New RENESIS II Coupe to debut at Tokyo
Mazda has been showing us it’s future design language with a barrage of concepts in the past year or two. Design elements of concept cars such as the Nagare, Ryuga, Senku and Hakaze have already found it’s way onto the new production Mazda 6 sedan, liftback and estate.
A new Mazda Rotary Concept will be shown at the upcoming 2007 Tokyo Motor Show, and it will feature the next generation rotary engine, the successor to the Mazda RENESIS 13B-MSP in the Mazda RX8. The new RENESIS engine will be called the Mazda RENESIS II, and for the first time in decades it will grow larger than the original 1.3 liter capacity for production Mazda rotary engines.
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September 20, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
OMG!!! Rotary FTW!!! Can’t wait!
September 20, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
Hope no more hi-rev-torque rotary
September 20, 2007 @ 4:08 pm
Wow….sounds like very powerful tech….since Toyota, Nissan and Honda’s tech hv been move to advance level, it’s the time for Mazda to reload its reputation in up coming market….
September 20, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
Mazda is always a good car and getting better each time. If VW can revive Proton like what GM did to Mazda, can’t see why there shouldn’t be any collaboration.
September 20, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
I agree with what nobodyatuk said. Mazda makes great cars and they have brave and creative people.
However, Mazda is partly owned by Ford, not GM.
GM is a louzy company, example of what they’ve done is shown in suzuki, isuzu, and subaru.
subaru never manage to update their car impreza chassis under GM.
Izusu, suzuki is selling cheaper and lower quality cars than ever before, they are on par or less than Korean cars now.
September 20, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
Hope the new Renesis 2 engine will not exceed 2.0L… road tax is expensive in Malaysia… Hopefully it is better FC then it’s predecessor..
September 20, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
ooo…thanks Jamsbong, no wonder why it looks like the new Mondeo.
September 20, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
rotary dream
September 20, 2007 @ 9:48 pm
and improve lifespan…. say min 500,000 for no-brainer petrol heads!
September 20, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
LittleFire85,
1.3cc rotary already that power…..
is 2.0cc hmmm……hard to imagine about it…
September 21, 2007 @ 3:08 am
Praying it goes into new RX-8 and does not drink fuel like water
September 21, 2007 @ 8:41 am
C’mon, wankel/rotary engines are designed to be smooth and hi-rev, that’s y it’s only used in performance cars (Mazda 787B, Le Mans winner), and RX-7s and 8s. If u want good FC, get a Lexus instead for that kind of money
September 21, 2007 @ 9:41 am
Well i guess a 2.0 rotary will have power like 4.0 and fc like 6.0?
September 21, 2007 @ 9:42 am
Well.. in the previous RX-7 the rotary engine really drink fuel like water.. but in the RX-8 they manage to redesign the engine to more better FC, that why they name is the first generation of renesis engine.. Dont believe? check for wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_Wankel_engine
“The RENESIS engine – also 13B-MSP, for Multi Side Port –, which first appeared in production in the 2003 Mazda RX-8, is an evolution of the previous 13B. It was designed to reduce exhaust emission and improve fuel economy, which were two of the most recurrent drawbacks of rotary engines.”
“These and other innovative technologies allow the RENESIS to achieve 49% higher output and dramatically reduced fuel consumption and emissions (the RX-8 meets LEV-II). It won International Engine of the Year and Best New Engine awards 2003 and also holds the “2.5 to 3 liter” size award for 2003 and 2004, where it is considered a 2.60 L engine. Finally, it was on the Ward’s 10 Best Engines list for 2004 and 2005.
The RENESIS has also been adapted for a dual-fuel use, allowing it to run either on gasoline or hydrogen.”
September 21, 2007 @ 10:03 am
Exciting news indeed! We can only wonder what will be the output of the new engine if they are already milking so much power out of the 1.3L! I don’t think I’ll be wrong to label the 13B as an engineering marvel, alongside the legendary RB26DETT, after all, it’s been powering generations of rotary rockets and putting much larger engines to shame in the process. This is the little engine that could. A diesel rotary might be reality one day too, considering most automakers are going that way.
September 21, 2007 @ 10:09 am
New RENESIS II will be on new 4th gen Mazda RX-7, not on RX-8.
Sport car not always consumed much on petrol. RX-8 average can get around 7 to 8km per liter, I don’t think it has high FC. When you have a car with more than 200hp, you still expect it would have FC like 1.5L car?
I guess the new 4th gen RX-7 is on 1.5L RENESIS II with about 300hp.
Zoom Zoom…
September 21, 2007 @ 10:27 am
7-8km/liter…demn…tats a 6750cc v12 rolls royce fc
September 21, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
RR? Do you see any on the road?
September 21, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
I seen 1 in Penang, i think is RR corniche.. Rumoured is own by MBF group chairman…
September 21, 2007 @ 11:48 pm
have anyone saw rr phantom in malaysia?
September 22, 2007 @ 12:47 am
WTF does Mazda rotary engine does wif RR?
September 22, 2007 @ 1:55 am
Sorry.. talking nonsense while waiting for new topic from paul.
Actually someone said rotary fc about 7-8km/liter…tats about the same with RR phantom v12 6750cc fc….and etc etc
izit true btw
September 22, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
If you drive a sport car like RX-8 or super luxury car like RR, do you still think what is the FC?
Zoom Zoom…
September 24, 2007 @ 12:42 am
I really scare of the emission regulation… Normally if the car FC really worst.. the emission will fail & cannot be sale in their country. Coz some country may think that this 1.3L engine category really drinks water… That why RX-8 & MX-5 sells more in foreign country, especially US market…
September 25, 2007 @ 9:07 am
littlefire85, that is a wrong statement if you’re saying that the rx8 and mx5 sold more in usa because their emission regulation is not too strict. in fact, the regulations in california is the strictest in the world, thanks to CARB. if you can sell a car in california, you can practically sell it anywhere. for the rx8, the power output for usa model is different from the jdm model because of the stricter regulations. i can still remember when the car first launched there, the customers were crying foul when independent dyno test revealed that the cars were producing less than advertised horsepower, which prompted mazda to offer customers to buy back their car or some discounts if what i am remembering is correct. besides in us, for the fuel consumption of a 1.3L rotary engine will probably be considered ok because they are used to the big v8 engine. also in usa, there is tax that you have to pay according to your car’s fuel consumption, can’t remember what is the name of the tax.
September 25, 2007 @ 2:33 pm
My statement wrong? US market are 1 of the most selling sport car in the world. California is just a state, well how about others? If i not mistaken some country take it as 2.6L… I think the spec in US have more output then the JDM. Check for it man… The JDM some may have turbo or supercharge, but those are not factory fitted. If US are so strict, why does bush don’t want to sign the environment agreement? And still supporting the GM & Ford to produce big block engine? Anywayz i just mention IF!
September 25, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
LittleFire85, do copy this link, download and read the article, by ford. on the first page, look at the table. it would answer you. i am just want to clarify things up.
media.ford.com/pdf/rotary3_e.pdf
September 25, 2007 @ 5:34 pm
Ok thx.