I feel like we’re in an Episode of X-Files or something here. From these new photos sent in by reader KK Chen it is pretty much confirmed – the Exora that wasn’t really an Exora that we checked out earlier yesterday wasn’t an effect of a ‘squashed’ image. It’s something completely different. Here you can see both a real Exora and the mysterious new prototype vehicle with a mix of Exora sheetmetal covering it side by side.
And here’s a closer look at the mysterious new prototype. Is this the upcoming Persona replacement model built on a variant of the Exora platform (and disguised with Exora sheetmetal) with a multi-link suspension instead of the Exora’s torsion beam?
The Exora’s platform is definitely capable of that, in fact it was one of the features touted during the Exora’s technical briefing when it was first launched. Or is this a completely different vehicle? Whatever it is, this is NOT some kind of ‘Exora coupe’, the Exora sheetmetal and headlamps etc are likely just a disguise.
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It looks more like a Triton Lite from the side view..Arena’s replacement?
true…i agree with u…arena replacement…
hahha, Arena.. so far P1 managed to sell how many unit of Arena?
Is the qty hit 10K unit?
FTI, Arena aka Jumbuck is very popular in Australia.
it’s confirm over than 10k unit were sell all over the world, but sorry i can tell the exect number..
above picture was not for arena replacement
but arena replacemnt still under proposal
and not focusing for local market..
major sales arena/jumbuck model was sold outside m’sia…
very economy model for light pick-up
i dont think so..the window line is quite high for something like an arena..
using multi-link suspension .. so i think it is not arena replacement ..
yeah..and the extended roof to the rear looks rather acceptable..
arena is a failed project la’…proton wont do a replacement for arena…
Tell that to them Aussies
how do you know?
do you have any prove?
how do you know?
do you have any proof?
I’m in Australia. It is not hard to see Proton Arena here. They name it Jumbuck.
APX….
looks like exora midget, is it only for the midgets?
******FUGLY******
maybe Arena replacement.. why everyone cannot accept it? arena@jumbuck got many follower at australia.. please look onto other market too.. maybe we dont want it, but other country need it
maybe its Alzora :-)
its Exo-za la :-)
JUARA replacemnt?
These pictures really looks out of proportion. Previous post looks awesome, now it just looks plain ugly.
It’s not that the proportions are out. Instead, it’s obvious that they tacked on chopped-up and resectioned Exora body panels onto the vehicles to disguise the actual features. The actual vehicles definitely won’t have that disproportionate look with broken contours.
agreed… is a chop exora use as a mule for a new model perhaps…
maybe they want a share from caldina turbo market too???
I think this might be the new Perdana. This might be a sedan cause the back looks fake.
new perdana gonna be large like camry….coz new waja have a size like lancer gt….
agree..my dad has been using perdana more than 5 years..but today all my siblings grow up already..kinda tight inside..so i prefer to drive the perdana rather than seat behind.
for your information. they new waja will be smaller than the existing waja
no laa…new waja is based on lancer gt…of cos la bigger than waja…i think ur informartion wrong laa….my info come from proton R&D staff…that car was already made n undergo some durability tests now…hahahaha :-D cool proton!!!!
no.. new waja is based on the old waja with just a few update.. lancer is a different project with 1.8 and 2.0 cc.. new persona will be totally different chassis.. new proton exora might be using turbo engine..
Exora platform not large enough for Perdana?
I doubt so… unless they plan to have the Perdana as a MPV now.
if they are using exora’s platform, it make sense to be perdana. it is not economical to venture into cladina range at the moment for Proton.
ooo…bukan distortion aa…memang diorg potong and test rupanya,,..
Happy testing to proton team
mana ko tahu!!
paul kasi tau….paul sotong teka mmg betul..,,ko jgn memain
rear side is lowered and widened…
lancer??
confirms that the previous one was correct
smack in the face who claim the pic distorted or make by other maker
agree…..
It’s a new car. Damn this is exciting. Proton sure knows how to eff our eyes with their genius camos.
Anyways, I’ve done some zippy chops to uncover the tapes. Here’s what I found.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff304/keishin9/new-proton-mule-5CS9-DEBUNK.jpg
Uncanny resemblance to Honda Odyssey.
Well. Picture source is crappy. So…
the backglass is a lil low don’t you think…
Yeah. But I was just debuniking how it’ll look if it’s a wagon-cum MPV
can u turn it into a sedan?
That’s gonna be hard. Since This isn’t actually a sedan even if the back portion is cut off. Prolly a wagon, truck at most.
so what could it be ?
new proton arena…
New proton “caldina”. Hehehe…
proton arena would be a pick-up, rite?
could it be an SUV? the intention of replacing torsion beam with mutli-link suspension may hide a potential that it is a 4WD.
BMW X6 wannabe, perhaps?
Asking for a sliding door with Exora and other big MPV’s.
Hope Proton will hear this.
And standard safety equipment for all models.
then the basher has a point to bash proton..sliding door = van rite…for my no problem la
On the other notes, they want to replace a persona-sedan model with wagon one?
maybe EXORA station-wagon (5 seater)…
looks like a touring version of new waja/lancer or persona????….looks very sleek…bt very confusing when u think of wat the product lineup is….
oh proton , ur getting good at making ppl guess…!
a completely new model wout any news? proton was getting good in making suprise (this cant be the new waja, isnt it? shaped more like a mini mpv- caldina anyone?)
looking forward on kl auto show :D
There’s no such thing as a mini-MPV. Whether you realize it or not, the Caldina’s a WAGON!
i doubt proton will ever want to display its prototype as hint to future coming models.
if this is gonna be another type of exora, i think i can briefly imagine how is the shape’s like… and honestly speaking, from what i imagined, it doesn’t look nice BUT i hope my imagination is wrong
cool.
maybe they want to do something like honda odyssey. with low profile roof line.
this is good for proton for end of year KLIM. they should make it as a 2011 model.
but proton, pls put the turbo on your campro. it is due time!
maybe a new proton SUV? I know they plan to launch one sooner or later.
Proton sure knows how to cover up their cars really well! When they were testing Exora chassis, they were using a Toyota Wish body and now this? Judging from the look of the rims and the size of the rims, I think they’re testing the chassis for the upcoming Waja Replacement Model/Perdana Replacement Model which is based on the Lancer GT platform. Or is it a Caldina version of Proton?
Hmmm. Kudos Proton!
yeahh..
Proton version of Caldina.
Turbo pleaaassseee!!!
Hopefully this will be the “little surprise” from Proton during KLIM ’10. I’m looking forward to the outcome of this project.
Or, Proton’s coming out with a Caldina-type sporty station wagon..
Very clever of Proton or whoever is making that. Put a dummy exora at the back so people would think its anothe Exora.
Shorter Exora wheelbase…Juara 2? Slightly rectangular and not square. Also, why would persona be that tall? Makes little sense.
I know wat’s that model proton going 2 launch…
Exora chassis based PROTON ARENA..or Proton Jumbuck..
those metals covering the side are giving u confusion..
Overall will looks like pickup truck, but for proton, they launch pickup car..XD
targeting sales in Thailand and Australia..maybe…
OR maybe a SUV based which looks like BMW X5..SUV coupe style..
ahaa! that could be it. coz i thought P1 target for global market.
the dimension look alike to lotus APX.
if there’s a sideview of this picture, it will give a clearer idea on the model.
anyway until its fully revealed, we only can guess.
new lineup definitely better.
i think, it is ARENA replacement model laa..pickup truck style seme like triton or hilux…
seems like a cardina-ish to me…
a caldina wannabe?….
Its a spaceship for 2012!
Pick Up????
possible arena replacement
using exora as the based-body..
lowered and widened…
a bit near to be like Toyota Caldina..
p/s : hope Proton read this.. why do proton love to make red rear lamp smaller than signal and reverse lamp..? example on Proton Waja CPS (very small rear red lamp).. Exora (rear signal lamp is bigger).. Persona Elegence (Rear red lamp kinda small)
yup, big car small lamp, small car big lamp. weird! look at savvy, got 4 red lamps each really hugh.
Wira, Brake lamp is very big and signal lamp is very small.. quite dangerous bcos we hardly can see the signal indicator when it turned on..
Using LED, as long it’s very bright is ok..
Wagon, most probably.
one’s joy comes to naught? better not…
last time p1 have announced to used exora platform for other model including commerical vehicle such as van and pickup. this could be the model?
i think mayb i would be a exora wit odyssey look…
i think mayb it would be a exora wit odyssey look…hehe
don’t compare with Odyssey or any other MPV’s.. maybe it was just coincidence…. please accept a new brilliant ideas from Proton itself…
oh, ya i donno if this is coincident or what, in the one of picture got one pickup at the right lane, overtaking or part of convoy? p1 one to sell lowered pickup for thai? less possible but no harm guessing.
that pickup truck was overtaking the convoy… you know how fast those pickups are usually driven on the highway right? :)
quite intriguing
the roof goes completely downward at second window pillar. from an angle it looks like botched design. the windows and the doors are completely weird.
but then they can always redesign the doors with lower lines to compensate the already low windows.
the front end also, i would imagine, will be not exora face. oh. very very nice.
ps-dont forget the terbo nah?
turbo la, apa terbo.
oh yah. terbo. tebo. tubo. turbo. doesnt matter
most important is.. more ooommmpphhh
righttt, its turbo, terbo got no boost lah.
at the back you mean like MINI Cooper Clubman??? because from the back of the car seems weird. hahah… just guessing.. ;)
“turbo? we thought 1.6 campro standard all malaysians love very much? see the sales, like pisang goreng cecah kicap pedas. now you don’t like aa? we don’t have any plans to produce a turbo charged Campro. You guys can turbo charge it yourselves laa..” a P1 engineer said.
p1 engineer does not know his boss statement ker? everyone in paultan know proton doing turbo campro on exora even covered on tv3 last time…… or u just make story here bro
obviously he’s just making story lor…. everyone at proton know abt the turbo engine since it has been broadcasted to the whole country…. other option:
1- He’s just making story
2- The so called p1 engineer he talked about is not even a proton employee
3- the engineer is just playing with him…
either way… he’s just making himself look stupid by saying that..
Why people keep saying it is a replacement for perdana, arena or even SUV? Come on people, from the pics you know that it is a MPV.
Fred, many ‘sin kar lan’ here. I reckon it’s more towards a Wish look-alike.
Impossible to be Arena bcos the acceptance is so low Proton would have dump the idea completely. My second bet is, if the rear disguise is taken off, it might even be a Honda Jazz type mini MPV! Paul
black dog is sin kar lan
exora just launch, another MPV? where is the economics of that?
1 more question…y the exora itself use that plate number?so, this true exora will oso different with other exora….just guessing…
the mystery one is quit nice…..i just thinking, maybe this is the killing model of alza in future…just imagine, p2 sure make new alza or alza SE….guessing the shape like the SE Myvi….than in that time, this model will out..haha….sure headache people want to buy….from far, this car looks like exora coupe.hehe….very nice job p1….hope this model will out with choices of turbo….
Hmm… not likely a ARENA replacement. A few posters noted the the rear suspension isn’t torsion bar anymore. If it is a replacement for the ARENA they would keep the Exora suspension to maximise the loading bay size.
My hunch would be the next gen Guigario designed Persona. The main things the RnD boys are working on (based on Proton’s own leaks) are the Global Small Car (EMAS) and the Persona (due in 2012).
why would it be the next gen Persona? that high car you see is a mini-MPV of some sort and the Persona is a saloon car.
Well there is rumors/insider info back then, that the new Persona would used the Exora chassis as a mule. It’s also reported that Proton will stop using Mitsu gearbox and start using Getrag 6-speed manual unit and a ZF sourced CVT gearbox. Truth in that, only Proton knew.
which insider r truly telling the truth…seem all insider given diff info to their respective fren
I second that! But the Getrag might be shelved due to cost (thats what I heard). Oh well, still long way to go.
This is actually proton’s upcoming suv/crossover, based on exora. It is not a sedan, and definitely not the Persona replacement. The final product may sport diiferent front appearance, with some changes be made to differentiate it from exora, like new grill, new bumper, etc.
It will be powered with proton’s new turbocharged engine, from the Phoenix project
“It will be powered with proton’s new turbocharged engine, from the Phoenix project”
That is a very bold statement.
hahahah…very very bold ~
this guy works for proton?
even if he does, thats very bold. keh keh
new suv?
2wd, 4wd or 2-4wd?
yeah..i call this as good news.
new class in proton to join with cr-v, vitara.
this is kinda proton hilux or proton fortuner version / mitsui pajero sport > if this true ,good job proton > boleh pakai model toyota lexus….haha
dont judge a book by its cover hehehehe…
dont judge a book by its cover hehehehe… what duplicate?
what i can assure you guys is….that is not a Persona Replacement…
dont judge a book by its cover bro…
well i can assure u that u could be very very wrong ….
It looks Caldina-ish
mitsubishi grandis,proton version?
They spent money making custom doors just to fool the public?
i’m happy that they do so
looks like SUV/Sport wagon … maybe proton’s version of Lotus APX?
no matter what, the picture show this vehicle with a word from my mind “weird”
lets wait and see for the real image from proton…
hopefully not as weird as it is. :p
Anyway my past experience will tell me that this car like wagon are hard to sell in Malaysia if it has only 5 seater.. How many cars like wagon are selling nowadays? Except in Europe which is famous as they can put more stuff behind & better weight distribution (some wagon)..
Don’t say it’s a wagon. Say it’s a mini-MPV, since people are buying Caldinas and Alzas without realizing that they’re basically wagons!
alza is simply not a wagon, but caldina is..
caldina only have 5 seat. but alza sevennnnnnnn…..
haha… anyway this new baby proton rock!!!!!!!!
alza is different, you can call it what ever you one, remember the slogan? car one moment MPV the next. combining car+MPV simply is wagon-steins
Alza ia a MPV wannabe..hence, a wagon…..hehehe…..peace Alza owners….means no harm….
caldina not so bad what selling here?
why not proton make one? with turbo!
wachhaa!!
Are you serious?
There are plenty of wagons. Caldinas sold pretty well…even at that inflated price.
The AD Resort sold very well. Volvo wagons sold very well.
I would buy a 5 seat wagon if there was more to choose from…the only one now available is the Chevy and the unfortunately out of budget Volvos
Proton should have launched the Wira wagon (since Mitsu already had that bodystyle) instead of the Arena. It would have definately done better.
All the compact MPVs with 4 swing out doors by definition are still considered wagons…only people here like to call them MPVs. To me, an MPV has always been a Multipurpose VAN…. ie. seats 7+, sliding doors….
In maly overseas markets, You can choose between a 5 seat “wagon” or a 7 seat “MPV” (case in point the current Rondo – which in fact the 3rd row are “optional extras”, even the Santa Fe, and old Mercedes and Volvo wagons)
wagon is always a 5 seater unlike MPV. go and check at wiki for wagon, estate, etc. all have 5 seat plus higher roof at the back that the purpose is for storage (or animal seat) and is theoretically the storage is the same compartment as the passenger. no separable boot storage.
Well, i cant agree that AD resort is a lot on the roads, but the problem is that the amout of selling compare to sedan are always lower & now even new AD are not brough into Malaysia already due to lower sales… Volvo V series cars is a hit in most european countries, but here not as much as those S series cars.. Hope Proton can prove that Wagon like cars can sell in Malaysia.. But 1 thing i for sure is that this car will not be cheap if it is with turbo.. Remember that new Waja Lancer is coming with it’s price tag rumoured around RM80k.. So with turbo, how much they want to sell?
if they use campro+turbo the car should be around 70-80k.
that i think .
emm…
i love wagons or estates! Livina is a wagon! avanza, innovas they are mpvs.
wiki term on wagon
A station wagon is a passenger car body style similar in terms of passengers to the sedan/saloon style but incorporating a full-size back cargo compartment (that can be further extended for a third passenger row in some cases) accessible via a fifth door (liftgate or tailgate) instead of the standard sedan trunk slot.
aiyyooo… caldina is MPV laa.. everyday i see lot of caldina on the road.. how can you say wagon was not so famous?? do some research before talking..
LOUIS ????
i really think this is a mule platform sharing with Exora new model. So yes it is a mule. The weight is the same but the final face will be different. The Exora ‘penyet’ just a modified to suit the new model criteria. Maybe it is an engine test for the new Persona upcoming for 2012.
yes, wagon type!!!
look like competitor to caldina
well i dont think this is arena replacement because arena only have two doors. this will be proton new caldina. hopefully.
Proton “Cardina” !!!!! lol i do think the shape do look similar to Cardina thou…..
ops spell wrongly Caldina
Confirm, that “squash mpv” looks like my Mitsubishi Grandis. Another courtesy of Proton to rebadge Mitsubishi cars while in the same time insulting its other siblings for doing the same thing. Call it hypocrite or idiocy. Ludah ke langit kena muka sendiri!
You work for Proton is it to confirm it’s a Grandis?
great!! you can make a “factual” speculation just based on 1 picture.. a total genius, thats who you are… the country are so proud to have this kind of people here..
is he/she millionnaire after world cup? because he/she looks so good at telling thing that people still guessing.
typical bizi-basher
ke..ludah tu terkena dkt lu…
Not only he’s a bad n baseless basher.. now also claimed he owned a grandis…. i lost count how many cars he claimed he owned last time =p
i think everytime post about proton he claim he has bla.. bla.. bla.. cars.. rich boy
hahaha…
true…
last time, he said, he had a waja, which is problematic and give him headache…
then, he bought a persona… which he also said, problematic… and saying, his salary allowed him to buy Proton cars…
suddenly, he has a Grandis!!! wow.. that about 3 fold of proton car price…
surely a freakin liar…
Paul, i’ve told those ppl here. it’s a sedan in disguise by Exora body. Stevie Wonder also can spot it. the proportion completely ridiculous to be a MPV or CLS-wannabe. it’s no doubt new sedan.
Paul, do u have wheelbase comparison between the mule with real exora??
This car look like Malaysia caldina, from the behind only…
i love it! exora CC! hahaha. it’s definitely intriguing and downright interesting. i just hope it looks better with all those covers taken off…
its look like crossover… its seem like tyre spare hanger at rear bonnet..
yeah, a cross between MPV and SUV. coupe SUV for the luxury segment.
something like toyota caldina turbo?
Could be an SUV/crossover. But then, the tyres are too small for a crossover.
disguise is important during prototypes reliability testings. if put big tyres of course people know its an SUV.
kereta juga mpv…cam alza…hehehe…
It looks like Mitsubishi Grandis. Cross reference the pictures with the Mitsubishi Motors website.
Looks like Proton is launching another larger MPV. This one is very interesting.
so ‘potong’ is really doing a potong job here.. hehehe.. nicely done to disguise the real car from public.. let the guessing game begin.. it could be a new perdana inside.
definitely not arena replacement seems it is widened and lowered.if they want to make arena,they dont have to lowered the roofline..
Proton just realized the Exora is too tall to compete with other likes i.e Stream n Wish, so they decided to chop off the roof a bit to make it low and sleek….ekekeke
Way the go Proton.
Good Luck
Why getting excited over nothing? Limited Editions , Anniversary Edition , Last Edition,
and what not.
Look at Honda ,and others going to churn out semi electric and fully vehicles vehicles in 2012 and thats not too far away .
Poor My car buyers are you going to sign your life away 9 years financing and regret ?
may i
errr..SUV mayb?
Seems to be same class vehicle with Wish, but the back seems to be too low……wonder how is the interior space height for the back.
1. Firstly, I want to congrate the proton team bcz you hv given a big question to the people who always involve in auto news.
2. Guys, this is absolutelty not an exora replacement. exora is a new model, how can the proton want to replace it. even, proton claims that exora is the best mpv that they have built.
3. This is not an engine test or test mule bcz from the camouflaged, it is a new car model. it is not a caldina, a wish or whatever.
4.This is a new model from proton where it used sharing platform from exora. This is definitely not a sedan or even an arena /jumback replacement model.
5.I think this a copy of caldina. It is a SPORT WAGON car. will used 1.6 cps turbo, with sport spec like the satria lotus like high spec braking system disc, bucket seat, etc.
6. There are only two row seats and the back one is empty for luggage.
7. However, to the proton team. If you set this car to production, please make it look like a sporty wagon car. no more childish dashboard, old fashion steering, bad look headlamps and the bodoh plastic finishing.
8. again for proton, don’t really care to reduce the price with junkies finishing. the people will buy ur car only if they think that car is superb. no matter how much the need to pay.
Must have a 5 speed auto gearbox at least!!!
kalu betulla mcm ni, i will look handsome inside the car!
i hope 6 speed MT..
7 speed lah…
yess.. i also dont matter too pay more if the car is better..
few condition if they (proton) want to sell a 100k price car..
1. no more bodoh-plastic finishing
2. better quality car(no more broken power window like my friend perdana, must open the door to pay use TnG)
3. higher engine capacity – 1.8 or 2.0..
4. all car must have ABS and SRS airbag (since proton do class like base,medium and high. base dont have ABS but medium and premium have ABS)
5. bigger rims(malaysian love big rims)
cannot think more, can anyone add what suitable??
Passenger airbags have the option to be turned on/off?
i think this one is a new proton suv based on exora platform.
i’ve heard that the proton msx project is still under going…..
and yet i’ve heard this new model is more likely lexus rx….
look like ute, penetrate the aussie market as proton s16 done handsomely
This is not a suv/crossover vehicle as we currently don’t have anything like dat planned. This is a mule for a new model. The rear end is ‘different’ because the new model’s rear end is different! The engine for this is also ‘different’. Basically, we use this mule to test the powertrain capability, weight and chasis parts!
Cheers!
Tengkiu….
haha.. si-fu ciplak!
tok sah caya nih…
sifu is back! yeah! do tell more ya
Perdana kot?
aye aye sifu
1. the picture is mule for testing new engine (hopefully new transmission as well)
2. ignore the rear end in the picture (but maybe the front end and mid-body are real ?)
3. not suv/crossover (haiyaa… was hoping it was the apx), so it could be a sedan / wagon / mpv / pick-up or whatever
yup rite.. this is just the mule car.. don’t bother the outside look because it will be 100% diff with the actual design. this mule car just for testing the powertrain with the chassis that have a same weight of the actual design… peace!
Long time didn’t hear from si-fu. any other news from P1 that can be shared with us.
Salam..
Paul,
can u verified this nick name “Si-Fu” and “si-fu” is the same person ?
I’ve been google your blog and I realized that the “original” si-fu is “si-fu”, not “Si-Fu”
We don’t want to get wrong point of view from the clone….
it does look like a pick up truck,if you throw away the boot and the tapes :D
,based on my opinion la.
will be ..just like CALDINA
In view of the recent news about the upcoming Persona replacement, this is probably it. They’ve just covered up the sedan to look like an MPV. Here’s a crude Photoshop to show it can be a sedan:
http://www.imgplace.com/viewimg13/8624/31protoncity.jpg
Lol just ‘shopped on the first pic I could find which matched the angle.
good info. ya maybe its a disguised sedan
Don’t understand why pple keep comment that this is an upcoming Proton Caldina
I don’t think Proton is that stupid to “mould” a Caldina-type car, instead by just these pics make most of the pple here stupid enough to believe that it’s a “Prodina”, and this is really what Proton expect you stupid people will react to.
that’s what i commented. proton use the mock-up body to disguise the actual vehicle underneath.. but i got all thumbs down for my comment. you all tak pandai baca ke?
IMO its not that reason you get thumbs down, maybe the word ‘potong’ you’ve used have mocked the P1 supporters.
this one i agree.. lol.. proton fans jgn marah!
coz u know, proton fanboys are abit thin-skinned, comment abit, criticise abit will AMOK 1. lol!
Somehow, it looks like a pick up truck tho. That’s just my opinion.
wait..
4 door neO?
More sportier Exora. Currently the Exora looks more like Totoya Innova. Boxy type at rear. This prototype looks more like Honda Stream RSZ? Hahaha…
You can see from B pillar the roof section has been lowered down till the end. Anyway, this is just a prototype, the end product could be totally different.
Cheers
ambo tengok Exora dah patah pinggang…5 seater kot. Mace Caldina…
I think we all can agree we need Theophilus Chin expertise here!
SuperTheo to the drawing board! : D
since p1 is about to introduce the turbo version of exora, hopefully it will be slightly different look than current exora and thus i hopping this will be the turbo exora.
so out of shape…..
i think that is the proton suv.. or new waja..
http://paultan.org/photo/index.php?album=Youngman-Europestar-Lotus-L5&image=03.jpg
that’s the gen2 / gen2 sedan rebadged for china la.
an insider told me.. New Persona will be using Exora Platform.
previous article someone said his insider said its exora and today other insider said persona……does it mean both insider cheat the person who sent the articles? i bet another insider will said it waja to commenter in this blog..
“my insider” said that this will be the new Iswara Aeroback :D
hahaha.. funny la when some ppl here use the word “insider” to stress their idea.
My inside insider is still inside doing insiding stuff.
or maybe both people just talk and say they have insider but it cheat.. who know?? if like that i also can say i have a insider, and this is new gen-2..
hahaha..
This car looks like…
a) a wagon, but the whole design doesn’t reflects a wagon type car with flat/even roofline like the AD RESORT
b) SUV crossover, but front looks like a sedan.
c) small size MPV, but the rear is low
d) a SUV, but its too low with small size tyres
my guess it may be in the same category as Caldina. AND whats the EXORA doing at the back there following? What are they testing on now for the Exora. They already had 3 variants of EXORA. This is a “FRINGE” file case, very mysterious.
This time I guess, Proton is REALLY giving us the CHILLS!
They’re escorting the 1st car obviously….
looks like a twin-cab pickup to me.
too wasted developing this new model. proton is lack of small mpv segment. why cant they consider the segment?
i hope this will be a wagon!
It’s look like a wagon imho, perharps, caldina version.
A wagon or something?
It’s really obvious that proton are cutting the back portion from Exora, lowered it, weld it to caldina chasis and side member (the doors really similiar to caldina) and put the front of the exora as well… my guess is that they’re planning a new model or exora variant of sport mpv/wagon…put in the turbo, walla!! they should do this kind of activity more…copying is a good thing as long as you can kaizen (improve) from what you copy, not making it lousier.
Is proton seriously developing the APX prototype from Lotus? Will this be a new family wagon?
Man this is interesting.
maybe it’s a SUV.
Its design looks much better than exora when it is finished. I am really doubt that in will be showed in KLIM unless they really want to push it for production.
it can be shown in klim…as future model or another concept whatever ..who knows rite..just like emas
I think it looks a bit like the Lotus APX design concept (2006) in terms of platform and proportion. Hey, maybe its just me. Just have a look here: http://www.autoblog.com/2006/02/24/lotus-apx-concept-unveiled/
second that!
Proton should come with better design. For Malaysian people, quality or not come with nomber 3 or 4. Yang penting cantik mata memandang. Look at myvi. People still buy although handling is worse. Don’t care tiru macam grandis ke ape ke….those bashers nak kasi jahanam our industry.
new car in new segment..nice work
i think they let us compare this new model to an Exora after the first picture release………how exciting………very2 promising……..this can sell…..definitely……
Check previous link on persona R http://paultan.org/2009/04/16/proton-exora-platform-to-spawn-new-models/
cmon la proton, if you are going to build a ‘caldina’ in your own version, why didnt they just build one in the first place?
sorry, I don’t understand what you are talking about…
we still don’t know yet..it could be sedan..next exora..it could be anything..u can see it clearly..it masked all around..remember..it base on Exora platform..just wait and see..btw..i like the way car maker masked their tested car..very mysterious..hehe..
wah..tak paham la..apa lu cakap..idea lu lagi bagus ka?
bodo, tak phm bahasa.
hahahahaha! your comment made my day! *thumbs down to you* :D
In hindsight, that ‘s a real flattened Exora…….Look like a midway house between an MPV and sedan/hatchback.
LOL…now it bring us back to the Alza slogan…..
or it’s a reaction from the criticism of the fat end of Exora haha…
At least it’s more interesting than the Persona & Savvy revision :)
maybe pesona hatchback..???
maybe a exora hybrid
Persona Sportsback la. Hatchback is Gen2.
pesona hatchback is Gen2. everybody knows this fact.
myvi killer?
proton caldina….pergghhh
Very interesting. It seems to be a ‘sleeker’ version of the Exora.. can’t tell from the pics if the wheelbase is the same as the Exora’s but the roofline’s definitely lower. Let’s assume its weight is lighter than the Exora and this could mean a new car that has a reasonably good power-to-weight ratio if it uses the 1.6 litre Campro CPS engine. I don’t race cars, but I’d still like to have at least a 1.8 litre engine for a car of this size. Can’t wait to see how this one turns out!
maybe 1st station wagon proton
Proton ‘WISH’… or…
Proton ‘Stream’…
potong steam?
It’s a premium, stylish MPV. Enough said :)
This should be proton’s upcoming SUV
I said Paul knew what is Proton doing with this…Anyway Paul seems pretty close with Proton, and heck how he ever find out about this picture ? And he seem always manage to spot every time proton doing some test, so he claimed this picture was send to him by someone else.
But if he know, then he must be working closely with Proton to create the buzz but in the same time needed to remain silent…Tight Lip…In exchange, he will be among the first who able to reveal the final product….
Yes, i figure out a conspiracy….muhahahah….
Anyhow, this really stir a hype…everybody seem jumping upside down with excitement…very minimal negative comment…So Proton, or Paul please tell this to Proton…we are putting lots of hope…dont make it a lost hope….
All the best Proton, perhaps time to upgrade my Gen2…hehehe
Hahaha I wish. A group of journalists already saw a clay model of a certain car last week but we were left out.
kesiann…hehe… :P
Heheheh… or it could be that they reserved it so that it (Proton) can shows you the actual thing! : D
ya ka Paul….must be the confidentiality agreement…wakakakakak….
But Paul…really what you think of it? Really a new car?
ahaaa! then i know what model is it..gotcha paul!!
Well,
I don’t know what car it is and I prefer to wait and see rather than speculate.
But then, surely, Proton put a lot of effort to disguise it. It must be ‘big’. And, I hope, no insider ‘leaks’ them to public (Shame on you, really!). Just let the public crack their brain, pull their hairs, whatever.
Anyway, we all know that Proton will introduce 3 new models, Waja Replacement, Persona Replacement and Turbocharged Exora. So, this test mule definitely one of those. End of story, ta-ta!
A Fringe case.
it seems that Proton will launch an Exora Merdeka Edition soon….trust me dude…
Its just another Exora with a revised behind OK. I don’t understand all the excitement.
Same 1.6 Campro 4 Speed AT – Malaysia’s Favourite!
Other prototypes to get you guys even more excited teruja!
Exora J (Juara replacement model) – shorter wheel base, added height with 1.2L Renault engine
Exora 1Malaysia – Merdeka edition
Exora PS (pickup truck version – single cab)
Exora PD (pickup truck version – double cab)
Exora Coupe (two door version)
Exora Chancellor (2.0L V6 longer wheel base)
Exora Neo (hot 2 door turbo charged hatch for the young at heart)
Exora Emas (hybrid based on original platform)
Exora PS Emas(pickup truck single cab hybrid)
Exora PD Emas (pickup truck double cab hybrid)
Exora Coupe Emas (two door hybrid)
Exora Chancellor Emas (longer wheel base hybrid)
Exora Neo Emas (hot hatch for the environmentalists)
I don’t think P1 will follow the way P2 sell their cars.
If , and I mean IF P1 still want to do , sure P1 will be bashed kaw-kaw
p2 follow toyta way, toyota design the car anyway. P2 rebatch only. hahaha, p1 not relevant
you tak ada kerja ke? imaginasi tinggi sangat… kesian..
Proton volvo V50 wannabe?
More like Nissan Grand Livina which has lower height. So, it should be MPV type,right?
I believe thats their intention, to confuse us whether its a car or its a MPV.
The car use multilink suspension at the back, so by refering to http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4108/exoraplatformlarge.jpg,
it is probably a car.
The roofline looks suspiciously like the Lotus APX concept. They really did a great job of masking the back. It can be a sedan, wagon, or a crossover.
every topic related to proton will get big number of response..
deep in our hearts, we love proton rite?
we really do..hahahahh
yes, at least I do.
me too… despite countless cosmetic problems with the older models, the newer ones look and feel more solid now and rarely u see proton cars breaking down at road sides rite and they still got the best handling ever, thumbs up for that ;)
pls pls pls. have an engine power upgrade for this. very sick and tired of 1.6…
like old dog huh… zZz…
world trend now 1.0, 1.3 and 1.5 or in that range that r very efficient n powerful
campro 1.6 is neither efficient or powerful if not why so many ppl asking out loud for an engine upgrade. even my livina some argue a smaller car has a 1.8L engine. as seen in the world engine awards, the trend is ACTUALLY towards small displacement force inducted engine that is turbo or supercharged.
This trully a kereta potong, sure fail Puspakom.
Can’t you see the butt is fitted downward? The fuel filler flap is not leveled, and the reflections on the quarter panel is not leveled with the front.
Next time should rear end this mule vehicles then when he stops you can see what car it is.
dude..just wait till the final product la..still early to comment about those detail
its a damn CAMOUFLAGED TEST MULE lah you stupid. also, test mules/prototypes don’t need to pass puspakom.
Dear dumbass, isn’t the whole idea behind compulsory Puspakom checks to get rid of unworthy vehicles aka potong cars.
So why is this cut n weld unit on the road?
If it is a sedan, why must they waste time n money trying to fool the people with this disguise. Who give’s a damn if its a sedan? How would your life have changed if the mule above was in sedan form. Would the end product be of better value? Would it be better built? NO! It’s a Proton.
Built with the cheapest materials, produced by the lowest bidders. Sold to uneducated people for high prices. These uneducated people then complain that their salary is too low, when they take 9 year loans to pay for garbage. What they fail to realise is that after 9 years they have to start all over again for the next garbage – those are the rare lucky ones, since most Protons start failing after 3 years. Or the occupants in the vehicle dies in a minor crash.
This is what Proton does with tax payers’ money – cut pieces from different vehicles and join them up and put the unsafe vehicles on the road. I bet 80% of yall don’t even pay taxes. <RM2500 hahahaha. Lowlifes and their Potong. 9 year loan to pay for trash.
Clearly you know nuts about car development. No VTA – No registration. Thats why they running on trade plates. It might be a tank develop for MinDef, who knows?
Please read/think before you speak man. This is just mule/test vehicle. Faham?
Stop calling people d*****s, when you acting like one.
Proton is our pride. Do you know only a few country develop their own car?
We want to know what they are developing. they produce good looking car and reliable engine and its affordable, at least for me.
Developing a car is not like building lego. We need to test many thing. Thats why they are on the road. However, they will put camouflage so that people dont know what car is it. They are keen enough to allow us to take picture and even give comparison to the current car lineup (exora), to give us a clue.
sometimes u just need to leave ignorant person alone in their world. it is really pointless to reason with them… it’s like talking to the wall…
he obviously has no idea whatsoever about development process of a car and what is needed / required by regulations….
looking down or generalised ppl who use proton cars as poor already show what kind of person he is…. no need to reason or respond to his inability to think correctly and respect other ppl…
his ignorance will lead him to his own downfall… sooner or later…
bro, orang pandai macam ini orang kita jangan follow, kalau kita follow sure one we’ll be like him….
haha…
you are talking about yourself isnt it?
do u know its a test car?do u know whether it was testing the engine or suspension or anything else?how can u judge with only the taped up car on a photo??please dont comment like this again in future..
if it’s not a wagon like alza, it must be an suv like apx
alza bkn wagon lah.. balik stdy dulu.. huh..
WHO CARES..!!!!!!
then why bother to give a comment…. zZz….
It seems that you do. Anyway Good Luck for the coming season under Woy Hodgson!
The 2.0 Turbo version
EXORA penyett kott
It is a mule car for Iguana project. Heard it somewhere in the internet
Iguana project…lol
Good name to give PROTON IGUANA
Every time at any post of the regarding proton car here at paultan must be fast big respond from ppl. Everyone is really interested with proton development.
Now everyone making assumptions regarding this pictures.. So what if you guys are wrong? Maybe this is the upcoming Proton Persona replacement. I’m saying this because we already have our new pride MPV which is Proton Exora and its still NEW in the market. Do you think this is Proton Exora replacement? Think again, what about our dealers here? Do you think about them? If the buyers know this is upcoming MPV’s, for what reason ‘rakyat’ going to buy the previous Exora if they knew this picture is upcoming Exora replacement? Then Proton will announce to all their dealers to make a clearance of their stock because Proton going to lunch new Exora. Bankrupt laa our dealer.. I don’t think so.. My evaluation; maybe this is the PROJECT PHOENIX.. Who know’s right?
u are right bro, only idiots will talk about Exora replacement.
Macam kereta kat Thailand aje aku tengok.
it’s look like chery eastar?
an exora cross tourer??
like those bmw x6, honda accord cross tourer cars…
even in its mule form… its kinda cool looking
Guys,
internal news from my friend working in Proton Development division saying that this new Proton (still no name yet) Prototype is for preparing to appear in the upcoming KL Motoshow 2010. So just stay tuned !
for that i think an SUV from exora platform… i already knew la….
can trust ka….so many insider
Just nice for a coffin…
i think this is new proton class. might be station wagon. who knows
Wow any proton related news will make hundreds of comment! Exora turbo, Persona R ~ so much opinion, but I agree more to one who suggest it might be Proton APX, I make some cutout from original image and put side by side with Proton APX ~ what would you think? here is the image
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/1084/compare.jpg
i agree with u..
somehow it looks so called the apx
but diff is..the back profile..
maybe proton wants to make it diff than the apx concept ones..
i love this unidentified proton! huhu
perbandingan yg bagus! good job…ketara perbezaan diantara kedua2 model nihh’ soon p1 will lunching this model..tunggu ja laaa’
thanks for the image. with the low roof (it will not be a 7 seater), with the alloy rims (it will not be a proton arena replacement nor a suv). the rear end is a dummy as it is not aligned with the front and middle body. will be really nice if it is like the apx. if it really is like the apx, then no need to do the waja lancer lah …
i think this is Emas for mass produce project but still use exora body as they are testing the persona chasis…the body itself not yet discovered…haha….
I agree with the guy that says it looks like the Lotus APX Crossover. =D I hope it is cuz that car was shiny. Please keep the interior that APX had.
the front shape look like murano……proton suv maybe?
Proton just got very interesting… you have the hype now, but please don’t be a huge dissapointing buzzkill when the real thing comes out!
alza rival? caldina quite famous among ppl but some stepback because lack of spare parts. maybe proton want to fill this gap?
5+2 seat configuration maybe. but Proton s hould not market it as 7 seater. if lot later ppl who dont understand 5+2 will bash on how uncomfortable it is to seat at the +2 site.
Arena replacement
Made-in-Malaysia stationwagon? Hmm….
i wanna give a code name..ermm EXORA APX mayb;)
Just a reminder http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4108/exoraplatformlarge.jpg
oh… light commercial? hmmm… still doesnt look it tho… the roofline really looks like the APX…
No, look at the third one. the sedan one?
This look like a Mazda to me!
it’s persona replacement…definitely not another mpv or new suv..it was disguised under exora’s skin to cheat the public hehe…gooood
should be a commercial vehicle. using exora platform, they are moving in the right way, reduce cost and more models to offer.
another info from insider..
Persona replacement. Engine 1.6 turbo. 155HP with 240NM torque.
new car replace what?
is there any more insider…….
Anyway, Proton until now still cannot utilize it manufacturing line… see this link…
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/business/article/rising-sales-push-2010-vehicle-output-except-for-proton/
outdated
proton invested heavily during Tg.Mahaleel. it’s underutilize buat the demand is ther and keeping stronger.
Could be proton wagon…a very popular kind of transport with Malaysians but nowadays mostly served only by the Germans.
Maybe Proton should name it Gen2/Waja Shooting Brake…with turbos, 18″ wheels, brembos, skirtings…baru la gempak sikit!
i reckon it might be the replacement for the long forgotten Proton Arena/Jumbuck. what i see from the picture is that everything behind the B pillar looks suspiciously flimsy. i might be wrong.
but i do agree with mystvearn. this is partly for publicity since there’s an exora following. again i might be wrong cause proton might simply be taking data from similar platform on a same running condition…. btw, never seen such enthusiasm in a proton spyshot. more than 200 comment in a day!
kalo harga sampai 100k ko nak bli ker???
aku x kisah kalau kualiti bagus.. 200k pun aku beli kalau kualiti bagus..
No lah~ 60k to 75k kill exora sell~
Proton, good marketing strategy. I think you nailed to create excitement and trigger interest towards the audience. This will definitely capture the yuppies market whom considering for low roofline MPV. Goodluck, btw, I’m anxiously waiting for Persona R and Emas!
Hey Paul,
what do u think this car will be? An SUV or Crossover?? ==”
(.Im asking Paul the octopus)..
HEIL PAUL!!!
I wonder if Paul can do more… put 4 boxes with snack: 1 with “Proton SUV”, 1 with “Proton Exora turbo”, 1 with “Proton Arena R” and 1 with “Proton Persona R”
I dare to bet the one Paul picks is the mule above :D
that paul already retired from making any prediction :)
football prediction that is……not auto industries…hehe
and he predicted for home country germany :D
It looks like a subcompact, midsize MPV wagon ….Proton trying their luck to enter the Toyota Wish & Caldina market as it is very popular in bolehland but if they can put in their junk style of designing and cps campro engine with option for turbo, cheap plastic and horrible parts inside, keep the cost down and price it just around the persona level….then you have Proton Junk ..NEW MPV !! Very sure its gonna be a junk and a coffin car when it comes out …looks on the other hand might be good, but same old Proton…… quality, performance and safety will suck big time and again dozens of our rakyat will burn their money for another junk. Of coz if Proton proves me wrong this time then maybe …just maybe might be a glimmer of hope for Proton to survive but am almost certain its gonna be a huge disappointment. So let’s wait for KLIMS 2010 !!
Proton dont owe u anything….hehe
are u know anything about automotive…. i think you need to read more about that … dont put finger into something that you dont know…”:CLEVER”!!
Good predictions. Can u predict how much salary I have in a month? Foolish statements from a third world boyish man.
biG looser of 2010…stUPid basher…who are u proton to prove…u are just a IDIoT jacK-ass talking crap..
guys, just see his name, DK Boss.. (Donkey Kong BOSS).. then we can wonder why he made such a wonderfool comments…
Hmm nampaknya bukan Mitsubishi Grandis tapi interesting! Proton tengah buat wagon kah? menarik juga tu sebab local car belum ada wagon type.
New Proton’s SUV or Pick-up car to replace ARENA…? But it is a good news also!!!!
But very sad lah reading Proton news for today
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/business/article/rising-sales-push-2010-vehicle-output-except-for-proton/
Proton is bad for health. Seriously!
the headline is misleading…
in the report, what Aishah was saying was that all other manufacturer was producing above production capacity except Proton, which has 50% excess capacity.
Capacity does not translate to production volume.
Shah Alam plant has roughly 250k annual production capacity. Tanjung malim was designed for 1 million annual capacity, but currently at 150k annual production capacity.
in comparison: honda melaka production capacity is only 20k per year.
proton at 50% capacity = (250+150)/2 = 200k per year.
honda at 200% capacity = 40k per year.
.
Exactly! The article’s comparing apples with oranges again. Two plants versus one of coursela look like low capacity!
please lah!! proton have 2 factory, if they use 1 factory they should be able to combined and increase the productions…
“”Aishah also revealed that a UMW Toyota Motor subsidiary, Assembly Services, was operating at 215 per cent production capacity, Honda at 202 per cent, Tan Chong Motors at 143 per cent, “”
what is is the percentage? you have factoryu churning more output than designed?? becareful with quality…
ppl loves to give thumb down!!!
people love to giv people who giv dumb comment..and cause long scroll
here is another thumb down for u hehe :D
I think Its An Exora Station Wagon Model …. Great Progress , By The Way Is Proton About to Replace The Perdana Model ………… It has Been Very Long since They’ve Come Up With A New Model ….
why do you have all your words starting with a capital letter?
looks misterious…we can’t guess anything…as this prototype carries multiple possibilites..
1)a suv as it looks taller than a exora
2)a pickup truck as the rear part looks so
3)or a special version to the exora line up such as the long wheelbase perdana v6
but the car looks more like an suv with mpv carrying capabilities……..
COOL!
proton exorena, the arena replacement.
last time they using toyota wish body & chasis to build the exora…
this time they using exora body & chasis to build………………??
toyota wish! hahahaha.. kidding.
nice joke bro..!!
“my insider” said this is the new Proton Iswara Aeroback :D
“my insider” said this is the new Proton Wira Se…hehehe
“my insider” said this is the new Proton Tapai SE..lalal~~
more my insider
my insideer says proton helping his brother to testing new 1.5 engine
Finally , proton apx SUV is here . a car worth waiting for till KLIMS2010 !
book your tickets & start your countdown now. I’m loving it !!
dengar2 proton indonesia nk launching model baru 1 ogos nie…
so rasenyer sblm launching sane sure proton wat pelancaran di malaysia..
kete nie kot yg proton nk launching..
looks like proton wagon..
whatever people said-good or bad, truth or rumors – this is the ‘true’ automotive R&D.
I think this will be the new Proton Arena replacement mode because I heard diorg nak keluar new model of Proton Arena.Kereta Arena not a fail project because it laku at Australia.Only in Malaysia it x laku
laku di australia…but how many models really sells there…Malaysia is a back bone market for proton…we a subsiding for foreign market coz proton in foreign world is cheaper than local market…if arena sold 5000 unit at australia and sold less than 10000 in local market…u cant says Arena laku!!
Itu MO biasa semua company kete pe. Toyota, Honda, KIA semuanya buat macam tu nak dapatkan market share. Plus jgn lupa dari segi tax. Ingat Proton tak kena tax ke jual kereta kat Malaysia? Jgnlah compare dengan Saudi Arabia yang xde tax, memangla!
ii think just like Mit RVR like design
the hundreds comments shows that, the readers are trying to show they know cars and proton better than others…
hoho…
BTW, why cant just think of good possibility out of this?
Maybe it will become a model that will boost proton image again…
so wat about you? wat are u talking about?
I think maybe its the Waja Replacement Model Hatchback version? Since Waja replacement is around the corner, this could be the hatchback version
I think they just want to test the drag force on the car which might produce some input to the persona replacement model.
See the lower part part at the back. It resembles the sedan rather than MPV.
juling arr nak bace….
The heavily camo must be a sedan— not Mitsu sourced-Waja but Persona MK2. We can see the disproportionate rear design very unlikely to suggest the sport wagon.
nie proton ambik keta toyota caldina pastu ubahsuai, korang semua stuju ke dgn pandangan aku
It’s arena replacement…
maybe it’s a SUV.
proton “RAV4”?
Hi guys! IT’S PHOENIX TURBOCHARGED. 1.8 AND 2.0 – 6 SPEED. GO PROTON!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pheonix Project on the road?
My son, don’t need to use all the titles lah.
Keep that for …..
:mrgreen:
embarassing u ka Pak Abu…haha
he must be a child…plaase dont mind..
actually this pic was taken a long time ago i thought when exora on testing
but we not aware of the car..but suddenly this old photo come again…some
ppl say if there a no third row exora it maybe be the new persona in preparing
ppl say not mine
YB. Ir…you miss one more award..’Sir’-award by Pupua New Guinea king. hi2
Wagon look…or another people say “Kereta juga MPV” etc
does it some sort of marketing hype? previously we got some spyshot photo of this so called-new exora. people keep saying that the photo were skewed resulting incorrect proportion. then it come out at paultan, then the proton team reading it, “haiyaa… it’s a new model la, not exora… why r u so blind?… now u go out again with that thing, this time, bring exora follow at the back, so people can make comparison, go around the highway until u see someone is taking pictures…” just to create the awareness that a new exiting model coming so people who had alza in their mind can hold n wait for this model before making decision.
Have you consider working with the CIA? I think there’s a vacancy there. Or worse case scenario… u can always apply for gossip reporter.
I think azlanaziz is right. Actually Proton got no new model but this is just a ruse to create impression of one and hold back potential buyers from commiting on other brands/models. Not a bad idea. Perodua should now go dress up an old kancil and have the Alza following it as they both drive up and down NSE.
huh? why would Proton create a false hype? In the end it’ll just look bad on them if they dont have anything and potential buyers would go away from Proton. That i can almost assure is not the case.
That’s just silly because they’re going to end up preventing sales of their own brand if people are “waiting for something new”. Secondly, if there’s nothing new coming out (which there is) but let’s assume there isn’t and it was all a ruse…it would end badly for Proton and trust in the company would fall. No company would risk their reputation like that just to stop a few hundred or thousand sales of a certain product by their rival company.
lol…
itu namanya bisnes
Th the New Perdana
this is going to compete with audi rs6..
hauzitupi come-on… , proton dont make sthing stupid yet
Whatever it is just hope it comes with new engine and gearbox.
this new proton is based on toyota caldina… my friend on R&D told that they “potong” 1 caldina & developed the new proton based on it… but cannot 100% follow la… because can get summons maa…
ur fren is 5 or 6 insider…all diff info..which 1 is betul?
nope, you should never trust that friend of yours anymore
mana ada potong caldina…. show me the proof..
timing coincide with this article though
SHAH ALAM, July 15 — Proton Holdings Bhd expects to launch a new sedan model before the end of this year to replace the Waja.
Group managing director Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir said production of the new model would be undertaken at its plant in Shah Alam.
“All the preparations have been done. We hope to launch it in the last quarter of this year,” he told reporters after launching the improved Exora model here today.
“We are working with other original equipment manufacturers,” he said.
According to market talks, the new model will display a copy of version Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0 GT but use the engine with a capacity of slightly smaller 1.8-litre.
It is believed that the Mitsubishi feature in Proton is the result of development engineering cooperation between Proton and Mitsubishi Motors Corporation, which is also a shareholder.
yup…someone has spotted the lancer came out from proton factory..Mitsubishi has found that they cant match Honda civic hot selling model..so..they let proton assemble it with low cost..so it can sell at low price and sell more..maybe..haha
wrong..
Mitshubishi no longer a shareholder… exited long time ago…
http://www.proton.com/about_proton/investor_relations/shareholdings_statistics.php
p/s some American pension plan also bought Proton shares..
.
wei….they end it long ago, the re do it again after VW exit daa…the news is in this blog somewhere..find yourself…hehehhe
wrong!.
Mitsu collaboration YES..
Mitsu shareholding.. NO..
as I had put up there, the annual list of shareholders does not have “mitsubishi” in it.
bgus2, tiap2 tahun kluar 2 model baru
pasni jenuh ar nak memilih kete ape nk beli
From the shape, it looks like something similar to BMW X6 or Harrier; the tracks seem wider than Exora. The sideview doesn’t look like Exora (after B-pillar). If Proton can produce an SUV at RM90 000 (top spec) …..
disguise a sedan as a mpv/suv/wagon or all of it. but arent they a bit overboard on the rear?
probably a dead give away if anyone sees that. and have it moving together with exora…
Any of you remember how Proton was testing the 1.6 campro on the toyota wish before the Exora was launch? perhaps this is in fact Proton testing their new drivetrain and engine on another jap car just to see if it works well enough…
maybe used this particular jap car because chassis/platform have similar characteristics to their waja replacement model…
food for thought…
then no need to disguise until it is too obvious and mysterious.
Similar case to those who mod their engine, if they dont want to mess up with authorithy, (in this case paparazzi) they just make their car look as standard as possible.
This is the dupilcate version or toyata caldina.
The shape reminds me of APX…Dont you remember? And come on. When did proton made up some disguised cars and never let it out of the factory? that is a bull.
Proton Scorpene MPV …tagline Proton guarantee our new MPV will stay afloat without sinking :) Maintenance Free upon delivery :p
Read this article about Proton people …..
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/business/article/rising-sales-push-2010-vehicle-output-except-for-proton/
Know why Proton output is low? It’s spread over two factories! Whereas every other assemblers have only 1 factory. That’s a very simple equation yet nobody realize it?
Typical of basher or malaysia generally… just looking at one particular spot rather than the whole picture…. sigh…
Why so proud with that malaysianinsider info?
Any more pics of this mule to share? Can’t wait to uncover the secret behind…
design like new nissan grand livina??hope proton can sell cheaper, n plzz dont cheat us again…
erm..maybe this exora la…unveil this 1st with phoenix engine then if
their sales are encouraging in AUS then br jual kt sini plak normal normal exora with turbo…
just my centlah
looks like a photoshop joke :D
Maybe Exora hybrid… the shape just look like Toyota Prius..or maybe next generation of Proton MPV..hmmm…
It is not ugly, but its weird… hmm.. it looks like Exora Cross? or Exora country edition? because, the profile looks a little bit high… and try to imagine, with the Cross bodykit, it will look awesome… it does look wide though…
maybe a turbo 1.6 campro or 1.8 or 2.0 mitsubishi engine….with CVT gearbox
dear all paultan readers,
i just confirmed by my cousin who work to proton R&D. that model is the persona tyre R. bring us to the campro turbo.
this model will develope start on this oktober 2010. at Tg.Malim plant.
this model cutting goes to something like caldina. then for those are waiting for the caldina but cannot afford, you , i should wait for this.
and i will wait for this..
welldone proton..
my cousin said persona type R. but i think its more going to exora turbo. i think exora turbo its more correct.
and this is what we call mystery. but the others is confirmed.
i cant wait for this..
Persona type R? You do know Type R belongs to Honda right?
pls help to ask ur cousin, i really wanna know if
persona R = persona replacement 2012???
or persona R is another type of model?
my cousin said persona R. i dont think so its gonna be type R
i think Persona R is a new model..not persona replacement..Its too early to replace persona..A few month ago proton just introduce persona elegance..
But, to proton, please dont use ‘type R’..This is exclusive for Honda only..all those basher will hentam kaw-kaw la if proton use word ‘type R’ for the new model..
Just my 2.22cent
haishh.. they never call it type R bro.. they just call the project the Persona R and the letter R is for Replacement bro.. and one thing, persona is a same design with the gen2 just addng the length so it is already almost 6 years… so they decide to make new one la..
haishh.. they never call it type R bro.. they just call the project name with the Persona R and the letter R is for Replacement bro.. and one thing, persona is a same design with the gen2 just addng the length so it is already almost 6 years… so they decide to make new one la..
hehe..persona R means persona replacement..not model type R :)
volvo got type R what..
ur kazen is dead meat coz bocor company secret….
Persona Wagon. haha. the rear design is rather weird but the front looks nice ! like it !
Could be a station wagon like alza that has a bigger third row seats.
Eh, Alza ni kereta apa sebenarnya? Ada cakap MPV, ada cakap Mini-MPV, ada cakap Wagon, ada yang cakap kereta yang boleh transform jadi MPV.
ikut theme dia laa bro , car a moment, mpv the next.. kalau wagon, mcm caldina.. caldina fit dgn 5 org jaa, x lbh.. org yg x membaca mcm tu laa..kalau malas sgt nk mencari, ni haa link kalau nk tau caldina tu apa.. aku tlng cari lg..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Caldina
alza tu mcm mitsubishi colt plus.. ni kelas baru dlm dunia kereta dimana ianya kereta dlm bentuk MPV, dgn kemudahan menjadi mpv bila diperlukan..
kepada mereka2 tu, tlng laa baca.. jgn tau ckp jaa.. dr sini kita blh tgk berapa ramai org malaysia yg membaca..
I spotted this car last month at road behind Proton Hicom… The rear roof line a bit sleeker.. the third row glass a bit small but the car itself wider and bolder than current exora… Overall very sporty at a glance.. during my observation there no disguised and this car a bit lowered compared to exora as you can see in the first picture.. very unlucky that i;m driving alone and didn’t managed to take a snapshot… way to go proton!
Lucky guy! I’m thinking of getting an Alza to replace my present car, but I think I’ll wait for this ‘new Proton’ to come out so that I can make a comparison.
is a coffin car, kereta org mayat…..lagi satu babi design! tak guna
LOOsEr!! and lagi satu kenyataan dr stupid basher….
biarkanlah dia.. diakan lagu tema utk piala dunia 2010.. mana dia tahu apa2 pasal keta..
This comment not from a plain stupid, but really2 stupid basher. Ada lg rakyat 1Msia yg berfikiran mcm ni, hmmm……..what a pity…
hahaha…im laughing out loud when reading your comment.
you can’t be mad when a crazy person talk bad about you.
you laugh…
bingai…
Knowing that proton likes to milk every ounce out of everything, wouldnt surprise me if its an exora sedan. lol.
Damn..Exora sedan??joke of the day..hahahaha…
yes…dats true…i once interviewed a mechanical engineer from proton…the new waja totally looks like a lancer gt…but it will only being produced in limited like satria neo…due to its low demand (predictions)…and the engine are powered up to 2.0liter…but is it a campro?…i do not know…the est. price for b-line are about rm60K…
People, think. Which model is due for replacement in proton’s stable???? Arena, Gen2, Neo or Perdana…????? These are the answers!!
all of them?
more like a proton otuksi (odessey)
laysi ?
look at the muffler, u know it is a turbo….
got tips from proton…this is proton turbocharger
This “baby” will fight with caldina & honda odyssey.. Hihihi…
Well, whatever they do, no matter what it will be, I just hope that it using something from the so called Phoenix Project.
All these conflicting insider info is meant to confuse us to keep the web of mystery spinning on.
Caldina type of car.
Proton sport wagon?
member aku kt tjg malim gtaw Persona R tu persona hybrid means yg nie maybe lain model..
pulak dah…….
Ah sudah! Persona R hybrid pulak! hehehe macam macam…
nak hybrid pun tunggu proton emas le…
Arghhh, I want to give my tips from my “insider” too. This is actually “LORI BALAK” replacement model. Codename “Proton Refrigerator”. Yes, you guess it correctly, Proton Juara’s siblings. Its actually rectangular shape. Powered by Campro 660cc.
i dont know y this people born at malaysian land..
it is just me or everyone else too, forget to laugh to you joke? heh. this is not your playground syoh, syoh3… go away basher..
nope, u just totally dont have a sense of humour like most thinskinned proton fanboys. now go take your anti-amok medicine.
IMO, this prototype is actually a pick-up…
Very similar styling which i can find…
Like wad some bros had said, this might be the Arena replacement.
Note: Arena is based on Wira. Thus it makes sense if Proton based on Exora which is actually the extended chassis of Gen 2/ Persona .
r u sure? exora is new bigger chasis not extended persona chasis
I hope it’s a Caldineo, with turbo of course..
haiyo.. proton are going booking their own coffin if put name caldineo.
myb this new car is proton’s new stratergy in combating alza
Peter,The Exora chassis is totally new not based on Persona nor Gen2.Hopes you understand
Syoh,Pardon me for saying this but its aint nice to post unconstructive comments which contain hatred,biased and sick joke just because you dont like Proton.Hope you know and cheers.
PS:I;m not a Proton salesman nor representative.Just a pure Singaporean used to drive Japanese,Korean,Continental and currently driving Malaysian made cars.
meaning you getting poorer? joking. joking.
joke aside, your knowledge about proton are better than some of our own “countrymen”.
i assume that proton gonna make a station wagon base on the exora platform.
my cousin who work for proton R&D said the mystery model is gonna be PERSONA R. sorry for the mistakes.
this mystery model mybe brings us to the (CAMPRO CPS TURBO)
wargh fell proud of u proton…..
anyway i just get the pictures 3 diffrent capture about our new waja replacement.
its coming to see us with 1.8L & 2.0L.
mr paul, are u intrested to have this pics?
u send it to this email [email protected]. me and my friends waiting for ur email with the photos
ill try.. tq
as what i know, there is no CAMPRO CPS TURBO. If i’m not mistaken, Proton only turbocharge the normal Campro engine.
neither the IAFM nor the CPS will be used in the turbo engine. the turbo engine is supposedly to have CVVT on its intakes. Proton already said this in a newspaper.
can i have the pic pliz??
Here’s my opinion. I dont think its a wagon, sedan or pickup (arena). By the way it looks and the cover-up, It might very well be a big 5-door hatchback like the Merc B class, Renault Scenic and Mitsubishi Colt Plus, the type of car, which does look like a MPV but can only seat 5. This will certainly overcome the GEN 2 drawback which is limited headroom for the rear passenger.
Does look like an MPV but can seat only 5? What you’re describing is basically a WAGON!
Maybe a new Persona Type R Turbo with wagon body?
very sporty design. me like!
good job Proton!
I think ti is a huge mpv model which can be sited 10 person . be cos proton still dont have it yet. exora too narrow at the back sit………
then go for nissan vanette lor.. wish, innova, avanza, alza also narrow at the back sit lor…
caldina wanabe myb… :D
Hi Subhero, is the waja replacement same as Lancer? Please post the pictures for us to see la.
i did sent to paul inbox. wait for paul ok..
i like the R of persona R =)
another source i hear.. proton will produce new vechile look like exora, but use campro turbo..
This trial run for new model PERSONA R that will lauch early year of 2012. As a proton vendor we already have all the information due this new model and improvement for new campro iafm turbo 1.6L upgrade. for more info please dont hesitate to ask me.
Thanks
Dear nyzars a.k.a proton vendor
If the info given by u is rite, so you’re just too brave to be summoned by proton.
all the info is strictly confidential dude.
Good luck.
Why so many people claim they got insider? Plus some who boldly claim it was a certain car or something.
u can share the info to mr paul. so that paul can share with all of us.. that one more better..
how many variants that they have for persona r? i heard the gearbox combo will be 6mt from getrag and cvt from punch(aka ZF), is it true? how much the hp and torque for campro CFE and IAFM+? does iafm+ has cvvt also as the turbo? Does they use direct injection for the new engine?
maybe this is why PROTON buy 2 toyota wish back then when they are try to come up with exora…now we know what happen to that 2 toyota wish..hehehe :)
did u guys remember about the test mule, toyota wish that proton used for producing exora before??? i think this has something related to that wish…. perhaps proton want to produce a compact mpv like wish…. coz this prototype does look like wish in shape….
The use of multilink suspension at the back instead of torsion beam take up some space so normally mpv will not use it. The best bet would be a car. but I can be wrong.
its a complete SUV in passenger area.
but the rear part (cargo area) still in “halfcut” from exora.
and front (headlamp) look like “halfcut” from gen2.
so u if the rear design change to :
-a cargo bed, u can get a Triton Lite = Arena replacement
-a hatchback, u can get a BMW X6 = Perdana replacement.
old Arena sold badly , bcoz of design look like 80’s pick up = datsun single cab.
are u going to buy it, if it look like proton’s “triton Lite”?
perdana also outdated bcoz now was SUV years.
are want to buy camry/accord if u can get proton’s “harrier/murano”?
why u buy perdana if u can get toyota camry for just 20K more.
paul, ive send the pics of waja replacement to ur email.. hurry up .. all your readers cant wait to see it..
wahhh…very good.come on paul!!
it will new model, but the design will look like exora..
Or could be a Proton Perdana replacement? If so, then it would be either keeping the Perdana nameplate or something else. Proton Panettiere, perhaps?
something like toyota wish or honda stream?
Whatever it is, It will inherit the same Power Windows DNA and other Tin Milo quality issues from its predecessor (or should I say, dowgrade from a rebadge imports)? Haha.
Nice car !! ….proton now to create the new model for MPV ..
Bodoh!!! Bodoh!!!! Bodoh!!!!
Design teruk macam babi!! Engineer Proton memang otak keldai, bodoh sangat. Semua tak boleh buat. Konon nak buat enjin campro..aahhh campro taik je semua tu. Bukannya power pun. Campro ni makan asap jer dengan enjin lain, bukannya pickup, lemah, langsung lembab macam siput.
Orang bongok je yang kata campro ni bagus. Inikan enjin reject dari Lotus yang Proton ambik. Lotus dah buang sebab enjin macam sial pastu Proton beli. Kemudian dakwa campro ni Proton sendiri buat. Taik arr semua ni. Enjin reject pun nak dibangga-banggakan. Bodoh!!!
Semua body kereta Proton macam tin susu. Senang je nak kemek. Kualiti plastik kat dashboard teruk sangat. Macam plastik mainan budak2 yang buatan China tu. Pintu kalau nak tutup kena hempas kuat-kuat baru boleh tutup rapat. Bodoh betul engineer Proton. Kereta luar negara semua tutup pintu slow je, bunyi pun sedap, mantap. Tengok la macam pintu Perodua Myvi, Alza. Tutup slow je dah rapat,bunyi pun mantap. Proton? Bodoh!! Buat pintu pun tak reti.
Korang tak payahlah beli semua kereta Proton ni. Mengarut jer. Model baru konon, nak buat kereta wagon macam Toyota Caldina konon. Taik ar semua tu. Proton ni semua bodoh dari Pengerusi dia, Pengarah Urusan dia, semua pekerja2, R&D, engineer sampai la budak2 hingusan bodoh yang jadi tukang pasang & jadi Quality Control. Semua otak keldai, akal lembu. Orang yang beli pun sama.
Mampus Proton!! Mampus Proton!!! Mampus Proton!!!
ko tu dah pandai sangat ke?
dia pandai maki & condemn je la..
bodoh cam hang la….stupid bull
a very rude person..pathetic..
wow! amok betul this anti-proton fanboy. as much as i hate proton, no need to behave like that those amok proton fanboys bah. chill bro!
I support you Kapunek! Muahahaha,
This stupid Kapunek should not live at Malaysia. Go la Japan or German…
insane!!!…leave it him alone..
kesian2 org mental problem nih..
aku rasa kapunek ni lembu otak keldai la..! ckp main sembur je.. dia dah try bwk new generation of proton ke? ada? tak adil la kalau stakat komen.. tapi tak mencuba atau mengkaji sedlm2nya.. ko try la bwk honda city or toyota vios.. pas tu ko bwk proton persona.. kalau ko tak te persona.. aku rasa ko dtg datang dari planet haiwan kurang cerdik la..
kapunek ni aku rasa baru pulang dari hutan kot.. tak pernah tahu pekembangan proton langsung..
proton dah menang mcm2 award utk saga, pesona dan exora.. ape lagi yg tak puas hati? nak dapat kereta free dari proton kot?
gua xnk ckp lebey2.. cuma gua nk gtaw, lu laa bodo.. tnjuk mentaliti tahap biawak..
aku ada wat kajian pasal pengguna2 kereta kt malaysia.. apasal kereta proton byk rosak?? pasal masing2 guna mcm biawak.. kete bru, tutup pintu main hempas kuat2.. camna x jahanam.. pastu pulak, bila nk speed nk potong2, bt kasar mcm kete tu racing tuned.. sbb apa diorg bt cm tu, sbb keta proton murah.. buatan malaysia.. cuba bg BMW, Audi atau lain2 bkn buatan malaysia.. pergghhhh… jaga.. tutup pintu pun slow jee. kalau x rapat pun tarik gak bg rapat, x hempas2.. ye la.. German made, Japan made katakan.. jaga lah..
Kereta macam tin milo sudah diberi kepada Perodua sejak Waja. Tengok saja pintu dan bumbung Viva. Campro memang dibuat oleh Proton,sebab saya kenal mereka semasa berada di UK dengan dibantu selepas buat prototip oleh Lotus dan mungkin Ricardo. Well done Proton.
Bawa bersabar, bro… nak kutuk pun berlapik ckt, mmg p1 buat keta mcm hampeh tp gov lindung dia, keta import mahal, keta dia murah, p2 pula kecil ketanya…nak x nak, yg x mampu pki keta besar tpaksalah pki p1……
Nice Car. Proud of Proton a real Malaysian car manufacturer.
Mcm caldina pun ada.. tapi smaller window.. apa kereta ini.. exora kena potong bumbung kot..
My friend who work in R&D Department at Proton said this one not SUV from Proton. This is New Nissan X-Trail. Belakang tu Exora cuma kebetulan jer….
la … ye ke?
skrg sume pakat kata kwn diorg kata itu ini.. mana satu btol nihh..
i hereby confirm that the pic had been edited. any further info pls refer to proton pr
another joke of the day… :LoL:
These spy shots show the new model being developed by proton, indeed. However, everything is kept secret at the moment that both Proton Head of Engineering and the PR Dept have no knowledge of this project.
Bear in mind that the Proton Engineering Dept is not involved in the development of new model, thus they know nuts about our works.
I am sorry I cant elaborate more guys, though I know you all are very curious about our work. You all will have to wait and see …..
go proton go!
let all the basher shut their mouth!
http://www.facebook.com/protonfans
exora president!
cun wooo…..
aiyoo you guys…think why cut bumbung exora..look like wish..and covered up everywhere think!!! to mislead us! they are testing the new Perdana replacement model!! Remember proton mention exora platform will be the base for the new Perdana!!! … in order to test road handling, weight distriubution..maybe aerodynamics (i dunno) they cut the roof make it slight lighter..put in testing gizmos..and test on the roads…its the new proton perdana…luxury..gomen model hehe..proton primo….el presidente…perdana ..but RnD proton..make the design ur own xmo amik cue merc-s-class..bm- audi…one word tho…think italian!….Maserati Quattroporte!!!….oooo sure all drool…2litre hybrid twin turbo biodiesel..woochiiimama!!!
hopefully the engine will be 2.0 and above…at least 1.8….please PROTON..
Sorry… we dont have 1.8 or 2.0 engine. But our soon to be launched turbocharged engine will have output power and torque equivalent to those of 2.0 engine.
Unlike campro, the new engine will have strong torque at low end… drivability will be very much improved especially for big cars like exora.
Wait and see….
dato’ syed zainal already said…
there’s no 2.0liter engine from proton….but in order to get bigger power…proton will use campro 1.6-T (for the sake of ecology green like ford ecoboost philosophy)
DIORANG NI TAK SENANG DGN KEJAYAAN ANAK MALAYSIA.
SYABAS TO D.S.Z
HOPE ONE DAY PROTON WILL SET THE STANDARD.
guys, start saving for the upcoming “proton Caldina”
This is a new suv or crossover made by proton for the youngman and proton will buy back for us
Proton MSX aka Lotus APX
Guys,search for it.
I guess proton is following the market.. to come-up replacement model with crossover type car.. bigger size than sedan but look like an SUV
mybe them want make a car like Toyota Wish . .
I think its an SUV. Proton have been planning to make one.
spot this car .. the prototype and waja replacement at cyberjaya ( lim kok wing ) the prototype super fast cant kejar.. the waja just a test drive ( corner ) ill guess pull the steering to left n right like crazy man akakaka
we havent figure out this yet….Paul…do u have any idea