No official pricing for some new vehicles yet because of delayed approval from government body – MAA

No official pricing for some new vehicles yet because of delayed approval from government body – MAA

According to a report by Berita Harian, car companies in Malaysia are unable to provide official pricing for certain models as they have yet to receive the approval from a government body.

Among the affected models include the Proton X70, which is slated to make its official launch debut on December 12. The SUV isn’t the only one either, as the Honda HR-V RS revealed in July 2018 has yet to be given an official price, although Honda Malaysia is currently accepting bookings for the B-segment crossover.

The list also includes Toyota models like the Rush and Vios, as well as from other makes, with just estimated pricing being made available for now.

The government body in question is comprised of various government ministries and departments, including the Ministry of Finance (MoF), Ministry of International Trade and Industry (MITI), Royal Malaysian Customs Department and Road Transport Department (JPJ).

Datuk Aishah Ahmad, president of the Malaysian Automotive Association (MAA), said, “the approval from the ministry is a little slow and this is a fact. Among the factors are the change in government and introduction of new rules.”

“Previously, the MoF provided the approval, but now, most processes involve the government and must go through MITI, MoF, the Customs Department and JPJ. Therefore, many cars that are set to be launched have not been approved by the government in relation to the Industrial Adjustment Fund,” she added.

However, Aishah stated that the pricing of vehicles is still very much at the discretion of car companies. “If [they] want to sell it at a high price, it’s doable, but market conditions are the most suitable to determine pricing,” she noted, adding that consumers will always witness the competition between automotive companies to determine and obtain the product that best fits their needs.

“In the meantime, industry experts and market analysts are skeptical about the delayed approval of new vehicle pricing, believing the industry could face problems in the future. Industry sources say the automotive industry should adopt an open market and allow for more competition while offering equal chances,” Aishah commented.

“There is still protectionism in the local automotive scene for the benefit of certain industry players. We should allow for more competition so consumers are given better choices when it comes to vehicle prices,” she continued.

The MAA president also claimed competition between car companies could have a role in the delay of new car price announcements. This is because companies may want to wait for their competitors to take the first step in announcing their prices before they make their move.

Other possible reasons for the delay in announcing vehicle prices, Aishah said, is the uncertainty involving the tax mechanism used and special incentives provided to car companies. The latter includes things like Energy Efficient Vehicle (EEV) status, as well as any incentives associated with fully-imported (CBU) and locally-assembled (CKD) models.

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Comments

  • Viosser on Dec 03, 2018 at 4:56 pm

    all waiting with bated breath. Camry & Vios prices

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    • Gerard Lye (Member) on Dec 03, 2018 at 5:01 pm

      Official pricing for the Toyota Camry is already out: https://paultan.org/2018/11/22/klims18-new-toyota-camry-launched-2-5v-rm190k/

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      • Anana on Dec 03, 2018 at 5:10 pm

        Great info! No comments on the new Toyota prices? You should do a piece on that.

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        • John Minum Teh 8X on Dec 03, 2018 at 7:07 pm

          Aishah used to fight for the rakyat for lower car prices once upon a time.

          Then previous corrupted Government gave her Datukship

          Now she fights for higher car prices and more taxes to benefit the Government

          Amazing how someone can be bought

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        • Loophole tax on Dec 03, 2018 at 7:44 pm

          Geely made in China ..But claims to be national car… then all CKD cars can be national ..eg.Umw has local shareholders too… the chinese saw our policy loophole and abused it

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          • John Doe on Dec 04, 2018 at 10:39 am

            You need to read up more on equity. Understand significant shareholders of Proton as compared to other CKD makes.

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          • Hussein on Dec 04, 2018 at 11:13 am

            Geely already kelentong Malaysia. Previous Gomen not so clever to see contracts and see terms

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        • Sohai on Dec 04, 2018 at 12:29 am

          Bare in mind transportation is BASIC NEED and should be lowest price for all but unfortunately been tax ~100% brainless. Just look at new Camry kosong planned selling 190k est from 140k previously, under new gomen car price look increased, this signal us the new introduction excise duty cbu ckd tax sst is even more worst.
          Frankly the gomen should only impose 2 types of car tax, (1)Sales Tax (income tax) & (2)CKD/CBU (promote local assembly) standard across fare & square, and the Excice Duty should removed. Other greentech investment should park under special investment incentives. Its totally incorrect the gomen to tell you, you and you car maker should sell at what price…

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          • What does MAA Really Do??? on Dec 04, 2018 at 9:11 am

            Time to close MAA. All they do is tabulate data.

            Why waste money to upkeep this department? MAI and MAA need to close down

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          • Pilihanraya Kalah Teruk on Dec 04, 2018 at 9:16 am

            MAA is just another Government body set up to do work once a month. While we all work for 20 days in a month, MAA workers just work 1 day in a month, 29 days just lepak and relax

            That one day, just to make tables and charts on monthly car sales

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          • Pilihanraya Kalah Teruk on Dec 04, 2018 at 9:19 am

            MAA never made noise about Geely getting tax benefit through the back door.

            Honda, Toyota and Nissan has invested tens of billions of ringgit the past 50 years in Malaysia to gain CKD status.

            Geely overnight got tax benefit of local car status for just RM170 million

            MAA very quiet about this

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          • They want you to buy lower quality Proton to support local cronies la.
            While they drive Mercedes, Porsche. Even TDM family has Porsche, and PAS has S-class.

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          • John Doe on Dec 04, 2018 at 10:48 am

            Reply Pilihan Raya Kalah Teruk
            Please elaborate back-door tax?
            Are you sure others have individually invested 10s of billions, or are you just giving a ball park figure you think its safe taking a quantum they have expended in Malaysia for other purpose ie marketing and sales?
            It is only fair if you consider only investments for the purpose of full localization ie engine manufacturing facility (Safety AA components) which ALL foreign companies have avoided from investing in Malaysia for such facility because they want to protect their own manufacturers in Japan and Thailand.

            In short, a similar investment in any other country from Malaysia will not gain you substantial tax benefit due to local protectionism, so stop hitting Malaysia under the belt.

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          • Hussein on Dec 04, 2018 at 11:14 am

            Previous Government sold our national car company to foreigner. We got no more control over P1

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        • Proton oh Proton on Dec 04, 2018 at 7:48 am

          Old engine for over price

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          • Pilihanraya Kalah Teruk on Dec 04, 2018 at 9:21 am

            Why are car prices expensive? It is because Government has to upkeep unnecessary departments like MAA. So, they pass the buck by selling cars with high prices.

            Once you close Government departments like MAI and MAA…..you will see car prices being dropped

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          • taknaktoyota on Dec 04, 2018 at 10:55 am

            Yeah Toyota and P2 did that since day 1

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          • hahaha on Dec 04, 2018 at 1:10 pm

            MAA is government body, hahahahahaha

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        • Dhanesh on Dec 04, 2018 at 8:52 am

          Nearly All car companies are owned by the Government.

          This is why they keep car prices high. To untung kerajaan. They don’t care about the people at all

          All this started with old Government before.

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        • Pilihanraya Kalah Teruk on Dec 04, 2018 at 9:15 am

          Sick and tired of MAA. They just do nothing and get gaji buta. New Government must look into unnecessary spending

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      • John Minum Teh 8X on Dec 03, 2018 at 7:00 pm

        Malaysia is the only country in the world that determines car prices. All other countries leave it to demand and supply.

        These are bad habits brought from the past to protect Proton. Until today, we are still protecting Proton.

        Time we stop protecting Proton. Ask Honda and Toyota, their City and Vios, they want to sell it at RM50k to RM60k. But MITI does not allow it.

        Why must MITI prevent Toyota from selling their cars cheaper? It only benefits the rakyat.

        MAlaysia is the ONLY country in the world where the Government asks car companies to INCREASE their car price.

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        • John Minum Teh 8X on Dec 04, 2018 at 9:56 am

          MAI and MAA told the rakyat to move towards EEV 7 years ago.

          So Honda and Toyota invested billions to set up platns to CKD Prius, Insight, Civic, Jazz etc in Malaysia.

          MAI and MAA told these companies if you CKD EEV cars and Hybrid cars, your cars will be tax exempt.

          Now, it seems all sudah jadi kencing.

          Rakyat also bought thousands of EEV cars to support Government move towards EEV and Hybrid

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          • Your jepunis overlord hybrid cars no RV, tipu punya

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    • Habisla Toyota Teh X8 on Dec 03, 2018 at 7:37 pm

      Nobody waiting with bated breath. Camry and especially Vios is Super Fugly. Just see the car no need to know the price.

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  • Greedy UMW on Dec 03, 2018 at 5:00 pm

    Xde guna ambil ramai kakitangan kerajaan macam tu. Baik berhenti je. Kerja pun lambat.

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    • pokjiz on Dec 03, 2018 at 5:12 pm

      Stail oghang lama …kaji kaji kaji

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      • hondaman on Dec 03, 2018 at 9:26 pm

        Baca betul-betul, dulu hanya perlukan MOF untuk bagi approval, sekarang di bawah kerajaan baharu,kena minta sampai empat kementerian/agensi. Style orang lama lagi efisyen

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      • Benda mcm ni, kaji3.
        Yg lain seperti kasut hitam, swimming pool hotel, semua tutup 1am, tak payah kaji – tembak je

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    • John Minum Teh 8X on Dec 03, 2018 at 7:04 pm

      UMW is like kakitangan kerajaan. Do little work but expect big pay 5 figures. This is why UMW charges a lot. They have to feed their lazy GLC staff who are demanding more and more money

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    • YB Albert on Dec 03, 2018 at 8:01 pm

      Tun said our civil service is over bloated…
      The 1.6 juta gomen servants can literally overwhelm the
      PLA of communist China with only 1.3 juta.
      In other words,they can fight a nuclear war with USA(theoretically),but the fact is most of them r political appointees or just making up the numbers.
      Just pathetic,even simple pricing takes so long,or they r still thinking of over protecting proton.

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      • Pilihanraya Kalah Teruk on Dec 04, 2018 at 9:30 am

        1.6 million Government servants still cannot work fast to get the pricing done quick.

        We need to investigate why the 1.6 million Government servants are taking so long

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        • You mean those armies doctors nurses teachers also work for the pricing?

          This is joke of century! Haha!

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          • basherlogic on Dec 04, 2018 at 12:15 pm

            armies doctors nurses teachers not counted Government servants weii

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          • kzm (Member) on Dec 04, 2018 at 7:20 pm

            In bolehland they are counted as govt servant. >1M are them

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          • basherlogic on Dec 04, 2018 at 9:50 pm

            Go get your own nick, when you say million, you counted them in!

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    • Menteri skrg sibuk buat kerja SPRM, Polis dan Pemberita yg suka cari dan dedah skandal kerajaan dulu. Kerajaan skrg masih bmyk berfikiran ala pembangkang. Sampai lupa kerja hakiki yg mereka dh jd kerajaan dan jalankan urusan lain.

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      • LatukBandar on Dec 04, 2018 at 12:20 pm

        Saya sokong kuat bruh, kami bagi diorang kerja 5 penggal barulah biasa Menteri2 ni

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    • What does MAA Really Do??? on Dec 04, 2018 at 9:10 am

      MAA has over 100 over staff. Per annum you need about hundred million ringgit just to maintain the staff

      And what do they do? They just collect all data from each car company and tabulate the data. Collecting also so easy. Every month car companies have directive to give MAA their numbers sold

      A job that even a Form Five student can do. Why don’t be just do that? Employ an external person to tabulate this data

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  • Dylan Ch'ng on Dec 03, 2018 at 5:01 pm

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    This is actually a good strategy to slow down sales

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  • PlainBS on Dec 03, 2018 at 5:18 pm

    See? Told ya got pricing issues.

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  • Wow… As usual MAA has outdone itself in coming up with ‘creative’ excuses justifying the sheers incompetent of its members… And really you need 4 ministries to approve car prices…. That is definitely a good use of tax dollars….

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    • Dhanesh on Dec 04, 2018 at 8:54 am

      Political parties may change but it is still the same lazy dungus running the Government. Irrespective who runs the Government, you still got the SAME Government workers

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  • John Makan Labu on Dec 03, 2018 at 5:21 pm

    I think we are going to say goodbye to price setting of cars for decades when no outside cars can compete directly with proton. All new vios maybe 60-65k.. Even closer to persona.

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  • newme on Dec 03, 2018 at 5:26 pm

    Still working on mechanism to artificially jack up car prices.

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  • In another words, prices of cars is going up and up. Can alredi see this with new Camry incoming.

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    • John Minum Teh 8X Fake News on Dec 03, 2018 at 6:23 pm

      Bro, only for Camry is already CBU known as imported from hailand

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    • John Minum Teh 8X Fake News on Dec 03, 2018 at 6:23 pm

      Bro, only for Camry is already CBU known as imported from thailand

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      • Nope. Even local CKD City Hybrid sales is put on hold pending price revision. Is this CBU? Nope.

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    • Dhanesh on Dec 04, 2018 at 8:56 am

      UMW is Government. UMW also full of kakitangan kerajaan. They demand fat pay. So UMW have to charge high high for Toyota to feed these kakitangan kerajaan

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      • If UMW is Government, then who is running the Government? What is PH doing, minum teh 8x a day and sending their minions come here talk bollocks? I alredi say, dun reply me with ur dupe stupidity. When u can korek a sliver of common sense somewhere, then only come reply me.

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      • Hussein on Dec 04, 2018 at 11:12 am

        john, tak payah bising here. This is a car blog. Talk about cars and not your paranoia

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  • Auto analyst on Dec 03, 2018 at 5:36 pm

    Problem with Proton X70 is they cannot bring in more than 10000 units under CBU agreement or AP. Otherwise, it will flood the market and doesn’t benefit other OEMs with local assembly investments. CKD will only start by middle of next year. That’s why ministries including MITI, MOF, Customs involved. JPJ involved in homologation for China imported X70. New govt is really doing it’s job unlike previous one, who just approves based on “EEV status”?

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  • Henry on Dec 03, 2018 at 6:44 pm

    Bloody nonsense. Does Char Kuay Teow price need approval by the Authorities?

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  • Medina Rayyan on Dec 03, 2018 at 6:52 pm

    I think we need a new President of MAA. Its about time don’t you think?

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  • Ethan on Dec 03, 2018 at 6:57 pm

    Malaysian National Cars:
    Proton badge, redesigned by Proton, sold in Proton showrooms and service by Proton workshops.

    1) Proton Perdana RM104,000
    2008 Honda Accord (8th GEN) RM149,800

    2) Proton Inspira RM91,999
    2011 Mitsubishi Lancer EX RM118,000

    3) Proton Ertiga RM56,773
    2012 Mitsubishi Ertiga RM80,000

    4) Proton X70 RM??? (Wish to sell high price in Malaysia)
    Geely Boyue @ China RM68,500 (110,000 Yuan)

    “The Geely Boyue is currently priced around RM68,500 (110,000 yuan) in China, while competitors such as the Honda CR-V and Mazda CX-5 are sold at over RM100,000. But its (the rebadged Boyue’s) features, affordable price and attractive design will be a game changer to the SUV market,” the source claimed.Jan 5, 2018

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  • C.P. MOHAN on Dec 03, 2018 at 10:12 pm

    Maybe the delay is due to the “impact” of prices on other marques and SST.

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  • Dong gor on Dec 03, 2018 at 10:28 pm

    It’s a free market, why does the price need approval? No wonder nothing moves here in this country. Ringgit is going down the drain, investors are pulling out of the country, ppl are getting retrenched.. The list goes on… But none is positive.

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    • She actually admitted it:

      “There is still protectionism in the local automotive scene for the benefit of certain industry players. We should allow for more competition so consumers are given better choices when it comes to vehicle prices,” she continued.

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  • Leafable on Dec 04, 2018 at 7:26 am

    LOL still not free market price. 3rd world country policy. Let the market decide on price not the government.

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  • common sensor on Dec 04, 2018 at 7:43 am

    Vehicles’ pricing require government approval because there are element of incentive in the structure. Making it worst that the incentives vary from one company to another .. apparently the new government has got to figure out first on whats the rationale. Don’t blame the government ..

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  • vioser on Dec 04, 2018 at 8:47 am

    Until now dont know the price of X70 yet, how to buy?? Wasting people time..

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  • Makcik MITI on Dec 04, 2018 at 8:59 am

    Kita Perlu Kaji Lagi …….
    Harga tak boleh murah sangat.

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  • I think this has to do with protecting market for the 3rd Malaysian car. Old man screwing up free market gain.

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  • Vincent on Dec 04, 2018 at 10:05 am

    Most likely, some one wanted the price been check to prevent “under price” and tax avoidance.

    Some has start to lay the platform to ensure new 3rd national car is always lower price than others! We wait and see!

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  • BN4EVA on Dec 04, 2018 at 11:17 am

    Tak suka duduk Malaysia, boleh keluar.. kahkahkah

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  • abdullah on Dec 04, 2018 at 3:44 pm

    Car prices should be left to market forces.

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  • org hebat on Jan 11, 2019 at 6:35 pm

    proton laju pula harga approve…. apasal kereta lain lambat.

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