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Paul Tan
After dabbling for years in the IT industry, Paul Tan initially began this site as a general blog covering various topics of personal interest. With an increasing number of readers paying rapt attention to the motoring stories, one thing led to another and the rest, as they say, is history.
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Proton Grand Livina.
Boring Car again from proton…………….
Did u watch the video? That silver car is not proton’s new model. Don’t jump to conclusion without watching.
haha, perhaps he’s just pointing out the irony that the video’s thumbnail is showing a grand livina
You sir are not the 38 idiots that couldn’t comprehend a joke. Kudos!
ya, with ur lame joke ~
Yea,stupid joke…
Agree..lawak bodoh n lawak syok sendiri. Name try to cover himself with stupid reason. Malu malu
memang lah proton car mah……new savvy .?????
PROTON new projet 2012………this car fight with audi a1…….
Whoaaa… bringing meaning to the word idiocy to a whole new level there fella..!
If the new potong car on that day to launch the brand new car with the black cover sticker or paper whatever…the car will be more interesting and better looking…
thanks again for the updates guys.. no where on the web can we see such stories and pics.
PROTON dna still there….
which is not a very good thing…
Stupid! Of coz la Proton DNA is there… it’s a Proton Car duh…. How lame you can get?
OoooOOOooooOOOoooo
PpppPPPppppPPPpppp
the dashboard shape looks a bit like the old mercedes e-class W124 dashboard
some people who have seen it said the interior looks like BMW 3 series…
The interior kinda reminds me the older generation of Mitsubishi Lancer dashboard. But the real thing could be different, need to see the real car to find out.
I knew someone will bash this car/proton/articel.. before you do that.. please
get the hell out from HERE!!!!
the car looked way more sexier through the magnifying glass at the back. looks like a dodge viper!
looks like they may be launching it soon seeing as how a lot of the camo has dropped off the vehicle…
caught using emergency lane on camera.
should kena saman
jesus christ
this stalking business somehow becomes serious
and i cant see a thing on the interior
so small..
can’t judge by seeing like that. the size bigger than persona, forte size maybe. but sexy than forte n inspira,haha. got gen2 roofline dna, so mean its look sexy and sporty?? bodyline remind me of previous mazda 3.
the video could be squeezed.. from 16:9 become 3:4… other vehicles looks weird too.
Why oh why proton are you using those door handle design. I would prefer the newer designs most car manufacturer use, not the slot hand from lower door handles. :(
alamak…! u could be right… can’t be sure for all those maskings… the old ‘underhand’ handle will leave nail markings on the door panel… the ‘grab thru’ handle is universally applicable for all type of people including children & the handicapped…
Previous snapshots do show the ‘grab thru’ handles… so I do hope its just the masking…
Look closely. Because it is white handle and surrounded by black tapes, it is quite distorted. I believe it is still the same grab-thru handle type that we saw on previous spy shot.
Why using that door handle design? :(
anti vios???hahahaha
The car that can only sale in malaysia…
english that can only be understood in Malaysia
thumb up google translator :P
yeah i agree with you…haha
are u referring to perodua cars??
prrrtfhhh
p1 still produce low quality car….. just like kereta sampah…
Dont know is it just me or what,it looks a lil like savvy?
agree, it does look like a savvy
undeniably proton DNA. better than copy alfa or bmw or lotus.
but owh my.. savvy. sighh…
Still a lot Savvy spare parts around.. Hahaha
Yea, yea.. i know i m just trolling.. so not true so dun feed the troll ya..
The dashboard look flat….inspired from Vw ?
Macam dashboard masterpiece je…
Very BMW like smooth flowing from passenger to driver side
savvy with rear ?
called saga blm
it could be due to image distortion, but WHY IS THE STEERING WHEEL LOOKS SO SKINNY??!!!
however I do like the looks of the dash.. from the pictures viewpoints, it looks relevant and modern.
All the best Proton!
can’t really see the interior..
CFE engine inside..yeha
New model? Looks more like gen-2 to me.
haiyyaa feel cheated already…
where got anything about interior mehh..?
this is the best car update in malaysia… there’s no need to go to newstand or bookstore to spend money on a magazine… just sit at home and click… all free… with the best and latest automobile update sumore… please maintain this site by not arguing or bashing over things or personal opinions…
I guess Paul is trying to make some story out from Proton. There’s nothing on the interior which just a few blur shots from outside.
The wheels look small.Dont like them.
It’s called….Proton Kuda Belang…
UK spec…Proton Zebra.
This morning a friend asked my o opinion about Myvi lagi best. I said, better wait for this P3-21A. After watch this video l don’t think this P3-21A will have a significant impact on best selling Myvi. Interior design so yesterday and design-wise not up to Hyundai Elantra MD or new Forte.
For the relatively small and unknown brand like Proton, good design inside out is important. We don’t have global engine to rely on, merely less-impressive Lotus-tune decal to woo new buyers. Sporty detached door mirrors, clever recline-able rear seating design like City on top of decent design (unlike Fiesta/Mazda2 sedan) is crucial to gamble in less fancy name of Proton.
I love or pity Proton BUT the design of our car (especially the interior, wheel steering) never done in the best effort. The interior designer really not up to international market.
baru tgk seimbas lalu dh komen pjg lebar mcm dh masuk dlm kereta tu. hebat tul
QFT
it’s still a prototype maa, it’s not a final design.
dont worry my friend, protong will try the best to put the best looking/effort interior to customer by the lowest cost efficient. then they will sell the car with overpriced and all the buyer will happy when seeing this car will be sold at Arab Saudi with cheaper price than you bought…pity of malaysian…
lol pity you for being a ‘katak bwh tempurung’.
Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries are some fucking rich country, and has ridiculously low car tax. you even get a rebate for buying a new car. even Ferrari, Lambos, Bugattis, Mercs etc. over there are cheaper than in their country of origin.
it’s no surprise that majority of sports car owners and sports car destroyers are Arabs.
most accidents involving sports cars are done by Arabs.
the world’s first overheated ‘Range Rover Evoque that burst into big-ass flame’ owner is also an Arab.
Exotics cars scattered on the streets of London are also owned by Arabs. and all of ’em are Saudi/Dubai registered.
therefore, your argument is invalid. you want cheap cars? go to Saudi. or UAE. or take an arrow into the knee.
saudi cheaper coz tax low.
cannot control by proton, the one who control tax is goverment.
pls look closely and dont simply to judge proton only
isu sudah basi
local car maker got tax? you’re wrong man
however, i’m stunned to see paultan.org with exora cfe ad..
@mim, fyi i really wanted proton to improves – thats why i commented here..
prove me
haiya.. if you complaint after launching ok laaa… this is trial car maa
Too much about proton here and there ….. No other better brand than proton ar…. Tengok proton pun Sudah muak… Hari hari proton …… Thing big a bit la ….. Asyik proton aje…. Proton so good than tak payah kena tak over la….. Langsung tak ambitious … Hari hari potong …. Sekian terima Kasih ……..
dah namanya malaysia…mmg la byk crite pasal proton. kalau jerman…confirm xde crite proton.
Like it or not, any posting about Proton will generate the most feedbacks or comments sometimes approching 500. Post anything else, even about the fastest, the most beautiful or the most expensive car in the world will likely to generate less then 50 comments.
Paultan need this number to attract iklan and in the process keep this blog alive for our benefit. So keep the comment flow but please…no name calling, just exchange of idea and information. Even if you love any brand and will do anything to defend it, love your fellow human being more.
you are absolutely correct
Ahmed, I am not sure if you are married or not or with kids or not… would you say to your wife or kids that u sudah muak seeing them for the rest of your life.. u suck dude..
Bro, kalau ko tak suka dengar, ko pindah la kat tempat lain
banyak lagi negara yang kurang populasi
macam iceland ke
gurun gobi kat mongolia ke…
kalau otak dah negatif tu…
suma menda pun nampak buruk…
duduk maldive laa tak dengar langsung cite proton
i want to know bout proton, u hav prob with that? bcoz im simply a Malaysian..
the video aspect ratio is very bad…makes all the cars look short and fat.
Even the door handle uglier than BLM! Why proton can’t design mirror like new Prius? If you compare the Prius’ and Myvi lagi best’s mirror also similar yet sporty.
hatchback again?? proton has forgotten hatchbacks dont sell in malaysia. except for iswara and wira aeroback.
gen2, tiara, savvy all failure.
but i truly adore proton test drivers.. using 1 hand to steer, while the other hand holding walkie talkie.. changing lane without signal and squeezing other motorist like no other busniess.
some ignorant there. and arrogance too. anyway, cheap publicity for proton.
tak abis abis cheap publicity…
oi…
orang tu nak test kereta
kena la bawak kat jalan raya sebenar
diorang punya kilang kat sini
memang la diorang test kat sini
kalao ko duduk kat jerman…
mesti ko selalu nampak kereta bmw tape itam
porsche tape itam
audi tape itam buat testing kat jalan raya
tak kan la tu namanya publicity…
tak paham-paham ke?
Also using the emergency lane to cut queue….
what do you classified myvi?
the dashboard looks plain. o.o
Kalaulah tak wujud Proton dan Perodua dari dulu lagi….dah tentu harga kereta-kereta import tak `OVERPRICED’ seperti sekarang……
Dulu, sebelum kewujudan P1 dan P2, kita boleh lihat banyak kereta-kereta seperti VW, Opel, Ford, Audi, Merc dan jugak kereta-kereta Jepun di jalan raya…bersepah…
Sekarang…Nak jugak rasa pakai kereta import….tapi apakan daya…terlebih mahal…
Harga Proton sendiri pun dah terlebih mahal….Nasib malang rakyat Malaysia….
Perlukah Government ditukar? Mungkin tukar government ada perubahan?
Mana satu yang beri rakyat m’sia byk pekerjaan, kereta import atau local ?
Nak jawapan ?
Jawapan: Kereta Jepun dan Jerman yang pasang di Malaysia yang akan bawa banyak pekerjaan dan juga latihan professional kepada anak-anak Malaysia sebagai persediaan untuk membina kereta sendiri pada masa akan datang. Tetapi sedihnya, semua ini tidak berlaku kepada Malaysia kerena Kereta Buatan Nasional yang tak dapat maju ke hadapan dengan jejak kaki sedunia. Sekarang Thailand dan Indonesia sudah ambik itu baik punya business, terima kasih kepada proton dengan berpuluh-puluh tahun tongkat. Yang saya tahu hanya hasilnya AP king and queen dan juga kesukaran rakyat untuk menbeli kereta buatan Jepun dan Jerman dengan harga yang berkali-ganda.
Belajar pasang kereta secara professional atau belajar mencipta kereta secara professional???sanggupkah mereka memindahkan pusat Rnd mereka ke Malaysia,setakat Daihatshu xpayah lah..klau VW okay tapi mahu ke VW???
haha, takat pasang kereta je lah. hehe. nak buat benda-benda pasang tu reti tak? hehe.
Kalau kereta import murah, nak ke diorang pasang kete kat Mesia?
Baik import je dari Indon/Thai dpt untung lebih, sebab cost nak buat kete kat Mesia ni bukan murah. Dari segi kos labour kita memang takleh lawan Thai & Indon sbb gaji orang kita dah naik berbanding ngan zaman dulu. Walaupun kerajaan bleh bagi insentif bagai nak rak, tapi bila dah x kos effektif diorg blah cam tu je nak buat mcm mana? Dah terjadi dah kat sektor elektronik bila byk kompeni pindah dari Mesia kejar labour murah kat China.
So in the end, skill x dpt & duit kita kuar mcm tu je.
correct me if im wrong but are they not currently various assembly lines set up for mercs,volvos,toyotas,nissans,hondas,hyundais,kias,peugeots,bmws in malaysia ?
wey, apa ko fikir, kalau tukar goverment,goverment boleh tutup proton meh.? an industry, a company that has been developing itself for more than 20 years?
aduyai, nak tahu pasal tax, cari balik post exora bold n tgk sendiri, jgn ckp ikut suka mulut jek, berilmulah ckit.
Thai n indo jadi pilihan bkn sebab prtn ada kat malaysia, kerana cost buruh kat sana murah. Tgk kat malaysia sendiri, manalah ada byk anak tempatan sanggup trime gaji mcm abangla n indon mahupun thais,kat restoran ke@kat sektor pembinaan. Termasuk jugak faktor2 lain.
Pembantu rumahpun payah nak jumpe org tempatan coz gaji murah. Yg kat restoran@kdai mkan tuh,aku bkn ckp psl tkg masak,tp yg amik order n basuh pinggan mangkuk. Aku tau pasal aku kenal tokey kedai makan, klu amik bdk melayu, 2-3 bln berhenti, komplen gaji kecik. Dia lebih rela amik org thai, walupun mahal coz permulaan, kerja rajin, psl gaji xpenah komplen.
Bukalah mata ckit. Klu x,dah lama t n h bukak kilang kat sini.
China jugak pilihan utama diaorang coz kos bahan, kos buruh n kos overhead murah.
Byk parts t n h dtg jugak dr china. Bukan itu sahaja, mcm2 brg skrg nih dtg dari china hatta yamaha sekalipun. Xsuka btl aku klu org malaysia nih ckp mcm org xberilmu. Membaca amalan kita.
Belajar pasang kereta SRP pun boleh, x boleh baca and cakap sepatah bahasa inggeris pun boleh pasang kereta.
Designing cars, doing erganomic design, wind testing, crash testing, stress testing, yg tu you need degree, masters, phd dalam designing, aeronautics, erganomics, materials etc. Sebab tu design studio banyak in the US dan UK tapi pasang kereta lagi banyak di Mexico. So nak gaji murah pasang kereta, nak gaji besar belajar design kereta. Capishh?
harga kete jepun n german, xpernah berkali2 gandapun berbanding kete tempatan pun sekarang. Cbu hanya 30% ajek. Yg cbu dr asean 0% duti import. Ada yg sama pun tax dia klu yg dtg dr thai n indo.
Klu penah baca dasar nap, byk kelebihan t n h nak bukak kilang n produce produk dia, siap bg incentive 50% waive dr local tax.
Tp apsal xnak, bukan masalah cukai coz sapa yg tanggung cukai? End user yg bayo, tp kerana faktor kos. Korang ingat korang beli kete, toyota n honda yg bayo duti import,excise n sales. Kita yg bayo, diaorg xkesahpun mahal@murah tax tuh.
mr. mat, good info. tq bro.
Bila berfikir panjang….biarlah kereta mahal asalkan…pendidikan utk semua, kesihatan murah (tgk berapa ramai pakcik makcik atuk nenek yang ada darah tinggi dan diabetes ambil ubat di klinik…ingat murah ka kos dia?), tax pendapatan berpada-pada, makanan tak terlalu mahal, bla bla bla…….kereta bukan beli setiap hari dan tak mati pon kalau takda kereta (rasanya lagi ramai mati sebab kereta). Boleh tukar kerajaan, tetapi perlu buktikan ianya mampu untuk lebih baik (akhlak, amanah) kerana yang lain lain akan menyusul.
Bila merantau…dok aussie 2 tahun…dan skrg di UK utk 3-4 tahun….rasa bangga bila melihat kereta proton sebaris kereta2 ternama di jalan raya dan pernah bertanya seorang pemuda yang memakai satria, komennya sgt bagus….dan masih kelihatan proton iswara masih sempurna sifat dan pernah melalui keseluruhan utama jalan di england dan france.
Walau mmg mampu utk memiliki kereta import yang modern…saya masih lagi memberi harapan agar kereta waja tahun 2001 yg saya miliki terus berkhidmat utk saya. sepanjang tempoh pemilikan….tak pernah lagi buat hal kecuali kerosakan power window (sekali ja pon sebab anak suka main). setiap bulan hampir 5000 km perjalanan…kuantan, gombak, kelantan, perak…..
Kucau?
sila kerja kuat lagi…tambah pendapatan!
1980s (est)
RM0.50 = SGD 1.00
RM1.00 = USD ??
RM3.00 = GBP 1.00
2000s (est)
RM 2.40 = SGD 1.00
RM 3.00 = USD 1.00
RM 5.00 = GBP 1.00
how do you thing you still can afford imported car when u still low income nation?
hmm, cakap kedai kopi, takde proton keta jadi murah…
grow up bro!
it’s not as simple as that.
and it’s not only Malaysian govt protecting local brand.
Even the US govt and French govt,are protecting their local carmakers,
Just think about the cash outflowing from Malaysia to foreigners.
Just think about thousands of people who are now depending on P1 and P2, direct and indirect.
Do you think the Japs and Europeans will help to develop Malaysians engineers?
Do you think those will give you the best products? They’ll simply care about profits.
And i doubt the high price of imported car are solely P1’s fault.
P1 cars are imposed to tax as well.
Ask Naza, UMW, Sime Darby and other dealers on their margin…
Sapalah yg bgtahu ko semua fakta ni.
Mungkin dia x habis cerita
Dia x cerita lagi sana kereta murah tp boleh pakai 5 tahun je. Then jual as besi buruk.
Kat sini lepas 5 tahun bole jual lg sekitar separuh dari harga kereta tu.
Insuran sana berapa pulak hage, dia x ckp pun ada kereta insuran 1/4 of hage kereta tu…
Fikir2 lah sendiri, banyak membaca. Jgn sebarkan info2 yg salah…
ci abang, dulu tu bila?30 thn lps? mmg la kete tu je bersepah sbb no choice dah. lagi pon dulu duit kita besar, sekarang ni ciput jek
Karl.. Beauty is subjective.. N global taste does not same as kampung malaysian taste.. Take a look myvi.. Only hot selling in malaysia but when come to their export market like mauritius nobody wanna buy peridua myvi
Prrrffthhhh
I couldn’t agree more with you, my buddy Peyno. I only afraid. If this P3-21A fail because of ugly design etc, we taxpayer will be forced to bail Proton (since 1985 we did this NS). Proton can’t afford to behave lackadaisical. They must target more than Kia/Hyundai’s.
If kampung Malaysia reject P3-21A how on earth global village will accept it? Myvi is a real jaguh kampung BUT they can achieve ROI sooner than they’re expected.
That’s why l really sick, when VW was denied to control Proton, then. Having said that, hopefully the P3 interior look good.
do you agree if proton will be facing the same problem like suzuki if VW controling the majority of share? How about to build the modal insan programme for the anak malaysia?
Why you take Suzuki when Skoda of Czech, SEAT of Spain, Porsche, Rolls-Royce then, Bentley of Britain, Lamborghini of Italy and EB Bugatti of France, Audi Auto Union NSU DKW Horch Wanderer then (now just Audi) or Scania AB and MAN have no problem with VW AG?
FAW and SAIC in China too have good relationship with VGC. Use Google to understand this industry better.
Should compare Suzuki-VW relationship because it is another Asian based carmaker …. Generally, German/European relationships are more successful than German/Asian relationships
Myvi has lower development cost because P2 incur minimal portion of the total development cost, largely absorbed by Daihatsu. Overall, most global auto OEM achieve about 2%-3% EBIT annually which is somewhere what P1 is currently achieving
lol very true. Westerners have very diff taste than us. most Malaysians love those cheap cars with those unnecessary stupid “aggresive-sporty race bodykits” but poor in performance, example: Myvi SE, Vios TRD, and those ‘editions/SE/LE’ kind of shit. Westerners love cars that looked tidy.
last week i show my Gen 2 CPS and another friend’s Neo R3 to my american and brit friends who drove mustangs, camaros, volks and some other top tier conti cars.
they said the car nicely designed, very modern, tidy and BETTER than average ‘Chevy/Toyota/Honda shit’ (they said that, lol). also “Swift Sport ain’t got shit on the R3, fun-wise” lol.
they also test drove an Inspira 2.0, they said ‘better than 2008-10 Lancer, a bit worse than 2011 Lancer’, but ‘handles better than both’. they don’t like the ugly rims and the nerfed audio system.
and guess what? for us Malaysians, the Savvy is a FREAKING UGLY car. surprisingly, for the Brits, its a very cute and nimble city car. and for them, ‘Tuah’ design is much better than those overrated Forte.
the brit guy said that the things that stopped the Brits from buying Protons are:
– high engine emission (their tax are based on CO2 emissions). nice performance figs though
– very well-designed interior, but “LOL TOYOTA QUALITY”
– poor aftersales/customer support. “probably managed by some bollocks that don’t know shit about Protons” lol.
– very good, tough chassis/body, but “2 airbags+ABS+EBD” only? that’s it? LOLWUT?”
i’m not insulting Proton, but they must fix these if they wanna go global. i hope, they’ll be fixed by the time P3-21A launches.
It’s a Proton!
the design is as always not that ‘wow’
to my dearest proton,
Please improve the design, don’t be too scared to produce a car like sonata, optima, honda city, crz, etc.
I think maybe they want to play like toyota, all design just like ‘playsafe’
but one thing you have to remember, you dont have a name like toyota, and your quality is not comparable to toyota
Plus! I beg you proton to change 100% your interior, it sucks a lot, hideous, look so cheap, i just cannot see the steering of persona etc, so cheap with plastics and very ‘china’ look…. even ‘china’ cars nowadays does not look like that… the dashboard also looks very cheap, small button for radio etc….
I know we all love proton cars, we always want to see the best from proton, but don’t be stupid of not criticising what proton did…. otherwise we will see proton going nowhere!
i am not a basher, i am a real patriot who want to see a glittering glamour of proton cars!
Agree with you. These days, all are revolutionized, including design. You see many use design to attrack customers, even when their quality is good and the engine is great. Kia is an example, with Schreyer. I’m not saying we should ignore the local guys but there’s no wrong in choosing this option. Proton is sooo close and yet so far in hitting the right spot. C’mon. The time now and the car is PROTON!
There is no wow factor to proton design. Everything look plain and dull. The interior will not impress me if they do not have something like forte.
proton, make us proud.. u’ve done a good job on exora bold, make sure this is better :)
No big deal. It’s just Proton. Nothing to goo goo ga ga about. I don’t understand all these hype and excitement about the new Proton. For me, Proton is a no no coz I am a diehard owner of 2 good quality, reliable and fuel efficient Honda cars. Good luck to those who are considering to buy this new Proton.
There are thousands of proton owners out there who are very much interested in this posting…and I’m most puzzled that someone who is obviously not at all intetested in this post takes the time to watch this video. Come on man…nobody us forcing you to watch this video…just go to honda malaysia website where you can drool on the crz or whatevwr honda you like….
i like..=D
i think they wanted to know how bad is bad on this model ;p
u dont have the right to block them see this post…they paid the bill and not you…
Why did you bother to comment at all?
Got 2 Honda cars too, one a recond-got stolen, another locally assembled-got rid of it. Now both my cars are non Honda, both fuel efficient and I’m still moving about freely. Sometimes one need to get out of a certain mindset. Enjoy!
your honda city or civic will be smoked by this turbocharged sedan
so when will this car come out?
Buy proton = patriotic ? LMFAO!!
That’s why Proton owners are sexy and they know it trololololol
u guys think japanese car so good meh? i drove honda and toyota… not much diff with p1 & p2 interms of parts quality.. trust me
what most malaysian want?
1. pick for overtaking & stop n go
2. fuel efficient
3. cheap
good luck proton
which toyota, honda u referred to??
Asean made TOYOTA avanza?? UNSER, VIOS, or HONDA city??
prrrtfhhh
bro.. i owned city 09 b4 upgrading to civic 2.0. disc brake bengkok. water leaking inside. dash krok2 sound. reverse sensor kong… u name it la list of problem. some problem also not solved until warranty expired. refer to specific honda forum. some member regret buying also!
My wife own vios… also same issue.
conclusion.. no car perfect. dont la kondem until want to die. they are improving and i will buy proton again if the trend continue
LOL… Look Like A New Proton Sport Car in the magnifier glass… 0:54 hikhikhik ^^Y
Bashing is caring. The more we bash shows the more we care on Proton.
i-bash = i-care :lol:
Proton looks better now with the new model.
The test driver is reckless driving! Hope proton take note!
dont worry the management doesnt care as long the testing goes well
hurm.. i do not think thats the real interior looks.. it looks like covered by something.. i think they will maintain the gen 2 or neo meter “boobs” look or maybe put it up a notch..
it looks like 3 series dashboard. but the shot still not enuf to conclude the overall interior design and quality.. hopefully the final product is something malaysian can be proud of
look like a hatchback instead of sedan. will they come with sedan later on just like persona after gen2?
unlikely to follow ‘gen2 then persona’ trend.. heard that they will follow successfully-proven Wira trend.. introduce sedan 1st then comes hatchback..
Regardless of the car outcome is awesome or dull, one thing for sure, Paultan has been created an enormous hype to the public with numerous post on this exaggerate code name Proton P3-21A
if somebody with a good photoshop experience can edit those pix and eliminate those black tape, i think we can get better look at the exterior design. teophilus, where are u?
Ok, For those who buy Proton cars starting from 2012 onwards , You’ll get more subsidised fuel than others. We hope “You” can show some patriotic-ness to Proton.
” 1Malaysia, 1Proton, 1Design”
Thank you.
Proton,please look at how the Koreans design their car. thanks
People left and right are telling proton to look at the koreans. Back in 2010 they announced a new design language and came out with 5 concept cars for KLIMS 10… one of them is Lekir which looked like Renault Scenic RX4. A disappointment. Beauty is subjective but people usually commonly agree on which one is cantik or not. Proton should take bashers more seriously and not simply dismiss them as trolls. Proton supporters are too kind. Proton is not young anymore. We can’t afford to let them syiok sendiri and bodoh sombong. So lets buy proton and support them when their products are good but when they screw up ..don’t held back and …maki kaw2. ok.
look at koreans? gen2, savvy and saga blm were all basically designed by korean companies,like LG.
proton already did that.
Faizul says: “it looks like 3 series dashboard.”
So this “ayam hitam”, now turn into “ayam hitam-putih”, it looks 3 series dashboard, korek, korek, korek ……….. so suggest to DSZ to “plagiarize” former CEO, TM by proclaimed “3 series dashboard of Asia” but at the price of jaguh kampung ……….
you and syoh could be a perfect couple. go meet each other and talk about yesteryears like there’s no tomorrow. that’s what you both do best… keep living in the past.
em,off topic, mr expat, local contents for asean n malaysia as long as made in or manufactured in designated countries.
What with ayam ayam thing? Can u differentiate between ayam n car? :-). Dont be mad, just teasing.
wanna see the interior so badly la…
have test driven the Bold… i think the plastics and overall design for the doorcards doorpanels, dashboards, steering wheel, center console are quite good and acceptable…
better than inspira, much much better than Persona. the steering wheel for Persona seriously not a good looking at all… took me months to “terima hakikat” lah… =P
and the inside door panel for Persona seem to be quite “melendut” when closing the door… why the hell is that can be happen..?
u see… one time, i realized that my car shampoo (Tupp’s brand to be exact; for the bottle dimension recognition) did not collapse at all… it just shift its position… i wrapped the bootle together with a pair of microfiber clothes with a plastic bag…. and nothing to hold the bottle from collapsing or shifting from its original position in the boot…. no other thing in the boot though… just the wrapped bottle
do u guys get the idea..? i mean, 140 – 150 km/h on Karak curves without having to use more than one lane… strictly on the outer-most lane… which to date, no modified Civic, Caldina GT, Golf GTi, Swifts, inspira, lancer, scirocco, audi r8, just to name a few (cewwahhh… =P) can keep up to stay in my stock factory Persona rearview mirror… even they madly zig-zagging and utilise the whole width of the road… which all the time they are…
and the bottle does not collapse… just shifting positions… the last time i check, the bottle contain no less than half of its maximum capacity…
i am not making things up… and i want to see the p321a interior so bad
I think you have a lot to improve in term of structuring your points in a writing :D… Peace!!
ummm… i’m trying to point out that Proton do produce a fairly great car in term of handling, at least for my liking…
but i think they need to pay a little more attention about their interior detailing… i do like the interior for Bold which i think better than inspira and much much better than Persona…
lol
I drive Inspira and travel back and forth KL-Kuantan every weekend. To be honest, 140-150kmh at Karak curves is a breeze and easily achieve. Done that week in week out. So to say no car can keep up is totally crap.
so we can drive like that in pair la… hahaaha
i really mean no car can keep up la mate… seriously…
okay… those cars should probably perform better… but zigzagging and using whole width of the road itself placed the driver into uncertainties… the point you release gas paddle, downshifting, shifting weight, and accelerate…
because the traffics itself are uncertain…. Karak is no racetracks where u have to use the whole width of the tarmac to achive the highest speed…
the whole point is that newer gen of proton cars have better feeling when cornering
okay okay…. i shouldn’t say that no other car can keep up just like that in the first place… that’s too much and insulting… hahahaa
come on… give me some handicap advantage… you guys drive more superior car than mine… of course straight lane and mild curves are excluded… =P
Why you take Suzuki when Skoda of Czech, SEAT of Spain, Porsche, Rolls-Royce then, Bentley of Britain, Lamborghini of Italy and EB Bugatti of France, Audi Auto Union NSU DKW Horch Wanderer then (now just Audi) or Scania AB and MAN have no problem with VW AG?
FAW and SAIC in China too have good relationship with VGC. Use Google to understand this industry better.
If you’re using Panasonic, Samsung or SONY you should stop using them and use MEC, Khind, Pensonic or Mistral instead.
yeah,.. if u r driving REAL JDM TOYOTA or Daihatsu, you should stop using them and use Perodua instead
prrrfhhhh
my first car was proton saga 1.5, then satria. when mahathir says look east,, i bought toyota seg. i drove quite a number of car’s brand and proton was an average. then when i changed to mat salleh brand…the 3 star…..proton and japs is away from my brain…
merc buruk?
Rather than wasting money on Lotus, better hire Chris Bangle for Proton design.
Bayangkan kereta Proton design best macam BMW…baru boleh cakap Tuah is the new Asian 3-Series…
If this car is meant for Savvy replacement, make sure it is as tough as the old one. Thats the only selling point I can remember. http://paultan.org/2007/05/24/proton-savvy-accident-in-singapore/
These are the features/statistics to beat Mini Coopers 2011:
Anti-lock control (ABS), electronic force distribution (EBD), Cornering Brake Control (CBC ) and Dynamic Stability Control (DSC), including assistance hill start time of all standards
Petrol turbo, 1598 cm3, 128 kW/175 hp at 5500 rpm Torque: 240 Nm at 1.600 to 5.000 rpm (260 Nm overboost)
0-100 km / h: 7.6 s
Maximum speed: 224 kmh
Fuel consumption: 6.3 l/100 km,
CO2 emissions: 150 g / km,
If turbo diesel for India market,
Turbo diesel engine, 1560 cm3, 80 kW/110 hp 4000 rpm Torque: 240 Nm at 1.750 to 2.000 rpm (260 Nm overboost)
0-100 km / h: 10.4 seconds
Maximum speed: 193 km / h
Fuel consumption: 4.1 l/100 km,
CO2 emissions: 109 g / km,
Pls don’t waste resources building car to achieve nothing!
“If this car is meant for Savvy replacement…”
for sure not
another piece of shit by proton aka mamakthir ailing company
con the rakyat by producing useless cars but the local bumiputera drive foreign cars.this wa the mamakthir dream.make the malays rich by forcing the non-malay to buy local proton shit so that the malays can drive posh cars.
this type of basher already showed who himself is
having no idea to bash about the car then gave crappy comment about the company
in this country. no one force u to buy nor sell. think b4 give this kind of comment.
Looks more like aeroback version of Inspira..
Just wait and see the real thing..
Proton have improved a lot from past. Try look back year of 1st Proton Saga till to date Exora. Well done Proton. Few more years Proton will definitively surpass japan car manufacturers. I do agree on lack of quality in certain aspect of Proton but they are improving. This P3-21A will definitively Rock! cant wait to get my hands on it…