Honda will not be collaborating with national carmaker Proton on further models beyond the current Proton Perdana, which is based on the eight-generation Honda Accord.
This was revealed by Noriake Abe, Honda’s COO of Regional Operations for Asia & Pacific. Speaking to Carlist on the sidelines at the 2015 Tokyo Motor Show, Abe said the automaker’s enterprise with Proton would not expand beyond the work involving the Perdana, and that it was not in talks with Proton to develop any new models.
“We have stopped other product development with Proton. Our involvement with Proton stops at the Perdana, because we could not reach an agreement with Proton on several key issues,” Abe told the publication.
In October 2012, Proton announced that it had entered into a collaboration agreement with Honda to explore opportunities in the areas of technology enhancement, new product line up, platform and facilities’ sharing,
Following the signing of that agreement, Proton unveiled the new Perdana in December 2013. The car, based on the previous-gen Honda Accord, is only for the use of civil servants and the government – production volume was announced at just 3,000 units.
As previously reported, a civilian version is on the cards – the 2016 Proton Perdana is set to go on sale early next year. The car, which will still sit on eight-gen Accord underpinnings but feature a new exterior, was teased via a partial reveal at the Alami Proton event earlier in the month (and also rendered by Theophilus Chin as to what it could possibly look like).
It has been confirmed that the 2016 Perdana will be built at Proton’s Medium Volume Factory in Shah Alam (the current government-use version is assembled at Honda Malaysia’s plant in Melaka), and will retain Honda’s 154 hp/189 Nm R20A3 2.0 and 177 hp/222 Nm K24Z2 2.4 litre i-VTEC engines. Both engines will be paired with a five-speed automatic transmission.
The news of the halt in exploring future paths with Honda is not exactly a surprise; there has been very little development or news from that front in recent times, and it looks like the national carmaker has moved on in this regard.
In June this year, Proton and Suzuki signed an Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) and Licence Agreement that, amongst other things, gives Proton access to Suzuki’s models, platforms, powertrain and automotive technology, with the Japanese carmaker providing technical assistance for the products and scope selected.
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Proton with VW- FAILED
Proton with Honda- NO FUTURE
Proton with Suzuki- hmmm
See below and you will know why Honda don’t want to friend Proton.
Japanese workers :
“We must work hard. We must focus in our work. We take pride in our products and must deliver excellent quality. Only then, we can enjoy our remuneration for the hard work done. We must aim to be more hardworking than our other Japanese car plants”
Proton Malaysia workers:
“Rilak lah bang, buat apa nak keje ni. rilak lah, nanti boleh buat. Letih lah ni, mari meh tido sekejap kat bilik stor, boss takde ni. Eh tengok awek kilang cun tu, bess lah dapat kongkek dia. Syok. Jom lah, mari pegi kantin minum teh dan makan kuih lapis. Tak payah keje kuat ni, kerajaan nanti tolong. Buat apa keje kuat ni, jom tido”
Habis tu kau ingat honda dgn toyota buat kat jepun…benggong arr ko ni….sama jer buat kat malaysia….relaks la bro….puiiiii ko.
Just because proton made new perdana which is better looking and better in many ways and will sell cheaper than current accord??
Better handling,maybe.Better looking,u should check ur eyes bro
P la Honda… Proton no need the out dated technology like Honda. We Proton can make anything better then Honda Engine, cvt and handling !!!
You know why Honda want to cerai? they got fed up with the kickback system and crony system Everything also, got no tender process. given to cronies, who are usually UMNO brainless people with no experience in the automotive sector.
Japanese Honda got fed up with the crony system. Even to source products for the Perdana also must set up subsidiary company and 30% of the company must be given free to bumi.
Honda got so fed up with all this. Tak tahan. How I know? I work for Proton Sourcing. Honda did not like our crony and kickback system by the parts vendors.
These Japs are arrogant and selfish. They are worst than Mitsubishi. They sell the royalty to Proton but vendor need to establish their own drawing. What the fish! They dont want Proton to step ahead than them in Asean market..It’s better to stop with Honda and we see how it works with Suzuki..
Better buy 2nd hand Honda Accord 8th Generation at cheaper price and use the balance to touch up and pump free petrol
Yup u better buy the old Accord first which equipped with deadly Takata airbags. The sooner u die the better..
Honda is smart enough not to let Proton jeopardize its quality control and reputation. Bravo!
pls dont insult Malaysians,. esp if you have not worked in Proton before. my fren who worked there before commended on their staff.
and btw not all Japanese are like what you think,. they are a perverted lot!! plus, all they think about is golf! golf! golf!
I work in proton before 5 years. Culture there is all about affairs and main. Everybody is married but all having affairs with each other. You were saying?
Stupid comment . 5000 times recycled same comment.
Racist and stupid comment. Not every Malaysian worker at car assembly plant are like that. There are some hardworking ones who have made it in life driving ferraris and mercedes benz models here in malaysia. Many of them in KL of course. Haha
driving rari’s.. through crony system? Are these workers proud that they are making a piece of shit car that cannot compete globally, with power windows that STILL fail, even after so many guarantees?
Racist. I condemn Proton to the maximum, anyone who supports them are national enemies and deserve to be charged with treason. But I won’t be a racist.
Komunis pengkhianat suka hati bila baca berita ni. Mmang dasar pengkhianat, anjing2 sepet ni takkan berpuas hati selagi Bangsa Melayu yg menguasai Proton, cuba kalau proton ni dikuasai robert kuok, honda ni msti kaw2 kena maki, siap cita balik zaman nenek moyang diorg kena smbelih dgn jepun dlu
Betul ke? Siapa yang minat kat proton? Semua partner lari hihihihi
I can’t believe such comments are allowed here. Absolutely unacceptable. For argument said if it happens the other around I think Proton would be world famous for the right reasons! There is no justification for corruption no matter how u put it mate!
Diamlah Melayu babi! Bangasa tak berguna!
Honda you had just made a wise choice!!
OMG…good move….Honda sales can beat proton soon. Dont feed them, let them die faster…hahahah
maybe it is also because Japanese are never too sincere in sharing technology anyway,.. they always offer some ,. but nothing more than that- so that’s why the partnership stops
Agreed!
Tak-kan feed them A-to-Z…
They provide you the concept or guide…then you develop from there lah…
ONLY your parents will hold your hand to teach you how to write A-Z… even school teacher won’t do that.
Well, everyone born with a brain… just need to use them, instead of just open our mouth and wait for others to feed.
Honda is a profitable company. If Proton wants free ride all the time from Honda of course must give something in return to Honda.
Unless Proton develop its own technology, for sure no argument with other car makers.
If i have a dollar for every collaboration proton enters….
Those contract free signings are nothing and proton being the small party in every single case, they have to agree to so many limitations imposed by the other big guy, and proton being stubborn or jus lack of direction, it only gonna hurt n be just a fruitless money wasting cermony…
Time to get a foreigner to take the helm at proton, someone who know how to work WITHOUT EGO AND Dilution… Do sting like MAS… how they trim the company, review all contracts n just be a sustainable company…. There is a limit to how much i can sympathize with p1…im a fan, bt godness me p1,u r testing the sh*t of my patience with u..
Nothing to surprise.
If Honda say they enjoy working with Proton then it is a surprise.
Are we surprise with your language? No. Ini memang standard Proton.
haha so this is the standard of language and mentality from our kids, result of our kebangsaan public school system.. congrats
sendiri cakap baik baik dulu sebelum tegur orang
Red shirt spotted..
The “several key issues” mentioned probably sound like this during the meeting:
Proton: Hai Honda san, aku mahu create a new “subsidiary” under our joint venture. I am planning to have Mat A, Mat B and Mat C as the CEO, COO and CBO (chief besar officer) of this new subsidiary. Oh ya, finally most important, you must give me 30 percent equity in your company.
Honda: But….why need this “subsidiary”? It’s nothing but an empty shell company that does absolutely nothing! Doesn’t that a huge waste of resources? And… those Mat A, Mat B and Mat C whom you recommended has ZERO AUTOMOTIVE CREDENTIALS or EXPERIENCE, why them?
Proton: Aiya, mereka tu… kawan baik, bini and crony saya mah! They very experience nasi lemak seller you know! Must kasi chance lah sikit, if not how they are going to make money? So 30 percent equity, deal?
Honda: I finally understand why Mitsubishi sold all their shares and leave all you barbarians for good. Take my Accord and leave, you guys are nothing but a bunch of lazy, blood sucking leeches, you have no place in international business! You asked for 30%? You guys don’t even worth 1% ! Now Get Lost!
HaHaHa Good 1
What about the “Accordana”? Is it a legal copy from Honda?
Pls read the article. Try to understand. Otherwise, use Google translate.
better buy Proton Accord.
Padan muka Proton! Ah beng …say all u want but Honda just kicked Proton’s ass. Go Go Honda!
Honda is for cheap poor people…. look at engine, cvt , safety and handling Proton are way ahead of Honda !!! Go read local news p la balik kampung !!
20 tahun maseh ada power window problems. Haiz. Iriz sudah kena.
PROTON = Potential Risk Of Tingkap Otomatic Non-functioning.
Proton is just a small boy trying to enter the big boys’ club but doesn’t understand why no one wants to give in to its demands. Time to give up the ghost proton.
Honda will make a big mistake allowing P1 to destoy the Accord brand…same wit Mutsubisi Lancer…nw Suzuki next victim
HAHAHAHAHAHHA, now the so call Accordana will be doom, since maintenance price will sure sky rocket without such support..
Obviously the problem will be…Cronies Part Supplier from Day1. Japanese learn from Mitsubishi already. (They really thought Malaysia small market they give a damn to sacrifice their brand quality and technology)
‘“We in Proton of course look forward to acquiring the skills and technology of Suzuki Motor and we will be able to benefit from this understanding and cooperation with Suzuki Motor,” said Mahathir.
“Proton is very keen to work with acquired tech from other manufacturers. This is one of our attempts to enhance the performance of Proton,” the former PM added.’
This is what Dr M apparently don’t understand: Big car companies won’t give Proton ‘the skills and technology’ to build own cars. They would be stupid, wouldn’t they?
i felt curious , the 2016 proton perdana doesnt seem like as same as the honda accord , the previous edition of proton perdana for government-use is the car which has the same design as honda accord 100% , but the new edition of proton perdana not even copy people’s design ………..
this means that Proton actually designs the exterior la,. isnt that sthg good?
Damn. Maruah tercalar. Honda, how dare you? you are not afraid of 200 people rallying in front of your head office?
200 of what?.. pls bring them & show us in Japan if u want or dare!
Hait ! Kawamura san. These jaguh kampung can only shout all they want & claim & threaten all they want in kampung only.
Don’t worry, they are useless against world players
What are you ‘merepek’ bro? Mabuk? Please comment something intellectual. Grow up please
Till now I wonder what do Honda get from the Accordana deal beside the “money” from re-badge…
Good money to recycle old platform. Anyway it is 8th gen Accord.
Honda already using 9th gen Accord. New platform. Smart move by Honda. Still can make money out of previous generation platform
well~more money to buy for rebadge………….
XD
Proton better works with Suzuki making motrocycle la, why wasting time building car again.
The moment when Honda realised Proton can make a better Accord than they did, even with a hand-me-down 2 generations old chassis
Rover did that to them twenty years ago but they owned part of Rover.
Actually 30 years ago. Rover 200 series began life as Honda Ballade. Rover 400 series is also Honda Concerto while Rover 600 series was Honda Accord Ascot JDM not sold to outside market.
Anyway, Rover lost in its struggle and went bankrupt. What left as remains were bought by Chinese company which rebrand the car as Roewe, bcoz the Rover trademark belongs to British if not mistaken.
I want what john is smoking
its quite obvious isnt it? proton already in bed with suzuki.
N. Abe. Is that his real name or is Honda angry at how Proton reacted to what McLaren told Lotus who told Proton.
This is bcoz Probably Proton already got partner in crime with Suzuki.
HONDA is a big player and i guess Suzuki already knew this with their short partnership with scammer WV.
I guess no way for big and established company like Honda or WV to give extra of their know how tech to other company and eventually will gain more benefit compare to them.
No matter what Proton really need a good and smart partnership to keep relevent
Time and time again Proton goes to bed with a foreign car maker and produces off spring aka bastards.
Why can’t the relationship work?
Cos Proton has nothing to offer.
Zero / zilch!!!.
Engine want free
Chassis want free.
And at the same time courting Suzuki.
What lah Proton ?
We don’t want bastards running around !!
Japanese will never share their tech without take advantages to malaysian….n u love their car but they just want ur money….malaysian is like native (org asli) to them..if honda dont want is okey…they also dont want honda take advantages from proton expertise..eg RnH…nowadays proton have improve thier QC n eliminate kronies..
Ride and handling? Hahahahaha
Honda has the ability to produce a lot of cars on its own. Jazz, city, civic, concerto, integra, accord family of ascot, vigor, rafaga, inspire and legend. Can make CRX and NSX. And type R series. And MPVs like airwave, stream and odyssey.
Knowledge in making high performance engines… 4 in line and v6… VTEC and variations.
So u were saying Honda doesn’t know how to make cars with ride and handling?
U r so funny.
Only stupid jaguh kampung like Bravo Proton will think Proton is superior to Honda. Come on lah, Honda make Tyre R and NSX, has Proton made any car in the same class?
Ride and handling? Honda need to learn from Proton for ride and handling? Has Proton made a FWD car that can lap Nurburgring under 8.00? Honda wanna steal Proton so call “ride and handling”? Don’t make me laugh!
Hahaha how to collaborate when proton can make new cars every 7 years while honda wants to make new cars every 5 years? From here we know that any collaboration with proton does not make sense and not profiting at all
hahaha
Haha… knew it! No way Honda will unveils it VTEC secret to any car automakers. VTEC is Honda’s life & soul, Honda is nothing without it! As for i-VTEC, it just another simplify version of VVTi, just like it’s coming VTC for US market.
There goes my dream of a Campro powered Honda Civic wit bunga (Lotus) handling
Please learn from China, how they are doing business. In short time, they can either collaborate with other global companies or even buy other foreign companies such as Volvo by Geely.
Most of the time, they are very successful. If got problems, they solve it soon or else walk away.
Good good
Japanese very serious and discipline with their work, even the garbage collector.
Seriously, Proton is F’d up. There is no bright future for Proton unless they stop practicing cronism. Then only the quality will improve. Everything looks cheap inside a Proton car. A better spent money is wasted by filling the cronies’ pocket.
Since when Proton use their brain to create own models? No brain at all. Even crest small nuts also cannot.
How about iriz preve suprima persona saga
I think this is not a big issue, Honda is doing the right thing also. There must be a reason why Honda cut off the tie. But whatever reason it is, i still believe this is good for Proton. Proton will work hard to build their own products, it is time to change the old habits….
That new Proton Perdana front bumper looks like the latest AMG kits and the rear end looks like Jaguar XF.
Honda do not want to proceed with plot on. DrM:0; Ajibkor:1. Get it??
Companies like Honda will make decisions regarding partnerships based on potential economic viability of the venture and to them it is a no go for now. It is the small minded, spiteful and prejudiced people who will start to politicize the business decision made. These people rejoice and celebrate such news and take every opportunity to indulge in their favorite pastime that is to slur other people.
Sayonara Proton !!! tapi jangan cepat putus asa Proton- walaupun banyak orang yang caci-hina engko masih ramai orang yang berdiri untuk saport engko. Orang bole bagi komen-komen hina, tapi aku rasa org2 tu buat kreta pun dia tak tahu.