Clearer Proton BLM Side Profile Spyshots
These clear photos were shot by KM_Survivor of the Lensa Malaysia forums, a Malaysian photography forum, which explains why the photos are of such good quality! It shows the side profile of the new Proton BLM very clearly, so we can have a rough idea of headroom and interior space as well as the general proportions of the car.
Just a recap for those who are not in the loop - the Proton BLM is supposed to be Proton’s base line model, a replacement for the aging Proton Saga/Proton Iswara model. It is said to be based on a modified Proton Savvy platform.
Two more photos after the jump.
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June 28, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
the back looks very flat leh?
June 28, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
i think dat the number plate is positioned at the boot..not the bumper..c
June 28, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
owh! forgot to c the 1st pic…..
the frotn looks good!
have slight cues from the neo…..headroom quite good also.
June 28, 2007 @ 3:39 pm
It didn’t look like savvy at all although it use the same platform.
June 28, 2007 @ 3:44 pm
FRONT LIKE GENT 2
REAR LIKE WAJA (UPPER) + GEN 2 (LOWER)
NOT VERY NICE….
June 28, 2007 @ 3:46 pm
The back door looks like Savvy a bit. But the back so flat and no curve at all! What’s wrong with their designers??
June 28, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
it’s still has it’s “mask” on. Wait till it’s revealed properly la, before judging the looks.
I’m more concerned by the quality. Proton has yet to launch a glitch-free car.
June 28, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
its disguised. the curve might be hidden.
June 28, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
Agreed..no use to judge now how the desgn looks..50% with mask la…
June 28, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
BLM?
June 28, 2007 @ 3:58 pm
Isn’t that the Gen2 Sedan ?
June 28, 2007 @ 3:59 pm
BASE LINE MODEL…..
June 28, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
rear boot lid actually been heavily stuffed up,
the actual is not that flat and thick,
the first proton without lower bumper cut-out for exhaust tip
June 28, 2007 @ 4:01 pm
of course not! u see the lines clearly……and compare woith the gen2 sedan post…
June 28, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
ah….just like the savvy with a boot as mentioned earlier. funny little car.
June 28, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
look more like neo sedan then savvy….
June 28, 2007 @ 4:08 pm
The boot is covered with something obviously because the back is so misaligned.
The number plate is actually on the boot lid. They taped it on the bumper. Rear door windows are pretty big.
But take a look at the front fender. The bottom does not end straight, it eats into the runningboard panel, Whats that about?
Anyway does look good, unless they had covered up all the ugly parts.
I really like the rims.
June 28, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
The rear from far reminds me of Ford focus sedan.
June 28, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
dude, i think the rims are normal black steel rims.
June 28, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
yeah…gud proton…
pray for good price meh…
n good quality also.
last new model was neo….the quality quite good,hopefully this one going to the same line
June 28, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
ahaha.. bashers… ur nigtmare is here…. c’mon la.. siang malam u all bashing je keje apa dapat… why not giv comment on wat it shud like.. not jus “not nice” la.. xcantik la”.. its under testing.. so proton still hav chance to make it more bold and adoreable…
June 28, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
paul.. its still testing… for sure use steel rim… they already made it. the rim … u shud tell proton how to make it more nicer.. bcos maybe ur voice more listened bcos u r so famous.. everyone knows u
June 28, 2007 @ 4:22 pm
The front looks alright but i reserve my opinion on the back since it is so heavily taped. But there is only that much one can hide and from the looks of it, it needs more work…….and a VW badge. muaha ha ha ha !
June 28, 2007 @ 4:24 pm
yeah..agree with u mr.proton….
come on bebeh….if making car like making nasik lemak/cekodok..
then i will be the basher for free…heheh…
June 28, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
Looks uninspiring~~ sigh
June 28, 2007 @ 4:26 pm
the back is interesting indeed. I don’t think it is bad. Hope the design lasts for a long time.
June 28, 2007 @ 4:28 pm
ok..mr proton..
hopefully the rim will be 6/7 spoc….heheh
with glovebox….
mp3 player + usb…
abs + ebd + air bag for front…
then…viva should bungkus…heheh…
but first …price la…tolong la…kalo bley nk bli keta pakai smpai mati…heheh….9 years bru utang abis…huhuh….kesian kita
June 28, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
ok~
how about the body strength this time? got any clue?
roll steel may be the same. what does “platform” really based on?
June 28, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
fargmee.. if it uses the savvy platform for sure the body strenth tpugh like savvy…
motoaku…
u rite… price this car cheaper than pricey viva with all the nice features.. viva can be blahla……..
June 28, 2007 @ 4:40 pm
agreed that mr.proton..
make me wanna vomit hearing those bashing…
June 28, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
proton.com said,
June 28, 2007 @ 3:39 pm
It didn’t look like savvy at all although it use the same platform
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–> volvo S40 dont look like ford Focus although it uses the same platform.
June 28, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
the design n overall shape looks ok to me… not particularly nice but at least better than the current saga/iswara… A step forward taken by proton… the side doors do resemble the door of savvy especially the front door…
June 28, 2007 @ 5:21 pm
haha, like a matches box for rear, if the wheel arch is bigger must be cool… haha… nice try, but no good
June 28, 2007 @ 5:23 pm
Looks kinda like sedan version of Daihatsu Charade
June 28, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
Looks so cacat…………..
June 28, 2007 @ 5:32 pm
The sawi is priced at rm40k, so this BLM to be priced more than rm40k too??
Then the p2 viva will run rings around it too, like the myvi run rings around the sawi…
June 28, 2007 @ 5:38 pm
wish there was front shots, then our beloved friend can render the front!
June 28, 2007 @ 5:47 pm
Hope it turn out nice..
although is heavily masked and tape.. the only portion i worry is the C frame top curvature.. it look a bit not nicely done aesthetically.(from pic 01)
hope i’m wrong…
and the oil cap…shouldn’t it shape something else to suit the whole car design???
Good Luck Proton.
wish u all d Best
June 28, 2007 @ 5:48 pm
The Gen2 sedan price I heard cheaper than Gen2 HB. If the 1.3HB price is RM46K, the Gen2 Sedan 1.3M should be around RM43. If the Gen2 1.3 Sedan is RM43, then the BLM must be RM40K. I expect the base M version will be around RM35-37K.
June 28, 2007 @ 5:58 pm
Come on, proton. Changes in design alone does not going to help. Must have better engines, gearboxes and suspension. Why Proton didn’t uprade the campro lately?
June 28, 2007 @ 6:06 pm
i think its a savvy sedan .
June 28, 2007 @ 6:09 pm
heheh…mckk….campro already have 2/3 variant….normal,cps,vim, gas direct injection…
only time is against us…heheh,saba beb…tp tula…lelama sgt pon boring jadik nye…heheh,biasala….mentaliti demanding rakyat malaysia….proton speed it up…show us…
define better engine,better gearbox,suspension…
for model gen2 n above,suspension is better i would say….stakat bumper kecik2 tu takyah slowdown pon…..heheh,
gearbox jek lom buat sendrik….
June 28, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
Hmmmm….the front looks slight longer than that of the Savvy..
Gone are the pull up type door lever handle
Gone is the centrally located muffler…
Gone is the front door downward slope…
And I think gone is the Renault engine…replaced by the Campro 1.3 engine..
June 28, 2007 @ 6:41 pm
Ala motoaku, faham2 jelah kereta proton sekarang ni. belum habis warranty lagi ade tanda nak rosak , macam mana tak geram? enjin macam siput, gearbox macan nak tolak batu, suspension macam selipar buruk. sepatutnya proton buat kereta lebih berkualiti. Ada Lotus Cars, suruh buat facelift je . Mana Boleh?
June 28, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
i like the grab handles!
June 28, 2007 @ 7:22 pm
Anyone think the built quality has been improved for this round ?
June 28, 2007 @ 7:24 pm
i must say this proton ala-ala vios.Not bad. thumb up..i like that seat design compare to gen2 bucket seat.buruk! if interior’s quality good and it doesn’t fit in with campro engine, i dont mind to buy this for 40+K or even 50K. i hate campro! i test drive neo 1.6, it’s under power. Should throw that campro to sungai sarawak! Hopefully this time proton do it right
June 28, 2007 @ 7:29 pm
i tink the back bonnet has sting stick to it with the black tape….giving it that odd shape…very clear sting like a piece of plastic moulding on top of the rear bonnet…i tink not to give away too much in terms of how it looks like…also notice that the car sits quite low..thers very little space between the tyres and the fenders…looks like using 13inch tyres ! curious and itching to c the front though
June 28, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
proton design s..t looking cars.
June 28, 2007 @ 8:04 pm
no wonder it looked so small… feels like iswara has a “larger” feel…
June 28, 2007 @ 8:04 pm
Savvy sedan comfirm! What i know is for sure using old campro 1.3L engine with 5-speed manual, and auto 4-speed also in consideration!
June 28, 2007 @ 8:05 pm
mr. proton said,
June 28, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
ahaha.. bashers… ur nigtmare is here…. c’mon la.. siang malam u all bashing je keje apa dapat… why not giv comment on wat it shud like.. not jus “not nice†la.. xcantik laâ€.. its under testing.. so proton still hav chance to make it more bold and adoreable…
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“Lawn mover” on the road - more bold and adoreable! Aiya, ……….
June 28, 2007 @ 8:28 pm
walau! the side profile looks so cheap, like the Dacia Logan! they should blacken the B-pillar instead.
June 28, 2007 @ 8:53 pm
What ever. I’ll just wait until the models out. As long as all the car manufacturers doing well and in this case Proton, so that goverment no need to help and protect them via our money. If not someone out there will continue the same old story.
June 28, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
folks, i guess you would have noticed by now that the back lid is rather unnaturally straight hence it might not be the actual product. Overall, i believe, the BLM is targeted to mass market which is pretty much of Proton’s formation intention that is to form a “People’s Car” car manufacturer (ironically similar to VW back in the 40s).
To many commenters out there, please stick to the topic and be realistic and fair in your comments.
The overall quality of debate has gone down significantly if compared to couple of years ago. The use sms text is great however it should be used within text messaging context. A single noun or a one liner comment could be expanded to enable other readers to better understand your thoughts at that point of time. Let’s make this a constructive forum for everyone’s betterment.
Cheers!
June 28, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
i agree with chery. the B-pillar should be blackened. Notice that the Vios & Volvo S60 have body colored B-pillar which spoiled the side profile look.
the rims & tyres are so small and skinny too. I hope that Proton don’t use those. The wheel arch is also less aggressive than the savvy.
I have a feeling that this car will be no more spacious than the Vios, which is pretty dissapointing.
June 28, 2007 @ 10:20 pm
It looks ugly…
June 28, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
just wait for it to come out..then we will know how the design will actually look like….
June 28, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
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kei9 said,
June 28, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
just wait for it to come out..then we will know how the design will actually look like….
yeah..yeah..true…
June 28, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
sorry to say but i feel the design is disgusting.
hopefully the real production one will be better.
Quality, low cost.. have you place them in this car, Proton?
June 28, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
another sibling for civic and latio sedan. Looks awfull from any angle
June 28, 2007 @ 11:20 pm
not civic…i mean city….sorry
June 28, 2007 @ 11:25 pm
Noticed that every1 with user name having a word “proton” alway mentioned “this basher” and “those basher”???
is it too sensitive when u hear some1 post to say their not like the proton car? or you are one of the proton tauke??? hahaha…
Every1 have their own opinions for the proton car mah… and this blog purposely to share opinion mah..
back to topic, just as The Unicons say: just wait until the models out.. then we judge it..
June 28, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
i think d doors shuld b a little higher, wit smaller windows.
but overall i think its more than a decent design, hope its nice!
retains its savvy quality plz, increase its interior space n add some other nice bits. n dun 4get savvy’s character. 5yrs warranty is welcoming! cant wait 4 r3!
June 28, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
why this time around so little bashers??boringnya!!!
my uncle gave me sum info(he knows sum ppl in proton)so hope its reliable info..if not pls forgive me.
it is a savvy sedan..torsional rigidity is equal to savvy..so ride and handling shud be better..
slighty heavier than savvy..lighter than gen2
interior has been redesign and QUALITY OF MATERIALS has been improved(not really sure bout this..really hoping its true!!!then most bashers boleh diam)
front has been modified to fit campro engines!!gearbox is not amt:-(
they said two engine choices but i dont know what will they fit in!!proton got no 1.5 so anyone have any idea??1.2 and 1.3 its impossible??so???
interior is dark…good news
it is more expensive than savvy but cheaper than myvi..it is directed at myvi..not viva!!
head unit still havent been considered..but most probably wif ipod jack but mp3??dont know yet…but it is targeted for young ppl..so shud be good head unit….
i am so looking forward for it!!!
is there any cps version for campro 1.3????hope there is…
June 29, 2007 @ 12:03 am
I think 2 kind of tramission, manual or auto.. more then 2 kind of engines.. Already got Gen.2, Satria neo & Waja have 1.6L.. Savvy sedan also got? I dont think so.. I think only for 1.3L old campro.. Since it is cheap, budjet car i dont think that expensive renault engine & AMT is in that savvy sedan!
June 29, 2007 @ 1:06 am
Seriously hoping that back end is a mask. If that’s its real boot lid then we will have another Proton with a butt ugly err.. butt. The front end could be its saving grace though.
And Malaysians, let’s pray this one looks good. Because, since it’s BLM, most likely we are going to see lots of them on the streets.
June 29, 2007 @ 1:30 am
It is not the final touch yet. I bet that is not the real rear bonnet. it is definately waja’s bonnet that why we can see 2 place to put no. plate .. and i think the final plate place is at the bottom.
And the from bumper at the picture is using current gen-2 bumpers. that’s why they disguise with using the black tape. it is not the final design yet. I quiet sure about that.
engine? no idea. maybe 1.3 campro.
June 29, 2007 @ 3:25 am
i see many comparing this model to Vios, why? Vios is 80k, BLM about 40k.
June 29, 2007 @ 5:40 am
this BLM and vios are from the same class of car, that’s why people compare them. vios is RM80k because of the ridiculous tax and excise duty, otherwise it would cost about 35-45k.
June 29, 2007 @ 6:52 am
I’d say Vios is closer to Gen.2 than the BLM/Savvy… but then i might be wrong
anyhow, tax be damned, the Vios is priced at 80k, simple as that. Thats why it should not be compared…. it sucks, but yeah, foreign cars are pricier than it should be and we as consumer have to accept that and do a fair comparision instead.
People looking to buy the BLM when it comes out will be buying it becos they cant afford anything that cost 60k and above.. if u can afford a Vios, u wont even be looking at the BLM at all, no?
June 29, 2007 @ 7:26 am
Actually, Proton already have bad reputation. Imagine this, a man who once stole something from his friend and get caught. Maybe after that, he never steal again. If his friend lose something again the next time, who’s gonna be the suspect? Proton have poor quality before. Almost all Malaysian have experience with Proton’s cars. What make thing worst is, foreign make cars are going cheaper and cheaper. People not reluctant to invest more money as long as they are satisfied because cars in Malaysia is overpriced. By the way, I think it’s a good initiative from Proton to come out with mass produced car. It will help them a lot. Just make sure the pricing is right. And please, no continential parts again. Just look at Tiara and Savvy. People are quite ’scared’ to own them.
June 29, 2007 @ 8:15 am
haha it is savvy sedan ??? when it will sell in market ??? any spec for the engine looks cute small body sedan …
June 29, 2007 @ 8:49 am
Still come out with uncompetative model. P1 has a history which always came out with uncompetative model.
1) Tiara
2) Juara
3) Arena
4) Sastria Neo
I think this new model will included in this list.
June 29, 2007 @ 8:55 am
Frankly speaking, I like the design and I really don’t mind of buying one. For me the most important thing is the price. This car price should be lower than RM40K (around RM35K (M)-RM38K (A). If they got HLine version, then it is ok to price is slightly above RM40K.
Anything above that will be hard to sell as I would rather buy a Gen2 Sedan for an extra RM3K-RM4K.
Savvy price must be slashed down to maybe RM32K (M) and RM35K (AMT).
If Proton can do this, I’m pretty sure Perodua will start lose the game really badly. I’m sick watching Perodua’s antics and greed especially after the success of MyVi. The has become so greedy. Just look at how they price the Viva. It is way overpriced.
June 29, 2007 @ 8:57 am
ankly speaking, I like the design and I really don’t mind of buying one. For me the most important thing is the price. This car price should be lower than RM40K (around RM35K (M)-RM38K (A). If they got HLine version, then it is ok to price is slightly above RM40K.
Anything above that will be hard to sell as I would rather buy a Gen2 Sedan for an extra RM3K-RM4K.
Savvy price must be slashed down to maybe RM32K (M) and RM35K (AMT).
If Proton can do this, I’m pretty sure Perodua will start lose the game really badly. I’m sick watching Perodua’s antics and greed especially after the success of MyVi. The has become so greedy. Just look at how they price the Viva. It is way overpriced.
June 29, 2007 @ 8:57 am
Guys, guys, guys (and also any ladies out there)…..hold your horses!!!!
First of all, this car is still in prototype stage( P-0 stage). There is still lot of things need to be done to this car. Secondly the car is heavily camoufludged, so pls dont judge it so quicly. Thirdly, the car uses a savvy elongated platform but the exterior design is totally new. The car comes in 2 variants, 1.3 A.T and M.T. The M.T comes with a new transmission which i can’t reveal ( not Mitsu’s one) and the A.T uses the Mitsu trans. The exterior and interior is well designed with proportionate boot space, ample amount of leg room at the back and good interior built and quality. The car will be using the latest technology of drive-by-wire and added safety features. The most interesting past of all this is, the pricing; it will be priced around the old saga/iswara (around 30K).
Hopefully this info is sufficient for everybody out there. Cheers!!!
p/s: Pls dont judge it by just looking at it, worst to say looking at the camoufludge one. Wait till its launched, then judge it. Btw it is scheduled to be launched end of december or early january 2008. Have a nice day!
June 29, 2007 @ 8:58 am
The car will replace Saga and will be on sale Dec 2007.
Engine will be Campro 1.3 + VIM.
NGV also available for taxi.
June 29, 2007 @ 9:05 am
The boot must be big, since it has option for NGV. Taxi operator will like this.
June 29, 2007 @ 9:15 am
This one doesnt impress me much, probably it’s under heavy ‘masking’. However even with ‘masking’, one can always tell roughly how the design is. Well. this one, doesnt impress me much, so sorry. 1NZFE, I’m with you.
June 29, 2007 @ 9:27 am
I think most of you don’t understand what is the function of the disguise. All this ‘black’ thing is the method on shaping the car using existing platform before transfer it to final mould. Looking at the current state of the BLM this process is yet finished, and need more time to finish the cues. So hope you all understand now.
For sure BLM going to use the Campro 1.3 engine. If not why they start to use Renault engine for Waja 1.8 and Savvy, and buy Clio’s technology to make Savvy and Satria Neo? Renault has already helping Proton sincerely to achieve P1’s goal, not like those culprit Mitsu and Citroen, and most of you out there still wanna contribute to them by buying their goods? Mitsu is the first person argue about Proton intention to establish R&D department, and together with Citroen giving to P1 geat investment loss with Tiara and Juara’s platform. Lucky P1 managed to save the Juara’s paltform and develod this for new Juara Replacement Model.
So just hope this BLM model will be good as Savvy, and P1’s will bring new more model soon.
To 1NZFE, Arena(Jumbuck),Savvy and Satria Neo is fast selling model out of Malaysia especially in UK and OZ.
P.S. : Waiting for Putra Relacement Model hehe :->
June 29, 2007 @ 9:53 am
Like The King said…I believe it released by year end as Govt said b4. I reserved by comments right after I see the final designed stage. At this stage, our eye deceived us as it was masked & they could be bodily change again.
I just hope it turn out simple & with contempary designed since the target market is for affordabale income demographic segment. It will definately would not please everyone especially the Bashers as they only pray for Protons early death & anticipate it turn out bad. Bashers just luv to curse & never pray for recovery. They will cheer if the designed fail as thier mission to kill is met. Issnt it…they are typical Baddies who just wish the sick guy to die.
June 29, 2007 @ 9:54 am
Alifz, just to clarify some things that u have said,…..the black ‘thingy’ that is pasted on the car are not used to shape the car….its a special scotch tape, used to only camoufludge the car. This tape can withstand high temperatures and has a good bond on the body of the car. The ‘boxy’ effect at rear end is done using polybox, sticked together with this scotch tape and then sprayed black. This car’s exterior design has been finalized, only the interior is yet to be finalized. The stage that u were talking about, is the styling stage where clay models are used to refine the design either by hand or milling machine. Hope this info helps u. As i mentioned above, since this car is heavily camoufludged ( lots of boxy effect at rear and front), so pls dont judge it so early. It might suprise all of you once the product is launched. Cheers!!!
p/s: For futher info on this model, pls refer to my previous post. Thx.
June 29, 2007 @ 9:54 am
campro?! alamak.. not this engine plz. if campro hopefully its with VIM or CPS.
June 29, 2007 @ 10:17 am
Well in this case when the car comes out i’d rather get a 2005 Saga or a Gen2 CPS…which i won’t anyway. Still waiting for a used Volvo S60 price to come down he he he
People who buy this ‘elongated Savvy’ are certainly patriotic, and don’t know much about cars (well given the vast choices that we have but stupid enough to go for 9 year Loan)
June 29, 2007 @ 10:24 am
To si-fu,
Lots of information. Internal source?
anyway the 30k pricing seems a little bit hard to achieve. Since all car now except Saga and kancil (do we still have kancil now?) is higher than 30k.
June 29, 2007 @ 10:26 am
1NZFE said,
June 29, 2007 @ 8:49 am
Still come out with uncompetative model. P1 has a history which always came out with uncompetative model.
1) Tiara
2) Juara
3) Arena
4) Sastria Neo
I think this new model will included in this list.
=> Well, too early to say as this model not even on sale yet. Just wait see how this model perform and most important the quality of the end product and pricing. By the way, doesn’t mean these models as you mentioned didn’t sell well in Malaysia so as other countries such as middle east countries etc. Even the Mercedes Benz new R-Class didn’t sale well worldwide since the launched. However, other models sell well. So cheers OK?
June 29, 2007 @ 10:35 am
Does anyone really know why proton can’t sell in thailand and indonesia?
Paul? Do you have any theories?
June 29, 2007 @ 10:37 am
ITS A NEO SEDAN laaaaa………..
June 29, 2007 @ 10:39 am
Mr. proton.com…..hmmm about where i get the info, tak payah citer la….hehehehe. But wats the important ting is, how true and reliable is my info. Wat i can say is, my info is very very very reliable and about the pricing, thats the most latest info that i got. Proton is trying hard to price it around 30K. Intially, it was aimed to be arnd 35-38K, but then since this model is gng to replace the aging saga/iswara, they decided to price it around that. Hope this info helpes. Cheers!!!
June 29, 2007 @ 11:05 am
I know is not relevant..but wiseman SiFu ..any hint on how much the Waja CPS pricing would be ah?? Heard is almost close RM70K?? Sorry guys ..I really donno how to send them personal mails??
June 29, 2007 @ 11:08 am
Can’t everybody see ! the R & D are very low in creative thinking. Another lousy product !
June 29, 2007 @ 11:33 am
Jay said,
June 29, 2007 @ 11:08 am
Can’t everybody see ! the R & D are very low in creative thinking. Another lousy product !
=> please tell us more what actually you want to say. tq
June 29, 2007 @ 11:38 am
Bofere i answer xstan query, with wat basis Jay are u claiming that the R&D is low in creative thinking and the product is lousy??? For Mr. Xstan thx for reading my comment. the Waja CPS pricing is not finalized yet. But most probably it will be priced below 70K. Maybe arnd 65 - 68K. I am only assuming on this….hope this helpes. Cheers!!!
June 29, 2007 @ 11:38 am
hameed koyakuti said,
June 29, 2007 @ 10:37 am
ITS A NEO SEDAN laaaaa………..
=> It’s not neo sedan.
June 29, 2007 @ 11:46 am
Claiming that Proton RnD is low in creative thinking is serious accusations.
June 29, 2007 @ 11:51 am
avanza said,
June 29, 2007 @ 10:35 am
Does anyone really know why proton can’t sell in thailand and indonesia?
Paul? Do you have any theories?
=> Proton not yet enter Thailand market. However, Proton already entered to Indonesia market and expanded it range with Gen.2 and Savvy back in 17 March 2007.
June 29, 2007 @ 11:57 am
Good, better late than never. Proton should be commended. i hope they at last phase out the Saga. It has done enough damage to them. Hopefully it is Priced in the mid 30s or low 40s since it has to fill the void left by the Saga. Too high and they will lose the market the Saga was meant to cater to.
Good luck to them. Looks good.
June 29, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
Neo sales quite good. their market are for young ppl n not like u mr INZFE (poor old produced toyota engine hehe..). G luck proton with this blm as the price really good.
June 29, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
I want the interior looks of this car. hahaha…. hopefully someone out there able to get it….
June 29, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
Please P1,make a response from our opinion..
built somethin that reliable for us to ride..
hopefully then,will make us proud of u…
P1 Boleh..
June 29, 2007 @ 1:37 pm
cant wait…
June 29, 2007 @ 2:30 pm
what do yall thnik it will be called?
June 29, 2007 @ 2:31 pm
I don’t understand why most of the comment condemn the design of the Proton cars. If Proton’s design is too bad why Satria Neo and Gen-2 get a whelming response from the Japanese at last Tokyo Autoshow? Don’t you compare it with Juara and Savvy, because the base model is old fashioned vehichle.
Anyway I love Waja design, very evergreen (also like Merc W124 coupe model). Maybe Proton could develop FR Waja Coupe.
June 29, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
new car, new design….but all will be lost if they use the existing engines available such as 4GxxP, Campro without the PRO, Renault SOHC.
June 29, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
i think that japanese never tested the cars…….so they donno what to think about the cars…..
but they like the design though.
June 29, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
no wonder P1 not make much profit…..bad design…
June 29, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
agree with si-fu. Most people dont know development and production stage in automotive sector. Only know how tu complain n complain. This model still under testing. Black tape just to make people curious. Yup some changes could be happened but the not much from what you see now.. Its powered by CAMPRO. I’m using neo and know how good drive-by-wire tech. So just wait for this car release.
June 29, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
Bad Design? Isn’t it too early to judge?
I reserve my thought. Without the camourflage, it will look totally different.
June 29, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
Really hope P1 can price it below RM 35K. For sure it will eat the overpriced Myvi & Viva for good.
June 29, 2007 @ 3:58 pm
what can i say…
to be frank most malaysians are bashers. who types without knowledge of the subject.
That is a prototype mule. it is heavily taped to disguise its real shape. underneath the tape they usually put plastic corrugated sheets to hide the curves of the body. you can see it on the boot and front fenders (to hide the front headlamp shape).
How can you judge the shape by seeing this taped-up mule?
PS. anyone caught glimpse of a more heavily taped car running currently around malaysia?
June 29, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
wahhhhhhhh… everytime proton car goes in this blog…. sure gaduh punya…. kekekekeee
June 29, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
The front end has a slightly longer Neo look. This may be to clear the Campro engine which had clearance issues when installed in the Savvy. The roof line is definately from the Savvy. With the VIM by Bosch, the Campro should be an excellent all round engine.
Since this is a sedan, when priced in the 30K range, it would give some serious competition to the Perodua cars. I hope it goes this way. Pricing it above the 35K mark would be a bad idea. Some people might even be silly enough to buy a Viva over the BLM even though they are in different maket segments.
Perodua’s strength is that they managed to have so many trim levels for Myvi (and Viva although overpriced), that they were able to cater to many people with different budgets. Proton should do this to with a bare bones car to a high trim level car between 33,999 to 43,999 (Saga was sold at an all time low of RM28K I think). Since the cost of developing the Campro is probably amortized (hopefully!!!), they can keep the cost lower than the Renault engined Savvy.
They should copy Perodua’s business model and come out with both guns loaded. Don’t try to reinvent the wheel, if Perodua made it work with the Malaysian public, then Proton should copy that.
June 29, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
mr. proton said,
“wat i want giv some morale suport for them to ensure less complaint and criticsm when this car unveil.”
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If this statement honestly come out from heart, this time I agree and salute you for what you stand. But I still do not respect what P1 do to it consumers for more than 10 years even for issue like “open door pay tol”! That why P1 will specifically lost one more P1 loyal “Joe Ooi” consumer once I decided to change to Hilux when get new vehicle in future!
Moral support? Rakyat give almost everything from tax payer monies to NAP yet get low quality cars from P1 lol, but they still tidur!
June 29, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
hopes P1 better be good this time or else….
June 29, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
wahlaueh…
Look at what si-fu said the BLM seen to be quite promising if really keep at low price & comfort ride… please keep the quality as top priority in order to gain people confident…
please design to have enough head room… not like Neo (at front), GEN2 (at back)
June 29, 2007 @ 5:32 pm
For me, design is already ok if not excellent. The main thing is the pricing. If the price is RM30K as what has been said by our insider here, it is a very good news to the public. I’m also very sure Perodua will suffer becoz they’ve become too greedy since the success of MyVi by pricing the Viva at the ridiculously high price. I won’t surprise if Proton will eventually beat Perodua by 1Q 2008.
To Sifu, I guess you’re working with Proton. Pls tell your R&D engineers not to mess up again with all the mistakes happened in your Gen2. Pls make sure your interior quality at least at par with Myvi. Don’t ever do silly mistakes like no glove box, PW switches at the middle (it should be at the door!), seat design and fabric quality etc. etc. I owned a Gen2 since 2004 and I can list down to you 101 mistakes Proton engineers did to the Gen2. Sometimes the mistakes was soo obvious until I thought the Proton R&D people are working with no brains. Maybe Tg Mahaleel does not pay attention into build quality since he only interested in racing. Hopefully your new CEO won’t be like him.
June 29, 2007 @ 5:37 pm
longdongsilver said,
June 29, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
‘Since this is a sedan, when priced in the 30K range, it would give some serious competition to the Perodua cars. I hope it goes this way. Pricing it above the 35K mark would be a bad idea. Some people might even be silly enough to buy a Viva over the BLM even though they are in different maket segments.’
==please read again ur above statement. something not rite!
agreed it might have competition to P2 cars. the pricing around 30K to 40K is still ok compared to Viva. A new option/choice for comsumers. People buying viva over this model is not silly. rephase again, “not silly”. this model haven’t launch yet and don’t know when. Can be compared at the moment. moreover, is individual taste, need, budget, running cost, etc… a simple question for u, will u buy a smart forfour 1.3 over a myvi 1.3 or gen2 1.3? someone does.
so is irrelevant claim, mate. hahaha………think again please, will u?
June 29, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
Price it arnd RM25K…that what this type of car real price is….really disgusted wt our artificially tax inflated prices.
June 29, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
Hope this time, no more “Proton Cacat” (poorly built car) or “Poton Lalat” (high vibration, noise and harshness cabin)…
RAISE YOUR STANDARDS!…
June 29, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
proton.com said,
June 29, 2007 @ 11:46 am
Claiming that Proton RnD is low in creative thinking is serious accusations.
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What is this serious accusation? It is indeed BASELESS accusation.
It should read as “Claiming that Proton RnD is low in INNOVATION thinking is seriously is a FACT”.
Highly engineering or technological products always talk about innovation (science). For non-technological products like fashion, painting, then it is always refer to creative/artistic (art) products.
Are you agree with me? if not then I would to hear from you!
June 29, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
tec96248,
it is my opinion. Viva is not worth the money. I also happen to know that the BLM is a good car (at least for testing). Quality will dictate whether the production model is good. Just not sure about the price. I think the track record of the Savvy would be good enough to vouch for the BLM.
June 29, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
From the pics, the dash board meter no longer have the Ladies Bra Type Design…Must be following the design like Savvy. good efford from Proton. Hopefully, they will do away with those Bra Type design in future.. looks really ugly. N unlike savvy, hopefully they will not have a square hole on the pasengger dash board, looks like a tong sampah. just close it neatly like myvvi without airbag.
June 29, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
longdongsilver said,
June 29, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
They should copy Perodua’s business model and come out with both guns loaded. Don’t try to reinvent the wheel, if Perodua made it work with the Malaysian public, then Proton should copy that.
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perodua mde it works becoz the company run by Japanese.. .. no matter how good the car.. if it’s run by Malaysia,.. ppl wudn’t trust it.. believe me
June 29, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
whoaaa…panas.mcm oven.guys, dun be such ridiculous. to bashers, dun bash blindly just because its p1. to be honestly, I’m not a p1 supporter either.my family own peroduas, neither 1 of us bought proton,because we prefer the quality. But this time if u say this BLM ugly u are Bodo! Thats too much. I used to bashed proton oso. If this car come out within price of 40k in s’wak, i choose this rather than viva. If u say viva cantek, i don think so. Now P1 do it right i must support. P2 sudah naik kepala with overprice viva, sorry..i must say no! and 1 more thing, myvi is good so protonian oso must admit it. I still have faith on you proton. Keep up!:) but plz upgrade your quality! i repeat it again:Plz no campro in this!:) peace to proton and perodua:)
June 29, 2007 @ 9:11 pm
To moto_moto. I agree with you.
Don’t just write what ever we like BLINDLY. Got correct facts never mind.
June 29, 2007 @ 9:12 pm
To kei9. Have you read the comment from hameed koyakuti for me? The one he said ….. It is a NEO Sedan. Lu budak2 apa tau……….( Highly classisfied infomation ). What do you think?
June 29, 2007 @ 9:31 pm
Relax mr.proton. cool down because it’s saturday then sunday again. relax.
June 29, 2007 @ 9:36 pm
look carefully at the 1st photo, It using wira front bumper. so, the final design is not done yet. i have the instinct saying this is not neo sedan. If yes why don they put on neo bumpers intead of wira’s right?i dont think its a savvy sedan neither because it doesnt inherit savvy’s ‘characters’ at all. Correct me if im wrong.i would say its totally a new design. just my 2sen. btw, isn’t that wira head lamp oso? Anyway better wait for the finalize design
June 29, 2007 @ 9:47 pm
looks like i already know which is the really p1 supporters.
i will give good comment on this if they are really produce a good quality cars with good parts and did not have to maintain frequently. but if they still staying in the old way for sure i will bash them for the rest of my life.
to djvanilla:
malaysian. i’m not malaysian. i’m very ashamed to be malaysian because of the G. no proud at all.
and now another p1 basher is coming!
June 29, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
To eeheng. How about Buka Lu Mata (BLM) meaning ask you to open your eyes. Please wake up! This is not old models and old technology which you found in old models from Proton (excluding savvy & satria neo) as the last two models, improved a lot than ever before. so stay tune.
This one could be even better. So please don’t simply write negative things. Think possitive at least a bit.
June 29, 2007 @ 10:00 pm
To PTAllTheBest. Sorry if I’m wrong on this as your message just after mine. If you saying about me, sorry I’m not Proton supporter. Just an ordinary car fans.
June 29, 2007 @ 10:01 pm
Some smarty pants here says it’s a Neo Sedan. Wahlauweii!!! Neo sedan got high roof line meh???
Guys, as the headlamps are heavily taped, I noticed the headlamps look larger than usual. If u look carefully, it looks similar to the Savvy’s headlamps, except for the position of the turn signal indicators which are integrated to the inner side of each headlamp.
Si-fu,
I know its fitted with the Campro (without CPS), but does it include the Variable Intake Manifold as well? New gearbox? Not from Mitsubishi? Is it from PROTON????? Please tell us. My mouth watering already.
June 29, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
hi nizam80. long time no hear. thanks for the imput. some “SMART” guys with his/her “Highly classisfied infomation” want to argue with me. I’ll see how he/she answer my questions
June 29, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
To nizam80. I don’t think the gearbox (transmission system) is from Proton itself as to build the gearbox it really need very high costs to build. Even BMW gets some of its gearbox from ZF.
June 29, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
hey..this BLM’s back have a stark resemblance with dacia logan….
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/480062/+60
im the one posting the thread….
June 29, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
nizam80,
The BLM will use Campro 1.3 with Variable Intake Manifold(VIM/IAFM) only.
This is an entry model car to replace existing SAGA.
Anyway the upcoming WAJA MC3 Phase 2 and Gen2 Hatchback FaceLift next month will have Campro 1.6 with CPS.
June 29, 2007 @ 10:23 pm
to the unicons:
sorry if i have offend u and if u r not a real p1 supporter. i just only log in late.
June 29, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
Anywayz.. VIM is mated with CPS to improve low torque at Campro.. If BLM want to be cheap i dont think VIM also in the engine, is useless to put in and i think the torque may only improve a bit.. Campro 1.3 is the best on its category, i dont think having VIM will help him cut cost.. VIM is from bosch, so having it is like paying license to Bosch on each VIM.. Only what i know CPS is from Lotus.. So big chances for cheap budjet car is just a old campro 1.3 engine with manual tranmission..
June 29, 2007 @ 10:48 pm
proton! if really u will fit this with Campro make sure u campor with VIM other wise u will bungkus. Campro really bad low end torque.
June 29, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
Can I say for example this car look at naked eye, the backside is dummy as it is tap all over and look like “one-piece” stick to the hatchback as Paul indicate it is based on modified Savvy platform, that in turn modified from Clio II that Savvy acquired it outmoded D4F 1.2L engine.
Log on below and see how the similarity between this BLM (minus buttock) and Clio II: -
http://www.cars-directory.net/gallery/renault/clio_ii/1999/
http://www.cars-directory.net/history/renault/clio_ii/
Claimed to be the most powerful engine in it class by some ignorant Protonian out there. But the true fact is this engine is the smallest “lawn mover” and “entry level” capacity for Clio II. Clio engine portfolio included 1.4L, 1.6L, 1.8L, 1.9L & 2.0L.
Why don’t this P1’s junk acquired 1991 1.8L 16-valve engine producing 137hp capable of reaching 125mph (200 km/h)?
June 29, 2007 @ 11:06 pm
for me, proton still dont have a good ideas to beat toyota or honda especially the design…so many of us, who have a little budget ‘terpaksa’ buy this car to show their own stylish..hahaha
June 30, 2007 @ 12:43 am
agreed with normaluser and longdongsilver,
if this car priced between 30k-35k ppl still buy super overpriced 1.0L 44k viva….then they are not only silly but brainless as well. coz dis is 1.3L category. of course it is still too early to say until we see the actual car.
but based on current info….only the price n built quality will determine whether it will eat perodua katak/viva alive….ahhaha
unfortunately….there are many brainless ppl around….
i once asked a friend (girl) whether she prefers a new mercedez slk200k or p2 myvi if both cars selling at rm50k. guess what was her answer? she prefer p2 myvi.
reason??????
coz she said no need maintenence (low maintenence)
typical 3rd world mentality of malaysians….sigh
June 30, 2007 @ 1:45 am
king, I have no intention of being rude, though my statement may sound sexist, it is a fact that women should NEVER EVER deny: when it comes to car, women are pathetic. Oh sure, the papers are trying to change that thought by featuring some hot-looking celebrities, models, or w/e saying “I desire for M6″, “I wished for Enzo Ferrari”, “Golf GTi is my choice”, but that changes nothing.
I showed my classmate before a picture of my (ex-)dream car, Murcielago (now it’s the one with LP640 spyder at the back ;)), and she thought it was useless w/o space for shopping/kids. I decided to NEVER EVER talk abt cars with any women at all since then.
Now, abt the spy pic. It does look like it’s based on the Savvy’s platform, which is good thing. Only, I’m just afraid they might repeat the mistake in Gen2: horrid interior which uses “WIN!! FREE!! SAVE!!” materials. Then, on a more careful inspection, the 3rd brake light doesn’t look like LED to me, though I hope I’m wrong at this.
Just make sure it can fit in the Campro instead of the Renault engine, and it’ll be great. Also, I’m sure they’ll offer a H-line model with ABS and airbag, a strong selling point of a car in Msia. This is indeed, a commendable effort by Proton in their serious attempt to become even with the rest of the field.
And yet.
I’m gonna agree with king. Sorry Proton, you’ve worked hard, and yet you’re nt forgiven by the Msians thanks to the old management and the gahmen. We are a country who couldn’t give a sheez abt Lotus RnH, tough bodyshell, etc, we just selfishly want a “washing machine with 4 wheels” which is ultra reliable (as if), cheap (yeah right), and made in Japan or anything associated with it (absolute statement).
June 30, 2007 @ 1:58 am
what kind of shit design is that? just might beat the savvy in terms of the ugliest car in the world.
no hope man this proton. management who allow this to be made deserve to be shot. 10 times.
June 30, 2007 @ 6:21 am
The Unicons said,
June 29, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
To eeheng. How about Buka Lu Mata (BLM) meaning ask you to open your eyes. Please wake up! This is not old models and old technology which you found in old models from Proton (excluding savvy & satria neo) as the last two models, improved a lot than ever before. so stay tune.
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well said bro..eventho ..last 2 models(savvy n neo) has good track, those blind bashes keep talking about power windows/ saga/wira problems..
prrrfthh
pity them
June 30, 2007 @ 7:36 am
The Unicons, and theking,
Thanks for your reply. If the gearbox is not from Mitsubishi, then probably, it’ll be from Renault (And is VW a possibility too?). Of course I’m only guessing here.
However, is it possible to match the Campro engine with the Renault gearbox, as from my knowledge, Campro engines are only design to be match with Mitsubishi gearboxes, as the development of the Campro engine (S4PH and S4PE) itself is based on the Mitsu’s 4G18 engine. Anybody is free to correct me if I’m wrong.
June 30, 2007 @ 9:02 am
mr. topgun,
still a little too early to condemn the design, right?
myvi ain’t an award winner in terms of design but it still sell like hot cakes. In fact, if there was an award for ugliest car in think myvi could win top 3 position. sadly, ppl here dun give a damn bout design. thats y my eye sakit see so many ugly,bulky,boxy cars around.
designwise i think p1 beats p2 hands down in recent models. can’t say the same bout built quality/space though.
June 30, 2007 @ 9:09 am
well said tokmoh
June 30, 2007 @ 11:40 am
back to topic. my opinion:
1)this car - ok for this moment
2)savvy - ugly.no matter u wanna call it lotus or wat ever. i dun wan to sit in this car.malu!
3)myvi - good bargain. for me the burit is acceptable.
4)viva - No!
current saga - ok if budget and need a car
kancil - ok but drive kfully because its a cheap car and don belagak drive laju2. know it capability.
vios - very good! but expensive.i cant afford.
gen2 - disaster!
neo - ok.better built quality.but down by campro engine. plus its 2 door. i need 4 door sedan. maybe u need only 2 door.:) fine.
perdana - good car but org gila only want to spend 100K for this:)
and lastly, second hand imported brand - maybe u can use. but not me.u know y?because who knows maybe the previous owner carried mayat. or for malays to consider, wat if mayb previous owner carried babi. Maybe the driver korek hidung in his car and grabbed steering.u buy u grab oso.muahaha. Maybe the previous owner had sex in his car, sperm splashed all over.u buy u smell his sperm.muahaha. no offence yo!
June 30, 2007 @ 12:57 pm
back to topic. MY OPINION:
1)this car - the design is ok for this moment.quality is still a questian mark.
2)savvy - ugly.no matter u wanna call it lotus or wat ever. i dun wan to sit in this car.malu!
3)myvi - good bargain. for me the burit is acceptable.
4)viva - No!
5)current saga - ok if budget and need a car
6)kancil - ok but drive kfully because its a cheap car and don belagak drive laju2. know it capability.
7)vios - very good! my dream car.but expensive.i cant afford.
8)gen2 - disaster!
9)neo - ok.better built quality.but down by campro engine. plus its 2 door. i need 4 door sedan. maybe u need only 2 door.:) fine.
10)perdana - good car but org gila only want to spend 100K for this:)
and lastly, second hand imported brand - maybe u can use. but not me.u know y?because who knows maybe the previous owner carried mayat. or for malays to consider, wat if mayb previous owner carried babi. Maybe the driver korek hidung in his car and grabbed steering.u buy u touch his taik idung oso.muahaha. Maybe the previous owner had sex in his car, sperm splashed all over.u buy u smell his sperm.muahaha.
But if wanna buy second hand car because u cant afford new 1, then it become your best choice. no offence yo!