Jeremy Clarkson shows his frustration on companies that seem to take make cars as a pure for-profit matter… perhaps you could call it cars with no ‘spirit’ or ‘passion’. The victim – our very own Perodua Kelisa.
UPDATE: Recently this video has caught the attention of our MPs such as DAP-Tanjong MP Chow Kon Yeow and BN-Ledang MP Hamim Samuri. Click here to read more about that issue, or if you already know all about that, just enjoy the video in this post and find out what the fuss is all about.
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ermm…..k…I actually drive one of those. Pretty sad really my motoring mentor blowing it up in front of my eyes just 30 seconds ago. Life goes on and here comes the Perodua bashers. Cmon bitches I'm ready!!
i think he just cant accept the fact that a m'sian company had bought lotus. i thought James May loved the kelisa.
offended and tickled at the same time. eh why kelisa cheaper there one? wtf wtf
Sad to see ANY car being treated like that, not Kalisa particularly.
I used to drive one of those too, back in Malaysia, and I must say I was pretty happy with it!
What a shame to us huh………… Anyone????
Simply hilarious!! Padan Muka…. :)
The blady car is cheap there bcos of no silly taxes i think.
But u cant simply put the price too high also…who wants to buy right?
Er…which episode and season is this video? I dun recall watching this.
Feel proud,, our malaysian made was tested in such extreme manner….
well,,, is time to improve more and ready for 2nd test by this joker….
Produa…. show this joker… we BOLEH….
come on,
there are POOR white people there,
who need this CHEAP cars lah!
same here, if each has money, why buy it!
the way he smash the car is disgusting….
make people think of terrorist ACTS!
4,842.00 GBP = 32,374.44 MYR. What's the current price of Kelisa now?
"Aiyo…why lar go and hentam and bakar Kelisa. Better donate to our Malaysians here mar… we worked our ass off for a mere around RM 2000 (for fresh graduates) and finance our car ass off for an inferior quality car like that. Like we have choice here!"
I wonder if this guy has anything to do with Kelly Clarkson. Surely this video was inspired by her song, Breakaway.
If you guys want to check out his background and his credibility, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Clarkson
Bukan calang-calang.
jeremy .. dont let me see you on the road..
produca, toyota should
suit this crazy JERK!
i hate this guy now….but i really like the dynamite scene though… i wonder what will happen when they try it on savvy though…..lets us think ..maybe someone should send him an e-mail ask him to try it with savvy..maybe we can get our pride or …..who knows???
Mangkuk betul Jeremi nih.
Unfair. How about other car like VW, Fiat, Alfa, Citroen or even Merc?
Put a dynamit in & let me see how strong there are.
waramashit he is insulting us Malaysian. this dude should go to hell.
DAMN, this FELLA suck.. though I am white too, his attitude cldnt be accepted. He's a barbarian like wht they called m'sian still live above trees.
waaa.. wat he doing…. tryin to show the car is bad? if he was to treat bmw like this… it wont blow up? zzzzzz
torture kelisa tuh, bagi aku pun bagus!
I am wondering.
Which season and episode is this show ?
I have seasons 5 to the current one.
I dont seem to see it.
oh man! this is soooo mean! bt hes an idiot,i mean which car company is not an orgnization n want to make mony???jus that othrs put abit more effort into it….this guy cant even fit in the kelisa,his giant head is wripping off the roof!! anyway i hate this car…bt not to a point to smash it….!
this guy really "Fxxxer", i will save enough money and do the same to the lotus, rover…etc as well………… real fxxxxxxer……..
Cheh..tipu kuat…mana-mana keta pun kalau ketuk ngan penukul besi gerenti kemek! Dah tu, apasal tak pecahkan lampu ngan cerminnye sekali. Gantung satu tan konon! Setakat ikat kat bumper memang le tercabut. Keta lain pun kalau kena Dinamit 4 biji jadi arwah.. ape le.. dah keta tu OK ape..tak mahal, jimat petrol, sesuai ngan orang yang kocek sengkek macam saye, tak larat nak sara keta besor.
poor poor ikan kelisa.
White Moron. Just can't get the point. What he's trying to prove here? Anyone? Not because it's Perodua or Proton or any so called Malaysian car. If he did that to the other production, still I can't get a single glimpse of his point. Stoooooooopid….
i hate this guy…….. i think others co. paid him to do this test….. they think kelisa is tank….. better asked this guy to test our ADNAN(local light tank)……
i hav experienced bad accident driving my kelisa, frontal collusion wif a 1 ton lorry. yup, i suffered knee, forehead (by smashing windscreen), and few other abdoments. but, anyway i feel lucky that i wear seatbelts at that time. really save me though. the car was equipped with a good crumple zone cage anyway. yeah, for me i think Kelisa still a good car, value for money, and i cant hardly imagine if i was driving a iswara 'kereta kebal'.. not worthy for money at all, no safety and quite ugly as well.
A good reminder to both P1 & P2. Neglect quality, & that's what you will get from Jeremy Clarkson.
Well guys listen up Jeremy is not just barbaric but I guess he think he (big beer belly n well earned british with his so pround idoitic look and green teeth-disgusting priGG!!!) is everything. He tried to be posh but listen up he never actually being through living poor,maybe when he got poorer he will start to be looking like one of the homeless british people asking for spare change and digging up rubbish bin to look for food.He loves branded, branded and branded.He makes money by being commenting and judging others' production,what make him so different from Proton if the so called company only make cars for monies?Show respect!
proton should hire this guy as a quality control……..
our beloved savvy also kena kutuk, inikan that ciput kelisa…no chance lah, sure kena kondem…err…where the proud brit. MG Rover?…bungkus ler, to the end…
gosh.. i wonder why he don use proton as the victim.. if so, this could be more interesting.. pity the kelisa.. :P
What a waste. That is one Kelisa that I could use.
Look, it was an entertaining (and severely dramatized) episode with the kelisa as the star. Or the anti-star depending on which side of the fence you re on.
His message was basically this – lets take a stance and not tolerate bloody crap cars. This does not necessarily apply on to the kelisa, it probably does to the savvy, kenari, kancil, some earlier korean makes, all current chinese makes, etc. Unfortunately, the kelisa was his 'subject in this case'
And before you trash me for affordable and good alternatives, the picanto is good fun. The Satria is decent fun too. Apparently the Aygo, Panda is also good but i hadnt a clue experience-wise.
So hey; cheap = not always nasty. Which to me, is a noble message.
This is precisely what makes clarkson such a fun watch – he is not politically-correct, he doesnt seem to really care if he alienates anyone, and thus he is throughly impartial. Which is key in his field. Look he trashes (literally and figuratively speaking) ANY make/ origin.. And if you think he is paid please. dont be naive. Integrity leads to credibility leads to his livelihood. The man owns several 100k pounds machines.. to pay him off, just to annoy another cheap small-car competitor? you cant afford it
Dont we all feel on some days, like beating the crap out of our cars? I know i do:)
JC is known for his sarcasicm. He did the same on a old Porsche.. killed it.
*&^@*!^%# no media player at work PC.
company automobile british semua dah bungkus…. harapkan roll royce buat enjin kapal terbang jer….
JC pula kena bash…! kow kow ;)
Paul,
I think u knew the consequences posting this topic.
Free bashing time…
Jeremy you..just know he have safe our life. !!!…this bugger is a truly "brave heart" can kutuk….but ourself ignore it and continue using this car…when lah our malaysian will change.
"Truly malaysia"
It's in heaven and hell episode. just wahed it few days and I got it from gnutella network..anywhere got lah.. I think it's a special episode with only JC in it…poor kelisa, a type of car that 'berjasa" a lot to Malaysians one.
if this could raise up the spirit of our malaysian carmaker, then jc is making the right choice.. hope the next victim would be on the junk protons..
please lah…if u want to condamed a car or manufacturer, show it side by side with another good car that can with stand all this torture and still can be driven away. stupid white bas***d…who cares what msg he's trying to show, it's just brutal…if he can show me a car with kelisa price and still can be drove after all that torture, then I'll take back my words…stupid white f****r…
That was not the worse he ever did, I think. I've seen before he poured tons of 'najis binatang ternakan' (cow or horse, probably) on a Vauxhall family van.
It's not right to say he's a British product supporter. Remember that Vauxhall is British brand.
Clarkson certainly has a lot of grudge against the poor Kelisa ;p
I remember something..
WHEN SAVVY kene KUTUK by Jeremy clarkson .
I told to the people, that jeremy is a JOKER, but they laugh at me back. and said that i backup savvy. Go to hell la you savvy lover.
What sad i am? . They said jeremy is hell yeah god damn good and pro people..
And then i fight back. i tell them jeremy is a joker!, and hate malaysian so much coz lotus bought by proton. Then they laugh again at ME. And almost people here also laugh to savvy and for the those defend it.
But then.. What can i say now? Eat ur own words back? ..
Ayway.. feeling sad also at the car. but i do agree some more on what he said = "Makes car for profit!" .
Dont bash me.. because it's not perodua or our national car anymore.. it's toyota. The best and the biggest car maker now = Money Maker!.. (Alaa… UK, US mmg tak suka toyota / lexus.. sebab negara diorang dah takda kereta sendiri dah… )
After he did that to Vauxhall, the selling of Vauxhall's falls down instantly.
Let's just pray that majority of Perodua future buyers have never watch this, I mean I'm not a Perodua fan but I also do not want one of our national car maker (which employed thousands of worker) goes bankcrupt or lays off their workers. That not good for our economy. Have some sympathy for the blue collar workers who work at Perodua plants.
Jeremy Clarkson is a devout Capitalist to me. He does'nt care a damn about the poors
do anyone get the not .swf file? mpg? wmv format?
i want to mass email it to all my friends.
let see what they think and say.. anyone knew where i can get the .wmv :)
Mitsu_galant : You can get it at Kancil Killer's site. He uploaded the .avi format. http://kancilkiller.net
Not bad, at least manufacturer have to start consider about producing better cars, I don't understasnd why u guys keep protecting perodua as Jeremy said, profit making then making a good car.
if next time i see this fellow on the london street..i'll sure go knock him down..i swear i will! Wat fat white Arse!
As as a Malaysian I'm proud of the Kelisa….but seeing an asshole bashing it like that creates hatred in many people's heart.
Really dissappointed with that jeremy asshole. What an idiot.
Definitely if you hit a car with that SLEDGE HAMMER……..tell me if any car won't dent absorbing the power of that hammer
Even an Audi, Merce, BMW, Volks, Bentley, Ferrari etc will dent. Pass the hammer to us…..we will show to the world on how each car in this would fair in this test.
But I'm proud of my country's car. Well done Perodua….but just try to make your car a bit stiffer …. Good Job …. Myvi will be a better qc car
Just ignore Jeremy….he only talks about high end cars….why did he demo a Kelisa then ?
Dear Neighbours,
I do not see the humour in the video. It is sad to see a perfectly brand new car destroyed for absolutely no objective. J.C. has every right to speak his one cent worth but extremely inconsiderate to insult the car that many where u guys are at and even here here in Singapore have pride in ownership. It is not the cars fault but the drivers where he is at that signal left and turn right. Anyway, he has never been a popular presenter, somewhat a SImon Cowell, of car shows. Tiff needle is much much more admirable as a presenter and a driver.
Regards.
sick guy….. no car can pass the BOOM test anyway…. Paul, pls do not show anymore from this sick guy…. let ban him.
lol… jeremy's always sarcastic… but he's funny too… he loves to destroy cars. smashed porches, volvos, hondas… but it's pretty fun to see these cars smashed, altho it'd be better if they donated it to someone who needs it *like me*
he especially loves to target "pacific rim" cars for bashing. in this case, cars from malaysia and korea especially.
it doesnt matter what he says anyways, at least here in the "pacific rim", we have a car industry. Back in the UK, the last time i checked, other than the handful of tiny specialist car builders, its all either been bought up by companies from other countries, or they've gone bankrupt.
its funny how mr clarkson never talks about that..?
z0mg this is too funny
I can't believe the type of clueless idiots one can find here. Note: I don't mean Clarkson.
Moronic!
As if their ill-fated MG Rover will not crash/blast.
In fact, which car will be that DURABLE if u use the hammer to abuse it?
We have to pay for quality… If he is willing to sponsor rm100,000 per person that we don't mind filling the roads with hondas, toyotas or nissans… he just does not realise that cars are not dirt cheap here and kelisa is considered one of the more reliable cars here. How to compare with the continental cars. Maybe we should ask him to find us a car with a budget of RM30-40,000 that was built with "passion" and "spirit".
No soul or passion? Ask him to come here and meet the kancil, kelisa and kenari drivers here in Malaysia and we'll show him wat is passion!
Btw, at least we still have our own national car manufacturers… Jeremy, can you pls tell us the name of one UK car manufacturer that is still fully/partially owned by a UK company???
I wonder what the reader's reaction would be like if the car was Proton. Hmm… sure got bashed kaw-kaw, everyone would jump with joy and praise clarkson like he is some kind of God or Deity. If he happens to come here somebody would sembahyang for him I am sure… hahah…
JC can be a real A-hole.
Arguablky however, IMHO Kelisa came off quite well in this . It withstood the sledge hammering and the dynamite quite well. A though little car.
If listened carefully, he was quite complementary at times. The only gripe he got is that these types cars got no soul, flair and passion which he complained even about cars like Posche.
To equate to white goods can be seen as a complement. Good and reliable workhorses like the fridge and washing machine bearing in mind the geriatric market (those that indicate left but turn right!) that Kelisa seems to attract.
I remember seeing one review by the Richard Hammond (the shortest of the Top Gear presenter), he quite liked the car.
By choosing Kelisa, maybe it is his weird way to indicate that it is the best of the soulless, flairless and passionless lot.
Looks like P1 basher (p2 supporter) damn angry liow!!!!
Cool down guys… last time he also kutuk sawy. ;)
p/s: P2 is not a national car. It's what u guys been proud of (Daihatsu/Totyota)
Different niche different needs….
RIGHT ON JEREMY CLARKSON!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woo-Hoo!!,
There is nothing more to proton's and perodua's apart from an engine and a milo tin casing. There is nothing good about this car. I hope the preodua and proton management sees this! I have to say This white man's got a point. It's time for the local car manufacturer's to buckle up and start improving…this include suppliers and vendors. But Perodua and Proton, please help yourself to make malayasians have faith in you!!
hello, he wasn't testing the car. he's making a statement that a crappy car deserves only treatment like kena hentam sledgehammer and bomb by tnt. unfair review, it's not a review lah!
Yau Mou Gau Chor,
Even if Daihatsu owns 40% of perodua, Perodua is Still a Malaysian brand and it still carries the Malaysian Flag. So if Perodua produces lousy car, then the Malysian image is also tarnished. Still Daihatsu only give us the expertise and technology transfer…therefore perodua (Malaysian side) is responsible for making sure this car is of good quality. Have you seen any original Daihatsu thats poor quality?
actually i dont really understand why are u guys so mad about. from the way i see it, JC was trying to show a point that he hates ppl who build cars for money making instead for the passion of it.
i guess thats just it. i dont feel any way offended when i watched that video.
p/s: yeah he's rich and all and shouldnt do that, but i guess i get this point of thrashing that car.
hey guys,
The only way to improving is through critism. Thickened your face skin, thats how developed sountries become developed in the 1st place. Thats how Japanese car manufacturers become what they are today too!. As a young car manufacturer we have to learn to take alot of pounding, if not we're never going to improve I have followed jeremy's show for quite a while, he's done a few test on this car and yes it has never impressed him!
Lol amusing~~~
——great post said,
December 19, 2005 @ 2:37 pm
i dont agree with u……. the way that he review( using hammer& TNT).It should be OK if kelisa is a tank. KELISA is not a WAR MACHINE…… stupid mat salleh…… macam cerita RAMBO lak….. kelisa kena gantung…… again bodoh punya mat salleh……
——Rosdi said,
December 19, 2005 @ 1:46 pm
I wonder what the reader’s reaction would be like if the car was Proton. Hmm… sure got bashed kaw-kaw, everyone would jump with joy and praise clarkson like he is some kind of God or Deity. If he happens to come here somebody would sembahyang for him I am sure… hahah…
Rosdi….. do u think that JC will replace AYAH PIN…….. R u going 2 sembahyang 4 him……… ahak ahak ahak ahak…..
no matter wat car u smash with a hammer… same things happen… it just that why u make other smash ur car with hammer or hang on a crane like that… he should make 2 car to get in accident to prove that… not this way… anyway… the video was like an ACTION movie pack… :p… hahaha… see ya
I used to think Jeremy Clarkson was an impartial professional auto journalist. After watching this video, I'll never see him in the same light again. Damn snob. Guess all those test drives in Bentleys and Bugattis really got into his Italian leather-clad pampered head… stupid moron… :P
jeremy is kind of stupid man!! in my opinion, jeremy is not a professional car analyzer…other car will become the same as that kelisa if he treated like that!!
what a poor man!
he didnt respect our car so,i didnt think that he is brilliant about car….
sorry to saylah!!
Yes, he said that the car is only made for profit, but that is not the way to show that the car has a very low quality or unsafe for customer. if he put the car on a crash test, front impact, side impact and rear impact and show how bad the passanger might be injured etc? then I will accept all his comments and judgement. but the way he treat the cars is so brutal n, for me how correct he is in his comment (which I think none) it is just seem to be empty bcos of the terorrism act he show on that car…
I'll give the same comments for any type of cars…this mat salleh is just a sick minded person…sick o…
I think a lot of people here has missed the point completely. He's not wrong in one respect. Peroduas are awful cars. Whilst this is an affront to our sense of nationalistic pride, what Perodua should be doing is not retaliating against JC. Perodua should be building better cars.
If you think he's got something against a particular country or make, you should see his 1996 video JC: Unleashed on Video. There he deliberately crashed a Volvo 360 into a tree and stuck a Nissan Sunny (his pet peeve) on the end of a trebuchet and launched it into the ground.
In fact, he did the same against the Vauxhall Astra, brutalising it as a horrendous machine. General Motors did the right thing. They developed a better Astra, called in JC to give his comments and feedback and lo and behold the next incarnation of the Astra was a vastly superior machine.
His comments aren't all great about British cars either. They usually come second best to German offerings. One thing you can be certain is that if it is a lemon, then he'll call it a lemon. Why hide it? We pay so much for cars, we deserve to get the best we can. Blind nationalism isn't much good when it comes to value for money.
Instead of getting mad because our sensitivities are under assault, why not learn from this? Only when the truth comes out can we get better things.
JC is a petrolhead and so are many of us here. We like driving good cars be they expensive or "affordable." Whatever the price, the driving experience ought to be a good one. But in Perodua and Proton's case it really isn't. If they were you'd plan to replace a Proton with another one when you're done. But no, the average Malaysian aspires to Hondas and Toyotas. Why? Because the national car sucks and we shouldn't be afraid to say it nor demand better from the makers.
In the end, these cars are offered by businessmen all out to make a buck at the expense of everything else even your own sense of value. Whereas cars made with a sense of pride and passion into its quality and driving experience are what we should be able to buy.
Personally speaking, I too am sick to death of these "washing machine" soapboxes our national car industry loves to shove down our throats at ridiculous prices. Time to make 'em better, its the 21st century after all.
his crazy act, which hanging n pull down with thing that heavier than the kelisa, bomb it… wtf? he trying to say aston martin or rover cant just bomb like that?
Wow, I think P2 people should see this!
perodua sucks big time said,
December 19, 2005 @ 2:38 pm
Still can't see any point here. Kelisa is a BUDGET CAR!!!!!!. What to improve?? If he did that to Enzo than I'll be surpirse. (Waaa…. very damn teruk quality)…but we are talking about Kelisa here…. Hello…hello…hello……
Although I dun drive P1 or P2 (proud of my N16) but we're talking about cheap car for certain citizen of the country.
Mr. Perodua Sucks Big Time….pls suggest anything out of yer 'square head', how to improve comparing the price of the car.
Well, for me, I can say – dual airbags, Twin turbo engine, 17 inch custom made sport rims, leather seats, ICE, Disk brake, EBD, ABS, GPRS mapping, Hehehhe…. If U don't have RM 100k plus…don't even dream of driving the Kelisa.
It is very funny the video. It seems that there are a lot of stupid malaysians out htere. c'mon ,the kelisa model was release in the early second half of the 90's.In the uk the car has abs and airbag but none here.It is very funny that no malaysian ever complain p2 about this glaring absence.The japanese model of the kelisa sold in uk has esp but none here .It really shows how crap some some malaysians are.the kelisa is a k car so don't expect much it's supose to be bare bone.In terms of safety,if you see people driving the kelisa at obscene speed you can forget about it protecting you if yougetinto an accident.the one ton test shows the crumple zone would not really protect you if you drive at 35 mph or more.nuff said
Which person in the right mind would attach a 1 tonne weight on a super mini hanging upside down? Goes to show he's beginning to concentrate more on entertaining the Mat Salleh masses more than putting more effort into proper auto reviews… bleh…
his crazy act, he trying to say aston martin or rover cant just bomb like that?
what's the point he hanging kelisa on sky n pull down with stone than actually heavier than the kelisa?
these act is nothing to help our gorv give their rakyat a better car choice, we still have to buy national car if we dont want to do 7 years installment, 4years for car n 3 years for gorv idiot tax.
pity to see a kelisa go that way, but i think to prove his point he had to get a malaysian/korean car which makes the kelisa the cheapest among the models
WTH? This maggot is thinking that this is just a piece of shite! I think you should be eating shiat. This Kelisa is very useful for most people on a budget.
EAT SHIT YOU MOTHER FUC*ING JEREMY CLARKSON
You are english, you are young, you don't have debt… here's my advice.. listen to Jeremy Clarkson. never buy a budget car… these manufacturer only think of stealing your money. here's the plan: get a huge credit (you will never afford to pay pay back it back but nevermind). Buy a BMW… be a sheep –pay the nice car… pay the nice brand… pay the nice insurance… whorship it and crash and burn just like the kelissa in the video…
Anonymous1 : Yes dude. I agree with your comment to a certain degree. I've seen Jeremy trashing Rover all the way back to Timbuktu. But saying Perodua and Proton coming out with rubbish cars is pushing it. I just feel that he's getting too big for his own shoes. When you get a car for a mere 4 thousand pounds, of course you don't expect Aston like handling or Beemer type luxury. The Kelisa is a very respectable car for it's class range. If he thinks Perodua cars are trash, wait till he get's his pampered hands on those rubbish China knockoffs… I wonder what he'll do with them then…
i think this person is sick…pity to see him hated himself so much on car…think he has phobia to car…hated the car till like to torture it so much…and his son, his daughter…must be died under this car…his mother…his father all died under this car…and his everything died under this car..pityful this guy…
I am very angry at this guy.
What on earth is he doing.
I've known these rich people wich can afford a Buggati Veyron or Porsche Carerra.
Don't you see? He's insulting us Malaysian. He's insulting our effort and dreams.
It's people like these who criticize others but don't look back at themselves.
I think a lot of people know Proton and Perodua. Well, for instance Proton has the best warranty in Britain. Using our money. Taxpayers' money.
Oh popular person. Where is MG Rover's batang hidung eh???
It's because of people like you giants like MG Rover fall in the most humiliating way. MG Rover is no longer british but CHINESE!!! Malaysia Boleh
Ahhh… He did something I've been waiting to do for ages. Pity it wasnt a Kancil.
Poor old 'Lisa. Ken's next I suppose?
before i'm called a square head again i have to say maybe kelisa is good enough for the m'sian market. It'll never be able to compete in the developed market. Gee prove me wrong idf i say that proton and perodua cars are not selling out as well in UK, Australia.
agree with anonymous1 .
Not all what jeremy said is wrong.
Corrrrreeection..
He smash the car with hammer is not to test the car body-lah!
But to show / impress his FRUSTED emotion about that car.
Correct me if were wrong. because i listen carefully on what he said. So please listen carefully.
Let see COMING SOON! = MYVI hahaha
if proton = Whoaaa.. Good damn good Jeremy ! U did a god damn good job!..
While p2 kena plak = Whoooaa.. F***ER jeremy!.. GTH bla bla..
What a lalang lah u all..
Now who is more stupid? *yawn*
Acually what jeremy said is true, Perodua and Protons are making tonnes of money profiteering from we poor Malaysians by giving us inferior cars, with weak chasis and body strength. I have to agree with Mitsu-galant, what happened to the previous post when jeremy banged on Proton, noone became nationalist then. Now with Perodua we see the Ultra Malaysians coming out of the woodwork. Lets face it, Proton and perodua will always be subpar cars. DOn't buy one expecting a Honda or any Japanese car. Lower your expectations and Proton and Perodua will surprise you to no end.
From the comments above, I guess most of us are 'saddened' by the way the car is treated, whether it be a P1 or P2 or maybe any other nationality manufactured car. Because our culture is not like that. After watching the video, what was your reaction? Do you feel ashamed that there is this kind of species still available in the world? If you didn't, but instead you think the video clip is funny, then I do suggest you go for a psychiatric help.
If he is reviewing the car properly by guidelines then it would do more just to the car manufacturer. But in this video, his way of reviewing the car was like a 'mad-man' who just wanted attention. No wonder he had caused so many uproar.
Even though there were many controversials surrounding this species, ppl are still watching his shows. I must suggest that there are many of this kind of species still at large! ;)
Agree with priyan… Malaysian carmakers are not competitors in the global automotive arena (a.k.a jaguh kampung)… In fact… Big players like Mercedes and BMW are ACTUALLY afraid of this guy because his comments are based on facts with a dash of sarcasm (sometimes very very extreme), which in turn affect carsales… Unlike mindless bashing… Sigh…
So the thing is… Rather be proud of a carmaker that is jaguh kampung style or global style… Think…
in on of the top gear episodes i have seen…….jeremy, james, and another guy ..richard….richard said he infact liked it……..he said it reminds him of the old mini..overall he said it a good buy……there u have it.another mat salleh form the same show saying it GOOD…….kekekke
Haha by the way… Did he think that the kelisa IS a tank??… A rational person will say no… But maybe… One of the reason he trashed the car was to tell the public that a Kelisa is on par with trash… Hmm… I dunno… It all depends on how a human mind interprets the message…
I believe that Malaysian carmakers CAN be better… In fact… Malaysian carmakers can be the best in the world… But there are countless, numerous, uncountable factors holding back that dream that I, as a Malaysian, wish to see… Sigh…
JEREMY NI BANGANG NAK MAMPUS!!!
If he put any car under such idiotic mannerism bodoh bangang act, fo sure that car won't last… with that kinda price, what is his expectation la…. mangkuk big time… try take a sledge hammer and bang onto Ferrari… dent? won't dent? you tell me!!!
JEREMY BODOH!!
This man is Cruellllllllll……………….!!!
I agree with u David
actually… that jeremy guy is stupid.. sure everyday got ppl wanna kill him, ham ka ling jeremy!.. kelisa is actually daihatsu charade.. and why hes always blaming malaysia but not the japan? … i hate that whore.. talk cock about other country but not his country. talk cock nya seng!
do you know why he was so pissed off with kelisa? because first kelisa was trying to be a Mini, and second because kelisa was doing a good job at it, and in fact much better with those japs gadgetry and economical fuel consumption, good pricing, what else. what passion are you asking for when all you need is just a people mover, it serves its purpose well -waddaya expect from an elswick or a raleigh bicycle, or even a Vw Beetle when it was made for its intended purpose back then.
urm…he said sumthin about passion..where is this passion come from? driver? well..if u don't like sumthin from the beggining there's no way this passion will come..how about people who are working to create kelisa?…wonder how their felt..well it's not like we can laugh happily after looking sumone go thrashing our work that badly rite?well yeah..if sumbody at produa look at this it might be a major wake up call to'em..create a superb car..wonder how much more we hev to pay..
I am a frequent reader of JC column. But the sight of the sadistic &
"car=barian" way of showing his poor opinion of the Kelisa or any car ( proton , vauxhall , rovers ) for that matter is utter STUPIDITY , LOW LEVEL , INSANE , NUT , @#$%$@$$%^#@$#$#. NOT ENOUGH VULGAR WORDS TO DESCRIBE.
He can use his knowledge , experience and journalism skill to show his contempt of this car . But to use a sledgehammer & explosive ,f@#$ing h$ll,
this is not a tank…& he acting like a mad terrorist. Destruction is not the way of showing his disgust.
He should bloody respect some of the owner in UK and being a journalist.
LOSING SOME TV RATING LATELY JC ??? Lightened up or go get drunk !!!
Your tummy need it.
I think he is absolutely hilarious. Who cares its just a kelisa. People will still continue to buy it 'cos its an econo box. It did exactly what any other econo box would do…. break! Besides we are talking about a guy who test drives a Ferrari for a living either way i think he has a better life than most of us who wish we could do the same >:D
… i juz bought my Kelisa Se last week,this is torture to my eyes
1. this guy is a jerk
2. he earns his living from a media, so such act is predictable
3. i hate him
4. what he knew about P2? pure profit making?
5. what i hate more is.. some malaysian love him??
my dad got a LORI Hantu back in my hometown, lets see if Jeremy can withstand if i crush him down.
What is the purpose of doing this stupid act…hung a full ton of weight to a car weigh less than a ton. What this joker try to prove ? try to compare a kelisa vs army tank ?
or he don't believe country like M'sia able to produce car!
Maybe he is too angry & unhappy because car manufacturers in UK such as Rover, Mini,Lotus, Jaguar had owned by others. >. WTF
the dynamite should have been shoved up his ass and blown up with the kelisa. Then we see who flies higher…geremy or the kelisa. Aku nampak hang kat Malaysia, i'll drive over your stiff upper lip with my silver kelisa.
Serves em' right for selling crap cars in the UK and bringing on the wrath of Jeremy Clarkson.
im in UK right now as we speak, there lots and lots of proton and produa here, im so supprise. Its like every 10 cars pass by 1 of them would be a proton or produa. Even SAGA!!!
they just love our easy to park car since they dont actually have much space to park cars, also a full tank of gas cost my rental ford focus GBP40. Imagine that.. hmm..
heyt..in season 4 or 5 of top gear, he did destroy toyota hilux..
i got to agree with anonymous1..but then he also did trash maserati..and that volvo 360..TVR too..
but always mat salleh mindset, they think they are really good and they are the best in the world..in fact the said that we malaysian build cars out in a jungle clearing..typical mat salleh's la..
always that if we m'sian, to be exact the m'sian national car builder shud build a better quality car that worth for money..or else we eill see this thing again in the future
first and foremost, yes i agree this is not a real car review, but JC had done a review on the kelisa last year..his comments was actually fair(cheap, fuel consumption, low insurance lvl). JC doin this to a car is nothin new, he was just tryin to vent his feelings towards this so called 'passionless' cars and was just using a kelisa amongst other makes as an example. Mind you that he has also critised alot of other car makes for ex. Mercedes for its lousy build quality(merc also lousy build quality, what about proton?). It is just that in the UK the car market is so much more competitive then in msia. Also, with a price tag of 4000 pounds, people in the UK can buy a entry level Toyota Avgo which comes stock with a cd player, twin airbags and ABS. Why would anyone buy a Kelisa then?
heyt..in season 4 or 5 of top gear, he did destroy toyota hilux..
i got to agree with anonymous1..but then he also did trash maserati..and that volvo 360..TVR too..
but always mat salleh mindset, they think they are really good and they are the best in the world..in fact the said that we malaysian build cars out in a jungle clearing..typical mat salleh's la..
always that if we m'sian, to be exact the m'sian national car builder shud build a better quality car that worth for money, a drivers car..not a money making machine for a corporate business man and his cronies..or else we will see this thing again in the future
he use kelisa sure la like tht…. and he always picks on malaysia's more inferior cas. y dun he try sum of malaysia better made cars… like perdana, putra or satria gti… sure got sum good points rite???
All I have to say about Jeremy is that he can sometimes be quite a pain in the backside. He has obviously not lived in M'sia before and thus cannot understand our culture. In other words, I don't think he has much of an insight into our automobile industry. Things are different in the UK, so what's he to pay 4000 quids for a Kelisa and then smash it up? He should stick to commentaries about anything above 2000 cc and that's that!
At least there's 1 or 2 people in this thread who 'get' Mr Clarkson and his message, most of you that spend your time blindly bashing Perodu and Proton are now blindly supporting it.
I've met Jeremy before in the BBC studios at one of his show, he's a very nice, funny and witty guy (if badly dressed..).
And yes it's a budget car, but there are other cars in the UK of a similar price that are FAR better quality, that's the point.
Car manufacturers should look to innovate and create, not just reproduce and aim for profits rather than satisfaction.
oh well, truth hurts.
Typical comments here so far :P
Wow, there were so many Jeremy Clarkson bashers here I was afraid that it reflected on the overall mentality of the people of our country. Fortunately there were quite a number that took it in good faith. That to me, was the saving grace to our intellectual dignity.
Come on people, try to look at it on a different perspective, on the reasons why he would lambast perodua and torture and destroy the kelisa in such an exaggerated manner. Sure he doesn't understand why average Malaysians consider Kelisa a good car. However, this does not mean he is wrong in his comments on it being soulless and made purely for profits. Just for the record, I don't approve of his bravados and cynicism, but I do comprehend the message he's trying to get across.
We Malaysians are slapped with astronomically high taxes on imported cars, so this has led to a free and easy ride for P1 and P2 towards mediocrity. Low expectations and easy acceptance only compounds this problem. I would suggest for the JC bashers to question if they would rather own Kelisas of the same current standard or one so good that it would shut him up.
Change that negative mindset for the sake of our country's future please!!
Wow! You know what is amazing that so many people here are threatening bodily harm to another human being. Seriously whats wrong with you people? Does his attack on a mere car justify you guys trying to maim him? What gives you the right to hurt or kill another person? If you're god then well and good smithe him down with fire and brimstone for what you perceive is a great injustice. But you're not! Its this clan mentality and vigilante behaviour that leads to more woes in this world. When law and order falls one of these days, i shudder to think i would be living with this same people, who may take to the streets like what happened in New orleans. The only reason these same people aren't killing anyone is because they are only afraid of getting caught. Keep you lori hantus at home and stop trying to kill people, this is real life and not some computer game.
C'mon la if u one 2 say about about profit, spirit or passion juz say it in words.
This is juz damn insulting. What is the point by breaking a car and wasting ur money when there are so many people out there who don hav even 1 car.
adeii.. mamat nih mmg gampang.. dulu proton.. skrg perodua plak.. demmit..
I've read half way through and i'm glad to see most of you guys are pissed about JC doing that kinda stuff to our car. I dont mind the 'passion' and 'flair' stuff really, but i've never been a fan of our malaysian made cars for reasons i'm sure everyone knows. I LOVE Malaysia, i'm just not proud of it's cars….. yet.
so disappointed with our very own malaysian built car…..when we will change the attitude?
All these comment err…bashing are much expected. Only a few did listen to what JC said get the meaning between the lines. I drive a Kelisa and not even feel offended by what he did. Why should I? It hurts your prides? Or does it hurts your ego? You'll know what's fun to drive and what has soul when you have driven a lot (I do mean a lot) of different type, size and make of cars). And don't dare to say that your little pocket rocket is the most fun car or a car with a soul when you probably have ONLY drove one type/size/make of car. Ask yourself, how many cars have you driven? How many make of the same class have you tested?
We Malaysians are arrogant lots. Believe it or not it's inside each and every one of us. We condemn people who criticise us. And we force everyone to be nice and swept the dirt under the carpet (and then talk behind the back). All talk cock and no action. That's what our government has been doing for a long time. If you all so much offended by it, why curse and talk only? Would it change anything? That's all that Malaysian always do. Condemn. Why do you get so mad at JC? If P1 & P2 made a good car, he wouldn't have chose that car in the first place. Why didn't any of you tell the manufacturer? Chicken? I know I would, if there's only my voice. We never use our power (or the brain) to force them (P1 & P2 respectively) to do things the way we wanted. Let's not talk money here. Let's not talk about what you can afford and what's not. Talk about what you, me, all of us deserve. We drive them, not bein driven by them.
Perhaps we could all get a better perspective if we look at it as a bigger picture. I'm not defending JC nor agree to what he did. But Malaysian will never get to see a quality locally made care when most people still look at things with a short-sight, a narrow mind and over the top ego.
no car should be treated this way la…maybe he got his points, but not through this way..and..kelisa(not only kelisa la..perodua cars) is meant for those lower income group..so, perodua users wont expect to get smth more with the price they pay la..
Woah…I've just posted my comment and there's a few more already coming. Well Suugaku San and Priyan. What do you expect? I dare say it does reflect the vast majority of mindset of Malaysian. 'We' can laugh to other people but we'll retaliate when others laugh to us. 'We' couldn't even laugh to our selves.
*Sigh* When will we ever grow up….
aiyah….i wish he will go and smash those freakin photongs like Hantu, Sawi and all those rubbishlah….better than ruining a reliable Kelisa…
whAT A STUPID WHITE MAN!!CILAKA…wrong adjudging on the kelisa…pity kelisa
I like his humour. hehehe.
I agree with aksMs. just becoz it is a kelisa, everyone is defensive. common la. they have so many budget cars there. it's just tat their budget cars when reach our shores become expensive cars. now u know where we stand in the international arena. yes. truth hurts. IMPROVE!!!
His point is:
1. budget cars should not be low quality sacrificing safety.
2. when a car company makes a car, their effort shows in the product. When a company only thinks of profit, it will not improve. that's why p1 & p2 can only sell in Malaysia. No passion! Only want profit.
He bought the car. He destroys it coz he hates it. He is sending a message to car manufacturers. Good! It happened in Thailand as well on a CRV. In China as well. Only in Malaysia people dun do that, coz we are paying through our noses for the cars. Wake up la.
We act like very patriotic, defending the car. but honestly la, if got money, everyone one will rather drive a Honda or Toyota la.
kena screwed already, still wanna thank you… gila.
btul ape ckp jeremy clarkson tuh .. those perodua only make cars for their profit not pride.contoh la .. kancil and kelisa .. both are small cars and cheap among the malaysians.so kalau murah n mostly ppl will buy it rite? it is undeniable dat if most of us,malaysians pg beli kete murah n at the same time ..our standard of living slightly increase.more ppl afford to buy cars from them.but lower price means the lower is the cost rite ? the main subject is the car… they take cheap materials,and even used low tech car assembling sistem to cut the cost.so in aspect of safetiness is abused in this case.juz not bout safety,even the cars doest seem to comfort us as well like those imported cars.
jeremy clarkson ni mmg pnuh ngan kontroversi kalau kite bace kat wikipedia.tp diorang tu terlalu demokratik.main suke ati nak free speech and comment org lain.so we have to face that.andai kata si mamat omputih tuh x komen.tau ke kite sume pasal kete kelisa and kancil yg under perodua yg semestinya under daihatsu yg juga dipunyai oleh giant company toyota tu byk kelemahan dan keburukan ?he is just trying to give out his points to viewers bout our malaysian car.be open minded, n try to accept other ppl comments especially from those are experienced and profesionals.
so x kan la kite nak asik kutuk org yg komen pasal brand or product under the name malaysia sbb nak tunjuk kite ni syg sgt kat malaysia and terlalu nasionalisme.kalau kite btul syg negare kite,we have to face the comment they gave us n built another car dat are more safe,comfort us , powerful and most important affordable (cheap lar!!) by malaysians.
face it.. its our own problem n mistakes.those corporate leader juz think bout profit.they dun make car for the driver and their love to cars.they should change.if perodua built car like those vw,toyota,or bmw, one day the whole world will respect us as one of those top class car manufacturer.mane la tau .. dah famous sangat.. tetibe formula one ade name perodua .. rite?
one more thing .. i suspected ar .. those british hate us and keep comment on us bout producing bad cars because we bought lotus from them.
ya lor .. small country like us bought a quite branded car company from them.even the europeans insulted us due to the big amounts of shares we (protons) hold in theirs stock.btul ? so kite wat bodo je .. dun mind bout them insulting us .. but we have to take their comment to build up our automobile industry,make a better car for our malaysia pride souls
Haha… IMHO, blind (note the word blind) patriotism can never and will never carry a country foward… Understand the real message of the clip haha… Sigh…
Malaysian carmakers cannot even satisfy their biggest audience… Why even bother talking about export numbers and to be part of the global market??… Another NATO I guess… While some people are enjoying their big share of pies… All happening, as usual, behind the scenes, away from the public…
Cheers…
hye all…i have use the car b4…it just ok n nice to bring anywhere here in malaysia…i think maybee it is because the weather was not suitable with your country….
This clip is taken from Jeremy's own DVD entitled "Heaven & Hell". His 1 hour show introduces a group of cars which are divided into 2 groups – heaven and hell – and apparently our very own Kelisa are in the hell group.
Apparently, Jeremy & Co aren't receiving any type of sponsorship for their show and that is why they can criticise any car they think are bad, regardless of manufacturer and country. It is why I believe Jeremy isn't bias about Malaysian cars but Malaysian cars are simply junk.
It is true that when he say that Malaysian cars are not made by a man who wanted to make great cars but by a corporation that simply want to make money. Every year we hear issues about our national car production/import/export/board of directors etc. But the quality of the cars never improve. I'm not sure if it's just me but I still believe that the Sagas are still the best Proton ever had. Wira simply just suck. Waja and Gen-2 received way too much complains and problems. And Perodua's usual practice – copycat other manufacturer's car and modify and change the tag to "Perodua".
We Malaysians are paying way too much for cars here. The reason why Kelisa are priced lower than equavalent MYR in the UK is because you can drive a decent 2nd hand Golf GTi with just 2,000 pounds extra. Who wants to drive a Kelisa?
When it comes to car-making, it's not about patriotism. Patriotism has nothing to do with making a good car. If we show our so-called patriotism to buy a junk car, then we're stupid – it's our hard-earned money dude.
I'm not sure whether by 2020, Malaysia can produce a really good car. It don't have to be a 0-100 in few seconds or what, really, a good sedan or family car is good enough to boost the image of the country.
Open your mind and think about it.
Jeremy Clarkson is doing the right thing. He has this passion for cars, and every car manufacturer should have a passion for it as well. Passion doesnt equal profit? THINK.
If without passion:
1. We wouldn't have had 3-pointed seatbelts
2. We wouldn't have had air bags (Dunno, but US made)
3. We wouldn't have had ABS
4. We wouldn't have had Crumple Zones
5. We wouldn't have had Traction Control
6. We wouldn't have had Active Body Control
7. We wouldn't have had Adaptive Headlights
8. We wouldn't have had Curtain Airbags
9. We wouldn't have had Steptronic gears
Those with passion?
1. Citroen's seats will pad you on your left thigh if your car drifted off to the left of the lane that you're using. Vice versa
2. Mercedes did heavy research and development on trying to use different materials in producing their cars, mainly on the objective of supporting Third World Countries; even if the costs are slightly higher.
Hence you guys can see, Malaysian automakers aren't putting enough efforts in producing our cars, not to say being passion about it.
3.
huh? how come there's a 3 there? under my previous posts…. hmmm maybe i'm tired.
Anyway, what JC meatn was, he hated those who made a car for the sake of making a car….. these companies knew nothig bout it. copy cats.
9. We wouldn’t have had Steptronic gears
Those with passion?
1. Citroen’s seats will pad you on your left thigh if your car drifted off to the left of the lane that you’re using. Vice versa
2. Mercedes did heavy research and development on trying to use different materials in producing their cars, mainly on the objective of supporting Third World Countries; even if the costs are slightly higher.
Hence you guys can see, Malaysian automakers aren’t putting enough efforts in producing our cars, not to say being passion about it.
3.
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With that kind of budget, what the hell passion you want to get? P1 & P2 are targetting different kind of people with lower income range in Malaysia. You can't expect it will have all the luxury features like Citroen or Merz. It's comparing heaven and hell. Just look at the price range.
As for the Kelisa, it is still one of the best car for that amount of money you pay. It is still a good substition for those not willing riding a motorbike, but can't afford to pay 100K car.
The bugger can use other approaches to prove his poinst.
He does have valid points in quality & passion in building cars in this case.
BUT, he was once bloody poor & should have known better that UK4800 can do a lot of things for the needy .
He is too much of his acts… what a pitty to M'sian car… probably he should become the quality controller.. otherwise its juz a waste of bashing cars huh!!! dont want the car donatelahhh…
Don't take it so personally guys, he did a VERY similar thing to an old Porsche 911. He drove it into a brick shed then used it as a wrecking ball and blew it up !
thats why i say…why those tv3 fellas go and put Bush and Blair singing one song.You go and insult them ..for sure they will insult you back. *clear cut case*
What a barbarian his he. Do u think if u do the same thing to BMW or Mers and you able to drive? I think JC expecting a tank and not a car. This car is meant for low income people and the price is low. I have 1 question. If Kelisa is not equal with BMW, than why Princes Diana dies in her BMW smashed with the divider? If att all as what JC is said, the car should protect her and not smashed totally. What r u guys saying about his?
I think this guy have lot of money and free time. That's why doing all king of useless things.
Well, u guys cant comment much. He's been on a 4WD Lamborghini, took GTR33 n mistreated it with a MCLAREN F1, I dont think he give a damn to NISSAN at all.
But one thing for sure, Malaysian cars really all under QC, worst thing is we have to pay all of the hell for own tin cans cars for so expensive. Thats stupid right!?
For me, what the government does is like BULLYING his own citizen selling cars that price, on the other hand these cars doest not even met minimum requirement oversea. THIS IS SO EMBARASSING !
Tetsuo: I don't think these guys has watch many of JC's shows. I won't be suprise if this is the ONLY JC video they watch and then curse him like hell.
it's funny to read about how some of you think that JC was bomb/sledge-hammer-testing the kelisa even after NUMEROUS comments saying that he wasn't…!! hahahahahah thanks guys..thanks for making me laugh today….
Wish I hadn't seen the video. I haven't drove or rode in the Kelisa before, but I think it's an ok car, and it certainly doesn't deserve to be treated like that. What on earth, explosives?? Hell, even a Hummer wouldn't survive that!! The way he treated the car, in my opinion, is downright barbaric, disgusting and humiliating to us Malaysians and the Japanese? What is he implying? That our locally-produced cars are so inferior to the continentals they are not worthy of anything at all?!
No passion? Only concerned with making money? Oh well, at least the Kelisa is the cheapest car available in Singapore :) Nevermind it may be considered a cheapskate car by some people like Jeremy Clarkson. It's still capable of transporting 4 people from one place to another. Period.
Thank god for the more level-headed and sane posters. I thought we Malaysians are just a bunch of over-sensitive, narrow-minded, one-dimentional, dimwits, without any sense of humour and lacks any known ability to comprehend, as shown by about 70% of the idiots that commented here. What a bunch of babbling fools.
You dumb fxzxs, watch and listen to the video properly. Get the help of a dictionary or English teacher if you don't understand a blind word he says. He isn't testing the car. Get it??? He's venting his frustrations for cars that have no passion or soul. Built like whitegoods ie. washing machines or refridgerators. He does over the top things like that because that's just what he does. Who the fxzx watches people talking very politely about everything, even something they hate. Why the hell have you people no ability to laugh at yourselves? Every little thing is an insult. Every little thing have to threathen others with bodily harm. fxzxing third world mentality. Memang Malaysia Boleh. Kalau you orang punya pemikiran macam nie saja, sampai 3030 pun Wawasan 2020 tak sampai-sampai.
I drive a Kelisa and I am not the slightest annoyed by what he did. Why should I? I understand what he is trying to say and although I don't agree 100% with him, he has his points. Apart from that he has driven a hell of a lot more cars that I ever will. The matter of fact is that, for them, for around the same amount of money they could get better cars. We think the Kelisa is good because it's as good as we can get here for that kind of money. They (the Brits) don't have that problem.
Clarkson has destroyed many, many cars. You name it, he's destroyed it. And you fools thinks he's trying to target us poor Malaysians. Typical over-sensitive thinking. He has destroyed Porsches, come on…you think he'll give 2 flying fxzxs about destroying a new Kelisa? He destroys things he hates in his videos to prove his point (not to mention it is entertaining). And don't even bring that stupid argument about nationality and Brit cars. He's destroyed a lot of them too.
I don't expect many of you to even be able to understand half of what I've said. Judging from what some of you managed to grasp from that video, you would probably just think I'm swearing and insulting people. To those that can, I everyone can open our eyes wide and open your minds too. This trend I see here from the comments is worrying me as a Malaysian regarding the level of inteligence of the general populace.
hahahaha wat he did was fair enough to d kelissa la ….come on la ppl in uk they get better quality protons and kelissas as compared 2 here but still the quality cant b match to that of a honda toyota etc…..proton and perodua have been protected by the govt by imposing hefty taxes on foreign cars if not for the taxes
a accord for instance can b bought for at least 70k mayb slightly cheaper so why on earth ppl would wanna spend on a overpriced n inferior quality msian car then a good n well priced superior quality continental car. not to say i worship jc or nethin but all he did was to show his frustration on msian companys who cash in on quick profit without putting any effort on building a reasonably priced and well made piece of machinery and instead juz think bout cashing in on a quick profit i mean all car makers do have to consider making profit yet should oso do it without compromising quality and that is wat proton n perodua fail to do ….but ya could have done better things with the kelissa then to bomb it up but looked spectacular though but still would prefer it 2 b used daily although its a junk but still it can do its job from a to b… jz tat it does it without any sense of comfort or excitement as it foreign brothers….but not to say msian car companys havent made any improvement for instance the gen2 n savvy feels so much better in terms of build and performance as compared to the other old protons which felt like milo tins yet proton should still not burden ppl with their huge price tag….sorry if i offended anyone but i think that wat jc did was not absolutely wrong although it was bit dramatic way of proving a point….i dun mind using tat car or selling it off and get myself a secondhand gen2(MT) hehhe
wow..it is insulting…..
anyway…perodua is actually daihatsu with their technology……I guess daihatsu get the hit too.
also I saw the vidoe of this guy insulting savvy, he have some correct point there. it is a wake up call for proton and perodua to make good quality and cheaper car! And not depending on government tax to protect them!
Hahahahah – pwn3d.
JC is a sick man. I was not entertained watching him bash a car like that…………………with no clear objective!!! We Malaysians should work hard and make a car soon that will run over him.
Of course Perodua wants to make money.Look at many British brand most dah kaput dah. At least ours is still up and runnning.
Perodua should learn from this video, JC is right…u shouldn't spent so much money on a crappy car. To be honest, in UK u can buy a brand new VW Polo with the same price as Myvi in Malaysia. So, half of the Myvi's price is a "legal robbery" to Malaysian consumers.
Way to go, Ed. I'm with you on this one.
Just because the Kelisa is good for us doesn't mean that the car is any good.
Most of you guys (and gals, too) haven't watched many of JC's videos. You are all assuming he's after Malaysian car specifically. I've watched his yearly DVDs since 1999 and find that he tends to color his facts (and i emphasize FACTs) with very hot cili padi and his atypical british over-statement. However, most of the time, what he comments on are quite true.
And one more thing…..Noka, Princess D died in a Mercedes 280, not BMW. Trying to prove a point with the wrong point… tsk tsk tsk.
ED….
U very open mind???
hmm…
we dun u/stand of what u were saying…not even half…???
hmm….
worrying u????? what??
hmm…
we did'nt open our eyes???
hmm….
babbling fool????
hmm….
narrow minded???
hmm…..
U DRIVE a KELISA??
yes….and pitty on you….
SCREW YOU ED…..
hey dude…..
read what u have just wrote……then, make ur conclusion….
dun get too emotional here….
people are just espresing their opinion here…
In JC video…….In "his opinion", the Perodua Kelisa don't have the passion, the soul or what ever 'he' thinks fit for a care. "He" thinks that the KELISA is one of a car that is Rubbish or whatever terms "he" might called.
Hey DUDE…..That's all is just JC opinion……does'nt mean whatever opinion comes from JC mouth is FACT and we all have to follow dude….White man does'nt always right.
SCREW U ED…u are the lowest minded, dumbwit, "bodoh sombong" person i've ever come across…..U're open minded person??? No..u were just assume that u're open mind….U're clever?? No…u just assume that u're clever…U're not over sensitive?? No….U were just assume!!!! Everything that u think u have inside u…….is just U ASSUME U HAVE BUT U DONT!!
U don't believe?
PITY on YOU ED….
BTW…where do u school????? it must be a great school!
people are just expressing their opinion here…
Well at least he had very good things to say about the Exige which is in a small sense a Malaysian car. In the end don't get too worked up, Clarkson bangs all makes and models it never stops. That's what being a car critic is all about. Don't like it? Don't watch it. Just like some closed minded people say in this country.
Man epalhead and Ed having it out set! Popcorn anyone? Rm5 (import tax lah). >:D
I don't have the time of the day for people who can't read, write or comprehend properly.
It is true that Kelisa has no soul nor personality but in the land of "apa pun boleh", many of us don't have much choices.
If the remarks are from a German or a Japanese automobile critics then we should all pay good attention but when it came from the nation where the cars produced are just as questionable , then we should treat them like British joke – NOT FUNNY AT ALL!
JC is the usual Joker that he is.
But whats really funny is how people here get offended.
To the guys that get offended,
Maybe you should watch more of his shows, he bashes everything. What? you think he dont bash MG, Rover (which by the way went bust last year "because of JC" ? hahah), or Vauxhaul?
And to "epalhead" that didn't quite get what ED was saying, go and read his post again. With your response, you are the one that ended looking like a halfwit. I agree with ED word by word and with that kind of response from you, you just illustrated exactly the kind of people he was refering to.
Ppl are just way to sensitive here.
"U were just assume!!!!"
priceless….
Hahahaha WOW the car really can fly man!
but when it landed I would have tot it'll be flatten but it didn't!
the ABC pillars still intact! surprising maybe the car really lite….
Cool man if I'm a rich dude I'll run a JC clone show in Msia to trash
cars….. that's more fun than driving one !
im with you ed, a lot of people do not know or follow JC's shows and yet comment like they know so much, i've nothin else to add coz u have said it all..
epalhead. What were you trying to say? you're just bashing. Ed is giving real good comments.
by the way, why do we always have to take things so personal? A bad car is a bad car. a passionless car is a passionless car. We malaysians are not that exposed to cars, hence we cant really judge cars correctly. But the brits are dfferent, to them they have better cars in all categories, you name it, they have it. Luxury? BMW compared to Bentley? Ultimate Luxury? Maybach compared to Rolls Royce? AND DONT TELL ME BMW OWNS ROLLS ROYCE. It's Englishmen whose doing the car, with fundings from Nazis.
JC judges cars real well, but probably too far away from us malaysians. or we should call our selves mediocrans.
JC commented on BMW 1 Series and 5 series being one of the most ugliest cars in the world. Can we comment that? we cant, because reaching out to a BMW is already almost unimaginable (to many) hence when in hands, we dun feel ourselves on-par with it to judge its curves and lines.
epalhead, which school you went to? It must be a great one TOO.
bila proton kena kutuk….
Habib said,
December 17, 2005 @ 5:46 am
How to be Proud when Proton gets bashed on the international show like Top Gear. Have to dig a deep hole and stick my head in it. Perodua Kelisa got a much better review on Top Gear than a damn proton crap. Shut the damn Proton factory down.
No point making and selling junk.
bila p2 kena kutuk…. mana ini habib aaarr :-)
Yeah Ed. You made it clearer there.
It is sad isn't it, to know the kind of mindset a lot of us has.
Good going jeremey, in bashing the car that is.. WHEN WILL YOU PEOPLE WAKE UP AND REALISE ? THAT HE IS ONLY SPEAKING THE TRUTH. He's bashed down upon many other countless european marques, and not just the malaysian car (by the way, thay are indeed 5h1tty inside out) Usually it takes a say for somehting to be done, and the truth is that,. p1 and p2 are greedy mfkers that feed upon the 300% tax money tree. With that, their periuk nasi is always full, so they don't feel the need to IMPROVISE on their cars. In this case, the government's protection policy for the local automotive industry is the one to be blamed. Not jeremey. He's balding up, has a beer gut, and doesnt look half-decent as a decent englishman. So why the hate ? Please learn to swallow your pride and eliminate your ego's for once you narcisstic fanboys. P1 and P2 has the capability, resources and infrastructure to improve, but they didnt, and the worst part of it all, is they don't improve for us malaysians. Think about that for a sec before everyone starts shooting flamethrowers at each other.
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hahaha "U were just assume" i read that and it didn't even register as a sentence lol good eye
people are just expressing their opinion here…
and by the way……SCREW to english language….
i'm not in England…duhhhh….
Bob, My school is awsome…..thanks for ur concern dude..
Steady sharul…..
Yes Malaysia, see how we are in the eyes of the world. Buck up a lil corporate fools. Do it for the sake of our country, not for the sake of your bellys.
Practically this attitude is everything Malaysia, go to almost every corner of Malaysia and you get people without passion. See the food industry, tourism, technology(speaking as of yet i'm writing in the midst of Cyberjaya. and who could blame TMnet), sports, education… bla bla bla.. the list goes on and on. I hope you as a Malaysian are enlighten for once seeing this video. It would be great if your company came out with such thing and humiliate the hell out of it. I stress the new generation of Malaysian to do better… for our country…
epalhead…
exactly. people are just expressing their opinion here…u said it yourself. so turn down the hypocrism and stop screwing ed :D haha
also, the last time i checked, english wasn't only spoken in england..
relax dude..
many of you are taking this WAY to personally. as if jeremy clarkson has an ultimatum to take down malaysia. and are you people even reading the comments? malaysian cars weren't the only cars that JC bashed. pun intended. haha
Aww come on guys. Calm down.
Fine, Jeremy Clarkson doesn't like the Kelisa. So? Is it really so important for Jeremy Clarkson to like the Kelisa? Or to be polite? Or to be sensitive to Malaysians?
No I don't think so. He spoke his mind and we should just take it as that. Nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing personal there.
I drive a Saga LMST and I can bet Jeremy will shit on it too. In fact, I have friends who are habitual Proton bashers. And yet, I don't care.
In the same DVD, Heaven & Hell 2005, he screwed other vehicles too. Like the Renault Espace. And a Ford. And others, I haven't finished watching it yet. I only just downloaded the DVD just now.
I personally thought he was a little harsh. However he does have a valid point which I can't disagree with.
My point is, a lot of us apparently missed the point and a lot of us here took it a little too personally.
Chill out guys, is it really that important?
omg!~ just becoz a gay did a stupid childish thing, ya all go bashin around?
paul, this is 1 hella long 1. :)
wad i fink, hmm… actually, in a way, we should be motivated by wad he did, not insultin him. be a gentleman, gentleman use their hand instead of their mouth. gals too!
I guess I am repeating what a lot had been written but still I still have to re-emphasise my point of view.
I believe the things that JC did that got the volcanos erupted out of most readers was the way he tried to make his point of view clear…that is by destructing the Kelisa that was brand new.
Facts & comment is FINE. Criticising is Good. Sarcastic is even BETTER.
But why the need to use explosive to bring the point across.It doesn't matter which car was used in the video. I MEANT BLOWING A CAR UP !!!
Is it the norm in the 1st world country and 1st world mind ?
Pls note that I understand his comments & intention crystal clear but the bottom line is I DO NOT AGREE THE USE OF HANGING & BLOWING UP A CAR IS THE RIGHT THING.Even for cari makan & keeping the show rating up.
But then , that is my view . BTW , those that wrote to knock him down or whacked him , I think it is a fun way of showing their disgust. Those that said to lighten up with JC comment should also lighten up with these comments.
He is in UK – we are in Bolehland . How to whack? Use Tomahawk ??? Maybe
tomato first. Tomahawk coming soon – in 3030.
Have a nice day EDison , Newton , Clarson and what have you.
i drove kelisa and i love my car.
AND, car is for drive, not for war, or bang it nor demolish it.
and..as i know, kelisa was known with it fuel-saving technology.
tat is much more better than all the car out there who is doing more polution to the world.
hmm… just a tv show… interesting, but i dont feel anyhting about it. i practise non-attachment to the non-living beings… there u go.
For the record, I never said that Jeremy Clarkson is "better" than us because he was white. I couldn't care less about that. Just because I somewhat agree with him doesn't mean that I worship the ground he walks on.
And how does a show about a car have anything to do with flag burning and mentality? Buddy, you're reading way too much into this.
Yes, he is talking about the people who built the car. And who are these people who built the cars? Is it you? Is it me? Is he talking about the whole country?
No it isn't. He's talking about Perodua. Perodua is a Malaysian company, but does it represent the whole country? Of course not.
He's talking about the company. He's criticising Perodua for building a car that to him, is purely to make money. He's not criticising Malaysia and Malaysians. Only Perodua as a carmaker. How is that making fun of us? If that is so, then does that mean that every person who makes fun of Malaysian products making fun of us?
The guy is just talking about a car. That's all. No need to burn flags and all that stuff.
i own no kelisa or proton or whatever. i only have a bike. but jeremy clarkson is low consideration.. don t care what written in his resume because we can trash it.
very well said, mac
alrighty..i will now stop refreshing the page every 2 mins and get on with my life. i suggest all of you do the same.
I don't think this is fair for Kelisa, although I do admit Malaysian cars having a lot of quality issues! Try to do the same to other cars and compare it! These people are good in manipulating it. I don't really trust on what I can see here. Feel it out yourself and talk about it then. Maybe you should ask yourself that " Do the car that I drive need to pass this kind of stupid stretch test ?" Use your mind and think about that! haha….
their there r!!. what to do ,ya is what some people say r true!. just because some people wan to make profit from manufacturing n the car be come expensive been produce out!. that u have to ask some minority who (kongsi raya) joint celebration!, this people will know answer!
but jeremy clarkson r stupid, he talk n buli other!. if he stand for our side my b he will know. by the way our government have to b blame there r stupid s will same like jeremy clarkson . how this jeremy clarkson more stupid is same how our government so stupid s will!!.
agree wit u mac jz tat some ppl jz cant seem to have an open mind bout things…wat he did to the car mayb is lil brutal but nothing wrong after all its his money his wish la n besides perhaps in 10-15 years the car would have been scrapped so wat diff does it make???
Jeremy's right about one thing, Malaysians have got no passion in the things they do. And i mean in whatever thing they do !
Man….i love it when Paul create a sensitive topic…
so many people responded…..
lol
too lazy to read all the comments
but it's weird why people would think that we, malaysians are being targetted by some brit gwai lo who used to occupy our lands, our women, our wine, blablabla
wake up n smell the rotting roses lah. if we cannot take a little criticism at how our national car manufacturer thingjamony produces our cars that are on the road locally and exported to other countries, might as well balik kampung tanam jagung.
kthxbai
wahahaha…rileks la all of the mamats in the land named malaysia..dont argue la…past is past….sini bergaduh jeremy is happily laughing..while detonating another malaysian or korean car…dia punya duit yang habis..bukan duit kita..produa made an easy sale that day
lol what is with these retards lack of intelligence to comprehend what JC msg
roflmao they actually think JC was testing the car with the bombs and hammer lol ..
jeremy……jeremy…..jeremy…..
wish this guy will never do this kind of thing on our national cars any more.
His actions was abit too much, but he made some sense though. They make cars to make money ONLY. Thats true, but British buggers are dipshit burgers.
well, this jeremy here has a point… the malaysian made cars are still far away from their european counterparts..dont forget, proton's ceo once said the waja will be as good as the BMW 3-series… i dont think its at that level yet…
I'm confused with Paul's blog now (especially this post). Looks like more to a forum now to me.
Adoi I got very2 bad headache! Too many comments… :(
am i bashing??? ED not?
REALLY???????
HAHA….
Thanks for reminding…i agree wit u..english is not spoken just in England..but elsewhere. But…This is Malaysia dude….and do france speak english? tell me? do Japan speak english? tell me? i found that the problems with some malaysians (not all but u definitely) was so proud for being able to speak or write english well…why?
Do u really reads Ed comment…i neither agree nor disagree on his opinion since he's just throwing his opinion….but by using harsh words…..that i dun agree. DEFINITELY. He was bashing dude. Pity on u HAHA for not being able to differentiate between harsh words and opinion.
Screw to English….This is not an English class….Screw you!
You Mou Kau ….Chou!
Hahaha good one JC…. thanks for getting yet another perodua off the road
Hey Come On lar Jeremy! No cars is going to survive with that dynamite! Isn't what he had just did to our Kelisa is a bit too bias? In fact, in Malaysia, Kelisa is a very good car compare to the same price range Proton car. Anyone who ever drived a Kelisa would certainly understand what it means. Sure there are some good things on the car but why is he just wanted to point the poor features out? Pay for what you get. With that kind of price, what is he expecting? Supercharged Mini Cooper? He just bought the car not even one day. How can he say that the car sucks? By putting a dynamite below it and expecting nothing to happen after explosion? This is a sucks test. This movie means nothing at all other than his own bias towards Malaysia automobile industry.
Hi paul, you too stress huh?
although i think its a little unfair the perodua kelisa is being treated this way i agree with him on companies selling cars that have no passion in their products..
no wonder we cant improve. Jeremy Clarkson is doing hell of a good job. Our P1 and P2 however, ain't. P1 worse.
this white ppl memang cam tu lah..i watched all 3 seasons of the top gear..almost all car not satisfied him..one episod of the program when he kutuk one of the ford car..but he got one what after a while..gila ini orang..he also not satisfied with the bmw..even all the bmw's car kene kutuk by him..he is british and always be british..paham2 je lah..dough!!
this guy had even put on curses to SLR, CLK and Citroens. Not to mention all the toyotas except for celica and mrs.Volvos too had been his victim. so, why bother?
I loathe to write a another bloody long winded comment but the stuff I'm reading here is just ridiculous.
And I won't even address one dumb f834wit because he is just another idiot. You know who you are.
To Zarul: You seem convinced that some of us associate white or western with superiority and that we are incapable of judging things logically and/or rationally. That is just genius, way to go. And then you associate blowing up a car with flag burning? You bring up points about the white man trying to divide and conquer (LOL). Look mate, you are definitely reading too much into it.
Firstly, the morality stand point. Different people have different standards regarding morality. Although there and some core values that are shared, it varies across countries and culture. What you find offensive might not be offensive to somebody else. It is just what you associate a certain thing with. To you, the Kelisa is also attached with the labels, national car, national pride, being Malaysian, etc, that kind of thing (this may not be what you are really thinking but I'm just using this as an example) so somebody destroying this icon fo what it stands for to you may seem like blasphemy. So you feel offended and I'm sure the other who were angry thought along the same lines. But Clarkson isn't a Malaysian, barely knows where it is and frankly I don't think he could be bothered. To him, the Kelisa was a car and he was thinking of it as a car. Not a national symbol of some sort. There is nothing political about it. It just so happens it isn't a car he likes very much. So he went and proved his point. So what seemed offensive to you in your perspective may not be the sort of offense he was expecting. Of course he should realise that his actions will definitely irk quite a lot of people, namely, those associated with Perodua because that's what he wanted to do ie. get them to buck up and make better cars. I don't think he meant to offend a nation and neither does he care, really. Burning a nations flag on the other hand is obvious enough what you are trying to do, so don't make daft comparisons.
All things said, it is up to us to look at it the way we choose and to me I don't think there is any point in getting flustered over it. It is not as if he deliberately wanted to insult us as a nation. Why not be a bit magnanimous and take it in our stride as just another criticism. Be less sensitive and more open minded. Wouldn't it be better if we laugh with the rest of the world and set about making a better car and shutting him up. That would be a way to react as befits an educated and cultured country, no? Getting angry, sore, personal and vindictive just reflects bad on ourselves.
Next, I don't want to go into the subject of agreeing with his opinion or not, because of course there would be people who are with him on this or not. It is just his opinion, not the word of god. So, if you have points to refute his, whoopeedoo. Go ahead and knock yourself out. Anybody who just swallows the things they see, read or hear whole and cannot proceed to form their own judgement and opinions are just dumb f834s who I can't be bothered with. Whether he is British, white, has a great show etc. does not sway my thoughts. What does is if what he says has substance and in most cases, I do see substance.
Next, anybody with half a brain should know by now that HE IS NOT TESTING THE CAR. For godsake stop the stupid comments like, "BMW will also explode lar…" etc. If you cannot understand something as simple as this, please go back to school.
On to the point regarding Malaysian buyers. I think they are now savvy (no pun intended) enough to choose what they want wisely. And they have enough purchasing power now to buy more expensive cars. We don't have to let Proton or Perodua ram whatever they make down our throats. We can make sound decisions based on our needs and budget. Of course, there will always be this notion that Malaysian goods are inferior to imports. That's just something Proton and Perodua have to change by proving to the consumers (who aren't stupid) that they are making quality goods.
Finally, I've had enough of stupid statements like, "We should be grateful that we are in Malaysia and not some 3rd world African country blah, blah…" and "We shouldn't compare with developed countries blah blah…we are still developing…". Yes, we are luckier than a lot of other people and for that we should be grateful, but the problem is we use this as an excuse for ourselves to rest on our laurels. It is no good if we keep trying to convince ourselves that we are actually quite good or good enough. We are trying to be a developed country therefore, we should aim for as high a target as we can find. If somebody is better, we need to be as good if not better. They work hard, we work harder. Because we are behind, we need to catch up. No point looking behind you and feel relief because there are plenty of others behind you. Look forward and be motivated because there are other in front of you.
OK, I'm getting carried away here and I think I should really stop. But anyway…there you go.
Good one Ed. But as i say, there will still be alot of these people who will linked everything up and then go on to chaining up patriotism, national flag, religion into it. Just because they themselves are stupid, dumb, nincompoops.
By the way, Kelisa is quite ok by RM35k standards, oh, only in Malaysia. Nevertheless way better than Tiara then…..
Well said Ed… Perodua or Proton or Vauxhaull or Volvo… if there's something not good about it, Then there is something not good about it. hey, I drive a Proton and if i need to bitch about it, I will and I did. So does other owners….
Why can't Jeremy say things when we ourself say "Fook laaa my kancil aircon switch always spoilt"… "Hey… proton power windows sucks?".
Since like we are getting more and more like our neighbour issit?
Jeremy Clarkson sucks too in a way that he overdone the test. Just another media gimmick don't you agree? Entertaining indeed while he won't do that… IN FRONT OF THE POPE!
just another way for mat salleh to prove that they are too arrogant and ignorant to accept the fact that asians are as good as them, though the car might lack quite a lot of basic offerings that a car should have and the price paid is not reflected by the car's quality, but anyway they don't need to specifically target a car made by asians.
cause as far as i'm concern there are also lots of europeans car that are complete flops….but i've never seen him blow them up…
To Zarul: Frankly I would love to sit you down and continue this discussion over a cup of teh tarik or something, cause I can't be bothered wasting more time typing a long winded comment, on someones blog, that not many people will bother reading anyway.
Hope you will at least consider what I have written, as baseless as they are, and as uncivilised as I am because I keep swearing, of course…because blowing stuff up, profanity, sex, violence is all pretty much uncivilised.
And, because I don't have a single fact to come out with right now, I'm going to end by swearing for no apparent reason…retard…moron….idiot…shit for brains…halfwit…dog face…elephant breath…lamb stew…roti canai…sup ekor…char kuey teow…
It has been a pleasure.
omfg. i feel like closing this post's comments.
actually now that i've re-watched the video, if you listen to what jeremy clarkson said properly, i think he actually meant the manufacturer had no passion when creating the car, not the car itself having no passion.
"it's built with no soul, no flair, no passion"
you could interpret it as the car having no soul, or the build process having no soul. of course, we'll never know which one he meant.
damn i can't help but respond.
epalhead….
i never said that i "was so proud for being able to speak or write english well". you assume too much…jumping to conclusions and getting worked up over nothing. it DEFINITELY does NOT make you look like an uneducated halfwit. i repeat, it DOES NOT MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE AN UNEDUCATED HALFWIT. DOES NOT. U were just assume!!!!
yes, Ed did used harsh words in his comments. but were you not doing the same thing? and again with me. you PITY me "for not being able to differentiate between harsh words and opinion"??? who do you think you are? an english teacher? Eat your own words you hypocrite ( http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hypocrit… )
at least Ed was using it to emphasize his opinion and not purely to cause offense.
maybe i shouldn't be too hard on you. you probably have a good point and aren't able to put it down in words the way your minds sees it. screw to the english language right? if only you believed that..then you wouldn't be able to understand the clip and get overly offended by it….then you wouldn't be able to make any comments making you sound like an idiot.
so..in your very own 'non-harsh' words and in my 'opinion'. SCREW U. SCREW U for making me stoop this low.
Ma Chou Hai. piss me off
Everyone else,
Sorry for entering a non-constructive and non-topic-related comment. I never meant for this to get personal. stubborness in ppl is one of my pet peeves
Paul's Note: next time don't stoop so low then. things are already heated as it is about the video, stop making personal attacks on each other.
lol.. sokong la this guy p2 owners! he kutuk-ed savvy what the other day?? eh, why? dun wanna sokong him edi? -_-"
y dont Jeremy try on Honda Civic or Accord (maybe this type of car is expensive for him to demo) do the same thing smash the car using hammer hang 1 ton metal infront of the car and used dynamite to bomd that car see got any different no need Ferrari is too expesive for u to demo lame ass
he think all the ppl rich like him if we got $$$$$ i sure not buying a kelisa i will got for my dream car Impreza …..
Alot of you are missing the point JC was trying to make, he is making a stand against manufacturers who are only intent on making profits, it just happends to be a kelisa, he is not attacking Malaysians.
And by blowing it up, he doesnt mean that other cars can survive that sort of abuse…its just to make a point. lighten up ppl, you guys take it way too seriously….if it had been a Cherry or a Geely..would you guys have cared?
actually lol at those who didn't actually get the message… :P
And Perodua’s usual practice – copycat other manufacturer’s car and modify and change the tag to “Peroduaâ€.
iam not agree with this sentence
"perodua is not copy cat" actually did u know Perodua is under
Daihatsu and get license under them even our Perodua engine is from Daihatsu , also under Toyota …. if u dunno anything dont act u r clever or wut ever pls used brain if perodua just copy here n there u think that company not sue them soo long Perodua in market 10 years.
Y u dont say NAZA RIA copy KIA CARNIVAL :)
just my 2 cents
first time leaving a comment here. I just had to leave a comment here after reading some of the comments (particularly those with statements like "no cars would survive such tests", and also epalhead's comments). I totally agree with Ed and haha. For goodness sake, it was not a test on the durability of the car..he was just venting his frustrations on "passionless" car makers. Of course its a lil over the edge and all (any sane person knows that no car would survive such tests). And oh yea…epalhead's comments (this is not england, this is malaysia) left me in stitches. This perfectly demonstrates why Malaysia will find it difficult to achieve the 2020 vision.
When JC throw negative remarks on Proton Savvy last time, our Malaysian been forwarding the video, some bashing, some laughing and some even said JC is a credible guy even he didn't even test drive the car… *sad* but forgiven.
Now, JC 'attack' Perodua Kelisa… believe me, it is just another day for his 'TV Show' and 'Media Coverage'. All his comments is just his 'Personal Opinion' and solely for entertainment purposes only.
So P1 or P2 supporters and all neutral readers..
Forgive JC… because I still believe 'what goes around comes around'
Have a nice day ahead
what make u think kelisa is good?. there have two type of quality that we have . when come to export n locally the quality is much more different! if u see it before. export type more low price then we have here for local version but export more quality!. so that means our government r wiping n clean foreigner butt!. n government r giving us a shit!.
Build car with passion, spirit n no commercial value ???? hahahahah no wonder all british enginer car is belonging to other country …..
Lotus own by which country ???
I've always said that JC is just a balding fat bloke with no taste, but is a very good journalist and a TV presenter, knowing how to get good ratings for his show. His sarcasm and cynical remarks is fun to watch, which is one of the reasons that has made Top Gear well knowned throughout the world. he is fun to watch and to be heard, but no one in their right minds actually give a crap to what he says. He even confessed in his latest column that his views on cars change like the number of times he change his clothes. All he's doing is for the sake of his DVD, and at the same time having some fun doing something unorthodox, like playing with dynamite, and hanging cars upside down. He doesn't care about how people would react or anything, as long as the DVD sales are up. He doesn't even care about his audience in Top Gear. I say this from my own personal experience, because when I went to the recording, at the end of everything, he was the first person to leave the site. Unlike Richard Hammond and james May who spent sometime mingling with the crowd. So stop this madness of trying to argue with each other and clog up Paul's blog. Try to see the funny side of all his madness and try to enjoy it. If you can't do that then don't take things too personally. As I said, he's just a balding fat guy with no taste, and no one actually gives a crap on his views.
hmm… heated arguments eh? sigh… some ppl wont want to learn and then some ppl just wouldnt give up…
Hatuk dowan join in, even though Hatuk alredi choose which side is the correct side for me…
back to topic, for god's sake it's just a show… an entertainment show, not a car review show, damnit!!! can u ppl stop taking it so personally and stoop so low to argue over some other ppl's foolishness? Malaysian polite konon…
wake up and smell the coffee!
i just say one words lame ass
he think UK is damm smart some more UK not even have their own car that made in UK
just my 2 cents
My word, this is really getting out of hand. Paul, I'm really sorry that this post is tunring into a zoo.
To the rest of us, let's live and let live and agree to disagree, ok?
I got an idea, let's make a video featuring a British made car being pounded upon and finally blown up by some home-made firecrackers (Chinese New Year around the corner. Shouldn't have a problem getting the gunpowder).
We can use a really old Jaguar from the scrapyard or even a condemmed Mini since nwe won't be able to afford a new one. I bet if every one of the contributors here put up 50 bucks each, we can probably buy one.
C'mon, whaddya say? We can post the video to Top Gear.
the problem here is that most of u still dont get the point of why he destroyed that car..not because it was malaysian but because it was a useless piece of jjunk…
please watch the full DVD…he destroys a Renault espace, citroen, etc..
the dvd is called HEAVEN AND HELL.
he has every right to criticize..
heh..the ammount of ppl her who mindlessly defend perodua are truly funny.
ya la… kereta saja dah bising-bising macam ni… kalau manusia, anak malaysia kena bom, kena tukul, kena kutuk, Hatuk boleh paham la….
tapi ni… benda tak bernyawa… pulak yang jadi pujaan, bagaikan kereta tu ada watak tersendiri, bagaikan ianya manusia, di sayangi dan di puja… dosa…dosa…
Jeremy Clarkson's point is Third World Countries can make decent quality cars for exports. Can't wait to see him blowing up a Proton
i seriously think this gotta stop..its way stupid!!paul..just close the comment section for this article..helpz everyone!
the blowing up of the car damn amusing la..cant stop laughing…..
the blowing up of the car damn amusing la..cant stop laughing…..
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Don't worry, Proton will be next. lol
JC might hate tt P2 copy their mini cooper design… tt's y he said "Build car with passion, spirit n no commercial value"… simple tt he may wan to stress P2 to build on its own design..
He use to burn nissan sunny in one episode. He only likes expensive cars and has a big ego and head. Hope NST (Sunday Times) kick out his article, never like to read his ariticle anyway, only about his opinions.
so many posting liao..!
lazy to read..!
Why do people car so much about this? Jeremy is an entertainer and that was the aim of this segment.
My personal opinion is that a 'white goods on wheels' no matter how cheap it is does not constitute a car. A car should be desirable and interesting even 'tactile'. How bout the crash safety of that ugly car, active and passive? I dont care how poor you are, ppl deserve better than this. In Australia cars like that fail to sell because the public knows 'quality'. In fact any malaysian car here is put in the 'shit' bin. Including those ugly sangyyong things.
BTW, ppls engish here is so bad its funny!
thats why la.. we dont need to proud to go there (their country) we must proud of our country.. apa org kata.. org kita bangga sangat org luar.. org luar huh hampeh nak bangga dan tak byk ler .. minta kita hormat sikit.. hampeh..
apa kata org kita pulak cakap minyak wangi diaorg tak best.. (harap ler) org kita ni beli barang dari luar semua cakap bagus.. tengok sendiri ler apa org luar buat kat barang kita.. org kita ni mmg hampeh jugak.. dia tu tau.. tak semua org akan kutuk dia .. hampeh
Well, whocares how JC insulting P2 cars. He is just trying to get attention for his show and M'sians still living in jungle clearance?..lol. Anyway, he is being driving all kind of luxury and exotic cars around the world. No doubt, if compared it to M'sian cars, it is really heaven and hell.
What sadden me is that even our own citizens are having the same mindset as him.Eventhough car industries have been gone through a large revolution from 3 wheels till today's technology, ask yourself this question. What is the main purpose of a car? A Kelisa may not have much safety features, but it's realiable enough to bring you from location A to B without a breakdown.
Your car may have ABS and SRS airbags, but will it really save you when an accident occur? Airbags may save you when the vehicle is at headon collision, how about side collision at the passengers' door? Example, at the T-Junction.
My assumption is that those keep bashing how crappy a Kelisa is, can't even prove it with a fact. Most likely they are envy how realiable, low fc , and low maintenance a Kelisa is. Why envy again? Coz Kelisa owners only paying RM500 installments per month instead RM1,500+ , but yet able to perform its main function as a car. Not to mention roadtax, maintenance and petrol is atleast 30-50% cheaper than most cars on the road. Kelisa owners will save alot in the long run. Another positive point I'd like to mention is that, you do not have to worry much your car is being stolen. I had seen a sub-luxury car putting double steering locks and a brake lock pedal at the same time when parked at the roadside. If you have no balls, don't drive a luxury car.
HAHA…..
your quote "haha said,
December 20, 2005 @ 9:37 pm
very well said, mac
alrighty..i will now stop refreshing the page every 2 mins and get on with my life. i suggest all of you do the same."
look who's talking dude!!
U've allready eaten ur own words…..
who's being hypocrite here…u or me??? Dude..stop pulling my leg…..
catch u later…..
bangang!!!.. dah kete murah takkan gune enjin Vtec, brek ABS, ade Air bag.. ingat perodua ferrari.. one more time.. BANGANG!!!!
JC…How about other car???… China…
some of you guys sucks.. dont tell me that you guys are not sensetive at all.. everyone is sensetive.. what's wrong with that? .. dont try to say other people sensetive until you see yourself first.. jeremy clarkson is a bloody old man.. hes not normal anymore.. soo let him do whatever he wants before he die… LOL.. wtf?
sorry zarul.. im not talking bout you.. i support you.
I pun tak suka what they do to that Kelisa…tapi I pun tak suka P1 & P2 enjoy protectionism. Because of P1 & P2 I cannot drive better car even though I know I can afford it if not for the shit…, mother f….r, p…i m…k tax.
Padan muka …If possible ask Jeremy to send the car back to Perodua and ask him to bash another Proton….
Kena protect industri kita… macam negara barat protect industri pertanian mereka.
This asshole has no credibility or so whatever to criticize the car and none of the testing he did was legitimate. He is such a low life and he is wasting of time watching him banging the car like a monkey.
BY THE WAY TO YOU KNOW JAG IS A SHITTY TO CAR TO DRIVE. THE CAR HAS BEEN TO THE SHOPE MORE THAN I HAVE BEEN TO TOILET.
alah you guys take it in too much… its just british humour dont think he is targeting malaysian or asian cars … the proton gti got a good review he just says it as it is… we malaysians got to accept it when ppl say it is crap we make it better not … ppl say its crap we hantam them for it… and then come out with another crap car bcs we dont want to hear the bad stuff
this post has the best comments EVARRR
Zarul…
yup i've watched it… and doesnt all of us know that our perodua range is copied from japs daihatsu? so we should not takes his words like it's a direct hit to us malaysians…
Paul , before you close this topic ,can we just do a fast poll to come to a conclusion on the summary of the hundreds of comments that are written.
Reasons , opinions , lectures , anger , beautiful obsecenities and even language lessons had been thrown in .
Come on guys : lets put a vote to end this. How about that.
1) JC IS FULL OF SHIT
2) JC IS RIGHT ON
3) I HAVE NO CLUE . I AM A CANDLE IN THE WIND.
Pls vote without comments. I think we have enough already.
My vote is 1.
dudes.. its trash TV at best, so why get all worked out over it? you wouldnt get offended if you watched "Jackass" nor would you be troubled with the glorification of infidelity on "Jerry Springer", now would you?
sheesh. talk about the emo generation.
o my good god!
anyone with a brain stem can see that this car is terrible. Clarkson is write 2 insult it!
u morons need to come to europe and see what a GOOD car is!
that is to say, not some 2penny aesthetically challenged re-incarnated japanese cast-off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Probably this is a 850 cc SOHC Kelisa (look at the bumper and rims). I saw one show that praise the Kelisa 1000 cc DOHC as a fun car to drive… the comment was from the other presenter of Top Gear who drove the car.
Well, perodua pricing maybe cheap as compared to the rest of the manufacturers thus quality isnt as sound. U paid for what you get. this
'benny hill' fella dont even comprehensive the basic of marketing segment..crap A-hole!
What he's trying to prove anyway. well, most of UK car manufacturers went broke….jaguar,rover all got acquisition…wahhaha
Index up against U!
Zarul,
Pity you, lah. Although I couldn't read all the comments (so many, will take me hours to finish them), I get your "point"!
And your point is, there was no point! It was purely done for entertainment. The unfortunate part is, he used a Kelisa. If he had used some other car, then we would all have a good laugh and this post wouldn't receive over 200 comments on it.
I'm no fan of Proton but I think Perodua makes some decent cars. Trouble is, cars are so expensive in Malaysia, we can't afford the ones that are built with "passion". In the UK however, cars are cheap and they can buy the ones with so-called passion.
Let's do a poll, let's list the cars we think are built with passion and then we'll be able to gauge what some of the contributors think it's all about. But please don't confuse passion with pride and efficiency because the German cars will win hands down in that category.
My vote goes to Alfa Romeo (the new ones are nice).
imbecile brit.By killing a kelisa he's insulting us who just can't afford better cars .I drive a 850 kelisa because its cheap and is a fuel saver too.mine can go 142km with only rm10 on highways.Few weeks ago,I filled the gas tank full for rm40,zeroed the travel meter and went to Perak.then by the time i'm back in KL,when the fuell gauge is empty, the travel meter read 570km.how's that for a change.better than kancil on fuel consumption. damn nice car.
Moron……… enuff said
walau…..well done jeremy….
at least you did prove how bad malaysian made cars are…should try with the savvy…and compare them with a mercedes or bmw….show us what you've gotta prove…..i hope the top people up there from the malaysian car industry sees this…they'll surely hire some better employees or..maybe….the ceo.
This movie is not funny at all .. but some comments here make me laugh .. hahaha ..
aiyoo, read more and more, now I know, there's a fight going on .. hahaha .. come on la .. this what's happened when we praised too much on material world .. mcm budak2 sekolah laa ..
anyway, it does entertain me ..
..keliso tak keliso,,keto tak ketoo..lawak omputih ni weehh..kalo aku jumpa kat msia, aku suro dia bom keta jiran aku,, dok showww keliso dio jooo..hohoohohoh…meryy krismoooossssss
we protect our national car is that proton give us money o any benefit?, but proton give us a shit n that shit we need n have to buy it even this proton is our national car but what this proton do to us! u think!….
protect proton is till the limit till now, at less do some thing to our Malaysian but is to far but only burden us!. but is a time!, we protect proton is like protect a son who do criminal!!!. so what u all think ? , sand them to prison o still protect till, will bring us all down at 1 day!
I've got to say that some of the responses here are typically Malaysian. For example, "Ingat Mat Salleh ni pandai sangat" is often heard here together with a diatribe on the Mat Salleh's own faults. I read a funny one here who went so far so to make references to the Gulf War.
Why is it that some feel that we should only start to correct our faults if and when the Mat Sallehs correct theirs? Thats stupid. Why should that be the catalyst for improvement?
I think the correct attitude should be to be introspective and look to our own improvement, the Mat Salleh's be damned. Do you really believe the Mat Salleh's are too clever? Of course not. Even they don't think so. And yet there are plenty of things we can learn from them as you have to admit no one has a monopoly of good ideas.
One things for certain JC says it like it is. Oh sure, the method of expression is grossly exaggerated but hey, lets all have a sense of humour. Whats so wrong with having a laugh? Are we all so insecure about ourselves and our abilities as Malaysians that humour totally escapes us?
Have you ever seen Japanese people take criticisms? They don't launch a counter attack against the criticizer. In fact, they take notes! Because they want to know how to improve, for they know a better product is one that satisfies customers, sells better and makes more profits.
Taking criticisms in the right manner whether polite or overblown shows confidence in one's own self. To cry and counter attack is childish. I'd rather Perodua build better and cheaper cars thank you very much. And in general, I'd rather see all of Malaysia simply doing a better job.
This is an insult.
The pathetic tests he did on the cars, particularly on the Kelisa didn't make sense at all. Come on, what other cars could endure that kind of ridiculous tests? The bombing, the pressuring, the hammering. Dude, if I hammer the Mercedes the way he did, don't think it's going to end up still looking pretty.
This freaking Jeremy whatever name of his stupid family who gave birth to this old fart with severe brain damage should just get his head and arse all checked up! Let us test drive him, ride him like a cow, tie his bloody neck with a dumbell and lift it up with a crane. If he's not torn apart, I will be sure to explode his arse with dynamites.
Don't ever let me see him on the road, else there goes Kelisa running over his face to prove if he or the Kelisa is stronger.
Great credentials so-called, but only earn his fame through controversy. So what if he's recognised, but out of 50 people who know of him only 1 is his fan?
To be honest, I never believe in local cars either, but at least the Malaysian companies deserve some respect for making it happen. Think about it, for some of you out there who feel that Proton and Perodua are not good enough with what they've produced for the people of the country, why don't you guys do something? Be a better engineer or car maker rather than sitting here, watching the sick review and getting all entertained?
Has this being brought up to the attention of the local media? If not, I will!
*/ TS Lee
Jeremy is a real terrorist isn`t it? Bush xnak gi attack Britain pulak ke?of course not…
This may turn out to be Paul's comment with the best turnout, judging by the sheer amount of comments posted by ppl on both sides of the fence. I've been following this for the past week and respectfully I list my summary here.
First of all, we are all jaguh kampung here, just like the mat-motor that is proudly protective of his kapchai, eventhough deep inside, he knows his bike sucks and all he really wants is a superbike. He know this, and yet when some out-of-towner points out that his bike is no good, he gets all upset and wants to pick a fight over it – never realising for a moment that what was said might be true – for he only remembered the way that it was said and not what was said.
Secondly, Malaysian's English is atrocious it's funny. There's a comment there that say we're not in England, so it's ok to speak bad English. Even a Malaysian corporation does the the same. In fact, in the very same video, JC showed the Perodua Kelisa's brochure that list a colour choice as "Spakling Silver". If you can't notice the error there, it's alright coz we're not in England (Sarcasm heavily included).That, my friend, is exactly the source of the hullabaloo here. It's no longer about the car. We know we're bad in some stuff (just like our cars) but when people point it out to us, we're all up in arms about it, getting defensive, mat-salleh-don't-know-bullcrap-and-malaysian-should-be-patriotic thingy.
One last thing before i leave this comment forever. Zarul Sharin, are you a stockholder of Perodua or are you a passionate employee of Perodua? Hell, judging by the ferocity & instantaneity of you responses, you might even be Perodua's newly hired CEO. (Are you?)
To Zarul Sharin, Epalhead & co, I salute your patriotism towards Malaysia…….. I'm a patriot too but I'm not blind….
even we can take note o not , we is not a right person. u n me is the same. we cant do anything but only can see the true is this minority in car industry r prove there r stupid n not doing will to our Malaysians!, but only know how to kongsi raya( joint celebration)!. the more to protect proton till more then 20 years is the more wested our national money. is a easy money for proton to wested but stupid is us Malaysians to pay more Tex!.
guys, dont waste your time giving advice for those who got a big ego, never take advice, purely blind pretended to be a patriotic gung ho and having problem of trying to think further aka katak bawah tempurung. the type of person who will perfectly die for sometin stupid and useless and only be regret after he got rest in hell or one of his near family members suffer from the one he being keep on defending from truth. for god sake, please learn sometin and put your pride a side for a while.you would never contribute anything to your own country by doing so and the proton will keep on be a looser.what a shame.
the type of person who will perfectly die for sometin stupid and useless and only be regret after he got rest in hell or one of his near family members suffer from the one he being keep on defending from truth. for god sake, please learn sometin and put your pride a side for a while.you would never contribute anything to your own country by doing so and the proton will keep on be a looser.what a shame.
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I believe in fate rather than how reliable a car is. I had seen numerous European cars being totalled wrecked. None survived. How you able to explain that? If you are fated to go to hell, you can't escape even when you are driving a ferrari. That it.
whoever said,
December 24, 2005 @ 10:22 pm
I believe in fate rather than how reliable a car is. I had seen numerous European cars being totalled wrecked. None survived. How you able to explain that? If you are fated to go to hell, you can’t escape even when you are driving a ferrari. That it.
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u believe in fate rather than how reliable a car is?.
> but that is a fate at less have standardise n improvement that been prove out whit the standard!.
dont no nothing about fate !.
now that is what malaysian made of. those who is totally put their believe in fate and do nothing! LAZY BUMPS you fool! nevertheless you got among the highest sky-crap but you'r entering it wearing shoes made from leave.
even monkey can be train to be sometin but your junk brain cant even absorb anything.what a pathetic citizen of a country.keep on your 'good' job and i'm really waiting to see a new colonization event in history.
revver,
Don't act like a smart ass. You want to improve M'sian cars industries?
Inventing new technologies required large sums of money. Don't just talk craps without contributing a single penny. P1 & P2 cars may be steel scraps, but atleast, much better and reliable than public transports.
'whoever whatsoeverand would be never', should you ask yourself where on earth do your taxes go for?. start using your brain.And for me, malaysian had not even been contributing their money but their life as well for the whole almost 20 years!Tell mr whatsoever, what did and do your p1 or p2 give/gave to the loyaltees? Nothing. Urrgghh.. just give me the oxygen mask.
Wake up bro..don't just keep dreaming. I do not know when are you going to satisfy with Malaysian cars. Do you want a Kelisa to perform on par with BMW and Merz, but you paying 1/10 of it? What you pay is what you get. Don't compare in UK, you can buy Fiat Panda, etc etc with that price. Either migrate there or stop whining here.
would you mind deduct all the duties applied on each car? thank you.And thank you for helping THE thief grabbing our money without mercy. a very kind of you. God help malaysia and it's err..whatever. sigh.
whoever said,
December 25, 2005 @ 1:00 pm
Wake up bro..don’t just keep dreaming. I do not know when are you going to satisfy with Malaysian cars. Do you want a Kelisa to perform on par with BMW and Merz, but you paying 1/10 of it? What you pay is what you get. Don’t compare in UK, you can buy Fiat Panda, etc etc with that price. Either migrate there or stop whining here.
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u Wake up bro..don’t just keep dreaming.
u r the citizen that miserables n follow back of my ass.
u r talking to far away like we r no brand n not ever to think ,
Do we want a Kelisa to perform on par with BMW and Merz in now day s we can see?! if there can why dont, then we will salute u p1 n Malaysia car industry, so who behind of that ?is our government n politician! .
but how , now the car not even wort that kind of price n what we pay of 1/10 if there r but there not!. at lees not that far compare to other .
if u r PM sure Malaysia will be turn to become like indon!. so person like u who Malaysia not been need in long run , Malaysia r going up not a dumping ground like person like u!. at lees we migrate have some 1 need us but if u i dont think so, cause your mind r dumping ground type of person! . fillow my ass .
who give u a right to tell us to migrate!. Malaysian will loos cause have person like u. i think a place like u sud b Indonesia but u at wrong place men so u sud migrate! i think.
I disagree with Jeremy Clarkson. I think he over stepped his boundaries as a car critique.
Of course car manafacturers exist to make profits. How many brands are there left in the world who makes cars for the sake of soul and art?
If JC wanted soul, hell, he can go with an Aston Martin. Then he should talk soul. When critiqueing a Kelisa, he should consider the many poorer people who needs a car in UK.
u Wake up bro..don’t just keep dreaming.
u r the citizen that miserables n follow back of my ass.
u r talking to far away like we r no brand n not ever to think ,
Do we want a Kelisa to perform on par with BMW and Merz in now day s we can see?! if there can why dont, then we will salute u p1 n Malaysia car industry, so who behind of that ?is our government n politician! .
but how , now the car not even wort that kind of price n what we pay of 1/10 if there r but there not!. at lees not that far compare to other .
if u r PM sure Malaysia will be turn to become like indon!. so person like u who Malaysia not been need in long run , Malaysia r going up not a dumping ground like person like u!. at lees we migrate have some 1 need us but if u i dont think so, cause your mind r dumping ground type of person! . fillow my ass .
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I do not understand what the hell you talking about.
If you are filthy rich enough, just get a foreign car. Why bother how poor quality M'sian cars now.
Do you think you keep bashing local cars able to improve any situation? Import taxes on foreign cars will still impose. Be more realistic.
I disagree with Jeremy Clarkson. I think he over stepped his boundaries as a car critique.
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Lots of ppl here still worship him like a God, eventhough he is making us like a clown.
whoever said,
December 26, 2005 @ 3:40 am
I disagree with Jeremy Clarkson. I think he over stepped his boundaries as a car critique.
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Lots of ppl here still worship him like a God, eventhough he is making us like a clown.
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is not making us like a clown.
making us like a clown, is us our government n people n person like u who dont have mirror it home n see your self. is u your self do to your self!. if u r PM i think Malaysia 100 years still the same like who ur clown!!. we asap a critic we 1 improven n reasonable if that is true not for we still the same so what for this blog other wise we have public speaker like Singapore! clown!. that why i say Malaysia r loosing have people like u, dumping ground. we need improvement in society. is a time proton to weak up, proton now not only sale in Malaysia but export so if our Malaysians n u your self know how proton r , how about other that make u n our product can b export. that is true what Jeremy Clarkson r saying!.
if u dont no anything u just find out how other car industry manufacturing r doing in term of anything like there Cos , product , quality n standard. be reasonable even our car industry in Malaysia dont have crash test to b done!!. if u dont no.
I don't think it's quite a fair comparison between cheap cars and expensive cars….. Believe me…. If you ride in any car…. Accident do happens…. As long as it stil runs on petrols…. But however, unfortunately… i have to agree with a thing that Jeremy said…. Malaysian car is build by a corporation that wants to make money… not by a person who wants to make cars…. You can compares our technology with other cars technology… we are so left behind…. It's like we don't have any creativity on making cars… Well, we still have to look into some matters that we can actually looked into ourself first… But the best thing is… Looked into ourself before we complaints about others… Cheers!
Anonymous1.. i hate you!
hm…
akoo suka tengok mamat nih punye komen dalam top gear tu
sebab dia punye komen honest
tak de cover punye
kalau best cakap best
kalau tak best
dia cakap tak best
so…
maybe offense kpd orang lainla kot…
tapi kalau destroy kereta kelisa nih…
tak terkomen plak
tapi…
reputasi perodua agak buruk skit kat UK (kalau tak silap akoo la…)
sebab perodua tak bagi kerja sama pada banyak majalah permotoran kat UK
utk bagi chance utk test kereta dia…
kalau tengok dalam satu majalah CAR ke ape..
memang kutuk abis punye kelisa
dia samakan kelisa dengan vacuum cleaner..
majalah tu ade kat umah akoo
akoo pon beli back dated (keluaran tahun 2002)
RM 5 masa KL book fair kat PWTC aritu…
I cant actually believe how educated people in Malaysia, were sooooooo extremely narrow minded. For all who is angry after watching this video:
In one episode of Top Gear, they feature Toyota Aygo. They mentioned, some cars were designed, and built cheaply. Some were designed to be cheap (save costs). They love the Aygo, cheap, fun, agile, nicely built. Then they pointed out Peaugot and Citroen had one exact car like the Aygo, all three were the same vehicles, absolutely same except for exterior looks, hence they ask consumers to go for the Citroen because its 500 pounds cheaper.
Can we, citizens of a nation, on generic terms, with lower intellectual levels than UK citizens, understand that? On general terms, we can't. Because on general terms, Malaysians aren't as clever, lower standards of education, lower standards of morality and outdated mindsets, can never make that kinda judgement.
Please be more receptive and open minded to comments, be more self conscious and aware of our own faults, if not, we cant improve.
Did you guys know? Proton's previous website had a forum section, which is closed always, and now they revamped their new site, and decided not to have a section to take comments. Why? because they are too afraid to see/hear for themselves, the public outcry.
This is still one of the main reasons why Malaysia is going deeper and deeper into shit. Because of our wrong foot step 20 years ago. We created alot, alot of leeches, that sucked upon country's resources, people's money, we educated, graduated degree holder's who would have failed if they're not in Malaysia. We created mega conglomerates who only know how to kiss governments ass and get crazy money from it, without knowing how to do business; and its our citizens, which are so forgivable because they "love malaysia" that gives these bunch of fat arses chance upon chance, chance upon chance to again, empty our very own pockets.
What is AP? Its full of shit! What is Puspakom? To "ensure vehicle is safety?" I tell you guys, my bro just bought a 2004 Vios, and when we went checking at Puspakom, that forker straight put a "Tak Lulus" sign, and demanded for RM500 rasuah in order to get the "Lulus" stamped. And that forker is the person in charge there. WTF is all this? Why Malaysia's rasuah is so damn crazy? Everywhere is happening. The other day some policemen stopped my mum halfway driving and insists she's talking on the phone when my mum wasn't! That fat ass wanted money! And what is the reason for all this to happen? BECAUSE OF FORGIVING PEOPLE LIKE YOU ALL ! OH WELL YOU GUYS THINK THAT THEY WILL LET YOU ALL GO? NO! THEY WANT YOUR HARD EARNED RM50 AS WELL !! PLEASE! FOR THE SAKE OF MALAYSIA, SCOLD, CONDEMN, AND PISS THESE FROM DRAINING OUR COUNTRY. I AM A CHINESE AND I LOVE THIS COUNTRY, I KNOW HOW TO LOVE THIS COUNTRY MORE THAN MANY OF YOU HERE.
[Edited by Paul: Why did you put racist comments all over this post? Do you want to get me into trouble? If you want to incite racial hatred, please post elsewhere.]
Bilalah nak dibuang column JC dari Sunday Times kita. His comments only suitable for high class and higher middle class people… not for working class and lower middle class.
Will he do the test to mercedes, volvo or any other cars??? i bet him to do that!!!!
Plain and simple, Clarkson is nothing more than an ego with legs who just happens to like driving fast cars and getting know-nothings to fawn over him. Good work if you can get it, I suppose. He's one to talk about someone doing something merely for money, as he's by far and away the top-paid "presenter" on the Beeb's payroll and he also rakes in a comfy quid for the syndication of his predictably boring-as-batshit newspaper column. But he does it for passion right?
In a pig's eye.
As a journalist he's the second most unprofessional, biased turd I have ever encountered in automotive journalism, though I've only been around the trade since 1973. While I am astonished that people capable of a degree of independent thought idolise the moron as much as they do, I suppose he's impressive in a nauseating way at being such a bloody successful biased, unprofessional turd.
I have had to sit through his attempts to be centre stage at numerous car launches, the BMW E60 intro perhaps being the most memorable. As was the norm, Clarkson was interrupting the BMW people during presentations about how boring he found everything and that he was hungry. When the tech Q and A started, he was quick to ask "Can we go back to the hotel now. I am bored". After a couple more of these non-technical queries, a couple of Australian journalists told him (as only the Aussies can) what he should do with his interruptions and where he might place them. There was a standing ovation from the entire group (BMW people as well as other journalists) when the Australians finished, as Clarkson slumped in his chair and disappeared from the launch programme shortly afterwards. So it while appears that he can dish it out, he certainly can't take it.
Anyone who thinks that Clarkson is clever or even marginally intelligent should see the short-lived (and godawful) TV chat show he did when he decided he was too big for Top Gear and thought he could take on the likes of Parkinson. It was funny, for all the wrong reasons. After a few minutes of this yawn-fest, you quickly came to the conclusion that Clarkson is about as humourous as a two month-long Nigerian bus accident if he didn't have car companies to bash or something to pontificate upon. Like many know-nothings, he cannot comprehend what an interview is, if only because it means the person you're chatting with is at least as important (if not even more so) than you are. Obviously this was not a Clarkson comfort zone so he wandered back to Top Gear with a few conditions as part of the deal. Those conditions made Jeremy THE star and the rest supporting characters. The cronies seem to have been selected to make Clarkson appear intelligent, which must have been quite a task for the casting department.
I'd say more, but the bloke is really beneath contempt.
This blog has become a massive, never-ending Royal Rumble of comments
It's all his opinions… There was an episode when he said that if he was given an oppurtunity to pick either the F40 or the F60 Enzo, his pick will be the former.. giving the reason that the Enzo "has too much computers".. Oh well… if one were to go by that.. I believe every car manufacturer should have halted their R&D completely 20 years ago
This alone says a lot of the subjectivity of his comments and opinions. He has lost the sense of objetivity as a reviewer.. So. piirahhhhlahhh to this old fart
sorry if i went too far. But its not about racists, chinese population only around 25%, cannot do much, its up to our malay friends to do it. Reality bites, i knew that, hence i say so.
Well…. I agreed to some of that… We can't put some racist on the comments… have to be rasional in making comments… But, at least… we have to be proud… as a Malaysian… We have our own brand of cars… Compared to other countries that didn't have any….. Even though the car was not great or anything…. But i still believe that someday… maybe in a distance future… our car can compete with others…. As long as our local Car developer got a better person holding the throne of the company…. I believe that someday… We can make a good car from cheap resources…. Well, it doen't matter whether you're a chinese or indians… or others… but we still Malaysian….
P/s… Bob…. I do agreed on everything that you said…. But i think that there is who is right or wrong in this world… Humans make mistakes…. :D cheers Bro!
Sorry bout that… I mean…. There is nobody in this world is right or wrong….
That guy is an idiot. One penny spent is penny worth. Those kind of cars would be cheaper if compare with Merc or BMW of course. By the way, i don't think BMW or Merc would have survived the last blowing up action.
Ha-ha… very colourful postings…
Well, just watching the video clip itself… very entertaining…
But to REALLY comment about, I think it should be wiser to watch the entire show to get the full story…
It just happens the Kelisa was used to as an example… It could have been any other car…
Anybody know what season and episode this was taken from?
perodua kelisah..perodua jazz..perodua kijang..perodua keeeeembaaaraa rox!!
i love this car.bikos this car is cheap..and good for huge family.
kelisa is good
kelisa is handsome and best.i like it very much bikos the steering is so heavy..PLUS the hon is so power.the brake is best.
kelisah is like a bumper car!!its so besh!
well.. i think he is proving a point… do you know that the Malaysian cars have failed almost all the safety test there is and has faired worst among all car brands? The koreans & indians are producing so called better cars compared to "buatan malaysia". It is our pride and joy when our country produces cars which threatens the safety of it's own people… rich or poor….. where else in the world can you find the most proton & produa owners? what can i say? at least in UK airbags are not an option.
if blowing up the car is deemed unfair? how come none of us bothered about the safety tests results?
"Jeremy Clarkson shows his frustration on companies that seem to make cars as a pure for-profit matter" Well well what can I say… Jeremy, shame on you. I know you're one big shot reviewer of cars but why must you pick on this one. Come on, lets face it, you can torture the Kelisa all you want and tell us it's a piece of non-passion material, but have you done the same thing to a brand new Lamborghini that you are so passionate of? If you haven't, there's nothing left to say, there's no comparison to be made – you're just purely bias. I know £4000+ may be nothing to you but I would say it is a value for money car in Malaysia. Moreover, it's a national pride. I don't know how you folks feel about this, but it's as honest as I can possibly get. Cars bring you from A to B. Expensive ones, cheap ones nonetheless. Think of those who even long to drive one. If cars were for passion and passion alone, they shant be on the road, they should be in glass cages in museums. Jeremy, shame on you…
what the hell is it? is it the kelisa so un-usefull for him? at least our country still making car althought it is no 'passion' or 'quality', not like UK, most of the car manufacturer in UK already bankcrupt, y they not fell shame for themselves?
Good stuff by a well know car critic. Time for perodua to buck up. Perodua should at least improve the car fittings, to make it a worth buying vehicle.
Still… Does he needs to blow up the Perodua Kelisa just for an example? Try blowing up other cars… I'm sure it's quite the same disaster….
Exaggerating. It's correct to say our local cars are pathetic but the video are actually too offensive… Don't know what to say liao.
I understand that lot of people are criticizing his actions, but what they dont see is that the price of the Kelisa sold in UK is less then 5K pound and at the exchange rate of 6.5 it will be less then RM32K.
Dont you all see the fact that our car maker are selling cars to european at a cheaper rate then to us? Probably the cost of shipping makes these cars price to become cheaper… and not more expensive.
Jeremy Clarkson shows his frustration on companies that seem to take make cars as a pure for-profit matter, but it seems that many people are proud to be made a fool by these companies….
Hei dude, do you know that Waja has a better grade for Euro crash test than Kia Carnival. Are you saying the Indian car ambassador is better than Wira?
Im a newbe in Top Gear. Can you help me which episode that show the Kelisa, Kenari and Savvy that kena hentam kow kow?
http://www.finalgear.com/downloads/topgear/
hohohohoh that's malaysian car with japenese technologies..
is not malaysian car but japan car!!
nothing car of the world are safety and strongly built.. All vehicle of the world is damn.. (not safety)
Bob.. TQ.. u've voice wht non-bumis' hv encounter all these days… Good Job!
(If he dares to type, he bear de consequences.)
Virtually everytime i c a photo of a fatal road accident onnewspaper, more often than not it's either a p1 or p2 car. Why? Let me illustrate my point in reference to a news report i heard on tv3, the news presenter were talking bout a kancil crashing to a tree, killing all onboard. When i heard it, i thought to myself(just for laugh la!), "Kancil, dun say crashing to a tree la, maybe ramming a flower pot will also kill all onboard la! Hahaha…"
Recently there are lots of ads on tv, promoting "Pengguna Bijak" campaign.
Aiyo, the very act of buying a P1 or P2 car is already a purchase that is very-very tak bijak lo… Then what should we do?
>>Dun buy P1 or P2 cars
Why?
Because Protong are selling outdated(Wira, Satria, Saga, and even the Perdana), unsafe and poorly built cars at a bloated price. As for Perodua, with the exception of the myvi, all their cars can't save its passengers in a REAL accident.
Suffer a bit of pain now by saving up and pay more for better quality Korean cars(the closest-priced alternative to P1 and P2 cars), make P1 and P2 suffer til the Government can't support them anymore, then we shall (hopefully) have fairer-priced cars by the removal of the tax protection offered to p1 and p2, and better, more competitive p1 and p2 (taht is, if they r still around).
Act now, Malaysian carbuyers! Or else we and our future generations will continue to be taken advantage of !!!
How can locals afford owning a car when half of Malaysia are still living in poverty!!
There is still significant poverty in Malaysia
In its article titled “The Mahathir Mystiqueâ€, Newsweek, (23 November 2003) terms Malaysia as an Asian success story where “the percentage of Malaysian households that fall below the poverty line has plunged from nearly 50 per cent to an estimated 6 per cent in 2000.†The figures quoted by Newsweek are lifted from Mahathir’s 2004 budget speech in Parliament on 12 September 2003. From the horses’ mouth as they say — but unfortunately some horses have learnt to bluff!
The poverty line
Generally speaking, the poverty rate can be lowered by two methods. The first is by raising the income of the poorer families to above the poverty line. The second method, and undoubtedly the easier option, is to lower the poverty line itself!
Can a family of five survive on an income of RM550 per month, given the cost of living in Malaysia today? Where would they live? And can their children go to school?
Malaysian household income distribution as quoted in the Eighth Malaysia Plan is pictured in Table 1 — with 75 per cent of Malaysian households earning below RM3,000 per month and 25 per cent of households earning below RM1,000 monthly. The same document (8MP) also specifies the poverty line for Semenanjung Malaysia as RM540 per month for a family of five individuals. Is this a realistic figure?
A living wage?
Table 1 – Household Income (RM/month)
More than RM5,000 9.8%
RM4,001 – RM5,000 5.5%
RM3,001 – RM4,000 9.6%
RM2,001 – RM3,000 17.4%
RM1,001 – RM2,000 32.7%
RM501 – RM1,001 20.0%
Less than RM500 5.0%
Source: Eighth Malaysia Plan.
Can a family of five survive on an income of RM550 per month, given the cost of living in Malaysia today? Where would they live? And can their children go to school? Yet given the government’s definition, they would not be classified as being poor.
At a meeting with 60 factory workers in Sg Siput recently, we asked them to suggest a reasonable household budget, and the outcome of that exercise is summarized in Table 2. The participants felt that the cost of buying a house and a small allocation for savings must be part of a balanced family budget. In their opinion, any family with a household budget of below RM1,750 would be facing economic hardship;
A realistic poverty line
Table 2 – Household Expenditure (per month)
House Loan 400
Marketing 300
Groceries 300
School expenses 200
Motorbike 150
Medical/Clothes 100
Festivals/Trips 100
Light/Water/Phone 100
Insurance/savings 100
Total RM1,750
In Britain and in several other countries in the European Union, the poverty line is defined as one half the average household income. In Malaysia, the average household income is RM3,200 per month. Half this figure would be RM1,600. In other words if we used the definition used in Britain, households earning less than RM1,600 per month would be considered as poor! If RM1,600 per month is taken as the realistic poverty line, then around 50 per cent of Malaysians are poor — see the Income Pyramid overleaf — and this is the level of poverty as quoted by Mahathir for 1970!
No one is denying that there has been significant growth in the national economy. Per capita income (Per capita income = total income of the nation for that year divided by the population) has soared from RM1,132 in 1970 to RM13,683 presently! (Incidently, this would work out to an average household income of RM5,534 per month.) However as the income distribution pyramid depicts, the distribution of income in Malaysia is skewed towards the rich, and there is still significant poverty in Malaysia.
Perhaps the most incredulous aspect of Malaysia’s poverty statistics is that it hasn’t been challenged by the mainstream media nor by the academicians. Big Brother’s doublespeak (term used by Orwell in his book 1984) apparently rules supreme in Malaysia today!
DeCosby… It doesn't matter if Bob gets into shit for typing whatever racist nonsense he typed… The problem is, PAUL will get into trouble! Do you really want that to happen? Try to remember the trouble that Jeff Ooi got into because some dipshit wrote some stupid ass comment on his blog…
We all know what problems each race has in this country… If you want to voice it out, do so by all means, but not at the expense of getting someone else, ESPECIALLY an innocent party, into trouble…
As some people have already said, all the Perodua supporters i.e. everyone is bashing Clarkson. Do you guys really think that the Kelisa is a good car? A 7-year-old could tell you it's a horribly slow, unsafe, boring POS by today's standards (unless he/her has already packed up and joined the Perodua force). Clarkson's point isn't the fact that the Kelisa can't withstand the damage any worse than any other car (unless it's a Toyota Hilux). He's trying to release his anger on what he thinks is a rubbish car. He'd probably smash, hang and blow up a Savvy and be celebrated like a god by all of you (let's see what he does to a Savvy next year…he he…). I'm just glad I'm not driving a Kancil/Kelisa.
God bless Clarkson. Good riddance to the Kelisa.
As some people have already said, all the Perodua supporters i.e. everyone is bashing Clarkson. Do you guys really think that the Kelisa is a good car? A 7-year-old could tell you it’s a horribly slow, unsafe, boring POS by today’s standards (unless he/her has already packed up and joined the Perodua force). Clarkson’s point isn’t the fact that the Kelisa can’t withstand the damage any worse than any other car (unless it’s a Toyota Hilux). He’s trying to release his anger on what he thinks is a rubbish car. He’d probably smash, hang and blow up a Savvy and be celebrated like a god by all of you (let’s see what he does to a Savvy next year…he he…). I’m just glad I’m not driving a Kancil/Kelisa.
God bless Clarkson. Good riddance to the Kelisa.
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If you meet an accident, I'm real glad that you able to survive with your none Kancil/Kelisa car..lol
How many road accidents did Malaysia have this, last year and year before?
How many of those accidents involved a Proton or Perodua?
Could we have done better if those cars we better protected?
Handing every Malaysian a cheap low quality car may be the vision? But you also hand them the license to kill or be killed.
Would you risk your children driving a Kancil or Kelisa or even Savvy, knowing it does not have the basic safety requirements?
Why is safety being ignored for price or profit?
Malaysian's are fantastic good consumers. We take anything and everything, without asking for more.
If we don't demand for better, then maybe the manufacturers don''t need to bother.
Our national car i.e. national pride?, need not improve.
You are the consumers. Consumers have rights. It's time you act like one. Make the choice. The right one, please.
Stop having this kind of sensitive mentality.. Jeremy clarksson bought this car with his own pocket money and planned to cras it wit a sledgehammer so be it..Isnt it the same thing as someone buying a different car say a proton and drive it while drunk,hit a tree and damage the car..U wanna call that an insult …hah ?? my fellow sensitive malaysians ?? What ever he claims is a fact..the perodua car is soul less,,is built without passion,, and is designed to generate maximum profit… Learn to accept facts !!!
if clarkson wants to destroy something, he should start with his hair. it looks cheap, not aerodynamic and ugly. i thinks it is low maintenance though. hair gel-efficient too. haha.
Why don't you think this way, if K-Cars doesn't exist, more Malaysian will opt for motorbikes instead. Now, tell me, what is the accidents rate for motorbikes compared with P1 & P2? I repeat again, not everyone is afford to buy Honda/Toyota with airbags. So, don't look down or insult other cheaper cars. It saves alot of lives.
I wonder if most of the ppl who saw the video even heard what Clarkson was saying and the point he was trying to make. This wasn't an anti MY or anti Korean video nor was a crusade against MY made cars. He was just venting his frustrations on cars which he felt was mass produced for the sake of corporations making money and not made for driving pleasure. If one has been following his articles in NST's Cars Bikes Trucks, one would realise similar comments were made about the BMW 1, the Merc A class, the Volvo V40 etc etc ………… ie the cars had no "soul" ………… this guys is a guy who makes a living writing and commenting about cars …….. so any car other than a Zonda will seem soulless.
So many comments have been made about Perodua or Proton being unsafe, but please remember Diana passed away in an accident while using a Merc not a Proton or a Perodua, while I am not a fan of Protons, I dun think these cars should be bashed for the sake of it.
Clarkson was not doing stuff to show that the Kelisa was unsafe but the Kelisa was used to show what he felt about "soulles" cars and probably why he chose the kelisa was cos of his budget
i used to have high regards for Mr.Clarkson. Not any more.
Not particularly because of the Kelisa bashing, but the fact that he thinks he is high and mighty.
Claiming the car is dull and boring, and whacking it up like that.
I'd like to see him doing the same to a car the kelisa/storia/sirion copied from – the austin mini. Let's see him bash up a Mini because it is also 'dull' and boring design.
Great to see that..hehe
this is from jeremy clarkson heaven and hell 2005 car documentary @ BBC. not juz smash… at the end, he use a crane hang the car in the air, and 1000kg weight connected to the car and at last he use 4 stick of dynamite to blow it…. wat the hell.
"Malaysian’s are fantastic good consumers. We take anything and everything, without asking for more."
And then we bash poor Proton. *sigh*…
"Why don’t you think this way, if K-Cars doesn’t exist, more Malaysian will opt for motorbikes instead."
He didn't say that cars from this segment of the market have to be banished. He's just saying that manufacturers have to make better, more exciting cars.
"I’d like to see him doing the same to a car the kelisa/storia/sirion copied from – the austin mini. Let’s see him bash up a Mini because it is also ‘dull’ and boring design."
Mini – a dull and boring design? That's a laugh.
while we're at this, he'd porbably smashed another car. :)
Why the fury? He had maybe already forgotten bout it……
budget cars such as perodua cars are meant for poor people. they are meant for neccessity. not for maximum pleasure. so of coz, they have no "soul".
cheap car will have less quality. so what the heck, do u expect from kelisa? if JC did that to the luxury car that has "no spirit or passion", then i understand and agree with his action totally..
he always write review about high end and luxury cars, so what the heck did he bother with kelisa? the only one interested with "car with passion" are only the RICHMEN. hence, budget car cannot be compared with luxury car. i don't view his action as insulting to the perodua, however, what i see is, he is indeed insulting the poor.
jonjwlee, you misunderstand me when i said about mini = dull n boring.
(i love mini's to bits :D and have a mk1 sitting at home )
my point is that , when referring to the kelisas, etc and a lot of other K- series cars, most if not all of them were inspired by the mini itself, being small and stylish.
so it's like attack the son for having bad genes and looking ugly(eg. kelisa), and forgetting where the genes came from (eg. mini). Like father like son war..
either way, i do not see any positive output from mr clarkson. if he really want's to help these manufacturers, why not provide sound advice? i'm sure proton, perodua, hyundai, etc etc would be glad to have him as a consultant :D
Perodua cars are not just meant for poor people. Different people have different priority. For instance, some may use 30K for children education instead of purchasing a Honda. While for me, I owned a 300K condominium, but still drive a Kelisa, coz I spend more time at home rather than driving around.
I agree with Jeremy Clarkson, Perodua makes cars merely for money (same as Proton too). Not for the sake of making a good car. They do need to change their attitude.
ppl who design or make da car or wat so eva muz see diz and learn from their mistake !!! listen carefully to what jeremy says …
:." it is built with no passion like a fridge or washing machine. "
:. " they are not design by one man who wanted to make a great car but by a co-operantion that just simply wanted to make money. "
take our lifes drivin tat lil' kelisa jz to make money ?! whose "GREAT" idea is tat ?! jerkz !! wat a shame !!!
Before P1 or P2, everyone was driving Datsun (Nissan), Toyota and Hondas…. so what the point of saying "K-Cars doesn’t exist, more Malaysian will opt for motorbikes instead…"
not yet read all the comments but…
wei… with a big rare unique warhammer(too much diablo) like that you knock what car also will kemek lar… that hammer i saw some kontractor using it to clear out koncrete wall… so you say lor, koncrete wall harder or kelisa?
wahh, hammered like tat the windscreen also not crack, this means that the car structure still havent change shape dispite all the torture. Impressive.
And hor, the hanging part actually pretty amazing ler, the passenger compartment still in one piece although some of the engine torn off, that means if you put your seat belt on, you will be fine.
The explosion part, i seen it long ago liao, only it is a armored vehicle not kelisa. Armored tank also gao dim like soda can, what you expect from kelisa? Kelisa same strength as armored tank?
It he trying to show that kelisa is very TOUGH? I didnt hear what he said coz no speaker at office… ahh off liao, bye, happy new year of 2006. Wish for… CHEAP N BEAUTIFUL CARZ! Yayz.
ok. i've downloaded the heaven and hell and comedy handling car episode. can u help me find the proton savvy bashing episode. cannot find lah.
http://www.finalgear.com/downloads/topgear/
i love this bloke…never failed to entertain BBC's top gear audiences :)
after reading most of the comments, i found that, most of us (malaysians) are what ppl called 'idiots'. i totally backing that Jeremy jerk than our malaysian-proudly-made-juncky-piece-of-malaysia boleh-biggest-crap. it is so true that our local made automotives (or any other products) lack of so called passion. for about 20 years proton has established n getting so much of support from JAPAN or the government, what they r able to produce is the SAVVY. OMG, savvy !?!?!?!? and the funny part of our local made cars nomally come with few packages: package 1, CRASH N DIE; package 2, OK, FEW 5 MORE CHANCES OF SURVIVAL. izzint it weird that we get to chose wherethe we wan an air-bag or not ???? y is the safety of the passenger must only become important when the passenger chose to pay more ????
i drives a kenari myself. well yea, kenari's kindda cute… dat is only after u put sum effords and money on it in modifications. the standard package of kenari comes with small slick tire that causes me to vandalized the highway's divider a few times on rainy day. n i noticed a huge gap between the door and the body when the door is shut which made loud noices and vibrations on higher speed. and so i asked a perodua sales person. he answered, "yes, this is 1 of the cons of kenari, the door cant seems to shut tight. this will happend either on the left or right of the front door." i asked myself, since they knew there was a problem with the car, Y NOT FIX IT !? well wira, no need to say lar… wira's design is more than 10 years old, n they r still producing wira models. just alittle change on the front light, and itz called "the new Wira". now which part of those are worth buying ?
proton and produa are cheap here just bcaused the high texes of other cars. so yes, it is so true that we have no choice but to "support" our so called malaysian car manufacture. any of u who gave sum comments about supporting our malaysian cars, ask urself a simple question. r u thinking of buying a waja and mod it so that it looks alittle like the mitsubishi Evo 7 ?? or change your wira to appear like the Evo 3 ? or oh, mayb buy a cetak rompak version of Daihatsu Move??
by the way guyz, he is not testing the strenght of the car or wat so eva. wat he (and most of us here) really tryin to do is to take away such low quality production. now he is the type of ppl we malaysian need to bcome. how can we let ourself be a victim of such curlture? We Malaysians must stand up for the best interest of ourself and the country. if we r simply satisfied with we he currently have – cheap cars, slow internet speed, non 3G phones, or even expencive nasi lemak. the only advancement we have is fast releases, of pirated DVDs. man, how i wish i can bang my kenari like this dude…..
haha…our country homemade,they deserved that kind of torture i believe…i'm a mechanic,i've seen alot alot of pro** and pero** totaled cars,you guys have no idea how fragile they are..Mr. england did a good job,we malaysian need to know how cruel our automobile manufacturer are,money money money..all are outdated chasis design from mitsubishi..daihatsu..corruption everywhere…encik,tolong la,bagi chance..
I have downloaded the clip and take back to watch at my own pc, this moron seem pretty hate this poor little kelisa, it must be that a kelisa bang on his mercedes butt one day and ran away.
After reading all u guys comments, I'm sad to say you all missed out on what JC is trying to say. Everyone who's been bashing the clip get this into your thick empty skull….IT IS NOT A D*MN REVIEW!!!!! He DIDN'T bang it with a sledgehammer to test if it's hard or not. He DIDN'T hang it from the crane to see if the body can take the 1 tonne weight. He DIDN'T blow it up with dynamite to see if it's built like a tank. Damnit people, you all are so shallow to interprete it so directly. No one reviews cars by doing what JC has done to the kelisa (or any of the other cars b4 it). It's a freaking show that's made to entertain. Watch more episodes of TopGear, then you'll realize how much info JC gives for a full review of a car.
P2 is not a bad car, but it's far from being good as well. So stop protecting the car cos u, ur sis, ur mom, ur dad, ur great grand aunty or the rest of your family drives the kelisa. You know for a fact that it does not compare well with other car makes. And how can you consider this a budget car just cos it's slightly cheaper than imported ones? Get real people, this car should be much, much, much cheaper, then I'll say P2 is really making it for the people. P2's profit margin is prolly higher than other car makes.
Makes me sick.
i think what jc did is right…that arowana is the stupidest car ive driven in my whole life….i also agreed wit what jc said bout carmaker who just wanna make profit by making unsafe car like kenari and arowana..jc didnt bashed a savvy or a gen2 bcos proton cars is safer than a perodua…i will never drive a perodua again.i love my new savvy…its powerfull,its safe and fun to drive…i hope our gov will not sell proton to vw bcos proton is the best for all malaysian people….
hoi steerit….u will never find a video clip where proton savvy being bashed like that stupid perodua laa..jc just laugh at savvy bcos proton said savvy is my first lotus,thats all…and jc said that proton should make the interior of the gen2 more like a toyota like plastic…i think u can find that video clip,in ur dream…huhuhuhuhu.
aiks, no one knows aaaa? i need to download the proton savvy badly.
this is quite strange especcialy for a old man like him but its good because it could kill humans and even destroy homes and stuffs all our money for only a shit car i will only say good job for it
the Kelisa's here to stay. it's the cheapest car on sale in uk. Jon LOVES Jess.
aiyo steerit….jeremy didnt say much bout savvy laaa…if u wanna download it anyway just go to topgear laaa…then ul realise that proton savvy is much better than kelisa..huhuhuhu.
shaymen, izzit the 31/10/2004 episode?
http://www.finalgear.com/downloads/topgear/
i search everything. cannot find lah.
JC is pretty funny at times, but that was just dull. Has anyone else seen the one where he took an old Toyota truck into the ocean, left it there for a day, and it still ran? Then there was the old Porche 911 one.
I wish he gets his hands on the ?Jiangliang? Landwind.
But there aren't any Malaysian or Chinese cars here in the US yet until Chery…
aiyo steerit….jeremy didnt say much bout savvy laaa…if u wanna download it anyway just go to topgear laaa…then ul realise that proton savvy is much better than kelisa..huhuhuhu.
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-21965272…
It was a line that merited reading again. "Wed like to think of it as my first Lotus," said Proton Group Chief Executive Officer Tengku Tan Sri Mahaleel Tengku Ariff. While picking on the grammar of a man whose name I couldnt even pronounce may seem a cheap shot, its indicative of a strange meeting of cultures that has seen Lotus help in the development of the Savvy city car.
Jeremy Clarkson and friends make fun of a really rubbish car..lol
An embarrassment for Malaysia
I definitely support Jeremy !!!! Sure its an embaressment to Msia BUT Protons/perodua deserved to b insulted, what could you ask for when u don have good quality, getting pampered by the govt and poor service ? U DESERVED TO GET INSULTED, in the hope that this vid clip will wake those ppl working in protons/perodua. Jeremy is actually doing us a favour and I honestly love it when he does that. They definitely deserve it. LOL ! Vanish into the depths of the sea for all protons/peroduas *grins*
What the hell are u doin with the car?? How can u compare a U$8000 car with a mercedes benz? Quality comes with how much u pay, u cant test a car using those ways, it's ridiculous!! Come on! Pls pay some respect to the car makers. If someone do the same thing to ur design, how do u feel?
Yeah p1 and p2 ABSOLUTELY deserve that.
Looking forward for Jeremy to destroy the new P1 Cham-Sei-Lo(Chancellor) in an a la James Bond car chase scene, maybe in the tunnels that we always see in the F1 Monaco GP. Cool!!! Slam it into the walls man!
I think Malaysian cars are rubbish in both design and quality. And I've been driving these cars all my life I just feel sick of all these pro-malayisian "boleh" attitudes. Look, these cars looked and performed better when they were in their japanese form. All "malaysians" did was make it all uglier, less powerful, lower quality, and up the price. So, support these companies all you want, because it is the fault of both proton and perodua that you can't afford a good japanese/continental and also their fault that you're driving around that underpowered refridgerator that you're so proud about.
ouch.. thats really painful.. especially because i have one of these machines.. omg.. well, you cant expect much from the price you pay here in malaysia.. but come on la.. kancil is way worse.. at least its fun to drive.. the savvy is just plain weird and damm expensive.. you cant open the booth from the outside and gen.2 poses the same problem.. yeah jeremy may be bad.. cant blame him.. european cars have so much more higher safety standards compared to our local car.. well, i still like the kelisa.. so boo yah =S
enjoyed morrighan"s comment especially the malaysian-proudly-made-juncky-piece-of-malaysia boleh-biggest-crap. i guess the "malaysian-boleh" has been shouted for years…. but i don't see much improvements other than making o phyco the ppl (m'sian) to think that they ARE "boleh". ask urself, are we really "boleh"?? i guess phyco-ing the ppl they were quite successful, coz saw quite a few comments shooting JC n protecting d junk which most of us own. the price around 40k, it's kinda too much for a junk yet most of us still denying it.
if we have somebody like jc here in m'sia, the more the better, n we wouldn't have to purchase junkies at a sky-high price. loving the country is d right move, but loving the country blindly is stupid fool. ppl face the facts! truth hurt but, that's the only way out to b more advanced!!
sick of it n deeply disappointed over it. not only local cars. take a look at our public transportation, ppl have MRT, we have LRT. may b our decision maker got confuse with the M n the L, M for Medium L for Large i guess. the broadband services, the provider put up a huge ads everywhere "the fastest internet access" n crap like that. this is the worst service i ever experienced in my whole D life!! even their support site isn't working until got ppl lodge report. emails sent n report made through online is like a rock sank into the pacific ocean! once a upon a time, their customer reps don't even know what is URL, domain name, smtp o pop! my god, can u imagine??!! considered lucky coz i didn't get a summon by holding my gf's hand in a park back in 2003, n lucky too that i do not have the mykad so early n expose myself to a risk when the police uncle who doesn't have a mykad reader summon o detain me for unable to provide him my driving license info. they're huge laughing stock.
got one suggestion, if life out there is too hard to cope n pay ur ass off for ur kelisa, y not try to b gov servant? their benefits r getting better every now n then. alternate saturday b come 5 days work. so called most developed country r doing that. man…. i've almost fainted, but nothing we ppl can do. so y not b gov servant, may b instead 1 kelisa, u can get 2 o 3 kelisa b4 u pay ur ass off.
do not know when will the majority of the ppl wake up take a look at those things they're proud of so very much. with such edu system, eco structure, mindset n mentality. sigh…………… quality won't live here……………
mr.mani, too many ppl dont know d facts but tibai sana sini..biasa laa espesially MSIAN!! & ppl like mr. jeremy & soros & suku sakatt
ppl do business 2 get money $$ laa mr mod!! ..its a damn fact!! dont need to delete my comment!!
A Japanese man was in a hurry to go to the KLIA, so he took a Proton taxi.
The taxi driver took his sweet time driving within the speed limit but the Jap was getting impatient.
The following is their conversation on the way to the airport.
A Toyata Camry overtook the taxi…..zoom….
Jap: Look …look …Toyota!! …very fast!!!…. made in Japan! Proton…no good…. made in Malaysia
Driver: yah….
After a few minutes a Nissan overtook the taxi….zoom.
Jap: look…. look…. Nissan!!!….. very good!! very fast! made in Japan! Proton…. no good…. made in Malaysia
Driver: yah….yah…
After a few minutes a Honda overtook the taxi…zooom.
Jap: look…. look… Honda!!…. very GOOD!!….very fast!!….made in Japan!Proton…no good…made in Malaysia
Driver: yah…yah…yah….!
Arriving at the airport. Jap going to pay the taxi driver.
Jap: How much?
Driver: RM250/-
Jap: Oh… very expensive….. you overcharge!!
Driver: No no…. look …. look …. meter!!….very good!!….very fast!…. Made in Japan!
toyota (japan laa!!)
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daihatsu
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perodua
r u sure perodua own by msian @ msian gov'??
i wonder would any car for that matter could ever survive that sort of treatment?
I will bookmark this page on my PC for me to read later on…maybe next year
gooddd..good.good…as a malaysian i dont feel offended at all..since all perodua did was cut n paste only…so he blow up a japanese piece of junk..bravo..i totally agree with JC
it is good to treat it that way, since malaysian car is lousy and cheap. good job Jeremy Clarkson !!!
I drive a Kelisa myself, and to see him trashed the car like that, I have to admit that's one hell of a great stunt. What's funnier than the video itself is the replies I saw regarding this topic. I mean, chill out bitches, I don't give a flying fsck if he's an "unprofessional boring turd" or a "capitalist who doesn't care about the middle class", it's just a funny video of a mat salleh bashing, unfortunately one of our national cars.
Or you can get all riled up and write a 10 paragraph reply trying to tell us how much of an asshole this guy is. How forking dramatic.
perodua is own by japanese laaaa…51% by daihatsu n mitsui corp…perodua 49%…u alll r stupid to think its malaysian..puji siyu sini…only proton is truly malaysian for now
Now he has gone too far. . .doesn't he realise that for every budget there is a different car? I am pretty sure them small little Fords and Metro's that they have in the UK are just as flimsy . . Point is, he was like taking the mickey out of the Kelisa . . for some guy who has a Saab Jet park in his front yard . .kind of makes you wonder his point really. I dorve around in a loaner Kelisa, and must say it was jiffy . .but here, pay a pound and expect a fiver????? Come on, Jer . . .go pick on some cars French made cars . . .you &%$*#
if i got the money..i will blow up that facelifted daihatsu piece of crap…idiotic car for stupid people….
like i said, the phyco doing the phyco-ing is quite successful. oh my… oh my….. do u really think that to have a better car will cost u alot? especially to local consumer who purchase the local car? use ur head ppl, let say, if "somebody" increase the tax for those good cars by 300% and increase the local car by 200% n push the k car's price to 70k which still b one of the cheapest in local market, would anybody buy? yes dude!! n ppl will treat 79k as a middle class car.
the cars are owned by whom, does it matter in d end? no, ppl will only look at the brand name. who owns it? talking about middle class car, make some researches will u? check out how much does a toyota o ford cost in their country.
jc n d k car maker will laugh over what we're commenting here, jc might think that poor ppl who still protecting something aint worth for while the k car maker might think, luckily the "somebody's" phyco-process is a successful one, we still earn our big bucks n get ourselves lexus, bmw, lambo n etc.
jc spent his efforts, time, films, at least, to give it a chance to test it. the effect could have wake most of us up on the fact. if one day, ppl don't even wanna spend a second to even look at ur product. would u have any chance to prove it to them? guess that's y we r always behind d others……..
maybe we r behind b'cos we only essemble cars and not designing or improving it with our own malaysian flavour…JC just destroy a jap car..face it..what impact or contribution malaysian have on that car?cut n paste new headlamps?
I don't/couldn't see what his point on blowing the car with tnt. An act of 7err0r15m? Any car would blowed like that, prove me wrong. (even tank, if the tnt blowed under or inside the tank)
So he hates companies who is making money and built the low-q car (and which companies doesn't get profit by making hi-q cars?) . To my point is P2 are doing good job, offerring us decent car with decent prices, which is affordable (the trend is improving much better, and I do hope our car maker will make a better and quality car for many years ahead).
To me, he seem like to crush out, the like of company like P2.
i had read a few of ur comments . i had watch jeremy's almost every episod.this one is called Heaven and Hell , which features best seven cars in year 2005 and worst seven cars in 2005 . i obviously had to defend him . what u all watch is just a small part of the video . which show how he tortured the car . u all cannot judge him by this short video clip . go and buy the movie heaven and hell . then u will understand y he did this . it totally make sence..remember..dont judge a book by it's cover . about the efford thing , i would like to say , other automotive makers had put alot of efford to count the aerodynamic , minus torque steer , understeer or oversteer . but to be honest , malaysian car makers dont really make an efford to count all those . so please dont insult jeremy clarkson . he is a great man . remember..DONT JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER .. WATCH THE WHOLE MOVIE then u will KNOW .
hahhahahahhahah…another episode of fear factor…ahhahahaha british made of course….
The point of this clip, is not about torturing kelisa, is about the message "cars made for profit" issue, which I think is quite true. For years (decades, to be exact) proton n perodua are well-known for their no-qc attitute towards their products, and I believe many of us fell victim to such an attitute as a consumer that buys their products, right?
And the most ridiculous thing I would really wanna address, is: HOW COME NATIONAL CARS SOLD AT HIGHER PRICE LOCALLY, WHILE CHEAPER OVERSEAS?
Hello, Rafidah?
stupid brainless guy… kelisa is a good car!!!
amao..rafidah wont answer punye..got back up la…see last time when reporters ask her abt AP issue…
ask paklah la…waaahhhhhhh…so arrogant and confident that old man wont fire her.
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gt said,
January 8, 2006 @ 1:05 am
stupid brainless guy… kelisa is a good car!!!
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smart english guy…kelisa is a stupid car
hey guys, wake up man! wats all this fuss about jeremy clarkson. common the fact is we do make bloody inferior cars! can you imagine we still have carbuerators running on the road! ( proton hatch). look at all the small cars in the uk.. they all are fitted with airbags! at least! and now look at own savvy…. wat no airbags?
hey amao, i totally agree with you
and halo halo, wats all this bout kicking jeremy's butt? at least jeremy has a sense of humour and blunt enough to let those of you who are blinded to face the truth! common it'll only do us good to listen to other people's point of view! common dun act like auntie auntie lah….