Apparently Perodua played a teaser video for its upcoming Perodua D46T 7-seater MPV based on the Toyota Passo Sette at the SMIDEC exhibition this month!
Continue reading for the full scoop on the new Perodua MPV!
Reader waja2000 was kind enough to record the teaser video for us, and the good news for us eager followers of the MPV’s development is that the Perodua MPV is shown clearly in its undisguised form in the video, from pretty much every angle! The video also revealed that the MPV will be launched in November 2009.
The front end features a new grille that very much reminds me of the one found on the Perodua Nautica. Perodua has also changed the shape of the headlamps. The Passo Sette and Boon Luminas versions sold in Japan feature headlamps that have a straight bottom design but Perodua’s cuts upwards towards the outer edge of the car.
The bumper features a wide central air intake flanked by two large round foglamps. In a way, Perodua’s design has all the design cues to look relatively more sporty than the more conservative standard Toyota bodykit in comparison, but there are some optional bodykits on the Japanese versions that look way more aggressive than Perodua’s take on the Passo Sette.
The teaser video even lets us have a glimpse of the alloy wheel design. It is very likely that the alloy wheels will not be featured across the range as the norm is for Perodua to put steel wheels on the baseline models, and there will likely be a baseline model given the price sensitive buying behaviour of alot of Perodua buyers.
There are not much changes on the rear end. With one past rebadged model, Toyota and Daihatsu put the Passo’s number plate on the rear bumper with a flat rear hatch, and Perodua modified this to have the bumper on the rear hatch instead. But with the Passo Sette, the number plate was already on the rear hatch and this was probably in line with Perodua’s already established rear end look and feel so Perodua left it untouched. The rear bumper is missing the round or square reflectors that some of the Japanese models have.
I am not 100% sure but it looks like the Perodua MPV has LED tail lamps in this particular screen capture. Could just be an illusion or distortion though.
It looks like Perodua is not holding everything back with secrecy when it comes to their new 7-seater MPV. First it displayed the Perodua MPV interior, and now the exterior. It knows it will be sharing the market with Proton and is trying to draw buyers away from the Exora, or at least get them to wait until their model comes out and then make a decision. The Perodua is a smaller vehicle of course, likely to be powered by a 1.5 litre DVVT engine with front wheel drive.
Proton will likely be countering this with the 5-speed manual Proton Exora, which would bring the baseline price point down a little. I think other than competing with the Exora, the Perodua MPV might actually also steal some thunder from the Proton Persona because it will be an affordable Perodua (since the Nautica is relatively unaffordable) with decent boot space when you fold the small third row seats down and turn it into a 5-seater with a large boot instead of a 7-seater. The third row doesn’t look too welcoming for full sized adults. Perodua previously only had the Myvi and Viva, which cannot compete with a full blown sedan in terms of luggage area.
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i am wating for this . not too sure is it going to be a seller , but i think proton might start their war quite soon .
Well.. From my past experience.. I gonna bet this MPV will sell more compare to Exora.. Who want to bet with me?
Even until now the BLM SAGA will cannot win over Myvi sales…
myvi extended version~
Meh… I got no love for this car. Just a stretched myvi and 20k more expensive.
Perodua does nothing to me nowdays, just a rebadged cars with no soul. Clarkson is finally right (he was wrong before), it's a just some white goods. I hope he blows up this mini-van with dynamites when this thing inevitably went on sale in UK.
Herm the front looks like Myvi… Quite nice actually…
the last picture looks so funny….so tight…sitting like a frog
ya lloks very narrow , if u seriously buy car for thwe space , u cannot beat the exora actually , this can steal sales from avanza itself…bt its jus a myvi with a longer butt…not exciting…
[quote comment="243335"]the last picture looks so funny….so tight…sitting like a frog[/quote]
actually only frog can seat comfortably than human.
MyVI elder version
this will definately beat the exora sales…looks nicer and sleeker…the interior is much neater too…
Nice ka…Not bad at all
Can beat Exora…wait and see
Hope not be the next victim to Jeremy Clarkson…you know…Keli…sss…hak hak hak XD
sorry , july exora manual is my choice.
Exora cukup besar ….tapi engine 1.6 …
unser 1.8 also have issue.
sorry, july exora manual still my choice.
[quote comment="243329"]Well.. From my past experience.. I gonna bet this MPV will sell more compare to Exora.. Who want to bet with me?
Even until now the BLM SAGA will cannot win over Myvi sales…[/quote]
Same old story..still comparing car with different class..comparing a sedan with Myvi..then comparing small mpv with Exora? Get a life dude..
hohoho..this model will pawn Exora kau kau man..You just watch!
Exora looks like a blardy boat on wheels..
The front, headlamp and grille looks very Hyundai i10-ish… And interior is much up scale, much better looking than most Small MVP in Malaysia Market…. Avanza,Livina,Exora,Rondo….. all looks very plasticky…
They r too afraid to show the rear seats…ha ha ha
MPV r not supposed to be small..
Better buy normal sedan than this so-called mini MPV..
No soul….just show & no go. Exora has more dynamic. If standing side by side at trafic light I feel proud in exora
rubbish !!! beat exora ? dream on perodua fans…
dis looks like rubbish on wheels
I think this is be another Perodua's best selling car, just like Myvi!
I saw some Exoras on the road this week (finally!!!….).
Well, honestly, Exora look better in the showroom close-up than from a distance (on the road). In the real world, Exora look like an oversize box & the rear really too high. It make Toyota Wish look like a sport car ha ha!!. Anyone with the same view?? This Perodua MPV look better & more streamline from the side compare to Exora. The Exora rear really let it down. Maybe this is Proton overreaction to Gen2 old criticism of the poor rear headroom…..unfortunately they overdid it untill they compromised the overall side profile design…Malang tidak berbau…
err,.. any crash test video..? anybody..? What about the roll test…….? can it survive that one ? What about the Genting trip with full 7 adults on board, I really, eagerly waanted to know that test result also. This one shouldn't be underpowered, since this is a TOYOT.. oppss.., my fault, this is just a PERODUA. A sushi in a nasi lemak packaging sold with the price of a karipap..
Any news about ISOFIX in this one…? Hope P2 will put ISOFIX at all cost, if not then should be burnt like hell by Mr PT as what the Exora had previously. ;-)
.peace!
The video is not really showing a real car (apart from the interior shoots). It's in fact a 3D animation, and hence, we might not be actually watching the final car. There might be some change along the way untill the actual launch in November. Hopefully they will do something about the rear seat profile. (It's not hard, isn't it??)
Come on lah~ every ppl have their own needs….just let the poor ppl or less income have a change to buy a so call MPV car…..
Both Proton or Perodua MPV looks nice to me….
Why Malaysian want to attack Malaysian? whats the point?
look at the pic below, i think it has a steptronic option gearbox too…
http://paultan.org/photo/Perodua-D46T-Interior-MS…
lets see this perodua mpv can beat exora's sales or not!!
let see another war begins proton and perodua!
anybody had any guess what engine it's gonna put in..?
obviously passo sette have 1.5,
how about TOYOT only gave 1.3 to perodua..??
huuu….
just a hunch…..
a definite avanza killer… but different class compare wif exora…
Another AVANZA lookalike MPV
Perodua finally has to reveal the exterior look because ppl knew oredi perodua just rebadge a passo sette/luminas and ppl know how it looks like . ppl can find it on the internet.
they even don't dare to show 3rd seat, luggage space and 3rd row aircond got or not..?? got crash test rated ??
we know 3rd row aircond is very important to malaysian..
from the spec.. This mpv using similar AVANZA 1.5 engine.. exterior size: same height, narrower and 20mm longer than AVANZA.. so conclusion.. it is just AVANZA ish and side profile of AVANZA is much better than this MPVthe rear of side profile looks funny.. almost 90 degr
Avanza potential buyer will go for this MPV…
Exora attract more towards Bigger MPV like livina,Easter, Rondo or Innova potential buyer
and i heard the tentative price has increased RM65k~75K.. is that true???
they want to cheat ppl again?? last time they claimed this MPV is WISH lookalike.. but end up with AVANZA lookalike
prrrfthhhh
[quote comment="243329"]Well.. From my past experience.. I gonna bet this MPV will sell more compare to Exora.. Who want to bet with me?
Even until now the BLM SAGA will cannot win over Myvi sales…[/quote]
can beat exora???
now malaysian smart oredi not like past 3 years ago.. not simply conned by so called "JAPANAESE touched"
For MALAYSIAN.. SIZE DOES MATTER.. no matter what.. malaysia will go for spacious car .. that's why Myvi can beat saga SIZE is everything for malaysia.. even NISSAN VANNETTE selling well in Malaysia.. so interm of size.. EXORA beats this Mpv at all range..This mpv just a AVANZA size
Hmm,
Don't expect local manufacturer to give a good/high quality and reliable car. Exora shown some improvement in Proton local design house in term of interior deisgn and finishing, but the sad thing is, the power plant….campro 1.6……
As for japanese car….then Avanza is with nice design also but dun forget, it's a daihatsu MPV with daihatsu engine……hmmmmm……
Truly no soul…Those who said this car is better than Exora, who are you???Car tester?? This not even test drive yet and you have already comment about it..
1st, I have friend who is Perodua car tester and already benchmarking Exora. He said at speed 170km/h, Exora still safe to drive and steady. During he test Exora downhill Genting, it has better engine braking (Low Gear)..Exora is better within it class..
This D46T is different class, not even better than Exora.. It for those Toyota wannabe..It might steal Persona market but not Exora.
Cheers..
where is the spare tyre…..?
the back seats are meant for pets (ie. dogs) according to one of the jap brochures. muahahaha. the crash test?
[quote comment="243329"]Well.. From my past experience.. I gonna bet this MPV will sell more compare to Exora.. Who want to bet with me?
Even until now the BLM SAGA will cannot win over Myvi sales…[/quote]
Maybe if the EXORA is sold as current specs, but wait for the turbo-engined Exora, then we'll see.
in essence, its a stretched myvi
emm, perodua always had better finishing than proton…
it also have that luxury look interiorly…
that's why, myvi is still selling better than the saga…
ppl want to get better value for every cent of their money spent…
proton exora is okay, but still a bit pricey for a standard malaysian families…
if it is below 70k (around rm65k-70k) im sure they will buy it…
can the bumper fit myvi? hahah looks better than myvi front bumper. i wont compare this car with exora..bcause i'm not going to make myself looks stupid. but i already saw a few exora on the road..the paint job for exora is good..i like the colours. this p2 mpv surely will steals avanza sales..maybe toyota wont sell avanza anymore.
wait until Exora with CPS 1.6 turbo comes out..
U U MEAN THIS MPV NAME CALL MYVI II
alansmithz, give me 5 man u got d same view as me too which i saw 1 x mpv
on the road really looks bit like coffin car from d side. i even saw 1 x mpv
parked beside naza ria which is almost same height but narrower than ria.
as for this p2 mpv i would hold my money to coz it'll b cheaper, better looking
& fuel efficient. i am confident & bet this p2 mpv would outsell X mpv, any 1
wanna bet with me? Paul u b the witness.
Its interior is cramped and not suitable to fit 3 adults on the 2nd row. Suitable for young families who need the flexibility to load baby strollers and other tall stuffs. Definitely not comfortable to fit in 7 people for a balik kampung journey.
Well, the market is there, and it will be a tough competitor for the Exora, despite the Exora belongs on the higher segment (Rondo etc).
The most magical thing about Perodua is how it managed to built its customer's trust & loyalty, and improve its brand image. Just look at the overpriced Viva, people still buy it more compared to the Saga, despite the latter has a bigger boot, bigger engine, ride, handling & better space. The Kancil/Kelisa owners upgrade to Myvi. And the Myvi owners will probably upgrade to this MPV.
[quote comment="243372"]Another AVANZA lookalike MPV
Perodua finally has to reveal the exterior look because ppl knew oredi perodua just rebadge a passo sette/luminas and ppl know how it looks like . ppl can find it on the internet.
they even don't dare to show 3rd seat, luggage space and 3rd row aircond got or not..?? got crash test rated ??
we know 3rd row aircond is very important to malaysian..
from the spec.. This mpv using similar AVANZA 1.5 engine.. exterior size: same height, narrower and 20mm longer than AVANZA.. so conclusion.. it is just AVANZA ish and side profile of AVANZA is much better than this MPVthe rear of side profile looks funny.. almost 90 degr
Avanza potential buyer will go for this MPV…
Exora attract more towards Bigger MPV like livina,Easter, Rondo or Innova potential buyer
and i heard the tentative price has increased RM65k~75K.. is that true???
they want to cheat ppl again?? last time they claimed this MPV is WISH lookalike.. but end up with AVANZA lookalike
prrrfthhhh[/quote]
Man, I think u better apply for work with Proton or some media consultant , you're damn creative in story telling with your own conclusion too. You can see the future too (you'll be king at Sales & Marketing!!!)
By the way, I hope you've also predict Myvi will outsell all Proton models when it's first lauched.
What do you do for a living?????
[quote comment="243419"]Its interior is cramped and not suitable to fit 3 adults on the 2nd row. Suitable for young families who need the flexibility to load baby strollers and other tall stuffs. Definitely not comfortable to fit in 7 people for a balik kampung journey.
Well, the market is there, and it will be a tough competitor for the Exora, despite the Exora belongs on the higher segment (Rondo etc).
The most magical thing about Perodua is how it managed to built its customer's trust & loyalty, and improve its brand image. Just look at the overpriced Viva, people still buy it more compared to the Saga, despite the latter has a bigger boot, bigger engine, ride, handling & better space. The Kancil/Kelisa owners upgrade to Myvi. And the Myvi owners will probably upgrade to this MPV.[/quote]
Viva can sell because of (here is the simple fact & really not a top secret!!) it's superior fuel efficiency. Agree??? No one buy Viva for it's acre of space or superb handling. By the way, I have driven one & it's pretty nimble & hold the road quite well. It's easy to drive & park too. Just my 2 cents.
[quote comment="243376"]Truly no soul…Those who said this car is better than Exora, who are you???Car tester?? This not even test drive yet and you have already comment about it..
1st, I have friend who is Perodua car tester and already benchmarking Exora. He said at speed 170km/h, Exora still safe to drive and steady. During he test Exora downhill Genting, it has better engine braking (Low Gear)..Exora is better within it class..
This D46T is different class, not even better than Exora.. It for those Toyota wannabe..It might steal Persona market but not Exora.
Cheers..[/quote]
Who the hack do 170km/h everyday of their life??? In an MPV too. He must be a pycho or don't mind paying the saman. Well, if they can afford the saman, they won't buy Exora. They can afford more well built & luxury MPV. ha ha!!!!!! Out of touch with the real world.
ya agree to normal
I will consider this car as 5 seater than 7 seater. The last row will be just left incase needed only.
MPV market is getting hotter, but i still don't like beige interior although it look high class but easy get dirty for me.
Yup, that's right! Ask those people which drive both Perodua & Proton cars and ask them want to buy another Proton or Perodua? Do a survey and i gonna say that Perodua have better result. (If not why their sales are leading now?)
I wonder did some of the Proton supporters here are being paid to be? Hmm… Seeing the economy bad, i think Perodua will snatch Proton sales even further as they will price this babe lower than Exora. Even their space is less in the third row, did any adults like to seat at the back?!? Mostly even Exora third row are seated by KIDS! Think rationally! Almost 70% of MPV nowadays for third row are seated by KIDS and not adults! Even those estima & alphad, most adults also seating on the middle & front row. If want to say FC, do you think Exora FC will be better compare to this MPV?
So when Perodua sales manage to win, some of you all will say different class maa… Same excuse every time.. Even Proton make losses, aya.. still very young.. So? In the end who rugi, our tax money & your pocket money again? Just like what Tun.M said, "Melayu mudah lupa.." Lupa tentang Proton dibina dengan wang rakyat! Sampai sekarang untung atau tidak? Mana negara punya automotive dibina dengan wang rakyat kerajaan, sampai 20 tahun masih rugi? Bangunlah…
1st, it's in a different class. Cant understand y ppl keeping arguing n mayb eventually fighting for the name 'tis is better thn the other one'…juz bcuz they're priced similarly?..yo~thnk clearly lar..it's bcuz perodua has 2 pay 4 all de tecchnology n design 'borrowed' frm toyota..this is wat makes the car xpensive..take a look at Nautica..thn u'll understand wat i mean..
2ndly, competition is always good for car makers as they'll do harder n do more 2 make ppl keep buying their stuff…look at how proton make persona using Gen2 platform..BRILLIANT n tat's how big company works!..Keep it up Proton..you're our pride if u can make good cars n big profit at de same time..
but i'm glad we all fight 2 decide whc car is better…tat means we all care for our national car makers n mayb our country..cheers!
[quote comment="243419"]
The most magical thing about Perodua is how it managed to built its customer's trust & loyalty, and improve its brand image. Just look at the overpriced Viva, people still buy it more compared to the Saga, despite the latter has a bigger boot, bigger engine, ride, handling & better space. The Kancil/Kelisa owners upgrade to Myvi. And the Myvi owners will probably upgrade to this MPV.[/quote]
Saga sold more than Viva.
People is buying the best badge and they should not be blamed for that.
[quote comment="243416"]alansmithz, give me 5 man u got d same view as me too which i saw 1 x mpv
on the road really looks bit like coffin car from d side. i even saw 1 x mpv
parked beside naza ria which is almost same height but narrower than ria.
as for this p2 mpv i would hold my money to coz it'll b cheaper, better looking
& fuel efficient. i am confident & bet this p2 mpv would outsell X mpv, any 1
wanna bet with me? Paul u b the witness.[/quote]
No offence dude… you sound like typical salesman.
How much you can give discount for this P2 MPV???
Just asking…. :)
I like the sport rim and the interior, except the 3rd row seat. overall looks good in CGI. Hope proton put Exora 1.6 CPS turbo in November and the price it at RM79,888. How about that… good strategy?
The real product picture already out, why still want those undisguised pictures? Maybe to make hatred between fan and basher spawning, nice!!!
perodua will fail , perodua fans watch out. die like their nautika!!!!!
What? Toyota dan Daihatsu/Perodua worried about Malaysian built Exora? It can't be! I thought they are far superior?
Paul, is it you or Perodua that claims it is a '7 seater'? Don't mislead potential buyers – it is a 5 + 2 seater. The 2 seater is for pets and pygmies.
just another celup car
ive been waiting long 4 the p2 to produce a car on its own..
i mean at least own design, which means own identity..
credits 4 proton though..
they r brave enough to do the job by themselves..
even fit their latest cars with own engine..
[quote comment="243432"][quote comment="243376"]Truly no soul…Those who said this car is better than Exora, who are you???Car tester?? This not even test drive yet and you have already comment about it..
1st, I have friend who is Perodua car tester and already benchmarking Exora. He said at speed 170km/h, Exora still safe to drive and steady. During he test Exora downhill Genting, it has better engine braking (Low Gear)..Exora is better within it class..
This D46T is different class, not even better than Exora.. It for those Toyota wannabe..It might steal Persona market but not Exora.
Cheers..[/quote]
Who the hack do 170km/h everyday of their life??? In an MPV too. He must be a pycho or don't mind paying the saman. Well, if they can afford the saman, they won't buy Exora. They can afford more well built & luxury MPV. ha ha!!!!!! Out of touch with the real world.[/quote]
imagine for a moment if a vehicle can do 170km/h safely. That same vehicle would definitely have a higher margin for safety and stability at 110km/h as compared to say a vehicle which is already at its limits at 140km/h.
round 1: blm vs myvi (myvi wins), in fact blm barely manages to outsell the
Viva!! (oni 400 cars more, NST 7/6/09)
round 2: exora vs d46T (for sure d46T) wins. Its trump card is gonna be
Toyota tech, better build quality, power/weight ratio and price.
[quote comment="243449"]perodua will fail , perodua fans watch out. die like their nautika!!!!![/quote]
the reason why no one bought nautica is because toyota rush is exactly the same except for short wheelbase and 2 wheel drive, the rest is the same and its 10 k cheaper…people will start thinking 'so why pay extra 10 k for a perodua'
its just like there not much yaris on the road because toyota brought it in late [after myvi] myvi is 50 k, yaris is almost 95+…why buy yaris when u can get a toyota at half the price
here its different…comparing this with exora, i think this has the upper hand..the design is sleeker esp the rear part compared to exora…even the interior is much neater and looks classy..
anyway we'll just have to wait and see…=)
[quote comment="243449"]perodua will fail , perodua fans watch out. die like their nautika!!!!![/quote]
lol… I almost forgot that Perodua have Nautica… most rare car.
THANKS PERODUA,
coz the Toyota Avanza sales will drop.. good strategy.
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i still prefer Exora, manual transmission is coming out. so far only minor comment from current Exora's user.. my friend that an owner of exora said, the FC quiet ok after 1st service, can get 18cent per km. just imagine if we use manual..hmmm..
Myvi Panjang!!… he4..
i like the interior though…
freaking UGLY..! I think Proton will win..
Dont put 1.6cps turbo in exora please…put that force induction engine in sports segment car a.k.a Satria Neo…Instead of putting turbo..why not make Exora's engine bigger cc? 1.8 @ 2.0 CPS should do..dont put the same engine in different car bcoz ppl will get bored and the engine will look normal..no speaciality in that engine..
Proton :
Normal 1.6 CPS for Gen2 and Persona .
Make 1.3 CPS for Saga.
1.6 CPS Turbo in Satria Neo ( This Will Be A Very Hot Hatch ) .
1.8 @ 2.0 CPS For Exora.
Perodua :
Teach Proton's Quality Control to do a better job =.="
please be considerate to the feelings of pets and pygmies ;)
[quote comment="243463"]Dont put 1.6cps turbo in exora please…put that force induction engine in sports segment car a.k.a Satria Neo…Instead of putting turbo..why not make Exora's engine bigger cc? 1.8 @ 2.0 CPS should do..dont put the same engine in different car bcoz ppl will get bored and the engine will look normal..no speaciality in that engine..[/quote]
try to expand your thinking dude. forced induction isn't just for sporty cars anymore, and hasnt been for many years now. mercedes and volvo has been doing it for a while now, and now the french, and also the germans. its now the trend to force induct smaller engines to mimic a larger cc engine. there are many benefits like smaller cc cars being in a lower tax bracket, lighter weight, to lower emissions..etc. vw has a great application with their 1.4 twin charge engine, which they use in 7 seater mpv application.
off topic,
but still about mpv, the question is, is citra 1 facelift with vvt engine?
the price at 60s k.
anybody know?
proton is a better MPV
perodua cheaper ? of course… for people who can't work hard enough to own a better car…
thats why…
poor people…
did P2 do a safety crash test on this MPV? I know Toyota did for their Passo Sette. how bout P2?
3rd row look a bit cramp. this would be like P1 Juara before. so P2 would be Naib Juara …
nice car!! nice than proton exora…some more cheap! max price rm66k….most proton car is for goverment use…not for us rakyat! rakyat use produa…kakaka
[quote comment="243466"][quote comment="243463"]Dont put 1.6cps turbo in exora please…put that force induction engine in sports segment car a.k.a Satria Neo…Instead of putting turbo..why not make Exora's engine bigger cc? 1.8 @ 2.0 CPS should do..dont put the same engine in different car bcoz ppl will get bored and the engine will look normal..no speaciality in that engine..[/quote]
try to expand your thinking dude. forced induction isn't just for sporty cars anymore, and hasnt been for many years now. mercedes and volvo has been doing it for a while now, and now the french, and also the germans. its now the trend to force induct smaller engines to mimic a larger cc engine. there are many benefits like smaller cc cars being in a lower tax bracket, lighter weight, to lower emissions..etc. vw has a great application with their 1.4 twin charge engine, which they use in 7 seater mpv application.[/quote]
I do noe that but if the same engine goes to all Proton's car..will it be interesting? I dont think so..
[quote comment="243471"][quote comment="243466"][quote comment="243463"]Dont put 1.6cps turbo in exora please…put that force induction engine in sports segment car a.k.a Satria Neo…Instead of putting turbo..why not make Exora's engine bigger cc? 1.8 @ 2.0 CPS should do..dont put the same engine in different car bcoz ppl will get bored and the engine will look normal..no speaciality in that engine..[/quote]
try to expand your thinking dude. forced induction isn't just for sporty cars anymore, and hasnt been for many years now. mercedes and volvo has been doing it for a while now, and now the french, and also the germans. its now the trend to force induct smaller engines to mimic a larger cc engine. there are many benefits like smaller cc cars being in a lower tax bracket, lighter weight, to lower emissions..etc. vw has a great application with their 1.4 twin charge engine, which they use in 7 seater mpv application.[/quote]
I do noe that but if the same engine goes to all Proton's car..will it be interesting? I dont think so..[/quote]
Take a look now…Gen-2,Waja , Exora and Satria Neo all use CPS..CPS name has become normal. It's supposed to be premium engine..
Haiyo. Whats the point? Its like a myvi with a longer body. P2's job is only to facelift the car and it still looks very identical to the original car. Truly no soul. The rear seats is to put your pets and barang2.. And i absolutely cant stand any car with a centre console meter.
What will they call this now? First MyVI. Then ViVA. This one VAI-VI? Adoi..
Kita senang lupa, lupa proton dibina dengan wang kita. Sila jangan beli kereta perodua, tolonglah beli kereta proton, gunakan wang anda sewajahnya untuk menolong kilang kereta kita(ingat, proton kamu punya juga, jangan tak ingat, proton dibina dengan duit kamu juga, jangan tak beli, nanti kamu lugi).
Don't buy both.Both manufacturer are crap.Malaysia can't make good car,owned both brand before,still sux!Proton no quality and Peroduo no comfort.
[quote comment="243468"]proton is a better MPV
perodua cheaper ? of course… for people who can't work hard enough to own a better car…
thats why…
poor people…[/quote]
The strange thing is, these ppl can work even harder to please the Japanese's pocket. Buying a Perodua to them is like buying a T at a steal.
Moh… It's bloody boring to argue with these T fanboys…
Btw, in case u misunderstood, szw, you're not a T fanboy in my eyes :) It's some of the commenters above ours…
ZZzzzz……
The reason why Daihatsu still survive is because of Perodua and Astra-Daihatsu (Indonesian car maker who build Toyota Kijang) ..In Japan, market for Daihatsu is always overshadowed by Toyota brand and they can't make profit even in their homeland..
By merging with Daihatsu, Perodua need to pay royalties, advisor fees, R&D, training and many more. And guess, where all of this money comes?? Yes, it should be taxpayer money a.k.a OUR MONEY.
One more thing, you will not seen Perodua own design car until the world end, because of this bloody sucker Japanese company..
Cheers…
[quote comment="243482"]The reason why Daihatsu still survive is because of Perodua and Astra-Daihatsu (Indonesian car maker who build Toyota Kijang) ..In Japan, market for Daihatsu is always overshadowed by Toyota brand and they can't make profit even in their homeland..
By merging with Daihatsu, Perodua need to pay royalties, advisor fees, R&D, training and many more. And guess, where all of this money comes?? Yes, it should be taxpayer money a.k.a OUR MONEY.
One more thing, you will not seen Perodua own design car until the world end, because of this bloody sucker Japanese company..
Cheers…[/quote]
I somehow agree with you..
Haha!!! " So Hai " baru beli tis stupid car !!! Think twice b4 buy tis perodua mpv !!! peroDUA always Nombor 2 !!!
Littlefire said,
June 6, 2009 @ 10:59 pm · Quote
Well.. From my past experience.. I gonna bet this MPV will sell more compare to Exora.. Who want to bet with me?
Even until now the BLM SAGA will cannot win over Myvi sales…
Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/06/06/perodua-mp…
U better sit well & open big ur eyes look SAGA sure beat MYVI very soon !!!
will perodua steal market from toyota if it reduces the sales of avanza and vios,because it is cheaper than both and has a 1.5 liter engine?Malaysian are brand concious , if perodua is cheaper than toyota , people would rather buy the passo and save money and get the same reliability.?????
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
soooooooooooooooooo
lateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
novemberrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
i understand tokmoh…
no worries, cheers
To Perodua,
It is best if you guys do some homeworks before launching this mpv. Make sure this product really meant for the buyers, not for the guine pigs.
Please make sure the features and benefits which buyers are looking for are added in and it must be the best in it's class in every aspect. Such as price, third row air cond, luggage space, fuel consumption, performance, safety, entertainment devices and other qualities issues.
Pls reduce and minimize the things buyer do not want.
if you can do it. then, perodua will b no 1. cheers
guys? any naming contest?
if i got this mpv, i will sell it on the spot, pay for the deposit for Neo CPS :) hehe..
hope they will use the good name, not like NAUTICA = NAUGHTY CAR..
Maybe after:
kancil,
rusa,
kelisa,
kembara,
Myvi
Bibah..
nautika.
—it should be hmmm… Perodua Rubisa.. hehe.. i keep SA at the end and RU in front because Perodua already have MPV Rusa rite?
Perodua Rubisa… vote for me.. !!
I always thought that when Perodua was introduced back in the nineties , it was suppose to build small cars 1,000 cc and below.
Dont argue, just buy both XD
i alwiz laughing when read all the comments relating proton n perodua topic…grow up duse..plz gv a constructive comment..not a war btween proton n perodua…plz move on
i alwiz laughing when read all the comments relating proton n perodua topic…grow up dude..plz gv a constructive comment..not a war btween proton n perodua…plz move on
For a MPV, you said that 170km/h is still steady? I really doubt that.
wat la u guys,fighting every time pending launch…cukup2 la kawan2…kite 1malaysia wat,multiracial community..why can't we let all the car coexist la..macam PM speech la like this..heh
btw,i think both exora and this p2 mpv are good cars…some will like,some will hate..but please la don't jump to conclusion b4 launch..no point wat?who has actually drove both car?have u Paul? ;>
its all down to personal preferences,some buy 4 the sake of nationalism(heh..),some will buy bcoz thats all they can afford…tell me one perfect car/mpv that will satisfy all needs of malaysian driver?if got one,definitely only has one brand of japanese car..
cheers!
Haiyo… just buy the car u like~
Why cares so much on what car other people will buy?
if u like Exora so much, then just buy it….
if u like this P2, so call MPV… just buy lah…..
If u r rich enough, just buy both lah~ (if rich, wont consider both of these car at all)….
both Proton or Perodua cars are for poor people or low income people….
Who salah? our boss lah pay us so low salary!!!!
proton and perodua are all interested to kill each other in our very small market. grow up and ask yourself why after 25 years proton still cannot penetrate all the RHD markets in the world while perodua should be completely ashamed of themselves. their engineers are mere re-badgers.
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uyiopo said,
June 7, 2009 @ 9:34 pm · Quote
For a MPV, you said that 170km/h is still steady? I really doubt that.
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why U want bring 7 ppl travelling at 170km/hr? (straight go Hell?)
when speed limit here is 90km/hr (Miri, Sarawak)…. -_-"
(i only go until 110km/hr niah with an under power kelisa… Sad….. )
Karma's a bitch! Savvy is a damn good car and the 'sampan-handling', 'bootylicious' Myvi steals the market by launching it earlier. Exora has much better specifications, bigger space and better handling than this 'midget' MPV-wannabe from Perodua.
whats the point of driving when you cant own 1?!! proton = piece of shit!! becos of proton we malaysians have to suffer!! this is against human rights!! perodua better proton, why? becos they bother to understand malaysians who need quality, safer, more affordable cars so they bother to use toyota cars and make it their own! though not original at all, but it works!! I wish proton sales tumble and malaysians should boycott proton products so it collapse and G should not revive it, and do away with the import taxes for the betterment of our country and most importantly, the people who voices out their opinions and pains, malaysians. shit on ya proton!!
[quote comment="243364"]I saw some Exoras on the road this week (finally!!!….).
Well, honestly, Exora look better in the showroom close-up than from a distance (on the road). In the real world, Exora look like an oversize box & the rear really too high. It make Toyota Wish look like a sport car ha ha!!. Anyone with the same view?? This Perodua MPV look better & more streamline from the side compare to Exora. The Exora rear really let it down. Maybe this is Proton overreaction to Gen2 old criticism of the poor rear headroom…..unfortunately they overdid it untill they compromised the overall side profile design…Malang tidak berbau…[/quote]
kat mane yg baru hg tengok exora….. kt sini dah dekat berpuluh dah kuar (tpg)….
tp rsenye exora still my choice la…. tengok p2 mpv nh…. eeeeemmmmm…….tengok pun dah mcm …….sempit sangt…….
nak bandingkan dengan wish…. ala kwn, p1 kan amik platform wish je…..
bukan rebarding jename 2….. apalaaaaa….. lain la mcm p2…….perodua nautika=toyota rush short version………..perodua mpv=toyota passo satte untuk malaysia…….dah kompom2 dia anak syarikat toyota + daihatsu…
setakat amik model lain lepas 2 tampal logo sendiri……..ntah a….
mmg a untung banyak tapi x d pembaharuan ………..
[quote comment="243502"]wat la u guys,fighting every time pending launch…cukup2 la kawan2…kite 1malaysia wat,multiracial community..why can't we let all the car coexist la..macam PM speech la like this..heh
btw,i think both exora and this p2 mpv are good cars…some will like,some will hate..but please la don't jump to conclusion b4 launch..no point wat?who has actually drove both car?have u Paul? ;>
its all down to personal preferences,some buy 4 the sake of nationalism(heh..),some will buy bcoz thats all they can afford…tell me one perfect car/mpv that will satisfy all needs of malaysian driver?if got one,definitely only has one brand of japanese car..
cheers![/quote]
That's true bro, The only MPV that satisfy me is Mazda MPV a.k.a Mazda 8..I dunno why…Those doesn't believe Exora still steady at 170km/h, book a test drive and test it in Litar Sepang or Linkedua..u will noe :)
c'mon guys…its really a rebadge car frm daihatsu/toyota..this design really are frm those japanese not m'sian..nw we are having a buy-a-local-goods campaign, if u bought a perodua MPV, it jux considered as a 50-50 japanese and m'sian product, not a fully local goods..
Although frm the past few months, Myvi is taking over the market, do u guys knw y? because myvi is japanese ideas n design, so obviously ppl will buy more car that are kinda-related to "outstation's"..dis are wat we m'sian will do..Toyota Passo Sette = Foreign car = Perodua MPV..so m'sian will buy lo…
Sweat~!
[quote comment="243505"]Haiyo… just buy the car u like~
Why cares so much on what car other people will buy?
if u like Exora so much, then just buy it….
if u like this P2, so call MPV… just buy lah…..
If u r rich enough, just buy both lah~ (if rich, wont consider both of these car at all)….
both Proton or Perodua cars are for poor people or low income people….
Who salah? our boss lah pay us so low salary!!!![/quote]
if i rich i buy others la, wont waste my money 2 support both p1 n p2….
as p1 n p2 exist in m'sian is becox of us la…they thought we poor n no money buy toyota/nissan/mazda/mitsubishi…on the other word, those customs also blood thirsty 1..if they dun tax those foreign car so much, haha, p1 n p2 bankrap d..we all drive toyota or some drive mercedez no matter how poor we are…m i rite??
[quote comment="243329"]Well.. From my past experience.. I gonna bet this MPV will sell more compare to Exora.. Who want to bet with me?
Even until now the BLM SAGA will cannot win over Myvi sales…[/quote]
walauwei… saga blm sales already win over viva sales over 2 month.. see the graph at motortrader??
I personally feel that Toyota/ Daihatsu engine is very efficient and agile to pull the intended body/ model they want to sell. Even at comparatively lower cc, the engine works pretty well. That probably comes with experience and level of technology. Now Perodua is riding on this advantage.
Design wise, its very subjective to comment. I do like the Japanese design but the Exora curves and lines is stylish in its own way. Here, I see both D46T and Exora are equally stylish.
However I dont think it is necessary to do a comprehensive gimmick and unnecessary teaser as most have already known the origin of this model.
The head lamp looks like a Mazda 5
[quote comment="243513"]whats the point of driving when you cant own 1?!! proton = piece of shit!! becos of proton we malaysians have to suffer!! this is against human rights!! perodua better proton, why? becos they bother to understand malaysians who need quality, safer, more affordable cars so they bother to use toyota cars and make it their own! though not original at all, but it works!! I wish proton sales tumble and malaysians should boycott proton products so it collapse and G should not revive it, and do away with the import taxes for the betterment of our country and most importantly, the people who voices out their opinions and pains, malaysians. shit on ya proton!![/quote]
Perodua is even a bigger piece of shit lately! If you check on perodua autoworld forum, there's tons of QC problems with Myvi. For that kinda of lousy rebadging exercise and 'bootylicious' engineering of Myvi, I rather walk than be seen dead in a tongkang-handling Myvi.
[quote comment="243513"]whats the point of driving when you cant own 1?!! proton = piece of shit!! becos of proton we malaysians have to suffer!! this is against human rights!! perodua better proton, why? becos they bother to understand malaysians who need quality, safer, more affordable cars so they bother to use toyota cars and make it their own! though not original at all, but it works!! I wish proton sales tumble and malaysians should boycott proton products so it collapse and G should not revive it, and do away with the import taxes for the betterment of our country and most importantly, the people who voices out their opinions and pains, malaysians. shit on ya proton!![/quote]
Go on with ur dream when P1 down, 10k of P1 worker lose their job hundred of supplier close down (another 10k lose their job) and Billion of tax which spend on P1 Facility throw in deep blue sea. Economy go down and the fcking money rate like indonesia money than time u want afford one Honda 70cc also a big problem.
Come on even i love proton more than P2 i also no bash like this k. Pls bash on fact and not suka suka take out ur senapang babi hutan and tembak randomly. If Shoot on target still nvm but this one don't shoot till where which drag innocent victim ==
Buy what suite your need that u can affordable.
[quote comment="243492"]guys? any naming contest?
if i got this mpv, i will sell it on the spot, pay for the deposit for Neo CPS :) hehe..
hope they will use the good name, not like NAUTICA = NAUGHTY CAR..
Maybe after:
kancil,
rusa,
kelisa,
kembara,
Myvi
Bibah..
nautika.
—it should be hmmm… Perodua Rubisa.. hehe.. i keep SA at the end and RU in front because Perodua already have MPV Rusa rite?
Perodua Rubisa… vote for me.. !![/quote]
Perodua Rubisa? If that's going to be the name, I can see another name oredi…the Perodua Rubbish-a! Hahaha!
Perodua Sampaha also OK.
P2 now just a profit maker proxy for Daihatsu & Toyota. It's not like their early establish before. They don't care much what they giving peoples.
Well.. it's already because some people blinded by the badge.
Nah~
I think the name will be Rubiah~ (indonesia money unit)….
means it is cheap car for poor ppl…. -_-"
Naming contest ..
JP:Toyota Passo Sette ~ MY:Perodua Myvi Satay.. LOL
Anyway, can this car fit the K3-VET? The turbo engine from the Daihatsu YRV..
looks like myvi..
dun compare with exora la…both of them are good actually..
u want to compare chocolate cake with sponge cake…how can?
personally, i dun like this new design…just wait for extended exora..hahaha
[quote comment="243521"][quote comment="243329"]Well.. From my past experience.. I gonna bet this MPV will sell more compare to Exora.. Who want to bet with me?
Even until now the BLM SAGA will cannot win over Myvi sales…[/quote]
walauwei… saga blm sales already win over viva sales over 2 month.. see the graph at motortrader??[/quote]
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littlefire, malaysian no more want to buy viva, so they buy myvi. thats why myvi still available. but some malaysian choose saga blm for larger boot space, comfort better than myvi. now i rarely found Viva on the road esp in the city, mostly new Saga, also in the highway, saga BLM can smoke your Myvi..!! take that Littlefire..hahaha
[quote comment="243338"][quote comment="243335"]the last picture looks so funny….so tight…sitting like a frog[/quote]
actually only frog can seat comfortably than human.[/quote]
like that can mati katak la..
[quote comment="243440"]Yup, that's right! Ask those people which drive both Perodua & Proton cars and ask them want to buy another Proton or Perodua? Do a survey and i gonna say that Perodua have better result. (If not why their sales are leading now?)
I wonder did some of the Proton supporters here are being paid to be? Hmm… Seeing the economy bad, i think Perodua will snatch Proton sales even further as they will price this babe lower than Exora. Even their space is less in the third row, did any adults like to seat at the back?!? Mostly even Exora third row are seated by KIDS! Think rationally! Almost 70% of MPV nowadays for third row are seated by KIDS and not adults! Even those estima & alphad, most adults also seating on the middle & front row. If want to say FC, do you think Exora FC will be better compare to this MPV?
So when Perodua sales manage to win, some of you all will say different class maa… Same excuse every time.. Even Proton make losses, aya.. still very young.. So? In the end who rugi, our tax money & your pocket money again? Just like what Tun.M said, "Melayu mudah lupa.." Lupa tentang Proton dibina dengan wang rakyat! Sampai sekarang untung atau tidak? Mana negara punya automotive dibina dengan wang rakyat kerajaan, sampai 20 tahun masih rugi? Bangunlah…[/quote]
Littlefire , you're taliking damn crap. I agree with you at one point as currently P1 is fluctating but let's look to bigger scope. I don't want to tell you again what is the purpose of Proton's establishment. You know it is for increase employment in Malaysia in fact nearly 100K people whether direct on indirectly doing business with P1. Yes you can say if we don't have Proton, Malaysian can still work with CKD Japs and Europe marque but do you know the effect for long term?
Malaysia economy is an open economy where we currently using the advantages of natural resource such as mining and O&G (thank god for all the bounties) to woo the foreign investor. Labour cost remain cheap here as government still hold the ringgit at low value to remain competitive. It’s at least works for time being as we still need them to create employment to Malaysian. In fact manufacturing industry still 60% hold by foreigners.
At the same time, while the investor giving job to Malaysian, we need to develop as many as we can local companies that can give jobs to Malaysian. Proton, Petronas, Telekom is few instances but we need more. If local company is capable to create job for all Malaysian or at least 90%, (indirectly mean more money circulating within our country and less many out) then Government can increase ringgit value at least same with Singapore Dollar. From that time, we got higher purchasing power and we will become investor in other country. Japan did it 50 years and Singapore did it years back!
So Littlefire, may you won’t taste when that time comes. But you descendent does and deserve it. When Malaysian become investor and many just visit UK or America just like visit Sabah or Melaka because the heightened purchasing power. So if you want P1 collapse than go ahead. Your descendent will be more harder than you’re expected.
[quote comment="243529"][quote comment="243513"]whats the point of driving when you cant own 1?!! proton = piece of shit!! becos of proton we malaysians have to suffer!! this is against human rights!! perodua better proton, why? becos they bother to understand malaysians who need quality, safer, more affordable cars so they bother to use toyota cars and make it their own! though not original at all, but it works!! I wish proton sales tumble and malaysians should boycott proton products so it collapse and G should not revive it, and do away with the import taxes for the betterment of our country and most importantly, the people who voices out their opinions and pains, malaysians. shit on ya proton!![/quote]
Perodua is even a bigger piece of shit lately! If you check on perodua autoworld forum, there's tons of QC problems with Myvi. For that kinda of lousy rebadging exercise and 'bootylicious' engineering of Myvi, I rather walk than be seen dead in a tongkang-handling Myvi.[/quote]
it is definitely correct…coz im own Myvi…im not bias…peace!!!
[quote comment="243548"][quote comment="243492"]guys? any naming contest?
if i got this mpv, i will sell it on the spot, pay for the deposit for Neo CPS :) hehe..
hope they will use the good name, not like NAUTICA = NAUGHTY CAR..
Maybe after:
kancil,
rusa,
kelisa,
kembara,
Myvi
Bibah..
nautika.
—it should be hmmm… Perodua Rubisa.. hehe.. i keep SA at the end and RU in front because Perodua already have MPV Rusa rite?
Perodua Rubisa… vote for me.. !![/quote]
Perodua Rubisa? If that's going to be the name, I can see another name oredi…the Perodua Rubbish-a! Hahaha![/quote]
since they like to use animal's name, they should it as Perodua Kelibui.
Just wait and see for the launching date on November. Overall looks okay for me. Both Exora and this coming P2 MPV have their own target market.
Salam..
[quote comment="243515"][quote comment="243502"]wat la u guys,fighting every time pending launch…cukup2 la kawan2…kite 1malaysia wat,multiracial community..why can't we let all the car coexist la..macam PM speech la like this..heh
btw,i think both exora and this p2 mpv are good cars…some will like,some will hate..but please la don't jump to conclusion b4 launch..no point wat?who has actually drove both car?have u Paul? ;>
its all down to personal preferences,some buy 4 the sake of nationalism(heh..),some will buy bcoz thats all they can afford…tell me one perfect car/mpv that will satisfy all needs of malaysian driver?if got one,definitely only has one brand of japanese car..
cheers![/quote]
That's true bro, The only MPV that satisfy me is Mazda MPV a.k.a Mazda 8..I dunno why…Those doesn't believe Exora still steady at 170km/h, book a test drive and test it in Litar Sepang or Linkedua..u will noe :)[/quote]
i know why u like mazda 8….. bigger….. have powerful engine……and than………….eemmmmmmmm……….and 1 thing……..the no 8 ………………very ada ngam oooooo…….manyak feng shui………..ada um………others………. .i dont know any more…….even the price tag is high…..but still i like its design…….
about exora…….yeh. it still steady at 170……..i second…
[quote comment="243331"]Perodua does nothing to me nowdays, just a rebadged cars with no soul. Clarkson is finally right (he was wrong before), it's a just some white goods. I hope he blows up this mini-van with dynamites when this thing inevitably went on sale in UK.[/quote]
couldn't put it better. :)
T = D = Perodua = Cars with no soul.
IMO, Proton, in all its infamy and short-comings, at least have the Malaysian soul in their cars.
another rubbish on the road after myvi.
[quote comment="243505"]Haiyo… just buy the car u like~
Why cares so much on what car other people will buy?
if u like Exora so much, then just buy it….
if u like this P2, so call MPV… just buy lah…..
If u r rich enough, just buy both lah~ (if rich, wont consider both of these car at all)….
both Proton or Perodua cars are for poor people or low income people….
Who salah? our boss lah pay us so low salary!!!![/quote]
yea… u re BETUL man.. agreed with u.. our majikan la salah salary so KECIk hehehe..
never miss to drive my exora everyday for almost 2 weeks ………
mannnn…..so damm good to drive…
i dont even care to spent my money on the petrol (i owned ngv gen2) coz better driving experience…
no regret…my kids love the space…
no wonder Malaysia so dirty… rubbish every where (can c Myvi every where)
I agree Myvi really suck at corner….
I have 1 of this rubbish too… Sad…..
Now I have the dick rotor problem… when breaking from 90 km/hr to 0…
Around 50 to 40 km/hr the steering shake like hell…. U can feel the vibration on the front disk brakes…. Sad!!!
My dad bought this rubbish (u said it) bcos it save petrol and enough for personal daily useage….
Sad…. I want the car like honda CIVIC Type R, or the 350z cheaper a bit, or City also can lah…
But… where's the $$$$….. No $$$$ how to buy?
The problem is $$$$$…. all about $$$$…
when u want loan house, car, foods, new hp(RM1 to 2k) + reload hps (got 2)…. tone of money needed….
but Salary still…… -_-'' How?
dashboard design wayyyyyyy better than exora..but space definitely tighter than exora
[quote comment="243629"]no wonder Malaysia so dirty… rubbish every where (can c Myvi every where)
I agree Myvi really suck at corner….
I have 1 of this rubbish too… Sad…..
Now I have the dick rotor problem… when breaking from 90 km/hr to 0…
Around 50 to 40 km/hr the steering shake like hell…. U can feel the vibration on the front disk brakes…. Sad!!!
My dad bought this rubbish (u said it) bcos it save petrol and enough for personal daily useage….
Sad…. I want the car like honda CIVIC Type R, or the 350z cheaper a bit, or City also can lah…
But… where's the $$$$….. No $$$$ how to buy?
The problem is $$$$$…. all about $$$$…
when u want loan house, car, foods, new hp(RM1 to 2k) + reload hps (got 2)…. tone of money needed….
but Salary still…… -_-'' How?[/quote]
Grow up man! How can you talk about Myvi in the same breath as Civic Type R and 350Z? People always dream about the cars they want but don't have the money to buy, like the majority of us here. Why, if i have the big bucks, i won't even touch Japanese cars – it's Bugatti or Pagani for me!
BTW it's DISC brakes not DICK brakes! (It's the thing in your pants).
[quote comment="243492"]guys? any naming contest?
if i got this mpv, i will sell it on the spot, pay for the deposit for Neo CPS :) hehe..
hope they will use the good name, not like NAUTICA = NAUGHTY CAR..
Maybe after:
kancil,
rusa,
kelisa,
kembara,
Myvi
Bibah..
nautika.
—it should be hmmm… Perodua Rubisa.. hehe.. i keep SA at the end and RU in front because Perodua already have MPV Rusa rite?
Perodua Rubisa… vote for me.. !![/quote]
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Nice name.. sure u will won…
[quote comment="243644"][quote comment="243492"]guys? any naming contest?
if i got this mpv, i will sell it on the spot, pay for the deposit for Neo CPS :) hehe..
hope they will use the good name, not like NAUTICA = NAUGHTY CAR..
Maybe after:
kancil,
rusa,
kelisa,
kembara,
Myvi
Bibah..
nautika.
—it should be hmmm… Perodua Rubisa.. hehe.. i keep SA at the end and RU in front because Perodua already have MPV Rusa rite?
Perodua Rubisa… vote for me.. !![/quote]
—————
Nice name.. sure u will won…[/quote]
….
Hmm.. Lady Exora vs Lady Rubisa ? hahaha..
Lady Exora : Enterior nice, comfort, torque 'ngam-ngam' with 1.6cc with 7 adults. can go up to 170kmh steadily. handling by Lotus. Just from Malaysia. Test drive in Malaysia.
Lady Rubisa : Interior nice, slim, still curious with the torque.. still curious with the stability.. but 'she' comes from Japan.. sure HOT Babes.. err, can she live in Malaysia? hehe
hoho.. which lady will u marry with? hehe.. for me i will choose the everlasting 170kmj, puas hati memandu dan berlayar..hehe..:)
[quote comment="243634"]dashboard design wayyyyyyy better than exora..but space definitely tighter than exora[/quote]
yeah… then their 3rd row seat also wayyyyyyyyy better than BMW. Hahahaha
Whatever…, i still think that fugly konek looking Rondo still best buy under 90k, if not overly nationalistic.
[quote comment="243576"][quote comment="243521"][quote comment="243329"]Well.. From my past experience.. I gonna bet this MPV will sell more compare to Exora.. Who want to bet with me?
Even until now the BLM SAGA will cannot win over Myvi sales…[/quote]
walauwei… saga blm sales already win over viva sales over 2 month.. see the graph at motortrader??[/quote]
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littlefire, malaysian no more want to buy viva, so they buy myvi. thats why myvi still available. but some malaysian choose saga blm for larger boot space, comfort better than myvi. now i rarely found Viva on the road esp in the city, mostly new Saga, also in the highway, saga BLM can smoke your Myvi..!! take that Littlefire..hahaha[/quote]
I thought I saw somewhere that Littlefire owning a wira. But he/she is a frustrated owner of wira. Kesian dia, janganlah marah dia kaw-kaw…
Someday he/she will be rich and buy a brand new merz and several P1 for his/her second & 3rd cars.
[quote comment="243654"]
I thought I saw somewhere that Littlefire owning a wira. But he/she is a frustrated owner of wira. Kesian dia, janganlah marah dia kaw-kaw…
Someday he/she will be rich and buy a brand new merz and several P1 for his/her second & 3rd cars.[/quote]
…
my 2001 wira 1.5A GLi still ok after 8 years. engine still ok, no problem at all, still can get 160km/h at 4000rpm++.. FC still ok, i fill rm50 and can get 350km, at 0.14cent per km..
bye bye Exora…
[quote comment="243475"]Kita senang lupa, lupa proton dibina dengan wang kita. Sila jangan beli kereta perodua, tolonglah beli kereta proton, gunakan wang anda sewajahnya untuk menolong kilang kereta kita(ingat, proton kamu punya juga, jangan tak ingat, proton dibina dengan duit kamu juga, jangan tak beli, nanti kamu lugi).[/quote]
haha.
lols.
my money?
otak comes first la bai.
beli kete murah,then about 2 month.
tingkap rosak.lampu brake rosak.
baek beli kete sorong.
cbe pkir
asal honda top kt malaysia
quality bro
then
service
top notch.
simple as that.
[quote comment="243654"][quote comment="243576"][quote comment="243521"][quote comment="243329"]Well.. From my past experience.. I gonna bet this MPV will sell more compare to Exora.. Who want to bet with me?
Even until now the BLM SAGA will cannot win over Myvi sales…[/quote]
walauwei… saga blm sales already win over viva sales over 2 month.. see the graph at motortrader??[/quote]
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littlefire, malaysian no more want to buy viva, so they buy myvi. thats why myvi still available. but some malaysian choose saga blm for larger boot space, comfort better than myvi. now i rarely found Viva on the road esp in the city, mostly new Saga, also in the highway, saga BLM can smoke your Myvi..!! take that Littlefire..hahaha[/quote]
I thought I saw somewhere that Littlefire owning a wira. But he/she is a frustrated owner of wira. Kesian dia, janganlah marah dia kaw-kaw…
Someday he/she will be rich and buy a brand new merz and several P1 for his/her second & 3rd cars.[/quote]
YaLOL, Perodua Myvi/Viva aka downgraded Toyota/Daihatsu to P2 emblem can't compared wit the Proton Saga BLM aka Lotus Saga BLM, don't play play err this is my fist Proton + my fist Lotus2 lerr. Haiyah even the wira also my fist mitsubishi lerr.
Wake Up la Perodua fellow !!! Till now if u still now think perodua is better than proton. I think u r very wrong wrong WRONG !!!!
Perodua produce car to make money only to their pocket but didn't concern the safetly of driver & passenger.
1. Myvi & Kerani = Jangan jatuh longgang drive in corner
2. Kelisa & Viva = Lorry langgar sure habis tak boleh nampak.
Do ur think that u pay so much money to buy these rubbish car ?
[quote comment="243643"]
Grow up man! How can you talk about Myvi in the same breath as Civic Type R and 350Z? People always dream about the cars they want but don't have the money to buy, like the majority of us here. Why, if i have the big bucks, i won't even touch Japanese cars – it's Bugatti or Pagani for me!
BTW it's DISC brakes not DICK brakes! (It's the thing in your pants).[/quote]
I'm sure he meant dick brake… as in dick brake not working well and ended up needing a seven seater.
Hmmm….
So conclusion is Please don't buy this so call MPV….
Just go Proton show room buy Exora?
Ok…. get it…
Thanks for the advice…..very appreciate it….
Thanks…..
[quote comment="243424"][quote comment="243372"]Another AVANZA lookalike MPV
Perodua finally has to reveal the exterior look because ppl knew oredi perodua just rebadge a passo sette/luminas and ppl know how it looks like . ppl can find it on the internet.
they even don't dare to show 3rd seat, luggage space and 3rd row aircond got or not..?? got crash test rated ??
we know 3rd row aircond is very important to malaysian..
from the spec.. This mpv using similar AVANZA 1.5 engine.. exterior size: same height, narrower and 20mm longer than AVANZA.. so conclusion.. it is just AVANZA ish and side profile of AVANZA is much better than this MPVthe rear of side profile looks funny.. almost 90 degr
Avanza potential buyer will go for this MPV…
Exora attract more towards Bigger MPV like livina,Easter, Rondo or Innova potential buyer
and i heard the tentative price has increased RM65k~75K.. is that true???
they want to cheat ppl again?? last time they claimed this MPV is WISH lookalike.. but end up with AVANZA lookalike
prrrfthhhh[/quote]
Man, I think u better apply for work with Proton or some media consultant , you're damn creative in story telling with your own conclusion too. You can see the future too (you'll be king at Sales & Marketing!!!)
By the way, I hope you've also predict Myvi will outsell all Proton models when it's first lauched.
What do you do for a living?????[/quote]
wake up bro.. i even can tell u the spec and interior/exterior dimension of this AVANZA lookalike MPV
this is just a badge car ( or to be exact downgraded version) oredi in market for a year..
and the best part is.. i used to sview this rubbish MPV in my real life in Japan..
i talk with fact and figure here..
when Myvi was released.. yes i can predict it will be a hot cakes.. Why.. because i knew, that time malaysian was stupid and easily conned by "Japanese".. anything related to Japs.. they will praise like hell..
BUT not for now… malaysian smart oredi.. esp after VIVA came to our market.. lots of buyers felt cheated with "japanese touched"
Spec n dimension never lies
exterior
Length: Exora (4592mm), P2 MPV (4180mm), Avanza (4150mm)
Width: Exora (1809mm), P2 MPV (1620mm),Avanza (1630mm)
Height: Exora (1691mm), P2 MPV (1695mm), Avanza (1695mm)
Ground clearance : Exora (155mm), P2 MPV (155mm), Avanza (180mm)
I
Engine : Exora 1.6 (125hp), P2 MPV 1.5(108hp), Avanza (108hp)
Body weight: Exora (1422kg), P2 MPV (1190kg), Avanza (1120kg)
Power to weight : Exora (88bhp/ton), P2 MPV (92bhp/ton), Avanza (96.4bhp/ton)
from the above spec.. we know This MPV is narrower than avanza… but if you see the pic.. P2 try to cheat ppl and shows the MPV is wide and not tall..
but the truth is it is narrower than AVANZA and same height as AVANZA.. so u guys can imagine how it will look like..
speaking of power to weight.. using same 1.5 engine as AVANZA..this MPV is heavier than AVANZA ,that means AVANZA has better power to weight ratio than this rubbish AVANZA lookalike van
prrrfthhh
Perodua make funny statement..
last year their top ppl said upcoming p2 MPV will be WISH looalike design..but end up with AVANZA lookalike design
(blame P1 la.. actually they wanted to design like WISH design.. but not allowed by P1)
prrrfthh
last year their top management said.. this MPV will be launched by Sept.. but end up –Nov 2009
( blame P1 la.. maybe P1 ask to delay..prrrftt)
When P1 released exora.. p2 ppl said their MPV price will be 55~65k,.. but this time at SMIDEC they said 65~75k??
(Blame P1 la.. P1 ask P2 to up their price) prrrfthhh
75k for AVANZA size ??? center meter console like TATA NANO??? no 3rd row air cond??? no crash test rated?? papan lapis 3rd row seat??? sampan handling and Milo tin Body???
sorry..prrrfthh
cool down dude…
lolz !!!
as we know here dis is a rubbish…
haha !!!
don need to over react
cheers mate
[quote comment="243666"][quote comment="243475"]Kita senang lupa, lupa proton dibina dengan wang kita. Sila jangan beli kereta perodua, tolonglah beli kereta proton, gunakan wang anda sewajahnya untuk menolong kilang kereta kita(ingat, proton kamu punya juga, jangan tak ingat, proton dibina dengan duit kamu juga, jangan tak beli, nanti kamu lugi).[/quote]
haha.
lols.
my money?
otak comes first la bai.
beli kete murah,then about 2 month.
tingkap rosak.lampu brake rosak.
baek beli kete sorong.
cbe pkir
asal honda top kt malaysia
quality bro
then
service
top notch.
simple as that.[/quote]
yea and many malaysian choose EXORA coz 'we' like it….'we dont care about the power window,,,small2 prob….FC….etc..
why ? because we dont care what people said…as simple as that…
1 – in autoworld p2 forum too many myvi user got problems with their window.
2 – many of them already tired with their myvi with so many problem now
3 – most of them also agreed myvi is gas guzler!
4 – shaking drive on 110 and getting worst for higher speed.
5 – petrol smelly in the car after full refueling
6 – they already feel very frustrated and cheated
now buy again this p2 mpv.. let be their next frustrated user but shy to accept they're buying only a 'super downgraded version' T or D one.
go! buy this p2 as you love it and…eat yourself later!
no!. im not targeting exora. not proton blind supporter..
i wanna buy an X5 but economy no good now. TQ.
so I just stick to my current one.
hellooo kawan kawan here! no need to argue la. everybody have their own taste just like how we judge a girl.. for u is pretty but for me is gerli. for u is gerli for me is beauty. so, when to stop the war? if u like, u buy lor. For me, i wont buy. that's all. P2 is good in marketing strategy but weak in development! But very strong in redesign plastic parts and change the badges. is this call MANUFACTURER?
another rebadged car.. 'rebadging' of an ugly car.. i'm upset my father replace his old toyota corolla wit a myvi
[quote comment="243445"][quote comment="243416"]alansmithz, give me 5 man u got d same view as me too which i saw 1 x mpv
on the road really looks bit like coffin car from d side. i even saw 1 x mpv
parked beside naza ria which is almost same height but narrower than ria.
as for this p2 mpv i would hold my money to coz it'll b cheaper, better looking
& fuel efficient. i am confident & bet this p2 mpv would outsell X mpv, any 1
wanna bet with me? Paul u b the witness.[/quote]
No offence dude… you sound like typical salesman.
How much you can give discount for this P2 MPV???
Just asking…. :)[/quote]
Ha ha, I design for a living:) P2 MPV, no discount as usual!!!
(My old Iswara left passenger power window lasted just 6 months…after the warranty period…BUT!!!…. The driver side one have lasted 9 yrs!!!!! Ironic…..HA HA!!!!
cibai paul tan
[quote comment="243469"]did P2 do a safety crash test on this MPV? I know Toyota did for their Passo Sette. how bout P2?
3rd row look a bit cramp. this would be like P1 Juara before. so P2 would be Naib Juara …[/quote]
no need laa .. all things done by Toyota .
P2 just need to copy n paste . Saving their r&d cost . When the r&d cost go down , of course they also save the production cost . Thats why they can sell cheaper .
[quote comment="243712"]P2 is good in marketing strategy but weak in development! But very strong in redesign plastic parts and change the badges. is this call MANUFACTURER?[/quote]
Hey dude ,
they not strong enough . P1 also good , sometimes better than P2 . But P2 are lucky bcoz they got better vendor , also got the quality consult from toyota n daihatsu . One more thing , P2 also got soooo manyyy EX-P1 professionale working with them right now .
P2 too clever , not in copy n paste the car .. also in reduce the manpower training cost .
they not guna pancing maaa , they use jala .
p/s : airasia still guna pancing , mas guna jala ( i mean , dato' idris jala ).. within 2 years mas can cover all their loss n making profit .
Reminder:
Perodua R&D = Received and Delivery.
speechless…. :)
LotusLover said,
June 9, 2009 @ 12:30 am · Quote
hellooo kawan kawan here! no need to argue la. everybody have their own taste just like how we judge a girl.. for u is pretty but for me is gerli. for u is gerli for me is beauty. so, when to stop the war? if u like, u buy lor. For me, i wont buy. that’s all. P2 is good in marketing strategy but weak in development! But very strong in redesign plastic parts and change the badges. is this call MANUFACTURER?
______________________________________________________________________________
Agree…. why some ppl so care about what other will buy?
(I think most probably these ppl are the car salesmen who scare to lost the job)
if every ppl must buy P1, u think P1 will improve kah?
They will be selling Wira for another 20 years and no new models at all (If P2 not around)
Bsos P2, so they need to improve their built quality, reliability and price to attract more buyers….
We want both P1 & P2 to improve, if P1 lost….
We lost too…. tone of our money will be wasted like trow into a big black hole….
I had been to the Proton show room to see the exora on the day it lunched, the built quality is good!!!
but, personally will choose the smaller size P2 MPV…. (If it is cheaper "the main reason").
I don't really like long and huge vehicles, bcos not easy to drive when we have narrow and bumpy roads here…. crowed parking space here….
when looking at MPV, i don't care how fast it can go (How u go 170km/hr when all the slow car moving in front of u? plus bumpy road…..)
—————————————————————
U can see Skyline GTR R35 here Miri, Sarawak… (got 2 here one White and one Silver, the guy with silver skyline has a Benz coupe also)
The skylines only action action on accelerate only but didn't go for top speed
(I think the top speed is limited at 180 km/hr only by Nissan)
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So,normal ppl like me just want to care more on family safety (we just want to arrive at destination safely, slower doesn't matter)
If not, none of them I will consider….
From the power site, new Perodua MPV with 1.5 engine sure be better that Exora 1.6 engine, I still think 1.6 engine with 125ps still not enough for Exora, unless the engine can tune to have more torque at low rpm…
Wei… kinda sexy ler… an extra row of seat makes a lot of practical sense.
And that interesting Terminator font.
So the name gonna be? MyVa?
MyVi, Viva, MyVa, get it?
You want to drive japan's car, you buy D46T loh, also can be japanese wannabe mah… you want your national pride, buy exora loh, can tunjuk you can do it.
to bmpower
You should buy D46T, cheap than Exora, good FC and second hand prices. It help you save a lot of yoour poorket money to buy X5 in future.
Actually, this video is 4:3 normal screen, not 16:9 wide screen, who's misstake?
[quote comment="243666"]
haha.
lols.
my money?
otak comes first la bai.
beli kete murah,then about 2 month.
tingkap rosak.lampu brake rosak.
baek beli kete sorong.
cbe pkir
asal honda top kt malaysia
quality bro
then
service
top notch.
simple as that.[/quote]
eh bai.. cepat betul Exora u rosak power window, lampu brake rosak.. betul ke Exora low quality? ko ada Exora ker? kalo xder jgn main cakap je bai.. kita org nakkan bukti.. ada proof ke utk support ur blindly statement ? owner Exora cakap EXORA mereka ok je. Proton siap mintak feedback dari 1000 owner Exora yg terawal ttg masalah Exora mereka, itupun kalo ada… Pusat servis Proton siap follow up customer ttg pengantian hos penyejuk dari coolant ke gearbox utk 1 batch Exora, belum ada yg complain, tapi tukar utk kepuasan pelanggan.. kalo ko maksudkan ttg wira, gen2, savvy dan waja.. sori bai, itu cerita lama, org dah tak pakai lagi (melainkan ko masih duduk di tahun 90an, 2000-2006).. kancil 2nd hand jual RM5k pun org taknak beli dah bai… service top notch? pusat service BMW pun masih ada kurangnya bai…
[quote comment="243576"][quote comment="243521"][quote comment="243329"]Well.. From my past experience.. I gonna bet this MPV will sell more compare to Exora.. Who want to bet with me?
Even until now the BLM SAGA will cannot win over Myvi sales…[/quote]
walauwei… saga blm sales already win over viva sales over 2 month.. see the graph at motortrader??[/quote]
——————-
littlefire, malaysian no more want to buy viva, so they buy myvi. thats why myvi still available. but some malaysian choose saga blm for larger boot space, comfort better than myvi. now i rarely found Viva on the road esp in the city, mostly new Saga, also in the highway, saga BLM can smoke your Myvi..!! take that Littlefire..hahaha[/quote]
hmm..nowadays, i can see more & more savvy otr..
[quote comment="243588"]
since they like to use animal's name, they should it as Perodua Kelibui.[/quote]
Kelibui tu menatang ape?
[quote comment="243594"]
Both Exora and this coming P2 MPV have their own target market.
[/quote]
true.
[quote comment="243687"]
Hmmm….
So conclusion is Please don't buy this so call MPV….
Just go Proton show room buy Exora?
Ok…. get it…
Thanks for the advice…..very appreciate it….
Thanks…..[/quote]
NO, that's not it!
try exora.
try d46t.
then decide :)
[quote comment="243709"]
4 – shaking drive on 110 and getting worst for higher speed.
5 – petrol smelly in the car after full refueling
[/quote]
hehe..i also got this problem with my fiance's myvi.
1. misleading, the pics are distorted.
2. light-colored interior will be on sale?
3. good handling….nah, it's the least thing to be expected.
4. d46t crash test video..where can we car enthusiasts may get a hold on it?
http://www.bincang.net/forum/showthread.php?t=938…
torque between CPS and VVTI engine
Rush Lee said,eh bai.. cepat betul Exora u rosak power window, lampu brake rosak.. betul ke Exora low quality? ko ada Exora ker? kalo xder jgn main cakap je bai.. kita org nakkan bukti.. ada proof ke utk support ur blindly statement ? owner Exora cakap EXORA mereka ok je. Proton siap mintak feedback dari 1000 owner Exora yg terawal ttg masalah Exora mereka, itupun kalo ada… Pusat servis Proton siap follow up customer ttg pengantian hos penyejuk dari coolant ke gearbox utk 1 batch Exora, belum ada yg complain, tapi tukar utk kepuasan pelanggan.. kalo ko maksudkan ttg wira, gen2, savvy dan waja.. sori bai, itu cerita lama, org dah tak pakai lagi (melainkan ko masih duduk di tahun 90an, 2000-2006).. kancil 2nd hand jual RM5k pun org taknak beli dah bai… service top notch? pusat service BMW pun masih ada kurangnya bai…
awak ni memang bodoh, dia tak semestinya kena ada exora.. dia ada R class!
so….R class driver complain about exora…
where the logic…R class and exora both from same manufacturer ke? i drive a kelisa, then i complain about exora power window because my neighbour untie friend of friend of my great grandfather say he heard his collegue nephew untie say that kind of case can alsolah.
saying people bodoh is easy, saying diri sendiri bodoh is much more harder..
[quote comment="243765"]
awak ni memang bodoh, dia tak semestinya kena ada exora.. dia ada R class![/quote]
eh si pandir… pandainya awak panggil sampai panggil org bodoh… tak semestinya dia kena ada exora tapi boleh ngutuk exora? nampak sgt si bashers ni main dgr je cakap org ttg keta proton..
P2 kelibui tu kijang afrika gak. cuma beza kat hidung & ekor je nak bezakannya.
Kita nama kan kete ni Myvi Kebab.. leh?
Tapi tak tau la sedap ke tak kan…
Rush Lee,
I just received my Exora. I am neither a "blind" basher nor a "blind" supporter of P1. If I send to you the pictures of the parts that are defective in the Exora which I could not replace when I sent the MPV for its recent 1,000 km service, will you donate RM1,000 to the Malaysian Association of The Blind (MAB)? The car owners that didn't complain might not mean that they are fully satisfied or happy with the product/service. Sometimes, we feel it is futile to do so. Therefore, it is pointless in gratifying yourself by comparing the service with another makers who also do not provide good service. It's like benchmarking with the bottom of the class. I
f you are a P1 staff, put your ears in the ground and listen to the feedback given no matter how painful or harsh they may be. This will differentiate the winners from the losers. On the whole, the Exora is value for money but there are still nitty gritty details in the MPV that P1 needs to improve in order to stay relevant. It is a well-thought concept but not deep enough.
Going back to the topic, luckily I didn't bother to wait for the P2 D46T. The size of the last row of seats cannot even fit my 10 year old son and it will be too cruel to ask my maid to sit in the back row for more than 10 minutes. The back seats reminded me of the Juara. As for the quality of the parts, I was informed that the vendors at P2 are the same as P1 and therefore the level of quality will be more or less the same. Lastly, don't use words that are hurting to the visionary impaired people because at times, many of them can "see" better than us!!
korg tunggu je dimension MPV P2 nie.
kompem klah ngan exora…
bentuk mpv p2 nie pn x lawa
mcm viva executive…
hehehe jgn marah…
[quote comment="243781"]P2 kelibui tu kijang afrika gak. cuma beza kat hidung & ekor je nak bezakannya.[/quote]
kelibui = schwein?
Like I said before, I thought Perodua was suppose to only produce vehicles 1,000 cc and below while Proton more than 1,000 cc. Now why is it producing vehicles with 1.3 or 1.5 cc???
Suck Car Come With Suck Video !!!
We sure wait u come in tis November & see u how to died !!!
[quote comment="243801"]Like I said before, I thought Perodua was suppose to only produce vehicles 1,000 cc and below while Proton more than 1,000 cc. Now why is it producing vehicles with 1.3 or 1.5 cc???[/quote]
Big mommy T want it to suck up all Malaysian money.
saya empunya myvi 2007…pakai dalam 4000km lebih kurang disc brakes problem…tukar baru tapi tak puas hati bagi saya kereta baru beli dah problem kalau setakat suis window tu kecik jea hal nie bab pasal keselamatan tentang brek..
my father pakai waja 2004 sampai skrg x ade problem tentang disc brek ke,window ke or ape la dan skrg km da sampai 100000km lbh yg problem alarm siren tak bunyi..
bagi saya kereta ape pun same jea…
beli perodua pun same dan proton pun same dah nama kereta…
sdgkan toyota,honda,nissan pun ade problem tapi wat diam jea nak sorok la xxpun owner xkecoh takut malu beli kereta mahal pun rosak.
aiseh…
proton losses are due to economic downturn n development of new models…
for me.. between exora n p2 mpv..
i'll choose neo cps..! hehe
The numbur of Savvy was increasing, 2nd hand Savvy only RM 20K, is better then buy the Kancil and Kelisa.
Don't let your hard earn money sucking by Toyota from Japan as Perodua badge. Buy the Proton's car can save your tax money.
[quote comment="243741"]You want to drive japan's car, you buy D46T loh, also can be japanese wannabe mah… you want your national pride, buy exora loh, can tunjuk you can do it.
to bmpower
You should buy D46T, cheap than Exora, good FC and second hand prices. It help you save a lot of yoour poorket money to buy X5 in future.[/quote]
65~75k for small avanza size is cheap???
good FC?? this MPV using same engine as AVANZA… FC is not selling poit for AVANZA
Good 2nd value??
ppl now smart oredi.. not simply conned by so called "toyota downgrade version".. even viva oso no 2nd value
[quote comment="243734"]From the power site, new Perodua MPV with 1.5 engine sure be better that Exora 1.6 engine, I still think 1.6 engine with 125ps still not enough for Exora, unless the engine can tune to have more torque at low rpm…[/quote]
if u concern about power.. then better buy AVANZA.. it has better power to weight ration than P2 MPV :)
Can't wait for the new macho man,stylish Perodua MPV…I am absolutely sure the price will be rather cheaper than Exora…Personally,i got a proton and perodua cars at home…I am truly impressed with the services and maintenance of Perodua.The spare parts and labour charges extremely cheaper than Proton.There will be no doubt to book for new Perodua MPV as i strongly believe it will be much more to offer than the latest Proton Exora….
[quote comment="243718"][quote comment="243445"][quote comment="243416"]alansmithz, give me 5 man u got d same view as me too which i saw 1 x mpv
on the road really looks bit like coffin car from d side. i even saw 1 x mpv
parked beside naza ria which is almost same height but narrower than ria.
as for this p2 mpv i would hold my money to coz it'll b cheaper, better looking
& fuel efficient. i am confident & bet this p2 mpv would outsell X mpv, any 1
wanna bet with me? Paul u b the witness.[/quote]
No offence dude… you sound like typical salesman.
How much you can give discount for this P2 MPV???
Just asking…. :)[/quote]
Ha ha, I design for a living:) P2 MPV, no discount as usual!!!
(My old Iswara left passenger power window lasted just 6 months…after the warranty period…BUT!!!…. The driver side one have lasted 9 yrs!!!!! Ironic…..HA HA!!!![/quote]
My fren's 2-month-old Mini Cooper S edi got power window problem. What now, Mini Cooper lousier than Proton? Heh.
That wasn't the first time he had bad luck with BMW makes too. His mom drives E90 320i, after just a few weeks using it, it went to the workshop for 1 year. ONE friggin year, keep on exchanging parts flown from Germany.
The grass is not always greener on the other side.
Btw, it's not that I feel BMW are rubbish, but this should sink into everyone's head, especially T fanboys: "Pobody's nerfect". Perfection is such a pointless thing to brag about, cuz no one but God is one.
Even Paul Tan learnt BMW = Banyak Masuk Workshop / Banyak Makan Wang, kekekeke
[quote comment="243734"]From the power site, new Perodua MPV with 1.5 engine sure be better that Exora 1.6 engine, I still think 1.6 engine with 125ps still not enough for Exora, unless the engine can tune to have more torque at low rpm…[/quote]
What are you, an F1 driver? Just how much torque will satisfy you? Exora is built for family men, not for Nurburgring. Exora 1.6 CPS is just the base model to compete with other base models ie aVANza n grand livina. Relax, Campro 1.6 Turbo is coming next year, and maybe 1.8 or 2.0L. That'll thrash Chery whatwasthename, T Innova n Naza rondo.
Just so you don't know, Campro CPS in Exora has been tuned for better low-end torque. The MD Dato' Syed Zainal edi said he himself go to Genting n it was good. Have you?
hahaha! no wonder topgear staff says proton is the WORST CAR MANUFACTURER IN THE WORLD!! I totally agreed!! And now there is a second! PERODUA!! HAHAHA!!! I hope the CEO of potong and pekosua are reading these!! Its a total SHAME that malaysians are making fun of you!! SHAME SHAME SHAME!!!!!!!!
Dear Rush Lee,
Can u name the defective part? Your statement "The car owners that didn't complain might not mean that they are fully satisfied or happy with the product/service" can u elaborate more? or you just have to visit this forum so u could get direct access with Dato' Syed himself..
http://www.motortrader.com.my/asp/forum/forum.asp…
May be we could change those Proton Edar service quality….
[quote comment="243790"]Rush Lee,
I just received my Exora. I am neither a "blind" basher nor a "blind" supporter of P1. If I send to you the pictures of the parts that are defective in the Exora which I could not replace when I sent the MPV for its recent 1,000 km service, will you donate RM1,000 to the Malaysian Association of The Blind (MAB)? The car owners that didn't complain might not mean that they are fully satisfied or happy with the product/service. Sometimes, we feel it is futile to do so. Therefore, it is pointless in gratifying yourself by comparing the service with another makers who also do not provide good service. It's like benchmarking with the bottom of the class. I
f you are a P1 staff, put your ears in the ground and listen to the feedback given no matter how painful or harsh they may be. This will differentiate the winners from the losers. On the whole, the Exora is value for money but there are still nitty gritty details in the MPV that P1 needs to improve in order to stay relevant. It is a well-thought concept but not deep enough.
Going back to the topic, luckily I didn't bother to wait for the P2 D46T. The size of the last row of seats cannot even fit my 10 year old son and it will be too cruel to ask my maid to sit in the back row for more than 10 minutes. The back seats reminded me of the Juara. As for the quality of the parts, I was informed that the vendors at P2 are the same as P1 and therefore the level of quality will be more or less the same. Lastly, don't use words that are hurting to the visionary impaired people because at times, many of them can "see" better than us!![/quote]
[quote comment="243734"]From the power site, new Perodua MPV with 1.5 engine sure be better that Exora 1.6 engine, I still think 1.6 engine with 125ps still not enough for Exora, unless the engine can tune to have more torque at low rpm…[/quote]
—————–
TALK WITHOUT FACTS LIKE TALK WITH BULLSHIT!!
" I still think 1.6 engine with 125ps… "
VISIT SHOWROOM AND TEST DRIVE FIRST..THEN COME HERE TO COMMENT.. no more "i think". it makes u like DONKEY..
They did actually… until their balls were squeeze by "The D&T hands – so called Invincible hands"… I remember once they were threaten by D&T that D&T will not continue collaboration with P2, until their demands are fulfilled..So that's the true story about P2 encroaching into 1.3 or 1.5 cc class…
[quote comment="243801"]Like I said before, I thought Perodua was suppose to only produce vehicles 1,000 cc and below while Proton more than 1,000 cc. Now why is it producing vehicles with 1.3 or 1.5 cc???[/quote]
wut eva….hampehhhhhh
Say no to kerusi papan crap van
[quote comment="243790"]Rush Lee,
I just received my Exora. I am neither a "blind" basher nor a "blind" supporter of P1. If I send to you the pictures of the parts that are defective in the Exora which I could not replace when I sent the MPV for its recent 1,000 km service, will you donate RM1,000 to the Malaysian Association of The Blind (MAB)? The car owners that didn't complain might not mean that they are fully satisfied or happy with the product/service. Sometimes, we feel it is futile to do so. Therefore, it is pointless in gratifying yourself by comparing the service with another makers who also do not provide good service. It's like benchmarking with the bottom of the class. I
f you are a P1 staff, put your ears in the ground and listen to the feedback given no matter how painful or harsh they may be. This will differentiate the winners from the losers. On the whole, the Exora is value for money but there are still nitty gritty details in the MPV that P1 needs to improve in order to stay relevant. It is a well-thought concept but not deep enough.
Going back to the topic, luckily I didn't bother to wait for the P2 D46T. The size of the last row of seats cannot even fit my 10 year old son and it will be too cruel to ask my maid to sit in the back row for more than 10 minutes. The back seats reminded me of the Juara. As for the quality of the parts, I was informed that the vendors at P2 are the same as P1 and therefore the level of quality will be more or less the same. Lastly, don't use words that are hurting to the visionary impaired people because at times, many of them can "see" better than us!![/quote]
TL Square,
I'm neither a "blind" bashers nor "blind" supporter of P1. P2 D, T and whatsoever. If i give a list of defective parts in the P2 kancil and Myvi that both of my cars currently in use right now, and some of defective part cant be claim even thought it's still under warranty, will you donate RM1,000 to the Malaysian Association of The Blind (MAB)? What made u think that the owner of Exora didn't complain but they not really satisfy with the product or the service? did u ever go to Exora club websites? and read what their perception about Exora?
check this out…
http://prodas.wordpress.com/2009/05/22/compare-ex…
He owned both of MPV's. What the hell on earth this guy comparing Innova and Exora? is the MPV was the same class? why? He's have a good perception on Exora and satisfied with the performance and quality..
Proud owner of Exora
http://funtastickodesign.wordpress.com/2009/05/13…
[quote comment="243748"] Pusat servis Proton siap follow up customer ttg pengantian hos penyejuk dari coolant ke gearbox utk 1 batch Exora, belum ada yg complain, tapi tukar utk kepuasan pelanggan..[/quote]
http://funtastickodesign.wordpress.com/2009/05/18… here is the link…
talks about service, Stiggy want a TOP NOTCH service.. but for sure, even BMW's service in Malaysia also lack of skills..
And FYI… i'm not a Proton staff and whatsoever….. if u r a P2 staff, u should put ur ear on the ground and listen for feedback from a P2 car owners about P2 cars.. 1 of my Myvi's problem was similar with the 1 who use "MYVI OWNER" name.. replaced the brake caliper and the disc under warranty and the problem encountered again at another 10000km… Clutch felt shaking/vibration after engaged 1st gear and every time i push it for gear changing.. cant be replace due to not in warranty list.. power window? yeah, i'm facing power window defect also.. not to mention the problems with my 5 years old kancil.. i had enough with P2 car…
not me la… it's was "TL square" Exora have defective parts that can be claim….
[quote comment="243844"][quote comment="243734"]From the power site, new Perodua MPV with 1.5 engine sure be better that Exora 1.6 engine, I still think 1.6 engine with 125ps still not enough for Exora, unless the engine can tune to have more torque at low rpm…[/quote]
if u concern about power.. then better buy AVANZA.. it has better power to weight ration than P2 MPV :)[/quote]
[quote comment="243850"][quote comment="243734"]From the power site, new Perodua MPV with 1.5 engine sure be better that Exora 1.6 engine, I still think 1.6 engine with 125ps still not enough for Exora, unless the engine can tune to have more torque at low rpm…[/quote]
What are you, an F1 driver? Just how much torque will satisfy you? Exora is built for family men, not for Nurburgring. Exora 1.6 CPS is just the base model to compete with other base models ie aVANza n grand livina. Relax, Campro 1.6 Turbo is coming next year, and maybe 1.8 or 2.0L. That'll thrash Chery whatwasthename, T Innova n Naza rondo.
Just so you don't know, Campro CPS in Exora has been tuned for better low-end torque. The MD Dato' Syed Zainal edi said he himself go to Genting n it was good. Have you?[/quote]
this thing is priced around RM65-76k… hm.. peYno and tokmoh, if this guy asking for a big engine with the small buck, ask him to buy 2009 facelift Citra.. that thing costs around RM64k.. comes with 2.0cc engine and get the sunroof for free… hehe.. i rather buying Citra than this.. CRAMP!!!!!
[quote comment="243842"][quote comment="243741"]You want to drive japan's car, you buy D46T loh, also can be japanese wannabe mah… you want your national pride, buy exora loh, can tunjuk you can do it.
to bmpower
You should buy D46T, cheap than Exora, good FC and second hand prices. It help you save a lot of yoour poorket money to buy X5 in future.[/quote]
65~75k for small avanza size is cheap???
good FC?? this MPV using same engine as AVANZA… FC is not selling poit for AVANZA
Good 2nd value??
ppl now smart oredi.. not simply conned by so called "toyota downgrade version".. even viva oso no 2nd value[/quote]
16.6km/L for MPV not good FC meh? The facts, a 5 years old Myvi manual also sell 30K, you lugi RM 3K per year only. What about Exora? 5 years after 50% off? You lugi 35k. 35K – 15K = 20K. You buy Exora you lugi RM 20K.
Say no to Perodua badge Toyota.
By buying this minivan, you need to spent ex-money to upgrade Perodua emblem to Toyota brand = Ah Beng's MPV.
And don't forget to sticking the Passo Sette sticker at the rear. R3(Really Really Really Art) sticker also can makes your car sporty.
peroenam said,
June 9, 2009 @ 8:58 pm · Quote
Don’t let your hard earn money sucking by Toyota from Japan as Perodua badge. Buy the Proton’s car can save your tax money.
ARE u sure proton no tax ??? talk b4 u do
the proton basher must be perodua salesman,
the perodua basher must be proton salesman,
sokong la dua2, jgn gaduh2
[quote comment="243857"][quote comment="243734"]From the power site, new Perodua MPV with 1.5 engine sure be better that Exora 1.6 engine, I still think 1.6 engine with 125ps still not enough for Exora, unless the engine can tune to have more torque at low rpm…[/quote]
—————–
TALK WITHOUT FACTS LIKE TALK WITH BULLSHIT!!
" I still think 1.6 engine with 125ps… "
VISIT SHOWROOM AND TEST DRIVE FIRST..THEN COME HERE TO COMMENT.. no more "i think". it makes u like DONKEY..[/quote]
Does anyone mention Peugeot 5008 mpv also has 1.6Ltr version?..and why this ppl said 1.5 is better than 1.6?…that 27 guy was talking without OTAK..
Old KIA Carens 1.6cc model in UK market was heavier than Exora. Kerb weight was 1450kg, max torque 118Nm, 130hp. Surprisingly, no one complain about underpower..
[quote comment="243925"]peroenam said,
June 9, 2009 @ 8:58 pm · Quote
Don’t let your hard earn money sucking by Toyota from Japan as Perodua badge. Buy the Proton’s car can save your tax money.
ARE u sure proton no tax ??? talk b4 u do[/quote]
Everybody buy Proton can stop Proton from losing tax money again mah. LOL
You buy Proton surely you help Proton. You pasti can do it!
[quote comment="243967"][quote comment="243857"][quote comment="243734"]From the power site, new Perodua MPV with 1.5 engine sure be better that Exora 1.6 engine, I still think 1.6 engine with 125ps still not enough for Exora, unless the engine can tune to have more torque at low rpm…[/quote]
—————–
TALK WITHOUT FACTS LIKE TALK WITH BULLSHIT!!
" I still think 1.6 engine with 125ps… "
VISIT SHOWROOM AND TEST DRIVE FIRST..THEN COME HERE TO COMMENT.. no more "i think". it makes u like DONKEY..[/quote]
Does anyone mention Peugeot 5008 mpv also has 1.6Ltr version?..and why this ppl said 1.5 is better than 1.6?…that 27 guy was talking without OTAK..[/quote]
I think 1.6 is powerful than 1.5, I think too Peugeot brand is better than Proton brand.
[quote comment="243897"][quote comment="243842"][quote comment="243741"]You want to drive japan's car, you buy D46T loh, also can be japanese wannabe mah… you want your national pride, buy exora loh, can tunjuk you can do it.
to bmpower
You should buy D46T, cheap than Exora, good FC and second hand prices. It help you save a lot of yoour poorket money to buy X5 in future.[/quote]
65~75k for small avanza size is cheap???
good FC?? this MPV using same engine as AVANZA… FC is not selling poit for AVANZA
Good 2nd value??
ppl now smart oredi.. not simply conned by so called "toyota downgrade version".. even viva oso no 2nd value[/quote]
16.6km/L for MPV not good FC meh? The facts, a 5 years old Myvi manual also sell 30K, you lugi RM 3K per year only. What about Exora? 5 years after 50% off? You lugi 35k. 35K – 15K = 20K. You buy Exora you lugi RM 20K.[/quote]
16.6km/L for such 1.5l engine… AVANZA oso got the same figure.. nobody cares about it..it is normal for small 1.5l engine
So you judge 2nd value base on previos story of MyVi.. in that case FYI wira oso got High resalue value before..then how come VIVA got no resale value??
wake up bro… now is not like pass 10 years ago… before perodua got no PW problem… now PW is common problem …
Center meter console like TATA NANO
joint seat at 1st row like VAN SEKOLAH and LORRY
papan lapis seat at 3rd row like JUARA
No 3rd row aircon
No crash test rated for super milo tin body
Sorry… i would prefer Spacious NISSAN VANNETTE rather than this MPV
prrrfthh
[quote comment="243846"]Can't wait for the new macho man,stylish Perodua MPV…I am absolutely sure the price will be rather cheaper than Exora…Personally,i got a proton and perodua cars at home…I am truly impressed with the services and maintenance of Perodua.The spare parts and labour charges extremely cheaper than Proton.There will be no doubt to book for new Perodua MPV as i strongly believe it will be much more to offer than the latest Proton Exora….[/quote]
wait until u see the real one later…i hv seen it in Japan..super ugly AVANZA wannabe
New macho men?? prrrtfhh In Japan CM they desgin purposely for Women..
[quote comment="243929"]the proton basher must be perodua salesman,
the perodua basher must be proton salesman,
sokong la dua2, jgn gaduh2[/quote]
cam ne nak sokong.. satu tukang pasang dan tukar bumper cam kedai brothers je.. tak sama tuu
prrrfthhh
Nice looking MPV.
In terms of quality > Perodua Leads
In terms of Handling > Proton Leads
In terms of Safety > Both good
In terms of Performance > Perodua Leads
I think the meter panel and the dashboard is much better than Exora.
That's all about business. They are compete each other with a better way. That's good for us (consumer).
[quote comment="244108"]Nice looking MPV.
In terms of quality > Perodua Leads
In terms of Handling > Proton Leads
In terms of Safety > Both good
In terms of Performance > Perodua Leads
I think the meter panel and the dashboard is much better than Exora.
That's all about business. They are compete each other with a better way. That's good for us (consumer).[/quote]
nice looking, i'm agree :)
but
quality > almost the same, percieved quality is another different story.
handling > obviously well-known.
safety > no crash test, no talk.
performance > what kind of performance?
i prefer meter panel with more info displayed.
i least prefer dashboard with many buttons.
i'm just a car driver, not a pilot :D
[quote comment="244060"]
wait until u see the real one later…i hv seen it in Japan..super ugly AVANZA wannabe
New macho men?? prrrtfhh In Japan CM they desgin purposely for Women..[/quote]
No problemlah, Passo aka Myvi also design for womenlah, ppt also buy. Women also drive BMW.
szw is the real rubbish in fact cos don't even own a car that's why said rubbish. the real no money to buy rubbish-szw. shame for parents.
This is never ending but this wat i feel..
P1 engine dept., please do 2.0 engine, coz 1.8 will be a lot easier. Please also expand CPS only, no more the rest, at par with vvt or cvt. Its investment but please2 do. And dont sell to Malaysian anymore, sell elsewhere coz its more profitable. Lastly quality and quality.
P2 I want to see more interesting baby from you. Please do more and be more innovative.
Drive a 7 yr old P1 and 7 yr old P2 and compare. Its subjective but we are just laymen.
All the best.
[quote comment="244108"]Nice looking MPV.
In terms of quality > Perodua Leads
In terms of Handling > Proton Leads
In terms of Safety > Both good
In terms of Performance > Perodua Leads
I think the meter panel and the dashboard is much better than Exora.
That's all about business. They are compete each other with a better way. That's good for us (consumer).[/quote]
Safety both good……? Don't fuck with me, this tin milo just cuz got twin airbags n ABS edi as good as Exora? Exora at least edi proved with crash test videos, what P2 got?
Go die la this 5 + 2 sohai van, konon 7 seater, huh.
[quote comment="244112"][quote comment="244108"]Nice looking MPV.
In terms of quality > Perodua Leads
In terms of Handling > Proton Leads
In terms of Safety > Both good
In terms of Performance > Perodua Leads
I think the meter panel and the dashboard is much better than Exora.
That's all about business. They are compete each other with a better way. That's good for us (consumer).[/quote]
nice looking, i'm agree :)
but
quality > almost the same, percieved quality is another different story.
handling > obviously well-known.
safety > no crash test, no talk.
performance > what kind of performance?
i prefer meter panel with more info displayed.
i least prefer dashboard with many buttons.
i'm just a car driver, not a pilot :D[/quote]
ya lor.. what kind of performance that perodua leads? Saga 1.3 can smoke Myvi and even Savvy 1.2 also already proved smoked myvi easily.. safety both good? let's test crash savvy and myvi head to head.. perodua leads quality? what made he think the quality of the parts that came from a same vendor in MALAYSIA will have a different quality?
My big concern is acond. Don’t think this car have blower at second roll & 3roll. Anyone can survive with outside temp 30 degree C? The headrest at 3 rolls also need to take out before fold down the 3rd roll seat. Terrible.. If one of you dreams to buy cardina but not have money may be this is the right car…but not for space.
Frankly, this is tin kosong, tin milo is buatan malaysia = proton XXD
[quote comment="244159"]
ya lor.. what kind of performance that perodua leads? Saga 1.3 can smoke Myvi and even Savvy 1.2 also already proved smoked myvi easily.. safety both good? let's test crash savvy and myvi head to head.. perodua leads quality? what made he think the quality of the parts that came from a same vendor in MALAYSIA will have a different quality?[/quote]
You mean the parts of proton and perodua are came from a same vendor? I see… the facts… $$… THX.
STUPID VAN http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5166/422474352…
[quote comment="244108"]Nice looking MPV.
In terms of quality > Perodua Leads
In terms of Handling > Proton Leads
In terms of Safety > Both good
In terms of Performance > Perodua Leads
I think the meter panel and the dashboard is much better than Exora.
That's all about business. They are compete each other with a better way. That's good for us (consumer).[/quote]
prrfftt pls talk base on facts n figure
Quality wise :
10 year ago.. yes perodua leads, but not for new gen of proton cars suchSaga Blm, persona are much better and par as Myvi,…but viva is the worst
Handling
: go kart like handling of proton vs sampan handling of perodua
Safety : proton leads
crash test rated
High tensile steel and rigid chassis
preodua: super milo tin body
Space and comfort : proton leads–> main reason for people buying a MPV
High tech and features : proton leads
BCM, a lot of info shows at meter panel
No matter of what.. most ppl buying a MPV is for COMFORT n SPACE
[quote comment="244114"][quote comment="244060"]
wait until u see the real one later…i hv seen it in Japan..super ugly AVANZA wannabe
New macho men?? prrrtfhh In Japan CM they desgin purposely for Women..[/quote]
No problemlah, Passo aka Myvi also design for womenlah, ppt also buy. Women also drive BMW.[/quote]
because they can easilly conn women…prrrfthh
[quote comment="244223"][quote comment="244114"][quote comment="244060"]
wait until u see the real one later…i hv seen it in Japan..super ugly AVANZA wannabe
New macho men?? prrrtfhh In Japan CM they desgin purposely for Women..[/quote]
No problemlah, Passo aka Myvi also design for womenlah, ppt also buy. Women also drive BMW.[/quote]
because they can easilly conn women…prrrfthh[/quote]
Women nowadays have decision to make the choice buy a car and men always listening to her. Don't belittle the power of women.
Proton = big milo tin
Perodua = small milo tin
Both of owners can joints TMTC = The Milo Tins Club as well as TJCC. XXXD
Ok, let me put it this way, i own both a Myvi 1.3 and Savvy.
Here's my take on the ancient P1 vs P2 feud, in general terms
1) Driving, Handling and Comfort in the car, Proton simply wins hands down.
2) Fuel Consumption? Campro is Proton's dark horse. P2 will win the FC war, which is very important factor for malaysian market.
3) Price. It's a 50-50, but in this MPV case, P2 will have slight edge.
4) Reputation – P2 wins hands down. Most Malaysian wants Proton to Die.(with good reasons).
5) Quality – 50-50.
6) Services – P2 > P1. I am a customer of both. P1 simply sucks big time. But P2 isn't Toyota Service Centre either, but they're a bit better.
7) Resale Value – P2 wins again as history shows P2 cars have better re-sale value against P1.
IMO, those are the most important factors for Malaysian buyer. And the bad reputation of Proton alone is enough to give half the market to P2 already.
Coming back to cars comparison, (and please stop that 'you can't compare C class with B class crap'. We all saw how the Myvi killed the Savvy, despite the Savvy being one of Proton better cars).
Exora is definitely roomier and a big family who can afford another 10K or so shouldn't be a problem. I view the P2 MPV like a Myvi with a boot. It won't be comfortable carrying 7 person for long distance (but short distance is ok..heck i can cramp 6 adults into my Savvy for a lunch trip…i'm quite amazed actually!). But then, at 6xK to 70K, might as well go for a big sedan?
But reserved final judgement until i can see the car myself, but most likely, it'll be just a bit bigger than maybe a Livina.(a no-no for 7 seater).
In fact, i'm considering an Exora, but the FC, CAMPRO and Proton's dodgy service really piss me off.
But i think this time, it might not be a walk over like Myvi vs Savvy….but my bet is P2 will still win the war…but maybe not with runaway margin.
btw, just to end this, i would say i would rather drive a Proton to a P2 car anyday, but buying one is another issue due to the factors above….but P2's VIVA is the most overpriced piece of crap/junk/rubbish/thrash/sampah ever.
I'm so glad i bought a Savvy over the VIVA!!!
i drove an auto Savvy (rented) b4 for a day only… is nice to drive… much more powerful than my kelisa… corner or straight line speed can go faster than kelisa….
but what i don't like is the plastic gear knob doesn't looks so promising, looks like will break easily….
another thing i don't like is when changing gear, it got a lot of sound….
when i open the bonnet, it looks so dirty inside the engine bay… got oil leaking sight….(doesn't matter since it just a rented car)
is the maintenance cost high? since it using Renault engine….
this gonna beat exora?huhu..i don't think so..
it might beat exora if im (185cm) can fit in the 3rd row nicely like im in exora..
in this mpv(perodua)..i thing i have to 'bersila' when sitting in the 3rd row..
well..this mpv lighten up our automotive market..~
its a grown-up myvi….
single guy, use myvi….
when he is married… he use this passo sette…
similar looks, but different size….
Hi,
just to give some comments:
1. I hv and used both P1 Waja and Isware and P2 Myvi. My opinion is P2 quality better. BUT P2 cars are sedan and better control and handling.
2. Now I have Avanza last month bought. Why I dun wait? Bcoz no matter what, still toyota. Had enough of P1 n P2 problems with car and service centres.
3. Why dun wait for P2 new MPV? coz Avanza alrdy established and over the years improved. Dun mind a old model as long as good, right? Buy new MPV and surely hv some improvements to be made. Take P1 Waja as example. Too so many years to improve and still improving…until its gets obselete.
4. Comments on P2 MPV >
I dun like centre console at the dashboard.
3rd row seat even in Toyota Passoto Jap version not as good as current Avanza 3rd row seat.
P2 MPV will be 'stripped' down version of Jap version. Surely quality of interior and others will be 'localised'. I had enough of inferior quality.
Just my thoughts…
[quote comment="244450"]Hi,
just to give some comments:
1. I hv and used both P1 Waja and Isware and P2 Myvi. My opinion is P2 quality better. BUT P2 cars are sedan and better control and handling.
2. Now I have Avanza last month bought. Why I dun wait? Bcoz no matter what, still toyota. Had enough of P1 n P2 problems with car and service centres.
3. Why dun wait for P2 new MPV? coz Avanza alrdy established and over the years improved. Dun mind a old model as long as good, right? Buy new MPV and surely hv some improvements to be made. Take P1 Waja as example. Too so many years to improve and still improving…until its gets obselete.
4. Comments on P2 MPV >
I dun like centre console at the dashboard.
3rd row seat even in Toyota Passoto Jap version not as good as current Avanza 3rd row seat.
P2 MPV will be 'stripped' down version of Jap version. Surely quality of interior and others will be 'localised'. I had enough of inferior quality.
Just my thoughts…[/quote]
avanza is assembled by perodua members at rawang… not toyota at japan or UMW toyota…
so, u still got the p2 effect…
No ignore Myvi fanboys and girls will upgrade their cars to D46T mini MPV, they can easy mod at Ah Beng Asso Shop . It will beat down against Honda Jazz with cheapest price.
a moded sette
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/21654423….
[quote comment="244203"]STUPID VAN http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5166/422474352…
SO STUPID.
Anybody thinking this is a good MPV will find it suck big time.Toyota Avanza has a back row problem for a full-size adult. This will be the repeat to such failure. Yes, we admit Exora may not be 100% what it seems, but when are we going to admit, Malaysians need to learn how to support their own goods? Perodua is a re-badging of Daihatsu (or now as it is called, Toyota). The government still allow it to go on to create a competition for boosting Proton. Eventually, Malaysians don't learn. Some even are traitors, left Malaysia and post on the internet, depicting that silly "I'm NOT M'Sian, I HATE M'Sia" thingy.
In this case, we should be turned into another Vietnam. No locally-made models, all pure imports. road tax starts from US$1000 (Annually) onwards…
so many stupid here…..
..actually i born in UK…i`m malay…
yesterday drove along road BKE highway…
then i saw proton esola…is it right the spelling..my uncle said its malaysia mpv..
and my uncle already book it..and he ask my opinion..
so i think…look nice..but …mm
who stupid design this car…
really2 bad look..like mongolian designer..hehheh
jangan mara…
Do remember Proton is 100% lacal made but Perodua is traitor. It work for Japan.
Hi car lovers and critics,
1. Please refer to ammendment for my earlier statement
"BUT P1 cars are sedan and better control and handling." P1 not P2 like waja have great handling.
2.Dear Adam, You mentioned below
"Anybody thinking this is a good MPV will find it suck big time.Toyota Avanza has a back row problem for a full-size adult."
Your 1st statement is referring to Avanza OR Exora?
Yes, Avanza 3rd row seat is cramp for adults. But please do explain to me which MPV (price below RM100k) does hv 3rd row seat fit for adult?
I would say Exora has the largest space up to now…not citra, livina, avanza.
even wish also not that spacious at 3rd.
[quote comment="244557"]so many stupid here…..
..actually i born in UK…i`m malay…
yesterday drove along road BKE highway…
then i saw proton esola…is it right the spelling..my uncle said its malaysia mpv..
and my uncle already book it..and he ask my opinion..
so i think…look nice..but …mm
who stupid design this car…
really2 bad look..like mongolian designer..hehheh
jangan mara…[/quote]
what makes u relate the design with mongolian? we dont even have any of their products… if wanna comment, think of something logic…
ala, ini kan forum, semua can speak!
aiya , tengok mana car banyak means the car win lor
[quote comment="244557"]so many stupid here…..
..actually i born in UK…i`m malay…
yesterday drove along road BKE highway…
then i saw proton esola…is it right the spelling..my uncle said its malaysia mpv..
and my uncle already book it..and he ask my opinion..
so i think…look nice..but …mm
who stupid design this car…
really2 bad look..like mongolian designer..hehheh
jangan mara…[/quote]
very stupid comment i ever read…
sound like a lot proton salesmen here to me…..-_-"…..
remember the Perdana case? maintenance more than a new car?
-_-"….. Haiz……….
How to support P1?……..
[quote comment="244198"][quote comment="244159"]
ya lor.. what kind of performance that perodua leads? Saga 1.3 can smoke Myvi and even Savvy 1.2 also already proved smoked myvi easily.. safety both good? let's test crash savvy and myvi head to head.. perodua leads quality? what made he think the quality of the parts that came from a same vendor in MALAYSIA will have a different quality?[/quote]
You mean the parts of proton and perodua are came from a same vendor? I see… the facts… $$… THX.[/quote]
u mean u dont know arr?… yes, some of parts are came from a same vendor..
[quote comment="244609"]sound like a lot proton salesmen here to me…..-_-"…..
remember the Perdana case? maintenance more than a new car?
-_-"….. Haiz……….
How to support P1?……..[/quote]
really? haiya, itu driver kelajaan manyak kasar maa.. nasib baik itu toyolta kamlee kelajaan perak sulah mahu kena jual.. kalo tidak mesti losak teruk jugak maa.. remember perdana case hah? i think all people already know…
perdana, which case?
[quote comment="244609"]sound like a lot proton salesmen here to me…..-_-"…..
remember the Perdana case? maintenance more than a new car?
-_-"….. Haiz……….
How to support P1?……..[/quote]
Exora might be heading the same direction as Perdana.
P1 owners claim exora can hit 170km/smoke every car on the road/
Lets see if the gearbox can withstand all these driving conditions.
The Campro engine may be powerful but is the gearbox well mated
with its engine + the bodyweight.?
Only time will tell. In the mean time enjoy your ride !!
why malaysian always kutuk their own product especially cars….
kutuk.. everybody can… try buat satu la.. after that someone kutuk your design or product… ha then you will know what it's feel likes…
i'm proud with malaysian product.. buy malaysian product bro…
I just wonder is ther any second row blower available for this car?
Cos i cant find any words talks about it and..
will perodua provide the same feature as it is in Japan ,market such as TRC, reverse camera and lots of other features
However with the 57k to 60k price, i'm sure it would only equip with the most basic things like CD player + front air cond. blower.
These electronic devices are very much cheaper at overseas are most of them are manufactured there. But with current trend of cheap production req., lots of these manufacturer will move to China anyway.
In the future even u buy a japan made CBU car, U wont be surprise to notice plenty of "made in PRC" labels printed on the parts.
[quote comment="244582"]Yes, Avanza 3rd row seat is cramp for adults. But please do explain to me which MPV (price below RM100k) does hv 3rd row seat fit for adult?
I would say Exora has the largest space up to now…not citra, livina, avanza.
even wish also not that spacious at 3rd.[/quote]
CKD Chery Eastar, below RM100k
i also proud of Malaysia product, at least made in Malaysia product better than china product selling in kedai 20 sen…
For cheaper P2 MPV…
No need aspect too much….
What U paid, what u get…
the last row seat can just take out and put at home as sofa….
I just need a bigger boot space car…. (personal use only)
I don't need 170km/hr also….
who u think u r? drive 170 km/hr?
Like u r the only one using the road? come on lah…
We know u r fast…. we will just let u pass by… U won….. then?
Maybe I will be slower for 5 minutes, but I still reach my destination…..
As Terengganu G, Mercedes Benz better than Perdana.
Same vendor earn same $$.
CKD Chery Eastar, below RM100k….
Ammm… for me that MPV is just trash from China…
U go china then u know…. I think stop production already….
even china ppl also don't want it….
no ppl buy, so import to here
haiz…. is Malaysia a place to put trash?
Myvi already trash almost every where of Malaysia road…. (Myvi is Sampah, trash, rubbish to some ppl)…..
Seriously, if Myvi is trash, why ppl buying this trash? bcoz the other lagi trash teruk to some ppl?? C'mon, even now Japanese still like to buy this trash = passo, funny.
considering buying it if the cabin as spacious as myvi
KC.. hmm.. someone asking for the MPV that can fit adult without having "duduk bersila" in a 3rd row with the price below RM100k.. so a CKD Chery Eastar was the answer…
I got some questions for Proton,
1. To who you want to sell your MPV?
(when rich ppl will sure go for Honda stream, Toyota Wish, Alpha and so on…)
(poor ppl want to buy, but cannot afford to buy it,fuel consumption sure higher bigger car, loan for so many years is stress!)
2. For who u design Exora?
It seen like u just design a MPV that can beat others with size and power (170km/hr). Yes, you Won…. but is that most ppl need?
3. As customer like me, what i kind of MPV will attract me are:
Price:
Less than RM70k…. I am comparing this MPV with Vios J….
Vios J accessories…. -_-" Sad…. no air bags!!!
Performance:
Fuel consumption, the MPV looks aerodynamic or not,
Comfort:
boot space, leather seats, accessories like better sound system, I just want to relax after long day work….
To Perodua!!!!
Please Price your MPV nicely…. like RM59k to RM65k or lower better, I will consider to buy it… if more than RM65k, U keep it to yourself!!!
If the car achieved my requirement I will buy it!!!!
For got…
For accessories…
I wish Perodua can come with DVD monitor with reverse camera for higher spec…
also with bodykit like VIP style + better Rims looks can or not?
Safety!!!
must have air bags, ABS or what ever safety features…
[quote comment="244831"]I got some questions for Proton,
1. To who you want to sell your MPV?
(when rich ppl will sure go for Honda stream, Toyota Wish, Alpha and so on…)
(poor ppl want to buy, but cannot afford to buy it,fuel consumption sure higher bigger car, loan for so many years is stress!)
2. For who u design Exora?
It seen like u just design a MPV that can beat others with size and power (170km/hr). Yes, you Won…. but is that most ppl need?
3. As customer like me, what i kind of MPV will attract me are:
Price:
Less than RM70k…. I am comparing this MPV with Vios J….
Vios J accessories…. -_-" Sad…. no air bags!!!
Performance:
Fuel consumption, the MPV looks aerodynamic or not,
Comfort:
boot space, leather seats, accessories like better sound system, I just want to relax after long day work….
To Perodua!!!!
Please Price your MPV nicely…. like RM59k to RM65k or lower better, I will consider to buy it… if more than RM65k, U keep it to yourself!!!
If the car achieved my requirement I will buy it!!!![/quote]
To peoples that already booking for Exora that already reach 11,000 booking.. who are this peoples anyways?? question mark in my head.. ??? ;) ???
is too hard to make a decision,
RM70k: Vios or D46T?
RM80k: Exora or Chery Eastar??
RM90k Grand Livina???
can some one expert tell me the loan interest rate now days.
as i know the nissan is 1.98%, toyota is 2.38%
beat exora yahooooooo…………
Thanks….
Then congratulations to Proton….
I dont know got so many ppl,11,000 booked…. (i m not the seller sorry)
Thanks for the info… ;p
Exora Prime… the white color one actually look very nice for me…
How about loan interest rate now days for P1 and P2? Sure higher right?
Isn't it better if Both P1 & P2 sells well…
[quote comment="244877"]is too hard to make a decision,
RM70k: Vios or D46T?
RM80k: Exora or Chery Eastar??
RM90k Grand Livina???
can some one expert tell me the loan interest rate now days.
as i know the nissan is 1.98%, toyota is 2.38%[/quote]
exora m-line auto 69k(dual airbaags, abs+ebd+bebd, pretensioner+load limiter, Dual side impact beam, sport rim, bluetooth connection, bcm as oppose to vios j basic accessories)
exora manual m-line in july (try to guess the price)
exora base line (rumours only :-) maybe coming soon, try to guess its price)
and for all info, h-line exora comes with eco-tint, and all exora windows using pilkington toughened glass (first one in proton) except the front and the third row small window using tempered glass.
adios……………………..
I already buy myvi and then viva. Ok la, but don't satisfied me a lot especially handling.
I've test exora, good handling, but I'll wait for 2.0 and 2.0 turbo next year (mitsubishi engine I heard)
Perodua Exora
Length 4180 4592 412 41cm
width 1695 1809 114 11cm
height 1620 1691 71 7cm
wheelbase 2750 2730 -20 2cm
weight 1190 1422 232
look at your self
1.5 P2 weight 1190
1.6 esokla 1422
230kg different for 100 cc saipa laju?!
[quote comment="244831"]I got some questions for Proton,
1. To who you want to sell your MPV?
(when rich ppl will sure go for Honda stream, Toyota Wish, Alpha and so on…)
(poor ppl want to buy, but cannot afford to buy it,fuel consumption sure higher bigger car, loan for so many years is stress!)
2. For who u design Exora?
It seen like u just design a MPV that can beat others with size and power (170km/hr). Yes, you Won…. but is that most ppl need?
3. As customer like me, what i kind of MPV will attract me are:
Price:
Less than RM70k…. I am comparing this MPV with Vios J….
Vios J accessories…. -_-" Sad…. no air bags!!!
Performance:
Fuel consumption, the MPV looks aerodynamic or not,
Comfort:
boot space, leather seats, accessories like better sound system, I just want to relax after long day work….
To Perodua!!!!
Please Price your MPV nicely…. like RM59k to RM65k or lower better, I will consider to buy it… if more than RM65k, U keep it to yourself!!!
If the car achieved my requirement I will buy it!!!![/quote]
this what DSZ said in his speech on launching day… m'sia want;-
1. European technology
2. Japanese design
but…… Malaysian price… hehehehehe
can aaaa??? please answer……..
460..lama xdgr ni.. :)
Malaysia's car prices are hell on earth.
Can…. Sure can…
Malaysai Boleh!!!
Remember Avanza 1.3L 1st came out also around RM57000 only???
(My dad Sold it few years ago, due to I said handling not so good and under power since same engine like Myvi…)
Electronic parts are not expensive at all, only the dealer put it at high price to sales to us….
U can go Brothers check out the promotions for the DVD front monitor, Lees thank RM2k…..
Reverse camera cheap only less than RM200 can get it….
1.3L and 1.5L only a little different… so…. less than RM65k is Possible….
Malaysaia Boleh!!!
Proton Boleh!!!
Perodua Boleh!!!
Ha ha ha ha…..
Dear Prismo,
yes correct the Easter has better 3rd row seats for adults. although below rm100k, but hv u really seen the quality level of the interior? I went with my friends to the showroom and we were shocked. there were clear obvious gaps in the interior fittings. the ABS cover for the driver was loose. maybe this was the showroom fault for not putting up a better Easter for display? Also, the 2.4litre engine scares me lah….cant imagine its FC..although its Mitsu ( Iove Mitsu engines line my current Waja). If ppl like us who hv been using P1 and P2 cars, we are definately NOT going for China products…cant take the chance anymore. Rather pay for brand and assured quality..hope so..I still can hope, right?
Wont blive china products nowadays..Damp dissapointed with my Naz? car that always rosak..The service are damp bad..They treat us like ball,kick here and there..If me,will consider Toyo J spec or Myvi MPV might be as believe the quality of it..Seldom see Myvi rosak tepi jalan kan? But protun saga did good job as well..my uncle bought 1,better than current iswara..Ha..If force me buy protun or china or korean car..sure i pick protun as the spareparts easy to find and more cheaper..
Yup… if Exora Vs China MPV… sure go for Exora….
Dear NoMoreP1P2forMe,
I know that Eastar quality was "shocking" for some other peoples, but perhaps if u want another MPV that can fit adults comfortely at the 3rd row with the price below RM100k, i got the another answer. NAZA RIA can do the magic :) .And if this MPV also not in ur list so u got to choose whether P2 D46T, P1 Exora, Naza Citra and T Avanza for ur next vehicle.. If there no more P1&P2 and Eastar was terrible for u, so this left to u T avanza and Naza Citra on the list.. ;)
no one commenting bout this teaser video/advertisement…
the video tell nothing bout 'family car'…it just 'glamourous' car..
who is actually their target market? artist? glamour people?
rubbish..
its ok if perodua just rebadge the passo settee, but downgrade/strip down the model and sell it to rakyat at high price is considered cheating. Anyway, let's wait for the final price/spec list.
this perodua mpv is good to run?
jvteh said,
June 21, 2009 @ 11:28 pm
this perodua mpv is good to run?
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Not sure… It haven't been lunch… no test drive…
So, cannot answer your question….
Just hope the price for Premium version doesn't go over RM65k
I
Qoute" To peoples that already booking for Exora that already reach 11,000 booking.. who are this peoples anyways?? question mark in my head.. ??? ???
"
people who dont read into every car forum to buy car, people who actually go and test drive the car and have the money to buy the car..hehehe..talk talk talk in the forum ..you will be suprise to know there is another world outside this screen who doesnt care much about what people say in the forum… maybe those lah yang banyak beli.
go and test drive the car if u really want to buy..else assume all u want and kutuk sini sana,but it make fun reading anyway.
CanMoveGoodEnough,
Err… Do u know what my point? Did u really read the entire comments above or just skipping (jump here, jump there) the earlier comments?????
Perodua,
Can U offer an all black interior? the yellow or brown color interior looks ok…. but easy get dirty….
I prefer all black…. hope Perdua can offer a black leather seats…..
aku nak cadangkan nama mpv myvi ni myvi sedan…x mcm mpv…mcm myvi ditarik ke blakang skit…senang kan nak design kerete skrg nih…camner pun PROTON EXORA still the best MPV made in malaysia! proud to be malaysian!
wkakaka, ada org kecoh sini, you mesti sudah beli exora wkakakakakakak now regret ….wkakakakakak
now there are getting more Exora here…
Exora built quality is not bad, just that it is not so suitable for me…
I still prefer P2 MPV, although it is smaller, not so power (hp) compare to Exora, but I am comparing it to Vios J… in term of price, spec and accessories….
I comparing price to price, then the accessories offered…
I still will wait for P2 MPV. Yup I am a Fan of P2….
I have used Kancil -> Kembara -> Kelisa -> Myvi (now)….
Just hope Perodua can offer a more affordable price about RM60 to 65k….
Haha said,
June 23, 2009 @ 11:09 pm
wkakaka, ada org kecoh sini, you mesti sudah beli exora wkakakakakakak now regret ….wkakakakakak
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sape???
It looks very much like a Myvi. Only Stretched longer to accommodate more seats. So to me it is like a Myvi Limo.
But seems good from here. Pricing would have to start a war with Proton Evora. But for built quality I would go Perodua but will want the CPS engine in it.
No offense.
apa guba CPS?!
Big Siang, wake up!! wake up!! nowadays Perodua struggling with their quality also… and Proton quality's is improving..
and Mr. Bagus… bro pernah dirve keta Proton dgn enjin CPS tak?? kalo tak gi drive sekali.. baru komen.. lepas ni mesti bro cakap yg bro pernah drive kan? perkara biasa… ;)
I'm looking for a nice MPV car which can affort to buy. Dah tgk Exora, mau beli dah tapi dengar ada Perodua baru…MPV. Sebulan dah asyik tgk gambar jer… makin harti makin sayang lo….
Boring la dengar kutuk-kutuk sana sini… kalau ikut sedap mau kutuk & mau complain, Tuhan pun lu complain ma… you buy with your own money. Loan bank, pay your self. Orang bukan peduli lu takde duit… ada ka mau kecoh saja! Beli la MPV Perodua kalau lu berani…:)
Tunngu saje kereta ini keluar saja….beru tahu
saya tidak berani beli ini MPV wooo aeleg… kecik, downgraded version dan mahal utk saiznya… aku tunggu EXORA dgn enjin campro turbo ataupun dgn enjin petronas 2.0.. dpt taruk rim 18"…
Exora 2.0L pasti boleh bagai sport rim 20", tapi D46T 1.5L… tukarlah sama-sama 15" rim tu dengan Exora punya 15" rim.
The exora rim tidak dapat guna dekat D46T… Exora 5 holes but D46T 4 holes saja…
use 3~4 months hard work salary just to buy a set of 20" rims worth kah? (assume RM10k a set)
later kena curi or langgar lubang, cry~ T-T….
For me 16" looks like the Exora Prestige (Black concept Exora) looks nice…..
nothing special, because perodua can only duplicate Toyota and Daihatsu model , and selling the car very expensive.
If Myvi 1.3 selling RM5xxxx you guess how much they want to sell this MPV RM7xxxx to RM8xxxx(the nautical selling price RM89XXX(so call 4WD) is close to Misubishi Triton(the real 4WD)?
and the measurement is definitely smaller than Exora, i quiet sure perodua won't equip with dvd player, leather and gps
due to so many people adoration perodua i'm sure the booking will take a long list to wait.
hi all…
gua da tgk mpv nie kat singapore…under toyota passo sette 1.5l…gua pegi carnival kete kat singapore expo(diadakan setiap Julai every year)….byk bleh tgk model baru yg takde kat MY lagi….cam latest wish..alphard…oddesey…bla..bla..
kecik jek mpv nie…3rd row seat die nipis cam papan letak kulit jek…lpas tu sumbat span kit…da la sempit..blakang tu(tu under toyota name tu) kalu da tukar ke P2 lagi la kene cut down spec…lagila cam cepet…saiz sama cam honda jazz lama tu…cuma nampak cam lagi bodo kete nie..
ape² dalam avanza lagi ok pe…(walaupn gua benci giler ngan avanza..)..by the way…kalu harga bawah rm60k bleh beli…kalu tak tak berbaloi….compare ngan exora …14 kali lagi baik mpv proton…
P2 nie kire mencekik darah org…tipu rakyat jual kete murah pd harge mahal…cut down spec…kete standard cam kete tahun 80an…pintu tak tutup rapat pun takde lampu signal warning…(Myvi gua la nie)….bla..bala..balaa…
tapi..kalu bawah RM 60K..gua akan belik gak…heheheh…gau tak ampu nak byr kete mahal² la…no choice kan…hehehehe
USDfan,
Ada dgr ttg Exora B-Line tak? M-Line manual harga dia RM64k.. mungkin B-Line bawah RM60k kot? mana tahu.. strategi Proton… kalo B-Line bawah 60k, boleh bungkus awal MPV perodua ni…
Still got ppl will buy this MPV….
Me….
Wa ada tengok sekali-sekali exora dijalan. memang cun jugak, ikhlas ni.. wa sekrang tunggu perodua MPV. Buat apa bikin gaduh, dua-dua jugak kereta celup ma.. harap lu mahu bawa masuk fresh dari Jepun sampai bila wa boleh pakai. Beli dua-dua lo, lu tanding sendiri mana lu rasa o.k. kalqau tak ok lu letak second hand jual kereta la, lu cari baru lagi satu lain punya.
Malaysian still msian..Only give -tve comments…Doesnt matter if it is exora/perodua's new MPV. Juz give full support to our Automotive Industry..Diff people diff taste..Proton/Perodua is our nation pride..More quality than some imported models (compare to my citroen…worse than kancil..)..
ada perkembangan terkini MPV Perodua ke bro. Wa tak sabar nak tgk yang betul2 punya…
lol… base on the picture above…. now they encourage the use of HID?
Piiiiraaaahh!!! mabok u all.!!…. macam pandai sgt…sbnarnya u all pon x tau apa…hanya dengar cakap jerk..
zam alakazam,
1stly,.. WOW!! u mmg pandai…
zam alakazam
2nd…
U paling Pandai!!!
Hehehe….
Can teach how to become pandai like U?
I have 2 say at d p2 MPV looks good and i like it i am also a p2 fan have a kancil 660ex 2002 model , kancil 660ez 1999 & a myvi se 2008 model in all my years of having d kancil 2002 it has travelled about 180,000km alredi been around msia dun now how many times but u now wat never had any problms just oil changes no major servicing nothing & its a daily driver used to carry bags of cement and workers somemore 2 build quiality of even my kancil is better than proton anyday the power windows still work till now my frens using wiras ,wajas & gen2 always got problem. have seen the exora upclose the 3rd row seat is only for children and small kids under 12 not adults. i bet the new p2 mpv will outsell exora anyday why toyota tech man proton & cps cant beat dat i know my kids will love the new p2 mpv they dont like d exora its so plain & 2 think it was based on d wish but came looking so plain. this is my comments to all those who hate p2 say they copy toyota and daihatsu tech and style if u noe ur facts right p2 is owned by UMW-TOYOTA which is also partly owned by TOYOTA MOTOR COMPANY and who also owns DAIHATSU and now SUBARU so tech is shared among its partners and affiliate comapnies just like what Volkswagen does for AUDI which does LAMBORGHINI and what Renault is doing for the DACIA brand of Eastern Europe their low budget brand think like this P2 is Toyotas low budget brand for asia. Proton was great once upon a time not anymore just overinflated egos and unwillingness to change and a refusal to believe that the msian buying public is no longer interested in poor quality cars that are overpriced and so behind in tech eg the saga from 1985 till 2008 after so many facelifts but nothing has changed only its price which surprisly has gone up despite no updates whatsoever. my money is PERODUA not proton besides the myvi is still msia no 1 car every month not the saga which is like rm12,000 cheaper than my myvi se but missing so many things like abs,ebd come on safety is everything. just one thing to say to p2 haters if u dont like the new mpv well stuff it nobody is forcing u 2 buy one if u like d exora go ahead & buy one & b happy knowing u bought an inferior car which will rattle and clunk like clockwork after exactly 2 years just anyone who has any proton model i know i have coz i have driven and sat in them all from the saga 1985 model all the way to the gen 2 proton vendors qc is non existent i know coz 1 of my frens works in a proton tier one vendor supplying all plastic and fibre components from the dashboard to the spoilers and bumpers he said there is no qc coz proton doenst require it just make as many as u can in a month tats all. surprised right tats why he drives a kelisa special edition instead not a proton coz he noes there is no quality if accident sure hancur ur car. any this is my two cents worth anyway. PERODUA FOR LIFE SEE ME IN MY NEW PERODUA MPV
Not sure want to buy this MPV or Viva Elite…
i just want to buy a personal use car only….
but will think about it after 3 months…..
I just started working….
nice & easy compare the price..klu ada rezeki lebih teman nak beli..leh balik kuala naik keta baru..
i will buy this …. can't wait till it comes out … hope they lower the % only cos is to hi la…. but i think the pick-up will be better than proton like all produa do.
Perodua 0~90km/hr nice only…
after that kena makan by Proton…..
I must agree that P1 1.6 campro real more power & top speed….
cintailah barangan tempatan.
tak payah lah gaduh2 …kan sama juga produk malaysia…tapi yang pasti aku sokong proton sebab ….model keluarannya bukan ciplak macam perodua….kekurangan yang ketara…wajah model keluarannya hampir seiras dengan yg asal …tapi harga tak jauh beza …contoh rush vs nautica….??? tentu pilihan rush …berbaloi-baloi
i wonder if you can exchange the front end with a myvi?
asl kete ni x pkai enjen tebo cam YRV….klau pkai enjen YRV ,bkn exora tp V6 pon leh klahkan…..(V6 standard gaban laa)
korang ni, exora kan mid-size mpv…yg perodua mpv baru ni bknnye mid-size tp compact mpv…mmg x standing ngan exora….$@^%@&* sgt compare ngan exora ape hal….use your brain aaa….
i agreed wit u,janggoat!they talk like no brain,
it very simple,do the research 1st then share ur result n comment…
nie tak,kasi hantam saja……
p/s:critially thinking……..
Another pinnacle of stereotypicality… What's so amazing about exora & perodua mpv anyway? I'm quite confused as to why peoples seems to be fascinated by these boring design? Can't proton & perodua be more innovative? seriously… feeling proud on outdated design huh? Try designing your ultra pathetic mpv with more innovation such as those used on grandis or stream for example. I'm not even feeling motivated to write using proper grammar when commenting about those junks. Asbestos tul la…
MYVI ALZA…
Dear Perodua Prospect Buyer, Pls advised that don buy perodua car, they so called toyata quality control but the car (viva) exploited. PLEASE DON'T BUY PERODUA CAR!!!!!!
Dear Perodua Prospect Buyer, Pls advised that don buy perodua car, they so called toyata quality control but the car exploited. PLEASE DON'T BUY PERODUA CAR!!!!!!
what the hell. we'll be making money out of it anyway…
semua mengarut je
MPV MPV MPV
bila turun harga
cukai cukai cukai
Aku tunggu AFTA 2010
baru aku beli
jimat 22 sikit
kalu duit lebih tolong ore miskin kat kampung22 lagi bagus
mat we janganlah berangan-angan nak beli
kereta murah 2010
Sama sajalah harge sebab
Proton nak hiduplah , perlu subsidi kerajaan .
kalo harga murah lingkuplah proton
tak mampu tanding dgn pengeluar lain.
@ntiperodua wat crap u talking
we are no bottom feeders like u settling for whatever crappoo
proton feeds you and saying its good!! good!!good!!
this is a democratic country (i hope) no one decides
what car u can or canX buy!
Just ignore him lah~
As usual, more boring and stereotypical design. Otak beku gapo?
looks juz like a stretched myvi!!!
lol!!!!
FYI,
Automatic Tranny, it will have foot brake rather than hand brake..Estima feeling
New engine will be use, different engine from Avanza 1.5cc
No rear seat blower
No LCD
No model with Leather Seat, later with SE version
Colour would be is all colour of current Myvi except for Sky Blue..new colour would be Blueberry
No NCAP Standard test, since this model is downgraded from current Passo Sette..But who cares, it's Perodua maa, totally junk car with Toyota quality..Toyota lah sangat!!
Handling??same as Myvi.
Cheers..three months to go..
yeah, i'm agree wif proud2bemalaysian..it is myvi extended version..
pa2 pun, i'm proud 2 be malaysian..the car quite nice..
perodua n proton like brothers,
all vendors they share
Visually, I think this P2 Mpv (or Passo sette/Boon luminas) has a friendlier design that is easy on the eyes, compared to Exora.
BUT remember folks, this MPV is designed mainly for female drivers in Japan, and the fact is, it looks feminine while Exora has a neutral look on it, if not muscular.
As for the purpose of buying an MPV, some ppl forgot the initial reason of why MPV is built in the 1st place. Its actually a modernized van with a taste, a people/family carrier, and never a speed demon that you want to equip with 20inch wheels. Some folks pimp their rides, yes, but IF I had the money, I would ignore this n pimp a Hummer instead. Why buy an Exora or this MPV n expect it to outrun a well-built sedan on a hiway? Cruising at 120-130kmph is more than enough. Speed kills n please die alone, not with your family inside the mpv.
Given the thought of what the actual product will look like in terms of finishing quality n safety, I would say RM55k-RM60k is a fair price.
When the thing is finally launched, I would really love to try n pinch the body panels n see if it suffers the same tin box syndrome (like Viva). If it does, I will dub thee 'Crap!'
Ramai jugak P2 basher rupanya.Tapi nampak logik jugak P2 MPV jual RM56K above,if jual RM50K,matila myvi 1.3,persona,gen2,waja,avanza etc.
Pape pun funny tgk advertisement Proton Exora vs MPV Kompak…ayat duduk mengerekot dll are 'so kampung' hahaha..
p1 n p2 pemasang je. teknologi still dr luar..nak bangga boleh, tp jgn lebih2,pasal 2 gua terus pakai hondafame je..hehe..insyaallah thn dpn civic fd2 '08 (2nd je) akan menjadi milik gua..
kalu nk sit banyak n selesa, beli la bassss
qwerty
boleh tahan juga…..tunggu time dia keluaq dulu noo. bandingkan dengan yang ada di pasarang sekarang….pengguna bijak beb…rakyat didahulukan
nampak cantik… tapi lagi suke exora… sebab exora lagi besar… exora dah cantik… tapi sayang danshboard dia nampak murah… kalo dashboard kaler hitamkan bagus…… x sabar tunggu exora 1.6 turbo….. sori la livina…. sori la innova…. avanza??? habis la mpv lain… exora dan perodua mpv akan menguasai pasaran……. semoga dua2 laris….. belilah barangan buatan malaysia… MALAYSIA BOLEH…..
Hello…. any updates on Perodua MPV…September already…thanks!
orang perodua cuti kot,kan bulan posa ni kekeke..
Cool MPV, if the price is affordable for everybody.
Why so late release only in November, end of 2009
Is there still technical problem with the car under perform with carrying 7 passenger
Yet to consider the performance and durability
One more thing BACK of the MPV design really not that nice or sporty look.
Can this be improve further
BODOH TUL LA PERODUA NI..GIMIK KATA BULAN SEPTEMBER NAK LAUNCH..SAMPAI SEKARANG TAK ADA BERITA…
hai unclehusein,
hang ada pergi sekolah ke?
tak tahu baca tajuk atas -NOVEMBER -le!!!
sekarang siapa yg bodoh!!
wah really no news anymore. like nothing much new leak info about perodua MPV on the net. I cant find any other leak info ..so sad :(
anyways…..sept > nov…. hmmm 2 months interval only….lets see :)
"Another surprise revealed in the article is Perodua’s plans for 2009. Perodua will launch a new three row 6-seater MPV in September 2009."
Read more: http://paultan.org/2008/03/24/new-perodua-mpv-com…
At last I am so confuse which one I wud like to buy.
Better stick on what I do have rite now, it only a classic jap van 7seaters with no hassle for years to mov me & family from point A to point B. So then I will huv enough budget to by more land & houses that in return giving more value of money in future.
Cheers to all.. :)
Helo sahabat saya suka pada kereta MPV ini, untuk juru jual sila hubungi saya untuk ambil tempahan, segera. 012-3091246.
terima kasih.
exora is still better than this mpv. don't compare it with exora because it is in different class but it is still nice. i bet this mpv will do the same as myvi. highest sale…
Today i just book my perodua MPV only 1k booking fee . tak mau kalau ambil balik cash. wait and see what's comes out than decide . if ok sure i get the best price cos all produa car 1st bacth murah 2nd 3rd naik harga…. so i will try to be the 1st to grap it. quality i never care cos mesti bagus dari lain cos ori moulding from japan toyota. if want to compare with exora i have test drive it ( under power ) how to over take at genting??? pic-up more importance cos if ur wife and child are one it bayangkan crossing a road with low respond punya gear box and engine..but i have try all toyota and perodua car they have the pic-up…but speed don't know buy i'm not going to carry my family for speeding …anyone agree???
You buy P2, you are supporting Daihatsu and your money will flow to Daihatsu!! For P2 they are black goat in this case. In Kyoto plant at Japan, PassoSette/Boon Luminas only make 2unit per day..Right now, they have no money to repay back development cost of this model. So they exploit P2 as their income and they send many Japanese to P2 since P2 have to pay allowance for that Japanese and they allow P2 to buy their parts at high price..
About P2 and P1 quality, they are same and maybe at some area P1 is better than P2. DSZA is former P2 and he knew how to improve P1 base on his experience at P2….Quality is not a major issue for P1 now on..Remain problem is only after market service..
Guys, if you want to buy this ALZA, think twice for sake of your family..This car don't even have good crash test result, the handling is like a lorry and very dangerous for your family..My advice is don't be cheated by appearance, actually this car is nothing than a family coffin car..
Happy motoring….
I 101% support p2 car ………..nice n can fit 7 sit ….i must buy.
Agree with u Tunomura. I think better buy sedan car. The baggage space too small. I am sure when you all balik kampung you have put your bag in third row.
kassim, if buy sedan u can only take 5 plp, if take the new mpv also can take 5 (if got baggage) but if go short distance i can cary more plp than sedan u c? so for the same price of sedan i can transform to 5-7 seater. thats why i think most plp go for it. MPV future ……
Tak sabar tunggu november nih. The true is, i like this car. Aku dengar 2010 perodua akan keluarkan new version of myvi with engine 1.5 gak. keepin up p2…
tunomura – ur perspective very interesting lah… let me counter with mine….dont buy proton lah all the money will go into cronies pocket moneh..they use that moneh to buy other countries cars beside malaysian cars….but still the moneh goes to malaysia lah :D
teoh yee aun – wah so fast u book already! like from my experience…i never seen myvi before just in pictures only and decided to book it before launch. well i never regret taking the risk to buy as first batch. wanted to buy gen2 in the first place..then after it launch and waited…i shake head reading negative feedbacks about it..
do you have anything other updates about the MPV? what is the price? how is the size of the car? (izzit same as grand livina?) same specs as the japanese ones…? thanks!
teoh i'm surprised they are taking booking already
if can transfer booking maybe can even make money man!!! 1K a unit (book 10 units)enough esp if delivery expected b4 CNY.'10
anyway i agree with gotodmc38 too whenever there is a
new launch by P2,it will be a sell-out same like MYVI.
That is why P1 trying to counter the future P2 mpv by
saying that their's is bigger etc but that's all they can do,
no mention of how great the Exora engine is??(cos they don't hv one)
Anyway the specs will be different from the Jap spec cos due to
NAP nearly 90% hv2 be sourced here. In fact it was mentioned in NST (CBT)
that the Msian version is even better looking than the Jap spec.
Anyway i'm also eager to see the end product come Nov.
I bet it will probably match the sales of Avanza when it was first launched
8K+ bookings in the first week!! Timing is important here cos P2 knows that everyones wants a 2010 model and sales in Dec is the worst!!
Peace !!
gotodmc38, my sales girl told me around 60k and size is a bit smaller than livina.if don't want fully return money… but i will buy cos it's and engine engineering by toyota… it's kind of copy and paste not like gen2 malaysian 1st or u can say wold 1st model RND by malaysian citizen …so i think there will be no risk at all . cos if the car can't fit 7 it still fit 5 plp. remember its 60k and what can u buy at 60k new car in malaysia? waja? toyota avanza? or the copy of toyota MPV……. will not wait and listen, make a move see what happen…..if all gone also 60k if price goes up suregot plp say "kalau wa tau" story and 1st bacth most things are imported…. not like proton 1st bacth are RND by citizen….he he…. i now own a C200k and a kancil660, seems to me kancil is giving me less problem than my merz…..so i decided to buy the perodua MPV…..
this article sponsor by Perodua huh?..hehe..
Perodua try to make their own model like Proton do..so just see and wait..how its gonna looks like..
i wonder why Perodua called as Permotoran Kedua?..Toyota own more than 50% share of this company..correct me if I'm wrong..thanks
Forum – FC of Esokla
Mileage so far is about 1500km and so far the FC is…Bad, equivalent to my other 3L car.
19.5mpg (6.8km/liter) from brimming 48.6 liters and travelling 330km (entirely town driving).
I can only hope the FC improves as I run in the engine
tengok lah sendiri…wakakakkakaka
I think its not worth it to buy this MPV just to carry 5-6 people and for short distance travel only. Better top up a few thousand RM to get Exora that i think more practical for both short and long travelling distance.
saya fikir beli chery eastar 2.4l MPV guna mitsubushi engine pun sangat bagus.kereta ini hanya rm80k. pick-up power sangat baik dan dalam selesa. suspension pun sangat steady leh.saya baru beli di ipoh. servis kereta tak mahal, kurang dari rm100.tiap tiap negeri pun ada servis center.
eastar i dah try power ok tapi lagi pakai engine lama . timing belt lagi. interior dia macam bengkang bengkok aje tak fit la… tapi yang pasti luar nampak garang. ok juga….kalau interior finishing cantik macam lain lian keta jepun pasti laku……takut macam "tiara"
lambat sangat ler p2 pasang stretegi…..aku dah sambor exora manual…power siot…puashati gan harga 65k…kita dah tahap cerdik sekarang sepatutnya tk book kete dulu sblm tgk atau test drive…mana tahu yang datang dari jepun tu bagus…skrg SA cakap manisler sok kalau ko nk cancel…masakler ko nk dpt duit balik…yang tk berapa berduit cam aku…test drive tu menda nie pas tu bandingkan gan exora dan avanza …kalau pilihan anda p2 teruskan…jgnler bandingkan selipar gan kasut….
tiara sekarang pun tiada…..sound same…nama sudah ambil salah…
ALZA is the best car and value for money . I have test drive from Rawang to Genting more than 50 times with 320kg load. Buy ALZA with confidence .. 7 years warranty
Perodua always better than Proton but handling win by proton. I sell my Myvi because handling is sucked..Perodua only rebrand from Japan. Toyota only good for it's badge because their product are very good for other country, not in Malaysia. Proton still have time to produce good product for Malaysian.
about the perdana case.bcoz that gov guy and this apek wokshop 'pakat' to pow goverment money so they claim kaw2 punya…in reality not mahal like that..if not why got so many people use perdana with happy heart…the point is when u have a car u must know where to get cheap parts…
HMMM……… i think this is a another car that japanese kick cause jump alot like a frog who got time just test drive the new proton exora then they will know which is the best car so cepat cepat gi test drive
Please la u all. i know u all can buy luxury cars with high performance kits. U all hav lots of money. But dont critizise too negative la. Giv room for us who hav shallow pockets. I know local cars hav inferior quality, but as true malaysian i support my country. Who else going to support our own country's economy except us? My 1st car is kancil (98) coz dat is d only car i could afford dat time. Presently i still drive it coz its very economic & manouver easily in congested town to pay bills. Now i own an Exora. affordable, very comfortable for my 4 kids & roadtax is only rm90 a year! Fuel consumption is exeptional too.Drove 750km from Seremban to JB & back for only rm140. Power? Top speed? What for? Im just a family man who likes to drive makan angin. Enjoy d trip. Tak menyesal. i can spend my money on other things to enjoy with my family.
I really disagree what tunomura said , As businessman view , Daihatshu investment money and technology in Perodua . Of couse D have to make
good return to company . As the Local partner they gain skill and sharing profit in their busniess as well . Same time provide few thousand jobs to local
ppl and also hundred thousand supplier , vendor or contractor . If you think
local P2 can run this business by themselft without Japaness advisor or mangement in order to get higher market share with severe competetion ? Do
you think P2 director or share holder is stupid to let japaness to get all profit ?
This is win-win situation for both party . D teach or transfer car manufacturing knowledge to P2 , ofcouse japaness allowances is pay higher .
If tunomura teach japaness to make car , of course you will request high pay compare to japaness . It is so simple answer what you cannot understand !!! If you what to get more from them therefore you need to work hard and develop your own car by yourself without japaness help . Proton already more 20 years , still depend on japaness , korean ,lotus conslutant . P2 what can be expected ? Only suggestion automotive malaysia manufacture have to work hard (double speed)as japaness or korean attitude . We hope one days national car manufacture can invest to japan island .
Second things regarding car safety , what can u expected 50~60K car price in order to get the safety spec equivelant to BMW , Volvo standards ? If the comsumer aware the safety is important for his life , go for buy this category car . Through market competition among car manufacture , so they have to increase or add in advance feature in the car specification to attract the buyer of course price and quality is the main concern for consumer .
thank you .
Y SO EXPENSIVE !!!
should be sell 30K below !!!!
dun forget car tax is cause the car price higher!!!!!!!!! Y ??????????????????????????????????????????
woi… suzuki apv 1.6turbo korang da tengok??? lagi cun bro… sodok angin punye mpv… stakat nak sodok mpv produa ni… cungkil gigi je bro… huhu…
Yalah yalah..
But u hardly see Suzuki on the road…
If u didnt mention, I don't even know got this brand sales in Malaysia…
1.6turbo? U need only…. But, still thanks for sharing…
Not most ppl need…. & it won't sell here…
if got selling here also RM 10 & above… look at honda Jazz & toyota Yaris 1.5 only RM 10k+ whats the point…
who so rich theb can buy it…. poor ppl only can buy Myvi loan 9 years… Sad….
RM 10k & above… miss the "K"
Just love what 'car-insider' said. Very wide view. 'Bubbye' sound so stupid. "sodok mpv perodua"? what nonsense r u talking about? its like matching a fight between a cat with a tiger. Talk logic la wei….So much truth with 'kc'. I used to own a suzuki bike only.
I have read everyone comments…so interesting. Decided to buy it. But can we really book it now? how? thru that guy who left his number >?
design really sucks.why perodua only know to take a car from japan.then sell it under their name.i know daihatsu own perodua.but they should manage to try their own design.i know people will by this,but when daihatsu/toyota own perodua,half of the profit will go to them and this will not help our country economy.instead making japan richer and richer,i know all of us like perodua more than proton because low maintenance for perodua,proton need time to improve their product,perodua no need to think about their quality cause they have japanese technology that really long-lasting.so YOU GOT BRAIN.THINK YOURSELF
design really sucks.why perodua only know to take a car from japan than sell it under their name.i know daihatsu/toyota own them.but we cant always ask for their 'help'.when daihatsu/toyota own perodua,maybe half of the profit will go to them,this will not really help our country economy,instead makingjapan richer and rucher.i know all of us like perodua more than proton and proven in our country car sell list.because low maintenance for perodua's car,cause japan engine technology is a long-lasting engine.i know most of us know problems with proton's car.but they need time to improve their products quality.so..YOU GOT BRAIN.THINK YOURSELF
Yawning…yawning…hello 'unknown'. Hav u been reading all d comments? Ur comment seem to be repeating what others hv thought. Ur answer: Refer 'Car-Insider' comments on 2nd Okt.
We all hope our local manufactures can be independant. Proton seems to be taking a step. We all gave them time right? P2 still learnig how to walk. But they hav passed the crawling period right?
I myself also hoping that others (newborn/korean replicators) like Naza, Inokom, will someday become manufactures themselves. So this might as well improve the market's competition.
nampak bagus…. tp seat belakang x tnjuk pun… perbaiki la sebelum keluarkan production. jangan main tiru je bulat-bulat dari jepun. perlu amik kira komen ni coz pembeli skarg ni bijak. kadang bosan gak asyik tukar bumper, tukar bonet, tukar lampu, proton plak design bagus tapi material teruk mcm mainan plastik je (bhgian dashboad). P2 bagus material tp copy paste. BANGUN LA WAHAI PERODUA 1 MALAYSIA!!!!!!….. Jgn duk asyik mengEKOR je…. biar la kite yang mengKEPALAi plak….moga komen ni dapat diambil kira demi 1 MALAYSIA…..
agak-agak bile nak kuar perodua alza SE???? mcm Myvi new version. tambah la aksesori yang sporty sesuai tu umur awal 30an n 40an… menarik tu…
Tu la 'Apple green'….P2 ni pun nengok pasarannyer…sape sasarannyer. Ramai gak yang dari kalangan muda mudi ni. Berdasarkan pengalaman sy & observation sy dr kalangan kwn2 sy yg memiliki myvi @ kancil @ kelisa ni, sy dpti dieorg lebih suker bentuk yg P2 sediakan. So that dierorg mudah nak convert ke Passo ke, Boon ke, Mira ke atau Cuore. Maklum la. kalau nak beli full import, mahal. Nak mcm keter jepun ( wannabe) so kene la beli barang2 aftermarket. Lepas pasang terus jalan.At the same time bole la jadi keter yg xder persamaan dgn org lain (identity tersendiri). Maybe someday la P2 ni nak wujudkan identiti sendiri. Biar negara luar lak yg carik barang aftermarket dari kiter.Kan……
gen2 grey gua lg best….
If the seat behind really looks like Passo, mati ler ! Fugly tak terhingga.
Selagi kita beli P2, maknanya kita beli produk Jepun. Orang Jepun ni, memang ada jati diri yang kuat. Semua produk dia, mesti guna parts dari company Jepun juga sebab mereka nak bangsa dia terus maju dan kaya. Kita tunggu jer P2 kelarkan produk dia 100% macam proton. Kita pakai jer kereta yang kita ada sekarang sampai P2 dapat hasilkan produk mwereka sendiri ataupun support proton. Biar kita guna kereta dengan penggunaan yang betul. Kalau nak race, pegi tempat yang betul. Modified kereta kita hanya untuk race, bukan nak menunjuk kat jalanraya. Biar jadi rakyat Malaysia yang dihormati dan disegani. Biar kita jadi pengguna yang berkuasa, daripada jadi pengguna yang asyik diguna-gunakan pihak tertentu. Wake-up Malaysian…
MYVI MPV meaning a lot for 1 Malaysia…
Congrate Perodua…
I'm proud of u…..
theeee……………..
I saw the photos of this MPV already…
Without body kits & spoiler, it really looks normal lah….
but if RM 59 to 65k with full accessories… really worth to buy…..
may consider a white one…
P2 the ugly rims really must go, looks suck….. Ugly!!!!
Don know when this start launching…. i want to see this car first then only booking…. cepat cepat kel;uar la…..
hai,
selagi model ni x kuar,xde dalam showroom pendek kata x nampak,xrase,x test drive selagi tu aku x pueh hati………sebab bende yang nyata,benar,rase perbezaan nye itu la yang betul2 memuaskan hati aku dan mrka yg benar2 tahu………
Hey kate nak klua bulan 11 ni?! Mane dier?
Off topic sikit. Selalunya orang Malaysia beli kereta nasional design based Jepun (proton wira = lancer, perodua myvi = passo) kemudian beli barang after market nak bagi nampak macam beli kereta tu import dari Jepun. Hangpa rasa ada orang Jepun yang pakai kereta Lancer, Passo tu import aksesori dari Malaysia supaya bagi nampak sama macam Wira dan Myvi kita? Heh, heh, heh..
What ever u all comment about 1 MALAYSIA…still its our best products for malaysia people..choice. juz to need is from all malaysian people supported for product from PROTON+PERODUA+LOTUS=PROTUS.
New BRANDS, for export products..who know, somedays this product can bit other cars as ferrari..
Haaaa….they say, its going 2 b launchd on 26th Nov. betul ke?
cantik..pada mata saya,
kenapa org kita suka jatuhkan produk sendiri, tak mcm itali,german,jepun. rakyat mereka banggan dengan barang tempatan.
kesian kepada org yg mengatakan kereta ni tak cantik, sebab mereka ni tak waras macm org lain. perodua akan bagi free ticket ke Kemboja, boleh tinggal terus kat sana..
bagi lah comment yg membina agar perodua akan terus maju.
harap perodua kaji, org usa suka ruang luas, tapi org asia suka tempat barg luas. mpv yg ada dipasaran sekarang kebanyakanya ruang barang sempit.
good luck perodua…
( saya mahu order satu )
qwerty
perodua….name pon perusahaan automobil kedua, so?..mmg ssh nk jd no 1 lar..hehe..sbb 2 x lepas2 dr copy jer..kpda p2 belajarlah buat benda2 yang ade kualiti dan yang paling utama ciri2 keselamatan..contohnye perodua usang kancil, keta jtuh longkang calar sket jer..tp dashboard dh pecah terbelah 2..ape cite?..bukan nak mengutuk tp…lu pk lah sediri,,dah lar mahal, hentikan 'jual karipap dgn harga pizza' k..orang skarang dh ramai yang cerdik pandai..
berusahalah PERODUA demi 1 malaysia..
apa2 pon lancer 2.0GT aku lgi beshhhhhh….
poyo lah ..sokonglah syarikat tempatan,ble malaysia nak maju,asyik nak kondem jer! bodo!akai tarak!cakap jer 1 MALAYSIA,pengertin tak tau,sedap sebut ajer,syrikat luar,puji,bangga2 kan sngt, macamla lancer 2.0 gt tu bagus sngt,uwekkkkkkkkkkkkkkk………. orang dah nak potong,kiter br nak pakai,tu pun bangga.xtau teknologi xyah complain banyak la,x salah belajar,nak tulis huruf A dulu masa kecik2,pun nak tengok dulu macammana bentuk huruf tu baru la tau macammana nak tulis,pkr la,jgn ckp lu pikir la sendiri,itu macam mati sendiri tanam la,bodo! cakap nak identiti sendiri,bahasa sendiri ade,sebok nak guna bahasa org lain,pikir la bende tu,cakap,complain,kutuk,kondem mmg pandai, padahal habuk pun tarak, akai tarak,tarak guna, syarikat malaysia dah mampu untuk memebuat teknologi sendiri,kau bagi modal tengok,ape bende pun boleh buat la,
TOLONG LAH FIKIRKAN YG TERBAIK UNTUK NEGARA KITA,JANGANLA ASYIK TERPESONA DENGAN KEMAJUAN ORANG LAIN,SEHINGGAKAN DISAAT KITA SEDANG MENINGKAT NAIK,KITE TIDAR SEDAR, KITA SENDIRI YG MEMIJAK NYE UNTUK JATUH KEMBALI, 1 MALAYSIA BERSATU,BARU BOLEH MAJU..
UNTUK PERODUA DAN PROTON,SAYA BANGGA DENGAN USAHA GIGIH ANDA. KAMI SENTIASA MENYOKONG ANDA.SEHINGGA KE KEMUNCAK KEJAYAAN
Bodoh bangang lah you all smua . . apahal you all smua gaduh pesal kereta..baik you all fikir mcmana nak cari duit beli kereta. Bodoh lah you all smua.PALUI… PALUI..
agree… hehehe
You lagi bodoh bangang! We all bukan gaduh pasal kererta, we all 'give opinion' pasal kereta. Bergaduh involve fizikal tetapi give opinion involve pendapat. Apala you. Orang melayu konon. piiiiiirah! By the way, anyone want to buy my Exora? Only 1 month old. Full spec. Rugi pun rugi la. As long as I can get my hands on this exciting perodua MPV model.
Ha ha ha….padam muka….show off lagi kereta korang. Lancer la, GTa la, GTR la, turbo la. Wa pakai kancil gak bro. dah 12 tahun lenjan . Kadang2 buat angkut batu bata , simen, pokok bunga, pekerja buruh. Boring2 layan corner main 'slide'.(x bole drift sbb pacuan depan). Tapi ini kancil masih berjasa. X byk ragam. Masih standard. Dah abis bayar..x nak jual..rugi.
Walawei Akun…aperciter? Apsal jual exora? Wa pakai exora ok jer. Aper lu nyer komen pasal exora sampai ko nak letgo?
nak mpv murah? kete luar? pakai la chana era. rm38k je. reban ayam bergerak