Perodua Alza 1.5L Manual Test Drive Review

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The Perodua Alza is surely one of the most anticipated cars of recent times. In fact, this blog has been spreading the news of the Perodua MPV since early 2008, and we’ve been teased by numerous spy shots and revelations ever since. Well, it’s finally here now and we’ve got a chance to drive it over a weekend, covering 385km over a variety of roads.

Read the rest of the report after the jump.

The model we tested

The Alza we sampled is an SXi, which means it’s the Premium spec manual transmission variant priced at RM60,990 (OTR including insurance). Extra equipment over the Standard models include ABS with EBD and Brake Assist, dual airbags, Bluetooth and USB connectivity, leather wrapped steering with audio controls, driver seat height adjuster, fog lamps, rear spoiler, higher grade seat fabric and silver/chrome trim in the cabin. That’s quite a lot of added kit for an extra RM5,000 – well worth it in our opinion.

perodua alza side

Here’s a brief recap of how Perodua’s MPV stands on paper to its immediate rivals. The Alza sits on an elongated Myvi platform and its 2750mm wheelbase compares well with the Toyota Avanza (2655mm), Nissan Grand Livina (2600mm) and Proton Exora (2730mm) even though it’s the second shortest here after the Avanza. The Alza’s footprint is actually much smaller than the Exora’s – the long wheelbase is derived by pushing the rear wheels right to the car’s edges.

Under the bonnet is a cast iron block 3SZ-VE 1.5-litre engine, as used in the Avanza 1.5 and Rush, although it’s mounted longitudinally in the rear-drive Toyotas and transversely in the FWD Alza. Perodua quotes 103bhp (104PS) and 136Nm of torque, which is slightly lower than the Avanza’s 108bhp/141Nm – perhaps a slightly different state of tune. Transmission options are a four-speed auto and our tester’s five-speed manual.

For more detailed technical info and measurements, view our previous post.

Living in the Alza

perodua alza mid rowUsing wheelbase length as a measure of spaciousness is more applicable in a passenger car than an MPV because rear overhangs contribute to an MPV’s interior length, so we shouldn’t read much into the Alza’s class leading wheelbase. The Alza feels much smaller than the Exora inside, and should be about the size of a Grand Livina, but with a much higher roofline than the Nissan which contributes to an airy and open feel. Stepping into the Alza is very easy, as doors open wide (typically Perodua) and the ride height is just perfect – no need to “climb” into the car.

Access to the third row is trickier. The Alza lacks a tumble fold system for the second row, which means you’ll need to fold down the seat backs (it doesn’t go fully flat) and pull the base – a two-step operation that’s less convenient than the Exora’s two-way, one-touch lever. Once that’s done, the opening is small and those who are less nimble might have difficulty entering.

perodua alza 3rd row

Once inside, the high roof gives adequate headroom but legroom fully depends on the kindness of other occupants – it can range from zero (if the second row is pushed fully back) to decent for mid-sized adults if a compromise between second and third row members can be made. Anyhow, the seat base is not much higher than the floor so your knees will point high, but this is not uncommon in a seven seater. There’s also very little space for luggage with all seats up. I also wished that the non-split rear seats can be folded flat with just one operation – at present you’ll need to pull two straps (one on each side) to tumble it.

perodua alza boot

“Is the air-con strong enough?” is a common concern among Malaysian carbuyers and we’re happy to report that despite not having a separate blower and vents for the rear section, the Alza’s air con provides a strong enough breeze to reach rear occupants. The system also cools very fast. There are also plenty of cupholders – 12 in our car!

From the driver’s seat

perodua alza dash

From the driver’s seat, the driving position, ergonomics and visbility are all pleasant. For me, the highlight of the dashboard is the integrated stereo system, which is full featured, easy to use with big buttons and looks premium with tight fit buttons flush with the surface. In contrast, the Vios derived “bottle cap” style A/C controls look cheap, and without the auto gear lever sharing this space, the area looks rather empty, as if something is missing.

The centre mounted instrument pack is OK for clarity, but the trip computer didn’t have much info other than Range. The manual variant also lacks the driver seat extension and fold down arm rest since the gear lever and hand brake are in their traditional location – between the seats. What it gets over the auto are a couple more cubbies and cupholders.

perodua alza radio

On the move, the Alza is a very easy and undemanding car to drive – the steering is light, turning circle is tight and clutch is similarly effortless. But the clutch pedal does not seem to have any biting point – it’s either up or down – and those without the habit of resting their foot on the clutch might crave for a foot rest – at present, the pedal is so near the centre console that Perodua wouldn’t have been able to fit one anyway.

The Alza’s gearchange could also be better. The shallow gates and imprecise rubbery feel means that there’s little satisfaction to be had swapping gears; the process feels quite crude and van-like actually.

Many have doubts whether a 1.5-litre is sufficient for an MPV and this is where the Alza surprised us and our passengers. Acceleration is lively, whether from rest or in gear, and there’s enough low down torque to merge with faster flowing traffic without venturing high up the rev range. You do hear and feel the engine buzz, as you would in other Peroduas, but it’s never annoying.

perodua alza rear

I ferried the family up to Genting Highlands to see how the Alza would cope with four adults on board, and it managed the task admirably. For the first half of the journey on the Karak highway, the Alza made decent progress in fifth gear; only a few times did I need to downshift to fourth to regain momentum. After exiting the highway to begin the climb, the Alza took care of slower traffic and more powerful but poorly driven cars mostly in second gear, even for the few super sharp slopes on the route. It did struggle a little to be honest, but so does its rivals, so there’s not much of an issue here.

That experiment showed that the Alza is pretty flexible on the move, although there’s an occasional hesitation and pause in the mid range, as noticed in our preview report. The Perodua feels more energetic, responsive and effortless than the 1.6 CPS powered Exora and although we did not do a side-by-side comparison, my money is on the car from Rawang in a performance test.

The Alza rides and handles capably as well. There’s not much body roll to speak of, and the ride comfort is relatively good – it doesn’t buck and bounce around like the Avanza or react so sharply to small bumps and ridges like the Grand Livina so it’s a good effort from Perodua. The 185-section Silverstone tyres aren’t exactly high on grip (ours were barely scrubbed in) but other than a steering that I feel should be tighter in high speeds, there’s very little to complain about. What the Exora does better is isolating the engine from the cabin, general refinement and car-driver communication.

perodua alza meter

On the matter of fuel consumption, I did 385km in the Alza with the trip computer showing a range of 150km (two bars of petrol) when I returned the car. The Alza’s full tank capacity is 42 litres and I added 10 litres to it, so the rough calculation points to 10.3 km/l, which is pretty decent considering the Genting detour. Perodua’s claim is 15.5 km/l for the manual, but keep in mind that it’s almost never possible to hit official figures.

Conclusion

alza with myvi
Alza’s rear resembles the pre-facelift Myvi; here, it’s parked next to the current Myvi

As an MPV, it’s far from perfect. But to its credit, Perodua doesn’t call the Alza a full-sized MPV, preferring the “5+2” occasional seven seater status. And if viewed as a bigger Myvi with much better legroom, a huge boot and two “emergency seats” the Alza becomes a brilliant proposition. We can see how popular the Myvi is with Malaysians, and if given more of the same with the abovementioned benefits at a small premium, there’s no reason why the Alza won’t be a runaway success. As a bonus, the Alza has adequate performance and is entirely decent to drive.

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Danny Tan

Danny Tan loves driving as much as he loves a certain herbal meat soup, and sweet engine music as much as drum beats. He has been in the auto industry since 2006, previously filling the pages of two motoring magazines before joining this website. Enjoys detailing the experience more than the technical details.

 

Comments

  • adijb on Dec 14, 2009 at 9:46 am

    Nice and balanced review Paul.

    Am using an Avanza 1.3 manual now. Have 4 kids, the first 2 are 160cm++ in height (and growing) and both sits in the middle row. The last 2 sits in the back row.

    Had a look at the Alva first hand. Was dissapointed with the 3rd row which is a must for me. My childdren’s legs were ‘stuck’ when they sat in the 3rd row with the 2nd row pulled back fully.

    Had to cancel my intention of getting an Alza. For me, it’s not even competing with Avanza even though price wise it is.

    Looks like the only choice left for me is either Avanza 1.5 (better performance, same size) or Exora (performance?, bigger size).

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  • kerelbort on Dec 14, 2009 at 9:58 am

    great review

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  • anak dato' kk on Dec 14, 2009 at 9:58 am

    My opinion, this review is not detail enough to discribe the car compare to exora before. Why only 4 adults, not 5,6 or 7?

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  • pulge on Dec 14, 2009 at 10:07 am

    To me it is more of an estate/wagon instead of MPV. Hence the 5+2 seater namesake. It will sell nonetheless.

    Waiting for Exora hybrid and turbo.

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  • punisher on Dec 14, 2009 at 10:25 am

    mr paul.why do a maunal test..after all the majority of the bookings r auto..shu get hold an auto version,,anyway .really appreciate yr reports..generally been v helpful

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  • Anonymous on Dec 14, 2009 at 10:43 am

    Nice radio control especially blue light. Compare to my silly Persona:-(

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  • dr34mkill3r on Dec 14, 2009 at 10:49 am

    first!!!

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  • Mazda 3 MPS on Dec 14, 2009 at 10:49 am

    better than proton exora

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  • nabill on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:05 am

    good review , i tink the reason for the peppy engine is that most of the power is in the lower range rpm so its more accesible…..where the exora is slow til u reach abt 3800rpm thn u feel a proper kick….

    for me its still looks narrow for the inside…and jus like the myvi ,alot of road roar enteres the cabin….and i wish the dials wer in the center ratyher than middle…annoying…bt its gonna sell….and in no time , its gonna be everywhere

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  • n.aniham on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:06 am

    Nice report, really appreaciate it..

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  • asura on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:07 am

    quite nice vehicle but less space than its rival..paul,any test drive for the autos?

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  • no 2, wakakaka…. anyway, junk mpv..cheersss

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  • kingv6 on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:16 am

    IMHO, Alza should be not be compared to Exora but instead the Persona.
    The size is just to small for an MPV. To me, it’s just a “better” Myvi.
    If the price is in the range of rm45k to rm55k, i’ll surely booked one. And then it’s will be worth than getting those Cam tak Pro Persona’s…..

    Cheers

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  • JoeJoey on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:18 am

    Adiossss…

    ada sape2 boleh bantu saya mendapatkannya?

    +60129093373

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  • Chazx on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:19 am

    I'm the first….Yahoo….!

    Overall the car is good, same like EXORA….

    For me, for the price of below 70k, it is worth it…

    do not compare with the car over 70k, for sure cannot beat laaa, but not all.!

    Still, Malaysian are the best …. not only producing our own car, imitating the other brand olso power …. like CHINA… (still the economy growth meh) ..

    Lets feel the spirit of 1 Malaysia……

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  • can do a side by side comparison with the exora?

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  • budzer on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Thanks Danny.

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  • person on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:35 am

    huh…..WTF!

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  • nice job perodua…good options on full spec models,lets hope sales number get as popular as myvi

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  • Homer Simpson on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Is not bad at all for the price.More reliable than Campro engine in my opinion.I would be happy to own one.I bet Exora sales will drop since now we have to choice but then again…

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  • i'll pick this over avanza anytime.but not as a full size mpv

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  • shawal.ali on Dec 14, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    hahahahahah WTF!!!

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  • shawal.ali on Dec 14, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    people with this plate initials shud drive responsibly…dont simply overtake and dont forget to turn on the bloody signals laa weeiiii budak2 lesen terbang nie….ke takde lesen…

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  • Gajen on Dec 14, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    this is much better than exora…

    and the price is freaking reasonable…60k for 2 airbags,abs,ebd,bas,bluetooth,usb,steering controls,projector headlamps and a sleek design….

    worth the price man

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  • shawal.ali on Dec 14, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    -white colour is ugly, makes it look like a bread van,

    -the empty space could be replaced with a drawer

    -u did mention b4 to the engineers if the CR-V-esque arm rest could be added ( y not the local accessory shop makes one that hangs from the metal headrest's forks.. as long as its durable and not to heavy)

    -i think you shud get an autobox with this kind of car, more time to hold hands wit d passenger and converse with the other 5 people on board on long trips

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  • mystvearn on Dec 14, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Nice review, maybe should remove the last 2 seats alltogether

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  • Saleh Hashim on Dec 14, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    I already cancel my booking for this car…..small for me….

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  • yup… better this than avanza… for entry level MPV…

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  • azrai on Dec 14, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    "the Vios derived “bottle cap” style A/C controls look cheap" It is not bottle cap, it is the 70's washing mashing control knob to spin. :-) paul, you didn't mention that in order to fold the rear seat, you have to take off the headrest. that's quite inconvenient beside 2 strap to pull.

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  • familyman on Dec 14, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    hahaha

    paul, i think i ran into you lah when you were doing your testing and coming down back from genting.. on the highway

    becoz on saturday evening coming back from the north.. i overtake this white alza with that big great official text unit

    i was in my wife's livina 1.8… she said the alza just doesn't do it for her.. she prefers her livina's look as we overtook your test unit maybe twice

    i was wondering why the alza unit was so briskly being driven… so it was manual.. no wonder hehe

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  • tokpaya on Dec 14, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    IMHO, a decent review.

    How about engine noise with air-cond turned on? Is it noisy and frequent on-off compressors of the current myvi's?

    What about the trip to Genting + luggage. How did the luggage compartment handle with the four adults/family on board.

    Brakes? How well did it perform with passengers, and without passengers.

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  • hahaha

    paul, i think i ran into you lah when you were doing your testing and coming down back from genting.. on the highway

    becoz on saturday evening coming back from the north.. i overtake this white alza with that big great official text unit

    i was in my wife’s livina 1.8… she said the alza just doesn’t do it for her.. she prefers her livina’s look as we overtook your test unit maybe twice

    i was wondering why the alza unit was so briskly being driven… so it was manual.. no wonder hehe

    ====================================

    urs in 1.8 while test unit is 1.5

    how to compare Bro?

    lagi, car price oso difference…..

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  • are-peace on Dec 14, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Rekaan yang menarik dari segi rekaan konsule radio, tetapi nampak cacat pada rekaan kawalan penyaman udara. Rekaan luaran ynag menarik tetapi terlalu kecil untuk ruang dalaman jika dibandingkan dengan grand livina. Kesimpulan nya grand livina lebih menarik

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  • Cheng Lok on Dec 14, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    If you put more people, you could not carry more luggage. If you want to put more luggage, you cannot carry more people. Typical MPV.

    Go for Vannette.

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  • austin_cipan on Dec 14, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Dear Paul,

    What's the engine rev when the car hits 90kph, 110kph & 130kph respectively?

    The registration number 'WTF' is funny… to the dirty minded… hehehe…

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  • Nakal on Dec 14, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    Nice plate no. …

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  • littlefire on Dec 14, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    From the review above, as last my bet win that the 1.5L DVVT engine is more better in term of Power : Weight ratio. Even Perodua manage to improved rides & handle as well, bravo.. This morning already seen 4-5 Alza on highway already, while only see 2 Exora… Well, i think a few months later the roads T. Avanza, G.livina or maybe P. Exora wannabe buyers will be replace by this Alza…

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  • chanel on Dec 14, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    …it look like Alza sounded: WTF….

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  • Paul, why only 4 adults? I would like to know the performance when the car is full with 7 adults.

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  • Wira 1.8(A) DOHC UK on Dec 14, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    austin cipan,

    my wira rpm at 90kph, 110kph & 130kph, are 2000rpm, 2500rpm, 3000rpm.

    haha.

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  • azrai on Dec 14, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    From the review above, as last my bet win that the 1.5L DVVT engine is more better in term of Power : Weight ratio. Even Perodua manage to improved rides & handle as well, bravo.. This morning already seen 4-5 Alza on highway already, while only see 2 Exora… Well, i think a few months later the roads T. Avanza, G.livina or maybe P. Exora wannabe buyers will be replace by this Alza…

    Power is not the main things in choosing MPV. Adequate power is enough. What is more important, when going for a trip for holiday or balik kampung, there is enough place for everyone (7 people) + luggage. Those 5+2 only suitable for town + short distance travel. Also 5 people + 2 cats = 5+2. :-) The bigger the MPV is better actually, in Malaysians' mind. This Alza will be a seller just because its T DNA in it, and it surely cannibalized other P2 line-up. Myvi is expected to be less book by 18%, and Toyota Avanza also CKDed at P2 Rawang plant also will be cannibalized by this Alza.

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  • Wira 1.8(A) DOHC UK on Dec 14, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    austin_cipan,

    my wira auto run 90, 110 and 130 in 2000rpm, 2500rpm and 3000rpm, respectively.

    haha!

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  • Azlan on Dec 14, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    however the review, i would say the space of ALZA still does not fit me in.

    Sempit gile!

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  • hahaha,nice plate

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  • theanswer on Dec 14, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    i'd buy this car..but definitely not using it as 7 seater..unless emergency..i'm interested with the 1.5 block.

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  • littlefire said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 8:39 am

    From the review above, as last my bet win that the 1.5L DVVT engine is more better in term of Power : Weight ratio. Even Perodua manage to improved rides & handle as well, bravo.. This morning already seen 4-5 Alza on highway already, while only see 2 Exora… Well, i think a few months later the roads T. Avanza, G.livina or maybe P. Exora wannabe buyers will be replace by this Alza…

    ——————————————————-

    I think this will not have major impact on G.Livina buyers or P. Exora buyers. I guess those who are favouring G.Livina could be those who can already afford to pay 80K for a car. They might not want to downgrade their option unless they really have a tight budget. But, if they really have a tight budget, they will not eye on GLivina in the first place. Meanwhile, P.Exora is totally unharmed as it is a totally diffent segment from Alza. It is a real 7 seater MPV. I think MyVI and Avanza sales could be affected instead. Just my humble opinion.

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  • Danny Tan (Member) on Dec 14, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    I only tested the car with 4 adults because that's the size of my family – grandparents not very keen on the roller coaster ride up Genting!

    The tacho should be around the region of 3500rpm at 110km/h.

    We are trying hard to get the automatic Alza from Perodua, and also the Exora for a comparison, but that may take awhile. We will address all remaining questions in a follow up story so bear with us please!

    familyman: Our test unit didn't have any stickers, and since it's Saturday evening I'm quite sure it wasn't me that you overtook :)

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  • xavier lert on Dec 14, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    so malaysian MPV future buyers…which one do u prefer?

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  • kimi_ on Dec 14, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    CONFUSE….this review done by Paul or Danny???

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  • Salamander on Dec 14, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Well I have yet to see this car on the road and I travel a lot. How come some people say they able to see 5 on the road in 1 day? You're staying at Perodua showroom is it?

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  • If not mistaken, the review that Paul did on the Exora was an auto tranny right ? U may want to try and review the Exora's manual tranny to compare apple to apple in terms of transmission. Plus the difference in the number of occupants.

    And one more thing, was the driver and front passenger freezing like the arctic since there is only a front blower?

    Anyway, good report.

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  • racer on Dec 14, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Nothing new ! I dont understand…if P2 dont spend on RnD why not 'GIVE BACK' the money to customer!.

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  • whats the use of official fuel consumptions if we as customers cant achieve it..

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  • sam winchester on Dec 14, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    alza length is a bit longer than avanza but avanza interior is like 2x spacious than alza. not to mention avanza has rear blower aircond. rear aircond is really important in malaysia. alza didnt have one because its not intended for malaysia market. malaysia is a hot country unlike japan. sure u can put the aircond to maximum and eventually it will reach the third row but the driver and front passenger will freeze to death. try it on a hot day.. ull see.

    i dont think alza is avanza competitor, in fact, it didnt compete with any of compact mpv in malaysia. people who looking for mpv will not consider alza because it lack what mpv should have, space. perodua salesman tell me this, "kita dah kaji, mana ada orang guna mpv bawa 7 orang setiap hari." of course.. not only exora, even alphard owner didnt ferry 7 people everyday. but what happen when time come, u really need that 7 seater+luggage?

    sure malaysian road will fully occupied with alza in the future but those are myvi and persona potential buyers. exora is still good choice for "mpv". if u say that exora is underpower, than ure not a family man and not suited to buy mpv. because mpv is not about power. its about safety, space, and comfort. (sigh, even underpower, many exora overtake my rondo on highway and dissapear from my view in matter of seconds.)

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  • paul,

    i experienced produa has higher geared steering ratio.

    like kancil , myvi, avanza for instance.makes it busy at parking space and during in and out of sharp bend making too much steering turn and sometimes it could delay for the car to get back in position. not like later generation protons they have cosiderably quick (low geared steering) steering for batter response.

    paul, how about alza? its steering control?

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  • jong84 (Member) on Dec 14, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    With new number start from WTF? So, WTF??

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  • gen2lama on Dec 14, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    errr…4 adults only?….better use 1.6 sedan to genting…

    can it fit 7 full size adults like this?..
    http://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu300/gen2lama…

    or can if fit 177cm 80kg (gemuk) adult on the 3rd row (together with 3 on the 2nd) ?

    it's me on the last row…
    http://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu300/gen2lama…

    look at how good to have 1+1 for the 3rd row…..extra seat, extra luggage…

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  • armpit on Dec 14, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    absolutely better looking than exora.

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  • komali on Dec 14, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Not Paul…Danny…baca betul-betul la…give the man due credit.

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  • satrian on Dec 14, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    ……WTF……Kinda hamsap number..hahaha…..

    By the way its not a mpv la….for me is more to station wagon(just my 1 cent)

    Just went to Penang with my freins mpv (Avanza -2 months old)…really feel cozy and thought wanna cancel my order for Alza and go for Avanza…..

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  • The instrument panel placed at the centre dashboard looks like a gay… just like vios .. x trail.. matrix. completely not a man's vehicle. anyway, this alza is the most overrated vehicles of the year. nothing special

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  • old man on Dec 14, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    how is it different from Avanza?

    The funny is the number plate :) WTF.

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  • It is a mini mpv.

    It is not a compact car

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  • kobeng on Dec 14, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    is there any seatbealt on third row seat?

    tak kena saman ke nanti bila passenger seatbealt dah di wajibkan pakai?

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  • Kereta Superseded MY on Dec 14, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    WTF!!!! hahaha..

    WTF refer to the car itself, really wtf!! haha

    Similar to Myvi, except bigger bonnet.. best buy? nope… i choose LIVINA.. no if not enough budget, maybe get Exora…

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  • Kereta Superseded MY on Dec 14, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    where is the spare tyres???

    so far, no CRASH TEST???

    ISOFIX??

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  • Alza's platform sounds like a succeeding version of Avanza for me..Provided it's from the same parents company?

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  • kobeng said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 12:15 pm

    is there any seatbealt on third row seat?

    tak kena saman ke nanti bila passenger seatbealt dah di wajibkan pakai?

    ———————————-

    Driver seats RM300, passenger seats RM80, so u can assume a passenger seats which doesn't looks like one may charge u RM50?lol…joking joking~

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  • Salamander said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 10:52 am

    Well I have yet to see this car on the road and I travel a lot. How come some people say they able to see 5 on the road in 1 day? You’re staying at Perodua showroom is it?

    ————————

    For me not 5/day, but at least i can see it once every 2-3days..

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  • Danny Tan (Member) on Dec 14, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    There are seatbelts for two passengers in the third row.

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  • kobeng on Dec 14, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Kereta Superseded MYVi said,

    where is the spare tyres???

    so far, no CRASH TEST???

    ISOFIX??

    =====

    crash test? you must buy this alza and try to crash one maaa… it is call DIY crash test…

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  • alldisc on Dec 14, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    chanel said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 8:42 am

    …it look like Alza sounded: WTF….

    —————————————————————-

    next up? WTH (What The Hell) wakakakak

    Avanza – for small families

    Alza – for reeaaally small families

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  • Nakal on Dec 14, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    What about WTH **** plate no. for auto variant test drive? hahaha

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  • Tiadaid on Dec 14, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Salamander said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 10:52 am

    Well I have yet to see this car on the road and I travel a lot. How come some people say they able to see 5 on the road in 1 day? You’re staying at Perodua showroom is it?

    —————

    I don't know about the Alza, all the Alza I've seen are the test drive cars. But those saying they never seen the Exora or saw only a few on the road are lying through their teeth! I've seen A LOT of Exoras on the road!

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  • For me the top dash look ok, bottom dash looks like peanut butter..Overal design is alrite too.. thus the remedy for space, rear seat might as well taken out of it.

    Seats are overly fabricated, kinda cheap sofa from Cavenzi, expect the seat to turn into certain shape in the future.

    Price wise is stil ok, but customer like me might always consider top up our budget and go for Livina/Exora(have no idea how's Exora condition)/Avanza/ Latio (I'm driving a Latio, overall height of Latio n Sylphy is taller than normal Saloon car, and more space thou..Imagine if i sacrifice my passenger seats leg space of 2 feet into half feet, I can anytime fit 1 more roll of seat behind my car)..

    Therefor,

    1. If u're looking for a Mpv for space, unless u're expecting your family members to be stay on 4adults+2kids situation, don't take it..Or u'll regret y u had taken it.

    2. If u're looking for a Mpv with power, take a Sedan 1.6/1.8.

    3. If u're looking for a Mpv with storage, get a Vennette, or a LiteAce..

    The question was, Who will take this Mpv?

    1. Those who like style and want to feel big.(as in big in shape compared to Sedan)

    2. Those who had budget and are not willing to do their business with an extra Van/Lorry/Truck, they can take this as their family car, as well drove to their shops/wet market/storage.

    3. For their kids to drive to school? safety? If it was filled up to second roll, ya safety is there..Last roll??I wouldn't put my kid into last roll, what happen if a bingung fella hit my back?I has only 4 inches to avoid anything to hit my kids' head. Agreed? Besides, if i were to take it as my kid 1st car to school/college, I might as well get them a MyVi, or a Swift at this price range.

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  • alldisc on Dec 14, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    h said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 12:06 pm

    It is a mini mpv.

    It is not a compact car

    —————————————————————-

    lets do some comparison

    Alphard, LaGreat, Elgrand, Carnival, Stavic, Starex = Large MPV

    Estima, Odyssey, Serena, Ipsum, Peug 806, Fiat Ulysse, Ford SMAx – Midi MPV

    Wish, Stream, Exora, Ford C-max, Kia Carens – Compact MPV

    Avanza – Small MPV

    Grand Livina and Alza – seriously a 7 seater wagon.

    ever known when did 7 seater wagon trend started? look for Renault 21 Savannah, Peug 505 Estate, Volvo 740 Estate and Merc W124 TE. at that time The Toyota Pervia/Estima and Renault Espace were a mere people carried – not able to carry up loads thus not a multi purpose vehicle.

    cheers!!

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  • unknown on Dec 14, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    who say exora is totally underpower.even my mom's avanza can't catch up with exora and that car just disappeared and makes me wonder how about the next exora turbo speed.bye2 alza.jadi siput je lah alza.i rather call alza a sardin can.sure the passenger will be thin after riding that car.so alza is just a myvi with a bigger bonnet size…..thats all???

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  • Ford_GT on Dec 14, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    It's good to see an healthy competition between P1 and P2 in our domestic market, we will get to see they are trying to improve their workmanship and to satisfied for our needs. Keep it up the good work.

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  • redwings on Dec 14, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    I was at Perodua showroom last week, for 64k, this is still the cheapest, so called MPV. with those safety features, ABS and Airbags..

    I was surprised about the warranty… not sure whether there is a catch or not?

    6 years or 175k km. whichever come 1st.

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  • hmmm, well, looking at it this way, Perodua did well in the compact car region with the Kancil previously, maybe what they want to do is introduce a "compact MPV", in which, in my opinion, the Alza does a pretty good job =)

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  • Well written review danny. btw, the computer display only shows RANGE? it does not show KM/L? or L/100KM?

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  • Imran on Dec 14, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Very thorough review. Good job, Paul and Danny. Does anyone know, are they brothers or is it just a coincidence in surname?

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  • So far have not encountered any alza. not even a test drive unit. still hope to see 1 myself. I guess, i ll have to wait till next year then.

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  • prolever on Dec 14, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    i like the no. plate…..

    WHAT THE F@&%…………

    hahahaha….

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  • love malaysian on Dec 14, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    hahaha

    paul, i think i ran into you lah when you were doing your testing and coming down back from genting.. on the highway

    becoz on saturday evening coming back from the north.. i overtake this white alza with that big great official text unit

    i was in my wife’s livina 1.8… she said the alza just doesn’t do it for her.. she prefers her livina’s look as we overtook your test unit maybe twice

    i was wondering why the alza unit was so briskly being driven… so it was manual.. no wonder hehe

    ====================================

    urs in 1.8 while test unit is 1.5

    how to compare Bro?

    lagi, car price oso difference…..

    ===================================

    sorry to say …..most of people like to compare with brand not spec and tech .. like this one ….:

    littlefire alway said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 8:39 am

    From the review above, as last my bet win that the 1.5L DVVT engine is more better in term of Power : Weight ratio. Even Perodua manage to improved rides & handle as well, bravo.. This morning already seen 4-5 Alza on highway already, while only see 2 Exora… Well, i think a few months later the roads T. Avanza, G.livina or maybe P. Exora wannabe buyers will be replace by this Alza…

    ALZA ALREADY ON THE ROAD >>REALY ? ..correct if im wrong P2 SA say when take a booking 2,3 months wainting list ..

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  • love malaysian on Dec 14, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    hahaha

    paul, i think i ran into you lah when you were doing your testing and coming down back from genting.. on the highway

    becoz on saturday evening coming back from the north.. i overtake this white alza with that big great official text unit

    i was in my wife’s livina 1.8… she said the alza just doesn’t do it for her.. she prefers her livina’s look as we overtook your test unit maybe twice

    i was wondering why the alza unit was so briskly being driven… so it was manual.. no wonder hehe

    ====================================

    urs in 1.8 while test unit is 1.5

    how to compare Bro?

    lagi, car price oso difference…..

    ===================================

    sorry to say …..most of people like to compare with brand not spec and tech .. like this one ….:

    littlefire alway said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 8:39 am

    From the review above, as last my bet win that the 1.5L DVVT engine is more better in term of Power : Weight ratio. Even Perodua manage to improved rides & handle as well, bravo.. This morning already seen 4-5 Alza on highway already, while only see 2 Exora… Well, i think a few months later the roads T. Avanza, G.livina or maybe P. Exora wannabe buyers will be replace by this Alza…

    ALZA ALREADY ON THE ROAD >>REALY ? ..correct if im wrong P2 SA say when take a booking 2,3 months waiting list ..

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  • Kereta Juga Supersed on Dec 14, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    waiting for WTR

    What the Rubbish..

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  • ericfoong81exe on Dec 14, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    Good try for P2, you deserve the honor…..keep working on for better future model.

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  • Baldwin on Dec 14, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    The ALZA can probably get the 'Most Overrated Vehicle' of the year.

    Checked it out at the showroom and saw tht its not 'that' much bigger than a Myvi.

    If it's a family tht you need to bring around, go get the Exora, which is capable of a full 7 seater + luggage..anytime. Period.

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  • baldwin? on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    wut ca talking about? alza still consider big wut?

    no matter wut…this is an individual opinion…

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  • unknown on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    viva+myvi=alza…..

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  • P2 rulez man…

    u've done a great job outta there…

    never mind this basher basher rubbish….

    yesa, i agree…. it as a COMPACT MPV!

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  • agies on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    I"m exora Manual owner..bg aku setiap kereta ada kelebihan masing2.Terpulang pada pengguna yg ign memilikinya.jgn terpedaya dgn kata2 yg suka memburukkan sesuatu produk.Kita nilai sendiri & ikut kemampuan kita.Siapa yg kata exora under power,dr pengalaman aku yg telah memilikinya selama lbh 3 bulan.Tiada istilah under power.handling memang superrr..Cuma org yg belum/tidak memilikinya belum tahun kepuasan memandunya…

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  • onesmile on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    The Toyota version is called the Toyota Passo Sette, which essentially means Passo Seven, or a 7-seater version of the Toyota Passo. Sette means seven in Italian. The Daihatsu version is called the Daihatsu Boon Luminas, where Luminas is a combination of the words roomy and luminous. At Malaysia is called Perodua Alza…

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  • tttuuuutttt on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    org bodoh sombong je beli alza ni…mcm myvi gak….powerla sgt

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    • raz85 on Apr 23, 2010 at 9:35 pm

      lu nak kutuk produk orang macam lah lu bagus sangat…….bodoh amenda beli Alza
      orang pandaiiiiii lah sebab engine berkualiti ada brand …..toyota. Ezora brand dari mana campro ke keropok….?

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      • Shakira-Wakawaka on Jun 29, 2010 at 11:05 am

        ..bese la..xde duit!..tu yg cakap bodoh tu…tapi yg bodoh tu dia je…

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  • The problem with ALZA is that P2 claimed that it is a MPV ahead of official launching. In a typical Malaysian's point of view, MPV is a vehicle which can transport 7 or more ppl inside (eg. 8,9, or even 10 sometimes) comfortably and nothing less. Their could not accept the fact that Alza is more like a wagon instead. Therefore, I could understand the dissapointment and frustration from some potential buyers as they have postponed their car purchase for 10 months after such a promising announcement from P2. After all, like any other human nature ( you know what i meant… hehehe), SIZE does matter.

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  • karipap on Dec 15, 2009 at 12:11 am

    h said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 12:06 pm

    It is a mini mpv.

    It is not a compact car

    —————————————————————-

    alldisc said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 12:58 pm

    lets do some comparison

    Alphard, LaGreat, Elgrand, Carnival, Stavic, Starex = Large MPV

    Estima, Odyssey, Serena, Ipsum, Peug 806, Fiat Ulysse, Ford SMAx – Midi MPV

    Wish, Stream, Exora, Ford C-max, Kia Carens – Compact MPV

    Avanza – Small MPV

    Grand Livina and Alza – seriously a 7 seater wagon.

    ever known when did 7 seater wagon trend started? look for Renault 21 Savannah, Peug 505 Estate, Volvo 740 Estate and Merc W124 TE. at that time The Toyota Pervia/Estima and Renault Espace were a mere people carried – not able to carry up loads thus not a multi purpose vehicle.

    cheers!!

    ____________________________________________________________

    I have a better name for it.

    Alza is a Micro MPV… hehehe… what do you guys thinks?

    cheers too! :p

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  • koozold on Dec 15, 2009 at 12:27 am

    this car will be review in Top Gear soon…

    Seat rubbish, door rubbish, steering rubbish, seatbelt rubbish, and drive with a long face…Lolx

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  • Yes, already saw this Alza on road. twice at Putrajaya. Now, waiting for modified Alza on road…. hehehe~

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  • adijb on Dec 15, 2009 at 12:40 am

    Oh, sorry Danny Tan. I thought this review was done by Paul. Well, a good job to you on this review.

    You are spot on, kev. Good observation. I actually promoted Alza to my brother in-law who has 5 kids, before it came out. What a dissapointment.

    The best option left for me now is Exora. Avanza 1.5 is the same size as 1.3, and I want something bigger, at Avanza 1.5 budget. But I'll wait and see how the quality of Exora is like. Am willing to wait.

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  • @ntiPerODua on Dec 15, 2009 at 1:08 am

    Salamander said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 10:52 am

    Well I have yet to see this car on the road and I travel a lot. How come some people say they able to see 5 on the road in 1 day? You’re staying at Perodua showroom is it?

    —————

    I don’t know about the Alza, all the Alza I’ve seen are the test drive cars. But those saying they never seen the Exora or saw only a few on the road are lying through their teeth! I’ve seen A LOT of Exoras on the road!

    ____________________________________________________________________

    itu tactic Perodua Salesman tipu orang bodoh yang suka kereta perodua !!! So Sad!!!!!!!!

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  • @ntiPerODua on Dec 15, 2009 at 1:22 am

    So Sad………. i DIDN'T Saw Any Alza on the road….. Satu biji pun tak ade !!!!!!!! Jangan Cakap Besar Besar Nampak Mana Mana !!!!!!!!! Bull Shit!!!!!!!!!!

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  • adijb said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 4:40 pm

    Oh, sorry Danny Tan. I thought this review was done by Paul. Well, a good job to you on this review.

    You are spot on, kev. Good observation. I actually promoted Alza to my brother in-law who has 5 kids, before it came out. What a dissapointment.

    The best option left for me now is Exora. Avanza 1.5 is the same size as 1.3, and I want something bigger, at Avanza 1.5 budget. But I’ll wait and see how the quality of Exora is like. Am willing to wait.

    ________________________________________________________________________

    This is nothing about Alza. It's about Exora.

    Adijb

    If you want to know the quality of Exora, I can tell you based on my experience of driving it. FYI, i bought my Exora Manual 2 months before the launching and have not have any regret of making such a decision. In fact, I was glad when I visited the P2 showroom during the launching. What i can say about Exora is you get what you pay. For me, I felt that the car is never underpowered. Been to genting with no difficulties. The handling is superb , i have to admit, can accelerate to 140km/h easily and can still go higher if i press more (I have to admit I have no guts or balls to go beyond 140km/h). Yet, There are some problems that i am facing right now such as front lamp become foggy( proton will exchange 1 to 1), therm amp prob (under warranty). These are the common problems as described in the EOCM and have been solved. i categorised it as minor and can be solved by SA immediately. The most important thing when you buy proton car is you must be near to a good service centre. I know some service centres do piss off the customers and luckily, I have one good one near my area.

    The difference between Exora and other local cars is that it is integrated with BCM. It is really fun to play with BCM ( really gives you a feeling of being inside an expensive car ) although the plastic colour may look dull and old fashioned. ONe bad thing though, the plastic can be scratched easily. SO really have to take good care of it.

    As for fuel consumption, i would say 8L/100km on highway and 10L/100km on roads with many junctions. I would say it is okay considering the fuel consumption for other cars of similar range like innova. So far so good, happy with the car performance. Dont really know it would be the same after 5 years but I ll always keep my finger crossed.

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  • @ntiPerODua on Dec 15, 2009 at 1:29 am

    Pls test drive both car first !!!!!!!!! then give review …………….

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  • @ntiPerODua on Dec 15, 2009 at 1:30 am

    Pls test drive both Alza & Exora first !!!!!!!!! then give review …………….

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  • nudin on Dec 15, 2009 at 1:33 am

    but for sure alza still no crash test. Saw p1 arena crash test just got 1 star really terrible for the driver and passenger.Just hope alza not bad as arena

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  • jpj manual registration now, no e-daftar… thts y less car registered

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  • @ntiPerODua on Dec 15, 2009 at 1:43 am

    Pls test drive Exora & Alza first then give us review!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • anak dato' kk on Dec 15, 2009 at 1:46 am

    If you're really want a full MPV, go for Estima, Odyssey, Alphard, Elgrand,or…..Exora. This car only suit for a small family with a small children, thats all I can say…hmmm…………. Agreed with kev

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  • sparkoeng on Dec 15, 2009 at 1:51 am

    Tak patut-tak patut….

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  • antiPerODua on Dec 15, 2009 at 1:52 am

    jin said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 5:33 pm

    jpj manual registration now, no e-daftar… thts y less car registered

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    What year u living nowdays ?????????????? 1990 ????????????????????

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  • antiPerODua on Dec 15, 2009 at 1:55 am

    koozold said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 4:27 pm

    this car will be review in Top Gear soon…

    Seat rubbish, door rubbish, steering rubbish, seatbelt rubbish, and drive with a long face…Lolx

    _________________________________________________________________________

    AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!! TOTALLY RUBBISH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • antiPerODua on Dec 15, 2009 at 2:01 am

    nudin said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 5:33 pm

    but for sure alza still no crash test. Saw p1 arena crash test just got 1 star really terrible for the driver and passenger.Just hope alza not bad as arena

    ______________________________________________________________________

    seriously??? any facts that can upheld ur comment?? cuz it is just a waste of space..

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  • antiPerODua on Dec 15, 2009 at 2:05 am

    armpit said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 11:40 am

    absolutely better looking than exora.

    __________________________________________________________________________

    AGREED !!!!!!!!!!! BUT absolutely MILO TIN CAR THAN EXORA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • littlefire on Dec 15, 2009 at 2:20 am

    Anyone who wish to see Alza in the road, just come to Penang and see it urself.. Already quite some numbers on the road here.. Even Sungai Petani, Kedah i also seen a few there.. Not test drive unit..

    I have seen Alza driving on highways this morning when i travel from Penang to Sungai Petani to work. 2 at Penang, 2 at highway & another 1 in Sungai Petani. That is just around 7am in the morning. Exora got 2 on highways..

    For me, i have no comment but just let the sales determined which 1 is better. Since Paultan Blog have been flooded by P1 Procommenters (maybe a few but duplicate name), i just wonder how many of them really own or even just driven Exora? Personally i tested both with my family of 6 person. Which 1 better in term of quality, technology, brand assurance, handling, FC, maintenence cost & power:weight ratio? You guess it.. All 6 at once voted the same car. Yes, it may be unfair as 1 adult sit behind. But thinking of long run and the reputation of Proton, i better went for a safer choice…

    Just a simple question to ask, do you always fetch 7 adults all the time? Even Exora also seen mostly 1-5 family people riding in it and not always 7 adults.. Let the sales speck itself, if Proton Exora sales still going strong. Bravo to Proton.

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  • sparkoeng on Dec 15, 2009 at 2:32 am

    Kerata juga MPV? Kalau macamtu Kancil juga MPV la.Merc C200 juga MPV. BMW7 series juga MPV. So in Malaysia everybody own an MPV. So who needs another MPV?

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  • Maserati on Dec 15, 2009 at 2:44 am

    Haha..watch Proton sales tumble down the charts..

    Cant wait for the sales reports the next few months!

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  • bga jd ank m`sia! on Dec 15, 2009 at 2:48 am

    WTF* & WTH* lol! mahal meh.. x mampu hutang.. byk bende len blh beli

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  • unknown on Dec 15, 2009 at 3:10 am

    even myself really hate perodua but doesnt mean that i really hate it.i hate it because perodua always rebadge japanese car.but it should be cheaper but what i see is the price is quite-''cekik darah''.and for me buying perodua's car doesnt really supporting our malaysian car.and for me…top gear reviews is quite-bull shit.cheap car means cheap quality,and dont compare aston martin with a perodua…..bloody jeremy clarkson.

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  • chery mpv….worth it for price 70k

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  • malaysiamemangboleh on Dec 15, 2009 at 3:14 am

    exora and alza.both good…damn good.is up to you all to buy which one or just take both.easier..

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  • Neutral on Dec 15, 2009 at 3:24 am

    fuh ramainya P2 basher.btw kalau P1 and P2 keluar MPV 2.0 sebesar Innova harga RM110k spec gile2 superb,berapa ramai orang beli ye? 5000? 6000? mhhhhhh xbalik modal.xpe P1 and P2, i tabik u all n keep improving.for u n ur family jugak :)

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  • Rrrrr on Dec 15, 2009 at 3:48 am

    Experience at showroom near to Stadium Shah Alam, my wife hampir terjatuh sebab tersepak seat sliding rail (2nd row) semasa nak keluar dari 3rd row seat. Walaupun seat dah lipat habis tapi senang nak jatuh balik. Sambil bongkok kan badan kena pulak menahan seat di hadapan (macamana kalau kanak2).

    Conclusion: Exposed sliding rail bracket kelihatan tak safety untuk penumpang di 3rd row keluar dan masuk (terutama kanak2). Perodua sepatutnya lebih bermoral perihal keselamatan pengguna.

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  • Ryan Lee on Dec 15, 2009 at 4:26 am

    i think it would look good if you put some nice bodykits on it.

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  • samn (Member) on Dec 15, 2009 at 4:30 am

    I was very interested with Alza as I was thinking of Livina to buy. But sorry I won't buy Exora regardless whatever price it is. Having living with 4 Protons in the last 13 years…this is where I put a stop in buying Proton cars. Anyway, as I was anticipated the Alza, it was really a put off to realise that it is such a small MPV and yes suit for "5+2". I think for over RM60K, Perodua should have sell it much lesser…I wasn't impressed at all. Some more the safety features are very disappointing are just on par with Persona Hi-Line. I test drove the auto version with 5 adults & 1 boy at the last row. The air cond temperature was adjusted very cool with fan blowing high to get cozy but yet the poor boy was sweating. The engine needed to be revved to maintain consistent speed not really that peppy but adequate power. The ride is a bit bloating but still comfortable but body roll is very apparent when taking corners. Luckily they put in 1.5cc engine, if they maintain 1.3cc engine sure going to be a big blunder. Anyway, I strongly felt that Perodua should price it much cheaper for better value for money. Somehow, I felt that Alza will not be as popular as Myvi and I don't think it will take Exora market share that much either if most people demand a proper and adequate MPV; Alza is certainly not one of it.

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  • peYno on Dec 15, 2009 at 4:36 am

    paultan.. since ALZA using same AVANZA engine.. why dont yo make direct comparison ALZA vs AVANZA interm of power to weight ratio and FC???

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  • JKucing on Dec 15, 2009 at 4:43 am

    aduhaih, p2 basher,dun compare tis car to exora again la…..not same class also :S

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  • saki77 on Dec 15, 2009 at 4:56 am

    I'm also from penang, but i dont think its that easy to see Alza here…well its a new car…Littlefire maybe just lucky to see it that many…but last week Perodua or somebody did make a tour with 10 or so Alza here around Penang..That time i can claim that i saw a lot of Alza on the road..tp bertutut-turut le..

    And i dont think its fair to compare the sales of Exora and Alza just to show which is a better MPV cos Alza's market also for people who wants to buy a car with big boot whereas Exora's market is solely for people who wants to buy an MPV.

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  • peYno on Dec 15, 2009 at 5:37 am

    paulltan shoud test drive the ORI version as well then you will know to differentiate the ori vs DOWNGRADED version..

    pasultan didn't mention… to fold down 3rd row seat, we have to remove the head rest at first . this is really inconvinience… then you have to plce the headrest somewhere at side armrest… this is not trendy and old fashion at all, similar as OLD UNSER…

    prrrfthhh

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  • Saw the Alza twice, too tight for adults to sit both the second and third tow at one go. No booth at all, so no NGV.

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  • Danny Tan (Member) on Dec 15, 2009 at 5:48 am

    peYno: Yes, but only if you push the second row furthest back

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  • peYno on Dec 15, 2009 at 6:04 am

    danny tan..i don't think so… even at average 2nd row seat position.. the 3rd row head rest need to be removed… unlike livina, exora, citra… the head rest can be push down…

    did paul test drive the MT version of exora before?? it is unfair to compare performance of ALZA MT with EXORA AT… and why don't you compare ALZA vs AVANZA performance since they are using same/similar engine???

    on paper.. power to weight ratio.. AVANZA seems better than ALZA

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  • Tiadaid on Dec 15, 2009 at 6:12 am

    littlefire said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 6:20 pm

    Let the sales speck itself, if Proton Exora sales still going strong. Bravo to Proton.

    ——————–

    It's hard to use sales as a measure for P2, because it's hard to know whether ppl are buying the car because of its advantages, or because they're blinded by the badge…

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  • initial R on Dec 15, 2009 at 6:30 am

    the one that littelfire saw was the one that "Skuad alza ERA" used for promote P2 car (normaly they promote P2 car). Just test drive unit only on the road right now…. Just last week came back from Alor Star, saw lot's of Exora on highway….. + mine it's 15 Exora's i saw…… or u just stay in the "pulau only ?".

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  • peYno on Dec 15, 2009 at 6:34 am

    ppl buy p2 not becoz of p2 itself… but becoz of T and D behind them…

    ex: p2 nautica… p2 believe they oredi have strong brand… so sell nautica under p2 brand… as result.. this car break a recond.. most unsellable car.. even juara sales better than it

    prrrtfhhh

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  • ThatWhyWeHate! on Dec 15, 2009 at 6:37 am

    Tak payah gaduh, kalau tab buta , baca sini

    That experiment showed that the Alza is pretty flexible on the move, although there’s an occasional hesitation and pause in the mid range, as noticed in our preview report. The Perodua feels more energetic, responsive and effortless than the 1.6 CPS powered Exora

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  • Persona Calar on Dec 15, 2009 at 6:39 am

    Maybe it will get good sales as Myvi…

    But… still love my persona… even kena calar by some stupid people…

    Hidup Proton!!! coz i work with proton manufacturing plant at shah alam… hoho

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  • peYno on Dec 15, 2009 at 6:45 am

    that whywe hate

    org buta je compare MT with AT

    stupid

    prrrfthhh

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  • anak dato' kk on Dec 15, 2009 at 6:55 am

    Its very unfair to compare MT with AT. Better compare side-by-side with same transmission and same condition eg with 7 persons onboard….hmmm….

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  • littlefire said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 6:20 pm

    Just a simple question to ask, do you always fetch 7 adults all the time? Even Exora also seen mostly 1-5 family people riding in it and not always 7 adults.. Let the sales speck itself, if Proton Exora sales still going strong. Bravo to Proton.

    ________________________________________________________________

    I'll have to disagree with you when you point out that we do not often fetch 7 adults all the time. Yes, it is true that we might be driving alone most of the time, the main concern is that when we want to buy an MPV, we must make sure it can fetch the optimum number of passengers, which is at least 7 comfortably WHEN we need it. What is the point of getting an small MPV which can barely cater for 7 passengers? You will regret when one day when you need the space to ferry 7 ppl for a long distance. One such experience is enough to make you regret of your purchase. That was the main reason why I get Exora. I would have regretted buying Exora if Alza is as big or similar to Exora even with a 1.5 engine. Even after I owned Exora, sometimes I kept thinking why i didnt get a 12-seaters instead when I came across a Starex

    One thing I learn about buying cars is that we will almost never complain that the car is too big, but most of the time, we will complain that the car is too small. Some might say it is difficult to park the car but for me, this comes with practice. The more we practise parking the car, the better we will be. And when you own a big car, you will learn to drive and park it at no time.

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  • paul dan danny nie cam salesman perodua pulak..gile punye best dia karang pasal ini ALZAHHH…padahal tak best langsung…gua dah test drive…gua tau lah camna performance ALZAH nie…masuk 5 org..mmg terasa enjin agak memeritkan bila memulakan perjalanan…iskk..iskk…

    rpm..110km-3500…exora 110km 3000…rasanya exora best lagi…danny and paul…hehehe…aku tak caya sangat ngan hang pa berdua nie…

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  • penyu telor! on Dec 15, 2009 at 7:08 am

    Alza already 12K booking!! meaning that rakyat malaysia appreciated this ALZA! bravo Perodua!! byk yg hentam perodua tu adalah pekerja proton… hahhahha.. kesian… try yr best… hihihihi.. good luck la… i hear that proton will launch EVO 10? betul ke? pekerja proton tolong la jawab…

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  • tokmoh on Dec 15, 2009 at 7:27 am

    better sales = better car?

    If that theory is absolute, then ferrari, lambor, aston are the top car manufacturer in the world.

    better sales, if ever, normally indicates that it's cheaper, therefore more people hv access to buying it.

    alza, being cheaper than exora, will sell better than exora, but there's more to price that determine the sales. tau2 je la apa faktor2 tersebut…

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  • lan pet pet nagis.. on Dec 15, 2009 at 7:56 am

    what ever la…

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  • JACK HAMMER on Dec 15, 2009 at 8:32 am

    littlefire said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 8:39 am

    This morning already seen 4-5 Alza on highway already, while only see 2 Exora…

    _____________________________________________________________________________

    R u stupid or what??

    there're only 50 Alza on d road rite now, u stupid!!!

    check out METRO (dec 14) the same fuc*ing day u see 4-5 Alza on highway..

    http://www.hmetro.com.my/Current_News/myMetro/Mon…

    "Pengarah Urusan Perodua, Aminar Rashid Salleh berkata, setakat ini 50 unit Alza sudah berada di jalan raya dan dijangka bertambah dalam tempoh terdekat."

    duuh??… stupid cockhead..

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  • celicazz on Dec 15, 2009 at 8:56 am

    it Peyno again…

    the Alza's plate initial is for you Peyno…

    enjoy it!

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  • Vezeroth on Dec 15, 2009 at 10:41 am

    i feel like taking a bomb and blowing it up… i think a c4 would do it justice…

    its an eye-sore, and we sure do not need extra tall cars on our roads…

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  • Comparing between Alza vs Exora like comparing between lime and orange…Both have different markets. Alza more towards Persona and Myvi buyers. God willing, this 5+2 creature will take some Myvi's sale BUT not up to cannibalizing the popular model.

    Alza will have some impact to Exora as buyers with less than four kids now have another choice with better T/D-DNA engine.

    People can blame badge-engineering or whatever, BUT Alza will have upper hand in term of volume very soon.

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  • all i like about dis car is da no. plate, lolz !!!

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  • rally_fan on Dec 15, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    will definitely sell..

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  • 1Exorian on Dec 15, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    hmm decent review…or ??? i wonder..no fooling me like obama would say…

    "like putting lipstick on a pig" …ALZA FOR MIDGETS!!!! hehe try selling that in US!

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  • laburit on Dec 15, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    semalam sempat test drive alza ngan exora. dan jangan salah sangka aku ni basher p2 lak, coz i own myvi and viva.

    so test drive alza, ni yang aku rasa: (yg buruk aje)

    1 rasanya macam bwk viva, bunyi tayar bising pun mcm viva.

    2 seat keras, aku siap cakap kat salesman apa jadah seat keras ni, diam tak cakap apa

    3 tombol gear low quality, kena pakai tiga jari je boleh.

    4 kalau lalu jalan berliku, terasa… sama macam viva elok sikit je.

    5 space kecik…

    6 aircon emmmm…

    test drive exora: (buruk aje)

    1 nk pickup enjin bunyi kuat

    2 realibility issue

    3 fuel consumption

    so overall prefer exora…. handling cukup, aircon cukup, luas cukup…accessories cukup…. just wait for the turbo to be launch… then i'll buy exora…. memang betul different segment but same motive for me as a buyer….

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  • MengQ on Dec 15, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    =.="

    Uhh…so many losers & lame comments here.

    Good job on the review anyway, i like this car myself. Except for minor things like the design of the rear end, weird-shaped steering, and the gear shift. =(

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  • waklanproton on Dec 15, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    compare again side by side alza m/t and exora m/t. then give us review.

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  • Danny Tan (Member) on Dec 15, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    Ok guys. A lot has been said and it sure looks like World War 3 is coming soon! I have some clarification to make.

    If you read the review again, I did mention that the Alza is much smaller than the Exora, and concluded that it’s not a great MPV but a good alternative to those looking to buy a Myvi (a category that MANY Malaysians fall into). I stand by that statement.

    I personally like the Exora very much, but I was taught as a journalist not to apply my own priorities (driver appeal is very important to me, for instance) to a review, but see it from that particular car’s target audience.

    That said, reviewing a car is not exact science – no right or wrong formula – so there’s bound to be some of my personal opinion in there. You are welcome to disagree, that’s why we have a comments section, but please keep it intelligent and factual instead of throwing around personal attacks.

    Cheers! Have a good Tuesday ahead!

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  • Kereta Juga Supersed on Dec 15, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    littlefire said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 6:20 pm

    Anyone who wish to see Alza in the road, just come to Penang and see it urself.. Already quite some numbers on the road here.. Even Sungai Petani, Kedah i also seen a few there.. Not test drive unit..

    I have seen Alza driving on highways this morning when i travel from Penang to Sungai Petani to work. 2 at Penang, 2 at highway & another 1 in Sungai Petani. That is just around 7am in the morning. Exora got 2 on highways..

    For me, i have no comment but just let the sales determined which 1 is better. Since Paultan Blog have been flooded by P1 Procommenters (maybe a few but duplicate name), i just wonder how many of them really own or even just driven Exora? Personally i tested both with my family of 6 person. Which 1 better in term of quality, technology, brand assurance, handling, FC, maintenence cost & power:weight ratio? You guess it.. All 6 at once voted the same car. Yes, it may be unfair as 1 adult sit behind. But thinking of long run and the reputation of Proton, i better went for a safer choice…

    Just a simple question to ask, do you always fetch 7 adults all the time? Even Exora also seen mostly 1-5 family people riding in it and not always 7 adults.. Let the sales speck itself, if Proton Exora sales still going strong. Bravo to Proton.

    ————-

    And you're always bash Pr Oto Nasional. when the product is good and inexpensive, you bash govt.

    Alza should be cheaper since it used local vendor…

    But i'm quiet surprised why P2 CANNOT COMES WITH CRASH TEST for Alza after a looooong loong request by client??

    WHY??…. WHY??.. with RM300 million, what P2 did actually?

    Exora only takes rm450million to create whole car..but P2 Rm300 million to create bumpers?

    Any P2 people want to clarify about this?

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  • Roger on Dec 15, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    Why some of you people still want to compare Exora & ALZA ?? Both are different category laa… Exora is pure MPV while ALZA is the next MPV, means if you sometimes want to load more than 5 passenger, use the 3rd seat row.

    If you prefer comfortability , get Exora or Estima laa… Don't made a stupid judgement by simply bashing others people opinion…

    Alza should compete with Avanza…that's a correct comparison.

    Exora should compete with Livina, Citra, Rondo,etc….due to engine capacity and performance, otherwise to don't simply made stupid comparison and stupid assumption !!!

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  • gen2lama on Dec 15, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    littlefire said…

    Just a simple question to ask, do you always fetch 7 adults all the time? Even Exora also seen mostly 1-5 family people riding in it and not always 7 adults.. Let the sales speck itself, if Proton Exora sales still going strong. Bravo to Proton………..

    errrr…do you fetch 5 adults all the time with yr sedan?…Even Vios, NHC, Persona also seen mostly 2-3 family people riding in it and not always 5 adults…soooooo…better buy smart for two then…

    i dont always fetch 7 adults all the times….but when needed the extra extra seat are there…two family can go together using only 1 mpv…save money, save toll,…can u do that with aalza?..i dont think u want to go makan2 with yr 5 friends with alza…

    better sales = better car?….just look at RONDO sales….do u think RONDO = rubish compare to other MPV?….for me RONDO is a good….

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  • farghmee on Dec 15, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    it may looks ok, but how about its safety?

    if there is, i think p2 must have been already put it up in the ad., isn't it?

    we, the observant potential p2&p1 customers, always have eyes on these..

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  • farghmee on Dec 15, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    for segment-concious people, yes indeed alza&exora are in different segment (specification-wise).

    however, for money-will-be-spent-wise, it's almost the same for the basic spec.

    that's why all the raves&rants are there.

    all in all, i think potential buyers SHOULD TRY BOTH before purchasing.

    buy the 1 which suits u.

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  • saki77 on Dec 15, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    haa..kan Danny dah merajuk tu..hehe..Danny, peace…just kidding…

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  • redxdevil on Dec 15, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    this alza is totally rubbish.. how to compare wit exora

    space = exora win

    higher cc = exora win 1.6cc

    price = exora win

    mpv buyer = sure buy exora if u wan buy mpv, if not consider mpv then u might get sedan..

    cheers!

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  • dexa101 (Member) on Dec 15, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Poor Danny, look like being a car reviewer is not easy on this forum especially when there are some mind twisted and pathetic psychopaths on the loose in this forum. I think they should attend a proper civic class to learn how to write civilized comments/critics/opinions. credits have to be given to danny although i may not agree with all of what he wrote.

    Voicing of opinion are welcome but don't shout here and there calling people stupid.

    Personal opinions are very subjective and whether you agree with it or not is up to you.

    Both exora and alza are in different segments and they offer different features and functions. Due to the pathetic NAP, these are the only two affordable "locally" made MPV, unfortunately they are not the best MPVs either, but we don't have much choice right now, unless drastic changes are made to the auto industry in the next few years. For now, market forces will determine which model is the winner although it may not be a better model.

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  • redxdevil on Dec 15, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    only NOOB buy alza.

    poor them

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  • learner on Dec 15, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Danny Tan said,

    December 15, 2009 @ 9:28 am

    Ok guys. A lot has been said and it sure looks like World War 3 is coming soon! I have some clarification to make.

    If you read the review again, I did mention that the Alza is much smaller than the Exora, and concluded that it’s not a great MPV but a good alternative to those looking to buy a Myvi (a category that MANY Malaysians fall into). I stand by that statement.

    I personally like the Exora very much, but I was taught as a journalist not to apply my own priorities (driver appeal is very important to me, for instance) to a review, but see it from that particular car’s target audience.

    That said, reviewing a car is not exact science – no right or wrong formula – so there’s bound to be some of my personal opinion in there. You are welcome to disagree, that’s why we have a comments section, but please keep it intelligent and factual instead of throwing around personal attacks.

    Cheers! Have a good Tuesday ahead!

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    errr, danny….

    i don't think by replying to the comments here is a good idea. PT himself is hardly reply to any comment that attack his review. if you reply 1, people will reply back 10, this is normal.

    but it is TRUE that comparing test drive ALZA MT with EXORA AT is really wrong.

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  • Kereta Juga Supersed on Dec 15, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    hey basher, dont blame Danny…

    he already test the car and make the his choice based on his experience..

    if u dont like his comment, test drive by yourself and create your own blog and put it there…

    Danny, i'm on your side…

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  • nice info guys

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  • budlee on Dec 15, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    rawang? which one is from rawang? the perodua one is it?

    hmm it is a very common opinion among car journalist that toyota based engines are more lively and revs more easily that then rest

    same comment when compared the vios engine and city engine, even though the city has higher horsepower, the vios revs more easily…

    i am glad you liked it too :D

    i just dont like the plain dashboard.. its incredibly boring..

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  • Fridz (Member) on Dec 15, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    Ayoh..

    Danny has explain well in his review..As being a blog reader, we must take that idea (Danny's review) in overall. Just bare in our mind, Danny has mentioned his tour was a trip of 5..Danny perform the review as what he feels and what he think.

    But Danny, i think your phrase 'feels more energetic, responsive and effortless than the 1.6 CPS powered Exora' is actually pointing directly to compare Alza with Exora.

    Anyway, thanks for the review.

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  • AlzaIsComing on Dec 15, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    To all Alza supporter and non-supporter. Pls giv me some times. I am coming soon on the road.

    Although now still "sebiji pun tadak" on the road or hardly seen.

    Haha…

    Alza kah, Exora kah… Our Government, pls reduce tax for cars and its parts.. then all of us can get cheaper cars.

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  • laburit on Dec 16, 2009 at 12:08 am

    sori danny, i don't complaint ur review, i just write my opinion… its not wrong isn't it.

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  • Exora & Alza (what's..?) both pathetic & overrated. Better save the money and buy 2nd hand nissan vanette.. ha ha ha ha

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  • antiPerODua on Dec 16, 2009 at 1:23 am

    JACK HAMMER said,

    December 15, 2009 @ 12:32 am

    littlefire said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 8:39 am

    This morning already seen 4-5 Alza on highway already, while only see 2 Exora…

    _____________________________________________________________________________

    R u stupid or what??

    there’re only 50 Alza on d road rite now, u stupid!!!

    check out METRO (dec 14) the same fuc*ing day u see 4-5 Alza on highway..

    http://www.hmetro.com.my/Current_News/myMetro/Mon…

    “Pengarah Urusan Perodua, Aminar Rashid Salleh berkata, setakat ini 50 unit Alza sudah berada di jalan raya dan dijangka bertambah dalam tempoh terdekat.”

    duuh??… stupid cockhead..

    —————————————————————-

    TOTALLY AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE IS TOTALLY STUPID UNPROFESSIONAL PERODUA SALESMAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • antiPerODua on Dec 16, 2009 at 1:25 am

    PERODUA BUILTING CARS PEOPLE " DIED " FIRST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • initial R on Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 am

    Danny just get Manual unit that can say the pick up & accelerate are more batter than auto… Still if want to compare, it not fair enough coz Danny test Alza manual, Paul test Exora & Alza Auto… Danny test Alza with his family (4 of them, include kids) climb genting, Paul test Alza with 6 ppl only around hotel but for Exora, Paul test with 7 ppl with his size from KL > genting > kuantan & turn back to KL also he sit at 3rd row on travel back…. To compare, have to put Exora & Alza side by side in same day, in same condition…. I know some will said "it not fair for difference category" but still most comment in Exora & Alza tread still compare it coz both production in Malaysia… Paul & Danny, When can do rival test ?… Anyone agrees ?….

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  • WTF7425 on Dec 16, 2009 at 2:20 am

    "my money is on the car from Rawang in a performance test."

    how much u got for giving good review for alza? haha

    for me, your review a bit biased and always comparing it with other cars which not in the same class though u keep insisting u didn't.

    anyhow, good review and i suggest by adding the rating 1 to 10 will make your review more helpful.

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  • anak dato' kk on Dec 16, 2009 at 2:37 am

    Do you really think that vanette is more better than these alza n exora? Hmmm…, I don't think so. And do you really has to save the money because nissan vanette is cheaper than exora….

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  • peYno on Dec 16, 2009 at 3:05 am

    checked other forum as well, and many ppl complaint about 2nd row seat lever broken at showroom…i saw at glenmarie p2 showroow, the balck color one.. can't enter to 3rd row coz 2nd row seat lever broken oredi…. wa la weiii… Toyota QC maaa

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  • hailoooo dont compare alza wiz exora meh…. totally diff catagory actually alza is a car with out bonet …. exora most probaly buyer use asa second car.. due to size n practicality alza yes id mid size car actuallu i test drive it both on same day at kuching P2 n P1.. cek out the tech feature on exora u will amaze.. shoking by my self alza yes fun to drive god handling at conering but for true MPV it out of compatition wiz exora.. my niece complain straight when entering 3rd seat say to small lah.. haih also no aircond pegh hot she complain… but overall yes alza is god for small family but if ur famyly growth bigger better buy exora… see the spec for ur self .. dont compare the engine with the same as japanese made its not…. wanna buy true alza buy recond car better.. same as alza… but pls people buy a car or MPV ikut kemampuan lor can buy u need to take care of u car … servicing everithing follow the spec for sure u car will be good … if u buy a car then u use it like shit sure u get a shit from it…frankly ask ur self before buy cukup ke duit bulanan,service,tahunan,anak,tol, and everything…so spend ur money sebaiknye kkk… dont listen to other test it buy ur self k dont shame to ask… some comenteter here never drive proton or p2 some of them frust by the car coz by them self fault so guys buy a car (ikut badan sendiri lah)…

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  • Neutral on Dec 16, 2009 at 4:22 am

    i already try move out from 3rd row Alza ok je?sama mcm honda stream,2nd row boleh slide ke depan. kalau ikut ergonomic,Exora lagi bahaya.sekali fold habis terpelanting barang sume jatuh,laju pulak tu.ikut budget la wey,kalau mampu belila yg better n bigger car.

    ps:bahasa melambangkan bangsa.jadilah rakyat yg bersopan santun.

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  • QC ok, the lever wasn't broken when they checked in the factory.

    It was fine when it arrived in the showroom.

    Change the lever supplier lah, problem solved.

    The manual shifter….a bit rough maybe showroom model like that only.

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  • JKucing on Dec 16, 2009 at 6:23 am

    Dear Danny, you shouldn't write that this: "The Perodua feels more energetic, responsive and effortless than the 1.6 CPS powered Exora"… many p1 blind supporters or p2 bashers can not tahan to see this phrase and they will start complaint… :D

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  • Perodua Alza dah ada 12,000 tempahan. So, apa nak bising2 lagi kan… Terima kenyataan je lah….

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  • peYno on Dec 16, 2009 at 6:51 am

    Jkucing… but danny didnt mention that he actually talking about ALZA MT and EXORA AT..so no wonder la he kena complaint

    aaiyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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  • luaran nampak menarik tapi sayang takde safety..terlalu kecil tak layak dipanggil MPV.ha..ha..ha

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  • tokmoh on Dec 16, 2009 at 8:54 am

    initial R : Aye~!! ^_^

    ya lor, Danny, where got fair compare alza MT with exora AT… gi buat balik review. this time, test both AT or both MT side by side, then that's more true n fair view.

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  • JKucing on Dec 16, 2009 at 9:15 am

    So you see, not easy to be a car review blogger… especially in bolehland where car r selling at crazy price and funny specs/engine… ppl sure complain no matter how u write about a car bcos they feel the price is not worth…anyway must give support to Mr Danny also la… if not remember wrongly he just started to write review here…waiting an AT alza vs AT exora review :D

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  • sayapdewa on Dec 16, 2009 at 9:56 am

    the awkward mpv ever…typical malaysian always compare the look/performance etc rather than safety…goverment should deploy all car maker to produce at least 2 air bag every car registered in this country…

    just like europe did even proton in europe more safety than ours…

    lu pikir la sendiri…

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  • Little Fire, bukan ke masa exora kuar ramai yg sibuk2 mgkin termasuk awak mengatakan adakah mampu exora bawak 7 orang naik genting, tapi bile alza je, orang pulak cakap bukan sume orang bawak 7 orang sepanjang masa. so sepatutnya masa exorapun cakap camtukan, baru adil. so, kata2 awak tu xbleh pkai, nonsense.

    dulu ada yang ckp, exora 3000rpm 110, kuat minyak coz rpm tinggi, tapi bila alza, 3500 rpm 110, minyak xkuat. pelik gak kadang2 baca komen org malaysia.

    power to weigt ratio ke, torque to weight ratio ke, xsemestinya mengambarkan kete tu jimat minyak n power, byk faktor lain lagi.

    macam little fire ckp, power to weight ratio alza hebat sangat, ok, power to weight ratio adalah jumlah hp bahagi berat. kita amik alza, 102HP/104PS bahagi 1168kg(advanced version sebab baru adil nak compare dengan h-line exora dari segi equipment)=87.32hp pertonne, exora 125HP/127PS bahagi 1442kg(h-line)86.68hp pertonne. amik line premium auto, alza berat 1150=88.69 hp, exora m-line auto 1422kg=87.90hp, perbezaan power to weight ratio alza advance n exora h-line adalah 0.64hp pertonne, alza premium vs exora m-line=0.79hp pertonne.

    so hebat sangat ke beza 0.79hp n 0.64hp tuh sampai jadi powerful sangat. saya dah bagi figure, orang jugak cakap sebelum ni power to weight ratio. at least, dengan kekurangan bawah dari 1hp pertonne, exora bleh naik 7 orang dengan selesa, alza dengan 7 orang, lu pikirlah sendiri. adakah berbaloi 0.79hp tu dengan keselesaan?

    ada yg akan bangkitkan torque to weight ratio plak, dah tengok ke graf torque cps dan alza nih? cuba bandingkan berapa byk torque terhasil pada setiap rpm n selepas torque peak, berapa banyk dia jatuh sehingga rpm top peak hp. berapa cd n cl alza n exora. sume tu ,main peranan.

    lagipun, ini perbandingan yg agak kurang sesuai coz manual versus auto, why not buat perbandingan head to head, exora m-line manual, lawan alza premium manual naik tujuh orang(orang yang sama ketujuh2 skali) jumlah minyak dlm tank yang sama coz ni pun akan jadi perbezaan coz exora 55littr, alza 42 ltr rasanyak, so byk beza berat tuh. so nak jadi adil, kena sama, pastu, kedua2nya naik genting tanpa aircond coz xadil, exora dual blower versus single blower, beza gak tarik power tuh. so barula fair comparison. pastu tanya ketujuh org yang naik, mana lagi best, exora@alza yg dia orang nak naik genting kalu naik tujuh orang, amacam danny n paul, barulah org sume yg komen kat awak berdua, senyap. walupun saya xtau apa hasilnya, tapi my money on product from tanjung malim.

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  • 1.6 cps is of course better than 1.5 dvvt. the only reason it seems to be underpower(people assumption) because of its weight. yes, exora lost in term of torque to ratio pertonne, but its widen torque band along the rpm range, sustain its peak torque until the peak hp, and lower geared final drive already compensate the losing of torque pertonne by exora.

    even the torque is the same, but with diffent final drive, it will be better. try ur self climbing a hill using a bicycle, first, use the smallest gear, u will feel it is heavy/hard to cycle it up hill but if u change the gear to the bigger one, it will feel lighter and easy to climb the hill but of couse with lot more no of cycle compare the smaller gear. still the same person and stamina, but with different ratio, it makes lot of different and of course, it will rev higher than waja/gen2 cps.

    yes, cps engine is louder because when u rev until the cps zone, the cam profile being change to high profile, have u even driven high cam cars before, it sounds laouder than low cam profile cars. and if u noticed, there is no sound insulation under the hood which u can bought it urself at ah beng.

    and actually, the vocal engine also due to the aircond compressor, yela, lagi tinggi hp compressor, lagi kuat bunyi engine. nak dengar bunyi enjin, jgn pasang aircond. xdalah kuat sangat, kalu x, xkan orang 3rd row bleh berborak dengan driverkan.

    ini pendapat saya aje k.

    but if u said 1.6 valvematic or 1.6 dual vvti(if there is one), so i have to say that that is a little bit advanced and good compare to 1.6 cps in term of tech, but in term of real performance, need to test drive first.

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  • azrai on Dec 16, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    Myvi on fire?

    Alza soon to follow.

    http://www.kosmo.com.my/kosmo/content.asp?y=2009&…

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  • Red car on Dec 16, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    for me alza perfect car for those who have been driving alone or small famili. Space does not matter to those people or me either…however, i appreciated opinions from Paultan website…it's refreshing…hehe

    i guess some 12k people who was said to book this car must have some good reasons to buy it and definitely they dont trust most comments in this thread..

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  • carneo on Dec 16, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Paul, according to the search of the 3SZ-VE engine is made in China Tian Jin Toyota factory and suppose to be VVT- i but Perodua claim that is only DVVT it was same engine as 4WD Nautica(in malaysia) and 2WD Rush, event Toyota Malaysia call the 3SZ-VE for Rush as VVT-i. Is that when the engine mounted in Alza the VVT-i proccesor has been taken out in order to make the price more compatative hence the variable cam shaft link it to the mechanical actuator so it call DVVT.

    Is that any one know the story behind ?

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  • Lemau on Dec 16, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    redxdevil said,

    December 15, 2009 @ 11:11 am

    only NOOB buy alza.

    poor them

    This must be proton pathetic salesman..he he….

    Exora tu cantik ke ?? Pada aku, takde satu pun tarikan pada Exora ni…totally sucks !! Cuba korang tengok dari belakang, macam siot je…

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  • perodua just copy n paste from toyota model

    ,then sell for high price.

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  • @ntiPerOdua on Dec 16, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    Lemau said,

    December 16, 2009 @ 10:02 am

    redxdevil said,

    December 15, 2009 @ 11:11 am

    only NOOB buy alza.

    poor them

    This must be proton pathetic salesman..he he….

    Exora tu cantik ke ?? Pada aku, takde satu pun tarikan pada Exora ni…totally sucks !! Cuba korang tengok dari belakang, macam siot je…

    ———————————————————-

    u ingat Perodua Alza sangat cantak ke? Bagi saya Alza Depan sampai Belakag; Dalam & Luar, tengok pun nak saya muntah kao kao !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TOTALLY UGLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • roadrunner on Dec 16, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    guys,please testdrive this alza with 6 or 7 people in it…then judge it!

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  • anak dato' kk on Dec 16, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    Agreed with roadrunner, "guys,please test drive this alza with 6 or 7 people in it AND TEST DRIVE IT THROUGH KARAK HIGHWAY…..then judge it!"

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  • antutindih on Dec 16, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    jangan emotion sangat bro…….rilex aaaa

    kalo xnak beli udah laaa…….

    aku pun memang xakan beli la. memang suck la alza ni….

    ciplak model orang dan jual dengan harga tinggi……..

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  • JKucing on Dec 16, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    Still got 12k ppl buy it? then they must be blind? :D

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  • anak dato' kk on Dec 16, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    apa2pun, org yg ramai komplain ni bukannya apa, harga tak padan dgn barang, itu aje,kete nasional lak tu. Safety kalau ada pun ciput je. Jgn bg alasan sbb guna injin toyota jd kete kena jual mahal. Cherry easter pakai injin mitsubishi dan chana guna injin suzuki, tp takde la mahal sgt kete diorg ni. hmmm…..

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  • antutindih on Dec 16, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    ABS with EBD and Brake Assist, dual airbags, Bluetooth and USB connectivity

    semua nih tech 10 taun lepas bro….memang WTF.

    jangan beli la……barang memang xpadan ngan harga

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  • @ntiPerOdua on Dec 16, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    PROTON EXORA AWARDED 2009 BEST MINI MPV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THUMB UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • @ntiPerOdua on Dec 16, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    PERODUA ALZA AWARDED 2010 WORST MINI MPV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THUMB UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • gen2lama on Dec 16, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    waa….CBT award ka?…..

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  • Kelakar betul lah korang ni. Pasal ni pun nak gaduh2. Kalau tak suka, sudah. Jangan lah baca ruangan Alza ni. Banyak lagi ruangan kenderaan lain dalam Paultan.org ni. Baca yang mana korang suka sudah ler. Sebab gaduh2 pun aku tgk dah 12ribu tempahan gak p2 alza ni.

    So, takyah gaduh2 kata exora better, alza better. Bagi aku semua kereta M'sia harga dia tak sesuai dgn apa yg kita dapat…MAHAL. Kata Buatan Malaysia, Exora mahal, Alza pun mahal. Yang gumbira tetap bos perodua dan proton.

    Puiii~

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  • sebarau on Dec 16, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    kau org komen mcm wtf..nak beli,beli tak nak beli sudah….

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  • gen2lama on Dec 16, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    hmmm…viva dont win ka?….p2 dont win anything ka?….

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  • anak dato' kk on Dec 17, 2009 at 2:16 am

    Boss p2 ada menang….

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  • Danialhakim on Dec 17, 2009 at 2:24 am

    Try

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  • danialhakim (Member) on Dec 17, 2009 at 2:35 am

    Going to test drive 1st

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  • raiden on Dec 17, 2009 at 2:38 am

    agree with sebarau.komen cam takde otak je.yang cakap pasal sale ferrari sikit tp barang baik pun ada jugak!nak kata proton cam ferrari la 2,haha!memang lawak btol la.ferrari 2 handmade,rare,eksklusif.kalau banyak xde lah harga dia juta2.Pendek kata,beli je alza.korang beli besar2 pun kdekut jgk nak bawak orang.p kerja naik sorang je,semak jalanraya.

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  • danialhakim (Member) on Dec 17, 2009 at 2:50 am

    stuju with raiden not with antiperodua

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  • farghmee on Dec 17, 2009 at 2:52 am

    sarcasm mode on>>

    wei bai..kalu cmtu beli apa2 pn menyemak jln gak. baik jln kaki..haha

    lenkali nk komen, biarla ilmiah cket.

    tgk cm komen bro. Mat tu :)

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  • BRAZBUZ on Dec 17, 2009 at 6:37 am

    psl hrga xleh nk komplen la…

    tnye r kerajaan…

    cukai cekik darah…

    rakyat didahulukan….konon

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  • mu_77 on Dec 17, 2009 at 6:55 am

    the back of alza look like fat turtle myvi… yucks… The front is good looking, not bad…

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  • Ah Chye on Dec 17, 2009 at 7:49 am

    perodua SUCKS!!!!

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  • azurin on Dec 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    helo paul,

    did u noticed the sssss wind sound while u test drive this alza?i noticed the sss sound on the driver seat side when i test drive this car,

    the salesman said there is a rubber near the side mirror,and it was taken out by a child (since the car is the test drive unit.)…confused..

    can u explain on this…

    Danny Tan says: Wind noise started quite early in our test unit, even below 80km/h there were already some wind rustle on the driver's wing mirror area. Sorry, forgot to mention before this.

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  • Aku dah angkat Alza. Currently drive Myvi. Aku compare ngan Myvi je.. so kira ok la. anak 4 bini 1 boleh la muat. sebelum ni pun pack dlm Myvi, paling tidak sorang satu dapat la pakai seat belt. Ruang barang tak besar untuk kete hatchback, Myvi besar sikit je. kalau aku nak bawak barang, aku pakai 2 row je la.

    Sekarang pakai Myvi ngan Alza kira ok la. minyak pun kira ok. kalau jalan jauh sikit semua muat dlm Alza, dekatx2 Myvi cukup. Kalau Exora tu besar lagi. nak lagi besar Ria la. RM pun ok untuk Ria Basic.

    Kalau timbang kati aku bagi Ria, Exora baru Alza. Tapi yg pasti Perodua ni so far ok la, Myvi aku lenjan gilax2 pun steady je. kalau kira RM/size aku rasa Perodua tak la murah sangat. Tapi pikirkan pengalaman ngan kete sebelum ni asyik problem power window, centralocking, door handle, engin leaking, lower arm, bearing belakang, bonet masuk air, aircon, gearbox, plastik patah sane sini aku gagahkan gak la angakat Perodua. Aku rasa antara sebab dah ramai angkat Alza sebab hakikatnya tetap sama, orang yg pernah ade pengalaman akan terus berhati-hati.

    Nak pakai kete idaman (conti) tak dapat la buat masa ni. Tapi ngan Perodua tak la kecewa sangat compare ngan yg sebelum ni. Lagi pun resale pun bagus (mane la tahu kalau boleh angkat conti. nanti).

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  • fasgen on Dec 18, 2009 at 6:06 am

    aku tak paham kenapa kete perodua even kancil burok pun 2nd hand, takde harga bawah 10k? myvi yang lama2 tu takde bawah 30k, tapi proton gen2, waja, tahun yang sama lebih murah hargannya dari p2. 22k tahun 04. memang tak adil la pasaran. boleh jawab?

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  • peYno on Dec 18, 2009 at 11:35 am

    Mr Alza..

    hehehe typical p2 salesman… macam org tak tau

    prrrfthhh

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  • Blurrpp on Dec 18, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    Alza said,

    December 17, 2009 @ 9:37 pm

    Aku dah angkat Alza. Currently drive Myvi. Aku compare ngan Myvi je.. so kira ok la. anak 4 bini 1 boleh la muat. sebelum ni pun pack dlm Myvi, paling tidak sorang satu dapat la pakai seat belt. Ruang barang tak besar untuk kete hatchback, Myvi besar sikit je. kalau aku nak bawak barang, aku pakai 2 row je la.

    Sekarang pakai Myvi ngan Alza kira ok la. minyak pun kira ok. kalau jalan jauh sikit semua muat dlm Alza, dekatx2 Myvi cukup. Kalau Exora tu besar lagi. nak lagi besar Ria la. RM pun ok untuk Ria Basic.

    Kalau timbang kati aku bagi Ria, Exora baru Alza. Tapi yg pasti Perodua ni so far ok la, Myvi aku lenjan gilax2 pun steady je. kalau kira RM/size aku rasa Perodua tak la murah sangat. Tapi pikirkan pengalaman ngan kete sebelum ni asyik problem power window, centralocking, door handle, engin leaking, lower arm, bearing belakang, bonet masuk air, aircon, gearbox, plastik patah sane sini aku gagahkan gak la angakat Perodua. Aku rasa antara sebab dah ramai angkat Alza sebab hakikatnya tetap sama, orang yg pernah ade pengalaman akan terus berhati-hati.

    Nak pakai kete idaman (conti) tak dapat la buat masa ni. Tapi ngan Perodua tak la kecewa sangat compare ngan yg sebelum ni. Lagi pun resale pun bagus (mane la tahu kalau boleh angkat conti. nanti).

    —————————————————————-

    What type of CAR BRAND did u used before that caused u a lot (money & trouble)?? Care to share?? hahaha.. i think i know……..dont mention!! i know how u feel bro.. been in ur shoe also before…

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  • kanasai on Dec 18, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    i went to ask for test drive, but the sales man said only those that already booked the car can arrange for test drive, not open for public.

    really kanasai…

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  • Betul tu mr alza, people always berhati2 sekarang.

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  • Aku dah angkat Alza. Currently drive Myvi. Aku compare ngan Myvi je.. so kira ok la. anak 4 bini 1 boleh la muat. sebelum ni pun pack dlm Myvi, paling tidak sorang satu dapat la pakai seat belt. Ruang barang tak besar untuk kete hatchback, Myvi besar sikit je. kalau aku nak bawak barang, aku pakai 2 row je la.

    Sekarang pakai Myvi ngan Alza kira ok la. minyak pun kira ok. kalau jalan jauh sikit semua muat dlm Alza, dekatx2 Myvi cukup. Kalau Exora tu besar lagi. nak lagi besar Ria la. RM pun ok untuk Ria Basic.

    Kalau timbang kati aku bagi Ria, Exora baru Alza. Tapi yg pasti Perodua ni so far ok la, Myvi aku lenjan gilax2 pun steady je. kalau kira RM/size aku rasa Perodua tak la murah sangat. Tapi pikirkan pengalaman ngan kete sebelum ni asyik problem power window, centralocking, door handle, engin leaking, lower arm, bearing belakang, bonet masuk air, aircon, gearbox, plastik patah sane sini aku gagahkan gak la angakat Perodua. Aku rasa antara sebab dah ramai angkat Alza sebab hakikatnya tetap sama, orang yg pernah ade pengalaman akan terus berhati-hati.

    Nak pakai kete idaman (conti) tak dapat la buat masa ni. Tapi ngan Perodua tak la kecewa sangat compare ngan yg sebelum ni. Lagi pun resale pun bagus (mane la tahu kalau boleh angkat conti. nanti).

    SA Produa

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  • Blurrpp on Dec 18, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    @ntiPerOdua said,

    December 16, 2009 @ 1:25 pm

    PERODUA ALZA AWARDED 2010 WORST MINI MPV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THUMB UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    SA Proton

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  • so jangan beli proton..keta busuk

    NISSAN user

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  • alza10 on Dec 19, 2009 at 8:34 am

    at least 90%++ alza components' are local…not imported

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  • Mr Yakob on Dec 19, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    i personally dont like the gear.. so small

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  • Ha Gnih on Dec 19, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Alza, 1 driver + 1 front passenger = Good

    Alza, 1 driver + 1 front passenger + 1 rear passenger = still good

    Alza, 1 driver + 1 front passenger + 2 rear passengers = still good

    Alza, 1 driver + 1 front passenger + 3 rear passengers = Uhmmmm………ok ok la

    Alza, 1 driver + 1 front passenger + 3 rear passengers + 2 last row passengers = The car roars loudly as it tries to pick up speed from a stand still. Revs high and consumed lotsa petrol.

    Conclusion :

    Alza as a car is not a problem, but when it turned into an MPV with full load 7 passengers, it's kinda striving. I wonder if Perodua has a future plan of fitting the Alza with a 1.8 engine ? Well, just like Toyota Wish, 1.8, no problem is lugging around full load and petrol consumption is minimised by 22%. Amazing !

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  • Ha Gnih on Dec 19, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    By the way, the above are the findings for the automatic variant

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  • malaysia memang bole on Dec 19, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    alza……….my first impression is too small for mpv………quite weird for a car………not a car neither a mpv…..just a box with a 1.5 engine……or maybe myvi added with a long box at the rear…….exora is way better…..but problems with exora is the quality…..would it last-long and survive……any exora's owner can prove me that exora is a damn good car……

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  • anak dato' kk on Dec 19, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    You pay nuts, you get monkey…. if wan a damn good car, pay more la. No need to buy Alza or Exora, go for stream, wish, grandis, alphard, estima, elgrand etc. Cheap car must not perfect….face the fact!

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  • Can cruise control be fitted onto Perodua alza ? Can anyone comment ?

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  • Oscar on Dec 19, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    Personally i feel that i will choose Exora over Alza. And Alza over Avanza. Reason is being simple, for a MPV. I will look for space in the 3rd row . And also, with good handling especially 100km/h and over. I personally feel that Exora statisifed the requirements . However, if i were to look for a hatchback, i will choose Alza. The third row will be my enlarged boot. And also, Avanza in my opionion looks like a van. Not very sporty as a MPV, hatchback or even a van. Its ugly. I was hoping that both Proton and Perodua to develop SUV. It will be much better.

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  • Peter on Dec 20, 2009 at 12:01 am

    Lucky perodua rebadge toyota passo sette. If they rebadge daihatsu materia….I think Perodua will be losing money alot…I think Alza is worse than Exora. Exora got 4 star for EURO safety test. Er, Perodua???? I dunnoe. Furthermore, Alza is not a MPV. My children also cannot sit inside the 3rd row. Alza is like Myvi with bigger back. So i think i will buy a Exora for my family with 7 people.

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  • interesting that some really want to discuss about space in 5+2 alza. already knew but still want to compare with exora. why not ria or citra of nearly almost the same price range.

    its seem that some just want to compare P1 and P2. the same situation when myvi and syvvi were out. alza is small and big exora is truly 7 seat that are the fact. if we keep comparing the size (thing that already knew) P2 will never make alza any bigger and make another model like grand alza to par with exora. it P2 strategies to do compact taking from Daihatsu base model for malaysia. so far its work for them.

    when i ask my wife what she want to drive daily to office and send kids to school. she say that she just want something small and easy to drive ie savvy , kelisa, viva. but then i think that we do not have family car (so far we all cramp in my myvi) like exora price range (our budget). then she said ok but not exora or ria because she don't want to carry 3 school kids in big car daily to school and busy road to office with so much petrol. thus we go for alza that just met our requirement.

    i sure many other kl people of the same budget and family size would share the same. it relay much depand on our requirement, some just fancy the space and always looking forward to 'balik kampung'. some just want to be realistic and cost saving. some just have bad experiences on specific model and fobia to keep visiting the workshop thus turn to the reliable one. some just try something new, as long as its a new model surely buy.

    up to our requirement our decision, anyway also check our pocket. i know some can afford to get wish, stream, estima etc please understand that i only can get alza kind of budget, no need to underrate P1 and P2 on the quality-every body know.

    for those how already get alza or soon to get it, congratulation and please share your honest experience with us.

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  • Mycrophone on Dec 20, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Dear Brother Alza,

    I'll thanks on what you said, what you said is what I wish to say to stop this kind of "WAR"!!! What you said is truth, its depends on individual needs, not this car is better than that car, or this car is worse than that car and so forth.

    Very bored to hear that already. Ya, the HONEST experience is very important to us. Thus, for those Alza Owner, please be really sincere on your Driving Experience Sharing (I mean don't only mention the Pros since you are having the Alza, how about the Cons?) What I concern is something like the Wind Sound, is that really bad like the other Forum discuss about? Thanks…

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  • Oscar on Dec 20, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    I didn't really compare about both Exora and Alza. But i feel that if i am looking for a MPV, i will choose Exora between the 2. While i am looking for a hatchback, i will consider Alza over Myvi. Well, in my opinions, both are different categories of cars. Cant compare much. Well, if comparing to Naza citra,ria or Chery Mpv, i think you are also wrong. I don't think you can compare a Exora which is a 1.6 engine vs those with 2.0 engine or 2.4 engine. They are different . Also, Exora's main competitor would be Nissan Livina , Toyota Avanza, and also HONDA freed if possible. But i will still choose Exora between all these. It is spacious, has power and also good handling. I have tried Alza and Myvi too. Feels that Alza is much more stable now, compare to Myvi.

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  • jamal on Dec 20, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    i just went to perodue centre this morning..just wanna make comparison between persona SE and this car..pearl white attract me a lot..the price compare to persona SE a bit cheaper lah…about RM50 like dat..but when I think it back, I'm still single what for I buy this MPV? so, I decided to buy Persona SE lah..then the seats at the back also too small…the space between the midle seat too close to each other..thus it make it less spacy…but it engine sounds good coz it uses Toyata's engine…so this MPV is not Malaysian at all lah hooo?

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  • persona_Gen25610 on Dec 20, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    I LIKE THAT PLATE NUMBER WTF!!!! huhuhu

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  • X Bodoh Sombong on Dec 21, 2009 at 3:48 am

    i already seee this car on the road..near sungai petani…. this car really WTF!! look like Viva and alittel bit myvi… WTF… dissapointing

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  • alldisc on Dec 21, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Peter said,

    December 19, 2009 @ 4:01 pm

    Lucky perodua rebadge toyota passo sette. If they rebadge daihatsu materia….I think Perodua will be losing money alot…I think Alza is worse than Exora. Exora got 4 star for EURO safety test. Er, Perodua???? I dunnoe. Furthermore, Alza is not a MPV. My children also cannot sit inside the 3rd row. Alza is like Myvi with bigger back. So i think i will buy a Exora for my family with 7 people.

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    yes, Alza is a micro MPV. its multi-purpose, yes, but its just too small. the price does justify it – so really this car is not a big issue at all.

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  • SRi-viva on Dec 21, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    I cancelled my booking on this as I found the seat ergonimic is quite similar to Viva..it will create pain at the back of my knees in the long run. This ergonomic reliability could not be attested by a test drive and you'll only know it once you use it!

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  • What about putting ALZA's engine in an EXORA and called it '1MALAYSIA. Any comments?>

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  • Kereta Juga Supersed on Dec 21, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    VPI said,

    December 21, 2009 @ 12:40 pm

    What about putting ALZA’s engine in an EXORA and called it ‘1MALAYSIA. Any comments?>

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    U mean Campro CPS in Alza? u still in Primary School right? the school season is around the corner brother..

    Exora can suit Toyota Wish engine…. so what to do? Buy Base Line Exora and u got a Exorish… as simple as that..

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  • fazron80 on Dec 22, 2009 at 10:49 am

    But CPS is soo powerfull than wish heheh. Maybe better to put alphard engine in exora then become Exorhard.

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  • chuasoilek on Dec 22, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    haiiiyaaaa…..if wan power & performance bolt on turbo kits la your mpv…….if wan space buy a hino or scania bus loorr…..

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  • Gugur Daun on Dec 22, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Macam2 pendapat ada. Kalau tak suka, maknanya anda bukan dalam golongan sasaran. Kalau suka, anda mungkin dalam golongan sasaran.

    Cuba baca apa yang Perodua MD Syed Hafiz cakap berkenaan golongan sasaran ni sebelum komen, tapi yela masing-masing berhak atas pendapat masing-masing cuma kadang2 bunyinya lebih pada propaganda je.

    Pada saya, performance tak penting asalkan memadai. 3rd-row seater tak penting, boleh guna ruang tu untuk boot, tapi bagus jugak kalau ada, mungkin boleh guna nanti. Nak amik sedan, kurang versatile sebab saya suka beli perabot dan yang seangkatan dengannya, cash & carry. Design lagi cantik dari lain2 option, tapi tu subjektif. Harga tak la mahal sangat. Kualiti perodua ikut pengalaman, ok, tak banyak komplen.

    Nak tunggu Alza AE tahun depan baru beli, tapi GPS tu tak integrated la.. wayar kat luar. hehe

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  • MyDear on Dec 23, 2009 at 1:59 am

    ALZA .. myvi killers .. many will opt to alza .. and it is not exora or other mpv killers :D

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  • kojik on Dec 23, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    i prefer my wish!

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  • at last just got my silver alza yesterday after 3 mths waiting. What a beauty

    this colour especially under d sun that sparkling silver & d uv glass does feel

    less heat under d sunlight. After double check d outside & inside d car i quickly signed all d documents & hop on to it step away from d showroom.

    on my way out from d junction i litely step bout 1/4 of d throttle d car felt lite

    & lively responsive bit like a shoot out feeling with my bro inlaw beside me.

    d a/t gear changes smoothly until i reached d roundabout to slow down & stop for traffic. however d brake feels bit deep which u hv to step further down to stop d car may b coz mine is std without abs. after that i use short

    cut road going uphill back to my house which d car felt bit sluggish on d way

    up tough d a/t gear was smooth. thats only when i wanted to switch off d o/d

    i realise there isnt an o/d switch that normal a/t car has. this may take time

    getting used to coz usually i switch off o/d to overtake or going uphill slop.

    but d cornering of d car is pretty good during uphill & downhill mostly at +-

    50km especially its quite a long car.

    going into d road towards my house i noticed there were some noise like

    metal loose from d back when i passed those road hump. 1st thing i did when

    i reached home i opened d back & checked d tool compartment just as i

    thought it was d plastic bag that contains spaner & screwdriver that cause d

    noise. all i did to solve it was to put it under d driver's seat & wala no more

    metal noise. actually this mpv really suits me just nice in therms of price,

    space & styling coz i'm only 170cm with a 12yr old son, my wife, maid, bro,

    sis & mother inlaw =7 ppl ngam ngam. i hv tried adjusting all d seats at best

    comfort position starting from d 1st then 2nd row & at d end i climbed in d

    3rd row & my knees still hv a vertical fist gap from d 2nd row back even

    tough bit reclined backwards. also when i get out from d 3rd row i felt easier

    not to bend so much like livina which my neighbour has. I'm still d tallest in my

    family & if i can sit comfortly then i dont think there b any problem with them.

    cant wait to take them all out on x'mas eve with my new alza & give more test

    drive experience here. merry x'mas & happy new year!

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  • congratulation f1,

    you just won an oscar …… for the very touching tales of aiza cinderella..

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  • baha69 on Dec 24, 2009 at 3:44 am

    Saya baru beli Alza Auto, Orang cakap kereta baru tak boleh bawa laju-laju, tapi pada hari pertama saya telah membawanya 140km/j itupun tak tekan minyak sampai habis. Sebelum ini saya mempunyai kereta wira 1.5 manual, memang saya dapat rasakan perbezaan apabila memandu kereta ini kerana pengendaliannya begitu mantap dan padat. ruang dalamnya terasa begitu selesa dan tenang. cuma ada bunyi angin dibahagian side mirror sebelah kiri dan perkara ini juga dirasakan oleh pembeli yg lain tetapi yang penting sekali ialah bunyi injin yang senyap dan smooth. Selepas servis yg pertama kereta saya terasa lebih bertenaga dan semakin laju. Bagi saya secara peribadi, saya amat berpuashati dengan kereta ini.

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  • Saw the car oops MPV on the road, looks funny (kelakar)!

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  • kojik on Dec 24, 2009 at 9:26 am

    baha69 said,

    December 23, 2009 @ 7:44 pm

    Saya baru beli Alza Auto, Orang cakap kereta baru tak boleh bawa laju-laju, tapi pada hari pertama saya telah membawanya 140km/j itupun tak tekan minyak sampai habis. Sebelum ini saya mempunyai kereta wira 1.5 manual, memang saya dapat rasakan perbezaan apabila memandu kereta ini kerana pengendaliannya begitu mantap dan padat. ruang dalamnya terasa begitu selesa dan tenang. cuma ada bunyi angin dibahagian side mirror sebelah kiri dan perkara ini juga dirasakan oleh pembeli yg lain tetapi yang penting sekali ialah bunyi injin yang senyap dan smooth. Selepas servis yg pertama kereta saya terasa lebih bertenaga dan semakin laju. Bagi saya secara peribadi, saya amat berpuashati dengan kereta ini.

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    140 km/j???

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  • critism on Dec 24, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Congratulation F1 and Baha69. Base on ur comments, it looks like both of u are really happy and satisfied with ur car. And those negative comments posted here doesnt effect u at all..

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  • anak dato' kk on Dec 24, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    140km/j? Kalau nak bawak 200km/j pun boleh walaupun br hari pertama kete tu dibeli. Tp kena baca manual dulu, brp speed n rpm yg disarankan utk 1000km yg pertama. Nanti, kalau jd apa2 kat injin, kita jugak yg susah. Walaupun under warranty, tak kan p2 nak ganti injin baru. Mesti diorg cuba baiki dulu. Tp kalau kita tak ikut apa yg disarankan dalam manual, tak ke itu akan void warranty. Lgpun, bukan boleh siap sehari kalau dah major problem. Apa2pun, gud luck pd yg dah dpt kete. Harap yg review kat sini bukan salesman yg sales target tak tercapai!….hmmm….

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  • azrai on Dec 24, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Exora can reach 180km/h dear baha69. That's even before the 1st service, without even goyang-goyang or noice coming inside. Anyway, the rcommended speed for first 1k km are under 120km/h.

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  • anak dato' kk on Dec 24, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    agreed with azrai. 180km/j, camne, ada brani? My kenari also can reach 140km/h la….

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  • farghmee on Dec 24, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    for the 1st 1000km, dun exceed the recommended highest speed stated in the manual…

    for a new '09 alza owner, making a comparison with 90's wira, the superior "feeling" is always go to the alza as expected from a new car :)

    in an mpv, topspeed isn't a must. comfort is a priority.

    congrats, & have a safe journey during this festive season! 8)

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  • nurse ieda on Dec 24, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    well..i already buy alza and test drive,which is worth buying for me,value for money.also have nice interior front row comfortable for driving.

    for 3rd row seat that one just use for kids only but u can adjust 2nd row seat for wider space.this quite good,not all mpv having this option i guess.

    but if i got alza within one i like to add on body kit & facelift..for exterior view it will be much good…so far i really like this mini mpv..go for malaysian brand!!

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  • nurse ieda on Dec 24, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    i prefer gear yang lebih besar sket..it seem little toy like my baby will play with this gear easily haha..not really comfortable i think,but maybe i dah terbiasa dgn wira auto dulu.

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  • azrai on Dec 24, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    nurse ieda said,

    December 24, 2009 @ 2:02 pm

    well..i already buy alza and test drive,which is worth buying for me,value for money.also have nice interior front row comfortable for driving.

    for 3rd row seat that one just use for kids only but u can adjust 2nd row seat for wider space.this quite good,not all mpv having this option i guess.

    but if i got alza within one i like to add on body kit & facelift..for exterior view it will be much good…so far i really like this mini mpv..go for malaysian brand!!

    Yes. the P2 product really suitable for girl and moms actually. Nurse ieda prove it. And she like 'big' gear. What big gear? I think the big gear knob actually. Somehow, in last Friday's Berita Harian, the author said that Alza is more suitable as a car. People who wish for MPV by buying Alza will regret it. those are what he says.

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  • y some of u really no brainer asking ppl to drive 140-180km for what?

    commit suicide? so what if 1 can drive 140-180km with this car is there

    any prize or money? u gonna give how much money in order to put d driver

    or passenger's live in danger? even if i said i drove 180km with this car

    would u believe it? whats d point here? pls grow up 1st then give some

    common sense. for god sake its a family car not a ferrari hai mat rempit!

    even more no brainer 1 said p2 product really suitable for female, hey pls

    tell me y there's fat guy driving kancil? y there's tall guy driving kelisa/viva?

    y some girl drives a harrier & some mom drives an alphad? at d end of d

    day its not whats suits u its how much cash u hv. u think all hv many choice?

    last nite went for dinner & makan angin with my family all 7 ppl in my alza

    was really enjoyable & comfort. d fastest i drove was 80km & d rpm was

    around 2100, d a/t gear changes smoothly & silently & air cond was cool

    even until d 3rd row i can feel it with a/c speed at 2. 1 time i even ask my

    bro inlaw to drive so i can seat at 3rd row to get a feel d ride at d back.

    u can feel more a/c air to d back especially u turn d centre vents blowing

    upwards toward d ceiling. the ride was quite comfy at d last row however

    u still can hear some tyire noise which i guess its d rubber rubbing the road

    which cant do anything unless i change to better tyire.

    so far i hv no problem rite now & i hv no regret of this car/mpv & only for

    those who really got hands on experience know its value for money.

    not those simply talk air without really experience giving stupid bias

    comment.

    merry xmas & happy new year!

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  • Alza user, that is what you should do to get the best performance of the AC. Set the center AC register outlet toward the center and upward , thus cool air will flow nicely below the roof liner and reach the 3rd & 2ndrow. for front driver, user the round AC outlet. i think wish and previous stream 1.7 also apply the same concept.

    many people don't know how to adjust the outlet. if we put straight and normal or low level outlet the cool air will be blocked by the 2nd row.

    this is personal opinion only, other may have other method for better result. please share.

    enjoy your alza and drive safely + reasonably

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  • autojohndoe on Dec 27, 2009 at 7:53 am

    for Mr F1,

    Congrats on the new car…

     

    just for your info and not to tease you, in japan, yes, this car was designed to capture the ladies buyer… not to insult you but it is in JAPAN…

     

    BTW, congrats on you purchase.

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  • beesixslow on Dec 27, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    nice review paul!

    sayapdewa said,

    December 16, 2009 @ <a title="Permanent link to this comment" href="#comment-282565" rel="nofollow">1:56 am

    the awkward mpv ever…typical malaysian always compare the look/performance etc rather than safety…goverment should deploy all car maker to produce at least 2 air bag every car registered in this country…

    just like europe did even proton in europe more safety than ours…

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    semua sibuk cakap pasal safety..nak abs la..airbag la…nak ada crash test la..nak ada EURO test la..PAKAI SEAT BELT 2 BETUL2 dulu la…

    Lg satu…x abis2 nak compare semua spec exora dgn alza..dok hulu mana la korang ni?

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  • NHC rider on Dec 27, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    i don't need MPV since all of my friends using whatever brand MPV never fully utilised that MPV and rarely use third row seat. trust me you'll only use third row seat 8 time per year. what waste for fuel and high monthly and interest that you have to pay every months. Sedan away much better….so stop arguing for this MPV cos all MPV is just a cr** sh**t machine both exora and alza also avanza and avanza. hahahah

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  • nurse ieda on Dec 28, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Alza user, that is what you should do to get the best performance of the AC. Set the center AC register outlet toward the center and upward , thus cool air will flow nicely below the roof liner and reach the 3rd & 2ndrow. for front driver, user the round AC outlet. i think wish and previous stream 1.7 also apply the same concept.

    many people don’t know how to adjust the outlet. if we put straight and normal or low level outlet the cool air will be blocked by the 2nd row.

    this is personal opinion only, other may have other method for better result. please share.

    enjoy your alza and drive safely + reasonably

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    ermm..this is good idea..

    thanks

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  • nurse ieda on Dec 28, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Alza user, that is what you should do to get the best performance of the AC. Set the center AC register outlet toward the center and upward , thus cool air will flow nicely below the roof liner and reach the 3rd & 2ndrow. for front driver, user the round AC outlet. i think wish and previous stream 1.7 also apply the same concept.

    many people don’t know how to adjust the outlet. if we put straight and normal or low level outlet the cool air will be blocked by the 2nd row.

    this is personal opinion only, other may have other method for better result. please share.

    enjoy your alza and drive safely + reasonably

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    this is good idea…

    thanks for suggestion

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  • nurse ieda on Dec 28, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    for those driving sedan b4 this when u drive mpv memang different la weeii..tak payah la nak compare this si comel alza ngan sedan car..benggong aper korang nih..

    ni i nak recommended pada moms & small family..this car really nice..kalo pakai kereta mahal2 nanti penyamun besar mata beb!!haha..bahaya laa..

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  • NHC rider on Dec 28, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    nowdays MPV most look like a Van and minivan or mini truck. so why pay more if you can get Van with 8 seat cheaper than 7 seater MPV and can take out all seat for loading big funiture inside it. almost people drive big a*s MPV with one or two people only, what a joke.hahaha

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  • NHC rider on Dec 28, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    aku dah bawak mcm2 kereta smapai ke lori. tp MPV nak parking kat parking keta memang menyusahkan. dah la lebar dan panjang. drive MPV memang beza ngan sedan dan cermin blakang jauh cam van. alza ok la kut kalau tgk depan tak mcm MPV pun sb kecik kukukuh kakaka

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  • NHC rider on Dec 28, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    anyway alza memang comel dr vios baru tu.

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  • azrai on Dec 28, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    Mr F1, those comments are not bias. It is a fact. Why 180km/h Exora? Because baha69 mention his Alza can reach 140km/h. Daihatsu market are nichcely for women in Japan, just like Pasola motorbike for women. It is not a biased statement. It is a fact of marketing. And you know what, nurse ieda really like it because that's the target market. While for the Berita harian Auto review, it is a neutral statement from the writer/automotive reporter. he sais, whoever buy Alza to use it as MPV will regret it because it is more suitable as a car. That's all. Come on man. Even some people compare Savvy with Myvi last time. For Exora, their sales for Oct and Nov has some dip. Those who use Alza have also mentioned about wind noise coming in at 80km/h and feeling hot at the rear right side seat (where the exhaust located). No things is perfect except God creations.

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  • nurse ieda on Dec 28, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    aku dah bawak mcm2 kereta smapai ke lori. tp MPV nak parking kat parking keta memang menyusahkan. dah la lebar dan panjang. drive MPV memang beza ngan sedan dan cermin blakang jauh cam van. alza ok la kut kalau tgk depan tak mcm MPV pun sb kecik kukukuh kakaka

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    big MPV very difficult to parking..with this si comel alza quite easy like sedan too..

    tak payah pening kepala adjust sana sini,as a women actually engine powerfull or not doesnt matter 1.5 for alza i think quite good mini MPV..

    just drive within kl city pergi kerja balik kerja,ambil anak,shopping..most important save petrol..betul tak?

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  • azrai on Dec 28, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    big MPV very difficult to parking..with this si comel alza quite easy like sedan too..

    tak payah pening kepala adjust sana sini,as a women actually engine powerfull or not doesnt matter 1.5 for alza i think quite good mini MPV..

    just drive within kl city pergi kerja balik kerja,ambil anak,shopping..most important save petrol..betul tak?

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    If then, just use Viva or Myvi.

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  • anak dato' kk on Dec 29, 2009 at 4:30 am

    …. or maybe 2nd hand kancil 660?

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  • xptmsb07_09 (Member) on Dec 29, 2009 at 6:55 am

    Orang cakap kereta baru tak boleh bawa laju-laju, tapi pada hari pertama saya telah membawanya 140km/j itupun tak tekan minyak sampai habis…

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    hehehe.. xpe.. tak usah pantangkan keta 2 sangat.. keta baru siap lum keluar kilang pun diaorg dah belasah keta 2… tekan sampai habis.. max selagi boleh, bukan ape tuk testing.. so tak heran la leh dapat140km/j or 1++km/j.. satu lg, nasib baik tak kena saman.. kalo tak sia2 je buang rm300.. lebih teruk kalau lggar org.. 140km/j keta 5star pun leh mati.. so bwk je 64km/j baru 5star itu berguna nilainya.. heheheh

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  • xptmsb07_09 (Member) on Dec 29, 2009 at 7:29 am

    kalau la.. ni kalau… kalau da duit n tak nak membazir elok rasanye beli alza n exora.. sbb alza leh pakai g keja n antar anak2 g sekolah.. time ni wat pe extra ruang.. fit2 je dah, baru jimat minyak.. ni keta beso duk dalam 4org je.. pekan jalan sekit2 duk jem je, nak tarik body beso guna bnyk minyak.. errr membazir.. alza the best ni ct.. tp kalau balik kg or g hlyday rasany elok exora.. besar n selesa.. leh beli brg bnyk2 bwk balik dr kg.. alza kecik cikit la.. mmg la tak hari2 balik kg tp sekali nak balik mmg terasa nk guna keta yg beso.. kalau mcam aku, dr johor baru balik kuala perlis, kalau ruang kecik terasa terseksa, walau pun bukan aku yg duk belakang.. jalan jauh nk selesa.. bru tak penat sangat.. exora the best nak blik kg.. naza ria? peh minyak tak berai nak sebut.. berpeluh beb.. naza ria mpv mewah?? errr semuanye tarasa mewah.. so beli je P1 n P2 mpv sekali 2.. gogo P1n P2..

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  • @ntiperodua on Dec 29, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    danialhakim said,

    December 16, 2009 @ 6:50 pm

    stuju with raiden not with antiperodua

    —————————————————————–

    really ?????????????

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  • nurse ieda on Dec 29, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    If then, just use Viva or Myvi.

    —————————–

    already drive myvi..borrow my sis car,erm lagi suka alza lah..hehe

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  • anak dato' kk on Dec 29, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    hehehe.. xpe.. tak usah pantangkan keta 2 sangat.. keta baru siap lum keluar kilang pun diaorg dah belasah keta 2… tekan sampai habis.. max selagi boleh, bukan ape tuk testing.. so tak heran la leh dapat140km/j or 1++km/j..

    ______________________________________________________________________

    diorg tekan sampai habis takpe, kalau jahanam pun bukan kete diorg. So, baik ikut apa yg disarankan dalam manual. Nanti kalau jd apa2 pasti akan menyusahkan walaupun masih under warranty…

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  • azrai on Dec 29, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    already drive myvi..borrow my sis car,erm lagi suka alza lah..hehe

    —————————–

    Just because it is a new car, you opt to like Alza more. Somehow, some people who drove Alza says it is a 'lebih kurang' like driving a myvi. What's your experience on this.

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  • Oscar on Dec 30, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    Please la….Alza is not our own car la. It is toyota passo sette rebadge. You can also say Alza is malaysian toyota passo sette. Perodua is not even doing any design or building engine . Perodua has to do something to build cars and not keep rebadging. Also, Cars which Perodua rebadge are all old daihatsu design. They are all not the latest in terms of design and engine .

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  • madimat on Dec 30, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Seeing more and more new Exoras more often on the road after Alza's launch…

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  • PeYn0 Fanz on Dec 30, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    madimat said,

    December 30, 2009 @ 12:42 pm

    Seeing more and more new Exoras more often on the road after Alza’s launch…

    —-

    hoi..long time no see… exam haha?

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  • Jimat on Dec 31, 2009 at 1:17 am

    kalau nak compare harga,saiz,performance…lebih baik EXORA..

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  • zzz9359 (Member) on Dec 31, 2009 at 2:31 am

    if we compare price for the same vesion…the diff in price only 5K…for eg full version for Exora is nearly RM75K…while ALZA nearly RM70K.

    It really look like ALZA price was expensive (over price) if we compare all the spec.

    If you really want to buy MPV…buy Exora la…kalau nak beli kereta perasan MPV beli ALZA lah

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  • aku baru dapat alza yg i order bulan lalu… mula2 ingat boleh dpt kete minggu lepas tapi salesman kata demobilazer tak fungsi…kena antar repair… semalam gi ambil kete baru tau lampu fog/radio/air con tak nyala… kena antar repair lagi… bila check baru tau fuis lampu takde… very disappointed ngan qc perodua…bila kete local improve…..atuhai

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  • madimat on Dec 31, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    PeYn0 Fanz said,

    hoi..long time no see… exam haha?

    ————-

    yo bro,

    why shud i go to exam lah,.. not a student anymore :) 38y/o next year, full time working and following Mr Paul Tan's forum everyday. 2010 will be a very interesting motoring year indeed. So stick your mouse to paultan.org and continue to support Mr Paul's blog ya!

    happy new year, peace all .

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  • Oscar on Dec 31, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    zzz9359 said,

    December 30, 2009 @ 6:31 pm

    if we compare price for the same vesion…the diff in price only 5K…for eg full version for Exora is nearly RM75K…while ALZA nearly RM70K.

    It really look like ALZA price was expensive (over price) if we compare all the spec.

    If you really want to buy MPV…buy Exora la…kalau nak beli kereta perasan MPV beli ALZA lah

    Bro, i agree with you. For MPV, i think Exora is much better. Perodua is not a very good company. Rebadge old daihatsu design with old engine. Still sell so expensive. Some more, perodua 's safety problem is alot.. Their car are not very safe. Exora is 4 star in Euro test. Alza also never sent for any Euro test yet. ALL of your still think is safe?????

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  • azrai on Jan 01, 2010 at 12:26 am

    One more thing. Alza use the same detune engine from Avanza. So Avanza launch in 2000 something right. Almost 10 years old Daihatsu engine. No need to shout.

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  • azrai on Jan 01, 2010 at 12:30 am

    October 2004 launch date for Avanza in Malaysia, when Indonesia already have it 2-3 years earlier.

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  • Anonymouse on Jan 02, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    Totally not worth the money and totally will NEVER buy it.

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  • its a girls car!!!!!!! for men out there better where bra when driving this car,it is so ugly that it looks like a stretching cat with no tail,so ugly

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  • Ah Chye on Jan 03, 2010 at 7:32 am

    PERODUA is taste of poor toyota people. PERODUA started in 1985 and it's more than 20 years. And still it's a stupid industrial company.

    Born For Never Change. Poor Toyota People 1st. Engineered From Japan.

    I wonder why malaysian like frog under the glass??? they can see world and aware about world and still toyota the only love. Hahaha… no wonder PERODUA suckss!!! due to market demand from people who did not know about joy of driving. Buying a car it's not about the looks only. It's about the whole package. if not, you will regrets like my girl. she hate her MyVi and hate to do so.

    "Well done p2 for helping toyota to be no 1 in global market" stated by

    MR TOYODA-GM toyota corp

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  • gaman on Jan 03, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    errr. orang malaysia kebanyakan nak yang cantik dan murah macam alza…. murah ker alza… tapi dari segi keselamatan kurang pulak ambik tau yer…. alza crash test berapa bintang… try-try lah tengok kereta perodua kena hina dengan top gear tu… ciannn.. keta makin banyak kat jalan raya ni… soo… carilah yang selamat… perodua ni berasaskan keuntungan jer.. tapi keselamatan kurang sangat… tin coke cola… tak sokong mana-mana punn..

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  • naruto on Jan 03, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    well ah chye, i never heard frog under glass before. why not you open your own company car and we see what will happen. maybe you can suggest to your girl to buy your production car. anyway both p2 and toyota are suck.

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  • Ah Chye on Jan 03, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    naruto said,

    January 3, 2010 @ 9:45 am

    well ah chye, i never heard frog under glass before. why not you open your own company car and we see what will happen. maybe you can suggest to your girl to buy your production car. anyway both p2 and toyota are suck.

    lol,it's not bout me or my gf!!!!

    it's bout our nation. YOU MORON…

    this is example of frog that i'm talking about. hahaha…

    do you know that Geely from China just took over Volvo from Ford.?

    maybe you know bout Volvo and Ford… but

    do you know how Geely's looks like?

    Friend, take out ur emotion, use your brain..

    by the way..

    for things to change.

    1st, we all have to change…

    i'm not teaching but i just wanna sharing.

    “Well done p2 for helping toyota to be no 1 in global market” stated by

    MR TOYODA-GM toyota corp

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  • bmpower on Jan 04, 2010 at 3:19 am

    WOW!! so many P2 salesman here!.

    they doing hard to keep their Alza to look good!

    Even it was the baddest car that she think she is mpv prthhhhhh…

    "A bad product need good and sweets words" – to make it sell.

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  • moka33 on Jan 04, 2010 at 5:40 am

    Just booked Alza today after test drive as a second car.Handling and power as good as Myvi.Good for 2-5 ppl.Good engine quality in terms of fittings and performance.Interior also good in design compared to Myvi.Suspension was superb and comfort.Not a bad car but not really as MPV.Anyway I am using Hyundai Trajet as MPV now.Real spacious

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  • naruto on Jan 04, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    i bealive bmpower is proton salesman. it's like a joke when one person only drive exora coz it big. but alza totally car so ok la one person only. anyway ah chye sori to comment about your girl and your self. attuactually you got your point there.

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  • naruto on Jan 04, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    i bet bmpower is proton salesman. well ah chye sori about my comment to you. actually you got your point there. maybe we can commercial our kereta lembu as MPV no need fuel lol. also can carry alot of people and massive load hahaha

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  • Fraz006 on Jan 05, 2010 at 5:40 am

    even tho i drive a P1 (not exora), i always agree that P2 people are way smarter. exora is not practical. must rev high in city. plus too heavy to drive to work. i like the idea of car one moment, mpv the next. its 2 in 1. how smart! the most important thing is drivability. campro drivability is bad. very poor low rev torque+big ass aircond compressor. aiyaaaa, proton proton, never learn, never learn. its not fun to drive a P1, i admit. they only focus on cabin comfort and suspension/handling. what la. they almost forgot malaysian always caught in traffic jams, with poor low rev torque, how severe the headache will be.

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  • Jeiyaraj on Jan 05, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Hey Paul,

    Thanks for a great review ,as always.

    I agree with BW, @ntiPeroDua & others that a head-to-head comparison with Exora is warranted. Of course some will claim that both cars are not in the same category. But for most middle-class Malaysians looking out for a bigger vehicle, Exora & Alza are the vehicles that they will be looking at (like me). I've seen the Exora & the Alza, & I must say that the Exora looks & feels spacious, although the Alza is not too far behind. I don't know about performance as I haven't test-driven either.

    Again, an Alza vs. Exora Showdown, please ! "Top Gear" style !

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  • zzz9359 on Jan 05, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    Dear Fraz…I think you tak payahlah beli P1 or P2…semuanya tak selesa….beli la BMW or Merc baru you akan rasa selesa

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  • Ah Chye on Jan 06, 2010 at 6:57 am

    naruto said,

    January 4, 2010 @ 9:51 am

    i bet bmpower is proton salesman. well ah chye sori about my comment to you. actually you got your point there. maybe we can commercial our kereta lembu as MPV no need fuel lol. also can carry alot of people and massive load hahaha

    ———————————————

    buddy, it's like Michael J fox in Back to The Future .

    We hv Vision 2020,

    We hv 1Malaysia,

    We hv Exora

    We hv Alza.

    and you just hv kereta lembu from melaka. hahahha… funny!!!

    sounds really not healthy since everone over here going forward but someone going backward.

    Hv you smell atomic bomb before?

    yuksss!!!

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  • Fraz006 said,

    January 4, 2010 @ 9:40 pm

    even tho i drive a P1 (not exora), i always agree that P2 people are way smarter. exora is not practical. must rev high in city. plus too heavy to drive to work. i like the idea of car one moment, mpv the next. its 2 in 1. how smart! the most important thing is drivability. campro drivability is bad. very poor low rev torque+big ass aircond compressor. aiyaaaa, proton proton, never learn, never learn. its not fun to drive a P1, i admit. they only focus on cabin comfort and suspension/handling. what la. they almost forgot malaysian always caught in traffic jams, with poor low rev torque, how severe the headache will be.

    ha..ha..by the way exora engine using cps engine, not campro. it doesnt have the torque dip that campro has n also its low torque is totally different compare to plain campro.dun u know the cps engine produce 85-95% of its torque around 2k-3k rpm and it maintain its maximum torque until 6500 rpm? the only problem is only the throttle lag around 1k-2k rpm due to using drive by wire tech. i bet u never drive drive by wire car b4, if may only p1, u shud try it with mazda 3 or 6 or any conti car, maybe peugot 308 vti, then u know what i mean.

    in term of power to weight ratio, alza produce 88.69hp pertonne n exora produce 87.90hp pertonne, so only 0.79hp difference in power output between exora n alza, so is it a big figure in performance?

    even alza has torque 118nm pertonne n exora has 105nm pertonne, but exora using lower final drive to compensate the less number of torque. so it is equal actually. if u drive gen2 campro n drive gen2 cps, u will notice a big difference between gen2 cps n gen2 campro performance. by the way, the final drive for gen2/waja cps auto are 4.406 whilw gen2/waja cps manual are 4.312, mean while exora manual/auto are 4.625.

    so, if u search the internet for info on final drive, the lower its final drive(lower=big figure), it will have better pickup but u will loose ur top end. it is the same theory as if u own a motorcyle, if u change the spocket to a bigger one, u will have better pick up but lower top end eventhough the number of torque remain the same. there is alot of thing can been done to increase pickup without increasing number of torque n hp for example, gear ratio, aerodynamic n roling resistance.

    i dunno about alza hp n torque graph but base on the previous vvt chart previously, cps has advantages in term of power delivery where its powerband is wider.

    so, i think alza n exora will perform similarly on the road even on hill(have test driven both)

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  • exorafans on Jan 07, 2010 at 1:06 am

    why my exora aircond thermo stat broken every week arrr

    have to turun dashboard just to tuko benda kecik

    afraid of raining

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  • anak dato' kk on Jan 07, 2010 at 4:24 am

    exorafans said,

    January 6, 2010 @ 5:06 pm

    why my exora aircond thermo stat broken every week arrr

    have to turun dashboard just to tuko benda kecik

    afraid of raining

    ————————————————

    not thermo stat la, thermo amp and now they no need to turun the dashboard anymore la. Do you really owned the exora? hmmm…….

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  • Fraz006 on Jan 07, 2010 at 7:42 am

    well, i test drove my fren's satria neo cps 1.6. that one also no umphh in the low torque. test drove myvi: slightly better but still no umphh. well, never test drove any other DBW car. all the same i guess. sucks! cars nowadays always suck due to emission restriction, fuel saving bla bla bla…. just wait for electric motor la, flat torque all the way. must be fun to drive.

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  • Peter on Jan 07, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    azrai said,

    December 14, 2009 @ 9:08 am

    From the review above, as last my bet win that the 1.5L DVVT engine is more better in term of Power : Weight ratio. Even Perodua manage to improved rides & handle as well, bravo.. This morning already seen 4-5 Alza on highway already, while only see 2 Exora… Well, i think a few months later the roads T. Avanza, G.livina or maybe P. Exora wannabe buyers will be replace by this Alza…

    Bro, Obviously u didnt test drive Exora….Please test drive before u say or comment anything. Alza is better in terms of power than EXORA??? Alza is good in ride7 handling than Exora???? LOL….Please la, test drive Exora before you comment both cars. If you want to comment on the specs , compare it with Avanza , both cars uses the same engine….But the weight, handling and also space is different….Compare this car instead. Exora is a true malaysian MPV. Alza is just a re-badged toyota passo sette with Avanza old detuned engine….PLease dont compare this with Exora. Furthermore, Exora got a 4 star NCAP star, Alza havent sent for test under Perodua itself……

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  • perodua supporters on Jan 07, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    Some people told me, proton is for malays buyers, perodua is for chinese and indian buyers.

    Next time, everyone should just know where to buy liao…….I once saw a group of perodua myvi ppl, bashing up a chinese proton persona in johor…I think maybe because they dont like a chinese proton driver………

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  • farghmee on Jan 08, 2010 at 2:03 am

    @perodua supporters,

    tu macam racismus je..

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  • azrai on Jan 08, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    Dear Peter,

    What I said are those below.

    Power is not the main things in choosing MPV. Adequate power is enough. What is more important, when going for a trip for holiday or balik kampung, there is enough place for everyone (7 people) + luggage. Those 5+2 only suitable for town + short distance travel. Also 5 people + 2 cats = 5+2. The bigger the MPV is better actually, in Malaysians’ mind. This Alza will be a seller just because its T DNA in it, and it surely cannibalized other P2 line-up. Myvi is expected to be less book by 18%, and Toyota Avanza also CKDed at P2 Rawang plant also will be cannibalized by this Alza.

    {From the review above, as last my bet win that the 1.5L DVVT engine is more better in term of Power : Weight ratio. Even Perodua manage to improved rides & handle as well, bravo.. This morning already seen 4-5 Alza on highway already, while only see 2 Exora… Well, i think a few months later the roads T. Avanza, G.livina or maybe P. Exora wannabe buyers will be replace by this Alza…}- This one i take from Danny review above laa. I also use Exora. No problem. Ok maa.

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  • azrai on Jan 08, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    Peter,

    Read carefully la……

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  • azrai on Jan 08, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    Peter, actually that words from Littlefire la. You get the wrong number.

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  • satria neo cps has different tune than exora n waja n gen2 where cps will activated at 4400 rpm n vim will function at 4800 rpm.it was tuned like that for giving it more top speed because for sport oriented car, we normally rev it beyond 4000 rpm,like the vtec, for normal use vtec, it activated around 3k-4k, but for type r or big vtec, it activated at 6k rpm n onwards. so, if u really want u rasa how wonderful neo cps, rev it at least to 5000rpm, n then u will feel the different because the powerband start on 4000rpm compare to gen2 or exora, its powerband is at 3000rpm. try it urself when u r driving ur friends neo cps(if it is really neo cps, nit neo cps wanna be), u will fell the surge of power when the needle past 4000 rpm, its like the car have a light pressure turbo. happy motoring

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  • George Sor Loh on Jan 09, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Judging from the looks between the Exora and the Alza, I would say the Exora looks better from the front while the Alza looks better from the back. So,the next project – Exza.

    The Exora is more bigger than the Alza but to be fair, that explains why the price is higher than Alza. The Exora would best fit up to seven adult people while the Alza fits more likely about five.

    If you have a big family, I suggest get the Exora because you won't have much complaint about the space you have while if you had two little children plus your parents, just get the Alza.

    While suggesting that it's all about your budget, I think both have their own values. In my humble opinion, never spend more than RM70,000 for a local made vehicle because it's not worth the money. However since we're talking about MPV rather than a car, of course Exora is the real deal. Why choose a mini MPV rather than a larger MPV?

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  • Peter on Jan 10, 2010 at 1:35 am

    Bro, sorry la…see wrongly. Anyway, i drive my friend's myvi and alza. I feel that alza is more stable now. But still, not really safe …..The car seem to be shaky after going like 125km/h onwards….Handling also not really that good compare to exora. I feel exora is a much better car in terms of specs and size. Alza is just an attractive car to attract people with old engine, not really worth it. I suggest to people who wants to buy alza, take a look at avanza first. Dont waste your money . Maybe even exora.

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  • Fraz006 on Jan 10, 2010 at 8:18 am

    "satria neo cps has different tune than exora n waja n gen2 where cps will activated at 4400 rpm n vim will function at 4800 rpm.it was tuned like that for giving it more top speed because for sport oriented car, we normally rev it beyond 4000 rpm,like the vtec, for normal use vtec, it activated around 3k-4k, but for type r or big vtec, it activated at 6k rpm n onwards. so, if u really want u rasa how wonderful neo cps, rev it at least to 5000rpm, n then u will feel the different because the powerband start on 4000rpm compare to gen2 or exora, its powerband is at 3000rpm. try it urself when u r driving ur friends neo cps(if it is really neo cps, nit neo cps wanna be), u will fell the surge of power when the needle past 4000 rpm, its like the car have a light pressure turbo. happy motoring"

    bro, aku fan P1 lah. ko salah tembak nih. aku maklum sgt lah campro mmg menjilat jari kalo hi revving. mcm menakutkan pun ada. aku drive campro gak la. tapi campro bese jer. tuh pun dah mencanak. sesekali aku mmg tarik pun, berdesup. lagi la plak campro cps. tapi still lah. bagi org2 yg tak baper tau kesedapan hi rev campro, drg kutuk2 campro nih. nak buat camne, bkn kat sekolah ada ajar pun psl engine characteristic. myvi mmg la low rpm torque sedap, tapi lepas 3 rpm , lemau abis.

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  • rocket on Jan 10, 2010 at 8:28 am

    I just purchased Alza two weeks ago and i would like to share my experience driving it.First and foremost , Alza is a great value for your money vehicle. Drives comfortably and great suspension.Very stylish design. Driver seat is not cramp at all.I am 6'1" feet in height and i just feel comfortable driving it.The seats are very nice and soft. Enough space for my tennis gears. I personally like the size. Its not too small and not so big.Just right. The petrol consumption is very minimal. Parking it is a breeze. No problem.The stereo sound system is fantastic! This is truly a great Malaysian vehicle!Worth every penny i paid. I would say to all Malaysians that this car is a National Pride of Malaysia.You can be proud driving it! I am an expatriate living in Malaysia.

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  • anak dato' kk on Jan 10, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    "The stereo sound system is fantastic!"… are you serious????

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  • Fraz006 said,

    bro, aku fan P1 lah. ko salah tembak nih. aku maklum sgt lah campro mmg menjilat jari kalo hi revving. mcm menakutkan pun ada. aku drive campro gak la. tapi campro bese jer. tuh pun dah mencanak. sesekali aku mmg tarik pun, berdesup. lagi la plak campro cps. tapi still lah. bagi org2 yg tak baper tau kesedapan hi rev campro, drg kutuk2 campro nih. nak buat camne, bkn kat sekolah ada ajar pun psl engine characteristic. myvi mmg la low rpm torque sedap, tapi lepas 3 rpm , lemau abis

    off topic

    sori bro fraz006, aku x tembak bro lah, just sharing info tentang perbezaan antara campro cps n campro n juga campro cps pada exora, (waja,gen2), satria neo adalah berbeza.

    waja cps n gen2 cps adalah ditune untuk comfort dimana power band berada lebih rendah iaitu pada 2.5k rpm, manakala exora pada 3k rpm, neo pada 4k rpm.

    so sume tuh di setting mengikut kesesuaian n fc. tetapi campro basic memang satu kasilapan pd zaman TM. Memang enjin campro nih xda masalah n bagus, cume characteristic dia dalam keadaan basic(sblm ada cps,vim n iafm) memang untuk high rev, hanya sesuai untuk jalan jauh n yg berjiwa racer, tetapi untuk dalam bandar,agak x sesuai. aku difaham kan dari sumber yg tertentu, ini terjadi sebab cat converter untuk euro4 n juga setting ems700 yg telah lock kan supaya menepati piawaian europe didalam bandar, maka terjadilah torque dip tersebut iaitu antara 3k-4k rpm. so, untuk counter masalah tersebut n dlm masa yg sama menepati euro4, maka terhasillah iafm n juga teknologi asal yg diplankan untuk masuk enjin campro iaitu cps n vim.

    dengar cite, EasyU 32bit baru untuk campro iafm atau code name dia campro LE(low emmision agaknya), memang menarik. sebab ecu ni jgk akan digunakan untuk campro FE na & FE turbo + gearbox terbaru proton 6mt,5at n cvt. rasanya pada akhir tahun nih akan diperkenalkan gearbox nih, tapi xtaulah, aku dengar2 aje.

    by the way, myvi pkai throttle cable lagi, xpakai drive by wire.anyway, goodluck alza.

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  • azrai on Jan 11, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    "The stereo sound system is fantastic!" I think rocket is expatriate from 3rd world maybe listen to the old tape radio. How come he says the sound system fantastic?

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  • zzz9359 on Jan 12, 2010 at 12:23 am

    Dear Rocket,

    Kalau ya pun you puas hati sangat ngan Alza…tak payah lah u tulis National Pride of Malaysia…..apa yg nak pride nyer kalau tukar brand jer….tolong jual keta toyota….kalau kita eksport Perodua ada ka yg nak beli….siapa pun tak mau…sebab Produa ni kita keta Toyota/daihatsu yg dipasang balik nama perodua…so jgnlah pride sangat

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  • naruto on Jan 12, 2010 at 12:58 am

    dah-dah gaduh pasal alza dan exora ni. boring dah aku baca. nak beli angkat satu tak nak beli sudah.

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  • Ah Chye on Jan 12, 2010 at 4:03 am

    mat said,

    January 8, 2010 @ 2:12 pm

    satria neo cps has different tune than exora n waja n gen2 where cps will activated at 4400 rpm n vim will function at 4800 rpm.it was tuned like that for giving it more top speed because for sport oriented car, we normally rev it beyond 4000 rpm,like the vtec, for normal use vtec, it activated around 3k-4k, but for type r or big vtec, it activated at 6k rpm n onwards. so, if u really want u rasa how wonderful neo cps, rev it at least to 5000rpm, n then u will feel the different because the powerband start on 4000rpm compare to gen2 or exora, its powerband is at 3000rpm. try it urself when u r driving ur friends neo cps(if it is really neo cps, nit neo cps wanna be), u will fell the surge of power when the needle past 4000 rpm, its like the car have a light pressure turbo. happy motoring

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    Good Tips my friend…

    if you tell this to my grand mama who thinks that she know how to drive….

    she could swap Alister.. hahahha!!!

    did this people know about motoring?

    sure they reallly know?????

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  • Fridz (Member) on Jan 12, 2010 at 4:07 am

    Fraz006,

    Proton cars use Drive By Wire technology laa..even Savvy and Saga use DBW..

    Myvi and Alza only use cable throttle. Nothing to proud of.

    Ah, still about Alza vs Exora?

    Lelaki Jatuh Hati Pada Wanita.(excluding golongan yang 'confuse'.hehe)

    Tetapi Adakah Semua Lelaki Jatuh Hati Pada Seorang Wanita?

    Semestinya Tidak..

    Just think about it..

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  • Ah Chye on Jan 12, 2010 at 4:17 am

    naruto said,

    January 11, 2010 @ 4:58 pm

    dah-dah gaduh pasal alza dan exora ni. boring dah aku baca. nak beli angkat satu tak nak beli sudah.

    ——————————————————————

    Naruto, kau tahu tak mcm mana Honda di US masa 1980an?

    org US kondem, kritik dan menyampah dgn Honda.

    tapi sekarang, org US bangga dgn produk Jepun, mcm katun Naruto juga…

    hahahaaaa…

    All friend, keep ur negative critic for postive feedback….

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  • Ah Chye on Jan 12, 2010 at 4:24 am

    rocket said,

    January 10, 2010 @ 12:28 am

    I just purchased Alza two weeks ago and i would like to share my experience driving it.First and foremost , Alza is a great value for your money vehicle. Drives comfortably and great suspension.Very stylish design. Driver seat is not cramp at all.I am 6?1? feet in height and i just feel comfortable driving it.The seats are very nice and soft. Enough space for my tennis gears. I personally like the size. Its not too small and not so big.Just right. The petrol consumption is very minimal. Parking it is a breeze. No problem.The stereo sound system is fantastic! This is truly a great Malaysian vehicle!Worth every penny i paid. I would say to all Malaysians that this car is a National Pride of Malaysia.You can be proud driving it! I am an expatriate living in Malaysia.

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    hello friend…

    do you know about cars?

    sure you know bout car?

    sure or not???

    you brought alza??? great suspension??? very stylish?? parking??? and you play tennis???

    hehehe….

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  • anak dato' kk on Jan 12, 2010 at 4:45 am

    Naruto, kalu dah boring u baca wat ape? Lgpun memang dlm review kat atas tu ada bandingkan exora ngan alza. Unfair kalau setakat seorg saja yg bg pandangan tentang perbandingan ni. Yg penting jujur dan memang kenyataan dan bukan putar belit. Mungkin ada ayat yg tak brp sedap nak baca tp….hmmm….

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  • baru tengok ron95 list, kete p2 can use ron92,95,97. seangkatan ngan merc & toyota. worse nanti gov tukar ron92 jadi rm1.80 boleh pakai lagi la. minyak ni cam2 boleh jadi.

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  • bab spec tak boleh lawan korea & china la. keyless, DBW, DVDhometheater, valve itu ini cam2 la. tengok spec cherry, alado, kia, etc. kalah kete local.

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  • ade yang pakai alado MPV? care to share. engine mit 2.4l pack of spec. tapi jangan la compare ngan 5+2 Alza, kesian Alza. pick the same size.

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  • Anak Bumi Kenyalang on Jan 13, 2010 at 8:04 am

    Salam Sejahtera Kepada Pembaca Kat Sini.

    Dari mula saya baca komen kat sini rata-rata ada yang pro Proton dan ada yang pro kepada Perodua. Inilah adalah komen dan pendapat saya berdasarkan kepada pengalaman saya yang pernah memandu Alza pada 10/01/2010 dan Exora pada 5/10/2009 dari Kuching-Miri/Miri-Kuching untuk menziarahi sanak saudara. Alza yang saya pandu adalah kepunyaan abg saya dan Exora pula kepunyaan abg ipar. Memandangkan kereta saya (Honda City) tak muat hendak membawa penumpang yang ramai. Penumpang semuanya seramai 7 orang ( 5 dewasa 2 budak2)

    Alza (manual transmission)

    – Design luaran ok nampak mewah.

    – Dashboard plain.

    – Aircon tak sampai ke belakang kerana tak ada blower aircon di belakang.

    – Ruang agak sempit.

    – Memandu kurang selesa untuk perjalanan jauh sampai lenguh badan di buatnya.

    – Petrol ada save.

    – Kualiti body – Memang standard TIN COCA COLA berbanding Exora.

    Exora (manual transmission)

    – Design luaran tampak kurang menarik.

    – Dashboard nampak macam kereta mewah.

    – Aircon (paling best coz kat belakang ada blower aircon)

    – Memandu selesa untuk perjalanan jauh compare Alza.

    – Petrol lebih kurang sama dengan Alza.

    – Kualiti body – Memang ada keras sikit tak seperti Alza memang sah TIN COCA COLA.

    Cadangan Alza:

    – Body material tu jangan kedekut sangat biarlah gred A kerana kita Malaysia kaya dengan bijih besi. Jangan jadikan pembuatan Alza seperti menjual petrol, yang kualiti di jual dan beli yang kurang kualiti . Yang jadahnya pelbagai masalah kepada enjin kereta seperti kotor dan jangka hayat enjin tak tahan.

    -Patut di tambah blower aircon pada penumpang di belakang.

    – Besarkan lagi ruang belakang sekali. Nampak sempit bagi orang dewasa. Jika kanak-kanak memang ok.

    Cadangan Exora-

    – Sama juga tingkatkan kualiti material body. Tambahkan ciri2 keselamatan seperti ABS/EBD pada sistem brek.

    Kesimpulan:

    Kedua-dua jenis MPV apabila membawa penumpang seramai 7 orang enjin tampak macam harimau mengaum…..paling sesuai kedua-dua sepatutnya adalah 1.8 or 2.0 not 1.5 or 1.6.

    Yang menghairankan saya why p2 don't use VVT-i enjin rather than DVVT coz sedangkan Daihatsu guna enjin VVT-i. Nampak betul Perodua guna barang luput tarikh.

    * Kepada mereka yang kata P2 pentingkan keuntungan daripada keselamatan saya setuju 100%.

    * Pada Proton pula harus mempertingkatan kualiti pembuatan kereta jangan hanya setakat hangat2 tahi ayam.

    Kereta pernah dimiliki:

    HONDA CITY

    MYVI SE

    GEN 2

    WAJA 1.6 CPS

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  • azrai on Jan 13, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    Anak Bumi Kenyalang said,

    "- Sama juga tingkatkan kualiti material body. Tambahkan ciri2 keselamatan seperti ABS/EBD pada sistem brek. "

    Exora M-Line dengan H-line memang dah ada ABS dan EBD + 2 Airbag. B-line ada 1 airbag tapi xde ABS dan EBD sama macam Alza kosong.

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  • Anak Bumi Kenyalang said,

    January 13, 2010 @ 12:04 am

    Salam Sejahtera Kepada Pembaca Kat Sini.

    Dari mula saya baca komen kat sini rata-rata ada yang pro Proton dan ada yang pro kepada Perodua. Inilah adalah komen dan pendapat saya berdasarkan kepada pengalaman saya yang pernah memandu Alza pada 10/01/2010 dan Exora pada 5/10/2009 dari Kuching-Miri/Miri-Kuching untuk menziarahi sanak saudara. Alza yang saya pandu adalah kepunyaan abg saya dan Exora pula kepunyaan abg ipar. Memandangkan kereta saya (Honda City) tak muat hendak membawa penumpang yang ramai. Penumpang semuanya seramai 7 orang ( 5 dewasa 2 budak2)

    Cadangan Exora-

    – Sama juga tingkatkan kualiti material body. Tambahkan ciri2 keselamatan seperti ABS/EBD pada sistem brek.

    salam anak bumi kenyalang, em berdasarkan statement awak, pandu exora manual pada 5/10/09, em, xsalah sayalah exora nasic x launch lagi. so xsalah saya, exora awak pandu exora m-line manual yang dilengkapi dengan dual airbags, abs, ebd dan BEBD pada sistem brek. em, another thing is vvti=dvvt, perodua nak bagi akronim lain, nak wat mcm sendiri punya, tapi mendanya sama je, cume kekadang dapat engine yg detuned je dari daihatsu/toyota. em, itu saja rasa pembetulan yang perlu dibuat.

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  • i love my grand livina…it superbb.

    ive been with my 'love' for 8 months..and no negative comment at all..the engine is very quite..comfortable..and impressive perfomance on road..

    no doubt exora is bigger but since i was a proton user..reliability is my point..

    anyway wht ever car u buy..make sure it suite for u..

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  • azrai on Jan 14, 2010 at 12:17 am

    Grand Livina is actually extended Nissan Livina origin in China. Check this. http://www.cars4women.co.za/articles/165/1/The-Ni… TQ. In Japan no grand livina though.

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  • Nakal on Jan 14, 2010 at 1:55 am

    Everybody..here is some inetersting updates – http://protonexora.com.my/

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  • my husband cakap..yang, alza sama powerfull like ur vios…plus, jimat minyak..

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  • anak dato' kk on Jan 14, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    my wife ckp, minyak alza lebih kurang je mcm exora tp bila hujan, bunyi mcm duk bwh atap zink….

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  • braddy on Jan 14, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    kalau tak nk dengar hujan jatuh..senang jer..simpan kat umah jer..he.he..biasalah tu keter 1 Malaysia semua akan terasa 'nikmatnya' bagi sesiapa yg dah pakai..

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  • Peter on Jan 14, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    PLS la ALZA as powerful as VIOS????? I think u havent tried VIOS yet. though both is toyota engine, Alza is using OLD AVANZA engine which is been detuned!!!! VIOS is using the enhanced VVT-I version!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Test drive both cars and compare first. Dont act like clever…….

    For budget MPVs: Proton Exora( powerful engine with better handling and 4 star EChAP star)

    For middle MPV: Toyota Wish( the newer wish which is much better looking and 2.0l new engine)

    For high class: Toyota Alphard or Estima( look and test drive the car personally, you will find there is alot of difference)

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  • Anak Bumi Kenyalang on Jan 15, 2010 at 6:39 am

    Cadangan Exora-

    – Sama juga tingkatkan kualiti material body. Tambahkan ciri2 keselamatan seperti ABS/EBD pada sistem brek.

    statement saya di atas saya confirm balik kat abg ipar saya.Yupz ciri2 tu memang ada.Dia beli manual m-line punya.

    Cuma komen saya adalah kualiti badan kereta. Harap perodua amat di sarankan untuk menaik tinggi selangit kualiti badan kenderaan jangan buat standard TIN COCA COLA. Dalam simple tak apa yang penting ciri keselamatan di titik beratkan.

    Proton lak perlu ada kualiti badan kenderaan perlu di pertingkatkan. Saya pernah tengok sendiri proton yang di jual di Brunei amat berbeza sekali yang ada di Malaysia. Badan ada keras tapi why buat kereta untuk keluaran tempatan tak seperti untuk keluaran di Brunei.

    Cth Harga Exora kat Brunei baru je dalam RM 40++++ dah covert duit kiter tu….

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  • Brunei sik ada cukey…bro..

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  • zzz9359 on Jan 15, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    Alza 2nd row cuma selesa untuk 2 dewasa saja….kalau 3 dewasa dah sempit semacam….3rd row tak payah komen la…

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  • Terence on Jan 15, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Anyone have problem with wind sound near driver seat for Alza? Any solution to fix it?

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  • anak dato' kk on Jan 16, 2010 at 3:02 am

    Terence, until now still no solution…..sad…

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  • Ask the Perodua service center guy to replace the door weatherstrip or opening trim FOC since the car is still under warranty period.

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  • Anak Bumi Kenyalang on Jan 17, 2010 at 8:26 am

    Alju,

    Ni bukan pasal cukai..sepatutnya kereta nasional tak perlu cukai..cukupla kereta import je cukai…..

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  • anak dato' kk on Jan 17, 2010 at 9:58 am

    from alza club's forum, p2 still don't have solution for this matter…hmmm….

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  • mohd ismail sanuri on Jan 18, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    Tahniah kerana anda semua memberi info dan komen.

    Malangnya ramai lagi rakyat Malaysia tak dapat membacanya.

    Orang memilih kereta yang dibeli adalah kerana duit yg ada dalam poket.

    Sedikit sahaja yg memilih selesa utk memandu itu pun kategori yg banyak duit.

    Semua orang nak beli kereta mahal, tapi tak ada duit.

    P1 memang macam-macam ada masalah kereta – orang beli juga.

    P2 memang asal toyota&daihatsu – orang beli juga.

    Alza adalah kereta.

    P2 tak pernah kata ALZA tu MPV. Kenapa nak bandingkan dengan MPV?

    P1 pula sibuk nak bandingkan Exora dgn Alza, serang Alza melalui iklan, kenapa? Sepatutnya tak berlaku kerana Alza bukan saingannya.

    Jawabannya ialah…..semua rakyat Malaysia dah agak. Alza dan Myvi bergandingan mengekalkan jualan tertinggi. Tanyalah setakat hari ini berapa jualan Alza.

    Saya guna Avanza, bukan saya tak patriotik, anak saya ramai dan itulah yang saya mampu.

    Avanza, Alza, Passo, Boon, YRV, Sette, Luminas, Vios, Rush, dll……mereka ni guna enjin yang sama. Yg membezakan mereka ni cuma 1.3 & 1.5, teknologi tambahan dan sistem turbo masing-masing. Jadi apa hairannya Exora guna enjin Neo CPS?

    Avanza 1.3 saya tanpa modified langsung pun boleh capai 170km/j. Kalau saya tukar enjin YRV, Avanza saya dah tentu capai kelajuan lebih 220km/j. Tapi perlu ke saya? Macam itu juga dengan Exora Turbo nanti.

    Kesimpulannya – apapun yg kita debatkan, kereta yg keluar dari kilang tetap macam tu juga, kereta yg mampu kita beli poket kita yg menjawabnya.

    Tak ada sesiapa pun pemegang saham dalam P1 @ P2 akan membaca komen kita dalam blog ini. Mereka ketawakan kita lagi ada….dapat promo percuma.

    Kalau nak bandingkan pun, guna fakta, akal dan logik. Kita dah tahu Exora dan Alza lain kategori, tapi kita sakitkan kepala berdebat buat apa. Alahai….

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  • anak dato' kk on Jan 18, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    mohd ismail sanuri said,

    January 18, 2010 @ 4:38 am

    P2 tak pernah kata ALZA tu MPV. Kenapa nak bandingkan dengan MPV?

    ————————-

    Bukan ke p2 claim Alza ni MPV??? Dalam iklan, hari2 keluar sampai boleh ingat dalam kepada apa yg dia cakap, "AZLA… MPV SEHEBAT ANDA!"

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  • zzz9359 on Jan 19, 2010 at 1:32 am

    Saudara Mohd Ismail,

    Tak salah kita berdebat & memberi pendapat dlm apa2 hal…semua itu akan menajamkan pemikiran kita..bukannya menyakitkan kepala kita….bila saudara memberikan pandangan saudara, bukankan itu debat jugak namanya kerana saudara telah mengeluarkan idea dan pandangan saudara

    semua orang nak keluarkan pendapat…baguslah tu boleh bertukar2 idea…tak kisahlah pendapat itu betul atau tidak…masing2 boleh memikirkannya

    Tiba-tiba timbul org macam sedara…betul2 potong stim

    kalau dlm kelompok masyarakat…saya anggap saudara ni seolah-olah golongan anti sosial…mintak maaf ini pendapat saya…tak perlu saudara bersetuju dgn saya

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  • anak dato' kk on Jan 19, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    Agreed with zzz9359.kalau tak bersedia utk berdebat atau tak mahu berdebat,nampak gayanya kenalah duk dlm utan berkawan dengan rimau dengan gajah. Apa gunanya org berdebat kat parlimen???Semua pendapat diorg tu betul ke???… Perlu ke nak bawak famili jalan2 dgn kelajuan 170km/j or 220km/j? sdr mohd ismail dah menjawabnya sendiri. So, mengapa perlu dipersoalkan kalau dah tau jwpnnya.

    Ada ke p1 suruh org heran dgn injin cps dia? cuma sbg pemberitahuan mcm kete2 lain gak yg berbangga dgn dvvt, cvct,vvti,i-vtec etc.

    harap sdr mohd ismail dpt menerima pandangan org lain kalau nak pendapat sedara juga diterima org lain….negara demokrasi ma…

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  • azure on Jan 19, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    aku da nek alza.. tgi ak 167 dok blkg skali, puas pak cik seller nak adjust bg ak duduk. sakit jgk la lutut ak sentuh seat tgh..

    mpv tp dok 4 org? ap pekdah?

    power kurang perstasi memuaskan, okle… nak jln jauhkan.. nk round bandar pakai je la myvi korg yg lg 1 tu

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  • Hmm…i don't know y people buy this mini MPV?good looking?save fuel?or lower price?how about Exora?medium size MPV,lower price and i think Exora at least safety than Alza~but talk about both company quality~everyone know Perodua quality much better than Proton!

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  • Pemikir on Jan 21, 2010 at 8:21 am

    Ermm…

    Berdebat tentang Alza dan Exora dan buat perbandingan kedua-duanya memang takkan habis.. :)

    Ikut la kemampuan nak guna mana. Setiap orang ada citarasa. Mana yang kurang sama-sama perbaiki.

    Saya yakin Exora ada kelemahan dan Alza pun ada kelemahan tersendiri. Dan juga masing-masing ada kelebihan tersendiri.

    Untuk membanding-bandingkan antara keduanya.. Macam tak kena ada juga..

    Nak lebih berkualiti, lebih mewah, lebih mantap = duit..

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  • redxdevil on Jan 21, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    @ntiPerOdua said,

    December 16, 2009 @ 10:45 am

    Lemau said,

    December 16, 2009 @ 10:02 am

    redxdevil said,

    December 15, 2009 @ 11:11 am

    only NOOB buy alza.

    poor them

    This must be proton pathetic salesman..he he….

    Exora tu cantik ke ?? Pada aku, takde satu pun tarikan pada Exora ni…totally sucks !! Cuba korang tengok dari belakang, macam siot je…

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    u ingat Perodua Alza sangat cantak ke? Bagi saya Alza Depan sampai Belakag; Dalam & Luar, tengok pun nak saya muntah kao kao !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TOTALLY UGLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    alza yg overrated tu nampak takla cantik sgt kat showroom.. tp bila aku terjumpa alza On The Road.. nampak lagi HODOH!! thats for sure, i dun know y ppl want to waste much money buying this junk

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  • Two thumb down for alza!

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  • Peter on Jan 23, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    My friend just collected his alza. I went to genting with him and some of our friends. The car is quite smooth. Handling also not bad. Overall, he likes his car. I am not a perodua basher even though i owned my persona. So far, he has not encounter alot of problems. His car usually used for going to work so he would make the 3rd row down to have more boot space. So i think it really depends on the person's needs. Cos his family is quite small, only his wife,2 sons only. If he has a bigger family, maybe i would recommend him exora instead.

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  • FarredBurn on Jan 24, 2010 at 11:20 am

    Proton exora and perodua alza is in diffrent segment…both are cheap and reliable for me but I'll go for Exora because it doesnt look that cheap :D ….RM57000 for a basic exora is totally insane!!!Congrats Proton!!!

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  • peaceonearth on Jan 24, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    it may not be the ideal car/small MPV for all….

    ….all boil down to the needs, budget, purpose of each individual

    to those who have used, like to check with you:

    -fuel consumption?……really 12km+ for auto

    -aircond…….really cool at the back with just one front blower (and small outlet esp the middle one)?

    -any other obvious problems?

    -really one-hour super service or money-back guaranteed if exceed 1 hour as advertised in the broucher?

    -is the aircond as noisy as MYVI which i find it quite irritating, Persona does not seem to have that noise?

    If not, then P2 looks good only in its marketing strategy which is misleading!

    Appreciate genuine comments.

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  • boring

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  • anak dato' kk on Feb 04, 2010 at 2:07 am

    boring…………………

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  • ratna on Feb 05, 2010 at 12:32 am

    hmm… i like my innova. boleh tumpangkan saudara mara kalau ada kenduri jejauh. Bior pun innova ni nampak tak cantik tapi dalam dia selesa.

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  • Fraz006 on Feb 05, 2010 at 9:38 am

    bro fridz,

    oh myvi pakai throttle cable ker?

    oh aku igt DBW, psl tu hari aku test drive myvi, die ada delay la plak kat rpm biler nak masuk gear seterusnye. macam rpm naek skit bile tekan clutch. so aku igt DBW delay lah.pe citer throttle cable pun ada delay2 nih, P2 owners please explain…

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  • y2ggy on Feb 08, 2010 at 4:26 am

    Kualiti P2 dan P1 lebih kurang. As long dia orang use local vendor dan local manpower. Totaly B******t orang cakap perodua sama kualiti dan Toyolta. Aku dah drve both P1 dan P2 car. Masing2 ada masalah sendiri. Proton saga BLM baru aku mula-mula rosak suis powerwindow, kemudian brake pump rosak. Kecewa aku. Kemuadian myvi bini aku, headligth x mau menyala dan brake bergegar due to masalah dicsbrake. Bagi aku P1 dan P2 sama-sama hampeh. Padanlah dengan harga yang murah… Tapi aku x nyesal pakai kedua2 kereta tu…. PEACE.

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  • exorafans on Feb 08, 2010 at 9:32 am

    my exora air cond rosak lagik feel like sauna in the car

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  • vinodGr8 on Feb 09, 2010 at 2:01 am

    feel like sauna? haiya… my exora h-line in fact very low in torque and disappointing.. I went back to penang last weekend. 5 people filled 1st and 2nd row. the last row were flattened due to luggages. when hill-climb after juru towards the tunnel, cannot go more than 70kmh, even I dropped the gear to 3… and know what, I week after I acquired the car, some funny noises at rear of the car. went for check up at service centre, the nut for the rear absorber loose and nearly come out! if I know, I'll never buy proton and buy alza instead… waste of money…

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    • think 2 or 3 time on Mar 30, 2010 at 11:51 pm

      P2 saleman…..don buy anything more easy ma….70kmh ok what!!

      so what do u want…. hill-climbing at 110-170kmh…

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  • Fraz006 on Feb 10, 2010 at 2:45 am

    exora berat beb, hill climb mmg 70 kmh jer lah. hahaha. tapi 70kmh full load tuh kire ok lah. nak sedap psg la turbo kit. tapi tuh lah. aku pakai p1 takde rosak pon. ikut luck gak lah. sume brand camtuh . ikut luck gak. ada jer toyota rosak. tapi besenye tak popular citer nih psl baper kerat jer toyota users banding ngan p1 ngan p2. kepada vinod, dont worry bro, its never a waste of money. afterall ur car still does it job r