The big news from last week was the naming of the anchor company for the new national car project by the government. DreamEdge got the nod ahead of other bidders and will now work towards showing a prototype in March 2020, ahead of a market debut in March 2021. Daihatsu will provide technology support, but it’s a business deal without equity partnership from the Japanese.
Aside from stating it will be an “exclusive model with a new approach to segmentation,” few specific details were divulged at last week’s briefing. However, DreamEdge CEO Khairil Adri Adnan did reveal that it would be a plus-sized B-segment sedan (originally mentioned as a C-segment) equipped with a regular ICE or hybrid powertrain, The car will be built via contract manufacturing.
The announcement brought about more questions than answers, although the government and DreamEdge will be meeting the press the end of this month to show a mock-up of the new car. Hopefully, we’ll know more about the car then. For now, the two big questions are: who is DreamEdge, and what makes a national car? We’ve already shed light on DreamEdge in a separate piece last week; now here’s the criteria needed to be a national car in Malaysia.
According to Datuk Madani Sahari, CEO of the Malaysia Automotive Robotics and IoT Institute (MARii), a company needs to fulfil six criteria to qualify as a national car company. “The six criteria are more important than the word ‘national’. We can exchange the word national to Malaysian car company or Madani car company or Anthony car company,” Madani said, referring to our man Anthony Lim.
“The word ‘national’ actually means nothing, what’s more important is that it fulfils the six criteria,” he stressed. So, what are the six things that a car company needs to be national?
“The first criteria is ‘privately funded’ with no government money whatsoever. Number two is that Malaysian equity must be higher – a Malaysian company. Number three, the company’s supply chain must be 75% Malaysian, minimum,” Madani said, explaining that vendors and dealerships are part of a car company’s supply chain. “Number four, manpower. We only allow 2% foreign manpower, 98% must be Malaysian,” he added.
Moving on, the MARii CEO said that the fifth criteria is that the national car “has to align with our definition of next-generation vehicles as in the National Automotive Policy.” The NAP revision, which was reported to be under review in June last year, was expected to be announced in Q1 this year. Then in April, it was announced that the revised policy announcement would be shifted to the second quarter. We’re now in Q3.
Madani did not elaborate on what makes a next-generation vehicle, but said that the definition will be ready by early 2022, and implementation will start from 2025.
The last criteria is significant research and development (R&D) contribution. “Basically, the best is having the entire R&D in Malaysia. However, we do give special exemption now for the platform, because we know that the platform is something carmakers share. Other than the platform, it can be done in Malaysia. That’s the minimum,” he explained.
To recap, the six criteria are being privately funded, higher Malaysian equity, majority Malaysian supply chain, majority Malaysian manpower, in-line with the government’s definition of next-generation vehicles (to be revealed in the NAP revision) and significant R&D contribution. More on DreamEdge here.
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Hahahahahahah…
Thank you PT for making me laugh this evening.
What is funny?
He is laughing, Madani gave so many new jobs.
He is laughing, Madani gave so many new opportunities to new cronies.
*Fixed for you there mate.
Madani worked with old cronies so no wonder.
Here the proof. See
https://paultan.org/2015/07/02/tun-mahathir-takes-a-swipe-at-mai-on-auto-policies/
LGE told us this lie
https://paultan.org/2018/08/14/third-national-car-will-use-private-sector-money-lge/
Najib lied to us for 30% cars price reduction which we never get.
Since the first criteria is ‘privately funded’ with no government money, does it mean that 3rd national car can be owned by the Gov as long as it is ‘privately funded’?
So LGE is correct.
Is Proton a national car any more then ? If not , remove all its tax benefits and slap it with anti dumping tariff
Proton still got Saga, Iriz, Persona, Exora so it’s still a national car. While Perodua cars are all rebadged yet they still continue to receive tax benefits and not slapped with anti dumping tariffs.
Most important criteria is…..make sure right hand drive. No left hand drive!!! This is asian country, not western. So right hand drive is for us.
Philipine left hand drive bro.. Asean..
As long the cars are built here in Malaysia. For export to global market 193 countries, doesnt matter its right hand drive, left hand drive or No hand drive car.
Tens of thousands jobs created and gigantic multiplier effect for our nation economy. Dont let our kampung mindset limit potential and opportunity to more contracts.
How does tens of thousands of more jobs for foreign workers help to unleash our potential and opportunity and what they are doing currently?
As is vietnam which is also left hand drive
Just rebadge/ckd BYD. End of story.
Malaysian don’t need 3rd national car.
When will the Gov listen?
Malaysia Baru, Tak De Harapan
Malaysian don’t need P1 & P2 yet most on the roads are them. Why would it be different? Besides, P3 may provide electric cars where P1 is still unable to produce today.
Expensive electric car whose owners cannot afford to replace the batteries? Yeah I can see that flooding the roads and taking over from P1 & P2. *slow clap*
Deswai P3 is here to provide cheaper alternative of electric cars.
It no way to be cheaper becoz the battery is expensip.
try reducing excise duty for non-national car (remove protection for P1 & P2), see which cars become majority on the road.
While why do we need P3 to launch hybrid powertrain when we already have so many brand with hybrid and even full EV already in malaysia?
Unless they can produce hybrid and sell it to us for rm30-50k (Saga-Myvi range)
So right bro. You wouldnt want to be Nokia in this age of smartphone. this oso consistent with our National Blue Ocean Strategy ( NBOS)
Bodoh tu simpan sikit.
Without NAP, we won’t drive P1 and P2. You will drive P1 Iriz or P2 Myvi when a VW Polo or Mini is priced at RM55K?
Since we have P1 and P2, improve them! Why create a 3rd one?
So…Bodoh tu simpan sikit
Even without NAP, can you afford the cheapest electric car in Malaysia? P3 is to fill that gap. You think people create company without purpose?
Use your brain sikit before bashing.
Madani made up those criterias to suit Daihatsu.
With Daihatsu technology for the third national car company, Proton will be game over since Proton is using unproven China technology. Japanese technology have been proven and trustable
Japanese technology have been proven and trustable because it’s ancient and outdated. Japan should go back to using Abacus follow your logic. It’s proven and trustable for 5000 years.
Learning Abacus is better than learning Calligraphy. At least using Abacus helps with Arithmetic.
Japanese tech is ancient? Are you kidding? They have techs you never seen here yet.
Enlighten us what new techs do they have that the Europeans is not using already?
I said here, not European. One example is their battery tech. Do you know it was Japanese that invented the world’s first dry cell battery? Now they even invented water powered battery! Which can be used in emergencies like floods or earthquakes. This is only one example, there are lots more. So bashers should use their ‘logical’ brain before bashing, it only shows their stupidity and ‘katak bawah tempurung’ mentality.
They may have invented but were they will to share it? Heck no! Stingy as crap! Look at them Europeans, open with anything they invented and willing to share what they know. Japanese will want to milk their technology until kingdom come. Go fly a Japanese kite you fanboy!
EU uber alles. Jap can sniff my skids
You asked and now said they are stingy? Better than your people’s syok sendiri attitude, can’t invent but only can bash. Go fly your local kite.
How do anyone know if inventions are made? Because it is shared. If some remained stingy so do anyone know they invented anything? Germans have a proverb; if a tree fell in a forest with nobody around, does it make a sound? The same, nobody knows if Japan invented anything because nobody knows anything about it. So stop blaming Germans for flying kites, they had been flying gliders while you still fly paper planes.
I am so amazed with people that say statements but do not understand what his statement means. Your fact checking must be from 30 years ago
How can Geely be using unproven technology? how do you measure that? If you comparing that. Please name me one latest Japanese Technological
The real 6 main criteria:
1) Can it fly?
2) Can it make use of our plentiful bamboo?
3) Does it have a crony attached?
4) Can it make my cronies richer?
5) Can it rebadge an existing car?
6) How much money will it rob the rakyat?
Definition of ‘Next-Gen’ vehicle to be known by 2022. GE15 by 2023 with new Govt takeover. Implementation by 2025.
New Govt then will have ‘3rd National Car’ be disbanded by ‘Govt owned company’ AND/OR be opened for takeover by private company..!
Now i’m confused whether Proton is our national car or not.
It’s not. It is now just a distributor for Geely
Sendiri tanya sendiri jawab pulak!
Im not john la bodo
Siapa makan cili dia terasa pedas. Kenapamu terasa pedas?
persona, saga, iriz, preve, exora = proton developed platforms running malaysian engines. x70= geely model rebadged as proton … and this means geely distributor? need to get your maths checked man.
Perodua troll and failed logic, berpisah tiada.
Madani says must be ‘privately funded’ with no Gov money but Proton was funded with Gov money. So is Proton our national car?
Proton will no longer run on Proton developed engines in the future, they cannot just cut the production of old Proton cars just because Geely took over, it will take around 5 years to stop existing proton production so they can focus on Geely Rebadge models fully.
Just like p2 is distributor for Daihatsu.
Lets stay on topic and keep cool heads please ?
No need for yet another thread full of crap to sift through.
To minimize market share cannibalization, our national car industry must be segmented to serve different customer class. Eg. P1 premium, P2 exec and P3 basic.
1st criteria already hancus…..
6 criteria:
-gov will inject the fund(soon)
-make crony rich
-same as above
-same as above
-same as above
-same as above
most important criteria IS NOT USING RAKYAT MONIES!
rakyat already tired of Gov using Rakyat Monies(aka grants) to make Proton floats since 1981, yet household debt from normal rakyat are increasing from year to year….
Add one more criteria…
7) I help you, you help me (cari makan)
Mahathir lastly using najib’s quote..
What? “You would have to jail me before your cronies & sons continue to prey over Malaysia once again”?
Don’t worry, your time will be soon along with your other cronies.
one man’s crony is another man’s entrepreneur. in PH Mesia, everything is halal as long pay money.
aiks, this fella switch job again ka
7th is rakyat money
Wait 6 more months and this DreamEdge CEO will be upgraded to become a Datuk and few more years down the road, a Datuk Seri.
adoi..u tengok lia punya muka
eh, my roti canai when you make as national roti canai? i want speciel status
Yes please support Malaysia local vendor and Malaysia worker skill development. Many of P1, P2 engineers will update their CV because now they will have the 3rd option.
I’m confused.
Can someone enlighten me on what Madani’s contribution thus far to our automotive industry?
He revived our “auto” (read: crony) industry by convincing his members to vote for PH.
the 7th hidden criteria. it’s who you know, not what you know.
Proton is a national car because it has eaten so much taxpayers’ money and wasted taxpayers’ time servicing and repairing their cars.
Tun Madhatter is obsessed with cars, so wants to set up more and more car companies and waste more taxpayer money. Mark my words, sooner or later, Perotiga will need a bailout of sorts – either soft loans or grants or tax privileges or all of the above.
In the election campaign, he said he wants to be given a chance to correct his past errors. However now, it appears that not only has he not fixed the old errors, he is committing more errors of the same kind. Pakatan Harapan has become Putus Harapan. So sad!
Putus Harapan n Pakatan Halangan
there is this saying:” Can’t teach old horse new tricks.”
New saying: “You can trick a new pony with old tricks”. Just like what Madey did.
Sounds like a bloody crony job.
Unbelievable sound like trump… Make malaysia great again.
Guess its not easy to be national car with the constraints like
– the company’s supply chain must be 75% Malaysian, minimum,”
– Manpower. We only allow 2% foreign manpower, 98% must be Malaysian,”
No good for the company development and cost control.
UNBELIEVABLE. Hopefully this is FAKE NEWs from Paultan.