For years, carmakers have seemed to be stuck in the same cycle of producing slightly better iterations of cars that came before. Lighter, bigger, faster and more efficient, but the recipe stays the same – an internal combustion engine burns fuel to propel a crankshaft, spinning a transmission that sends power to the road. Niche hybrids aside, the car as a piece of technology has stayed stagnant for over a century.
We’ve long looked at electric vehicles as the true car of the future, one that you plug into your home just like a smartphone and produces zero emissions. Just like your smartphone, however, an EV’s battery life is unpredictable, and when you do deplete it, it takes ages to charge it back up again. Fine if you’re just browsing Facebook, not so fine if you’re on your way to Penang and the low battery warning just came on.
Indeed, most industry observers now see plug-in hybrids as a perfect solution, at least in the short term. With a more powerful electric motor and a bigger battery compared to a conventional hybrid, it provides all of the benefits of an electric car, but the presence of a regular engine means that it does away with the usual EV issues of range anxiety, long charge time and steep pricing.
Premium carmakers have been the biggest investors in these vehicles, and Malaysians have been a strange beneficiary thanks to Energy Efficient Vehicle (EEV) rebates, with cars like the Volvo XC90 T8 Twin Engine and BMW X5 xDrive40e. But the new BMW 330e will be the real litmus test for this technology, with its price putting it firmly within the grasp of the entry-level premium car buyer. So, could this car really be a good fit for the typical 3 Series buyer? We take it for a spin on local roads and conditions to find out.
Malaysians have been able to buy the F30 BMW 330e iPerformance since late August, just five months after it was unveiled to the world, making it a surprisingly short lead time. What’s more, like other plug-in hybrids (and the new Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid) sold in Malaysia, the car is locally-assembled (CKD) to take advantage of the aforementioned incentives.
As such, it comes into the market priced at just RM248,800 on-the-road without insurance, slotting in just above the less powerful, less well-equipped 320i Sport. This puts it pretty much smack in the middle of the local 3 Series range in terms of price, although with the recent discontinuation of the RM297,800 330i M Sport, it now sits at the top of that range.
The 330e is also significantly less expensive than its closest rival, the Mercedes-Benz C 350 e – Stuttgart’s own take on the plug-in hybrid sports sedan recipe is priced between RM288,888 and RM298,888. However, the BMW doesn’t come with quite the level of kit offered on the Mercedes, which we’ll come to later.
Locally, the car is specced in Sport trim, losing out on the 330i’s M Sport package. Whether that’s a good thing or not depends on which look you prefer best, although most image-conscious Malaysians would probably view it as the latter. I, however, do like the more subtle look that this car has – with the sharp front end and well-balanced proportions, there’s a reserved athleticism about it, but it’s never too showy.
Attractive full-LED head- and tail lights are standard across the range, but the 18-inch Style 658 V-spoke alloy wheels mark the 330e out as the top-spec model. What it doesn’t get is the iPerformance styling package that adds blue highlights to the grille and wheel badges – for the more conservative Malaysian market, that’s probably a good thing. Also missing is the BMW i front fender badging found on other markets, although the eDrive badges on the C-pillars remain. The charging port is on the left front fender.
Inside, it’s standard F30 3 Series fare, with a no-frills, driver-oriented design that hides some questionable materials and trim choices, especially compared to the outstanding interiors of the C-Class and the recently-launched Audi A4. Still, it feels fairly well built for the most part, and has a clarity and simple logic to its switchgear layout and instrumentation that the others still have yet to master.
As is the case with the regular F30, the 330e exhibits impressive packaging, with plenty of head- and legroom to spare despite being smaller than the C-Class and A4. What has been compromised by the new-age powertrain is boot space, which has dropped from 480 litres to 370 litres.
Mind you, that’s still more than the C 350 e’s boot, which can house just 335 litres. More importantly, the boot floor is completely flat, whereas the Mercedes has a stepped load bay which can hamper the loading of items. Disappointingly, however, the rear bench is fixed, rather than split-folding like the C 350 e.
As befits a range-topping model, the 330e comes with such niceties as Comfort Access keyless entry (complete with handsfree bootlid opening), the full BMW Professional navigation system with an 8.8-inch widescreen display and handwriting recognition and a colour head-up display.
There’s also a sunroof and an electric rear windscreen blind – both of which are new to the local 3 Series range – and the reverse camera is finally standard and factory-fitted, instead of being a dealer-fitted option. However, the C 350 e goes one better with items like a 13-speaker Burmester surround sound system, triple-zone climate control and air suspension, along with autonomous emergency braking.
Connectivity features include the ConnectedDrive Services and Apps, including the cool Concierge Service that will even send directions directly to the navigation system. Owners can also be connected to the car through the BMW Connected app for Android and iOS, which can be used to monitor vehicle information and battery charge level, as well as to remotely activate the locks, lights, horn and climate control system.
Like most F30 3 Series models sold in Malaysia, the 330e is powered by a 2.0 litre B48 TwinPower Turbo four-cylinder petrol engine. Here, it’s in the same tune as the 320i, and produces 184 hp from 5,000 to 6,500 rpm, as well as 290 Nm of torque between 1,350 and 4,250 rpm.
Sandwiched between it and the eight-speed ZF automatic transmission is an 87 hp/250 Nm electric motor, boosting total system output to 252 hp and 420 Nm; a 5.7 kWh lithium-ion battery juices the motor. With all systems go, the 330e sprints from zero to 100 km/h in 6.1 seconds, half a second slower than the 330i. The top speed is also a slightly more modest 225 km/h rather than the 330i’s electronically-limited 250 km/h.
At the other end of the spectrum, the 330e is capable of achieving a claimed combined fuel consumption figure of just 2.1 litres per 100 km, produces carbon dioxide emissions of just 49 grams per kilometre and has an all-electric range of 35 km, with a maximum speed of 120 km/h in this mode.
Drivers can choose between three dedicated eDrive powertrain settings in addition to BMW’s usual Eco Pro, Comfort, Sport and Sport Plus driving modes. The first is the default Auto eDrive mode, which – as the name suggests – automatically manages the two power sources depending on driving conditions and the battery level, and optimises the use of both.
Put it in Max eDrive and the 330e effectively becomes a full electric vehicle, only engaging the petrol engine once the throttle’s kickdown switch is activated, at which point it switches back to Auto eDrive to provide maximum thrust. Save Battery keeps the car solely on petrol power to conserve range – except at very low revs, as the electric motor replaces the gearbox’s torque converter – and will also charge the battery up.
The car starts up in Auto eDrive and in Comfort mode, and it’s in this setup that the 330e feels the most futuristic, leaning heavily on the electric motor in most situations. Even under moderate acceleration, the car will go all the way up to 80 km/h on electric power alone – above which the petrol engine, being more efficient at these speeds, takes over propulsion duties.
It takes a determined stab on the throttle to force the four-pot into play, but it’s not the cleanest of transitions. Although the engine spins into life smoothly and instantly, the extra power doesn’t actually kick in until one or two seconds later, signalled by a sudden shove in the back as the 330e develops a second wind.
It’s much more seamless in Sport mode, in which the engine is up and running nearly all of the time, only remaining in EV mode at very low speeds. Floor it and the electric motor provides an instant surge, augmenting the already muscular petrol mill. In the right conditions, the 330e will fling itself towards the horizon at a considerable clip, and it doesn’t feel too far off the more powerful 330i in terms of outright pace.
This impressive performance is readily felt even in Max eDrive – assuming, of course, you keep the battery charged. In full EV mode, the car will happily keep up with the cut and thrust of everyday traffic, and will ably hum along at highway speeds, although the battery will be drained surprisingly quickly at triple-figure speeds.
Of course, no one will be able to match the claimed NEDC electric range of 35 km – even the trip computer shows around 32 km when fully charged, and that itself is optimistic. Take that into consideration, however, and what’s left is still a pretty decent all-electric range.
For example, en route to returning the car to BMW Malaysia’s headquarters in Cyberjaya, I managed around 25 km, which was just about enough to take me to the nearby ChargEV point at the Malaysia Automotive Institute (MAI) – all the way from my house in Bukit Jalil – on electric power alone. This, all the while driving at a pace that admittedly veered on the side of cautious, but never unrealistic or unsafe.
Save Battery lets the side down a little, particularly if you start off with a nearly flat battery. Having to both propel the car on its own and charge the battery means that the petrol engine feels a little languid, and fuel consumption easily jumps into double figures, even at a cruise.
Charging is capped at 50% here, which is controversial – and whether that’s a good thing comes down to personal preference. Fellow colleague Anthony Lim, who drove the car in Munich, didn’t like the limit – preferring it to go all the way to 100%, as the C 350 e does. His reasoning is that long journeys are perfect for charging up the battery, and once you get off the highway you have full electric charge at your disposal.
But I can understand the move on the part of BMW – letting it charge all the way means that fuel economy takes a big hit, and the halfway mark on battery charge still results in a range of more than 10 km, which should be more than enough for last-mile zero-emission jaunts. Besides, isn’t the whole point of a plug-in hybrid to charge it not on the road, but at home?
Either way, we both agree that Save Battery is where the 330e feels the least impressive. And that’s not counting the fact that in this mode you’ll have to bear with engine’s automatic start/stop system in stop-and-go traffic. While it’s much, much improved over the usual – and infamously rattly – system on other BMWs, it still gives the car a slight shake upon start-up, at odds with the car’s future-forward feel elsewhere.
In any mode, the eight-speed auto does the thankless behind-the-scenes job of putting power from two different sources to the road, all the while doing it in a smooth and responsive manner. Whether you’re mooching around in town or getting up on it on a mountain road in Sport, you’re almost always in the right gear, and for those rare instances that you’re not there are paddles for you to shift up or down as you please.
The smoothness is repeated in the powertrain, especially in full electric mode. Virtually everyone who sits in the car raves about the lack of vibration and the instant manner in which the 330e picks up pace from standstill, and even with the engine on there’s little harshness to be felt. Yes, you can hear it – augmented to sound a bit like a boxer, as with the 330i – but it’s still very much muted, even under hard acceleration.
Of course, with little noise coming from under the bonnet, the lack of refinement that is apparent on every F30 3 Series is made even more stark here. Even at moderate highway speeds there’s more than a rustle of wind noise, but all that gets drowned out by the sheer amount of tyre noise. It’s so loud, in fact, that it’s borderline uncomfortable even at a cruise, and is simply unforgivable for a premium car.
But there’s just something about the way every F30 drives that feels just right. The light steering, being electrically assisted, provides little in the way of feel and has a slightly lazy response on-centre, but flick the thick wheel more than a few millimetres and the car swings around faithfully, pivoting tightly around an invisible axis like the outer arm of a compass.
Perched low – thanks to the massive amount of seat adjustment available – and far behind the front wheels, you feel like you’re at the heart of the action, the car seemingly yawing around the seat of your pants. The instinctive, agile way the car changes direction is immensely satisfying, and makes the C-Class – which drives cleanly if unremarkably – feel like a boat in comparison.
Engaging Sport mode makes the steering heavier, but otherwise does nothing to make it less inert, although you do appreciate the extra weight when stringing together a series of corners. The brakes, however, are impressive, with a firm pedal and immense stopping power that inspires confidence – despite featuring regenerative braking, it doesn’t feel unnatural or imprecise.
Grip levels are high, to the extent that in the dry it’s nigh-on impossible to unstick it. Provoke it with enough intent and effort and the rear will step out, but the 330e doesn’t feel anywhere near as willing to slide around as the 330i, likely due to the extra weight it is carrying.
It’s much happier when you drive it cleanly and with a more judicious use of throttle. It isn’t infallible, however – in wet conditions it can be tricky to put the power down mid-corner, the stability control light blinking furiously if you so much as breathe on the right pedal.
The suspension may not feature the 330i’s adaptive dampers, but the passive setup still provides a good balance between ride and body control. Indeed, there’s a latent firmness to the ride, and you can definitely feel it over larger, sharper bumps.
The trade off, however, is that the 330e shrugs off minor surface imperfections with such ease that you wonder if they were there in the first place. It’s a level of compliance that the C-Class, for all its merits, again isn’t quite able to match, particularly on the larger alloy wheels.
The long and short of it is that the 330e is a deeply impressive machine, mostly delivering on its promise on reducing the motor car’s effect on the environment and your wallet, without sacrificing the intrinsic driving allure that characterises the propeller badge. Drive it the way you’re meant to and it can redefine what you think is possible in a car, in a way that is indeed very refreshing.
Sure, there are flaws – it’s not quite the best-driving bread-and-butter 3 Series on sale today (that would be the 330i) and the F30’s characteristic poor refinement and sub-par cabin ambience continue to rear their ugly head here. But those that can look past these issues will find a genuinely likeable sports sedan with a powertrain that delivers a charm all on its own.
But there’s a flip side to all of this all-fun-no-guilt goodness, and it’s that to really get the most out of the 330e, you will have to live in the ideal utopia that BMW envisions you to. This, we’ll admit, does include a fair few people, but also excludes plenty others.
You see, the 330e only really makes sense if there’s a regular supply of electricity to feed it. Yes, you can drive it perfectly fine without ever having to plug it in, but on a limited charge its functionality reduces to that of a standard hybrid. Run it in Auto eDrive mode with next to nothing left and the car offers all but a sliver of electric assistance, and relies on regenerative braking to charge the battery just enough to do so.
For the car to work as intended (i.e. on electric power most of the time), you will have to charge it fully at least every night, and that’s bad news for the increasing number of people residing in apartments or condominiums, almost all of which have no available sockets in the parking lot that can be used for charging.
Those living on landed property will still require a socket outside their house, limiting the car’s appeal to a small subset of people who conveniently live within these parameters. It would be better still if they have a charging station at the office – like we do here in Jaya One – to usefully double the daily real-world all-electric range to around 50 km, but even fewer people have access to that.
Even if you do fulfil all the criteria, there will still be a couple of hoops for you to jump through. For one, you have to make doubly sure that you actually charge it each and every night. Forget to fill up your regular fossil fuel-powered car and you can simply pop by the nearest petrol station; forget to charge the 330e and your only recourse is to let the petrol engine carry a whole lot of dead weight the next day.
And no, in case you were wondering, you can’t use an extension lead to charge it – I plugged the car into one the night I brought it home (I was later told this was a complete no-no) and it promptly blew a fuse on the lead. Imagine my dismay when I found out the next day that the EV range was all of three kilometres…
You might think that the i Wallbox is a must-have for this car, which is not only plenty pricey on its own at around RM6,000 a pop, but also requires a potentially expensive home installation that could cost up to RM5,000 (average around RM3,000) depending on the complexity of the install.
However, even using the standard three-pin charger that comes with the car, the charging time is a still-reasonable five hours, easily within the usual overnight charge cycle. What is a worthwhile investment is the blue Mennekes Type 2 charging cable (yes, it’s sold separately) that you see in these pictures, which comes with its own bag – it’s available at all BMW service centres at RM1,442 inclusive of GST.
This cable will allow you to use most charging stations on the ChargEV network – with a membership card bundled into the purchase of the vehicle – so you can charge your car while, say, doing the usual grocery run. Even then, it’s a flawed system; the one at the popular Suria KLCC, for example, was built to support the Nissan Leaf that was briefly sold here, and uses the incompatible CHAdeMO Type 4 connector standard.
Take all this into consideration and you’ll realise that at the end of the day, the 330e’s real-world fuel consumption varies greatly depending on how you use it. By the time I returned the car to BMW, I averaged 8.4 litres per 100 km which, while still impressive for the sort of performance the car provides, is quite a big jump from the quoted figure.
charge, as well as remotely control certain functions
It should be noted, however, that the final number included a particularly spirited drive up to Genting Highlands, as well as long stretches of driving in Save Battery mode. The latter was really the fault of this writer, as I did not adequately plan out when to charge the car, so I often ended up with a less-than-ideal level of battery charge. Those who regularly charge their cars should get considerably better mileage.
There are other unexpected benefits to frequent charging – for example, the battery essentially becomes a reserve fuel source if you run out of petrol. That’s a very real possibility with this car as the actual fuel tank measures just 41 litres, easily drained if you really make use of all the available performance from the petrol engine, particularly in Sport mode.
Case in point – during the aforementioned blast to Genting, the fuel tank ran completely dry halfway up the road to Gohtong, forcing the car into EV mode to get to the nearest petrol station. It was a unsettling experience to say the least, so it was a good job I still had 11 km of electric range to go…
Also reliant on usage is the total range – BMW quotes a figure of 595 km with both the petrol engine and the electric motor at play, but typical everyday driving would see the car return closer to 400 km, a result of the tiny fuel tank. Do bear in mind, however, that because the 330e is so reliant on the electric motor, charging it regularly could greatly extend the mileage.
So, to the original question – is the new BMW 330e really the right car for you? That really depends on several variables, perhaps more than the average buyer is willing to put up. While the car makes you make arguably the least compromise amongst the eco-friendly vehicles out there, it’s by no means hassle-free.
Buyers will have to think long and hard before they get swayed by the attractive price tag, as they will have to put up with a lot of changes to their daily routine if they really want to get the new-age driving experience it heralds. But if you are able to charge your car at home and can live with planning every route to get the most out of it, then the 330e could provide just the kind of electrifying driving experience the future promises.
The BMW 330e iPerformance Sport is priced at RM248,800 on-the-road without insurance. It comes with a five-year unlimited mileage warranty, five years’ free scheduled maintenance based on the onboard Condition Based Service (CBS), as well as a two-year tyre warranty. Browse full specifications and equipment of all BMW 3 Series models on CarBase.my.
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We all salivating for 330e vs C350e twin test!
Go go go!
If you are lazy to charge it regularly, it will be fuel guzzler machine. Like lembu minum air.
Good luck to spend your precious time recharging the car!
Charging in public. The cable might got stolen in 1 minute
The 330e locks the charging cable when the doors are locked, which is the only way to get it to charge. If the doors are unlocked, it will not charge.
Be very careful when you buy BMW and Mercedes Hybrids. Make sure you are super rich first.
Do you know the A6 Hybrid owners are having so much of problems with their hybrid systems? Every time it goes in SC, just on the electricals alone bill come to RM15k. Those outside warranty are all crying.
Another secret also is battery cost. The A6 battery cost RM52,000. Yes. You read that properly. Many owners had to pay that amount for faulty batteries once their warranty habis.
With this in mind, the 2nd hand value of Hybrids fall so fast.
You might want to ask yourself, what savings do I get from a hybrid when the day I sell my car, it is about 30% to 40% lesser than the non hybrid version.
Also, double whammy. Not just when you sell your car you lose 30% RV. When you buy your car also, the hybrid cost so much more.
I just bought a brand new 2016 (1000 KM milegae) 320i with 5 year warranty and 5 years free service. I got it for RM180k.
New 330e was RM248k. So, buying the car already I save RM80k from buying a hybrid.
Do you think I will use that amount of fuel to own a EV/Hybrid when I already save RM80k and probably save another RM50k when I sell the car?
Spot on, agreed
Ex proton operator, how to believe you katak kunta. 180k hahahahahah
you sound jealous. Work harder bro. Then you also can buy.
180k bang? Janganlah tipu kanak kanak
316 for RMm180k is just a normal price. Nothing to shout.
I buy my car 185k Quill in PJ. Same 320i. Year end promo mah
180k for 320i is possible. I got my x5 in 2015 with 5 yrs BSRI package at 260K thru their premium selection at Quill PJ. 2016 model priced 330k. Do your maths.
I will agree on your opinion if you can confidently guarantee the fuel price will not rise beyond RM4 per litre for next couple of years? I doubt it. I like to record this comment and replay it at this time next year when the fuel price rise up to RM3.5 per litre.
People in Malaysia always think Hybrid is like Honda where the battery cost only RM8k.
But German Hybrids, battery cost RM50k to RM70k
think very carefully before you buy a hybrid. After 5 years, nobody dare to buy the car.
Look at Audi A6 Hyrbid, 2013 model also can get RM120k. Sellers are so desperate to sell after 3 year warranty expired.
fuel price of RON95 will not rise beyond rm4/litre in malaysia by the end of year 2018. Nonsense.
eh, please share how you got this sweet deal? I’m looking for a good deal on a BMW 5-er.
Go to any dealer and they would offer u a good deal. The F10 is on its way out since the G30 will arrive here later this year and I bet a lot of loyalists are waiting for that baby.
520d I saw , F10 270k brand new
Go to AB.Go ask yourself. Mine was a pre reg but brand new car. they had to run it for 1000 KM to be able to sell it as pre reg.
Just came back from auto bavaria, best offer at RM210k. Mind to share where you get your deal?
The amount of BS u post is too damn high… I worry about about u mentally bro…
Nabill and Samy, I dare you both to offer me Rm10k if I can post here my involice for the car at RM180k.
Otherwise, don’t talk too much lah.
Want to accept the challenge?
You bought 316 sure 180k
Nabill and Samy, if I cannot produce invoice for RM180k from autobavaria, I will pay you both RM10k each.
Paul Tan and team are my witness. Care to take the challenge or you just talk big?
yes agreed, 316 at RM180k, how many years loan bro you take? Is the interest now at 2.8%?
perhaps the 180k is before GST and various other fees. OTR without insurance should be above 190k.
Kunta Kinte, since you have issue so many challenges to bet so you can produce the invoice to prove you bought 320i for 180K. Why not post your real name like me and post your photo. I don’t need to as i am not interested in your so call challenges
I was offered a pre reg at 500 km, could have taken it home right away. No need at all to run the car to 1000km.
Dont believe this guy, we used to work as operator at P1 for 10 years, he was caught when on using fake MC chit and got sacked.
Kunta is possibly right. There are zero mileage pre-reg BMWs at Auto Bavaria. A 320i cost RM 190k+. Technically, they have to run it to 1000km but they can also get special approval to waive this requirement. If they ran it in his case, I believe a RM 180k+ price is possible. The fact that he knows about this requirement shows that he’s speaking the truth. The other requirement is for Auto Bavaria to own the car and then transfer it to you. They will charge a RM 650 transfer fee unlike with a full price car.
Sorry.. when you can affort few hundred K of car, but still consider the saving of fuel?
Sorry… this segment is not mean for you!
The saving that you should consider is.. the 0 tax you get from CKD EEV!!!
330 might cost 300K if no EEV incentive. If you get a pre-own 330e, you can easy save 80K!
After 5 years, if you can sell it at 100K, or even 80K, your ownership cost is only around 20K a year!
That’s how you should look at the car!
Without the hybrid tax incentive the 330e car costs RM 370K
And most important, buying luxury car is not about rational, it is emotion. Have you tested the 330e .. vs your 320I? in fact, only look at the spec, you shall already know that e can give you 30% more in term of power!
Yep spot on mate. I went to sign the dotted lines with emotion and found out later on that the rear seats don’t fold flat and boy did I get an earful of nagging when my wife found out that my 480l boot space can’t even fit some large items that my previous Honda City could with its folding seats! BMW Malaysia, you have been warned! The new W205 C Class and Audi B9 have folding seats so follow them!
buy her an Avanza or a van
“Yep spot on mate. I went to sign the dotted lines with emotion and found out later on that the rear seats don’t fold flat and boy did I get an earful of nagging when my wife found out that my 480l boot space”
Lmfao seancorr im late reading this but damn this was a good laugh xD.
seancorr… LOL. agree
u buy a car with emotion/heart like my cr-z.
its not a practical/logical reasons, but it’s worth it… i hv no regrets. wahaha!
‘form over function’
Sean, I guess we will have to rent a van or get delivery for those times we need to carry long cargo. Which fortunately is rare. Otherwise the folding seats will cost almost US $2000 to retrofit.
Look around you, nowadays bmws are everywhere and no more special due to price throwing by bmw msia. Now your used bmw just got worthless by day. Sad but true.
Price throwing u also cannot afford la. Go drive your saga and shut up. BMW are everywhere? They only sold 10k units in 2016. Everywhere my foot.
Very well written and seems you are so smart, mind share with us what car u are driving, we will buy the same. You so smart bro.
How do you get it for 180k? Thats a crazy deal!!
he doesnt know what he is talking about. brand new car but mileage 1,000km? huge discounts?
that means.. it is a pre-owned / pre-reg cars lah… not new. or maybe car never registered but tested using trade plates all time.
yes pre reg but not owned. Not a demo car. Brand new car but with 1000KM mileage so that they can legally sell as pre reg.
they had to run 1000KM in few days. I inspected the car with zero mileage.
Kunta Kinte has totally mislead readers. I’m an A6 Hybrid owner and everytime i sent the car for service, never have the bill been morethan RM1,000 with intervals of about 6 months. And one more, after 4 years owning the car, there have been no problem with the hybrid battery. Toyota have embraced hybrids for almost 20 yrs and now worldwide by other makes. People like Kunta Kinte are the typical jagoh kampong Malaysias no better from mentality of a person devoid of progress technological advancement let alone matters relating to carbon footprint, climate change, greenhouse effects and the likes. That is why Malaysia is so backward in almost all aspects of human kind and instead besotted with a 3rd world mentality still!!!
this sounds like Audi salesman coming to defend his brand. Hello abang, even send Japanese car in also bill about RM1000 lah. Where got Audi bill RM1000
Lie also lie properly.
Please continue to use your old personalah, jangan buat maku saja.
The actual motivation behind the hybrid is not exactly for saving people’s wallet. It is more to save the environment. If u want to save money, motorcycle is obviously the best choice next to Axia.
A motorcycle or Axia is also better for the environment than the 330e. It’s a good effort, just cannot realise its potential in Malaysia to save the environment or save your money.
It’s not just charging points. Assuming it needs repairs after the warranty period, there will be no workshops here that can help you and you still have to go back to BMW.
How about the performance? can you get 248 HP from your 320i?
The 330e on electric drive has 20-40km range at NORMAL driving conditions. 248 hp is the petrol and electric motors together at FULL OUTPUT. Which means if you floor the pedal to 248hp, you might enjoy it for maybe 5km before the battery depletes and you drop to 184hp. Since it takes 2 hours with the BMW charging point (5 hours for wall socket) for a full charge, you can drive a few hours before you can squirt out another 5km at full output 248hp.
Whoa there, can other owners chime in on this? I am actually in the process of seriously considering a used A6 Hybrid vs a brand new 330e…kinda frightening if this is truly the case.
Does explain why is there so many low mileage A6 Hybrids out there.
(Yes yes I know im comparing two completely different segment of cars.)
The main purpose of Hybrids is not about saving money but saving the environment, by paying more you are using less fuel that pollutes the ecosystem. regarding the batteries, we are not sure how much pollution it takes to manufacture & dispose them assuming they don’t recycle the components for future use so let’s leave it aside until someone in the hybrid battery industry enlighten us about it.
Regarding 320i, it uses a lower power engine than the 330E right? so it might be a good option for you as a daily city drive, but for people wanting more power from their engine the 330E might be the better choice.
You dont call your car brand new when it has 1000km on it boy. Dont buy a preowned with your name second in the registration card and call it brand new? or you spent some $$ to interchange a number so you call it brand new?
It’s interesting, but the technology is still not quite matured enough. Range is not much to shout about despite the extra 150kg (or therabouts) of the batteries and ancillaries. And that battery does take up a lot of boot space, which is fine if you’re single, not so good if you have kids as you have less space for their stuff. Though if it came in touring (wagon) form, it would be better. But I believe BMW does not have such option for now. Though the Mercedes C350e does have a wagon version. Perhaps in another 2 generations when the batteries get smaller, higher range, quicker charge, and more boot space, then the plug in hybrid version would be an attractive proposition, for myself anyways.
Just get the mazda 6 diesel and forget all that nonsense above and still save 40,000 rupees
400km on a full 41 litre tank, with full battery charge gives 595 km…. Hmm that’s pretty weak.
Most modern Japanese cars with 50 litre tank can give you upwards of 550km on a full tank.
Where’s the improvement then? Maybe just the tax exemption.
But will those Japanese cars do 0-100 in 6 seconds?
Lexus LC500h can give you 0-100 below 4 seconds. you racing on the road, dude?
what is wrong with you.
You’re narrow-minded and completely missed what I was trying to imply: Japanese cars that he was talking about may be more fuel-efficient, but lag in performance compared to the 330e. There’s no comparison.
Obviously this is purely about badge envy
Like I’ve said before, it’s just another forgettable review by Mr. Lee. BMW Malaysia needs to ban this fool from reviewing their cars.
Alright, let me do some math for you.
Japanese: 9.09L/100KM
330e (without electicity): 10.25L/100KM
330e (with electricity): 6.89L/100KM
So clearly, even with your made up numbers the 330e with electricity produces lower fuel consumption. Pretty sure that’s the improvement. Do your math before you post la aduih.
stupid Fuyiopo doesnt comprehend the difference between RANGE and FUEL Consumption
What the…?What? Are you reading what you’re writing? Are you trolling or really that stupid?
my other car toyota camry gives me 480km on a 60 litres tank…maybe smaller car with bigger tank
Not a car for Msia . Scandinavian countries…..yes
184 vs 252… different world!
Hi Jonathan,
Does the Navigation Professional GPS in this car comes with Live Traffic?
Unfortunately, that function doesn’t work in Malaysia.
Wtf. Is there any particular reason why? If it works in the UK it should work here too.
Quite simply, carmakers can’t get live traffic information in Malaysia the same way they can in other countries, so that functionality is not available here.
Live traffic data is spotty in Malaysia. There aren’t many traffic cams around in KL, almost none outside and they barely work.
Malaysia is not a major market so if the data isn’t available, manufacturers won’t work particularly hard to make this work here.
This is the first gen plug in hybrid for the 3er and as highlighted by the author, there are some catches (and no folding rear seats is a real bummer) if you want to fully take advantage of the system else you would be carrying all those deadweight batteries around if you don’t charge it regularly. I’ve seen quite a few on the road but not as much as I expected.
But in saying so have you all seen the G30 530e? BMW has made some advancements whereby the larger car is almost as quick as the 330e and the fuel savings are impressive too. Imagine what the G20 330e will be like when it arrives in 2019. I wouldn’t be surprised if it can outrun the current F30 330i in terms of outright performance and the FC/mileage will definitely be better than the current F30 330e.
Jonathan, what do u mean cannot use extension lead? Are you saying we cant use a extension pull a cable from house inside to car pouch to charge the car? Must install a new power socket to charge?
You’re not supposed to use an extension lead from inside the house, as the car’s power draw can be too much for the extension to handle – it blew a fuse on mine. Ideally, the car should be charged through a standalone power socket outside the house.
Yes Jonathan mean only a wall plug can charge not extension or multiple plug. Because the power it draw will melt the extension cord. Tried and tested.
Yes, especially those cheap ones you can buy from hardware stores. The copper wires inside are so skinny which is a danger to use for high wattage applications. Don’t play play.
you have to understand the spec of those extension cables. Cheap doesnt mean not good. Check the cable ampere rating and compare to the device requirement. If the device requirement is so much high than the cable rating, not only the cable going to melt, the wall socket also possible to melt!
Our cables are a bit expensive ;)
So many pipu kena troll by the Kunta@Albert troll. LOLZ!
If the fuel tank is 41 litres why run out of fuel halfway to Genting unless you forget to put in fuel? Easily get 500Km mileage
Of course, I didn’t start off the journey with a full tank of fuel, but it did use up whatever was left (which was around half a tank) very quickly indeed. Do bear in mind that I was gunning it pretty much the whole way up, however, so it’s not really representative of everyday use.
I wouldn’t blame you. The 330e tank is small at 41 litres compared to 60 litres on any other 3 series.
Jon, what do you think of the chance of the 330i coming back?
I know it was only just dropped from the January 2017 pricelist, but the reality is BMW dropped it in August right after their “sale.” They simply did not update the list and are still carrying it on their website.
One dealer told me there is a chance it might come back after they get 330e production started up. It strikes me as odd the 330e is available in Malaysia where petrol is cheap, charging infrastructure is poor and there is no higher spec 3 series to compete with the C250 and above.
Been using for 2 months now and i use it like my prius. no problems no need to charge from the power socket. Using save battery mode when i need then switch to Auto eDrive.
Just stop and get off my query on the 330i. You’ve been defending your 330e on the whole d*mn thread already. The whole godd*mn thread.
As the reviewer wrote, never charging it means means you carry a lot of dead weight around. Probably have negative fuel savings compared to a 320i, just that you have no means to measure and are too biased to care.
Likewise you been talking about the 320i all over the thread. the difference is still 330e 248hp to your 320i 184hp…at almost the same price of a 320i and so many other spec that the 330e have over the 320i.
Talk cock. This is my first and only post on the page.
Electric drive has 20-40km range at normal driving conditions. Floor pedal to 248hp and see what happens. Maybe enjoy 248hp for 5km. After that back to 184hp.
Why have I only made one post? Because I don’t have a dog in this fight. Unlike you who thinks every comment will increase or decrease the value of your “investment.”
If everything you said is true, if hybrid power is so strong, then why does BMW produce it almost as the bottom model? There are only 330e and 2 series MPV hybrid.
There will be 530e. Why is there no 340e or 550e, no 2 series or 4 series or 6 series coupe hybrid at all? Should be easy for BMW since 3 and 4 series are so similar right? You are close to the bottom, yet here you are casting aspersions at the only model below yours.
For your info i am not talking co#k, the engine will charge the HV battery or when you are not pressing down on the pedal and when you brake. so try to understand what is the type of hybrid before you comment.
As I said, you haven’t answered why BMW only produces hybrids at the next to bottom models, using the bottom model petrol engines plus electric motor? There is no 340e, 550e, 4 or 6 series hybrid in any high end model or series.
You’re right. It recharges while driving. Since it takes 2 hours (5 for wall socket) to charge full battery, you can drive a few hours to recharge. After that you can squirt out another 5km (2 minutes) at full output 248hp.
Yeah , I know your cable is expensive one… how many names have you? i am not worried about my investment not like you. nobody invest in cars. small people like you think that buying a car is an investment. go play with your mattel toy cars if they still produce. by the way the fuse blow could be due to an underrated fuse
We can’t say, since BMW Group Malaysia has not talked about those plans as yet. I doubt it will bring it back, however, since the 330e offers nearly as much performance for less money.
Main changes in the 330e versus the 330i are:
No more M Sport bodykit and 18″ 441M rims.
Removal of M Adaptive suspension (standard suspension fitted).
Removal of M Sport blue trim and anthracite headliner, pillars (black trim and beige headliner, pillars fitted).
Addition of sunroof.
Heads up display and Navigation System Professional remain.
addition reverse camera
Continuing:
Removal of Variable Sport Steering. It was controversial and don’t know why BMW Malaysia selected it in the first place.
Actually when it is running on “Save Battery” mode, it can charge up to 90% of which after that it will slowly creep up to 95%.. This is the maximum I ever get and running the car on Save Battery mode will certainly consume more petrol than when on Auto Mode (even with a depleted battery).
Best thing is to just leave it in Auto mode. It offers the best performance and petrol consumption (even when battery is depleted albeit doesn’t save as much as when the battery is fully charged).
Apart from the electric driving mode, I believe how this car saves fuel consumption when on highway is to have the electric motor assist the gasoline engine as we accelerate and cruise. When in Auto Mode, the battery is still being tapped on as the electric motor run side-by-side with the petrol engine (up to 170 kmh I believe). Hence it doesn’t charge the battery while you are driving on the highway albeit lesser battery consumption only. This allows the car to save on consumption of fuel due to assistance provided by the electric motor.
Hence the best way to drive this car is to constantly use the Auto Mode and charge it whenever you can.
You are right… after trying various modes and ways, auto drive is still the best. I drive in a very urban setting and lives up a hill. I still manage to get very good fuel consumption. I can moniter this through the BMW remote via satellite.
pls, bring back F30 320d, or 330d. can tapau all hybrid on fuel consumption and definitely on performance too
8.4L/100km figure just turn me off. 350e review please. or perhaps opting for a regular hybrid is more feasible in malaysia urban suburban driving culture?
Anything BMW and I tune in! I love BMW and I have never owned a car from another manufacturer. For me they are the top dog. I wouldn’t be interested in anything else.
Does the airconditioner run on battery alone mode?
Yes, possible.
330e owner here. Got my car Nov 2016, and it’s April 2017 now.
Nice car, but within this 6 months, my car has spent total of 4 weeks in workshop and another 3 weeks driven in fault conditions. Replacement of parts require 2 weeks shipping period (not sure why, as the car is CKD).
SC is okey, but the experience/expertise to service PHEV is still very limited (imho).
Btw, if anybody wondering on fuel consumption, my commute is about 110km a day. With traffic jam and stuffs, I’m getting about 5.1l/100km, better on some days. I charge daily, and drive on engine with battery full (ie Sports mode but light footed :-):-) ). Turn to edrive when in standstill and nearing the end of commute back until battery depletion. I find this gives better consumption than when using the battery first (at least for my commute profile).
My last weekly average that I noted was 4.8l/100km. (Car still being attended to :-))
Hi,im just curious. How much does one night charging cost in electric bills in average? Im living in a rented house. Somwhen my new housemate came with this car,the electric bills like off the charts.
A full charge from empty is 5.2kWh. That is about turning on 1hp aircond for 4 hours. The actual cost depends on the utilization tier at the month end.
Can the 330e be driven like a normal ICE car without charging battery? Say the battery is broken and I do not want to pay like RM20k to replace it.