Next-gen Proton Saga, Persona to be developed in new R&D centre in Hangzhou – to include NEV hybrids too!

Next-gen Proton Saga, Persona to be developed in new R&D centre in Hangzhou – to include NEV hybrids too!

Next-generation Proton Saga rendered by Theophilus Chin

At the Proton Chinese New Year media appreciation dinner today, CEO Li Chunrong shared a few updates regarding the national carmaker’s future plans. Notably, these included a surprising announcement concerning its homegrown models, reinforcing the notion that its lineup won’t be entirely replaced by Geely-based models.

Li confirmed that Proton will be setting up a new R&D centre in Hangzhou, China specifically for the development of its homegrown models, currently consisting of the Saga, Persona and Iriz. This presumably means that it will benefit from closer cooperation with Geely, which is also based in Hangzhou.

As yet, it’s unclear if the new models will be a development of the current cars or be based on Geely’s platforms – like the B-segment Modular Platform (BMA) that underpins the X50 and S70.

Next-gen Proton Saga, Persona to be developed in new R&D centre in Hangzhou – to include NEV hybrids too!

Whichever route Proton takes, we can safety assume these cars won’t simply be rebadged versions of existing Geely models and will have considerably greater local input. Also unclear is the timeline for the introduction of these new homegrown cars, which has been intentionally left open for debate.

It’s also been confirmed that Proton will be introducing a New Energy Vehicle (NEV, think hybrid or electric vehicle) based not on a Geely platform, but on the Saga/Persona/Iriz platform. This will likely be a mild hybrid model that uses the 1.5 litre turbocharged three-cylinder engine and 48-volt belt starter-generator (BSG) from the X90.

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After trying to pursue a career in product design, Jonathan Lee decided to make the sideways jump into the world of car journalism instead. He therefore appreciates the aesthetic appeal of a car, but for him, the driving experience is still second to none.

 

Comments

  • Peppa on Feb 20, 2024 at 10:08 pm

    Say goodbye to ‘Buatan Malaysia’ then. Cars like Saga(BLM and onward), Persona, Iriz, Exora, Preve and Suprima are truly Malaysian made regardless of people’s perceptions. The new Saga is a great first car.

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    • anton on Feb 21, 2024 at 5:28 pm

      Not sure whats the agreement back then. If just rebadge and production, there is no point to make a deal with Geely. Better sell proton to Perodua, at least Toyota still allow them to do RND work.

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    • Celup King on Feb 21, 2024 at 5:45 pm

      S70 had more local engineering in it than Myvi, Aruz, Ativa, Axia put together. Just think about it.

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      • John Gagal on Feb 22, 2024 at 10:40 am

        Copy paste Subaru grill design only. Pathetic.

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      • Current gen myvi is local r&d tho…

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      • Peppa on Mar 01, 2024 at 6:16 am

        Current Myvi and Bezza were designed and engineered by Malaysians. Ativa and Alza were developed with Malaysian engineers involved. S70 original geely variant however was made long before Proton get hands on it. Just think harder about it. You pLoton fanboys are pathetic as hell

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  • Daim-ler on Feb 20, 2024 at 10:10 pm

    What is so national car about it?

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    • Raja Celup on Feb 21, 2024 at 11:03 am

      Some fools still believe it. Really mind blown for the sheer ignorance & gullibility!

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    • Anonymous on Feb 21, 2024 at 12:45 pm

      We should just forget about the title “national car”. A car maker shouldn’t be tied to a nationalist ideal. It’s bad for growth and has no focus. Making cars is a business and technological venture, and a very expensive one. Proton should have never been a “national” car maker. It should have been a passion project of an individual, be it a bussinessman or an auto enthusiast who just wants to tap in on a good business opportunity. If you expect it to be a national car maker then you have to accept that it will be linked to the government and will be influenced by all its interests.

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      • seitha on Feb 21, 2024 at 3:27 pm

        Its the commission… mahatahi gets commision on every proton sold.

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      • Anonymous2 on Feb 22, 2024 at 11:04 pm

        Why should forget “national car”? Why can’t we grow and focus with nationalist ideal? All they need to do is to find their own identity and really having their own r&d, klau susah sangat hire la someone from those already successful car manufacturer like what china & korean car company did but it still has their national identity. Then our government must pushed them to produce not to keep asking for support, appa raaa

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  • Mudahlupa Wuhan on Feb 20, 2024 at 10:12 pm

    Eventually will move the entire production to the mainland, do ckd in Pekan. Village idiots would then still proudly drive & claim as local car lol!

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    • Jangan Lupa Endia sokong Yahudi on Feb 21, 2024 at 2:40 pm

      Nah, seems the other way rtound. More mainland investment in Malaysia and we love it. More jobs

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  • Frankc on Feb 20, 2024 at 11:12 pm

    Still mild hybrid. Do geely hv “larger” hybrid at least since our transition away from fossil fuels will be gradual transition thru hybrid models.
    Mild hybrid wont bring proton any further in terms of fuel efficiency achievement. We know full hybrid performs better than mild hybrid.
    Since saga, iriz and personal are b segments, it is more like the prius-c size which hv been on hybrid for almost a decade. Time step up

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  • John Doe on Feb 20, 2024 at 11:31 pm

    About time, saga chassis is more than 15 years old already

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  • Where is john and tokmoh on Feb 20, 2024 at 11:52 pm

    Last time, john, tokmoh and other fanboys kept saying that Proton will still develop in-house for certain models. But now it seems that it isnt the case

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    • Albert Yong on Feb 21, 2024 at 2:14 pm

      john aka tokmoh, basherlogic, redpilled etc always talk a lot

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  • Bob Mal on Feb 21, 2024 at 8:14 am

    Well sadly the 1.5 3Cyl TGDi engine is no longer being listed in the Aurobay (Geely + Volvo powertrain) and Geely is also slowly phasing out this engine as can be seen that the new x90 / Okavango has been replaced by 2.0L 4Cyl TGDi Drive-E Volvo engine as well as the new X70/Atlas with the new CMA-Platform also comes with the same engine (both without any Hybrid assistance) and finally the X50 has also been replaced with the new 1.5L 4Cyl TGDi engine in most Markets apart from Proton Malaysia and Geely Philippines.

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  • opmanmy on Feb 21, 2024 at 8:15 am

    Meeeeh. Local R&D…no more home grown talent meh?!m What a disappointment of our national pride. Next buy will consider either support P2 or T/H/N. Bye Bye P1.

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  • jebon on Feb 21, 2024 at 8:22 am

    why R&D in china..

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    • Bigboytoy on Feb 21, 2024 at 11:45 pm

      Proton and DRB-Hicom don’t have the capabilities to do R&D in Malaysia. They never- never do real R&D locally. Most cars designed previously are outsourced overseas.

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  • WC Ong on Feb 21, 2024 at 8:29 am

    don’t put too high hopes in proton. pandai pusing. at first say aerokit for early bird. now everyone get aerokit as long book before april. Those FS-X early birds look like clown now hahaha

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  • Fadzli on Feb 21, 2024 at 8:33 am

    Hard to believe it can still be called a national car anymore

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    • Kea Was on Feb 21, 2024 at 11:43 am

      Well guess as long as it can continually employ even more locals and continue to sustain these vendors cronies you can call it what you like but the elites are sure to support.

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  • Ben Yap on Feb 21, 2024 at 8:34 am

    i don’t understand why the persona and Iriz rear panel to the rear wheel arch has to be so wide. it makes the wheels look small and the car disproportionate.

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  • aaaaa on Feb 21, 2024 at 8:57 am

    so after this proton would have lost the last traces of its malaysian-ness? I thought partnerships like this are meant to bring technology and expertise IN not bring it OUT!

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    • John Gagal on Feb 21, 2024 at 10:33 am

      Kesian the end of Proton heart & soul. When given chance and pumped RM billions, they blew it up with suspect quality cars and fugly unimaginative car designs. Perfect recipe for utter failure. Best of all Chief designer not kicked out taking the blame but relegated into front grille design.

      At least local engineers can get cleaner jobs in Singapore RM5.00 SGD1 soon.

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  • albag on Feb 21, 2024 at 9:13 am

    so it’s gonna be DESIGNED IN CHINA, MADE IN MALAYSIA

    there goes our national car

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  • mechanicnextdoor on Feb 21, 2024 at 9:40 am

    “developed”

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  • @NotBruceWayne on Feb 21, 2024 at 10:14 am

    Just don’t rebadge them Geometry boxes pls. They’re fugly!

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  • AkooIm on Feb 21, 2024 at 10:43 am

    Well… that’s one way to spin ‘rebadging’…
    Ploton should use new tagline “Jenama Malaysia, China yang Punya”…

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  • Betrayed by Bass Tak Malu on Feb 21, 2024 at 12:00 pm

    Say day for Proton and Nation after Proton was betrayed by our leaders and sold to Geely, Proton is just an assembler. No real RnD to develop new chasis, engine, platform. The old Saga, Exora, Persona, were designed by Proton, still running on the road, to last many years to come, a testament of local engineers and technicians capabilities.

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  • Just Admit IT on Feb 21, 2024 at 12:09 pm

    All you guys are just Malaysians MALAP not capable of anything

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  • Veneno on Feb 21, 2024 at 1:54 pm

    Lol, why not here? What’s the use of Proton’s own R&D centre here when every model is either rebadged from Geely and developed in China. When even budget models will be developed in China, we cannot expect Proton’s more luxurious model will be developed here, all gonna go to China. I’m not gonna be surprised if the production also move to China.

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  • seitha on Feb 21, 2024 at 3:30 pm

    what a dumb move…so what are our deigners going to do??

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  • 4GR-FSE on Feb 21, 2024 at 3:32 pm

    So called FDI, technology transfer and upskilling local talent?
    It has totally failed the initial idea of Geely being a technology partner.. It seems they are just interested in milking from the Malaysia market..

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  • adv driver disturbance sys 3.0 on Feb 21, 2024 at 5:20 pm

    Whatever lah, janji cheap, no more timing belt campro, punch cvt which required expensive repair after certain high mileages.

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  • hazri on Feb 21, 2024 at 7:27 pm

    what do you expect. in the end they will take it all. no more made in malaysian by malaysian. but poton geli fanbois will say, its ok, volvo also like that.

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    • Robins on Mar 14, 2024 at 2:11 pm

      Yeah, it is sad. Sad too, that Proton’s Vendor association itself is saying that even they are being displaced by vendors from China. The whole effort of building a car industry is now in tatters.

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  • P owner on Feb 21, 2024 at 11:46 pm

    Will they redesign the logo again ?

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  • random guy on Feb 21, 2024 at 11:59 pm

    I believe some of you guys in this comments section is Chinese right, why you kutuk itu China. I’m so weird, that China is your susur galur your descendants from there right, why you wanna bash you descendants I’m so weird at all

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    • Improve ur english on Feb 22, 2024 at 10:47 am

      China is CCP commie land, Malaysian Chinese culture is different and authentic. Saying this as a Singaporean Malay

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    • Robins on Mar 14, 2024 at 2:13 pm

      Malaysian Chinese are Malaysians. I wonder what is motive of this jibe.

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  • Da Vinci on Feb 22, 2024 at 7:58 am

    Spare parts will be an issue with cars developed in China. Obviously they will use Chinese vendors to supply the main components. If we are lucky, maybe the tires, batteries, paints, and a few other cheap components will be supplied locally. Proton is already facing spare parts issue with its current Chinese based models

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  • Fake national car on Feb 22, 2024 at 9:02 pm

    Then Malaysian government should remove the national car tax advantages enjoyed by proton as it is no longer a national car. Proton must compete fairly with other automakers.

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  • If i’m not wrong proton said Iriz, persona and saga will be homegrown. Which means RnD in Malaysia, produced in Malaysia and made in Malaysia.

    Looks like proton became lazy and just want to goyang kaki or geely never trust proton in the first place so they want to built their own to replace their dated A and B segment Cars in China. I bet they will still use proton team to make ride and hadling good but the rest will be geely own RnD.

    At this point, proton and perodua shouldn’t be called national carmaker and let them fight against foreign brand fair and square

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  • Tak kisah on Feb 23, 2024 at 7:46 am

    Ada aku kisah?

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