Win a Proton MPV in Proton’s naming contest!
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Proton is having a nationwide naming contest for the new Proton MPV from now until the 30th of September 2008. Participants can enter the contest either via an online website or SMS. I recommend you use the online form as it is free while the SMS costs RM0.80 plus your existing mobile operator charges, unless you suddenly get an idea while you are not at a PC and want to quickly enter it in case someone else thinks of it first. Proton is not profiting from it though as the RM0.80 will be donated to charity.
To join via the website, just fill in this form. For SMS entries, you need to type P (space) IC Number (comma) Your MPV name entry (comma) Rationale for name (comma) Original tagline. Send the SMS to 36677. The example given is “P 821013105150 Familia, MPV is for families to travel together with enough space on long journeys, A place to bond with your family”.
There is a maximum length limit of 1 SMS for each entry, so be sure not to type a description that is so long that it extends over 1 SMS’s length (160 characters). For online entries there is a max limit of 145 characters including spaces as you don’t have to include your IC number in the entry, but fill it in separately in another form field. You will have to be 18 and above to participate.
The grand prize winner will get to name the new Proton MPV and will win one unit of the Proton MPV. Two runner-ups will win a trip for two to Lotus UK worth RM15,000 each.
Winners will be announced at least 1 month before the Proton MPV’s official launch somewhere in end-March 2009. Winners will be contacted in October 2008, but as there are 3 prizes, I think this will be for the two runner-up who will win the trips.
It would not make sense to contact the grand prize winner until much closer to the Proton MPV’s launch date as the chosen name would then be leaked. But then again I might be wrong. Look for one more photo of the chassis after the jump.
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September 8, 2008 @ 7:03 pm
Haiz…looks like dun hav sliding doors..
September 8, 2008 @ 7:10 pm
More details on the specs and equipment:
http://paultan.org/archives/2008/08/02/proton-mpv-exclusive-initial-details-revealed/
http://paultan.org/archives/2008/09/02/proton-mpv-first-batch-to-roll-out-mid-sept-2008/
September 8, 2008 @ 7:12 pm
God bless LG CNS.
September 8, 2008 @ 7:27 pm
Since Proton isn’t all that well received and ppl having negative impression about quality of the car (even among Terenganu govt officials having problem with Proton recently…..)
The MPV should therefore be named something of high-end…..
Lets call it –
“Proton MPV Mercedes”
September 8, 2008 @ 7:35 pm
proton berat
September 8, 2008 @ 8:09 pm
Proton Leewat
September 8, 2008 @ 8:28 pm
just call it P.O.S . Suits any proton just fine.
September 8, 2008 @ 8:34 pm
should have a rollcage !
should be called Proton “16th september” !
September 8, 2008 @ 8:36 pm
Proton Middle age men who has lost fun in driving cars
September 8, 2008 @ 8:39 pm
Is there a limit on the number of entries that can be submitted by one person?
September 8, 2008 @ 9:12 pm
Proton Muatan…
September 8, 2008 @ 9:18 pm
JasonMaxx said,
September 8, 2008 @ 7:03 pm
‘Haiz…looks like dun hav sliding doors..’
This is because Toyota Wish dun hav sliding doors, and perhaps proton does not have the ability to re-engineered the swing doors become slidding doors…
September 8, 2008 @ 9:53 pm
Proton Serba Boleh…. or Proton Serboleh….. hehe… just kidding!
September 8, 2008 @ 9:54 pm
Proton Bunting
September 8, 2008 @ 10:25 pm
Wish-like chassis but need to evaluate your test-drive session. Hope you can get it ASAP.
September 8, 2008 @ 10:27 pm
PROTON JUARA SE
lol ^^
September 8, 2008 @ 10:51 pm
its a good gimmick by proton. keeps interest in the mpv all the way leading up to the launch. for people who are seriously in the market for an mpv(which is probably 5% of the people here), it could make them hold off on a potential purchase today, and wait for this proton mpv and see how it turns out.
going by how well proton cars are being received currently, and the fact that people are actually coming out to defend proton when the terengganu govt. made some crazy claims of super high maintenance for their perdana’s shows that the public are getting behind proton again. hopefully they continue to deliver, improve and not betray their consumers trust again. there isnt much protection left for them now, and it will definitely disappear all together in the near future.
September 8, 2008 @ 10:57 pm
Proton oredi has “SAVVY”.
The new MPV should be named “BADAWY”, as to commemorate his flip-flop administration.
hehehehehe
September 8, 2008 @ 10:58 pm
proton P7 ,carryover name like Gen2 or people 7
proton inspirasi ,(longer name for bigger car)
proton panorama, (eventful, journey, enjoy)
proton kruza 7, (seven seater cruiser)
proton famila, (family)
proton multisita, (multi seats undestandbly 7 seater)
proton keruza
proton fleet7
proton merdeka, (big car ,freedom)
proton gaya7 (the way of being 7s)
September 8, 2008 @ 11:04 pm
All these ppl worship the west.! ekekeke
September 8, 2008 @ 11:14 pm
proton journey
proton viaggio (journey in italy)
proton voyage
proton MP7
proton carrier (harrier?)
proton bravo
proton dare
proton grandia
proton molek
proton hebat
proton ippo
proton comodita (comfort in italy)
September 8, 2008 @ 11:26 pm
wah u both give such good ideas make sure u enter contest first…otherwise org lain curi rugi wooo
September 9, 2008 @ 12:10 am
proton lanlcly
proton sucker
proton fucsuk
proton fu
proton cb
proton haiso
proton baici
proton stupid
September 9, 2008 @ 12:23 am
show ur talent guys..!!
even in japan they use karut marut punya nama…hehe
September 9, 2008 @ 12:39 am
Proton Kangkong…yehaaa…:)
Just kidding ppl. Really hope that Proton will not be like NAZA last time, during the NAZA MPV naming contest (self proclaimed Malaysia’s first MPV) they just scrap the competition at the end.
And the Kia Carnival have been officially named NAZA RIA without even thinking on people’s effort submitting (ppl have to propose name, give rationale and design the logo) gone with the wind..sigh…
September 9, 2008 @ 1:03 am
proton peniru……..
September 9, 2008 @ 2:19 am
Woah….I’d like to be the runner up winner. Heheh.
September 9, 2008 @ 3:54 am
proton ‘ eem-pee-vee’ !!
September 9, 2008 @ 5:31 am
proton linear
proton complement
proton element
proton polygon
proton symmetry
September 9, 2008 @ 6:08 am
proton kotak (juara) hehehe
September 9, 2008 @ 6:59 am
Proton Bencana or maybe Proton Puaka..
ahaks.. Proton Seterika pun OK what.. lol (T_T)
September 9, 2008 @ 7:10 am
since it copy wish style just call it Proton Wish lar
headache…
September 9, 2008 @ 7:41 am
Whats up with the tiny brakes?!
I sure hope those wont be on the production car. Good luck stopping a realatively heavy vehicle with those on.
September 9, 2008 @ 7:52 am
Proton Harap a.k.a Wish in Malay. Check the paultan forum for my chopping of the upcoming MPV.
September 9, 2008 @ 8:14 am
Proton Sumo
Proton Fuyoh
Proton Goliath
Proton King Kong
Proton T-Rex
Proton Abang Savvy
…
September 9, 2008 @ 8:19 am
even NSX looks like ferrari…coz they cant afford so they made their own copy laa…according to my japs frens
September 9, 2008 @ 8:19 am
Combine Wish, Innova, Livina and Stream.
Proton Innowish, Liviwish, Streamish, Wishina, Wishova, Linova.
September 9, 2008 @ 8:45 am
Proton Impian
September 9, 2008 @ 8:55 am
PROTON DNA
September 9, 2008 @ 9:09 am
It is a chance to be a winner. So let’s named the mpv properly even it is copy Toyota Wish…
So, let’s call it “Proton Vish” (copy the name as well) lol.
September 9, 2008 @ 9:11 am
Proton Lampin Pakai Buang <– to long, cannot
Proton Must Improve <– hmm, cannot
Proton Cheap <– also cannot
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hmm, I don’t know lah..
September 9, 2008 @ 9:11 am
Proton Tiruan
Proton Tiada Creativity
Proton Copycat
Proton Deathtrap during festive season
Proton Taiwan
September 9, 2008 @ 9:14 am
Proton Protong (Name famous at rakyat)
Proton BN (Owner Company)
Proton Belacan (Support local food)
Proton Pisang (Shape like pisang)
Proton Camlah (Campro and Pak Lah)
Proton Rojak (It combine all brand MPV design)
Proton Jeanna (Owner Chic Name)
September 9, 2008 @ 9:22 am
Salamz and Hi,
It should be named as;
PROTON CHAMPION SPECIAL EDITION (in accordance to the first Proton Juara Model)
or
PROTON TIN MILO (Extra Large Edition).
Good luck contestants, we should be posting all these ideas to Proton’s Website lah. Not here. Haha.
September 9, 2008 @ 9:32 am
Proton Breakdown…
Why are we posting the names here??? Send it in
September 9, 2008 @ 9:45 am
So this time around no more pride n joy. Should be hatred summore. Haha..
September 9, 2008 @ 9:58 am
I get an idea, Proton Murahnor - (Murah Bebenor). Sound like Murano isnt it.
September 9, 2008 @ 10:04 am
proton genesis .
proton active
proton heart
proton …..
September 9, 2008 @ 10:13 am
dgsport89 said,
September 9, 2008 @ 1:03 am
proton peniru……..
Ralliace said,
September 9, 2008 @ 9:11 am
Proton Tiruan
Proton Tiada Creativity
Proton Copycat
Proton Deathtrap during festive season
Proton Taiwan
kevintth said,
September 9, 2008 @ 9:09 am
It is a chance to be a winner. So let’s named the mpv properly even it is copy Toyota Wish…
So, let’s call it “Proton Vish” (copy the name as well) lol.
DC5H14 said,
September 9, 2008 @ 8:19 am
even NSX looks like ferrari…coz they cant afford so they made
their own copy laa…according to my japs frens
***LU SEMUA ADA MATA BUKAK BESAR2… TENGOK KIA SORENTO DEPAN TIRU BULAT2 GRILL BMW APASAL TAK BISING2..HYUNDAI TIRU HONDA LU ORANG APASAL TADAK BISING JUGAK
September 9, 2008 @ 11:14 am
May i know what is the meaning to provide the tagline in the contest form?
“Provide us a tagline to go with your MPV name “
September 9, 2008 @ 11:16 am
Perodua named it’s so called mpv rusa.
Maybe Protong should name the new mpv kambing. lol…
September 9, 2008 @ 11:29 am
PROTON PM7 (PEOPLE MOVER, 7 PERSON)
September 9, 2008 @ 11:50 am
“Maybe Protong should name the new mpv kambing. lol…”
ya.. maybe you should enter the competition with that name.. you might actually win
September 9, 2008 @ 11:50 am
Proton Saborn (Kotak Sabun)
Proton Longkut (Lori Angkut)
Proton Charm (Campur)
Proton Notogo (No where to go)
Proton Gen3 (After Gen2)
Proton MPV Neo (Satria Neo)
Proton MPV Trinity (Matrix Family)
and goes on~lol
September 9, 2008 @ 11:54 am
Proton Parlam (for auntie pasar malam buy stuff, easy to dabao~)
September 9, 2008 @ 12:16 pm
Hmm…
Proton Mee
Proton Youu
Proton Ba
Proton Dawi
Proton Na
Proton Jib
Proton Sa
Proton Mi
Proton Vel
Proton Lu
Proton Aerospace
Proton Malasia
Proton TM
September 9, 2008 @ 12:20 pm
***LU SEMUA ADA MATA BUKAK BESAR2… TENGOK KIA SORENTO DEPAN TIRU BULAT2 GRILL BMW APASAL TAK BISING2..HYUNDAI TIRU HONDA LU ORANG APASAL TADAK BISING JUGAK
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Bangang mangkuk,sebab kereta tu ada kualiti! You patut bukak Kamus Dewan(Buku Hijau tu) dan cari makna perkataan kualiti.Sebab itu kita orang tak bising,bukan mcm Proton,dahlah tiru org lain,lepas itu kualiti macam berak.
September 9, 2008 @ 12:22 pm
proton cherry..
September 9, 2008 @ 12:25 pm
At least its Malaysian . NOT foreign . Make a resonable judgement la…even Kia also quality not far from proton what…make a survey among spectra user …you’ll know la…If proton badge its product as Maserati..I think even u”ll not complain..ha ha ha
September 9, 2008 @ 12:26 pm
the brake disks are indeed small. I’d be nervous thinking abt the stopping capability of this car when loaded with 7 people.
BTW, how la ppl could suggest a suitable name when the car is in the form of skeleton or “bangkai”?
It’s like naming an animal without knowing the character and the outlook of the animal…
Another proton’s flip flop?….
September 9, 2008 @ 12:26 pm
Bangang mangkuk,sebab kereta tu ada kualiti! You patut bukak Kamus Dewan(Buku Hijau tu) dan cari makna perkataan kualiti.Sebab itu kita orang tak bising,bukan mcm Proton,dahlah tiru org lain,lepas itu kualiti macam berak.
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i think u re driving a maserati, dats y proton is no compete in quality..but the reality is its in ur dream only hehehhe
September 9, 2008 @ 12:32 pm
Roti Naan…the quality of braking improves with ABS , EBD + BA..not the size of the disc…a mat rempit bike has bigger disc than Grand Livina but if you compare the braking..you know la the difference…ha ha ha
September 9, 2008 @ 12:40 pm
why you all ppl neg thinking. I suggest you all give the MPV name may be you can get MPV for free and if you think not ngam buang sungai agelah. May be one of you the using proton car and still using.
September 9, 2008 @ 12:42 pm
roti naan,
“It’s like naming an animal without knowing the character and the outlook of the animal…”
if you’ve actually seen the ad in the paper about the contest or been to the contest website(www.namakanprotonmpv.com), there is an explanation of the character of the car.
so who is flip-flopping now?
September 9, 2008 @ 12:43 pm
Bangang mangkuk,sebab kereta tu ada kualiti! You patut bukak Kamus Dewan(Buku Hijau tu) dan cari makna perkataan kualiti.Sebab itu kita orang tak bising,bukan mcm Proton,dahlah tiru org lain,lepas itu kualiti macam berak.
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i think u re driving a maserati, dats y proton is no compete in quality..but the reality is its in ur dream only hehehhe
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the funnier thing is, maserati’s are not known for their build quality either.
September 9, 2008 @ 12:46 pm
Gimick je from protong
Proton Tairuz (Name mcm dari U.S tak?hehe..)
Apela..sume nak tiru..
September 9, 2008 @ 12:49 pm
Look at 2nd pictures..
SZ show his middle finger to that future potong MPV..
Hmm,bad..bad..
September 9, 2008 @ 1:14 pm
Weird.
Everytime I click & posted an entry, got this tiny error line on the top of the page:
“Information was not completed to send the email out. Please contact admin@namakanprotonmpv.com ”
But on the webpage, it stated:
“Thank you for your participation!
Your contest entry has been sent.”
Proton Edar need to fix that error. Very confusing… Don’t know if the entry has been sent or not.
September 9, 2008 @ 1:23 pm
Proton GRAND Juara
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grand?
September 9, 2008 @ 1:33 pm
I got a funny feeling that I’m gonna win.
September 9, 2008 @ 1:37 pm
lol, i have the feeling too. not only feeling, i know it’s there.
September 9, 2008 @ 2:01 pm
Looks promising!
Paul, did you get the 3 spyshot photos? (can’t call it spyshot actually, bcoz it was taken in Proton’s factory)? even Azlano bengang giler when these photos flooded in the internet! Untung ada internet!
who wants those photos? raise your hand! Hahaha!
Paul Tan says: yes of course. but it is illegal to publish because the photos were not taken on public roads. but theophilus chin has done some photoshops in one of the previous proton mpv stories based on those leaked photos.
September 9, 2008 @ 2:09 pm
itu toyota TIRU HIDUNG DUGONG TAKDAK BISING PUN!..
Dugong pun bising dan marah toyota. Royalti tarak bayar juga!.
lagi baru mau bikin Innova Dugong!
September 9, 2008 @ 2:17 pm
i’ll call it Proton Dinosaur
September 9, 2008 @ 2:20 pm
this is the first mpv for national car
why dont put the name ‘Proton MPV
because we all known the prototype by that name……..?
September 9, 2008 @ 2:26 pm
Wah.. #2 Hadiah is nice la.. i want #2 .. no the winner.. #2 is hard to resist.
September 9, 2008 @ 2:31 pm
Name it Proton Gone Wild..
September 9, 2008 @ 2:57 pm
BanyakMasukWorkshop said,
September 9, 2008 @ 12:42 pm
roti naan,
“It’s like naming an animal without knowing the character and the outlook of the animal…”
if you’ve actually seen the ad in the paper about the contest or been to the contest website(www.namakanprotonmpv.com), there is an explanation of the character of the car.
so who is flip-flopping now?
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I checked the site you have given. but there are no pictures of the mpv. (except a black & white skeletal car “hovering” at the right corner of the webpage) That is why I mentioned naming a car without looking at it is pretty much silly.
I guess there is no prize in guess who is the flip flop now….
September 9, 2008 @ 3:01 pm
since it can occupy 7,
proton seventon.
like lamborghini reventon hehehe.
September 9, 2008 @ 3:14 pm
screw those people who kutuk proton.
if you’re so good why not you start a car company ?
you think manufacturing a car is like making a toy car ?
you can kutuk it when u have the ability to even make a car.
you all don’t even appreciate the car in your own country how u expect other people to appreciate it.
change your mentality people.
do u all know how much does it cost to build a new car from ground up ?
its not cheap to engineer a car.
i think you all should learn about appreciation.
September 9, 2008 @ 3:48 pm
I checked the site you have given. but there are no pictures of the mpv. (except a black & white skeletal car “hovering” at the right corner of the webpage) That is why I mentioned naming a car without looking at it is pretty much silly.
I guess there is no prize in guess who is the flip flop now….
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“It’s like naming an animal without knowing the character and the outlook of the animal…”
I’m pretty sure you know very well why there is no pic of the car, so there is no need to explain really. but honestly, do you really need to know how it looks like to name it? isnt knowing the character of the car enough? heck, we even name our kids before we know their names, let alone their characters..
September 9, 2008 @ 3:58 pm
Some people naming their baby before even birth…
some naming their baby after see the baby..after birth..
eh szw…syed zainal’s wife??
Lets name it..Proton Kong.
September 9, 2008 @ 4:01 pm
cheer up guys… don’t gaduh2 (like don’t belok2 advert hahaha)… i’ve send PROTON HADHARI… sure can win ka?? LOL
September 9, 2008 @ 4:51 pm
szw said,
September 9, 2008 @ 3:14 pm
screw those people who kutuk proton.
if you’re so good why not you start a car company ?
you think manufacturing a car is like making a toy car ?
you can kutuk it when u have the ability to even make a car.
you all don’t even appreciate the car in your own country how u expect other people to appreciate it.
change your mentality people.
do u all know how much does it cost to build a new car from ground up ?
its not cheap to engineer a car.
i think you all should learn about appreciation.
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Give me the authority, i’ll do it. Where on earth/ “Where on Malaysia” u’ll find this ‘golden opportunity’ to manufacture car with full support from government in term of financial + cornering consumer to buy it? If it is just for the sake of doing it. Stop, dun suffer those “cornered” Malaysian anymore. I was there b4, i knew the feeling. Don’t u?
September 9, 2008 @ 5:03 pm
I am submitting this contest. I named it Proton Angkut 1.6
September 9, 2008 @ 5:10 pm
wow!! so many comment!! the best part is this show that Malaysians is really care about what proton do. and really2 best part is so many good names they gives to proton. common guys, submit your form using many creative name for exple la: like proton badawy, kambing, makan, kangkong, = had hari..
huhu…
September 9, 2008 @ 5:16 pm
proton sebulan
proton ccm (cepat cepat mati)
proton tdr-X (telan duit rakyat Kau-kau (X) )
proton bj (boleh jalan)
September 9, 2008 @ 5:39 pm
Dear szw,
R U protong staff? I know it is not eazy to build a car from zero. But dont build it the cin chay way. look at the shit design juara, tiara, back light of waja”dog bone”, Gen 2 no glove box . Shit head Proton R&D Dept!
September 9, 2008 @ 5:58 pm
szw said,
September 9, 2008 @ 3:14 pm
screw those people who kutuk proton.
if you’re so good why not you start a car company ?
you think manufacturing a car is like making a toy car ?
you can kutuk it when u have the ability to even make a car.
you all don’t even appreciate the car in your own country how u expect other people to appreciate it.
change your mentality people.
do u all know how much does it cost to build a new car from ground up ?
its not cheap to engineer a car.
i think you all should learn about appreciation.
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Yo szw:
If you want to screw the epople who dislikes Proton. you will be screwed 1st! I am driving a Gen2. I had arguement with my family for the decision that I’ve made to buy a Proton, BECAUSE I HAVE FAITH IN IT!. I used to support Proton But eventually it proved me wrong. I wouldn’t BLINDLY appreciate something just because it is Malaysian Made. I would be proud and highly spirited shouting ‘Malaysia Boleh’ when our cars are competitive not just the PRICE! But the Quality, Safety and Reliability. It is true that lots of $$$ to build a car, but buliding cars that risks ones life cost much much more dearly than the cost of building a car. Am I Right Guys?
September 9, 2008 @ 6:00 pm
PROTON BESAR
September 9, 2008 @ 6:01 pm
Try to imagine… Driving a MPV with 6 of your loved ones to a place, then the car suddenly malfunctioned, burst into flames, ABS not funtioning, car doors locked by itself, AirBag did not deployed… How would you appreciate a car like that?
September 9, 2008 @ 6:07 pm
are u trying to say~~
T Advan Za?
September 9, 2008 @ 6:10 pm
PLease dun judge a book by its cover
Or
DUn Judge a car by its skeleton~~
xD
September 9, 2008 @ 6:54 pm
bear in mind guys, proton always go for malay name, so my idea is ….proton goreng? proton boleh? proton raya? proton sensasi? proton sinario? ……. dam it
September 9, 2008 @ 6:54 pm
Cyberkayu said,
September 9, 2008 @ 6:10 pm
PLease dun judge a book by its cover
Or
DUn Judge a car by its skeleton~~
xD
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Yup.. I agree with it. But something must be added:
Judge a car by its reputation and feedback from the owners!
September 9, 2008 @ 7:11 pm
We here are not try to protest Proton we know is not easy to build car from zero we hope Proton can produce quality car I don’t care a National car with a bit lover technology than other but it must have the quality, Proton is not a new company even Perodua much younger but the Viva is the example low in technology but better quality accordingly to it price, maybe you will say there are Japanese company support, but Proton have the chance too just only the Proton management ignore it….is not we don’t appreciate the car in our own country, I am sure most of us own a Proton car before, we are waiting for Proton to make change and produce a quality car, if you have follow up with the GEN 2 export to China through Yongman, take a chance to search how the local people there to rate the car, I feel very sad after reading those comment. We always criticize the quality of product from China, but now look at how people comment the GEN 2. Proton in Europe you can event search the comment form You Tube, At middle east Wira is just a low fare economic Taxi. Back to local Proton try to make change but many time we disappointed by the new model, Proton willing to change but make it very rough. In summary, we also not feeling well when other country sneer for the National car it’s equal to sneer for the Nation.
September 9, 2008 @ 7:36 pm
alvin_chan88 said,
September 9, 2008 @ 6:01 pm
Wa ???no1
You can imagine already even before the car launch to market.
Er, what’s TOTO 1st prize number ah this week?
September 9, 2008 @ 7:42 pm
If it realy good in price and with all the reasonable feuture we call it
Proton BONANZA
September 9, 2008 @ 8:05 pm
Dear msmar_453,
I really *do* think that Azlano want us to read between the lines.
Probably that is his indirect way of telling us that it is THE MPV.
RT.
September 9, 2008 @ 8:51 pm
alvin_chan88, if all those shits happens to u all in 1 time, then u should start considering mayb ur the problem
not the car! ur mentality already told u its not good, no matter what others did to improve u’ll THINK its bad, thats malaysian! which is quite sucks n quite the reason y v r stuck in this state! guys, pls la, stop living in the past la! negativity wont bring any1 or any country forward! u guys have creativity, but used them in a very very negative ways…thats y mamak can live in malaysia, n lots of damn mlm able to flourish in malaysia! with ppl like u guys tat keep dreaming of fast cash n only like to blow water rather than use your creativity on productivity stuff! losers
September 9, 2008 @ 8:53 pm
szw said,
September 9, 2008 @ 3:14 pm
screw those people who kutuk proton.
if you’re so good why not you start a car company ?…
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I am also agree with what ’szw’ saids, to build a car is not easy, need a lot of money. But given that sum of money, I might start one as well.
The word that I talked about here is again, ‘efficiency’, it is not only about how much money or how difficult. When one hand they sponsored some football team with millions of ringgit, on the other hand received a relief fund when making a lose, this business definitely need ‘a lot of money’, cause they still need to built some motorbikes, bicycles and cover some losing money foreign company.
When talking about they engineered a car, I guess not much they have done in this aspect, most of the time the engineering done by their suppliers engineer, or a least a few that I know. By stretching some line in the drawing, or suggested a PVC water pipe from hardware shop to solve suspension problem, this is more like a mechanic or draughtsman job.
September 9, 2008 @ 8:59 pm
to alvin_chan88
bro , im driving a proton too.
in fact its a waja.
i don find any problem with it so.
and fyi , my car is older then yours.
with a full tank of petrol it still able to clock 500km for a full tank.
what do u think for a 6 yo car ?
nowadays car lifespan is 5 yrs only ok…
all i can say that u have a bad luck.
u try go look around see is there any persona owner complaining ?
September 9, 2008 @ 9:01 pm
and btw , stop living in the gen.2 pass
September 9, 2008 @ 9:36 pm
alvin_chan88 said,
September 9, 2008 @ 6:01 pm
Try to imagine… Driving a MPV with 6 of your loved ones to a place, then the car suddenly malfunctioned, burst into flames, ABS not funtioning, car doors locked by itself, AirBag did not deployed… How would you appreciate a car like that?
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wow… we have a clairvoyant in our midst.. erm.. can i ask you if PKR will be able to form the govt come the 16th???
September 9, 2008 @ 9:55 pm
September 9, 2008 @ 6:01 pm
Try to imagine… Driving a MPV with 6 of your loved ones to a place, then the car suddenly malfunctioned, burst into flames, ABS not funtioning, car doors locked by itself, AirBag did not deployed… How would you appreciate a car like that?
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I’m not quite sure whether to agree with the statement or deny it. Of course imagine any types of MPV, SUV, 4WD or whatever types of vehicle you name it suddenly malfunctioned and so on like you’ve mentioned earlier. But you’ve already start making a judgement before it’s even driven on the road.
Now that’s accusing a car which COULD be good or either the other way round. Every car on the road has potential to kill the driver and the passengers. Even a HUGE LORRY driver could have die due to accidents.
But don’t forget that Proton has been trying their very best in their point of view. We’ve been comparing too much with the foreign car manufacturer. Try looking inside Malaysia itself before we look outside of our country. Perhaps compare to Perodua first.
As we know, Perodua probably MAY NOT even have their OWN design of car. In others words, they just do some touch up and ‘Tadaa’ we have a BRAND new car. That’s just gimmick in my opinion. No offense to Perodua owners out there I stress this.
I’m not trying to help Proton but it’s just try to look at a different point of view. Take some time to think about how, why, what and where.
Remember how Toyota wasn’t as good as now they were? But because of their support of their own people, they slowly step up and be better from one step at a time.
Perhaps this time the new MPV would give a better impression to all the consumers out there. Let’s hope this time Proton would rise and be accepted by almost all Malaysians.
*peace V *
September 9, 2008 @ 10:10 pm
i did tease the gen 2 cps,
the driver agitated, the car sprint fast, yes fast,
campro cps is very athletic, well the campro cps powered this mpv. hope campro cps do the job well enough.
ok naming,
proton - - - - -a
September 9, 2008 @ 10:24 pm
fastcx said,
September 9, 2008 @ 8:51 pm
alvin_chan88, if all those shits happens to u all in 1 time, then u should start considering mayb ur the problem not the car! ur mentality already told u its not good, no matter what others did to improve u’ll THINK its bad, thats malaysian! which is quite sucks n quite the reason y v r stuck in this state! guys, pls la, stop living in the past la! negativity wont bring any1 or any country forward! u guys have creativity, but used them in a very very negative ways…thats y mamak can live in malaysia, n lots of damn mlm able to flourish in malaysia! with ppl like u guys tat keep dreaming of fast cash n only like to blow water rather than use your creativity on productivity stuff! losers
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szw said,
September 9, 2008 @ 8:59 pm
to alvin_chan88
bro , im driving a proton too.
in fact its a waja.
i don find any problem with it so.
and fyi , my car is older then yours.
with a full tank of petrol it still able to clock 500km for a full tank.
what do u think for a 6 yo car ?
nowadays car lifespan is 5 yrs only ok…
all i can say that u have a bad luck.
u try go look around see is there any persona owner complaining
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BanyakMasukWorkshop said,
September 9, 2008 @ 9:36 pm
alvin_chan88 said,
September 9, 2008 @ 6:01 pm
Try to imagine… Driving a MPV with 6 of your loved ones to a place, then the car suddenly malfunctioned, burst into flames, ABS not funtioning, car doors locked by itself, AirBag did not deployed… How would you appreciate a car like that?
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wow… we have a clairvoyant in our midst.. erm.. can i ask you if PKR will be able to form the govt come the 16th???
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to Fastcx:
Its not my mentality that is the problem, I don’t know whether you are a person that has the “tidak apa” attitude where if the car can run… then its ok type. I am not a perfectionist, but at least give me a car which is acceptable in general, If not because of Proton, perhaps we can have a better car at an affordable price. But if Proton is seriously wanted to be competitive, the QC must be improved, but based on what I see the comments from the owners, problems starts to come even the 1st month of owning the car even its the newly launched SAGA, please chack at Paul’s Automotive Forum before commenting. In fact, some of those problems faced by the new SAGA owners are similar with my Gen 2 as well… So did they improve? In terms marketing, YES, in terms of technology, YES. In terms of QC, NO. Oh ya, btw I am a very careful person towards my car, I service it before it clocks every 5000KM and i use Fully synthetic engine oil, even the service manager of COE Shah Alam had praised me for being caring for my car. Don’t think that I abuse my car. I challenge u to come and see my car to believe it!
As for SZW:
Let me tell you my family’s fate with Proton,
1st proton my family owned - Proton Saga Aeroback 1992 (A) - That is the best Proton we have driven before and we still miss it very much.
2nd Proton - Proton Wira Aeroback (A) 1996 - Not a bad car, drove it for a good 6 years before selling it.
3rd Proton - Proton WAJA 1.6 (A) in 2003 - Alarm goes haywire, the door lock by itself although I unlocked it, Air - cond compressor failed, tail light masuk water, Power window failed. The car got stollen in 2007.
4th Proton - Proton GEN 2 1.6 (A) in 2006 - The engine gave problem, the so - called canister gave problem till now, my dashboard paint peeled, drive shaft not properly installed. If I am unlucky, then why such consistent problems happen to both my Waja and Gen 2? I think you are the only LUCKY one and most of them are UNLUCKY. About persona… I saw a lady driving a persona broke down in MRR2, then i pulled over and ask and she told me she don’t know and the car had delivered to her just 2 weeks ago? Unlucky again huh? If a car’s average life span is 5 years, then what is the brag about Toyota, Honda cars last much longer as other have said?
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To BanyakMasukWorkshop:
I am trying to relate what had happened to all other Proton model’s problem and relate it to the MPV, If Proton cannot even make the SAGA in an acceptable manner, whatabout MPV? Want to know more about SAGA problems? Please check it out at Paul’s Forum. As for whether PKR can topple the G anot? er….. I cannot predict but I hope it will.
September 9, 2008 @ 10:36 pm
Oh ya SZW:
forgot to tell you, As I have mentioned before, because of the WAJA problem, my father had against towards me uying the GEN 2, But I thought, believe, trust Proton for improving its quality, so I made the wrongful decision, if you were in my shoes, how do you feel? Should I blame it merely because I am unlucky or I should put the blame back to Proton? I am considered lucky as my GEN 2 won’t ignite into flames as mentioned by some of the owners before.
September 9, 2008 @ 11:00 pm
Suggested names for Proton MPV
If you have purchased the car without major problems, the name should be Proton Kelakar, because the vehicle is such a bargain that it makes you laugh all the way to the banks with the savings thatyou have made.
If the car is a lemon, then it should be Proton Celaka, for all the miseries it brought you.
No offense to Proton as I own a Waja since 2001 and a Saga BLM since 2008.
September 9, 2008 @ 11:47 pm
the proton internet propaganda machine is alot bigger than i thought. go ask any of your friends who bought a proton and see how many of them actually recommend you to buy one with your own money.
alvin chan88
was reading your paragraph
“3rd Proton - Proton WAJA 1.6 (A) in 2003 - Alarm goes haywire, the door lock by itself although I unlocked it, Air - cond compressor failed, tail light masuk water, Power window failed. The car got stollen in 2007″
…….someone was kind enough to solve some of your problems for you.
anyway i beleive protection will be there for proton for a very very long time. if they werent guaranteed protection, then proton can close shop immediately. literally this instant. pronto. maggi-instant-noodle
September 10, 2008 @ 12:45 am
looks like this naming contest will be scrap at the end. everyone came here to suggest name here not to them haha…
September 10, 2008 @ 12:57 am
haha.. different ppl hv differents point of view. Some may for good, some doesnt. Some may experienced bad things bout their products, some doensnt mind bout it at all. But this doenst mean that u can quickly judge it wrongly. Terima shj lar keadaan tu, things happens for a reason. This is normal lar. We’re only humans… just dont be so selfish. What ever it is, a good job for proton of late.
September 10, 2008 @ 1:53 am
alvin_chan88, i owns a satria neo, n its over 2yrs old without failing me, including lots of club members. so since u dare to challenge me go ahead, im sure proton arent using great quality parts(this is a fact), what make me piss is as if u can see the future! i know some saga owners, those that have issues usually are those that didn’t check their cars before collection, or even when some small symptoms come out they just dont bother!
as for your campro using fully synthetic…u have the money to use it, go ahead, for a fact, fully synthetic doesn’t equals to better than semi!
my family car history r filled with protons, mayb u can say im a lucky B.astard, none of them give issues from old saga over 10yrs to the last damn milo tin saga n another wira + current satria neo.
its been over 2yrs for my neo, other than my driver side door handle is scratched by me, i dont see paint come off or fade, engine give no headache(which i do around 7k rpm rev with couple of track day abuse), headlight(right) gone around 2yrs of use, brake light (right) gone after over 1.5yrs of use. whats more, i change oil around 6~7k. occasional ulu yam route to genting n kuala klawang trip. call me lucky if u want, i just love my car as it give me no trouble but joy!
pls becareful with dealer u choose, most of them arent being responsible. n dont send your car to damn SC that dont even looks properly managed! if your around pj area, send your car to S13, or jalan 222 area…at least they do things professionally most of the time when u explain your condition rather than go there express your emotion
September 10, 2008 @ 2:25 am
hopefully the 1st batch of whatever name it might be MPV will not burden buyers like gen2.
ahhh reminds me my dad’s gen2. lots of probs..engine stop like a magic when i was driving it in the middle of the road..seb baik sempat berenti beside the road by momentum..day 3 having that car (T_T). damn captor wish the dealer could explain well to customer before handing the car…totally not the car probs, but when sent to SC. they dont know the probs. WTH..?! release car without technician?
bukak sana sini then ok. lepas tu assemble balik probs come never end. the temperature gone crazy. lepas tu after 1 year being burden by load of probs. the car behave well after it got a new cylinder heads. water jackets in the stock cylinder head seem broken….
the most interesting part is the they named the car syndrome as syndrome ****…hahaha…brought up to their meeting..penat
otsukare
September 10, 2008 @ 7:11 am
fastcx said,
September 10, 2008 @ 1:53 am
alvin_chan88, i owns a satria neo, n its over 2yrs old without failing me, including lots of club members. so since u dare to challenge me go ahead, im sure proton arent using great quality parts(this is a fact), what make me piss is as if u can see the future! i know some saga owners, those that have issues usually are those that didn’t check their cars before collection, or even when some small symptoms come out they just dont bother!
as for your campro using fully synthetic…u have the money to use it, go ahead, for a fact, fully synthetic doesn’t equals to better than semi!
my family car history r filled with protons, mayb u can say im a lucky B.astard, none of them give issues from old saga over 10yrs to the last damn milo tin saga n another wira + current satria neo.
its been over 2yrs for my neo, other than my driver side door handle is scratched by me, i dont see paint come off or fade, engine give no headache(which i do around 7k rpm rev with couple of track day abuse), headlight(right) gone around 2yrs of use, brake light (right) gone after over 1.5yrs of use. whats more, i change oil around 6~7k. occasional ulu yam route to genting n kuala klawang trip. call me lucky if u want, i just love my car as it give me no trouble but joy!
pls becareful with dealer u choose, most of them arent being responsible. n dont send your car to damn SC that dont even looks properly managed! if your around pj area, send your car to S13, or jalan 222 area…at least they do things professionally most of the time when u explain your condition rather than go there express your emotion
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Dear friend:
Please remember, I sais IMAGINE, not I PREDICTING. There are differences between both of them, as for what you said, you are going to 1 lucky fella that had NO problems with Proton, I sincerely congatulate you. But you did mentioned something about inspecting our car before taking it. I bought the car from Glemnarie Shah Alam, when the car had delivered to me, the door couldn’t open, I rejected and the car was delivered to me 2 weeks later. And how can you put the burden on the owner instead of the manufacturer? We paid the money for the car so we should get the car in tip top condition. Don’t you think you should blame the QC rather than us buyers? If we are so smart to check the condition of the drive shaft, gear box, power window and etc… I guess we will be building cars or at least own a mechanic shop already. You also did say that some dealers are not responsible, that is the main problem, form QC to the controlling of dealers, Proton has not improve and it should be rectified by them, NOT US! They had received our money then they must FULFILL their responsibility as or country’s car manufacturer! COE is the biggest service center among all in KL, If that place also cannot be managed properly, then please don’t talk about running the whole company properly. And to be honest with you, I stayed in CHERAS, but I still send it to COE for regular servicing and warranty because they are the biggest, supposingly to be the best. My friend, indirectly you had pin pointed the problems with Proton already. 1st the QC, then the Management, then the Control of dealers, Its a chain effect that cause the burden among buyers (xcept for you) and you are putting the blame on us? how pathetic… btw I had expressed my feelings towards Proton numerous times and they too admitted that the QC had to beef up as there are problems with it. I always say this ‘Proton designs are ok, the performance also ok, the problem is the QC, if they can meet the international standard of QC, they would not have been done that badly, at least I am really proud to have a Proton and no regrets about it.”
September 10, 2008 @ 7:31 am
Proton MPV Great, Proton MY Car, Proton My Life, Proton My Sweet Heart,
Get lost to those who downgrade proton, because you all have no……..in malaysia
September 10, 2008 @ 8:23 am
alvin_chan88, what’s past is past. Bad memories will always haunt us. We all can forgive but we can’t forget.
And what were looking ahead in the future is improvement. Proton has improve in certain aspect. As for the QC, let’s hope that this time the MPV has international QC.
Whatever happen to your history of Proton, it’s history. Forget the past and look ahead. Be a positive mind thinker, and thus you shall be one rational positive mind thinker.
*Did you know that the first batch of BMW 5 series has ONLY 3 STARS SAFETY and full of problems too?
*peace V*
September 10, 2008 @ 9:43 am
Nothing to said, just wish Good Luck to proton for the new MPV…
September 10, 2008 @ 10:14 am
yeah..totally agree with u keatsan. we shld +ve in everyway not blaming each other rite. its not helping. so why dont we start from naming this new guy a nice name..(^_^)V
September 10, 2008 @ 10:27 am
topgunthang, this time, i totally agree with your statement. “if they werent guaranteed protection, then proton can close shop immediately.”
its definitely true. the previous management of the company went about their business in that manner, coz they’re protected, they can do anything they want, and still come out smelling rosy.
but what i dont agree with you, is that you totally 100% ignore what is happening in proton today and for the last 2 or so years.
the market today is also very different today. proton is not as protected anymore as you claim. korean cars are cheap now, and with the help of naza, they are even tax exempted, being national cars.. likewise with perodua, who has had huge successes with their myvi. 2 years ago, these guys almost killed proton, with huge sales going to perodua and the koreans. everyone could clearly see the drop in sales for proton, and their massive losses in their financial results.. everyone on this blog said proton is dead, and will close shop. but they are still around, and now starting to make money.
but i think slowly over that time, one cannot ignore the changes in the way the company is changing. in 2 years, i’ve never seen proton do so much in the export market as in the past 10 years before. also, they continue to come out with cars that are selling well domestically again.
there are people on this blog who continue to say things like “proton is not well received”, must be blind, as they already have over 80,000 bookings for their saga since january. and true enough, proton does face a tough time overseas.. but its only been 2 years since theyve been serious about exports.. the japanese fought like mad for more than 20 years alone in the export market before they were accepted, although they still have problems selling big in europe today. even us malaysian used to call japanese cars milo tins for a long long time. 23 years for a car company is still very young, and thats a fact.
September 10, 2008 @ 10:38 am
Proton Stim
Proton Bagus
Proton Best
Proton Estacy
Proton Boleh
Proton Proton
Proton Gajah
September 10, 2008 @ 10:54 am
I just submitted a name call “PROTON ADILAN”
September 10, 2008 @ 11:16 am
Proton GarudaSey
Proton Impala
Proton Gurkha
Proton Tanik
Proton Compos
Proton RiaRia
Proton AbukAbuk 1.6
Proton Sikalang
…………hmmm..sigh…
September 10, 2008 @ 12:11 pm
maserati said,
September 9, 2008 @ 12:20 pm
Bangang mangkuk,sebab kereta tu ada kualiti! You patut bukak Kamus Dewan(Buku Hijau tu) dan cari makna perkataan kualiti.Sebab itu kita orang tak bising,bukan mcm Proton,dahlah tiru org lain,lepas itu kualiti macam berak
BanyakMasukWorkshop said,
September 9, 2008 @ 12:43 pm
i think u re driving a maserati, dats y proton is no compete in quality..but the reality is its in ur dream only hehehhe.. Good comment
maserati,
lu guna keta apa….Tau kondem aje continental ,korea takpayah bodohkan orang la kalau continental tak payah sibuk kat sini.. kalau korean car.. tak payah belagak .Cikai2 proton pun ada 2nd value dia spare part senang cari . Korea punyer salesman cakap ape tau .. market dia sejuk beku Boleh pakai terus buang ..cekik minyak ,,spare part macam harga continental dah tu tak ada pulak kat kedai spare part ..kena order dulu tunggu bulan2 baru sampai. Belajarlah menghargai barang sendiri ..baru bole jadi bos yang baik.. kalau tak jadi lalat ajelah ..mana2 pegi cari benda busuk2 aje
September 10, 2008 @ 12:53 pm
I’m inspired by some of the crazy Japanese car names
Proton Longbox
Proton Cassidy Speedwagon
Proton Elvis Van Timewarp
Proton Sleepytime
Proton Rrrrrempit
Website is down at the moment anyway… sigh
September 10, 2008 @ 2:44 pm
alvin , i use to work in BMW ok…
u think such problem only occur in proton ?
do u expect a BMW 5-series just got deliver a few minutes and it came back with a transmission fault ?
so , QC prob is not always with proton
its everywhere…
let me ask u , how much u think it cost to produce a mold to make a car bonnet ?
u think they beat it out using hand ?
it cost millions man…
that’s the bonnet only.
u try to think its for the whole car…
don’t just because your car has fault and u blame every single proton…
my dad use to own 2 proton before hand
1 wira , which is still in good condition when we sold it away .
another 1 is a perdana 2.0 , which we use for 7 years before the gearbox finally gave up.
so u gonna blame me for being the lucky one ?
if u think u hav the money why not buy a better car ?
no one ask u to own a proton anyway…
if u hav problem with your car let proton know.
they’re really listening to our complains u know…
good luck bro.
September 10, 2008 @ 3:05 pm
Proton HSMXM (hidup segan mati tak mau)
Proton HSMPS (hidup susah mati pun susah)
Proton TM (tangkap muat)
Proton PSP3 (persatuan sampai pencen pakai proton)
September 10, 2008 @ 3:18 pm
To alvin_chan88 and (simply bashing the car even not coming out yet).
My uncle friend owned a Toyota Land Cruiser Prado. The car skidded during rainy days and turned over. He injured his head too eventhough not serious. For your infomation, the Toyota Land Cruiser comes standard with Toyota’s Star Safety System, which includes Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) and traction control (TRAC), an antilock brake system (ABS) with Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD) and BrakeAssist. On the options list, you’ll find an airbag package with regular side airbags for front occupants, along with side curtain airbags and a rollover sensor that offers chest and head protection for first- and second-row outboard passengers.
Seems like the car’s safety features also ALL FAILED!!!!
I don’t say the car not good or Toyota also made crap car. My point is not judge the car or all car models from particular manufacturer just like Proton (as you stated) just because got few cars having problems. WHAT MORE TO SAY THE CAR STILL NOT EVEN ON THE ROAD YET!!!!
So please me matured. Give more solid comments.
September 10, 2008 @ 3:21 pm
Please BE MATURE when GIVE COMMENTS. TQ
September 10, 2008 @ 4:44 pm
alvin_chan88, u r a very good example of y malaysia consumer rights is damn poor! u cant always trust anything( including manufacturer u trusted!). there is a form for u to sign b4 collection of your car! in that form have list of stuff u have to check n sign, so that it means when u collect the car, its in good condition so u signed it! u never bought anything expensive before do u? u dont even own your own business! its a damn simple principle! not to push the blame onto customer, its your job to make sure it works, its not proton push u a car, its u who buys it! so check it b4 u collect! 1 more thing, COE is 1 of the worst SC u can go! they may b big, but they arent the 1 that store lots of parts n with good service! its mutiara damansara(another HQ) tat can give u good service! there goes another good example of bad malaysian consumer practice-think its good/with lots of advertisement/good brand=good thing…its pitiful to see malaysia not just in gov level is a sore eyes, even citizen themselve r lazy bum with little to no knowledge of their surrounding…any1 agree? if u dont, look around, think deeper, rather than look at surface n follow what others said! if u continue your age old practice, u’ll only stuck in your current state without progression! change your lifestyle man, u’ll see…
September 10, 2008 @ 5:28 pm
fastcx said,
“its a damn simple principle! not to push the blame onto customer, its your job to make sure it works,”
lol you just did push the blame onto the customer! He’s buying the bloody car, if it’s also his JOB to make sure it works, then explain exactly what the QC inspectors are being paid for??
And like he said, exactly how was he supposed to check for an improperly installed driveshaft, defective power window, etc etc? you even admitted earlier that you know Proton uses low quality parts, guess that’s his fault too? This whole tidak apa/buyer’s fault attitude suits a dodgy vendor at the pasar malam but not a company with supposedly global aspirations.
Everyone knows the first batch of people to buy this mpv are going to be sort of like guinea pigs just like alvin was with his gen2, and others were with the new saga. Hopefully Proton will make QC a higher priority this time and also quickly address any problems. But no need to attack and make like it’s the buyer’s fault when it should never have made it out of the factory like that.
September 10, 2008 @ 5:59 pm
Proton Sagwa, its the consumer’s job to check before sign, i said not great quality, not low quality. i do not have tak apa attitude, as my cars did not give me any issues to tak apa for! the point is, he generalise all with few issues. inappropriate drive shaft installation will cause noise, u’ll notice it during ur collection! defective power windows? its in the check list! did u bought a car b4? still remember the form they ask u to sign when u collect the car? so now who is tak apa? n yet in the end come out n bark like stray dogs for mistake they made? i was 1 of the few that got 1st batch of neo! and i can say, 1st few batch of neo have even less issue than those after it! issues i meant r minimum annoyance!
u still dont see your own responsibility as a consumer? they did not force u to take the car if it have defect on the day u collect it, its u who signed it! huh? makes me wonder what kind of logic u apply to your life? if its not satisfactory, dont sign it! complain till they fix it! simple thing that i do all the time(not just in car purchase, if the item im about to get arent up to spec, just leave it n get them to fix it or just get another brand)!thats call consumer rights! the money is yours! i am a perfectionist, things i get will need to be tested b4 collection, i would spend 30mins to 1hour at there just to test the whole thing b4 i sign any piece of paper with my name!
u guys r just too pampered by government for too damn long! even simple purchasing knowledge also dont know? pitiful
September 10, 2008 @ 6:14 pm
Proton Sagwa said,
September 10, 2008 @ 5:28 pm
fastcx said,
“its a damn simple principle! not to push the blame onto customer, its your job to make sure it works,”
lol you just did push the blame onto the customer! He’s buying the bloody car, if it’s also his JOB to make sure it works, then explain exactly what the QC inspectors are being paid for??
And like he said, exactly how was he supposed to check for an improperly installed driveshaft, defective power window, etc etc? you even admitted earlier that you know Proton uses low quality parts, guess that’s his fault too? This whole tidak apa/buyer’s fault attitude suits a dodgy vendor at the pasar malam but not a company with supposedly global aspirations.
Everyone knows the first batch of people to buy this mpv are going to be sort of like guinea pigs just like alvin was with his gen2, and others were with the new saga. Hopefully Proton will make QC a higher priority this time and also quickly address any problems. But no need to attack and make like it’s the buyer’s fault when it should never have made it out of the factory like that.
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Proton Sagwa:
Thank you for being my back, I’ve been hentam teruk teruk and kau kau these 2 days. I know that we have a form to sign when collecting the vehicle, but problem starts when it reaches the 1st week or perhaps the 1st month? So how could I determine the fault in the 1st place? I also had mentioned that I rejected the car once when the car door couldn’t open, so did use my right as a consumer? FYI, my GEN 2 is not the 1st batch also, I bought it at April 2006. BTW, you have your facts, I certainly hope Proton can do a much better job than what they did with mine or other victims. If they can beef up their quality, manage their company, certainly Proton will be our Pride and Joy. I am not prejudice towards Proton, I liked Proton since I was young.
If I had made anyone unhappy, I felt deeply regret and I would apologize. But I will still believe that Proton is still not up to the standard yet that it can considered “Pride and Joy” for the Rakyat. I certainly hope i would see Proton prosper some day. Not just CLOSE SHOP or BANKRUPT, like this it would be a waste of G funds for over 20 years.
September 10, 2008 @ 6:44 pm
do u all really think that proton is relying on G to fund them ?
i really wouldn’t say such thing.
if G is funding proton then where did the money they earn go ?
not to the G i guess.
well , like what fastcx said.
customer seriously have their own rights to check their car before handing over.
you think technicians can check everything ?
as technician , they have a certain guidelines to check in a car before delivering.
and i don’t remember checking the driveshaft is part of the guideline.
the people who knows the car more than anyone else will be the owner.
its the same apply to everywhere.
btw , y r u bossing so much about your cars problem ?
if u got problem bring it back to them.