Proton decided to give Media Prima’s TV3 a scoop on the new Proton Waja replacement “P390A” model based on the current generation Mitsubishi Lancer. A TV3 program earlier this week had shots of a covered Proton-badged Lancer with a red paintjob.
The cover was lifted up a little momentarily at different sections of the car to give us a glimpse of the styling changes that Proton has done – the entire front end looks different and I must say quite similiar to the rendering that Theophilus did (shown in line). TV3 also reveals that a manual transmission will be available.
“Good Job” =.=
Dear Paul n Danny, eagerly anticipating ur test drive verdicts, do give us some comparisons to the cars in peer segment but also same price range, cause money really matters in real life. All the bests!
im waiting for the R3 version of this! maybe can challege the EVO version…
who knows… =)
Seems now everybody calling it wajalancer, ive come out with a cool name since its gonna spread very fast and deadly…. lets call it WajaCancer instead
It’s funny, Proton has one of the best automotive factory in the world and all the technology from lotus who are making wonderful cars, yet Proton fail to take advantage of it. The quality of some Proton cars are very bad. What a waste Proton.
Haha ha ha ha…in your dream! Even they produce R3 version of this,, it will be not more than 155hp! RACE, REPAIR & ROSAK..kakakakak
good 1
I doubt they would make an R3 version.
I heard there could be paddle shifters in the waja. It should be fun to drive.
Challenge an EVO??!! I doubt it could challenge the old Satria GTI.
if not mistake proton use back Mitsubishi Mivec engine, bcoz Campro are FAILURE!!! =x Soo, totally is Pirated Mitsubishi Lancer10, itssss so funny~ Hello Proton, you just like selling Nike T-shirt at Pasar Malam! Copy cat! what a shame!!
nothing to shame about, becoz perodua, mazda 2 with ford also doing copy cat job
Still u buy, right? So stop bashing proton just because they are following the consumers’ trends !
poor lancer….
so after 25 years or “excellence”, we are still at where we were, 25 years ago
peug…even worst if u say like that 80-90 yrs before…peug rebadge some of its model base on mitsu
betul3…. tapi peug sekarang ni mantap dowh… i love my peug..
Not really. Please explain with facts next time.
good news! they want another 25 years!
haha..agreed.. affter 25 years… we are still taking the lancer to rebadges…it is a real snap on Dr M face!
Anyway, as a positive person… I still hope that P1 can make the wor…to the world, by putting lotus chasis expertises on handling devision to make the car better then original Lancer GT!
i AM WAITING A DAY THAT I CAN BE PROUDLY SAY THAT PROTON IS A GREAT JOD OF MALAYSIAN CAR!!!
i read somewhere that mitsu rebadges exora and persona as their product at south america…
these ppl only can bash, not knowing that they are using P2 PHOTOSTAT PRODUCT all this while…. what a shame…
we’ll be seeing exora n persona in mitsu products line up. means that P1’s DESIGN IS GOOD!
Helo sekalian alam yg tak tahu apa n wat tau belaka…korang tahu tal kerja tampal menampal edit mengedit rebadge apa la untuk kete adalah benda biasa…jgn jd tak tahu apa…bukan proton ja wat mitsu pun wat bg model proton cth exora tu…itu la dinamakan kolaborasi bg company untuk terus berdaya saing…peugot pun wat…n amost suma wat la basher basher sekalian….if nk sngt naik kete yg hebat yg laju yg canggih tunggu la proton jd semakin matang n they work for it….ingtlah jepun nak kuar kete dl pun seksa samapai nk naik bukit pun tak leh n mkn 40 thn…buka otak anda yg sempit dn bc la magazine kete n suma ada jelas…bukan magazine hiburan….magazine kete selalu wat review kete (ni direbadge oleh kete yg sblum nie n bla bla bla)…
Agreed with some of your points…but one thing..the quality of proton cars are really suck! After more than 10 years of R&D, at least they must know how to control the quality..Nak kate murah x ler murah…mencekik duit rakyat jer!
setuju ngan pendapat u..proud to be malaysian..nape nak kutuk proton..tengok la perodua tu..apa kereta yg dia org produce….semua copy n paste only..dari start ditubuhkan sampai skrg..asik rebadge aje..pas tu declare as national car…maluuuuuu…atleast proton can build a own car n design…
200% tax on cars n expensive road tax is too much…plz do sumthing government….distribute the taxes on else…lets make Proton and perodua stand by themselves…25 years is long2 period of time….
Good Designers Copy, Great Designers Steal – Pablo Picasso
dorg kan dah kerjasama ngn mitsu,ngape plak tiru ,ciplak plak?…
dari dulu waja base on lancer model….
proton mmg asl kerjasama ngn mitsu sjak model awal pon..
Can you read?
I’m not against p1. But, it’s the nature of designing. It’s not just in automotive industries, elsewhere like IT, home deco, even home appliances. Don’t just blindly bash. I’m just saying it’s not a crime if you copy someone else design.
what a shame!!!
c’mon laa.. other car maker also do rebadge.. so what the big deal..?
save cost for the manufacturer that rebadge bcoz doesnt have to take out a lot of money to design, build chassis, testing, test engines and watsoever..
and for manufacturer that give car to rebadge, they earn money from each car sold for rebadging.. just like royalty laa..
still wondering, why when Aston Martin rebadging iQ into Cygnet, nobody bising2..
proton is small carmaker(when come to fact of proton selling market), not like toyota or honda.. rebadging can save coz for proton, then use the saving to build new car.. they cannot afford to build new car, new chassis, new engine if car only sold 10000 unit monthly(include outside market)..
imagine, they have persona + gen2(actually the same), exora, savvy, saga, waja, satria. 6 model..!! if every year have to introduce 1 new model(replacement) or facelift, and let say,( read carefully, LET SAY) 1 model took rm500million to build the replacement, 6 equal to 3 billion.. it is a lot of money..
rebadging maybe took only half of the cost.. dude, great saving, and next model can have their own chassis, engine and watsoever improvement..
You maybe don’t know that Proton already wasting a lot of money in R&D, lots of model they build and tested which are not expose to public openly. If Proton’s business plan already decide to set not to invest in R&D, they shouldn’t waste money in the 1st place. Why is Proton wasting money in R&D, then build good car to compete/sell in other countries but sell expensive & lousy quality to own country?
Pls wake up and think, compare to China own manufacturer, their ppl can enjoy their own country car manufacturer’s car at cheap price.
ini memang la kerja org r&d, buang duit,, bukan semua benda 2 akan menjadi in 1st time.. testing bukan nyr murah.. banyak benda yg perlu di fikirkan dan test lg. sampai menjadi.. isu kualiti bukan salah proton 100% vendor pun perlu di salahkan sbb proton yg design tapi vendor yg buat produk.. proton pun jangan la lambat bayr kat vendor ni.. maner diaorg nak cekoh duit nk bg part dulu.. modal tak cukup.. nk wat maintenance mesin pun susah alat ganti takder, duit tak cukup nk beli.. n proton jangan la membazir sewa tapak kilang.. pzz tanjung malim besar n banyak tangah kosong.. ok?
apa bro coment 2 boleh tapi gua ingat lu duduk kat proton punya R&D bagus dari komen kat luar minta la job kat proton R&D kan bagus tgk u better do it or not dari bercakap tak mendatangkan hasil betul tak
can some please tell proton to take their mouth off the government breast. 25 years I sudah graduate degree and started building my career. Look east policy…look at china lar.
pasaran kereta baru di cina setahun boleh cecah sebanyak 8 juta unit, pasaran malaysia hanya 150ribu unit setahun.. so plzz jangan bandingkan cina dengan malaysia,,
I agree with aduss… We should not compare malaysia with china… there’s nothing to compare honestly!
what we should be doing is questioning the rationale behind the establishment of Proton in the first place when all the govt needed to do was to lower taxes for foreign imported cars… (look at Thailand’s automotive industry… they don’t need a national car… why should we?)
That way, all rakyat would be driving a honda or a toyota who’s quality and reliability surpasses proton a thousand times… oh well… we all know proton was a misstep… but hey, at least we have perodua!
haloo. pasaran kereta baru di cina setahun boleh cecah sebanyak 8 juta unit, pasaran malaysia hanya 150ribu unit setahun.. so plzz jangan bandingkan cina dengan malaysia,,
And after 25 years you graduated with your degree only now you are starting your career? Tsk tsk tsk…..what a waste of time, I bet your friend who started a business after spm selling burgers is a multi-millionaire with a chain of burger stalls everywhere (read: tyco burgers)………..and about your look east policy….China’s population is 1.2billion and Malaysia is 27million…….so, you can’t compare malaysia with china…….
KITA PENGGUNA!REMEMBER THAT.so why should we pay hi price for cheap quality?we already gave them 25 years to evolve,but where are we now?still copy and paste?them kutuk perodua as they also did the same thing.
please compare PROTON-HYUNDAI(younger)-CHINA CAR(youngest) and THINK.no need to argue ANYMORE
Why you wan to compare Proton with other maker? Do you working in car manufacturer to complain about price and quality?
apa ni? buat kereta sendiri salah, rebadge pun salah…apa lagi you mau..? ala manufecturer lain pun rebadge kereta dari brand lain gak
kalau nak buat, buat baik baik. jangan macam petronas advertisement lar, orang bagi duit buat sampan sampan rosak.
bukan salah,tapi evolve.kita tidak salahkan proton sebab proton buat kereta sendiri.tapi dah 25 thn duk tang tu jer,saper tak hangin.dah la jual kereta mahal,kualiti murah.kamu lagi mau back up ptoron?buka lah mata anda.jangan kerana disebabkan kereta nasional anda perlu biaise.tolong compare proton dengan manufacturer yang sezaman dengan die iaitu hyundai dan kereta China.sekian,harap maklum
Kami mahu kereta baru yg original, berkualiti dan murah. 25 years have past and P1 still fail to deliver.
PROTON, would you accept trade-in on my newly bought Mitsubishi Lancer for this new Waja ? Cause I’m a patriotic person and want to support Malaysian made product. I don’t mind at all because people will say all genuine Mitsubishi Lancer cars are PROTON anyway later.
U should be happy, bcos U no need go Mitsubishi Service Center anymore, just go to any Proton Service Center will do and enjoy cheaper spare parts or lower maintenance… Hopefully New Waja wont affect to much on Mitsubishi Service Center Business!!!
totaly wright!
Wonder what change they make to the suspension as the newscaster mentioned “Handling by Lotus”.
the spring rate, damper rate etc is what will help largely is improving the handling….
A LOT.
One of my housemate is an enginner with proton’s ride&handling dept, he said A LOT of work have been done on the suspension, as the standard lancer is setup for japanese road and driving style (ppl there dont like like crazy).
Even the Mitsubishi engineers who came to support the suspension tuning give praised to proton’s ride&handiling engineers… coz there are pretty much lotus’s “anak angkat” by now.
other then the suspension, everything else about this the waja-lancer is crap, inferior to its mitsu counter part. p1 wont get the new 2.0 engine engine and the paddle shift i think.. all this according to my p1 friend..
also he said, the earlier you buy the better.. because the percentage of local parts will be increased gradually.. so maybe the 1st batch will contain 80% mitsu parts and eventually reduced to 10~20% (drivetrain/powertrain)..
But its gonna be made in thai anyways, so dont expect Japanese level QC, fit & finish etc..
anyway, im still gonna get one \o/ vrooooooom
again insider……..
Your friend must be joking,I saw one with paddle shifter in one of the news shown in TV3.
agree…u even can see the paddle shift on one of the spy pic…
Agree!..i saw it too.
I really2 wanna know which engineer is ur friend. cuz apart from the handling thingy all of his other information kinda crap…
Another engineer ni perhaps…
since when MMTh produced lancer in their plant?
ppl kat sana(japan) drive berbeza ke dgn org m’sia? saya pecaya gak yg tue coz org2 muda or sesapa yg suka modified kreta akan buat sekurang2nya luar spec dr asal n pastu complen mcm2 naper kete dia ada bunyi or lain mcm(or pecaya ckp org luar yg sebenarnya xtau psl proton). pastu pemandu sini tak penah kesah sgt psl good defensive driving…cuma tahu nak menunjuk2 power diri yg xsberapa n kete convert lawa out of spec nak tayang bagus. sapa yg bole ubah sikap pemandu kita yer..xsemua mcm yg saya katakan…proton 25thn..wah..dah kluar bnyk model kreta yer
Panjang,
Handling does not only lies within the suspension setup. It also covers the car chasis setup and bodyshell. Of course this tuneup is different from that current Mitsu Lancer and you got Lotus Legendary and Revolutionaly Ride and Handling. The handling is more precise and more agile dan that current Mitsu Lancer. Undeniable.
me said
other then the suspension, everything else about this the waja-lancer is crap
you mean CRAP ?
must be the suspension setup..must be better than lancer..
and much better than altis and civic
civic suck… very geram with civic and satria boy…. always wanna cucuk me coz my car look sporty… Oh.. kamon la.. i drive peugeot la wei.. not evo… why u want to cucuk big sedan like me… i only play with accord and camry la.. go cucuk other car la… dem…
the world of suspension tuning is really wide for ordinary people to comprehend bro…let alone spring change, even the bushing stiffness change, the viscosity of the fluid inside the damper, the damper inner mechanism, the suspension travel and a lot more can change the vehicle handling.being trained by lotus, i fully confident p1 engineer gonna made this car a lot better than the current lancer in term of r&h..(and yes i already test-drive the lancer before n the handling was not up to standard)
whatever lotus did, i’m sure part of the deal involves mitsubishi gaining the lotus input on their lancer as well…
ACCORDING to Top Gear The Current Best Handling Car in World today is R35 GTR 2nd is Mits Evolution 10, if u watched Top gear BBC la. but i dont think current lancer as good as evo 10 though
but nissan GTR and EVO are 4wd car right?
Best handling cars does not mean it is the best in ride quality.
What the point of being the ‘best handling’ if you got a ‘pogo stick’ ride quality.
Proton is actually pretty good in balancing both ride & handling.
to buy it though, burns a big hole in our tiny pocket.
u need to know that NISSAN GTR R35 handling is tuned by Lotus… See… Lotus rules the world….
yeah mitsu WILL ciplak lotus’s ride&handling technology, shame on the big company.
simply means Proton use local made rubber bushings, and short-lifespan absorbers.
havent’ we been conned enough by Proton already?
You must be current Mitsu Lancer owner hehehe. I pity you bro. But I guess, you must have that japan rubber bushings and long-lifespan absorbers though. And you must be very happy on that..
undercarriage and suspension re-designed by lotus. expecting good stuff from them soon..
“handling by lotus” doesn’t mean the suspension is changed to new system. sometimes it could be just ‘re-tuned’. but I believe the lotus ‘magic’ would bring this car into cult status in Malaysia. remember Satria GTi… ?
yup that is the mitsubishi cyborg rebadge.
“handling by lotus” = drool
i also remember proton juara. mitsubishi town box rebadge. they forgot to put the lotus ‘magic’.
dear RAF: mana lu pergi.. during juara area proton not own lotus… lg pun dulu zaman mahalel sekarang zaman dsz
bye bye cvic and altis, you both are too slow at corners so excuse me!
bye bye walan! as we cruise past you on the long and straight PLUS while you wait for the AAM breakdown service, good luck in this balik kampung traffic.
waja lancer is not out yet , you must be too desperate to see it!
how come desprate, the original lancer is already on the road.
waja lancer is definitely suitable for ah beng. hehe.
& the ah beng part providers will definitely happy suck your money out.
poor ah beng, only manage to buy pirate lancer.
hahahaha. kasihan betul.
macperhson front n back. No multilink at back. cheaper that way.
haihhhh….people who buy it sure change the rear badge and the front grille to mitsubishi..
some people = yes
most people = no
and? a lot myvi kancil alza viva out there has changed their badge to toyota…. who cares??
adusss.. ni mmg sebijik lancer nih. rugi aku beli lancer ni thn lepas. toing…
Dont worry iwan Mitsubishi is always mitsu! U cant deny it. I can vouch that your ori mitsu will have 90% better performance in all aspect than what the proton built.
Except the handling…hahaha
do you reli think that proton have a better handling than mitsu? dream on !!!!!!!
u dream la… poor mitsu lancer owner..
its lotus ride&handling brother, go google it! hahahhaa!!!
Talking about stock to stock… Seriously i think p1 handling are more better…
in IRC, proton is better than Mitsu.. Proton always memang dengan mitsu,… and, dont talk about evo…. that is not lancer…
dude, u seriously have no knowledge do u? the ride&handling tech from lotus used in proton cars is considered among the best in world. better than mitsu included. after this, xdehal weh nak cilok2 on malaysian terrain. ^^
yup, coz when you think about it, no reason for mitsu to kacau their own rice bowl by giving proton the exact same car for so much less.
…unless even Mitsu thinks that Malaysians are willing to pay that much more for the exact same car, just to avoid buying a Proton.
As long as it looks like a Mitsu nobody cares.
I wonder if this car install a high end turbo charger in it?
yeah…. pls put the new turbo engine in it.
no..it got 1.8l engine from Mitsubishi too..
NEVER..
Sure but it comes with a few pre-requisites
1) Owner must buy a used unit without warranty
2) Owner should not be able to afford a true Evolution
3) Owner loves playing punk on the road
4) Owner needs to pay cash for turbo-charged options
Not a chance.
1 thing for sure, those bumpers will have [WTS] tag all over the place once been sold to Ah Bengs. Haha
in lowyat.net? hahaha.
pardon me if i’m wrong, but wouldn’t it void warranty? and you still need to send this car to Proton service center for maintenance during the whole warranty period, right?
feel sad for real lancers’ owners, i know proton got a deal wif mitsu but still feel not right. new waja is 95% mitsu lancer :(. there will be no special abt lancer anymore.
there’s nothing special about Lancer from the 1st place.
i cant agree u more.. lolz
yeah.. lancer owner also modi their car, so they can called it evo x…
Dont be sad bro, perodua still mother of all rebadge LOL..
Whatever it is..I like the design eventhough it is rebadge..
If you got more money just buy another car..
But I am stillllllllllll wonder, the price of this New Wajavolution?
I am heard CEO proton said in tv, the price will be competitive?
Competitive comparing to Mitsu Lancer, City or Vios?
below rm80k for 1.8l..still competitive
Perodua is a mother of all rebadge? Actually, Toyota owns Perodua n Daihatsu. And GM owns Chevy, Suzuki, Opel, Vauxhall, Holden, Daewoo etc etc etc etc…… Rebadging? Not a bad thing at all. It depends on their market. You want Passo but there’s only Myvi on the s/room? Tukar badge Toyota je la…. Even Ah Beng doing their own rebadging. Proton wif Mitsu badge. Kelakar kan?
My friend juz got back from Japan 1 day. And he told me that some of Boon/Passo’s owners love the look of our Myvi instead of Boon/Passo. Guest what, they’ve convert them into Myvi. Kind of interesting eh?
It happen all over the world la brother….. Tak payah la nak kutuk2 orang kita sendiri. That’s why Malaysian susah nak maju.
No offence……
“The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence” SYNDROME.
what special about lancer?
it just normal car right?
yes, it is.. except 1 thing…
the price is abnormal… for a normal car… hahaha….
so, change to lancer evo turbo!
totally unchanged, probably frony bumper and rear bumper alter the rest remain same, proton waja lancer will flow malaysia road in no time, Mitsubishi (FAKE) soon will more than T&H on the road
yeah, this car at RM75k will be more value-for-money instead of Toyota, Honda & Kia
how can fake maa.. the have deal
how can fake maaa.. they have a deal remember
maybe 2.0 4B11
It will sell like hot cakes again..
NICE!! i want buy
a sad day for current Mitsu Lancer owner.
their car value will drop signficantly to a level the same as proton.
and their car will be hot stuff for thieves looking to strip off the car for Mitsu parts as demand will be high.
Why steal when u can buy from half cut shop? But if gomen continue to ban used parts as earlier as 2011, expect this thing to happen.
a sad day for mitsu lancar owner but a good day for me if the price is below 80k
yah maybe the polis evo car will be next target :-)
One person’s pain = other person’s gain
why sad? just diff rm30k-40k in price.. better than bmw… cbu and ckd have abig gap in price…
Can’t blame Lancer owners, many drivers have dream and waited for the moment to own a real Mitsubishi instead of previous Wira which some chap buat syiok sendiri by taking out the P logo and replacing it with the M logo and make believe that they are driving a M, so it came to our shores and people were like grabbing them as if they were ‘hello kitty’ during the time when mcD sold them. So orders were placed and some even waited for 1 donkey year for it.
Now being re-badge is an arrow through their ego and heart, after all the effort to promote and make proud of themselves as Lancer owners.
this new waja is exactly the same with the current lancer..i bet >80% of those who buy this car would modify it,make it more of mitsubishi..lalalala
So so typical here, just making believe that we are using some other name instead we are not. Can’t blame us, the price of cars in M is totally sky high, so it makes an average joe still can’t afford other makes.
that why now MMC discount up to RM4.5K for new lancer gt… to MMC i think with this waja will launch soon better u give now for the new lancer gt discount up to RM10K, maybe people will consider to buy ori lancer gt compare to new waja. That will be so competative with new waja if they use same engine (4B11).
Now people will think 2 3 kali to buy new lancer because:
1) new waja will launch next month..
2) second value of lancer gt.. very scare..
3) interest bank more than other japan model..
So, MMC must take some action to counter back.. TQ
they will stop selling lancer, only bring evo 10 here.
Mitsu have no worry, obviously mitsu cooperate with proton maa..
if mitsu worry, why they sold the design & collaborate with proton?
think twice bro hehehehehe LOL
agreed..
m cooperate with p. its win2 situations. maybe M gain profit more then selling lancers in Malaysia by sold their lancer to P before new lancer come out. who knows… .. .
just pity lancer owner..huhu.
maybe that’s where 1st fully imported 500 units Waja Lancer came from or Limited Edition Waja Lancer will have 4b11 engine… hahaha
Proton is performing well. Can we lower the trade barrier now?
only if P1 & P2 manage to export 1 million car per year like thailand.
u r right MoFaz, it’s hopeless………….
in your dreams maybe
sure can… when we sleep…
i hope the price is less than rm100k.also i think i had seen this car at bkt beruntung but there are tape at bumper,tail lamp and grill
The price is around RM80k +++ for 1.8.
Yes currently 80% Lancer, CKD from Mitsu. Our local vendor only produced small parts.
Later the % will increase.
Proton got 2 more models to launch. Just wait for Exora-CVT and Persona-R
RM 8O.K +++, COMPETATIVE ? It should be around 70k. and manual .
Ya, Below RM70k better, bcos a lot of parts need to change….. protn bank interest always high, hopefully this car have lower loan interest offered? 2.98% Pa?
rm70k also can.. but with campro cps 1.6… people still will buy, why? coz only people who visit paultan is care about big engine… people out there is diff.. if have 1.6,1.8,and 2.0…. They will choose 1.6.. why? COZ they only drive 80-110kmh… and use ron 95…. no need turbo engine, no need supercharged, no need 17inch rims…. no need racing clutch…. Waja also have 1.8 variance before, but still people buy 1.6 till 1.8 has been phased out form production… why? is waja 1.8 is a bad car? no la… current Satria Neo s2000 using waja 1.8 engine….. People like Forte 1.8 more than Forte 1.6, but still poeple buy more Forte 1.6 than forte 1.8.. Correct me if i’m wrong….
huge dream actualy!
If later on the Mitsu parts is reduced, does that mean the price will go down as well? Coz less imported parts right?
Forte is same 2.0L 4B11 engine if no mistakes, here most ppl buy 2.0L… From the photos i will said Waja lancer looks better from exterior “with bodykits”…. Forte got 6 air bags!!! P1 can give how many? 2 only?
if the waja gives u 2 airbags, i bet u’ll say “what? only 2 meh?”
if the waja gives u 12 airbags, u will say “why so many aaa???”
forte, why do u need 6 airbags??? hmm… guess the car itself is not safe to be driven, huh?? hahaha….
air bags did not prevent death, dude!! what a silly question!!
a turning point for proton it self?
Are they competing in the same market segment? So price Mitsu Lancer will drop?
Mitsubishi have study first before they release to Proton, are you remember the proton wira ? Mitsubishi got a lot of money, even they share with proton.
cant wait to see it in real world..
nice man!! looks like better built in quality than any proton previous car
I quite like the design of this Waja, price should be around the same as current Waja I hope.
nope, persona already very close to current waja price. if this waja lancer is priced within the same bracket, it will jeopardize persona sales. most probably is around Kia Forte price, or within 75-100k
u r right MoFaz, i think 100k is a good idea, lets see how they compete
It comes with 4B10 engine.
4B10 engine is Mitsubishi 1.8 litre. Pity those existing Lancer GT owners with 2.0 engine. Paid RM 126K last time. Yet, waha replacement will be sold around RM 75 to 85K.
4b10 got mivec ah?
omg … another wira for 15 years….for a company who’s been in the biz for 28 years they r still rebadging mitsubishis?
who cares, as long as fit malaysian taste. yummy
Go learn your history boy. Go ask uncle google to know why they want to exchange platform.
Wow, one rebadge and so many people howling like dingos. Saga BLM, Persona, Exora, Savvy, Satria Neo.. all original stuff, not rebadged Mitsubishi stuff, and people trash like crazy. Proton brings in the Lancer to rebadge as a part of Mitsu deal (that will no doubt benefit Proton’s quality and competence in the long run as well), and everyone hentam also. Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. I won’t blame automakers for not understanding our local market!
Yeah Proton Wira just sucks IMO.
I guess proton is targeting those buyers who loves re badge cars. Like those Wira owners who turned to buy MYvi’s.
“These” people has identity crisis anyway…
It’s Waja…bukan Wira! Although the fact they ‘still’ doing rebadge but let’s just wait for it to come out first b4 we judge it, who knows it might be value for money rather than spend it over current Lancer?! No wonder no one being crazy over Evo 10. Simply many people buy Lancer GT then morph it to Evo, now it’s gonna gets worst…soon, Jalan Horsepower at Sunway will be flooded with Waja that morph to either Lancer GT or Evo 10. Kakimotor sure happy wan! ;-)
he said,
“model itu mempunyai bentuk seakan model salah satu model Jepun terkenal, Mitsubishi Lancer”
hopefully, Proton will change the tail light. not only the minor changes.
Yup…Want to rebadge also at least do a bid more work…
i actually hope proton would touch nothing (well maybe some bits on the interior, i reckon they can do R&D on handlebrake levers, gearknobs, steering & the ICE :P ), but have the lotus guys pep-up the handling & work their magic on the motor!
the R3 guys can come up with a better looking bodykits & other kinds of tune-up bits as well.
{ prays }
oh look…..a proton lancer……bwhahahahah
Mitsubishi Lancer + Proton Waja = Mitsuton Lanja.
Proton Waja + Mitsubishi Lancer = Proshi Wacer
Can’t resist:
Proton LAWA (LAncer + WAja )
:lol: :lol:
Seems like most buyers will get it rebadged to Mitsubishi instead.
The Wajalution era is back…!!!
A mere mention of stick-shift transmission make this thing 10 times more interesting.
Thats exactly what i looking for too .. a stick shift Lancer in Malaysia.. woohoo!!
with all the problematics thrown in as well
This is really a GREAT SHAME to M’sia! How come after 25 yrs of “COPYING” Japanese Technology, they can’t even develope a car, which is totally designed & manufactured in M’sia!
Shall we compare M’sia to East TImur one day?
Who support Proton, is supporting such attitudes.
so angry nampak…you buy lancer already aaa
i’m not sure where have you been in the past 25 years..welcome back to malaysia mate!
Typical bashers will always be typical bashers,they even know nothing about automotive industry,simply talk without facts.
Even Peugeot and Citroen rebadge Mitsu’s car,you should wait when Mitsubishi rebadge Exora and Persona.
Pity to the bashers,no wonder this country cannot go further,not because of the gov,but because of the useless mind of certain Malaysian like you.
Companies like Holden also done the samething,they were in this industry for more than 100 years,but nowadays they just rebadging Chevrolet’s car.I know Holden and Chevrolet are under GM.
This is all about saving cost and time,what can I say stupid bashers know nothing about automotive industry,you should wait when they introduce new Persona and EMAS.
Project emas already canceled, get real ok?
PROTON already got another way better emas design n their ceo promised 2 lunch emas on erly 2012~
mitsu wants persona & exora chasis from proton
then proton ask for lancer chasis
deal
Who said it’s cancelled? If you don’t have proof don’t just accuse unknowingly.
where, how, when, why, who???
Proof of GTFO.
Emas cancelled?
Haha,damn another typical basher.
Prove it,people can just simply talk crap.
You’re the one who should get real,OKAY!
prove it..
[Citation needed]
:roll:
yup all the great world-beating malaysians have left the country so all that is left is malaysians like us. suck it up!
other brands rebadge and compete in an open market, can you say the same about proton? life is too short too so why wait for proton, who think they will need another lifetime of protection before they want to compete. proton ada gaya but not much else as is the way in malaysia these days.
You bet.
When other companies except for Holden rebadge cars from their competitors, it is meant to be a technology exchange and program. I share my know how and you share yours.
Proton-Mitsubishi on the other hand is pretty much one way. That is why some commentators are mad about proton. A good example of rebadging is:
Youngman Lotus joint venture between Zhejiang Jinhua-based Youngman Auto and Lotus Engineering. The purpose of the partnership was to sell Lotus engineered Proton models in China.
This Proton Lancer is not so much about exchanging knowledge, it is all about capturing lost market to foreign makes such as Kia, Honda, and Toyota.
Then what about the exchange of Persona & Exora to be rebadged as Mitsubishi? It’s hardly a one way street.
agreed citreon, peugeot or maybe a lot more company rebadging.. but i dont think any will rebadge anything that already in the market.. and keep selling two simillar item with two different name.. what ever it is.. lets pray for the better.. we all here have our portion in proton as a tax payer.. all of us want proton to be better one day.. and we can proudly drive proton.. lets don’t make fun of any lancer owner.. they r driving a good machine.. and now proton r launching the lancer rebadge waja and give opportunity for those who unaffordable to buy lancer to drive the same machine with low price.. so y do we make fun of this original lancer owner?? lets share the road guys.. if mitsu n proton can cooperate each other, y not we proton driver n mitsu driver cooperate n share idea!! 1 malaysia guyzz
Rebadge people car is a simple job.. to to rebadge it and add value is not an easy job… you have to make sure you make the car better than it original.
Holden has the volume, they mean to live. P1, we have less than 500K unit a year…for all model…is P1 still relavent after 25 years?
In others brand, one model can sell more than 1 mio pcs for 1 life cycle…
The hope that can put on to P1 is below:
1) Emas…city car for tomorrow mobility.
2) Exora… with turbo in, a real car for malaysian, big size of family… and good to hear that it sell well in Thailand.
3) Lancer rebadge with Lotus tech…got to be better than lancer GT!
Come on lar ,yes holden did rebadge gm car but they olso develop a few car that are quite impressive The 04 GTO ring a bell ??? ,yes psa does joint venture with mitsu but they redevelope it with better body design and their interior trim .when u see our NEW WAJA its rather pathetic ,it only spot a new bumper and that it.our beloved proton only know how to use excuse only ,look at hyundai ,they started almost the same as proton and see where are they now .
The reason why only the front grill and part of the back is different from the current mitsu is due to the request of mistu themselves. it was part of the agreement!!!
proton is more than capable of redesigning a mistu.. they have build a few models from scratch.. redesigning is a small matter to them
what with your nick?
Well mate….., even Holden rebadge their cars from other company, and how old is Holden already…?
yup, proton been copycat not the first time already………sad man, the top gear sure say malaysia bad thing again….zzz
these basher are crap. do some googling or wiki’ng before you even speak. why can’t an automaker have a deal between they for a win-win situation? How you call Ford fiesta? rebadge Mazda2? since mazda2 came here 1st? you condemned proton when they sucks, you condemned them again when they try to improve.
If you must criticize, do it sensibly and don’t bash blindly.
i don’t know that you notice this.
but when you see lancer gt & persona/gen2 parking side by side you will notice that the design of the door/back door are same. and the design of the meter are a bit similar…
don’t you notice that?
cant wait for the official announcement……..might be my second car if change job
change job, invest your money in something else and then buy your car. i think that is better.
damn it proton.
just change that ugly rear light
dont worry datuk karpal, kedai abang’s will make all accesories for new available within 6 months of launch. taillamp kaa, side skirts, front bumper, spoilers…. etc etc.
see how good is our country wealth distribution is…proton make money..kedai abg also make money.. :-)
Beauty in the eyes of beholder.
To me the read light is simply attractive.
awal bulan depan?
well..
The glorious Proton Wira @ Lancer era returns!
Be prepared to have yet another 15 years of rebadged Lancers on our roads!
Budak2 keje kilang geng wira lancer tonggek pasti teruja! Kopek itu logo proton!
Mitsubishi emblems will sell like hot cakes!
Isn’t this like taking a step behind? After designing their own cars since 2000, 10 years later back to rebadging? malu lah woi! ee malu!
I seriously can’t understand the people who disagree with this re-badging mitsubishi cars. Please tell us why are you disagreeing and dont just click the red button. The fact is Proton is going backwards as a Manufacturer !
Stick with the facts dear readers !
U still don’t know what are the profits will gain from rebadging eh?
then do you think the profit of selling EMAS will be higher than the WAJA replacement model ? think before you write .. The Management should have asked Guigiaro to design the Waja Replacement Model instead of a EMAS which i am sure will never be as important as the WAJA
PERODUA..
15yrs ago rebadging..
10yrs ago rebadging..
5yrs ago rebadging..
now.. rebadging..
5yrs later rebadging..
10yrs later rebadging..
15yrs later rebadging..
forever… rebadging..
Correct ! Proton Perodua same same
I supposed another mitsu lancer owner perhaps?
pakai myvi ke?
he guys!! who are jap wannabes… ready for this hot..
Should buy this one or not?
i feel shame for Proton… again another xerox of Mitsubishi model! with the technology and westerm designer from Lotus yet they still cannot come out with their own design and technology!
same goes to peug n citr..even worst
Why are you basher are so thick minded. Proton already have the capabilities to design and produce their own car. In term of knowledge they are already there. This move is just to increase proton revenue due to the cost savings involve in exchanging platform.
When proton is making loss the basher will ask for proton to close. But when they want to make profit you guys feel a shame. Typical mentality of Malaysian.
Satan
You have been sleeping in hell, haven’t you? Proton’s own design products are the Exora, Saga BLM, Satria Neo, Savvy. What do mean they still cannot come out with their own design and technology? You know what you are mumbling about or not, satan?
Exora? Persona? Satria Neo? Savvy? Not their own designs? One rebadge and everyone is howling like this announcement will make your stock investments nosedive or something…
u think design a car like design a moon cake meh!!
Yes its very difficult to design a car and it took proton 10 years to think .. oh it will be better to re badge a Mitsubishi instead of designing one ourself .. Lets waste the money designing a SAVVY yucks ……
then the other stupid move was to get an establish company to design the EMAS .. its a good car but shouldn’t Proton ask them to design the WAJA replacement model .. i think in business wise the WAJA replacement should be Proton Core model and should put more resources into it rather than wasting the money on a small car like EMAS .. out there when their core model is not establish .. who will want to buy the EMAS !
If the pricing is right this car might just be the next big thing in Malaysia.
i wonder how they implant lotus into mitsu?….so its like white guy + japs girl… = marie digby.. :p
i wonder when can see view the car?
it says it will have a soft launch next month…meaning that can start booking, but the car delivery will start on november??am i right?/
wonder2.. all mitsubishi lancer owner will trade in their car??
lancer GT value will go down? i doubt so. they have 2.0 engines with ‘6 speed’ CVT, 18inch alloys. its time we buy the used ones! this lancer is not new, its almost 3 years already in world market. the replacement lancer could be 2 years away.
proton should have rebadged another great looking car than this boxy lancer..
i wonder does Mitsubishi realise the impact on its Lancer sales volume once waja replacement hits the market? or Mitsubishi no longer care?
i don think mitsu will rugi….since proton must pay komisyen to mitsu..rather sale in low volume with own brand better just rebadge to brand that surely increase sale plus they will cost them nothing..smart move..built nothing but income is coming
Aiyah… the Msia market is too small for Mitsubishi… Who knows, Mitsubishi may make bigger $$$ from the loyalty instead.. hahaha…
Mitsubishi no longer able to push their Lancer forward. Too expensive for hot blooded youngster, too hot for many of those who can afford.
design by Mitsubishi
handling by Lotus
styling by UTM
business model by Perodua
quality assurance by Proton
haha, styling by UTM, classic bro
Quality assurance by Proton???
QUALITY ASSURANCE by PROTION.. that’s already a DISASTER !!!
this will turn a BMW into a crap… hahaha
how about a CVT transmission??
DCVVT??
CVT sucks anyway. no physical gears = no fun.
CVT sucks.. mmm.. wonder why the new facelift Toyota Corolla is using CVT (Super CVT-i) ???
because only old man, ppl with no taste, or a boring person buys Corolla Altis.
hell, it’s ‘Super CVT-i 7 gears’ is not even a physical gear. its a virtual gear.
CVT with virtual gears = slow “gearchange” = no fun.
well of course, CVTs weren’t designed for having fun. but IMO they suck.
unless the CVT box responses very fast, it’ll be fun.
CVT will not be felt responsive as standard auto transmission. it will defeate the purpose.
still like old skool style manual gearbox… love a peugeot 405 with turbo engine and then use manual gearbox from ciroen xantia diesel… its a mabeles combination u know… love old style bmw e30 manual gearbox…. love mercedes w123 manual gearbox…. i’ve drive many modern car with manual gearbox… yes, they are easy to use, faster, but not feel SOLID anymore.. just like missing something…. mbe coz i like the old skool style… mbe other people like the new tech… but for me, the old style is the best… i’m not saying that the old style manual is better, i know the latest tech is better… but the ‘fun’ is not there anymore… About automatic gb, i don’t want to say anything, coz i’m not the type who use auto gb…. that type is just not for me…
so go buy kancil la bro.. it much fun any way.. hahah
The reader nxid still think this model is ‘RENDERING’……..come on la……never read properly
wow…you dragged the issue from the old post till now?
ok…since you drag it…..
your comment on post RENDERING: Lancer-based Proton Waja replacement model
“Looks like proton waja is a mixture of designs from Lancer / Volvo……….proton no engineer to design own car? However, the looks is one issue, how about the quality later?”
how can you make a comment about the design when the actual car are taped? because what you see is just are rendering from TC. for your information the picture below the video is a rendered picture from TC and the pictures after the jump is actual pictures which actually quite different from what TC has rendered.
Nxid still dreaming……..please stick it to yourself. No energy to talk to you. Please read other article as well.
how much do u guys think the price will be?
more expensive than persona/waja CPS, top spec will be in vios/city range.
a little lower then the new perdana price before
I just hate it when Proton tried to imitate Lancer. It will only spoil Mitsubishi branding. Next time no point buying the real Lancer, coz later people will still say that you bought Proton Waja. What a disappointment. Hey Proton, why dont you try to imitate BMW? Or Mercedes instead? Come out with your own design la… since you guys a so good in your R&D. Thanks, you just spoil the market.
another sore current lancer user..on your face mate!
and 4agze .. you are the sore looser which thinks Proton is doing a good job !
and ballon .. you are the sore looserESTSS if u thinks Proton is not doing a good job !(sori just rebadge from your statement)…and i think its better…
blame mitsubishi!
try see mitsubishi persona on the road soon..
a sad day for mitsu lancar owner but a good day for me if the price is at 80k – 90k,
just curious why some malaysian hate this new proton, it a good thing that we had a good option for our buying power, or we should start to do everything by our self, no more foreign tech, everything must be done, start from scratch; pride is good, but to much pride is stupid
They did imitate BMW and gave us the Waja. :P
This is not copy, this is rebadge.
another mitsu lancer owner’s comment…hahahaha
Hahaha! Sore Lancer owner?
brader, If proton imating Mitsu, they will be fined. Looking at the case 150% Proton will lose & fined like millions RM. Jap not moron one. We called this learning, sharing technology, JV or whatsoever.
Dont tell us u sleep for the past 20 years? FYI the world experiencing economic turmoil & some of the mega corporation gulung tikar. Currency speculator, 9/11, banking scandal, just for your info one of recent olympic host is having a real serious financial crisis.
Everyone knows that proton is not designing all of thier model. and some of their product kinda crap (mind my language). And most of us know that local version of existing model is not entirely cool.
Dont u know how much investment is required to a car? And do u know how big MY market? how long proton can reach the breakeven point? Proton can design thier own car but they may face financial problem later.
Think economic la bro. Bear with them. Patriotic la sikit
now i’m interested, keep it up proton!
Yup, keep it up copying other car…lol
Sekali pandang,Proton Walan memang dicopy terus dari Lancer. Tak perlu reka reka…..tukar badge sahaja…
Mitsubishi really has no Respect for current Lancer owners….sigh…awful…
i can smell a lancer owner..lol
you must be a kancil owner
jom beli peugeot…
That’s the reason I don’t buy M. Lancer when it was first launch. I heard rumors that it’s going to be a Waja replacement from some engineers. Now it’s realized. Current M. Lancer sure sakit hati
later got mistsubishi owners change badge to proton coz proton lancer is much better in ride n handling, why not?
business world…..better high volume rebadge rather than low small volume with own brand..money still come
respect?? mitsu respect proton maa that why the hv the deal
this is not about respect for who buy a rm100k++ car.. this is about billions of rm…. see what happen to Ralliart… close oredi.. this show os that mitsu need mofre money.. lagi kesian kalau mitsubishi bankrupt…. waktu tu orang lansung x pandang evo.. lancer lagi la… lagi kesian kat lancer owner waktu tu… resale value jatuh merudum… sparepart semua kena pakai third party punya… apa mau cerita???
i support proton but (humbly n personally) opined and feel as if its a step backwards since proton have come up with good designs lately all on their own. I don’t understand the move. But then again… i’m not in the car selling business just a lowly consumer.
Proton is shfiting its focus to new Persona 2011 and lack of fund for WRM but it cant wait another 5 years to replace current Waja which is where this rebadge comes about. So, i think instead of step backwards, Proton is actually step forward by making right move for their business. As for mitsu, Lancer cant compete with T and H brand due to its brand recognition in Malaysia, so this rebadge is actually a good deal for Mitsu although at some extend, it hurts the feeling of current Lancer owner.
i get what u mean. To me (n maybe its just me) proton doesn’t have to design one model after the next. U can design the models concurrently. Have different teams designing different segments altogether. since the persona is a sedan u can adapt waja name for a crossover based on the already available exora platform (thus cutting down on expenditure). that is a segment proton has yet to enter.
back or forward… from my persepective… from years consulting on design n branding… this venture may be good for the coffers but bad for the brand. Already people are thinking of puting a mitsu-evo brand to this future waja.
every car manufacture tries to be something to the market yet its the market that labels them for what they are. T&H are great for the family/executive with sedans n mpvs… Mitsu performance cars in evo n the 4X4 pajeroes… Suzuki n diahatsu for small cars… but they all still have a whole range of other models in their respective stables.
where does the pride go when u sell a car and the buyer thinks to want to label it as something else. I just KNOW proton can do better than this.
Waja came out in 2000 and are you saying they have never planned for a waja replacement before .. every car manufacturer knows that they have to plan for a replacement once a new model launches !
So this means proton is never going forward
I don’t think Proton have enough resources to work on the replacement. After Waja, they came out with Gen-2, which fared badly. Then they worked on Savvy. Even worse. Then they had to scramble with Persona & the new Saga to recover from the two uhmm… un-savvy projects.
After that, they only have enough time/resources to work on one project: either an MPV or Waja replacement. They chose the MPV, thus short cut is required for the Waja replacement.
In business, you have to get real. I’m glad they get real :-) If not, it will be another round of bail-out. :-(
Well said. But I don’t think the problem with Lancer is the brand but the design of it. Too sporty for many family oriented.
i dunno why, but even young people also did not buy lancer.. they will go for civic….
all because of the resale value
but power wise lancer is have the advantage
once my friend own civic 2.0 want to test power le ngan my friend new lancer gt
he lost by 1 & half door/1 door distance even after 3 time.
they all using auto gear mode not pedal shift.
I’m actually on the same page with you bro..but in an industry where business strategy is equally important as technology, this move is inevitable..as an example, lotus is well known for its ride handling and feather weight technos, but uncoupled with the right business direction, it is suffering. Thats what i think P1 is trying to do to saveguard both itself and Lotus and its a smart move too..
LOLX… i would buy Mitsubishi Lancer instead of buying this Malaysia product
later will have more cheap spec Police Helang on road. and fate Evo kekeke…..
the exhaust nozzle looks big and just single instead of double..supposed the engine will be the same mivec engine on current lancer..
Yup, the same thing i saw. This was shown on 4th September 2010 (Saturday morning) TV3’s Nightline at 12.00am. They also mention the engine will be based on the previous model, does that mean the previous Lancer’s engine, so we’ll be getting an old tech Mitsu engine as usual? Soft launch October. Lol.
This rebadge thing typically reminds me of the Wira based on the GSR Evo3. IMO, this should be the Wira Replacement model since both are rebadging model. I wonder what name has the proton team chosen from the competition which was opened only to their employees.
Pitty those owning a Mit. Lancer… it looks almost the same from the picture.. but pretty sure Mits. spare part business will be very good especially the sales of the bumper and the grille and their logo.. all those wannabe will just buy a Proton Lancer and retrofit it.. hhaha..
i cannot wait to change my Mitsubishi Logo on my Lancer to Proton
Don’t forget the sales of halfcuts.. for those “4G93 terbalik” and “4G63 terbalik” units that haven’t really taken off in the current crop of Gen2, Waja and Persona owners yet.. The days of Wiralution and Wajalution is back with a mighty vengeance. Hopefully it will force the other Jap (and Korean) players to buck up and price their cars realistically (Altis 2.0 for over RM130k, anyone?) instead of taking the local consumers for granted.
no big differences between this car n current lancer lor
ps-i hope my eyes tricks me
its just a copy from mitsubishi lancer, consumer now can own a cheaper version of lancer gt. wonder if still have a buyer for original lancer gt, coz this version make the real one downgraded?
yes…cant wait to check this babe out in the market…….
i like everything about the new waja…except the tail lamp…..damn ugly, if i gonna get one, i’ll change that lamp to aftermarket one………hail to LED tail lamp..,wahahaha
This new replacement model for WAJA will last for another 10~18yrs & they will keep on producing till the mould damage & repair again & still produce.
What do u think?
yea…. at the middle of the period, no, not to long, there will gonna be lancer, ops..new waja taxis….
adios!
I like your nick. I bet if Juara was a Toyota the masses would lap it up.
Lancer was on top of my list when it was launched in 2007. I ended up buying other model from other marque. And I regretted for not buying Lancer. But now I no longer regret that. In fact I am relieved that I dodged a bullet.
I think your assumption is, how shall we say, “bollocks”, sir.
Proton’s Waja/Lancer is also meant for EXPORT as a part of their deal with Mitsubishi.
finally new engine coming in. 1.8L maybe..
y there is no LED lights for rear lamp??
Man, this is going to pull down Lander GT’s prices tremendously! Why can’t Proton do a Protonised Civic or Forte instead? Now lots of Waja will be modded like Lancer GT and we can’t tell the differences no more, exteriorly! I wonder if they would get the more robust Mitsubishi gear or the current GT’s more lady-like ones.
Ya, just like Proton Waja Lancer, wouldn’t it be cool to have Proton Waja CIvic? But in reality this would not happen. We already have Honda Malaysia. Cheers…
i bought the gt not knowing that proton’s doing an almost exact replica of the gt. looking at the pics, all you need are the bumpers and badges to complete the transformation, which should cost less than rm2k if bought new from mmc. if i am a new gt buyer in the market, i’ll be hard-pressed not to go for the waja gt. well-played move by proton.
rm2k? very cheap i think… coz last time i’m checking the price for tail lamp for VW GOLF GTI, the price is rm2.5k… just for the tail lamp.. huhu..
Just ask the current Lancer owner change their Mitsubishi Logo to Honda
proton rebadge rolls royce drophead coupe oso ppl will bash maaa hehehe
i can see it already.
‘poor man’s rolls-royce’
‘ 20+ years oso still rebadge arr?’
‘i hope power window is better on this one’..
hehe
does Lotus go to do with this Proton Waja Lancer type?
25 years ago when Proton started, the cars were rebadged Mitsubishi Lancers with cosmetic changes. 25 years after that, Proton has come a full circle, back to rebadged Mitsubishis with cosmetic changes and tweaked suspension (since Proton owns Lotus, it can tell Lotus to do whatever thst’s needed within Lotus’ field of expertise).
We Malaysians put up with high import duties and tolerated the crappy cars (power-window failures, fuel pump and cheap, hard plastic interior aside) that Proton produces and 25 years later we are back to square one?!
Hyundai (and Kia) are making cars that are selling like hot cakes in the US. We can’ even export our cars without making at least 200 modifications to suit safety and emission standards. And to think that Hyundai started making cars around the same time with us, having Mitsubishi as a technology partner as well.
Proton, as a National industry, you failed us all. Might as well sell-off to Volkswagen. Look at the national czech car project, skoda. A fat lot of good it did them when VW took over. Better cars, better engines (shared with VW and Audi), better built quality, bigger export market. Looks like the very same problems you people in Proton have right now.
Thanks.
jangan jadi bodoh lah! kalau tak tau study dulu. jangan tulis tak guna otak. malu orang kampung je…
Chung Ju-Yung founded the Hyundai Engineering and Construction Company in 1947. Hyundai Motor Company was later established in 1967.
South Korea’s oldest car company, Kia was founded on June 9, 1944 as a manufacturer of steel tubing and bicycle parts by hand — and has operated as one of the country’s Chaebols since. In 1952, Kia changed its name from Kyungsung Precision Industry,[9] and later built motorcycles (starting in 1957), trucks (1962) and cars (1974).
In order to develop the automobile industry, the Korean government announced the “Automobile Industry Promotion Policy” in 1962, and The Automobile Industry Protection Act to protect the infant industry. Foreign automakers were barred from operating in Korea, except in joint ventures with local business entities. The government’s efforts led to companies that were established in other businesses entering the industry, and the formation of new startups. Three companies were established in 1962:
Kyeongseong Precision Industry, which changed its name to “Kia Industry”, and started assembling cars in cooperation with Mazda in 1964;
Ha Dong-hwan Automobile Industry Co. (the predecessor of SsangYong Motor Company); and
Saenara Automobile, established with the technical cooperation of Nissan Motor Co.; it was the first automaker in Korea that was equipped with modern assembly facilities.
The Asia Motors Company was established in 1965, and the Hyundai Motor Company in 1968 with the technical cooperation of the Ford Motor Company.
However, all these companies were then merely automotive assemblers, importing parts from overseas partners.
However, Kia’s bankruptcy in 1997, part of the Asian financial crisis, resulted in 51% of the company being acquired in 1998 by South Korean rival Hyundai Motor Company,
and another piece of advise you go do your homework how much the Korean have to pay for import car.
The origins of what became Škoda Auto go back to the early 1890s
Well done,my friend.
honestly, i malas to read your story, just thumb u down
I’m not sure if any of you two use otak or not. But i still think Proton can be better and a little too behind as compared to its rivals. Any how they are putting great effort in catching up. As a Malaysian I really look forward to what Proton could offer the Malaysian in near future.
R-E-S-P-E-C-T BRO!!!
I think most Malaysian will support National make, it is the politicians that screwed up everything. They want us to drive proton but not their children due to safety issues. Just look at them, they don’t even send their children to national school and for NS.
Not to mention Proton is nothing more than a milking cow for them, they are the suppliers.
The most important thing of all is the LACK OF INITIATIVE TO MOVE FORWARD.
Nobody is asking proton to produce Mercedez quality cars, a good old reliable car with all the basic safety features + reliable parts. It is not that hard, the question is why not? To maximize profit in the name of death?
boleh kira ke brapa MP yg beli exora dan persona compare wif BMW 5 series or Merc E200??? i dont thing much
still, koreans pay less for imported cars than us, for instance, for a bmw 320i, they pay around rm135k compared to our price which is around rm236k, almost double, plus about speaking of automotive company evolution from its roots, certainly a company from the 19th century cannot be compared to one which started in the late 20th century, because of the availability and advancement of technology. in a nutshell, proton shouldn’t be relying on the government to tax imported cars ridiculously, instead they should lower their prices to achieve basic and value for money motoring,just like Korea where their local cars are really cheap’. also stop copying and pasting articles around, better if you hyperlink those webpages here, that way, we Malaysians won’t be known as a copy & paste society…
p.s. this waja lancer, in my opinion, is a good step as many automakers share their platforms or chassis and make rebadge editions of vehicles… Proton, just keep on working hard and forget about protectionism, it feels better for you and for Malaysians…
I dun agree with ur statement
” certainly a company from the 19th century cannot be compared to one which started in the late 20th century, because of the availability and advancement of technology.”
what is so good about availability and advancement of technology, if proton don’t know how to use or utilize it? Experiences matter
Did you know how the currency works ?. It’s the exchange rate same with us ?.
You have to see the exchange rate Korea vs US, RM vs US. Not Korea vs RM.
still Malaysia is the largest market for BMW and MERCEDES in southeast asia….
even so, do you think given another 200 years, our proton cars could compete in the automotive industry that time?
Woo… Bro,
Don’t get to hard on your words… People comments because they concern. If not, what for?
History is for us to learn, especially the mistakes. What state we are now is really matters to the people. The people, no matter drive P1 cars or not have been shouldering the cost of P1 since its existance, directly or indirectly. Thats why they concern.
Remember, P1 own Lotus which has decades of history in bag. All in all, dont put the blame on history. Just move forward with achievements. Or at least, give someting that ease people’s burden.
My opinion is, after 25 yrs, P1 is still making cars with almost all imported built up materials, tools and tools materials, and machinerys. These what greatly dragged P1 behind.
Why are you basher are so thick minded. Proton already have the capabilities to design and produce their own car. In term of knowledge they are already there. This move is just to increase proton revenue due to the cost savings involve in exchanging platform.
why ppl always keep writing like they no better in this world, but the truth is they no noting..
im agree wif u,if not about when the company opened up,who take over,what
happen to the world economy and everthing..
back then the tech develop in a very slow level..when proton opened in the 80s it was the egineering world including automotive world turns to be innovative by producing better quality output..so the time gap is not the issue here..proton almost 25 years cooperating with mitsu motors but im still wondering why proton dont even get near the simple mitsu “auto gear shit tech”.
then turns to lotus for that product..even the eu people thinks twice buying a lotus brand..campro engine are noisy,its will get noiser if you try to used 2 3 different engine oil,door lock,mirror motor soon wear to of,air condition (no need to say lah u all know already),gear transmission 4 level only ,timing belt always want sing..
what the used of handling by lotus if your have this much problem..
im sad for proton – after klcc,sepang klia,bakun project,the smart tunnel,the first man in the outerspace…still they copy other company car. no dignity
A long overdue yet totally exciting piece of news ! Well done proton !! Just can’t wait any longer for the launching date !!! Cheers .
Agreed..
I don’t really care wether Proton re-badge or not.. for me
what important is a great looking car, decent QA/QC (at least same as persona) and affordable price.. that’s what rakyat want..
do you seriously think that rakyat care that proton re-badge cars? hell no
for sure they’ll LOVE it
For you bashers,
keep on bashing.. say what you want to say: shame la, a step behind la, re-badge la.. sooner or later you’ll be proven wrong..
pity you!
proton pls make sure QC is the same with Lancer GT > if not you fail
Wow.. they’re not kidding.. it’s 95% identical to the Lancer GT! I guess those Lancer Evolution X bodykits should be flying off the shelves pretty soon!!
Bravo to Proton’s CEO, lately they’ve been providing the rakyat with cars that we’re excited about and waiting impatiently for the launches, and we’re actually looking forwards to future models from Proton!
gotta wonder wot’s that 5% change is meh?
tires?
wheels?
gearknob?
steering?
lightbulb?
screws?
headrest?
different spoiler?
manual gb instead of cvt?
niche rebadge as proton fanboys say, look forward to it not making a huge impact in the TIV. i just fell sorry for my friend who drive a bona fide Lancer, if i were i would sell it double quick and get something else.
as i mentioned earlier, just ask them to change their Mitsubishi Logo to Honda
woooww!
can’t wait..please put the price under 75k~~
Oh yesss, can’t wait to see the effect to the whole market… Maybe Malaysian economy will get better.
cetttt..under 65k !
y look exactly the same v lancer? should change the design a bit, escpecially rear design……. hope that the lauch of waja will not affect the sales of persona,
actually protn should stop lauching any new sedan since there were alrdy hv 2 sedan, Saga and Persona on the market which achieve the high sales every months.
Proton should start planning to renew the design for Savvy n see whether can fight with myvi or viva or not. SUV is also another type of cars which Proton sholud think of it
don’t you forget proton emas?..but probably we gonna see it in the next 5 years
still only prototype no?
emas in 2012 laaa…
suv is being developed as well, for china market (youngman)
by that time already outdated !
that Proton emas still need to wait long long time
2012 bro…LOTUS badge Emas 2011…come on PROTON!!!
i agree….
Don’t worry bro… .looking at the trend and way of Proton. Soon you will see Proton Pajero, Proton Outlander, Proton Grandis, Proton Triton, Proton FTO, Proton GTO, Proton CYborg, Proton Asti, Proton Colt, Proton Galant, Proton Delica, Proton Toppo, Proton i, Proton Pajero Mini, Proton Minica and etc old goreng balik Mitsubishi stocks. whahahah….. PROTON Boleh!……… Mitsubishi WANABE long life forever…….
Mitsubishi Owner just sad and disappointed.
good one la bearX.. 100 years to come still copy,copy n copy..by the year end tell the media proton this much profit so on and so on…tell u what,people want to buy this car because it is the same with mitsu Lancer,at the end of the day what is the function of producing car by the name of PROTON,just take the emblem and glue it to another car la,senang saja ma…. sincerely
please re-badge the GTO & make it 500kg lighter. :P
Waja should be a class above of Persona. Like City vs Civic or Vios vs Altis. Saga falls below the class of City or Vios.
was hoping that the engine will be a 1.8 or 2.0…huhuhuuu
1.8 kot…coz 2.0 is kacau’ing perdana market already…
if that so then why the gen-2 kacau the persona market meh? same cc wat?
New Perdana will get 2.4 engine meh.. kompom oredi..
I want it now !!! PROTON ROX…tis time…
its time to trade my 5yrs old gen2…cant wait 4 the launchin.
my gen2 4years old…anyone interested to buy? hehehe..or proton will do exchange campaign ?
Me too, im driving a 5yr old Waja now. time to let go for this waja lancer. Hope the price is less than 70k
hope Proton complete it withPHOENIX PROJECT engine, campoTurbocharger direct injection , 6 Speed Getrag Gearbox menual,cps or CVVT system on air intakes valves, and CVT gearbox auto…..congratulation ceo proton..nice job
More likely to have a ZF 6HP series 6-speed auto transmission somewhere down the line.. Probably a ZF unit that’s produced as a JV with Proton and not an existing design, like how the 4HP16 was a result of JV between ZF and GM-Daewoo.
the only thing unknown is the engine.. if fitted with 1.6 campro wonder if suit the weight of the body.. hope that the price range is right because wrong pricing can cause buyer to opt for 2nd hand lancer GT instead..
some lancer in singapore is 1.5 engine
Definitely not 1.6 Campro. Campro 1.3 & 1.6 are for their lower-segment cars like Saga, Persona, Gen 2, etc.
For the Waja replacement, Perdana replacement, etc. they’ll definitely use higher-capacity engines (likely to be licensed from Mitsubishi), and later on, the Phoenix engine. Heard that Proton ain’t so keen on Renault powertrains and engines anymore after their so-so capabilities in the Waja 1.8 and Savvy.
“Crap!” said the lancer owner
“Yippie!” said the other lancer owner.. now they can buy cheaper Proton parts to fit their CBU Lancer GT
The owner of the original Lancer is gonna feel bored now that it will be common on the road.
now everyone can drive mitsu lancer…not for just crap rich n famous only..just like airasia tagline
proton now becoming perodua all over again…
Use same chassis but with different body so it doesn’t look like Lancer.
if the price is right, why not?
why bother?
Mmm… Proton seem to follow Naza that re-badged the Forte. No different between Kia Forte and Naza Forte, just the badge different. Sigh… now Proton is doing the same.
P2, at least some design changes eg Perodua Myvi vs Daihatsu Boon
Which design that u mentioned?styling design or engineering design? is the new waja is rebadge as Forte ? i don’t think so. there are a lot of engineering work to be done on new waja. not as Forte or Myvi. they only change badge, bumper. don’t make joke here.
perodua rebadge all the toyota/daihatsu cars…atleast proton is exchange the platform with mitsu..proton get lancer and direct injection tech AND Mitsu get Exora and the new persona…
hopefully auto version sell at 80k
Proton said prices will remain competitive. Hopefully it’s below Rm75k full specs for auto.
Very similar to Theophilus rendering. Which came first, the rendering or the car :P?
So a Campro CPS engine in it for the manual transmission as well?
same??? wth, it’s totally diff. theopilus got it wrong! see the front-end.
You blind brah ? The front end is sooooooo close to the real thing. And there’s no such thing as he got it right or wrong cause he is only meshing up these renderings based on what he thinks the car MIGHT look like. If you’re any better why not you show us how your rendering looks like.
not similar at all, the one that with similar front end render are from bro [email protected]
the one that make by bro campromania are the one that similar…
the new waja will use the new mitsu engine la’…hopefully 4B11…
This is awesome. Now waiting for theopilus chin for the newest render based on this.
p.s : I can smell basher is on the way. *wink
After 25 yrs, going back to Day1 of re-badge.
Are we satisfy with this? or may proton just become a trader better (sure makes more money than now) instead of car manufacturer (at least no need take money from G for the R&D fund)
For me,it’s not going back but it give a way buy “Mitsubishi” car with low price. Next model names P3.
other manufacturer doing the same thing.. they have their own /homeground model.. adan also rebadge/collaboration model for niche production
like at Daihatsu.. they have their own model MIRA.. they also do rebadge for luminas/boon
Subaru has their own model Impreza.. they oso rebadge small car from passo.. so wha’s wrong with that??
anyway if u r not happy with this rebadge model… you can go with saga, persona, exora current homeground models.. or maybe next new model persona R and EMAS…
pls open ur mind dude
Yah… agreed with Bro peYno… Open you mind dude…….
Bro penYno is a Mitsubishi WANABE Fans and Proton Supporter…..
hope they get the pricing right.
“harganya akan kekal kompetiif”
ya,you are right mr. proton with the imported car price and current tier interest rates is sky rocketing…
yup risky mah, loan to locals that drive the car for 3 months then cannot pay instalments kena tarik lo! that is why the rest of us all kena high HP rates. all in all, total cost of buying the car bleum kira servicing, is it really competitive.
kompetitif when imported cars are STILL highly taxed
Definitely not 1.6.. i talk wth proton people, he said its 1.8 and 2.0…just wait and see..i cant wait for this…would probably switch my neo cps to this…then convert engine to evo 9…wuhuuu!!
I like neo cps, how much?can nego?
Wah, banyak duit
y convert backward suppose evo10 rite?..do u really mean that switch car..how many yrs remaining to pay ur loan..think twice bro…do like i do..currently salary rm3000 need to find diff job at least rm4000..so the extra can cover this mitsu….hehe
Evo9 engine is good… Many perdana also still conver to evo3 engine… If evo10 engine, i think the price is a bit higher than evo 9…. still evo9 engine is better than current Lancer gt engine…
Firstly, kesian to those lancer owner and if proton using back lancer engine then it will be very demanding, just depends on what accessories proton will provide for this car.
Secondly, there will be more wajalution on the road :(
but don’t think it will same like the real evolution…….
You are all stupid for blaming Proton. Why dont you think properly, Mitsubishi is the one who should be blamed for giving the permission for Proton to rebadge thier current Lancer model. Don’t talk cock la if you don’t know. This is all for the benefit of their business. Both of them gain something. All of you talk like a pro,but the truth is, there is something wrong with yourself & it is HATRED & un-satisfy with your gov, am I right?
wrong. those are the voices from the current Lancer GT owners shaking their head in disgust knowing their car’s residue value is going down the drain.. what more with their 9-year loan……
Proton is a headache to the current government, it has no choice but to protect it, I feel sorry for the government and those boys at MITI.
Mitsubishi is just doing business. Imagine someone knock on your door, tell you that he (Proton) will pay you $$$ on loyalty for your car… would you say NO???
Beside that, how many Mit Lancer is sold in Malaysia? The loyalty gain by Mit maybe more than the profit earn by Mit on its Lancer sold in Malaysia !!
Superman
I 100% agreed what u comment. This is call business. The Mit market cant going far more in bolehland, my op. So, how to maximize the production/Tech R&D cost invested?
Leave it or sale it.
Great decision make by Mit
They just want a E class that cost them RM 100k.
Sad day for Proton.
I think the govt really screwed up by allowing badge engineered Malaysian “Manufacturers”.
Perodua, Naza Kia, Naza Bestari are all a joke and an insult to the idea of a national car company. They were all created to exploit the loophole of National Car status tax reliefs and all had no intention of becoming genuine manufacturers with original design. This mistake has meant that all the years of high taxes to protect Proton were all for nought as it undermined Protons ability to grow and be independent when we could buy badge engineered Daihatsu, Toyota, Kia and Puegeots at National Car prices.
Sigh…..the dream is over for a true Malaysian independent manufacturer…..undermined by myopic policy makers……