Proton Exora: the MPV Proton will launch!

Proton Exora

Proton has announced the name for the new Proton MPV – the Proton Exora! The Exora is based on the name of the Ixora flower, with the tagline “Keriangan Keluarga”. The name and tagline were picked by the Name The Proton MPV competition grand prize winner Norsholihan Bt Abdul Eanich, who will get to drive and own the 7-seater people mover she helped name once it is launched in April.

The company also revealed that the Proton Exora MPV will be priced at under RM 80,000 and will be available in 5 colours – Genetic Silver, Tranquility Black, Blue Haze, Pyrite Brown and Gaia Blue. In terms of safety, all variants will have at least 2 SRS airbags as standard, but this will be as far as it will go in terms of total airbag count. The Proton Exora will be built in the Shah Alam plant. Cost of development was slightly over RM 450 million.

Proton will produce between 3,000 to 3,500 units of the Proton Exora a month initially. After the local launch in April, the MPV will be swiftly exported to markets such as Thailand and Indonesia by July. We’ll see how the new Exora fares in an open market up with our friends up north against their favorite Toyota MPVs.

For more, please read some past coverage on the Proton Exora to find out more about the new MPV, expected to be powered by the Campro CPS engine. Bookings will be open at a fee of RM1,000 from this Saturday (21st Feb 2009) onwards.

Related Posts:
HOT: Proton MPV 100% fully uncovered
Proton MPV exclusive initial details revealed!
SPYSHOT: 2009 Proton MPV sheds some of its disguise
Proton MPV design registered with UK patent office
SPYSHOT: Proton MPV next to a Nissan Grand Livina

Looking to sell your car? Sell it with myTukar.

Certified Pre-Owned - 1 Year Warranty

10% discount when you renew your car insurance

Compare prices between different insurer providers and use the promo code 'PAULTAN10' when you make your payment to save the most on your car insurance renewal compared to other competing services.

Car Insurance

Paul Tan

After dabbling for years in the IT industry, Paul Tan initially began this site as a general blog covering various topics of personal interest. With an increasing number of readers paying rapt attention to the motoring stories, one thing led to another and the rest, as they say, is history.

 

Comments

  • apisgogo on Feb 17, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Good name.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Trinity on Feb 17, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Hmm, isnt the rules say no flora and fauna names?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Calvin5189 on Feb 17, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    why not the name I proposed "Proton Adilan"

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Steven on Feb 17, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    The name is good but the price is not worth…

    Its a proton the price should now tht much…

    many will still go for Avanza as is a more reliable car then porton…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 1
  • Mikhail on Feb 17, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    What, no white? Then spyshot was of what?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Contest entry submissions must be in either Bahasa Malaysia or English only and must:-

    – not consist of any form of the animal kingdom, or vegetation;

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Tok Penghulu on Feb 17, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Ah, maybe there is exception (or simply Proton forgot the rules it imposed?). Anyway, Exora is quite 'wow' name… :-)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • What the different

    EXORA and EZORA……….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MisterBenjo on Feb 17, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    aiya very common name…i think almost everybody propose this name

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • autojohndoe on Feb 17, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Hmm, isnt the rules say no flora and fauna names?

    ******

    If izora, maybe it is a flora, but EXORA… i dont know….

    haha… somebody near proton will know about apartment named nearly to this… apartment IXORA…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Trinity on Feb 17, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Apartment IXORA beside MMU, Melaka that is :-p

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • tHe^CuLpRit on Feb 17, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    very Lotus… starts with E, 5 letters….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • p1basher on Feb 17, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    weird name

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Hemo Hemo.. on Feb 17, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    oh my GOD.. i know who is the lucky winner :)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • barium on Feb 17, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    girlish name

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • autojohndoe on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    hmm.. also got another apartment with the same name eh?

    could be the winner is the resident of any of the two places… huhu..

    maybe, after this, some construction company wants to sue proton for using the similar sound name…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • stroller on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    congrate to Norsholihan Bt Abdul Eanich….

    hahaha… u watched "Izora" then u give the name after she….

    so, i can book 1 now…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • mitlanevo (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    exora, sounds good…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • eGentingHighlands on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    congrate to the winner.. proton exora? is it really based on ixora the flower..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • kang Ar Per on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    Congratulation 2 the winner!!! but mcm politik…buat syarat pertandingan tapi tak follow….:-)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • mspfaz on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    It assimilates an ex- terminology… ex-boyfriend, ex-girlfriend… ex-wife, ex-husband… and now ex-ora

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Bunga Ixora on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    E- Elegance

    X- Xtreme

    O- Original design from Proton

    R- Realistic

    A- Attractive

    i already proposed Ixora, but i dont expect it will be Exora since the word Exora cannot find in dictionary.. anyway congratz… next time we need to send all A-E-I -O-U… Axora, Exora, Oxora, Rxora, Uxora.. :)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Dracryst on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    On the first glimpse at the title of this entry, I almost thought it's "Lotus Evora" LOL.

    Congratulation to the winner, and hope that the full specs and pictures will be posted here before we start to make any judgements.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • romeo_misteri (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    does the winner is choosen if the participant works in government? bcoz i found the winner name in BPFK website. Biro Pengawalan Famaseutikal Kebangsaan (National Pharmaceutical Control Bureau).
    www.bpfk.gov.my
    and here the link when i search for Norsholihan in yahoo.
    www.bpfk.gov.my/pdfworddownload/Flier Adulterant 3.doc

    it seems that she is a Cik. still single la. so for who that still want this mpv can propose her and get married with her la. hahaha. if she say the name Exora is based on flower izora, so proton is a damn liar.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • NutzeyWagen (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    The new Exora will be using The 1.6 CPS DOHC with max output of 127ps/6500rpm n max torque of 150Nm/4500rpm. Gross weight is 1380kg.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • menawan on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    wat is that exora??????????

    wtf..

    i tot my proton menawan wins.. holys**T

    anyway nice name exora…wat the meaning paul?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • samdol on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    IXORA tak ada lambang MALAYSIA langsung not good I DONT LIKE IT ….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • NutzeyWagen (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Exora sounds Exotic n Erotic, so maybe someone can go romeo the misteri Cik n get the MPV too? Hope the Cik is as Exotic n Erotic as the Exora, otherwise, forget it romeo_misteri. Hehez.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • BrakeFader on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    They want people to believe it is first Lotus MPV. Exora is a nice name and hopefully the car is as good as the name.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • barium on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    the tagline is ok for the MPV i guess

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Fridz (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Sedap nama tu…

    Aik,i thought its like Lotus name.Lotus Evora…this Exora will pronoun as what?IK-ZO-RA or EKS-ZO-RA…?

    Proton salesperson said it will be priced at 69K-75K..is it correct?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • romeo_misteri (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    so who's the winner for the 2nd n 3rd place?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Juliet on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    romeo_misteri said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 11:19 am

    does the winner is choosen if the participant works in government? bcoz i found the winner name in BPFK website. Biro Pengawalan Famaseutikal Kebangsaan (National Pharmaceutical Control Bureau).
    http://www.bpfk.gov.my
    and here the link when i search for Norsholihan in yahoo.
    http://www.bpfk.gov.my/pdfworddownload/Flier Adulterant 3.doc

    it seems that she is a Cik. still single la. so for who that still want this mpv can propose her and get married with her la. hahaha. if she say the name Exora is based on flower izora, so proton is a damn liar.

    ——————————————

    biasala tu..bunga..bunga cinta…hehe.. kempen cintai bunga..

    the page that u mention is in year 2005, haha.. now maybe she is Puan already, with 3 kids… Congratulation to her… for those who are not lucky one, jangan frust try it next time..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • sha2857 on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    ahhh sound same with iswara …wira …n now exora …..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • romeo_misteri (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    damn..i still hope mine will win..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • kang Ar Per on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    what ever sound it is…it is not follow the rule of contest!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • farghmee on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    nice lotus-ish name 8)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • yY-Lamborghini-Yy on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Damn, i submitted the name 'LAMBORA' they rejected pula….lambora such a powerful word ! exora? so funny….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • romeo_misteri (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    why didn't she put rexona? hahaha. rexona sweat challenge.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • awahslayer on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    anyway, congrats proton!Exora pun Exora r..janji rock!jgn mcm tin milo sudah

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • based on investment of RM450 million, P1 need to sell 5,625 units to break-even supposed d unit price is RM80k.

    wondering what will b the facelift price after 5,625 units OTR later.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • exora..from scientific name of a plant – Ixora spp. Ada nama Ixora sunkist and so on dlm spesis yg sama.Ixora ni nama bunga siantan…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Soh Hai on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    Proton Apa Nama is a better name. Named after TDM famous quotes.

    Apalah, mcm mcm boleh jadi di Msia. T&C kata tak boleh, tapi suka2 bagi winner.

    I suspect ini semua sudah rigged. EXora was already a chosen name by proton way b4 the contest started. T&C was put in place so that no one will submit a duplicate name.

    WTF!

    Boycott stupid Proton Apa Nama?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Exotical on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    "Exora sounds Exotic n Erotic, so maybe someone can go romeo the misteri Cik n get the MPV too? Hope the Cik is as Exotic n Erotic as the Exora, otherwise, forget it romeo_misteri. Hehez."

    hahah..that a good one…once u drive it, u will feel exotic and erotic later…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Mig29_ria on Feb 17, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Sport Car – Lotus Evora and MPV – Proton Exora.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • mr.funtasticko on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    maybe proton target2 makcik2 with anak ramai for this mpv kot..that's why the name was exora..hehehe…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • aenz81 on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Steven said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 10:30 am

    The name is good but the price is not worth…

    Its a proton the price should now tht much…

    many will still go for Avanza as is a more reliable car then porton…

    —————————————————————-

    it's not about others peoples, it's about urself… if u still want go to for avanza, then go on… below RM80k for a huge mpv then it's will sell well… The interior accessories is great especially for Hi-Line model.. i know what the interior accessories and anothers specs from my friend who's a protonian.. Hi-Line model will impress malaysian fellas with it's prices… but i will never revealed it's here… i will kept it's as secret until the MPV was officially launch… that why i'm believe it's will sell like a hot cakes… anyway, i will book 1 for myself… i will never go for cramped avanza…

    =============================================

    p1basher said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 10:57 am

    weird name

    —————————————————————-

    Then,

    Toyota passo sette (satay)

    Daihatsu boon rominous (boontoot)

    is good meh??

    haiz…..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Soh Hai on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    wah 2nd n 3rd winner apa nama kasi tahu la. Jgn Jgn Proton Apa Nama

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • NutzeyWagen (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    romeo_misteri, you really split my side with your rexona. LMAO. Exotical, if we feel exotic n get erotic while driving it, we'll lose control of Exora n WHAM!!! Repot n claim insuran.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Kang Ar Per on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    2nd Winner =KEMBOJA

    3rd Winner =TERATAI

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • kamal on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    errmm exora is one of flora name…huh isnt the competition rules said NO FLORA & FAUNA NAME? hohoho

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • utpian on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    cess budak petronas/utp yg menang 2nd. i wonder what he suggested.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • ApaNama on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Soh Hai said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 12:10 pm

    wah 2nd n 3rd winner apa nama kasi tahu la. Jgn Jgn Proton Apa Nama

    ———————————————-

    He, He, He! <– new TDM trademark, apanama expired already…

    All,

    Any LEAKED interior pictures? Waa..sure Paultan blogger's comments will be on Tv3 again…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • NutzeyWagen (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    I think the Cik had went into a partnership n then started production n now needs transportation for their products; that's why she 'won' the Exora.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • aenz81 on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    for peoples who didn't get this mpv for free because did not win the contest, dont be so emo…"bukan rezeki korang tu"… try again next time.. … and congrats to ms/mrs/mdm Norsholihan Bt Abdul Eanich for becoming a contest winner…

    I will open a contest for naming my kitten… the winner will get that kitten as prizes… hahaha… :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • nightReader on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Salam peace (~_^)v

    Check the Terms & Cons:

    http://www.namakanprotonmpv.com/bm/terms_and_cond…

    "Tidak diambil daripada mana-mana nama binatang atau tumbuh-tumbuhan;"

    http://www.namakanprotonmpv.com/en/terms_and_cond…

    "not consist of any form of the animal kingdom, or vegetation;"

    Huh! Proton tipoo..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • NutzeyWagen (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    Zena (it's female, right?).

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • nonengko on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    really fed up when you have rules but can be broken

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • menyampah on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    proton tipu la.

    nama exora tu nama flora dan fauna..

    citpodah.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Soh Hai on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    what do u expect fro Proton anyway? Has been BS us for 20 over years!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • NutzeyWagen (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Well, rules are meant to be broken.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Big Fish & TV3 J on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Suddenly Paultan's Automotive Forum become Emotional Forum :) :) :)

    Waiting for EXORA Red Concept :) Thophilus Chin, any idea?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • hensem on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    ceh…aku letak proton sawa…xmenang pun..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Tengokaje.. on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    I tought no flora and fauna name in the first place..

    If can I will proposed RAFFLESIA hee…hee…hee…

    P1 didn't play by the rules that they already annouced

    Tak de rezeki, nak buat macam mane..

    My suggestion PERSADA or PERMATA for this new MPV

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • wirawannaga on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    hahaha…. rule say no animal and flora name but still pick flora name…

    seem like name other than flora are very useless and they have to break the rule.. hohohoho…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • nabill on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    guys stop the sulking la , its gone now , life goes on , nobody said life is fair! lets talk about the car…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Littlefire on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Dont assume this will be a good start for Proton MPV.. price if not mistaken is around RM70-80k.

    You must consider the price list is around T.Avanza, N.Livina, NAZA/Kia Rondo/Citra and also Suzuki APV (RM60k).

    Besides that, the rumoured Perodua MPV is heard to price between RM60-70k cheaper than proton around RM10k & coming by June or July. Proton will win ppl by cool design, space & big size, but the 1.6L engine may be a set back for a big size MPV (except they have 1.8L or turbo engine).

    The original weight maybe around 1300-1400kg but you must know bigger space inside can fill in more stuff so think 1 ppl around 65kg * 7 (Max) = 455kg + luggage/shopping stuff (7 ppl stuff) add plus also around 30kg = 485+1300kg = 1785kg. So 1.6L CPS engine can move 1785kg MPV smoothly? This is just opinion, but for those ppl with kids or less stuff the weight will be less..

    From my personal view, if want to buy this MPV go for manual. I got a bit feeling that Auto will be underpowered if full house… Still i will wait for Perodua MPV first before making any decision which will made me regret afterwords..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • sagaKNIGHT on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    congratulation to the winners!

    Proton Exora 1.6 CPS….

    sound like ultra moden name

    hope the name fair with spec and

    features will introduce by proton later..

    maybe proton choose that name

    coz they targeted export market…

    so is easily for oversea people to mention it

    just my opinion.

    huu,ada rasa sedih jugak tak terpilih entry

    :(

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • haikal on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Tahniah Proton! New mpvProton

    Tapi cakap haritu nama tumbuhan haiwan takleh tapi camner skarang ni dah nama Exora lak, takdeke nama yang melayu,malaysia skit?balik2 B.Inggeris je, lainlah kalau krete protonni kilang kat U.K, Germen ke, nikat shah alam tjg malim je..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Javanese (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    People keep bringing up the Suzuki APV… fact is, nobody bought any and personally I rather be caught dead than drive one. To the people who ask can the japanese design a worse looking car than Proton Juara, there's your answer. It's nothing but a bread on wheels.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • nonengko on Feb 17, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    jangan sedih la sagaknight, ada orang kata "rules meant to be broken" ma

    just let them do what they please la, malaysia boleh ma…….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • moha774 on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    I think, Proton will use the same gearbox as in satria neo CPS. different ratio for 2nd and 3rd gear… anyway lucky her, although rules has been broken… If this ever happens in some other country, Proton might have been sued for not sticking to the rules… anybody??

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • mr.funtasticko on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    the new PROTON EXORA…tagline, " Breaking the rules.." Ok what…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyviKiller on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    Sounds Perodua-ish to me. BTW I've compiled a video of the Exora:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ItvKWlsxwo

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • goguncas71 (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Husband – "Honey I got you the Exora for you and the kids ok.."

    Wife – "Thats lovely of you honey…but you need a car too.."

    Husband – "Dont worry..I'll get the Evora…"

    Wife – "Evora? What's that?"

    Husband – "Just another product from Proton family…here please sign this blank HP form for the Evora…"

    Wife – "Sure thing honey, I love you…"

    Husband – "I love you too… :) "

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Cikgu Bahasa Malaysi on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    haha, aku hntar lebih dr 3 entri. Kejora, Perkasa, Harmoni, Aura….sipi pun xkena. Xda rezki..tggu utk perodua punya mpv plak..woha!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • not_ah_beng on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Hahaha…………so expensive for a Proton? Big risk to buy. Plus not using existing engine which we know its reliability and performance already, but larger engine – everyone know the issue with the Gen2s before.

    Perodua MPV based on Myvi gonna outsell this piece of junk.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • sagaKNIGHT on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    nonengko said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 12:54 pm

    jangan sedih la sagaknight, ada orang kata “rules meant to be broken” ma

    just let them do what they please la, malaysia boleh ma…….

    —————————————

    hah,next time kita cuba lagi…

    nama exora pun ok dah…

    nama dah ada…

    kita tengok how perform

    mpv tu nanti..

    ada jugak yg nak bash nama

    mpv ni,mpv belum keluar lagi

    daripada certain nama japan car

    lagi pelik2..

    tak nampak pulak orang komplen

    sendiri fikirlah ye

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • not_ah_beng on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    @Littlefire,

    Even if this Exora is gonna be priced same as Perodua MPV oso is gonna be outsold by the Perodua MPV.

    Why? People trust in Toyota design (especially engine) and manufacturing process.

    Plus, lets face it. Despite what the fanboys says, Proton is a bad choice due to low 2ndhand value. Go read Motor Trader and you'll find 2ndhand residual value is very strong for Japanese make like Toyota and Honda and even for P2 Myvi.

    Compare to Proton Savvy or even Gen2? No chance lah….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • takumi on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    alaa…. rugi.. aku dh letak nama tuh… cuma eja IXORA…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • bmpower on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Ixora = flower

    Exora is not.

    the vegitation banned because bashers said :

    Savvy = sawi.

    that's how.

    btw,i think it's a very good name. just like lotus family.

    Evora, Elise, Exige, Esprit .

    ending with RA is the famous term here.

    including me those suggest 'Aurora' name. :D

    unlucky me.

    Upcoming toyota badged perodua will name.

    Perodua keRA lol!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • irwan on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    RULE WAS BROKEN BY WHOM SET THE RULE!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • bmpower on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    btw.. the EXORA emblem is nice!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • anak tembesu on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    fikir2lah banyak kali kalu nak beli first model ni.biasanya banyak errornya.lepas banyak komplen baru terhegeh2 nak betulkan.macam pembeli tempat try & error.harga pun bukan seriggit dua rinngit.apa-apa pun good luck lah pada model mpv proton ni.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • tayar kitar semula (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    aku letak nama Proton Lebah! patut aku dapat nombor 2… kan bunga ngan lebah tu geng?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • kimi_ on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Damn i thought proton cicak. coz cicakman:P

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • pixie_wawan on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    waaa, I like it so much the name of new proton mpv..

    so macth woo.. " Proton Exora "

    truly awsome!!

    at the end of the day, Well Done Proton!

    :)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • kimi_ on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    I will consider Grand Livina coz diff few thousand only.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Cikgu Bahasa Malaysi on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Please choose below, which one will be named for upcoming MPV after Exora.

    A) Exotic

    B) Express

    C) Elelele

    D) Econsave

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • pixie_wawan on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Steven said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 10:30 am

    The name is good but the price is not worth…

    Its a proton the price should now tht much…

    many will still go for Avanza as is a more reliable car then porton…

    —————————————————————-

    If you like Toyota Avanza, just go and get yourself one of it. The people market and reseacrh of proton knows what suite for the price of it. If you clever and so on want to compare this and that, just go make your other nasional car. we all can judge that one. cheers! :)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • I my (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    "Cost of development was slightly over RM 450 million." WALAU.. for a MPV!!????

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • not_ah_beng on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    @I my:

    Develop higher cc Campro CPS Engine = ard RM 100 million (since only modified existing engine)

    Design interior and exterior of new MPV = ard RM150 million

    Set up new production lines = ard RM100 million

    Promotional costs, advertising, etc = ard RM50 million

    Corruption, wastages, etc like normal GLC = RM50 million.

    ____________________________________________________________

    Total cost = RM450 million lo.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • mystvearn (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    When Jeremy Clarkson reviews this car. It will be called. Proton Ebola :P

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • I think the name is influenced by EZORA malay tv series at!!!!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • ENZO (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    typical proton name,end with 'a'

    eg:

    sag'a'

    iswar'a'

    wir'a'

    satri'a'

    juar'a'

    putr'a'

    aren'a'

    perdan'a' now exor'a'

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • azrai on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Exora maybe to reflect those Lotus Evora name in Proton Holding group. Anyway, it is still flora name. Anyone want to sue Proton on its non-compliances to their rule. Maybe Karpal Singh can come in, or maybe Sirul's lawyer can.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Kang Ar Per on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    bukan sedih pasal tak menang….itu tak ade rezeki ,tapi sedih sebab KENA TIPU idup-idup by Proton MALAYSIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • OMG, wake up fagots! Ixora is a floral name, EXORA is not! No wonder malaysian are so easily being cheated by the gov, damn stupid and lazy to use the already small brain…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Ladynoe on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    what is the rational of the name to that car?

    So girlish.

    apa rational inspirasi bunga ke atas kereta?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • lambov12 on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    exora … very lotus-ish …

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyviKiller on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    The next model should be named as Proton Rexona instead…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • torque (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Not bad! Now, let's wait for the real thing….nama sedap tapi kalau barang tak baik buat aper….that's the most important thing!!! The MPV must be good…price…belakang kira…name…belakang kira jugak…congrats to the winner and congrats to Proton for releasing it soon!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • White Jack (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    I really have big question mark how the development cost for such MPV is so high, 450 Millions is a lot of money. I believe engine is not included as the CPS Campro engine is already "developed".

    With some rough calculation, Proton needs to sell 5625 units of Exora just to recover the cost. And probably need to sell 5 times the unit amount to start getting some profit.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • LogicallyMad (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    not_ah_beng said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 1:11 pm

    Hahaha…………so expensive for a Proton? Big risk to buy. Plus not using existing engine which we know its reliability and performance already, but larger engine – everyone know the issue with the Gen2s before.

    Perodua MPV based on Myvi gonna outsell this piece of junk.

    ————————–

    I'm becoming even confident that this fella is a periukdua..ooopsss PERODUA employee.. =p

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Berikut adalah syarat2 yang diberi oleh pihak PROTON: (please read the first condition)

    Penyertaan hendaklah sama ada dalam bahasa Malaysia atau bahasa Inggeris dan mestilah:-

    1- Tidak diambil daripada mana-mana nama binatang atau tumbuh-tumbuhan;

    2- Tidak mengandungi bahasa kasar atau kesat atau membawa konotasi tidak baik, seperti "Bodoh";

    3- Boleh diterima secara komersial, contohnya "Proton Waja";

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • LogicallyMad (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Hmmm lets see…….

    Develope new platform…

    Tuning the CPS engine…

    Hiring consultant….

    Testings…..

    developing components…

    Renovation of factory to suit the MPV production…

    New stamping moulds….

    Etc… Etc….

    i would say the cost of those thing could easily exceed 450 mill…. esp the testing parts…

    cheers..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Jake02 on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Gee, how could no-one see the difference between Lotus Evora and Proton Exora???? You can really tell that Proton owns Lotus, can't you?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • unamed on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    name also they already tipu, don't know what they'll tipu next..

    hopefully not like that.. right P1.. :)>-

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • i tought there sholdnt be any flora and fauna name..ni mesti ada sedara mara ni dalam proton…what he heck..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • autojohndoe on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    not ah beng… u can see the future eh?

    wow… can see the perodua Mpv outsell the proton at present… even there are not anyone seen P2 mpv yet…

    so cool r u…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • AT least the name ain't sounding so cheesy.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • bertenang on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    "not consist of any form of the animal kingdom, or vegetation;"

    "consist of" and "based on" are two different things, though not very far apart in this case.

    EXORA is based on, but not consist of a floral name. So i don't see any rules being broken here.

    Just my two cents.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • tiadaid on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Exora? Sounds abit like the Lotus Evora.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • NutzeyWagen (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    PROTON EXORA : M-line RM70,400.00 H-line RM74,500.00……Comes with bluetooth/hands-free radio (yes you can plug your hp into the radio)..with caller ID. 8.5" TFT LCD DVD player @ the 2nd row…for viewing pleasure. Cabin size similar to Grandis. In-dash Gate-type gear lever n self-illuminating meter cluster. Hv separate rear aircond blower. Applies to both variants. The Exora is also packed wiyh unbelievable features….quality is GREAT! Before any of you bash me, go check it out 1st hand. It now uses a body-control-module (BCM) which is basically a printed circuit-board that reduces electrical components (eg. relays) n wirings. Therefore it reduces vendors too. The BCM is manufactured in Seberang Prai n functions like the i-Drive found in BMWs/Mercs. There are so much new features in the Exora that you'll be SURPRISED! At least I was. You simply hv to check it out yourself.

    The powertrain. Even I was skeptical at first, but now I say, TRY IT OUT FIRST, before you bash (I made that mistake). I really do hope that this is THE revival of P1.

    P/S: Forget abt the competitors. Get this.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • fairus on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    For me personally, owning an MPV for the 'keriangan keluarga' doesn't appeal me!

    Since not ALL FAMILY MEN/WOMEN would buy the car for family usage, it could still be used for personal usage for example : Spaciousness, Multi-usage (for leisure or business), individuality or family.

    Besides, if they really wanted a rhymed name, they should've told us that…. I'd surely think of a name that would rhyme with Wira, Iswara, Putra hence resulted a "Binasa"….

    :P

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • stroller on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    what ever…. the winner has announced…. so whether the u like it or not it will b around u sooner… the choice is ur's….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • stroller on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    whatever…. the winner has been announced…. so whether u like it or not it will b around u sooner… so many argue this and that, go make ur DIY car… it can fit whatever ur want. the choice is ur's….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • normal_user on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    WAHHH.

    I'm soo close to winning the MPV.

    I submitted the name EXIRA!

    How I wished I could go back in time, and change that one single alphabet from I to O!!!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • stroller on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    NutzeyWagen said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 2:42 pm

    PROTON EXORA : M-line RM70,400.00 H-line RM74,500.00……Comes with bluetooth/hands-free radio (yes you can plug your hp into the radio)..with caller ID. 8.5? TFT LCD DVD player @ the 2nd row…for viewing pleasure. Cabin size similar to Grandis. In-dash Gate-type gear lever n self-illuminating meter cluster. Hv separate rear aircond blower. Applies to both variants. The Exora is also packed wiyh unbelievable features….quality is GREAT! Before any of you bash me, go check it out 1st hand. It now uses a body-control-module (BCM) which is basically a printed circuit-board that reduces electrical components (eg. relays) n wirings. Therefore it reduces vendors too. The BCM is manufactured in Seberang Prai n functions like the i-Drive found in BMWs/Mercs. There are so much new features in the Exora that you’ll be SURPRISED! At least I was. You simply hv to check it out yourself.

    The powertrain. Even I was skeptical at first, but now I say, TRY IT OUT FIRST, before you bash (I made that mistake). I really do hope that this is THE revival of P1.

    P/S: Forget abt the competitors. Get this.

    ***********************

    wow.. that's sound great…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Aiman Tak Kisah on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    NutzeyWagen said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 2:42 pm

    PROTON EXORA : M-line RM70,400.00 H-line RM74,500.00……Comes with bluetooth/hands-free radio (yes you can plug your hp into the radio)..with caller ID. 8.5? TFT LCD DVD player @ the 2nd row…for viewing pleasure. Cabin size similar to Grandis. In-dash Gate-type gear lever n self-illuminating meter cluster. Hv separate rear aircond blower. Applies to both variants. The Exora is also packed wiyh unbelievable features….quality is GREAT! Before any of you bash me, go check it out 1st hand. It now uses a body-control-module (BCM) which is basically a printed circuit-board that reduces electrical components (eg. relays) n wirings. Therefore it reduces vendors too. The BCM is manufactured in Seberang Prai n functions like the i-Drive found in BMWs/Mercs. There are so much new features in the Exora that you’ll be SURPRISED! At least I was. You simply hv to check it out yourself.

    The powertrain. Even I was skeptical at first, but now I say, TRY IT OUT FIRST, before you bash (I made that mistake). I really do hope that this is THE revival of P1.

    P/S: Forget abt the competitors. Get this.

    ——————————————————

    Wow… i hope it is true… any picture to support your statement? :)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • apo itu namo? on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    exora, evora takde nama lain ke?

    Keno ikut trend pokok, sayur, macam itu proton sawi.

    Proton Kangkung okey juga.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • LogicallyMad (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    bertenang said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 2:38 pm

    “not consist of any form of the animal kingdom, or vegetation;”

    “consist of” and “based on” are two different things, though not very far apart in this case.

    EXORA is based on, but not consist of a floral name. So i don’t see any rules being broken here.

    Just my two cents.

    ————–

    you got it right…. that is the case…

    ppl so easily confused by some words…. "consist of" and "based on" are two different things…

    I believe some ppl realise it , it just that their judgement is clouded by their anguish cuz they did not win the competition… =p

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Aiman Tak Kisah on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    LogicallyMad said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 2:28 pm

    Hmmm lets see…….

    Develope new platform…

    Tuning the CPS engine…

    Hiring consultant….

    Testings…..

    developing components…

    Renovation of factory to suit the MPV production…

    New stamping moulds….

    Etc… Etc….

    i would say the cost of those thing could easily exceed 450 mill…. esp the testing parts…

    cheers..

    ———————————————————–

    i think LogicallyMad is Si-Fu..hehe bcoz si-fu always use Cheers at the of of his comment.. , just my 6senses :)

    Si-Fu,

    any comments from your side? … i know your you want to write something about this..hehe..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • mmehh on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    since when said proton "tipu"? rules said no flora fauna name.. i dont see proton hibiscus win? its not proton kumbang, proton tiger, proton badak either.

    from what i understand, its proton ixora BASED on ixora name.if the winner happens to get the idea from a flora fauna name, so be it.

    stop being such a loser.the competition is over.u did not win.

    im gutted too. my proton bidak (based on badak name) didnt win. sigh.. but life goes on.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • jazzer on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    hey NutzeyWagen…where do you get all sorts of information….are u an insider.if yes,that means we have another si-fu here…you has made my curiosity higher to see it once it launches soon..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • n.aniham on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    Great! Fail again to put my name on something…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • si-fu (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    NutzeyWagen….

    U seem to know quite alot, r u a vendor?

    Regarding the development cost, u all think doing a an MPV is like doing karipap or what? I consider RM 450mil as quite reasonable because we developed a new platform and many new innovations has gone into this 'baby'! I told be4 in the previous post sumwhere, that prototypes cost a bom cause it made of prototype components that is produced in a very small amount. so each complete vehicle could cost hundreds of thousands…then developing a whole new platform is not quite cheap, cause we need to do it from scratch and use outside help (consultants) since we dont have that many manpower. An example of cost in a new vehicle development, the side structure a vehicle, is stamped (metal stamping)….to produce a new die just to produce the side structure only costs arnd RM 10mil…..that is the cost of producing the stamping die only, doesn't include the development costs of the die and so on….that is only one part…how about the few hundred metal parts that a vehicle has? Each metal part has to stamped, or forged….and all their dies need MONEY to develop and build….that is the manufacturing part, how about testing…like i said be4, prototypes are expensive….to develop the prototypes needs money, and to finalize the prototype (final design/hard tooling) needs more money…..then comes the cost of design changes, overseas testing, crast test….refurbishment of the manufacturing system and plant….there are hundreds of cost to be considered to produce a car from THE DRAWING TO A SELLABLE VEHICLE! So please think properly…..

    Btw, congrats to winner….the name is 'BASED' ON THE NAME IXORA….IXORA IS THE FLOWER NAME…..NOT EXORA…….if the name was IXORA, then the rules are broken….why Malaysian's are so ignorant? Everything also tak puas hati, nak complain…..bangga lah sikit dengan apa yg kita boleh capai, anak malaysia kita sendiri….slalu nak agungkan org luar, tp diri sendiri, kebolehan diri sendiri? 'Org Luar' tuh pun bukan pandai terus dlm sehari, 'rome was never built in a day'….mereka pun ambik masa yg lama utk belajar dr kesilapan…..Toyota, dah 70thn dalam industri automotif….tuh pun, saya pasti mereka masih belajar lagi….Cubalah tgk mcm mana org2 korea dan jepun bg sokongan kat product mereka….masa mula2 toyota buat kereta, walaupun kereta mereka tak bagus, org jepun tetap bg sokongan kat mereka….sebab tuh lah, utk 70thn yg lepas toyota tak penah mengalami kerugian…kenapa? Skarang yer, jualan toyota byk bergantung pada jualan dunia dia, tapi pada masa mula2 mereka membuat kereta (utk lbh 20thn yg pertama), macam mana mereka boleh maintain keuntungan mereka? Pikir-pikirkanlah wahai rakyat Malaysia…..

    -the grass is never greener on the other side, its just the way at how u look at it-'si-fu'

    Cheers!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • stroller on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    NutzeyWagen said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 2:42 pm- ur information quiet detail here… u hv been atend the mpv course arent u???

    still waiting si-fu for futher info….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • littlefire & not-ah-beng,

    Give me five guys coz i cant agree with u more , d name is crap sounds like another type of VIAGRA pill & d price is rediculous for a 1.6l. Its a completely new model if with cps engine dunno how's d reliability is. Remember Gen 2?

    Definately p2 will b cheaper than this EX-ORAL watever & i will hold my money until p2 mpv comes out. Money is yours just spend it as u want.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • goguncas71 (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    Heard from an insider, a lot to the sales training will be on the power to weight and performance numbers/comparison with other MPVs – mainly to counter the "Proton's MPV is underpowered" argument rival carmaker salesmen will be using…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • si-fu sana si-fu sin on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    BASED’ ON THE NAME IXORA….IXORA IS THE FLOWER NAME…..NOT EXORA…….if the name was IXORA, then the rules are broken….why Malaysian’s are so ignorant?

    nobody malaysians (malay, chinese,indians,others) know what the meaning of 'EXORA'…maybe typing error ,thats y we are so ignorant…only 'si-fu' is the best in the world….

    GTH

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • farghmee on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    mir ist heiss..huhu

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Aiman Tak Kisah on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    si-fu said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 3:16 pm

    NutzeyWagen….

    U seem to know quite alot, r u a vendor?

    Regarding the development cost, u all think doing a an MPV is like doing karipap or what? I consider RM 450mil as quite reasonable because we developed a new platform and many new innovations has gone into this ‘baby’! I told be4 in the previous post sumwhere, that prototypes cost a bom cause it made of prototype components that is produced in a very small amount. so each complete vehicle could cost hundreds of thousands…then developing a whole new platform is not quite cheap, cause we need to do it from scratch and use outside help (consultants) since we dont have that many manpower. An example of cost in a new vehicle development, the side structure a vehicle, is stamped (metal stamping)….to produce a new die just to produce the side structure only costs arnd RM 10mil…..that is the cost of producing the stamping die only, doesn’t include the development costs of the die and so on….that is only one part…how about the few hundred metal parts that a vehicle has? Each metal part has to stamped, or forged….and all their dies need MONEY to develop and build….that is the manufacturing part, how about testing…like i said be4, prototypes are expensive….to develop the prototypes needs money, and to finalize the prototype (final design/hard tooling) needs more money…..then comes the cost of design changes, overseas testing, crast test….refurbishment of the manufacturing system and plant….there are hundreds of cost to be considered to produce a car from THE DRAWING TO A SELLABLE VEHICLE! So please think properly…..

    Btw, congrats to winner….the name is ‘BASED’ ON THE NAME IXORA….IXORA IS THE FLOWER NAME…..NOT EXORA…….if the name was IXORA, then the rules are broken….why Malaysian’s are so ignorant? Everything also tak puas hati, nak complain…..bangga lah sikit dengan apa yg kita boleh capai, anak malaysia kita sendiri….slalu nak agungkan org luar, tp diri sendiri, kebolehan diri sendiri? ‘Org Luar’ tuh pun bukan pandai terus dlm sehari, ‘rome was never built in a day’….mereka pun ambik masa yg lama utk belajar dr kesilapan…..Toyota, dah 70thn dalam industri automotif….tuh pun, saya pasti mereka masih belajar lagi….Cubalah tgk mcm mana org2 korea dan jepun bg sokongan kat product mereka….masa mula2 toyota buat kereta, walaupun kereta mereka tak bagus, org jepun tetap bg sokongan kat mereka….sebab tuh lah, utk 70thn yg lepas toyota tak penah mengalami kerugian…kenapa? Skarang yer, jualan toyota byk bergantung pada jualan dunia dia, tapi pada masa mula2 mereka membuat kereta (utk lbh 20thn yg pertama), macam mana mereka boleh maintain keuntungan mereka? Pikir-pikirkanlah wahai rakyat Malaysia…..

    -the grass is never greener on the other side, its just the way at how u look at it-’si-fu’

    Cheers!

    ——————————————————-

    Finally,

    Si-Fu has spoken… hehe… my 6sense is true. anyway, i will support this Exora.. I also proposed Proton Cassini and Proton Ixora, but it is not my luck :) For future, can Proton design own SUV?

    Anyway, GOOD JOB to Protonian, Si-Fu (Azlano?) and the gang for this Exora..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Hj Samuri on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    Aiyoh si-fu…

    Based on, consist of, of course it's 2 different things maaa. But once said cannot follow meh? you check ms word Thesaurus (press shift+F7 pade yang tak tau) after you type 'consist of' dan highlight word tu ada banyak ayat yang similar meaning :

    a) Be made of

    b) Be made up of

    c) contained

    d) Be composed of

    e) Comprise

    Sekarang, Bukankah EXORA adalah COMPOSITION untuk IXORA ke?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Somehow i know,

    the winner wont be other than Malay.

    Other races dun stand a chance in this type of competition.

    Ha ha

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • people_say on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    I believe some ppl realise it , it just that their judgement is clouded by their anguish cuz they did not win the competition… =p

    LogicallyMad

    =============================================

    Angry….

    No sirrie…..!

    If i have the money, i would not buy the car oso. Malaysian made… rubbish….!

    I heard from a reliable source, during testing they turun genting, enjin meletup! Masa tu pakai body lain.

    But Exora is a sexy name………..

    B-)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • NutzeyWagen (Member) on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    Check out the head-rests too. It's not your usual pull up/push down type. RM450mil for RnD? Too much spent? Try taking apart your present vehicle n check every components thoroughly. (Taking it apart means down to the bare metal). Then go source for new components(parts), then assemble what you've got (don't use parts from your vehicle). After you've assembled it, crash it into a solid wall. Then go check your bill. How much spent ah?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • NutzeyWagen (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 12:08 am

    Proton Exora under-powered? Here are the figures.

    1380kg ; 1597cc ; 125bhp/127ps (whichever you want to use).

    Now go do your maths. Done? OK. How much bhp per 1L (1000cc)?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Autobahn on Feb 18, 2009 at 12:11 am

    what kind of stupid name is this

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • anak tembesu on Feb 18, 2009 at 12:20 am

    facelifted may be consider,still trauma with Gen2 first model!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • mavericksam on Feb 18, 2009 at 12:24 am

    NutzeyWagen said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 4:08 pm

    Proton Exora under-powered? Here are the figures.

    1380kg ; 1597cc ; 125bhp/127ps (whichever you want to use).

    Now go do your maths. Done? OK. How much bhp per 1L (1000cc)?

    _________________________________________________________________________

    Cool… but what is the lower RPM hp? say bout 2 – 3.5k rpm? That i reckon is the usual average joe would use right? (well at least i drive at that range)… also what is the max torque and torque at that range? not comparing but just curious…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • CFA28 on Feb 18, 2009 at 12:26 am

    the cost of developing a new platform at RM450 million (USD128 mil – based on USD1:RM3.5) is relatively cheap. As the engine is the same as the Waja / Gen2/Neo CPS, the margins for these models will be higher than if a new engine were plonked in. I suppose if a new engine was plonked in, the cost could easily be RM750 million.

    This is not to say that there is no leakage, but a totally new platform for less than RM500 million is reasonable. However, Proton must start exporting to achieve economies of scale and lower its prod cost and should start giving its local customers better or same specs as overseas customers.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • tak puas ati on Feb 18, 2009 at 12:27 am

    apasal aku tak menang pulak? x dak rezeki kot. Gua bg nama Proton Ilusif. Sedap dak?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • kerelbort on Feb 18, 2009 at 12:31 am

    soooooooooooooooooooooooooo many people are jealous about the winning, anyhoo, congrats to the winner and the name can go international easily, Exora complement e-banking, e-government and so forth… so in this posting i will be Emphasizing the lEttEr E..

    thEse bittEr fElla flamE like no tomorrow.. i too submittEd at lEast 8 namE for this compEtition and I must admit EXORA is quitE a good namE. anyhoo, i'm morE jEalous with the runnEr up winnEr, frankly i was targEting that prizE which is trip for 2 to Lotus UK.. hEhEh…

    and I also sEnsE somE othEr compEtitor takE thE namE quitE surprisEd and launch thEir attack modE sEquEnce toward Proton Exora.

    from the initial spEc Exora doEs sound nicE… 80K might bE the max pricE(lots of spEakEr and monitor hErE and thErE) and pEoplE can start comparing it with toyota wish or honda strEam also rathEr than livina,avanza,gaga,gugu,gigi model, bEar in mind that this product bEnchmark is toyota wish…

    using a printEd circuit is much bEttEr than rElay usage since it is Easily fixEd ( i imaginE changing ram on a pc here) and much bEttEr if can bE donE by End usEr than charging the End usEr with labor cost.

    sEriously I am proud with the namE and the product itsElf, hopE it would be very good, listEning to a auto consultant from SynErgy US intErviEw yEst and hE did mEntion Proton nEEd an affordablE quality car to outshinE.

    go go go

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • brutal_driverz on Feb 18, 2009 at 12:32 am

    proton EXORA

    lotus EVORA

    what your comment,friends?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Agentz on Feb 18, 2009 at 12:33 am

    tagline is soooo simple… i cracked my head to think of a tagline for this car.. but KERIANGAN KELUARGA? WTH !!!

    and i agree.. proton contest rules suck… maybe they choose their crony to win.. anyway im out…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • EXORA

    EXtra ORAng = MPV

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • CFA28 on Feb 18, 2009 at 12:38 am

    mavericksam said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 4:24 pm

    NutzeyWagen said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 4:08 pm

    Proton Exora under-powered? Here are the figures.

    1380kg ; 1597cc ; 125bhp/127ps (whichever you want to use).

    Now go do your maths. Done? OK. How much bhp per 1L (1000cc)?

    _________________________________________________________________________

    How does this compare against the Grand Livina or even the Avanza 1.5 or Rush 1.5 although technically, the Avanza / Rush is lower cost platform.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • kerelbort on Feb 18, 2009 at 12:47 am

    now what I hatE is that all proton supportEr and bashEr will comE out full forcE and suddEnly thEy all havE diploma in automotivE EnginEEring…

    also whEn i wEnt to a showroom and start asking tEchnical knowlEdgE of thE salEsman and thEy start talking crap whEn I usEd thEir wEapons to attack thEm, in this casE…. wEight to powEr ratio…

    whEn othEr pEoplE who rEally carE to buy a car concErn about fuEl consumption, thosE racEboy wannabE thinking about tuning thE racE quatEr milE..

    bE rEalistic.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Alexander The Great on Feb 18, 2009 at 12:49 am

    Weird, of late Proton is applying for the trademark of EXORA and ESFORA…anyone suggested ESFORA??

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • xpatut on Feb 18, 2009 at 12:50 am

    Based on ka, consist on ka, lebih kurang saja…

    beribu-ribu peserta terperdaya dengan syarat tersebut.

    Proton seolah-olah tidak menghargai peserta yang bersusah payah mengerah otak untuk mencari nama untuk mpv tersebut..

    Lastly syarat tidak digunapakai dan diputarbelit…

    Lagi pun Exora tu bukan perkataan Melayu, tidak mcm waja, wira, saga dan seumpamanya

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Wisdom (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 12:51 am

    Pity if this thread reflects the true Malaysian attitude as a whole

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • profuture on Feb 18, 2009 at 12:53 am

    comment from si-fu is 101% right!

    RM450mil RnD for this MPV within 21 months tak la mahal sangat compared with other manufacturer. Even mitsubishi 380, RnD cost nearly AUD 600mil.

    bagi ar credit kat si-fu n the geng. We Malaysian should proud. Kat dunia nie hanya ada 11 negara jer pengeluar kereta. Salah satunya MALAYSIA!

    EXORA is a quiet nice name too. Mungkin ramai rakyat Malaysia tak begitu tahu pembangunan sesebuah model kereta. sebab tu diorang cakap yang bukan2.

    Apa2 pun bravo EXORA!!! Hanya jauhari mengenal manikam.

    cheers!! :)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Wisdom (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:01 am

    Sifu may i know the crash safety rating for this Exora?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Nissan Grand Livina only selling at RM85k.

    For smart people like you and me, sure buy Nissan Livina la…

    Proton Exora? RM80k for a MILO-tin alike MPV, i wonder who will buy this car…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • zouseous on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:05 am

    Put any name.. u guys still bla bla about it.. lol

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • wiraperkasa on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:06 am

    5 star for crash safety rating….

    just kiding:p

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Don't worry if u not win the contest.

    Try again because I think p1 can produce more models when we continue to support them.

    I hope if the name submitted in the contest can be re-used to new models then, we can get some credits. hehe :)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • mukhri88 on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:10 am

    Will be ferrying my family around. My current Naza Ria scores a lousy 2 star Euro ENCAP(scary). Is this Exora any better? If yes, then good choice. Will strongly consider a swap.

    Power and price is secondary issue. Safety first priority. Kesian family man orang rumah tak bagi beli sports sedan.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • nice and simple name. not like naza new rebadge mpv name: naza citra II rondo, weird n not sound nice at all..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • si-fu (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:21 am

    Ok guys, some of u might be telling, whats the point of having 150Nm's of torque and 125Hp but only achieve that at 4800rpm an 6500rpm for the latter…..okey lets talk about the normal driving range engine speed….most of us drive at about 2000 to 3500 rpm….at this rpm, the power and torque that u get from the 1.6CPS is about:

    Power : 28KW to 52KW (37.5HP to 69.7HP)

    Torque :132Nm to 142Nm (88% to 95% of the max torque produced)

    As we all know, for low speed engine, the power produced is realtively low, this cant be helped…but what is important is the torque….as i have stated above, u can get 88% to 95% of the max torque from 2000rpm to 3500 rpm in an ALMOST LINEAR INCREASING MANNER!!!(which means no any nasty dip in between it like the bare campro).

    To gauge power, we always see the power to weight ratio…measured in BHP per TONNE. So based on the value of weight that nutzeywagen posted ( i am not implying this is the weight of the MPV, just taking it as an example)…for 125Hp and weight of 1380kg, we will get a power to weight ratio of 90.6 BHP per TONNE which is…….(no comment rite now since the weight is not told by me)….so if u guys wanna compare the power to weight ratio with other MPV's, get their weight and max hp and use this formula:-

    note :1 tonne = 1000kg

    weight(kg)/power(bhp) = 'X' kg/bhp (how many kilo's 1 hp can support) then,

    1000kg (= 1tonne) / 'X' (kg/bhp) = 'Z' bhp per tonne

    So enjoy comparing, the higher the 'Z' value, the better….

    Cheers!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • _xXx_ on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:24 am

    My 'Lampara' name WAS rejected too. Why??? Nice name isn't it?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • BlackJKX on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:25 am

    Why delayed?

    Vendor delivery or part/design failed?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • NutzeyWagen (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:25 am

    Seems a lot bash the Exora's 1.6CPS as being under-powered, but askd to do own calculation, they lost their maths skill.

    The best solution is to test-drive it 1st before praising/bashing it. Check out the exterior/interior, gadgets n what haves, then take it for a drive (bring the family along). Feel how it goes, then place your order……..uuhhh…wait…. maybe some will still want to bash. If so, what can I say/do, your money is in your hands.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • tube_boy on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:32 am

    bersyukurlah dgn ape yg ada

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • mavericksam on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:32 am

    wiraperkasa said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 5:06 pm

    5 star for crash safety rating….

    just kiding:p

    _________________________________________________________________________

    yes! testing was done at the backyard by crashing into some stacked milo tins that is… lol!!!

    just kidding too… :p

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • kimi13 on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:34 am

    wah…very nice explaination from sifu..very informative!

    anyway sifu..can you comfirm about the price?? is it true price range RM70K-RM75? THANKZ

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • stroller on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:36 am

    i'm agree with u kelerbort,

    it been so sudden when every m'sian hv a degree in engineering… designing… when p1 produce new model… they hv also a degree in commenting and bashing 1st class honor in this field… all the technical aspect they hv been figure it out though not make sense at all…

    si-fu, a cr to ur team… congratulate again to Norsholihan Bt Abdul Eanich for the name…

    though this mpv been bashed here and there, at PT room here by bashers who hv degree in ingineering, designing commenting and bashing with honour, it will b move around u guys later… so, the choice is ur's…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • mavericksam on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:37 am

    si-fu said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 5:21 pm

    Ok guys, some of u might be telling, whats the point of having 150Nm’s of torque and 125Hp but only achieve that at 4800rpm an 6500rpm for the latter…..okey lets talk about the normal driving range engine speed….most of us drive at about 2000 to 3500 rpm….at this rpm, the power and torque that u get from the 1.6CPS is about:

    Power : 28KW to 52KW (37.5HP to 69.7HP)

    Torque :132Nm to 142Nm (88% to 95% of the max torque produced)

    _________________________________________________________________________

    That is very good (the torque that is)… can't wait to see it first hand… :)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • memememe on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:39 am

    Ya lorrr..for a moment there i also got angry with proton, but then again, "based on" and "consist of" really r 2 different phrase.So, I guess, exora pun exora la… (as long as no rules r broken).

    Sure, I can accept that reason. But, still, I tot Proton should get away from the typical 'a' end (like pantun pulak) and come out with a fresh name.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:40 am

    Talk about the crash rating. I still remember STUPID Proton with its so-called 3-Star Savvy. WTH with STUPID Proton, the Star rating is not even from Euro NCAP, its actually internal Star rating that 'supposedly' the same as Euro NCAP. What a STUPID Proton!!!

    As for those who don't agree with me, please explain your fact regarding this issue.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Madimat on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:41 am

    I sent Proton (1) Erama (2) Myrea (3) Klanna. Too bad didn't even make into the top 3 tssk tsskk. Anyway congratulations to the Winner Cik errr…. Congratulations !

    Well, an event like this we will see a lots of bashers – from a Since-Born-a-Proton-Basher type to those who are disappointed because the their submitted names not chosen. As usual then talks go to corruptions / power abuse / high tax / kualiti buruk / bla bla bla zzzzzzzz .. haiyaah.., dont need to bash or to think so hard laah,.. – just stay away from Proton, dont buy Proton laa, then problem solved. Just my RM0.02 on that one.

    BTW Exora is kinda nice name,.. I started to like it ha ha.

    Si-Fu / NutzeyWagen, some questions here : does the MPV having any kind of roof railing and sunroof pre-installed to all variants..? If have, that will rock, man…! damn cool cool cool …

    .peace!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • wiraperkasa on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:43 am

    148 comments so far in few hours…really, malaysian love this car :p

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • kimi13 on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:44 am

    one more think..why there no white color for this new "baby"? the one with white color awesome.

    Still blur about the actual interior of this new "baby". any news guy??

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • kimi13 on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:47 am

    yalo i agree with Madimat…nice name Proton EXORA CPS 1.6

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:47 am

    @ Si-Fu: "many new innovations has gone into this ‘baby’!"

    Innovations? You must be joking.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • NutzeyWagen (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:54 am

    Some love to love it, some love to bash it. Either way, there is love!

    Love to all Msians!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • elfielism on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:56 am

    support PROTON EXORA..malaysian will be surprised for the feature and new technology for dis PROTON EXORA..features of dis car have a cues from BMW..ehehe..price also reasonable..im proud to be malaysia..

    maybe some bashers will book it asap and x sabar nak dapat kereta and keep calling salesperson..ahaha..

    GEWD JOB PROTON..DARING TO BE DARE

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Littlefire on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:57 am

    NutzeyWagen since you are math genius, can ask 150nm torque can move a 1785kg MPV smoothly (full house estimate)? Please show your calculation.

    Besides that consider the wind drag (big size) also.

    I think the best buy for this MPV is 5/6-speed manual, if only Auto 4-speed i a bit skeptical as even 1.8L Wish (4-speed auto) is consider under power for me full house .. CVT maybe will consider due to better torque distribution.

    "The original weight maybe around 1300-1400kg but you must know bigger space inside can fill in more stuff so think 1 ppl around 65kg * 7 (Max) = 455kg + luggage/shopping stuff (7 ppl stuff) add plus also around 30kg = 485+1300kg = 1785kg. So 1.6L CPS engine (125hp/150nm) can move 1785kg MPV smoothly? This is just opinion, but for those ppl with kids or less stuff the weight will be less.."

    Surprise me with 1.6L Turbo / Supercharge Campro engine and i will snatch it. So i think is better those new MPV buyers to wait for Perodua MPV out first before deciding..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:58 am

    I have no problem with Kereta Nasional, in fact I support it (to some extend). I just bash where bash is due

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • elfielism on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:00 am

    PROTON PRESTIGEO…nampak mcm berprestij kan kan..

    -satria neo cps 60k

    -proton exora 75

    beza sikit jer for tiny car and bigger mpv..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:03 am

    @ Littlefire

    Smoothly? Not a chance. If they change the transmission ratio, it will have high RPM issue in highway cruising. If they solved this by put a tall top gear, power delivery in highspeed overtaking will suffer (especially the 4-Speed). For this engine, there is no way to get the best of both world.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Prem3377 on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:08 am

    mct said,
    February 18, 2009 @ 1:41 am

    mct said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 1:01 am

    i can provide the fc test by taiwan gov
    the gen2 score average 13.2km/L city 11.4km/L highway 16.4km/L
    nissan sylphy 2.0 cvt average 15km/L city 13.2km/L highway 18.0km/L
    toyota altis 2.0 average 14km/L city 12.4km/L highway
    toyota camry 2.0 average 12.3km/l city 10.4km/L highway 15.8km/L
    honda civic 2.0 average 14.4km/L city 12.2km/L highway 18.3km/L
    honda accord 2.0 average 12.4km/L city 8.9km/L highway 16.2km/L
    nissan teana 2.0 average 10.6km/L city 7.7km/L highway 13.6km/L

    prem3377 do you have anything to say now ??
    ___________________________________________________________________________

    where do you get this facts??i want to know!!any website or links???

    and how do you know its true??why do they compare a 2.0 car with a Gen2??it doesnt make sense at all…

    this figures can be edited..and why gen2 a single 1.6 car in the test??

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • autojohndoe on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:13 am

    why do one want hi rpm on the highway?

    if manual 5th gear with ratio 0.9 and the final drive 4.4… it should be ok on hi way….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • alansmithz (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:14 am

    Proton Exora….sound a bit vulgar to me. I can imagine some poor people mispronounce it like….Protong xxxhole lah. It's going to be fun^^

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:20 am

    @autojohndoe

    Have you read what i say about a tall top gear?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • normal_user on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:22 am

    si-fu said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 5:21 pm

    Ok guys, some of u might be telling, whats the point of having 150Nm’s of torque and 125Hp but only achieve that at 4800rpm an 6500rpm for the latter…..okey lets talk about the normal driving range engine speed….most of us drive at about 2000 to 3500 rpm….at this rpm, the power and torque that u get from the 1.6CPS is about:

    Power : 28KW to 52KW (37.5HP to 69.7HP)
    Torque :132Nm to 142Nm (88% to 95% of the max torque produced)

    ===============

    Master Si-Fu, you sure its 132Nm of Torque from 2000rpm?
    I think 132Nm of torque is not sufficient to accelerate the 1700kg weight (assume 7 ppl inside MPV) smoothly around stop-and-go traffic.

    I believe if proton can squeeze the torque from the campro to achieve 160Nm+ of torque from 2000rpm, that would be great! I'm sure there is a way to increase it, just like what the R&D did with the 135HP Satria Neo R3 'Non-CPS'.

    Paul Tan says: The Neo R3's power outputs, I suspect at that level it no longer meets many emissions standards, not to mention loudness and comfort standards, at least that was my experience with the car.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Akazamabamaboo on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:26 am

    Nice… =D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:31 am

    @normal_user

    Turbo charger can increase it (torque) further and flattened the curve and make it wider. until then, people will have to suffer with this 1.6 (STUPID) CamPro (Low Tech) CPS.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Yah omg :| Contest entry submissions must be in either Bahasa Malaysia or English only and must:-

    – not consist of any form of the animal kingdom, or vegetation;

    my my -.- hahaha. anyways congrats. too bad my name didnt get picked.

    Proton Alpha. Above the Rest. HAHAHA -.- why its tagline is in malay? i thought proton wants to make their brand INTERNATIONAL? hmm…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • ManNero (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:34 am

    I googled the following new car prices for the sake of comparison. As a note, they are all auto, higher end version, OTR price with insurance.

    Toyota Avanza 1.5S (A) RM 77,100.00

    Toyota Rush 1.5G (A) RM 88,888.00

    Toyota Rush 1.5S (A) RM 94,888.00

    Nissan G Livina 1.6L (A) RM 88,600.00

    Suzuki APV 1.6GLX (A) CBU RM 76,872.60

    Kia Citra II Rondo EXS (A) RM 88,888.00

    Proton Exora 1.6 (A) RM 74,500.00 *

    * This is based on the highest price from the range of RM 70,400 to RM 74,500. Not sure whether this is inclusive of insurance.

    So guys, do your own maths…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Adunadun on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:36 am

    their are just a car.

    – if u have money ,go and buy it.

    -if u dont have money , come to paultan.org….

    yeah i dont have money…that is why i am here

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:37 am

    @ManNero

    I thought Toyota Rush is in the different category. :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Fridz (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:38 am

    Alahai,the bashers hv no point anymore to bash.even by the Exora name also they can bash..

    OK to all bashers,you can bash all proton makes in constructive spirit.if you guys just complain to condemn it,then your child next 20yrs will ask "Did our Malaysian hv any technology of making a Car?then you can answer,"Oh,we Malaysian just buy it from Japan" or "We just PASANG JE KAT RAWANG"…

    (Susahnya nak jadi Developed Country)…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • nadzri m yusof on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:41 am

    70k mline ,75k hline, no base line. bigger n better then livina n avanza . Both come wt 2 airbag. The best part aircond vent at 2nd n 3rd row + 10 cup bottle holder. Proton aim to conquor 50% mpv market share n intends to sale 2550 units per month to repositioned 1st for 09 financial year.

    cheers….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:42 am

    @Fridz: "Susahnya nak jadi Developed Country"

    Many developed country do not have National Auto Company and they are still WAY better then us.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • ManNero (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:42 am

    MyBoy,

    I thought I should include the Rush in there since some people buy car for the number of people they can fit in… since Toyota Rush is a 7 seater..

    cheers

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:45 am

    @ManNero

    Understand. Thanks bro.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • wiraperkasa on Feb 18, 2009 at 2:51 am

    perodua nautica is the 5 seater of toyota rush…which eventually more expensive than rush despite being a 5 seater

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • arsenal on Feb 18, 2009 at 3:00 am

    alah…u all always nk blame proton…..at least exora is sounds good la….give proton a chance to produce our car ouhhh……soal harga plak…nak sama kn avanza….engine that they use only 1.3 n 1.5 only…but exora use 1.6 CPS DOHC…..enough power la…kalau avanza 1.3 boleh jalan atas jalan x kn exora 1.6 x boleh plak…..

    btw…..im always supporting our local car…peduli apa la org nk kata kat proton….just keep it up n moving foward…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • ManNero (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 3:03 am

    wiraperkasa,

    toyota rush is made in indonesia and a 2WD vehicle. perodua nautica is fully imported(CBU) from japan and rebadged as a perodua model. it also has full time AWD, part of the reason why its more expensive than toyota rush… different marketing strategy by toyota/perodua i guess.. :)

    and why should we be talking about toyota/perodua here?? :) cheers

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Blog Tactic on Feb 18, 2009 at 3:09 am

    Ixora is a flower/vegetation.

    Exora is a generic name.

    Exora name sound better than besi waja or gen or juara ko.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • autojohndoe on Feb 18, 2009 at 3:12 am

    the auto industry is started with the intention to boost the development of other industry, plastic, metal, electronic… but, it seems to be failed by our own malaysian track of mind which always said… the foreigner is better than us and can never beat them…

    so, this group of malaysian say, let just follow and be a user… be just only manufacturer (without much RnD, hoping other country to invent and we use it), be a buyer…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • seat-belt on Feb 18, 2009 at 3:18 am

    wahhh….the name launching is just happened just for a few hours ago, there is 193++ comments already….walau eh…

    btw, exora….quite nice name…i think it is acceptable for any country in the world…not like the 'waja' name where the europe ppl think the name is quite funny…then, P1 need to give out some more money to change the name tag…

    however, congrats Proton! i hope that Exora will be the catalyst for proton's next achievement!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • chap_de_x on Feb 18, 2009 at 3:20 am

    hahahaha so funny crying like baby when lose a competition…hahaha so lame…i advise u go to karpal singh and ask him to file a sue to proton coz u so confidently said u hv been cheated right…i want to see u get sue back…do you think proton choose this name without consider the effect and consequences. as per normal this day some narrow minded person will relate it to cronism, racial statement and so on..plzz stop bullshitting… dont show you third world mind here…

    as for the 450mil investment on this project is consider normal investment of any new product development….in making a new vehicle from scratch u need to have preliminary study, design, CAD data, CAE data, jig, dies , manufrg line, Testing and the list goes on…its not like go to brothers shop..pick wut u want pay and then assemble it.if u can assemble it to become a car la..to make a new component with small quantity will cost u millions…later on when the component are produce in mass quantity the cost will eventually go down…that why the development cost are millions…please read more before give baseless comment…

    as for the power u afraid will not cope with the weight plzz wait for this mpv spec to come out when its launch…then we do some comparison with some other marque in term of power weight ratio ok…as for now i assure you that the power is enough to move this mpv

    in term are quality…when its launch see it for yourself then judge…its quite annoying keep mention about gen2 waja quality…why not say savvy saga neo n persona…is it still the same or you already know its already improve but as always just want to find point to bash

    chiou

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • yahoo on Feb 18, 2009 at 3:22 am

    Why all those 3 winners are malays?Others cant give a proper name mei

    ?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • NutzeyWagen (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 3:28 am

    Blah..blah..blah…bash…bash…bash…! Hvn't even seen/feel/test yet, you guys go shooting from your hips! Hold on lah! There are in fact so much innovations in the Exora that most laymen don't even bother to know. For those who wants to know, don't look into interior. Look at the exterior. The platform, chassis, suspension n things like that. Should hv seen the crash-test photos/videos (done in Spain). It protects the passengers. Passive/active safety standards are…..wah lau eh……mo tak teng! There are so much more but my hands are tied, my lips are sealed. I gave my word.

    P/S: Pls don't ask me to show photos/videos. I can't.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Aniki on Feb 18, 2009 at 3:29 am

    exora means own people take prize again… those winners are from insider n js come out show face to receive the prize but end up ntg cos tats js another way of promotion for money debt company proton…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • autojohndoe on Feb 18, 2009 at 3:41 am

    NutzeyWagen said,

    *******

    the best is, one of the basher said that P2 mpv is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than this Exora… even not any malaysian have seen it is tested on the road…. also can predict the sales… haha….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • unamed on Feb 18, 2009 at 3:49 am

    chap_de_x siad:

    "as for now i assure you that the power is enough to move this mpv"

    Only the car meh? how bout full loaded as LittleFire said?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Tengokaje.. on Feb 18, 2009 at 3:54 am

    NutzeyWagen aka Azlano.. just wondering.

    Is there any others features that EXORA will offer to the their potential customer?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 3:55 am

    @unamed

    Sure merangkak one.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 3:57 am

    @NutzeyWagen: "There are in fact so much innovations in the Exora that most laymen don’t even bother to know."

    Innovations? You must be joking.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • nabill on Feb 18, 2009 at 3:58 am

    another way to to improve performance is to shortened the gear ratios , it wil affects top speed bt thats irrelevant in an mpv….another important thing is the engine got to be refined without the familiar boom sound of the campro….

    believe me , if avanza 1.3cc is on the road , no one has the right to question a 1.6cc cps ! if avanza 1.3 is considered an mpv by god knows wat standards , thn this Exora will have no problems . .

    another ting is the Lavina is a 1.6cc engine as well , and not many ppl complaining…..as long as the refinemnet of the motor is there its good enough , unless those nutjobs who want to test see if the car can hit 200km/hr or not…at the end of the day , this is targeted at FAMILIES . not young bachelors or college students…or first time car buyers…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 4:06 am

    @nabill

    Agree with you, top speed is not so critical for MPV but can you imagine cruising at highway speed at 4K+ RPM? As i said earlier, they can put a taller top gear to solve high RPM at highway speed but it will upset the power delivery.

    With engine this small (Unless its turbo charged), user will suffer with a lot of compromise.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • whiteeye on Feb 18, 2009 at 4:07 am

    Too expensive, i thought at the 1st time it just only 60k to 70k, i rather by other's than this cheap interior, moreover Toyota don't even cost this much, 80k for this local MPV, forget it.

    Guy's it should be funny, y Malaysia produce expensive price for own Malaysian buyer's, not just this MPV but all Proton car's as well>

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • CFA28 on Feb 18, 2009 at 4:13 am

    Avanza 1.3 but its real wheel drive. If its FWD, I don't think it can go fast iwhen with 7 ppl aboard. Some ppl already say Vios with 5 ppl also need to push more, what more with 7 ppl but hey, RWD makes lots of difference.

    Try pushing and pulling your sofa and you get what I mean.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • whiteeye on Feb 18, 2009 at 4:14 am

    I will look forward to Perodua MPV since the launching will be end of the year just wait lol, test drive this mpv see how it feel 1st, may be happy n may be dissapointed…………………….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Anti Stupidity on Feb 18, 2009 at 4:23 am

    Let's see what Datuk Syed Zainal can really achieve.

    This is the first all-new car from Proton under his management.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • tak cantik……….depan cantik, belakang hampeh…..besala malaysia cipta semua macam tu….buat tu biar puas hati harga mahal pun tak kesah…tapi cantik….ini tengok kat disbort dia..manyak….kosong woo….meter tak habis2 ala saga dan gen 2..malas aku nak oder, korang nak beli pikir dulu la….baik aku ambik mazda 5 lagi cantik….tapi aku tengok rakyat begitu taksub nak tengok dan membeli….besala…nafsu tak pernah cukup apa yang ada, tak caya korang tengokla…tak lama lagi muncul pulak exora 2…….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Anti Stupidity on Feb 18, 2009 at 4:42 am

    Sorry for bashing,

    but the Avanza 1.3 is totally crap.

    Bad chassis, bad stability, ride&handling is more like a small lorry, ugly silly face at the front.

    Bad engine, the auto gearbox have to constantly rev the engine over 4K rpm to get up to proper speed.

    I sat in one for a trip before,

    I mentioned the revs gone so high, thought the driver was gunning it,

    but he said he wasn't.

    This is how the car actually drives.

    My god.

    I reserve my comment for the 1.5 VVT-i version.

    Didn't have a chance to be driven in one them.

    Rear-wheel drive doesn't really have any advantage over front-wheel drive

    in terms of acceleration or pulling power for this type of car.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • jinggo cps on Feb 18, 2009 at 4:44 am

    Congratulation to P1 with this new Proton Exora..next time no need to do the naming contest like this bcz make many malaysian waste their time thinking.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • 7213209 (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 5:08 am

    Hoho..tak sabar nak test drive.

    Dah lama being quite sceptical about proton.

    But after neo and exora rasa macam nak 'buka pintu' pada proton.

    Tapi eko'nomoney' sekarang tak ngam le.

    Cukup le apa yg ada nampaknya..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Fretsurfer on Feb 18, 2009 at 5:11 am

    Not underpowered, especially in KL.

    I don't understand about it being underpowered. 1.6 is nice enough for cruising. And has enough torque to drive around in KL. If one needs an overpowered car, why look at the Exora in the first place?

    It's an MPV. You put your family in there. You put your IKEA stuff in there. You put your pots of Beriani that you want to sell at the market in there. If you want something that's powerful, at 80k, you can easily get a 5 year old Jap-Boi racer car with some leftover cash to do the repairs.

    And who cares if it's a flower name or not. My 6 submissions lost. I'm not bitter. I think it's a nice name. Exora.

    Kinda like a stripper name. ;-)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • GUYS, 2 DAY IS A VERY SAD DAY FOR ME AS MY SUDMISSION DIDNT WIN ANYTHING. UPSET…REALLY UPSET.IS GONE..IT'S REALLY GONE.WANNA KNOW WHAT'S MY SUDMISSION? CHK THIS OUT:-

    1) PROTON KANGKONG – GOT LOCAL VEGI N OUR NATIONAL CAR NAME.

    2) PROTON KALANG KABUT – 2-3 MTHS AFTER LAUNCH, U WILL C A LOT'S

    OF COMPLAIN DUE TO RUSH RUSH JOB, DEFECTS.

    3) PROTON NASI LEMAK – NATIONAL FAV FOOD

    4) PROTON NAJISLAH ( PM + TPM = NAJISLAH)

    5) ETC……

    SAD..SADDDDDDDDD ARGH)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ANYWAY, CONGRATULATION WINNERS.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • CFA28

    Avanza 1.3 but its real wheel drive. If its FWD, I don’t think it can go fast iwhen with 7 ppl aboard. Some ppl already say Vios with 5 ppl also need to push more, what more with 7 ppl but hey, RWD makes lots of difference.

    Try pushing and pulling your sofa and you get what I mean.

    Are u sure avanza rear wheel drive?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • nabill on Feb 18, 2009 at 5:46 am

    so wat it if its rear wheel drive…? that has no difference in power watsoever…some make it rear wheel drive to balance out the wieght of the car n if its FWD it becomes front heavy….bt if its engineered properly , a FWD mpv is jus as good…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Firdaus on Feb 18, 2009 at 5:57 am

    kenapa nama tumbuhan? dalam syarat tak boleh….

    saya sertakan petikan syarat>

    3.Penyertaan hendaklah sama ada dalam bahasa Malaysia atau bahasa Inggeris dan mestilah:-

    – Tidak diambil daripada mana-mana nama binatang atau tumbuh-tumbuhan;

    – Tidak mengandungi bahasa kasar atau kesat atau membawa konotasi tidak baik, seperti "Bodoh";

    – Boleh diterima secara komersial, contohnya "Proton Waja";

    – Mudah disebut, contohnya, "Proton Waja";

    – Mudah difahami dan dikenali oleh rakyat Malaysia;

    – Tidak digunakan oleh mana-mana Pembuat Peralatan Tulen dalam bidang Pengangkutan (OEM), sama ada tempatan atau luar negara, pada tarikh 08/09/2008;

    – Mempunyai maksimum tiga [3] suku kata sahaja. Contohnya, "Proton Persona". Nama-nama yang dihantar yang melebihi tiga [3] suku kata akan ditolak secara automatik. Setiap peserta boleh menghantar lebih daripada satu [1] penyertaan melalui laman web atau SMS, TETAPI setiap pemenang hanya layak menerima satu hadiah sahaja

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • chap_de_x on Feb 18, 2009 at 5:58 am

    fwd or rwd is depends on function and purpose of the vehicle. rwd will add more weight because of the shafts to the rear…lets say 50 to 100 kilos..that a lot

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • kimi_ on Feb 18, 2009 at 5:58 am

    Hi Paul,start from today,the word "Leave a comment" should change to "Basher column" or "shooting site"……Hehe:)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • tansri on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:00 am

    this is e real bull shit..

    they made the rules, but they themselves cannot follow..

    conclusion>> proton staff is lack of focus, i think if they have some plans or vision also they will not follow..haha

    * when your are not the winner, this is what u said..hahahaha…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • mitlanevo (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:08 am

    rwd = better handling?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Xx- Ferrari -xX (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:08 am

    The name is way better than any other names given to previous proton model…. the previous names for proton models sounds real low status… This new english kinda name is way better….. WoW guyz, not even 24 hours yet but the comments have reached mere 230 plus….. hahahaha….. I gotta shock seein this after gettin' back from work….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Julian-Lee on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:12 am

    BMW X6 is a better buy

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • ukomido on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:20 am

    hohohoho very da girlish….but of coz la…da winner is women wat…rite??

    juz 1 comment…..da name sound alike da old tak laku one proton punya mpv previous this….PROTON EXORA = PROTON JUARA…..jgn kena badi juara udah ler…kang tak laku lagi….but nice work…juz price tu jgn a lebey2 bro

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • saiful azman on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:20 am

    Cis….apara proton, sendiri buat rules tapi sindiri juga tarak ikut. Macam itu krajaan BN @ UMNO..tak boleh percaya langsung…MUNAFIK…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • not_ah_beng on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:24 am

    @Fridz

    "OK to all bashers,you can bash all proton makes in constructive spirit.if you guys just complain to condemn it,then your child next 20yrs will ask “Did our Malaysian hv any technology of making a Car?then you can answer,”Oh,we Malaysian just buy it from Japan” or “We just PASANG JE KAT RAWANG”…"

    __________________________________________________________________

    Oh really?

    What if your child next 20yrs still ask you, "Why our Msian national car still sucks so much compare to Toyota or Honda?" then you can answer, "Cos we give them so much protection and bailouts they never made any initiative to make any better car!"

    LOL.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:29 am

    @not_ah_beng

    Nicely put. :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • the price i get from the sales person is 72k to 76k

    the price is for auto and no spec is mention

    avanza can run is because the gear ratio

    and which ever ppl who drive before a manual avanza ,you will notice that the car rev up very quick and no nit to press hard for higher rpm . when they do this type of arrangement to gear ratio, what you get is the car can moved around nicely but on the highway you will suffer from the high rpm . avanza 1.3 is doing 4k rpm for 11xkm/h. this made the car consumed a lot petrol in highway.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • brutal_driverz on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:44 am

    next time,proton must add one more condition in the naming contest:

    -the name suggested must derived from Malay words.

    remember,keagungan sesuatu bahasa bukan sebab bahasa itu yang hebat tetapi bergantung pada cara bagaimana bangsa yang menuturkan bahasa tersebut membuatnya menjadi hebat.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • aenz81 on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:55 am

    Aiman Tak Kisah said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 2:57 pm

    NutzeyWagen said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 2:42 pm

    PROTON EXORA : M-line RM70,400.00 H-line RM74,500.00……Comes with bluetooth/hands-free radio (yes you can plug your hp into the radio)..with caller ID. 8.5? TFT LCD DVD player @ the 2nd row…for viewing pleasure. Cabin size similar to Grandis. In-dash Gate-type gear lever n self-illuminating meter cluster. Hv separate rear aircond blower. Applies to both variants. The Exora is also packed wiyh unbelievable features….quality is GREAT! Before any of you bash me, go check it out 1st hand. It now uses a body-control-module (BCM) which is basically a printed circuit-board that reduces electrical components (eg. relays) n wirings. Therefore it reduces vendors too. The BCM is manufactured in Seberang Prai n functions like the i-Drive found in BMWs/Mercs. There are so much new features in the Exora that you’ll be SURPRISED! At least I was. You simply hv to check it out yourself.

    The powertrain. Even I was skeptical at first, but now I say, TRY IT OUT FIRST, before you bash (I made that mistake). I really do hope that this is THE revival of P1.

    P/S: Forget abt the competitors. Get this.

    ——————————————————

    Wow… i hope it is true… any picture to support your statement?

    ————————————————————

    Hello mate, this MPV specs still a secret dont u remember? my protonian friend's tell me the same thing as what NutzeyWagen had revealed here…

    r u named my kitten as "zena" NutzeyWagen? hm… i think i want a "kesatria" name… i choose "xena" the warrior princess… hahaha… :)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • at not ah beng

    Oh really?

    "What if your child next 20yrs still ask you, “Why our Msian national car still sucks so much compare to Toyota or Honda?” then you can answer, “Cos we give them so much protection and bailouts they never made any initiative to make any better car!”

    LOL"

    OR

    " what if ur child in next 20years ask you, " Why Msian national car is dead"

    and then u can asnwer, " it's because our MENTALITY son.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • si-fu (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:58 am

    These bashers really tak puas hati….kutuk jer keje dia….kalau pandai sgt buat lah MPV sendiri n tunjuk la…..

    MyBoy….ni nampak sgt penyokong perodua….dan agak2 pakai myvi…..what with the 'innovations?' thingy? U got problem with innovations? Or u think we r not capable of innovations? wait till u see the MPV, then u;ll know what INNOVATIONS are they…..

    regarding crash, obviously we didn't do Euro NCAP test (only waja went through EURO NCAP)….but we did it Spain…most Proton Cars Crash Test is done there….another thing when we talk about crash, we dont simply take the car and crash it sesuka hati….there is regulations for everything…same goes to crash….if it is said the vehicle has a crash standard EQUIVALENT to Euro NCAP 3 star, means the vehicle passed the crash test up the standard of the EURO NCAP 3 star….doesn't mean u have to ask EURO NCAP to do it, it can be done by other parties as long the regulations is followed and adhered…..regulations cant be changed, it is standard…..countries in the middle east and so on, require vehicles sold there to have certain MINIMUM crash standard, and they use the European Crash std…..so if our cars tak pass, obviously we cant sell our cars there…..

    Regarding, engine power and torque under full load…..haihhh….Malaysians….Proton is NOT STUPID LA….u think over 400++(maybe more) Enginneers and consultants didn't think about this? Common guys be professional, and realistic in giving comments and opinions! OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE DONE THIS TEST- WITH FULL LOAD AND LUGGAGE LOAD SIMULATION! IT PASSED THE GENTING HILL CLIMBING WITH FLYING COLOURS! So what else do you guys want? TRY IT URSELF WHEN EXORA IS LAUNCHED!!!!!…..If it the engine was not gud enuf, obviously, we the 400++ Engineers and consultants would have find a solution….u all think we all running 'kedai goreng pisang' ka? to do half past six job? Malaysian's and their assumptions they come up with….they always think they have figured out and know everything….Btw, just for comparison……NISSAN LIVINA 1.6….HAS 150NM(same with CPS) TORQUE AND 120 HP….no turbocharger….no force induction….WHY NOBODY COMPLAIN??? WHY???? WHY DOWAN TO BASH THE LIVINA? CAUSE ITS JAPENESE?

    Cheers!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • aenz81 on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:04 am

    Wisdom said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 5:01 pm

    Sifu may i know the crash safety rating for this Exora?

    —————————————————————

    i hope it's 5 stars..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:07 am

    @si-fu

    I'm Perodua supporter? No I'm not. In fact I did bashed their latest offering: Viva.

    So whos kidding who here?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • sagaKNIGHT on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:12 am

    pasal nama pun nak gaduh2 ke???

    dah trademark proton hujungnya vokal a

    automaker lain punya trademark taknak pulak

    bash!

    adat pertandingan,ada menang kalah

    kereta pun blom klua lagi dah tau underpowerla

    tin milo susula,enjin 1.6 ajela…wth

    tu gran livina 1.6 senyap je bisu je

    takde sape pertikaikan????

    avanza tu sume cc dia bape??

    1.3 1.5 je…

    takde pulak nak bash bagai nak gila…

    dah ada forummer sini give fact

    regarding mpv ni,please readlah

    please dont be bodoh sombongla

    guys!…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:17 am

    @si-fu

    As for crash test. I would say, stop kidding yourself! Even BMW sometimes got it wrong (during their internal test meant for Euro NCAP) and get lower score in actual Euro NCAP test and have to request for a re-test after some improvements.

    Now you telling all the user in malaysia that Savvy 3-Star INTERNAL crash test is exactly the same as actual Euro NCAP 3-Star. Grow up man! Don't make yourself look stupid just to cover up Proton incompetency.

    I give credit where credit is due. Its the same way when I bash.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • sifu, no need to be so angry lah

    everybody have their on defination regarding got power or not

    all thing will be clear after exora can be test drive.

    maybe no ones in this post complain about the power of livina

    but some owner say the 1.6auto will be a little underpower if 7ppl seated.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:26 am

    @si-fu

    To the 400+ engineers and consultants. I'm not suggesting that you guys don't know the issue. Its just you are limited to your capability, competency, Knowledge and above all, budget.

    We do not intent put the blame directly on you guys. Instead we put it on the management and the company as a whole. You know what? Your management can't even terminate vendors with many, many BAD record (don't believe me? Ask Uncle Chips Yap or you can just read his posting in his forum) let alone perform a bigger task.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • brutal_driverz on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:27 am

    sifu,aku x paham la yang kat part ni,

    NISSAN LIVINA 1.6….HAS 150NM(same with CPS) TORQUE AND 120 HP….no turbocharger….no force induction….

    maknanya livina lagi power la sbb enjin biasa dah reach 150NM.bleh terangkan?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:28 am

    @mct

    Livina 1.6 with full load is not just a little underpower. Its really, really under power.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:31 am

    @brutal_driverz

    What he trying to say is that (regardless of the power-torque graph) the 1.6 Livina generate 150 Nm of torque (same as Proton 1.6 CPS) but its generate less power than Proton's.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyviKiller on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:33 am

    Alamak,all Proton forums are becoming emotional forum, Paul please do something!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • aenz81 on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:33 am

    Bil said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 3:47 pm

    Somehow i know,

    the winner wont be other than Malay.

    Other races dun stand a chance in this type of competition.

    Ha ha

    —————————————————————

    hello mr. Bil elektrik… that because proton choose the "EXORA" name and that name was proposed by a malay's named Norsholihan Bt Abdul Eanich and it's not by you. The others malays also proposed almost the same name as IXORA, EXIRA and so on but they didn't win the competition because proton did not choose that name.. It's not about Proton's being racist mr. Bil… dont try to involed a "racist issues" and becoming a new issue in here… we had enough with other issues such as "high taxes", "coronies", "goverment", "japanese always good", and so on when we had a discussing about PROTON. Dont be a racist… and please be mature….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • sagaKNIGHT said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 11:12 pm

    pasal nama pun nak gaduh2 ke???

    dah trademark proton hujungnya vokal a

    automaker lain punya trademark taknak pulak

    bash!

    adat pertandingan,ada menang kalah

    kereta pun blom klua lagi dah tau underpowerla

    tin milo susula,enjin 1.6 ajela…wth

    tu gran livina 1.6 senyap je bisu je

    takde sape pertikaikan????

    avanza tu sume cc dia bape??

    1.3 1.5 je…

    takde pulak nak bash bagai nak gila…

    dah ada forummer sini give fact

    regarding mpv ni,please readlah

    please dont be bodoh sombongla

    guys!…

    you are the one's who bodoh lah ,

    avanza dan livina beberapa kg??

    avanza hanya 1 ton lebih , livina maximum pun 1.28ton saja (1.8)

    mpv ini 1.38ton , 100kg boleh buat berbezaan ,walaubagaimanapun kita tak tahu apa setting yang proton akan guna untuk exora, tunggu and test drive ia dulu . maybe it not as powerfull as you wish or vice versa

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Actually this name is really not bad at all… it sounds unique

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 11:28 pm

    @mct

    Livina 1.6 with full load is not just a little underpower. Its really, really under power.

    ————————————————————–

    as i said , everybody have different term for power , maybe for you is underpower and other doesn't

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • waja2000 on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:42 am

    @sifu

    "NISSAN LIVINA 1.6….HAS 150NM(same with CPS) TORQUE AND 120 HP….no turbocharger….no force induction….WHY NOBODY COMPLAIN??? WHY???? WHY DOWAN TO BASH THE LIVINA? CAUSE ITS JAPENESE? "

    very simple, bcos Livina managed keep fross weight below 1300kg in all version?so people trust nissan, but Exora 1380kg sure give people already in mind set, this car sure will have high fuel consumption, unless Exora can keep weight below 1300KG. just like in Gen2 cps, a official test by taiwan energy deptment, Gen2/persona fuel consumption is no different with 2.0L car. event some 2.0L more save petrol than persona

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • translater on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:44 am

    bertenang said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 2:38 pm

    “not consist of any form of the animal kingdom, or vegetation;”

    “consist of” and “based on” are two different things, though not very far apart in this case.

    EXORA is based on, but not consist of a floral name. So i don’t see any rules being broken here.

    Just my two cents.

    ————–

    you got it right…. that is the case…

    ppl so easily confused by some words…. “consist of” and “based on” are two different things…

    I believe some ppl realise it , it just that their judgement is clouded by their anguish cuz they did not win the competition… =p

    ————

    Try again your reasoning using the Malay translation. BTW, rules are for the stupid obedience but guidance of wise.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • aenz81 on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:46 am

    Proton Exora: the MPV Proton will launch! Proton Exora: Points of malaysians argument

    haiya… dont gaduh2 ma… kita org malaysia, duduk kat malaysia, inilah yg kita kena hadapi… kalo xnak hadapi, pi dok kat negara lain… haiya…

    Haiz… :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:47 am

    @waja2000

    Nicely put.

    @si-fu

    Eat that. :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Wisdom (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:50 am

    Oh really?

    What if your child next 20yrs still ask you, “Why our Msian national car still sucks so much compare to Toyota or Honda?” then you can answer, “Cos we give them so much protection and bailouts they never made any initiative to make any better car!”

    LOL.

    -ah_beng

    ———————————————————–

    What if your child next 20yrs ask you, "Why does our economy have to go down everytime Japan economy go bad or Yen appreciate?"

    You can answer "Thats because i'm slaving myself to support their product. I luv lickin' their cars. Of course their car was better because its more expensive. Nevermind we eat tapioca or instant noodle for the time being as long as we can own Japanese car. Just hold on son"

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • aenz81 on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:52 am

    waja2000 said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 11:42 pm

    just like in Gen2 cps, a official test by taiwan energy deptment, Gen2/persona fuel consumption is no different with 2.0L car. event some 2.0L more save petrol than persona

    ————————————————————–

    waja2000, can u give a prove or atleast any articles from any websites that can support ur staement please… i'm eager to know also mah…. dont bash me, i want to logoff after this…

    haiz.. :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • kantoizzz on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:55 am

    Whoaa…nice package la…

    The front copy and paste from Mitsubishi Grandis, the side copy and paste from Toyota Wish…the back copy and paste from Honda Stream. Luckily didn't take from caldina hahah…i think this is very smart…you get the best from all jap car leaders…sure high sales…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:59 am

    @aenz81

    I'm not sure about his statement on Gen2/Persona But I can guarantee you that his statement about Livina is 100% correct.

    Livina 1.6 MT: 1220KG

    Livina 1.6 AT: 1245KG

    Livina 1.8 AT: 1280KG (This is 1.8 Auto)

    Don't believe me? See it for yourself.

    http://www.nissan.com.my/vehicles/GrandLivina/M_G…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • aenz81 on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:04 am

    Wisdom said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 11:50 pm

    Oh really?

    What if your child next 20yrs still ask you, “Why our Msian national car still sucks so much compare to Toyota or Honda?” then you can answer, “Cos we give them so much protection and bailouts they never made any initiative to make any better car!”

    LOL.

    -ah_beng

    ———————————————————–

    What if your child next 20yrs ask you, “Why does our economy have to go down everytime Japan economy go bad or Yen appreciate?”

    You can answer “Thats because i’m slaving myself to support their product. I luv lickin’ their cars. Of course their car was better because its more expensive. Nevermind we eat tapioca or instant noodle for the time being as long as we can own Japanese car. Just hold on son”

    ——————————————————-

    lol…. just hold on son…. i dare to die just because of japanese stuffs…. lol…lol…. well said wisdom….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Bil said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 3:47 pm

    Somehow i know,

    the winner wont be other than Malay.

    Other races dun stand a chance in this type of competition.

    Ha ha

    ————————–

    oi mr. bill..

    dun talk crap in the internet..

    I dare u to say the a malay guy face 2 face

    got ball or not?

    everyone can say anything in internet

    but in real life.. they r all coward

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • dzulx on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:09 am

    Go to H*ll you F**ing racist. Be matured and responsible. This is an auto forum for god sake. When all Malay win something you said racist. When all your race win everything you say they deserve it. They work so hard etc. Who the h*ll is racist now. Malay doesnt deserve anything???

    I hate this kind of attitude. Spark disharmony in our own country with racial remark. Can you guys realize that you living in multi-racial country. If you think your race is superior go to h*ll out from here. Live at the place where your ancestor came from. It surely be uni-racial country.

    Give me prove to say its chronisme and racism in this contest. I bet the judges dont even get the chance to see contestant name. It just a name for god sake. and for Proton own product not yours. Up to them to take what ever name they like and it happens to be all Malay winners. Whats your problem??? BTW have you even graduated from school yet.. If not I forgive you…. and pity you.. for your lack of brain cells.. At least you r still growing..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Wisdom (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:14 am

    Journalist comment on Campro CPS:

    'Low-end torque availability has improved though, with both IAFM and CPS offering 139Nm at 3,000rpm to the older engine's 128Nm at the same enginespeed. All this relates to a clean power band that was once a problem with the older engine.'

    -Asian Auto

    "The Waja, at the tender age of eight, also did well to be included in both nominations list, though it’s likely to be due purely to the strength of its 125bhp Campro CPS powerplant'

    -Autocar

    'people will have to suffer with this 1.6 (STUPID) CamPro (Low Tech) CPS.'

    -Myboy

    so much with your 'I give credit where credit is due'….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • chap_de_x on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:15 am

    criticize is ok but when the fact is right..but now myboy u bash on what base…the name… badge…the spec….or the actual product…u dont even see it yet not to mention drive it yet.so you judge on what facts… so i can conclude it as baseless comment.one more thing why sifu have to refer to chips yap?? is he working at proton…or chips yap 24/7 at proton rnd…or maybe he is one of the top management team…so funny…(u praise chips yap like he know everything, so sifu must refer to him) i am not attach directly to proton as a staff but i know every single problem arise during the project its, was taken seriously in professional manner…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • tunomura on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:21 am

    Congrats to Norsholihan Bt Abdul Eanich, you have kick out my proton mpv name suggestion..Damn you!huhu..Wanna sell your winning Exora?Sell it to me.. :)

    This base my comparison (not ideal)

    Perodua MPV vs Proton Exora

    Styling/Exterior: Both simple styling without striking design (malaysian taste) such bolted-nut on fender..(Result:Fair)

    Interior: Big space, no cramped third row seat, better ICE, aircond vents at center, and not centered meter, Proton is better (Result:Proton win)

    Handling: Without thinking Exora is win as it have been tuned by Lotus. Driving Perodua mpv is just like you driving Myvi (Result:Proton win)

    Engine: Perodua with 1.5dvvt (timing chain, fuel efficient, variable valve timing, Toyota's durability and realibilty) and Proton 1.6 CPS (timing belt that always need be change, variable valve lift, not really fuel efficient)… (Result: Perodua win but they didn't learn anything, Proton can make it better in future. No improvement from perodua site in future)

    Quality: Perodua have gud track record in term of quality. Proton under former Perodua's diretor (Tuan Syed) maybe have done something (Result: Belum Try, Belum Tgk..belum tau)

    So??the money is yours, if you have duit lebih buy better mpv, Stream ka, Odyssey ka.. I'm not gonna buy this bcoz i dont even have awek yet and better buy ranggi2 car to attract aweks…Just my 2 cents, Happy motoring to all

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • nabill on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:21 am

    guys jus talk about the car la , its a fun forum , dont go too emotional n blindly shoot….doesnt make u any smarter….WER ARE TALKING ABOUT EXORA , COMPARISONS,ENGINE,POWER,SPACE,BUILD QUALITY AND SO ON , NOTHING ELSE….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • waja2000 on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:22 am

    aenz81

    results sorry in chinese? but can see the column,

    last 3 column is, City fuel consumtion, highway Fuel consumtion ,and last one is average . u can see compare G2 to Audi TT 2.0, for full report need go to download at ttaiwan energy dept. test using euro standard

    Persona IAFM
    http://news.u-car.com.tw/news-detail.asp?nid=8720
    Gen2 iafm
    http://news.u-car.com.tw/news-detail.asp?nid=8801

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:25 am

    @Wisdom

    The journalist testing the CamPro CPS with what? With car right? Not an MPV.

    I'm talking and bashing CamPro CPS when it is paired with MPV not when its on a CAR. So please don't be STUPID and take my statement out of context.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:27 am

    @chap_de_x

    I only use Chips Yap name when i talk about how incapable Proton are when handling its vendors. Thats all. Go and READ my posting AGAIN!!!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • madimat on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:27 am

    saiful azman said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 10:20 pm

    Cis….apara proton, sendiri buat rules tapi sindiri juga tarak ikut. Macam itu krajaan BN @ UMNO..tak boleh percaya langsung…MUNAFIK…

    ——————

    woi encik Saiful,

    kalaau dah pandai sangat aku rasa ko better suruh la ko punya "Boss/Idola" tu pulak buat kereta,.. entah silap silap dia pun tak tau 'mana satu depan, mana satu belakang,.. wa tak kisah beb semua kasi masuk..!'

    jilat jilat jilat jilat !

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:30 am

    @nabill

    One thing for sure. Exora is an OVERWEIGHT MPV coupled with a small 1.6 CamPro CPS engine.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • test the car n then comment

    dun make a baseless accusation

    dun talk bullshit

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:46 am

    @hax!

    I guess some people don't use their brain when talking. Exora have 100++KG more fat then its closest rival, Livina.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • nabill on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:47 am

    IDEALLY , for a heavy car , a diesel is the perfect choice…bt since its not popular here , thats the only option , i have a feeling this EXORA first batch will come with 1.6 cps for maybe abt 2years , thn when proton come out with new waja or new perdana bigger cc engine,thn that time thy have a choice putting a bigger cc engine , 1.8cc or 2L engine….

    but as sifu mentioned , unless u test drive , u cant tell the whole story , spec sheet can only tell u so much , a real life test drive is the one we should look for , id say , since thy tested out full load go genting , i tink its perfectly acceptable , wat more do u want? u gotta be relaistic , if avanza is a 1.3cc and lavina is same engine , thn proton is playing on the same playing field….i tink ur making too much of sting thats the norm in this class…btw the lavina 1.6 outsells the 1.8cc….indication customers are fine with it…

    moral of the whole ting is , if u havent seen,tested the ting yet , u cant make a firm conclusion,talking abt chris yap , this guy keeps talking abt his past encounter with former managment of proton , at every oprotunity he mentiones it at SW forum, its like MOVE ON LA , LIFE GOES ON MAN ! like someone who never forgets his ex !

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • emykert on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:48 am

    @MyBoy….

    Yela tu MyBoy…. Boy=budak2…

    budak2…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:53 am

    @nabill

    I agree with you. Let us wait for the MPV to be launched and we can even test it along with Perodua MPV (when its available), Nissan Livina and others. But on paper, Exora doesn't look that promising.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Myboy,

    How can you say… "one thing for sure…" when your claim is purely based on data/ facts on paper that is even not confirmed yet !?

    Hey… test drive first lar than only you talk!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • i can provide the fc test by taiwan gov

    the gen2 score average 13.2km/L city 11.4km/L highway 16.4km/L

    nissan sylphy 2.0 cvt average 15km/L city 13.2km/L highway 18.0km/L

    toyota altis 2.0 average 14km/L city 12.4km/L highway

    toyota camry 2.0 average 12.3km/l city 10.4km/L highway 15.8km/L

    honda civic 2.0 average 14.4km/L city 12.2km/L highway 18.3km/L

    honda accord 2.0 average 12.4km/L city 8.9km/L highway 16.2km/L

    nissan teana 2.0 average 10.6km/L city 7.7km/L highway 13.6km/L

    prove : http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/
    go find it your self by typing the car name
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… (sylphy)
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… (civic)
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… (accord)
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… (teana)
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… (gen 2)
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… (camry)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:02 am

    @ND

    Bro. I was talking about the weight lah bro.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • kimi_ on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:03 am

    Hey bro ,u all have to cool down and don't be racist.

    Coz maybe syed hamid albar is watching here and use his idiot -ISA-

    .

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • I meant the weight too lar bro. The data mentioned in this blog might be / might not be true. Its not the formal data released by proton yet!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • waja2000 on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:08 am

    @MyBoy

    i personally estimated that Exora will use 10%~15% more than current Persona fuel consumption.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Prem3377 on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:11 am

    @myboy

    i have read all your comments..and when you call someone stupid..you must be smarter than him…or you must give smart enough explaination to make the person you call stupid look stupid..but in your case..you look very stupid by calling others stupid…

    first of all how do you know the car is overweight??is the official specs out yet??i dont think so!!

    secondly..defined overweight???

    then next..what do you mean by saying this MPV is underpowered??do you know the meaning of underpowered???

    150Nm means it has 150 NEWTON x meter of pulling power…or in other words torque..its not easy to calculate the torque when its for vehicle because its based on torque curves..maximum power,maximum torque..power on wheels and etc…so by looking at those number you cannot determine if its underpower or what unless you know CERTAIN FACT or DYNO test the power on wheel and etc or knowing the GEAR ratios…without this facts its impossible for you to determine if its underpower or what…

    let me give you an example…lets say(an example not fact but just an assumption of mine so that people here might understand)

    say nissan livina has 150 Nm of torque at 6000 rpm…and do you think people will drive it at 6000 rpm all the time when its on a full load??no dont you??

    and if protons mpv has 140Nm of torque at 3000 rpm which is about 90km/h and livina has 120Nm of torque when it reaches 3000 rpm…which means proton will do better of at that speed…its based on the torque curve..its not easy as you think!!

    so dont talk like you have known everything when you know nothing yet!!let proton launch the MPV then test drive it…have a feel of the power and if its underpower then we can say it is…dont assume then call people stupid cause you will look more stupid if you do that!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:23 am

    @waja2000

    Yeah, I'm not surprise if its slightly more than that. Those Proton diehard don't even dare to contest your fact about Gen2/Persona FC.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Prem3377 on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:24 am

    @myboy

    100kg more doesnt mean its overweight….use your brain 1st myboy!!

    if you say its heavier then i agree but overweight is not a right term!!

    chips yap was talking about the engine..did he say the car made the engine better??can a car make the engine better??

    as far as i know a better engine would make a better car

    @waja2000

    dont give bullshit facts here….proton's campro cps is one of the most powerful 1.6 engine around..and FC is based on how much power it gives with certain amount of fuel…so its impossible to be worst than 2.0 engine..if its possible..then show us proof…

    if like that then proton saga which can achieve 16km per litre is the most Fuel efficient 1.3 engine is it??

    give facts la k..dont simply spoil proton's or any other companies name by creating rumours..

    i also can say some company in bangladesh has proven that cps engine is the most fuel efficient engine in its class…but if i dont have a proof..no one will believe it…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Wisdom (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:26 am

    Nissan Grand Livina 1.6 Auto

    1245kg

    HR16DE (no variable valve timing / lift)

    105hp

    150Nm at 4,400rpm

    84.34bhp per tonne

    RM88K

    Nissan Grand Livina 1.8 Auto

    1280kg

    MR18DE

    126hp

    174Nm at 4,800rpm

    98.44bhp per tonne

    RM98K

    Toyota Avanza 1.5S Auto

    1120kg

    3SZ-VE from Daihatsu

    109hp

    141Nm at 4,400rpm

    97.32bhp per tonne

    RM77.1K

    (Rush similar with additional 200kg weight + RM10k)

    Toyota Innova 2.0G auto

    1575kg

    1TR-FE

    136hp

    182Nm at 4000rpm

    86.35bhp per tonne

    RM109K

    Chery Eastar 2.4 auto

    1505kg

    4G64 (from Mitsubishi)

    127hp

    198Nm at 3000rpm

    84.39bhp per tonne

    RM82K (to date)

    Naza Citra Rondo EXS

    1590kg

    GEMA engine

    145hp

    189Nm at 4250rpm

    91.2bhp per tonne

    RM89K

    Toyota wish 1.8

    1320kg

    1ZZ-FE

    130hp

    170Nm at 4200rpm

    98.48bhp per tonne

    RM120K above at you nearest grey importer

    Honda Stream 1.8 auto

    1385kg

    R18A

    137hp

    174Nm at 4300rpm

    98.92bhp per tonne

    RM146K

    Proton Exora 1.6 auto

    1300kg (est)

    Campro 1.6 CPS

    125bhp

    150Nm at 4500rpm

    96.15bhp per tonne

    RM75K est.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Prem3377 on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:27 am

    @waja2000

    i personally estimate your level of knowledge of FC is next to nothing!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • prem3377 your assumption is not working

    livina have a earlier maximum torque compare to exora

    4400rpm vs 4800 rpm and it is minimum 100kg less , 100kg can make a different , you might think 100kg only what . but in reality it make much different , just like you belt up your seatbelt , it a small thing but it can save your life .

    i am trying to get both dyno pic

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:32 am

    @Prem3377

    I'm not saying that I'm smart. It just you look stupid if you try to defend things that can't be defended (I was talking about the INTERNAL crash test Star rating, so don't take it out of context). Let him answer my question first then I will answer yours.

    As for your comparison, why can't you just take the Livina actual torque number instead of putting it @6000 RPM? And don't forget to take its weight into consideration. :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Prem3377 on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:34 am

    MyBoy said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 1:23 am

    @waja2000

    Yeah, I’m not surprise if its slightly more than that. Those Proton diehard don’t even dare to contest your fact about Gen2/Persona FC.

    ____________________________________________________________________

    do you know why??because its not a fact and he didnt mention any figures. so why contest with someone who come up with bullshits and assumptions??

    yeah i am not surprise as well…cause both of you have been calculating FC all day long by smelling exhaust fumes…

    please la wei…talk with sense…how do you get those figures??atleast state proton persona's FC first..i wanna know..then we can assume about the MPV!!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:36 am

    Prem3377

    @waja2000

    i personally estimate your level of knowledge of FC is next to nothing!!

    ____________________________________________________________________

    @Prem3377

    Then yours suppose to be second to none? So, can you tell me that this MPV FC is at least the same at the Gen2/Persona? No you can't, right? :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • prem3377 :

    i have already post a comparison between many 2.0 vs 1.6 gen2 and the system doesn't show it !! wait till you see it

    wisdom , use some new fact please , have ppl indicated the mpv weight 1380kg , don't always write 1300kg it is impossible as waja already close to this figure

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:39 am

    @mct

    Of course he will not going to take the actual figure or else he risk making Exora looks BAD. :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Prem3377 on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:41 am

    @myboy

    you cant be driving in town with 4400 rpm…and at 4400 is where the maximum torque is delivered…you dont know how much is deliver at around 2000 rpm till 2500 where its an average for city driving…or 2700 to 3000 which is for highway cruising…

    its all in torque curve..some latest turbo engine are producing maximum torque at merely 1800rpm..and some latest engines are producing mere 20% of its torque at 1800 rpm…

    so since we dont have time or the software to calculate the actual torque at our usual driving RPM so we cant assume that nissan is better than proton or vice versa!!!so DONT ASSUME

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • mct said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 1:01 am

    i can provide the fc test by taiwan gov

    the gen2 score average 13.2km/L city 11.4km/L highway 16.4km/L

    nissan sylphy 2.0 cvt average 15km/L city 13.2km/L highway 18.0km/L

    toyota altis 2.0 average 14km/L city 12.4km/L highway

    toyota camry 2.0 average 12.3km/l city 10.4km/L highway 15.8km/L

    honda civic 2.0 average 14.4km/L city 12.2km/L highway 18.3km/L

    honda accord 2.0 average 12.4km/L city 8.9km/L highway 16.2km/L

    nissan teana 2.0 average 10.6km/L city 7.7km/L highway 13.6km/L

    prem3377 do you have anything to say now ??

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:44 am

    @mct

    I assume 1380KG is for Auto (correct me if I'm wrong)

    Livina 1.6 Auto is 1245KG

    Thats a staggering 135KG different in weight. Its like you are carrying extra 2 adult passenger. Would that make Exora look Good, prem3377? :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:46 am

    @mct

    Bro, I think that bloke already cabut lah bro. He scared to death. :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Wisdom (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:47 am

    MyBoy said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 12:30 am

    One thing for sure. Exora is an OVERWEIGHT MPV coupled with a small 1.6 CamPro CPS engine.

    ———————————————————

    Refer attached spec comparison (including price) of most available MPV on Malaysian market. See line 6 of each model, power:weight ratio. Compare with estimated figures for Exora.

    You're not blind. You're a waste. Should've been swallowed during 'that' process last time. Cant believe you're the fastest among those millions…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Prem3377 on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:48 am

    @myboy

    and about internal crash test..it doesnt mean its always worst than euro NCAP

    understand…NCAP is not the only crash test department on earth..mind that…

    and its not necessary to get an NCAP crash test rating or its written anywhere that NCAP rating is a must nor its the most accurate…

    internal crash test are usually more demanding than NCAP..and i have facts to back it up!!

    go check honda and toyotas crash test requirements..go check volvo,go check renaults…some are crashing their car at 64 km/h already…

    and since euro star rating is important to sell in europe..i think proton savvy,waja and persona is already selling in europe..so they have all passed the crash test!!!

    so think again..who is stupid!!!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:49 am

    @Prem3377

    You must have ignore my post regarding the power-torque curve. You think we don't know that? Sorry lah bro, nowadays even orang kampung know the fact. They buy your car just because they can't afford other brand (because of our tax structure) not that they think your car is good. :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Prem3377 on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:51 am

    @myboy

    and since you can answer on behalf waja2000 i have all the rights to answer for sifu or anyone else here!!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Wisdom (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:52 am

    Proton Exora 1.6 auto

    1380kg (est)

    Campro 1.6 CPS

    125bhp

    150Nm at 4500rpm

    90.58bhp per tonne

    RM75K est.

    Wasnt that bad…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:55 am

    @Prem3377

    Your beloved company bragging about their 3 Star (supposedly) Euro Ncap when in reality its an internal test. Now who is being STUPID? :D

    Crash test at higher speed doesn't mean Proton's car is good. Even today proton can crash test their car at 100KM/H. But of course, the result will be devastated.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Wisdom said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 1:47 am

    MyBoy said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 12:30 am

    One thing for sure. Exora is an OVERWEIGHT MPV coupled with a small 1.6 CamPro CPS engine.

    ———————————————————

    Refer attached spec comparison (including price) of most available MPV on Malaysian market. See line 6 of each model, power:weight ratio. Compare with estimated figures for Exora.

    i dunno if it is overweight , but i am sure that more torque is better to pull the vehicle , maybe you should do a torque to weight ratio data for those car as well , then we will see the winner

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • @myboy

    You must have ignore my post regarding the power-torque curve. You think we don’t know that? Sorry lah bro, nowadays even orang kampung know the fact. They buy your car just because they can’t afford other brand (because of our tax structure) not that they think your car is good. :D

    —————————–

    at least org kampung like us actually work our ass up to buy a car than like u. who are depending on their laoban FAMA to buy a car for them

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Prem3377 on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:56 am

    MyBoy said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 1:36 am

    Prem3377

    @waja2000

    i personally estimate your level of knowledge of FC is next to nothing!!

    ____________________________________________________________________

    @Prem3377

    Then yours suppose to be second to none? So, can you tell me that this MPV FC is at least the same at the Gen2/Persona? No you can’t, right?

    ________________________________________________________________________

    i cant tell you cause i dont know the MPV is not out yet for god sake!!!..and that what i have been trying to say…DONT ASSUME IF YOU DONT KNOW!!!tell your fren waja2000 and read it yourself too!!!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:59 am

    @Wisdom

    Why did you do a power/weight ratio when even Proton diehard saying that torque is more important for an MPV. Tell you what, why don't we go for Torque/Weight instead (better still if you can provide POWER-TORQUE graph).

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Prem3377 on Feb 18, 2009 at 10:02 am

    MyBoy said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 1:55 am

    @Prem3377

    Your beloved company bragging about their 3 Star (supposedly) Euro Ncap when in reality its an internal test. Now who is being STUPID?

    Crash test at higher speed doesn’t mean Proton’s car is good. Even today proton can crash test their car at 100KM/H. But of course, the result will be devastated.

    ______________________________________________________________________

    are you too dumb or what??dont you know proton waja was tested by euro NCAP and was given a 3star????

    use your brain abit la please!!!dont make yourself stupid by acting smart!!!

    what i meant was internal crash test are always more stricter than those NCAP test..its a fact….if NCAP test your car at 50km/h…internal crash test test it at 54 km/h or maybe 60km/h

    and nowadays crash tests are done in computer first..so dont assume NCAP is better than internal….and this is a FACT…unlike your dump and asumptions!!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 10:03 am

    @hax!

    That is exactly what I'm saying. Orang kampong know which car is good. Its just Proton is the cheapest, not that they really like it.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • EricG on Feb 18, 2009 at 10:05 am

    WOW, FASTEST GROWING COMMENT!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Wisdom (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 10:08 am

    mct said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 1:55 am

    Wisdom said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 1:47 am

    MyBoy said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 12:30 am

    One thing for sure. Exora is an OVERWEIGHT MPV coupled with a small 1.6 CamPro CPS engine.

    ———————————————————

    Refer attached spec comparison (including price) of most available MPV on Malaysian market. See line 6 of each model, power:weight ratio. Compare with estimated figures for Exora.

    ——————————————–

    i dunno if it is overweight , but i am sure that more torque is better to pull the vehicle , maybe you should do a torque to weight ratio data for those car as well , then we will see the winner

    ——————————————-

    i didnt know if your doing any engineering study but torque vs weight calculation is not as simple as torque divide by weight. As oppose to power: weight ratio, usually related to max engine output per weight where engineers can usually dictated absolute speed/momentum/useful for aerodynamic calculation. But torque… depends on linearity will have different results on different weight, and affect absolute acceleration figures.

    But as always u can just simply divide torque & weight figure to continue you're 'kampung' style bashing. Some could believe it if you're lucky.

    Aaa look! your brain is trying to think!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 10:10 am

    Prem3377 said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 1:51 am

    @myboy

    and since you can answer on behalf waja2000 i have all the rights to answer for sifu or anyone else here!!!

    _________________________________________________________________

    @Prem3377

    No problem bro, if you know head and tail.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • oi myboy,

    i see a lot of rich family buy proton saga as 2nd car?

    so.. what do u say about that?

    they have money and they can choose and they choose Proton instead

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Prem3377 on Feb 18, 2009 at 10:15 am

    MyBoy said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 2:05 am

    @Prem3377

    Hey Smart@$$. Next time don’t interrupt my conversation with him if you don’t know head and tail. I was talking to him about Savvy for god sake.

    _____________________________________________________________________

    hey smartest @$$ you said proton cars…read again your post that you wrote in reply of my comment..i dont see any savvy…you said proton cars…and proton cars are tested in spain..so how do you consider that as internal??? and i already told you…ncap is not the ultimate crash test department!!!!!!!so why a big fusss?????

    i will reply you tomorow…we will see what dumb comments you will post after this…good nite!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Prem3377 on Feb 18, 2009 at 10:17 am

    yah agree with wisdom….calculate all you can..but end of the day its not gonna be true…so why bother??

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 10:18 am

    @Prem3377

    Since you at first was replying on Si-Fu's behalf, you should have read the earlier post. Good nite nice@$$. :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Wisdom said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 1:47 am

    MyBoy said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 12:30 am

    One thing for sure. Exora is an OVERWEIGHT MPV coupled with a small 1.6 CamPro CPS engine.

    ———————————————————

    Refer attached spec comparison (including price) of most available MPV on Malaysian market. See line 6 of each model, power:weight ratio. Compare with estimated figures for Exora.

    _________________________________________________________________________

    i already tell you to watch out for my post .

    i already post 1 post complete with link and this is tested by taiwan gov , not some cheapo mag . every car have to go through this test and this test based on euro standard .

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • taiwan gov? taiwan government?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 10:22 am

    @mct

    Bro, I think he 'missed' your post on purpose. Because if he doesn't, it will make CamPro looks BAD. :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 10:24 am

    @Wisdom

    I pray you will. :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • madzly_musa (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 10:24 am

    why campro cps 1.6 huh..?

    why not campro cps 1.8 or 2.0?

    why??why??

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • mct said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 1:01 am

    i can provide the fc test by taiwan gov

    the gen2 score average 13.2km/L city 11.4km/L highway 16.4km/L

    nissan sylphy 2.0 cvt average 15km/L city 13.2km/L highway 18.0km/L

    toyota altis 2.0 average 14km/L city 12.4km/L highway

    toyota camry 2.0 average 12.3km/l city 10.4km/L highway 15.8km/L

    honda civic 2.0 average 14.4km/L city 12.2km/L highway 18.3km/L

    honda accord 2.0 average 12.4km/L city 8.9km/L highway 16.2km/L

    nissan teana 2.0 average 10.6km/L city 7.7km/L highway 13.6km/L

    prove : http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/
    go find it your self by typing the car name
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… (sylphy)
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… (civic)
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… (accord)
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… (teana)
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… (gen 2)
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… (camry)

    ————————————————————

    hm you ask why 1.6 gen2 is alone ? this is due to you, because you wanted fact to back up the comment made by waja2000. so i give many 2.0 car to prove that 1.6 gen2 is a greater fuel sucker then 2.0 car .

    since you like to see 1.6 car test………..

    here there are

    gen 2 1.6 avg 13.2km/1 city 11.4km/l higway 16.4km/1

    mitusbishi colt plus 1.6 avg 16.8km/l city 15.1km/l highway 19.5km/l

    mazda 3 1.6 avg 13.6km/l city 11.9km/l highway 16.5km/1

    toyota altis 1.6 avg 14.7km/l city 12.6km/l highway 18.3km/l

    nissan latio 1.6 avg 16km/l city 13.7km highway 20.3km/l

    mitsubishi lancer 1.8 avg 15.4km/l city 12.9km/l highway 20km/l

    still , gen2 is the worst on FC test
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_spec/id/177… colt
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… mazda 3
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… gen2
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… altis
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… latio
    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… lancer

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • aku rasa bole wat buku korg punyer komen2 nih…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Salamander on Feb 18, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Nice name. Congrats proton on producing a nice affordable MPV.

    BTW just curious after reading all those long comment is this MyBoy being paid to bash the MPV? seems like I always see him replying after a few comment non-stop.

    Cheers~

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • terminatorkun on Feb 18, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    Haiya……stop condemn each other la….wait until april and when they lunch the car you can test drive after that you can give comment….If you think you are very good….design your own car and engine la….design enjin mesin rumput pun tak tau nak bising2 pulak…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • r3dskai on Feb 18, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    well,what can i say..typical M'sian. Bla..bla..bla..even none ever seen em' in flesh..prfftth!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • this is 7 seaters mpv with 1.6L engine(at least).

    sure can climb genting?

    proton asked naza to trim down their rondo to make this mpv same par or better (interior)

    avanza/fortuner/rush are all mpv/suv but ride like a van

    bumpy rock n roll!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MisterBenjo on Feb 18, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    300++ Comment already? Surely most anticipated Proton.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Proton Buntut Besar on Feb 18, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    Proton Saga <– from pokok saga –vegetation. should be SEGA ? he he

    Proton Exora <– from Ixora – flower@vegetation — become Exora

    E – electronic like e-mail, e-card, eeeee..takutnye also can consider E… they are using I-Drive technology like BMWs? Why not E-Drive Technology? hehe..

    but… seems that some Malaysian cannot spell alphabet R very well, maybe they will pronunciate it as Ei + Zo + La..

    one more thing, if Ixora original sound is E–zoh –rah, why Exora not become Air + Zoh+rah? Any english teacher here ? hehe

    and one more thing, any NICK NAME for this Exora, Vios got its name as DUGONG.. so, this Exora become…? Proton Buntut Besar.. hehe..

    But i think this is a good job from P1, if the economic goes very well this year, it can sell very well.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Crash on Feb 18, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Nissan Grand Livina 1.6 Auto

    1245kg

    HR16DE (no variable valve timing / lift)

    105hp

    150Nm at 4,400rpm

    84.34bhp per tonne

    RM88K

    Proton Exora 1.6 auto

    1300kg (est)

    Campro 1.6 CPS

    125bhp

    150Nm at 4500rpm

    96.15bhp per tonne

    RM75K est.

    Kira ok la… i've drive Livina 1.6 and its still enjoyable.. just hope Exora more more enjoy.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • anti_tipu on Feb 18, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    namanya awal2 lagi tidak menepati syarat2 pertandingan.. ada sesiapa rajin protes kat forum2 di akhbar2?..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • anti_tipu on Feb 18, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    tak kisahlah Exora ka Ixora ka.. tetap dari tumbuhan..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • CFA28 on Feb 18, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    I was never a Proton supporter but I think that ppl who want to buy a (real) MPV and want good fuel consumption should get their priorities right. Unless you are buying a diesel or hybrid MPV.

    Firstly what do you mean by good FC. Better than a current sedan. Then which sedan are you comparing to? Vios / City which is well known for fuel effciency. In fact, its a foregone conclusion that a MPV will normally consume more fuel than a sedan.

    I know, many ppl will flame me but a Grand Livina is not an MPV. Its more like a station wagon with 3 rows of seats. Please do also note that the GL third row is a bench and ETCM is giving the el-cheapo "drum brakes". It also looks and behaves more like a sedan than a MPV but can fit 3 rows because there is almost no boot space.

    If the MPV is too light, ppl will also complain that its a milo tin. If its more solid and thus weighs more, ppl will complain its too heavy. Of course, the secret to build a lighter MPV, is to use more high quality steel (and perhaps some composite materials) and other more technical stuff like that but then again, the price will definately be more than RM80,000 (USD23,000 based on USD1:RM3.5).

    The other problem is that Proton does not have economies of scale. If Proton can sell more than 1 million units of this MPV a year, the price can be lowered to perhaps even RM60K.

    Unless you always carry seven ppl very often, don't buy a MPV, you can always use 2 cars to ferry 7 ppl if its only like 1 time a week or 1 every 2 weeks. I know of ppl who do that – use 2 cars when necessary and hang on to their old cars.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • atoyo@tialuk on Feb 18, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    tak leh murah lagi keeeeeeerrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • atoyot@ialuk on Feb 18, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    asal tak 1.8cc….??? kalau setakat 1.6cc rege 60~70K ok la aku nak beli….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • autojohndoe on Feb 18, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    if u know some about cars, doesnt mean that u know all details about cars… even automotive engineers is specialize at certain area and not all (engine, transmission, chasis, steering, brake etc)… mechanics mostly know how to tune cars, but not designing cars (so, they talk not all correct also)…

    some of us bash here and there, yet not testing it personally, but already gives comment like they are the one who designs the car, crashing the car… and put the word SURE, CONFIRM, MUST bad…the best is sure_ah_beng can predict this mpv sale will be lower than not-yet-seen-p2-mpv… hahaha…

    but, lately, i dont see anyone talking about power windows… hmm this good… but, more to interior quality and FC… another things to do… KAIZEN!!! YOSH!!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • BlackJKX on Feb 18, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    Jaga2 bodyroll when fully loaded.When take slightly fast u-turn or masuk simpang,then with this MPV, with u, with ur passenger will baring atas jalan.Kiokk!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Wisdom (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    CFA28 i agree with your 'priority' comment. Some people here wants a big Proton MPV with feather like weight so it will be very fuel efficient, in the same time have a solid (not milo tin like) body, and very good crash safety rating. They got confused in their priority coordination for the sake of bashing..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • muryadi (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Interesting comments!!!

    Please let me tell a little bit about my background.

    As a freelance technician and working in Japan for almost 1 year now. I also work in UK for 9 months before. In total I've been working abroad for almost 5 years now.

    I'm really proud of Proton's achievement so far. There are always rooms for further improvement.

    I'm always proud when I can see our nation would be able to produce a good and improving cars.

    Proud to see our proton cars in the UK, South Africa and some other countries. They regards our proton cars as a good import cars just like us admiring other import products from Japan or Europe's (except for China's cars of course).

    Way to go protonians/malaysian. Personally I'll support Proton.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • LogicallyMad (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    haro said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 8:09 am

    proton asked naza to trim down their rondo to make this mpv same par or better (interior)

    —————————-

    huh??????? Are you for real…? Are you saying that Proton is controlling NAZA…???? OMG….

    Dun make baseless and false accusation… It might lead to court case….

    NAZA trimmed down their rondo to make it cheaper….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Wisdom (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    BlackJKX said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 9:45 am

    Jaga2 bodyroll when fully loaded.When take slightly fast u-turn or masuk simpang,then with this MPV, with u, with ur passenger will baring atas jalan.Kiokk!!

    ——————————————–

    Johorean right? Pity u bought your black JKX a bit early, if not u still stand a chance for this year's few exciting new models including this Exora. Envious statement wasn't it?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • LogicallyMad (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    Even PERODUA trimmed down toyota cars to make it cheaper…..

    Are you gonna say that PROTON told them to trim down those toyota cars too???

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • normal_user on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    Paul, aren't you sick with these emotional people?

    How bout this. Let us all wait for the MPV to be launched, before we can comment on it. If you have any ideas, please respect other conflicting ideas from other people. No need to be rude, swearing here and there. I'm hoping for more informational comments from si-fu. Keep em coming.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Crash on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    mct said,

    http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/newcar_trim_overview/id… gen2

    i think its a gen2 with bare campro. maybe you need campro cps for that gen2.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • farghmee on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    about the naming contest, the rules regarding the name are likely not laymen term. i'm no lawyer, so i don't know :sigh:

    offtopic>>

    macam2 komen ada 8)

    if i want to buy an mpv, it must have:

    *good exterior.

    *good handling.

    *driver friendly interior.

    *less FC.

    *comfortable cabin environment.

    *easy to service (available spareparts, SC).

    choose wisely.

    buy car/mpv/suv that suits u :)

    *if ncap is really important, then plz study the ncaps' of others.

    *if big displacement is really a concern, plz choose others.

    *if "tin milo" is not safe, go for "less-than-kereta kebal-grade-armor plating-bunker" for peace of mind.

    i neither have a diploma in automotive eng. nor a diploma in automation eng.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MPVdealer2009 on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    I thought my submitted one ..Proton Destina for destinasi or destination should win this naming contest…Well I guess i don't have the Proton head then..

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • dzulx on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Well 1.6 cps might not be my choice for this MPV. Neither do proton. The fact is 1.6 cps is the highest output engine they have in their stable now and no matter what they have to use this engine for the MPV. Or else they have to wait till 2010 2011 when the turbo is ready. You dont want to wait till 2010 do you?

    I am sure they will change the powertrain once they have the option, but now they just dont have. They have to tune and tweak the only engine they have now just to move the MPV. It is not perfect but they have no choice at the moment. I surely believe Proton engineers done their best within their constraint since this is their baby to. Never estimate the motivation of a dying company, especially when they know its not because of their incompetency. Its just because of their moron previous managements.

    I personally think it will be underpowered and I surely will go for test drive with the skeptic. I do expect Proton to surprise me with this MPV. Otherwise, have the right as a consumer, I would not even think of buying it.

    To myboy, your comment make me pity you. It shows how uneducated you are. Do you think if proton lingkup and no more high tax youll able to buy good Japanese car? all the fairlady evo imprezza? You have to realize good Japanese car cost a bomb with or without tax unless you think avanza is a good Japanese car.

    I really blame Malaysia's government for failing to educate people like you. Oh wait why blame government? Of course, any bad thing happen to us is because of government. Country needs to give everything we need in our live or else we bash till die

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Wisdom (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    LogicallyMad said,

    February 18, 2009 @ 10:03 am

    Even PERODUA trimmed down toyota cars to make it cheaper…..

    Are you gonna say that PROTON told them to trim down those toyota cars too???

    —————————————-

    Proton even told Tata India to trim down car as a whole globally so they came up with Tata Nano…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • peejat on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    proton exora.sound like perfume sprayer or soap je. proton not following a rules.i agreed with others.all a dam dam must be sack out.

    i likeS a mpv named proton JATICA.

    Any way, proton must down a price of MPV. too expensive.should come

    RM55-RM65k.engine was developed.it not new engine.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • bmpower on Feb 18, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    so bising la Myviboy

    I think savvy not get 3 star ncap they not test it yet.

    they just had TUV certified.

    viva and myvi not even tested, but what i know, both car mostly badly broke in accident… include death of the drivers.

    at least, savvy proven tough body shell.

    the taiwan cpmparison I believe was only on previous old CamTakPro. for new gen campro.. iafm etc, the fc are better. The saga FC are the best for now. (im not talking about good fc but underpowered and unsafe viva)

    If the proton bad in FC, they have a good handling that other car not had. vice versa.

    and again!.. I dislike Chips Yap, he biased to hate proton.. why?

    You please check.. most of the protons car review (front page), he will make a forum post (hiddenly – for people to bash it) and that makes proton look bad. .Others car = no forum post ie : for you (basher) to comments. I just noticed it since years ago..

    Maybe just me or accidentally.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    @dzulx

    Bro, I do agree with the first part of your post. Yes, Proton have no choice. Why can't the Proton diehard just admit the fact instead of make themselves look silly just to defend things that can't be defended.

    As for your comment about the Jap car still cost a bomb even without our high tax structure, its really make you sounds uneducated too. :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • bluefire on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    exora seem like for doedorant brand ( ubat ketiak )

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    @bmpower

    Agree with you on Myvi and I happen to bash Myvi too. But at least they did not do an advertisement and brag about safety rating that they don't even have. :D

    As for the forum. Have seen the forum? Over there we bashed everything that is not as good as advertise and also things that are not practical (e.g: pairing a heavy MPV with engine that only good for cars) and my other things.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • ej@n

    Bagus tu, biar dia org bergasak komen dulu. Kete tak kuar lagi!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    @bmpower

    As for Taiwan comparison. Even if the engine tested was 1.6 CamTakPro, its still post a result that is worst than many 2.0 engine. So at best the 1.6 CamPro CPS should be on par instead of worst than other 2.0 engine. Then again, its 2.0 that we are talking about. FC for 1.6 engine that on par with 2.0 engine is surely a BAD thing.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • bluefire on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    i heard from toyota salesman that myvi 7 seater will be launches after exora

    ( deodorant brand )

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • auto fan on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    bertenang said,

    February 17, 2009 @ 2:38 pm

    “not consist of any form of the animal kingdom, or vegetation;”

    “consist of” and “based on” are two different things, though not very far apart in this case.

    EXORA is based on, but not consist of a floral name. So i don’t see any rules being broken here.

    Just my two cents.

    ————–

    you got it right…. that is the case…

    ppl so easily confused by some words…. “consist of” and “based on” are two different things…

    I believe some ppl realise it , it just that their judgement is clouded by their anguish cuz they did not win the competition… =p

    _________________________________________________________________________

    contest ni untuk 'naming mpv contest' ke ' pemahaman syarat contest'?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • CFA28 on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Cars are expensive in Malaysia for 2 reasons, the first is due to our currency. The good old days was USD1:RM2.5 compared to now USD1: RM3.5. That means that our ringgit has depreciated by almost 40%. The comparison will be the same vs the Yen or Pound.

    Secondly is also the tax structure. The City without tax would only be RM55K to RM60k without taxes in Langkawi . That is cheaper than with taxes but still expensive for a entry level car. For car prices to drop further, its either our RM must appreciate of sales volume must be higher. Both are impossible in the current economic condition but of course, if economy drop further, dealers will give discounts but would the average Joe dare to commit when his job is also not stable / secure.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • autojohndoe on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    @MyviBoy

    what things cant be defended? and what is actually that u defend?

    if u have test the car, then i will admit all ur saying (FC, underpower, gear ratio and etc)…. but if it is only a say assumption… then no one can take it (except the proton-haters)… if u have the complete spec of the car

    u bash on things that not yet driven… is it wise?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    @autojohndoe

    Ok bro quite agree with you, let just wait for the MPV's debut. As of now, just talk about the info that we already have. :D

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Matbus on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    Wah…its good meh…in 24h..already 3++ comments…it shows that ppl really concern on P1…luckily it didnt go 2 either VAG or GM…otherwise all the dvlpment is kaput…and our local ppl will be kicked out of job…while other carmakers are struggling like hell…were a bit covered…still no good meh?… Now what happened 2 SE Detroit (Thai)? Many close shop..the local suffered.. Proton Exora..name itself speak for international market…othrwise P1 wont dare 2 change from Wira 2 Persona…This MPV not 4 racing ma…4 family lo.. Maybe later our Bomba or Polis will use it for their FAT (Fast Action Team) with some equipment…maybe the platform will be used 2 do replacement 4 Arena..who knows….save cost…even Jaguar itself refer Lotus 4 product dev. there's the value of Proton..maybe they didnt realise bout it last time.. but at least its better late than never or otherwise they already become butterlake.. think broader meh…Support Msian Products..bad or good its still ours..chow

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • farghmee on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    i dun believe foreign cars are going cheaper if proton is no more.

    *now we have proton, they tax high.later no proton, they tax even higher.

    -becoz gov know people have to buy otherway.

    -becoz foreign compny know they have lesser competitor.

    for a nation to grow, it has to have the beginning&ending of a product.

    not understand? let me explain.

    we produce microchip, tyre, screws&nut, steel. we can sell those.

    but if

    we can give the combination of those into another added value product say a car, we can sell this car at higher price.

    the benefit is that the demand for minute small things above will remain constant within the nation.

    the idea is to be self-sustaining. we have the industry. keep it for ourselves.

    we forgotten the agriculture for long time, now we realized that it is important. do we need to forget the industryl & repeat the mistake as in case of agriculture?

    keyword: Self-Sustaining.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    @autojohndoe

    As for thing that can't be defended. Why can't the supporters here just admit that Proton have no choice but to put an engine that is good for a car in a heavy (by its class) MPV? Hope they can expedite the turbo engine program.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • MyBoy on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    @farghmee

    Did all developed country have their own Auto Industry? The answer is NO. Anyway, In this case I support Proton and I agree with your point. But that doesn't mean We can't bash them when they are not doing a good job.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • autojohndoe on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    again…

    worst = baddest

    worse = badder than.. haha… badder is not in dictionary…

    so, use the word wisely… when it mean "worst"… just like it is worse than ford lynx 2.0, legacy 2.0 etc, in fact it is not… in asean autobosch the Campro is efficient compared to chevrolet and hyundai…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • ManNero (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    although everyone is entitled to their opinion, there is really no need to get overly emotional with the comments. this thread is about proton announcing the winner of the naming the mpv contest and judging from the number of comments, it looks like this mpv is generating a lot of excitements. i think the name proton exora is quite nice and thanx to all the informative comments.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • bmpower ?

    if you read Chinese , then you can go below link check it your self , newest testing of fc on persona iafm and gen 2 iafm , no cps for taiwan market .
    http://news.u-car.com.tw/news-detail.asp?nid=8720 persona iafm
    http://news.u-car.com.tw/news-detail.asp?nid=8801 gen2 iafm

    persona 1.6 auto score city 8.72km/l highway 12.89km/l avg 11km/l

    persona manual score city 9.08km/l highway 15.4km/l avg 12.1km/l

    even accord 2.0 is doing better then persona 1.6 at on city drive, hghway and avg.

    as for gen2 iafm , its very disappointing . it score lower millage for 1 L of fuel then the previos gen2

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • dzulx on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Hahaha myboy,

    Such an idiot.. You think Japanese cars are cheap… How bout this. You go and live in Japan for 6 years take your second degree like I did. Then you come back and tell me whether you still think Japanese cars are cheap. Protons cars are neither cheap and frankly they can only sell because of Malaysia's tax structure. Dont compare Japanese car made in Thailand.. they are reasonable if not overpriced.

    Dream on boy to buy new evo once tax is relieved. You just can not get it. Just take civic hybrid for instance, after tax relieved the price still almost 130k. You call that what? Cheap? of course its cheaper than before at 160k++. The cars aint cheap myboy no matter what.

    In fact you have to thank Proton since because of them you can get affordable foreign cars that does not affected by currency inflation. At least more and more cars are CKDed because of the policy protecting proton, and our automotive industry blooming quite well.

    Just imagine in 1997 when our currency crashed. if we still importing cars, how many of us could not afford to buy car since the price doubled in just a matter of days.

    Well myboy, I envy you. Your ability to be ignorant despite off all compulsory education in our country and Information Technology that we have and your determination to defense you ignorance is just awesome.

    My advice practice you consumer right. Dont like proton dont buy. Like proton buy. The difference is not to much I think. It just depends on your priority. Car first or house first or live first. Status or necessity.

    I just bought myvi SE although I hated it at first. I still hate its performance and handling even now but I start to appreciate and like it. The characteristic it has fits my requirement for second car which is neither performance nor handling. Hate to admit but im licking back my spit. But who cares I am happy. Maybe you will appreciate Exora if it does the same to you.

    But obviously myboy, either you are not earning yourself to buy a car or you just a school boy. By all means go buy your love car even its not Proton. Proton MPV is just not created for you like Toyota Alphard is just not created for me.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • ROBERT on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    NO CONFIDENT WITH PROTON PRODUCT,MALAYSIAN USER IS PROTON WHITE RAT….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • farghmee on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    hmm..

    the term "good", "bad" are all subjective & relative.

    for those whose expectation standard is skyrocketing, proton looks bad.

    for those whose expectation standard is sensible, proton looks ok.

    as for me, sensible is fair enuff 8)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • muryadi (Member) on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Bashing is not good.

    Some complements and than follows by suggestions and ideas is much better.

    Example like a boss/father/parents communicates to their staff/child/children, we should always established of their hard works and keep on telling them to improves.

    Proton begins with rebadging/CKD of mitsubishi's products and now already producing their own cars/MPV..

    Go Proton go and make us/malaysian proud.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • do you guys know, rondo means JANDA in jawa

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • stroller on Feb 18, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    off topic>>

    the commentary in this channel has gone waayyyy out of the topic…. everybody hs degree in engineering, designing, commenting, bashing, 1st class honour…. way to go guys….

    no body ask u guys to buy this p1 mpv… the choice is ur's

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • smerah on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Penyertaan hendaklah sama ada dalam bahasa Malaysia atau bahasa Inggeris dan mestilah:-

    – Tidak diambil daripada mana-mana nama binatang atau tumbuh-tumbuhan;

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • AlfaRomeo=Ferrari&#0 on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    "Exora" sounds close to JUARA! I'm hoping it wont suffer the same fate as 'the-now-defunct' JUARA….

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • tanasi on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Real men don't drive japs or mercs or bmws or other wannabes. Real men drive Trabants.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Xfaham on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    hmm wat happen to this forum???

    i tot dat this only about name of the mpv

    now it turns out to be a parliament debate…

    huh with Basher and Supporter..

    maybe the basher didnt learn the sejarah n perlembagaan

    diorg sanggup jadi org jajahan jepun lagi..

    i dun really understand malaysian..

    why ur mentality still do not change even we have achieved independent for over 50 years??

    i really dissapointed wit malaysian..

    we should support our product

    we should increased our economic scale by supporting our product

    then our country will be recognaised by other country

    this is not about FC or HP or wut

    this is about spirits of Malaysian

    if we as malaysian do not have the spirits

    so how we as malaysian will develop our country???

    HOW?!!!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • mukhri88 on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Euro NCAP is independent and is a world class benchmark. To achieve more sales, most manufacturers will promote their vehicle's Euro NCAP rating in their ads. So, just go get a rating from NCAP, no excuses. Big deal. Who cares internal tests are more demanding, people only publish Euro NCAP ratings, not internal tests.

    At Proton's current level of technology, I trust Euro NCAP will at least give 4 star. You idiots think what, Proton low tech ah! PROTON IS AT PAR WITH ANY MANUFACTURER. Get that through your thick skullz.

    Just send the damn MPV to Euro NCAP and get that 4 star rating. Big deal. This'll shut down these dumbass idiots from bashing Exora and calling it not safe to carry our loved ones.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Persona Jiwa on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    sound like 'citroen Xsara'

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • autojohndoe on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    @mukhri…

    i m not against u… but ur statement might kill u… hoho…

    be happy my fren… about the, we already know the name, we know the look… for me it is just enough at the time being…

    the rest, let future tells us…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Eeee takutnye on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Exora pronunciation = Ei + Zoh + Ra or Air + Zoh+ Rah? No pronunciation in Oxford Dictionary meh?

    Bur for those who cannot pronunciate R very well, it become Ei + Zoh + La…Hu, Hu, Hu!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • CFA28 on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Euro NCAP buys cars directly and secretly from dealers and then crashes the cars. If the manufacturer were to send their cars for testing, you will be sure that the car will be reinforced in some shape or form. That's why Euro NCAP testing is very independent because even the dealers who sell the cars will not know it is Euro NCAP buying.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Eeee takutnye on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Pertandingan Mencipta Nama Timangan Bagi Proton Exora..

    syarat2…

    – bukan nama haiwan atau bunga ,atau anggota badan

    – mestilah melambangkan bentuk badan kereta (Vios = Dugong )

    hehe.. hadiah … Glamour..

    Anyone? I suggest Proton Bontot Besar … Buntut, part of human bodies.. Bontot should be okey…

    yeah… Proton Bontot Besar… any competitors?

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • nabill on Feb 18, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    even if it gets the ful 5 stars , it wil stil get bashed believe me …some ppl here make me speechless

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • xnak beli duk diam2..korang nyer duit, korang nyer suka nak beli keta apa pun..rambut sama itam hati korang makan ler sendiri huahuahua…

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • lantokkorangla on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    tahniah la kepada pemenag. sebenarnya proton takyah kuar logo pon. sebab orang beli proton misti tukar logonyer. paling koman pon dorang pakai logo mitsubishi.. logo ferrari pon ada aku nampak.. (kahkahkah). They supposed to come out with catalogue with list of logos.. buyer may choose to put any logo they want.. not to mention the name as well.. ahaks!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Ah Piau on Feb 18, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Come on la guys. Ok any more info about this MPV. Sinca that its open for booking this Saturday, atleast we need some info before commit ourselves.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  • Wisdom