Volkswagen dieselgate saga expands, more engines including new EA288 1.6 and 2.0 might be affected


New reports from the US suggest that Volkswagen may have developed several types of its infamous “defeat device,” which may even be equipped on its newest range of vehicles.

Previously, the defeat device used to achieve “targeted results” in official emissions tests was confirmed only to be fitted to the brand’s vehicles equipped with the EA189 2.0 litre EU5-compliant diesel engine.

As discussions continue to try to resolve the 11 million affected vehicles, a new Reuters report suggests that the carmaker may have developed several types of the defeat devices, even one for its latest 1.6 and 2.0 litre EA288 diesel engines. These are in use in the latest-gen of MQB platform-based vehicles, such as the Mk7 Golf, new Tiguan and next-gen Jetta.

Three unnamed sources – one a VW manager, another a US official close to the ongoing investigation – are believed to have been in touch with Reuters, and have opened up on further complexities surrounding the German automaker’s recent discrepancies.

Volkswagen Tiguan-11

As mentioned, it is reported that several more types of defeat devices were developed by Volkswagen, based on the premise that different, newer versions are required for different engines, and for different emissions control systems as well. A source close to the ongoing investigation in the US said that, “Volkswagen would have had to reconfigure the software for each generation of engines.”

Suspiciously, Volkswagen of America has since pulled the plug on its newer diesel-powered (EA288-equipped) vehicles being certified for sale by the Environmental Pollution Agency (EPA). It also doesn’t help that the company has also issued a stop-sale order of its 2015 and 2016 model year vehicles throughout the country, for models beyond those equipped with the known defeat device-equipped EA189 engine.

Naturally, it wouldn’t be too surprising should Volkswagen actually have an improved version of the defeat device fitted to its newer EA288 engine, a EU6-compliant turbodiesel available in displacements of 1.6 and 2.0 litres.

In the past, Volkswagen has put the burden of its deception on a few software engineers, but should the scale of operations suggested by the reports above be true, there could be a far more sizeable amount of Volkswagen employees knowingly involved in the development of the illegal “defeat devices,” therefore affecting the total amount of potential fines, and the severity of management changes that could be required at Volkswagen.

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  • silang kris on Oct 20, 2015 at 12:47 pm

    Mercedes has confirmed that it will assist VW go through this problem and support them. This shows great unity among German industry in times of adversity, despite both being fierce competitors. Malaysian companies could learn a thing or two from the Germans.

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    • DaughtryLover on Oct 20, 2015 at 12:56 pm

      As i mentioned earlier in another post, Germany is an amazing country with the majority of its economy consisting of SMEs and yet it is just slightly smaller than China as the world’s second biggest exporting nation. As a trading nation, its number four in the world. All this for a country with 89 million people only, while US has 250 million plus people, Japan – 125 million plus and China – 1 billion plus. That says a lot about the country’s productivity rate, although German workers work least amount of hours in Europe.

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      • DSG in Malaysia? on Oct 20, 2015 at 2:42 pm

        Germans talk rubbish. Actually DSg in Malaysia they still keeping quiet. Yes they are united amongst themselves selling lemons to the world. Until today, 2015, so many DSG VWs come into SC for repair.

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        • VVTI Sucks on Oct 20, 2015 at 11:03 pm

          Why you all so angry with Germans? If your Toyota’s dont sell, dont blame Germans, Honda, Proton or Perodua. Blame yourself. Toyota su*ks!

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        • totti on Oct 21, 2015 at 3:10 pm

          but when i passed yesterday at sc, didn’t see vw comes for dsg problem. vgm keep quiet because dsg issue had been resolved. so no point they keep noisy in social media.

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        • Disagree on Oct 22, 2015 at 2:55 pm

          i think dsg issue has been resolved la since i rarely heard any complain from owner nowadays

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      • Go figure where germans get help from….

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      • VGM Pls Close Shop on Oct 20, 2015 at 3:09 pm

        There is more to come. Moral of the story, don’t buy VW. Every lie, there are 9 hidden.

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        • totti on Oct 21, 2015 at 3:15 pm

          people keep buying vw because of the quality and comfortable. only owner of vw knew about it. haters gonna hate because they’re jealous.

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      • VGM Pls Close Shop on Oct 20, 2015 at 3:10 pm

        German butt licker here. Probably a VGM salesman trying to repair and do damage control

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    • While Proton is dying with Campro VVT and CFE, IAFM engine in Malaysia.. sales performance dropping year by year.

      Interestingly, president and CEO Datuk Aminar Rashid Salleh also revealed that the company is currently looking to supply its engines and transmissions to other carmakers. “We are hoping in the near future to offer [powertrains] to other OEMs,” he said. “In fact, we have offered our engines and our transmissions to Proton.”

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    • Like what? One fella cheat and than bring down the whole boat?

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    • CSI Dr M on Oct 20, 2015 at 3:06 pm

      Talk rubbish. Germans are big cheats right from hitler days. they stole stole stole and stole. And how did they steal? they cheated and misled everybody.

      Now their true colours are showing.

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  • Nenek Kau on Oct 20, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    They are not only cheating, in fact, they improve their defeat device. Hahaha….this is what is called determination!

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  • Limboghini on Oct 20, 2015 at 1:47 pm

    See, when you found one, there can be 10 others coming!

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  • naaabei on Oct 20, 2015 at 2:52 pm

    All I can say to the nazis is this…. You are just a bunch of cheaters

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  • at least cheating on emmission does not kill people or kids compared to another brand that cheat on safety rating by not providing childseats tether compared to during safety test. thats waayyy more horror

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  • macroemdia on Oct 20, 2015 at 4:45 pm

    All in it together. Better to help, so that they won’t find out or close one eye on their OTHER car defeat systems. Next, even petrol cars have this all along. Conclusion, environmental movement is one big fat lie to make us feel better as we splurge. Just another day in the marketing division.

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  • whatizit on Oct 20, 2015 at 6:23 pm

    VGM will still announce “Malaysia unaffected by Volkswagen recall”

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  • sudonano (Member) on Oct 20, 2015 at 6:31 pm

    Should VW indeed have such defeat devices in the new generation TDI engines, they are royally stuffed.

    Their largest markets for the diesels are primarily in the UK and Germany. In these markets, Ford and Vauxhall/Opel will pretty much own the B and C segment hatch if VW has to expand the recall to their newer EU6 engines too, as although the Golf is much loved there, the thought that your new car may have to be detuned is quite disconcerting.

    It doesn’t help that Opel/Vauxhall now have the all new Astra that seems to be the best in class, after the Golf. And Ford’s pricing on the other hand is very very attractive too.

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