The Saga is the latest model to join Proton Australia’s line-up, selling Down Under as the Proton S16. As its name suggests, the S16 is powered by the 110 bhp 1.6-litre Campro IAFM engine paired to a five-speed manual ‘box.
Its drive away retail price of $11,990 makes it the lowest priced new car in Australia. Before launch, Proton billed the S16 as the cheapest sedan in the market, but latest currency exchange rates have given the S16 an even stronger selling point.
The auto version will debut shortly while July 2010 will see the introduction a GXR variant that adds dual airbags, ABS, alloys, reverse sensors and fog lamps to the kit list.
It’s clearly a very good deal, but since the Saga’s looks aren’t exactly what you’d call pretty, Proton Australia has signed on Miss Universe Australia 2009 Rachael Finch for some “look at me” appeal. She will be featured in all S16 ads in Australia. A clearer view of the lovely Miss Finch is available after the jump!
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The baseline doesnt do justice to Saga for me. Proton should introduce the highline model in it main ads in Aussie
No. 1
I know what people are gonna say…”Proton cheating malaysians, offer better spec car overseas, bla bla bla…”
both are beautiful…. congrats Proton!
Usually, the car will be more appealing than the model girl, but this one….it fail to make me do that.
Proton, need more styling to the car next time.
$11,990 = RM3XXXX?
wow!! i love this…miss finch!
why not put subaru impreza bodykit..
last time 1.6 model (limited edition same like this one) cost rm39k at malaysia..
better save the money and pour it into R&D…. that is if Proton has a R&D to begin with…
whooooaa.!! what the..
1st
nazri said,
December 24, 2009 @ 1:59 pm
why not put subaru impreza bodykit..
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bcoz ppl will say copycat…
U put Miss Finch…. Ull get better WOW factor
Buy 1 Saga get 1 Finch .. I ll take the Finch not the Saga
fuhh… nice girl but too thin..haha
They should run a contest, buy an S16 and you’ll stand a chance to go on a holiday with Miss Finch.
i’ve uploaded the TVAD of that Australian Miss Saga here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMBbhFF3dc4
If I’m not mistake…for certain fuel consumption cycle, the 1.6L is much more fuel efficient in 1.3L. this is due to engine straining for the smaller displacement to achieve power. so S16 might be more fuel efficient than our own shore’s Saga!
what a lame marketing strategy. it would be better to improve the car instead of signing these things… :S
when the car is better, the car itself speaks for itself! n things comes automatically…
dog said,
December 24, 2009 @ 2:42 pm
what a lame marketing strategy. it would be better to improve the car instead of signing these things… :S
when the car is better, the car itself speaks for itself! n things comes automatically…
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It’s a new car. What do you expect? They need to do this to introduce the car to the public. Once the public knows about the car then the car’s quality come into play.
If i were Sister of islam or other NGO’s I surely opposed this move. too good i’m not.
when proton sells low spec car to international market we call proton menganak tirikan malaysia…. aiyoo susah mahu faham lah malaysian people….
If you got money dont read about proton lah.. read lah about bently ker.. jaguar ker.. messerati ker…. when car prices at 100k they said pretty.. just look at Jazz priced at 90k… no one bother to bashed that car.. a K Car model with t he price of normal sedan.. pikir lah sendiri
The Finch is gud, the car is…..
gua kalau surh pilih kereta atau perempuan…
errr….kali ni gua pilih perempuan….uhuk!!
more pic please..hheehe..not S16 but Miss Finch..hehe
Yup, All Malaysian already knew that Proton sell better equip spec to oversea. Just look at those Previos Saga, UK spec Saga get Fuel Injection system with Lancer dashboard. How about UK spec Wira? The Waja/Impian which tested in EURONCAP also got 4 air-bags…
If not of the special edition they sell in Malaysia, i think a lot will not know it also…
Tiadaid just let the cat out of the bag itself.. lolz
but azrai, this “MOVE” is not for our market lor…
taboogen
Please read this before commenting.. Jazz is not in Kei car category..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_car
Their car is expensive due to tax… If price the same as Gen.2, which car u buy?
australians are dumb. thats why they live on the wrong side of the world
gxr version with dual airbags, abs…
we malaysian deserve this in the first place
proton should launch proton SE or called it LE, with all the SE features and put in 1.6 AIFM with manual and auto gear box. Anybody turbo-charged 1.3 Saga here?
taboogen said,
December 24, 2009 @ 2:51 pm
when proton sells low spec car to international market we call proton menganak tirikan malaysia…. aiyoo susah mahu faham lah malaysian people….
If you got money dont read about proton lah.. read lah about bently ker.. jaguar ker.. messerati ker…. when car prices at 100k they said pretty.. just look at Jazz priced at 90k… no one bother to bashed that car.. a K Car model with t he price of normal sedan.. pikir lah sendiri
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jazz over price becoz over and over tax by malaysia goverment… did u know??
sokong Tiadaid……mmg betul…kat sini jual mahal tp kete cam barai je..kat sana kete murah tp fullspec lg….apa citer nie..????
This is Beauty And the Beast…LOL
“It’s clearly a very good deal, but since the Saga’s looks aren’t exactly what you’d call pretty, Proton Australia has signed on Miss Universe Australia 2009 Rachael Finch for some “look at me” appeal.”
the best paragraph in the article paul. lol!
perhaps proton can design an exterior body mural of miss australia instead of the old ugly stripes that used to adorn proton cars of the past.
1. There’s nothing wrong with hiring a hot model. EVERYTHING — including cars — that is being sold is, most of the time, advertised with a good-looking female (even when not needed). So to those who are complaining about this marketing ploy, just shut up and be thought an idiot rather than speak and remove all doubt.
2. Everyone should stop complaining about car prices and taxes in Malaysia IN THIS BLOG. EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT THEM AND EVERYONE KNOWS WHY CARS ARE EXPENSIVE HERE. There’s not much you can do about it right now. All the Proton bashers do not hate/dislike Proton — they hate/dislike the government. This blog is about cars, not politics.
3. However, I agree that the Saga with the above-mentioned specifications SHOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE to the Malaysian public IN Malaysia. It might eat up into other Proton models, but if the volume of sales for Saga can be increased, why not?
Tiadaid said,
It’s a new car. What do you expect? They need to do this to introduce the car to the public. Once the public knows about the car then the car’s quality come into play.
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LOL, Australia already had a few proton model there already….
It doesnt need a GENIUS to tell them the QUALITY of Proton !!!!
1.6 for under RM40K & we pay that much for the1.3. It make our blood boil everytime you see Proton mocked the rakyat oversea. They think we still live in a coconut shell & read under an oil lamp!! Time to give Proton a good kick on the backside! Every Proton car sold oversea is subsidised by Rakyat 1Malaysia….
Aussie are Proton crazy. They gave good reviews for Arena and featured the Satria Neo on Top Gear Australia.
kimi_ said,
December 24, 2009 @ 3:48 pm
This is Beauty And the Beast…LOL
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ha’ah, macam langit dan bumi
with the 1.3 Saga SE selling for 45K, what are the chances of a 1.6L M-Line Auto selling for <50K?
poor thing. pity ms finch being associated with this car. kekekeke.
littlefire said,
December 24, 2009 @ 3:11 pm
Yup, All Malaysian already knew that Proton sell better equip spec to oversea. Just look at those Previos Saga, UK spec Saga get Fuel Injection system with Lancer dashboard. How about UK spec Wira? The Waja/Impian which tested in EURONCAP also got 4 air-bags…
If not of the special edition they sell in Malaysia, i think a lot will not know it also…
Tiadaid just let the cat out of the bag itself.. lolz
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Toyota Daihatsu also Downgrade their car to PErodua what…
ProtonSagaDriver said,
2. Everyone should stop complaining about car prices and taxes in Malaysia IN THIS BLOG. EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT THEM AND EVERYONE KNOWS WHY CARS ARE EXPENSIVE HERE. There’s not much you can do about it right now. All the Proton bashers do not hate/dislike Proton — they hate/dislike the government. This blog is about cars, not politics.
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You’re WRONG! Proton is a GLC (GOVERNMENT-LINKED CORPORATIONS). Proton bashers (like me) hate Proton AND the government not for who they are but for what they are doing to us automotive consumers. While I do admit not all Proton bashers hate the government, I do believe people feel mistreated and helpless. And if you feel there is nothing that can be done, you’re WRONG again. The way is through votings and the general elections.
Regards.
Adrian Lim
We are proud that this all new saga sold in Australia > the sad story……….all malaysia get cheap saga with less safety feature but those mat salleh got the best offer from proton with also cheap price >> always double standard maaa…
is proton cheaper in Ausie becouse the tax is lower than Malaysia?
diff from local..be minority? maybe local ausie distributor demand the good spec
O lala….nice chick!!
Mat Salleh are not ‘forced’ to buy Proton since they can choose other cars as well. I think what Proton is doing is similar to what Korean did when they first enter the US market. They were selling Hyundai’s at a loss of USD1,000 per car just to gain the market share. Look at where they are now.
pundek la proton!
Jangan jeles ah
Kamyongkai said,
December 24, 2009 @ 5:12 pm
ProtonSagaDriver said,
2. Everyone should stop complaining about car prices and taxes in Malaysia IN THIS BLOG. EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT THEM AND EVERYONE KNOWS WHY CARS ARE EXPENSIVE HERE. There’s not much you can do about it right now. All the Proton bashers do not hate/dislike Proton — they hate/dislike the government. This blog is about cars, not politics.
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You’re WRONG! Proton is a GLC (GOVERNMENT-LINKED CORPORATIONS). Proton bashers (like me) hate Proton AND the government not for who they are but for what they are doing to us automotive consumers. While I do admit not all Proton bashers hate the government, I do believe people feel mistreated and helpless. And if you feel there is nothing that can be done, you’re WRONG again. The way is through votings and the general elections.
Regards.
Adrian Lim
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youre also WRONG – GLC = Government Linked Company… aiyah.. skolah mana itu?
Quattro said,
December 24, 2009 @ 5:14 pm
We are proud that this all new saga sold in Australia > the sad story……….all malaysia get cheap saga with less safety feature but those mat salleh got the best offer from proton with also cheap price >> always double standard maaa…
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Double standard? Ko cakap laa dgn kerajaan kita. diorang yg tak enforce utk mewajibkan penggunaan ABS. FYI, lotus ride & handling pun salah satu ciri keselamatan dalam pemanduan. bukan semata2 brek je. Kang taruk ABS, naik harga sket, ko membebel. kalu nak cari yg ada ABS, ko beli laa Persona H Line atau apa2 keta2 lain yg ada ABD. Setiap negara ada regulations kalau kereta nak masuk market diorang. Contoh nya, kadar emission. Malaysia – Euro 2, Thailand – Euro 3, Australia – Euro 4 (tak silap).
Pastu dah Australian Govmt says that every cars in Australia must have ABS, Airbags, etc. Nak masuk market punye pasal, kene laa ikut peraturan. mcm nak masuk umah orang la. kalau masuk umah orang melayu, kene bukak kasut. kalau umah orang putih, tak yah bukak kasut. camtu la brader! Tak paham2 lagi laa. Semua claim diri sendiri tu mcm tahu sgt pasal automotive ni, padahal semua poyo je lebey! Belah ar! Poser punye Basher!
buang sampah pun merata-rata, ada hati nk brg 1st class..kasi up kepala hotak tu dulu laaa…ceh!..
supports malaysian!
Proton’s selling point in the advertisements shown in Australia is 6 CUP HOLDERS!
Bloody impressive proton!
ABS for the australian market. How ironic is that. Is there no way to get ABS for our local market? No? Hello? Proton? are you listening? I WANT MY ABS BRAKES!!! At least make it an upgrade option
Menyampah. said,
December 24, 2009 @ 6:17 pm
buang sampah pun merata-rata, ada hati nk brg 1st class..kasi up kepala hotak tu dulu laaa…ceh!..
supports malaysian!
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i like this one…
Kamyongkai said,
December 24, 2009 @ 5:12 pm
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You’re WRONG! Proton is a GLC (GOVERNMENT-LINKED CORPORATIONS). Proton bashers (like me) hate Proton AND the government not for who they are but for what they are doing to us automotive consumers. While I do admit not all Proton bashers hate the government, I do believe people feel mistreated and helpless. And if you feel there is nothing that can be done, you’re WRONG again. The way is through votings and the general elections.
Regards.
Adrian Lim
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Go ahead Adrian BASH, BASH like there’s no tomorrow. May your next life throw a better life and an affordable Toyota/Honda at you…….. NOT! xD
fuck proton la, y dual airbags?????? we only get only one for highest spec here, and none below that! 1.6 litre variant in malaysia gets none aswell, and its “limited edition” kononnya
littlefire said,
December 24, 2009 @ 3:11 pm
Tiadaid just let the cat out of the bag itself.. lolz
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Yeah, save all you bashers time, since it’s standard operating procedure for ALL carmakers, not just Proton. Bashers just don’t seem to get that
Soo… annoying… nak barang standard 1st class.. tapi suma nak harga kalau bleh suma murah tahap cipan…merepek pasal NAP, politics…everytime berkenaan proton, ada ajer yg tunjuk pandai.. macam tau jer pasal automotive… Tak patut ada NAP.. g la propose kat gov… korg nyer idealogi… belum tentu bleh pakai pn…
Look, you have to keep in mind that the market here is very different to the Malaysian market. Proton wants to get in cheap and use that as their selling point- something which Hyundai did many years ago with their Excel (which also was about $12k aud). Whilst the equipment spec may seem high to you guys because you have the full range of Saga’s available, due to transportation and logistics costs, it’s cheaper to have a single model available in Australia. Furthermore, it’s also vital that Proton meet Australian safety requirements which are somewhat strict (and this is even listed as a selling point on http://www.s16.com.au !).
I’d imagine it’s cheap in Australia because they are willing to accept thinner profit margins in order to maintain the tagline of cheapest sedan in Australia and in exchange they expect to generate considerably more sales.
Kereta Juga Superseded MYVi – you are a funny person. First you complain she’s too slim then you ask for more pics. Google isn’t far away you know.
I presume you are also smart enough to understand how economic protectionism works and why the big manufacturers from abroad establish local operations using different branding in order to circumvent (or comply with) the protection measures.
OKla tu,nak get popular is not easy ma.kalau KIA masuk kereta ke Msia pun,bagi yg high grade pada harga yg murah.so conclusionnye,kalau nak export brg ke oversea,kena bagi yg bagus ma!kalau tak,org xnak beli
More people will look at the girl than the car
Just FYI,
Proton – A$11,990/unit
Yaris – A$15,990/unit
Corolla – A$21,990/unit
Kia Rio – A$13,490/unit
Kia Cerato – A$19,490/unit
HK Duck Rice – A$9/plate
Within the A$10,000 range (1000 plate of Duck Rice), there is a lot of options. Now you see the competitive of market.
If you compare the rate of living in Malaysia, will you spend 1000 plate of Duck Rice money more to buy a Corolla over a Proton?
Good Luck Proton. Wish you success anyhow. At least I have seen 1 Waja on the street (parking lot actually) throughout my visit to Australia.
Opps forget to mentions..if for the Patriotic Australian..
Holden Barina – A$13,990
I think we need to understand “put on the market” does not equal to being “sold”…that is crucial facts we need to learn, since a lot of supporter is happy that we got products “put on the market”, but forget it is “sold” or not. With that, we can keep improve ourselves to compete.
Let us improve together with Proton, don’t proud to be “put on market”, we need to be proud to be “sold”. Or else, we are keep producing products that is not wanted by the market and waste a lot of time…and investor (aka Gov) money.
S16 sounds so much better than saga!
the car not nice and the girl not pretty also!!!!
errr karipap I think the main issue being brought forward by the bashers is the price of the car. For the spec. offered the price is RM32373!!!! Ko bagitau kat aku ada kerr toyota estima kat luar jepan lebih murah dari dalam negara Jepun?? Ini laa yang dikatakan anak kera di hutan di susu kan tapi anak sendiri mati kelaparan. lu pikirrr laaaa sendiri…..
p.s. last time when wira was exported to UK the power window supplier was from a different company (better grade & quality) and that is why kat UK proton tak ada problem power window.
Menyampah. said,
buang sampah pun merata-rata, ada hati nk brg 1st class..kasi up kepala hotak tu dulu laaa…ceh!..
supports malaysian!
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Haha. Exactly!
apa lagi..boycott proton…beli japanese car even the tax make tke price high..
banned proton…ban! ban!
Dulu aku pakai Saga, Iswara, Satria baru, Gen2 baru.. semua tak boleh harap! cam celaka. Skrg dah 2 tahun pakai Toyota 2nd hand… aman damai. Rugi tak beli dari dulu… Konon nak patriotik! pooodahhh
petmos said,
December 24, 2009 @ 3:44 pm
sokong Tiadaid……mmg betul…kat sini jual mahal tp kete cam barai je..kat sana kete murah tp fullspec lg….apa citer nie..????
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Selagi pesaing seperti P2 produce kereta cam barai, selagi tu la P1 spec pun pun cam barai…
Well done Proton!!… Australian market is not bad mah..
Japanese carmakers always keep the best for their people..agree? why proton dont do this to malaysians? sebab tu x berkat….nak berkat buat yg terbaik rakyat sendiri la…
Bash some more…
You choose to stay in malaysia…
You choose to work in malaysia…
You choose to live under the system of malaysia…
You choose to suffer in malaysia…
So, you face the consequences of still being in Malaysia… because it is your choice…
Then, who’s fault it is? Who to blame when you cant get the stuff that you want while you still in the place that you dont want?
Think!
Will you answer…
There’s only so much that designers can do if a car is not built from scratch. For a car that is based on existing platform, the new Saga is not bad at all. Fitted with right bodykit, it will hug the road… reminds me of Fiat Ritmo Abarth.
Kamyongkai said,
December 24, 2009 @ 5:12 pm
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You’re WRONG! Proton is a GLC (GOVERNMENT-LINKED CORPORATIONS). Proton bashers (like me) hate Proton AND the government not for who they are but for what they are doing to us automotive consumers. While I do admit not all Proton bashers hate the government, I do believe people feel mistreated and helpless. And if you feel there is nothing that can be done, you’re WRONG again. The way is through votings and the general elections.
Regards.
Adrian Lim
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Menyampah. said,
buang sampah pun merata-rata, ada hati nk brg 1st class..kasi up kepala hotak tu dulu laaa…ceh!..
supports malaysian!
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Wahahaha! that is so true..some also worth mentioning bro:-
-not wearing seatbelts
-speeding more than 110km/h, illegal weekend race
-overtaking at double lines
-use dark tinted
-not wearing helmets
-not wearing straps even when wearing helmets
-park at handicapped parking lots
-park without paying parking fee
-trying to bribe PBTs for not paying parking fee
-double park n block other car’s exit without mercy
-illegal discos/pub/gambling
-china dolls
-bribe (givers/takers)
-forge passport, I/C, road tax, marriage with china dolls etc
-illegal drugs traficking, ecstacy etc
-ah longs
-evade tax
-illegal timbering
-cut queues during toll paying
-mark up price 300% from initial cost
-buy/sell pirated dvds / softwares
-watch , surf, distribute porn..
-smuggling petrol, rice, or any subsidized stuffs, endangered species, owh!
and humans too
and the list goes on..yet we are talking bout integrity and gud governance??hahaha..what a joke Malaysians are!!
Car look beter than the girl, girl sucked.
I just want ABS brakes option for my brand new Saga. That’s all. I don’t give darn about the airbags. I’m quite upset to see Australians having a chance to get it, while Proton will not even offer it as an option or a ‘highline’ spec. Offer jer option. Apa susah. Tak pun jual as after market option under R3 or something. Pakai airbag, sekali jer pastu hancus. ABS is always there to save your sorry arse. Time and time again. BTW, Proton Saga quality is top notch for a car at that price, be it in AU or MY. Don’t complain too much about quality if you don’t know how to judge it.
The best part of the promotion would be the model.
Hopefully can attract students in universities and young adults in the workforce to buy.
1.6 lit manual………if it can move the big Exora, this one must be one fast car.
Good try.
GLC…….Good Luck Cat…….Merry X Mas. The model would look nice in a santa rina suit.
adrian, for sure if you go to an interview of glc companies, they will “tendang you” haha..sekolah mana lah you ni..thats why dont over marah2 so that people wont know your stupidity..
anyway yes agree, like beauty n the beast..hehe..like the miss
To patriotik kepala lutut
ko beli Toyota berapa harga
ko beli proton berapa harga
dah murah kualiti pun murah bodoh
aku ingat kau ni salesman Toyota agaknya
selalunya salesman perodua je kat sini
Malaysia memamg boleh said,
December 24, 2009 @ 11:18 pm
To patriotik kepala lutut
ko beli Toyota berapa harga
ko beli proton berapa harga
dah murah kualiti pun murah bodoh
aku ingat kau ni salesman Toyota agaknya
selalunya salesman perodua je kat sini
Encik “Malaysia memamg boleh”, awak pakai kereta apa? Boleh berkongsi cerita dgn semua yang ada kat sini?
AMMAR ZOLKIPLI…
ABS will be standard equipment for all ne car in msia’ starting sept 2010…
The cute looking model is not suits at all with that not so gud looking saga =)
bpkid said,
December 24, 2009 @ 11:37 pm
Malaysia memamg boleh said,
December 24, 2009 @ 11:18 pm
To patriotik kepala lutut
ko beli Toyota berapa harga
ko beli proton berapa harga
dah murah kualiti pun murah bodoh
aku ingat kau ni salesman Toyota agaknya
selalunya salesman perodua je kat sini
Encik “Malaysia memamg boleh”, awak pakai kereta apa? Boleh berkongsi cerita dgn semua yang ada kat sini?
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UNTUK pengetahuan kau ,aku ade merc e240 2001,toyota avanza dan iswara lama
pasal toyota avanza ni,interior dalam bagi aku tak memuaskan dengan harga yang aku bayar,3rd row pun sempit,kadang2 nak balik kampung,terpaksa letak beg dengan penumpang di 3rd row,aircon vent 2nd row pun tak memuaskan,bila aku kadang2 duduk 3rd row,rase tengah naik roller coaster pun ade gak,sedih tengok passanger tengah 2nd row,sebab xde headrest…..to pendapat aku,tak tahu kat luar sana
merc e240 pun bolehlah,iswara aku cuma bagi problem lepas 10 tahun aku guna,so itu yang aku nak kongsi sedikit
masalh betul kau ni,aku tengah nak cakap sikit kat patriotik kepala lutut kau pulak nak tanye kete apa aku ade,dah tak de hidup sampai nak tanye apa kete aku ade
Very beautiful!!! The girl model, that is…
The car is NOT beautiful at all….
proton ok,yang menjadi masalah,vendor yang diberi tanggungjawab untuk menghasilkan part untuk proton
satu lagi aku dengar sesetengah part engine campro dihasilkan perodua,adakah mereka yang menyumbangkan masalah kepada enjin campro yang kadang kala,bermasalah
the car makes the girl look even uglier than her normal self. talk about dragging people down.
focus on making good cars first la, save money on these marketing gimmicks.
we condemn proton cars is NOT bcs its a malaysian brand, its because we are frustrated of what proton is doing, (after sales services, quality etc etc), i would love to drive a proton for the sake of being patriotic, but quality and reliability, and good sales service must come first. to drive proton because one wanna be or show patriotism is nothing less than an excuse
aku da gne satria selama 11 tahun dan sepanjang aku gne kete tu da 4 kali aku tukar motor power window n the result always same…rosak!!!fcuk!!!!!!
the only all thing is like beauty and the biases what all about just westing country wellness for such idiot marketing promotion , brainless thinking of way to do marketing, do there think australian was idiot like there are !
if saga 1.6 probally the car need some uprated suspension this car has a batter acceleration and might be driven fast. to handle this it need stiffer foot. and 15 incher with low profile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMBbhFF3dc4
ad,
petmos…
maybe the rootcause is not the power window motor…becoz… 4 times change… and not everybody facing the same problem as yours…
hot model but the car is the opposite of it…
mmg org msia, mana2 je mesti nak komplen nak gaduh. tp best. very entertaining. malaysian 1001. hahaha. cheers!! merry xmas and a happy new year.
again n again n again n again n again n again n again n again……Proton did it. I hate Proton. Not that i complain about car tax and want to buy a fancy imported car, but MY SAGA also more expensive than other country. 1 MALAYSIA, MALAYSIA BOLEH, HIDUP PROTON.
LOL @ the people who criticise the girl’s looks… I don’t think that’s the point, but if anyone really did want to argue on it, clearly she is favoured in the target market of Australia based on her status as Miss Australia… it doesn’t really matter if she doesn’t appeal to people in other countries as she’s only used to advertise in Australia.
The truth about Proton/Modenas and its vendor. Some vendor don’t even have a factory or even a small workshop and they can get the tender to supply to Proton/Modenas. They just earn quick bucks and sub out the job after getting the tender. Sometimes they so desperate to sub out the job they even ask any chap ayam workshop under the tree to do the job. I have someone knocking on my door asking me to do some painting job. Said 300 unit, i reject cause i only operate under three workshop, then he ask me 30 boleh? WTF????
Errmm… can we actually get DSZ to enlighten us why Proton cars are cheaper abroad and better-equipped too?
For the car to look good, you must think you are not malaysian.
For the car to look good, you must think you are not malaysian or the car was not made by malaysian.
dont look so universe standing next to saga….
After 10% import duty and 10% GST in Australia and it still selling cheaper than Malaysia 39K. 100% + 10% +10% + 5% (shipping) plus other fees = RM36K, remove all those tax, i bet Proton declared car as RM28K the most at Australian custom .
So, Proton manufactured their cars here in Malaysia 100% and yet consumers are paying more for it? Sales tax is in OK, what other tax you recon? None existent import duty from Tg Malim to dealer?! Transportation fees? transporter that carries at least 6 cars to dealer only cost way below RM1K!
Don’t know what to say already…LOL
car prices in malaysia are all political and cronies influnced. dont blame DSZ or proton.
Alza is make in malaysia but then it is far more expensive then original made in japan. remember, the labour cost and other cost in jap is far more then in malaysia.
so conclusion, find out who make rakyat pay for high price and not pointing finger at any company as this will not solve the problem.
yippi33 said,
December 24, 2009 @ 10:03 pm
Wahahaha! that is so true..some also worth mentioning bro:-
-not wearing seatbelts
-speeding more than 110km/h, illegal weekend race
-overtaking at double lines
-use dark tinted
-not wearing helmets
-not wearing straps even when wearing helmets
-park at handicapped parking lots
-park without paying parking fee
-trying to bribe PBTs for not paying parking fee
-double park n block other car’s exit without mercy
-illegal discos/pub/gambling
-china dolls
-bribe (givers/takers)
-forge passport, I/C, road tax, marriage with china dolls etc
-illegal drugs traficking, ecstacy etc
-ah longs
-evade tax
-illegal timbering
-cut queues during toll paying
-mark up price 300% from initial cost
-buy/sell pirated dvds / softwares
-watch , surf, distribute porn..
-smuggling petrol, rice, or any subsidized stuffs, endangered species, owh!
and humans too
and the list goes on..yet we are talking bout integrity and gud governance??hahaha..what a joke Malaysians are!!
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Hahaha…… all true….. 1 finger pointed to other but 4 finger pointed back to us…..
Menyampah. said,
December 24, 2009 @ 6:17 pm
buang sampah pun merata-rata, ada hati nk brg 1st class..kasi up kepala hotak tu dulu laaa…ceh!..
supports malaysian!
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great! tq..
hey check this out
http://www.redbook.com.au/new-cars/details.aspx?R=537106&Cr=0&__Ns=p_Make_String|0||p_ClassificationType_String|0||p_Family_String|0||p_Year_String|1||p_SequenceNum_Int32|0&__N=2994%202951%204294945226%204294754416%204294848214&silo=1301&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=1&__sid=125C6A543EB0
the price stated 11990 BUT
it’s just a price guide
Price Guide – refers to the price provided to us by a manufacturer for a vehicle and excludes costs, such as options, dealer delivery, stamp duty, and other government charges, that may apply. Always check the single figure price with the seller of a vehicle before purchasing.
Meaning without gst like someone post before
Proton will ever go down if still cheating rakyats money….100%
Proton – A$11,990/unit
Yaris – A$15,990/unit
Corolla – A$21,990/unit
Kia Rio – A$13,490/unit
Holden Barina – A$13,990 /unit
Kia Cerato – A$19,490/unit
If you think you can get a 3 door Yaris for $15990 you are dreaming. They really start at $19,000 once OTR costs are factored in… you’re not going to drive a new yaris without insurance! A midrange 5 door Yaris Sedan costs closer to AUD23k for the auto version OTR. I know this cuz I actually went car shopping in australia not too long ago.
Im not exactly sure what “drive away” price means, but if I recall correctly it includes govt charges such as plates, registration and tax where applicable. “Drive away” as your car is legal on the road. I dont think it includes delivery charges (factory to dealer) that is around AUD1500 from SEA…as it varies by state (ie. Sydney is much further than Darwin from malaysia). Also note that insurance is not mandatory. Price inclusive of comprehensive insurance is likely to be about AUD1200 more for your average 25yo/m driver. Nobody drives a new car without insurance!!
Hence the real OTR cost (inclusive 3rd party insurance and dealer delivery) of the australian 1.6 saga should be closer to about AUD14,000 (RM42,000). I have not seen Proton cars cheaper anywhere around the world compared to malaysia**.
Proton genuinely makes cheap cars. And I think the new saga will be competitive against the other cars in it’s class, namely the Hyundai Getz and Kia Rio. Looks wise, it simply looks a hell lot better than any car for a similar price and has five doors and a proper boot. Im sure if Mercedes made a budget A class sedan that looked exactly like the Saga everyone would be praising it’s looks. Cut the bias pls.. It’s a freaking cheap car that has decent looks, an achievement by itself.
**excluding oil rich gulf states where tax is absent (yes proton pays tax in malaysia too), registration is free, and insurance not compulsory.
i think proton is broke even after 25 years in business, thats y theyre still doing this sorta thing. mind u, their horrible mitsubishi-sourced “old” gearbox is still being used eversince wira came out in 1991, u know the lambat naik gear thing, it only changes gear at high revs or if u drive below 60 it changes to 3rd gear by itself. haha. pity the engineers at proton, studying hard for engineering courses but lowly paid.
mat saleh tu x malu ke dok sblh kreta nie??
x ssuai la
initial R said,
December 25, 2009 @ 11:14 am
yippi33 said,
December 24, 2009 @ 10:03 pm
Wahahaha! that is so true..some also worth mentioning bro:-
-not wearing seatbelts
-speeding more than 110km/h, illegal weekend race
-overtaking at double lines
-use dark tinted
-not wearing helmets
-not wearing straps even when wearing helmets
-park at handicapped parking lots
-park without paying parking fee
-trying to bribe PBTs for not paying parking fee
-double park n block other car’s exit without mercy
-illegal discos/pub/gambling
-china dolls
-bribe (givers/takers)
-forge passport, I/C, road tax, marriage with china dolls etc
-illegal drugs traficking, ecstacy etc
-ah longs
-evade tax
-illegal timbering
-cut queues during toll paying
-mark up price 300% from initial cost
-buy/sell pirated dvds / softwares
-watch , surf, distribute porn..
-smuggling petrol, rice, or any subsidized stuffs, endangered species, owh!
and humans too
and the list goes on..yet we are talking bout integrity and gud governance??hahaha..what a joke Malaysians are!!
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Hahaha…… all true….. 1 finger pointed to other but 4 finger pointed back to us….
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Muahahahaha. Typical Malaysians.
You reap what you sow.
how many kancil sold there?
how many rusa sold there?
how many kenari sold there?
how many kelisa sold there?
how many kembara sold there?
how many myvi sold there?
how many viva sold there?
how many nautica sold there?
how many PERODUA sold in Thailand?
.
.
.
.
dunno? Nevermind..
Ammar Zolkipli said,
December 24, 2009 @ 7:09 pm
ABS for the australian market. How ironic is that. Is there no way to get ABS for our local market? No? Hello? Proton? are you listening? I WANT MY ABS BRAKES!!! At least make it an upgrade option
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u can choose persona H-line, gen2 H-line, savvy H-line, neo H-line don la pick B n M-line..u can get ABS, EBD….ok wat..i suggest proton produce 1 line for each model…H-line only…all wan those active safety feature wat
Phuck Proton, but also phuck the idiots who hate Proton and keep on giving vote to MCA,MIC and UMNO. You don’t like Proton, next election don’t vote for Proton.
Proton = BN’s money making scheme!
Jack Hammer,
Daihatsu & Toyota the parent company does sell a lot of mini compact cars there, so why want to sell Perodua in Australia?
I felt sorry for Proton supporter as they cant even get the best just like the Japs in their country… Even Thai get CPS engine first compare to us.. When they are frustrated, they will just use Perodua to distract the attention.
Yup, Perodua also sucks in this country due to only one competitor to fight.. As they are forced to lower their quality to be on par to sell in this country.. Still their sales seems going strong..
If compare the other 1, they should have give the people better spec first before selling it to others just like JDM people doing it. The excuse is that people dont like this & that.. add cost bla bla bla… But how come the price not so expensive in Aus with added spec? Funny…
But what i can say is that, the unfair competitive market have eat our people’s money just to make better cars for other… If everyone is selling open market price, i think long time ago Saga will be in full spec selling this kind of price to fight against Hyundai accent , i30 or other same pricing car in Malaysia.. So, if you still dont like the way we have for 50 years. Just remember to change it in a few years time. Time to wake up brothers & sister, we are not babies anymore.. Remember during 2007 they mention about abolish NAP? Until 2010 also still delaying…
1. Kereta Juga Superseded MYVi said,
youre also WRONG – GLC = Government Linked Company… aiyah.. skolah mana itu?
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http://www.abbreviations.com/GLC
idiot.
2. arch747 said,
Go ahead Adrian BASH, BASH like there’s no tomorrow. May your next life throw a better life and an affordable Toyota/Honda at you…….. NOT! xD
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Bashing is hobby of mine. Thank u.
3. yippi33 said,
and the list goes on..yet we are talking bout integrity and gud governance??hahaha..what a joke Malaysians are!!
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We Malaysians are one of the best jokes (not jokers) in the world. I agree to that. Hahahaha! But I love this country anyway!
Aku rasa baik ditutup terus jer Proton ni. Membazir jer. Lagi pun Proton ni kan projek Mahathir nak mengkayakan penyokong-penyokong UMNO pada masa tu dengan bagi tender kat vendor-vendor UMNO buat komponen untuk Proton. Tapi semua komponen yang dibekal kat Proton untuk pasaran tempatan, macam sampah sebab vendor-vendor UMNO ni semua tamak!!! Jadi, memang patut kita tak payah nak sokong Proton apatah lagi nak bangga. Korang bangga ke dengan jenama Proton? Patriotik ker dengan kualiti yang takde tapi rakyat kena beli dengan harga mahal? Patriotik kepala butolah!!!!
that kinda sucked..
we don’t have ABS as an option in our Saga..
No wonder there is still a lot of dumbass Malaysian here keep relating proton n bn.grow up malaysian,if proton is a gov project,why they don’t elect minister to be the CEO of proton,the problem is vendor,how do you all know that the vendor is umno member……Because this is Malaysia,we are not Japanese who already a legend in automotive,because we are lack of potential engineer,designer,because a lot of Malaysian out there can’t really help our economy to grow,jangan terlalu bergantung kepada orang luar untuk bina kereta untuk kita,kita tak akan majulah kalau macam tu,we have to compete with them.and just pray that our Malaysian carmaker will improve and hope that the coming generation will contribute to bring Malaysia further than what we had achieve now.tq.I hope my English is not to bad
this is a real ugly car
Damn some of my posts I made using Google Chrome did not make it through for some reason.
Anyway, drive-away pricing is literally drive-away pricing here. It’s inclusive of all taxes and dealer delivery charges. Under recent consumer law in Australia, all advertised prices must be all inclusive to the end consumer. This is a pain because each state is responsible for their own road taxes and hence the dealers in each state have to absorb any differences in margins as a result of higher taxes.
Insurance is compulsory here for third party (i.e. if you hit someone else). Comprehensive insurance is organised independently of the sale of the vehicle and is dependent on other factors (i.e. cost of repairs, person driving’s history, age, background, etc… where the car is parked primarily, primary usage of vehicle, etc). For example, my Civic FD1′s insurance is about 1/4 of the price of my Evo X’s insurance despite only driving the Evo on weekends.
Redbook is meant to be used to find out used car values by averaging private sale numbers so individuals can calculate the value of their car rather than arbitrarily using tax depreciation. This does not include GST for private sales as under Australian tax law, private vehicle sales do not attract GST liability but they may potentially constitute a capital asset disposal depending on the use of the vehicle during it’s period of ownership.
Coming back to the topic of pricing, keep in mind that not every company uses the cost+margin approach to pricing a product. It could very well be that Australian markets save money by only having a single model with single specification level and thus minimises the costs of getting it here. Then also consider they are trying to get a foothold into our market and need to price aggressively below what the competition is offering. As someone else posted above, a Yaris is only a few thousand aussie more (i.e. RM10k) and that is around one month’s wage on average earnings in Australia… so it’s important that Proton prices their car very aggressive to earn marketshare.
Even kangaroo hate, kick this stupid fugly outdated car.
kon-nek ko kat jari ke kat mulut?
Kenapa dengar org yg cakap mencarut? Lagi mencarut, lagi berdesing telinga kita dengar kan? Kalau dia mencarut, kau rasa cakap dia tu mesti tak betul kan? Terlalu penuh dengan emosi yg membuak-buak hingga lupa fikiran rasional. Sebenarnya org mencarut ni dia terkilan pasal dia tak dapat habuan gak. Dia nak gak rasa senang. Tapi pasal kuat mencarut, mana ada org nak dengar dia. Jadi kat kerja ke, kat bizness ker, tak berapa menjadi. Kepala dia ingat dia aje betul.
Kesian kan kalau org yg takde minda terbuka, mana-mana dia nak pergi pun tak boleh pergi jauh. Baik dia tinggalkan negara ni. Dia ingat dia boleh hidup lagi senang kat negara org. Dapat kereta sedap, tapi income tax 40%. Hidup kau tu, setakat dapat kereta sedap ajelah. Soru miss buat ape? Rumah dah nak runtuh buat ape? Kau hiduplah dlm kereta sedap tu. Biar kau berkubur sekali dalamnya.
There’s more to life than a car. Go get one. Get a life dude.
Let’s see how many those so-called nice and cheap car proclaimed by the supporter can sell there. Guess what, people evolved, not many people wanted to buy the cheapest thing.
You wearing the cheapest cloths bought during Xmas?
Also, when it is ugly, IT IS UGLY, even it is make from Merz, it is still UGLY, but Merz got the branding power. People buying it for the brand, not the outlook for Merz if that car is made by Merz.
after a bit of googling. i think i know why she endorse proton saga. it seems that proton is one of the official sponsor of miss universe australia. if u go here
http://www.missuniverseaustralia.com.au/
u can see they are event sponsor this year. and also in 2009
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Miss+Universe+Australia+Crowned+Sydney+DfOifjlqKzxl.jpg
u can see proton logo behind. this is the picture of the official crowning ceremony
beauty and the ugly
an ultimate contrast
Just like Beauty and the beast. Need the princess to kiss the ugly frog. Fairy tale Proton so desperate lah.
the bold (proton) n d best
Thanks JaCe for ur valuable post! hope some malaysian- proton bashers would understand it…
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/43449C503CF2ACAECA25768F0011D2D5
poeple bash proton because people want to see improvements. i used to own an iswara and a waja. didn’t enjoy the experience. my 5 year old honda city taught me that spending a bit more, you’ll be reduced of future headaches. you pay peanuts, you get monkeys for proton. and proton, sorry to say, are the monkeys in my opinion. trust me, if a persona becomes as good as a city (or any similar comparison), i would definitely buy the proton and be proud of it. but until then, keep on bashing everyone!
Kamyongkai said,
December 26, 2009 @ 4:11 pm
poeple bash proton because people want to see improvements. i used to own an iswara and a waja. didn’t enjoy the experience. my 5 year old honda city taught me that spending a bit more, you’ll be reduced of future headaches. you pay peanuts, you get monkeys for proton. and proton, sorry to say, are the monkeys in my opinion. trust me, if a persona becomes as good as a city (or any similar comparison), i would definitely buy the proton and be proud of it. but until then, keep on bashing everyone!
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Bashing is different than giving out constructive criticisms. The bashers frequently cite old stories about power window problems but didn’t acknowledge the improvements that have been made with the new models. This is the reason why some people here are irritated with the bashers. Plus many of them offer no ideas on improving Proton so that their cars are up to international standards.
BTW, I also have a 5 year old Honda City, and I feel very frustrated with all the problems of that car (faulty door lock mechanism and it’s replacement, which is also faulty, panels coming off, side mirror switch not working) despite frequent maintenance and careful driving, whereas my Gen2 has no big problems whatsoever!
Kamyongkai said,
December 26, 2009 @ 4:11 pm
poeple bash proton because people want to see improvements. i used to own an iswara and a waja. didn’t enjoy the experience. my 5 year old honda city taught me that spending a bit more, you’ll be reduced of future headaches. you pay peanuts, you get monkeys for proton. and proton, sorry to say, are the monkeys in my opinion. trust me, if a persona becomes as good as a city (or any similar comparison), i would definitely buy the proton and be proud of it. but until then, keep on bashing everyone!
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nicely put
Bashing and constructive criticisms.
Either way both are two sides of a coin.
Same story, different way of narrating.
Example 1: bashing
Proton sucks!
Example 2: the so called “positive criticism”
Proton needs to improve.
Conclusion:
Proton sucks and they need to improve.
looktothesky said,
December 25, 2009 @ 6:45 am
THIS CAR IS AWFUL, LIKE 70S PRODUCT FROM JAPAN
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Product yang mana satu? boleh bagi clue sikit keta jepun thn 70an mana yg sama dgn saga ni?
p/s: looktothesky tgh pandang ke langit, tiba2 burung berak mata dia.. so dia x dpt membezakan produk/keta thn 70an jepun dgn saga ni… sekian…
harga kat autralia AUD11990 = RM36375.262… tapi kenapa die dapat spec lagi mengiler 1.6…dual airbag… padahal harga tu la low spec kat malaysia.. nude lineair bag pun takde… enjin 1.3… pastu bumper cat hitam… ini tak adil…
Kenapa kerajaan mementingkan org luar dari rakyat sendiri… aku tak berpihak pada mana2… tapi ini nampak dgn terang2 aku kene… aku pakai saga blm n skang aku rasa aku kene tipu…
Bloody malaysian,only know to complain this complain that,if like that make your own car,then you will know how hard to produce a car.I saw a lot of saga on the road,even more than myvi,and I didn’t saw any saga broke down and see it move smoothly with no problem,and go hell to all proton’s basher.
People bash proton not because they want it to improve, it is a cry of their own weakness for;-
i) not working hard enough to be able to own more expensive car,
ii) showing that they are smart and others are stupid,
iii) lack of parental upbringing in manners and decency in speaking.
Even a child will know how to differentiate between a positive criticism and outright spewing of slurs.
Before they kick the car they have to kick my bola first.
It is a good model. Value for money.
sakit hatikan.. said,
December 26, 2009 @ 11:51 pm
harga kat autralia AUD11990 = RM36375.262… tapi kenapa die dapat spec lagi mengiler 1.6…dual airbag… padahal harga tu la low spec kat malaysia.. nude lineair bag pun takde… enjin 1.3… pastu bumper cat hitam… ini tak adil…
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sabar je la bro, but kalau baca betul2 dual airbag+abs tu versi auto model GXR yang akan dilancarkan Q2 2010.. erm, ada x dgr malaysia nk wajibkan kereta ada abs as standard pd 2010 nnt??
The auto version will debut shortly while July 2010 will see the introduction a GXR variant that adds dual airbags, ABS, alloys, reverse sensors and fog lamps to the kit list.
tipah tertipu lagi…..dan lagi..dan lagi… dan lagi…proton fan…wake up…wake up….wake up… :p
beesixslow… get a life dude..
I think this car is also the strongest in its class because it is made of high tensile steel.
People bash proton not because they want it to improve, it is a cry of their own weakness for;-
i) not working hard enough to be able to own more expensive car,
ii) showing that they are smart and others are stupid,
iii) lack of parental upbringing in manners and decency in speaking.
Even a child will know how to differentiate between a positive criticism and outright spewing of slurs.
for me, saga it more value than wira & savvy…but the price for cars in malaysia is to high is compare to salary for normal people…for the rich people is no problem for them…let see wira secondhand for the year 98 is still around rm10k..how about the low level like me as operater with
basic salary only rm850++…need to waiting for almost 5 year to buy this seconhand saga if i can..this was because the price for all new cars is high..why still we need a recond cars..?this because the value for new cars is over limit for the expected…we take the rubbish from other country to give to our people…is that correct ?
sakit hatikan.. said,
harga kat autralia AUD11990 = RM36375.262… tapi kenapa die dapat spec lagi mengiler 1.6…dual airbag… padahal harga tu la low spec kat malaysia.. nude lineair bag pun takde… enjin 1.3… pastu bumper cat hitam… ini tak adil…
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Sebab “mereka” fikir nyawa kita tidak berharga…cheap kononnya..
Here’s an idea, PROTON should consider buying SAAB or VOLVO….then do a technology transfer just like they did with LOTUS since SAAB n VOLVO are up for sale.
the girl is sweet and pretty. he..
Ahhh…. Hot and sexy girl!
stupid proton
sakit hatikan.. said,
December 26, 2009 @ 11:51 pm
harga kat autralia AUD11990 = RM36375.262… tapi kenapa die dapat spec lagi mengiler 1.6…dual airbag… padahal harga tu la low spec kat malaysia.. nude lineair bag pun takde… enjin 1.3… pastu bumper cat hitam… ini tak adil…
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Kenapa kerajaan mementingkan org luar dari rakyat sendiri… aku tak berpihak pada mana2… tapi ini nampak dgn terang2 aku kene… aku pakai saga blm n skang aku rasa aku kene tipu…
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Bro, pls read ezra comments 1st
ezra said,
December 25, 2009 @ 2:57 pm
Proton – A$11,990/unit
Yaris – A$15,990/unit
Corolla – A$21,990/unit
Kia Rio – A$13,490/unit
Holden Barina – A$13,990 /unit
Kia Cerato – A$19,490/unit
If you think you can get a 3 door Yaris for $15990 you are dreaming. They really start at $19,000 once OTR costs are factored in… you’re not going to drive a new yaris without insurance! A midrange 5 door Yaris Sedan costs closer to AUD23k for the auto version OTR. I know this cuz I actually went car shopping in australia not too long ago.
Im not exactly sure what “drive away” price means, but if I recall correctly it includes govt charges such as plates, registration and tax where applicable. “Drive away” as your car is legal on the road. I dont think it includes delivery charges (factory to dealer) that is around AUD1500 from SEA…as it varies by state (ie. Sydney is much further than Darwin from malaysia). Also note that insurance is not mandatory. Price inclusive of comprehensive insurance is likely to be about AUD1200 more for your average 25yo/m driver. Nobody drives a new car without insurance!!
Hence the real OTR cost (inclusive 3rd party insurance and dealer delivery) of the australian 1.6 saga should be closer to about AUD14,000 (RM42,000). ** I have not seen Proton cars cheaper anywhere around the world compared to malaysia **.
Proton genuinely makes cheap cars. And I think the new saga will be competitive against the other cars in it’s class, namely the Hyundai Getz and Kia Rio. Looks wise, it simply looks a hell lot better than any car for a similar price and has five doors and a proper boot. Im sure if Mercedes made a budget A class sedan that looked exactly like the Saga everyone would be praising it’s looks. Cut the bias pls.. It’s a freaking cheap car that has decent looks, an achievement by itself.
**excluding oil rich gulf states where tax is absent (yes proton pays tax in malaysia too), registration is free, and insurance not compulsory.
Saga’s profit margin is negligible. I think if not for so-called ‘national service’, Proton wouldn’t even want to sell it because they can’t get the volume to lower the cost and give them a comfortable margin.
Until it sells well in Oz and other countries and increases production volume, don’t expect much improvements to the standards of the Saga except for some bodykit variants.
thgh said,
December 28, 2009 @ 6:57 pm
stupid proton
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stupid basher.
The chicks and the car doesnt match……..
Sayalah said,
December 28, 2009 @ 10:12 am
sakit hatikan.. said,
harga kat autralia AUD11990 = RM36375.262… tapi kenapa die dapat spec lagi mengiler 1.6…dual airbag… padahal harga tu la low spec kat malaysia.. nude lineair bag pun takde… enjin 1.3… pastu bumper cat hitam… ini tak adil…
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Sebab “mereka” fikir nyawa kita tidak berharga…cheap kononnya..
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Susah btul org tak reti baca nie….yang AUD11990 tu model togel jugak…cuma ada driver airbag jer…..yang ada abs,dual airbags tu 2010 harga lain.
Why she is so hot?
Malaysia nie tahape hape tah kat sini mahal nk mmpos thp gaban tpi air bag 1 je kt sne smpai 4 air bag hah! Cukai smpai 30 ribu pe citer!
bro apa citer 1.6 lak bro… sini 1.3 je sampai la ke se edition…
wtf..
why all the people here need to show the dark side of ourself??
please behave urself..
this is just a forum..
discussion only..
no need to fight..
we all got the same problem..
but tis problem happen because of the human factor..
think b4 u say/write something.
human factor are the main cause for any problem,
so if u think u are smart..better u think twice or more than that..
to solve the problem just need to change out mind set..
if we as a malaysian did not support the malaysia product..
who else want to support??
don’t let the foreign take back our country because our careless..
i hope ur guys can think and motivate urself..
human factor can be defeat if we as a human change our life style and mind set..
sebab tu proton x kan maju..slah satu sebab bisnes berjaya is back to basic..Be Honest!!!
“if we as a malaysian did not support the malaysia product..
who else want to support??”
Hey this is not about patriotism or not….we are malaysian of course lah we will support our local products but why we beebn cheating in front of our eyes??
kau nak support buta2 jer ke bila kau dah tau kau kene tipu??..jangan cakap pasal patriotik kat sini..kitorg sume bukan budak skolahan…
well said riph!
sakit hatikan said,
December 29, 2009 @ 9:21 pm
bro apa citer 1.6 lak bro… sini 1.3 je sampai la ke se edition…
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Bro bukak la website proton edar dulu…tgk brp harga 1.6M/T kat Malaysia..
http://proton-edar.com.my/onlinebooking/index.php?page=booking&car=47
Fahamkan dulu bro…kat australia kos OTR sebenar (termasuk 3rd party insurance dan penghantaran) untuk 1.6 saga di australia sepatutnya hampir AUD14,000 (RM42,000)..sbb ada hidden charges yang kita tak nampak..itu pun harga untuk base line..M/T
Proton is still the worst comp in the world. Fxxking company never treat the local people good..
riph said,
December 29, 2009 @ 10:19 pm
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what did u mean on proton ‘cheating’? how do u know?
banyak betul yang kau tak tahu pasal bussines auto ni..
clearly u’re ‘budak sekolahan’..
to Nakal -banyak betul aku x tau pasal bisness auto MY ASSS…
clearly proton lebihkan org luar daripada our locals ARE U BLIND?
clearly figure numbers…u re all proton lovers all dijajah minded all shuld change mindset…its not about ada hati nak pakai barg first class, still buang sampah merata2…masalahnya kami BAYAR dengan duit kami…we dont care what type of car asalkan we deserve to have a good car with our MONEY..
bro kene paham 1.6 kat malaysia tu limited edition… tu pun sebb jual utk teksi tapi tak abis… kalo tak jgn harap la nk ade 1.6…abg aku eng proton aku tau la….. abg aku dh citer perabis… dh bodoh bahlul sgt budak2 ni… asal ko keje salesman proton ke…
lagi satu nak cakap… yg kat malaysia tu pun baseline 1.6……aku tak blame proton uat kete kat malaysia… tapi kenapa spec tak sama luar negara n dalam…. itu je… yg korg kecoh nape… aku hargai apa yg proton uat utk bantu automotif negara… cuma terasa terasing di negara sendiri…
Wargh! so tension with all those comments.. all the salesman from ‘those’ brands wanna fxxx proton because proton is far better then them now! really! they just cant admit they lost with new performance of proton car.. like persona, saga & ixora! I dun wanna buy their overpriced small MPV like Myxxx add up bontot.. not so call reengineered.. new version of xixa ELITE! wah.. so elite can compare with Merc and BMW.. I love being ELITE!wahahaha! just admit it bro! Pxxodxa car suck! Overpriced! So thin door.. very soft body.. nice design but not the quality.. same plasticky as proton.. wakakaka.. all the fxxing salesman! go go go.. comment more! wahaha! I’ll buy proton! I’ll never buy pxrxdxa.. sometimes I felt toxoxa / Pexxdxa / Hoxxa salesman / owner very dengki with proton.. hahahaha.. let the stupid comments goes on! I can see people is changed towards proton.. Bashing will not change peoples perception towards proton.. Bash! Bash! Bash! But people still buy proton! wahahaha! I will be an elite person after buying xixa ELITE! wakakakakakaka! so funny! LOL!
Like this ka….? Quite Ok lo…
But please improve ur body panel… Not so stiff. May be ur welding spot point not enough kot ?… After used 1.5 years……abnormal alien sound coming in ……
Otai-otai staf at Proton Shah Alam who low performer better resign….
Don’t create double trouble…. Lets Dato’ Syed settle them out…..!!!
Prior, the name S16 has always been given to a sporty car, with image and overall package offering similar to a GTI -level car..
its rather inappropriate for a SEDAN with a BASIC 1.6L engine to be called a S16.
i’ll choose the ms aussie over the car
sakit hatikan.. said,
harga kat autralia AUD11990 = RM36375.262… tapi kenapa die dapat spec lagi mengiler 1.6…dual airbag… padahal harga tu la low spec kat malaysia.. nude lineair bag pun takde… enjin 1.3… pastu bumper cat hitam… ini tak adil…
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sakit hatikan said,
December 30, 2009 @ 7:52 pm
bro kene paham 1.6 kat malaysia tu limited edition… tu pun sebb jual utk teksi tapi tak abis… kalo tak jgn harap la nk ade 1.6…abg aku eng proton aku tau la….. abg aku dh citer perabis… dh bodoh bahlul sgt budak2 ni… asal ko keje salesman proton ke…
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Bro…jgn la jadi bdk sekolahan…baca betul-betul apa yg Danny Tan tulis kat atas dulu dan fahami…
“The auto version will debut shortly while July 2010 will see the introduction a GXR variant that adds dual airbags, ABS, alloys, reverse sensors and fog lamps to the kit list.”
Kena faham apa beza Base Line(M/T)….apa beza utk GXR(Auto)…dan apa yg ada pd GXR tu?..baca betul-betul dulu..baru komen
Bro, harga utk 1.6 Base Line (M/T) di Australia AUD11990 + hidden Charges =AUD14,000 (RM42,000)
Pd July 2010…akan ada variasi GXR dengan penambahan “dual airbags”, ABS, alloys, reverse sensors dan fog lamps..
Harap fahamkan betul-betul…
*Susah nak layan budak sekolahan nie…
“hidden charges”? Can you not read my comment?!! Drive-away in Australia literally means drive away. It includes all compulsory costs, taxes, etc… I don’t know why you are trying to justify or make this argument biased/prejudiced for no reason.
Remember: Make observations THEN draw conclusions. Don’t try to find observations which happen to justify your belief.
sapa dak sekolahan… ko lah bodoh… mmg la gxr tu aku salah n aku tak ungkit pun hal tu dh biler korg tegur… aku cakap pasal 1.6… asal sini dorg tak bagi 1.6 gak…. aku paham pasal hidden charge… tapi kalo ko salesman proton ko mesti tahukan yg 1.6 kat malaysia tu limited edition selagi stock masih ade… tu pun dapat sebb takde org teksi nak beli dh… kalo tak mana dapat kat malaysia 1.6… ko ni paham tak apa aku cakap… korg ni mmg budak sekolah tahu baca tapi tak paham… cuba ko firkir kalo dorg tawar enjin 1.3 kat sana sama macm kat malaysia… apa harganya akan letak AUD11990 jugak ke… pasti harganya akan jatuhkan budak2 pandai… korg salesman proton pasti tau kan beza harga enjin 1.6 campro iafm ngan campro 1.3 iafm.. mayb harga akan jadi lagi murah dari sini…. bodoh…..pasti harga die akan jatuh sama macm kat malaysia biler campur ngan hidden charge…. dh bodoh uat pandai… susah betul layan salesman proton yg perlu sekolah lagi ni…. abg aku engineer proton pun tak nafi apa aku cakap…
You had mentioned many times that your brother are engineer at proton??..hehe..very proud eh? ? But u forgot that u are not same as him..Your comments show who u really are…
I think you should attend a proper civic class to learn how to write civilized comments/critics/opinions…don’t simply used word “bodoh” to anyone…
Pls make a discussion with knowledge and matured.
To JaCe,
May be he means that hidden charges(inclusive 3rd party insurance and dealer delivery) base on ezra comment..u should read above comments first. Ezra did mention that he had went car shopping in Australia not too long ago. Hmm…may be yes..may be no…
stormtrooper- I do not mean to put others down but this would be my area of knowledge since I both a) live in Australia (I am citizen here since birth) and b) I have purchased two brand new cars (Honda FD1, Mitsu Evo X) in the past few years (in addition to helping a lot of friends with buying cars from dealers) and am quite familiar with the process. I think ezra may not be as familiar with the process. The only exception to this would be buying used vehicles which may not be inclusive of all prices/taxes since these are not covered by the Australian consumer code (which applies to dealers) or parallel importers (which is not so common here due to tight regulations/restrictions).
Back to my point above, drive away IS inclusive of those dealer delivery costs, GST, luxury car tax (if applicable), compliance costs (if applicable), etc… it is also now illegal in Australia to advertise a non driveaway price I believe without clarifying what is not included (e.g. state taxes). For companies like Proton however they are using national pricing structure where individual state dealers absorb any differences.
stormtrooper… aku bangga abg aku jadi eng. proton… tapi aku marah pada pengurusan proton… itu je… menganak tirikan rakyat sendiri… aku sendiri pakai BLm start awal tahun 2009… aku tak marah pun pada kete ni…. tapi macm mana rakyat sendiri dapat kurang dari org luar… dan itu yg aku rasa ditipu oleh company yg aku sokong selama ini…baca email aku dari awal… and everyone.. please read this….please read this…
JaCe said,
January 2, 2010 @ 8:33 pm
stormtrooper- I do not mean to put others down but this would be my area of knowledge since I both a) live in Australia (I am citizen here since birth) and b) I have purchased two brand new cars (Honda FD1, Mitsu Evo X) in the past few years (in addition to helping a lot of friends with buying cars from dealers) and am quite familiar with the process. I think ezra may not be as familiar with the process. The only exception to this would be buying used vehicles which may not be inclusive of all prices/taxes since these are not covered by the Australian consumer code (which applies to dealers) or parallel importers (which is not so common here due to tight regulations/restrictions).
Back to my point above, drive away IS inclusive of those dealer delivery costs, GST, luxury car tax (if applicable), compliance costs (if applicable), etc… it is also now illegal in Australia to advertise a non driveaway price I believe without clarifying what is not included (e.g. state taxes). For companies like Proton however they are using national pricing structure where individual state dealers absorb any differences.
ok latu…
pendapat aku, elok sume model proton kuar yang full spec aje.
that means..complete with abs,dual airbag (at least),reverse sensors,15”+ sport rims,..cruise control.,5 speed for automatic..etc
then,untuk SE (special edition)
bleh la letak lain2 tu
sport rims 16”++, body kit..+spoiler , sun roof, leather seat,..dan performance kits, turbo ke? sistem ekzos upgraded +suspension system..
itu cuma pendapat,
jadi sesiapa yang banyak duit bleh beli yg mahal mcm perdana,waja..
dan yang kurang bleh bli saga atau savvy.. tapi tidak hampa dengan spec dan safety yang ada.itu lebih untung untuk semua terutama pembeli.
full spec right. kenapa proton kene ada banyak version? let make things clear, all proton models make high end full spec.. nak tambah option lagi cuma add r-type or limited edition.. hey… kan ada R3? so, bila standard proton car ada abs,ebd,airbag,bodykit,blutooth,automatic rain sensor (kan negara kita paling banyak terima hujan nape x pasang kat proton, geografi failed ke? ooops… sory…) sunroof,phd eh, etc….. ha baru la org akan kata ‘proton is a good car’ ‘good job pro-ton.. hmm… mungkin air-cond kat kilang proton sejuk sangatt kot? or proton takut sales jatuh kot? my dear proton… i grow up with proton. i love proton… i’m sure other’s too….
aku pakai proton saga BLM, ok jer smpi skang. kakak aku pakai savvy, sedap jer. kakak satu lagi pakai saga oren, power window problem, tapi enjin tip top smpi hari ni. lagi satu keter kancil, ok jer sampai skang. asal korg x suke keter malaysia eh?
Bukan x suka proton bro..
AUD11900 = RM35600 untuk Saga 1.6cc campro.. u beli saga 1.3cc tu berapa harga?? LU PIKIR LAH SENDIRI!
I can hardly find an online brochure locally regarding this model
hope someone can enlighten me/us.
Is it written anywhere that the new proton saga model comes with fuel injection system?
I only heard it comes with a new air intake system that enables the engine to “breathe” better which also results in better torque and driveability.
Regards,
Sheila