You have seen the facelifted Proton Saga from our Thai Auto Expo 2010 coverage earlier this month, and now it’s the Malaysian market’s turn to get the car. Unveiled by Proton MD Datuk Syed Zainal moments ago, it is officially called the Saga FL.
From the boss’ speech, and the new features, we know that Proton is trying to get the younger crowd to consider the Saga as their first car, urban middle class folks that would otherwise buy a Myvi.

The Blue Rock colour you see here is one of the two new colors (the other is Cafe Latte, a light brown hue), and is the same colour as the Thai show car. There are now two trim lines – Standard and Executive – down from the previous three. Manual (5-speed) and automatic (4-speed) choices are available for both trims, which mean that there are four possible configurations.
Powered by the same 1,332 cc Campro engine with 94 hp and 120 Nm, the Saga FL gets Proton’s new face, which will be sign of things to come. As detailed before, the new exterior consists of new lamps front and rear, new grille, new bumpers on both ends and new design rims. Standard variants ride on 175/70 R13 wheels while Executive FLs use 185/60 R14 rubber.

Most of the new features that the FL gets over the old car is for the Executive. They are dual airbags, steering audio buttons and USB/AUX ports for the Clarion MP3 stereo. New goodies available on both trims are side mirrors with LED signal lamps, rear power windows, rear LED tail lamps. The rest of the Executive-only equipment includes driver’s seat height adjuster, powered wing mirrors, fog lamps and slim rear spoiler.
The new Proton Saga facelift is now available in four different variants – the Standard M/T and A/T as well as the higher spec Executive M/T and A/T, which is one grade level less than the pre-facelift Saga, which was available in N-Line, B-Line and M-Line. Effectively, this means very basic N-Line with the cheapest price tag and the black bumper is not represented in the new line-up.

All models have the front and rear power windows, MP3 function for the audio player, and the side mirrors with LED turn indicators.
What the Executive model adds over the Standard model are the USB and AUX input, the dual front SRS airbags (Standard model doesn’t have any airbags), steering wheel audio switches, driver seat height adjustment, electric door mirrors, fog lamps, rear spoiler, a multipurpose container and side protector moulding. Wheels are alloys wrapped with 180/60R14 on the Executive, and steel wheels wrapped with 175/70R13 on the Standard.

The engine and gearbox remains the same as the pre-facelift Proton Saga for now, however Proton has indicated that they will be rolling out an update to the Campro engine family sometime next year, and this update could include the new Proton Saga. The update will include improvements to the normally aspirated Campro engines as well as add a new turbocharged variant for models like the Proton Exora.
The Saga is available in Solid White, Tranquility Black, Genetic Silver, and two new flours – Cafe Latte and Blue Rock. Our live galleries after the jump are mostly of the two new colours so you’ll know what they look like.
Of course, the most important part are the new prices. Prices have gone up by about RM1,000 to RM1,300 across the board, which is not too bad a jump considering there’s an extra passenger airbag in the airbag-equipped models. In the price comparison, we’ll compare the Standard with the B-Line and the Executive with the M-Line.
| Saga | Difference | Saga Facelift | |
| 1.3 Standard M/T | RM36,998 | RM1,000 | RM37,998 |
| 1.3 Standard A/T | RM39,998 | RM1,000 | RM40,998 |
| 1.3 Executive M/T | RM39,498 | RM1,200 | RM40,698 |
| 1.3 Executive A/T | RM41,998 | RM1,300 | RM43,298 |
Story by Anthony Lim, Danny Tan, Harvinder Sidhu and Paul Tan.
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GALLERY: Proton Saga FL at the Thai Motor Expo 2010
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Sadly, the new nose makes the Saga looks like an aged Michael J Fox.
Sorry, Proton.
agree.. the first one is better than this FL version..
it look like proton send the car for ANCAP(Australia version NCAP) at crashlab sydney
Pointless facelift, i prefer they update or improve a bit the engine rather change the exterior…..
The dumb campro takes forever to pick up speed from standstill, so you will frustating if driving in city….Numb steering and leave alone the suck fuel consumption where the ten years old 1.6 WIRA beat it hands down!!
then go buy inspira..believe me this saga is not built special 4 u..
ahuh, and for viva/myvi, amazingly quick after traffic lights, but can even be overtaken by a lori balak after 50 metres
i don’t agree.
what do u expect from 35k – 45k car??
2.0 turbo engine??
or VVTi/V-Tec engine??
with lotus handling??
come on, be more realistic…
35-45k in malaysia off course you cant get higher spec, thanks to the high TAX on foreign car! if not i will be driving a ford fiesta, kia, pegeot and so forth.. Zzzzz
exactly.. i agree… the tax here is freakking high!!! im frm New Zealand, and my experience there, i can get a jaguar s type for 18 thousand secong hand!! brand new 67 thousand.. in malaysia, that car brand new here wil b 100 to 200K. DNT BUY CARS HERE!!! BUY FRM OVERSEAS!!!
loan pun dah buat…cakap senangla
If a 1.3 Saga consume more petrol like a 1.6 what the used of buying a low end car to save fuel rite. No wonder Proton continue making a fool with u its consumers. Fix the engine rather the design. Think we have the consumer power not PROTON
it true rite fr the first video at the near end..i don know y u all thumb down
This Saga FL is around the same price, but much much better than Viva Elite Executive. Perodua must come out with Viva Extra Emphasize Elite Executive Edition to compete with this Saga FL.
only if viva can be oversized like they did on myvi/alza :lol:
hey, did anybody have any info about savvy replacement??the project of savvy replacement had started since early this year i think..
Emas? replace Savvy??
well…i do agree with you even im driving viva elite nw….this saga FL is really good than viva n myvi…the space n all the accessories and the price..all good
alamak saga fl tak kan dapat bezakan dengan viva jer….
saga have grow up, with more handsome face macho style
p2 better think out something “edition” for self-help.
Your rating conclude that this FL looks better….
And people will continue bash and curse proton. And they might already using other brand.
Until one day, that so-called better car than proton started to aged, felt harsh and noisy, and got problem, and parts are expensive, then they will start thinkin whether that car really worth more, double, or triple compared to this Saga.
Oklo,for me lah.for average malaysian needs.
i like this FL.. its better..
and your base of liking SFL to Michael J Fox is?
Wow fifteen, u can see a human face out of a car…u hav such “powerful” eyes ya…=.=
Michael J Fox? You’re mocking my hero. :P
u have a powerfull eye dud,,coz u can see human face on it….hahahaha
im considering convert this FL into honda ACCORD….=) the old model,ive convert it to SUBARU [SAGARU]..impressive aite??
i think this is more sagaru la… try view it from distant, really resembles imprezza
Agree. As it is in the group of low class and slavery series, we cant expect much…
The quality make no difference to the saga ( double stupidity ) launched back in 1985.
As chinese says, dogs cant change their shit eating habbit..
What car do u drive really?
Hmmm..
I bet that his relatives who drove Saga & Myvi are slaves and low class :)
How about your parents who i would 100% bet bought a Saga as their first car. Are they also low class which brought up a son as low class as you? :)
maybe veyron suits u, mi lord? :P
I think the price increase is very minimal compared to the additional feature included in this FL. Good.
Besides a redesigned front end (which should be costly, from drawing to mould etc), they able to squeeze in another airbag, rear power windows, power side mirror, etc.
I foresee Proton will get a good volume out of this facelift. But please remember Proton, higher volume could affect the quality if you’re not careful.
balanced comment , good
I do agree with you.
Please P1..don’t forget about the quality of the material being used for all of your line up. Other than that, the way the fitting in the car also must take into very carefull attention. Don’t just fit in for the sake of the volume.
Anyway..nice facelift with a little increase in the price.
Salam…
wise words….
put nuclear engine and back to the future!
cantik.tapi baru seminggu je saya pakai,alarm dah wat hal.menyesal beli..
out of thousand who buys saga you’re the unlucky ones…sorry to hear but there is a lot of others that doesn’t have any problem with their saga…
I’m sure they can come up with a better name than the Saga FL
no need..FL is for facelift..is just a facelift,no need a new name..
When it comes to naming, hand them over to P2… you’ll get texecutive elite limited edition bla bla bla suffixes…..
this should be the new ‘Saga Iswara’, just like in 1992 lol
dangerous… later the iswara curse make us live with it for another 20 years…
totally agree with u, alex..
:)
sigh… price Increase…..
ok wat.. only up abit for whole new facelift..even the executiive only rise rm1.3k….
not like P2.. touch abit only(bumper then, bla bla bla)….. then price go wahlao
ok what.. only add rm1.3k to the executive one.. it is new facelift(i mean “face changed”)(they need do designing again)…. not like P2…only touch this and that on the exterior … then price go wahlao.. haiz..
just 1k++.. reasonable i think..
it’s not only reasonable it’s good!!
this THIS IS WHAT FACELIFT SHOULD BE!!
not like perodua or toyota…
minor touches..increase price up to 3-5k of price…
kudos to proton on this !
of course laa.. what do u aspect? proton would decrease the prices??
the first 1985 saga are sell for around rm30k… today was 25 years later and the b-line manual are still selling below rm40k…
no,,
first edition 1985 Proton Saga sell at RM17500 OTR.
Then for 50 years of Malaysia Independence, Proton sell Saga Aeroback at RM27000 OTR.
hmm, you must be misinformed, Malaysia was formed in 1963, so it will only turn 50 in 2013.
LOL some people just don’t know history of Malaysia. Bro, some still confused with Malaysia as Malaya. He ha no wonder proton sell damn expensive here in Malaysia compared to overseas. Why? why? may be one can ask the fat and filthy rich executives!!!!
ask your mother how much is the sugar price 50 years back
you don’t expect to get nasi lemak now at 20-50 sen like in 1980s, do you?
22 year x 2-3% inflation = 44-66%. RM17,500 is RM25,200-29,050 after 22 years. so, the price is about right.
typo; ‘expect’ la weih. not ‘aspect’~
People who buy budget car like this one here, Only care about the Price Tag, all these Facelift comes with a higher price is really pointless. Still a good old cheap looking car for commuting purpose..
wow!
Well done proton! look much better from the front view..
well done proton!!!!!!!..that’s what i want to say…sigh..
Hmm..nondescript, .funny-looking car. Hahahahh..
u are just jealous.. haha!
this is what a ‘facelifted’ car suppose to be
not like THAT car company
just redesign the bumper, ,recolor the interior, and offering more color for the model to absorb more money from the customers.
So, next time realease a model with less items and then release full items for FL. Then you get credit for a proper FL???
kalau dah 1st model dah isi complete apa lg yg tinggal utk facelift?
kalau tukar bumper dgn headlamp aje kau bising ckp setakat tukar tu aje?
ni facelift tambah byk pun ko bising jgk..
buat kete sendiri la..
Proton must listen comment & complain only can grow up
I think proton is tistening to that comment and complain. But I thing many will agre with me that we cannot satisfy everyone.
dulu saya kutuk proton juga sebab saya kecewa dengan prestasi proton.
tapi sekarang saya rasa proton sudah berubah. Model persona dan saga fl ini mebuktikan yang proton boleh meingkat maju dan saya bangga dengan proton.
I’m proud to be a Malaysian and I’m proud to say that proton are able produce a good+100 percents Malaysian made car.
But I think proton your response to us and defy critics with more suitable improvement for years to come. Cant wait to see newly hybrid proton EMAS.
Im enjoy watching Perodua Meevee (not Myvi)being an object of jokes in Top Gear
also Mr BEan Kelisa being thrown till dead several times.
agree..
agree with u
ugly ler.. i think its the headlamps that does not match the body…. the previous model looks much better
Agree. Headlights look ok from the front but the side view just doesn’t jive with the rest of the body.
beauty is at the eyes of the beholder
I don’t like the front. The headlights seem a bit off and the whole thing has a “squashed look” to it (macam kena penyet). Everything else is ok though.
I don’t see why ppl dislike my criticism. It’s not senseless criticism. If you look at it carefully, even the silver thing in front (like persona) is out of place, and the headlights terlampau tajam in the middle. But I do like the rear…
simply because they can actually dislike your criticsm. u can dislike my comment too, i wont complain, but if i get more ‘likes’ i will be happy :D
i think u better look to latest model oh Mercedes Benz W212. it have great executive looking. they also the penyet thing at the front grill. its ok what?
have they fix the ultra long throttle response time of the saga yet? if not den how are they gona make saga appeal to any buyer??? Fix the problem not the face. BTW, im not proton basher.
correct. i drove one and it’s kind of turn you down when you first rove it. we can adjust to it though but how would proton expect other people especially the young ones to like this car…. i remembered a would be engineer of mine bashed the throttle response like there’s no tomorrow. he ended up buying Myvi…. which he also bashed before that…
a would be engineer…bought a myvi after he tested both cars. No wonder he’s not “AN ENGINEER”…hahahah
do u & your engineer wannabe know how to use the campro engine? what are the difference to high-rev on both engines? 1 tips to feel the real power..please tailgate a faster car at 5000++ RPM and keeping up with that car when he tries to get away from u. DO this to both engines and see which is the winner.
nice attempt by proton
congratz Proton..
he facelift is even uglier is not an improvement, its so dam ugly
Beauty is at the eyes of the beholder
for instance, I tpersonally think the new Honda City is ugly..really ugly..especially the car is manufactured by 1 big global japanese company..
Then again, Beauty is at the eyes of the beholder
Tahniah Proton
Hopefully no one will complaint about the number of led used for the rear lamp, like Exora last time..
‘Aiyaa, why they use 10 led for the rear light…..”
Another overpriced junk in Malaysia. When will this ever end??
how much d u think the better price?
maybe he wanna suggest 10 cent i guess….
he wants it Rm 5000. And have ALL the proper creature comforts and safety equipment.
i can sell my 1991 saga for 5 k. wan ah? :D
The old MMC Sagas, though basic, were actually quite hardy cars. Wouldn’t mind getting one if I was looking for a cheap 2nd car to run around with.
I got 1988 Saga 1.5I for 4k, u wan? Oklah, I tambah ori 13″ rim plus wheelcap lagi free
After reading this page, I see that
1. All topics regarding Proton and Perodua will attract at least 1,000 comments
2. The bashers will compare with Vios or City (dey, itu berape harga?)
3. Got 2 airbags, complain no ABS. Then got ABS, complain no ESP, and the list goes on.
4. Some comments like “plucking from the sky” without no idea what they talked about.
5. All comments will either in Autobots’s camp (pro) or Decepticon’s camp (cons).
6. Me like to read. Got P1 and P2 at home.
Maybe 10K would satisfied him!
masih murah lg,, berbanding dengan viva 850.. yg ni 1.3cc dan ada bonet yg besar..
Do you think Perodua price their cars better then Protons?
if u think this is overprice. go buy viva. the cheapest version is about 24k. i think u can afford it.
think before u comment. there is nothing cheap with decent quality today.
overprice?? then what’s the resonable price? 10 cent?
still no abs?
Airbag is a good thing, but still no ABS in all model.., Myvi got ABS.
wat ABS ?? ABS = Aku Brek Sendiri
XD
then,
Saga FL still doesnt include multi-directional air cond blower.
why Proton S16 fitted with this?
Pls answer my question PROTON!
wat r u talking abt bro?
do you even know what is multi-directional air cond blower?
it’s a blower that currently equipped in saga and pre-fl.
if you cant adjust your aircond blower mean that your blower is stuck. if you can pusing2 to other direction, then it is multi directional aircon blower.
nope I didn’t mean that.
What I mean right now Multi-directional of air cond blow out. Eg. front mirror, upper blower, lower blower. Why PROTON does not include this as a standard?
Even Kancil fitted with this.
Can someone with clarify it?
kalo ko maksudkan yg itu, yes BLM ader..
upper blower yg kat dashboard..yg tala kat cermin depan pun ader, cuma yg tala kat kaki je xde.. oh ya, blower penumpang belakang mcm exora tu pun xder..
old saga got. but how many of us use it? why fit something people wouldn’t care of?
it’s hard to say. no bias, P2 cars are quite expensive.but compare 4 years old P2 & P1 cars with daily under the hot sun. look to the door’s rubber and all everything made from it, look to the wiper’s arms, all grey plastic surface, antenna,everything is tear down.. surely P2 car is way better and last longer. Im not bashing P1. I know it because i own Savvy. handling & FC is superb, but everything start to fall down after a few years. believe me.
they got big boot..
myvi harga dia berapa bang?
viva ada abs?
kenapa tak cakap viva x de abs? viva sama harga apa dgn saga..
klu nak compare myvi, compare kan dgn persona.. harga sama
persona ada abs…
lain kali, compare apple to apple bang..
jgn compare kan durian dengan pisang..
his compare is right..myvi and persona is different segment..
NO you wrong.. i know saga is 1.3L same with myvi also 1.3L.. persona is 1.6L and it was different class. but u cannot compare with the classes.. u have to compare the price.. becoz when u buying a car, u need to compare what car can u buy with amount of money that u hav..
MYVI 1.3 = rm44k to 53k; Persona1.6 : RM46k to 59K
VIVA 1.0 = average 40k; Saga 1.3: average RM40K
i know VIVA 660cc price are from 25k.. but im sory proton doesnt produce car such that, such nasi lemak kosong.. proton doesnt sell cheap cars.. they only sell affordable cars..
but if u think Viva 660cc is worth for rm25,000, just go buy it….
i like your explanation bro..
there will always be people that could not accept proton’s improvement.
living in denial.
xD
ya lor ..if you want to compare CC, then VW Polo or even Golf falls into almost the same bracket
Viva EZi got ABS la…
then just get Viva ..dont make noise
So we kenot have discussion at all now?
my viva ezi didn’t have abs…
im not saying that viva was a bad car, eventhough i am proton salesman.. viva was very good in city driving and also good for your 2nd car.. but saga, it good even for long distance driving and also good for your first car… becoz saga are more safety & more spacious..
yes, viva is best 4 2nd car..tell you a.. stupid ppl will buy viva for they 1st car…
but the dam2 ppl will buy viva elite.. batter buy myvi than viva elite lol..
( setuju ka for 2nd car )?
Really, saga for safety…?
Got no ABS also safety…think brader, think
What so executive about this saga when the ABS also cannot be installed…
Sangatlah budus nyer ini protong…
ProProton. Just say that Viva is a bad car. There’s no need to withhold that fact. At least the handling is crap. Thank God that Viva is my 2nd car. And thank God that my 1st car is a Proton. Sigh…
Viva where got ABS lah! Unless tomorrow they launch Viva Super Elite Exclusive Meletup Kaboom Hot Anniversary ABS Edition la.
good one, rosdi..
laughing terguling2 aku..
me too! laughing like crazy in my ofis!
According to Perodua’s website, Viva EZi got ABS with EBD & BA… unless i salah baca
i like!!! hahahahahaha
I am comparing it against Myvi because Paul is comparing it against Myvi..
“..Proton is trying to get the younger crowd to consider the Saga as their first car, urban middle class folks that would otherwise buy a Myvi.. .”
Besides, I don’t consider Viva worth considering at all.. only the cheapest model (the RM25K one) is worth buying (for low income group, Viva is much safer than carrying 3 kids on their EX5), the other Viva variants only mangkuk will buy..
agree.
myvi also got great handling.. in parking lot.
And its much more masculine looking that the Myvi or Viva. People don’t treat you like a wuss.
Myvi is one of the wobbly car I have driven. Confortable yes, but handling?
I totally agree with aerials .
I just went and check my persona i bought earlier about 1 month and notice the rubber on my side door that filters out the water is degrading… come on… just 1 month and it looks like its been 10 yrs…
the wiper is another one. it looks berkarat… damn..
I hope Proton will seriously consider about getting the proper material when building a car.
WHY PEOPLE SAY P2 IS BETTER BECAUSE THEY USE BETTER MATERIAL, YOU HEAR ME PROTON!!! DON’T SO CHEAP SAKE SUPER LOW QUALITY MATERIAL WHEN BUILDING THE CAR.
I CAN SEE THE TREND OF PROTON… IT IS FOLLOWING THE JAPANESE WAY OF BUILDING THEIR CARS EG. TOYOTA VIOS. THE INTERIOR IS FULL OF PLASTIC! WHAT HAPPEN WITH THE CROME TEXTURE?
After buying this proton… at first i like the car so much because of the design but i was hugely disappointed with the QUALITY and CONTROL and the MATERIAL used in this car… I buy it anyway because as mentioned, i like the design. Another huge disappointment is the driver car seat, it is so uncomfortable when driving this Manual Persona. Every time after driving it to and back from work, my back of my body will be aching, the lumber part, where as for MYVI which is used to drive gives me no problem.
i think it’s a gud news for BLM ver. owner..the price for “special” front n rear lights will dropping down…
resale value will be affected oso..
why proton always improve in their jobs XD
Frankly, the front looks better with the facelift.
However, if it’s still the same engine, a little let down.
4 adults into that car and additional baggage, the car will be tough to drive.
thats y we call it FL, not all new saga..
i wonder when are they gonna throw away the fugly instrumental panel and steering wheel design
I think they should call this Proton Saga Legacy, why? Look at the front, maybe this car was inspired by that model. I love the front so much, but the spoiller doesn’t fit the car well, I rather like it without any spoiller. Maybe it just my taste. But I belive soon, they can bring Saga to a better place by re-design the interior, several changes for the exterior and also improving it’s quality. With these, I’m sure Saga can take on Vios, City, Myvi and others. Well done Proton, can’t wait to what Proton can do in the future though!
IMO this saga is inspired by the iswara la I think..
true… the ori saga has more squared headlight than iswara’s longer looking… the current saga also more squared than this longer looking fl headlight.
from front side, the head lamp makes it looks like an accord…
setuju!
waaawww i must gets it,,so nice
i wonder when are they going to throw away the fugly instrumental panel and steering wheel design
nice improvement lol…..maybe suitable for low/middle income family…
Suddenly the old feeling of the Iswara is come back, for me at least. Some suggestions on this car, the front is abit overhang too long and the wheels are abit small, dont bash me about the wheels, I am not ah beng, just it doesn’t look right when fitted in Saga’s bigger car body, other than that, its a great looking car, keep it up Proton, waiting for more of your improvement in the future, especially the Persona Replacement model.
And oh, the ‘FL’ nomenclature is sexually explicit too. Heehee!
Hahaha.. should be ‘FJ’. Much more interesting :p
Haha, if you know what FL means…
Saga fr*e l*nce? Like Sunway err, ok better dont go there
Overall a very decent upgrade for Saga FL consider the equipment included. The upgrades does justify the price premium. Great effort P1.
Unlike P2 coming out with all kinds of weird edition they could think of and ripping people off.
Pity the pre facelift customers. miss out the airbags, rear power windows and many more. they should have just added the rear power windows from the beginning.
the pre-facelift owner pay RM1000 less than this FL. besides, i rarely wind down rear windows. about airbags, some people would pay RM70k for Vios J which don’t have any airbag. but yeah, dual airbags should have been minimum standard in all cars by now.
Vios USA version got 6 airbags.
Toyota only care for consumer in progress country but only know about profit first with less safety on developed nations.
Think about it.
not Toyota but UMW :)
USA got vios? ha ha truly bullshit..
this is the proof my man;
http://www.toyota.com/yaris/trims-prices.html#/?view=showroom&vehicle=2
agreed..i mysefl feel nothing..coz this is normal when buying a car..i wont wait for 2 yrs 2 get this FL.. mybe dual airbag, but not rear power window coz i dont remember when the last time i need to wind down it..
Looks like the subaru ver 10 in the front to me.
Different angle give different perception to the looks of every Car.
take a look at this Saga from the following pics:
http://paultan.org/photo/albums/Proton-Saga-FL-MY-360/001.jpg
This one looks a bit “penyek”.
http://paultan.org/photo/index.php?album=Proton-Saga-FL-MY-Exterior&image=100%25-FRONT_C.jpg
This one looks just fine.
watch video, saga fl look more cool … photo may have blindness
scr peribadi aku rs headlamp current saga aku lebih cool..
tp bila ingat control button kat stereng, dual airbag, led tail lamp cuma up 1K++ je, arghh..
tp x kisah la, compare ngn viva saga aku tetap best! :)
Proton, when you roll out the turbocharged engine, do not forget to develop safer cars for consumers and families that includes front, side and side-curtain airbags among its standard safety features, along with active head restraints, seatbelt pretensioners and force limiters.
I think many people will consider buying car based on safety rather than speed.
and lots of people will consider buying a car based on their budget…..
It should had released a year ago, now mine looks old!
myvi sales will be impacted greatly
The previous Saga looks better and sporty. This new Saga looks like China made and the rear lamp too small n kinda weird with saga rear wide body…
if proton down the price in the hiking malaysian goods price rise sure make some folks happy n be proton follower.
now my saga blm look aged
resale value might be affected
myvi sales gonna be affected slightly
ppl will wait for the so called- saga FL SE
well, I would say rm1.3 k difference in price tag from the old one is not that much considering Proton pretty much change a lot feature in this car..not like Perodua stupid myvi and viva so called special edition..good job Proton
Its the cheapest car available but still feel expensive…
refresh looks, good price.
Nice update!
Cannot really complaint becos of the price.
Fantastic..better than current BLM…a lot of improvement (4 pwr windw, air bag, volume cntrl on steering, new led lamps, side mirror led etc etc etc) and all this comes in just RM 1.2K increase from previous modell!!!!!! Good Goood……..
well done Proton
the front looks abit like the renault laguna 2003 model…check it online !
anyway its not soo bad…if u check forums there r not many problems with the blm…so u can say its cheap and pretty reliable transport….it wil stil sell like hot cakes…
From what we hear, next year should be a big year for Proton.
I don’t think anyone of us expected any big change for the new Saga FL (cosmetics basically).
However, as the new engines will roll out next year, it is then that we have to be harsh in our judgements.
With the entry of the Inspira, Proton has definitely raised the bar high and Malaysian consumers expect no less for the refreshed Exora, new Persona and Saga.
The Saga FL should do the job for now (cheap, handles fairly well and should prove decently safe -dual airbag model- for city driving), but A LOT is expected for next year’s rollout.
Good luck Proton!
hope they can make much more fuel efficient campro engine… especially d 1.3cc… if can fight2 with p2 1.3 engine sure win hands down 1…. huhuuuu
like the car, but fierce looking front is not matching with normal looking rear.
lovely!!! now we are talking about facelift…to P2 a.k.a viva-ridiculous-overprice-exclusive version..my middile finger is dedicated to u!!! ;)
People,don’t judge a car by seeing it in pictures,go check it out in the showrooms and I bet it looks better in front of your own eyes.
All Proton cars are not photogenic.
buy and suffer & who with me? hahaha
i prefer the old look, look like Dacia Logan now…the front look
nice…this is what i call FL -facelift- good job proton…..
When I first saw the photo of this new Saga, I hated it as well but until I saw the car in KLIM, I think Proton did quite a fantastic job on the actual car. Anyhow, Proton has yet to convince me to buy its product!
evrytime ada kereta tempatan facelift ke atau kelaur model baru je, korang kutuk. Dah takde kerja lain ke nak buat kat ofis tu?
wow…gorgeous Proton!!!
gud 2 have dual airbag and steering control button..
(+) Its good that they got rid of B-Line models
(-) Its really bad that proton STILL not offering Airbags, ABS, EBD , as standard on all models. There is no sign of progress, proton is just playing catching up with Perodua
If you see the link below… its a KIA picanto sold in the UK…. and please read ALL the safety features they are offering… I assume, proton saga will be sold about the same price in UK
http://www.kia.co.uk/New-Cars/Range/Compact/Picanto/Specification/Safety-and-Security.aspx
and heres a link to proton UK
http://www.proton.co.uk/
showing the price of proton savvy…
I guess we have to wait for another facelift for the saga to be complete
that applies to all car models in Malaysia la…not just Proton…
we all get sub-standard products because we have sub-standard policies…
nothing diff besides facelift and passenger airbag…i think the previous version looks better. keep improving proton…
that is why it is called facelift.
Paul any idea if we can integrate the interior of the Saga FL into the 1st saga? such as MP3 and the steering control?
The design of the fog light part will look better if it is something like sonata or camry. Camry used to be like what saga is doing now, but after the launch of sonata, they changed it.
it’s look better than before..
People who buy Saga SE will be really angry after see all this new SPEC!!!! demmit proton…
why should they? saga SE is good, especially the maroon one.
It depends la, how recent did they buy the car. Its the risk you have to take, because if you keep waiting you’ll never buy the thing at all! Happens to me so many times, from buying iPods, to iPhones, even my Honda City (bought it 3 months before they launched the VTEC version)
People who buy SAGA SE will be angry after see all new spec… demmit proton.. I use saga SE….
again congratulation to proton by doing nothing except adding side mirror with signal light, sports rim, etc…
FL – Fools Look?
What do you expect from a face lift? Heart transplant? Boob enhancement?
They expect the facelift would become a camry, then everybody claps. See how little new things on facelifted Civic, but everybody claps till die.
FL = First Love
I like this car!!
The price increase is justified for additional features. This is what we really call a facelift model.
so what u want proton to do?
put so many things then cut th e price??
u make your own car company la..see it..
He said justified…
mirror statement for bashers..i said..
this is what we called as a proper facelift…
Kudos to Proton…
TAHNIAH PROTON!!
Congratulation.. nice facelift!!
+steering radio button
+dual airbag
+4 power windows
+beautiful headlights!!
+cute rear spoiler
+sporty bumper skirt.
+..much2 value to money!!
so much competative price due to production scale of volumes..
GO PROTON!!
MAY GOD BLESS U ALL PROTONians..
show that car ass to the stupid bashers!!
Too Bad all of above does NOT influence the Performance of the car…
any mention of ABS?
who cares?
Not u apparently :)
well those overprice myvi le dont have abs also and price is more expensive than the saga fl
just book Proton FL, Value for money. Nice facelift.
they should force ppl to buy cars with airbags.
And ABS at least.
did you all seen a lot of accident lately where the car is with abs also bang other cars at behind and what is so big deal about abs.
reasonable price range. i bet alot ppl would buy and trash the car =P
They won’t trash their car. Most buyers just can afford a Saga. It is the cheapest sedan available. Low middle income families can only afford this to haul their kids around.
the power point’s point is very lame, seems like from a secondary school student.
Young executive making rm2000 above. well. this is kinda sad to hear this. its 2010 in malaysia. And its worse than 1990. young exe making rm2000 above, driving saga.
You can’t have a high paying job when the people keep asking for cheap products and we keep producing cheap products. Yet give big dividends to shareholders coz you can’t retain them if you don’t. So other than the big Price:Earnings Ratio the fundamentals of your business actually shows little growth coz all you do is cater for local market and becoz you have less Value, you are not competitive in the outside world.
Banyak cerita lah. Lu org semua tau tapi saja buat tak tau.
thank god its FL not FML. LOL
what’s the fuss
the price still affordable lah
wanna cheapest car? go build your own kereta sorong meh.
Good job Proton!!
Dun give a damn for what people say..they will never satisfy forever..even Proton give free their car..people still complaint and refuse to accept the free car..
Keep it up!!
Or REMOVE the fog lamp and add ABS
Tengok Proton Saga FL baru lebih ranggi lagi mempesona ni, terpikat pula saya… Tapi saya lebih minat versi hatchback… So bila Proton nak produce versi Saga Aeroback? Cadangan saya untuk Saga Aeroback ni, guna saja semua dimension pada versi Saga Sedan tu, cuma bhg blkg tu buat “slope style” (mcm Wira Aeroback tu), jadikan pintu hatchback, tambah rear wiper sekali. Jika ada version tu, pasti akan dibeli… iya weh…
dah ada dah. beli je GEN2.
If aeroback, what is the advantage it has over Myvi? Myvi worst point is ridiculously small boot. If saga also has small boot what is its selling point then?
Saga Aeroback’s boot capacity (rear seat not folded) = Saga Sedan boot capacity.
So Saga Aeroback’s rear seat should be folded type with 50:50 split (like Satria Neo, Persona ML & HL, Exora and Myvi) if the space of boot is needed to be accessed. So with this feature Saga Aeroback presents more advantages over Myvi, Viva, Saga and Persona BL…
saga aeroback = savvy
No no
Savvy = Saga Hatchback
Savvy NOT Saga Aeroback…. sebab dpn dan blkg berbeza sama sekali…
Look at this matchmaking:
Saga Aeroback identical (serupa) with Saga Sedan, as well as Wira Aeroback identical with Wira Sedan, cuma Wira Aeroback pendek sikit drpd Wira Sedan…
cheapest car with 4 door and boot with dual airbags,nice one
now more people have better protection with dual airbags,
Bagus!
Now let’s see what you get from the same Engine & Transmission of this car:
1. 11km/L (with aircond compressor turned off driving at 80kmph)
2. Severely underpowered at low RPMs
3. Windnoise, Tire Noise, Rattling noise after 100kmph (plus, the engine sound like it’s being worked to death at that speed)
I am already in the process of disposing this piece of SH*T.
Good luck to all new Saga buyers.
Hidup Proton!
Salam 1Malaysia.
how much ?
its a saga not inspira or persona…if u need more power then go for these cars or other foreign car…..Price goes to quality….
1. I assume U drive auto saga with that kind of fuel consumption.. so if compare with myvi then U right..
2. from my experience, compare with myvi manual 1.3 and saga manual 1.3 both have underpowred at low rpm.. but myvi feels less power than saga.. <– tried on hill climb at 2nd gear
3. i think myvi has better nvh, so wind noise and engine noise much better (quieter) in myvi. But for rattling noise, for me, saga is much better (less rattling) than myvi..
dude, are you kidding me? my Saga can get 35+km/L cruising on the highway at 90km/h
Are YOU kidding me? 35+ km/L or 82 MPG?
YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME AH? Don’t be stupid and post stupid things lah….
A Prius also can’t do that lah….u know what u r posting or not?
wooops, i meant ~15km/L
LOOL i was fast typing,sorry for the f*cking typo.
Are YOU kidding me?
35km/L = 82 MPG….
Even a Prius is not rated at 82 MPG la brother.
Don’t tipu lah….
“the engine sound like it’s being worked to death at that speed”
i don’t agree, my friend’s saga is just sailing smoothly saga at 100km/h
the front looks weird.. but a good try..
the car is still have bad FC. After having for close to 2 years… i’m clocking an average 10km/l while my myvi is clocking and average 14km/l.
Some weird problems such as noisy rear brakes and after twice brakes services and still it persists.
Engine sounds weird.. exhibiting some metal loose noise when the engine is push a little harder (at around 3k rpm). The sound as if some coins ran loose in the engine. After a few service, problem can’t fix and still persists..
Rattling noise right behind the steering wheel. Power window, still working but somehow.. it’s slowing down.. (electric motor is dying?)
Other than that.. the car is great.. great handling, great steering feedback, great drivign feedback, great stability and really living up to the lotus ride/handling.
but sadly.. the accumulated small things are giving the unpleasant feel of quality though.
may be, I may consider sacrifice the lotus ride/handling for better quality car instead. Like Myvi, it’s not great in ride/handling but so far.. after close to 160k milleage.. it’s still serve me well and no real problem other than the usual car servicing (which i do every 10k with semi synthetic engine old) .
your disc brakes ok? Careful now you have two reasons to crash.
1. Lousy handling
2. Bad brakes
Finally, do you know what happens when a MyVi crashes?
The car catches fire.
You will be cremated in that coffin of yours.
Good one bro, that makes me not the only one who experienced lousy FC for the 1st gen Saga BLM.
everything i like except for the new face and new tail lamps… i prefer the old saga’s design
Saw 2 units on a trailer heading to Proton’s Plentong Showroom 2 days ago.
great and affordable car for 1st time buyer
First
Bravo saga!!!
Please, no bashing
DSZ we the younger generation don’t buy Saga
cos it just not our cup of tea.
No matter how you package it,
Saga just doesn’t impress us one single bit.
Please do not comment on behalf of the young generation
I am one of the young generation so I know what I am talking about.
As for me, I think the Saga FL looks brilliant. I will want a test drive one day.
“we”???…did u ask all the younger generation bro?
different people different taste…maybe your ‘younger generation’ officemate like..
or it just u…whatever la bro..
After driving this junk for bout 40,000 KM…. it’s hardly to shift to 5th gear now…. WTF…… Good luck to all new buyers….no joke… truely, madly, deeply…..
Yeah,good luck to everyone who is thinking of buying this piece of crap.good luck in disposing of that junk of yours,buddy.I know I will…
mmmmm salesman?
My saga already clocked 80,000km every still feels like new. No rattling or what so ever.
What crap are you talking about. maybe you Perodua salesman? selling hard eeh?
ayo..i drove myvi manual transmission and the gear shifting is crap from the 1st time i bought the car. the 1st gear and reverse. olredi told to sc and what they did is just adjusting the clutch cable. sigh..
Im also experience with the same problem.
Harder to shift 5th gear in shift knob.
Now I feel better with shift knob. Just change the rod assistance in PROTON SC.
We got 5years warranty ma..
Match tagline !
After driving the saga for bout 40,000 KM… it’s hardly to shift to 5th gear now…. gearbox problem maybe…. the engine is rattling like hell now…. don’t know what trouble after this…. no joke…
Its easy to solve your problem. Just change your fuel from RON95 to RON97. Don’t use RON95 anymore. You must use RON97 for your saga right now.
did u do your service accordingly?if no,u should service your car.
did u drive your saga like no tomorrow?if yes,u should try driving your car behavely
Am wondering when will the turbo charged Campro engine for Proton Exora will be launched? Price, looks, features indication? Tks.
probably june 2011
What a shame Proton… selling a car in 21st century without ABS…
it s normal nah brother… coz have to see what is the buyer salary oso ma…. like vw…they introduce a budget sedan car in russia..it is without abs too
Vios J spec is also w/o abs, what a shame Toyota
if im not mistaken, Vios J is comes standard with ABS+EBD…only lack with SRS Airbag…
correct me if im wrong…
Vios J has ABS+ EBD + BA.
All these function really important when driving at highways and apply emergency brakes to prevent collisions.
i have been experienced once when a trailer breakdown at fast lane.
For these brake system much more important airbags when u are often using highways or driving faster.
But anyway, this Saga FL value added for money and could be better option as 1st car.
good job proton.
what value added more important than life….?
Nicely done !!! Looks good but engine part need to improve especially throttle response. Else marvelous…
love it!
wah…. nice car lar…. am should working hard to get this baby as my first car…. ^^
Well,…..DSZ is doing his best to pleased all malaysian but somehow the manufacturing side & tidak apa attitude has coused the QC to suffer.
Persone Sedan is a damn nice care. Design wise is ok. I think all CDK car QC memang teruk. Even Mercedez or BMW if its CKD QC is low. What to do we cannot afford an imported car. There are some lemon out there if you are unlucky you’ll receive a lemon. Its also true that if you are unlucky you also lemon can get a lemon imported car………
nice car…
This is one of the good Malaysian car. I’m using the old variant since 2008. Its good for value and money with adequate comfort. New face lift looks better then before. But i still prefer the old rear bumper… :)
white one looks nice!
nice!!!
I don’t mean to bash, but the design language of this new saga is a bit confusing. The accord-3 series front lamp does not translate well for this small car. Not to mention the awkward heightened appearance of the car.
As I see it:
(+) Presence of 2nd airbag
(+) Rear window power switch
(+) Value for money compact car
(-) No ABS or EBD
(-) Awkward styling
(-) USB head unit is sub-par in design and convenience
May look nice with some skirting and adjusted height though, but still we judge a stock car by how it rolled out the factory. If you’re planning to buy this Saga, better wait when they roll out the special edition with stock skirting. I hope they’ve straightened out the previous problems of this car (!).
If compare China made with P1 …i choose P1….If P1 compare with P2 …I choose P2….If compare P1, P2 with Japanese Model….I choose Japan….tat the human needs which cannot be satisfy…..kind of ugly…..front look like Prairie MPV from nissan way back to the 90′s…..
proton should re-design the dashboard, ppl spend more time inside.
the current dashboard make people think it’s cheap.
it’s a cheap (in term of quality, not monetray value) car. that’s exactly what people will think of it la.
nice looking car! i hope the driving at least getting close to Waja after all this years. I just realized i been driving my Waja for 8 years! its not so bad honestly although we always hope it can be better.
Its fuel consumption is worst than vios…
Dont’la u compare Saga with Vios.
Different category rite.
Vios price almost double to Saga.
So, must be better fuel efficient than Saga.
Its fuel consumption is worst than myvi…
of course lah. myvi tu besar mana? trunk size pun kecik. barang xboleh banyak..
kenapa tak compare FC dengan SAVVY je? apa la lu orang.
bawak kereta 140km/h, macamana nak save FC.
dah campro engine tu high rev engine, masa korang sedap tekan accel paddle tak pikir pasal FC plak. addhoii!
Savvy org dah lupa kot … very very very good FC, go kart handling but forgotten …
good handling and fc. but crappy tranny. sigh…
Myvi @ 140 km/h Also thirsty like Hell!!! 200km = 1/2 tank Petrol!!!
will buy one next month. confirm.
Exteriorwise, I prefer the old car. Some people might change the audio system to ge a nicer ICE with a seemlesly mounted USB kit.
The car has mmore kit compared to last time.
After 2 years and 120,000km, I’d say this Saga is value for money. Period.
whatever it is….beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder!
expensive..not worth
this is nice.. it’s good that proton are getting better.. but, srsly proton, is it really hard to redesign the steering wheel? just the steering wheel, bcause the mock-up plastic bolts on it is a waste IMO…
agree with u. I think proton should run ” designing a steering wheel contest” campaign la.
a great car with good price range for those low income to own.. congrats proton ^^
Why ppl are so obsessed by ABS? I like cars with no ABS… it feels ‘pure’……and it trains you to be better driver…..you anticipate your braking point…..you learn the car’s limits…..? If you gonna crash, u crash also, with or without ABS+EBD+VSC etc…. The point is if you drive dangerously, no matter what safety features the car have…u die also…..
Pls educate yourself on ABS,VSC technology using the video below..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-hHWSQhKuc
by the way, it’s 2011 soon, not 1980 now, stop embarrass urself lolz
yeah man, agree.
dont be too dependant with ur ABS, more importantly dont be too confident with it. it avoids skidding. yes. but that does not necessarily means u ll not hit anything in any situation. especially in the rain.
u got to have the feel, when to release the brake and what to do when skidding. u cant learn this in an ABS car, really.
anyway, if u r stuck in a choice between ABS and no ABS, btter go for ABS la, of coz. but, for no ABS, its not necessarily a ticking bomb. it indirectly teaches u to feel the car more, response and control AND safe habits.
wau…
Viva Elite Executive RM 42K
Saga FL Executive RM 43K
buyer will go to??
is this baby inspira.. i see inspira design language at saga fl
exora turbo is under testing at road..northen malaysia..
Sorri..I like this FL design..not bad…guys..no need to gado2..p1 or p2…both relates to mssia flag la..if u like p1..buy..if u like p2 buy…IMHO..p1 is really taking afford to improve ttheir brand…not much can we expect for a car price at this range…pity to p1 or p2..ape bikin pon kene bash…the price iincrease abt 1k pon mau bising?
saga se body lagi cun rasanyer…
saga se lagi cantik body dia kot….
So this is another Smart Guy Gets it? so sure there is a lot of smart guy out there want buy this crap…
Dear Smart Guy…
Persona still, STEERING BUTTON PROBLEM, breaking problem(master pump faulty) a strange noise during fully turn problem,Alarm siren problem, Fog light burn problems n the list goes on.
says who…i am proud owner of persona….never happen to me at all
ok, not michael j fox but faint hints of the nissan latio sport.
haha..finally it been launched officially in M’sia!
=)….looks sporty with its new design…well done..
im goin to get it on Jan..haha.!
still is expensive… if AFTA apply…. then is cheaper… when government want to take away the duty and tax?
The price of cars do not depend only on duty import rates, excise duty and road tax but also component prices, completely knocked down packs depending on whether imported or locally made, currency exchange, transportation cost and insurance.
AFTA = Always Finding Taxing Alternatives
When 4% GST coming our way, 4% GST will be added to every component and transaction until the car reaches your possession.
Cars getting cheaper.. dream on. Dunno who getting bankrupt first, car loaners, banks servicing car loans or automobile companies.
GTS does not have compounded effects like that. For a manufacturer, you can set off your GST paid (when you buy input) against GST that you receive (When you sell output). So, GST only has a single effect to consumers (in best scenario).
Does the FL means facelift? Why are they so lazy to think of interesting names?
may be they don’t want to waste their precious time thinking a suitable name for a facelift.
ah..leave the name-giving to the perodua. they have good name each time :P
after name-giving contest fiasco prior to exola, they dont even try again to find cute names in future….. biasa lah, as u said, lazy protong
I might buy a potong car again IF all automotive players bankcrupt ^_^
Good Job proton, spacious, super ride handling, gud FC
im so not into this facelift, look boring.
however after i dropped by at nearest proton after work just now, my impression was change drastically.
the car looks so SEXY in real life. I say it true, the car not-so photogenic in photos but in real world are way different. take a look in flesh! peace ^_^
Rubber tapper car in the making…………but somehow nice move Proton…..
Today rubber can sell Rm6.50 per kg
If you collect at least 25kg per day your income is RM162.5 PER DAY with only few ours working only.
If you lucky no rain you can get RM4875 per month
That is MORE salary than some engineer being paid in Klang Valley.
cantik menarik tertarik kau memang dabooom…..
harga, luaran, dalaman, keselamatan memang ada kelas.
tahniah proton.
Finally we see the real facelifed.Sincere one
Seriously ZOMG fugly man! What is PROTON doin?! This is what you call 25 years of excellence?
I reckon the previous Saga looked way nicer and more pleasant .Now it looks terrible! Hideous! Looks like they took a few metal pieces and screwed them together.Horrible horrible horrible!
And my god,the Campro engine is one of the worst engines ever to be produced on planet earth.Can proton do something about it? No pickup,rough like a sandpaper engine,numb and bland steering wheel.Sucks fuel like nobodys business.
You call this car cheap?! It more like throwing away ur hard earned RM 40,000.
Seriously,if i were buying a car,i would wait for the all new Myvi with 1.5l engine.I dont mind paying more for a good car with a brilliant engine.It makes more economical sense.
This Proton seriously was rubbish.And now they made it even more rubbish!
Thats 25 years of excellence for you guys!
Oyeah,Proton fanboys feel free to bash.I know you cant wait to bash this comment.I love it when ppl bash.Keep them flowing!
damn you
lol
:D
Something you don’t like.. go away!
Don’t waste your time bashing Proton. The most you can only afford to buy 1 Proton car but Proton has sold millions!
Typical Myvi hardcore. Or Perodua salesman maybe?
Your comment just not making sense. Try again next time.
Btw, its a bit unwise if perodua come out with 1.5. Current model depreciation will be enormous. Current Myvi owner will have to bear the depreciation & will curse perodua like hell….
i dont mind paying RM36K -BLM….RM55K -Gen2…and RM75K-exora….all camtakpro…
and proud to tell u …all 3 cars still in my garage….still working great….daily ride to work (60km)-Gen2….300 000km++ in 6 years
wait for myvi 1.5? by the the time it come out, proton already put 1.6 turbo in their cars…
1.6 turbo can do 2.0 performance with better fuel consumption
1.3 turbo can do 1.5 performance with better fuel consumption
plus cheaper insurance
yay!
Talked like a total idiot. IF you don’t like the car, then don’t buy it. Just because you hate it, and you own two Mercedes, which i can’t afford, doesn’t mean you have the right to treat this car as if it has to be of your own standard.
Like me, i’m just a college student who loves his cars, and you should obviously know not everyone can afford a City or any car of that sort unlike you. In short, this is a car that fulfills your everyday needs.
And, on an unrelated matter, you said in many Korean car posts that Korean cars are rubbish and will never succeed? Think again. They won 5 awards in the recently concluded NST-Maybank Car of The Year.
Stupid? No, it’s people like you that are foolish, just spewing lies and refusing to acknowledge reality. Well, these awards come as a big smack in your face than. Serves you right for being such an arrogant douchebag.
i doubt u own maserati,those ugly, old ,non stylist myvi is the only thing u can proud off,daihatsu just smiles all da way thinking how fool malaysian people when they feel no need to redign new car coz malaysian just love that old ugly car..well done Proton!
proton is really busy these past few years…good job!!
No bluetooth? I rather trade the steering wheel audio switches with bluetooth.. Bluetooth is essential for handphone user and I guess everyone should have a HP now. PROTON, pls include bluetooth function in all the future model. PLS…
Got Class…..Got Value….i respect Proton……….
got class……got value…..i respect Proton……..
As usual the bashers are doing their job as they should do.
Usually this kind human can be classified as jealous and don’t want to see Proton suceed and no matter how far Proton improved,they still can’t accept the fact that Proton is improving.
Proton just launched this new Saga FL,but within hours or even seconds,many basher would say that this car looks hideous and ugly and the quality is the worst of all.
What can I say,bashers are bashers,they can’t change their mindset about Proton.
Well,we should wait next year when Proton launch their new engine and observe what will the bashers say about it.
Oh yes, bring on their NEW engine….
Let’s see what the fuel consumption is then…. 10 km/L anyone?
10km/l ?
even my current saga 1.6L with cams and exhaust get that in 100% town driving.
You ‘pathetic p2 salesman rhetoric Proton FC figure” statement.
deep inside bashers’ heart, they still sayang proton.
i knew it.
dont worry, we (supporters) really understand the situation.
let’s keep it as secret ok? ;D
Wify nearly 10 years old Punto Nouva with CVT beat this FL hands and legs down! Still stuck with the antique mitsu four speeder. Maybe signed contract with MMC Japan for X years with special incentives at the expense of RAKYAT yang di didulukan(back in TIME). CVT gearbox being offered to RICHER RAKYAT through MMC Japan reincarnated as INSPIRA in order to by-pass the protection.
Got Class….Got Value….we respect Proton….
Is that FL badge necessary? seriously…..
After driving more than 60,000 km, my sister’s trouble free 2008 Saga still going strong. Nice facelift.
Somehow this model remind me of renault scenia..I prefer the old one..
(dont bash..it just my preference)
since many are comparing it to the OTHER brand (p2-myvi), lets see a reason why MYVI is still around and changing colours and badges instead of changing body design:
1) Myvi is the fastest selling vehicle in Malaysia, and probably 50% of home-owners in your neighborhood owns atleast ONE myvi (or parked infront)
2) Myvi is selling like hot nasi lemak because of it’s reliability, design, practicality and economy.. im not being biased – i honestly dislike the little critters.
3) Why would P2 pay more to change its fastest selling car when they are still being sold out day by day EVEN when P1 is selling larger, cheaper, newer, fresher sedan??
Like if people from all corners are flocking over to your nasi lemak stall every morning at 5am, selling out fast, you know you are doing right and it tastes good. Why change the recipe?
Many people are still thinking that Myvi is a Toyota product, that’s why it is sold like hot cakes.
I guess there are 2 kinds of markets. The first car buyer and the second car buyer. I am the latter.
Today, I have a Myvi SE, which we got because we wanted a not-too-small city runabout.
If I was going to do it over and choose between the Myvi and the Saga today, I would still prefer to get a Myvi, I might consider the Saga for just-a-few-minutes, and that’s only because I think the Myvi auto is a petrol guzzler (for its size).
Having said that, I admit I have never driven a Saga for a considerable period of time. But if both cars are able to give me equivalent (or almost equivalent) results, I would choose the Saga.
If Proton could offer me a Saga with better economy (be it with a 1.6 engine or some weight loss) I would seriously consider it as a second car.
Oh yea, I am changing the Myvi in 2012….let’s see what Proton has to offer then.
Cheerios on the improvements made =)
hhmmm….should remain one airbag or pretension sit belt for driver..
hmm….should remain one air bag and pretention sit belt for driver in standard version..
to all . saga is only 1.3. give him a break. campro is like that one, i do think its not fun at all in the city. expect severe ‘underpowerness’ below 3K rpm (to some people). especially when the light turns green.
anyway, if u ignore it and just drive the god damn commuting thing, u l be fine. I ve clocked 50kms. actually, no problem. i am tired aredy to say this la that la. just drive it, enjoy the radio/music, talk to ur gf, mom. u ll be fine.
TIPS:
1. put the lightest rims u can find+less wide tyre. e,g lenso, kspeed, japan rims
2. install 421 header
3. use full synthetic oil
4. install throttle controller for nicer response.
5. tyre pressure: 230KPa front, 210KPa back
6. make habit stop at the left lane at traffic light. relax… u ll not get any prize for beating myvi beside u. let them win, let them syok sendiri.
7. try looking for other obsession. i stop obsessing cars, start being obsessed with music after 2 years not playing. this is really helpful and save ur money alot.
if you still not satisfied. don worry. nothing can stop you in this bolehland. go to DORI DORI and convert to 1.6cc. estimated RM3K… after that, PANCHUTTTT!!!! my fren convert already, wahlao with saga mad damn short ratio gearbox… u ll literally terpanchut!!
izit 230KPa front..210KPa for back…
better??? comfort abit? or?
soory…erm..the 230KPa for front and 210KPa for back tyres are for?
efficient fuel consumption? or? sorry…reason is?
proton suggest 210 front, 190 back.
but, if u put 230 front , 210 back. comfort still ok lah. u ll feel the car become lighter a bit. save fuel a bit.
our tyre can tahan up to 260Kpa if I am not mistaken la.
o..icic..thx =) woah..u r pro in cars?..haha
i will try it..thxthx.
no. ok dude, go try it. good luck to u
Well Done Proton, at least this model is design by proton itself, we should feel pround of this effort from the proton, but it doesn’t mean i will feel pround of the “INSPIRA”, however, good job proton.
Proton Design!? You did not know design out-source to KOREAN in order to fast-tracked project to meet deadline otherwise will be like the EURO 2 dateline not only mutiple delays but finally EURO 2M. BMW have to figure what is M – the X FACTOR?
yeah korean also ask ex-audi designer to design their car and also design studio at germany
this is the car for who just need a 4wheels transportation to go here and there and also for who with less $$$ but want more $$$ features. p1 should have redesign this car much better from the old saga. Our Tun did came out with amazing KLCC,KLIA,SEPANG F1, survive the Soros attacks, blah bla…but when comes to P1 cars…ERMMMM..maybe cars is his weakness??
klcc klia sepang IC all that design by foreigners bah. he decided that something need to be done and outsourced it, except for klcc, the rest have been less than impressive. proton, well we know all the sad tragedy that it is.
To this who say this car ugly it just ur own opinion only.
No matter how a car design is suck there is still ppl who like it.
This car really look nicer in real life compare to picture :/
BTW hope future proton engine is impress us…
I dont know how you people drive your Sagas, or just plain bashers?
Mine’s auto, and I get 9l/100km for city drives and 7l/100km for full highway cruising at average 100km/h.
How long have you owned it?
Australia has different standard of fuel consumption rating. it’s a combined cycle (urban, extra-urban and highway). Saga manual is 6.3l/100km, auto 6.6l/100km.
apa pun campro engine petrol makan sangat kuat. itu yg penting bukan FL. accord 2.0 JB-KL petrol RM45 sahaja. ada sesiapa boleh kongsi.
stock unmodded gen2 campro 1.6 plain.
KL-Mersing RM50 @ rm1.90/L.
average travelling time 4hrs.
open ur windows start menu & open the calculator to determine the average speed.
u buy a car based on ur preferences.
go for smaller car for FC. but keep in mind that FC is of lesser importance than ur LIFE.
if u ever drive the ayer hitam – mersing road, u’ll know want good handling is all about.
i’ve seen one white nissan latio hatchback nearly kissed the palm tree off the road.
my gen2 cps,kl—–>kota baharu–rm60,ade siapa2 boleh share.
saga mlm auto aku, Puchong -> JB = 3 takah (each RM12.30) = RM36 = 355km
speed average 100kmh
saga blm 1.3 manual s.alam -> kluang – rm55
average speed 140kmph…
silap ar tanya pasal highway driving, mmg campro best kat higher end speed
hehe, takat accord tu apa barang nak bangga sangat
satria neo kl-jb, ngam2 rm50. straight 170-190 all the way. night.
seen the car in the flesh looks really nice and upmarket.saga fl will eat out sales of viva.. and myvi too
myvi pros:
1. faster from from stop to go
2. good fuel consumption , like kancil
saga:
1. more stable at high speed
2. big boot
if the first car has fulfill the need to ‘balik kampung’ event, sure myvi can fulfill the specs for second car, for city / commuting car, not surprised it sells liek hotcakes
however saga can be good first family car though.
pros of myvi:
1. good fuel consumption
2. better pick up
pros of saga:
1. big boot for ‘balik kampung’ event
2. more stable at high speed
3. bigger headlamps
no wonder if myvi can outsells saga, if it’s meant for second car, most buyers do commuting everyday rather ‘balik kampung’ / long journey once in a month
saga is likely to be the first car, can cater both short and long journey, campro itself is rev-happy, good engine at higher speed, good on highway
pros of myvi:
1. good fuel consumption
2. better pick up
pros of saga:
1. big boot for ‘balik kampung’ event
2. more stable at high speed
no wonder if myvi can outsells saga, if it’s meant for second car, most buyers do commuting everyday rather ‘balik kampung’ / long journey once in a month
saga is likely to be the first car, can cater both short and long journey, campro itself is rev-happy, good engine at higher speed, good on highway
Not a bad facelift. Should appeal to the target audience. Though must admit at first glance, the front looks a bit like a 10 year old Honda City Type-Z.
I have a newfound respect for some of the people in this forum.
I respect them so much because they are so brainless by using facts which are obviously “plucked from the sky” and have the courage to post it here.
Eg:-
Look at the guy/girl who said he/she could get 35km/L with his/her Saga BLM.
35 km/L!!! OMG. That’s 82 Miles per gallon!!!!
That’s even better than a Prius with a rated 75 MPG city driving!!!!
Seriously?
SERIOUSLY?
Wow….
Respect man……
“Look at the guy/girl who said he/she could get 35km/L with his/her Saga BLM.
35 km/L!!! OMG. That’s 82 Miles per gallon!!!!”
please check back that comment.
that guy/girl said that was typing error.
the correction said 15km/l.
so, that show you just bashing people on old fact. not the update one.
scroll back la… lazy fella.
If you’re so clever, you’d notice that the correction is made 20 minutes *after* his bashing. Oh, maybe you thought he could see to the future that a correction was going to be made huh?
The above comment is sufficient to rest my case…….
And btw, i can accept if he/she put there 25 instead of 15 because of the close proximity of the 1 and 2 buttons…but 1 & 3? That’s a real gap….just thinking aloud.
You know… he/she have corrected that…. he/she said it supposed to be 15 km /L…. but mistype it as 35km/L due to his/her speed of typing….do check it back above there…
cheers mate =)
And they say “wow, Proton is getting better by the day!” after seeing a facelift.
I’m beginning to doubt the real identity of people who say these comments.
Seriously Saga FL is perfect,good car at good price!it’s 10x times better than Honda City!H.City kill ppl in the fire car!
Pls lah even if you are a true Proton supporter, don’t over do it. Saga better than City?
I have a Saga SE & City, City way better than Saga. Diff. class for different target.
The only thing Saga better than City is that Saga feels more spacious due the design. City feels cramp abit.
Don’t talk about the finishing, engine and tranmission as Saga is way out.
Its ugly
i like. much2 better than myvi. good job proton. but i still hope that car price in Malaysia can be lowered..
The rim design from the pre-FL? IIRC the rim gets new design when shown in Thailand.
looks so much better from the front.
Proton still producing cars?..i tot..they were supposed to closed down after loosing so much money in cheapo car and sell it in higher price?..heheheh….must be the gov help
are you from burma sir?
this is year 2010 and yes proton still survive and somehow kicking.
b18a nothing can be proud.. mencemar alam/bunyi
better sold to halfcut to african country
Proton you can done this to Saga, so to Sawi please. Don’t leave it as orphan!
good job proton.. 2 thumbs up…..:)
Ohyeah and I do know that deep inside those proton fanboys heart is that they only support Proton online. In real life, they dont even have the confidence to buy a Proton.
All pretenders here. I know its very easy to show ur support from the comfort of ur home and behind that Pc of yours. If so, pls make sure saga sales figures improve next year. Cuz what I see is that Myvi which os more expensive and so called has poor handling is doing way better than Saga which is cheaper and has ” brilliant handling” .
Go figure!
I like this comment……exactly how I felt.
Thanks.
i hv 1 saga blm 2009…b4 was saga 1986…
i used to own saga megavalve in yr 2000. wira in 2004. persona in 2008.
i am thankful.
I just bought a persona last month and I’m really proud to owned it.
of course, baru sebulan….see after 3 years…
i’ve got saga iswara since 12 years ago! nothing major issues ..don’t be sceptic!
Good for u, got mine in 2006……..it moves with lots of soothing mechanical noises n delightful creaks.
No joke but it has a used nissan brake pump n sachs touring shocks running on bridgestones AR10.
yeah go on! put your money where your mouth is and get your family to do the same!
Saga FL additional :
-rear power window
-audio switches on steering wheel
-usb and aux audio input
-led turn signal mounted on wing mirror
-dual airbags
-led brake lights
- muffler tip exhaust
WTH proton doing this.. just add 1K++. The pre-fl not got all of this goodies. But pay almost the same amount.
Why not put all this earlier on pre-fl saga. Owner rasa macam tertipu… They put their customer feel regret.
Looked at p2, although just redesign bumper and put new colour on their FL model.. but what they did will not make the pre-fl owner feel regret.
Shame on u P1… GTH la saga FL.
Precisely,…….I also kena like that before…..what to do…..fated.
Of course, heartache lah.
At least tambah 2k ke atau 2.5k, never consider the feelings who bought this model 6 months ago….haiz….
my neighbor also get screewed by p1 SALESMAN… He just bought old saga last 3 weeks…. they should tell la that new saga FL will be launch…. its not proton, its the people inside that make all the mess….
can not blame the salesman la.. i also bought persona se 3 month before persona elegance got out.. for those who want to buy a new car, better search for any news if they want to launch new model or facelift or what ever la..
That’s why you have to do your own research. Salesmen surely won’t tell you that new models coming soon obviously, he still have to clear old stock cars! Come to Paultan often if you’re looking for a car to buy, especially Malaysian makes!
truly agree..it is normal because their target is just to sell their product..as customer you should make research, n joining car forum like Paultan before get your car because in this technology world you can get information even 1 year before the car launched..try get info as much as you can n make decision then..
Everything about P1 never fails to attract a debate.
truly agree,
new model susah, no new model pun susah. sell same price susah, incresae price pun susah.
this is the main reason why proton iswara stayed 10 years without facelift (1992-2003).
or is it because they were unable to evolve the design further due to licensing agreements or that they were too busy making wiras.
for those who like to bash P1, they are actually whiners…. you like P2 go join P2 forumlah, you like honda join honda forum, you like ferrari join ferrari forum (wait some cant even buy tata nano, sure malu to go there)… proton forum is for those who can afford proton like us….. saga vs elite, of course i take saga – bigger, more comfortable..price almost same.
the fact that they join this forum actually shows their interest…just maybe they got some other personal interest…
why do you guys like to complain ah? doesn’t it tire you to complain?
seriously it wonders me.
Diff Salesmen attacking each other… ha ha ha… scare No bonus bcos their car dint sell well….
saya beli citra 3 thun lepas
harga masa tu 78K
cc 2.0
minyak banyak makan woi…
tengok Saga FL cantek plak
nak jual citra sayang milage bawah 40k km
Apa pandangan bro semua…..
booked it!! wait for my loan!! upgrade from my viva!! next year viva price for 2nd will drop really bad enough!! so, before new year.. i should be settle this first.. Luckly, my viva do not have to toppup…. just sell like that….
good for u.
aiyar, entry level model, don’t expect too much.
From the looks of it, pretty darn good.
People want LED, you get LEDs.
People like Renault Megane, you get the lookalike headlamps.
People like Subaru Impreza, saw some kids doing it with fake bodykit.
People like to bash Proton… who doesn’t.
But besides poor plastic quality, the car is pretty darn good for the price.
Fxxin Lousy Saga
Don’t waste your time in this 1.3 model.
This model will be half its value once they launch the so called turbo version.
Same applies to Exora users. Blame yourself if the value oso drop cos you
made a bad call !!
how do u know Saga will get a turbo engine ? Do u work in the Powertrain department of Proton ?
I agree. Mitsubishi turbo engine from Lancer line can easily fit in. Then can lap very fast. Even the old engine ” before it kembali ke rahmatullah” can be lap also, everytime using it full throttle. it will just sound like a sinful old slave, being drag out for putting to death, crying for forgiveness from the emperor…
yea, like to see if Proton put in 1.5L workhorse as done in Saga and Iswara before :-)
yea… like to see if Proton put in 1.5L workhorse as done to Saga and Iswara before :-)
it’s funny how everytime proton comes out with something there are pro-p2 bashers trying to ‘unjustify’ the viva/saga/myvi comparisons. some simple example lah:
1. you have rm6.50. what would you have for lunch?
a) a slice of secret recipe cake w/out drinks
b) fancy buns/breads (some roti pizza or sandwiches) and drinks
c) nasi campur with chicken/meat/fish and telur and veggie plus drinks
- here you pay the same price but if you choose fancy food you know you’ll be hungry pretty soon
2. if you want to eat nasi lemak ayam/nasi ayam, where would you go?
a) madam kwan’s/secret recipe (or whatever fancy place with rm15++ price tag)
b) chicken rice shop/rasamas/kfc/fancy kopitiam
c) nasi lemak ayam/nasi ayam tepi jalan/pasar malam
- here you get about the same portion. one bowl of rice, one pc of chicken. you feel full eating either one of them. you pay extra for the added luxury
so if you pay 40k go compare saga/viva/suria picanto/i10 lah, don’t put myvi in the list.
if you compare 1.3cc cars, myvi/saga (abs/no abs or whatever stuff you want to comp