While the news on Proton’s new Proton Inspira model is still hot off the press, Proton is already busy preparing the final stages of its next generation Proton Persona, referred to so far by the Proton management as the “Persona R”. R in this case stands for Replacement.
We may be looking at the Persona R being launched somewhere in early to mid 2012 based on a filing by Proton parts supplier Ingress Corporation Berhad to Bursa Malaysia. Ingress reported that it received a Letter of Intents from Proton for the supply of two parts for a new project – Roof Drip Mouldings and Door Sash. Supply for both parts are for 5 years and are supposed to commence in Q4 of it’s financial year ending 31st January 2012, which means somewhere from November 2011 to January 2012.
There are a lot of exciting things coming up from Proton and their engineering resources must be quite stretched – the Persona R, the Campro Turbo engine (along with the Exora Turbo to debut next year), a revision to the normally aspirated Campro engines, matching their engines with new family of transmissions (Punch for CVT automatic and Getrag for manual), the Saga facelift, and preparing to put the Proton EMAS into production.
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i really want to see the persona r…giugaro and proton..=)
italian designed supercars are gorgeous but most common cars design by italians are not quite as good ie. suzuki sx4, matrix. Really hope the persona r will be good thou.
dude, they say it looks very European… sleek and sporty.
hope proton’s ppl dah bertaubat and improve the quality first before nak jadi buaya again to the vendors… and vendors pulak give a good quality product if the buaya dah jadi manusia.. hahaha
oh babe.. 2012 will be really interesting.. It seem that Proton want to make it to the climax right before the end of the world. gogo~^^
Well, got many people say “the day that I consider buying a Proton will be the day the world ends.” Maybe betul pulak.
hahaha….
Do you really thing Dec, 2012 is the end of the world…?
It could be the mayan just out of simbol….
p/s: sorry for the off topic stuff…
they are just joking anyway.
I like Ash’s post!
there a news on yahoo! about it….
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20101019/sc_livescience/endoftheearthpostponed
wa~ All becoming CVT.. and Getrag for manual~! Getrag= dual clutch transmission~.
wa~ + turbo engine.. Proton is going the sporty route.
Yes be aggressive Proton!
good work..keep it up!
picture please….
too early-mah..
You can view the pic of Persona R by hacking to the Proton design department using wiretapping….
I smell internet crime!
since u know so much about hacking, u can do it for us then! lol
ahaha.. second that!
interesting year ahead. can we fast forward already?lol
2012 is coming
the basic quality still an issue,
already think to produce R version, good proton, thumbs up.
wonder how many percent out there will go back to proton, if switch out from proton made. somemore R version. Proton no longer target on low budget group
If u willing to pay more, u will get the quality… want cheap, go for china vehicle..
They target low budget group with Proton EMAS.
R version? R in this case is for Replacement, not Type-R punye R laa…
R = Replacement…not Racing
Bro,
Persona R is referring to persona Replacement model not “R” as in “racing” . Next time do some reading first before bashing. It makes u look stupid
What IF people think “R” is?
-Rocket?
R is Rogol!
‘R’ in this context could mean ‘Replacement’
R is for replacement la dude.. not racing. read first la before posting. haiyoo… chup chup chup…(geleng kepala)
It is too late Proton….In 2012, you should build space ship instead…
because it is END OF THE WORLD–2012!
did u know its freemason propaganda…no one know the end of the world…
pengaruh television..
you watch too much movie la…wierdo!
2012, end of world…nehhh….but maybe we will have a new “RULER”…the new world order..prepare ur self…
Why? Since the last election was in 2008, the term stands for 5 years…shouldn’t it be 2013, if it occurs at all?
we’ll see first if the INSPIRA is an indication of good things to come, after all , it is based on a tried and tested model sold worldwide , what could go wrong?
Very good News Paul
I wish Proton well & i hope we see a lot of cutting edge stuff. If Proton want to be well in the UK again (They started well but faded) they must understand that value for money MUST go hand in hand with cheap running costs.
The Gen 2 is a nice looking car but it has a high CO2 output engine & we are taxed here in the UK on CO2. Most other car manufacters are going for 3 cyinder small cc Turbo engines………i hope Proton follow suit.
Cheers
Mike/Liverpool Uk
the new Proton engine will be a 1.6L 4-cylinder turbo. kinda like the Peugeot 1.6 THP engine
Nooo no 3 cylinder engine please, I don’t like the feel of some 3 cylinder engines out there.
Anyway 4 cylinder small cc turbo should be better and easier to design. 1.6 4 cylinder turbo would be great! Cant wait
i hope you are an evertonian coz proton is going down just like liverpool! lol!
Wouldn’t it be wise to have higher displacement engines in their range? Or is it the trend these days by global manufacturers to scale down because everybody wants to jump onto the green-tech bandwagon? Somehow or rather, I feel something is amiss in the proton’s car and engine line-up – like a real competitor to Camry and Accord, or mini and mid-sized SUVs in the form of CRV and Rush. Anybody care to comment? Paul? Proton? Anyone?
What is so wise about having bigger displacement engines? It sucks more oil and blows more gas. Be part of the solution dude. Read up. Be aware.
In mass production cars, manufacturers nowadays go for more torque engines rather than more hp engines, so they start to manufacture small turbo diesel engines that produce higher torque at very low rpm.
This is because most cars nowadays spend their lifetime in a traffic jams. Most of the powers from the engine is used to move the weight of the car (inertia) for only few meters away for most of the times. So it is more practical to have small turbo engine that able to produce higher torque. Big engine is heavy and not environmental friendly. It is just not practical anymore. Some days in the future, people may even laugh at you when you drive big engine car (like those driving Hummer). Please correct me if I am wrong.
I hope Proton have a plan how to produce this state of the art turbo diesel engine because I am going to look for one too!
can i laugh at 5 series or e series owners?
Paul, is it Proton’s financial year end? because if i’m not mistaken, proton financial year end is 31 March, not 31 Jan. Or maybe it shud be Ingress’s?
the FYE referred to Ingress’s. If read properly, the statement is taken from Ingress’s filing to Bursa
Sounds like Proton’s next generation Persona will really have excellent technology and quality.. Punch CVT! This should be the V-belt Variomatic CVT based on DAF’s unit, that’s used by Audi as their Multitronic transmission range.
As for the manual Getrag, I don’t think it’s a dual-clutch. It’s a regular manual tranny, but possibly a 6-speed version?
Forgive me for being pessimistic, but proton is yet to prove itself of being generous in giving tech and goodies. Even the basic airbag is a big fuss for them to provide especially for domestic products.
compare to what..? to me waja have more & better features than Vios… vios is only comparable to Saga.. hehehe.
Hehehe, comedian :)
well mofazzy, this is what happens when you start to believe in the lies you put out. you look silly. lol!
well, dicky. if it’s just me, i would receive more thumbs down rather than up, right?
I don’t have to list down all the features Waja Vs Vios here. many people agree, only you and bashers alike are still in the state of denial. always thinking that foreign product better.
hoooo..i will finish paying my car in 2 years time..should wait and see how this persona comes out to be.hehe..hopefully i can afford it.
Congrats! good to know there are still people like u completing the entire original repayment schedule.
Is this “Persona R” is a sport model like the civic type R?
read..
read..
read…
please la..
R=Replacement lah..
Well… If the turbo engine can match the performance why not?
same people..same quality issue
i still waiting P1 to enter big market outside there…india?
woohooo go go proton!
Why they need to make out the persona sedan a R car…..such as EK9
it should start with satria neo turbo campro with cps….then it will get the bulu roma berdiri…..with persona characteristic such as bodyroll, weight, power to hp ratio….it will not compete with other R spec car…..get the sluggish below 3.5k RPM out an after that put the meter dial on the panel FLAT until 8k RPM…..after that then it can start with persona….oh well, anyway should do…..persona R or neo R its not my decision…just making out my head clear….
why people always assume ‘R’ is for racing? can’t get Type R out of your mind eh? well, even Type R is discontinued! R in Persona R is “Replacement”.. not racing!
please read carefully next time, and make sure you understand the topic ya! if in SPM, you’ll fail terribly.
typical, typical malaysian mentality
bash first, talk the next second, think the next hundreds years
you know Paul has been writing that “R” in the context means “Replacement”?
this show how dumb malaysian can be
no wonder korean can go on even further today even though Hyundai once the crappiest car in USA back then
Remember you are also a Malaysian then. And the mentality is same as those hardcore T& H fans!
at least he ‘sedar diri’. lol
wat mofaz said is true..R is for replacement..DSZ also said it..paul also said..my lowly knowledge know it is replacement..don read this article only read other articles bout persona R…u should read n understand wat paul article all bout…
have u heard the word REPLACEMENT?
the R here is for that ok?
R = replacement. what the point making the meter dial up to 8k rpm?
r is for replacement la dude.. baca betoi2 la..
asal huruf R je racing.. plus not everybody want to race lor. Already forgot the 10.10.10 accident?
somebody mistaken R for sport type like honda type R instead of R for replacement only ma…. :P
better make it clear or later ppl misunderstood it.. :P
persona R might just be a persona Replacement.. not Racing :D
OOOO…no racing DNA …..just “R”eplacement……
My bad….
in other words.. Persona R is a whole new model.
R for revise.. n persona R for replacement..but I’m still wonder possibly about the engine to put for persona r…
any body can use R maaaaa…
Like SE, some call it special edition some call it standard edition….
Anyway Ingress better test the weathering and heat cycle test properly, otherwise the R will stands for Persona Roof Moulding Rosak…….
Good Luck Ingress….
LE? ladies edition…lulzz
honda.. R is racing
proton.. R is replacement….
PROTON GO!!!
by 2012, Persona R,
by 2015, Persona R + A.R.T Technology (better than hybrid)
There are sooo many development in PROTON R&D,
The Inspira profit will be channelled to those R&D.
good news from proton…thats pretty fast to have a replacement for the persona IMO.
they should replace the savvy 1st.
what about perodua R&D?
myvi SE-R —> replacement of new bodykit/ replacement of new paint job color.
DSZ is making Proton stick to a 5 year replacement schedule. No more (hopefully) models sold for 20+ years like the old days.
We need a lot more people like DSZ at Proton.
Don’t bow to those bloody cheap vendors.
Go for Quality and Customer Service.
yeah.. we can see how DSZ change P1 totally and see how they create a phenomenon just to introduce a new model.. however, need to push over the quality.. still have problem.. don ever look down this matter..
I wish DSZ could stay in Proton forever..
savvy x balik modal lagi…huhuhuh that’s why saga still need facelift but gen2 already balik modal… neo?? long way to go for replacement…
this “R” version of persona…
is it Type R one????
aiyoo..read before comment….”next generation Proton Persona, referred to so far by the Proton management as the “Persona R”. R in this case stands for Replacement.”..
R as in “REPLACEMENT”
Dude read the post R is Replacement not Racing!!!!!
R for Persona R means Replacement Maaaa
Honda Type R, R means = Rabak… Consume fuel like drinking water….
i think Type-R is for Ragut. coz it ragut your wallet for money to fill more petrol lol.
People never learn…
Bro..please, don’t make yourself like this…please listen to other commentors advice; READ 1st, COMMENT later
proton is recently do some acceleration, catching with technology. good
to realise that some people here jump straight towards the comment, makes me sick.
R is for Replacement.
Not Racing.
Proton uses R3 for Racing.
that y i has suggest paul to make mandatory to read the article first than giv comment or bash as many as we all can….
YEAYYYY!!!
The italian designed Persona replacement is in full swing development for it’s 2012 launch. People who have seen the clay models says it looks really good.
ehh..? where can i see the model?
yeah.. have any picture?
yeah dude…..there is really WOW factor for this Persona R model..that one i can guarantee you..the best design from proton i think..
so far so good…proton still improving….
proton need to read all the comment in paultan….
so they maybe will think the customer desire…and match with their budget per car…
PERSONA R if not mistaken the car design by lambo designer….maybe can find from the net….
Now this is what I call national car maker!! Man.. I’ve been waiting for years till this day to see progress. Well Done. Keep up the Good Work and please deliver quality products.
Dear bloggers,
Kindly read the full news before writing your comment …
“While the news on Proton’s new Proton Inspira model is still hot off the press, Proton is already busy preparing the final stages of its next generation Proton Persona, referred to so far by the Proton management as the “Persona R”. R in this case stands for Replacement.”
I’m looking forward for the new model in 2012 (though many say its the end of our time)…I hope by that year proton change my mind and finally bought its model..
Long live proton!
as it stated in the first paragraph, R for replacement..
Persona R = Persona Replacement
not Racing or a sportier version of the car whatsoever.
don’t cha read the article?
Maybe some people think “R” is Rocket…LOL!
Proton’s New Global Small Car Project will be Proton Pandora.
Good to see proton is improving. i would not mind to get a proton next time. their current newest persona is good, except the aircond is quite loud inside cabin, compare to my nissan and honda. would be nice if proton can improve it.
i wish proton goes for double clutch boxes rather than CVT….the way cvt works and feels is just plain weird , very hard to get used to it….
Hopefully, being a public-listed company, Ingress would stand up to its reputation and provide Proton with high quality parts and not some shaddy loose parts Proton used to get…with this, Ingress wins, Proton wins, customers also win….
i believe the excitement is back at proton, and i thought the vibes are more or less the same encouraging as it was back in 1980s when it first set up shop. many people at that time were excite and eager to see whats what with proton. of course they were proud that finally we were making and selling cars.
these interesting news that keep coming out of shah alam show that proton is going places. and with najib announcing that wawasan 2020 is reachable target, i personally wish that all protection upon proton to be phased out, little by little, in the years we are going to 2020.
and in 2020 i would like to have a zero protection policy upon proton
Interesting…..
2012 eh?
i think proton should ditch the ‘R’ in persona as it’s already confusing some people here hahaha.
nanti keluar, some people will think that this is the ‘Type R’ performance car at a resonable price hahaha
the production model will NOT have the ‘R’ name. it’s just a prototype codename laa.
think twice before posting la.
R – for Romen
R – for rosak…..
“R” is for Razak..it’s Najib father what…haiya
5 year contract to supply those parts. So if Persona R launches on mid 2012, it will be replaced sometime end of 2017 and the latest 2018?
Perdana replacement = 2011
Arena = 2011
2nd generation Persona = 2012
Emas = 2012
3rd generation Saga = 2013
2nd generation Exora MPV = 2014
Satria Neo? Heheh…
priority first dude :)
satria x balik modal lagi…need to wait la…
any pics of persona replacement?
proton just run the assembly line and non skilled labour force
everything outsourced except the assembly line and non skilled labour force
bagaimana pula dengan segmen lain. takkan proton nak buat kereta saja. buatlah pulak SUV yg murah dan affordable utk rakyat yg tak mampu nak merasa honda CRV ataupun Hilux.
I want to win contract by my competency, not by friendship. Competency means ability to build durable things, which fit well with other components so that there is no kok kok ke sound within two weeks of a brand new car like Waja.
lame…
putting the eMAS into productions?…for who?…
..and what happened to the Detroit venture?..all silent?..Thought they had a Persona running electric?.
and now they are hoping to do hybrid?…
seriously Proton…get ur act together on what you are strategically planning to do.
IF the investment is small, don’t start straying into all direction. We don’t have the capability to spawn various projects like Honda and Toyota…..
the detroit venture is NOT proton’s project. it’s so happen that detroit electric using proton & lotus cars for their ‘prototypes’
senjak 2008 aku dengr pasal ni skrg bru nak setup untuk production?.. so savvy stop production, mcm ner pasal savvy R lak? hope savvy R batter then next gen-myvi…
aku rasa Emas akan ganti segment savvy dengan enjin saiz kecil (bukan hybrid)..
dan savvy dengarnya masih dapat permintaan tinggi dari Thai
Keep up the good work Proton Malaysia. Gradually you will develop a competitive market category against the foreign vehicle. 1 Malaysia :)
Ingress?
Top 3 problematic vendor at Proton and Perodua for 2009 and 2010. Also Top3 biggest downtime at Proton’s and Perodua production line. You can ask Proton’s and Perodua’s QC for details.
Ingress should focus more on resources to give quality parts to Proton. Strictly follow control plans and PFMEA. Otherwise, its Proton who will get bad names. Thats why Ingress only get 2 parts for PersonaR out from hundreds of parts given to another vendor A*******. Dont you think why only 2 parts out of hundreds of parts for body assy?
Please lah to Top management Ingress, move your ass to genba at your production lines instead of at golf site… and please dont ask Proton to fund your Dies and Jigs like last time during Exora..
is it true? if top 3 problematic vendor, why still give contract?? SPRM, come here.. somebody take rasuah..
Babe..
komen pakai data-bukan belasah.
Ingress dah improve-air bawah jambatan”lamo dah berlalu”.
zaman masalah 2008 – 1st yr pelancaran”semua vendor pun masalah”.
09 ~ 11 jauh cemerlang.
welcome n C-all Proton XTVT INGRESS Score A.
sobab itu dapat new project.
**alhamdulillah.
good ‘punch line’ Imst….