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Proton Persona SE now on sale for RM59,800

Proton Persona SE
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Proton launched a special edition of the Proton Persona SE today, priced at RM59,800. The Persona SE is only available in two colours - Blue Haze and Brilliant Red. Like all new units of the Persona, the new Proton Persona SE is powered by the Campro IAFM engine which offers a smoother torque curve compared to the old Campro engine. It is only available with an automatic transmission.

The following are the differences in equipment for the special edition model:

  • Leather-wrapped seats, steering wheel, gear knob and trim
  • Meter panel from the GEN2 CPS
  • Different alloy wheel design (15 inch)
  • Cruise Control
  • Smoked headlamps
  • Silver matte door handles and front grille
  • A bodykit consisting of front, side and rear skirts and a subtle spoiler
  • A Proton-rebadged windscreen-mounted GPS navigation device

The GPS device loads its maps from an SD card, so it should be easy to replace the maps whenever there are updates. I noticed there were some points of interests loaded onto the map such as local restaurants so if you’re in an area you do not know and want to grab a quick bite the GPS should be quite useful in that sense.

Look after the jump for more photos of the Persona SE.

Proton Persona SE
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Proton Persona SE
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132 Comments »

  1. MisterBenjo said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:24 pm

    huhuhu whole day waiting for the review.

  2. crasher7 said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:24 pm

    First to comment…
    Cruise Control?! Sweet!!!

  3. TheophilusChin said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:25 pm

    SE = Silly Enhancement?

  4. hyundai said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:25 pm

    5k for so much more thing. Quite reasonable and valuable.

  5. volks2 said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:25 pm

    lots of new features wor

  6. ar said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:28 pm

    SE… should be standard edition from the start

  7. MisterBenjo said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:29 pm

    Paul, where they put the GPS?

    Paul Tan says: its windscreen mounted. not integrated. you can put it anywhere you want. you can take it out, or put it in another of your cars if you want.

  8. Hikaru said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:30 pm

    Good, got rid of the horrible steering wheel for some leather bound ones.

    Cruise control? Wonder how intelligent it is. E.g. the ones on Camry stays at the set speed no matter if u are climbing up hill or down hill, it will auto control the throttle to maintain the set speed. Wira’s? Only the throttle is open at a certain level, go faster on down hill, slower on up hill.

    Stand alone GPS? Not smart, next time ppl will target Persona SE to smash their windows to get the GPS. I guess its near to impossible for them to integrate it in to the dash. Next time perhaps?

    Anyway, good effort to mkt this 4 yr old product, just wish its given a bigger facelift with more mechanical changes, rather than fulfilling promises that was made much earlier. Proton’s way i guess

  9. ezralimm said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:31 pm

    That’s a pretty decent level of kit for only RM60k..

  10. awak said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:32 pm

    alloys are from waja

  11. mitlanevo said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:41 pm

    nothing special, except the GPS…..

    and the wheels are ugly and too small size…

  12. awak said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:49 pm

    for SE its ok,

    unless it a GT then the car deserve performance pack

  13. cyborgx said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:49 pm

    I’d bite the bullet and topup to buy a city.

  14. WXX8XX said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:55 pm

    Dammnnn.. a GPS in a Proton?? Interesting… Unfortunately it’s not integrated.. but it’s an improvement from Proton at least.. Agree with Mitlanevo.. should change the wheel to bigger rims.. It look cacat with rims that small.. Other than that it’s ok and acceptable.. Hope to have a review on the driving experience soon…

  15. MisterBenjo said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:57 pm

    1.6 how can put bigger rim…underpowered la.

  16. F33lG00D said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:58 pm

    Haha another plate of Fine Duluxe Rojak!
    Good job Proton!

  17. zaff1984 said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:58 pm

    good value for RM59,800. Proton should to mix n match too much from other model, it make the special edition less special. not the true competitor for city bcoz of price gap.

  18. F33lG00D said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:59 pm

    Y Dont upgrade the wheels?? aiyooo thambi!!

  19. eliew said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 10:05 pm

    rims look familiar!…it’s from waja recycle bin!!

  20. goguncas71 said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 10:05 pm

    The Persona is underrated, a few months ago TopGear Malaysia did a comparo with the Honda City and Spectra 5 and the Persona won.

  21. awak said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 10:08 pm

    malaysian car or any car sold in malaysia obsessed with door visor,
    its funtional yes, during rainy day at least,

    but those visor actually spoil the sleek look of the car, honestly.

  22. chery said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 10:09 pm

    rims from old Waja? chew!

  23. austin_cipan said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 10:15 pm

    bigger wheels = need to design new bearing set = $$$
    bigger wheels = more load on engine = reliability issue = $$$
    bigger wheels = lower profiled tyre = $$$
    hence, bigger wheels = costly = against proton rules = NO WAY!!!

  24. austin_cipan said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 10:18 pm

    1 more
    bigger wheels = more load on engine = increased fuel consumption…
    anybody want to add more? please feel free to add…

  25. Dogster said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 10:40 pm

    Why oh why oh whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy , must the stupid buttons on the steering wheel be so smallllll. goshhhhhhh. really put all those new gadget really useless. if practicality isnt there. i wont mind if proton puts those big round buttons from the myvi audio system onto the steering wheel..sigh…

  26. johnson wong said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 10:41 pm

    skirting like shit…..

  27. orangetribal said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 10:42 pm

    i was expecting more from Proton when i first saw the ad from a newspaper,nevertheless good job for adding many “premium” features not seen in proton cars before.

    and and the waja rims looks cool on the persona and most probably the best looking rims coming out from proton,really.

  28. Dogster said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 10:42 pm

    if not this would be a near perfect car d, in terms of user friendliness

  29. dodgeviper88 said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 10:54 pm

    I’m interested to know what brand is that GPS is? Hopefullt it’s a garmin model in which i can take the malaysian maps and copy it to put into other garmin ones. As for the car itself…..sigh….Proton, the name speaks for itself. And since when Malaysia had their version of TopGear?

    Paul Tan says: it’s not a garmin, i asked the sales personnel and they mentioned some obscure name that i could not catch.

  30. ckk125 said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 10:57 pm

    nice car, with the enhancements…but the price range is too close to waja…5k difference only..with cps engine, hid, projector lamps and 6 speakers..

  31. bobdbilder said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 10:57 pm

    If you put big switches on the steering, you’ll change channels while taking a turn. Not very safe as it distracts you. Like my Waja. Changed HU to Pioneer. Bye-bye stock steering hello momo replica.

    But I have to say this; looks like this SE is Proton Edar work. And its disappointing. They need not do this in the first place coz its a new model. Its like they had to do something for Merdeka. It just look like an afterthought. We used to have the MME edition out around this time. That didn’t do to well cos the bodykit stank. It still does. Quite obviously its a glued on skirting ainit?

    Have to agree with Awak. I tore off mine after petrol went north to 2.7. Now I’ve got a mess around my windows cos the double sided tape couldn’t be totally removed.

  32. bobdbilder said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 11:01 pm

    dodgeviper88

    Top Gear Malaysia is in its 18 month.

    Have to say this…

    DUH

    Just had to..

  33. IsaacVky said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 11:04 pm

    Hikaru said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 9:30 pm

    Simply because old wira has a cable throttle while Camry use an electronic throttle which can provide feedback with a closed loop control system. No problem with this Persona SE, it’ll adapt to road conditions.

  34. awak said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 11:06 pm

    i think bigger wheel is ok, proton 16 inch new design may be. yes a bit sacrifice.
    they should make this ready, at least ready for the satria neo, and other model as well,

    turbine 16 inch at neo is only suits neo look, fine with it.
    but really look akward to be put on other model, like persona gen2 or waja,

    maybe its a good idea to have the kind of case like AMG or CARLSSON wheel design for mercedes which suits at any mercedes model just for example.

    not too bling, not too fatty outward buggy like, not too ambitious 3 piece look alike,

    ,,anything suits it. street performance wise, matches proton body.

  35. bigboytoys said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 11:07 pm

    SE ? proton don’t even know what the meaning of SE..duhh…kill proton’s designer..

  36. whiteeye said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 11:10 pm

    Nth special lol just add a bit of cosmetic, want to say special edition, either u can change the engine cc or more powerful performance instead of adding something useless, just like a turtle with empty shell, hahaha, this really is PROTON tradition except for Proton Putra, and Satria GTI and Neo, other probably just like previous Proton Wira SE remind me that the car make adjustment but too little better don’t make it SE, i saw at the internet many people had modified their own PERSONA, and is more better than this just don’t have leather only ma. Guys how decent you saw international car company have special edition, if got also there make you very impress instead just put some cosmetic, SUCKS.

  37. awak said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 11:13 pm

    bobthebuilder
    remove the sticky rubbery tape bit by bit, with finger ,roll technique,
    yes painstaking, takes couple of days

  38. austin_cipan said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 11:15 pm

    DIY cruise control…

    1. Find a used, not so filthy clay or cement brick block
    2. Put it on your lap when u’re driving
    3. When u arrive at a clear and open road like the highway, simply replace your foot with the brick which you’d acquired just now.
    4. Adjust the brick angle accordingly
    5. There u have it… Cruise control that costs as much as a brick… Only just it is a brick after all

    Thank you…

  39. izaman said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 11:23 pm

    good job but…

    1. i really hate the steering design. feel like want to close my eyes everytime i drive my persona. hahaha

    2. the gps unit is actually rebadged and modified from the gps unit from the hi-line. the interface look the same. so i assume the supplier is also the same.

    3. IMHO, the chrome door handle is more appropriate than matte one

    but, good job anyway.

  40. dawja5215 said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 11:27 pm

    I admit it still don’t impress all of us.But there will be a bunch of Proton fans waiting outside the showroom to buy one of these.Proton will make profit after all, and the upgrades are quite impressive.Good job Proton

  41. Roti Naan said,

    August 26, 2008 @ 11:58 pm

    The rear spoiler (very cutey size…) doesn’t look matching and doesn’t flow with the rear of the car. Out of place. Almost insignificant.

    Proton should have designed the rear spoiler to be “wrapped” more around the rear section of the car.

    or is the manufacturer trying to save their plastic supply?

  42. ignas said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 12:06 am

    finally job well done all these years. if only they have done it back then, keeping up with the ’standard’ of the market has to offer. anyhow i do agree with the cheapo buttons on the steering wheel and the girly skirting. do hope they continue to improve. good job once again.

  43. BanyakMasukWorkshop said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 12:22 am

    that leather sure looks like the expensive stuff…

  44. WXX8XX said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 12:22 am

    Mmmm.. I wonder why Proton always tampal additional ‘bodykits’ to already made and fitted bumper. Same case with Savvy. It look like a big ‘balak’ stuck to the car. Why not design new bumper like Satria Gti’s one? Now that’s what we can call ‘S.E’… Aihh.. again.. cost efficiency issue i think…

  45. mytouch said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 12:40 am

    POTONG back to its previous boring routine again…just do some “make up” to the car & do a grand launching to show how good they are…keep on playing like this,& you will repeat the dark history of POTONG again…Please show some sincerity on developing the National car…

  46. kahing said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 12:47 am

    If it’s an SE, they shoulda redesigned the steering altogether to compliment the SE-ness of the whole damn thing. But with the skirting and all, it does look more solid than before, 1 point for this. Cruise control ? Another point I guess. But why the same gear type ? Shoulda upgraded it to a gate type shift ma. Then the look of an SE watever will be almost complete.

  47. Wisdom said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 12:58 am

    Go ahead. Condemn summore…
    No not enough that one. Ya ya… add more.
    No lah how can be satisfied…
    Ha ha…
    Ya that too…

  48. TheGunner said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 1:32 am

    It’s a fine marketing move, but I think it’s disappointing that it didn’t come with the option of manual transmission.

  49. topgunthang said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 1:40 am

    wow, this is the best car in the world. car of the year 1995.

    honest.

  50. n8cky said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 1:56 am

    How much is a Vios J?
    Ehst if i focus on price~?
    lol

  51. MerdekaFever said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 2:00 am

    Hi to all that called themselve `highly educated`…
    dont u know bigger size of rim caused high FC ?
    ayya…want to jimat,but dont know how to think….
    n just leave ur `satisfied` comment if u can`t afford to get one!!

  52. aMaDeO said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 2:19 am

    woo.. saw the car today… ok lah.. nice leather seats..

  53. Jie said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 5:34 am

    I always prefer the removable gps unit. The in-built satnav in merc for example, is always crappier than the standard tomtom and garmin. Not sure abt BMW.

    At the end of the day, nothing beats driver’s own experience, esp if they are as good as me…he he.. Even in the UK, the satnav sometimes fail to choose the right road that avoids traffic, the bus lanes etc.

    On the SE proton, at least I can say I like the color.

    Need to do something abt the steering wheel - buttons need not jut out cos they look ugly, maybe need to be level, quite hard to explain. Unlike some other forummers, the bigger, neater buttons in some other cars never posed any problem for me when turning the steering wheel.

  54. puni_puni said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 6:09 am

    For this facelift model…its comparable with the price…but will its stand for 5 to 10 years…a proton always a proton…please proton R&D more testing to the vehicle for out market consideration. Support Proton. A Malaysia Pride.

  55. azrai said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 7:22 am

    It looks nicer. If only they can fit it with the Gen-2 CPS bumper. The Waja rim make a comeback here. Nice cost cutting strategy. the whole concept is taken from the Envy concept, eg. the silver coloured door handle and chrome lining at the front and rear. I beg the 60k price tag is attractive. Those GPS should be integrated in the fascia though. throughly the proton answer to ‘S’ Vios. Dear proton, lease replace the steering wheel with the Perdana V6 one. it look like a ‘kereta kayuh’ (just like what Afdlin Shauky’s son car in the Petronas merdeka ad). “Kalau pokok cempedak abah berdaun emas, jangankan kereta Persona SE, kereta kebal pun abah boleh belikan.” :-)

  56. atom said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 7:36 am

    i think an SE should ‘be’ an SE,regardless of make or model. This model ain’t cut out 2be an SE.

  57. abtm said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 7:52 am

    might be tempting, but it’s a proton, ppl are going to look down on it

  58. car_craze said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 8:05 am

    Nod bad! Looks sporty and elegant. And it’s got 5 seat belts!

    Bigger wheels might look nice but drinks more fuel, slower ‘pick up/acceleration and shortens the lifespan of the bearings.

    Hope they would put a CPS on the Persona soon!

  59. 4G63T DSM said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 8:33 am

    I’m wondering if the Gen2 CPS HL might have been an even better deal given its only slightly more expensive. After all, it has a better engine.

  60. lone_rider said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 8:47 am

    hahaha..so funny when so many malaysian
    soooo care about steering wheel looks rather than pracicallity…

    we are so high taste ehh..
    maybe if Honda origin from malaysia they will bungkus already..

  61. gundaian said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 8:54 am

    I go to the show room yesterday. The car is very good in all aspect. The seat, the body, the accessory are very good. I almost want to book one.. until I see the steering. damn.. cheap plastic.

  62. 3S said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 8:54 am

    Proton made an improvement here…..
    but seem like have so many version for Proton car……..
    1st version Persona second hand value will be drop…Proton should make it right at the 1st place…….!
    GPS..Sweet…but i don’t see there are any slot in Persona interior for this GPS device…!

  63. BanyakMasukWorkshop said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 9:12 am

    “but seem like have so many version for Proton car……..
    1st version Persona second hand value will be drop…Proton should make it right at the 1st place…….!”
    ———————————————–

    dont think this will affect 2nd hand pricing of the persona.. why should it.. its more expensive than any of the 3 currently available variants from proton, and those other 3 variants are still for sale. i suspect this SE is just for a small amount of people, who are willing to pay a little more for something slightly different. its basically giving consumers more choices. if you’re in the market for a persona, you buy the one you want, so whats wrong with that?

    and for those guys who complain about proton doing an SE, the fact is, all car manufacturers do it.. so why the different treatment again for proton? you should see how many variants of the 3 series you can buy in europe, more than 10 different variants.. even i think thats crazy……

  64. gundaian said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 9:18 am

    Yeah.. for the GPS sure it will be cool if they make a slot over the radio place. Also hope in the future they will consider get a mini TV for an option.

    lone_rider, the steering become an issue because other part of the car are very good.

  65. tikus said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 9:20 am

    Where is Campro CPS lar??? SE this, SE that, engine no SE how?

  66. farghmee said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 9:20 am

    will there be a release of persona cps, gated shift & new bodykit?
    no MMC ver.? ;)

    say, put the gps in the clock place, but make it removable.

    designwise, gen2/persona is good at looks; it can be even better if the designers apply practical & ergonomic features :)

    oh btw,
    the auto cruise in gen2 1.6 Auto HL does the job.
    during ascending the speed will reduce a bit before gaining to its set speed,
    during decendingt he speed will increase a bit before reducing to its set speed. may be due to the slow response of the speed signal.

  67. raverus said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 9:33 am

    My only reaction is LAUGH

  68. goguncas71 said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 9:38 am

    Aiyaa…I can’t believe so many people complain about the small buttons. Hee..he… the beloved/premium Vios doesn’t even have steering control buttons…

    Personally they shouldn’t have called this the SE, maybe it should be Persona Premium.

  69. 3S said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 9:40 am

    i owned a proton wira with auto cruise ( 1999 Version ) last time. The auto cruise malfunction after 2 years i bought the car.
    Hope the new version of auto cruise will be more reliable…!

  70. mukhri88 said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 9:42 am

    I guess they forgot about safety(again). How much more would it cost to install 7 airbags, EBD ESP ABS traction control dual clutch and a Sony six speaker system? RM25k more? What if GM or VW help them source the parts…

    Maybe next time, in the Super Grand Deluxe Premium GTR Limited Series model in 2018. Can the bashers stop the bashing by then?

  71. farghmee said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 9:50 am

    i agree about that airbags, abs, ebd..but esp tcs? not really.
    if we are talking about veyron with massive hp (veyron is one example of supercars), than esp tcs will be matters the most..

  72. mukhri88 said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 9:57 am

    yeah I guess I was overboard there.. but the outsourcing issue stands.

  73. brick&leaf said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 10:19 am

    I’m driving a Gen2 for almost 3 years now. At every sharp turning the car will jerk with a ‘thub’ sound. Sent to Proton and was informed that this is a common problem for Gen2 and even the new Persona. It is a design problem and as of now there is nothing can be done to fix it. According to them, this problem will not endanger the safety of the passengers – well, I don’t buy the last statement.
    All d best to Proton and all d best to all Persona owners!

  74. ndmervin said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 10:24 am

    Oopsie, how did I end up in one of your shots? :D Anyway, the car looks great and I am jealous of those who will be getting it - coz mine is a Base-line… :P

  75. Roti Naan said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 10:49 am

    brick&leaf said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 10:19 am

    I’m driving a Gen2 for almost 3 years now. At every sharp turning the car will jerk with a ‘thub’ sound. Sent to Proton and was informed that this is a common problem for Gen2 and even the new Persona. It is a design problem and as of now there is nothing can be done to fix it. According to them, this problem will not endanger the safety of the passengers – well, I don’t buy the last statement.
    All d best to Proton and all d best to all Persona owners!
    ——————————————————————-

    The “thub” sound comes standard with GEN2 cars, huh?

  76. voon99 said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 11:54 am

    what an ugly piece of shit…
    added kits, leather seats etc etc, so this is the so-called Standard Edition/Special Enhancement/Special Edition….. SE thingies??

    well ok there is a GPS, wow GPS man!! what?? GPS data read from SD card?? How “smart”!!

    So these are the “improvements” Malaysia Proton can make huh~ I see…

  77. ReactiX said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 12:35 pm

    Nice work since the car looks nice, but calling this SE is quite unacceptable. Name it to Special Trim (Persona ST) is better lol :D

  78. goguncas71 said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 12:42 pm

    Thud sound? I don’t hear such a sound from my wife’s and brother’s Gen-2s (I drive his a lot since he often borrows my car). I suggest you go to a proper service center and don’t let up until the problem is fixed.

    I see some bashers have started coming in and calling the Persona names…
    Let’s see,

    a) good reviews from local mags (autocar,Topgear etc)

    b) Anonymous bashers calling it names..

    Which ones should i listen to? ;)

  79. md_helmi84 said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 1:02 pm

    If its a mounted GPS, we can get it at pc shop nowdays…..owh proton just painted its name on it…..ok
    isn’t it the door handle suppose to be the same color as body??
    Leather seat with 6 square shape? just like a turtle shell to me

    what so special about this model??

  80. Roti Naan said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 1:41 pm

    I suppose that….

    most proton articles written is a good recipe for bashing, as always..

  81. tHe CuLpRit said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 2:00 pm

    The high-line is priced at rm4k cheaper rite? If yes i’d say the equipment given are alright.

    But I would much rather they gave the cruise control + leather trimmings (minus seats) as standard with the high-line, instead of forcing people to go for the SE to get one.

  82. The Unicons said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 2:51 pm

    Overall the car looks OK for me and I do like the Blue Haze colour over the Brilliant Red.

    However, why the map on the GPS kinda look cheap. Cheap program by ?? company? Does the GPS includes the whole Malaysia’s map (west & east Malaysia), street names, name of places…. including those historical buildings and restaurants etc?

  83. gtmaniac said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 2:53 pm

    Good effort, but I really think the Waja alloys ruins the otherwise smart exterior enhancement. Why just don’t donate this rims to the baseline persona? May be they will change it to other design once the old stock finish - just like the previous Wira SE..

  84. altimi said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 3:20 pm

    The steering wheel doesn’t looks good but surprisingly good to hold…….almost M-Sport good but not as thick

  85. kerelbort said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 3:41 pm

    voon99 said,
    well ok there is a GPS, wow GPS man!! what?? GPS data read from SD card?? How “smart”!!
    ___________________________________

    LOL… how do other GPS read map? U used GPS before man? funny basher.. ROTF

  86. chap_de_x said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 3:59 pm

    hye…log time not write any comment

    first of all…annoy with the narrow mentality of the basher …wut ever p1 do is wrong…see if they still say anything if this persona come with T or H badge…common..grow up

    ok back to the topic…this SE is nice looking sedan for me…topup another 5k you got lot of goodies…it ok to call it SE since its not a facelift yet..cause only 1 years old ma…nice leather trim and skirting.i dun understand people bringing up no engine upgrade to this persona…and cannot call it SE…myvi SE also dun have any engine upgrade…IAFM is enough to support the campro since its for fuel economy and family car…cps for sporty driving and both have its own market target…for me it just lack of colour choices…if its come with white or orange its gona look cool.

  87. trustgtr said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 4:43 pm

    that GPS tends to be a major attraction for thieves..anyone knows whether it could be detached for safe keeping??

  88. trustgtr said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 4:46 pm

    proton should make all their models using the cps engine..

  89. waimak said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 4:57 pm

    I dont have any problem with the exterior of this P-SE, perhaps the rear spoiler that makes it looks rather high - it shouldnt be there for me. Interior is neat.

    Like my previous comments on P1, it needs refinement and durability, as well as functionality in the long run.

    Good luck!

  90. runpandarun said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 6:20 pm

    HONESTLY! actually..first of all….they should change the rims..
    second..WHY THE HELL ARE THE BODYKITS SO UGLY! third..15 INCH WHEELS..OMG..THEY COULDVE DONE BETTER THEN THAT RIGHT?

    im a huge fan of proton..i really am..but why cant they just try a bit harder..

  91. mystvearn said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 6:29 pm

    Nice, rims a bit small. Can go bigger, or maybe that will increase the cost? The GPS looks ok, but I like built in screen rather than mounted. The exterior cues looks like taken a lot from civic. The minor enhancements.

  92. Proton Sagwa said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 6:45 pm

    Not much to get excited about positively or negatively, I think. Must be that they’re calling it an SE that’s got people unhappy as it’s more of what other manufacturers might offer as an equipment package. Do agree that 15″ on an SE is pretty underwhelming, 16 wouldve been better. Those people that leap to Proton’s defense talking about FC etc…c’mon. It’s really about using existing stock to save money. Nobody buys the SE because of fuel economy. No shame in saying it was a cost based decision, but making up all these excuses for Proton is really grasping at straws.

    No doubt, some of the Proton detractors do go overboard, but some of the “defenders” definitely do too. I don’t really mind this Persona SE too much, but really, attempting to compare the “versions” of the Persona to the huge range of body styles and petrol and diesel engines the 3 series offers is laughable. And whoever said 10 versions of the 3 series for sale is too much is obviously ignorant of its history and/or lacking a sense of individuality.

  93. normaluser said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 7:52 pm

    The wheels on the pics look puny with wide gap along the wheel arches. Perhaps this is because the Persona SE is using thinner 55-profile tyres, while the non-SE Persona is using thicker 60-profile tyres.

    The body looks like floating far above the tyres. Too much gap. It destroys the original Persona good looks, despite the bodykits.
    Why oh Why Proton…

  94. WXX8XX said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 8:05 pm

    MerdekaFever said,
    August 27, 2008 @ 2:00 am

    Hi to all that called themselve `highly educated`…
    dont u know bigger size of rim caused high FC ?
    ayya…want to jimat,but dont know how to think….
    n just leave ur `satisfied` comment if u can`t afford to get one!!

    —————————————————————-

    Aihh.. these kind of people. It’s just opinions.. for the car look better.. why bash people like they are the one who decide what rims to use. Yess… everybody know that sooo higheducated-complicated-and-veryinteresting info of yours. I’m not that high educated but let me tell you something that i learn somewhere in the jungle.When you use bigger rims, you can choose thinner tyre so that the diameter of the rims+tyre is more or less equal to old tyre = more or less fuel consumption/very slight-alitlletinybit of increase of fc. Most of the time, the synchronization of the tyre diameter(too big!!) and the speedometer that make the fuel cost more without you even realize as the speedometer show you different speed than the speed that you are actually travelling. This also depends on the weights of the rims. Also depends on what type of ‘metal’ you use. There are 15” rims that are heavier that 16” rims. So actually you can choose bigger rims(but not too much laa..) Aihh.. i’m sooo not educated that’s why don’t know how to explain… Sorry.. learn this in the jungle with the monkeys.. Please go to google type “tyre calculator”… easier to understand what i mean.

  95. awak said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 9:51 pm

    at the very first the release of a waja, it original 15 inch wheel with center hub cab is perfectly suit it,
    and the other one is for waja is the 6 spoke design, which we only is the internet picture but not on the road ,looks matches the waja,
    i
    other than the above, it doesnt suit the waja ,including the one that being put on the persona se now, i ve seen someone use this wheel on gen 2 , look actually ok, which must be ok on persona too, ofcourse the gen2 cps alloy is the best suit for gen2 or also for persona.
    but never, never persona or gen2 put the satria neo’s wheel, it mess it all,

    waja looks is very sensitive to its wheel design, wrong wheel makes wrong combination,
    new waja cps, looks like waja cps having a cheapo wheel, also the waja campro, shoes doesnt suit top and bottom,

    ,wheel design is very important for a whole combination when the car rolls out from the factory,

    for this SE ths wheel, which actually not well suited on waja, works ok on this SE. although i like to say the gen2 cps wheel is the best choise for this persona SE,

  96. hazremi said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 10:03 pm

    RM60k for all of this ?Including a GPS in a car?I gotta say this is a deal.You don’t get this in Vios or City

  97. kerelbort said,

    August 27, 2008 @ 10:11 pm

    malaysian don need GPS or leather seat.. they need the T or H badge..

    for me T and H badge not good enuf. I want a Shield Badge or Horse badge.

    rim small? go buy and change to bigger rim la.. hehehehe.. why so fussy?

  98. ignas said,

    August 28, 2008 @ 12:00 am

    for car enthusiasts, perhaps its better to buy the cheap basic model and mod everything according to own’s preferences and styles. heres my ‘at least’ lists: tail light, steering wheel, rims, ICE, add in kits, spoiler and later when have more $$, dump it into performance hehe. like many converted mitsu and lancer…….typical eh ;)

  99. car_craze said,

    August 28, 2008 @ 9:26 am

    trustgtr - yeah the GPS is detachable so that you can keep it away from sight to prevent theft or break ins. You can also use it on your other car/s. Please read the whole story and comments from the rest BEFORE asking.

  100. bmpower said,

    August 28, 2008 @ 10:18 am

    i like the color only..

  101. car_craze said,

    August 28, 2008 @ 11:05 am

    Voon99 - obviously you don’t use/have a GPS. The SD card is for updating the maps. You can also slot in your SD card from your camera to review your photos or movies.

  102. BanyakMasukBengkel said,

    August 28, 2008 @ 12:02 pm

    price too high ma…
    why tell me late.
    i bought my persona MT last week..

  103. ALPINA BMW said,

    August 28, 2008 @ 1:42 pm

    bloody stupid car, lousy nav system, ugly rims, ugly interior, ugly exterior, this is for the scrapyard

  104. car_craze said,

    August 28, 2008 @ 5:16 pm

    ALPINA BMW - i was wondering when you will come in blind bashing! So you liked the new City eh? Obviously a Honda fan or Honda salesman?

  105. sky said,

    August 28, 2008 @ 5:40 pm

    nothing to be proud of for this SE. Looks like another ah beng pesona on the road. furthermore, looks like proton is trying to clear the old stocks for the waja rim. too bad.
    come on la, proton. since you are so confident with your pesona, why can’t you do more changes on this SE so that it is really “Special”? till then, many people will say “proton is really improving”.

  106. geminas said,

    August 28, 2008 @ 7:50 pm

    im in love with the interior!~

  107. ALPINA BMW said,

    August 28, 2008 @ 8:05 pm

    ALPINA BMW - i was wondering when you will come in blind bashing! So you liked the new City eh? Obviously a Honda fan or Honda salesman?

    no, i own honda. as The Pest says, you want a tip? buy honda shares.

  108. awak said,

    August 28, 2008 @ 8:40 pm

    —————————————————-
    i got a quiz,

    proton’s RWD?
    —————————————————-

  109. topgunthang said,

    August 28, 2008 @ 10:29 pm

    have a read guys. how much u subsidize for the world.
    http://www.caradvice.com.au/16008/2009-proton-satria-now-just-14990/

  110. jong84 said,

    August 29, 2008 @ 10:18 am

    I only Love the GPS and the Leather Seat…

  111. Croc said,

    August 29, 2008 @ 7:42 pm

    can u guys tell me which i suppose to choose between the campro cps and campro iafm in term to save more fuel…

  112. ancient said,

    August 30, 2008 @ 5:21 pm

    hey all, can anyone tell me which is a better car if im comparing the waja and the Persona SE. i plan on buying a new car, cause my beloved 7 yr old waja got stolen a couple of days ago. and hence just doing some research… in terms of fuel consumption, drivability and others, which is a better buy?

    also, i must say, while i loved my waja, the audio controls on the persona steering wheel is small howveer a better bet in the long run as ive had both my audio button controls on the waja steering just fall off while driving!

  113. tehcho1 said,

    August 30, 2008 @ 11:51 pm

    for me, i really have bad experience with potong…
    my advise is to get myvi if got the same budget….
    not just the car but gov protected comp, the employee…suck…..itu macam punya…unproffessional, uncivillazation, uneducated…

    potong pls wake up…

  114. ppseowner said,

    August 31, 2008 @ 1:06 am

    cannot comment too much as the price jz around 60k. if really wan to hv a gd n nice car n so rice. then go to BMW.dun gv too much useless comment.

  115. mister-rey said,

    August 31, 2008 @ 12:27 pm

    i think we just wait for the new Persona SE customers to comment. that would be a better one.

    MERDEKA!!!

  116. yeecheeliang said,

    September 1, 2008 @ 2:53 am

    I feel that is the nice car with reasonable price, pls tell me can Toyota(Vios), Honda(City), Nissan(latio) and Perodua(Myvi - only 1.3cc car selling RM5X,XXX) offer all this equipments with this price?

    For those who look down and don’t like Proton car pls visit to the show room before you give any comment!

    Just to update you all the GPS brand is Lokatoo A900
    OS : Windows CE 5.0
    and you can play Movie,Music, and view photo
    you can visit to http://www.lokatoo.com

  117. David9988 said,

    September 1, 2008 @ 12:25 pm

    value for money, definitely.
    But i think proton can do much better then this considering the huge advantage it has over foreign brands.
    I think that gps is garmin nuvi 200w.. Retails for about rm1000.

  118. SY0H said,

    September 2, 2008 @ 12:11 pm

    Salamz and Hello to fellow Forumers (and you too PaulTan),

    First and foremost, “Selamat Berpuasa Ramadhan”. Maaf zahir dan batin.

    Just another minor face lift from Proton. They could have done it better. I’ve seen other Persona Body Kit at Eneos, Ah Beng shops, Air Master and et-cetera which are far better than the Persona SE. But I have some doubts, if these unofficial custom body kits have been tested via the wind tunnel test for fuel efficiency, wind drag effect, acoustic sound generated by the wind and et-cetera. Maybe Proton did some testing on theirs (I hope). Proton could have copy the New Gen.2 CPS Face Lift into the Persona SE and installed the CPS Engine. Owh gosh, good marketing scheme Proton. *sigh* Anyways, nice try Proton.

    A little bit off topic.
    Conversation with my usual ‘kaki-kereta’ friends for the past few days triggers my mood to write something in this forum, just wanna to share something with the the rest of you guys. Just some points to ponder.

    Ever wonder why we are willing to spend a lot of money modifying cars? And it turns out we are wasting money to impress others. That’s the bottom line. Hear this, most of the time, when we are driving these beautiful cars (and some are not that beautifully modified, yucks!), we are inside the car either driving or just a mere passenger. And worst still, 95% of the car exterior is not visible from inside. The people outside may or may not enjoy the view, but one thing for sure people inside the car wouldn’t care much. We will not achieve the ultimate driving experiencing by having a very cool exterior but really terrible interior, terrible audio system, terrible engine, less functionality and et-cetera. What’s the morale of the story? Make sure when deciding to buy a car (regardless of the model and make) make sure all the criterias (inside-out) are fairly weight and thought.

    Just my 2 Ringgits and 55 Cents (after subsidy revise).

  119. adunadun said,

    September 3, 2008 @ 6:50 pm

    yeecheeliang said
    I feel that is the nice car with reasonable price, pls tell me can Toyota(Vios), Honda(City), Nissan(latio) and Perodua(Myvi - only 1.3cc car selling RM5X,XXX) offer all this equipments with this price?

    ————————————————-
    Haha,if i am holder of Toyota ,Honda franscais + no more NAP….
    i will not reduce the price.,.,why? becasue alot of malaysian are affordable to pay at that price…..cruel is it? kamon la… kompeni perform base on untung, sales? do u think honda can increase production to replace proton market?
    japan come to malaysia not only for auto, give some lose some lahh!!
    mauahahhahahhah…….ok ebli body, go to proton show room now,,queue plzz

  120. Wisdom said,

    September 5, 2008 @ 12:19 am

    Can see a bunch of funny countrymen criticizing their own product. I bet theres no foreigner in here.

    So the foreigner can also read & enjoy…

  121. bukitdamansara said,

    September 5, 2008 @ 4:30 am

    u like..u buy..
    u hate it..dont buy lahh.. easy dude! :)

  122. adunadun said,

    September 6, 2008 @ 5:14 pm

    gud , for a small car maker loh…
    But why name it SE(special edition)? so special aa?
    SE tapi bakal jual banyak gila, so later too many on road, also want to call it SE aa?
    but if i got money , definately i will buy lah.coz it match my working status,requiredmnet.Even if i buy honda,people will not look me as kaya people. it just i like to be malaysian,,,condemn local product…but use it….mauahahh

  123. EVO8223 said,

    September 6, 2008 @ 7:29 pm

    feel that is the nice car with reasonable price, pls tell me can Toyota(Vios), Honda(City), Nissan(latio) offer all this equipments with this price?
    ______________________________________

    HI ALL

    i think that those brand can offer this equipment with amost the same price, but not in Malaysia. Honda civic 2.0 just selling USD 22000 in US. So i think this is where the root cause is. Proton is protected.

    DON GET ME WRONG. I AM SUPPORTING PROTON. But i believe Proton can do better than this.Don forget, proton own lotus. So at this moment, if don satisfied don buy. But it is a good start for proton.

  124. God.of.War said,

    September 8, 2008 @ 12:28 am

    Hi to all that called themselve `highly educated`…
    dont u know bigger size of rim caused high FC ?
    ayya…want to jimat,but dont know how to think….
    n just leave ur `satisfied` comment if u can`t afford to get one!!

    —————————————————————

    To anyone who wrote this, damn u are so clever. Additional weight can cause higher FC la, u buy sport rim ayam brand that is heavier than stock sure la FC higher, put some more money when u wanna buy sportrim, get the one that is 16 inch and lighter or at least same tyre and sport rim weight. NOOBS !

    Sure FC gonna be fine !

  125. God.of.War said,

    September 8, 2008 @ 1:03 am

    can u guys tell me which i suppose to choose between the campro cps and campro iafm in term to save more fuel…

    ————————————————————–

    The answer is, CPS have better FC. Wanna know y? i also dono why…

  126. maniac_naru89 said,

    September 8, 2008 @ 6:49 pm

    Hello!!! Waaahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can get so much for so little money? Really? Man, what a bummer for me cause i am still a student. No money to buy one,even if it is selling at a comparable price to that of a new facelifted MyVi. Never mind. Maybe by the time I have my own money,I can buy a CPS PERSONA for my family. PROTON,keep it up. Develop new products… Us,Malaysians will support you. Just give your best!!!!!

  127. maniac_naru89 said,

    September 8, 2008 @ 6:52 pm

    Hey,guys. I had a ride in a 1.6 Persona last month. The ride was good. Either way,I was wandering anyone has a CPS GEN2 or WAJA here? How is the car? Any better from the old campro? I wanna know the details. Hoping to hear from you guys…

  128. Power Guide said,

    September 28, 2008 @ 2:27 am

    Korang semua ni pandai komen je tapi tak beli pun. kalau beli komen lain la.. klu banyak duit sangat pegi beli kreta slain proton. itu pun klu banyak la tapi tau2 kancil jgk yg mampu hahahahahah… ade stengah tu tak mampu beli pun tapi komen mengalahkan yang mampu beli huhuhuhu

  129. aenz81 said,

    October 13, 2008 @ 12:10 pm

    gundaian said,
    August 27, 2008 @ 8:54 am

    I go to the show room yesterday. The car is very good in all aspect. The seat, the body, the accessory are very good. I almost want to book one.. until I see the steering. damn.. cheap plastic.

    gundaian said,
    August 27, 2008 @ 9:18 am

    Yeah.. for the GPS sure it will be cool if they make a slot over the radio place. Also hope in the future they will consider get a mini TV for an option.

    lone_rider, the steering become an issue because other part of the car are very good.
    ———————————————————————
    *If perodua replace the steering wheel of viva with the BMW’s steering wheel, will viva slow-sales will boost and sell like a hot cakes just because “luxury-feel” steering wheel? And will u prevent to buy Persona SE eventhou it’s have a better spec just because of “cheap-feel” steering wheel?

  130. _Zephyre_ said,

    October 26, 2008 @ 6:12 pm

    Does anyone have pictures of the car in Haze Blue?

  131. yeecheeliang said,

    November 5, 2008 @ 1:58 pm

    Hi everyone, i just receive my Persona SE(Red color) and want to share with you the experience for my new Persona SE.
    The fuel consumption is reasonable around Rm0.18 to RM0.20 similar to my old Waja 1.6A 2003(Mitsubishi engine model).
    The IAFM Engine performance is quite tender but powerful and smooth, and the engine starter sound is difference from old campro engine, the sound is similar to Perdana V6 starter sound feel more advance.
    The sound system is very impressive, even only have 4 speaker but still can produce very strong bass(no need to fix extra Amplifier) and clear. And this Blaupunkt player is quite intelligent. When i travel from KL to Johor listen to FM101.8(MYFM KL), the player able to search and adjust the station frequency automatically, So that i no need to tune the station frequency(FYI,FM 101.8 Johor frequency is FM95.4) while i cross the state border.
    The front blind spot is improve/reduce if compare with Waja, but the Rear blind spot is worst when you reverse is quite challenge.
    The breaking system is not responsive even equipped with EBD and ABS, may be my old Waja breaking system is response fast than Persona SE.
    The Proton Air conditional is very cool! and the wind is very “strong”.
    The sound prove for Persona SE is better than my old Waja, but the engine sound is quite loud when engine in high rev.
    I already sent my Persona SE for 1st 1000km service, around RM15X(including engine lubricant). and i also check the service price list from 1000km to 100000KM is not so expensive around RM2xx(Minor) to RM5XX(Major(FYI, Campro model service is every 10 000KM, the service price can be difference depending what type of lubricant you choose)).
    The GPS Brand is Lokatoo A900, using Windows mobile 5.0 can view photo,video,MP3 Ebook and etc. The Map is very clear and detail, but the navigation is not so accurate and very hard to find your destination. But Navigation in Klang valley is quite accurate. The map update is free you can download from http://www.lokatoo.com

  132. luriaz said,

    November 20, 2008 @ 12:09 pm

    why a there not so much persona SE on the road??
    is there any limit to the persona SE units??
    i have book 1 for myself, still waiting for my loan to approve…
    i ask my SA, he said that persona SE waiting period is around 2 or 3 months…
    why so long waiting period eh??

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