New Honda City i-VTEC fully undisguised exterior and interior revealed!
UPDATE: 2009 Honda City: in-depth details and specifications. Click the linked text to find out you need to know about the upcoming new Honda City in Malaysia.
It’s confirmed - the car we’ve been seeing in China and India is indeed the new Honda City. Reader xstan pointed out this flickr page with photos of the new Honda City - fully uncovered including photos of the interior!
It’s not known at the moment which country these photos come from. As expected, the interior is no longer based on the one in the Honda Jazz but instead uses a design that is perhaps cheaper to cast and manufacture.
Look after the jump for full images and details!
The front is definitely inspired by the likes of the European Honda Civic and the Honda FCX Clarity. The headlamps feature reflector lense instead of the more expensive projector type, which is expected at this price range.
This new alloy wheel design has been seen on the previous rendering. It may differ from country to country. This shot of the rear wheel shows the use of disc brakes on the rear.
Another shot of the grille, headlamps and the 4 cylinder SOHC i-VTEC engine in the background.
A light interior. Some markets may get a dark interior, hopefully. Our current City i-DSI and VTEC come with either a dark interior for the VTEC or a light interior for the i-DSI.
The 4-cylinder i-VTEC engine is expected to be the 120 PS 1.5 liter unit from the newly launched Jazz.
A clean and simple interior featuring integrated audio and the new design Honda steering wheel.
The meter illumination at night. Notice the paddle shifts behind the steering spokes.
August 23, 2008 @ 1:37 pm
Better than DUGONG VIOS
August 23, 2008 @ 1:40 pm
way better than the dugong!!
August 23, 2008 @ 1:40 pm
Totally agree with IsaacVky.
August 23, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
rim design.. yucks..
August 23, 2008 @ 1:44 pm
Dudong is doomed………….
August 23, 2008 @ 1:46 pm
the nose is very american. nice!
August 23, 2008 @ 1:50 pm
nice and clean interior, futuristic and awesome front, but the back is like kena langgar……
definitely looks better than vios….
August 23, 2008 @ 1:51 pm
Interior
The dashboard design reminds me of the previous generation of the Civic (the aircon vents). Looks boring and uninspiring. The only interesting thing is the sporty meter cluster with chrome dials and red illumination.
Exterior
100 times better than the Vios Dugong. Hope to see a clearer side profile. The front & butt looks nice, Civic-inspired.
August 23, 2008 @ 1:52 pm
the interior is a bit shiny, nothing like the new jazz, but that’s expected…at least it looks better although can’t really say until we see it for real
August 23, 2008 @ 1:53 pm
somehow the front reminds me of the Transformers, specifically Optimus…. really like this car, if having abit of mixed feeling about the tail-lights.
August 23, 2008 @ 2:02 pm
Agreed with all the commentors. It is so much better than the latest vios in terms of its looks, power, features and lots more! This new Honda city has 5 speed auto with paddle shift! I just Love it! Really love the front looks especially when the emergency signal turned on! Hope that the paddle shift will be available in the new city when it came to Malaysia and the price not exceed RM90K and the rims to be changed to the better looking type( as the one shown in the photo looks pretty ugly) This car is definitely my taste! I meant in a budget of around RM90K brand new car.
August 23, 2008 @ 2:04 pm
I’m going to hit that… really looking forward to this… hahaha
August 23, 2008 @ 2:29 pm
The car is nice. Hopefully Honda Malaysia will wisely make the price quite nice too.
August 23, 2008 @ 2:39 pm
This new City is damn nice! I like the ‘aggressive’ look of the front. (way better than the current one)
Only if I can afford it…
August 23, 2008 @ 2:39 pm
For me Honda is overpriced on every models.
This new City for sure the price will be around 90K.
August 23, 2008 @ 2:40 pm
I like the font design but the back looks so simple and not match with the futuristic front view…interior is nice…
Paul, any idea for the price in M’sia?
August 23, 2008 @ 2:42 pm
Somehow i see a little bit of Vios in the rear.
Doesn’t the disc brake look a little small?
Well it is just a car. Regular car. Nothing to shout about. Not futuristic but slightly better than the rest in this category.
I wonder how the interior plastics will feel like. Better than Vios?
But we all know the Vios will still outnumber this car in monthly sales. Don’t we?
August 23, 2008 @ 2:44 pm
I’m guessing that this version is coming to our country or Singapore based on a clue available in one of the pics. I don’t know any other country who put 4 languages on a no smoking signboard. ^_^
August 23, 2008 @ 2:45 pm
Price wise, i guess it would be stupid for Honda to price it at 90K. Maybe 2K premium over current city will be fine. Better if can compete with vios J.
August 23, 2008 @ 2:49 pm
The front looks like the blue-faced African baboon. Is it any better-looking than dugong-faced Vios?
August 23, 2008 @ 2:53 pm
lovely exterior design… i think the new one does look much mature compared to current one le, which is great.. as for the interior i still prefer the current one coz it looks much comfortable yet pleasing…
August 23, 2008 @ 3:21 pm
The front exterior rocks. The rear is not so bad either, prolly bcoz the angle of the shot was taken. If you click on “China link” where it showed the rear part of new white city, it looked ok to me.
The rear appeared to be better than what I have expected. Good design overall, hell lot better than dugong vios.
August 23, 2008 @ 3:55 pm
Finally .. we got to see the real thing.
yes.. it’s definitely better looking than current Vios-gong.
IMHO the Honda could have design the interior better. The current 4G City has better interior look & design.
Cheers
August 23, 2008 @ 4:09 pm
the front is ok,but the back..looks like old dugong a bit…
tata dugong..we hate u..
August 23, 2008 @ 4:09 pm
interior does looks bored. but lots of improvements overall, superb!
August 23, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
WOW WOW thats what i can say , very Robotic kinda looks
*wink To the new city guys! (”Its more then meets the eyes”)
Question:
Omg where do i place the fat fish Vios now?
a.Ocean
b.River
c.Lake
Answer: _______________
August 23, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
Don’t worry, by the time this model arrives, lot’s of goodies will be stripped off. You simply cannot allow our national pride to look bad.
August 23, 2008 @ 4:35 pm
Very simple clean cut nice interior also.
August 23, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
City looks waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the dungu-dugong Vios.
My money is definitely on the new Honda City!
August 23, 2008 @ 4:43 pm
Well, you can thank the high taxes for the around 90k price tag. Just check the price list for Langkawi and you can know how much it actually costs without the p1 ‘protection money’!
August 23, 2008 @ 4:46 pm
No offence but I think the Kia Forte will give the City a serious run for its money.
August 23, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
Thats awesome!!
But the whells are a lil’ small ain’t it?
August 23, 2008 @ 4:57 pm
much.. much.. better than dugong..
August 23, 2008 @ 4:57 pm
hareshi said,
August 23, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
d.longkang busuk tepi jalan
August 23, 2008 @ 5:08 pm
do i smell autobot? face mimics optimus prime la.
August 23, 2008 @ 5:12 pm
to chapree,,
i agree w you too..think this photo was taken in some service centre in singapore…one of the photo tat showed the no smoking sign in 4 language is also clearly shows civic hybrid front wheel,,te car is on ramp…hybrid is sold here as well but is more popular singapore….
August 23, 2008 @ 5:20 pm
Which country will have this version?
August 23, 2008 @ 5:44 pm
lets kiss dugong good bye~~
August 23, 2008 @ 5:59 pm
Erm, interior plastics look abit too plasticky. very shiny.
August 23, 2008 @ 6:03 pm
This is nice….
Sure will be hot car on the road.
Exterior is nice… but the interior part hmmm, the panel is not that nice. dashboard part is fine.
if the price remain below 90k sure will be a good deal.
August 23, 2008 @ 6:25 pm
the center panel looks cheap…. silver colored panel is a NO, NO, NO….
August 23, 2008 @ 6:40 pm
very ugly , the front like a tank , rear like kena langgar, center panel looks like MYVi one, cheap…
August 23, 2008 @ 6:43 pm
Here’s the original source;
http://www.pantip.com/cafe/ratchada/topic/V6917444/V6917444.html
August 23, 2008 @ 6:47 pm
how bout gearbox??still CVT 2nd generation??
August 23, 2008 @ 7:08 pm
I’m more impressed by this - http://forte.kia.co.kr/index.html
August 23, 2008 @ 7:19 pm
look nice than the old one….:D
August 23, 2008 @ 7:28 pm
alanchai are u dugong lover?
then i’ll let u swim with the dugongs..
August 23, 2008 @ 7:59 pm
Wooo……
Nice innovation…. front like new accord… rear like BMW 3 series… interior i have no comment because i heard that this new city have 2 models… will be revealed…wait till the model launch. From the Honda Salesman the price is around RM80K - 90K…. but i feel sad because IDSi engine was stop… this new city have 5-Speed transmission and i-VTEC engine only…. compared to the current model have 7-speed transmission… may be Honda wanted to standardize their model with other model like accord and civic…. compared to VIOS only still using 4-speed transmission… how can other people said that VIOS was fuel save…. i think its totally unacceptable…
August 23, 2008 @ 8:17 pm
very impressive exterior but disappointed interior design. especially the centre dashboard, unacceptable aircond button design which look cheap and not everyone like the UNIQUE audio layout.
August 23, 2008 @ 8:20 pm
City get paddle shifters is it? Very nice then
August 23, 2008 @ 9:21 pm
yea silver color and the button designs looks cheap, perhaps i’d spray paint black the panel myself
August 23, 2008 @ 9:45 pm
A cut-cost interior compared to the Jazz’s well-designed interior…
August 23, 2008 @ 9:55 pm
This car design is definitely way better then the current 1.5L range!!! It’s will b a vios killer!! Keep up the good work Honda!! Cheer
August 23, 2008 @ 10:21 pm
Finally, no more bangle-ish bontot. Nice works.. Definitely a better choice than DuGong..
August 23, 2008 @ 10:28 pm
Overall I am disappointed, because I was expecting a much nicer interior. The interior is very important to me because that is what one sees all the time while driving. The new dash looks spartan and all the brushed aluminum trim has a cheap appearance and feel. The new steering wheel design is Civic-like, looking a little weird. It also looks quite small inside, I was hoping for more room compared to the current City. All in all, the interior looks plain-Jane - nothing special - with obvious attention given to cost-cutting. The front end is probably the best feature, still awaiting a better photo of the rear (or to see it in the flesh) so the jury is still out on the rear but it still looks similar to the current model except for the taillights. The wheels have no appeal whatsoever, but I would assume much more attractive ones would be available. I was considering buying a new City and loading it up with the cool looking accessories but now I worry I will dump a lot of extra money into the car with it still having a cheapness to it. A big disappointment, but I will wait until I see one (on Sept 12 here in Lopburi Thailand) for my final judgment. I really hope the impressions I have made thus far will then change! I understand a new beautiful red color is available now, which excites me. The current year’s color range of 18 shades of metallic gray really bores me but better colors alone will of course still not bring me to a purchase. It is better than the Vios, which I never considered because of the bulbous shape and awful center mounted gauges design. So… I guess I will continue to save up for the considerably more costly but far more beautiful and luxurious Toyota Altis. I realize the City and the Altis are not in the same group, but I really hoped I would like the City enough to keep from spending all the extra money for the Altis, albeit as fabulous as it is. But I will be making monthly payments for a long time so I want be completely pleased and happy with the car I end up with.
August 23, 2008 @ 10:31 pm
definitely a hot cake, finally a car to look forward to!
August 23, 2008 @ 10:56 pm
i do feel the same like you, Lopburi99. quite disappointed with the blunt interior and the feel of cost cutting. hopefully this is not the only trim level available. but i dont see any 1.5 or 1.3 on the rear in the photos.
August 23, 2008 @ 11:13 pm
Cool exterior except little weird grille BUT interior especially AC dials really cheapo. Honda should have electronic dials at least for high spec model
August 23, 2008 @ 11:22 pm
come to think about it, it does resemblance vios’s dashboard but uglier. and sayang no more dual compartment box.
August 23, 2008 @ 11:32 pm
cool. this looks pretty good.
i think this will sell well if priced right.
way better than vios.
August 23, 2008 @ 11:34 pm
Good point ignas, about maybe a different trim level being available which would provide more of a perception of quality. Or maybe a wood-panel accessory like many cars offer. Wood panels put in where some of the silver is would help a great deal. Or chrome interior trim accessories. I’m a big accessories/options believer person. If somebody want to add some bucks to really spiffy up a car (in this case, a car’s interior), why not make some great options readily available? This is a win-win for everybody, everybody is happy. The mfg and the dealer make extra profits and the buyer gets some variability to help create a desired appearance or feel. If I was younger and with more energy maybe I would create some aftermarket goodie kits…but alas, too old, too fat, too slow …
August 23, 2008 @ 11:40 pm
Padan muka la dengan Toyota Vios aka Dugong buyer. Sure wanna cry.
Wakakaka.
Well Honda, congratz to you for your cOol car design.
Memang la, in terms of design Toyota cannot beat Honda one. Look at ODYSSEY, STREAM, CIVIC, and now CITY. But, world ranking Toyota still #1. Maybe, because most European & American still fancy Toyota thn Honda.
August 23, 2008 @ 11:54 pm
OMG. Very fugly dashboard design… infact, the most Honda dashboard design I’ve ever seen IMO. Sigh…. love the exterior though….
August 23, 2008 @ 11:59 pm
Looks pretty good. Nearly as ganas looking as the new Accord!
August 24, 2008 @ 12:17 am
my opinion
exterior: rear lamp not “in harmony” with the front light.
interor: center console seems to be “messy”.
not a very refreshing design..well..don’t fix where it isn’t broken
looks a lot cool~ autobot, roll out!
August 24, 2008 @ 12:42 am
the exterior is pretty but the interior design sucks
i hope the city will be back what it is now
the jazz sedan!
being the jazz sedan , it will have a much better looking interior
the aircond button of jazz is nicer and modern compare to this leaks sypshots city and it look weird in the photo
i don’t expect this kind of interior from honda where all the new car from honda has a very nice, tidy interior and futuristic. i see none of them in the new generation of city ,although the looks of the car is a confirm beauty then all of its class.
the meter light not nice , i prefer the one used by current vtec city
as it have paddle shift on it , i think this is the high spec for up coming city . but anything could happen after the launching in the thai market , we will see then
August 24, 2008 @ 1:00 am
with an interior designed by proton. this thing better start at 75k rm.
August 24, 2008 @ 1:32 am
overall got looking car…. like the paddle shift.
August 24, 2008 @ 1:34 am
why dun new City share the same interior design of new Jazz. Like what Honda did for both previous genaration.
I really like the stylish dashboard design of new Jazz and the meter design out Jazz look simple but just nice. Compared to new City, the meter is just acceptable but the center dashboard is just weird.
Just curious Honda nowadays seems concentrate for exterior only. I can see not many people like the center dashboard of Civic and upcoming City, too complicated dashboard on Accord etc. Especially when you touch the dashboard, the only sense I feel is just cheap plastic. Nissan is way having better interior quality than Honda and Toyota, even though it has many weird points. It is my own concern
August 24, 2008 @ 2:09 am
Grille copy Toyota Alphard one
August 24, 2008 @ 3:34 am
i disagree with most of the commentors here on the interior..well.its true that not everyone likes a silver trim..but not everyone likes a wood trim too..to me, honda did the right decision by selecting a silver trim..wood trim is way too oldies..city is a mid class car afterall and not intended for luxury..is you want luxury, your choice should be either civic, altis or better..the audio button is also perfectly designed and comparing it to a myvi is a total absurd and he must have been an environmentalist(a dugong lover??)..the only drawback is maybe the two toned dash and i believe a higher spec model should have a monotoned one..i am also hoping that the s.e.a version will have a redefined grill which is more simple in design..overall, better than the old one..
August 24, 2008 @ 5:29 am
looks like the designers went crazy with the ruler on their design blueprint… in a way, feels and looks like a failed ‘transformer’ wannabe..
i like the meter cluster though..
August 24, 2008 @ 7:13 am
OK guys,,, you all keep on saying this new City nice nice nice, then Honda Malaysia will make its price high high high
Hmm.. I like the idea of paddle shift on the City.. nice
August 24, 2008 @ 9:05 am
Looks promising. Vios will have a tough time now.
Good work honda. The previous city issues where
1) CVT Gearbox : Reliability is questionable.
2) Design : Awkward especially the triangle window in front.
Sedan\Mpv design.
Honda has ditched both for the conventional type. Well done.
August 24, 2008 @ 9:06 am
Well, better than crappy P R O T O N!
August 24, 2008 @ 9:29 am
hmm was wondering, do ppl actually use the paddle shift on normal driving in the city or usually on highways rite?
August 24, 2008 @ 10:45 am
Price most important.
70k.
August 24, 2008 @ 10:48 am
I would be that this picture come from Malaysia.
I would be it should not have been in Singapore yet.
The workshop got Honda 3s color scheme.
The workshop use British power plug.
And some mentioned “4 language no smoking sign”
and the City uses Silverstone tyre.
And fire extinguisher with lots of stickers - must have sent if for inspection countless times.
Too bad, could not see the details of the cars parked outside
RT
August 24, 2008 @ 10:58 am
alanchai said,
August 23, 2008 @ 6:40 pm
____________________________________________
Alanchai,are u UNCLE from the 50’s? Or u just try to speek diffrent among others? Maybe we should raise a fund to buy u a pair of glasses,so u can see “clearly”…hek hek…
August 24, 2008 @ 12:33 pm
Well said by farghmee, the rear taillights seem out of harmony with the front headlamps, but I am still hoping the camera angle was bad and the rear will look much better when actually seen in the flesh. Yes yippi33, I agree not everybody likes the same look, but that is why I suggested “accessories” or options like wood panels so each can choose according to their own taste at purchase time preferably rather than aftermarket. I also agree if one wants luxury one should look at Civic, Altis or higher, but they are a lot more money and I had really hoped Honda would offer a bit nicer interior in the new City which in my opinion would have made it much more of a success. That said however, I realize the tight economics involved with new production so I think all in all Honda did a very decent redesign. Just not quite what I hoped for, that’s all. But it will surely still be very much liked by many many people and will be a major threat to Vios.
August 24, 2008 @ 12:51 pm
workmanship looks shoddy but the exterior looks just ok. the car won’t sell if not because of its brand and technology. one may assume it is one of many cars which is designed and manufactured in china. honda engineers were merely make-up the front and rear Jazz and the result was inproportionate nose and butt parts. our proton can do a lot better with the design if you see it deeply.
vios will be lead marginally with its complete package offered to buyers.
August 24, 2008 @ 3:32 pm
Now this is way much much better than the old one… No more girls with the G-string rear lamp design…
August 24, 2008 @ 4:17 pm
on second thought, the rear lights now look pretty ugly, but its better than the vios, but maybe its honda’s plan so that people will buy the jazz
August 24, 2008 @ 4:18 pm
hey guys…the new honda city i-vtec rocks…definetly a much better version …but here s a catch by HONDA…..HONDA is gonna launch the above honda city as an additional variant to the existing version. This meeans that the current generation would continue being sold throughout. This version might cost 1/10th more than the current V-tec…just got it confirmed with a friend in HONDA Motors….not sure abt other countries but in India….the launch is most likely to be in Diwali….Honda city would continue selling the current variant for the i-DSI versions
August 24, 2008 @ 4:38 pm
brilliant
August 24, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
The car spotted is for sure in Honda Thailand… why? If u click on the below link provided by xstan…It return the below error..
welcometoThailand is no longer active on Flickr.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29781768@N02/?saved=1
I think the link is force to be deleted! Honda has tried its best to keep the car’s final shape from being known because it’s a crucial model for the company.
August 24, 2008 @ 7:27 pm
mytouch said,
if u guys not believe, lets see the real one when launching, the actual ugly then the photo one and also the current city has better looks then the new one.
August 24, 2008 @ 7:42 pm
Rasanya Isfufushah dah salah…. world ranking sekarang #1 adalah HONDA manakala Toyota dah jatuh ranking #2
August 24, 2008 @ 10:18 pm
honda boleh!
August 24, 2008 @ 10:27 pm
Dear mukhlisin28,
The latest news was that Toyota is numero uno.. overtaking GM
http://www.finfacts.ie/irishfinancenews/article_1013406.shtml
RT..
August 24, 2008 @ 10:31 pm
more on that Toyota vs Honda.
In 2007, Toyota sold 9 million cars, while Honda sold close to 4 million cars.
.
August 24, 2008 @ 10:38 pm
all I can say is
1. more power, more fuel consumption
2. looks can be deceiving, let’s talk about reliability first
3. how fast can you go on traffic jam roads?
4. We are not formula 1 drivers, paddle shift is for high performance cars..please wake up honda…if you can’t even beat the lancer GT.
5. Talk only, wait for the results and find out how good it is.
August 24, 2008 @ 10:57 pm
cant wait to see how good it is…deng!
August 25, 2008 @ 2:54 am
Damn…sure looks nice but the question is these:
a.) Would Honda price a Vios J-Spec like model into the price range?
b.) Any chance we’d see a 1.3 model too?
c.) Are the rims (for higher spec presumably) would be of those as seen from the China sneakshots?
August 25, 2008 @ 8:01 am
I visited the Honda showroom yesterday, the sales manager said City will be launched in Nov or Dec in Malaysia…booking is already open..price wont more than 90k
August 25, 2008 @ 8:37 am
I tried the new Jazz with the 1.5 litre 120hp engine. For those who are into figures, they’ll be somewhat disappointed. To me, figures are academic and the most important issue is to ensure just how efficient and capable the car is when the engine and gearbox are bolted into the car.
My cousin’s 4 year old City i-DSI has begun to show signs of tiredness. The gearbox is noisy with constant “clacky” noises during acceleration and upon engagement, there is a certain amount of lag before the drive kicks in. I can ssure you, his car is propoerly maintained by Honda Malaysia. We’ve made noises to seek a gearbox change but the constant deferral has caused our warranty to expire and the bill for a gearbox change is high, though is still reasonable for 1.5 litre car. My friend’s 2 year-old City VTEC is working well, except for constant rattling noises coming from the dash despite frequent visits to the service centre.
My Vios suffers the same, though somehow it has been rectified properly. No, I’m not here to fuel the battle between Honda and Toyota, but for prospective buyers in this segment, bear in mind that these are “budget” cars and are often beefed up with as much spec as possible to edge them closer to their elder sibbling.
Problems will always arise and though Toyota is the biggest manufacturer and most reliable in many countries, it doesn’t mean that thier cars are bullet prrof. Figures show that their cars have the least serious and amount of problems. In some countries, you’d be suprised at who’s in the no.1 reliability spot.
August 25, 2008 @ 8:50 am
Sweet stuff… gotta love the Optimus Prime grille and the Type-R hatch’s influence at the front
August 25, 2008 @ 8:57 am
Honda designers running out of ideas? Why the BMW rear lamps? Oooops.. i forgot…it’s for BMW wannabes! Well, at least it’s better looking than the MyVi facelift!
August 25, 2008 @ 9:34 am
Defend out national pride against these foreign road invaders! Say no to ‘foreign brand’ cars! I think proton protection money is something like a ‘bar fine’ in Thailand.
August 25, 2008 @ 10:13 am
Noticed that the lay out of the dash features is similar to the present unit. The placment of 3 dial knobs is placed excatly at the bottom of the audio system. The air cond vent is on top with red stop button between the vent.
It has cool paddle shifts & hope like Jazz it came with auto cruise.
To cater for much economy affordable sector, they should introduce 1.3L unit & is sure kick Vios j-unk butt.
The thing is…its definately way better then the Vios is all dept..better features, better exterior , better dash, definately spacious then the Vios. 5 speed tranny City against conservatove 4 speed Vios.
August 25, 2008 @ 10:44 am
Well, overall is ok for me. A fresh new look for new city. Front looks nice with some touch of New Accord/FCX. Rear looks nice with some touch of BMW and Dugong. Hell with wannabes, as long as it looks good, its good! The panel looks cheap, but is ok. The steering wheel looks a little weird, since its a direct copy from Civic. but for the cabin space, not sure. From the photos, the front seats are very close to each other. Some big fellow may shoulder-to-shoulder with each other? Engine is at 120hp (probably?) and is quite nice. But spare the paddle shift, doesnt even fit in this car. Moreover with all the accessories stripped in Malaysia market prior to sale, it may just be a plain dream of paddle shifting your gear :p
But sometimes photos can be deceiving, just like the launch of last city. It just looks nice in the pictures, but when it came to the real eyes, they are so odd looking, like a kura kura with high roofline and short front and rear. Hopefully doesnt happen with this batch of City.
And to Dugong lover/owner, feel the disappointment in your odd weird funny idiotic looking Dugong!
August 25, 2008 @ 11:33 am
i guess a lot of people are confused with hp and PS.
if city ivtec is rated at 120ps = 118.3hp
ie 1ps= 0.9863 hp
for smaller discplacement just minus 2 from ps figure.
so go figure. 120 ps not equal to 120hp. Please do correct me if i am wrong.
August 25, 2008 @ 12:25 pm
New City content sport and luxury element, European design for front and rear view and come with sport shift paddle if the price is around RM8XXXX i think honda want to conquer Malaysia 1.5CC market is like “makan kacang”.
August 25, 2008 @ 1:18 pm
Hi, finally honda city interior is out.
No offence, but the interior doesnt look convincing. Where is the current nice dashboard and nice player?
Sigh…..honda, pls give back the current interior design and of course, keep the nice looking exterior design.
Btw, i am a honda lover, waiting for this machine for 8 months already since Feb08.
August 25, 2008 @ 4:08 pm
lol i have been waiting for 2 years while driving my 7 yr old junk national car. honda city fast fast come!
if the new center panel really tat bad, perhaps can change with the current’s one since they layout is almost similair.
August 25, 2008 @ 4:09 pm
I do not see how the rear part of city has dugong looks. Wats wrong with u guys with dugong. Vios front has dugong looks for sure not the rear part of city lah. Interior wise, it is as disappointing as the new vios in ALL variant, even the premium one. Uh.. oh if u guys still complain then should opt for 3 series or civic/altis loh.
one thing for sure i do pity recent 2006 city buyers coz their second hand value just dropped to the lowest in the shortest time (imo).
August 25, 2008 @ 5:13 pm
cyborgx,
That’s the very reason why we get crappy designed car. I was excited at first when Toyota announced the new Vios back then. When it was launched, I was like “WTF?! I kept wondering what were they were thinking. Surely it’s the work of indecisive committee.
City on the other hand is a pleasant surprise. Looks more proportionate & better looking than the other.
August 25, 2008 @ 6:02 pm
maybe the honda and toyota are exchanging designers lol. at first the current honda city first batch looks very disproportionated while previous vios tooks all the attention. but soon its going to be the other way round.
August 25, 2008 @ 8:30 pm
THe plastic interior Looks BORING now.
August 25, 2008 @ 9:04 pm
It’s been a couple of days now since I first saw these photos and commented on them. Surprisingly, the interior dash looks is growing on me somewhat. Sometimes in the case of a new design it takes a little time for some appeal/acceptance to develop within many of us. Undoubtedly there is some degree of resignation which eventually allows me to give up on my wished-for feature and begin to accept the new, although initially disappointing, design. I really hope the interior will continue to grow on me. Oh, one hopeful thought: I did not notice a “ZX” designation on the rear. Could it be possible a “ZX” version will be offered additionally could be more appealing in the inside? Somebody commented earlier he heard from reliable sources there would be two City versions. Maybe I am a hopeless romantic, always holding up hope!
August 25, 2008 @ 9:49 pm
Hey, just found a new photo on a different site. Check out:
http://www.southzonejazzclub.com/smf/index.php?topic=1800.0
It shows a view of the side and rear - looks really good! The camera angle makes the rear look better than on the first photo of the blue City on this site, and it is much clearer.
Also there is a description of the S (MT, AT), V AT(ABS, AS) and the SV AT (AS) versions. Unfortunately I can’t read Thai! (Please somebody translate for us).
I hope that photo of the side/rear is real and not a Photoshop creation. The lines on the side look great! And thankfully, the allow wheels look much nicer IMHO. Also, from this photo doesn’t it appear the new City may have a longer wheelbase? Sure hope so. And I think maybe the paddle shift comes on the SV only.
August 25, 2008 @ 9:56 pm
Just found the translation:
Honda City 2008/09 S Model
* beige tone interior
* Remote Control Key with Immobilizer
* 3rd rear brake indicator
* 15 inch wheel with wheels cover
* Sterio 2 din mp3 playing enable
* Front Dual speaker
Honda City 2008/09 V Model
* beige tone interior
* Remote Control Key with Immobilizer
* 3rd rear brake indicator
* 15 inch Alloy wheel
* Advanced Audio system Sterio 2 din mp3 playing enable
* Dual speaker of front and rear
* chromium door handle
* Driver seat low-high adjustment enable
* Luggage under of rear passenger seat
* ABS,EBD,BA
* Dual airbag SRS (V AS only)
Honda City 2008 SV Model
* Black sporty looking tone interior
* Remote Control Key with Immobilizer
* 3rd rear brake indicator
* 16 inch Alloy wheel
* Fox lamp in the front and rear bumper
* chromium exhaust pipe
* Turn light indicator of side mirror
* Switch steering
* Paddle Shift
* Rear seater can be folded 60:40 enable
* Incline forward rear back seat
* Front armrest
* Map lighting
* Advanced Audio system Sterio 2 din mp3 playing enable
* Dual speaker of front and rear
* chromium door handle
* Driver seat low-high adjustment enable
* Luggage under of rear passenger seat
* ABS,EBD,BA
* Dual airbag SRS
Unfortunately it does not appear there will be a distinct ZX version although the SV does have a “Black sporty looking tone interior” and a 60/40 rear seat - looking forward to seeing that!
August 25, 2008 @ 10:13 pm
And (lastly) I also just fount prices (in baht - obviously for the Thai version of City):
S MT 530,000 ???
S AT 565,000 ???
V AT 610,000 ???
V AT(AS) 630,000 ???
SV AT(AS) 665,000 ???
Looking forward to reading everybody’s comments. Cheers all!
August 26, 2008 @ 12:53 am
this car rocks…hope honda prices it correctly..
haha…waiting for the DOOM of Dugong!! Toyota engineering and design team reminds me of a lazy/sleepyhead leader that we have in our country. Do lousy job but still can get majority support of the rakyat.
poor gullible malaysians.
August 26, 2008 @ 1:22 am
mmsaidi said,
August 24, 2008 @ 12:51 pm
vios will be lead marginally with its complete package offered to buyers.
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what’s the complete package of dugong vios?
Answer:
- stone-age 4speed gearbox that increases fuel consumption/noise and reduces comfort
- inferior, outdated, noisy and overrated 1.5L engine that produces only 105hp
- ugly dugong design exterior package
- poor built quality interior
- luxurious and “priceless” chrome toyota emblem and badge
- cheap number plates that either drop out or turn yellow in 1 year.
- higher cost of ownership during 1st 3 years compared to city.
August 26, 2008 @ 1:36 am
Lopburi99…good job! sawadikappppp! ;p
August 26, 2008 @ 1:39 am
kington said,
August 25, 2008 @ 8:37 am
I tried the new Jazz with the 1.5 litre 120hp engine. For those who are into figures, they’ll be somewhat disappointed. To me, figures are academic and the most important issue is to ensure just how efficient and capable the car is when the engine and gearbox are bolted into the car
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i know what u mean…however feeling an acceleration is subjective and not accurate..sometimes u don’t need to feel the torque/strong jerk for u to accelerate fast. Thats excellent engineering.Try driving a S350 from standstill and see. Its smooth and actually u accelerate fast without feeling the jerk. U would be fooled into thinking a vios can outsprint a S350 until u try racing one if you have a chance. The vios feels faster due to the strong jerk but u will only smell the S350’s smoke in the end.
August 26, 2008 @ 7:55 am
I really hope HM will not use the same dashnoard centre piece, or at least make it a dark colore compared to this cheap plastice looking console. The rest are fine….
August 26, 2008 @ 10:00 am
Just add RM20k to Thai prices and you’ll get Malaysian price. Cars designed for developing countries is almost always RM20k more expensive than our neighbours Thailand and Indonesia.
August 26, 2008 @ 11:56 am
Most of you probably know Thai prices include air cond and VAT. Being new to S.E.A., this is really refreshing to learn. In the U.S., various taxes and other costs (transportation to the dealer, dealer prep charges, paint sealant and other dealer forced extras, registration fees, etc.) are almost never included in the prices advertized everywhere on TV, radio, and in print. We were always bowled over when provided with the final nasty number. In many ways life here is much more straightforward, simple and pleasant, and with the great healthy fruits and food I know will live an extra ten years for sure. Love it here.
BTW, never being one for practicality, I am considering selecting the new beautiful metallic red color City, of which I shudder about durability in the blistering sun. Second choice would be metallic silver but there are so so many silver cars everywhere. Here in S.E.A., are paint sealant processes (if available) effective? If so, I would think this is money very well spent for any, especially colorful, new car.
August 26, 2008 @ 12:17 pm
Well stated by king about torque. Somewhat off topic (sorry), but in my many lives I once owned a V12 Jaguar XJS. When excelerating you never felt the trans, and never heard anything. You just felt your breath taken away as your back was mashed into your seatback! Smooth and silent as an super-powerful electric motor. Although I also like the roar of a Ferrari type car, the XJS was an awesome driving experience I will never forget.
August 26, 2008 @ 3:53 pm
lopburi.. are you like an American currently residing in Thailand? Hopefully when you get your hands on the new City (such massive difference in power compared to your previous ride, how will you cope) you can share some personal assesment, yes?
August 26, 2008 @ 3:55 pm
Honda Vios butt… The interior looks so compared to Latio.
August 26, 2008 @ 6:16 pm
mukhri88.. yes I just retired to Thailand from the USA. I’ll be test driving a new City as soon as the dealer gets one, which she said was on Sept 12. I’ll be happy to post my opinions. Coping-wise, everything in Thailand is massively different for me, language being foremost and most difficult (there are almost no English speaking people in Lopburi) but I am picking up Thai quickly. The short little words are not difficult to remember. Relating to the luxury of the Jag XJS, it’s just a very fond distant memory (being 20 years ago). I realize whichever car I get here will fall short of those I’ve had in the past because I don’t have the income I once had. I just want a well built, tight, reasonably comfortable, sharp looking car with decent economy and adequate responsiveness. As long as it doesn’t bog down upon acceleration I think I can cope ok.
August 27, 2008 @ 12:14 am
sorry guys… toyota does not become no.1 just for nothing. there is nothing wrong with dugong or dolphin design and 4 gear transmission. Study shows that toyota 4 gear transmission iECT s at par with honda 5 gear transmission. toyota manufactures car perfectly and keep customer happy with after sales services.
to honda lovers, don’t easy get excited. wait until the car is launched, test drive and compare performance. read review written by professional or go to yahoo car comparison. i tested all toyota and honda cars before i decided that toyotas are a lot better than hondas. i remember people labelled corolla was a better car than accord in 80s but in the 90s it reversed because of the marketing strategy adopted by Kah Motor promoting honda as prestige cars.
this decade belong to toyota (no. 1 car beating GM) and honda must strive to impress.
and King, you must be honda salesman who want so bad to recover the sales commission lost to vios.
good luck King.
August 27, 2008 @ 12:23 am
heard from a honda salesman,they will stop the order for the current honda city in the month of sept,after that all the current model will be send to third world country.and the new one will replace in the end of the year,he said is around the range of 90k.thats painful to my wallet but i plan to buy it cause of its fuel efficiency compare to the cheap ass looking vios..
August 27, 2008 @ 6:19 am
what ever u all comment…this may become my future car…really looking forward to see its….hope its better on action from the picture.
August 27, 2008 @ 12:09 pm
yeap and they also said only 1.5 ivtec will be available in malaysia.
August 27, 2008 @ 12:19 pm
S AT RM97k
V AT RM101k
August 28, 2008 @ 12:49 am
i dont think so. so long i hv waited 4 the city, i was very sad, it
follow the same trend as toyota, cheap plastic interior, same or even
worst than potong gen2 or waja…
if it is the same design come out in bolehland, i would rather choose
latio.
seem like all the new car are getting less improvement in term of the
material used on interior….look at very old corolla n civic….
hai…………
August 28, 2008 @ 12:51 pm
well, seems this new honda city interior is making many ppl no appetite~ so am I~ A car for me, interior is much more important to me since we are all the time sitting in the car driving~ not the outlook~ but I feel disappointing with this interior design~ thought it will use honda jazz interior but it doesn’t~~
this makes me gonna change my mind to go on low cost potong car~ I know potong cant compare with H or T batch car, but i check the price of waja CPS, persona or gen 2, it’s about 20k to 30k difference~ that’s a LOT~~
hmm~ do u guys think it’s worth to invest on this new City or save that 20k - 30k to go on local potong car~?
normally potong car can last long for how many years? I am not afford to change car always~ when invest a car, my planning is staying with it for at least 8 years~ anyone can give suggestions and opinions? thanks~
August 28, 2008 @ 5:28 pm
look like i am going against the tide of praise and glorification here.. but the overall design theme of this intro-level honda (in m’sia at least) is definitely over-design. its too ’strong’ for a car that is basically a city car for point A to B transport. perhaps the theme is strong presence and futuristic. and its to elevate the car status. The exterior design and some interior design & gadgets is also designed to amplify the choosen theme.
whatever it is, surely lots and lots of people will simply fall in love with it whatever the price/spec/actual capability are. as long as its a honda, its doesn’t really matters anymore. the 2nd hand value will surely be high which is the ‘get-of-of-jail card’ love by every buyer, just in case a newer city or civic is even ‘better’ 1-2 years down the road..
All hail the Hondas!
August 28, 2008 @ 8:42 pm
agreed with franson.
both dont choose, i rather stay with my 6++yrs old wira, interior very very far better car…comfort than vios….
new car seem to be more cheap nowadays. all the car com seem like 1 2 earn more $$$ and try to cut cost as much as possible.
now seem like latio is one of the best choice, best in interior, 1.6 some more,
very big car, if city sell above 90k then= to latio 92k, so which one u choose?
nowaday, $$ not easy to earn but easy to spend. spend wisely.
August 29, 2008 @ 10:03 am
Paul, is there any latest news about new Honda City?
by the way, I think people out there are most concern about its price~
hope Honda Malaysia think twice to come out a reasonable price~
August 30, 2008 @ 10:06 am
mmsaidi,
Pls grow up and don’t give immature comments ! Does pointing out the flaws of toyota mean that i am a honda salesman?
Face the fact ok…the vios was a sub standard “3rd world” toyota.
And what study are you refering to? mmsaidi childish study? if 4 speed gearbox is better than 5 speed, what for all luxury cars have 5, 6 or 7 speed? Prove it ! Why camry 2.4 got 5-speed auto? So vios is better than camry??? If true, then toyota must be ripping all camry buyers!!!
Or u r saying toyota gearbox is the best in the world? Thats pure crap!!…If you say ZF has the best gearboxes at least acceptable although not entirely true. Thats what hardcore fanboys like you do all the time. All talk and no prove.
That is just a sour grape statement.
Oh…the saga’s 3 speed gearbos is better than the vios 4-speed …cheaper to maintain…in your study…right?
August 30, 2008 @ 11:38 pm
king u r totally right!!
vios is 4th country car…..
i m in the middle between latio n new city……if city price above 90k.
so now have to wait for the launch 2 see the real car….
i think and dont expect it will change much here with the picture show by paul tan if launch here in bolehland with very cheap and un-organize interior n dashboard….
initially i would expect it is the same interior as new jazz…i really like the interior in the jazz when test drive…so sophisticate, organize, nice to touch but too expensive 109k for such a small car…
September 2, 2008 @ 9:07 am
just my 2 cents:
if the new honda city is to vs the vios market, the price should not be 90K but instead at a more competitive price range.
to keep the cost low, interior quality may drop, but knowing the likes of Honda and Toyota, its like a contra value for a good technologically advance engine and parts. you cannot be comparing to older cars as the older cars were released in a different time, that is long before price of materials went up sky high. hence to keep up with the ever increasing cost, there has to be a balance.
if new cars were to compare with local potong cars and the recent batch of proton cars, the difference in 20k is due to the difference in quality, costing and value. do you get the good old mitsubishi engines in proton cars these days? its all campro, and i believe everyone knows the hoohaa on campro engines. you don’t hear brand new imported cars stopping dead right or giving problems in the middle of the road right? with the amount of servicing (time, $$ and pain) a proton requires, i think the extra 20k is a-ok.
hence, if you really want to compare the likes, compare it with the same car of its class, an apple to apple comparison. vios vs city vs latio. now this shouldn’t be too hard to make the decision right?
as for all die hard fans, regardless of what people say, you already have a defence grid / parameter around your likings, so it is unlikely to sway your decision.
September 2, 2008 @ 11:54 am
i already book for city 2009…haha,,, i can still bear wait for another 4 months
i’m looking foward in city 2009… my dreamcasr now…:)
September 2, 2008 @ 11:12 pm
hey hata~ the honda city is already opened for booking ya? how’s the price~? so the salesman said u will be getting the car around Jan’09 ?~~
September 3, 2008 @ 12:44 pm
hi franson~
yup..the new city already opening for booking since last month
the S/A said the new city will arrive on mid of DEC’08 and launching on early of Jan’08
im the 18th booker, so the 1st batch sure count on me..that’s S/A told to me. i really hope so can get the new car b4 CNY…
i think maybe some area want 2clear current stock so din’t open for book yet..
well..r u interest 2?
September 3, 2008 @ 5:38 pm
WAY BETTER THAN DUGONG, BUT SURE THE “PRICE” ALSO….
WAY…. “BETTER” *wink*
September 3, 2008 @ 6:06 pm
hehe count me in too cos me also booked the car already. 7 days till launching in thailand and literally about 4 months to get the car…sigh….
September 3, 2008 @ 7:13 pm
Hi HATA, r u malaysian or thai?
Just wondering as I also want to make a booking now if u r malaysian, by the way, how much is the price for this city when you book?
September 3, 2008 @ 7:22 pm
To Honda Malaysia:
i think from the feedback from everybody here, clearly saying that if this Honda city going to have that strange Orange color dull dashboard, with that plastic and ugly interio, even though you make this city with such damn good looking exterior, your sales might still not able to compete to vios!
I just wonder why when many of us waiting for this city for almost 2 years (for me, i wait since Jan 08) , and with such great effort to improve your rear side, and with such a stunning front view, why the hack make the interior such ugly? Cant you guys just make it same like the new jass?
Dont tell me is because of the cost….cos it will not b acceptable!! THink of it man, you are so damn close to perfection, why cant u just finish it with our big applause by giving us an acceptable interior???? Do u know with that interior, it is worse than our proton waja interior. Sigh……….
from a honda lover who is now upset
September 3, 2008 @ 8:14 pm
Yes~ i am interested much for this honda city too but at least i need to know what will be the price tag that our Honda Malaysia will put it on~ hey listen Honda Malaysia, you better “steady” for this Honda city price if the interior design is really like the pictures shown above~ Majority are really disappointed with the design as we all hoping so much that the new Honda City interior will similar as new Honda Jazz~
September 3, 2008 @ 10:20 pm
totally agreed with gogorock & franson, really very dissappointed with the interior…..
like i said, shift to latio or sx4…we got other alternative brand to choose…
September 4, 2008 @ 11:10 am
how much how much how much?????
September 4, 2008 @ 1:03 pm
Hi Gogorock,
yup,Im malaysian.i paid the 2k booking fee for the new city.the actual price i also dunno maybe around 88k to 92k. For me, the interior from spy shot seems not the problem 4 me. it look likes neat n simple and it just thailand style…maybe got some change n improve in malaysia…hopefully
What i likes enkoy in new honda city is exterior n technology, now upgrade to the 120ps n among the 1500cc it was the powerest…!!
Hi Franson~
i think the should rounding 88k to 92k.if the new honda city is to vs the vios market, the price should not be 90K but instead at a more competitive price range.
hurry…franson n gogorock. make the booking.. lets be 1st batch owner
we have believe honda is reliable n worth it………..cheers~
September 4, 2008 @ 8:56 pm
create a product but engineer flaws into it so you can improve on the nextgen? sort of like iphone 1st gen? nintendo ds with wep encription instead of wpa? batman b