We are now back from the Proton Inspira launch this morning at Proton’s Centre of Excellence and are ready to share with you what we have digested (the info, not the lunch). Here it goes…..
At a glance, there’s almost zero difference between the Inspira and Lancer save for Proton’s unique front end design, which is of a V-shape as opposed to Mitsubishi’s trademark trapezoidal “jet fighter” grille. Besides the obvious fact that the change is needed to differentiate the cars, Proton deliberately wanted to move away from the Lancer “too aggressive” look, according to the engineers.
At the rear, you’ll find 2.0 P or 1.8 E to mark the variants, the latter available in both manual and CVT versions. As mentioned in our preview drive, P stands for Premium and E stands for Executive in Proton’s new naming scheme, P being the higher spec. There’s a chrome strip at the bottom edge of the boot, like on the Lancer EX. The Proton’s bumper is unique as it has a black painted “diffuser style” design, as opposed to the straightforward item on the Lancer. The reflectors sit within the black area.
Like the Lancer EX, the Inspira wears 16-inch wheels with 205/60 rubber. With the Proton, you get unique Continental Comfort Contact CC5 tyres with compounds that were specifically developed for the car. The rim design looks much better without the black disguise tape on the pre-production cars. Suspension tuning also differs from the Lancer, as detailed in two rounds of preview tests we did. Click here and here to read them.
Inside, the differences are minimal. The three-spoke steering design has a Proton badge of course, and the instruments look the same. However, we just noticed that the “left speedo, right tacho” layout of the Lancer has been reversed for the Inspira, which has its rev meter on the left side. The multi-info screen is the orange one as per the Lancer sedan, not the full colour version on the Lancer Sportback. The wood trim in the P spec Inspiras are dark brown coloured (Lancer EX has greyish wood) while the 1.8 E gets a matte silver trim that’s nice to touch. All else is identical to these eyes, including the grade of plastics.
The 4B10 1.8 litre pot found on the two Executive variants offers 140 hp at 6,000rpm and 177 Nm at 4,250rpm, while the 4B11 2.0 litre block in the Premium has 150 hp and 197 Nm at the same rpm as above. Performance-wise, the 1.8 manual has a claimed top speed of 202 kph and a 0-100 kph sprint time of 10.0 secs, while that of the 1.8 CVT is 191 kph and 11.4 secs. As for the 2.0 Premium, it gets to 198 kph and does the century sprint in 10.5 secs. As for kerb weight, the manual rolls in at 1,300 kg, while the 1.8 CVT and 2.0 P are 1,325 kg and 1,335 kg respectively.
Four colours are available for the Inspira, and these are Plum Red, Solid White, Genetic Silver and Tranquility Black. In terms of specifications and equipment levels, the Inspira gets a fair bit of kit, though the 2.0 Premium version does naturally get more in the way of added gear.
Nonetheless, all three variants come with dual SRS airbags, leather steering wheel, front pre-tensioner seatbelts, ABS with EBD, immobiliser and alarm system, central door locking, Isofix point, reverse sensor, solar and security tinted film and steering wheel-mounted audio controls.
Other items on the features list across the board are trunk lid remote release, front fog lamps, welcome home light system, driver’s side anti-trap/auto up-down power window, height adjustable driver’s seat and a MP3/Bluetooth-enabled CD player audio system with Arkamys 3D DSP.
As befits its Premium suffix, the Inspira 2.0 gets a number of differentiation points and features compared to the two 1.8 Executive models, and these are:
- Cruise control (with steering wheel-mounted switches)
- Column-mounted paddle shift controls
- Automatic climate control
- Auto headlamp and rain sensors.
- Body kit and rear spoiler.
- Leather seats and door trim finishing (the 1.8 versions are in fabric)
- A GPS navigation system.
Peninsular Malaysia Prices
- Proton Inspira 1.8 M/T – RM78,999
- Proton Inspira 1.8 CVT – RM84,999
- Proton Inspira 2.0 CVT – RM91,999
East Malaysia Prices
- Proton Inspira 1.8 M/T – RM80,999
- Proton Inspira 1.8 CVT – RM86,999
- Proton Inspira 2.0 CVT – RM93,999
Langkawi Prices
- Proton Inspira 1.8 M/T – RM71,999
- Proton Inspira 1.8 CVT – RM75,999
- Proton Inspira 2.0 CVT – RM82,999
There are some videos as well as live and promo galleries available after the jump.
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w00t! live updates! (i hope you brought something to entertain yourself with, Paul, during those long speeches about new management and quality).
mitsubishi must be happy to do business with orang malaySIA la. hahahahahah
after 25 years, still they wanna pay royalty.
whahahahahahahah, pandai nya. hahahaha. if in K/C country, ppl already copy kao kao, and improve. Here, they cannot copy and improve. they copy, and make it worse, like proton saga .
Wise & smart guy……straight to the point and see the clear picture….unfortunately no many people like that…they still think they are good…..proton is slowly ‘invaded’ and ‘possessed’ by Mitsubishi. You are the man. :)
Dr M must know the consequences….but he can’t do anything
if they help mitsu make cars, rakyat ambik gaji= macam intel, sony.
if they open proton, they give royalty to mitsu for free. wahhahahaahahaha.
So called R&D + High Tech Machine = duit masuk longkang!!!!
They sell expensive car to rakyat + Gaji besar for director + Royalti to Mitsubishi = Inspira (Kereta buatan malaysia, smart guys get it!! wahahahahaahaha )
mitsu laughing :” i tot they open factory to fight with me, mana tau, they open factory, and buy all expensive equipment from me, and then pay me royalti some more, mmg smart guy la ni”
What benefit they get?? oh, the thunder cat logo, dan siok sendiri la tu, kereta buatan sendiri ( low quality la tu )
i support ur comment!!
I 2nd to ur comment !!!!!!! Cheap interior !!! Yuk !!!!!!!!!!!!
Proton should CLOSE. What is the point of having a National Car if we have to pay more expensive than other countries. Politicans prefer to compare our fuel price to other but why they dont do to the National Car?? Without Proton, the RAKYAT will have better oppurtunity to own more quality car such as Toyota, Honda, Nissan bla bla at very cheaper and affordable price. What is your proud of being the only country to subsidize the national car??? Where is the Utamakan Rakyat???
u r not suitable commented like what u said. w/out proton many country dont know malaysia country. bcoz of proton every one can drive this is utamakan rakyat.
Are these the OPENING comment I should read in this beloved Paul’s site after just arrive from Australia 1 hour ago?
I don’t need these kinda comments.
Personally I think THESE kinda comments come from:
1. You who just can’t afford to pay monthly instalment to get even one 1.8M/T… especially YOU ash-menon & tongkat & ori_saga1, not forgetting artworkz, man-u, Romero… you speak out of frustration? Work harder.
2. You who just how to know to complaint & complaint & complaint to others, other people always wrong, just you are right.
3. You who don’t understand how the WORLD works. Always claiming cars in Msia expensive, do some googling, open your eyes. Do comparison then you’ll know why.
U people complaining is one of yr daily diet….Dont say tis not right ….not nice…Since I am also a MALAYSIAN what ever any product so called MALAYSIAN…Most of the people of MALAYSIA start BARKING. Malaysia punya tak ori SELVATO FERAGAMO BAGUS….CELL PHONE FRM EUROPe BAGUS. Eh u complainant keep your mouth shutttt. Do u know MALAYSIA is the best country u nak DUIT GOMEN BAGI. Tapi u kaki enjoy no money to buy even a smallest car…SET YOUR GOALS N WORK HARD. Then only u can acquire a your dream car…( in yr dreams huhuhu )
mitshu: happy that got ppl collect their obsoleted machine and tahan their spare parts for their Mits Lancer, so that they can create new model. without worrying previous customers. good idea…somemore need to pay royalty tim…
deep…y Malaysia always like to collect ppl’s shits keh??? very not understand y…
you don’t understand car industry man, to make profit, each car has to sell millions of units. if you design each car from scratch, the cost of setting up the molds to produce each of the parts is enormous and will bankrupt the company. it is exactly what the american and european car-makers did, while the japanese car makers overtook them. now go check how many models of cars VW has then check how many different kinds of platforms they have?
power of lancer + lotus platform.. at 90k? seems like a good deal to me
aiyo,kerja senang saja ambil moulding dari Mitsubishi,put a price tag n sell like hot cakes.smart guy mitsui japan lagi smarter Proton.Model ASX coming soon.sure heboh one.
Invade and possessed? Seriously?
Little that you knew, Mitsu has been whoring the Lancer GS platform all this while. And the list includes: Mitsubishi Outlander, Chrysler Sebring, Dodge Caliber, Jeep Compass, Jeep Patriot, Dodge Avenger, Dodge Journey, Citroën C-Crosser, and Peugeot 4007.
All proton do is taking the opportunity, and turn it into a sound business decision.
WELL..MITSU IS NOT GOOD AS WAT YOU THINK..IT IS AMONG THE WORST BRAND IN JAPAN ESPECIALLY IN QUALITY..U CAN KNOCK THE DOOR OF THIS INSPIRA AND SURELY U CAN FEEL IT IS NOT GUD AS WAT U THINK RIGHT NOW..BUT FOR 79K, IT IS NOT BAD..PPL WHO LOVE MITSU WILL BUY IT..U GOT MONEY, U BUY, IF U DOUBT, WAIT FOR NEXT GEN LANCER..IF U GOT TOO MUCH MONEY, WAIT HONDA CIVIC 2011/12..IF U DONT HAVE MONEY, BUY SAGA..THATS ALL..
the best thing is – proton claimed to have started work with mitsubishi since 2007. dont they realise mitsubishi began ths project for this Lancer 3-4 years before it was launched in 2007? copycat is a copycat.
not so clever a comment, i guess.
Arthur,
agree with u.. these bashers always talk rubbish..complain this and that..u pay cheap, u get low quality product..pay more get better quality product..if proton make a good quality car, then sell it same price with BMW, basher complain.. who want to buy local car that expensive””…when sell cheap..complain again..copylah..low quality lah..invadelah…power window lah..i believe,proton can make a better quality car as good as other top car maker..but are they willing to pay the price???..
I am totally agreed with you. I am fully satisfied with my proton car, no problem at all with the power window or whatsoever.
If proton can make a better quality car with a good sales & service performance…..I will buy it.
The price is not cheap at all friend. They jus raise up the price of other foreign car to make Inspira or Proton looks cheap. Friend get out of Malaysia sometime to see the world.
The idea of having a national car is to ensure its affordable for everyone. Why on earth should we have to “pay more” for a “higher quality” car??
You mean to say that after 25 years of having everything served up to them on silver, nay, a gold platter, Proton can only do so much??
Enough on “Proton does not have this”, “Proton does not have that”. They’ve had enough opportunities and they have now outlived their initial purpose and morphed into an obstacle which prevents us from spending our very hard earned money on far superior cars thanks to the protectionism afforded to them.
I would symphatise if Proton was couple of year old but 25 years old?? Come on man! As long as people keep making excuses for them and accepting Proton’s lame excuses, we will continue to get substandard products at superior prices.
I own a 5 year old Proton Satria bought brand new – no breakdowns in 5 years, it starts, it goes but isn’t that what its supposed to do?? Isn’t that what I paid my very hard earned money for? If that’s the only criteria by which Proton must succeed, then no wonder it can’t get its act together.
Based on the most of Proton’s supporters, a couple of cars with no power window issues is reason enough to jubilate and declare that Proton has indeed exceeded expectations. Expecting more like interiors that don’t rattle after 1 yr, good quality fittings, good after sales and service is to be frowned upon…..
I do not agree with you topaz as i think with the amount of money that we pay for Proton Persona or other proton brand the quality must be there. As if other countries are selling cars cheaper than malaysia i believe our price could be lower i term of the lousy quality that we are given. but paying at that price proton selling i demand for a much better quality.
My proton iswara was stolen 2 years ago, before it was stolen when i go to authorised service centre to repair, they let their supplier in and talk to us customer and try to convince us customer to change parts, like this thing would help to save petrol bla bla bla. I dunno whether they still are doing this to their customer but really bad as they also helping these supplier to cheat their customer. When i decline their mechanic also join the conversation.
That is the reason if i have money i would not want to buy mitsubitshi also cause they are serviced by proton service centres as well.
if Proton were to made a good car, they would hv exported to other country.
sadly still juara kampung
your money, your call. If people want to buy Proton.. so let them buy.. don’t kacau people right. If you are so smart … go and build your own car..
Using the tax payer money to do an R&D for copy and paste technology for the last 25 years. For a business man, they so called it a win win deal. In actual fact, Lancer is not a sellable car. hence, two losers combined and worked together to produce the copy and paste car (proudly known as local made car) to inspire the nation.
bmw sell expensive in msia becoz of the tax…why>? becoz of proton..why? becoz the gov wants to protect their baby car…why?becoz if bmw is cheaper then many ppl will buy bmw n proton will die!
We still have narrow minded people here who asking are we going to pay for higher price if Proton produce a better quality car with no power windows faulty….etc Those junk kid still think that our national car is cheap so they deserve to produce a car with low quality.
Their mind is simple, more expensive = beter quality. They have never thaught of producing a quality car with lower cost of investment. I guess thats why these people and Proton never improve.
No MoFat, we have alot more narrow-minded people who always think that imported products are always better. that’s why they enjoyed our hospitalities here so much, because we treat them like a king.
toyota sold Prius in US, Japan & UK for RM70,000 only. why after 10% sales tax the price jumped to RM140,000? now, praise and bow to your king Toyota as much as you like, i don’t care.
Expensive doesn’t mean good. If proton can produce 100% quality car as per mitsubishi and selling at lower price why not? Why we want let other country to making our money instead we can do it?????
Proton must appreciate and take good use of this opportunity. If they are selling at low price with lower quality and this will become joke later on.
lancer in labuan is direct import from japan. the car quality is much better then proton and the car include the panel audio and DVD. the price is about 85k.
Who want to purchase proton with the similar price and low spec
sorry guys, i’m not understand why proton didn’t make a sporty version..they can make more money and lift abit p1 brand..as what Suzuki (swift), Latio (hatchback sport) Mazda, vios with TRD..who know p1 can deal with TRD and put in the Inspira, put 17/18 inch sport rim, higher spoiler, put carbon fiber a bit, brembo brake, evo seat..then sell it 90k for 1.8 manual..sure more ppl interest..cos better than trd..haha..then maybe this can beat Lancer GT in term of quality & performance…HAHAHAHaaaa
later on,,, Inspira R3 perhaps..
Wait la.. Proton will make it soon.. Always like that.. BTW.. the price is rm2000 cheaper than expected.. nice…
Cakap pandai lar korang nak itu ini…tau pasal keta jar..nak buat keta kena ada bahan..mana bahan2 tu..korang tau besi kat dunia seluruh negara berebut2 nakkan bijih besi…bukan setakat keta, bangguna , kapal semua..Company aku booking 3 kilang besi kat china dan lelain..satu punya kilang hasil besi buat bebrang kami..itu baru cerita bahan…cerita formula ketahanan nak jadikan enjin tahan panas, tak retak n pecah semua.. mana engjin Proton BOT sekejap pecah..ape beza kuality engjin VTEC Merah n hitam…itu formula ketahanan besi…Apa company pun takkan jual formula tu, lain ko leh tiru lar…
Dullu org ckp tin milo first Saga kuar…Bro keta Saga 1st model tu masih jalan tau atas jalan raya kita..25 thn kira ok lar ketahanan body n engin dia…Gen2 aku leh lari 200km/j ok lar gitu..biarlar pick up lambat skit..penting laju dah lar…bg kami org malaysia, biar kualiti rendah dari org lain, janji duit kami bg kaya company malaysia..kalu korang nak puaskan nafsu ko n kaya sgt, beli keta org luar…org cadang nak buat kapal terbang semua camna..rakyat sendiri tak support…ko ingt tak da enginner ka dalam dunia ni leh reka keta 1 liter = 100mile…semua price fixing dah antara pengeluar keta semua…minyak semua bisnes maaa..napa keta electric tak cormercilize lg…bisnes maaa…
I think most of ppl buying inspira thinking the same thing…buy for 79k, modify to look like evo x, and for sure the thundercat logo have to go. CHEAPSKATE!!!
HAha beat Lancer, go far far away la Inspira ….. ha ha ha
Honestly, Proton part is very lousy in the quality department. I have a Proton Satria Neo and it has been a hell of a mess. It cost around B$22,000 and I thought it was a good investment (cheap parts and all that). But to my surprise, after 3 years driving this car; major problem broke out. 3 years!! I always have a good maintained service record but the problem was just ridiculous.
Fuel-pump failure, wiring problem, electronic parts burn out, overheating without no apparent reason, bumper out of place, steering problem and seatbelt malfunction. It maybe cheap in parts but when you invest almost every month in fixing the car; it turn out to be a very bad investment. A very very bad investment.
I used to love this car. It is my first car but it turn to be one hell of a disaster. Now I really hated it for the problem and all that.
Hmm.The lowest version at the moment is Exec 1.8 which means a Base version could be out by next year if the sales is not doing too well.Just like the Exora when it was first launch , the offering models were M-line and H-line but after a year,the base line was introduce. There’s a high chance that the Base line for this Inspira will be out by next year. Do you think so?
do some revision on the way u drove the car…
Even M,B or V cars also got problems. Sometime we buy the car have to depend on luck also. Previously i am driving proton iswara for 7 years and there is totally no problem but only the engine with minor oil leaking (expected due to life time and over use).
Right now i am using N car and it always give me a problems. Less than 1 year, i had change 4 bulbs (head light) and it is not cheap (healogan bulb). Further more, my braking system also have problem till now still can not resolve. It cause me high maintainance cost. Only the thing is i feel more comfortable to drive it.
K/C:
1. copy
2. edit
3. improve
4. profit + proud (own car)
MY:
1. copy
2. edit..edit..edit..
3. haiya..ssh la… rebranding je lah
4. profit – proud (belilah brnagn buatan msia)
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rebadge..sorry typo
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rebadge..
this car made in japan, and those blind supporter here tells us, belilah inspira buatan malaysia.
Apa buatan malaysia?-? logo? from C country i think.
Congrats to engineers.—-If i’m those Rehat & Duduk engineer, i malu. Rebadge only woi! gaji buta ni.
Suspension, tuning, come on, you pay lotus to do this la, wat so proud?
and in langkawi, this chip pa lak waja-lancer = 10k lebih mahal than ori lancer.
they ask, why not use the name, Saga, wira, waja??
Saga- RM20000
Wira — RM40000
Waja– RM60000
they wanna chop the price, so they need a new name. but they malu to use the name perdana(RM100k) , so they got inspirasi(RM80-90k).
kereta semakin mahal wei. Duit semakin kecil.
3008, do u think price of nasi lemak now is still 50 cents like 20 years ago?
Cakap mudah lar…ko buka kilang kicap udah…kicap ko ada tapi botol kaca nak isi kicap takda…nak buat apa..design ada, material kaca nak jadikan botol takda..kalu kaca tu mahal, takkan product kicap aku nak jual murah kot…korang paham skrg…material bijih besi yg buat keta Proton mahal…korang mesti ckp..eleh besi murah jar…ko pergi pusing seluruh dunia n kilang hasilkan besi minta beli tengok..20 th lagi baru dpt bsi korang order tu…macam ko nak tgk MU punya game…ko booking tgk berapa tahun ko kena tunggu…rakyat malaysia berapa juta bro, yg nak gi reka lain pada org..ko dah tau nak pecah pasaran luar agak payah, so marketing bijak lar skit…jgn salahkan R&D…gi masuk tgk design apa Proton ada…korang terkejut tengok drawing design2 keta untuk Proton..tp marketing tak mengizinkan nak buat kereta kaw2 cam tu..sebiji screw pun kira bro..fikir lar sendiri
I totally agree with you tongkat.viva to your fantastic comments.keep it coming bro!!
love it…Saga Maga 1985 Saga now even scrap metal also dont want…because the cheap material Proton use,
beg your pardon? saga 1985 scrap metal also don’t want? as far as i know, the saga (orient model) year 1985 now days value at around RM8k to RM15k. just a few days ago, my neighbour rejected an offer from my colleague to buy his 1985 saga for RM10k cash. (still in mint condition of course!) hmm..?
look like a copy cat from mitsu car??? anyway just the price is lower i think!
This is great!!!!!!
To buy M car is too expensive for us and most of the money is paying for tax…….now we can get same car but different brand with lower price…….its worth it…… Malaysia Boleh……
Note: Brand is not important. Janji quality bagus!!!!!
After 25 years of reserach and design, we are still talking about power windows problem. low quality dashboard,no hope service from service center. Some people may say, you pay cheap price for proton for what you get.!!. Friend, I bought a BMW 3 Series at the price of Proton in Australia. For those who think those junk car is cheap…u are totally wrong.
do you buy brand new, or used?
brand new 3-Series in Australia = AUSD60K, Saga in Australia = AUSD12K.
or, are you saying `RM60k = AUSD60K?
if you’re stupid, don’t simply assume we’re also stupid like you.
We have a junk kid who still support junk goods. A fresh graduate paid AUD 36k per year with BMW at AUD 60k/unit. Over here, it get pay RM24/year but BMW at RM 250K/unit
Use your head to think. Is it cheap in Malaysia ?
that’s because your head are skewed.. thinking only about car. try put other things into consideration. if BMW is soooo cheap, why i didn’t see many BMW on the roads there? BMW is still considered a luxury car.
BMW Group Australia managing director Stavros Yallouridis said:
“(In some other countries with higher taxes) BMW has a four and a half to five per cent market share – (but) in Australia we are struggling to get two per cent at the moment, so why can’t we have a similar trend in Australia to some of the other countries in the world? ”
now, can you think why this is happening?
that’s because your head are narrow minded like proton made power window..thinking only the junk metal. There are plenty of kuxury cars at cheaper there and why do they need to drive BMW if they have given a choice. Who care what BMW Group MD is saying, they have to have a good strategy to sell their car at different country.
cheaper luxury cars? what the hell is that?.. is there such thing as cheap luxury? you don’t have a point, do you?
australia has ‘cheap’ luxury cars (AUS$60K is cheap according to your standard). yet they only accounted for less than 6% of market share. BMW get only 1.7% of the pie.
my point is, even though the car price there is low, there are many other things which are more expensive than here. house, petrol & food are among the other things. you could buy 2-storey semi-D for RM350k in Rawang / Bangi. it would be AUS$500k for single storey detached house in Perth for the same distance from city centre. it would cost more in Sydney or Melbourne.
and, do you know that there’s excise duty of 38cent for every litre of petrol that you purchase there, + another 10% GST?
agreed… don’t convert the price with RM but convert it with our perkapita income. but unfortunately there is still a lot more stupid malaysians that still can’t see the difference…
economy is not as easy as ABC or 123… every country has advantages / disadvantages. try think about this:
Singapore GDP is much higher than Malaysia. But we pay the same amount in RM as Singaporean pay in SG dollars for McDonalds and cars.
we buy McD with RM10, in Singapore it’s SGD10.
we pay RM70k for Honda City, in Singapore it’s also SGD70k
what’s our advantage?
our condo in PJ is RM250k, but condo in Singapore is SGD400k+.
Mengapa ambil SIngapore utk comparison? Ramai so call professional like to give statistic and big picture to show they are expert….in actual fact, their brain is kosong, they know only find the worse single item to make comparison. This sound so familiar in our country and you heard it every time. Jgn lah malu kan wisdom of malaysian. National car quality cannot improve with this bunch of supporter….murah so cheap neh fair right….what a shame.
Ambillah negara lain…nak tengok perbezaan dan statistik. Semua orang tau yang Singapura ni apapun mahal.
okay, you do the comparison with whatever country you like, and let us see the result. remember, the comparison must be fair & square. if you count a condo rental here, you must count for condo rental there, not just a single room rental.
what a joke, taking property price into comparison. Adik, if you buy a condo at price X, after several years, price will inflate. You get X+earning. Dont compare with the investment in car. The fact is we are paying too much for local car with our earning here. The car will depreciate just like that. Why pay so much with our low income here compare to advance country.
Dont act like a smart kid, boy. sigh..
Guys, some correction…… If you don’t convert the currency, of course most of the things in their country is cheaper than Malaysia (1 to 1 comparison) because their money is higher value………same as Singapore.
e.g. SGD1k can buy a lot of things in Singapore but RM1k just can buy little in Malaysia….. If you are the nation there and earning their money and spend there that’s good. But if you bringing RM to spend there…….totally out.
Another e.g. Singapore fresh graduate engineer can get average SGD 2.2k per month and Malaysia fresh graduate engineer only can get average RM2k per month. Obviously, their life will be better compare to us but of course they have their limitation as well…….
Fren, we have to feel happy to stay in Malaysia………because our country is free from natural disaster.
Mofaz, you are out date………
Now a day our Honda City where to get RM70k? Please get 1 for me if you have lubang (must be brand new). Further more, in Singapore, SGD70k you should driving Altis and not City………
The expensive thing in SIngapore is only the house because they have limited land……….but don’t forget house in KL also not cheap.
Our new generation will facing life tougher and tougher.
When will they launch the Mitsu ASX clone?
Dun worry bro/sis Proton will come out wif ASX model soon dat i can put my money down.Today Price,yesterday technology!
call it proton Gen X hahaha,
Since so many people hate the car, I might just get one… just to see the look on their faces :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
agreed… well by the time you roll out inspira on the road people with look up at you… like u drive a ferrari.. nice huh? =p head up high!!
hahah… rilek rilek… after this we can actully see lots of evos’ and evo jadian on the road… majulah motorsport malaysia…
aku rasa nama inspira ni tak berape sesuai la ngn proton baru ni. memandangkan proton kebanyakkan nya menggunakan nama yg gagah… kegagahan… contoh saga, iswara, wira, waja, juara, satria, putra, … gen2 ngn persona je lain. kenapa tak bg nama Proton Sakti kat inspira ni… lg sesuai ooo… rupa dia yg masih agresif kit… nampak gagah… sakti… hehehe… ape komen korang?
Paul, you making me stuck here. Really tak sabar want to met our new Proton Inspira.
Me too!!! update! update! pls! can’t wait :p
micro site for inspira…
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http://www.protoninspira.com/
hooray! just back from showroom… not much impress me except the price… build quality just ok (especially dashboard).. material also nothing to proud with the price tag (National Car)..
hope many people booking this.. then competition more tough from other car maker… by that i can booking their car with better deal…
sorry proton for not putting deposit on this Car.. wish future owner happy with this Inspira.. yr money, u decide.. give positive comment are welcome.. dont bash!
i like your comment..bash can but not blindly bash :)
quality is the same as the lancer gt … just compare between mitsubishi lancer gt compare with proton Inspira … especially on the dashboard… sama saja ma… i just compare with my friend car…
all proton inspira customer after taking ur new car can go straight to Sunway for Front Bumper change to Mitsui one ya.
Rhys Millen..have u cut hair in japan?..u better do because from there u will know how much is costing in japan compared to malaysia,,,talk is easy man..
Timun .. believe it or not it is up to you.. .When you compare prices in countries which have the same tax for both Proton and Mitsubishi you will find that even the Lancers cost less than the Proton Persona. It comes back to simple accounting in corporate worlds .. The tanjung malim plant isn’t exactly a small investment. It even made it onto National Geographic on how advanced the assembly plant is .. but only caters to mainly domestic consumption which isn’t exactly a large volume by global automotive manufacturing standards.
vat69, totally agree with you. me and my friends did the comparison also. my friend even drove his lancer gt to the proton showroom. quality same, only few parts different, (placement of meter, panel lane colour etc..)
Malaysian get rob again…….The inspira is even more expensive that the Lancer 2.0GT RM91,999 vs RM71,800 (Langkawi price). How come?
Langkawi price no excise duty la, ngog
Because bashers are not smart enough to see that they’re comparing Lancer price without excise duty and Inspira price with excise duty! Think Proton don’t have to pay excise duty is it?
New price langkawi is released. RM82999. How come more expensive than Lancer?
because they need to share the profit with mitsubishi..
Is is because of middle man price from Proton. Mitsubishi is selling directly to the owner whereas Inspira is brought from Mitsubishi and then sell to the customer. (Of course there is some lotus tech payment inducted).
yalor,Langkawi is Duty Free Zone larr,without excise duty,ngog ngog…
its because of 60% imported content me think…
Totally with you on this Perodua… Maybe you should back-up your statement with some facts, or else they will think you are just another lame critics.
I would like to share with you guys some of the facts that may caught your interest or maybe some food for your thoughts;
Fact no. 1:
OTR price with insurance in Langkawi;
Proton Inspira 2.0 CVT – RM82,999.00
Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0GT – RM71,800.00
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/showroom-lancer-langkawi.php
Verdict/Comment:
May need someone from Proton to explain these. Just want to clarify that our Proton is only with 60% import from Japan parts while the Lancer is 100% CBU from Japan.
Fact no. 2:
OTR price with Insurance in Peninsular Malaysia;
Proton Inspira 2.0 CVT – RM91,999.00
Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0GT – RM123,980.00
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/showroom-lancer-peninsular.php
Hire Purchase Interest Rate for 9 years;
Proton Inspira 2.0 CVT – 4.10% p.a.
Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0GT – 3.85% p.a.
http://paultan.org/2010/06/02/hire-purchase-interest-rates-are-up-by-about-0-25/
With 10% down-payment, the monthly payment for 9 years tenure would be;
Proton Inspira 2.0 CVT – RM1,049.56
Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0GT – RM1,391.16
Verdict/Comment:
The 10% down-payment for the Lancer may be quite high but to think of the monthly payment with only a margin of RM341.60 for a 100% CBU car from Japan and those alluring 18″ wheels, you better think twice guys…
Final verdict:
The choice is yours. Make yourself happy and don’t listen to others. Smart guys get it.
You can give me as many thumbs down as you want, but these are facts.
I own a Proton Iswara by the way.
Best regards,
Supporter
Simple .. it cost money to replace the bumpers, steering wheel cover so original cost of the vehicle before tax is higher .. So your inspira in tax free zone will definately cost more than a lancer.
10k extra for the front and rear bumpers as well as suspension bushes etc.
Also our assembly plant has lower volume and as such fixed cost is divded over less units. So overall assembly cost in Malaysia is more expensive than Japan.
The only reasonable reason for more expensive is that proton has to pay loyalty to mitsubishi for every inspira they are selling. This is like earliest proton car where proton has to pay for royalty.
The thing I found out in this blog is that many proton supporters is supporting for nothing. And they do not see the ‘danger’ behind all this practice of rebadging.
But in our deepest heart we know that this inspira is not the genuine proton product. The Inspira is just a mirror and copy of the Lancer. How can our people so foolish that we treat it like our very own ‘creation’?
They are good in the car spec, good in arguing, good in cursing, good in taxing but they are unable to see with a clearer picture and the important point in doing business is to do R&D and polish up the management, production, sales & service line. Take the opportunity while proton is still under the government protection to improve themselves. Government protection is a privilege and not a must.
The winner in this games is definitely Mitsubishi because proton has to pay a long term loyalty for every Inspira that is sold in the country. For Mitsubishi, they are selling Lancer and ‘Inspira’ and proton is indirectly ‘controlled’ by them. Aren’t they see this picture? We get ‘muka’ but our ‘pocket’ & ‘brain’ is ’empty’
You can argue that other car maker also practice rebadging but they also having their own car model. Rebadging would be beneficial in short term but it will make the proton R&D lazy and no progress. We have Proton Emas but when can we see it in the Malaysian road?
Thanks Rhys Millen… That makes sense.
Finally found someone with a brilliant answer. :)
well…at least proton did not rebadge every single one of their car..(exp perodua);)
also the profit from selling inspira can be used to develop a better car in the future..for example the persona replacement..because developing a new car took a lot more cost than rebadging one…marketing strategy la bro
some people says that its a no brainer job of rebadginglah, lazy rnd lah bla…bla…bla. but, how can we relate this brainless job with perodua that doesn’t have any single model that is designed & developed by themselves?? and yet still to be called as a national car…?
whose brain is empty all this while??
1k+++ utk monthly…xmampu la takuk gaji bwh 3k…
kate target utk pengguna waja, pesona, satria…nie da lari 4-5rat sbulan….
argggggh…
dr segi marketing n teknologi…mmg cun la..ape lg..proton da leh godam la abis2 enjin mivec tu secara halal…masukan dlm CPS..kan cun..
dr segi moral..meniru x bek!
tp tu sala satu teknik belajar.
I went to the showroom as well, and I must say that I’m quite impressed too. From the salesmen there, I found out that there are actually quite a number of hidden features not available in the original Lancer GT; you’ll only know after you own it. Features include the familiar features borrowed from the Exora’s Body Control Module such as Follow Me Headlights system, as well as other features such as auto off lights if you forgot to turn off the lights before taking out the key.
The only thing that I dislike is basically the same as in the Lancer GT which is the paddle shifters. I prefer paddle shifters being permanently attached to the steering wheel as in the Civic and the City because we can change gears even on tight corners, but it is harder to be done with the paddle shifters of the Inspira and the Lancer GT.
Proton have been fighting a hard battle for the last 25yrs. Even proud Malaysians are devided over it. But the rationale of Inspira is off. I don’t buy what the CEO said. (Probably to save his job). Why use everything Mitsu (except for suspension)? Why CPS engine cannot work ah? 1.6L + Turbo?? How hard is it strap a turbo and make reliable? Mods shops all over KL can do it. Proton R&D take such a long time. I hate to say this, but what are the guys doing in R&D?
All the car companies are going for fuel efficient engine. 1.8L & 2.0L? Ermm.. did the Marketing guys sleep through the last Petrol prince increase?
Smart guys get it? Sure. Smart guys think it’s car to stay away. What’s the last 2.0L engine Proton had? Maintenance cheap? Keke
Old engine, old design. For the price, and considering 1Malaysia means price hikes, sure you guys want to put $$ on this? I being a practical Malaysia will take PM’s good offer for Hybrid’s lower taxes.
PS: Seriously!! Hyundai’s Theta engine even more canghih on fuel efficiency. Damn malu Proton!!
do you drive lancer?
i’ve rented mit lancer once, and drove few of my friend lancer mivec, GLS. i dun feel good (all r CBU japan) s’pore registered car. personally prefer honda, subaru, suzuki or least toyota/isuzu than mitsubishi, mazda, daihaitsu, nissan
well done my friend.
love your comment.
use kepala to think, use kepala lutut to simply bash
me too
Exited!! Haha..nevermind what bashers said, Proton will always be Proton..keep up the good work Proton!!
I started survey the overall specs for Mit Lancer GT (inspira) vs. Civic, ALtic, Camry and Accord and Inspira looks longer, wider and taller than Civic and the price …almost 35k cheaper and now no worries about resale value since it will be under Proton and we bale get better value compared to Mitsui
cmon bro..think wisely la…mit lancer gt not same with inspira…heard from tv3 last nite, they want increase local part to 60% (current is 40%)..it is weird, p1 keep changing their word, part from japan from 95% to 90%, then 80%, then for after 300 unit become 60%, now they said they will increase local part to 60% that mean original part from japan is only 40% in the future?they decrease the manufacturing cost, would they decrease selling price? i’m afraid they wont, but the will change the tail n front lamp, claim it as lifted model and increase the price..well done..
Will they be on every dealers’ showroom today?
Can they keep up the ‘good work’ not at my expense please?
Sadly no..so what you’re gonna do about it? Haha
1000% agreed.
please expand on what you were refering to when you said “not at my expense”.
you honestly think proton keeps itself afloat without tax money?
Well said.. I caught the message in between.. ” Proton will always be Proton” Hahahaha….
There are three type of person commented on this page,
1. lancer owners who feel very sad and started to bash inspira
2. proton hard core who praised this model
3. unknown readers who just simply hantam or talk about car without knowledge
4. very poor people who have no money even to buy a wheelbarrow but talk like they
one of the richest man in Malaysia
5. wise man who can think and talk wise, no prejudice, no skeptic and reasonable
soo..who are you?
Lancer owners unlikely to be writing here, filled with sadness.
Apalah Proton hardcore, most of us are below this budget.
Rich man no time to write here, wise man say nothing.
I am the below average person who can buy a wheelbarrow but not an Inspira. Pesona closest thing.
Inspira owners will be laughing now but after 2 years they will be crying and Lancer owners will be laughing….trust my words….wait for the real quality of the Proton
wow u can see the future..impressive! =D
Anand is right. The good man is implying what was learned for the past 25 years (and present).
After 25 years, Protong are the master of Rebadging Technique (Mitsubishi – abang besar) and excellent Salvaging Specialist (Lotus – a company even the UK people doesn’t want to keep).
Nothing good will come from these guys. Looks like history gonna repeat itself once more. Anybody opt for another round of 25 years of lousy engineering?
I am proton owner for 6 yrs and never crying and I can travel a lot because I just pay very little..:)
if 70%/60% come from mitsu, shud owner lancer be laughing qt inspira owner???
i’ve checki that even the front and rear windscreen come from mmc itself, not made in malaysia.
so who will be laughing now???
maybe me>>>and by the way, inspira expensive in langkawi becoz they have to pay royalty to mitsu, if mitsu sell lancer 72k, that is for mtsu profit only, now proton also want profit, so 10 k is proton profit/mitsu royalty.
by the way, many features upgraded from original lancer from malaysia such as isofix(misu lancer euro spec), rain and light sensor,welcome home and coming home light, ride and handling…so all the gadgets is available for mitsubishi lancer euro spec, which is not sold in malaysia.
so of course the price will be different. so actually we get lancer spec euro when we buy inspira compare to original lancer which use asian spec. so, smart guy get it.
SY0H, I agree with you but I have to maintain that Lotus are geniuses. In the 25 years worth of crap Proton has come up with, buying Lotus is its greatest achievement. If Proton’s engineers can collaborate well with their counterparts from Lotus, maybe there still is a future for them.
In case u haven’t read properly, Inspira ride and handling is done by “PROTON RIDE AND HANDLING’. Not Lotus. There was no LOTUS involvement. Our boys can do it well.
eerr….are there 3 or 5 types??
haha.. good one. there are 6 types i think.
6. proton supporters who cant count.
thats why internet rocks..we cannot see all this comment /opinion in our mainstream media. everybody no 1-6 try to give their opinion and makes readers think black and white or grey. Finally it just between your money and proton.
Good one Bro…
I’, at no 6. Just read what people post… heheh
i at 7.. read n lough kaw2 after read all the post… good job proton.keep it up.
i agree with YOU most of them here are (very poor people who have no money even to buy a wheelbarrow but talk like they one of the richest man in Malaysia) some of them maybe blacklist already and sakit hati because tak dpt beli then kutuk la kaw2 utk sedap kan hati , all basher here are fucking moron , why they talk moron thing because this Proton company not their father company . I hope all Proton staff and the Proton lover find all this basher or just find one of them strip all the clothes and put the Inspira Absorber into the ass , before that do some ‘Tarbiah’ or solid explanation to this moron . HIDUP PROTON .
Ah…behold the wisdom of a hardcore Proton supporter. Wise words to live by…..
aku rasa aku no. 5 ….. i’m the owner of Mit. Lancer GT but i’m not dissappointed due to INSPIRA …. nOW a days, the rebadge is command…. semua brand buat and Proton pun buat … apa nak dikecohkan …. yang penting sapa ada duit beli … berkenan nak pakai Lancer GT .. time nih lah beli … harga pun murah .. nak convert balik pun senang .. berlambak-lambak budak LGTC yang nak jual spare part depa, apa susah …. kepada owner LANCER GT, tak payah lah bersedih….. yang penting lepas nih mungkin spare part akan lebih murah …… dan kita dah lama dah jadi SMART GUY …… TO PROTON, WELL DONE …. aku bangga ngan perkembangan proton yang sudah pun maju dan mengikut perkembangan dunia permotoran sedunia…. aku pun pengguna proton jugak dari proton saga megavalve dan sekrang sudah pun tukar proton saga BLM …. pada pandangan aku selama aku pakai proton … TERBAIK DAN CEMERLANG …… TERIMA KASIH PROTON ..
I’m a Lancer GT owner, bought it last Raya. And no, I’m not sad. I’m very happy, especially after I came back from Proton showroom yesterday =) Why?
1. Salesman proton sound bila aku hulur tangan pegang absorber belakang tayar
2. Dia sound lagi bila aku letak tangan bawah mudguard masa ada sorang minah kurus duduk kat seat belakang (try this yourselves guys, only need one thin lady. Then you’ll know)
3. Dia sound lagi bila aku usik connector engine yang STILL MELEKIT coz’ of gam engine cincai tu
4. Dia sound lagi bila aku check interior, as usual; gosok steering, dashboard, ketuk pintu, feel gear. clutch, etc.
Then he asked “Abang ni dari Honda, Toyota ke? Usik-usik semua part ni?” Hahaha, salah ke aku buat semua tu? If I want to buy it, of course I want to check everything. Right? =) Belum dapat tengok deeply lagi, such as materials they use to make the lights, seats, rims, breaks, etc.
Of course, performance-wise would be good, I think…coz’ guna enjin Mitsubishi kan?
As a result, now I know why Inspira is cheaper, because it’s a localized Lancer GT a.k.a. “Normal Proton Waja made to look like Lancer GT” I said this coz’ I also own Waja 2003 model. The feelings are similar when I felt Inspira’s interior, so I know.
I’m merely presenting facts here, after hands-on experience. So please correct me if I’m wrong, coz I have both Waja and Lancer GT side-by-side at home =)
Proton banyak problem? OK je Waja aku, dah masuk 7 tahun. Last year, aku cat putih nak kasi sama ngan Lancer. Other than that, AKU TAK PENAH MODIFY WAJA AKU, MAYBE THAT’S WHY I DON’T HAVE PROBLEMS =D
If Inspira is EXACTLY like my fully-imported Lancer GT, then I’d kill myself. OK? No hard feelings y’all, peace!!! Salam 1M!!! =)
p/s: Inspira yang aku usik-usik tu kat Seksyen 8 Bangi, 1.8 Manual punye =)
proton is always proton..that why difficult for proton to succeed.
please get the interior pics as much as you can..tq
somebody dont look too happy in the photo(s)……..
wooooooooot… Potong Lancer~!!!
Waaaah!!! I heard the bodykit shops already got Lancer conversion kits ready to install!!! Lancer buyers bang balls!
hahahaaa…this momment is everyone berdebar…
when can we test drive the new Proton Lancer, really tak tahan want to try ah… please attach more photo !
it is like lancer with a facelift, only add change to the name as well. and cheaper price!! good… can we have more mitsu models please, proton??
Price list updated!
Proton Inspira 1.8 CVT to 2.0 CVT just RM6000 difference, how to chose ah! or chose Mitsubishi Lacer RM116000. just 20k Difference ah ah ahhhh , how to chose !
If you choose Lancer for 116k over inspira 92k, then your resale will be great loss making as at entry level you already loose 24k with inspira…
Mr.Bily@ Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0 EX price RM120,980.00 OTR with insurance not RM116k
i think, the ‘ego’ of owning original lancer will be shortlived. why pay more when you can get almost similar car + better handling at 20k cheaper? 20k could buy petrol worth for several years, and means that u pay lower interest. 20k x 9 (loan tenure) x 3% (just assumption, anyone who have exact interest rate for mitsu cars please update) = RM5400 extra for bank interest.
Not exactly the same thing lah. Fully imported from Japan vs fully licenced from Japan with some compulsory local parts and different factory.
i said “almost”
20k is a big amount.. so i prefer Inspira..
failed. Mitsu GT in Malaysia came from Thailand. Now, compare Thailand to Malaysian products. Are they that much difference? LOL. So sad that some of Lancer GT owners also dont realize this.
Oh, Im a Proton staff. Sorry for the biased comment, but at least I didnt lie. =P
apa kira. beli inspira and extra RM 20K kasi bikin la cun cun. modify kaw kaw la.
oooooo Lancer GT from Thailand……..Mitsubishi factory means Mitsubishi management, standards & equipment also.
Wa lao comparing Mitsu plant with Proton plant…..maybe Proton staff can enlighten us if Proton equipment, system and labour superior or the same with Mitsu Thailand.
I tot Mitsu just said Lancer frm Japan? so from Japan ke atau Thailand plant.
But never mind, Lancer is as good as finished in Malaysia until new model comes out.
Won’t be surprised affect the Evo also.
Lancer actual value is RM71,800 without the tax. So the inspira is consider expensive.
you’re comparing lancer without tax vs inspira with tax.. is it fair?
lancer without tax = RM72k, Inspira without tax = RM59k. Unless u don’t know mathematic, Inspira is alot cheaper!!!!
The basic selling price for the Inspira in Langkawi is RM66,632.50 for the manual 1.8, RM70,528.50 for the 1.8 CVT and RM74,946.60 for the 2.0 CVT.
And it’s RM71,999, RM75,999 and RM82,999 respectively, on-the-road with insurance .
Very fair. Inspira just a short drive to Langkawi. To import CBU from anywhere always expensive. Easily add a few thousand to the price of the car.
proton and perodua not tax meh?
How come Inspira is not selling at 59k in langkawi instead of RM82999? Mofaz…So the new released inspira RM82999 cf RM71800..So Inspira still cheaper?
i don’t really know what’s behind the price. maybe dealer asking for more profit in langkawi, or maybe tax in peninsular is lower that what it should be for Proton. well, i’m confused too.
but if you compare waja selling price in saudi arabia is around RM40k (without tax), then the formula is actually correct that waja is being taxed 48% in peninsular. anybody know waja selling price in langkawi?
Lancer 2.0 in Langkawi is RM72k?..
Lancer 2.0 in Arab is 62k Dirhams or RM53k only!
Lancer 2.0 CBU in peninsular have 130% tax. if Langkawi price is RM72k, then peninsular should be RM165k.. but that’s not the case.
if we use arab price RM53k, then peninsular price is RM122k after tax, which is closer to current peninsular price. Which means that Mitsu is making RM20k more profit in Langkawi than Arab?
Inspira 2.0 have 55% tax (excise and sales tax) in peninsular, RM92k minus the tax should be RM59k only in Langkawi. but Proton is selling it at RM83k, which means RM24k extra profit for Proton and distributors?
Looks like, the car price without the taxes is sooo low and automakers / importers / distributors decided to increase the price for better profit margin. how many cars being sold in Langkawi anyway?
guys… all this while, we got it all wrong…
now i know, we shouldn’t use Langkawi price as the base of ‘tax-free’ price because the profit margin is huge compared to peninsular due to low sales volume there. we should refer to Arab price instead. it’s hard to find price of Prius and civic Hybrid in Arab… so i will use price in US for comparison (price of cars in both countries are quite close).
Prius in US = USD22k = RM68k. toyota is selling it at RM110k in langkawi and we think the price should be 110% of that in peninsular but we are wrong, toyota already add RM40k as profit margin for the price in langkawi. with 10% sales tax it should be just RM75k here in peninsular, right?
MoFaz is just a dumbass, read this :
http://paultan.org/2006/03/24/nap-tax-rates/
losantara, can you stop being such a loser? which year of tax structure are u refering to? 2006? that was almost 5 years old la.. u better stay bawah tempurung forever.
Go read The Star Bizweek last Saturday, 2010 NAP has no change in tax structure !!
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/11/6/business/7309918&sec=business
you are really a DUMB-ASS
yes, 2010 has no change in tax structure compared to 2008. your previous post is referring to 2006, which have some changes in 2008. for example CBU from Asean no longer have 10% import tax (0% now).
next time before u call other person dumb-ass, please check your ass first. just like katak bawak tempurung, no wonder people like u mati katak in the middle of the road…
losantara..used this!!
http://www.maa.org.my/info_duty.htm
MoFaz oh MoFaz
Wah MoFaz cannot sleep due to my post. He is still online at 1.37am hahahaha so sorry buddy. i wondered are you actually a jobless graduate who is online 24 hours :)
The import tax is reduced than what about the excise duty ? Do not talk KOK la brader. Do you actually read what is published in my link or not IDIOT ? You tak tau kira-kira ke ? Atau you kira macam kura-kura
Thanks KZM, tell IDIOT MoFaz what is his mistake in his Saudi Arabiaaaaa tax structure :)
loser,
i think you have no idea what you’re talking about. what KZM pointed there is asking you to use the most recent duty structure, not the dinosaur era like the one you post here. hurm.. maybe you can’t understand simple english, which means u really are dumb-ass…
there’s no tax in Arab, so why should they have tax structure? are u really that stupid, loser?
apa kebende ckd ngan cbu…..
Paul, the price include insurance or without insurance?
yup with insurance
Thanks Paul, interesting pricing indeed.
your price list for manual is wrong i think. I see on photos, its RM79,888.
that’s original price…
not OTR price…
Forte is still better even though both Inspira and Forte price are almost the same. Forte better looking on exterior, has better interior and has more features as well.
RM79,888 is the Tentative Price release on the SoftLaunch , the official price is RM78,999 for 1.8MT Met
congrats P3-90A team!
[en ZB, en Tarmi, en Tarik Tali, en Um, en Lab, ms Maz, ms Balq, en hubby-penzoil, ms BJ]
Thank you Mr Fa….
congrat wat? rebadge only. the steering so ugly.
so?
Bro, just ignore that zero IQ basher laa…
Just waste your time only loo…
typical basher hehehe nothing can fulfill their hatred
nowadays everyone also rebadge.. good move by proton.
who are they??..they engineers??..well congrats engineers
Pls read more bro, VW, Peugeot and others oso rebadge their non core product. Its not a SIN to rebadge. Pls open your eye la..
who r they?? the engineers???..well congrats engineers
who r they?? the engineers???..well congrats engineers..
they r d one who make this happen
they bring this car at such a high price, and tell us they tuned the suspension ( actually lotus did it la, money only) and then this is a product of malaysia.
I understand those engineers cannot make the call, but still, its nothing to congratulate to the engineer la. What actually did they do? Test drive? change bushing? Change bumper? Like that i think we need to thank from SA to the driver that drive the treler panjang, to the bank staff that apporve your car loan, to the rakyat that paid so much for everything.
Stop been gratitude, this is a business world, if you are not making money you are out. Proton is using Rakyat’s money to live.
So, no , engineers you should thank rakyat for hiring you. You know you always goyang kaki and go tea time.
and who are you to belittle other peoples work.? you think you alone workhard? other people around you all goyang kaki? .. if you think proton not making money ?go check their record for the past 25 years.. .. there are years when they are in red..but most of the time they are in black.. when they are in black they also contribute to the progress of our country, heck even when they are in Red..they still contribute from all the taxes when their call sold. CCB .. just because you pay tax.. you think you own everybody that work in the goverment sector and GLC ka? u think business and private sector will work well alone without good goverment ka? everybody have their own role lah.. so stop thinking like the country owe you or something…
i dont think all/most of the engr have the last words….
” please proceed , built it and make it happen ”
or
” scrap it we want something more crappy than this’… ok.. next please…
furthermore, they are goverment-link-companies….
to them…. the gov interest is something not to be ignored.
bila plak proton guna duit rakyat???? stupid comment… x skolah… & another thing… lotus adalah anak syarikat proton… so aper problem proton ntuk gunakannya????
oo..ok i get it….they r the boss or managmenet team right??…i only want to congratulate the engineers….congrats proton engineers…… keep up the good work….
keep ur good work bros!!
Thanks Paul.
79K for 1.8 manual mivec looks very tempting!!
Only if you can get 0 to 100 below 10 secs.
viva Proton.. shut the bashers up..
As long as Proton is dependent on protection at the expense of the people there is nothing to be proud of.
If that’s the case, then same goes for Perodua. But bashers don’t see things that way don’t they?
i do believe this thing wont be forever dude…one day proton will stand on its own
so.. go and get your viva basic then?
Yay! i can get my inspiralution soon.
2.0… blom cukup duit …….
unlike all other “aspiring” local auto blogger, no1 can be close to PT’s coverage and professionalism
bravo!
luv the lower rear design…..
how about the interior ? any video or photo ?
that MC guy is very cute <3 <3
the cars pls…
Jangan la sexist…
Kite laki dengan muka tak malu asyik kata “oo… i dun want car, I want chicks oni!!”, “ooo… those chicks very nice”, blablabla.
Bila pompuan kata ada laki hensem, baru nak kata tengok keter la ye? :)
@Sara ,
That’s Naz, NTV7 Breakfast show hosts and also husband of SheahNee Iman Lee, ,newscaster of NTV7.
Oh dear, someone please kill the rim’s designer….horrible rims to complement an elegant car…
aiyo u.. rim sengaja like that one
so that inspira owner can had a reason to change to evo rim maaaaa
kill also the people that had agreed to the design
to all proton fan, relax la bro, this is not even 50% proton car…
are all Perodua models even 50% Perodua??
Fully imported Perodua Nautica pula~if you happen to forget how the Nautica looks like, go to the street and take a peak at the Toyota Rush.
go google the Daihatsu Move, Sirion, Mira n others and u’ll get suprised.
agreed with you on perodua. that’s why I said.. “relax la bro”… it’s just a lancer at cheaper price… that’s all..
Hari ini dalam sejarah malaysia… budak mitsu ditakluk budak proton.
Can U all pick the diffs between Inspira and lancer?
the badge is for one…
The badge :)
The badge :)…..
the handling, suspension.. etc.. do homework please
they dont see that…..
The price.
Live gallery uploaded.
i find that proton are clearly ripping everybody off.
look at perodua. the price of a myvi is approx. the price a toyota passo of japan
our inspira on the other hand is almost 20k more the the mitsubishi lancer of japan.
something is really wrong here.
no doubt its a good car. but why should ppl support proton when clearly they are ripping us off?
be a smart person and not be cheated by Proton.
why ?u wan inspira price rm50k like myvi price..hahahah
proton_suppoter mean that, at japan mit lancer gt price at about less 20k from malaysia price. aiyya.. bbingbong that simple english u didnt understand..
so .. wise guy, how much is the cost to own a lancer gt at japan? I mean, total ownership cost ; road tax, insurance, park cost or any name of payment that you must pay the japanese G to own the lancer gt there. please dont just compare the car price please, if you want to compare, then compare everything. Include the cost of fuel at japan too. Dont tell people you want car price like japan but fuel and tax like the saudi.
I want car price & tax like other country such as Brunei where both are cheap. Hehe..
agree with u on that….Malaysian love everything to be cheap but do not want to know the impact to others thing.
hahahha good comment bro!
Spot on bro! In Japan, way even before you decide to have a car, you must secure a spot to park the car. Once you’ve done that, with an annual fee of course, you must apply to the local authority for endorsement. An official will come and check that your ‘parking spot’ is truly yours before releasing a letter allowing you to purchase a car. Then only you can buy the car that you want. On top of that, you will need to send your car for mandatory checks for road worthiness at officially designated workshops every two to three years(if the car is new, then it is due in the third year) after which any faults found would have to be rectified, all costs borne by the owner of course, before a certificate of fitness is issued! And on top of that (I am not finished yet!) you will have to get rid of your car after a number of years(forgotten how many years) after it is deemed unfit for use, at the scrap yard and best of all you have to pay them to get rid of it for you!! Just imagine that happening in Malaysia!! So be thankful for what we have…
cause proton are charge with tax to..
nothing bro bro..u hv to look at myvi vs passo spec?are they equal?surely we got downgraded version..thats why myvi cheap(but it’s still overprice for that crap of machine)
good one bro…
yeah yeah
be a smart guy & go buy ur perodua.
P2 pricing is approx. as Jap. as claimed by u.
but are u getting the same spec as Jap for the approx price?
at least inspira have +value.
I hate people compare Myvi vs Inspira/Lancer. Myvi is aunties car to go to market for buying sundries.
then there are a lot of aunties buying cars to market, more than the macho man that drives a P1 to work ( since P2 outsell P1 for4 years ).
oh, wait, P1 supporter mostly takes a motorbike to work. and they defend P1 becos its the only car they can afford to make them look macho.
well, real man at least drives a EG6 or EK9. lol.
how you know P1 supporters mostly take bikes? you count them one by one on roads ah?
ahahaha EG6 / EK9 takat bagi adik aku pakai bole la, dah takde value dah, nak buat kereta pegi pasar dan hantar anak sekolah bole la
please compare tax in Japan and Malaysia.
tax for local cars is about 38% for 1.8 and below. which means Inspira 1.8 factory price is about RM52k. cheaper than Japan right?
sorry.. inspira ‘factory price before tax’ + dealer profits should be about RM57k.
cheated by proton?
then you must be robbed by perodua.
explain how our myvi is 10k more expensive than the super high spec uk myvi.
this is inspira forum…pls don’t compare with myvi.
myvi can compare with saga oni…
clearly you are not very clever person are you?
in the UK, you have to pay tons (sorry, in your english, a lot of) of taxes. where as us it is only road tax (for local cars, before you start barking).
i was taking the price of a myvi and toyota passo as an example.
you have to compare price of the lancer in Langkawi (after importing fees, handling fees and etc.) before coming to a snipe conclusion. (sorry idiotic conclusion, if you didnt understand my previous remark)
u’re not so clever, so don’t be like “pot calling kettle black”
local cars also being taxed (excise duty + sales tax). 47.5% for 1.8 and below, and 55% for 2.0. without these taxes, Waja is only RM40k, and Inspira is just RM53k (1.8) to RM59k (2.0).
Industry guys eh.
Mofaz is proton supporter, and tiadaid too.
they support tongkat bearing idea. lol.
tongkat selama lamanya
wat mofaz said is fact
http://www.maa.org.my/info_duty.htm
if CBU/CKD import duty is 30% / 10% (0% ASEAN CEPT), multi-sourcing parts (MSP) 10% , excise tax 75%(<1800cc)/ 90%(2000-2499cc), n 10% sales tax n minus 50% excise tax for proton…
proton(<1800)= 0%+37.5%+10% = 47.5% + 10%MSP(?) = 57.5%?
CBU(<1800)= 30%+75%+10% = 115%
CKD(<1800)=10%+75%+10% = 95%
CBU/CKD(asean <1800) = 0%+75%+10% = 85%
myvi and passo in japan not in the same spec bro. myvi is downgraded one. same goes to passo sette and alza. the alza is a downgraded one.
Basically Inspira is Mitsubishi Lancer without the 30% import duty.
You’re kidding right? Everybody knows that Myvi is a downgraded version of the Passo.
Selling downgraded version of a car at a similar price to its superior siblings is not a rip-off?
Why don’t you compare the price of conti cars in Europe and conti cars in Malaysia as well? Are we being ripped off by conti companies too?
I would agree with this comment.
Why is the Lancer GT being sold at RM69,744.10 in Langkawi while the Proton equivalent is RM91,999? That’s a RM22,000 difference.
I know that the Inspira would still have excise duties while the Lankawi Lancer has no excise duties, but do remember that Proton would (or should) be “saving” on costs for parts that are localised so that should result in almost similar price.
22k for lotus handling.
very syok when corner
even merc has to brake brake one
no need with lotus handling
wowowwwwow!!!!
U are comparing Lancer GT in Langkawi and Inspira in mainland….that’s not even close to fair comparison…Do u know how much Inspira is sold for in Langkawi?
Fair comment. I think Inspira’s Langkawi prices are not released yet right?
Ok, so Langkawi prices are out.
Lancer 2.0GT in Langkawi OTR is RM71,800
Inspira 2.0P in Langkawi OTR is RM82,999
That’s about RM11,800 pricier.
Have u consider Royalty paid to MItsu? I am sure Proton would have to pay MItsu, right…?
Open your eyes, go search the VW price in german than compare to other europe / us market. Than ask your self why VW price in germany is higher. Weird right? Than continue to support proton until we had the number to make things cheaper.
I’m in Germany and that is correct…the car price here is higher compare to other EU countries even with their own product= Audi, VW, Merc, Porsche etc….
everything here is expensive…..you’re a graduate (Diplom, Bachelor etc) but you only afford to rent a room for euro 300 (not a house)
Malaysia is more flexible and a lot of choices……here you only have Lidl,Aldi, Real while in Malaysia you can either go to Carrefour, Giant, Jusco, Tesco etc….just for an info
So Proton keep it up
Yes, you are right. Get your father to send you RM5K per months for you to stay in any country in europe, I bet if you can afford to own a car there. RM5K here in Malaysia, can own 2 inspiras. Then only everybody knows how to appreciate our beloved country. Everything you want cheap. China cost of living is now as high as Malaysia, we here aren’t realising it.
Lancer basic start from 15k euros new up to Lancer 2.0 Turbo Ralliart 36k euros. Road tax yearly for 2.0l petrol engine would not exceed 300 euros. Petrol 1.45 euros per liter. Apartment rent usually 10 euros per sqm. Insurance start from 120 euros per month to a low of less than 30 euros. Food per person 300 per month more than enough.
Average income in Germany 1900 Euros nett after all deductions. Graduate should get at least 2.3k per month.
Living cost high? It’s all relative dude. I think Malaysia has higher living costs than Germany (ratio wise not absolute price).
excise duty for local cars 1800cc = 37.5%, for 2000cc = 45%. then add 10% sales tax. which means Inspira also being taxed for 47.5% – 55%. langkawi = 0% tax la bro, of course Inspira will be cheaper there! probably around RM53k (1.8) to RM59k (2.0).
Langkawi price is more expensive than Lancer….
it must be cost per car produce…mitsu should have EOS for car they produce more car they produce the cheaper it get, proton don hav that ability yet
lame comment. inspira ftw.
Mitsubishi Lancer (Sport variant)
1.8 CVT
2153000 Y = RM 81643
Proton Inspira
1.8 CVT
RM84,999 (+RM3K)
———————————-
Toyota Passo
1.3 CVT
1261000 Y = RM 47818
Perodua Myvi
1.3 EZi (Auto)
RM49,700 (+RM2K)
dont make stupid statement ok!
extra info, in Japan, 2.0 Lancer only available in Ralliart 4WD variant
for Passo they have CVT, P2 dont even have that for Alza
P2 sell cars which are downgraded from their Jap siblings.So Malaysian should get much lower prices for P2 than in Japan.Not that equal or just 1-5k in difference.Should be more than 5k per unit.
Remember that.
agree with you!
UMW just want fatty profit only but in the same time build a downgrade MYVI!!
UMW – United Making Wages for boss
aiyo.. Proton da turun harga pun mau bash jugak.. kalau sama harga dengn lancer pun still mau bash.. stupid
Just saw 1 inspra being trashed about. Location Puchong highway heading toward cyberjaya near Petronas & McD. Cant tell which version it was. Cant tell the diff between the Lancer and Inspria other than the big plate writen “Inspira”.
my father in law will be amongst the 11 first owner today. and he already owned a lancer 2.0! very excited maaa!!! black lancer and white inspira in the family! hahaha…
Can you comment later the differences between your father lancer and inspira in terms of performance and comfortability ?
that’s great mr jem!
u should ask ur father-in-law to review both cars, shouldn’t u?
if he doesn’t want to, u should volunteer urself to do so ;)
hahaha… been married with her daughter (my luvly wife) juz 3 months ago lorrr… need more time to convince him to let me drive the inspira! a new one maaa… hehehe =)
oh, pliz upload some pictures of your father in law and inspira. share with us the link!
Oh yes! I’m totally with Inspira. Can you comment about it later? This is soo exciting! :)
white inspira can smoke black lancer anyday
Look at Tun Dr.M face impression, i dont think he is quite happy… Maybe due to rebadge Mitsu car again… :P
hahahaha..ya he looks sad..maybe tired of launching new cars..b4 this he also launch pug 207 sedan
no that his normal face
I think he is unhappy coz his crony T.Mahalel was not as bright as DSZ.
If not, DSZ sure got kicked out.
no..that is his regular face..
Give him a break, he just recovered from stroke.
Plus, later today, he went to KLCC to deliver a speech (which I attended =D ) to thousands of delegates from around the world. I gotta salute him for that spirit despite his age.
If only you guys can see the admiration the Japanese, Pakistanis, Africans, etc have for him, it’s a bit shameful if we Malaysians can’t seem to appreciate him at all.
He has my utmost respect. :)
me too! 110percent! there wont be any proton without him!!!
correction: Proton won’t get into such mess if he and his Shell boys did not run the place. Such an accomplishment team P30, team Re-badge. Try selling your Re-badge talent to other company.
A sad day for Lancer owner… by comparing the selling price…. was told 08′ Lancer from MYR95k (nego) about 4 months ago, but until last week you could get around MYR 83k-85k…….Moreover, looking at the Inspira highest spec launching price, the used Lancer seems like going depreciate some-more again.
Holy! Lauched already, bought my Gen2 too early :'(
Now what I need is the brochure with the stats. Proton Edar website not updated yet
the only hope for proton is rebadging and outsourcing
I wonder if the Inspira’s steering wheel feels the same as the Waja…
which is gud or not ? never drive a waja
I can see everyone on the stage looked embarrassed and sad…….its like relaunching of new Lancer…
hey paul,does inspira have the same gps navigator(lokatoo) like in the persona?
for those who do not interested in INSPIRA, get yourselves original LANCER..
do not basher up proton..
stupid moron.
haha
Why is inspira 2.0 more expensive than a lancer 2.0 in Langkawi? car price in Langkawi is the car’s real price(minus tax etc) right?
Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0GT – RM 71,800.00 Langkawi
Basically same car, 1 imported from Japan, 1 assembled in Malaysia, the one from Malaysia is more expensive. I don’t understand.
I think INSPIRA 2.0 in LANGKAWI CHEAPER THAN LANCER 2.0 in LANGKAWI..
proton masih kena bayar tax gak… so mmg la langkawi murah… inspira masih lg 90% Mitsubishi.. japan ker malaysia ker sama jer…assbly line sama.. Qc pun org dari Mitsubishi…
what tax?? the truth is:
Inspira price at Langkawi 2.0P> RM82,999 (refer to quotation at above photo)
Lancer Langkawi price 2.0> RM71,800
what tax?? the truth is:
Inspira price at Langkawi 2.0P> RM82,999 (refer to quotation at above photo)
Lancer Langkawi price 2.0> RM71,800 http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/showroom-lancer-langkawi.php
Please understand this…Your comparison is not fair. You should compare prices for both cars in Langkawi. So, get the Inspira’s price in Langkawi and compare again.
Tax for patriots, perhaps?
then proton spend RM 200 million in R&D for inspira for what?
of course it is supposed to improve on the lancer. how to recover the cost if they sell same price as lancer in langkawi ?
hehe…where states rm200 mil in rnd for inspira macha??
pandai2 jer ko tambah ajinomoto…;)
go and read the earlier post 1st.
Test Drive review plssssssssssssssss!!!
Look at their faces!! As if they are attending a funeral plus their embarassing look. I m 100% sure Dr. M must be cursing inside his heart
1.7 ton for a 2 liter? How bout the 1.8?
1300 kg for 1.8 mt
1325 kg for 1.8 cvt
1335 kg for 2.0 cvt
overall l x w x h…
w = width…not weight
so..ur 1.7 ton is actually refer to its width 1760mm or 176cm or 1.76 metre
At least,org2 malaysia dpt merasa spec yang berada dikereta mahal…..kini di protonk.
okla tu.
klu nk merase keta murah tp high spec..beli jelah used conti unit..but make sure the condition is ok..
Why is the logo on the steering wheel look embossed? These small details can make all the difference, right now it looks really cheap like low-spec car. I don’t think its that hard to put a logo on the steering wheel except that they might have to take into consideration what happens when the airbag comes out.
Yahooooooooooooooooooooooooo…. all the best proton.
the salesman said in a n event of accident , the inspira’s seat will move back automatically and the steering mechanism will be like cut off from the drive shaft to avoid serious injuries.. now that’s good news to complement the airbag system..talking about active and passive safety work hand in hand.
That’s good to hear. Just as long as those automatic things don’t spuriously activate during normal driving. Anyways, congrats Proton for the launch!
“In n event of accident , the inspira’s seat will move back automatically ”
Sorry my 4 2 cents Q.
What will happen to back seat passengers?
aiyoh.. not that much laa..just enough for the sake of minimizing the crash impact and of course the movement will take into account safety of the back passengers.. engineers are not lame person
bro,
i’m 1 of the supporter, but
1. i don’t believe proton’s SA words. only 30% of what they say boleh pakai. don’t get me wrong, SA ok? not engineers. they’re engineers even the malay girl in tudung impressed me like hell with her knowledge, terms she used, answering questions from us… superb dude! 2000% earned my respect man (Open Day aug 2008, Shah Alam). but SA hancur. temberang banyak. facts masuk longkang.
2. what is the name of that technology? never been heard of
3. how on earth the driver/left pax seat wanna move behind abit… if not by some sort of motor or pyrotechnic launcher?
4. will a sudden rear-moving movement of that seat (say by 1cm? 2cm? 3cm?) help the driver/occupant with less impact? doesn’t make sense la kawan. somemore that oppose the reaction of the airbag. then lengthening the distance from the airbag, to the face, which in result will cause neck lagi patah. doesn’t make sense la bro.
5. may be something that i always miss from merce, volvo articles?
6. tak masuk akai. SA mana yang bagitau ni?
wah…like jet fighter’s ejector seat kah? got auto emergency lights like the exora?
It not the seat, but the seatbelt lah.
A lot of cars have these safety features. Nothing new in the market.
If not mistaken P2 Myvi & Alza also have this function… Not only the steering will drop down, the whole engine bay & gearbox will also drop down to prevent the parts from flying into the driver cabin… It’s kinda normal for modern cars nowadays..
People now are talking about air-bags, Electronic Stability control, ABS & the latest to pre-prevent front collision like Merc active safety or Volvo’s.. I hope that P1 & P2 can revice their safety standart like having ESC, ABS & Air-bags as standart. Fitted with all the local cars, i can gurantee that less accident & peoples life will gone. Car insurance may also go down if think for long gain… About the cost, if u all go do some research, actually all these technology are dirt cheap now and only the car manufacturer want to earn more from us.. Just google it and u will know..
Proton will have ESC in their cars very soon..don’t worry
I really hope you are right. Judging by the number of accidents involving lost of control during high speed overtaking and swerving, having ESC might reduce fatalities considerably. Ask the guys from MIROS.
I hope we don’t have to wait for too long.
by next 2 weeks there will be a lot of accessory car dealer selling Mitsubishi bumperand emblems. when we see original Mitsubishi car , ppl will tell”nice modifications of your inspiration,where u done it?”
Hmmm… Congratulation to Proton for new launch…
Sincerely from my deep heart… welcome back to old history proton saga & now inspira.. re-badge model. Wondering why proton cannot stand by own … never change for proton n Malaysia… Consumer have a sweet dream… after this you can hear about same problem… QUALITY…
Last word…WAKE UP PROTON & DON’T DREAM FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
you wake up.. your raised issue is outdated..
teringat aku kat Kia Karens dan Kia Carnival yg harganya terbabas jatuh sgt2 bila Naza Ria dan Naza Citra launching.. kasihan nasib si Lancer.. tak dapek nak nolong eh
the only constructive comment is about the rim design
who is the mothafucka doing that? i mean, going about with the resources of proton these days, the rim MUST be better than that!
but of course u can get it change onto some other aftermarket rims. but then why not design one that WILL be loved my most of the buyers? or like me, not buying people?
if the Inspira’s rim design is already nice, then Proton is not supporting the local auto accessories/rims/tyre industries…. that would not be so nice, wouldn’t it?
It’s a chain effect, so you should think of the bigger picture… and just appreciate the std rims for what it is laahhh…
because it is ready to be changed
5 lugs wheels can have many 3rd party wheel options
I was among the few priviledged ones who got to sit in and see the inspira last week, before launch. I’ve driven the lancer before, and believe me if you pop the hood of both cars and compare, it’s a copy and paste job of everything under the hood, except for the proton badge. Performance of engine, expect it to be exactly like the lancer. The ‘feel’ inside the car though, believe it or not, I would pick the Inspira. Honestly, if both the Lancer and the Inspira were the same price, it would STILL be a tough decision to make!
Mitsu didnt allow Proton to touch the engine & and the transmission. SO, no surprise if the cars’ performances are similar.
If you have driven a Proton and love a Proton, the ‘feel’ will be just like a Proton.
I don’t think you’ll feel like driving a Jap/Korean/Conti, those are totally different feeling…
wait till proton cars smoke them especially at corners, lol
Agreed, even a Proton Saga/Gen2 can a smoke a lot of cars, and they are still a very proud Proton owner in M’sia, yes only in M’sia.
even savvy can smoke a lot of cars at corner.
yeah..i used to smoke a lot of cars at corner..l use savvy =p
aiyooo!! rebadge car also need to do some official launch ar? waste of money
for advertisement lorr….otherwise u also wouldnt know when the car is really ready for sale….
I love the idea of the way they launch this car!
Cheaper than expected..n wow..it’s so tempting..
~PROTON RIDE & HANDLING~ what happen to LOTUS?
HUH.. FIRST BATCH BUYER SURE LUCKY TO GET “CONTINENTAL CAR” WITH SUPERB HANDLING…
LANCER OWNER & PDRM’s HELANG LEBUHRAYA can easily get cheaper spare parts!! GO! GO!
ONE MORE THING.. Proton Persona is not “KING OF THE HIGHWAY” anymore.. heheh..
Was persona the King ah? didnt knew that. lol
since when lancer become conti car?
same RIDE & HANDLING from lotus but just change name to PROTON. so now, proton step forward n own 100% of this technology… nice move proton..
(aku dah beli alza, pasni blh beli inspira plak)
It’s called Protus handling. hahaha
Or Loton handling!
persona?? king?….wat happen to all ferraris and lambos?
whenever you see a supercar like ferrari’s,or nissan GTR,you can always see a “supercar wannabe” like proton wira,persona,gen 2 with big loud annoying exhaust and funny aircraft wings at the back tailgating them……
thats why they “claim” that they are the king of the highway…….
and now the “inspira”……whoa,can see more highway nuisance…..
aiyah!! since when persona is the king of the highway?? never heard about it..
what a fugly design!!
then go and apply work with proton.. ask them to make you the lead designer..tell them you are the greatest designer of all time, tell them you can make the inspira look like Audi or Zonda, tell them you can make design that EVERYONE love… tell them also that they need to quit their job and you should rule proton and give it a new name.. like Yamseng cars with lotus handling!
just make ur own design la… & try tu jual pada sesaper… tengok… nak kena kutuk ker kena maki… stupid comment… macam pandai jer…
It’s weird…on one hand people say Proton didnt do anything, and on the other, people say the design is ugly….
If Proton didnt do anything, wouldnt that mean that the ugliness is actually inherited from Lancer…
(sajer bakar , jgn marah)
Paul, why is it heavy than mitsu GT 2.0? its 1730kgs for the inspira and 1385kgs for the 2.0 GT. Im sure it will effect the fuel consumption. Is proton having to many cheap plastics which are heavy?
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/showroom-lancer-specifications.php
for your reference
u should use this reference
http://www.protoninspira.com/brochure_21102010.pdf
that weight we usually c on specs is KERB WEIGHT. this one on the chassis plate is the mass weight..
1300 kg for 1.8 mt
1325 kg for 1.8 cvt
1335 kg for 2.0 cvt
overall l x w x h…
w = width…not weight
ur 1730kgs supposely 1730mm or 173cm or 1.73metre of its overall external width from right to left door
ur 1385kgs actually 1385mm or 138.5cm or 1.385metre of its overall internal width from right to left side of the car
1335 kg for 2.0 cvt, 0 ~ 100kmh = 10.5 sec. not impressive at all. I’ld love to see at least 9.5 sec. for 150bhp, 197nm and 1335kg.
probably coz they use cheaper metal, maybe GT use good lightweight metal… what happened to the so called Lotus ride and handling? I think Lotus is all about light weight and good handling…
or maybe because proton add more soundproffing, as most of us know lancer NVH isn’t exactly top notch
or maybe because proton add more soundproofing…as most of us know lancer NVH isn’t exactly top notch
Proton use Lotus technology chassis. Lighter & stronger than lancer. hehe.
no la. its kerb weight is between 1300kg to 1335kg. look at the brochure…
1730 kgs for inspira ? hmmm…..where on earth u get such info?
kerb weight for inspira 2.0 is 1335 kg la
http://paultan.org/photo/zp-core/i.php?a=proton-inspira-launch&i=IMG_1086.jpg&s=thumb
as compared to mitsu lancer, is 1385 kg (kerb weight )
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/showroom-lancer-specifications.php
Lancer is also having same weight la.
that’s not the kerb weight la. that’s the max permissible static weight that could be supported by the axle.
Vnoz,
I think there is a mistake there somewhere. That person in charge ought to get fired! 1.7 tonne car usually in the same segment like BMW 7 series, S Class, Audi A8. Even my PV6 only weigh 1.3 ton.
How come Inspira 1.8CVT is heavier than normal 2.0 car. Ada banyak lesung batu ker? haha
The proton is actually launching the Mitsubishi Lancer here today, only remove the Mitsubishi logo and put in Proton Tiger logo only, after that said: This is a car, Malaysia National Car, copy and paste again, after 25 years, Why not continue design a new car like Waja, Savvy, Exora, Satria, New Saga & Persona? especially the satria design is so impress, why need to copy and paste again, really disappointed. If the Mitsubishi not allowed proton to “Touch” the engine, gear box and ECU unit, will proton think is it acceptable? what is the advisor of proton reaction?
There are other cars in development (by Proton). Funds are being channeled for their R&D. So, you can wait for them and buy.
Inspira is for a small market only. They are not going to implement this rebadge thing 100% for all cars in the future. They are not going to transform into P2. They are only trying to make easy money for this one, so let them be.
With the volume shown in http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll143/skcheng/septreport.jpg , Satria Neo is probably one of the money-losing models of Proton. To make the effort spent on the models worthwhile, Proton probably has to keep selling them for many years, which in turn is not good for the image of the company.
as neo owner, i dont mind if 5 or 6 years from now, proton still producing neo LOL… bacause that would mean more spare part available as i plan to keep this baby for a LONG time…
hmmmm, that wouldn’t matter much..i’ve noticed that some proton cars never seem to look old..take waja for example, its already 10 years now and the it still looks pretty descent on the eyes =)
As a neo owner, please kill me before replacing my neo with a myvi. No offence to myvi owners, myvi is an excellent car and all but once you have driven a neo around the corner… 10 years stuck this also I don’t mind!
1.6 manual cps owner.
dude we’re already past this argument…if you read paul’s post before you will understand..let me remember you the quote from some forum
“Rebadging is also widely practiced by a number of large car manufacturers around the world. The Australian Holden is basically a rebadged Ford or Chevy, Chrysler, Skoda, Seat, and many other marque’s also share their badge with no repercussions whatsoever, no parliamentary debate, no public outcry, no such drama at all…, because the idea makes sense, any idea that saves money and time makes sense.”
Few years ago, Proton said they are in 2nd generation when they launch Gen2 where they design & produced car from scratch. After 25 years, they back to square one, rebadge other car. How long rakyat have to protect them using AP & tax? They can even make their own car. Hm..
Few years ago, Proton said they are in 2nd generation when they launch Gen2 where they design & produced car from scratch. They will move forward. Where their promised? After 25 years, they back to square one, rebadge other car. How long rakyat have to protect them using AP & tax? They cant even make their own car. Hm..
Proton knows with other car makers are offering their high end cars (such as cruze, forte) at a more competitively decent price and lower interest rate, they just can’t compete if they wish to sell a high end car developed by proton at similar high price of equal quality because no matter what proton says those people like you are not still not convinced and continue bashing.
A very sad day for mitsubishi lancer owners. How much do you all think the secondhand price of mit lancer 2010 will be?
Does Skoda, Holden and all the other car manufacturers that do rebadging get preferential tax treatment? The answer is NO. So do not give the cock and bull argument about OTHER manufacturers. Proton is doing what it is doing only to line its pocket and the pocket of its shareholders at the expense of the public.
If Proton stands on its own two feet, then you can compare it with other manufacturers. Until then…
Dude, in Australia, Holden is a private entity, meaning they use their own funds. In PROTON, we have public funds, the tax WE pay, used.
Proton is also a private entity. The only help it gets from the G is tax structure and industry protection (which I believe we could be better off without). I don’t think they directly get funds from G.
Oh for god’s sake. Holden rebadges cars from an associated car company. Skoda does it for the same reason. Skoda is part of the VW Group and Holden is part of GM. This is called platform and component sharing.
Does Proton currently owned by Mitsubishi? No.
So please stop using the crap excuse of other car manufacturers “rebadging” cars to justify what Proton is doing now.
vee,
holden is part of GM because holden almost bungkus la. u know what is bungkus? bankrupt. same goes to skoda. so in order to maintain their name (holden is the proud country brand of australia (useless white)) so they willingly turn themselves on their four and get ****ed at the rear end (read: bought) by GM & VW, and then whoring themselves again using Chevrolet cars rebadging and VW technologies into skoda.
none of their cars ar theirs anymore, except for Commodores, which are already approaching 10 years. now holden are selling what? what we have Cruze around the world, and they call it Holden Cruze. Captiva… etc.
but Proton not willing to be done that way. Almost. sheets by T.Mahaleel yes, Proton almost end up the same. I’m not totally Proton supporters. but it’s part of malaysia. i was so proud to see 1985 proton saga 1.3s or 1.5s with two side-mirrors (1.3s only had one) parked in front of my house then, was so jakun/batak to see proton with its first 1.5i in 1987 (first proton with auto-tranny). it was something u know.
we’re not that patriotic la. but actually deep in our heart, we are. we love our country. but we don’t show it. we don’t fully love proton. but we’ll sad if so happen one day we see proton close down. we Asian la. we don’t show our love. i never showed my love to my late dad. he never showed his love to me. but why when he passed away i cried for three days non-stop? i was still crying for one month every night. but i never hug him when he was alive. why?
because we’re just Asian. don’t u think we won’t get mad if Thailand sends 1 missile to KL, KLCC fall to the ground, 10,000 people die, do you think Malay, Chinese and Indian will just act cool after that?
or even if Singapore suddenly fire one laser-photon beam to KL, even just to Batu Cave, start one small tension between two countries, don’t you think we wont get united and defend our city and country? i don’t think so.’
so Proton is not owned by Mitsubishi. that is why these sort of collaboration takes place. latest they are taking Exora to be badged as Mitsu.
If Im not mistaken Proton manage to convince Mitsu using their own ECU..
too many repetitive similar comments and questions here
had been commented and answered so many times
boring!
u first time read PaulTan ar?
I got the privilege to view the Inspira 1.8 version and definitely slammed the door. Verdict pretty Japanese feeling for the front doors, not so for rear door. Original Lancer better than 1.8 interior/door panel BUT the 2.0 variant is the choice for those in Vios TRD/City E spec market.
Unless you after manual tranny the 2.0 is best for my money.
Paul, is 2.0 got similar roof lining like those found in 1.8? I’m not into that material (very similar found in Civic 1.8 whereas 2.0 Civic has better fabric roof lining).
Even though Inspira sports smaller tires BUT it’s good for tire replacement later though Lancer GT has sportier rims.
PAULTAN:
Please give us R&H review. This is the BEST Proton car ever with Vios-City price tag. Kudos Proton.
whats this with slamming the door? slamming door can tell how super a car is?
have you seen in a car showroom people doing that all the time? it is really annoying.
TEST DRIVE LA.
What a low IQ people, judging a car by slamming the door. My BMW doors are so lousy sound, so BMW car is as bad as proton. WTF!!!
The way a car door closes tells a lot about the inherent quality of the materials used to make the door and the seals.
Would you like to have an Inspira with doors that close like a Viva’s or one with doors that close like a VW Passat?
no way inspira doors are as light as myvi, city or vios
to compare it , old waja doors are much heavier than those cars
no need to compare it with inspira
yeah..even Audi take years to do the research on it..
WTFFF!!!! come on laa this car deserves better rim design than thiss……agree kill that designer…what a shame..Proton’s Rim always ugly, looks flat, nothing special…
Change the rims la..if u like it keep it.if u dont like it just buy new rims..nuff said..
Well I have to say well done Proton. I believe you took the right path in rebadging & perfecting the Lancer (all the good stuff about the Lancer plus an improvement in ride & handling). Fit & Finish of this model is by far Proton’s best. The biggest highlight for me is Proton’s first higher end sound system ever. Finally six speakers (four loudspeakers, two tweeters) and to top it all a Arakmys system that enhances sound, creates surround sound and gives you the impression of additional virtual/phantom speakers.
Good Job, all the best
old batch of waja also have six speakers la , haih
Do not bash. have some dignity. Money can buy, choice is yours. If not just buy Mybeast or bibah.
I dont know about others, but i feel that the floor mat looks a bit weird (ugly) with rough sponge like surface. There are other better looking options in the market.
Paul, what type of finishing is that for the dashboard which looks like laminated ones? It looks a bit out of place (ugly)? I think it would look better if no patterns design are used or CF finishing (but this is too expensive i guess).
Bro! then I think u BETTER replace the floor mat with the carpet from Gulatis’ in Jalan TAR…
I looked at the launch video. The part where they showed the Inspira body parts taken out from the frame looks like those “tikam” plastic robots that I used to buy when I was a kid.
hahaha…that’s the good old days….main tikam!
Nice car. But I hope all the manufactory fiber and PU shop will busy produce LAncer or EVO Bumper. Good Luck Proton.
No lah. Waiting for Powerzone to come out with exhaust header and new cams!
1.8 manual modifite sure very shock.. automatic 2.0 gearbox weak like shyt
Guys….u have to remember…Mitsu Lancer will always be a Mitsu and Proton Inspira will always be a Proton….and Inspira is not a cheaper Lancer as it uses PROTON parts and not Mistu parts like what the Mitsu Lancer owners are using. I’m personally sick at seeing people comparing 2 very different cars.
Come back to this forum after 3 years to see which car goes to the workshop more often then u will know the difference between the 2.
And no I’m not a Mistu fanboy. Driving a Honda instead so I’m looking @ it from a neutral point of view.
Exactly! It’s like the German came up with Adidas and we Malaysian are proud because we have Asadi. Just because it’s cheaper people think they are getting a lower price Lancer. These people are so excited not because Proton is capable to produce a quality car but because Inspira is a similar car to a quality Lancer. They seem to think supporting anything local is patriotic. Well, it’s not! This is rebadge / copy or call it whatever you want. Until one day Proton could come up with something quality by themselves, I cannot say I’m proud of Proton.
bodohnya kau ni. Aduhhh. How can u compare that to Adidas and Asadi ? Oh my…
This is kinda funny and stupid…
Adidas = Lancer
Asadi = Inspira
Panasonic = Lancer
Pansonic = Inspira
y no gal model???
all the money already finished spent in developing the car and paying Mitsu a whole lot copious amount of money……so they got to make do without any chicks….hiring chicks for car launch these days is like the cost of the 4 tyres….hahaha
actually they replaced it with four dudes. hehe..
today even the basher berdebar debar….hehehehe
Oh yeah baby its a 10s on manual! Weighs 1.3 tonnes. 2 DIN Head Units will give upgrade possibilities to some good Pioneer kit. Downloaded from the microsite (it takes ages to download). Gotta go see it at a dealer
Good for those who bought it. Better buy now before Proton shifts to more local content in the coming months. Good Buy!!
hahaha…many people feel this way…but why? local content is not good kah? the bumper is local content…the suspension is local content…the ride and handling is local content…take the local content out…you are left with…hmmm…the Lancer…hahaha…looks like some ppl like the proton price…but not proton parts…
This is the best picture of inspira so far -> http://assets6.paultan.org/zenphoto/cache/proton-inspira-launch/img_3337_770.jpg
this is where the 20% local component plug out from……
Proton Inspira 2.0 CVT – RM91,999
Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0GT – RM71,800.00 (duty free and excluding 10% sales tax)
Why is the price for Inspira still so high???
Tax. You didn’t deduct excise tax from the Inspira price. Not exactly apple to apple comparison now is it?
cause proton need to earn more ma..
local car also taxed….
1.8 = 37.5%
2.0 = 45 %
sales tax 10%
why dont u try and calculate now??
inspira is cheaper….
of course la inspira is cheaper…it is assembled here…lancer is a cbu model imported from japan
some ppl was telling me. 80k for a proton ? i replied. yes . i’m rich enough to pay 80k for a proton ! so?
being rich enuf is not the problem…u also have to be dumb enuf…hahaha…ur money…ur sukalah…
so you will regret 3 years later. wakakakakakka. just like perdana owner.
wahhh…u can predict the future aaa..then predict for me the nombor ramalan la hahahha
My previoud PErdnana gear box totally spoiled at 90KKM, ask Eon, they said it need RM21K for a new part plus installation ( 2 days). What a joke…………
It is more expensive than Merc and BMW. The car has a chasis design problem and keep shaking above 110 km/hr. Worse if it reach 140km/hr…. Car sold at RM 32K after 4 years.
so, you got rob in broad day light, lor!!
when to see the 1.8 CVT model… very disappointing..
quality like a saga especially the fabric seats too soft like not filling.
in short not worth the price. Kia forte is better. look at how many awards it has achieved compared to ori lancer.
try to imagine this proton lancer with lower quality. Decide wisely not smartly.
naza salesman perhaps!
yes true!
Huh? Tot all the Proton showroom is showing the 2.0 variant which is leather only??
I view it at 2 different Ipoh showrooms. Both are having 1.8 E (CVT)
one red and the other one is silver(Its looks so much better than the red)
However, both car seats are really too soft. Long run, i think your seats will create a butt memory image on them :P
I’m not a naza salesman. I’m just like you all who anticipated for value for money car…..
Just comparing what’s on the market…..
KIA forte is one example….
If you’re big fan of the twist beam rear axle and not Inspira’s rear multilink, why not? The Forte has this – same as Saga.
I’m a big fan of the 6 airbags & ESC in the Forte rather than a multilink rear suspension. Safety first…
good handling also contribute to safety.
typically, multilink susp. provides good handling.
nicely tuned susp. works better.
frankly, i dun trust safety features that involved with electronic gadgets (esc. & airbags etc.)
Correct..good handling also contribute to safety. A nicely tuned torsion beam or so called the twist beam rear axle will also perform as good as the multilink in term of handling. With the assist of additional safety features (6 airbags/ESC), it will provide a more comprehensive car in term of safety. If i were given a choice to choose between 2 cars, 1 car with a multilink+2 airbags+no ESC & the other car with 6airbags+ESC+torsion beam, i will simply choose the latter anytime, anyday…
Correct..good handling also contribute to safety. A nicely tuned torsion beam or so called the twist beam rear axle will also perform as good as the multilink in term of handling. With the assist of additional safety features (6 airbags/ESC), it will provide a more comprehensive car in term of safety. If i were given a choice to choose between 2 cars, 1 car with a multilink+2 airbags+no ESC & the other car with 6airbags+ESC+torsion beam, i will simply choose the latter anytime, anyday…
U wont trust the the safety features with electronic gadgets until the system itself kicked in & save your life..trust me. I’ve gone thru it
Safety is the hand of people that handle the steerings… be it you or other drivers…
In term of safety. I can say Mitsu can go back…
safety is not just rely on how many bags you have, how many acronym the car associates with…
If the fundamental, the chassis of the car strong enough… the shear flow of the structure well designed, the twist and bending is rigid enough… you will not need
so much safety assistance…
If not mistaken Forte safety standart is even higher compare to the bigger Proton Lancer/Inspier..
They have even won IIHS Top safety awards… Compare to Mitsubishi? If not mistaken, Mitsubishi in Europe & US also have ESP & more air-bags compare to our market…
So if add on all the safety standart that Forte offer in Malaysia, it have win over Lancer hands down! The only thing people will buy Lancer/Inspier is becoz it is Japs car and not a Korean car. But for sure, the Korean are gainning now! By the way, worldwide sales for Mitsu is not selling as well compare to Koreans cars also..
little fire… i am saying that, if the basic structure of the car not strong enough, it is no use if you has many bags and acronyms… because the car itself will fail to protect is occupant…
takes example of rally car… it is added with roll cage, re-inforcement bar.. so, the car will be strong and safe without airbags and all those safety assist…
If a general cars can be as strong as the rally car… all those safety assist is not needed…
Proton better try their best to sell this car. When the new Civic or Avante coming next year they gonna have a tougher competition. They should include free service for 2/3 years to boost more sales.
BTW, hope all the best for them.
Proton Is The Best… Looking Smart Inspira….
nice car..tempting price indeed..but wondering whether the mitsu gearbox can withstand our hot wheather as perdana gearbox also supplied from mitsu…
Eveb current Lancer have complaint about their gearbox.
CVT overheat after extended high speed driving as experienced by journalists during the test drive session of Lancer GT. But there’s a remedy if you know the right CVT fluid to use. The usual CVT fluid simply won’t do.
CVT problem was fixed with additional cooling courtesy of Proton
Since when do Proton have ‘CVT gearbox’ in their stable as reference to address problems and become expert in it? Hogwash, they can’t even properly fix ECU problem for the face-lifted Persona. Even Honda pulls off CVT from City as a solution (claiming that CVT does not suit with typical Asian way of driving…sound sarcastic enough about how we drive here).
that’s why Mitsu Lancer has a oil cooler for the gearbox….i’ve driven non stop from KL to Penang at 160Km/H without any problem
93k proton car? hahahahahahah
U must b a current Mitsu Lancer owner huh?
92K for 2.0 Inspira that better features compare to 2.0 Lancer.
+ LOTUS Ride & Handling
+ Free servicing + parts 2 years
– Audio system no USB port
– Small rim 16 instead of 18″
The leaflet only state Proton ride and comfort… not lotus.. frankly the previous rumours of Proton tuning the suspension was a hoax as the SA told me not change.. either she don’t know and simply say… or it didn’t happen..
uninspired!
Nice… Superb.. Brilliant… Awesome..
From the browser i can see its equipped with a key less entry. Is it true? Cos i still can see the engine can only be start by using a normal key? so what does the key less entry means?
Every new car has keyless entry, even B-Line Protons. It’s the alarm button you press to unlock the car…
it is brochure la bro..
browser is something you find in internet you facing right now…
it means the remote
Keyless entry in Malaysia = remote. That means even a Viva has keyless entry :)
Keyless entry everywhere else in the world = the setup you see on the Nissan Latio, Suzuki Swift and Kia Forte.
It’s keyless entry & start. There is also a push start system. Keyless entry is just a remote lock/unlock.
will proton cut and paste the proton logo in the Mitsubishi lancer sportback?
looking to buy but worry will happen again.save play go for golf tsi.haha.
imo, lancer sportsback looks funny.
even polo looks “balanced”. rabbit of course looks good :)
We’ll soon see lots of Inspiralution on the road. With the spare cash from the savings I believe would-be owners already have this plan in mind.
Value for money…
1.5 Honda City priced 91K and 2.0 Proton Inspira priced 92K
which one is stupid choice?
if just a straight comparison…i take the inspira…both CKDs mah…and since inspira is 80% Lancer…still okay lah…some more bigger engine…hehehe
None actually, depends on what you’re looking for in a car…
City may be smaller but over the years, there will be savings on petrol.
CVT……..Continually Very Teruk….what lah…extra cooling, etc…….maybe not designed for local conditions?
Some people don’t like to drive a bigger car. some just don’t like the brand…….as long as owner is satisfied.
Pakatan Rakyat, there is no stupid choice here, dont act like a loser in trying to show something that is not viable. It is preference of buyer who has their preference in terms of branding and specification.
Consumer choice with RM100K range as Inspira..
1) Mitsu Lancer – Original of Inspira…
2) Honda Civic Hybrid – 1.3 engine with fuel safe capability
3) Toyota Vios – Purely brand power
4) Honda City – Overseas brand power also
5) Mazda2 – Overseas less brand power
6) 04 BMW 318 – conti car power
7) 06 Toyota Camry – comfort car for sure
8) 06 Accord – once car of the year
9) 02 Merc C200 – dream car once…
kia forte? peugeot 308 turbo?
hahaha later have Inspira GT CLub~ wakkaka.. can fight with lancer gt club.. ayooyoo…~ dengar cite mitsu & proton make a deal change idea.. mitsu take a persona n proton take a lancer….. ? betul ke??
itu baru proposal.. takdak apa2 agreement lagilah.. jangan dok canang2 dulu.. nanti kena boo
Mitsu take Persona and Exora to rebadged for their niche market.. but not so sure about these or just cerita dongeng.
ask yourself
PR is always do the dongeng stuffs whaaaat haha
btw
thumbs up for inspira!
YEss Inspira is very good value for money in Bolehland.
Off topic: At least PR(Price Reduce) is most better than BN(Barang Naik.. corruptions, murderer, law cheater)
Off off topic: LOL! PR is better? Aiyoo…both are same!
LOL… true that tiadaid…LOL
Other proposed areas that Mitsubishi and Proton are in discussions about include the rebadging of the Persona and the 2009 Proton MPV as a Mitsubishi in certain markets and the joint development of an A-segment hatchback (a new Savvy-sized vehicle), but when contacted by this blog, sources in Proton indicated these additional projects are at best only in discussion stages only, and not something confirmed.
http://paultan.org/2008/12/05/next-generation-proton-waja-to-be-based-on-the-mitsubishi-lancer-platform/
Same same club lah.
Cheaper than Perdana.
Proton ambil lancer mitsu ambil exora katanya
Boleh caya ke? Apa kah hal mit nak kereta P1…kete diaorang lagi bagus!
Another 3rd class mentality spotted!
just came back frm proton showroom in bangi…. heard tat got changes for OTR price… reduce by RM4k… tats mean for 2.0 OTR s/b RM90k++ i/o RM94k++ ….not sure bout this, hv to confirm again.. any salesman to confirm this?
What u saying man? I dont understand. Whats the latest price for the 1.8 and 2.0A now?
zouk is right, dude….
the black part at the bottom of the rear bumper…why black? looks really odd…
sport rims looks sux
other than that, awesomeness is everywhere… hehe
i wud choose 1.8 manual!
Let say want to buy Inspira 2.0 CVT = RM91,999..
10% downpayment…let say RM10,000
balance RM82,000
take 9 year loan with interest let say 3.5% = +- RM 998.43/month…
fuh..
buy or not to buy… 2010+9 years = 2019 baru habis bayar..heheh
buy or not..buy or not..buy or not…
add another RM10k get Civic Hybrid… haish.. buy or not ahh…?
2012 Persona R…
then Exora Hybrid…
then…buy or not?
got money meh? tarak… so SHUT UP!! ahahaha
Civic hybrid are not interesting though..its uncles cars… go get a 2.0 civic or type r instead..thats the real car!!! hehe
bro, which bank u get the interest proton 9 years 3.5%? i thought it will be 3.9-4.1 depend on bank..
my neighbor must be crying louder…..
mine too
I’ve an advice to all Lancer owner out there…….Please park your car wisely….don’t simply park unless there is people around….or you might lose your accessories….
why? i thot all the inspira supporters are proud of proton…and this proton product…
Not exactly. You can see countless of Wajalution and Wiralution… Please tell me they are pro-proton
i seriously prefer it to be called WaLan rather than Inspira… It’s like Wa Lan Eh !!!
AH BENG’S ADVERTISMENT:-
1. FRONT HOOD AND BUMPERS= rm1500
2. PAINT JOB =RM1400 (STRIPE IS FREE)
3.INSPIRA EMBLEM CHANGE TO EVO 10 = RM 100
4. TIGER EMBLEM CHANGE TO 3DIAMONDS=RM100
AND WITH 2.0 VERSION OF INSPIRA , IT WILL BE BETTER THAN MITSU 2.0 ITSELF.
ANYONE ELSE WANT TO ADD ANY EXTRA MODIFICATION??
MUST ADD ONE MORE LINE :
AFTER MODIFY; NO MORE WARRANTY !!
only extrior.. want scare warranty what.. u dont touch inside like engine, sure no problem.
good for proton … sure got a lot money …
Managed to meng”ular” from office & went straight to showroom. I’d say for my size, 95kg & 1.82m, Inspira will accomodate u just nicely. I sat at the bact seat & my head was only 1/2 inch from the “ceiling” which is quite ok compared to T&H&F&M (Toyota/Honda/Ford/Mazda).
Interest rate, from Affin Bank :
5 years = 3.3%
7 years = 3.4%
9 years = 3.5%
Surprisingly, the tyre size & pattern is not as the same as was shown in the automotive websites before. It is 16″ tyre & looks pretty solid & fierce.
Well done Proton!!!
Well done Proton for what??? rebadging other brand’s model? please be serious man…
Did Paul Tan miss the link?
I see nothing in the links…
“…Suspension tuning also differs from the Lancer, as detailed in two rounds of preview tests we did. Click here and here to read them…” (End of 4th paragraph)
Wonder after the lauch what would be the waiting period now … XP
i’ll wait for mc version , change in interior colour scheme maybe with lighter colours, including on leather seats, chrome door handles, bigger new rims, twin tail pipes and colour logo on steeering, how much is it?
tis is pretty good car, price wise! get it!
facer- fake lancer owners rejoice…….. malaysia boleh….tipu!
its still the same look in rear…through a little different from normal lancer…but cheaper than lancer…
awesome!!
don know why ppl will get so excited bout this car, come on, its not a totally new model, its just a old model car that been used by other company for years then rebadged as proton and sell as new model in proton line, its juz like celebrating a successfully copied others’ design, proton keep saying rebadging is a common trend in the industry, but come on, rebadged car wont be sold in the same market that the original model is been selling, its so unfair to those lancer owner who spent so much for a mitsu brand, now become cheapskate brand, sigh, somemore ppl still so mad bout this so called new model of proton, whats so proud of?man, im so ashamed!!
Peoples can buy Lancer with Proton brand with just 92K OTR cost + free parts/servicing for 2 years.. that’s not excited you?? maybe you one of Lancer pity owner or totally basher.. :D
i wud agree on PR…
bcos PR is excellent in story telling LOL
hahaha funny comment :D
excuse me Pakatan Rakyat, playing something cheap on money wont excite me, im talking bout quality, self innovation, creative, national pride, and of course original spirit, its juz like i wont be excited and proud if malaysian football team have won the match but 90% of the players are not malaysian=’reverse scenario’, if all malaysian are juz focusing on monetary issues=cheapskate stuffs+non improving organisation fooling around, then im wondering how malaysia as a nation will improve.
oh ya btw, im not an owner of lancer, im driving an A4, sorry!!
Seriously, what is wrong with consumer be given a choice in that market, Proton is not forcing you to buy, If you read (If you really read the blog entry) they already explain the rational of re-badge-ing this car.
If you really are driving A4 I dont think you will bother reading all the comment here and bash proton. Go see the new entry on Renault Megane RS that has been lauch few days back.
salamander, i think u are juz another barbarian who doesnt get proper education, everyone deserve rights to voice out their opions, nothing to do with im driving an A4, i still can voice out my opinion even if proton doesnt force me to buy, everyone will say ”go read the blog that explain the rational”, come on, how come these ppl juz simply believe wats told by others?arent they dont have a good brain to think?another thing i don understand is why u said i don bother to read coz im driving A4?pls tell me wats the rational?im concerned coz this is a national car maker man!!i think u have the minority complex issue man.
National car cannot improve with those bunch of blind supporter who has no brain to think. Why a luxury car driver cant read the comment here? This bunch of rotten brain professional can only view thing at one angle, they shall work for marketing department for our national car and spend their time to sell their replica Mitsu at oversea. I wnat to see how much achievement they are going to get.
Rebadge is taking other products and put your name into it. Copycat is taking other product, make a copy and paste it then put your name into it. Wat is the diff of rebadge and copying ? THe barbarian cannot understand
I support your comment on national car and those stupid no brain blind supporter still cant see the bigger picture. But you do not need to show your pride of being an A4 owner. They are many luxury car owners here as well.
different people has different standard, so we cannot accuse other for taking pride of something what we do not agreed…
Dr M go launched 207 you know he is either changed to NAZAship or just no eye see of this anymore..
hey… you should talk to Perodua first… because they have some on the road and more in the stable…
this inspira case is juz like ”im driving a proton wira, but i wanna paint it into ferrari red, put on 20 inches rims, change water boiling mufflers, change body kits, and rebadge it as Ferrari, then telling the world ” hey, take a look!!im driving a ferrari-like-car coz im dreaming to drive a ferrari but i know im not able to do so, but now im so excited coz i can afford one now!!”
-these kinda ppl wont improve at all!!!!!
Good buy I’d say!
Now we can see more ‘Lancer’ than CIvic on the road :D
better wait for CR-Z
I notice power output from 2.0 Proton Inspira is lesser than 2.0 LGT. Perhaps MMC has detune Inspira.
The Malaysian Insider has this headline “Proton cuts Inspira price, claims it is not a Lancer”
joe_public say…but it looks like a Lancer…feels like a Lancer…has parts of a Lancer…but its not a Lancer kah?….hahaha…
Lingam strikes again…the Lancer has been Lingamised to be an Inspira…
feels like a lancer? if u meant that by the way it handles.. you’re off the par dude
joe_public,
I think we need to ban the Malaysian Insider readers from making comments in paultan as well…
why must ban people just becos they read Malaysian Insider? hahahaha. when u see people don’t agree then u ban them kah?
if you think people shouldn’t quote other websites, then you may have to ban many people
come on lah, this is a moderated discussion dont just ban only ppl who u dont agree with.
CORRECT, CORRECT, CORRECT ! ! ! :)
No point for Proton to differentiate itself from Lancer…..most buyers of this car will modify back to mitsubishi evo 10 look.
Bodykits manufacturers will be very happy.
bagus!
CHEAPER LANCER!!
LULZ WHUT 91K PRICE NEARLY LANCER GT
RM30k different is still ‘near’? wow…
Langkawi Prices
* Proton Inspira 1.8 M/T – RM71,999
* Proton Inspira 1.8 CVT – RM75,999
* Proton Inspira 2.0 CVT – RM82,999
hmmmm..must be somethin wrong with the pricing when a CBU lancer GT priced at 71k over there
good luck Proton~!
Hey Paul,
Any photos of how the standard version body looks like or is it the same as high line?Thanks,
I’m totally upset with proton. u guys were established for 25 years but still can’t design car with your own taste. why must copied from well established in market car with minimal changes? even wira design were much more better compare to inspira which both were copied from lancer but that was 17 years ago. at that time we still didnt have technologies and sufficient knowledges. are you guys now admit the gen2 and persona were total failure? you guys are car maker not car tuner. don’t spoil things already perfect. proton would always be proton and never be like what mitsubishi do. just my own opinion.
That matter has already been explained over and over again, so please don’t you ever ask stupid questions like “why is Proton going backwards by selling rebadged Lancers” or whatsoever. Full stop. Everyone here has already been explained about the rationale on why Proton makes a decision to rebadge Lancer GT as the Inspira. If you think Proton is stupid by rebadging Lancer GT as Inspira, then many giant carmakers like Chrysler are also idiots by your standards, though they are hundreds of times more genius than you are. If you really insist, then ask Proton hire you as an engineer or designer and create your own “desired” car and we’ll see whether the car that you’ve designed can sell or not.
Trouble is, the explanation given by Proton for what they have done does not sit well with me. Not logical at all especially when both Inspira and Persona are C-segment cars.
persona is a b+ segment car , even if you say it’s a c segment, so what? let it be, at the end the buyers have the benefits, bigger car with cheaper price
you don’t want it?
I want I want but can it be not a proton batch?
hey, pls don act as if u know everything, pls see broader, those big auto company wont let any one to rebadge their models which will be sold in same local market, this will dampen the original model car price!!u are juz another man who is brain washed by proton with ”smart guys get it”, are they really smart??hm…im wondering
proton need to save euro60 Million for next 3 years meh…
they want to sponsor renaultF1 meh
diam-diam sudah
all car manufacturers nowadays rebadge here and there
no sins meh
just shut up and support malaysian car meh
the inspira black color is nice …
I think this guy is related to Bung Moktar
So so so nice…. like it so much~
I went to Proton Edar in Autocity this morning. I was shocked about the price. It’s below from I get from net. Maybe it’s is just a rumor or Proton drop the price. But for me it is reasonable to get one. It’s still underprice for a Japs car. xD
My review about my Proton Inspira :
http://mohamadfirdaus.com/blog/2010/11/proton-inspira-a-master-right-resale-product
Paul…good write…u call it as it is…and you do it in record time…appreciate that…just feel that the logo on the steering wheel should be better…this way…it looks unfinished…
Good Job Mr. Paul, it is so informative for the news and reports.
Duh… with that price, I rather buy a Honda City. I can leave without the bells and whistles.
How do u know hond city without the bells and whitsles? Try buy one. Really sucks.
Proton quality can better than Honda? Tell me about it. I will be interested to hear that how this Lancer-wannabe can be any how better. As if you never heard stories that Proton parts started to fall apart after short period of time.
I don’t have to “try buy one”, I own it. It is the best car within the RM90k range.
Heard Stories again and again……
I own a Proton, 3 years now. Nothing falling, failing or what so eva….
Even after driving my other car the Suzi Swift, I can feel my Proton Sawi still feels awesome and feels like brand new…
do you expect ppl in this forum to praise you for that?
Hell no! they dont even care for what you buy
Praise me for what? Just compare a car quality with that similar price range. A Toyota Vios can be a better buy IMO.
go buy city then
later…
it’s ok to tell your wife how regret you are
If I would buy a Proton with that price, hell yes, I will be damn regret to spend my hard earn money on a car manufacturer that has no dignity who still selling the same model for the past 20 years and keep copying other cars design, parts falling apart after short period of time, people buying it because of the unfair competition set by the garment.
Yes, I own a City, and I am damn regret for buying it now because I paid huge tax for garment, If only the garment tax-free the Hybrid earlier, I would’ve go for Civic Hybrid at least my money won’t sucked by garment and I get a well built car
if u talk about gomen sucking people money/politics/tax/etc
this is never ending story man
inspira is most value for money in its class (been there, done that by lancer GT)… face it!
at the end of the day
your money, your choice
btw, go find some fact about city
under the skin, it is just a saga blm!… huhu
Foooooooooooooooooooooo
Nice…. Wanna have one….! Great job Proton!
Seriously considering the 2.0P, a saving of almost 30k from Lancer EX, why not.
Wonder why they give free handheld GPS unit for the 2.0 and not the LCD player with GPS like the one in Lancer EX.
There are many benefits of using handheld GPS rather than the built-in one. Firstly, you can update it easily on your own – connect it to your PC, download the map updates and then upload the new map to the GPS unit. No need for memory cards. On the other hand, if you want to update the built-in unit, you’ll need a memory card and a card reader for the updating process.
Secondly, if you sell you Inspira, you can still keep the portable GPS unit to be used in your newer car.
I agree with some of the benefits of having handheld GPS device. But at the same time there are many disadvantages. For most GPS devices you will still need a memory card, the internal flash is just too small to store all the data. I have a quite a latest GPS device with 4GB flash memory, that’s just not enough, so make no different here. The battery on GPS device usually can’t last, so a car charger is always needed, so there will be a power cable hanging in front of you in the car. The LCD screen is also smaller compared to the built in, and if you get the bigger screen and stick it on your windscreen, that will block your view. Also the built in unit with LCD definitely can play movies, which the GPS device can’t provide.
I’m not sure if you guys notice the accessories package price in the price list for both Inspira 1.8 and 2.0.
The accessories package for 1.8 cost RM2,260.00 and for 2.0 cost RM4,610.00. And the only different item in the accessories package for the 1.8 and 2.0 is the GPS Navigator. So Proton is actually selling the handheld GPS to us at the price of RM2,350.00. This is much more expensive that any of the top end GPS devices from popular names such as Garmin, Papago etc. Just wonder can we buy without this Navigator and get the 2K++ discount.
awesome..already book for the 2.0 model
fuyoo…awesome…
Jom Proton Inspira owner, lets go modify~!!
the day of RM100k protons have arrived….is proton cars getting more expensive or me becoming poorer?
nice one..
things getting expensive..look at housing in kl,all are 500k min..
how on earth people with low incomes going to buy house in kl..
haihzz..some people busy making tons of money,and some people are suffering to make them rich..
and for inspira for 70k-90k,it is quite expensive though..
To be honest, there’s already a RM100k Proton before. The Perdana, rings any bells?
give u a cheap car u say louzy material.. give u a better car u say too expensive.. aiy.. human.. better proton go for customisable car.. see how you want ur car will be.. no more complain kan…?
i just book 1.
1.8 MT (Silver)
good choice bro
enjoy your ride ;)
u’r a smart guy!
not sure if i am smart but i am thinking for best value of money.
i tell u what
vios/city owner will envy u to the max every time you passing over… heheee
:D
EXPENSIVE…..
What makes you feel it’s expensive? Have you ever compare the same range with T or H? What is their price? Cheap?
Good news = looks like there will be no shortages of Mitsu/Proton spare parts for this Lancer/Inspira. Will be able to get spares almost anywhere country-wide.
Bad news = will be difficult spotting a real Lancer from the Inspired one :) But then again, it doesn’t really matter.
I used to own a PerdanaV6 & it has never given me any problems from 10 years ago – I still love my Perdana/Eterna V6 :)
Well done, Proton!
looks like a lancer
I like the option of the 1.8 Manual. Shift sticks are hard to find these days & our new license category for future drivers will only allow them to drive Auto cars.
Still love the adrenaline going when shifting a manual through the clutches :)
No komen… nice ride!
Good move. Proton shd have followed Produa re-badge strategy. This can save a lot from R&D fund allocation & government subsidy. As Proton Engineer really poor in design/making good car for us. Beside, they can cut company expenses more by layoff those sleeping engineer who design rusa. tiara, waja, iswara and almost all current model. really bad quality but hopefully this re-badged lancer will bring hope for malaysian.
oh… government.. now that Proton do rebadge.. u don need to protect it by jacking up the price of other brand… can u remove the protection on Proton and let us enjoy cheaper cars across the board??
have u ever heard a term called “core-technology”?
do u ever think of “self-sufficient”?
think more :)
FYI, Rusa was a Perodua, not a Proton.
lol rusa is a proton car??
Of course la Rusa is a Proton car.
ha ha ha……..suddenly Proton got adopted son.
aiya Proton also training ground for engineers mah………not only make their own cars only.
help create jobs and opportunities for new grads, give them a good background.
let’s wait a bit longer to see whether they have an all original product in 2011/2012.
Inspira cannot be priced lower as volume is not expected to beat the Persona or Saga or Exora.
Every time when there is the matter of Proton, I can see a long list of comments. deriding comments, praising all available here. Is it good or not? Inspira is not a direct copy from the Lancer. There were improvements made for example in the case of handling and suspension. With the price of RM91K for the Highest spec, I think very worthwhile compared to the original Lancer which handling is too firm. Nevetherless, Inspira is for family, offering comfort, while the Lancer is for sport Spirited guy. If you want comfort go to Inspira but if want sports, then go to lancer.
Bravo P1!!!
Hahaha Langkawi Lancer is way cheaper than Inspira. CKD fail. CKD price increase compare to CBU. What logic is this. Only in Malaysia!
It does make an interesting story line for a sketch…. Imagine….
Mr. Mitsubishi drives a brand new Lancer 2.0 through the backdoor of Mr. Proton workshop at Langkawi. He gets out of the car and hand over the keys and invoice to Mr. Proton. Tne price shown in the ivoice is below 70K, lower than the retail price, because Mr. Proton gets fleet diacount. After all, Mr. Proton targets to sell 2000 units per month.
The workers in Mr. Proton’s workshop take out the bumper, steering wheel, rim, grille and some other things… and replace them with parts from his kawan & in house design team.
Mr. Proton drives the car out the front door of his workshop and voila! Inspira 2.0! He then sticks on the selling price 82+K.
Mr. Proton is an enterprising man. He takes the original body kit and parts removed from the Lancer and sells it to people who fancy changing the Inspira back to a Lancer….
Final scene in the script shows Mr. Proton looking at his profit statement with a big smile on his face….
proton built inspira in malaysia but not Complete Knock Down (CKD) aka Knocked-Down eXport(KDX), Myvi also is not consider as CKD since most part r built in malaysia by vendor….CKD most the kit, part n most thing is come from source country before being assemble in receive country..but proton through its vendor built part, kit n other thing in the country (for now 40%) that hav been license by MMC..
“The “knockdowns” or “kits of parts” are both misnomers because the knockdowns were never built up in the first place and the shipments may not be in the form of all the components needed for the complete assembly of a product in a kit.” – Miller, Russell R. (2000). Doing business in newly privatized markets: global opportunities and challenges. Greenwood Publishing Group. p. 281
Paul,are you planning to do a full review of all models without black masking tape?
Expensive….Overpriced….Smart guy will not buy it…
Well done, Proton!
Without the AP, “original” Lancer would have been on par or cheaper than inspira. Put it to the test and show us why should we pay that much for Inspira (weird name as nothing about it says “inspiration”) than buying “original” Lancer. Proton understands that that can’t compete globally and now back to business as assemblers by bringing an existing product and charge it more than what the market price granted by the government market protectionism. Why can’t we have an open car market system? It clearly shows that Proton could not compete with others be it domestic or international. Then what is the point of keeping Proton as it brings more liability to Malaysians and enrich its cronies? For this matter I will not support the local car industry and will hold on to my old durable economical cheap to run ten year old trusty Camry.
If verybody like this Toyota pun bankrupt, still driving a ten years old car.
AP is suppose to be free n u can apply at MITI
Just wondering… if you can afford a 100k car… would u buy a Proton or Honda or Toyota? Yes… the Inspira is much cheaper and very tempting compared to the original Mit. Lander… but with that much of money I need to cough out and burden for so long… I am just wondering whether it is OK to spent it on a Proton batch..
Any suggestion??
The salesman tell me waiting period is until mid end December which based on pass record is full of Bull from Proton SA.. I doubt if I place booking now, I couldn’t even get it before chinese new year..
Paul, thanks for the info :)
Would certainly help when I go for a test-drive soon.
Cheers!
Oooh, the GPS looks fancy…
I really agree with some of the ppl here. Why the proton price is more expensive than the Original Mitsu Lancer in Langkawi?
Lancer = RM71,800
Proton – RM82,999.
This cannot be true la……Since Proton is local produce. should be cheaper……If i am stayin at Langkawi, i will buy lancer lo…… CBU ma :P
This is the so call BULLSHIT like what an englishman said ! Any Proton spokesman wanna clarify this ?
It is not bullshit la. Pls go to mitsu website and see for it la. Do not need anyone to clarifty one……..I get proton price based on what paul website show and check it against the Mitsu website on this. I also know that you are damn lazyyyyy to search for it. Here is link for your reference……
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/showroom-lancer-langkawi.php
Pls do your research before making such a stupid comment. haizzzzz just do not understand why some ppl have bird brain…………In this website, everyone have thier own opinion…….. If i am wrong, just tell me or prove it to me……. do not need to scold scold one.
Cheers
smart move dude!
Superb … Inspira is the BEST Proton car ever… Superb engines, superb body!!!
MMC can close shop…
OK. My Mistake didn’t go thru all your photo.
Wow..The 2.0 accessory compare to 1.8 without Navigator cost RM2350
Paul, Is it compulsory to take the accessory?
cheaper EVO 10!
are there any tweeters? just now i used a pen torch to shine at the housing, it is empty
Can anyone confirm this?
Paul, can u get a set of comparing pics between inspira and lancer like u did for the dashboard?
I can foresee that those 16″ rims are gonna be a cleaning nightmare.
it mean to be change anyway…
can anyone confirm that this inspira dont have tweeters? i just used a pen torch to see at the housing and it is empty
well done proton inspira.hope that proton can bring in more Rebadge model not only from mitsubishi but from other brand.it definite will benefit the local buyers.
Then no need proton, Naza can do it.
its about time to upgrade from wajalution to inspiralution….
turbo, intercooler, evoX bodykit, brembo brake, wahahahhaha i will mod kaw kaw kasi power up!
nobody will notice im driving an inspira…dream come true for no money people like me…
thanx proton for making my dream come true!
bye bye my wajalution evo8 – your evolution spirit will be inherit by inspira…
The bodykit should be standard lah then only it will be more attractive.
Anyone notice how thin is the door rubber compare to Mitz ? Dam proton
oo..look better than lancer…
wondering what will be toyota n honda strategy after this..
proton have been establish since 1983..how come proton still can not make cars with its own design???how long they need government support 50-100yearss???if proton are very succeeds and why the government is still restricting people to choose a car that better quality and more secure???whyyy!!!
are you just born on the same day of the launching?
talking about its own design… how you put blind eye on persona, gen2, neo, savvy, saga and exora?
Its their design isnt it?
care to explain?
persona,gen2,neo,savy..all have been design by lotus not the proton proton 100%..
exora actually been design with by perodua but proton never mention it..
so wat do u think??
U serius? Exora is designed with Perodua?? but talking about design nowadays.. don’t bother who and where it originated from as it is most probably done by contracted staff/design house.. no biggie.. in fact if I recall correctly all these new Hyundai tha look just excellent is becoz they hired some chief designer from Europe to deisng their car..
where did you get those information?
especially, exora was designed by perodua… this is something freakin new…
even my friend at perodua never know what exora looks like before the launching
what a joke…mahathir saying proton have desgn a good car
it means the other way round… you know how sarcasm he is : )
I guess this is the first time you read paultan.org, uh? Welcome then..
Walau ehhh……..! Potong WALAN!
All the best to Proton….
Congrat Proton! there is nothing wrong with rebadged car. So proton, Please REBADGE Merc or BMW or Volkswagen. We, Malaysian will like it. Good JOB!
Paul, what do you think about the 16″ tires fitted to Inspira 2.0? Shall one change them to the 18″ as in Lancer?
Imagine if they had done it with VW. Inspira might look like the passat cc. That time i dont mind paying over 100k for a proton. And I will be all so proud for them for rebadging the right product
It’s too expensive!55K for Proton ok lah!
PITTY!
Just back from the showroom.
The paint and detailing is not as good as the Japan made Lancers.
But for the RM20K difference, the Inspira is worth buying lah.
No USB port at all? This is 2010 !
wow…it’s look like evo 10…but it’s still cool…Malaysia Boleh Lah…
the negative
– u have to take out the air duct in order to replace the battery…stupid mitsu engineers..troublesome!
– boot space is not as big as city or waja
– compartment should be more..glovebox same size as myvi glovebox!
the positive
– best proton build car ever
– nice contour seat
– bumper design not bad at all
– worth the price
as for me 7 out of 10!!..could be 8 after driving it!
been to the showroom, the response was less enthusiastic than the exora, persona, saga and neo launch that i have been to, i guess everyone has seen the car already, in the lancer form
ive test driven the lancer gt, and this inspira looks like a lancer EX. the price is right, could even beat the price of a forte and T&H offerings.problem is, its just gonna be another proton, bad resale value and maybe most likely end up in a bank auction, so u can pick one up cheap, its gonna be a generic myvi on the road for the masses. lol
but yeah with the new hybrid incentive, im sure that the honda insight, honda civic hybrid would be a close fight. factor in lower petrol costs and lower interest rates for non national cars, these cars are a good alternative. i think the wait game is a good choice now to see what cars give the most value.
Went to Jln Ampang Showroom — I’ve been inform interest rate starting from 3.5% (5y) to 3.85% (9y) interest rate will lil bit higher for extended warranty package. waiting period for 1.8 1-2 month and 2.0 2-3 month :)
Rakyat really kena potong at 90K.
Should I get the 1.8 proton lancer or the toyota vios TRD instead? I dunno how to choose now, the 1.8 is so cheap, toyota also cheap, i gonna use it as my spare car… toyota is more reliable. lancer is bigger in size. pls help.
Better buy Altis facelift if you have more money and really into Toyota badge and reliability. Buy in january normally will get good discount for 2010 stock.
vios trd too expensive. why not loo at the peugeot 308VTi or civic hybrid. those are better cars. Forte in 2.0L form is very good too, powerful and original.
Since it is a spare car, 1.8 lancer with upgraded seats will be best for you.
Oops, meant the Inspira 1.8…..
for the given choices inspira & vios trd:
vios trd:
1. old design
2. TRD what? suspension only?
inspira:
1. considered new
2. proton ride & handling.
after all, u must, mr doctor, test drive 1st.
buy the 1 that u like the most.
it’s ur money afterall :)
To fellow citizen who are rich better buy other than inspira because poor people i think they can afford with this price although it may suffer a little with their inxcome.
Our Proto just cannot compete with other in the Global market. We are paying more than original Lancer for Inspira,if there is no tax involved. Proton is “potong orang sendiri”. We should have this car selling below RM60K if we are making it locally. I think Proton cannot get anyone to buy this car outside Malaysia, it is just too expensive!!! Or the price we are paying is to subsidy our global market,make them more competive.
There is no such thing as “no tax involved” gonna happen dude…
err.. this Proton Inspira can use RON95 or not?
Better buy now before they hike the local content in later models and you’ll be getting a shitty car…
And get the 2.0 model, so dat we can break your windscreen and steal your gps!
But at the end the Lancer will still be the Original no matter what you do to Inspira to look like one (PANASONIC still the best if you compare with PENSONIC) just check around how long both can last in terms of quality….no point bashing here…to all bashers and Ah Bengs, just wait for 2 years we’ll know which one has a good quality since some have posted here on the quality of the rubber and interior finishing…good luck to everyone
Better go for Kia Forte 2.0 with more safety futures with same price tag…
and enjoy the rubbish electric steering and leery handling at high speeds. put 12 airbags in it and I still wont let my loved ones drive this car.
just curious…do you have any bad experience with forte before?
All i know is that forte has a nice design…
go for kia forte if you want inspira smokes you kao kao
Err how is the power window? does it work?
Q1: Does a national car make me feel proud of my country’s achievement ?
Q2: Will/has this national car brought with it the economic benefits it was supposed to ?
25 yrs ago, the answer to both would possibly be “yes”.
TODAY, with hindsight,….i feel so cheated and am utterly dissapointed . Car prices have been badly distorted by our arcane-cronie-taxes-AP-duties, all to protect this “over-grown baby” of ours and not to mention, to the benefit of them cronies.
Try abolishing (i) APs; and (ii) insane duties/taxes on CBU cars – even competition on all grounds. Would u buy a Proton ? YES ? Pls wake up your idea, Proton would have ceased to exist – bankrupt !
Enuff said – proton is nothing but the worst thing that happened to our country. Only fools will be proud.
Seriously if i have 90k budget, i wont even think of proton… not worth at all
Your money,Your Choice.
Thank You
Yes….I wouldnt want to pay 90K and sits in a Proton.
do you think without Proton, tax for import car will be lower? the fact is, even proton cars are being taxed almost 50%. and without all those taxes, do you think gov could afford to build schools, roads and hospitals? you can get outpatient treatments for just RM1 here.
do you prefer to pay higher income tax instead?
Mofaz, case in point – imagine if all cars are taxed equally at 50%….what would you reckon the outcome to be ? You seemed oblivious to the obvious.
By the way, an efficient govt does not solely depend on car taxes to run the country. And just so u know, my tax bracket for YA 09 was 27%.
hoochie,
i’m not taking side here, but i do feel what Malaysian gov doing now is not 100% right or wrong, i believe the policy could be better.
market size in japan and korea are much bigger than ours, yet they had to ban import cars in their early stage of development. here, we have a choice whether to pay less or more tax for our car, and u still can buy whatever car u want if you could afford it. i’ve met some families which have 5 and more cars, no issue.
maybe the tax will be even higher without proton & perodua. thailand had to ban import cars in 1980s due to trade deficit (they import more than export). about 500,000 cars sold in Malaysia last year, if average price is RM50k, and all of that are imported, means that RM25bil went out to other countries.
if gov could earn RM700bil from selling oil like arab, then they could abolish all taxes. but no, we’re not that rich in natural resources. even brunei have tax on import cars too.
Thanks hoochie. Your reasoning is spot on.
I wonder where Mofaz gets his logic.
hoochie, you’re spot on. There’s nothing to be proud of Proton. After rebadging, Inspira price is still more expensive than the Lancer in an unprotected market (look at Langkawi price) How can Proton increase export volume to be competitive? It shows Proton has nothing to offer the world with its latest product.
Bear in mind that C segment is one of the most popular (the bread and butter segment) and largest segment in the world which all car makers want a slice of. But Proton just simply cant have any of it.
the new lancer was bornnnnnn………..but not in MMC
Luckily I didn’t get an original Mitsubishi Lancer GT last few month. (Got an 05 2.4 Accord instead) :-)
Not because of I Like Potong Walan.
But Malaysian road will be flooded by Walan car. Feel so pity to Mitsubishi owner!
Wow accord is a good buy
In fact it’s pity for Proton Inspira owners also !
accord is boring look
I think good bye accord, because we can pay 91K for 150bhp car.
wira also can get 150 hp like no problme lulz with turbo ,even higher
accord 4th gear is weak
difficult to take over cars, even an old waja!
is proton helping the local market ? so that everyone got the chance to make their own version of EVO-X and with the help of Proton-Lotus handling ? if is true …..i do think is a good buy. :)
(well i think not many mechanic or engineer can design to reach lotus handling standard)
still over priced to me …..
REMEMBER…A LITTLE CHANGE AT THIS INSPIRA (4 THOSE DREAMIN TO CHANGE IT INTO MITSU PARTS)..
UR 3 YEARS WARRANTY WILL BURN AUTOMATICALLY
the SA say the service center will not entertain any Proton Inspire with a Mit badge… quite rediculous.. people buy car and service the engine, not service the plastic part of the car front.. how can they just say that??
All i can say, its worth for each single cent you pay for it….
The 2.0P price at RM91,999 no longer allow us to complain anymore, what kind of car we can buy at this range..? City E spec or VIos TRD? Or Nissan Latio…?
GIving you the current best Mit Engine 4B10 and 4B11 with Invec III gearbox, not an outdated product for Malaysia anymore.
Previously Wira was using outdated engine. With this new Inspira + latest engine, Proton no longer sell a tipu product to Malaysian anymore(at this moment).
Myself also hate proton a lot many years ago, but Persona change my mind, with Syed Zainal as a new PIC for proton, drastical improvement we can see from the day on ward…..
1.Showroom that not follow the actual time launch the car, will kena suspend.
2.Uniform not wear according to the standard.
3. Sport check on Sales Advisor for unable to answer the Q&A during launching also will kena too…
Well done Proton…. You earn the respect from all of us….
dont speak for me. at such price tag, i will ask if i am paying for peace of mind.
not yet.
Why does everyone conveniently leave out the closest competitor to the Inspira – the Kia Forte 2.0? Does leaving it out make the Inspira look “better”?
yup…kia forte 2.0 also 90k+
inspira has better look than forte so no need to compare so forte’s been kicked out from the list
For around the same price as the 2.0 Inspira, I can get a Kia Forte which comes with many features that are not found on the Inspira. If you want to compare vehicles, compare thoroughly instead of using only the weak models and omitting the strong models.
That is cheating!
Wait until ‘balik kampung’ session comes. I can’t wait to hear complaint about boot space and tight rear passenger space from the over proud Inspira owners (the family man type ones for sure)
lol lancer fail
Malaysia is going backward. I hope I still love this beloved country
Paul,
I will congratulate PROTON for launching this car. Its good value for money, and yes, answers the demand for a new car at PROTON.
I don’t however buy the MD’s argument a few postings ago that the Inspira was not a regression for the national car company. He had said that, quoting paultan.org, “it made little financial sense to build a car in this segment from scratch, as the small volume won’t help it recoup the investment. It takes about RM600-700 million to do so, while a OEM collaboration (as Proton MD Datuk Syed Zainal prefers to call it over “rebadging”) takes up just RM250 million. The process also just took 17 months compared to a full two years if Proton would have worked solo. Not worth it for a projected 1,600 units per month, they say.”
Now, I’m a big fan of Datuk Syed, compared to Tengku Mahaleel and his idiosyncrasies of design (remember the no glove box Gen2), his attempt at saving is job (with a new car in the much derided Juara) and of course his famous quip about the Wira at launch (this is Asia’s answer to the 3 Series). With Datuk Syed PROTON seems more progressive with quality issues and he believes in listening to his people and more importantly, his market.
But when he said what he said, it suggested PROTON was not planning properly. By saying that volume would make investment costs prohibitive, he’s clearly not ready to get the export market seriously sorted. Ok, so you’re in the UK and Australia but have you seen the reviews?
If PROTON feels that investing in the Lancer segment was foolish with the quantity in Malaysia (TIV 500k), I agree. But the export market is massive. I can hear people saying “its a tough market” and “PROTON is not ready”, but we’ve been hearing that for years, and in the case of the former, its the same market Korean, Japanese and even Chinese carmakers are playing in (OK so the Chinese carmakers are a bit thick-skinned (though I like the Eastar) but that’s a story for another day).
PROTON’s statement seems to reveal that there was improper planning and I’m guessing they were dead sure that the deal with VW would have pulled through. So the development work stalled as VW would have given them access to at least one platform, one engine family and of course, one immediate model.
In a nutshell, yes, I think the Inspira (and why not Waja??) IS a regression for PROTON, but it makes sense for the business in the very short term. In the longer term, PROTON has its work clearly cut out. You can’t keep hiding behind “its a tough market” and “its expensive to build from scratch” when everyone is playing the same field. The saying goes, “if you can’t handle the heat, get out of the kitchen”.
I agreed on some of your point but do not forget inspira was purposely built to capture the market of C and D car segment in short term until Proton have enough capital and big enough market to built one from scratch… Also not to forget that DSZ also mentioned that they currently focusing on development core model like saga, Persona, exora and coming soon Emas which they gonna use to penetrate the international market…so for me its still a very wise business decision and its all about money plus some tech and quality cntrl knowledge transfer….since Inspira quality currently is monitored and audited by MMC and they hired retired MMC jap in quality control…
CDX, remember also a few days ago Tun Mahathir announced that a hybrid Saga was on its way. Now here is the paradox. In Malaysia, a hybrid Saga would make very little sense because its already selling well. Fact is, hybrid cars are more popular in advanced markets like Japan and Europe.
The Saga is not available in those markets, so a hybrid Saga will be poor use of PROTON’s funds.
PROTON should sort out their normally aspirated cars first i.e. design a nice looking and technically sound car that can grab the attention of the global market. Once you have the sales (and thus the trust), a hybrid car would be the way to go. Why waste funds which are already limited towards a technology to be put in a car that’s only doing well in a 500,000 TIV market?
If the Saga’s not available in those market, then the Saga Hybrid could be a platform to enter such market, would it not? So is it a waste to develop the car?
Tiadaid,
I agree it can be a platform, but if you were a buyer, between a PROTON, a Honda and a Toyota hybrid, you’d more likely take the latter two.
All I’m saying is, if you have made your marque as a carmaker, you can even sell merchandise and it will sell. Ask Land ROver, Ferrari, BMW and other top marques.
High priority is to either develop or change vendors. The Untouchables. Other SME companies willing to take up challenge. Why deal with big lumbering behemoths.
Research will never become a waste….even the research not went through development stage its still valuable since you gather technical data and knowledge that can be use in the future…
it was a lousy strategic move for Proton, tech and knowledge transfer??? U joking me.. the Wira/Perdana is a pure rebadge of Mits and they didn’t get enuf knowledge transfer by then, why would they get it this time? Frankly, Proton just plainly put a chart on the wall of Malaysia auto market and see potential of making money out of entering the C or D segment in the cheapest and fastest way.. everything after that is just a show or talk no sense to cover up their intention.. Hence, Proton shud just admit it, I want $$$ and that is why I am introducing the Inspira… everything else just keep it to themselves..
Guest what… I sat in the Proton show room today to watch their Inspirea intro movie.. there is a Mits jap guy that say Proton Inspira is better built then a Lancer.. what a hoax… Proton Factory can now built cars that is better quality than Mits factory is Japan… hahaha..
why not, its handling can match conti cars
then the reviews itself proved it, inspira is better than lancer, go and read
don’t just bash here and there
Yadda yadda… don just protect them also..
once the actual car getz on the road and with actual test drive then we shall see..
When Malaysia is able to produce a good car.. Why Malaysian simply cant accept that we have actually do it.
Remember the initial aim of having national car? To produce our own car…. then a international quality car..
Well…. Malaysia is doing it… Proton is hardworking in this few years.. Why Malaysian are so envy when Proton is actually making it already?
1. Proton is now able to reduce the BODY GAPS of Mitsu 3.5mm to Inspira 2.5mm.
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/11/11/nation/7407689&sec=nation
2. Proton is now able to produce a car with good handling and ride with LOTUS tuning. (for those who dont accept this fact.. I bet you havent drive one of the latest Proton b4…try compare a hard-core driving of a Proton with any other car~!)
3. Proton has is coming up with good R&D. Proton has overcome the OVER-Heat CVT problem found in ORI Lancer.
4. Proton can come up with DECENT DESIGN. (e.g Persona, Exora, Saga.. ETC…)
5. Proton is coming up with a HYBRID.. (e.g. Exora Hybrid which beaten the Vauxhall in UK recently…. Proton Emas… )
6. Interior quality?? It’s quite decent ady… It’s durable enough.
7. We have got all the fact that PROTON is a DECENT CAR MANUFACTURER.
D-segment is Toyota Camry, Mazda 6, Honda Accord & Hyundai Sonata. You seriously believe the crap from Proton that their Inspira is a D-segment car with a C-segment price?
ERRATA: Para 3 (replace Wira with Waja)
… and of course his famous quip about the Waja at launch (this is Asia’s answer to the 3 Series)…
RM 80k for 1.8cc !!!!!…..6.2L for 100km…..wahhhhhhhhhhhhh……
civic hybrid 108K for 1.3cc !!!!!…3.2L for 100km…waaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh….
6.2l if u drive at a constant 90km/hr…….
The Inspira 1.8 cvt has horribly soft seats in the back. My Toyota Avanza has much firmer seats for the 2nd and third row. The front seats are a lot firmer but still totally inadequate compared to to those in Japanese make. A very big disappointment.
You are rite, I tried the back seat and it is very soft. May have backache for long journey…….
This is the beginning of Proton quality…
Funny, my accord is damn hard seat and I hate the most.
My Corolla Altis seats is so damn hard.
My Pregnant wife preferred to sit in the saga BLM more.
Your argument is weak. different people different taste
how long you all in the waiting list?my sa tell me around 1 and half month..
I agree with Kevin Lee. A Proton is always a proton. Owned a wira and persona before. Its just not worth the trouble. Have a Mazda 3 and a Honda City. There is a reason why Japanese made cars are always better, the build quality especially. Proton tears down so easily, no doubt the engine lasts but other than that, the power windows goes, the alarm goes and the airbags do not work all the time. Not worth my time.
Sensible consumers in malaysia buys Japanese cars for a reason –> not only brand power, but mainly its realibility, that is what drives the second hand value.
Proton tears down so easily, no doubt the engine lasts but other than that, the power windows goes
– hello brother, which model got power window. all the new proton model no more power window problem la.
and the airbags do not work all the time
– how many time u crash ur car ha?
this guy nv drive current proton model for many years liao..
his mind still remain in 1980….. hahaha
haha…
i always wonder why people always bash proton with its power window problem…
my myvi and also my friend myvi’s power window also fail to work regularly,
but no one seems to bash perodua about this..
bash bash bash our own product..mentality malaysian
i much prefer to choose lancer then inspira..when i compare those 2..look like lancer much better..not only the interior,but the body design also lancer is much better..take a look from front of the car..then u realize lancer much better than inspira.
Take a sneak peek at Lancer Forum Malaysia & u will know major problems occurred in GT. Proton changed few things to fix these issues. There are reasons behind the ugliness of Inspira’s undersized wheels and BLM-alike front bumper :)
well what can i say..well done proton and mitsu. nice looking car (thanks to mitsu) and reasonable price tag (thanks to proton). what i hope is that after sales services will be upgraded since the consumers/drivers are hoping the best from the technicians n mechanics in performing their duties. last time i wanted to complaint regarding some minor problems to the staff at proton service centre they just simply answered “ala biasala proton bunyi sikit2 tu biasala.” if u cannot perform and give quality services to the buyers better open ur own mechanic shop under a tree..
the only thing i dislike about Inspira is the steering.
it looks unfinished.
kalau letak Proton’s emblem but do it in the silver colour (like most of Japan cars) mesti cantik.
agreed.. waja steering looks nicer than inspira’s
ya agree with u.. my waja steering emblem looks more cun than inspira.. mayb proton should change the emblem types to look more elegence…
imagine the air bag deploy with the silver emblem steering. That silver hard pieces can kill you.
I’m glad proton got think this through.
then why mitsubishi, toyota & honda have their emblem on steering wheels? lancer also has the emblem on the steering. have you seen airbags in action?
the cover will just flip open to expose the airbags for deployment. the only part you hit is the bag, not the steering cover.
wow! looks damn good, and exactly like .. emm, Lancer.
Perhaps if we look at a different view point, this proton might be the safest and advance in technology for the rakyat who doesnt care about the twins situation.
It’s better than having the outgoing lancer as it’s latest model. BUT the question is, 20 years from now, are we launching another “Wacer”? If that’s the case, why not transform our automotive industry to similar one like thailand. It can still provide the jobs and strengthen malaysia’s economy. We would love to buy cars made in msia, regardless of the brand and of course, with the right price for each individual.
Just my 2cent.
crazy pricing for new inspira.
not worth the money at all after all its proton not the “real lancer”
goverment robbing the rakyat at day light.
how can locally manufactured car costing close to 100K?
The answer is…..so that all those morons who buy this malaysian made cars can help the goverment to send another moron to outerspace and that moron can buy imported CBU models while the average earners struggle with daily living cost cannot afford to buy the real lancer but but the “tipu lancer pun jadilah”
malaysian automotive industry is 50 years behind the rest.thanks to the great dr.M
I’m not pro government but either being rob or cheat is at your own will. If u own a company u will also strive for more profit. So its all in you, me and everyone else.
Just cherish the wide option milking the market, end up rewarding the consumer…
Life full of complain is just plain kiasu…. let it go my friend…
I think you are still living in another space. Any companies in the world will try to maximise profit, some at any cost. Our dear Proton actually milking money (not Profit, they never make any profit) from both the stupid buyers and also rakyat tax money. All these just to maintain few heroes’ lifestyle.
While l never blamed Inspira or in fact l’m seriously considering Inspira DOESN’T MEAN l agree with the price-tag.
The high price tag even worst in Labuan/Langkawi does suggested one thing: WE,RAKYAT WAS TAKEN FOR RIDE to subsidy Proton. Proton was created to imply AFFORDABILITY but never in Inspira case.
Within 5 years government should make even playing field for carmakers since proton make our life tougher, harder, costlier etc.
Proton Financial Statements 2009
http://www.proton.com/public/media/mediacentre/documents/annualreports/AReport_2009_5.pdf
I wouldn’t really bother to even look at those figures.
How many of us really understand the “provisions” and “depreciation” method employed.
Would be very happy if govt slowly reduce excise duties on non-P1 n P2 cars.
This is almost like the govt itself.
i don’t care excise for imported cars. i would rather prefer gov to reduce or abolish excise for local cars instead. saga will be below RM30k, persona, waja & exora will be below RM40k.
toyota & honda are the ones who have been taking us for ride. Prius and Civic Hybrid is around RM70k in Japan & US. with only 10% sales tax here, the price should be below Rm80K.. why the price jumped to RM110k and RM140k instead? their profit margin is RM30k – RM60k… what a rip-off!!
do you think viva or myvi or even kancil is reasonable price? dont you think the P2 should have more reasonable price? 660 for 25k? 1.3 SE for 50k? why you not complaint about this?
People like you anjez is the real moron, not others who buy this car or other Malaysian assembled car. Shame people like you with a lot of grievances but still live in this country, earn a living and enjoy the facilities.
Spot on! typical Jinjang fella
wow..
how i wish i hav ori-lancer owner freind hehehe.. cool, same “enhanced” car + cheaper..
Cant wait to “cucuk angin” this car with my neo.. kikikiki..
congrat Inspira new owner.. excited eeee
only can cucuk angin, but after that eat dust laa..
its GEMA engine
yeah cucuk inspira too with camry and accord
Hydraulic Power Steering… bad point!
why not EPS
yes ,should use EPS ~~
People always said EPS lacks the feel and feedback of the road of normal steering when driving
EPS will increase the price.
Hyd also ok one….except slightlyyyyyy higher fuel consumption and less power to the wheels.
our oil price is much cheaper than western country, japan, korea, china..so I think petrol consumption is not an issue here.
HELLO, it is not going to be cheap for much longer!
and it should not be so cheap, dont you just hate those ppl who take naps in their cars with the engine on in the basement carpark.
IF EPS, takut nanti kena recall macam Passo…
Seriously…This is like a launching ceremony of another facelift lancer to me. Nothing special since its an existing model. But having said that, it is indeed a very good deal. More ppl can now upgrade their models to this Inspira soon.
Still acceptable. Design is quite good, really look very high-class car like Accord, Camry and other models.
Actually, Proton is quite smart. Since Persona is 1600cc, to prevent Inspira affect Persona’s sales, Proton choose 1800c and 2000cc, give more choise to customers . Good job, Proton!
1,800 bookings so far, hope that the following months can maintain the sales.
Booked 2 today, for me and my brother hehehehehe! so proud lah akakakakaka
You didn’t book 1 for me? how come…
i agree with Coolken about “Proton tears down so easily, no doubt the engine lasts but other than that, the power windows goes, the alarm goes and the airbags do not work all the time.Sensible consumers in malaysia buys Japanese cars for a reason –> not only brand power, but mainly its realibility.” ..if someone never experience that, they really do not know the feeling..so just think about that, This is not to deteriorate the proton, but this fact..
this is joke, how you know the airbags don’t work all the time, you crash the car each time you drive eh? is there any airbag indicator on the panel ? you never seen the panel right?
pelase la power window issue sudah basi, want to create stories summore
It’s depends on how you maintained the car..mine 6 yrs no problem at all and the service center quite cheap compare to others, just spend lest than rm150 for every service. A friend of mine drive Honda and had spent more than 10k in 3yrs just for the repair not inc. maintenance.
wah.i love the red color..
Whatever it is, Proton has brought the most anticipate Mitsubishi Lancer so-called Inspira to our Boleh-land and therefore the middle income will definitely enjoy the privilege for such sporty car indeed. To all of you out there, thing works like this, if you do feel that the car is suitable for you and your pocket, so the decision is yours. Frankly speaking, there’s no need to compare with any price in the world as long as you still breathing the same air as what all the Malaysian does. Just be realistic, bro… !!!
Yup i agree with you DuoGillor… for me, nothing is perfect… Lancer,Audi or Proton and other car in this world surely got advantage and disadvantage.. dont judge with your own heart and your own felling. Open your mind.. be profesional.. I proud to be malaysian and i supported malaysia with what proton is done so far.. Bukalah mata, pikir ke hadapan.. <<>>
Yes, me too agreed with you. I hate Malaysian who hate their own branding. Why so proud with other brands? you are not getting richer if you drive Mercedes or BMW or Lancer if your salary is just RM3k a month. Be realistic. I might buy this car although I can afford the Lancer. Excess money I can save for property investment and travel. I hate poser, drive fancy car but with no money, no asset.
so why are all these proton fanboys pretending to kesian the ori lancer boys. they dont need your kesian. sombong bodoh kut? cannot really afford jap cars, maybe? but definitely thankful to proton for allowing them to buy a jap-like car which otherwise they can only dream of.
Errrr i don’t think the proton fanboy generalization is correct.
These people who say kesian is actually a Jap wannabe type who cannot afford a real Japanese car but instead maybe currently driving in their Perodua Myvi’s or old mitsubishi based proton’s dreaming owning and Evo and ejaculated when seeing this inspira but sadly many of them cannot afford it.
They should be generalize as Jap wannabe, Ah Beng’s or perhaps P2 gayboys to be exact.
Here’s a few fact finding and thoughts on this:-
1. PROTON will never change so as long as they can be priced lower than foreign competitors (due to excise protection, AP, etc). All the talks about how much it costs to design a car from stratch was just another poor PR attempt to hide the fact that PROTON is unwilling to spend on investing for the future (R&D).
2. PROTON is looking to the PAST as they continue to “move forward”. Every major car company has a flagship product, even PERODUA with MyVi. Once again, we will be last car company to release a hybrid model – and not suprisingly, it will be a rebadge of another car model (hint: mitsubishi)
3. MITSUBISHI will release its newer generation of the lancer next year – desperately wanting to distance themselves with twin brother.
4. PROTON continues to fail in other areas. Have they improved their after-sale car services? Its still rated and ranked the lowest of all car companies in Malaysia. No surprise here.
5. MALAYSIANS will continue to be misled by PROTON’s marketing campaigns and the irrestitable temptation of “lower priced car for higher variety of specs”. LIttle did many realized (but most will find out), PROTON cars will eventually become “lower priced cars for lower quality specs. Let’s wait and see the durability and shelf life of their power windows :)
My own personal quote and parting shot for PROTON: Immitation is the lowest form of creativity.
ar…boof boof….does that mean your beloved MYVI is not an imitation and is an expression of art?
google search first before mentioning MYVI as flagship model….lol….how i wonder any of PERODUA model is not so called “imitation”….it is rebadging if u dunno the word for it…
i guess u r those girly guys who drive MYVI around and pretend its FERRARI….
u make me laugh out loud….
boof>>(PROTON is looking to the PAST as they continue to “move forward”. Every major car company has a flagship product, even PERODUA with MyVi)
myVi>passo..
nautica>rush
kancil>mira daihatsu
others u can search yrself..
proton got Neo,Gen2,new Saga,Exora,Waja..
check yr fact
==’
so narrow minded
Typical Malaysian attitude. Maybe u jokers dont understand how hard it is in ANY industry for two competitors to work with each other. In this case, both Mitsubishi and Proton are willing to work to achieve Market Share and accessibility for Proton while increasing return on capital employed for Mitsubishi. You have this idea that Mitsubishi is Soooo great. You don’t see them in the top 10 of cars being sold around the world.
MMC do joint co-op with GM, Hyundai to develop the 4G11 for years. When they came out with it, the german turbos moved in, CO2 emissions went up. Hello! That’s money loss already ok! They put money in to develop but did not get to enjoy the benefits.
Kalau dah bodoh tu bodoh gak.
Why don’t we celebrate collaborations and cooperation? Why don’t we encourage pooling of assets to achieve a common goal? I am so sick of selfish egocentric Malaysians right now. I am so sick because I do not want to be seen as having the same close minded attitude that my fellow contryman enjoy to potray to the world.
Correctly put
which colors you will take ? Lets vote and comment. (im black)
which colors you will take ? Lets vote and comment. (for me any color and i take black)
red please… just choose only…don’t have money to buy this car
red too!…looks fierce & also i’m a liverpool supporter..wakakakaka
white.
white is dangerous <– u know, helang pdrm evo is also white..hehe
the good part,u can buy cheaper mitsubishi with proton logo, the mod accesories shop are so happy now,they gonna sell more mitsubishi badge & body kit from these inspira owner…haha
actually ,proton do these is to cut cost or else 20k proton staffs gonna lose their job soon!
it a good car, i just like it
Forte better!
I LIKE HOW THEY MADE SOOOO MUCH EFFORT FOR THIS PRESENTATION, AS IF PPL DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THE CAR WILL TURN OUT TO BE …. (just a rebadged Lancer)
LOL – Serious Orchestra Music …. with all the flashing lights ….. artificial fog in creating pure mystery and suspence…
but turn out just a Lancer with a Proton badge :)
PROTON Inspira ~ RM 92K cheap ?dont be cheated by proton !!
MITSUBISHI LANCER 2.0 GT ( 115K to 120k )
– fully imported
– sporty bodykit from lancer
– 18 inches imported rims
– 6-disc in-dash CD changer with a 6-speaker audio system,
– Nappa leather is a full-grain leather, typically dyed, made from unsplit kid-, lamb- or sheep-skin, and noted for softness and durability.
– Mitsubishi original logo !
Pronton Inspira 2.0 ( save 20k over )..but u get …
– local assemble,less tax….
– weird bodykit …i dont like the bodykit…not match the car,more side family car…
– 16 inches local alloy rims
– cd,changer with 4 ways speaker
– local made leather sit with weird design…..
– the rubber of the door frame….worse than MIT LANCER
– Proton logo…the class a bit lower than MIT logo….(this i personal feel la…)
– other country friends asking u drive what typr of car….will u answer them u drive lance or inspira….thats the different…..between the 20k….
if u wont care all i highlight above….this Proton INSPIRA WORTH IT lol…..
MYVI is a rebadge but a lot of people still buy bcoz it is affordable for middle income range.
INSPIRA also is a rebadge but at higher price level bcoz of different car segment.
u guys bash this inspira simply bcoz u cant afford it!
JUST ADMIT IT!!
well 20k a lot of money though…can save up fuel for 10years or downpayment for a house…you think about it if it WORTH or not
20k is a lot man. You can change the rim, bodykit and all that with that 20k and still have balance.. and fully import car also assemble by human being.
20K is about cheaper by RM243/month on installment (based on 3.5% interest, 9 years repayment). Probably save for half month petrol. Why should I pay more to get a same product?
9 years on HP?!
Who actually cares? The point is we get a cheaper mitsu base vehicle and high performance engine. All the accessories (rims, audio, leather seat) sume bole tuka maa..
m’sian people are trained to be so creative with cars that even Vios, Honda City and Honda Civic owner also over-done their cars with colorful lights and fancy2 accessories, audio, spoiler and bodykits.
So Inspira is purposely meant to have mild cosmetic change so that m’sian car owner can show a bit of their creativity la..
If don’t want, just buy all the mitsu parts (bumpers, audio system, rims, bodykit, logo) and replace. Won’t even cost you rm20k.
btw, the Inspira rear bumper is nicer than lancer gt. congrats :)
MIT LANCER got keyless entry,proton dunt have…..if u bought proton…still need to modi urself?somemore…u will easily cheated by accesory car shop ,change to low quality parts mean bumpers,audio,rims….can u tell me where can fit NAPPA leather seat?i am worried that the quality of engine side of proton not really same with MIT LANCER…is it engine both of these cars is 100% same ?
Dude, havent u read anything in PT? Proton was not allowed to touch the engine and transmission. So, of coz 100% same.
Where to get Nappa leather….this one u can easily Google la….
ni mesti pnah kena tipu ngan kedai acc ni….
you forgot big thing being put in the inspira – it’s the LOTUS dna
it’s much better than old lancer handling
better try it at corners , trash the both cars here and there
you will know how superior it’s than many modern cars
only can drooling at the shwroom…still cant afford. gua miskin bandar..
25 tahun dalam dunia automotif,inilah hasil yang mampu dilahirkan oleh anak tempatan?siapa kata malaysia tak mampu??malaysia boleh!!! hakikatnya proton tidak memberi peluang kepada anak tempatan menghasilkan idea sendiri hanya kerana syarikat kereta pertama tempatan ini ingin menutup kerugian yang dialami selama beberapa tahun semenjak kemunculan perodua yang lebih kreatif dalam dunia pemasaran serta kualiti. satu soalan yang timbul,kenapa proton tidak mahu keluar kan kereta yang berteknologi tinggi??proton beli saham lotus..mungkin suspensi dan lambang lotus sahaja yang mampu proton gunakan untuk pasaran tempatan..akhir sekali,kita ada hak memilih yang tulen ataupun yang tiruan..kerajaan menegaskan dan melarang kita beli dvd ataupun barangan tiruan..tetapi syarikat besar seperti proton telah menunjukkan bahawa malaysia masih lagi belum keluar dunia tiruan.. kita ada akal dan pendapat tersendiri jadi sebagai manusia,kita boleh fikirkan mana yang terbaik untuk diri sendiri.
Betul Perodua amat kreatif dari segi pemasaran dan teknologi saya setuju dengan En China (Troll Intended)
engkau nih suku sakat Bung Mokhtar tu ke apo?
barang tiruan and kerjasama lain..ko nak compare bagi la contoh yang sama…baru skali proton rebadge and tuning dah bising..untuk pengetahuan ko,lotus bukan sahaja bagi badge and suspensi,utk driving dynamic,chasis juga memainkan peranan..
Im sure u must be zero in Copyright Act 1987 & Trade Descriptions Act 1972.
kalau nak cakap pasal barang tiruan, cetak rompak, tulen tak tulen rujuk dulu 2 akta di atas tu. jgn bercakap pakai akal dan pendapat tersendiri sebagai manusia.
Cheer…
tulis panjang2, ingatkn ada isi baru, rupanya cut&paste je.
xde originality.
cuba bezakan maksud perkataan2 ini:
1. imitation, fake = tiruan, palsu.
eg.
Mr X: “wah, mmg cantik jam tag heuer auto chronograph ko tu. berapa ribu $ ko beli?”
Mr S: “rm350 je. grade AA swiss casing tau. enjin miyota pakai bateri..”
2. licensed product = produk yg dilesenkn, mendapat keizinan.
eg.
Mr X: “mana satu yg ori model robot macross ni, kaiyodo, bandai atau yamato ke?”
Mr S: “sume to ori la. diorg dpt kebenaran sunrise utk produce produk2 tu”
Chino,
Definasi “tiruan” adalah sesuatu yang dihasilkan menyerupai sesuatu yang lain TANPA IZIN pengeluar asal. Isu tiruan tak timbul bro. Sorry. This is a certified PROTON-MITSUBISHI collaboration. Kalau nak kereta tiruan go look at the Chinese brands… melambak.
100% sokong !!! Sungguh bangga Proton dapat colllaaborrationn dengan orang Jepun.
balik-balik lepas 25 tahun , balik-balik 25 tahun, cerita yang sama je , naik meluat la baca komen macam ni, kau ni SA kereta import ke? berapa diorang bayar kau hah? takat nak kutuk inspira baik tak payah, semua orang dah tau inspira memang best, kalau civic baru keluar pun belum tentu dapat overshadow inspira
work hard instead of drooling then..what a loser..
Proton = Authorized Local Distributor for Lancer
After 25 years, Proton is back with the day 1 strategy, re-Label.
In the past 25 years, citizen had been were sponsoring Proton by paying more for to get an average car. In return Proton failed to produce a good quality and affordable car that Malaysian can be proud of. Where does all the money goes to ? How much longer citizen need to continue sponsoring Proton ?
ada inspira evo x?
I wonder who will buy an Inspira in Langkawi? If you can get a cheaper CBU Lancer from Japan.
How the Proton sales person going to convince their customers?
Anyone got ideal? LOL
easy job, stop the import of CBU lancer to langkawi. we should proud with our country, everything also can do. BOLEH
talking about langkawi and labuan cheap cars, sorry to say, market is not so big up there.
still many nelayan/orang kampung there, nama je kereta murah, belum tentu mampu beli. mentaliti still very kampung + dengki sama sendiri.
itu yg Dr. M menitis air mata lihat orang langkawi masih di zaman mahsuri.
only rich when LIMA come in every 2 alternate years. the rest? resort & hotel operators, owners, officers… berapa kerat aje la kat langkawi tu. taunya beer murah, mabuk free, maksiat.
labuan, may be TUDM/air force high-ranking officers. middle-rank and below cukup makan je la, belum tentu dapat beli 60-70k car kalau tak beringat/pandai berjimat.
siapa pandai, ada sedara, beli la kat langkawi or labuan. simpan 5 tahun. cross your fingers, pastu bawak balik mainland, jual. ada ong dapat la untung.
70k kalau beli sekarang, after 5 yrs (5k x 5 = 25k depreciation) jadi la 45k. harga mainland 92k now, minus 25k after 5 yrs jadi la 67k. dapat la 22k profit.
tu pun kalau future buyer tak tanya banyak. kalau dia question “ini kereta langkawi” kena potong lagi 10k. dapat la 12k untung. 12k profit in 5 yrs = RM2,400 a year = RM200 a month. Bad investment.
In fact if people who calculate all the factors, which involve the purchase of the car either direct or indirect, I mean no matter now or in the future, but it take an effect due to purchase of the car, who do careful consideration and studies, not only in Langkawi, but anywhere else, will take Lancer.
At least a CKD lancer.
no need to convince people. advertising will brainwash people to buy this car (or anything)
malaysian like to buy new car even though they’re like @%234
Never mind lah, let Mitsu rule in Langkawi….small market only.
I am more afraid many users not familiar with how CVT works and it is normal for us to overload our carts during holiday breaks.
Whether re-badge or not never mind, lets focus on the actual product. It will not be exactly the same as a CBU Lancer which can almost be confirmed will lose most of it’s potential customers by yesterday.
Good or not good, difficult for new Lancer buyer to justify big price gap especially when they look so similar externally.
Might as well try something different like Civic Hybrid……….
haha! national pride obviously does not sell cars langkawi and labuan, where proton really has to compete with the other brands.
do inspira will sell in australia? how much?
I wonder if they try to export it?
In the UK market they need a diesel.
Mike/Liverpool
OMG!!!..this reminds me of university or college assignments …u copy n paste …u get
sources from wikipedia n change the italic or bold words into normal style n lecturers
pretends not to know about it ..i guess proton engineers has mastered these skills in their university/college time n they applying it real world now..:).. i guess our rakyat’s money have not gone into the R&D dept of proton..The tax money that we give have landed in the land of rising sun(Japan)…Our money is burnt because of the rising sun ..:)
Talk about italic/bold words (lancer sportiness/aggresiveness look) into normal style (inspira family look alike design)..:)
i wonder whether ur comment is a product of cut&paste technology as well :P
I am not inspired by the Inspira. Only dumb guys will get it! It’s a photocopy of Lancer. Clone clone clone! No originality at all!
Adik…its a rebadge. Where u study? Pluto eh?
You better go find your own factory and build a Dream car on your own..come on Dream On…go for it! I support you from behind!! Come on2!!
ya true.. don’t be so silly juz comment without read it first.. lol
I sat on the driver seat, wow it was so gorgeous, it definitely can beat altis and civic.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What gorgeous to you might not be to others. But I respect your blindness as love is blind.
by considering the driver seat, how come you can conclude that this re-badge can beat other car? weird!!
Paul, any word on the maintenance costs for Inspira?
Interesting last selling price of the 2.0 lit Perdana was around 100k!!!!!
That was a bigger car some more.
Other than the engine and gearbox, it was quite good.
Lotus handling or Proton handling just marketing ploy. The Mitsu guys could only compliment this part………as courtesy only.
By changing the rim to a smaller one, you will get a much better ride already.
All the sharp cornering, etc………driver experience and skill makes the difference. Just look at the Peugeot 207 “extreme” video.
Proton smart not to use Lotus handling becos indirectly benefit Mitsubishi!
Lotus now change direction already with new solid models therefore better not spoil the brand.
The Inspira will be a top-seller simply becos it is has been priced correctly.
Quality and reliability…..haven’t use, how to know whether good or not.
Even Vios/City potential purchaser will be moved. Only those with bad experience with Proton cars maybe not so keen.
lotus handling is not a hu ha for marketing…..the handling is much more better than lancer.and it was not courtesy for mitsu engineer for the compliment..even they admitted during the proton drive all the way to east coast (test drive of the lancer)..the persona suspension is good.
hahaha lotus handling is not a joke lah, you didn’t see how fast a persona can take corners at karak highway, it’s like moving on straight road i tell you, can you do that with other cars? i don’t think the driver is so good in it, nor the smaller tyres contribute to that superb handling, it’s the LOTUS handling, ok?
“Proton deliberately wanted to move away from the Lancer “too aggressive” look, according to the engineers”…ah…coz that’s the only part they know how to change…but i guess soon alot of ppl will buy mitsu grille/front bumper to get the evo x look anyway…some will even go to extend to stick a mitsu badge just like some wira/waja users ^^
Lancer EX in Brunei is –
manual GT spec – B$33100
manual EX spec – B$27000
Auto GT spec – B$34000
Auto EX spec – B$29000
heheh
Haiyooo….thier currency value is different la….where u study? Pluto? There, even a fisherman has a BMW.
yes, their value is different.. but their engineer, accountant earn B$6000 to B$7000 while ours earn RM6000 to RM7000.. so. they are better off than us… in the amount of things they can buy with the money they earn.. it is just not about the currency value.. their standard of living and ability to buy more things with the money they earn doing the same type of job is superior to us…
yes, we study in Pluto.. maybe, you should study there to.. since you are too stupid to figure this out and buy into the Msian govt cheaper comparison bullshit.
I think I want to buy the original lancer and rebaged it into inspira… thats what I call a truly malaysian
MIT Lancer GT got keyless entry…
Proton Lancer..dont have !!
Mit Lancer = i feel is original cd.
Proton Lancer =i feel is pirated cd….copy,burn only….
Pirated CD no need to pay royalty to the owner…Inspira need to pay something to MMC..your equation not rite then…
Pirated CD is a stolen product
inspira hybrid anybody?
“Seperti yang dijelaskan sebelum ini bahawa Proton Inspira bukan model yang ‘rebadging’ seperti yang diperkatakan tetapi ia adalah bentuk usaha sama antara Proton dan MMC yang dimulakan sejak dua tahun lalu,” Pengarah Urusan Kumpulan Proton Holdings Bhd. (Proton), Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir.
The Star 11/11/10 :
“Proton decided to defer the project but Mitsubishi carried on with the platform and upper body development which became the Mitsubishi Lancer…rather than restart the project from scratch, Proton decided to use the Lancer as a new starting point…Mitsubishi gave the green light to the suspension tweaking”
DSZ said joint-development car…Zulkifli said Proton used the existing Lancer
and added to it…
Inspira’s project manager Zulkifli Bidin clarified several matters…Zulkifli said Mitsubishi was willing to allow Proton to **rebadge** the Lancer as the Inspira **without changing** any key features.
DSZ said not rebadge…Zulkifli said rebadge
“We felt that our engineers who had trained under our subsidiary, Lotus Engineering, were able to improve the driving dynamics and handling of the Lancer,” he said.
Proton said Lotus Ride and Handling…Zulkifli said Proton engineers who
once trained under Lotus tweaked the Inspira
just check the pamplet, it says “proton ride & handling” not “lotus ride & handling”
FAReast :
why Lotus’ name keep coming up?…in news report…in forums…in reviews…in speeches…?…is there an expectation being raised that Lotus has a hand in the handling?
farghmee :
is Proton riding on Lotus’ name if it was not their work? that is misrepresentation…
i might be wrong…
Lotus is a subsidiary of Proton. No?
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/11/11/nation/7407689&sec=nation
At a special media briefing held at Proton’s Centre of Excellence recently, Inspira’s project manager Zulkifli Bidin clarified several matters.
He said the Waja’s replacement model originally started out as a joint development project between Proton and Mitsubishi Motors Corp three years ago.
“Under the project, Mitsubishi and Proton were to use their own upper body designs, which would result in two very distinctive models.
“But because of the economic downturn, Proton decided to defer the project but Mitsubishi carried on with the platform and upper body development which became the Mitsubishi Lancer,” he said.
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The current Lancer came out in 2007. Yet he says the Waja replacement model work started 3 years ago, Proton deferred the project but Mitsu carried on with the platform and upper body development, which became the Mitsu Lancer?!
Why some Japanese keeping quite and seem numbs about this during the briefing? I wonder?
The Star 11/11/10 :
Inspira’s project manager Zulkifli Bidin clarified several matters…Zulkifli said Mitsubishi was willing to allow Proton to rebadge the Lancer as the Inspira without changing any key features.
Rebadge as a business approach is not a problem…but at least get your stories straight lah
Proton…
Please Photoshop a bit-lah your interior promo picture for 1.8 AT model. Notice a few inconsistent gaps and finishes. Then how to CON all this ‘living in denial’ Proton fans?
why need to photoshop???it is the same as mitsu, so ask mitsu why do a low quality finish for the interior mold lol
Oii Mat, go and work in advertising agency then you will know. Because Mitsubishi asked their advertising/marketing agency to perfectly Photoshop theirs and Proton didn’t.
Poor mits owner, lets together cry for them. Proton Inspira really amazing, very good.
if u really want something different, better consider Toyota. no matter how, Toyota still the strongest in the world.
Proton done a good job, Mits please end your business
why? bcos the car has become more common? too late! i see lancers everywhere these days…
actually they should be rejoicing… suddenly parts for their car has become much more available and cheaper… wait til the lancer owners have to change the CVT belt. oh they will be crying but at least they can still afford a drink later instead of thinking about selling.
oh yea, 2nd car value MIGHT be lower (5%?)… it could even increase?!? oh the horror!
mitsu close shop? natural progression … 2b12 lancer wit twin clutch sst … your rant is invalid
Not really. Ford tops the list of the top-earning car manufacturer in the world. Even GM’s revenue beat Toyota, even if it’s not that much.
agreed…Mitsubishi Malaysia was indirectly ordered to commit hara-kiri by Mitsubishi Japan…
agreed…Mitsubishi should gulung tikar…Mitsubishi Malaysia have been indirectly told to commit hara-kiri by their Shogun (Mitsubishi Japan)…
do you seriously think that MMC can allow this whole rebadge fiasco without approval from MItsu Japan? Biar btol bro…Where and who do u think hold the copyright and IP?
Do u seriously think MMC has the power to agree on this whole rebadge fiasco without Mitsu Japan approval? MMC is a part of Mitsubshi…
U are just frustrated. I understand that but please put more thoughts and less emotions, k….
Bro Apax
MMC in Japan…MMM in Malaysia…MMM is joint venture between MMC and a local partner…MMM deny involvement in the Inspira…MMM’s Tetsuya Oda said Inspira is between Proton and MMC…
Ok…based on above…I am saying MMC did the tie-up with Proton…and left MMM to suffer here…suffer from condemnation from Lancer owners and less (or zero) Lancer sales after this…and suffer from loss of local brand credibility…hara-kiri…do you understand now?
i bought lancer gt last year, and very happy with my car. When i did research on the car, i knew proton will come out with WALAN, but i had impression it would be 1.5 n 1.8 versions. Take note that most of lancers fm singapore are 1.5l version.
I still drive my 11 years wira as well, and 4 me, one proton is enuff.
The best part in introducing inspira is the prices of spare parts will be lower for lancer, and more after-market parts would be available.
Lastly, i would like to ask MMM to give the current lancer user rebate in terms of servicing, as per service cost more than RM400. MMM also should give us the additional accessories that are available in inspira, such as auto headlamp, rain detector and GPS which is not available in GT, Tks
still a hot debate for inspira….one of the thing come into question is the material and build quality..some say Lancer is better koz it is CBU…i own a CBU jap car.after 2 years…i can hear a lot of rattle sound from the door panel and dashboard…it frustrates me koz all the noise are annoying,,,sometimes is it happen only to my car?then i did ask a few of my friend who own a CBU car japan.they also have quality problems.then i decided to sell the car and buy a continental car.the build quality is superb, NVH is great..all round the car is damn good.but later when it comes to change wear and tear items..then you know!!…how expensive is the parts. i have no problem to accept the existence of inspira and mitsu knows they cannot sell lancer…how many units they sell per month compare to civic?too far.latest i heard that mitsu is going to rebadge EXORA?is that true?if it is..mitsu more or less the same as proton and even worst koz they are a really2 old company compare to proton….i wish proton all the best…but i do hope there will be no more on rebadge….waiting for EMAS,exora hybrid and PERSONA R.
Poor Mits lancer owner, really pity, lets together cry for them for half second.
Proton done a very good job, help Mits’s sale and promote self product. well done.
seems Toyota very much stronger and better than poor Mits…..
“What do you think, Lance?”
“It’s an amazing machine”
– quotes from movie : The Fast and the Furious (2001)
The Proton Inspira, is the leather in the interior real leather or synthetic leather?
Besides, is the CVT real CVT or INVEC III Auto transmission?
leather or synthethetic small matter la friend…duhhh
Next time a Proton Inspira will kiss a Lamborghini butt. Living in denial!
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af196/mautau_cg/wiravsferrari.jpg
proton..other carmakers rebadge , they also want to rebadge..following the trend?
at least those carmakers make million units every years and sell their original car all over the world. so they have prove their worth..proton should do just that ..export their car to the world just like the korean..if proton can do that ,then it would not bother me abit if they want to rebadge other car..but for now, i dont feel pride with the inspira
Who cares about your pride. The world does not revolve around you.
doesnt proton already export cars overseas?
Still better value, looks and spacious than the most worst looking car on earth (The ugly duckling dugong VIOS)
komen kwn2 aku :
kalau orang pakai evo kutuk orang pakai inspira… maksudnya dia tak bersyukur dan bermegah dengan kemampuan dia….
kalau orang yang tak mampu pakai evo.. kutuk orang pakai inspira.. maksudnya dia tu tak sedar diri dan berlagak tak kena tempat…
orang yang tak mampu pakai inspira… kutuk orang pakai inspira.. maksudnya… lu pikir la sendiri….
Apa pun adalah lebih baik ada kete tiruan ni daripada tiada dan lebih cantik kete tiruan dari kete yang asalnye kete lain tapi dibega-bega nak dijadikan kete idaman mengikut citarasa sendiri….ukur baju di badan sendiri, tepuk dada tanya selera..
Bro.. your komen the best! :)
i feel so touched with your comment =~)
I have owned a Waja 1.6 for nearly 10 years that is currently driven by my wife. The car has served us well. We have been looking to upgrade it to the new Waja (now launched as the Inspira).
I was expecting the Inspira to be in the region of RM70-80,000 and was a bit disappointed with its estimated price of between RM79-94,000.
Nevertheless, with the promise of it being similar to the Mitsubishi Lancer, we decided to stretch our budget and get the 2.0 at RM94,000. I have placed my booking and was anxiously waiting for our car.
Then I got to know that the 2.0 Lancer GT is selling in Langkawi at RM71,800 (OTR).
I called up a Proton dealer in Langkawi and was informed that the tentative OTR price for Inspira 2.0A metallic in Langkawi is RM84,850. This price listing can also be found in the internet.
This to me is very upsetting.
I cannot understand why the Lancer CBU (fully imported from Japan) can sell in Langkawi for RM72,000 whereas the locally assembled Inspira (with 26 percent local parts) is retailing at RM85,000 in Langkawi.
(Note: the Langkawi pricing gives us an idea as to what the base price of cars really are without taxes)
Because of the similarity between the Lancer and the Inspira, this is the first time we can actually make such a comparison.
Shouldn’t Proton be selling the rebadged Lancer at a lower price or at least similar base price with the CBU Lancer (in Langkawi)?
If the base pricing of the Inspira 2.0 was RM72,000 in Langkawi (like the Lancer), then its pricing in the Peninsula should be in the region of RM81,000.(based on the existing RM9,000 differential between the Inspira in Langkawi and Peninsular Malaysia.)
I am sure that at RM72,000, the Lancer in tax-free Langkawi is still making a profit.
Therefore I see no reason why Proton can’t sell the Inspira in Peninsular Malaysia at RM70,000 (1.8 model) – RM80,000 (2.0).
I find this RM13,000 base price differential wholly unacceptable.
If that is the cost of rebadging and localisation, Proton will never be able to compete without protectionism.
25 years later, Proton turns a full circle back to where it started that is rebadging Mitsubishis.
I don’t really mind that, as at least we get better quality cars wherein the Inspira promises to be the best Proton yet.
What I cannot accept is that after 25 years, we are still required to prop up Proton by paying inflated prices for Proton itself.
Some may say that RM13,000 extra for the Inspira is to help pay Proton the development cost of the Inspira.
What development cost? It’s a Lancer with different bumpers/seats, rims, tyres and suspension.
If that costs an extra RM13,000, Proton should have just CKDed (completely knocked down) the Lancer as Naza is doing with the Kia Forte.
What about the millions of Malaysians who have to continue to subsidise a company that after 25 years cannot stand on its own and in all probability may not be able to do so in another 25 years.
One man’s dream which was forced onto the nation has now turned into a nation’s nightmare.
Malaysia should cut its losses.
The only viable solution for Proton would be to do contract manufacturing for foreign manufacturers like DRB and Inokom.
Maybe then we will get an Inspira that costs less than a Lancer in Langkawi.
Re: “I cannot understand why the Lancer CBU (fully imported from Japan) can sell in Langkawi for RM72,000 whereas the locally assembled Inspira (with 26 percent local parts) is retailing at RM85,000 in Langkawi.”
Not defending proton or perodua or naza or inokom or hicom or wahtever AP related organisation of this great land of semua boleh …. but I think becuase of this:
1) Mitsu Motor (M) Sdn Bhd import Lancer to Langkawi —> not taxed. —> close to original price.
2) Proton import parts from Nippon to Kelang Port —> taxed —-> put them together —> total price more than original price because tax included —-> ship to langkawi at higher price.
Basically, the Inspira(tion) is taxed when “imported”…. but the Lancer is not.
Hey Dominic, I did not know u read paultan ..
It’s hard to comment. I myself was surprised when Langkawi prices for Inspira’s more than the Lancer. It should be less of course. But if we were to speculate as to the price difference it could be several factors:
1) A gentleman’s agreement between Mitsubishi & Proton, in which Proton doesn’t undercut Lancer’s price in tax free locations like Langkawi.
2) The royalty charged by Mitsubishi is also part of the price.
And don’t forget, Proton have done some modifications to the Lancer like better NVH, suspension tuning, better cooling for the CVT gearbox. That could probably add to some of the difference. Maybe we could ask Paul to review both cars side by side so that he can give his professional opinion on whether the changes Proton made warrants the higher price.
Maybe the price difference is the royalty (or whatever u call it) that Proton pays to Mitsu? Has anyone ever consider this? OR do u expect Mitsu to gain nothing from the deal? bagi FREE-FREE jer ker?
Really do not understand what make you so upset, what you need to do is cancel your order and buy a Toyota Vios/ or you can wait for Persona R, no need to grumble everywhere (really everywhere, almost all papers, website also can see your comment, repeat & repeat again).
Only Langkawi price is high, and you are not stay in Langkawi, why bother?
Those people they stay in Langkawi, will not buy this car anyway, you can get Civic/Lancer/Altis at RM 70K ++, you want to pay RM 80k ++ for Inspira?
EXACTLY!!!! Freaking overpriced proton that forces all other car manufacturers to raise their price!! they should just sell their shares to VW and shut down. at least we can have made in malaysia passats and golf for a decent price.
i think you all should be thankful to proton because they can produced a car with high spec with lower price.if not,we still chasing the expensive car.more than what we capable..=) go proton!
You said “they can produced a car with high spec with lower price” ? Which model ? Toyota Coralla 2.4 litre only RM 54000 in US you know ? Sugar High ke you ?
How about the second value of Inspira? You not gonna use it for 15 year arent u? If in 9 years, the 2nd value is half (best effort la ni)..then its ok to choose inspira. i bet not..look at the other model.drop price like crazy..
imho, proton cars is ok if the price is below 50k. kalau jatuh harga 2nd pun, tak terasa sangat..i owned myself a persona elegance.very base line manual, only 46k. monthly installment for rm560 for 9 years. ok la with executive cabuk like me.to pay over 1k per month for inspira, its just nonsense..
compared to lancer, i guess its waaaaayyy differ..national car should be affordable..bout price in langkawi, it second my nonsense.
you buy inspira, re-rebadge to mitsu back.taraaa….jadilah lancer..
i second your comment, i drive the Persona yg terbasic tu.. got during they offer scrap 5k last time. is very happy with the car.. but ppl kat SC tu yang buat hal.. standard warranty dah habis baru bagi tau part yg deffect tu boleh tukar kalau bagi tau awal2. WATTA FLICK!
rasa macam nak cekik mamat tu…sbb u can refer to my record, i service my PErsona kat sana since day 1 so, no doubt Inspira is a good car.. but with this experience… i will not choose PROTON again. beli Dugong lagi baik..
well… U think the Toyota people wont do this to U??
I know there’s a case Toyota cekik a owner for RM11k..
A similar case as yours… dragging the case until after warranty habis only ask the owner do the repair~!! And end up need rm11k to do the repair~
one fact: The salesman all are human.. They need money to live and be richer..Just like U.
So next time we should be smart abit.. We learnt from here.. whenever we found any weirdo case in our car.. Check it out immediately with the pomen….Make them do the repair or replacement…
If we miss out.. It’s too bad lo~
It’s not Proton Problem~!! It’s the pomen or ur problem~!!
still the Proton legendary customer service prevails.
TRUST ME zimba, NO WAY he is going to buy a Proton again with this type of experience
if 70%/60% come from mitsu, shud owner lancer be laughing qt inspira owner???
i’ve checki that even the front and rear windscreen come from mmc itself, not made in malaysia.
so who will be laughing now???
maybe me>>>and by the way, inspira expensive in langkawi becoz they have to pay royalty to mitsu, if mitsu sell lancer 72k, that is for mtsu profit only, now proton also want profit, so 10 k is proton profit/mitsu royalty.
by the way, many features upgraded from original lancer from malaysia such as isofix(misu lancer euro spec), rain and light sensor,welcome home and coming home light, ride and handling…so all the gadgets is available for mitsubishi lancer euro spec, which is not sold in malaysia.
so of course the price will be different. so actually we get lancer spec euro when we buy inspira compare to original lancer which use asian spec. so, smart guy get it…….
if 70%/60% come from mitsu, shud owner lancer be laughing qt inspira owner???
i’ve checki that even the front and rear windscreen come from mmc itself, not made in malaysia.
so who will be laughing now???
maybe me>>>and by the way, inspira expensive in langkawi becoz they have to pay royalty to mitsu, if mitsu sell lancer 72k, that is for mtsu profit only, now proton also want profit, so 10 k is proton profit/mitsu royalty.
by the way, many features upgraded from original lancer from malaysia such as isofix(misu lancer euro spec), rain and light sensor,welcome home and coming home light, ride and handling…so all the gadgets is available for mitsubishi lancer euro spec, which is not sold in malaysia.
so of course the price will be different. so actually we get lancer spec euro when we buy inspira compare to original lancer which use asian spec. so, smart guy get it.
bubye
Cannot be lah…….Mitsubishi just make less money only.
We have to remember the same base price used to calculate for Peninsula.
The windscreen maybe local item, just use back MMC logo only.
so it’s a rebadge lancer….so it’s a proton…. so it’s going back to square 1…..
who cares…
i always wish they brought in the 1.8 civic wit MT tranny…
instead we get a mitsu/proton hybrid… which is absolutely BETTER!
haters will be haters, you cant change that. BUT wen it actually comes to buying a car alot of things come into play. why does P2’s myvi sell so well even tho it’s flawed(not much room for luggage/ underpowered / hi fuel consumption ratio)? preception: it’s the iphone of automative (Malaysia Only). it’s like “hello kitty” at McD again. you just have got to have one. by the way guess how many ppl driving a myvi actually owns a iphone and/or wants an iphone. ALOT.
but to me it’s always down to basic: affordability (BUDGET/Maintenance), build quality, reliability, performance, comfort and then lastly design.
lets face it, our country is design to destroy cars… it’s too humid, it rains half the time, it’s burning hot the other half, the roads are not gentle on the cars, ppl generally drive too fast/slow and even when properly parked some one will manage to hit your car.
i’ve seen zondas with flooded tail lamps, merc e-class (w211) refusing to start for no apparent reason, BMW m5 (e60) unable to engage “M” mode, and …ALFAs! burning to ashes….
the short of it is that the inspira meets alot of the above criteria. and when it doesn’t i can always modify to meet expectations or fix it for cheap. I don’t want a situation where it cost more replacing a new gearbox than the actual value of the car…
I remember when Proton launch SAVVY, it’s like an entry level car in the World, but what happened now?
What’s an entry level car in the World? What’s the cars that a fresh grad should be buying?
Or a parents should be buying for their college sons/daughters?
It’s probably an entry level VW Polo, which most M’sian still cannot afford.
I would like to see my child to be able to buy his/her own entry level car, which is equivalent to the 1st World country.
I do not wish to see M’sian happily owning a secondhand UK-spec recon car. Which may not even be available in UK junk yard, but happily on M’sian road.
Same goes to Toyota Estima, etc.
I do not understand why are we so happy buying a recon car from 1st World country?
When is Proton, Naza, P2 gonna treat the rakyat as 1st World country?
Please try not to treat us as 3rd World country.
im totolly agree with u, feel so disappointed with all these malaysian who are so happy bout this, for me, its a shameful event, juz like one stay in a confined room and telling oneself that he is the king of the world
Inspira is not an entry level car, genius. It is not meant for fresh grads unless your parents are rich and generous people. There is always the saga and persona.
Toyota Collora , Honda Civic, Nissan Sentra, VW Jetta, Hyundai Elantra , etc ,etc ….., these are entry level car in the US, are we far way from becoming a 1st World country? Who’s treating us as 3rd World country?
LOL,
You are comparing a POLO and a Saga ? PLZZZZZZ
what? vw polo is an entry level car? ok, please go and buy it for your children and don’t ask for money here, noone will give it to you
I think U all have misunderstood ‘Unforgiven”s point..
He is trying to say that: In europe, VW Polo is an entry level car.. so the students there use this car…
Well.. from the fact
The Polo @ europe is priced @ € 13,825 =58,388.58 MYR
http://www.cars-of-europe.com/volkswagen/volkswagen_polo_14_tdi_ktb1570.shtml
So.. ‘Unforgiven’s point of view seem abit not logical.
VW Polo itself is also an basic car which is similar to Myvi only. Just a more powerful engine.. Interior is still very simple.( U can go showroom and check it out)
Well… My point here is to clarify that U dont compare other’s market to Malaysia Market..
VW Polo is rm60k @ europe… we got a RM25k (viva) or RM 35k(Saga) as the entry level~!
When we have a CHANGE M’sia with (-) corruption and (-) protection, maybe the VW Polo will be selling at 25k. Why? Maybe the ringgit is stronger? You just need to think further to make sense, is it logic?
haha…. so many comments for Proton news!
Wait till the Persona R comes out….
no,no,no…the nearest time is Proton Saga Facelift this december….with totally new front end and rear end. This car is totally from proton…no JV
no,no,no…the nearest time is Proton Saga Facelift this december….with totally new front end and rear end. This car is totally from proton…no JV…we
what Im trying to say is a totally new model… So, i say Persona R coz it will replace the current PErsona right? new design, not a facelifted version…. I’m highlighting the next totally new design from Proton.
As for the next new saga, it is the facelifted version.
Still wondering what is the Caldina-shaped proton model which came out from this website months ago… I’m still waiting news about it
Please dont talk about the tax…..for me the tax is good for making the country prosper…
If there is no tax for import cars, we will run out more than 15% of goverment income…
this money is to build school, road, infrastructure and so on…..
If wealtlhy people import more cars, the country will be able to build good road and infrastructure…..
I just can see more corruption by AmNo with the tax
It depends on which country…tax here is only to make certain group richer
Nice car…..good looks n good price
Good collaboration between Proton and Mitsu. Soon we will see Exoras rebadge as Mitsu in foreign countries.
After all these comments, I think the end result is Proton brought in a car that enables more people to buy :D.
You can hear all the good and bad comments of the car…. the most important thing is…
“Just buy the car you feel good driving in.”
No, buy the car you feel good when you pay it….
I think, and bear in mind this is only my opinion, that in Langkawi Inspira’s price is higher than Lancer due to a gentleman’s agreement between Proton & Mitsubishi to avoid competition between the two cars in the island, because Inspira without tax is most definitely cheaper than that!
Although, that’s just my speculation.
BTW, here’s a response from Proton about the issues that was hotly discussed by everyone from laymen to MPs
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/11/11/nation/7407689&sec=nation
Exactly my toughts. Its an agreement with MMC, just like they had with the Perdana. The Perdana is only available in Malaysia.
its just crazy to pay >RM1k a month for a car….
what we need is cheap transport…
people in the developed countries wouldnt fork out USD1k/mth for a car…
Yeah true…. but RM is not what it’s used to be. It was RM2.++ per 1 USD…. now RM3.++ per 1 USD.
It has shrunk…
its not crazy if you can afford it.. its always a case of affordability. just coz someone can afford a ferrari, and the rest of us can’t, doesnt make it crazy. thats reality. get used to it.
What a pity !!! Gaji RM 3,000.00 , harga kereta paling murah lebih kurang
RM 30,000. In some part of the world gaji 3,000 dollars, the cheapest car (new car) is lebih kurang under 7,000.00 dollars shj.
agreed, and lagi teruk, our public transport is worse than a LOT of other ‘less-developed/developing countries’.
also makes me wonder how ppl can drive RM500,000-RM1mil+++ cars!
Fully agree. public transport is so cheap and effective in oversea, no reason to buy cars.
Loving the fact that proton didn’t remove the ISOfix mounts. So far (correct me if wrong) only Pug 308 and Inspira has ISOfix, will seriously influence my decision for many families, mine included.
Other car manufacturers take note!!
who the heck voted thumbs down? at least tell us why!
All Suzuki’s has ISOFIX
ok cheers tks for correction :)
going backward…..in 2-3 years time, easily expect the next model will be inspira aeroback (lancer sportsback) and after that..proton IUV (inspira utility vehicle— of course from ASX). after this..bank negara will allow loan tenure for 15 yrs, to accomodate financing these modelsss. people will buy…and expect more traffic jamss and..accidents. the only person who enjoy this is Brother’s taukeh
same as perodua ….rebadge myvi, alza viva…..people just to know about it….
EVERY BODY KNOWS DAT! THATS WY THEY R NOT COMPLAINING!
now… i want to sell bodykit + spring potong. sure hot…..
Hi paul,
is the rear seats for all variants are retractable to increase boot capacity?
I feel that pity that proton is not making enough profit. That kind of class should be more expensive. It should cost RM100k plus and not just 91k for a high end car. If I were Proton i were make it to 115k at least 5k cheaper than the GT lancer 2.0 which cost RM120k. Because the car is the same. Just the logo is different. So it should cost slightly lesser than the normal one and not much lesser
Then, who gonna buy? You, your uncle…
Even at 80K, people already complain it’s expensive….imagine 115K. Demn…
xyahla kutuk2 sgt..
kalo rase kita terror dan bukan tahu ckp saje..
try r buat design kereta sendiri..
kalo rase terror sgt n tahu serba serbi tentang kereta ni..jadi lah engineer kt proton.
pastu produce kereta buatan malaysia sebenar yg murah dan berkualiti.
usahala bersama utk mengubah..jgn memperlekeh je.
Hi Paul,
Thanks for the speedy write ups!
This is how i see it…
1. Inspira 2.0 in Langkawi is RM83k. 10% Sales tax being the main difference since it is not fully imported, then the price in Pen. M’sia is about right at RM91k – RM92k. However, how do you explain the price of a Lancer 2.0GT at RM72k which is lower than Inspira 2.0 at RM83k, that’s a good RM11k cheaper for a fully imported vis-a-vis a locally assembled? Royalty cost or perhaps, “extra profit margin” or both? But do imported cars in Langkawi also need AP? If they do, then the price for “Royalty” is not just RM11k per unit! Look at it from another angle, this means “Royalty” cost is > then AP cost. Assuming import or not the car cost RM52k (incidentally close to some middle east price one reader quote above), then AP is about RM20k (RM72k – RM52k) and Royalty actually cost RM31k (RM83k – RM52k)! In fact, this Royalty could be more considering the fact that 40% of the locally assembled car is local content which should render the car cost cheaper than RM52k.
2. This is also quite consistent with price in Pen. M’sia. LGT Langkawi costs RM72k (incl. AP?). Add approx. 10% Sales tax, it would mean a LGT 2.0 would cost at most RM83k in Pen. M’sia if there isn’t any Import Duty. That means if LGT is to be locally assembled (no import duty) it would cost no more than RM83k, a good RM9k lower than RM92k for Inspira 2.0 here. Royalty or extra profit margin?
Hence, is it right to say that this following comparison is roughly what consumer pay (all else remain equal i.e. no diff in local content cost)?
Summary Comparison LGT 2.0 Inspira 2.0 Diff (LGT – Inspira)
Base Cost (est.) RM52k RM52k RM –
AP (assumed) RM20k RM – RM20k
Royalty / extra margin RM – RM31k (RM31k)
Import / Import related Duty RM41k RM – RM41k
Sales Tax RM11k RM 9k RM 2k
Total Cost to Consumer RM124k RM92k RM32k
In the end, the question lies on individual whether he’s willing to pay extra 30+k for AP+Tax (RM60+k) over “Royalty” (RM30+k)… Either way, we’re scr…. ;) it’s just > or <…
If the above base cost is < then we're scr…. more and vice versa.
According to Proton, the every parts & materials of Inspira will be manufactured locally not so soon from now… so, by then, still worth of buying it? Think again with the price as now…
Really tempted to buy 1.8 manual arggghhhhh!!!
SURRENDER TO THE FACTS THAT NO PROTON, NO MORE EXPENSIVE CARS!
PITTY LITTLE ARSE.. AFTER 25 YEARS STILL UNDER GOMEN ARMPITS!!
still got expensive la…
you forgot to curse Perodua and Naza…
Congrats proton!..Mitsubishi motor Car ASSEMBLER in Malaysia.
just saw the Inspira at the showroom. Too bad, the salesperson does not even know the difference between Horsepower and Torque. The Aircond knob is totally shaking. Quality so bad. Stabilizer bar not there. Under tyre noise insulator is missing. Door shield a bit hard.
proton improved the MMC stabilizer bar and this was approved by MMC..how come u say no stab bar??
have u ever get into the Ori Mitsu. Try compare it with the Inspira and review for the 2nd time. Then u only tell us. Dont just glance like that.. It is what Proton get from Mitsu.
Great job proton. Now can we have the Inspira hybrid next ?
I hope people understand that subsidized products does not mean that the product will be very cheap.
Thats my point of view.
We all have a choice besides this Inspira.
Don’t like Inspira, you can get other cars.
dear guyz, coming up next is New Proton Saga 2011 …new fr end and new rear end…totally from proton no JV…when proton have JV everybody complaint, when originally from proton also complaint….dun know what happen….to Proton, gud luck…
this inspira case is juz like ”im driving a proton wira, but i wanna paint it into ferrari red, put on 20 inches rims, change water boiling mufflers, change body kits, and rebadge it as Ferrari, then telling the world ” hey, take a look!!im driving a ferrari-like-car coz im dreaming to drive a ferrari but i know im not able to do so, but now im so excited coz i can afford one now!!”
please compare apple to apple , if you want to compare inspira please compare it to civic, altis, forte, cruze. since when the inspira is a ferrari wannabe? i think you are to obsessed with that car since you cannot afford it
foyer, first thing i wanna noe is how come u noe i cannot afford, i think u should be more educated coz u don noe whats called never judge the book by its cover, second thing is, the point im trying to say is why and wat ppl are exciting about?this is juz a old model car, exciting about been fooled again by proton?they really think they are so smart to get one?i m wondering if u are so smart foyer?
you don’t get excited that’s your problem, they know what they want let it be
Let us all agree on this thing 1st before proceed on any other argument:
1) rebadging a model from a company to another is already accepted worldwide. Proton didnt do anything new here.
So the next question is: will proton maintain or improve the quality of the final product compared to Lancer?or will the inspira be less quality then the lancer? This question can only be answered by Proton’s management.
We as the user should stop all the speculations until inspira owners test their car. then we can judge the performance from there.
if up to this stage we already said inspira is bad. from wut basis did u guys refer to.
Already drive mitsu lancer n test drive this proton inspira, what can i say, its more SUPERB! i like it Ride & handling than mitsu Lancer….
Wah so big dif ah…..i didn’t even know they got test drive car already unless Proton staff.
Hmmmm, how many performance cars do we know have excellent ride and handling without trade-off.
For 80-90k got superb rating, not bad ah.
then maybe you should read again PT’s post on his test drive of the Inspira…
Mee, if you are staying in Langkawi and shopping for a car, will you buy the Inspira or the Lancer.
Lancer 2.0 is cheaper than Inspira 2.0 in Langkawi.
nice looking (or course lancer)
the price disappointed me
this inspira case is juz like ”im driving a proton wira, but i wanna paint it into ferrari red, put on 20 inches rims, change water boiling mufflers, change body kits, and rebadge it as Ferrari, then telling the world proudly ” hey, take a look!!im driving a ferrari-like-car coz im dreaming to drive a ferrari but i know im not able to do so, but now im so excited coz i can afford one now!!”
In Japan, Mitsubishi sold only 119,148 cars in 2009 compared to Toyota (1,238,137),
Honda (595,558), Nissan (520,492), Suzuki (485,396) Daihatsu (474,694), Mazda (175,703) and Subaru (119,764). And we have here some people Woohooing on current Proton’s achievement with Mitsubishi.
And any decent Mistubishi Lancer listed here?
http://www.etawau.com/HTML/Car/INDEX_TopWorld.htm
what has the japanese car market got to do with proton and mitsubishi, let alone the type of cars involved? mitsubishi exports to many more countries than just japan.
and what about this?
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/news/2010/01/2010-car-brand-perceptions-survey/overview/brand-perceptions-ov.htm
Everyone really needs to stop with the Langkawi Inspira vs Lancer price war…
Btw, I have a WiSe and a Honda City.
malaysian never satisfy what they had…always complaint and complaint…why condemn inspira just because its rebadged lancer? yes, we pay the royalty, and this we called technology transfer..25 years in car industry its not so long, so why always unfair to proton? give them support, i was used persona, even though there is a problem, proton service centre had repaired it well…and i am satisfied with persona rather than take myvi that just a copy from serion..
please answer me why china company take gen 2 and rename as europestar for china market?can they do that if they r not trust to proton? foreign people appreciate more than local malaysian do..
hmmmm, why didn’t they just keep the Proton brand…………
Proton strongly linked to Mitsubishi. Anyway, so many brands available in China.
Nobody really condemn Inspira….maybe criticize or insult it at most, they r just dissappointed with Proton.
We, as car buyers have all sacrificed for Proton, expecting Proton to show us, it was all worth the extra yrs of instalments.
Btw, many units of Gen 2 sold last month…..
Proton basically ok choice for bread n butter.
Eventhough Myvi smaller and higher priced, sales doing very well locally.
Malaysians in general are quite well versed in available choices and make good informed decisions.
Inspira only part of the journey, let’s hope Proton does mature faster.
Langkawi is used as a comparison simply becos it works on the same tax platform which is no import tax.
Both cars will face the same excise duties anyway, so let it be lah.
oh man, lancer owners gonna be very disappointed. 2nd hand value for the lancer surely gonna plunge down. gonna be tough for the owners to sell their cars, unless they sell it at rock bottom price. surely buyers will go for a brand new inspira which costs much less n it’s a brand new car.
see??i told u already..the handling of inspira is much better than mitsu.apalahhh semua orang tada pecaya punya woo..support malaysian product lah.baru boleh malaysia maju.
In the world today if you canot produce 365,000 units a year you are dead in the World car Industry.That is competition for you. No special position for Malaysia. Taxpayers money is being wated. Toyoto Corolla in Canada cost CN25,000 or RM75,000. In Malaysia cost RM120,000. Your salary so low and we pay so much.
Nationalism is good. But this has nothing to do with nationalism.
you try life in canada la bro. buy urself a corolla,buy and live in medium size house town area,manage ur child education fund and hospital bills while u’re working as a supervisor there. compare ur earn of living here and there.then u’ll know.
for your info, mitsu trade with exora and persona mould..why don’t you all just say that mitsubishi is a copier??i never heard of that???why u all dont condem mitsu too??
Since Mitsubishi Grandis launch early than Exora!
Where did you get your info from? So far I’ve only read on paultan that these things are under discussion, nothing confirmed or anything concrete.
http://paultan.org/2008/12/05/next-generation-proton-waja-to-be-based-on-the-mitsubishi-lancer-platform/
Other proposed areas that Mitsubishi and Proton are in discussions about include the rebadging of the Persona and the 2009 Proton MPV as a Mitsubishi in certain markets and the joint development of an A-segment hatchback (a new Savvy-sized vehicle), but when contacted by this blog, sources in Proton indicated these additional projects are at best only in discussion stages only, and not something confirmed
i’ve heard that…screw mitsu and proton bashers!!!!!what a copycat!!!!a japanese company that copy a malaysian car….what a shame!!!!hahaha..we should be proud of that!!!
“MALAYSIA BOLEH”
Just saw an Inspira In Melaka just now.White colour.
I thought the Lancer looked crappy on the road.This INSPIRA looks good in pictures,but LOOKS awefully cheap and crappier than the LANCER in real life!
Rubbish brand will always be rubbish.
Only YOU KNOW WHO will buy this car.In the end,you can change badge,you can change name but in the end go service still service at PROTON stupid & lousy SC.
So in the end,Proton is winning.
Their tagline should be
” Stupid People Get It”
in here, stupid people still didn;t get it la bro… hehehe
And so the tale of Perodua dealers continues..
do proton care much for your bad thought?
no… because the inspira still sells..
this is the ‘maserati’ who actually drive a vios…
why you hate the inspira? becoz you can’t keep up with that inspira in a race?..
well, u must know.. you’re riding a dugong la bro. tiger vs dugong, of course tiger will win on land. u dugong surely ‘tercungap-cungap’ chasing the tiger.
you again ah MoFaz…..
why you tercungap-cungap ? You compare Toyota and Mitsubishi ah ? Both of them have many models you know.
You said Proton is a Tiger ? :) More like a cat la……COPYCAT lol
i think you’d better name as looser
I think..All people in this blog very Smart and “SMART”..Haha..
i predict one year from now the brand new price will drop to 70++
i think, well i don know, proton must be trying their luck putting higher introduction price. since from their market research, the demand will still be there even tho they price it high.
after one year, hopefully, bashers still be bashers, the inspira will be perceived worse than today. perceived worse, but the quality is actually there, thanks to bashers and inferiority complex minded of malaysians.
that time, it will be 70++ or cheaper. and this is the more honest price, at least to me. look at the interior material, for instance.
take savvy for example. this thing is actually good. look what happen to it today? my sis owns one. fuel save, handling tip top, comfy ride, power ok lah, no problem at all after 2 years, is manual.
u know: the power of badtalk vs fact. u get what i mean?
actually, the savvy is become poor, very poor on maintenance aspect.
have you wonder what is the price for timing belt for savvy? a rough survey shown that it easily cost you rm500+ if done outside SC
yes, agree ,savvy parts are not cheap at all. i do think inspira will not be much different then savvy. maybe slightly cheaper than mitsu ori parts. still give u headache compared to normal proton cars like gen2, persona, waja.
in the end. end up like savvy also. forced to sell cheaper.
anyway thats just my prediction. planning to get it IF my prediction is correct in near future. right now, i am still strongly believe the introductory price should be cheaper.
Poor people always complain not enough money or spare part very expensive.
A couple came all the way from Singapore to take a look at this brand new car of Proton. And they like it, said Malaysians should be proud.
Are we? All we do is sulk and say that Proton is A copycat.
Bloody b*stard. hey my dear penduduk Malaysia, be grateful ‘lah’ please, at least we have a national automobile company. you think Thailand have one? What about Indonesia, Vietnam, Laos, even Singapore.
spend 700mil to research a new car, or pay a company 200mil to get a license for another company’s design… It’s that simple, a 12 year-old kid I talk to gets it, I have no idea why the bloody hell most others doesn’t .
“people just wont know what they have, until it’s gone…”
Bravo, well said. I feel the same way!!
there is BIG differences between owing a properties and renting a properties. i always prefer owning properties even though renting is much cheaper. that’s the analogue…..
Chiil Bro……Relax lah, life already challenging as it is.
Singaporean trained to be courteous.
Biz very competitive one, it is life that, not always fair.
No matter what negative thing penduduk Malaysia say, it will not affect Proton at all.
It’s products are still the most affordable as it was structured that way.
This so called joint venture seem realistic to some as it cut cost in design fees but pay a 200 millions in fees and still expensive comparing to US and China. Both countries varies in different policy as we all know. Why 1Malaysian will still have to suffer to pay higher price for this model as there are more newer model challenge the market?
Will Proton be selling this Inspira at high volume to overseas completing with Mitsubishi Lancer? Will overseas buy this model as they know that it is a copy cat? Will Proton make most of the profit from the poor 1Malaysian again? Will this benefit the our country revenue? What volume from here do Proton think they can sell and for how long?
Notes: Do remember newer model keep coming almost every month!
A friendly word for Proton: U r still not fast enough!
Your mind is so shallow..If Proton want to rebadge why do they spend so much of tax payer money to design Waja, Savvy, Persona, Gen2 etc in the first place? And now only they think its more economical to rebadge….We all knew it long before that rebadge is far cheaper for a small Proton market. For me, just close that bloody Proton that suck out so much of rakyat money just to keep them afloat and after 25 years still need rebadge for their core product. I wouldnt be complaining if they are just half as good as the Korean, and I dont even need to mention the Japanese..
Rebadge for this low vol non-exportable model only.
Aiya if don’t pay school fees, how to learn new trick.
They know themselves better mah………now learning loh.
They don’t expect to sell many anyway. How well is (or was) Lancer selling? It’s just to tide them over, bring in some money so that they can design another model. Maybe it’s to shut everyone up and give them a new toy to play with while they bring out another model, maybe an original one in a few years time.
i agree, same like the late p.ramlee….please watch the documentary about p.ramlee, How malaysia people bash him before he died, so pity, after he died many people respect him as a malaysia long-life best actor, but it is too late….if you see this documentary, you will know this bash habit start long time ago….dulu, kini dan selamanya sama sahaja…my advice to proton, go forward… ignore all the negative feedback, take all the the positive feedback to improved yourself.
Paul,
Any idea why Proton doesn’t seem to like to put a “colored” emblem of their logo on their steering wheel?
With a colour emblem.. There will be something not comfortable to touch with.. I dun think u will be putting a cotton sewed emblem sticking onto it right?
well.. a coloured plastic or even a metallic emblem is prone to fade..
so that next facelift, they already don’t have to think what to change & revised rims!
next best question from inspira owner,
‘where to get the lancer/evo body kit?’
where to buy mitsubishi badge!!
buy car first la…
next time, a Plagiarism is not a big deal here in malaysia!
It’s not plagiarism la. Proton and Mitsu collaborated. Everyone wins in this case and they did it with permission.
Paul, will there be a 1.6 variant for the Inspira? If the Inspira is suppose to replace the Waja, then there should be a 1.6 variant since Waja has 1.6 model.
theres already a Persona in the 1.6 category so it wudnt make sense to make another model in the same engine category
apalah… asyik tiru design kereta lain… inspira nie ambik mitsubishi lancer…
wut a shame for someone to know u..
lucky me doesnt know u…
lack of knowledge then come with stupid comment..
in France we call it ‘bodosombong’
pegi beli Persona/Gen2/Savvy/Exora …pastu gi main jauh2….
A very straight honest opinion which 30% of the readers may not be able to accept.
Life….mcm itu.
Mitsu tekan P1…….almost the whole car structure tak boleh diubah!
With that kind of price, I rather buy Kia Forte or spend a bit more and get myself the original Mitsubishi Lancer. After 25years Proton is not improving. It’s a waste of tax payer’s money.
Malaysian spend almost 40% of their disposable income just for transportation and that is ridiculous. On a second thought, I will go for a nice well maintained Second Hand car of foreign origin, it’s a waste of money to buy a new car in Malaysia and I rather spend that money to go for holidays or other luxuries. Just imagine the amount of money that the people can save if there is no protectionism in the car industry. The Rakyat can spend it on other things (directly/indirectly) that can boost up our economy.
Malaysian should wake up and stop supporting a company that cannot stand on its own two feet and still clinging to the crutches from the Government. The Government should let Proton compete with other car makers on its own.
25years is too much. If Proton is a human, he should move out from his father’s house, find his own money, get married and start his own family. If Proton is my son, I will feel very sorry for him (after I kicked him out of my house).
If companies can be regarded as human…Proton will be youngster and the rest are dead already worr….
If proton is 25 years old and treated in human form, try to calc the ratio between the oldest car company and the young one, in the end, proton is still a kid (approx 7-10 years old) with bright future ahead.
keep up the good work Proton.
Whoever want to kick out this kid from his/her house, that person is cruel. hahaha
No more resale value for the Lancer. Many people will definitely go for a brand new Inspira rather than a used Lancer. Second hand car dealers will only offer extremely low price for the Lancer as it’s no longer worth buying. Sad for the Lancer owners.
ya,no doub Proton Inspira will sell like hot cakes but on the other hand Proton Waja value secondhand car dealer also say “Tak Nak” how ah?worried this will happen again Part Two?
Great job Proton! Keep it up! Those guys giving unwelcome comments should read a bit of economics and a bit of risk management ! I see the long term benefits though! Good luck! I wish I cn afford one!
What about the signal stick? on the left or on the right???
Proton cars are rubbish. They are horrible with low build quality and less-than-satisfactory design elements. The materials used in the cars are not good quality ones, instead being third-rate materials.
The W204 MY 2011 C300 Luxury Sedan costs only $35900, while the Inspira costs $29760. For only $6140 more, the buyer gets to own a luxury compact executive car, seating 4, utilising premium materials and advanced techniques in its construction.
The C300 uses a 228HP 3.0L V6 engine, while the ‘advanced’ Proton has a little 2.0L V4 engine. The C300 also goes from 0-60MPH in 7.1s while the Proton does it (0-100KMH) in 10.5s. That’s a 3.4s difference. Do note that 60MPH is roughly 96KMH.
Wouldn’t you pick the Mercedes over the Proton?
Proton needs to buck up and get its act together, with world carmakers building far better cars which are more value for money.
my ass, even MMC states that this Inspira somewhat have better quality than their Lancers. RISE body + high tensile steels, and nappa leathers are third rate materials? are you smoking pot?
and BTW, your post also contains full of FAIL. Inspira has the 4B11 INLINE 4 engine, not a V4. its very RARE to find V4 engined cars today, and V4 engines are mostly used by motorbikes.
i take the Inspira over the Merc. i’m pretty sure that the Merc C300 can’t even keep up with a stock Inspira in a 160km/h rapid cornering. imagine what the Inspira can do if fitted with an expensive high quality tyre like the Merc.
yeah you are right only some people know how rubbish the merc are at corners, i believe inspira can easily overtake them , lol
merc are not exclusive cars anymore
hail proton!!
Different people want different things. I doubt an unker like him cares about performance. Maybe he doesn’t drive the Merc, someone else does.
Those jokers are taking the Kampung car that is 20 years behind the technology to compare with German car. Go for test drive if you cant afford one, make yr comment after that. Proton has the same mind set like you guys, ” narrow minded and looking at to become Kampung Champion only” . Put all imported car on the tax like Proton, I can guarantee you will only see Proton as police car.
german car is nothing, problematic car, expensive spare parts, not practical for daily cruising, 20 years is just assumption, notthe real time, i do believe proton can catch up those technology fast
imported cars good? same cheap plastics, fatal problems, many recalls…still good? proton cars still sell outside malaysia where the tax structure is different, what say you?
wah where you get cheap c300? smuggled ah?
bodoh betul mamat ni, nak banding kereta 3,000cc dgn 2,000cc, eleh apa sangat la mercedes benz tu, takat nak gaya boleh la, tapi kat highway terkucil gak dgn keta-keta lain, gila apa nak potong proton kat corner, kena high beam lagi, wah ha ha hah hah
I totally agree with you that we should pay a bit more and get the Merc C300 instead of Inspira if the difference is $6140 (18% more). But that’s not really the case!
I seriously do not know where you get the info that Inspira costs $29760? In US, where the C300 Sport costs around $35000, the Lancer ES 2.0 (closest thing to Inspira 2.0CVT) only costs around $18200. That’s $17,700 difference or 97% more! The closet thing that matches your “price” will be the Lancer Ralliart 237HP six-speed manual, which is a completely different model than what Proton is selling.
Frankly, if it only costs a mere RM19K more to buy a Merc C300 sport compare to Inspira in Malaysia, two things will happen:
1) There will be more C class than Inspira on Malaysian road.
2) Maggi mee, and whatever brand of instant noodle will be sold out everyday cause many Malaysian will be eating them to save the RM19K to buy the C class!
Do not take the wrong model and make the misleading conclusion lah!
3.0L V6 engine versus 2.0L….? why not just compare Bugatti against Inspira?
Peninsular Malaysia Prices
* Proton Inspira 1.8 M/T – RM78,999
* Proton Inspira 1.8 CVT – RM84,999
* Proton Inspira 2.0 CVT – RM91,999
East Malaysia Prices
* Proton Inspira 1.8 M/T – RM80,999
* Proton Inspira 1.8 CVT – RM86,999
* Proton Inspira 2.0 CVT – RM93,999
For me… Car Prices is not ONE MALAYSIA PRICE…we still NOT GO ONE MALAYSIA PRICE.. 2K difference if loan 5 years how much we kena … apuuuuuuuuuu nyak ya
transport cost maa… u may buy in peninsular then send the car to kuching/ k.kinabalu.. maybe u can get it cheaper?
U people dont gila there~ U all already have the CHEAPEST LAND~ not like us in KL.. One Malaysia so much.. ~ It dont make sense at all.. ~!! It’s is quite normal.. so much transporting fees and troubles… Plus the lower sales volume… I think Just a mere RM2k for each car is very reasonable.. We dont want the Peninsular people to cover the cost for U.
U want compare so much~ go live at tax-free Labuan la~ THere is ady much lower than the normal price dy~!!
Transportation n insurance cost……biasa lah tinggal kat pulau punca mcm itu.
Today hentam Proton Inspira, besok queue pegi beli Proton Inspira…..
Malaysians are forever complaining. If Proton rebadged a BMW or Volkswagen, I’m sure these Proton bashers would sing a different tune.
Who in the right mind would want Proton to rebadge their cars
except for MMC who played out P1 the last time thru Saga.
Its an insult to VW and BMW to even have links with Proton.!!!
an insult?
please comment with knowledge..
VW already have a few discussion with proton to be partner..
and LOTUS already be a partner of proton…
zzz
VW is only doing Proton a favour by using their white elephant
over capacity Tg Malim plant.
Typical arrogant Msian thinking. Instead of working together they
feel threatened by competition and hide behind the govts sarong !!
Paying 90k for a so called rebadged national is a total rip off
and yet P1 supporter say its value for money !!! sigh !!!
I thought Proton bought Lotus?
rebadge VW? haha….. the next thing is rakyat will complain that P1 ruined a good car. i don’t mind buying inspira at this price if i can get the first batch. it is mostly a cbu from mitsu.
Salesman tactic. No one can be sure the first batch is a CBU.
Check the chassis number.
Any car if the chassis start with Pxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. surely assembled in Malaysia.
Harga kereta kat malaysia mahal sangat. orang malaysia terpaksa beli kereta sebab pengangkutan awam tak bagus. Motor tak selamat, ujan..jadi terpaksa la beli kereta yang sangat2 mahal.Harga kereta mahal sebab nak jaga proton supaya tiada saingan untuk jualan kereta dekat malaysia. Kita macam dipaksa je…
wak, kalau murah sangat nanti anak-anak nak ke sekolah kena bagi inspira la… x ke pening tu?
lagipun myvi lagi murah dari inspira, inspira lagi murah dari lancer… nak murah pakai kancil 660 wak,, x gado, x yah pikir pasal hybrid, x cemar udara, isi je minyak, jalan……=p
Every time an Inspira related story is put up, huge numbers of opinions and debates will be flooding this site in no time. If MMC did not sell this model as Lancer in this country before, will this still be a hot topic we all busy debating?
As a boss, if I would to buy a sub RM80K range car for my sales managers to travel nationwide, I will seriously consider that 1.8 manual Inspira. And I think my sales person will like it also for its size, power and handling, compare to a Vios or City.
As a consumer who traveling to/from KLIA/LCCT quite frequently, I would love to see the Inspira to be used as the replacement of the aged Waja. I suppose it will be more spacious and comfortable too.
As a normal civilian, I am concern more about what I am getting for what I am paying.
Rebadged, original by foreigners or local engineers or not, I don’t really care (I don’t have much control in that anyway). If you like it, think it’s worth so and can afford it, buy one lah! Whether you will then spend another RM5-10K restoring to its “original identity” and feel happy about it or not, it’s really entirely up to you.
Smart decision by Proton or not, pro or against the decision, at the end of the day, it’s just another model available in this market for us to choose from. For RM80K+, besides new Vios and City, you can also own a ’06 Accord 2,0, ’03 Estima 2.4, quite a few choices of new pick-ups, or ’04 BMW 320i. You can have new or used, sedan, hot hatch, MPV, convertible and etc. It’s your money, your car, and likely to be the one you will be driving in the next 3-5 years. So spend it smartly!
accord – too weak in spirited driving
estima – high fuel consumption
bmw 320i – b m w – banyak makan wang / banyak masuk worksyop
vios / city – handling not good
accord – too weak in spirited driving
True. But spacious and a great reliable family sedan.
estima – high fuel consumption
Maybe, depends on your driving style. But a comfortable MPV for up to 7 pax.
bmw 320i – b m w – banyak makan wang / banyak masuk worksyop
Could be, but that’s the price to pay for a used prestigious car.
vios / city – handling not good
Possible, but not so much a concern of house wives sending kids to school or doing shopping.
You can pick faults virtually on every new and used model. new or used, just select the best choice out of your RM80K budget!
Have been driving a 320i for 3yrs…Not a single problem until to date. So pls dun listen to what others said abt conti cars using high technologies and in return have low reliabilty. Its all BS!
My parents have been a Proton supporter from SAGA-ISWARA-ISWARA Aero-and currently GEN2. Seriously I think Proton is better off using other makers engine. Of all the models I’ve driven Campro engine sucks big time!!! Fuel consumption for a 1.6 auto on avg is abt 10-11L/100km. My BM only gives me 9.6L/100km. Campro performance made the car sluggish and apparently the accelaration is not smooth at all. So I think Mivec on Inspira is the way to go for Proton.
Hmmm Sales mgr ah…..Pesona Auto ok already loh.
Salesman usually get car allowance only unless cigarette, beer or drive delivery van.
Ha ha ha. Accord n Estima n BMW. wooi, prestige entry class already loh.
Ha ha ha, Vios & City handling no good. U mean steerting feedback is it?
Lancer also normal car only. Evo is the hot one. Proton got hot handling performance also, they call it Lot?s
Inspira, also nice normal car. Will be very popular becos bigger than V & C but cheaper than all the Jap car. How not to succeed?
Anyway, got a bit of class also as it sits above the Pesona & Exora.
Hopefully, the fuel consumption good in heavy traffic and the CVT don’t overheat. Otherwise, it is a recommended buy.
Thumbs up for that opinion bro. But I think cars like City and Lancer/ Inspira are too aggressive looking to be taxis. Next thing you know, taxi drivers become Need for Speed Underground wannabe haha.
Maybe… But better have inspira, vios or city as taxi than having that cramped Saga…
kenapa proton inspira ni xde iklan dlm tv..
proton cut cost ke???
nice car go go go proton 1 malaysia
Here’s some fact reviewed by UK~
MOST RELIABLE
1 Honda
2 Subaru
3 Mitsubishi
4 Lexus
5 Toyota
6 Mazda
7 Nissan
8 Skoda
9 Kia
10 MINI
LEAST RELIABLE
32 Land Rover
31 Alfa Romeo
30 Renault
29 Saab
28 MG
27 Vauxhall
26 Peugeot
25 Audi
24 Rover
23 BMW
Read more: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/bargains-and-rip-offs/motoring/article.html?in_article_id=507837&in_page_id=53949#ixzz14zbG2Ger
SO~~
Mitsu can be said TOP3 @ UK~!! or even internationally..
Mitsu beat most of the Japanese car in the of overall reliability. One of the least problem car.
Ok~!!
Another which people should think of:
Why On Earth is the Europe Luxury car so not reliable rated by UK~?
WHy the BMW, Audi, Peugeot , Renault or Land Rover is so Bad rated?
This is some another point::
EUROPE CAR always focus on HIGH TECHNOLOGY which IN-RETURN giving LOW RELIABILITY.
Those car give you more problems then u can actually expect~! The Rich People will not tell u all about this…They are rich~ They want face… So they drive it.. But when got problems.. they dont tell it to u… They don want to admit that our simple Myvi or Saga is much problem free compare to thier BMW….(THis is one reason why RICH people need a simple car like Myvi or Saga in their garage too.. )
We can see why Proton Take Mitsubishi as a partner ady..
One thing for sure, the rich sure complaint more. ha ha ha. serious.
Normal folks like me, complaint also “who want to hear?”
Anyway, the richer folk can always send their cars for part changes more often, normal people will need to sacrifice precious time and annual leave!
Oh my, you still rely on Brits for approval on facts after 53 years of independence.
I was watching Top Gear and they said that luxury cars break down a lot. I agree with your statement that European cars focus on technology at the expense of reliability. The Japs will pick it up later anyway.
But Honda no.1? Shouldn’t it be Toyota? Hilux-Invincible anyone?
everything seems smooth and perfectly done. except, the price.
this thing should be priced lower. with the brand name not that convincing, people have lots of reason to think 18x before buying this over Japs and Koreans.
i ll say RM69K is the better price as far as long term return is concerned.
i hope i am right about this. will get it when the price forced to drop.
RM69k for Proton Inspira? wa~ later Myvi and Persona/Gen 2 got no market ady.
69k for an Inspira or a Vios J? The choice is pretty obvious there.
first day launching…lots of negative criticism…
after 5 years..were can i find 2nd hand inspira..i wanna convert it to evo x…
understand the motto ..(smart guys get it) so u have to be smart if u wannna have it…
overseas price lower …then buy it there…
Salam … and Hi,
For me, the first SAGA had caught my intention .. and i proud of it, and still. Many people said and commented negatively about Proton instead of other brand. Come on … even Toyota panggil semula kereta mereka dalam market (this just one of the example). Defected boleh jadi mana2 pun, Proton maybe tak salah sebab keluarkan Inspira yang ‘sebijik’ like Lancer, tapi the fault yang selalu dapat bukan sebab design atau apa, tapi kat bahagian pengeluaran. Kalau dikira percentage dengan bilangan kenederaan yang dikeluarkan, i think Proton still ok.
Ada yang kata, banyak barang cheap dalam kenderaan baru. Kalau macam tu, dont ask the government to control harga barang esp gula, beras dan segala macam, if u can accept that …. then i agree with your comment.
It is really sad when people say so many negative things about their country, about ‘buatan malaysia’. Copycat? other brand tak ada copycat ke? Even dalam formula one pun, enjin pun main pinjam2 .. tukar2 … dan ubah. This is technology exchange la. If u can have access to something that many people says bagus sangat, then why not, Proton produce a car, that have this all kind of thing dari betul2 jadi peniru. Tiru dengan bijak lebih baik dari tiru secara haram!
We are in the world of competitiveness … so how do u want to compete? Give suggestion yang betul2 boleh buatkan Proton survive lagi 5 tahun? ….. condemning Proton and all it’s product bukanlah satu yang bijak. Kalau tak suka sangat dan ragu dengan kualiti yang ada .. ada duit belilah kereta mewah yang kononnya tiada masalah. When its a machine … tetap akan ada flawless la … manusia pun bukan semuanya sempurna …. inikan mesin yang dibuat oleh manusia!
Do u feel Proton tak berkembang? Tapi kenapa pula bila proton kuarkan enjin Campro CPS .. masih ada juga cakap2 negatif? tak puas hati lagi? Dulu kata design Saga dah lapuk .. bila kuarkan design baru …. juga ada yang tak puas hati. Bila keluarkan Satria GTi … pun ada yang masih kondem. And the list goes on … sampai bila agaknya nak puas hati???? Bila dah keluarkan Inspira yang hampir2 sebijik dengan Lancer yang ramai orang kagum pun …. still tak puas hati jugak? Whylah?
Susah la macam ni. Bantah ..bantah … dan bantah … itu je yang kita YAKIN buat. Pernah buat lawatan ke kilang atau hari terbuka Proton tak? Pernah isi borang maklum balas produk Proton tak? I think many of us termasuk saya tak pernah pun buat.
So .. secara kesimpulannnya … saya bukan suruh anda semua berpuas hati dengan apa yang ada tetapi ada perkara yang patut kita banggakan, dan patut kita sokong. Sokong tidak bermakna anda menerima bulat-bulat, tetapi sokong dengan cara yang lebih menguntungkan Proton dan anda.
Thank You.
government try to protect proton by using our tax for 25 years, but outcome is really dissapointed. Can anyone show me how much tax we have pay for these years?
not as much as the tax companies have to pay….
go to saudi arabia,,,you dont need to pay tax
bro without tax,,,no money to run country,,no policeman ,,no law enforcement
without law, no business ….do you think you can have your job if no business? so the solution is ,,sent u to saudi arabia
hmm,,,,they adapted too much…http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Proton_car_models
thats why we are pissed of …even hey adapt from a good car maker….proton spoils it…..
i duunoe what they install for inspira …. i hope it will change 25 years of misery ….
dude..please refer to previous review by paul to know what proton have done to inspira..dont simply bash
Oh I see… u used to be proton’s die hard fan and u r very sad with proton recent move. that’s why u let it out.
wait, I thot u never be a fan. why so pissed of?
Proton hidup 50 tahun lagi pun no problem
Senang, excise duty, import tax kasih naik sedikit lagi kalau kos bahan proton naik.
Bantah kat mulut shj bukan dlm hati. Ada perbezaan.
Kereta yg kedua paling laris di Malaysia adalah……dulu No.1
Yg dapat untung besar adalah P2, amat berterima kasih kpd No. 2.
Sekian terimakasih.
If without Proton, I can get Mitsubishi Lancer but now I get Proton Lancer.
Same price but quality in doubt!!
Shit to Proton and Dr. M
Remove the protection then no one will bash…if your 25 years old son still sitting at home waiting to fed see u bash or not…maybe u will even kick him out from your house
Now I understand why we need Malaysia innovative campaigns…… :0
i own a persona for 6 months and very dissapointed.
My ECU and centre air vent had been replace. although it is FOC, but inconvenience and time waste is costing me so much. Yet I still suffer from dashboard noise. I am glad they instal a orifice valve for me for free, but why they dun intstal during manufacturing instead instal upon customer complaint.
thank god someone created kancil….wait a minute…………
hey..its daihatsu mira…
forget it… im buying a bike……
to all basher please condemn inspira more..
balik perodua nyer showroom pasni sila fikir idea camne nk jual myVi eh?
Betul tu
Sebelum ni depa asyik kata buat apa beli keta kat sinum tu (p1) sebab sana teknologi lama buatan malaysia design malaysia. kat sini(p2) comfirm terbukti teknologi Jepun T&D.
Now very hard to find point. before this the put out romour say that Inspira pakai enjin campro. Skarang plak tgh try create story mengatakan enjin Inspira ni previous generation punya enjin.
Go back and think hard P2 salesman.
myvi is already passed the maturity stage of its product life cycle. any concern malaysians, pls send message to perodua to quickly come out with another replacement model, even better if it is its own model….
Bloody hell…
Lancer 2.0 GT was selling RM 71,800.00 at Langkawi….Proton Inspira 2.0 RM 82k!!!! Fuck off…..blood suckers
Why’s the performance’s too low? that’s like few years back tech.
Went to Proton showroom…i just want to say I missed LINGAM…I think Dr M also agree with me.
who the heck is lingam?
It looks like me, it sounds like me…. but, its not ME (Mitsu Evo).
correct…correct…correct !!!
memang bukan evo pon.. unless u ingat lancer yg jual kat malaysia ni evo.. then nothing to say already..
it looks like me, sounds like me but it wasn’t me =P
also…correct…correct…correct !!! haha
I don’t have a problem with a re-badged car, however just call a spade, a spade.
Don’t want to hear how the engineers re-tuned, tweaked, picked the color, etc. – its like they actually did work !?
IMHO
Honda crv in japan sell rm110k, in taiwan sell around rm90k, in malaysia rm140k..
How much your pay per mth in m’sia? Do you think you’ll be above ppl in Japan & Taiwan?
And please compare the quality of the material use in malaysia local car, compare with Kia Forte then is enought.. Kia imported but 80K++..
Even if the quality of inspira same or slightly better then Forte, but think about the import tax and how much proton earn!!
the current Lancer design is not desirable and has never been on the desirable list of anyone who matters.. so, all these hoohaa about Proton rebadging it and whether it is good enough to be compared to the genuine Lancer is ignorant and pointless.. it is like going around bragging Proton rebadging Toyota Corolla… it is a just boring saloon car for family… the only thing that make Lancer desirable is the LANCER EVO engine and suspension.. but the ordinary Lancer is NOT EVO…without EVO equipment, Lancer is not desirable.. so is this piece of shit Proton..
Toyota Altis sells because it is reliable and easy to maintain.
Honda Civic sells because it looks good.
Mitsu Lancer was never even in the competition for any piece of the pie..
take a look at this ranking…
http://www.suite101.com/content/list-of-top-10-best-selling-cars-in-japan-2009-a195368
# Toyota Prius … 208,876
# Honda Fit … 157,324
# Toyota Vitz … 117,655
# Toyota Passo … 98,883
# Honda Insight … 93,283
# Toyota Corolla … 90,178
# Honda Freed … 79,525
# Nissan Serena … 78,836
# Toyota Voxy … 71,426
# Nissan Note … 65,745
Read more at Suite101: List of Top 10 Best-Selling Cars in Japan (2009): Most-Sold Japanese Passenger Vehicle Manufacturers and Car Models http://www.suite101.com/content/list-of-top-10-best-selling-cars-in-japan-2009-a195368#ixzz151zbo5g6
Mitsubishi Lancer is never a hot property, not the 1st generation, 2nd generation, 3rd generation and not this current generation..
and even at these prices, Proton still cannot afford to give you good quality interior…
what more is there to brag about ?
get over it already !
the only sedan in the list is T corolla. no civic, no accord, no camry, etc. obviously Japs don’t really like sedan. all sedan never been hot except for corolla that is ironically not hot in malaysia compare to civic.
blame the malaysians who praise lancer like god of car. do u think proton want to rebadge it if it is not? that’s call demand, dude.
Best looking FAMILY car on the road (at least in within the average joe’s wallet).
Is the RM5k rebate for old cars still applicable for the Inspira?
Looks are subjective. Lancer/ Sportback/ EVO/ ASX looks like a shark, City looks like a Transformer, Vios looks like a Dugong, etc. etc.
Being a Malaysian i don’t feel proud seeing this car.
It just a copycat model from Lancer what so special? We have so many talents in Malaysia why do we need follow 99.9% Japanese model?
Poor Lancer….
read paul’s earlier statements on why they decided to rebadge instead of produce their own..perhaps ull see it from another angle
being a malaysian, i also feel so shameful on the vast numbers of peroduas, nazas & inokoms on the road.
at least proton publicly declared why it needs to rebadge. only smart guys read and understand it. are you?
I still don’t understand why people are still arguing Proton’s decision to rebadge when Paul Tan has clearly explained it from his previous post.
I just wonder why the Japs didn’t make any announcements at all on their own…since the car is their joint-product…and since they endorse it so much…and they seem to think its a very good car…???
So far we only heard what Proton said what they heard from the Japs…
It would settle some of the points raised if Mitsubishi in Japan or in Malaysia come out and admit the Inspira as theirs too…otherwise it appears that they don’t acknowledge their parentage…
Of course, some ppl will say its Proton’s car…why should ask the Japs to comment…then I think DSZ and gang shouldnt lean on the Japs credentials so much lah…by the way in case you ask…Proton been saying over and over the Japs praised them and that it is their joint product with the Japs…
Just my thought so that many questions can be answered lah…worse come to worse…just pay some Mitsubishi guy to make clear cut announcement…how abt it?
why japs make no announcement? my uneducated guess is you never care to check whether there is one. and mitsu is not a jap glc like proton. it is a small player in jap. why bother to announce. and answer me why announcement so matter to you? what it will change if it has done so?
hahaha…you are right…ur guess is uneducated…
have u seen an announcement?…if u have…share with us lah…if not…then why waste time and space right?
why announce?…then it can stop some arguments that fill paultan.org…help to shorten it…and lessen paul tan’s work to moderate unnecessary comments like urs…
why mitsu should announce?…they have a biz in malaysia…they are in the industry…it is their name and product being mentioned…
why it matters to me?…i want to know if what proton and DSZ claim is all true…unlike some…i don’t just simply believe wat proton claims…remember too many disappointments…
if i want to buy something…or if i am passionate or interested in something…i check what i can…
dat is why i asked in the first place…
find it yourself la haiya , japanese wants to announce malaysian did better than them ah? sure shame la, that way people don’t want to buy mitsu cars here, please think logically la
why should japanese announce that malaysians did better than them ? it’ll affect other mitsu class cars selling that they sell in malaysia, they have other lines up as well to be sold here like asx, the potential buyers might change their views to other makes, so it’s enough to give such comments
has it ever occurred to you and uster that what Proton has been claiming is not true? or Proton is taking creative license to extremes? or that due to M’sia being a small market, Mitsu is not bothered and Proton is taking advantage? or that due to the biz volume Mitsu is expecting to get through the Inspira, they are willing to keep quiet when Proton is making such claims? I am not saying all these are the case, but its possible and Mitsu’s announcement can clear this away easily.
you just assume that Mitsu’s announcement must be to say Proton did better than them. that is probably the result of mental conditioning imposed by years of Proton adverts.
these comments are where we can learn and share info and even speculations. no one can know everything. if we don’t ask, our understanding is limited only to what we know and can find out ourself. So try to open up your minds.
will buy if it is rm70k..
Proton Inspira was great rebadged Lancer EX, exactly the same thing as original mitsubishi w/very minimal modification had been done apart from original – expected higher reliability and minimal problem!
Proton also aware of heat of the CVT gearbox and modify the inner airflow to cool down the gearbox cooler. Proton really improving, trying to move out from people negative side. All car sure got some problem, important is manufacturer commit will rectify and get it fix.
Although the interior plastics so high quality if compare to korean car but I’m impressed this model. This another model that we wanted since last decade
Best value Powerful 1.8/2.0 MIVEC Engine with timing chain, dual airbag, dual disc brake, ABS, EBD, BA and spacious room.
Dear all proton inspira basher, can you find and list me a model with above feature that sell lower than this price?
What else you ask for with RM 79,000
Don’t tell me you gonna compare with toyota vios 1.5 or honda city 1.5 with this model, totally out of your mind!
Dear all proton inspira basher, can you find and list me a model with above feature that sell lower than this price?
Ya, original Lancer without the Proton-induced tax…hahahaha…
why like all malaysians do not know proton and perodua also kena tax one?
yakah? you mean at the same rate?
which salesroom branch are you from?
hahaha number speaks, wait for 3 months and you see Dugong/City sell better or this piece of junk sell better.
The resale value of a Proton is going to kill the buyer. As admited by the Proton management published in The New Strats Times on thursday….Proton is good, but the general perception….Proton is still…………….PROTON. Solilah
already 1+++ bookings , that’s impressive! still can sell !
this car is lauched but cant any one tell me how does a police saman this car if this car is modifed to be a mithsubishi lancer , did the police saman with the logo mithsubishi or proton .
If this car can be export to others country why mithsubishi come out this lancer for ???
saman is blind on car logo if u care to think.
it is car plate no & driver’s ic will put u on the chit. how this come from u?
Learner,
Rent a house more costly than own one and pay for installment! You get nothing after rent for 25 years! But you can claim as yours after 25 years if you get one for your own.
Amirul,
Spend 50 million to give bonus to all factory workers for 3 years, another 100 millions to refine on their existing products. save another 50 millions for the share holder this year. And I will be more than happy to buy more of their stock.
i don’t understand… you just highlighting my point, making my point more obvious.
Wah record posting by readers of paultan.
Surprisingly got many Proton supporter and some staff also.
Transmission oil cooler nothing new, usually for sports cars, ha ha ha
What happen if stuck in traffic crawl with 6 adults on board and full balik kg. gear……….nanti ada mod terbaru….pasang kipas…ha ha ha.
Whatever it is, Inspira is ok becos…..Lancer mah….sure ok rite?…..means still got apron string with mama mitsu lagi.
of course lah, give better fabric seats, better foam surely this one Mitsu will not object?
Imagine if Proton had licensed the Altis or Civic……kns….ha ha ha ha.
When traffic light crawl the transmission are not worked hard. cooling requirement at this stage are minimal.
Hmmm not bad, got engineer comment also…impressive.
No idea whether true or not but with the drive on, brakes on-off all the time, everything inside the engine compartments feels kind of hot?
When car moving, auto air cooled. Some motorbike also air cooled only.
So no idea whether hot or not so hot.
One thing for sure, the brakes definitely hot. Unless prefer rock in and out of Drive mode.
This one CVT…a bit unique, need long-term test to determine. Malu want to balik kg to show off new car tengah jam…..component koyak.
owhh still too expensive……just stick with honda kapcai…cant even afford a kancil……but if they get rid rid of the taxes…might have a chance of owning a brand new viva…..dont tell to get a second hand car… its still requires money to repair this and that…….pity the children, they have to sit in between the dad and mum, and mum holding the little baby. Everything are expensive….. life oh life
Mit logo pls….sure hot selling. Shame on u P1, ppl buy this car will bcos of Mit Lancer concept, will change the P1 logo.
what for , this baby got lotus ride and handling , better change to lotus logo
now that proton also supply parts of lancer WORLDWIDE, is there a different to change logo? lancer internationally soon will run on Proton-made parts.
can inspira owner sent this car for service at Mitsubishi SC?
what for? more expensive spareparts?
most likely Lancer owners will send their cars to Proton SC.
cheap?? yeah by selling low quality, copy & pirated product off course very cheap. after 2 years for sure break down.
don’t forget slow response, unable to resolve technical issue, teh tarik break for 2-3 hours. Owh well…what you aspect it’s Proton.
another basher who doesn’t other idea already , still want to repeat the same stupid thing about copycat and pirated product
OK …NEW TEAST…FROM proton..Gook Luck!!..TAHUN KEDEPAN KELUARKAN JUGA
LIMO 3DOORS ..
Ape yang penting kerja sama…..utk 1Malaysia.
Wait for Exora Turbo?
Inspira makes the Pesona SE look cheap!
Size not that far apart either.
Comment ke 1000! :) Proton FTW!
better buy a house if u dont have one…
Today after work…..i visit again Proton showroom to look about this PROTON Inspira, almost rm 92k for 2.0full spec.Confirm again this car really not worth!!
I really need to advise u all if u want to buy this car !! Proton cheating u with this suck price! u think u r clever to having this 2.0 car,2.0 worth?….totally cheated by Proton!
PROTON Inspira
– local design bodykit with poor quality
– 16 inches local rims. ( MIT LANCER- 18 inches imported rims)
– 4 speakers. ( MIT Lancer 6 WAY speaker )
– local cheap leather seat. ( MIT LANCER using NAPPA world famous leather seat )
– immobilizer car key. ( MIT LANCER using key less entry tecnology)
– the sound proof is bad compare with MIT LANCER,means confirm the body of the car using cheap material and wont same like MIT LANCER
– The salesman of Proton tell me,Inspira using normal matelic paint only,which Mit LANCER is using 2 K paint.
– Proton logo always is the looser compare with MITSUBISHI logo,if u planning buy this Inspira and wish to change the lancer logo and bodykits…people will laughIng at u COPY CAT !!
– interest rate different compare both of these cars
I know that people will thinking this car is the same like MIT LANCER, and cheaper than this car almost 20k….but u pay less and get back less! local car with low quality dont sell so much expensive ! if around 75k like that should be all right!
i am not a Lancer owner,and bash this Proton INSPIRA! I i just notice that so many different with MIT LANCER.i need to find out and let u all know.u buy or not buy this PROTON INSPIRA ,this is not my buiness….
Then tell us what is a good buy?
RM124k for real Mitsu Lancer EX what you get? CBU Japan? Is there a big difference on the material? Is Inspira really sucks in that sense unacceptable?
RM130k for Toyota Altis what you get? Made in Thailand? How sure are you that Toyota is using better quality parts? Made in Thailand better than Malaysia?
RM128k for Honda Civic what you get? CKD in Malaysia? How sure are you that Honda is not using locally source parts which is low quality as well?
RM120k for Nissan Sylphy what you get? CKD by Tan Chong Malaysia? How sure are you that Tan Chong is not cutting cost in getting lower quality parts?
Neareast RM90k for Naza Forte what you get? CKD by Naza from Korea. Still lotsa people buy it. Can we say Naza get locally source parts and most important, Is Korean better than Japanese or Proton? Is people buy Forte is a dumb dumb?
I’ve got friends drives Toyota, Honda, Nissan. All they face problem. How you say about that?
I also seen myself a Kia facing reliable issue.
RM90k with 2.0 Japanese Engine + Proton CKD. At least we assure parts is not a problem where you have lotsa option whether original or imitate parts.
Is proton CKD no as good as Perodua?
IMHO, many people bash proton, but they don’t ever think are they using non-original parts and keep bashing proton not reliable? Even original, compare Proton parts price with other T or H. What is the gap? Be more realistic and not bash buta buta.
Amen…
As an aside…Lancer EX is 120k otr with insurance…not 124k…
Is CBU better? I think at the moment it is…local work is improving but it is naive and a denial to think it is already on par with Japan or even at the moment with Thailand or Indonesia….you may disagree…of course there are differences even between CBUs…
Use of ‘local parts’…more reliability usually found if assembly plant belongs to carmaker…however, 3rd party assembler and reseller may be open to ‘cost cutting’ maneuvers…
20% of Inspira is local parts + 100% of assembly is local (supposed to be QC’d by Mit)…what constitutes the 20% is not clear…chasis, engine and transmission is Mit that takes up how many %?…anyone can enlighten?
At the individual level…what irks some…may not be the Inspira itself…it should be a good car as it is 80% Lancer…assembled at Mit’s specifications…other build quality issues we will discover later on I believe…
Price difference between Lancer and Inspira should be accounted for i.e. is it purely local savings or tax structure that unfairly burden the people etc…but even between local carmakers there is a material price difference for same cc car…e.g. Saga vs Myvi…where Myvi strong sales also support quality and perception difference…
What irritates some folks is that Proton seem to change their stories to suit the criticism…first rebadge…then when they got criticised…it becomes OEM collaboration…then later rebadge again…first say Inspira is a place holder while they develop their homegrown lines/engines…then later say it is the sign of more cars to come (meaning more rebadges?)…among other things…
Proton got no qualms about highlighting the Mitsubishi aspects of the Inspira to guile people to like and buy it…but insist its a local product when criticised they are not living up to the Proton promise of being a national car and justify their protected status…
Lastly Proton invokes patriotic sentiments…and insist its a Malaysian…when it is actually a Japanese in Malaysian clothes…Proton should just sell the car…and stop the nonsense…
Peace
if PROTON INSPIRA sell less than 80k,it will be consider worth….remember this is our national car,still need so much tax?…..if we buy this car and cost us nearly 100k,change this and that,somemore have to face so many problem after sales service….i wont buy this car!
jolly_idiot , if u like this car just buy it and dont bother people say anything….i just spread out what am i feeling….
Alex, I didn’t say I like this car, but I’m just saying facts of life.
Since you’re so rejecting such Inspira (Which none of us are forcing you to accept or buy it). Why don’t you give some suggestion, with RM92K budget, what is a good buy indeed?
As I remember VIOS is selling their TRD version at RM90k+ which only give you same engine, same shits as a J version that cost RM73k+. With the 20K more, where it goes? 1 more airbag? Rims? So call TRD bodykit?(what is the material tho?) Sportier interior which makes little to no difference to G version? Do you think 20k paying is a worth for this 4-speed B segment car?
Nonetheless, City E is selling around RM90k+ for a 1.5L engine and what kinda interior you get? Not even leather seat! With that price paying, you’re not even getting any bodykit!. What makes it cost us RM90K+? Thailand workmanship/parts very expensive? Or the H badge needs a high premium?
As past we all know Proton has a bad record for it’s quality issues. At least I do see that they’re making things better today (Comparing to Iswara, Wira, Waja that time). At least our new Persona, Saga, Exora does gain some respect from us Rakyat. Anyone here do feel our new Saga, Persona, Exora sucks until unacceptable? Do our new Saga, Persona, Exora owner feel that the car is better than previous Iswara/Wira?
For this Inspira, Proton has already said it’s a collaboration with Mitsi to tap another niche market where giving another options for some higher income buyers. I don’t see why there’s a big NO NO for such a good/worth deal instead?
RM90k+ you get at least a MIVEC engine (Engine CBU Japan) and a bigger/nicer interior with a D- C+ segment car.
Do some research on this 4B11 MIVEC engine and you’ll know it’s on par with the newly launch Altis DUAL VVT-i engine. It’s a modern engine indeed where T is keep offering old engines for new models at sky high price.
Making such move can say is kinda wise for Proton and Mitsi. Why? Do Lancer flood our market like other T or H does? For you as Mitsi, somebody come and wanna rebadge your product for their market where you don’t need to waste so much money for the marketing and yet receiving royalty to it. I don’t see why Mitsi should reject it. Out of a sudden, Mitsi car flood the market and imagine how much Mitsi can earn and save?
As for some people bash that Proton is twisting their word from rebadging to collaboration. Can anyone define what the differences (in business point of view) between collaboration and rebadging?
I’m not a fan of any brand. I’m just saying some facts of life. We Malaysian everyday keep bashing Proton and G for being high tax on cars, The fact is, we’re still going no where but to face the high tax. So why pay more when you can get something similar?
Amen…
typical perodua salesman trying to sell their new bibah “exclusive” edition
Alex, you sounds like toyota salesman.
the QC for Inspira is managed by Mitsubishi team. you only see the car in showroom and you can tell their sound proofing is not good? Paul and Danny already test-drive inspira and they both mentioned that inspira is noticeably better in some aspects.
haha,” the QC for Inspira is managed by Mitsubishi team”. so what people in this MIT team?ini Malaysia la…QC of Proton is the worse la…many funny things happen of their QC.u sell ur own car….then will u say ur car no good? childish !!
please feel yourself about this car….go to test drive it then u know…..People ask u jump,will u jump?although got a big LUBANG?they test drive the car,are they bring out the true?will u see any negative comment in this forum after the review?i always get the bright side and never see the dark side in this forum! anyhow thanks to paul and danny coz of their hard work…..
What is the QC for Perodua, Toyota, Honda, Nissan tho?
Perodua -> Factory in Rawang, they hire local and Japanese.
Toyota -> Factory in Thailand, they hire thai and Japanese
Honda -> Factory in Melaka, they hire local and Japanese
Nissan -> Factory in Serendah, they hire local and Japanese
Proton -> Factory in Tg Malim, they hire local and Japanese (For inspira)
Got Problem?
got problems lo!!!!! proton cut the cost that y QC is a big problems!!!!!other is rich….all is nice quality!!!are u seen the inspira….even a honday city interior is nice then inspira…..smart people get it ba!
Thanks for the info bro….there is this guy MoFaz who told me this car is going to be priced at 70k….so i was so excited. Damn this MoFaz always spread fitnah !!!!!
It was price at 79k tho. Still attractive. I don’t see it makes a huge different on your monthly installment.
Compare other brand, it’s still a value buy.
fuh~ inspira not good eh?
then at that price range & new car,
what car should i buy?
what is the reason for my purchase?
if u 100% need to drive 2.0 and new car….that is PROTON INSPIRA! dont care about the specs,after sales service…..as long as this car can used….
REASON ~~ u r a good Malaysian,support national car!
If you have RM80k? What car you buy?
What car are u using now, if it is ok to share with us.
Inspira good for those….who can afford it!
Obviously, not targetted at average folk.
I would say this is a good ave sedan similar to civic or altis or maybe a bit smaller.
Suprisingly, see quite many Forte on the road.
to me, too early to tell if any horrors waiting for Inspira buyers…to be fair…many QC issues wont be seen yet…but people whom have seen the car…or tested it…have given their views…don’t dis them for it…take it as just that…their views…there’s good and bad reviews…
undeniable fact…Proton is known for bad QC…bad in the past…bad in the present…may be improving but still bad…Proton fans shouldn’t just keep justifying bad quality with patriotic sentiments…be loyal to the country not the carmaker…Proton didn’t give u a home and no patriots gave their blood for it…
if Proton quality is good…why people often say get it now before more local parts?…or if Lancer and Inspira sold at the same price…see how many patriots buy the Inspira…
one owner tells many people that he has QC issues with his car, then the many tells many others , so at the end how much who has the problem? only one right? but the thing people don’t talk about the good thing, people like to talk about bad things, like YOU!
when a product is good, noone talks, but when is bad, one will tell it to everybody!
Its true bad news travel faster than good news. But you are only presuming one person had the problem and all the others are just robots repeating what one person said, aren’t you?
Do people complain about other brands as much as Proton? If not, why? Would you buy a Proton if all other cars in the same class are priced more or less the same? I doubt it.
I don’t want to belabor the point but do you see how silly your point is? Because bad Protons have been the common experience of the average Malaysian.
Wait a minute. Soundproof is bad? How come my friend who went to test drive with me and have driven the Lancer before said Inspira NVH better than Lancer then?
As for interest rates, I was quoted 3.4% for 7 years, 3.5% for 9 years. Comparable to non-National makes of that particular price.
Are you sure you’re talking about the same car here?
hi what car are you selling?
“- 16 inches local rims. ( MIT LANCER- 18 inches imported rims)”
16″ rims why not if can zoom at corners more stable than 18″ ones
local rims also ok, you don’t know it’s achieved international std ? bsa, heard it?
“- 4 speakers. ( MIT Lancer 6 WAY speaker )”
just add another two, you want more also can
“- local cheap leather seat. ( MIT LANCER using NAPPA world famous leather seat )”
-it’s nappa leather , you don’t read, again stupid basher
“- the sound proof is bad compare with MIT LANCER,means confirm the body of the car using cheap material and wont same like MIT LANCER”
-again nonsense, you don’t read the review
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“- Proton logo always is the looser compare with MITSUBISHI logo,if u planning buy this Inspira and wish to change the lancer logo and bodykits…people will laughIng at u COPY CAT !!”
please be proud of the proton badge because it’s LOTUS dna
stupid basher!
always call people stupid one,he is a real stupid !!
if both car with same price…see people will choose which 1….PROTON INSPIRA or MIT LANCER?I am sure u this stupid IDKJ will choose PROTON la…right?
lets give Inspira half year ….c got any complaint and result….may be i am wrong,may be u r right! haha….
its a win-win situation for proton, mistubishi and the rakyat. why?
1) proton gets to say they built a new replacement model for waja.
2) mitsubishi gets to sell their ‘lancer’ in higher volumes in malaysia (market share expansion). see how many lancer there is currently on malaysian road? not much right? soon there will be more!
3) the rakyat gets to enjoy a ‘lancer’ without paying an original ‘lancer’ price. Maybe need to spend 50 bucks to get a Mitsubishi sticker and 200 bucks for a lancer front grill.
it not the replacement for waja,,, new type model… mewah sikit dari waja class sbb enjin nyer 1.8 to 2.0 tapi bawah sikit dari perdana class harga kurang dari rm100k.. ok?
IT is a shame shame deal for both car makers. One is the japanese car that cant compete with Honda & Toyota. One is a company that is failed in R&D and do nothing for last 25 years. However, it is a champion for copying and excuses.
do nothing for 25 years? then gen2, waja exora, savvy , what cars are that? honda? toyota ? it’s proton own make, everywhere got competition, some will lose some will win, then in the future noone can predict, the only loser all the time is who only think negative in the first place and have no confidence and motivation like YOU!
haha…
i always wonder why people always bash proton with its power window problem…
my myvi and also my friend myvi’s power window also fail to work regularly,
but no one seems to bash perodua about this..
bash bash bash our own product..mentality malaysian;(
Maybe Proton incident rate higher.
I feel sad after reading Alex’s post…..at least he did a detailed study rather than just see from pictures or other peoples comments.
Like this rakyat not really getting win-win package.
More like Proton win, Rakyat…….u decide.
If really need to get a mid sz car, why not consider Pesona instead. If a bit more courageous, could try out the Korean models. Don’t take my word for it, explore and u never know what u may find.
yes…nowadays buy PERSONA got discount rm 3k more,below 60k can get a high specs already…consider worth like having a mid size 1.6cc car.
My Wira got power window problem at all 4 sides. the right signal light just dropped while I was driving. Was given a perdana by the company after that, the gear box death after 80,000 km. The car shake like hell on the front left hand side when driving above 120KM/hr. I am glad to tell you that my 1998 Toyota engine is smoother than the new perdana.
With the replica/duplicate Lancer, I hope the problem is getting less. Good luck to all inspira buyers who want to inspire yrself. Better buy when the original content is higher. Just like the first batch of Proton Saga
For those Mitsu buyers, no need to feel sad, you shall be proud to see all ” Mitsubishi Lancer & EVO on the road very soon. You will be the attention of those replica buyers, they are trying to observe and measure the position of your Mitsubishi logo to ensure they can replace their kampung logo with Mitsu logo correctly at right position.
no need to change proton logo with mitsu because inspira is already superior and better than old lancer,
if they really want to change the logo, better change it to LOTUS logo, lol
proton is not “kampung” brand , it’s been marketed all over the world
Betul bang, it is a kampung car that is selling all over the world. Non of the Proton dealers at oversee make money by selling Proton car. Only those who supplied the power windows and signal light make money at those countries.
See perdana part and you will be shocked that it is as expensive as Merc’s part. Thank you proton for bringing up good economy for local accessories shop business.
agree, not kampung brand, emerging to be more and more popular brand
http://paultan.org/2007/12/12/proton-sells-over-1000-cars-in-thailand-in-2-weeks/
http://paultan.org/topics/cars/malaysian-makes/proton/page/10/
bro brnd
in many of the markets…Proton cars are considered as rubbish…sorry to say it…its painful for me to hear it from foreigners…even though I don’t owe any loyalty to Proton…painful because Malaysia’s name is associated with it…painful because its true…
hahaha…
well, the hardcore do not want to know it already was history.
it satisfies them that way. thats y i guess
my 1 year old waja cps driver side power window KO twice..it happens to many other new waja cps owners as well..just go to read in the forums…
History can repeat itself..ppl dun simply bash for no reason…there are many blind supporters here as well
if you really read the forum, you might find the solutions too…
well, my power windows also KO twice, i replace it under warranty during normal service. once warranty period over, i’ll replace it with metal ones. they mentioned in forums that it eliminates the problem.
Why does Proton never rectify it by replacing the metal component ? what a joke. And LOSER like you use your own money to replace it after warranty period. You as a joker is telling us the stupid joke of the year. Shame!
That’s the biggest joke of theyear, if they know the metal can resolve the problemm, why not redesign it. And loser like you use yr own money to replace with metal part and wait till after warranty.
previous gen honda city is very well known for CVT gearbox problem, the cost to replace is about RM20k. you can buy cheaper replacement in half-cut shop if you’re lucky to find 1. my question is, do they immediately replace all city at that time with new gearbox? no… they only change it in the current gen city. and, if based on your arguments, honda city buyers are all LOSER too, right? what proton did was similar too.. waja was their first self-developed model, they learned from their mistake and there’s no more power window issue on Persona.
please refer to all ‘recall’ news, there’s alot of them in paultan. most, if not all recalls are only due to safety issues. at least i get 5 years warranty from Proton, good enough for me.
Another joke of the year again, that reminded me my new Perdana that I bought 10 years ago. Gear Box death after 80,000 km. I was not happy at all.
If Proton give 5 years warranty with quality problem, what the hack is this. U think people will be happy with it, what a joke!
so should bash both Proton and Perodua lah…hahahaha…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8-GaULBqSs&feature=related
Lancer 1.8 with 4B10 engine able to reach 200km/h…
You should believe it….
My MyVVI can go up to 200km/hr, what is that so great ?
Owh…..
with extra ‘V’ … can reach 200km/h….really?
congratzz…
To all inspiranothing buyers, Myvvi is the best. It is more stable than the Protong.
u mean 140km/h?
My previous myvi hit 120km/hr also shake like sampan you go 200Km/hr??
Well come to Hell bro.
You Die tak apa…don’t cause other innocent people on the road.
I see most of the MyVi drivers driving above 140km / hour on the road, I thought the car is can get so fast and steady? I am driving a Civic and always been challenged by those guys.
agreed..always been beamed by them on highway (when i’m not driving myVi..hehe..)..for real 200km/h..?mine more than 130km/h felt like flying..
What to be proud of…..200km/h on the road.
200km/h = saman waiting for you.
200km/h = workshop waiting for you.
200km/h = someone waiting for you.
my waja cps 1 year old driver side power window KO twice..it happens to many other new waja cps owners as well..just go to read in the forums…
History can repeat itself..ppl dun simply bash for no reason…there are many blind supporters here as well
there are many blind bashers here that’s why there are blind supporters as well, so what?
i also can say that my c200 merc has window problem, what say you?
that’s kind of problem had been rectified by metal piece of device instead of previous plastic one, you mean the bracket right? if the power window switch , it’s cost les than rm100 , so why should bother ?
Seriously, i still wanted to find out the signal stick is on the left side or right side???
It’s rebadge lancer. So it’s on the right. Haha
Wow! It’s more than 1000 comments here…Congrats Paul. I believe this has breaked your blog records !
Well done Inspira. You are the 1st topic of the week.
If G remove all taxes for foreign cars, I think there will be less Proton bashers. Most bash Proton thinking because of the quality but the fact is if they can get alternatives for similar prices they wouldn’t be so angry.
Angry because not given a choice, then bash lor.
No need to remove taxes on CBU imports or local assembled foreign brands. Just restore back the same levels when Proton was not exist when brand new Nissan Sunny was sold at RM18K.
Back then, Proton Saga 1.5 was sold at RM17+K and you know what happened? They couldn’t sell! So G imposed all sort of taxes and slowly jerked up the prices of the rest making Proton look cheaper.
For the sake of national economy growth, and for the pride of being the only car manufacturer in ASEAN countries, the rakyat endured the pain, paying hell a lot extra for cras (very much needed cause our public transport system sucks) and let Proton grows from infancy to catch up with the rest of the manufacturers.
25 years had passed and what happened now?
1) We all got so used to cars taking up 40% of our disposable incomes, averagely speaking.
2) Proton back to what they were doing when they got started: rebadging Mitsubishi’s cars.
3) Proton’s build quality still not on par with the rest of the world, except maybe kicking some Chinese models.
4) Proton still depends n G’s protectionism to survive.
5) Proton uses rakyat monies on “investments” like Lotus (15 years without profits) and F1 (big time money burning even profitable big shots like BMW, Honda and Toyota also pulled out, what for?).
I think many of us really do not mind supporting Proton if they are doing what it was missioned for a quarter century ago. Or else, if they are good in adding spices and make an existing model handles and drives better with local parts, by all means, apply the same strategies and practices on models of others’ popular make. At least we get marginally close to what we are paying for!
Oh, when that really happens, I bet they will be little people bashing Proton.
very good points bro SaddanMYS…agree with u…
if taxes are not in the way…most would get other brands…and Proton wont attract so much heat…
why many people mad at Proton?…cos like me…tax protection for Proton made only Proton affordable…just like the Inspira is made ‘affordable’…every other brand was taxed beyond my means…
my experiences with different models of Proton were the same with many people…and cos most people have owned a Proton at one time or another…we know what each other know…are there problems with other brands? sure got…but its not the common experience…
When G removed taxes….well, that day will never come within our lifetime!
Aiyah, life very stressed mah, cannot scold wife, children, boss or even family cat….so bash for fun loh.
But refrain from name calling, etc.
Maybe some parties want to do damage control, pls go ahead.
Let everyone have some fun, release stress.
Power window….aiya true my non-P1 car had a problem once….but since solved, ok already.
My P1 no worries, all 4 windows of 2005 model, manual winding and no power steering. ABS,EBD, ASD Air bag…….all don’t have. Got plastic bag throw rubbish only.
Handling very good becos…got manual mah, ha ha ha.
Now with Sachs Touring damper, i think less rattle!
I can guarantee Raya accident rate will get higher next year. What do you expect if number of Evo (with replica brake, airbag and engine ) on the road is increased by 1000%.
Traffic police will ask, ini proton atau Mitsu ? Cakap lah baik baik, nak buat polis report tau?
higher because of inspira or what? don’t simply guarantee la bro..u’re not the god u know. accident happens not only because of cars. don’t comment like a childish la .
I am driving a Saga with 5 yeas of road experience. I seen may Proton been ” Rebadged” to Mitsu Lancer, Eterna, CivicTypeR (joker), Passo…etc. See those Rebadge car and obeserve how fast they drive. We have many of those loser who thaught they are driving Japanese sport car after the Rebadge.
please la, traffic police is not as stupid as you think, they got helang squad which uses evo X already
Thats great, we will see real Evo ( Known as Helang squad) catching faith Evo (known as Burung kakak squad) on the road very soon.
my wife bought PERSONA SE 1 year ago. dont’t need wait too long to see the 1st problem striked. check this persona problems out :
1st month : the fuel tank cover pop-up from its place!
2nd month : the tail ligt brokes after she hit a PLASTIC DUSTBIN while reversing her car with speed approximately 100m/hour (very slow)
3rd month : the THUDERCATS emblem droped by itself( maybe they used paper glue to stick it)
5th month : pin lock for the air filter box broke..very stupid!! now i have to tie it up with tali rapia!!!
6th month untill 10th month : i felt like the fuel consumption of her persona is more than my turbo-charger lancer (it’s just CAMPRO 1.6 bangang engine)
1 year : there’s no different between inside the microwave oven and inside my wife’s persona, STUPIDLY HOT!!!. THE AIR-COND IS NOT WORKING!!!!!!!!!!
they always claimed BELILAH BARANGAN BUATAN MALAYSIA. that is way we call it KERETA BUATAN MALAYSIA!! Buatan PROTON all cheap in materiasl. low cost vendors are being contracted to give more benefit to PROTON CEO. do u think PROTON’s CEO drives his own brand????do u think KERETA BUATAN PROTON is good???? absolutely NO!! got quality ?? NO NO NO NO NO!!!do u think its cheap? HELL NO!! 3.9% of interest. calculate your self.
i’m proud to be MALAYSIAN but MALAYSIAN MADE CAR especially PROTON??….ape yang nak dibanggakan???? dikesalkan lagi ada!!!!
the Proton’s CEO does drive a proton!
isn’t their CEO drive Lexus..
Why can’t they improve on the QC???
How many years already proton has been established.
Doubt on this inspira too… after so many models…
no need to yell here, please don’t use capital letters , it’s useless to shout many times , you really got the problems?or just a stupid bash? the problems are not serious , at least not as serious as other brands such as toyota , can repair it easily, no big deal
mujib, give me the chasis number, I help you to prepare a written complaint to Proton’s CEO.
Bro Mujib,
Telling us all the bad things about your car is a good thing for us to be careful in the future. It was every unfortunate that all those small issues such as peeled off emblem, broken pin lock etc. happened to you. I believe as your car is still under warranty you should fight very hard during your scheduled service time. Any other car brand will be also the same as we have read in the the T or H forums. Quality is controlled by human and bad QC happenned not only to Proton.
May be you are fated to receive such as trial to test your patience. Do believe in your qada & qadar and try to improve the situation without regretting. My 16 years old Iswara still serving me very well and all I need is to purchase the fuel when the low level indicator lit. Many of us will help you to overcome your situation as our friend JohnDeep will communicate with proton DSZ.
Back to its root I see. What do you think guys?
I was expecting a little more differentiation on the rear side of the car but was letdown again.
Just hope they will decrease the price timely as more parts are made locally. (Would this be another letdown later?)
they did mentioned that they’re trying to get production right from Mitsubishi to produce Lancer (not Inspira) for export market. the specifications on Inspira is quite similar to those Lancer in the Europe, so i guess Proton is hoping to export Lancer to Europe and Australia (under mitsubishi badge, not Proton).
that’s why, i think the changes on Inspira is very minimal compared to Lancer. they can use the same metal stamping machine for both inspira & lancer, and keep the cost down. they also trying to export parts produced here to mitsubishi to gain from economy of scale.
but u think Mitsubishi dare to let proton play mamasak with their lancer? built from proton quality sure incomparable to Mitsu.
like my i10, built from inokom CKD. my door come out irritating sound…the autorised service center said…it’s assemble from malaysia…u can’t aspect wat…walau-.-”’ why malaysia always make things worst?
maybe Malaysian workers hv ” I work for salary” attitude not work because “I luv the job and want to be proud of the result(production)… hmmm…
Went to proton showroom and was impressed with the car. Looks gorgeous and solid to me with a decent dashboard etc. almost booked the car myself BUT…after due consideration…
What would stop me from buying this car is not the car itself..but proton’s after service…sure there’s a warranty and all but im sure some of you have bad experience with proton servicing/maintenance..charge a bomb, mechanics can say “biasa la proton ada bunyi2 sikit”, there this one case where my friend sent his car because the engine oil was leaking..the mechanic charged RM600 but didnt repair the leaking! another friend owns a proton and found an irritating rattling sound from inside the door..until warranty finish also the mechanic cannot solve the problem
so before buying a car, its not just the car itself but the after sales service and maintenance..Mitsubishi officers/mgmt might be there at the production line to monitor quality control..but do u think they would bother to monitor the quality of servicing as well?
don’t send to ‘authorised service centres’… send to proton service centres. I’ve experience both, so I know the different.
otherwise, send your car to ‘authorised’ only for normal servicing (changing oil, spark plugs, etc..) but send to proton centres if you need major parts replaced.
Hahaha.. i’m a proton owner too, i used to be hear the same sentence as u did…. “Proton, haizzz …memang like that one… ” frm all mechanics…
Went to show room to see the car just now. I saw the Mitsu sales man that I bought my Grandis from. Asked him why changed to Proton, he said ” Dulu jual Lancer, sekarang jual replica Lancer, sama juga”
Ask him for discount ” he said he can give me a free Mitsubishi logo “. Yang bumper tu, he can recommend a workshop at Sunway.
I had booked my Inspira on 12 Oct and put a deposit of RM1000 based on Paul Tan write up and internet information.
The sale person call me that the car is available for viewing in the show room when I was outstation.
From the airport I when to the show room at 9pm.
Ask the sale person for the strong point of Inspira which is mainly a Lancer. To prove the point he show me the Mitsubishi logo on the front and back glass planels.
Luck was with me that a Lancer boy was nearby.
He answered my concern that there is no CBU as the chassis label PL which is make in Proton and not Japan.
From the sound of the door , he suspect that Proton could had add some sound proofing.
In the boot, the foam is not for sound proofing but to raise it up by 4 inches since Proton put is a conventional tire instead of a Lancer emergency tire and the Inspira loose some boot space.
The Lancer boy noted that the cooling coil was shifted which may be Proton answer to the overheating in Lancer.
No one can explain about Proton modification to a better air intake including the Proton Shah Alam HQ.
That night a Lancer couple walk in and the wife when straight to the Inspira and knock it with her knuckle and she happily tell her husband that their Lancer is better as the body part are thicker.
Next day I went to Shah Alam HQ to view the 2 litre car and was disappointed that the leather seat workmanship is very bad. The GPS was a stick on and not built in. The sale person was not able to answer my technical questions and he claim it is due to Proton poor training program.
I tested the 1.8 and found that it is a bit rough but better than Forte. My Kia Optima has a smoother engine and drive which I brought it for RM85,000.
Every sale person I met told me that they can not guarantee immediate delivery of Inspira even I fully pay for it and had to wait for further information. Proton marketing ?
Should I buy Inspira or not ? Should I ask Proton to return my RM1000 booking fee.
It is value for money to buy a cheap Lancer ( only true in Malaysia ) assemble by Proton?
I think I buy it since it is Lancer and a better informed customer.
Copycat still 1 2 do like so mysterious…walau tak boleh tahan nia… wat’s the different between lancer? why b4 launching need to masking tape the bumper and wat wat wat? when launching still 1 2 do like a very brand new or something special that never seen b4 tis kind of things? necessary? wont they feel ashamed? copy ppl things liao still 1 2 do like is their own things and do like it’s very new ah neh???
you don’t read the review don’t you? firstly it’s not a copycat, but rebadging, there’s differences between the two, second, there are differences between old lancer and inspira, want to know more ? please READ!
Since the day after i took the car until now, air cond prob never solved.
Drive halfway need to stick hand under to shake wire.
Darn, even my rear door frame warp by itself, leaving gap for rain n noise………
The fastest it can go I think 145km/hr want to go to heaven already. 5 spd manual.
Inspira, Myvi, Toyota…so many choices.
Myvi and Saga doing so well. My frens Myvi got door lock prob also.
The winner will still be Proton. Later u will see many Inspira govt agencies start using, maybe even VIPs.
Got gd excuse to change cars.
Lets change all the Polis patrol to Insi pilar.
too many blind bashers. *sigh*
comparing his proton cars from 10 years ago, thought that it same quality with newer models. too much appraising imported models. too much complaining in our own products & never support. pls try to follow proton’s improvement. personally i think proton have improved a lot..i didnt hear major problem on proton latest models.
1) i test drive lancer before & IMO its quality is actually not that good. so I dont expect much from inspira.look @ bright side that proton actually improved the lancer in some angel.
anyway its a lot cheaper,if u think u want improvement, u can save the money & modify inspira to be a lot better than lancer. its still cheaper than original lancer gt.
2) if u expect highly on imported cars, i have friends who have a lot of problems on his imported cars. well..maybe they dont talk about that a lot because..of course, he bought expensive imported cars ma..shame la kalau kutuk kereta sendiri.. kalau proton takpe coz ramai pengikut..
3) if u praised produa a lot coz better quality than proton, maybe coz produa get toyota parts which they think its good. my wife’s myvi, my friends @ office got myvi, and their car realy have problems.. 3 of 4 power windows not working, reverse sensor gone crazy, rear boot ‘hydrolic’ fail. rear door plastic came out..latest, before last raya, aircond compressor failed, need to change. wth the car is only 3 years old.mechanic says that compressor failure on myvi is common.
nah, i dont want to write much. but i congrats proton for inspira. even though i guess inspira is like a ‘filler’ model, proton to produce less cost model & make maximum profit so they can do R&D on next models. i,m very exited to hear about proton,s next models, persona R, exora hybrid, turbo engine, etc… pls la malaysians.. see the bright side & u can see proton is actually moving forward quite fast already. they could be a lot better with ur support…read more & dont just stupidly bashing..
ahaks..
p/s : i,m not proton staff.. proton didnt pay me 4 this comment :p
p/s2 : i like inspira more if it use twin tip muffler..huhu.. civic 1.8 also use twin tip. exora 1.6 use stupid twin tip. if inspira 1.8 use twin tip i would looks a lot tougher.. i guess :)
don’t really want to bash proton, in fact i might buy this inspira as i clearly is the best proton yet, albeilt only by name. The thruth of the matter is, no matter how they sugarcoate the whole car maker business, they are surviving under the protection of the government. Without the unfairly written rules, they will not even last 2 months(i’m being kind).
My personal wish is to one day seeing the return of open and fair car trading policy/market in malaysia, which is the way it should be. As the country is moving forward(???), people’s quality of life is improveing(again, ????), the society will be better informed and have more understanding towards the whole thing. sooner or later, rakyat will definitely become more and more frustrated with it, and hopefully changes will come. The way the national car maker joke simply isn’t so funny anymore.
This car is going to make police life difficult. One fine day, during the speed trap operation…
” Nomber WXX 56xx, speeding 140km/Hr, nampak macam Proton, mungkin Mitusbishi budak…..OK confirm…depan Proton belakang Mitsubishi.
When it comes to car everybody claims to know everything. Come on lah fellows, buying a car is a matter of ‘preferences’. Not everyone likes to eat roti canai or asam pedas. Moreover, different people choose a car based on different concerns. Some people buy cars for status, some go for performance, some go for ride and handling quality, some go for cheaper prices, in a nutshell it depends on your taste and concern. I own a myvi ezi and it has been serving me very well. I drive it everyday to go to work. Currently, i’ve just traded in my waja and booked for the inspira 1.8mt. My concern is ride quality as my family love to go for vacations. But what i couldn’t understand is that why people here should compare between the proton and perodua as i’m driving both for different use. The myvi is for urban driving due to its easy manouverability and my inspira is for country driving. If your concern is image and status go for the continental or japs cars as you can afford it. But my concern is price, easy maintenance and quality ride and i’m not relly into status. However, for your info, i own a proper 22×85 double storey landed house and it is my biggest concern for the family.
Nak beli beli, tak nak beli pon takpe. Dah book satu :)
interior like of an 5 yrs old car…..dull, boring and cheap…..panel gaps are too obvious…radio senget in the showroom car…wtf…..
interest rate for Proton is a rip off…..
SC and after sales….duh…dont need to mention….rubbish….
Saw the 1.8 cvt……..it’s space is ok.
Rear seats…..too soft.
Front seats with high side, every day rub, later got wear.
For 85k…….sigh….like this only ah?
Even the Satria so-called lotus handling only refers to tuning only, this one done by Proton only.
Any tyre shop can dial in more toe-in or camber for you. End-up higher tyre wear.
Wider tyres better grip but prone to aquaplaning when it gets too wet.
The Cruze I tested 2 months ago much better but I really admire the way VW makes their chairs.
Go n try other brands before choosing.
Sorry lah, this one no pass. Perdana was much more impressive.
you sell chevrolet or vw?
No lah, no sell either lah.
wow, u think ride and handling involve toe in or toe out??? all proton standard toe is +-o toe. it is standard, u dont want toe to be more than that.
what a funny guy, ride and handling = toe
Thanks Mat for the education.
Ride=spring and damper unit. I think only lah.
Handling=i think u r expert rite?
Not just use toe only…also need to play with camber….i think, but u r expert rite.
Toe for the front 2 wheels only….more like toe angle.
this kind of price you can’t expect ‘that” kind of detail right?
Realistic a bit and if you are rich just go for merc, bmw or lexus…
if you work before in QC department you will know that to make everything sound right, you need tremendous time and effort and those who just like to brag (basher, criticizer) surely have no such patient.
Don’t be blind.
BTW, basher,criticizer should test drive first, than start critics?
Everything got Pros n Cons, let the basher do their job.
There are also many positive comments as well.
This is a very simple strategy, selling cheaper than all your competitors and use a full Jap model which is already in the market!
Malaysians will not blindly listen to basher. Serious buyer will go down, maybe test-drive first, so no worries at all.
a lot of people still narrow minded like Proton mind set, You think our national car is cheap ? Go advance country who has much higher income than us, see how much is their car price.
true, but look at their income tax rate too
QC dept…ha ha ha.
Most important, learn to stick the stickers properly.
Whatever happened to QA or PDI.
QC also important learn how to write all kinds of excuses (imagined or real or mixed) for corrective action.
Test drive is good for 5 mins…..buying it aaah that one real test drive on daily basis.
Dating and marriage different rite?
Ha ha ha…..Point A to B, of course ok. But for those with limted budgets, sacrifices just to invest in this ride…….really need to think clearly whether it is worth the additional stress.
There are also many out there who say their perdana is problem free, etc but how come the govt itself is complaining about gearbox and maintenance issues?
Go figure.
Even if Proton factory were to export Lancers, well, the requirements will be different.
So lets be very awake when you put down your pen on the contract.
QC dept…ha ha ha.
Most important, learn to stick the stickers properly.
Whatever happened to QA or PDI.
QC also important learn how to write all kinds of excuses (imagined or real or mixed) for corrective action.
Test drive is good for 5 mins…..buying it aaah that one real test drive on daily basis.
Dating and marriage different rite?
Ha ha ha…..Point A to B, of course ok. But for those with limted budgets, sacrifices just to invest in this ride…….really need to think clearly whether it is worth the additional stress.
There are also many out there who say their perdana is problem free, etc but how come the govt itself is complaining about gearbox and maintenance issues?
Go figure.
Even if Proton factory were to export Lancers, well, the requirements will be different.
So lets be very awake when you put down your pen on the contract.
you may ask the government drivers, do they have time to do checking or they are overload with very tight schedules? pity them!
90k+ is obviously not for many people,
90+k is obviously not for mass market , just for certain groups of people , persona is the much more suitable option
Hmmmmm Merc, BMW and Lexus, wah, very high standard.
Mazda, Nissan..these type of benchmark more suitable?
Just Test Drive: 1.8 wow…! ( Waiting to test 2.0 =)
I think Proton makes wise decision to rebadge the Lancer, it costs less investment to Proton and there are many people who like Lancer very much in Malaysia.
Instead Proton invest more on future Persona. Afterall, Proton needs to focus, so very nice if it can focus and produce good Saga, Pesona and the Exora.
I think Proton is in a better track than before (if not in the right track)!
Yes they are at the right track like 25 years ago.
Tested the 1.8 auto today, good !! booking for 2.0L white, but the waiting period for white is 3-4 months now! 92k still a bit high price
wow..tats gud…
not enough money 2 buy civic 1.8..
now i spend it on ispira 2.0….
very nice handling, smooth engine like japanese car ( own vios b4 )
large interior cabin and soft suspension..
but da rim looks ugly lol :)
congrats!
nak tukar rim 16″ murah je bro. byk kedai accept trade in.
‘smooth engine like japanese car ( own vios b4 )’
of course la..it still the mivec engine.. :))
nice design, BUT MITSUBISHI’S DESIGN.
hoping there’s a malaysian that would be the designer of the next malaysian car, inside and outside. :)
I didn’t find any comment on a spesific problem like Alza wind noise so far, only complaint on the car price. It shows that Proton quality is improving.
gud..gud..comment..!
gotta love the white color variant 1. Specs and features and performance undoubtly very interesting, first time a national car can offer so much features (but of course at a higher price to pay).
Went to the showroom and checked out the Inspira, model is 1.8 auto one. My comment is the interior is still seriously cheap, especially the grade of plastic they use. Assembly issues such as the plug for empty slot on the right most side of the dashboard is already knocked in, as if someone is using hammer to knock it in. The armrest storage box closing and opening snap just doesn’t feel right, and also the glovebox open/close snap is hard to the feel.
Oh ya, the car door closing sound is nothing like those foreign cars. In fact, this has happened throughout all proton models. This is no big deal of course, but for a car like Inspira priced at 80k to 90k, proton shouldn’t save on making the door close with a more refined and ‘high quality’ feel.
Wouldn’t it be perfect if they can put in more effort for all these minor shortcomings? Because layman wise, this is how average people judge a car build quality.
Other than this, this is an overall good car. Gotta test drive it someday :)
I’m not sure if you guys noticed this…. Lancer GT price in Langkawi is 72k but Inspira price in Langkawi is 83k… and… Inspira comes with 26% local parts…. isn’t it hilarious??
try read some comments above.
macha, try to read the comment from Tetsuya Oda.LOL.
Proton own principal say you suck? Epic fail, at launch.
LOL
This is why we have a “beautiful mind”…Too many comments and discussions here..haha..
During Malaysia Hari Ini TV3 program on 11/11/10, DSZ said they will intoduce Inspira with some cosmetic modification during KL autoshow in Dec 10.
So, just wait & see
what? baru aje launch dah buat plastic surgery? gilo ke?
DSZ ingat rakyat mesia cetak wang cepat… :)
Bro what DSZ means is the Jebat Inspira.
So for those who would like to have sporty inspira, you can order Jebat by next year 1st qtr.
sokong…sb aku pon ade gak lancer…hehe…hasil jual tanah getah…ngidam sgt, aq beli 1 lancer…same lah kite tukar lambang proton nt ye…
what i cant understand is..why we local buyers are forces to accept the so called affordable price..but when they exprot it to western country they are selling it much more cheaper ang the feutures of the car are better in terms of accesories and saftey aspect?…Kera di hutan disusukan……
In other country, they position it at image of Lotus. …mesti bungkus baik baik and cantik cantik. But at the end, sales tak cantik tak guna juga.
I suppose the size of Inspira is close to Accord, not something like Civic or Altis class.. isn’t it? correct me if I’m wrong..
much smaller la, is about same size with Civic, Altis
After all the ass kissing abt how good the Inspira’s handling is.
MMM has issued this statement with regards to the Inspira.
Paul what have you got to say about this?
We need some explaination here.
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/business/article/Mitsubishi-says-Lancer-Inspira-alike-but-not-same/
esp with regards to QC and safety standards.
:)
of course MMM will say Lancer is better, and Inspira for local market only…
maybe we could try race both Lancer & Inspira in Sepang or Kuala Kubu? hehehe.
you are comparing a rotten apple with fresh apple. Both so called apple but taste differently ok.
Poor Proton, even your own principal is distancing away from you.
Quality la, national pride la, all sampah.
“Strange that MMM needs to make a statement about having better quality than Proton and the need to distance themselves from Proton. Either they have short-changed Proton yet again with sub-standard cars or they want to disassociate from having done their national service”
Sorry Proton Inspira owners, you’ve been p4w3d!
Smart people get it? What smart people?
King for a day, fool for a lifetime.
you get what you pay for, it’s not fool to buy inspira if it’s less quality than old lancer, bt japs have to say something to keep their customers from being loyal to their products.
anyway, the inspira is no as bad as what people think, ride and handling wise, i believe it wins hands down, so now really want to know any reviews or real experience, not just believing and bashing here and there
Nobody really say the Inspira not good. Maybe some rumuours Lancer CVT faced overheating problems initially after constant high speed cruising.
Anyway, not necessarily the person say good thing will be buyer or finally buy the model. Just an opinion.
Proton quality…….depends on luck, some like me not so lucky. Got a few dissappointments here n there.
Yes, it moves…..forgot my manual gearbox died within warranty period. After that it was patched back like frankenstein, gasket paste along the joint lines.
Nope, did not drive like crazy but just pottering around town.
This is not bashing, just sharing my experience.
does the article in any way mention the word “BETTER”?
or
mentioning “LANCER is BETTER than INSPIRA”?
intepretation…. intepretation…. intepretation….
it all boils down to how you INTEPRET what Mr. Oda said.
does the article in any way ever mention the word “BETTER”?
it all boils down to INTEPRETATION.
i think YOUR intepretation and HIS intepretation may have been abit differ.
Aku x paham nape org benci sangat proton. Kalau x suka jgn beli. Pi la cari kereta import yg diagungkan tu. Banyak sangat komen membunuh kat sini. R&D guna tax payer’s money? Bullshit! Kat malaysia x guna konsep tax payer’s money untuk R&D sebuah syarikat. Cukup2 la tu mengata. Yang korang beli keta import tu sebenarnya memenuhkan kantung syarikat luar.
Sesungguhnya org malaysia memang tamak dan x pernah puas hati dengan apa2 pon
I guess people believe that our national car has been over protected otherwise today we shall have driving an imported car with much lower price.
A lousy tactic of using high tax and duty for protection.
Hot news!
Inspira 3,000 booking already..!!!
WOOW..SPEECHLESS…
So what, juara kampung can la. Even DSZ said Proton cannot rely on local consumer alone.
Try getting even 500 unit in developed market like Australia, see whether educated and savvy buyers will prefer p4wn3d or the real mccoy.
hairil, you need to get more education, and understand how tax payers money subsidize not only Proton’s R&D, but Proton’s entire existence since its birth.
Why Inspira 90K Proton CKD banyak laku…
Tapi Nautika 90K Perodua CBU hampeh…..?
Good point, Bro…
1. Nautica isn’t that ugly also
2. Rush is sold around the same price
Why?
When Malaysia produces a product, everyone will criticizes about low quality, siok sendiri, expensive for Malaysian, no idea, etc…most will talk about a better Japanese car or conti cars, but how many of them do drive and own these cars..maybe half of those are using Malaysian made..it’s true as some of the comments “you get what you pay for” so face it, if you can afford a 130k Jap’s or even a 250k Conti’s gor for it but if pocket only have 60k and can settle for a roaring tiger badge then shut your mouth up and dont talk about high quality or superiority. It’s true proton here are expensive compared to those sold overseas, so does Jap’s & Conti’s…proton sold overseas are cheaper just becoz the Jap’s & Conti’s are cheap too..so if proton to be sold the same price as in Malaysia it will only collect dust and rust..
Everyone wants a high paying job in Malaysia but wants a cheap product..Please realize that in order to PAY high must SELL high..Jap’s and Conti’s have their factory in 3rd world or developing countries to lower down their production cost, so they can sell cheap..IF protons does the same, people will still criticizes saying the government offering jobs for outsiders meanwhile jobs in Malaysia is insufficient..for me some Malaysia will always be Malaysian with a third world mentality..face it, stop criticizing and try give a helping hand, idea or solution..
First and foremost this is Paultan.org, not Utusan Meloya, so stop with the SOP Proton propaganda already. The readers here are not some disfranchised destitute kampung fella surviving on hand outs.
RPQ says:
..Jap’s and Conti’s have their factory in 3rd world or developing countries to lower down their production cost, so they can sell cheap.
You need to take a flight beyond .my and visit Midwest, USA…once upon a time, Detroit was the hub of North America auto industry. Cars were made cheap because it was build in Detroit for the Americans, and yes, it was cheap for them. Even the Nips (slur for Japs) open factory in the US, and yes, sold quality cheap cars for Americans.
But not Proton, been 25 years, still cars is comparatively expensive, and comparatively low standard than imports. Invested here and there, Lotus la, german QC la, what la, all Proton marketing b*shit, still crap.
An automobile company, is an industry, not a community project. Plain and simple. If it doesn’t make the numbers, it closes down, period. Malaysian on the other hand are so emotional about Proton with comments like ‘ stop criticizing, give helping hand’. You think Proton is some kind of NGO or charity? Malaysian provided enough ‘charity’ by bowing down to the ridiculous 300% import tax since Proton was introduced 25 years ago.
Proton, epic fail!
You know what an epic fail? The typical basher who still believes the 300% import tax is still around when in truth the maximum tax for cars is now less than half that.
And another epic fail is a basher who thinks local made cars aren’t taxed as well.
If proton close down, do u think the tax will down as well???
I do not think so…..
Proton most unlikely to close but no, tax will not come down got P2 and Naza lagi.
rebadge? why not? it will save hundereds of miliions due to R&D so called paid from tax payer money.
ada wang beli, takda wang bashing
Ada yg bash tetapi beli juga…..200 million also hundred, 300 400 500 900…..wooosh……banyak dia jimah ya.
Tax payer pay some, car buyer pay some and Proton also make a bit of money.
Most impt, Mitsubishi also get paid……..aaaaaahhh, mcm itu shj.
wanna buy inspira and compare it with my evo x…=P
1200
Huh.. i know most of us want to have INSPIRA but dont have money.. hahaha
(the comments 1200 plus already)
So, they but blame on PRICE…
So, Big Salary guys get it !!!
Bukan Smart Guy Get It la, tapi Stupid Guy Get It. Hanya orang bodoh saja yang beli ini Inspira.
Agreed. Proton Inspira – Dumb/Stupid Guys Get It!
just back from showroom , simply love at first sight ! well done , Proton . Hope for the delivery of my new inspira at the soonest possible . ( sales person promised to deliver my car latest by march next year due to heavy booking ) , hmm ……….. have to wait so long .
Wa lao so many sales………Gud Luck to QC/QA and Production……and also the Purchasers.
Everything must be fast fast, faster.
Proton made right decision….good job by marketing boys.
Of course, many of us wish it was around 70k on the road but what to do, Proton need to make profit also mah, this year sure dapat bonus cemerlang, thanks to Inspiraaaa.
70% bash becos of price, 30% bash becos stress and provide good feedback for Proton to improve further.
Not every quarter or year got Inspira…..pls don’t screw up the PDI…so that sales will follow thru to mid-next year easily!
cuba teka model apa yang akan ditiru oleh proton lagi.
toyota passo..
hmm itu department Perodua, ha ha ha
Shame to Proton….
I still remember what Proton say long time ago about Produa since Produa took over No.1 local car crown until today.
Org tua kata ” Cam Meludah ke langit, pastu tadah muka sendiri”…
Proton MD said, this is not copyright but transfer technology exercise…. so what Proton do for the past 25 years.
1Malaysia = Shareholder didahulukan, Proton & Modenas diutamakan.
Proton is back in track 25 years ago. Good job keep it up and do the same thing like 25 years ago. THere are still people telling different between rebadge and copycat. Sigh…
One day you get caught of copying your classmate home work, you tell the teacher you are not copy but you rebadge only wit 80% of coriginal content
what do you mean back to 25 years ago? proton is still doing rebadge for Perdana all this while, so technically they’re not making u-turn at all.
MovingCepat, you are absolutely right. 25 years is a long time. Direction is not clear and still being protected. Otherwise, we shall have getting a cheaper imported car by now. Rebadge…what a shame. There are losers who still cannot understand what is different between rebadge and copypaste.
Proton got multiple direction, ha ha ha.
Some ownself do, some licenced.
I don’t know whether the door panels and sub-frame done in-house but it is cheaper than the other cars.
Indirectly telling the market, don’t over expect.
Proton approved vendor part sets the base.
Of course, the first 1 year material should not fail, in fact it should have problems only after warranty period. It’s not just QC or PDI, this part also critical.
Saya dah beli Toyota Altis 1.8 RM112,800. & speed DVVTI Dual. masa jual Toyota Vios 2004 saya, saya dapat tunai RM17,000 selepas tolak FullSettlement . Harap Proton dapat puaskan pembeli bila jual x rugi sangat.. Tahniah Proton dan Selamat Maju Jaya.
waja batch 2001 new.. trade with nissan on 2008 for new car loh.. got rm25000 ++
i dont know if today car 2nd hand value dropped..
One thing for sure,they have a manual transmission and i really hate automatic transmission…………
Paul,
Correct me if i am wrong that this engine is also known as GEMA where is was jointly
develop by MMC,Chrysler and Hyundai-Kia with all aluminium block..
An if is right than we are seeing that it shares the same platforms against the
Theta family engine that is used by Hyundai-Kia..
Theta = 4B families but Hyundai is ahead with the 6 speed GDI so we might
be seeing this later in MMC latest model..
proton best!!! bagi peluang rakyat pandu kereta mitsubishi yang mahal tapi pada harga jauh murah. bagi kaki komplen tak habis-habis, sedarlah. kurang-kurang proton ada bagi manfaat daripada korang yang bunyi macam tin kosong tapi hasil takdak. kereta mahal mcm merc,bmw, audi, volks, toyota, nissan, ataupun ferrari, lamboghini, masserati, bentley, mahupun bugatti veyron pun banyak juga masalah dan rosak. sebab dah tak ramai mampu pakai, tak nampaklah sangat problemnya… sorry…. hehehe.
Hmmmmm Mitsubishi…….i ingat kereta Mitsu biasa sahaja.
Macam manusia, ada juga yg jarang sakit. Proton…..ada model ok sikit.
Rosak tak apa, yg penting jgn langgar tiang.
just noticed in the ads printed ‘handling by Proton”….so no more lotus,finally Proton gets the credit they deserve
They also mentioned the Proton engineers apparently previously with Lotus!
Ha ha ha.
I believe all marketing gimmic only. More like tuned to consider local road conditions. ie. pot holes and uneven roads.
Sports car n family car……different category.
Anyway, Lotus just helped with the tuning of the Satria suspension, not fully design it from ground up.
Murah salah, mahal salah, RnD salah, Facelift Salah, rebadge salah, cosmetik salah… lagi? Setidaknya P1 atau P2 kenderaan yang mampu dimilik rakyat malaysia. Bising sgt beli kereta kuda merah lah. lol
I think the price is too excessive or the value of Malaysian ringgit is moving towards ala Indonesia rp. Just amagine the cost of a glass of kopi O is about 3,000 rp Indonesian money. We need to adapt to the new Malaysia Ringgit value so that we don’t feel the proton value so expensive…
get an inspira, install surbo, then take off like ferrari..
haloo! thiis car ah bahan all from japan but proton amik utk buat CKD car la cheaper but barang sume dari mitsu mcm myvi la . so kalau korang nk beli bagus harga murah cume kete ni bukan CBU . renung2 kan la kalau nk beli tu. aku pon tak tahu la kualiti CKD ni elok ke tak.
Kalau tak tau kualiti CKD ni elok ke tak, lu diam-diam je la bodoh. Toksah pandai-pandai menyalak kat sini macam anjing kurap.
Book mine last Sunday. Ordered the 2.0 CVT P. This would be my second Proton after 1997 1.3 Satria.
Specifically ask the sales person to only release mine earliest Feb 2011 !!
ONE Great Infor
Currently having 1-2 units of Toyota Caldina Chasis within their testing area…
From latest source, in mid of year 2011, they will launch an SUV…
Whether will use Caldina model or not OR just to take Caldina model as a referring, this one, i will not able to answer it
Beside, regarding the Inspira matters, Proton plan to source a new gear box instead of using the INVEC III from Mitsubitshi due to the pass history of Perdana, They worry the gear box cant lasting at constant high speed…
The new gear box will be Belgium or Switzerland…. If i am not mistaken is a manufacturer from Belgium……
Or Paul got some ideas in hand but not the right time to comment something.. hahahahaha
my brother saw some material from proton during the inspira launching and yes, proton plans to launch an SUV next year..and he said its look awesome!
No use one lah…….P1 got so many classy benchmark cars in yard…..problem is that most of the tech…..sadly….got patent one…….different alloy=different price….welding type also different….so even got rolls royce sample also no use one. Leather got so many different type.
wait 5 years than maybe can buy 2nd hand :D
You wouldn’t want it then knowing how local drivers love to race at traffic lights or sit in traffic jam…….u will be needing a new CVT by then. Means manual still ok lah.
All those who say no friction during traffic jam……….think again…..no friction on plates how to move the wheels….ha ha ha.
Apa lah nvh, pasang sandwich foam kao tim already lah…..can stick door panel, boot panel……..engine bay got other type.
Dear lancer owners, need not being upset. This clearly defines that those who can afford it already owned it 2-3years ago. And those who can’t afford it is jumping joy now. This same goes comparing someone who cannot afford genuine LV goods will say their lookalike AA graded LV looks the same as original ones. End of the day Mitsubishi is still Mitsu and proton will still remain proton no matter how u modify it. Get it? Those who can only afford Proton get a life and stop comparing your proton lookalike LGT with the real Mitsu LGT and no way in the registration card your proton inspira can become lancer GT
who cares, inspira got better nvh, handling. comfort than gt
hahaah. Any hate to break the news to all, Mitsu will lauch a new model, to compete to the likes of the new civic 2011, and Hyudai avante the latest looks them awesome. So i prety much sure Lancer is gone come out with a new design and technology. To bad for Toyota they are gone be left behind by just lauching the updated version of altis. kaakka
of course la Proton will say Inspira is better than GT, because they need to sell, make money or bungkus…better Nvh?, Better handling and comfort..?……One thing they dare not mention is BETTER QUALITY…!!!!!!
Booked my car Oct 12. Still not delivered. Dealer says Proton told everyone not to deliver till Proton gives green light. Fake demand. About to cancel my order if it doesnt come in 1 week.
i booked on Oct 9. Yeah I’m going to cancel my booked if not getting it in 1 week. Sucks already
Dealer called me, they will get my car soon, by end of week. Yippee. I went to Hyundai Sonata showroom, and delivery is in Feb-Mar. So beggars can’t be choosers.
are u sure by end of this week u will get it? allocation and chassis no already got? or they just want to play u some time? i don’t get anything yet
saw the car yesterday,dealer registering tomorrow. :-) Good luck to you.
Proton Inspira buyers should ask for full refund. Collected car Friday, drive Sat and Monday need send for Major repair. Broken (design flaw ?) air intake box, all air into engine is pure unadulterated, unfiltered hot air from engine compartment.
oooh….oooh!! bila ada vcd cetak rompak bising macam bodoh….now inspira la tu…lancau..tell u..change the government la pls…fed of this meleis
lol.. because of copycat cars want to change goverment..
crazy kids.. maybe U drive myvi or even dont have any cars..
r u using genuine windows..
lol
too bad you don’t drive at all
Lol trolling fail. Noob.
Recommendation …!!!!!Proton should reduce the price.
Guys, i know cc already difference btw FORTE1.6 and INSPIRA1.8, but if talk about quality and in general, which one u will choose?
neither….ha ha ha. Just remembered the big Chery Eastar Mpv…..also around 80k i think. Quality….no idea but dam it looks big!
what if u can only choose one of the two??
Forte becos the Koreans have come a long way from the earlier heavy fuel consuming models.
They are smart enough to involve non-Korean input as well into design, management rather than do everything in-house.
Anything from china is not edible, hahahha. I drive forte its worth for the money, but no extra gifts given. Try looking at 207 bro
nowdays almost all electric product produce in china even big company such nokia
forte if they offer 5 speed like in US n other countries…
from the news i heard it will available new years with 5 speed..just wait
forte if you want safety features
inspira with lesser but it’s handling is really kick@ss!
I have a budget around 90-100k. Looking for a car for a family of 4. I have to accept the fact that cars in Malaysia are not cheap ! I am now considering either a City or Inspira. But after reading most of the post here, I start to think twice about Inspira. Any advice ? Maybe another model ?
you should consider peugeot 308 vti at RM99,888. quite a nice car
KIA Forte 82k or the new 207 sedan looks good for the money 73k
Average Income Guy, 100K and 109K is not much different on monthy repayment, go for Civic hybrid instead.
exora hybrid / turbo for long distance journey and balik kampung (not launched yet)
sampan myVi for day-to-day route for now
Bro, don’t hesitate, go and buy the inspira. It’s worth the penny and at least a stage higher than the city. I’ve drove both and what can be said is that the entry level honda city is nothing to be compared with the inspira from all angles, the engine, the tranny, the dimensions and the most outstanding part is the compose handling and ride of the inspira would definitely outshine the city anytime. The city is even no better than my previous satria gti. I drive a honda city myself, and at the premium price of +-90k, i would dare to say that the driving is never premium. A proton might sound inferior to most of ‘colonized minded’ us but somehow it is superior when it comes to driving. At the price tag the inspira is the clear winner.
Family of 4 with that kind of budget, no need consider P1 or P2.
The Vios & City not top sellers without reason.
Be happy.
Inspira is not 100% same as Lancer. It is supposed to be a class bigger but size does not equate to enjoyment.
Too early to say whether Inspira got any major flaws becos of Vendor Prog.
My sales consultant called and said that Affin is offering 3.2%pa for 7 years financing instead of the listed 3.35%. Have any of you guys got better offer?
Please share.
TQ
it is sad in this country where buyers takes & years car loan. By the end of instalment, you paid twice yr car price. Car price in this country does not make affordable to people at all. if u need to take & yrs car loan, might as well go for lower budget car….are u so proud with rebadge car
finger you. not for a second had i asked for and/or solicited any sympathy from you! whatever i choose to buy is my own choice d’weed
sore behind!
Poor guy ! 7 years for car loan … Fun for a day…Foooo for 7 years.
better get Proton Saga Facelift. nice and low-priced
Hi,
Its not that we must choose proton. Look at the bright site, now we have a lots of competion in this price range. Its us as consumer to make wise decision. CITY, VIOS, Chevy CRuze, KIA Forte, Hyudai Avante or Whatever they want call it. My personal fov is 207 sedan.
PROTON MALAYSIA=PENCIPLAK!!!!
what a disgrace! there’s no individuality when it comes to any malaysian car brands. that’s why i hate cars made in malaysia. BUY FOREIGN!!!
buy foreign to indirectly fund proton?
Insipira handling the best…my fren test drive the car and it can takes a almost sharp corner at 160km/h with confidence…Proton handling ( LOtus tech) really works…i dun see any reason why potential buyers should think twice to book this car…
And for those who already booked the car, congrtaz…really worth it….!!!
it’s very fun to drive, nuff said
for 160km/hr on rebadge car, ambulance waiting for you and your family will miss you soon.
another basher who never drive a proton, lol
..apakah yang perlu bangga kalau pakai Proton. MyVi lagi stabil..
It is good to know that if you can afford non Proton car as all my friends ae saying that” kalau financially boleh, next car I tukar Japanese car ”
Nothing to be proud of owing a copycat vehicle.
then let your friends buying overpriced yet got sampan handling jap cars, good luck
Myvi lagi stabil ko kata? Stabil angguk ko.
“for 160km/hr on rebadge car, ambulance waiting for you and your family will miss you soon.”
read this sentence properly.. a rebadge = car is still the same as before = the need for ambulance? BASHER FAIL…
buat malu basher lain je.. lmao
Rebadge with Proton made quality and Proton services and perhaps Proton made power windows and you assume it is the same as original Mitsu. I am so doubful on your education standard !! Malu sangat!
You should be more doubtful of your own education standard.
LOL do POWER WINDOWS effect your driving? *facepalm* Power windows not working automatically makes you spin out of control and crash into a tree or something? Tau la kereta ko power windows ada ABS jugak.. LOL
ops.. power window supplier for Proton also supplied to Honda and Perodua. i’ve done my research. Have you done yours?
My previous Perdana shake like sampan above 120km/hr. With so called Lotus tuning, is it really that great..? Jokers on the road! May be after the jokers changed the logo to Mitsubishi Evo, they think it get all required performance from Evo.
old perdana where got lotus rnh
Ya lo…where got lotus tuning in Perdana…..If dunno dont simply say…
Perdana is lousy because it’s ‘PROTON HANDLING”
I kinda like the perdana… might not be the most fuel efficient… but id eos giv some feel of class… well, coz i cant afford the higher class now ba… itu next time la i drive.. now can only buy 130k below…
for all the bashers… test drive this car and give ur comment…dun just look at the car and give ur ASSumption…
All… test drive first, then you know how and be fair to all readers here. I like the sport mode, really impressive when accelerating and the latest handling, but the front grille make it looks like Lancer’s sister and 1.8 interior doesn’t look good, prefer all features on Premium version, but SA said need ~4 month to deliver, 1.8 model 1-1.5 month. Now dont know Inspira or City and definitely not Dugong or Forte.
just back frm proton sr. veri cheapo interior. even my grandmother waja look luxurios.
plenty of cheap material. I think after 6 months, I think all funny sound will come out from dash board…
With this new model, even most people say copycat, i believe proton achievement is getting better and i also believe, proton will be among the best car maker in future. And still, proton need our negative n positive comment to move forward. Anyway, I’m proud to be Malaysian. for those who have negative feedback and bad intention to condemning local products continuously, there is a few hundred country in the world, please select one to change your citizenship, then you’ll know the meaning “hujan emas di negeri orang, hujan batu di negeri sendiri,,,” haha
What is the achievement if the car is not designed by Proton ? Adakah rebadge and copy satu achievement yang dibanggakan ?
please read more, don’t just bash please
better buy proton car rather than sampan handling japs cars
may be you never drive or cannot afford Japanese car. Go for test drive(foc) before you bash.
see my comment on my aircon tick tick tick, steering wheel click click click and extra turbo feature in engine bay (broken air filter box) I supported Proton all the way, now am stuck with my (not so inspiring) inspira.
have you tested lotus ride and handling proton cars?
Proton already said it in their brochures…it’s Proton handling…maybe their engineers worked once upon a time with Lotus guys…that is all…does that mean if their top engineers worked before with Ferrari, then the car is Ferrari tuned?…even Proton don’t use Lotus’ name officially…only the salesmen do…and Inspria fans…
The Inspira is tuned for comfort…not for sporty handling…so compare it to the EX or Sylphy…
So far the best features of the Inspira mentioned by those owners are already existing in the Lancer GT or EX….for example the engine performance and stability…only a very few mentioned they loved the Proton grill or tyres…which is the major Proton contribution or ‘innovation’…some ppl complained about the finishing which is wholly Proton too…
so if you wanna be proud of Proton…at least know which parts are Proton lah…
Test drive the car and speak pls!!!! Those who drive the car gave positive feedback…Pictures wont signify anything…
Test drive car…..is it the same as the one being delivered.
I remembered the Exora test driven by journalist was much better than the delivered product?
This car is a product of 25 years government protection? This car is a product of billions of foreign investment sacrificed? This car is a product of our nation sacrifice driving expensive cars? Malaysia Boleh !!!
c’mon la…we have to admit we’re not that good yet..bet eventually..gradually.. well, one day we will be there..we hope.. :P
ya…wait for another 25 years.
Proton Inspira buyers should ask for full refund.
Collected car Friday, drive Sat and Monday need send for Major repair. Broken (design flaw ?) air intake box, all air into engine is pure unadulterated, unfiltered hot air from engine compartment.
Dont remember the turbo feature….
Other flaws, click click click from steering wheel
Tick Tick Tick from aircon. luckily its only a big piece of paper inside the aircon vent. how do I get it out ?
only 170km now.
This is insane. Shall make a big complaint to the HQ.Anyway, from my previous experience, they do nothing !
is it ur variant 1.8 AT? what happen to the air intake? this is ridiculuos and worrying
Bro sure or not ?!
I went to see the Inspira just now.
Attraction:
1. Cheap and Bigger (Compared to City)
2. 2.0 Engine
3. Lots of goodies (rain sensor/light sensor ect)
Worries
1. Door closing sound not so solid, notice rubber at the door edge not fixed neatly
2. The interior plastic material not so ok (It was a 1.8 auto on display)
3. 50 000 km warranty only. (why not 100 000km?)
4. Fuel consumption ??
5. Proton Quality issue ??
I am not interested to do any modification. Just need a reliable work hourse for heavy daily usage. So Honda City or Inspira ?
Obviously…..Honda City.
Inspira good to show off the bigger size only. Anyway petrol price going up again…not good idea to have bigger engine.
50k km warranty very impt, engine n gearbox not really belong to P1 n they know we will overload for balik kg.
dont go for honda. i’ve just sold my gf’s City. even worse than proton.
My Accord also sold now.
“Dont remember the turbo feature….”
Turbo?? What turbo?
it’s still 100% Mitsubishi. Blame them.
With Persona, Exora and Saga I think Proton has done a good job!
Syabas to the CEO;
Inspira is necessary for now – it’s a business strategy or business necessity; pengkritik yang tak tentu arah tu jom kita gi belajar business strategy dulu jom.
agree with Exora, but not persona and saga based on driving experince..
Better drive real Lancer but not this!FAKE + CHEAP = garbage!
you drive aston martin or bentley?
he probably drove an old kancil..
Copy other people new technology and manipulated it = SMART.
Copy other people old technology and duplicate it = MALUKAN SAHAJA.
nah.. upgrade better than manipulate = intelligent
As i said it before,if we cant afford the original Levis jeans,then go for the sungai golik version,it still have the red tab label,but be prepaired to have calamine cream for your butt.gatal meh!!! same like this clone,it will rattles after 10.000 kms on the road,get real,get the real thing,should be ashame if cuaght driving one hua hua hua!!!! 1malaysia copy jepun punya la!!!
mivec 4b10 + lotus handling!!
I drive a Suzuki Swift!at least it’s a real Japanese product!at least they r using their own performance and design :) btw Audi R8 is my dream car!
nah… even Austin martin, Audy and many more using lotus ride and handling[Lotus engineering]..
maybe Suzuki using Toyota quality control.. any1 knows Toyota no1 japan automobile industry
Might gonna cancel my booking, 2 of my friends who collected their inspira’s had the same broken air intake issues and cracking sound from the steering. The 1.8 cushions seats are too soft, 3 people at the back and you can feel the metal bottom of it. NVH not as good as the test drive units especially after 120km/h.
Mustahil Lancer 2.0 yng paling murah boleh dpt dgn harga 70,000.kurng2 harga die mesti lebih 90,000
now petrol is rm1.90 a litre, lets see just how many of these rebadges proton actually sells.
I am wondering if there anywhere can get a cheaper rebadge petrol for the rebadge car
Petrol price increase got anything to do with rebadge car?
Everyone will affect from this la brother.
So happened the rebadge car is not 1.5 or 1.6 lit. so more sensitive to fuel hikes.
Petronas affected positively.
Small car sales also better.
kita perlu berbangga dengan jurutera protong yg bertungkus lumus, syabas dan malaysia buleh!
Very concern about the car quality after reading this blog, just booked a 2.0P last saturday…..:(
no hope on proton services i addition to their QA standard
just make sure u hav enough annual leaves…..n make sure got spare car….ur gonna need these 2 things very very soon
I still used my beloved proton saga.I already used over 19 years. No major problem…so if have money I ‘ll buy proton… Beli barang Malaysia. Show respect to our country , Right?
ha ha ha……last time quality much better than nowadays. 100% mitsubishi.
To make more profit, need to lower standards.
Must also learn to love your own pocket.
Proton cars are ok if you are not expecting too much. Experimenting with new stuff like campro engine, etc…..headache.
How’s the quality of this new Inspira ? How reliable its CVT gearbox is ?
Does anyone know the Euro NCAP rating for Inspira, if there is one. I am thinking of buying a safe car for the family and are zeroing in Mazda 2, Fiesta or Inspira. They are within the price range I have in mind
Does anyone know the safety rating for Inspira? LOoking for a safe car for the family> mazda 2, fiesta or inspira?
Mazda 2 becos fully imported! cbu
cbu thailand, what’s so special about that.. inspira is miles better
Model Inspira tu ok le, cantik. Kalau kita tiru, tiru dari yang cantik tak pa le. Macam baju juga, kau orang beli yang dah siap dah daripada ciptaan orang lain, bukan kau orang yang cipta sendiri. Kenapa tak cipta baju sendiri? Tentu tak cantik. Macam tu juga kereta Proton Inspira …… memang cantik.
Lancer pun cantik, ha ha ha.
Beza memang kecil shj, harga kereta di Malaysia tinggi pasal P1.
Just now i saw a Proton modified Lancer…..Cannot believe these people really doing it….CHEAP !
Ape nak takut , dah booking , is your luck , you buy other car makers also kong what , i believe some comments come from people who cannot buy the car , then ding-dong all the things, hey ..it like malaysia winning the aff cup , before this you get the cheeky smile wearing malaysia jersey…
Buy car must be careful unless ada banyak duit tambahan,
People who comment not necessary consider or even buying a car, that is why it is called a forum. Comment mereka pun kadang-kala tepat juga. Terpulang pada pandangan masing-2.
Buy car must be careful unless ada banyak duit tambahan,
People who comment not necessary consider or even buying a car, that is why it is called a forum. Comment mereka pun kadang-kala tepat juga. Terpulang pada pandangan masing-2.
thank you proton
For me, I think Proton should be able to do better. Since they have been in the business for a relatively long time. Ok, kalau nak tiru from Mitsu pon ok la. But I just wonder why the price is relatively high, for a Malaysian-made car. Some people say that besi mahal, parts sana sini mahal. But from what I know, Honda City for instance is selling @ RM90k++ kan? This means that the actual price is 1/3 of that = RM30K [this is what I’m told lah, plz correct me if I’m wrong. This relates to the 300% tax thinggy]. So, maybe Proton should be selling @ a lower price. Then mcm best la sikit nak beli barang buatan Malaysia.
Although not in the same class (i think), if you compare the interior of INspira n also Forte from Kia, it’s like almost the same (some argue Forte better and nicer… lantak la). But Forte can see @ RM80k++.
Anywayz, plz correct me if I’m wrong anywhere la. This is from my limited understanding. I really2 think that after so long, our car prices should go down (Local car proton n perodua I mean).
I was fortunate enuff to be in Australia for a couple of years. I saw Focus there was selling @ 15K duit dia orang. Whereas Proton Waja was around 25k? Or was it 35k? Mcm mana buleh jadik lagi mahal dari Focus (altho Focus hatchback))……
Car Price = (Cost of the Car + gov tax + profit + infra cost) / (quantity of total car let say for 5 years).
To reduce the car price you can play with the equation ie.
1. Reduce cost of the car
2. Reduce gov tax
3. Reduce profit
4. Increase quantity of total car.
Honday city 30k??? LOL. Check the Honda website lar…tax is about RM30k…the car is RM 50K+….still more expensive than a Saga.
Forte 80K is 1.6cc vs 1.8cc Inspira at 75k/85k (manual/CVVT). I can safely said 1.8 Inspira pawnz 1.6cc forte any time, coz i have test driven both.
Saya masih ingat, Dr launching proton pada tahun 1985 dan Hundai korea pun launch pada tahun yang sama. Tengok keta orang, sudah sampai world standard.
Apa dah jadi pada keta kita, itu pun pasal ceo baru, barulah nampak Saga baru.
Sedih bila baca comment dari ah chong dan yg serupa dgnnya.
Pergilah membaca sikit. Kereta Hyundai yg pertama bermula tahun 1967, mereka joint venture dgn Ford.
Bukannya bermula 1985. Masa tu mereka sudah mengekspot keseluruh dunia.
atau sila rujuk:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Motor_Company
Saya setuju. Pengurusan Proton yg lama sgt mendukacitakan. Firasat saya, bila nk buat satu satu benda, semua buaya nk dpt bahagian @ komisen.. bila dh begitu, brg murah pun bleh jadi mahal. Jgn la mcm ni, elok kita berkorban sikit, sebab ni kan produk kita sendiri. Klau proton dh establish lebih 50 tahun, korang nk bergado ke bertumbuk ke, sukati korang la. Ni tak, baru nk mencipta nama, tiba-tiba bnyak org jadi buaya. ntah hape hape. Graf menunjukkan, proton mesti berubah. tak boleh tidak.
Hyundai world standard yah…tengok i10 ini –
http://www.consumercomplaints.in/complaints/problem-with-eps-c181800.html
Tons of problems. Standard apa???
All cars have problems. If you think Toyota/Honda no problems?? Just go google lar…LEXUS (Toyota Premium brand), even killed people in their cars and Toyota forced to make worldwide recall. At least, i haven’t heard of Proton cars accelerate till cannot stop and crash the car.
Bottom line: All cars have problems. As long no major problem, then it is a good car!
ccb… korean car ie forte $ r par with inspira…
proton = gov
another proud project of 1 malaysia by gov…
project of $ sucking ”1 malaysian”!!!
paul, when will you reviewing inspira 1.8cvt??
just need opinion whether to buy Inspira or Forte….
tentulah forte
Ada banyak pilihan selain dari Insi atau Forte.
For lower price can even go for Avante X20.
A bit disappointed that the Insi was not built to above ave spec.
Even the Ford looks insteresting.
Saw a rebadge Inspira with Mitsubshi logo on the road, what a shame.
i support the ‘belilah barangan malaysia’ by NOT ‘laughing’ at the inspira owners when they pass by.
And don’t laugh at Perodua owners too.
APA2 Pon…lihat ini :
ENTRY LIST: 2011 DUNLOP MSA BRITISH TOURING CAR CHAMPIONSHIP
No. Driver (NAT) Team/Car
1. Jason Plato (GBR) Silverline Chevrolet/Chevrolet Cruze
2. Matt Neal (GBR) Honda Racing Team/Honda Civic
5. Tom Chilton (GBR) Team Aon/’Global’ Ford Focus
7. Mat Jackson (GBR) Airwaves Racing/Ford Focus
8. Robert Collard (GBR) WSR/BMW 320si
11. Frank Wrathall (GBR) Dynojet/Toyota Avensis
12. David Pinkney (GBR) Rob Austin Racing/Audi A4
13. TBA Rob Austin Racing/Audi A4
14. James Nash (GBR) 888 Racing with Collins Contractors/Vauxhall Vectra
17. Dave Newsham (GBR) Geoff Steel Racing/BMW 320si
18. Nick Foster (GBR) WSR/BMW 320si
20. Alex MacDowall (GBR) Silverline Chevrolet/Chevrolet Cruze
22. Tom Boardman (GBR) Special Tuning Racing/SEAT Leon
28. John George (GBR) GoMobileUK.com with tech-Speed/Chevrolet Cruze
29. Paul O’Neill (GBR) GoMobileUK.com with tech-Speed/Chevrolet Cruze
34. Tony Gilham (GBR) 888 Racing with Collins Contractors/Vauxhall Vectra
42. Daniel Welch (GBR) Welch Automotive/Proton Gen-2**
43. Lea Wood (GBR) Central Group Racing/Honda Integra*
44. Andy Neate (GBR) Team Aon/’Global’ Ford Focus
50. Tony Hughes (GBR) Speedworks Motorsport/Toyota Avensis
52. Gordon Shedden (GBR) Honda Racing Team/Honda Civic
55. Jeff Smith (GBR) Pirtek Racing/Vauxhall Vectra
66. Liam Griffin (GBR) Airwaves Racing/Ford Focus
77. Andrew Jordan (GBR) Pirtek Racing/Vauxhall Vectra
78. Chris James (GBR) Team ES Racing.com/Chevrolet Lacetti
99. Tom Onslow Cole (GBR) TBA
TBA. TBA Team Aon/’Global’ Ford Focus
Proton Overpriced.. Ni semua pasal dasar Protectionism.. To hell with Proton.. Menyusahkan majority Malaysian dasar ni.. Nak belai biawak hidup sekor ni rege kereta 1Malaysia overpriced.. Majority 1Malaysia stress dek beban hutang.. Dah 25 tahun pun bacul lg.. Bapok ke apa Proton ni..
ko kena sampuk ke apa bai? kalau tak mampu jgn meroyan, Vios J pun aku rasa ko tak mampu nak beli…puiii
Some of you can complain all you want. Blah Proton overpriced blah. So? What can you do about it? NOTHING.
For 90k, there isn’t a better value 2.0 car on the market. Forte 2.0 come close at 98k, but NAZA is even worst than Proton when it comes to service!
I’ve test drive Forte 1.6, Toyota Dugong (aka VIOS) and Honda City and Inspira 1.8 and 2.0. For around 75k-85k, the Forte 1.6 is underpower compared to Inspira 1.8. NVH Inspira is also better. Honda City and Dugong no need to say…what a joke…90k for something that is just a bit better than a Myvi 1.3!!! Wanted to test drive the 2.0, but the NAZA SC very arrogant keep saying no test drive unit. Fine. You don’t let me test, i’ll just buy elsewhere!
Inspira blows all those cars away in terms of power, comfort and NVH. In the end, i bought an Inspira 2.0. I love it. And i have traded in my sampan Myvi for it. (Good riddance!!!).
And my other car is a Savvy Manual…4 years….only minor problems, still serve very well and handles like a Go-Kart!
So losers…bash and complain all you like….while i enjoy my new ride…while you pay 90k to ride in cheap budget made-in-thailand “japanese” cars like City and VIOS….envying my C-Segment ride with MIVEC engine and Nissan CVT gearbox…..
:D
I have just test driven the Inspira.I have never bought a Proton since 6 years ago on which I last owned a Perdana V6 in 2005. My current car is a Honda Accord 2.4,Iswara and Toyota Innova.
I have booked a Hyundai Sonata 2.4 2 days ago after test driving one and the looks itself sold the car. But I have second thoughts after test driving the Inspira.
The car feels lively and fast.Gear changes are smooth and of course it can’t beat the Sonata on looks but it sure beats it hands down on performance,gear changes and agility. Not the same class as the Accord 2.4 but I have had enough with Honda Malaysia Seremban branch attitude regarding complains about the car when sent for servicing.I don’t want to elaborate the story here.And Yes,I am trading in the Accord and Iswara for the Inspira.
The Inspira 2.0P version to me is a great car with a very attractive price tag.RM91,999 with almost everything that you want in a premium version car.Engines and gearbox are a beauty for a sub RM100,000 car.With auto rain sensors,auto headlights, GPS and more, definitely it’s a steal.
I don’t care of all the comments out there stating that Proton is just manipulating the rakyat giving a Mitsubishi car and rebadge it,as long as it drives brilliantly,have no CAMPRO engines and built quality is good,I would buy it.If you could afford one,work harder and buy a minimum of a Volkswagen GTI 2.0 or better cars like BMW and more out there,then you will know the difference of a great continental car and Japanese cars.2 different classes.European cars to me always win hands down.
To put in a nutshell,Inspira is a great car to drive,and yes I love the price tag, and Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0 used to have a heftier price tag.
Thank you Proton for making the Lancer 2.0 affordable and pricing it less than RM100,000.
I BOUGHT INSPIRA 1.8 LAST YEAR. I TRADED IN MY HONDA CITY WHICH IS WAS DRIVING FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS.
WHEN I TOLD MY COLLEAGUES THAT I WOULD BE TAKING AN INSPIRA, THEY ALL STARTED TO SAY ALL THE NASTY THINGS ABOUT INSPIRA, BUT MIND YOU THAT NONE OF THEM REALLY HAD DRIVEN OR OWNED AN INSPIRA BEFORE IN THEIR WHOLE LIFE.
I THANK MY GOD FOR NOT TAKING THESE FOOLS ADVICES AND DID NOT CHANGE MY MIND. IT IS MY HARD EARNED MONEY AND I SHOULD BE THE ONE WHO DECIDES ON WHAT CAR TO BUY OR WHATEVER TO DO WITH MY MONEY, AND NOT ALL THOSE HYPOCRITS OUT THERE WHO IS ONLY GOOD AT COMMENTING AND DON’T WORTH A PENNY.
I AM VERY SATISFIED WITH MY INSPIRA AND WILL BE GETTING ANOTHER INSPIRA FOR MY WIFE TOO. WE ARE TRADING IN THE TOYOTA VIOS THAT MY WIFE IS HAVING CURRENTLY.
Smart move bro….us Smart Guys Gets it(tm)….hehe….some of my wife colleague also like that, why buy Proton blah…why not buy City/Dugong blah….then my wife told them it’s 2.0cc car…then all diam-diam liao…hahaha!
I am not sure Inspira is really good or not, but looking at the number of Comments, it’s surely a Hot Car :)
There will be a promotion for Proton Inspira this hari raya. For those who admire this inspira can grab the opportunity.
I have written about Proton Inspira’s modified or reduced boot space in CBT and no comment has been received from PROTON at all. The Lancer has a “space-saver spare wheel” whereas the Inspira has a “normal size spare wheel”. The original spare wheel well in the Inspira is actually meant for a “space-saver spare wheel”. However, from inspecting the Inspira’s boot, I found that PROTON has stuffed in foam material on the sides of the wheel well/housing to raise up the well/housing capacity to accommodate the “normal size spare wheel”, thus reducing the boot capacity by at least 30%. I hope PROTON can rectify this simple matter by providing the”space-saver spare wheel” as Inspira’s boot is meant to be. Response from PROTON greatly appreciated. When this is done, I would consider buying the Inspira and not as at now with its reduced boot size.
I just went to test drive the Inspira today in Mutiara Damansara, they let me drove a 2.0L version. I must say I’m quite impressed and happy with the ride comfort, handling, performance and also fuel economy. I reset the screen before I drove and got around 13km/L, some highway and slow traffic driving. I used the sport mode a lot to have a feel of how it performs and how fast the gear changes, the simulated 6-speed mode change gears relatively fast, you could change gears by pushing the gear knob or the paddle shifters. If you want to save fuel just drive with D for a relaxed drive without any gear changes. Considering the price you get the Mitsubishi MIVEC engine + Nissan CVT transmission. I say it’s the only car from Proton that’s worth the money at the moment.
The Lancer sportback 2009 (should be same as sedan version) obtained 5 stars in the Euro NCAP crash test:
http://www.euroncap.com/results/mitsubishi/lancer/2009/348.aspx
So please test drive the car first before any comments, you might have a different one.
i was a basher 1 year ago, now i decided to get this car.
its 42k cheaper than civic 2.0, 40k cheaper than altis 2.0, 30k cheaper than lancer gt/ex.
22k cheaper than slyphy.
i’m willing to keep my money, and use the proton badge, i’m a confident man, i do not need to elevate my status with a car, unless u’re saying bmw or merc. i rather keep the money for my kids education fund.
thanks proton( or thanks to our gomen for making car expensive :P )
will get around jan 2012.
i got my car at the end of nov, its
RM46k cheaper than civic.
i can get another myvi for my wife.
inspira 2.0 + myvi 1.3 = 2.0 civic.
who is the smarter guy?
why the price for proton inspira are more expensive than mitsubishi lancer in langkawi???????
All of yours comment will not affect to the buyer mind set, at the end of the day, those who are desire to Mitsu will go for Lancer and those who are intelligent enough to save their $$ will go for inspira. Like me, im on my way to keep the down payment for getting a new mitsuSB, ppl asking me how if proton come out with new inspira sb after i bought lancer sb? i told them, just let it be, coz all ppl in m’sia will know how much is the price difference between proton and inspira.
I got my car inspira 2.0 just now!! wow, what can i say, the performance is better than my old car honda crv!!
imagine a REAL LANCER parked beside inspira.. that will be epic.. !!! hahahaha… Shame on you proton !!!
Smart Guy get it ? So Who get Mitsubishi Lancer ? Smarter Guy ?
Proton will always be pride of the nation if you want to say logo change or copy it’s okay this is tribute to Lancer. The benchmark or Improvement of proton can be seen in Preve.some people will never learn to appreciate their own product but champion other nations product