the sound of kipas and sound of air blowing, tapi bunyi yang saya maksud bunyi getaran dari tingkap aliran udara, blade tingkap yang longgar bergetar pada speed kipas yang minimum, macam semasa angin kuat bertiup sampai tingkap rumah (sliding window) yang longgar bergetar…
bibabi, bacalah tulisan saya betul-betul, cuba faham apa yang dimaksudkan sebelum cakap orang bodoh, tak bertamadun langsung, kesih sangat orang macam ini….. sure we know the sound of fan, i have been driving car for more than twenty years in numerous car la….
Dia punya ventilation yang bergetar, just turn all the way up, the sound will disappear. Anyway, after the unit cooled by aircon, the sound also disappear.
Was it suppose to be like that, as per design?
If not, then it is a defect. U shud be more sensitive for sumting like this.
Go to ur SC and fix it.
The sound comes from its ventillation, if you turn all the way up, then it will disappear. Also, after it is cooled by aircon, vibration sound will also disappear.
my fren, just go to the SC and complain la.. it still under warranty.. cos i also have the same problem.. so, now waiting for the spare part..
The car boost very few differences from its predecessor and hence is not a worth while upgrade to be considered. As an elegant car, the interior, mainly dashboard and instrument cluster must be improved, providing a far more sophisticated look. This is the market toyota and honda have captured. Their interior is catchy and elegant and their exterior is even better. The engine from toyota or honda is also well-known for its technology and low fuel consumption. But credit to Proton as they have managed to create a considerably good car at a very affordable price.
received my m-line persona E on 30/4/10..currently no major problem except my fog lamp only sebelah kiri yang hidup..i dun think its normal..will fix it on my 1st service….
tunggu kot2 kuar pesona special edition.
bukan dah kuar ke?
persona ni xde opsyenal body control module macam exora ke?
Cop cop…sori offtopic sket…tgh konpius sebenarnyer…
Aritu tgk kat mane tah, kete persona elegance ni ade tray kat bawah seat leh bubuh kasut,
tp td g showroom, xde lak…ke salah model eh?kete ape yg ade tray kasut bawah seat tu?myvi ke?bukan persona ke?pastu…td g showroom, ade mline je…tp interior die leh tahan la…luas gak…seat belakang tu agak sakit gak kalau nak jalan jauh…tp yg xberape best tu, pintu die nak kene tutup kuat baru la rapat, member kate sbb kete tu org dah bukak tutup banyak kali (maklumlan dok kat showroom kan)…mase dok belek2 persona tu, kat belakang ade gen-2 baru, facelift gak kot, 22hb ni akan lancar, SA tu la yg kate..smart gak, tp xbanyak perubahan sgtla…tp ok…hehe…
honda city kot
I get my persona E H-line 1 week ago…. So far no major problem. Only the spoiler got defect, need to send for rework. The wheel alignment a bit out and the stop lamp seal came out, will ask the SC to fix. Feul consumption was 11.1L/100KM when then 1st tank empty, currently 2nd tank at 9.4L/100KM. C whether will drop after 1K service.
Got my persona elegance in ONE week..very satisfied with the Sales Agent…So yesterday officiate it by bringing mum to dinner…So far so good..hope it remains that way..hehehe
PE ade 5 kaler…
Which one is better yer..
Yg nampak elegance la…
hitam cam xberape la…cam berape menyerlah…
merah cam pelik..huhuhu..
skrgni nak pilih samada hitam atau bronze tu…
tp pelik2 merah pun cantik gak..
antare 3 3 ni, mane lebih elegance?
choose bronze….you will never regret…red also is elegance color for persona E
silver la heheheheh
Hehehe…
Loan dah approve…Sc tu dah call td ty nak warne ape…
As chap_de_x said, amek Bronze Garnet…huhuhu…xsabar rasenyer…
Tp…rasenyer dah banyak kali gak bace pasal kete PE ni engine mati tgh jalan…
Ui…nape eh?ape masalah ye sebenarnyer?takut gak sbnrnyer sbb bukan pro sgt bawak kete…
Pengalaman mase dengan cikgu sekolah memandu dl je…
Tu pun 2 kali fail…huhuhu…harap2 sgt dapat set yg ok…
Tp lame kot nak tggu turn dapat…
Received M line auto 12 days ago, clanking sound from front right wheel side when turning into uneven road, today this clanking sound get louder when turning into uneven road as well as straight uneven road at normal speed (40-50 km/hrs), sound like the suspension arm hitting the car body or other metal components, it only happens to the front right wheel area. Very strange……
Have u change the chamber nuts when do alignment? if yes, change to the original one, non adjustable. if not, maybe ask them to change the orifice valve, heard both solution can solve the problems if related.
Thanks for your advices. I have not send my new car for any repair or modification, it is all original. By looking at it, i need to send it to SC for check up, see how it can be rectified.
Dear MAT,
Are u mechanic for Proton? Lolx !
If u do, tell me ur emel and i want to ask sumting !
can somebody tell me why alignment shop always ask to change the chamber nuts to adjustable for the new car..?
I am driving my Proton Persona Elegance H-Line (Auto) for 10 days . I had experienced 2 times when I about to turn into a parking (Applied the break in order to slow down) then the engine suddently just stop with ‘D’ – Drive mode. Anyone can assist on this ? Thanks
Paul, sorry out of topic. I heard Proton going to launch a new Gen 2 this 25th May? Is that true? Any details on this? Facelift or completely new model?
last week i went 2 showroom, dah tgk dah gen 2 tu, macam facelift je…xbanyak beze, sport rim dgn bumbung hitam…lampu semua sama…xtau la sbb xcek detail…22hb ni launching rasenyer..SA tu yg cakap….
Oh yeke. Thanks bro. Tunggu Waja Lancer la kalau macamni. Barula berbaloi-baloi.
I’ve got my Persona M line auto last Thursday.900km already.Soon will do the 1st service.Just want to share my experienced during this weekend.I’ve got no major problem except clanking sound from behind(passenger’s seat right side I guess),rattling sound from the air-cond ventilator and also sound under the dashboard(can’t detect what sound but little only).For those who already face these problems,hope you can share where this clanking sound came from so I can tell the SC to fix the problem.Besides,I’m satisfied with the car performance especially the handling(ffuuhhh) and if the sound problems can be rectified,for sure this car is value for money!!
the sound from the seat can be solve use a duck tape or washer. it is the back seat latch that hitting each other during road undulation. can d.i.y or send to sc when service. the rattling sound is from the vents, that needs attention from sc.
anyway,thanks MAT =)
Anybody experienced changing their air cond vents at SC?I’ve already told them during my 1st service but no action taken =( Also my back seat problemo.mr MAT,where to put the duck tape?Is it at the ‘U’ shape steel or at the lock inside the seat?this is my 1st car.dunno how to DIY.ari 2 sumbat kertas tapi x jadi.hehe.
As’salam & Slmt Sejahtera,
Aku nak tanya ada tak sape2 yg nak jual original sport rim(rim jer) M / H line area Penang or Kedah(sg.petani/kulim). Bajet rm400 jer (payment cash).Kalau ada sape2 yg berhajat nak jual call aku at 0194157023
rm400 xdpt le bro.kdai amek pn dlm 600 je.. ade gak diorg jual ngn tyar skali rm1k++..
klu yg rim lamanya brapa ?yg rim baru tu mkn la..rm600++.sebelum P.Elegance
aku guna waja campro first edition..banyak songeh..member aku keje kat proton edar kata waja aku taraf teksi jer..sebab aku ambik kat EON…
dia kata lagi..nak persona ker…waja ker…ambik kat proton edar..
persona baru ni…cuma tukar lampu jer..aku pun pelik…napa la pasaran kete nasional tak ubah2..tapi buat EMAS cantik lak…
area kL sape yg dah dapat brown garnet nye H -line? dah lame tunggu ni xdpt2 lagi.SA kata skrg warna silver n hitam je….betol ke? leh confirmkn
yeke?aku ny SA kata skrg xde wat slver skrg,dh lps pn turn kaler 2,stiap mggu kilang cat kaler lain2,mcm mggu ni sume cat hitam,next week cat green.. aku nk pcaye pn ssh,dh call protn i-care smlm diorg kate ikut prmintaan,klu byk kaler hitam diorg spary hitam byk.. arif,ko amek kt area mn? aku amek kt klang (istilah wira)
huhu..memang kete proton yg ader kat malaysia ni hampesss cm banganggggg….sepatutnya buat lah tuk rakyat malaysia kereta yg kualiti…ni x ..bila hantar kat luar negara elok jer….plk tuh jual kat luar murah pada tempat sendiri….x ke naya org kita sendiri..cmne kita nk bangga dgn barangan kita kalau yg tmpatan x elok…kereta malaysia mahalllllllllllllllllllllllllll cm banganggggggg….
Apa kata! Minum dulu pekena teh tarik! Fuh!!! sedap….. (comercial break)
Jgn mare ah!!!!
ape marah2 tu…. rilek bro
gov letak cukai tinggi la kat negara ni punya kete ( ceritanya nak reduce trafik jam)
mestilah mahal dkat sini….
pastu lak cukai negara luar murah2… dia xde keje pastu dia up quality nak bagi naik harga…sebenarnya nak ikot standard antarabangsa
lain kali beli proton kat thailand la, import masuk…. masyuk…
lg1 .. cuba compare harga kete kat sini ngan kat kawasan bebas cukai tu….hehehehe
I got my Persona E last 2 weeks. my only problem is the driver’s window. Sound like it hit something when it half way down.. Call my SA and it said it will call the SC to check my prob.
Just now on the way to work saw a Persona E suddently stop at middle of the road and causing jam,hopefully not due to some major problem!!!Sigh…….really worry when i get my car later having the same!!!!!!!!
Maybe due to spoil Crank Angle Sensor. Engine dead as if no petrol.
By looking at the possitive angle,really hope that is a real small problem lo
maybe engine stop…. kalo manual maybe main clutch n minyak xbetul. keter baru la kan. “sindrom” keter baru.. takut nk ramp byk n lepas clutch dengan tiba2
Sigh…just called to my SA asking for status of my car after 1 month plus waiting. She claims that her branch so far only received 2 units of H-Line from Proton.Guess need to wait longer …..SIGH…..
still no other color beside silver? sigh….
So far i only manage to see either silver or black H-Line at KL or PJ area…..
hey tarzan.. can u give me your e-mail or wat. to contact
if your car come means my car come too ><
we can exchange info about our car together….
have any complain regarding your new car please make complain to Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Hal Ehwal Pengguna.
Hi All,
Siapa yg berhajat nak jual sport rim jer ori proton persona ?jenis yg lama pun takpe.Area Utara.
just got back from SC regarding weird sound from my power window.. After checked, they confirm it was from defected retractor.. gosh, need to wait for 2 weeks for the parts.. hopefully no more prob
Paul, any news on the new Gen2 this coming 22nd May?
Dari pemerhatian saya pasal masalah keter proton ni yg banyak ialah minor problem. Masalah ni blh diselesaikan sekiranya bahagian PDI (pre delivery inspection) membuat pemeriksaan 100% sebelum diserahkan pd pelanggan.lagi satu,Keluarkan vendor2 yg bermasalah tanpa kompromi yang pastinya akan memberikan reputasi buruk kpd proton.Apa pun tahniah untuk Proton kerana berani untuk berubah…
Its a good car. Setahun anak saya pakai takda apa2 masalah. Tiada kereta yang sempurna…..name it kalau ada kereta yang ferfect dalam dunia ni. Test drive dulu baru cakap. Baru kenal kereta dah nak komen yang bukan2. Bawa dulu baru tau…..kalau tak cuba kita tak tau. Kerja memburuk2kan proton ni telah wujud sejak saga pertama dikeluarakan dan ianya dirancang dengan rapi sebab pada ketika itu kereta mereka tak boleh jual (tak laku). Semangat kita ketika itu begitu tinggi untuk membeli kereta kita sendiri. Berbagai-bagai tomahan dibuat. Sampaila sekarang ni…kita dah mula terikut2 taksub dengan jenama kononnya. I am 62 yrs old lupa berapa banyak kereta saya dah pakai and i m a proton lover. Masa ni kami ada perdana, persona, neo, savy myve, kelisa, volvo suv, bmw 325i. Tak main pun kereta jepun, korea atau cina. Semuanya kereta baru. Kalau setakat kereta 1600 cc kebawah tu, belilah kereta kita …sama aja. Kereta2 lain pu banyak komplin, kalau nak kumpul bebakul2 juga. Lainlah kalau kereta mewah. Jangan dengar hasutan kuatkan jatidiri kita.
Hidup En Hasan!! =)
1 malaysia…….
dah sedar ade gerakan komunis dlm negara ni ….. :-/
myvi & kelisa bkn pki tecnology jepang ke?
caya lah proton…
i love u
Hello everyone.
Just want to ask and complain to any proton employee or DSZ himself which i am very sure is reading this forum.
I booked a Persona SE at first ( in February) which was out of stock so i had to switch to Persona E High line which i have not even received although in the brochure it stated the waiting period is 1 to 2 month.
My loan was already approved in February which at that time was only 3.75 %. Now it is 4 % . My SA just called and said that i can pick up my car next week ( still skeptic coz last time he lied).
The problem is that now i have to reapply a new loan with the 4% interest although it wasn’t my fault. What should i do ?
I have already even bought my plate number which already ‘basi’ (WTQ ), waited so long without any compensation and have to pay more for a car which is famous for its low quality???
So is this fair? i urge to those having the same problem to write to Proton and also ‘Persatuan Pengguna’, the newspapers or anyone so that ‘nasib kita di bela’ We are the consumers and the consumers are always right. We shouldn’t played around.
thank you.
i wonder why you even bother to buy a car which u quote low quality…i had similar situation like you…1 1/2 month after persona e launch i got my car and its worth waiting for it…my suggestion please check with your SA the delivery time, if he still cannot deliver his/her promise, report to i-care…if still not satisfied please report to persatuan pengguna as you suggested but please dont try to mislead others
mr chap, i believed AC is in very disappointed mood.He is looking for protection, but maybe do not know the right channel.As from my reading on your comment, you really like your PE very well right? i am here not to bash proton or protecting other manufacturer, in fact, frankly i am very satisfied with current PE after the test drive session.Most of the commenter here are not satisfied with the finishing of the car.And I agree with them. The only matter that Proton must focusing on is the QC.Even last model of persona still have power window problem.People might say that is only a minor problem, but minor problem can become a major problem if there is no proactive action from proton,and the end result is??? people keep highlights on the poor quality of Proton.But don’t you worry, I am patriotic as you are, but in case of Proton, I don’t feel any patriotism, for now.
dear chap_de_x
why do i bother buying this car is because i don’t really have a choice. There is no other sedan with this price tag here in Malaysia.
I am not misleading anyone. Proton have already HAD a bad reputation on its quality and everyone know this. I didnt say that the persona have quality issue. It is a reputation that proton still needs to improve.
I have already checked with my SA so many times. i am fed up with his lies and already emailed i-care so many times without any reply.
So you don’t really know or understand my situation yet you r still accusing me of misleading??
I waited more than 3 month, been played around by the SA, Plate no. dah basi, and now i have to pay more as the interest has increased just because Proton cannot deliver the car on time.So issit my fault?? Why should i pay more? i should get some kind of compensation.
so chap_de_x do you want to paid this increment for me??? or i want to ask you who should be responsible??
Proton is misleading by writing in the brochure that the waiting period is 1 to 2 month. It is not me.
I have no problem with proton cars . I have drove so many cars (Audi, BMW, merz Toyota, Renault, Opel and many more) in my life and tested them on the Autobahn. i have tested those car pushing it to the limit. Yet i still think that proton cars are relatively good with that price tag.
But the service is still not so much. The reputation is not so much.
SO please understand the situation and don’t just accuse me..
Guys,
I booked se (for my mrs.) on 18 Jan, changed to h line elegance after launch and got the car on 7 May. Booked reg no. twice and both basi so finally booked new one. Loan approval also expired because only 3 months valid. Got new loan at 3.90 % i/o earlier 3.75%. My branch P/E tried to appeal on behalf to finance co. to retain the previous interest but was rejected. Got silver but actually requested bronze garnet or chiffon green as first & second choice. (Took silver because already no more stamina to wait some more).
Hey, who says everything in this world is fair.
But after getting the car (silver when shining looks very striking – you should see), had no regrets about the car. Good & smooth pickup (better than my mrs previous waja), good cabin insulation, absorbs not so good road conditions with ease. Hey, I’m amazed. Radio works fine, a/c tad too cold, and of course the smell of leather (new) very nice. Spacious boot, and the remote boot release just wonderful. Even my 07 crv does not have this feature.
However, tinted whatever brand it is that came with the car sucks big time. No heat reduction at all. Anyway, I already stripped off all 4 doors w/screen, front and rear w/screen and replaced with v-cool elite all round. Now it’s perfect.
Cheers.
mayb i dont understand your situation and i am sorry if u think i am accusing you….but trust me i have gone through similar situation like you…booked Persona m-line prev edition in January…loan approved in 2 week time…ask my SA to change the order to elegance when i heard elegance will came out in march…only in april i got the car…1 1/2 month after the launch…so what they stated in the brochure was 1-2 month waiting time is correct. I also not satisfied with my SA services…”lied” to me several time…but his explanation( not really like the way he explained) i counter check with i-care….and wutever he said was actually true….there was some problem with the delivery system at first…but now its ok…many have received their car… and you should really follow up with your SA….maybe its your SA problem…lazy…(that why i go to branch not dealer) thank explained to me that you had many experienced with various car…in that case you should already know that new product have longer waiting time…remember the lancer GT 8 month waiting time before…the new Honda City same case…even the old myvi have 2 month waiting time…so be patience a bit trust me its worth it…
any highline chiffon green here?
paul, there will be test drive review for persona E or not?
smga dgn komplen2,kutuk2,maki hamun ni proton akan tgkatkan prestasi…look it positif..
yg penting manufacture QA & QC x ngulatt….haw3..x sbr tgu PE aku kuar weiii…..
aku berminat lah dengan krete ni..aku nak tanya kalo beli yang h line punye baya sebulan brape ek..??? aku baru keje..umo pun muda lagi pasal loan2 ni aku kurang arif ckit..hehehehehehe…so aku just nak tau kalo beli yang h line punya baya sebulan brapa..??? kalo nak bagi in detail pun lagi bagus…thanx kepada yang sudi tolong…anyway, this is a good looking car. i’m a carholic..hahahhaha…i never see proton as a good car maker..but hey, this is our country if we dont support our own brand who will..?? and i see proton had the potential to improve…love our brand support them so they can improve in future..
Harga rm59499,deposit rm5999,loan rm53500, monthly rm674.. gud luck..=]
do u guy know that 95% of the new person E order are the Bronze Garnet colour! OMG..if thing are like this …then there will be a lots more longer time to wait for it production period..as for now there are only silver and black colour only..and that also a slow pace of production..erm think again im gonna change the colour for a silver or black..if not maybe have to wait for another 2 month…im dead waiting maybe by that time..
yakah 95% booking is Bronze where u get this info….but as my experiance in manufacturing industry if all product are same colour it should be more faster
1. because it has been reduce the changing paint and washing the paint shope time
2. reduce the procurment work task just order the same product code of paint
3. it has been reduce the wharehouse or material handling time because no need to check and segregate the different colour of paint.
If all order are same colour it should be VERY fast.
I heard that the Tanjung Malim plant can handle 5 different colour in one production line is it true?
Did the test drive using M line on last Saturday and two things that make me down
1. They took away the seat belt and frog lamp inidcator
2. Rear seat angle still quite straigh for me
any comments ?
What is a frog lamp?
sorry wrong type, is fog lamp
loan dah lama approved bln april.., kete dah ada ready stok.., brape lama lg nk tunggu? SA kata nk tggu smpai awal jun lojik ke? kete sy dah sangkut dr 14 may lg sejak shipment baru smpai.. bengang btol laa camni
Hope all you guys in long waiting make complain to Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Hal Ehwal Pengguna.
saya punya persona m line auto chiffon green gerak g trolak,perak from penang then patah balik ke penang habis pakai full tank miyk..rm 70.00..normal ke abnormal?rasa macam makan myk kuat je kerata aku ni..
mula2 memang la begitu, lama2 lps dah buat sevis dia akan improve
masa service 1000km, salesman saya suruh tuning enjin tp pusat service yang saya pg xboleh nak tune enjin sebab xdak peralatan..nak share ngan korg mmg kena tune enjin ke masa 1st service?kalo mmg kena saya nak anta keta g tmpat service yang boleh tune..tq
dah selamat sampai mline genetic silver…
Wah…bestnyer…nak tumpang…
Malamni mst tdo dalam kete ni…hehehe..
Hazxkh…Bape lame tggu?
sebulan setengah…
sabar tunggu…. dapat juga..
tips: cari dealer yang berdedikasi ngan yang terdesak shj hehe
Still confius,…. nak ambik persona elegence atau Gen2 CPS Hline ( manual
for me, go to persona elegance because a lot of improvement. even the engine still the same as iafm unit, the 32bit ecu really makes a different. had test driven both, but my personal choice in term of town performance, persona elegance. but if u always n luv to rev high, opt to gen2 cps h-line manual. if u want to buy auto one, better buy persona elegance because the new ecu is torque based ecu, match pretty well with auto tranny in persona e compare to cps ems700 load base ecu. but if manual, doesnt matter, just that the throttle lag in persona e has been reduced compare to cps one. so, ur choice mate.
I though the new Gen2 CPS (black roof) also with 32bit ECU now. any body test drive this 32bit ECU CPS Campro ?
that only your thought..
xtahu lah patut berbangga x dgn proton nih..buat keje kalahkan siput b*b*..aku dh book persona ni dh lama gila dh..tgk je kat tv3 tuh terus ak book(pertgahan mac)..loan pn dh lulus lama dh..tp keta x dapat2 jugak..apa nih proton..nk tunggu loan mati dulu ke apa..aku book h-line brilliant red..ada sapa2 dh dapat tak?call icare pn ntah apa2..tukar je la weyh jadi i dont care..senang cite..ati aku pn x sakit..
Tukar jea dgn civic i-vtec 1.8. x yah tgu lama2. Lps 2 msk bodykit mugen.
Foooh! meleleh…..
roslen.jb : utk pngetahuan, daku nih baru je keje..merasa gaji sndiri pn x sampai sthun lagi..gaji pn bukannya 5-6k.rasanya suma org thu kot bape sen sgtlah gaji ak..lgi pn aku nih bukan jenis yg suka abiskan ribu riban sebulan utk keta tengah bulan dh mkn megi..5-6 tahun lagi insyaallah..doa2kan la eyh..klu nk thu ni lah keta pertama ak (nama sendiri-sblm nih pinjam keta mak) tuh yg xcited lebih..yg dh ada 4-5 keta mgkin x kisah kot klu nk tunggu lagi setahun pn..
Klu gtu ckgu lia kna byk besabar dgn karenah proton. dlu sya order dari gong xi fa cai spi dh give up. Byk btul alasan saleman. Sya jenis yg x sabar trus sambar civic i-vtec 2.0.
Mdahan cepat dpt le ya….
hang ni sihat ke idak encik roslen? dulu kata giveup tunggu persona u sambar toyota alphard…lani u kata u sambar honda civic i-vtec 2.0 pulak???????????????
aku rasa yg sebetulnya hang x booking pun apalagi nak beli alphard or honda
aku beli 2 skali la…. X caya mai Jb. aku belanja mkn sate lolok kat tepian
tebrau. Hang nk naik ape? Civic or Alphard.
aku dgr sbb ada masalah kt elektronik kereta…klu nak hold..jangan hold H-line je…Base dengan Medium pn kene Hold.Proton jangan jual kereta bermasalah…
Persona Elegance dah cantik..jangan sampai tukar nama jadi Problem Car Elegance..
AKU DENGAR…AKU DENGAR… AKU DENGAR… tapi ko caya bulat-bulat?
Aku pun dengar Perodua Alza remuk macam tin 100plus..
aku pakai persona SE ok je.. ko ni saja tak puas hati kenapa? sebab Myvi makin teruk sales ke?
bengang: ooohh..sebab tu ke h-line x kuar2 sampai sekarang..?tak tahu la pulak..klu btl lah..yang proton tuh pn banggang jugak tuh pe kes..lain kali cek suma bagi complete before launching..after launching tuh x yah nk cek sana cek sini..upgrade sana sini dah..terus jual..tak boleh ke nk buat keje tuh suma b4 launching..cek lah pe yg patut nk d cek tuh..x de lah menyusahkan org..
mee: actly dulu ak book se..then persona e kuar..ak tukar lah..lgipn persona se kan dah stop pengeluaran dia..yg kutuk mengutuk ni bukan sbb x puas ati dgn kereta tuh..tp ak sgt x puas ati ngn service dia yg mcm apa ntah..ni blm dapat keta lagi..dh dapat nanti wallahuallam lah service tuh mcm mana..mak ak pn dh bising2 suh tukar myvi je..tp klu tukar kompem2 lah interest loan tuh ikut kadar semasa..(skrg dh naik compare ngn loan ak dulu) menyusahkan org btllah proton nih..mcm ni ke nk suruh bangga ngn kereta jenama sendiri??
ikot la cakap mak ko tu…tukar jer myvi….tunggu la lagi dua bulan…kuikuikui…member aku order myvi dah berbulan2 x dapat g…dia order b4 launch persona E lg…
cik bengang…mmg aritu ada issue ECU…sbb tu delivery delay….dah settle…ok la jgk dapat detect problem b4 benda jd parah….macam toyota nun…aku pakai elegance dah lebih sebulan…x der pape pon…ada la minor punya halll…aku g service org proton service dah settlekan….siap 2 minggu pas servis personally cal aku tanya problem tu jd lg x….ok jer service….x yah la misleading org ngan rumour…ok bai…
ckgu lia…bawak bersabar…aku book kete dari bln 1 g….dapat tgh bulan 4…mmg la lama….tp hasil penantian tu berbaloi2…cayer la
yelah…kat dungun terengganu dh terlepas 1 tapi kena tarik balik…
saler kereta tu jg yg beritahu aku…
buat complain to Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Hal Ehwal Pengguna.
Persona Elegance memang cantik..tapi sayang…
Tiap-tiap minggu kena hantar Proton servis..umur kereta xsampai 1 bulan…sistem elektronik dah FAIL…2 org beli.. 2 2 terima nasib sama…apalh malang nasib…
Complain problem kat proton i.care memang tak guna, sebab actual work style sama je macam i.don’t.care
Those in i.don’t.care maybe dah pekak badak. Orang complain buat tak dengar je.
Ada sesiapa yang tahu e-mail MD dia?
smallfish: yup..ak pn geram jugak ngan proton i care nih..call pun reti cakap..cik sila tunggu 2 minggu lagi..call lagi 2 minggu..sila tunggu 2 minggu lagi..tu je ke yg dia org reti cakap..pas tu cakap nanti kami update..nanti tuh bila..bg thu la tarikh..nk update tahun 2015 pn lantak lah..yg penting tarikh..bila tanya reti jawab x pasti..abis tu apa yg korang pasti weyh..ke nak tunggu benda nih masuk paper dulu baru nak pasti..ak mmg cukup angin gila lah dgn i care nih..tukar la weyh..x sesuai i care tuh..tukar i dont care..senang cite..ak pon awl2 lagi x call..
aku tabik dengan technician i-care pahang..hanafiah…
kereta aku jem kt muazam pkl 1.30pg..dia baru sudah repair kereta exora kt kuala pilah tapi sanggup drive malam2 nak pi tolong aku kt muazam…walaupun aku kena tido 5 jam dlm kereta nak tunggu dia sampai….cakap pn dgn berhemah walaupun aku tenggah HOT masa tu…
Wa tabik lu hanafiah…
1st time i got air-cond problem, now got wiper water no work….next service will go repair it…..
0oo..jz pull out only
you oredi add water or not…pity you…my persona no major problem
sure got put water inside la….but still cannot work, really dun wan go proton work solve the problem, because need to wait so long…..today will go workshop reapir it….
complain to Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Hal Ehwal Pengguna.
Proton need to improve their CRM (Customer Relationship Management) system.
No Interaction with client at all.
When the car can be delivered, nobody knows.
No system to keep track.
That’s why i said i will never call them i see what will happend then and bring this to Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Hal Ehwal Pengguna.
proton should have blog… with recent update and don’t tell lies
BTW I’m happy drive my new persona …. ;-D
lambat lg ke kerete ni nak sampai. Sy tempah bulan 3 ari tu. tp x sampai2 lg H-LIne briliant red saya.. bantulah saya
sama lah kita
50k to buy persona.. okay loh..
Bros..i got a problem with my H-line Persona (old version).i bought it last November.after a couple of months of use, i noticed that a faint screeching sound will come from the front wheels after driving for about 20 minutes. The sound won’t come straight away when I start driving and it will usually disappear if I stop the car for a couple of minutes. Whenever I brought the car to SC, the sound will misteriously go missing when the mechanic test drove my car. This is quite frustrating. Do any of you guys have any idea on the cause of this faint screeching sound? Perhaps I can tell the SC guys on where to look during my next visit.
is it the front wheel sound or it sound like a whistling sound? if whistling sound, i think it come from gb but dont worry, it is the notmal sound from mitsu gearbox. but if not, it seems a little bit complicated since the sound appear suddenly n disappear also in sudden. if its involve the front wheel, maybe u can ask them to retighten the absorber, check the disc n pad, check n retighten all screws around that area
dah pergi kedah-jb (pergi dan balik)…. meter 1700km (blom buat servis 1000km lagi)
review.
ade bunyi brek depan yang pelik + x brapa nak emergency brek lg….
tapi nvh bleh tahan
petrol rm 130 one way (xder komen) + meter minyak tu kdg2 bleh turun laju tetiba..
80-120 km/j shj
habis review… dah nak kena cari sc (1700 km lor)
bahaya tuh servis jauh lebih dari sepatutnya, byk ngat. bukan aper, bleh void warranty..anyway, harap2 proton xkisah menda tuh
betul2…service kena on-time kalau xnak warranty void…rugi ooo kalau kena…5 tahun..
Hi.. hazkh…
Tumpang tanye….
Meter minyak lum sampai E tapi lampu dah nyala …memang cam tu ke , normal ke ?…coz my previous wira lepas E baru lampunye nyala…saya baru 5 hari dpt PE…first isi RM83.00 (full) ari nie lampu dah nyala..tp jarum lum sampai ” E ” ….
dgr kata reserve tank bleh pergi 60km lagi, walaupun lampu dah menyala, pastu meternye pun blom lepas E juga.
x tahu la normal ke tidak,
nak tanya kepada sesapa orifice valve tu apa f(x)nyer
read the manual 1st..it said that once your fuel in the tank reach 8L or less, the fuel indicator will lite up..thats mean, if 6.6L can go around 100 km (ideally but not necessarily true), then 60 km would be within reach..
Soalan,
Berapakah kapasiti tank keta anda?
1 litre of Ron 95 bleh pi bape jauh?
FYI – 6.6 litre (for auto) can go for 100km, and 6.0 litre for manual. (Can see from the brocure)
So, if ur car is 45 litre per tank, it can go for 750km… but, like Paultan said, its hard to get the factory figures.
If im not mistaken, Proton fuel gauge / sensot is not accurate as Perodua.
Thanks very much MAT for the recommendations. The sound seems to be comparable to a screeching sound, like metal grinding into each other. Its pitch is quite high and some of my older friends were not able to hear it (due to the high frequency i guess). It is more evident when I rolled the front windows down and I am quite sure it comes from the front wheels. I will ask the SC guys to retightened everything at the front wheels in my next visit.
booked PE on early of May now already got the car last saturday (less than a month)..so far the only problem is the remote key..no big deal..will get it fix on 1st 1000km service..overall..puas ati maa..
cepatnyer…
Awak beli kat mane?
Warna ape?
in putrajaya..silver colour H-Line..they oso hv Brilliant red in store now..the SA is very gud..at least he kept me informed on my car booking status..
congratz proton!!
Hi santo, u order kt putrajaya? bole tau tak kt precint brp? tq
OMG….my Persona H-line got air-cond problem again….so bore face it again…..
what kind of problem bro?
suddently got, suddentlly dint have air-cond….last time also like that…now come again….i think tomorrow will take it to proton workshop….if wanna put the car around 3 days…i think will too bad for me, because i dint have car can use any more….what can i do…..
I book a Persona E medium line(AT) last 29th April 2010. I dapat kereta 27th May 2010. Consider ok or not in terms of delivery duration even though I myself delay a week submitting required documents. Awek sales advisor die pon boleh tahan..:)…hehe
guys,
daku ingin bertanya..
persona e manual b-line aku bjaya aku dapat pada 28/4/2010. sehingga arini, aku dah pun bawak sejauh 7850km (hasil dari keje aku yg slalu outstation). aku dah pun buat servis yang ke 2 iaitu 5000km.
beberapa ketidakpuasan ati aku tercetus apabila:
1- bila aku masuk gear 1 dan 2, bila air cond menyentap on (ada bunyi ‘tak’), keta aku jadi berat sikit. pada aku, itu normal. tapi, bila aku rev rpm shingga 3000, bunyi ekon bergaung kuatnya. keta takla pegi mana pun. rasa berat gila. silap2 kalo kat trafic light tu, boleh mati enjin. awal2 dulu ok je.
2- bila aku tekan brek, akan ade bunyi ‘tak..tak..tak..’ kat roda belakang sebelah kiri sampaila keta tu betol2 berenti. ape bende bunyi tu ye? ade tikus mati tesepit ke kat dram brek belakang tu??
3- kat blower air cond yang kat tengah. kalo aku tak pasang radio, rase macam ade bunyi je kat dlm blower ekon tu. takla kuat, cume disturbing…
4- bila aku nak belok ke kanan, kalo jalan tu tak bumpy tak rata, aku rase macam ade besi nak tetanggal je kawasan driveshaft dan suspension belah kiri depan..ni mmg ajaib. wira lama aku pun tak jadi camtu..
kepada korang, tolong xplain kat aku ye. sesape foreman tu lagi bagus. snang sikit aku nak counter kalo SC cakap ‘yang ni biaselah’..
aku suke persona e ni..siyes..jadi aku lbh gumbira kalo mslah ni tiada..
masalah 1, bunyi compressor aircond memang normal bila dia kick, n akan trasa power lost bila kompressor kick in, api bunyi bergaung aircond pada 3000rpm, itu confius ckit coz kalu bunyi enjin, biasalah, kalu bunyi aircond, makin rev makin kuat, itu luarbiasa. suruh sc check.
masalah kedua, hantar sc tukar bearing drum brake blakang. kebiasaannya menda tuh yg bunyi.
masalah 3, bunyi berdesing kat blower aircond tuh, srh foreman check kipas blower, ada kes dulu,kipas blower tuh hitting metal part kat dalam enjin, so bunyi ckit, so suruh di adjust/tukar
masalah 4, xpasti samaada anda xbiasa dengan steering feedback@x. kalu xbiasa, memang kalu generasi proton yg baru(wira generasi lama), memang rasa feedback pada steering, kalu jalan ada pasir pun bleh rasa, jalan xrata, n mcm2 lagi bleh rasa dari steering input.
tapi kalu dah biasa dengan lotus ride n handling, cuba suruh diaorang retigthen sumer skru, kadang bunyi wayar solenoid valve hitting body kete. suruh jer diorang cek, kalu diorang malas, amik nama diaorang, cal icare, bgtau, pastu bambu jer foreman tuh. di wajib cek.
alhamdulillah..thanks kerana bagi pandangan. ko tau tak MAT, aku punya tak puas hati, aku test persona e member aku. mmg lain la. dia punya lagi ringan dan lagi senyap bila ekon kick in.
papepun thanks..nanti aku bawak pegi SC, aku inform feedback diorang.
thanks so much.
elo,
i nak tanye u guys.i baru dapat my persona yesterday. disebabkan i mengada amik manual, i rase clutch dia keras la. nak tanya u all, boleh ejas ke clutch ni yea?
persona E has metal grey color or not? proton edar website state they have metal grey color but they did not state the color in their brochure.
hi friends…
saya baru seminggu dpt persona Hline auto dan ada beberapa soalan nak tanya…
a) skrg baru 990km tapi duit minyak dah habis rm220….apasal teruk sgt???
b) sewaktu melepaskan brek mesti ada bunyi ‘ ghreeek’ sampai saya lpskan brek baru diam..kenapa? bising dok kat luar keta pun bleh dengar.
c) bila nak unlock/lock kena tinggikan kunci baru (angkat tangan lebih paras bahu) boleh buka/kunci walaupun dari jarak 3m..nmpk mcm mengada-ngada la pulak kalau org tengok
so..ada sesiapa boleh tlg jawab? TQ
kalukan ikut jumlah duit tuh n kiloometer, oklah untuk kete yg masih ketat enjin dia, lama2, kuranglah, auto memang kuatckit, kalu drive dlm bandor, 10l/100km kira oklah, tapi kalu light foot, bleh dapat 7-8l/100km.
kereta aku pun sama,minyak rasa kuat je makan..diorg ckp lama2 ok..tp nak lama mana pun xtau..bunyi brek pun sama…dok bunyi bila lepas brek..hantar service diorg ckp normal sebab kereta baru..lama2 ok..wtf!
memang gituh, aku pun pkai campro. waja 2005. xcaya, tanyalah yg pakai exora ke, persona ker, lama2, dia turunlah, tapi xdalah dari 10l/100km jadi 5l/100km, so xyah beli vivalah kalu cam2. namapun kete auto, expect mcmmana lagi. biasanya akan turun dari 10l ke 9-8l/100km. kalu light foot dapat 8-7l/100km.. savvy aku pun dapat antara 7-8l/100km, tapi bawak lajulah, kalu bawak besa, dapat 7-6l/100km, tapi kalu jadi pemandu berhemah, dapat ler 6-5l/km
tp yg brake tuh gilah check. suruh diaorang check bearing brake
dah antar service suh cek break..dia ckp normal..ntah pepe
Hey all.. I’ve booked my persona e m-line auto on 18th march in cheras.. I asked for green chiffon as 1st choice or bronze garnet as 2nd choice.. I’ve been calling my SA since mid of may and until yesterday, she said both colors are not in yet for M-line auto.. It’s okay for me to wait for the car and I’ve never “bising” to her but yesterday she told me that I hafta take the black color one if there’s no new batch come in by this friday.. I hafta, because my loan application will be expired next 2 weeks (which i got it for 3.75% and i dun wanna apply a new one for 4.0%).
I dun wanna push her so much. What i did was i called i-care and they said they can try and get the car for me if i give them the branch name.. Do u guys think i shud trust the i-care? Or shud i juz take the black color one? Please advise as i hafta make action a.s.a.p. Thanks!
if it’s 2 weeks, might be worth to get i-care to help.
i once complained to i-care that i had to replace power-window motor on my car without going through warranty claim procedure. I was on my way back to my hometown and i need it to be fixed immediately as i don’t want any problem (especially rain and smoke from lorries) during my journey. it took a long time, but i got my money back.
for your case, maybe they really can help you quickly.
I’ve already called i-care, even my SA suggested me to do so.. But all they can say is that they will assign an officer to follow up my case after 3 working days. Then i said, that will be next monday and i dun have that much time. At least if they can follow up faster and give me the chassis number, i can proceed with registration and everything. Why need to wait for 3 working days, then only investigate? But the girl said she cannot do anything, only following procedure
Hi dru,
If i’m not mistaken, all colours already came out. Even the RED colour high-line already in the proton’s showroom. I saw lots of bronze garnet m-line in the showroom as well. Pls keep complaining until u get your choice of colour. But if u dun mind to get a black colour car, jz go ahead. You decide….
Hv a nice day!!!!
Really? Hmmm.. I’ve been pushing my SA to get at least the bronze one. But she said she only has bronze color for manual, not for auto. And she has been searching around from other dealers also. Nowadays I’ve been calling her everyday. I also called i-care everyday, just pushing them to follow up my complaint faster.
Regarding fuel consumption for Hi-Line, if drive at 115 ~ 120 kmh, 6.8L/100Km,
Kalu bawak 90kmh 6.4L/100KM – for RON95. Kalu guna RON97, tambah lebih kurang 0.5L lagi.
smallfish…what is ur FC when u got the car??mine is 8 above and until now still 8 above..i’m driving below 120km/h & sometime i’m not using my aircond..even when i drive to highway,the FC still same..already service for second time,the FC still not change..do u think my FC has a problem??my car really used so much fuel..
Hi everyone,
I’m going to book a new PE HL within this week to lock in the old HP interest rate of 3.75% for 5 years loan. My friend introduces me to a 2nd hand cars dealer who also happen to sell new cars. She bought her Myvi some years ago from him. Can I trust him?
Please advice. Thanks a lot.
Oh ya,
He can give better discount (RM550 more) than the normal showroom salesmen.
Thanks
as long all documents are correct, why not
previously i was made aware that i could get RM500 if i introduce a friend to buy Wira from certain dealer (not proton / eon) and RM1000 for Perdana. probably they’re reducing their commission and pass it up to the introducer.
i just test drive three cars this morning. persona elegance manual, persona elegance auto and waja cps manual. for me, power delivery and gear change for persona elegance auto is better and smooth than previous persona. but still not impressive compared tu my wife perodua viva manual 1000cc. for persona elegance manual, i feel the car just have slightly better power than auto version. this is not what i expect from 1.6 car. i can feel huge lag in gear one. my wife viva manual has much much better pickup in gear one and two. i can’t see any huge improvement with the new ecu. even the salesgirl said persona elegance is more on accessories changes. then i try waja cps manual. i can say this car is the best in power delivery when in low rpm, better pickup. but sorry if i say cps pickup in gear one and two still cant match with viva manual. i know that viva is in different segment, but i wrote it just for the sake of comparison.
weight of the car need to be considered as well. power to weight ratio:
viva = 60hp or 45kW / 780kg = 0.058kW/kg
myvi = 64kW / 955kg = 0.067kW/kg
persona = 110hp or 82kW / 1245kg = 0.066kW/kg
bare in mind, those are maximum output at very high rpm (usually over 6000rpm) and you rarely rev until 6000rpm under normal circumstance. in my opinion, in much lighter car (viva), of course you can have faster pick-up, given the fact that the different in power to weight ratio is only around 0.01kW/kg.
it just because of the feeling due to when u rev the viva, u can see the rpm shoot up high, and because of its size n weight, u feel it is fast than it shud, to test it fairly, test it by dragging the car side by side or test it sprint time. shall we
if just talk the talk, let us walk the walk also with facts n figure, this is just power n torque to weight ratio, not the sprint time. thats why perodua nowadays dont want to mentioned century sprint time because may malaysian easily fooled or conned by them by thinking if perodua=daihatsu= toyota= reliability, power n safety.
to be exact, viva 60hp/810kg= 74hp pertonne
meanwhile persona e 110hp/1245= 88hp pertonne
in otherwords persona elegance has 14hp more pertonne compare to viva 1.0. not only that, viva is 3 pots engine versus 4 pots, so r u kidding me?
even on torque, viva 90nm/810kg=111nm pertonne
persona elegance 148nm/1245kg=119nm pertonne,
and if u r saying this viva 1.0 better than cps, thats ridicolous,
gen2 cps 125hp/1245=100hp pertonne, that is 26 more hp than the viva…
i agree with u MAT
Seriau talking without using his brain
y u compare between persona n viva?
y u dont want to compare viva and yamaha 125<–its a bike
1000cc vs 125cc
y that yamaha 125 can go faster than viva
go home and study 1st before u wanna make urself look like a fool
*actually look like a fool already..LOL..
the fuel light indicator is blinking non stop when i test drive persona elegance manual, showing that fuel is really low. the salesgirl said that is the reason why i feel no power and huge lag in gear one. i dont know if she is true. i ask her to fill in petrol, but she said the car already have customer and cannot drive outside proton centre area. test drive unit dont have manual version. so sad.
Hmm…very nice car expecially the rear!much better than Vios and City!but WHY so many people complains about the new Persona?Aircoon and Enjine problems!that’s why so many ppl prefer the Perodua coz Perodua is the best choice with lower price!Proton should improve their quality and not just the good performance!
So far pakai wife guna PE x der problem..bawak hari tu pun okey gak rasa..mgkn sebelum nie bawak kenari manual…mgkn terasa best la dpt bawak 1.6 auto hi-line…dapat pun cepat..hari selasa byr dwpymnt dpt isnin mggu depan…sbb line down hr khamis…klu tidak mgkn dpt hr jumaat, salesman pn okey, sggup bagi keta dia klu x kuar hr isnin tu….long distance x pernah lagi…tp response tu agak terasa ..sebab nk jalan yg berbukit terasa amat mudah, cabin senyap, berbanding kenari sy yg lama, mcm ader ribut pasir melanda bila bawak laju…rating okey…nk beli mahal2 x mampu….janji anak2 selesa cukup ler, dgn but yg luas +nice handling, klu kenari balik raya, peh!!!..rasa mcm main puzzle nk susun barang, tapi minyak giler jimat…overall kira not bad la….
perhhh…..itu dah kira ok, book tak sampai seminggu lebih dah dapat keta,
Sy book B-Line Auto on end of april untill now , belum dapat lg…..
Sabarrr jealah…..
abcde12345….why you being so offensive? i already mention that i compare to viva just for the sake of comparison. so that people have something to refer. i know about power to weight ratio and viva just 3 cylinders engine. but it will be more helpfull if i said car A is less power than car B, rather than just said car A is no power. and bear in mind that i just comment on gear 1 and 2 performance only. not overall performance.
hi seriau,dont get angry…ur r entitle to give ur opinion.
for me it just my own opinion.
no offense on viva versus pe, but it is the same as i drive my savvy, i feel savvy is faster than my waja, but it is only the feel, becausei did test draging them side by side, rev it to the max, but still cannot beat my own waja. the reason is because of psycological effect or but o meter :=), to made it clear, this is my opinion…in my case, i feel savvy is faster because when it is faster revving to the red line, example, first gear 6000rpm@40-50kmh, but for my waja 6000rpm@60-70kmh. my achieve my redline in first gear in savvy faster then waja n it feel fast, but actually the speed is around 40-50kmh, even i already change to the second gear, my waja still in first gear, still not reach the red line but bear in ur mind, the speed to reach the redline is 60-70kmh, greater than my savvy.
but u r entitle fir ur own opinion, and i’m also,
but mine, opinion come with testing side by side(drag it along) same goes if i drive my savvy, 3500rpm is 110kmh but my waja 2700rpm 110. so it fell longer to reach speed in waja according to rpm, but in real world test, it isnt.
about viva, have driven it also, feel light, like can catch up speed fast, but when do the timing, it is not that fast actually. but this is only my opinion…peace no war
but savvy surely fast… saya drive peugeot 160km/h… selamber ja savvy potong… dulu pon pernah gak kena tapau ngan savvy masa drive gen2 170km/h… savvy ni bentuk ja pelik.. dari segi rupa memang myvi cantik lagi…. tapi bagus.. sekali try, macam best ja… kakak housemate saya guna myvi, holiday kat langkawi…. sewa savvy… balik ja terus booking savvy… sekarang ni myvi dia dah jual kat housemate(adik dia) saya… housemate saya pon cakap, dia kalau balik penang, memang myvi tu x gerak… nak keluar ja mesti pinjam savvy kakak dia… dia kata seronok drive… ayah dia yg pakai waja pon selalu naik savvy….
viva pon boleh tahan… ada viva pernah potong saya kat highway kl seremban.. masa tu saya drive 140km/h.. kejap ja dah hilang.. rasanya dalam 160++km/h gak la speed dia tu…
im using viva 850 met black TAR3**0.. 140 – 150kmh on LPT r normal 4 my precious bibah.. n i love her.. but also, today, i oredi booked PE m-line MT tranq_black QTG9***, hope will get it very s0on insyaAllah (great car with great handling to cruise on tricky r0ad into Bakun area, blieve me.. pedalaman br0..).. hihi.. s little bro to bibah.. n will love both of it.. very very very much..!! my request.. stop arguing.. start thinking.. both r malaysia’s products.. tp kan, sape lagik yg nk kutuk barangan tempatan kalo bukan kiter2 ni.. kan? sape lagik yg nk sokong barangan luar kalo bukan kiter2 ni.. kan? urm.. :-p
by the way, viva manual 0-100 12.8 scnd, persona e manual 0-100 11.5 scnd, gen2 cps manual 10.5scnd.just some info to share.
haha.. suddenly i become the one that angry. you people must stop judging others and please do not read others comments with your own tone. i shared my opinion honestly and chose nice words that supposedly should not hurt anybody.
i’m not the person that like to rev car to redline. i believe in pressing pedal lighty and changing gear to the top gear as fast as possible to save fuel. that’s my style of driving. i normally only reach 40-50 km/h in 2nd gear. that’s the range of pickup that i talked about. but after your long explanation…i’m not saying you are wrong.
by the way, i read the review in funtasticko website. are you the same mat?
yup bro, the same person, nice knowing u…even on the net…maybe someday can have tt 2gether
yeah u hav right to compare pesona to viva. atleast me n other people that own viva will benefit something from ur opinion. if people juz compare pesona to wira or vios or city…of course i cant imagine it at all becoz i dont have all the cars.haha. sharing is caring.
i don’t have knowledge about what MAT has said (all the facts and figures) but i have driven both persona and viva. i must to say viva has better pickup in lower gear. no kidding!
could be true.
but just as i mentioned, those figures are maximum output and usually at very high RPM (probably around 6000-7000RPM). campro has much more power (hp) compared to viva, but bare in mind too, viva is 30% lighter than persona. you feel that viva pickup faster because viva is much lighter. try install campro into viva then test the pickup… once campro speeding and gain the momentum, there’s no way viva can beat it.
no need to install campro into viva lah. i did not condemn campro. i did not say campro is less power than dvvt. i just said that lighter viva is more pickup than heavy persona in lower gear. that’s it. that was what i feel when i drove both cars. if you can’t accept it, it’s ok. i do not consider the difference on size and weight of both cars. i just share what i feel on the pickup. TQ
i dont like viva
no class at all
my brother using it
i feel like i wanna scream forever
damn damn small
if accident all become like canned of sardines
i dont know that twin airbag function or not when accident happen to the driver
maybe that airbag only use for decoration instead of safety purpose
*for the sake of oppinion
xper la kalau PE kalah bab gear 1,2 ..
cuba kalo gear 3,4 @ topspeed..
rasanya ratio gear/sproket? dibuat macam tu, untuk save minyak la.x running at high rpm@lower gear.
p/s macam compare ex5 ngan wave125 pulak.
xyah nk banding persona n viva.. bw kereta seelok mungkin… laju2 nk wat per.. sekali sekala ok la.. tak kan tiap2 hari nk bwk laju. pemandu biasa akan bw average 100km/h tiap2 hari.. even viva pun ada yg baawak samapi 130km/h.. dah cukup laju utk keter kecik.. janji selesa bawak jangan bawak laju smapi melayang nyawa org… LIKE VIOS VS MYVI..(women died in myvi coz vios drive to fast in drunk mode)
xyah nk banding persona n viva.. bw kereta seelok mungkin… laju2 nk wat per.. sekali sekala ok la..pemandu biasa akan bw average 100km/h tiap2 hari.. even viva pun ada yg bawak samapi 130km/h.. dah cukup laju utk keter kecik.. janji selesa bawak
jangan bawak laju smapi melayang nyawa org… LIKE VIOS VS MYVI..(women died in myvi coz vios drive to fast in drunk mode)
semua orang perlu tahu bezakan kete laju atau tidak, kalu dah speed 140kmh mmg laju. kalu dari 0 ke 100m.. antara viva dan persona… mana sampai dulu??
kat highway persona,myvi,spectra,rexora dan lavina cucuk ke civic aku.. hahaha…. lawak tu la.. tak payah la bang.. buang karen aje… bukan nak kutuk tapi kena ada kesedaran skit bawak kete tu.. kena sedar kemampuan kereta ada.. pastikan SISTEM BREK ANDA, TAYAR ANDA DAN SEMUA ASPEK BILA BAWAK KERETA LAJU2..
sekadar peringat…
Viva light weight so starting torque of the engine is more than enough to push the car hardly, Persona is heavy infact it is more heavy than Civic, Vios, Sentra (this is the disadvantage of Proton car much more heavy ) so the Campro engine has to be tune to more torque instead of speed at the begining of rpm.
However once the momentum pick up the Campro will be actively in speed. This is the engine tuning curve to suit the car weight.
By spec the Persona of cause will smoke the VIva at the end of top speed.
You can try to retune the Campro as Viva pick up, but at the end you might not getting like original maximun speed and the fuel consumption will be more higher.
The default tuning curve from factory is determin by consideration of few factor including car weight, speed, emission, fuel consumption, engine part working life time safety regulation and others factor, thats why the road car and race car are different.
You might see lot of workshop do this modofication around us but at the end the car owner will sufer their own car engine damaged, high fuel consumption so and so. then they start to complain the car manufacturer produce bad quality car.
After trying PE for a week.
Found minor problems
1) Central lock jam (2 times)
2) Door cannot open from inside (1 time)
Need to visit SC again.
Are these two problem always happened to PE or any other brand cars ?
door cannot open from inside is because child lock…to unlock…take a look at the side of the door…there is a switch to unlock it….or u can always read the manual….for your first problem…can u elaborate a little bit more
second problem solved, thanks.
first problem is when lock/unlock, the one of the rear central lock knob jammed
i guess it another safety feature….if iam not mistaken there is a button at the driver door that u can push to lock the rear door central lock, what i mean if u push that button only driver side door will lock and unlock…the other door central lock will not function…if its still happen complaint to SC during your service visit…a minor problem i would say.
yup,it is the u shape. put the tape around it. n one more, tighten the screw between the u shape.hopefully it solve ur prob.
Dont such comment lah…Proton have 5 yers warranty, why u all scare about this..
We are not scare… just don wan any defect at all… we don have time and luxury to go to the sc again and again…
Order H-Line silver on 17 May 10, today informed by SA that my h-line will be delayed, because proton said it on hold to give way for the remaining old model persona to be clear. Is it true?
saya dh dpt PE 3 minggu lepas…dan telah wat 1st service (1000km) cuma ade satu masalah yg wujud,iaitu kalo saya drive over 100km/h bunyi whistling mcm “nyittttttttttt” akan wujud…masalah ini wujud sebelum saya lakukan 1st service…lagi laju bwk lagi kuat bnyi…dh antr g SC..dia ckp body work.dia ckp ade angin masuk melalui pintu..tp dh lepas antar dan repair pun ada bnyi lg…any idea??…yang lain xde masalah besar…good handling…good NVH…fuel consumption kuat skit…
Byk jugak komen positif/negatif tentang PE ni..aku rasa mana2 kete pun mmg ada masalah. kdg2 bila dh byk sgt baca komen negatif pasal kereta proton, kita akan jadi paranoid.
tapi yg betul2 menghadapi masalah dgn kete proton dorng tu, mmg xbleh nk ckp ape. kdg2 pegi SC pun xbleh nk selesai masalah tu. mmg dugaan tu. tp yg dpt kereta proton yg xde masalah, mmg korang sgt2 bernasib baik.korg yg akan menjadi penulis testimoni yg baik ttg proton utk menentang basher2 proton.
Nampknya ramai jgak yg xdpt kete PE ni lg terutamanya yg HLine…aku pun tak pasti masalah ni berpunca dari siapa. kalau ikut pengalaman aku beli kete proton ni, aku rasa ada SA yg suka ckp putar belit kt pelanggannya.Mungkin bkn semua SA yg xjujur, tp kdgkala mereka memberikan alasan/sebab2 yg kdgkala yg xmasuk akal. aku pun tak tahu nk salahkan pihak mana, tp perkara2 mcm ni pun bleh menjejaskan proton sendiri. Org xkan salahkan SA tu kemudian hari, tp org akan nmpk keburukan proton!cuba bygkan,dhlah tunggu kereta berbulan2, tiba2 dpt kete ada plak problem2 sana sini. tu yg buat pelanggan lg marah dan rasa tertipu.
hi guys..
i just want to ask..why
??? after my car died accidentally and when i restart the car my rpm meter go crazy between 1k and 2k..and when i pump the minyak,nothing..zero..no respond at all..i have to wait a while before start the car again..this happen at a sloppy terrain..
Hi there, i pun had the same problem after 2 days received my car from dealer, i sent to SC and they can’t fix till the technician from centre of exellence advise them on how to do it and re-fix again and here are my complaint and report from SC:
Complaint:
1) To Check engine indicator light on while driving and engine RPM continuously goes up and down at the time stuck at 2000.
Action:
Found due to engine wiring harness
-connector pin poor contact.
-Refit correctly and reset E.C.U
Result:
Has been tested by technical assistant – OK
I think u should send your car to the nearest SC or COSE (near Kesas Highway) they have special crew for this kind of problem.
Now my car OK so far, and hopefully it will NEVER happen again. But FC quit high la.hmm will see after 1000km service, hope it will become better.
It depend la on your luck.. fyi i had been using BLM for about 2 years now. masalah spring suspension belakang je yg lembut skit, dah tukar rim 16′ bila full load lalu jln bumping road tayar kadang2 gesel ngan body. tukar spring keras skit setel. really satisfied with the value.
tq bro for the advise..fc will decrease after 1000km service..according to my experience lar after i service my car..
Hangpa tau kutuk je. patutnya bangga sebab boleh keluarkan kereta sendiri. jangan ikut org, kot yer pun guna kereta luar bukanya tak rosak. bukan depa nak canang kat dunia, woi keta aku rosak. bersepah honda rosak. awat tak bising satu dunia.
klu dpt free tarak sapa nk kutuk la
masalahnya keta nih kna bli
x kn rosak nk dok diam ja
aku ada degree in marketing
setahu aku customer x salah sikit pun klu nk wat complain
sbb customer bayar
the price that customer paid must meet the value of the product
klu sringgit dua ringgit tarak hal la beb
nih harga 59k
*think about it
Betul tu, aku sokong apa yg abcde cakap…
Secara logiknya, kenapa P2 yg lbh kurang sama harga less mslh berbanding P1? Ko pk la sendiri…
btol ke p2 kurang masalah bro…fact mana dapat ni…ko keje servis P2 ke bro…jgn percaye sgt ngan pe yg ko dgr….ko baca…
P2 dont have their own tech… they jus rebadge n rebadge.. thats why hv no prob.. but i heard still hv a prob…
Aku tech bidang auto la… sama2 membesar dgn kwn aku yg sama2 blaja kat IKM dlm bidang auto…
Dia keje P2, aku keje kat P1, dia sendiri ngaku memang kurang mslh berbanding P1 la…
hi
need help from everyone
my fren want to by this PE
she apply the loan from bank islam
they said the process take 2 weeks to approve
is it true?
Enuf waiting, as promise by my SA 4-6 weeks to deliver my car(H-Line) and now already 2 months exactly! I am going to cancel my booking,wasted my 2 months!Really dissapointed & piss off with all the crab reason given!Can’t deliver then pls don promised to the customer. Started chasing during the third week til now(8 weeks).Keep giving empty promised!That’s it,i am really pissed off and going to cancel!
I kind of putting a last hope to call up the i care,there will revert within 3 working day. Hope Proton really take action to deliver my car,else just forget it and CANCEL IT !!!
Erm….da book 19 may aritu…
Tp SA kate kene tggu 1-2 bulan…
aritu msg SA kate sempat x dapat sebelum 28 june…
Tp dia kate tak leh janji sbb org yang book awal pun belum dapat…
Nak push2 cam takut nampak sgt gelojoh n xsabar…
Agak2, kene tggu pas 2 bulan ke baru push?
Ke patutnya push je skrg?
Tp kat sini ade je yg leh dapat awal…
ape masalahnyer ye?
Dia distribute kereta ikut tempat sikit2 ke camne ye?ape prosedur pengagihan kereta ye?
Just nak tau,..thanks…
Aku book 9 april aritu lagi. sampai skang lom dpt2. brapa kali da aku msg, call n pg sndr jmp SA tp dia gtau pngeluaran h-line terhad. nak plak warna yang aku nak tu.. Bronze Garnet. Jem!!!!
Bro….barang baik bro…of coz lambat sket….aku rasa untuk persona elegance ni diorang dah under estimate demand pembeli….mgkn order dh lebih dari pe yg diorang estimate masa feasibility study….lgpon mmg ramai minat elegance ni aku tgk….
Erm….da book 19 may aritu…
Tp SA kate kene tggu 1-2 bulan…
aritu msg SA kate sempat x dapat sebelum 28 june…
Tp dia kate tak leh janji sbb org yang book awal pun belum dapat…
Nak push2 cam takut nampak sgt gelojoh n xsabar…
Agak2, kene tggu pas 2 bulan ke baru push? (Push aje, bg diorang pressure sikit, nak keje rilek macam gov, lemak la… u jgk yg sengsara nanti…)
Ke patutnya push je skrg? (PUSH SKRG)
Tp kat sini ade je yg leh dapat awal…
ape masalahnyer ye? (Mslhnya diorang lembab, dan selalu tak update customer yg dah book)
Dia distribute kereta ikut tempat sikit2 ke camne ye?ape prosedur pengagihan kereta ye? (No komen)
Just nak tau,..thanks…
Push aje skrg… nanti kalau interests dah naik… mati u nanti…
Please dun push the SA or Proton too hard.
Afraid of repeat the Foxconn tragedy.
Aku berurusan dlm akhir bulan april pasal nak beli keta persona elegance nie..keta lama dah jual…dah hampir 2 bln aku tak ade keta… bayangkalah…tension jea jea…
ingatkan beli lketa baru cepat sampai…..sampai sekarang belum terima lg….
tiap2 minggu aku call salesman., tp apa dia orang sabar jealah nanti sampailah…
mesti dapat punya…..
Hi semua, I duduk area putrajaya/sepang, boleh sape2 tolong recommendkan SA bdekatan yg bagus (up to date). Tq
Klw u nak bley gi kt Proton COE kt tepi Kesas Highway…
I dah beli 3 buah keta proton kt situ…. so far ok la… x de la lama sgt tunggu…
klw nak beli e-mail je i…
received call from my salesman, he said received memo from proton..might be some of the elegance have to recall back on this July..but dunno why, dia tak cakap pasal apa..and is only for certain production..hopefully tak kena masa tarikh prod. my PE..wish that..
yeke??risau plak..at the moment kereta aku xda la msalah selain dari alarm dok bunyi 5 kali..dah repair masa 1st service..foreman cakap hon terlalu rapat dgn bonet..fc mengecewakan..harap2 dia racall back tuk kurangkan fc..
i hope so..minyak memang terasa laju sangat habisnyer..walhal jalan tak jauh mana pun..kalau dorang nak recall pun harap yang boleh menjimatkan FC
keta korang tu, baru sangat lagi…. sabar sikit… enjin iafm korang sama ngan iafm persona aku 2 tahun lepas… lepas 1,000km, korang akan nampak fc dia turun sikit2… iafm auto aku sekarang ni bagi bacaan 6.9l/100km….
satu trick utk turunkan fc korang…. drive persona korang utk long journey dan cuba maintain speed dlm 110-120km/h… pasti fc korang akan turun punya… tak caya, try..
booking dah lama……tak dapt lg
booking early may, got PE M Line AT at end May.
Bronze.
Affin Islamic, 3.9%
Before 1000km, FC 8.9l/km.
After 1000km / FC 8.3l/km.
Is this acceptable?
kata my salesman sepatutunya 6.8 kan, kalau more than that maknanya kita yang guna banyak..ntahlah
Mine one 9.7 l/km before 1K km today
hopefully it will going down after 1K km service
mine 8.4 l/km plateau..
I’m not an expert in anywhere but this is my opinion based on my driving knowledge and experience.
I hope that is 8.3 litre per 100km or else your car is really in trouble. It’s about 11 to 12km per litre which is acceptable. The figure quoted on their brochure or website of 6.9 litres per 100km is only achieveable if you don’t switch on the air-cond and constantly driving around 80-90km per hour on flat road.
The interest rate you getting of 3.9% depends on how many % of financing and years of financing. I’m guessing you took 90% financing with 7 years. The lesser % of financing and the fewer years of financing will get lower interest rate.
back at alor star they only offer 4% on brochure.
then i requested for 3.9% and they recommended affin.
at first, i’m going for conventional (unintentionally).
but then i change to affin islamic. till 3.9%.
but the diffrence is when late poayment,
conventional charge 8% x monthly payment x days of late payment / (365 days).
while islamic only charge 1%.
this is 9 yrs with 10% downpayment.
persona iafm auto aku masa first 1,000km bagi reading about 9.8l/100km. lepas first service, dia gradually turun. selepas hampir 2 tahun pakai, hari2 kena lanyak kat jb town & outstation ke melaka, pahang & kl, fc aku sekarang 6.9l/100km. kalau dia naik pun, paling tinggi, 7.0l/100km.
terbukti, iafm memang save kan fc. asal jangan kau lanyak 160-180km/h hari2 udah le… aku bawak kat hiway pun paling tinggi 120km/h je… sesekali aje lepas gian bawak lebih dari tu…
mana 1 nak pilih,waja @ pesona ek,tolong kawan2
uish.. definitely depends on budget. waja probably will be around 80-90K, but have more features and Lancer scores 5 stars euro ncap rating.
wch,
my Persona Elegance normally drive is 9.0-11.0 per 100km. in air cond on, and drive in 100km/h. since i drive on high speed, 12.0-19.9L per 100km. speed is 140km/h-160km/h. 6.9l per 100km only will exist when down hill,remove my foot on pedal. some more pick up or over take, the rpm always up to 5k-6k rpm, but the speed still the same. beside that, pedal and engine movement will delay , then make the car no power, fuel consumption very bad.
i already send to proton service center at ss15, beside catex petrol station there checking 2 time. but the service manager (kk) say this is normal. 20sen per kilometer is normal for vehicle. i dont think so him know what they saying actually. ( him tot i am driving porches.
i already make an appointment next week, sending my Persona Elegance to proton ( beside KESAS ) doing inspection , turning, calibration throttle and pedal, complain seat noise, complain engine die off when take Conner and high fuel consumption. .
better they dont waste my time and need me go back there few time.
Alex,
Definately your PE got some FC problem (19.9 litres per 100km?) if you driving highway all the time. But the way you drive on high rev, 20sen per km is quite normal, that’s about 10.25km per litre.
I seldom drive above 5k rpm (FC is not ideal) so I have no idea on that. But reading of what you have commented, definately your PE may have some problems. Good luck on the service at Kesas centre. As far as I know, the service there is better but taking longer time.
i’m driving a gen2 hi-line campro 1.6 (4 years oredi).
with my style of driving;
for city (KL-PJ) approx is 9.0 l/100km @ stop&go traffic.
for hiway approx is 8.8 l/100km @160km/h, 7.3 l/100km @120km/h.
FC depends on driving style.
do u know that the FC tripmeter can be reset?
To my surprise after i log a complaint to i care after 2 months i still not receiving my car from the dealer. Proton actually look into this case but answer seems like surprice to me ,there Still can’t confirm when the car is available for me!
But good news is only i make a commment to my SA say i will be cancel the booking if i still don see my car coming after 2months time that originally promised by 4-6 weeks time. I will be getting my car within a week frm now. But not the color that i want,somore i giv them 2 choice of color when booking time. Now seems like i need to take the color that i don wan 
but what to do just take it to avoid waiting somemore 
(((((((
I’m sad to hear this case happening, when proton has a manufacturing plant which could produce 1 million cars annually. In theory, they should be able to produce 80,000 cars per month, but they failed to fulfil 8000 booking?
My guess is that they already planned Persona replacement by 2012, and that’s why they’re not investing more money to increase production of Persona…
are u sure tg malim plant capable of 1mil car per year?…
you could refer to the info from proton itself:
http://www.proton.com/about_proton/press/full_details.php?intArticleID=20
they could produce 1 million cars, but i believe it also depend on how many machine they have to produce that specific model. their target could be 5000 unit of Persona permonth only but now booking is 8000 permonth. and maybe they’re not investing more machine for persona because new model will come out in 2 years…?
Sound like a huge amount to me for producing a mil a year!But could Proton really can deliver that?
here’s the info from proton itself:
http://www.proton.com/about_proton/press/full_details.php?intArticleID=20
they could produce 1 million cars, but i believe it also depend on how many machine they have to produce that specific model. their target could be 5000 unit of Persona permonth only but now booking is 8000 permonth. and maybe they’re not investing more machine for persona because new model will come out in 2 years…?
Hi Tarzan,
The proton i-care so-called investigation officer only called me up 11 days after I logged my complaint. By that time, I already agreed to take PE M-line auto in Black color for the sake of not losing 3.75% interest rate (9 years) with the bank (it’s not my choice of color, more to “terpaksa terima”). He said that they have HUGE demand on chiffon green and bronze garnet, that’s why we couldn’t get those colors. But I’m not sure whether they really produce chiffon green and who are among the chosen ones that got these colors, cos I haven’t seen any chiffon green on the road yet. I also complained (again) that the process for k1, jpj registration is taking more than one week. He said that it’s not normal, but he couldn’t do anything about it. I still haven’t got my car yet. I only hope that when I got it, there’ll be no huge probs. So my advice to you, this is just phase one. Be prepared for the second phase of torture (registration)
DRU,thanks for your info. As of this stage i already have my chasis number and agreed with the SA i will getting my car this Thursday.HOpefully everything goes well!Just cross the fingers!
hey.. tarzan… glad to see your news of your car again..
still haven’t get your pe?
wat color they offer to you?
i will get it tomorrow and i already have the chasis no few days back and just now purposely goes to the branch and already saw my car with the number plate fixed. My color now is Silver.My original choice are Chiffon Green and Bronze Garnet. And due to no stock for the color that i want and i force to take dis to avoid waiting sumore!
Tarzan, i got my black PE last monday. To be honest, i like the color, it makes the car looks more elegant. Well, besides all the disappointments, i should feel happy and excited with my car, rite? LOL! The driving so far was great. But i made myself looked stupid yesterday. I couldn’t open the passenger door from inside while the engine is dead. I thought it was spoilt. So i straight away called my SA, set an appointment to repair the door. Then suddenly she asked me again, which door. Then i told her it’s the back passenger’s door. Well, it turned out to be that the child lock was on -_-” So guys, take this as a good reminder.
DRU, ok wil takenote of that
Thanks.
i think proton still not worth car to have it..the fuel consumption still bad..prefer to buy perodua…eheheh..
bila kereta elektrik Proton dilancar.. telan la labik ludah ko tu.. eheheh
alo kawan, aku pakai persona iafm auto, boleh cecah fc 6.8l/100km. nak save camne lagi? hari2 lanyak dalam town dan travel outstation dah dekat 2 tahun… sesuai la ngan cc 1.6… kau nak compare ngan perodua viva yg 1.1cc tu, hagak2 la sikit!!!
Hmm, seriau pulak nk beli elegance ni, ramai sgt asik kene kuar masuk workshop, ape kes mcm ni..ishhh
beli jela honda ke toyota ke volvo ke bmw ke… sekali rosak tak main ratus2 rm..RM ribu terus hehe..
mana2 jenama pun sama.. yang penting WARRANTY…
pakai keta jepun yg second hand pun, kalau takde warranty, naya ooo… gearbox/enjin recond pun 5ribu rm tu main2 je..hehe
so, belilah kereta jepun @ jepun wannabe
aha…betul..tu..beli je kete import kalu rasa mampu….service /rosak ..ribu-riban..x main ar ratus2 ni… ..
ala kete import pun ade gak problem cuma…org x perbesarkan..cam abg ipar saye baru 3 minggu pakai Honda City ..dah accident coz BRAKE NOT FUNCTION…he..he..mana kualitinye….
kereta aku da pakai seminggu lebih OK je. xde masalah langsung. Mula2 je risau dengan FC dia cecah 12L/100km tp lepas da naik highway KL-melaka sekarang ni dah turun 8.9L/100km. Aku harap FC akan turun lagi lepas 1000km service nanti
if you salary is around 2K, the car price should below 40K
if your salary is around 3K ~ 4K, the car price should below 60K
if your salary is around 5K ~ 10K, the car price can be 80K ~ 100K
This is my car buying criteria.
Car will depreciate. Property and Family will not depreciate.
So far saya pakai PE setakat hari nie ok jek
Bunianzz,how long you have use the PE?Care to share?TQ
hai semua…
…after 1st service hari tu
1. FC dah ok dari sebelumnya…
2. pasal bunyi brek yg kuat tu diaorg ckp biase le brg local…ada ka patut jwb mcm tu?
skrg ni aku ada problem besar…kunci keta hilang so skrg ni tinggal 1 je (hilang di kilang)…nak tanya apa patut aku buat? kalau buat satu set semua sekali baru nnt alarm dah tak bleh pakai katanya….kalau setkan semula kod kunci yg sedia ada ni nnt org yg jumpa kunci tu still bleh buka pintu keta walaupun x bleh start enjin…apa pandangan netters yg bijak pandai semua ni???
aku confius, hilang kat kilang tmpt ko kerja ke atau hilang kat kilang proton?
kalau hilang kat tmpt kerja, try la bagi rewards kepada sesapa yg memulangkannye… ala, buat simple poster je mcm yg org slalu buat kalau pets hilang
kalau tak jumpa, then better replace sebab org yg jumpa kunci tu tau kereta ko ada kat kilang setiap hari… dia bleh gi parking and try bukak semua kereta Persona yg dia jumpa.
hilang kat kilang tempat husband keja..so selagi xjumpa or xsettle pasal kunci baru aku xbenarkan dia bw keta tu ke tempat keja…naik moto je la..selalunya kalau cuti sklh dia bw keta ke kilang sbb aku keja cikgu
dah buat announcement xde rezeki nak jumpa semula kunci tu
aha betul ckp mofaz tu… replace je kunci tu ..sayang kete ke syg alarm ?..he..he.he.
sayang keta yg ada alarm la hehe
alarm keta proton ada kod no. dia. bawak kunci spare gi service dealer, diorang boleh tengok kod no. tu & buat kunci yg baru. sediakan lah bayarannya. aku berani cakap ni pasal kunci waja aku hilang dulu, service dealer aku wat camtu… tak perlu tukar whole set alarm tu…
haha..dorng tu da tak larat nak jawab benda yang same..nape bunyi..nape bunyi..nape bunyi..so jwb bese la..maksud die..kualiti barang tu..brake pad..disc..mcm2 la rosaknye..huhu..bunyi takpe..jgn langsung tak fungsi..pkai carbon ceramic la..hehe..
nk tanye skt….
lampu blakang PE ro bwh tu nyale time ble….???
kt atas jalan time mlm nmpk lampu LED je yg nyale…
time brek pn lmpu LED & lampu brek je yg nyale…
Aku xda wang yang banyak..jadi pilihan aku kereta yang paling murah tp berkuasa..jadi aku pilih la SAGA cz enjin 1.3…nak amik VIVA tapi agak kecil dan berenjin 1.0..harga pn lebih kurang je…(ini kes kereta paling murah ok..jgn tanya kenapa x angkat MYVI or PERSONA)setakat rosak beli kereta ape pn mesti rosak….nak yang berkualiti tp xda duit baik xyah xakap banyak2…kereta untuk keperluan..kena beli gak walau ada mcm2 masalah..senang cite beli ikut kemampuan..banyak lagi nak pakai duit..setakat beli kereta mahal2 tp asyik bertukar2 je baik xyah..xyah la nak compare2 sgt..
p/s:kagum gila tengok Persona Elegance time membelok..nampak gagah..keh..keh..keh..
Yesterday my SA finally call me and offer me Red or Silver colour deliver in 1 week time i book on mid April at Puchong, but my choice was Bronze i insist with Bronze but he said he can’t give any date for Bronze.
I found Silver looks nicer than Bronze.
if Silver color, the rear looks like Mercedes Benz.
If Proton can facelift the front look like BMW, this Persona exterior is almost ‘Perfect’.
You can experience Lotus ride & handling when cornering while speeding
silver pun cantik ma…i punya bronze tp asyik jumpa kaler bronze je bila selisih dgn PE
guys…
any proton dealer near kajang…
im looking high line n dont mind about color..
however, my nearest place told me i need to wait 1 1/2 ~ 2 month if im booking tomorrow..
try go direct to proton edar, not agent. the best could be in COE near Proton factory along Kesas highway.
maybe can get in less than a month….
today i visited proton edar at kesas highway…
what a surprise to me… they even dun have highline display persona model..
asking about availbility… taking around 2~3 month…
wahhh…. high demand for highline?????….
proton marketing guys never do the job?… no forecast????
FINALLY, i got my car after a long waiting! Awesome!So far so good…..Just got tinted as well…Hopefully my car wont giv me much problem.Will see how much the FC later.
congrats….
i want to ask something…
could u tell me when the red rear light will on…. (row 3)
probably never on..
you can check whether there is any bulb inside. if i’m not mistaken, lower red area on waja (termometer design) also didn’t light up.
also seen the other car lit up even on hispeed on high way…
maybe mod your self
If not mistaken, it is used as a rear foglamps when imported to other countries that requires them as standard like United Kingdom where the third light is needed in a snowy condition
This ‘trend’ started with the earliest of Waja(thermometer design), the Gen2 and Persona also got it with the 3 round interconnected design and also on the post facelift Waja
And now the PE
The Honda City’s brake light nearest to the boot lid also doesn’t illuminate, so does the previous generation Toyota Vios
Not to sure about the reasoning behind Japanese cars but with Malaysian cars, it because it is exported to other countries. (So that Proton don’t need to re-design the tail lamps again, more money needed!)
Booked my PE H-Line Bronze garnet with Black as second option at Ampang branch in early april…till now still no news on my car availability…was promised a delivery about 1 month btw…this is so disappointing…
1 quick question: since PE is now using new ECU, any reported problem so far?compatibility issues maybe?
no problem with my PE ECU after using it for 1 week. But i still don’t know what is the difference on my car performance compared to previous persona. I should test drive previous persona to feel the difference..
After driving PE three weeks, then I realize the tyre inflation pressure is at 61 psi.
Today go to adjust to the specified pressure
Front tyre is 31psi
Rear tyre is 28psi
SC guy never check for me in 1st service.
Booking PE H-Line (brilliant red)pada 22/5 dan kelmarin genap sebulan SA telefon beritahu sudah sampai kereta tetapi bukan warna seperti yang ditempah,kereta itu berwarna brown garnet.Disebabkan tidak mahu lagi menunggu,diterima juga dengan relahati.
Tak tau lah macam mana nak cakap apa masalah sebenarnya belaku pada Proton akau nak Bronze dia offer Red, orang lain nak Red dia offer Bronze. Sebenarnya Proton bukan tak boleh keluar kereta, masalah dia ialah pengagihan kereta.
Bencilah ni !!!!!!
Behind very car is a designer.
May I know who is the designer behind the PE ?
May I know his/her or the company name ?
why? you want to complain the designer?
Not complain, just admire the design team.
If I am still in my twenties, I will become an autombile designer.
Actually I am a talented designer, just no nobody discover my talent only.
lotus design n proton design team. originally from lotus.
Baru order Pesona E B-line auto.silver colour.skrg intrest dah turun,
utk 9 tahun pun dlm 3.***%.
Skrg ni tunggu jer la.bagi kau persona ok jerr.utk yg hidup sederhana,anak ramai,boleh laa.
design pun menarik.harga mampu milik.
Persona is a very very good car. Nearly perfect car for everyday use to go to work, cruising or even travelling long distance. The price is also very reasonable despite the performance, comfort, and looks. The thing that lacks a bit in this car is the Interior. I am quite dissapointed with the interior because it looks rather dull to me. Everything is too plasticky especially the dashboard. The quality is also a concern though so far I have yet to hear any major problems from my friends. Anyway, not going to talk long, enough said this car is simply the best in fact, better than the dungu Toyota Vios!
can anyone here can provide the latest interest rate for 5, 7 and 9 years?
Interest sekarang utk kereta 1.6 keatas 3.85%.
Semalam saya tanya SA Proton Bukit Rahman Putra Sg Buloh.
mula 1 ogos 2010 utk kete 1.6cc da naik jadik 4.2%..
Are you sure? Any source saying this?
dah dapat kereta semalam…
booking seminggu jer…mmg puas hati…
dapat kaler yg order plak tu…black..
terus test drive,dari melaka ke KL..tak terasa meter nak 140..
handling bagus,absorber best…langgar lubang kecik tak rasa ape…
cornering atas highway mmg terasa power..
Bro fadhil, cepat tu dlm seminggu je order, boleh tau kt mana order PE. Tq
PE kat melaka,peringgit point..
servis yang baik..
sampai tolong hantar customer pergi bank sign agreement..
After 3 months’ wait, my H-line PE finally arrived. Downside: clanking noises from rear which the SC fixed. Heard humming noise from the front. SC said something called ICM needs to be replaced. Parts will only be avaiable in 2 weeks. Hmm… doesn’t inspire confidence. However the upside is that I love driving it! For a RM60,000 car, it takes corners as good if not better than cars costing >RM100,000. Takes bumps really well, even my wife was impressed. Gear change of the auto a bit noticeable but better than my previous Inokom matrix which cost RM74,000. Good acceleration. Didn’t regret buying it although Proton can provide a better buyers’ experience by making sure there are no defects in the car. Love the aircon, cools the car almost straightaway. My son was complaining of feeling cold in the car!
did u change the ICM? do you heard the buzzing sound still? i have similar problem but change the ICm still got sound
Received H Line Auto early May, first week found clanking sound from the front right wheel (Rectified by SC) and squeck sound from the hinge of centre air con ventilator (SC applied some lubricant, but still unresolved). 7th week, sound when turning the steering, the steering oil level drop below min level, SC confirmed it is due to steering arm leakage, advised to send to SC head office at USJ for immediate action to replace the streering arm. Sigh…. dont know when the next problem will occur….really need to pray hard…
Previously i state here my FC is 8.3l/km.
now at 1500km mileage & reset meter, it is 9.4l/km.
sigh..
ruud,
-persona FC not accurate la.. u need to calculate manually to get the right FC result..
ruud,
- what i mean is…persona fc meter not accurate..
i’ve done my calc.
use Vpower shell at $2.05.
37liter can go approx 415km.
at normal driving (80kmh, 110kmh mixed)
that means 1 litre = 11 km whick 9 litre= 100km.
acceptable?
this is at mileage 1600km.
my mileage now is just 15k…but i can see that my FC improved abit compare to when the car is new…
http://carmaxspeed.blogspot.com/2010/06/proton-persona-16-m.html
persona manual highway crusing (110 km/h)
5th : 110.00Kmh / 68.32Mph @ 3090 RPM
i just got myself one of these! base line manual. no biggie on the facelift, but to be honest the quality has improved tenfolds! compared the previous persona models, this feels a lot better in comfort, interiors fastastic even! definitely a good buy for the price.
I just lov the car! No major complaint at the moment only the FC.Just service the car at 1000 km. Cost me less then RM80. Good job Proton! Hope it will last long
i’m happy to see that are satisfied persona E owners…… i’m one of the iafm persona owners also feel quite satisfied with my car .,have some minor problems only..
Just cross our fingers the car can last long
And we should happy about it !!!
Today is my PE one month anniversary.
I would like give some comments here.
PE is a good car mainly because it comes with lotus handling.
PE is facelifted successully.
What lacking in Proton car is a good engine like in VW or Toyota car.
If Proton can put in better engine, PE should be the best sedan of the year.
Still xdapat keta lagi…sedey…
Ingat nak tukar dealer….
Tp rasenyer same je kot…
Mmg h-line xbanyak production kot…
Tp bile call icare, die kate ade je production, tp kene tggu..
Depend gak dgn sa…
Sedey~~~
kalu bleh, amik dengan branch. biasanya. cpt ckit allocation car.
cuma nak tau tempat duduk penumpang belakang PE masih sama mcm dul @ ada penambahbaikan? sbb dengar member bgtau sit blkg mcm kurang selesa..
dah diadjust seating angle dia spy cndong ckit
Dari segi pemanduan dan handling kereta proton is the best.Rasa seperti pandu kereta mahal.
Any way aku prefer vios and city walaupun harga cekik darah utk kereta 1.5cc sahaja dengan spec yg minimum sebab dia guna emblem Toyota dan Honda.Itu aja.
Satu lagi yg istimewanya toyota ni hampir kebanyakkan komponen buat kat Indon dan City buat kat Siam.
Bangga aku bila pergi Indon tengok Vios yg aku guna buat teksi dan prebet sapu kat sana. Macam kereta iswara kat malaysia lah.Barulah aku sedar rupanya aku mcm org bodoh guna Vios Dugong di Malaysia.Hampehhh.
ahaha.. sbar ye encik winston..
lumrah hidup.. anyway, ada beza gak la sikit kereta honda city dr egi performance.. tp harga, tak larat laa.. haha.. lain la dah keja nanti… hehe.. tp akan tetap setia ngan proton kesayangan.. hehe.. 
simpan gak keta manja tuu…
1.6 campro is better rather thaN 1.5 VIOS OR HONDA…better price..good looking..malaysia product is better than siam n indon..pernah gak tgk mazda 3 rosak tapi pomen xleh baiki sebab keta import..baik guna keta tmpatan baiki mudah many sparepart..
aku bukan nk kutuk proton, tp aku x suka lah sbb cpt loose sana sini.. seat adjuster tu dh tercabut td.. hrp2 kwn aku x perasan
.. hehehe.. brg2 dlm gen2 nmpk mahal, tp hakikatnya murah.. plastic.. aku ketuk2 dashboard, ada buniy plastik.. adoyaii.. tp overall aku suka handling proton.. terbaek aku pernah rasa.. design pun not bad, terutama Neo, gen2 dgn persona..
oit Jazz., aku kenal ko hahahaha.hehehe betul tu Jazz aka Jezz..material dashboard dah ok..cuma bahagian door trim, brake component, tail light, yg gune material murah2..lg satu proton kene improve assembly quality..dr segi rekabentuk & performance kete dah ok..
sbb aku ade bace surat khabar, vendor proton quote harga tinggi tp bg material hampeh..
vendor making money, but proton not..
walau apepun, proton dah bg warranty lame..kire ok la tu..hahahaha
nak kete murah n performance boleh tahan, belilah proton..
nak kete mahal skit n import n quality belilah vios or honda city..
Berkat dari komen-komen yg memberangsangkan tentang Persona E, minggu lepas aku dah booking Persona E Hi-Line utk isteri aku.Harga memang murah betul dgn spec yg maxsimum.Ada Brake disc belakang, EBD, ABS, Leather seat, GPS, Auto-Cruse dan macam-macam lagilah.Yang penting aku booking color brilliant red iaitu sama dgn color Lancer GT.Harganya cuma lebih RM3,500 dari Medium line.Alaa, apa nak kesah kalau ada rosak sikit-sikit. Kalau setakat rosak lepas habis warranty dan kena caj RM1 ribu hingga 5 ribu masih tak rugi lagi.Dicampur dgn harga asal RM59,499.00 baru jadi RM65,000.00. Berbanding dgn harga Vios atau City yg dah lebih RM80,000 dgn spec yg minimum, kalau rosak boleh cicah harga lebih RM90,000. Tak berbaloi langsung utk kereta 1.5cc aja.Rasanya buat masa ni cukuplah koleksi 3 biji kereta yg aku ada iaitu Citra, Vios dan (Satria yg baru jual minggu lepas) ganti Persona E. Lepas ni tak bolehlah aku kondem kereta Vios, Naza Citra dan Persona sebab ketiga2 tu aku ada.Hehehehe.Tak seronoklah nanti.
isk, lawak sial baca korang punya komen especially komen2 s.roma. beli kereta ni nasib, kalo dpt yg takde prob, selamat la korang. kalo dpt kereta yg bernasib malang, haaa, ngadap la korang utk repair memenjang.yg penting keberkatan dari ilahi dan korang jaga maintenance kereta korang. aku pakai campro 4 1/2 tahun lgsg takde prob. tup2, ngam2 4 1/2 thn electronic prob. try kenen2 kereta import, harga 2 kali ganda drpd kereta proton, loan pun dah approve tp mahal siut nak byr bulan2.baik aku repair je kereta proton tu.isk.tepuk dada tanya poket.jgn nak kutuk2 psl org beli kereta proton.tak baik doww..nanti tak berkat.isk
same,ntg to change~
I reset my FC meter.
5.9 l / 100km with constant 80kmh without air cond.
6.2 l/ 100km with constant 80kmh with air cond.
this is 1.6 AT M line PE.
same old strategy!!!
S.roma :…yup..u r right,bro! Proton in UAE cheaper.
Aku punya waja rm66k kat sini..kat sana baru RM36.
Kepala butt!!!….aku heran kenapa proton /kerajaan masih jual kete tempatan dgn harga yg sekali ganda mahal dr tmpt lain..!!! mmg aku x paham !!! rakyat bkn nya kaya,..interest skang, tu diaaa…4%….mcm apa daa..!!! Kalau ok xpe, kor pakai cermat camner pon, paling lama 5 thn la beb,….
aku start pakai dari model kancil (kete nasional gak ni dulu) memula sekali kuar dulu 660,..aku tukar ker 850, pastu tukar ke wira,…pastu wira lagi, pastu waja ,……pastu aku x tau mana satu model aku nk naik dah…..same old fashion n problems!!!
Nak kata aku x semangat patriotik, korg tgk la kete2 yg aku pakai……seme Msian Brand…
skang padan muka aku sbb support sgt kerajaan yg sembelih rakyat sendiri……malu lah ngn negara lain, bila diaorg tanya kete proton bape RM kat sini…huhuuhuhuu…rasa nk terjun dr klcc ke bwh…..
Hi Mr.Yusof,
As what you say Bronze Garnett is damn nice…but you have to wait for at least 2 months…im getting my car next month…for Chiffon Green and Bronze Garnett, we have to wait for a little while…be passion, just make a booking fee…gud luck Mr.yusof
Ooi kalau cerita pasal UAE, pergi tinggal kat UAE, kalau boleh beli belilah, kalau tak nak…diam je la…daripada kutuk dan menghasut orang daripada beli kereta proton, baik pi buat keje masing-masing…forum ni untuk sembang pasal keluaran kereta proton…bukan nak membangga-banggakan kereta Honda,Toyota atau Nissan….PKI AYAM
kita org dekat Sabah beli 66K bro, mati nak bayar balik klu compare dekat semenanjung atau Labuan…. kan keta buatan Malaysia, mahal sangat ker kos pengangkutan tu & apa2 lah….. klu diselaraskan Semenanjung ngan Sabah/Sarawak punya harga kan baik, 1 Malaysia namanya tuh…
It has been 2 weeks since taken delivery of PE (A) B-line Silver. Very nice package although a lot of thing missing when compared with M-Line or H-Line. Had to take B-Line because of cannot wait too long and also tired of being a car begger for almost half month (previous car sold off too fast). Get the car less than 1 week. (tell salesman, apa ada stok, as long as 1.6 auto. Apa saja angkat any spec, any colour)
Missed a lot of things compared to my previous car ie wira 1.8EXi, such as ABS & EBD, Autocruise, foldable rear seats, foglamps, electric adjustment of wing mirror….. list goes on.
No complaint from the car as the first 9 days already clocked more than2k mileage. FC also good (never bother FC, isi dan jalan) and handling also nice. Fitted already tinted, next on list are foglight, sport rims (15″, 16″ or even 17″) or even steering wheel (momo kot?)
1k service report only noise from front suspension when turning. That noise settle, new noise creeps in, sigh.
For 49k, worth every sen. Good power, handling and NVH. Now, helping accessories shops making money buying more things…
One advise to all readers, buy what u can afford and enjoy. U don’t like, don’t buy. Don’t even comment. Not many people as rich as some fraction people that say P1 or P2 lousy and buy T or H. People buy VW, Porsche Audi pun tak hina kereta lain.
arini genap seminggu aku pakai pesona Elegance, seriously mmg mantap..untuk orang yg xbrape nak mampu bli kete luar negara, pesona elegance sgt best..handling diepun lagi best dr kete honda n toyota yg aku penah bawak..okla harga ngan kete die..kalo kite xsokong malaysia sape lagi nak sokong..mcm world cup gak..negara orang lain kalah,orang malaysia dok kecoh2..tula perangai sebenar rakyat malaysia..ntah ble malaysia nak mampu bersaing kalo xde sokongan dr rakyat sendiri..sempena bulan kemerdekaan yg bakal tibe..marilah kite tunjukkan semangat cintakan negara malaysia dengan membeli proton pesona elegance..hehe..
1. hi..
i sudah bawa persona campro IAMF engine 1.6AT member punya. selesa n laju. minyak pun jimat. lebih power dari kereta i gen2 tahun 2006 campro engine AT. masa tu tiada tambahan IAMF. kereta memang tiada pickup n slow. awalnya kecewa juga.
akhirnya, atas inisiatif i pakaikan/tambahkan;
a. ’surbo’ rm1++ pada laluan penapis angin (lihat iklan di
akhbar)
b. ‘fuel magnetik’ (magnet) (lihat di akhbar juga) diletakkan
pada saluran petrol (rm1++)
c. ‘vakum switch’ (engine toyota camery ada pakai) beli di
pusat servis toyota (rm1++) suruh pomen pasangkan
d. ‘I charge’ (rm550) tuk kawal pengaliran arus elektrik dlm
kereta (dibeli dari agen) dipasang pada palam pencucuh rokok
dlm kereta.
semua alat2 tersebut tuk tambah power kereta, jimat minyak n engine jadi sangat sangat senyap. dalam diam2, semua alat tersebut sudah masuk 3 tahun dlm engine kereta i. kini, i cukup berpuas hati. kereta bertambah laju naik bukit boleh senyum..pantas. tiada masaalah engine pun.
minyak, tersangatlah menjimatkan.. bayangkan i balik kpilah ke batupahat hanya rm25 sahaja.. (190km) pakai aircond.
saja nak kongsi cerita
booking 28/6/2010,loan approve 30/6/2010…hari rabu hari tu..dealer kasi tau…kete dh ade…isnin depan(12/7/2010) dh leh dpt…yeppi….
Still xde kabar lg…
Hello kwn2.. aku bru jerr submit dokumen utk loan kete Persona Elegence M-Line Auto smlm..tgh tunggu bank approve.. aku ade skit problem nie.. problem nye aku confuse nk pilih kete warne ape… actually, aku minat sgt ngn warne silver.. tp bile aku survey tnye ngn smua org rmai kate kete warne black lg smart.. nmpak executive..exclusive.. mewah n bergaya.. warne silver plak nmpk besar tp kurng menyerlah.. Korng bleh x bg aku pandangan nk pilih warne ape… aku nk kete Persona Elegence M-Line Auto aku nie nmpak lebih menyerlah warne nye pd waktu siang dan mlm.. nmpk mewah n bergaya…
kalau nak lumba bolehlah beli keta mahal kan tp kalu setakan jalanraya kat malaysia nie, proton pun boleh lar, beli mahal2 pun kalau tak boleh langsaikan hutang kat bank buat aper kan, kena tarik putih mata ahahaha… proton persona elegance nie ok lar buat yg berpendapatan sederhana, nak eksyen2 tu pikir2kan ccm bulanan boleh bayar ke TAK!!! ahahahahah
toksah le beli kaler hitam…dulu aku ade kete satria kaler hitam..adeh..susah betul nk jaga..senang nampak kotor dia..skang..aku ambik kaler silver..ha..pueh ati..nampak bosa..
Isteri aku dah pakai Persona Elegance ni sejak 2 minggu lepas. Full spec warna merah. Harganya 59,000. Lebih kurang sama dengan harga waja aku 2004. Tapi PE ini lengkap semua aksesorinya termasuk ABS, Abag, GPS, kerusi kulit, skirting dan bermacam2 lagi. Byk sangat aksesori nak di senaraikan. Waja aku cuma ada sport rim, radio kaset, air cond.Aku dah bawa keta PE ni dan bila dibandingkan dgn waja ni terlalu jauh beza rasanya. PE ni senyap, pickup dan handling di selekoh pun terasa lebih baik dari waja aku. Kurang rasa gegaran dan kekasaran sebagaimana waja aku. Jadi aku rasa PE ini betul-betul berbaloi, baloi, baloi. Proton dah improve banyak. Syabas!!!
bro… tanye skt…
lampu blakang yg line bwh tu menyale time ble….
coz kt atas jln time malam… x penah nmpk n menyala….
Kalau tak salah, lampu merah barisan ketiga itu untuk lampu kabus belakang.
Contohnya, Gen2 pra-facelift dan Waja kedua-dua pra- dan pos-facelift
Rasanya untuk export contohnya United Kingdom dimana lampu kabus belakang diperlukan semasa salji
betulla.. saya punya pun sama.. x penah menyala rasanya.. saya amik elegance mline auto.. kalau dalam spec ada tulis immobilizer.. ape benda ni? boleh sapa2 tolong xplain?
awat speedometer dia cam cacat ja?….designer dia cam malas nk design aja …
Aku cadangkan pada Persona Lover Guys,
Kau ambil C-green, nampak mewah dan bergaya……
Aku punya pun Warna nie juga….he…he,,
dah gie first service ( 1000km) last week , bt mase nie keta aku tak masaalah langsung…
hello..nak cerita sikit. aku dapat kereta persona elegance M-Line AT hari rabu 30/6. Baru seminggu lebih pakai & setakat ni sangat puas hati. order kereta tak sampai sebulan dah dapat, cuma hari tu terpaksa delay sebab aku bid no. plate so kena tunggu no. plate aku beli keluar baru kereta boleh keluar. handling, acceleration, air cond, sound system semua ok. time dari pekan nenas ke johor bahru, aku try pecut (masa tu malam) meter jejak 160 km/h. tak try lagi kat highway, sure lagi lebih boleh dapat. before ni drive perdana v6 tapi tak tahan dengan FC & problem kat gearbox. perdana punya handling lagi best tapi apa pun, awek aku pun suka je naik persona baru ni. sangat selesa. next week nak pergi servis 1000 km. aku sayang persona aku
sekarang ni perdana jadi weekend car je la.
Ada sape2 leh suggestkan branch bagus kt area selangor selain Shah Alam, tq
kajang..area masjid kajang..
Wish to purchase this version of Persona…can any existing Persona Elegance driver tell me how was the fuel consumption (city drive / highway), full tank RM?? – Ron95, average full tank can go ???KM
i`m edi purchased high line persona.. its a great.. save petrol..
already change spoiler and the sport rims.. ur persona elegance really great..
i like u persona elegance.. my persona really elegance n sporty..
how can u said that the elegance save petrol??what is ur fuel consumption??mine 8.4/100km..in city drive(auto)..when i drive at highway its still the same..average i’m driving is 120km/h with a/c..
fuiyooo..8.7L/100km!!! i don’t know about elegance la..but mine (persona SE auto) maximum fc is 7.2L/100km..and minimum 5.8L/100km..with or without aircond..I think SE and elegance same IAFM engine right?? but still I think my 1.6L engine persona fc save petrol rather than my previous 7 years old kelisa with 1L engine..both fc almost the same (almost haaa..i dont mention same aaaa) but hey..1.6L campro fc almost like my old 1L engine kelisa..ok la tu..and 1 more thing, fc is depend how you drive..if u drive like a racer, well myk pun mcm racer..if u drive like an old lady, ur fc pn mcm old lady..the best way to save is to maintain ur rpm at 3000-3500..y?? because if u look at general engine fc vs rpm graph (cari kat buku budak automotive or internet ke..), the graph shows “U” curve..the lowest curse shows fc at the rpm I mentioned is the most less (dah la most, less lagi) fc in an engine..that’s what I learned la in my U la..
for those yg nak beli persona asking about handling, I tell u..handling is superb!!! very responsive!! I drove honda civic yg latest one..rsa nya persona better or maybe same la kot..but hey..persona cheaper what!! if u put strut bar at the front..lg better than that civic..tak tipu punya..body roll persona kurang, so mmg sedap..even for persona base line..I fell in love with persona bcause I drove my friend’s base line persona..now I’m using persona SE..
that’s my 2 cent la..klu salah jangan mare..cari la mklumat lain lg utk panduan..agi idup agi ngelaban pok!!
thts right fuiyoo… save petrol mean maintain ur rpm and depend about ur driving..
persona mmg best dr segi handling.. lg2 baru je wat stabilizing alignment.. mmg best giler la bila kona..
is it possible my fuel should be resetting??coz i’m just drvg 120km/h..thats is the max i’m drive..i’m really feel that my car used so many fuel..the fc should reduce time after time right??since i bought it..the fc still the same..
nak bronze atau black…
tp td sa kate merah nak masuk esok..
merah ok ke?
sbb tgk kalau warna merah proton punye cam pudar…
yg menyala sgt…kan? ape pendapat kawan2 ye?
setahu saya merah unt H-Line Jea….
A’ah…merah h-line..tp kualiti colour tu…
macam kalau tgk kat jalan, yg merah tu nampak cam pudar…
betul ke ape aku cakap ni eh?
Lagi 1, sape2 ade kawan2 kat sini yg pakai PE warna merah, boleh x email kat saya gambar kete PE warna merah..
Sbb sgt2 nak tgk yg warna merah ni, takut nyesal je kalau setuju amik warna merah…
Plz…
Just email gambar2 tu kat reenacherr@gmail.com..
Thanks a lots…
kalau amik warna merah mmg xmenyesal kalau dh mmg minat warna mrah.. sbb aku dh menyesal.. nk cpt punya pasai.. silver pun rembt gak.. tgk warna merah.. terliur.. hahaha..
i vote for red as well
kale matching ngn leather seat
mmg nmpk mahal sgt
serius beb
amik merah
klu x smart tukar ngn keta aku
bak cni warna merah tuh kt aku
kekekekeke
Broze garnet memang cantik tapi susah nak dapat!
for me, the best colors for PE are bronze garnrt and red………but i also love my Blueberry Tea Persona IAFM…..now PE don’t have this color option….
hi persona elegance owner…recently bought and driving this car for last 3 weeks. Got the car had 2 major problem. my back seat cannot bring down due to lock issue and sound coming out from the satelite fuse box. The back seat already order and waiting for replacement. But the satelite fuse box which is producing sound, change but also got sound.
Just want to ask….do you experience slight sound (buzzing electric) from below the petrol paddle??? mine is quite loud lah…i check other persona elegance also got some sound from the same place.
mine got sound as well. sound come from petrol paddle area. they came when the ignition switched .. then after the engine started, they gone.
did u change the fuse box ? i change to a new 1 but still same result
i erad from other forum, they say the cause of the eeeeee sound is from the ICM relay…most of the service centre are aware of this problem…so go to sc to repair ..
thanks moc…but what is ICM stand for?
Dear JS,
ICM – Integrated circuit m… (Dono what M is…)
Ignition Control Module
kawan aku ada 2 org pkai persona (bukan PE)
die punye FC
m line auto 6.4/100km
m line manual 5.4/100km….
servis ikut time..
member aku yg pkai manual tu test top speed kat LPT
muatan dlm kete 4 org dewasa..215kmh tu…standard x modi pe2..kire laju la tu..nk laju mn lg kn heheh….
aku bw persona ni lyn coner 110kmh stabil je..member aku kat sebelah leh tido..hati pns je hehe
Three week ago sent 7 weeks old PE to COSE due to oil leakage from the power steering rack and defect air con vent, i was advised by Proton SC branch that COSE is able to replace and repair the problem on the same day, but it end up taking me 4 hours just finished the inspection, and steering rack out of stock, so ask me to wait and make another appointment, COSE said would not take long, the most is two days and will call me to set another appointment. But three week later, i have to called up to check if the stock is ready, and sent my car there at 9am yesterday, unfortunately it took 9 hours to replace the steering rack, but the air con vent was out of stock!!!! Have to make another appointment to fix the air con vent….how can this be?
The clanking sound from front right wheel which was found on my one week old PE, got it rectified on third week by SC branch, but the clanking sound reoccur on on 8 th week..alamak… have to make another appointment with the SC branch because COSE asked to refer back the SC branch….COSE does not want to repair it….so frustrated….
In addition, got other minor defect part need to be replaced, but still waiting for the stock since two months ago…
Sign….what a COSE????? Why they never control the stock iventory well? Why it take so long to get the defect steering rack replace? Why the follow up from SC was so poor? May be they need to repair too many defective proton car nowadays after implement the 2+3 years warranty program, or doesnt have enough technician to cope the increase defect complaints.. I was told not to buy P1 car, see now what happen to me….sigh…
Normally warranty is given because manufacturer is confident about their products’s quality, but it is the other way round, wasting our valuble time, so frustrated with the service quality..
Some claimed that it is depend on our luck, but why the same common defects happen to some many new PE owner, that mean so many PE owner got bad luck…alamak…maybe our luck will change if buying car other than P1….haha…
Hai, aku pakai persona base silver…..cukup dah setahun…
Bagi aku,minyak memang jimat…g balik melaka, 115KM ( RM15),115KM(rm15).Pi keje dari pandan to kelana jaya letak RM25-30 cukup untuk seminggu.Kete dah siap letak sport rim…Cume,minor problem aku,brek biase berbunyi especially nak pi keje lepas hujan di waktu pagi.So far,bagi aku,kete ape2 pun beli mesti ade problem.Cuma,kita perlu service kete bila dah cukup masanya.Jangan pi service dgn pomen yg tangkap muat jek..benda x rosak,kate rosak…hehe….tapi yang amat menyedihkan bagi aku,mentaliti moral pengguna kereta kecik mcm viva,kelisa,myvi cukup eiksyen n berlagak bila memandu..bwk laju2,tapi x lah se gah mana pun..so, comment yg aku address kt ruangan ni harap boleh share dgn u all…hidup proton,hidup spain,hidup red giant selangor.
…saya baru saja loan Persona Elegance M-LIne. Memang senyap, luas, handling baguis & bergaya & boleh dikatakan memang puas hati tetapi masalah “buzzing sound” dekat meter speedometer ni normal kah tidak? saya mula2nya tak hirau sangat tapi shingga kini bunyi tu masih tak hilang…. patut Proton keluarkan statement berkenaan bunyi nie pasal pengguna kenderaan ini termasuk saya masih tertanya2…. kalu nak tanya mekanik dekat Pusat Servis tu, hmmmm pandai asam muka ni….
Hi Extremo M-Line, my 10 weeks old PE auto also has the buzzing sound from the sppedometer, i also wonder if it is normal… very irritating…alamak…another problems..aiyo…..
Dear TT: I am a Saga BLM owner. My car’s IAFM broke down after just 15000km mileage. I sent to SC to fix the problems and they told me the spare part out of stock and i will have to wait for 2 months if i want to fix the prolems. When i asked why i have to wait 2 months, they told me bcoz too many saga already faced the IAFM prolem. The waiting list is too long so 2 months is what they can offer.
My Q is if P1 already knew the problems(If u surf the proton saga owner club, u ‘ll be amazed about the statistic of IAFM failure, to be fair to said, 8 out of 10 car will face this problem ), why they don’t recall back the cars like what T did for their Lexus and hybrid cars? And Why they don’t produces more spare parts so that we don’t have to wait for so long in order to get the spare part?
wah lau….. so serious….8 out of 10 car will face this IAFM failure….how can it be….sigh…. i hope my 10 weeks PE auto does not carry the defect IAFM unit…
That’s what i found on-line. However, even if there wasn’t 8 out of 10 saga blm will face this IAFM failure, i’m sure there are many cases occured. In fact, yesterday i received a phone call from i-care centre asked about my recent service experience at the SC. I ask her why i have to wait so long to get my car fix and the i-care dude reply:The reason is bcoz our company will supply the parts and fix the car according to batches, and sir, u are not in recent batch, so u ll have to wait for our call again, thank you,have a nice day.
Batches? Thats proof many similar problems had occured, so many that P1 have to divide the cases into batches.
People talk a lot when T recall it’s cars but i think what T did shows us that this is a respondsible company.How about P1? Luckily P1 don’t sells their car to US, or else…
dh guna 1 minggu lebih…mantapzzzzz
Buzz sound from speedometer could be power steering leakage/lack..
To Naqal,
Its not from the steering rack la. Sum1 post here, the same issue, it coming from the new 32 Bit IC ma… the sc done something and the sound is gone.
salam sejahtera semua.. saya baru pakai PE Mline Auto..
nak tanya kawan2 semua,immobilizer tu apa benda?sebab saya tanya kat branch proton yang saya beli tu pun x dapat nak xplain.. tp saya ada kawan yang pakai BLM dan pasang immobilizer..
bentuk kad keras yang mana perlu touch pada sensor dia bau boleh start engin kereta.. kalau x touch immobilizer, x boleh start kereta walaupun pakai kunci yang sebenar..
jadi dalam spesifikasi PE baru ni, dia ada function immobilizer,tapi xde pulak saya dapat penerangan mengenai immobilizer masa ambil kereta PE hari tu.. boleh kawan2 tolong xplain tak…?
Apa gift asas yang selalu Proton edar bagi? saya saja tanyakan payung proton x boleh dapat free ke,diorang cakap sekarang dah xde gift payung…Ape je gift yang proton leh kasi sekarang? GPS pun kalau saya x tanya,memang x dapat la.. dah nak balik,saya baru perasan.. tanya pada staff dia, bukan ka spek Mline dapat GPS ke, baru la diorang nak pergi ambik.. kalau x tanya, pasang kat keta sendiri la kot..
Cik Siti,
FYI
Immobalizer – dia sejenis kad sekuriti. So klu keta awak kena curi, and the dia tak pakai kad tu, so tak bleh la nak start keta. So, tak bleh la pencuri tu nak curi keta awak.
Ada stgh immobalizer, yg akan matikan enjin slps 10 Km klu takde kad tu, mcm BMW la, tp namanya anti theft system.
en. S.Roma, saya cuma nak tahu sesape yang pakai PE skrg ni, ada tak yang tahu PE ada function immobilizer dan immobilizer jenis apa yang dipasang pada PE
Cik Siti,
Sy enggak taw !
Brand apa tah… dulu penah baca kat blog ni, tp dah lupa la… cuba u folow link2 psl proton persona sblm ni, mgkin bleh jupe…
PE ader la immobilizer. kat dlm kunci. Dia cam chip kecil, bila cucuk akan interaksi ngan chip dlm keta. Jenis tu xtau. Jenis tu xyah tau la, dgr dlm forum kata dah bole klon immobilizer tu (betul @ tak?)
ade beza ke…immobilizer dgn captor…
Hoi dolllllll……… Jangan nak merendahkan keta malaysia. Aku pakai keta jepun, aku juga pakai keta malaysia. Dulu aku pakai wira 11 tahun, x penah pun ade masalah. Ko tahu x kos maintenance dan spare parts keta jepun kalau nak di bandingkan keta malaysia. Jgn lah jadi dol sangat. Kalau kau nak beli rolls royce skalipun, proceed. Tp x baik lah merendahkan keta lain terutama keta malaysia. Kau penah jumpa x renault, volvo, merc, bmw, evo dn impreza tersadai dkt highway?????? Ape makna tu. Ingat, kat negara kita bermacam golongan ada. Pendapatan rendah, sederhana dn tinggi. Kalau ko berpendapatan tinggi, ko beli lah helikopter ke, kapal tebang ke. Ko x penah ambil tahu ke pasal toyota????? Keta dia banyak masalah dn banyak yg tlh ditarik smula……. Ada lagi org kita yg fikiran masih dijajah…..
Betul tu Encik Mamat73.. aku baca semua post.. sakit hati je.. walaupun aku pakai kete jepun.. aku ada kete proton gak.. tp xdela nk complain2.. kalau dh xsuka.. pi jual.. dan beli keta keluaran yg korg minat.. ni xabih2 blame proton proton proton.. otak kolot.. walaupun aku pakai keta honda.. tp dsbbkn aku support brgn malaysia.. aku beli gak la PE h-line.. PE yg aku beli ni.. smua aku update n service guna duit sendiri.. apa2 brg pun sama je.. moto ke.. hp ke.. laptop ke.. nk hrpkn warranty.. sama je.. xleh dihrp.. so aku suggest.. yg dh beli tu.. redha.. yg byk complain tu.. pi jual.. yg xpuas hati.. pi beli kete len..
Beruntung P1 mempunyai pelanggan mcm Encik Mamat73 dan Encik Thehaters yang betul-betul sokong kete P1. Kalau lebih ramai pelanggan mcm kamu org, ku pasti P1 akan berkembang maju. Mungkin pada masa akan datang, kita akan nampak iklan P1 bertajuk begini: P1, krt berkualiti, warranty:Tak ada, nak tukar apa-apa barang, bayar sendiri. Slogan: Sokonglah produk kami, pergi beli dan guna! Kalau ada complain,pi jual,kalau xpuas hati, pi beli kete len!
Tommy says:
19/3/2010 at 2:39 am
You dont like about it? Keep your mouth shut. We dont need to hear ur comments to live. This is not the place for you to complain. Do you think proton will bother to read your comments? No! Do you think Proton made this car for you?! NO! Its for us who still apreciates the value of being called Malaysian. Not a Malaysian trying to wear Kimono (P2).
You have problems with the price of vehicles in Malaysia? Move to other country. We’ll be glad. Proton is a young company. You cant deny it. Look at toyota, they have been there for decades, but still they do mistakes. There is no such thing as good manufacturer. Because good manufacturer is so subjective. Each manufacturers target for a specific types of customers. And these types of customers ceratinly not you. Just shush. This launching is for us. The one that apreciates. The one that need it and want it. Not you bashers. Go away.
And another one, it is what they called facelift, what do you expect from a facelift? new engine? new design? Then, that will be called a new car!
yaa..i 200% agreed wth u…those malaysian ppl don like proton car especially PERSONA…thre all very2 stupidos…I’M PROUD TO BE MALAYSIAN CITIZEN..
from 1999..i use ISWARA..
year 2004..WIRA S.E
year 2009..PERSONA..
I’M VERY2 PROUD HV THIS 3 PROTON CARS…
caya lu bro… u’re so right…. No one will bother hypocrite comments in this blog. If that particulr person wants Proton to really produce of a car for himself, y not visiting Proton to specially designed & tuned car for him? hmmmmm…. this guy is so funny. But I enjoyed my ride with my new PE…. Aramai Tii from Sabah.
Iswara memang bestlah. Iswara ku dah umur lebih 10 tahun, masih dalam keadaan mantap.Kat highway, 140km/h tak jadi masalah. Siapa cakap kete nasional tak berkualiti? Masa kat jalan raya, pandanglah betul-betul, Saga generasi pertama tu(keluaran mula dari tahun 1987) pun masih boleh nampak o.
ya Proton lama memang best sebab dia pakai engine JEPUN SAGA, Iswara, WIRA, itu pun reka bentuk chasis desing copy dari design JEPUN……tapi bila sampai WAJA datanglah banyak masalah sebab WAJA reka bebtuk buatan sendiri, PERSONA lagi masalah engine buatan sendiri chasisi dan reka bentuk pun buatan sendiri hanya satu yang best iaitu drive handling sebab teknology dari LOTUS (itu pun luar negara punya teknology).
Jangan compare dgn SAVY rekaan it dicipta bawah perundingan ikut piawaian GERMANY.
Terimalah hakikat kereta P1 belum sampai tahap international punya quality.
ini org kena mau saman ke….bawa kereta 140km/H….kalau apa2 jadi…..kereta jadi tin Milo….Oooi bw slow laa sikit.
aku dah booking keta PE 19/7/2010
SA cakap stok dah sedia ada kat dalam showroom..
yang aku takutkan:
-keta kat dalam showroom mesti dah dibelek2 ngan berpuluh2 orang
-pintu ngan bonet mesti dah buka-tutup ratus2 kali..
-macammana kalo aku dapat keta yang dah longgar2 skrunya??
tapi, tak sabar2 sgt nak tunggu keta ni kuar.. loan dah approve.. isnin ni (26/7/2010) nk sign form dah..
gen2 cps atau persona se … mana lagi selesa ?
persona se!! cehh..mentang2 pakai persona se..hahahaha..tp enjin cps best la juga klu dapat..
rupa rupanya ini org dah masalah longgar?
To anak jawa:
keta kat showroom tu biasanya yang sudah diperiksa oleh sales terutama luarannya. Maksudnya u tak payah takut dpt keta yang ada calar kecil. Dan sudah tentu, keta tu dijaga rapi oleh saleman. Tiap-tiap hari lap bersih-bersih. Berbanding dengan keta baru yang disimpan di tapak gedung, yang tiap-tiap hari kena matahari dan hujan, keta showroom tu umpama puteri yang tinggal di istana berhawa dingin. Pasal risau pintu dah buka-tutup ratus2kali, u jgn bimbang sebab salasman lagi risau berbanding u.Jadi setiap kali, ada org pergi showroom nak tengok keta, mesti ada salesman mengiringi org tu untuk memastikan tiada apa yang akan dirosakan oleh org ramai.
Bestnyer…
sy punyer smpi skrg belum dapat2 lagi..
Tggu dah 2 bulan lebih…
Aritu SA kate dah nak masuk, tp xde pun smpi skrg…
Ni dah nak puasa, ingatkan sempatla pakai kete baru nak balik kg sebelum puasa,
sian abah dah siap pasang khemah untuk lindung kereta baru anak dia ni…
Tp…xtaula…boleh pinjam nama samaran ‘ariel’ kot = tabahsabarudin…perlu tabah+sabar…huhuhu..dalam hati sedih n tertanya2 bila la nak dapat kereta..=’(
thanks sambal belacan..
amat lega hati ni.. aku dah termimpi2 naik persona..hahaha
sign agrement dgn hati yang tenang hari ni..
persona bleh speed smpai 200++ tu….dasat tuh…
apa punya turr laa keta malaysia mmg terbaik kalau tak tak mungkin la proton saga sampai skrang org masih pakai..yang hampa duk kutuk2 kereta malaysia kalau bagi free balun jugak..kalau dah rakyat malaysia tak sokong produk malaysia sapa lagi yang nak sokong..so jangan lah bergaduh..selalunya org melayu nie mmg mudah lupaaa..
susah nak ckp dgn org2 yg x tau bersyukur dgn apa yg ada…
blah la korang kutuk2 proton… ape yg korang dapat… makin bersepah2 persona kat malaysia nih….
proton ok ape… cun gak….. enjin lasak gile…. kat highway tu banyak kali aku tapau VIOS. persona aku stended je first model… belom lg cps… lagi menangis vios nak kejar… stakat problem power window tukar abes Rm70 je… apesal nak bising kat sini?? bukan problem besar2
yeah.. thts right.. starting waja n above.. p1 try to stand by his own..
kita didik anak kita supaya mnjadi engineering or designer ntk proton.. supaya mnjadi produk bermutu..
dorang yg kutuk tu sbnarnyer busuk ati jer lebih…aper ssh, kalo puah basher nie bnyk sgt duit bli la keta BMW ker…audi ker…apa barang keta jepon or keta asia…stakat pakai keta asia nie makneyer korang ukan bnyk duit pon tp blagak mcm bnyk duit..piiirahh mabok!!!
Kini sudah memandu hampir 3 minggu PE High Line .. sehingga kini tiada masalah.Satu pengalaman baru yang menyeronokkan apabila bertukar dari MyVi.Daya Pecutan yang cepat bertindak bila diperlukan.Pemanduan yang senyap serta kusyen kulit memberikan keselesaan.Dulu sebelum bertukar memang terasa agak gelisah apakah telah membuat pilihan yag tepat,tetapi kini tidak lagi menyesal malah terasa bangga apabila Malaysia berjaya mengeluarkan kereta yang setaraf dengan negara-negara luar.Syabas PROTON!
SA edar sekalian, nak tanya Jual sebiji Persona Elegance dpt berapa % komisyen?
aku ada tanya SA tmpt aku angkat PE aku
dia ckp x ikut %
PE dpt 800
exora dpt 2000
Aku tetap takmau beli kereta buatan proton..tak payah nak compare dengan kereta import la..compare dgn jiran sebelah(produa).
salam saudara sekalian.. salam 1 malaysia..
hihiih.. sukenye n senangye hati sy nie. =)
dh angkt kreta persona.. seyes mmg best giler la.. btol2 xdenyesal punyer..
seb bek la sy xangkt myvi… coz sy lg brani nk beli persona pasal makcik sy jual die punyer myvi.. rugi btol.. dh byar hampir 2taun.. duet burn cam2 jer.. huhuhuh
persona besar.. luas… penumpng pun selesa dok kt belakang.. myvi mmg hampeh giler.. seat dh la pendek.. cian sy tgk spe yg dok blakang 2.. driver mmg la sedap.. die xde dok kt blkng.. try die duk kt blakang dr a.s smpe kl.. mmg bengang giler la.. huhuhu
ape2 pun persona mmg best..! pasti anda xnyesal.. hihihihh…!
Aku dah book PE..mmg la slalu ngar complain pasal kete proton..tapi aku rasa still leh manage..hehe..xsabar nak dapat kete PE nie..hehehe
hi guys, so long thread here.. till tired to read the whole written here..
can someone tell me PERSONA FC?
for long distance(highway) and in city..
thank you
*p/s looking forward to buy Persona soon..
so far aku pakai keta PE nih ada 3 minor problem
1. pintu blkg kna hempas kuat2 bru rapat (kna p SC utk fix)
2. tmpt cucuh rokok tuh tak function (malehnya nk charge gps dlm umah, kna p SC gak utk fix)
3. seat blkg bunyi cam tikus (leh DIY)
other than that, yg aku leh puji la
1. engine quite responsive when u need it
2. handling superb, corner mmg sedap la
3. aircond cpt giler sejuk even time tgh hari yg panas
4. yg paling penting FC, keta aku leh dpt paling rendah 6.5L/100KM. aku isi RM50 petronas RON95 dan drive 3 1/2 jam from shah alam to penang. tak main2 ea. aku drive laju. aku bkn jenis drive cam kura2. smpai penang sempat drive from gelugor to batu feringghi then bru isi lain
p/s V-power responsive tp jap ja abis
betul tu bro, V-power cepat diminum oleh PE nie, aku pun heran tp biler guna jenis biasa tu, ok pulak…. adeeeiiii
hahah.. dh ckp.. persona pilihan terbaek.!
spe beli myvi pasti nyesal nyer.. seb bek la sy xjdik belik.. g refund duet booking punya la lama kna tgg.. hampeh tui.. dlu kata leh dpt cash..! urmmm.. trok toi..
Erm…
Kete belum ade kabar lg…
Yg warne merah kate dah nak dapat tu (tgk post2 aku kat atas)..
Still xdapat2 lg…
Ni dah masuk mggu ke 3 selepas dijanjikan n selepas menunggu nak dekat 3bulan..
Plate no dah nak expired..
Sabtu aritu dah call SA,
Then die suh call i-care ty nape still xdapat…
I-care kate die bg jawapan pas 3 hari bekerja..
Td, pas nak dekat 10x call i-care barulah dorg jawab..
Tp still xde jawapan, org i-care kate dorg nak call dealer dulu, then call aku balik..
Tp smpi sekarang (belum sampai sehari lg la), dorg belum call lg bgtau update..
tension sbnrnyer tggu…
kereta persona elegance mmg superb..tp bile aku nak dapat kete aku..dah nak pose dah..
Ape patut ak buat skrgni??
Guys…
Nak ty sket..
Sum insured tu ape eh?
Mana lg ok eh, auto or manual, tgh deal ngn SA ni. Besa harga bayaran bulanan kalau 10% d/payment pun hnya Rm60-Rm70 je kan, tp oil consumption ada beza ketara tak? Ada sape2 bole komen….tq
kalo ko nak pakai auto better amik H-line warna merah…cantik tau bro…selain tu, baik amik manual jer…M-line or B-line xder warna merah…merah tu warna special….warna identiti H-line…so kalo ko pakai H-line warna selain merah rasa rugilah skit…unless ko x suka warna merah…:-)
Hehehe, bronze garnet tu x mengancam ke??
berhati2 bila servis di sc…1000km diaorg tak tukar pun minyak hitam…aku kena tipu rugi duit bayar tp tak tukar pun minyak..
Guys…
Really need ur help…
Skrg sy dah ade 2 kereta dari 2 dealer yg berbeza..
1 warna bronze hline n lagi 1 merah hline
2 2 dah allocate untuk sy…
arini jugak nak kene decide yg mane nak amik..
boleh tlg x sy pilih yg mane satu lg ok..
sbb ade org kate yg merah tu cepat pudar..
Awal2 dulu mmg nak warna bronze..tp bile dealer yg pertama offer merah..cam terpakse terima n akhirnya berkenan…skrg dealer yg baru kate warne bronze dah dapat..camne ni?nak pilih mane satu?
Camne ni?betul2 belah bahagi…
which one better??
Plz…
abcde12345
1. pintu blkg kna hempas kuat2 bru rapat (kna p SC utk fix)
2. tmpt cucuh rokok tuh tak function (malehnya nk charge gps dlm umah, kna p SC gak utk fix)
3. seat blkg bunyi cam tikus (leh DIY)
Dulu gue pun ade prb cam tu gak..
Seat blkg tu u kena buka and kat lock dia u letak sealtape balut hilang bunyi..
Cucuh rokok tu u kena adjust skit baru leh..kena tepat …
tuh r pasal Aras
aku da lekat dah
skrg da ok
sunyi ja dok dlm keta
SA ckp sbb jenis foldable seat kbykn jd camtuh
bila kta wat complain camtuh kt SC
at least proton leh amik point tuh utk fix for the next production
reen, pilih mana yg bkenan ngn hati, kena tetapkn iman wooo..hehehe
assalamualaikom….
sy baru jerk bile kete pesona ….
hasil daripada rekemen yang di berikan oleh rakan saya
tetapi bile sy dapat kete pesona pelbagai msalah yang timbul…
1 dgn secara tibe2 rpm kereta sy berpusing 360 darjah..
2 pintu kereta susah untuk di tutup….
3 bnyk lagi benda yang kecil
pada pihak proton sy tau mungkin sy yang kurang bernasib baek…
sbbnya rakan sy yang menggunakan pesona tidak mengalami ape2 masalah
tapi sy kurang bernasib baek
sy nak sampai kan pendapat
pihak proton lebih perlu berhati2 dalam mengeluarkan kereta yang blom lagi utuh
atau siap sepenuhnya…
biarlah jadi pada sy yang kena…
jgn ambil mudah dalam mengeluarkan kereta… sbb boleh menimbulkan pemikiran yang tidak baek oleh pihak proton
last sy nak ucap
dalam mangement proton… sy amat kecewa.
apabila kereta yang baru sy beli..
dan pelbagai masalah yang sy terima
apabila sy mengadu pada pihak proton.
die ambil endah tak endah…..
akhirnya sy sendiri yang harus membawa kereta tersebut ke proton centre..
sy sendiri yang menceritakan masalah..
ubah lah sikap terhadap customer…
maaf sekiranya sy mengadu di sini…
assalamualaikom
sabar bro
pegi ja trus SC
bab pintu kna hempas kuat tuh pun aku dah kna gak bro
tp diorg fix dlm 5 minit ja
aku wat kt SC shah alam sek25
lgpun benda yg rosak suma minor problem ja kan
warranty kan ada 5 tahun
itu strategi proton sbnrnya
aku bg contoh dlm keja aku ea
company yg aku keja ada ada 2 department
1 brand A dan 1 brand B
brg rosak utk brand A sehari hanya dlm 40 part ja yg rosak
brg rosak utk brand B sehari minimum 700 part
so kt cni ko leh nmpk
brand A bg brg kualiti tp warranty limited 1 thn
tp utk brand B brg tarak kualiti
tp brand B bg full warranty 3 thn
maksud kt cni, klu warranty lama maksudnya diorang nk emphasize lebih kepada servis
bkn diorg taknak bg brg yg bkualiti, tp sbb faktor high volume dan costing utk cover blik
ko leh beza kan
Anybody know why PE ader 2 disk break jer kat depan? Persona lama pun sama ke?
I thought any car 1.6 and above ader 4 disc brake..
“hamba Allah”
Emm tu la, Mgmt Proton perlu lebih peka pada masalah customer, berani bertanggungjawab kalau ada kesilapan pada produk mereka sendiri, boleh amik iktibar dari car maker lelain yg berani produce kereta dan bila ada masalah, mereka tarik balik kereta.
“JayJay”
Em, tak silap saya, 2 mggu lepas saya pegi EON branch, dan SA kata PE ada 4 disc brake utk HiLine shj.. (kalau saya silap, tlg sape2 betulkn ye). Tq
ya tak ya juga bro, I heran kenapa dah facelift tp disc brake kekal yg sama, depan SAHAJA. mahal sangat ker tu? demi keselamatan rakyat Malaysia pembeli yg kuat menyokong nie, tak salah kalau bagi extra kat kita pembeli nie kan…. kepentingan pemandu bukan sahaja pada High-Line tetapi pada model2 facelift juga perlu dititikberatkan….. highline tu ada 4 disc brake pakai Turbo charged ker? ahahahhaha
aku nk tnya sape2 yg ada pngalaman.aku pg PROTON .agent proton kate 3hari dh blh dpt kete.tp kat cni aku bce mkn mse sbulan br blh dpt kete Pesona m.line?die tipu ke aku yg xphm…hehe
thanks virtuallistener …. I googled the previous persona… H line and SE jer yang ader 4 disc brake…saw it stated on the brochure.. same like PE now, 4 disc brake only for H line…
anybody has any comment on the braking capability of PE M line or B line sebab 2 disc brake? … ader problem tak?
thanks virtuallistener …. i checked the previous persona’s brochure online… confirm only H line and SE ada 4 disc brake ….. PE also the same..only H line with 4 disc brake..
anyone has any comments on 2 disc brake capability of M line or B line? ader problem tak?
i like this comment jay….. :-p
Yea…kete merah (ferrsona) dah smpi…nak tggu register…SA kate, kalau cepat esk dah leh amik…
I had my Persona Elegance (M-Line) since July, 10 & found it so comfortable to drive, quiet & very responsive especially when I floor the accelerator. Infact, when looking at Persona Elegance there’s nothing to modify to make the looks better as everything is there. A few items Proton may consider in the future upgrading such as to have a 1.6 Turbo Charged engine, better dashboard console & steering wheel. I’m still wandering as to why the seat belt indicator at the speedometer console wasn’t blinking when I’m not using putting on my seat belt & the key ignition LED wasn’t functioning not like P.Wira, when I pull the key, the ignition LED will on until a few seconds it stop. I hope to see more tiny enhancements from Proton in the near future.
Generally, I never regretted buying Proton Persona Elegance as not only it’s fuel economical yet with elegance look, I’m proud driving it anywhere I go. For this end, I hope Proton may also consider to enhance their service quality at Pusat Service Proton for their customers convenience & image. Aramai Tii..!!!
pada commentor2 yang bagi comment terbaik untuk proton,saya ucapkan syabas kah sebab anda semua tak hipokrit macam pembangkang2 laen ni…name je dok malaysia tapi kondem barang negara sendiri,endingnya dia tak sedor dia beli keta2 lain tu dari mane…dari dalam malaysia gak,cap je luar negara….eksen lebih.hipokrit la..
dah tak mampu bro jd melalak2 jer la kan ahahahaha….. biarkanlah dorang tu, baik naik bas jer klu tak mampu….
Assalamualaikum semua dan Selamat Berpuasa
Sdr JJ,
Saya dah pakai PE dah hampir 3 bulan dan alhamdulilah sampai sekarang kereta tu ok dan kalau saya nak compare dengan VIOS J type saya pun saya pasti dari segi cara bawa dan comfort long distance journey saya lebih suka PE. Cuma fuel consumption saja Vios agak dan sangat baik.Tapi handling, cornering, berat dan besar dan relax saya pasti PE.
Tentang brek pula saya nak katakan kalu di iklim malaysia begini yang ada hujan dan panas tak menentu ni better kereta kita ada 2 2nya sekali. Disk brek baik masa kering dan brek drum masa hujan. Sebenarnya brek drum as good as brek disc jugak. Cuma nampak tak cantik kan… Tapi yang penting keselamatan. Banyak yang kereta yang ke 4 4 brek disc yang terlanggar buntut kereta lain masa hujan lebat.
Jadi pada pandangan saya PE sudah cukup mantap dengan 2 drum dan 2 disc cuma yang lebih penting semua kereta sepatutnya ada ABS..ini yang sepatutnya diutarakan pada Proton.
Cheerrriioooo
Disc brek baik masa kering dan drum brek baik masa hujan. Adakah ini satu fakta yang ada bukti ataupun hanya pandangan Saudara BestGuy shj?
yep.. aku dh try bwk laju2 pastu test brek.. mmg brake disc xelok masa ujan.. skidded..
actually what he said is quite true..potensi untuk drum brake to lock is smaller than the disc brake..cars will skidded if the brakes lock..that’s why designer/engineer installed drum brake at rear..when the weight transfer during braking and the front disc break locked, the drum brake will slowed the car with the right amount of friction (the brakes for cars already been calculated for its force, that’s y JPJ saman u kaw2 if u change the break without black n white and drum break need to be serviced always haaa)..
but guys, rear disc brake or drum, that is not a big issue though..the big issue for brake is do your car at least has ABS (anti-lock braking system) or not. Even your car got only front disc brake and drums for rear but got ABS, it much much much and MUCH safer than the four disc brake without ABS..for those who said proton lousy and got no safety, FYI, nissan silvia S15 got no ABS la..for a modern sport car, no ABS??!! lousy lousy proton pun, NEO (considered sport car) ada ABS..hehehehe..I’m a very very car enthusiast..don’t care which manufacturer.. all cars and manufacturer has their own pros and cons..if you are car enthusiast, good comment is ok, condemn a car..better you naik basikal..hahahaha
Hye forumer…
Sabtu (14/08/2010) dah dapat PE aku yg ditempah pada 19/05/2010..
Syukur Alhamdullillah, walaupun ni kali pertama drive, rase sgt2 comfortable dgn kete ni..
So far, xde ape2 masalah, xde bunyi2 suem..semua ok..
Cuma, meter rpm tu naik mendadak kalau kita benti, mula2 tekan minyak xberape makan, die gerak slow je, then tetibe die melonjak ke depan n rpm naik nak cecah 4, then turun balik..sama kalau reverse, time reverse tu yg takut sket sbb tetibe je laju, cuak gak nak masuk parking umah..takut bercium dgn dinding…yg pasal rpm ni boleh fix kan?
Pastu lagi 1 pasal pintu, mmg die kedap n mantap bile tutup..tp mmg kene kuat sket eh mase tutup tu..pastu tutup kuat sket, nmpkla die absorb..mgkn camtu ke?ke kene fix jugak kat SC?
Dan yg terakhir sekali, kadang2 ade cam bunyik sket bile brek kat bahagian bawah kereta ke belakang (xpasti) terutama cam nak parking atau kereta dalam keadaan statik/xberape bergerak..masa drive ok je..ke sbb kereta baru lagi?
So, soalannye disini, yg mana satu masalah sy ni adalah normal atau semuanya perlu check kat sc untuk fix balik?
Aku teringin juga nak tukar kereta ni,nampaknya PE lah pilihan terbaik untuk aku yang mempunyai keluarga yang tak besar. So far aku memang banyak mengikuti perkembangan model ni, banyak juga perubahan yang positif telah dilakukan oleh PROTON. Aku pun terfikir juga ,beli kereta mahal2 bukan leh laju sangat pun, paling kuat kat higway pun 110 km/j. Lainla orang-orang yang tak reti bahasa malaysia yang bawa melebihi had kelajuan. Apapun, aku memang pecinta barang tempatan coz bini aku pun org tempatan. Ibarat kondem bangsa sendiri, baik aku menyokong barang buatan malaysia ni…Aku harap PROTON dapat improve semua komen2 yang leh aku kata menyemakkan ruangan ni ajer. Aku bangga dengan produk tempatan dan bersyukur menjadi rakyat malaysia yang bertuah ini.
insightful opinion on the brakes… thanks guys… one more thing, my PE is a M line.. drum brake kat belakang…. recently ader bunyi ‘tik’ ‘tik’ tik’ kat belakang bila tekan brek… that is only when the car is still… masa drive takder..when start begining of the day pun tak dek… only after I drive a while, stop kat traffic lite for example, the sound will appear… same situation anybody?
bcos of ur (spare tyre jet) behind the boot making the tik tik tik sound….hope it’s help
I’ll check on that bro…
Jay Jay..
Sya rasa u pya break sys ade problem…u kena g CS buat checking…Break kena 1st safety…go sc asap..tempo waranty masih ada
thanks Aras…hopefully they wont take the whole day…..
untuk kete yg ade 4 disc brake, mmg penting untuk kete tu ade ABS dan EBD..a MUST..maybe in future model proton akan buat improvement dan meletakkan ciri2 tersebut spec asas dan tak terhad pade H-Line je..
after all, semua terpulang pade pemandu..kalo letak ABS+EBD+VSA+ape2 huruf skali pon, kalo bawak macam orang mabuk, mmg x gune jugak..
lpas bce komen scr rawak kt atas tu,cuma 1 je nk minta…
klau bleh bank yg nk bg loan tu buat ar full loan @ longgarkn skit syarat2 utk kereta m’sia supaya ramai rakyat m’sia bli kete msia…
rse yer rmai yg leleh tgk kete persona ni (include me), tp ape daye syarat nk uat loan tu ketat sgt la…
betul2..baru pg td fikir bnda yg sama lps bbincang ngan member aku yg nak bli keter..keter Malaysia bleh tahan juga la mahal dah satu..hope that bank loan longgar la skit terutama interest tu kureng2 la skit utk keta malaysia..baru mkn laku keta malaysia..mkn laku keta malaysia, mkn byk income manufacturer..mkn byk income, mkn mampu nak buat R&D byk2..mkn mampu nak buat R&D byk2, mkn BEST la keta malaysia..bru la xda lagi manusia2 yg konon nya hebat bli keta luar negara nak komplen2..hehehehe..ANANG NGANU BALA KABAN..hehehe
Saya mmg tringin nak beli PE nie..loan pon dah approved..cuma tgh konfius bab colour nie..btol ke salesman tu ckp Metal Grey pnya colour dah x kuar..tgk kat website die ade..Tq
kekadang dorang nie bro cakap takde tp mmg ader pun, saja nak bagi habis stok lama. klu tak puas hati ngan salesman skrg tu, cari jer lah salesman lain bro yg ader warna yg u nak tu…. tak pening kepala ahahahahah… all the best!!! Aramai Ti from Sabah!
Hi, saya baru saja dapat kereta Persona berwarna hijau dalam awal bulan Ogos ni, pada sy colour memang cantik..tapi yang tak cantiknya keadaan kereta saya yang begitu saya kesali, apa tidaknya..first time nk isi minyak button kat tangki minyak tu tercabut..masa tu kami on the way fm KL to M’cca, nasib baiklah sempat isi 1/2 tank..smpi M’cca kita guna kayu untuk buka pintu tangki tank yg tak boleh terbuka..alahai apa ni?? kereta baru 3 hari dapat dah macam ni..sedih betul..lepas tu yg peliknya bila start ejen aircond automatik terpasang sendiri..kita pulak kena manually pusingkan aircond tu walaupun sebelum tu memang dah off kan button aircond tu..lagi satu bila bawa kereta sebelah malam baru perasan yang lampu salah satu di gear tak menyala..kenapa begini ya?? Proton sudah berpengalaman berpuluh tahun dlm pembuatan kereta tetapi kualiti masih sama..saya sepatutnya bangga bawa kereta buatan Malaysia tetapi sedih dgn kualitinya…
Salam,
Saya baru beli persona elegance pada 20/8/2010…skrg nak 2 minggu dah..masalahnye skrg sy punya kereta pada 29/8 tu telah berlanggar dengan kereta lain semasa saya nak parking kereta dalam kompleks danga city mall jb ni..perlanggaran tu tak kuat sebab saye mase tu nak reverse kereta, saya tgk belakang clear so saya reversela suddenly je ade keta kancil kat belakang.so bumper belakang keta saya ok..just plat je ade pecah skit.kereta kancil tu pun calar je..masalahnye skrg saya rase kereta saye nye steering macam berat je skrg..check angin tayar ok, check minyak ok..adakah pasal perlanggaran tu ?hati saya cakap tidak pasal just plat je pecah skit,,please help me
Jika kalian terasa sebarang kemusykilan, jangan fikir banyak, pergi Sc , suruh dia org check betul-betul.
salam,
saya sdh pernah memakai mobil buatan jepang (toyota, daihatsu, isuzu, suzuki) + chevrolet, semuanya ada plus minusnya (handling, akselerasi dll), thn 2008 coba persona..(test drive), karena cuma nyoba, hasil sementara cukup nyaman, trus memakai savvy = simpel, design city car ok-ok aja, saat ini memakai persona, secara keseluruhan rasanya proton + tehnologi lotus, cukup signifikan dari kualitasnya, memang terasa adalah pada perseneling ( gigi ) 1, 2 terasa berat/keras perpindahan giginya, serta rasio gigi 1,2 & 3 terasa pendek, sedangkan u/ handling ok-ok saja , memang design perlu sedikit perubahan u/ bagian belakang, karena terasa kurang jelas terlihat jika dari kaca spion dalam…secara keseluruhan proton bagus, pastinya improvement di jalankan & usia proton tdklah selama para competitor lainnya, swetiap saya naik proton, pasti ada beberapa org yg melihatnya secara tatapan mata (bisa salut, enak di liat/ baru liat secara detail)….proton kedepannya pasti lebih baik…saya yakin,
wassalam
tengok macam macam comen pasal proton. ini benci pd kereta ke, benci pd quality atau design. Perbezaan teknologi antara Buatan negara lain dgn MALAYSIA (PROTON) agak2 lebih dr 20 tahun…….english sikit…….. so PLEASE PROTON PLEASE!…upgrade cars futures for your future customers. we are looking for best vision as foreign cars…PROTON PLEASE don’t gv-up..i’m still your honer customer and may be my generation…I’m supporter to the BUATAN MALAYSIA