Proton Savvy Automatic to get Renault Quickshift5
As you all know, the Proton Savvy models offered currently does not have an automatic transmission model. But what Proton is planning to offer to people who prefer the convenience of automatic in a Proton Savvy is not something usual. Normal automatic gearboxes are not liked very much by performance freaks because of it’s big power loss due to the torque converter, and lack of response to the throttle position and shift level changes.
The automatic variant of the Proton Savvy will be using something new which Proton likes to call a Automated-Manual Transmission, or Proton AMT for short. This gearbox is basically the Renault Quickshift5 gearbox, which is available in the Renault Clio. After all, the Proton Savvy was loosely based on the Clio.
Left: Gear position indicator on the Savvy meter panel. In the manual version that space is blank. Right: The Clio’s Quickshift gear lever.
The Renault Quickshift5 is a clutchless manual transmission gearbox. Yes, it works like a manual transmission with clutches and gears, not like an oil-driven automatic with a torque converter. No power loss there. It also has the speedy response of a manual transmission. All of that without the inconvenience of having to press a clutch, especially in traffic jams.
The Quickshift5, or Automated-Manual Transmission (AMT) as Proton likes to call it has 5 gears as you would expect from the name. There are 2 modes to it, a manual selection mode where you can switch through the gears sequentially by flicking the gear lever frontwards or backwards. The gearbox was derived from Renault’s normal 5 speed manual gearbox, but an electronic control module was added to it to operate the clutch electronically. The other mode is an automatic mode which shifts gears on it’s own and requires no intervention from the driver.
Because the clutch control is computerized with precised timing, shifts are much quicker than any average driver can ever attempt with a normal manual gearbox and foot-operated clutch. The result is a driving experience that’s zippy and fun. The computer features some form of fuzzy logic which allows the auto mode to adapt to your driving patterns.
Since the Quickshift5 is derived from a normal manual gearbox, it is lighter than an automatic gearbox thus improving fuel economy and performance.
Note: I am basing this blog post on Renault’s Quickshift5 gearbox, which has already been outdated by it’s Quickshift 6 speed gearbox. It is not known whether Proton’s variant of Quickshift5 will have all of the features I’ve mentioned. The Proton Savvy with Quickshift5 is still under testing with Malaysian road conditions.
UPDATE: The Savvy AMT has been launched. Details here.
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Proton Savvy Launch at 5pm today!
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Proton Savvy Automatic to get Renault’s Quickshift 5
June 10, 2005 @ 9:03 pm
I have been dreaming of clutchless manual for a long time, seems it has become a reality a while back.
June 10, 2005 @ 9:16 pm
I went to check out Savvy and Myvi. Me no fan of Perodua (especially the Kancil), but sadly and frankly speaking, Myvi does offer much more features, better quality and finer finishing with similar price.
June 10, 2005 @ 9:18 pm
I really don’t know why everyone is comparing the Myvi to the Savvy.
Myvi = mini MPV. eg: Picanto.
Savvy = small hot hatch. eg: Kelisa.
June 10, 2005 @ 10:53 pm
“I really don’t know why everyone is comparing the Myvi to the Savvy.
Myvi = mini MPV. eg: Picanto.
Savvy = small hot hatch. eg: Kelisa.”
well said paul. went to see both cars in the last week. myvi more of a wira rival, whereas savvy pitched against kelisa.
June 10, 2005 @ 11:37 pm
that is because of proton’s stupid advert. Walauueh.. lucky i didnot booked savvy. Who cares about clutchless gear. People want space not cramp.
June 11, 2005 @ 12:24 am
the gear system reli brighten my eye..
its so nice to hear that it is reli a manual gearbox with no clutch onli..still it means it has the better performance,quicker shift timing(this is so good) than any other clutch-on pedal car,doest lose power..waaa..alot of nice thing about this engine system la..but still wat turns me down is becoz it is place in Savvy
diu~
June 11, 2005 @ 5:55 am
Damn… so that means I am going to get owned by some sissies who kenot drive manual?! T__T
June 11, 2005 @ 7:48 am
The AMT sounds so sweet and cutting edge. (For Proton, at least.)
June 11, 2005 @ 10:42 am
This question was posted on the yahoo.com.my
“Should the government protect Proton from foreign competition?”
more than 65% respondence agree to “No protection please. Proton needs to compete globally or sink ”
Having to raise my children, I know we to let them learn by themselves.
Our son Proton is now 30 years old, still studying in the University, and when there was a big bully push him around, father have to make a trip to the school to inform the teacher , and look for the bully.
Poor old father is now 65+ and one will imagine how long will father still need to do this.
Our son Proton graduated and started working is a big firm, at now age 40, married and have child of his own, his manager scolded our son proton and make him do the report again, poor old father, now at age 75+, DO YOU THINK HE NEED TO GO TO THE OFFICE TO SCOLD THE MANAGER.
GROW UP PROTON
June 11, 2005 @ 1:43 pm
Hahahahaha!! That’s funny dude!!
June 11, 2005 @ 3:44 pm
Simple…because it’s become a competition between Proton and Perodua where they just launched a new car each in the space of…2 weeks?
It may not be the same, but to many, both are small cars and worth comparing simply because the engine displacement is almost the same.
So it’s natural for us to compare. =P
June 11, 2005 @ 5:59 pm
Engine displacement between 2 cars are almost the same but myvi has more features like twin cam and dvvti,abs and air bag,but how abt savvy?it has none of the above,so savvy is lousy.
Grow up proton.Everyday I am dreaming of one day everyone of us can buy a local car with a good powerful engine-campro with camshaft profiling(not the current campro engine in gen2 without campro,abs,esp,traction control bla bla with a reasonable price.
Our local car is expensive compared to Japan,Korea,Europe and the other countries.When will everyone of us can buy a good high quality buatan Malaysia car cheaply?
Bah,forget abt it.The day will never come unless Proton can really grow up.Maybe 1 or 2 century later.
June 12, 2005 @ 9:24 am
it’s look like matchbox!
June 12, 2005 @ 1:10 pm
Hv. anybody ever think of maintainance cost of newly launch P.Savvy? Will it be another episode of his predesessor? Any comment paul?
June 12, 2005 @ 2:10 pm
hey paul..may u wanna check this out..proton ultimate??? http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=13332
June 12, 2005 @ 5:52 pm
Clutchless system for Proton, more repair cost for Proton owners :p
June 12, 2005 @ 6:32 pm
kinda like the honda steermatic thing huh ?
June 12, 2005 @ 8:05 pm
walau… i believe if they come with usual auto will earn more than this new toy, atleast they must know what mostly auto buyer thinking…
June 12, 2005 @ 9:44 pm
[...] ng. Update: Also, from Paul, there wouldn’t be an automatic Proton Savvy, rather an semi-automatic. Sorry Myvi, Proton won my heart. Hope [...]
June 13, 2005 @ 11:00 am
Well,Mr Harry the pote’,things are simple….uneed space hah,well why dont u go for renault espace???? I’m sorry, u seems to be real pote’…..
June 13, 2005 @ 11:46 am
Malaysian government should learn like so country, where cars above a number of years are scrap.
There is basically 2 way to make money for proton
1) sell the car expensive, make HUGE profit on each car sold, but sale is low.
2) sell the cars cheap, make small profit, but sell more cars.
Example, sell 1 proton car to make RM10,000 each, so manage to sell 1 car only, or sell the car with RM2,000 profit, but manage to sell 5 cars.
by the way proton are selling the cars, they opp for option 1, sell cars EXPENSIVE.
If proton can sell car cheap, the government could consider scrap car above 20 years, gradually decrease to 15 years.
Look at the old old cars on the road, are they road worth ??
June 13, 2005 @ 1:19 pm
perodua got a very good management system. they knew that quality is more important than design a new car.
they are doing step by step, they copy other cars and provide a good quality materials. when they think that they can design their own car, people still faithfull with their workmanship.
unlike proton, he still not mature but wan to act like adult, what a stupid brain!!! eventhought they are design a new car but ppl still not believe their quality.
so, perodua, i really feel proud of you. i hope i can see your own design car soon. keep improve.
June 13, 2005 @ 11:02 pm
Dear P2,how about the prototype model as u have shown us?i think it is good model for moderate use,not for speed but spacious and city use.you can do it guys!!but give us lower price pls
June 14, 2005 @ 8:31 am
Renault’s Clutchless Automatic
The Renault Quickshift5 is based on a Proton clutchless manual transmission….
June 14, 2005 @ 9:41 am
Was surprised to see a black savvy in the carpark on my way to the office.. seems pretty much kelisa-sized
June 14, 2005 @ 3:15 pm
Putu, what makes you think I dont have one? I am just curious what segment of the market Proton is targetting with savvy. Looks like the type of person who will buy savvy is young yuppies. But then again these young people will wait for srm.
I’m sorry for u too dude.
June 14, 2005 @ 7:37 pm
apa kebendela savvy ni.. harga tak kena dgn spec. takde apa yang special selain rupa.. buat apa nak naikkan cost utk clutchless tu. baik upgrade bende lain. “ABS ke airbag ke”.. tak buat R&D ke?
June 15, 2005 @ 4:03 pm
saya cuma nak bagitahu u all ni kenapalah nak kutuk-kutuk dua2 keta ini. nak canggih duitnya kenalah canggih jugak kan so fairlah dengan harga dia. lagi satu nak bagitahu depa cipta keta ini pasal jalanraya dah sesak so buatlah kecik dan ringkas just untuk santai dan gi keje je bukan untuk racing atau lain-lain. tapi saya setuju mereka yang kata syvv baik dari segi body dan handling masa nak corner pasal perodua dia punya penghasilan selalu agak ringgan dan tak selesa sikit masa duduk (refer to kancil dan kelisa) rasa macam tertengekje dalam keta berbanding dengan keta-keta rekaan proton yang lain lebih luas dan selesa bila duduk didalamnya.. anyway saya minat satria Auto comfortable dan luas.. and still proud of malaysian tak kiralah dia reka keta baru ke atau kejayaan lain nye thanx
June 17, 2005 @ 9:43 am
Aku maleh nak komen….la…aku penah pakai perodua dan proton….tapi kecewa sgt….sakit hati dan badan aku…la ni pakai toyota plak
Dekat dua tahun dah….peh jauh beza…proud to be Malaysian? Yes I am….pasai tu aku tak lari bayaq income tax…please lahhhh proton and perodua…asik cosmetic changes jer…tu yg iswara zaman bapak aku beli dulu pun masih ada jual lagi…apa dah jd ngan JUWARA?…tak buat homework ngan market survey ler tuh…R&D plak asyik buat soupy snack….sampai tak de masa nak kejer….aku rasa ramai sgt Melayu kot dlm 2 kompeni nih….Kena panggil lah kawan Cina dan India kita sama-sama cari solution…amacam?
June 17, 2005 @ 2:36 pm
Betul cakap kawan kita iaitu Burhanuddin nih.
The 2 companies should have more diversity when it comes to generating new ideas. There will be a clash of interests but hey, its good for growth & development.
I said this cos I have seen bosses having HOURS of argument in the boardroom but in the end, they concur with the final solution.(Typical of multi-national companies) GADUH DULU SEBELUM KERJA is better than KERJA DULU KEMUDIAN GADUH. In other words, do lots of brainstorming before going for a solution rather than having lots of problem later on.
But kudos for Perodua for coming up with a very reliable car a.k.a. Myvi.
June 17, 2005 @ 3:41 pm
To be fair, this AMT/sequential thingy is a technology long time waiting. It will be great to drive manually on a road like the Cameron Highlands/Genting and to be on the auto mode during the traffic jams in KL.
Hope the servicing will not be a murder though.
Expect to see this in the SRM as well. Just imagine the SRM GTI with this AMT tech and potential 150 BHP on tap?!! Then I’ll be in the line for booking.
June 18, 2005 @ 10:28 am
Read the Business Time yesterday .
MyVi booking already surpass 33,000 units. Already 33,000 people are sure that MyVi is better then Savvy.
Proton…. start thinking.
June 19, 2005 @ 11:53 pm
hahaha… keep on dreaming… Proton oh Proton…
June 22, 2005 @ 3:22 pm
manufacturing cost has ot be taken into consideration… think proton can;t go lower on price because it costs them a bomb to make them… its a question of… improving manufacturing efficiency… it is definitely a case of too many workers and too slow workers…
July 7, 2005 @ 10:19 am
Those people buying MYVI are those not buying jazz, aveo, getz, mini and swift (super minis). Savvy is a mini thus competes with kelisa and picanto….. cheers.
July 23, 2005 @ 4:29 pm
alamak… semua org tak suka savvy….
aku dah terbeli ni cam ner…. rugi laaaaa
August 4, 2005 @ 8:05 pm
Sleep Boy,have some confident on the car u oredi beli.i have placed my booking for savvy AMT.i saw manual savvy at the roadside today n i think its not tht bad after all.
August 4, 2005 @ 11:59 pm
cananyone explain to me how the AMT looks like????izit operate like manual with clutch?or automatic without clutch??confused
August 5, 2005 @ 8:58 pm
So far Savvy looks okey for me. Yeah like the look, exterior and interior.
I ordered black Savvy, will look sportier with the spoiler and tinted..like R3..hehe
TUV approved some more.. adding my confidence on the quality.
August 14, 2005 @ 11:58 am
suatu hari orang akan berkata bahawa savvy bagus!!!!
August 22, 2005 @ 8:58 am
Saw the Savvy AMT at a road show by EON….. pretty cool. Test drive the SAVVY manual, soak all the bumps and uneven road, quiet… has that European Feel. If u dont have much money to buy a peugeot, citreon or any european cars… than this is the car but if dont have enough money to buy thailand’s vios or honda city, than buy MYVI. I would buy savvy AMT for my wife and WIRA manual (tight budget) for me cos WIRA has bigger booth, 1.5 engine and cheaper.
August 27, 2005 @ 1:00 am
ello guyzzz…
I just booked Proton Savvy AMT… That was before I see what that AMT look like. At first, I feel very disappointed when I saw it (The gear knob. From this site of cause). But if it come with pedals mounted on the steering wheel like paul said… well that gonna put a smile on my face (Fancy some F1 car anyone?..hehehe). You all might ask why Savvy? Well, why not. It’s got looks, speed, handling and the financing scheme really hard to ignore by those who got tight budget like me.
I’m not really an automatic transmission fan. If I can choose I would go for manual. Sadly under some unavoided factor I have no choice but to book the Savvy AMT. To console myself form the mistake I have done I have look around for this AMT and what it all about. So here is my finding. (Which is you all already know about it)
From Renault site the gear knob for Quickshift5 only got four characters on it. Which is - & + on the left side, R & N on the right side. We changes gears by flicking the knob. Just like we use our feet to changes gears when we ride automatic transmission under bone motorbike. But like paul said in these website (also mention by Renault) there’s a full automatic mode. Just like we put our gear on D when we use others automatic transmission cars. (But sadly there no picture of it)
I like to hear from those who already seen and test drive savvy AMT. We already know the handling or the engine performance side. Sad for MyVi…or Kelisa. If it got what Savvy have I will go for those two cars. MyVi only offer bigger interior (and extra 0.1 @ 0.2 cc) and maybe those airbag, that all…Don’t get me wrong. I’m using Kancil 660 right now. Apart being small, it has served me very well. Already take it to KL twice, Lumut once, Mersing, Desaru…errr lost count there. Ohh… I’m living in Gelang Patah right now, at least once a week I take my family of 3 to JB and once a month I will go back to my home town in Batu Pahat. Actually I’m very proud of it. Hmmmm…..
Renault Quickshift5
http://motoring.excite.co.uk/display/visualizzanews.php3?id=11157
August 27, 2005 @ 5:07 am
Is the Savvy AMT available for customers now????i’ve booked a black Savvy…
September 2, 2005 @ 4:13 pm
I’m booked black savvy too. Oh, I think I will get “the manual” after all. Hehehe… Thank you GOD.
September 2, 2005 @ 6:49 pm
Savvy vs. Myvi shoot-out….
Standard Stock Savvy against race prepared 1.3 & 1.0 Myvi… And the winner is….
http://www.autoworld.com.my/EMZine/Review/viewarticle.asp?awReviewID=1928&awCatID=RT.ATC.CAR.MTR
October 14, 2005 @ 12:31 pm
SAVVY MEMANG BEST, BAGUS……TAK KENAL MAKA TAK CINTA……CUBA DULU BARU TAU LANGGIT TU TINGGI ATAU RENDAH….RASANYA DAH TAU KOT LANGIT TU TINGGI…..MEMANG PUAS HATI…..MINYAK JIMAT,ENJIN POWER….TEKAN LAH MINYAK MACAM MANER PUN…TETAP STEADY…SPARE PART LEBIH KURANG KELISA/SATRIA JERRRR…..
October 21, 2005 @ 8:31 pm
myvi sux !!!!
savvy rox !!!
those who say savvy sux is those who donno anything about cars !
don believe ask those car mag journalist , savvy got handling , myvi got nth !
hahaha !
October 22, 2005 @ 8:56 pm
aiseh….kete aku kua lepas raya…..lambat woo….ingat nak test savvy balik kampoong
October 24, 2005 @ 5:28 pm
TERUS TERANG SAYA KATA….DARI AMBIL KELISA LEBIH BAIK AMBIL SAVVY….KOS KELISA LEBIH MAHAL DARI SAVVY…..SEBAB KELISA DARI DAIHATSU…JADI DIA MESTI BAGI 2 KEUNTUNGAN….DARI SPARE PART LAH DIA ORANG TARIK UNTUNG…..SPARE PART PROTON BOLEH KAU TIM….SAVVY LANGGAR TIANG BUMPER TAK ROBOH….KEMEK JER…KALAU BUAH HATI NAK PINJAM PUN TAK PERLU RISAU….CUMA KEMEK JER…KALAU KELISA ,MAKAN ENJIN OOOOOOOO………..JUAL PUN TAK LAKU….HARGA TAK JAUH BEZA……YANG PENTING KUALITI ENJIN….NAK RASA KERETA MAHAL TAK MAMPU….JADI SAVVY,ANDA AKAN MERASA APA ITU KUALITI…..
October 27, 2005 @ 3:34 pm
Still waiting for Savvy AMT or should I buy Wira SE-manual, but after stuck 2 hours jam in Sungai Buloh make me want to buy an auto, but don’t like Auto higher FC..Still fancy of cars that ride like rally, tout handling. AMT for me then…
October 28, 2005 @ 11:03 am
I drive a Savvy..for almost 2 monhts now..I think it is a great car..I can drive my car up to 160 without any trouble with the handling compare than my wira..and for me handling is very important along with the power..and savvy suite it.
October 29, 2005 @ 12:43 am
I got savvy with green-appel colour, everybody said it’s nice look.
One thing I want to tell you,
Once I drived savvy, I feel like continental car.
More fantastic !!!! fuel consumption like Japanes car.
Now’s a day fuel’s price quite exspensive,
It’s good for less budget’s life.
November 14, 2005 @ 3:58 pm
Just saw the Sayyvy ads, metal grey look refreshing and with an add on wide bodykit, can challenge the grey Chevvy Aveo. Now just wonder why Proton don’t copy the same size as Aveo and Getz. If it is sure a hit.
November 16, 2005 @ 3:46 pm
Brapa kali lagi aku nak khabaq kat hangpa nih? Jangan dok perabih masa kutuk Proton!! Pi buat kerja.. cepaaaat!!
November 18, 2005 @ 2:28 pm
assalamualaikum wbth..
saya tidak mempersoalkan mana-mana pendapat..tetapi kenapa kereta yang sebenarnya keluaran Daihatsu yang menggunakan nama Daihatsu tidak popular di Malaysia..akan tetapi bial dilekatkan nama KANCIL, kELISA, KEMBARA, MYVI ia dengan senang menjadi pilihan rakyat Malaysia. Sedangkan semuanya dari Daihatsu..kenapa tidak guna sahaja nama Daihatsu Boon bagi MYVI yang sememangnya adalah Daihatsu Boon..bagi saya jika menggunakan nama Daihatsu Boon dan diedarkan juga menggunakan gelaran syarikat Daihatsu bukan perodua nescaya ia juga tidak akan popular sebagaimana kereta keluaran Daihatsu yang lain bagi pasaran Malaysia..Proton bagi saya sudah banyak kejayaan dengan usianya yang mencecah 20 tahun yang masih di usia akhir remaja..sudah pasti perlukan masa untuk matang menjadi dewasa sebagaimana Toyota dan Nissan YANG SUDAH HAMPIR MENCECAH tua usia kelahirannya YANG TERLALU PADAT DENGAN ILMU DAN PENGALAMAN..Akan tetapi proton di usia 20 tahun berdiri megah dengan hasilnya SAVVY yang terbaru walaupun mendapat kutukan dari anak watan sendiri…terkuburnya proton membawa kepada gambaran kegaGALAN rakayat Malaysia yang keseluruhannya (yang berbangga dengan keluaran asing)yang masih dijajah dengan pemikiran mengagongkan orang luar sehinggakan tidak ternampak kelebihan anak sendiri..tq
November 19, 2005 @ 10:22 pm
my booked savvy amt dah sampai.. anybody wants to buy limited edition kelisa (red/black) manual?… heheh cant wait to test the new car.. been driving kelisa for 3 years.. because of the leather seat it was comfortable.. tapi to those yang pakai kelisa seat biasa quite uncomfortable jugak lah.. booked savvy because to many Myvi on the road lah..
November 21, 2005 @ 12:07 pm
booked savvy AMT yesterday, hopefully will get the car sometime next month. early next month would be great.
November 23, 2005 @ 2:55 pm
Mine is different…
I think that I’m a patriotic citizen of Malaysia, but I booked the Kelisa yesterday.
I booked the Kelisa and not Savvy becoz I didn’t do homework, I just make a quick decision. Initially I only just wanna buy Kancil, but changes mind when I accidentally tried my friend Kelisa.
Maybe, this is due to lack of interest in cars, i just bought the car (Kelisa) when my old Mitsubishi Lancer A172A stuck too long in the workshop for repairing (oil pump problem then do grand valve) …
Ah.. Im tired now using old car !
October 24, 2006 @ 3:53 pm
[...] The 1.6 liter Dual VVT-i and the 1.4 liter D-4D turbodiesel engine also have an option for Toyota’s MultiMode transmission, which is basically a manual transmission with a computer controlled clutch, like Honda’s i-SHIFT or Proton’s AMT. The thing is, the same 1.6 Dual VVT-i equipped with a MultiMode transmission raises 0-100km/h acceleration time from 10.4 seconds to 12.1 seconds, and the 1.4 D4-D’s time is slower (14.7 seconds versus 12.0) so I suppose the shifting speed of this transmission is not really that great, far from what Volkswagen has achieved with DSG. Honda has got some bad reviews about it’s i-SHIFT, so Toyota had better not end up with the same predicament. [...]
November 8, 2006 @ 8:03 am
i plan to buy savvy in this year…
but one thing in my mind is the cost of maintainance…
can we service AMT engine outside proton service center ?
February 8, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
i love to dreve a savvy home..but one ting on my budget list..is the savvy AMT tu jimat minyak or not..?or the ordinary manual lg jimat?? plzz anyone who experienced driving ur savvy???? huhu tak sabar nk book!!
vote 4 PROTON.. =P