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Now this is something really really strange. The upcoming replacement for the Proton Saga codenamed the Proton BLM has been spotted on the road, without any camouflage, and registered! Yes, the car had a proper number plate instead of a trade plate, but I’ve censored it off these photos. If you notice, there’s even a road tax sticker on the windscreen. The car only had its Proton badges removed/covered up, but other than that it shows pretty much the full details of the car.
The Proton BLM looks rather decent, and the rear will remind people of the outgoing Mercedes Benz W203 C-Class. Proton has taken the conservative route to the BLM’s styling as it has to have a huge mass appeal, and being safe is always a good idea when it comes to designing a car for volume sales, just look at Toyota’s design language. There are no oddities like the step-up window line of the Savvy, or the bling turbine wheels of the Satria Neo.
It looks like a nice, compact and anonymous-looking small B-segment sedan, with a boot that looks like it could store an estimated 400 to 450 litres of luggage. If Proton continues its new philosophy of designing cars for the consumers, expect nifty conveniences such as hinges that do not intrude into boot space, a decent amount of interior storage space, and a frugal 1.3 litre engine with both manual and automatic gearboxes.
The interior design should take cues from the current Proton Saga, which has had its interior updated with the latest facelift. Expect the interior to be a sensible one, something more Persona than Satria Neo – this means no crazy bright blue lights to light up your meter panel unlike the current Saga interior.
The word through the grapevines is that Proton is looking to a launch date sometime in the first half of January 2008. I cannot wait to see the old Proton Saga finally replaced! Not sure what the name is, but Proton might decide to keep the Proton Saga name for continuity, just like how it kept the Persona name for its new Wira replacement, as Persona was the Wira’s export name.
Spyshots snapped by 0hmyg0d and posted with permission.
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Nice exterior, I think this would be a competitive model between Perodua MyVi and Perodua Viva. Any estimation about the price? Looking forward for this model.
Hey. This looks kinda good to me. Kinda classy even (for its class). Should be good enough to satisfy a lot of people out there. This is what Proton should do for all of its models. Keep its styling decent and practical to attract the majority of the buyer. Then come out with a spruced up versions (e.g. GTi, SE, GT, etc ) to satisfy the racer boy niche. Heck, with the economic of scale that they are able to achieve by having more sales, they can knocked themself out and get a bit more crazier on their design for the special versions!
IMHO, they should retain the Saga’s name. This will show how far they come since 1984. The car’s heritage and lineage should be retained. At least, the grill still looks similar to the current Saga Iswara ;P
Just hope that this model’s interiors, specs and pricing wont disappoints. This could probably be my first Proton (or at least my wife’s). LOL
I think this is a nice car.
For the design can see improvement from Savvy.
Heard the price is below RM40k rite. Then really can beat the Perodua market.
Seriously i think Viva and MyVi is too pricey already.
not bad!
make sure its reasonably affordable!
retain lotus character + family sensibility…
can’t wait to see it for myself!!
cool. i think this will be well accepted by the public (assuming it will sell in the rm30,000s price range). good work proton!
already booked the car on last wednesday and second person in puchong branch. now waiting to touch n drive it.
Proton really admire City and Latio design. Good luck
Yay… A new proton…
#nanashisan said,
December 23, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
already booked the car on last wednesday and second person in puchong branch. now waiting to touch n drive it.
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It’s for sale before launch o.0?
OT: has anyone read macosrumors.com? PT’s writing style is like that site’s one for this post. lol.
On Topic: looks classy, subRM40k perhaps?
to tell da truth , the car looks really nice…
Looks quite decent. Hope interior quality is good.
Squint a little bit and you can see the savvy in the 2nd pic. Nice design overall. A serious competitor as far as P2 is concerned.
im confused coz its look like mahindra renault logan..though..does p1 just copy and paste? paul, plz answer
Nice but C pillar kinda thick. Maybe for rear crash crumple zone protection, but how about blind spot?
Blindspots you say? Most cars nowadays have big c pillars.
ANyway, nice car with practicality to match.
price from rm 29k for basic model n the middle line at rm 35k. it comes both with auto n manual including Intake Air fuel module (IAFM) for better fuel consumption without sacrifice power. the name remain Proton Saga. proton plan to launch middle of january. maybe with the gen 2 facelift. this what i can say. and its True….!
front view look like Toyota Altezza, don’t u guys think?..
hehhe..a bit awkward on c-pillar..
nwvertherless..its goood looking caar..haha
The Proton’s journey has just begun!!!
Quite an old news already.
Hey…Try to imagine for the 2nd picture by putting Evo spoiler..It can be look nice…
If really selling 35K with great accessories…Im going to get one..
HEHE I’ve seen this model in the net before and sent it to Paul but then the ones i sent doesn’t really looks like that, I mean it’s 99% the same just the grill a bit diff… Abyway nice car… Hope the quality and etc won’t dissapoints me…
francis.. rm 35k for auto transmission with single airbag, cd player, alloy rims, reverse sensor, fog lamp.hmm…i forgot la… anyway.. highline also available in future if got high demand. but pls guys… dun expect pay rm 35k but get a car like honda civic ok… be fair when judge this car after it officially launch k..
looks a bit like Korean car….
finalfantasy said,
December 23, 2007 @ 8:04 pm
im confused coz its look like mahindra renault logan..though..does p1 just copy and paste? paul, plz answer
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are u a basher or what? which part is the same with logan?
is it unbelievable that proton have their own design?
whatever it is congrat to proton
this new saga is awesome for lower income group!
finalfantasy: i think it looks very different from the logan, maybe you want to double check your comparison again
Looks like a Honda City and a Skoda Octavia made love and this is it’s lovechild. I meant it in a good way =)
Glad to see Proton coming to terms with practicality and not just flashy products. This should provide healthy competition and stimulate better automobile growth in the lower RM50, 000 car segment and offer the trim level we should have been entitled to years ago.
I wish they strongly consider safety feature to be included as standard package – ABS with EBD at least. I just remember during last Hari Raya holiday, 4 proton cars skid at PLUS highway near Senawang,and ended up in the drain. ” Safety First and Profit later “
Well, it sure look good… But having a merc like butt will it be sue by merc later?
Anyway if got VIM sure it will be better then the normal CamTakPro. Anyway what i found out is that they will have 2 air-bags & ABS for high spec, while medium and low line will be almost same wif Persona.
Now we can only wait for the price. For what i found out the price may not be cheaper then savvy, is like between Persona & savvy.
pretty decent lookin car, and from the news from various sources probably confirm that it will be priced at around 29k til 35k region.
with that price it would surely sell, good job i’d say to proton…
hope the interior doesn’t disappoint tho.
nice exterior!
I can vouch that it is possible to drive this car at 150km/h with a passenger on the highway. Too bad it wont have AMT on this one. Was hoping Proton would keep that as an option for the Neo. Well at least something that is less bone jarring as the current one.
i already saw this picture in another forum…the plate number was WKC191…kinda weird coz WKC was the number register in 2005 -2006….these car was a new one..is these pic was fake??? no comment on that….but the final product will look similar to these picture..no doubt bout it….peace!!! good job proton..support our local product!!!!!!…
Nice appearance. Why BL sell at 29k but not 25k? Why ML sell at 35k but not 30k? Why must pay more but not less? Demand fixed the price or profit fixed the price? It seems like only follow market price regardless the cost.
Rear taillight & design looks like OPEL VECTRA…
Proton BLM full specification:
Engine= CAMPRO 1.3 + Intake Air Fuel Module (IAFM)
Engine output= 70KW(94BHP)/6000rpm
Rev=120/4000rpm
L x W x H= 4257mm X 1680mm X 1502mm
Cabin size= 413L
Petrol tank= 40L
Colors = 5 metallic， 2 solid .
Metallic = Genetic Silver, Mountain Blue, Zircon Green, Tranquility Black, Grey.
Solid= Red , White
Warranty= 3 year or 150000 KM
Petrol Consumption= Manual: 5.5L/100KM ，Auto: 6.0L/100KM
Price range:
N-Line
-Manual
-Solid White (bumper & side mirror no painting)
-13″ wheel (175/70R13) *no sport rim / wheelcap
-2 speaker
Price: Rm33000 ++
Base Line
-Auto / Manual
-Metallic / Solid (Full body colour)
-14″ Wheel with cap (180/60R14)
-4 Speaker
Price: RM34000 – RM37000
M-Line
-Auto / Manual
-Metallic / Solid (Full body colour)
-14″ Sport rim (185/60R14)
-1 x air bag & Pre-tensioner seatbelt
-4 Speaker
Price:Rm37000 – RM39000
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dunno if its true or not.. just copy and paste one..
I can’t believe so many people actually LIKE this atrocity. It’s like a really malformed Hyundai Accent. It looks really horrible. If enough people in Malaysia like it, then fine it might sell in Malaysia, but this really doesn’t stand a chance in markets like the UK where Proton has a bad reputation anyway and is going backwards. Something looking like this can only accelerate that trend.
[quote]namiabeeR1 said,
December 24, 2007 @ 3:19 am
Proton BLM full specification:
Engine= CAMPRO 1.3 + Intake Air Fuel Module (IAFM)
Engine output= 70KW(94BHP)/6000rpm
Rev=120/4000rpm
L x W x H= 4257mm X 1680mm X 1502mm
Cabin size= 413L
Petrol tank= 40L
Colors = 5 metallic， 2 solid .
Metallic = Genetic Silver, Mountain Blue, Zircon Green, Tranquility Black, Grey.
Solid= Red , White
Warranty= 3 year or 150000 KM
Petrol Consumption= Manual: 5.5L/100KM ，Auto: 6.0L/100KM[/quote]
wahh the spec so nice. cant wait to see the launching of the car.
Does it come in a AMT setting like the savvy?
hmmm… this will kill the 2nd-hand value of kancil/kelisa,
and might as well kill the current viva!
but quite nice to see that later more students
will drive a compact sedan car compared to kancil/kelisa with no butt! :p
Wow! Great car and look! Bravo Proton! Finally Proton is the pride of nation will continue its legacy of being the leader in the car market! Keep up the good work and prove to our Rakyat that you can produce good cars!
P/S: By the way, the wheel arch lining looks too thick for this 14in rim…. hehe
Simple design but nice. If that the price, i’ll booking one. wait n see.
too early for us to judge the car now.
lets wait until it launched and we shall see.
if the price is around 30k then i foresee it will be another hot selling cake in town. P2 need to watch out on this.
too early for us to judge the car now.
lets wait until it launched and we shall see.
if the price is around 30k then i foresee it will be another hot selling cake in town. P2 need to watch out on this.
Wow. This makes me feel like regretting my decision to buy a MYVI. @!@@@#$$$$$$!!!!@!@!!!!! The butt to me looks like a skoda sedan :) front an R34? hehehe. by a long shot! Its a gen 2 modified version of the front ..!
not bad, if selling
For a 1.3l car with a boot, with an airbag and priced at circa rm37k, I’d say not bad at all!
It definately fits into many of the low & middle income group. Good job Proton, this is what you guys should be doing all along, provide value for money car for the raykat, instead of ripping us off with 25year old car, no matter how cheap it is.
It’s a nice car and this is what consumer need. Our Proton should realise this earlier but late better than never occur.
There was source said this model designed by korean’s LG design studio so I can see some Kia or Hyundai taste there especially the front looks like Optra5 or old Accent….
The interior still can’t see yet so hopefully not so plastic feel like the recent Savvy.
If the price for low line model cost slightly more than rm30k, we can see a strong fight between Proton & Perodua.
proton always neat and tidy design, and beautiful,
id say manner of how proton was formed is as the uncluttered and the cleanliness line of the audi cars,
simple volume, straight foward, yet bold enough sometime more exciting in its certain model with individual character without being too radically different to out of its models family gene,
cool~ :)
letak evo spoiler + side skirts + rim ala rally…pergh!
I just hope they change their vendor who supply:
1. Power window motor
2. Auto gearbox
Do a quality audit on that vendor and its products.
Gud wk P1….look like city/Latio styling wt high roof & boots which will translate into spacious cabin & big luggage area……another practical car from p1 which would definately sells in volume…keep the price low (25k – 35k) it will be a winner!
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narrowband said,
December 24, 2007 @ 9:38 am
I just hope they change their vendor who supply:
1. Power window motor
2. Auto gearbox
Do a quality audit on that vendor and its products.
[b]setuju [/b]
Only for 1.3L? Why no 1.5?
Exterior i think it is ok. I prefer the rear portion, it looks like mercedes benz (rear light).
But the front is not very decent especially on the side view, maybe if added with a bit aerodynamik curvature….”facelift” the front bonnet. Maybe just wait to see the actual model next year.
I hope the interior will be “SOLID” + “STYLISH” + “EXCITING”.
Anyway…. i will not consider Proton as my first choice….. because i have had bad experience in my WIRA 1.5A before….bad quality…hmmm… just cannot take any more risk….it will be my very last choice.
the dashboard, still the same as the savvy ones as you can see from t he side pic with the sahpe and contour.
Good works…Proton,
Sure most of people will buy this model. First day lauch will be very crowded..
All the best..
wow.. i will buy this… maybe white or genethic silver..
hmm.. i can see it already this car converting the front into the new evo x..
haha.. maybe look dumb but it will look great..
oyl78 said,
The Real Proton Saga BLM Pictures at website.. google proton BLM…
Urm… that was the oldest pic of BLM on the net dude..in fact, it was not a real car! Just a clay model. The real BLM is the one that you are looking at Paultan’s now….
Anyway, went to their showroom yesterday. I was intended to have a test drive a Neo, but they were unable to provide one since they don’t do a test drive on weekend (wtf?)
Anyway, the staff was kind of enough to enlighten me with some info bout the BLM and they even showed me some fresh photos of that car (those pictures were ‘supplied’ from proton not from net one)
Overall what I can say is, the car looks okay to me. Too bad, they don’t have any pic of the interior. But from I’ve been told, the interior is ‘practical’ and spacious with generous headroom and legroom!
The launch date as been informed by other people here is correct. Expect date is mid of Jan. The price also correct but I’d rather wait until the official numbers are out….
For the time being, I just wait and see. If everything looks alright I might get myself one…it is a better buy in anyway than the overpriced VIVA. Perodua should take note on this matter and don’t be so greedy. Your big brother has learned their lesson well. Hope it will stays that way. Good job Proton!
It should do pretty well for itself if it can hit the targeted 30 -35k price.
Not a big fan of converted hatchbacks….same goes to the city/vios/latio/sx4.
Competition in the market is always good for consumers. This should steal some of Perodua’s thunder.
As for other maques, it doubt it will make a dent in thier sales. The BLM is in a different price category alltogether.
nice..i notice that the roof looks like the honda city
good looking car and i think proton will go further after this .This car makes me proud to be malaysian
good job , proton!!!
i wish to trade in my old Saga for this new Saga!!!!!
So where is the teaser site????
looks good, the price is good too BUT proton never had a problem with these two things, i personally like the Looks of Gen 2, being a Proton owner now it is always been the finish that disappoints, never much the engineering of the product. proton needs to buck up on its quality control and it can be a success…
although looks abit weired from side and rear, plus C-Class tail lamp, but overall still acceptable design. not bad mah…
yup… the one white is the clear photos of BLM so far… sorry, I didn’t see the latest photos… just hope in few days or so we will get to see some interior pic as well…
I still wonder why the other day, when they showed me some photos of the BLM (white color also but different angles), they said they don’t have interior pic with them… and when I asked about how’s the interior looks like, he gave this puzzled look and said, “dia punya interior design ikut cita rasa masing-masing” (basically what he tried to say is, some might like it, some might not – aka savvy interior fiasco? LOL!)
Hope I was wrong and can’t hardly wait till this baby finally comes out!
Cheers
The dashboard similar to Savvy.
the back part looks very similarly to Nisssan Latio…but its nice,not bad for the price range.really~~~
theking said,
The dashboard similar to Savvy.
Dear theKing,
How similiar? Care to elaborate more? Thanks!
Nice.. and cheap!
Will it come in aeroback too, later?
Nice design hope it will help p1.
Unfortunately…I think their styling dept didn’t worked hard enough!…I know U all want a decent look car but if U look if not 5 or 10 years, at least 2 or 3 years from now car styling will be different even for RM30K less car! This BLM is just a normal styling (MyVi much more advance-nearly 4 year old car). Even though price and quality is 1st factor, styling is also big factor to attract buyer!
[quote]namiabeeR1 said,
December 24, 2007 @ 3:19 am
Proton BLM full specification:
Engine= CAMPRO 1.3 + Intake Air Fuel Module (IAFM)
Engine output= 70KW(94BHP)/6000rpm
Rev (Torque)=120/4000rpm
L x W x H= 4257mm X 1680mm X 1502mm
Cabin size= 413L
Petrol tank= 40L
Colors = 5 metallic， 2 solid .
Metallic = Genetic Silver, Mountain Blue, Zircon Green, Tranquility Black, Grey.
Solid= Red , White
Warranty= 3 year or 150000 KM
Petrol Consumption= Manual: 5.5L/100KM ，Auto: 6.0L/100KM[/quote]
bhp & torque look very decent for a 1.3 NA engine..
Anybody know how heavy its weight? quite an important info this one.
[quote]namiabeeR1 said,
December 24, 2007 @ 3:19 am
Proton BLM full specification:
Engine= CAMPRO 1.3 + Intake Air Fuel Module (IAFM)
Engine output= 70KW(94BHP)/6000rpm
Rev (Torque)=120/4000rpm
L x W x H= 4257mm X 1680mm X 1502mm
Cabin size= 413L
Petrol tank= 40L
Colors = 5 metallic， 2 solid .
Metallic = Genetic Silver, Mountain Blue, Zircon Green, Tranquility Black, Grey.
Solid= Red , White
Warranty= 3 year or 150000 KM
Petrol Consumption= Manual: 5.5L/100KM ，Auto: 6.0L/100KM[/quote]
bhp & torque look very decent for a 1.3 NA engine..
Anybody know how heavy its weight? quite an important info this one.
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I suppose we can assume that it weight wont be too heavy, say around the weight of Vios that is about 30- 50kg more than Savvy
I might trade off my myvi for this. New car but with same value of my 2nd hand myvi. I think it’s worth. By the way, what is the pcd of the car?
that the use of IAFM,
‘initial push power’
The width mentioned here is 1680mm. The Iswara is 1655mm. I know the Savvy width is shoter than Iswara
So what is it going to be? Either the width here is incorrect, or it cant be te exact dashboard as Savvy. Or manybe same dasboard as Savve but the doors are extra fat, and means that the interior width is smaller than current iswara.
Hmm… Front view looks promising & improve but overall shape look unbalance and a little bit boring, the body seems higher up, wheels looks to small, if the car is just for replacement it’s not good enough. what can this car promise in terms of technology, ride comfort and safety ??? I’m sorry but the car is not perfect for my eyes… still
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mo_say said,
December 24, 2007 @ 1:22 pm
Unfortunately…I think their styling dept didn’t worked hard enough!…I know U all want a decent look car but if U look if not 5 or 10 years, at least 2 or 3 years from now car styling will be different even for RM30K less car! This BLM is just a normal styling (MyVi much more advance-nearly 4 year old car). Even though price and quality is 1st factor, styling is also big factor to attract buyer!
Styling is a very subjective. Like saying MyVi is “much more advanced”, but to me it’s just normal. Viva is not exactly appealing either. Generally, most ppl that have commented that the BLM’s styling is nice and decent. You don’t expect a BMW kind of styling for a model at this price range anyway right?
I dont think styling effect the price. It will be more or less the same…all new tooling!. Sometimes styling does not include advance technology…it just outer shell. You still can have BMW styling with BLM interior or even engine as well.
next year will be sell ??? 35k-40k ?? wait n c …. wat is the name of this model ?
EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THIS “WHY I WANT TO BUY PROTON CAR?”
PRICE VS SPEC?
GOOD QUALITY?
FEEL PRIDE & PROUD TO SAY THAT MALAYSIA BOLEH BY OWNING ONE?
or
No choice because of the government policies….other model (honda/toyota/nissan) has a high price (minimum RM75k)…..
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mo_say said,
December 24, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
I dont think styling effect the price. It will be more or less the same…all new tooling!. Sometimes styling does not include advance technology…it just outer shell. You still can have BMW styling with BLM interior or even engine as well.
You’re right, but think of it this way. If the styling for this price range going to be really really advanced, then the styling for the top-end model have to be at least many times as advanced or else, the perception of the top-end styling will seem cheap. Thus it makes the higher end model harder to style.
wow.. a new proton.. nice!! da rear looks innocent n cute as well as da front.. waa.. their design is getting better.. =)
i dont think it’s possible to design a small sedan that would look proportionate and “not boxy”. It’s a limitation of the size of human beings that dictates how much legroom/headroom there must be. And the size of the cars cannot be increased.
The BMWs mentioned are all much bigger cars compared to this budget car. Bigger cars are easy to design such that they look proportionate. Eg. The vios ends up looking like a dugong (ok, it’s subjective so pls dont flame me), while the same styling cues on the Aurion looks sweet…
This is what WE (Malaysians) wanted to see…IMPROVEMENTS!!! Even if it’s small in details but there are NEW bits and parts in every product they produced. This shows that they are FINALLY listening to the MARKET, and not just sales charts…I dunno about people who LOATHE P1, but to me THIS is the way P1 should go. Let them say it looks like a KIA or a Hyundai or even a Mahindra; like those marques were really ORIGINAL from the get go :p. ( I despised Korean cars…They’re the biggest cheat of them ALL).Can’t wait for the launch,though…I want to see how FAR P1 have gone with this new model…
Good work Proton !
Pretty sure, this car would sell like hotcakes. Suggest you guyz who really plan to get this book the car earlier to skip the Q.
However, expected the price would be abit higher that all of us predicted.
Cheers
I think they shud update savvy once again alongside this model….maybe new interior (door panel etc, color) and engine as well using the same 1.3 BLM engine….AND hothatch vers of savvy using 1.6 campro maybe if it can fit…or maybe 2 doors
This model if selling like hot cake, will likely not expand the Proton market share but “replace” existing Saga share, and likely eaten into Savvy, Persona, Waja, or perhaps MyVi or Viva.
As usual, there are many congratulatory and patriotic statements from Proton supporter, blind defender alike. Hope this is not “hangat-hangat tahi ayam” @ “hot-hot chicken shit”.
If this car price below RM 40K with decent design, at least Proton are response to market expectation.
not great looking but can close one eye if priced below RM30k.
mmm, not bad
only 1 thing, the rear overhang is somehow feel far from the rear wheel, c pillar is thick, rest all not bad
Way to go PROTON!
Its show that Malaysian also can make car…
Not a rebadge car like Perodua or NAZA, even I love my small little Kancil but that is a fact..
:-)
rear overhang has to be far from the wheel otherwise the boot will be small!
Is this car with expected price range from RM 30K to RM 40K is “too late” for international market like emerging market (e.g. China & India) since they can and/or plan to produce car below RM 10K?
Anyway, BLM will start a “precedent” for really affordable car with decent quality that offer value for money in our auto industry! Hope this is just the beginning of the end of crony vendors, bad quality car and eliminate monster NAP.
In future, those 1.3 cc and below “butt-less” car like Viva, Savvy, MyVi, Chery QQ, etc shall sell from RM 15K to RM 30K.
will it come with all the body kits ad the Saga SE later ,juz like the P2 done to myvi & viva?
a BIG spoiler would be nice [like the lancer 2.0 gt’s], i think…..
RM39K for the full spec is quite a value for money. With that same price, if Proton added one more Airbag and also ABS, then the car would be a steal!!
RM39K is quite a value for money. With that same price, if Proton added one more Airbag and also ABS, then the car would be a steal!!
At RM39K, the car is quite a value for money. With that same price, if Proton added one more Airbag and also ABS, then the car would be a steal!!
GREAT job , proton !!!
i wish to trade in my old Saga for this new Saga!!!!!
Reply: Me too. I will definitely trade in my Ford Laser S (KB) with the white color BLM :)
White = Very nice for mee and looks CLEAN :) Dont u agree ? Black also i like but i rather go for bright colors :)
ooo, by the way, how is the scrapping policy going on ? ? ? seems like quiet already. anyone ?
Had been admiring the enhanced Perdana V6 and Satria NEO for a long time but its too costly to own one :(
HAI HAI
I would say that this new baby proton will sell well in the market (for sure!)
I am very confident with Proton this time since ever after the launch of the Persona . Well done to P1 ! :)
GOOD JOB PROTON..
NOW OTHER CAR COMPANIES( NAZA N PERODUA ) OPEN THEIR EYES..
THEIR BROTHER ( PROTON ) GETTIN ANGRY… N WOKE UP..
A NEW REVOLUTION OF PROTON..
IM PROUD TO OWN A PROTON..PERSONA 1.6 HI-LINE..
IT IS A GOOD CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good work on the blm.i hope the’ll introduce two or at least onether new car next year.a new perdana maybe or an mpv.very important to keep up the momentum.BLM is means base line but i hope the car will be more than reliable in moving people from A to B.
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ENGINE
Model 1NZ-FE 1NZ-FE 2NZ-FE
Type VVT-i, 4 Cylinder In-Line DOHC 16V EFI VVT-i, 4 Cylinder In-Line DOHC 16V EFI VVT-i, 4 Cylinder In-Line DOHC 16V EFI
Displacement cc 1,496 1,496 1,496
Bore and stroke mm 75.0 x 84.7 75.0 x 84.7 75.0 x 84.7
Max Output (EEC NET) 107HP/6,000 rpm 107HP/6,000 rpm 107HP/6,000 rpm
Max Torque (EEC NET) 142Nm/4,200 rpm 142Nm/4,200 rpm 142Nm/4,200 rpm
Fuel Supply System EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection) EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection) EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection)
Fuel Tank Capacity 42 42 42
Catalytic Converter With With With
1.5 G A/T (w/ Leather)
1.5 G A/T
1.5 G M/T
DIMENSION
Curb Weight Front 640-675 640-675 620-650
Curb Weight Rear 400-435 400-435 400-425
Curb Weight Total 1040-1110 1040-1110 1020-1075
Gross Vehicle Weight 1,520 1,520, 1,485
Overall Length 4300 4300 4300
Overall Width 1700 1700 1700
Overall Height 1460 1460 1460
Wheelbase 2550 2550 2550
Tread Front 1470 1470 1470
Tread Rear 1460 1460 1460
Min. Ground Clearance 150 150 150
Min. Turning Radius 4.9 4.9 4.9
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( L ) ( W ) ( H )
New Vios Dimension.. 4300mmx1700mmx1460mm
PROTON BLM ………… 4257mmx1680mmx1502mm
Honda City……………. 4390mmx1690mmx1485mm
Aveo Notchback…….. .4310mmx1710mmx1496mm
Hyundai Accent 2008…4213mmx1668mmx1448mm
SEE THE DIFFERENT?????
Jeremy Clarkson will once again blow this car to hell!!!!
i heard rumors said its going to be launch on the 11th jan..
that would be erm friday..
zack_keyme988, how can u compare BLM with vios/city/accent?
Those cars are priced at rm68k-rm83k. BLM is priced around rm35-rm42k.
Vios and gang should be compared to Persona instead.
#cecibo said,
December 25, 2007 @ 2:32 am
Jeremy Clarkson will once again blow this car to hell!!!!
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lol. even though i think it’s gonna be a decent car.. i still wanna see it go under Jeremy’s sledgehammer >:-)
it’s just cool.
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tHe CuLpRit said,
December 25, 2007 @ 7:53 am
zack_keyme988, how can u compare BLM with vios/city/accent?
Those cars are priced at rm68k-rm83k. BLM is priced around rm35-rm42k.
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Even without govt protection, the proton BLM would still be cheaper by at least RM15k as the vios/city would cost about RM55k (for teh most basic version).
Well, if you want to talk about govt protection, cheaper price, please go on… I don’t think so it will change anything… what we should take notice is, Proton is trying to give the rite price and the rite car for the people. Priced from 29k-36k is good enuf for this class of car.
what you should take notice is that they could have given that price 20 years ago but they didnt. only now when they are about to go down and VW have forsaken them then they decide to price it normally.
ezralimm said,
December 25, 2007 @ 9:11 am
Even without govt protection, the proton BLM would still be cheaper by at least RM15k as the vios/city would cost about RM55k (for teh most basic version).
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Without NAP and greed from Chery QQ distributor, this entry level car can be sale at Bolehland starting from RM 15K, unlike now it is selling more than RM 30K.
topgunthang, you are write, they are “force” to adjust ot this price range in response to full FTAs in 2010. It is a folly by the blind defender said that it is “cheap” in its class. It is not yet the lowest but at least Proton don’t treat consumers as a fool by offer low quality yet relatively high price car.
“you are write” should be read as “you are right”
Now the world is flat, NAP is no longer relevant to stimulate our car industry. Indeed it is actually a tool for cronies and AP king to flourish.
At least Proton now demonstrate that even they are not the world class player. At least it don’t give shit product to the consumer with the launch of this BLM. BLM is a “tectonic shift” from crap-triotic talk to consumer oriented product.
recantly a spotted this car nearby KLCC for commercial shooting. ascotted by police and it can run very fast. the exterior is not bad..better than what we saw in the recent post. well done…when will launch? i think most probably before chinese new year..hehe
The exterior can always be modified at a later time (future facelifts, revisions, at the hands of third party car parts shops or even itchy hands of modifiers such as myself) but the interior and it’s final spec sheet will tell the whole story.
I’m not exactly a fan of the Savvy’s interior but since this is a car for the masses, one should not be too picky about it. Build quality and Q.C are what I’m most interested in. That will determine if Proton takes us consumers seriously. If so, then bravo Proton but if not, I hope they close up shop and learn from the industry’s big boys before attempting car manufacturing again.
mcm Hyundai Accent yang berlabel motor RX-S tu. Kalo nak copy, pilih model yg lawa sikit lah!
Do the brake lamps of this Proton BLM remind any of you of the new Nissan Latio sedan’s brake lamps?
If anything, I think they look better than the Latio’s lights.
what a stupid comparison by a basher….vios even with minimal tax cannot cost below 50k okay …how can u compare it against BLM ? and people buy savvy in thailand because it is the cheapest car over there but still it is cost 40k over there…Do toyota owned perodua pampered u all with low price,refering to viva price, i dont think so . So which dreamland country are u all refering to?
Good things doesnt comes cheap…
So, its just a usual P1…
For those peanut brainer, Price comes first!
Quality, Reliability, and Ergonomics is a must for entry model!
More life would be at risk when these BLM are OTR as its safety are not included(ABS, EBD & BA)…
looks like he wan to show up his new vios.
i admit although i’m a basher but comparison between vios and BLM is not fair. the gap is so huge. they are not from the same segment.
since you bought the new vios y dun compare your new vios with merc e-class. stupid idiot…!
how come the BLM in the pic already got registration number?
can people buy BEFORE it is launched?
hurmmmm marketing wise, big car with price
hurmmmm marketing wise, big car with price less than RM50K, …a good move but i wonder about the fuel consumption, big body aka heavy car with peanut engine…..hurmmmm even my 1995 1.3 iswara very kuat makan minyak. just my 2 cents…..
someone gave a comment on safety features..
it’s good to have all those goodies installed :)
but bear in mind, safe driving is the priority.
too much electronics won’t do any good either, for me lah..
pure driving, pure excitement :)
The front and rear design of this BLM looks decent. The rear resembles the Skoda Octavia – nice and decent. However when viewing it from the side, it kinda looks disproportionate. Pricing wise…well it’s quite reasonable.
Will I get one ? Well…just hope that the Campro 1.3 doesn’t disappoint us. I drove the Gen 2 1.3A and it was bloody sluggish and a fuel guzzler.
agree wit u farghmee..safety driving is more important above all..all those features are only technologies to assist us…even if ur driving a volvo but ur driving like hell, ur life aint going to be guaranteed either..
i like the exterior design of the new saga..interior wise, i prefer savvy’s dashboard and center console design compared to other proton models(minus the yellow odometer)..more to european style ..and not lotus wannabe..
looking forward to the launching..
no bad… except for the C pillar is too thick and rear wheels are located too front not matching the overall outlook of the car…
Boleh makan la ini kereta… for something that would cost below RM40k, it’s ok ok la… Only wish that the front wheel not too up front n the grill design be more daring. But it’s family car so it’s ok to look demure. Kinda reminds me of Honda City which I don really like but as long as quality is good inside n outside, I’ll be more than happy to purchase it n park it next to my kancil…. ha ha ha… keep it up u guys…
Stop bashing here.
If you like, you BUY.If you don’t like DON’T BUY.
To me is a GOOD effort from Proton to launch this BLM after more than 20 years SAGA on our road.
If your equipped with ABD,EBD,BA,VSA and etc, if you drive like hell you will end up in a COFFIN!
Example is the new SL 350 totally crashed at Jalan Tun Razak middle this year.Driver is dead.
rollo said,
December 24, 2007 @ 7:07 am
I can’t believe so many people actually LIKE this atrocity. It’s like a really malformed Hyundai Accent. It looks really horrible. If enough people in Malaysia like it, then fine it might sell in Malaysia, but this really doesn’t stand a chance in markets like the UK where Proton has a bad reputation anyway and is going backwards. Something looking like this can only accelerate that trend.
–malaysian taste or should i say asian taste is different. just like rover, ford, renault can’t stand a chance to compete with other japanese makes. mate, one man’s meat, another man’s poison. u don’t know this? hahaha.
You guys/gals gonna luv this. From what I gather (very reliable sources), the starting price would be below RM29k.How about that?
PTAllTheBest said,
December 26, 2007 @ 3:00 am
looks like he wan to show up his new vios.
i admit although i’m a basher but comparison between vios and BLM is not fair. the gap is so huge. they are not from the same segment.
since you bought the new vios y dun compare your new vios with merc e-class. stupid idiot…!
–my friend, this car is the same segment as vios, city or accent. b-segment. the only difference is the car price and engine capacity. the huge gap is the price and the technology may be. do u know it or not? hahahaha. see the real car for urself and find out more, this car is a joint effort with hyundai. similarity to accent or rio.
this car is quite alright and date of launching might be on 11 january. the overall car is similar to chevy aveo notchback in terms of looks and size which i do like it. thinking of buying as a weekend car. the interior looks better than persona from my point of view. selling price around 35k can consider the cheapest in malaysia market.
what an ugly piece of shit. look like a bastard offspring of Waja and Gen2! if this model is a major part of Proton’s recovery plan, the money is better off spend on flood relief and building Hindu temples.
terracottaz said,
December 26, 2007 @ 11:42 am
Stop bashing here.
If you like, you BUY.If you don’t like DON’T BUY.
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This shall apply to those supporter, stop the praise as well?
Buy or not buy? I don’t think it is so simplilistic as that.
tec96248 said,
December 26, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
–my friend, this car is the same segment as vios, city or accent. b-segment. the only difference is the car price and engine capacity. the huge gap is the price and the technology may be. do u know it or not? hahahaha. see the real car for urself and find out more, this car is a joint effort with hyundai. similarity to accent or rio.
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This is technically correct statement. Price wise, BLM is lower than City or Vios in this crap-NAP prices.
i heard from one of Group purchasing manager(proton).
this car will use acicikai (if i not mistake) gaer box. Nissan also use this gear box.
i already test this car a few month ago.
still comfort for 5 person.
interrior like saga (keter kebal). audio from clarion.
design by LG, thats why u looks like koreans car.
Amazing PROTON is the malaysian car manufacturer & the only car manufacturer in the world that making the most advance, high tech, sophisticated POST BOX. I’m gonna buy it & put it on my front gate permanently (glue the tyre) lower down the window a bit, so the postman can slide in my letters, bills, postcard and easily he can open the door or the boot so that he can insert the bigger, heavier parcell & at the night i can simply lock my post box only from my house using a remote so that nobody is gonna have a chance to steal any of my letters….BRILLIANT!!!!
cecibo said,
December 26, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
Amazing PROTON is the malaysian car manufacturer & the only car manufacturer in the world that making the most advance, high tech, sophisticated POST BOX.
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apa merapu punya orang.. it doesnt look anything like a postbox. konfius lah
Amazing PROTON is the malaysian car manufacturer & the only car manufacturer in the world that making the most advance, high tech, sophisticated POST BOX.
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It doesn’t looks anything like a post box pun
cecibo said,
December 26, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
Amazing PROTON is the malaysian car manufacturer & the only car manufacturer in the world that making the most advance, high tech, sophisticated POST BOX
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hello friend!! my advise ::: plz look back what u have done for you country:: if u got so much money u can buy it as a “post box”::people from lower income range with big family will really appreciate this car and their developer:: orang kampung which don’t have stable income also like this car::what type of car is perfect??:: GOOD JOB PROTON, CONGRATULATION
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deepthroat said,
December 26, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
what an ugly piece of shit. look like a bastard offspring of Waja and Gen2! if this model is a major part of Proton’s recovery plan, the money is better off spend on flood relief and building Hindu temples.
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but other people like it::
Well the BLM has a ‘love it or hate it’ look about it. Some like, others despise it.
I guess looks is in the eyes of the beholder.
I didn’t say i looks like a post box, but if i buy it, it would be!!!
it’s the car design by a man with no passion, no sense of style, ugly, hideous, it’s rubbish!!! same with a man who design the proton logo who’s just inspired by joining the kids at saturday evening in front of a tv and watching THUNDERCATS then came out the idea and loudly shout EUREKA!!!!!
!!!! to many monkey in the PT.org now…
ezralimm said,
December 25, 2007 @ 9:11 am
Even without govt protection, the proton BLM would still be cheaper by at least RM15k as the vios/city would cost about RM55k (for teh most basic version).
–u might be right that the price maybe cost about rm55k, if without NAP. but then we can also look at those most consumer willing or able to spend on cars nowadays. best selling car myvi is about rm50k, somemore is a small b-segment car or vios is selling better than waja. it might affect the whole market sales if the nap don’t exist. that’s reason why nap still exist, eventhough proton still hv the cheapest car on the market. with NAP or without NAP, quality and low maintenance is more important. true?
its a design to maximise cabin space on smaller car,
same practice goes to aveo sedan, polo sedan, some smaller honda sedan,
those to have that kind of propotion, anyway still this blm doesnt looks too bad,
can never expect the beauty of a bigger car design like waja or persona because the size, it can be designed to have a nicely propotioned body,
or still can make beauty or sporty can be acheived but a little bit sacrifice of certain aspect (but within an acceptable measure) like neo or gen2 , hence it is solid with ‘fast’ look,
but i belive this car will look nice for it purpose,
cecibo said,
December 26, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
I didn’t say i looks like a post box, but if i buy it, it would be!!!
it’s the car design by a man with no passion, no sense of style, ugly, hideous, it’s rubbish!!! same with a man who design the proton logo who’s just inspired by joining the kids at saturday evening in front of a tv and watching THUNDERCATS then came out the idea and loudly shout EUREKA!!!!!
–u hate proton??? or u don’t like this BLM? hahaha, the logo indeed like the the cartoon series thundercats,
If i am the owner of toyota.. i will said :
“I will never ever lower down my product price for you malaysian!.
as much as i can make money .. that would be better..
WTH giving face to malaysian a cheap car?.. i’ll compromi with honda, nissan, even BMW nd MERZ .. = dont lower down your price.. stick to death current price… Proton not exist anymore, no NAP too.. why must we scare? As long as we can took billions USD from malaysian pe year, that’s good for our country! (japan).”..
So.. the question is :
“Do you really sure you can get that cheap car”, do you think toyota owner / share holder will give a face for you? Do you?
Well.. bigfish dont had to asnwer this question.. he is already toyota salesmen..
proton.GL.. said,
December 26, 2007 @ 5:59 pm
the car looks better than the persona i personally. interior or exterior looks more acceptable.
bmpower said,
December 26, 2007 @ 6:01 pm
–hmm, if i will the toyota owner, i will think of it why to maintain a price to limited customers? i will think of a possible way to make more money from smallest to biggest car. it can take away more money back to the country (JAPAN). that’s reason, introduced vios, smaller than corolla, introduced lexus. sharing platforms, joint ventures, businesses in dahaitsu, perodua, scion, now also with subaru. to capture all markets shares, now the group of companies making it to the top in malaysia, thailand and the world. my friend, u know or don’t know these industries?? hahahaha.
i think we should wait to see it on the road personally. IMO the tiida/latio looks terrible in pictures but in real life looks decent.
It seems proton is gonna be marketing a budget sedan. Under RM30k OTR for a car with this dimensions and displacement is very reasonable by any standard. It’s a sedan – not a micro car like the QQ or 1lakh Tata.
I dont think it would be as much of a car as it’s more pricier* rivals, but it will provide a viable alternative to buying a Kancil for families with about RM30k to spend on a car.
If proton can pull this off with decent bulid and QC. I think it has a winner. Considering this car hasnt been released, this blog post alone has generated more than 150 replies.
*pricier even without NAP. includes the vios/city (RM55k+), jazz, latio/tiida.
wow… very nice car… congrate P!
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BigFish said,
December 26, 2007 @ 1:22 pm
tec96248 said,
December 26, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
–my friend, this car is the same segment as vios, city or accent. b-segment. the only difference is the car price and engine capacity. the huge gap is the price and the technology may be. do u know it or not? hahahaha. see the real car for urself and find out more, this car is a joint effort with hyundai. similarity to accent or rio.
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This is technically correct statement. Price wise, BLM is lower than City or Vios in this crap-NAP prices.
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Hermmmm………
Vios E in Langkawi RM55K
Look like Big Fish have a problem with NAP
If Big Fish want a cheap car,, come and stay here in langkawi.. you can even get Mazda 3 1.6 sedan for 55K
if Big Fish want cheapest car here, Get Cerry QQ for 18K
http://images.paultan.org/images/December_Proton_BLM_1_Large.jpg
previous image from paul’s RRAI,
the blm is actually id say look somewhat balanced in propotion,
http://images.paultan.org/images/December_Proton_BLM_1.jpg
from previous PTRRAI
id say the car somewhat looks balanced in propotion,
Keep it up Proton.
bmpower said,
December 26, 2007 @ 6:01 pm
Well.. bigfish dont had to asnwer this question.. he is already toyota salesmen..
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I am not wasting my time on this Protonomics argument!
MrDDR said,
December 26, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
if Big Fish want cheapest car here, Get Cerry QQ for 18K
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Dude, by 2010, I don’t need to Langkawi to get that prices since FTAs will canibalize NAP …………….. welcome free market that guarantee consumers right to better quality at lower price that is value for monies. NAP=Protonomics …………… poorahhhhhhhhhhh …..
ezralimm said,
December 26, 2007 @ 6:21 pm
*pricier even without NAP. includes the vios/city (RM55k+), jazz, latio/tiida.
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With NAP, the Waja purchased by me in peninsular at RM 64K
Without NAP, the same car are selling at RM 38K (Langkawi).
So, NAP suck my hard earn monies at RM 26K yet get lousy power window, door handle, absorber, etc.
So NAP give problem to me, not like someone blind defender claim I have problem with NAP.
non sequitur.
i leave it to the discretion of other readers.
more of bigfish’s comments could be read at:
http://paultan.org/stats/?stats_author=BigFish
NO FIGHTING PLEASE…
BMpower….you need to look at other international markets. particulalrly free ones. toyota, honda will fight for market share through price wars.
it is more likely that proton set a very lousy standard being lousy but expensive to buy and maintain. and therefore toyota or honda or whoever else can price themselves at thier current rate since they have no need to engage in intensive price wars. since all the bargain hunters will head for proton. (more like being forced). in other markets, toyota and honda do and provide budget entry cars. the jazz or yaris are a few examples for students or budget minded people. competition at the corolla level and yaris level is intense therefore lowering the price for all consumers
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in malaysia there is no need to have price wars since they(budget cars like jazz and yaris) are already taxed out of the equation (out of range of bargain hunters and into a higher market segment where competition is not so intense). therefore proton has the power to set thier price as well as thier standard of a bread and butter car.
the standard for bread and butter cars should be set at the corolla level where most of the competition is.
sure u might get some chinese or indian cars arriving. but almost everyone will avoid it like the ebola virus for 20 years. so it is irrelevent in the near future.
tiida is so ugly that it is a certain failure.
IkanKepalaBesar,
Lu salesman Toyopet pegi main jauh2 laaa…You always jealous with Proton punya achievements.Bising2 pasal NAP.I know you never gonna give a damn about it coz you only think about comission only maaa!!!! You represents outside punya brand lagi mau bising even though you a Malaysian! Ini olang talak boleh pakai punya to boost our automotive industries.You pegi cari customer kasi tipu tambah rm1800 for lau-ya punya tinted!!!
alah..
keta import pon..
kalau driver tu driving like HELL..
x jaga maintainance…
nak servis pon malas…
sebijik FERRARI ENZO pon boleh barai…
BMW X5 pon ade power window problem…
my mom HONDA CITY VTEC pon ade door problem..++++++++ accident ckit dah teruk remuk…
baru nk reverse terlanggar tembok dah hancus bamper ngn bonet belakang..LESS THAN 20KMH ya…. bonet system jem terus…
nak repair beribu… sparepart lambat…
HONDA..gah pada nama ja…
reverse camtu pun dah hancur..
nak kata PROTON..HONda pon same jew…
ma frend punyer all-new vios ( yang depan cam DOGONG tu )..
baru beli 3 minggu…
dah ade problem ngn ABS n brek system…
brek x brapa makan.. CIKAI LO……
hahahahah… TOYOTA..Moving Forward (reverse)…
MY PERSONA……..still no problem untill now…. MY PRIDE N JOY…
NOTHING CAN BEAT MY PERSONA..NEITHER VIOS SIAL OR CITY CIKAI..
ahahahahhahahahahahahha…….
zack_keyme988 said,
December 27, 2007 @ 1:22 am
NOTHING CAN BEAT MY PERSONA..NEITHER VIOS SIAL OR CITY CIKAI..
ahahahahhahahahahahahha……
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Hmm satisfied already ah?
#BigFish said,
December 26, 2007 @ 10:23 pm
bmpower said,
December 26, 2007 @ 6:01 pm
Well.. bigfish dont had to asnwer this question.. he is already toyota salesmen..
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I am not wasting my time on this Protonomics argument!
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So now.. wth are you think you are to label people? that one protonomic, that one blind basher, that one too much patriotic?..
What if :
BigFish = You’re Toyotaics, Japanamics, BigHeadednomics?
Do you like to be called like that? Do you?..
Deal…., in the past years ago.. you can bash everything about proton.. but not laterly. I saw too many improvement they do.. They deserved it. I was try to be fair in my opinion.. but when there’s too much bashers.. i turn to be bit patriotic (or what ever you wanted to say)..
AT LEAST.. PROTON ITSELF HAS MADE/PROTECT BILLION RM (since 20 years ago) NOT GONE TO THE JAPAN/OTHER COUNTRY ‘JUST LIKE THAT’.
It keep or saving a bit for our country fundamental to going strong in the way of some people might not see it.. but it does!. Not for the selfish those begging for cheap car, cheap car..
I repeat.. IF you are the Toyota CEO,
“Do you will reduce all your car price because proton and NAP is no more? Do You? ”
*To answer this.. please! think like a CEO.. not like Big Head but No Brain!
SATISFY WITH MY PERSONA…
220 AT HI-WAY..
NO PROBLEM….
MY MOM CITY VTEC…
PECUT 185 JE.. DAH SEMPUT..
LOOSER PUNYER VTEC…
BUANG LAM LONGKANG JEW..
TUKAR KE..
THE ALL NEWHONDA CITY CAMPRO..
HAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
topgunthang.
Thanks.. that was good from another view..
as bread and butter itself had different brand too ..
if it was proton in 90’s. i can’t agree more with you.
but in current situation, for me.. proton was in good and right direction.
im not only talking ‘what is the best sport car i can own.’ but it was about…
how much later proton can bring money from foreign country to malaysia (as toyota,honda etc brought to japan). Rich country, good economy county = good for their people/citizen.. Poor country? = well.. judge on your own-lah
anyway.. that was a history(rumors?) about Japan WW2 General quote :
“If we(japan) can’t conquerer Asia in 100 days, we will conquer it in 100 years”. – World War 2 vs a masterplan beyond imagination!
Yes.. Japan is great.. all over the world they can get the money.. Sony, Panasonic etc etc .. ahh.. to many to list… Well.. they do success for now…
let’s please stop the arguement starting from this comment onwards… headache
cecibo said,
December 26, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
I didn’t say i looks like a post box, but if i buy it, it would be!!!
it’s the car design by a man with no passion, no sense of style, ugly, hideous, it’s rubbish!!! same with a man who design the proton logo who’s just inspired by joining the kids at saturday evening in front of a tv and watching THUNDERCATS then came out the idea and loudly shout EUREKA!!!!!
— can u please redesign new logo and show us ?? can or not?
BigFish… go to swim la.. main jauh2..
critics only… called people protonomics la… ape la..
why are you so scare this tiger(proton)…??
I read this article in this morning @ Utusan Malaysia..
Pada Oktober, Proton berjaya mencatat jualan sebanyak 13,226 buah kenderaan pelbagai modelnya. Ia merupakan bulan tertinggi catatan jualannya sejak Disember 2005 dan merupakan satu peningkatan sebanyak 41 peratus tahun atas tahun.
Angka jualan Proton itu juga hanya sedikit bawah daripada Perodua yang menjual 13,513 buah keretanya. Para penganalisis industri turut merumuskan angka jualan Proton mampu bertahan – jika tidak terus meningkat, untuk beberapa bulan akan datang, khususnya menerusi model yang diterima ramai iaitu Persona, selain pengenalan model pengganti Iswara pada bulan depan.
– they are show the claw..
bmpower said,
December 27, 2007 @ 1:53 am
I repeat.. IF you are the Toyota CEO,
“Do you will reduce all your car price because proton and NAP is no more? Do You? â€
*To answer this.. please! think like a CEO.. not like Big Head but No Brain!
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Under free market in auto sector, no one manufacturer can monopoly the market. Or they can form “cartel” like steel industry to “fix” the price by create superficial shortage.
So, do you get the free economy realistic assumption? Only NAP can lead the auto market to behave as what you said. Enough is being said, Mr. Protonomics!
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cecibo said,
December 26, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
I didn’t say i looks like a post box, but if i buy it, it would be!!!
it’s the car design by a man with no passion, no sense of style, ugly, hideous, it’s rubbish!!! same with a man who design the proton logo who’s just inspired by joining the kids at saturday evening in front of a tv and watching THUNDERCATS then came out the idea and loudly shout EUREKA!!!!!
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u only can talk:::prove first u better than all proton eng. only u can talk or complaint::
::i’m the one japanese car owner and i bought it in 2006, for me the quality is very low compared to the price::
NAP = the ONLY economic lesson. ROTFL
It is much like peugeot 206 sedan/ Proton Persona with extended boot. The wheel base is too short and looks kind of weird. Overall is good but the car is rather too tall for its size.
ikanbesar/dugong,
stop labelling ppl all the time… we all know you are toyota salesman n a part time toyotromics (toyota economics) lecturer.
proton already done a good job n deserves credit. stop dreaming of cheap cars all the time. it will never happen.
zack_keyme988 said,
December 27, 2007 @ 1:55 am
SATISFY WITH MY PERSONA…
220 AT HI-WAY..
NO PROBLEM….
MY MOM CITY VTEC…
PECUT 185 JE.. DAH SEMPUT..
LOOSER PUNYER VTEC…
BUANG LAM LONGKANG JEW..
TUKAR KE..
THE ALL NEWHONDA CITY CAMPRO..
HAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
–haha, sure your persona can reach 220km/h? proton only it can reach 195km/h. i doubt u r talking nonsense, or during in ur dream that it can reach. hmm………ur persona speedometer had spoilt might be.
kereta baru beberapa bulan sudah rosak speedometer. kesian betul.
hahaha.
everytime Paul starts a new topic on proton…i get excited.
haha.. very interesting comments and views
frankly, proton has really improved lately. quality wise and design wise.. no doubt about it…. they might not be as good as jap car but they have come nearer.
hope malaysian will be proud of Proton again as during 80’s where malaysian wish to have saga not Jap car.
ys said,
December 27, 2007 @ 11:03 am
–agreed with u. and this blm looks better indeed.
wow…i like…front like lancer side by side like merc….good design so far Iswara by Proton…keep up good art!!!
persona design even better then city – like iron, and vios – like kueh bahulu!!
support Malaysian Design!!! now i fall in with Gen 2 or Persona!!
decent exterior.. n good car, still hope P2 will enhance the built quality.. good job P2 staff
indigo said,
December 27, 2007 @ 9:53 am
It is much like peugeot 206 sedan/ Proton Persona with extended boot. The wheel base is too short and looks kind of weird. Overall is good but the car is rather too tall for its size.
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Actually the car high is “OK” to acommodate taller guy, unlike Gen-2 with low roof line, especially backseat. To make smaller car with “bigger” interior but “smaller” external dimension, not only this BLM has “weird” look, but as someone said, Vios like kueh bahulu and City like Cloth Iron. That is the constraint encounter by designer in coming out with small size sedan car.
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carsut said,
December 27, 2007 @ 12:08 pm
decent exterior.. n good car, still hope P2 will enhance the built quality.. good job P2 staff
-P2 or P1… both can la… malaysia boleh….
huhu
wawawawawa……finally,,,p1 has done a great job….now onwards,,plz stop talking nonsense about p1…u/stand the reality,,.persona 220km/h??????so amazing if it is the standard one….
maybe we should call fifthgear crew to prove which one is better….persona or city vtec
or maybe we should call top gear presenter to prove which one is better
Launching Date: 11 January 2008, Proton SAGA, BL RM25-30k, ML RM30-35k
CONFIRMED…
guys,
“let bygone be bygone” :)
yg dulu 2, dulu lah..xsemestinya dulu teruk, skrg masih teruk?
jgn dgr sgt ckp org..
kalu ape yg diorg ckp betul, ko untung, kalu diorg ckp xbetul, ko rugi.
“your $ is yours, my $ isn’t yours, ok?” :)
p/s: aku pnh drive gen2 1.6 auto smpi 170km/h, bes wo~:)
Proton, if you ever read this, please put up a teaser/ mini website as soon as possible, so that we all can see the car in metal and stop the argument.. :D and please please please tell your web designer not to use graphic image/ CGI anymore, becos its so ugly, other websites which use real image of cars look so different.
wow suitable price, can buy one 4 my 2nd car….:-)
mr.lhorat said,
December 27, 2007 @ 3:52 pm
Launching Date: 11 January 2008, Proton SAGA, BL RM25-30k, ML RM30-35k
CONFIRMED…
Brother Bigfish, I think it is silly to fight whether Honda, Toyota is better than Proton. Toyota and Honda are in fact better brands and product than Proton but one don’t need to be ego over this fact. This car will not detriment the sales of the new Vios, so don’t you worry brother. You better worry about Latio.
It is better to discuss whether this car will outsell Myvi and Viva.
I wonder what Syed Hafiz of Perodua is doing now to counter the launch of this new car. 1.5 Myvi perhaps? a 24K 660cc Viva perhaps? Maybe a new Kembara? Or a 7 seater MPV?
He must be thinking if he ever can beat Syed Zainal, the man who spearheaded the Myvi project (which was a major success), and the same man who will detriment Perodua cars sales under his guidance. So what is his achievement at Perodua?
tec96248 said,
December 27, 2007 @ 10:50 am
zack_keyme988 said,
December 27, 2007 @ 1:55 am
SATISFY WITH MY PERSONA…
220 AT HI-WAY..
NO PROBLEM….
MY MOM CITY VTEC…
PECUT 185 JE.. DAH SEMPUT..
LOOSER PUNYER VTEC…
BUANG LAM LONGKANG JEW..
TUKAR KE..
THE ALL NEWHONDA CITY CAMPRO..
HAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
–haha, sure your persona can reach 220km/h? proton only it can reach 195km/h. i doubt u r talking nonsense, or during in ur dream that it can reach. hmm………ur persona speedometer had spoilt might be.
kereta baru beberapa bulan sudah rosak speedometer. kesian betul.
hahaha.
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ade yg still cemburu ngn performance campro…
hmm… no comment la…
org yang sendiri bawk tau la…
VVTi n VTEC tu buknnye bagus sgt pon…
campro is tuned by LOTUS..used in porsche dh teknologi ni..
beli sebijik persona.. bawak sendiri..
BERSYARAT muatan sorg je la…
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jazzer said,
December 27, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
maybe we should call fifthgear crew to prove which one is better….persona or city vtec
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last time fifthgear tested a P1- savvy was with similarly priced hyundai n a french make. ie they know that there’s no point in testing cars in different price leagues with each other. as you might or might not remember, the best car in that test was savvy……
forgot to add…
this was based on UK prices where NAP does not exist. ie free market prices
zack_keyme988 said,
December 27, 2007 @ 5:21 pm
–my goodness please don’t simply talk nonsense. tested the car even before u bought it, or it been started selling. proton website already told what is the maximum speed.
jangan cakap bodoh, kan nanti orang anggap kereta baru beberapa bulan sudah rosak speedometer. mahu support proton pun kena betul. siapa tune pun tak kisah, pasah bukan untuk f1 racing. apa cemburu dgn performance campro? mahu cemburu pun TSI, FSI dan engine yang menang engine award. awak ni amateur ke? hahahahahakakaka
Wah Bigfoot, long time not see you post comment. Anyway agree with your statement, but what I want to stress is in competitive open market, we have to benchmark against the best, or best of the best.
Don’t be jaguh kampong or blind defender. Blind basher no exception.
Wow..this post turned out to be a war. I saw the car near the Penang bridge toll exit heading Butterworth. Police guys stopped it dunno whether becoz it is a new car then they stopped it for viewing.
i never expect monkeys, hang tuah, jet li and polygamy will ever be mentioned in paultan.
i really want to look how proton could sell this car and compete with kia, hyundai,tata outside Malaysia. (Dont compare wiht Honda,Toyota lah.) Then we know the real result. Local here for sure laku punye.
so it depend how good marketing/political team to sell this proton outside.
bravo to tecknical engineer in protoon….there might be some rosak2…but other car brand also have rosak2….tak heran lah rosak2 tuh. :P
this is my first time commenting here..as for the safety features.. this car has a bigger/longer crumple zone than savvy.. since savvy achieved 3.5 star euroNCAP.. this BLM probably can achieve 4 star euroNCAP…the interior is not Savvy-like.. its Neo-like
those who own proton saga now will muntah darah seeing this new baby. ha ha ha ha.
Not only owner of stone age Saga model but new car who bought it at RM 26,999.00 will “muntah-muntah” when see the BLM. But as what Proton claimed in conjunction with 50 year Merdeka celebration, they will find out their 2nd value will nose dive once BLM is launch in the market next month.
:)
I will definitely get one for my gf :) and i will still drive my own Myvi :)
Max88 said,
This one by RPK shall be suitable for you to post your comments: –
http://malaysia-today.net/2008/
KepalaFlowerHorn,
You always jealous, why arr?
Cannot see people senang ka?
Sour grape for Proton achievements..non stop bashing.
You go sit down and counting how many dugongs/kueh bahulu u sold today laa..
If you think your toyopet is better then keep quiet and promote your dugongs/kueh bahulu..
If you don’t want to support our local cars then shut up and think how to make your toyopet spare parts cheap…
Kepala saja besar tapi otak kecik….i feel you man…i feel you….
Hahahahaha!!!!
When basher POINTLESS . The will go wild.. they will hysteria, they will look like possessed .. then they will post anything out of topic.. naming that, naming this.. doing harassment and insulting others.. they had no respect to others at all!
yess.. that was they are..
Anyway… There was a standard Neo (with old campro engine – not the re tuned like persona) can reach top speed 190Kmh (but the driver not enough brave to go more than that). Go google yourself or search more.
So i had no doubt if enough brave one can push harder to 220kmh.. yess.. surely you need a good road too..
Japanese car quality is no doubt better than proton. If there is anyone disagree then he may not understand what is the meaning of QUALITY. You cannot mix quality with performance, it is different aspect.
My Gen2 have few quality problem at door, exhaust and noisy sound but I satisfy with its performance. The car was still stable when I drive at 190km/h and it still can be faster (Berhati-hati di jalan raya) and I never modify my car. Honestly I buy it because of low down payment and I can’t afford to pay high d/p for other brand car.
No one can force you to buy their car it is either you afford or not.
If you are buying a 1300cc car please do not have big hope for the performance (unless you modify it).
If you are buying a proton car, please do not have big hope for the quality (unless you are lucky).
If you are buying a Proton Saga, please do not have big hope of BOTH (unless there is miracle).
Please do not critic people with rude word, do you happy when people attacking youlike this? This is not a place for you to revenge or expressing your rude mind. Please go to other website.
off topic:
a 1995 honda civic 1.6 (without any modification) can go 210kmh on PLUS highway, i tried before……..
don’t like it, then DON”T buy, DON’T try, DON’T see, just dig out your eyeballs, very simple…..
if you’re a Malaysian, then just act like one…….
not happy? migrate lah, no big deal…….
Do you think most of the people buy proton because they like it? If Honda Jazz cheaper than Myvi, WHO WILL BUY MYVI? You? What are you talking about don’t like don’t buy?
if Jazz cheaper than Myvi, people will still buying Myvi, but of course buyers will reduce….. and for the same amount of money, u can get plenty of used cars in good condition…….do u buy City just because u cant afford Jazz? or do u buy Vios just because u cant afford Yaris?
will u buy a Ferrari if its cheaper than a Porsche when u can actually afford both at the same time?
don’t like it, then DON’T buy….. understand?
no one is forcing anyone to buy Proton or Perodua……
I plan to buy a new/used car. bosan naik moto hari-hari.
Wah so many blind defenders carry out personal attack!
What is the relationship between don’t like a car and migration? People migrate for economic or otehr reason, but to migrate just because of don’t like car, then it is the most oxymoron thing.
BigFish, they are not mean to u la… thats for Max88…
i just wonder why suddenly why this topic is no more about car but about politics, personal attack…
hey guys,.. relax and stay on track
we are commenting about new coming proton car..
not about monkey, buy or no buy…
hate it when u all start to critic others.
mitlanevo said,
December 28, 2007 @ 1:05 am
off topic:
a 1995 honda civic 1.6 (without any modification) can go 210kmh on PLUS highway, i tried before……..
don’t like it, then DONâ€T buy, DON’T try, DON’T see, just dig out your eyeballs, very simple…..
if you’re a Malaysian, then just act like one…….
not happy? migrate lah, no big deal…….
–hahaha, driving down the hill of course can reach higher speed. even an old nissan sunny 130y carb engine can reach more than 180km/h.
i believe u have dig out many times of ur eyeball, because sure there’s lots of things u don’t like to see. hahahaha……
what the hell of migrating if not happy? our former prime minister mentioned before lots of smart people is leaving the country. somemore u asked people to leave, then left those bunch of idiot people behind? maybe u r the one. disgracing the malaysian.
just hate people talking about migrating, spoiling the fun of automotives.
mitlanevo said,
December 28, 2007 @ 2:18 am
if Jazz cheaper than Myvi, people will still buying Myvi, but of course buyers will reduce….. and for the same amount of money, u can get plenty of used cars in good condition…….do u buy City just because u cant afford Jazz? or do u buy Vios just because u cant afford Yaris?
will u buy a Ferrari if its cheaper than a Porsche when u can actually afford both at the same time?
don’t like it, then DON’T buy….. understand?
no one is forcing anyone to buy Proton or Perodua……
–kid, learn more history, history of automotives. true, no one is forcing anyone to buy proton or perodua, but policies can drive people to a certain market niche. that’s reason why bigfish has been strongly stressed out all this while.
i heard some sources said that, the new proton BLM new car will come with NGV tank because the proton knows how thirsty is the car. if this car can sell below 35k and NGV tank included, i think this car can sell well….but hope petronas build more NGV station before BLM sell well, if not we need to fight with taxi driver everyday…
This BLM will come with pretensioner seat belt…
guys, what is pretensioner seat belt?
walaweiii…
mcm perang pula…
pe pun bila PS dah ada kat showroom…
lets test drive n buy if effort to buy…
but i target if this car price RM35 to 45, i to get one fr my 2nd wife
opssss second car….peace all!!!!
#leongylun said,
December 28, 2007 @ 9:25 am
i heard some sources said that, the new proton BLM new car will come with NGV tank because the proton knows how thirsty is the car. if this car can sell below 35k and NGV tank included, i think this car can sell well….but hope petronas build more NGV station before BLM sell well, if not we need to fight with taxi driver everyday…
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Where is your source? Mind to quote or paste the url? .
If this car equipt with VIM for better fc, i think that was good.
Cheap car is suitable for taxi in malaysia.. i think many taxi will tradein for this new BLM. Perhaps.. Proton can do deal with all taxis company in klang valley.
Public transport not paying any tax duty.
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Technical wise.
Carburetor in powerful than fuel injection (unless the ecu got better calculation). As known , carburetor is thirsty . The more faster/aggresive you drive, means more and faster fuel s*cked. But the tech is going on..
Anyway.. Fuel Injection at the first place is for fuel saving.
soory…i dun have url…i also not sure. hope can seek confirmation from here.
but according to malaysia goverment rules, all taxis must at least 1500cc and above. so u won’t see proton 1.3 taxi on the road. either they are proton iswara 1.5, nissan sentral 1.6 or waja 1.6. now the taxi companies are encouraged to change their model to persona because cheaper than waja.
leongylun,
There will be BLM 1.6 Campro IAFM with NGV to cater for taxi drivers and not because the BLM 1.3 Campro IAFM fuel guzzler.
Pls get ur fact right first and dont simply listen to rumours! TQ.
theking,
soor for my information if it leads to misunderstanding and confusions, however, rumour is rumour as long as how u look at it.
#BigFish said,
December 28, 2007 @ 8:19 am
Wah so many blind defenders carry out personal attack!
What is the relationship between don’t like a car and migration? People migrate for economic or otehr reason, but to migrate just because of don’t like car, then it is the most oxymoron thing.
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The high price, or _percieved_ high price, is _one_ of the reasons why people migrate. the core reasons for migration is better pay and job availability overseas. proton makes reasonably priced, albeit lower tech, cars. But i guess if you worked overseas in a first world country, any car, will be three times more affordable than in malaysia due to the higher salary to begin with.
It’s best to ignore personal attacks. Responding will start a flame war.
Are we still discussing the thread’s topics or are we trying to show off one’s ‘intelligence’ by lowering others?
Come on guys… we are all adults here.Be responsible with your posting
If you are not sure of your source of data/info,better make sure u post it in that manner.Don’t simply post it as a statement.You are inviting people to ‘tembak’ you
Why lower yourself by calling other monkeys,oxymoron etc..etc? We are all here for info and once a while,post some constructive comments be it a negative or positive ones. One should not think themselves as better than others
Rasicm,politics,personal attacks – you’re out!You are not wanted here!
Max88 – I don’t think you appreciate what u have here in Malaysia.Sure we have problems that needs to be ironed out but if you are so disgusted,migration is an option. Your opinion burns out more people than good.Smart-ass is not wanted here
BigFish – Your comments are welcome here eventhough sometimes can be quite pedas and spot on but that is what it should be.Just let us tone down the personal attacks shall we?It goes to others
We are living in a multicultural society here in Malaysia and there will be be some idiot trying to disrupt the harmony by mouthing extreme opinions and thought without thinking of others.I’m tired of all these….. I don’t want 1969 to occurs again!
My personal opinion on BLM :
It’s decent and simple and for the price range of RM29k – below RM40k,it’s a good bargain.Let’s wait to see the quality issues
Beauty is subjective.I might like it but you don’t.Fine.I can live with it. No problemo.
The car design lately has become saturated and most of the time,new cars will have the tendency to have some ques from other cars.That is normal. To have an extra ordinary design,well that is the job for the big players since they have the money and market to do it.Proton?I don’t think they have enough market volume to justify the cost.I believe and sure Proton have talented engineers to produce top class cars but cost and market volume plays the bigger constraint
RM29k also too expensive ka?Haiya….bikin kereta sindiri maa…
Auto industries is the most lowest return of profits compared to the cost compared to other industries
If one needs praise for the effort,I’ll be glad to give it.If it needs critical comments,I won’t hold anything back.As long as it progresses,it’s good enough for me
aj3377 said,
November 27, 2007 @ 11:53 am
Oleh kerna ada permintaan nk tahu interior blm ni, saya jelaskan. Steering, aircon blower, inter door handle mcm Savvy, meter dia pun sama mcm Savvy cuma roundnya warna crom. Dashboard sebelah penumpang depan ada tissue holder mcm Savvy.Ada glove box. Ada 5 cup holder. Gear manual and auto mcm persona. Single CD 1-Din Player.
N-Line – Manual Saja. Color Solid White only
Bumper depan belakang, Side Mirror Black and meter panel color Hitam. Rim 13 cuma pakai center cap.Tak ada reverse sensor, tak ada airbag, tak pre tensior, speaker 2 dibelakang.Harga Tentative price RM33,+++
Base-Line, sama seperti N-Line cuma tambahan ada manual dan auto. ada 3 color metallic. Bumber depan belakang, side mirror body color. 4 speaker depan belakang. Meter warna crom. Rim14 dgn full cover. Tentative price RM34K – RM37K.
M-Line sama seperti Base Line ada manual n auto, 4 warna, 3 metallic, 1 warna solid white,ada alloy rim size 14.Single airbag, ada pre tensioner seatbelt, vanity mirror, elec door mirror, door handle body color, garnish warna hitam. Tentative price RM37K – RM39K.
Logo Proton atau emblem skrg sudah berubah dari segi warna.Tiada lagi warna orange pd kepala harimau. Sudah ditukar kepada warna crom.
Gambar interior sy minta maaf tak boleh pamir. Sy tak blh menjangkau jauh dari penerangan yg boleh sy jelaskan.Harap ini dapat membantu kawan2 yang ingin mengetahuinya. Qualiti, sy boleh kata, klu yang kata persona dh improved quality, blm ini lebih lagi. Thks.
aj3377 said,
November 27, 2007 @ 11:53 am
Heres sumore infos…
Akan dilancarkan insyaallah pada hari jumaat 11 Januari 08. Comfortable, Affortable, Practical and Simply Design.Length 4257, width 1680, High 1502. High dan width kurang dari Myvi skit je….Saiz Luggage compartment 413Ltr. Full tank 40lts.Engine redesigned Campro IAFM, maksudnya ada sistem tambahan iaitu Intake Air Fuel Module.
Ada 6 colour. 2 solid color iaitu putih dan merah. 5 colour metallic iaitu, Genetic Silver, Mountain Blue, Zircon Green, Tranquility Black, Grey. Ada 3 Variant model, N-Line ni lowest spec, Base-Line and Medium Line. N-Line cuma manual saja dan ada satu color solid white je.Base-Line dan medium-line ada manual n auto.N-Line 175/70 Rim13 dan center cap, Base line 185/60 rim14 full cover dan Medium Rim14 alloy. Saiz 2.6 kali besar dari Viva dan 83% dari Myvi.Maximun power 70/6000 94bhp, Max torque 120/4000. Fuel save giler…. 0.11 sen per km atau 100km 5.5sen per km utk manual dan 6.0sen utk auto per 100km. 3 years or 150km Factory Waranty yang mana datang dulu… Tengoklah dan lihatlah akan perkembangan proton kini…….. ok le… panjang2 nanti u all penat nak membaca lak kan. Saya khabou ini utk tujuan kita smua fikirkanlah, proton sudah berubah, maka inilah hasilnya.Percayalah….tiada niat yang tak baik. Kiranya anda nak keta lain yang sama segment dgn BLM fikirkanlah model ini. . Jika kawan2 ingin maklumat lanjut, khabou le ye….
this blog is getting worst day by day…PAUL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT MAN…please…
Hi all
1st Time Posting here,
I have some question, i think some people thought that they are anyhow force to buy P1 or P2 car due to Our G done something with NAP. I would like to ask, when u decide to buy a proton car, what do you expect from it? do you expect it to as good as the others?When you don have budget to buy a better car should you waste money on buying proton or perodua?money is yours, there is always a choice to make. And This model isnt even officially released yet, don comment so early. People have different taste, people might take new vios as dogong or latio as something and this BLM is awkward. but thats their problem and shouldn’t posting here. Insulting,Politics, and Flaming is unacceptable in place like this. Its no use to insult people if they simply don like this Car. People have different taste but must learn to respect the differences.
Peace.-_-V
Niv, “Tasteless like cheap and plain mineral water” aka BLM is not necessary no big demand. And “Tasty like expensive Brandy” aka Merc is not necessary there is big demand for it for the reason best known to those who make the decision which one to consume.
But to distort the equation of supply and demand under free market by NAP is not good.
BLM pricing wise in the range of RM 30K to RM 40K, it is “self regulatory” pricing in response to dog-eat-dog auto market that shift from protective to open market. At least P1 wake up now with Persona and upcoming BLM, not like “Satria Neo (2 door) and Savvy buat syiok-syiok sendiri”.
My personal view on the spyshot for BLM is the front grill is presentable but the butt see from side view is a little bit “tongek” macam semut api.
ezralimm said,
December 28, 2007 @ 11:09 am
The high price, or _percieved_ high price, is _one_ of the reasons why people migrate. the core reasons for migration is better pay and job availability overseas. proton makes reasonably priced, albeit lower tech, cars. But i guess if you worked overseas in a first world country, any car, will be three times more affordable than in malaysia due to the higher salary to begin with.
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This above statement is “half water tank” applicable. When there is in conjunction with 50 year merdeka sales celebration for stone age Saga at RM 26,999.00. Why there is no migration or those oversea Malaysian make a beeline to return to our country?
Why don’t migrate to remote Papau New Guinea or Africa to joint the jungle tribe that they don’t use monies. They survive on everything that is free in their environment – barter trade? Why go to the Down South?
If your stetement is applicable, the selling of BLM at RM 30K to RM 40K will attract a lot of migration to Malaysia?
If the BLM is launch on 11 Jan 2008, it is just around 2 week from now to see another round of “WWE Wrestlemania fighting”!
Can we fairly say:-
1. Persona creation is in response to Gen-2 “failured” (add butt).
2. BLM creation not only replace Saga, but in response to Savvy “failured” (add butt).
3. Next improvement is in response to Satria Neo “failured” by add butt, elongate the body to add to more door?
4. So alll new product, MPV slate for launch iin 2009. Hope Proton don’t utilize Mits Townbox chassis.
BigFish
I understand what u said, but I mean is When people have a 30-40k budget, they always have a choice on car models, since there is 2nd hand car available in malaysia. for some people 30-50k is like small amount. but its definately quite big for me. need to pay installment for 5 or 9 years. need see budget and also everything going up including petrol.For me I will wait and see…I wont simply buy a car because it’s 30k. If the car doesnt meet my requirement i rather don buy. I rather keep the money for better car.
that what I’m doing now. If BLM released and doesnt look good. then Thats it.
I might just go get a 2nd hand a31 nissan cefiro.
G will always want money from us. if NAP cancelled off, i think another ABC or DCE will come up. mayb they raise road tax or even reduce subsi’ on petrols.
We can’t ran off from any tax in this country. If car cheap mayb petrol expensive. then i rather car expensive.
hehe”
Peace -_-V
Hi Big Fish
u said:
1. Persona creation is in response to Gen-2 “failured†(add butt).
2. BLM creation not only replace Saga, but in response to Savvy “failured†(add butt).
3. Next improvement is in response to Satria Neo “failured†by add butt, elongate the body to add to more door?
4. So alll new product, MPV slate for launch iin 2009. Hope Proton don’t utilize Mits Townbox chassis.
I agree, since you did know that gen2, saga, satria neo(half failure) is a failure. I personally like satria neo (look stylist and suspension is very good)
(drove my bro’s car),
But since this topic is about Proton BLM, we should comment on the car not about What had G done to us on tax and the price shoulnd…(theregoes again)……..
So Cheer up and Sit tight guys,
Only 2 weeks to it’s release. go proton outlet, have a look, if it’s bad just open war there no need shout in here. proton won’t know.
Look at this section: –
http://www.proton.com/about_proton/facts_figures/car_sales.php
Now the “Sleeping IT Department” already wake up and make correction to sales figure for Saga (previously shown “2” only).
Anyway total sales up to Sept 07 is 82,443 units. Average of 9K ++ unit a month. Based on this projection, sales shall be around 110K units by end of Dec 07. That means the overall yearly sales for 2007 is expected not much different from 2006 sales figure at 115,674 units.
If this is the case, then this is the likely scenario (look and compare at the sale figure for respective model for year 2006/07): –
1. The Persona & Saga merdeka sales increase in tandem with decrease for sales for Gen-2, Wira, Waja and Savvy. Previous post also mentioned MyVi sales is “as good as usual”.
2. The launch of BLM shall replace existing Saga sales figure and most likely “eat into” older models as shown in item (1) above, it may even can affect the sales of Persona!
Overall, do BLM will increase the total sales for Proton? Time will be the witness?
Don’t know whether Proton new model(s) will just fight with the older models or turnaround the company fortune?
I sincerely think the addition of Persona and up-coming BLM is not about the response to the “failed” neo and savvy but it is purely trying to recapture the focus Proton has lost for the past years.Before,Proton cars are build and sold based on what they want public to believe.Now they have started to realize that is a crappy way to sell cars.Consumers now are better armed with knowledge
I believe in Malaysia,price and looks to be the-factor.Look at how Myvi and Savvy faired.Although it was not intended to be against each other,laymen will see it that way.Myvi tops due to its more modern and better styling eventhough it is slightly expensive than Savvy and lousy vehicle dynamics BUT as Savvy came out with the Savvy lite,demands for it started to climb up due to lower price.So price and looks is the main priority but each other cannot claim to be the better factor.It depends on what you want at that particular time of buying
Sincerely and guts feeling,I think BLM will sell well PROVIDED no quality issues. Be in mind that this car is to replace old Saga so comparison must be fair and just.
aj3377 said,
November 27, 2007 @ 11:53 am
Oleh kerna ada permintaan nk tahu interior blm ni, saya jelaskan. Steering, aircon blower, inter door handle mcm Savvy, meter dia pun sama mcm Savvy cuma roundnya warna crom. Dashboard sebelah penumpang depan ada tissue holder mcm Savvy.Ada glove box. Ada 5 cup holder. Gear manual and auto mcm persona. Single CD 1-Din Player.
N-Line – Manual Saja. Color Solid White only
Bumper depan belakang, Side Mirror Black and meter panel color Hitam. Rim 13 cuma pakai center cap.Tak ada reverse sensor, tak ada airbag, tak pre tensior, speaker 2 dibelakang.Harga Tentative price RM33,+++
Base-Line, sama seperti N-Line cuma tambahan ada manual dan auto. ada 3 color metallic. Bumber depan belakang, side mirror body color. 4 speaker depan belakang. Meter warna crom. Rim14 dgn full cover. Tentative price RM34K – RM37K.
M-Line sama seperti Base Line ada manual n auto, 4 warna, 3 metallic, 1 warna solid white,ada alloy rim size 14.Single airbag, ada pre tensioner seatbelt, vanity mirror, elec door mirror, door handle body color, garnish warna hitam. Tentative price RM37K – RM39K.
Logo Proton atau emblem skrg sudah berubah dari segi warna.Tiada lagi warna orange pd kepala harimau. Sudah ditukar kepada warna crom.
Gambar interior sy minta maaf tak boleh pamir. Sy tak blh menjangkau jauh dari penerangan yg boleh sy jelaskan.Harap ini dapat membantu kawan2 yang ingin mengetahuinya. Qualiti, sy boleh kata, klu yang kata persona dh improved quality, blm ini lebih lagi. Thks.
aj3377 said,
November 27, 2007 @ 11:53 am
Heres sumore infos…
Akan dilancarkan insyaallah pada hari jumaat 11 Januari 08. Comfortable, Affortable, Practical and Simply Design.Length 4257, width 1680, High 1502. High dan width kurang dari Myvi skit je….Saiz Luggage compartment 413Ltr. Full tank 40lts.Engine redesigned Campro IAFM, maksudnya ada sistem tambahan iaitu Intake Air Fuel Module.
Ada 6 colour. 2 solid color iaitu putih dan merah. 5 colour metallic iaitu, Genetic Silver, Mountain Blue, Zircon Green, Tranquility Black, Grey. Ada 3 Variant model, N-Line ni lowest spec, Base-Line and Medium Line. N-Line cuma manual saja dan ada satu color solid white je.Base-Line dan medium-line ada manual n auto.N-Line 175/70 Rim13 dan center cap, Base line 185/60 rim14 full cover dan Medium Rim14 alloy. Saiz 2.6 kali besar dari Viva dan 83% dari Myvi.Maximun power 70/6000 94bhp, Max torque 120/4000. Fuel save giler…. 0.11 sen per km atau 100km 5.5sen per km utk manual dan 6.0sen utk auto per 100km. 3 years or 150km Factory Waranty yang mana datang dulu… Tengoklah dan lihatlah akan perkembangan proton kini…….. ok le… panjang2 nanti u all penat nak membaca lak kan. Saya khabou ini utk tujuan kita smua fikirkanlah, proton sudah berubah, maka inilah hasilnya.Percayalah….tiada niat yang tak baik. Kiranya anda nak keta lain yang sama segment dgn BLM fikirkanlah model ini. . Jika kawan2 ingin maklumat lanjut, khabou le ye….
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cam copy dari guys4men tu je…..aj3377
hmm…
hello, i’m new here. i’m getting my first car but i don’t know why it’s taking me like forever to decide on which car to buy. my budget is less than 40k, definitely not the new myvi cos it’s too expensive. and i want a low fuel consumption car since the G’s gonna raise the price sooner or later.. i also want a car with safety features like seatbelts at the back or airbags. but i can settle for 2nd hand myvi. i also like this new proton car cos it’s around my budget and i think its a good car. but good thing about perodua is, maintenance is still lower than the protons.
so, any of u thinking of selling ur myvi and get this new proton car, let me know ok? hehehe.. do u think the perodua is gonna give more discounts next year after the release of this BLM ? any perodua ppl here??
i seriously don’t know how this forum works, but tadik i dah post a comment tgk2 dia tak keluar!! demmit!
but nway, i’ve been reading all the comments for these past few days. actually i’m getting my first car but its taking me like forever to decide on which car to buy. my budget is less than 40k and definitely not the myvi. i also want the low fuel consumption car sinc the G’s gonna raise the fuel price sooner or later. i also want a safe car that has seatbelts at the back and the airbags. but i think car with airbags must be too pricey for me :) i kina like this BLM car. but it’s 1.3 campro and its proton which means servicing and maintaining this car would be more expensive than the perodua cars. do u think the perodua is gonna give mega great discounts next year on their cars after the release of this BLM ? anybody from perodua here?? i think i can settle for 2nd hand myvi. any of u thinking of selling their myvi and get this new BLM ?? pls let me know ok? cheers !!
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#BigFish said,
December 28, 2007 @ 8:19 am
Wah so many blind defenders carry out personal attack!
What is the relationship between don’t like a car and migration? People migrate for economic or otehr reason, but to migrate just because of don’t like car, then it is the most oxymoron thing.
ezralimm said,
December 28, 2007 @ 11:09 am
The high price, or _percieved_ high price, is _one_ of the reasons why people migrate. the core reasons for migration is better pay and job availability overseas. proton makes reasonably priced, albeit lower tech, cars. But i guess if you worked overseas in a first world country, any car, will be three times more affordable than in malaysia due to the higher salary to begin with.
It’s best to ignore personal attacks. Responding will start a flame war.
BigFish said,
December 28, 2007 @ 12:29 pm
This above statement is “half water tank†applicable. When there is in conjunction with 50 year merdeka sales celebration for stone age Saga at RM 26,999.00. Why there is no migration or those oversea Malaysian make a beeline to return to our country?
Why don’t migrate to remote Papau New Guinea or Africa to joint the jungle tribe that they don’t use monies. They survive on everything that is free in their environment – barter trade? Why go to the Down South?
If your stetement is applicable, the selling of BLM at RM 30K to RM 40K will attract a lot of migration to Malaysia?
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I simply mentioned what is already well known public sentiment. Read up on relevant threads at forum.lowyat.net/RealWorldIssues.
I dont need to explain why his last two paragraphs are non-sequitur
I’ll ignore the heated rhetoric and ad-hominem (personal attack) arguments used.
BigFish, criticism is welcome, but if you want people to respect your opinions, you will have to improve the quality of your arguments. Avoid __retorting__ with simple logic based on overvalued ideas/incidences.
To the other readers of this forum, do read up on his other comments before accepting what he says as truth.
More of BigFish’s comments:
http://paultan.org/stats/?stats_author=BigFish
More of my comments:
http://paultan.org/stats/?stats_author=ezralimm
Headache. Comments not directly related to the Proton BLM will be deleted from here onwards. Yup, that’s right… even those that you argue are related through some obscure far-fetched indirect relation.
my sister want one,
i say get that cheapest base one,
dont put alloy just leave it with plastic wheel cap, if got money find low resistance rolling tyre,
Headache? Cyber Panadol to cheer you up!
proton.GL, better ask your sister “waite and see” first. Let other buy and see their feedback. This BLM with “ultra-low” price by Proton standard, I wonder it may have quality issues.
Guys… what is pre tensioner seatbelt….??
cheap price low quality issue acceptable BUT
expensive price and low quality issue wth!!!!????
some people so called Malaysian never learn to support our local cars..always proud with Kiichiro car…
Proton sell cheap cars for low-mid budget family or as their 1st car…dont expect people to buy Kiichiro car then have to face with expensive spare parts..
Don’t be sellfish by thinking u got money and can show off with expensive..think about low budget people laa…
REMEMBER THAT KIICHIRO CAR CAN NEVER CHALLENGE PROTON PRICE!
Someone think BLM indicative price is the lowest in the world in its class. This must be self-centre view.
All the time I own Proton car, yet I admire other brand for their safety and build quality.
Since it share platform with sedan with savvy… would it be tough like savvy… and the price is definitly yummy… just hope the quality not “hangat hangat tahi ayam” la… but nothing to hope from a cheap car…
if this priced less then 39K will kill viva, kancil… but still unknown for Myvi
i wonder if they will send this to china like they did to gen2… then it lagi sell like VERY HOT CAKE…
Is the BLM an in-house design or, as commented earlier in this thread, designed by LG? Just curious
Anyway, from the images the BLM looks tidy and its design, although not cutting edge, would do well to stand up against the current crop of new cars entering M’sia.
Another advantage going for the BLM is that it will fill the 30 – 40k small sedan segment void held by the fossilised saga for more than two decades.
Hope the interior and build quality don’t disappoint.
11 Jan 2008 BLM launch, another 2 weeks see-see&look-look what happen to the thread, sure “over-heated” by blind defender & basher alike. Good luck, like then buy, don’t like then don’t buy. Don’t kepoche at PT thread! He, he, …………
So it’s going to be launch in Jan ’08 eh? Strange, I thot I saw a picture in The Star paper today that K.Terengganu gonna have a new meter cab (looks eerily smilar like the BLM). CHeck out for yourself;
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/12/29/nation/19878826&sec=nation
If it’s the BLM, it is weird that the reporter didnt mention anything about this taxi model during the launching….
Those in KT, pls confirm ;-)
1st time forummer, I thot I sent a comment once just now but nowhere to be seen. sigh…
BTW, so this BLM is to be launched in Jan ’08 eh? That’s strange. I saw in The Star paper today that K.Trengganu gonna have new meter taxis and check out the photo, isn’t the front looks eerily similar with the BLM photos which have been flying around in the net? How come the reporter doesn’t mentioned about the taxi car model??
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/12/29/nation/19878826&sec=nation
People in KT, pls confirm yo!
arch747 said,
December 29, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
1st time forummer, I thot I sent a comment once just now but nowhere to be seen. sigh…
BTW, so this BLM is to be launched in Jan ‘08 eh? That’s strange. I saw in The Star paper today that K.Trengganu gonna have new meter taxis and check out the photo, isn’t the front looks eerily similar with the BLM photos which have been flying around in the net? How come the reporter doesn’t mentioned about the taxi car model??
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/12/29/nation/19878826&sec=nation
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-that is proton waja la…. this waja multifunction using ha.. police car can.. taxi can.. but customs so kaya using BMW for patrol car.. maybe nextime police will use Persona to add patrol car but with different beacon light… maybe LED type..
-i ask u all so many times what is pre tensioner seatbelt but no one know r..???
Aiya, you “cock eye” lah, I am from Klang Valley and the taxi is Waja latest model (with the biggest Tundercat logo, “mimicking” big VW logo).
Hello arch747,
Those new taxis at Kuala Terengganu are Proton Waja, Not BLM la.
Not bad ya that state having lots of new taxis around :)
I personally thinks thats Waja is the most suitable car to be use as public transportation because of its ride comfort :)
I really agree with some stating the BLM looking like a deformed last 2 generation hyundai accent, while its rear looked like some China car maker trying to copy c-class (looks more similar with small tyres as proposing China car styling).
Its a good move that Proton finally replace their decades old model. The current Saga Iswara is 2 decades old but the BLM looks like a decade old already! The rear and side profiles are acceptable but the front is simply dated.
However and unfortunately, I am looking forward to get this car too when I come out work soon for the price. Myvi is still way better than blm, satria neo, savvy and gen2.
arch747 said,
December 29, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
1st time forummer, I thot I sent a comment once just now but nowhere to be seen. sigh…
BTW, so this BLM is to be launched in Jan ‘08 eh? That’s strange. I saw in The Star paper today that K.Trengganu gonna have new meter taxis and check out the photo, isn’t the front looks eerily similar with the BLM photos which have been flying around in the net? How come the reporter doesn’t mentioned about the taxi car model??
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/12/29/nation/19878826&sec=nation
People in KT, pls confirm yo!
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– this is waja la bang… waja is multifunctional ha…. it can be taxi or as a police patrol car.. maybe next time police will use persona to add current patrol car but with LED type beacon light..
– i ask u all what is pre tensioner seal belt.. so no one respond.. maybe no one knows..
EddyHyip said,
However and unfortunately, I am looking forward to get this car too when I come out work soon for the price. Myvi is still way better than blm, satria neo, savvy and gen2.
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you must be lying, coz otherwise you would buy myvi rather than BLM. myvi n viva is sooooo overpriced
feeze26…
“Definition: A seat belt pretensioner is built into a vehicle’s seat belt mechanism. If an accident occurs, the pretensioner pulls the seat belt slightly tighter to minimize injury that can occur if the seat belt is too loose.
This action is separate, but simultaneous, to the locking up of the seat belt retractor.” (http://trucks.about.com/od/glossarys/g/pretensioner.htm)
Others :
http://www.tierone.com/seatbeltpretexcerpt.html
Buy BLM! Those can consider 2nd hand, Waja is good option at RM 30K ++ for around 3 year car.
any persona owner could tell me your experince. Normally a lot of people show their anger about proton car quality, but now they only anger about goverment policy.blablabla (Hehe ) . Pleaseeee…tell me quality of that persona, so at least i have guide before decide to buy this BLM. :P
I think the car looks okay, at leats for low income people, this is affordable for them or for fresh graduate, okay price, okay space, okay power, I think it is very good price for them until malaysian can enjoy the fully AFTA car pricing…
don’t understand why needed to argue about it. indeed this car joint effort, designed with korean counterpart. hyundai, lg. this car looks like vios front, or chevrolet aveo notchback. and to highlighted it also the tail light or the design of the boot is definitely not copying c-class, because ford mondeo had the design more earlier than c-class during early 90’s. and looks more smoother than c-class. even older model hyundai sonata have similar design.
interior quite spacious. please look at the real car and feel it. the size is much bigger than savvy even don’t include the boot space. side by side is as big as vios, city or accent. is quite a decent car and looks better than persona to me. that’s why i didn’t buy persona i guess.
afterall this blm is one of the cheapest car in malaysian market, can’t complain much. just that unable to test drive it last few weeks. i believe, every car has its own market share. perodua or proton in malaysian still can sell. just like toyota, honda or nissan. when u love cars price is not really a matters, bcos u will work hard for it, i always believe so. i might be going to buy this blm as my 3rd or weekend car.
Sorry off topic…
“Kuala Terengganu will be the 12th city in the country, after Kuala Lumpur, Johor Baru, Ipoh, Shah Alam, Malacca, Alor Star, Petaling Jaya, Kota Kinabalu, Kuching Utara, Kuching Selatan and Miri”
surprise Penang not consider a city in Malaysia. Pg state Gov is so lame…
tomoro i’ll see it again..hopefully u paul have delete that comments..
Tv News Confirm it’s RM30K – 35K .
cheaper than expected..
Good bargain!. congrats proton!
looks really nice leh
si beh cute leh
now malaysia boleh
Really good looking. By 1st jan 08 we can book this blm. All the best proton.
Next time i hope proton will produce 5 doors neo or sedan neo.
Yalah, pPRIDE OF THE NATION…LOL…
Hopefully this BLM will be named after the old SAGA… SAGA, or SAGA.2. hehehe. At least the name will show some legacy or even the evolution on proton models. It quite amusing when the PERSONA didn’t use the name GEN.2, eventhough it can be easily recognised as a sedan GEN.2
Maybe Proton is not aware about this matter. But it surely important having some legacy in their cars line-up. Something to be proud of.
The interior is still a mystery. No more GEN.2 look-a-like dashboard PLEASE!!!
Buy it or leave it…. no need to comment so much! huh!
EddyHyip said,
December 29, 2007 @ 9:31 pm
I really agree with some stating the BLM looking like a deformed last 2 generation hyundai accent, while its rear looked like some China car maker trying to copy c-class (looks more similar with small tyres as proposing China car styling).
Its a good move that Proton finally replace their decades old model. The current Saga Iswara is 2 decades old but the BLM looks like a decade old already! The rear and side profiles are acceptable but the front is simply dated.
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Dear EddyHyip, I dunno which looks should be updated, but when proton came out with Savvy, ppl say weird design ugly etc, now when they come out with the new SAGA you said outdated..
but I think this new SAGA & WAJA has similarity to VW passat front end design..
refer
http://www.vw.com/passat/gallery/en/us/#/all/7
BigFish said,
December 29, 2007 @ 12:05 am
All the time I own Proton car, yet I admire other brand for their safety and build quality.
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Dear BigFish,
I understand how do you feel, your desire says Honda Accord/Toyota Altis but you pocket says otherwise..
Finally ended with Proton cars…
Don’t worry at least u don’t have to wear raincoat Maa…
Proton cars is better than before in term of safety, last time no pretensioner, now they have. airbags, ebd, abs etc…
Actually…. to all the Japanese car user. If financially your stable and can pay your monthly loans pls go ahead, but for most people out there 5 years loan at RM 650 plus and you can get a BLM Auto, that very affortable. You don’t look really good if that Japanese car of yours are bought with your parents money, makes you looks puny comparable to hard earn money. If i continue this conversation it will take years to actually analyse you, your personality and the very being you who is born in this world. Yes each had their own level of income and spending powers. Pls be nice to each and everyone at that level of commitments and level. If you are super rich and drive a Ferrari I would think you will not be ever seeing this BLM picture or even reading Mr. Paul blog, cos time is money for you, you only wanted the best, nothing less! Cheers !
ni gambar interior b line auto stok untuk hari launch
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7825/10012008075kr6.jpg
puas hati tak pada sesape yg nak sgt gambo interior terang lagi bersuluh ni
interior blm
http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10012008076yr2.jpg
a very very god car with sutable price too
last 2 dys, i do rented a saga blm model 2008, drive from kelantan to putrajaya,
fuel, ok rm 70 to rm80 for one trip(500KM), avg 90km/h to 140km/h
suspension, ok
driving pleasure ok
on avg worth every penny, as compare to 1.5 auto with price 80k with saga 40k 1.3 auto.
Yus, how far did you go on a full tank (that is until the fuel finish icon remain on)?