It was bright and sunny this morning, with the kind of clear blue sky with minimal overcast that begged for you to go out and take a stroll to warm your body up in preparation to face Christmas weekend. So that’s exactly what I did.
Two hours and close to 8km later, I felt refreshed, yet a little sick at the same time. My entire upper airway felt like it was covered in a layer of mucous. The blue sky made the day look like it was fresh and clean, but in reality the air felt a little thick, like it was a little powdery to be honest.
The source – internal combustion engine vehicle pollution, it’s everywhere. Even as I sit here writing this story on the first floor of a commercial centre while having a cup of coffee, the air is horrible thanks to the high volume of cars and motorcycles passing by.
Admittedly I put myself into this situation. After all, walking for 2 hours outside and sitting outside at a coffee joint are entirely optional scenarios. Activities that are “non-essential”, a popular phrase from not too long ago in the history of Malaysia.
But this is what many people have to go through everyday. Think of the kids that wait for their transport at school. Have you seen the massive traffic jam of cars with their engine turned on and idling? Or people who work in little kiosks next to a parking area. Or the stalls at highway rest stops. Or the security guards in a parking lot. Or the traffic police trying to ease the morning congestion.
In 2013, a 9 year old girl died from a fatal asthma attack in Britain. She lived near a major road in southeast London. A coroner ruled that air pollution was the official cause of death, because she had been exposed to levels of nitrogen dioxide and particulate matter in excess of WHO guidelines.
The main source of her exposure was traffic emissions. Her mother said that if she had been told air pollution was contributing to her daughter’s ill health, she would have moved. In the three years leading up to her death, she had gone in and out of the hospital nearly 30 times.
An estimated 4.2 million deaths per year are caused by air pollution. A major source of air pollution that’s breathed in by humans are not caused by coal-fired electricity plants, but traffic pollution. And children are the most vulnerable due to their developing lungs, yet they breathe in an incredible amount of diesel particulate pollution while they wait for their transport, and while they sit in school buses or vans that aren’t properly sealed from traffic pollution. That’s at least 2 hours of exposure every school day, minimum.
It even affects humans before they are born. According to a WHO article, when pregnant women are exposed to polluted air, premature births are more likely. It also affects neurodevelopment, cognitive ability, and increases likelihood of childhood cancer and cardiovascular disease.
Research by scientists at the University of Aberdeen UK have found that unborn babies have air pollution particles in their developing lungs and other vital organs as early as the first trimester. Yes, air pollution has screwed up your baby’s lungs even before your baby has taken a first breath of air.
Ten paragraphs later, I think it’s about time I get to what I am trying to say. Yes, in a country where coal-fired power plants are used to generate electricity, electric cars are not truly zero emissions.
However, there are clear benefits to having coal burned for electricity away from where humans live, in a power plant that’s a lot more efficient with cleaner emissions output than the internal combustion engine that’s being started every morning and left to idle in the porch to “warm up”, allowing its emissions to seep into every house on the road where it is parked.
Overall zero carbon emissions is the end goal, a perfect solution, and will be good for the environment, but there are immediate health benefits to removing the source of all kinds of emissions (carbon, nitrogen oxide, soot particulates, etc) from where people live, where our children live, play, cycle.
There is this thing called the nirvana fallacy where we tend to compare actual things to unrealistic, idealised alternatives, or the tendency to assume there must be a perfect solution to a problem, choosing to reject a realistic achievable possibility in favour of waiting for an unrealistic solution that could be better because some part of the problem that needs to be solved would still exist after it were implemented. It’s like rejecting the use of seat belts because some people would still die in car crashes.
Our electricity generation mix will get cleaner, and so will electric car technology. Both electric cars and electricity will get less environmentally damaging to produce over the next decade.
According to a study by TNB, electric cars are already 23% cleaner in terms of carbon emissions (I repeat, this is just carbon) compared to ICE cars, and as according to TNB’s own plan to reduce reliance on coal power over the next few decades, it will improve to 32% by 2040 and it will only get better thereafter. The target is to be coal-free by 2050.
So yes, while on paper you see this figure of being only 23% cleaner, I guarantee if all the cars that line up outside the school to pick up your kids are electric cars instead, it will be 100% healthier for them and their lungs will thank you for it.
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It’s not a joke. But it’s just expensive for our ordinary Malaysian, but a toy for the rich.
It’s a progressive product of modern science and technology. It’s the future.
Think about the cost of an EV is around a myvi, then it will become a main stream of vehicles that you will see here.
“progressive product of modern science and technology”?
The first successful electric car in the US made its debut around 1890 thanks to William Morrison, a chemist who lived in Des Moines.
In the UK milk delivery vans were electric until the late 1970s, then they were replaced by diesel vans.
And Penang had electric busses from 1924 to 1961 …
Dont be fool by mask man … bcoz he dont have the Hydrogen FuelCell technology … sohai betoi…
The typical traffic jam is 2hrs … Pls save the towing car contact number when u run out of battery… also any official number the battery can stand how many hours of Air-cond?
Power (coal) plant can improve emissions quality standards
EVs means more fossil fuels burnt up to generate electricity.No nation is solely reliant on nuke power.
Get this fact straight:Industries r the main source of universal pollution.Not ICE vehicles.
EVs r marketed as “green” tech,while Elon Musk becomes a trillionaire as child labour is used to extract raw materials in Congo for his electric battery.He is the world’s richest hypocrite.
Dont think EVs r cool.TNB has to generate more power by burning more coal.
And you conveniently forgot that solar power is getting cheaper and cheaper.
It’s still expensive. Takes years to get back your ROI and do tell me how much power can you recoup during monsoon season at the moment.
Yes, solar panels are getting cheaper and cheaper because they are made with forced labour:
BBC,14 May 2021: “China uses Uyghur forced labour to make solar panels, says report”
Has you ever look at a solar panel or solar equipment manufacturing factory? The amount of hazardous fume, liquid they release everyday..just be because the end product is clean but you got to look at the manufacturing stage, how these contribute to the destruction of someone else life
We won’t be using coal or fossil fuel forever. And steps have already been taken. A hydrogen capable 2x 720 MW gas turbine power system is already up and running in Pasir Gudang. And don’t think for a second it’s an outdated passed-down tech. It’s one of the largest and most efficient cogeneration gas turbine power system GE has ever produced, and Pasir Gudang is their debut. For now they run on natural gas but could run 50/50 mix with hydrogen or even full hydrogen when the economics is right.
I don’t know how you don’t know this. It was major news last year. Also Malaysia is planning on retiring over 11 GW worth (out of the current 26 GW total, either for the whole Malaysia or just the Peninsular I don’t remember) of ‘dirty’ power plants by 2029, most of which are coal. So unless you do your part and drive ICE cars sensibly, save electricity, save water, and recycle to reduce our country’s net CO2 emissions you don’t get to complain of how we are “dirtying” the country with EVs. That would make you the hypocrite.
And where the hydrogen shall come from? Electrolysis maybe, with an efficiency of 65% at best?
I work in power supply industry and I can confirm that Malaysia is very serious in reducing carbon footprint by investing in renewable energy. Plenty of rooftop & large scale solar plants are being built everywhere. In 2025, RE share in generation mix will be 31% which is a lot, and the percentage will increase until we reach net zero carbon mainly by using solar & battery energy storage. 8 years ago I mainly deal with fossil fuel power plants but since 2019 now my work is 95% dealing with commissioning & managing solar plants. The stakeholders like ST, KETSA, TNB, SB, SEDA & My Power are now frequently meeting, planning, creating taskforces for large scale RE adoption. You can read about Malaysia Renewable Energy Roadmap in SEDA website.
TNB May need to need to generate more power for EV, but it means less fuel burned near houses. Less pollution near humans that are killing and maiming all of us.
GM Wooling car is already cheaper than MyVi, but it will not be available in Malaysia because of limited production. Slightly more expensive versions will be on sale in Indonesia but these are not even popular in China. Mainland Chinese prefer luxury EV cars because not enough luxury vehicles for sale in China that can match EVs.
Once these luxury segments are satisfied, only then will it be worthwhile to build consumer mass market vehicles.
Ghey joke
2016 and now, still talking sh1t. You arent even malaysian anymore
Why are you ghey?
Gay/ghey is haram in Islam
“In 2023, a 9 year old girl died from a fatal asthma attack in Britain”
Considering that I read this article in December 2022, I wonder if it is written by a time traveler?
There’s two ways to reduce air pollution from usage of cars. One is by switching to a car that has no air pollution output like EVs. Which happens to be expensive and unrealistic for a low PPP country like Malaysia. Maybe if you go to a international school in KL, you might find a few EVs, but I guarantee that you will find more Vellfires instead.
The second way is to either have enforcement in vehicle inspections or mandatory vehicle inspections every few years up to a certain age, similar to what Japan has. Enforce emissions for heavy vehicles. Ban heavy vehicles in cities. Even in KL, there are still people driving plow tractors along the highway, or overloaded lorries blowing out black smoke at 30km/h up a slope. Solving the heaviest polluters will make the biggest change in our air quality. We havent even talked about heavy industries and factories yet.
Asking mass market adoption of EVs is just pushing the responsibility of cleaning the air onto us. The only real environmental advantage of using EVs here is reducing our reliance on petrol. Nothing to do with cleaner air. But lets face it, as long as B40 M40 still cannot afford EVs, govt needs to keep up petrol subsidy. Not to mention cars are not expensive, you can thank proton and perodua protectionism for that. Where are the cheap EVs from our “national” car producers?
To add to this comment, cost or EV batteries are going up so no way this can be affordable in the next decade. It will remain as a rich man’s toy for the foreseeable future. https://www.businessinsider.com/automakers-rising-electric-vehicle-battery-costs-lithium-affordability-2022-12?amp
Vellfire is more expensive than comparable sized EV, and yet you call Malaysia low GDP nation that can afford to buy lots of Vellfire. Tesla Model X is huge. Not to mention Model S Plaid that are much cheaper than Lamborghini and Ferraris, with much better performance. Only idiots will want to buy ICE versions of these luxury vehicles instead of equivalent EVs but surely a lot of them in Malaysia.
“However, there are clear benefits to having coal burned for electricity away from where humans live, in a power plant that’s a lot more efficient”
The power plant itself might be more efficient, compared to a petrol ICE. But until the electrons reach your battery, there are losses by electric power conversion (high voltage to low voltage and again to high voltage), current-resistance losses in cables etc. etc.
Let’s not forget the elephant in the room here – Motorcycles have long known to be on average 10x more polluting than cars and this study was done ages ago; while cars have come a significant way since then, motorcycles haven’t seen the same level of improvements.
Bikes may be more fuel efficient (given that relatively, they weigh nothing), but it produces a significantly higher amount of hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide, and nitrogen oxides. Where’s the attention focus on that?
I’m sure the math isn’t as linear but rhetorically speaking doesn’t it suggest for every car off the road we should also remove 10 motorcycles and have them use public transportation? Yet nobody addresses this point and readily point fingers towards cars/car owners instead – hmm i wonder why…
As you can see those rempits with 2 stroke engine, really polluting the environment.. not to mention the sound pollution that coming from those exhaust
All forms of transportation, cars, bikes, planes, ships, should be indeed held accountable for their carbon emissions. But I think it’s really unfair that civilian motor cars are being targeted while the shipping industry, cruise industry and the super wealthy with their private jets (that account for an alarmingly high rate of carbon emissions) regularly gets a pass.
Well, u yourself said the study is done ages ago and i bet with older engines which contribute to more pollution. Bar 2 stroke engines which is getting lesser (almost extinct unless during weekend) these days, cheapo bikes with carb engine are meeting at least euro 3 emmission std and this is based from manufacturer claim.
Cars have seen significant improvement? Not really, all the tech are already there a long2 time ago but people dont take notice which is why most engines sold here arent sold in country with strict emmission standard. Here in our country, we can only significant leap in term of safety feature. Engines tech is more or less the same.
This is uneducated talk. a carburetted 8hp kapchai will produce less emission than a 100hp myvi. He also uses less earth resource to move himself on a 100kg bike as opposed to you hauling over 1000kg of weight just to move yourself.
“According to a study by TNB, electric cars are already 23% cleaner in terms of carbon emissions (I repeat, this is just carbon) compared to ICE cars”
TNB is more or less a company which want to sell electric and not petrol. How about a study from Petronas, Petron, Shell, Caltex? ;)
TNB is indirectly Petronas Ron95 saying Euro4M not so clean yet?
do you really think people can lie in published research journals just to prove a biased point
a Research Paper can prove Coffee shorten life, vice versa. But both not wrong.
It is bias depends who is presenting facts selectively.
Yes
LOL you think people don’t? Bro have you published a paper before while doing your masters or PhD.. there are plenty of vendor sponsored studies to cherry pick data that suit their desired conclusion
The TNB study has been peer-reviewed
Meaning all peers got money from TNB? ;)
Hi Paul, have you consider also the impact of the battery? EV has a very big battery, after 8 to 10 years, how to handle this auch big volume of e-waste if all EV on the road? This impact to environment too.
after 10 years ev are still running on the road, it is not a disposable toy la.
“after 10 years ev are still running on the road”
Wow we have a Nobel Prize winner here who has successfully mass-produced lithium batteries without the electrode dendrite problem..
how many percent of ev batteries that are 10 years old gave the electrode dendrite problem and how many are perfectly functional?
It’s exactly this reason that the first gen batteries that will cost the most pollution and there’s no clear cut way on how our 3rd party mechanics should dispose these old batteries as they are all reaching the end of their lifespan.
in 2012 – EV cars available are like Nissan Leaf, BMW i3, Mitsu Imiev, Chevy Volt.
However, people prefer used Gasoline and Prius instead of those EV. 10 years old EV do looks like a disposable toy.
Realistically as of now it is near impossible to stop any kind of pollution. But what the article is conveying is, the most polluting source of carbon emission is from internal combustion vehicles which are everywhere now. It is like 99% of every location in the world there is cars or bikes or trucks. Even planes.
Imagine when all or at least 70% of these are EVs. That will significantly reduces carbon emission. Remember during Covid lockdown when everyone was prevented from going out? See how clean the air becomes during that time because there is very little amount of vehicles on the road.
EV are expensive now, true. Eventually they will come down in price and public charging becomes a convenience. Right now we cannot afford an EV, but we must support all efforts to reduce carbon emission. Disruptive technology takes time to be mainstream and matures, and when it does it will be cheaper for all. While they have been here long time ago, only recently EV tech becomes widely acceptable and pose a serious alternatives to ICE.
The technology are maturing.
When building charging stations in Malaysia, make sure the stations are installed with solar panels. Charging cars using solar, if no charging, the extra electric output can sell back to TNB, can reduce dependency to coal power.
If government can provide tax incentives to companies setting up factories like car charging equipment, batteries, and other components, so electric car can be produced locally with lower prices.
Reason for electric car expensive due to raw material to produce the electric car batteries very expensive. If R&D able to find a more cheaper alternative. The car will be cheaper.
The reports here talk about charging capacities of up to 350kW. You know how many solar cells you need to get 350kW and how much space it would be needed to install them?
solar charges an ESS battery, the battery outputs the 350 kw
So they can charge only 1 car per week? Because the rest of the time the battery have to be recharged?
Take some physics tution, boy.
Ya the problem is nobody compares the impact of harvesting the rare earth metals required to build the batteries and whats the plans to dispose off such batteries. Are they recyclable like conventional engines?
People are pushing a technology with no proper end solution. Especially dangerous in a country that never has a long term plan.
This is dangerous. Just like phones nowdays, we used to be able to use them for years, just change out the old batteries.. now we fill landfills with old phones because the batteries are non removable. Companies literally brainwash us to buy the latest phones that are just similar to the old ones.
We shouldve gone to cleaner fuels and engines before worrying about electric
Global warming started by CFC, Chlorofluorocarbon, great cooling stuff designed by American
till today CFC unable to be fully banned yet.
CFC caused Ozone depletion hence caused a direct Global Warming.
Full EV is just a phase, hydrogen is the future
Yes. Hydrogen fuel cells are the future.
A lot of EV fanatics still picture ICEs and even hybrids as noisy, inefficient, disgusting ancient tech from the pre-War Industrial era. Why ?
They refuse to acknowledge the fact that the latest petrol engines are quieter, fuel efficient and cleaner than ever before. We now have widespread adoption of EFI/GDI, forced induction, cylinder deactivation, start/stop etc..
The latest hybrid cars are no longer ‘lembik’ oddball tin cans anymore, many have very advanced on-board computers which maximize fuel savings, low-end torque, energy management, thermal cycling.. You won’t even know you’re driving a hybrid, it’s all executed very seamlessly.
Basically, it would take hundreds of new Euro 6 cars to pollute as much as a single Euro 2 milo tin from the 1990s. Most of the traffic pollution is disproportionately from old commercial vehicles, two-stroke kapcais, and old beater cars which won’t pass JPJ.
If we go with EV-only future, cars will become affordable for the rich and privileged only. This might not be a serious problem if public transport was practical, reliable, accessible and safe.
Reality is, only a few countries, mainly those small or ultra-rich like Singapore, Switzerland, Norway etc.. can afford to totally ban ICE cars and switch to EV-only future. Rest of us need to find a way to coexist, ICE and EV… maybe FCEV too.
“If we go with EV-only future, cars will become affordable for the rich and privileged only” that’s the point. WEF’s wet dream.
WEF’s global emasculation agenda…
Elon Musk once clarified that even if the electricity that powers an EV is 100% from fossil-fueled power stations, the carbon generated by that EV is much less than ICE cars. That’s because power stations by their sheer size are more efficient at converting energy from fuel, than the small engines in ICE cars. Even with taking into account the losses in power transmission.
Want to really reduce carbon foot print ? Breathe less, breed less. Seriously, all this talk is pointless when we are all hung up with going digital ( a lot of power to run the cloud servers, networks etc) and online shopping (with countless purchases of unnecessary items in the name of consumerism .. plus all the added traffic delivering to the doorstep ). the more obvious carbon culprit are holiday travel, traffic jams, aircond and consumerism ( we humans are busy digging , melting, building , demolishing , packing , delivering, shopping etc in an endless circle creating lots of carbon footprint ). Sorry , simply want to say even EV is not a solution. walking, bicycle, roller blading, skateboarding .. encourage local economy without needing massive international logistics, live a simple existence , respect nature
so EV is the solution la. LGBT cannot breed what.
Wrong. They breed freaks. Haven’t you seen “pregnant fathers” and LGBT couples that use surrogates to get kids? Their kids will grow up just as mentally ill as the parents and turn the planet into a woke wasteland.
In NZ ,,,,, One EV charging Compnay ONLY BUYS/USES …… Electricity generated from Wind or Solar. That is TOTALLY .. FREE OF POLLUTION. Many …”^$%$&$$” still think thet ELECTRICITY … MUST come from Oil/Gas/Coal. Nuclear is also free from “pollution”.But there will be “&&^&*%%” who thinks that Nuclear is BAD. Please note tha 1KG of Uranium(U238) can provide 800MW-Days. But why No WIND FARM or Solar Farm in Malaysia ?
If 1 time Fukushima Nuclear history repeat @ NZ,
then the pollution is even more and they will failed Carbon Neutral.
Really want to reduce carbon foot print? have less babies please.
Say in the future where most of us charge our electric car at night, can our infrastructure handle the demand?
1.0hp A/C @ 750watt.
Snail Charging Car AC at 7,000watt.
10x 1.0hp A/C.
how to handle the burden?
Electric cars does not solve traffic jam. Perhaps a more livable place is where most of us can travel without wasting most of our time on the road.
I have worked in power stations for almost 30 years, 21 of them in a coal-powered plant. I can assure you that even though a coal plant is designed to be extremely clean, in reality it is far from that. The pollution is unbelievable. Decades before Covid, masks had already become a part of my life. Don’t for a minute believe power stations are clean.
why arent you dead yet?
Even angel of death also *cough*. How to fetch his soul…
Electricity generation is just as polluting as well as the materials used to manufacture the batteries. Period. Takyah tegakkan benang basah.
I will stick to my soon to be 22 year old Kelisa. It is less than 800kg. Fuel injected 3 cylinder 998cc 55hp economical engine. Smart packaging, doesn’t take a lot of space. More importantly, the car doesn’t pollute. The problem is car makers are making their car into big heavy SUVs that is not economical, worse into an EV that is heavy. Of course car makers and governments need to find ways to sex up the industry. At one time we made.into believe that diesel engines are green, what a load a bullsh. Just smell the thing. Disposing batteries, range anxiety, charging times, I don’t understand why EV is even the solution. We need to go back to basic. Kei car is the future
even kei car has gone electric now. nissan sakura.
But low spec,
Less top speed,
Less range,
kei cars arent exactly the epitome of specs and refinement
When I look at Benz Masterpiece from the old days,
I see plastic and gaps everywhere, smelly plastic too.
New cheap car easy tapau outdated luxury. No class
It pollutes my optic nerves
Damn right. Sing it, Eddie..
Those old shitboxes on the roads (ancient Hondas, Protons, Peroduas) with B40 noisy exhaust systems and ratrod aesthetics (different-colored body panels.. different colored bumpers.. weird aluminium rear lower arms and drilled holes on the rear bumpers) are as polluting as crappy motorbikes while being a total eyesore.
Ya bro!
All these POS need to be off the road. Only cars with any sort classic value can stay. The rest of the rust-buckets need to go. Now!
We were out on a date in my daddy’s car
We hadn’t driven very far
There in the road, straight ahead
A car was stalled, the engine was dead
Completely agree with this sentiment. Comparing the 1.5L toyota vios with the 1.3 nissan sunny we used to have and the fuel efficiency of the 30 year old nissan completely wipes the floor with the toyota. Even when you account for the difference in engine displacement and curb weight, it is no contest. So much for higher efficiency, cvt transmission bla bla bla. Also being able to repair the car easily, minimal electronics, and not having to go back to stealership for just about anything. It’s all about control, profits and keeping people in an endless debt trap.
Show the data
Economically, your 22 year old Kelisa looks good. But, safety wise, not really. Latest technology to strengthen crumple zone, anti-skidding, etc will help you to avoid accident. Even if other crazy drivers collide with you head on, at least a chance to survive is better with latest car safety features.
To make an ev car is more polluting than ice car. By average ev car take 5 years to breakeven with ice car in c02 output. Bigger battery ev car will take even worse up to 7-9 years. This figure is based on the elcetricity source from 100% green energy. If country like malaysia electric source from mostly coal, then it defeat the purpose on reducing the pollution. By comparisson u are less damaging using ur ice car for 15 years rather than buying new ev car every 5 years
of course when talking about so-called zero-emission vechile, battery-powered cars seem to be the right choice. however, what most people have neglected is that they forgot that the process of making the battery and the byproduct is creating more pollution than ICE car itself.
Just enjoy driving your ICE car la…don’t bother about going electric la….life is short, just enjoy it before you kick the bucket…
Yeah. Let our kids and future generation suffer in the long term so that they can curse us at our grave….
So true. Everyone wants to be “hero”. With some brain please!
actually the charging points initiative missed a simple point – the charging points MUST deliver power from renewable energy sources. be it PV or biomass or any other non fossil based fuel
that should form the biggest portions of the charging points. yes u may have chargers with conventional fossil fuel based sources, but they must be in smallest numbers
and, transportation forms the biggest energy usage, also contributed the biggest portion of emissions. just cut it by 10% also good enough for now
Believing your ice car is better than ev is like loving that old Nokia phone you used to had
It shows that you don’t really know what you’re buying. Just following trend.Just assume new things are always better.
The old Nokia had to be charged once per week only?
Suggest the writer/editors make reference to Volvo’s carbon footprint reports for the XC40 and C40 – pretty transparent for a manufacturer that wants to go completely electric, and has identical vehicles to compare ICE vs EV. The breakeven point where the total GHG’s released are telling – have to run the cars for more than 110,000 km before it happens. So in the context of Malaysian vehicle ownership, (government cost barriers to entry, average disposable income, upgrade cycle for new car owners, maintenance costs and difficulty for 3rd party repair even when EV’s have less moving parts) when is this going to happen?
Not that I don’t agree with the premise for cleaner air, but personal EV ownership is low hanging fruit. Enforcement of emissions standards on commercial/industrial vehicles that are larger offenders per vehicle is what is going to have the biggest effect sooner.
Controlling pollution from a coal powerplant that produce electricity is way easier than trying to control pollution from millions of petrol/diesel vehicles. Have you seen TNB plant spewing out black soot as oppose to heavy trucks ?
Have you ever thought about what they’re going to do with so much scrapped EV batteries in future? What to do with old EV when the cost of battery replacement is higher than the value of the car? Do you know what is the main ingredient used in making batteries? Since the main ingredient is rare, don’t expect the cost to do down. It can only go up when demand is more than supply. So long term sustainability is also questionable. If you think emission is the only source of pollution, think again. Don’t be fooled by articles like this. They only tell you the few positive points, but hide all the negative points which could be much more than the positive points.
EV but not Carbon Neutral, big LoL.
pura pura saja.
when you are using the Lagging fast charge at charging station, you might take another 30mins to 3 hours, depending if 180kW DC or 50kW DC, charging from 20%-80% or 5% to 100%..
Often ppl just stay in EV car with A/C on, waiting lag-fast charge: this is causing more pollution too.
“Air conditioning units consume a lot of energy, creating pollution in the form of greenhouse gas emissions.”
The problem is misleading and misinformation.
Remember the lyrics of the song ‘Hijau’ by Zainal Abidin ; “Dewasa ini kita saling merayakan
Kejayaan yang akhirnya membinasakan”
In the same way, going full EV will be harmful to us in the long term. The environmental and social disaster from harvesting minerals for mass battery production to no clear solution for disposing off used EV batteries will eventually make us realise the mistake of going full EV. I believe Toyota has the right approach, efficient hybrids and push for Hydrogen ICE.
The real problem is cars. Whether EV or ICE, quite frankly private cars are carbon bombs and a colossal waste of space in our increasingly dense cities, on top of forcing people to take on debt they don’t need. If we’re serious about averting global warming, we need to find some way to drive down the volume of cars on the road drastically. Or is this a conversation this site is not ready to have?
Multiple papers, statisticians, and more have numbers that ICE produces much more carbon in its lifetime as opposed to electric cars. It’s a no brainer when it comes to saving the environment.
Sure, the mining of lithium in order to make batteries also affect the environment in other ways. But electric cars not need to be battery-powered. There is also Hydrogen fuel cell, which is the technology I personally rooting for.
A person who oppose EV is just a minority, and a loud one at that. People use cars as a means of transport from point A to B. If you want to drive cars to have fun, you have a track for that, not the public roads. Unless you are a ….?
They didn’t even mention what to do with those scrapped old batteries after 10yrs and those EV batteries are very much bigger than batteries for ICE & hybrid cars. They are not 100% recyclable and the chemicals inside are far more harmful to the environment than the emission from ICE cars. Since the costs of replacing the EV battery would be more than the value of the car, old EV cars which are still in good condition except for battery problems will be scrapped and this will significantly increase wastages, just like old phones. How is this good for the environment?Look at what people are doing with their old Tesla. If they really care for the environment, they should push for Fuel Cell EV (FCEV), not battery EV.
This EV is just as good as the Start/Stop Idle feature, dumb as rock.
The coal is classified as banned energy option like Fossil fuel. So the article might as well said, electricity generated from burning fossil fuel.
long time I’m not commenting. Comment section still fill with stupid pipu.
TNB report totally forget about 2 things, production and delivery of the electricity.
Not electrician but simple calculation.
A level 2 240v 7.7kW EV charger is 33 Amp monster. Our normal house single phase electricity main fuse is rated 60 Amp, that means each and every house that install tis EV charger need to upgraded to 3 phase power to cope with the load. If every house in your area equipped with EV charger, that means the power need for the whole area suddenly is up by at least 50% minimum. Will be even more if those driving luxury EV that have DC fast charger (100+ Amp).
What will happen if power need suddenly raise by at least 50%? Everything from cables, transformers, switch boards, electric generation, etc. will need to be added/upgraded/replaced. We are talking about nation wide major infrastructure upgrade which will take decades if not century.
In the mean time we all need to take EL from work when brownout happened, car not charged enough to reach and later go home from office. Can’t even Work from home because no power mean no computer, no internet, no wifi, mobile signal dropped to basic EDGE/2G (on UPS, power saving mode). Housing area will sounds like pasar malam because every household fire up their power generator..
To the guy who wrote this ‘so what’ articles, you did not elaborate more on the harmfulness of dispose used bulky EV batteries which may leak into our environment in long run.