Proton has unveiled that Proton Inspira will be the official name for its Proton Waja replacement model, which has until now been only referred to by its internal codename, the Proton P3-90A.
The Proton Inspira is developed from a Mitsubishi Lancer with the choice of a Mitsubishi’s 4B10 1.8 litre engine with a 5-speed manual, a Mitsubishi 4B10 1.8 litre engine with a 6-speed virtual ratio CVT gearbox, or a top of the range 2.0 litre 4B11 engine with the same CVT transmission with added steering column paddle shifters.
At launch, the Inspira will have about 26% local content at launch, with the aim of raising it to 40% within the next few months and straight up to 65% within a year from the launch date once the local vendors have been fully prepped. It is built at Proton’s MVF plant.
Available in red, white, black or silver, the new Proton Inspira is now open for booking at any Proton dealer with a deposit of RM1,000. As an appreciation to early birds, Proton will be offering a 2 year (50,000km) free service package worth RM1,658 including parts and labor to those who take delivery of their brand new Proton Inspira for bookings made by the 15th of November 2010 that are delivered before the 31st of December 2010.
The tentative pricing starts from RM79,888 OTR for the 1.8 manual up to not more than RM95k for the top of the line. The 1.8 CVT will be somewhere in the middle. The official pricing will be unveiled at the official launch by the 10th of November 2010.
The photos above and after the jump provided by Proton is the only thing we can show you for now as there is an embargo that we must respect and official images will only be provided closer to the launch date in early November 2010.
Has anyone booked the Inspira yet? Be sure to read our first drive impressions!
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Man, the Mitsu Lancer GT owners are fcuked big time!!!
I think most people who own this car will convert to original mitsu lanevo x, 100% sure..
yea, and after 2 years down the road, if you still convert to evo 10, it makes you look foolish.
dun worry bro after 2 year mitsubishi evo 10, 11,12 still look the same only minor changes eg bumpers, skirting, spoiler and abit in the engine….they will change evo car every 3 version….eg evo 1,2,3 (same) 4, 5,6 (same) 7,8,9 (same) 10,11?,12?( maybe same) Evo 13 (now diff shell)…so from evo 10 to 13 maybe take 10 years to total change….thats y i like mitsui..they never change every 2 or 3 years..so my car still new version until 10 years hahahaha..not like honda…after 3-4 years then new model…and my car value will drop and cant enjoy as the latest model…huhuhu
it is quit fast to change 2-3yrs….normal for car life cycle 5-8yrs
do you know that mitsu lancer quality as not as best as you think? it yes if it evo, but lancer quality is bad.
For your information, Mitsubishi is among the lowest quality car in Japan and among most unpopular brand in Japan and those who doesnt have enuf money will buy it (in japan). The japanese dun like this brand coz of it poor of quality. So i wonder why u guys so happy to compare it to Honda City or even Civic. This Inspira use 2005 techno, but next year Honda will launch new Civic and for sure it will be the best competitor for Altis.
But i do agreed that 80k is affordable for kaki kereta to buy a hot car like Inspira. Credit to proton coz they success bring in this car to malaysian but i’m still hope Persona R will evolve better than Lancer. More power, more quality! thats the thing proton shuld aim in future!
yeah i agree with u and after that there will be the inspiralution look like the evo 10 police car huahahaha…….
exactly like me!
buy the proton inspira…..remove all proton logo and replace with mitsu one….
Even though you replace the proton logo, you still missed mitsu trademark front. It’s a smart move by proton, to ensure what ever inspira owner do on their car, it will never get closer to mitsu. Proton grill was there. Bad looking but still nice and affordable to Malaysian.
Existing Mit owners like me have to beware as our logo’s may go missing now!!!!
maybe not only your mit logo missing… becarefull coz your car will be HOT CAR for inspire owner… the must try to fill up their inspira with ori part from mit….
only dumb people replace only the proton logo with mits…smart people replace the bumper all together with mits logo…and beware lancer owner, u may wake up in the morning notice ur lancer without ur bumper, ur sport rim and ur spoiler…hahaha
so sad but quite possibly true : (
I 110% agreed with that. As a customer, u can do any modification on your car as it belong to u. If u wanted to removed the Proton’s logo & paste Mitsubishi logo also can. Alang-alang u wanted to removed Proton’s logo, u place with Brabus logo lagi baik, agar hatimu puas!!!
Anyhow, I think government should increased foreigner car tax to maximum level, says Civic 1.8cc now RM114K to RM150K ka… Vios J RM68K to RM98K. By increasing the tax, rakyat tend to switch to Proton Inspira and boleh bantu kereta nasional utk berkembang pesat dan bukan sahaja jadi kebanggaan Negara tetapi menjadi kebanggaan Rakyat jua…..
Kalau kita selalu bersifat negatif terhadap Proton (anak kita) maka proton tidak mampu banggit mengecapi zaman gemilang sebagaimana zaman WIRAnya… Kalau marahkan Proton aje, tak adillah, sedangkan adiknya Perodua dan Naza pun sama aje…..
Harapan saya agar TAX yg amat tinggi akan dikenakan ke atas Vios, City, Altis, Civic, Accord dan Camry agar tidak mampu dimiliki dan rakyat akan beralih kpd INSPIRA.
Korea dan Jepun 1 masa lalupun mengeluarkan produk low grade berbanding US tapi rakyatnya sokong syarikat tempatan dan akhirnya mereka mampu menembusi dunia….
Bukalah mata korang semua, sokonglah Proton dan banggalah kita dengan anak kita (Proton) sebab negera2 jiran kita semuanya MANDUL.. Singapura dan Thailand yg majupun tak beranak, sekadar anak tiri aje yg dipelihara.. berjayakah mereka?
Harapan I agar TAX dinaikkan dalam RM30K-RM80K bagi kereta Vios, City, Altis dan Civic. Bayangkan Vios J RM105K, siapa akan beli?
bro,pernahkah u memiliki kereta dari negara lain selain proton?saya pernah 2xmemiliki kerata nasional. rasalah qualitynya selepas 2 tahun! tahukah anda harga kereta nasional yg kita banggakan diluar negara dan quality yg mereka dapat(murah dan berquality berbanding model pasaran tempatan)-selepas melihat kawan saya beli Pro W.ra recon dari UK thn 2000 KENAPA? .sampai bila Rakyat Malaysia sendiri SUBSIDI anak negara lain.Kesimpulannya Banyak rakyat Malasyia masih SETIA pada produk sendiri DGN SYARAT QUALITY BERSERTA TEKNOLOGI TERKINI DAN HARGA NAYA.
U are so narrow minded, why do u still wanna support the fuck up proton.
They either produce low quality cars, even after consumers feedback, they still
ignore the problem and continue to provide inferior quality parts such as the
power window. They simply useless and always depend on the government.
Look at Korea’s Hyundai which started almost the same time as Proton.
They can be independent, come out many models and now even the Jap
are worried about them as they are eat up much of the market share. Proton is
always seeking for partnership, copy or use other people’s product such as the
inspira. Why need to show partially of this car and do u think we all are dumb
without knowing how the car looks like… The lancer had been around for years
now and nothing special about it.
If we continue to protect proton by thinking of increasing taxes to foreign cars,
proton will continue to be the same.
salam to all..bkan xnak sokong buatan tmpatan bro..sya sndiri mnat gile dgan persona elegan pnye design..tpi pngalaman sya sndiri,abah sya diantara yg prtama membeli persona elegan..mleleh gak air liur tgok keelegancenannyerr…tpi smpai skrg msalah msih blum slesai…hari ptama dpat kreta,saya check bumper dpan bracket patah..kne tkar di kose proton(mcmane bleh miss inspec???)pkai dlam sminggu sya detech ada msalah pda engine,slalu knocking n bnyi cengkerik ble nk start jlan…ala,mcam kete lame2 timing lari tu…lpastu rear drum brake ader noisy ble dtekan..mmang sya agak brpngalaman sbab sya dlam industri automotif hmpir 10thun jge,cme skgje dh btukar profesyen,ble sya bwa ke kose s.alam,formentu sndiri akui skgni elegan mmang ade msalah sbab proton tukar wiring n computer box made in taiwan utk cut cose..sya dberitahu sbab sy ade hbung kait gak dgan proton dulu,sbabtu die bgitau,klau org luar die xkan citernye..die kate klau wiring same dah tntu2 die tkarkan kete abah saya dgan com. box ori blik,tpi xbleh sbab wire harness xsame …last month akhirnya proton tkar gak com. box yg lain,tpi still taiwan made gak la,msalah ttap same…brbaloike bpak sya beli kreta smpai 50k tpi mngalahkan kete 2nd???…inila msalahnye,ble jualan mdeltu mletop spatutnya phak proton pkir mcmane nk bgi kualiti trbaik pada planggan setianya,bkan dok pkir nk cut cose utk mngaut keuntungan bgande..harap pihak proton kaji blik bndani…jual kete diluar hnya dpat nameje,xde untungpon,wat inspection bepuloh kali..malah rugi ader..ble jual dlam ngara sndiri dpat buat untung,jdi makesure bgi kuailiti trbaik utk planggan setia..maaf klau bahasa agak kasar..tpi itula realitinya..abah sya mbayar rm600 sebulan slama 9tahun utk dpat kualiti yg begini…..fikir2kan….salammmmmmmmmm
maybe the rims look smallm in pic, actually it;s not that small… It has the same size with what we can see in Perdana V6.. And its more comfortable compare to 17 and 18 rims… Big engine have no problem with small rims, only small engine have a problem with bigger rims.. i think only 20-30 % of the inspira owner will change the rims, and the rest is satisfied and like the 16 rims cos its more comfortable and the tyre is cheaper… Proton do something based on their research and survey…. But for me, if i buy this car, i will change the rims.. But i will still used 16inch rims, from diff brands and just a diff tyre size.. i like bigger tyre…
Duit rakyat, biarlah rakyat yg decide nak pakai apa. Sampai bila kita kena subsidise proton. Proton sepatutnye menbekalkan kereta ikut kemampuan rakyat. Bukan ikut sedap dan menharapkan perlindungan duti import dll.
Cukuplah tu,dari saga, iswara sampai wira aku kena beli. Kena pakai kete Jepun/Korea lepas nie. Biar proton bungkus. Untung2 duti import dimansuhkan lepas proton berkubur.
Baru dapat pakai keta import yg baru.
My advise is to get used Wira (Old Lancer) rather than nanggung utang for x no of years.
I am here to reply toFunny fellow that has givien shallow opinion on top.
Naik tax to about RM30 k to Civic and Vios just because you want the sales of Proton to grow up????What kind of stupid suggestion is this?
The problem for Malaysian buying foreign cars is because the quality is there!
You should be asking Proton to improve in its technology and quality so that consumer will be confident of it! Not to cheat your own and forcing the people to buy local made car by increasing the tax!
Koeran fellow buying their own product is because their automobile industry has become one of the fastest growing field! They are buying their own product because they see improvement!
Boss..org kita ni “Kaya2 belaka”..Puja2 keta luar negara..tu la dari dulu la Sy ckp..”Different People, Different Perception”..Tp, ingat la org2 luar sana..Keta ni Sampai bila kita nak kejar2 model nya…?Kita ni dah kena exploit, asyik2 nak kejar2 model baru..Nah…RASAKAN la duit kamuorg habis…haha..YG PENTING SEKARANG…PAKAI ‘IKUT BAJU UKURAN BADAN SENDIRI’..pakai keta, ikut kmampuan..Ada klebihan, pakai la apa yg kamuorg suka..Sini Sy tanya kamu semua org2 pembaca blog ni….Semua keta sama ada mahal atau murah, apa “purpose” yang paling utama….?utk bawa kita dr satu tempat ke temapt yg kita mau tuju kan…yg mewah atau canggih apa pun..tu “Value Added” utk ssiapa yg mampu…
Proton is a useless bunch of fools. They will never learn but to copy, just like the new inspira. Just look at the Koreans where they had improved so much on their Hyundai but for proton, I am sad to say it keeps on begging others car manufacturer to join venture, always proud of owning lotus and now using Lancer as their new model…
Why must the new inspira be hidden partially before the official launch? Stupid right… I don’t have to see it as Lancer had been around for more than 2 years now…
If u put Inspira & Lancer
U can see lancer imitate Inspira
Lancer look STUPID but Inspira look Smart
Agree?
proton fan will be 1 of those changing to evo body : P
rilex la…dont u worry…if the lancerians are arrogant bout their car…i bet the inspri owner [should we call the inspired =)] will feel the same…with a cheaper price…after the warranty is over…i bet people will modified this car way better than the original one in terms of the look (performance…i dont know)…malaysians are creative….MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!!hehehe
No matter how ppl convert it bcom like Mitsu… Evo or wat ever.. monster car..
If stopping at the traffic light side by side wit a ori Mitsu Lancer GT 2.0…!!!
So call Proton Lancer 1.8… better fold it up at one corner…. shame !!!!
Buy Inspira & Buy Lancer, all profits will goes to Mitshubishi, why?
Formula
Proton buy all parts, components & design from Mitshubshi
So it’s not a BIG deal, why u people is making noise?
Don’t expect to get lower price from this, because the cost of making the imitation (Inspira) is high
If u still don’t get it, please follow this formula
Inspira = inPIRATE
Inspira look Smart but Lancer look Silly
Today’s part has got short lifespan, everyone know
So, this can generate economy & Biz
Agree?
Buy Inspira, u are helping Malaysia’s economy but buy Lancer, U kill Malaysia nasional car
Do U Love Malaysia?
Dont ask what country can do for u
but just ask
what u can do for the countery
remember?
Never mind…..look like mitsu..but not same…long time ago japan copy their technolgy from europe…ha…ha… ha read the history book ….today they get great technology how 2 build car…we also like that….we not build trishaw or bicycle…u know?
Yeah, if i buy one, i would definitely change the rims. I think Proton could have done better. Other than that, it looks great.
hopefully they have 3 diff rims for 3 diff models
Yeah Virosh! Yet to see anybody anywhere ( other threads also, i mean) commending the design of the rims.
if real dusty brake pads are given, torture la to clean off the dusts from the 15 spokes. 4 rims means 60 spokes to wipe clean! Haiya.
Well Imran, looks like only you and i think that the rims need improving. Lets just hope that we don’t get dusty brake pads.
Absolutely…
And if proton is creating an R3 version, it would be wonderful if they make it a little more exclusive. Maybe a turbocharged 2.0 engine, a wide bodykit. That would be nice. Get those lancer owners jealous.
How about converting it to old Waja look???
Think Forward,Not Backward..Waja is a decade ago design
changing engine is ok
but not the badge
because there’s no LOTUS DNA WITHOUT PROTON
go PROTON!!
I think, Inspira should remain CAMPRO engine…………..
CAMPRO reflect Lotus & Lotus own by Malaysian
Everyone proud, except STUPID
So, why MIVEC?
CAMPROOOOOOOOOOOOOO……………………… By Lotus
Better performance
How is a campro better than a MIVEC??!! Campro has 110 bhp. CPS has 125 bhp. Mivec 148 bhp.
proton fan, pardon me….Lotus own by Malaysian???u double check before u put out this statement….
car lover,
Yes, Lotus owned by Proton, is there any problem? It is a British car manufacturer, however it is owned by Proton. To make this simple, Lotus is owned by Malaysia.
Yes… lotus own by malaysian…we buy their tecnology la….we buy the share in their company….so we own la… the malaysians. Better u check ur knowledge about lotus.
That ll be a good sign for Malaysian. Actually by introducing this local car (P1) can help so many local entrepreneur to be rich. Imagine how many thousand of the part & components inside Proton? If u are the vendor to supply a plate number with Proton’s sign, your cost only at RM10 but u can charge the consumer RM80, is good isn’t it?
P1 (Wira), turn how many entrepreneur to be millionaire by supply the Mitshubishi sticker?
Congratulation Proton for your Inspira, because it will create an extremely high demands for imitation Lancer bumper, butt and mitshubishi logo. I am now searching for the opportunities to supply all those parts to new Inspira owner. Not only the paint seller can get extra biz but my buddy (painter) also can get extra biz by spraying the bumper.
Sometimes I feel pity to the Lancer user + Lancer Evo owner because people might ask him “How much he/she spend to convert Inspira to Lancer/Evo where he/she paid for RM100k-RM300k for the original Lancer/Evo”
Anyhow, Malaysian is not rugi, because we pay RM79K + convert to Lancer RM5K (below RM85K) we’ll get something cost RM120K=RM300K…. This is really a Smart Guy!!!
Only STUPID will buy Mitshubishi Lancer/Evo!!!
Malaysia Boleh
Millionaire entrepreneur or should i say cronies? Blood sucking mother lovers who monopolise the market while supplying low quality parts with 9-th heaven sky high cost. Rakyats are still the biggest losers.
Just because you do not get the share of the pie, don’t butthurt please. Opportunities are there you just have to grab it. No one is stopping you in getting the share of the pie.
Instead of blaming other, if you can supply high quality parts with 9th hell deep down cost by any means please submit.
Smart people adapt. Loser will always complaint and be at the bottom of the food chain.
That’s all Proton can do. In another twenty years times ( if it is not bankrupt) we all will see the same thing and tha’s all proton can do. Do what ? do nothing but copying others technology and design, relying on fund and policy from government and continued to be a kampung car.
proton just put nice name to new car but not its quality, after bought and used within a year got engine problem . r&d and quality not good . not like proton saga first model is good. imagine after warantty ended.for new car, this problem comes again. sure burden the driver . its not to condemn but its fact . if proton using win-win concept its never happen.surely customer satisfy. but this is really unfair. its seems like pampers, wear and throw ,like china toys. last time i drove proton saga car and its good in maintenance but not new proton, beatiful name and car . i;m afraid to swicth starts its engine because another engine headache. better use proton saga. if proton use new technology and its friendly to user and its okay but if low quality spare part , its a heartache
there’s always a different between panasonic and pensonic
Yea in how it spelled only…
fuyo…really smart la u….notice….
looks like this kids did’t used pensonic or panasonic brands b4 XD
Nowadays more electrical appliance are made from same factory. Then brand label are sticked according thier customer request. U also can put ur name as ur refrigerator brand if u hv lot of money…label only different..
agree mjoe..now my company are make same product but 3 difference name.. and this name are huge…not cikai brand..its all japanese known name..
totally agree if you only talk about fan or other electrical appliances. never heard before about pensonic rebadging panasonic fan. copying, yes maybe.
rebadging /= copying
agreed. no matter how, the QC of Proton cars is big question mark here
Never buy an Inspira (or any Proton/Perodua vehicle) that is assembled during the fasting month. Ask the guys in their supply chain.. they’ll tell you that unfortunately, the quality does drop during the fasting month because there is less focus and concentration at the production floor.
huh? now still august ka?
i wonder how the quality when it reach 65% local part..sure power window cannot naik, central lock kong after a few month..proton will tarnish mitsu good name…poor mitsu..
great..!!! dis is wat proton famous in..
Central lock kong.. no problem …then use key lor… but hv u ever seen d whole key lock drop inside d door when trying to open by car key…!!! only proton car does….. may b dis is one of anti-theft feature guar.. hahaha…
and yet there are also some similarity… spelling about the same & the design also about the same
usage is 100% same
good example!!
Wonder if Satria Neo Gti rally car is gonna be replace by Inspira
Don’t think so, but by using the 4B11 in mass production means Proton can take advantage to use engines based on that for competition. Right now they base on the Renault 1.8 engine once sold for Waja.
its just a lancer, not an EVO…no way can replace satria s2000
of course they cannot. mitsu don’t allow proton to tweak their ECU… If they allow, then an Inspira can even tapau Evo anytime…
proton already upgrade handling… so it should be better than GT.
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its nonsense…….change ECU than can tapau evo? haha..joker, u better go work as P1 engineer la..sure after dis P1 car can tapau bugatti or lambor..
take my words, there are privateers out there who are already planning to floor this baby in the felda rally…
hahahaha aggre with you
Hope proton will standardized the quality of proton inspira. So that the buyer of the car is satisfied and feel worth it to pay for it. Hope proton will learn from the previous product like savvy, gen-2, waja that the quality is so bad. I support proton car because of it carried Malaysia name to around the world. also hopped the management of the proton read this comment.
Carries a bad name for Malaysia around the world.
Have you seen Top Gear’s review of Malaysian made cars by Jeremy Clarkson?
He said that our cars are worst than junk itself.
If it weren’t for Proton and its taxes, i can easily buy a Ferrari by now. Wake up please!
wake up please, I doubt you can keep up with the maintenance of ferrari even after tax reduced.. you thought it’s easy to keep? Even without tax, I doubt you can buy it, not that I imply you do not have the financial to back you up, but the waiting list for their car
It’s an example!!! Maybe not Ferrari, but an Mseries BMW or Porsche almost any model……. the list goes on. I agree with Puton…. my M5 I bought in Canada for RM250k..BRAND NEW, costs almost RM1million here!!! I also had a 1997 Boxster I bought for weekend summer fun in Canada….in 2005 paid RM40,000….. that car right now in Malaysia even it is very old already still over RM200,000…… here now so depressed with cars in this country I just buy Myvi and still cost more than my Boxster!!!
the bad comment are for perodua kelisa ler…
proton so-so je.. and i think we should really support proton. look at ferrari, they build nice car, and people around the world now think italian people are very good at designing car..
wake up la..support malaysia la sikit
v already support p1 25 years..look at Hyundai..how they grow??build car for korean, cheaper than other car, that how hyundai make the korean proud to use Hyundai brand..at least Hyundai is far infront of P1..P1 need very magic improvement and Inspira is the 1st step..v need major step!
Ya…. in your dream… That another Malaysian made “CAR”, not proton…
JC also has made junk jap car also, US car included….i wonder y org putih, the japanese, the yank still buy honda, toyota, hyundai, renault etc since they do not hav NAP..r they stupid..bcoz a guy in malaysia easily buy ferrari if no NAP, or they hav no class and this malaysian guy has very high class
Will you be afraid of Jeremy Clarkson until you die? Cay you still apply tested result for few years ago for the current build car? Jeremy Clarkson had made a big effect to your live.
JC is an idiot! he only drives super cars. knows nothing about the economics in automotive industries…
Aiyooo Jeremy pun you percaya bulat-bulat ka?
Yes can buy if you follow American prices, but can you pay American Labour charges. It costs more to maintain a car than buying one. You want to put the blame on Proton for your poor income? Can you afford a seven room house at your present salary like in the US? That’s unregulated pricing. The root cause is greed and opportunist. So why not complain for 200 plus K that all you get is 1000 sq ft of house which is too small for a family of four? Whose fault is that? You want to blame the goverment also? Ha ha ha…
Ferrari 458 got fire around the world laa… ferrari call all 458 back…every car builder have pro n con…i luv n will support proton…n tapi to all proton worker…kami yg beli kete kasi korang makan tau…jadi korang pon jangan asyik nak pakai kete import je…berbulu mata aku tgk byk pekerja proton pakai kete import kat shah alam ni…korang yg kene support barang sendiri dulu jgn asyik nak memekak suruh org lain support barang korang…kalu korang sendiri tak mo pakai…lu pikir lah sendiri….
Agreed, banyak beza between Proton and Perodua, Proton masih lagi belong to malaysians, perodua has been sold off to Toyota / Daihatsu lock stock and barrel and now jadi assembler aja.
Proton’s build quality has improved, but there is always room for improvements. I had Perodua, Proton, Suzuki, Chevrolet, BMW and semua ada masalah after you drive them off the show room. Btw all those cars are in my driveway. The big difference is macam mana you look at the problem.
Essentially ada dua, the human element, meaning perangai the owner masa kat Service Centre and how he uses the car and addresses all the problems.
Even when kereta import drop sub 100K, you think you can afford to maintain and keep them? The only so far cheap car to own nak deny ke x is still a Proton. Selagi u makan gaji regardless how much, that is still the best and easiest car to maintain.
The only reason why I have to go around in a big car is because I need to give confidence to the people outside that I have good cash flow. Cars to me is a tool to generate income. Other than that, I’d be happy to drive around in a kelisa since its so easy to park.
Right Royale = mentality problem
Wait a second RIGHT ROYALE……….
who tell u that Perodua sold to TOYOTA?
The major share holder by 30% is holding by UMW, so that the company is control by UMW
Do U know what is UMW?
UMW is NOT Toyota as UMW only a distributor of Toyota ONLY in Malaysia.
UMW is belong to Malaysian, that is why Perodua is our nasional car & enjoy lower tax
NAZA is not KIA (Kill In Accident) but Naza is own by Malaysian & distribute so many car like KIA, Peugeot and many more, including BRABUS
1 smart think of NAZA is that, they spend 0 cents in R&D building the cars but their R&D in building the LOGO
Meaning every cars bring in by NAZA will be removed their original name like KIA to be replace by NAZA. As well as Peugeot 207 change to Bestari.
By doing so, I believe your grand father who studied in sekolah pondok usang also will know how to pronoun the car name.
Else, your great grand father will “PATAH LIDAH” in pronoun the PEUGEOT name.. nanti bunyinya PEE-GEE-OOKKK pulak
Hahahaha…
I pun tak tahu pronoun Peugeout till now, still practising, hehehe
Right Royale = MLM people? CIMB Wealth Advisor?
whos Jeremy?
The great car not came from his country either..
talk cock only…
Right Royale…waaa…so many cars you have…so many cash you have…so damn rich you are…hehehe…
Well Puton, think like business man. Jeremy who? He’s making money out of that. He could say this and that, because that what TV & mag love to. Speculation & stipulation. He used to insult Porsche.
Y u people always talk non-sense about Proton, where the international people appreciate & admire Lotus so much!!
U should be proud of national car, because only Malaysia can produce local car where by our neighbor only assemble “other” people products!!!
Malaysia Boleh!!!!!
Inspira design is better then Lancer Evo
Is it wrong that I’m actually having “fun” when reading all the posts at Lancer’s Owner Forum?
Haha, Poor “original” owner…
What the hell.. Proton never learn.. how could them selling just the front end for RM80K? so we need a kereta lembu as the car body to attach to this front end.. hehe :P
I still waiting for Exora turbo. after that i will decide which 1 i will get…
Prismo,
Go and read the previous post ler (http://paultan.org/2010/10/13/proton-p3-90a-based-on-mitsubishi-lancer-preview-drive) before commenting. Just made a fool of your self…pitty you.
Paul answered most of the bashers short minded comments there.
Perhaps some Mitsu Lancer GT owners might feel a bit irk, but most will cynically smile knowing that they own the real breed than posers.
Look at it this way, if Lotus has a hand in retuning the suspenison, the Proton drives better. Proton also has addressed the CVT’s failure to engage at prolong high speed by redesinging the nose/intake and making an AT cooler which is unavailable in the Lancer. These technical improvements alone addresses some of the issues that the current Lancer has.
INSPIRA vs LANCER
Sincere Comparison
They are the same
1) Design 99% (except bumper, grill & logo)
2) Engine (same type but Inspira 2nd grade) Japanese never honest in Biz
They are difference
1) Build up quality as QC done by Donkey
2) Vendors are totally difference as they are expert in supplying defective parts, proven in WAJA (all power window problem).
3. Others components, all supply by the same LOW GRADE supplier & fix in Inspira.
Conclusion
If u are Smart Guy, I will never buy an imitation products ” name as Smart Guy” because it’s just a word that telling u are smart but actually STUPID is be actual word to represent this
U buy Lancer, u ll need to pay high price but u ll get a high quality, but if u buy Lancer, low price and do u expect high quality?
If YES, then Malaysia can make money by exporting to Thailand
there will be more “lancer” after Nov 2010… “lancer” = inspira = a joke…
After Nov 2010, so many poor & stupid man will go on the road drive a stupid car name “Smart Guy”. Orang gilapun marah dikatakan gila tetapi akan gembira bila mereka dipanggil orang cerdik. Rite?
Actually, those people who targeting to buy a car name Smart Guy are those people who are poor in RINGGIT.
Simple question to ask, if u are a millionaire, will u buy Inspira or Lancer?
So, don;t blame they are stupid but just say they are poor.
If u understand this, then u’ll understand everything.
Formula
Proton buy design & pay royalty to Mitshubishi (including the royalti from their vendors to produce imitation part with great low quality to fix in Inspira.
The MoU not allowed the Proton’s vendors to touch Mitshibushi, in the sence Not allowed Proton’s vendors to supplier to Lancer & Evo
So, don’t complain that Inspira is expensive, because BUAYA still Mitshubishi.
Don’t complain parts & component in Inspira is not lasting, because U need to support the poor vendors to generate high profits to make them to be EZ millionaire.
If you or your father or your grand father being given a license as P1 vendors, u must say Insipra is better then jaguar or Lamboghini
Wowwww…..kudos to P1, they manage to produce a car of same level as Mitsu Lancer…..kah kah kah…..
P1 can export the car to our neighbour country like SIngapore, Thailand, Brunei, Indo, Vietnam & many more country because the design is about the same as well as the engine but lower price.
If Mat Salleh prefer Air Asia rather then MAS, Do u think our neighbour prefer Inspira rather then Lancer?
Air Asia… you get what you pay for….. which is Mitsubishi
MAS, you pay for a service that you seldom get.. which is Proton
Sorry Man….. that is a bad example…. the price comparison is accurate but the product comparison is not.
I wud not say that since u knw malaysian cars have a really good reputation in giving problem.. plus, its so sad to see that proton cant even come up with their own design for the car.. They just love copying other people.
Actually, P1 has came out with their own design, such as Gen2, Waja (Tidak Wajar Beli Waja) & Also Gen 2.5 (Personal- Gen 2 ditarik ekor sikit). Do u appreciate & do u support? I guess Not, that is Y P1 fail.
If P1 came out with their own design + their own engine, u people never appreciate but when P1 be a copycat, u people get mad.
So, tell us what should P1 do?
Gulung Tikar is it?
Do u noticed, almost all P1 car has got the unique features.. U know what?
When reach the toll counter, almost all the P1 car will open the door to collect the toll ticket, unlike other car, they will open the window instead of the door. This is because they power window is working well.
My friend, he own Satria & the door only can open from out side because the inside holder is spoil.
He is always act like Mr. Bean, every time wanna go out, he need to open the window & then open the door from outside, after all the closed the window. I finally advise him send the car to P1 for the repair. Imagines cost him RM1k +++, after all he wanted to sell & get Vios J
The loan is RM30K but the value for his donkey satria is RM23K, meaning he need to loss RM7K + another RM7K for his Vios J. Total RM14k and again he has got no money.. so he remain his donkey as a donkey la….
Funny or Pity?
Aku cadangakan rakyat malaysia hantar memorandum tukar pengurusan tertinggi Proton. tukar jurutera Proton dan tukar ahli-ahli R&D Proton.
Aku dengar cerita orang atasan Proton ni ada rasa dengki tengok orang lain pakai kereta murah yang hebat, dengan lain maksud rakyat malaysia pakai kereta proton yang sehebat kereta import yang depa pakai. Bukan tiada tekabentuk dan teknologi hebat yang dicadangkan, tapi depa berbisik.. Kalau canggih dan murah, rugilah kita. Sebab depa beli kereta import tu dapat support dari siapa?? Haaa… jangan tak tau…
Itu pasailah.. depa tak kasi keluar produk bagus. Cuba hlangkan subsidi dan kurangkan taxs kereta import, baru depa insaf nak lawan product mana baik.
Kat koreapun cukai keter importnya tinggi, tapi kereta tempatannya bersaing hebat menjaga kualiti dan kehendak pelanggan.
We reached independant since 1957
All malaysian should Thanks to Proton Master Mind (4th PM), because of his idea.. Today we have Proton and how proud that we Malaysian to have a local car.
Unlike our neighbour country that too depend on foreigner car
Again, Thank You Dr.M
If all of us support Proton, Malaysia will be such a great country
In view of this, we should BAR foreigner Car via impose high TAX
What say U?
thank god i din’nt buy the misu lancer…. if not people would say its inspira… damn it!
good job proton, at least we got a nice looking proton car eventhough its similar to mitsubitshi lancer.. who cares!
Oh…my….
Been dreamed to have Lancer GT since its prelaunch…
Finally, thanks to Proton, the price is getting cheaper…
and Lotus DNAed!
But RM80K++ still to high for me to get this jerung mitsu…
Need to wait extra months to collect more money..
Lucky to thos who gets the first 1000 Inspira..
why lucky to get the first 1000 units of Inspira?
yeahh.. 74% imported and 2 yr warranty.. free labor ag..
u really trust p1 eh? u really trust mitsu part are okay ek?
are really trust on your civic? Before this, is it honda didnt have an any problem with thier part?
I don’t TRUST “Honda”, because this is a chicken brand in Japan but because of the successful advertisement by Honda Malaysia, turn this chicken to be special. By the way I don’t like Honda but Proton!!!
Malaysia Boleh!!!
RM131K for Civic 2.0
I think Japanese people will laugh at U people half dead
RM95K for 2.0 Inspira, really a Smar
@proton fan: u are so narrow-minded, i wonder myself why even people like u even dare to share comments here. do u even realize why the price of civic burst up like that…its because of EXTREME TAX u moron. What if the gvt take off d tax and the price of civic will gonna go under 90k, are u still go to proton or civic?? Frankly speaking, its not like i myself dont want to spport proton, but come on…we are speaking about QUALITY here.
@Foward Japan has MORE EXTREME TAX than Malaysia.
chicken or no chicken, inspira still eat smoke by my caldy, next year plan to buy civic too.. i tink tat can pose thread to inspira tooooo!!!
the one who laugh is not the japanese, but the government, they are the one who got the tax.. do people get benefit from the tax? keep daydreaming mate..
I heard that the first 2000 unit had been bought by Malaysian Gov…
Proton got Lancer
Mitsu got Exora….
Deal done…
If Mitshubshi sell Exora in Japan, I think they will need to recall & spoil their own name
3rd world country people not able to buy good car will try to remove PROTON sign & replace with Mitshubishi
\They they market EXORA in Japan, people in Japan will removed Mitshibishi EXORA & replace with PROTON’s sign. This is because they know what is high grade & what is a low grade
What is a HORSE and what is a Donkey
non of Japanese guy will buy DONKEY for the horse race
Wait for recall & price will drop when the demand is drop
Launch Nov 15, 2010 but BIG offer for over trade car on Jan 1st, 2010
Discount RM10,000.00 for the early bird (the 2nd) 1,000 owner
hahaha
you wont get jerung mitsu, you only will get proton faked
Can’t they think of a better name? And it’s absolutely not inspiring at all considering this is just a rebadge Mitsu. Sigh…
well, once you buy the car, just remove all proton badges and rebadge it back to mitsubishi lancer. that sounds better right?
100% agree, all the ah beng will definitely do it when they receive the new waja !!!!!!!
i do think those designers cud do a better job at designing the air ducts on the bumper. with so many car manufacturers designing them for cooling efficiency, dwnforce, etc… they cud hav copied some random design and paste it there rather than just to have a piece of black plastic cover to cover the lower front bumper. and the rear lights are so Kedai aksesori ABANG.
why rebadge with mitsu….bmw or merc la more happening!!!!
i think it will void the warranty.
as stated by paul on previous post, the bumper is actually work as air guides for the transmission cooler, so that the CVT transmission fluid will be less likely to overheat.
if you convert back to gt mean you lost two things. first is the warranty and second is the effect of the air guides.
briliant observer
dude…just leave it laa..try to appricate our malaysian designer…(ni x, blik2 japan gak korg nk..aku tgok ok pe? up to date gak…ade ala2 merc C-class)
what, u think lancer is a nice name?
yeah..better save name for another proton real car..this one should named as proton lancar…
KIA = Kill In Accident
VIOS = Vehicle Intelligent Owner Stupid
200% agree! why can’t they keep waja as the name? look at toyota, honda,mitsu itself and other car makers, they keep their cars name but people still know their product by generation! I believe someday malaysian cars will lack of names…. hahahaha…. !
The people at proton do not understand the meaning of heritage. Most of their cars have been discontinued. There’s no generation of car model. No continuity. 10 years time there will no more Inspira. Very soon they will run out of names.
Nope…proton just wanna tell the world that they have many models under their belt so each new model must hv its own name. On their 50th anniversary i bet nobody in proton can remember all their model names…what more ordinary people like us.
yeah we will never run out of good names. we can opt for local fruit names. proton manggis, proton durian gti, proton rambutan se, proton langsat, emm proton langsat gti sounds rather appropriate for this model in synonym with ‘lancer’.
dun need to wait 10 years, I think they already ran out of names, thats why they call this car inspira. You dont call something inspiring when you have no inspiration for smtg. what sort of name is inspira when theres really no inspiration at all to be inspired about? LOL
I guess because it’s a rebadge car, proton don’t want it to associated with waja. Waja dia become proton first enginered model when it was first launch rite? for me the Gen2 was a bad name. it doesn’t reflect any heritage. why don’t just call it wira.
yup, this should continue the ‘waja’ name..it look tough like the old one..tougher!
i don’t understand why the need to come up with new name..it is intended to replace the old waja.
Gen-2 and Persona was supposed to replace Wira, so?
How about call it as “WAJAlution’? A new Proton Waja tha is evoled from the Mitsu Lancer/Evo. :-)
no no..when i thinked of waja.it remembered me of the power window problem..so not continuing the waja legacy is good though
My friend said, Thanks to Waja because demand for the power window is good, helping his biz
hahaha
yea why not call it Wa-Lan instead so that both Proton and Mitsu can have a slice
you are damm creative.
Proton LANCAR is better name imho :D
whatever name it is!!
That is not important, because the demand for Mitshubishi Logo will increase, trust me
Proton should not use pet name anymore but use code like 3 5 6 7 series, i10 i20, A B C D E or etc
Stupid idea
If Proton do so, again u people will complain here saying Proton is a copycat for Mercedes, Volvo & BMW
Y don’t U comment to BMW, Volvo & BMW to follow Proton by introduce name like
waJA
saGA
wiRA
exoRA
persoNA
perdaNA
the name it’s not an issue..it’s depend on manufacturer whatever name want to put it.
True, Look at GM, they own Suzuki, Chevy, Opel and they keep switching names between markets.
whatever name is it, that is NOT important at all
because the name & logo of Mitshubishi is in the production & ready to sell to the Inspira owner
Just convert your inspira to Lancer / Evo to increase the value
Proton INSPIRA…
Nice name by the way…
So is INPIRA SE and R3 coming too?
Who knows the INSPIRA SE might be from EVO X…haha
just dreaming
im voting for the inspira R3! absolutely!
Aiyohhh my wife already put the deposit down lah… Should consider to wait until SE or R3 coming out. But she will not get the 70% made in japan stuff & 2 yrs warranty. Anyhow, i think she made a wise decision.
Comment abit for those who says that G & P1 does not built kereta for rakyat (too expensive etc). There are variation on the models what? Those who can afford 40k car can get either savvy or saga, same goes to persona & gen2. Can you imagine the quality of the car if P1 building Waja and selling it at Sub 30k price? The fact is it’s just not true to say you get what you pay (i’m talking about cars in malaysia). If that’s the case, i just can’t bear my mind, paying rm480k for merc E300, knowing that more than half of the money go straight to G. I would rather spending that kind of money to get full spec 5 years CLS with Brabus fitted merc RECOND car, knowing that the percentage of tax is way less.
ask proton to launch Proton Inspira 2.0 turbo R3 edition or Inspira 2.0 MIvec Kompressor..price maybe around 180k kekeke or 140k…
Inspira (Proton) = Inspire (Honda)
another copycat idea from Proton.
* why not Waja II? or maintain the name Waja. aiyoh… they did the correct thing when selling the new Saga without changing the name….
Agreed with you.. call WAJA II is enough for me… make the waja as one identity.. but will have different variant, rather than keep changing name…
well, I believe if proton named this car as Waja II, everyone will shout proton is not creative for not coming with a creative names.
should be named Proton Inspirate la….
Maybe Proton Expired instead?
one thing you don’t know, proton doesn’t just rebadge the lancer model.. but, actually proton and mitsu have a deal to swap lancer with persona and savvy. that means, proton have the right to produce lancer as a proton, carrying proton’s identity…and mitsu will have the right to produce persona and savvy as a mitsu…maybe for japan market…so, there’s just more than rebadging issue…we know the relationship between proton and mitsu…right? :-)
persona n savvy for japan market? i dun think mitsu will bring in Malaysian product and rebadging it.
Do u not know that EXORA was already used on a model in the LOTUS range ?
Proton just conveniently stole it , guess they can cos they are owners of Lotus.
Curi saje la, usah jadi kreatif ….
prove it….u mean exora or evora..i also can said “do u know that kia forte already use on model in the hyundai range”
Exora name came from the public contest, they had the winner receive her Exora & everything. By coincidence the name sounds similar like the Evora.
Even something as simple as the bleeding name can be an issue? Bashers have no issues left to bash is it?
if u hear waja what is ur first thought?……………………………that y i think proton wan to get rid waja bcoz of that bad perception
Copycat happened when u copy 100%
but if it’s not 100% then it’s not a copycat lah
By the way, in the biz term, we call it as BENCHMARKING
U should understand the word “DUPLICATE” & “REPLICATE”!!!
If u don’t, then u should go to kinder garden school
I think Smart Reader is the best, u may consider
Hahaha Jangan Marah, I am just kidding
it not imposible
how can they price it so near to forte? forte is imported and with 6 airbag. the local made car cannot be cheaper than this? come on.
fyi the forte is not fully imported, ckd la deng…
FORTE ckd?….that is just a gimmick by NAZA….it is still fully imported but change logo only…u can go n see the car whether got any local parts…thers none, NAZA plant cant even assemble it yet….This protong already got 26% local content, BS…..
its CKD la bro…check ur facts…
Naza Forte is national car. put the Kia logo back, the price will go up another 15-20K.
its a CBU under cover a CKD la bro.. to avoid the tax. Latest batch of fortes all CBU. u can comfirm by the chassis number, claim as CKD can avoid tax
Forte is not full ckd. in fact very little ckd. even tyres are korean. have to know definition of ‘local assemble’ here. there’s a bit of wayang kulit due to cost factor.
current forte now i heard is half assemble at Gurun plant.
Mostly they assemble assembly part ..n then do testing…
On future, i heard forte facelift will come to Malaysia…
do u know wat is ckd and cbu not just the word but what it mean…weird la u..do that mean ckd half already pasang n half not pasang or like complete car with no door than pasang kat malaysia? i tot ckd like u pasang ur tamiya car from scratch
then why u guys went apeshit? wasn’t u guys loooove import cars?
u can report here u think NAZA tipu
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No need to report. Dont waste time. It’s an OPEN SECRET.
yup CBU but call as CKD to avoid tax. NAZA is super cronies. so they can do whatever they want. No matter they got premium land at KL gold triangle from MITI
waa, u work at NAZA factory ka? wonder u know very much….
you are comparing KIA with Mitsubishi?
hw can u compare KIA who is nw in the top 4 car maker in the world with a nearly bankrupt Mitsubishi who r nt even in the top 10 car maker….hahaha….Forte voted for 2009 world COTY awards…Lancer any award?…hw many sales?….nw rebadge to Potong brand sure even drop the sales and the name….
So are you saying Kia is better than Porsche? They ain’t doing that well too. Toyota sales drop too. Sales doesn’t justify quality.
dude…how can u compare sedan to a sportscar? compare to it’s same category ar please…in fact it’s the bestseller in US…and yo dude, US has the second biggest population in the world if not the first…and being the best seller over there IS SIGNIFICANT for people to judge and you know how they have up their gameplay…check it out even the hyundai sonata scores 5 star in safety as well as bmw…and u know how important quality is to them when comes to imported cars…
Kia is not 4th largest in the world. Hyundai-Kia is actual 5th largest now with contribution from Hyundai plants as well.
brother largest population china den india..u should know that at least…
have u see in news tht kia forte car get accident just becoz of angin lintang at 140km/h.. LOL.. very shame..
even 2 honda city was burn when speeding n crash and kill the passanger on the spot it’s more danger n shame for honda then forte slipping with no effect to chasis and engine (not total loss)..are ur sure she drive at 140km/h or 170km/h?
it suppose hyundai rite top 4….kia is undar hyundai if i not mistaken
well~ this is PROTON not MITSUBISHI~
Forte is imported? I thought is assembly in Kedah?
Yes, Forte with 6 Air Bag and TCS,
But Forte using dated 4 speed Auto and Torsion Beam suspension, is kind of give and take la.
Anyway, I think either Forte or Inspire is a good buy compare to those 1.5 L RM 80-90k car. (Mazda 2, City, Vios).
torsion beam is not outdated. using tosion beam eliminates suspension noise. multi-links suspension is using multiple arms attached to car body. this allows noise to be transmitted into the cabin. it makes the suspension well a little bigger and reduce cabin space.
torsion beam has proven to improve noise level by reducing/eliminating the sources and more than sufficient for use in normal road cars.
yup.. torsiom beam good and have their own advantage.. but i choose and prefer multi link.. majoritiy BMW, Volvo car using multi link at rear
ya. I thk Forte, Inspira is good buy. also Chevrolet Cruze and coming Hyundai Accent
don’t u forget Avante.. also at the same price.. And it is a good car…
Forte 1.6 bro…
This One 1.8… and C-Segment car near to Civic, Altis
and the price like Vios…
Forte has 1.6L and 2.0L.. .and its a c-segment as well FYI.
so not much different in terms of size
forte is bigger in size…go n compare the dimensions…n the build quality and interior design is way better….no need even to talk of the bus load of specs and technology tht puts lancer to shame…(6 airbags, ESC,TCS,EBD,BA,CBC, Active headrest, RPAS, MDPS, Electro chromic rearview,Auto climate control with ionizer, keyless start, smart entry, USB, iPod/iPhone port, Aux port n the list goes on….)
Lancers CVT is proven to be lousy as well, go read in lancer forums…n wait til it fails and stomach turns over when u read on the cost of changing CVT….even Honda gave up on CVT….
I THINK THAT IS A FACT THAT WE MUST ADMIT KOREAN CAR HYUNDAI AND KIA NOWSDAY ARE WELL BUILT AND GOOD IN QUALITY. PLEASE CHECK THE LATEST KIA K5,K7,EQUUS AND SO ON. I READ AN REPORT HONDA JAPAN CEO DID MENTION BEWARE OF HYUNDAI AND HER SISTER. I AM USING HYUNDAI SONATA 2.4 2003. I AM VERY HAPPY WITH IT. DON’T TALK ABOUT PROTON INSPIRA EVEN MITSUBISHI AND SUZUKI UNABLE TO COMPETE WITH THEM. IN MALAYSIA CAR TAX STRUCTURE FRANKLY SPEAKING I THINK KIA, HYUNDAI.PEUGEOT AND MAZDA ARE WORTH BUYING CARS. FORD NEED TO DO A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT IN THEIR MARKETING. I ONLY SAW ONCE LATEST FORD MONDEO ON THE ROAD.
i AGREED THAT MITSUBISHI LANCER IS NOT A GOOD QUALITY CAR.
WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR MINDSET NOT ALL JAPANESE CAR ARE GOOD IN QUALITY. PLEASE THINK HOW GOOD THE CAR IN SAFETY FEATURES THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO OFFER. EURONCAP RATING.
DON’T ALWAY THINK ABOUT THE SECOND HAND VALUE AND PETROL COMSUMPTION. A LOT OF PEOPLE ALWAY SAID HYUNDAI SONATA 2.4 PETROL COMSUMPTION VERY HIGH. ACTUALLY IT ALMOST THE SAME AS HONDA 2.4 LATEST VERSION. BECAUSE MY FRIEND IS DRIVING THAT CAR.
Korean recall their car in US due to air bag not functioning well
Who care how many air bag?
By the way, Don’t ask to test drive from the KIA salesman
but just ask, to test their Air Bag to ensure all 6 are functioning well
if they got 100 air bag, ask for all
OK?
Perdana Don’t Need an Air Bag!!! sorry to say so
Forte assemble in GURUN (Kedah Maju 2010)
but INSPIRA assemble in Shah Alam
If u compare 2.0cc segment
Both local car produce but P1 able to offer lower price & latest model
Forte old model lah but Inspira fresh
6 air bags ye?
Go & ask them to test air bag when u test drive
U better drive Kancil by putting the helmet on your head, because helmet function better then air bag
Air bags sometimes can kill
But air bag life span is 3 years
warranty over, air bag sebagai perhiasan sahaja
how often u use air bag?
Smart Guy don’t need air bag because they are always hati2 di jalan raya
they got belt and drive slowly + carefully
if i ever gonna buy this car..surely go for 1.8 manual!!
it’s been a while since satria gti,putra and wira 1.8 manual gone…now we can get 1.8 manual from inspira..nyumm… but the 2.0 price more than 2.0 forte..i was hoping that its cheaper a bit.
Well, Inspira comes with a CVT gearbox, thats better than that fuel-sucking 4-speeder
wait till the CVT fails….go read Lancer forums on how ‘lovely’ is the CVT….amateur!!!….
CVT is not for harsh driving, which i dono y dey provide peddle shift. Anyways, CVT all the while has reliability problem. That’s why u dun see EVO uses CVT, EVO uses Dual Clutch.
duhh..proton engineers solve the problem ady..go read back the article la bro..
for sure la they also read comments and problems regarding the lancer..
as for the cvt problem, after the 1st batch of lancer gts the problem was spotted and solved by mistu and not proton engineers as claimed.
those failure was wit people who retuned their engine to higher HP.. CVT is reliable for certain HP.. if u cross the border, then even a conventional gearbox will not be reliable..
mat-racing revived !
I think hybrid is better
Guess I can ask my dad one..hehe
seriously, its the Lancer Evolution car maker cannot tune the car better? lol
this is truly unbelievable.
but then, hey ,i heard lotus bankrupted several times, wonder why?
I fed your comment through Google Translate.
I still can’t understand it.
you need a boast in IQ. Google cant help you.
Lotus is a multiplier. If your car is good, they help it to be better. If your car is bad quality, they will amplify it.
use a bad quality car to sapu corner? die earlier. If you have a GTR, good handling make it better
remember, lotus itself is a failed story. related everything to 2 failed companies did not help, mitsu and lotus both are failed stories. Go google Pakcik.
Warrgh.. above my price range…
Not a bad deal for 80K..
all cars in our beloved 1malaysia r overpriced….we r being cruelly deprived of our rights to own decently priced superior quality cars. People first remember…meaning we work like slaves n ‘they’ are reaping our hard-earned RM!!!!
all of ASEAN country similar price to malaysia except maybe thai n brunei
hopefully one day governor will reduce the highest tax
In that case, u try to get a job in Langkawi or Labuan, also still 1 Malaysia apa?
Jangan marah Bro!!!
we must support Proton, if we are not, who else?
1st…he..he…Looks cool man!!!
no cool (T_T)
not cool..but hot!!
thank you Maxs for the joke of the day!! Hillarious!!
1st?
Proton should have kept the Waja brand.
yeap..actually they should do that. look like corolla, civic and saga..they retain the name.
…waja crisis identity perhaps.Yesterday im a cat, today im a washing machine
ya.. next day the will be some bunch of Donkey..
Dah book 4 biji…… utk bini 1 hingga 4 ….. baikpunya….
tq proton….
Agreed. Don’t quite like this new name for every model system. It works if every car that comes out is iconic, like Ferrari or Lambo.
However, if you are just replacing and updating the car before, within the same segment, better to stick to the same model name no?
This way in the future, we could still have a Satria, Waja, Saga. We haven’t even gone that far, and we are already running out of ideas for great names, while eventually losing the very iconic ones.
I hope that Proton can do something radical like another company they own ie Lotus. Re-launch the brand, and revive the iconic models. Get a great design team, to work on the Saga, Satria, Waja, and Perdana all with a common design element.
One can only hope. I hope to see an updated Proton Saga in 30-40 years. For all intents and purposes, it is our own VW Beetle.
What design team? Does Peroton have a design team. I thought all this while all they did was take old Mitsu’s and rebadge them. I’d rather buy old continental cars any day than waste paying for a piece of junk for the next 8-9 years.
I also agree wit you. hopefully it will be better sooner or later. I also love that Proton will use all the iconic name such as Perdana,Putra, Satria, Saga even for next Exora mpv,just maintaine that name.
I also hope that the name still in Bahasa Malaysia term,for example if Proton want to make their new on SUV segment just search good malay words for it.
Please do not put some modern word on it..for example Desire, Globalisasi, Transformasi etc…
Hopefully Proton Brand will be more respectful with good design,good quality and good aftersale service.
i don’t agree.
Even though the waja, wira and satria are household names for proton, but it doesn’t sound global enough to have an international presence. Names like Saga is good for proton and it is still being used. Satria will continue to be used because this car is well known for its drive.
In the other note, that’s why new names such as Exora and Persona is used in my opinion, where these new cars are sold in the international market.
I think Proton is still searching for a more “internationally acceptable” name. If I’m not mistaken, Waja is not named as Waja in some export market.. Instead it was named as Impian. Also their Saga also named as S16 in Australia Market. Maybe they are trying to rid off the “so-so” name and slowly replacing it with the new one.. Anyway, OK what INSPIRA.. Not so bad what. But I believe, if Proton use the name Waja also still got someone else criticize it.. no one could satisfy everyone.. :-)
Actually got to give them credit apart from selection of names for the car… they did a good job as Proton has always been a value buy car. i.e. value for money. Personally I’ve been using Proton cars & has given us many miles of trouble free service… Got to be fair too that you cannot expect it to perform like a Rolls Royce or BMW when you’re only paying RM60K to RM70K. U get what u pay for… So looking from that angle it’s a good car. The Waja is roomy & tough. The Persona had quite good looks, the Exora a value buy & now the Inspira has made it possible for us working class ppl to own something similar to Lancer but a much cheaper price.
My only wish is for Proton to include a genuinely more powerful engine for all it’s cars e.g. turbo / super charge / compressor rather than just fitting sports exhaust, sports air filter or wider rims which actually adds very little performance to a car.
They should introduce CVVT to reduce fuel consumption… which is important to us users….
Good job proton … hope u may consider
hi ah beng, what credit proton deserved if they just rebadge the car and change the bumper and suspension… any ah beng (not you) shop can do a better job lah…
for the next pheonix project there will be a cvvt as an upgrade to campro
Proton company really do not have talented employees.!
All are sleeping:- CopyCat, Expensive rakyat car, Fugly rims, powerless power windows, any add-on?
Bro, don’t la compare Proton with Rolls Royce or BMW. Compare la with Japs car like Vios. Quality and reliability is way better than Proton.If not for tax , i believe Vios would cost less than 55K. Compare with Rolls Royce is just impossible.
it got nothing to with race you imbecile
Only salesmen will said RM95k is cheap for Malaysian….. bcos not their money…..
100% agree with you kc…..i spent 80k to get my mechanical engineering degree for 4 years. I am making above 10k at the age of 26 with a petrochemical company. Rather invest your money in education but not a car !
this is about hoby or ur dreams not bout education (diff story) if u can buy good or nice car i’m sure u are already educated or success in ur life and maybe got paid more than 5k d….
smart guys get EDUCATED! smart guys also NEVER EVER BUY PROTON!
ye, 95k is expensive compare to lancer price w/o tax
he must be the lancer’s owner..pity. :p
a car in the class of the lancer can never be sold for RM45k anywhere in the world. which planet are you from?
the 1.8 lancer in the UK is already selling at around 17,000 GBP.
What so sad about that? Do you pay for the downpayment? If not, don’t bother. Your mentality is really below average. Grow up bro.
well, the MIVEC mechanism used in the Inspira’s 4B11 engine is actually a CVVT. thats why new Lancers don’t have engine power surge like previous MIVECs or VTECs.
but Proton need to introduce their own CVVT lah :|
mivec tech now is same like old one….y all new car start fr 2005 onward less power? bcoz they need to follow straight regulation from uk, america etc…..to make this car more greeny but still maintain 155-160hp they must up to 2.0 mivec….if still use 1.6 mivec wth straight regulation i think old mivec maybe 125 hp only
Proton have CAMPRO CPS, may be we still need an i-CPS :)
i tot proton cps is one kind of variable valve timing/lifting technology….. so proton already introduce their own so-called cvvt
Bro Ah Beng, they technically cannot introduce CVVT in Proton because “CVVT” is owned by Toyota (unless they rebadge Toyota or getting license to use the name or to use the CVVT itself). FYI, Perodua uses “DVVT” instead of “CVVT”…….
Bro, don’t get confused between vvt,vvti, dvvt….CVVT is a gear tech, not engine.
I think for gear, it call CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission)
CVVT = Continuous Variable Valve Timing, which is refer to engine (like V-TEC, VVTI, DVVT or even MIVEC)? all are Valve Timing Control system, Proton CPS also something similar. (Not 100% same, but all are similar thing?)
good job YYBB…
i think they stand for valve system…
lol
CVVT is variable valve tech la. while the gear tech is CVT.. pity u.
perodua just rebadge and assemble from daihatsu who made DVVT ,they rebadge car like mira=kancil, sirion/passo=myvi, mira 5th generation=kelisa, mira 7th generation=viva
yeah…sound like impreza… just modified from english word…
Proton NO-NAME sound better right?
Dont insult VW Beetle name wif P1… Beetle until now still can get spare parts & after market around the world but how about those 8V P1 Saga parts, especially Tiara?!?
Even Beetle engine can run without water (air-cooled). The only drawback is lack of high hp which the modern day car can do and still is the current world record holder of the most popular car in history if not mistaken.
Metaphorically speaking la bro..
agree with you. should retain the waja name
maybe waja inspira
ahaha..now it’s officially opened for booking…hmmm wonder if its true 1000 ‘early birds’ will get the original mitsubishi part as rumoured….
oh launch today?
CONGRAT FOR THOSE WHO BOOKING TODAY!!!!!
i dont know you have 4 thumbs down on your comment. theres nothing wrong or bad about it. anyway congrats !
lets be supportive to proton. they hv done a good job in improving the lancer and reducing its price!
eeerr don’t mean to be a basher …but the more i think about it ….
Firstly , if it wasn’t for P1 and if they never existed, the original Lancer would have been sold at this price IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Now after years of selling the car at a higher taxed price, they just rebadged the car and sell it back to you under their own brand …
How can u say they have done a good job then ??
And do you really think without heavy machine(automotive) industry in Malaysia driving the economy, that you can afford that price?
Dream on la brader. You can’t afford this price either. pooorahhh
Finally something interesting from proton… worth considering since Mitsu DNA…..
I have to say this is the best looking Proton ever and at only 26% local content, it should be a great car too.
wira is also best looking when it launched. Only after 10 years in showroom, it showed its age. lol.
wira time launched in 93, same lancer launched in japan 92.
inspira launched in 2010. the samel lancer launched in 2007.
so we must bring lastest model every 3-4 years or do some minor facelift every 2 years
of cos it is good looking, it is a lancer afterall.
If rebadge Lambo, lagi good looking!
i’ll bought this bro…for sure… but hopefully price is 150k below laa.. i dont care if people laugh, hahaha lambo protong…
Yeah apek, I will rebadge one lambo for you but with 1.8 lit engine…150K ..
when is the launch at proton’s Centre of ‘Excellence’, by TDM?
suggest also to do it as part of proton’s 25th anniversary celebrations..
After so many years, we go back to rebadging Mitsubishis. Tragic :(
dude…i suggest you read paul’s previous post on the rationale behind this rebadging exercise…
proton started rebadge since day 1 = proton saga
and at their hey day = wira
now at their turning piint= lancer, ok wat….
very OK
u are a smart guy.. smart girl instead
Rebadge is a rebadge there is no denying in that. they just came up with some excuses to back their decision.
from economic standpoint, their decision and rationale is correct. What’s your excuse for your statement? If rebadge without alteration to the car then u can call it a crappy rebadge, but they improved it and put on a cheaper price tag.
Please, look at the world outside and start standing on your own before you talks about how others should/shouldn’t do
it is cheap by virtue of its protected status, not by any great effort on proton’s part.
proton can take loan for their new lotus 5 model but for malaysian they gave us rebadge. That how they value their proton customer because here they were protected. Open our car market then they start appreciate their customer.
You really didn’t read the previous article, did you….
who the fxxx cares what the reason are? After years of R&D, syphoning Malaysian tax payers money, this is the best Proton can give the rakyat.
What ever the reason still doesn’t justify their very existence.
You Proton fanboys and UMNO cronies who makes up the list of Proton vendors are really sad.
After 25 years, still operating like kedai potong. DSZ, resign and jaga cucu la, you didn’t bring changes as promised.
@Ash Menon: lolwut, u’re starting to comment :) Good to see u in this blog, classmate ;)
@Joseph: ya sure, he resign, u replace him. Okay? Let’s see if u can do better.
can u afford to buy lotus then?
yeah..that right Leseid Obrut sayed!
adoiii…. did u read the article or not?
some ppl dont understand what is business and automotive industry all about. u only need wiki to explain it all..no need rocket science to understand the best way to save money from r&d. p1 use so much money for gen2 and savvy..not worth it…so paham2 je la..yang penting consumer puas hati ;)
Business is not about saving cost only. Business is also about innovation. Nothing wrong with re-badging, but if Proton only did re-badging, do you think it will ever establish itself as a serious car brand?
That kind of thinking is why we are not industry leaders. Think also of the long term. If Proton loses market share, thousands of jobs are affected, that is why Proton is so important to Malaysia in particular.
Kalau setakat ‘ala kadaq’ punya approach macam ni, sampai bila2 pun macam tu gak. Automotive industry is killer competitive. Move or die.
If Proton doesn’t innovate, it is only a matter of time before we wake up one day and Proton is a car company that exists in only in our history books.
yea ala kadaq, korok mu.. berapa byk model baru?.. br nk rebadge semula utk cr modal pusingan ko dah byi.. bopa byk peniaga yang jual barang bt sendiri? kebanyakan semua jual barang amek tempat lain.
example kedai makan, x tanam sendiri syur dye msk tu.. kedai ekon x buat sendiri ekon tu.. kedai runcit.. x bungkus sendiri pon keropok dye jual..
apela.. bajet bijak tulis bi agy.. otak kecik..
Lol rileks bro. Ni bukan kedai runcit, this is a NATIONAL CAR company. If they have a solid plan, Malaysian government will back, modal tu not really a problem. Ingat sikit, this company owns Lotus, and Lotus pun did exactly what I suggested, total relaunch of Elite, Elise, Esprit, Elan and intro model baru lagi, Eterne. First model coming 2013. Mana dapat duit R&D tu?
Kalau ikut your logic, baik tak yah bagi jobs kat Malaysians, buat je Proton kat China lagi murah. Jangan guna pekerja sendiri. Before tuduh otak kecik, tengok cermin dulu.
Dah la tu, bukannya I against 100% pun. Re-badging takde hal, tapi I said tak boleh la forever kan? “Nothing wrong with re-badging” baca balik comment tu.
Tak kisah if you disagree with me, you can even say I 100% wrong, tapi at least baca dulu apa orang tulis, otherwise STFU lol
that y la they only re-badge 1 car not the whole range…DSZ hav stated that this just filing the gap n the future model will be par or better than this re-badge…if u not remember p1 produce its own car persona, saga, exora, neo, waja..they r not fully re-badge company
General Electric tidak buat sendiri air cond nya but LG, still No 1 brand in the world
General Motor brand US tapi all Korean car
Both GE & GM are ranking no 1 in US
any Americano ketawa?
Fikir2kanlah ye
Read Paul’s previous article will you? “rebadge only”? Read what proton has done to this lancer before you reply
A lot of people on this site maybe read the article, however I fear that Malaysians at large will not. Which leads to a problem of… perception.
There is nothing wrong with the plan. In fact, it is a good plan, and I can see the benefits of it. However, when the most exciting news coming out from Proton is a re-badged car, and not anything from their core models, that leads to a perception of laziness by the general public.
Whatever the truth is, if this perception takes hold, it can do damage to Proton’s reputation. Proton must take steps to inform the public and increase its goodwill.
Lotus has done this, with their launch. The cars are not even available, with the first car being available in 2013! Yet, already, I am excited for Lotus. This is an example of the goodwill and intangible good perception working in Lotus’s favour. Of course, at the end of the day, they have to back up their promises, but that’s another story.
The problem isn’t the re-badging, the this or that. The problem is, Proton is still not out of the woods, and we who love Proton sometimes feel frustrated.
I love Proton, I remember as a kid, when I saw my first Proton Saga ever. It was somebody’s parent, picking up a kid in my school. He had to wait for half an hour, because a huge crowd gathered round, to admire the car, including me. Jakun is an understatement, I felt super proud. That was an amazing feeling.
One thing that makes me happy is that, despite all the differences in opinion here, I notice that the underlying feeling is that everyone wants the best for Proton. tell me of any other car company in Malaysia that can do this. If this isn’t muhibah, I don’t know what is.
Hebat Proton!
aim… pls la jgn poyo aka perasan bgus sgt… study history proton baru comment…k…
u talk about plan, about proton direction n bla…bla…bla…
but u know what? if you can read, please google urself about proton…
tak payah susah2 sgt, in paultan here also have lots of news or post about proton new model coming in few years, turbo, green tech, persona R, new saga summore…
pls la… read or browse through proton history or journey b4 commenting…
annoying la….
Conservative calculation..
They get subsidies for 25 years, 300,000 cars per yr avg, 40% of this volume is charged with AP, we pay RM40,000/- per AP.. = RM120 billion over 25 years.
They still losing money..
Every time you buy a car, you pay like crazy… our money! Your life insurance, your kids future education, your retirement.. or pay for AP to subsidize Proton and Perodua.
They are still re-badge a car.. !? Perodua – re-badge Daihatsu..???!!?
not logic at all…….did u know in the 80’s that amount u can buy 2-3 cars n in the early 90’s u can buy 1-2 cars….the value of money is not same..RM40k today MAYBE in the 80’s it is equivalent to RM200k today (that i don wan to elobarate i hav limited knowledge bout money value) roughly like that la maybe other people can explain better
yup.. agree.. waja-inspira project for collect more money to build better car in the future.. i thk it is good practice but the price if be lower, it can sell like hot cake
I agreed with the price as we need to give competitors cari makan sikit
If Hot cake, nanti QC tak lepas, banyak re-call pulak
Memadai 200K units setahun
Who’s cares. While proton produce Wira a lot of them volunteer rebadge to Mitsu Lancer. That’s our culture rebadging product. At least the sales volume increase. More important thing Proton focus on SAGA & EXORA. Thumb up Proton. Don’t forget to study the CVT for other models!!
..and here come the basher.
Oh man, this is getting old already. Many car manufacturers all over the UNIVERSE are doing the same thing. But I guess you and so many other won’t bother to understand. So, just let it be.
Yea like GM? See how well they have done.
Re-badge is a common practice you know for the time being. Pevgeot also re-badged Mitsubishi car….so what? It is not because Proton have no technology to build a car: Proton have prove its strength in developing Gen-2, persona and Exora, This what you called ‘Tragic’ is actually just a marketing strategy.
no advance technology !!!!!!!!! Even buying in LOTUS and yet no advance technology being developed. WHY ???????? Years of mismanagement and cronies !!!!!!! PROTON and all local car industries need wake up and work together to be able to be competitive. Study the KOREAN car success (KIA and HYUNDAI) !!!!!!!!!!!!
but malaysians still wont buy Malaysian made product. how?
how can Proton improve without the support / with all the bashing..
kalau kita tak tolong sesama kita, sapa lagi nak tolong..
AGREEDD!!! Malaysian keep bashing their own products. How come? I still support PROTON even though i drive H car.
i can’t drive my merc like my waja
because the LOTUS DNA can scream like crazy
and you think you have studied enough? Do you really understand how they become “successful”?
Korea is even worse than Malaysia. No import cars last time, they were practically forced to buy Kia / Hyundai. and even until now, Korea is still protecting Kia / Hyundai. can you find Honda City / Civic or Toyota cars in Korea…?
support u mofaz
yes, we are lucky becoz although we have our own national car but still govt still good enuf to let foreign brand coming to malaysia. and also not forget recond car, which i believe u cant find in korea, japan, and in germany (those are car manufacturers).
if u have more money, buy foreign car
if u dont have much money, but malaysian car or u can buy 2nd hand foreign car
we have so much options to go, why bother?
in terms of technology, tell me how many malaysian professionals want to work inside malaysia? all of them working outside because of money, but u wont find in korea or japan becoz they are patriotic to their country.
its not about stupid policy or about UMNO and govt, its about OUR MINDSET.
please be a thinking society, not bashing society
pity malaysian coz have a lot of narrow minded people, thats why we cannot move on.
Although to be fair, Mofaz , the Koreans at least have seen a PROGRESSION in their car making business and has even moved up in the GLOBAL front as an established car maker nowadays….
But after so many years, Proton is still the way it is , still UNDERACHIEVING and still UNABLE to compete GLOBALLY, still relying on an unleveled playing field domestically … not to mention having internal issues of cronism and nepotism etc.
tapi di jerman kalau tak silap harga kereta lain pun murah jugak. faktor ramai guna kereta mereka sendiri di jerman sbb jenama kereta jerman memang dah top dengan kualiti, perfomance dll. cuba check harga Audi, BMW, Mercedesz di sana. Jangan terkejut beruk jika Merc, Porsche pun jadi teksi
I Think Malaysia should practice the same, we are not BAR them from enter Malaysia’s market but apply high tax, example Vios J no longer RM69K++ But RM169K++
Hidup Proton
KIA almost bankrupt before being save by Hyundai n Hyundai run by family who own many company that can giv Hyundai motor money for R&D…..i think we should find better example
aku xpenah sekali pon rse kete korea tu cantik walaupun tgk 40 ribu kali..
Cuba tengok untuk 40,001 kali, pasti cantik
Kalau masih tak cantik, cuba menonggengkan kepala ke bawah, tengok melalui celah2 kaki dari belakang, kot2 jadi cantik bila mata ditebalikkan..hehehe
When proton rebadge,everyone make noise but perodua copycat nobody complaint. good car ..lah , can open door 90 degree ..lah.
Bcoz Proton already 25 years and our Govt. spending a lottttt…… of money to make it EXIST until now.Govt money is our money.We understand proton ‘borrow’ this car from Mitsu bcoz C class car have a lot of competitors and small margin.They wont investing too much money to develop a new model.Proton was caught in a middle, between struggling to make profit and malaysian demand for cheap car.Perodua is different story.We are looking for 25 years of Proton experience.
@Vee, Mr PaulTan already mention in detail regarding this matter but still we can see this same question/post asked on and on…(and Mr Paul keep answer it in previous post)..And, the most important thing, we still have our Campro engine (they still keep improving this engine) and its own model (Persona, Saga) . This model (Inspira) doesnt mean Proton will only re badged Mitsu car after this. Chill bro :)
I want to thank Proton coz give us a chance to have our dream car in a reasonable price. 1.8 Manual is a good choice for most of us, a GreaseMonkey .
Congratulation to those book this improved Lancer today :)
Note : On top of mod list, re-badged it back to Mitsu..Hehe.
bashers gonna bash just as haters gonna hate
Totally agree with u!
Hahaha….and I assume churning out similar versions of the Vios, Altis is awesomely awesome? I sense a Jap fan here….
Mr Ejoy, please read this:
“As an appreciation to early birds, Proton will be offering a 2 year (50,000km) free service package worth RM1,658 including parts and labor to those who take delivery of their brand new Proton Inspira before the 31/12/2010”
not just 1000 early bird..the bird after that olso can..
even if u are the cuckoo bird?
Free service package for delivery before 31/12/10… sounds like a trade off for year end car
the question is….
if i booked today, can they do “delivery of their brand new Proton Inspira before the 31/12/2010”?
im sure many people will buy this. does this means if i booked today but if the car is delivered after 31/12/2010, then do i still get the “2 year (50,000km) free service package worth RM1,658 including parts and labor”
we will see more ah beng Inspiralution on the road. Proton logo will be replace with 3 diamond logo
Alang2 u wanna replace with 3 diamond logo, Y don’t u replace with 3 star logo (merc), I believe all imitation logo will be the same price
By the way, who is ah Beng?
Ah Beng=’rojak’ car owner
Is it the launch of INSPIRA means NO Lancer CBU anymore?
By the way, Proton have done a good marketing job by considering the needs of younger generation. This INSPIRA will sell as hot as ‘pisang goreng panas’. The price is quite competitive also since it has Mitsu engine and Lotus DNA handling. Hope local banks can give special low loan interest rate for this car. Based on the current interest rate, ones need to forked out RM800++ monthly to own this car (which is too high for a boy).
BANKS = culprits… makes the car more expensive…
Whats wif this thing about Lotus DNA? lotus is just an overrated brand and dont u realise proton is just a looser that likes to use Lotus to brag about the engineering….
think carefully…who are the people that works on these so called engineering, handling? its still the same bunch of looser at proton…
the Lotus name is just a marketing powertool …. see what happened in F1 now? its the same case…i even thought Lotus racing is really Lotus but at the end is just a name…
This is different to the M division in BMW and the AMG for Merc that is so much more than just a name…
sick of it..
go and drive one
you will know
If Lotus is loser overrated brand, then why did Nissan consulted them to develop the GT-R?
As for the Lotus F1 debacle, your statement reinforces Proton’s case for retaking the Lotus name back!
lotus got involved in gtr development meh? wow..thats cool..
i saw jeremy clarkson said lotus is good but pathetically it is owned by proton. my fren from america call proton maker of bicycle..haih…sad case proton..when you gonna grow up..or u will always b overshadowed by …. ‘tuned by lotus’ ..wake up !
if u still didnt know anything, lotus is famously known for being a master in handling..
poor dude, dont know anything, speak too much
ya say agree lotus is a master in handling..but thats lotus la ahbang…bukan proton…proton hanya guna lotus as marketing campaign la….mana satu kerata proton punya handling good? semua teruk la …. saya juga proton owner tak da duit beli imprt punya kereta
well..proton owns lotus=they owns lotus technology..so diowg boleh la tmbah2 ciri2 handling best skit kat proton..adoi..cube la bandingkan proton dgn perodua bab handling…jauh beza brader..handling perodua x best
Rm800 for 9 years? then forget about it~
very soon, we can’t recognize which is real LANCER GT, EVO X, or INSPIRA on the roads! totally confused! xD
hopefully more evoX lookalikes..
smart guys get it huh? but buy mitsubishi is even smarter
A) RM120K is smart
or
B) spend RM79K + 3K for modification to turn it to be the same brand?
Answer is B
WE LOVE PROTON INSPIRA.
I LOVE PROTON INSPIRA
GOOD JOB PROTON.
they have done nothing but just buy the right to manufacture or assemble the car……..perhaps sometimes, by doing nothing….you already doing something great…by not s****ing up
You didn’t read the article? Heck Proton HAVE done something to improve the car. They manage to solve problem with lack of airflow into the CVT gearbox that Mitsu Lancer have. Plus they injected Lotus handling into the car. Who say they do nothing?
u dun read properly aren’t you boy?
they did do the lotus ride and handling adjustment to the lancer…
oh my..
He oredi read it super properly.. But he don’t understand the article.. Pity him..
Don’t say but Buy
That is the support
Just wondering,
Is current problem face by mitsu lancer owner has been fix by proton at this model? if not the same problem will be repeating after this.
check at mitsu lancer forum..
Regarding CVT heating prob, yup. Proton take action on that matter already :)
dont read eh? proton redesign bumper for cooling cvt gearbox… lancer owner can change to inspira bumper and enjoy unheated cvt gearbox now !
According to what Paul said in his comments: “Proton engineers are not allowed to tune the engine and transmission”. So how Proton engineers can actually resolved the CVT heating problem since they can not touch the original transmission?
I’ve already explained in my previous story. But I’ll repeat it again here. The air guides in Proton’s own front end design provides better airflow for the transmission cooler.
good one there…some ppl just admire foreign…it takes many hrs to deisgn a bumper…+ more manhrs + win tunnel testing to design a bumper with better internal airflow… u think like those sunway meh…aduhai… do ur research lah….
Paul.. bashers just cant keep it to themselves…
kalau macam tu tukar bumper krg ok la.. hehe.. patut diwar2 kan ni
Its about the better airflow to the transmission cooler, NOT the Transmission it self.
without no doubt, i’m going to book this car today…
Good for you! I’m sure u will enjoy driving it & modding it!
without no doubt? that means u book the car with doubt? :-P
Inspira is not bad.. u should ask protonians what were the other names mgt asked them to vote for.
Better book the car first, 26% local parts means 26% chances of sub-standard quality arising from proton’s problematic vendors.
Current lancer gt owners…. i really pity u guys… everyone seems mum over at their forum.
not necessary, people who bought the real lancer, bought quality product, CBU from japan and should be proud of it. It’s my dream to get the real lancer, but can’t afford it. I strongly believe the proton lancer, has the same quality built. They might have the same engine and transmission, but interior quality i’m not so sure off. The price also a bit high, might as well get forte. But that is my opinion only
Even though I know that Proton is coming up with Inspira months ago, I did buy the CBU. Even if it’s a Mercedes with a Proton’s logo, I won’t buy it. Had tough 12years with the Wira. Just wait for all the dramas few months after Inspira hit the roads. End of next year 65% local parts? Proton can fly kite. The price is somewhere near high end for most of Malaysians. Calculate the interest, changes done by Ah Bengs. It worth to buy the CBU. 2 Months ago the forum was full of happy peoples who wanted the Inspira but upon realizing the price most of them are very unhappy. Please take note that GOOD THINGS ARE NOT CHEAP AND CHEAP THINGS ARE NOT GOOD. If you get something cheap but having a good look, that means something is wrong.
Actually, if you get something cheap but having a good look, that means it’s a Kia.
Totally agree with you Mr. Anand! Thumbs up!
It’s like having a ‘bohsia’ as your wife. Looks good, cheap but… you know the rest ;)
Fully support you. Only proton owner who had many problems with their car will understand this. We don’t have many 10 years……give other car a chance or risk another 10 years for proton car again?
I had little problems with all the Proton cars i owned, including the Saga 1.5, Wira 1.5, Wira 1.6, Satria 1.5/1.6 and Persona. Oh yeah, i have also used other cars like Alfasud, VW golf, Beetle, Suzuki Swift, Toyota Landcruiser, etc, etc..
You must be one unlucky owner or just very poor at maintaining your cars.
You must be one lucky owner cum salesman or just very great at maintaining your cArSSSS
Whoa!!! u so rich la. U have used more than 10 model of car. I’m impressed~
yeah CBU japan but part still come from china, taiwan, thailand….maybe not all part some part
definitely…i’ll book one :)
kt tgk apa yg proton provided tuk rakyat malaysia dengan harga RM80k……
mitsubishi lancer….
I thought someone ‘smart’ will say it’s a Hyundai designed engine again….lol
good thing paul point it out at previous post…
not like some basher who don’t read and give all the credits to Hyundai while Mitsubishi is the one who did the main design….as in ppl saying lancer is designed by proton….
Paul, I want to ask about audio unit include in this Inspira.
I was told that Clarion would be the supplier. Is it USB port included?
Or only for 2.0 L. How bout 1.8L. Wondering for the price at 80k, the audio unit still not very updated.
No USB unfortunately.
oh no..need to change..this is so frustrating..even myvi premium they easily can give audio with USB. oh proton
why no usb? even persona elegence got usb port what..huhu. wait persona R 2012, real proton design rite?
wait mitsu rebadge persona la..then persona guy will convert into mitsu style…hehehhehehe
USB for kids, this car targeting uncles …………..( matured/masak) one
i still think that all the price of any type of ‘malaysia’ car should be less than 30k. it is worthless. what stupid are those who throw their 80k for garbage. sigh….
u go buy honda ex5 la, end of the story
already buy 10 months ago..
Trolling failed
Bummer. I guess the release models will not have USB. Few years down the road & several updates later it will come with LED lights, USB audio. signal indicators, new grille etc etc. But by then maybe the new Civic will be launched…
I am not sure about you, I actually rather prefer to have a lower class new car with USB audio system built-in to it rather than an second hand executive car with no USB in it. But that maybe me
If u buy the car now, your car will be considered 1 year old by 1 Jan 2011. Thats why they offering u a free servicing package to push off the current stock. But overall when u sell the car in 5 yrs, your value will be about 5K lower.
Better to wait for the 2011 manufactured models even if there is no free service package.
totally agreed.
2.0 cvt proton inspira RM95K (up to 65% local parts, eg dashboard made in malaysia)
2.0 cvt ORIGINAL mitsu lancer GT @ RM120K ( 100% made in japan)
I really dun mind paying the extra for a GT lolz..
for example, Original Louiss Vetton handbag RM12K, Pasarmalam re-badge Louiss Vetton RM9,500, which one u prefer ? LOLz
there wont be rm9500 louiss vetton handbag at pasar malam. It will be only rm120 the most. In fact, your example doesnt play well.
actually riceGirl was trying to point out using the example of LV that IF you all also think Pasarmalam LV should Cost ALOT lesser, then, why settle for a 95K proton Inspira 2.0 ?? It’s equivalent to a Pasarmalam LV @ RM9.5K. RiceGirl i vote for you!
owh. get it.. ricegirl is trying to mean that Proton inspira doesnt worth that rm95k?
hmm.. no.. i think Proton Inspira worth that rm95k… for a good 2.0 cvt + lotus handling and ride.. smooth ride all the way with that smooth CVT compare to normal auto transmission.
but I thk if price can be lower, it is good to tackle most of waja user
rm 120 k compare to rm 95 k(if true).. only discount 20%.. jika kurang 35% dari harga asal baru bagus dan lagi laris2.. 35% discount so the price should be only RM 8X, XXX. 00 WITH LOTUS DNA
Pasarmalam LV is 100% made in Jalan TA Rahman but this Inspira is 70% Japan
where got pasarmalam selling for rm9500…. rm9.50 adalah….. i go for the pasar malam one… buy alot and sell at rm10. i make 50 cent profit….
and i still go for the RK95K malaysia made for cash and safe the different plus what ever interest………
u got so much money than buy la…dont forget to use original mitsu parts ….
i prefer petaling street RM15 LV since I drive BWM..hahaha.. no one will tell me the LV is from PS..
first impression meh..
pasar malam pirated item is not the same as legally re badge car, “we dont say Mc D in malaysia is bad just becoz it use local ingredient”
Good example
First of all, riceGirl din mention the re-badge was ‘Bad’. She also never mentioned about pirated LV nor illegal re-badge by proton lol.
Actually McD in malaysia tastes Better with local ‘ingredient’, think prosperity burger lol, so can we reasonably say Localized Inspira tastes better than Lancer?
i put my bet that Inspira handling is better than lancer gt. power train is the same. have to wait to judge the interior
the pasar malam comparison is wrong, this car is not a fake car. Er.. it’s something else.
Couldn’t agree more with you riceGirl! Thumbs up!
Shoh, I know who you are… the rest will thumb down.
LV pasarmalam obviously won’t use the same material as LV ori. But comparing with Inspira vs Lancer, even though some parts in will be up to 65% is local; the ENGINE and other innards will still be from Mitsubishi.
Ko ni baru belajar sekolah rendah ke apa? Dah2 pegi main jauh.
Hi paul, do the 4B11 engine got MIVEC trademark at the engine or the cap???
At last, my dreams have come true… Lancer owners are screwed fully…
And the secondhand Lancer price will drop like hell because to beloved Proton…
Thanks Proton…
So go for those < 3years lancer mayb is more worth then RM95k Proton…
actually, nothing wrong with Inspira (of course based on what we can see now) being a re-badge car….But seriously, what is the value add of proton doing this after been in the business for more than 25 years….Rebadge a car which was on-sales since a few years ago, and the only strategy is to price it lower????
This car is only selling at about RM48-60k in US with a lot of features. If I would to assume the same costing, it will only cost Proton RM30k to acquire the car from mitsubishi. So, now, they are trying to be like Naza, trying to add value by buying the components and assemble them into a car and put a markup of 150%-200%. I seriously dont know how they are positioning themselves now.
if proton, a so called national car manufacturer, already focusing in car at 70k and above…are we leaving it to the hand of perodua for affordable car???
Every country has their own roadmap for affordable car, in malaysia, we seriously dont see the same trend, unless you classified this sort of persona, ispira, city, vios as affordable car…In fact they are, if just based on specification, BUT they are not is based on price…..
Totally agree with you man.. they say that it is national interest… for the sake of who??? I suppose this is what we rakyat get for supporting the company for 25 year.. and we getting this.. I dont think so.. Defination of AFFORDABLE car? Below 40K?? 50KK?? or between 80K to 100K.. See the trend and you will find out that it is way unreasonable price of our car price with the average ratio of rakyat income.. Oh.. sorry.. Its Malaysia.. The Boleh Land..
if it’s affordable then buy persona la,
even it;s a rebadged car, the price is just so and so, this is for niche market,
myvi (rebadged car) also not really cheap if you compare it with saga
or you can wait for emas and persona r
new design summore
you cannot get everything cheap, ther’s still constraint some way
Agreed. Re-badging is an understandable strategy, but there is a trade off.
It has many benefits in the short term, but what of the long term. A car company needs distinctive design if it is to establish brand presence. The current strategy works with local market and limited exports, but will not grow Proton’s market share.
No need to even look far for an example. Kia has already shown us what can be done with a bit of boldness, and unified design language.
For now, its a bit sad, we have a Satria there, an Inspira rebadge here, a Perdana somewhere hugely overdue for re-design. Just a bunch of car models, with nothing tying them together.
C’mon Proton! Loyal supporter here, not just a critic for no reason, we want you to be the best!
Perdana also gonna be a rebadge ler….
Galant in Japan also consider as the same category for Eterna (Perdana),
Currently the Lancer we get here is also call as Galant Fortis in Japan. Get the point?
So the Inspira’s a 2-in-1 replacement model then? Replacing the Waja & Perdana?
the price is high not becoz of Proton. don’t blame them. its becoz of the taxes. an Exora M-line without all of the taxes is like, RM30k.
i tired of this statement “the price is high not becoz of Proton. don’t blame them. its becoz of the taxes. an Exora M-line without all of the taxes is like, RM30k”. can somebody give me price this exora at Langkawi..
u can calc urself
proton pay
37.5% excise duty
13% import duty – grey area not really know this part work but proton do
pay import duty
10% sales tax
= 47.5% tax not include import duty
net selling price H-line not on the road price = RM68784.50 = RM69k
= RM69k – 47.5%(RM69k)
= ~RM36k i think the price is more less like that. M-line similar calc
thank you for the calculation..but i just look at simple basis comparable why alza prices here and langkawi just different RM6K++ only..same apply to proton or lower i guess coz national car.
i think you’re proton cybertroop(somebody will reply this comment)..
Your calculation is too simple and basic.
I think u should go to college to learn economic and also International Business
So that your mind will not be so narrow
this inspira is not proton core…..this just filing the gap without to much investment. paul has stated that this model will be sell around 1k per month..the core model r saga, exora and persona..n maybe emas in the future…
base on my understanding..need clarification from paultan.org n u guys!
they need to pay royalties to mitsu though and high excise duty for 2.0(50%discount for p1) and i think they must pay import duties(under the MSP-multi sourcing part) also coz only 26% (max 65%) malaysian content which is 10% n sales tax(10%)
Yup correct, this helps them compete in a segment quickly with low cost allowing to concentrate R&D on the core models. That’s what I understood from the previous article as well.
go change the gov la, don’t vote them in the next election. or join political party, move up to become PM. or establish a new party, goal of the party: to abolish all taxes on vehicles and sell every car less than RM30k. or move your assss out out this country
abolish all taxes on vehicles? To regain all the tax lost, how about rise alcohol & tobacco tax? Government service tax? Sales tax of all the food,drinks, groceries? Sounds better? Little kid
as jeremy top gear said……”MALAYSIA NOT MAKE CARS BUT MAKE MONEY” lol
if make but no money in return, why make it in the first place?
stupid
hmm… Why do people thinks that jeremy knows everything all about car?? A lot of people can talk.. make a tv show about car..
If he is really that good.. then he should have an experience in “develpment & testing” on a car .. then only I can only pay attention to what he said…
For me.. he’s just a plain basher..
agree with u openmind.. good comment… but as MD Proton say, rebadge Mitsu Lancer is to get more money to develop new car. so it’s a solid reason why they sell it at highest price
They should retain the Waja name.. should be Proton Waja Inspira… not only Proton Inspira.. Bad naming strategy.. Yaa.. they’ll never learn.. Its only Proton anyway..
Yup totally agree on naming strategy. Saga, Waja, Perdana are great iconic names. A shame if we end up losing these names when the models are replaced. Is there no one up in Proton management reading this?
waja name cant sold worldwide.. see, waja change to impian if want go to UK or Australia..
use IMPIAN? then many of you say proton is dumb in putting name…
so, Inspira is a good name indeed.. after this, the replacement will using Inspira too..
Not entirely true. Would you buy a car named Termite, or Wasp or Ant? Maybe or maybe not, but many love Beetles and Spyders.
Would you buy a Toyota Cardamom or a Kia Coriander? Don’t think so, but somehow Porsche can sell tons of expensive Cayennes and soon, Cajun.
Not saying you are wrong, but just saying that sometimes, we shouldn’t hide behind a name to sell a car, we should have a great car, that sells the name.
As a compromise, I semi-agree that Proton is not ready to sell the Waja name to the world, but nothing wrong with keeping it locally. One day, when Proton is a strong brand we will be able to use the name, and people will accept it, as they will associate it with quality.
Who knows, one day Proton’s supercar division will compete with Porsche’s Panamera with the Proton Tanah Merah lol.
Protong’s supercar? You must be kidding me man. The only way Protong can defeat another supercar such as Porsche, is for them to rebadge another Porsche and rename it as Protong Porcelain (porcelain – a very fragile figurine).
If they do, you can’t afford one…
aiyoohh.. wait for new Lotus lor.. you’ll be suprised
agree with AIM, quality will bring prosperity, when proton make quality their no 1 priority even use the name “proton katak’ also doesn’t matter. all strong brand had quality behind their reputation. proton MUST have zero tolerance policy in quality aspect of their product, then we will see proton as a strong brand.
Proton borrowed Mitsu’s Homework and submit the assignment to Cikgu.
If Proton put her name on the homework “WAJA”, proton is humiliating her ownself to an Even higher extent.
Cikgu wil scold proton kau kau.
Pakai name Inspira, cikgu praises proton very inspiring. Proton dan cikgu Happy, rakyat manyak suka Hati.
“Waja is being discontinued. This is not a replacement,” Group Managing Director Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir said at the soft launch of the latest edition of Proton’s family here.
Waja’s international name is called Impian
unfortunately..waja line has been terminated forever
Congrate Proton….! Looking more popular model to be rebadge….
Pls compare our Inspira Spec with Lancer spec…..anything miss out or added…?
refer BH paddle shifter Proton use plastic compare Lancer use magnesium.. also the bumper.. so little different lor..
Proton for me is like a converter, convert car from other carmakers! wooot!
than myvi?
Ya Kamal you are right
Both Proton and Perodua are converterS lol
is the booking fee refundable?
mybe it will be official malaysian police car replace the waja sometime next year
that means more taxpayer money to pay the fuel for 2.0L engine and more expensive engine parts..
which in turn they shouldn’t abolish car tax like all the basher dreamers want!
but fuel consumption for 2.0 L MIVEC engine is good
Lancer owners must court claim from Proton and Mitsubishi to refund RM20K for product cheating!
Ins-pirah Proton! Get lost Proton!
sore loser..
Macam ni kot bunyi salesman UMW and Honda
hahaha..ramai salesman Honda ngan Toyota kat sini..huhu…sakit hati nampk
Aku pakai Honda, padan muka salesman dia. Walau beli pada 31/12, satu sen pun tak kurang harga. Memang kualiti baik tapi cekek darah punya harga.
ins’pirated’..80k..mm…any latest h-peformance car at the same price?
takde nama lain ke?…
sounds like HONDA INSPIRE …
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Inspire
Thats what I’m talking about.. again.. Its proton maaa.. They rebadge the car… Why not rebadge the name instead..
Acer Inspire…same also
i thought the name is Aspire?
TRUE..
fail…
Do proton out of rainbow?
Come on la Proton give other color to our road…
Red, white, black and silver again? sure boring…
can we have beloved blue like gen2 ?
And the silver makes the car look really boring…like an old Pug. Mitsus need crazy lively colors. The Lancer Sportback blue (it was here on paultan a while back) is an awesome example.
Should pick 1.8 manual version, good response, low maintenance of the gearbox.
Seriously i dont understand why got people give a thumb down on ur comment. Whats wrong about getting manual?
manual tranny is suit people who wash clothes using manual washing machine n listen on manual freq tuning radio..
Don’t la say like that, my E39 just masuk workshop yesterday to convert to manual :)
Manual transmission is for those who enjoy the feedback from the car. For those who love the fact that they control most of the crucial part of the car, for those who love to rev their tachometer to redline and for those who have passion in driving.
I have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought LV replica only 200-300 je…
Proton Waja,….Inspira….Replica….
Well done Proton…more than what rakyat deserve….
I am not ordering one…not at 80-85k….dont have that kind of money
bagus…u tak ada duit, naik Honda EX5 lah
mwahahahah….
I know most malaysian are rich…with help from Bank…loan 9 years….
30 years ago…people would be embarrass if they take 3 years loan to buy car… Today we proudly say…I can afford a 95k car….in fact we got no more than 10k cash….
as i said …. Malaysian (mostly) deserve this … with over a 100 month repayments…its less than RM1k….
Even if Malaysian have that kind of money, who wants to spent RM80k+++ on a Protong?
Only a die hard Protong apologist would do that.
It’s okay if my power windows doesn’t work, for as long I can get hot chicks in my ride and ride her later. Keh keh keh.
look, who’s talking here?
maybe syoh have already paid the booking fee since he is a thoroughbred of proton basher. like he bought previous proton cars just for the sake of bashing.
true i think he will buy inspira…he own all proton car
Expensive …… Not worth it…… Local supplier will forsee a lot of manufacturing defect for the first two year as history shown…. Should price around RM 67 to 69 k like thai people got their Altis….
no the cheapest altis they get is around RM77k (751k Baht) for 1.6 J M/T
malaysian lowest is 1.6 E A/T price RM105k with airbag, thai is baht 799k(RM83k) without dual airbag, back sensor, foglamp, no Anti-jam Power Window(at least blehland hav at driver door)
..where did u get ur figures..mine from thai toy n malaysia toy
http://www.toyota.co.th/en/models/Altis/altis_grade.asp
http://www.toyota.com.my/altis/specs-and-price/
Bro, u forget to check for the Langkawi & Labuan price…
http://www.toyota.com.my/altis/specs-and-price/price-list.dot
Corolla Altis 1.6E = RM 66,819.68
no not forget…. i want only tax car for comparison..more justify
malaysia 1.6 E A/T – is altis cbu or ckd. if cbu 115% if ckd 95% = RM105k
thai 1.6 E A/T – VAT 7% = RM83k
it is like if malaysia n thai do not hav tax…malaysian is even cheaper than thais
langkw price RM67k
thai w/out vat RM77k
the price of Lancer GT is only 55K without tax.
proton is acquiring the manufacturing license and assembly themselves maybe at cost of 40K each (just a figure). Now they are selling at 96K. how many percent of profit. do the math!
demn, i hate proton so much!!
kecoh la lu. pegi la beli kete dekat Langkawi.
everytime nak ungkit pasal tax. lu dah berapa tahun duduk malaysia oi?
lu tak nak beli Proton Inspira, lu duduk diam naik LRT sudah.
LRT pun takde la bro. Lu nak beli ke pun inspira ni? aku tanak beli pun.. sebab kereta copy.. buat sakit hati jer..
and u drive myvi……..
good reply!! hehehe..
pls dont forget that actually Proton car also got tax.
they still hav to pay 45% excise duty(after 50%discount), sales tax 10%, i think they hav to pay import duty(MSP) coz only 26% malaysian content bout 10%tax..at least tax is 65%..base from ur fig RM26k tax = RM66k cost price..
RM95k-RM26k=RM26k
they untung RM26k
You do the maths, excise tax for local cars around 45%. Think Proton’s tax free is it?
nowaday mati pun kene bayar
Proton also got tax maa..
they sell 96K coz they encourage us to use more public transportation and to cut down green house gases to the atmosphere.
dah sokong umno mesti la kena tax…
bosan dengan komen-komen yang membunuh..baru dilancar, macam-macam benda tak puas hati…korang ni nak apa rakyat Malaysia oi??
Kadang-kadang kritik tu datang dari perasaan sayang, bukan benci.
Unfortunately Protong’s Apologist, Salesman and Staff doesn’t think that way.
You see, orang macam ini, salah satu kelemahan dia, suka kena puji, bila kena kritik, cepat kecil hati, sampai berdendam nak ‘black magic’ sekali.
Dengan mentaliti sedemikian, macam mana nak maju?
kalau nak kritik, bagi point yang betul, bakan bash dengan spekulasi sampai macam “black magic”.
Amboi dengan mentaliti sedemikian, macam mana nak maju?
To SYOH: hang nak kritik, kritik la elok2…ni nama kenderaan pun nak jadi isu…color kereta pun nak jadi isu..ooo..toyota ke, honda ke bikin warna sama je takde la plak nak komen2…
“sampai berdendam nak ‘black magic’ skali”…ape maksud hang? proton lepas kena kritik, nak bagi black magic kat tukang komen? matangnya hang ni…kalau macam ni pikir, macam mana nak berkembang?
aku nak KURANGKAN tax, bukan hapuskan tax. susah ke nak kurangkan tax? mati ke? Opp lupa, agak berape harga Lancer kat Siam ye? nak compare je. jgn lak soh aku pindah sana.. korang ni mmg cepat gitu hehe..
ala kurangkan tax konon.. apa-apapun tax yg kau bayar.. itu utk disalurkan kpd pembangunan negara dan generasi baru, termasuk anak cucu kau juga… itulah mentaliti korang… asyik2 nak minta diskaun aje… apa!! masa kau masuk meminang isteri kau dulu, adakah kau minta diskaun mas kahwin dan minta kurangkan (tax) hantaran? memalukan kompeni aje le….. subsidi nak? Duit subsidi tulah dihasilkan dari TAX, faham tak? kalau berukpun nak subsidi, tax tak sanggup bayar pulak!! pooraaaahhhhh lah!!! hehehehe jangan marah, aku ni patriotik tau… sokonglah Proton… betapapun Proton jatuh, rebah, tersungkur… kitalah yg akan bertanggungjawab utk angkat Proton kembali ke landasan yg betul. Satu hari nanti, Proton setanding Mercedes, BMW, Volvo, Audi dan sebagainya…. siapa yg akan rasa bangga? anak cucu kita juga… tak kan orang German pulak, kan?
Hahahaha damn funny! Tapi betul, hopefully satu hari Proton setanding merc, BMW, Audi.
Why cant local automakers have better names in their car models..
Notice..
KembaRA
viVA
wiRA
InspiRA
waJA
exoRA
persoNA
These names has like “RA”
SilviA
EvorA
CorollA
AltezzA
CelicA
IntegrA
ImprezA
and If you realize… malaysiA.
OMG I SEE A PATTERN
just kidding, all names are good.. maybe you’re the one with bad taste for names?
All from Toyota
Highlander
Hilux
Avalon
Camry
Vios
Matrix
Prius
RAV4
Yaris
4Runner
OH MY GODDES ! I dont see any pattern !? You need a doctor SomeRandumDude
you are implying that Lotus also have no better names, all of their cars start with ‘E’
Dude.. Try to give some suggestion of the ‘so-called desirable’ name for the local automaker…
We’ll see who can handle NOT TO LAUGH at ur suggestion… :-)
No offence…
paddle shift..???
Book one already! Can’t wait for it.
which model??
A red 1.8 Auto. I don’t care what the bashers are saying. It’s my money and I have faith in P1!
both thumbs up to u bro! like u said.. ITS UR MONEY… gth bashers!!
nk kepuasan & quality ;) yg tulis blog ni pn engineer proton kn, i hope u understand
tulis blog ke yg bg komen bro?
apa ke bodo dia ni.. bila pulak Paul keje Proton?
hahahahahaha/
Paul, what’s your Proton employee number?
niceness for a rm80k car.. but will proton improve their power window parallel with the car’s outlook?
sudah basi la.. outdated issue yg dah resolve pun..
That’s why. Some ppl still stuck in 90s.
so in like that how the used car has current mit lgt drop price?haha this move make a big wave.
Wonder if Mitsu’s CVT is as good as Nissan’s.
I have tested both, and no they’re not even remotely as good as Nissan’s. The same CVT used in Sylphy is used in Murano. Yes the Lancer GT has virtual gears, but the Sylphy hardly even need that because it always seem to be at the correct ratio coupled with the torque available. Nissan’s CVT is designed to provide instant dose of torque as low as 1K RPM and you’ll see your speedometer needle moving at good pace (while your tacho stays constant).
Mitsu’s CVT feels rubbery at start of acceleration but will still lock-up eventually, only I’m not sure at which RPM. I still cannot get why with the latest Altis CVT Toyota thought that the artificial jerk (feel like conventional gearbox) is necessary. With Nissan when you feel the need to floor the accelerator the RPM will build up anyway and quickly settle once you achieved the desired pace. For example on highway driving 2000RPM = 120km/h (really on a Sylphy), you floor just a bit to achieve 140km/h, let’s say a quick burst to 3500RPM and settles at 2500RPM. Really, your right foot is the modulator.
It’s just that the Sylphy doesn’t really set anybody’s heart on fire.
i couldn’t agree more with kucing garfield !
regarding current lancer owner cvt gearbox over heat if u read there proton redesign bumper for cooling cvt gearbox… lancer owner can change to inspira bumper and enjoy unheated cvt gearbox now !
fyi lancer ori has a radiator for gearbox la
still the prob not solved..now proton improve it
improved by what? design new bumper?
who can confirm it is improved? all only KHABAR ANGIN…
only experiment / testing can tell when the car is out.
why care about re-badge lancer or not..it’s just normal everywhere in the world…even VW is going to re-badge suzuki alto….if you can afford lancer..go ahead and buy it..you dont like inspira..just ignore it..
By the way…I not really favor M’sia made car…But It still Malaysia organization..I am support their initiative to compete globally…this is how you start..
I hope G will announce that tax for P1 car will be reduce in tomorrow belanjawan. Its good to have persona premium at RM45k, Exora premium at RM60k and inspira 2.0 at RM75k , owh and saga premium at RM25k, i dont mind if the G want to protect local car maker by imposing high tax for imported car, but make sure the tax for P1 is reduce, reduce a lot.
but i think proton has been given 50% discount on excise duty
and proton all this while paying 13% import duty
in chapter 7 National Economic Recovery Plan (late 90’s during 97′ economic turmoil)
# Raise exemption of excise duty on Proton cars from 50 per cent to 70 per cent for a limited period. This will mean a loss in Government revenue of RM 126 million in 1998.
# Suspend temporarily the 13 per cent import duty on Protonís components as an inducement to export to new markets, provided it is consistent with the WTO rules. This waiver will cost the Government RM 58.3 million in revenue in 1998.
To Mr. Paul.
Today I dah order Inspira…so lepas ni I nak rebadge lagi to Lancer GT bodykit. Boleh tak I join Lancer GT Club lepas tu ? :P
keep dreaming bro..
honda also dreaming what..Power of dreams.
lancer gt user detected…
but I oredi submitd d form maa…:P
i guess the quality is lower than ORIGINAL lancer,
surely cheap plastic is every where,
this is proton all abut, copy & paste.
ori lancer is filled with cold hard PLASTIC anyway, what’s the difference?
dude! I think u have never been inside the original lancer..
the japaneseman in japan just only smile or even laugh when seeing the malaysian use the mitsu car as a proton.
what a desperate malaysian to buy lancer.
do’t bother with the name of inspira, bcz it just nothing.
rebadging is good for manufacturer, but it still a rubbish for the public to see.
inspira or waja, when it become a proton car, it will be the same how u gonna face the quality of the car, the service of the proton service centre and overloaded proton cars on the road like rubbish.
haha..say no to proton
what u say,yes or no,does not matter.only that,please la,don’t forget to mention Perodua too,because that company also make a lot of bigger rubbish for the public to see…
Have you see any original design by P2? P1 do have their own design anyway…
One more , hope that you’re not the owner of neither P1 nor P2.
the jap must be even happier n laugh to the ears that european n yanks rebadge their cars
and did malaysian laugh when china rebadge the Gen2..i repeat PROTON GEN2..its a common thing nowadays to rebadge for economic of scale..
NICE CAR!
HOPE TO SEE INSPIRA ON THE ROAD SOON! REALLY CAN’T WAIT.
By the way, when will the SAGA facelift will be launced?
all these basher can only afford second hand kancil; that’s why they butthurt so much..
anyway… although the price seem a little bit expensive for everage malaysian Joe; but RM80k is okay meh for C-segment car…
if u so rich go buy original lancer lor.
see!! my sister that work in the Ministry did not lie to me when she said the proton mgmt come to declare the proton inspira price for approval…
most of the basher here and surfer here only could affor below rm5ok only..pity u all
no USB port include???..sabar2..kene tgu pas 2x minor change n special edition…:-p
OMFG! This is the ‘prettiest’ rims i ever seen!! :-[
Lancer Gti Owner, u can say byebye to your car value now..
Who would want to buy Mitsubishi Lancer which is similar to Proton Ispira? Anyone?
the rims are ugly! proton never have a stylo rim.
persona rims are not bad
Why not call it Proton Insipirasi? lolx. I notice Proton love to use funny funny names…
Juara, Satria, Gen, Wira,
Next name will be Proton Hero, Canggih, Mantap, Gaya, Mutu, Keunggulan?
No offence to Proton Owner here.
how about Proton Aspirasi
Paul,
Any news from mitsubishi-rebange Pesona & Exora..
Hope u can share some photo here..
My opinion Inspira is different from Waja. Cannot use the same brand as we know Inspira is come from Mitsu…. Waja is totally out of context. Perhaps should not be consider Inspira as Waja replacement at all.
As a Malaysian, I am sad that PROTON, which has about 25 experience in automotive industry, STILL unable to come out with cars that can really shines and admire by others. Can they come up with something FRESH? Are those Proton’s designers and engineers really that amateur? Taking about partnership etc etc, what they have learned?
Take taxi better ler..
they do make something fresh exora, persona n saga…all hav been bash by malaysian basher
Proton seems geared to provide cars to the masses; focusing on affordable, reliable models.
Keep in mind that proton’s in house models (saga, persona, neo) are all really budget cars developed for a newly-industralized country (Malaysia!). They are more expensive OTR in Thailand compared to Malaysia yet they are competitive there. So I dont think they are doing too badly.
The EMAS concept is a step in the right direction as well, with EU enforcing emissions regulations that would require car makers to reduce the _average_ emission of it’s entire range – eg. Aston Martin forced to rebadge the Toyota iQ lols.
The inspira seems to be a Perdana replacement…as they focus their RnD on their core budget models.
Buy now if you’re really interested … few more months down the road when the local made part form 60% of the components , god bless u .. hahahhahahaha!!!!!!
I got a sneaky feeling that if Proton does more re-badge cars with low local contents, it will end up making tons of money.
Just the other day I was having lunch with some executives from a Thai car parts maker to whom local parts vendors of Proton sub-contract their orders to. I am not at liberty to disclose the exact prices of those parts and the profit margin$$$ these Proton vendors are making, all I can say is that if Proton does not revamp their parts procurement program, they will not be going anywhere.
Last time, the government excise duties you pay each time you buy a car from Proton is actually given back to Proton. I am not sure if are they still doing that, if so, there is really no reason why Proton is making so little money unless of course they are forced to buy over priced parts from these vendors.
Working on the above premises, I conclude that Proton can make more money if they use lesser local parts. Re-badge is good.
foresee will have many evo 10 ah beng wanna be soon !! and bankcruptcy rate goes high coz kenot afford paying car installement.
Wooi…finally Proton so call “waja inspira” release for booking.
From the article above, i have a big shocked of the price range offer.
Initially i think the range is between 70k – 85k, why now the gap is so huge?
I think all the people who waiting for so long will be very disappointed.
Imagine with the local part 26%, do you think it worth to buy?
So much things were changed, do the engineer test any aspects, especially in the safety area with suspension, rims, types changing. (do the airbags changing also?)
Let us compare a little bit
100% ori Mits 2.0L = RM 120K
74% Proton Ins 2.0L = RM 94K
Saving = 26k
26% changing / 26k saving = every 1% changing will help you save RM1k
Do you think 1% changing from Japan to local part just save RM1k, is there worth? Please also think about the quality, reliable and safety.
Somemore, proton will partially reduce from 74% to 60% for the following year. Do you think still worth it?
I am not a mits owner.
I am a person who waiting for long time (since 2009) for this launching, i searching anywhere in the blog to get the latest information. Finally, i disappointed on the price.
As a national car maker, they should lower down the price for our, Malaysian to purchase.
if you calculate that way, perhaps the 26k u saved can try to get evo x halfcut ;)
Not i calculate that way, all the car maker also calculate like that. Every single part changing will help to save their cost.
cost cut = revenue up
If you are the businessman, you should know.
agree with u.. price should be much lower than that.. but I thk it for Proton to get enough money to build their own global car.. I thk it’s persona, saga project
Not so long ago …you took a bus ride from Seremban to Port Dickson using Utam Singh Omnibus Company. The actual fair is 0.30 cents. But you would only pay 0.20 cents and the bus conductor gave you 0.10 cents ticket. What a good pricing ? You get 0.10 cents, the bus get 0.10 cents and the conductor (or rather the facilitator) gets 0.10 cents. With the same principle, that’s the formula worked very well all the times, the govt. gets it’s share, proton gets it’s due and the consumer also get’s the slice. Malaysia boleh ! Do not complain your money your choice …
I just booked mine. !!
1.8 with paddle shifts … WOO HOO !!
Try the new PROTON showroom at OLD KLANG ROAD
They are having a PROMO on all models – launch of new showroom
How come ur 1.8 is with paddle shifts?
1.8 have paddle shift???
i thought for 2.0 only and paul already said that paddle shift for 2.0..
1.8 only use gear shift..
I think he’s over excited. I hope you choose the correct model, with paddle shift or without paddle shift. You might still able to change your mind. Read Paul’s report again.
I was once conned on the model they called my pride and joy.. on boy, he sure is into some trouble soon.
gonna be lotsa beng walan in the road soon.
mali ah beng ah beng sekalian… your dream has come true.
add more stickers and neon/led lights so that your inspira-beng will look like a moving christmas tree!
what’s the point of having R&D department when you’re just going to rip off another brand ?
Might as well call them C&P instead…..Copy & Paste….what a bunch of failures! feel sorry for the GT folk!
thats business my friend, have u read the previous entry why they buy this design from mitsu?
Learn to read please.
i think paultan.org must impose system that make people read articles like 1 random question per article(each article 1Q) before they can give as many comment they wan..so that we know people here actually read before given dumb comment
at least this look way better than the current waja lineup. no offense to all current waja owners. can give comment only after test driving it. hehe.
Anyone notice one of the wheels, the rim has only three nuts. That’s the result of production cost savings?
http://paultan.org/photo/index.php?album=proton-inspira-soft-launch-at-coe&image=dsc_0696b.jpg
http://paultan.org/photo/index.php?album=proton-inspira-soft-launch-at-coe&image=dsc_0688b.jpg
http://paultan.org/photo/index.php?album=proton-inspira-soft-launch-at-coe&image=dsc_0697b.jpg
tht’s a dud / dummy part oni d front portin…. d 3 bolts, i saw it too, in the pics of course…. they r using just a screw on bolt it seems
tiara also using 3 bolts/nuts right?? so if its true-, its nothing new.
Actually Proton understand what is your needs and wants.
That is Y they came out with INSPIRA below 80K
so that u can buy and everyone also can buy
after that, u change some minor parts like front bumper + butt, both comes with Mitshubishi Evo Logo. cost of modification is below RM3k but your car look like Mitsubishi Evo RM300K
Don’t tell me u afford to buy Lancer Evo RM300,000.00
U should say Thanks to Proton & the master mind of Proton (proton founder)
turn your dream come true
cud be the most ah beng ……… stick to the P1 la .. no need to change anything .. at least .. be proud with what u wear la der. .. cheers
er, perhaps u should know that’s not a full car =.= it wouldn’t be that short if it is in full length…find another point to bash please
bro, theo’s not bashing, im not doing it too… we r just highlighting… yup, knew tht the glassed dispaly front is a dummy, the lorry cant possibly carry a real inspira n yup, the length is short too…, “…a dud / dummy …” im referreing to the mock up front… not bashing here bro…
not bashing…
but can they make it real for the display item?
if they cannot do properly on the show off item…
how people can convince the quality are good
80K only means higher crime rate since every ah beng needs money to get one
Now i know how it felt to evo’s owner when proton rebadged their car.. nvm, I’ll replace the name on the back of my car to proton and the emblem too..:D..hahaha
Hey, the front looks way better than the original Lancer.. !
Yeah agree the pricing would have been more attractive if it’s priced slightly lower, now this has to compete with the korean’s contender Forte.
The proton re-design front bumper n grille really really really spoiled the good looking original lancer my god…. wat a rip-off..
the mitsu original design is much better, fierce yet elegant, hav a look again http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/showroom-lancer-overview.php
again the eustatic is a subjective, my friend…
u may say it is ugly,
ur friend up there saying it is cool….
the other may say cute, some say it is weird…
Me? I vote for ‘cool’! at least some refreshment look for the lancer…or maybe an additional choice for lancer modders? :)
just my 2 cents
Wow! This is indeed a signal to one thing – Proton roars!
is it a must to change the name? y don’t just stick to the old name? does it bring so much difference?
1 thing that i don’t like about proton is they keep on changing the name of a model..i would really love to see the evolution of a model so that we can be proud of how the model developed and progress over years. for example of BMW. how they really proud of their 3 series fmily. hum.
nevertheless i always admire DSZ and his co’s determination to “bring back proton to whre it once belong to”
and we all know who’s the one brought the fall of proton dulu-dulu. ceh
Shall we see current lancer owner convert to Inspira? hehehe
At least you got Lotus DNA in it…that’s something….
2 yrs free service package worth RM1658. Does that mean that this car need more than RM800 worth of parts replacement and service in its first year?
if you count it that way, it only means rm66.67 per month, or everytime around rm200 for each 3months, how is that expensive?
seem normal for me.. i pay rm200++ each time for service
haha… Proton just raise the amount to the maximum… perhaps using the high mileage car’s calulation.
tak de duit nak servis tak payah la beli keta yang RM80 000.. apa punya orang daa..
major service u need more…i do my major service around RM400 for 40k++km
Nice picture Mr. PaulTan!
The first picture looks like as if Protong Inspira came out from a “Tin Milo” wraps (which it actually did; metaphorically).
To summarize it all in one question;
Is that cursed Protong’s engineered power windows will be installed as well?
Thank you for reading!
power window again…….i hav use saga from jan 2008 till now oct 2010…no curse power window but im cursing u to be tersepit at any power window car
should call it as “The All New Waja” now with the new “Waja” look …..
There”s a good reason why they want to rename it. Waja give some bad image to the nation on the quality..(though the latest Waja CPS is a very good one..but not many people drive Waja CPS.. so people just remember the old (not that good) Waja.
so… Proton want it to have a rebirth.. and give it a good nice name as INSPIRA. =)
“When you change your lifestyle, you want to change your car to a better one, so we need to offer a better car,” said Syed Zainal.
“Proton will continue to evolve. Customers will grow in terms of demand, their pockets will grow bigger and they will want to live a better lifestyle.”
Looks like everybody is getting rich eh!
if I rich and want to change lifestyle, I’ll go for continental car.
then just go la… its ur money dude!!
ok ok, i go for continental tyre
u don need to be rich to change lifestyle….its more like from being simple guy to sophisticated guy, from kg lifestyle to city lifestyle that wat u call lifestyle change..getting rich is not change of lifestyle…that change purchasing power n class
come let we book it now!!!!
I wonder how did Proton get the name ‘Inspira’…. Just to share, remember last time when Proton organised ‘name the MPV contest’? We all know 1 lady won Exora in that contest. I also suka2 submitted but of course, I didn’t win la…. & guess what, I submitted proton INSPIRA…… Hehehe… Dunno whether just coincident or Potong recycle some names from previous contest…. Proton Boleh!!!
ade org cakap peraduan teka nama proton ni tak ail..and ada possibility diaorang cilok ur idea.anyway I like this car!
bro the naming contest for this model was done internally…grand prize is rm10k…
Yeah…me too..I suggested the same name for the Exora..now I feel a little pissed-off. For us who suggested Inspira before…God knows we came up with Inspira name first.
Sad case for Proton, after 25 years they are still a copying without no innovation and improvement
what do u know about innovation and improvement?
which part of this car is called novelty innovation? Silly Proton fanboy.
u should read previous article…it has stated there waiting for u to read
how about they put Lotus DNA in that car?
or…
u just can’t read English?
did Lancer done anything on the overheating CVT? Take a look at Inspira’s bumper.. there’s much bigger hole for the ventilation but yet Proton able to prevent the CVT overheat. This is innovative..
Mitus dont let Proton retune the Handling and Ride with difference approach on the tuning.. Mitsu is affraid people realise Mitsu’s handling is actually not that good.. Applying Lotus DNA is another Innovation.
Basher must learn to read.
Smart guys get it ? Who the heck came up with this? It’s worse than Daring to Dare….
the meaning is simple, You dare you buy la…..after that …….
For the consumers, i guess this model is giving access to better technology at cheaper prices. IN other words, the rebadging and savings on RnD is transferred to the consumer, us Malaysians. Proton is just completing their line up for a market segment that does not warrant complete RnD investment. This is a decent explanation.
On the flip side, if you look at the leading car makers of the world, rebadging only occurs across brands which are co-owned, and usually they are using components from the same parts bin. What economies of scale is Proton working towards in this area? Have they made attempts to share platforms and parts with other brands? Have they been able to sell and RnD to other brands? If they can, then they can stop complaining about why Proton cant achieve economies of scale.
“rebadging only occurs across brands “, Wrong. not all rebadging occurs across co-owned brands. peugeot and mitsubishi has also worked on rebadging. likewise aston and toyota and also holden and toyota.
If the prices we see here are confirmed, then I have a sinking feeling that it is not that affordable. We all had expectations and indeed I was very happy to learn that the Lancer is going to be rebadged.
Setting aside our sentiment about the faux sports car which is the Lancer GT, the car was launched in 2007 as the 2008 car and is not exactly brand new. Kia Forte has emerged (as Naza Forte here), and soon to be launched new Hyundai Avante with its sleek looks may prove to be a hamper to Inspira. Reading into the prices, maybe Proton was looking at Cruze as the yardstick which is unfair, it being a CBU model, not CKD.
What the other cars don’t have is only pedigree but certainly their reputation is moving up in their more important markets. In my opinion Proton should take the fight to these two, not the other Japs which have their own followings. The Mitsu is not perfect in the first place compared to the segment leader Civic or even the boring Autocar Asean Car Of The Year 2008 Nissan Sylphy.
Compound that to higher interest rates that apply to local cars, then really the Inspira is not really to inspire the rest of us who thinks rationally. It is meant to be a low volume seller and the price is sufficiently adjusted to justify that. If the sales volume is higher then there should be fat bonuses for the marketing people. If it is lower than expected, easy, just offer discounts to move the stocks. Then people (those who can’t really afford the cars) get nearly 0% downpayment deals and trapped into settling into long term loans for cars that don’t have sufficiently good resale value.
Such a funny market Malaysia is when coming to car market a lot of it is to do with perception rather than actual value. Nevertheless, I hope I can afford one. Just like the latest Honda ad, that shall be when my left brain agrees with the right brain. Cheers!
” This is understandable as most laymen who do not track the auto industry as closely as enthusiasts would not know that the modern trend is to badge engineer your non-core models (or even your core models!) to save on development costs so that cash can be focused on core models.” –> This sentence is from previous entry by Paul.
So maafkan ajelah komen LAYMEN LAYMEN ittu.
Yg bminat dn tertarik hati beli je la..yg tk minat,yg kecewa,yg nk mitsu ori dn tak tertarik tk yah beli..susah sgt ke nk fahami minat dn kesukaan org lain.tk yah kutuk lebih2…tk de mende yg smpurna dlm dunia ni…hdup utk mengutuk je tk guna pun..berilah sokongan kpd proton….aku bangga dgn proton walau aku bkn pemilik proton..
nicely said bro. bravo
yup…we must agree to disagree~
Who want to buy Mitsubishi emblem and Lancer emblem,, contact me,,, hehe time to make money….
got lotus badge?
Indeed there seems to be a gap between RM 60k – 75k price range for a sedan. The only few that crosses my mind is the Vios Js, the old Waja and Hyundai Accent (there are some others but mostly it’s at the end limits of the range). If your are shopping for a car within this price range, you are mostly stuck with small MPVs & suzuki swift. This might explain how Vios manages to sell well among the middle executives.
menyampah betul aku proton nak tunjuk separuh2 body ni, tunjuk jer laa semua, tak payah nak buat gimmick mcm tu
ni lah marketing strategy bro..teaser teaser.hehehe
proton should consider this:
proton march 40k
proton lancer 80k
proton S40 120k
proton S80 160k
then we can send T and H back to Japan.
hi dreamer, i like your idea, what about proton xc60, i like that one…hehe
ha3.. should be RM 150 K kot
Proton Rank
Saga RM30K
Savy RM40K
Persona RM46K
Gen2 RM50K
Inspira RM80K
Perdana RM100K
What is the difference with March, S40, S80 & lancer?
Proton range is more
pick 1 u like
1 malaysia
My feel is getting adge engineer is definitely good, but it seems like the strategy use is similar to Indonesia, imagine how the Toyota and Daihatsu works there, Avanza being sell as Xenia, and both model is on the road.
comon bro….if all u can afford above 90 k sure ur choice is honda la
Price Comparison
Mitsubishi Lancer GT (Thai) = RM106,877.71 THB1,034,000
Toyota Corolla Altis 2.0G (Thai) =RM100,149.24 THB 969,000
Honda Civic 2.0 (Thai) = RM108,608.75 THB 1,051,000.0
Proton Inspira 2.0 = RM96,000 ++
People who’ll buy Inspira will be getting a proper C segment Car at its true price, even lower than our neighbor country….. I’m tempted
For Price
http://www.toyota.co.th/en/models/Altis/altis_spec.asp
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.th/mitsubishi/model/modellineup.php
http://honda.co.th/th/civic/honda-civic.html
Interesting part is, look at how UMW Toyota jerking up Malaysians backside.
First thing to do is minus of 18″ rims and tyres and the deck spoiler, you may find that you’re paying the same for Inspira, not lower. Any word whether we’ll get Nappa leather? Another few Ks there. Please note everyone. I hope the end product will be on par with Mitsu Lancer GT.
Or else we’re really being sodomized in public. At least others do it in posh hotels or condos!
Basically u tried to say all vehicle 2.0 in Thailand is above RM100K?
See, how lucky we are?
At least we can enjoy 2.0 vehicle at below RM100K, even though we complete the modification from Inspira to Lancer
As conclusion, Thailand no son, that is Y they should pay more then RM100K for 2.0
But in Malaysia, Thanks to Proton because turn inspira 2.0 below RM100K
I Love U Proton
Keranamu Proton, merealisasikan semua impian kpd kenyataan
kaulah kebanggaan negara dan rakyat…
I believed so many Indonesian & Siamise wanted to be Malaysian
This is the most lazy re-badged car ever!!!
they’re not lazy. they know people will change it back to mitsu, so they’re helping us to keep the changes minimum so that we don’t have to spend too much money later. hahaha. but if i’m the one buying it, i will keep it as proton :)
nice move Proton, hopefully proton would recoupe and profited enuff money from this Inspira and upgrage Satria Neo, saga, persona, perdana & putra with much better engine, quality and look..
p/s : still opt for satria neo. 100% malaysian and 1000% better than dugong, kia, toyota etc!!
the first thing that goes thru my mind is how can I mod the car to look like lancer
very easy…you need to chnge these items only
1. front and back emblem (very important)
2. steering logo (very important)
3. wheel cap
4. engine cover
5. 4 windows to mitsu ori
6. skirting (if got)
7. cd player
i think thats all
good luck…Ngan
this car is really UMPPPPHHHHH!!!!!
From mitsu, proton rebadge it to Inspira,
From Inspira, owner rebadge it back to mitsu..
Just the matter of “badge”, we still ‘untung’, I guess… hehe..
we actually loss a lot friend please wake up… for the same money you get a camry (full spec) in usa…
haha… just thinking “in side the box” for this local auto industries matter bro (bleh dpt “darah tinggi’ beb kalo compare2 harga keta kt mesia ngan market luar ni.. hehe)…. coz we don’t have control of it.. that is gov policy, which really not benefit car lover like us, BUT just think positive bro, the money from duty/tax/etc maybe benefit others that needed a lot….
Always ‘syukur’ on what we have;-)
Yg bminat dn tertarik hati beli je la..yg tk minat,yg kecewa,yg nk mitsu ori dn tak tertarik tk yah beli..susah sgt ke nk fahami minat dn kesukaan org lain.tk yah kutuk lebih2…tk de mende yg smpurna dlm dunia ni…hdup utk mengutuk je tk guna pun..berilah sokongan kpd proton….aku bangga dgn proton walau aku bkn pemilik proton..
Still praying n hoping n dreaming one day proton will rebadge a merc or bmw o perhaps their very own lotus……zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
no.. ah beng don’t like european car… they prefer Japanese.conti car spare part mahal.. no resale value…. that’s how the word AH BENG JAPS WANNABE come out
I would buy it, ONLY IF its a Perodua rebadge :P
owh gosh.. I cant imagine that little Lancer wearing little Perodua’s badge.. If perodua do that car.. It will only be a trimmed down version.. Not like Proton… Raised that performance(ride and handling) and even overcome initial problem on Lancer(CVT overheat)… Can Perodua do it?
I dont think people will buy one sport car with Perodua.. full of lousy suspension and lots of wind rustling….+ worst handling at corner…dont ever to corner at high speed.
At least I don’t get remarks like ‘Oh, Proton macam tu lah bang’ at Perodua service centres (or other service centres, for that matter). It is a fact, and even Proton owners can attest to it lol
now lancer rebagde as proton inspira
next, PAJERO!!!! how i wish proton will rebadge PAJERO (not Pajero Sport aka triton tambah cabin blkg). and put it 3.2 Di-D Diesel Commonrail Turbo Intercoolerrr!!!!!
and also 18″ rim, adjustable Hi-Lo absorber and dual sunroof
make the price under rm200K surely it will potong overpriced yet underpowered Fortuner!!!!
when it comes to groceries, you know how to pick up your thing. what you dislike, you ignore them.
why when comes to car, you’re hard to make decision. choose one car and shut up already.
rebagde or no rebadge i dont care
if it suit my wallet
if it suit my taste
i definitely will buy one, what other people think does not matter
helloooooo..inspira…..
mee too..hello inspira…
come to mummy..come..come..
supermarket there i also hard to decide durez 003 or made in japan 003 or rebadge local 003…scare tak ngam…
Smart Guys Get It???
Forget about the re-badged or not~~~
I thought being a NATIONAL car means, they will produce affordable (and good?) car for the people to drive??
and now a 2.0 normal C segment car cost almost RM100k …
where else the closest encounter foreign car FORTE 2.0 cost around the same, and even with more features packed in…(6 air bags that i like the most!)
what is the purpose of being a National car builder then?
what does it deserve to use our rakyat money to grow then?
what does it deserve to being protect then??
clearly they just wanna make money only, it’s a fact, this fact u get it right, nothing to complain bout rebadge de…. jus dun relate it to our national pride…dun take it too personally, n things ll be much clearer.
define affordable.
worker earning below 1k too cant afford to buy saga or viva.
manager of small factory too cant afford to buy camry.
in the form of R&D grant..R&D don always give +ve result …my lecturer also receive r&d grant fr G to do research around RM100k during my research assistant days..that ur tax money u angry?
MITSU’s engine and cvt + LOTUS handling = INSPIRA
for those lancer ori owner…
did your lancer have LOTUS DNA in it?
lol
Proton not just re-barged it.. they fine tune it using LOTUS.. so for RM80K.. this inspira is worth you money
LOTUS good? who can CONFIRM and do the comparison?
ru sure? Can anybody confirm the handling by lotus? Lotus is a big name. If Proton can boost Inspira image/profit margin, sure there will be Lotus’s emblem.
stupid la this fella never read ka? clearly stated in pauls previous entry lotus ride and handling is there… FACEPALM
The front grille pattern is similar to subaru legacy bp/bl model released between year 2004 to 2006.
Great car, just change the rims and tyres and i think it would be awesome.
noo…….first thing…change the front logo to 3 diamonds…and then…u sell ur car, earn extra 20k….hahahaha….
Yeah right. Like they will never stick and paste everywhere in the car anything that related to Proton. You want to change that too?
if Proton says that after a year, they will put about 65% local ingredient, will the price of Inspira drop?
from wat i believe, the more local ingredient in the Malaysia market car, the lower tax will the car maker will face.
anybody can tell me this?
good one! But Proton Inspira’s price will not be reduced. A hot selling car will only have the car’s price get increased. Like what happened to Avanza last time…first lauch was below rm56…then increase up to now rm62++…
Dont worry.. by the time Inspira have many local ingredient, the specs will be raised. You will even like it more at that time.
Honda City above this pathetic Inspira
persona can smoke city easily
what say u?
harga mahal….sebagai kereta tempatan. Average RM80.000!
Planning to have this Inspira maybe end of 2011 (didnt have enough money).. but i’m quit worried if Proton used local vendor to invest 60% on inspira’s interior & exterior in the 2nd Phase of production..
Might changed my mind if Proton do that thing!!!I think the price still expensive.. Will think many time rather wanna get Power of Dream (City) or Proton…
Does the door handle and power window locally produced? Must be then….
Hu hu hu, this Inpirate will come with famous proton door handle and power window went ‘kaput’ all four door in 2 years. Waiting eagerly to hear from buyers… But don’t worry, it will not expensive because it is locally produced and the user can opt for Original Lancer door handle!!!!!!
If the door is modified by proton, ur dead. proton repalcement will cost you RM 350++ per unit only.
ha ha ha ….
lol at ‘smart guys get it’,
that is sooo wrong!, its like a sarcasm meaning, if u stupid enough u would get it.
i would strongly suggest proton change the tagline.
Inspira is looking good, good job proton, don care about the haters, haters just gonna hate more,
lancer owner butthurtin? :P
Proton should use “Don’t Be An Idiot, Buy The Inspira” ……..LOL
haha.. straight foward.. nice one.. :)
Ya, shud change tagline to ‘DRIVE LIKE A MAN, MAN’. And make an awesome ads ala Old Spice man :D
aik … rumors kata WAJA REPLACEMENT … awat nama inspira
bro.. when wira replacement model dulu they call it persona now rite.
waja is discontinued said by DSZ….along with perdana as paul mention in his previous articles
Smart Guys Get It,
Which Is Why They Wouldn’t Buy It
no.. if they wouldnt buy this but instead go for Vios or City, they are just morons
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Car Accessories shop : ” Full Lancer’s body kit conversion available!!! I’m start taking order now!! quick to order to avoid long waiting list~ ! ”
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it’s sure will be the case, another income for local spare parts shop wat~
I feel shame for Proton, Chinese said take his hot face to paste on people cold buttock.
Where is Proton own engine and own design. so many engineers and designers for what? only know how to copy and modified. almost 30 years still doing the same thing .We call it Malaysia Boleh! Copycatlah. Protected animal. The M.D of Proton said with paddle shift. Nothing to shoutlah, thing already in market so many years. Try to learn like Kia and Hyundai invite experience designers and engineers from others carmakers like Audi, VW etc to help us to design new car, if I am the PM I will not launch the car and put the thumbs up togehter. If no Proton we have better car and affordable to use .Everybody know right? Again shame for Proton.
hahaha…. when i see that ins~~pira~~ on the lorry, you know what it likes?? i think most chinese will think the same — ??? (kereta mayat). not even launch yet but already on the k.m, with a biggggg ??? ;))) It’s that indicate its poor feedback ;pppp
And i agree with you Tay. Proton, shame of you! To all the engineer inside there, Shame of you! Tay you’re wrong, Malaysia SUDAH TAK BOLEH LAH. Not me say that, your x PM said that.
Be careful when you drive that ins~~pira~~ at night, you may see something~~~
Paul, why can’t write chinese character??
good , should be english ONLY , universal language everybody can understand , dumb question
VW also copycat Suzuki..
and LG help proton design the car..
Haih, Proton design new car for small market, need 15 years to recoup cost, then people like you condemn. Now Proton take money saving action by rebadging non-core models to save money for development of core models, you still condemn. Paul already outlined in full detail why rebadging is not a step backwards.
READ THE BLOODY ARTICLE BEFORE COMMENTING LA! AT LEAST APPRECIATE PAUL’S EFFORT TO WRITE THAT ARTICLE!
ah beng.. whats a problem.. u want proton engine and own design??.. get a saga, exora, persona or upcoming model persona R or EMAS
daihatsu and subaru olso have own design and rebadge model.. do you think their engineers are lazy? only know to copy???
i think, proton, daihatsu, subaru engineers are superb… but u are lazy… lazy to read.. pls read more and get more info
prrrrrfhhhh
Laymen spotted! hahahaha
I’m disappointed with proton. After all these years, with government backed resources, they still rebadged another manufacturer’s model.
We used to be able to compare with Hyundai and Kia, now they are way ahead than us. If it wasn’t for our poor society that can only afford local made cars, proton would’ve wind down the curtain by now.
I like driving MANUAL. I like lancer a lot. I keep wondering, where got MANUAL transmission lancer?? owh, proton has it now..
Dissapointed.. 2.0GT in Langkawi is only about RM69K…. Price should be reduced a bit more since this is gonna be badged as a national car….
Then go to langkawi, but 2.0GT and stay there for 5 years then bring it back to the mainland. Yes, lame, I know.
I suspect the reason for it being expansive is because of Proton have to pay quite expansive for some car that is still in the production. This is just a speculation.
all other proton cars also cheaper in langkawi lor.. it’s more expensive here because of tax, and tax is not something to be decided by proton.
If Proton is a final year university student and preparing the thesis, just copy and paste and doing some modification of others thesis, Boleh Pass ke?
proton is a company.. useless comparison
Correct correct correct!!! In Boleh Land, all can one. Sure can pass when the lecturer also will use the final year student’s paper as his thesis later for PHD :)
hahaha.. all with the same resource.. satu otak 100 thesis(copy).. hhaha
Laymen spotted again!
The bad part if Proton copy and paste without any lesson learnt, but talking about bussiness strategic, u must understand that rebagde is normal, even Aston Martin rebadged their car.
yes if u do the same research y not n added extra step that previous research don do….but u must mention n credited the original owner n not take credit urself..i do it myself in my thesis
” smart guys get it ” ???!!!??? WTF IS THAT SHhhh , thats the dumbest catchphrase i’ve ever heard in my entire life , which inbred come out with this, probably the same moron that tought the facelifted waja’s tail lamp looks cool (the lalat’s eyes circle cheap looking tail lamp ),
1) The front looks very2 nice , i must say its actually nicer than a lancer’s , i dont see the point in changing it
2) Its good that proton realize bout their own capabilities and stick with mitsu’s powertrain
3) As usual , proton likes to ‘overdo’ the rim design , like previous gen.2 , satria neo ,the design is sporty, but ugly because its small, its not the design , its the size, a simple 5 spoke would look better when its small
4) How to book if you dunno what your getting!??!!? , It looks better than a forte (it is, you can’t deny this ) but, Forte seems to be the better buy cuz its packed with gizmos
5) If you look closely at the gap between the left end of the hood and the left front body panel, you could see that theres quite a gap there, and its uneven, i hope this is just a pre-production model ,
6) If i have a choice between Forte and INSPIRA (albeit both have the same equipments ,trim bla bla bla ) but the INSPIRA is a bit more expensive, I’d still go for the INSPIRA
cuz its a much much better looking car
and its easier and cheaper to get spare parts…
overall, a worthy car to consider when buying… and modifying it will depreciate it even further btw…
If you want to blame someone for the tagline, blame the guys at Leo Burnett, the advertising agency holding the Proton account. Think it’s easy coming out with taglines?
Im sure anything is better than the current one , its not easy for this particular car because its a rebadge model …
” Rev it to believe it ”
” Clear your mind and drive ”
” Reignite your senses ” (im sure this has been used before )
” Excitement is just the beginning ”
” Inspira , inspired by you know whut….”
” Inspira , if it ain’t broken , dont fix it ”
” Inspira , Inspiration revisited (Aha! get it? its a rebadge car , so the idea is REvisited ”
” Inspira , Rev it and Go! “
Truth be told, the taglines you proposed are in the same league as “Smart Guys Get It”.
Smart guys get it ????
Darn it … i can smell they are criticizing lancer owner are stupid =.=. ….
then u are the smart guy coz u get it right…
wa~ free 2 years services! The 2nd hand value sure will be remain really high for 2 years! hmm… I dun think people will actually sell this super nice driver car in 2 years driving. I cant imagine it.. Proton Inspira 2nd hand will be really expensive!
No shame eh? For a full fledged car manufacturer, ini half baked jurutera2 were either just plain LAZY or dunno how else to build it from scratch. What happened to that apanama rapid prototyping?? Lotus DNA injection ka, any aftermarket tuner worth its salt can do a better job. Itu local jurutera2 only know Botok injection nosejob and reinventing the wheels. Malu…huhu
Good job proton!
my issue with the name of the car “Inspira”, sounds like inspire or inspiration……but just doing rebadge, and you call that inspiration????? maybe after so many year, cant even figure out any new model…so the inspiration is to copy and rebadge….
They should really name it as Waja so that you could really establish the generation feel….
someone mentioned that this strategy of rebadging is to allow proton to focus on the core product as this is just a gap-filling product. I dont agree to it. If you aim to sell around 20k unit a year, which is close to 4-5% of the total annual car sales, this must surely be a core product….
that was small enough to justify it as non core..if it was 20-30% it can might be classified as core model…eg total sales 100 car modelA 5, modelB 30, modelC 20, modelD 45..for sure BCD is the core model
Waja +. Lancer = wancer. C ppronounced with a K
This is the best move Proton ever made. Hope that they can finally earn a decent amount of money from the sales and pump into their R&D line.
I just wondering, is that possible to drive this car into a Mitsu 3S centre for servicing? Proton Service Centre suckiness is way too terrible to describe and some more they are charging stellar high “workmanship” charges…
if u don know mostly service centre for mitsu is run by EON who r also service centre for proton..lol
Im sure Inspira’s aircond better than its ori Mitsu.
Well, on the bright side…we can start seeing more Jap looking cars on the road…
kereta RAKYAT are getting more expensive nowadays
Those who blindly bash here, knows nothing about car industry and definitely dumb about business strategy. They don’t even bother to read previous Paul posting about the rationale and history of of rebadging. Very selfish attitude
Proton is the one being selfish… why must we buy a Mit. Lancer at lower price only if it is rebadge as a proton… it is wrong at the first place.. if they wan to do rebadge strategy.. fine business strategy… but we as tax payer and car buyer should not be subsidizing Proton for it.. take all Proton protection away and and let the car price of all other makes to come down… then THAZ CALL NOT SELFISH!
Even if we don’t have Proton, Lancer, civic and Altis will cost you more then RM100k. Price just like our neighbor Thailand refer to my earlier post
YOU BASHER LOTS STILL CAN’T AFFORD IT! PERIOD!
I really think these people who bash a generally lazy people who drive around with their perodua thinking the are driving a Japanese car… thinking that a Civic or Altis will cost less then RM 60K (coz that is their income price bracket) if proton was not around.
Dream on, losers!
But why other carmakers such as P2, naza rebadge other Jap/korean model, p1 simply bash them and proudly present their maCAMPRO engine… P1 design sendiri la, etc etc????
You do not become an industry expert just by reading Paul’s posting. Of course it makes a lot of “business” sense to rebadge. The point is are we merely a local assembler of Mitsubishi then? If they are so good open the industry for cars to come in on an equal basis and footing. Are we the next Detroit of America?
Face the reality like the Koreans and move forward. Quite frankly people who belittle the Mitsubishi Lancer owners are just sore losers. I would at least say they get my respect as they could truly afford the real thing unlike some who gloat here that they could finally afford afford a look alike Mitsubishi.
there is no look alike things here
new lancer = old lancer + lotus rnh
2.0GT in Langkawi is only about RM69K
Who say what u pay, what you get! Langkawi pay 69K for original Lancer, with better quality, better performance. Now SMART guy have to pay extra nearly extra 20K to get a NATIONAL CAR lower quality, lower performance. Now We all pay High pertrol, higer premium for National. This is very good profit car. It good selling, can bring a good annual report for the next finance year. Are You SMART??
some of people prefer outlook that inner, so may go inspira. Coz cheap. as far as can make girl up on their car. haha… But for serious buyer, outlook and inner also come important. againt Are you SMART enough?
if u SMART enough y don buy at langkawi…even so called cheap thai the GT cost u RM107k
Yup, u r right!
If the so called SMART guy’s car being sold in Langkawi, it definately will cost higher than the CBU Mitsu Lancer GT, coz Potong’s manufacturing is so inefficient, thus their manufacturing cost oso become higher! Then they expect the RAKYAT jelata to bear the cost for their inefficiency!!!
Over there is a fair market, duty free, so do you think buying the imitation that cost more is Smart enough??? Potong is even worst than the pirates DVD maker!
so who is the SMART guy now????
how much will inspira sold in langkawi exactly?
since u guys seem know so much bout the pricing thing…
Lancr Gt RM 69 K ( is it ??)
Inspira RM ?
Even if we don’t have Proton, Lancer, civic and Altis will cost you more then RM100k. Price just like our neighbor Thailand refer to my earlier post
YOU BASHER LOTS STILL CAN’T AFFORD IT! PERIOD!
I really think these ‘people’ who bash a generally lazy people who drive around with their perodua thinking the are driving a Japanese car… thinking that a Civic or Altis will cost less then RM 60K (coz that is their income price bracket) if proton was not around.
Dream on, losers!
Who say what u pay, what you get! Langkawi pay 69K for original Lancer, with better quality, better performance. Now SMART guy have to pay extra nearly extra 20K to get a NATIONAL CAR lower quality, lower performance. Now We all pay High pertrol, higer premium for National. This is very good profit car. It good selling, can bring a good annual report for the next finance year. Are You SMART??
some of people prefer outlook that inner, so may go inspira. Coz cheap. as far as can make girl up on their car. haha… But for serious buyer, outlook and inner also come important. againt Are you SMART enough?
YES i am.do you?
lower performance… did u test drive it?
do u own a mistubishi lancer?
master, u sudah try ka ini inspira? mana u tau ini kereta low quality, low performance?FYI, first 300 unit inspira is CBU unit. Lu x pecaya, tanya DSZ sindri..
it’s not lower quality.. meanwhile.. it’s more performance wise.
hello bro dont forget inspira at langkawi much2 more cheaper than his brother lancer
so go langkawi and buy your mitsu and stay there for years boy.
Woh…Inspira was my entry for Exora naming competition. I wonder if proton use my idea to name this 2nd waja. Proud oooo…
nolah…i think it’s their own inspirasi
Sorry to say…Proton InsPiRATE Lancer…backward strategy..
it seems to be proton architect are copy cat… no innovative idea…so call malaysia boleh
this is what we call strategic plan which can give benefit to each others…yup malaysia boleh…so what u can do?
tell that to Mini cooper, citroen, mazda, ford, toyota, perodua, Dodge, volvo, etc etc
Garang oh! Can’t wait to see it at nearest Proton Dealer..!
Proton, pls plough whatever profit you gain here into products you can sell globally. You really need to quell all this noise abt you being the protected one.
smart move by P1. i think they’re just tired of Naza being a national car maker by simply slapping their badge over Kias, and now trying to reclaim the throne to become #1 again in Malaysia, overtaking P2 very soon likely.
but again, P1 was the culprit under the NAP scheme. ah, another chicken and egg argument. humm..
politics aside, i have to agree that Inspira is a good buy. just make sure you avoid the early batches, and stay away from CVTs. perhaps wait even further until SE arrives.
Plagiarism ftw! More apt to rename this as Insipid -ar.
this can not be consider plagiarism….it mean do other people work without acknowledge the person who make the work and claim its their work
true LV v.s AAA LV ………u choose which one?
Gee.. now 20+% localized sell at 80k, if the local content increase to 60% are we seeing the car price drop to 60k?
Buy now… get Japan quality for 80k.. buy later get the local cheap quality car for 60k? Or buy later proton still maintain the price at 80k althou with cheap local quality parts? Hm.. there is a lot of question here for Proton to Answer..
But… to be frank.. don’t care about Proton much.. can the government pls remove those stupid protection for Proton and let the price of Altis/Civic be at 80k????????????? anyday anytime anyplace… will take a Toyota/Honda over a Proton/Mits..
Mind ya all… the governmnet is not only protecting Proton via taxes.. hence even when u compare the Langkawi price… it doesn’t tell the whole story.. the government should standardize the “REBET!!!” given to proton like the R&D grand (what an inspira) and the IAF and blablabla..
I would say Proton Juara and Proton Savvy looks better than this stupid Ispira.!
God damn! This Duplication of Lancer simply not my cup of tea cause it’s so ugly.!
Basically, it’s not a new model anyway. Nothing new! We are bored seeing Mitsu Lancer on the road. There is nothing new here!
are you a desperate car dealer?
With all this Proton bashing going on…at the end of the day people will still buy Inspira, personally I’m looking forward to getting one because in reality it gives me more bang for buck for the same price of the Vios and City. Both are good cars but for the price I’m paying I’ve made up my mind to trade in my 10 year old toyota for an Inspira. True proton has not been as succesful as we hoped for and that it is a re-badge, the reality is that we are living in Malaysia which protects Proton with its high taxes. So at the end of the day people like me who due to the high taxes cannot afford a civic or altis will buy an Ispira. Hey…it keeps the local economy going ma… remember its all about dollars and sense…
The issue is not the RE-BADGING. The issue is the QUALITY !
Not to mention the wastage of FUNDS and ADVANTAGE given to Poton all these years ! Come on man, WTF Proton ?!
The Proton plan was good enough coz the quantity – margin = enough profit for persona R&D. Starting Price RM79k think was reasonable already if you see back the upgrading package we get compare than Lancer EX selling here. We get variant 1.8 to 2.0. The price actually cheap already. The problem is Malaysian will surely change the badge & go to “kedai Ahbeng” to install sport package (wanebe) & re-tune ECU. When the car caught problem they will backfire proton said the car not good, lack quality built & etc…. So in this situation who can we call stupid enough…. Re-badge was good for proton for this replacement Waja Inspira adding lotus tuning & others… Not like other’s Malaysia car assembler that do 75% rebadge 1% face makeup & 24% downgrade…. how easy Malaysian been cheated…. Even Bank also do double standard with doing high interest for local but lower for imported…. Hmmmm…..
people go to install sports package & retune because what was given earlier as stock was not the best options!
For the 95K model, the price is not that far from Honda civic , original Lancer or Altis. Plus you have a better after sales service. Proton so called 2 years free servicing is kinda useless. Since it is free service,the Proton staff will do their job slowy. I thought the price would be from 70 to 85top but not. The paint and body work of this Inspira looks kinda cheap and plastic. After 25years,hope their car got quaility.
R u a current lancer owner…seems like 1 2 me
body look like plastic? u can say that just by looking.
but i can give comment just by looking too. compare white saga/ persona to a white viva/ kancil/ Myvi… after 3-5 years, perodua cars turn yellowish white while proton cars remain white :)
well said….the free service is useless…got free service from triton for three years and whenever i bring the car for free service in EON they sometimes hesitate to service my car and say bad things about mitsubishi this and mitsu that. i cant even get the copy of the service receipt for documentation purposes. im not sure what they did with the car. this is the last mitsubishi for me and never for proton.
Let’s put the original and clone ones side by side.. I like to see the clone ones get pimped. Anyway, I no longer envy with my boss’ lancer. He will see my Inspira parked next to his.
The issue is not rebadging, how come this car cost less overseas and comes with 6 airbags and stability control? Maybe life is cheap in malaysia or our government doesn’t have respect for people’s lives. Stability control is mandatory in all new cars sold in the EU, Australia, US in the next few years.
Maybe, rambutan is better than an apple. But you cannot be selling rambutan at inflated price and at the same time increasing apples. That’s what’s Proton is doing.
Not cheap lah. Not good to Rakyat. But Good to Proton only. Proton think rakyat are the Mit car fans, sure will buy this. Sorry lah, To me, i rather buy new model H.Civic (2nd hand). lol.
you go buy 2nd hand H.civic lar. why bother to come here. write comment some more.
good luck bro…with ur 2nd hand Civic.
oh yeah and get ready to get smoked by inspira,
oh and by persona too. lol
What happen to remain competitive. I bet this price is just to test the response.
If poor then the will drop. Proton, please don’t play game price with us.
Ya man…. ur damm right…..
smart guys get it with stretching 9 years loan & KLCC alike interest…if they can grab 100% loan is a must…then no saving in 9 years coz almost half of salary goes to the car
i think lots of 2k earner eager to get this car though in reality they are truly can’t afford it
PROTON…xleh bagi la harga murah sket ke? xkan nak naik kancil smpi tua…
Tunggulah Proton kasi diskaun bila hype pasal this car is over and many more people sedar harganya tinggi dari yg sepatutnya. By that time u boleh beli siap 0 downpayment lagik. Harap2 org yg mampu pegi la beli keta lain, T ke, H ke, Mitsu ori ke so demand utk keta ni jatuh ke tahap yg sepatutnya. Masa tulah dpt harga berpatutan kan? My advice tunggu 18 bulan dari sekarang, agak2 bulan Mac 2012.
i can see, many DESPERATE salesperson try to influence people not to buy IN5P1RA…
poor them..
This model still can create a boom… no need to worry.. in RMK10, all project car/sedan will use this INSPIRA..
Just want to know..
1. how about INSPIRA top speed after Tuned by LOTUS.. Anyone??
2. can we drive 120kmh at the corner like Persona? heheh…
3. Boot Space bigger or not? compare to Persona?
1. Lotus didn’t tune the engine. Mitsu didn’t allow Proton to touch the engine and ECU. but they did change/ re-tune the suspension.
2. With Lotus DNA, yes..
3. probably bigger.
What a RIPOFF!!! “Smart people gets this” <—WTF
korang igt tak sebelum ni masa New Saga nak kluar, p1 war2kan mcm vios la… campur cty skit… skang ni inspira nak mcm lancer plak… gempak sja lebey !!! lepas ni nak tiru apa pulak????
My dad used to send me to secondary school using Proton Knight, then it was Saga.. then Wira.. and myself is using Wira now.. but with this.. the legacy continues.. Proton has been around with us and it will always be.. probably this is the best collaboration model.. and its worth every penny..
If lack names, can use audi conventions. Like P1, P2, P3, and list goes on :P
a car for poor people who still want to look wealth…. pity malaysian…
Firstly, Dont get mad @ me…. Can u guys share with me advantage & disadvantage between the new 7 speed altis & inspira?…
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For Lancer rebadge model for nearly 80K is not consider affordable for the rakyat!!
We need something like Myvi price.
If Proton’s can lower down price definitely gonna be a bit among M’sian buyer.
maybe you should get a myvi lah
Proton Saga and Persona already serve the price range (Myvi) .
Lancer and Myvi same category ar?
Some people want Honda Civic/Altis category but only willing to pay Myvi price.
Actually they have a choice, Waja CPS, It will be as powerful as Altis 1.6 and more fun to drive, better handling than Altis (Multi Link vs Torsion Beam) and the price is only RM 60k, which is nearly 50k cheaper than Altis 1.6, and the engine (CPS) is newer than Altis 1.6, which is 10years old engine (If not mistaken, the 1.6 Altis using the same engine with previous model which launched in year 2000?) WAJA CPS have HID light and Altis do not have.
Tagline “smart guys get it”…
wow…a tagline thats insulting mitsu lancer buyer…
80k?? that’s creeping into non-national car level…wow…if perdana replacement model comes out…price at?? RM140k??
Maybe
But i think more towards to Vios and City owner
did anyone realise there were many many2 silent supporters of this proton..just look at the thumb up/down on each comment… i think it’s a good product
First of all i tink is way to expensive, come on is a local car.I tink we kena POTONG kow kow.60-70k will be ideal.No way im going to pay 80-95k for a PROTON.Our local car interest will be higher compare to others then i rather buy MAZDA3 sports end up i juz pay abit more.But of coz im gettting a 1.6 compared a 1.8.It depends on how u guys look at it, for me is becoz is proton so is not worth paying tht much coz i really feel like i kena POTONG fr PROTON.Im not saying the car is no good is juz becoz is our local car they should sell cheaper to us….So is up to u guys to tink and do ur calculation.
like u said earlier…..” its depends on how u guys look at it” :)
Syed Zainal said that while the Inspira was being offered in place of the discontinued Proton Waja, he clarified that the Inspira was not a direct replacement of the Waja.
“This is not a Waja replacement. The Waja has been discontinued. If you look at the overall customer retention of any automotive company, when a car is discontinued, a vehicle that takes its place has to have a much better packaging.
of cos not waja replacement, if they said is waja replacement they need to sell it at 60k.
still got saga= 30-40
they kill wira= 40k
they kill waja = 60k
they have saga blm= 30-40k
persona= 40-60k
no place for waja, so inspira= 70-90k.
no place for perdana.
look at this. the car actually become expensive. rm30k-60k we used to have 3 diff car model. now left 2.
where neo? gen2 .. i think after this proton will add proton emas and persona – R at their line up.. and 2.4 liter perdana replacement.. cheers
At last! Somebody really listening about Inspira is NOT a replacement for Waja.
A lot of comments above all have been asking the need of new name and why not continue using waja name.
To those who just dissing proton….I am a Proton User….I Bought Tha Waja Running on 4G18 Untill now that car its still on a roll and it is ten years old…..Yes its had its power window problem….now they came out with metal changed it…Problem solved…Door Handle Problem You Open Too hard also of course plastic can give away if you let your car experience on malaysian weather….thats why the other brands change it to the different type handle…I have been using a waja for 10 years the only problem i encounter was my power window and door handle. Nothing more nothing less…So 10 years later i placed a booking fee on the brand New INSPIRA, running on the 2.0CVT.
Speaking of quality At the same time i bought the waja i also bought a volvo but earlier month. Same year different month…. The volvo started to give so much problem from the day i buy but warranty handled it …I spend almost 40-60K anually…untill recently the radiator water casing broke and causing the overhead gasket to melt….the cost was too unbearable so i went and check out the new volvo ah lets give it another chance….o btw the olden days federal auto service is like shit and their centre is shit….Now i am so impressed with volvo’s quality and service… Now even recently the call back for upgrade for the undercasing for engine because the new batch of volvo’s had it…And i bought my volvo when it was rated safest car…guess what externally yes….When you start the car you need warm up 5 minutes…well warm up 5 minutes drive back from damansara….enter brake fail…but nonetheless past is past…not every single car is perfect but they are trying….like now after my annuall cost of 40-60k i would buy a volvo you would go bmw, mercedes or audi….but i tried one more time and found a huge difference.
So if volvo changed the way they looked in 10 years …..we have seen 3 leaders in 10 years…what about proton…If you do not support your own national car than whats more being proud of being a malaysian….Not many countries have their own national car and we have 2 that is famous…..and finally thank you Mr PAULTAN FOR THIS FANTASTIC REVIEW
dear all,
all of us have different opinion abt this coming new model, Inspira…some comment on rebadging (but they have tune the RNH, and to replace a poor RNH of the lancer)…and i heard through oout the production,their RND department will make some improvement on the NVH…i am still remember they still do the RND for Exora after 6 months it was launched.
many of us…so like the design of lancer…but considering the income of malaysian..many cant afford! the price of the 2.0 inspira for me is quite high..but u still have options to buy 1.8 manual /cvt which is at lesser price. i would buy this car rather than 1.5 dugong and city….and my experienced with jap cars…they are also cutting cost…and the car they produce is not that great.
to ANJEZ…i think your financial is strong…so do i…but majority of malaysian cant afford to buy lancer…and for me with the cheap plastic of the interior which is so obvious from the Instrument panel…NHV and RNH just like vios or swift (lesser rm50k)…to get the inspira and to save almost rm 25k…(for 2.0 model)…is worth buying…how many ppl is really a car hardcore..i think just 10 percent..others? a car is to drive from a to z..
so, for ppl who needs a a spacious car, with a very limited budget…this is a good option…
i like naza forte design…but driving pleasure wise is BIASA…but the features and the price is good!
hoping for PERSONA R to be launced maybe 2012 and EMAS too.
New name again…sigh
OCD = Ultimate Car Detailer? it should be UCD or Oltimate Car Detailer.
OCD?….UCD?… Old Car Detailer? :)
Then buy the Lancer if <95K is expensive to you. We all live in 2010. All things have inflation. And expecting the price will soring up in times to come. Although the Tax percentage is the same, the inflation of price makes it cost more.
Alex Tye Ngee YangOct 14
I hope Proton 1 day can steal bmw,benz,ferrari creation and change the name like proton AMW,PROTON BENZ,PROTO LALARI !!should be great !!
Wow bro, what you’ve been smoking? Or have been living in a cave? Whichever, something must be damn wrong in your head lah.
I’m not a Proton fan (but neither I’m a basher), but STEAL?! Dude, seriously. Go get some education.
Proton rebadge = backward, plagiat, copy cat, etc…
VW, Peugeot , Aston Martin, Honda, Ford rebadge = Transfer of Technology, profit sharing, smart business strategy, etc…
double standard colonized western worshiper …
Proton proudly says that LOTUS is under proton. So why not rebadge LOTUS. Only Mitsubishi willing to do so. Before this i plan to buy Grandis, but now sorry bye bye Mitsu. Spoil image of Mitsu owner who invest heavily for gov tax.
good point..agree with u..no point having LOTUS but can utilized them only in handling only.
forget grandis buy avanza instead..
Wakakakaka – habih la pembeli kereta lancer… hancus.. tepuk kepala.. kesian pun ada, mana tak.. keluar sebijik sebijik lancer.
di khabarkan bahawa, HANYA 200 Unit pertama yang pure mitsubishi parts inside.
so pada yang booking awal.. memang bertuah badan.. dapat harga murah.. pastu original parts of mitsubishi.. hehe..
adios.. jom ramai-ramai booking.~
wait till R3 version out!!
wachha!!!
expensive?…i think the price is OK…tho its riding on protons name…but it actually mitsu (yae u may say mitsu overseas is cheaper)…waja is 10 yrs ago..and priced at 60K so dont u thing after 10yrs..due to inflation and evrything they not going to revise the price? i remember my father bought CIVIC SH4 back in 91 cost around 55k…and after 16 yrs..i bought the FD2 for 130k isn’t that like 2.5 times ?….
people are earning alot now…even boys….so 800 per month shud be on their budget….
and for those who hav intention or been dream to get this car…go for it man..ill support u…may EVO 10 flooded on our land……
rm95k for proton inspira?
i better top up another 20k for the REAL THING!
come on,wake up malaysians…!
i want real enjoyable driving,
that won’t come with real lancer
so i choose INSPIRA!
you sleeping or what……….we all kena rape from proton. Its Mit R&D and hard work and Inspira (Inpar**a) get the name…..
it is that you that is sleeping
you think rebadging lancer is like duplicating cd?
no testing and hard works involved?
it handles much bettre than old lancer
If u buy the mitsu..then it will be left original, if u buy inspira u will spend many thousand ringgit for modding and beautification. Malaysian have natural talent in modding, so better buy inspira cos the value is lower plus u do not sayang local kereta like u sayang foreign ones.
thumb up for Proton. At least this company know rakyat dilemma about expensive car in malaysia
Wow…what a easy job for Proton. Take Mitsu Lancer model and everything and change the badge like what NAZA did with KIA? And tell you only smart guys get it? Fuyoh. So those not get it is stupid la. Hahaha…and Malaysians are stupid people one ma…change badge they will sure buy one because it is cheaper but not cheap enough. Go overseas and check the Proton cars. Selling far cheaper. Proton is ripping off local Malaysians and we still buy. Proton still ripping off those unsuspecting fools big time. Nothing to complain. If you are smart, you will do the opposite. Only smart guy don’t buy Proton unless you have no dough. But then, there is Perodua under Toyota control. Still ok. But Proton wants to eat Perodua also because Perodua is making money (because it is not Proton who owns it). But if goes under Proton mgmt, let’s see if Perodua still make money or not. Hahaha…
;-) Proton current line up mgmt.. mostly are ex Perodua mgmt
Proton & Perodua should married
PROTdua
1+1 not = 2 but more then 2
Front MyVi, real Gen2
Front Viva Real Perdana
Front Savy real Alza
after that we export to Siam, Pataya, Phuket, Batambang, Sulawesi, Baghdad
I also dunno why you guys can support Proton. After 25 years, instead of coming out with new design and technology, now go back to re-badge Mitsu…
All the billions of ringgits poured into Proton all these years… all the taxes from you and I are to support this company.
You ask yourself how many Proton cars are exported overseas? And if exported, the price is lower than Malaysia. That means Malaysian subsidize for overseas.
Malaysians suffer high prices and tax because the government just want to support this company that will never make it in the real world.
lucky that didnt get mitsu lancer, else is suck now….
kedai abang paling happy sekarang ni ..woho
izwan.. alot of supporter for proton here?? Yes. They are the proud owner of proton who dont realise that Proton SAGA, Iswara, Wira, Satria, Perdana, Waja are all from Mitsubishi platform.Finally after 15 years Proton design CAMpro engine with very tak pro cam management which consume a lot of petrol and even now still don’t have own gearbox…. After 25 years.
Is it to be proud off? For me No. Unless you are totally blind of technical who learn sastera stream last time.
“Smart guys get it” …poor slogan. It meant smart lady cannot get it. Shit.
After get it, smart guys will become poor guys….lol
Rendering done by Theo somehow looks better than what P1 did..
—> http://paultan.org/2010/08/02/rendering-lancer-based-proton-waja-replacement-model/
It’s become hottest topic again as usual. Anyway guys…see your wallet first. Below rm100K is still cheap for deep pocket but damn crazy price for incomer rm2000 or below like me alsolah..So if cannot afford to buy just keep silent, drive your current cars (kancil, saga, iswara or wira). The price is still reasonable. How long you can bising-bising?? they (proton) will not decrease as you keep mumbling about karipap 2 biji seringgit.Do you think you doing like that makcik jual karipap will sell you 3pcs seringgit or she will become bankrupt if you boycott her? No right???Anyway how many people in Malaysia really hardcore about car? Especially women. Many of us just want go from A to Z with comfortable and safe..that’s it!!!
wah so many woo ha… its a good new indeed.. after all it just a re-badged mitsubishi lancer.. why it so desperate for all Malaysian car lover.. particularly culture of automobile at Malaysia…
very simple here….if u like…u can buy it..if u hate it,,just move ur ass and get Mitsu Lancer…
dont comment and talk to much….u have money go n get mitsu lancer or Evo 10…
This car is not in the showroom yet..maybe not in production yet but already allowed for booking. Seem that Proton desperate to get market sharing and afraid of KIA forte, new altis , Avante. Be gentleman la proton. Other company even not in showroom yet but already used in other country, that one i can accept.
for those who keep on saying proton is valued for money. personally i think it’s a load of crap. for the same proton car, u can easily get it in about half a price (mb exaggerate a bit) in australia than u would get it in malaysia. this is weird in a sense that with all the shipping, taxes and custom fees, u still get it cheaper.
in product point of view, we can’t simply buy and support proton simply because it’s a national car. it’s a business. it must be competitive. proton started about 20-30 years ago and still haven’t make its name in global stage, not even in regional stage. take a look at hyundai. its started about 10 years ago (mb?) and see how they go. we can’t babysit proton forever. they have to learn how to make quality and low cost car. toyota and hyundai have proven asia cars can complete with the western. i’m sure proton can do the same but it must learn not to copy but be original. be innovative
Hyundai started 10 years ago?! 10 years ago?! 10 years ago?!
noob u hyundai 10years.. see this.. http://www.thehyway.com/Hyundai_History.htm
from 1947.. dam so old d..more than 60years already la.. proton??still young in 25..
Get your fact right before shout… That make you look stupid….
Hyundai started 10 years ago?! 10 years ago?! 10 years ago?! (Pun intended for people with no history knowledge)
Better looks than the ori Lancer GT. Was told handling and suspension is also much2 better. To all bashers why not u people pack up ur bags & moved to Japan or elsewhere U all are a liability to the country not needed here shhhuuhhhhhh. Salute the Korean’s for bering very loyal and patriotic to their country. No matter how bad their products is they will still support & defend their products
hello,their management also used Korea brand car..don’t talk loyal if only rakyat pushed to buy ploton and them used conti car..understand!!!!!!!!!!!!
hi, as far as i know, MD of proton drive wira aeroback go to work and his daughter which is still study use iswara. i don’t know how many cars he got, but he drive local car also la bonceng..understand? confirm as my friend told me..he always go proton bcoz the company where he work one of proton vendors since decades ago. and under this new top new management team, proton change a lot already..they are trying la. wait persona R, someone said design cun.
mmmmm….”confirm as my friend told me..” my friend also told me but opposite..
Big LOL at the RIMs… The small stripes make it look ugly..
Hahahahaha………
well done Proton for another rebadge work.
front looks better than lancer
CVT…..what a lame move by proton.FYI CVT gearbox has a lot of problem even in this hand of expert car maker like honda,now in proton?Honda has replace CVT in city with i-SHIFT, toyota put CVT-i in new corolla.CVT+proton=disaster wait to happen.
The engine and gear box package come from Mitsubishi. Then, when it use in Proton Inspira, you say disaster happens? Remember, even the chasis and body also based on Mitsubishi Lancer.
Well, I think you are the disaster just to spoil the name of Proton.
Huh… Qualified engineer ?.. if not keep quite…
Do you think proton can repair or diagnose CVT gear box??? I had problem with my wira many years ago and all kind of repair, diagnose etc was done and at the end of the day, they advise me to change the gear box. Its going to be the same problem when thsi happen…….
Let close all Mechanical School, Automobile related school at University, college. No point to do so if after 25years, what we get is rebadge car or cam tak pro car then called Nasional car. Start study how to rebadge, repirated, remodell things at university.
Syed Azlan said it normal for auto company to rebadge non core model to save cost. At least that company have their own product which sell worldwide. Now Syed Azlan can start think of rebadge other non core model like Proton Evo, Proton Caldina or Proton Alpharde. Surely get a lot of supporter like in this forum.
Syed Azlan..For me if Proton cannot compete after 25 years then you cannot compete forever. Enough is enough. How long should we pay tax for the sake to save of proton?
who the hell is Syed Azlan???? Are you blind or what a lot other car manufacturer rebadged othe manufacturer model as their non-core model to save cost…. this could be a very good starting point for platform sharing between these manufacturer… So if based on ur opinion…. the country where these manufacturer comes from should also cloes their Mechanical School???? Next time stop talking from your behind and use ur actual head to think…. not the one between ur legs…
Hehe… Think he used the one that between his leg but used his ball coz the head always put in the hole, that why can’t think batter than this… hehehe
Mr P.Eng, Can you name a car company that is able to compete within 25 years and sold their product worldwide? Else revoke your P.Eng (If you have one) since you will be a disgrace to the BEM and IEM community.
Look out for BYD or Geely. They’re barely 10 years old in car making and is getting some global attention.
who syed azlan? anyone can enlighted me please?
noob haish.. dnt u know tht proton n mitsu have mou about rebadge each other?? lOl
Ir Eng..
u may have passed the P Eng exam.
but do u really know how business is going nowaday?
FYI nowadays engineers also learn economics.
SMART GUYS GET IT, STUPID GUYS GET LANCER…
SMART GUYS GET IT, STUPID GUYS GET LANCER?.
Proton should renamed it as Imira instead of Inspira, Imira = Imitation.
Copying is not innovative, copying without any changes is pure stupidity.
So i guess proton is the 1st not the latter.
Lotus DNA is not original Proton’s R&D, and if Mitsu’s handling is not that good as commended by some, then why Proton use their chasis at 1st place instead of creating one.
25 years is a long duration, just look at how korean carmakers stands in the market now.
They in the market for 25 years too.
Just like the slogan, smart guys get it, dumb guys buy it, which is quite true. Thank you for the honesty Proton, for warning us!
Better update your knowledge,Hyundai first make cars in the 60’s not in the 80’s.
If you wanna bash Proton please use facts not craps!
dont you think rebadge without change the skin quiet weird..huhu.
but its collaboration with mitsu, mayb mitsu dont want proton to change the look.
even waja 10years? ago also change the skin what…why u think proton eng stupid enough not to change? its kerjasama proton n mitsu la. both side must agreed first. then proceed.
i dont know. mayb u know why. lancer look,more fanzz..haha.
unknown: here most talk crap laa…haha
Imira actually have used already by Malaysian that used for they Kelisa but they throw out the capital I at front became mira…
Lotus DNA now owned by parent Proton so they have right do used it. Mitsu’s handling maybe not that good as commended by some but proton improve it by Lotus tuning.
Korean car marker history backdated in 60’s but just enter world market around 20 years, Proton backdated 25years & have enter the Asian market already 18 years & Europe market for 15++ years already. Now on the way to more global…
Smart guys get it coz built in Malaysia with almost complete imported part but pay less. For dumd guy they buy it if they want to cheat they self that buy proton & change Mitshu part that cost you more than 25++k but at the end when having problem will backfire Proton said the car not good (exp : SYOH)…. :)
my god..did u guy not read the article. typical 3rdworld mentality, read the title, 2 rows up and 2 rows down..and walla here’s my thought!!!
the name..inspira, whatever the heck it mean to Proton it doesnt matter coz 5 to 10 years from now people wont even speak Inspira and Waja in the same sentence..waja is a gud car, yet few defects and stupid bashin kinda make it taboo to be speak of..so perhaps this new Proton administration really wanna get rid of bad dream behind and start a new chapter..the same story goes with wira and persona..satria still retain the name coz those who drive both previous and present model knew the Why..may not be the greatest quality but surely worth the buy..
again shallow minded complain bout re-badge…Inspira is not Proton’s core product…it is just a marketing strategy to recoup and profited enough money for their core product R&D..beside it’ll be a stupid move by Proton if they dont take this opportunity to rebadge lancer..whatever u may said, 1 year from now u’ll be surprise to see how many of this Inspira on the road…
regard to the price…of coz those who cant afford it would think it is expensive..tax make it expensive but without tax how the hell gov gonna generate the country…so wut do u expect..sell 2.0 @ RM80,000 almost on par with 1.6 Exora and 1.6 Persona..does anyone know old saying “alah membeli menang memakai”..do u really though in a wake of recent downfall of MMC they still allow Proton to do cincai work on their product and tainted both their name..camon…still speaking of “window problem”…outdated la..go ask gen2, persona, satria neo, new saga and exora owners if they had that much issues with Proton’s quality…beside people always relate the price and the quality they offer..
lazy rebagde..well well i dont know how they make it in india or china..but here in malaysia whatever u do to the parent car..the rebadge still going to be re-rebadge back to its hmmm not original model but the strongest model..look on the bright side..it’ll make us Malaysian more creative, inspira’s owner happy and the accessories shop had their profit..
wassalam
For those who are interested in this car….don’t worried….they will reduce the price later.
Everytime when the toll price is going to increase, they will announce a higher price. 1 week before the increment, they will say …..oh considering the response of the public we will only increase the toll price for ONLY 50 cent but not RM 1.2.
This is how they make you happy !
are you sure? look at saga, it is a demand car, proton put this, put that (immo etc).
and the price now is up to close rm 3000 rather than 2008 manufactured saga.
oh no !!!!……i’ve to park my Lancer away from these Inspira owner……my spoiler, bodylit, rims and mitsu badge might get stolen…..plezzzzzz….
u need to buy one 1st!
then u can convert to inspira lol
good idea….i might consider that…..after all, it just the same nut and bolts..
Do u guys think it will alot of privates lancer or evo x hits the road after inspira coming out? alot ah beng change logo and modified to evo x?? no..i dun think so.. if u really wants to do it,do u know how much u have to spend? front & rear bumber,side skirt,front hood,spoiler,18” sport rim,exaust(if u change to evo x rear bumber u must change the exaust system) + others accesories. . u have to spend a minimum of 20K(including of downpayment of the car). Some more if u change the sport rim will void the warranty.. and front bumber if u change,as Paul saids”The air guides in Proton’s own front end design provides better airflow for the transmission cooler.” if u change the front bumber,will void the warranty also. 1 more thing,no matter how u change the logo..or bumber to mitsu.. u still can’t change ur steering wheel logo and all ur windows can see from outside have a chop of PROTON logo! u r only making people laught at u if u change to mitsu logo..if u cant afford a real mitsu then just leave the Proton logo there! Simple,if u support Proton then why thinking to change to mitsu logo… Btw,i dun think alot of guys have 20k to spend in their car. Maybe have,but i think is 2-3 years later. Let’s think,if u guys have 20K now i dun think u will still buy a Proton! So,on the road still got alot of differents of lancer gt between proton inspira.
malaysia boleh!!..if u longer enough in motorsport industry than u know…all can change 100% only main chassis cant change….did u saw perodua passo, perodua gino etc?…i already seen someone change it 100%… nowdays u can get same quality evo10, or lancer GT bodykit from taiwan…,logo in bodykit, stereng, window all small matters only…difficult part to mod to EVO10 is body part at the back…coz there a bit wider compare to lancer gt….others sap sap sui…..
Does anyone know how much would be the interest rate for hire purchase? Am really tempted with this.
will i get back the RM1k deposit if i didn’t like the car after the launch? can any Proton guys here answer me.. please?
also thought abt that…try calling Proton i-care hotline: 1-300-880-888
all those saying proton copycat,
do you know that proton and mitsu got moa to swap cars?
mitsu gona rebadge proton car too lah,
they ignorant person bro.. even bro paultan write up they dont see it.. later if mitsubishi produce persona and exora mesti they tell proton copy persona at early stage..
i don’t own any of Proton’s cars but certainly I respect and salute to Proton’s achievement.
who else gonna support our own national car company if we didn’t.
Inspira is a good move for Proton.
good job!
yang aku pelik, ramai rakyat malaysia beli honda city, vios, made in thailand, xda plak complain harga mahal walupun mencecah 88k rega. segmen b, enjin 1.5 jer. xsilap aku jualan honda city and vios dalm 4k unit sebulan. mampu pulak beli. inspira pulak rega 85k cvt(estimation), segmen c, enjin 1.8, tetiba cakap mahal, rakyat malaysia xmampu nak beli. 70% komponen dari jepun. dah tu kalu mampu angkat vios dan honda city, xkan xmampu nak beli inspira.
asyik tanya power window ajer, dah tu exora ada prolem power window ker???itula yang latest proton kuar. kalupun pakai local komponen, kalu pakai yang sama ngan exora, xkan nak samakan power window wira.
aku mungkin yg sentiasa nasib baik, waja campro aku, xrosak pun power window, beli awal 2007, savvy aku beli tahun 2005, first badge, xrosak pun, bapak aku pkai blm 2008, xrosak pun, akak aku pkai vios 2006 pun xrosak jugak, jadi samer jer. cume aku memang maintain kete baik2. member aku pun ada waja campro gak, tapi bile naik kete aku, tanya apsal kete aku xda gegar2,bunyi enjin senyap n smooth jer,memang lain dari waja dia. aku tanya servis mana, mcm biasa bwh pokokla. aku maintain ngan protonbranch sc(bukan dealer, aku xpercaya dealer punya servis coz dah penah kena masa servis kete iswara ayah aku dulu. by the way, iswara ayah aku 1998, xda masalah power window sehingga jual 2008.
mgkin kami punya keluarga nasib baik,tapi bab jaga kete,memang anto proton branch sc, kete toyota akak aku pun anto toyota branch sc.
kete ni macam orang jugak, ka;u pandai jaga badan, umur 50 pun nampak 40, tapi kalu xpandai,umur 30 pun nampak 50.
yup.. umur mahathir dah nak dekat 80, tapi nampak mcm 50 je. hehe
Good job PROTON on the fact that you are using Mitsu engine and not the maCAMPRO enjin..
Many potential buyers reluctant to buy PROTON cars because of that..otherwise..
With the MITSU enjin, I believe INSPIRA will be selling like Goreng Pisang Panas during rainy season..
with only 20 percent local contents, it is like we are buying MITSU but with the price of PROTON..
Good Job..really..good job!
I wish u guys the best!
Err… it’s pisang goreng panas… coz goreng pisang panas is “frying hot bananas”
I don’t want the Inspira, I want a Prius, because it’s a hybrid
It should be called WACER (WAJA + LANCER) Good move proton, at least it looks good and drive better. Hopefully the price will drop further with different spec, if possible a 1.5 like japan low spec model will be good here. I will visit the showroom and see the actual car myself.
May i suggest the new tagline:
WACER – “WAt’s up!? Cancel that previous ordER!” (a closely related car?)
Current Mitsu Lancer owner must be regret alooottttt…. ekekekeke… damn…
Ya,abit.. but if now im still not buy my lancer yet.. but still i will buy.. coz the real lancer and inspira are only different 29k. at least mine 1 got a better looking and 18” rim,nappa leather seats. Inspira dun have!!
the most important thing is … mine is 100% mitsubishi parts and CBU. 29k is really worth it! No matter how,inspira is a PROTON! Got a proton logo in the steering wheel… Example,if you buy an inspira and your friends ask u..what car is this..what u say?? Do u say ” it is a MITSUBISHI LANCER??” u can only say ”it is a PROTON INSPIRA” do u get what i mean?
real lancer dun have lotus dna, that sucks
bro inspira has nappa leather seats….And i would proudly say its a proton inspira
although i m not a lancer fan, but i think with this kind of Inspira pricing, Lancer owners should not feel too bad lah.
Initially some said the new Inspira is going to be priced at RM 70k. If that is the case, Lancer owners sure pengsan.
Now I really doubt this 90k Inspira can sell…
but mak mertua still said “ooo, kereta proton je” instead knowing it is mitsubishi. first impression maa.
Eventhough inspira 2.0 is RM 95k, the interest rate will make as if you are buying the car at 110K+, if you take loan for 9 yrs, so no regret Lancer owner, if I have money, definitely I will buy Lancer..
Nope… If I the owner, not only said but will said ” I drive Proton Inspira” mean I drive proton car with Lotus tuning. :)
who the hell in their right mind would pay 96KRM for a PROTON REBADGE
when jus bump abit more and u can get the real deal
might I remind you this is a proton and not a toyota or honda
they have some cheek to charge so damn expensive
how long is proton going to be an “infant” company?
Forever an infant.
Fight it out with the big boys and remove the import tax
Sink or swim malaysia. that’s the only way to move forward.
talk is cheap bro, hyundai has long been in automotive industry yet government protection…proton is onoy 25 years old, how to fight with big brothers?
bmw ? merc? since ages got here , nothing to proud with la
In Korea, all Korean support their own product including their Gov. Here in Malaysia No.. No.Ask KJ what car he have. Ask Mukriz what car franchise holder he have.
Last year budget, what MITI want.
1. All 20 years car to check puspakom
2. Kedai potong will be closed May2011 etc.
Not to mention gov. favour Insurance company when deal with more than 15years old car.
This all because want to force rakyat to buy a new car especially proton.
This year also MITI suggest to Najib to do car expiring scheme but are not entertained.
Same goes to MP as Education Minister of Malaysia last time but never his child study at malaysia, all send to oversea.
For all Proton supporter here.. do you think that GOV care about you??
What do you get as proton supporter. Get paid??
bro, i agreed with u..this phenomenon is natural in malaysia when minister even don’t used proton instead force rakyat to buy proton by imposed high tax to other car manufacturer..to all blind proton supporter good luck 2 u all….i wonder what car Syed Zainal drive right now..
blame a few
kill many
think
Paul, do you have any fuel consumption figures. The lancer 2.0 GT figures are pretty high.
nice job proton..x sabar nak test drive & memilikinya..tapi klu pengusaha teksi guna model ne utk dijadikan teksi, hmmmm…
teksi thailand cantik kan? Vios n camry..takpelah malaysia pakai lancer, mcm waja, cantik sikit teksi kita di mata pelancong, takla pemandu teksi guna toyot corol yg ol’skool tu lg..LOL.
Bashers are just bashers,they talk crap instead of fact.
They’re born to be like that.To all bashers,if you saw this post,please immediately thumb down this post.
nice one proton..!
Now can u pls put in the 2.0 Mitsu engine into the exora? too long waiting period for campro turbo la..!
Kenapa baca jugak info terbaru Proton kalau dah mentaliti still tak berubah . tu ego namanya. Hee.. Kita kena refer fakta dan bukan khabar angin. lg pun yg kerja kat proton tu rakyat kita jugak. Sama2la beri komen yg membina. Anyways good job Proton. Kalau kereta proton spec UK sama dengan spec tempatan tak mustahil proton akan jadi salah satu kereta paling berkualiti. Saya dah 8 thn pakai Wira Uk spec. Takde masalah pun. Hope one day Proton dapat keluarkan Muscle Car. Well Done Proton
agree wit u bro.realy hope proton STOP double standard toward Rakyat Malaysia.
ATAU pelat mat saleh lebih ade standard?
my bullet car sure cannot potong dis type of protong. But I’ll win the FC compare to dis 1.8..2.0 rebadge car called ins’pirated’.
honda huh.. one news… y nowaday car are more likely to burst into flame when accident (if you notice recent news..) old cars i think never do that!…even wira ..
ford ada tarik balik kesemua satu model suatu ketika dulu… sebabnyer kereta 2 akan terbakar jika dilanggar dari belakang.. aku dah lupa model ape n tahun berapa.. 80an kot.. saper tahu kongsi2 yer…
u read the paper la this week 2 honda car get burn in accident la.. fake honda..1 in kl n 1 around ipoh..
saw it…new City crush & burnt 6 ppl dead… T.T~ kesian….
baru isi fuel full tank kot.
Compare this picture
http://paultan.org/photo/index.php?album=proton-inspira-soft-launch-at-coe&image=dsc_0689b.jpg
and this picture
http://www.dymee.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/201004/4f5fd_08.mitsubishi.lancer.340.jpg
just compare the gap between body panels
Out of your mind.
Bro, I did realised that before you posted the comment. I was wondering why are those gaps SO big?
Smart Guys Get It! Rebadging strategy is a business considerations. Get it?
No matter how ppl trying to convert look alike Mit.Evo.
Proton means is proton. Brainless ppl will buy tat piece of crap…
80k !!!! Add a few more & rather go for an IMPORTED Car, Vios or City…
yeah compare C segment (inspira) with B segment car (vios city) 1.8 vs 1.5 .. meh?
Vios, city wit 1.5 , So wat. ??…but carrying Brand, Reliability, comfortable, low FC…. etc . Even inspira wit 1.8..2.0 or wat ever! wanna go racing…??? Most ppl targeted dis car 4 sure convert to Lancer… Looks like china made Fake Iphone…!
like how failing in braking and failing in style and definitely failling in look…proton problem also ah problem power window and door handle….and before you say the recent callback its a gen 2 and neo which is only a spring….not the damn braking system….don’t you find that to be stupid
wait till i become the new proton owner!!
hahaha…
ill never let u all down..=)
very funny to think inspira owners to change the badge to mitsu one (lancer gt)
what for? mitsu cars don’t have superior lotus r n h like proton cars
evo x is another story , cannot compare it with inspira
if a turbo charged r3one is out then the story is same again
this is different when wira period, it doesn;t have LOTUS r n h
just stick with proton badge , or better with LOTUS one. lol
finally P1 doing rebardge Mit. model.. actually from here they can learn more techniques and also technologies from the japanese…..bravo P1
Don’t worry….they’ll never learn
Smart guys WON’T get it.
Normally mitsubishi will sell their old model and technology to proton before they come out with their new model. so the new Mitsubishi Lancer will coming soon. do u still want to buy the Inspira?i feel disappointed with Proton cos this time they too ‘lazy’ to create new model and just copy and paste.
They’re actually busy with their core model… new PERSONA R for global market and Proton EMAS… this 2 models will open the critics eyes the potential of proton.
INSPIRA?? just to generate some xtra money from available demand that proton can benefit… so.. will INSPIRA will be a good buy?
Yes.. until they launch Persona R..
Another disaster for the car industry just because to Protect Proton.
After 24 years and still need to rebadge? It’s good for the consumer with more choice with 80K pricing range but again this will discourage invester from setting out their plant in bolehland thus reducing revenue to the country.
Please go and ask those CKD plants from honda, toyota, nissan how they feel for the rebadge with this type of pricing. I think they better pack their plant out of malaysia.
Suzuki Alto to be rebadged as a Volkswagen in India. Have you heard about it? There are so many rebadge car around the world if you really read news a lot INSTEAD OF BLIND BASHING!!
Just one to share with you on the rebadge excercise. Please see some thing that i found in the website, just google “list of rebadged cars” or “rebadged cars” & then you can see some of the list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badge_engineering
http://listnewcar.blogspot.com/2010/08/peugeot-and-citroen-to-rebadge.html
Above of some the link I see it… Enjoy… :)
do you honestly think that T & H pricing are due to the were not able to lower the price?
Talk to any industry insider and the will say the same thing as I am…
they are making a huge margin per car,
Mitsu main belakang mali. The damage is done. I would refrain from washing my backside until I could sell off my Lancer. Any taker?
Ye, sepertimana yang ditonjolkan di muka depan Utusan Malaysia hari 15 Oct 2010:-
ADA KESAN PENETRASI !
Mitsubishi should never be trusted anymore. Never buy their Triton, Grandis and even their aircon! One day they will betray you like what happen to all the poor Lancer owners! It’s like your wife sweet talk to you before marriage, turn and look for your neighbour after 2 years !
Last time I hate Proton as their build up quality was too bad, now their built up quality has improved and much much better than Toyota and Honda.
haha all those proton bashers, you guys viewing this news just to criticize P1 as much as you can, yet you have never tried the car. why simply judge? i’m pretty sure that business-wise, proton will get good profits from selling this inspira, while you guys wasting your time bashing them. lol
haha all those proton bashers, you guys viewing this news just to criticize P1 as much as you can, yet you have never tried the car. why simply judge? i’m pretty sure that business-wise, proton will get good profits from selling this inspira, while you guys keep bashing them. lol
most of them bash bcos cannot afford 1 of it? I like the Inspira also… but the price is over my budget…..
i just bought Lancer GT for 4 months. The cars is indeed a superb carb in term of performance. But now, i’m thinking to let it go due to my frustration towards MMC who not even bother to think about their loyal cunstomer. in this scenario, i;ve lost my faith and loyalty to them.
so pls,people outside there, who lookong to get a second car of mitsubishi lwncer GT,please don hestitated ti call me, 0196260250
the car is well main.highest bidder will ne thecwinner,so pleAE.PRICE IS NEGOTIABOE
Why didnt you research before you buy? Everyone in the motoring know Proton is rebadging Lancer since LAST YEAR!
Had you waited just 4 months you would have gotten the car at much cheaper price and Lotus handling to boot.
u can only sell ur car under or about RM85k, ppl may consider it….
no need so sad, in this case you are big brother, Inspira is your copy car little brother. soon you will see a lot little brother look up you when they stop beside you. but just becarefull with your Misu badge coz they are a lot lancer wannabe out there.
Don’t be down la bro…
Mitsu Lancer is still a great car. Besides, the Inspira 2.0 is RM 95k, but needs MOD to make it look like your Lancer GT.
Not cheap to Modify Inspira, the 18 inch sport rims, body kit, GT wing … cost at least RM 10k… Not many folk can modify. On the road still can see the difference between Lancer GT & Inspira. Also interior, very hard to modify.. no matter how, the proton emblem still there on the steering wheel.
The Lotus DNA? To be better, go upgrade your Lancer GT with Koni suspension.
BUT Inspira is also good car too because have Mitsu engines & gear box.. Hidup Mitsu… Also in future plenty of Mitsu spare parts available, good for Lancer resale value.
Inspira is the best Proton model ever with superb Mitsu engine…
at 80k, CKD, I still feel proton is greedy. A new Lancer in the US is about USD15k, that is less than 50k or does it mean government tax us 30k for a 50k car?
So now we can see proton also been tax… Before no one can’t see it… so who said proton car no tax ?.
autojohndoe, dont hide behind other log (Initial R) in name. This topic has been closed… u idiot ! You have agreed that the NAP is a total failure and Proton is blood sucker….now u raise the topic again ! YOU WILL BE LOSER FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE autojohndoe
There are three things you have not considered:
1) Cars mean different things to Malaysians. Cars in most developed countries are not status symbols – hence, people dont really care about all the trim and fluff….Rear parking sensors are not standard, rear power windows, no spare tyre (faux temporary only) etc. The cheapest car in the range there is really really basic: You pay more for extras. Currently in australia, a 2009 (last year) model, new, 1.8 CVT lancer is around AUD25k (RM75k) OTR+insurance. A midrange (2010 build) one is closer to RM90k OTR.
2) Basic internet prices do not include on the road (OTR) costs! Insurance, road tax, plates, registration etc. In malaysia it is customary to give buyers final OTR costs. It’s practical because in malaysia, most OTR costs are standard throughout the country, unlike in the US where it varies by state (so they give the basic basic price). The basic basic (non-OTR) cost for a Persona is only USD10k beat that.
3) Yes, the government taxes proton too. It’s not unusual. Protons in Thailand are more expensive than they are in Malaysia, yet are still among the cheapest in their class (explain that!!) because once OTR costs are considered they are actually affordable!
In developed countries income tax is phenomenally higher (~45%) so just because cars arent taxed, it does not mean people pay less tax. However, despite the higher tax, people from developed countries earn 3-5x more money (purchasing power parity adjusted) than Malaysians. This is the REAL reason why cars are unaffordable in Malaysia.
Im not saying you dont find wanky compensating blokes in developed countries, but people there compensate in different ways… It’s well known that having the pimped out family sedan with big loud exhausts is inversely related to the size of one’s genitals. =)
in US, u earned 3k, your lancer only rm15k.
here you earned 3k, your myvi 50k, income tax my head.
spot on!!
Hmm… I wonder if Proton will export this one… and if it does, how will people in those countries it exports to react to it, since the Lancer could already be available in their markets?
Super-matured market like the UK, for example… most Brits (if not all) will surely go for the Lancer even IF the Proton is cheaper… Donno la, just a thought…
but if proton make it properly, and better than original, why not?
remember Satria GTI? it’s basically Mitsu Colt, but with Lotus magic touch it become very popular in UK and Australia.
oh ya.. forgot to add:
phase 2 will be ready in 1 year after the first launch, which will have different look & styling for exterior & interior. Proton has to do the design changes later because Mitsu don’t want the Inspira competing againts Lancer in export market.
So if you want Inspira with Lancer look, get it now.
If you want new/ fresher look, wait another 1 year :)
try exporting it to Singapore…….
ape susah hati..kalo rasa 30k mcm 30sen, bole gi beli lancer gt…no one will stop you…but kalo rasa nk jimat skit, bole beli inspira..free country..your money, u decide how u spend it….apa masalah?? bising psl copy and paste la..pastu pakai jersey ciplak dari petaling st gak…apa sakit hati sgt tgk org lain…different people value different things…
izwan…pernah dengar tak..”belilah barangan buatan malaysia”. Manalah kita x marah jika barangan malaysia tu copy and paste..identiti malaysia tu maner? Maner? Tulah pasal..
1.8 manual got Body kits kah?
now they’re already making it at kedai abangs (brothers)…sure rich next year…:-)
nice look…
nice price…..
hopefully…. nice quality
a : what ‘s all this stuff?
e: turn it on when you want traction control, other buttons to turn other functions
a : i don’t want to turn on anything , i want it built-in!
e: sorry this car cannot do that
a : shit , i dun want this car, what i want is just drive an enjoy!
INSPIRA
There’s a lot of people here think it’s wrong for P1 to rebadge the Lancer.. i bet they just P2 owner that think P2 make and design their own car.. hahahahaha..
Proton need a serious development test….Inspira is an copy paste. My point, let say if proton want to produce a new model, like Research and Development. I would suggest that Proton should spend more money on development like build their own engine, upgrading their buliding quality like Hyundai(which began as humble carmaker, and now look at hyundai sonata, its look great!). They also need to fly to German to test their car in li “Green Hell” Nurburgring North Loop, or fly to United Stated to development in desert Arizona, Texas or anywhere. Proton has alot money, they own a Lotus, but why dont spend money on this? why….if Proton learn the European, Japanese, Korean and American way to build the car, im sure Proton will build it better. But if they didnt, it will continue become useless car maker. People will consider high quality car rather than this.
Every car marker have they own secret recipe & even proton can’t go and rob the recipe even they have owned Lotus. The Mitsu & Proton MOU said proton can’t touch the engine & body built but other’s can customize by proton. Lotus handling is one that most of the world car manufacturing want it even by VW like to owned it. How about we wait the time we all get the chance to test drive & compare it with same level lancer. Have to remember also how many malaysian will go for 1.8 & 2.0 car ?. Even the most malaysia buy Japs car also sellect 1.5 to 1.6 only and few get 2.0 and above. So i can said the plan is right since the market also not that big (only for malaysia & for few asian country). So why need to developed new WAJA platform. Step by step la my brother. Big change not come in one night… Even Ford also have bad time in the history… Phoenix project on the way, Persona in development, even Perdana Replacment is on the way. Don’t to excite “Tiger”… The good thing will come up “Junior”…. :)
The only thing I’m dissapoint at the Budget 2011 didn’t support enough people whos bought Malaysia products or support Malaysia product should get special rewards i.e tax reduction.
This should be done so that people who bought Malaysia products feel special privilage and proud of it.
no matter how nice is the car, at the end is SOTONG. I believe lots people here was driing national car before and know the quality.
with my affortable RM80k budget, do I really still want to driving national car again or jump to other stage of life.
no one here care with your 80k… unless he/she is car seller…
go buy something with your 80k…
johnDISSAPOINTED,
Why think of selling when you liked your car? I’ve used Neo for two years, and the the list of problems I had with the car,( a lot of time wasted) , the LOtus tuned suspensions( as informed) is great …but I have to get it repaired 3 times in 2 yrs…sold of the car after vwarranty ended( suspension problems again,plus others that SC can’t rectify)…so think again John…
We malaysian will make sure proton will end up like rover…British dont wanna buy them.. sell it to China.. be end Proton..
bagi saya kereta yang proton pernah keluarkan dan tiada masalah adalah proton wira dan juara. ok….. bagi model lain yang proton RND sendiri tersangat banyak masalah….. contohnya waja dengan masalah cerminnya. gen2 dan personanya dengan masalah oil pan nya yang senang pecah dan bocor. kena batu sikit dah rosak. Apalaaaa….. latest news…. kereta gen2 staff polis terbakar akibat masalah enjin. itu bukan kali pertama….. sebelum ini pun pernah berlaku. memang masalah betul. kenapa engineer proton tak atasi masalah itu. kenapa tak pakai terus semua teknologi lotus untuk kereta proton????? lagi senang. lagi pun teknologi mitsubishi beri dah ketinggalan…. dan rim inspira kenapa hodoh betul…
malaysia kan ada kompeni rim sendiri. iaitu BSA…… designlah cantik cantik. kalau nak tanyalah dengan orang ramai. biar dia orang pilih rim mana yang cantik atau tidak…… harap inspira tak ada masalah. ….. HIDUP MALAYSIA,,,,,,
bro… you have to understand our industrial capability… do you think we have enough knowledge in industry?
If you are office man type… you will NEVER understand…
its not about ‘capability’ alone..
the problem with our national cars is more on ‘mentality’..
give them 5 or even 50 years…they will only lose behind more and more.
by then u still wanna talk about capability? *faints*
bang, wira masalah power window.
beli saga blm la. masalah power window mesti tak ade. tapi, masalah iafm pulak (batch awal-awal dulu)
You got money you buy Lancer la.
You got not enough money you buy Inspira la.
You got no money then come here complaining for what?
Silly people… Given choice still dont know how to choose.
i concurred!
i add same more bombastic comment
u got no money??? why want to buy car…..
move with your own feet la….
free maaaa……sihat lagi…exercise….
no worry about monthly pymwnt etc…….aiyaaa…
aku rase dari buat proton inspira baik lagi proton ambil untung jadi pemasang model CKD lancer. tak payah la susah2 customer nk gi bengkel rebadge balik model ni ke asal. sia-sia je usaha proton rebadge lancer jadi inspira sedangkan aftersale customer berlumba rebadge kembali pade lancer.
I also dunno y we need 2 pay so much since is a local car??…Alot of ppl ere tink is worth it coz they cant afford the real LANCER and they tink is a good deal to buy proton.If w/o LANCER ere in M’sia do u guys still tink is worth paying 80-95k for a local car made?….imported LANCER car do hv tax so u guys r comparing it after tax 120k, the real LANCER if no tax will be ard INSPIRA price???….hmmmmm!!!….”SMART GUYS GET IT”???…
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Why no one congratulate proton?….anyway congratulation proton for the latest model…hopefully proton will success in the future as the national car maker, may this PROTON INSPIRA will continue the PROTON WIRA phenomenon…PROTON BOLEH!!!
inspira ni stereng dia hydraulic atau electric power stereng? minyak mcmana? enjin mivec ni minyak kuat telan berbanding civic.. tambah pulak proton dah ubah air intake inspira, rasa lagi kuat la minyak.. civic 2.0 11.7km/l, lancer 9.7km/l. betul ke?
Smart guys get it -yeah rite,mitsu is already at its end life model cycle,next year a new lancer will be unveiled and u guys who bought this cloned lancer will be cursing like mad..this is only a short term strategy by proton to repair its image after its poor showing of their famous slow bread van.if u r buying a Levis jeans,make sure its original k,dont by the fake ones as u will be scratching here and there. my condolences to all lancer gt owners out there.im very sure u rather be going for civic FD if u knew this is coming…to proton engineers out there,get a life,stop imitating.
Think you also get a life, see what other car manufacture doing now. Stop show your finger to blame others. Even Levi’s now days you can’t tell which country it produce by see it from outside showroom. Rebadge with improve others thing is difference than assembly rebadge with downgrade lot’s of thing. Ppl not say T alphard as bread van but prase as VIP limo… how sad… If you not like it, please don’t repeat other ppl statement with concrete prove. I have 2 Proton & 1 VW in my line up. Can say much difference than Japs car. Want to wait to test the car first since the tune by Lotus & it mean Europe ride & handling.
iaku baru pikir nk jual Subaru aku..nk sara yg murah2 saja..tp baca kt sini bnyk komen negetif..so rilek dulu la..tngok perkembangan..hehe..biasa la..Proton kan ditubuhkan utk mengkayakan kroni..nasib baik la pengasas dh tersungkur di Australia,tp x kojol lg..Mat Indon pon naik Toyota & Nissan kat sana..xmau diorg beli kereta Malaysia..haha
ahahahaha ketinggalan la bro ni
exora popular kat indon la..
apa barang?
By looking at the price, yes the price region is good for a 1.8 car. Comparable to Proton Exora. Please don’t compare with Vios and City. You are actually comparing a reputable brand Toyota, Honda and Proton and not the class itself. Is the matter of PROTON and nothing wrong with Inspira. The nearest competitor will be Kia Forte. Again, is matter of comparing Korean Technology and Japanese Technology (Malaysian Made). But again, if you are thinking of maintenance for korean car is higher, is you choice by not comparing.
For sure, PROTON car cannot lower selling price for their cars, that’s why the import tax imposed on CBU car. For instance, you may get Proton Persona high spec with RM 55K or you prefer 55K for Toyota Vios? I will choose Toyota Vios. But, if you increase Toyota Vios to 75K. I will choose Proton Persona as I don;t have 20K extra.
Again, Rakyat support Proton National Car, Please the Nation Support Rakyat as well. For example, can anyone explain why bank interest is higher for national car compare to non national car? ?? how you expect the rakyat to react?
Modification will happen to every car depends the owner. BMW can become M3, Mercedes can become AMG. Toyota can become Lexus. What’s wrong if Inspira with Evo bodykit?
Good Luck Proton. I’m waiting the small capacity turbo charged engine from you. Produce a good engine for all your car model, from compact, sedan, MPV…like what you did for Campro.
current interest:
vios 9years=2.88%
INSPIRA 9y=4.0%
why?
vios should be 2.98%, bcos last time i m interested to buy one… but didn’t buy it…
Ask the finance.
vios 1.5 maa….. inspira plak 1.8…. can’t dffrent the number ka???
Did somebody mention higher CC lower bank interest?
low price high interest & high price low interest
u see Air Asia, 0 price but high air port tax
but MAS high price low air port tax
For instance, you may get Proton Persona high spec with RM 55K or you prefer 55K for Toyota Vios? I will choose Toyota Vios.
i will choose persona
vios is nothing against persona
i predict the sale may not good. 1.8litre and 2.0 litre around rm80k to 95k. not expensive but fuel consumption, maintenance, should put in account too.
if low middle income ppl can afford this price of car but may not afford to pay this high fuel consumption and maintenance. i think only left middle income and high income ppl afford to c segment and d segment car only, but if those afford to buy and pay the maintenance why not pay more rm20k for japan brand ?
this car end of the day engine easy ‘kong’ and power window failure.
another tukang tilik….
Dear John,
You must be living in the early 2000’s….. That was Tengku Mahalel heads proton, when proton manufactur cars with lots of defects…… And producing cars that only satisfy the management, not customer….. But under Dato’ Syed Zainal, things were different, Satrting with Persona, followed bu saga and laterm Exora, it’s a vice-versa. Ever see those car with Power window problems? Yes, maybe, but a lot less than before.
The C segment is for, I believe, for the low to medium income earner, with average household income no less than RM7K…. Surely they can afford fuel etc.
Mine have a Cat C, which is Persona and a Cat B, a conti cars. So far have no problems with service, fuel, annual insurance etc…..
You see, Inspira is a complement to Persona, and being a non-core model, Proton just simply rebadge it…… just like Holden apollo in Australia (they use camry)……
Being a relatively small market, it is unwise desicion to develop new floorpan for a non-core models. And that’s what business.
And for your word ” engine easy ‘kong’ and power window failure.” is really fantasy.
rebaige ?
if it is rebaige only then good. but will internal sparepart also use mit. lancer parts from japan ? if like that, former PM cronies eat shit loh.
dont let the body cheated us ! be smart !
proton to comeout this car is stupid strategy. RM80-95K for c and d segment car.
what level income ppl they are target actually ? if low middle, they afford to pay for this price but could they afford to pay the high fuel consumption and maintenance?
if middle and high income ppl, do we think this ppl will buy proton brand ?since only add rm20k can get japan mit. lancer.
why want to get the car which also power window failure and engine problem. etc
Inspira is not core product it’s niche product, so what ever the basher said it just take note only for reference on core product (Satria, Exora, Incoming replace Perdana & Persona R are core product). So the target Inspira more for middle & high paid income. So mean “kalau tak mampu jangan nak pakai, nanti tiap bulan makan maggi ajer”.
sound like honda and toyota sales person yg tertekan……….hheheh
Smart guys will wait the official launch to make a booking. You never know what P1 surprise or conned you. The truth is smart guys never buy COPYCAT cars.
well said….
Tell that to Naza Forte owner nationwide.
Tell this to all Myvi, Forte (NAZA right? Not Kia) Owner.
All of them are not smart guys?
very funny , if you say like that then there so many cars in the world that are copycats
maybe you yourself are driving one of them
Hi CopyCat..what car you drive ? Forte? Ria? Citra? Myvi? Viva? Kelisa? Rusa?Suria? opps..sorry..smart guy don’t buy copycat car…
i like….well said
In order to put proton on the right track is by improving on its products…since they’re going to increase local contents to 65%, its is crucial for p1 to emphasize on its vendors QA/QC….or even their own r&d dept…especially material selection..
Proton, beware of basher…;)all of these provocative comments shows that you have a big issue to solve.
HHH says:
Why no one congratulate proton?
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Congratulations mitsubishi…….they are the one who’s making the most profit …SMART GUYS GET IT…thats MITSUBISHI
anybody wanna buy Mitsu badge front and back….?
until stock lasts…………only for Inspria customer……
you better stock banyak banyak…..cos not only inspira, but i saw waja’s and persona’s with mitsu badge too
all the best with your business
Firstly nk ucap tahniah pada proton sbb berjaya menghasilkan sebuah lagi model baru proton inspira walaupun ianya rebadge dari mitsubishi. Kami faham ini adalah strategi proton untuk menjimatkan kos R&D supaya peruntukan tersebut boleh disalurkan untuk model yang lebih demand permintaannya seperti persona dan emas. Kami faham proton telah belajar dari kesilapannya dengan penghasilan kereta savvy yang tidak mendatangkan keuntungan sedangkan perbelanjaan R&D yang begitu banyak telah dikeluarkan.
Maaf komentar saya dalam bahasa melayu. saya amat kecewa dengan rata-rata komen dari pembaca blog ini. Boleh dikatakan hampir 80% daripada 845 komen yang diberikan komen negatif terhadap proton. Saya harap pemilik blog ini paultan boleh menjemput datuk syed zainal utk sama2 berkomentar dan sama-sama berbincang supaya kita boleh hentikan segala prasangka buruk dan negatif terhadap proton. Saya bukanlah terlalu meminati proton, tapi saya x suka terlalu ramai disini yang membenci dan memperlekehkan proton. Apa yang saya perhatikan disini kebanyakan dari mereka tidak puas hati terhadap kualiti kereta yang proton hasilkan. dan mereka juga tidak berpuas hati dengan cukai tinggi yang dikenakan keatas kereta import sehingga mereka tidak mampu membelinya. Jadi bagaimana kita nak atasi masalah ini supaya semua rakyat gembira dan proton kembali ke zaman kegemilangannya.
Pada zaman Dr Mahathir dahulu, rakyat ditanam dengan semangat cintakan negara. sebab tu rakyat amat menyukai proton kerana proton lambang negara. tapi sekarang, semangat ini dah hilang, semua dah membenci proton. pantang rosak sikit canang kat semua kereta proton teruk kualitinya. inilah hakikatnya yang sedang berlaku.
Saya takut terlalu panjang pulak komentar saya ni nnt menyampah orang yang membaca. Saya cuma harapkan ramai orang yang akan mengucapkan tahniah pada proton selepas ini… time kasih proton.. Teruskan perjuangan.. Saya bangga dengan persona yang saya pakai skang.. xde masalah pun.. hehe.
Model Proton Inspira yang baru ini banyak mencetuskan kritikan
Tahniah saudara kerana mendapat kereta proton yg berkualiti… Kebanyakkan pembeli proton disini yg memang tidak bernasib baik, termasuk diri sy sendiri, tu yg kutuk proton..
waja 2001 saya, walaupun dah tahun 2010, masih lagi patah door handlenye… mengapa?
Tu tak kira lagi pembeli yg baru keluar dari pusat jualan, masih berplastik lagi seat dia, turun tingkap untuk isi minyak, tiba2 kaput power window broke down, siap kena gelak lagi dengan pam attendan..
Lagi, makcik yg beli gen2, siap masuk suratkhabar lagi, kerana kereta proton dia never ending problem, asyik kena repair kat pusat servis, sampai perit nak beli proton dah… Mintak proton supply ganti dengan kereta baru tak dapat… apa cerita kalau kualiti proton mcm ni?
laaa carik la vendor lain, mgkn vendor serupa yg buat , mana nk tahannnn
kat kedai abang kn banyakkk tanya diorg yg vendor lain kuarkn
okies
mmg la savvy tak la menarik
tp takat potong vios tu takde hal la
lebih lebih kat corner
tercungap vios nak kejar balik
haiyakk……
wake up la man,
please understand MADE IN MALAYSIA word.
what is the meaning MADE IN MALAYSIA KASUT BUATAN GOMBAK and
MADE IN MALAYSIA PROTON INSPIRA???
can u explain waht the meaning of?
which product u proud of?
PROTON INSPIRAted MADE IN MALAYSIA???
made in malaysia with lotus tech
cannot get it if japan made
and exora will be sold by mitsu in japan
can we call it being pirated too?
stupid
mit lancer is mit. lancer , cannot compart to the inspilancer which proton cars life-time power window failure, engine over heating. auto cruise jamed during functiong. absorber also not durable. And..door pull handle break easily.
proton is mahathir, mahathir is proton . this is not icon to national but cronies icon
Salam semua…
Setuju jugak dgn komen Peminat Persona…saya dulu pun pemandu setia kereta nasional (proton)… Bab klon mengklon ni bg saya perkara biasa, normal…Ramai kt muka bumi ni suka tiru, apa salahnya tiru kalau benda benda baik.. Lg pun nk customize benda baru of coz la oppose higher cost… Dan sebut pasal Inspira ni, satu je saya nak komen, kalau dah adopt Mitsu Lancer, apa salahnya adopt 100% biar sama betul2 macam Lancer… kita pun maklum myvi=passo, kancil=mira so tak salah kalau klon sepenuhnya…body Lancer mmg cun abis…tapi bila tgk Inspira ni ada tukar sana sini, ermmm kurang menyengatlah (walaupun rupa jerung tu maintain)… Tak kira la dari segi saiz, kedudukan grill depan etc biar le sama…harga blh tahan (sesuai dgn kapasiti) kalau dpt dikurangkan lagi, tentu lebih bagus…kalau markah 10, saya blh bg 7 la…
I was wondering, if lotus technology been injected to the new Inspira, then first few hundred units are CBU? Doesnt it make sense? its coming from Japan, and it has Lotus DNA. Come on la, marketing gimmick or what!
Plus first few hundreds, meaning. the manual and autos. there will be a lot and what is the factory doing? cant produce that much on time or malaysian made has lotus DNA in it while Japan’s none..
Adui…
Since we cant view the rear of the Inspira, here are some wording we can expect;
1. licence by mitsubishi
2. handling by Lotus
Any other suggestion????
Since when does the article stated that the first few unit are CBU model? If the car is a complete build up from Japan there should not be any changes even in the bumpber, interior and the rim. The only changes might only be on the badge like current forte.
What they inform is currently only a few percentage is using local parts and later on they will increase the percentage over time.
This unit is a complete CKD. Please read first my friend.
Yeah my friend. Go ask Proton SA. I got calls everyday saying better book now, its CBU for first few hundreds.
Meaning, its either the SA has false info or she is falsing the info.
huh? already have the half cut of Inspira?
Whilst I welcome more choices, it is ironic that the only reason the PI is cheaper than equivalent models is misusing their position as National Car to obtain a lower duty/ excise duty. When is a 30% local content re-badged car be National Car? If so, than all the CKD cars shd at the same import duty/ excise duty rate.
Bottom line is that Kerajaan gets less duty selling national cars but P1 and P2 who are both private enterprise makes more money. I am hoping their do a special run of 100 units of Evo 10s for RM140K for the loval rakyat.
Anyway, this car has instant upgrades/ accessaories/ half cuts from Japan that will fit directly. Just like the previous Wira. Great!!!
This is what we get after 25years of making cars ourselves. No originality, creativity and blatant outright copy of mitsubishi.
Amazing isn’t it? Yes, we all love great progress indeed!!!
I support 100% about your input on special run for Evo 10, I book now.
Mari ramai2 beli kete Proton Pungut (Inspira) cap lancer..
Beli Inspira hadiah package convert kpd Lancer & EVO
Dato PM,
Kenapa is tidak dinamakan sebagai Kereta Proton 1 Malaysia?
60 spokes, i did not know that. Wow Imran you sure did your math. I guess only you and i think that the rims need improving.
Lancer sportback as the new satria?=p
Imported Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0GT
on the road with insurance RM73,000
Local assembled Proton Inspira 1.8 – RM79+++ on the road (noted, starting with RM79K)
so, kalau 2.0..? xkan sampai RM95K kot..
apa kes ni…? makan duit rakyat… (reminds me of Proton car’s price in Saudi)
Finally its prices and certain specification is revealed. OK, let’s talk about Engine of 4B10 and 4B11. As we know 4B11 are currently mounted at the Lancer 2.0GT as prime Mivec engine with 155ps. This time congratulate to Proton that they are able to obtain the supply engine contract from Mitsubishi, well done. From what i predict, this engine supplying life span will prolong even longer that Wira generations. What we surprise here is Proton receiving the good engine from Mitsubishi for their Inspira. However, even thought Inspira come with Lancer Chasis and engine, unfortunately its lost great Lancer suspension, as Lancer claim to have same suspension system as EVO X.I should say at its price of RM95k(presuming w/o road tax and insurance), current lancer 2.0GT already sells RM117k++ is not much significant price different with this coming Inspira. Like other ppl comment in paultan blog here, Proton product claim to have so much technical problem and defect, I should think that this coming model will be escape from this bad complaint as follow them for over past 25 years.
Come to the price section, I believe after model launched and the most selling range categories will be the 4B10 1.8 engine with CVT gearbox as you all know our distance road are jam heavily every day and automatic gearbox are most welcome. At Price of 79k for that Proton is totally overpriced. It is so unwise if a serious car buyer never do research before and buying this Inspira. At range of 75k ~95k, there are plenty of good quality car to choose among the range. One thing for sure is the buyer of this Inspira are those big fans of Lancer Evo X, cause getting this Inspira will satisfied the needs…………, Whatsoever lah.
Time to share the knowledge of Proton suspensions system. Through short of time of research and development by Proton. Dare anyone think that there is any new invention suspension will apply to this new model? From day one I heard this model to be launched, I knew they will DNA “Lotus” technology into the suspension as this tactic has use for many model. Frankly speaking, I believe “Lotus” has so far not involved in any of these R&D jobs. We are lucky that Mitsubishi never sell their Pride EVO X suspension technology system to Proton as this is trademark to maintain certain value to LANCER.
I must say, P1 is not improvement since day 1 Wira was launched. Beside that, we will wait and see British TOP GEAR program to insult this Proton next model.
what?
evo x suspension is same with lancer gt ?
you want to go track racing what?
to car of the year
‘However, even thought Inspira come with Lancer Chasis and engine, unfortunately its lost great Lancer suspension, as Lancer claim to have same suspension system as EVO X”
are u sure original Lancer Chasis?? r u sure there will be no differences at all?? one more thing, im sure that proton is the one who dont want to use the mitsu suspension because only they know the best for malaysians. The geographical area is also the main factors why they should change the suspension.. malaysia punya road tak sama dgn Japan!!…. please never insult them coz u dont know anything bout proton!!
If u r a business man, then u know why mitsu is willing to give this model to proton…
Do u know the fact that proton’s engineer, a malaysian, jadi rebutan banyak syarikat international bcoz of their job!! U should be proud of ur own country meh…!!
From the review they said that the handling for Inspira is better than Lancer GT. Go read on the test drive review section.
No surprise as we use Lotus help to tune the suspension/handling(the white guys mest Tu Lan one..) Last time tune waja, satria and now this rebadge car. Don’t you think the Mitsu spend a lot of time tuning and testing already… nya ma….
Dear COTY,
The EVO is a car that has superior dandling, thanks to its suspension setup. Normally, it will have both front and rear anti-roll bar and the size will be bigger. But there will be some drawbacks, while handling is good, ride will suffer. That is why you can’t have both. To eliminate that, they may opt for hydraulic/pneumatic suspension, but the cost will be high, and there will be issues on reliability.
Lotus, know this, and tried, at their best to compromise between Ride and handling. We can have a car that uses ordinary coil spring that can tackle corners with NO bodyroll, but the ride must be equal with Tan Ah Kuan’s backhoe. Do you want that?
And you did mention that the price for the bread and butter version of inspira is too steep. I believe so, but hey, even the J-spec Vios is expensive. It is a non-core model. Just take it or leave it.
And regarding the involvement of lotus in Inspira project…… Sigh! read the whole damn report! Mr Paul wrote that “handling the inspira is better than lancer”…….. You must be too lazy to read the whole report.
hi coty coty
suspension is just one factor that contributes to handling,
are you a vios trd driver?
change suspensn only , got superb handling?
lol
feel embracing if i drive this fake lancer. no face to enter singapore too ~!
Well, i feel proud, its better than lancer in terms of comfort…
Yes you are right there- “Feel embracing” indeed! Dey, it’s embarrassing lah brother! Why embarrassed la? Singaporeans used to buy Wiras when they have Lancer back in the 90’s…. Got no balls to give credit when credit is deserved.
agree, never drive your inspira to Singapore and later kena laugh , kutuk kao .. kao..
it;s not fake
but improved / enhanced lancer with LOTUS dna
Front bumber design similar with bmw 3 series
DSZ its disgusting to come out with this rebadged model with only 26% local
content – you and your team should be sacked for coming out with this
no brainer model.
Stupid… Read first la…
26% is at early stage…
later it will be much more parts to be localized.
I am referring to the post BELOW by OriginalLancer 17/10/2010 at 11:38pm, I think this is the BEST POST so far until now !!!
My post here for those who says “pity u lancer owner”.
let me start with why i’m buying lancer gt. its only because i nampak lancer sebagai kereta yg ada kelas tersendiri. and i know with figure above 100k, hanya golongan tertentu je can pay dat price. one of my fren did pay cash la for whole 120k. if pay by loan, still need consider 1k minimum per month. <–depend la berapa u bayar muka.
those who guy said "pity u lancer owner", and then these guys buy inspira, i nak tanya;
are u guys dah consider nak isi minyak bulan2? full tank rm100++. normally maximum 1 week la for those volume. (except u all beli inspira, then pegi keja naik motor)
already consider for maintainance? (okey, maybe proton already got sparepart murah)
lancer gt using 18 inch sport rim, and each 1 tyre cost rm800(toyotyre/yokohama), or maybe rm450(falken) <–roughly figure. which if change all tyre may cost rm1k above.
later u buy inspira and change 18"sportrim to look alike evo10, try la DONT use tayar celup/second hand.
later i sense almost all proton inspira owner gonna change bumper, put spoiler, change dat dis, just to show u own mitsubishi lancer @ evo10. (u can see today's wira car that become evo-wanabe).
my question, how many of this guy who shout "i'm proud of proton, i love proton dat produce inspira, or proton telah sama taraf dengan syarikat ternama dunia"
think again, u all puji2 proton inspira but later u change the badge into Japanese Insignia. whats dat?
owh, if u all none of them, its okey maa.
next question is why u said "pity u lancer owner" or "habis la keta lancer jatuh harga"
i only take dat as an insult and offensive to my status & all lancer's owner. With that price, i bukannya nak sombong, just nak state here dat we are professional citizen that not only can pay for the lancer gt price, but also able to maintain all the car expenses.
maybe u all can buy/own same car or better car from lancer gt. i respect dat, becoz i did love proton. but when u all shout "pity u lancer owner", think again bro. we are not in same level of living. plzz show some respect! plzz put in your mind, what if u are in the same situation with me/lancer owner. later u know la apa perasaan kitorang berdepan situasi ini. for me, maybe can change/buy new car. but for others, who knows.
think again bro.
Remember, dis post bukannya tuju kat semua proton inspira owner. i dont want u all tembak/kutuk2 i kat page ni.
Only who those keep shouting "pity u lancer owner". <— p/s : enjoy your inspira!
ini ckp org kecewa hahahaha.. xpyh nak ajarla pasal maintenace, pasal tayar , pasal nak isi minyak. igt org xreti kira ke…
Since when did majority of malaysian who buys proton ‘reti kira’?
U are 1 ignorant fella who don’t even the culture majority adapts in your own country.
Lots of malays rather spend 50-70% for car installment every month just to get an expensive seat on the road to fill their ego. In the end, they end up with nasi lemak biasa, nasi kosong with curry gravy just to pay for a depreciating asset.
This…IS MALAYSIANS (majority), which explains our inflation rate as well.
let;s do the poll
salary per month vs installment monthly amount
how is this possible? bank suppose to approve only those affordable, they have own calculated risk to potential client. regardless of race i suppose?? if not, then u gotta shoot the bank for their irresponsible act!
Semua nak komen pasal proton.Sian proton.Bagi aku proton is the best.Proton buat kete atas kemampuan rakyat malaysia.Kalo yang kaya lain la…leh beli…lancer GT ke Lancer EVO.Kalo..ada problem kat keta proton biasalh.Bukn nye semua keta keluar 100 percent ok.ada gak yang problem.Kalo kita tak support PROTON sape lagi kalo bukan rak yat Malaysia.?Kalo aku jadi PM.aku wajibkan semua pakai keta Malaysia.Setiap Umah kena ada kete Proton.Jadilah macam oarng jepun.taksub dengan barangan buatan nye,
Kemampuan rakyat Malaysia? Ko tau tak naper rakyat Malaysia tak mampu beli kereta lain? Bukan sebab tak kaya. Cubalah renungkan.
Itulah masalah Proton – kalo ade problem, “biasalah”. Pergi ke workshop, mekanik kata “Biasalah”. Tukar part bukan murah pun, terutamanya kalau tukar banyak parts sekali – Siapa untung? Vendor. Alasan lain: “Ini gearbox Renault, kene pergi ke Renault lah” (Waja 1.8 – Inilah akibat Proton menggunakan bahagian-bahagian syarikat lain).
Dengan adanya DNA syarikat asing dalam Inspira ini, kalau mana-mana alatganti rosak, apabila balik ke Proton service jangan hairan nanti disuruh pergi ke pusat servis Mitsubishi. Kos servis masa tu lain pula.
Inspira: Keputusan bisnes (business decision), tapi hanya bagi tempoh-pendek dan tak praktikal. Terlalu melulu tanpa menimbangkan kesan menyeluruh.
narrowband or narrow-minded?
kalau asyik memikirkan halangan, nescaya kita takkan sampai kemana pun. memang kita perlu bersedia, tapi jangan sampai takut untuk melangkah ke hadapan.
“Dengan adanya DNA syarikat asing dalam Inspira ini, kalau mana-mana alatganti rosak, apabila balik ke Proton service jangan hairan nanti disuruh pergi ke pusat servis Mitsubishi. Kos servis masa tu lain pula.”
WTF is this. Do you really think that Proton is that bad asking Inspira to be serviced by Mitsubishi due to No parts?
This is Proton not Naza. They do proper testing. Cultivate local vendors for parts and they have their of chain of service centre and COE at Shah Alam.
Sigh. Laymen again.
haha…typical citizen talking. tak sedar diri.. go on la bro. malas nak layan, cakap camna pon tak guna. beli la inspira & cuba la jgn tukar logo tu kalo rasa bangga sangat dengan proton. okey?
I agree with you….to all the Inspirahhhh buyers….don’t change anything on your car which can resemble Lancer Ori….But most of them will do it…since Malaysia is full of wanabeeeessssss…..I better glue my Lancer’s Logo and change all the nuts on the wheels…..hehehehehe….dia olang nanti curi pulak…
if u all read the post here, most of them are supporting proton. good decision la, best product ever la. now, i’m waiting how many of this guy will be mitsubishi wannabeeee? haha… maybe the day u get inspira car-key, that is the day u go to local car shop. change logo, change bumper. as long as u will be look like evo10 owner before showoff to frens.
for those who cant afford, maybe that night go curi logo mitsubishi kat umah2 owner lancer. haha… kesian la u all ni.
aiyoh, suka hati saya lah mau tukar badge ka apa kar, i get to buy the same thing for a cheaper price, modify it to what i like it to be, and still have money in my pocket for other things, well thats my prerogative.
U know malaysia is already like this, high taxes on imports, you wanna change that (go change the gov), but this forum is about cars not politics.
So most sensible thing to do get an inspira 2.0, change the body kit, and i get a lancer gt 2.0. if you wanna spend more money, well its your choice.
if you guys feel threatened that more ppl will own a lancer now, go buy yourself a beamer then…issit so hard for you to rationalize.
next question is why u said “pity u lancer owner” or “habis la keta lancer jatuh harga”
i only take dat as an insult and offensive to my status & all lancer’s owner. With that price, i bukannya nak sombong, just nak state here dat we are professional citizen that not only can pay for the lancer gt price, but also able to maintain all the car expenses
(Wah so sensitive meh? relax la… like that u also considered offensive? walao…)
alo brother…ingat 100k tu mahal sgt ke..pakcik jual air kelapa pon bole beli dah la takat lancer gt tu skang…the thing is, why should i pay 120k if i could get it at 90k…
U got ur point bro, Those inspira owner, u bought the car 95k+interest is higher.LANCER GT 120k, Inspira 95k-Bodykit and rims 10k+rebadge to mitsu so ur car now is 105k, plus interest for inspira is higher….after payoff for both LANCER & INSPIRA are actually not a big diff…i would say 5-10k diff…To me current LANCER owner dun be sad, u should actually gain more coz ur car is CBU rather than CKD…..15k diff is nothing now to the malaysians…….
I am referring to the post by OriginalLancer 17/10/2010 at 11:38pm, I think this is the BEST POST so far until now !!! He is honest and respecting Proton’s Inspira owners. Very informative advice on the cost on owning a Lancer/Inspira.
-Honda,established in 1948,rakyat proud…
-Toyota,established in 1937,rakyat proud…
-Hyundai,established in 1967,rakyat proud…
-Kia,established in 1944,rakyat proud…
-Proton,established in 1983,rakyat keep on bashing la…
*Come on la,Rome was not built in one day…
Aduhai…..
Kereta ——————– OK
Harga RM 79,888.00 – OK
d/p RM8000.00 ——– OK
Interest 4.2% for 9Y — KO
Monthly RM912.00 —– KO
Proton should look deeper in interest rate…. pleaseeeeeeeee
haiyaaa…..
after 25yrs still hide under umbrella??
still rebadge?WTF?
still sleeping?im proud to be malaysia,
but not PROTON.
the quality still like 5yrs experience in automotive ind.
OMG. y every1 get mad? he is not giving suggestion. he just being sarcastic
Faux lancer. National pride? You decide.
8000 for deposit? NVM la … open Mudah then buy kancil turbo or BMW with 1jz, cost less and no need to pay every month… Mudah memang Mudah, Inspira.. sound like Honda Inspire..
hahah….i visit a proton edar branch in seremban..and asked about this inspira..
the hi spec 2.0 – 95000 + 2 years free maintenance.
7yrs loan = 3.95 % interest
9 yrs loan = 4.0 % interest – d/p 5000 = 90000rm = 3600rm interest / yr x 9 = 32400 + 90000 = 122400rm total settlement.
Monthly = 1133.3rm
Lancer 2.0 EX- 116000
9yrs loan = 1.9 % interest – d/p 5000 = 111000 = 2109rm interest/yr x 9 = 18981 + 111000 = 129981 total settelement.
Monthly = 1203.5rm
My question is ..why the rate is soo high for local made brand??
when u calculate it all….no significant amount of monthly payment compare to original Lancer …
off cos the selling price is cheaper..if u buy cash?
if im wrong pls advice..
you guys do the calculation
B18A,
Ai Yo Yo …. Cam tu kar ? Is better to grab a Mit Lancer lor … I heard that Mit going have a new facelift in 2011…. Anyone have the information ?
TQ.
still luv mai Saga 1.5S from de 1992, still power even witout modifikasyen he he heh
Frens…the engine is Mitsu…the transmission is Mitsu…the chasis is Mitsu…and the design is Mitsu…
What is local are some components (these may increase) and how the whole car is put together…and Proton can only mess up these parts right? In fact, some claim that Proton can even improve on the original CBU Lancer…I am ok with that…
So the simple equation for an Inspira buyer should be :
(A) Cheaper price – (B) risk that the local components or the overall workmanship will fall apart + (C) improvements Proton bring to the car = (D) value of the Inspira
Most arguments are on B and maybe some on C…which are intangibles…its up to the buyer to weigh for himself lah…no one will win the arguments as it all depends on your personal experience or bias…so no use to try and win any arguments…just share your knowledge…and experiences…
Can anyone tell me how is the new servicing structure going to affect the Inspira and Lancer? I read that EON will only service Protons by the end of the year. Will Mitsu have enough centers operating by then? Will EON have enough ‘experts’ to properly service the Inspira? Will the Inspira parts be interchangeable with Lancer? Will the quality be the same (meaning will Inspira parts void Mitsu’s warranty)? What are the other differences between the makes…which parts are localised already?…thanks…
aku dulu kat universiti ambik degree mechanical automotive, mak aihh…punyelah susah subjek2 dia…. 5-6 tahun kehulu ke hilir pegang calculator, banyak kira kira, rumus, teori… naik bengkak kepala otak ni. Jangan la kutuk teruk2 sangat kat proton tu… bukan senang nak buat kereta duh……. design luaran antara yang agak mudah dalam proses bikin kereta (ini yang orang suka komen), tapi nak design yang isi dalamnya tu….. (enjin, chasis, gearbox..bla2..) itu la part paling perit nak master. fundamental of mechanical engineering kena kuat gila babas. kalau nak design skru yang kecik tu pun tak reti, takyah mimpi nak buat kereta, kata lecturer aku…. aduh…….
apa2 pun, proton, teruskan usaha! ganbatte!
Yeah dude!
When designing a car, the floor pan (chasis/underpinnings or whatsoever they called it) is the most crucial……. They must not be easy to bend or twirl (high torsional rigidity) but sot soft enough to absorb the impact of an accident.
Suspension setup? They can have Double wishbone as in accord, but that will be too costly…… Most will settle at Macpherson……… Rear? Use Torsion beam (live axle) for less cabin intrusion and less cost, just what vios, altis and new saga use…… Coil or gas? use anti-sway bar? size? The list goes on……
What about the engine? I’m too lazy to write, but bashers must me lazy enough (or stupid enough) by:
1. Have no idea what rebadge is in terms of economic purposes
2. Have no idea what R & H is
3. Have no idea what defect rate is
4. Have no idea what taxes implemented to cars sold in malaysia.
bashers just simply bash….. SIGH!
Malaysia should focus on agriculture like australia and new zealand not automotive industry because there are too many engineers like u. Where do u waok and where did u graduate from ?
Setakat ‘engineer’ bukak bolt/nuts dan keluar universiti takder praktikal experience (at least 1 year kat workshop), lepas tu bangga kater dier ‘engineer’ baik tak yah. “Foreman” aku kat workshop tak pernah gi universiti lagi terer dari so called ‘engineer’ kampung nih. Protong diibaratkan tempat kerja ‘government’ dah. Tak caya gi dier nyer COE kat Subang tu, berpeluh tunggu kaunter bukak, 3pm! Orang lain pukul 2pm dah habis solat Jumaat. Dia pulak habis pukul 3pm.
foreman ko tu ada bagi warranty ke? kalau dia guna barang tiruan, tipu ko segala mcm benda pun ko bukan tahu pun, kan? sebab ko mmg tak tahu apa apa pun!
lain kali nak service kereta, sila buat appoinment ye. jangan la main redah je datang ikut suka hati, kalau slot dah penuh, kan menyusahkan ko pulak kena datang lagi skali nanti. lepas tu, ko komplen proton taknak service kereta ko plak.. haiyooo..
sbb tu laa..kalau takde kebolehan, toksah nak abiskan duit rakyat untuk protect…ni asik asik petronas gak nak kena cover daripada bankrupsi..letih!
ko tak sedar ke berapa billion dibelanjakan dalam bentuk subsidi (elektrik, gas masak, beras, gula, petrol, dsb) untuk protect ko dari kebuluran?
Wowww… really surprised that Inspira create so much attention until this particular post received more than 1,000 comments!!!!
Apelaa u guys bising2 nieee… it’s all about FREEDOM OF CHOICE laa… no one can force you to buy anything that you don’t want. If you want something better, go to work hard for it laa… in other words… ukur baju kat badan sendiri… so get a car that your pocket can afford.
And guys please nail this FACT in your head – THERE IS NO PERFECT, 100% DEFAULT FREE CARS IN THIS WORLD!
I personally wanted this Inspira badly… but I don’t think I can afford it at the moment.
TO PROTON… pls do something about the interest rate… PLEASE USE YOUR CONNECTION WITH GOVT… TO LOBBY WITH BNM AND BNM LATER ISSUE A DIRECTIVE TO ABM (Commercial’s Bank Association) to significantly lowered down the interest rate for national cars… especially for models that requires loan of RM65K-RM70K and above.
Proton… after you have improved the quality of your cars.. the sales price also will be higher and the price gap with the non-nationals will smaller if not overlapped… For sure many of the upcoming models will be sold at a higher price, right…?
this factor (INTEREST RATE) will be a deal breaker for a prospective car buyers… since the monthly committment of a car owners will be one of the deciding factors to buy a Proton or other makes.
Pls look at this matter seriously since it will affect your survival in the long run.
Its about the risk dude, poor people use small-cc cars, and poor people tend to make NPL to the bank….. The higher the risk, the more the interest rate will be. It’s just the banks have to mingle with the risk. And for small-cc cars, the loan margin is high, thus widening the bank’s risk of NPL.
I beg to differ… it’s the ATTITUDE/ CHARACTER of the borrower that contributes to the Bank’s NPL… little relevance with status i.e poor people or rich people.. in fact as a human being, too me it is an insult to generalise poor people = poor paymaster.
Believe me.. I am a banker… too many times I’ve seen rich people continued to live luxuriosly tapi “hutang sengaja tak mau bayar”… but as a Banker also I do realise that Banks do make the above generalisation, simply because small cc-car buyers makes the largest chunk of hire purchase borrowers… so equivalently larger % of NPL come from this segment of clients.
B18A , if your calculation is correct, then smart guys will buy the Lancer(5 yrs warranty), Proton resale value is not that good and worst for bigger cc,but the 1.8 will be a good alternative manual trans will give better fc======
tarakucha, if you say making cars is pening than what about other cars makers?The same thing isn’t it?You’re right,the internal part of the car is the most critical and thats Protons main problem,QC….
buy proton Inspira,…
people buy high end house need to line up, for over nite
But I-phone 4, need to long Q
Buy poor copy rigth Proton…..not Q!
this 25 year proton awared to us…TQ
I oled book one.I mean “Stupid Gay Get one”. Salesmen of Proton told me to step away this model cause if you calculate wisely, Lancer 2.0GT is more worth to buy compare with Inspira 2.0. Why? Because Lancer 2.0GT is now doing stock Clearance at RM123k, u get RM5k off and NCD discount at RM1600(55%ncd), total is RM 6,600 discount to the new Lancer 2.0GT and make up total price of RM116k. For loan side, he say 9 years is 3.1% per annum, therefore, i can hardly see any possiblity to buy the “Smart Guy Get It = Stupid Gay Get it”,Ha ha ha……! Whoever never learn mathematics sure step into Proton Trap this Time.After all, to those dude like to get Lancer alike car, go get the lowest spec of Inspira la and park beside my Lancer 2.0GT and see who is the real king in line up.Ha ha……..i am Lancer real owner and clone kids are behind me!!!
yeah wait till inspira smokes your lancer kao kao, lol
Proton are trying to empty the bank accounts of Malaysians (mostly malays, no offence) who earn below RM5000k a month. It is an accepted fact that malays (I am one too) tend to opt for installments and by running this ‘Smart Guys Get It’ campaign there are basically saying that paying ridiculous interest rates is the right thing to do.
I’ve been in the workforce for three years and started off on a measly Rm3k a month and now earn around RM7k. A lot of people in position went out and bought a Gen2, Neo, Persona etc and payed silly interest. I used an old run down Saga for three years and saved enough to place a booking last week for my very own 1.4 VW Golf paying 70% dp. Please think before wasting your money on this or any other product that requires such a high rate of interest. If you are buying cash then go right ahead.
I care about my fellow Malay brothers and urge you to be wise. Feed your family first, buy your car later.
And that’s why most malay will stick to proton because at the end of the day, it is the cheapest (after the tax or artifically high non-national car tax)….. The same can be said about honda and toyota too. Too expensive but cat B cars still roam on our road, and the number is huge. Poor people will stick to proton and rich people will stick to T & H….
Oh yeah, the interest rates may vary according to CC as well, thus making T & H less competitive now.
If you have money buy Inspira, if you don’t, buy kancil sekenhen…… the choice is yours. Like you, you must be a one lucky person who can afford to have 70% DP for a RM149,000++ car…….
The difference in the total amount to be paid to financial institution for a loan of RM80,000
is RM9,396 (assume 10%DP, one is 2.55% and the other one is 4.00%)
You may get 2.55%p.a. but T&C apply.
And please remember some buy proton not because it is cheap, but because ride and handling dept. You are wise guy to have a Golf (we knew it is a good handling car).
But i dont really agree with your statement that”Proton are trying to empty the bank accounts of Malaysians”, because it is the banks that charge the interest, not proton.
Just my 2 sen
Freddie,
No matter Bank or Proton … they have connection – especially our Gov.
What the Fxxx …. more then 3% of interested rate compare to those Japanese and Korean car … which really a Blood Sucker …
IMHO, dumping more than RM98K cash to buy fast depreciating asset (cars) is not a wise move either… to me that amount of money… better invest in savings/ financial instruments if not business. But heck, it’s not my money (you could be a millionaire already.. i dunno) and like i said before… it’s all about freedom of choice…. just my 2 cents bro… cheers!
Wouldn’t it be better if you had dumped the money you paid for the VW d/p as downpayment for a couple of houses?
I got lucky because my grandfather left me two houses when he passed and my father bought me a shop lot lasy year. I have a seperate account for investments but haven’t yet made any purchases in that capacity. I am lucky enough to have some property under my name without having had to spend a single cent so far.
thats u only ma~ u think others also as luck as u? working 12 hrs/day salary also low…. sad…..
This is not the problem for Malays, this happen to all malaysian i think.
It is the poor financial planning for malaysian.
It is the government policies that “encourage” the rakyat to take loan to buy car. Look at other country, how many percentage of income spend on car loan compare to malaysian? More rakyat take loan to buy more expensive car this will make the so call “economy growth”. At end of the year you could see wahh… GDP growth by X%……
But is the economy is really growth? You spend RM 1k on car loan compare to you spend Rm 800, you will have Rm200 diff. The rm 200 can be spent on other area. The economy will still growth but with one is more “real”??
The other points is if majority of malaysian spend their money on depreciate item, malaysia will not be rich. Let say total value for all car in malaysia is RM1B (I do not know the figure), if every year depreciate by 15%, malaysia will lose RM 150m in car depreciation. But if this RM 1B is in properties, and assume the properties is appreciate by 5%, then malaysia will have Rm50m more.
SO malaysian…… why we need to susah susah take loan for 7-9years on a depreciate items, spend wisely and vote wisely…
Lancer 2.0 EX- 116000
9yrs loan = 1.9 % interest – d/p 5000 = 111000 = 2109rm interest/yr x 9 = 18981 + 111000 = 129981 total settelement.
Monthly = 1203.5rm
where got 1.9% nowadays?sure ah?
7k/month can afford to drive VW Golf..me earn 12.5k/month still drive ’99 kancil..huhuhu
you mistyped the dec point
should be 1.25k per month
latest info from proton dealers, it’s confirm that interest rate for proton inspira initially 4.0% sudah reduced to 3.65% for 9 years tenure (maybank only)….therefore monthly installment for inspira 1.8cvt (after minus 10% dp) is around rm968….
it’s confirm that mitsu are given their 4B engine (full MIVEC) c/w INVECS III transmission…3 years warranty or 100,000km, and 2 years or 50,000km or rm1650 on service and engine oil…2 years without extra pocket monney…SMART GUYS GET IT!!!
Common la…for any Mitsubishi model they offer 2 years free maintenance & 5 years warranty / 100,000km. Even VW offers 5 years warranty / 100,000km unlimited mileage. then got discount & freebies some more. Who SMARTER now ??
people have their own money , also got their own capabilities….got extra money kalo, go and choose mitsu, VW and other brand lah….i’m talking about malaysians car….u can’t simply make a comparison between mitsu, VW and other branded car makers with proton, coz proton still young in term of r&d and worldwide market penetration
it’s confirm that mitsu are given their 4B engine (full MIVEC) c/w INVECS III transmission…3 years warranty or 100,000km, and 2 years or 50,000km or rm1650 on service and engine oil…2 years without extra pocket monney…SMART GUYS GET IT!!!
Common la…for any Mitsubishi model they offer 2 years free maintenance & 5 years warranty / 100,000km. even VW offers 5 years warranty / 100,000km unlimited mileage. then got discount & freebies some more. Who SMARTER now…??
i know vios and city dont offer like that.. that why u so jelous.. even new suzuki swift offer 3 years free service
Why not come up with a new model called proton ULTIMO? The proton ULTIMO should be a copy of the BMW X6. It seems the only way for locals to get a nice foreign car without the killing prices is by slapping the proton logo on it!
Bro, u better register “Ultimo’ cos later proton curi ur name.
haha, yeah that’s a great idea man!
Have to disagree with Average Joe,to qualify car loan, you must have enough documents stating your monthly income, much easier if you have monthly pay slips,….if you look at Gov sec. majority are Malays and the loan process is easy (unless not qualified for whatever reasons)……most of my Malay friends who earn less than 5k can manage their car loans, house, family etc etc…have a good life, which shows that they are good “financial planners”…don’t blame Proton laa….
we started of cloning lancer since the formation of proton,1st was the saga,we inherited mistsubishi traits-clutch pump problem,then wira-with the rattling dashboard and the famous power window issues,then perdana v6 with its gearbox issues,have we not learn our lesson here???still buying another lancer clone???
dino,
Jump Higher … Fall Harder mar … He! He! He!
TO ALL MALAYSIAN! STOP PROTECTING SHITTY PROTON COPY CAT PRODUCT. AFTER MORE THAN 20 YEARS OF OPERATING, IT CANT BE INDEPENDENT AND ALWAYS CRIED FOR HELP. DO YOU THINK THIS BANKRUPT PROTON CAN TAKE OVER LOTUS WITHOUT GOVERNMENT HELP? IF NOT BCOZ OF GOVERNMENT, PROTON IS BURRIED LONG TIME AGO.
FOR YA INFO, TOYOTA PRIUS COST RM 68,409.00 (US $22000) IN JPN AND US WHILE IT COST RM175000 (US $56,279) IN MALAYSIA! WHY? BCOZ PROTON HAVENT RESEARCH THE HYBRID TECH AND STILL BACKWARD IN SUCH TECH. SHAME FOR LOTUS TO BECOME ITS CHILDREN COMPANY. SHAME FOR BN TO PROTECT PROTON.
PROTON WILL NEVER GROW WITH GOVERNMENT BABYSITTING IT ALWAYS!
SO, WHAT TO BE PROUD OF?
HOW CAN PROTON CAN DO THEIR RND IF THERE IS A PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN MALAYSIA.
SO, WHAT TO BE PROUD OF?
wrong…with the entire world babysitting oso wont GROW!!!
u all wan to know why? the PEOPLE behind proton….
governwent wont bring them down!!! why wait for government? why???
join mlm…n start conning all the scums behind protons!!! all the staff!!!
then proton shall go down…
i did it!!! RNG group…n thanks to Lamp Berger too…for conning these lazy dumbass ppl…
the proton ppl all onli know how to talk shit….bcoz they are the majority….they rule izit? no…! guys…pls join the any mlm just for the sake of conning these bascows!
what are you talking about?
this is car forum not place to selll your mlm products
pls go anywhere else
im not selling here la…im telling u guys a way that can really bring down proton…legal way! dont just type here and comment but do nothing.
i already have >5000 strong forces to wipe out all these useless ppl behind proton.
why wait for the next PRU? enough is enough…best way to bring BN..proton…wateva cronies….is thru mlm….
side effects of doing this? achieving financial freedom easily…n this proton inspira i can literally buy n let u guys burn it just to express ur hatred…but its illegal….haih dun comment onli la…if hate pls bring proton down….
proton existence causes others to suffer la guys…got it?
So, U think, Prius transportation from Japan to Malaysia is free kah?
oh you are so ignorant about proton
please go and read news much more
much better than posting here with blindness
I am very sad after we spend a lot of money ( claimed by proton) in R&D, the only outcome we get is bringing the japanese car over here. Everry dumb people can do that. We suppose to have new prototype that can be proud of to every Malaysian. After being protected so long by the goverment, Proton should be a main player in car industiy because of it quality and etc. But after all, Proton is still the same lavel as it started. We’re malaysian already suffered to pay high price just to protect the PROTON!! Just for how long? Hope every executive in there has a dealine to deal with it. If not, just replace them with the capable one.
2 Words … Continue Babysitting …
haiyah guys…senang cerita..i own a lancer evo…not gt….also honda civic type r…
n i will buy inspira as my kereta pasar….
senang cerita, sume brand i sapu k…tak yah bising bising….
u all wan to know how i did it? MLM la brothers….my downlines maintain all my expenses…! no problemo…..welcome to RNG group…tongkat ali pwr root!!!
TAK PERCAYA PI BACA RICH DAD POOR DAD….
Wind up Proton as it’s a failure, says Bung Mokhtar. Proton had embarrassed the nation by trying to pass off a rebadged Mitsubishi. If they cannot afford to design a new model, then just close down. Proton has been doing research and development for years. Don’t tell me that there is no design that can make the people proud. Enough said.
please don’t quote Bung Mokhtar…he’s not known to make sensible and intelligent statements..
Easy to say as you are not responsible to the 11,000 people monthly income.
proton is trying to tap the market and make huge margin from the Insprira. The more people book lagi naik harga.
I don’t mind Proton rebadge Lancer as its new car since Peugeot & Citroen do the same thing but the thing I’m not agree is the price shouldn’t be RM87K as Chao said the Prius only RM68K if in Japan.
there are a lot people out there always know to talk, but not think critically the business nature…go and look for most car makers in the world, why we always nampak semut di balik gunung, gajah di depan mata tak nampak….always think negative on proton….now proton got opportunity to rabadge mitsu lancer, and MMC get proton persona and exora also for rebadge….go and baca lah the aggrement letter between proton-mmc
Here is today well said great news i read from today 19/10/2010 star newspaper…
the BN-Kinabatangan MP, Datuk Bung Moktar Radin call Proton to wound up claiming that the national car maker had embarrassed the nation by trying to pass off a rebadged Mitsubishi Lancer as the Proton inspira….He said he cannot accept Proton’s excuse that it was too costly to develop its own car to replace waja…
“Proton said it would cost rm700mil to produce a new car. if cannot afford tp design new car, then just close down”…”Do not embarrass the country. Proton has doing research & development for years…Don’t tell me that there is no design that can make ppl proud.” he said while debating the budget 2011…
i strongly agree & support the BN-kinabatangan MP words…his words too impress me…well done…
sometimes the insignificant Yb do make logical and constructive comment-yeah, it’s time for a leader to criticise proton, not just us poor unheard fellows.
this MP dont what he talking about……yup This Bung is YB but not automotive person that understand the rational for proton re-branding this car…..my advice do some homework dont juz always hantam sahaja…..
Ada duit belilah….takde duit takyah beli….pakai jer apa yang mampu
tak kisah kereta apa pun janji boleh jalan tak problem tengah jalan okeylah
kepada yang sangat mampu, gaji sampai 5-15 ribu sebulan tu takyah beli proton ler
pakai ler BMW ker, mercedes ke…..apeapelah
Nak membantu sila beri komen yang membina mcm pasal loan kereta, interest rate,
installment….ini lebih membantu kengkawan dalam blog ini
Salam……
Actually we dont need to argue so much…To rebadge or not is not the case.Some how PROTON is not a bad car.My arguement all tis while is y we need 2 pay so much for INSPIRA and the interest rate is higher than normal JAPS & Euro car…U guys should consider izit worth buying or not rather than arguing y proton still rebadge after 20yrs.Tis is the FACT now!!!!……Thr r ppl still buy INSPIRA no doubts abt it, but juz to remind to those who support INSPIRA do ur calculation right b4 u decide to buy tis car.Is abt WORTH BUYING A LOCAL CAR AT TIS PRICE OR NOT…….y not get a CIVIC or ALTIS?
ermm..tak tau nak ckp ape..proton dari dulu sy banggakan..tapi dsbbkan dorg suka copy n paste..aku dah mula kcwa dan sedih tgk keta potong nie..cuba tgk kat Persona tu..bagus kasi nama gen2 sedan je..coz ..look dia dgn gen2 100% sama cuma ada skit ekor..Waja mmg ok bg saya..cuma proton kenala improve skit..bukannya ganti terus ngan inspira tu..dah la copy n paste..aku rasa sedih tgk. sbg contohla.. camry..rasanya byk org minat keta nie..cuba anda bayangkan camry tahun 1996..fuyoo..masa tu kira keta bagus tu..tapi look nampak sangat kolotkan..tapi tgk apa yg Toyota telah buat utk improve dan kekalkan camry tu sampai skrg..mereka sentiasa prihatin terhadap komen, keperluan dan kemampuan customer. Satu lagi, bagi yg minat dgn kete hyundai..model sonata..dari keluaran model pertama hinggalah yg model 2010..rasanya company masih muda lagi kot..tgk apa yg hyundai improve dkt sonata skrg..sporty + elegan+mewah dan mampu dimiliki..design dlman sonata 2010..fuhhh..kalah camry gua cakap sama lu.. byk lagi la keta2 yg masih kekalkan modelnya sperti honda, bmw, ford, dll, mereka buat perubahan yg tidak disangka2 oleh kita yg minat terhadapnya..Bagi proton, model yg saya paling banggakan ialah proton saga..satu2nya model yg mereka improve dan buat perubahan demi kekalkan nama SAGA..syabas!! Saya amat harapkan sgt model Wira, Perdana dan Exora tidak digantikan seprti mana Waja digantikan oleh inspira copy n paste dari Mits Lancer. Harap ada kejutan dan kebanggaan dari model baru yg akan dtg dari Wira,Perdana dan Exora.
coz inspira has superior ride and handling , much better than altis and civic!
civic n altis are nothing
no lotus rnh = sucks big time!
i doubt this inspira will be a hot model among malaysians….proton supporter will say all the great things about this inspira…but really doubt they are rich enough to dump such amount of money…most of proton supporter is not so rich and mostly goverment servant …rm60 000 price is the max proton supporter would go.
(they r some rich people who buy proton..but for their maid to go pasar malam..and for their children..but they themself would probaly drive a high end brand).
off course there will be inspira on our road..but mostly come from the gov agencies who have been forced to purchase (at no tax price) this car.
so all the lancer owner..don be sad..people will still see the inspira is for malaysian who want to be look “classy”..but not rich enough to buy lancer..poor thing.
most of proton supporter would only dreaming to buy this overprice inspira..maybe they could wait 4-5 years more for a second hand unit.
they said they are proud driving a proton…have many zillion times have u guys encounter wira..waja..gen2..with a mitsubishi emblem?…so sad..poor things..
im not bashing proton…just the blind supporter…..ohh im still driving a proton. with lot of “complimentary gift” during these ownership.
“they said they are proud driving a proton…have many zillion times have u guys encounter wira..waja..gen2..with a mitsubishi emblem?…so sad..poor things..”
very amusing..most proton cars are intact with ori emblems
my friend, think about business. the thing about inspira is, it’s not only targeting current proton owners who might upgrade their cars due to increasing income or salary.
Waja is rm66k, Perdana is rm100k. the gap is too wide and Proton has nothing to offer for the segment in between Waja and Perdana. Currently, less than 1000 people buy Waja and Perdana every month, but about 7000 people buy Vios and City. Proton already realise this more than 2 years ago and they quickly looking for partner and model to rebadge. otherwise, they will lost a great potential of this segment.
Inspira is not meant to be ‘the best selling’ model for Proton. It’s just a gap-filler. Or we could say that Proton is trying to get back the customers by offering more models, and with better features than its competitors.
Good comment…..
Let’s do a quick poll.
“I will definitely buy the Inspira”.
Those who want to buy, please give a thumb up and those who don’t, please give a thumb down.
Proton no doubt do a very good work… Proton BOLEH. We have to support our national car. Proton please create or rebadge as many good car as possible to benefit our own citizen.
ya.. must suggest proton to rebadge the GTR.
I have seen Proton Truck loaded with Inspira with White,Red Marron and Black oled. Wonder where it deliver to, but for sure 2.0 version with spoiler and rim design is diff from 1.8.White Inspira in diff rim design is 2.0 i guess. I have booked within 1,000 customer, i sure get the car earlier. Salesmen told me lancer GT is being hot sales now with superb disount all that, and rumour has it, they will annouce closing Lancer model after 2010 and welcoming lancer Hatchback in early March. Lancer hatchback is 2.4 with manual and Automatic transmission. But the new hatchback was spoted in old lancer front grill and EX alike front lip. Salesmen told me if i dun mind to wait, just take the lancer, but lancer is closing soon, what should i do??? i oled book Inspira 2.0 for first 1,000 customer. My accs shop fellow oled have ready stock EVOX PP fit bumper and Evo X spoiler. All i need ti add was the changing to 17″ sport rim. I start feel want to cancel Inspira and buy Lancer 2.0GT oled, coz the cost spend to modify and changing here and there almost buying Lancer GT oled. Very miserable, can PAUL GIVE me your suggestion as my categories fall on 2.0 zone???CAN PAUL do something to my plan?? i have heard ppl say Inspira 2.0 is not worth as int is 4.0% yet lancer is 3%++. Lancer GT still my affordable range, but saving part i not doing so well in how to calculate. Can some1 following pls give me reply and good suggestion. Dun hurt me with bad comment, but at least let me deal a car either lancer GT or Inspira. TX, every1.
if money doesn’t matter, go buy Lancer. the only missing feature would be “Handling by Lotus” thing.
Buy LANCER GT…..1st: U dun need 2 spend cash to MOD ur INSPIRA to LANCER GT. 2nd: If u buy LANCER the look oredi thr and is oredi in the loan so u r actually paying installment for all those thgs u wan to MOD in ur INSPIRA.3rd: The best thg u save time and money and hassle trying to drive a INSPIRA and look like a LANCER GT.4th: U cant change the interior and steering coz the steering emblem will still hv a PROTON logo in thr.
I m not sure how’s the interest right now between Mitsubishi lancer n proton. But If it is according what as you said mitsubishi has a lower interest rate, with long term calculations, it will clearly let u know which brands u should buy after u’ve calculated.
If it has RM5k the differences after the calculation, better go for lancer in terms built quality. However u must consider too that the mistubishi part must b more expensive compare to proton. Of course, bear in mind again, the built quality. Better do some “research” frm the existing lancer owners itelf, whether it is good in builts, maintenance and services too.
Be careful if you want to modify the Inspira.
If you buy the Inspira, then U change to 18 inch rim, this might VOID the warranty on the suspension. If u modify the Front grill, U might risk the warranty on the CVT gear box to be VOID is CVT over-heated. The more u modify the more the warranty will be VOID.
Also not cheap $$$ to modify the car to look like Lancer GT. Also the interest rate higher.
But if you don’t want to modify the Inspira, then the Inspira is also a good buy because it has Mitsu engine.
Trust me.. there is 1 thing tat proton didn’t copy from mitsubishi is the “quality”..
Yeah Mitsubishi quality is the crappiest among the Japanese car.
Hope that Proton will improved the quality and don’t take Mitsubishi quality bulat2
Wow!! RM80,000?? Apakejadahnyer!!
apa pun….kalau nak beli keta ni elok masa kurang part tempatan…saya pernah pakai 2 proton…spare part banyak tapi low quality, so saya pakai imported dari Australia…contohnya pad brake…ori punya pun tak boleh harap…saya test bila pergi genting mmg kurang makan…kena pakai barang import(bukan TAIWAN mali)…vendor tempatan kasi barang kurang kualiti sbb nak cover balik ‘umpan’ tender dan harga borong yg rendah, mungkin juga tak ada R & D…asal buat saja…pasal harga memang tinggi sbb kita punya pasaran Malaysia saja….so kena sembelih utk dapat duit pelaburan…Jepun punya pasaran global…so boleh kasi harga rendah pada rakyat
how about fc? especially the MT one
Patriot Of Country, if what you are saying is true,then by next year there
‘ll be no more original Lancer GT , if Mits offering a lot discount, go for it, full bodykits ,18 ins rims with imported Yokohama,these tyres are very expensive, yes you can make the Inspira look like Evos but its still Inspira…resale value ? why worry if you’re driving the “Original not so many on the road model” Lancer gt will have good resale value……
in term of modification, better take the lancer GT. but think wisely for Inspira, the Inspira new bumper design has give an improvement for the gearbox cooling system that not have in Lancer, and also Inspira handling has been improved beter than lancer.
apa akan jadi kalo persona taruk logo toyota???
persona taruk logo proton = beruk
Teruskan pakai Honda buruk ko tu…
no matter you like or not, Inspira and lancer are same, who buy inspira can just change the logo to mits if they want and who buy lancer also can just change the logo to proton if they like. both r same…….. this is truth……… proton can create another height again in their sales. we will very soon see every lancer (which is inspira) on the road. both service in same center…… got no different anymore. Good job proton. lets eliminate other brand slowly in our country. we support you
addooiii ….. please la proton …create a new face la …even you’ve deal with mitsu dats not mean must 100% same as lancer WTH !!
2nd phase (probably end of next year) will have different styling for exterior and interior. proton will have to change the design more than the current phase for export.
if you want inspira that looks like lancer, buy now.
if you want fresher looks, wait another 1 year :)
guys…im not promoting mlm…
wat im saying is tht in order for proton to go bankrupt…u haf to wipe its entire force consist of people…lazy idiotic ppl…tats y rebadged….
why wait for the government to close down proton? they r feeding their own ppl la…proton is a way to feed this type of ppl…
yet we cant bomb down proton rite? thus there is a legal way…do mlm…cons all the bascows and get rich at the same time….trust me, these ppl are damn greedy n lazy thts y they rebadged all the time…
lure them with mlm…its legal…better than bombing down them or wait for the next PRU la guys….seriusly consider it.
im not recruiting any one of u but speaking of using wateva industry u can to wipe these lazy people…
typo…”wipe out”
PLEASE !! Go find other suitable forum for yourself.. I dun care how’s the way you look at the politic, or government, or proton management, or your so called MLM bombing strategies..
We are here to discuss and giving opinion about the “CAR”.. the “CAR” ok!!!
Do you get it?? “CAR” !!!
this is still a good business move by proton.. i like!!
design dari proton mmg cantik..tapi jgnla slalu ambik face org lain pastu buat improvement kat situ..one thing, u never win..is “quality”. buatla design citarasa malaysia, yg penting ialah kualiti yg ada padanya. Okla..mcm ni la.. kita ambik lancer ori n inspira buat bandingan. Biarkan dua2 keta tu pakai setahun, tak kisahla apa jua jenis jalan mereka pakai, janji tak pernah xciden. cukup setahun, balik tempat uji.. kat sini kita akan tau sapa yg ada kualiti atau tidak…nak tau kan kita tutup pintu atau bonet dah tau kualiti besi yg mereka pakai..kan..kan..kan. ( Dlm tempoh ujian ni, kedua2 kena pakai spair part ori masing2 ekk..modify adalah dilarang sama sekali..keep it all in default ori.) Ada yg berani nak buat test ini..masalahnya..sanggup ke?? Demi utk membuktikan kualiti masing2..rasanya ada yg nak kut….
Anti basher,
Ive juz been to India recently, and if not for the government you are bashing, you wont even be in the middle income group. In india, the Honda City is already luxurious to them and most of them couldnt even afford buying a car. Its due to that expensive tax that support all of you guys to be able to reach in the middle income group.
Pro basher,
However, with so much protection from the government, it made most proton staff so complacent of their current standing and they work like government workers, slow (Not all gov sector, some are really improved). So thats why the cannot design their own model and also quality cars. Besides that, the Malaysian attitude itself that make us unable to produce cars with good quality.
I dun understan wats wrong with Proton? They put so much money on R&D
yet they come out with this stupid car, Mitsubishi Clone not just that in previous
time the also produced Renault Clone & Citroen Clone.
Where gose all the Proton’s designers thats said proud to Malaysian. What happen with the partnership with Lotus. For sure Government always protect Proton with their policies and so on. I not hating Proton but I want they to wake up and and change for gud and stand still without any protections by the government. In the end dont wasting ours Malaysian boys talents and ideas.
Maybe they are busy with new saga, persona r and emas.
seems that p1 has set their “new” strategy…
p1 CEO said “…there is little point in investing huge amounts of money to develop its(p1) own model from the ground up…”
after been able to develop its own model e.g. persona, p1 now wants to go back 25 years into time.
‘some’ said that p1 doesn’t turn back, they just want 2 fill the time before launching their next model e.g. Emas, Persona R, new Saga, Exora turbo. so isn’t all these model that p1 been developed also involve huge amounts of money?
Is this will really make them an indipendent car manufacturer?
Hope it is. If not, change it and consider it better next time so that u don’t waste our money.
we wish 4 your success.
p1 CEO said “…there is little point in investing huge amounts of money to develop its(p1) own model from the ground up…”
You should have finish the sentence to non core model.
you just pick the sentence as what you only want to hear. don’t be stupid Proton still Have Saga, Persona R, Exora and EMAS as their core model and built from ground up.
You are not Happy with Proton just don’t buy. Go and drive your Perodua jauh2.
You are just a stupid idiot 3rd world mentality Malaysian
“You are not Happy with Proton just don’t buy. Go and drive your Perodua jauh2.”
we complaining on p1 because don’t want it to follow p2’s path… just rebadge others car. although it just one model now, it still has some meaning. and they done it again after 25years of experience.
u are just another narrow minded person that always support local product either their decision right or wrong without thinking about the outcome. u just think “ooh, it’s ok, they still have the other model”.
and that was a stupid idiot doesn’t even worth 3rd world mentality Malaysian.
I don’t care whether proton rebadge or not.
Just give us QUALITY product. Don’t let your image tarnished even further, coz, many had enough of you, and that includes me.. But most will give u another chance… Hope quality and price comes together…
i’m agree all of us wants quality product. but since when rebadge car can give us quality? it will never. it just shown others quality (the original one).
that’s why p1 shouldn’t rebadge others car anymore, instead they should just continue moving with that Emas, Persona etc and its R&D. of course it will take times & money, but they must proceed since they already “used” that 25 years. As their capability increase, they will produce a lot more quality products. even that intelligent Prius takes 18 years for its position now.
instead of rebadge, why don’t p1 take that Lancer as a benchmark and make a model that can compete with it. just like the never-produced-sports-car Volvo takes BMW Z3 as a benchmark and make a model that can compete with it. All of these big-names don’t copy each other but they compete each other. That’s the right way.
sorry to make this text looks like p1 was really wrong but i’m just stating the fact. as a person link to this auto industry, i never like p1 to be a laughing stock for the other country
i agreed, if u no money go to perodua, honda n toyota
The leftover…. Mitsubishi just launched a new lancer. Lol
Proton should work with Alfa Romeo and reproduce ( one-off arrangement ) the awesome Alfasud ( strictly manual transmission for driving pleasure ). Only then the Japanese-made sardin- tinned carriers ( not cars) enthuasiasts will drop dead with their mouth agape.
better name:
1)Proton Duplica
2)Proton Plagia
3)Proton Rebranda
4)Proton NoIDEA
another basher who doesn’t know anything about rebadging and auto indusrty
read more please
Wow…thousands of comment…..
A record!
Paul, I don’t know what I’ll do with this if I am you….
Everyone’s ‘loves’ Proton!
Hahaha………, below RM 100,000.00 i oso can own a Misubishi Evo 10…….. , hahaha……………………………………..
Poor designer, how much designer proton salaries? proton designer no ideas?
i’m so disappointed..
I think you should blame the management instead. Designers came out with many hot ideas but still management make the decision.
agree,management make the “weird” decision because power on hand u just do it.
they have creativity team, but all works being rejected by top executive,
they can come out with good design. but cost is higher, mean higher will make many party cannot get 30% commission into pocket.
woooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww. awesoeme
I think it is a win win situation to proton and misubishi, Lancer sales in malaysia is low and not doing as good as toyota and honda. Rebadge to proton is a way for them to increase their sales in malaysia. IMHO they still making the same amount of money rebadge to proton compare to sell direct. The only problem is that people will start to think twice before buying misubishi car, who knows the next day proton come out with a cheaper version…..
i think price for 2.0 should topup other RM5K = 100K. This 5K comes with ori rim 18″, yoko Advan tyres, ori strut bar, and ori gt spoiler.
with all this, proton price can be fight with civic, lancer and forte much2 better..
but, with interest rate for proton to high and second value too bad better think twice.. before buy it…
I dun think the quality will be same as Mit Lancer … As we all know … local parts … local assembly … interest rate 3.6% … Later .. keep complaint … complaint .. .complaint …
Really need to think twice …
if i got rm100k , rather go for japanese car or continental car. with low interest.
be caution. government may increase foreigner car interest rate to match proton. !
yeah…why m’sian car must high interest? we take loan from same bank what…
rm95.000 for a copycat and rm120.000 for the real McCoy !!!!!
work this out guys,they might be using power window motors from cronies factory,and soon???? u might be soaking in the rain hahahahaha.also watch for the usual panel gap,rattles here and there after a mere 10kilo on the road,in 5 years time,the car will age like a 10years old car,get Japanese or continental,they worth your every ringgit or u ended cursing yourself huhuhuhuhu
I second u based on my previous experience with proton before.. ha ha ha… well said
proton??…first i born in Malaysia…never figure out this kind of car…boooooooooooooooo… out of my face..low quality, low standard, low performance, low safety, all is low… -100%!!!!. 10000 only 5% said= ok wat..boleh tahan la proton tu.
coz i never see any improve from them…ashamed wit..puiiiiii…. For perodua i still can accept..but need more hard-work on it..why should second..plzz..step out for no 1..ok. Proton-5 years old car like i drive a 15 years old car..every angle of this car got besi buruk punya sound..for engine..non need to inform..paham2 ja la..spare part…fuhhh.. like chicken sh!!t..
produa also like proton..too many myvi have power window problem…
milo tin car .
tel that vios, city , viva etc much much lighter than old waja
proton inspira launched, good news for half car shop !
while proton still alive, malaysian continue buy expensive foreigner car and many still afford to buy fake mit.
country neighbour ppl own genuine quality mit. malaysia ppl continue own besi buruk mit.avalution .some need use thier p. wira modified like mit.evo 10. pengsan ni
Eleh, orang2 yg sibuk kutuk proton, mengagungkan H atauT tu, sebenarnya tak mampu pun beli. Bagi komen berdegar-degar macam banyak duit. Tulis komen kat sini tak payah keluar modal pun. Jadi diaorang tu berlagak kaya. Tak pandang proton kononnya mampu beli H / T. Habuk pun tarak. Kalau beli pun yang second hand punya. Apa barang lah. Setiap bulan asyik keluar duit nak repair. Maklumla 2nd hand. Harga dah la mahal(walaupun 2ND HAND). Dengan harga SECOND HAND T/H tu baik beli poton baru. Dalam jaminan. Saiz ok, speed ok, handling ok. semuanya ok lah…… Hati tenteram… Hidup proton.
Just think for a while…
Price RM80,000 if we convert to US dollar X 3.2 (very generous) = $25000
Just google Mitsubishi USA.. for $25000 u can get Mitsubishi Eclipse just only $18,999…
Wow you all kena tipu kaw-kaw la wey… Vios Sport or added some more money for Jazz much reasonable price…Maybe Jazz abit but overall WORTHY!
How much it cost to buy a City and Vios in US? :)
USD 10k?
** Price RM80,000 if we convert to US dollar divided by 3.2 (very generous) = $25000
so what are you waiting for
go there and by one, live there, noone will stop you
Even with almost 100% parts from Mitsubishi, ‘pasang” will be from Proton and Lotus handling added is actually a bit scary since its not done in England,based on my previous car the Lotus handling had gave problems 3 times in only 2 years(noisy suspensions)..don’t have to mention other problems since I finally got rid of the car( sorry guys I’m much happier now)…Inspira is simply UNISPIRING!
Now, Lancer GT owners get to enjoy the lotus handling bits, at cheaper price.
For those who are still unhappy with proton, so be it. To me you are missing out on few of the better driver’s car in the market. Quality to the Malaysian masses is a power window which works perfectly and dashboard that does not rattle. fair enough. nevermind tractibility, agiltiy, planted cornering etc. which ultimately means safety derived from a sound chasis. VSC, EBD and other acronyms are conjured to feed the market and mask weaknesses of the chasis.
Anyone who can’t really handle ANY proton, question your own ability. Can you drive?
are u trying to tell your fellow malaysians that proton is superior in terms of handling compared to the japanese,italian,french and even a korean???
u must have been dreaming all this years,remember the defunct mitsubishi colt and soldiers on as the previous satria?the defunct galant eterna and lives on only in malaysia as perdana???the only rm100.000 luxury car in the market with no airbag,no ebd.why was that??becos allthey interested about is makin money from stupido like you.
handling of newer proton cars with LOTUS handling is no joke
it’s functioning and superior than most cars in its class
try it yourself
I love proton so far after 5 years from north to south…east to west drive proton never have a problem. Thank you proton. now thinking of inspira hehehehe…
sekarang ni boleh kata semua blog hangat dgn isu compare mengompare model insipa ni. sy rasa proton mmg pandai main harga.. sbb diaorg cuma tukar rim, tayar, spoiler dan strutbar dapat bagi harga bwh 100K, kalau pakai rim 18″, tayar yoko, spoiler lancer gt, dgn pasang strutbar dpn blakang mcm lancer maybe harga dah lebih RM100K. saya rasa proton memang bijak mangaburi mata org ramai. diorang tahu org malaysia ni akan convert, tukar nu, tukar ni, so diaorg bagi kete yang basic je. pandai2 la korang convert pasang evo bodykit, rim dan tukar logo. :)
Tp inspira 2.0 xleh nak compare dgn civic 2.0 (pesaing hebat) sebab byak perbezaan antara kedua2 model ni, civic punyai byk kelebihan , cthnya dari segi tayar (michelin), rim 17″, teknologi stereng (Electric power stereng), teknologi engin i-vtec (jimat minyak), kualiti interior, digital multiplex meter yang menarik, adjustable side mirror, side airbag, vehicle stability assist (vsa), side mirror turn light, lampu HID, hydrophilic door mirror dan 4 reverse sensors. last body lebih ringan. :)
kalau semua ni ada pada inspira, mahu harga dekat RM120-130K. tapi proton buat semua ni untuk rakyat malaysia. rakyat didahulukan, pencapaian diutamakan. :) Tapi rakyat perlulah berfikir dari segi interest bank dan second value inspira nanti.. tepuk data masing2 k. itu cuma pandangan saya. TQ
takat civic tu tak payah la nak compare
LOTUS r n h lagi best
superb!
maximus,so u r the smartest among the proton supporter huh?
have u heard of nvh?noise,vibration and harshness? try compare a proton and japanese make and u ll understand.why bmw have dsc,volvo with chasis control?proton is not lotus and can neva be one,lotus is taking proton for a ride,draining all tax payer money.its your money too. be thrifty k.huhuhuhuhu
haiya dino, still living in the past eh? i thought all dinosaurs already extinct?
you can try drive Persona, the handling is much better than the sampan Vios, and NVH level is also comparable to Vios.
proton is never aiming to be like lotus, lotus is for speed and high-performance conscious, while proton is producing cars for the masses.
volvo engineer grad from where?
proton wan from uitm….haih how to fight? ppl all build cars proton ppl main guli pandai la…
guys…car are created by human…get it? n the human behind proton are questionable their qualifications….wipe out these ppl…n proton will be gone for good…
whatever you say
wherever their engieers come from,
proton bulit many cars already
Second value selepas 1-2 tahun kegunaan, honda (civic) loss 10-12%, lancer loss 17-20%, proton model loss 20-25%. source from usecar dealer area K.L.
wonder would there be possible to convert it to FQ400 ? :P *dreaming*
bagi jalan utk hapuskan proton tak nak…haih korang ni…pastu cuma tau kutuk sana sini…
no wonder the pareto 20/80 law so damn right…u guys onli know how to talk…sad sad…
80% of ppl creates only 20% of the effect…
dont u think its all ur money being used to support the survival of proton?
dont u think that bcoz of proton, v r paying more for less? n compromise on our safety?
dont u think dat already berpuluh puluh ppl die in accident due to proton directly and indirectly?
guys, if wanna talk about car, do so by concurrently aim for the public to have access to good cars first, not sum shitty proton just because to feed its stupid lazy factory worker n also to feed its cronies.
u all have the numbers over here…use it wisely..excluding proton supporter.. where this ppl not supporting the car but the rezeki for their very own ppl…
i ad fed up of this bolehland where due to majority factors, proton can survive..thts y dun underestimate the power of moronic ppl in big numbers…
also dun ask me to leave this country…i have scores to settle…thus im not leaving…n im doing it MLM way…
If all would to think like you than we should have be enjoying cheap cars in bolehland
and guess this will only happen when the moron decide to source their revenue else where rather than import duties which this is the easiest and lazy way out..
Guess there are still frog under the well syndrome among the citizens here compromising
your safety and life for plotong
aku ingat nak book.. but i heard from a friend that the body was build here. only the engine parts was brought from japan. now i am a bit confused. when look back at the price of 2.0 model.. my head begin to puzzled whether to book or not.. hmmm
maybe zack was right about comparing it to the civic price..
Better hold dulu, keta baru, xtahu lagi ape problem. Inspira tu mcm tikus ujian skrg, sbb tu diaorg bg free service dan part 2thn. diaorg xpernah buat pun pada model2 sebelum ni. coz diaorg pun xtau ape2 problem lagi. benda nak cepat launch, mana sempat test. lagi pun warranty kereta diaorg mmg 2 thn / 50,000km. so xde beza pun, dlm tempoh warranty semua brg bleh tukar ganti. semua ni sekadar mengaburi mata je. dont be “smart guy to get it”, be “carefull guy before get it.” better tunggu selepas 1-2 tahun, tgk dan kaji komen2 org yang dah guna, mesti ada luahan dalam internet punya.. kalau ok, masa tu baru la beli. think first!!
Lagi pun ini salah satu promosi diaorg untuk model keluaran tahun 2010 je (dah hujung tahun, biasala promosi2 mcm ni, pengeluar lain pun ada buat gak) semua ni just cut & paste. that why kena book before 15 NOV ni coz kete akan dpt bulan 12… ape2 pun terpulang pada mr.tara coz yang nak beli tuan bknnya saya. sy just bagi pendapat.. TQ
mr.tara,….I would not influence you on which is better,well listening to what friends said is not enough, do your own survey/ research,take your time go showrooms,there”s so many models,study the specs,fuel cons,resale value..interest rates..etc..and don’t let the sales people decide because they are just after your money…
since proton existence,we have been deprived of a good cars with reasonable price,those days, Toyota corolla-a taxi in Thailand has become a entry luxury car in Malaysia,why was that? because the govt is protecting proton
and after 25 years of its formation,the best that they could do was the ssv- super slow bread van-exora.and now a new copycat for Malaysian ah beng.look at the spec.only twin airbags,no side curtain,and for persona,they couldnt even put the back seat right-so upright that a short trip to your in laws will make your passenger complain of a back pain.proton is a failure!!!!!take a u turn-copycat
exora is not that slow i tell you
next year will debut the turbo version summore
sure leave other mpvs far behind
go proton!!!
so whats goin to happen with the current exora,
thats also if the turbo version does materialise
see this is what i mean wasted the rakyats money again
and again whats next inspira mivec..
Wake up fellow malaysian your life is more precious than
plotong..
Better hold dulu la mr.tara, keta baru, xtahu lagi ape problem. Inspira tu mcm tikus ujian skrg, sbb tu diaorg bg free service dan part 2thn. diaorg xpernah buat pun pada model2 sebelum ni. coz diaorg pun xtau ape2 problem lagi. benda nak cepat launch, mana sempat test. lagi pun warranty kereta diaorg mmg 2 thn / 50,000km. so xde beza pun, dlm tempoh warranty semua brg bleh tukar ganti. semua ni sekadar mengaburi mata je. dont be “smart guy to get it”, be “carefull guy before get it.” better tunggu selepas 1-2 tahun, tgk dan kaji komen2 org yang dah guna, mesti ada luahan dalam internet punya.. kalau ok, masa tu baru la beli. think first!!
or they r so confident that the car will not bring big probs so they give 2 years of free service 0.o
waaa…so many angry people out there…poor P1 & P2…poor local assembler and vendors…
how to improve tarnish reputation…re-brand like Toyota did with Lexus…hehehe…
Thanks guys for ur positive comment.. thought of wait.
Actually.. the source is from r&d.. he never mentioned about the first 1000 cbu units as what the salesman told me. why need cbu if they can save the cost by selling ckd units since the development already started a few years.
My wife said matikan air je! Ntahla zack kalau nak tunggu 1 -2 tahun lg, silap² dah keluar T badge around that period. For ur info, the salesman only ask rm100 booking fees and offered me 3.8% interest rate including ewt. Amacam!
Hey guys… jgn lah gaduh2.. lets be realistic here.. we all know that the taxes of foreign cars is bloody ridiculous in malaysia.. seriously i know.. what proton is trying to do is to let people have a taste to have a car that at least looks like the real thing or feel like one.. i know that the inspira does lack in several things than the lancer.. that u can tell bcoz of the price and quality.. proton is more or less like honda and acura..
so mitsubishi is sorta like proton in malaysia.. it sounds stupid i know but that is the truth.. i have worked with many proton people.. corporate comm to branding.. they all say that the inspira is better than the proton but when i asked them a simple question.. is the seat of the inspira leather? they paused and said no,.. its half and half.. pvc and leather.. hmmm that shows why the price is cheaper and obviously it is locally assembled.. anyway.. if someone could afford to pay rm120k for a lancer then go ahead… u know better.. but for the rest who is only willing to spend rm80K for a lancer look a like then what can we do about it.? right? im proud of being a malaysian and i know the cars that we produce is pretty bad in quality, but we just have to make do of what we are capabale of.. look at it this way.. count the numbers or protons and peroduas OTR.. at least these 2 companies are helping our rakyat to afford this mode of transportation.. :) (that is my 2 cents worth) cheers!
Seriously so,the national automotive policy doesn’t help much,we lose out to Indonesia and Thailand,they has become the Detroit of the east.we have better political stability,better infrastructure,yet Volkswagen have chosen Indonesia as a base to produce their cars for the Asian market,and Honda with its largest and most advance factory outside japan,dont mention Toyota and ford,they produces cars for Asian market.and where are we????why must we be lagged behind?is it worth for us to protect proton and be such a laggard to our fellow Asian countries??back in the 80s,my father can still afford a brand new Volvo.after proton was born,average Malaysian cant even afford a corrola.
stop being complacent,stop being blinded with false patriotism.proton shouldn’t be in the market in the 1st place!!!!!!
Absolutely right and we have suffer enough with this grind..
let the market forces determines where proton stands and if they
can compete by standing own thier own by all means go ahead and if fail
than the best solutions is to open the auto sector market…
Stop asking us to change our lifestyle and back to basic all changes starts with me
and if this keeps on like that you don’t change us we will change you…
I for one rejects the 100 storey mega tower put the money into curbing poverty..
if i have the money i would definitely buy this car or any car there is. to hell with what others are thinking. its your money, you earn it, you drive it and go places with your family in it. the joy of having a car is what matters. peope tend to lose that now since cars are so much easier to get nowadays.
salam semua:,
ada baik dan buruknya,
baik- yang dok minat lencer evo x dapat inspira depa convert jadi evo x.
buruknya- yang lani dok pakai lancer original mesti berbulu,depa beli kereta harga100k ke atas,tetiba ja geng2 inspira convert jadi mcm kereta depa.dah jadi semua sama….berbulu la depa,hilang originaliti…,kan rakyat malaysia pandai tukar menukar
waja jadi evo9
wira jadi evo3
kancil jadi mira
myvi jadi passo
yang terbaru inspira (ubah logo je)terus jadi lancer.
I don’t trust Proton anymore as i just bought Proton Persona Medium Line has so many problems just like a 2nd-hand car. Too disappointed!! Both rear windows were arising “crick crack” sound when i opened them, Front case box & air-con were arising sound when i on the engine or when the car was running, Brake arising sound when i stopping the car, Hand brake was not tight enough & there was one time the radio suddenly jammed & i couldn’t turn it off at all & had to took out the battery just to restarted the radio. All these really made me mad & i almost throw it into a drain!!!!
So my advice is: Proton, pls stop releasing new model if u cannot show any improvement to ur previous models!!!
joey, i think u just make a havoc here. i also own proton persona medium line with auto transmission. I’m really happy with this car. no problem at all. In my opinion as proton persona owner, proton persona is very stable and comfort in high speed. when i drive to kl from jb to meet my fiance, it’s took about 2 and 1/2 hour only with average speed 140-160km/h. i try to drive 110 km/h, it’s very slow and make me want to sleep. huhu. regarding your complain, sometime i also hear some noise from brake, but i think its normal. i don’t believe u took out the battery just to off the radio, just take out your key and radio will off! i think you just complain that really small matter.
p/s: you can speed at plus highway but please be aware where speed trap is located. have a nice day.
lots of my friend also using the persona n i never heard them complaining.. persona is a good car..
yeah. i agree with u.
INSPIRA….woohooo…smart move by PROTON! economically speaking, it is a smart move done by PROTON by capturing the segment of the market; those who are just garaduated from uni and want to buy their dream car!!!!–EVO…sape tanak pakai evo aku habaq hang? well done. well done.
my uncle bought an exora,the handling was ok,but the engine sounds like a fishing boat,the interior lamp blown 3 times for the 1st 10 months of ownership, the rear aircond
blower rosak times,leaving his bambinos sweating in the afternoon,it took 2 months for the said part to arrived.the headlamp masuk air after he send it to a car wash.and the car was only 10 months old.it was slow,sluggish and with a very bad drinking habit.he spend rm150.00 for a 450km of town driving and mind u,he is using ron 97,so before we jump the inspira bandwagon. think twice,dont be penny wise pound foolish like my uncle.
Why need to use ron 97 if can use ron 95. full tank exora can go around to 450 and 500km on town, and it is impossible to use rm 150 per tank lol. you can go to eocm.com.my if u dont believe me. and never sound like fishing boat bro. it is the sound of the aircond compressor. have u ever drive pug, renault or even beemer???how does the engine sound?
blower rosak, never heard before, if thermo amp, yes, but it is available over the counter.
bout headlamp, u can claim warranty for it, they will change the new one for free. yup, its the vendors fault on the sealing, but not all are effected, u can go and check in eocm.com.my if u want to know the details. so dont make up story k.
Malaysia kebanggaanku…..
search Proton Exora on facebook.. lot of infos u can get on exora! i like!
aiya guys…chevy is the best la,i drive my chevy optra 1.8 even at 180m/ph still stable on the road wooo….
kepada azlanevo….
saya juga alami pengalaman spt yg ayah awk lalui…
persona yg saya pkai baru 35k mileage tp mcm2 dh bunyi….
well done Proton for another imitate product. This is so called a national car that is proudly designed by Malaysian.
Mitsubishi is willing to kill its own market in Malaysia knowing that they cant do much here in this country, pity all Mitsubishi buyer ! We will think you modify your Protuk to Lancer as you will see plenty of Poruk Lancer on the road soon
well done Proton for another imitate product. This is so called a national car that is proudly designed by Malaysian.
Mitsubishi is willing to kill its own market in Malaysia knowing that they cant do much here in this country, pity all Mitsubishi buyer ! We will think you modify your Protuk to Lancer as you will see plenty of Poruk Lancer on the road soon
Dear Paul,
Which model is giving better fuel consumption? 1.8A or 2.0A?
Civic 1.7 RS- are u japanese or malaysian????? I’m very proud with malaysian car….coz i’m real malaysian…..japan develop their car techology before world war 2 begin…..before u born…so don’t compare la….but we still…very good in car technology…just for 30 year… we develop very fast.
Hrm, well i’m wondering whye all these people keep complaining and bashing proton just becoz of minor problem such as power window problems and central locking.
FYI, i’m currently driving a BMW E90 and having satria neo CPS as my 2nd car. As far as i concern, the only proton’s car problem is the door is hardly to close shut properly and sometimes annoying me coz need to close the door 2-3 times. To fix it, just cost me around 100 ringgit. And the other problems of proton i believe just a problem which cost less than a thousands.
On the other hand, my E90 gives me total headache because just after 6 month of usage, the engine warning shows up and after inspection, air leaking because of the servo cap and cost me RM 1.2 k just for servo cap and another 150 just to reset the computer. The mechanics at the workshop shows me some of the BMW with the similar problem.. My fren who drives E46 also face the same problem as mine.
After that, i’ve faced another problem which oilsome tank need to be replaced. valvetronic problem, which also a normal problem for a bmw, which cost me around another 5k.. Many of my frens who drove bmw includes 5 series also fac the same.
So the conclusion is,maybe Proton has millions on the road compared to BMW, thats why we can hear so many people are complaining here and there but maybe many of proton’s bashers do not experience what other’s car owner felt and when it happens, u will appreciate proton better.. =)
Just share though…~
Proton achievement after 25 years????? a bread van for cotton heads and a copycat!!!!!!!
shame on u,shame on all the supporters.
this is what i think. pls put aside patriotism etc for a minute. try to be open for a while. put aside all variables like finishing and design. compare it vis-a-vis. to be fair i’m commenting on both local and local assembled cars.
one issue is cloning itself. a cloning company has no passion for cars but only out to make money. remember? a real car maker takes pride in producing a car. gives opportunity for locals to show their talent and expertise. this exposure is invaluable to expand the industry.
on the marketing side, an average consumers gives priority on price. sure, ringgit per piece, it is cheaper. BUT, is it value for money? provided ALL specs and materials used are equal, clones are worthy car. but is it?
now, here comes another issue of cloning it right. having the opportunity to own 27 cars in the past 20 years with sometimes as many as 4 cars (and 3 bikes) at one time (i love machines) makes me view the issue from a different perspective. out of the 27, all are/were japs while 3 local. so what’s the difference? materials and metallurgy. i.e the strength and durability of parts. are the plastics in a local/ local assembled car the same quality with an imported one? are the chasis and body of the same quality? i have observed that imported cars almost 20 years old having excellent durability of the plastic parts like dashboard and finishing with no sign of crack, discolor, flex or fade. can you say the same for 10 year old local car / local assembled? what about the connectors and wiring? will you find having to add relays for your weakening starter just because they used small wires to save cost. will the body rust for no apparent reason? if it does, will you think the strength of material used is the same. no matter how many original maker sticker you pasted on the car, no matter how much you converted the seats, dash, trimmings ets. will the chasis be as strong as the real thing or you have to add struts to get a decent ride? is it as safe to drive at top speed as the real thing? will the body flex UNlike the real thing? one local car even used plastic screws for their rear view mirror. broke down on me once. how much can you really save on plastic screws? how can an auto company be so stingy?
so, if i’m to clone a car, cutting cost by cheaper and less quality parts to sell it at a cheaper price, will you say its the same car with cheaper price? or is it a lesser car at a cheaper price. do you still think its equal to X-brand at cheaper price? or its a scaled down to match the price. BUT, the original version is expensive due to taxes. without taxes the price IS almost like the rebadged scaled-down version. plus, remember they spent RM700mil on R&D.
if you want to clone cars, do it right. after all you already saved RM700mil on R&D. don’t tell me you still need to save more on cheaper parts. vendors are often blamed. don’t these auto makers have their own standards to adhere to? do the vendors have to follow auto-maker standards or its the other way round? can’t auto-makers reject non-conforming vendors?
so, do you still think its value for money? no conversion in the world can make a copied clone equal to the original unless the auto-makers are willing to buck up. otherwise, you pay peanuts you get monkeys. go figure.
this is what i think. pls put aside patriotism etc for a minute. try to be open for a while. put aside all variables like finishing and design. compare it vis-a-vis. to be fair i’m commenting on both local and local assembled cars.
one issue is cloning itself. a cloning company has no passion for cars but only out to make money. remember? a real car maker takes pride in producing a car. gives opportunity for locals to show their talent and expertise. this exposure is invaluable to expand the industry.
on the marketing side, an average consumers gives priority on price. sure, ringgit per piece, it is cheaper. BUT, is it value for money? provided ALL specs and materials used are equal, clones are worthy car. but is it?
now, here comes another issue of cloning it right. having the opportunity to own 27 cars in the past 20 years with sometimes as many as 4 cars (and 3 bikes) at one time (i love machines) makes me view the issue from a different perspective. out of the 27, all are/were japs while 3 local. so what’s the difference? materials and metallurgy. i.e the strength and durability of parts. are the plastics in a local/ local assembled car the same quality with an imported one? are the chasis and body of the same quality? i have observed that imported cars almost 20 years old having excellent durability of the plastic parts like dashboard and finishing with no sign of crack, discolor, flex or fade. can you say the same for 10 year old local car / local assembled? what about the connectors and wiring? will you find having to add relays for your weakening starter just because they used small wires to save cost. will the body rust for no apparent reason? if it does, will you think the strength of material used is the same. no matter how many original maker sticker you pasted on the car, no matter how much you converted the seats, dash, trimmings ets. will the chasis be as strong as the real thing or you have to add struts to get a decent ride? is it as safe to drive at top speed as the real thing? will the body flex UNlike the real thing? one local car even used plastic screws for their rear view mirror. broke down on me once. how much can you really save on plastic screws? how can an auto company be so stingy?
so, if i’m to clone a car, cutting cost by cheaper and less quality parts to sell it at a cheaper price, will you say its the same car with cheaper price? or is it a lesser car at a cheaper price. do you still think its equal to X-brand at cheaper price? or its a scaled down to match the price. BUT, the original version is expensive due to taxes. without taxes the price IS almost like the rebadged scaled-down version. plus, remember they spent RM700mil on R&D.
if you want to clone cars, do it right. after all you already saved RM700mil on R&D. don’t tell me you still need to save more on cheaper parts. vendors are often blamed. don’t these auto makers have their own standards to adhere to? do the vendors have to follow auto-maker standards or its the other way round? can’t auto-makers reject non-conforming vendors?
so, do you still think its value for money? no conversion in the world can make a copied clone equal to the original unless the auto-makers are willing to buck up. otherwise, you pay peanuts you get monkeys. go figure.
and the proton price is not that much cheaper with the 2.0……. add in the goodies Proton has left out and they are the same price…… So SO SSOOOO Disappointing
IMHO there is nothing wrong with proton doing this because they want to make money and not because of the so-called passion in car making. in fact, this is the most perfect sense.
everybody is in the business because they want to make money. Toyota is there more to make money rather than to fulfill their passion in automotive engineering. Boeing is in the business because they want to make money and aircraft manufacturing is just their way of making money.
and since Proton is a public-fund-government-backed company whose existence creates huge car components business and employment for local Malaysians then they better make money and stay in business – hence Inspira IS the right move!
If Mr.Toyoda put his passion in cars on top of money making strategy, there won’t even be any Toyota on the road today. Same goes to Hyundai, KIA, and any other brands the bashers are championing.
if you want Proton’s passion so badly then look into their core models like persona and saga where money making and passion come side by side. in order to keep this “passion” models going and company running, non-core models project like Inspira are better-off cloned (money-making strategy) rather than full R&D from scratch.
paragon,
i take it you were referring to my posting regarding the passion in car-making but you have taken my word out of context. if you read my comments correctly, it’s not that i’m against making money by cloning. just that do it right with equal quality as the original.
As for your assumption of toyota’s ‘money making’ strategy’, Shotaro Kamiya, Toyota Motor Sales first president strategy is ‘Customers come first; then the dealers; and lastly, the maker’.
From toyota:
Kamiya reaffirmed Toyota’s commitment to the customer and to the dealer, with a pledge, which remains true today. — “The priority in receiving benefits from automobile sales should be in the order of the customer, then the car dealer, and, lastly, the maker. This attitude is the best approach in winning the trust of customers and dealers and ultimately brings growth to the manufacturer.”
lastly, i’m not bashing any entity. especially local or CKD cars for that matter. just giving a piece of my mind for them to clean up their acts…
look at the seat,skoda and vw,the share technology,floor pan and engines,but still make a credible car,look at hyundai,the re using mitsubishi gdi engine for american market in their sonatas.and what is wrong with us????? cheapskate,did we dare to include side curtains air bag?no traction control?????proton is trying its old trick on stupidos again hahahahahaha.lancer inspira minus the goodies huhuhuhu
ah…the brunt of a person who I assume bought cars with longest list of acronyms printed on the sale brouchers. the longer the better. SUBARU IMPREZZA STI SPEC-C comes to mind. that’s a mouthful. subaru diehard don’t get upset with me….hehehe
talk about subaru, with it’s symmetrical AWD layout, boxer engines, having to achieve low C of G. good engineering approach. but sadly the market demands acronyms and quotes of NVH values, dedicated airbags for the knees and electronic aids to help steer the car away from the tree that is coming up way to fast. goodies say some. nothing more than gadgets to me.
over 1,200 comments here and the bashers are having field day. copycat lah, cloning lah no traction control la. as to the person who spoke of traction control, can you articulate what is traction in the 1st place?
I for one am glad that Proton did what it did, to me could have been any platform. not a big fan of the current lancer in particular so does not bother me just as long as it will be a hoot to drive and subsequently run circles around the likes of other brands which have been countlessly mentioned in this forum.
BUT, will be interesting to see how does it fare againts the Lancer GT..I mean the 1.8(M) againts the GT. how will it end?
Proton has seriously disappointed me with this move…… I do not and have not owned a proton but was really looking forward to the day that I could proudly buy and own one and I thought that day was coming….. until this car!!! The Neo is sexy.. if I did not have two kids to fit in it i would buy one…… but despite owning Lotus, which is doing awesome now, Proton continues to miss the mark in my opinion. Other than the Neo, nothing else they have produced is quite right in design, many are close…. but not quite, quality is always an issue and power is always LOW with actually poor fuel economy for the power ratings…… and this move in just re shaping an existing model from another company upsets me…. I would rather the car be ugly….or uglier and be designed here… I would have respected Proton so much more for just trying. If Proton could quit getting so flustered by what the world is saying and focus on what they are meant to do…which is make good cars at reasonable prices for Malaysians and potentially some day for the world… we might get another good car from them…..someday….. but what I was hoping was signs of the future (Neo) is now looking more and more like a fluke….. come on Proton….. PLEAE GIVE ME A REASON TO BUY ONE OF YOUR CARS…… i DO REALLY WANT TO
when the launched the waja-so much huha stating that proton is becoming a full fledged asian automaker,by saving millions in not paying for royalty to mitsubishi,well the secret came out that iy was based on the same floor pan of the unloved mitsubishi carisma.the then ceo told us its the great achievement by proton.AND NOW THE PRESENT CEO IS TELLING US THE OPPOSITE.THAT THEY RE SAVING MILLIONS BY CLONING THE OUTGOING LANCER!!!!!!WHO ARE THEY TRYING TO FOOLS?maximus,en mat and the other silly supporter of this-mediocre brand.RM 95.000,HUHUHUHU,GET A CIVIC LA
I booked an inspira on the Oct 14. That day all I saw was the front bumper. I was told that on Nov 10, I could test the car and then decide if I want the 1.8 or 2.0 litre. On Oct 15, the new budget came out and cbu hybrid going to be tax free next year! My SA called me on Oct 29 and said that customers who booked the car will get the car by Nov 10! How to confirm which model I want without even looking or test driving it? I like the manual but am thinking of the cvt 2.0 with paddle shifts. I dont even know how the inside looks like…. Worst of all, loyal buyers like us will be given a car that has less than 2 months on the road before it becomes a year older….
Well, I had no choice but gave up my booking and try again when the car is officially launched and available for test drive.
its just buying the fake levis jeans!!!!!! your bum will itch the whole time lol
i want to test drive this inspira! can’t wait!
INSPIRA = INStant PIRAcy?
hows that?!
more like PIIIIIIRAH!
how is that then?!
its end of life model cycle for lancer.and rest easy,it will soldiers on as inspira,u know cat have 9 lives so does proton the copycat.scavenging the garbage bins of mitsubishi.who would buy this leftovers huh??? who else,other than maximus the intelligent man and the che mat the cerdik man,i bet u two is working in tanjung malim huhuhuhu.dont be caught dead driving this copycat!!!!
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hi mr…i nak tau inspira ade usb port x?
inspira ade usb port x?
i dont mind with proton, im a proud owner of blm, if something wrong, i will send it to service centre, and they will attend u..no harm man..this is life man, u hate it or u like it, nothing u can do..
but the retardeness of all, is the booking, without given a test drive or what ever,with half body appearence they r open for booking, but MALAYSIAN.. i dont now why…pls stop this. make sure u see the car then booking..dont be stupid. u all will make this over n over when launching a new proton..they will never stop doing this if u support..i want to buy this car but after seing the car..pls stop this stupid madness guy…
After 25yrs Proton stil dong re-branding…. R&D facilities wasted for all these years. SAD :(
you must know the meaning of re-branding first…haha…