Full electric vehicles (EVs) are starting to emerge in the local automotive scene, offering buyers the chance to get to grips with the nascent technology. In the past year, we’ve seen the arrival of the second-generation Nissan Leaf and BMW i3s, and the MINI Cooper SE just made its debut earlier this week, with the MG ZS EV and Porsche Taycan also slated to be introduced before the year is out. These join the likes of the first-gen Renault Zoe, first-gen Leaf and grey import Teslas as all-electric offerings available here.
Granted, that’s not a lot as yet, but it is a sign of where the future lies. The question of adoption is another matter entirely. While many like the technology, there’s plenty of hesitancy when it comes to embracing EVs. The cost is one thing, of course – to expect an EV at entry-level prices is still a distance away, but the Leaf is competitively priced, and the upcoming MG is expected to be a cheaper proposition, closer to the RM150k mark, so we hear. And, things will continue to become cheaper.
The worry about battery life isn’t and shouldn’t be a concern, not if you’re the initial buyer at least. Warranties for these high-voltage units usually run into eight years (100,000 km for the BMW/MINI and 160,000 km for the Nissan), more than ample to cover an average ownership journey.
Which leaves range anxiety and a lack of charging infrastructure as the primary concern. For this one, it’s a chicken and egg situation. You don’t want to buy an EV until there’s a better public charging network, while the government is also not convinced to expand the charging network before there are more EVs on the road.
The question is, do you need to wait for a better public charging network before considering an electric car in Malaysia? Is having public chargers even relevant to an EV user?
Not really.
Most modern EVs have a good range, with over 200 km at least. The just-launched MINI Cooper SE has a quoted range of 234 km, while the Leaf offers 311 km (on a NEDC cycle). The MG ZS has a quoted operating range of 335 km (again, NEDC cycle) per full charge.
As EVs sold here officially are meant to be daily city cars anyway, that’s certainly enough for a few days of use, and with owners likely to have a wallbox charger installed at home, it’s a simple matter of plugging it in every few days – or every night when the car is parked idle, if you’re anxious about it – to keep things moving.
If you do the latter, overnight charging solves any concern. With the Leaf, the supplied single-phase home wallbox charger – which delivers 6.6 kW of single-phase AC charging power – fully charges the car in around seven hours. The MG, meanwhile, can be charged with the MG Home Charger (again, at an AC rate of 6.6 kW) to full in around 6.5 hours.
The MINI (and BMW) 11 kW three-phase wallbox does things in even quicker fashion – it takes 3.5 hours to fully charge the Cooper SE (2.5 hours from 0-80%), or 4.2 hours through a 7.4 kW single-phase wallbox. More importantly, dedicated home chargers are not just the domain of landed properties, because quite a few apartments (and most new ones) can install personal chargers at your own parking lot.
As for public charging, the thing is, EV owners will likely not use public chargers at all, other than to get privileged parking spots. Most public chargers are slow 3.7 kW chargers anyway, way too slow for full EVs. For example, take the Leaf and its 40 kW battery. For every hour of charging with a 3.7 kW public charger, you’ll only get around 25 km of range, which is hardly worth it, unless you’re really desperate to juice up the car.
The point is, slow public chargers (and most in Malaysia currently are) are really not viable to be used to charge full EVs. They’re more for PHEVs with much smaller batteries, and even for those, the number of PHEVs – and invariable hogging – means that home charging is a more attractive option if the idea is to use electrification to drive the car as much as possible.
Public chargers should only be a concern for interstate travel. The growing emergence of DC fast charging stations, which can top up the battery in rapid fashion, will eventually address that issue. With DC fast charging, something like the MG can be charged to 80% in just 30 minutes, and via its CHAdeMO port, the Leaf can be fully charged in about an hour.
We hear that expansion of that infrastructure on the North South highway is coming along to offer seamless travel up and down the western part of the Peninsular, so that’s a definite plus.
So, you shouldn’t worry about the lack of public chargers in Malaysia if you’re considering an EV, especially so for urban use. Don’t let that put you off. Chances are, you won’t need it anyway.
I’m interested in MINI Cooper SE electric car, but must guaranteed Future Value 180k after 5yrs
The problem here is that we have incompetent people running the show. MAI and MITI told us the Government is encouraging the rakyat to buy EV cars 20 years. So many people bought Hybrid and EV cars then.
Even Honda and Toyota invested billions to set up CKD plants in Malaysia to CKD Hybrid and EV cars in Malaysia.
What happened finally? All masuk longkang. All those who bought Hybrid and EV cars saw their EV cars depreciate to kacang puteh levels.
Then Government also flip flop. One day give Hybrid and EV tax incentives and another day, drop that incentive and another day, bring it back
The rakyat is confused. To make it worse, the battery for EV adn Hybrid was shocker levels at RM150,000
The famous Mercedes E300 Bluetec Hybrid owner that complained about the RM150,000 battery replacement sent shockwaves to the whole EV community.
The next day, Mercedes Malaysia dropped the price to RM70k for the battery.
The question we are asking is this…. why isn’t the Government controlling the car manufacturers prices when we can see their prices and go up and down in one day?
There is no stability. We as the rakyat are so frightened to buy Hybrid or EV because of parts prices. The Government needs to control the prices of parts.
Already EV and Hybrid buyers see their RV falling so much because of this instability in parts prices, we hope the Government can employ more competent people to start the move towards EV and Hybrid.
After all, the whole world is moving towards EV. Europe will be fully EV by 2035. That is not long more its only 15 years more.
It is high time Malaysia gets serious about setting up infrastructure to facilitate the move towards cleaner energy
Betui Dato!! How can we rely the the Government when they incompetent people running the show again. Tukar!
When is paultan every going to get rid of this troll stealing people’s names?
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I blame this on NAP2020. Guess who made that. Yes I blame them for it.
We need more people from other countries to teach us how to implement EV implementation. Otherwise, we cannot do it
The main reason for the very bad resale value is the very high costs to replace the battery.If they can drop the battery price significantly, then maintaining used EV & hybrid cars will become more affordable.Maintenance is not an issue if the car is still under warranty.EV are very simple cars, nothing much to maintain but can be very costly to repair if there’s any major problem.
“Europe will be fully EV by 2035.”
Currently there are no laws that EU will be fully electric by 2035. It’s a myth.
Europe full of rich countries. They can afford EV cars and even battery replacement.
Well said. The entitlement mentality has led to a generation that cannot plan well
Demanding for cheap EV cars is an entitlement itself. Look in the mirror first.
I buy an electric car, I wanna use all of it (fast charging infrastructure and 600+ km range).
You guys simply don’t know how far some offices are from someone’s respective homes. Most friends I know travel more than 100 km each way every day. Hence, 200+ km “quoted” range simple not enough for us (even with deep pockets like me).
Thus, not just infrastructure but the battery tech itself is not mature enough in Malaysia (and also worldwide). Wait till Galium Nitrate battery packs becomes mainstream (lightning fast charging and a thousand mile range). This is just my 2 cents. :D
you wrote all of that just to say you have deep pockets right hahahah
Said is easier then done. Lol
only i3 & Mini E benefit from 11kW charger.
while for 22kW charger, EVs like Zoe, Teslas and Taycan would vendor from it.
this is simply because of the bigger (11kW & 22kW) on board chargers (OBC) equipped on those cars.
the more popular EVs like Leaf charging time is limited by their small 6.6kW OBC. it won’t charge any faster with 11kW or 22kW charging point facilities.
in my opinion, there is not enough number of Tesla, Zoe or i3 on our Malaysian road today to justify the investment for fast charging facilities. it’s chicken and egg situation all over again.
the more popular PHEVs are only equipped 3.7kW, they couldn’t even charge a second faster even if the facilities offer a 6.6kW charger. and both EVs and PHEVs compete for the already scarce charging bays. waiting a slower car to charge sure adds up to the ‘total charging’ time.
worse when a phev lazy to look for parking in sunway decided to use the ABB combo charger in sunway… park there for hours depriving Battery EV from DC charger
IMHO yes they need to expand their network nationwide. Malaysians like to spend their time in malls so more charging stations are needed and there has to be active enforcement to clamp owner vehicles who park there beyond their allocated charging time. This also applies to other charging points within the city too.
Furthermore in Selangor and KL, most of us live in apartments and condos and many of the JMBs of the said properties are not willing to invest in charging stations so you can pretty much leave the vast majority of the buyers who live in high rise units out in purchasing an EV.
All in all the government has to play a role in this. Not only do they need to give incentives for people to buy into EVs but they also need to look in expanding the charging network. Maybe with more charging points available, car manufacturers may just be able to attract more buyers from high rise units including myself.
TNB expanded into EV charging stations, Pay-per-hour and parking charges. Syukur TNB sapot local EV, ganti Petrol stesen bloodsuckers..
“The growing emergence of DC fast charging stations”
Grow finish first then only talk about how to resolve range anxiety issues with potential buyers. As it is right now, with no way to charge, pipu will scared to get stranded when their car ran out of juice.
You actually got a point, if a petrol car got stranded, they can simply call someone to bring refuel. While EV, goodluck finding a powerbank large enough to charge it or, both in terms of capacity and transferability.
I notice in UK, we can subscribe to a service where a van will come to charge the battery if we’re caught stranded. Im sure the service will be available here once the market is there.
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That is purely marketing gimmick. Ask any hybrid owner from insight to civic and you will know the real experience answer rather than in the brochure
What’s the electricity bill of charging these EV vs paying for petrol?
Depends on whether you use solar or not
A 200kw solar charger? You know how many football fields of solar cells you would need for that?
Not even an aircon can be powered by solar (otherwise everybody would do it). How to power a car with solar?
About 90% cheaper than petrol equivalent for the same mileage distance.
I doubt that. Show me your calculation.
I want to see calculations too. For my own personal situation, electric car running cost is equivalent to approx rm1.5/L for petrol, so it’s just small savings for me.
Guestimated with average distance per kW for average EV, my current car, my driving style and my house electric use tariff.
Another way is tnb can provide cheaper off peak electricity for ev or subsidies for solar panels
TNB will never do that. Every year they make billions in clean profit and yet, they never reduce 1 sen for the rakyat.
This is the problem with TNB being a GLC. Our Government cannot ask their ownself to reduce 1 sen also for the rakyat because it is the Government that will lose money.
What do you mean by the Government cannot reduce 1sen? Under PERIHATIN package, the Government is subsidising FOR EVERY USER OF ELECTRICITY. Or perhaps in your cave you don’t get electricity billing?
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I hope.government can promote the use of solar energy which is abundance in Malaysia
yes we have abundant sunlight, but solar is just like at best 27% efficient, going to need massive tracts of land to clear to make solar farms. clearing forests/ jungle for solar power?
A small 3kw charger would require 198 square feet unshaded space.
Do you have a paddy field usable for a solar system?
U need up to 8 solar panel…
No point to wait better EV charge infra. Wait for improved and matured battery tech.
In China, they already have battery swapping services for electric cars. Saves time. More efficient. Source: Youtube
Don’t need so much charging station.
Just sell Tesla3 USD40k/RM160k
Same spec and same features, 0-60mph 5.6s, 400km battery, advanced connected HUD,
8 years battery free replacement warranty.
Then laku²
Our country is quite big and we are travelling a lot relying on our private vehicle. Not to mentioned the heavy and unpredictable traffic that can drain off the electricity pretty fast. With the high Tax and low income, not many people can afford to have more than a vehicle for spare usage. Therefore it is essential to have more, effective and convenient changing facilities for EV.
I strongly urge government to come out with more initiative and effort to promote the solar energy. It would be very beneficial if everyone, including the private residential can utilize the advantages of the renewable energy which is not only great for economy and efficiency, but also for the environment!
more concerned on the quality of european electrics
ii don’t really care about charging infra as long as it works with home power outlets. i can plan my journey or commutes easy enough. waiting for gomen this days is hopeless, busy with politics 24×7. just when i thought i put it right at the ballot box, they easily took off then turn back to the old corrupted socalled leaders.
i digress but the price of these vehicles are just ridiculous, which goes back to gomen policy also with taxes and what not, so it is still a hopeless dream…i already probably accept the fact that this is luxury item than a necessity regardless of its benefits to the environmental cautiousness..
Take a look at the pictures above. Do they look like your normal 3pin plug connector from your electric outlet? Infra is needed as you don’t simply plug EV cars into the electric grid.
ev cars sucks, modern green fuel efficient ICE cars still the best
Waiting for government incentive for EV, charging machines and associated project cost especially foe interiors and places with lack of “traffic”.
Actually someone asked the same question I’ve always wanted to – would the electricity cost of running an electric car here in Malaysia outweigh actual petrol costs?
Additionally, range is quoted in kilometres, but what about traffic jams? I’d assume that these still consume some power when stuck stationary? Would be pretty funny (not in a good way) if one gets caught in a morning ‘rush hour accident caused’ jam for hours and then it starts to pour during the trip back!
Keta letrik, terbang, selam etc. No need. Total waste of money. All udang sebalik mee.
Fossil fuel depleted? Pollution? Green house effect etc…
The doomsday will come (Don’t care whether year 2100 or 2500). Why bother the inevitable?
YOLO
Pedal to the metal. Konvoi naik genting, jomm!
Covid19 fight need more frontliner,
yolo, go help
Electricity is much more expensive in Malaysia than petrol: 1 liter of petrol has 8,4 kWh. 8,4kwh electricity from TN costs RM4.9
So what is the point for a Malaysian to switch to electricity? To pay RM4.9 instead of RM1.72 for the same kwh?
spot on. for now ev is just for exclusive fews to make a statement and some serious environmental concious people to display Mother love
China not first. Europe already doing it since 10 years ago. Come on, widened your sources of reading material.
I could drive an EV for 90% of my journeys. I could also drive a single seater for 90% of my journeys. The issue is that when I want to go off road or carry bulky items, a single seater EV won’t cut it. So I need a pick up truck and an EV. Or I could just buy a pick up truck, forget about the EV and save 200k.
My opinion is there has few factor that govt and car company should take some action. First is the battery price should drop maybe around 20K-30K for 12kwh battery much lower price are welcome… the spare part of the car also should be access to others workshop so that the car owner can repair the car at others place rather than the car companies that monopoly the services so the price can became more lower others part of hybrid or electric car also should be lower around 20% -30% more so it will attract more people as the maintenance price is drop this also need govt hand. For the govt the should put more fast 22Kwh or more charging station around the country maybe around 1000-1500 more especially at highway. Govt should bring more hybrid and EV tech to the nation so the attraction for EV and Hybrid market will increase rapidly along with tax cut. Police and govt car should using this type of car to promt the tech and show the people how reliable this tech. Yeah this is my opinion and i feel it not gonna happen :P
How many condos and apartments have or are working to provide facilities to charge? EV is almost a no-go for high rise dwellers.
PHEV and EV as a technology is a good progression. However, technology alone is not enough to deliver real values as touted. In the operational and daily matters, charging station, range of EV, reliability and availability of charging stations, second hand values after 5-7 years, cost of maintenance(being part of overall cost of ownership) etc are still not clear and in the doldrums.
As a govt, we need to decide the policy for a good time period to give certainty to the users and market.
At the end its the money that matters. We have one of the most expensive housing, car and financing scheme in the world. No amount of technology can help our affordability.
The cost of slow charging system to fast charging system ranging from 4 to 5 figure…
Malaysia should go for REEV and hydrogen vehicles instead.
whatever the freaking policy the government will implement in this so called ev hybrid sector, the bottom line is majority of malaysian people still cant afford it.
1) replacing the battery are expensive
2) a dedicated parking spot for ev charging which im pretty sure are scarce in urban area, if exist sure lain harga parking, lain harga charging.
3) ownership value, which is expensive compared to conventional cars.
It’s not about charging place. The price is ridiculous
Charging network is a pre-requisite for EV or PHEV adoption. Just imagine driving a petrol powered vehicle but the nearest petrol station is probably 50km away. That does not work. For the whole scheme to work, government plays a major role in this. I believe that our government does not want push EV or PHEV main stream because of the petroleum business we have. Currently the major petroleum consumption is vehicle. Replacing traditional vehicle with EV or even PHEV will have impact to the petroleum industry and that is what our government trying to protect. However, they fail to realize that even with EV and PHEV, there are other usage of petroleum like LPG, kerosene, plastic and etc.
If public chargers are not gonna cut it, and we live in a condo… how does that work? Can’t charge la then.
It depends on your condo but I have a charger installed in my condo lot. You might have to ask your management about that
It depends on your situation. I have been dailying an EV for less than a year now and I have not had a single instance where I needed to charge in public. Longest regular journey is between Penang and KL which as long as my car has the capacity to then it wouldn’t be a problem. Sure it would be nice to have more chargers in R&Rs but thankfully I have 22kW chargers installed in my houses both side so no worries on my side.
Hello from the future!
More DC chargers are already online and more to come!
EV FTW!