Toyota Raize Space trademarked – 3-row Ativa?

Toyota Raize Space

It looks like Toyota and Daihatsu might have another DNGA-based product in the works, this time based on the A-segment Toyota Raize/Daihatsu Rocky/Perodua Ativa. A new trademark was filed in December 2022 for the name Toyota Raize Space.

While we don’t know for sure what kind of product the Raize Space is, it wouldn’t be too far fetched to assume the base product would be the Raize/Ativa. And when you add Space to that, you basically get a Raize with more Space! Is this a 3-row A-segment MPV?

Toyota Raize Space trademarked – 3-row Ativa?

Toyota and its associates currently have two different three-row B-segment MPV products. There is the Perodua Alza/Toyota Veloz based on the DNGA platform, and the Toyota Sienta built on the TNGA platform. These have grown to become relatively long now in terms of wheelbase – they all share the same 2,750mm wheelbase.

This isn’t far off from the size of other B-segment MPVs such as the Mitsubishi Xpander and the Hyundai Stargazer, which clock in at 2,775mm and 2,780 respectively in terms of wheelbase.

Here’s a comparison table of the Ativa vs A and B segment 3-row MPVs:

Toyota Raize Space trademarked – 3-row Ativa?

From the table, we can see that there are some shorter wheelbase 3-row cars out there. Honda managed to build a 3-row product making do with just a 2,662mm wheelbase with the first generation BR-V. Nissan even managed to build a 3-row MPV under 4 meters long with a 2,450mm wheelbase in the form of the ultra el cheapo Datsun GO+. Even Toyota themselves have an A-segment 3-row product based on the previous gen Axia called the Toyota Calya and Daihatsu Sigra, sold in Indonesia, with a wheelbase of just 2,525mm. We could see this Raize Space become a Calya/Sigra replacement model.

While it’s clearly not impossible to have a 3-row MPV with a wheelbase under 2700mm, it would require careful engineering and design considerations. With a shorter wheelbase and overall length to play with, there will be compromises in terms of legroom and luggage space.

If equipped with a very small third row suitable only for kids, the Raize Space could be used as sort of an Ativa with a larger boot, with emergency jump seats popping up from the floor if you need them.

What do you think, is there a market for another Perodua product slotted between the Ativa and the Alza in Malaysia?

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Comments

  • Ground europe passenger on May 24, 2023 at 3:09 pm

    2-row Alza 5 seater ada kah?

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  • Ben Yap on May 24, 2023 at 3:37 pm

    the BRV’s last row is too cramp for an adult. advisable to get a proper 7 or 8 seater that can accomodate adults comfortably at the last seat.

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    • Dah Menang Semua on May 24, 2023 at 4:40 pm

      Next-Gen Alphard launching next month

      https://paultan.org/2023/05/22/2023-toyota-alphard-vellfire-leaked-before-june-debut/

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    • Outalingam Crap on May 25, 2023 at 9:00 am

      We already have a space winner of this segment, named Mitsubishi Xpander

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  • What’s the excitement? God knows what type of test rigging they have this time.

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  • kckfen on May 24, 2023 at 3:57 pm

    Do lar a Peti Sejuk Car C or B segment MPV.. with Sliding door….. Too many SUV 7 seater already.

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    • Ben Yap on May 24, 2023 at 4:43 pm

      C segment peti sejuk is Nissan serena now. toyota don’t have unless UMW brings in the peti sejuk voxy.

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  • Peppa on May 24, 2023 at 5:21 pm

    As long as it is wearing a Daihatsu or Perodua badge then it is fine. If it is Toyota then that is an issue ☺️

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  • New kenari?

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  • taweel on May 24, 2023 at 7:21 pm

    Could be next gen Toyota Calya or Daihatsu Sigra?

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    • Outalingam Crap on May 25, 2023 at 8:58 am

      Calya & Sigra are literally on the A segment side lah

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  • pls convert all Toyota brands in Malaysia to Perodua… easy n cheap… both selling same car actually

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  • Outalingam Crap on May 25, 2023 at 8:56 am

    The Raize Space needs to sport exactly 4.5m(slightly longer than Veloz & about the same length as Livina Cross) in absolute length so that its 3rd row space can be able to match up with the Livina Cross & hopefully the Stargazer and if Perodua is able to gain this car’s design rights, I’d well say “PLEASE TAKE MY MONEHHH!!”

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    • Paul Tan on May 25, 2023 at 1:18 pm

      the competitor for those cars is alza/veloz, this new car can be smaller

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  • make it 1.2EV or 1.5EV.
    7 seater Hybrid, SUV.

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